From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 1 09:57:26 2008 From: Jeff Torres To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] SOlvang SHow Update Hi All, Just a little show reminder here. Only 10 days before early registration ends and late registration begins. Only 25 more days 'til the show!!!! On another note, we recently moved(homes) and I have not set up my home computer yet that lets me update the web site. If you have sent registrations in, and were wondering if I got them, yes I have! Keep 'em coming! Jeff T. WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 1 11:38:59 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: jtorres67@sbcglobal.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:39:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SOlvang SHow Update Hey All, For those of you who haven't registered, GET OFF YOUR ASSES? and register! If you don't, you'll miss out on all the fun and the opportunity to see me yet one more time.? Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Jeff Torres To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 8:57 am Subject: [Roadsters] SOlvang SHow Update Hi All, Just a little show reminder here. Only 10 days before early registration ends and late registration begins. Only 25 more days 'til the show!!!! On another note, we recently moved(homes) and I have not set up my home computer yet that lets me update the web site. If you have sent registrations in, and were wondering if I got them, yes I have! Keep 'em coming! Jeff T. WWW.SOLVANGSHOW.COM You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 1 20:35:31 2008 From: Gerardo Magana To: tminerpcav@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SOlvang SHow Update Hey Tim, Thats pretty funny, I sure would like to meet up with you and talk cars!! The bad news is I am not going to the show this year due to an important family event (My son Eric is having his First Communion the same weekend as the show), I sure am going to miss meeting up with all of you. So like Tim said, get your registrations in, dont wait til the last minute, Solvang is always a great show!!! Later, Gerardo. --- tminerpcav@aol.com wrote: > Hey All, > > > > For those of you who haven't registered, GET OFF > YOUR ASSES? and register! > > If you don't, you'll miss out on all the fun and the > opportunity to see me yet one more time.? > > Tim Miner > > > You are subscribed as gerardomagana@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 1 21:59:49 2008 From: "jtorres67" To: Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:00:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Registered Participants Hey All, I am struggling with my new internet connection with Satellite internet..Wild Blue.....Lets just say..it is not dial up......but it is def no DSL...Sooooo...here are people who registered, but are not on the web site yet. Hope this settles some nerves. 1. John and Arlene Over 2. John Friederich 3. Victor Laury 4. Gerald Wheaton 5. Leonel Del Cid 6. Tom Roberts 7. Dennis Louthan 8. Tim Miner 9. Mark Jacobs There it is.....the latest adds...I haven't been to the post office in a few days..so there may be more and I will notify when I get them. Thanks!!! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 2 12:32:28 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:33:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravans Hey folks! I am sure that for those of us going to Solvang, we are busily getting our cars ready and adding any last minute things to our wish lists in preperation for the show. Shari and I are getting our own 1966 1600 ready to go and while I was going through some things it occured to me that I have not seen any discussions about any caravans that will be heading North to Solvang from Southern California. So I thought I would go ahead and start the dialog and see what other people are planning to do. I usually head out on Friday, although I know there are a lot of people who get up early on Saturday morning to make the show. For those of us who head out on Friday, I am proposing two stops to meet and pick up people heading up to the show. The first stop would be at the Irvine Spectrum, right where I-405 and I-5 meet in Irvine, and the second stop would be at the bowling alley in Westlake Village up in the San Fernando valley of highway 101. No exact times yet, and I would be glad to get other people's input as to my proposed locations and times. It has worked out pretty well in the past and should again. So please drop a line and let me know what you think. I think Solvang is going to be another great show this year and I look forward to seeing everyone and their cars. See you on the road! Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ instantaccess_042008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 2 16:10:07 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: solex675@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:10:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravans That would be the bowling alley in Woodland Hills, in the San Fernando Valley. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Murphy To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:33 am Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravans Hey folks! I am sure that for those of us going to Solvang, we are busily getting our cars ready and adding any last minute things to our wish lists in preperation for the show. Shari and I are getting our own 1966 1600 ready to go and while I was going through some things it occured to me that I have not seen any discussions about any caravans that will be heading North to Solvang from Southern California. So I thought I would go ahead and start the dialog and see what other people are planning to do. I usually head out on Friday, although I know there are a lot of people who get up early on Saturday morning to make the show. For those of us who head out on Friday, I am proposing two stops to meet and pick up people heading up to the show. The first stop would be at the Irvine Spectrum, right where I-405 and I-5 meet in Irvine, and the second stop would be at the bowling alley in Westlake Village up in the San Fernando valley of highway 101. No exact times yet, and I would be glad to get other people's input as to my proposed locations and times. It has worked out pretty well in the past and should again. So please drop a line and let me know what you think. I think Solvang is going to be another great show this year and I look forward to seeing everyone and their cars. See you on the road! Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ instantaccess_042008 You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 2 19:35:03 2008 From: Pat Horne To: DATSUN LIST Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:35:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [OT] No April Fool's jokes this year? I had been looking forward to our annual April Fool's posting, but didn't see even one. Maybe it/they was there, but I totally missed it/them. Anyway, just to show how gullible some folks are, and to appease the Roadster karma gods, I am posting this after the fact. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/1/newsid_2819000/2819261.stm Peace, Pat -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 2 20:57:01 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Roadster List" Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:57:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Last reminder Just a reminder on the bar B-Q this Sunday, April 6 at 12:30 to...whenever Looks like we are going to have a nice turn out for the Bar B-Q. If you are coming and have not yet sent in a RSVP please do so right away so we can make sure there is enough food to go round. See you all on Sunday! Chris 2992 Quebec Dr Riverside, CA 92504 951-637-8872 -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 2 22:16:41 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , , Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 23:16:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravans Andrew/Linda, There are at least five of us who are planning to drive from San Diego/Vista up to Solvang on Friday. Paul Gabriel of El Cajon is the ring leader, I believe. Three of us are from Indiana. I bought a '67-1/2 from Paul, and will be picking that car up. There are also two guys from Indianapolis who have cars at Les Cannaday's in Vista. We should be able to coordinate some how. Paul, Can you weigh in on this? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravans > That would be the bowling alley in Woodland Hills, in the San Fernando > Valley. > Linda > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Murphy > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:33 am > Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravans > > Hey folks! > > I am sure that for those of us going to Solvang, we are busily getting > our > cars ready and adding any last minute things to our wish lists in > preperation > for the show. Shari and I are getting our own 1966 1600 ready to go and > while > I was going through some things it occured to me that I have not seen > any > discussions about any caravans that will be heading North to Solvang > from > Southern California. So I thought I would go ahead and start the dialog > and > see what other people are planning to do. > > I usually head out on Friday, although I know there are a lot of people > who > get up early on Saturday morning to make the show. For those of us who > head > out on Friday, I am proposing two stops to meet and pick up people > heading up > to the show. The first stop would be at the Irvine Spectrum, right > where I-405 > and I-5 meet in Irvine, and the second stop would be at the bowling > alley in > Westlake Village up in the San Fernando valley of highway 101. > > No exact times yet, and I would be glad to get other people's input as > to my > proposed locations and times. It has worked out pretty well in the past > and > should again. So please drop a line and let me know what you think. I > think > Solvang is going to be another great show this year and I look forward > to > seeing everyone and their cars. > > See you on the road! > > Andrew Murphy > 1966 1600 > _________________________________________________________________ > More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live > Messenger. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ > instantaccess_042008 > You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 2 22:51:28 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 21:51:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ovoid Gasket Hi Looking for the rubber gasket that sits below the cigarette lighter (I think ) . Mine has turned to silid rubber and in spite of all softening it is cracked beyond all repairt - does any one have a salveageable one' Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 06:36:29 2008 From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:36:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Free parts are taken, but cool motorcycle OT Hey everybody, Tim is getting the transmission parts. The bonus is that he lives near and I don't have to package them. Thanks Tim. Off topic, but pretty cool if you are into such things. My Dad works for an auctioneer in Kansas. They have an auction this weekend. There are many old cars, trucks, engines and the usual farm auction stuff. And, an original '49 Harley panhead. The odometer shows 1800 miles, hasn't seen the light of day since the late 70's. Interested? I thought it would make a great gift to yours truly, but my Dad just laughed. Cool photos at http://www.thummelauction.com Ken ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 07:15:48 2008 From: Pat Horne To: peter harrison Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:15:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ovoid Gasket Peter, You might try using an O-ring. If you don't use the lighter as a lighter it won't get hot enough to possibly cause problems with it melting. Peace, Pat Thusly spake peter harrison: > Hi > > Looking for the rubber gasket that sits below the cigarette lighter (I think ) > . Mine has turned to silid rubber and in spite of all softening it is cracked > beyond all repairt - does any one have a salveageable one' > > > Peter > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 08:09:50 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:10:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Some 'project' ads seen, CA Craigslist Just saw this ad on CL in LA, might be a jumping off point / candidate for an engine swap, or 1600 daily driver. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/car/626422030.html Or this one in Sacto has been there for a while, anyone taken a look at this? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/628214776.html This 1200 coupe, although not a roadster, showed up on CL in Sacto, car is in Reno. One of my favorite body styles. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/621756483.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 08:19:44 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: roadsters@hornesystemstx.com, granvillecomputing@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:20:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ovoid Gasket Harbor Freight has a giant O ring box assortment for cheap. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pat Horne To: peter harrison Cc: datsun Sent: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 6:15 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ovoid Gasket Peter, You might try using an O-ring. If you don't use the lighter as a lighter it won't get hot enough to possibly cause problems with it melting. Peace, Pat Thusly spake peter harrison: > Hi > > Looking for the rubber gasket that sits below the cigarette lighter (I think ) > . Mine has turned to silid rubber and in spite of all softening it is cracked > beyond all repairt - does any one have a salveageable one' > > > Peter > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 11:12:06 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:12:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ovoid Gasket / Plug My mistake - I should have said PLUG - it's about 1.5 ins long, 1 in wide and about 1 in deep. Fills the hole under the cigarrette lighter and stops road crud coming in. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 11:56:42 2008 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] volvo conversion hi everyone i'm in los angeles, and am seeking a machine shop to both reduce the diameter of my rotors, and press in new studs. i've called several places, both machine shops and tire places, and no one will cut the rotors. can anyone recommend a shop in the greater LA area who will? i know Stan said that any shop with a brake lathe should be able to do it, but i'm not finding one. thanks in advance steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 12:07:19 2008 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 11:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] volvo conversion, part deux hi again it turns out that mark degroff, the cylinder head guru located near dean's shop, can and will do both the rotors and the studs. woohoo! s 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 16:00:26 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:00:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rebuilt choke cables Some time last year some one on this list was offering for sale re-built choke cables. Please contact me off list. I have some cores to give you. Pay it forward with free parts for Roadster Karma. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 17:58:52 2008 From: "dave" To: , "'DATSUN LIST'" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:59:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [OT] No April Fool's jokes this year? That was the joke...Made you look!!!! Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Pat Horne [mailto:roadsters@hornesystemstx.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:36 PM To: DATSUN LIST Subject: [Roadsters] [OT] No April Fool's jokes this year? I had been looking forward to our annual April Fool's posting, but didn't see even one. Maybe it/they was there, but I totally missed it/them. Anyway, just to show how gullible some folks are, and to appease the Roadster karma gods, I am posting this after the fact. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/1/newsid_2819000/ 2819261.stm Peace, Pat -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 20:50:47 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:50:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Saturday Caravan There have been recent threads re Friday caravanning to Solvang. Anyone interested in a Saturday caravan? We can start at my house (Van Nuys) for coffee and stuff and head out from there. Please let me know. BTW - who is going on Iron Bottom - I know Fergus, Victor, Les (in as yet an undetermined car) and I are - any other roadsters ?? Peter (818) 448 3181 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 3 21:45:29 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:46:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Side Vents Since I am having Eliza repainted etc. I bought new window vent rubbers from Dean since the old ones were cracked and indeed falling off. I was thinking of hacving the frames rechromed when I noticed that the insides are more of a flat/matte finish. Probabl;y some DOT safety measure. Anyhoo - anyone have any idea how to recreate the interior finish ?? Thx Peter 818 448 3181 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 09:23:15 2008 From: Dan Zubkoff To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY Re: '63 1500 Description http://tinyurl.com/6q7hy7 My Opinion-> The seller is selling a 1967.5 model SPL311, not a 1961 Prototype Datsun. Though the seller concedes it could be a fluke problem with DMV, but the car is represented in large type as possibly a '1961 Japanese Prototype'.. ".....perhaps it's a real-deal prototype from 1961 of what would be become the 1967 Datsun Fairlady Roadster, the DMV tells me this car was manufactured and registered in California in 1961 but first sold by a dealer in the United States in 1967." The seller openly & clearly concedes that he doesn't know if this is a 1961 car. However, the facts point to simply that the California DMV made a clerical mistake and switched a digit 7 for a digit 1 on the title. The car is missing the unique features of the 1961 Prototype SPL310 vehicle. Also, the fact that a member on this list owns the Prototype left hand drive vehicle shown at the New York Autoshow makes the seller's claim suspect. http://tinyurl.com/3k53an So, roadster experts out there....Do you think this is a special 1961 Prototype car or simply a 1967.5 SPL311 with a small typo on the title? Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX PS: In 1961 in California the original type license plates would be the Yellow License Plates (1956-1962). http://tinyurl.com/5meloa Seth Asher wrote: People seem not to read the entire ebay post, combined with not understanding the rules of ebay. Below user Ruth comments that the description said something different before, but descriptions can't be changed once there are bids, so it couldn't have said something different last time she looked. Regarding user Mark Dent's comment, the description doesn't say anything refutable about family -- it says his family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this model car. Why can't he know the history regardless of how long he's owned the car? From: Ruth ...various members of my family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this car >Coulda sworn that said "has owned this car" last time I looked. From: "Mark Dent" > that text in the description about family and knowing the history > is pure BS ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 09:36:55 2008 From: Tom PRATHER To: Dan Zubkoff , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY Re: '63 1500 Hi, I agree that this is a later model, earlier models had a less of a flair to the front fender and a trunk latch on the trunk lid. Also trunk hinges were visible on the trunk. Dan Zubkoff wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6q7hy7 My Opinion-> The seller is selling a 1967.5 model SPL311, not a 1961 Prototype Datsun. Though the seller concedes it could be a fluke problem with DMV, but the car is represented in large type as possibly a '1961 Japanese Prototype'.. ".....perhaps it's a real-deal prototype from 1961 of what would be become the 1967 Datsun Fairlady Roadster, the DMV tells me this car was manufactured and registered in California in 1961 but first sold by a dealer in the United States in 1967." The seller openly & clearly concedes that he doesn't know if this is a 1961 car. However, the facts point to simply that the California DMV made a clerical mistake and switched a digit 7 for a digit 1 on the title. The car is missing the unique features of the 1961 Prototype SPL310 vehicle. Also, the fact that a member on this list owns the Prototype left hand drive vehicle shown at the New York Autoshow makes the seller's claim suspect. http://tinyurl.com/3k53an So, roadster experts out there....Do you think this is a special 1961 Prototype car or simply a 1967.5 SPL311 with a small typo on the title? Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX PS: In 1961 in California the original type license plates would be the Yellow License Plates (1956-1962). http://tinyurl.com/5meloa Seth Asher wrote: People seem not to read the entire ebay post, combined with not understanding the rules of ebay. Below user Ruth comments that the description said something different before, but descriptions can't be changed once there are bids, so it couldn't have said something different last time she looked. Regarding user Mark Dent's comment, the description doesn't say anything refutable about family -- it says his family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this model car. Why can't he know the history regardless of how long he's owned the car? From: Ruth ...various members of my family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this car >Coulda sworn that said "has owned this car" last time I looked. From: "Mark Dent" > that text in the description about family and knowing the history > is pure BS ________________________________________ You are subscribed as tomet9@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 09:47:55 2008 From: "Seth Asher" To: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:48:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun ebay question Can anyone tell me not just the rule of the group, but whether it generally annoys people, when users send a link to their auction site when they are selling their Fairlady Roadster? If it would generally be OK with everyone, I am auctioning my car on eBay, it's a really nice car and I would like to let the group know by sending the link. Seth Asher www.MyLoanMarket.com Commercial & Residential Mortgages * Business Loans Construction Loans * Consulting * Entertainment Finance Lending Nationwide, Canada & Mexico MyLoanMarket.com - OlympiaWest 8383 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 99 Beverly Hills, CA 90211 (310) 623-2690 (voice) (310) 388-1748 (fax) sasher@olympiawest.com ****************** DISCLAIMER: OlympiaWest is a direct lender and broker -- it is not a savings and loan or depository banking institution. Please refer to MyLoanMarket.com for more information. This email message and any attachments hereto are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution of the information contained herein is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by replying to the message and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 09:57:19 2008 From: PDFenter@aol.com To: zubkoff@sbcglobal.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:57:41 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Title may say one thing but look at the VIN SPL311********, 67 1/2 1600. Phil Fenter **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 10:02:45 2008 From: Leigh Brooks To: Datsun list Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:03:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY It's clearly a '67.5. The seller is trying to profit off of a DMV snafu. Why put a pair of black plates on the car for photos? Why not take a better picture of the ID plate. Why would Nissan build a "prototype" 6.5 years early? Leigh Brooks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 10:44:55 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Dan Zubkoff" Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:45:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY Re: '63 1500 well, at least all of us on the list know it's not a prototype.. definitely a 67.5 1600 regardless of whatever else the auction may say about it. doesn't appear to be a bad car, it's a shame he muddled up the whole auction process with this "prototype" nonsense. I sent him an e-mail thru ebay to enlighten him and give him a definitive answer- wonder if he'll add that to his comments on the auction... I still have what is believed to be the only known existing prototype 1500 with documentation from Nissan Corporate as to it's authenticity. it's rough, but it's available. not cheap though... numbers matching car. SPL310-00003 is getting ever closer to being a driver with paint and interior done, would field inquiries on that one too. Craig Halsted ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 12:30:49 2008 From: "Seth Asher" To: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:20:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: datsun ebay question / 61/67 1600 Roadster Hi Roadsterites, due to good positive responses to my question, I am posting the link to my auction. Within the next couple days, I'll be updating the auction with my more youtubes. Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-61-P-type-Datsun-Fairlady-Roadster-Con vertible_W0QQitemZ330224675726QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330224675726 Unless anyone objects, I'll post it again the weekend the auction's going to end. I think this is a really nice example of a 1600 I have, so if anyone knows of someone interested in one or has been encouraging his or her friend to buy one, please forward the link to them. It would be easy to ship this California car anywhere in the country. Thanks for all your help. Seth ________________________________ From: steven boortz [mailto:vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:40 AM To: Seth Asher Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ebay question i welcome such links. s 675MIZU ----- Original Message ---- From: Seth Asher To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 8:48:07 AM Subject: [Roadsters] datsun ebay question Can anyone tell me not just the rule of the group, but whether it generally annoys people, when users send a link to their auction site when they are selling their Fairlady Roadster? If it would generally be OK with everyone, I am auctioning my car on eBay, it's a really nice car and I would like to let the group know by sending the link. Seth Asher www.MyLoanMarket.com Commercial & Residential Mortgages * Business Loans Construction Loans * Consulting * Entertainment Finance Lending Nationwide, Canada & Mexico MyLoanMarket.com - OlympiaWest 8383 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 99 Beverly Hills, CA 90211 (310) 623-2690 (voice) (310) 388-1748 (fax) sasher@olympiawest.com ****************** DISCLAIMER: OlympiaWest is a direct lender and broker -- it is not a savings and loan or depository banking institution. Please refer to MyLoanMarket.com for more information. This email message and any attachments hereto are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copy or distribution of the information contained herein is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by replying to the message and destroy all copies of the original message. You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 13:40:10 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:38:10 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ebay question No boddah me! Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Seth Asher" > Can anyone tell me not just the rule of the group, but whether it > generally annoys people, when users send a link to their auction site > when they are selling their Fairlady Roadster? > > If it would generally be OK with everyone, I am auctioning my car on > eBay, it's a really nice car and I would like to let the group know by > sending the link. > > > > Seth Asher > www.MyLoanMarket.com > Commercial & Residential Mortgages * Business Loans > Construction Loans * Consulting * Entertainment Finance > Lending Nationwide, Canada & Mexico > MyLoanMarket.com - OlympiaWest > 8383 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 99 > Beverly Hills, CA 90211 > (310) 623-2690 (voice) > (310) 388-1748 (fax) > sasher@olympiawest.com > ****************** > DISCLAIMER: > > OlympiaWest is a direct lender and broker -- it is not a savings and > loan or depository banking institution. Please refer to MyLoanMarket.com > for more information. This email message and any attachments hereto are > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, > use, disclosure, copy or distribution of the information contained > herein is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by replying to the message and destroy all copies of > the original message. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 15:40:24 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: shifty@shiftco.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:37:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY This guy is a f__kin' idiot.? He's got a cheeseball car and he's trying to trump up the value on some unsuspecting fool. Notice there's?no reserve. At least he's smart enough to take what he can get. Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Leigh Brooks To: Datsun list Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 9:03 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY It's clearly a '67.5. The seller is trying to profit off of a DMV snafu. Why put a pair of black plates on the car for photos? Why not take a better picture of the ID plate. Why would Nissan build a "prototype" 6.5 years early? Leigh Brooks You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 15:50:16 2008 From: Frank Roggeband To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT 510 wagon on Ontario Z Car website Greetings, Its been a while since I posted anything. Yes I am still around and my 67 is still split between the garage and the basement. Still a work in progress. If anyone would like to check it out, a photo of my 510 wagon is on the main page of the Ontario Z-car website. www.ontariozcar.com Just an example of what we frost-bitten Canadian boys get up to when the snow flies. Some day the roadster will look this good. In the mean time other projects include a 74 honda cb360t and a 77 Honda civic wagon that has been converted to rear wheel drive. The honda wagon will be getting a roll cage and a Chevy small block 400! Quarter mile car all the way. As I see it 0 to whatever in the time it takes to crap your pants! Later Frank. 67 1600, 71 510 wagon, 89 toyota daily driver, 74 cb360t and 77 Honda wagon Hamilton Ontario ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 15:55:03 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:55:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY Given the disclaimer below as contained in the eBay offering - whether the guy is a f^&%'ing idiot or not, it strikes me that he is uninformed and ready to admit it. Honestly, I don't get the fuss about this - and for the expected price - probably $3,250 eventually, looks like quite a good deal IMVHO. Not too keen on the whitewalls - but that is just perspective. NOTE: I want to emphasize that I really don't know what year this car is, or whether it is a prototype or not. If you look at the history / Japanese Roadster pages and then Fairlady Prototypes section of fairlady.org you can see the right-hand drive car unveiled at the 1961 Tokyo Motorshow looks strikingly like this car, but obviously that's not conclusive. http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Prototypes.htm The same prototype was also shown in New York in 1962. There are many people more expert with these cars than I am. I have been told it is indeed a 1961 prototype. I have been told it isn't. I have been told it's not a 1967, but rather a 1967 and a half. I have also been told it's neither a 1961, 1967, or a 1967.5, but rather that Nissan/Datsun often mis-printed the years on many of their cars, or were not consistent in how they used VIN and engine numbers. If any of that is important to you, please do your homework, as the car is sold as-is and I leave the responsibility for ascertaining information about what this unique item is to you. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 16:00:16 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:00:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Still Looking for a 510 wagon There was one on eBay that Les checked out for me and pronounced it good but it went for 4250+. Any consensus on the worth of a 510 wagon ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 18:17:27 2008 From: fairlady66@gmail.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Photos from Chris Breyer - Upholstery of Seats and [email_webshotsBW_138x37.gif]-[email_webshotsBW_138x37.gif] _________________________________________________________________ From: fairlady66@gmail.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Hey Y'all, I finally finshed reupholstering the roadster Seats. It took awhile to do but I enjoyed it. Check out the process from start to finish. I don't have any pictures of the seats in the car yet, I will take those on Sunday and post it in here with the rest. have a great weekend. 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[promo_288x154.gif]-[promo_288x154.gif] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 18:21:17 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: Larry Braddock Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller Hey, Larry! Isn't this the same "Seth Asher" that bought your 63 for a song and resold it 2 weeks later (for a nice fat profit) as a family heirloom? If I recall, that whole mess caused a big stink all over this board! Patti --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 20:34:14 2008 From: "dave" To: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:33:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 146 It's pretty simple, IMHO VIN number, obvious. Even if that was changed, I would make a 99% sure guess that dual master cylinders didn't exist in 1961, and nether did an aluminum head for these motors. so, either ignorance or intentional misstatements on the description. Buyer beware and if you don't do the research, deserve what you get. On a good note, I like the tan interior, and if it is as described, aside from the prototype fairytale, might be a great car for $3000.oo. I wouldn't buy it sight unseen, but a good look over would confirm condition. This whole prototype thing might backfire on him...If people think it's BS, less bidders, lower price, someone may get a deal. Have DMV correct the typo, all good. Dave Brisco ECR ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 20:35:01 2008 From: "dave" To: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:34:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 146 It's pretty simple, IMHO VIN number, obvious. Even if that was changed, I would make a 99% sure guess that dual master cylinders didn't exist in 1961, and nether did an aluminum head for these motors. so, either ignorance or intentional misstatements on the description. Buyer beware and if you don't do the research, deserve what you get. On a good note, I like the tan interior, and if it is as described, aside from the prototype fairytale, might be a great car for $3000.oo. I wouldn't buy it sight unseen, but a good look over would confirm condition. This whole prototype thing might backfire on him...If people think it's BS, less bidders, lower price, someone may get a deal. Have DMV correct the typo, all good. Dave Brisco ECR ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 21:02:44 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "dave" , Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:03:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 146 There's no question that the later body style did not exist, even in prototype form, in 1961. I'd want a REAL close personal look at this car before spending any money on it. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 146 > It's pretty simple, IMHO VIN number, obvious. Even if that was > changed, I would make a 99% sure guess that dual master cylinders didn't > exist in 1961, and nether did an aluminum head for these motors. so, > either ignorance or intentional misstatements on the description. > > Buyer beware and if you don't do the research, deserve what you get. > > On a good note, I like the tan interior, and if it is as described, > aside from the prototype fairytale, might be a great car for $3000.oo. I > wouldn't buy it sight unseen, but a good look over would confirm > condition. This whole prototype thing might backfire on him...If people > think it's BS, less bidders, lower price, someone may get a deal. Have > DMV correct the typo, all good. > > Dave Brisco > ECR > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 21:20:52 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Seth Asher'" Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:18:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: datsun ebay question / 61/67 1600 Roadster Sounds like you got a lot of 'Splaining to do, Lucy... So what's the deal with the whole prototype thing? Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Seth Asher [mailto:sasher@olympiawest.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:21 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] FW: datsun ebay question / 61/67 1600 Roadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 21:34:15 2008 From: steven boortz To: dave , Seth Asher Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: datsun ebay question / 61/67 1600 Roadster i have to say, i actually really like the color combo with the big white walls. and i'm not sure why. too, did you see it has a 2 litre radiator? s 675MIZU ----- Original Message ---- From: dave To: Seth Asher Cc: " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 8:18:02 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: datsun ebay question / 61/67 1600 Roadster Sounds like you got a lot of 'Splaining to do, Lucy... So what's the deal with the whole prototype thing? Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Seth Asher [mailto:sasher@olympiawest.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:21 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] FW: datsun ebay question / 61/67 1600 Roadster You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 4 22:11:00 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller Note: forwarded message attached. --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. X-Apparently-To: fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com via 206.190.37.65; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:04:04 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [68.168.78.199] Authentication-Results: mta264.mail.re4.yahoo.com from=ca.rr.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig) Received: from 68.168.78.199 (EHLO mta9.adelphia.net) (68.168.78.199) by mta264.mail.re4.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:04:02 -0700 Received: from owner4d7e0adce ([76.170.63.184]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20080405020446.XVGF25784.mta9.adelphia.net@owner4d7e0adce> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:04:46 -0400 From: "Larry Braddock" To: "Patti Dwinell" References: <240515.77890.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:04:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Content-Length: 1367 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Same guy. Like I said earlier, its my f--up for selling it cheap. But calling it a "heirloom" on ebay, and a "family heirloom" on craigslist was sleazier than sleazy. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Patti Dwinell To: Larry Braddock Cc: All list Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller Hey, Larry! Isn't this the same "Seth Asher" that bought your 63 for a song and resold it 2 weeks later (for a nice fat profit) as a family heirloom? If I recall, that whole mess caused a big stink all over this board! Patti ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 04:48:49 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Patti Dwinell" Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 06:49:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller IDear 672000 (chalsted@comcast.net), Our records show that you recently received an email from goldenrulefan through the Ask Seller a Question or Contact eBay Member features. This email may be fraudulent and an attempt to do one of the following: - Obtain your eBay password - Gain access to your eBay account - Use your eBay account for fraudulent activity - Set up an outside-of-eBay transaction which may be fraudulent just got the following from ebay: this was after I'd contacted Seth Asher to enlighten him about the "prototype" Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 06:59:32 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: tomet9@sbcglobal.net, zubkoff@sbcglobal.net, Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:59:37 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY Re: '63 1500 In a message dated 4/4/2008 8:38:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tomet9@sbcglobal.net writes: However, the facts point to simply that the California DMV made a clerical mistake and switched a digit 7 for a digit 1 on the title. Errors are made. My SPL311 almost ended up as a SPL3ZZ. keith **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 07:03:03 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: sasher@olympiawest.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:03:15 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ebay question In a message dated 4/4/2008 8:49:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sasher@olympiawest.com writes: Can anyone tell me not just the rule of the group, but whether it generally annoys people, when users send a link to their auction site when they are selling their Fairlady Roadster? If it would generally be OK with everyone, I am auctioning my car on eBay, it's a really nice car and I would like to let the group know by sending the link. As far as I'm concerned, link away. Those of us who are concidered vendors are supposed to limit ourselves to one commercial post per month. As long as we don't get buried with them I don't see a problem. keith **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 07:56:22 2008 From: aiken1315@bellsouth.net To: Keith0alan@aol.com, tomet9@sbcglobal.net, zubkoff@sbcglobal.net, Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:56:46 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY Re: '63 1500 My title showed SRL311 from CA when I bought it. I convinced SC DMV to change it to SPL. David -------------- Original message from Keith0alan@aol.com: -------------- > In a message dated 4/4/2008 8:38:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > tomet9@sbcglobal.net writes: > > > However, the facts point to simply that the California DMV made a clerical > mistake and switched a digit 7 for a digit 1 on the title. > > > > Errors are made. My SPL311 almost ended up as a SPL3ZZ. > > keith > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aiken1315@bellsouth.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 14:05:02 2008 From: "jtorres67" To: Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:05:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] ATTENTION! ATTENTION! SOLVANG EMERGENCY!!! Dear Roadster People, Unfortunately my recent move has caused my Solvang Show Web Page to Crash. Sooooo.......If there is anyone out there, or you know anyone out there that needs registration information. I can e-mail them a PDF registration form. I would appreciate the help in spreading the word. I can be reached by cell phone at 559-707-0894 for more info at anytime. Thanks for the understanding!!! Jeff T. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 15:22:10 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: jtorres67@sbcglobal.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:16:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ATTENTION! ATTENTION! SOLVANG EMERGENCY!!! Jeff, Just keep this thread alive by either responding or repeating frequently so that the casual users will not miss it. Bump! Linda -----Original Message----- From: jtorres67 To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 1:05 pm Subject: [Roadsters] ATTENTION! ATTENTION! SOLVANG EMERGENCY!!! Dear Roadster People, Unfortunately my recent move has caused my Solvang Show Web Page to Crash. Sooooo.......If there is anyone out there, or you know anyone out there that needs registration information. I can e-mail them a PDF registration form. I would appreciate the help in spreading the word. I can be reached by cell phone at 559-707-0894 for more info at anytime. Thanks for the understanding!!! Jeff T. You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 17:05:08 2008 From: "dave" To: Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:05:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My opinion-> AUCTION ON EBAY Re: '63 So it would have then been a rare 350z prototype? ;) Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Keith0alan@aol.com [mailto:Keith0alan@aol.com] However, the facts point to simply that the California DMV made a clerical mistake and switched a digit 7 for a digit 1 on the title. Errors are made. My SPL311 almost ended up as a SPL3ZZ. keith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 17:06:38 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "chalsted" , "Patti Dwinell" Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 18:07:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller Sounds like a seller to stay away from. Too bad we can't warn prospective buyers who are not on the List. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "chalsted" To: "Patti Dwinell" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:49 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller > IDear 672000 (chalsted@comcast.net), > > Our records show that you recently received an email from goldenrulefan > through the Ask Seller a Question or Contact eBay Member features. This > email may be fraudulent and an attempt to do one of the following: > > - Obtain your eBay password > - Gain access to your eBay account > - Use your eBay account for fraudulent activity > - Set up an outside-of-eBay transaction which may be fraudulent > just got the following from ebay: > > > this was after I'd contacted Seth Asher to enlighten him about the > "prototype" > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 17:45:54 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:46:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller Ok, I've been reading all the replys and I feel I've "miss spoken" with my earlier opinion. He's not an idiot, he's an a--hole. Tim ---- Original Message ---- From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 9:10 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller Note: forwarded message attached. --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. X-Apparently-To: fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com via 206.190.37.65; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:04:04 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [68.168.78.199] Authentication-Results: mta264.mail.re4.yahoo.com from=ca.rr.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig) Received: from 68.168.78.199 (EHLO mta9.adelphia.net) (68.168.78.199) by mta264.mail.re4.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:04:02 -0700 Received: from owner4d7e0adce ([76.170.63.184]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20080405020446.XVGF25784.mta9.adelphia.net@owner4d7e0adce> for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:04:46 -0400 From: "Larry Braddock" To: "Patti Dwinell" References: <240515.77890.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:04:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Content-Length: 1367 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Same guy. Like I said earlier, its my f--up for selling it cheap. But calling it a "heirloom" on ebay, and a "family heirloom" on craigslist was sleazier than sleazy. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Patti Dwinell To: Larry Braddock Cc: All list Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: EBAY Auction (prototype) Seller Hey, Larry! Isn't this the same "Seth Asher" that bought your 63 for a song and resold it 2 weeks later (for a nice fat profit) as a family heirloom? If I recall, that whole mess caused a big stink all over this board! Patti ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 17:50:56 2008 From: PDFenter@aol.com To: Tminerpcav@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:51:20 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay So no update on his description, and another family heirlom... He is on the list and asked about posting the listing here. Should know better. wtf Phil **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 17:53:48 2008 From: PDFenter@aol.com To: Tminerpcav@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:54:15 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay Looks like the listing is gone. Not showing ended maybe revising. Phil **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 18:35:44 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: PDFenter@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:36:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay Oh well. Maybe if we all keep an eye out for this "very special" car guy and call him out every time he brings one our the Roadsters to market, he'll go find some other mark to discredit. We can only hope. Tim ---- Original Message ---- From: PDFenter@aol.com To: Tminerpcav@aol.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 4:51 pm Subject: Ebay So no update on his description, and another family heirlom... ? He is on the list and asked about posting the listing here. Should know better. ? wtf ? Phil Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 18:54:05 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: daveandlindab@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:54:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 146 Dave, This guy would never let this car go? for "cheap". I'm certain he's got a list of friendly bidders for his auctions. Tim ---- Original Message ---- From: dave To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 7:33 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 146 It's pretty simple, IMHO VIN number, obvious. Even if that was changed, I would make a 99% sure guess that dual master cylinders didn't exist in 1961, and nether did an aluminum head for these motors. so, either ignorance or intentional misstatements on the description. Buyer beware and if you don't do the research, deserve what you get. On a good note, I like the tan interior, and if it is as described, aside from the prototype fairytale, might be a great car for $3000.oo. I wouldn't buy it sight unseen, but a good look over would confirm condition. This whole prototype thing might backfire on him...If people think it's BS, less bidders, lower price, someone may get a deal. Have DMV correct the typo, all good. Dave Brisco ECR You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 18:55:07 2008 From: "Eric Gillis" To: Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 17:51:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ATTENTION! ATTENTION! SOLVANG EMERGENCY!!! I found my info on the 311s.org site, thanks for Steve A for uploading and hosting the info! http://www.311s.org/SolvangRegistration.pdf Hope this helps, I will get my reg in this weekend... but sadly no roadster this time. Eric G ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us@autox.team.net on behalf of jtorres67 Sent: Sat 4/5/2008 1:05 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] ATTENTION! ATTENTION! SOLVANG EMERGENCY!!! Dear Roadster People, Unfortunately my recent move has caused my Solvang Show Web Page to Crash. Sooooo.......If there is anyone out there, or you know anyone out there that needs registration information. I can e-mail them a PDF registration form. I would appreciate the help in spreading the word. I can be reached by cell phone at 559-707-0894 for more info at anytime. Thanks for the understanding!!! Jeff T. You are subscribed as egillis@ceres.k12.ca.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 21:38:28 2008 From: Ritchie Labate To: Datsun Roadster blog Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Compression test re: engine health Being a new Roadster owner ('68 2000), I'd like to assess the general health condition of the engine. I've rebuilt the distributor, replaced the plugs, coil (MSD), and wires (MSD). I checked the compression today and each cylinder registered 145 psi after 5 cranks. Is this acceptable? What would a leak-down test determine compared to todays test? How do I perform such a test? The car doesn't burn any oil but occasionally blows some smoke (running very rich, need to replace carbs). What is the tell-tale diagnostic that would reveal serious engine concerns/rebuild? Thanks!! Ritch ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 21:53:23 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , , Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 22:54:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay Tim, I'm with you. Let's discredit this guy, and run him off the list. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay > Oh well. > > Maybe if we all keep an eye out for this "very special" car guy and call > him out every time he brings one our the Roadsters to market, he'll go > find some other mark to discredit. We can only hope. > > Tim > > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: PDFenter@aol.com > To: Tminerpcav@aol.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 4:51 pm > Subject: Ebay > > > > So no update on his description, and another family heirlom... > > ? > > He is on the list and asked about posting the listing here. Should know > better. > > ? > > wtf > > ? > > Phil > > > > > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 22:01:57 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Ritchie Labate" , "Datsun Roadster blog" Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 23:02:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compression test re: engine health Ritch, Send the carbs to Z-Therapy. Worth every penny. Then assess whether you have other problems. 145 psi isn't great, but compression values depend so much on the gauge and other factors that I would hesitate to approve or condem any engine on the basis of compression readings alone. Did you have the clutch in and the accelerator pedal to the floor when you cranked the motor? Uniformity of readings is more important than most other parameters, especially when you say the car is not burning oil. Others on the list may have more expert opinions. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ritchie Labate" To: "Datsun Roadster blog" Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Compression test re: engine health > Being a new Roadster owner ('68 2000), I'd like to assess the general > health condition of the engine. I've rebuilt the distributor, replaced the > plugs, coil (MSD), and wires (MSD). I checked the compression today and > each cylinder registered 145 psi after 5 cranks. Is this acceptable? What > would a leak-down test determine compared to todays test? How do I perform > such a test? The car doesn't burn any oil but occasionally blows some > smoke (running very rich, need to replace carbs). What is the tell-tale > diagnostic that would reveal serious engine concerns/rebuild? > > Thanks!! > > Ritch > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 5 22:11:31 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 21:12:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Webshots Link Sorry everyone, was not awatre that the email I sent out would not work. Here is the link to view mt reupholstery work. Chris http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562823544zxAjoq?vhost=good-times -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 6 00:45:18 2008 From: alvin gogineni To: Gary and Cindy Ault , , Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 06:45:28 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay Holy E-thugs! Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: aultgc@att.net> To: PDFenter@aol.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; tminerpcav@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 22:54:08 -0500> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay> > Tim,> > I'm with you. Let's discredit this guy, and run him off the list.> > Gary> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:36 PM> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay> > > > Oh well.> >> > Maybe if we all keep an eye out for this "very special" car guy and call > > him out every time he brings one our the Roadsters to market, he'll go > > find some other mark to discredit. We can only hope.> >> > Tim> >> >> > ---- Original Message ----> > From: PDFenter@aol.com> > To: Tminerpcav@aol.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> > Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 4:51 pm> > Subject: Ebay> >> >> >> > So no update on his description, and another family heirlom...> >> > ?> >> > He is on the list and asked about posting the listing here. Should know > > better.> >> > ?> >> > wtf> >> > ?> >> > Phil> >> >> >> >> > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.> >> >> > ________________________________________________________________________> > Need a free e-mail account? 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See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653 A ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 6 09:55:49 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Ritchie Labate'" , "'Datsun Roadster blog'" Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:56:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compression test re: engine health Doesn't sound too bad, consistent compression is more important than the actual PSI. Get the carbs done, they probably have leaking throttle shafts and see how it is. Did you desmog the distributor with a 7.5 advance cam? Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Ritchie Labate [mailto:rlabate@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:39 PM To: Datsun Roadster blog Subject: [Roadsters] Compression test re: engine health Being a new Roadster owner ('68 2000), I'd like to assess the general health condition of the engine. I've rebuilt the distributor, replaced the plugs, coil (MSD), and wires (MSD). I checked the compression today and each cylinder registered 145 psi after 5 cranks. Is this acceptable? What would a leak-down test determine compared to todays test? How do I perform such a test? The car doesn't burn any oil but occasionally blows some smoke (running very rich, need to replace carbs). What is the tell-tale diagnostic that would reveal serious engine concerns/rebuild? Thanks!! Ritch ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 6 13:08:44 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: Chris & Christy Breyer Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Webshots Link WoW! Great job! They look great! Thank you for sharing this! Patti Chris & Christy Breyer wrote: Sorry everyone, was not awatre that the email I sent out would not work. Here is the link to view mt reupholstery work. Chris http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562823544zxAjoq?vhost=good-times -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 6 15:23:25 2008 From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:22:25 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] rebuilding fiberglass seat bottom Hey Roadsterites - I have a '64 Fairlady roadster I am starting to rebuild and the back of the fiberglass seat bottom has been broken off, so the seat sits in a major reclining mode. The entire top section of the bucket has broken off, but still have the piece that runs completely across the back. Wondering if it is better to restore the seat bucket or find another (any offers). It is the driver's side seat. Also, the seat rails are pretty groady, so I might be in the market for a couple pair. Ideas or offer's are greatly appreciated. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1968 SRL311-11977 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 6 21:34:43 2008 From: alp To: Datsun Roadster group Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 19:34:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compression test re: engine health much better to do a leak down test. with the leakdown you can assess where there is a problem much easier and how bad is it. If the intakes leak it will show by sounds in the intake track. If the exhaust valves leak look into the exhaust itself for leaking air sounds and you can check the rings by checking the dip stick tube for passing air. Then by the percentage of leaking air you can decide if it is the time to remidy the problem or not. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 6 22:12:25 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:12:42 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster ranch SU setup web site link Hello all, Worked on the SU setup web site some today. Miserable time but I really wanted to make some progress on it. It still isn't all I want to to be but it is getting there. _Setting up and adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on the Datsun Roadster_ (http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/su-setup/su-setup.html) It is also being mirrored on 311s.org in the wiki tech section. Steve has been a big help with this. I will continue to add to it as time goes by. keith "the slow carb guy" williams **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 6 22:20:48 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:21:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] test ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 7 00:04:36 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Garth Cuthbert" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:05:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 Distributor? I have a distributor which I took out of my 1600 years ago because I was told it was a 1500 dizzy and I would get better performance with a 1600 dizzy. It has a copper/brass?? plaque rivetted on it which says: Distributor D407-02 4040293 Hitachi Ltd. It is a little bit different than the 1600. Smaller cap, cast iron, flattened rod sticking out the front looks like it might be for some sort of adjustment. It seemed to work very well when it was on the car. Was rebuilt by Bob Sr. @ Toyo Motors in Richmond, BC. (mid/late '80s) I can send pictures tomorrow if anyone is interested. My question is: Is this of use to any of the 1500 owners? If not, Could the core be used for an EI dizzy? (Same bottom end??) Cheers Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 7 00:16:28 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" , Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:17:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chrome processing--was Bumper Thanks for all the responses regarding painting the inside of a rechromed bumper. Mine were painted silver when I got them from the chroming shop. Guess I'll just have to have them done again. POR 15 sounds like a good idea, But rustoleum may work just as well for a car that rarely gets wet..... Daryl Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "Daryl Smith" ; ; ; Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Chrome processing--was Bumper i always paint the inside with two coats of an appropriate colored rustoleum - seems to work fine. ---------------------------------------- > From: drlsmith@dccnet.com > To: Keith0alan@aol.com; tputland@charter.net; > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:20:35 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chrome processing--was Bumper > > I had my bumpers done about 12 years ago. I now have some rust starting to > form on the back side of the bumpers. > Do you coat the back side of the bumpers with POR 15 or similar when you > first get them back from the platers? > > Daryl > > > > tputland@charter.net writes: > > > >>From Keith: "Your parts will end up paper thin. " > > > > So..... > > > > I am a little unclear on this point. I under stand that the grinding > > will > > thin the metal. But doesn't the chroming process add (layers of metals) > > to the > > part, making it thicker (and heavier)? > > > > Is the thinning from grinding still an issue even with new metal being > > added? > > > > (read the last line on my signature if you are un clear as to my mental > > abilities!) ;-) > > > > Tim > > Belleville, WI. > > '70 SPL AND SRL > > Still clueless but always learning > > > > > > > > They are removing steel, a structural material, and adding copper, > > nickel > > and chrome, a cosmetic coating. The amount of steel removed to get to > > the > > bottom > > of the pits is a lot thicker than the amount of copper, nickel, and > > chrome > > you want to pay for. Good question though, in some applications, like > > hydraulic cylinder rods, they will build them up with chrome and grind > > them down to > > size. > > > > keith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 7 14:01:55 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:02:03 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster ranch SU setup web site link Complete or not, this is terrific and much appreciated, Keith. I'm curious.....is there anything special about tuning SU's on a roadster vs on an L-series engine? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Keith0alan@aol.com > Hello all, > > Worked on the SU setup web site some today. Miserable time but I really > wanted to make some progress on it. It still isn't all I want to to be but it > is getting there. > > > _Setting up and adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on the Datsun Roadster_ > (http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/su-setup/su-setup.html) > > It is also being mirrored on 311s.org in the wiki tech section. Steve has > been a big help with this. I will continue to add to it as time goes by. > > keith "the slow carb guy" williams > > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 7 14:27:28 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:27:51 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chrome processing--was Bumper Rarely gets wet? In B.C.? That's a short driving season. Pete "still dreaming of a daily driver" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Daryl Smith" > Thanks for all the responses regarding painting the inside of a rechromed > bumper. > Mine were painted silver when I got them from the chroming shop. Guess I'll > just have to have them done again. POR 15 sounds like a good idea, But > rustoleum may work just as well for a car that rarely gets wet..... > > Daryl Smith > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter harrison" > To: "Daryl Smith" ; ; > ; > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:24 AM > Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Chrome processing--was Bumper > > > > > i always paint the inside with two coats of an appropriate colored > rustoleum - seems to work fine. > ---------------------------------------- > > From: drlsmith@dccnet.com > > To: Keith0alan@aol.com; tputland@charter.net; > > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:20:35 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chrome processing--was Bumper > > > > I had my bumpers done about 12 years ago. I now have some rust starting to > > form on the back side of the bumpers. > > Do you coat the back side of the bumpers with POR 15 or similar when you > > first get them back from the platers? > > > > Daryl > > > > > > > tputland@charter.net writes: > > > > > >>From Keith: "Your parts will end up paper thin. " > > > > > > So..... > > > > > > I am a little unclear on this point. I under stand that the grinding > > > will > > > thin the metal. But doesn't the chroming process add (layers of metals) > > > to the > > > part, making it thicker (and heavier)? > > > > > > Is the thinning from grinding still an issue even with new metal being > > > added? > > > > > > (read the last line on my signature if you are un clear as to my mental > > > abilities!) ;-) > > > > > > Tim > > > Belleville, WI. > > > '70 SPL AND SRL > > > Still clueless but always learning > > > > > > > > > > > > They are removing steel, a structural material, and adding copper, > > > nickel > > > and chrome, a cosmetic coating. The amount of steel removed to get to > > > the > > > bottom > > > of the pits is a lot thicker than the amount of copper, nickel, and > > > chrome > > > you want to pay for. Good question though, in some applications, like > > > hydraulic cylinder rods, they will build them up with chrome and grind > > > them down to > > > size. > > > > > > keith > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 7 19:07:26 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Roadster List" Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:07:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Yesterdays Bar B-Q For all you that could not make the Bar B-Q we had yesterday and for those that did, we had a great time. We had close to 30 people come through at sometime during the day. Those that were not Roadster owners were Roadster lovers. Seven awesome cars came out and lined up on the curb making it a great time. Some owners we had known and some of you we just met and really enjoyed our time with you. There were so many people we are sorry if we did not get to visit each of as we would have liked to. We did try our best to make the rounds and make everyone feel welcomed. If we missed you were truly sorry, we hope you still had a good time. We are looking forward to seeing all of you again. Here is a link for the pictures I took at the Bar B-Q, if you took pictures if you can email them to me and I will post them in the same album. http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563019851ovcgIp?vhost=good-times See you In Solvang! Chris & Christy Breyer -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 7 22:42:30 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "corcoran" , "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 20:42:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1500 Distributor? Ok, By all the responses, I understand that the 1500 Dizzy itself really isn't worth much, but, caps are hard to find. The cap and rotor on this one hardly show any wear at all. Also near new points and condenser! (probably still set at correct gap/dwell too!) No shaft slop that I can tell. I didn't use it much before switching to the 1600 dizzy. But it isn't the prettiest dizzy I've seen. As many of you know I've gone to a crank fired ignition. The dizzy is useless to me. I put this out to the list to possibly help someone keep their 1500 going. I'm not in this for the money, But I'm not going to spend my time and money sending parts out for a mere "thankyou" anymore. Yes it has happened, recently. My fault for not ASKING to be reimbursed for the postage. Mark Dent was the first to respond with part of his message stating "I would not mind getting it as a spare, but if someone else needs it to keep one on the road, give them 1st shot." Which is of the same mindset I'm at, with this. Keep one on the road. So, If no one convinces me they NEED this dizzy (cap/rotor) to keep a car on the road, by rights it will go to the first responder (Mark), who also volunteered the info about the rarity of the cap. I like being educated about the parts I'm passing around. Sorry guys, no "boots" to go with it. Price to be determined.......... ;-) $1,000,000.00 !!!! Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Garth Cuthbert" ; "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 10:05 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 Distributor? >I have a distributor which I took out of my 1600 years ago because I was >told > it was a 1500 dizzy and I would get better performance with a 1600 dizzy. > > It has a copper/brass?? plaque rivetted on it which says: > Distributor > D407-02 > 4040293 > Hitachi Ltd. > > It is a little bit different than the 1600. Smaller cap, cast iron, > flattened > rod sticking out the front looks like it might be for some sort of > adjustment. > It seemed to work very well when it was on the car. Was rebuilt by Bob Sr. > @ > Toyo Motors in Richmond, BC. (mid/late '80s) > > I can send pictures tomorrow if anyone is interested. > > My question is: > Is this of use to any of the 1500 owners? > If not, Could the core be used for an EI dizzy? (Same bottom end??) > > Cheers > Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 00:31:07 2008 From: "Larry Braddock" To: Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:31:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 4-sale I'm selling my 69 2000. Thought I'd put it on the list to see if any members (or friends of) would be interested B4 I went to craigslist or ebay. Located in Hollywood CA area, runs great, int. soft top, very nice. Little rust in 2 spots in 1/4 panel. $5500. (PS theres a chance it was raced by Paul Newman. The # 's don't match, but if you cross your eyes, they almost look the same.) I'll leave that for you to research. Larry ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 11:02:28 2008 From: "Matt Jacquet" To: Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:06:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] just passing along the info Posted to the inactive BADROC site From: the522roland@yahoo.com Hi all The "remains" of a two into one project are available or will have to be junked. Low windshield car parts including: two fenders, hood, three doors (with glass, lifts), rolling chassis with limited body damage at rocker and little rust, cloth covered seats, '66 motor (3 main) was running when project started. Located in Vacaville. Save it from the junkyard. David Roland 650 604-4626 work 650 854-7574 home ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 12:50:59 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:52:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Email Outlook Express This is not as off topic as one would think. I use Outlook Express for the Datsun Roadster Mailing List and I keep the emails sorted into different folders. I just turned on my computer and it seems that my computer has randomly removed various emails with different ranges of dates. They are not in the delete basket though I did fine that the backup email folders were put in the delete basket on March 17th. Anyone familiar with such an occurence? Thanks! Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 13:00:55 2008 From: "Andy M." To: SlowBoy , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:01:17 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Email Outlook Express Outlook Express (OE) was designed with grandma and her getting occasional email in mind. I'd recommend upgrading to Outlook. Most of the time it will detect that you have been using OE and it will ask if you want to migrate to it. -----Original Message----- >From: SlowBoy >Sent: Apr 8, 2008 10:52 AM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] Email Outlook Express > >This is not as off topic as one would think. I use Outlook Express for the >Datsun Roadster Mailing List and I keep the emails sorted into different >folders. > >I just turned on my computer and it seems that my computer has randomly >removed various emails with different ranges of dates. > >They are not in the delete basket though I did fine that the backup email >folders were put in the delete basket on March 17th. > >Anyone familiar with such an occurence? > >Thanks! > >Jim >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as atmarosi@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 13:05:55 2008 From: "Mike H." To: "Matt Jacquet" , Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:09:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] just passing along the info Duh, sorry, I guess I need to get out more or at least further when I do get out. Where is Vacaville? Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jacquet" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] just passing along the info > Posted to the inactive BADROC site > > From: the522roland@yahoo.com > > Hi all > > The "remains" of a two into one project are available or will have to be > junked. Low windshield car parts including: > two fenders, hood, three doors (with glass, lifts), rolling chassis with > limited body damage at rocker and little rust, cloth covered seats, '66 > motor (3 main) was running when project started. Located in Vacaville. > > Save it from the junkyard. > > David Roland > 650 604-4626 work > 650 854-7574 home > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 13:07:26 2008 From: Tim To: SlowBoy , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, "Andy Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:07:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Email Outlook Express Ah yes....Microsoft and their corporate motto: PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE. And I agrees with Andy, switch of Outlook. It is easy to use and fairly stable--just make sure you have all the updates. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "Andy M." wrote: ============= Outlook Express (OE) was designed with grandma and her getting occasional email in mind. I'd recommend upgrading to Outlook. Most of the time it will detect that you have been using OE and it will ask if you want to migrate to it. -----Original Message----- >From: SlowBoy >Sent: Apr 8, 2008 10:52 AM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] Email Outlook Express > >This is not as off topic as one would think. I use Outlook Express for the >Datsun Roadster Mailing List and I keep the emails sorted into different >folders. > >I just turned on my computer and it seems that my computer has randomly >removed various emails with different ranges of dates. > >They are not in the delete basket though I did fine that the backup email >folders were put in the delete basket on March 17th. > >Anyone familiar with such an occurence? > >Thanks! > >Jim >________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 13:09:26 2008 From: Tim To: "Mike H." Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:09:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] just passing along the info On hwy 80 north east of the Bay Area about an hour or so. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "Mike H." wrote: ============= Duh, sorry, I guess I need to get out more or at least further when I do get out. Where is Vacaville? Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jacquet" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] just passing along the info > Posted to the inactive BADROC site > > From: the522roland@yahoo.com > > Hi all > > The "remains" of a two into one project are available or will have to be > junked. Low windshield car parts including: > two fenders, hood, three doors (with glass, lifts), rolling chassis with > limited body damage at rocker and little rust, cloth covered seats, '66 > motor (3 main) was running when project started. Located in Vacaville. > > Save it from the junkyard. > > David Roland > 650 604-4626 work > 650 854-7574 home > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 13:50:03 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:50:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Saturday Solvang Caravan Not sure who mentioned a Saturday caravan, but I'll be driving up Saturday morning, starting oh-dark-early in Orange County, aiming for breakfast in Solvang. Let me know if anyone wants to join in. Have to stop somewhere in the San Fernando Valley for gas anyway. Note: it seldom has been said "he came along, but fell back too far". My drivetrain has a happy harmonic place in the mid-70mph range, and yep, that often puts me on the rear bump stops on LA freeways, but that is what chinstraps on hats are for, right?. Fergus O 69 2000 HB, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 14:23:35 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:23:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Email Outlook Express As we say in the industry, "that's a feature, not a bug." Seriously, I've never heard of random email deletions. Group/folder deletions are 99.9-percent accidentally self-inflicted. You didn't get hit by the Postcard virus did ya? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "SlowBoy" > This is not as off topic as one would think. I use Outlook Express for the > Datsun Roadster Mailing List and I keep the emails sorted into different > folders. > > I just turned on my computer and it seems that my computer has randomly > removed various emails with different ranges of dates. > > They are not in the delete basket though I did fine that the backup email > folders were put in the delete basket on March 17th. > > Anyone familiar with such an occurence? > > Thanks! > > Jim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 14:26:45 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:27:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Email Outlook Express Oh, yeah. Ditto on moving to the full Outlook product. Pete "friends don't let friends use Outlook Express" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: ppeters914@comcast.net > As we say in the industry, "that's a feature, not a bug." > > Seriously, I've never heard of random email deletions. Group/folder deletions > are 99.9-percent accidentally self-inflicted. > > You didn't get hit by the Postcard virus did ya? > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "SlowBoy" > > This is not as off topic as one would think. I use Outlook Express for the > > Datsun Roadster Mailing List and I keep the emails sorted into different > > folders. > > > > I just turned on my computer and it seems that my computer has randomly > > removed various emails with different ranges of dates. > > > > They are not in the delete basket though I did fine that the backup email > > folders were put in the delete basket on March 17th. > > > > Anyone familiar with such an occurence? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jim > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 14:30:35 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:31:05 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] just passing along the info Tim, Mike's in Kansas and may not know what a bay is much less the Bay Area. Bay Area usually refers to the San Francisco Bay Area. Vacaville is about half-way between San Fran and Sacramento: Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Tim > On hwy 80 north east of the Bay Area about an hour or so. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- "Mike H." wrote: > > ============= > Duh, sorry, > I guess I need to get out more or at least further when I do get out. Where > is Vacaville? > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Jacquet" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:06 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] just passing along the info > > > > Posted to the inactive BADROC site > > > > From: the522roland@yahoo.com > > > > Hi all > > > > The "remains" of a two into one project are available or will have to be > > junked. Low windshield car parts including: > > two fenders, hood, three doors (with glass, lifts), rolling chassis with > > limited body damage at rocker and little rust, cloth covered seats, '66 > > motor (3 main) was running when project started. Located in Vacaville. > > > > Save it from the junkyard. > > > > David Roland > > 650 604-4626 work > > 650 854-7574 home > > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 14:49:49 2008 From: "Mike H." To: , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:53:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] just passing along the info Now wait just a minute! First of all, I'm in Missouri, although pretty much the same difference. Second, I DO know what a bay is, especially San Francisco, Oakland, Monterey, and Mission Bays. My favorite sailing vacation spots. Someday I'll try the Chesapeake. My narrow vision fantasy is to drive a roadster around Sausalito / Tiburon, but I would settle for some California canyon twists or PCH. Grins back at you, Pete! Mike Hudson ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] just passing along the info > Tim, > > Mike's in Kansas and may not know what a bay is much less the Bay Area. > > Bay Area usually refers to the San Francisco Bay Area. Vacaville is about half-way between San Fran and Sacramento: > > > > Pete > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Tim > > On hwy 80 north east of the Bay Area about an hour or so. > > > > > > Tim > > Belleville, WI. > > '70 SPL AND SRL > > Still clueless but always learning > > > > ---- "Mike H." wrote: > > > > ============= > > Duh, sorry, > > I guess I need to get out more or at least further when I do get out. Where > > is Vacaville? > > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matt Jacquet" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:06 AM > > Subject: [Roadsters] just passing along the info > > > > > > > Posted to the inactive BADROC site > > > > > > From: the522roland@yahoo.com > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > The "remains" of a two into one project are available or will have to be > > > junked. Low windshield car parts including: > > > two fenders, hood, three doors (with glass, lifts), rolling chassis with > > > limited body damage at rocker and little rust, cloth covered seats, '66 > > > motor (3 main) was running when project started. Located in Vacaville. > > > > > > Save it from the junkyard. > > > > > > David Roland > > > 650 604-4626 work > > > 650 854-7574 home ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 16:08:48 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:08:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] just passing along the info Hehehehehehehe....Kansas....Missouri (wasn't that a Steven King book?) .....anything between the Rockies and Blue Ridge is the same to me....... Pete "ducking the thrown objects by the Mid-West folks" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Mike H." > Now wait just a minute! > First of all, I'm in Missouri, although pretty much the same difference. > Second, I DO know what a bay is, especially San Francisco, Oakland, > Monterey, and Mission Bays. My favorite sailing vacation spots. Someday I'll > try the Chesapeake. My narrow vision fantasy is to drive a roadster around > Sausalito / Tiburon, but I would settle for some California canyon twists or > PCH. > > Grins back at you, Pete! > > Mike Hudson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] just passing along the info > > > > Tim, > > > > Mike's in Kansas and may not know what a bay is much less the Bay Area. > > > > > Bay Area usually refers to the San Francisco Bay Area. Vacaville is about > half-way between San Fran and Sacramento: > > > > > 8.35135,-121.993561&spn=0.784027,1.036835&z=10> > > > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: Tim > > > On hwy 80 north east of the Bay Area about an hour or so. > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > Belleville, WI. > > > '70 SPL AND SRL > > > Still clueless but always learning > > > > > > ---- "Mike H." wrote: > > > > > > ============= > > > Duh, sorry, > > > I guess I need to get out more or at least further when I do get out. > Where > > > is Vacaville? > > > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Matt Jacquet" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:06 AM > > > Subject: [Roadsters] just passing along the info > > > > > > > > > > Posted to the inactive BADROC site > > > > > > > > From: the522roland@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > The "remains" of a two into one project are available or will have to > be > > > > junked. Low windshield car parts including: > > > > two fenders, hood, three doors (with glass, lifts), rolling chassis > with > > > > limited body damage at rocker and little rust, cloth covered seats, > '66 > > > > motor (3 main) was running when project started. Located in Vacaville. > > > > > > > > Save it from the junkyard. > > > > > > > > David Roland > > > > 650 604-4626 work > > > > 650 854-7574 home ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 17:14:41 2008 From: Dan Zubkoff To: Matt Jacquet , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 15:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] BADROC website-> Re: just passing along the info The BADROC (Bay Area Datsun Roadster Owner's Club) website is in need of folks to help manage content and updates. The community has over 100 Bay Area Roadster Owners, and has the ability to email the BADROC alias for meets and events. http://badroc.org The site is very easy to update and you do not need to be highly technically proficient to help update the site. Anybody interested in helping to maintain the site? Also, many areas of the site are open to ALL BADROCer's to post to forums, classifieds and more. Thanks, Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX Matt Jacquet wrote: Posted to the inactive BADROC site From: the522roland@yahoo.com Hi all The "remains" of a two into one project are available or will have to be junked. Low windshield car parts including: two fenders, hood, three doors (with glass, lifts), rolling chassis with limited body damage at rocker and little rust, cloth covered seats, '66 motor (3 main) was running when project started. Located in Vacaville. Save it from the junkyard. David Roland 650 604-4626 work 650 854-7574 home You are subscribed as zubkoff@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 8 23:13:09 2008 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 04:11:43 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Outlook Express Backups (Semi-OT) It's not really off topic, if it saves anyone's Roadster email. I would be devastated. If you run a search on "*.dbx", you will find all your Outlook Express folders. For example, "Sent Items.dbx". Copy and save all your dbx files to a backup thumb drive or CD. That way, if the files get corrupted, you can re-load them and restore all your mail. Same goes for Outlook except, the file extension is "pst". If this is all Chinese, then contact me off list and I'll try to help. Dan McHatton '66 1600 _____________________________________________________________ Get a Sports Medicine Degree. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iiglW4ejbpEymmLmsSPFG4OmYDIO QzT6s1V8UGIfXtpE0bDcK/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 9 00:22:38 2008 From: Fred Katz To: Chris & Christy Breyer Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 22:22:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Webshots Link Fantastic job Chris! I'll use your techniques to rebuild the seats for my 1970 1600. I currently have cheap slip-on covers, with a cushion pillow under that because the seats are ripped and the seat foam is messed up. Timely post, as I was wondering how to get the job done. Fred Katz - So.SF, CA '70 1600 '66 2L On Apr 5, 2008, at 9:12 PM, Chris & Christy Breyer wrote: > Sorry everyone, was not awatre that the email I sent out would not > work. > > Here is the link to view mt reupholstery work. > > Chris > > > http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562823544zxAjoq?vhost=good-times > > > -- > '66 1600 > Riverside, CA > ------------------------------------------------------ > This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 9 08:20:52 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:21:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 seats, Barterdude I apologize for the bandwidth,... Gary, I tried to e-mail you to let you know I have a very decent set of 1500 seats available from a 28k original mile 1500 with terminal rust issues. was returned to me with mail delivery subsystem notation that you are not accepting mail from "this sender" for some reason. Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 9 12:37:51 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:38:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Removing Dash Hi List Removing dash to tidy up electrics/change speedo/install nwe glove box etc. Any tips/tricks and more importantly GOTCHAS!! I HAVE disconnected the battery. Eliza is back from rear-end mods and totally new paint. Hoping to get her running in time for Solvang. Unlikely to be complete, but that is what is so, Thanks Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 9 14:38:47 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:38:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Outlook Express Backups (Semi-OT) The one gotcha that'll cause "zero items found" is: - Default File View is "Do not show hidden files and folders" and "Hide extensions for known file types" - Even if the above is corrected, you must check the Search --> More Advanced Options --> Search hidden files and folders. Pete "I speak G(r)eek, too" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "hallosb@juno.com" > It's not really off topic, if it saves anyone's Roadster email. I would be > devastated. > If you run a search on "*.dbx", you will find all your Outlook Express > folders. For example, "Sent Items.dbx". Copy and save all your dbx files to a > backup thumb drive or CD. That way, if the files get corrupted, you can > re-load them and restore all your mail. > Same goes for Outlook except, the file extension is "pst". > If this is all Chinese, then contact me off list and I'll try to help. > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get a Sports Medicine Degree. Click Here. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iiglW4ejbpEymmLmsSPFG4OmYDIO > QzT6s1V8UGIfXtpE0bDcK/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 9 21:05:28 2008 From: "mica altman" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:05:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 69-70 passenger side (right) front fender im in desperate need of a right front fender. i would like to drive my roadster that i swaped a SR20 into this summer but it has a wrinkled front fender. and it is unworkable. dont ask how it happened, lets just say never drive with flip flops, lesson learned. PLEASE HELP... i have a 1600 block and tranny that are good some doors and various other bits, ive givin the rest of my parts to some guys in washinton which is where im located. i will pay for shipping PLEASE HELP MEEEEE my # is 253-973-3144 my name is mica altman. PLEASE SAVE MY SUMMER!!!!!! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 10 06:11:22 2008 From: Tim To: mica altman Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 7:11:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 69-70 passenger side (right) front fender What year is your car? I can help you (with a fender off of a high windshield car) if no one else can but I am sure you will get offers of help. If no one else closer does, then Craig Halstead in VA can help you and get you a year specific fender. PEACE :-) Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- mica altman wrote: ============= im in desperate need of a right front fender. i would like to drive my roadster that i swaped a SR20 into this summer but it has a wrinkled front fender. and it is unworkable. dont ask how it happened, lets just say never drive with flip flops, lesson learned. PLEASE HELP... i have a 1600 block and tranny that are good some doors and various other bits, ive givin the rest of my parts to some guys in washinton which is where im located. i will pay for shipping PLEASE HELP MEEEEE my # is 253-973-3144 my name is mica altman. PLEASE SAVE MY SUMMER!!!!!! ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 10 10:15:04 2008 From: Jeff Torres To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] SOlvamg SHow Website Info and Update Hello All, Well it appears I have managed to get the website up on the Internet. Unfortunately, I have not been able to update the registered participants or input any info, but be assured that I have been receiving registrations(THANKS!). Early registration ends tomorrow and If you have not registered, but plan on going to please drop me a line with your info. I'd appreciate it. Thanks to everyone for their understanding and support on this. I do believe though that the website is the way to go. I have had many, many requests for info/interest in our Solvang Show from people who knew about it, but never had any way to find out info other than word of mouth. I am certain this will be an avenue for growth and exposure for not only our show, but our Roadster lifestyle as well! I have been contacted by two sources that made their decision to cover our show this year, in part from the info on the website. The first is a Nissan Mag that has decided to cover our show for the first time and the second is a video production company that does projects for cable and satellite TV. Soooo...there ya' have it. Again thanks to all!!! See you in 16 days! Jeff T. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 10 19:06:28 2008 From: PDFenter@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:06:43 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] cam swap Question for everyone. My 68 2 liter is very stock but has B cam and solex's. My 67 2 liter has a A cam and z therapy su's. I want to put the 68 back to stock and put the solex carbs on the 67. The 67 has the A cam in it. My question is this. I have read that when putting a new cam in you want to replace the rocker arms. I am thinking about swapping cams between the 2 cars. If I did this I would keep each set of rockers with its respective cam, and specifically its cam lobe. Sounds like it would work to me but would I like another opinion. Is this practical? Or is it a dumb idea? There is the question all replies welcome and appreciated. Thanks Phil **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 10 19:11:14 2008 From: RWM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:11:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cam swap Why not just swap the heads with their respective cams/rockers/carbs? PDFenter@aol.com wrote: >Question for everyone. >My 68 2 liter is very stock but has B cam and solex's. My 67 2 liter has a A >cam and z therapy su's. I want to put the 68 back to stock and put the solex >carbs on the 67. > >The 67 has the A cam in it. My question is this. I have read that when >putting a new cam in you want to replace the rocker arms. I am thinking about >swapping cams between the 2 cars. If I did this I would keep each set of rockers >with its respective cam, and specifically its cam lobe. Sounds like it would >work to me but would I like another opinion. > >Is this practical? Or is it a dumb idea? > >There is the question all replies welcome and appreciated. > >Thanks > >Phil ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 10 19:45:41 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: PDFenter@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:45:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cam swap > I have read that when putting a new cam in you want to replace the > rocker arms. True. But what's really being said is "don't mix cam lobes and rockers". That is, always keep the same rocker with the specific lobe. If you swap cams, take the rockers with it. You shouldn't drop a cam - new or used - onto used rockers, unless you have the used rockers reconditioned first). So as long as you swap the rockers with the cam - and don't mix them up - you should be OK. Any real mechanics care to chime in? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA "out back under my shade tree" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 10 20:45:06 2008 From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: PDFenter@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:45:27 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cam swap You could swap engines unless matching numbers is of concern. If so, swap the heads. Getting the intake/exhaust manifold off with a stock exhaust header in place, with the engine in the car can be a real challenge. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: PDFenter@aol.com >Sent: Apr 10, 2008 6:06 PM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] cam swap > >Question for everyone. >My 68 2 liter is very stock but has B cam and solex's. My 67 2 liter has a A >cam and z therapy su's. I want to put the 68 back to stock and put the solex >carbs on the 67. > >The 67 has the A cam in it. My question is this. I have read that when >putting a new cam in you want to replace the rocker arms. I am thinking about >swapping cams between the 2 cars. If I did this I would keep each set of rockers >with its respective cam, and specifically its cam lobe. Sounds like it would >work to me but would I like another opinion. > >Is this practical? Or is it a dumb idea? > >There is the question all replies welcome and appreciated. > >Thanks > >Phil > > > >**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 10 21:25:55 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "John F Sandhoff" , Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:26:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cam swap Phil, et. al., My understanding is consistent with John's: Keep the rockers withthe cam, lobe for lobe, and you'll be OK. I certainly hope so, because I put a used "B" cam into my car with the same rockers it was run with. Haven't fired it up yet, but .... I also kept the original "A" cam with it's rockers marked to match just in case things don't work out with the "B". Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cam swap >> I have read that when putting a new cam in you want to replace the >> rocker arms. > > True. But what's really being said is "don't mix cam lobes and rockers". > That is, always keep the same rocker with the specific lobe. If you > swap cams, take the rockers with it. You shouldn't drop a cam - new > or used - onto used rockers, unless you have the used rockers > reconditioned first). > > So as long as you swap the rockers with the cam - and don't mix them > up - you should be OK. > > Any real mechanics care to chime in? > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > "out back under my shade tree" > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 10 22:30:46 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: PDFenter@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:29:48 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cam swap As has been said, the rockers should go with the cam on the same lobes as they have worn together. Before you put the rockers in make sure the cam(s) spins freely when you tighten the cap nuts just in case there is any variation in how they worn in as well. Carefully mark the sprocket to the chain (I use a sharpie) so things go back together right... one tooth off and you bend valves. You will likely have to rebalance the carbs or at least check them as there may be variations from engine to engine in how each cylinder draws air. Use new manifold gaskets. Put a rag down the front of the head where the timing chain is while doing stuff just to make sure nothing drops down the front... you never know when a lash pad will come flying off! Then don't forget to take it out! Have fun! Greg Burrows 67 2000 -- PDFenter@aol.com wrote: Question for everyone. My 68 2 liter is very stock but has B cam and solex's. My 67 2 liter has a A cam and z therapy su's. I want to put the 68 back to stock and put the solex carbs on the 67. The 67 has the A cam in it. My question is this. I have read that when putting a new cam in you want to replace the rocker arms. I am thinking about swapping cams between the 2 cars. If I did this I would keep each set of rockers with its respective cam, and specifically its cam lobe. Sounds like it would work to me but would I like another opinion. Is this practical? Or is it a dumb idea? There is the question all replies welcome and appreciated. Thanks Phil _____________________________________________________________ Click for your daily horoscope, learn about money, love & family. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4suW5DN1yAe5VdX4lrozLNTZ 1WAgJ1JzIsnhOW0T4dMxpGjO/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 11 12:04:30 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Roadster List" Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:02:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravan It is my understanding that there is a caravan heading to Solvang and will be meeting in Woodland Hills. I have a few questions so that I can catch the caravan and head up there with others. Is there anything organized yet? I am leaving Friday Morning; Where does the caravan start, where does it stop to pick others up and the times. I think Woodland Hills is where I might meet up. From Riverside taking inland frwys to the 210 to the 134 to the 101. What time does the group meet there? Chris -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 12 09:37:25 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:37:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Penny Postcards - This is Cool I know this has nothing to do with Roadsters but I thought it was really cool and wanted to pass it on. *What did your town look like according to Penny Postcards?* *Check out your old stomping grounds during the times of the penny postcard. * *Click on the state and then on the county to see old penny postcards from that area...Click post card to enlarge it somewhat...Pretty cool.* Click here: Penny Postcards -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 12 21:10:48 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:11:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Starter solenoid question My starter solenoid appears to have gone bad. According the PMWiki Tech Section on the 311s.org site it says "Replacing the solenoid with a Nissan unit and your problem should be solved". Which Nissan unit should I get, or do they only make one and can I get it a the local auto parts store? I have a 1966 1600 with an H20 in it. ~Chris -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 12 23:05:31 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:05:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question Hi List Got the dash off - thanks Teddy (pittsburgh) for your article - made life much easier - of course I have to handle the 'reverse' Removed and disassembled the speedo - discovered the 'glass' was plastic/perspex ish. I was expecting glass. Was the PO gypped or are all the instruments on the 1970 roadster plastic/perspex ?? Peter 1970 SPL Toad San ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 12 23:12:06 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:12:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Dash off - Local Los Angeles Owners Got the dash off - will be that way for a few days - thought it would be an opportunity for local roadster people to 'pop' over to see what is under there. Like - now I know why my center console 'vent' controls don't work etc, and just how things are tied together. Give me a shout at 818 448 3181 Solvang is unfortunately looking more iffy for Elisa. Peter - Van Nuys SPL311 1970 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 12 23:28:31 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:28:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] NFIMBT (Los Angles'ish) Quick Recap Contrary to popular opinion :), I forsook the Zanax and Valium and just went for a ride with Mr V. Laury, and I enjoyed it immensly. Sticky tires and a 2.2 motor with vigorous application of steering and disk brakes made life less challenging. We had a blast, the weather was great, the roads (as usual) were fantastic and mostly traffic free and except for a worrying moment with an incoming sheriff (which would have netted us, a vigorously driven bug, an equally voracious 911,3 for the price of one stop ) we were unencumbered with local officialdom. Over 125 cars - 150+ people - 1000 miles in beautiful blossoming countryside - 3 days from heaven. Eric/Fergus/Les C. were the roadsters (we were in Victor's 510) - but there was so much more - a dune buggy driven by kilt-clad occupants, a 300SL, 3 Citroen DS - more Porsches than you could count - if you even cared to - some cool alfas, - Jag C-type, Maserati, Volvo Amazon, and P1800's, just a hoot. Remember 2009 - 2nd Thursday in April - just turn up and be prepared to rock and roll. Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 08:40:21 2008 From: "steb" To: Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:41:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) I disassembled both doors and removed the crappy and ineffective undercoating from the interior areas. I noticed that there is a rubber piece attached to a riser at the bottom of the door. Does anyone know its function? Both of these pieces are cracked and very brittle and I am wondering if I need to replace them. Thanks Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 09:21:22 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:18:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) Steve I believe that they are lower stops for the window - that is the only sense I can make out of them. Peter ---------------------------------------- > From: stebharvey@ameritech.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:41:08 -0500 > Subject: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) > > I disassembled both doors and removed the crappy and ineffective > undercoating from the interior areas. I noticed that there is a rubber > piece attached to a riser at the bottom of the door. Does anyone know > its function? Both of these pieces are cracked and very brittle and I am > wondering if I need to replace them. > > Thanks > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 09:53:03 2008 From: JRDMF@aol.com To: granvillecomputing@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:53:20 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question Sorry to report that plastic or "plexi" is the norm for the gauges on the later cars. We have had mixed success when it comes to polishing the old lens so we have started replacing them with glass. Much more durable and give the gauges a cleaner look. Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 10:03:30 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:04:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Lighting Upgrade Hi There was a thread about installing LEDS as lighting replacements for the standard dash lighting - i thought i had saved it, but clearly I didn't - or at least i can't find it. could someone please give me some ideas thx peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 11:43:24 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: JRDMF@aol.com, granvillecomputing@hotmail.com, Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:43:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question Oh, here's this guy professing to be a "GUAGE EXPERT" agian.? When is this guy going to get a life? Tim ---- Original Message ---- From: JRDMF@aol.com To: granvillecomputing@hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 7:53 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question Sorry to report that plastic or "plexi" is the norm for the gauges on the later cars. We have had mixed success when it comes to polishing the old lens so we have started replacing them with glass. Much more durable and give the gauges a cleaner look. Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 12:15:55 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: steb Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) Steve, Could you have found the window stop? Is it just a little "L" shaped piece of metal with rubber covering the inside. I glued gasket cork on mine to replace the rubber. Works fine. Patti steb wrote: I disassembled both doors and removed the crappy and ineffective undercoating from the interior areas. I noticed that there is a rubber piece attached to a riser at the bottom of the door. Does anyone know its function? Both of these pieces are cracked and very brittle and I am wondering if I need to replace them. Thanks Steve You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 13:29:34 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Chris & Christy Breyer'" Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:26:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter solenoid question Rock Auto lists an AIRTEX Part # 1M1504, but it's $51.00 Were I you, I'd just get a gear reduction forklift unit or a standard H20 unit. Numbers are in an article I posted on 311 WIKI http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.ForkliftStarter Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Christy Breyer [mailto:fairlady66@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:11 PM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Starter solenoid question My starter solenoid appears to have gone bad. According the PMWiki Tech Section on the 311s.org site it says "Replacing the solenoid with a Nissan unit and your problem should be solved". Which Nissan unit should I get, or do they only make one and can I get it a the local auto parts store? I have a 1966 1600 with an H20 in it. ~Chris -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 16:26:10 2008 From: JRDMF@aol.com To: Tminerpcav@aol.com, granvillecomputing@hotmail.com, Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:26:12 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question Door number 1 has the Roadster, the wife and the kids.... Door number 2 had a life. Any questions? :-) Jon **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 17:13:24 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:13:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper mounting question I notice that there are OVAL rubber mounting grommets and oval aluminium inserts. Is this JUST for positioning or is the motor supposed to be sliding within? And, if for positioning, what is an appropriate position? Thx Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 17:16:50 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'steb'" , Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:17:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) On mine (67.5) there is a piece on a riser that looks something like this when viewed from the end: |\___/| |_____| Yes, it is the lower stop for the window assembly. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steb Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:41 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) I disassembled both doors and removed the crappy and ineffective undercoating from the interior areas. I noticed that there is a rubber piece attached to a riser at the bottom of the door. Does anyone know its function? Both of these pieces are cracked and very brittle and I am wondering if I need to replace them. Thanks Steve Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 17:30:21 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:30:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Anal Roadster Clock Question Ah, the fun when the dash is removed. Discovered that there is a small plastic dial that actually regulates the clock. Any one know what the relationship is for arc degree of movement of said dial and advance/retard in seconds/minutes. Might save me hours of reclibration. Thx Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 17:37:43 2008 From: "Brian Hollands" To: "'peter harrison'" Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:38:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (didn't know I was) Anal - Roadster Clock Question --===============1426262280== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I asked the same thing several years ago. This is the response I got - for a high windshield car by the way... THERE IS A SMALL HOLE ON THE BACK OF THE CLOCK, BEHIND APPROX. THE 8 O'CLOCK POSITION, MADE TO ACCEPT A MEDIUM-SIZED JEWELER'S SCREWDRIVER (= 3 1/2" LONG, 1/8" WIDE BLADE, AT MOST). THE HOLE MAY BE FILLED WITH A WHITE, PLASTIC PLUG THAT YOU HAVE TO REMOVE WITH YOUR FINGERNAILS FIRST WHILE WORKING BEHIND THE DASH, WITHOUT BENEFIT OF SIGHT. ONCE THE HOLE IS EXPOSED, YOU (BLINDLY) INSERT THE JEWELER'S SCREWDRIVER. NON-OBVIOUS HINT: IT MAY HELP TO MOVE THE TEMP. LEVER TO 'HOT' TO GIVE YOU MORE ROOM TO WORK BEHIND THE CLOCK! TO SPEED UP THE CLOCK, TURN THE SCREWDRIVER CLOCKWISE USING THE BACK OF THE CLOCK AS THE FRAME OF REFERENCE. (THAT IS, YOU TURN THE SCREW COUNTER-CLOCKWISE RELATIVE TO THE FRONT FACE OF THE CLOCK TO SPEED IT UP.) THAT IS TURN THE SCREWDRIVER TOWARDS THE 'F' (FOR 'FASTER'). DO THE OPPOSITE, i.e., TURN THE SCREWDRIVER TOWARDS 'S' TO SLOW DOWN THE CLOCK. I'D SAY THAT ABOUT 1/8 TURN WILL ADJUST THE CLOCK BY ABOUT 5 MINUTES/DAY. I HOPE THAT THIS HELPS. GOOD LUCK! TEDDY 69 2000 PITTSBURGH, PA Hope that Helps, Brian 69 2000 Tampa ________________________________ Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 4/13/2008 1:45 PM --===============1426262280== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --===============1426262280==-- From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 17:56:08 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:42:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question i'd pick door number 1 every time. my son is leaving for college (1000 miles away) in a couple of months and its gonna kill me!!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question > Door number 1 has the Roadster, the wife and the kids.... Door number 2 > had > a life. Any questions? :-) > > Jon ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 18:26:25 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "peter harrison" , "datsun" Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:27:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wiper mounting question Peter, >From my experience with low-windshield cars, it's just for positioning. What's appropriate? I think that when you try to line everything up with the wiper linkage, you'll figure it out. There wil be just one position which makes sense. (That's what I remember, but I'm old.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Wiper mounting question >I notice that there are OVAL rubber mounting grommets and oval aluminium > inserts. Is this JUST for positioning or is the motor supposed to be > sliding > within? And, if for positioning, what is an appropriate position? > > Thx > > Peter > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 19:57:01 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:57:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wiper mounting question Peter, If the rubber mounts/oval inserts on your wiper motor bracket are undisturbed, there should be impressions on the bolt-head side where flat washers were located. If undisturbed, just put it back together so the flat washers are in the same positions as they were before you took everything apart. If not, then you will need to play around a bit. Even if you took things apart, you should be able to tell which direction each rubber grommet was installed, because they will have taken a "set" over time. I have two spare low-windshield wiper motors. (Don't ask me how that happened.) On both, the ovals on the portion of the motor bracket closest to the motor are transverse to the slots; on the "L"-shaped portion of the motor bracket, they are parallel. What I remember is, on an early car, both pieces of the wiper linkage attaches to the eccentric arm on the motor. I think on the later cars, the shorter arm attaches to the long arm, but I am not sure. In any event, you're trying to align three points in space: The shaft on the eccentric arm, the left wiper pivot and the right wiper pivot. I think that, if you try to assemble it all, there is only one position where the eccentric arm and both pivot arms align. Try putting it together before you put everything else in. if you can. At any rate, when you assemble it all, hook it up and put power to it with the bolts just hand-tight, so they can move a bit if they need to. Then the assembly should align itself without damaging anything. Call if you want. Anyone else on the List got a better idea? Gary (219) 322-1923 -- Central Time ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Wiper mounting question Gary but how does one figure what makes 'sense' ?? :) Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 20:22:36 2008 From: "Mike Faggart" To: "Oliver" , Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:23:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question Door number 1 for me also, my son graduates from college in 4 weeks, then is moving to Chicago the next week to attend law school. From now on, will only get to see him a couple of times a year instead of one of us driving 90 miles. North Carolina to Chicago appx. 800 miles, too long for a day trip even in a roadster. Mike Faggart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver" To: Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question > i'd pick door number 1 every time. my son is leaving for college (1000 > miles away) in a couple of months and its gonna kill me!!!!!!!!!!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo/Tach Question > > >> Door number 1 has the Roadster, the wife and the kids.... Door number 2 >> had >> a life. Any questions? :-) >> >> Jon > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikef@carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 20:43:29 2008 From: JRDMF@aol.com To: granvillecomputing@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:43:52 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anal Roadster Clock Question At the risk of waking up Tim Miner again, I believe I can help you with this one too. Adjusting a clock using the "tweak and wait" method can work but is tedious at best. We use an electronic counter / calibrator that can virtually cut the error of most clocks down to about 10 seconds a week. It uses an earphone that counts the pulses from the escape wheel so you can actually see the changes you are making while adjusting the hairspring. This cuts the calibration time down to minutes and also lets you know right a way if there are other problems that may be causing an intermittent swing. (And for those who are interested in way too much information... Roadster escape wheels run at 18000 pulses an hour.) Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 13 22:41:32 2008 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine i know. every shop used to have one, now no one does. we are looking for a machine to test/calibrate dizzy's. been looking around with no success. any leads/suggestions? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 05:59:59 2008 From: "steb" To: "'Patti Dwinell'" Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:00:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) List, Thanks to all for the rubber stop information. I'll replace the pieces with new rubber. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Patti Dwinell [mailto:fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:16 PM To: steb Cc: All list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) Steve, Could you have found the window stop? Is it just a little "L" shaped piece of metal with rubber covering the inside. I glued gasket cork on mine to replace the rubber. Works fine. Patti steb wrote: I disassembled both doors and removed the crappy and ineffective undercoating from the interior areas. I noticed that there is a rubber piece attached to a riser at the bottom of the door. Does anyone know its function? Both of these pieces are cracked and very brittle and I am wondering if I need to replace them. Thanks Steve You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 07:02:44 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: sumton@sbcglobal.net Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:02:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine Wasn't that done with an osciliscope? -----Original Message----- From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:41 pm Subject: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine i know. every shop used to have one, now no one does. we are looking for a machine to test/calibrate dizzy's. been looking around with no success. any leads/suggestions? You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 09:45:16 2008 From: "Bubba" To: , Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:45:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine The old engine analyzers did use oscilloscope, but there were actual machines to test distributors. Years ago I actually had one until it died, and I couldn't beg, borrow, steal, make or customize any of the parts needed. I kept it for several years until I needed the bench space. Distributor testers were a form of machine that you clamped the distributor in and you could spin the distributor shaft, and adjust the speed from an idle speed to several thousand RPM. There were meters mounted on it that read the RPM and dwell angle (the # of degrees of rotation that the points were closed). It also had a vacuum pump to connect to the vacuum advance, and a strobe light which showed where in the rotation the points opened (distributor timing). You could actually set the points while it turned, as you ran it without cap or rotor by observing the dwell reading. Dwell reading is more accurate than point gap. By running the distributor on the machine you could measure the amount of vacuum advance, mechanical advance (centrifugal), or total advance (vacuum and mechanical). If you were testing different counter-weights and springs on a mechanical advance, you could do so quickly, easily, and without bending over a fender and trying to read your timing marks. On vehicles with adjustable vacuum advance, adjustments were quick as well. You could set up a basic distributor in minutes. Sometimes you could use a strobe light, and even watch for movement in the distributor shaft through various RPM ranges, which was great to diagnose worn bushings. AAAAHHHHHH the good old days, when cars were cars, men for men, and onboard computers were science fiction. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine > Wasn't that done with an osciliscope? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: oliver > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:41 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine > > > > i know. every shop used to have one, now no one does. > > we are looking for a machine to test/calibrate dizzy's. > > been looking around with no success. any leads/suggestions? > You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 10:21:12 2008 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 14 inch wheels Hi, Saw these posted on craigslist today, thought someone was looking for these not too long ago. In SoCal. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/pts/641170416.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 11:03:11 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "peter harrison" , Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:11:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) Rich in Salem, Oregon may make window travel stops on the laser cutting tool he uses in his woodworking business. I remember he offered them to the list for a very nominal cost a while back. I have not heard from him in a while, but here is his e-mail address: SPYDER62@aol. com Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:19 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) Steve I believe that they are lower stops for the window - that is the only sense I can make out of them. Peter ---------------------------------------- > From: stebharvey@ameritech.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:41:08 -0500 > Subject: [Roadsters] Internal door parts question (1970) > > I disassembled both doors and removed the crappy and ineffective > undercoating from the interior areas. I noticed that there is a rubber > piece attached to a riser at the bottom of the door. Does anyone know > its function? Both of these pieces are cracked and very brittle and I am > wondering if I need to replace them. > > Thanks > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 13:59:42 2008 From: philip erickson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine I had one in the good old days. You can make your own if you are handy. Besides the tact and dwell which you will need to buy, all they were was a variable speed motor to drive the distributer, clear Plexiglas plate with the degrees marked on it that is fixed and an opaque plate with a slot that lined up with the distributer shaft (rotor) to block the light that rotates. There was a 12 volt light inside the box that was activated by the points and as you turned the distributer the light would flash. You can see the slot through the clear Plexiglas and tell when the points are opening. If you wish to check a vacuum advance add a vacuum meter and siphon pump. Phil ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 14:33:13 2008 From: Adam Hanson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] looking for manifold I'm looking for a manifold for my 1965 Datsun 1500. From what I've heard, they are the same as the early 1600;s. Mine is the sheetmetal type and I'd like to find a cast one. I'm also looking for the passengers side aluminum trim piece and a tonneau cover. Let me know what you have. Thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 14:45:17 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:45:33 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine My brother-in-law in San Jose grabbed one years ago when the local tech college was dumping 'em. Don't know what he would charge to test/repair/reindex/etc. If you want me to ask, email me off-list with the details. Thanks. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: oliver > i know. every shop used to have one, now no one does. > > we are looking for a machine to test/calibrate dizzy's. > > been looking around with no success. any leads/suggestions? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 16:53:53 2008 From: "dave" To: "'oliver'" , Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:54:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine It took me about 6 months of constant searching; most were selling for $500.00 to $750.00, and shipping can be alot. I finally got lucky, pick it up this Friday. If you are only doing the occasional distributor, I'd be glad to set them up for you. It's bound to be less expensive than a machine. If you keep looking, you may get lucky. Dave Brisco EastCoastRoadster@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: oliver [mailto:sumton@sbcglobal.net] i know. every shop used to have one, now no one does. we are looking for a machine to test/calibrate dizzy's. been looking around with no success. any leads/suggestions? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 16:59:48 2008 From: "dave" To: , Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:00:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine You can, but the distributor machine is easier and more direct. A scope tells you the electrical condition of the system, but will show advance etc. but needs the engine running. Both combined is a great tool. If you know how to read it, you can find lean or rich cylinders, vacuum leaks, Jimmy Hoffa..... Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: davesmbox@aol.com [mailto:davesmbox@aol.com] Wasn't that done with an osciliscope? -----Original Message----- From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:41 pm Subject: [Roadsters] looking for a distributor testing machine i know. every shop used to have one, now no one does. we are looking for a machine to test/calibrate dizzy's. been looking around with no success. any leads/suggestions? You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 20:52:39 2008 From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: Datsun List Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:52:39 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 driveshaft needed I am looking for a 1600 driveshaft to go along with the 4 speed I am putting in my roadster. If anyone has one available, I will pay shipping and a reasonable price for the driveshaft. If you have one available, please contact me. Thanks, Dewey Hahlbohm; Helena, MT ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 21:07:42 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:07:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Lighting Hi Thought I had sent this yesterday - but cannot find a record of it. I am looking for the thread about installingt LED's in the dash. Does anyone have that thread or the results. Thx Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 14 22:39:53 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: Adam Hanson Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] looking for manifold Hi, Adam! I just saw this on Ebay. Check it out.....I think it will fit. Item number: 160228316637 Patti Adam Hanson wrote: I'm looking for a manifold for my 1965 Datsun 1500. From what I've heard, they are the same as the early 1600;s. Mine is the sheetmetal type and I'd like to find a cast one. I'm also looking for the passengers side aluminum trim piece and a tonneau cover. Let me know what you have. Thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters between 0000-00-00 and 9999-99-99 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 07:48:31 2008 From: d-solomon@comcast.net To: Dewey Hahlbohm , Datsun List Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:48:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 driveshaft needed i should have the one you need. what's the going rate for something like this? -------------- Original message -------------- From: Dewey Hahlbohm > I am looking for a 1600 driveshaft to go along with the 4 speed I am putting in > my roadster. If anyone has one available, I will pay shipping and a reasonable > price for the driveshaft. > > If you have one available, please contact me. Thanks, Dewey Hahlbohm; Helena, MT > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 09:54:30 2008 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Nardi Steering wheel? Hello, Saw this posted on Craigslist today in SoCal. With the right hub, they would look nice in the roadster. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/pts/642897729.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 09:57:13 2008 From: "Eric Gillis" To: "Tom PRATHER" , Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:56:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Nardi Steering wheel? Yes they do, and finding the right hub is the trick, I think that one of the vendors makes an adapter. They look and feel fantastic! Eric G ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us@autox.team.net on behalf of Tom PRATHER Sent: Tue 4/15/2008 7:54 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Nardi Steering wheel? Hello, Saw this posted on Craigslist today in SoCal. With the right hub, they would look nice in the roadster. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/pts/642897729.html You are subscribed as egillis@ceres.k12.ca.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 10:14:51 2008 From: datsundoc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:15:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Nardi Steering wheel? I have an old Nardi wheel on our 67.5.?I really?like it. I?altered a Momo Datsun hub to fit it?at the height I wanted. I also made an adapter to use the original 67.5 horn button on it so it looks original if you didn't know better. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:54 am Subject: [Roadsters] Nardi Steering wheel? Hello, Saw this posted on Craigslist today in SoCal. With the right hub, they would look nice in the roadster. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/pts/642897729.html You are subscribed as datsundoc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 13:34:36 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:35:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Iron Bottom update A short note on going on my first No Frills Iron Bottom Motoring Tour (NFIBMT). 1200 miles in 3 days. Spectacular scenery, un-paralleled, some of the most gorgeous backroads and scenic settings. Drives in the roadster (top off door-to-door) ranging from chilly mornings, some mildly warm afternoons, and great evenings spent 'bench-racing' with some very relaxed and unpretentious folks. Sure, the Porsche crowd tend to show no interest in anything non-German, but the rest were great folk just glad to see more unique vehicles on the road. At the worst the roads were just dusty with some thrown pebbles from the shoulders. The last day along the Cambria/Big Sur area had some looping treks that ended up on gravel roads, but that was by far the exception and if one had stayed on HiWay 1 towards home, no bad road surfaces encountered. Cars: what a variety, from a Alfa Romeo Z, two burly guys in a dune buggy and kilts!, a Caddy ElDorado, some beautiful Mercedes (including a Gullwing 300SL that really had some get-up), a gaggle of Porsches-from rally trimmed 914's to some very zippy sleeper early 911's to some whale tale brutes, three Citroen DS-21's, a 61k orig mile Jag XKE coupe, several Z cars, Fiats ranging from pristine 2000's to a survivor 124 wagon, quite the range. 100+ cars in all, ~150 people. Les in a beautiful just finished Red 2000, with a killer stereo and a BIG set of solexes. I followed the 302-roadster of Eric's for all of the trip, and had got used to the trombone-section exhaust note from his car, and was surprised to hear the glorious sucking sound of them big Solex's, over the trombones, come up behind me on the last day. When I lost Eric due to his better driving skills, I tagged along with a 79 Midget, but even found when the switchbacks got tight that his lower weight and better (though smaller) rubber left me behind as well. I have lots to learn, and a 2nd gear syncro to baby along until my budget permits. The drives were great, although I wouldn't do it alone (without a co-driver) for the first time, unless you just plan to follow other folks (who may be doing it for their first time), or really know how to use a GPS well. (I had none). That being said, even if you did the whole trip at a snails pace following someone, it was enjoyable down to the every minute. One has to remember that you are in the company of some primo equipment and drivers, and need to remember not to overdrive the equipment you have brought along. I have a couple more exciting stories than I intended to come home with, and let's just say I have come home with a list of projects as well as an urgent need to incorporate more moderation in my driving approach. Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 16:12:20 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:12:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Friday Solvang Caravans Hello All, I hope everyone is getting into the spirit and getting their cars ready for Solvang! Shari and I are putting some final touches on the car and are way excited to head to the beautiful California Central Coast to see some of the finest Datsun Roadsters on the planet. We are both looking forward to seeing new cars and old friends. A good time to be had by all. I wanted to propose some final meeting times and places as it seems like we are going to have quite a few cars in the caravan this year. I know that the San Diego area crowd are planning to meet down there and then perhaps two stops in the LA area - one in Irvine and the other in Woodland Hills. I propose the stop in Irvine to be at the Spectrum (shopping center) at 11:00 AM and then the bowling alley parking lot in Woodland Hills at around 1PM. I am not sure of the exit from the freeway for the bowling alley, so if one of the valley people can help that would be great. If this sounds like a good plan, I will make up a map and post the week before the show. It's always fun to head down the road with a whole bunch of roadsters! Hope to see you there! Andrew Murphy1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653 A ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 17:07:42 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:08:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravans etc Andrew , You might want to start a Solvang meeting etc thread on 311 as well. The Woodlake Bowl in Woodland Hills is next to the 101 freeway. Here is the address etc to use for Mapquest: http://yellowpages.aol.com/business/ca/agoura-hills/woodlake-bowl/0-100319275/ Linda -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Murphy To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 2:12 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Friday Solvang Caravans Hello All, I hope everyone is getting into the spirit and getting their cars ready for Solvang! Shari and I are putting some final touches on the car and are way excited to head to the beautiful California Central Coast to see some of the finest Datsun Roadsters on the planet. We are both looking forward to seeing new cars and old friends. A good time to be had by all. I wanted to propose some final meeting times and places as it seems like we are going to have quite a few cars in the caravan this year. I know that the San Diego area crowd are planning to meet down there and then perhaps two stops in the LA area - one in Irvine and the other in Woodland Hills. I propose the stop in Irvine to be at the Spectrum (shopping center) at 11:00 AM and then the bowling alley parking lot in Woodland Hills at around 1PM. I am not sure of the exit from the freeway for the bowling alley, so if one of the valley people can help that would be great. If this sounds like a good plan, I will make up a map and post the week before the show. It's always fun to head down the road with a whole bunch of roadsters! Hope to see you there! Andrew Murphy1966 1600 ____________________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 17:43:16 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'peter harrison'" , "'datsun'" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:43:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Dash Lighting Upgrade Peter/List, Answer? I'd love to know also! Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:04 AM To: datsun Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Lighting Upgrade Hi There was a thread about installing LEDS as lighting replacements for the standard dash lighting - i thought i had saved it, but clearly I didn't - or at least i can't find it. could someone please give me some ideas thx peter You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 17:55:19 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'datsun'" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:55:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Emptying my head. product testimonials Hi all, I know I haven't written for a while. I have some product testimonials. E3 spark plugs. OMG! WAY better than Platinums. Get em! Look around. don't pay $10.00 each at Jegs. $6-$7 is about right. I have a GB EI on my '70 2000 Solex and didn't re-gap. They still work great. For a U20, E3.46 is your size. For cleaning that nasty crap off your Panasports, inner fenders, dash, steering wheel, wherever.Simple Green Max. (Diluted by 50% as the label says, and use a bottle brush or similar for the rims). AWESOME on grease, carbon, AND brake dust. A good all purpose clean-em-up juice. Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 18:27:14 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , "'datsun'" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:27:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Emptying my head. product testimonials One more testimonial. Pennzoil. It's cheap. You can use it for a carrier for your motor flush. Drain your good oil, add Pennzoil, add motor flush, run for a few minutes, drain again. Remove/replace filter, replace with your good oil again! LOL! Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:56 PM To: 'datsun' Subject: [Roadsters] Emptying my head. product testimonials Hi all, I know I haven't written for a while. I have some product testimonials. E3 spark plugs. OMG! WAY better than Platinums. Get em! Look around. don't pay $10.00 each at Jegs. $6-$7 is about right. I have a GB EI on my '70 2000 Solex and didn't re-gap. They still work great. For a U20, E3.46 is your size. For cleaning that nasty crap off your Panasports, inner fenders, dash, steering wheel, wherever.Simple Green Max. (Diluted by 50% as the label says, and use a bottle brush or similar for the rims). AWESOME on grease, carbon, AND brake dust. A good all purpose clean-em-up juice. Matt Smith You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 18:45:36 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'datsun'" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:46:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] SOLVANG, SOLVANG, See ya there!!!! Matt Smith Chattanooga TN! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 20:41:50 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: "Matthew A. Smith" , 'datsun' Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:41:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SOLVANG, SOLVANG, You go guys! PICS! PICS! PICS! Andrew Murphy 1966 1600> From: matthews517@earthlink.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:46:00 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] SOLVANG, SOLVANG, SOLVANG... Can we get a Heya from the folks doin Mitty?!?!> > See ya there!!!!> > > > Matt Smith> > Chattanooga TN!> ________________________________________> _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ getintouch_042008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 23:27:53 2008 From: Peter Jones To: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:28:23 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) I have the article and will send it on to those would like it _________________________________________________________________ Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Ea u%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den %5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 15 23:43:31 2008 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Andrew Murphy" , "Matthew A. Smith" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:43:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SOLVANG, SOLVANG, Andrew has it right.... Take pics. Lots of them. If you send them to me I will be happy host ALL of them so maybe we can see at least a couple of shots of every car in attendance.. Even those that are not perfect, which are usually all we see. NOWROC has unlimited storage and bandwidth. I have added a gallery, but it is not turned on yet. The forum will come back soon after being lost due to a host company going away. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.nowroc.org http://www.datsun2000.com -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Andrew Murphy Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:42 PM To: Matthew A. Smith; 'datsun' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SOLVANG, SOLVANG, SOLVANG... Can we get a Heya from the folks doin Mitty?!?! You go guys! PICS! PICS! PICS! Andrew Murphy 1966 1600> From: matthews517@earthlink.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:46:00 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] SOLVANG, SOLVANG, SOLVANG... Can we get a Heya from the folks doin Mitty?!?!> > See ya there!!!!> > > > Matt Smith> > Chattanooga TN!> ________________________________________> _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh _ getintouch_042008 You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 16 07:42:01 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:42:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Saturday Solvang Caravan time, Iron Bottom pics Anyone one of the local roadster brethren know how early the gas station at Woodlake Bowl (a 76?) opens in the morning? I was thinking maybe a 6am meet there for the Saturday caravan would get us to Solvang about 7:45 or 8. Oh, and on a sidenote, links to 2008 Iron Bottom pics are at this link, top of the page. http://www.bench-racing.com/html/no_frills.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 16 09:03:08 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: Fergus.OFarrell@ngc.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:02:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Saturday Solvang Caravan time, Iron Bottom pics Fergus, If you backtrack down Ventura Bl from the Woodlake Bowl there are several gas stations sure to be open, should not be a problem. Linda -----Original Message----- From: O'Farrell, Fergus To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 5:42 am Subject: [Roadsters] Saturday Solvang Caravan time, Iron Bottom pics Anyone one of the local roadster brethren know how early the gas station at Woodlake Bowl (a 76?) opens in the morning? I was thinking maybe a 6am meet there for the Saturday caravan would get us to Solvang about 7:45 or 8. Oh, and on a sidenote, links to 2008 Iron Bottom pics are at this link, top of the page. http://www.bench-racing.com/html/no_frills.html ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 16 12:48:59 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Matthew A. Smith" , "'datsun'" Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:49:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Emptying my head. product testimonials I use Simple Green on my tires before pressure washing. Spray on dry tires just before you wash. easier than scrubbing. Works for cleaning engines and engine bays too! Put on dry and pressure wash off. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy (Snow's gone and I found her under a winters worth of stuff not put away) 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'datsun'" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Emptying my head. product testimonials > Hi all, > > I know I haven't written for a while. I have some product testimonials. > > E3 spark plugs. OMG! WAY better than Platinums. Get em! Look around. don't > pay $10.00 each at Jegs. $6-$7 is about right. I have a GB EI on my '70 > 2000 > Solex and didn't re-gap. They still work great. For a U20, E3.46 is your > size. > > > > For cleaning that nasty crap off your Panasports, inner fenders, dash, > steering wheel, wherever.Simple Green Max. (Diluted by 50% as the label > says, and use a bottle brush or similar for the rims). AWESOME on grease, > carbon, AND brake dust. A good all purpose clean-em-up juice. > > > > Matt Smith > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 16 13:05:24 2008 From: "Mike H." To: "Bubba" , "Matthew A. Smith" Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:08:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Emptying my head. product testimonials I remember their were some, or at least one, list / forum member(s), (re-members - grin) with chemistry backgrounds, (mine got me into some controversial difficulty in the early seventies, the judge suggested I find a new and / or different "hobby"). I'm re-habilitated, older, and "wiser". Well, older, anyway. For those in the "know", there's no substitute for iso-butoxyethanol, or meta-silicate compounds. Come on now, am I right? You know I am! If you disagree, quite alright, I understand. Mike H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "Matthew A. Smith" ; "'datsun'" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Emptying my head. product testimonials > I use Simple Green on my tires before pressure washing. Spray on dry tires > just before you wash. easier than scrubbing. > > Works for cleaning engines and engine bays too! Put on dry and pressure > wash off. > > Bob Winslade > 1966-1600 Missy (Snow's gone and I found her under a winters worth of stuff > not put away) > 1967-1600 Bender > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew A. Smith" > To: "'datsun'" > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:55 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Emptying my head. product testimonials > > > Hi all, > > > > I know I haven't written for a while. I have some product testimonials. > > > > E3 spark plugs. OMG! WAY better than Platinums. Get em! Look around. don't > > pay $10.00 each at Jegs. $6-$7 is about right. I have a GB EI on my '70 > > 2000 > > Solex and didn't re-gap. They still work great. For a U20, E3.46 is your > > size. > > > > For cleaning that nasty crap off your Panasports, inner fenders, dash, > > steering wheel, wherever.Simple Green Max. (Diluted by 50% as the label > > says, and use a bottle brush or similar for the rims). AWESOME on grease, > > carbon, AND brake dust. A good all purpose clean-em-up juice. > > > > Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 16 17:03:50 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:04:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Choke cable knobs (Assuming there is...) I need to know the difference in the graphics on the choke knobs from year to year please. Pics or drawings would be great. If not, then "verbal" is fine. And is one style/year harder to come by than otehrs? TIA....very much Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 16 17:25:50 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: tputland@charter.net Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:26:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Choke cable knobs You can find a choke knob with no problem. Not sure about differences on pre 68 but they around. 68-69 are easy and have a "C" on them. 70 is a little harder with graphics. The HAND THROTTLE knob is getting into money territory. The 68-69 fan switch is still out there but a NOS 70 fan knob with the chrome trim is the holy grail. All others are out there. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 6:04 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Choke cable knobs (Assuming there is...) I need to know the difference in the graphics on the choke knobs from year to year please. Pics or drawings would be great. If not, then "verbal" is fine. And is one style/year harder to come by than otehrs? TIA....very much Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 16 19:40:29 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:40:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Choke cable knobs--follow up Thanks to all who responded. I found pics...thanks to Dean's site. In a batch of parts I bought I have two choke cables that are not from a Roadster. Any one recognize this: LOCK curved across the top with a curved arrow under that. Then under LOCK is a butterfly valve pic. On both sides of the butterfly valve pic are backwards parenthesis. Any one recognize this? I can send a pic to whomever is willing to hazard a guess. Thanks again. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Tim wrote: ============= (Assuming there is...) I need to know the difference in the graphics on the choke knobs from year to year please. Pics or drawings would be great. If not, then "verbal" is fine. And is one style/year harder to come by than otehrs? TIA....very much Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 16 19:58:18 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'datsun'" Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:58:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] A couple of questions Hi All, In order to save multiple emails, here are a few questions regarding my '70 SRL: How do I get the clock out without removing the dash? Is this possible? (I felt back there, and there don't seem to be any nuts to remove, as I'd hoped. I want to mount the Harmon Kardon "drive and play" screen in that space) What parts do I ask for when getting a cap/rotor for a non-vacuum advance Gary Boone EI? (I lost the page with that info) If I wish to replace the old style flasher unit with an electronic type(s), how many do I need? (I see multiples on the wiring schematic) Preparing for Mitty, Thanks! Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 16 20:54:09 2008 From: "Victor Laury" To: "O'Farrell, Fergus" , Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:54:20 -0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Saturday Solvang Caravan time, Iron Bottom pics Did ya catch this one? You and I talking over your car...... While it's still CLEAN!?!?! http://www.flickr.com/photos/21199629@N06/2414844383/in/set-7215760454762468 5/ -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+vlaury=roadrunner.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+vlaury=roadrunner.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:42 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Saturday Solvang Caravan time, Iron Bottom pics Anyone one of the local roadster brethren know how early the gas station at Woodlake Bowl (a 76?) opens in the morning? I was thinking maybe a 6am meet there for the Saturday caravan would get us to Solvang about 7:45 or 8. Oh, and on a sidenote, links to 2008 Iron Bottom pics are at this link, top of the page. http://www.bench-racing.com/html/no_frills.html ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 00:37:09 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:37:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A couple of questions Matthew Having just taken my dash out and looked behind the scenes, IMHO, it would be v. hard to take the clock out, speedo, yup, tach, yup, gauge cluster, praps, oil sender would be a toughie, but unless you have access to a person with long and narrow wrists - not going to be easy -- there is a nut on each side of the clock that hold it in place and they are right up against the front of the dash. I have it on good authority, that r&r can be accomplished in 2 hours or so, provided that the relevant screws/bolts are not too tight. Peter > From: matthews517@earthlink.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:58:23 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] A couple of > > Hi All,> > In order to save multiple emails, here are a few questions regarding my '70> SRL:> > How do I get the clock out without removing the dash? Is this possible? (I> felt back there, and there don't seem to be any nuts to remove, as I'd> hoped. I want to mount the Harmon Kardon "drive and play" screen in that> space)> > What parts do I ask for when getting a cap/rotor for a non-vacuum advance> Gary Boone EI? (I lost the page with that info)> > If I wish to replace the old style flasher unit with an electronic type(s),> how many do I need? (I see multiples on the wiring schematic)> > > > Preparing for Mitty,> > Thanks!> > Matt> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 09:24:57 2008 From: "Gerardo Magana" To: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:24:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Everwing fog lamps Hello all, I have a set of rechromed everwing fog lamps, very nice condition that I would like to sell, call me if you are interested. Thanks, Gerardo 209-499-9193 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 11:55:57 2008 From: Leigh Brooks To: Datsun list Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:56:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Hood River Run postponed due to snow! The weatherman is calling for snow down to 500 ft in the gorge this weekend! So we have decided to postpone the event. We'll have a new date soon! I'll send emails to those who have RSVP'd and post on 311s.org - if you know someone who was planning on attending, please let them know! Thanks, Leigh Brooks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 12:42:54 2008 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: "Leigh Brooks" , "Datsun list" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:43:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hood River Run postponed due to snow! WHAT!! Come on guys - it is just little snow! Man, I remember pushing snow with the bumper of my Roadster. Get out and be a man - no tops allowed - on the Roadster or you... AR, AR, AR.. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Leigh Brooks Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:56 AM To: Datsun list Subject: [Roadsters] Hood River Run postponed due to snow! The weatherman is calling for snow down to 500 ft in the gorge this weekend! So we have decided to postpone the event. We'll have a new date soon! I'll send emails to those who have RSVP'd and post on 311s.org - if you know someone who was planning on attending, please let them know! Thanks, Leigh Brooks _ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 13:41:44 2008 From: "E Scanlon" To: "Hall, Phillip B. \(MSFC-ED03\)" , "Leigh Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:31:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hood River Run postponed due to snow! I lived in Michigan and Iowa for a total of 16 years, and I can tell you for a fact that it isn't the snow... it's the driver's who think snow is just stiff rain, and they're the same ones that don't drive so well in the rain. Around here, snow...period...receives round the clock - break into your favorite show news coverage. A fact that my wife STILL find hilarious after being here 18 years. "Snow Watch 200X", or StormWatch or some other catch phrase....with the intro line "And three snow flakes have been observed in the west hills, with reports coming in that they might take Max downtown....." and all this over less than an inch of snow. Why? Well, because the average driver in this part of the valley simply does NOT know how to drive in it. I once observed a person in a front wheel drive car accelerate from a light so hard that they spun the tires... and promptly got stuck....only to accelerate MORE!! That car ended up stuck in less than an inch of snow because they melted a hole with the tire's friction. As much as I would like to make it, the Roadster is just not yet ready. So I was going to drive the Z....which kind of defeats the purpose of joining a bunch of Roadster owners for a drive....in a Z. So I concur, since I had held off on confirming based on whether I could get the Roadster finished or not. Enrique > WHAT!! Come on guys - it is just little snow! Man, I remember pushing > snow with the bumper of my Roadster. > > Get out and be a man - no tops allowed - on the Roadster or you... AR, > AR, AR.. > Subject: [Roadsters] Hood River Run postponed due to snow! > > The weatherman is calling for snow down to 500 ft in the gorge this > weekend! > > So we have decided to postpone the event. We'll have a new date soon! > > I'll send emails to those who have RSVP'd and post on 311s.org - if you > know someone who was planning on attending, please let them know! > > Thanks, > > Leigh Brooks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 14:12:09 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:09:48 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Summit Point May 17-18 The SCCA races at Summit Point West Virginia have been the gather spot for east coast Datsun 510 owners for some 10 years now. But roadster have always been welcomed. It's time for a few more roadster owners to show up and join the fun. Camping at the track is the only way to enjoy all the fun, but hotels are available in nearby Charles Town. Mention the Datsun Club at the gate and save $5. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 14:12:53 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:09:48 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Motivation? I can't get down to the Mitty at Road Atlanta this year. Knowing that, I just haven't had the motivation to get my roadster out of its winter hiding place. I thought warmer weather would do the trick this week since it has been 70+ all week. But the sun only made me dig my fishing rod out. Nice to have a pond across the street full of big bass. But the roadster remained tucked away under cover acting more like a shelf than a car. Today things changed. Watching Craig Halsted wind up his latest purchase, a '69 2000, as he left my place today, taking the zig-zag corners just down the road, ... WOW! Motivation! Got out the battery charger as soon as Craig was out of sight and hooked it up long enough to clean everything out of the way. Took a second or two for the fuel pump to settle down, but just a bump of the starter got the KA24 rumbling. A bit of a warm up and I took a beautiful ride around the block. New tires are required before I tackle that left right corner out front, but it was great just taking an easy ride. Thanks Craig! Now to decide what tires to buy and get those Empi's cleaned up. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 14:44:31 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: "E Scanlon" , "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:44:46 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hood River Run postponed due to snow! Yeah, the roadster mo' bettah, but if the Z is the only thing running.... I was resigned to driving the Chrysler Pig Car (aka '94 Concorde) since it became apparent this week that I couldn't have the 411 ready. Now, depending on the new date, it might be. Pete "almost Friday" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "E Scanlon" > I lived in Michigan and Iowa for a total of 16 years, and I can tell you for > a fact that it isn't the snow... > it's the driver's who think snow is just stiff rain, and they're the same > ones that don't drive so well in the rain. > > Around here, snow...period...receives round the clock - break into your > favorite show news coverage. A fact that my wife STILL find hilarious after > being here 18 years. "Snow Watch 200X", or StormWatch or some other catch > phrase....with the intro line "And three snow flakes have been observed in > the west hills, with reports coming in that they might take Max > downtown....." and all this over less than an inch of snow. Why? Well, > because the average driver in this part of the valley simply does NOT know > how to drive in it. I once observed a person in a front wheel drive car > accelerate from a light so hard that they spun the tires... and promptly got > stuck....only to accelerate MORE!! That car ended up stuck in less than an > inch of snow because they melted a hole with the tire's friction. > > As much as I would like to make it, the Roadster is just not yet ready. So > I was going to drive the Z....which kind of defeats the purpose of joining a > bunch of Roadster owners for a drive....in a Z. > > So I concur, since I had held off on confirming based on whether I could get > the Roadster finished or not. > > Enrique > > > > WHAT!! Come on guys - it is just little snow! Man, I remember pushing > > snow with the bumper of my Roadster. > > > > Get out and be a man - no tops allowed - on the Roadster or you... AR, > > AR, AR.. > > > > > Subject: [Roadsters] Hood River Run postponed due to snow! > > > > The weatherman is calling for snow down to 500 ft in the gorge this > > weekend! > > > > So we have decided to postpone the event. We'll have a new date soon! > > > > I'll send emails to those who have RSVP'd and post on 311s.org - if you > > know someone who was planning on attending, please let them know! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Leigh Brooks > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 15:24:09 2008 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Speedo gear Does anyone know where I can get a new speedo gear / sleeve setup? I currently have a 18 tooth gear and I think I'm registering speeds 130% of what they should be. So I should probably go to a 23 or 24 tooth gear -- or change the drive gear, if possible. Weird part hunt. My favorite. Nathaniel '69 2000 SU White ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 16:40:44 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:40:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Speedo gear I believe dean has a complete set - also someone has a ratio calculating spreadsheet - so you can accurately configure what you need > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:23:45 -0400> From: nmleeds@mindspring.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Speedo gear> > Does anyone know where I can get a new speedo gear / sleeve setup? I currently have a 18 tooth gear and I think I'm registering speeds 130% of what they should be. So I should probably go to a 23 or 24 tooth gear -- or change the drive gear, if possible.> > Weird part hunt. My favorite.> > Nathaniel> '69 2000 SU White> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 16:49:47 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: E Scanlon , "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:49:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Chains I recall chaining up my 1600 for a drive back to college. Deep, heavy snow but it worked! Kind of a slow, rough ride though. Not recommended. -Greg SRL31100494 On 4/17/08 11:31 AM, "E Scanlon" wrote: > I lived in Michigan and Iowa for a total of 16 years, and I can tell you for > a fact that it isn't the snow... > it's the driver's who think snow is just stiff rain, and they're the same > ones that don't drive so well in the rain. > > Around here, snow...period...receives round the clock - break into your > favorite show news coverage. A fact that my wife STILL find hilarious after > being here 18 years. "Snow Watch 200X", or StormWatch or some other catch > phrase....with the intro line "And three snow flakes have been observed in > the west hills, with reports coming in that they might take Max > downtown....." and all this over less than an inch of snow. Why? Well, > because the average driver in this part of the valley simply does NOT know > how to drive in it. I once observed a person in a front wheel drive car > accelerate from a light so hard that they spun the tires... and promptly got > stuck....only to accelerate MORE!! That car ended up stuck in less than an > inch of snow because they melted a hole with the tire's friction. > > As much as I would like to make it, the Roadster is just not yet ready. So > I was going to drive the Z....which kind of defeats the purpose of joining a > bunch of Roadster owners for a drive....in a Z. > > So I concur, since I had held off on confirming based on whether I could get > the Roadster finished or not. > > Enrique > > >> WHAT!! Come on guys - it is just little snow! Man, I remember pushing >> snow with the bumper of my Roadster. >> >> Get out and be a man - no tops allowed - on the Roadster or you... AR, >> AR, AR.. > > > >> Subject: [Roadsters] Hood River Run postponed due to snow! >> >> The weatherman is calling for snow down to 500 ft in the gorge this >> weekend! >> >> So we have decided to postpone the event. We'll have a new date soon! >> >> I'll send emails to those who have RSVP'd and post on 311s.org - if you >> know someone who was planning on attending, please let them know! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Leigh Brooks > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 17:09:38 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:10:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A couple of questions You need a cap and rotor for a 1980 Datsun/Nissan 210 or 310 with an A series engine, a-14 a-15 etc. Get a brass contact set if you can. There are 2 flashers You are on your own with the clock, never tried that one. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: Matthew A. Smith [mailto:matthews517@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:58 PM To: 'datsun' Subject: [Roadsters] A couple of questions Hi All, In order to save multiple emails, here are a few questions regarding my '70 SRL: How do I get the clock out without removing the dash? Is this possible? (I felt back there, and there don't seem to be any nuts to remove, as I'd hoped. I want to mount the Harmon Kardon "drive and play" screen in that space) What parts do I ask for when getting a cap/rotor for a non-vacuum advance Gary Boone EI? (I lost the page with that info) If I wish to replace the old style flasher unit with an electronic type(s), how many do I need? (I see multiples on the wiring schematic) Preparing for Mitty, Thanks! Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 18:28:54 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'dave'" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:29:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A couple of questions Thanks Dave, You're the only one who replied with the Flasher info so far. I guess I have to go get a second one. I got an email from Gary "the man" himself about the rotor and cap. "Cap and rotor for a 1982 Nissan 210 (1.4 L engine if they have to ask what engine)". I assume the later year may have the brass contact set. I'm thinking some Velcro tape on the OUTSIDE of the dash OVER the clock may be the way to go to mount my iPod controller screen. I have too much other stuff I want to do before Mitty to frustrate myself taking out everything I would need to (heater box, controllers, etc., to get my fat ass close enough to the clock to pull it! Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:10 PM To: 'Matthew A. Smith' Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A couple of questions You need a cap and rotor for a 1980 Datsun/Nissan 210 or 310 with an A series engine, a-14 a-15 etc. Get a brass contact set if you can. There are 2 flashers You are on your own with the clock, never tried that one. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: Matthew A. Smith [mailto:matthews517@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:58 PM To: 'datsun' Subject: [Roadsters] A couple of questions Hi All, In order to save multiple emails, here are a few questions regarding my '70 SRL: How do I get the clock out without removing the dash? Is this possible? (I felt back there, and there don't seem to be any nuts to remove, as I'd hoped. I want to mount the Harmon Kardon "drive and play" screen in that space) What parts do I ask for when getting a cap/rotor for a non-vacuum advance Gary Boone EI? (I lost the page with that info) If I wish to replace the old style flasher unit with an electronic type(s), how many do I need? (I see multiples on the wiring schematic) Preparing for Mitty, Thanks! Matt You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 18:37:48 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:38:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Motivation? Paul, I love my Goodyear Eagle F1's! The Bass are biting huh? Hmmmm. I know you've told me before, but what part of Ohio?!?!?! Only one road trip this spring/summer (Mitty) WON'T do it! LOL! I LOVE zig zag corners (actually I used to use Zig-Zag cutcorners back in my younger days for easier rolling). Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:10 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] Motivation? I can't get down to the Mitty at Road Atlanta this year. Knowing that, I just haven't had the motivation to get my roadster out of its winter hiding place. I thought warmer weather would do the trick this week since it has been 70+ all week. But the sun only made me dig my fishing rod out. Nice to have a pond across the street full of big bass. But the roadster remained tucked away under cover acting more like a shelf than a car. Today things changed. Watching Craig Halsted wind up his latest purchase, a '69 2000, as he left my place today, taking the zig-zag corners just down the road, ... WOW! Motivation! Got out the battery charger as soon as Craig was out of sight and hooked it up long enough to clean everything out of the way. Took a second or two for the fuel pump to settle down, but just a bump of the starter got the KA24 rumbling. A bit of a warm up and I took a beautiful ride around the block. New tires are required before I tackle that left right corner out front, but it was great just taking an easy ride. Thanks Craig! Now to decide what tires to buy and get those Empi's cleaned up. Paul Ohio You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 22:31:29 2008 From: "Oliver" To: "'datsun'" Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:58:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Emptying my head. product testimonials anyone have kids? baby wipes for cleaning the engine compartment, etc ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 06:15:57 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 4:10:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Chains I can remember Dad and I taking the Roadster to Tahoe to go skiing on a regular basis when I was a kid. I even have the tire chains still. Hard to imagine that this little car has been up over Donner pass more times than I can count. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "Gregory S. Morrison" wrote: ============= I recall chaining up my 1600 for a drive back to college. Deep, heavy snow but it worked! Kind of a slow, rough ride though. Not recommended. -Greg SRL31100494 On 4/17/08 11:31 AM, "E Scanlon" wrote: > I lived in Michigan and Iowa for a total of 16 years, and I can tell you for > a fact that it isn't the snow... > it's the driver's who think snow is just stiff rain, and they're the same > ones that don't drive so well in the rain. > > Around here, snow...period...receives round the clock - break into your > favorite show news coverage. A fact that my wife STILL find hilarious after > being here 18 years. "Snow Watch 200X", or StormWatch or some other catch > phrase....with the intro line "And three snow flakes have been observed in > the west hills, with reports coming in that they might take Max > downtown....." and all this over less than an inch of snow. Why? Well, > because the average driver in this part of the valley simply does NOT know > how to drive in it. I once observed a person in a front wheel drive car > accelerate from a light so hard that they spun the tires... and promptly got > stuck....only to accelerate MORE!! That car ended up stuck in less than an > inch of snow because they melted a hole with the tire's friction. > > As much as I would like to make it, the Roadster is just not yet ready. So > I was going to drive the Z....which kind of defeats the purpose of joining a > bunch of Roadster owners for a drive....in a Z. > > So I concur, since I had held off on confirming based on whether I could get > the Roadster finished or not. > > Enrique > > >> WHAT!! Come on guys - it is just little snow! Man, I remember pushing >> snow with the bumper of my Roadster. >> >> Get out and be a man - no tops allowed - on the Roadster or you... AR, >> AR, AR.. > > > >> Subject: [Roadsters] Hood River Run postponed due to snow! >> >> The weatherman is calling for snow down to 500 ft in the gorge this >> weekend! >> >> So we have decided to postpone the event. We'll have a new date soon! >> >> I'll send emails to those who have RSVP'd and post on 311s.org - if you >> know someone who was planning on attending, please let them know! >> >> Thanks, ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 07:47:10 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: 9laser3@bright.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:42:28 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Motivation? In a message dated 4/17/2008 12:13:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 9laser3@bright.net writes: I can't get down to the Mitty at Road Atlanta this year. Paul Ohio Darn the luck, I was looking forward to seeing you there. keith **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 10:22:22 2008 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:20:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Body Weight Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame? Brian '68 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 10:37:09 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:30:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight 6 - one at each corner > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:20:59 -0700> From: bstjacques@atrua.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Body Weight> > Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I> have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any> recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame?> > Brian> '68 1600> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 10:53:41 2008 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: bstjacques@atrua.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:41:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame? Brian, I lifted my body off of the frame with a typical engine cherry picker.? I attached a chain to the seat belt mounting holes on the tunnel and hooked the cherry picker to that.? It took one person manning the lift and one man on front since the mounting location was not at the center of gravity.? When lifted like this the person in front of the body must support a weight of approximately?75 pounds.? I think this would be safer than trying to lift with 4 people.? I did give that a thought though. Note: keep doors on to help structurally support body and?be careful to not?hit the boom with top of door. John Over -----Original Message----- From: Brian St. Jacques To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 9:20 am Subject: [Roadsters] Body Weight Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame? Brian '68 1600 You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 11:09:35 2008 From: To: peter harrison Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:55:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight Ok, its Friday, I'm at work, it's 75 degrees outside and I am tired and want to go home. Where are the other 2 corners? Mike Faggart 68 2L seroc ---- peter harrison wrote: > 6 - one at each corner > > > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:20:59 -0700> From: bstjacques@atrua.com> To: > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Body Weight> > Anyone > have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I> have the > interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any> recommendations > on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame?> > Brian> '68 1600> > ________________________________________> Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as > granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > > http://www.team.net/archive> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikef@carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 11:39:55 2008 From: andycost@embarqmail.com To: datsun-roadsters Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight The body is close to 400 pounds. The frame is close to 400 pounds. The engine is close to 400 pounds. Everything else (fenders, hood, deck lid, carpet, seats, etc...) is close to 600 pounds. 2000 pounds total. Roughly. I used an engine hoist several times. I used two nylon tie down straps. one went straight across between the holes in front of the door jamb where the hold open bar resides. The other went straight across between the large holes beside the package tray. They were both attached to the hook on the engine hoist. I was able to adjust the front one tighter and the rear one looser in order to get the body to lift evenly. Ratcheting tie down straps work best for fine tuning the body angle. The body on my car only weighs 150 pounds give or take. I have gutted most everything and cut everything off in front of the firewall and behind the step up to the package tray. Andy PS - You'll always find something that you forgot to remove like the throttle cable, brake line, etc... That makes the lift quite a bit more weight. ----- Original Message ----- From: jover4x4@aol.com To: bstjacques@atrua.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:41:11 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 11:41:45 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "peter harrison" , Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:22:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight My roadster only has 4 corners. If it had 6 I don't think it would be salvageable Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy (half dug out from being winter's catch all) 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight >6 - one at each corner > >> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:20:59 -0700> From: bstjacques@atrua.com> To: > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Body Weight> > > Anyone > have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I> have > the > interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any> > recommendations > on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame?> > Brian> '68 > 1600> > ________________________________________> Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as > granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > > http://www.team.net/archive> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 12:08:50 2008 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: , "datsun-roadsters" Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:52:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight So were you just hooking the tie downs to open holes in vertical sections of the body, or were you doing anything to secure them - like bolting them down? Brian -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of andycost@embarqmail.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:17 AM To: datsun-roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight The body is close to 400 pounds. The frame is close to 400 pounds. The engine is close to 400 pounds. Everything else (fenders, hood, deck lid, carpet, seats, etc...) is close to 600 pounds. 2000 pounds total. Roughly. I used an engine hoist several times. I used two nylon tie down straps. one went straight across between the holes in front of the door jamb where the hold open bar resides. The other went straight across between the large holes beside the package tray. They were both attached to the hook on the engine hoist. I was able to adjust the front one tighter and the rear one looser in order to get the body to lift evenly. Ratcheting tie down straps work best for fine tuning the body angle. The body on my car only weighs 150 pounds give or take. I have gutted most everything and cut everything off in front of the firewall and behind the step up to the package tray. Andy PS - You'll always find something that you forgot to remove like the throttle cable, brake line, etc... That makes the lift quite a bit more weight. ----- Original Message ----- From: jover4x4@aol.com To: bstjacques@atrua.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:41:11 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame? You are subscribed as bstjacques@atrua.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 12:47:39 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:24:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Interesting WebSite Re Datsuns http://www.earlydatsun.com/index.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 15:12:07 2008 From: Ruth Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 05:47:16 +1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interesting WebSite Re Datsuns Hehehe! Yes, it is, isn't it? Ruth PS Check out this page: http://www.earlydatsun.com/us.html . She looks alright! :-) On 19/04/2008, at 3:24 AM, peter harrison wrote: > http://www.earlydatsun.com/index.html > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ruth@earlydatsun.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 16:12:57 2008 From: "Richard Brown" To: "datsun-roadsters" Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:45:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight I ran I bolts through the seat mount holes then through 6" 2x6's. I hooked my tow chains to the I bolts from side to side and crossing them. The cherry picker lifted the body right off. The 2x6's gave support against flexing. It is easier to remove with two people but I've done it alone more than once. Go slow so if anything is stuck you don't bend something. Richard Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: ; "datsun-roadsters" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight > So were you just hooking the tie downs to open holes in vertical > sections of the body, or were you doing anything to secure them - like > bolting them down? > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of andycost@embarqmail.com > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:17 AM > To: datsun-roadsters > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight > > The body is close to 400 pounds. The frame is close to 400 pounds. The > engine is close to 400 pounds. Everything else (fenders, hood, deck lid, > carpet, seats, etc...) is close to 600 pounds. 2000 pounds total. > Roughly. > > I used an engine hoist several times. I used two nylon tie down straps. > one went straight across between the holes in front of the door jamb > where the hold open bar resides. The other went straight across between > the large holes beside the package tray. They were both attached to the > hook on the engine hoist. I was able to adjust the front one tighter > and the rear one looser in order to get the body to lift evenly. > Ratcheting tie down straps work best for fine tuning the body angle. > > The body on my car only weighs 150 pounds give or take. I have gutted > most everything and cut everything off in front of the firewall and > behind the step up to the package tray. > > Andy > > PS - You'll always find something that you forgot to remove like the > throttle cable, brake line, etc... That makes the lift quite a bit more > weight. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jover4x4@aol.com > To: bstjacques@atrua.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:41:11 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight > > Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I > have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any > recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 17:30:59 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: ruth@earlydatsun.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:08:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interesting WebSite Re Datsuns Y'all have your own personal Solvang, don't you? LOL Linda -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Cc: datsun Sent: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:47 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interesting WebSite Re Datsuns Hehehe! Yes, it is, isn't it? Ruth PS Check out this page: http://www.earlydatsun.com/us.html . She looks alright! :-) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 18 18:47:23 2008 From: Daniel Solomon To: "Brian St. Jacques" Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:40:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight hehehe i did this at 2:30am... nobody was around to help, and i managed to get it onto my rotisserie. 1 person. but i think two would be easier :-) Brian St. Jacques wrote: > Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I > have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any > recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame? > > Brian > '68 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 01:02:49 2008 From: "jtorres67" To: Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:03:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SOLVANG 2008.....A couple of important things Hey all, A couple of things regarding Solvang. Thursday April 24th will be the last day I check my Post Office Box for registrations...sooo if you register and possibly, remotely, think it will get to me Friday, wait 'till Saturday and register the day of the show. I plan on being in Solvang on Thursday evening and we will be staying at the Motel 6. Other things....Unfortunately The Mendenhall Museum notified me that we they will be charging $5 at the door for all adults entering the museum(kids are free). Up until this year they have always charged our group a flat fee, which we again paid this year. They are now requiring admission plus a "user" fee that we already have paid. They tried to collect Sooo. there ya' have it. Don't kill the messenger or the show organizer. It is a drag, I don't like it and am disappointed, but I figure an extra $5 won't kill anyone. Besides...think of all the good times and camaraderie we have on friday nights. Hope you all understand. Jeff T. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 07:32:19 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Brian St. Jacques'" , Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:32:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight Brian, Sorry I don't have an answer for you, but... however many people you determine you need, get two more. Body work is a pain. ESPECIALLY body work that didn't need to be done BEFORE YOU STARTED! LOL! Matt Smith (About to go outside and play with my car to put on some of the pretty pieces I made, cleaned, painted, or polished this winter) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian St. Jacques Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:21 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Body Weight Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame? Brian '68 1600 You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 07:37:52 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'jtorres67'" , Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:38:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SOLVANG 2008.....A couple of important things And what's one gallon of Premium gas among friends? Matt :-) It is a drag, I don't like it and am disappointed, but I figure an extra $5 won't kill anyone. Jeff T. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 07:44:53 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , "'Brian St. Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:45:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight And don't forget to have one extra person to look underneath, while the rest of you lift, to find out what wire/hose/bolt is still connected and stopping you from lifting the body clear of the frame! BTDT! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:33 AM To: 'Brian St. Jacques'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight Brian, Sorry I don't have an answer for you, but... however many people you determine you need, get two more. Body work is a pain. ESPECIALLY body work that didn't need to be done BEFORE YOU STARTED! LOL! Matt Smith (About to go outside and play with my car to put on some of the pretty pieces I made, cleaned, painted, or polished this winter) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian St. Jacques Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:21 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Body Weight Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame? Brian '68 1600 You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 16:41:47 2008 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] castle nut on the end of the spindle hi everyone i'm putting my hubs back together. and i'm wondering, because i could not find it in the service manual, what is the convention for tightening that nut? the one on the end of the spindle, through which the cotter pin goes. is it tightened to a certain torque? i have no idea really. thank you in advance steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 17:17:05 2008 From: Pat Horne To: steven boortz Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:17:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] castle nut on the end of the spindle Steve, The way I do it is to tighten the nut with a wrench while spinning the hub. Tighten the nut until it is snug, then back it off until it is loose. Next, tighten it finger tight, and check to see if either of the holes in the spindle line up with a space in the nut. If one does, put the cotter pin in. If not, loosen the nut until you are able to get the cotter pin in. Peace, Pat Thusly spake steven boortz: > hi everyone > i'm putting my hubs back together. and i'm wondering, because i could not find it in the service manual, what is the convention for tightening that nut? the one on the end of the spindle, through which the cotter pin goes. is it tightened to a certain torque? i have no idea really. > thank you in advance > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 21:26:09 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:26:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight well - that's ALMOST 6 , G> > From: 9laser3@bright.net> To: matthews517@earthlink.net; bstjacques@atrua.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:45:05 -0400> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight> > And don't forget to have one extra person to look underneath, while the> rest of you lift, to find out what wire/hose/bolt is still connected and> stopping you from lifting the body clear of the frame!> > BTDT!> Paul> Ohio> > -----Original Message-----> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On> Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:33 AM> To: 'Brian St. Jacques'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight> > Brian,> Sorry I don't have an answer for you, but... however many people you> determine you need, get two more. Body work is a pain. ESPECIALLY body work> that didn't need to be done BEFORE YOU STARTED! LOL!> Matt Smith> (About to go outside and play with my car to put on some of the pretty> pieces I made, cleaned, painted, or polished this winter)> > -----Original Message-----> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net]> On Behalf Of Brian St. Jacques> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:21 AM> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Body Weight> > Anyone have a rough idea on the weight of the roadster body by itself? I> have the interior fully gutted, no top, all body panels in place. Any> recommendations on the number of people to use to lift it off the frame?> > Brian> '68 1600> You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 08:13:26 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "steven boortz" , "roadsters" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:13:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] castle nut on the end of the spindle Steve, I'll put this out there and let the rest of the list take shots at it. I've never seen written direction on re-assembly of the front hubs that I can recall. What I have done is to tighten the spindle (castle) nut until there is no play between the spindle and the hub If you grask the tire by the OD, you'll see movement if there is any. After getting it to the point of no movement, I back the spindle nut off just enough to get the cotter pin into one of the slots. Between the two holes in the spindle, and the number of slots in the spindle nut, you'll only need to back it off a bit. You still should see any play. Then drive the car a bit and re-check. If you have installed new bearings, it may take a bit of driving to get them seated completely. (In my mind "bit" = a mile or so.) You want the spindle nut just tight enough so there is no play. It doesn't need to be any tighter. Anybody else? Bubba, how do you do it? Now, I can tell you what happens if you get too much grease in the front hubs: You wind up spending part of a Sunday morning in a Holiday Inn parking lot in Phoenix on your way from LA to Houston dismantling the hubs, taking out some grease, and trying to clean the grease which blew past the seals off the brake pads. (In 1973, everything in Phoenix was closed on Sunday mornings.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven boortz" To: "roadsters" Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: [Roadsters] castle nut on the end of the spindle > hi everyone > i'm putting my hubs back together. and i'm wondering, because i could not > find it in the service manual, what is the convention for tightening that > nut? the one on the end of the spindle, through which the cotter pin > goes. is it tightened to a certain torque? i have no idea really. > thank you in advance > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 08:36:11 2008 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Body Weight if you look on 311s.org you will also see a methodology for using an engine lift. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 12:33:29 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:33:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Walter Mitty Hi All, For anyone interested in where the 'Mitty' came from, Turner Classic Movies (TCM) has the 1947 movie starting in half an hour. FYI ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 14:33:18 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" , "bluebirds" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:33:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 2 pcs Empi ?s I'm finally getting around to cleaning up a set of 2 pieces vintage Empi wheels I picked up several years ago. They never would hold air si I know I have to split the rims and clean up the seals. I have new o-rings to install. So, how do the tires come off? Can I just pull the rims apart or does it still require a big tire machine? Or should I sell the wheels and go look for something newer? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 17:04:23 2008 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:04:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2 pcs Empi ?s No big machine needed. It's been awhile, but this is what I remember. Let all the air out, unbolt the 2 halves, and push the sidewall in. The tire is a bit of a friction fit to the wheel halves, and I may have taken a 2x4 and 3 lb hammer to push the tire lip off the rim half, but I don't remember it being that hard to do. Make sure you clean the groove well, and fill any voids (I used JB Weld) so that gasket has a smooth surface to rest on. Mine still leak a little, I have to add air 3-4 times a year. Next time I take them apart, I'll paint the inside. Also, if you go with inside weights, make sure they don't put them on top of the ribs, or they'll rub on the brake parts. Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:34 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters'; bluebirds Subject: [Roadsters] 2 pcs Empi ?s I'm finally getting around to cleaning up a set of 2 pieces vintage Empi wheels I picked up several years ago. They never would hold air si I know I have to split the rims and clean up the seals. I have new o-rings to install. So, how do the tires come off? Can I just pull the rims apart or does it still require a big tire machine? Or should I sell the wheels and go look for something newer? Paul Ohio You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 17:53:01 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:54:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Portable MP3 Not being current with current MP3 technology I was looking for suggestions on a portable MP3 player. It has to handle more than 2000 songs and have the ability to transmit an FM signal to play over the car audio system. I would prefer not to use the well known IPOD. Thanks! Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 18:13:01 2008 From: Ron Hamilton To: SlowBoy Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:13:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Portable MP3 Isn't that an FM station??? SlowBoy wrote: ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 19:51:45 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: 9laser3@bright.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:52:01 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2 pcs Empi ?s In a message dated 4/20/2008 12:34:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 9laser3@bright.net writes: I'm finally getting around to cleaning up a set of 2 pieces vintage Empi wheels I picked up several years ago. They never would hold air si I know I have to split the rims and clean up the seals. I have new o-rings to install. So, how do the tires come off? Can I just pull the rims apart or does it still require a big tire machine? Or should I sell the wheels and go look for something newer? Paul Ohio Paul, Don't bother, I'll take them off your hands in June. What's scrap going for these days? (just kidding) I would think either way would work to get them apart. You will still need to unseat the beads but that shouldn't be too hard. Putting two part rims back together with the tire and a tube can be tough. Are they magnesium or aluminum? I've heard the mag ones tend to stress crack so they need checked closely when you have them apart. keith **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 19:58:02 2008 From: "Todd Osborn" To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:58:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2 pcs Empi ?s I don't recommend using a hammer; I broke an EMPI rim that way. Fortunately it was on the inside and I was able to have it Heli-Arc welded. To separate the halves, set the rim and tire on an old carpet to protect the spokes. Let all the air out and remove the Schrader valve, pry the tire free from the edge of the rim using two large screwdrivers or tire irons. The inside of the rim does not have a locking bead, but is slightly tapered from the center to the edge so there will be some resistance for the first inch or so; just keep working around the rim to move the tire bead down. Once the tire is worked free then remove the eight nuts holding the halves together. If the rim halves are stuck together you can wedge a putty knife between the halves, but only insert about 1/8" or you may damage the sealing surface. It is safest to pry where the studs are, since the seal surface is on the other side of the stud. You may need to pry with screwdrivers but again only insert a little to prevent damage. If you try using o-rings (I didn't have much luck and went with inner tubes), you need to get the flat surface on the inboard half of the rim smooth and pit free. Likewise the bottom of the groove in the outboard half needs to be smooth and pit free. I recall Parker seal call for an 8 microinch finish, nearly mirror polish. The sides of the groove are less critical, but need to be clean. The o-ring should have about a 20% squeeze and should be lubricated with compatible grease. I don't know the spec torque for the nuts, but I use blue Loctite and torque to 35 ft-lbs. Todd Osborn DATSFUN - 68 2000 San Jose, Ca PS - Joe are you and Kate going to Solvang? EveAnn and I are leaving Friday around 1:30pm. Joe Kinstle wrote: No big machine needed. It's been awhile, but this is what I remember. Let all the air out, unbolt the 2 halves, and push the sidewall in. The tire is a bit of a friction fit to the wheel halves, and I may have taken a 2x4 and 3 lb hammer to push the tire lip off the rim half, but I don't remember it being that hard to do. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 08:08:19 2008 From: Tim To: mgs@autox.team.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Mike Harper Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 6:08:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rescued '73 MG Midget for sale Isn't is sacrilege to advertise an mg on the Datsun Roadster list forum? ;-) Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Mike Harper wrote: ============= several months ago, I rescued this great '73 Midget project car from a sure death in a field. The owner had given up on ever restoring it (son lost interest) , and he called me because he knew I was a car guy. It is much too good to part out, and I do not have the time (or passion) to restore it. It is pretty much "all there" and ran good when he parked it a couple of years ago. I have the bills of sale and the last title (NC). Here is the Craigs List link. I need the garage space. Someone come get it! I will negotiate for a quick pick up. Wish I had the time... http://charleston.craigslist.org/car/635942907.html Mike Harper Mt Pleasant (Charleston) SC You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 08:23:33 2008 From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com To: tputland@charter.net, mgs@autox.team.net, Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:24:16 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rescued '73 MG Midget for sale Strange thought but the motor design from the fairlady's came from Austin Healey. Isn't that to other side of the pond and same neighborhood as the MG's?? Gary In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:09:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, tputland@charter.net writes: Isn't is sacrilege to advertise an mg on the Datsun Roadster list forum? ;-) Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Mike Harper wrote: ============= several months ago, I rescued this great '73 Midget project car from a sure death in a field. The owner had given up on ever restoring it (son lost interest) , and he called me because he knew I was a car guy. It is much too good to part out, and I do not have the time (or passion) to restore it. It is pretty much "all there" and ran good when he parked it a couple of years ago. I have the bills of sale and the last title (NC). Here is the Craigs List link. I need the garage space. Someone come get it! I will negotiate for a quick pick up. Wish I had the time... http://charleston.craigslist.org/car/635942907.html Mike Harper Mt Pleasant (Charleston) SC You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as barterdude@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 09:23:52 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Tim" Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:18:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] advertising non-roadsters on the list does that mean I shouldn't tell anyone on the list about the nice Volvo 122s Amazon or the GMC Eleganza motorhome I have available? ;-) had a nice run home in the 69 2000 I picked up in Kalamazoo a week ago, got to visit Lee Ehinger and Paul Kort on the way home as well as the Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum :-) they had a '48 Lincoln Continental Coupe in the collection too, a fellow list member picked one of those up off me a few years back. hoping to pick up an Amphicar and a '69 Dodge Dart GTS 440 in the near future, they will also be available. there are also (5) A-H 100-4's could be had that I'll be taking pix of that trip. I think there are lots of us on the list that aren't just Datsun folks, we're CAR junkies :-) and boats, motorhomes, airplanes... Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 09:29:39 2008 From: Tim To: chalsted Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 7:28:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] advertising non-roadsters on the list Hey now. I was making a wise crack. I certainly didn't want to start any controversy or flaming. Not that you did Craig!!!!! Now I am sure I will get out of line remarks/comments from the "too chicken s**t to sign his name" person out there who likes to stir stuff up. Hating this Monday more than most. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- chalsted wrote: ============= does that mean I shouldn't tell anyone on the list about the nice Volvo 122s Amazon or the GMC Eleganza motorhome I have available? ;-) had a nice run home in the 69 2000 I picked up in Kalamazoo a week ago, got to visit Lee Ehinger and Paul Kort on the way home as well as the Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum :-) they had a '48 Lincoln Continental Coupe in the collection too, a fellow list member picked one of those up off me a few years back. hoping to pick up an Amphicar and a '69 Dodge Dart GTS 440 in the near future, they will also be available. there are also (5) A-H 100-4's could be had that I'll be taking pix of that trip. I think there are lots of us on the list that aren't just Datsun folks, we're CAR junkies :-) and boats, motorhomes, airplanes... Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 10:19:35 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:18:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid 6-inliner is selling ebay item #230244001764 for the second time. I won this item a while back and never received it. Because I paid with a money order (seller does not take paypal) ebay would not do any thing for me. Seller claimed he insured it and sent it but did not produce insurance paper work as I requested. Tell your friends to avoid this guy and don't make the same mistake I did. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 11:19:00 2008 From: David R. Conrad To: Tim Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:09:08 -1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Tim: I note the seller has 100% positive feedback with numerous 'glowing' comments. Why is your negative experience not reflected? I presume he refunded your money order payment, but why was it necessary for him to re-list it rather than ship it to you. Curious... Dave On Monday, April 21, 2008, at 05:18 AM, Tim wrote: > 6-inliner is selling ebay item #230244001764 for the second time. I > won this item a while back and never received it. Because I paid with > a money order (seller does not take paypal) ebay would not do any > thing for me. Seller claimed he insured it and sent it but did not > produce insurance paper work as I requested. > > Tell your friends to avoid this guy and don't make the same mistake I > did. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 11:33:31 2008 From: alp To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:26:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid now he wants money order only because he knows that ebay will do nothing about it. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 11:35:14 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:33:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Friday Caravans set (at least I think so) Hey Folks! I hope everyone in the East is looking forward to the Mitty as we are out here in the West are or Solvang! The week is here at last! We took the car out for a nice long drive this last weekend and it is ready to go. So now comes the fun part - getting together with everyone else. On Friday, the San Diego area folks are meeting up down there and heading up I-5. That should be one nice morning drive! I will arrive at the Nordstrom's parking lot at the Irvine Spectrum at 10:30 AM and will hang out until 11:00 AM or so. I have not heard from anyone saying they will meet me there, but I figure I can just head to the valley and meet everyone at the Woodlake bowl if no one stops by. So from the South: Take I-5 North to I-405 N. Take the first exit you can on I-405 North which is Irvine Center Drive. (It is actually on the interchange between I-5 and I-405) Turn right at the light (Enterprise) and then look for roadsters on your left. >From the North Take I-405 South to Irvine Center Drive Turn left and go over the freeway Turn right at the light (Enterprise) and keep going. Look for roadsters! If you are closer to the Valley ant want to meet at the Woodlake bowl in Woodland Hills, I figure to get there around 12:30 PM, give or take traffic. Hopefully there will be a nice crowd of us heading up from San Diego/Orange County. Take I-5/I-405 to 101 N. Exit Woodlake Blvd. Turn right and thn right on Ventura Blvd. and look for roadsters! These times make sense to me, but I am sure there is wiggle room either way for those who want it. Hope to see everyone there! Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653 A ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 11:49:14 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: akarcioglu@telus.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:41:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Guys, This seller has 100% positive feedback. I buy and sell alot on ebay and protecting your score is important. YES there is ROT out there and a big problem with the feedback forum is that if you are screwed and leave negative than expect RETALIATORY negative. So some people won't bother to leave negative. This guy doesn't look like a crook though. Just my thoughts Dave M -----Original Message----- From: alp To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:26 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid now he wants money order only because he knows that ebay will do nothing about it. You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 12:29:28 2008 From: Tim To: "David R. Conrad" , davesmbox@aol.com Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:16:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid No, he didn't refund my money. He claims he sent it-as I stated. But he didn't produce the insurance paper work for me that he said he had. I didn't leave negative feedback because, as mentioned by another lister--Dave I believe--I would have received retaliatory negative feedback. I have family in Northern CA, very close friends in San Francisco, and get home quite often. I will pay him a visit eventually, with the Sherrif in tow, and get my money back. NO worries. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "David R. Conrad" wrote: ============= Tim: I note the seller has 100% positive feedback with numerous 'glowing' comments. Why is your negative experience not reflected? I presume he refunded your money order payment, but why was it necessary for him to re-list it rather than ship it to you. Curious... Dave On Monday, April 21, 2008, at 05:18 AM, Tim wrote: > 6-inliner is selling ebay item #230244001764 for the second time. I > won this item a while back and never received it. Because I paid with > a money order (seller does not take paypal) ebay would not do any > thing for me. Seller claimed he insured it and sent it but did not > produce insurance paper work as I requested. > > Tell your friends to avoid this guy and don't make the same mistake I > did. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 12:50:03 2008 From: jrdmf@aol.com To: konadave1@hawaii.rr.com, tputland@charter.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:40:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Let's face it.... The whole "Feedback" system is pretty lame at best. Sure, you can plunk the guy with negative feedback and then sit back and wait for?his retaliatory response? Then cross your fingers and hope that anybody who reads it in the future is capable of seperating fact from fiction. Don't know for a fact that this guy is a scammer but the one's who are scammers know how to play the system and use the threat of retaliatory feeback to keep the ethical users from reporting the truth. Until ebay comes up with a better?plan (which will only happen?once the current plan starts affecting their bottom line) the best thing we can do is?to use avenues such as this?forum?to keep each other informed?regarding?who the latest scammers are.? Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca ? -----Original Message----- From: David R. Conrad To: Tim Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 9:09 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Tim: I note the seller has 100% positive feedback with numerous 'glowing' comments. Why is your negative experience not reflected? I presume he refunded your money order payment, but why was it necessary for him to re-list it rather than ship it to you. Curious... Dave On Monday, April 21, 2008, at 05:18 AM, Tim wrote: > 6-inliner is selling ebay item #230244001764 for the second time. I > won this item a while back and never received it. Because I paid with > a money order (seller does not take paypal) ebay would not do any > thing for me. Seller claimed he insured it and sent it but did not > produce insurance paper work as I requested. > > Tell your friends to avoid this guy and don't make the same mistake I > did. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as jrdmf@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 13:21:57 2008 From: "Kerry and Kae Zariwny" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:08:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Hi All This is why I only bid on items that I can pay by paypal or credit card. Paying by Western Family Union or money order is the same as sending cash, you have no recourse if the transaction goes sour. There have been several times that Paypal has refunded my money because a seller has not performed as required. As a seller, I only accept Paypal so I always have proof that the buyer paid (or did not pay). Sure Paypal has fees but it is less than the amount I would be spending on aspirin to cover any headaches something like this causes :-) Kerry Z 1968 1600 Portland, Oregon ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 13:38:36 2008 From: "Kerry and Kae Zariwny" To: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:32:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid That is actually Western Union. (Sorry about that. I getting hungry so my mind wanders towards food :-) Kerry Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry and Kae Zariwny" Cc: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid > Hi All > This is why I only bid on items that I can pay by paypal or credit card. > Paying by Western Family Union or money order is the same as sending cash, > you have no recourse if the transaction goes sour. There have been several > times that Paypal has refunded my money because a seller has not performed > as required. As a seller, I only accept Paypal so I always have proof that > the buyer paid (or did not pay). Sure Paypal has fees but it is less than > the amount I would be spending on aspirin to cover any headaches something > like this causes > :-) > > Kerry Z > 1968 1600 > Portland, Oregon > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zariwny100@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 14:24:56 2008 From: Tim To: Kerry and Kae Zariwny Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:59:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Yep. Totally my bad. I missed that he doesn't take paypal. It won't happen again. That is for sure! Fool me once shame on me. Fool me twice I'll bloody kill you!! lol Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Kerry and Kae Zariwny wrote: ============= Hi All This is why I only bid on items that I can pay by paypal or credit card. Paying by Western Family Union or money order is the same as sending cash, you have no recourse if the transaction goes sour. There have been several times that Paypal has refunded my money because a seller has not performed as required. As a seller, I only accept Paypal so I always have proof that the buyer paid (or did not pay). Sure Paypal has fees but it is less than the amount I would be spending on aspirin to cover any headaches something like this causes :-) Kerry Z 1968 1600 Portland, Oregon ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 14:57:26 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: tputland@charter.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:39:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Isn't the 61 prototype (actually a 67) that was driven by Elvis on the way to the UFO back on the market? Tim is right don't be fooled twice. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: Kerry and Kae Zariwny Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 2:59 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Yep. Totally my bad. I missed that he doesn't take paypal. It won't happen again. That is for sure! Fool me once shame on me. Fool me twice I'll bloody kill you!! lol Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Kerry and Kae Zariwny wrote: ============= Hi All This is why I only bid on items that I can pay by paypal or credit card. Paying by Western Family Union or money order is the same as sending cash, you have no recourse if the transaction goes sour. There have been several times that Paypal has refunded my money because a seller has not performed as required. As a seller, I only accept Paypal so I always have proof that the buyer paid (or did not pay). Sure Paypal has fees but it is less than the amount I would be spending on aspirin to cover any headaches something like this causes :-) Kerry Z 1968 1600 Portland, Oregon ________________________________________ You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 14:57:47 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: zariwny100@comcast.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:41:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid The problem with Oaypal is that if the buyer decides he doesn't like your item he/she can contact Paypal and they will reverse charges (chargeback) with no questions asked. So Paypal is good for buyers but can be a problem for sellers. For sellers to take money orders is a risk because they can be fake, go thru and then you are liable anyway. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Kerry and Kae Zariwny Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:08 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Hi All This is why I only bid on items that I can pay by paypal or credit card. Paying by Western Family Union or money order is the same as sending cash, you have no recourse if the transaction goes sour. There have been several times that Paypal has refunded my money because a seller has not performed as required. As a seller, I only accept Paypal so I always have proof that the buyer paid (or did not pay). Sure Paypal has fees but it is less than the amount I would be spending on aspirin to cover any headaches something like this causes :-) Kerry Z 1968 1600 Portland, Oregon ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 15:11:41 2008 From: "Robbie Harrison" To: "Tim" Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:43:47 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Tim, If you still have the prior auction number (I assume it's on your photocopy of the money order that you plan to show the sheriff), why not send a question asking if it is the same harness you did not receive, and reference the original auction. Ebay is stacked against buyer feedback - the one negative I got was from a guy who sold a car I won to somebody local after the end of the auction - but at least they have separated buyer and seller feedback. I'm much more concerned about feedback on sellers who don't follow through, since the buyer has to pony up before the seller. Just my $.02 Robbie Harrison 68 2000 67 1600 for sale 69 2000 parts car sold this morning [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of imstp_pets_cat1_en.gif] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 15:24:32 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:52:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] advertising non-roadsters on the list ...and there was a collective "We know!" followed by a heavy sigh from the spouses in the background.... -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "chalsted" [snip] I think there are lots of us on the list > that aren't just Datsun folks, we're CAR junkies :-) and boats, motorhomes, > airplanes... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 15:43:52 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:00:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid No, it was driven by Pete Brock. Elvis was driving the Porsche when James Dean was abducted by aliens. Pete "yeah, Monday sucks" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: davesmbox@aol.com > Isn't the 61 prototype (actually a 67) that was driven by Elvis on the way to > the UFO back on the market? Tim is right don't be fooled twice. > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim > To: Kerry and Kae Zariwny > Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 2:59 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid > > > > Yep. Totally my bad. I missed that he doesn't take paypal. > > It won't happen again. That is for sure! > > Fool me once shame on me. Fool me twice I'll bloody kill you!! lol > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Kerry and Kae Zariwny wrote: > > ============= > Hi All > This is why I only bid on items that I can pay by paypal or credit card. > Paying by Western Family Union or money order is the same as sending cash, > you have no recourse if the transaction goes sour. There have been several > times that Paypal has refunded my money because a seller has not performed > as required. As a seller, I only accept Paypal so I always have proof that > the buyer paid (or did not pay). Sure Paypal has fees but it is less than > the amount I would be spending on aspirin to cover any headaches something > like this causes > :-) > > Kerry Z > 1968 1600 > Portland, Oregon > ________________________________________ > You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 19:35:35 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: jrdmf@aol.com, konadave1@hawaii.rr.com, tputland@charter.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:14:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Oh Great, now this guy (Jon Frampton) who proclaims to be an expert at gauges, now is an Ebay expert.? INCREDIBLE! ---- Original Message ---- From: jrdmf@aol.com To: konadave1@hawaii.rr.com; tputland@charter.net Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:40 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Let's face it.... The whole "Feedback" system is pretty lame at best. Sure, you can plunk the guy with negative feedback and then sit back and wait for?his retaliatory response? Then cross your fingers and hope that anybody who reads it in the future is capable of seperating fact from fiction. Don't know for a fact that this guy is a scammer but the one's who are scammers know how to play the system and use the threat of retaliatory feeback to keep the ethical users from reporting the truth. Until ebay comes up with a better?plan (which will only happen?once the current plan starts affecting their bottom line) the best thing we can do is?to use avenues such as this?forum?to keep each other informed?regarding?who the latest scammers are.? Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca ? -----Original Message----- From: David R. Conrad To: Tim Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 9:09 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Tim: I note the seller has 100% positive feedback with numerous 'glowing' comments. Why is your negative experience not reflected? I presume he refunded your money order payment, but why was it necessary for him to re-list it rather than ship it to you. Curious... Dave On Monday, April 21, 2008, at 05:18 AM, Tim wrote: > 6-inliner is selling ebay item #230244001764 for the second time. I > won this item a while back and never received it. Because I paid with > a money order (seller does not take paypal) ebay would not do any > thing for me. Seller claimed he insured it and sent it but did not > produce insurance paper work as I requested. > > Tell your friends to avoid this guy and don't make the same mistake I > did. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as jrdmf@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 00:06:12 2008 From: Peter Jones To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:06:27 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid The best part about ebay Australia is that shortly you can only buy or sell if you use paypal. The only thing that you don't need it list on is a whole car. They are also looking at changing that you can not leave neg feedback unless the resolution processed has been followed. Peter j> To: tputland@charter.net> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:39:10 -0400> From: davesmbox@aol.com> CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid> > Isn't the 61 prototype (actually a 67) that was driven by Elvis on the way to the UFO back on the market? Tim is right don't be fooled twice.> Dave> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Tim > To: Kerry and Kae Zariwny > Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 2:59 pm> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid> > > > Yep. Totally my bad. I missed that he doesn't take paypal. > > It won't happen again. That is for sure! > > Fool me once shame on me. Fool me twice I'll bloody kill you!! lol> > > Tim> Belleville, WI.> '70 SPL AND SRL> Still clueless but always learning> > ---- Kerry and Kae Zariwny wrote: > > =============> Hi All> This is why I only bid on items that I can pay by paypal or credit card. > Paying by Western Family Union or money order is the same as sending cash, > you have no recourse if the transaction goes sour. There have been several > times that Paypal has refunded my money because a seller has not performed > as required. As a seller, I only accept Paypal so I always have proof that > the buyer paid (or did not pay). Sure Paypal has fees but it is less than > the amount I would be spending on aspirin to cover any headaches something > like this causes> :-)> > Kerry Z> 1968 1600> Portland, Oregon > ________________________________________> You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as dato1500@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2E com%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai% 5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 01:14:23 2008 From: alp To: Datsun Roadster group Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:14:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning sent an email to the seller asking him about past dealings with a member in the Roadster club I belonged to. Wanted to know how I could trust his auction when there is some bad feedback about him. Just wanted to stir the shit with the guy and see how he would react. Quote "I SENT HIM HIS DAM HARNESS HE'S A DAM LIRE IT WAS SENT OUT PRIORITY MAIL 3 TO 5 DAYS I ALSO SOLD HIM A BOX FULL OF ROADSTER PARTS & HE BUGED & BUG ABOUT NOT GETTING IT THEN HE SAID HE GOT IT & THAT EVERY THING WAS DAMAGED & I PACAGED IT GOOD THEN HE LEFT BAD FEED BACK THAT IT TOOK A MONTH TO RECIVE & MUCH DAMAGE PACAGES DONT TAKE A MONTH I HAVE PIC'S OF THE HARNESS I SOLD HIM I CAN SEND THEM TO YOU TO PROVE IT & THE RECIPT THAT I SENT IT TO HIM PRIORITY MAIL I EVEN PUT $12.00 OF MY MONEY TO HAVE IT PRIORITY MAIL I DONT STEAL FROM NO ONE THATS BAD LUCK I HAVE SO MANY DAM ROADSTER PARTS I DONT NEED TO STEAL I DONT NEED MONEY THAT BAD THE ONLY REASON IM SELLING THESE PARTS ON EBAY IS BECAUSE I HAVE TO MANY IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY HOUSE & IN MY 3 CARS TRUNKS & A VAN FULL OF PARTS IM TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE PARTS NOT KEEP THEM I DONT STEAL I HAVE SOLD MANY ROADSTER PARTS LOOK AT FEED BACK ABOUT 70 WERE ALL PARTS I SOLD IN GREAT CONDTION NO CRAP" His heart rate jumped a few beats no doubt! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 06:06:40 2008 From: Tim To: alp , Datsun Roadster group Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 4:06:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning Wow. So now he is lying to you as well Alp. Thanks and sorry. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- alp wrote: ============= sent an email to the seller asking him about past dealings with a member in the Roadster club I belonged to. Wanted to know how I could trust his auction when there is some bad feedback about him. Just wanted to stir the shit with the guy and see how he would react. Quote "I SENT HIM HIS DAM HARNESS HE'S A DAM LIRE IT WAS SENT OUT PRIORITY MAIL 3 TO 5 DAYS I ALSO SOLD HIM A BOX FULL OF ROADSTER PARTS & HE BUGED & BUG ABOUT NOT GETTING IT THEN HE SAID HE GOT IT & THAT EVERY THING WAS DAMAGED & I PACAGED IT GOOD THEN HE LEFT BAD FEED BACK THAT IT TOOK A MONTH TO RECIVE & MUCH DAMAGE PACAGES DONT TAKE A MONTH I HAVE PIC'S OF THE HARNESS I SOLD HIM I CAN SEND THEM TO YOU TO PROVE IT & THE RECIPT THAT I SENT IT TO HIM PRIORITY MAIL I EVEN PUT $12.00 OF MY MONEY TO HAVE IT PRIORITY MAIL I DONT STEAL FROM NO ONE THATS BAD LUCK I HAVE SO MANY DAM ROADSTER PARTS I DONT NEED TO STEAL I DONT NEED MONEY THAT BAD THE ONLY REASON IM SELLING THESE PARTS ON EBAY IS BECAUSE I HAVE TO MANY IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY HOUSE & IN MY 3 CARS TRUNKS & A VAN FULL OF PARTS IM TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE PARTS NOT KEEP THEM I DONT STEAL I HAVE SOLD MANY ROADSTER PARTS LOOK AT FEED BACK ABOUT 70 WERE ALL PARTS I SOLD IN GREAT CONDTION NO CRAP" His heart rate jumped a few beats no doubt! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 06:35:06 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning I dunno. Hes seams lyke a berry gud kinda dude. Betcha hes got pleantya good kars lyke all cross his frunt yard. --- On Tue, 4/22/08, Tim wrote: From: Tim Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning To: "alp" , "Datsun Roadster group" Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 7:06 AM Wow. So now he is lying to you as well Alp. Thanks and sorry. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- alp wrote: ============= sent an email to the seller asking him about past dealings with a member in the Roadster club I belonged to. Wanted to know how I could trust his auction when there is some bad feedback about him. Just wanted to stir the shit with the guy and see how he would react. Quote "I SENT HIM HIS DAM HARNESS HE'S A DAM LIRE IT WAS SENT OUT PRIORITY MAIL 3 TO 5 DAYS I ALSO SOLD HIM A BOX FULL OF ROADSTER PARTS & HE BUGED & BUG ABOUT NOT GETTING IT THEN HE SAID HE GOT IT & THAT EVERY THING WAS DAMAGED & I PACAGED IT GOOD THEN HE LEFT BAD FEED BACK THAT IT TOOK A MONTH TO RECIVE & MUCH DAMAGE PACAGES DONT TAKE A MONTH I HAVE PIC'S OF THE HARNESS I SOLD HIM I CAN SEND THEM TO YOU TO PROVE IT & THE RECIPT THAT I SENT IT TO HIM PRIORITY MAIL I EVEN PUT $12.00 OF MY MONEY TO HAVE IT PRIORITY MAIL I DONT STEAL FROM NO ONE THATS BAD LUCK I HAVE SO MANY DAM ROADSTER PARTS I DONT NEED TO STEAL I DONT NEED MONEY THAT BAD THE ONLY REASON IM SELLING THESE PARTS ON EBAY IS BECAUSE I HAVE TO MANY IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY HOUSE & IN MY 3 CARS TRUNKS & A VAN FULL OF PARTS IM TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE PARTS NOT KEEP THEM I DONT STEAL I HAVE SOLD MANY ROADSTER PARTS LOOK AT FEED BACK ABOUT 70 WERE ALL PARTS I SOLD IN GREAT CONDTION NO CRAP" His heart rate jumped a few beats no doubt! You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 06:35:28 2008 From: Pamela To: Tim , alp , Datsun Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:35:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning Interesting. Shouting at full volume and doesn't seem to know how to utilize a spell check program. Buyer Beware! Off to work for me. Pam Bauman 67 Roadster- still in pieces Westminster, CA -----Original Message----- >From: Tim >Sent: Apr 22, 2008 4:06 AM >To: alp , Datsun Roadster group >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning > >Wow. So now he is lying to you as well Alp. > >Thanks and sorry. > >Tim >Belleville, WI. >'70 SPL AND SRL >Still clueless but always learning > >---- alp wrote: > >============= >sent an email to the seller asking him about past dealings with a member in the >Roadster club I belonged to. Wanted to know how I could trust his auction when >there is some bad feedback about him. Just wanted to stir the shit with the guy >and see how he would react. > >Quote "I SENT HIM HIS DAM HARNESS HE'S A DAM LIRE IT WAS SENT OUT PRIORITY MAIL >3 TO 5 DAYS I ALSO SOLD HIM A BOX FULL OF ROADSTER PARTS & HE BUGED & BUG ABOUT >NOT GETTING IT THEN HE SAID HE GOT IT & THAT EVERY THING WAS DAMAGED & I PACAGED >IT GOOD THEN HE LEFT BAD FEED BACK THAT IT TOOK A MONTH TO RECIVE & MUCH DAMAGE >PACAGES DONT TAKE A MONTH I HAVE PIC'S OF THE HARNESS I SOLD HIM I CAN SEND THEM >TO YOU TO PROVE IT & THE RECIPT THAT I SENT IT TO HIM PRIORITY MAIL I EVEN PUT >$12.00 OF MY MONEY TO HAVE IT PRIORITY MAIL I DONT STEAL FROM NO ONE THATS BAD >LUCK I HAVE SO MANY DAM ROADSTER PARTS I DONT NEED TO STEAL I DONT NEED MONEY >THAT BAD THE ONLY REASON IM SELLING THESE PARTS ON EBAY IS BECAUSE I HAVE TO >MANY IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY HOUSE & IN MY 3 CARS TRUNKS & A VAN FULL OF PARTS IM >TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE PARTS NOT KEEP THEM I DONT STEAL I HAVE SOLD MANY >ROADSTER PARTS LOOK AT FEED BACK ABOUT 70 WERE ALL PARTS I SOLD IN GREAT >CONDTION NO CRAP" > >His heart rate jumped a few beats no doubt! >________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 06:53:53 2008 From: Scott Sheeler To: alp , Datsun Roadster group Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:54:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning Try reading that sentence (paragraph) in one breath. The "." must be broken on his keyboard..............................Scott Sheelerhttp://thedatsunroadsterbook.com/> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:14:50 -0700> From: akarcioglu@telus.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning> > sent an email to the seller asking him about past dealings with a member in the> Roadster club I belonged to. Wanted to know how I could trust his auction when> there is some bad feedback about him. Just wanted to stir the shit with the guy> and see how he would react.> > Quote "I SENT HIM HIS DAM HARNESS HE'S A DAM LIRE IT WAS SENT OUT PRIORITY MAIL> 3 TO 5 DAYS I ALSO SOLD HIM A BOX FULL OF ROADSTER PARTS & HE BUGED & BUG ABOUT> NOT GETTING IT THEN HE SAID HE GOT IT & THAT EVERY THING WAS DAMAGED & I PACAGED> IT GOOD THEN HE LEFT BAD FEED BACK THAT IT TOOK A MONTH TO RECIVE & MUCH DAMAGE> PACAGES DONT TAKE A MONTH I HAVE PIC'S OF THE HARNESS I SOLD HIM I CAN SEND THEM> TO YOU TO PROVE IT & THE RECIPT THAT I SENT IT TO HIM PRIORITY MAIL I EVEN PUT> $12.00 OF MY MONEY TO HAVE IT PRIORITY MAIL I DONT STEAL FROM NO ONE THATS BAD> LUCK I HAVE SO MANY DAM ROADSTER PARTS I DONT NEED TO STEAL I DONT NEED MONEY> THAT BAD THE ONLY REASON IM SELLING THESE PARTS ON EBAY IS BECAUSE I HAVE TO> MANY IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY HOUSE & IN MY 3 CARS TRUNKS & A VAN FULL OF PARTS IM> TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE PARTS NOT KEEP THEM I DONT STEAL I HAVE SOLD MANY> ROADSTER PARTS LOOK AT FEED BACK ABOUT 70 WERE ALL PARTS I SOLD IN GREAT> CONDTION NO CRAP"> > His heart rate jumped a few beats no doubt!> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as poontang188@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 07:01:11 2008 From: Tim To: gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com, Datsun roadster Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 5:01:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning hahahahahaah....nice. Thanks for the laugh. Great way to start my day! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Jim Gammon wrote: ============= ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 07:19:52 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Roadster List" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:20:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravan meeting in Woodland Hills Late last night I spoke to the San Diego group, On Friday they will be stopping in Irvine to pick up those from Orange County to join in their caravan and then stopping in Woodland Hills to pick those that wish to jump in at that point. They will be stopping at the Woodlake Bowl (Bowling Alley) at 12:00-noon. No time for meet and greeting (do that in Solvang), they pull in the parking lot and the caravan is gone. I will be there with a few others at 11:00am if anyone wishes to join in this caravan here is the link for directions to tha Bowling Alley: http://yellowpages.aol.com/business/ca/agoura-hills/woodlake-bowl/0-100319275/ See you all there, Chris -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 07:26:58 2008 From: Tim To: alp , Datsun Roadster group Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 5:27:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning How does that saying go....? Me thinks thou doth protest too much! Or something like that any way. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 07:40:52 2008 From: "Richard Schnoor" To: alp Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:41:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning I'm not sure I would trust anybody that makes so many spelling & grammar errors. What is he in the 2nd grade? On 4/22/08, alp wrote: > > sent an email to the seller asking him about past dealings with a member > in the > Roadster club I belonged to. Wanted to know how I could trust his auction > when > there is some bad feedback about him. Just wanted to stir the shit with > the guy > and see how he would react. > > Quote "I SENT HIM HIS DAM HARNESS HE'S A DAM LIRE IT WAS SENT OUT PRIORITY > MAIL > 3 TO 5 DAYS I ALSO SOLD HIM A BOX FULL OF ROADSTER PARTS & HE BUGED & BUG > ABOUT > NOT GETTING IT THEN HE SAID HE GOT IT & THAT EVERY THING WAS DAMAGED & I > PACAGED > IT GOOD THEN HE LEFT BAD FEED BACK THAT IT TOOK A MONTH TO RECIVE & MUCH > DAMAGE > PACAGES DONT TAKE A MONTH I HAVE PIC'S OF THE HARNESS I SOLD HIM I CAN > SEND THEM > TO YOU TO PROVE IT & THE RECIPT THAT I SENT IT TO HIM PRIORITY MAIL I EVEN > PUT > $12.00 OF MY MONEY TO HAVE IT PRIORITY MAIL I DONT STEAL FROM NO ONE THATS > BAD > LUCK I HAVE SO MANY DAM ROADSTER PARTS I DONT NEED TO STEAL I DONT NEED > MONEY > THAT BAD THE ONLY REASON IM SELLING THESE PARTS ON EBAY IS BECAUSE I HAVE > TO > MANY IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY HOUSE & IN MY 3 CARS TRUNKS & A VAN FULL OF > PARTS IM > TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE PARTS NOT KEEP THEM I DONT STEAL I HAVE SOLD > MANY > ROADSTER PARTS LOOK AT FEED BACK ABOUT 70 WERE ALL PARTS I SOLD IN GREAT > CONDTION NO CRAP" > > His heart rate jumped a few beats no doubt! > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as machworx@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Richard Schnoor P.E. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 08:58:18 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning Youse ensulting my grammer? She be a gud womon, do I gotta beat sum cents inta youse? Gee, my yahoo is free and has free spellcheck. What is with this guy? JimG --- On Tue, 4/22/08, Richard Schnoor wrote: From: Richard Schnoor Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning To: "alp" Cc: "Datsun Roadster group" Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 8:41 AM I'm not sure I would trust anybody that makes so many spelling & grammar errors. What is he in the 2nd grade? On 4/22/08, alp wrote: > > sent an email to the seller asking him about past dealings with a member > in the > Roadster club I belonged to. Wanted to know how I could trust his auction > when > there is some bad feedback about him. Just wanted to stir the shit with > the guy > and see how he would react. > > Quote "I SENT HIM HIS DAM HARNESS HE'S A DAM LIRE IT WAS SENT OUT PRIORITY > MAIL > 3 TO 5 DAYS I ALSO SOLD HIM A BOX FULL OF ROADSTER PARTS & HE BUGED & BUG > ABOUT > NOT GETTING IT THEN HE SAID HE GOT IT & THAT EVERY THING WAS DAMAGED & I > PACAGED > IT GOOD THEN HE LEFT BAD FEED BACK THAT IT TOOK A MONTH TO RECIVE & MUCH > DAMAGE > PACAGES DONT TAKE A MONTH I HAVE PIC'S OF THE HARNESS I SOLD HIM I CAN > SEND THEM > TO YOU TO PROVE IT & THE RECIPT THAT I SENT IT TO HIM PRIORITY MAIL I EVEN > PUT > $12.00 OF MY MONEY TO HAVE IT PRIORITY MAIL I DONT STEAL FROM NO ONE THATS > BAD > LUCK I HAVE SO MANY DAM ROADSTER PARTS I DONT NEED TO STEAL I DONT NEED > MONEY > THAT BAD THE ONLY REASON IM SELLING THESE PARTS ON EBAY IS BECAUSE I HAVE > TO > MANY IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY HOUSE & IN MY 3 CARS TRUNKS & A VAN FULL OF > PARTS IM > TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE PARTS NOT KEEP THEM I DONT STEAL I HAVE SOLD > MANY > ROADSTER PARTS LOOK AT FEED BACK ABOUT 70 WERE ALL PARTS I SOLD IN GREAT > CONDTION NO CRAP" > > His heart rate jumped a few beats no doubt! > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as machworx@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Richard Schnoor P.E. You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 10:13:17 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:13:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid I sent him an email..2 queries: paypal, will he insure pkg. if I pay extra shipping. No to both. Long explanation. Those are my terms for any purchase or I pass. I don't want to start an argument. Tim, I know you came up on the short end of the deal, but all the people who left positive feed back bought Datsun roadster parts and some of the names look like list members. I am not saying you are right or wrong or this guy is good or bad, I have never done business with him. I think your fight is with the Post Office. I spent 11 weeks tracking down a package that my neighbor had signed for and forgot to give me. Anybody can sign your name and the Post Office considers that a done deal. Get the priority mail numbers and track it yourself, it was signed for. Righteous anger, properly directed can be a lot of fun. Gloria Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 11:06:23 2008 From: john wightman To: Richard Schnoor Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:03:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning Yes, that's exactly how I feel about the president... :-) JW On 22-Apr-08, at 5:41 AM, Richard Schnoor wrote: > I'm not sure I would trust anybody that makes so many spelling & > grammar > errors. What is he in the 2nd grade? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 11:12:27 2008 From: alp To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:12:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid I am fighting now with UPS because they left twp sets of brand new Revolution wheels on my back steps for some to grab! It has been close to 3 months and nothing yet. Alp ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 11:17:14 2008 From: Perry Smith To: john wightman , Richard Schnoor Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning For those of us who voted for him... well, er - you're right! Let's all just patiently count down the days and wait for the next buffoon to take charge. Roadster content: Can't get the valve springs compressed since last year (lazy) when I slipped the timing chain and bent the four intake valves! I have a new set of gears, chains, etc. but need some courage to put them back tegother before the REAL Spring comes to the midwest and I can't get the top down on my Mazda 6 without a sawzall! Perry Smith '69 2000 ----- Original Message ---- From: john wightman To: Richard Schnoor Cc: Datsun Roadster group Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:03:58 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning Yes, that's exactly how I feel about the president... :-) JW On 22-Apr-08, at 5:41 AM, Richard Schnoor wrote: > I'm not sure I would trust anybody that makes so many spelling & > grammar > errors. What is he in the 2nd grade? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as tpsmithstl@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 11:26:35 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:26:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts OK KNOW THAT WE HAVE COMPLETELY TRASHED THE EBAY SYSTEM. I need some painting thoughts. My 1600 is tired (PAINT) got the rust bubbles in a bunch of spots. I am rebuilding 2 other cars a Saab Sonett and still trying to build a new 70 Solex 2000. Heres the catch. Broke my leg. Not working . Lots of time. (Broke it pretty good too) I want the 1600 to look good but between the Sonett and 2000 (and being out of work) don't want to pour money into it. Paint to match just to touch up is $100.With me buying the paint and spraying it myself.Painted my TR4A won't shoot a whole car again. If I pull the trim and bumpers,tow the car. Sand and fix the rust. Sand 400 grit to dewax.HOW BAD IS THE $500 MAACO paint job. I won't let them prep it,that's the money. Is it that bad for a few years? I'll redo when the other projects are done. Just some thoughts? Thanks, Dave ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 11:34:26 2008 From: Tim To: John Klingman , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 9:34:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Ah yes. Great thinking. However, there was no tracking number given by the seller and no signature required on the package. I talked to the post office--I live in a town of 2000 people. Earnie, my post man, did not deliver a box that size, weight, and from California. But thanks for the suggestions!! Tim ---- John Klingman wrote: ============= I sent him an email..2 queries: paypal, will he insure pkg. if I pay extra shipping. No to both. Long explanation. Those are my terms for any purchase or I pass. I don't want to start an argument. Tim, I know you came up on the short end of the deal, but all the people who left positive feed back bought Datsun roadster parts and some of the names look like list members. I am not saying you are right or wrong or this guy is good or bad, I have never done business with him. I think your fight is with the Post Office. I spent 11 weeks tracking down a package that my neighbor had signed for and forgot to give me. Anybody can sign your name and the Post Office considers that a done deal. Get the priority mail numbers and track it yourself, it was signed for. Righteous anger, properly directed can be a lot of fun. Gloria Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 11:38:55 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: Davesmbox@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:39:08 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts In a message dated 4/22/2008 9:27:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, davesmbox@aol.com writes: HOW BAD IS THE $500 MAACO paint job. I won't let them prep it,that's the money. Is it that bad for a few years? If you do the prep work it's not too bad. That's what a friend and I did to his 66. Removed all the chrome, lights, windshield, did the body work, did most of the masking, loaded it onto the trailer and hauled it down. We used One-Day Paint and Body. They all shoot pretty much the same paint and are fairly good at it. After the paint cures you can wet sand it to get the orange peel out and it will look really nice. It won't last as long as top of the line paint but it should be good for a number of years with some care. keith **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 11:51:38 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "Autox \(E-mail\)" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:51:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts FYI don't know about MAACO, but 1day P&B will not warranty the paint if you do your own prep work. The mission viejo shop did do a pretty go job though. Steve 70' 1600 garage queen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts > > >> In a message dated 4/22/2008 9:27:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> davesmbox@aol.com writes: >> >> HOW BAD IS THE $500 MAACO paint job. I won't let them prep it,that's the >> money. Is it that bad for a few years? >> >> >> >> If you do the prep work it's not too bad. That's what a friend and I did >> to >> his 66. Removed all the chrome, lights, windshield, did the body work, >> did >> most of the masking, loaded it onto the trailer and hauled it down. We >> used >> One-Day Paint and Body. They all shoot pretty much the same paint and >> are fairly >> good at it. After the paint cures you can wet sand it to get the orange >> peel >> out and it will look really nice. It won't last as long as top of the >> line >> paint but it should be good for a number of years with some care. >> >> keith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 11:52:40 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:52:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns-July4th-Bristol VT Surprise!! There will be a Datsun gathering July 3,4,5 in Bristol VT. Wonderful area, flat roads and vertical roads, go where your brakes dare. Last Oct we traveled a couple roads that looked the Yankee cousins to the Tail of the Dragon. White Knuckle. Super drives along Lake Champlain on the level. Roadster heaven. All this and a Norman Rockwell New England 4th of July parade and celebration. The weekend will center around the Dream House country inn-owned by George Landis and wife Susan Small. We got together last fall and exchanged ideas for a gathering and Susan worked up a great agenda. If you are interested email Susan at innkeeper@dreamhousecountryinn.com and she will send you the information. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 12:13:55 2008 From: "Eric Gillis" To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:14:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] painting thoughts I don't know about MAACO (other than Pete Rose used to be a spokesperson) but I have used Earl Schieb (same diff, ain't it?) and had wonderful results with my own prep work. I didn't tape off, instead had them do that, and they were even able to mask the celica outlined lettering on the rear deck of the car I had painted. The result was great given it only cost $400 (2003 prices) and that included jambs and underhood. I am not sure how a company would be able to tell if you did your own prep work... If you worked on the body of the car and brought it to them not saying anything (lie of omission, I acknowledge) how is the painting company supposed to know who or when the car was 'prepped?" Perhaps the car was purchased that way and the new owner just wanted to finish the job and did nothing of the prep work themselves. Most of the painters in these operations are very good, but are limited by time and the company's bottom line, so the limiting factor is prep work, many companies welcome this, however I do understand when some groups won't warantee work not performed by the company. Suggestion: Bring in at least 2 $20 bills, one for the painter, and one for the prep person. Maybe a Starbucks or a box of doughnuts when you drop the car off. Tips to personnel and schwag do count for something these days when most are trying to save a buck at any costs, pun intended. It never hurts to grease the palms a bit for a job well done. You will be happy with a fresh paint job, even if it 'goes away' in 5 years or so... Think of what it may look like without the paintjob in 5 years... Solvang awaits! Eric G ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 12:16:05 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "Eric Hankinson" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:16:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts Unfortunately no. My roadster has been sitting in the garage since the mini-iron bottom last year. I got a spare tranny to fix the "stuck in 4th problem". But I haven't made time to actually borrow a cherry picker, clear out room in the garage and make the swap. Between my 16 month old and my newfound interest in mountain biking, the roadster has been sitting collecting dust. Those brand new falken azenis tires only have 200 miles on them! I need to: 1) clean up my workspace. 2) disconnect the hoses and wiring from the engine/tranny 3) borrow a cherry picker and make the swap over a weekend. 4) reconnect everything. unfortunately #1 is the hardest part. Steve 70' 1600 not getting any sun. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Hankinson" To: "'Stephen Wan'" Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:57 AM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts > Did you paint yours?! Photos? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 12:36:54 2008 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: "Stephen Wan" , "Autox \(E-mail\)" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:37:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts You can get Maaco do just about whatever you are willing to pay for. The better you want the car, the more expensive it is going to be. Assuming you do not have major body work to take care of, they have everything pretty much wrapped up in to packages - like what paint you want, trim removal, different levels of prep and masking, color sanding & buffing. I had a BMW painted there and we basically went for the whole enchilada, the best of everything they had to offer. The car also required a couple of ding repairs, and the paint on the hood, roof and trunk had to be stripped to the metal. Ended up with a very nice, smooth black paint job (not concourse or anything) for around $4K. A quote from a "real" body shop was in the $6-7K range. I think I would have ended up with about the same quality of appearance, time will tell how well it will hold up. Brian -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Wan Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:52 AM To: Autox (E-mail) Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts FYI don't know about MAACO, but 1day P&B will not warranty the paint if you do your own prep work. The mission viejo shop did do a pretty go job though. Steve 70' 1600 garage queen ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 13:07:28 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Brian St. Jacques" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:07:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts The thing that bugs me about Maaco and One-Day Paint & Body is that you have to use their paint/colors. If you want the original color on a car and they do not have it, they will not do the job if you supply the paint. i tried to get them to do it and it was a big NO WAY! On 4/22/08, Brian St. Jacques wrote: > > You can get Maaco do just about whatever you are willing to pay for. The > better you want the car, the more expensive it is going to be. Assuming > you do not have major body work to take care of, they have everything > pretty much wrapped up in to packages - like what paint you want, trim > removal, different levels of prep and masking, color sanding & buffing. > I had a BMW painted there and we basically went for the whole enchilada, > the best of everything they had to offer. The car also required a couple > of ding repairs, and the paint on the hood, roof and trunk had to be > stripped to the metal. Ended up with a very nice, smooth black paint > job (not concourse or anything) for around $4K. A quote from a "real" > body shop was in the $6-7K range. I think I would have ended up with > about the same quality of appearance, time will tell how well it will > hold up. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques > =atrua.com@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Stephen Wan > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:52 AM > To: Autox (E-mail) > Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts > > FYI don't know about MAACO, but 1day P&B will not warranty the paint if > you do your own prep work. > The mission viejo shop did do a pretty go job though. > > Steve > 70' 1600 garage queen > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 13:18:14 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Eric Gillis" , Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:27:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] painting thoughts I am probably going to use Earl Shieb in Gresham, Oregon. The last time I was in there the manager was surprised to find herself there after 25 years of painting custom show cars. She will mix paint from their standard paint colors to my specs and give me the paint not used for touchup purposes. And if I do most of the ding prep work and remove most of the unnecessary items she will paint my car for much less than most other options. If I want special work the cost will be less too. The suggestion of a 20 for each painter and maybe a few calories in the form of donuts is a good one. As a towncar driver I can tell you I know where those 20's, 50's, and even 100's come from now and then. They collect in the back of my wallet to pay for my trips to Shasta, and most of the parts Mr. Hyde needs for day to day upkeep. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Eric Gillis Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:14 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] painting thoughts I don't know about MAACO (other than Pete Rose used to be a spokesperson) but I have used Earl Schieb (same diff, ain't it?) and had wonderful results with my own prep work. I didn't tape off, instead had them do that, and they were even able to mask the celica outlined lettering on the rear deck of the car I had painted. The result was great given it only cost $400 (2003 prices) and that included jambs and underhood. I am not sure how a company would be able to tell if you did your own prep work... If you worked on the body of the car and brought it to them not saying anything (lie of omission, I acknowledge) how is the painting company supposed to know who or when the car was 'prepped?" Perhaps the car was purchased that way and the new owner just wanted to finish the job and did nothing of the prep work themselves. Most of the painters in these operations are very good, but are limited by time and the company's bottom line, so the limiting factor is prep work, many companies welcome this, however I do understand when some groups won't warantee work not performed by the company. Suggestion: Bring in at least 2 $20 bills, one for the painter, and one for the prep person. Maybe a Starbucks or a box of doughnuts when you drop the car off. Tips to personnel and schwag do count for something these days when most are trying to save a buck at any costs, pun intended. It never hurts to grease the palms a bit for a job well done. You will be happy with a fresh paint job, even if it 'goes away' in 5 years or so... Think of what it may look like without the paintjob in 5 years... Solvang awaits! Eric G You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 13:23:09 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "Chris & Christy Breyer" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:23:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts I provided 1 day paint with a manufacturer color code and they mixed that color. It was somewhat close, but it would definitely stand out against the original. It still looks good since I was changing color anyway. Good luck finding touch up paint to match though. Steve 70' 1600 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris & Christy Breyer To: Brian St. Jacques Cc: Stephen Wan ; Autox (E-mail) Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts The thing that bugs me about Maaco and One-Day Paint & Body is that you have to use their paint/colors. If you want the original color on a car and they do not have it, they will not do the job if you supply the paint. i tried to get them to do it and it was a big NO WAY! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 13:57:30 2008 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: "Chris & Christy Breyer" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:57:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts The route I went took a couple weeks. There is no way all of that work could be done in 1 day. In may case (for the most part) "black is black" so I was not worried about color matching. Brian ________________________________ From: Chris & Christy Breyer [mailto:fairlady66@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:08 AM To: Brian St. Jacques Cc: Stephen Wan; Autox (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts The thing that bugs me about Maaco and One-Day Paint & Body is that you have to use their paint/colors. If you want the original color on a car and they do not have it, they will not do the job if you supply the paint. i tried to get them to do it and it was a big NO WAY! On 4/22/08, Brian St. Jacques wrote: You can get Maaco do just about whatever you are willing to pay for. The better you want the car, the more expensive it is going to be. Assuming you do not have major body work to take care of, they have everything pretty much wrapped up in to packages - like what paint you want, trim removal, different levels of prep and masking, color sanding & buffing. I had a BMW painted there and we basically went for the whole enchilada, the best of everything they had to offer. The car also required a couple of ding repairs, and the paint on the hood, roof and trunk had to be stripped to the metal. Ended up with a very nice, smooth black paint job (not concourse or anything) for around $4K. A quote from a "real" body shop was in the $6-7K range. I think I would have ended up with about the same quality of appearance, time will tell how well it will hold up. Brian -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques =atrua.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Wan Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:52 AM To: Autox (E-mail) Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts FYI don't know about MAACO, but 1day P&B will not warranty the paint if you do your own prep work. The mission viejo shop did do a pretty go job though. Steve 70' 1600 garage queen ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 14:35:01 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:35:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning Yeah, but what's even scarier is that he probably votes, too. Pete "insert flammable opinionated political comment here" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Richard Schnoor" > I'm not sure I would trust anybody that makes so many spelling & grammar > errors. What is he in the 2nd grade? > > On 4/22/08, alp wrote: > > > > sent an email to the seller asking him about past dealings with a member > > in the > > Roadster club I belonged to. Wanted to know how I could trust his auction > > when > > there is some bad feedback about him. Just wanted to stir the shit with > > the guy > > and see how he would react. > > > > Quote "I SENT HIM HIS DAM HARNESS HE'S A DAM LIRE IT WAS SENT OUT PRIORITY > > MAIL > > 3 TO 5 DAYS I ALSO SOLD HIM A BOX FULL OF ROADSTER PARTS & HE BUGED & BUG > > ABOUT > > NOT GETTING IT THEN HE SAID HE GOT IT & THAT EVERY THING WAS DAMAGED & I > > PACAGED > > IT GOOD THEN HE LEFT BAD FEED BACK THAT IT TOOK A MONTH TO RECIVE & MUCH > > DAMAGE > > PACAGES DONT TAKE A MONTH I HAVE PIC'S OF THE HARNESS I SOLD HIM I CAN > > SEND THEM > > TO YOU TO PROVE IT & THE RECIPT THAT I SENT IT TO HIM PRIORITY MAIL I EVEN > > PUT > > $12.00 OF MY MONEY TO HAVE IT PRIORITY MAIL I DONT STEAL FROM NO ONE THATS > > BAD > > LUCK I HAVE SO MANY DAM ROADSTER PARTS I DONT NEED TO STEAL I DONT NEED > > MONEY > > THAT BAD THE ONLY REASON IM SELLING THESE PARTS ON EBAY IS BECAUSE I HAVE > > TO > > MANY IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY HOUSE & IN MY 3 CARS TRUNKS & A VAN FULL OF > > PARTS IM > > TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE PARTS NOT KEEP THEM I DONT STEAL I HAVE SOLD > > MANY > > ROADSTER PARTS LOOK AT FEED BACK ABOUT 70 WERE ALL PARTS I SOLD IN GREAT > > CONDTION NO CRAP" > > > > His heart rate jumped a few beats no doubt! > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as machworx@gmail.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > -- > Richard Schnoor P.E. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 15:24:36 2008 From: jrdmf@aol.com To: bstjacques@atrua.com, fairlady66@gmail.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:13:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts You would actually be surprised at how many different?shades of black there are so make sure you get the paint code or at least some touch up paint for that very unfortunate?rainy day. Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: Brian St. Jacques To: Chris & Christy Breyer Cc: Autox (E-mail) Sent: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:57 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts The route I went took a couple weeks. There is no way all of that work could be done in 1 day. In may case (for the most part) "black is black" so I was not worried about color matching. Brian ________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 17:31:29 2008 From: d-solomon@comcast.net To: john wightman , Richard Schnoor Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:29:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning i'm a pretty "died-in-the-wool" conservative, and a staunch supporter of most of the Republican party agenda.... but I have to agree. Not saying ANYTHING about his politics, as I don't intend to mix that with my roadster love... but I have been very dissapointed in how "unrefined", or "un-statesman-like" the president that I voted for is.... :-( so imagine my distress at now looking at casting a vote for McCain. Maybe I'll go fishing instead of voting this time. Dan -------------- Original message -------------- From: john wightman > Yes, that's exactly how I feel about the president... > > :-) > > JW > On 22-Apr-08, at 5:41 AM, Richard Schnoor wrote: > > > I'm not sure I would trust anybody that makes so many spelling & > > grammar > > errors. What is he in the 2nd grade? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 17:59:59 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Eric Gillis" , Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:54:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] painting thoughts Has anyone ever taken a car to the local High School shop class, or trade school for paint? My old neighbor had his IROC Camaro painted Viper blue several years ago by the local High School (only seniors painted), and while it took 2-3 months, it turned out as good as any shop paint job, incredible! The months he didn't have it, was during winter anyways (storage time) so he got to park his winter beater in the garage during the worst winter months. He also had taken out the interior first, and had everything re-upholstered at the same time. Total cost for Base/Clear paint job was $100 over the school price for the paint, (about 70% of list price) and had to take the 2 student painters for a Slurpee and a cruise! Remember these are the painters of the future, and they need to learn/practice. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Gillis" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] painting thoughts >I don't know about MAACO (other than Pete Rose used to be a spokesperson) >but > I have used Earl Schieb (same diff, ain't it?) and had wonderful results > with > my own prep work. I didn't tape off, instead had them do that, and they > were > even able to mask the celica outlined lettering on the rear deck of the > car I > had painted. The result was great given it only cost $400 (2003 prices) > and > that included jambs and underhood. > > I am not sure how a company would be able to tell if you did your own prep > work... If you worked on the body of the car and brought it to them not > saying anything (lie of omission, I acknowledge) how is the painting > company > supposed to know who or when the car was 'prepped?" Perhaps the car was > purchased that way and the new owner just wanted to finish the job and did > nothing of the prep work themselves. Most of the painters in these > operations > are very good, but are limited by time and the company's bottom line, so > the > limiting factor is prep work, many companies welcome this, however I do > understand when some groups won't warantee work not performed by the > company. > > Suggestion: Bring in at least 2 $20 bills, one for the painter, and one > for > the prep person. Maybe a Starbucks or a box of doughnuts when you drop > the > car off. Tips to personnel and schwag do count for something these days > when > most are trying to save a buck at any costs, pun intended. It never hurts > to > grease the palms a bit for a job well done. > > You will be happy with a fresh paint job, even if it 'goes away' in 5 > years or > so... Think of what it may look like without the paintjob in 5 years... > > Solvang awaits! > > Eric G > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 20:16:52 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:15:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid Actually a '67-1/2. Sold for something north of $7,000. Probably worth that, but the paint job was clearly second-rate. (Overspray on everything.) And those pimp whitewalls -- never saw those on a real 311. Hope the buyer knows what he/she bought. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid > Isn't the 61 prototype (actually a 67) that was driven by Elvis on the way > to the UFO back on the market? Tim is right don't be fooled twice. > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim > To: Kerry and Kae Zariwny > Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 2:59 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ebay seller to avoid > > > > Yep. Totally my bad. I missed that he doesn't take paypal. > > It won't happen again. That is for sure! > > Fool me once shame on me. Fool me twice I'll bloody kill you!! lol > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Kerry and Kae Zariwny wrote: > > ============= > Hi All > This is why I only bid on items that I can pay by paypal or credit card. > Paying by Western Family Union or money order is the same as sending cash, > you have no recourse if the transaction goes sour. There have been several > times that Paypal has refunded my money because a seller has not performed > as required. As a seller, I only accept Paypal so I always have proof that > the buyer paid (or did not pay). Sure Paypal has fees but it is less than > the amount I would be spending on aspirin to cover any headaches something > like this causes > :-) > > Kerry Z > 1968 1600 > Portland, Oregon > ________________________________________ > You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 20:21:02 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , "Datsun roadster" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:21:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning Is that "6inliner" we're talking about? Not a real literate guy, is he? Offshore, maybe? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gammon" To: "Datsun roadster" Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning > I dunno. Hes seams lyke a berry gud kinda dude. Betcha hes got > pleantya good kars lyke all cross his frunt yard. > > > --- On Tue, 4/22/08, Tim wrote: > > From: Tim > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning > To: "alp" , "Datsun Roadster group" > > Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 7:06 AM > Wow. So now he is lying to you as well Alp. > > Thanks and sorry. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- alp wrote: > > ============= > sent an email to the seller asking him about past dealings with a member > in the > Roadster club I belonged to. Wanted to know how I could trust his auction > when > there is some bad feedback about him. Just wanted to stir the shit with > the > guy > and see how he would react. > > Quote "I SENT HIM HIS DAM HARNESS HE'S A DAM LIRE IT WAS SENT OUT > PRIORITY MAIL > 3 TO 5 DAYS I ALSO SOLD HIM A BOX FULL OF ROADSTER PARTS & HE BUGED & > BUG ABOUT > NOT GETTING IT THEN HE SAID HE GOT IT & THAT EVERY THING WAS DAMAGED & > I PACAGED > IT GOOD THEN HE LEFT BAD FEED BACK THAT IT TOOK A MONTH TO RECIVE & MUCH > DAMAGE > PACAGES DONT TAKE A MONTH I HAVE PIC'S OF THE HARNESS I SOLD HIM I CAN > SEND > THEM > TO YOU TO PROVE IT & THE RECIPT THAT I SENT IT TO HIM PRIORITY MAIL I EVEN > PUT > $12.00 OF MY MONEY TO HAVE IT PRIORITY MAIL I DONT STEAL FROM NO ONE THATS > BAD > LUCK I HAVE SO MANY DAM ROADSTER PARTS I DONT NEED TO STEAL I DONT NEED > MONEY > THAT BAD THE ONLY REASON IM SELLING THESE PARTS ON EBAY IS BECAUSE I HAVE > TO > MANY IM TALKING ABOUT IN MY HOUSE & IN MY 3 CARS TRUNKS & A VAN FULL OF > PARTS IM > TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE PARTS NOT KEEP THEM I DONT STEAL I HAVE SOLD > MANY > ROADSTER PARTS LOOK AT FEED BACK ABOUT 70 WERE ALL PARTS I SOLD IN GREAT > CONDTION NO CRAP" > > His heart rate jumped a few beats no doubt! > You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 20:32:08 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning I respect the site, so I will not wax political except to say that neither McCain nor Bush are conservatives. Conservative means wanting to spend efficiently, have less government interference and allow freedom as much as possible. The government is there to protect us from threats, not to control our lives or threaten our privacy. Too many people believe the media crap about how conservatives are into government controls, complete crap. The founding fathers were conservatives. I personally feel I am middle of the road, I think we need the government to help those who need help, without creating dependency. But... Jim --- On Tue, 4/22/08, d-solomon@comcast.net wrote: From: d-solomon@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning To: "john wightman" , "Richard Schnoor" Cc: "Datsun Roadster group" Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 6:29 PM i'm a pretty "died-in-the-wool" conservative, and a staunch supporter of most of the Republican party agenda.... but I have to agree. Not saying ANYTHING about his politics, as I don't intend to mix that with my roadster love... but I have been very dissapointed in how "unrefined", or "un-statesman-like" the president that I voted for is.... :-( so imagine my distress at now looking at casting a vote for McCain. Maybe I'll go fishing instead of voting this time. Dan -------------- Original message -------------- From: john wightman > Yes, that's exactly how I feel about the president... > > :-) > > JW > On 22-Apr-08, at 5:41 AM, Richard Schnoor wrote: > > > I'm not sure I would trust anybody that makes so many spelling & > > grammar > > errors. What is he in the 2nd grade? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 20:32:22 2008 From: "dave" To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:31:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts For the perfect $500.00 paint job, I always went on the theory of wait for the $299.00 Ambassador special. Give the manager $100.00 up front. Tell him to take his time and make it nice. Promise another $100.00 when you pick it up if it's a great job. Prep yourself, remove the glass etc. Hope for low humidity. I saw a great review on DupliColor's PaintShop series, sprays like lacquer, $25.00 a qt at Pepboys. Was on Gearz on Speedvision, might be online. Probably what I will use. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: davesmbox@aol.com [mailto:davesmbox@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:27 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts OK KNOW THAT WE HAVE COMPLETELY TRASHED THE EBAY SYSTEM. I need some painting thoughts. My 1600 is tired (PAINT) got the rust bubbles in a bunch of spots. I am rebuilding 2 other cars a Saab Sonett and still trying to build a new 70 Solex 2000. Heres the catch. Broke my leg. Not working . Lots of time. (Broke it pretty good too) I want the 1600 to look good but between the Sonett and 2000 (and being out of work) don't want to pour money into it. Paint to match just to touch up is $100.With me buying the paint and spraying it myself.Painted my TR4A won't shoot a whole car again. If I pull the trim and bumpers,tow the car. Sand and fix the rust. Sand 400 grit to dewax.HOW BAD IS THE $500 MAACO paint job. I won't let them prep it,that's the money. Is it that bad for a few years? I'll redo when the other projects are done. Just some thoughts? Thanks, Dave ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 20:46:36 2008 From: Daniel Solomon To: gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:44:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning ?? serious? you won't "wax political"... and then you do? is that an effort to get the first, and the last word in, in the same post? ;-) Jim Gammon wrote: > I respect the site, so I will not wax political except to say that > neither McCain nor Bush are conservatives. > > Conservative means wanting to spend efficiently, have less government > interference and allow freedom as much as possible. The government is > there to protect us from threats, not to control our lives or threaten > our privacy. > > Too many people believe the media crap about how conservatives are > into government controls, complete crap. The founding fathers were > conservatives. > > I personally feel I am middle of the road, I think we need the > government to help those who need help, without creating dependency. > > But... > > Jim > --- On Tue, 4/22/08, d-solomon@comcast.net > wrote: > > From: d-solomon@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning > To: "john wightman" , "Richard Schnoor" > > Cc: "Datsun Roadster group" > Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 6:29 PM > i'm a pretty "died-in-the-wool" conservative, and a staunch > supporter of most of the Republican party agenda.... > but I have to agree. Not saying ANYTHING about his politics, as I don't > intend to mix that with my roadster love... but I have been very dissapointed > in how "unrefined", or "un-statesman-like" the president > that I voted for is.... > > :-( > > so imagine my distress at now looking at casting a vote for McCain. Maybe > I'll go fishing instead of voting this time. > > Dan > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: john wightman > > >> Yes, that's exactly how I feel about the president... >> >> :-) >> >> JW >> On 22-Apr-08, at 5:41 AM, Richard Schnoor wrote: >> >> >>> I'm not sure I would trust anybody that makes so many spelling >>> > & > >>> grammar >>> errors. What is he in the 2nd grade? >>> >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 20:46:57 2008 From: Daniel Solomon To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:45:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] roadster (and rotisserie) for sale folks: please see my ad located here: http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7694&highlight= sad day. kinda. Dan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 21:27:53 2008 From: "dave" To: , "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:28:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay seller warning Well put, Jim. Dave Brisco "John Birch Society, bunch of liberals" :) -----Original Message----- From: Jim Gammon [mailto:gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com] I respect the site, so I will not wax political except to say that neither McCain nor Bush are conservatives. Conservative means wanting to spend efficiently, have less government interference and allow freedom as much as possible. The government is there to protect us from threats, not to control our lives or threaten our privacy. Too many people believe the media crap about how conservatives are into government controls, complete crap. The founding fathers were conservatives. I personally feel I am middle of the road, I think we need the government to help those who need help, without creating dependency. But... Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 22:03:07 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:03:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts DupliColor is Sherwin Williams paint I beiieve from what I remember when I checked online. Linda -----Original Message----- From: dave To: davesmbox@aol.com Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Sent: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 6:31 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts For the perfect $500.00 paint job, I always went on the theory of wait for the $299.00 Ambassador special. Give the manager $100.00 up front. Tell him to take his time and make it nice. Promise another $100.00 when you pick it up if it's a great job. Prep yourself, remove the glass etc. Hope for low humidity. I saw a great review on DupliColor's PaintShop series, sprays like lacquer, $25.00 a qt at Pepboys. Was on Gearz on Speedvision, might be online. Probably what I will use. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: davesmbox@aol.com [mailto:davesmbox@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:27 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OK Ebay trash and painting thoughts OK KNOW THAT WE HAVE COMPLETELY TRASHED THE EBAY SYSTEM. I need some painting thoughts. My 1600 is tired (PAINT) got the rust bubbles in a bunch of spots. I am rebuilding 2 other cars a Saab Sonett and still trying to build a new 70 Solex 2000. Heres the catch. Broke my leg. Not working . Lots of time. (Broke it pretty good too) I want the 1600 to look good but between the Sonett and 2000 (and being out of work) don't want to pour money into it. Paint to match just to touch up is $100.With me buying the paint and spraying it myself.Painted my TR4A won't shoot a whole car again. If I pull the trim and bumpers,tow the car. Sand and fix the rust. Sand 400 grit to dewax.HOW BAD IS THE $500 MAACO paint job. I won't let them prep it,that's the money. Is it that bad for a few years? I'll redo when the other projects are done. Just some thoughts? Thanks, Dave You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 22:06:46 2008 From: "paul hatter" To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:07:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers "The founding fathers were conservatives" is a blanket statement which is untrue. Within the political climate of the late 18th century the ideas of the revolution were not considered conservative. The founding fathers covered a gamut of political ideology. If they had all been conservative John Adams and Thomas Jefferson would not have had their falling out.(Adams refused to be present at Jefferson's inauguration.) The political argument was which was to hold more power, the federal government, or the states. The Federalists wanted a strong national government while the Democratic-Republicans wanted strong state governments. The argument raged until 1865. The civil war was not initially fought over slavery but, rather, which political entity would be more powerful. Incidentally, the Republican party was originally the liberal party. "Free land, free trade, and free men," you can't get any more liberal than that. Sorry about the history lesson but this is what I have been doing for almost 40 years. Paul Hatter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 22:48:54 2008 From: steven boortz To: paul hatter , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers thank you for the history lesson s 675MIZU ----- Original Message ---- From: paul hatter To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:07:06 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers "The founding fathers were conservatives" is a blanket statement which is untrue. Within the political climate of the late 18th century the ideas of the revolution were not considered conservative. The founding fathers covered a gamut of political ideology. If they had all been conservative John Adams and Thomas Jefferson would not have had their falling out.(Adams refused to be present at Jefferson's inauguration.) The political argument was which was to hold more power, the federal government, or the states. The Federalists wanted a strong national government while the Democratic-Republicans wanted strong state governments. The argument raged until 1865. The civil war was not initially fought over slavery but, rather, which political entity would be more powerful. Incidentally, the Republican party was originally the liberal party. "Free land, free trade, and free men," you can't get any more liberal than that. Sorry about the history lesson but this is what I have been doing for almost 40 years. Paul Hatter You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 23:17:27 2008 From: "Paul" To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:17:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravan Well I think we have a lock for our Friday Caravan to Solvang and it looks to be a good Parade up. Here is our plan for any stragglers out there that would like to join up. (we would love to have you!) We have 7 cars leaving San Diego around 9am and will meet up with: Andrew Murphy and his crew in Irvine @ the Spectrum shopping ctr approx at 10:30am >From there will be stopping in Woodland hills @ the Woodlake Bowl just off the 405 around 12:30. Will pick up one more car in Camarillo and from there on to Solvang. All in all we look to have 15+/- Roadsters so it looks to be a blast! For those of you that will be going lets all try and stay together this year so we can "enjoy the ride" I look forward to seeing all of you again! If anyone needs my contact info, my cell # is: 619 818-4776 Paul(heyace)Gabriel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 22 23:31:34 2008 From: steve newby To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers While your facts are correct, and in the context of the time the fathers were certainly not "conservative" they do in fact represent the core beliefs of todays conservative movement. These are personal freedom AND personal responsibilty, private property rights and most importantly LIMITED government. --- On Tue, 4/22/08, paul hatter wrote: From: paul hatter Subject: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 8:07 PM "The founding fathers were conservatives" is a blanket statement which is untrue. Within the political climate of the late 18th century the ideas of the revolution were not considered conservative. The founding fathers covered a gamut of political ideology. If they had all been conservative John Adams and Thomas Jefferson would not have had their falling out.(Adams refused to be present at Jefferson's inauguration.) The political argument was which was to hold more power, the federal government, or the states. The Federalists wanted a strong national government while the Democratic-Republicans wanted strong state governments. The argument raged until 1865. The civil war was not initially fought over slavery but, rather, which political entity would be more powerful. Incidentally, the Republican party was originally the liberal party. "Free land, free trade, and free men," you can't get any more liberal than that. Sorry about the history lesson but this is what I have been doing for almost 40 years. Paul Hatter You are subscribed as csp541983rx7@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 06:02:31 2008 From: PDFenter@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:02:40 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters I thought this was Roadster mailing list. How about one place to escape all the political opinions coming the rest of the year. Phil **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 06:18:41 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters I agree and will not comment on politics again.. JimG --- On Wed, 4/23/08, PDFenter@aol.com wrote: From: PDFenter@aol.com Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2008, 7:02 AM I thought this was Roadster mailing list. How about one place to escape all the political opinions coming the rest of the year. Phil **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 09:23:46 2008 From: Durf & Sue Hyson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:21:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers Steve , at best you can claim that "some" of the core beliefs were represented . The rest are often about 180 degrees out. Paul is correct about the essential make-up of the founding fathers. Historically when you are trying to pigeon-hole with a descriptive term you will be incorrect as much as you will be correct as time and circumstance alter what the term's current definition is. Besides , it doesn't matter at all what you call them. Actual intentions , actions , and achievements or accomplishments provide the proper definition in history whatever the "tag" was. By the way the founding fathers were never , to a man , for limited government. They were , however , for limiting government applied without the involvement of the people being governed and for spreading the base of government to ensure it's safety . (three branches/checks and balances) The moral of the story ? Think for yourself as they did . Forget the rhetoric and the titles . Choose on what you know and believe and think will bring the best result. The biggest failure in all of the history of American government ? The Party lever on a voting machine. Buying the farm to get the cow gets you the cow and all the crap that's lying around the barnyard. All that you wanted was the cow. Many apologies for the rant off topic. I am just rooting for people to think for themselves. My line ends with me. Your Grandchildren will be better off if we all pay attention. You guys know where to aim the arrows. Feel free to do it off site. Thanks, Durf steve newby wrote: > While your facts are correct, and in the context of the time the > fathers were certainly not "conservative" they do in fact represent > the core beliefs of todays conservative movement. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 09:37:49 2008 From: steve newby To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] politics Amen no more politics on the roadster post but BURN YOUR TV Life will be better! More time in the garage working on roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 09:38:29 2008 From: Mike Harper To: Durf & Sue Hyson , Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers What they were MOST interested in was breaking away from the Crown and establishing self-government, for many noble and many self-serving reasons. (they stressed the noble ones) They were hardly monolithic in their philosophy, but they were (thankfully) successful. One could argue the same for the Confederacy, though they were not at all successful. The winners get to write the history to serve their purposes. God Bless the USA. Roadster content: See you all at the Mitty next week! Need to finish my last minute check list for Jessie, and hit the road! Mike (SC) '66 1600 (Jessie) --- Durf & Sue Hyson wrote: > Steve , at best you can claim that "some" of the > core beliefs were > represented . The rest are often about 180 degrees > out. Paul is correct > about the essential make-up of the founding fathers. > Historically when > you are trying to pigeon-hole with a descriptive > term you will be > incorrect as much as you will be correct as time and > circumstance alter > what the term's current definition is. Besides , it > doesn't matter at > all what you call them. Actual intentions , actions > , and achievements > or accomplishments provide the proper definition in > history whatever the > "tag" was. By the way the founding fathers were > never , to a man , for > limited government. They were , however , for > limiting government > applied without the involvement of the people being > governed and for > spreading the base of government to ensure it's > safety . (three > branches/checks and balances) > The moral of the story ? Think for yourself as they > did . Forget the > rhetoric and the titles . Choose on what you know > and believe and think > will bring the best result. The biggest failure in > all of the history of > American government ? The Party lever on a voting > machine. Buying the > farm to get the cow gets you the cow and all the > crap that's lying > around the barnyard. All that you wanted was the > cow. > > Many apologies for the rant off topic. I am just > rooting for people to > think for themselves. My line ends with me. Your > Grandchildren will be > better off if we all pay attention. You guys know > where to aim the > arrows. Feel free to do it off site. > > Thanks, Durf > > steve newby wrote: > > While your facts are correct, and in the > context of the time the > > fathers were certainly not "conservative" they > do in fact represent > > the core beliefs of todays conservative > movement. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 09:43:31 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:37:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] politics AHEM!!! donate it to a worthy cause. more politically correct than burning ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve newby" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:37 AM Subject: [Roadsters] politics > Amen no more politics on the roadster post > > but BURN YOUR TV > > Life will be better! More time in the garage working on roadsters > _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 09:43:44 2008 From: Robert Keen To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers PLEASE - Reply about politics to individual email addresses, not to the entire list. --Bob Keen Upper Peninsula, MI USA 68 1600 (still in hibernation with 2 feet of snow in front of the north-facing garage door.) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 09:54:34 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:54:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: daily driver smog check results, Okay engine exhaust gas experts, I took my car in for a CA smog check yesterday (meaning they put it on a dyno and run it at 15mph and 25mph), and figured it'd pass no problem, so while I due religious regular maintenance, it does have 102k miles and I haven't changed the plugs in 3 years or so. (~45k miles) Brand new air filter. Toyota Tacoma 3.4L V-6 (5GZFE engine, from memory), auto trans, 2wd, 4 door (like that makes a difference). So here is what I got for results: (it passed, but a few were "by a hair", see below) 15mph, 1729 rpm: %CO2: 15.0, %02: 0.0 25mph, 1751 rpm: %CO2: 15.1, %02: 0.0 And the 3 tested (pass/fail) readings Measured------- Average for Passing Vehicles----------Max Allowed HC (ppm): 15mph: 47------4-------51 (**) 25mph: 19-------4-------35 CO (%): 15mph: 0.14-----0.00------0.65 25mph: 0.02------0.01------0.79 NO (ppm): 15mph: 510-------18-------512 (**) 25mph: 168-------16-------765 The two with asterisks are the ones I am most concerned about. Any suggestions on what to do for next test (reg for 2010)? Note: on a sideline, on the recent Iron Bottom, I met someone who was driving a '79 stock midget, and when I asked him about smog, he said he'd get "the new additive from CRC that nearly guarantees passing numbers". He intimated it was like "solvent in a can", not sure, never heard of it, but thought I would throw it out there as an idea / research opportunity for those who have one "on the edge". Thanks for the help, looking forward to seeing y'all in Solvang, Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 09:57:26 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: "O'Farrell, Fergus" , Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: daily driver smog check results, Aren't Roadsters exempt from biennial checks in California due to their age? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA "O'Farrell, Fergus" wrote: Okay engine exhaust gas experts, I took my car in for a CA smog check yesterday (meaning they put it on a dyno and run it at 15mph and 25mph), and figured it'd pass no problem, so while I due religious regular maintenance, it does have 102k miles and I haven't changed the plugs in 3 years or so. (~45k miles) Brand new air filter. Toyota Tacoma 3.4L V-6 (5GZFE engine, from memory), auto trans, 2wd, 4 door (like that makes a difference). So here is what I got for results: (it passed, but a few were "by a hair", see below) 15mph, 1729 rpm: %CO2: 15.0, %02: 0.0 25mph, 1751 rpm: %CO2: 15.1, %02: 0.0 And the 3 tested (pass/fail) readings Measured------- Average for Passing Vehicles----------Max Allowed HC (ppm): 15mph: 47------4-------51 (**) 25mph: 19-------4-------35 CO (%): 15mph: 0.14-----0.00------0.65 25mph: 0.02------0.01------0.79 NO (ppm): 15mph: 510-------18-------512 (**) 25mph: 168-------16-------765 The two with asterisks are the ones I am most concerned about. Any suggestions on what to do for next test (reg for 2010)? Note: on a sideline, on the recent Iron Bottom, I met someone who was driving a '79 stock midget, and when I asked him about smog, he said he'd get "the new additive from CRC that nearly guarantees passing numbers". He intimated it was like "solvent in a can", not sure, never heard of it, but thought I would throw it out there as an idea / research opportunity for those who have one "on the edge". Thanks for the help, looking forward to seeing y'all in Solvang, Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 10:04:34 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:04:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Saturday Solvang Caravan, 6am-Woodlake Bowl And back to the topic of Roadsters...... 3 of us will be driving up Saturday morning, meeting at same, now infamous, Woodlake Bowl at 6am. may hang till 6:10 but no bets on that. A "spirited drive" up to Solvang guaranteed. I anyone needs parts/tools/jackstands/RhinoRamps brought along, call on my cell. It might not be turned on, but I'll check messages before I leave at 4:30 or so from my house. Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA 310-919-8077 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 12:20:35 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "O'Farrell, Fergus" , Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:20:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: daily driver smog check results, Fergus, HC and NO are usually inversely related. If one goes up, the other goes down. High HC is usually caused by running rich. High NO is usually caused by high combustion temperatures; advanced timing, running lean, etc. This suggests that you are not getting a complete burn. Especially when it cleans up at higher RPM's when timing isn't as crucial. I'd change the plugs, cap and rotor and check the wires before your next smog check. Steve 70' 1600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:54 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: daily driver smog check results,suggestions for next year > Okay engine exhaust gas experts, I took my car in for a CA smog check > yesterday (meaning they put it on a dyno and run it at 15mph and 25mph), > and figured it'd pass no problem, so while I due religious regular > maintenance, it does have 102k miles and I haven't changed the plugs in > 3 years or so. (~45k miles) > Brand new air filter. Toyota Tacoma 3.4L V-6 (5GZFE engine, from > memory), auto trans, 2wd, 4 door (like that makes a difference). > > So here is what I got for results: (it passed, but a few were "by a > hair", see below) > > 15mph, 1729 rpm: %CO2: 15.0, %02: 0.0 > 25mph, 1751 rpm: %CO2: 15.1, %02: 0.0 > > And the 3 tested (pass/fail) readings > Measured------- Average for Passing Vehicles----------Max Allowed > > HC (ppm): > 15mph: 47------4-------51 (**) > 25mph: 19-------4-------35 > CO (%): > 15mph: 0.14-----0.00------0.65 > 25mph: 0.02------0.01------0.79 > NO (ppm): > 15mph: 510-------18-------512 (**) > 25mph: 168-------16-------765 > > The two with asterisks are the ones I am most concerned about. Any > suggestions on what to do for next test (reg for 2010)? > > Note: on a sideline, on the recent Iron Bottom, I met someone who was > driving a '79 stock midget, and when I asked him about smog, he said > he'd get "the new additive from CRC that nearly guarantees passing > numbers". He intimated it was like "solvent in a can", not sure, never > heard of it, but thought I would throw it out there as an idea / > research opportunity for those who have one "on the edge". > > Thanks for the help, looking forward to seeing y'all in Solvang, > Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 13:20:44 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: csp541983rx7@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:20:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] politics I'm hoping we can continue this political discussion when were all in Solvang, NOT!!!!!! ---- Original Message ---- From: steve newby To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 7:37 am Subject: [Roadsters] politics Amen no more politics on the roadster post but BURN YOUR TV Life will be better! More time in the garage working on roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 14:23:32 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:24:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang Caravan Take pics! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Paul" > Well I think we have a lock for our Friday Caravan to Solvang and it looks to > be a good Parade up. Here is our plan for any stragglers out there that would > like to join up. (we would love to have you!) > We have 7 cars leaving San Diego around 9am and will meet up with: > > Andrew Murphy and his crew in Irvine @ the Spectrum shopping ctr approx at > 10:30am > > >From there will be stopping in Woodland hills @ the Woodlake Bowl just off the > 405 around 12:30. > > Will pick up one more car in Camarillo and from there on to Solvang. > > All in all we look to have 15+/- Roadsters so it looks to be a blast! > For those of you that will be going lets all try and stay together this year > so we can "enjoy the ride" > I look forward to seeing all of you again! > > If anyone needs my contact info, my cell # is: > 619 818-4776 > > Paul(heyace)Gabriel > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 14:29:59 2008 From: "Don Boyd" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:29:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] exhaust gas Couple things: The "0" O2 means your rich.Not much rich mind you because the HC isn't sky high. Could be a lot of things. Get it on a OBDII scanner and look at the numbers outputting from various sensors. Common problems could be : thermostat opening too cold, ECT sensor bad, or AMS dirty or going bad. The high NO is possibly caused by a plugging EGR system. This could also be the slightly rich cause too. High HC is too rich or a misfire. Again, the only way is to get the scanner hooked up and watch the misfire counts. Changing plugs is a good idea. Changing oil just before an emission test reduces HC count somewhat. Check the EGR flow. At 100k it most likely needs attention. It helps mileage slightly too. I'm a shop owner that specializes in Euro cars, so this is not Toyota specific data. Your library has Aldata, you can get access free. It costs me 3k a year. Don Boyd ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 15:04:21 2008 From: Jerry Krakauer To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:04:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers Guess that leaves G.W. B. out, his administration clearly doesn't support any of those. Jerry Krakauer ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve newby" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers > While your facts are correct, and in the context of the time the > fathers were certainly not "conservative" they do in fact represent > the core beliefs of todays conservative movement. These are personal > freedom AND personal responsibilty, private property rights and most > importantly LIMITED government. > --- On Tue, 4/22/08, paul hatter wrote: > > From: paul hatter > Subject: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 8:07 PM > "The founding fathers were conservatives" is a blanket statement which > is > untrue. Within the political climate of the late 18th century the ideas of > the > revolution were not considered conservative. The founding fathers covered > a > gamut of political ideology. If they had all been conservative John Adams > and > Thomas Jefferson would not have had their falling out.(Adams refused to be > present at Jefferson's inauguration.) The political argument was which was > to > hold more power, the federal government, or the states. The Federalists > wanted > a strong national government while the Democratic-Republicans wanted > strong > state governments. The argument raged until 1865. The civil war was not > initially fought over slavery but, rather, which political entity would be > more powerful. Incidentally, the Republican party was originally the > liberal > party. "Free land, free trade, and free men," you can't get any > more liberal > than that. Sorry about the history lesson but this is what I have been > doing > for almost 40 years. Paul Hatter > You are subscribed as csp541983rx7@yahoo.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 16:41:57 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: "Jerry Krakauer" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:42:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers STFU!!!! Keep it roadster-related. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 16:51:09 2008 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:51:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers Lemon Pound Cake 2 3/4 cups all purpose flour 1/2 tsp baking powder 1/4 tsp salt 3 sticks unsalted butter at room temperature 2 1/4 cups sugar 6 large eggs 1 cup milk 1 1/2 TB lemon zest 1 tsp. pure lemon extract 1/2 cup fresh lemon juice Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 17:01:13 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: gogineni.alvin@gene.com, jsk977@optonline.net Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:01:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers AMEN! Are you going to Solvang?? Lookin' forward to seeing you and Becky (actually I'm looking forward to seeing Becky). Tim ---- Original Message ---- From: Alvin Gogineni To: Jerry Krakauer Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 2:42 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers STFU!!!! Keep it roadster-related. You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 17:08:04 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:04:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers this is awfully off topic. can we please return to the history lessons??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Kinstle" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers > Lemon Pound Cake > > 2 3/4 cups all purpose flour > 1/2 tsp baking powder > 1/4 tsp salt > 3 sticks unsalted butter at room temperature > 2 1/4 cups sugar > 6 large eggs > 1 cup milk > 1 1/2 TB lemon zest > 1 tsp. pure lemon extract > 1/2 cup fresh lemon juice > > > Joe Kinstle > '68 2L > BLK SRL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 17:35:42 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:36:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers What about politicians that drive roadsters? Pete "Happy Hump Day!" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Oliver" > this is awfully off topic. can we please return to the history lessons??? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Kinstle" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers > > > > Lemon Pound Cake > > > > 2 3/4 cups all purpose flour > > 1/2 tsp baking powder > > 1/4 tsp salt > > 3 sticks unsalted butter at room temperature > > 2 1/4 cups sugar > > 6 large eggs > > 1 cup milk > > 1 1/2 TB lemon zest > > 1 tsp. pure lemon extract > > 1/2 cup fresh lemon juice > > > > > > Joe Kinstle > > '68 2L > > BLK SRL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 18:00:42 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Joe Kinstle'" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:01:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers Come on Joe, that's pretty lame! What size pan, greased or ungreased, and temp & time in the oven? And how about a few photos! Paul "I crew for food!" Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters- Lemon Pound Cake 2 3/4 cups all purpose flour 1/2 tsp baking powder 1/4 tsp salt 3 sticks unsalted butter at room temperature 2 1/4 cups sugar 6 large eggs 1 cup milk 1 1/2 TB lemon zest 1 tsp. pure lemon extract 1/2 cup fresh lemon juice Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 24 01:36:00 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Stephen Wan" , "O'Farrell, Fergus" Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:35:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: daily driver smog check results, Don't forget a clean air filter! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Wan" To: "O'Farrell, Fergus" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: daily driver smog check results, suggestions for next year > Fergus, > HC and NO are usually inversely related. If one goes up, the other goes > down. > High HC is usually caused by running rich. High NO is usually caused by > high combustion temperatures; advanced timing, running lean, etc. > This suggests that you are not getting a complete burn. Especially when it > cleans up at higher RPM's when timing isn't as crucial. > I'd change the plugs, cap and rotor and check the wires before your next > smog check. > > Steve > 70' 1600 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:54 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] OT: daily driver smog check results,suggestions for > next year > > >> Okay engine exhaust gas experts, I took my car in for a CA smog check >> yesterday (meaning they put it on a dyno and run it at 15mph and 25mph), >> and figured it'd pass no problem, so while I due religious regular >> maintenance, it does have 102k miles and I haven't changed the plugs in >> 3 years or so. (~45k miles) >> Brand new air filter. Toyota Tacoma 3.4L V-6 (5GZFE engine, from >> memory), auto trans, 2wd, 4 door (like that makes a difference). >> >> So here is what I got for results: (it passed, but a few were "by a >> hair", see below) >> >> 15mph, 1729 rpm: %CO2: 15.0, %02: 0.0 >> 25mph, 1751 rpm: %CO2: 15.1, %02: 0.0 >> >> And the 3 tested (pass/fail) readings >> Measured------- Average for Passing Vehicles----------Max Allowed >> >> HC (ppm): >> 15mph: 47------4-------51 (**) >> 25mph: 19-------4-------35 >> CO (%): >> 15mph: 0.14-----0.00------0.65 >> 25mph: 0.02------0.01------0.79 >> NO (ppm): >> 15mph: 510-------18-------512 (**) >> 25mph: 168-------16-------765 >> >> The two with asterisks are the ones I am most concerned about. Any >> suggestions on what to do for next test (reg for 2010)? >> >> Note: on a sideline, on the recent Iron Bottom, I met someone who was >> driving a '79 stock midget, and when I asked him about smog, he said >> he'd get "the new additive from CRC that nearly guarantees passing >> numbers". He intimated it was like "solvent in a can", not sure, never >> heard of it, but thought I would throw it out there as an idea / >> research opportunity for those who have one "on the edge". >> >> Thanks for the help, looking forward to seeing y'all in Solvang, >> Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 24 08:41:59 2008 From: "Robbie Harrison" To: "'Joe Kinstle'" , "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:41:52 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers What part of the engine compartment, how fast, for how long for best results? Robbie -------Original Message------- From: Paul Date: 4/23/2008 7:01:34 PM To: 'Joe Kinstle' Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Founding Fathers Come on Joe, that's pretty lame! What size pan, greased or ungreased, and temp & time in the oven? And how about a few photos! Paul "I crew for food!" Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters- Lemon Pound Cake 2 3/4 cups all purpose flour 1/2 tsp baking powder 1/4 tsp salt 3 sticks unsalted butter at room temperature 2 1/4 cups sugar 6 large eggs 1 cup milk 1 1/2 TB lemon zest 1 tsp. pure lemon extract 1/2 cup fresh lemon juice Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM . [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of imstp_pets_cat1_en.gif] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 24 09:49:39 2008 From: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports To: Datsun list Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:49:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ at sports imports Just a reminder, that the BBQ is this Saturday from noon until 5 p.m. at 19122-27th Ave. Unit #4, Surrey, BC. we have quite a few 510, 240Z, and many roadsters coming in for the celebration. maybe even the odd 79 210, 710, pulsar, 300ZX. its bring your own drink and something to throw on the BBQ. I am supplying salads, bread, condiments. Mike is bringing a cake. I am hoping that there will be representation from WA and OR. Come one come all. Let me know if you are coming to make sure I have enough salads and buns. Enjoy the ride Ross Mullen sports imports 604-538-5615 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 24 10:55:10 2008 From: "jtorres67" To: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:54:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Final Solvang 2008 Posting Hello to All!! It's Thursday morning and we are about ready to head to Solvang. Currently we have about 60 cars registered, with a bunch threatening and about 110 tix sold for the BBQ awards/dinner. I know there may have been a little confusion since the " Registered Participant" page on the web site showed about 24 people registered. I was unable to update the site after I moved. I didn't think about it at the time, but I hope people didn't see that and decide not to come because of a low turnout.....oh well, live and learn....better web site next year! To all that are coming! We will have some extra Tee's, Hoodies, polos, etc. But not many! If you want one before the show, I will be at the Motel 6 in Buellton as of tonight(Thursday). As far as BBQ Tix. We will have about 20 extra tix and after that, no more. So hunt me down early if you want to go to the awards bbq and dinner. This year we have some cool raffle prizes that include a Whistler Radar detector for all you lead foots...a Magellan Navigational system(very cool) and much, much more. We will also be having a 50/50 raffle this year, with the winner splitting the pot for a cash prize.....maybe winning this can pay for your trip this year! Solvang is once again upon us! See you there, and drive safe! Jeff & Gabby T. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 25 08:07:58 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:07:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] California Craigslist window shopping Some interesting things on LA C-L: 13B powered (rotary) roadster, only roadster I have ever seen with MORE front tire clearance than mine! http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/654159381.html Toyota powered 1200, (in LV) not sure why you would want to do this, but if you are a Toy-fan and had the engine sitting around, I guess. (I am very partial to this body style) http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/654206813.html Not a roadster, but an option for a tow the roadster vehicle: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/654606787.html This one is a nice looker, and isn't claiming to be the long-lost auto show prototype..... http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/646360076.html And these next two are begging to be put together into one project: (by someone with a LOT more project time than me) http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/647052851.html and http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/car/651200602.html Or maybe try to squeeze in: (eww, just notice it is from an automatic car) http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/651509419.html And from farther north: Lotta work done on this one, with no mention of the primered hood visible in the pics. The rims make it look a bit "hoopty", need to be toned down an inch or two. (now has 13" rotors, may have originally come with 13" wheels!) http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/649311465.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 25 09:11:35 2008 From: jim williams To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] new to list Hello, I'm a new owner of a 1970 1600 41,000 miles Couple of questions: 1. Tire size: It has B78x14s. What would be a new replacement size? ( I like a full wheel well) 2. Best parts source. I need all the hoses(original ones are still on the car) all tune up parts are needed. (can a parts place like NAPA be used by stating the car is a 1600?) 3. Can any of the Datsun SU parts be crossed over to the British SU parts? 4. The car has a great deal of hesitation when first starting out. Pull the choke full on it goes away. But, in order to drive it you need to pull the choke at each gear change. Too lean??? Doesn't get that much better when warmed up. Thanks Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 25 13:37:24 2008 From: Adam Hanson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 vs 1600 wheels Will the 14 inch stock wheels from a 1600 fit on a 1500 without modification? Thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 25 14:43:46 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:43:53 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] new to list The Search Nazi sez "search the archives." Welcome. If you haven't been there, check out the other great resource for roadsters: 1. Lotsa choices. Check the 311s.org TechWiki Tire&Wheel section and the forums. 2. There is no single best choice. Many parts available from Nissan, Napa, AutoZone, etc. There's also a number of excellent vendors to feed our addiction. 3. My understanding is very little. I'll let Keith "the slow carb guy" Williams respond. Keith's a SU guru. 4. I'll let those who know respond. Cheers. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: jim williams > Hello, > I'm a new owner of a 1970 1600 41,000 miles > Couple of questions: > 1. Tire size: It has B78x14s. What would be a new > replacement size? ( I like a full wheel well) > 2. Best parts source. I need all the hoses(original > ones are still on the car) all tune up parts are > needed. (can a parts place like NAPA be used by > stating the car is a 1600?) > 3. Can any of the Datsun SU parts be crossed over to > the British SU parts? > 4. The car has a great deal of hesitation when first > starting out. Pull the choke full on it goes away. > But, in order to drive it you need to pull the choke > at each gear change. Too lean??? Doesn't get that much > better when warmed up. > Thanks > > Jim Williams > Lewisburg, West Virginia > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 25 15:31:42 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: sportsix63@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:31:54 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] new to list In a message dated 4/25/2008 7:14:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sportsix63@yahoo.com writes: 3. Can any of the Datsun SU parts be crossed over to the British SU parts? 4. The car has a great deal of hesitation when first starting out. Pull the choke full on it goes away. But, in order to drive it you need to pull the choke at each gear change. Too lean??? Doesn't get that much better when warmed up. Thanks Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia Darn few of the British SU parts will fit. They do have a good selection of needles. Check the dash pot oil. Most likely there is none there. The factory says 10w. ATF or Marvel Mystery Oil are popular. Here is the link to my carb page. _Setting up and adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on the Datsun Roadster_ (http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/su-setup/su-setup.html) The one on 311s.org is supposed to be the same but it's a step behind. keith "the slow carb guy" williams **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 04:05:59 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:06:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? eBay Item number: 270230935964 That's weird.but I kinda like it. Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 05:40:23 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:40:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? Saw a hood like this before. My guess is the car had a motor swap in it's history. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith eBay Item number: 270230935964 That's weird.but I kinda like it. Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 06:02:40 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:03:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty weather Hi Everyone, Heres an update on Mitty. If you have a chance, pick up some oversized cheap plastic floor mats. Red Georgia clay is nasty stuff on your carpets. Its bad enough as dust, its HORRIBLE as mud. Im not trying to turn anyone off of coming. PLEASE SHOW UP!!!!! I just thought you might want to be prepared. Ill update later in the week. As we all know, weather in the south is HIGHLY changeable. :-) Im going rain or shine. Hotel is already paid for and non-refundable, and my 3 day Mitty pass is in the glove box. As those of us in the south know, partly cloudy with 20% chance of rain, means no damn rain. Isolated T-storms with 30% chance of rain, means probably no damn rain. Showers with 60% chance of rain, means its either going to sprinkle a little or its going to come down in buckets! HAHAHA! Braselton GA forecast 5/2/08  5/5/08 as of 8:00 AM 4/26/2008 Friday Partly Cloudy - 790 550 20% Saturday Isolated T-Storms 820 550 30% Sunday Showers 750 530 60% ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 06:27:11 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:27:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? Hi Paul, I figured that too. The holes where the carbs belong just looked really weird. Usually a hood like that would house a V6 or more likely V8. Carbs wouldn't be there then. Hmmmmm. Someone on this list bought the eBay roadster with the (Ford V8?) swap that had a double scoop. I'm sorry I don't remember who off the top of my head. On this one, I think I'd have rounded the "hump" more. It would look more natural and then put the opening a little farther forward. Not that I would want to copy one, but a little more like the 280Z or Z61 Aston Martin DB4/GT Zagato, only exaggerated (with a Roadster scoop on top). There I go dreamin' again. Have a GREAT weekend! Matt! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 7:41 AM To: 'Matthew A. Smith'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? Saw a hood like this before. My guess is the car had a motor swap in it's history. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith eBay Item number: 270230935964 That's weird.but I kinda like it. Matt You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 07:07:34 2008 From: To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:07:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? Looks like a klugey 240z engine install... weird hood... + 2 holes in it too!! Lee Ehinger >From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> >Date: 2008/04/26 Sat AM 06:40:41 CDT >To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? > Saw a hood like this before. My guess is the car had a motor swap in it's >history. > >Paul >Ohio > >-----Original Message----- >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net >[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith > >eBay Item number: 270230935964 > > >That's weird.but I kinda like it. > >Matt >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as leehinger@verizon.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 07:48:25 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:48:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mitty weather I remember a few years back when the tornados just missed Road Atlanta. Sunday we all slid around the infield on that lovely red clay. The next heavy rain I drove in was back in Ohio and my poor car bled red clay for miles! And while Matt's ideas on weather forecasting may be accurate for the location, I've always found that if I leave the hard top on and don't wash the roadster, the sun will shine all weekend. Conversely, if you leave the top at home and spit shine it, the rains will come! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Hi Everyone, Heres an update on Mitty. If you have a chance, pick up some oversized cheap plastic floor mats. Red Georgia clay is nasty stuff on your carpets. Its bad enough as dust, its HORRIBLE as mud. Im not trying to turn anyone off of coming. PLEASE SHOW UP!!!!! I just thought you might want to be prepared. Ill update later in the week. As we all know, weather in the south is HIGHLY changeable. :-) Im going rain or shine. Hotel is already paid for and non-refundable, and my 3 day Mitty pass is in the glove box. As those of us in the south know, partly cloudy with 20% chance of rain, means no damn rain. Isolated T-storms with 30% chance of rain, means probably no damn rain. Showers with 60% chance of rain, means its either going to sprinkle a little or its going to come down in buckets! HAHAHA! Braselton GA forecast 5/2/08  5/5/08 as of 8:00 AM 4/26/2008 Friday Partly Cloudy - 790 550 20% Saturday Isolated T-Storms 820 550 30% Sunday Showers 750 530 60% ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 08:24:07 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: leehinger@verizon.net, matthews517@earthlink.net, Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:23:49 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? In a message dated 4/26/2008 6:08:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, leehinger@verizon.net writes: Looks like a klugey 240z engine install... weird hood... + 2 holes in it too!! That is a Z motor. The L motor is taller. I've seen other L motor swaps with the tall scoop. The last Z motor swap I hear about involved lifting the body, installing the engine then putting the body back on. The guy sold it. A while later he saw it on a car lot. He asked about it and was told it needed a clutch. There was no way to get to the clutch without lifting the body off the car. The 240Z motor has 150 HP, same as a Solex 2L. keith **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 08:57:12 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'Matthew A. Smith'" Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:57:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? Look closely, the round holes in the hood are for the carbs. Likely because the L24 sits higher in the frame to clear the cross member given that it's mounted forward a bit so less has to stick through the hole cut in the firewall. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" ; Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? > Saw a hood like this before. My guess is the car had a motor swap in > it's > history. > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith > > eBay Item number: 270230935964 > > > That's weird.but I kinda like it. > > Matt > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 08:58:38 2008 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicole Younger=20?= To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:59:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Automated Reply from Nicole Younger I will be out of the office starting April 26th and will be returning May 5th. If you are in need of immediate assistance, please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 09:52:15 2008 From: aiken1315@bellsouth.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:52:05 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Trailer Lights Connector Wiring Question I built a small cargo trailer to pull behind my roadster to The Mitty. I have wired the trailer 4-prong wiring connector to my car tail light wires and can not get both the trailer running lights and brake lights to work together. Blinkers hooked up easily and are good. There are two wires and a ground wire that go to the tail lights. Using process of elimination I initially tried wiring the tail light connector wire to each tail light wire separately and they would only worked separately (duh). I then spliced the wire from the tail light connector and attached each spliced wire to a tail light wire and still only the brake lights work - no running lights on the trailer. Any suggestions or experience in getting both to work? I know everyone has experience pulling a trailer with a roadster :>). David Daily driver 66 Rusted, but titled 67.5 and a completely torn down 70 in the garage that my wife keeps asking questions about ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 10:20:07 2008 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger everyone call Kathy!!!!! Nicole Younger wrote: I will be out of the office starting April 26th and will be returning May 5th. If you are in need of immediate assistance, please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 10:58:40 2008 From: Pat Horne To: aiken1315@bellsouth.net Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:58:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Trailer Lights Connector Wiring Question David, Check the ground wire from the trailer to the Roadster. You mush have a good ground to get everything to work correctly. What I think your Roadster has is a tail light and a separate stop/turn light on each side. What I think you are saying is that with the stop/turn light hooked up they work as stop and turn, but when you turn the headlights on, the tail lights do not work. If you have separate stop and turn lights, which I believe were only on the later Roadsters, then you need an adapter to go from the 4 bulb Roadster wiring to the 3 bulb trailer wiring. If need be you can make your own with some diodes and save about $10. Either way, please get back with me and I can walk you through fixing your problem. Peace, Pat Thusly spake aiken1315@bellsouth.net: > I built a small cargo trailer to pull behind my roadster to The Mitty. I have wired the trailer 4-prong wiring connector to my car tail light wires and can not get both the trailer running lights and brake lights to work together. Blinkers hooked up easily and are good. There are two wires and a ground wire that go to the tail lights. Using process of elimination I initially tried wiring the tail light connector wire to each tail light wire separately and they would only worked separately (duh). I then spliced the wire from the tail light connector and attached each spliced wire to a tail light wire and still only the brake lights work - no running lights on the trailer. Any suggestions or experience in getting both to work? I know everyone has experience pulling a trailer with a roadster :>). > > David > Daily driver 66 > Rusted, but titled 67.5 and a completely torn down 70 in the garage that my wife keeps asking questions about > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 12:07:12 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:07:21 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty trip Hello all, I'll be leaving for Atlanta from Las Vegas on Monday to attend the Mitty. Looking forward to getting together with the roadster crowd while I'm there. I'm bringing some carb things and would be happy to do some carb tech sessions while I'm there. Since I won't be bringing my car I'll be looking for volunteers to let me tune their carbs. keith "the slow carb guy" williams **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 12:07:34 2008 From: "pjmill" To: Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:07:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger Obviously, Nicole is out driving around in her Roadster.... Should we tell Kathy? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 9:20 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger everyone call Kathy!!!!! Nicole Younger wrote: I will be out of the office starting April 26th and will be returning May 5th. If you are in need of immediate assistance, please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. You are subscribed as pjmill@sonic.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 12:55:42 2008 From: aiken1315@bellsouth.net To: roadsters@hornesystemstx.com Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:55:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Trailer Lights Connector Wiring Question Pat The way my lights are set up is the turn signal is by itself and the brake and tail light (tail light is on when the lights are turned on) are together. I think that is the 2nd set up you are describing below which would need an adaptor. The way it is now, I can either get the tail light (when lights turned on) working or the brake working depending on how I wire it. Splitting the feed wire from the connector and hooking up to both of those wires independently at the same time isn't working, if that makes sense. Come back with some suggestions. David -------------- Original message from Pat Horne : -------------- > David, > > Check the ground wire from the trailer to the Roadster. You mush have a > good ground to get everything to work correctly. > What I think your Roadster has is a tail light and a separate stop/turn > light on each side. What I think you are saying is that with the > stop/turn light hooked up they work as stop and turn, but when you turn > the headlights on, the tail lights do not work. > > If you have separate stop and turn lights, which I believe were only on > the later Roadsters, then you need an adapter to go from the 4 bulb > Roadster wiring to the 3 bulb trailer wiring. If need be you can make > your own with some diodes and save about $10. > > Either way, please get back with me and I can walk you through fixing > your problem. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake aiken1315@bellsouth.net: > > I built a small cargo trailer to pull behind my roadster to The Mitty. I have > wired the trailer 4-prong wiring connector to my car tail light wires and can > not get both the trailer running lights and brake lights to work together. > Blinkers hooked up easily and are good. There are two wires and a ground wire > that go to the tail lights. Using process of elimination I initially tried > wiring the tail light connector wire to each tail light wire separately and they > would only worked separately (duh). I then spliced the wire from the tail light > connector and attached each spliced wire to a tail light wire and still only > the brake lights work - no running lights on the trailer. Any suggestions or > experience in getting both to work? I know everyone has experience pulling a > trailer with a roadster :>). > > > > David > > Daily driver 66 > > Rusted, but titled 67.5 and a completely torn down 70 in the garage that my > wife keeps asking questions about > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as roadsters@hornesystemstx.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 13:00:55 2008 From: aiken1315@bellsouth.net To: datsun-roadsters , Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:01:08 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Mitty Weather Update Weather.com now shows only a 30 % chance of scattered showers for Friday and Saturday and 20 % chance for Sunday. David ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 19:38:14 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'Matthew A. Smith'" Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:38:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? The 6 cyl in there, (L24?) looks like it needed the clearance for the valve cover or the radiator. It's kind of neat. Might look good or bad in person. Either way, it's unique and relatively well done. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Paul [mailto:9laser3@bright.net] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 7:41 AM To: 'Matthew A. Smith'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? Saw a hood like this before. My guess is the car had a motor swap in it's history. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith eBay Item number: 270230935964 That's weird.but I kinda like it. Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 19:55:02 2008 From: Pat Horne To: dave Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:55:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? Looks like someone set the engine in, hen noticed that there was no room for the radiator. There is no choke or throttle cable, and no fuel lines. I'd bet that the drivetrain is just sitting in there. Anyone know what the length difference is on a Z and 1500 trans? I can't tell if there is a shifter in there or not. Any way, with the front end sitting so low on the dirt, I wonder if the frame is still in tact enough to pull it onto a trailer! Rust free Arizona car, this isn't! Peace, Pat Thusly spake dave: > The 6 cyl in there, (L24?) looks like it needed the clearance for the > valve cover or the radiator. It's kind of neat. Might look good or bad > in person. Either way, it's unique and relatively well done. > > Dave Brisco > ECR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul [mailto:9laser3@bright.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 7:41 AM > To: 'Matthew A. Smith'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's up with the hood on this car? > > Saw a hood like this before. My guess is the car had a motor swap in > it's > history. > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith > > eBay Item number: 270230935964 > > > That's weird.but I kinda like it. > > Matt > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 19:57:29 2008 From: "dave" To: "'oliver'" , Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:58:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Better get used to seeing this for a week or two :) -----Original Message----- From: oliver [mailto:sumton@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:20 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Automated Reply from Nicole Younger everyone call Kathy!!!!! Nicole Younger wrote: I will be out of the office starting April 26th and will be returning May 5th. If you are in need of immediate assistance, please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 26 20:49:48 2008 From: sidney raper To: Regular Roadster List Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:48:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Things that happen while I am out of town... I go out of town for a week and two Roadsters I know show up on eBay! Mark has his Zetec car on there (auction 180235120355 - link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Datsun-1600-1967-Datsun-Roadster-with-Z etec-Drivetrain-1600-2000_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ008QQitemZ18023 5120355QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ebayphotohosting) And a local 1965 1500 ( auction 190215488584 - link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190215488584) Both of these are fantastic cars. I am shocked that they are both CHEAP right now. Mark's car is a very nice custom that still looks stock to the untrained eye (until you pop the hood) while Erin's 1500 is as nice a 2 seat 1500 as you will find. It needs a radio and a driver. Man, I would love to have her car... Sidney Raper 1964 1500 (still a project.... sigh....) 1967 SRL311 00076 (alive again!) Jacksonville Florida http://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html _________________________________________________________________ Make i'm yours. Create a custom banner to support your cause. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Contribute/Default.aspx?source=TXT_TAGHM_MSN_ Make_IM_Yours ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 27 06:49:32 2008 From: Tsjecon@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:49:33 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] 1965 SPL 310 Hello. I'm new to Datsun Roadsters and also this board. I've always been a Triumph guy but I had an opportunity to acquire a 1500 that had been in a garage buried in boxes etc. for 33yrs. The brakes. engine and maybe more are stuck but the car was actually(no really)owned by an old lady and has 23000 miles. The chrome has evaporated and there's some rust at the bottom of the quarters. The interior is pretty good. Still has the plastic on the kick panels etc. I have alot of questions but to begin with. a recent post mentioned a 1500 on ebay that claims to be a 65 yet there is no mention of third seat(which mine has) and the trunk is different. I have a title and original bill of sale stating 65 so I guess my question is whether the ebay car is later or has a new trunk or is my car earlier. Thanks Terry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 27 07:01:08 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:01:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Cigarette lighter problem Hi Everyone, I know this is trivial, but here goes. I added an aftermarket cigarette lighter (don't have a center console). I have it wired completely separate from everything else in the car. (-) is to the firewall and (+) is to the battery, thru a 30 amp fuse. Here's the problem. That 30 amp fuse blows every other time I use the lighter. Would it be OK to remove the fuse from the circuit? The socket is ONLY used for the cigarette lighter. I don't use any other components in it (charger, light, or stuff like that). Should I use a fusible link wire so it will blow slower and give the lighter time to get hot? Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 27 07:11:29 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: Tsjecon@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:11:41 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1965 SPL 310 In a message dated 4/27/2008 5:50:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Tsjecon@aol.com writes: Hello. I'm new to Datsun Roadsters and also this board. I've always been a Triumph guy but I had an opportunity to acquire a 1500 that had been in a garage buried in boxes etc. for 33yrs. The brakes. engine and maybe more are stuck but the car was actually(no really)owned by an old lady and has 23000 miles. The chrome has evaporated and there's some rust at the bottom of the quarters. The interior is pretty good. Still has the plastic on the kick panels etc. I have alot of questions but to begin with. a recent post mentioned a 1500 on ebay that claims to be a 65 yet there is no mention of third seat(which mine has) and the trunk is different. I have a title and original bill of sale stating 65 so I guess my question is whether the ebay car is later or has a new trunk or is my car earlier. Thanks Terry Welcome to the crowd. If you haven't found it, check out 311s.org . My understanding is that a couple of items changed over the life of the 1500 production. The earlier had external trunk hinges, three seats, and a single carb. The engine should have a big 1500 cast into the side of the block. Often the title indicates the year first sold rather than the manufacture year. Often cars were titled a year or two late. If your cowl plate does not have the manufacture year on it there are serial number lists that can identify the year. After sitting that long you can count on replacing lots of bits in the hydraulic clutch and brake system. Prime the engine oil before trying to start. Where are you located? There are roadster gatherings that are a seriously good time. keith **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 27 07:21:54 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: matthews517@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:22:01 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cigarette lighter problem In a message dated 4/27/2008 6:01:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, matthews517@earthlink.net writes: Hi Everyone, I know this is trivial, but here goes. I added an aftermarket cigarette lighter (don't have a center console). I have it wired completely separate from everything else in the car. (-) is to the firewall and (+) is to the battery, thru a 30 amp fuse. Here's the problem. That 30 amp fuse blows every other time I use the lighter. Would it be OK to remove the fuse from the circuit? The socket is ONLY used for the cigarette lighter. I don't use any other components in it (charger, light, or stuff like that). Should I use a fusible link wire so it will blow slower and give the lighter time to get hot? Matt 30 amps is a lot of current. Seems like a bunch for a lighter. Since it's blowing every other time then it might not be excessive. Double check your wiring to make sure you don't have a short. As a test you might remove the lighter and it's wiring and hook it directly to the battery. You do want a fuse, wires get really hot in a hurry, especially if you are going straight to the battery. Having smoke in the cockpit just isn't any fun. Having it continue to burn after you turn the key off is even less fun. keith **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 27 07:25:29 2008 From: Tsjecon@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:24:33 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 I figured that like the British cars the dates may be fuzzy regarding date of manufacture and sale date. Mine does have V notch with handle on trunk. It is two carb. 4 wheel drum brakes. I'll have to go out and look for #s under the hood. I picked up the car in southern CT and trailered it back to my home in SE Mass. Not sure when I'll get to this project. Have to finish the TR 4A first. The Datsun is a really cool car though. Terry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 27 07:37:25 2008 From: "John Capobianco" To: , Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:36:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 Terry - Sounds like you have a '64. There is a group in New England that will be a good source of info in addition to this list. It is DRONE (Datsun Roadster Owners NorthEast). There website is http://www.drone-club.com. Join the list and you will get info about local events and people in your area. I figured that like the British cars the dates may be fuzzy regarding date of manufacture and sale date. Mine does have V notch with handle on trunk. It is two carb. 4 wheel drum brakes. I'll have to go out and look for #s under the hood. I picked up the car in southern CT and trailered it back to my home in SE Mass. Not sure when I'll get to this project. Have to finish the TR 4A first. The Datsun is a really cool car though. Terry ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 27 07:51:19 2008 From: Tsjecon@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:51:28 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 Thanks John and Keith (and all) for your suggestions. Hope to get to it soon Terry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 27 09:24:04 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:32:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cigarette lighter problem Mathew, Keith is right, ALWAYS install fuse close to the battery or power source connection when installing accessory items. Installing a fuse prevents smoke, followed shortly by foul odors, and a mess to clean up. Not to mention possible damage to whatever may be near the burning wires. New cars today fuse their lighter sockets (or power outlets as the are often called) at 20 Amps from the factory. In years past lighter sockets were often fused at 14 Amps, or in some cases, like the high windshield roadsters, 20 Amps. If you are planning to run a laptop from this connection I would use the 20 Amp fuse. If you are blowing a 30 Amp fuse I suspect there is something metallic inside of your socket body, or the lighter plug itself has a serious short in it or connected to it. 30 Amps is a lot of juice for a small short to survive. Most light shorts would burn out rather than blowing a 30 Amp fuse first. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 4/27/2008 6:01:14 AM, Matthew A. Smith (matthews517@earthlink.net) wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I know this is trivial, but here goes. I added an aftermarket cigarette > lighter > (don't have a center console). I have it wired completely separate > from everything else in the car. (-) is to the firewall and (+) is to the > battery, thru a 30 amp fuse. Here's > the problem. That 30 amp fuse blows > every other time I use the lighter. Would it be OK to remove the fuse > from > the circuit? The socket is ONLY used for the cigarette lighter. I don't use > any other components in it (charger, light, or stuff like that). Should I > use a fusible link wire so it will blow slower and give the lighter time to > get hot? > > Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 00:03:12 2008 From: "E Scanlon" To: "Matthew A. Smith" , Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:03:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cigarette lighter problem My WAG's: What gage wire are you using for the + to the battery, and firewall? I seem to recall that the thinner the wire the more resistance (actuall less conductivity) it has and therefore potential overload on a fuse. Also, have you checked that the ground at the firewall is making good contact? Lastly, have you checked that the prong that holds the lighter when it's depressed isn't overly tight? That prong is designed to expand with the heat from the lighter element, but sometimes they can be overly tight causing the lighter to overheat before it will expand that prong enough to release the lighter. It should be tight enough to hold the lighter against it's spring, but loose enough that once it heats up it allows it to pop out of the prong (not the holder). HTH E > Hi Everyone, > > I know this is trivial, but here goes. I added an aftermarket cigarette > lighter (don't have a center console). I have it wired completely separate > from everything else in the car. (-) is to the firewall and (+) is to the > battery, thru a 30 amp fuse. Here's the problem. That 30 amp fuse blows > every other time I use the lighter. Would it be OK to remove the fuse from > the circuit? The socket is ONLY used for the cigarette lighter. I don't > use > any other components in it (charger, light, or stuff like that). Should I > use a fusible link wire so it will blow slower and give the lighter time > to > get hot? > > Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 01:51:42 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:22:45 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cigarette lighter problem --===============0180020163== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "I know this is trivial, but here goes. I added an aftermarket cigarette lighter (don't have a center console). I have it wired completely separate from everything else in the car. (-) is to the firewall and (+) is to the battery, thru a 30 amp fuse. Here's the problem. That 30 amp fuse blows every other time I use the lighter. Would it be OK to remove the fuse from the circuit? The socket is ONLY used for the cigarette lighter. I don't use any other components in it (charger, light, or stuff like that). Should I use a fusible link wire so it will blow slower and give the lighter time to get hot? Matt" Matt, sounds like you have done everything right. Don't, for ANY reason, run this circuit unfused. It MUST be protected, like any other electrical circuit. Providing you have tight connections to everything, there should be no reason for the circuit to draw that much current!!!! I can't help thinking there must be a problem with the lighter device itself. It isn't a 6V lighter is it???? Double the voltage and you need double the current for a given resistance. Just double check that the chassis of the socket is grounded and the insulated terminal is the "hot" wire or 12V positive. It might be worthwhile getting another [12V] one and try that. Checked by AVG. 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Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of sidney raper Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:48 PM To: Regular Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Things that happen while I am out of town... I go out of town for a week and two Roadsters I know show up on eBay! Mark has his Zetec car on there (auction 180235120355 - link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Datsun-1600-1967-Datsun-Roadster-with- Z etec-Drivetrain-1600-2000_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ008QQitemZ1802 3 5120355QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ebayphotohosting) And a local 1965 1500 ( auction 190215488584 - link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190215488584) Both of these are fantastic cars. I am shocked that they are both CHEAP right now. Mark's car is a very nice custom that still looks stock to the untrained eye (until you pop the hood) while Erin's 1500 is as nice a 2 seat 1500 as you will find. It needs a radio and a driver. Man, I would love to have her car... Sidney Raper 1964 1500 (still a project.... sigh....) 1967 SRL311 00076 (alive again!) Jacksonville Florida http://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html _________________________________________________________________ Make i'm yours. Create a custom banner to support your cause. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Contribute/Default.aspx?source=TXT_TAGHM_MSN _ Make_IM_Yours You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 09:03:04 2008 From: "Jim Svedise" To: "Datsun Club" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:03:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Here are the pic's I took from Solvang 2008. Great show had a lot if fun. Thank you very much to all the vendors and people who helped to make it a great event. http://community.webshots.com/album/563239223zNNmNL Jim & Susan Svedise 70 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 09:07:36 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:09:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT Eyeglasses Well, my age has caught up with me and I have to wear glasses for near and far. Do any of you purchase your prescription glasses online; are you satisfied with them? If so, please let me know which online sites you use. Thank you! Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 10:52:13 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Jim Svedise" , "Datsun Club" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:52:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Thanks! Looks like a great time! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Svedise" To: "Datsun Club" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:03 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 > Here are the pic's I took from Solvang 2008. Great show had a lot if fun. > Thank you very much to all the vendors and people who helped to make it a > great event. > > > http://community.webshots.com/album/563239223zNNmNL > > Jim & Susan Svedise > 70 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 11:05:14 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:05:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Pics!! We had a blast at Solvang! This year we camped at the RV park in Buellton: Phil was also close by with his tent and roadster, I could hear his FJ warming up in the am :D Friday night we headed over to the gas station museum around 9pm and I saw/heard a silver roadster whiz by, it had a turbo!! I knew I couldn't sleep without seeing under the hood. It was a car Kevin Desirello made for a customer and it was simply CRAZY! Kevin gave me a ride and I was so overwhelmed I gave him a hug afterwards. THis is the fastest roadster I have been in, maybe in existence! -Eagle eyes will notice a "Spriso" mod with the intake/outlet piping through the fenders. In short, it has a S14SR20DET with a disco potato turbo, complete BOLT-in Ford 8.8. w disc brakes, Z32TT front brakes, fmic, injectors and a stereo system that made me feel like in was sitting in a Lexus. It hazed the tires in 1st, 2nd AND 3rd gears!!! Here's short video clip: ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34B0D6Ucats It blew my mind. Contact Kevin if you want one! On to the show, some highlights: -I finally saw the luche libre Panamerica race car: -Gary Wasserman's super-rare "purple" lightweight roadster: -Ron gave me a copy of his Hemmings magzine feature, I forgot to make him sign his autograph! -ed mason's recent, and brilliant 67.5 SRL completion: -Tim and Will Miner, 'nuf said: -new-style panasports -I enjoyed talking/meeting 311s folks in person, sorry If I missed your car I has serious heat exhaustion issues. I heard we had 80+ cars this year, thanks to Jeff T. and co. for putting on a great show!!! Enjoy the pics! http://rides.webshots.com/album/563234651HmkKBI ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 11:16:28 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:25:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Nice pictures. I like seeing not only the cars, but the atmosphere. I have added a link to these pictures to the Events page on datsun2000.com. Checking the links to other events I learned that the Great Race 100th anniversary New York To Paris race has been postponed due to the Chinese government recalling the permits for review. Currently this event is on hold. I also added dates and links for the UK and US Cannonball Run events. On a sadder note I also included a note announcing the demise of the Iron Bottom. I thank the organizers for their efforts over the last decade, and wish I had been able to participate before the good times came to an end. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jim Svedise Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:04 AM To: Datsun Club Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Here are the pic's I took from Solvang 2008. Great show had a lot if fun. Thank you very much to all the vendors and people who helped to make it a great event. http://community.webshots.com/album/563239223zNNmNL Jim & Susan Svedise 70 2000 You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 11:22:27 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Autox (E-mail)" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:22:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang pictures Here is a slide show from the weekend in Solvang from the eye of my camera. http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/563235222Wzlmix -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. ___________