From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 04:12:06 2008 From: "steb" To: "'Bill Cole'" , "'Matthew A. Smith'" Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 05:10:05 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo. My 68 2000 had the 160 MPH speedo, solex and header installed at the dealer. I've since sold that car but removed all of the 2000 parts for installation on my 70 1600 body. So, I'll have a SPL running around as a SRL. The 160 speedo will look nice once installed but will never have the satisfaction of getting pegged out. Steve Harvey P.S. We may hit 42F this Sunday! Heatwave! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of Bill Cole Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:09 PM To: Matthew A. Smith Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo. As for the late model cars, I believe the 68 2000 came with a 160MPH speedometer, 69 and 70 2000's had the 140 speedometer. Bill You are subscribed as stebharvey@ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 05:45:48 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 04:45:23 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH Speedo How amzing is it that a cheap japanese car had the audacity of presentiing itself as the potential of being a 160 mph car in the first place ? We own some amazing little cars - even a 1600 with a 120 mph speedo (only 6K rpm)- could MG/Triumph even come close ? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 06:54:18 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: granvillecomputing@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 08:53:24 EST Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH Speedo In a message dated 3/1/2008 4:45:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, granvillecomputing@hotmail.com writes: How amzing is it that a cheap japanese car had the audacity of presentiing itself as the potential of being a 160 mph car in the first place ? We own some amazing little cars - even a 1600 with a 120 mph speedo (only 6K rpm)- could MG/Triumph even come close ? One of the basics if instrumentation is to never use a gauge that can be pegged by what you are measuring. They are most accurate in the center part of the range. My stock 1600 will do all but a hand full of the 120 speedo. For a car that will do in excess of 120 as the 2000 will the 140 or 160 speedo is a good choice. keith **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 07:12:05 2008 From: "Joe Russo" To: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:08:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH Speedo I drove a 72 Triumph GT6 for ten years (2 litre in-line 6, twin Stromberg 150s, same as the TR250) and the answer from my experience is "Yes, not even close". Although the GT6 was a great handling touring car, it didn't move like my little "Asian girls". And the GT6 could never go topless. Both of my 1970 roadsters have the 140 MPH speedo - one is a SRL (SU) and one is a SPL with a U20/5 speed (SU) that I didn't install. I assume the PO changed the speedo as part of the upgrade. I'm not sure if this was due to drive gear differences or more along the lines of what Keith Williams contributed to this "thread". I have the original 120 mph speedo, R16 and 4 spd tranny as spares. Joe -----Original Message----- To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH Speedo We own some amazing little cars - even a 1600 with a 120 mph speedo (only 6K rpm)- could MG/Triumph even come close ? ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 07:43:02 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'peter harrison'" , Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:42:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) According to my big book of sports cars, top speeds are; Datsun 2000 127 Datsun 1500 95 The 1600 didn't list a top speed? The Brits; MGA 100 MGA Twin cam 113 MGB 103 MGC 120 TR3 102 TR4 109 TR5 (TR250) 120 (with optional overdrive) TR6 109 TR7 110 TR8 135 Spitfire 100 GT6 112 Austin Healey 3000 121 (with optional overdrive) The odd; SAAB Sonett II (V4) 100 Volvo 1800ES 115 Alfa 1750 Spider 115 And just for laughs; Cobra 289 138 Cobra 427 165 '67 Corvette 150 Ferrar1 365 GTS 150 Just tried to pick a few from the same years as the roadster was produced. Paul -----Original Message----- could MG/Triumph even come close ? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 08:37:49 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:33:29 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) great research, paul. thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'peter harrison'" ; Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) > According to my big book of sports cars, top speeds are; > > Datsun 2000 127 > Datsun 1500 95 > The 1600 didn't list a top speed? > > The Brits; > MGA 100 > MGA Twin cam 113 > MGB 103 > MGC 120 > TR3 102 > TR4 109 > TR5 (TR250) 120 (with optional overdrive) > TR6 109 > TR7 110 > TR8 135 > Spitfire 100 > GT6 112 > Austin Healey 3000 121 (with optional overdrive) > > The odd; > SAAB Sonett II (V4) 100 > Volvo 1800ES 115 > Alfa 1750 Spider 115 > > And just for laughs; > Cobra 289 138 > Cobra 427 165 > '67 Corvette 150 > Ferrar1 365 GTS 150 > > Just tried to pick a few from the same years as the roadster was > produced. > > Paul ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 08:51:15 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'peter harrison'" Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:51:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) Hi Paul! I figure the "stock" numbers are just a matter of the equation of "stock" gearing, "manufacturer reported" HP, and weight. I can't believe they took 5 of these cars out to Bonneville and "drove it till it came apart"! 1 MPH below the average would be its "top speed"! HAHAHAHA! By the late 60's, all American car makers were "reporting" much lower HP's for their engines than were actual, for insurance purposes. 335 HP out of a 428 CJ? Gimee an F'n break! One would think that if you geared the rear end higher, you'd get a little higher top speed. Also, if you started adding things like a header and aftermarket air cleaners for better flow, hotter spark with better plugs, wires, and a 12V EI (i.e. a Boone), better tires and wheels. Where is "top speed now? I saw a Road & Track article from the era that had the 0-60 time for a SRL-311 MUCH, MUCH lower than Loreli is capable of. As I recall, it was somewhere quite a bit over 6.0 or 7.0. I don't know what "light foot" they had driving that day, but... WHAT A PUSSY! LMAO! I have no problem keeping even with a Corvette C5 off the line. A V8 Lotus ate me alive one time, but the close ratio gearing caused him to be slower to 80. He killed me at the line, but I caught him. Anyone who's coming to Mitty know ANYTHING about Solexes? Particularly how to tune them? Contact me individually for what parts/tools I may need to bring and what your "beer" price is! LOL! Headin' out to give Loreli a bath and a rub down, then OFF TO THE HILLS! Sunny and hi 50's today; Sunny and mid 60's tomorrow! Luvin U! Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:43 AM To: 'peter harrison'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) According to my big book of sports cars, top speeds are; Datsun 2000 127 Datsun 1500 95 The 1600 didn't list a top speed? The Brits; MGA 100 MGA Twin cam 113 MGB 103 MGC 120 TR3 102 TR4 109 TR5 (TR250) 120 (with optional overdrive) TR6 109 TR7 110 TR8 135 Spitfire 100 GT6 112 Austin Healey 3000 121 (with optional overdrive) The odd; SAAB Sonett II (V4) 100 Volvo 1800ES 115 Alfa 1750 Spider 115 And just for laughs; Cobra 289 138 Cobra 427 165 '67 Corvette 150 Ferrar1 365 GTS 150 Just tried to pick a few from the same years as the roadster was produced. Paul -----Original Message----- could MG/Triumph even come close ? You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 08:51:48 2008 From: andycost@embarqmail.com To: datsun-roadsters Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:51:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) I'm pretty sure my roadster will do 160 but I don't have a speedo at all. I suppose I could hook the speed sensor from the tranny into my datalogger. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "peter harrison" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2008 8:42:32 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago Subject: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) According to my big book of sports cars, top speeds are; Datsun 2000 127 Datsun 1500 95 The 1600 didn't list a top speed? The Brits; MGA 100 MGA Twin cam 113 MGB 103 MGC 120 TR3 102 TR4 109 TR5 (TR250) 120 (with optional overdrive) TR6 109 TR7 110 TR8 135 Spitfire 100 GT6 112 Austin Healey 3000 121 (with optional overdrive) The odd; SAAB Sonett II (V4) 100 Volvo 1800ES 115 Alfa 1750 Spider 115 And just for laughs; Cobra 289 138 Cobra 427 165 '67 Corvette 150 Ferrar1 365 GTS 150 Just tried to pick a few from the same years as the roadster was produced. Paul ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 09:13:15 2008 From: "Mike H." To: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:14:09 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! The subject says it all! Well not quite............... Zoweeee! Sheeeeeeeeeeeee........tttt!!!!!! 2375 miles on the new stroker, hope it liked it 102 mph. She was screamin', but I think it was from pleasure not pain! Oh wait! maybe that was me! Can anyone tell I'm havin' a good time? 65 degrees in KC today! Later, got go for another Zoomie! Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 10:33:01 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:32:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Top speed, the other big book! My other big book, Classic Cars of the World by Quentin Willson, lists the 1600 with a top speed of 169. But that km/h which works out to be about 105 mph. And while it comments that the Datsun does share many stylings with the MGB, it does note that the Datsun came first! Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 11:09:58 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Mike H." , "Dave Stoll" Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:10:11 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo. Mike, I haven't seen an answer to your original question, but then sometimes my messages from the list arrive several days after they were authored. Even when it's a "Reply All" like this one. Unfortunately, no. I believe the speedo and tach in the low-windshield cars are about an inch in diameter larger than the high-windshield cars. We'll see if anyone on the list has contrary information. Gary Ault '66 1600 w/U20 (SU) '67 2000 Solex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike H." To: "Dave Stoll" ; "Matthew A. Smith" ; Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo. > While we're on the subject of tachs and speedos, will the late ('68 on) > tachs and speedos fit the holes of the earlier ('66 & '67) dashes? I know > the mounting is different, just want to know if they're the same diameter > fitment. > > Mike Hudson '67n Stroker / 5-s[eed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Stoll" > To: "Matthew A. Smith" ; > > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo. > > >> and to follow up, is the 160 interchangable with the 140 and still be >> accurate? >> or do you need to change some gearing at the transmission? >> daveS >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Matthew A. Smith" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:35 PM >> Subject: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo. >> >> >> > While this may be a silly question, where did the 160 MPH speedos come >> > from? >> > ________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > >> > You are subscribed as dgstoll@verizon.net >> > >> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> > >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as twobeaners@earthlink.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 11:13:55 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Mike H." , Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:14:09 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! Mike, Is the 102 mph based on your speedo, or GPS? I hate to tell you this, but, at one time, my speedo was so far off it was reading 100 when I was doing only 75. I have had three different speedos in my '66, and I have given up trying to get them calibrated. I drive by the tach: 4000 rpm in 4th, 78 mph. That's with a 4-speed and the correct pinion. My wife gave me a GPS for Christmas, and I plan to "calibrate" things with that device when the weather improves. I'd be interested in hearing other's experiences with stock Nissan speedos for early (or late) cars. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike H." To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > The subject says it all! > > Well not quite............... Zoweeee! Sheeeeeeeeeeeee........tttt!!!!!! > 2375 > miles on the new stroker, hope it liked it 102 mph. She was screamin', but > I > think it was from pleasure not pain! Oh wait! maybe that was me! > > Can anyone tell I'm havin' a good time? 65 degrees in KC today! > > Later, got go for another Zoomie! > > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 11:20:14 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:20:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo. That's correct. The early speedo and tach are about 4 3/4" diameter. The late instrument clusters are about 4". Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:10 AM To: Mike H.; Dave Stoll; Matthew A. Smith; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo. Mike, I haven't seen an answer to your original question, but then sometimes my messages from the list arrive several days after they were authored. Even when it's a "Reply All" like this one. Unfortunately, no. I believe the speedo and tach in the low-windshield cars are about an inch in diameter larger than the high-windshield cars. We'll see if anyone on the list has contrary information. Gary Ault '66 1600 w/U20 (SU) '67 2000 Solex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike H." To: "Dave Stoll" ; "Matthew A. Smith" ; Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160 MPH speedo. > While we're on the subject of tachs and speedos, will the late ('68 on) > tachs and speedos fit the holes of the earlier ('66 & '67) dashes? I know > the mounting is different, just want to know if they're the same diameter > fitment. > > Mike Hudson '67n Stroker / 5-s[eed ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 11:20:38 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:27:19 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) I took my first 2L, a 68 purchased new, and other than tires 100% stock, out to see how fast it would go shortly after I purchased the car. At about 121 mph it started doing the St. Vitas dance on I84 because of the air flow under the car. Now I know why they make air dams, and not to try that again without one. Tom 69 2000 (my third), Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 3/1/2008 6:42:32 AM, Paul (9laser3@bright.net) wrote: > According to my big book of sports cars, top speeds are; > > Datsun 2000 127 > Datsun 1500 95 > The 1600 > didn't list a top speed? > > The Brits; > MGA 100 > MGA Twin cam 113 > MGB 103 > MGC 120 > TR3 102 > TR4 109 > TR5 (TR250) 120 (with optional overdrive) > TR6 109 > TR7 110 > TR8 135 > Spitfire 100 > GT6 112 > Austin Healey 3000 121 (with optional overdrive) > > The odd; > SAAB Sonett II (V4) 100 > Volvo 1800ES 115 > Alfa 1750 Spider 115 > > And just for laughs; > Cobra 289 138 > Cobra 427 165 > '67 > Corvette 150 > Ferrar1 365 GTS 150 > > Just tried to pick a few from the same years as the roadster was produced. > > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > > could MG/Triumph even come close ? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 11:48:55 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:48:44 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Speed, gearing and horsepower Changing the gearing won't necessarily give you a higher top speed. To get absolute maximum speed, you need to gear it so that peak HP occurs at that point where wind resistance + rolling resistance exactly equals peak HP. A lot of cars now are geared WAY beyond that in top gear. As an extreme example, My 2002 Maxima 6-speed turns 32 mph/1000 rpm in 6th. With a 6500 rpm redline, this would be 208 mph! I don't think I'm going to get there with 255 hp. If I remember right, 5th is 25 mph/1000 rpm, which would be "only" 162 mph. So my guess is that I'd probably achieve the real top speed in 4th gear. Now, another thing to keep in mind is that the power you have to accelerate is the difference between the power the engine is putting out at a given rpm and the total resistance at that speed. If you do gear the car for absolute maximum speed, you won't have as much power available for acceleration (think about the shape of the curves for HP and drag). So it's definitely a tradeoff. I think the original roadster tires were about 24" diameter. Using that and the 3.70 gearing of the 2000, the 6000 rpm power peak occurs at 139.5 mph. That's probably past the drag curve. It might get up over 120 but would have a hard time accelerating from there. 5500 rpm would get you about 124.5 mph. However, 4th gear at 6500 would be 125.4 mph, which is probably achievable (especially if you leave the top up - convertibles have bad drag coefficients). A couple of final points to keep in mind: - Aerodynamic resistance increases as the SQUARE of the speed. So there is four times as much aero drag at 120 as at 60. - The tires constitute a part of the overall gearing, too. Change the diameter, you've changed the gearing. It's all about the overall relationship between engine rpm and vehicle speed. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith One would think that if you geared the rear end higher, you'd get a little higher top speed. Also, if you started adding things like a header and aftermarket air cleaners for better flow, hotter spark with better plugs, wires, and a 12V EI (i.e. a Boone), better tires and wheels. Where is "top speed now? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 11:59:42 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:59:30 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) Skinny, hard-compound 1967 tires and no limited-slip don't make for great launches. Road & Track tested a 1967 2000 and said, "Wheelspin becomes significant with the standard 2000's torque and, with tires that put more rubber on the road than the standard 5.60-14s, acceleration times could be improved considerably." Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:51 AM To: 'Paul'; 'peter harrison'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) I saw a Road & Track article from the era that had the 0-60 time for a SRL-311 MUCH, MUCH lower than Loreli is capable of. As I recall, it was somewhere quite a bit over 6.0 or 7.0. I don't know what "light foot" they had driving that day, but... WHAT A PUSSY! LMAO! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 13:08:33 2008 From: Larry Dziuba To: Fred Davidson , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:08:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 160mph Speedometers I am from western Canada and my 68 2000 solex also has the 160mph speedo. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Davidson" To: Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:09 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 160mph Speedometers > Hi Folks: > > > > Most, if not all 1968 2000 roadsters in Canada came with 160 speedos, > solexes, B cam, aluminum oil pan. The 160 speedos have the chrome ring in > the center. The 67 = 2000 of course also had a 160 mph speedo. > > > > Fred > > > > 1969 SRL 311 > > Ontario, Canada > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadster68@shaw.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 13:45:17 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:44:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Top speed (was 160 MPH Speedo) Way back in 1975, I took out my old 69 2000 and raced an Avanti out on a Garden State parkway tool booth. I had SU carbs, a B cam, header exhaust and free flow exhaust I built myself, and I had cleaned up the intake manifold. I had spent a lot of time getting everything "right" and was running Sunoco 260, 101 octane. I beat the Avanti, and we both topped out at the same speed. My speedo, corrected to the somewhat oversized tire OD I had, figured to 135 mph. With the error in the speedo, I guess it was more like 125. But I was ahead by 4 car lengths. It did handle like a leaf in the wind at that point. I sold the car about 2 years later, in fear of my license, I couldn't control the need for speed. I was clocked on radar after beating an Alpha doing 115, and I was decellerating at the time. The cop was a car nut and let me off, believe it or not.... Unfortunately, the buyer's garage burned down a year later.... So long roadster. Jim "Tom @ Datsun2000" wrote: I took my first 2L, a 68 purchased new, and other than tires 100% stock, out to see how fast it would go shortly after I purchased the car. At about 121 mph it started doing the St. Vitas dance on I84 because of the air flow under the car. Now I know why they make air dams, and not to try that again without one. Tom 69 2000 (my third), Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 3/1/2008 6:42:32 AM, Paul (9laser3@bright.net) wrote: > According to my big book of sports cars, top speeds are; > > Datsun 2000 127 > Datsun 1500 95 > The 1600 > didn't list a top speed? > > The Brits; > MGA 100 > MGA Twin cam 113 > MGB 103 > MGC 120 > TR3 102 > TR4 109 > TR5 (TR250) 120 (with optional overdrive) > TR6 109 > TR7 110 > TR8 135 > Spitfire 100 > GT6 112 > Austin Healey 3000 121 (with optional overdrive) > > The odd; > SAAB Sonett II (V4) 100 > Volvo 1800ES 115 > Alfa 1750 Spider 115 > > And just for laughs; > Cobra 289 138 > Cobra 427 165 > '67 > Corvette 150 > Ferrar1 365 GTS 150 > > Just tried to pick a few from the same years as the roadster was produced. > > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > > could MG/Triumph even come close ? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 17:05:39 2008 From: "Mike H." To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" , Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:04:44 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! Absolutely valid point! Not to mention my NOS speedo I bought 15 years ago dances pretty good around that speed. My tach was reading 4500 in 5th, my gear ratio calculator works it out around 98mph and I have a "corrected" speedo pinion for the 3.9 rear end. It felt like well over 75, gauging the other traffic, though there was very little. Anyway, wasn't bragging or anything, the seat of my pants was telling me it was plenty fast enough! I am taking the speedo to the shop next week, the local guy I talked to said he was familiar with the roadster and even knew about the crimped rings on the speedo. He said he had a special machine that can open those king of rims. I let everyone know how that works out. He also said that even on NOS units the lube dries up and causes flaky needles. We'll see. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Mike H." ; Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > Mike, > > Is the 102 mph based on your speedo, or GPS? I hate to tell you this, but, > at one time, my speedo was so far off it was reading 100 when I was doing > only 75. > > I have had three different speedos in my '66, and I have given up trying to > get them calibrated. I drive by the tach: 4000 rpm in 4th, 78 mph. That's > with a 4-speed and the correct pinion. My wife gave me a GPS for Christmas, > and I plan to "calibrate" things with that device when the weather improves. > > I'd be interested in hearing other's experiences with stock Nissan speedos > for early (or late) cars. > > Gary Ault > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike H." > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:14 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > > > > The subject says it all! > > > > Well not quite............... Zoweeee! Sheeeeeeeeeeeee........tttt!!!!!! > > 2375 > > miles on the new stroker, hope it liked it 102 mph. She was screamin', but > > I > > think it was from pleasure not pain! Oh wait! maybe that was me! > > > > Can anyone tell I'm havin' a good time? 65 degrees in KC today! > > > > Later, got go for another Zoomie! > > > > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed > > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 18:39:28 2008 From: dansummers@comcast.net To: Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:39:01 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition switches I have a 69 2000 I got about a year and a half ago. It had been sitting outside in New Mexico for eight years. I have cleaned up the fuel system from tank to carbs including new fuel lines and filter and changed the oil and filter. But the ignition switch seems to be shot. I went to our local wrecking yard and actually found what they call a 69 2000. I have been pulling everything that I think I will need including the Ignition switch. But when I compare the two switches the one in my car has ACC,GARAGE,ON and START and the plastic cover is held on with a screw that goes into the turn signal mechanism from the bottom. The one from the wrecking yard has GARAGE, ACC ON and START and the plastic cover is held on by a crew in the top of the switch. the back of the switches look the same. Can anyone tell me are these inter changeable? Dan SRL311-03490 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 18:51:47 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:52:23 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. I had an electric tach and the factory one hooked up at the same time and they were quite different. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 1 20:23:45 2008 From: "Mike H." To: "Andy Cost" , "Roadster List" Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:23:01 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! You guy's are killin' my thrillin'! LOL! I'm gonna have to go for another drive just put the smile back on my face. I think I'll pull the tach and speedo cables first, though. (smile) Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. I had > an electric tach and the factory one hooked up at the same time and they > were quite different. > > Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 05:28:09 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Andy Cost'" , "'Roadster List'" Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 07:27:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! -----Original Message----- The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. ------------------------------ Best description of the gauges in these great little cars is "idiot lights that wave at you". Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 05:40:13 2008 From: aiken1315@bellsouth.net To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" , "Mike H." Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:39:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! My speedo is a tenth off. 55 is 50, 65 is 59, etc. David -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > > Mike, > > Is the 102 mph based on your speedo, or GPS? I hate to tell you this, but, > at one time, my speedo was so far off it was reading 100 when I was doing > only 75. > > I have had three different speedos in my '66, and I have given up trying to > get them calibrated. I drive by the tach: 4000 rpm in 4th, 78 mph. That's > with a 4-speed and the correct pinion. My wife gave me a GPS for Christmas, > and I plan to "calibrate" things with that device when the weather improves. > > I'd be interested in hearing other's experiences with stock Nissan speedos > for early (or late) cars. > > Gary Ault > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike H." > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:14 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > > > > The subject says it all! > > > > Well not quite............... Zoweeee! Sheeeeeeeeeeeee........tttt!!!!!! > > 2375 > > miles on the new stroker, hope it liked it 102 mph. She was screamin', but > > I > > think it was from pleasure not pain! Oh wait! maybe that was me! > > > > Can anyone tell I'm havin' a good time? 65 degrees in KC today! > > > > Later, got go for another Zoomie! > > > > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aiken1315@bellsouth.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 06:05:53 2008 From: Mike Harper To: aiken1315@bellsouth.net, Gary and Cindy Ault , "Mike Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:01:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! David, remember how badly your tach was off when we picked your car in in SF? The PO said he never drove the car over 45 mph, which we thought was a bit strange, until we saw that according to the tach, he was red-lining at 45 mph!! Funny. We used a GPS for speed and ignored the tach. The ear worked just fine for RPMs, but we were turning about 10K all the way home across the country back to SC :0 Mike SC --- aiken1315@bellsouth.net wrote: > My speedo is a tenth off. 55 is 50, 65 is 59, etc. > > David > > -------------- Original message > ---------------------- > From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > > > > Mike, > > > > Is the 102 mph based on your speedo, or GPS? I > hate to tell you this, but, > > at one time, my speedo was so far off it was > reading 100 when I was doing > > only 75. > > > > I have had three different speedos in my '66, and > I have given up trying to > > get them calibrated. I drive by the tach: 4000 > rpm in 4th, 78 mph. That's > > with a 4-speed and the correct pinion. My wife > gave me a GPS for Christmas, > > and I plan to "calibrate" things with that device > when the weather improves. > > > > I'd be interested in hearing other's experiences > with stock Nissan speedos > > for early (or late) cars. > > > > Gary Ault > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike H." > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:14 AM > > Subject: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first > time! > > > > > > > The subject says it all! > > > > > > Well not quite............... Zoweeee! > Sheeeeeeeeeeeee........tttt!!!!!! > > > 2375 > > > miles on the new stroker, hope it liked it 102 > mph. She was screamin', but > > > I > > > think it was from pleasure not pain! Oh wait! > maybe that was me! > > > > > > Can anyone tell I'm havin' a good time? 65 > degrees in KC today! > > > > > > Later, got go for another Zoomie! > > > > > > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed > > > ________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as aiken1315@bellsouth.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 10:23:46 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'Andy Cost'" Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:22:25 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! Paul, My tachhas never "drifted" like the speedos -- and I can cross-check it with my dwell/tach. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Andy Cost'" ; "'Roadster List'" Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > -----Original Message----- > > The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. > ------------------------------ > > Best description of the gauges in these great little cars is "idiot > lights > that wave at you". > > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 11:25:00 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:24:50 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition switches Dan, The Nissan parts manual isn't very clear on the application of ignition switches, at least not to me. My guess is that if you exchange the switches, steering lock assemblies and the plastic trim, they will interchange. I think you will have to drill out the screws/bolts which hold the steering lock assembly to the column. FYI, Rallye sells a replacement switch and lock assembly which they say will work on all '68 to '70 cars, but wiring harness terminals may require rework. Anybody else out there care to weigh in on this question? Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition switches >I have a 69 2000 I got about a year and a half ago. It had been sitting >outside in New Mexico for eight years. I have cleaned up the fuel system >from tank to carbs including new fuel lines and filter and changed the oil >and filter. But the ignition switch seems to be shot. I went to our local >wrecking yard and actually found what they call a 69 2000. I have been >pulling everything that I think I will need including the Ignition switch. >But when I compare the two switches the one in my car has ACC,GARAGE,ON and >START and the plastic cover is held on with a screw that goes into the turn >signal mechanism from the bottom. The one from the wrecking yard has >GARAGE, ACC ON and START and the plastic cover is held on by a crew in the >top of the switch. the back of the switches look the same. Can anyone tell >me are these inter changeable? > > Dan > SRL311-03490 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 12:53:03 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:51:56 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to For those of you not on 311s.org or that missed it... Pete "hoping to finish wiring and insulating the garage today" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 12:57:16 2008 From: "Chas Willis" To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:00:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition switches I just removed my ignition to release my steering lock. I could not believe how easy it was. I followed advice given in this group and used a roto-zip to cut a slot into the head of the two safety screws and they came right out. Good luck. Chas -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+fairlady=putermail.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+fairlady=putermail.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:31 PM To: dansummers@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition switches Dan, The Nissan parts manual isn't very clear on the application of ignition switches, at least not to me. My guess is that if you exchange the switches, steering lock assemblies and the plastic trim, they will interchange. I think you will have to drill out the screws/bolts which hold the steering lock assembly to the column. FYI, Rallye sells a replacement switch and lock assembly which they say will work on all '68 to '70 cars, but wiring harness terminals may require rework. Anybody else out there care to weigh in on this question? Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition switches >I have a 69 2000 I got about a year and a half ago. It had been sitting >outside in New Mexico for eight years. I have cleaned up the fuel system >from tank to carbs including new fuel lines and filter and changed the oil >and filter. But the ignition switch seems to be shot. I went to our local >wrecking yard and actually found what they call a 69 2000. I have been >pulling everything that I think I will need including the Ignition switch. >But when I compare the two switches the one in my car has ACC,GARAGE,ON and >START and the plastic cover is held on with a screw that goes into the turn >signal mechanism from the bottom. The one from the wrecking yard has >GARAGE, ACC ON and START and the plastic cover is held on by a crew in the >top of the switch. the back of the switches look the same. Can anyone tell >me are these inter changeable? > > Dan > SRL311-03490 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as fairlady@putermail.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 13:37:19 2008 From: jrdmf@aol.com To: 9laser3@bright.net, andycost@embarqmail.com, Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:31:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! You would actually be surprised at how accurate these gauges were when new and how accurate they can become?once they are repaired properly.?The problem starts when?we mix different size wheels and tires or?substitute the wrong cables to drive them. (And from there is gets worse through the?mutlitude of attempted?repairs performed on the kitchen table) Believe it or not, they still use the very same style mechanical tachometer on virtually all small aircraft as are used in our cars and I have seen them last well over 30 years.?Most of our cars are?over 40 years old so it's not?a stretch so say they may need a little attention but if done correctly, you will probably only need it done once. Just my .02c Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> To: 'Andy Cost' ; 'Roadster List' Sent: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 4:27 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! -----Original Message----- The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. ------------------------------ Best description of the gauges in these great little cars is "idiot lights that wave at you". Paul Ohio ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 14:30:29 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: , <9laser3@bright.net>, , Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:30:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! Good excuse to "invest" in some electronic/digital gauges. HAHAHAHA! Come on! Your wife will buy that one! "It's cheaper than all those damn speeding tickets, honey!" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jrdmf@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:32 PM To: 9laser3@bright.net; andycost@embarqmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! You would actually be surprised at how accurate these gauges were when new and how accurate they can become?once they are repaired properly.?The problem starts when?we mix different size wheels and tires or?substitute the wrong cables to drive them. (And from there is gets worse through the?mutlitude of attempted?repairs performed on the kitchen table) Believe it or not, they still use the very same style mechanical tachometer on virtually all small aircraft as are used in our cars and I have seen them last well over 30 years.?Most of our cars are?over 40 years old so it's not?a stretch so say they may need a little attention but if done correctly, you will probably only need it done once. Just my .02c Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> To: 'Andy Cost' ; 'Roadster List' Sent: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 4:27 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! -----Original Message----- The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. ------------------------------ Best description of the gauges in these great little cars is "idiot lights that wave at you". Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 15:45:00 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:47:45 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! So, any comments from those running aftermarket gauges? Alvin (Classic) and MarkS (Auto Meter) come to mind. Ever check 'em for accuracy? Pete "grabbing another soda while waiting for Debbie to get more GFI's and 12ga from Big Orange." -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:30 PM To: jrdmf@aol.com; 9laser3@bright.net; andycost@embarqmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! Good excuse to "invest" in some electronic/digital gauges. HAHAHAHA! Come on! Your wife will buy that one! "It's cheaper than all those damn speeding tickets, honey!" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jrdmf@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:32 PM To: 9laser3@bright.net; andycost@embarqmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! You would actually be surprised at how accurate these gauges were when new and how accurate they can become?once they are repaired properly.?The problem starts when?we mix different size wheels and tires or?substitute the wrong cables to drive them. (And from there is gets worse through the?mutlitude of attempted?repairs performed on the kitchen table) Believe it or not, they still use the very same style mechanical tachometer on virtually all small aircraft as are used in our cars and I have seen them last well over 30 years.?Most of our cars are?over 40 years old so it's not?a stretch so say they may need a little attention but if done correctly, you will probably only need it done once. Just my .02c Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> To: 'Andy Cost' ; 'Roadster List' Sent: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 4:27 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! -----Original Message----- The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. ------------------------------ Best description of the gauges in these great little cars is "idiot lights that wave at you". Paul Ohio Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 16:29:05 2008 From: "Mark Miller" To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:28:48 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 150MPH speedo? To put one more wrinkle into the speedometer gauge: I have a 69 2000 with solexes that was bought new in Japan. It has a 240 KPH speedo: that works out to 150 MPH. Mark Miller Sebastopol, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 16:33:40 2008 From: "Mark Miller" To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:32:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Inside RH door release needed. Hey, does anyone have a spare inside right side door handle for a 69 to spare/ for sale? The pot metal handle had the little hook that pulls the rod break off the other day. It was terrible - I was trapped in the car for hours!, almost as bad as when I got stuck for 2 days on an escalator in the big NY blackout of 1975 8^() ! Thanks, Mark Miller 69 RHD Fairlady 2000 Sebastopol, Ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 16:38:36 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:41:43 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 150MPH speedo? Kewl. Got a pic? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Miller Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 3:29 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 150MPH speedo? To put one more wrinkle into the speedometer gauge: I have a 69 2000 with solexes that was bought new in Japan. It has a 240 KPH speedo: that works out to 150 MPH. Mark Miller Sebastopol, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 16:51:55 2008 From: "Mike H." To: "Pete Peters" , Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:52:54 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to Far Out, Man! Groovy! Mike Hudson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to > For those of you not on 311s.org or that missed it... > > > > Pete "hoping to finish wiring and insulating the garage today" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 16:57:48 2008 From: "Mike H." To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" , "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:58:47 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! That's a good point, too. I had neglected to respond to one comment about this subject, and that was that my tach is on the money, up to 4000 rpms anyway, when checked against a dwell/tach. Mike Hudson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>; "'Andy Cost'" ; "'Roadster List'" Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > Paul, > > My tachhas never "drifted" like the speedos -- and I can cross-check it with > my dwell/tach. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> > To: "'Andy Cost'" ; "'Roadster List'" > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. > > ------------------------------ > > > > Best description of the gauges in these great little cars is "idiot > > lights > > that wave at you". > > > > Paul > > Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 17:46:47 2008 From: RHCsports@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:47:28 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Which Cam should I use, 1600 stroker? Hi All, I am stroking my R16, using a 2L crank (unmodified nose except the keyways), 2L roads and pistons. I have in my possession 5 camshafts, and am wondering which one you racers/runners think might be the best or even what they are. The markings on them are: 1. (block lettering) Iskederian DS 99 OCNS W 2. (hand scribed) 283 N 6276cc Iskederian OCUS 09 DR-99 5651 3. (hand scribed) W88M 1715 cc Iskederian OWS 09 Z.M. 66+10 5651 4. (block) ERSON HIFLOW 2m 199 10 87G 5. 33 (that's it, dimensions looks like the isky's.) I already have a driver, so I am trying to make this car my "RUN" car. It will scoot!! Also, once I have decided on a cam for my engine, I may be willing to let the other cams go to members of the list if you are interested. Yes, these are the cams that just sold on ebay last week. They were left over from a full race 1600. Thanks All, Ron Eastman Whittier, Ca. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 21:09:13 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:08:59 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Bumper Overriders I have three bumper overriders available for the cost of shipping. These were given to me by Peter Harrison, and I subsequently bought two rechromed overriders. (That was the plan for these.) Since I no longer need them, I am happy to pass them on. If interested, drop me a note off-list at aultgc@att.net. I can send a photo off-list, if you wish. Gary Ault ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 21:48:32 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:47:59 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! I have organized almost all of my roadster pictures into one Webshots address here: http://community.webshots.com/user/alving044 There are 18 albums sorted by content. For example if you wanted to see roadster dashboards then find the "Interior-Dash/Gauges" album. I will continue to add pictures to the albums but please feel free to contribute to any of them. -The "roadsters in print" album is not finished. If your Datsun was featured in literature please send me a scan so I can add it. -Any frame-off/restoration photos would be appreciated too! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 22:00:32 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Alvin Gogineni" , Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:00:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! MOARPA - The Mother Of All Roadster Photo Albums! Way cool, Alvin. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Alvin Gogineni Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:48 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! I have organized almost all of my roadster pictures into one Webshots address here: http://community.webshots.com/user/alving044 There are 18 albums sorted by content. For example if you wanted to see roadster dashboards then find the "Interior-Dash/Gauges" album. I will continue to add pictures to the albums but please feel free to contribute to any of them. -The "roadsters in print" album is not finished. If your Datsun was featured in literature please send me a scan so I can add it. -Any frame-off/restoration photos would be appreciated too! Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 2 22:01:38 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: "'Gordon Glasgow'" , "'Alvin Gogineni'" Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:01:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! 481 pictures with more on the way! Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Glasgow [mailto:gsglasgow@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:00 PM To: Alvin Gogineni; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! MOARPA - The Mother Of All Roadster Photo Albums! Way cool, Alvin. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Alvin Gogineni Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:48 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! I have organized almost all of my roadster pictures into one Webshots address here: http://community.webshots.com/user/alving044 There are 18 albums sorted by content. For example if you wanted to see roadster dashboards then find the "Interior-Dash/Gauges" album. I will continue to add pictures to the albums but please feel free to contribute to any of them. -The "roadsters in print" album is not finished. If your Datsun was featured in literature please send me a scan so I can add it. -Any frame-off/restoration photos would be appreciated too! Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 10:09:13 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: jrdmf@aol.com, 9laser3@bright.net, andycost@embarqmail.com, Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:08:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! You talk like you're some kind of guage "expert".? Where do you "get off" talkin' like that. Just my two cents. Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: jrdmf@aol.com To: 9laser3@bright.net; andycost@embarqmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:31 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! You would actually be surprised at how accurate these gauges were when new and how accurate they can become?once they are repaired properly.?The problem starts when?we mix different size wheels and tires or?substitute the wrong cables to drive them. (And from there is gets worse through the?mutlitude of attempted?repairs performed on the kitchen table) Believe it or not, they still use the very same style mechanical tachometer on virtually all small aircraft as are used in our cars and I have seen them last well over 30 years.?Most of our cars are?over 40 years old so it's not?a stretch so say they may need a little attention but if done correctly, you will probably only need it done once. Just my .02c Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> To: 'Andy Cost' ; 'Roadster List' Sent: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 4:27 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! -----Original Message----- The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. ------------------------------ Best description of the gauges in these great little cars is "idiot lights that wave at you". Paul Ohio ________________________________________ You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 10:13:32 2008 From: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports To: tminerpcav@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:13:15 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! he is gauge expert. Does it for a living.... Ross sports imports On 3-Mar-08, at 9:08 AM, tminerpcav@aol.com wrote: > You talk like you're some kind of guage "expert".? Where do you > "get off" talkin' like that. > > > > Just my two cents. > > > > Tim Miner > > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: jrdmf@aol.com > To: 9laser3@bright.net; andycost@embarqmail.com; datsun- > roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:31 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > > > > > You would actually be surprised at how accurate these gauges were > when new and > how accurate they can become?once they are repaired properly.?The > problem starts > when?we mix different size wheels and tires or?substitute the wrong > cables to > drive them. (And from there is gets worse through the?mutlitude of > attempted?repairs performed on the kitchen table) Believe it or > not, they still > use the very same style mechanical tachometer on virtually all > small aircraft as > are used in our cars and I have seen them last well over 30 years.? > Most of our > cars are?over 40 years old so it's not?a stretch so say they may > need a little > attention but if done correctly, you will probably only need it > done once. > > Just my .02c > > Jon Frampton > Huntington Beach Ca > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> > To: 'Andy Cost' ; 'Roadster List' roadsters@autox.team.net> > Sent: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 4:27 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > The factory tach is at least as inaccurate as the speedo if not more. > ------------------------------ > > Best description of the gauges in these great little cars is > "idiot lights > that wave at you". > > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ > You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as info@sportsimports.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 12:16:14 2008 From: "Charles Breault" To: "Pete Peters" , Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:16:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to Always loved that song Charlie B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to > For those of you not on 311s.org or that missed it... > > > > Pete "hoping to finish wiring and insulating the garage today" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 15:06:03 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:05:52 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Windshield R&R Having eliza totally repainted (body on) and also need to do some work under the dash Looked on 311s for details - but couldn't find anything What do I need to do to remove the windshield - presume I will need a new gasket ?? Any info gladly accepted Thx Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 15:41:26 2008 From: Francis Anand To: Alvin Gogineni , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:41:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! Nice job buddy . Alvin Gogineni wrote: I have organized almost all of my roadster pictures into one Webshots address here: http://community.webshots.com/user/alving044 There are 18 albums sorted by content. For example if you wanted to see roadster dashboards then find the "Interior-Dash/Gauges" album. I will continue to add pictures to the albums but please feel free to contribute to any of them. -The "roadsters in print" album is not finished. If your Datsun was featured in literature please send me a scan so I can add it. -Any frame-off/restoration photos would be appreciated too! You are subscribed as francis67datsun@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 16:35:34 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Alvin Gogineni'" Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:33:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! The site is great, but how do we contribute, email to you, or direct on the site? Excuse my technical ignorance, Computers are not my best subject. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Alvin Gogineni [mailto:gogineni.alvin@gene.com] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:48 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! I have organized almost all of my roadster pictures into one Webshots address here: http://community.webshots.com/user/alving044 There are 18 albums sorted by content. For example if you wanted to see roadster dashboards then find the "Interior-Dash/Gauges" album. I will continue to add pictures to the albums but please feel free to contribute to any of them. -The "roadsters in print" album is not finished. If your Datsun was featured in literature please send me a scan so I can add it. -Any frame-off/restoration photos would be appreciated too! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 16:37:39 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: "'dave'" , "'Alvin Gogineni'" Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:37:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! Dave, You can: -e-mail me the photos (alvin@gene.com) -Send me photos to scan -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:daveandlindab@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:34 PM To: 'Alvin Gogineni' Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! The site is great, but how do we contribute, email to you, or direct on the site? Excuse my technical ignorance, Computers are not my best subject. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Alvin Gogineni [mailto:gogineni.alvin@gene.com] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:48 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Pictures in ONE place!! I have organized almost all of my roadster pictures into one Webshots address here: http://community.webshots.com/user/alving044 There are 18 albums sorted by content. For example if you wanted to see roadster dashboards then find the "Interior-Dash/Gauges" album. I will continue to add pictures to the albums but please feel free to contribute to any of them. -The "roadsters in print" album is not finished. If your Datsun was featured in literature please send me a scan so I can add it. -Any frame-off/restoration photos would be appreciated too! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 16:38:55 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Ross Mullen / Sports Imports'" Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:36:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! A definate Rosanne Rosannadanna "Never Mind" moment. -----Original Message----- From: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports [mailto:info@sportsimports.ca] he is gauge expert. Does it for a living.... Ross sports imports On 3-Mar-08, at 9:08 AM, tminerpcav@aol.com wrote: > You talk like you're some kind of guage "expert".? Where do you > "get off" talkin' like that. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 18:01:21 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: daveandlindab@comcast.net, info@sportsimports.ca Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:00:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! OK,? I'd better put this to rest.? Jon and I are good friends, and I was just goofin' with him. But, thank you all for setting me straight. Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: dave To: 'Ross Mullen / Sports Imports' Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 3:36 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passed 100mph for the first time! A definate Rosanne Rosannadanna "Never Mind" moment. -----Original Message----- From: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports [mailto:info@sportsimports.ca] he is gauge expert. Does it for a living.... Ross sports imports On 3-Mar-08, at 9:08 AM, tminerpcav@aol.com wrote: > You talk like you're some kind of guage "expert".? Where do you > "get off" talkin' like that. You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 18:14:53 2008 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:14:40 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Roadsters] A real honest-to-god gauge expert? I didn't realize there was such a person, and now, if this is true, I have a whole mess of questions. Let me know before I go to my "frustration" notebooks to assemble a question filled e-mail. I've not been so excited since I met Dr. Science when I was in the fifth grade. N ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 18:33:52 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:33:37 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] ZCarGarage Open House/Dyno Day 3/8 All, Come to the shop this Saturday and dyno your roadster! This is a great opportunity to see how well your roadster is running/get a baseline before your rebuild or add go-fast parts. There will be plenty of Datsun folks to mingle with as well! ZCarGarage is in San Jose, CA close to SJC airport. Details here on the ZONC website: http://www.zonc.org/index.html Flyer: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2455131890102308741yIPwff See you there! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 19:52:27 2008 From: jrdmf@aol.com To: nmleeds@mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:52:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A real honest-to-god gauge expert? I would be insulted by that comment if it didn't come from a guy who obviously couldn't "fix dinner"? I tell you what there genius.... Next time you jump on that Airplane to visit Ma and Pa Kettle and are flying along fat dumb and ignorant you can ask yourself "is there really a gauge expert"? And hope to God he used the calibrated pipe wrench and the fresh roll of duct tape when he repaired the gauges on your Aircraft? ? If you're going to insult a man's occupation you should at least have the nads to sign your name? Jon Frampton Huntington Beach -----Original Message----- From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 5:14 pm Subject: [Roadsters] A real honest-to-god gauge expert? I didn't realize there was such a person, and now, if this is true, I have a whole mess of questions. Let me know before I go to my "frustration" notebooks to assemble a question filled e-mail. I've not been so excited since I met Dr. Science when I was in the fifth grade. N You are subscribed as jrdmf@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 20:43:50 2008 From: alvin gogineni To: , , Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:42:26 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A real honest-to-god gauge expert? All this "gauge" talk reminds me of a Seinfeld episode... Jerry: What is that, a 12 gauge? Cop: Yeah. Jerry: 12 gauge. Seems to be the most popular gauge. George: My favorite. Jerry: Mine too, love the 12 gauge. George: Makes the 11 gauge look like a cap pistol. Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 > To: nmleeds@mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:52:07 -0500 > From: jrdmf@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A real honest-to-god gauge expert? > > I would be insulted by that comment if it didn't come from a guy who obviously couldn't "fix dinner"? > > I tell you what there genius.... Next time you jump on that Airplane to visit Ma and Pa Kettle and are flying along fat dumb > and ignorant you can ask yourself "is there really a gauge expert"? And hope to God he used the calibrated pipe wrench and > the fresh roll of duct tape when he repaired the gauges on your Aircraft? > ? > > If you're going to insult a man's occupation you should at least have the nads to sign your name? > > > Jon Frampton > Huntington Beach > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nmleeds@mindspring.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 5:14 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] A real honest-to-god gauge expert? > > > > > I didn't realize there was such a person, and now, if this is true, I have a > whole mess of questions. Let me know before I go to my "frustration" notebooks > to assemble a question filled e-mail. > > I've not been so excited since I met Dr. Science when I was in the fifth grade. > > N > You are subscribed as jrdmf@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as alvingogi@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 20:56:47 2008 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:55:53 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: A real honest-to-god gauge expert? My personal favorite is from Mr. Mom: Michael Keaton claims he's re-modeling the house, including the electrical. His wife's business partner asks: So, what are you running 220? Michael Keaton: 220 ... 221 .... whatever it takes. Dan McHatton '66 1600 -------------------- All this "gauge" talk reminds me of a Seinfeld episode...Jerry: What is that, a 12 gauge?Cop: Yeah.Jerry: 12 gauge. Seems to be the most popular gauge.George: My favorite.Jerry: Mine too, love the 12 gauge.George: Makes the 11 gauge look like a cap pistol.Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _____________________________________________________________ Keep your cool with great prices on name brand refrigerators. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iigSYb7QrKWgSsv4k6tVmvqy2Anl jmUM4BrPYDS4sW3oyTFNE/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 21:38:29 2008 From: dansummers@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:38:03 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Cylinder head I plan to pull the cylinder head on a u20. The previous owner of my car told me today that he had the head welded many years ago and that if I could get this one at a reasonable price I should get it.I am pulling it at a wrecking yard and have never pulled one. Can anyone give me any pointers on how to pull it with out damaging it. Or point me in the right directions for the info. Dan 69 - 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 3 22:42:53 2008 From: "Bubba" To: , , Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:42:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A real honest-to-god gauge expert? My Father-in-Law (now deceased) spent his career in the Canadian Air force from WWII until 1976 repairing Aircraft instruments, and training new techs on the trade as well. I knew there was such an occupation. He worked on instruments for DC-3, DC-4, Harvards, several Grumman planes, Sabres, T-33 trainers, F104's (CF104's to us Canucks), Convairs. Hercules, all the way up to Boeing 707's. I love aircraft, and loved to talk about it with him. After he died, while cleaning his garage and house out, we found all sorts of old tools, switches parts and instruments, which we have since donated to an aviation museum. A highly specialized job, instrument techs are like gods. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A real honest-to-god gauge expert? >I would be insulted by that comment if it didn't come from a guy who >obviously couldn't "fix dinner"? > > I tell you what there genius.... Next time you jump on that Airplane to > visit Ma and Pa Kettle and are flying along fat dumb > and ignorant you can ask yourself "is there really a gauge expert"? And > hope to God he used the calibrated pipe wrench and > the fresh roll of duct tape when he repaired the gauges on your Aircraft? > ? > > If you're going to insult a man's occupation you should at least have the > nads to sign your name? > > > Jon Frampton > Huntington Beach > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nmleeds@mindspring.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 5:14 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] A real honest-to-god gauge expert? > > > > > I didn't realize there was such a person, and now, if this is true, I have > a > whole mess of questions. Let me know before I go to my "frustration" > notebooks > to assemble a question filled e-mail. > > I've not been so excited since I met Dr. Science when I was in the fifth > grade. > > N > You are subscribed as jrdmf@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 4 16:56:24 2008 From: philip erickson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:55:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield gasket One way to remove a 68-70 windshield safely is to cut the gasket on the inside after you remove the dash. I have safely removed both safely without cutting the old gasket and therefore was able to reuse the old gasket. You need to be very careful in releasing the gasket from the window frame on the outsideof the lip from the interior even if you cut the interior lip of the gasket. I used a curved pick and rubber lube....take your time and onle push on the windshield after the gasket is loose. Phil --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 4 17:57:51 2008 From: "dave" To: " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:57:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head It's not too complex, Cam cover off, usually both manifolds off or at least disconnect the header and remove it from the head and exhaust pipe. Cam gear unbolts from the cam, and you can use the the little bolt to hold it to the top of the timing chain bracket, it will make sense when you see it. There are, I believe 2 small bolts or studs from the head to the timing cover, and that bolt I ALWAYS forget that holds the timing chain guide to the head. IIRC Small bolts are 10 mm head, standard wrench, the head bolts are 10mm Allen head. If you don't have hex (allen) sockets, what I do is buy a 10mm "l" shaped allen wrench, cut it on the long arm so it's about 1-2 inches long, stick it in a regular 10mm socket and wrap some tape to hold it. Couldn't find anything online , but the basic Chilton manual covers it all. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: dansummers@comcast.net [mailto:dansummers@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:38 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Cylinder head I plan to pull the cylinder head on a u20. The previous owner of my car told me today that he had the head welded many years ago and that if I could get this one at a reasonable price I should get it.I am pulling it at a wrecking yard and have never pulled one. Can anyone give me any pointers on how to pull it with out damaging it. Or point me in the right directions for the info. Dan 69 - 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 4 22:30:49 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "dave" , " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:30:34 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head When loosening the head bolts, start at the front and crack the first two head bolts loose, about 1/4 turn, then the back two by the firewall, then the second row from the front, then the second last etc. Once they are all loosened 1/4 turn, loosen then another couple turns. Tap on the side of the head with a rubber mallet or dead blow hammer, or jiggle the manifolds until the head pops loose. Then remove the bolts and head. Basically the reverse of installation. This minimizes any chance of warpage. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head > It's not too complex, Cam cover off, usually both manifolds off or at > least > disconnect the header and remove it from the head and exhaust pipe. Cam > gear unbolts from the cam, and you can use the the little bolt to hold it > to > the top of the timing chain bracket, it will make sense when you see it. > There are, I believe 2 small bolts or studs from the head to the timing > cover, and that bolt I ALWAYS forget that holds the timing chain guide to > the head. IIRC Small bolts are 10 mm head, standard wrench, the head bolts > are 10mm Allen head. If you don't have hex (allen) sockets, what I do is > buy a 10mm "l" shaped allen wrench, cut it on the long arm so it's about > 1-2 > inches long, stick it in a regular 10mm socket and wrap some tape to hold > it. > > Couldn't find anything online , but the basic Chilton manual covers it > all. > > Dave Brisco > ECR > > -----Original Message----- > From: dansummers@comcast.net [mailto:dansummers@comcast.net] > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:38 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Cylinder head > > > I plan to pull the cylinder head on a u20. The previous owner of my car > told > me today that he had the head welded many years ago and that if I could > get > this one at a reasonable price I should get it.I am pulling it at a > wrecking > yard and have never pulled one. Can anyone give me any pointers on how to > pull it with out damaging it. Or point me in the right directions for the > info. > > Dan > 69 - 2000 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 4 23:28:12 2008 From: peter harrison To: Bubba , dave , Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:27:57 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head I don't know if this applies in this case, but I have often heard, and indeed believe, that with old nuts/bolts it is often better to tighten them up a flat or so and then begin to loosen FWIW ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 07:03:11 2008 From: Eric Hoffman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:02:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 owners manual on ebay item number 320223966580 or http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=32645885&site=0&ver=LCA080805&item=320223966580&lk=URL --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 12:41:14 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:40:30 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay "ORIGINAL" 1970 1600 FYI: Nice looking car but... >From the item description: "There is absolutely no rust in this car and is in amazing original condition." I didn't look that close, but the rust in the trunk and on the engine components, and the respray, and the missing parts, and the misc non-original upholstery and the non-stock parts, etc....a good "ten footer", but no more. The seller will probably respond that he/she isn't a Datsun expert and it sure looked original. But it sure isn't. I guess this type of thing happens all the time. Caveat emptor. Regards, Greg SRL31100494 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 14:46:16 2008 From: "Conley" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:45:59 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Test Sorry for the bandwidth. Rebuilding Windows again. -- lonestar -- Conley Phillips Cottage Grove, OR SPL311-08636 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 15:45:44 2008 From: Eric Hoffman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:45:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] owners manual I just an email from someone telling me that my owners manual on ebay is a reproduction. How can I tell if it's original or not? Eric Hoffman --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 15:55:58 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: Eric Hoffman , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:55:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] owners manual I don't have an original owner's manual for my '70 Roadster, but I do have one for my long-gone and sorely-missed '70 PL521 truck - and it's printed on glossy paper - so that would be a clue, I guess. Gary McCormick '70 2000 SRL311-13291 San Jose, CA Eric Hoffman wrote: I just an email from someone telling me that my owners manual on ebay is a reproduction. How can I tell if it's original or not? Eric Hoffman --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 16:38:20 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:37:53 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] owners manual Check it against the original scanned in at 311s.org: Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- > Eric Hoffman wrote: I just an email from someone > telling me that my owners manual on ebay is a reproduction. How can I tell if > it's original or not? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 18:37:49 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Bubba'" , "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team.Net'" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:36:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head I never heard that before, I didn't think a cold head woul warp from the torque being let off unevenly, but I guess it's possible. Not refuting it, just news to me. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Bubba [mailto:bubwin@mts.net] When loosening the head bolts, start at the front and crack the first two head bolts loose, about 1/4 turn, then the back two by the firewall, then the second row from the front, then the second last etc. Once they are all loosened 1/4 turn, loosen then another couple turns. Tap on the side of the head with a rubber mallet or dead blow hammer, or jiggle the manifolds until the head pops loose. Then remove the bolts and head. Basically the reverse of installation. This minimizes any chance of warpage. Bob Winslade ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 19:50:57 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: dave Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:50:43 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head If there is a specified torque pattern for tightening, standard practice is to reverse it to loosen. That's a critical joint - why take chances? Gary McCormick '70 2000 SRL311-13291 San Jose, CA dave wrote: >I never heard that before, I didn't think a cold head woul warp from the >torque being let off unevenly, but I guess it's possible. Not refuting it, >just news to me. > >Dave Brisco > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bubba [mailto:bubwin@mts.net] > >When loosening the head bolts, start at the front and crack the first two >head bolts loose, about 1/4 turn, then the back two by the firewall, then >the second row from the front, then the second last etc. Once they are all >loosened 1/4 turn, loosen then another couple turns. Tap on the side of the > >head with a rubber mallet or dead blow hammer, or jiggle the manifolds until > >the head pops loose. Then remove the bolts and head. Basically the reverse > >of installation. > >This minimizes any chance of warpage. > >Bob Winslade ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 20:18:49 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: daveandlindab@comcast.net Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 03:17:29 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head Yep, my friend Steve (head guru) has shown me a number of "banana heads" (i.e. warped) from improper removal. Just because it is cold does not mean it is not under stress. Good info to know! Greg Burrows 67 2000 588 -- "dave" wrote: I never heard that before, I didn't think a cold head woul warp from the torque being let off unevenly, but I guess it's possible. Not refuting it, just news to me. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Bubba [mailto:bubwin@mts.net] When loosening the head bolts, start at the front and crack the first two head bolts loose, about 1/4 turn, then the back two by the firewall, then the second row from the front, then the second last etc. Once they are all loosened 1/4 turn, loosen then another couple turns. Tap on the side of the head with a rubber mallet or dead blow hammer, or jiggle the manifolds until the head pops loose. Then remove the bolts and head. Basically the reverse of installation. This minimizes any chance of warpage. Bob Winslade You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _____________________________________________________________ Tired of Meeting the Wrong Type. Only Catholic Singles. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4vCMDismnv3SSv1D4BFgqedA sbWl62JUYzRb8khWhaJ7hjcA/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 20:22:14 2008 From: "Dave Stoll" To: "dave" , "'Bubba'" , Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:23:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head There is a tolerance for how flat the head is. None are perfectly flat. If the head is curved so that the ends touch the top of the block first, by starting torquing the bolts in the middle first you pull the curve down and flatten the head. If you were to start tightening the bolts at the end first it would be much harder to pull the head down flat in the middle..we are only talking a couple thousandths but thats all it takes to get a leaky head gasket.. I believe the tolerance on the 1600 heads is .003 to .005 thousandths of an inch or about the thickness of a piece of notebook paper... daveS ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'Bubba'" ; "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team.Net'" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head >I never heard that before, I didn't think a cold head woul warp from the > torque being let off unevenly, but I guess it's possible. Not refuting > it, > just news to me. > > Dave Brisco ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 22:19:58 2008 From: Leigh Brooks To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team.Net" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:19:46 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Hood River Run - April 19 I finally got a web page up for the event. I'll post more details as we get closer! RSVP through the web page if you are planning on attending! http://www.shiftco.com/hood_river_run/ Leigh Brooks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 22:21:46 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Gregory S. Morrison" , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:21:43 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay "ORIGINAL" 1970 1600 Greg, I agree. The disparity between the condition of the body and the corrosion on the engine components is pretty clear evidence of a repaint. Don't know who this guy thought he was going to fool. Calls into question every representation made in the ad. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay "ORIGINAL" 1970 1600 > FYI: Nice looking car but... > >>From the item description: "There is absolutely no rust in this car and is > in amazing original condition." > > I didn't look that close, but the rust in the trunk and on the engine > components, and the respray, and the missing parts, and the misc > non-original upholstery and the non-stock parts, etc....a good "ten > footer", > but no more. > > The seller will probably respond that he/she isn't a Datsun expert and it > sure looked original. But it sure isn't. I guess this type of thing > happens > all the time. Caveat emptor. > > Regards, > Greg > SRL31100494 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 22:25:09 2008 From: "dave" To: " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:24:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Update and East Coast Roadsters new products Just an Update, New Email, EastCoastRoadster@comcast.net. The old email, DaveandLindaB@Comcast.net still works too, this just makes it easier to keep track of correspondence. I have some new items to add. Custom fit plug wires, a variety of styles. Stock style 7mm wire sets, Points or Electronic, all styles $30.00 USA Made, all black very stock Beck Arnley premium Blue wires, nice, most are all blue, a few with black boots. Autolite Premium, grey with black boots I got a special purchace on the Beck Arnleys, have 25 sets ready to ship. It may be a one time purchace. The black and grey are in stock, a few of each, and I can get more. I also have a variety of high performance Accell and Mallory, Black, Red, or Blue. Staight or angle distributor boots. LHD and RHD. Each set is custom made to order. 8MM std supression$45.00- Spiral Core 8mm $55.00 Coils for EI distributors, either style $40.00 Black with tan top, 40.000v http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii241/daveandlindab/coil1.jpg Chrome with red top Mallory 45,000v http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii241/daveandlindab/coilmallory.jpg By the way, I'm looking for Roadster cores, Contact me if you want to clean off the spare parts shelf. Thanks Dave Brisco [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 23:06:25 2008 From: Bill Schairer To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:10:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay "ORIGINAL" 1970 1600 What I've never been able to figure out is how all the one owner cars are never being sold by the one owner? It is ALWAYS somebody else. What am I missing? Bill San Diego 70 1600 66 1600 63 320 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 5 23:40:40 2008 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Bill Schairer Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:40:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay "ORIGINAL" 1970 1600 Bill, The seller would appear to be overlooking the fact that his purchase of the vehicle renders it no longer "one woner". Take a look at the seller's other items. He is in the business of buying and selling cars. I find it impossible to believe that he is not aware that the roadster has been repainted, and is, therefore, not "original". Looking at the other discrepancies between his description and the condition of the car, you've got to ask yourself, as many did regarding a former resident of the Whittier area who gained some notoriety in Washington, "Would you buy a used car from this man?" I hope those whomever buys this car at over $4,000 aren't disappointed when they see it in person. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ---- From: Bill Schairer To: Gary and Cindy Ault Cc: Gregory S. Morrison ; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 12:10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay "ORIGINAL" 1970 1600 What I've never been able to figure out is how all the one owner cars are never being sold by the one owner? It is ALWAYS somebody else. What am I missing? Bill San Diego 70 1600 66 1600 63 320 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 05:50:21 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team.Net'" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 04:50:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head Years ago I had a head warp on my first roadster, and like an idiot, I had it shaved. A few weeks later the cam broke in half. You can't make this stuff up. Jim Dave Stoll wrote: There is a tolerance for how flat the head is. None are perfectly flat. If the head is curved so that the ends touch the top of the block first, by starting torquing the bolts in the middle first you pull the curve down and flatten the head. If you were to start tightening the bolts at the end first it would be much harder to pull the head down flat in the middle..we are only talking a couple thousandths but thats all it takes to get a leaky head gasket.. I believe the tolerance on the 1600 heads is .003 to .005 thousandths of an inch or about the thickness of a piece of notebook paper... daveS ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'Bubba'" ; "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team.Net'" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head >I never heard that before, I didn't think a cold head woul warp from the > torque being let off unevenly, but I guess it's possible. Not refuting > it, > just news to me. > > Dave Brisco You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 07:24:38 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:24:23 EST Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head In a message dated 3/6/2008 4:50:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com writes: Years ago I had a head warp on my first roadster, and like an idiot, I had it shaved. A few weeks later the cam broke in half. You can't make this stuff up. Jim When you have an overhead cam head shaved you need to shave both sides. If you don't the cam tower pads are out of line and the cam will have a bend. This leads to it breaking in two. You would be suprised how many "professional" shops don't know this. Reinstall the cam without the valves first. You should be able to turn the cam by hand. If not, there is a problem. keith **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 09:59:19 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:58:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head A good lesson for all you out there not to repeat my mistake. Of course on that car, I was fortunate to not damage a piston and found a good head with a B cam, which I loved.... More unfortumately, I sold the car and it was burned up in a garage fire....... It was a rocket. Jim Keith0alan@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/6/2008 4:50:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com writes: Years ago I had a head warp on my first roadster, and like an idiot, I had it shaved. A few weeks later the cam broke in half. You can't make this stuff up. Jim When you have an overhead cam head shaved you need to shave both sides. If you don't the cam tower pads are out of line and the cam will have a bend. This leads to it breaking in two. You would be suprised how many "professional" shops don't know this. Reinstall the cam without the valves first. You should be able to turn the cam by hand. If not, there is a problem. keith --------------------------------- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 10:29:25 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:26:49 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head Heads can be straighted by heating without shaving them if the shop is set up to do that. Greg -- Jim Gammon wrote: Years ago I had a head warp on my first roadster, and like an idiot, I had it shaved. A few weeks later the cam broke in half. You can't make this stuff up. Jim Dave Stoll wrote: There is a tolerance for how flat the head is. None are perfectly flat. If the head is curved so that the ends touch the top of the block first, by starting torquing the bolts in the middle first you pull the curve down and flatten the head. If you were to start tightening the bolts at the end first it would be much harder to pull the head down flat in the middle..we are only talking a couple thousandths but thats all it takes to get a leaky head gasket.. I believe the tolerance on the 1600 heads is .003 to .005 thousandths of an inch or about the thickness of a piece of notebook paper... daveS ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'Bubba'" ; "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team.Net'" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head >I never heard that before, I didn't think a cold head woul warp from the > torque being let off unevenly, but I guess it's possible. Not refuting > it, > just news to me. > > Dave Brisco You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _____________________________________________________________ Great pay, great benefits, rewarding. Click for information on a healthcare career. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4vDOt95SqvFjBaqZIOgKNVZa lTmhP1MytKMrwGAxDwjlIEUv/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 11:27:08 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: gregs672liter@netzero.net Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:21:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head Greg, How many shops are likely to be able to do that? And if it can be done it seems that with a scarity of cylinder heads this process may happen more and more. I always here that cylinder heads can be found but I don't see them too often on EBAY. Linda -----Original Message----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 9:26 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder hea Heads can be straighted by heating without shaving them if the shop is set up to do that. Greg -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 11:36:35 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:43:29 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Way OT - But fun - How To Advertise Click on the link and let it load. Then sit back and watch. http://producten.hema.nl/ Tom 69 2000 Portland ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 12:16:38 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:56:31 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] completely off topic - funeral music first - my apologies - i know this can be a sensitive topic - i lost my own father last October - again my apologies i don't want to offend anyone a recent choice for a funeral at our church was "stayin alive" by the bee gees ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 12:22:57 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 14:05:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Way OT - But fun - How To Advertise Thanks Tom....been having some not good days here and that just made me laugh. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Way OT - But fun - How To Advertise > Click on the link and let it load. Then sit back and watch. > > http://producten.hema.nl/ > > Tom > 69 2000 > Portland > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jklingman@stny.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 14:12:57 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:12:41 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] BABE 2008: Road rally on the cheap ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 15:25:51 2008 From: Peter Jones To: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 06:25:40 +0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] completely off topic - funeral music My father had chosen the music "Star Trekkin" for his music to be played at the moment his coffin moved along the belt. Everybody had a laugh with him for last. Peter j> From: sumton@sbcglobal.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:56:31 -0600> Subject: [Roadsters] completely off topic - funeral music> > first - my apologies - i know this can be a sensitive topic - i lost my own> father last October - again my apologies i don't want to offend anyone> > > a recent choice for a funeral at our church was "stayin alive" by the bee > gees> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as dato1500@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! 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(Not at first, but they dropped it rather quickly, as I recall.) Gary Ault ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Gammon To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team.Net" Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 6:50:09 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head Years ago I had a head warp on my first roadster, and like an idiot, I had it shaved. A few weeks later the cam broke in half. You can't make this stuff up. Jim Dave Stoll wrote: There is a tolerance for how flat the head is. None are perfectly flat. If the head is curved so that the ends touch the top of the block first, by starting torquing the bolts in the middle first you pull the curve down and flatten the head. If you were to start tightening the bolts at the end first it would be much harder to pull the head down flat in the middle..we are only talking a couple thousandths but thats all it takes to get a leaky head gasket.. I believe the tolerance on the 1600 heads is .003 to .005 thousandths of an inch or about the thickness of a piece of notebook paper... daveS ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'Bubba'" ; "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team.Net'" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head >I never heard that before, I didn't think a cold head woul warp from the > torque being let off unevenly, but I guess it's possible. Not refuting > it, > just news to me. > > Dave Brisco You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 6 21:30:09 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:29:57 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Windshield Post Weather stripping I am having Eliza repainted and there is a question about weather stripping when I dress her up again. There is a piece of w/s that goes between the winshield post the the window. I have heard that there is supposed to be a metal strip that holds said w/s into the post as opposed to gluing it down. This is a 1970 Any thorts????????// Thx Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 7 12:56:01 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: peter harrison Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:55:19 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windshield Post Weather stripping > There is a piece of w/s that goes between the > winshield post the the window. I have heard that there is supposed to be a > metal strip that holds said w/s into the post as opposed to gluing it down. The metal strip exists on '68 and '69 cars, so I'd wager a guess that '70 is the same. If I'm reading the parts manual right, I suspect these are "retainer-garnish". Hard to tell on the online copy; my clearer printed copy is at home. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 7 15:24:41 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:18:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters in print, Classic Motorsports The May issue of Classic Motorsports, page 8, with an article about The Mitty, has a nice size photo of a white 2000 with a DATSUN front license plate, followed by a red flat dash 1600. The photo is from last years Mitty. This year's Mitty is May 2-4 at Road Atlanta. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 7 15:55:33 2008 From: Larry Dziuba To: Charles Breault , Pete Peters Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:54:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to That is a great toon. It has been driving me mad trying to describe it to people ( if only I could remember a few words or carry a toon). My dry cleaner sets up a 62 Chevie Impala convertible in his front office during Christmas. The car has Santa driving and about three raindeer in the back seat. The car also rocks up and down. I want one. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Breault" To: "Pete Peters" ; Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to > Always loved that song > Charlie B. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:51 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to > > >> For those of you not on 311s.org or that missed it... >> >> >> >> Pete "hoping to finish wiring and insulating the garage today" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 7 17:44:14 2008 From: To: Larry Dziuba , Charles Breault Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:43:59 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to The tune is "Low Rider" by the band "War". Lee Ehinger >From: Larry Dziuba >Date: 2008/03/07 Fri PM 04:54:31 CST >To: Charles Breault , Pete Peters , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to >That is a great toon. It has been driving me mad trying to describe it to >people ( if only I could remember a few words or carry a toon). My dry >cleaner sets up a 62 Chevie Impala convertible in his front office during >Christmas. The car has Santa driving and about three raindeer in the back >seat. The car also rocks up and down. I want one. Larry. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Charles Breault" >To: "Pete Peters" ; > >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:16 AM >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to > > >> Always loved that song >> Charlie B. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pete Peters" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 2:51 PM >> Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Music to turn wrenches to >> >> >>> For those of you not on 311s.org or that missed it... >>> >>> >>> >>> Pete "hoping to finish wiring and insulating the garage today" >________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 7 20:48:54 2008 From: "dave" To: , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:48:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BABE 2008: Road rally on the cheap We are already registered, Team name is "The Butt Monkey Chimp Chillers" Long story, but it's a brand of beer. After watching an episode of "Top Gear" where they drove through Alabama, I think the name is changing to "Shut Up and Push". The Team so far, Mark Dent, His son, Me and my wife Linda. We may have a guest appearance by Sid Raper. Our weapon of choice is a $225.00 Chevy Astro van, should be a real screamer through Deal's Gap. Anyone wants to meet up on the route, let us know!! Memorial Day weekend. Anyone needs a cheap van and will pick up in New Orleans, definatly let me know Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: ppeters914@comcast.net [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 00:12:02 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 23:15:50 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT but very cool New German Parking Garage German Parking Garage This is pretty amazing! Can you imagine how all this operates? How do they lock each car in its cubicle for safety? WHO CARES. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND COULD GET IN THERE. Talk about German efficiency! The two photos below were taken at a new parking garage in Munich . The actual space that the facility occupies is approximately only 20% of a comparable facility with the traditional design that is used primarily in the US . Not only is the German structure less expensive to build, but vehicles are also 'retrieved' in less time and without the potential of being damaged by an attendant. http://datsun510.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=13597 http://datsun510.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=13596 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 06:16:34 2008 From: aiken1315@bellsouth.net To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:15:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters in print, Classic Motorsports The red flat dash sounds like my car but I have not received my May edition yet. David -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> > > The May issue of Classic Motorsports, page 8, with an article about The > Mitty, has a nice size photo of a white 2000 with a DATSUN front license > plate, followed by a red flat dash 1600. The photo is from last years > Mitty. > > > > This year's Mitty is May 2-4 at Road Atlanta. > > > > Paul > > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aiken1315@bellsouth.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 07:48:48 2008 From: "James Fogg" To: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:45:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT but very cool New German Parking Garage > German Parking Garage > I've seen this before along with a news article somewhere. It's a great idea. The only thing that worries me is if they take a leaking junker and park it above me. The ramps look solid so I guess that liquids and oils will run to the center or edge, but it would be nice if that was certain. I hope they have a large fire suppression system. That structure is basically a chimney and a fire in one car would quickly consume the cars above and become a fire that couldn't be extinguished. Cars burn rapidly and violently. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 08:28:12 2008 From: Mike Harper To: aiken1315@bellsouth.net, Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:27:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters in print, Classic Motorsports David the car in the background IS you, but the nice one up front that gets all the raves, is my old Rodney! That was our last drive in the pale yellow 2000 which I sold at the 2007 Auction at the Mitty. Great car, and he is missed in SC. Mike SC --- aiken1315@bellsouth.net wrote: > The red flat dash sounds like my car but I have not > received my May edition yet. > > David > > -------------- Original message > ---------------------- > From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> > > > > The May issue of Classic Motorsports, page 8, > with an article about The > > Mitty, has a nice size photo of a white 2000 with > a DATSUN front license > > plate, followed by a red flat dash 1600. The > photo is from last years > > Mitty. > > > > > > > > This year's Mitty is May 2-4 at Road Atlanta. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > Ohio > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as aiken1315@bellsouth.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 10:31:04 2008 From: "jtorres67" To: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:30:48 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Show Reminder To all Solvang Datsun Roadster Classic people, Thank you to all who have registered for the show and or contacted me about it. I just wanted to remind everyone that our yearly event is fastly approaching along with the April 11th early registration deadline. If you haven't registered yet, now is the time to do it!! Your registrations are what makes our show go, and it is especially important if you're going to want an embroidered event polo and even more so, to enable us in figuring out how much food we need for the BBQ/Awards show afterward!!! Sooo..thank you for all your support and if you know someone who might want to come, invite them as well! Thanks for your support. www.solvangshow.com Jeff T. Lemoore, CA p.s. If you have sent your registration in, you can check the website. I usually update as they come in. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 12:31:14 2008 From: jrdmf@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:18:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT but I bet it's a fun car to drive? Stumbled across this?one on ebay today. Sure glad I didn't come up against?it while I was?driving my 2 liter. Could have been a little embarassing. :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=170198870876 Jon Frampton Huntington Beach ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 19:27:35 2008 From: Tim To: James Fogg , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:25:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT but very cool New German Parking Garage I think I can to put my half wit/half cents worth in here. I know from (indirect) experience that European cars are better maintained than the cars in the US. They also have to pass extremely tougher road and licensing tests than ours do. When we moved to the UK in '82, Dad had his '70 1600 shipped over so he wouldn't have to buy two cars. Based on the very stringent testing they have over there, Dad had to totally rebuild his brake system because his then, 12 year old Roadster, could not pass their test(s). And again, it was only 12 years old at the time. BTW...Dad is your typical shade tree mechanic who has rebuilt the engine and tranny himself, as well as re stitching the interior himself--twice, so you can, hopefully, imagine how well maintained the car was at the time. So one has to think that the cars stored in this facility are not the leaky sort. Then again, this picture looks kinda like a Hot Wheal garage I had as a kid!! So maybe it is just a model???? Sorry for the bandwidth Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Two part cars (now) and a pissed off wife Still clueless but always learning ---- James Fogg wrote: ============= > German Parking Garage > I've seen this before along with a news article somewhere. It's a great idea. The only thing that worries me is if they take a leaking junker and park it above me. The ramps look solid so I guess that liquids and oils will run to the center or edge, but it would be nice if that was certain. I hope they have a large fire suppression system. That structure is basically a chimney and a fire in one car would quickly consume the cars above and become a fire that couldn't be extinguished. Cars burn rapidly and violently. You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 19:29:35 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:27:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT but very cool New German Parking Garage I think I can to put my half wit/half cents worth in here. I know from (indirect) experience that European cars are better maintained than the cars in the US. They also have to pass extremely tougher road and licensing tests than ours do. When we moved to the UK in '82, Dad had his '70 1600 shipped over so he wouldn't have to buy two cars. Based on the very stringent testing they have over there, Dad had to totally rebuild his brake system because his then, 12 year old Roadster, could not pass their test(s). And again, it was only 12 years old at the time. BTW...Dad is your typical shade tree mechanic who has rebuilt the engine and tranny himself, as well as re stitching the interior himself--twice, so you can, hopefully, imagine how well maintained the car was at the time. So one has to think that the cars stored in this facility are not the leaky sort. Then again, this picture looks kinda like a Hot Wheal garage I had as a kid!! So maybe it is just a model???? Sorry for the bandwidth Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Two part cars (now) and a pissed off wife Still clueless but always learning ---- James Fogg wrote: ============= > German Parking Garage > I've seen this before along with a news article somewhere. It's a great idea. The only thing that worries me is if they take a leaking junker and park it above me. The ramps look solid so I guess that liquids and oils will run to the center or edge, but it would be nice if that was certain. I hope they have a large fire suppression system. That structure is basically a chimney and a fire in one car would quickly consume the cars above and become a fire that couldn't be extinguished. Cars burn rapidly and violently. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 19:32:33 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "dave" , "'Bubba'" , Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 20:32:43 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head I'm sure there are people out there smarter than me, but my opinion is as follows: It makes no difference how one loosens the head bolts. I am sure that many heads have proven to be warped after the heads bolts are loosened, and the head is removed. But, I believe the condition is the result of stresses induced in the head by improper cooling or other factors, and that it makes no differences how the "tension" is released. When the head and block are cool, there is no force I am aware of which could result in warpage, unless the head is already under differential stress "contained" by the clamping force of the head bolts. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'Bubba'" ; "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team.Net'" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head >I never heard that before, I didn't think a cold head woul warp from the > torque being let off unevenly, but I guess it's possible. Not refuting > it, > just news to me. > > Dave Brisco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bubba [mailto:bubwin@mts.net] > > When loosening the head bolts, start at the front and crack the first two > head bolts loose, about 1/4 turn, then the back two by the firewall, then > the second row from the front, then the second last etc. Once they are > all > loosened 1/4 turn, loosen then another couple turns. Tap on the side of > the > > head with a rubber mallet or dead blow hammer, or jiggle the manifolds > until > > the head pops loose. Then remove the bolts and head. Basically the > reverse > > of installation. > > This minimizes any chance of warpage. > > Bob Winslade > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 21:19:46 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: aultgc@att.net, daveandlindab@comcast.net, bubwin@mts.net, Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:12:09 EST Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head In a message dated 3/8/2008 6:32:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, aultgc@att.net writes: I'm sure there are people out there smarter than me, but my opinion is as follows: It makes no difference how one loosens the head bolts. I am sure that many heads have proven to be warped after the heads bolts are loosened, and the head is removed. But, I believe the condition is the result of stresses induced in the head by improper cooling or other factors, and that it makes no differences how the "tension" is released. When the head and block are cool, there is no force I am aware of which could result in warpage, unless the head is already under differential stress "contained" by the clamping force of the head bolts. Gary Ault It might not make any difference but it can't hurt either. keith **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 8 23:29:19 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:28:11 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT but very cool New German Parking Garage Well, it turns out the garage does exist, but it is not a public garage. It was built for VW: http://www.snopes.com/photos/automobiles/parkade.asp ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 9 07:49:01 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:48:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters in print, Classic Motorsports Paul Wrote: The May issue of Classic Motorsports, page 8, with an article about The Mitty, has a nice size photo of a white 2000 with a DATSUN front license plate, followed by a red flat dash 1600. The photo is from last years Mitty. This year's Mitty is May 2-4 at Road Atlanta. Reply: And WATCH OUT ATLANTA!!! SEROC is comin'!!!! :-) 54 days and counting down!!! Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 9 23:56:13 2008 From: "Bubba" To: , , , Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:56:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head I don't know, but I have about 150 shop manuals from my many years as a fully licensed mechanic, and the engineers that designed the engines and wrote those manuals seem to mention with some regularity to loosen them as I suggest, in sequence. But who am I to say. I guess opinions are better than my years of training, schooling, licensing and working as a mechanic? All those years I've been doing it wrong! I'll not bother to share my wasted years of knowledge again. I'm sure others know better. Happy fixing. Good Luck. But then again I only scored 89% on the Government exam for my license. Oh yeah, step 13 might be of some interest http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/17/a5/ea/0900823d8017a5ea/re pairInfoPages.htm BMW's too? http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/21/05/13/0900823d80210513/re pairInfoPages.htm Bob (never warped a head, never blew an engine I built, including engines I did in the Phone Company Fleet) Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: aultgc@att.net ; daveandlindab@comcast.net ; bubwin@mts.net ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head In a message dated 3/8/2008 6:32:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, aultgc@att.net writes: I'm sure there are people out there smarter than me, but my opinion is as follows: It makes no difference how one loosens the head bolts. I am sure that many heads have proven to be warped after the heads bolts are loosened, and the head is removed. But, I believe the condition is the result of stresses induced in the head by improper cooling or other factors, and that it makes no differences how the "tension" is released. When the head and block are cool, there is no force I am aware of which could result in warpage, unless the head is already under differential stress "contained" by the clamping force of the head bolts. Gary Ault It might not make any difference but it can't hurt either. keith ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 07:31:59 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: bubwin@mts.net, aultgc@att.net, daveandlindab@comcast.net, Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:32:18 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head In a message dated 3/9/2008 10:57:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bubwin@mts.net writes: I'll not bother to share my wasted years of knowledge again. I'm sure others know better. Happy fixing. Good Luck. Please continue sharing your knowledge. A lot of us appreciate it. This is an unmoderated forum so a certain amount of thick hide is required. However, compared to some car forums this one is quite civilized. Unfortunately every once and a while someone needs to remind up to be a little friendlier by leaving. This is a loss to all of us and a benefit to no one. keith williams **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 07:55:16 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:55:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT but I bet it's a fun car to drive? The 'vette powered TR-6? Dunno, the fwd bank of cylinders is directly over the centerline of the front wheels, which is better than some swaps I've seen, but besides being "rubber challenged", the weight balance and alter effect on cornering is suspect. On another hand, the next time you have an elk encounter (elk-counter?), this might be another direction to go: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/pontiac-solstice-sd-290-concept/463493/ (the grille says BMW to me, not Pontiac) Here's the weekly post from the local car show, it was "British Day". A couple of nice Cortinas, and a bevvy of Mini's (check out the personalized license plates, good for a laugh). http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=492 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 08:09:00 2008 From: Eric Hoffman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] tr6 engine swaps A mechanic I know just put a 6 cyl 3 series BMW driveline in a TR6, he said it was not difficult, obviously brought power and driveability gains, and was cheaper than building the original engine. Eric Hoffman --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 08:49:29 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:47:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 in Alabama for sale- boneyard car got a call from a Tim Merrill in Alabama- he owns a foreign car salvage yard... has a '64 Fairlady with hardtop that's been there for a long time, is asking $750 for it but I'm sure that's negotiable. if you have any interest, feel free to give him a call. Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 09:30:53 2008 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:31:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT but very cool New German Parking Garage I think that is actually the VW plant. Saw a show about it on TV, hundreds of people arrive every day to pick up their new cars. There is a fully automated retrieval/carrier system that delivers the car to the showroom floor without even rolling it - still 0.0 Km on the odometer when it is handed over. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:16 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OT but very cool New German Parking Garage German Parking Garage This is pretty amazing! Can you imagine how all this operates? How do they lock each car in its cubicle for safety? WHO CARES. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND COULD GET IN THERE. Talk about German efficiency! The two photos below were taken at a new parking garage in Munich . The actual space that the facility occupies is approximately only 20% of a comparable facility with the traditional design that is used primarily in the US . Not only is the German structure less expensive to build, but vehicles are also 'retrieved' in less time and without the potential of being damaged by an attendant. http://datsun510.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=13597 http://datsun510.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=13596 You are subscribed as bstjacques@atrua.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 09:48:51 2008 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:49:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun goes bling For those of you who haven't been following the life and times of Snoop Dogg, the talented and vulgar grand-daddy of L.A. gangster rap, and official trend-setter for put-upon thugs and aspiring criminals everywhere you might not have noticed this: http://www.snoopdogg.com/ Snoop, who has previously favored lowered mid-60's impalas (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhNLAqcj6jE) with malfunctioning suspensions, has, in a move showing a late-blooming maturity, forsaken the Chevy for the clean, crisp, lines of a Datsun 510 sports-wagon as the cover car for his new album "Ego-Trippin." Whether or not this means that the 6'3" rapper will be cruisin' in a Fairlady is, as of yet, unannounced. But rumors are ramped. For the rest of us, it might be time to learn some gang signs to throw. Nathaniel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 10:59:56 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:00:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] ZCG Dyno Pics/Videis!! Good times!!! Dyno day was awesome. Lots of Datsun/Nissan folks and great weather. Each car got 3-4 pulls. This little red 510 wagon surprised everyone with an impressive dyno run: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2149243410102308741JSedOH It had a Rebello built 2.3L engine and pulled 137rwhp/128tq!! Here's a video of the run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxDjg58DIX0 Check this out, I have never seen this before, but I noticed while recording this dyno run that you can actually see the fuel being atomized in the carbs!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7XH8eosu0k Jack and Yolanda showed up in a super-rare '05 NSX: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2269755530102308741gTLZVt Here's the dyno run, it keeps on revving and revving to 8krpm! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWR8iOZVgLg This 2.2L L-series powered dime made 103rwhp/121tq. Timing was maxed out so an attempt to make more power was unsuccessful after 5 pulls: Rick's SU-powered auto-cross Z pulled 175rwhp/171tq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otAMXjWZCk Biggest surprise was from Scott Smith Z32TT BEAST. He said it would pull "almost" 500rwhp on lOW boost, it pulled 543rwhp!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnTPVWKqNpA After more than a year of sitting at my friends shop I finally presented this model to my friend, Paul Hooks. Paul was happy with the model and I snapped a few pics. We even dyno'd his pretty Z. Now I can say that this model is truly "finished"! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2113901360102308741ZnhwGN The dyno run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sw9fbSoVmY Also had my Z33 dyno'd: 249hp/230tq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQMi6Yqblpk ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 11:50:22 2008 From: Pat Horne To: Keith0alan@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:51:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head Keith's right. Some times you get flamed when you deserve it, some times you get flamed when you don't! I sent email to a user on a different list the other day telling him how much better a different manufacturer's wireless networking gear was. A few minutes later I get a copy of the email. Turns out I sent the email to the whole list, including the mailing lists owner, the a manufacturer of wireless gear! Fully expecting to get flamed, I posted an apology to the list, telling why I said what I did. Several folks addressed why I said what I did, I didn't get flamed, and the manufacturer didn't take me off the list! Quite a surprise. Our list is really quite tame in comparison to others I am on, too bad they aren't all this good. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Keith0alan@aol.com: > In a message dated 3/9/2008 10:57:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > bubwin@mts.net writes: > > > I'll not bother to share my wasted years of knowledge again. I'm sure > others > know better. Happy fixing. Good Luck. > > > > > > > Please continue sharing your knowledge. A lot of us appreciate it. This is > an unmoderated forum so a certain amount of thick hide is required. However, > compared to some car forums this one is quite civilized. Unfortunately every > once and a while someone needs to remind up to be a little friendlier by > leaving. This is a loss to all of us and a benefit to no one. > > keith williams > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 13:16:45 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:16:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head Putting out the fire right away is important to keeping a List in control. On a non-moderated List that would come down to peer pressure or the List owner ultimately. This List seems to take care of itself pretty well, but I remember it being different a few times. Bob, I think you over reacted a bit. Generally people don't know what your expertise is and so may disagree. Heck, they my disagree in spite of your expertise! Anyway, if we are civil, no name calling, then I think we are better than a lot of Lists, for sure. My .02 Linda - ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 15:48:43 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:49:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports--May issue has any one out there received theirs yet? I am referring to your subscription, not a newstand purchase. thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 16:41:57 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Alvin Gogineni" , Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:42:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ZCG Dyno Pics/Videis!! What no Roadsters??????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Gogineni" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: [Roadsters] ZCG Dyno Pics/Videis!! > Good times!!! > Dyno day was awesome. Lots of Datsun/Nissan folks and great weather. > Each car got 3-4 pulls. > This little red 510 wagon surprised everyone with an impressive dyno run: > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2149243410102308741JSedOH > > > It had a Rebello built 2.3L engine and pulled 137rwhp/128tq!! > > Here's a video of the run: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxDjg58DIX0 > > > > Check this out, I have never seen this before, but I noticed while > recording > this dyno run that you can actually see the fuel being atomized in the > carbs!!! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7XH8eosu0k > > Jack and Yolanda showed up in a super-rare '05 NSX: > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2269755530102308741gTLZVt > > > Here's the dyno run, it keeps on revving and revving to 8krpm! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWR8iOZVgLg > > This 2.2L L-series powered dime made 103rwhp/121tq. Timing was maxed out > so > an attempt to make more power was unsuccessful after 5 pulls: > > Rick's SU-powered auto-cross Z pulled 175rwhp/171tq > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otAMXjWZCk > > Biggest surprise was from Scott Smith Z32TT BEAST. He said it would pull > "almost" 500rwhp on lOW boost, it pulled 543rwhp!!! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnTPVWKqNpA > > After more than a year of sitting at my friends shop I finally presented > this model to my friend, Paul Hooks. > Paul was happy with the model and I snapped a few pics. > We even dyno'd his pretty Z. Now I can say that this model is truly > "finished"! > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2113901360102308741ZnhwGN > > > > The dyno run: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sw9fbSoVmY > > > > Also had my Z33 dyno'd: > 249hp/230tq > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQMi6Yqblpk > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 16:45:49 2008 From: John Wightman To: nmleeds@mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:45:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun goes bling Haha, I like how, in order to maintain his "image", they write on the website exactly how he speaks... that must take some time to figure out, fo shizzle. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of nmleeds@mindspring.com Sent: March-10-08 8:49 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun goes bling For those of you who haven't been following the life and times of Snoop Dogg, the talented and vulgar grand-daddy of L.A. gangster rap, and official trend-setter for put-upon thugs and aspiring criminals everywhere you might not have noticed this: http://www.snoopdogg.com/ Snoop, who has previously favored lowered mid-60's impalas (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhNLAqcj6jE) with malfunctioning suspensions, has, in a move showing a late-blooming maturity, forsaken the Chevy for the clean, crisp, lines of a Datsun 510 sports-wagon as the cover car for his new album "Ego-Trippin." Whether or not this means that the 6'3" rapper will be cruisin' in a Fairlady is, as of yet, unannounced. But rumors are ramped. For the rest of us, it might be time to learn some gang signs to throw. Nathaniel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 17:02:20 2008 From: Riaz Abzal To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ZCG Dyno Pics/Videis!! Hey Alvin, Nice pics/videos of the dyno day...Your 350 sounds nice, what exhaust set-up are you running?...and by any chance did you get to run the 67 roadster as well? -Riaz Abzal Alvin Gogineni wrote: Good times!!! Dyno day was awesome. Lots of Datsun/Nissan folks and great weather. Each car got 3-4 pulls. This little red 510 wagon surprised everyone with an impressive dyno run: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2149243410102308741JSedOH It had a Rebello built 2.3L engine and pulled 137rwhp/128tq!! Here's a video of the run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxDjg58DIX0 Check this out, I have never seen this before, but I noticed while recording this dyno run that you can actually see the fuel being atomized in the carbs!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7XH8eosu0k Jack and Yolanda showed up in a super-rare '05 NSX: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2269755530102308741gTLZVt Here's the dyno run, it keeps on revving and revving to 8krpm! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWR8iOZVgLg This 2.2L L-series powered dime made 103rwhp/121tq. Timing was maxed out so an attempt to make more power was unsuccessful after 5 pulls: Rick's SU-powered auto-cross Z pulled 175rwhp/171tq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otAMXjWZCk Biggest surprise was from Scott Smith Z32TT BEAST. He said it would pull "almost" 500rwhp on lOW boost, it pulled 543rwhp!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnTPVWKqNpA After more than a year of sitting at my friends shop I finally presented this model to my friend, Paul Hooks. Paul was happy with the model and I snapped a few pics. We even dyno'd his pretty Z. Now I can say that this model is truly "finished"! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2113901360102308741ZnhwGN The dyno run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sw9fbSoVmY Also had my Z33 dyno'd: 249hp/230tq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQMi6Yqblpk You are subscribed as riazabzal@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 17:04:16 2008 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:04:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun goes bling All you need to do is go to http://www.gizoogle.com/ They have a handy 2 way translator. Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Wightman Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:46 PM To: nmleeds@mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun goes bling Haha, I like how, in order to maintain his "image", they write on the website exactly how he speaks... that must take some time to figure out, fo shizzle. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 17:48:51 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Alvin Gogineni'" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:49:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ZCG Dyno Pics/Videis!! I did my best to get the roadster folks to come out! -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith@dccnet.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:43 PM To: Alvin Gogineni; 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ZCG Dyno Pics/Videis!! What no Roadsters??????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Gogineni" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: [Roadsters] ZCG Dyno Pics/Videis!! > Good times!!! > Dyno day was awesome. Lots of Datsun/Nissan folks and great weather. > Each car got 3-4 pulls. > This little red 510 wagon surprised everyone with an impressive dyno run: > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2149243410102308741JSedOH > > > It had a Rebello built 2.3L engine and pulled 137rwhp/128tq!! > > Here's a video of the run: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxDjg58DIX0 > > > > Check this out, I have never seen this before, but I noticed while > recording > this dyno run that you can actually see the fuel being atomized in the > carbs!!! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7XH8eosu0k > > Jack and Yolanda showed up in a super-rare '05 NSX: > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2269755530102308741gTLZVt > > > Here's the dyno run, it keeps on revving and revving to 8krpm! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWR8iOZVgLg > > This 2.2L L-series powered dime made 103rwhp/121tq. Timing was maxed out > so > an attempt to make more power was unsuccessful after 5 pulls: > > Rick's SU-powered auto-cross Z pulled 175rwhp/171tq > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otAMXjWZCk > > Biggest surprise was from Scott Smith Z32TT BEAST. He said it would pull > "almost" 500rwhp on lOW boost, it pulled 543rwhp!!! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnTPVWKqNpA > > After more than a year of sitting at my friends shop I finally presented > this model to my friend, Paul Hooks. > Paul was happy with the model and I snapped a few pics. > We even dyno'd his pretty Z. Now I can say that this model is truly > "finished"! > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2113901360102308741ZnhwGN > > > > The dyno run: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sw9fbSoVmY > > > > Also had my Z33 dyno'd: > 249hp/230tq > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQMi6Yqblpk > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 18:35:37 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:35:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports--May issue Got mine late last week. Remember, most magazines ship an issue as it is printed so they don't get across the country on the same day. But hang in there, Classic is worth the wait! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:49 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports--May issue has any one out there received theirs yet? I am referring to your subscription, not a newstand purchase. thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 18:36:47 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: tputland@charter.net Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:36:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports--May issue Yes got it last week in the mail Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 5:49 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports--May issue has any one out there received theirs yet? I am referring to your subscription, not a newstand purchase. thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 18:50:37 2008 From: "Mike Faggart" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:53:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports--May issue just got mine today!! Mike Harper is on page 8, way to go Mike!!! mike faggart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:49 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports--May issue > has any one out there received theirs yet? I am referring to your > subscription, not a newstand purchase. > > thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikef@carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 19:12:57 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:17:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun goes bling That would be Randy York's orange '72 VG30 wagon . Randy also knows the reason Dogg chose a 510 wagon. Sometime in his past life, not sure if it was when he was in high school (the reason for the shoot at Long Beach High School) or after that, Snoop owned a 510 wagon and wanted to go old school for the new CD artwork. The Producer had a hard time finding a 510 wagon (duh) and happened to call Classic Datsun who referred him to Randy. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of nmleeds@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:49 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun goes bling For those of you who haven't been following the life and times of Snoop Dogg, the talented and vulgar grand-daddy of L.A. gangster rap, and official trend-setter for put-upon thugs and aspiring criminals everywhere you might not have noticed this: http://www.snoopdogg.com/ Snoop, who has previously favored lowered mid-60's impalas (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhNLAqcj6jE) with malfunctioning suspensions, has, in a move showing a late-blooming maturity, forsaken the Chevy for the clean, crisp, lines of a Datsun 510 sports-wagon as the cover car for his new album "Ego-Trippin." Whether or not this means that the 6'3" rapper will be cruisin' in a Fairlady is, as of yet, unannounced. But rumors are ramped. For the rest of us, it might be time to learn some gang signs to throw. Nathaniel Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 20:25:10 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Alvin Gogineni" , Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:25:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ZCG Dyno Pics/Videis!! >I did my best to get the roadster folks to come out! I know you did Alvin. I saw your posts both here and on 311s.org. There was lots of notice............ I just can't believe that no roadsters showed up......... Too bad it's so far away, 4-6 hour drive I could handle, 2-3 days one way is a bit much.......... If there is ever a Dyno day in the Northwest ( BC or Washington....??) I'll be there! Daryl Smith '66 "Frankie" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 21:09:44 2008 From: alp To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:10:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head why do people have to get so pissed off when others disagree with them? I didn't read all the posts about this topic but as long as the people aren't belligerent towards each other then who cares if someone listens to you or not. I have 20 years in Dentistry (dental hygienist) and look at how many of you actually listen to me and floss your teeth daily! That's right not a sticken one of you! I am still nice to you the next time I see you and I don't rip your gums apart during the cleaning. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 21:30:32 2008 From: Dennis Louthan <68roadster@charter.net> To: Datsun Roadster Group , Stan Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:31:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Cam Chain Tensioner Question Stan, how do you properly shim the upper cam chain tensioner on a u20. Dennis Minden, NV ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 21:40:00 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:40:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head and stuff Maybe if you did rip our gums apart we would listen to you :) And some of us might even like it - euch!!!!!!!! :) Peter Harrison 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) - currently being repainted and gussied up in new mercedes silver ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 22:43:17 2008 From: "dave" To: , Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:42:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun goes bling There goes the neighborhood!! Dave Brizizzco BTW, try this for fun..Opening page of 311s.org Gizoogled Warning adult contizzle http://www.gizoogle.com/index.php?hl=en&translate=true&transtext=311s.org%0D %0AWELCOME+TO+A+SITE+DEDICATED+TO+ALL+DATSUN+SPORTS+ROADSTERS%0D%0ASo+you+sa w+this+little+sports+cars+flying+down+the+road+and+thought+to+yourself+that+ must+be+an+MG+or+maybe+an+Austin+Healey.+Hum%21+DATSUN%2C+no+that+cannot+be% 2C+DATSUN+never+built+a+cool+little+car+like+that.+Sure+enough+upon+closer+i nspection+it+is+a+1600+Datsun+Roadster.+Coooool+car.%0D%0A%0D%0A Photos too. http://www.gizoogle.com/funnyimages.php -----Original Message----- From: nmleeds@mindspring.com [mailto:nmleeds@mindspring.com] For those of you who haven't been following the life and times of Snoop Dogg, the talented and vulgar grand-daddy of L.A. gangster rap, and official trend-setter for put-upon thugs and aspiring criminals everywhere you might not have noticed this: http://www.snoopdogg.com/ Snoop, who has previously favored lowered mid-60's impalas (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhNLAqcj6jE) with malfunctioning suspensions, has, in a move showing a late-blooming maturity, forsaken the Chevy for the clean, crisp, lines of a Datsun 510 sports-wagon as the cover car for his new album "Ego-Trippin." Whether or not this means that the 6'3" rapper will be cruisin' in a Fairlady is, as of yet, unannounced. But rumors are ramped. For the rest of us, it might be time to learn some gang signs to throw. Nathaniel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 22:43:46 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:47:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head A dentist, eh? Now I know how you afford all those toys! Pete "getting ready to have his 30yo bridge replaced" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alp Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:10 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head why do people have to get so pissed off when others disagree with them? I didn't read all the posts about this topic but as long as the people aren't belligerent towards each other then who cares if someone listens to you or not. I have 20 years in Dentistry (dental hygienist) and look at how many of you actually listen to me and floss your teeth daily! That's right not a sticken one of you! I am still nice to you the next time I see you and I don't rip your gums apart during the cleaning. Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 22:44:09 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:48:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head and stuff Bill Murray in Little Shop of Horrors...... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:40 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head and stuff Maybe if you did rip our gums apart we would listen to you :) And some of us might even like it - euch!!!!!!!! :) Peter Harrison 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) - currently being repainted and gussied up in new mercedes silver ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 10 23:47:42 2008 From: Phill Brook To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:47:29 +1100 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head and stuff Generation gap: Jack Nicholson in the original Little Shop of Horrors :lol; On 11/03/2008, at 3:48 PM, Pete Peters wrote: > Bill Murray in Little Shop of Horrors...... > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces > +ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of peter harrison > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:40 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head and stuff > > > Maybe if you did rip our gums apart we would listen to you :) > > And some of us might even like it - euch!!!!!!!! :) > > Peter Harrison ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 02:10:58 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: ppeters914@comcast.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:09:00 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head Hi gang! Well, just to add fuel to the fire (like it needs it!) I asked my friend Steve (head guru and engine builder) if it made any difference and he was not of the opinion that it did (which is the opposite of what I had recalled him saying, though I am known to have a fuzzy memory at times!). I too have read that you always untorque the head the opposite of how it was torqued to avoid warpage, but Steve pointed out that the head is bolted to a flat surface in the first place and how you unbolt a head (that is not already warped) from a flat surface would make no difference. So, there ya go. I for one will probably continue to unbolt my heads in opposite sequence. And there really is no way to prove it one way or the other very easily. And remember, just because it is written down somewhere does not make it true... kinda like the statement in the original Roadster manual that you cannot remove the cam towers without line boring them afterwards... not true... you just have to use some common sense when reassembling it. Smiles to everyone! Greg Burrows -- "Pete Peters" wrote: A dentist, eh? Now I know how you afford all those toys! Pete "getting ready to have his 30yo bridge replaced" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alp Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:10 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head why do people have to get so pissed off when others disagree with them? I didn't read all the posts about this topic but as long as the people aren't belligerent towards each other then who cares if someone listens to you or not. I have 20 years in Dentistry (dental hygienist) and look at how many of you actually listen to me and floss your teeth daily! That's right not a sticken one of you! I am still nice to you the next time I see you and I don't rip your gums apart during the cleaning. Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _____________________________________________________________ Get everything you need to hook up your own wireless network by clicking now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4ulMUDkWMjEM61bAkkvPqcrM V4LTZmIMmhMv9fvTLJnt010O/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 02:24:45 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:23:22 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] A few questions Ok, now on to another topic... I am redoing my '67 and thinking of replacing the soft top. I have seen some that are very thin (cloth?) and fold up a lot better than the heavy one I have. Anyone have an opinion? I rarely use my top... only if it is gonna seriously rain, so it will be completely covered most of its life. Second, does anyone know if the rear aluminum drums are the same as on an early 240Z? Saw some on Craigslist and thought about picking them up. Third, does anyone know if the door hinges vary in thickness or other design features year to year? Top to bottom? I have a larger gap (particularly at the top) than I like on my passenger door to fender and despite all my fitting efforts have not been able to reduce it as much as I want. The fender is a 70, which may explain it. I know, a 70 fender on a 67 2000... shut up! It's straight, fits great (now) and rust free and I don't feel like redoing another one! Seems to me that it is the door itself that needs to move forward as it is tight at the rear (shuts fine though). I thought about actually shaving down the hinge a bit on both mounting surfaces but some of the holes are recessed and would become pretty thin. Anyone? Finally, what are the dates for Shasta this year? I see that the 4th falls on a friday, so I assume it is the following weekend. Of course, gas by then will be $5.00 a gallon, and I have to add octane boost in the high compression beast on top of the premium as it is, so who knows if I will be able to afford the trip! Thanks! Greg Burrows _____________________________________________________________ Click to receive information from occupational therapy schools near you. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4s2MArGgAayHZRKJQrWsQK0k aZM5SkzP82loittOQZ21Ad2u/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 08:31:56 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: gregs672liter@netzero.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:31:29 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A few questions In a message dated 3/11/2008 1:25:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gregs672liter@netzero.net writes: Third, does anyone know if the door hinges vary in thickness or other design features year to year? Top to bottom? I have a larger gap (particularly at the top) than I like on my passenger door to fender and despite all my fitting efforts have not been able to reduce it as much as I want. Door hinges wear out the pins and they also bend easily. Both cause the doors to be impossible to line up properly. I've still got some replacement pins we had made a while back and I can put together hinge straitening instructions if there is any interest. That is also something I drag along to Shasta. The door hinges are quite thin. You really don't want to lean on the door when it's open or use it to hoist your self out of the car. keith **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 09:22:27 2008 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:21:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? I'm finally at the point where I'm about to upgrade from the "repair" tires that I bought on craigslist for $40 (performance specs: up and down the driveway; cornering: optional; road feel: space cadet) to a set of real tires. What do people like for a weekend driver? Fun on the roads, comfortable, and not bank-busting. Nathaniel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 09:24:26 2008 From: "Matt Jacquet" To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:28:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 311 Happy 311 :) Do something Roadster toady. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 09:41:50 2008 From: Richard Bush To: Matt Jacquet , Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:42:01 +0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311 Good morning to all. Does anyone know of a good car audio website that is able to determine model compatibility? Any input would be most appreciated. Rick On 11/3/08 19:28, "Matt Jacquet" wrote: > Happy 311 :) > > Do something Roadster toady. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rabush2000@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > R A Bush P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE Home: 971 4 344 0631 Mobile: 971 50 456 4357 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 10:30:42 2008 From: To: Matt Jacquet , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:30:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311 Ribbett >From: Matt Jacquet >Date: 2008/03/11 Tue AM 10:28:11 CDT >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] 311 >Happy 311 :) > >Do something Roadster toady. >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as vze2fhba@verizon.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 11:13:53 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: nmleeds@mindspring.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:14:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? > What do people like for a weekend driver? I'm using Kumho's on both a Roadster and on a 'grocery getter', and they're surprisingly decent tires. I had Yokohamas on the Roadster before, and for my driving I find the Kuhmo brand to be just as good. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 13:25:28 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:26:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? Roadster's on jackstands, but I recently replaced the worn Les Schwab specials on the Chrysler with Kuhmo's from Direct Tire. Cheap and work extremely well. Definitely quieter. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John F Sandhoff" > > What do people like for a weekend driver? > > I'm using Kumho's on both a Roadster and on a 'grocery getter', > and they're surprisingly decent tires. I had Yokohamas on the > Roadster before, and for my driving I find the Kuhmo brand to be > just as good. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 13:27:26 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:28:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311 Roadster toady? Not directly roadster, but hope to finish the drywall in the garage, and be closer to being able to do car work. Pete "isn't it Wednesday yet?" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Matt Jacquet" > Happy 311 :) > > Do something Roadster toady. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 13:37:13 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:37:48 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Door gap and hinges (was "Re: A few questions") Hiya, Greg. Similar discussion on the 311s.org forum: Lemme know if your dial-up connection cannot handle it. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Keith0alan@aol.com > In a message dated 3/11/2008 1:25:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > gregs672liter@netzero.net writes: > > Third, does anyone know if the door hinges vary in thickness or other design > features year to year? Top to bottom? I have a larger gap (particularly at > the top) than I like on my passenger door to fender and despite all my > fitting > efforts have not been able to reduce it as much as I want. > > > Door hinges wear out the pins and they also bend easily. Both cause the > doors to be impossible to line up properly. I've still got some replacement pins > we had made a while back and I can put together hinge straitening instructions > if there is any interest. That is also something I drag along to Shasta. > > The door hinges are quite thin. You really don't want to lean on the door > when it's open or use it to hoist your self out of the car. > > keith > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 14:02:34 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:03:00 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few questions") I did a quick Search in the 311s.org forums on "240Z drum*". Found 11 matches, but this should answer your basic question: "The Z drums will bolt right up with out any modifications using an adapter plate which contains the correct boss and counterbore on the backside. I'm going to get the pair of adapters machined on the lathe in the new year." Here's a link to a drawing of the adapter: Early roadsters had steel drums. To use the 240Z drums, you need to modify or replace the backing plates. Pete "no running roadster, but quick with Search!" [snip[ > Second, does anyone know if the rear aluminum drums are the same as on an > early 240Z? Saw some on Craigslist and thought about picking them up. > Thanks! > Greg Burrows ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 14:15:23 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:15:48 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta 2008 (was "Re: A few questions") Doesn't appear the sponsoring group (Modesto Roadster Owners?) has anything posted yet, but Tom has it on the NOWROC calendar as July 12 along with motel info. Unfortunately, I can't hit the NOWROC site from work right now to confirm. Pete [snip] > Finally, what are the dates for Shasta this year? I see that the 4th falls on > a friday, so I assume it is the following weekend. Of course, gas by then > will be $5.00 a gallon, and I have to add octane boost in the high compression > beast on top of the premium as it is, so who knows if I will be able to afford > the trip! > Thanks! > Greg Burrows ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 14:49:13 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: ppeters914@comcast.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:49:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311 > ...but hope to finish the drywall in the garage, and be closer to being > able to do car work. Wow - you can use spackling in place of Bondo? Easier to sand, for sure! Have you tried wallboard tape to repair fender rot? I imagine the fiberglas-backed stuff would be necessary to survive the NorthWest weather :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA p.s. Come on, I'm Joking! But not far from the truth, as I have an autobody book with a chapter on cheap repairs for cars headed to the used car lot. Honest, they document using metal duct tape to patch fender rot! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 14:51:34 2008 From: d-solomon@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:52:07 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list this is a test..... this is only a test.... if this had been an actual message to the list from me, you would see me jumping up and down for joy at havingh succeeded at posting to the list finally...... for about 4 days, nothing i send actually makes it to the list. anyone else? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 15:06:24 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:04:52 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Hey, anyone know what's up with d-solomon? Haven't seen any posts from in about 4 days. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: d-solomon@comcast.net > this is a test..... this is only a test.... > > if this had been an actual message to the list from me, you would see me jumping > up and down for joy at havingh succeeded at posting to the list finally...... > > for about 4 days, nothing i send actually makes it to the list. > anyone else? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 15:06:41 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:06:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311 LOL.....Good one, John. Actually, I haven't done any bodywork yet, and I -HATE- drywall. Debbie normally does that stuff. Plus, I'm not going to tape and sand the garage drywall because "it's only a garage" (she said). Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John F Sandhoff" > > > ...but hope to finish the drywall in the garage, and be closer to being > > able to do car work. > > Wow - you can use spackling in place of Bondo? Easier to sand, > for sure! > > Have you tried wallboard tape to repair fender rot? I imagine > the fiberglas-backed stuff would be necessary to survive the > NorthWest weather :-) > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > > p.s. Come on, I'm Joking! > But not far from the truth, as I have an autobody book with a chapter > on cheap repairs for cars headed to the used car lot. Honest, they > document using metal duct tape to patch fender rot! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 15:17:31 2008 From: jrdmf@aol.com To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:15:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Door gap and hinges (was "Re: A few questions") The body shop I had do the paint work on my first Roadster didn't bother to line everything?up before they?painted it so needless to say I was a bit dissapointed at the way my doors fit. When it came time to?install the doors,?the guy helping me?grabbed a piece of 2"X4" and a single jack and literally moved the post a good 1/4" until both doors fit perfectly. I was seriously sweating bullets as he whailed on that fresh paint but?it actually held up pretty well. He placed a rag between the wood and the paint and the few spots that did require touch up were behind the hinge anway so it was well worth it. I know it sounds radical and I don't recommend anybody tries it?that hasnt' done it before but for an experienced body man it's?just another day at the office.? Jon Frampton Huntington Beach -----Original Message----- From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:37 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Door gap and hinges (was "Re: A few questions") Hiya, Greg. Similar discussion on the 311s.org forum: ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 15:26:01 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:20:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few I'm not sure what the benefits of putting Z drums on our roadsters are but if it's a matter of not being able to find roadster drums, I have at least 10 pairs that have never even had a first cut done on them available... came from a racer who always replaced them with new, never turned them. finned ones, not the earlier ones although I have those also Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 15:34:48 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:35:12 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few Hmmmm.....excellent point, Craig. Why -WOULD- one replace the roadster drums with 240Z drums? Anyone? Bueller? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "chalsted" > I'm not sure what the benefits of putting Z drums on our roadsters are but > if it's a matter of not being able to find roadster drums, I have at least > 10 pairs that have never even had a first cut done on them available... came > from a racer who always replaced them with new, never turned them. finned > ones, not the earlier ones although I have those also > > Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 15:42:48 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:43:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Door gap and hinges << When it came time to install the doors, the guy helping me grabbed a piece of 2"X4" and a single jack and literally moved the post a good 1/4" until both doors fit perfectly. ...for an experienced body man it's just another day at the office. >> There is a story of the English factory from the Sterling plant that Honda helped set-up in England. the "Sterling", as we know it, a short lived Acura Legend made in GB. Once the 8th or 10th came off the line, one of the final fitters went to his supervisor and asked what they were going to do with the wall of graduated sizes of large padded mallets, that had been stock-in-trade for all English car assembly plants since anyone could remember, but were obsolete on the new Japanese model. That being said, if you have ever picked up a copy of "Practical Classics", the amount of welding and panel beating that the "average" Brit will take on in his cold, damp garage (versus the American approach of "buy a never-rusted car from California") is a lesson in low-budget "learn-as-you-go-along" determination. (as well as some entertaining writing) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 15:50:54 2008 From: Bill Oakes To: "ppeters914@comcast.net" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:51:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few Not sure about others on the list, but I have a garage full of Z parts, this is my first roadster On Mar 11, 2008, at 4:35 PM, ppeters914@comcast.net wrote: > Hmmmm.....excellent point, Craig. > > Why -WOULD- one replace the roadster drums with 240Z drums? Anyone? > Bueller? > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "chalsted" >> I'm not sure what the benefits of putting Z drums on our roadsters >> are but >> if it's a matter of not being able to find roadster drums, I have >> at least >> 10 pairs that have never even had a first cut done on them >> available... came >> from a racer who always replaced them with new, never turned them. >> finned >> ones, not the earlier ones although I have those also >> >> Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 17:03:58 2008 From: "Richard Brown" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:04:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Head water passages I am cleaning up and assembling a U20 engine. The water passages from the head to the manifold have never been opened. I have searched and found recommendations for having them open and closed. The have them open thought says the water will keep the manifold cooler. The Sharp comp manual says block them to keep the hot water out of the manifold. I am so confused! Any new thoughts on this? The motor is going into a street car with a working heater. Thanks, Richard Brown [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of icon_confused.gif] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 17:25:45 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: "Richard Brown" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:25:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U20 Head water passages > I am cleaning up and assembling a U20 engine. The water passages > from the head to the manifold have never been opened... > > The motor is going into a street car with a working heater. My vote (documented in postings made long ago to this list) is that for a street car you want the water flowing thru the manifold. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 17:30:39 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "Richard Brown" , "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:31:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U20 Head water passages Depends where you live and the weather conditions. If you drive in the cold, I'd leave them open. A warmer manifold will help with fuel atomization in cold weather. If you're in perpetual summer like socal, leaving them closed won't affect driveability. The comp manual recommends closing them, because a cooler manifold, means cooler intake air temperature and thus more air molecules in the cylinder yielding more power. Steve 70' 1600 just taking up space in the garage. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Brown" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Head water passages >I am cleaning up and assembling a U20 engine. The water passages from the >head > to the manifold have never been opened. I have searched and found > recommendations for having them open and closed. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 17:40:51 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: "'Stephen Wan'" , "'Richard Brown'" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:41:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U20 Head water passages I think folks tend to forget that the "comp" manual may have been written with full race cars in mind. Cars that don't need to be cold started or run for more than 1 hr at a time. Cars that run race fuel and have their engines torn/inspected periodically. I'm confused about the cooling/heating of the manifold: -How does the manifold stay cooler(d) without coolant flow AND the extremely hot exhaust headers mm's away? Wouldn't you need that coolant to transfer the exhaust heat away? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Wan Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:31 PM To: Richard Brown; Datsun Roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U20 Head water passages Depends where you live and the weather conditions. If you drive in the cold, I'd leave them open. A warmer manifold will help with fuel atomization in cold weather. If you're in perpetual summer like socal, leaving them closed won't affect driveability. The comp manual recommends closing them, because a cooler manifold, means cooler intake air temperature and thus more air molecules in the cylinder yielding more power. Steve 70' 1600 just taking up space in the garage. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Brown" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: [Roadsters] U20 Head water passages >I am cleaning up and assembling a U20 engine. The water passages from the >head > to the manifold have never been opened. I have searched and found > recommendations for having them open and closed. You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin@gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 18:26:45 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Roadster List" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:27:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SoCal Roadster Bar B-Q Reminder Well we are just three and a half weeks away from a great time. If you have not yet sent your R.S.V.P. in do so right away. so far we have four Roadsters committed to being here and one possible. So far 15 people showing up, this spells out a great time! It was suggested that we have a Tech Session, so for those that wish to share their knowledge and wish to gain some be sure to chime in with your R.S.V.P. Even if you can't bring your Roadster, come on out! For those that did R.S.V.P., we are looking forward to seeing you, ************************************************************************* *April In History* *1500's  April Fool's Day established* * * 1509 - Henry VIIIbecame king of England *1789 -* US Congress begins regular sessions in Federal Hall * * 1792 - Congress established the first U.S. Mint at Philadelphia 1860 - The American West, Pony Express service began 1864 - "In God We Trust" was included on all newly minted U.S. coins** 1913 - The 17th Amendmentto the U.S. Constitution was ratified 1918 - During World War I, the Red Baron (Manfred von Richtofen) was shot down 1960  Chris Breyer born to Joe & Shan Breyer in Torrance, CA 1963 - *General** Hospital** premiered on ABC-TV* * * *1964 - Ford Motor Company unveiled its Mustang automobile* 1969 - Wheels Magazine featured Fairlady 2000 advertisement. 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I resent that remark! I floss! (Just kidding -- about the resentment.) Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: alp To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head why do people have to get so pissed off when others disagree with them? I didn't read all the posts about this topic but as long as the people aren't belligerent towards each other then who cares if someone listens to you or not. I have 20 years in Dentistry (dental hygienist) and look at how many of you actually listen to me and floss your teeth daily! That's right not a sticken one of you! I am still nice to you the next time I see you and I don't rip your gums apart during the cleaning. You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 18:35:49 2008 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: peter harrison , Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head and stuff Tim, Ja, der some really strange people up in Wisconsin, eh? Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: peter harrison To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:40:29 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cylinder head and stuff Maybe if you did rip our gums apart we would listen to you :) And some of us might even like it - euch!!!!!!!! :) Peter Harrison 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) - currently being repainted and gussied up in new mercedes silver You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 18:52:36 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: ppeters914@comcast.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:51:50 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few I was not sure if they were the same as Roadsters or not, and these were brand new never used and for $50 seemed like a good idea to pick up just in case. Greg -- ppeters914@comcast.net wrote: Hmmmm.....excellent point, Craig. Why -WOULD- one replace the roadster drums with 240Z drums? Anyone? Bueller? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "chalsted" > I'm not sure what the benefits of putting Z drums on our roadsters are but > if it's a matter of not being able to find roadster drums, I have at least > 10 pairs that have never even had a first cut done on them available... came > from a racer who always replaced them with new, never turned them. finned > ones, not the earlier ones although I have those also > > Craig You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _____________________________________________________________ Security Camera for your small business. 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I'm going to get the pair of adapters machined on the lathe in the new year." Here's a link to a drawing of the adapter: Early roadsters had steel drums. To use the 240Z drums, you need to modify or replace the backing plates. Pete "no running roadster, but quick with Search!" [snip[ > Second, does anyone know if the rear aluminum drums are the same as on an > early 240Z? Saw some on Craigslist and thought about picking them up. > Thanks! > Greg Burrows You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _____________________________________________________________ Paying too much credit card interest? Find low APR credit cards. 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If you livein SoCal or don't drive in the rain, get any type you like, rain isn't really an issue. I used 185's because my wheel offset is a bit far out. Many people fit 195's. On sale here, $38.00 ea http://www.2dayparts.com/items/item.aspx?itemid=1549657 I'm sure there are "better" tires for other people's driving style, these work for me. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: nmleeds@mindspring.com [mailto:nmleeds@mindspring.com] I'm finally at the point where I'm about to upgrade from the "repair" tires that I bought on craigslist for $40 (performance specs: up and down the driveway; cornering: optional; road feel: space cadet) to a set of real tires. What do people like for a weekend driver? Fun on the roads, comfortable, and not bank-busting. Nathaniel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 20:07:00 2008 From: "dave" To: "'John F Sandhoff'" , " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:06:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311 So, you've seen the PO body work on my car? There's a tennis ball holding the patch in place inside the rocker panel. Pete, make sure you use greenboard for the outer body panels. -----Original Message----- From: John F Sandhoff [mailto:sandhoff@csus.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:49 PM To: ppeters914@comcast.net Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311 > ...but hope to finish the drywall in the garage, and be closer to > being able to do car work. Wow - you can use spackling in place of Bondo? Easier to sand, for sure! Have you tried wallboard tape to repair fender rot? I imagine the fiberglas-backed stuff would be necessary to survive the NorthWest weather :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA p.s. Come on, I'm Joking! But not far from the truth, as I have an autobody book with a chapter on cheap repairs for cars headed to the used car lot. Honest, they document using metal duct tape to patch fender rot! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 20:15:23 2008 From: Pat Horne To: ppeters914@comcast.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:16:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few Well, since a 240Z runs faster than our beloved Roadsters, maybe by adding their brake drums it will make our cars run faster - but probably only the back end of the car, unless you swap in 240Z front brakes of course. Peace, Pat Thusly spake ppeters914@comcast.net: > Hmmmm.....excellent point, Craig. > > Why -WOULD- one replace the roadster drums with 240Z drums? Anyone? Bueller? > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "chalsted" > >> I'm not sure what the benefits of putting Z drums on our roadsters are but >> if it's a matter of not being able to find roadster drums, I have at least >> 10 pairs that have never even had a first cut done on them available... came >> from a racer who always replaced them with new, never turned them. finned >> ones, not the earlier ones although I have those also >> >> Craig >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 20:54:28 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] AIr flow - Datsun Just a comment on the science of flow, which is what I do. (Hydraulics and gas or air flow aren't very different) The secret to low pressure drop, which means the highest flow rate in a set system, it to not change velocity, and if you must, change it gradually. So when you port or or modify air flow in or out of your engine, to get the max flow you need to calculate the area of flow and keet it constant. For example, if you take a cross-sectional slice perpendicular to the direction of the flow path every 1/8" and calculate the area, it should not change. If it must, a reduction should be gradual, but may change fairly quickly. An expansion must be much, much more gradual. Otherwise, you get turbulance, and less flow. If you want to know the actual math, emal me off list. It requires a lot of math. In essence, the accelleration or decelleration must be constant. JimG ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 21:00:08 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:04:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few ...except that a common brake upgrade for the early 240Z's were Toyota 4Runner calipers...which is what Greg already has on his roadster (and Maxima vented rotors). Damn, we're back at the beginning! Betcha never saw that one comin', eh? Pete -----Original Message----- From: Pat Horne [mailto:roadsters@hornesystemstx.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:17 PM To: ppeters914@comcast.net Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few questions") Well, since a 240Z runs faster than our beloved Roadsters, maybe by adding their brake drums it will make our cars run faster - but probably only the back end of the car, unless you swap in 240Z front brakes of course. Peace, Pat Thusly spake ppeters914@comcast.net: > Hmmmm.....excellent point, Craig. > > Why -WOULD- one replace the roadster drums with 240Z drums? Anyone? > Bueller? > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "chalsted" > >> I'm not sure what the benefits of putting Z drums on our roadsters >> are but >> if it's a matter of not being able to find roadster drums, I have at least >> 10 pairs that have never even had a first cut done on them available... came >> from a racer who always replaced them with new, never turned them. finned >> ones, not the earlier ones although I have those also >> >> Craig >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 21:18:16 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:18:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few The roadster got finned aluminum drums starting in 67.5. Part No. 43206-25500 Anyone have a Z parts manual to compare? Pete -----Original Message----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net [mailto:gregs672liter@netzero.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:55 PM To: ppeters914@comcast.net Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few questions") My 67.5 has aluminum finned drums... are these the same or not? I'm confused! Greg -- ppeters914@comcast.net wrote: I did a quick Search in the 311s.org forums on "240Z drum*". Found 11 matches, but this should answer your basic question: "The Z drums will bolt right up with out any modifications using an adapter plate which contains the correct boss and counterbore on the backside. I'm going to get the pair of adapters machined on the lathe in the new year." Here's a link to a drawing of the adapter: Early roadsters had steel drums. To use the 240Z drums, you need to modify or replace the backing plates. Pete "no running roadster, but quick with Search!" [snip[ > Second, does anyone know if the rear aluminum drums are the same as on an > early 240Z? Saw some on Craigslist and thought about picking them up. > Thanks! > Greg Burrows You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _____________________________________________________________ Paying too much credit card interest? Find low APR credit cards. Click here. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 21:22:10 2008 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:15:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] NOWROC ISSUES NOWROC is down for a little bit. Thank a hosting service for the problem. I will try to get it back up tonight, or sometime tomorrow when the new DNS is recognized. Shasta is scheduled for July 12 as far as I know. The NOWROC Events page has links or phone numbers for most of the Motels in the area if you are wondering where to stay. I also have a caravan page that got started late last year, but if you send me your travel plans I will post them for others to see. Maybe we can build some nice caravans from wherever people are coming from. If you have not seen the events page there are links to the Iron Bottom and Run Forest Run near SF as well as other events on the left side of the continent. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 22:29:38 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:30:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? There are a couple of very good ones out there that come in both 185/60 and 195/60: Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Yokohama AVS ES100 Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of nmleeds@mindspring.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:22 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? I'm finally at the point where I'm about to upgrade from the "repair" tires that I bought on craigslist for $40 (performance specs: up and down the driveway; cornering: optional; road feel: space cadet) to a set of real tires. What do people like for a weekend driver? Fun on the roads, comfortable, and not bank-busting. Nathaniel Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 11 23:22:32 2008 From: "E Scanlon" To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:22:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few > The roadster got finned aluminum drums starting in 67.5. Part No. > 43206-25500 > > Anyone have a Z parts manual to compare? > > Pete > Z's P/N: 43206-E4100; REAR BRAKE DRUM E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 06:37:40 2008 From: Robert Keen To: nmleeds@mindspring.com Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? My wheels are stock. After some off-list discussions, I settled on size 175/70R14 tires. I happened to pick Sumitomo HTR 200's because I only drive the car in the summer, these have a good speed rating (not that I'd get close to their listed max), and they got good reviews at tirerack.com. Not only that, they were the least expensive in that size at that site. I ordered mine through my local dealer, and by the time we got through with shipping and installation they were rather more than the tirerack.com price. They perform much better than the 17-year-old tires they replaced, and to me their appearance on the car is fine. My speedometer readings are more accurate with them too. The tire shop seemed to have no difficulty in putting these tires on the wheels. This was my experience. Others on the list may have better recommendations based on more experience and knowledge. (I wrote the above 2.5 years ago in response to a similar question. I've found no reason to regret the decision. A couple of persons on the list have been pleased at least initally with their Sumitomo HTR 200's. YMMV) --Bob Upper Peninsula, Michigan '68 1600 (hiding behind a garage door with 4 feet of snow in front of it) ========================================= On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, nmleeds@mindspring.com wrote: > I'm finally at the point where I'm about to upgrade from > the "repair" tires that I bought on craigslist for $40 > (performance specs: up and down the driveway; cornering: > optional; road feel: space cadet) to a set of real tires. > > What do people like for a weekend driver? Fun on the roads, > comfortable, and not bank-busting. > > Nathaniel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 07:55:13 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? Any of you SoCal Roadster owners gonna rise to the bait on this one? I mean, sure, you all have been stealing water from Northern California for decades :^) , but it DOES rain in Southern California, sometimes pretty damned hard... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA dave wrote: If you live in SoCal or don't drive in the rain, get any type you like, rain isn't really an issue. Dave Brisco ECR ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 11:21:42 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:22:18 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few Guess that's why you need an adapter to use the Z drum on the roadster. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "E Scanlon" > > The roadster got finned aluminum drums starting in 67.5. Part No. > > 43206-25500 > > > > Anyone have a Z parts manual to compare? > > > > Pete > > > Z's P/N: 43206-E4100; REAR BRAKE DRUM > > E > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 11:38:31 2008 From: "Richard Brown" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:38:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U20 Head water passages Thanks for the replies. I am going to open the passages up. Richard ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 11:40:36 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:41:07 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply I thought SoCal stole most of their water from Utah and/or Colorado. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Gary McCormick > Any of you SoCal Roadster owners gonna rise to the bait on this one? I mean, > sure, you all have been stealing water from Northern California for decades :^) > , but it DOES rain in Southern California, sometimes pretty damned hard... > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > dave wrote: If you live in SoCal or don't > drive in the rain, get any type > you like, rain isn't really an issue. > > Dave Brisco > ECR > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 11:42:37 2008 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:43:08 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply All I can say is that L.A.'s going to make one great motorsports park once the water gets turned off. Nathaniel -----Original Message----- >From: ppeters914@comcast.net >Sent: Mar 12, 2008 10:41 AM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply > >I thought SoCal stole most of their water from Utah and/or Colorado. > >Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: Gary McCormick >> Any of you SoCal Roadster owners gonna rise to the bait on this one? I mean, >> sure, you all have been stealing water from Northern California for decades :^) >> , but it DOES rain in Southern California, sometimes pretty damned hard... >> >> Gary McCormick >> San Jose, CA >> >> dave wrote: If you live in SoCal or don't >> drive in the rain, get any type >> you like, rain isn't really an issue. >> >> Dave Brisco >> ECR >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as nmleeds@mindspring.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 11:46:45 2008 From: Tim To: nmleeds@mindspring.com, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:47:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply Amen Brother!! Tim--who grew up in NORTHERN California ---- nmleeds@mindspring.com wrote: ============= All I can say is that L.A.'s going to make one great motorsports park once the water gets turned off. Nathaniel -----Original Message----- >From: ppeters914@comcast.net >Sent: Mar 12, 2008 10:41 AM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply > >I thought SoCal stole most of their water from Utah and/or Colorado. > >Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 12:37:32 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply LA does get some of its water from the Colorado River - Mulholland looked east to the Colorado River after they had maxed out the Owens Valley and the Mono Lake watershed. Gary McCormick ppeters914@comcast.net wrote: I thought SoCal stole most of their water from Utah and/or Colorado. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Gary McCormick > Any of you SoCal Roadster owners gonna rise to the bait on this one? I mean, > sure, you all have been stealing water from Northern California for decades :^) > , but it DOES rain in Southern California, sometimes pretty damned hard... > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > dave wrote: If you live in SoCal or don't > drive in the rain, get any type > you like, rain isn't really an issue. > > Dave Brisco > ECR > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 15:04:56 2008 From: "Mike H." To: "Pete Peters" , Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:07:43 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few This subject came up at a good time for me. I need new ones and I'm thinking of going to these drums also. Does anyone have these adaptor plates already made up? I could consult my local machine shops to make them, but I thought I would check the list. Mike Hudson - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:03 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few questions") > I did a quick Search in the 311s.org forums on "240Z drum*". Found 11 matches, but this should answer your basic question: > > "The Z drums will bolt right up with out any modifications using an adapter plate which contains the correct boss and counterbore on the backside. I'm going to get the pair of adapters machined on the lathe in the new year." > > Here's a link to a drawing of the adapter: > > > > Early roadsters had steel drums. To use the 240Z drums, you need to modify or replace the backing plates. > > Pete "no running roadster, but quick with Search!" > [snip[ > > > Second, does anyone know if the rear aluminum drums are the same as on an > > early 240Z? Saw some on Craigslist and thought about picking them up. > > > Thanks! > > Greg Burrows ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 15:32:36 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:33:01 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] part number question Ebay item number 260218090356, the part number listed is 25057-12900. This is close to a tach cable part number but is not in my part catalog. Does any one know this number? TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 15:38:53 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:39:18 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few AFAIK, Ray (who provided the adapter drawings) is the only one who ever had the adapters made. You might want to PM Ray on 311s.org as I don't believe he's on the mailing list. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Mike H." > This subject came up at a good time for me. I need new ones and I'm thinking > of going to these > drums also. Does anyone have these adaptor plates already made up? I could > consult my local machine shops to make them, but I thought I would check the > list. > Mike Hudson - Stroker / 5-Speed > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:03 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few questions") > > > > I did a quick Search in the 311s.org forums on "240Z drum*". Found 11 > matches, but this should answer your basic question: > > > > "The Z drums will bolt right up with out any modifications using an > adapter plate which contains the correct boss and counterbore on the > backside. I'm going to get the pair of adapters machined on the lathe in the > new year." > > > > Here's a link to a drawing of the adapter: > > > > > > > > Early roadsters had steel drums. To use the 240Z drums, you need to modify > or replace the backing plates. > > > > Pete "no running roadster, but quick with Search!" > > [snip[ > > > > > Second, does anyone know if the rear aluminum drums are the same as on > an > > > early 240Z? Saw some on Craigslist and thought about picking them up. > > > > > Thanks! > > > Greg Burrows ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 16:21:53 2008 From: "Lars Tungen" To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:22:12 +0100 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] part number question --===============1644089739== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ebay item number 260218090356, the part number listed is > 25057-12900. This is close to a tach cable part number but is > not in my part catalog. This number is found in the Datsun Sports 1500 parts catalog (1965) and is listed to fit right hand drive cars (domestic & export). Left hand drive cars (SPL310) would use part no 25057-13000. I am not sure if this eBay part will fit in SP/SR 311 1600 & 2000 models, but I doubt it can be used in any of the 310/311 left hand drive cars. Lars Tungen Norway Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 11.03.2008 13:41 --===============1644089739== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --===============1644089739==-- From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 16:53:22 2008 From: "Al Boettcher" To: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:53:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Tires to use For the best driving on dry roads I am concidering the Falkans Azenis RT 615..they are one of the tires recommended for all the solo II drivers out there...great for track and the winding roads. Al Boettcher 68 solex ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 18:57:27 2008 From: "dave" To: , Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:57:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply I can send some water from over here in New Jersey..It's cool, if you turn off the lights it glows!! -----Original Message----- From: ppeters914@comcast.net [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:41 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply I thought SoCal stole most of their water from Utah and/or Colorado. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Gary McCormick > Any of you SoCal Roadster owners gonna rise to the bait on this one? I > mean, > sure, you all have been stealing water from Northern California for decades :^) > , but it DOES rain in Southern California, sometimes pretty damned hard... > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > dave wrote: If you live in SoCal or > don't > drive in the rain, get any type > you like, rain isn't really an issue. > > Dave Brisco > ECR > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 21:22:51 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: hahlbohmd@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:23:16 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A few questions In a message dated 3/11/2008 11:58:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hahlbohmd@earthlink.net writes: Keith, I am interested to see hinge straightening instructions, in addition to buying at least 4 hinge pins, maybe more. I do not want to be a hog, but if you have more than 4 available, I know my other roadster could probably stand an upgrade as well. Thanks, Dewey Hello Dewey and all the ships at sea, Figured I do this once and share. Hopefully the picture links don't get stripped out. First remove the hinge. Take two mounting bolts and two flat washers. _http://members.aol.com/keith0alan/images/h1.jpg_ (http://members.aol.com/keith0alan/images/h1.jpg) Insert the bolts and washers into a couple of the holes. _http://members.aol.com/keith0alan/images/h2.jpg_ (http://members.aol.com/keith0alan/images/h2.jpg) Close the hinge. The two plates should be parallel. If not your hinge is bent. _http://members.aol.com/keith0alan/images/h3.jpg_ (http://members.aol.com/keith0alan/images/h3.jpg) To straighten them I put the bolts and washers in the short side holes farthest from the hinge pin. Then squeeze in a vice. Don't squeeze tight. Take an oxy/acetylene torch and heat where the hinge loops are welded to the plate. You should be able to see the side that is bent. Once it gets red slowly squeeze till the plates come into parallel. If you don't heat the hinge where you want it to bend it will bend where you don't want it to bend. _http://members.aol.com/keith0alan/images/h4.jpg_ (http://members.aol.com/keith0alan/images/h4.jpg) Let it air cool. If you pitch it in water when it's red hot it will get brittle. Once it's straight reinstall using a bolts and lock washers only. If you put a flat washer in there also the hinge will bend the first time you close the door. When you get the hinge out it will be obvious if the pin is worn out. To remove the pin soak it in penetrating oil then press it out. One end is splined and you need to press the other end. If you try to hammer it out the end tends to mushroom. This makes it very hard to get out and in the process you stretch out the loops and the new pin will be loose. Then we get to talk about torch and hammer shrinking followed by reaming. I had some pins made a while back and still have several sets. Having stuff like this made in relatively small lots is kind of pricey. The pins are $40 for a set of 4. That price includes postage. keith **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 21:24:15 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:29:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply Remember, that's a feature, not a bug! -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:daveandlindab@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:57 PM To: ppeters914@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply I can send some water from over here in New Jersey..It's cool, if you turn off the lights it glows!! -----Original Message----- From: ppeters914@comcast.net [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:41 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply I thought SoCal stole most of their water from Utah and/or Colorado. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Gary McCormick > Any of you SoCal Roadster owners gonna rise to the bait on this one? I > mean, > sure, you all have been stealing water from Northern California for decades :^) > , but it DOES rain in Southern California, sometimes pretty damned > hard... > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > dave wrote: If you live in SoCal or > don't > drive in the rain, get any type > you like, rain isn't really an issue. > > Dave Brisco > ECR > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 21:36:31 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:41:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? The Yoko's have a bitchin' tread: Another hot one is the Falken Azeni RT-215 (and lower price than the Yoko's): Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:30 PM To: nmleeds@mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? There are a couple of very good ones out there that come in both 185/60 and 195/60: Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Yokohama AVS ES100 Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of nmleeds@mindspring.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:22 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? I'm finally at the point where I'm about to upgrade from the "repair" tires that I bought on craigslist for $40 (performance specs: up and down the driveway; cornering: optional; road feel: space cadet) to a set of real tires. What do people like for a weekend driver? Fun on the roads, comfortable, and not bank-busting. Nathaniel Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 21:41:53 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:42:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Today, March 12, I received a couple of messages posted 3/10, and about 25 posted 3/11. I routinely get messages posted to the list 4 or 5 days after posting. Many time I see replies before I see the original message. I have no idea what is going on, but I am confident it is an artifact of the list's server, because I have no such problems with messages from other sources. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > this is a test..... this is only a test.... > > if this had been an actual message to the list from me, you would see me > jumping up and down for joy at havingh succeeded at posting to the list > finally...... > > for about 4 days, nothing i send actually makes it to the list. > anyone else? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 21:52:03 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:57:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list That's a feature, not a bug! Seriously, there is some quirky behavior depending on how large your email is, whether it's an original post, reply, or forward; whether the list address is on the TO: or CC: or BCC:; and whether other addresses are included. The delay crap I usually only see from Yahoo Group lists, but not recently. Hard to blame the list server if it's only a couple-three folks having the problem. Now, if it was several dozen..... Pete "have you flushed your DNS cache lately?" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:42 PM To: d-solomon@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Today, March 12, I received a couple of messages posted 3/10, and about 25 posted 3/11. I routinely get messages posted to the list 4 or 5 days after posting. Many time I see replies before I see the original message. I have no idea what is going on, but I am confident it is an artifact of the list's server, because I have no such problems with messages from other sources. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > this is a test..... this is only a test.... > > if this had been an actual message to the list from me, you would see > me > jumping up and down for joy at havingh succeeded at posting to the list > finally...... > > for about 4 days, nothing i send actually makes it to the list. anyone > else? ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 23:29:41 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Pete Peters'" , Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:29:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? Nathaniel mentioned to mein an email he was running stock steel wheels,I don't know exactly how that affects size, but limits it to 175/70-14, or in that neighborhood,doesn't it? Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:41 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? The Yoko's have a bitchin' tread: Another hot one is the Falken Azeni RT-215 (and lower price than the Yoko's): Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:30 PM To: nmleeds@mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? There are a couple of very good ones out there that come in both 185/60 and 195/60: Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Yokohama AVS ES100 Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of nmleeds@mindspring.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:22 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? I'm finally at the point where I'm about to upgrade from the "repair" tires that I bought on craigslist for $40 (performance specs: up and down the driveway; cornering: optional; road feel: space cadet) to a set of real tires. What do people like for a weekend driver? Fun on the roads, comfortable, and not bank-busting. Nathaniel Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 12 23:45:31 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "dave" , , Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:46:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply Your water glows? You must live near one of them there nukuler plants at Oyster Creek or Hancock's Bridge (Salem and Hope Creek). Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply >I can send some water from over here in New Jersey..It's cool, if you turn > off the lights it glows!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: ppeters914@comcast.net [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:41 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply > > > I thought SoCal stole most of their water from Utah and/or Colorado. > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Gary McCormick >> Any of you SoCal Roadster owners gonna rise to the bait on this one? I >> mean, >> sure, you all have been stealing water from Northern California for > decades :^) >> , but it DOES rain in Southern California, sometimes pretty damned >> hard... >> >> Gary McCormick >> San Jose, CA >> >> dave wrote: If you live in SoCal or >> don't >> drive in the rain, get any type >> you like, rain isn't really an issue. >> >> Dave Brisco >> ECR >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 01:36:59 2008 From: "DatsunSPL" To: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:37:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Box Hey all, My random lane-changes on the freeway tell me it's time to repair or replace the steering box on my '68 1600. Any removal tips or tricks that would be good to know? How much stuff do I need to pull off to get at the box? Thanx in advance, Paul ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 01:53:01 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'DatsunSPL'" , Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:23:26 +1030 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering Box --===============1004634365== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you attempted to adjust the slack out of the 'box to see if that solves the problem? The idler may also have slack in it. Get the front wheels off the deck and observe all the round and round/up and down bits while someone turns the wheel from lock to lock. Then of course there are 6 ball joints that may be contributing to any vagueness. Removal is reasonably easy but you will need a Pitman Arm remover to get the steering and idler arms off their respective devices and a good quality Ball Joint remover to, you know, remove the ball joints ;) "My random lane-changes on the freeway tell me it's time to repair or replace the steering box on my '68 1600. Any removal tips or tricks that would be good to know? How much stuff do I need to pull off to get at the box? Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 12/03/2008 1:27 PM --===============1004634365== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --===============1004634365==-- From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 04:15:46 2008 From: aiken1315@bellsouth.net To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'Tim'" , Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:15:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports--May issue Received mine yesterday and that is me behind Mike. Paul - you know the car well the way you described the dash!! I was expecting a close up shot of it. David -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> > > Got mine late last week. Remember, most magazines ship an issue as it is > printed so they don't get across the country on the same day. > > But hang in there, Classic is worth the wait! > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:49 PM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Classic Motorsports--May issue > > has any one out there received theirs yet? I am referring to your > subscription, not a newstand purchase. > > thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aiken1315@bellsouth.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 06:54:25 2008 From: d-solomon@comcast.net To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" , Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:54:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list i had a similar scene on tuesday this week. In the 20 minute period between when I left work and when I got home, somehow I'd rec'd 18 messages from the list, all with relatively old dates and timestamps on them. This after seeing only 4 or 5 messages from the list all day long. of course.... since i doubt this reply will make it to the list... none of you will know about it.... Dan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > Today, March 12, I received a couple of messages posted 3/10, and about 25 > posted 3/11. I routinely get messages posted to the list 4 or 5 days after > posting. Many time I see replies before I see the original message. I have > no idea what is going on, but I am confident it is an artifact of the list's > server, because I have no such problems with messages from other sources. > > Gary Ault > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:52 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > > > > this is a test..... this is only a test.... > > > > if this had been an actual message to the list from me, you would see me > > jumping up and down for joy at havingh succeeded at posting to the list > > finally...... > > > > for about 4 days, nothing i send actually makes it to the list. > > anyone else? > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 07:17:57 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:18:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I can't for the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for me to receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen on their cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 07:28:00 2008 From: "Mike H." To: "chalsted" , Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:32:38 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Yes, I get that all the time. I carry my cell with me incessantly, days go by without incoming calls, then all of a sudden I'll get "missed calls" and "messages" indicators. It's really annoying. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "chalsted" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I can't for > the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for me to > receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen on their > cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... > > Craig > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 07:38:03 2008 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: "Mike H." , "chalsted" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:38:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list I talked to a guy in the cell phone industry - hardware type. He said they are having major problems with system overload. The industry is in its infancy and they need a major break-through in technology very bad or the system will start having a lot of failures. Also things like the signal strength of cell phones varies between manufactures and phone type. This causes a "switching" issue between carriers and hardware - the most noticeable indication is the lag of signal which will get worse. Geez, you got to love old Roadster technology! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike H. Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:33 AM To: chalsted; d-solomon@comcast.net Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Yes, I get that all the time. I carry my cell with me incessantly, days go by without incoming calls, then all of a sudden I'll get "missed calls" and "messages" indicators. It's really annoying. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "chalsted" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I can't for > the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for me to > receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen on their > cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... > > Craig > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Su ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 07:57:20 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:57:41 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] List quirks... On the cell phone issue, most phone services search for your device, and if at that exact milli-second moment there is a dead zone in service, it goes immediately to voice mail. It happens within the buildings here at work (to the work cell phones), quite often. Happens most often, I have noticed, in the Structures Test Lab that has huge steel and concrete framework all over the place. (structural airframe tests of an A-10 Warthog and a E2C or D Prowler going on at the moment, you should hear the creakin' and groanin' going on! The forces put on an A-10 airframe by the gunblast alone is stunning, akin to that "chain-the-rearend of the cop car to the drive-in movie post" scene from American Graffiti) On the list delivery quirks, I get the digest version, and it is most intriguing to get folks answers prior to the questions, especially when they, (thanks for this) delete all but the relevant text of the original e-mail. An example of this is Jim Gammons very illustrative and learned answering comment on gas flow 2-3 days ago, which I have yet to see the question posed. Kinda like playing tennis in pea-soup fog! (ya hit balls, and one out of every 30 times you hear "Ouch!") Fergus (I know, that last analogy illustrates that the Stockton, Ca was not exactly the hot bed of entertainment opportunities in my early years) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 08:18:21 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: "Mike H." Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Let me guess, Verizon/ATT. I had that too. Messages as much as 26 hours late. I went to Cingular, problem went away. Then ATT bought them, but not Verizon. No problems, yet. Jim "Mike H." wrote: Yes, I get that all the time. I carry my cell with me incessantly, days go by without incoming calls, then all of a sudden I'll get "missed calls" and "messages" indicators. It's really annoying. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "chalsted" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I can't for > the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for me to > receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen on their > cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... > > Craig > ________________________________________ You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 08:41:35 2008 From: "Mike H." To: Jim Gammon Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:42:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Yep! You guessed it! Verizon/ATT. Mike H. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Gammon Sent: Mar 13, 2008 8:18 AM To: "Mike H." Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Let me guess, Verizon/ATT. I had that too. Messages as much as 26 hours late. I went to Cingular, problem went away. Then ATT bought them, but not Verizon. No problems, yet. Jim "Mike H." wrote: Yes, I get that all the time. I carry my cell with me incessantly, days go by without incoming calls, then all of a sudden I'll get "missed calls" and "messages" indicators. It's really annoying. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "chalsted" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I can't for > the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for me to > receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen on their > cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... > > Craig > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 09:16:00 2008 From: Tim To: "O'Farrell, Fergus" , Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 8:12:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] List quirks... Fergus thusly spake: Fergus (I know, that last analogy illustrates that the Stockton, Ca was not exactly the hot bed of entertainment opportunities in my early years) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You think Stockton is bad? Try growing up in Yuba City!! it's just a flesh wound, I've 'ad worse. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 09:24:29 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Mike H." , "Pete Peters" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:25:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few Most Speed Shops sell what you need. They are known as a wheel spacers or wheel adapters. The advantage of wheel adapters is you can actually change the bolt pattern to fit those wheels you found on e-bay, but don't fit the Datsun bolt pattern. Check out these links to the Jegs website.. Baer Brake http://www.jegs.com/p/Baer+Brake/759919/10002/-1/11611 Jegs http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/957104/10002/-1/11611 Mr Gasket http://www.jegs.com/p/Mr.+Gasket/748902/10002/-1/11611 Cragar http://www.jegs.com/p/Cragar/762802/10002/-1/11611 Trans Dapt http://www.jegs.com/p/Trans+Dapt/811892/10002/-1/11611 No need to re-invent the wheel so to speak. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike H." To: "Pete Peters" ; Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few questions") > This subject came up at a good time for me. I need new ones and I'm > thinking > of going to these > drums also. Does anyone have these adaptor plates already made up? I could > consult my local machine shops to make them, but I thought I would check > the > list. > Mike Hudson - Stroker / 5-Speed > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:03 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] 240Z rear brake drums fit? (was "Re: A few > questions") > > >> I did a quick Search in the 311s.org forums on "240Z drum*". Found 11 > matches, but this should answer your basic question: >> >> "The Z drums will bolt right up with out any modifications using an > adapter plate which contains the correct boss and counterbore on the > backside. I'm going to get the pair of adapters machined on the lathe in > the > new year." >> >> Here's a link to a drawing of the adapter: >> >> >> >> Early roadsters had steel drums. To use the 240Z drums, you need to >> modify > or replace the backing plates. >> >> Pete "no running roadster, but quick with Search!" >> [snip[ >> >> > Second, does anyone know if the rear aluminum drums are the same as on > an >> > early 240Z? Saw some on Craigslist and thought about picking them up. >> >> > Thanks! >> > Greg Burrows > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 09:48:19 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" , "dave" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:48:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply You should bottle it and sell it as Glo-Sticks. But since I gave you the idea, I want 25% of the Gross. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "dave" ; ; Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply > Your water glows? You must live near one of them there nukuler plants at > Oyster Creek or Hancock's Bridge (Salem and Hope Creek). > > Gary Ault > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave" > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply > > >>I can send some water from over here in New Jersey..It's cool, if you turn >> off the lights it glows!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ppeters914@comcast.net [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:41 PM >> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] OT: SoCal water supply >> >> >> I thought SoCal stole most of their water from Utah and/or Colorado. >> >> Pete >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: Gary McCormick >>> Any of you SoCal Roadster owners gonna rise to the bait on this one? I >>> mean, >>> sure, you all have been stealing water from Northern California for >> decades :^) >>> , but it DOES rain in Southern California, sometimes pretty damned >>> hard... >>> >>> Gary McCormick >>> San Jose, CA >>> >>> dave wrote: If you live in SoCal or >>> don't >>> drive in the rain, get any type >>> you like, rain isn't really an issue. >>> >>> Dave Brisco >>> ECR >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 10:14:16 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "Pete Peters" , Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:08:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? Too bad they've been sold out for at least a year. Much less expensive than the RT-615's Steve 70' 1600 storage bin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? > > Another hot one is the Falken Azeni RT-215 (and lower price than the > Yoko's): > > > > Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 10:48:18 2008 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:49:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] behind grille color In painting the area behind the grille, I have been told that it was black from the factory. I just finished doing that, but an wondering if the entire area is black, or is some of it in body color. I posted two new pics of work here. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2360434560048273787TWSHII?vhost=rides SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 11:01:10 2008 From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, wycroc@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:01:16 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone done a conversion from early roadster brakes I am looking to convert a '64 body brake master cylinder over to the late model dual brake master cylinder system. Has anyone in the group done this and have the dimensions of the inserted box in the firewall as well as the swing arm mounting brackets inside the car back side of the firewall. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-300161C 1963 SPL310-300289B 1964 SPL310-01289 1970 SRL311-12536 1970 SPL311-28169 **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 11:13:25 2008 From: michaelspreadbury@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:13:14 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anyone done a conversion from early roadster brakes Hi Gary, I did this conversion a few years ago on a 1967 Datsun roadster using the pocket and pedal assembly out of a 67.5. Before photo: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3143/medium/8Brake_area_before.jpg The area that was being cut out was carefully measured (not to interfere with the strengthing ribs in on the top) and was cut away with a plasma cutter: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3143/8Cutting_the_hole.jpg Note: This car was converted to an automatic, so the pocket was moved over a little more to eliminate the clutch pedal! The pocket was then welded in: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3143/8Brake_Pocket_Rough_In.jpg The welds were ground down and a couple firewall braces were added: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3143/8Brake_Pocket_with_first_brace.jpg And finally, a shot of the pocket all finished and painted: http://datsun510.com/photopost/data/3143/8Brake_Pocket_1.jpg 99% of the people who look at the car never realize that it was converted! Hope that helps, Michael Spreadbury spriso motorsports 1966 Datsun Roadster (SR20DE power) 1964 Datsun 1500 Roadster project -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com > I am looking to convert a '64 body brake master cylinder over to the late > model dual brake master cylinder system. Has anyone in the group done this and > have the dimensions of the inserted box in the firewall as well as the swing > arm mounting brackets inside the car back side of the firewall. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 11:13:41 2008 From: cwphotoguy@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:13:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 510 wagon I thought you guys might get a kick out of who's using a wagon on their new album cover............hmmm, I've never seen a more unlikely combo. Here's a link; http://grandjdm.com/2008/02/10/snoop-dogg-and-the-datsun-510s/ ?Cory Warner ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 11:25:04 2008 From: Tim To: cwphotoguy@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:25:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 510 wagon It's like Deja Vu all over again -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- cwphotoguy@aol.com wrote: ============= I thought you guys might get a kick out of who's using a wagon on their new album cover............hmmm, I've never seen a more unlikely combo. Here's a link; http://grandjdm.com/2008/02/10/snoop-dogg-and-the-datsun-510s/ ?Cory Warner ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 12:57:06 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:57:27 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? Ahhhhhhh, yes, but I think it's 185/70-14. You can mount bigger tires, but I don't believe it's safe as the tire manufacturer will specify a wider rim than the stock steelie wheelie. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "dave" > Nathaniel mentioned to mein an email he was running stock steel wheels,I > don't know exactly how that affects size, but limits it to 175/70-14, or in > that neighborhood,doesn't it? > > Dave Brisco > ECR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:41 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? > > > The Yoko's have a bitchin' tread: > > > > Another hot one is the Falken Azeni RT-215 (and lower price than the > Yoko's): > > > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:30 PM > To: nmleeds@mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? > > > There are a couple of very good ones out there that come in both 185/60 and > 195/60: > > Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS > Yokohama AVS ES100 > > Gordon Glasgow > Renton, WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of nmleeds@mindspring.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:22 AM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? > > I'm finally at the point where I'm about to upgrade from the "repair" tires > that I bought on craigslist for $40 (performance specs: up and down the > driveway; cornering: optional; road feel: space cadet) to a set of real > tires. > > What do people like for a weekend driver? Fun on the roads, comfortable, and > not bank-busting. > > Nathaniel > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 13:19:10 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:19:45 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Happened to me once. Don't understand it either. Just chalk it up to the computer/internet/cellphone gremlins. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "chalsted" > I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I can't for > the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for me to > receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen on their > cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 13:21:14 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:21:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list That's a feature, not a bug! Seriously, who's your carrier and what model phone? Maybe everyone with the problem is with the same carrier. Pete "who started with Air Touch" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Mike H." > Yes, I get that all the time. I carry my cell with me incessantly, days go > by without incoming calls, then all of a sudden I'll get "missed calls" and > "messages" indicators. It's really annoying. > Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "chalsted" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > > > > I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I can't > for > > the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for me to > > receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen on their > > cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... > > > > Craig > > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 13:33:33 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:33:59 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Cellphone chat (was something else) Waitaminute....it's either Verizon -OR- ATT aka Cingular aka the New AT&T. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Mike H." > Yep! You guessed it! > > Verizon/ATT. > > Mike H. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Gammon > Sent: Mar 13, 2008 8:18 AM > To: "Mike H." > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > > Let me guess, Verizon/ATT. > > I had that too. Messages as much as 26 hours late. > > I went to Cingular, problem went away. Then ATT bought them, but not > Verizon. No problems, yet. > > Jim > "Mike H." wrote: > > Yes, I get that all the time. I carry my cell with me incessantly, > days go > by without incoming calls, then all of a sudden I'll get "missed > calls" and > "messages" indicators. It's really annoying. > Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "chalsted" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > > I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I > can't > for > > the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for > me to > > receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen > on their > > cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... > > > > Craig > > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 13:43:09 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:43:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anyone done a conversion from early roadster brakes Michael, I'd almost venture that most people never realize your SR20 conversions ain't stock, lol. Pete "clean weld envy" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: michaelspreadbury@comcast.net > > 99% of the people who look at the car never realize that it was converted! > > Hope that helps, > > Michael Spreadbury > spriso motorsports > > 1966 Datsun Roadster (SR20DE power) > 1964 Datsun 1500 Roadster project > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com > > I am looking to convert a '64 body brake master cylinder over to the late > > model dual brake master cylinder system. Has anyone in the group done this > and > > have the dimensions of the inserted box in the firewall as well as the swing > > arm mounting brackets inside the car back side of the firewall. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 14:00:20 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:00:43 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? Well.....poop! I didn't realize that. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Stephen Wan" > Too bad they've been sold out for at least a year. > Much less expensive than the RT-615's > > Steve > 70' 1600 storage bin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:41 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What tires do people like? > > > > > > Another hot one is the Falken Azeni RT-215 (and lower price than the > > Yoko's): > > > > > > > > Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 15:24:12 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'JohnnyRoadster'" , Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:49:42 +1030 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] behind grille color --===============0717486931== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looking at your pic. I reckon you have it done correctly. It matches what I remember my SP310 looked like when I stripped it down. Mine was pretty dull so I'm guessing it should be satin at least but not high gloss[??] FWIW "In painting the area behind the grille, I have been told that it was black from the factory. I just finished doing that, but an wondering if the entire area is black, or is some of it in body color." Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 12/03/2008 1:27 PM --===============0717486931== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --===============0717486931==-- From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 17:27:37 2008 From: jrdmf@aol.com To: JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:27:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] behind grille color I?prefer not to see?any color through the grill either so?I like the?way you have done it but If you are?trying to make it look factory then here's?the scoop.? I have two original "never painted" cars and both of them have the face of the area directly behind the grill painted black. (But the top of the front rail is?still the same color as the car.)?The two bars that are removeable are also painted black but eveything else under the hood and behind the grill is the same color as the car. (Including the the area where the horns mount etc.) It actually looks like someone painted the blacked out?sections with a brush and I have heard others with original paint jobs say theirs looks like that too? Just make it easy on yourself and paint the whole car black? :-) Hope this helps? Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: JohnnyRoadster To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 9:49 am Subject: [Roadsters] behind grille color In painting the area behind the grille, I have been told that it was black from the factory. I just finished doing that, but an wondering if the entire area is black, or is some of it in body color. I posted two new pics of work here. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2360434560048273787TWSHII?vhost=rides SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster You are subscribed as jrdmf@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 18:35:56 2008 From: "dave" To: "'O'Farrell, Fergus'" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:36:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] List quirks... You mean quotes out of context that lose the original subject? Such as Fergus wrote:..."ya hit balls, and one out of every 30 times you hear "Ouch!" I think the percentage would be A LOT higher Subject: [Roadsters] List quirks... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 18:42:38 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Jim Gammon'" , "'Mike H.'" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:42:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list My record for a delayed message is almost 3 weeks. Love that Verizon. We've learned to check the date, saved a few red faces going out to fix stuff that was done 2 weeks ago. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jim Gammon [mailto:gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:19 AM To: Mike H. Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Let me guess, Verizon/ATT. I had that too. Messages as much as 26 hours late. I went to Cingular, problem went away. Then ATT bought them, but not Verizon. No problems, yet. Jim "Mike H." wrote: Yes, I get that all the time. I carry my cell with me incessantly, days go by without incoming calls, then all of a sudden I'll get "missed calls" and "messages" indicators. It's really annoying. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "chalsted" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I can't for > the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for me to > receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen on > their cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... > > Craig > ________________________________________ You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 18:51:38 2008 From: Erik Miller To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Stock steelies A good option for people who want to keep the stock wheel, but run a wider tire, is having the steelies widened. Plenty of wheel shops, like Stockton Wheel near the SF Bay Area, can do this, plus make custom offsets, powdercoating, etc. Erik Miller 1970 SPL311-29945 --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 21:51:21 2008 From: Leigh Brooks To: Datsun list Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:50:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stock steelies You could also take the later Z steelies and have some hubcap tabs welded on. They are 1/2" wider. Leigh Brooks On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Erik Miller wrote: > A good option for people who want to keep the stock wheel, but run > a wider tire, is having the steelies widened. Plenty of wheel > shops, like Stockton Wheel near the SF Bay Area, can do this, plus > make custom offsets, powdercoating, etc. > > > Erik Miller > 1970 SPL311-29945 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 21:52:07 2008 From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:52:26 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] WANTED: The firewall pocket for brake master cylinder Anyone out there cutting up a late model body that could spare the dual master brake cylinder firewall pocket? Upgrading my early roadster and needing the firewall pocket (easier to have an existing cutout than trying to fabricate one). Let me know. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 22:22:36 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "chalsted" , Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:22:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Craig, I hate to tell you this, but that is what sometimes happens when the FBI or CIA has a tap on your lines. What have you been up to boy? Better watch out, or you'll find yourself charged with conspiracy to supplant MG, Triumph and Austin Healy as the premier sports cars in the US. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "chalsted" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list >I can see a day or two if there are equipment malfunctions but I can't for > the life of me understand why it's taken as long as 13 days for me to > receive a message on my cell phone....anyone else had this happen on their > cell phones? just doesn't make any sense to me... > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 22:30:51 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:31:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list C'mon. You're just messin' with him, right? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > Hey, anyone know what's up with d-solomon? Haven't seen any posts from in > about 4 days. > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: d-solomon@comcast.net >> this is a test..... this is only a test.... >> >> if this had been an actual message to the list from me, you would see me >> jumping >> up and down for joy at havingh succeeded at posting to the list >> finally...... >> >> for about 4 days, nothing i send actually makes it to the list. >> anyone else? >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 22:36:22 2008 From: Daniel Solomon To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:35:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list hahaha.... very funny guys..... :-) :-) thanks for the chuckle..... I got kicked in the junk (figuratively speaking) at work today, and I needed that! Thanks. Dan Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > C'mon. You're just messin' with him, right? > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > > > >> Hey, anyone know what's up with d-solomon? Haven't seen any posts from in >> about 4 days. >> >> Pete >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: d-solomon@comcast.net >> >>> this is a test..... this is only a test.... >>> >>> if this had been an actual message to the list from me, you would see me >>> jumping >>> up and down for joy at havingh succeeded at posting to the list >>> finally...... >>> >>> for about 4 days, nothing i send actually makes it to the list. >>> anyone else? >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >>> >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 22:36:46 2008 From: Daniel Solomon To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:37:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list hahaha.... very funny guys..... :-) :-) thanks for the chuckle..... I got kicked in the junk (figuratively speaking) at work today, and I needed that! Thanks. Dan Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > C'mon. You're just messin' with him, right? > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > > > >> Hey, anyone know what's up with d-solomon? Haven't seen any posts from in >> about 4 days. >> >> Pete >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: d-solomon@comcast.net >> >>> this is a test..... this is only a test.... >>> >>> if this had been an actual message to the list from me, you would see me >>> jumping >>> up and down for joy at havingh succeeded at posting to the list >>> finally...... >>> >>> for about 4 days, nothing i send actually makes it to the list. >>> anyone else? >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >>> >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 23:18:53 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Richard Bush" , "Matt Jacquet" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:19:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311 Rick, I recently bought a '67-1/2 2000 which has no radio. Until I find an original, I plan to put something compatible in the car. I searched the web, and found www.vintagecarradio.com. Talk with Brad at (877) 331-9560. He's very helpful. They will build a a modern, digital radio AM-FM (no cassette or CD) which looks analog within certain dimensional parameters. Turns out their chassis dimensions will work just fine with low-windshield cars -- both with respect to size and knob spacing. $170.00. I suspect they can make one for the high-windshield cars, also. Check them out. I haven't bought one yet, but I intend to. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Bush" To: "Matt Jacquet" ; Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 311 > Good morning to all. > > Does anyone know of a good car audio website that is able to determine > model > compatibility? > > Any input would be most appreciated. > > Rick > > > > On 11/3/08 19:28, "Matt Jacquet" wrote: > >> Happy 311 :) >> >> Do something Roadster toady. >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as rabush2000@hotmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > > R A Bush > P O Box 500003 > Dubai, UAE > Home: 971 4 344 0631 > Mobile: 971 50 456 4357 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 13 23:52:15 2008 From: Leigh Brooks To: Datsun list Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:52:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] radio I'm not sure I shared this with the list, but I adapted a later Datsun/Clarion radio for mp3 input. http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php? n=TechSection.MP3ForDatsunClarion Leigh Brooks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 08:50:16 2008 From: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports To: Leigh Brooks Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:50:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stock steelies We have sets of 6 inch steel wheels made locally. Not cheap but for BC owners wanting collector plate insurance well worth it as you save the cost of the wheels for the first years insurance. We have a set available. offset is different from front to back. Ross sports imports On 13-Mar-08, at 8:50 PM, Leigh Brooks wrote: > You could also take the later Z steelies and have some hubcap tabs > welded on. > > They are 1/2" wider. > > Leigh Brooks > > > On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Erik Miller wrote: > >> A good option for people who want to keep the stock wheel, but run >> a wider tire, is having the steelies widened. Plenty of wheel >> shops, like Stockton Wheel near the SF Bay Area, can do this, plus >> make custom offsets, powdercoating, etc. >> >> >> Erik Miller >> 1970 SPL311-29945 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as info@sportsimports.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 13:18:54 2008 From: "E Scanlon" To: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:19:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stock steelies Ross: On behalf of those of us who don't understand the relation between collector plate insurance and wheels could you elaborate? I understood the main intent of the discussion was how to have wider tires while still maintaining the original look including the hub caps. Which, due to the various logistical problems in obtaining tires, makes sense. Someone please correct me if I've misunderstood. (Question, now that 14" tires are becoming passi and 15" and higher becoming more common, any thoughts on what to do? Or do we start stock-pilng tires?) E > We have sets of 6 inch steel wheels made locally. Not cheap but for > BC owners wanting collector plate insurance well worth it as you save > the cost of the wheels for the first years insurance. We have a set > available. offset is different from front to back. > > Ross > sports imports ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 13:54:51 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:54:48 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list Yup. I say, that's a joke, son. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > C'mon. You're just messin' with him, right? > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list > > > > Hey, anyone know what's up with d-solomon? Haven't seen any posts from in > > about 4 days. > > > > Pete > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: d-solomon@comcast.net > >> this is a test..... this is only a test.... > >> > >> if this had been an actual message to the list from me, you would see me > >> jumping > >> up and down for joy at havingh succeeded at posting to the list > >> finally...... > >> > >> for about 4 days, nothing i send actually makes it to the list. > >> anyone else? > >> ________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > >> > >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 13:55:10 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:55:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wider Wheels/Tires Just a word of caution: Unless you've flared your fenders, particularly in the back, tires that are much wider than stock can produce sudden and loud noises when cornering and on less than smooth roads. It was merely annoying to me but kind of scared the heck out of my wife (which could be really loud...both the tires and my wife); making sunny drives not as fun as they could/should be. Trading out my wife wasn't an option so I traded out the tires and wheels instead. Hope this helps, Greg SRL31100494 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 14:04:00 2008 From: RWM To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:04:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wider Wheels/Tires Generally good advice, but that said, I find that with proper offset (don't ask, I don't remember), 205/60-14 Bridgestone RE71s on 7" alloys fit just fine... - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex, RE71s front 195/55-14 and rear 206/60-14 Gregory S. Morrison wrote: >Just a word of caution: Unless you've flared your fenders, particularly in >the back, tires that are much wider than stock can produce sudden and loud >noises when cornering and on less than smooth roads. It was merely annoying >to me but kind of scared the heck out of my wife (which could be really >loud...both the tires and my wife); making sunny drives not as fun as they >could/should be. Trading out my wife wasn't an option so I traded out the >tires and wheels instead. > >Hope this helps, >Greg >SRL31100494 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 14:04:42 2008 From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com To: gsm@gregorysmorrison.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:04:57 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wider Wheels/Tires A couple years back, I took my stock 14" rims, had them separated and the inside brass coated and outside chromed and then had them rewelded back with about an additional 1/2" inset and they looked and handled great. Had stock baby moon hubcaps to finish off the look. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 In a message dated 3/14/2008 1:56:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, gsm@gregorysmorrison.com writes: Just a word of caution: Unless you've flared your fenders, particularly in the back, tires that are much wider than stock can produce sudden and loud noises when cornering and on less than smooth roads. It was merely annoying to me but kind of scared the heck out of my wife (which could be really loud...both the tires and my wife); making sunny drives not as fun as they could/should be. Trading out my wife wasn't an option so I traded out the tires and wheels instead. Hope this helps, Greg SRL31100494 You are subscribed as barterdude@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 14:15:12 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:15:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wider Wheels/Tires Pics! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com > A couple years back, I took my stock 14" rims, had them separated and the > inside brass coated and outside chromed and then had them rewelded back with > about an additional 1/2" inset and they looked and handled great. Had stock > baby moon hubcaps to finish off the look. > > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) > 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) > 1970 SPL311-28169 > > > > In a message dated 3/14/2008 1:56:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > gsm@gregorysmorrison.com writes: > > Just a word of caution: Unless you've flared your fenders, particularly in > the back, tires that are much wider than stock can produce sudden and loud > noises when cornering and on less than smooth roads. It was merely annoying > to me but kind of scared the heck out of my wife (which could be really > loud...both the tires and my wife); making sunny drives not as fun as they > could/should be. Trading out my wife wasn't an option so I traded out the > tires and wheels instead. > > Hope this helps, > Greg > SRL31100494 > You are subscribed as barterdude@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 15:08:51 2008 From: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports To: "E Scanlon" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:09:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stock steelies In British Columbia we have a choice in how to insure your collector car. regular insurance that enables you to drive to work or school or collector car insurance that has limitations like not for work or school. Collector car insurance is not available to cars that have been modified with after market wheels. Many of our customers wanted to keep their collector plate insurance and yet still wanted a wider tire without changing the appearance of the rims. they were able to keep the stock look of a steel wheel with hub cap and still fit a 195-60 14 or even a 205-60 14 without having to pay more for yearly insurance. the cost of the rim widening was ~$150 per wheel and then paint or powder coat on top. The wider steel wheel allows for stock appearance and eligibility for collector insurance. Sorry for not being more clear at the outset. I hope this answers the questions. Ross sports imports On 14-Mar-08, at 12:19 PM, E Scanlon wrote: > Ross: > On behalf of those of us who don't understand the relation between > collector plate insurance and wheels could you elaborate? > > I understood the main intent of the discussion was how to have > wider tires while still maintaining the original look including the > hub caps. > Which, due to the various logistical problems in obtaining tires, > makes sense. > > Someone please correct me if I've misunderstood. > > (Question, now that 14" tires are becoming passi and 15" and higher > becoming more common, any thoughts on what to do? Or do we start > stock-pilng tires?) > > E > > >> We have sets of 6 inch steel wheels made locally. Not cheap but for >> BC owners wanting collector plate insurance well worth it as you save >> the cost of the wheels for the first years insurance. We have a set >> available. offset is different from front to back. >> >> Ross >> sports imports ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 15:23:25 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: Datsun list Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stock steelies Interesting little fillip of law for vintage car owners - we all have to contend with that kind of petty bureaucratic crap no matter where we live, don't we? A question occurred to me when reading Ross's description of the BC rules - what if you put year-appropriate aftermarket wheels on your Roadster, like a set of vintage Minilites? Would that cause a Motor Vehicles Bureau apparatchik's brain to hit overload? Just thinking out loud... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Ross Mullen / Sports Imports wrote: In British Columbia we have a choice in how to insure your collector car. regular insurance that enables you to drive to work or school or collector car insurance that has limitations like not for work or school. Collector car insurance is not available to cars that have been modified with after market wheels. Many of our customers wanted to keep their collector plate insurance and yet still wanted a wider tire without changing the appearance of the rims. they were able to keep the stock look of a steel wheel with hub cap and still fit a 195-60 14 or even a 205-60 14 without having to pay more for yearly insurance. the cost of the rim widening was ~$150 per wheel and then paint or powder coat on top. The wider steel wheel allows for stock appearance and eligibility for collector insurance. Sorry for not being more clear at the outset. I hope this answers the questions. Ross sports imports On 14-Mar-08, at 12:19 PM, E Scanlon wrote: > Ross: > On behalf of those of us who don't understand the relation between > collector plate insurance and wheels could you elaborate? > > I understood the main intent of the discussion was how to have > wider tires while still maintaining the original look including the > hub caps. > Which, due to the various logistical problems in obtaining tires, > makes sense. > > Someone please correct me if I've misunderstood. > > (Question, now that 14" tires are becoming passi and 15" and higher > becoming more common, any thoughts on what to do? Or do we start > stock-pilng tires?) > > E > > >> We have sets of 6 inch steel wheels made locally. Not cheap but for >> BC owners wanting collector plate insurance well worth it as you save >> the cost of the wheels for the first years insurance. We have a set >> available. offset is different from front to back. >> >> Ross >> sports imports You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 16:42:35 2008 From: Gary Tew To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:41:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] mirror removal Has anyone successfully removed the mirror glass from the mirror on a dash mounted rear view?. I had a couple of mirrors re chromed. I disassembled them first, breaking the mirrors in the process. Neither mirror was in salvageable condition so I wasn't concerned. I've since had difficulty finding automotive mirror material locally and had to use regular mirror glass in my restoration piece. I'm told the auto glass is not 100% reflective, letting some light pass through so the driver isn't blinded by headlights at night. Now I have a mirror in poor condition but with a good mirror glass that I'd like to salvage and put in my re chromed piece. I'd rather not destroy the mirror casing but will sacrifice it to get the mirror out intact. Sorry for the rambling ?? Thanks Gary Tew Peoria, AZ VG30 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 17:24:12 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Gary Tew , "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:24:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal Les Cannaday at Classic Datsun Motorsports 760-940-6365 knows, or at least knew, a guy that could pull the glass out of the gauges. I also picked up an outside mirror from Les that had been rechromed and had new glass. I don't know about the other Roadster vendors, but they would probably know as well. Have a Roadster weekend! Greg SRL31100494 On 3/14/08 3:41 PM, "Gary Tew" wrote: > Has anyone successfully removed the mirror glass from the mirror on a > dash mounted rear view?. I had a couple of mirrors re chromed. I > disassembled them first, breaking the mirrors in the process. Neither > mirror was in salvageable condition so I wasn't concerned. I've since > had difficulty finding automotive mirror material locally and had to use > regular mirror glass in my restoration piece. I'm told the auto glass > is not 100% reflective, letting some light pass through so the driver > isn't blinded by headlights at night. Now I have a mirror in poor > condition but with a good mirror glass that I'd like to salvage and put > in my re chromed piece. I'd rather not destroy the mirror casing but > will sacrifice it to get the mirror out intact. Sorry for the rambling > ?? Thanks > > Gary Tew > Peoria, AZ > VG30 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 18:36:50 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Daniel Solomon'" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:37:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] my messages are not reaching the list We were trying to find a large inflatanle bus to put over the table in our department at work, as we are thrown under one almost daily by our co-workers. BTW, Who's Dan?, that guy who never posts anything? Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Solomon [mailto:d-solomon@comcast.net] hahaha.... very funny guys..... :-) :-) thanks for the chuckle..... I got kicked in the junk (figuratively speaking) at work today, and I needed that! Thanks. Dan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 20:09:57 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:09:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal I'm not sure if the glass is mechanically attached or held in with adhesive. If adhesive you might try some methylene chloride. It is commonly sold as gasket remover in aerosol. I'm not sure if it will damage the mirror but it will probably dissolve the adhesive. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+andycost=embarqmail.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+andycost=embarqmail.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 6:24 PM To: Gary Tew; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal Les Cannaday at Classic Datsun Motorsports 760-940-6365 knows, or at least knew, a guy that could pull the glass out of the gauges. I also picked up an outside mirror from Les that had been rechromed and had new glass. I don't know about the other Roadster vendors, but they would probably know as well. Have a Roadster weekend! Greg SRL31100494 On 3/14/08 3:41 PM, "Gary Tew" wrote: > Has anyone successfully removed the mirror glass from the mirror on a > dash mounted rear view?. I had a couple of mirrors re chromed. I > disassembled them first, breaking the mirrors in the process. Neither > mirror was in salvageable condition so I wasn't concerned. I've since > had difficulty finding automotive mirror material locally and had to use > regular mirror glass in my restoration piece. I'm told the auto glass > is not 100% reflective, letting some light pass through so the driver > isn't blinded by headlights at night. Now I have a mirror in poor > condition but with a good mirror glass that I'd like to salvage and put > in my re chromed piece. I'd rather not destroy the mirror casing but > will sacrifice it to get the mirror out intact. Sorry for the rambling > ?? Thanks > > Gary Tew > Peoria, AZ > VG30 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 20:34:48 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Andy Cost'" , Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:05:10 +1030 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal --===============0582248491== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, they have a bead of adhesive running around the perimeter of the glass. I don't like your chances of removing it intact or not damaging the silver backing. However, nothing ventured..... "I'm not sure if the glass is mechanically attached or held in with adhesive." Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 13/03/2008 11:31 AM --===============0582248491== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --===============0582248491==-- From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 20:56:16 2008 From: peter harrison To: Graeme , 'Andy Cost' Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:56:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal Apart from solvent, perhaps you could try heating it either by butane, or more evenly perhaps sticking it in the oven at some temperature that might make whatever adhesive soft enough to be able to pry it out - using mittens to hold the metal of course. Just a suggestion ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 23:42:46 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , , Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:42:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] behind grille color My '66 1600 was purchased from the original owner when it was five years old. He alleged, and it certinaly appeared, that the car had never been painted. The area behind the grill matched the rest of the car. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] behind grille color > I?prefer not to see?any color through the grill either so?I like the?way > you have done it but If you are?trying to make it look factory then > here's?the scoop.? I have two original "never painted" cars and both of > them have the face of the area directly behind the grill painted black. > (But the top of the front rail is?still the same color as the car.)?The > two bars that are removeable are also painted black but eveything else > under the hood and behind the grill is the same color as the car. > (Including the the area where the horns mount etc.) It actually looks like > someone painted the blacked out?sections with a brush and I have heard > others with original paint jobs say theirs looks like that too? > > Just make it easy on yourself and paint the whole car black? :-) > > Hope this helps? > > Jon Frampton > Huntington Beach Ca > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JohnnyRoadster > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 9:49 am > Subject: [Roadsters] behind grille color > > > > In painting the area behind the grille, I have been told that it was black > from the factory. I just finished doing that, but an wondering if the > entire > area is black, or is some of it in body color. I posted two new pics of > work > here. > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2360434560048273787TWSHII?vhost=rides > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > You are subscribed as jrdmf@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 14 23:59:58 2008 From: alp To: Datsun Roadster group Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal for all the hassles why not just get a new one? There were some still available not too long ago. I picked a set up myself. I am not sure if they are exactly the same but they are very close. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 15 01:23:53 2008 From: John McCarthy To: Gary Tew Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:24:11 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal Gary, I know it's easy on the 67.5 because the mirror has screws to take of the retaining ring around the casing. I bought another mirror off of eBay (I think it was for a Z?)...anyway I took the glass out and took both parts to a glass shop and they cut the new mirror to fit. I have a 67 and I know the chrome dash mirror is even smaller so maybe you could just by a low cost mirror on line or even in the Help! section of an auto parts store...take that glass and your new chrome piece to a shop and have it cut to fit. You can try some of the methods mentioned that use heat...but the silver coating on the back of the mirror is so thin you may lose some regardless of your care and diligence. v/r Buddy > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:41:48 -0700> From: garytew@cox.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] mirror removal> > Has anyone successfully removed the mirror glass from the mirror on a > dash mounted rear view?. I had a couple of mirrors re chromed. I > disassembled them first, breaking the mirrors in the process. Neither > mirror was in salvageable condition so I wasn't concerned. I've since > had difficulty finding automotive mirror material locally and had to use > regular mirror glass in my restoration piece. I'm told the auto glass > is not 100% reflective, letting some light pass through so the driver > isn't blinded by headlights at night. Now I have a mirror in poor > condition but with a good mirror glass that I'd like to salvage and put > in my re chromed piece. I'd rather not destroy the mirror casing but > will sacrifice it to get the mirror out intact. Sorry for the rambling > ?? Thanks> > Gary Tew> Peoria, AZ> VG30 1600> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as bmccarthy67@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 15 10:48:58 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Gary Tew" , Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:55:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal On the Lexus SC forum there has been quite a bit of discussion about restoring the headlights. It probably is a good discussion for anyone with modern headlights that have turned white or developed other problems. It might work for separating a mirror from the mount. They are talking about setting the kitchen oven for about 150 degrees and placing the headlight assembly in the warm oven for about 20 minutes. That softens the adhesive that holds the headlight assembly pieces together and allows them to be separated. After cleaning the plastic pieces with metal polish or other plastic cleaner they glue things back together again and it looks as good as new. I got lucky with my SC400. A little metal polish on the exterior and they were clear as a bell. I think I would try heating the mirror assembly and see if it might work there as well. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Gary Tew Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] mirror removal Has anyone successfully removed the mirror glass from the mirror on a dash mounted rear view?. I had a couple of mirrors re chromed. I disassembled them first, breaking the mirrors in the process. Neither mirror was in salvageable condition so I wasn't concerned. I've since had difficulty finding automotive mirror material locally and had to use regular mirror glass in my restoration piece. I'm told the auto glass is not 100% reflective, letting some light pass through so the driver isn't blinded by headlights at night. Now I have a mirror in poor condition but with a good mirror glass that I'd like to salvage and put in my re chromed piece. I'd rather not destroy the mirror casing but will sacrifice it to get the mirror out intact. Sorry for the rambling ?? Thanks Gary Tew Peoria, AZ VG30 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 15 13:23:35 2008 From: "Joe Russo" To: Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:20:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice on Wheels and Tire combos My 70 SRL project is progressing to the point where I need to find some tires. Recent posts about tires have helped spur me into action - so thanks for that. There's still about a foot of snow on the ground here in NY but it's melting (slowly) so no big rush. I am liking the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS recommended by Gordon (based on Tirerack survey info). I am running the Yoko's on my other roadster and figured I would give the Bridgestones a try. I spent about an hour on 311s org and I couldn't find what I was looking for - at least not in enough detail to give me confidence to spend a few hundred on new tires. At one time I read on 311s.org that almost any Z-car wheel would fit on the roadster but I can't seem to find that content on the site anymore. Here's what I have to work with: A set of Konig rewind 14x7 from a 240Z (-9mm offset I believe). - If I go with these, what size tire would fit on the roadster? I think I have to go to a 205 series go get out to the 7" rim width - any tire advice for these wheels? I think people are running these based on some pics and info on 311s but the site was not clear on offsets and tire sizes. A set of Appliance Mesh 14x6 wheels - again from a 240Z (offset???) - I am leaning toward these wheels because I think they will fit better (although I like the look of the rewinds better). I am liking a 195/60-14 or 185/60-14 for these. Any advice how to measure the offset? Being an EE, I was never very good with the mechanical measurements except basic stuff like rulers or calipers Last choice is the stock steelies with the stock dog dish hub caps - I would run the 175/70-14's on these. I apologize if this info is readily available on 311s and I am too lame to find it - I just couldn't get enough details from the time I spent looking - I figured you all would help me out. Thanks Joe ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 15 16:15:00 2008 From: alvin gogineni To: Joe Russo , Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:15:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Advice on Wheels and Tire combos The konigs are 0 offset, and won't clear your rear fenders. -9mm is even worse. 195/60/14 on the Appliance will work fine.Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: jrusso07@rochester.rr.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:20:38 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] Advice on Wheels and Tire combos> > My 70 SRL project is progressing to the point where I need to find some> tires. Recent posts about tires have helped spur me into action - so thanks> for that. There's still about a foot of snow on the ground here in NY but> it's melting (slowly) so no big rush.> > > > I am liking the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS recommended by Gordon (based on> Tirerack survey info). I am running the Yoko's on my other roadster and> figured I would give the Bridgestones a try.> > > > I spent about an hour on 311s org and I couldn't find what I was looking for> - at least not in enough detail to give me confidence to spend a few hundred> on new tires. At one time I read on 311s.org that almost any Z-car wheel> would fit on the roadster but I can't seem to find that content on the site> anymore.> > > > Here's what I have to work with:> > > > A set of Konig rewind 14x7 from a 240Z (-9mm offset I believe). - If I go> with these, what size tire would fit on the roadster? I think I have to go> to a 205 series go get out to the 7" rim width - any tire advice for these> wheels? I think people are running these based on some pics and info on> 311s but the site was not clear on offsets and tire sizes.> > > > A set of Appliance Mesh 14x6 wheels - again from a 240Z (offset???) - I am> leaning toward these wheels because I think they will fit better (although I> like the look of the rewinds better). I am liking a 195/60-14 or 185/60-14> for these.> > > > Any advice how to measure the offset? Being an EE, I was never very good> with the mechanical measurements except basic stuff like rulers or calipers> > > > Last choice is the stock steelies with the stock dog dish hub caps - I would> run the 175/70-14's on these.> > > > I apologize if this info is readily available on 311s and I am too lame to> find it - I just couldn't get enough details from the time I spent looking -> I figured you all would help me out.> > > > Thanks> > Joe> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as alvingogi@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 15 16:57:57 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:58:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] need some "advice" --I think some one please tell me--OFF LIST-- if you would be so kind... What is a good price for a used 1600 block with five main bearing set up. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 15 20:40:49 2008 From: "Dewey Hahlbohm" To: "Joe Russo" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:41:19 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Advice on Wheels and Tire combos Joe, try the following sources on tires, in order of applicability to answer your questions. www.311s.org/tech/wheels/wheelsfaq.html At the bottom of this site you will find a link to the next site kmhafer.datsun510.com/wheelchart.html www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html Last site is www.carbibles.com and check out the section on wheels and tires. These 4 sites will probably give you more info than you will ever need. Good luck, Dewey > [Original Message] > From: Joe Russo > To: > Date: 3/15/2008 1:23:44 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Advice on Wheels and Tire combos > > My 70 SRL project is progressing to the point where I need to find some > tires. Recent posts about tires have helped spur me into action - so thanks > for that. There's still about a foot of snow on the ground here in NY but > it's melting (slowly) so no big rush. > > > > I am liking the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS recommended by Gordon (based on > Tirerack survey info). I am running the Yoko's on my other roadster and > figured I would give the Bridgestones a try. > > > > I spent about an hour on 311s org and I couldn't find what I was looking for > - at least not in enough detail to give me confidence to spend a few hundred > on new tires. At one time I read on 311s.org that almost any Z-car wheel > would fit on the roadster but I can't seem to find that content on the site > anymore. > > > > Here's what I have to work with: > > > > A set of Konig rewind 14x7 from a 240Z (-9mm offset I believe). - If I go > with these, what size tire would fit on the roadster? I think I have to go > to a 205 series go get out to the 7" rim width - any tire advice for these > wheels? I think people are running these based on some pics and info on > 311s but the site was not clear on offsets and tire sizes. > > > > A set of Appliance Mesh 14x6 wheels - again from a 240Z (offset???) - I am > leaning toward these wheels because I think they will fit better (although I > like the look of the rewinds better). I am liking a 195/60-14 or 185/60-14 > for these. > > > > Any advice how to measure the offset? Being an EE, I was never very good > with the mechanical measurements except basic stuff like rulers or calipers > > > > Last choice is the stock steelies with the stock dog dish hub caps - I would > run the 175/70-14's on these. > > > > I apologize if this info is readily available on 311s and I am too lame to > find it - I just couldn't get enough details from the time I spent looking - > I figured you all would help me out. > > > > Thanks > > Joe > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 15 21:08:57 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:09:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Winter Happenings Hey List, Back in June of 2007, our 1966 1600 developed some issues which eventually led to us taking the car off the road to get some much needed work done. We had purchased the car in Febrauary of 2007 and had enjoyed it very much until we took it down. Being from Southern California we can't pretend to know what winter is really like as people from the Midwest and Northeast have to deal with, but we did share at least theme of the car being off the road for the winter and it is now almost done and ready for Solvang. So we thought we might share a few pictures of the car "in progress". It really is turning out nicely and we are excited to finally have the car back. Once it is delivered we will post some before and after pics. we hope you enjoy them. Some of you may recognize the venue where the car is currently located. We ran into some of the San Diego roadster crowd there, and we are already talking about caravans to Solvang and such -so we know it must be getting close to Spring! So for those of you who have to deal with real winters we say that Spring is coming and then it is roadster time! We hope to see you on the road! Andrew Murphy Shari Crawley 1966 1600 http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01336.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01337.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01338.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01339.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01340.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01341.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01342.JPG _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 16 07:55:40 2008 From: "Joe Russo" To: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:53:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks for all the great advice on Tires and Wheels Thanks to all that responded and put me back on the path of success with tires and wheels for my roadster project! I am all set! I'll let you know what shakes out when the journey is complete Joe :-) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 16 10:58:01 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Gary Tew'" , Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:58:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal Gary, I have done this, though not on a roadster mirror. However, the mirror was attached similarly to the back tho. Boiling water is the key. Since water won't get "too" hot it won't discolor the casing. Because it's water, it won't harm the mirror surface like a chemical may. Have a hot pan holder ready, and have as many pieces of plastic as possible available to help "coax" it out of position (plastic putty knives, plastic silverware, etc. all of different thicknesses and strengths). Find out what works and go at it! I'm not saying it's the perfect solution. If you break the mirror, you break the mirror. S**t happens. It will not damage the casing and is WELL WORTH THE TRY! Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tew Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 6:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] mirror removal Has anyone successfully removed the mirror glass from the mirror on a dash mounted rear view?. I had a couple of mirrors re chromed. I disassembled them first, breaking the mirrors in the process. Neither mirror was in salvageable condition so I wasn't concerned. I've since had difficulty finding automotive mirror material locally and had to use regular mirror glass in my restoration piece. I'm told the auto glass is not 100% reflective, letting some light pass through so the driver isn't blinded by headlights at night. Now I have a mirror in poor condition but with a good mirror glass that I'd like to salvage and put in my re chromed piece. I'd rather not destroy the mirror casing but will sacrifice it to get the mirror out intact. Sorry for the rambling ?? Thanks Gary Tew Peoria, AZ VG30 1600 You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 16 12:07:56 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:03:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] need some "advice" --I think I guess I wasn't clear. I am looking to sell one not buy one. Still clueless Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Tim wrote: ============= some one please tell me--OFF LIST-- if you would be so kind... What is a good price for a used 1600 block with five main bearing set up. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 16 14:12:39 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:12:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] brakes OT Anyone know if there is a way to order LOCKHEED brake parts by Lockheed part number. I have dug pretty deap with this. For another vintage car not a roadster. Thanks, Dave ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Mar 16 21:40:11 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Andy Cost" , Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:41:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal Not to mention all the epithelial tissue in your respiratory system... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Cost" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal > I'm not sure if the glass is mechanically attached or held in with > adhesive. > If adhesive you might try some methylene chloride. It is commonly sold as > gasket remover in aerosol. I'm not sure if it will damage the mirror but > it > will probably dissolve the adhesive. > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+andycost=embarqmail.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+andycost=embarqmail.com@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 6:24 PM > To: Gary Tew; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] mirror removal > > > Les Cannaday at Classic Datsun Motorsports 760-940-6365 knows, or at least > knew, a guy that could pull the glass out of the gauges. I also picked up > an > outside mirror from Les that had been rechromed and had new glass. I don't > know about the other Roadster vendors, but they would probably know as > well. > > Have a Roadster weekend! > Greg > SRL31100494 > > > On 3/14/08 3:41 PM, "Gary Tew" wrote: > >> Has anyone successfully removed the mirror glass from the mirror on a >> dash mounted rear view?. I had a couple of mirrors re chromed. I >> disassembled them first, breaking the mirrors in the process. Neither >> mirror was in salvageable condition so I wasn't concerned. I've since >> had difficulty finding automotive mirror material locally and had to use >> regular mirror glass in my restoration piece. I'm told the auto glass >> is not 100% reflective, letting some light pass through so the driver >> isn't blinded by headlights at night. Now I have a mirror in poor >> condition but with a good mirror glass that I'd like to salvage and put >> in my re chromed piece. I'd rather not destroy the mirror casing but >> will sacrifice it to get the mirror out intact. Sorry for the rambling >> ?? Thanks >> >> Gary Tew >> Peoria, AZ >> VG30 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 17 07:17:06 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: solex675@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:16:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Winter Happenings Andrew, That car looks great!? I remember what it was before.? I love a stock look white roadster. Looks like Les is doing a FINE job. See you in Solvang. Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Andrew Murphy To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 8:09 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Winter Happenings Hey List, Back in June of 2007, our 1966 1600 developed some issues which eventually led to us taking the car off the road to get some much needed work done. We had purchased the car in Febrauary of 2007 and had enjoyed it very much until we took it down. Being from Southern California we can't pretend to know what winter is really like as people from the Midwest and Northeast have to deal with, but we did share at least theme of the car being off the road for the winter and it is now almost done and ready for Solvang. So we thought we might share a few pictures of the car "in progress". It really is turning out nicely and we are excited to finally have the car back. Once it is delivered we will post some before and after pics. we hope you enjoy them. Some of you may recognize the venue where the car is currently located. We ran into some of the San Diego roadster crowd there, and we are already talking about caravans to Solvang and such -so we know it must be getting close to Spring! So for those of you who have to deal with real winters we say that Spring is coming and then it is roadster time! We hope to see you on the road! Andrew Murphy Shari Crawley 1966 1600 http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01336.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01337.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01338.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01339.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01340.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01341.JPG http://home.netcom.com/~andr/DSC01342.JPG _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 17 08:26:50 2008 From: Dan Zubkoff To: tminerpcav@aol.com, solex675@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Winter Happenings Wow, Andrew, the car is looking great. Classic Datsun has really sprinkled some nice magic on your roadster. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX tminerpcav@aol.com wrote: Andrew, That car looks great!? I remember what it was before.? I love a stock look white roadster. Looks like Les is doing a FINE job. See you in Solvang. Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Andrew Murphy To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 8:09 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Winter Happenings Hey List, Back in June of 2007, our 1966 1600 developed some issues which eventually led to us taking the car off the road to get some much needed work done. ... Andrew Murphy Shari Crawley 1966 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Mar 17 19:30:45 2008 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Cam option? Hello list, I am now about finished with my U20 to MC Mikuni flatslide conversion and now looking to upgrade the cam. With my A cam at present I hit the wall @ 6k. I have never had the chance to drive a B cam car. What am I to expect with a B cam if I go that route? Little sacrifice in the low end punch and perhaps rev a bit higher than 6k? Rallye puts it as just that,do you agree? I don't want to give up much on the low end as I have 4 big holes to overcome rather than 2 now but would like to wake it up a little on top end but not give up my midrange. Suggestions? Thanks, U20, Smoothbore 40mm Mikuni Flatslides ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 18 06:52:44 2008 From: John McCarthy To: Brad and Gayle Holmes Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:53:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for 2000 starter & SEROC News! Brad, I'm sorry to say I will miss the Mitty yet again (this 15 month Iraq deployment stuff has cost me two years straight). I still have my Banner (door prize) from the 2004 Mitty...it hangs in a place of honor in the garage. Come hell or high water I will see everyone next get together. Buddy> From: bradandgayle@charter.net> To: ;> Subject: Fw: looking for 2000 starter & SEROC News!> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:29:36 -0500> > Dear SEROCers> > Greg Hare is in need of a starter for his 2000. Can anyone help him out?> Please contact Greg at his email address below.> > News very soon on the web site. Tom has the site up and we're updating it.> We'll release the url very soon!> > GrassRoots Motorsports wants to know how many of you are going to the> Mitty?????????????????/> 'I am working with the Georgia Z clubs sponsor to secure that space for the> Datsun\Nissan family. I need to know how many tickets will your group need.> We are working with the sponsor to buy a large number of tickets and we will> include a large tent for hospitality.' Miguel Caparros GRM> > The space he is referring to is the area we have had the last few years and> the parking lot just north of that.> > If you haven't made hotel reservations, do it very soon.............. like> last month! Places are filling up or are full.> > Enjoy the Ride!> > Brad> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Greg Hare [mailto:ghare@bellsouth.net]> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:13 PM> To: 'Brad Holmes'> Subject: looking for 2000 starter> > Brad> > Does anyone need to sell one before I buy from one of the usual suspects?> > Thanks,> > Greg> > > _________________________________________________________________ Do more with your photos with Windows Live Photo Gallery. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_photos_022008 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 18 08:18:54 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: bmccarthy67@hotmail.com, bradandgayle@charter.net Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:19:01 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for 2000 starter & SEROC News! In a message dated 3/18/2008 5:54:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bmccarthy67@hotmail.com writes: GrassRoots Motorsports wants to know how many of you are going to the> Mitty?????????????????/> 'I am working with the Georgia Z clubs sponsor to secure that space for the> Datsun\Nissan family. I need to know how many tickets will your group need.> We are working with the sponsor to buy a large number of tickets and we will> include a large tent for hospitality.' Miguel Caparros GRM> > The space he is referring to is the area we have had the last few years and> the parking lot just north of that.> > If you haven't made hotel reservations, do it very soon.............. like> last month! Places are filling up or are full.> > Enjoy the Ride!> > Brad> > > I haven't received the original posting but I am planning to be there. Got my tickets, hotel room and airline tickets. Will get rental car soon. keith "the slow carb guy" williams **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 18 08:28:34 2008 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:28:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cam option? Tom, With 44 Mikunis and a B cam I noticed a bit less power and torque at the low end but the car was certainly drivable on the low end even at 5280 ft elevation.? A 3.90 rear helped the low end drivability.? It really took off at 3000 rpm and?pulled hard?to 7000.? I?ran 34mm chokes instead of the stock 37mm since I am at high altitude. I think you will be very happy with a B cam.? I know some guys at sea level have run more lift and duration than the B cam but I don't find that necessary for a street car. Good luck.....You will have fun. ? John Over WYCROC 68 2000 /SR20DET almost ready to go 67 2000 to be restored 71 240z -----Original Message----- From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 7:31 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Cam option? Hello list, I am now about finished with my U20 to MC Mikuni flatslide conversion and now looking to upgrade the cam. With my A cam at present I hit the wall @ 6k. I have never had the chance to drive a B cam car. What am I to expect with a B cam if I go that route? Little sacrifice in the low end punch and perhaps rev a bit higher than 6k? Rallye puts it as just that,do you agree? I don't want to give up much on the low end as I have 4 big holes to overcome rather than 2 now but would like to wake it up a little on top end but not give up my midrange. Suggestions? Thanks, U20, Smoothbore 40mm Mikuni Flatslides You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 18 11:19:17 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:19:48 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Early 1600 carbs available. Hello all, I've just finished up a set of early 1600 carbs and manifold. I thought that someone was waiting for them but I can't seem to find the email from the person. If you've been waiting for a set and haven't heard from me please drop me a note. I've got more that will be done soon. If anyone else is interested in a set please let me know. keith "the slow carb guy" williams **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 18 12:43:31 2008 From: "Brad and Gayle Holmes" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:43:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] SEROC list update! Dear SEROCers and the Roadster net I recently relocated the club email list to my home computer and have sent a couple emails to the club from there. Each time I get a number of bounces. The list below are the folks that have bounced off the radar screen. If you have a good email address for these folks would you please email it to me or ask that/those members to email me at my home address so I can update our records. Also, If you've bought another car, sold a car, or would like to be dropped from the records or the mail list, whatever..... please let me know so I can update our records:-) Alex Avery, VA Eric Roe, FL Brian Reynolds, CAN Eric Hoffman, GA Doug Noble, VA Rex Kiger, GA Regie Orr, SC Ben Herman, VA Arthur Maybee, AL David Moore, FL Liz & Jim Hope, GA Ben Zech, NC John Landenberger, ? Mike Magnesi, GA Rich McDonald, FL Clifton Dixon, TN Dewayne Scott, GA Steve Waddelow, SC Shelly Vaughn, DE Lee Jackson, GA Dwight Woodruff, FL Kevin Clingenpeel, NC Don Bisson, FL Thanks and Enjoy the Ride! Brad, Pres. SEROC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Mar 18 20:43:05 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:48:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 510's at Watkins Glen >From the Bluebirds list. Pretty cool short video. Pete -----Original Message----- From: bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 6:36 AM To: BB List Subject: RE: 510's at Watkins Glen Here is a short video I found by chance. It was shot at Watkins Glen International at the SCCA Glen National in July 2007. A few inaccuracies about the event, but still a cool 3 minute piece on SCCA racing at the Glen. 510's in order of appearance. #21 - Drew Young (owner, Dave Patten) #60 - Bobby Lentz Jr. #63 - Brian Downey #62 - Greg Plush One more note; the #82 red/white/blue GT1 Corvette is Paul Newman, still driving at 82 years old. Dave Patten Dunbarton, NH ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 19 11:37:35 2008 From: "Eric Gillis" To: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:32:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Cycle Transport to Canada Thanks for the look, sorry no roadster content. However, if I can get this bike sold, I will have enough moolah to get the r16 ready for solvang and shasta. Does anyone know about the ins and outs of selling a motorcycle to a person in BC, Canada? I would like to have the bike on a transport carrier, but I am not sure about paperwork and wether the customs thing will be too much of a hassle. I am not above 'working' something out, nudge nudge, wink, wink, but I cannot bring the bike to the border. Any thoughts and thanks for the OT time. Back to your regularly scheduled roadster chat. Eric Gillis Modesto, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 19 11:49:34 2008 From: d-solomon@comcast.net To: "Eric Gillis" , Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:49:57 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Cycle Transport to Canada I Have bought and sold many motorcycles over the years, including some to and from europe, and once from Canada. I recommend contacting www.forwardair.com they will be your best friend in this little venture. good luck. Dan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Eric Gillis" > Thanks for the look, sorry no roadster content. However, if I can get this > bike sold, I will have enough moolah to get the r16 ready for solvang and > shasta. > > Does anyone know about the ins and outs of selling a motorcycle to a person in > BC, Canada? I would like to have the bike on a transport carrier, but I am > not sure about paperwork and wether the customs thing will be too much of a > hassle. I am not above 'working' something out, nudge nudge, wink, wink, but > I cannot bring the bike to the border. Any thoughts and thanks for the OT > time. Back to your regularly scheduled roadster chat. > > Eric Gillis > Modesto, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 19 11:54:16 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Eric Gillis" , Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:02:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Cycle Transport to Canada Eric, Recently I was looking to purchase a 300ZX, until I found my SC400 that is. Along the way I found a 300ZX for sale on eBay. It was a right-hand drive car and located in Canada. After trying to find the information you are looking for I called US Customs and they were very informative about what I could expect if I purchased the car and wanted to import it into the US. I really wanted the RHD, but not the rest of the problems I would be facing if I purchased the car. I would suggest calling Canadian Customs and talking to them about what you have, and what you would like to do. They will steer you down the right path and things will go very easy, or not at all, depending upon their answers to your questions. Their contact information should be available on the web by searching for Canadian Customs. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Eric Gillis Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:32 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Cycle Transport to Canada Thanks for the look, sorry no roadster content. However, if I can get this bike sold, I will have enough moolah to get the r16 ready for solvang and shasta. Does anyone know about the ins and outs of selling a motorcycle to a person in BC, Canada? I would like to have the bike on a transport carrier, but I am not sure about paperwork and wether the customs thing will be too much of a hassle. I am not above 'working' something out, nudge nudge, wink, wink, but I cannot bring the bike to the border. Any thoughts and thanks for the OT time. Back to your regularly scheduled roadster chat. Eric Gillis Modesto, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 19 13:33:13 2008 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:31:24 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Pump Spin Up / Death of points forever?? My engine has had a long slumber. I marked and then pulled the distributor to spin up the oil pump as suggested on the 311s.org site. I built up pressure and had oil coming out of the tube which lubricates the distributor gears but, I didn't see anything come out of the valve train. Is this normal? Do I need to plug up the tube that oils the distributor to build up pressure in the valve train? I also tried to buy a new set of points. I plan to go to an electronic ignition later but, right now I just want to fire up the engine and see how it runs. The Carquest guy couldn't find a part number in his book. (This guy is no idiot, either. He's been selling parts for many years.) I said, "That's funny I found a part number at the NAPA web site." So, I went to NAPA. NAPA guy finds a part number, says he would have to order, and then the bad news. NAPA guy says that part number is no longer in production. So..... Maybe my local guys don't know the magic decoder ring to find the part number. ...or... These things are really going out of production. If that's the case, anyone wanting to stay with points may want to buy up a couple extra sets. In the meantime, I cleaned up my distributor and points. Since I didn't buy new points, I didn't get the nifty little packet of grease for the distributor cam. Would dielectric grease work as a substitute? TIA, Dan McHatton '66 1600 _____________________________________________________________ Click for travel nursing jobs and see the world. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/REAK6ZpQHyEnTheNrLAcf3OA5wMwzdjGO agHrYTssK6G6s84Rjk9jo/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 19 14:36:16 2008 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:36:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Heading South Hey all - I will be heading to the Cape next week. I will have Monday and Thursday afternoons off. Let me know if you would like to meet up and talk Roadsters. Sid - you going to be around. Have rental car - will drive..... Phil Hall NASA/MSFC/ED03 Systems Engineering work : 256-544-2525 cell: 256-698-4388 (new) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 19 16:33:38 2008 From: "Dave Stoll" To: , Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:35:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Oil Pump Spin Up / Death of points forever?? try a nissan dealer or nissan forklift dealer for points... daveS ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:31 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Pump Spin Up / Death of points forever?? > My engine has had a long slumber. I marked and then pulled the distributor > to > spin up the oil pump as suggested on the 311s.org site. I built up > pressure > and had oil coming out of the tube which lubricates the distributor gears > but, > I didn't see anything come out of the valve train. Is this normal? Do I > need > to plug up the tube that oils the distributor to build up pressure in the > valve train? > I also tried to buy a new set of points. I plan to go to an electronic > ignition later but, right now I just want to fire up the engine and see > how it > runs. The Carquest guy couldn't find a part number in his book. (This guy > is > no idiot, either. He's been selling parts for many years.) I said, > "That's > funny I found a part number at the NAPA web site." So, I went to NAPA. > NAPA > guy finds a part number, says he would have to order, and then the bad > news. > NAPA guy says that part number is no longer in production. So..... Maybe > my > local guys don't know the magic decoder ring to find the part number. > ...or... > These things are really going out of production. If that's the case, > anyone > wanting to stay with points may want to buy up a couple extra sets. > In the meantime, I cleaned up my distributor and points. Since I didn't > buy > new points, I didn't get the nifty little packet of grease for the > distributor > cam. Would dielectric grease work as a substitute? > TIA, > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 > > _____________________________________________________________ > Click for travel nursing jobs and see the world. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/REAK6ZpQHyEnTheNrLAcf3OA5wMwzdjGO > agHrYTssK6G6s84Rjk9jo/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dgstoll@verizon.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 19 17:02:47 2008 From: Steve Jacobson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 Block Thanks for coming through with a block Tim, and the shipping $ was right. ;-) You'll have to make your way to Blackhawk or RA (or both!) to see it in action. No firm dates yet, but for sure nmot too early, probably more towards mid-late summer & fall. Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home www.elrss.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 19 18:48:48 2008 From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: Datsun List Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:49:21 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Hi all, I am planning to put a 4 speed tranny behind my 2000 engine for improved gearing for autocross. I have read you must use the correct bell housing front cover, for the tranny you are using, if you swap trannies on the 1600 or 2000 engine. Does anyone have the thickness measurements of the different front covers for the 4 speed and 5 speed trannies? I recall reading something about different thickness front covers cause increased stresses on the throwout or transmission bearings. Does anyone know the specifics about that, or any other reasons for being careful with the front covers? TIA, Dewey Hahlbohm ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Mar 19 22:36:25 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Dewey Hahlbohm" , "Datsun List" Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:37:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Dewey, I don't know what the rest of the list will say, but I have a '66 1600 with at '69 U20. The 1600 and 2000 share a common block casting. The 4-speed bolted right up to the U20. I am not aware of any special measures which should be taken to fit a 4-speed to a U20, or a 5-speed to a 1600. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dewey Hahlbohm" To: "Datsun List" Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:49 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question > Hi all, I am planning to put a 4 speed tranny behind my 2000 engine for > improved gearing for autocross. I have read you must use the correct bell > housing front cover, for the tranny you are using, if you swap trannies on > the 1600 or 2000 engine. Does anyone have the thickness measurements of > the different front covers for the 4 speed and 5 speed trannies? > > I recall reading something about different thickness front covers cause > increased stresses on the throwout or transmission bearings. Does anyone > know the specifics about that, or any other reasons for being careful with > the front covers? > > TIA, Dewey Hahlbohm > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 00:17:45 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:22:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Dewey, you read right. It's the backing plates that are different thicknesses: 5 speed: 0.18 in 4 speed: 0.8 - 0.9 Check out these links for more discussion: Cheers. Pete "your friendly Search the Archives Elf" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:37 PM To: Dewey Hahlbohm; Datsun List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Dewey, I don't know what the rest of the list will say, but I have a '66 1600 with at '69 U20. The 1600 and 2000 share a common block casting. The 4-speed bolted right up to the U20. I am not aware of any special measures which should be taken to fit a 4-speed to a U20, or a 5-speed to a 1600. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dewey Hahlbohm" To: "Datsun List" Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:49 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question > Hi all, I am planning to put a 4 speed tranny behind my 2000 engine for > improved gearing for autocross. I have read you must use the correct bell > housing front cover, for the tranny you are using, if you swap trannies on > the 1600 or 2000 engine. Does anyone have the thickness measurements of > the different front covers for the 4 speed and 5 speed trannies? > > I recall reading something about different thickness front covers cause > increased stresses on the throwout or transmission bearings. Does anyone > know the specifics about that, or any other reasons for being careful with > the front covers? > > TIA, Dewey Hahlbohm > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 01:21:14 2008 From: peter harrison To: Dewey Hahlbohm , Datsun List Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:21:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Dewey Having done the reverse, ie 4 speed to 5 speed - i do KNOW that the 1600 backing plate won't work on a 5 speed, and I ASSUME therefore that the 2000 won't work on a 1600. Note also other possible changes, rear transmission mount, drive shaft, throwout bearing arm, location of gear shift lever in the tunnel, different throwout bearing arm gasket, speedo cable connection and possible change in the nylon drive ratio that drives the speedometer. You will probably want to change the tranmission front seal, the clutch plate and pressure plate ( 2000 will work for the latter two) and the throwout bearing itself - since you are there and it is such a pain to r&r the engine. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 04:32:33 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Dewey Hahlbohm'" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:32:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Dewey, Yes, the 1600 and 2000 have different thickness plates between the tranny and block. And yes, the clutch won't work right if you use the wrong plate (And yes, at Sloan Racing we have had to pull motors back out of the race roadsters because we grabbed the wrong plate!). But I can't remember which one is thicker? If the 4 speed is still a bit high in first, remember you can switch to a 3.90 ring and pinion from a 1600. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dewey Hahlbohm Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:49 PM To: Datsun List Subject: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Hi all, I am planning to put a 4 speed tranny behind my 2000 engine for improved gearing for autocross. I have read you must use the correct bell housing front cover, for the tranny you are using, if you swap trannies on the 1600 or 2000 engine. Does anyone have the thickness measurements of the different front covers for the 4 speed and 5 speed trannies? I recall reading something about different thickness front covers cause increased stresses on the throwout or transmission bearings. Does anyone know the specifics about that, or any other reasons for being careful with the front covers? TIA, Dewey Hahlbohm You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 12:10:44 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] last message Sorry, for the misdirected response Dave. I meant to respond to Dan's original post. Maybe I should just stay in the shadows. Patti --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 13:30:05 2008 From: steven boortz To: roadsters , Victor Laury Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] HELP! hi everyone. i have been planning on getting back to the track in my roadster for the three years since last i went. i've registered to run tomorrow and saturday at california speedways' roval. i really thought this was the time. and i really thought i had the electrical gremlins licked when i determined i had wired the tailights 180 degrees out of whack. they worked fine yesterday. a couple days before, i installed an electric fan. i wired the hot on the fan to the fog light wire, and the ground directly to the fender. worked fine. i've never had fog lamps, but i did for sometime have that wire to power an electric fuel pump. today, no fan and no lights. removed the fuse cover, and the second fuse from the bottom was blown. no problem, just replace the fuse. but still no lights and still no fan! i figure that, i can get away with no fan, if i closely monitor the temperature. but no lights means no brake lights, and no brake lights means i won't pass tech. is there anyone in the LA area that could help me chase this down? i really have no idea even where to start. i would be happy to buy dinner and beverages and anything else that makes you happy. steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 14:07:58 2008 From: To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:08:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] parts car Folks, I have a parts car I'm ready to "part" with, ha ha. I was told it is a '66 1500. The engine block has "1500" stamped on it. The guy I got it from was planning on restoring it but it is in very poor condition. The engine was supposedly running before he parked it for good. I'm willing to cut up body parts as needed. There is no hood, both front fenders have the typical rusted out areas, the doors are usable, none of interior exists, the tires are rotted but the wheels are Western, 13" whatevers and may be salvageable. There is significant frame rust and deterioration. The trunk lid has the external hinges. I'll try to take some pics and put on my website. Whatever is left will go to the scrap yard. Email me off list with any queries. Gary Tew Peoria, AZ vg30 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 14:18:35 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:18:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been in my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. Just curious. Greg SRL31100494 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 14:26:42 2008 From: "James Fogg" To: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:22:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? > I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things > being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been > in > my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are > some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go > with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. > > Just curious. I greatly prefer the pre-1968 models, and I'm not alone in that. If I want a 2000 I have a 6 month period in which they were made, and parts are incredibly rare for certain items (find a 67.5 headrest, if you can). I find the low windshield lines far more attractive, and I love the flat metal dashboard. The "look" of the pre-1968's combined with the higher displacement engine is what makes the 67.5 so hotly coveted. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 14:29:39 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: gsm@gregorysmorrison.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:30:00 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? In a message dated 3/20/2008 1:19:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gsm@gregorysmorrison.com writes: I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been in my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. Just curious. Greg SRL31100494 Why would anyone dump a ton of money into restoring either one? The early 1600 has the flat dash that lots of folks like better. The 1600 engine is less expensive to rebuild and is a more durable engine. I have speeding tickets to prove the 1600 is plenty fast enough. Since any roadster restoration is a "nice to have" it is simply a matter of what that individual wants to do. They are different but I wouldn't say either one is better across the board. keith **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 14:53:53 2008 From: "Matt Jacquet" To: "Gregory S. Morrison" , Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:57:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? OMG you're are so right!! I didn't realize it till this fantastic posting.. 1600? what was I thinking? Further more what about those hideous 1500, who in there right mind would be caught dead, backing up the slow lane of course, in one of those? Single carb, drum brakes Huh! Off to the crusher with all of them!! Give me Solex and a 5 speed or give me death!!! Just kidding (kind of) Matt Jacquet 68 SPL311-18900 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:19 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been in my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. Just curious. Greg SRL31100494 You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 15:14:52 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] test pppptttthhh....tap, tap tap.....testing 1, 2, 3 ...Is this thing on? Seems my apology was the only message that went out. big sigh --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 15:22:50 2008 From: d-solomon@comcast.net To: Patti Dwinell , All list Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:19:45 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] last message ??? what'd i miss? -------------- Original message -------------- From: Patti Dwinell > Sorry, for the misdirected response Dave. I meant to respond to Dan's original > post. Maybe I should just stay in the shadows. > > Patti > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 16:24:08 2008 From: Tim To: "Gregory S. Morrison" , Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:24:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? OR BOTH MAYBE?? Wellllllllllll......I have both so there you go. I would love to have a short windshield with either engine, but that is not an option as I am too tall to drive them. But I must say, my 1600 is getting a five speed tranny eventually. It just begs for one more gear, even more so since I started running a GB dizzy. And one of the two runners might end up with a flat dash as I love that look as well. PEACE :-) Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "Gregory S. Morrison" wrote: ============= I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been in my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. Just curious. Greg SRL31100494 You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 16:24:26 2008 From: Tim To: "Gregory S. Morrison" , Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:24:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? OR BOTH MAYBE?? Wellllllllllll......I have both so there you go. I would love to have a short windshield with either engine, but that is not an option as I am too tall to drive them. But I must say, my 1600 is getting a five speed tranny eventually. It just begs for one more gear, even more so since I started running a GB dizzy. And one of the two runners might end up with a flat dash as I love that look as well. PEACE :-) Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "Gregory S. Morrison" wrote: ============= I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been in my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. Just curious. Greg SRL31100494 ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 16:25:16 2008 From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com To: matt@vander-bend.com, gsm@gregorysmorrison.com, Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:25:04 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? Hey kiddies - apparently you are a novice when it comes to the entire series of roadsters. My best example is a gymkhana back in 1972, when I ran my dad's '70 240 Z in E production, my friend's '68 2000 in D production and my '64 1500 in E Production. Best time in all three went to the 1500 by a good two seconds. The 1500 has better bottom end torque and gets off the line and through the course faster. Yes the 240 and 2000 has higher top end, but ask the guys in WYCROC about the little red single carb 1500 out on rides as the car passes up the 1600's with ease. Also, I wouldn't turn my 17 year old loose with a 2000, so he is driving the 1600, and loving it. If the 2000 was so great, why was there only 15,000 compared to 20,000 1600 sold originally? Give me a good running 1500 and some good gymkhana courses and I'll blow your doors off. Or better yet, just give me a good running roadster compared to the other junk on the road anyday. ENJOY THE ROADSTER RIDE. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 In a message dated 3/20/2008 2:54:46 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, matt@vander-bend.com writes: OMG you're are so right!! I didn't realize it till this fantastic posting.. 1600? what was I thinking? Further more what about those hideous 1500, who in there right mind would be caught dead, backing up the slow lane of course, in one of those? Single carb, drum brakes Huh! Off to the crusher with all of them!! Give me Solex and a 5 speed or give me death!!! Just kidding (kind of) Matt Jacquet 68 SPL311-18900 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:19 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been in my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. Just curious. Greg SRL31100494 You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as barterdude@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 16:30:03 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Spring time drive--a must read (in my opion) Ok, first day of spring and I have any where from one to three feet of snow in my yard still, and even more in the front by the sidewalk and road. Temp is a lovely 42 degrees, the sun is shining and the roads have no snow or ice on them. As I was leaving work someone went by with their top down and the music up. This last was the kicker. I had to fire up one of the Roadsters. So, with the top down and shorts on (well, I wear shorts year round) I went for a drive. I did something around 20 miles and it was great. Now tomorrow, we are supposed to get 8 to 10 inches of snow. It was fun while it lasted this afternoon. PEACE :-) Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 16:30:48 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:31:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? Ditto. Pete "Flat Dashes Forever" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "James Fogg" > > I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All > things > > being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's > been > > in > > my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why > are > > some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why > not go > > with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. > > > > Just curious. > > > I greatly prefer the pre-1968 models, and I'm not alone in that. If I > want a 2000 I have a 6 month period in which they were made, and parts > are incredibly rare for certain items (find a 67.5 headrest, if you > can). > > I find the low windshield lines far more attractive, and I love the flat > metal dashboard. The "look" of the pre-1968's combined with the higher > displacement engine is what makes the 67.5 so hotly coveted. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 16:33:55 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:33:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? ROFLMAO!!!! We know you're kidding, Matt. At least regarding the silver cars. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Matt Jacquet" > OMG you're are so right!! I didn't realize it till this fantastic posting.. > 1600? what was I thinking? Further more what about those hideous 1500, who > in there right mind would be caught dead, backing up the slow lane of > course, in one of those? Single carb, drum brakes Huh! Off to the crusher > with all of them!! > > Give me Solex and a 5 speed or give me death!!! > > Just kidding (kind of) > Matt Jacquet > 68 SPL311-18900 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:19 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? > > > I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things > being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been in > my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are > some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go > with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. > > Just curious. > > Greg > SRL31100494 > You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 16:35:13 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Dewey Hahlbohm'" , "'Datsun List'" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:35:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Everyone pretty much covered the plate, need the thin one. Don't forget to get the cheap Chevy trans mount, ~$25.00, 10 minutes of work, will never break. http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ChevyTrannyMount Good thing, you can sell off the 5 speed as a kit, make big $$ I have an extra 4 speed crossmember and driveshaft I was going to put on Ebay. If you need, just email. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Dewey Hahlbohm [mailto:hahlbohmd@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:49 PM To: Datsun List Subject: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Hi all, I am planning to put a 4 speed tranny behind my 2000 engine for improved gearing for autocross. I have read you must use the correct bell housing front cover, for the tranny you are using, if you swap trannies on the 1600 or 2000 engine. Does anyone have the thickness measurements of the different front covers for the 4 speed and 5 speed trannies? I recall reading something about different thickness front covers cause increased stresses on the throwout or transmission bearings. Does anyone know the specifics about that, or any other reasons for being careful with the front covers? TIA, Dewey Hahlbohm ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 16:55:32 2008 From: "Guy" To: "dave" , "'Dewey Hahlbohm'" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:56:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Dave, Thank you for the suggestion on the transmission mount. Great suggestion. I will use it. Guy 67.5 Chandler, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'Dewey Hahlbohm'" ; "'Datsun List'" Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question > Everyone pretty much covered the plate, need the thin one. Don't forget > to get the cheap Chevy trans mount, ~$25.00, 10 minutes of work, will > never break. > http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ChevyTrannyMount > > Good thing, you can sell off the 5 speed as a kit, make big $$ > > I have an extra 4 speed crossmember and driveshaft I was going to put on > Ebay. If you need, just email. > > > Dave Brisco > ECR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dewey Hahlbohm [mailto:hahlbohmd@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:49 PM > To: Datsun List > Subject: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question > > Hi all, I am planning to put a 4 speed tranny behind my 2000 engine for > improved gearing for autocross. I have read you must use the correct > bell housing front cover, for the tranny you are using, if you swap > trannies on the 1600 or 2000 engine. Does anyone have the thickness > measurements of the different front covers for the 4 speed and 5 speed > trannies? > > I recall reading something about different thickness front covers cause > increased stresses on the throwout or transmission bearings. Does > anyone know the specifics about that, or any other reasons for being > careful with the front covers? > > TIA, Dewey Hahlbohm > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as sales@foilgraphics.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 17:20:06 2008 From: andycost@embarqmail.com To: datsun-roadsters Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question I was thinking that they were fairly close in thickness. One was like 1/8" and the other like 1/4". Does anyone have the actual specifications for the thickness of each plate? Someone said .8" but that seems way too thick. That would be 100 pounds of steel. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy" To: "dave" , "Dewey Hahlbohm" , "Datsun List" Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:56:14 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Dave, Thank you for the suggestion on the transmission mount. Great suggestion. I will use it. Guy 67.5 Chandler, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: "'Dewey Hahlbohm'" ; "'Datsun List'" Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question > Everyone pretty much covered the plate, need the thin one. Don't forget > to get the cheap Chevy trans mount, ~$25.00, 10 minutes of work, will > never break. > http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ChevyTrannyMount > > Good thing, you can sell off the 5 speed as a kit, make big $$ > > I have an extra 4 speed crossmember and driveshaft I was going to put on > Ebay. If you need, just email. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 18:28:01 2008 From: "Dave Stoll" To: "Gregory S. Morrison" , Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:30:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? 1. because my 1600 has slim chance of a death rattle coming from the timing chain.... 2. once the tires start squealing in a corner the engine size doesn't matter.... daveS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? > I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things > being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been > in > my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are > some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go > with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 18:33:34 2008 From: geegc@aol.com To: dgstoll@verizon.net, gsm@gregorysmorrison.com, Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:33:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? And I think we will be able to get parts for the 1600 engine long after 2000 parts are a fond memory (coming from someone who owns one of each) Gary C? red 1600, black 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 18:54:49 2008 From: Peter Jones To: Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:55:24 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Parts needed Hello all, I am chasing a set of windscreen demister air horns that connect the airhorn rubber thing to the dash on the 2000 high screen. It's those funny shaped black cones. Also I am chasing a centre console for the car as well, just needs to be usable. The challanging part is that I live in Australia and I am happy to pay via paypal for the parts plus your time on posting and packing. If you do have the parts please contact me off list and we can talk turkey. Regards Peter j 68 fitted with a CA18DET _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2E com%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai% 5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 19:24:12 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:24:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? One word - hell, one LETTER... - Z Gary McCormick San Jose, CA BARTERDUDE@aol.com wrote: >"If the 2000 was so great, why was there only 15,000 >compared to 20,000 1600 sold originally?" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 19:26:07 2008 From: "Brian Hollands" To: "'Roadster mailist'" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:26:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? Now OT --===============1187517795== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- 2. once the tires start squealing in a corner the engine size doesn't matter.... Reminds me of my favorite Mark Donohue Quote... "I'll have enough power when I can leave two black streaks from the exit of this corner to the entrance of that one" His response to a question about the adequacy of the roughly 1500HP 917/30. Brian Hollands '69 2000 Tampa FL Checked by AVG. 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Paul ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 20:51:39 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:52:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Oil Pump Spin Up / Death of points forever?? Blue Streak Lubripoints Model JP-6X, manufactured by Standard Motor Products, appear to still be available. These are vented points of very high quality, for my money. The accompanying condenser is JC-34X. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Oil Pump Spin Up / Death of points forever?? > My engine has had a long slumber. I marked and then pulled the distributor > to > spin up the oil pump as suggested on the 311s.org site. I built up > pressure > and had oil coming out of the tube which lubricates the distributor gears > but, > I didn't see anything come out of the valve train. Is this normal? Do I > need > to plug up the tube that oils the distributor to build up pressure in the > valve train? > I also tried to buy a new set of points. I plan to go to an electronic > ignition later but, right now I just want to fire up the engine and see > how it > runs. The Carquest guy couldn't find a part number in his book. (This guy > is > no idiot, either. He's been selling parts for many years.) I said, > "That's > funny I found a part number at the NAPA web site." So, I went to NAPA. > NAPA > guy finds a part number, says he would have to order, and then the bad > news. > NAPA guy says that part number is no longer in production. So..... Maybe > my > local guys don't know the magic decoder ring to find the part number. > ...or... > These things are really going out of production. If that's the case, > anyone > wanting to stay with points may want to buy up a couple extra sets. > In the meantime, I cleaned up my distributor and points. Since I didn't > buy > new points, I didn't get the nifty little packet of grease for the > distributor > cam. Would dielectric grease work as a substitute? > TIA, > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 > > _____________________________________________________________ > Click for travel nursing jobs and see the world. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/REAK6ZpQHyEnTheNrLAcf3OA5wMwzdjGO > agHrYTssK6G6s84Rjk9jo/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 21:08:59 2008 From: Daniel Solomon To: Dave Stoll Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:09:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? i guess i'd have to disagree with #2....... Dave Stoll wrote: > 1. because my 1600 has slim chance of a death rattle coming from the timing > chain.... > 2. once the tires start squealing in a corner the engine size doesn't > matter.... > daveS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory S. Morrison" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:18 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? > > > >> I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things >> being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been >> in >> my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are >> some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go >> with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 21:31:42 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Roadster List" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:32:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: 1966 1600 w/2000 for sale on Craig'sList Hi, gang. This got sent to me by someone who found my Web site. Thought I'd pass it along. Gordon Glasgow From: Ken [mailto:kened@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:27 PM To: me@gordon-glasgow.org Subject: http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/car/613245119.html Gordon, Always appreciated your site. Had to sell my 1600 years ago and now my Dad is selling his. Plz circulate if you find the time. Thanks Ken ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 21:42:40 2008 From: "dave" To: , "'Patti Dwinell'" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:42:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] last message I dunno, but apparently, Patti sent something to me, instead of you, but it didn't go through? Well, if it was bad, this is good, if it was good, this is bad : ) I think? Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: d-solomon@comcast.net [mailto:d-solomon@comcast.net] ??? what'd i miss? -------------- Original message -------------- From: Patti Dwinell > Sorry, for the misdirected response Dave. I meant to respond to Dan's original > post. Maybe I should just stay in the shadows. > > Patti > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Mar 20 22:00:11 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Roadster mailist'" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:00:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? Now OT Reminds me of a Milton Berle quote..."I'll take out enough to win" As far as the subject, I've owned most variations, 66 1600 4spd was a lot more enjoyable around town and felt like driving an antique, the style of the car, not the performance. 69 2000 5 spd is more fun once you get rolling, not as much vintage feel. 69 1600 5 speed, performance was nice all around. Maybe this explains all the people building high and low windshield strokers with 5 speeds? Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hollands Reminds me of my favorite Mark Donohue Quote... "I'll have enough power when I can leave two black streaks from the exit of this corner to the entrance of that one" His response to a question about the adequacy of the roughly 1500HP 917/30. Brian Hollands '69 2000 Tampa FL Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 3/19/2008 9:54 AM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 00:16:49 2008 From: "E Scanlon" To: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:16:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? Two replies: 1) Because... 2) Why do you ask? E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" > snip...why are > some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go > with a 2000? ...snip... > > Greg > SRL31100494 Or is this a not so subtle attempt at having us note your signature line? If so, did you forget to add the "nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-blrrrrrrrrt" at the end of it? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 01:05:40 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] last message OK, guys, I'll re-send the embarrassing "message" so you will all understand what happened. I meant to respond to Dan's "Oil Spin/Points Death" message, but responded to Dave's reply to it instead. When I realized that I addressed it to Dave, when I should have addressed it to Dan, I sent an apology...to Dave, on list. Then I sent the message (with correct name) to Dan, off list. Well, the apology posted to the list, but the original message never did. Now I have (at least) 2 Daves wondering what the heck I'm talking about. Here is the original message, as sent... "Dave, You may have received tons of messages off list, and I don't know if this will help or not, but I'm doing the same thing on a 1500 I bought but haven't installed. Are you spinning the oil pump with reverse on your drill? You should turn the oil pump counter-clockwise. It takes a while for the oil to get to the tiny ports on the valve train... a lot longer than I expected. I took the valve cover off so I could get a good look-see. Don't plug the distributor oil tube, just position it over the hole to lubricate your priming tool. I had to put a piece of rubber tubing on the end of the tube to extend and keep it over the hole. If you spin it too fast, oil will spill out the top... very messy. Keep spinning that sucker and the oil should eventually get up there. I noticed that it starts coming out on #4 first, then 3, 2 and lastly #1. On mine, #1 seem sluggish. I do not know if this is normal or not. I hope this helps. Patti ". So, that's that. I'm sorry for all the confusion. Does anyone else have experience with the use of the Tom Walter oil priming rod? --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 06:57:31 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Roadster List" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:58:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Directions for Bar B-Q For those of you coming to the First Roadster Bar B-Q of the year in two weeks, here are the directions. *2992 Quebec Drive* *Riverside, CA 92504* *(951) 637-8872* *1)* For those of you that can make your way to the 91 frwy, take it towards Riverside/San Bernardino (East), exit Van Buren. the exit lefts you off on Indiana, make a left and a right on Van Buren. Van Buren to Lincoln and go left on Lincoln. Just past the High School make a left on Irving, quick right on Continental and quick left on Quebec Drive. Up on the left, the house with a Roadster in front. *2)* From the 215 Frwy, head toward Riverside and exit Van Buren, go left on Van Buren (you can't go right) and go to Lincoln and make a right. Once on Lincoln follow the above directions of #1. *3)* From the 101 and 210 Frwy head to the 10 Frwy east (toward San Bernardino) take it to the 15 frwy and head towards San Diego, exit onto the 91 frwy towards Riverside and follow the above directions from #1. *4)* From San Bernardino area make your way to the 91 frwy, exit Van Buren and make a left, go to Lincoln and make a right, go to Irving and go right and follow the above directions from #1. See you all in a couple of weeks. Chris -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 08:40:45 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Roadster List" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:41:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Error on directions for Bar B-Q *Hey Y'all,* *I goofed on the directions for the San Bernardino crowd (#4)* ** *Below is the corrected version.* ** *4)* From San Bernardino area make your way to the 91 frwy, exit Adams and make a left, go to Lincoln and make a right, go to Irving and go right and follow the above directions from #1. Chris -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 10:13:24 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:13:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? Paul- I guess it's one of those questions: window or aisle, paper or plastic, 1600 or 2000? My first Datsun Roadsters were all 1600s. Many years ago I actually passed on two 67.5 2000s (a nice driver with a driving "parts" car) in favor of one 1600! At the time I felt I couldn't afford to deal with a potential death rattle. The 1600s seemed to be more reliable too. And all the reviews at the time concluded that the 1600 was the best roadster value available. Then I felt the pull of a well tuned 2000 and that was that. Although some folks have reengineered their 1600s into mini rocket ships with great success. -Greg SRL31100494 On 3/21/08 4:08 AM, "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > Greg, > > The first Datsun roadster I ever drove was a 2000 and the power was > fantastic, but the car wasn't so I kept looking. My 1600 was the first > roadster I found locally that actually had a frame left under it. The rest > had rusted away. So I like 1600s best. Since owning it, I've read so much > about death rattles and the cost of chains and sprockets, that I'm happy I > bought a 1600. Then a couple years back I needed to replace a R16 that I > blew up in a race car, so I stuck a KA24D and 5 speed in my 1600. Guess > what my favorite roadster is now! :-) > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:19 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? > > I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things > being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been in > my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are > some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go > with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. > > Just curious. > > Greg > SRL31100494 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 12:14:40 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:15:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question Andy, I pulled those numbers from the 311s.org threads where people had measured them. The .8 does seem odd since they say one was about twice as thick as the other. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: andycost@embarqmail.com > I was thinking that they were fairly close in thickness. One was like 1/8" and > the other like 1/4". Does anyone have the actual specifications for the > thickness of each plate? Someone said .8" but that seems way too thick. That > would be 100 pounds of steel. > > Andy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Guy" > To: "dave" , "Dewey Hahlbohm" > , "Datsun List" > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:56:14 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question > > Dave, > Thank you for the suggestion on the transmission mount. Great suggestion. > I will use it. > Guy > 67.5 > Chandler, AZ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave" > To: "'Dewey Hahlbohm'" ; "'Datsun List'" > > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question > > > > Everyone pretty much covered the plate, need the thin one. Don't forget > > to get the cheap Chevy trans mount, ~$25.00, 10 minutes of work, will > > never break. > > http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ChevyTrannyMount > > > > Good thing, you can sell off the 5 speed as a kit, make big $$ > > > > I have an extra 4 speed crossmember and driveshaft I was going to put on > > Ebay. If you need, just email. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 12:22:21 2008 From: Matthew Cox To: roadster list Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Question on Engine Rebuild Hey everyone! For fun, I decided to take an engine building class at the community college this semester. The professor told us that we can bring in our own engine to build, so of course I'm going to bring in an R16. I just have a couple of questions for everybody. I have a couple of engines as options, one is my running, driving 67 3-main R16 and the other is a 5-main R16 from a 68 that has been sitting for a few years (I also have a 3-main R16 from a parts car that is complete and I could use). My first inclination is to rebuild the long idle 5-main engine, since that is the one that needs it the most, but then I have a rebuilt engine with no decent car to put it in (the car it's coming from needs MUCH work, many years, and will maybe never be up to snuff. I may actually be selling it soon if I move). The other engine, the running 3-main engine, is in fine shape, as far as I can tell, but I have no idea how long it has been since it was last rebuilt and its valves are noisy (although they haven't been adjusted for a while). Is there anything wrong with rebuilding an engine that doesn't desparately need it? Any negatives? I was thinking that with the running engine, maybe I could add a hotter cam and maybe a couple of other things (headers, exhaust) to boost performance without going the whole stroker route right now (all my money is currently tied up in an extensive house remodel - so long, car paint fund). Any other ideas on performance mods I can make that aren't too extensive and expensive to take car of while I'm at it? What kind of HP growth can I expect from any of these? On the other hand, if I rebuild the sitting 5-main, I will have a good engine that I could also do performance mods to if I wanted. I could always hold the engine as a spare, sell it (how much?), put it in my runner, or keep it in the original car and plan on finishing that project MUCH later. Anyway, I've rambled too long. I guess I'm just asking what you guys would do, since this is my first engine rebuild. I'm excited! Just send any ideas, tips and warnings I need to hear... Matthew in Phoenix 67 1600 Driver 68 1600 Long sitting project 66 1600 Parts car with compete engine --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 13:15:25 2008 From: "James Fogg" To: "roadster list" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:11:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question on Engine Rebuild > Is there anything wrong with rebuilding an engine that doesn't > desparately need it? Any negatives? I was thinking that with the running > engine, maybe I could add a hotter cam and maybe a couple of other things > (headers, exhaust) to boost performance without going the whole stroker > route right now (all my money is currently tied up in an extensive house > remodel - so long, car paint fund). Any other ideas on performance mods I > can make that aren't too extensive and expensive to take car of while I'm > at it? What kind of HP growth can I expect from any of these? The only thing that comes to mind is the amount of material removed. You can only remove so much before you run out. If you deck the block, align-bore the crank journals or cam journals, bore for oversize pistons or anything else the removes metal you will eventually run out of metal. If your cylinders don't need boring (no odd shapes, tapers or wear), then a nice honing and new rings will liven up an older engine. Older engines can benefit from a valve job, and a fancy cam is always fun, though you might not think so after you get done tuning the carbs and ignition for the new cam profile. Rebuild time is a great time to repaint the engine, and everything else under the hood. When you are done you'll have an engine that you can trust, and it should solve any leaks you might have. And the next time you rebuild a Datsun engine you'll be faster. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 14:10:44 2008 From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:11:19 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question I noticed that too. It also says if you use 2 of the 1600 plates it will work with the 5 speed. I wonder if the thickness is .08 rather than .8??? I looked for an author of the 4speedto5speedswap, but could not find credit for the writer. Can someone confirm thickness of 1600 vs. 2000 front covers? Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: ppeters914@comcast.net >Sent: Mar 21, 2008 12:15 PM >To: datsun-roadsters >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question > >Andy, > >I pulled those numbers from the 311s.org threads where people had measured them. The .8 does seem odd since they say one was about twice as thick as the other. > >Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: andycost@embarqmail.com >> I was thinking that they were fairly close in thickness. One was like 1/8" and >> the other like 1/4". Does anyone have the actual specifications for the >> thickness of each plate? Someone said .8" but that seems way too thick. That >> would be 100 pounds of steel. >> >> Andy >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Guy" >> To: "dave" , "Dewey Hahlbohm" >> , "Datsun List" >> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:56:14 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question >> >> Dave, >> Thank you for the suggestion on the transmission mount. Great suggestion. >> I will use it. >> Guy >> 67.5 >> Chandler, AZ >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "dave" >> To: "'Dewey Hahlbohm'" ; "'Datsun List'" >> >> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bell housing front cover question >> >> >> > Everyone pretty much covered the plate, need the thin one. Don't forget >> > to get the cheap Chevy trans mount, ~$25.00, 10 minutes of work, will >> > never break. >> > http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ChevyTrannyMount >> > >> > Good thing, you can sell off the 5 speed as a kit, make big $$ >> > >> > I have an extra 4 speed crossmember and driveshaft I was going to put on >> > Ebay. If you need, just email. >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 15:06:27 2008 From: "Joe Russo" To: "'roadster list'" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:03:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question on Engine Rebuild On the other hand, if I rebuild the sitting 5-main, I will have a good engine that I could also do performance mods to if I wanted. I could always hold the engine as a spare, sell it (how much?), put it in my runner, or keep it in the original car and plan on finishing that project MUCH later. Matt - I have a similar dilemma. I have (2) running roadsters with U20s. Each, with unknown actual mileage. One has shimmed upper chain tensioner to address the evil-L death rattle (for now) (Thanks Gordon). I have a R16 sitting on a stand and a spare U20 with 40K miles on a stand... My plan (although start date is undetermined) is to rebuild both of the out of car engines (as a hobby), clean and paint them, rebuild, replace, re-gasket everything that needs it and then swap them into the running cars. I want to do it sooner than later because as we all know...U20 parts will become extinct soon. This approach also allows me to drive both cars without fear of breaking one (or both) and does not but my engine building hobby on the critical path toward enjoying my cars. One car is a SPL and one is an SRL so the SPL with get its numbers matching engine and 4 spd back. :-) Joe ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 16:19:07 2008 From: toolmansj2@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:19:29 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting Do I need to use lock washers along with the big thick flat washers seems there would barely be enough room for locks. thanks Shaun -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 16:54:52 2008 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: , "'roadster list'" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:54:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting You can double nut the stud and back it out. Not sure if you need the lock washer, but it hasn't hurt anything on my motor. Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of toolmansj2@comcast.net Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:19 PM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting Do I need to use lock washers along with the big thick flat washers seems there would barely be enough room for locks. thanks Shaun -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 17:00:27 2008 From: "Mike H." To: Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:06:27 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? OR BOTH MAYBE?? I've only driven and owned the one roadster I have. A bone stock '67 1600 4-speed, and now modified to a stroker with a five speed, GB dizzy and the late, Type B (RCB) steering box. Can I say I've "owned" and driven two roadsters now? Gregory S. Morrison I like the early flat panel dash, larger engine and tighter steering better in the modified version. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Gregory S. Morrison" ; Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 v 2000? OR BOTH MAYBE?? > Wellllllllllll......I have both so there you go. I would love to have a short windshield with either engine, but that is not an option as I am too tall to drive them. But I must say, my 1600 is getting a five speed tranny eventually. It just begs for one more gear, even more so since I started running a GB dizzy. And one of the two runners might end up with a flat dash as I love that look as well. > > PEACE :-) > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- "Gregory S. Morrison" wrote: > > ============= > I've seen several ground up restorations of 1600s and 2000s. All things > being equal, the cost is very similar. So, other than "because it's been in > my family for years", or "because I like 1600s better than 2000s", why are > some people pouring a ton of money into restoring a stock 1600? Why not go > with a 2000? Same car, but with more gears and more power. > > Just curious. > > Greg > SRL31100494 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Mar 21 18:44:08 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" , , Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:44:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Death of points forever?? RE: Death of Points All part of my evil plan.... Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 22 06:57:10 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: joek@camberconstruction.com, toolmansj2@comcast.net, Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:57:40 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting In a message dated 3/21/2008 3:55:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, joek@camberconstruction.com writes: Subject: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting Do I need to use lock washers along with the big thick flat washers seems there would barely be enough room for locks. thanks Shaun The heads came with two lengths of studs. Long ones where the bridge washers go and short ones where they are not needed. It's very common for them to end up either in the wrong hole or replaced with incorrect studs. Lock washers are a good idea. keith **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 22 07:30:32 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: oscilloscope500@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:30:39 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question on Engine Rebuild In a message dated 3/21/2008 11:23:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, oscilloscope500@yahoo.com writes: Is there anything wrong with rebuilding an engine that doesn't desparately need it? Any negatives? I was thinking that with the running engine, maybe I could add a hotter cam and maybe a couple of other things (headers, exhaust) to boost performance without going the whole stroker route right now (all my money is currently tied up in an extensive house remodel - so long, car paint fund). Any other ideas on performance mods I can make that aren't too extensive and expensive to take car of while I'm at it? What kind of HP growth can I expect from any of these? Rebuilding one that is still intact has benefits. Chances are the head is straight saving that expense. You don't have to deal with spun bearings, gouged cylinders, broken timing chains, burnt valves, and such things. It should be more learning about rebuilding the engine and less in disaster recovery. The less time you spend on fixing broke things the more you spend on fast things. The r16/u20 bottom end is good for 200hp if put together properly. Cylinder head porting and valve size are a big bottleneck on the r16. A cam, valve and port work should be the best bang for the buck. There is some science to port and valve sizing that is a bit more than I plan to cover here. keith **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 22 08:04:48 2008 From: "Mike H." To: Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:10:37 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting I'm sure there might be some disagreement, but I have found what works for me. I used to use lock washers on the manifolds, and found it unnecessary (for me, anyway). I have used brass nuts on the two dozen old Volvos I have owned over the years, without a problem when torqued properly. I decided to use them on the roadster as well. They work well, especially on the exhaust collector / front pipe. They don't seize from heat like steel nuts. You can torque them tight and are still very easy to remove. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting > In a message dated 3/21/2008 3:55:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > joek@camberconstruction.com writes: > > Subject: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting > > Do I need to use lock washers along with the big thick flat washers seems > there would barely be enough room for locks. > thanks Shaun > > > > The heads came with two lengths of studs. Long ones where the bridge washers > go and short ones where they are not needed. It's very common for them to > end up either in the wrong hole or replaced with incorrect studs. Lock washers > are a good idea. > > keith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Mar 22 08:35:26 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Joe Kinstle'" Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:35:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting You can get a hardware kit fir a reasonable price on Ebay, Datsun Parts Express. It's nice to have the right stuff if yours is a mish-mosh. The correct hardware is a 12mm wrench size, "normal" nuts in that bolt size are 13mm. IIRC, mine has lockwashers. Dave ECR -----Original Message----- From: Joe Kinstle [mailto:joek@camberconstruction.com] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 6:55 PM To: toolmansj2@comcast.net; 'roadster list' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] help carb and exhaust mounting You can double nut the stud and back it out. Not sure if you need