Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TRF

From: Chuck <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 17:47:36 -0500

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Apparently, "they" have taken down the referenced page.  The link no longer
works.
Chuck White

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:39 AM Jack McGahey <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Understood. I wouldn=E2=80=99t be just unhappy, I=E2=80=99d be really ang=
ry - mostly at
> myself for making an unsecured personal loan to a man who poured way too
> much money into his dream pub/restaurant in Indiana, PA. I wouldn=E2=80=
=99t blame
> or take it out on the people trying to earn a living at TRF - none of who=
m
> had anything to do with the unsecured personal loans to a dead man who
> didn=E2=80=99t do what he said he would do.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 7, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Alan Atkinson <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF They never scrubbed the text so it=E2=80=99s here:
> http://trf.zeni.net/weeklongb/5.php?s_wt=3D1920&s_ht=3D1200
>
> While it is clearly an unsecured loan, there=E2=80=99s specific verbiage =
in the
> offer to say there is a mechanism to ensure that a participant will be
> repaid in the event of his death.
> He is dead. It was untimely.
> I understand that the insurance was insufficient so the note holders
> weren=E2=80=99t made whole at that time.
> I=E2=80=99d be quite unhappy if I were one of them too.
>
>
>
> On Jan 7, 2021, at 7:07 AM, dave <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> We were told the loans were secured by a life insurance policy.  That was
> a lie
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Jack McGahey <[email-masked]>
> Date: 1/6/21 10:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: dave <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked], [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TRF
>
> So the current employees and TRF owner are screwing people who knowingly
> made unsecured personal loans to Charles Runyon?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 6, 2021, at 10:56 PM, dave <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Just keep in mind that they are totally screwing all the investors who
> helped keep the business afloat all these years
>
>
> *From:* 6pack <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *
> [email-masked]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:04 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [6pack] TRF
>
>
> I just put an order in with The Roadster Factory.  I had read this mornin=
g
> that the business, the cars, the farm, the house and the restaurant had a=
ll
> been sold to settle outstanding debts.  It turns out that Albert Runyan i=
s
> the new owner and (according to the people I spoke to) it is business as
> normal.
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Apparently, &quot;they&quot; have taken down the refe=
renced page.=C2=A0 The link no longer works.</div><div>Chuck White<br></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:39 AM Jack McGahey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:McGaheyR=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Understood. I wouldn=E2=80=99=
t be just unhappy, I=E2=80=99d be really angry - mostly at myself for makin=
g an unsecured personal loan to a man who poured way too much money into hi=
s dream pub/restaurant in Indiana, PA. I wouldn=E2=80=99t blame or take it =
out on the people trying to earn a living at TRF - none of whom had anythin=
g to do with the unsecured personal loans to a dead man who didn=E2=80=99t =
do what he said he would do.<div><div><div><div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">S=
ent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan=
 7, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Alan Atkinson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alanatkinson@hotm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><=
/blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
They never scrubbed the text so it=E2=80=99s here:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://t=
rf.zeni.net/weeklongb/5.php?s_wt=3D1920&amp;s_ht=3D1200" target=3D"_blank">=
http://trf.zeni.net/weeklongb/5.php?s_wt=3D1920&amp;s_ht=3D1200</a><div><br=
></div><div>While it is clearly an unsecured loan, there=E2=80=99s specific=
 verbiage in the offer to say there is a mechanism to ensure that a partici=
pant will be repaid in the event of his death.=C2=A0</div><div>He is dead. =
It was untimely.=C2=A0</div><div>I understand that the insurance was insuff=
icient so the note holders weren=E2=80=99t made whole at that time.=C2=A0</=
div><div>I=E2=80=99d be quite unhappy if I were one of them too.=C2=A0</div=
><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jan 7, =
2021, at 7:07 AM, dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fon=
t-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text=
-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;fl=
oat:none;display:inline">We were told the loans were secured by a life insu=
rance policy.=C2=A0 That was a lie</span><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetic=
a;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:nor=
mal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:n=
one;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:nor=
mal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-=
indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-dec=
oration:none" align=3D"left"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><=
div>From: Jack McGahey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span>=C2=A0</span></div><div>Date: 1/6/21 =
10:02 PM (GMT-06:00)<span>=C2=A0</span></div><div>To: dave &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span>=C2=
=A0</span></div><div>Cc:<span>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>,<span>=C2=A0</span=
><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.net</a></div><div>Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TRF<span>=C2=A0</span></div><d=
iv><br></div></div><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font=
-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:no=
rmal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norma=
l;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">So the c=
urrent employees and TRF owner are screwing people who knowingly made unsec=
ured personal loans to Charles Runyon?</span><br style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:=
normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transfor=
m:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-cap=
s:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decora=
tion:none"><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;f=
ont-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing=
:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:no=
rmal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;fo=
nt-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:=
start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;text-decoration:none"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 6, 2021, at 1=
0:56 PM, dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">dav=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-=
variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:sta=
rt;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;=
text-decoration:none"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div><div style=3D"margin:0=
in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Just keep in mind that th=
ey are totally screwing all the investors who helped keep the business aflo=
at all these years</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p><div><div style=3D"border-=
style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225=
);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt;<span>=C2=A0</span><b>On Behalf Of<span>=C2=A0</span></b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">auprichard@upricha=
rd.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:0=
4 PM<br><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>;<span>=C2=A0</span><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a><br><b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>[6pack] TRF</div></div></div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,san=
s-serif">=C2=A0</p><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Cali=
bri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,seri=
f">I just put an order in with The Roadster Factory.=C2=A0 I had read this =
morning that the business, the cars, the farm, the house and the restaurant=
 had all been sold to settle outstanding debts.=C2=A0 It turns out that Alb=
ert Runyan is the new owner and (according to the people I spoke to) it is =
business as normal.</span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;=
font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
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;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Andrew Uprichard</span></div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Jackson, Michigan</span>=
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