From curved-dash-olds-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 8 00:00:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1440259F646; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 00:00:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: curved-dash-olds@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yk0-f179.google.com (mail-yk0-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7EE258C0BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:31:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ykoo205 with SMTP id o205so79564344yko.0 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:32:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V8E29SBGbQzcr9LC/YROppZwegRJ3wJqWiogf8t/xlo=; b=SKlOR0brGxiqaT6lVk86fp7txsjVZTqDNizvD6VBnyUAkg2jg2HdvQTcX8btA4mw4q aoi39piQdxIAy65147dmsLNYLn0uD61ZQ2SyoJkFcDycQbIK2y6sXsYj8H4swPgx7QAW 03MAmEAP1Wuf+4D6GRJRHySncsgYBcth4y90x2pJFtK0sJ7Gx04pPbHioxgwobwHx98q 95eZ3AMmstZL/KTA0v0+Idr85ynOZ9nufXw8Y7reA+e6ztkqTRbFTso184AUldhBaiOY HtfTNmNRlBizgR3lSkBPAxJlYFZju+7SGaLo+2HMk+xddfYan+BLOdpSrCN3joGeYAcx hn2A== u82mr5606590ywb.35.1438918345956; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.207.196 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 23:32:25 -0400 From: Roger Garnett To: CDO List , "cdoclub@comcast.net" Subject: [CDO] Hit & miss revisited 1900 - 1905" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: curved-dash-olds-bounces@autox.team.net I've been tweaking a bit, and getting the car running better, and did extra flushing of the cooling system. Over the past couple of weeks we've been taking the CDO out for 5-10 mile evening runs around the neighborhood, and it's been running quite well, with just a bit of bubbling after a long run. Things seemed good! Today I drove the car about 15 miles to a backyard gathering with a 2-3 dozen cars ranging from Bentley and Ferrari, MG & Healey, Datsun & Miata, and Packard, Overland and the CDO. Ran great until the last 1-2 miles (uphill), when it began missing like it did last summer, and earlier this year. Put in a fresh fuel filter, cleaned the commutator, and fettled a bit, and got it running a tad better, but not great. Headed towards home, down about 3 miles of hill - made good time, but still not right - playing hit and miss engine the whole time. Pulled off at the bottom of the hill and decided to try adjust the commutator a tad. Found the pins on my commutator block were out of place- removed the commutator spring and pushed the pins back in place. (but they're loose, need to fix that) Pulled out my Leatherman, and tried to bend the spring downwards a hair. SNAP. It broke off at the center of the contact point - weak spot due to wear. Oh, crap. Well, being at the *center* of the contact area, It could still hit the lobe right? I filed the end smooth, and tried a couple adjustments. First try way too tight, it fired and ran backwards while cranking (too advanced) . Got it right the next time. VERY right. The car started right up and ran strong. All the way home. It's currently running the best it has since I got it running! OK, that's great - but it's not fixed yet. I need to make or find new commutator springs. I've looked at the drawing (RG-3-1112) in the Ziegler book. Yea, I can do that, once I find the right spring steel stock. A jig would be useful. Does anyone have a jig, or a have springs for sale? -- Roger Garnett rwgarnett@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Curved-dash-olds mailing list Curved-dash-olds@autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/curved-dash-olds From curved-dash-olds-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 8 04:39:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4A72584A42; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 04:39:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: curved-dash-olds@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2269025983B5 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 04:10:15 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=UOSCzhGyv+/RFhzyYU6LPAZZOOL+197GwxGZm93ozkmnU/2SXOk009REgLqMJWDw; h=Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.98.100.215] (helo=[10.0.1.93]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ZO14h-0007g7-MU; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 06:09:59 -0400 From: Dan Suskin Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:09:59 -0400 References: To: Roger Garnett Cc: CDO List , "cdoclub@comcast.net" Subject: Re: [CDO] Hit & miss revisited 1900 - 1905" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: curved-dash-olds-bounces@autox.team.net I think the springs are available from Gary Danni Suskin > On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:32 PM, Roger Garnett wrote: > > I've been tweaking a bit, and getting the car running better, and did extra > flushing of the cooling system. Over the past couple of weeks we've been > taking the CDO out for 5-10 mile evening runs around the neighborhood, and > it's been running quite well, with just a bit of bubbling after a long run. > Things seemed good! > > Today I drove the car about 15 miles to a backyard gathering with a 2-3 > dozen cars ranging from Bentley and Ferrari, MG & Healey, Datsun & Miata, > and Packard, Overland and the CDO. Ran great until the last 1-2 miles > (uphill), when it began missing like it did last summer, and earlier this > year. Put in a fresh fuel filter, cleaned the commutator, and fettled a > bit, and got it running a tad better, but not great. > > Headed towards home, down about 3 miles of hill - made good time, but still > not right - playing hit and miss engine the whole time. Pulled off at the > bottom of the hill and decided to try adjust the commutator a tad. Found > the pins on my commutator block were out of place- removed the commutator > spring and pushed the pins back in place. (but they're loose, need to fix > that) Pulled out my Leatherman, and tried to bend the spring downwards a > hair. SNAP. It broke off at the center of the contact point - weak spot > due to wear. Oh, crap. > > Well, being at the *center* of the contact area, It could still hit the > lobe right? I filed the end smooth, and tried a couple adjustments. First > try way too tight, it fired and ran backwards while cranking (too advanced) > . Got it right the next time. VERY right. The car started right up and ran > strong. All the way home. It's currently running the best it has since I > got it running! > > OK, that's great - but it's not fixed yet. I need to make or find new > commutator springs. I've looked at the drawing (RG-3-1112) in the Ziegler > book. Yea, I can do that, once I find the right spring steel stock. A jig > would be useful. Does anyone have a jig, or a have springs for sale? > > > -- > Roger Garnett > rwgarnett@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Curved-dash-olds mailing list > Curved-dash-olds@autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/curved-dash-olds _______________________________________________ Curved-dash-olds mailing list Curved-dash-olds@autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/curved-dash-olds