From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 15:44:10 2008 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] caveat emptor hi everyone so i was looking forward to running the wheels and tires i won on eBay on my next track weekend in the roadster. they're R3S03s on 15 x 7 "Prime" rims. i was especially pleased that i was getting all 4 rims and tires for about $300 delivered. i really really need softer tires for track work. anywho, when the auction ended, the seller, andy, reneged on the deal. he changed his mind and tried to get me to take some 14 inch rims, with no tires, for $400 instead. his eBay seller name is "gofastauction." i left negative feedback saying just that. not much else to do, 'cept to warn y'all. be careful if you deal with this guy. steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 16:15:44 2008 From: Embarq Customer To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] caveat emptor You should lodge a complaint on EBAY. I have had several dead beat bidders and sellers removed from EBAY. ----- Original Message ----- From: steven boortz To: roadsters Sent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] caveat emptor hi everyone so i was looking forward to running the wheels and tires i won on eBay on my next track weekend in the roadster. they're R3S03s on 15 x 7 "Prime" rims. i was especially pleased that i was getting all 4 rims and tires for about $300 delivered. i really really need softer tires for track work. anywho, when the auction ended, the seller, andy, reneged on the deal. he changed his mind and tried to get me to take some 14 inch rims, with no tires, for $400 instead. his eBay seller name is "gofastauction." i left negative feedback saying just that. not much else to do, 'cept to warn y'all. be careful if you deal with this guy. steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 18:26:21 2008 From: "Fergus OFarrell" To: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:26:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Socal Fun Run pics, Vasquez Rocks not sure if this got posted, as I am on the digest version, which is a bit quirky (hey, just like me!) but these are the pics of the Socal fun run to Vasquez Rocks, which "starred" in many a Lone Ranger episode. from Chris Breyer: http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/563949905ehnIpH and from Tony Stockler: http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/563950553OiEkFV ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 19:09:24 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:09:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and the front tire off. My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten the nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do this if I can help it). The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage which goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam. New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains, beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses. I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures throughout the process. Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!! Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-) Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 19:12:29 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:12:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? They REALLY need pix of the parts for roadsters. I'm thinking flares! WooHoo! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:36 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? Has anybody bought any roadster pieces from these folks? http://www.prodbodies.com/datsun.html Paul Ohio You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 19:15:29 2008 From: "Mike Faggart" To: "Matthew A. Smith" , Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:19:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? isn't this where that funny curved wrench comes into play? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? > You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back > Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the > carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach > from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and > the front tire off. > > > > My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten > the > nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do > this if I can help it). > > > > The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out > of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage > which > goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down > onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam. > > > > New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains, > beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new > gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses. > > > > I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures > throughout > the process. > > > > Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!! > > > > Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-) > > > > Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN > > And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikef@carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 19:18:29 2008 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Fergus OFarrell , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Socal Fun Run pics, Vasquez Rocks Fergus, Great pictures! Enjoyed them a lot. Thanks. Gary (Looking forward to more Margaritas at Solvang next year.) ----- Original Message ---- From: Fergus OFarrell To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 7:26:18 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Socal Fun Run pics, Vasquez Rocks not sure if this got posted, as I am on the digest version, which is a bit quirky (hey, just like me!) but these are the pics of the Socal fun run to Vasquez Rocks, which "starred" in many a Lone Ranger episode. from Chris Breyer: http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/563949905ehnIpH and from Tony Stockler: http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/563950553OiEkFV ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 19:25:10 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:25:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? I usually use a yoga position called "embracing the carbs" for this. You're right, you can't really do it with either hand, BUT... If you lean over the engine from the carb side, run one hand behind the header tubes from the front of the engine and the other hand behind the header tubes from the back of the engine, you can pass an open-end wrench back and forth with your fingertips. I can't always get enough of a rotation on the nut to be able to pass it straight back and forth. Sometimes it requires reversing the wrench when passing it between hands. If you were clever enough to use the factory nuts that take the smaller 12mm wrench rather than the hardware store non-automotive nuts that take a 13mm wrench, you will be much happier. Kiss the cam cover while you're there - your engine will appreciate the gesture. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:10 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and the front tire off. My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten the nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do this if I can help it). The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage which goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam. New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains, beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses. I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures throughout the process. Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!! Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-) Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex) Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 19:26:23 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , "'Paul'" Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:26:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/Vest2.jpg Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:13 PM To: 'Paul'; 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? They REALLY need pix of the parts for roadsters. I'm thinking flares! WooHoo! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:36 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? Has anybody bought any roadster pieces from these folks? http://www.prodbodies.com/datsun.html Paul Ohio You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 19:38:47 2008 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Mike Faggart , "Matthew A. Smith" Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? With my SUs and a header on a U20, my problem is getting to the left (forward) nut on the #4 cylinder exhaust tube. I can't get a box-end wrench, nor an open-end wrench, on the %%$#@$^&* thing with enough purchase to get it off once is been on for a few years to save my life. Curved wrenches notwithstanding. Having the carbs off is essential. Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Faggart To: Matthew A. Smith ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 8:19:00 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? isn't this where that funny curved wrench comes into play? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? > You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back > Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the > carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach > from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and > the front tire off. > > > > My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten > the > nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do > this if I can help it). > > > > The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out > of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage > which > goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down > onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam. > > > > New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains, > beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new > gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses. > > > > I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures > throughout > the process. > > > > Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!! > > > > Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-) > > > > Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN > > And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikef@carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 20:23:16 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:20:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? That is the nut where I got stuck once. I thought I was going to have to gnaw my arm off like a raccoon in a trap. My cell phone was just far enough away that I couldn't reach it or I would have called inside the house to get my wife to come help. I worked it loose with minimal loss of flesh. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 20:45:24 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:45:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Grants Products To those on the list: I don't know to what extent you all may have an opportunity to deal with Grant Products -- the steering wheel people, among other things -- but I will tell you, if you have an opportunity, do so. They're great people. I have two old, out-of-prodution steering wheel adapters for early datsun roadsters. The contact plates which allow the horn pin on a standard roadster steering column to operate were no longer serviceable. One plate had come loose from the hub, and the other was worn, and no longer made good contact. Grants refurbished both of these hubs for me, at a very reasonable price. Most companies would have simply blown me off. After all, with my roadsters, I am not likely to be a customer for their current offerings of custom steering wheels. But they didn't. The service I received was an example of the best American companies have to offer. So, if you have the opportunity, work with them in confidence. Gary ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 20:47:30 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Andy Cost'" , Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:47:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? Also known as a "monkey-trap" or in this case, a "grease-monkey-trap." Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Cost Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:20 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? That is the nut where I got stuck once. I thought I was going to have to gnaw my arm off like a raccoon in a trap. My cell phone was just far enough away that I couldn't reach it or I would have called inside the house to get my wife to come help. I worked it loose with minimal loss of flesh. Andy Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 21:13:45 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Matthew A. Smith" , Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:10:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? A couple options for you are "S" wrenches or Half Moon Wrenches. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=hand&Group_ID=548&store=snapon-store http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=hand&Group_ID=550&store=snapon-store Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:09 PM Subject: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? > You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back > Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the > carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach > from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and > the front tire off. > > > > My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten > the > nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do > this if I can help it). > > > > The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out > of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage > which > goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down > onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam. > > > > New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains, > beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new > gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses. > > > > I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures > throughout > the process. > > > > Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!! > > > > Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-) > > > > Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN > > And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 1 22:28:35 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:25:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? There are about a million photos of my car with Japco glass on my webshots page. Word to the wise, it isn't streetable. It isn't high quality appearance wise either. There were tons of blemishes in my fenders. It is also much too thin and requires modification to bolt on. There are no provisions for headlights or turn signals. The rears require that you cut most of the rear sheet metal off. There are some photos of what it takes to mount these fenders on my webshots album. http://image66.webshots.com/666/3/48/78/2527348780065431685LJcCla_fs.jpg Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 04:30:50 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Gordon Glasgow'" , "'Matthew A. Smith'" Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:29:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? SCCA E Production rules allow some really wide wheels and tires. E Prod flares are huge. We had them on both race roadsters at Sloan Racing until we made our own bucks and fenders. We race in G Prod, or at least we have been. New rule changes are doing away with G Prod so I guess we'll be moving to F Prod soon. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Glasgow [mailto:gsglasgow@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:27 PM To: 'Matthew A. Smith'; 'Paul'; 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/Vest2.jpg Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:13 PM To: 'Paul'; 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? They REALLY need pix of the parts for roadsters. I'm thinking flares! WooHoo! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:36 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] Probodies fiberglass parts? Has anybody bought any roadster pieces from these folks? http://www.prodbodies.com/datsun.html Paul Ohio You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 04:33:50 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:33:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? Craftsman makes an open end wrench with an odd cut in one edge that allows you to rock it back and forth; almost like a ratchet. Combine that with Cathy Ann's small hands and that middle bolt comes off a lot easier. But then on the race cars we have the manifolds off a few times a year instead of once every 20 years. That and lots of JB Blaster! Paul Sloan Racing Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 05:15:33 2008 From: Tim To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 4:15:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? You don't with big I am guessing that my big hands (my wedding ring is a size 17 and the standard ring sizer only goes up to size 13!) I am never going to be able to do this bit myself if I get up the gumption to try it alone. Good thing my wife is a good sport, very mechanical, and would most likely try it for me. Her hands were small enough and the only way we could get the drain valve open under my compressor last week. The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"? Often lamenting big hands in Wisconsin, Tim ---- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: ============= Craftsman makes an open end wrench with an odd cut in one edge that allows you to rock it back and forth; almost like a ratchet. Combine that with Cathy Ann's small hands and that middle bolt comes off a lot easier. But then on the race cars we have the manifolds off a few times a year instead of once every 20 years. That and lots of JB Blaster! Paul Sloan Racing Ohio You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 05:52:23 2008 From: "Graeme" To: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:22:34 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? You don't with big The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"? I've got the same problem although my hands are not huge. Try sitting the compressor on a couple of house bricks to get more space around the drain valve. I've got one under each wheel and a slightly narrower one under the foot so the tank slopes towards the valve ; ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 06:06:04 2008 From: Tim To: Graeme , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 8:04:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut The problem with raising the compressor is that mine needs to be bolted to the floor as it is a 60 gallon tank and is a 240 volt hard wired unit. The bolts I used are long enough that I can raise it up about an inch and a half and then install a different drain valve that is easier to use. I may even put install a pipe coming out of the drain hole and run it out of the bottom of the base so I can get to it even easier. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Graeme wrote: ============= The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"? I've got the same problem although my hands are not huge. Try sitting the compressor on a couple of house bricks to get more space around the drain valve. I've got one under each wheel and a slightly narrower one under the foot so the tank slopes towards the valve ; ) You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 06:41:00 2008 From: Pat To: Tim Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:41:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut I also have a 60 gallon compressor, bolted to the floor. I added an electrically operated valve to the drain line and plumbed it outside. I planned on putting a timer on it that would allow the water to be drained each night, but haven't gotten that far yet. I just have a push button on the wall for now that I hit each time I think about it. Sure beats getting down on the floor to clear the tank! Peace, Pat Thusly spake Tim: > The problem with raising the compressor is that mine needs to be bolted to the floor as it is a 60 gallon tank and is a 240 volt hard wired unit. The bolts I used are long enough that I can raise it up about an inch and a half and then install a different drain valve that is easier to use. I may even put install a pipe coming out of the drain hole and run it out of the bottom of the base so I can get to it even easier. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Graeme wrote: > > ============= > The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger > tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"? > > I've got the same problem although my hands are not huge. > Try sitting the compressor on a couple of house bricks to get more space > around the drain valve. > I've got one under each wheel and a slightly narrower one under the foot so > the tank slopes towards the valve ; ) > You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1529 - Release Date: 7/1/2008 7:23 PM > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 07:29:24 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: Pat@HorneSystemstx.com, tputland@charter.net Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:29:35 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut At a garage sale a couple years ago I found an automatic valve to do that. It plumbs into the pressure relief port on the head and the drain. Every time the compressor starts or stops it goes POP and spits out water from the drain. I never see water coming out but I've got a big rust stain where it spits. keith In a message dated 7/2/2008 5:41:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com writes: I also have a 60 gallon compressor, bolted to the floor. I added an electrically operated valve to the drain line and plumbed it outside. I planned on putting a timer on it that would allow the water to be drained each night, but haven't gotten that far yet. I just have a push button on the wall for now that I hit each time I think about it. Sure beats getting down on the floor to clear the tank! Peace, Pat **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 07:44:37 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: matthews517@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:44:47 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? The general drill for installing the carbs and intake is: Install the manifold with out carbs and heat shield. This allows best access to the various nuts. Install the heat shield. Install the carbs. This seems like more work but getting to those bottom manifold nuts is such a pain with it all together. That and the annoying water and vacuum leaks from the manifold nuts being tightened unevenly. I've received cores with the heat shield totally mangled from trying to bend it out of the way to get to the bottom nuts. It only takes a minute to remove it. keith In a message dated 7/1/2008 6:10:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, matthews517@earthlink.net writes: You know the one. That nut behind the rear header tube, under the back Solex. It's too far to reach from the front, snaking your arm under the carbs. The starter is in the way to do it from below. I can't quite reach from under the inner fender and above the frame with the car jacked up and the front tire off. My only thought is to pull the carb(s) off the intake manifold, tighten the nuts, and re-assemble the carb(s) onto the manifold. (I don't want to do this if I can help it). The car is running INSANELY well, except for the cloud of steam coming out of the car when I punch it. Coolant is leaking from the water passage which goes from the head into the intake manifold, at the gasket. It sprays down onto (and into) the header and makes a LOT of steam. New head gasket, new valve seats, new valve seals, new timing chains, beautiful (if I do say so myself) yellow alternator and valve cover, new gaskets all over the place, new heater hoses, and new fuel hoses. I'll put up some of the pix AFTER she's done. I've taken pictures throughout the process. Dean. YOU ROCK!!!!! Hey, I got to buy $700 worth of new Craftsman tools too! :-) Matt (bloody knuckle) Smith, in TN And Loreli (She's a STEAMY hot 70 SRL Solex) You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 09:52:45 2008 From: Pat To: Keith0alan@aol.com Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:52:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut Keith, I've heard of these valves, but never seen one. I was told by a compressor repair fellow that they "were no good" because the air needs to cool in the tank before the water will condense out, but I figured that while that may be true, the next time the compressor runs it will get rid of that moisture, which is more often than most compressors get drained. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Keith0alan@aol.com: > At a garage sale a couple years ago I found an automatic valve to do > that. It plumbs into the pressure relief port on the head and the > drain. Every time the compressor starts or stops it goes POP and spits > out water from the drain. I never see water coming out but I've got a > big rust stain where it spits. > > keith > > In a message dated 7/2/2008 5:41:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com writes: > > I also have a 60 gallon compressor, bolted to the floor. I added an > electrically operated valve to the drain line and plumbed it > outside. I > planned on putting a timer on it that would allow the water to be > drained each night, but haven't gotten that far yet. I just have a > push > button on the wall for now that I hit each time I think about it. > Sure > beats getting down on the floor to clear the tank! > > Peace, > Pat > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used > cars . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1529 - Release Date: 7/1/2008 7:23 PM > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 15:21:43 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Tim" , "Graeme" , Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:13:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut Automatic valves to drain compressor tanks work OK, but are made to open and drain when you drain all the air out and the pressure drops to zero. I've used an air drain valve from an air brake system on a highway tractor. They are spring loaded lever action with a small length of wire rope on it so drivers don't have to climb under the truck to drain it. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Graeme" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:04 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut > The problem with raising the compressor is that mine needs to be bolted to > the floor as it is a 60 gallon tank and is a 240 volt hard wired unit. The > bolts I used are long enough that I can raise it up about an inch and a > half and then install a different drain valve that is easier to use. I may > even put install a pipe coming out of the drain hole and run it out of the > bottom of the base so I can get to it even easier. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Graeme wrote: > > ============= > The space under the compressor was so small I could barely get one finger > tip on the nut of the valve. Can you say "time to modify the drain valve"? > > I've got the same problem although my hands are not huge. > Try sitting the compressor on a couple of house bricks to get more space > around the drain valve. > I've got one under each wheel and a slightly narrower one under the foot > so > the tank slopes towards the valve ; ) > You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 20:06:52 2008 From: "dave" To: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:05:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? Years ago, first Roadster, in my parent's driveway in Suburbia, I was putting the manifold on, had both arms semi stuck under the manifold, face sideways on the valve cover....Who walks up and starts talking to me...Jehova's Witnesses. Talk about your captive audience. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Andy Cost [mailto:andycost@embarqmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:20 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you tighten that nut? That is the nut where I got stuck once. I thought I was going to have to gnaw my arm off like a raccoon in a trap. My cell phone was just far enough away that I couldn't reach it or I would have called inside the house to get my wife to come help. I worked it loose with minimal loss of flesh. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 20:15:38 2008 From: "dave" To: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:13:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut I'm surprised, I run the compressor for long periods sometimes, to the point of hot air coming out at 90 PSI and fogging up the glass bead cabinet, but I hardly get any water out of the drain. I'm surprised the thing didn't blow up last blasting session, 90+ deg ouitside. 3HP, 120 volt motor, pushing the limit. At least it's a belt drive, so it's quiet. Getting time for a big one. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Pat [mailto:Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:52 AM To: Keith0alan@aol.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut Keith, I've heard of these valves, but never seen one. I was told by a compressor repair fellow that they "were no good" because the air needs to cool in the tank before the water will condense out, but I figured that while that may be true, the next time the compressor runs it will get rid of that moisture, which is more often than most compressors get drained. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Keith0alan@aol.com: > At a garage sale a couple years ago I found an automatic valve to do > that. It plumbs into the pressure relief port on the head and the > drain. Every time the compressor starts or stops it goes POP and spits > out water from the drain. I never see water coming out but I've got a > big rust stain where it spits. > > keith > > In a message dated 7/2/2008 5:41:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com writes: > > I also have a 60 gallon compressor, bolted to the floor. I added an > electrically operated valve to the drain line and plumbed it > outside. I > planned on putting a timer on it that would allow the water to be > drained each night, but haven't gotten that far yet. I just have a > push > button on the wall for now that I hit each time I think about it. > Sure > beats getting down on the floor to clear the tank! > > Peace, > Pat > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used > cars . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1529 - Release Date: 7/1/2008 7:23 PM > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 21:09:57 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:01:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] car for sale http://www.ranteer.com/misc/ i apologize; this is totally off topic but i thought someone might be interested roadster content: if i get this car out of here i might get my 67 1600 up and going . . . ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 21:25:59 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: Pat@HorneSystemstx.com Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:26:13 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compressor mounting--was that hard to get to nut Mine is actually plumbed in to the big water trap rather than the tank. I get hardly any water in the tank but lots in the trap. Basically, if it's automatic and helps any at all it's a good thing. keith In a message dated 7/2/2008 8:59:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com writes: Keith, I've heard of these valves, but never seen one. I was told by a compressor repair fellow that they "were no good" because the air needs to cool in the tank before the water will condense out, but I figured that while that may be true, the next time the compressor runs it will get rid of that moisture, which is more often than most compressors get drained. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Keith0alan@aol.com: > At a garage sale a couple years ago I found an automatic valve to do > that. It plumbs into the pressure relief port on the head and the > drain. Every time the compressor starts or stops it goes POP and spits > out water from the drain. I never see water coming out but I've got a > big rust stain where it spits. > > keith > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 2 22:01:37 2008 From: "Mark Miller" To: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What I learned tonight Tonight I learned that the wheels I put on my roadster about 7 years ago use a different lug size (wrench side) than the stockers they replaced. If you always use the big lug nut wrench in the garage to take wheels on and off you learn this on the side of the road with a flat tire. Yup.. Jacked up the car, grabbed the lug wrench from the trunk, and it didn't fit. Oops. And the happy ending: called AAA and while waiting for the truck a friend saw me and pulled over. He had a 4 way lug wrench in the trunk. 5 minutes and back on the road. And the car didn't even fall off the stock jack! All in all a rather painless lesson. Followed by a lovely ride home. Wow, I like that car. Oh yeah, it's about to turn 200K km. Maybe I'll wash it. Naah. Mark Miller 69 RHD Fairlady 2000, w. solexes in need of a new air filter. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 3 11:24:25 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:24:20 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Reconditioned 69 rear side markers on eBay >From the Bluebirds list. I believe these are the same as for a 69 Roadster. Can someone confirm? Seller is reliable: Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Steve Boatman To: "bluebirds" , Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:44:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT; Princton, NJ Anybody near Princeton, NJ that would have time to look at a car (not a Datsun) for me? Just a walk around and a quick test drive before I find my way there and try to drive it back to Ohio. TIA, Paul ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 3 17:46:17 2008 From: kdrapidprint@psnw.com To: roadster list Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:45:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale Anybody out there interestered in a 61 310. Looks like the car is complete except for air filter and headlight rings. serial # is 000004 contact me if interested and I will send picures I can't show picture so contact me Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 3 17:55:38 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:55:46 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale Wouldn't a '61 be a SP212 or SP213? What's the VIN plate say? Pete "in laws=no wrenching" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: kdrapidprint@psnw.com > Anybody out there interested in a 61 310. > > Looks like the car is complete except for air filter and headlight rings. > > serial # is 000004 > > contact me if interested and I will send pictures > > I can't show picture so contact me > > Kerry Dehmel > Fresno, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 3 18:59:50 2008 From: BARTERDUDE@aol.com To: kdrapidprint@psnw.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:59:49 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale NIssan kept back the first 74 serial numbers and these were produced in 1964. The First roadster was 75 and the first 300 where single carbs and produced in 1963. Some were not sold and retrofited with dual carbs and stamped as 64 but they were produced in 1963. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1968 SRL311-11977 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 . In a message dated 7/3/2008 5:46:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, kdrapidprint@psnw.com writes: Anybody out there interestered in a 61 310. Looks like the car is complete except for air filter and headlight rings. serial # is 000004 contact me if interested and I will send picures I can't show picture so contact me Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA You are subscribed as barterdude@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 3 21:28:43 2008 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: BARTERDUDE@aol.com, kdrapidprint@psnw.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale I'm a little suspicious about the "I can't show picture" business. ----- Original Message ---- From: "BARTERDUDE@aol.com" To: kdrapidprint@psnw.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 7:59:49 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale NIssan kept back the first 74 serial numbers and these were produced in 1964. The First roadster was 75 and the first 300 where single carbs and produced in 1963. Some were not sold and retrofited with dual carbs and stamped as 64 but they were produced in 1963. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1968 SRL311-11977 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 . In a message dated 7/3/2008 5:46:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, kdrapidprint@psnw.com writes: Anybody out there interestered in a 61 310. Looks like the car is complete except for air filter and headlight rings. serial # is 000004 contact me if interested and I will send picures I can't show picture so contact me Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA You are subscribed as barterdude@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 3 23:08:08 2008 From: "Eric Gillis" To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" , Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:08:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale Please be careful about what is said when an offer like this is made. Kerry is very reputable, he, his family and the whole Fresno Group has been kind enough to put together the Solvang Roadster Show for many, many years (Thanks Jeff T for taking over!). He is a great guy to work with. Just because some of us lurk, doesn't mean we are shady. No harm, no foul, but let's not find our beloved roadster list 'offline' a la 311s.org due to flaming. Besides, no one can 'show pictures' on this list serv. They must be seen off this list, as Kerry stated in his first posting. Good luck with the sale, Kerry. I have an exploded R16 in my garage, so space is at a premium right now, but what a great project! Eric G ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us@autox.team.net on behalf of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Thu 7/3/2008 8:28 PM To: BARTERDUDE@aol.com; kdrapidprint@psnw.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale I'm a little suspicious about the "I can't show picture" business. ----- Original Message ---- From: "BARTERDUDE@aol.com" To: kdrapidprint@psnw.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 7:59:49 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale NIssan kept back the first 74 serial numbers and these were produced in 1964. The First roadster was 75 and the first 300 where single carbs and produced in 1963. Some were not sold and retrofited with dual carbs and stamped as 64 but they were produced in 1963. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1968 SRL311-11977 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 . In a message dated 7/3/2008 5:46:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, kdrapidprint@psnw.com writes: Anybody out there interestered in a 61 310. Looks like the car is complete except for air filter and headlight rings. serial # is 000004 contact me if interested and I will send picures I can't show picture so contact me Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA You are subscribed as barterdude@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as egillis@ceres.k12.ca.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 07:03:52 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 6:03:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: laptops--sorry for the OT Hi all. Please keep replies to this inquiry off list! If any one is interested in the input I get, let me know and I will forward them on to whomever. We will be buying a laptop this summer for my oldest to use when she goes to university this fall. I am seeking input, comments, (but no flaming please) etc from different people. We are asking neighbors, coworkers, etc. I figure this list is another great source of information. I have had dell, HP and gateway desk tops so I have my own opinions of these company's' DESKTOPS and am wondering who out there has experience with laptops. Pros, cons, etc. I am looking to not spend over $1000. We cannot buy a MAC as the school she is attending recommends not to so there are no compatibility issues. AGAIN: Please keep replies to this inquiry off list! If any one is interested in the input I get, let me know and I will forward them on to whomever. Time to go do the brakes on my truck. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 11:47:22 2008 From: Ritchie Labate To: Datsun Roadster blog Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going? Hi folks, Wondering if my starter is on the way out...symptoms: when I turn the key, 3 things can happen... 1. absolutely nothing, 2. a click and/or whirling sound without turning the engine or 3. the car starts no problem. If it is out, I'm thinking forklift replacement Nissan 23300-K9160(Mitsubishi M1T60081 or M1T60381). Any thoughts? Thanks! Ritchie Labate '68 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 11:58:16 2008 From: Ritchie Labate To: Datsun Roadster blog Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2 other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are connected and fine. These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper from + battery directly to the horn, it works. If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!! Happy 4th!!!! Ritchie '68 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 12:06:37 2008 From: Pat To: Ritchie Labate Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:01:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going? Ritchie, Sounds like you may have either a sticking bendix or starter solenoid, probably both. You can remove the solenoid with the starter in the car, but it isn't easy. I'd drop the starter out and take the solenoid off and check for gummed up grease. Same on the bendix. Both of these can be done without opening up the starter itself. Re-lube sparingly with thick, high temperature grease. Not much is needed. You can take the starter to an auto parts house for testing afterward. While the starter is out take a look at the teeth on the flywheel. Our engines usually come to a stop in one of 2 positions, so the ring gear gets worn more in these locations than the rest of the way around. If it is really worn you may need a new ring gear. An old trick it to press the ring gear off and turn it around so that the unworn side of the gear now engages the starter. Also, you can move the ring gear 90 degrees so that good teeth are in the location where worn teeth were. All of these require removing the flywheel. Ring gears used to be available at a decent price, but I haven't bought one in years. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Ritchie Labate: > Hi folks, > Wondering if my starter is on the way out...symptoms: when I turn > the key, 3 things can happen... 1. absolutely nothing, 2. a click and/or > whirling sound without turning the engine or 3. the car starts no problem. If > it is out, I'm thinking forklift replacement Nissan 23300-K9160(Mitsubishi > M1T60081 or M1T60381). Any thoughts? > Thanks! > Ritchie Labate > '68 2000 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 7:19 PM > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 12:06:50 2008 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:01:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going? Ritchie, Sounds like the starter relay and/or solenoid are going bad. The forklift starter is a good idea, as would be a gear-reduction starter. - Bob Mann '68 2000 Solex Ritchie Labate wrote: >Hi folks, >Wondering if my starter is on the way out...symptoms: when I turn >the key, 3 things can happen... 1. absolutely nothing, 2. a click and/or >whirling sound without turning the engine or 3. the car starts no problem. If >it is out, I'm thinking forklift replacement Nissan 23300-K9160(Mitsubishi >M1T60081 or M1T60381). Any thoughts? >Thanks! >Ritchie Labate >'68 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 12:07:00 2008 From: Pat To: Ritchie Labate Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:04:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights Could they be for the side marker light? See if there is another pair on the other front corner. I have a 67.5, so it wouldn't do to look at mine. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Ritchie Labate: > I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2 other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are connected and fine. These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper from + battery directly to the horn, it works. > If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!! > Happy 4th!!!! > Ritchie > '68 2000 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 7:19 PM > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 13:07:46 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:12:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Flywheel ring gear (was "RE: Starter gone or going?") Recently discussed on 311s.org. Still available from Nissan and Rockauto.com (Beck/Arnley part). Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:02 AM To: Ritchie Labate Cc: Datsun Roadster blog Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going? [snip] While the starter is out take a look at the teeth on the flywheel. Ring gears used to be available at a decent price, but I haven't bought one in years. Peace, Pat ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 13:19:28 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:23:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights I think Pat is correct. Black is generally a ground, and the green/white stripe generally is the power for various lighting sources on many 60's and 70's Datsuns. Horn is a completely separate circuit. Yes, you do have green/white stripe and black wires to the horn relay, then solid green from the relay to the horns, but there isn't a pair of them near both headlights. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:04 AM To: Ritchie Labate Cc: Datsun Roadster blog Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights Could they be for the side marker light? See if there is another pair on the other front corner. I have a 67.5, so it wouldn't do to look at mine. Peace, Pat -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ritchie Labate Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:58 AM To: Datsun Roadster blog Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2 other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are connected and fine. These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper from + battery directly to the horn, it works. If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!! Happy 4th!!!! Ritchie '68 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 13:45:09 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:49:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SPL212 for sale (was RE: SPL 310 for sale) Kerry had time to email me the pics he took with his cell phone, which is all he had when he came across the car before leaving town for Shasta. He will try to take better pics if anyone is interested when he returns home on July 14th. It appears to be a SP212. There was a pic of the VIN plate, but impossible to read from the cell phone pic. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kdrapidprint@psnw.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:46 PM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] SPL 310 for sale Anybody out there interestered in a 61 310. Looks like the car is complete except for air filter and headlight rings. serial # is 000004 contact me if interested and I will send picures I can't show picture so contact me Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 14:13:08 2008 From: kdrapidprint@psnw.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:13:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL212 for sale (was RE: SPL 310 for sale) To All Response was fast on the car - It is a 212 model and is sold. Thanks for the response Kerry ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 14:45:17 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Saga - Almost done! Well, I got in my backup set of carbs from Z Therapy. I have to say these guys are a class act. 1969 SRL 311 2000. The video is wonderful, the carbs beautiful. I put them in, set them up and she ran. I tuned her up and all went very easy. Except two things. More on the NEW problems in a minute. I did discover something wrong with the car. I had not removed the insulators the first time, because they were very securely glued to the mainfold. But this time I did. I found that some nimcompoop had not done it right many years ago. Part of one gasket between the insulator and the manifold was missing, and I expect that air leak was my problem in the past. I'd guess .005 x 1/2", enough to cause havoc, but be unseen. On the the LATEST problems. I put in the new ZTherapy carbs, and had no problem until I went to do the high speed synchronization. With the balanace screw REMOVED, the rear carb open first. There is no adjustment. I believe it is in correctly. I had to make a shim to take up the slop (about .030) in the front linkage interface to get them equal. That being done, the engine idling perfectly and a sappy smile on my face, I got in to run around the block. No problem until I gave it gas. Back fire through the carbs. If I baby it a bit, it is minor, and drivable, but who wants to baby a 2000? Not me. So I check the timing, 16 degrees just like datsunroadster said for my no smog dizzy. Perhaps the points are off, but I don't think that would cause this, I set the valve clearances perfectly last time. HELP! Anyone have any ideas? So near and yet still further. Jim Gammon New Jersey ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 14:53:44 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Ritchie Labate'" Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:53:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights You may be looking at the stock wiring for optional driving lights. Stick a meter on them and turn your headlight switch (Sorry, can't remember clockwise or counter clockwise.). If you register 12 volts, it's driving lights. If by pulling out the head light switch you see 12 volts, then it would be side marker lights. Some late '68's had side markers. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ritchie Labate Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:58 PM To: Datsun Roadster blog Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2 other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are connected and fine. These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper from + battery directly to the horn, it works. If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!! Happy 4th!!!! Ritchie '68 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 4 15:53:01 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:52:54 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb Saga - Almost done! In a message dated 7/4/2008 1:45:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com writes: I did discover something wrong with the car. I had not removed the insulators the first time, because they were very securely glued to the mainfold. But this time I did. I found that some nimcompoop had not done it right many years ago. Part of one gasket between the insulator and the manifold was missing, and I expect that air leak was my problem in the past. I'd guess .005 x 1/2", enough to cause havoc, but be unseen. Better than great globs of gasket goo. Those gaskets are part of the insulator so they are not available from Nissan seperately. Not a problem though, cut one out of regular gasket paper. Here's what I do. Use an exacto knife and carefully scrape the old gasket off. Once the bleeding stops I buff the insulators with compound and a cloth wheel. Folks keep asking where I find new insulators. On the the LATEST problems. I put in the new ZTherapy carbs, and had no problem until I went to do the high speed synchronization. With the balanace screw REMOVED, the rear carb open first. There is no adjustment. I believe it is in correctly. I had to make a shim to take up the slop (about .030) in the front linkage interface to get them equal. Not Ztherapys fault. The tabs that link this together are so commonly bent that I'm not at all surprised that you had this problem. Often I'll need to tweek them on the bench. If you study the linkage you should be able to see where one or more are not quite square. A little bend and you should be good to go. That's one benefit that I have selling the manifold and carbs as a set, I can do a check for that on the bench. keith "packing the ice cream maker, carb stuff, and heading for shasta" williams **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 5 14:41:02 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Ritchie Labate" , "Datsun Roadster blog" Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:41:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going? Ritchie, I'd go for easier possibilities first. The symptoms you describes can result from a poor connection somewhere in the electrical circuit -- even within the battery itself -- resulting in low voltage at the starter. Trace the starter ciruit, and make sure all connections are clean and sound. Make sure the ground cable from the starter housing to the frame is present and connections are clean. Take the battery to a reputable shop and have it load tested. (I once had a problem with my '97 Jimmy similar to your problem. Turns out the problem was a connection internal to the battery which sometimes worked, and other times did not. The security system, sensing that someone had tampered with the battery, would not allow the car to start. I learned this AFTER I had the security system -- an aftermarket item -- removed.) If none of the above finds the cause of the problem, you're only out your time. And then you get to go after the harder stuff. I've seen more cars, particularly multi-owner vehicles, with battery and ground problems than with starter solenoid problems. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ritchie Labate" To: "Datsun Roadster blog" Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Starter gone or going? > Hi folks, > Wondering if my starter is on the way out...symptoms: when I turn > the key, 3 things can happen... 1. absolutely nothing, 2. a click and/or > whirling sound without turning the engine or 3. the car starts no problem. > If > it is out, I'm thinking forklift replacement Nissan 23300-K9160(Mitsubishi > M1T60081 or M1T60381). Any thoughts? > Thanks! > Ritchie Labate > '68 2000 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 5 15:13:10 2008 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" , Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:13:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Grants Products I was going to ask how to get a hold of the folks at Grants, however when I hit Reply to all I found you copied Joey Ferrari at Grant Products. Thank you, I'll write him off line. Walt Peterson Still Burning in Goleta. http://www.countyofsb.org/ceo/gis/gapfire/EvacAreasWeb_070408_18x24.pdf -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:46 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Cc: Joey Ferrari Subject: [Roadsters] Grants Products To those on the list: I don't know to what extent you all may have an opportunity to deal with Grant Products -- the steering wheel people, among other things -- but I will tell you, if you have an opportunity, do so. They're great people. I have two old, out-of-prodution steering wheel adapters for early datsun roadsters. The contact plates which allow the horn pin on a standard roadster steering column to operate were no longer serviceable. One plate had come loose from the hub, and the other was worn, and no longer made good contact. Grants refurbished both of these hubs for me, at a very reasonable price. Most companies would have simply blown me off. After all, with my roadsters, I am not likely to be a customer for their current offerings of custom steering wheels. But they didn't. The service I received was an example of the best American companies have to offer. So, if you have the opportunity, work with them in confidence. Gary You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 5 18:01:12 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:00:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '68 with side markers? Anybody have some photos of a '68 roadster with side marker lights? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 5 21:33:28 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb Saga - Almost done! OK, well, I understand the rear carb may be supposed to open sooner, but it is does, no air flow can ever be set. It is imbalanced. So I agree with keith that the linkage must need a little bend. As far as the mixture, I will try richening it. The valve timing I checked three times, so I think I got it right. The dizzy is a no smog, the cam is stock 69. If this a problem? I don't see how, unless the dizzy if firing too soon. It could also perhaps be the gas, it is two years old. I'll try retarding the dizzy, replacing the gas and richening. Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 6 09:53:37 2008 From: RoadsterGB@aol.com To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:35:25 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - latest image of the month ... ... is a small but interesting piece of memorabilia which ties the roadster into the musical it was named after a few years before - enjoy. _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) Further updates coming soon and greetings from England - Rob (http://www.datsun.org.fairlady/) (http://www.datsun.org.fairlady) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 6 11:56:22 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Carb Problems are OVER I would like to proudly announce the rebirth of a 1969 SRL-311 2000cc roadster. It will take a lot to whipe this grin off my face. It was the fuel. I drained out as much as I could and put in 2.5 gallons of premium. I took her around the block. At first, no better, then she stopped spitting and coughing as much. (Backfire through the carbs and exhaust) She seemed to smooth out. I chanced the main road, 35 mph speed limit. I had to coax her up to speed, no more than 2500 rpm, low load. But she smoothed out more, and I poked the throttle, no cough, no spit. I downshifted and gave her a little gas, she responded like a Datsun for the first time. I slowed to 25 and gave her the gun, she revved up to 65 no problem at 5000 rpm or so. Don't ask me about gears,I don't recall. I was zoned out. Knowing 65 is too darn fast in a 35 zone, and that the engine needs to break in, I quickly resumed proper speeds. She positively purrs. I filled the tank, and drove home. It may be raining on and off, cloudy and humid, but it is a beautiful day. My thanks to all who helped, but it was an old boat mechanic relative who listened to the symptoms and said "Bad gas". He sees old gas problems all the time in the pleasure boat business. FYI, stock cam 69 2000, with no-smog distributor, 16 degrees advance. Completely rebuilt from hot tanked block on up. Stans chains, ZTherapy carbs, tubing headers, previous owner's exhaust (that is restrictive), rebuilt trans, new front suspension. Needs new rear, have one in the box. (old one has a slight whine) Now I work on the interior and exterior, not bad. (grin) Proud Pappa Jim Gammon Manaquan, NJ 1969 SRL-311 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 6 19:16:38 2008 From: cjs37@juno.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:14:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] oil gauge Question: I have a l970 2000 Roadster, when I took her for a drive the other day the oil gauge went to O then up and back down and stayed down, I recently had the oil changed and it's clean on the dip stick. Does anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks, Katy cjs37@juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for more info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtaOyP7TULJ37Nxrb0wrQbyKRIgPBYXe9oxIM9atlJNCwW/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 6 21:33:11 2008 From: Dan Zubkoff To: cjs37@juno.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil gauge It is normal for the oil gauge to go up and down, depending on the rev'ving of the engine. However, at idle there should still be some oil pressure (more than zero). Now, with an old roadster gauges, things may not be accurate. When you start the engine (after it is cold), does it show any oil pressure? If it does, there is a good chance your oil change place used a very thin oil , as prescribed on newer cars (5/20). Not the best to use on old roadsters.You may wish to try a thicker oil (maybe a straight 30 Weight , or even 20/50). Your oil pressure should increase using a thicker oil. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX cjs37@juno.com wrote: Question: I have a l970 2000 Roadster, when I took her for a drive the other day the oil gauge went to O then up and back down and stayed down, I recently had the oil changed and it's clean on the dip stick. Does anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks, Katy cjs37@juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for more info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtaOyP7TULJ37Nxrb0wrQbyKRIgPBYXe9oxIM9atlJNCwW/ You are subscribed as zubkoff@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 6 21:49:16 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:40:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Going finally, I hope. Broke 4/20/08 1. Cleaned injectors 2. New fuel lines 3. New fuel pump 4. New ECU 5. New daughterboard in ECU 6. Whole bunch of tuning on the laptop 7. New fuel injectors 8. New injector o-rings 9. New mass air sensor 10. New spark plugs 11. Reversed rectal cranial inversion 12. Problem solved It all started when the fuel line dissolved and coated my injectors and everything else in goo. The thing just wouldn't run right after that. Nothing I tried would seem to help. In the end it was a combination of problems. Mostly there was a bad MAF sensor that probably went bad when my water/methanol system screwed up and sprayed into the MAF. I replaced it but the car still ran poorly. One o-ring was filling the motor with gasoline pretty fast. The last thing I figured out was that I had two plug wires swapped. Once I got the new MAF, new o-ring, and firing order correct the car ran like a top. I had most of the other parts so I'm not out a bunch of money. The new daughterboard was on loan from it's creator and will be on it's way back to OZ next week. I missed a few races and did poorly in the ones I limped through. Hopefully the bugs are out of the system now. I've got to figure out a better place for the water/meth spray. It is too close to the MAF currently. Later, Andy http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2681726230065431685IKYrEh ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 6 23:19:06 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:19:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil gauge Katy, I think your oil pressure gauge is mechanical like the '68s and '69s, that is, it operates directly off the engine oil gallery. The tap is on the right side of the engine, just above the joint with the oil pan. A flexible line runs from the tap to a point on the frame, where a solid tube leads to the oil pressure gauge. Check for leaks at the connections, and check the flexible portion of the line carefully. Battery leakage (if the tray is absent) can rot the flexible line, and lead to failure. Bad things follow as the engine loses oil. If the oil pan is still full per the dipstick, and there are no major leaks, we need more information. As Dan asked, how does the gauge respond when the engine is cold? Pressure good? If so, it's probably not anything serious with the motor. It could be a blockage in the oil pressure sensing line or the gauge itself. There is virtually no flow in the sensing line, so I think a line blockage is unlikely. It could be a weakness in the oil pressure relief valve in the oil pump discharge. Since my early car's gauge is electrical, so I have nothing better to offer than some possibilities. I hope you hear from others on the list. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: [Roadsters] oil gauge > Question: I have a l970 2000 Roadster, when I took her for a drive the > other day the oil gauge went to O then up and back down and stayed down, > I recently had the oil changed and it's clean on the dip stick. Does > anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks, Katy cjs37@juno.com > ____________________________________________________________ > Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for > more info. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtaOyP7TULJ37Nxrb0wrQbyKRIgPBYXe9oxIM9atlJNCwW/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 6 23:29:41 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: andycost@embarqmail.com Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 05:28:09 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Going finally, I hope. Before fix: "I love this hobbie!" (Under breath... "#$&%ing car... piece of crap... you had better run right or else... OW! That's my finger, now with no meat on the knuckle thank you very F'n much! Oh, so that's how it's gonna be huh? You wanna fight me... do ya! HUH! ZAP! OW! OK, better disconnect that damn battery... piece of crap... you had damn well better run right after all this...") After she's back together and purring: "I love this hobbie!" (Under breath... "Please baby, please don't break. I promise I will always love you... you be good to me; I'll be good to you. I LOVE you.... oh crap, was that a stumble...?") Glad she is back together Andy... go get em! Greg "been there" Burrows -- "Andy Cost" wrote: Broke 4/20/08 1. Cleaned injectors 2. New fuel lines 3. New fuel pump 4. New ECU 5. New daughterboard in ECU 6. Whole bunch of tuning on the laptop 7. New fuel injectors 8. New injector o-rings 9. New mass air sensor 10. New spark plugs 11. Reversed rectal cranial inversion 12. Problem solved It all started when the fuel line dissolved and coated my injectors and everything else in goo. The thing just wouldn't run right after that. Nothing I tried would seem to help. In the end it was a combination of problems. Mostly there was a bad MAF sensor that probably went bad when my water/methanol system screwed up and sprayed into the MAF. I replaced it but the car still ran poorly. One o-ring was filling the motor with gasoline pretty fast. The last thing I figured out was that I had two plug wires swapped. Once I got the new MAF, new o-ring, and firing order correct the car ran like a top. I had most of the other parts so I'm not out a bunch of money. The new daughterboard was on loan from it's creator and will be on it's way back to OZ next week. I missed a few races and did poorly in the ones I limped through. Hopefully the bugs are out of the system now. I've got to figure out a better place for the water/meth spray. It is too close to the MAF currently. Later, Andy ____________________________________________________________ Hit it out of the park with a new bat. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4u0wjDEOfw4Ebuvg2Xq35TBT bOlC59ndE4e1fSThXxHbdgzE/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 04:40:39 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 06:40:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Going finally, I hope. Okay, where did you hide the recorder in my garage? Finally had some time this weekend and got my KA24E roadster out for a ride. Amazing what a set of Kumo 758s in place of 11 year old Kelly passenger tires will do. Still need to find a good mirror for the door (Knocked off the mirror last winter in the garage. Glad the recorder missed that episode!). Runs a bit warm so I think a radiator flush is in order soon. Paul Ohio BTDT -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net Before fix: "I love this hobbie!" (Under breath... "#$&%ing car... piece of crap... you had better run right or else... OW! That's my finger, now with no meat on the knuckle thank you very F'n much! Oh, so that's how it's gonna be huh? You wanna fight me... do ya! HUH! ZAP! OW! OK, better disconnect that damn battery... piece of crap... you had damn well better run right after all this...") After she's back together and purring: "I love this hobbie!" (Under breath... "Please baby, please don't break. I promise I will always love you... you be good to me; I'll be good to you. I LOVE you.... oh crap, was that a stumble...?") Glad she is back together Andy... go get em! Greg "been there" Burrows ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 09:19:36 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Low screen 1600 at CarsnCoffee, Irvine this weekend Pics from weekly (Irvine, CA) car show, I see a low screen 1600, in silver. Not a car I recognize, anyone here? (gotta scroll down a ways) http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=904 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 09:35:43 2008 From: racery@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:35:57 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] '68 with side markers You mean, like this? http://home.comcast.net/~racery/'68%20roadster.jpg The story is, though, that when I bought the car it had one '68 fender and one '69 fender. Since I didn't have the side chrome, I figured it needed something- so I added the front markers. There aren't any on the back... Toby Seattle >Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:00:28 -0400 >Anybody have some photos of a '68 roadster with side marker lights? >Paul >Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 11:17:22 2008 From: "Brian St. Jacques" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, "Ritchie Labate" Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:17:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights I combed through my '68 wiring a little while back before removing the body from the frame. I think I found the same wires and determined they matched the '69 diagram for the side markers. I vaguely recall my '68 also had some differences with either the alternator plug or headlight relay that matched something other than the '68 wiring diagram. Brian -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:53 PM To: 'Ritchie Labate' Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights You may be looking at the stock wiring for optional driving lights. Stick a meter on them and turn your headlight switch (Sorry, can't remember clockwise or counter clockwise.). If you register 12 volts, it's driving lights. If by pulling out the head light switch you see 12 volts, then it would be side marker lights. Some late '68's had side markers. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ritchie Labate Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:58 PM To: Datsun Roadster blog Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2 other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are connected and fine. These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper from + battery directly to the horn, it works. If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!! Happy 4th!!!! Ritchie '68 2000 You are subscribed as bstjacques@atrua.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 11:19:35 2008 From: To: roadster list list Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:19:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 68 1600 for sale in eastern WA http://wenatchee.craigslist.org/car/744078934.html http://www.mygoodstuff4sale.com/GalleryFilmstrip.aspx?gallery=89595&photo=290 9239 Don't know this car. Just saw it on my local craigslist. There aren't many roadsters in my area and I haven't seen this one before so I have no idea the history or anything. I can look at it if anyone wants. Again, I don't know the seller or this car, but just thought I'd pass this along. There are pictures on the second link. Seems kind of pricey for the condition it's in. Allen 1970 2000 w/solex's that badly needs body work Wenatchee, WA _________________________________________________________________ The im Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 13:18:05 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:18:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68 1600 for sale in eastern WA Same car that was for sale a few weeks ago before the owner moved (from Nevada? Arizona?) -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: > http://wenatchee.craigslist.org/car/744078934.html > > http://www.mygoodstuff4sale.com/GalleryFilmstrip.aspx?gallery=89595&photo=290 > 9239 > > Don't know this car. Just saw it on my local craigslist. There aren't many > roadsters in my area and I haven't seen this one before so I have no idea the > history or anything. I can look at it if anyone wants. Again, I don't know > the seller or this car, but just thought I'd pass this along. There are > pictures on the second link. Seems kind of pricey for the condition it's in. > > Allen > 1970 2000 w/solex's that badly needs body work > Wenatchee, WA > _________________________________________________________________ > The im Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? > http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 15:48:21 2008 From: Hoon Kim To: Roadster mailist Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:47:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] counter gear busted in 4 speed transmission So I finally had some free time to tinker around my spare transmission and finally found out what was wrong with it. It is a 4 speed, I believe a servo style transmission and the 1st gear on the counter gear is busted. All the other gears seemed to be fine. Now, the transmission that is on my car currently I think has a bad counter shaft. Now the question is: A) Is it possible for me to either take out the counter gear from my installed transmission and put into my disassembled one (granted that they are both servo style) without taking out the transmission in the car? or B) same situation but replace the counter shaft in the current car instead or C) take out the transmission and frankenstein a clean transmission between the both of them? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! hoon early '67 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 16:26:50 2008 From: Pat To: Hoon Kim Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:26:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] counter gear busted in 4 speed transmission Hoon, As I recall the counter shaft slides out the front of the transmission. I doubt there is enough clearance in the clutch housing to allow this to happen while the trans is still mounted. It's bee years since I rebuilt my trans, and I can't remember what held the counter shaft in. I'm thinking it is the bell housing bolted to the front of the trans, but I can't remember for sure. I vote for "C". There are thrust washers on each end of the counter shaft (I think). They come in different thicknesses to allow for adjusting the end play on the shaft. Hopefully someone else will have a better memory than me! Peace, Pat Thusly spake Hoon Kim: > So I finally had some free time to tinker around my spare > transmission and finally found out what was wrong with it. > > It is a 4 speed, I believe a servo style transmission and the 1st > gear on the counter gear is busted. All the other gears seemed to be > fine. > > Now, the transmission that is on my car currently I think has a bad > counter shaft. Now the question is: > > A) > Is it possible for me to either take out the counter gear from my > installed transmission and put into my disassembled one (granted that > they are both servo style) without taking out the transmission in the > car? > > or B) > > same situation but replace the counter shaft in the current car instead > > or C) > > take out the transmission and frankenstein a clean transmission > between the both of them? > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! > > hoon > > early '67 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1539 - Release Date: 7/7/2008 6:35 PM > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 16:27:22 2008 From: Ritchie Labate To: "Brian St. Jacques" , Paul Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights Thanks Brian and Paul, I appreciate the help. ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian St. Jacques To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>; Ritchie Labate Cc: datsun-roadsters Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 10:17:41 AM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights I combed through my '68 wiring a little while back before removing the body from the frame. I think I found the same wires and determined they matched the '69 diagram for the side markers. I vaguely recall my '68 also had some differences with either the alternator plug or headlight relay that matched something other than the '68 wiring diagram. Brian -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:53 PM To: 'Ritchie Labate' Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights You may be looking at the stock wiring for optional driving lights. Stick a meter on them and turn your headlight switch (Sorry, can't remember clockwise or counter clockwise.). If you register 12 volts, it's driving lights. If by pulling out the head light switch you see 12 volts, then it would be side marker lights. Some late '68's had side markers. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ritchie Labate Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:58 PM To: Datsun Roadster blog Subject: [Roadsters] Mystery wires by headlights I have a '68 2000 with color wiring diagram available. I'm trying to determine a pair a wires under the hood located by the left and right headlights coming out of the harness with the others. I have identified 2 other pairs not attached to anything as the foglights which I do not have (red/green stripe and black). The ones I need help with are green/white stripe and black. My headlights and turn signals are connected and fine. These pairs are not attached to anything. The only other symptom elsewhere is that my horn doesnt work but I'm thinking its under the Grant steering wheel as the problem. Maybe not?? If I connect a jumper from + battery directly to the horn, it works. If someone has a chance to peek under their hood and see if they have these wires connected to anything, that would be awesome!! Happy 4th!!!! Ritchie '68 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as bstjacques@atrua.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 20:46:39 2008 From: Charles Kyle To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:46:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items Good Evening, Well my Datsun is finally making its way up and down the streets. It has been a long time coming and for a rolling restoration it looks pretty good. We are having a very small car show this weekend and I was thinking about at least parking it there just for conversation if nothing else. What I am looking for is anything that I could have printed and laminated (like at Kinko9s) to place on on the window and under the hood. Something like a copy of an original invoice, spec sheet, anything that would display well. Anyone have anything that they would not mind scanning and emailing me in a jpeg or gif? Thanks in advance. -- V/r Chuck Chuck Kyle Hm 512-225-4501 email: Work - charles.kyle@us.army.mil Home - chuck@chuckkyle.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 20:58:14 2008 From: Charles Kyle To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:58:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items Good Evening, Well my Datsun is finally making its way up and down the streets. It has been a long time coming and for a rolling restoration it looks pretty good. We are having a very small car show this weekend and I was thinking about at least parking it there just for conversation if nothing else. What I am looking for is anything that I could have printed and laminated (like at Kinko9s) to place on on the window and under the hood. Something like a copy of an original invoice, spec sheet, anything that would display well. Anyone have anything that they would not mind scanning and emailing me in a jpeg or gif? Thanks in advance. -- V/r Chuck Chuck Kyle Hm 512-225-4501 email: Work - charles.kyle@us.army.mil Home - chuck@chuckkyle.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 21:27:12 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Charles Kyle'" , Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:57:10 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items Hi Chuck, I have uploaded pics. Of my modest brochure collection for the community to share. Have a look here: - http://tinyurl.com/6datgo You are welcome to use any of them. Email me if you want the original scans, they will be big but better quality. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles Kyle Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2008 12:17 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items Good Evening, Well my Datsun is finally making its way up and down the streets. It has been a long time coming and for a rolling restoration it looks pretty good. We are having a very small car show this weekend and I was thinking about at least parking it there just for conversation if nothing else. What I am looking for is anything that I could have printed and laminated (like at Kinko9s) to place on on the window and under the hood. Something like a copy of an original invoice, spec sheet, anything that would display well. Anyone have anything that they would not mind scanning and emailing me in a jpeg or gif? Thanks in advance. -- V/r Chuck Chuck Kyle Hm 512-225-4501 email: Work - charles.kyle@us.army.mil Home - chuck@chuckkyle.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 21:42:30 2008 From: Charles Kyle To: Charles Kyle , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:42:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Invoice or other display items Oh I forgot: 1968 Dat Road 1600 Chuck On 7/7/08 9:58 PM, "Charles Kyle" wrote: > Good Evening, > > Well my Datsun is finally making its way up and down the streets. It has > been a long time coming and for a rolling restoration it looks pretty good. > We are having a very small car show this weekend and I was thinking about at > least parking it there just for conversation if nothing else. What I am > looking for is anything that I could have printed and laminated (like at > Kinko9s) to place on on the window and under the hood. Something like a > copy of an original invoice, spec sheet, anything that would display well. > Anyone have anything that they would not mind scanning and emailing me in a > jpeg or gif? > > Thanks in advance. > -- > > V/r > > Chuck > > > Chuck Kyle > Hm 512-225-4501 > > email: > Work - charles.kyle@us.army.mil > Home - chuck@chuckkyle.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as chuck@chuckkyle.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 7 22:11:40 2008 From: Gary tew To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox.Team.Net" Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:11:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster article in Phoenix paper There was a nice article in the Phoenix Sunday paper showing Michael Manna's restored '66 1600. Is he a list member? Nice looking car and cool to see our cars in "mainstream" media. Now if it weren't 110 outside, I'd drive mine over to Scottsdale and check it out first hand. Maybe in October! Drive on. Gary Tew '67 1600 VG30 Peoria, AZ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 8 01:43:52 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 00:45:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Open seat to Shasta I expect to be leaving for Shasta Friday morning, or maybe Thursday. If there is someone looking to go down at the last minute I have a spare dinner ticket that will not be used and would consider sharing a room, as yet unreserved. Get back to me offline if you are looking for a ride down. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 8 05:37:37 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 4:37:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Laptops--THANKS! Just a quick note to say thanks to everyone who responded. I have loads of info to consider now. A couple of you said get a MAC anyway. I will buy a MAC for the house next time I buy a computer--had planned on that any way, but the school where my daughter will be going said not to as they have known compatibility issues and want to save headaches. Thanks again to everyone who replied!!!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 8 16:54:27 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: , Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:54:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil gauge Hi Katy, Loreli has once had the same problem. Her issue was easy to see. It WAS a leak in the oil line. Yes, a 70 2000 has a mechanical gauge and the line, though it doesn't hold a lot of oil, is under pretty high pressure. It doesn't take long for all your oil to be on the ground behind you. As I recall, I got about 1 mile per quart. OUCH It is fairly easy to verify if your problem is a pressure issue or a gauge issue. Find that hose! It's right next to the base of the distributor, coming out of the block. Locate the other end and disconnect it. Put a rag under the end of the hose and fire the car up. Blip the throttle once, to get full pressure and turn it off quick (unless you have a spare quart of oil and don't mind puddles on the ground). :-) If you have a bunch of oil in your rag, it's likely the gauge. (or at least between the hose and the gauge). Bend the hose, look for ANY cracks. If you have them, replace it now. Don't wait. Frankly, I'd say if you don't know how old it is, replace it anyway. Start checking the steel lines for a kink. Believe me, this is the preferable of the two outcomes of the test, even though that hose is expensive as hell. After I paid about $90 for my new hose, I realized that's less than $2.50 per year of life out of the hose, so I felt better about it. You CAN snake out the steel line with some bicycle shifter cable, or the sort. Keep in mind that if there's crud in there, you're going to push much of the crud toward the gauge, but it's MUCH easier than disconnecting the gauge and pushing it the other way. You'd basically be doing angioplasty on your car. HAHAHAHAHA! Guess that would make you a CARdiologist. (sorry) The other outcome likely requires an oil pump, oil pan gasket, and more new oil (at the bare minimum). Either way, find out BEFORE going for a drive again. PLEASE! Engines are MUCH more expensive than either of the two other possibilities! Matt Smith (Hixson, TN) And Loreli (She's a Silver 70' Solex) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cjs37@juno.com Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:15 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] oil gauge Question: I have a l970 2000 Roadster, when I took her for a drive the other day the oil gauge went to O then up and back down and stayed down, I recently had the oil changed and it's clean on the dip stick. Does anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks, Katy cjs37@juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for more info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtaOyP7TULJ37Nxrb0wrQbyK RIgPBYXe9oxIM9atlJNCwW/ You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 8 19:10:47 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:10:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 311s Forum For those that click their bookmark to get to the 311s forum rather than going through the homepage. There have been a couple of us doing it so I am posting here. http://311s.org/phpBB3/index.php ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 9 14:05:57 2008 From: Steve Adleman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:05:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 parts Hi All I was cleaning up my parents basement and found a speaker box and a beat up chrome headlight bezel for my '69 1600 I used to own. the original speaker was replaced with a calrad speaker with big magnet, the chrome trim ring is bent up, but possibly usable. anyone interested contact me off list. best Steve Adleman ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 9 21:50:12 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:50:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Head Porting Thought some of you might be interested in an article in the July issue of Classic Motorsports in which they build up an1800cc MGB engine. The most interesting point (to me) that they make is this: "....before the upgrades, our high compression ratio required premium unleaded fuel that still left us with pinging problems. After the upgrades, we could run unleaded regular on all but the hottest summer days without a single ping. We attribute this gain to the porting, especially of the restrictive exhaust ports. We've seen this time and again with B series engines - a well ported head gets the heat out of the combustion chamber faster and keeps preignition and detonation at bay." Our engines are, aside from 8 ports rather than 5, quite similar in design, with restrictive exhaust ports. There are 3 reasons to clean up those exhaust ports - more power, less detonation, and a cooler running engine. Now to be fair, part of the reason, I think, for having less detonation is that the longer duration cam will also reduce the effective compression ratio. And something that really bothers me, after spending nearly $2,000 on a cam, lifters, cam gears, porting gaskets etc. they gained only 14 hp at the wheels! Up from 64 to 78........ My hopes of getting 100 hp at the wheels of my 1800cc stroker are looking pretty damn slim....... :-( Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 10 04:50:30 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:50:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Head Porting And something that really bothers me, after spending nearly $2,000 on a cam, lifters, cam gears, porting gaskets etc. they gained only 14 hp at the wheels! Up from 64 to 78........ My hopes of getting 100 hp at the wheels of my 1800cc stroker are looking pretty damn slim....... :-( Daryl ------------------------------------------------- Wouldn't a 14hp gain on a MGB motor be better than 15% gain? That sounds pretty good to me. What engine did you stroke to 1800cc? I would think 100hp at the wheels would be possible. Might not idle well, but ..... Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 10 09:00:09 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: drlsmith@dccnet.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:59:40 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Head Porting In a message dated 7/9/2008 8:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, drlsmith@dccnet.com writes: Now to be fair, part of the reason, I think, for having less detonation is that the longer duration cam will also reduce the effective compression ratio. And something that really bothers me, after spending nearly $2,000 on a cam, lifters, cam gears, porting gaskets etc. they gained only 14 hp at the wheels! Up from 64 to 78........ My hopes of getting 100 hp at the wheels of my 1800cc stroker are looking pretty damn slim....... :-( Daryl A longer duration cam will lower the effective compression ratio. I think I might have milled the head a bit to pick the compression back up into the premimum range. Also, torque is generated by combustion chamber pressure, HP is generated by RPM. You can increase chamber pressure to increase torque and bump HP some but the real HP increase comes from higher RPM. Rather than the stock 6000 RPM, build the engine to do 8000 RPM. With no increase in chamber pressure you will pick up 1/3 more HP. This sounds simple however there is a lot that goes into moving the peak of the torque curve from 6000 to 8000. Cam, port sizes, balancing, strong rods, oiling and on and on. If you do the port and cam to peak at 8000 rpm then only run to 6000 rpm you have wasted a lot of time and money. You will see some gains but not nearly what you could. Enough rambling for early in the morning. keith **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 10 09:33:51 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , , Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:33:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Head Porting Not sure what motor he started with, but it might be tough to keep a 'stroked' motor together at 8000 rpms. Think piston speed. Paul Ohio -------------------------------- A longer duration cam will lower the effective compression ratio. I think I might have milled the head a bit to pick the compression back up into the premimum range. Also, torque is generated by combustion chamber pressure, HP is generated by RPM. You can increase chamber pressure to increase torque and bump HP some but the real HP increase comes from higher RPM. Rather than the stock 6000 RPM, build the engine to do 8000 RPM. With no increase in chamber pressure you will pick up 1/3 more HP. This sounds simple however there is a lot that goes into moving the peak of the torque curve from 6000 to 8000. Cam, port sizes, balancing, strong rods, oiling and on and on. If you do the port and cam to peak at 8000 rpm then only run to 6000 rpm you have wasted a lot of time and money. You will see some gains but not nearly what you could. Enough rambling for early in the morning. keith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 10 09:34:09 2008 From: "Walter Peterson" To: , , Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:34:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Head Porting I second Keith's comments and add that with a big cam you need to get the compression back up by either closing the head chambers (welding & grinding to get better Squish which also reduces or eliminates pinging) and/or update the pistons to do a similar job. You know you've hit the best compromise when the compression tester reads in the 205 PSI range and you don't ping. Flat tops & closed chambers on my R16 head & H20 crank (R16 rods). Walt Peterson in burned out Goleta. PS I have a free pair of usable 1600 drums & backing plates, winner pays shipping. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith0alan@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:00 AM To: drlsmith@dccnet.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Head Porting In a message dated 7/9/2008 8:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, drlsmith@dccnet.com writes: Now to be fair, part of the reason, I think, for having less detonation is that the longer duration cam will also reduce the effective compression ratio. And something that really bothers me, after spending nearly $2,000 on a cam, lifters, cam gears, porting gaskets etc. they gained only 14 hp at the wheels! Up from 64 to 78........ My hopes of getting 100 hp at the wheels of my 1800cc stroker are looking pretty damn slim....... :-( Daryl A longer duration cam will lower the effective compression ratio. I think I might have milled the head a bit to pick the compression back up into the premimum range. Also, torque is generated by combustion chamber pressure, HP is generated by RPM. You can increase chamber pressure to increase torque and bump HP some but the real HP increase comes from higher RPM. Rather than the stock 6000 RPM, build the engine to do 8000 RPM. With no increase in chamber pressure you will pick up 1/3 more HP. This sounds simple however there is a lot that goes into moving the peak of the torque curve from 6000 to 8000. Cam, port sizes, balancing, strong rods, oiling and on and on. If you do the port and cam to peak at 8000 rpm then only run to 6000 rpm you have wasted a lot of time and money. You will see some gains but not nearly what you could. Enough rambling for early in the morning. keith **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 10 20:02:41 2008 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:14:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for heater part Does anyone have the rubber/plastic 'y' piece that goes on top of the heater box. I can not find mine to reinstall the heater. It is for the low windshield 67.5. I can use vendors, but was looking for cheaper. SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 10 21:35:04 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:37:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 2000 FS in Ohio Posting this for Brian, please respond to him at the email address below. I wish I had the bucks to buy this one. Paul Ohio From: Brian Rinehart [mailto:brian300m@hotmail.com] It was an original 1600 west coast car, Calif. then Oregon then Ohio, 3rd owner, excellent cond., strong performance, beautiful red-copper color, not original, painted about 13yrs ago, never wrecked,( minor dings but very straight body ) Engine is a 2000cc high performance engine swap, dual side draught Solex carbs (rebuilt), Carb velocity stacks, Solex performance "B" cam, MSD 6AL ignition with rev limiter, Electronic distributor convertion (Deans) Exhaust header, 2" exhaust tubing through out, Stainless steel performance muffler, Newer recored radiator, Optima battery (new), Alternator (rebuilt), Performance plug wires 8mm Suspension/ drivetrain-- Koni adjustable shocks (all around), Nismo performance springs (all around), Nismo performance front sway bar, Urethane bushings, Cross drilled brake rotors, performance pads, Braided stainless steel brake lines, 5 speed transmission ( rebuilt by Datsun Motorsports), lightened flywheel, Nismo performance clutch, 3.9 ratio rear end, new wheel bearings, powder coated fuel tank Interior--Momo steering wheel, Custom machined steering wheel mount, Sparco machined aluminum shifter (shortened), Premium leather shifter boot, New carpet kit, seats ( reupholstered), Exterior--New premium canvas top (Stayfast), new windshield, hardtop (Snugtop), Toneau cover (full over seats & steering wheel) and Partial over rear folded top only. I forgot to tell you it has 109k on the body, 10k on motor and the asking price is $8,650 That's the low down on my ride. Thanks for your help, this is truely a great car for a Datsun Freak!!!! Brian Rinehart 614 554-2001 cell 740 549 4988 home 2725 Bromfield Place Lewis Center, Ohio 43035 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 10 22:22:01 2008 From: egustavson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:22:06 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Message to Shasta-goers This is from "Eric in Townsville" but now in Victoria BC for the summer. Our yellow 67 2000 is now out in the Victoria sunshine again, and cruising around BC but unfortunately we will not be able to make it to Shasta this time. In support, we will be wearing roadster shirts this weekend and making roadster engine noises wherever we can. Best wishes to the roadster community that keeps the Shasta experience alive, and special hellos to those stalwarts such as Dave, Herb, Stan and you other "colorful" characters who pass around enthusiasm by the bucketful. Please watch out for our Victoria friends, Tad and Michiko, who left Victoria early this morning, driving something really special. regards, Eric in Townsville, QLD SP311-06003 rhd 1970 1600 (in Townsville, resting) SRL-311-00183 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 11 00:29:07 2008 From: "Larry Braddock" To: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:29:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] carbs Any one know of a person in Los Angeles area that could tune the carbs on my 2000? Larry ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 11 15:20:07 2008 From: "MH" To: " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:14:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Over-sized U-20 piston needed Anyone out there in roadster land have a .020 over-size U-20 piston for sale or give? I only need ONE, the set I have has one with a hole in it. Thanks, Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-speed ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 11 15:27:50 2008 From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:26:11 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] rigid fuel line restoration A while back, someone posted a source to get rigid fuel lines (like that on the R16) restored. I believe they mentioned steam cleaning, re-plating, etc. I can't find the source in my records or the archives. Does anyone recall it? Tim 67.5 1600 resto making progress ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 11 16:49:38 2008 From: DeWayne Reichert To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] U-Joint part # Hey All, I,ve got my tranny and engine ready to go back in. so I was checking out the u-joints and they feel alittle rough. Does any one have a good part # for replacements. Thanks DeWayne 68 spl 311 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 11 16:57:50 2008 From: "jh.bahn" To: , Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:56:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U-Joint part # Roadster Universal Joint Beck-Arnley 102-0361 AutoZone 1-0027 w/ Zerk fitting Neapco 1052/1-0027 NAPA D RL 1460 Precision 391 JH Bahn ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 12 11:08:00 2008 From: Mark Coffin To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:08:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Side trim wanted for '68 2000 Hi all, I'm about 97% done with my '68 2000 restoration and am in need of some good stainless side trim. It doesn't have to be in concours condition (but if you have some NOS stuff I'd like to talk with you!). Something that could be polished and buffed to look nice is fine. Thank you! Mark Coffin Asheville, NC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 12 11:22:18 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:22:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Hi, gang. My link to SEROC is probably outdated, because I've fallen way behind in keeping my site current. Is there anyone in the NC area who can help this person? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: michael lalumondier [mailto:mikelalumondier@charter.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:37 AM To: me@gordon-glasgow.org Subject: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C. Hello Gordon, I am considering purchasing a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster but am having difficulty finding anyone around who could possibly service/ rebuild the vehicle for me. I live in Asheville, NC and haven't found anyone on-line or in our local phone directory. I wanted to know if you knew of anyone in the east that can work on this car. Thanks for your help. Mike ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 12 12:46:27 2008 From: Mark Coffin To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:40:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 I have sent Mike a message directly, but if anyone else is looking for someone to help work on their roadster in Western NC, I'd be interested in helping out. I'm semi-retired now, and have the time to work on these cars. I am just about finished with a full frame- off restoration on my '68 2000 so I have a pretty intimate knowledge of these cars now, and have decades of experience as a race mechanic on my own SCCA VW Scirocco racecars. I grew up with a wrench in my hand (wrenching on my dad's racecars as a kid), have a mechanical engineering degree and recently retired from the financial services industry. I know how hard it is to find good mechanics these days... Mark Coffin Asheville, NC Original message: From: michael lalumondier [mailto:mikelalumondier@charter.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:37 AM To: me@gordon-glasgow.org Subject: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C. Hello Gordon, I am considering purchasing a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster but am having difficulty finding anyone around who could possibly service/ rebuild the vehicle for me. I live in Asheville, NC and haven't found anyone on-line or in our local phone directory. I wanted to know if you knew of anyone in the east that can work on this car. Thanks for your help. Mike ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 12 13:46:39 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: scirocco14gp@bellsouth.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:45:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 We'd love to see a link to some pics of your car. Sounds like you have done a nice job on your 68 Linda -----Original Message----- From: Mark Coffin To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:40 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C. (Gordon Glasgow) I have sent Mike a message directly, but if anyone else is looking for someone to help work on their roadster in Western NC, I'd be interested in helping out. I'm semi-retired now, and have the time to work on these cars. I am just about finished with a full frame- off restoration on my '68 2000 so I have a pretty intimate knowledge of these cars now, and have decades of experience as a race mechanic on my own SCCA VW Scirocco racecars. I grew up with a wrench in my hand (wrenching on my dad's racecars as a kid), have a mechanical engineering degree and recently retired from the financial services industry. I know how hard it is to find good mechanics these days... Mark Coffin Asheville, NC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 13 14:23:28 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] cover for roadster What is the cover that covers the seating area, at dash level? A tonneau cover? Is this available for a 69 2000? JimG NJ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 13 15:20:36 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:11:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Mt. Shasta Show pictures!!! Full album here: http://rides.webshots.com/album/564100971dUiCcW Our trip to the roadster at Mt. Shasta started off with a track day at Thunderhill in Willows, CA. This was an event put on to benfit the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. SKie were smoky and temps thankfully never got above 100 degrees, I had a blast in the Z. The only vintage car I found was this very clean BMW 2002, roundtail... http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2198891530103240641TlWFwE I was wondering what was under the hood and it was a late-model M3 motor!!! The owner wa stired of fiddling with the old motor: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2859998860103240641pvwAQS We drove up to Shasta and temps rose to about 107 through Redding...fires were visible from the 5, scary: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2386811280103240641NrfiAD We camped Friday night in the Z33: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2809651200103240641ACylVd Temperature at the Shastice park was perfect, high 80's. Turnout was very ow this year, about 22 roadsters :( Some highlights from the show: Michael Spreadbury's absolutley GORGEOUS '66 SPL with a complete S15 SR20DE: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2812045430103240641uqJEnv http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2229915880103240641zXTdhR Just another impressive, clean, well-thought out, detailed masterpiece. From the SSR wheels to fanatically clean engine bay...I mean look how clean the tail pipe is from the catalytic converter...high drool factor. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2306640350103240641sxFxmJ Look how clean the firewall is! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2506815470103240641vwISTF Can anyone tell what headlights these are from? :D http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2718542210103240641TyuuoR There was a Nissan Figaro!!! Look at the pictures you'll be amazed at how many details are from our roadsters: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2441391730103240641CglWQY http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2279313350103240641xcvgzg http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2506448490103240641ecOYZA Hydrogen-enhanced roadster: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2371143420103240641IfMsrM Black Classic Instruments gauges! Looks like 67.5!! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2867844270103240641wNjRKI Mike Braaten's beautiful flat dash, '70 1600 with an S15 SR20: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2521803180103240641EYTlTP It was good to see familiar faces, let's get more folks out there for the 25th anniv. next year! Group Photo, David Premo(without roadster) is sitting front center since he won best of show last year :lol: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2133920120103240641uOvaNM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 13 17:17:44 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:13:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade The 1st Annual Roadsters On Parade in Bristol, VT, had a typical Datsun start, a bit rought to start but lots of fun when it was up and running. We started out expecting several roadsters and had one for the parade. After a winter's work Spike is still at the paint shop. Arrived in Bristol on the 3rd without Spike to learn George Landis' '69 1600, Pearl, is in the shop. We took George over to pick up Pearl at a very excellent motor sport shop, bad news...bad valve. Good news... learned the owner works on another Datsun roadster from Vergennes, VT, a few miles away. Anybody know who owns that roadster? Next problem...a friend had flown up from TX to dress up as Elvis and ride in Pearl in the parade. A roadster on the trailer is still a roadster in the parade. Next problem...a little oversight, no one had registered Pearl for the parade so we were on the side lines. George and John got enterprising and approached the local PT Cruiser club that had lined up for the parade in front of us. Pearl was made an honorary PT ( pretty terrific) Cruiser for the day, complete with the club's red, white and blue tinsel garland wrapped around Elvis, so we pulled in behind the Cruisers. Awesome...George and John were in the truck blasting Elvis songs, Elvis and Priscilla perched on the edge of Pearl's rear deck hamming it up, I got to "drive" Pearl. Fireworks on the 3rd, outhouse races ( yes, you read that right) down Main Street early on the 4th followed by the parade, super picnic supper at the Dream House Country Inn on the 5th along with the great drives and the amazing amount of neat free stuff to do in VT made it a super weekend. Thank you to Susan and George for putting this together. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 13 19:17:23 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:10:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade My glasses were off and I thought it said Roadsters on Parole! ;o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade > The 1st Annual Roadsters On Parade in Bristol, ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 13 19:44:02 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:39:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade Well, there were chains involved ----- Original Message ----- From: "SlowBoy" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade > My glasses were off and I thought it said Roadsters on Parole! > > ;o) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Klingman" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:13 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters On Parade > > >> The 1st Annual Roadsters On Parade in Bristol, > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jklingman@stny.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 13 20:00:15 2008 From: Eva Van Stratum To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Hardtop on Ebay After ignoring my hardtop since I got it, I put it on Ebay today with a $100 min. Need the garage space. If it doesn't sell and someone in the area wants to make a minimal offer for it, we can probably work something out. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270255521191 Eva 1969 SRL 'Cricket' (yes the noise from the glove box at certain RPMs). ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 13 21:07:06 2008 From: Dan Zubkoff To: datsun roadster Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons? Alvin, Thanks for posting the pictures from the Shasta Meet this year. 107 degrees in California for the meet. And to think, It was cooler in Texas at only 101 degrees. Checked out a 64 Fairlady 3-seater earlier today. Original running engine with its original 64 non-synchro transmission. Yet for some weird reason the transmission tunnel had been completely sliced open on both sides and on top of the tunnel by the shifter. I can't understand why the transmission tunnel was hacked? Now the early spl310 transmission actually has a transfluid dipstick on the top of the transmission. If you are looking from the underside of a spl310, you won't find a plug-hole for filling the transmission. Could a previous owner have actually sliced the entire trans tunnel open, just to fill the transmssion? Any ideas why someong would destroy the trans tunnel, yet retain the stock engine/trans? Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 14 11:01:10 2008 From: "Al Boettcher" To: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:01:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane I would like to know from you racers or owners out there with high compression engines as to how high can you go on the street with 94 octane gas . Down the road I am going to build a motor and concidering upgrading the compression to 10:1 or 11:1 compression for more torque . Any thoughts would be apprieciated. Happy motoring Al Boetther 68 solex. Ottawa Ontario. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 14 12:14:40 2008 From: Jerry Krakauer To: Al Boettcher , Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:12:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane Al, My experiences, FWIW, from way back. My first BSR U20 engine rebuild used 1600 domed pistons fly cut for valve clearance, +.040 bore and the head was cut .0005, resulting in a compression ratio of around 12.5:1. The only way to avoid knocking/detonation was with Sunoco 260, which if I remember correctly was 103 octane(RON), with an occasional shot of 100/145 avgas. With today's R+M/2 octane method that would be about 96 -97 or unobtainable. My second BSR rebuild went back to +.040 U20 flat top pistons and some additional head milling, resulting in 36.5cc combustion chamber volume plus 10cc for head gasket and piston to deck area, which computes to 11.7:1. This engine would run on any brand premium, which if I recall averaged around 97 - 98 octane(RON) or 93 - 94 today. So with the range your talking about, I don't think it should be a problem. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Boettcher" To: Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane >I would like to know from you racers or owners out there with high >compression > engines > as to how high can you go on the street with 94 octane gas . Down the road > I > am going > to build a motor and concidering upgrading the compression to 10:1 or 11:1 > compression > for more torque . Any thoughts would be apprieciated. > Happy motoring > Al Boetther 68 solex. > Ottawa Ontario. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 14 13:14:50 2008 From: "Tim Waltz" To: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:10:50 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Rigid lines Has anyone used Inline Tube or Classic Tube for rigid brake, fuel, and clutch lines? http://www.inlinetube.com/ http://www.classictube.com/ Any words of wisdom on OEM steel vs stainless? I've heard more people have leak problems with stainless... Tim 67.5 1600 resto ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 14 13:59:49 2008 From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Tim Waltz Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:54:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rigid lines Please post replies to the list....or at least CC me please. I am going to have to rebuild the brakes on my SRL now that I finally have it out of storage and am considering what I want/need to do. Thanks! -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Tim Waltz wrote: ============= Has anyone used Inline Tube or Classic Tube for rigid brake, fuel, and clutch lines? http://www.inlinetube.com/ http://www.classictube.com/ Any words of wisdom on OEM steel vs stainless? I've heard more people have leak problems with stainless... Tim 67.5 1600 resto You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 14 15:00:40 2008 From: Steve Jacobson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rocker arm oil restrictor screw adjustment So this past weekend I go under the valve cover to replace a rocker arm stud that I had been replaced with a bolt one race weekend. Lo and behold, I find the rocker arm oil restriction screw just laying around waiting to go down some small hole. Yikes. I think it's been discussed here before, but I cannot find the thread. Cannot find any mention of it in the manual either. 1) How is it adjusted? I started at 2 turns out from bottom. 2) Should it have a lock nut on it? (I put one on) and thus should I be looking for one floating around too? I have looked, but did not see any additional parts (including the addtional rocker arm tower stud that was missing a nut, though I found a washer.) arfgggghh. Thanks for any help. Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home www.elrss.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 14 15:01:44 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: jsk977@optonline.net Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:00:39 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane My current engine is 11.7 to 1 with Arias forged pistons, ported head, good streetable cam a bit more lift and duration than Solex 1, GB dizzy running 28 degrees total advance (starting at 20), 45mm Dellorto carbs with 37 chokes with cold air intake, Jacobs pro-street ignition, header, 2.5 inch exhaust. In hot weather it can knock a bit if I get on it hard with 92 gas at lower rpms. I have a few gallons of Moroso octane boost (can't get it anymore, but a friend had access) that mixed as suggested will take care of it. Outside temp has a lot to do with it in my opinion. Greg Burrows 67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA -- Jerry Krakauer wrote: Al, My experiences, FWIW, from way back. My first BSR U20 engine rebuild used 1600 domed pistons fly cut for valve clearance, +.040 bore and the head was cut .0005, resulting in a compression ratio of around 12.5:1. The only way to avoid knocking/detonation was with Sunoco 260, which if I remember correctly was 103 octane(RON), with an occasional shot of 100/145 avgas. With today's R+M/2 octane method that would be about 96 -97 or unobtainable. My second BSR rebuild went back to +.040 U20 flat top pistons and some additional head milling, resulting in 36.5cc combustion chamber volume plus 10cc for head gasket and piston to deck area, which computes to 11.7:1. This engine would run on any brand premium, which if I recall averaged around 97 - 98 octane(RON) or 93 - 94 today. So with the range your talking about, I don't think it should be a problem. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Boettcher" To: Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Compression vers Octane >I would like to know from you racers or owners out there with high >compression > engines > as to how high can you go on the street with 94 octane gas . Down the road > I > am going > to build a motor and concidering upgrading the compression to 10:1 or 11:1 > compression > for more torque . Any thoughts would be apprieciated. > Happy motoring > Al Boetther 68 solex. > Ottawa Ontario. ____________________________________________________________ Click to for great deals on pitching machines and baseballs. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4tfTuHIYJBdO2zRChoL7fSoD Bk5rvrTSH0LlcF10VGmCfMtI/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 15 06:18:41 2008 From: Ted Schumacher To: Tim Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:16:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rigid lines Tim wrote: > Please post replies to the list....or at least CC me please. I am going to have to rebuild the brakes on my SRL now that I finally have it out of storage and am considering what I want/need to do. > > Thanks! > -- > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Tim Waltz wrote: > > ============= > Has anyone used Inline Tube or Classic Tube for rigid brake, fuel, and > clutch lines? > > > http://www.inlinetube.com/ > > http://www.classictube.com/ > > > Any words of wisdom on OEM steel vs stainless? I've heard more people have > leak problems with stainless... > > Tim > 67.5 1600 resto > You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tedtsimx@bright.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM > > > > List, we do not do hard lines but, we do make steelbraid. any length or application. Typical steelbraid 4 hose set sells for $79.95. Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 15 19:34:24 2008 From: DeWayne Reichert To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] parts search Wahoo she's up and running. The tranny works great and it almost purr's (alittle sputter now and than). So now its time for the nickle and dime stuff. I'm looking for the hood support rod for our 68. The 2x2 I was using slid out of place and you guessed it, down came the hood right in my little knogan. So if you have an extra PLEASE let me know. Thanks DeWayne 68, spl 311 - 1605 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 15 21:32:39 2008 From: DeWayne Reichert To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] parts search Wahoo she's up and running. The tranny works great and it almost purr's (alittle sputter now and than). So now its time for the nickle and dime stuff. I'm looking for the hood support rod for our 68. The 2x2 I was using slid out of place and you guessed it, down came the hood right in my little knogan. So if you have an extra PLEASE let me know. Thanks DeWayne 68, spl 311 - 1605 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 16 12:36:46 2008 From: "Bubba" To: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:36:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for someone to check car in Sandy Utah Is there anyone on the list near Sandy, Utah who can check out a 510 for me? Car is listed on e-bay, and the auction ends in about 3 days. I would appreciate it if you contact me off list at bubwin@mts.net Thanks Bob Winslade Lorette, Manitoba Canada 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Roadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 16 22:01:05 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Dan Zubkoff'" , "'datsun roadster'" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:59:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons? Was it sliced up enough to pull the trans without pulling the engine? I heard about that on a race car once. They made the tunnel removable so they could pull the trans out through the interior. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Zubkoff Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:07 PM To: datsun roadster Subject: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons? Alvin, Thanks for posting the pictures from the Shasta Meet this year. 107 degrees in California for the meet. And to think, It was cooler in Texas at only 101 degrees. Checked out a 64 Fairlady 3-seater earlier today. Original running engine with its original 64 non-synchro transmission. Yet for some weird reason the transmission tunnel had been completely sliced open on both sides and on top of the tunnel by the shifter. I can't understand why the transmission tunnel was hacked? Now the early spl310 transmission actually has a transfluid dipstick on the top of the transmission. If you are looking from the underside of a spl310, you won't find a plug-hole for filling the transmission. Could a previous owner have actually sliced the entire trans tunnel open, just to fill the transmssion? Any ideas why someong would destroy the trans tunnel, yet retain the stock engine/trans? Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 16 22:16:02 2008 From: Peter Jones To: Gordon Glasgow , 'Dan Zubkoff' Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:10:16 +0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons? My 64 was the same. The guy who owned it was too lazy to undo the gearstick when he pulled the motor for a rebuild. Regards Peter j> From: gsglasgow@comcast.net> To: zubkoff@sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:59:26 -0700> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons?> > Was it sliced up enough to pull the trans without pulling the engine? I> heard about that on a race car once. They made the tunnel removable so they> could pull the trans out through the interior.> > Gordon Glasgow> > -----Original Message-----> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On> Behalf Of Dan Zubkoff> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:07 PM> To: datsun roadster> Subject: [Roadsters] Slicing up a transmission Tunnel - Reasons?> > Alvin,> > Thanks for posting the pictures from the Shasta Meet this year. 107> degrees in California for the meet. And to think, It was cooler in Texas at> only 101 degrees.> > Checked out a 64 Fairlady 3-seater earlier today. Original running engine> with its original 64 non-synchro transmission. Yet for some weird reason the> transmission tunnel had been completely sliced open on both sides and on top> of the tunnel by the shifter. > > I can't understand why the transmission tunnel was hacked?> > Now the early spl310 transmission actually has a transfluid dipstick on> the top of the transmission. If you are looking from the underside of a> spl310, you won't find a plug-hole for filling the transmission. Could a> previous owner have actually sliced the entire trans tunnel open, just to> fill the transmssion?> > Any ideas why someong would destroy the trans tunnel, yet retain the stock> engine/trans?> > Dan Zubkoff> Houston, TX> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as dato1500@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Meet singles near you. 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Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law gave birth to a beautiful baby girl! Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and 20 inches. This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled. And I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the church and walk down the aisle at their wedding. Mom, dad and baby are all doing well today. Maya's grandparents are busy bragging! Proud to be Grandpa, Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 17 10:31:51 2008 From: Tim To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 9:31:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns Congats Paul. Since my oldest just graduated from HS, this makes me feel rather young! And I thank you for that!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: ============= About ten years ago, on Yahoo's auction site, I bid on and won a cool looking DATSUN racing jacket. When I got it, it was just as nice as advertised, a beautiful dark blue, but somehow I missed the part in the write up that said it was a child size. So it has hung it the back of my closet since then. Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law gave birth to a beautiful baby girl! Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and 20 inches. This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled. And I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the church and walk down the aisle at their wedding. Mom, dad and baby are all doing well today. Maya's grandparents are busy bragging! Proud to be Grandpa, Paul Ohio ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 17 11:16:21 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, "bluebirds" Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:11:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns Congrats, Paul! I have 2 granddaughters, born 25 days apart, and are both 3. It's better than when your kids are born, because you know what to watch for as they grow, and you are more aware of each step and milestone, since you aren't pre-occupied with all the parenting stuff. Enjoy, and best wishes for your son and his family! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "bluebirds" ; "'datsun-roadsters'" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:08 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns > About ten years ago, on Yahoo's auction site, I bid on and won a cool > looking DATSUN racing jacket. When I got it, it was just as nice as > advertised, a beautiful dark blue, but somehow I missed the part in the > write up that said it was a child size. So it has hung it the back of my > closet since then. > > Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law gave > birth to a beautiful baby girl! Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and > 20 > inches. This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled. > And > I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the > church and walk down the aisle at their wedding. Mom, dad and baby are > all > doing well today. Maya's grandparents are busy bragging! > > > > > > Proud to be Grandpa, > > > > Paul > > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 17 11:33:57 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:33:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns My 4 grand daughters 9, 8, (NC) 7 and 5 (NY) love the roadster and think the best part of the visit is riding shotgun with Grandpa. Taking turns can be an issue. John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 "Spike" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>; "bluebirds" ; "'datsun-roadsters'" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns > Congrats, Paul! > I have 2 granddaughters, born 25 days apart, and are both 3. It's better > than when your kids are born, because you know what to watch for as they > grow, and you are more aware of each step and milestone, since you aren't > pre-occupied with all the parenting stuff. > > Enjoy, and best wishes for your son and his family! > > Bob Winslade > 1966-1600 Missy > 1967-1600 Bender > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> > To: "bluebirds" ; "'datsun-roadsters'" > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:08 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns > > >> About ten years ago, on Yahoo's auction site, I bid on and won a cool >> looking DATSUN racing jacket. When I got it, it was just as nice as >> advertised, a beautiful dark blue, but somehow I missed the part in the >> write up that said it was a child size. So it has hung it the back of my >> closet since then. >> >> Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law >> gave >> birth to a beautiful baby girl! Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and >> 20 >> inches. This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled. >> And >> I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the >> church and walk down the aisle at their wedding. Mom, dad and baby are >> all >> doing well today. Maya's grandparents are busy bragging! >> >> >> >> >> >> Proud to be Grandpa, >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> Ohio >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jklingman@stny.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 17 12:19:34 2008 From: Tim To: John Klingman , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:13:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns Ah, back in the day, when we were both small enough, my brother and I used to ride in the back jump "seat". Too bad you can't legally do that now. At least I assume it is illegal. Tim ---- John Klingman wrote: ============= My 4 grand daughters 9, 8, (NC) 7 and 5 (NY) love the roadster and think the best part of the visit is riding shotgun with Grandpa. Taking turns can be an issue. John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 "Spike" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>; "bluebirds" ; "'datsun-roadsters'" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns > Congrats, Paul! > I have 2 granddaughters, born 25 days apart, and are both 3. It's better > than when your kids are born, because you know what to watch for as they > grow, and you are more aware of each step and milestone, since you aren't > pre-occupied with all the parenting stuff. > > Enjoy, and best wishes for your son and his family! > > Bob Winslade > 1966-1600 Missy > 1967-1600 Bender > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> > To: "bluebirds" ; "'datsun-roadsters'" > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:08 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsuns > > >> About ten years ago, on Yahoo's auction site, I bid on and won a cool >> looking DATSUN racing jacket. When I got it, it was just as nice as >> advertised, a beautiful dark blue, but somehow I missed the part in the >> write up that said it was a child size. So it has hung it the back of my >> closet since then. >> >> Well all that changed last night around 8:45 when my daughter-in-law >> gave >> birth to a beautiful baby girl! Maya Katherine was 7 pounds 4 ounces and >> 20 >> inches. This is our first grandchild so you know she will be spoiled. >> And >> I haven't seen our son, Dan, smile like that since he saw Kate enter the >> church and walk down the aisle at their wedding. Mom, dad and baby are >> all >> doing well today. Maya's grandparents are busy bragging! >> >> >> >> >> >> Proud to be Grandpa, >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> Ohio >> ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 17 12:20:35 2008 From: "Matt Kall" To: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:17:18 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) I am looking for used s/brake, choke, fan, flasher knobs for a 1969 2000. Anyone who might have please let me know Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 18 06:23:06 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:24:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 2000 matching # project LA area for sale I recently purchased #402 from Jon Frampton and am getting ready to have it shipped back east. I am making it available for 2 weeks only out there, same price I bought it for only with used gauges and visors and a smog head. I still think it is a tremendous deal for $4k, it's worth $5500 to me to have it back here on the east coast or I wouldn't have made the purchase. it's a very buildable matching number car. I would also consider selling with the restored gauges, new visors, and uncut non-smog head I got with it for additional $$. I do have use for these on my other 67.5 2000's though. I am aware that folks were both calling and e-mailing Jon trying to talk him out of our deal on the car, primarily as a result of one individual claiming I tried to "gouge" him offering to sell him the car. I'm sure he neglected to mention the following: he had contacted me the day before Jon put his car up for sale expressing a wish to fulfill a lifelong dream of owning a 67.5 2000. when Jon posted the car, I forwarded his e-mail to this individual and told them they should buy the car. I forwarded their e-mail to Jon and told him they wanted one, and would probably buy his. hours later when Jon sent me the photos, I went to the trouble to look up the person who wanted one on Yahoo Peoplesearch and called and left him a message that the car was a great deal and he should jump on it immediately before someone else bought it. what more could I do for him? I told Jon I'd give him what he was asking for the car if they didn't buy it if we could make arrangements on the payment. when this person couldn't make up their mind by the next day Jon made the deal with me and I PayPal'd him a deposit. I then got an e-mail from undecided saying he was sad he'd waited too long and missed out on the car... told him I'd bought it and was willing to sell for the same price to him only with 3 part substitutions but I'd throw in a set of original seats. he said he'd send out a deposit that day. later in the day he decided he just couldn't get over that I would "win" some parts on the deal and offered me $100 to back out of the deal with Jon and take it over himself which I declined. his next step was to go around badmouthing me, saying I was trying to gouge him... so those are the facts, I apologize for the extra bandwidth if this is irrelevant to you... the car is an excellent buy at that price, all politics aside. contact me offlist if interested. I'll post pretty much the same info on 311s.org clock is ticking......... Craig Halsted 540-635-5752 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 18 10:12:56 2008 From: "D Riedel" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:13:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator My fuel and temperature gauges are both inoperative. I understand that the gauge voltage regulator is the likely culprit, correct? I was wondering if anyone has successfully used the 510 part (one of the vendors suggests that it can be done). Is there a downside? I can get the 510 part for $27 versus $85ish for the roadster version. I'm going to have a look at the one I have... clean up the contacts, etc., but I'm also looking ahead at a replacement. -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 18 18:03:48 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'D Riedel'" , Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:33:36 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator Hi Dave, Loved my few days in Victoria and Vancouver BC at exactly this time of year in 2004! There are several alternative regulators suitable for this task. A recent discussion on 311s.org on this topic mentioned a 3 pin electronic VR that was suitable. Check out this link: - http://tinyurl.com/6yyohy A 510 VR is probably OK but you may need to adjust yourself to the reading the gauges produce. By that I mean electrical gauges are vague in their operation and what is shown as a "normal" Temperature for example is to a large degree dependent on the VR and gauge characteristics. However, once you determine what the reading is for a normal operating temperature, that becomes your reference and we move on! "Gauge voltage regulator My fuel and temperature gauges are both inoperative. I understand that the gauge voltage regulator is the likely culprit, correct? I was wondering if anyone has successfully used the 510 part (one of the vendors suggests that it can be done). Is there a downside? I can get the 510 part for $27 versus $85ish for the roadster version. I'm going to have a look at the one I have... clean up the contacts, etc., but I'm also looking ahead at a replacement. Dave Riedel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 18 20:42:05 2008 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Rough Value of '66 1600? I just recently joined this list as I'm trying to buy a '66 1600 Roadster that is sitting outside a local junkyard. I'm getting the idea that the seller may have an inflated idea of the car's value. It is very complete and original, but much of the chrome and pot metal is pitted to some extent. It has a title, I'm told, and 68k miles. It's been sitting there for a while, all tires are flat. There's no pressure in the brake system or the clutch. Supposedly the clutch master or slave needed to be replaced. The car supposedly ran when parked, and I saw nothing to indicate that it didn't. Depends on just how long it's been sitting, though. It's been sloppily repainted years ago. It has rust. The front fenders swing in the breeze if you pull them, there's some holes towards the back of the rockers, and some bubbles in the rear wheelwell arches. The trunk is locked, so I haven't been able to dig in there. The floorpans seem to be good, but I really can't get under the car much. Rust doesn't scare me, as I have a 1970 BMW 2002ti and a 1974 Alfa Spider as well as a couple of old trucks. All "rescue" projects. Mechanicals are easy. The seller's supposed to call me when he has the key and I can check out the car. I'll be checking on it tomorrow. I'm attaching a picture, don't know if it'll go through. I'm curious if anyone can tell me what is a fair guesstimate of the car's worth as a project, not as a parts car. I'm all too familiar with the old "It's worth what someone wants to pay", but not all sellers understand that. I would hate to be thinking $500 if the seller would be right to be thinking $2000. Comments welcome and appreciated! vince Naperville, IL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Datsun] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 07:51:19 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 9:50:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] wiper blades I seem to remember someone posting a NAPA auto parts number for wiper blades. I searched on 311s.org but cannot find what I was looking for. I did find a couple part numbers but one is for a short windscreen car and the other does not look like what I am looking for. Does any one remember or know this NAPA part #? Or know of one other than "Bosch WBA 709"? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 08:12:17 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:10:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] link to webshots album SRL311-00402 http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 08:31:47 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:33:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rough Value of '66 1600? Vince, Very few mailing lists allow attachments, so best would be post the pic(s) (Flikr, Webshots, Photobucket, etc) and provide a link. With the information provided and no pics, sounds like a $500 project to me. The other main roadster resource is the 311s.org website ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Vince Strazzabosco Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Rough Value of '66 1600? I just recently joined this list as I'm trying to buy a '66 1600 Roadster that is sitting outside a local junkyard. I'm getting the idea that the seller may have an inflated idea of the car's value. It is very complete and original, but much of the chrome and pot metal is pitted to some extent. It has a title, I'm told, and 68k miles. It's been sitting there for a while, all tires are flat. There's no pressure in the brake system or the clutch. Supposedly the clutch master or slave needed to be replaced. The car supposedly ran when parked, and I saw nothing to indicate that it didn't. Depends on just how long it's been sitting, though. It's been sloppily repainted years ago. It has rust. The front fenders swing in the breeze if you pull them, there's some holes towards the back of the rockers, and some bubbles in the rear wheelwell arches. The trunk is locked, so I haven't been able to dig in there. The floorpans seem to be good, but I really can't get under the car much. Rust doesn't scare me, as I have a 1970 BMW 2002ti and a 1974 Alfa Spider as well as a couple of old trucks. All "rescue" projects. Mechanicals are easy. The seller's supposed to call me when he has the key and I can check out the car. I'll be checking on it tomorrow. I'm attaching a picture, don't know if it'll go through. I'm curious if anyone can tell me what is a fair guesstimate of the car's worth as a project, not as a parts car. I'm all too familiar with the old "It's worth what someone wants to pay", but not all sellers understand that. I would hate to be thinking $500 if the seller would be right to be thinking $2000. Comments welcome and appreciated! vince Naperville, IL [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Datsun] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 08:36:36 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:37:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] wiper blades You can also search the mail archives. From 2006: Short windshield: Napa #60-1033 Tall windshiedl: Napa #600131 ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:51 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] wiper blades I seem to remember someone posting a NAPA auto parts number for wiper blades. I searched on 311s.org but cannot find what I was looking for. I did find a couple part numbers but one is for a short windscreen car and the other does not look like what I am looking for. Does any one remember or know this NAPA part #? Or know of one other than "Bosch WBA 709"? Thanks Tim Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 09:07:06 2008 From: vytis1600 To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special I agree, $500.00 would be a fair price for the 66 as described. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 09:23:54 2008 From: DeWayne Reichert To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Missing belts Hey to all, What a depressing time it is. There she sets in my garage just waiting to hug those corners and beat some asphalt. Our 1968 spl 311 with a rebuilt tranny that no longer jumps out of 4th gear and a nice clean engine and compartment. It has longer studs on the front wheels so I don't have to worry about them falling off. I just cant wait to drive it to the ocean, to work, to the store just to drive it would be great. But my wife says NOOOO because it have no seat belts. What if we get pulled over she says. What if we don't I say. If we do she says than its a ticket. So there she sets in the garage waiting for a set of seat belts. So if some one out there has a set looking for a car PLEASE let me know. DeWayne & Jeanne 68 spl 311 - 1605 Wishing for wind in my face ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 10:17:04 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: drreich48@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:17:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Missing belts Just use some generic ones from the auto parts store for now until you find OE if that's what you are looking for. Or go to a junkyard and pick up some used if they are in good shape. Linda -----Original Message----- From: DeWayne Reichert To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 8:19 am Subject: [Roadsters] Missing belts Hey to all, What a depressing time it is. There she sets in my garage just waiting to hug those corners and beat some asphalt. Our 1968 spl 311 with a rebuilt tranny that no longer jumps out of 4th gear and a nice clean engine and compartment. It has longer studs on the front wheels so I don't have to worry about them falling off. I just cant wait to drive it to the ocean, to work, to the store just to drive it would be great. But my wife says NOOOO because it have no seat belts. What if we get pulled over she says. What if we don't I say. If we do she says than its a ticket. So there she sets in the garage waiting for a set of seat belts. So if some one out there has a set looking for a car PLEASE let me know. DeWayne & Jeanne 68 spl 311 - 1605 Wishing for wind in my face You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 10:37:17 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Pete Peters'" , Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:37:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] wiper blades I've gone to the 14 inch Rain-X brand blades and am VERY happy with them. I also use Rain-X repellent on the outside and Rain-X anti-fog on the inside (during the winter). CRAZY good results! Matt Smith And Loreli, (a 1970 SRL311 Solex about to get 2 new pairs of shoes, Yokohama S.Drive 195/50R15, on her 6" front and 7" rear Panasport socks) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:38 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] wiper blades You can also search the mail archives. From 2006: Short windshield: Napa #60-1033 Tall windshiedl: Napa #600131 ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 14:17:12 2008 From: RoadsterGB@aol.com To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:12:30 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end. Dear All Probably one of the most bizarre Datsun Roadsters you will see ... _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm) Best from England - Rob ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 17:51:02 2008 From: Hoon Kim To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:45:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for counter gear. So after much investigation both my counter gears in my two transmissions are chewed up. I was hoping that I could mix and match my two transmissions and that I would have one good counter gear to swap out. But alas I now have two non working transmissions. So I am looking for anyone with a spare counter gear for a servo 1600 transmission for an early 67. Anyone? Thanks. - Hoon Kim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 17:52:00 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:51:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end. Saw a roadsters at Carlisle, PA about 8 years ago with the Maryland Z club. It was poorly modified to look like a miniature Bat mobile. It had sculptured faces of all Batman's evil foes on the hood and trunk lids. And just to make sure it was really ugly, it was painted rattle can flat black. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RoadsterGB@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:13 PM To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end. Dear All Probably one of the most bizarre Datsun Roadsters you will see ... _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm) Best from England - Rob You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 19:22:27 2008 From: "Doug and Laura" To: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:18:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end. Looks a little bit like a Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato. See this one for sale in California as an example. http://www.fantasyjunction.com/used-cars.php?id=d9ccd8854f4336e79160626c0770 a36c Doug _____________________________________________________ Douglas Noble Shepherd Park Washington, DC '95.5 urS6 Avant (aka "Daddy's Big Red Car") '69 SPL311-25006 (aka "Daddy's Little Red Car" -- it's baaack....) '74 twin-cam solex Celica GT (aka "the big brown door stop") -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+taylorfarm=kddmgroup.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+taylorfarm=kddmgroup.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:51 PM To: RoadsterGB@aol.com; Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end. Saw a roadsters at Carlisle, PA about 8 years ago with the Maryland Z club. It was poorly modified to look like a miniature Bat mobile. It had sculptured faces of all Batman's evil foes on the hood and trunk lids. And just to make sure it was really ugly, it was painted rattle can flat black. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RoadsterGB@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:13 PM To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 2000 Roadster - modified front end. Dear All Probably one of the most bizarre Datsun Roadsters you will see ... _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/datsunmodified.htm) Best from England - Rob You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as taylorfarm@kddmgroup.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 21:37:41 2008 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, vytis1600@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special Thanks to everyone for their thoughts on what a fair price to pay is. I'm thinking the lower end of the scale is accurate, but then I'm also taking into consideration that the car is very complete and unmolested and less than 10 miles from where I live. The seller still hasn't called me back, I'm told he may be going through some personal problems at the moment. Natch, I'll update the list on what happens. vince --- On Sat, 7/19/08, vytis1600 wrote: > From: vytis1600 > Subject: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:07 AM > I agree, $500.00 would be a fair price for the 66 as > described. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 05:27:02 2008 From: JRice@koaspeer.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:06:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] (Roadsters) '66 1600 for Sale. Fellow Datsun Friends: A number of years ago I bought 2 cars off the E-Bay. I was looking for a "69 in good shape to rebuild. Well I bought 2. I completed my rebuild a few years ago and the '66 Datsun has been sitting in my garage. At this time in my life I do not have time to tackle another rebuild project. So I thought I would offer this to the Datsun forum first prior to posting on E-Bay. I have a '66 1600 ( Best Price Offer.) - The car does not run. - There is a small hole in the frame. It looks like from a floor jack. - The hood is a off a later model. I am looking for a good home for the car. Would be best if I can find someone who will use her. I do have the title for the car. Car will have to be picked up. I will in Bradford, PA ( North-Western PA on the NY-PA border.) Please contact me if you are interested and I can forward all information needed. Jeffrey Rice Bradford, PA. 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Tim -----Original Message----- From: chalsted To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 6:25 am Subject: [Roadsters] Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum with roadster out front now that I've set up a webshots account as 672000, I'm having fun posting some pix. will probably set up number of albums in a short period of time, so check back if you're interested. will be posting albums of the prototype 1500, SPL213-00004, SRL311-00006, have already posted one of SPL310-00003. also a project album, a 67.5 2000 album, and if you're interested in the classics at all, check out my Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum album- try it as a slideshow. even a couple pix of the roadster I was driving out front- got to visit Lee Ehinger and Paul Kort that trip too :-) Craig You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 09:28:49 2008 From: 12061997@comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (datsun list datsun) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:04:07 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] austin Hi List, Anyone in the Austin TX area out this weekend? bob muncie IN 67-1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 21:44:37 2008 From: Peter Jones To: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:44:51 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Part needed Helo listers, Does anybody know of a part number for the uni joint is the steering coloum. Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it before I can get it registered. regards Peter j _________________________________________________________________ Meet singles near you. Try ninemsn dating now! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fdating%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2 Fchannel%2Findex%2Easpx%3Ftrackingid%3D1046247&_t=773166080&_r=WL_TAGLINE&_m= EXT ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 22:18:36 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Peter Jones'" , Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:48:39 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed If the bearings are damaged a good Work Shop should be able to re-build it. "Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it before I can get it registered." regards Peter j ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 08:40:54 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:40:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact? I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to trash a couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals reactions and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just removing the brass sensor Thanks- Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 09:22:27 2008 From: Pat To: chalsted Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:20:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact? Craig, The sensors usually get swedged into the hole if the retaining nut is tightened too much. There may be a buildup of crud between the head and the sender, so you may be able to free it up with something that will dissolve the crud in there, but I have never found anything to do the job. When they have been stuck in the past I've had to use a drift and beat them out from the inside after removing the thermostat housing. There is a screw in sender available that I've used as a replacement for the ones that use a gland nut. They have never seized on me, but others may have different results. I don't remember what year it was intended for, but I got it from the dealer. Good luck. Peace, Pat Thusly spake chalsted: > I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to trash a > couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals reactions > and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just removing the > brass sensor > > Thanks- > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 10:53:32 2008 From: Charles Kyle To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:53:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine "make-over" Good morning, I have a1968 1600 with the standard R engine. I am soliciting suggestions on items that would "spruce-up" the appearance of the engine for the purposes of showing it during local car shows. I am not talking World of Wheels but local venues. I would greatly aappreciateany suggestions. Chuck Hm 512-225-4501 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 11:36:01 2008 From: "Lee Ehinger" To: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:35:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - looking for 280Z 5 speed trans I am looking for an early 280Z 5 speed trans - anyone have one or know of one needing a new home? Thanks! Lee Ehinger 67.5 2000 70 240Z Ft Wayne IN ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 11:38:31 2008 From: "Lee Ehinger" To: "'Graeme'" , "'Peter Jones'" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:38:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed I tried to find a small steering ujoint for a 240Z resto project & struck out.... no zurk or grease fitting on the Z or roadster u joint. Has anyone found a source for these small ujoints? Thank you! Lee Ehinger -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Graeme Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:19 AM To: 'Peter Jones'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed If the bearings are damaged a good Work Shop should be able to re-build it. "Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it before I can get it registered." regards Peter j You are subscribed as leehinger@verizon.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 11:44:59 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:45:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Pipe fitting sizes Q Hi Everyone, I have some questions about pipe fittings on a 1970 SRL Solex. Even if you have some, but not all, of the answers, I'd love to hear from ya! What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) ends of the manifold water pipe? What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) heater outlet of the water pump? What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) fuel pump inlet/outlets? Would it be a problem going to a slightly larger fuel hose than the pipe from the tank? (i.e. 3/8 hose?) Here's the reason I ask. I am being sent some Stainless Steel AN fittings/hoses and need to find the correct adapters. Thank you, Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 11:45:10 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: leehinger@verizon.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:45:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed Lee, Check 311 site.......WIKI-->Parts Interchange List. U joints are listed. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Lee Ehinger To: 'Graeme' ; 'Peter Jones' ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:38 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed I tried to find a small steering ujoint for a 240Z resto project & struck out.... no zurk or grease fitting on the Z or roadster u joint. Has anyone found a source for these small ujoints? Thank you! Lee Ehinger -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Graeme Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:19 AM To: 'Peter Jones'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed If the bearings are damaged a good Work Shop should be able to re-build it. "Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it before I can get it registered." regards Peter j You are subscribed as leehinger@verizon.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 11:55:11 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: , "'chalsted'" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:55:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact? Craig, I do believe Pat's right. BFH (big f'n hammer)is the answer. :-) Intact is not likely. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:21 AM To: chalsted Cc: Steve Nicks; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact? Craig, The sensors usually get swedged into the hole if the retaining nut is tightened too much. There may be a buildup of crud between the head and the sender, so you may be able to free it up with something that will dissolve the crud in there, but I have never found anything to do the job. When they have been stuck in the past I've had to use a drift and beat them out from the inside after removing the thermostat housing. There is a screw in sender available that I've used as a replacement for the ones that use a gland nut. They have never seized on me, but others may have different results. I don't remember what year it was intended for, but I got it from the dealer. Good luck. Peace, Pat Thusly spake chalsted: > I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to trash a > couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals reactions > and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just removing the > brass sensor > > Thanks- > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 12:13:17 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: chalsted@comcast.net Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:13:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact? As discussed on 311 site: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6426&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=temp+and+sender If head is still on car it can be damaged. No mechanics would attempt to remove sender without removing the head first when I checked. Linda > I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to trash a > couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals reactions > and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just removing the > brass sensor > > Thanks- > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 12:20:02 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Charles Kyle'" , Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:19:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1600 engine "make-over" Hi Chuck, Color coordination usually helps, especially if you can tie it into the rest of the car. Loreli is silver and black, but has yellow accents on the horn button and steering wheel bolts (I have to explain that it's a black Grant GT 13" steering wheel). Yellow also accents the brake calipers/drums, and (very carefully done) in the inside of the emblems (where the inside of the emblem writing was white, it's now matching yellow, as is the black inside part of the "D" on the 2000 grille. Finally, I've carried the theme into the engine compartment. I dismantled the alternator and painted it yellow. I polished the valve cover and painted it yellow (then carefully removed the paint from the raised areas with very fine sandpaper, and re-painted the whole thing clear). Yellow Accel spark plug wires have it NEARLY done. Finally, a cheap way to make things look pretty is the $50+ dollar stainless Steel hose cover kit almost every auto parts house sells. Some shiny heat/sound shield material on the inside of the hood wouldn't hurt either. Here's a link to what I used. http://lobucrod.com. A 4'x10' did my hood, trunk lid, and inside my door panels with plenty to spare. Matt Smith Hixson, TN -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles Kyle Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:53 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 engine "make-over" Good morning, I have a1968 1600 with the standard R engine. I am soliciting suggestions on items that would "spruce-up" the appearance of the engine for the purposes of showing it during local car shows. I am not talking World of Wheels but local venues. I would greatly aappreciateany suggestions. Chuck Hm 512-225-4501 You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 13:24:51 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: matthews517@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:24:17 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pipe fitting sizes Q Most all of the manifold fittings will be BSPT. Wouldn't be surprised if the water pump and fuel pump are also. keith In a message dated 7/21/2008 10:45:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, matthews517@earthlink.net writes: Hi Everyone, I have some questions about pipe fittings on a 1970 SRL Solex. Even if you have some, but not all, of the answers, I'd love to hear from ya! What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) ends of the manifold water pipe? What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) heater outlet of the water pump? What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) fuel pump inlet/outlets? Would it be a problem going to a slightly larger fuel hose than the pipe from the tank? (i.e. 3/8 hose?) Here's the reason I ask. I am being sent some Stainless Steel AN fittings/hoses and need to find the correct adapters. Thank you, Matt Smith You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. 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For those that are interested take a peak: http://www.chuckkyle.com/Home/My_Albums/Pages/Leavenworth_Cruisers_Car_Show_ -_July.html V/r -- Chuck Mobile: 512-225-4501 Web site: www.chuckkyle.com Leavenworth Address: Chuck Kyle 514B Pawnee St Leavenworth KS 66048 DC Address: Chuck Kyle 7441 Collins Meade Way Alexandria, VA 22315 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 14:47:00 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pipe fitting sizes Q In the smaller sizes, bsp and npt are so close that they work together. Jim --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Keith0alan@aol.com wrote: > From: Keith0alan@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pipe fitting sizes Q > To: matthews517@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 3:24 PM > Most all of the manifold fittings will be BSPT. Wouldn't > be surprised if the > water pump and fuel pump are also. > > keith > > > In a message dated 7/21/2008 10:45:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight > Time, > matthews517@earthlink.net writes: > > Hi Everyone, > > I have some questions about pipe fittings on a 1970 SRL > Solex. Even if you > have some, but not all, of the answers, I'd love to > hear from ya! > > What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) ends of > the manifold > water pipe? > > What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) heater > outlet of the > water pump? > > What is the thread (size and pitch) on the (female) fuel > pump inlet/outlets? > > Would it be a problem going to a slightly larger fuel hose > than the pipe > from the tank? (i.e. 3/8 hose?) > > Here's the reason I ask. I am being sent some > Stainless Steel AN > fittings/hoses and need to find the correct adapters. > > > > Thank you, > > Matt Smith > You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. > Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 19:34:04 2008 From: "dave" To: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:33:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact? Pat and Matthew are correct, I also knocked it from the inside. Too bad you can't get shape charges that small. OOH, new tool idea!!! Dave Brisco EastCoastRoadster.com Custom explosives coming soon. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew A. Smith [mailto:matthews517@earthlink.net] Craig, I do believe Pat's right. BFH (big f'n hammer)is the answer. :-) Intact is not likely. Pat Wrote, rather eloquently, I might add... The sensors usually get swedged into the hole if the retaining nut is tightened too much. There may be a buildup of crud between the head and the sender, so you may be able to free it up with something that will dissolve the crud in there, but I have never found anything to do the job. When they have been stuck in the past I've had to use a drift and beat them out from the inside after removing the thermostat housing. There is a screw in sender available that I've used as a replacement for the ones that use a gland nut. They have never seized on me, but others may have different results. I don't remember what year it was intended for, but I got it from the dealer. Good luck. Peace, Pat ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 22:41:37 2008 From: Peter Jones To: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:41:28 +0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Part needed Thanks to all that replied found the 311 site had a part number neapco #1-0170X. I have purchased a new Type A (early model) one from a local supplier in Western Australia grand total of $14.60. It has a grease nipple as well. I will size it up against my old one and let you know. Precision pn# 338 fits a Chevy Spicer pn#5-170X regards Peter J> From: dato1500@hotmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:44:51 +0800> Subject: [Roadsters] Part needed> > Helo listers,> Does anybody know of a part number for the uni joint is the steering coloum.> Mine is some what damaged and I will need to replace it before I can get it> registered.> > regards> Peter j _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2E com%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai% 5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 04:26:59 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:27:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] possible west coast run, need transport E-W? I may be picking up a 2 car trailer and making a banzai run out to the west coast to pick up a couple roadsters I have out there. if anyone needs a car transported east to west or is interested in one of my project cars and wants a price delivered, let me know. a few possibilities: #260 1500 matching # single carb car $3000 west coast a few 67.5 2000 projects prototype 1500 SPL310-00003 getting pretty nice old school 2000 race car national runoffs 3x 68 2000 race roadster with BRE prepared engine, long term stored (like most of them...) 66 1600 original California car $3000 west coast Volvo 122s Amazon let me know, I either have to be back by august 7th for a wedding in the family or wait until september (or skip the trip and just pay to get my stuff shipped) could deliver along the way out too, Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 09:15:37 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:13:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster vs 240Z Hi All, Anyone know how similar the door mechanics for a Z and a roadster compare? Specifically, I'm looking at hinges and latching. I may have access to a set of vertical door hinges at about half price and wonder how similar they would be. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 09:24:30 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Matthew A. Smith'" , Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:14:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster vs 240Z Oops. This was from Matt in Chatt _____ From: Matthew A. Smith [mailto:matthews517@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:13 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net' Subject: Roadster vs 240Z Hi All, Anyone know how similar the door mechanics for a Z and a roadster compare? Specifically, I'm looking at hinges and latching. I may have access to a set of vertical door hinges at about half price and wonder how similar they would be. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 09:25:52 2008 From: "Brian Hollands" To: "'Roadster mailist'" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:18:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster vs 240Z I can tell you that the exterior door handles are nearly identical and can be interchanged - I put a spare roadster handle on my 240Z years ago. I seem to recall that I might have had to put the RH handle on the LH side but don't recall that for sure... Brian 69 2000 Tampa FL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 09:48:06 2008 From: VulForge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:48:09 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Temp sender It is possible to remove the temp sender from the outside, but I don't recommend it. I ended up drilling and using an easy-out. I hope someone laughed when they named that tool! I am a pretty good machinist and it took hours. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1048 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 13:13:41 2008 From: "Brad and Gayle Holmes" To: "Gordon Glasgow" , "Roadster List" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:13:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Gordon and list The SEROC url changed a while back and I emailed it to the list, so here it is again. http://www.seroc.net/ We still have some updates to make but, we're back on the air......... so to speak, Thanks to Tom Phelan. Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster in N.C. > Hi, gang. My link to SEROC is probably outdated, because I've fallen way > behind in keeping my site current. > > Is there anyone in the NC area who can help this person? > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: michael lalumondier [mailto:mikelalumondier@charter.net] > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:37 AM > To: me@gordon-glasgow.org > Subject: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 > Roadster > in N.C. > > Hello Gordon, > > I am considering purchasing a '67 1/2 Datsun 1600 Roadster but am > having difficulty finding anyone around who could possibly service/ > rebuild the vehicle for me. I live in Asheville, NC and haven't found > anyone on-line or in our local phone directory. I wanted to know if > you knew of anyone in the east that can work on this car. > > Thanks for your help. > > Mike > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bradandgayle@charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 17:57:13 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:57:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333" mentioned as a comaprable plug. Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3 hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend. TIA Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 18:27:44 2008 From: "MH" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:26:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs NGK.com says that part number does not exist. Duh! Once again, someone can do a simple task he's paid to do. I'm sick of it! Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker/5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs > I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333" mentioned as a comaprable plug. > > Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3 hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend. > > TIA > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as twobeaners@earthlink.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 18:40:53 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:41:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks! I knew that didn't look right and that is why I didn't buy the plugs. The weird thing is that the screen looked (kinda) like this: NGK BP6ES NGK 73333 And this guy was saying it is the same plug. I may make a trip in there and have the guy pull the plugs so I can look at them just to see what the markings are, etc. THANKS once again to EVERYONE on this list and the 311s.org site who is knowledgeable in the Roadster area. Had I not read the available info, I might have just listened to the guy behind the counter. Getting a little less clueless every day!!!!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- MH wrote: ============= NGK.com says that part number does not exist. Duh! Once again, someone can do a simple task he's paid to do. I'm sick of it! Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker/5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333" mentioned as a comaprable plug. Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3 hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend. TIA Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 18:49:57 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:50:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks! I've never heard of a Napa only open 3 hours on a Saturday. Did the owner retire from the US Postal Service? Pete "apologizing in advance to any postal workers out there" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Tim > I knew that didn't look right and that is why I didn't buy the plugs. The weird > thing is that the screen looked (kinda) like this: > > NGK BP6ES > NGK 73333 > > And this guy was saying it is the same plug. I may make a trip in there and have > the guy pull the plugs so I can look at them just to see what the markings are, > etc. > > THANKS once again to EVERYONE on this list and the 311s.org site who is > knowledgeable in the Roadster area. Had I not read the available info, I might > have just listened to the guy behind the counter. > > Getting a little less clueless every day!!!!! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- MH wrote: > > ============= > NGK.com says that part number does not exist. Duh! Once again, someone can > do a simple task he's paid to do. I'm sick of it! > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker/5-speed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:57 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs > > > I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a > (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that > the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I > didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333" > mentioned as a comaprable plug. > > Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in > stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3 > hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend. > > TIA > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 19:06:08 2008 From: Tim To: Pete Peters , Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:06:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks! I swear to it. This one is only open 9-12 Sat morning. It just bloody kills me because I forget about it EVERY weekend I need/want to make a quick run there--about ten minutes for me. Other wise the next closest part store is about 30 minutes away. Oh yea...the post in this town is open 9-11:30 and 12:30 to 4:30 weekdays and for two hours on Sat morning. I can NEVER get home from work in time to get to the post during the week. So the posties here can get stuffed as well!! ;-p lol Tim ---- Pete Peters wrote: ============= I've never heard of a Napa only open 3 hours on a Saturday. Did the owner retire from the US Postal Service? Pete "apologizing in advance to any postal workers out there" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Tim > I knew that didn't look right and that is why I didn't buy the plugs. The weird > thing is that the screen looked (kinda) like this: > > NGK BP6ES > NGK 73333 > > And this guy was saying it is the same plug. I may make a trip in there and have > the guy pull the plugs so I can look at them just to see what the markings are, > etc. > > THANKS once again to EVERYONE on this list and the 311s.org site who is > knowledgeable in the Roadster area. Had I not read the available info, I might > have just listened to the guy behind the counter. > > Getting a little less clueless every day!!!!! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- MH wrote: > > ============= > NGK.com says that part number does not exist. Duh! Once again, someone can > do a simple task he's paid to do. I'm sick of it! > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker/5-speed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:57 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs > > > I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a > (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that > the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I > didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333" > mentioned as a comaprable plug. > > Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in > stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3 > hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend. > > TIA > > Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 19:42:21 2008 From: "dave" To: " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:41:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact? Linda, I would look for new mechanics. Re-reading the 311's thread, the one who wanted to burn it out is particularly scary, or just lying...Aluminum heads and oxy-acetylene torches don't play well together. BTW, How did you finally get yours out? Anyway you get it out, anti-seize is needed when reinstalling, so you don't need to do it again. Dave Brisco EastCoastRoadster.com -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704@netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704@netscape.net] As discussed on 311 site: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6426&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd =a&hilit=temp+and+sender If head is still on car it can be damaged. No mechanics would attempt to remove sender without removing the head first when I checked. Linda > I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to trash a > couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals reactions > and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just removing the > brass sensor > > Thanks- > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 19:54:31 2008 From: Dennis Louthan <68roadster@charter.net> To: Datsun Roadster Group Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:54:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark plugs If anybody wants the correct plugs, BP6ES....I will be going to Summit Racing next Sun. Only 40 miles from my home, I can pick up anything you need and ship it, which is alot cheaper than paying shipping and handling charges from Summit.PM if interested. Food for thought, Dennis 68 Stroker Minden, NV ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 19:54:49 2008 From: Bill Cole To: Tim Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:45:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks! Hi Tim, NGK stock #7333 is the same as BP6ES, both numbers are on the side of the silver box sitting in front of me, hope this helps.. Bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 19:59:48 2008 From: Pat To: dave Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] secret to pulling 1600 temp sensor intact? After I sent my first reply to this thread I started thinking about a tool that could be inserted into the water passage that could push on the sender straight, instead of at an angle. How about two arms with a fulcrum in the middle that could be inserted into the top of the head, bear against the inside of the water passage, and the other arm press against the sender? Put a bolt through the top ends of the arms, or use a clamp to put linear pressure onto the sender. Peace, Pat Thusly spake dave: > Linda, > I would look for new mechanics. Re-reading the 311's thread, the one > who wanted to burn it out is particularly scary, or just > lying...Aluminum heads and oxy-acetylene torches don't play well > together. BTW, How did you finally get yours out? > > Anyway you get it out, anti-seize is needed when reinstalling, so you > don't need to do it again. > > Dave Brisco > EastCoastRoadster.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: ljordan704@netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704@netscape.net] > > As discussed on 311 site: > http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6426&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd > =a&hilit=temp+and+sender > > > If head is still on car it can be damaged. No mechanics would attempt to > remove sender without removing the head first when I checked. > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I've been trying to get a temp sensor out intact and have managed to >> > trash > a > >> couple... is there a secret? or just one of those dissimilar metals >> > reactions > >> and I'm screwed....not a problem getting the "sleeve" off, just >> > removing > the > >> brass sensor >> >> Thanks- >> Craig >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: >> > 7/21/2008 > 6:42 AM > >> >> >> > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 22:39:16 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:25:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004 http://rides.webshots.com/album/564198375rAulSl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 23:47:05 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:47:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Sorry. I couldn't help myself. Some person has a windshield washer "nosel" for sale on eBay. My grandfather, for whom I have tremendous respect, never got past the 6th grade. His spelling was better. How do these people get along in a modern world? ("Nosel" wasn't misspelled once; the spelling was consistent throughout the listing.) Gary ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 03:56:13 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:56:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Looking for someone who can work on a '67 1/2 Glad to hear SEROC is back. I put the new link in the SEROC line on the datsun2000.com LINKS page. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 7/22/2008 12:13:26 PM, Brad and Gayle Holmes (bradandgayle@charter.net) wrote: > Gordon and list > > The SEROC url changed a while back and I emailed it to the list, so here > it > is again. > > http://www.seroc.net/ > > We still have some updates to make but, > we're back on the air......... so to > speak, Thanks to Tom Phelan. > > Brad Holmes > SEROC > Montgomery, AL > > Roadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 06:04:39 2008 From: Tim To: Bill Cole , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 5:04:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs and a thanks! Thanks Bill (and Les) for this info. This is a good thing to know as now I can just go to my regular part store and get a set. Thanks again fellas! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Bill Cole wrote: ============= Hi Tim, NGK stock #7333 is the same as BP6ES, both numbers are on the side of the silver box sitting in front of me, hope this helps.. Bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 06:49:40 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:49:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs Hi Tim, I never have any problem getting BP6ES NGK plugs at O'Reilly, Auto Zone, or Advance Auto. Always in stock, not terribly expensive, and readily available. Matt Smith Chattanooga TN -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:57 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] spark plugs I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333" mentioned as a comaprable plug. Does any one recognize this NGK number? And what stores have the BP6ES in stock? I got a set from NAPA once but the one closest to me is only open 3 hours a weekend and never when I need to go there during a weekend. TIA Tim You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 07:17:48 2008 From: "MH" To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" , Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:17:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling I worked with civil engineers at Black & Veatch for more than twenty years. One in particular that I liked working with and whom I respected, once wrote a "spec" sheet for some motor driven equipment for a water treatment plant project. He consistently spelled out "moter" numerous times in the document. Good thing it was proofread by others before it was published. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5 speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:47 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > Sorry. I couldn't help myself. > > Some person has a windshield washer "nosel" for sale on eBay. My grandfather, > for whom I have tremendous respect, never got past the 6th grade. His > spelling was better. How do these people get along in a modern world? > ("Nosel" wasn't misspelled once; the spelling was consistent throughout the > listing.) > > Gary > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as twobeaners@earthlink.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 07:28:42 2008 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: "MH" , "Gary and Cindy Ault" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling I think it is a "left brain - right brain" thing. Engineers can not spell well - this one included. If it was not for spell-check people would have good time with me:) I am generally pretty creative, but I do have "gaps". I started taking guitar lessons and this has really helped exercise the left brain. I am finding my designs come easier and more often. Now if I had the time to build all this stuff.... Have a great Roadster week everyone! Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MH Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM To: Gary and Cindy Ault; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling I worked with civil engineers at Black & Veatch for more than twenty years. One in particular that I liked working with and whom I respected, once wrote a "spec" sheet for some motor driven equipment for a water treatment plant project. He consistently spelled out "moter" numerous times in the document. Good thing it was proofread by others before it was published. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5 speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:47 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > Sorry. I couldn't help myself. > > Some person has a windshield washer "nosel" for sale on eBay. My grandfather, > for whom I have tremendous respect, never got past the 6th grade. His > spelling was better. How do these people get along in a modern world? > ("Nosel" wasn't misspelled once; the spelling was consistent throughout the > listing.) > > Gary > __ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 07:49:05 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: "Hall, Phillip B. \(MSFC-ED03\)" , MH Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling An old-timer with whom I worked when I was a youngster (I guess that I qualify as an "old-timer" now, come to think of it - with 27 years as an engineer under my belt...) was a notoriously bad speller. He came up in the profession in the days when you wrote out letters and reports by hand, and they were typed by a secretary - who knew how to spell. I like to think that I am the exception that proves the rule ("prove" from the Latin "probat", meaning test...) - I scored in the 99th percentile on the SAT in English, and once, when I pointed out an obscure error in grammar in a company publication to a senior tech writer (who is a former high school English teacher), was asked - "Are you sure that you're an engineer?" Correct spelling and proper grammar are dropping by the wayside in the modern world, unfortunately. Even folks who use words for a living - television commentators (especially sports commentators) and the like - rarely have a strong grasp of the fundamentals of the language (Every time I hear some talking head on the boob tube say, "He played good out there today", I want to scream.) Gary McCormick San Jose, CA "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" wrote: I think it is a "left brain - right brain" thing. Engineers can not spell well - this one included. If it was not for spell-check people would have good time with me:) I am generally pretty creative, but I do have "gaps". I started taking guitar lessons and this has really helped exercise the left brain. I am finding my designs come easier and more often. Now if I had the time to build all this stuff.... Have a great Roadster week everyone! Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MH Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM To: Gary and Cindy Ault; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling I worked with civil engineers at Black & Veatch for more than twenty years. One in particular that I liked working with and whom I respected, once wrote a "spec" sheet for some motor driven equipment for a water treatment plant project. He consistently spelled out "moter" numerous times in the document. Good thing it was proofread by others before it was published. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5 speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:47 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > Sorry. I couldn't help myself. > > Some person has a windshield washer "nosel" for sale on eBay. My grandfather, > for whom I have tremendous respect, never got past the 6th grade. His > spelling was better. How do these people get along in a modern world? > ("Nosel" wasn't misspelled once; the spelling was consistent throughout the > listing.) > > Gary > __ You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 07:50:14 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "MH" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:50:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling I picked up a 95 Bonneville recently for cheap A/C wheels.. when it gets low on fuel a light comes on that says "check gages" I always thought the word was spelled "gauges"......don't they ever check this stuff? I notice so many typos on AP news stories and in newspapers... spell check can tell you if a word is spelled right but not syntax or usage- there, their, they're... spell check will interchange them all if you don't know which one is correct to your usage in the first place...just tells you that the word you're using appears in the language, not if it's the right word for how you're using it. Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 07:57:43 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: chalsted , MH Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling The word can be spelled either way - "gage" and "gauge" are both correct. Isn't English a fun language? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA chalsted wrote: I picked up a 95 Bonneville recently for cheap A/C wheels.. when it gets low on fuel a light comes on that says "check gages" I always thought the word was spelled "gauges"......don't they ever check this stuff? I notice so many typos on AP news stories and in newspapers... spell check can tell you if a word is spelled right but not syntax or usage- there, their, they're... spell check will interchange them all if you don't know which one is correct to your usage in the first place...just tells you that the word you're using appears in the language, not if it's the right word for how you're using it. Craig You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 07:57:55 2008 From: "Jim Swedlow" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:57:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling But Spell Checkers are not always the answer: Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marquees four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 08:27:09 2008 From: "James Fogg" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:26:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > The word can be spelled either way - "gage" and "gauge" are both correct. > > Isn't English a fun language? I've spoken to several English majors who did well in school and they cannot answer a simple question I've had for years.... In the movie "Star Wars", is Yoda's grammar accepted as "correct", as in complying with the grammatical rules of English. Answer my question you will, or embarrassment will be yours I say. (btw - my Word grammar checker flagged that previous sentence as incorrect). ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 09:23:00 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:19:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004 A little Simple Green, a wash 'n' wax, and she'll be ready to go! Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chalsted Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:25 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004 http://rides.webshots.com/album/564198375rAulSl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 09:24:23 2008 From: racery@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:24:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NGK spark plugs Actually- BP6ES plugs have had the '7333' stocking number on the box of four for some time now. This recently changed in the parts system at the local store where I get mine, too- the plugs in the box still said BP6ES on them... fwiw, Toby I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333" mentioned as a comaprable plug. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 09:29:09 2008 From: "Stan Rasmussen" To: , "'roadster list'" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:29:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NGK spark plugs Are the BP6ES also correct for 2000's? Thanks - Raz in Indy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of racery@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:25 AM To: roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NGK spark plugs Actually- BP6ES plugs have had the '7333' stocking number on the box of four for some time now. This recently changed in the parts system at the local store where I get mine, too- the plugs in the box still said BP6ES on them... fwiw, Toby I have read that the BP6ES is recommended for my 1600. I went to get a (backup) set the other day and the guy at my local tried to to tell me that the "NGK 73333" --that he showed me on his screen-- was the same plug. I didn't believe him and said thanks any way as I have never seen "73333" mentioned as a comaprable plug. You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.1/1560 - Release Date: 7/18/2008 6:47 AM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 09:46:11 2008 From: Durf & Sue Hyson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:45:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NGK spark plugs For what it's worth NGK's 4 digit numerical part number exists as a solution to the problem of how computers sort lists versus the way the spark plug part numbers are formatted. As the information coded in the actual spark plug part number became more complicated the P/N got longer and became inconsistent in it's make-up . The advent of computers keeping inventories , being used to print lists , store drawings etc. created a problem with sorting. The simplest most efficient cure at the time and going forward was to assign each descriptive part number a simple numerical code. This got them around a computer's inability to sort by anything but physical position. it is something all the plug manufacturers have done for the same reason. Plugs will still have their B (long thread) P (projected nose) R (resistor) 6 (heat range) etc.part numbers so you can tell what they are. Thanks, Durf racery@comcast.net wrote: > Actually- > BP6ES plugs have had the '7333' stocking number on the box of four for some time now. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 09:46:31 2008 From: Durf & Sue Hyson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:46:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: spark plugs] Somehow I managed to not send this to the list ! -------- Original Message -------- Realizing that I am coming real late to this discussion I would like to throw in one thing. Now that we're 25 years past all the voodoo and old wives tales. I suggest you do yourself and pretty much the rest of the civilized world a favor and use the resistor plug BPR6ES . Everyone with a cellphone , computer , computer game , TV , radio , Walkman . Blackberry , Wi-fi , etc. , etc . will thank you. They will not effect or hurt the car nor will they need to be replaced more often. Look at it this way . Your lawnmower has a resistor plug , shouldn't your car ? And why you ask does the manual say to use BP6ES ? Because it's the same manual that has you using shellac to seal paper gaskets and grease to seal cork ones. They don't even suggest silicone sealer .... despite the fact they will later have one of if not the very best ones on the market ! (999MP-A7007 I think) We've come a little ways since the manual was written , sometimes for the better ! They may eve be easier to find. Thanks, Durf Matthew A. Smith wrote: > Hi Tim, > I never have any problem getting BP6ES NGK plugs at O'Reilly, Auto Zone, or > Advance Auto. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 10:00:07 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:56:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: spark plugs] So -NOT- using a resistor plug will mess with the I'm-too-busy-talking-to-pay-attention-to-my-driving folks? EXCELLENT!!!! Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Durf & Sue Hyson Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:47 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: spark plugs] Realizing that I am coming real late to this discussion I would like to throw in one thing. Now that we're 25 years past all the voodoo and old wives tales. I suggest you do yourself and pretty much the rest of the civilized world a favor and use the resistor plug BPR6ES . Everyone with a cellphone , computer , computer game , TV , radio , Walkman . Blackberry , Wi-fi , etc. , etc . will thank you. [snip] Thanks, Durf Matthew A. Smith wrote: > Hi Tim, > I never have any problem getting BP6ES NGK plugs at O'Reilly, Auto > Zone, or Advance Auto. Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 10:47:11 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:44:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor It was written: > I suggest you do yourself and pretty much the rest of the > civilized world a favor and use the resistor plug BPR6ES. The overall point of the original posting is quite accurate - the resistance reduces the generation of EMI (electromagnetic interference). More of a problem in the days of AM radios :-) BUT... Check your plug wires first. The rule is you should use resistor wires, OR resistor plugs, but not both. So if you have installed resistor wires at some point, then resistor plugs are redundant and contraindicated. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 11:34:59 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: sandhoff@csus.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:27:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor Hmmm, this is interesting. Isn't most wire, except racing wire, resistor? So if you use a resistor plug, what would happen? I think most people use the resistor plugs automatically, thinking to eliminate interference with radios etc. Why are the two together bad? Linda -----Original Message----- From: John F Sandhoff To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 9:44 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor It was written: > I suggest you do yourself and pretty much the rest of the > civilized world a favor and use the resistor plug BPR6ES. The overall point of the original posting is quite accurate - the resistance reduces the generation of EMI (electromagnetic interference). More of a problem in the days of AM radios :-) BUT... Check your plug wires first. The rule is you should use resistor wires, OR resistor plugs, but not both. So if you have installed resistor wires at some point, then resistor plugs are redundant and contraindicated. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 11:49:57 2008 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: "Jim Swedlow" , Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:43:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling LOL - good one. And why my dictionary is worn. I am a pro at using the wrong word,,, that spell-check lets by. Do you think Windows 3000 will have mind reading capabilities? :) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov@autox.team .net] On Behalf Of Jim Swedlow Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:58 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling But Spell Checkers are not always the answer: Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marquees four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew. You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall@msfc.nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 12:05:50 2008 From: steven boortz To: Jim Swedlow , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling this reminds me of when i once saw the following on the the TV screen: "Your watching Channel 56!" i mean, how do you get a job in television, if you can't spell the contraction of you + are? s 675MIZU ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Swedlow To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:57:41 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling But Spell Checkers are not always the answer: Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marquees four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew. You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 12:31:02 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: steven boortz , Jim Swedlow Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Mixing up "your" and "you're", "its" and "it's" and similar instances of the correct use of the apostrophe are among the most common of grammatical errors. For more on the subject, read "Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation" by Lynne Truss - it's a very funny and readable book on the subject of grammar and punctuation. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA steven boortz wrote: this reminds me of when i once saw the following on the the TV screen: "Your watching Channel 56!" i mean, how do you get a job in television, if you can't spell the contraction of you + are? s 675MIZU ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Swedlow To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:57:41 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling But Spell Checkers are not always the answer: Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marquees four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew. You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 12:36:35 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:24:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor In the olden days (think 60's detroit iron, dual points and ballast resistors), the rule was resistor wire OR resistor plug. In discussing modern day cars, I'm not sure if that holds any more. A quick web search turns up things like "You must use resistor spark plugs & wires in any vehicle that uses electronic ignitions or on-board computer systems... using a non-resistor plug or low resistance spiral wound spark plug wire in most applications may actually cause the engine to suffer undesirable side effects..." I'm all for resistor plug wires. I'll leave it to others to decide if resistor plugs are also called for. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 12:37:01 2008 From: Robert Keen To: Jim Swedlow Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling The story behind the poem can be found on this web site: See the right-hand column headed "Spelling Checker Poem. --Bob 68 1600 Chassell (Upper Peninsula) Michigan ==================================== On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Jim Swedlow wrote: > But Spell Checkers are not always the answer: > > Eye halve a spelling chequer > It came with my pea sea > It plainly marquees four my revue > Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. > > Eye strike a key and type a word > And weight four it two say > Weather eye am wrong oar write > It shows me strait a weigh. > > As soon as a mist ache is maid > It nose bee fore two long > And eye can put the error rite > Its rare lea ever wrong. > > Eye have run this poem threw it > I am shore your pleased two no > Its letter perfect awl the weigh > My chequer tolled me sew. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 13:06:05 2008 From: Tim To: John F Sandhoff Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:59:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spark plugs - resistor vs non-resistor This is new to me: (then again most of it is new to me) "You must use resistor spark plugs & wires in any vehicle that uses electronic ignitions..." I run a BG EI dizzy in both of my running Roadsters. While reading the install directions, I do not remember reading that resistor plugs or wires needed to be used. Did I miss that step? Do I need to be worried about this to the point that I should not drive either car until I get the proper parts? Thanks Tim ---- John F Sandhoff wrote: ============= In the olden days (think 60's detroit iron, dual points and ballast resistors), the rule was resistor wire OR resistor plug. In discussing modern day cars, I'm not sure if that holds any more. A quick web search turns up things like "You must use resistor spark plugs & wires in any vehicle that uses electronic ignitions or on-board computer systems... using a non-resistor plug or low resistance spiral wound spark plug wire in most applications may actually cause the engine to suffer undesirable side effects..." I'm all for resistor plug wires. I'll leave it to others to decide if resistor plugs are also called for. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 17:36:07 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:36:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Being a technical writer and having worked with hundreds of engineers over the years I've seen some good ones: A heading in an instruction manual: "Assemble the assembly" A Chinese machine tool manual: "Adjust ball screw until you reach top of mountain" MASH episode: Cut red wire, but first........ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 18:17:32 2008 From: Jim Anable To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:13:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pinion seal I've got my 1970 2-liter in a brake shop. The mechanic said that the pinion seal is "really bad," and wants to know if I can locate the part. A local guy that I trust says that it's a fairly standard item to replace, once they pull it out to see exactly what it is. But the shop is reluctant to do that. So... Does anybody know exactly what it takes and where I can source the part before the mechanic pulls the old one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 19:09:58 2008 From: "MH" To: "Jim Anable" , Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:09:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pinion seal I've replaced that seal on my car myself. It was a fairly easy task, but I'm not a certified mechanic. I better leave it to the more experienced list members to explain to you how to replace this seal. If the pinion shaft is grooved from using the commonly available, and narrow lipped aftermarket seal instead of the wider Nissan version, they'll also need to explain about using "Redi-sleeves" or "Speed-sleeves"..... Anyone? Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Anable" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:13 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Pinion seal > I've got my 1970 2-liter in a brake shop. The mechanic said that the > pinion seal is "really bad," and wants to know if I can locate the > part. A local guy that I trust says that it's a fairly standard item to > replace, once they pull it out to see exactly what it is. But the shop > is reluctant to do that. So... > > Does anybody know exactly what it takes and where I can source the part > before the mechanic pulls the old one. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as twobeaners@earthlink.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 19:34:31 2008 From: Pat To: Steve Harvey Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:34:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Back some 25 years ago I was involved in the installation of a couple of Japanese-manufactured printers. One manual said was ILLEGAL to block the air vents on top of it, instead on DON'T block the vents. The other manual was so difficult to understand how to set the DIP switches that I started reading the manual from the beginning. Not a single sentence made sense. By page 20 it started making sense. When I got to page 60, where the DIP switch settings were documented, I could tell what they were talking about! It's really bad when you have to train your mind to understand what someone else has written in English! I may still have those manuals, I'll have to look for them. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steve Harvey: > Being a technical writer and having worked with hundreds of engineers over > the years I've seen some good ones: > > A heading in an instruction manual: "Assemble the assembly" > > A Chinese machine tool manual: "Adjust ball screw until you reach top of > mountain" > > MASH episode: Cut red wire, but first........ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1569 - Release Date: 7/23/2008 1:31 PM > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 21:05:06 2008 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special Update Just to update the folks on this car... The owner found the key and brought it to the junkyard Monday. They called me yesterday (Tuesday). I went over and checked out what I could with the key. It works in every lock but the console (?), and the trunk contained some cheesy wire-wheel hubcaps, and old Road America brochure, and a spare white wall Bridgestone that looks like the original spare. The rust in the trunk wasn't as bad as I expected; a good sandblasting will take care of it with little perforation that I could find in the bottom corners. I connected the battery, and surprise, the engine turns over when I turn the key! It sounds like all it needs is fresh gas to run. Inside the oil fill cap the engine looks clean. Coolant in the radiator is full and bright green. The asking price is $1500, I offered the guy at the junkyard $500, claiming the car is pretty rusty and while mostly complete, it also needs lots of work. He didn't seem to be real pleased, and I left. He's got my number, and I would not be surprised if I hear from him in a few days, nor would I not be surprised if I don't hear from him. I need to sell something else to make room, anyway. It has been a pleasure being on this list and I enjoy having such a group to turn to for info and other car stuff. We'll see what happens, and I'll keep the list informed. Thanks, vince --- On Sat, 7/19/08, vytis1600 wrote: > From: vytis1600 > Subject: [Roadsters] Vinces 66 junkyard special > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:07 AM > I agree, $500.00 would be a fair price for the 66 as > described. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 23:20:44 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Jim Swedlow'" , Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:14:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Gary McCormick just blew an artery reading that poem... And to be proper, wouldn't a "gage" belong in the glove compartment? Thought I'd throw that one down. :) Phil, I tried guitar, it was ugly. I went back to cars. I think I have 2 left brains (or right ones, can't remember which does what). I'm not highly educated, just High School and Automotive Tech School, one of those "C" students in the leather jacket who missed English class to finish up in auto shop. (But a National Merit Scholar from SAT scores) Mistyping on a forum etc., OK, we are all human, but the things Gary mentioned, bad grammar and spelling becoming the accepted norm, makes me NUTS. I try to avoid eBay sellers who spell like that on principle. My boss refers to it as "forward thinkers", like an installer or an engineer, those who build, and "reverse thinkers", repair technicians, auto mechanics, those who can diagnose and repair. Rarely do people have both talents. The forward thinkers tend to spell better. I would defiantly be the reverse thinker. It's a chore for me to type to my own standards. Dave Brisco EastCoastRoadster.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Swedlow [mailto:jswedlow@gmail.com] But Spell Checkers are not always the answer: Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marquees four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 00:08:29 2008 From: Fred Katz To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:08:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote "mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly intelligent otherwise. Sorry, no Dotsun content. Fred - So.SF ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 00:08:58 2008 From: AffordPlbg@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:09:05 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Hi all, This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no interest in anything written on this list. Tonight, however, Gary called me in and said, "Honey, there's something here I think you'll want to read." Well, I've read every response and haven't stopped smiling yet! My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar Police" and I am my father's daughter! Misspelled words jump out at me when I'm reading anything. I can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding typos on the menu. I want to take photos of store signs that have misspellings, because I think they're so ridiculous. Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work at our house. He gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found many mistakes on each one. Of course, I had to point them out to him! Even his newly printed business card had the word "buisness" on it, and although he said he asked many people to proof it, nobody caught it. How can this be? Besides "its" versus "it's," I think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of the word I. Yes, we all learn in school that one does not say, "Me and Gary went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to the park." Unless the "I" is part of the object, however, the use of the word "me" is usually correct. "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not right. The way one checks is to take away the other person. You wouldn't say, "She went to the park with I," but rather, "She went to the park with me." So, the correct sentence is, "She went to the park with Gary and me." Okay, I'm through boring you. I just thought I'd put in my two cents. Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters for a change. Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher) **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 00:21:11 2008 From: steven boortz To: Fred Katz , Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling i'm lysdexic too. ----- Original Message ---- From: Fred Katz To: Gary and Cindy Ault Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote "mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly intelligent otherwise. Sorry, no Dotsun content. Fred - So.SF You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 01:06:56 2008 From: Herb Petty To: "Datsun List." Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] spelling Go Get'em Nancy I love it. Herb in Modesto, hi gary. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 01:36:33 2008 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'chalsted'" , Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:25:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004 What's the story with the Super Charged V8 Roadster? What motor is that and where are the rest of the pics? Looks like a sweet package. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2498271240103773287doXKju Walt Peterson -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chalsted Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:25 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] link to first good pix of SPL213-00004 http://rides.webshots.com/album/564198375rAulSl You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 01:54:03 2008 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'Datsun List.'" Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:52:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling "To air on the side of caution". I just caught a follow engineer write this in a report before he could send it out; and his mother is an English teacher! Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Herb Petty Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:07 AM To: Datsun List. Subject: [Roadsters] spelling Go Get'em Nancy I love it. Herb in Modesto, hi gary. You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 04:39:40 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:26:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling -----Original Message----- Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher) -------------------------- All together now; GOOD MORNING MRS. PERSON! Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 04:54:19 2008 From: Pat To: Walter Peterson Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:40:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling What about "At this point in time", or "irregardless", which just pass the spelling checker! Peace, Pat Thusly spake Walter Peterson: > "To air on the side of caution". I just caught a follow engineer write this > in a report before he could send it out; and his mother is an English > teacher! > > > Walter Peterson > Goleta Ca, 93117 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Herb Petty > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:07 AM > To: Datsun List. > Subject: [Roadsters] spelling > > Go Get'em Nancy I love it. > > Herb in Modesto, hi gary. > You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1569 - Release Date: 7/23/2008 1:31 PM > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 05:23:55 2008 From: Tim To: AffordPlbg@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 4:21:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling My "favorite" misuse of our language is "your a hard worker". I see this all the time. I had a 3.99 gpa in college when I went back about five years ago and aced the English entrance test for new/returning students AND still clueless after all these years. But I do remember the lesson on "me vs. I" to which Nancy referred: the removal of the other person. It is too early for English lessons. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- AffordPlbg@aol.com wrote: ============= Hi all, This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no interest in anything written on this list. Tonight, however, Gary called me in and said, "Honey, there's something here I think you'll want to read." Well, I've read every response and haven't stopped smiling yet! My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar Police" and I am my father's daughter! Misspelled words jump out at me when I'm reading anything. I can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding typos on the menu. I want to take photos of store signs that have misspellings, because I think they're so ridiculous. Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work at our house. He gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found many mistakes on each one. Of course, I had to point them out to him! Even his newly printed business card had the word "buisness" on it, and although he said he asked many people to proof it, nobody caught it. How can this be? Besides "its" versus "it's," I think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of the word I. Yes, we all learn in school that one does not say, "Me and Gary went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to the park." Unless the "I" is part of the object, however, the use of the word "me" is usually correct. "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not right. The way one checks is to take away the other person. You wouldn't say, "She went to the park with I," but rather, "She went to the park with me." So, the correct sentence is, "She went to the park with Gary and me." Okay, I'm through boring you. I just thought I'd put in my two cents. Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters for a change. Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher) **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 05:24:14 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:20:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling My roommate and I got into a heated debate in college. There were two sets of items in a box. He wanted to know which set I was describing. I said "these are those". He said "these are they". Decades later it is still a point of contention. I think he was right but I never capitulated. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 05:52:45 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Andy Cost" Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:41:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling are you sure it wasn't "these are them" ? ;-) just posted more pix of the supercharged roadster on webshots Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 05:53:45 2008 From: Mike Harper To: AffordPlbg@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Tim Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Nancy (and all), The misuse of I/me is very common, but recently I have noticed a lot of people on TV, including Anchors (who do not even write their own stuff) misusing he/him and her/she. It is everywhere. As in "Him and I were discussing X", or "That was a surprise to she and I" (how about to her and me, which sounds odd only because no one ever does it correctly, it would seem). What a language! Mike SC > Hi all, > > This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no > interest in anything > written on this list. Tonight, however, Gary called me in > and said, "Honey, > there's something here I think you'll want to > read." Well, I've read every > response and haven't stopped smiling yet! > > My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar > Police" and I am my > father's daughter! Misspelled words jump out at me > when I'm reading anything. I > can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding > typos on the menu. I want > to take photos of store signs that have misspellings, > because I think they're > so ridiculous. > > Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work > at our house. He > gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found > many mistakes on > each one. Of course, I had to point them out to him! > Even his newly printed > business card had the word "buisness" on it, and > although he said he asked many > people to proof it, nobody caught it. How can this be? > > Besides "its" versus "it's," I > think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of > the word I. Yes, we all learn in school that one does not > say, "Me and Gary > went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to > the park." Unless the "I" > is part of the object, however, the use of the word > "me" is usually correct. > "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not > right. The way one checks is > to take away the other person. You wouldn't say, > "She went to the park with > I," but rather, "She went to the park with > me." So, the correct sentence is, > "She went to the park with Gary and me." > > Okay, I'm through boring you. I just thought I'd > put in my two cents. > Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters > for a change. > > Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 05:54:24 2008 From: Charles Kyle To: AffordPlbg@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:51:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling That's okay Nancy. The shop where I take the Datsun for repair, if I am not doing it my self, has a big sign out front that reads, Mac's Automotive - We specialize in foriegn cars Chuck On 7/24/08 1:09 AM, "AffordPlbg@aol.com" wrote: > Hi all, > > This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no interest in anything > written on this list. Tonight, however, Gary called me in and said, "Honey, > there's something here I think you'll want to read." Well, I've read every > response and haven't stopped smiling yet! > > My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar Police" and I am my > father's daughter! Misspelled words jump out at me when I'm reading > anything. I > can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding typos on the menu. I want > to take photos of store signs that have misspellings, because I think they're > so ridiculous. > > Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work at our house. He > gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found many mistakes on > each one. Of course, I had to point them out to him! Even his newly printed > business card had the word "buisness" on it, and although he said he asked > many > people to proof it, nobody caught it. How can this be? > > Besides "its" versus "it's," I think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of > the word I. Yes, we all learn in school that one does not say, "Me and Gary > went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to the park." Unless the "I" > is part of the object, however, the use of the word "me" is usually correct. > "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not right. The way one checks is > to take away the other person. You wouldn't say, "She went to the park with > I," but rather, "She went to the park with me." So, the correct sentence is, > "She went to the park with Gary and me." > > Okay, I'm through boring you. I just thought I'd put in my two cents. > Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters for a change. > > Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher) > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as chuck@chuckkyle.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 06:09:01 2008 From: Pat To: Pat@HorneSystemstx.com Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:59:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling My Grammar always told me to proofread what I write! Must have been too early when I wrote my previous post! Where's my coffee cup? Peace, Pat Thusly spake Pat: > What about "At this point in time", or "irregardless", which just passED > the spelling checker! > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Walter Peterson: > >> "To air on the side of caution". I just caught a follow engineer write this >> in a report before he could send it out; and his mother is an English >> teacher! >> >> >> Walter Peterson >> Goleta Ca, 93117 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of Herb Petty >> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:07 AM >> To: Datsun List. >> Subject: [Roadsters] spelling >> >> Go Get'em Nancy I love it. >> >> Herb in Modesto, hi gary. >> You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1569 - Release Date: 7/23/2008 1:31 PM >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 06:53:14 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: AffordPlbg@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:39:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling GOOD JOB NANCY! Oh sorry me forgot raise my hand :o) I for one appreciate the Police work you do. By the way, is Antiestablishmentdisenterism spelled right? Chris On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:09 PM, wrote: > Hi all, > > This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no interest in > anything > written on this list. Tonight, however, Gary called me in and said, > "Honey, > there's something here I think you'll want to read." Well, I've read > every > response and haven't stopped smiling yet! > > My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar Police" and I am my > father's daughter! Misspelled words jump out at me when I'm reading > anything. I > can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding typos on the menu. I > want > to take photos of store signs that have misspellings, because I think > they're > so ridiculous. > > Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work at our house. > He > gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found many mistakes on > each one. Of course, I had to point them out to him! Even his newly > printed > business card had the word "buisness" on it, and although he said he asked > many > people to proof it, nobody caught it. How can this be? > > Besides "its" versus "it's," I think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of > the word I. Yes, we all learn in school that one does not say, "Me and > Gary > went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to the park." Unless the > "I" > is part of the object, however, the use of the word "me" is usually > correct. > "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not right. The way one checks > is > to take away the other person. You wouldn't say, "She went to the park > with > I," but rather, "She went to the park with me." So, the correct sentence > is, > "She went to the park with Gary and me." > > Okay, I'm through boring you. I just thought I'd put in my two cents. > Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters for a change. > > Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher) > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 07:41:16 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: Andy Cost , Roadster List Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/thesearethem.html Although only the pickiest listeners will cringe when you say these are them, the traditionally correct phrase is these are they, because they is the predicate nominative of these. However, if people around you seem more comfortable with its me than its I, you might as well stick with these are them. Andy Cost wrote: My roommate and I got into a heated debate in college. There were two sets of items in a box. He wanted to know which set I was describing. I said "these are those". He said "these are they". Decades later it is still a point of contention. I think he was right but I never capitulated. Andy You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 07:54:52 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:52:32 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling I always thought that the word public without the L should not be included in spelling checkers. It causes way too much amusement when misused and the few folks who need it can add it to their dictionary. keith In a message dated 7/24/2008 6:42:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gkmcc@sbcglobal.net writes: http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/thesearethem.html Although only the pickiest listeners will cringe when you say these are them, the traditionally correct phrase is these are they, because they is the predicate nominative of these. However, if people around you seem more comfortable with its me than its I, you might as well stick with these are them. Andy Cost wrote: My roommate and I got into a heated debate in college. There were two sets of items in a box. He wanted to know which set I was describing. I said "these are those". He said "these are they". Decades later it is still a point of contention. I think he was right but I never capitulated. Andy You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 08:41:02 2008 From: "paul hatter" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:04:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] spelling People are who not that. A teacher ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 08:41:16 2008 From: oliver To: dave , 'Jim Swedlow' Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling i'm a "reverse thinker" and i am an excellent speller and grammarian. (which is a real word btw) dave wrote: Gary McCormick just blew an artery reading that poem... And to be proper, wouldn't a "gage" belong in the glove compartment? Thought I'd throw that one down. :) Phil, I tried guitar, it was ugly. I went back to cars. I think I have 2 left brains (or right ones, can't remember which does what). I'm not highly educated, just High School and Automotive Tech School, one of those "C" students in the leather jacket who missed English class to finish up in auto shop. (But a National Merit Scholar from SAT scores) Mistyping on a forum etc., OK, we are all human, but the things Gary mentioned, bad grammar and spelling becoming the accepted norm, makes me NUTS. I try to avoid eBay sellers who spell like that on principle. My boss refers to it as "forward thinkers", like an installer or an engineer, those who build, and "reverse thinkers", repair technicians, auto mechanics, those who can diagnose and repair. Rarely do people have both talents. The forward thinkers tend to spell better. I would defiantly be the reverse thinker. It's a chore for me to type to my own standards. Dave Brisco EastCoastRoadster.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 10:17:34 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:57:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] more photos and albums on webshots Holy Cow- have had over 2900 hits on my photos since I started posting them on the 20th! just added more, hope you enjoy- my albums are at http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 more pix of the supercharged roadster RL411 album loading up now Auburn Cord Duesenburg museum great as a slideshow Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 13:56:35 2008 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel fit? To the wheel gurus---Would 15x6.5+18 or 15x7+11 fit the rear of our cars? Saw some SSR Longchamps listed. Where are you Victor? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 14:11:17 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Steve Harvey , Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:11:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Reminds me of assembling that bike on Christmas Eve. The promise was: "Assembles in two easy steps". But the instructions read: 1. Remove contents from box. 2. Assemble bike. On 7/23/08 4:36 PM, "Steve Harvey" wrote: > Being a technical writer and having worked with hundreds of engineers over > the years I've seen some good ones: > > A heading in an instruction manual: "Assemble the assembly" > > A Chinese machine tool manual: "Adjust ball screw until you reach top of > mountain" > > MASH episode: Cut red wire, but first........ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 14:51:13 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: , Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:51:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wheel fit? I think you'll be safe with 15x6.5 +18 in back. 15x7 +11 will rub the outer fender no doubt. Id they are SSR XR-4s then some fender massaging is well worth it!!!! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom PRATHER Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:57 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Wheel fit? To the wheel gurus---Would 15x6.5+18 or 15x7+11 fit the rear of our cars? Saw some SSR Longchamps listed. Where are you Victor? You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin@gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 15:28:25 2008 From: Fred Katz To: "chalsted" Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:28:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pics for sale Hey Craig, You can make money on those pix! Someone's asking for money for 2 b/w pics of an ordinary 1600 on eBay. Supercharged pics should be worth a buck more! Look up "Photos - Datsun 1600 Roadster" http://cgi.ebay.com/Photos-Datsun-1600-Roadster_W0QQitemZ380047701707QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item380047701707 Fred - So.SF On Jul 24, 2008, at 4:41 AM, chalsted wrote: > are you sure it wasn't "these are them" ? ;-) > > just posted more pix of the supercharged roadster on webshots > > Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 15:35:35 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "oliver" , "dave" , Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:35:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling You forgot to capitalize the "I". Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "dave" ; "'Jim Swedlow'" ; Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > i'm a "reverse thinker" and i am an excellent speller and grammarian. > > (which is a real word btw) > > dave wrote: > Gary McCormick just blew an artery reading that poem... > > And to be proper, wouldn't a "gage" belong in the glove compartment? > Thought I'd throw that one down. :) > > Phil, I tried guitar, it was ugly. I went back to cars. I think I have 2 > left brains (or right ones, can't remember which does what). > > I'm not highly educated, just High School and Automotive Tech School, > one of those "C" students in the leather jacket who missed English class > to finish up in auto shop. (But a National Merit Scholar from SAT > scores) Mistyping on a forum etc., OK, we are all human, but the things > Gary mentioned, bad grammar and spelling becoming the accepted norm, > makes me NUTS. I try to avoid eBay sellers who spell like that on > principle. > > My boss refers to it as "forward thinkers", like an installer or an > engineer, those who build, and "reverse thinkers", repair technicians, > auto mechanics, those who can diagnose and repair. Rarely do people > have both talents. The forward thinkers tend to spell better. I would > defiantly be the reverse thinker. It's a chore for me to type to my own > standards. > > Dave Brisco > EastCoastRoadster.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 15:41:00 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:41:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Yo tambien. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: oliver > i'm a "reverse thinker" and i am an excellent speller and grammarian. > > (which is a real word btw) > > dave wrote: [snip] > > My boss refers to it as "forward thinkers", like an installer or an > engineer, those who build, and "reverse thinkers", repair technicians, > auto mechanics, those who can diagnose and repair. Rarely do people > have both talents. The forward thinkers tend to spell better. I would > defiantly be the reverse thinker. It's a chore for me to type to my own > standards. > > Dave Brisco > EastCoastRoadster.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 18:30:15 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:30:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling And MY pet peeve(s) MAY v. CAN ( you MAY have my permission as long as you CAN( are able) to do it. LESS v. FEWER (less is singular ( as in less Time ) and Fewer is plural ( as in fewer sheep ) Peter > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:50:54 -0700> From: roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com> To: AffordPlbg@aol.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; tputland@charter.net> CC: Onegarlic1@aol.com; lesliehobbs@earthlink.net; DutchJoo@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > Nancy (and all), The misuse of I/me is very common, but recently I have noticed a lot of people on TV, including Anchors (who do not even write their own stuff) misusing he/him and her/she. It is everywhere. As in "Him and I were discussing X", or "That was a surprise to she and I"> (how about to her and me, which sounds odd only because no one ever does it correctly, it would seem). What a language!> > Mike SC> > > > Hi all,> > > > This is Nancy, Gary Wasserman's wife. I usually have no> > interest in anything > > written on this list. Tonight, however, Gary called me in> > and said, "Honey, > > there's something here I think you'll want to> > read." Well, I've read every > > response and haven't stopped smiling yet!> > > > My father's nickname is "The Chief of the Grammar> > Police" and I am my > > father's daughter! Misspelled words jump out at me> > when I'm reading anything. I > > can't enjoy a nice restaurant meal without finding> > typos on the menu. I want > > to take photos of store signs that have misspellings, > > because I think they're > > so ridiculous.> > > > Gary and I recently hired a tile installer to do some work> > at our house. He > > gave me several contracts to read and sign, and I found> > many mistakes on > > each one. Of course, I had to point them out to him! > > Even his newly printed > > business card had the word "buisness" on it, and> > although he said he asked many > > people to proof it, nobody caught it. How can this be?> > > > Besides "its" versus "it's," I> > think my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of > > the word I. Yes, we all learn in school that one does not> > say, "Me and Gary > > went to the park," but rather "Gary and I went to> > the park." Unless the "I" > > is part of the object, however, the use of the word> > "me" is usually correct. > > "She went to the park with Gary and I" is not> > right. The way one checks is > > to take away the other person. You wouldn't say,> > "She went to the park with > > I," but rather, "She went to the park with> > me." So, the correct sentence is, > > "She went to the park with Gary and me."> > > > Okay, I'm through boring you. I just thought I'd> > put in my two cents. > > Thanks for talking about something besides Datsun Roadsters> > for a change.> > > > Nancy Person (Yes, I am a teacher)> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 18:35:59 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:36:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Of course an argument could me made for 'antennae' as opposed to 'antennas' then we would be forced to use 'millenia' and indeed 'fora'. ANd how many people remember that data is plural? > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:21:16 -0700> From: vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com> To: roadster@astound.net; aultgc@att.net> CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > i'm lysdexic too.> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Fred Katz > To: Gary and Cindy Ault > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote > "mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on > the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of > words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could > get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and > would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly > intelligent otherwise.> > Sorry, no Dotsun content.> > Fred - So.SF> You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 18:57:04 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:57:18 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling I'm still wondering about "time" and "sheep"...... Pete "new 2nd shift slacker" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: peter harrison Of course an argument could me made for 'antennae' as opposed to 'antennas' then we would be forced to use 'millenia' and indeed 'fora'. ANd how many people remember that data is plural? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: peter harrison And MY pet peeve(s) MAY v. CAN ( you MAY have my permission as long as you CAN( are able) to do it. LESS v. FEWER (less is singular ( as in less Time ) and Fewer is plural ( as in fewer sheep ) Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 19:34:13 2008 From: DatsunDoc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:34:11 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] List topic This is the most list activity I've seen in quite some time. I can remember when this was the Datsun Roadster list instead of the English 101 list. Watkins Glen is just a little over a month away. I hope everyone has their cars ready for the trip, regardless of how you spell or punctuate it... Mike **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 19:53:49 2008 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:52:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling I saw a sign next to Home Despot that said "Proffetional Roofing". I didn't bother to right down the number, even though I could use a new roof. By far, the funniest things I have ever seen re: bad spelling is during trips to Thailand. Everything has bad spelling, be it a map, street sign or bar menu in a 5 star restaurant. Even ATM's in English are goofy. Sometimes I think it is intentional. Back to re-painting the trunk on the roadster. Joe Kinstle 68 2L BLK SRL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 20:12:50 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Hall, Phillip B. \(MSFC-ED03\)'" , "'Jim Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:12:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling They've been working on the PsUI (Psychic User Interface, pronounced "Sooee") for some time, but without much success. The program is too much of a pig. :-) Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:43 AM To: Jim Swedlow; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling LOL - good one. And why my dictionary is worn. I am a pro at using the wrong word,,, that spell-check lets by. Do you think Windows 3000 will have mind reading capabilities? :) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 20:24:10 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'steven boortz'" , "'Fred Katz'" Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:24:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Bumper sticker I saw: "Dyslexics of the world, Untie!" Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:21 PM To: Fred Katz; Gary and Cindy Ault Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling i'm lysdexic too. ----- Original Message ---- From: Fred Katz To: Gary and Cindy Ault Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote "mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly intelligent otherwise. Sorry, no Dotsun content. Fred - So.SF You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 20:59:22 2008 From: Dan Zubkoff To: datsun roadster Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1961 Datsun SPL213...in INDIA Hard to believe, but hoping the find out the story about this one. Jaywant Chowgule, in India owns a 1961 Datsun Fairlady which was restored by Ashvek Vintage World in Goa , India. Here is a picture of Ashvek's shop. In the very far right you can see a glimpse of the red roadster. http://ashvekvintageworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/showroom11.jpg Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 21:25:59 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Gordon Glasgow" , "'steven boortz'" Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:26:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling I had no idea I would start so much discourse. But now, Gordon's message reminded me about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac philosopher..... (Scroll Down) He stayed awake all night contemplating the existence of Dog. (Sorry) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'steven boortz'" ; "'Fred Katz'" ; "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:24 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > Bumper sticker I saw: "Dyslexics of the world, Untie!" > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of steven boortz > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:21 PM > To: Fred Katz; Gary and Cindy Ault > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > > i'm lysdexic too. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Fred Katz > To: Gary and Cindy Ault > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > > A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote > "mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on > the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of > words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could > get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and > would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly > intelligent otherwise. > > Sorry, no Dotsun content. > > Fred - So.SF > You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsglasgow@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 21:47:09 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:47:09 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling That's it. NO SOUP FOR YOU! Pete "I wonder if Dan "potato" Quayle is on YouTube?" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > I had no idea I would start so much discourse. But now, Gordon's message > reminded me about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac philosopher..... > > > > > > > (Scroll Down) > > > > > > > > > > > > He stayed awake all night contemplating the existence of Dog. > > (Sorry) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Glasgow" > To: "'steven boortz'" ; "'Fred Katz'" > ; "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:24 PM > Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > > > > Bumper sticker I saw: "Dyslexics of the world, Untie!" > > > > Gordon Glasgow > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On > > Behalf Of steven boortz > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:21 PM > > To: Fred Katz; Gary and Cindy Ault > > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > > > > i'm lysdexic too. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Fred Katz > > To: Gary and Cindy Ault > > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > > > > A while back (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote > > "mircowave" instead of "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on > > the roof and associated equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of > > words, but this one in particular drove me nuts for years. Never could > > get him to write it correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and > > would voice out the letters correctly. A brain problem. Highly > > intelligent otherwise. > > > > Sorry, no Dotsun content. > > > > Fred - So.SF > > You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as gsglasgow@comcast.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 21:55:30 2008 From: matthew peterson To: roadster list Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Starter problems Hi everyone, I have a project roadster that I've been working on off and on (mostly off) for the last few years. It has an L20b engine in it but I think this question should still pertain to the roadster list. When I turn the key to start the engine, I can hear the starter spin but it doesn't seem to be engaging the flywheel. It worked fine a few years ago, then it started to engage it off and on so I took it in to get fixed. Today was the first time I've gotten to test it since I got it "fixed" a couple of years ago and now it won't engage the flywheel at all. I'm thinking that it's either a bad solenoid or else it's not getting enough power to activate the solenoid. From what I've read on 510 websites, some people have put a relay between the solenoid/starter and the ignition to get around a similer (or possibly the same problem). If anyone can help stear me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it. I feel like this car will never get back on the road! Thanks, Matt Peterson '68 1600 (L20b) Houston, MN ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 22:43:43 2008 From: "Bubba" To: , Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:43:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] List topic Everyone getting ready should dot all the "i's" and cross all the "t's" to ensure a great time. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:34 PM Subject: [Roadsters] List topic > This is the most list activity I've seen in quite some time. I can > remember > when this was the Datsun Roadster list instead of the English 101 list. > Watkins Glen is just a little over a month away. I hope everyone has > their cars > ready for the trip, regardless of how you spell or punctuate it... > > Mike > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 22:53:37 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "peter harrison" , Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:53:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of an insect or crustacean. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling > Of course an argument could me made for 'antennae' as opposed to > 'antennas' > then we would be forced to use 'millenia' and indeed 'fora'. ANd how many > people remember that data is plural? > >> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:21:16 -0700> From: >> vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com> > To: roadster@astound.net; aultgc@att.net> CC: > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > i'm lysdexic too.> > > ----- > Original > Message ----> From: Fred Katz > To: Gary and Cindy > Ault > > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, > July > 23, 2008 11:08:41 PM> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling> > A while > back > (okay, years) a technician I supervised always wrote > "mircowave" instead > of > "microwave". We had some microwave antennas on > the roof and associated > equipment to maintain. He misspelled lots of > words, but this one in > particular drove me nuts for years. Never could > get him to write it > correctly. He insisted he was doing it right and > would voice out the > letters > correctly. A brain problem. Highly > intelligent otherwise.> > Sorry, no > Dotsun content.> > Fred - So.SF> You are subscribed as > vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > > http://www.team.net/archive> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> > ________________________________________> Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as > granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > > http://www.team.net/archive> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 00:40:05 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: matthew peterson Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems > ...I can hear the starter spin but it doesn't seem to be engaging > the flywheel... it's either a bad solenoid or else it's not getting > enough power to activate the solenoid. If the starter spins, the solenoid has already pulled in. You've got something broken in the solenoid or Bendix. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 05:35:02 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'John F Sandhoff'" , "'matthew peterson'" Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:35:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems If the starter spins, the solenoid has already pulled in. You've got something broken in the solenoid or Bendix. -- John -------------------------------- Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet? Might just be stuck from sitting. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 06:01:08 2008 From: Mike Harper To: 'John F Sandhoff' , 'matthew peterson' Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems Probably dried up old grease sticking the Bendix. BTDT Mike SC --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems > To: "'John F Sandhoff'" , "'matthew peterson'" > Cc: "'roadster list'" > Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 7:35 AM > If the starter spins, the solenoid has already pulled in. > You've got something broken in the solenoid or Bendix. > > -- John > -------------------------------- > > Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a > hammer yet? > Might just be stuck from sitting. > > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 07:00:12 2008 From: Durf & Sue Hyson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:00:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Jeez ! I didn't know data was plural . Does that make the statement "I didn't know dat ." correct ? By the way , in some portions of the country it is accepted that the "sensitive outgrowth on the head" is where the beer bottle made contact .......................... Durf Bubba wrote: > No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of an insect or > crustacean. > >> ANd how many >> people remember that data is plural? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 07:02:50 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Durf & Sue Hyson" Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:04:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling according to spellcheck, "Datsun" is not a word... Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 07:10:02 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: dhyson@charter.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:10:00 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling Singular of data is datum. kw In a message dated 7/25/2008 6:01:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dhyson@charter.net writes: Jeez ! I didn't know data was plural . Does that make the statement "I didn't know dat ." correct ? By the way , in some portions of the country it is accepted that the "sensitive outgrowth on the head" is where the beer bottle made contact .......................... Durf Bubba wrote: > No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of an insect or > crustacean. > >> ANd how many >> people remember that data is plural? You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 07:37:45 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:38:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Thriller in Willard Fun Run - July 26th Forwarded from the Bluebirds list... -----Original Message----- From: bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of julie@510coop.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:30 PM To: Bluebird List Subject: Thriller in Willard Fun Run - July 26th For those of you in and around the Portland, Oregon/Vancouver, Washington area there is an awesome Fun Run happening this Saturday, July 26th to a little town called Willard...my old stompin' grounds. Meet up around 10am in the parking lot of the Fred Meyer in Vancouver along Hwy 14. The address is 2500 Columbia House Boulevard, Vancouver Wa. See: http://www.datsunsnw.org/Events/#Willard for a map. A thrilling drive along Hwy 14 then up into the hills to negotiate hairpin turns, steep climbs, and narrow country roads. Pack a lunch and we'll have a picnic in Willard...because there are no restaurants in Willard. We'll take a short trip up some even more remote country roads...you might even see some elk. We'll head back down to Hwy 14 through Underwood which features more twisty fun roads and breathtaking views of the Columbia River Gorge. We'll retrace our route along Hwy 14 with perhaps a side trip through Carson...then back up over Cape Horn to Vancouver. It's about 50 miles to the Willard turnoff then another 7 miles up the hill to Willard. questions? Email me. Julie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 07:40:38 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:41:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 411 and available roadsters I've had a few inquiries about the 411, sorry but that one's already spoken for. just posted the pix for eye candy but it's going to a very good home :-) still have a lot of good project roadsters available ;-) 1500's both single and dual carb, 1600's including a 20k original mile high windshield and a 35k original mile low windshield, 2000's including a handful of 67.5's, race roadsters...have a couple L20B's here too if anyone's looking for one. need to pay for my daughter's first 4 college courses by august 6th...she plans to have 2 years of college done by the time she graduates high school- dual enrollment is pretty cool :-) she couldn't wait to be born either- was a 27 week baby... that's 3 months early if you don't want to count Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 07:56:02 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, 'John F Sandhoff' , Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as "manual agitation". Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet? Might just be stuck from sitting. Paul Ohio You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 08:48:29 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:48:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] $150 1970 2000 project in Sacramento Don't know nuthin'. Just passing it along: ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 09:49:18 2008 From: John Wightman To: Gary McCormick Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:49:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems I call that "percussive maintenance" :-) On Jul 25, 2008, at 6:56 AM, Gary McCormick wrote: > The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as > "manual agitation". > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet? > Might just be stuck from sitting. > > Paul > Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 10:10:41 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:11:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems I always liked "beat it to $h!t, paint it to fit." -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Wightman Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:49 AM To: Gary McCormick Cc: roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems I call that "percussive maintenance" :-) On Jul 25, 2008, at 6:56 AM, Gary McCormick wrote: > The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as > "manual agitation". > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet? > Might just be stuck from sitting. > > Paul > Ohio Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 11:38:39 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:39:59 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] SRL311-00402 is sold for all who have inquired or waited too long, the car is sold and new owner is delighted to have gotten that quality of a car for the price I offered it out at. anyone up near Seattle looking for a project high windshield 2000? Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 11:47:26 2008 From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Help, I'm snapping off bolt heads! While removing the left front frender, I easily sheared off both bolt heads holding the bottom of the fender near the door. It looks like I still need to remove the doors to get to the remaining bolts holding on the fender. So, before I break every bolt on this old car, can someone recommend the proper way to remove old bolts? The bolts don't look rusted, but since they haven't ever been removed, I fear I'll break off the next ten I touch with my rachet. Also, what's the best process to remove the two broken bolts I now have? Dave Cooke 69 1600 Lake In The Hills, IL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 13:13:47 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: cookefam314@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:13:41 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Help, I'm snapping off bolt heads! One of my favorite rust penetrants is a half and half mix of acetone and ATF. Works well and is cheap to boot. I read about some testing a while back where it beat all the high priced stuff. Before removing any body hardware I soak them with it and let it sit for a bit. If you can get to both sides even better. Once the fastener starts turning shoot a little more on the threads. If it turns tight you can spray a little on then turn it back in then back it out again. This works the stuff into the threads. For ones that are really tight warm them with a propane torch then spray. This helps to draw it in. The ones on the bottom of the fender near the door are often buggers. Water tends to get inside the panel and rust the captive nuts and bolt threads. To get the broken ones out, start by soaking them in the rust penetrant and heat with the propane torch. With any luck there will be a little stub left that you can get hold of with a pair of locking pliers and turn them out. Another trick is to weld a nut to the stub so you have something to get a hold of. Also, you can center drill the broken bolt. Sometimes they till turn and just run through the captive nut and fall inside the body panel. I haven't had any luck with easy outs. With some I start with a small drill and go up step at a time. With care you can remove the bolt and leave the threads in the captive nut. Then you run a tap through the hole to clean up the threads. Once you do get it out stainless hardware with anti-seize or grease on the threads will make things easier next time. keith In a message dated 7/25/2008 10:48:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cookefam314@yahoo.com writes: While removing the left front frender, I easily sheared off both bolt heads holding the bottom of the fender near the door. It looks like I still need to remove the doors to get to the remaining bolts holding on the fender. So, before I break every bolt on this old car, can someone recommend the proper way to remove old bolts? The bolts don't look rusted, but since they haven't ever been removed, I fear I'll break off the next ten I touch with my rachet. Also, what's the best process to remove the two broken bolts I now have? Dave Cooke 69 1600 Lake In The Hills, IL You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 15:18:22 2008 From: matthew peterson To: Gary McCormick , Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems Well, I tried "manually agitating" the solenoid and starter to no avail. By the way, what is the "Bendix"? Should I try replacing just the solenoid or should I replace the starter/solenoid as a set? Thanks, Matt Peterson Houston, MN ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary McCormick To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>; John F Sandhoff ; matthew peterson Cc: roadster list Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:56:09 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as "manual agitation". Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet? Might just be stuck from sitting. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 15:25:01 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Gary McCormick'" , "'John F Sandhoff'" Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:19:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems Manual Agitation? Is that caused by a lack of manual motivation or manual agrivation?? Paul Ohio From: Gary McCormick [mailto:gkmcc@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:56 AM To: Paul; 'John F Sandhoff'; 'matthew peterson' Cc: 'roadster list' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as "manual agitation". Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet? Might just be stuck from sitting. Paul Ohio You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 15:33:41 2008 From: Herb Petty To: "Datsun List." Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Broken bolts / heads Being a Retired tool & die maker, I couldn't have said it any better than Kieth ! The key word if your kinda new to this, is ( Patience ) Note, all of these threads are S.a.e. American Standard ( Fine ) At least they were from the facyory ! Best of luck, Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 15:49:58 2008 From: Herb Petty To: "Datsun List." Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] re I really do know how to spell Factory, just not good at typing He he heeeeeee_ Herb Petty Sorry Nancy. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 16:48:16 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:49:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What is the Bendix? (was "RE: Starter problems") -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of matthew peterson Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:15 PM To: Gary McCormick; Paul; John F Sandhoff Cc: roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems Well, I tried "manually agitating" the solenoid and starter to no avail. By the way, what is the "Bendix"? Should I try replacing just the solenoid or should I replace the starter/solenoid as a set? Thanks, Matt Peterson Houston, MN ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary McCormick To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>; John F Sandhoff ; matthew peterson Cc: roadster list Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:56:09 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as "manual agitation". Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet? Might just be stuck from sitting. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 18:09:37 2008 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:10:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Water Pipe I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape. But I was thinking of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with a pipe bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end. This would be close to the same shape as an original. My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where this would be? This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt the solder. SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 19:15:20 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" , Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:44:09 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Speeling.....bileeve it or knot! I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 20:38:13 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:38:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is the Bendix? (was "RE: Starter problems") Too complex for me . I need the "Starters for Dummies" link. I'm not ashamed to admit it either. LOL Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 3:49 pm Subject: [Roadsters] What is the Bendix? (was "RE: Starter problems") ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 02:05:13 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:04:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle roadsters and Lotus Super 7 yesterday one of my roadster friends told me he had a friend who always wanted a Rokon Trail-Breaker so I swapped that and some cash for his friend's project Lotus Super 7 and a Honda 305 Dream. part of what I do is wish fulfillment,.. so if any of you always wanted to own a Lotus 7, here's a window of opportunity for you. pix posted on my webshots site. no sheetmetal, gauges, tires, or engine. car looks pretty naked that way- pretty lightweight too! :-) there's a couple 2000's available fairly cheap up near Seattle right now, guy's asking $2k the pair. both were drivers when parked but outside for a long time. one had started to smoke I was told. I'm waiting on photos of those- contact me offlist if interested. the Lotus is on the east coast. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 08:00:18 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:40:27 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. I've seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine. keith In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net writes: I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape. But I was thinking of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with a pipe bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end. This would be close to the same shape as an original. My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where this would be? This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt the solder. SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 09:14:21 2008 From: ROBERT GIEL To: Roadsters Group DATSUN Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:43:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Speeling.....bileeve it or knot! It may not matter to the human mind, but my spell checker is having a nervous breakdown! bob (Still lurking in Los Angeles), w/ 1966 SPL311 1600 Short Windshield ______ _____ _____ ____ On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:44:09 +0930 "Graeme" wrote: Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Speeling.....bileeve it or knot! To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" , Message-ID: <000601c8eebc$ea49da30$236fa8c0@desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 13:00:17 2008 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'Dave Brisco'" , "'Datsun List.'" Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:46:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling (It costs money you know) OMG, Did I write Follow? How hilarious indeed! My spelling skills stink, and I rely heavily on spell checkers which I have to train due to technical writing. I usually rewrite & proofread my documents several times, so missing "Follow" humbles me. :):) Another side note to our off Roadster digressions: At work, my engineering team calls our CEO/owner "The Professor", as he corrects all of our documents and grades them. It's often abusive, but great! I work with many young bright engineers with non-English accents, who need moderate to severe help in writing. We have Spanish, East Indian, Chinese & Russian interpretations of English in our emails & documents. The best part is we're trying to get ISO certified by the end of the year, so we're going through every document to clean up English & technical errors. It has brought up the fact that it costs real money for these errors. We pay 1.5 times for these documents. The authors time to create it & the proof-readers time to fix it. Walt (I wrote & rewrote, spellchecked & re-formatted 3-times) Peterson. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Brisco [mailto:EastCoastRoadster@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:54 PM To: 'Walter Peterson'; 'Datsun List.' Subject: RE: [Roadsters] spelling This is the most popular subject in years.... Walter, since you were proofreading, weren't you the "follow engineer"? would he then be the lead engineer? :) To err is human, but to make a spelling error while commenting on a grammatical error is a classic. :):) (I hope I spelled "err" correctly, that would be even funnier.) Nancy will be deducting points. Dave Brisco EastCoastRoadster.com -----Original Message----- From: Walter Peterson [mailto:Walter.Peterson@cox.net] "To air on the side of caution". I just caught a follow engineer write this in a report before he could send it out; and his mother is an English teacher! Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Herb Petty Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:07 AM To: Datsun List. Subject: [Roadsters] spelling Go Get'em Nancy I love it. Herb in Modesto, hi gary. You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 13:29:31 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:10:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling (It costs money you know) Nicely done. A+. Go to the head of the class Linda -----Original Message----- From: Walter Peterson To: 'Dave Brisco' ; 'Datsun List.' Sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:46 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] spelling (It costs money you know) OMG, Did I write Follow? How hilarious indeed! My spelling skills stink, and I rely heavily on spell checkers which I have to train due to technical writing. I usually rewrite & proofread my documents several times, so missing "Follow" humbles me. :):) Another side note to our off Roadster digressions: At work, my engineering team calls our CEO/owner "The Professor", as he corrects all of our documents and grades them. It's often abusive, but great! I work with many young bright engineers with non-English accents, who need moderate to severe help in writing. We have Spanish, East Indian, Chinese & Russian interpretations of English in our emails & documents. The best part is we're trying to get ISO certified by the end of the year, so we're going through every document to clean up English & technical errors. It has brought up the fact that it costs real money for these errors. We pay 1.5 times for these documents. The authors time to create it & the proof-readers time to fix it. Walt (I wrote & rewrote, spellchecked & re-formatted 3-times) Peterson. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 14:02:20 2008 From: "dave" To: " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:42:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 68 1600 for sale..New Jersey I need to sell my "extra" Roadster ASAP, losing the space. It's a 68, a decent driver, has some east coast rust issues, but not bad. Runs drives stops well, but needs a head gasket. Car is BRIGHT RED with a decent white interior. Has a good high windshield top frame, but somebody put low windshield canvas on it. Fits and works, but looks a bit silly. Comes with a free hardtop. Will sell for $1600.00 as it is. I can deliver in the North East, Maine to Virginia, for actual cost of transport, so gas and $125.00 for the trailer rental. It's going on Ebay tonight, with a $1600.00 reserve, $2000.00 buy it now but will have a "subject to local sale" clause. Pictures avail, just email. Or call. Dave Brisco EastCoastRoadster.com 908-591-9892 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 15:22:43 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:52:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] SPL213-00004 update I've decided to have the 213 professionally restored, most likely by Ross Mullen. haven't heard back from him yet, he's unavailable until the 27th. I have heard back from Barrett-Jackson, they are definitely very interested in consigning the car when the restoration is complete. 'course they probably tell everyone that ;-) they have seen the photos of the car "as found" I gave Ross rights of first refusal on the car if I decided to sell it, he was the first to contact me after I bought the car. pretty exciting :-) one way or the other I'm looking to have the car done by next summer. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 17:05:29 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: chalsted@comcast.net Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:00:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SPL213-00004 update Craig Bite the bullet and keep the car after it's done. There are few greater roadster fans than you. The car belongs in your stable not in the garage of some rich ambulance chaser that wants a trophy to trailer around. Yes you might make a few bucks but I doubt you will make a killing so give the car the home it deserves. YOURS. Dave M -----Original Message----- From: chalsted To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 4:52 pm Subject: [Roadsters] SPL213-00004 update I've decided to have the 213 professionally restored, most likely by Ross Mullen. haven't heard back from him yet, he's unavailable until the 27th. I have heard back from Barrett-Jackson, they are definitely very interested in consigning the car when the restoration is complete. 'course they probably tell everyone that ;-) they have seen the photos of the car "as found" I gave Ross rights of first refusal on the car if I decided to sell it, he was the first to contact me after I bought the car. pretty exciting :-) one way or the other I'm looking to have the car done by next summer. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 20:06:31 2008 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: , Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:03:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe hanks for the info Keith. I have pipe sitting around, so I may try to fabricate something to see how it looks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. I've seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine. keith In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net writes: I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape. But I was thinking of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with a pipe bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end. This would be close to the same shape as an original. My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where this would be? This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt the solder. SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 20:37:32 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:36:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta Pix Finally Posted I finally got enough time to put together the pictures I took during the 24th Shasta roadster meet. They are on datsun2000.com @ www.datsun2000.com/shasta_08 Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 21:37:48 2008 From: jim williams To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] What Type of Hood Insulation? What did Datsun use for insulation material under the hood and deck lid of 1600 roadsters? All I have left is yellow strains of insulation hanging down. Can the original be purchased somewhere? Thanks Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 22:55:08 2008 From: "stan" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:53:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning Hello all! Note I will be using spell check with this email. Anyways, I have been trying to tune my SU carbs for my 69-1600 and seem to have hit a stumbling block. I understand how to set the idle screws for each carb, as well as sync them using a syncronometer. I've don't that successfully. As far as setting the jet height under each carb I haven't figured that one out yet. I turned the mixture screw in all the way and then turned it out 2 turns as suggested on several of the websites. >From there no adjustments have been made. Here is what I've run into so far: * the motor fires up fine and idles so-so * when I rev the motor slowly the rpm's increase nicely * when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and several backfire pops occur What I cannot figure out is that at high RPM's I can punch the throttle and it will respond quite well. What would cause it to backfire so heavily at low rpm's? I would assume non-sync'd carbs but as I stated I balanced them out quite well. If anyone can help me out I would greatly appreciate it. Best regards Cheers from sunny Vancouver, BC Stan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 00:55:55 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: stan Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning > when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and > several backfire pops occur Sounds like there's no oil in the dashpots. Unscrew those little black plastic caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods out, and drop them back in. They shouldn't just drop down - they should 'squish' thru a tiny pool of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil (10w-30), some Marvel Mystery Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans fluid). Takes only a couple of tablespoons or so. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 01:11:02 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:10:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in Reading California I got the pix of the Craigslist car this evening and after talking to the seller sent her a $200 downpayment by PayPal against her asking price of $3200. balance to be a cashier's check this week. afterwards she sent me another e-mail about the deal, seemed a bit nervous as she wanted all cash and my name is unfamiliar to her. I can't access the money until monday to get it to her tuesday but she seems uncomfortable with the deal now... can someone who knows me call her off the Craigslist Redding listing and reassure her that she will get the money as promised by me? I'd really appreciate it. or if you're nearby and can give her $3k cash for me tomorrow, I'll have the funds to you by tuesday if you need me to fed ex or however, I have it now. any assistance anyone can give me is appreciated.. and if there be anyone who would back door me on the deal, bad karma for you, bummer for me. really, I don't buy up every roadster in sight. out there only 67.5 1600 or 2000's and the occasional super rare unusual like SPL213-00004. I have been looking for a 67.5 with a nice body that I could afford for quite a while now. might even use it to rebody SRL311-00006 and drive it to the Glen this fall ;-) only had it for 20 plus years... Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 06:58:36 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:29:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roman Rist? sorry for the bandwidth, if memory serves me right Roman Rist handcrafts and sells absolutely beautiful acoustic guitars, the kind that almost make you want to cry with joy and catch your breath when you hold them in your hands.... anyone know how to reach him these days? I'm working on a website and would like to include a link for him if he has a website. I know I saw photos once upon a time somewhere no worries, plan to include links to everyone I know who wants to be linked to. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 07:44:53 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: sandhoff@csus.edu, stathy@shaw.ca Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:27:33 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning What he said. keith In a message dated 7/26/2008 11:56:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sandhoff@csus.edu writes: > when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and > several backfire pops occur Sounds like there's no oil in the dashpots. Unscrew those little black plastic caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods out, and drop them back in. They shouldn't just drop down - they should 'squish' thru a tiny pool of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil (10w-30), some Marvel Mystery Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans fluid). Takes only a couple of tablespoons or so. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 08:46:20 2008 From: "Mark Dent" To: "chalsted" , Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:20:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roman Rist? Romans site is http://www.ristguitars.com/ -------------------------------------------------- From: "chalsted" Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:29 AM To: Subject: [Roadsters] Roman Rist? > sorry for the bandwidth, if memory serves me right Roman Rist handcrafts > and > sells absolutely beautiful acoustic guitars, the kind that almost make you > want to cry with joy and catch your breath when you hold them in your > hands.... anyone know how to reach him these days? I'm working on a > website > and would like to include a link for him if he has a website. I know I saw > photos once upon a time somewhere no worries, plan to include links to > everyone I know who wants to be linked to. > > Craig > Datsun Roadsters mostly... > http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark@dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 10:02:21 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:41:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning Keith, For those of us that are still technically challenged, ... can you break that down for us? (:-) Paul -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning What he said. keith In a message dated 7/26/2008 11:56:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sandhoff@csus.edu writes: > when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and > several backfire pops occur Sounds like there's no oil in the dashpots. Unscrew those little black plastic caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods out, and drop them back in. They shouldn't just drop down - they should 'squish' thru a tiny pool of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil (10w-30), some Marvel Mystery Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans fluid). Takes only a couple of tablespoons or so. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 10:32:35 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:12:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Auto Rotisserie Just curious, I have been looking for a used autobody rotisserie (one I can BBQ chicken on too. Just kidding) There are no used ones that ever pop up. I would think this is the kind of tool that is bought,used once and sold all the time. Not so. Is it people are afraid to sell because of shipping? Any thoughts. Eastwood has a nice one but I would rather buy used. Dave ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 11:19:55 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roman Rist? Our local guy is here http://www.petilloguitars.com/history.php JimG --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Mark Dent wrote: > From: Mark Dent > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roman Rist? > To: "chalsted" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 10:20 AM > Romans site is http://www.ristguitars.com/ > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "chalsted" > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:29 AM > To: > Subject: [Roadsters] Roman Rist? > > > sorry for the bandwidth, if memory serves me right > Roman Rist handcrafts > > and > > sells absolutely beautiful acoustic guitars, the kind > that almost make you > > want to cry with joy and catch your breath when you > hold them in your > > hands.... anyone know how to reach him these days? > I'm working on a > > website > > and would like to include a link for him if he has a > website. I know I saw > > photos once upon a time somewhere no worries, plan to > include links to > > everyone I know who wants to be linked to. > > > > Craig > > Datsun Roadsters mostly... > > http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as mark@dealermats.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 12:53:04 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: 9laser3@bright.net Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:27:18 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning When the piston is sitting where it wants to be for the engine load condition the mixture is correct. When it's forced low the mixture will be rich. When forced high the mixture will be lean. On acceleration you need to run a richer mixture for a short time. If the piston is allowed to move freely the mixture will remain correct for constant speed running but it will be too lean for acceleration. The dash pot oil damps the rise of the piston forcing it to be temporarily lower than the steady state level. This enrichens the mixture for acceleration. The speed of rise and thus the amount of enrichening can be varied with the weight of the dash pot oil. Too thin or missing and you go lean and stumble. Too thick and you go too rich and have a boggy, soft acceleration. Just right and you have a crisp acceleration. The factory oil is about a 10w, the same as ATF. You want the thinnest oil that controls the stumbling. Motorcycle fork oil comes in a number of weights and in convenient screw top bottles. A medical syringe available at the feed and seed store with a short piece of vacuum line is ideal for changing dash pot oil. How's that? keith In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:42:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 9laser3@bright.net writes: Keith, For those of us that are still technically challenged, ... can you break that down for us? (:-) Paul -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning What he said. keith In a message dated 7/26/2008 11:56:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sandhoff@csus.edu writes: > when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and > several backfire pops occur Sounds like there's no oil in the dashpots. Unscrew those little black plastic caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods out, and drop them back in. They shouldn't just drop down - they should 'squish' thru a tiny pool of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil (10w-30), some Marvel Mystery Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans fluid). Takes only a couple of tablespoons or so. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 13:20:26 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:04:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning I was just kidding, but it's always great to hear some words of wisdom from the slow SU guy! Paul From: Keith0alan@aol.com [mailto:Keith0alan@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:27 PM To: 9laser3@bright.net Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning When the piston is sitting where it wants to be for the engine load condition the mixture is correct. When it's forced low the mixture will be rich. When forced high the mixture will be lean. On acceleration you need to run a richer mixture for a short time. If the piston is allowed to move freely the mixture will remain correct for constant speed running but it will be too lean for acceleration. The dash pot oil damps the rise of the piston forcing it to be temporarily lower than the steady state level. This enrichens the mixture for acceleration. The speed of rise and thus the amount of enrichening can be varied with the weight of the dash pot oil. Too thin or missing and you go lean and stumble. Too thick and you go too rich and have a boggy, soft acceleration. Just right and you have a crisp acceleration. The factory oil is about a 10w, the same as ATF. You want the thinnest oil that controls the stumbling. Motorcycle fork oil comes in a number of weights and in convenient screw top bottles. A medical syringe available at the feed and seed store with a short piece of vacuum line is ideal for changing dash pot oil. How's that? keith In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:42:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 9laser3@bright.net writes: Keith, For those of us that are still technically challenged, ... can you break that down for us? (:-) Paul -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning What he said. keith In a message dated 7/26/2008 11:56:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sandhoff@csus.edu writes: > when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and > several backfire pops occur Sounds like there's no oil in the dashpots. Unscrew those little black plastic caps on top of the domes. Lift the rods out, and drop them back in. They shouldn't just drop down - they should 'squish' thru a tiny pool of oil. Add 20W, a splash of engine oil (10w-30), some Marvel Mystery Oil, or some ATF (any brand auto trans fluid). Takes only a couple of tablespoons or so. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA _____ Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 15:08:33 2008 From: "stan" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:52:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is) Dashpot oil! Don't I feel like a fool. Now my motor hums like a (I won't say it). Anyways, thanks to John and Keith (hope I didn't forget anyone)for their suggestions and especially Keith who set me up with his website detailing Tuning of SU's. I can really see how fun it can be when you start fiddling around with Carbs. Especially when you start to tweak them here and there. You almost feel in tune with them. No pun intended. Cheers! Stan -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of stan Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:53 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning Hello all! Note I will be using spell check with this email. Anyways, I have been trying to tune my SU carbs for my 69-1600 and seem to have hit a stumbling block. I understand how to set the idle screws for each carb, as well as sync them using a syncronometer. I've don't that successfully. As far as setting the jet height under each carb I haven't figured that one out yet. I turned the mixture screw in all the way and then turned it out 2 turns as suggested on several of the websites. >From there no adjustments have been made. Here is what I've run into so far: * the motor fires up fine and idles so-so * when I rev the motor slowly the rpm's increase nicely * when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and several backfire pops occur What I cannot figure out is that at high RPM's I can punch the throttle and it will respond quite well. What would cause it to backfire so heavily at low rpm's? I would assume non-sync'd carbs but as I stated I balanced them out quite well. If anyone can help me out I would greatly appreciate it. Best regards Cheers from sunny Vancouver, BC Stan You are subscribed as stathy@shaw.ca Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 15:24:07 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:05:43 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe What water pipe are you talking about? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "JohnnyRoadster" > hanks for the info Keith. I have pipe sitting around, so I may try to > fabricate something to see how it looks. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith0alan@aol.com > To: JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe > > > With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. I've > seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine. > > keith > > In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net writes: > I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape. But I was > thinking > of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with a > pipe > bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end. This would be > close to > the same shape as an original. > > My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where this > would be? This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt the > solder. > > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 15:25:33 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:09:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Thriller in Willard Looks like y'all had a fun day. Roadsters are noticeably absent. Hmmmmm...... Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: julie@510coop.com > It was a great fun run today... > http://www.datsunsnw.org/PastEvents/index.htm#Willard > > About ten cars went. Once we got to Willard, a guy in a Volvo pulled in > and said he worked for the Washington State Department of Tourism and > had been following us from the Bridge of the Gods near Stevenson (about > 20 miles). He had been looking for an opportunity to take photos of a > car club...and could he take photos of the cars? Of course was the > answer. He promised to email photos and links to where they'll be used. > > Julie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 16:57:29 2008 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: "Pete Peters" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:30:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe The one that is attached to the heat shield underneath the SU carbs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe > What water pipe are you talking about? > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "JohnnyRoadster" >> hanks for the info Keith. I have pipe sitting around, so I may try to >> fabricate something to see how it looks. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Keith0alan@aol.com >> To: JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe >> >> >> With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. >> I've >> seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine. >> >> keith >> >> In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net writes: >> I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape. But I was >> thinking >> of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with >> a >> pipe >> bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end. This would be >> close to >> the same shape as an original. >> >> My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where >> this >> would be? This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt >> the >> solder. >> >> >> SPL311-19356 >> http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 17:56:09 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:14:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe This one? Isn't the original copper? Why would you want to make one if your original is okay? Thanks. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "JohnnyRoadster" > The one that is attached to the heat shield underneath the SU carbs. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe > > > > What water pipe are you talking about? > > > > Pete > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "JohnnyRoadster" > >> hanks for the info Keith. I have pipe sitting around, so I may try to > >> fabricate something to see how it looks. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Keith0alan@aol.com > >> To: JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > >> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:40 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe > >> > >> > >> With water in it the temp will never get hot enough to melt solder. > >> I've > >> seen copper ones before and they seem to have worked fine. > >> > >> keith > >> > >> In a message dated 7/25/2008 5:10:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > >> JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net writes: > >> I cleaned mine off the other day, and it was in OK shape. But I was > >> thinking > >> of just making one out of copper pipe and bending it at one end with > >> a > >> pipe > >> bender, and the sweating a 'T' and bend the other end. This would be > >> close to > >> the same shape as an original. > >> > >> My question is, how hot does it get above the exhaust manifold where > >> this > >> would be? This idea would only work if it didn't get too hot to melt > >> the > >> solder. > >> > >> > >> SPL311-19356 > >> http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 19:56:58 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Gary McCormick" , "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:11:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems "Percussive maintenance". Worked very well on the main steam isolation check valves at Point Beach Nuclear Station until the NRC found out. I understand the standard was "Up to three blows with a 48 ounce hammer at a specific location on the valves." Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>; "'John F Sandhoff'" ; "'matthew peterson'" Cc: "'roadster list'" Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter problems > The other day I heard that (a smack with a hammer) referred to as "manual > agitation". > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > Sounds like a bad Bendix. Have you tried a smack with a hammer yet? > Might just be stuck from sitting. > > Paul > Ohio > You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 21:36:24 2008 From: "Stan Rasmussen" To: "'stan'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:03:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is) I'm glad to hear this news, I've found one place that carries Dashpot oil, does any one know of a common place to find it? http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/GGL9035/AddedFrom/Search2-DASHPOT/InvD etail.cfm -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of stan Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:52 PM To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is) Dashpot oil! Don't I feel like a fool. Now my motor hums like a (I won't say it). Anyways, thanks to John and Keith (hope I didn't forget anyone)for their suggestions and especially Keith who set me up with his website detailing Tuning of SU's. I can really see how fun it can be when you start fiddling around with Carbs. Especially when you start to tweak them here and there. You almost feel in tune with them. No pun intended. Cheers! Stan -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of stan Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:53 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Carb tuning Hello all! Note I will be using spell check with this email. Anyways, I have been trying to tune my SU carbs for my 69-1600 and seem to have hit a stumbling block. I understand how to set the idle screws for each carb, as well as sync them using a syncronometer. I've don't that successfully. As far as setting the jet height under each carb I haven't figured that one out yet. I turned the mixture screw in all the way and then turned it out 2 turns as suggested on several of the websites. >From there no adjustments have been made. Here is what I've run into so far: * the motor fires up fine and idles so-so * when I rev the motor slowly the rpm's increase nicely * when I punch the motor at low rpm's the motor gasps for air and several backfire pops occur What I cannot figure out is that at high RPM's I can punch the throttle and it will respond quite well. What would cause it to backfire so heavily at low rpm's? I would assume non-sync'd carbs but as I stated I balanced them out quite well. If anyone can help me out I would greatly appreciate it. Best regards Cheers from sunny Vancouver, BC Stan You are subscribed as stathy@shaw.ca Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1570 - Release Date: 7/24/2008 6:59 AM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 22:06:50 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:26:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What Type of Hood Insulation? Jim, There was no factory insulation under the hood or deck (trunk) lid of Datsun roadsters. I see no reason to add any. -- the engine compartment gets hot enough as is. So, your PO(s) screwed up the car in that regard. Which makes anything else they did suspect, unfortunately. Stay close to the List. There's a lot of experience out there. (In my case, 37 years with the same 1600/2000 doing my own mechanical maintenance.) Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim williams" To: Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:37 PM Subject: [Roadsters] What Type of Hood Insulation? > What did Datsun use for insulation material under the hood and deck lid of > 1600 roadsters? > All I have left is yellow strains of insulation hanging down. > Can the original be purchased somewhere? > Thanks > > Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 00:34:20 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:43:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is) I use Dexron ATF.. Marvel Mystery Oil made it ping on acceleration, luckily my daughter was kind enough to buy me a 2 qt can of MMO, asked for the little bottle :( I dumped the rest of the can in all my gas tanks. The Dodge ran better. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Rasmussen [mailto:razmataz@indy.net] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:04 PM To: 'stan'; 'Datsun Roadster List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is) I'm glad to hear this news, I've found one place that carries Dashpot oil, does any one know of a common place to find it? http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/GGL9035/AddedFrom/Search2-DASHPOT/InvD etail.cfm ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 01:35:58 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:57:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] WINE TASTING & BBQ / FUN RUN AUGUST 9 IN SHED, OREGON Bill and Karen Neil are hosting a wine tasting/BBQ at their home in Shed, Oregon, which is near Corvallis, on August 9th. The fun run begins around 10:30 AM, and the BBQ around 4 PM. See the NOWROC web site calendar page for complete information and RSVP info. http://www.nowroc.org/events/ This is a good opportunity for roadster owners from both North and South of the Corvallis area to meet and have a good time together. Also, I have added pictures to the Shasta pictures. I have also added notations about which cars won in their categories. http://www.datsun2000.com/shasta_08 Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 04:35:14 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Datsun roadster" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:58:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in california on craigslist I bought this car this weekend, made the deal and paypal'd her a deposit. the scumbags came out of the woodwork and have convinced her she should not honor our deal and she has now sent my deposit back. what the hell is wrong with you folks? a deal should be a deal. don't call me for roadster parts any more, shop is closed. I've been looking for a nice shell to rebody #5 2000 since 1979 that I could afford and now you guys are taking that away from me. I'm done, good luck and as they say scumbags usually get what they deserve in life. Craig I want everyone to let me know who buys the car, who screwed me out of it. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ----- Original Message ----- From: JustForeLu@aol.com To: chalsted@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: Re: your datsun roadster Hello Craig, We have shown the car to several people over the weekend, and low and behold there seems to be Great interest in my car. I have pulled it off of craigslist due to the overwhelming response. Today, I was offered a lot more then I listed the car for and I haven't made any decisions yet, I did enjoy talking with you and feel you would give my car a good home. Also, to let you know, I met a few people today that apparently Know you and said you were a good man to deal with, One offer is 4,800.00 cash. We were told also today the car is worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of 25,000 if it had the 2000 motor. We are feeling at this time that we need to look at all offers, and are not making a final decision until later this week. Thank you, Craig and we'll keep you posted! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 05:05:16 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Gerardo Magana" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:05:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in Reading California well, Gerardo, everyone who talked to her and looked at the car this weekend said she should have sold for more, and talked her into refunding my deposit. I'm done. screw everyone. I don't need this kind of crap in my life, and if Tim Miner ends up with the car... want to see movies of me having 30 roadsters crushed? if this car is stolen out from under me that's friggin' it. I'm done with west coast people who don't know what honesty or integrity are. they tried to get Jon to refund my deposit on #402, they've evidently screwed me out of my next deal... what the hell is the matter with you people out there? at least Jon and Kerry are honest. Craig Halsted lots of neat stuff but done keeping cars on the road for folks who just don't appreciate how much work what I do is... Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerardo Magana" To: "chalsted" Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in Reading California > Hello Craig, Give me her details nd I will call her. > Thanks, Gerardo > --- chalsted wrote: > >> I got the pix of the Craigslist car this evening and >> after talking to the >> seller sent her a $200 downpayment by PayPal against >> her asking price of >> $3200. balance to be a cashier's check this week. >> afterwards she sent me >> another e-mail about the deal, seemed a bit nervous >> as she wanted all cash and >> my name is unfamiliar to her. I can't access the >> money until monday to get it >> to her tuesday but she seems uncomfortable with the >> deal now... can someone >> who knows me call her off the Craigslist Redding >> listing and reassure her that >> she will get the money as promised by me? I'd really >> appreciate it. or if >> you're nearby and can give her $3k cash for me >> tomorrow, I'll have the funds >> to you by tuesday if you need me to fed ex or >> however, I have it now. any >> assistance anyone can give me is appreciated.. and >> if there be anyone who >> would back door me on the deal, bad karma for you, >> bummer for me. really, I >> don't buy up every roadster in sight. out there only >> 67.5 1600 or 2000's and >> the occasional super rare unusual like SPL213-00004. >> I have been looking for >> a 67.5 with a nice body that I could afford for >> quite a while now. might even >> use it to rebody SRL311-00006 and drive it to the >> Glen this fall ;-) only had >> it for 20 plus years... >> >> Craig >> Datsun Roadsters mostly... >> http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as gerardomagana@sbcglobal.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 05:05:32 2008 From: jim williams To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Hood Insulation Thanks I want to thank all those that took the time to answer the insulation question. Especially for the photos. I think that I will be able to at least get near the original look. Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 05:34:47 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:40:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] yellow 67.5 1600 in Redding well, the scumbags came out of the woodwork this weekend, talked Lucy into refunding my deposit so they could steal the car out from under me. actually you only made it part way there, my deposit won't come out of her account for 3-4 days so if you buy it in the meantime I'll tie you up in court. I've been looking for a nice shell to rebody #6 for over 20 years...selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the expenses of having a roadster obsession, a labor of love. if you folks don't have the decency, honesty, and integrity to appreciate that and will try to back door me on every deal I make, I'm not going to go to the trouble of selling parts anymore. my honest friends are welcome to contact me if they need parts but as for the new generation of roadster owners, someone's been skipping their ethics classes and I'm just not interested in dealing with folks with no more respect for life and other people (like me) than that. for my honest friends, I wish you all the best. for the ones who would steal cars out from under me, you can............ Craig used to sell Datsun Roadster parts Bye ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 06:34:51 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:47:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] free parts roadsters in Virginia last call I'm done with the part of my life where I strip out rusty old roadsters and save parts for everyone for when they might eventually need something. I have probably 15 or more hulks that I really hate to sell for scrap and if you want one come with a trailer and I'll give you one to haul away. most are rollers and have full suspension, steering, differentials, axle shafts, drums, ball joints... would rather give them to someone who has a use or need for those parts than just scrap them and the stuff is forever gone. I have a set of photos I haven't posted on webshots yet titled "10 minutes too late" of a roadster going thru the crusher... if it has a drivetrain, give me what the boneyard would give me for scrap, $200. the ones that are not gone by the end of the summer will be crushed. no free or cheap U20's or 5spds. Craig used to sell Datsun roadster parts to honest folks who cared... actually, I'll still sell to those people, it's the dishonest unethical ones I have no interest in dealing with. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 06:35:22 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:57:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] ethics, integrity, thieves I think I should post Lucy's list of folks who tried to get her to back out of the deal with me publicly to the list so the rest of you all know which of your fellow list members have problems with understanding ethics and integrity. Jon never told me and I didn't ask who was trying to back door me on #402... probably the same people. I believe it's a short list and a shame it reflects badly on the roadster community, they should be "shunned" by the rest of us. list would probably get pretty lively... should I or not? weigh in :-) maybe it's time to "out" these particular individuals. I may occasionally beat them to a deal, but at least it's all honest. Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 07:06:12 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:19:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] ot- any IPO and LLC specialists in the roadster if anyone on the list is a LLC and IPO specialist, or knows someone in that field that they trust, please contact me. you will be required to sign non-disclosure contracts even to talk with me about the offering, nothing shady involved I promise. thanks- Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 08:05:25 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: daveandlindab@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:13:08 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is) It doesn't have to be specifically dash pot oil. As long as it's the correct weight most any oil will do. ATF, MMM, Power steering fluid, engine oil, motorcycle fork oil all work well. 3 in 1 and WD-40 don't work so well. keith In a message dated 7/27/2008 11:34:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, daveandlindab@comcast.net writes: I use Dexron ATF.. Marvel Mystery Oil made it ping on acceleration, luckily my daughter was kind enough to buy me a 2 qt can of MMO, asked for the little bottle :( I dumped the rest of the can in all my gas tanks. The Dodge ran better. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Rasmussen [mailto:razmataz@indy.net] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:04 PM To: 'stan'; 'Datsun Roadster List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Carb tuning (And the winner is) I'm glad to hear this news, I've found one place that carries Dashpot oil, does any one know of a common place to find it? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 08:36:21 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: aultgc@att.net, cookefam314@yahoo.com, Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:36:50 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Help, I'm snapping off bolt heads! Rust is generally nasty stuff. Not only has the parent metal been eroded, rust is very abrasive, and it takes up more room than the parent metal. So you end up with the threads wedged tightly with grinding powder. Most always fasteners requiring "heroic measures" will fit looser than original and sometimes will be beyond reusing. Fortunately, most times this looser fit isn't a problem. When it is several methods, like your suggestion, are available. The first step in doing the repair is to get the silly thing apart in the first place with a minimum of damage. keith In a message dated 7/27/2008 6:16:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aultgc@att.net writes: I mean no criticism of Keith's advice. But, please remember that iron oxide -- rust -- is much harder than steel. So, rust flakes mixed among the threads tend to "screw" things up mightily by cutting new threads in a form one does not want. If one is lucky, one gets the bolt or screw out without breaking it off, and has enough base material left in the captive threads to re-tap and use the next larger fastener. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 08:36:53 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:39:23 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Water Pipe The original is steel. I spend a lot of time repairing them. A lack of anti-freeze eats them alive. Very few of the originals I get are leak free after I remove all the rust. keith In a message dated 7/27/2008 4:56:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ppeters914@comcast.net writes: This one? Isn't the original copper? Why would you want to make one if your original is okay? Thanks. Pete **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 11:31:04 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "John F Sandhoff" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:16:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67.5 1600 in california on craigslist Hi John, I don't think it's that Lucy is a dishonest person, just folks trying to convince her it's worth a lot more. I heard she has it relisted at $5k, someone told her was worth $4800. I don't agree but she may get lucky. I gave her the deposit at her full price of $3200, thought we had a deal, had asked about deposit and if she had a paypal account, she told me yes. after I sent she e-mailed that we hadn't made a deal after I told her the $$ was probably an e-check and wouldn't show completed for 3-4 business days. turned out it went straight to her so she had my deposit money. this morning I got notice that she'd reversed the transaction and it would take me 3-4 business days to get it back...if she thinks it's worth more than I was paying her, even though it overheats and has one door whacked and trim strip off, I wish her good luck. I think she's been given poor input or those folks didn't see the pix of the door. I would still like to get it for the $3200 I thought we agreed on but can not pay more, that's all there is to it. she has not returned my call or e-mail. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 11:54:55 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:33:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster ----- Original Message ----- From: JustForeLu@aol.com To: chalsted@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: Re: your datsun roadster Hello Craig, We have shown the car to several people over the weekend, and low and behold there seems to be Great interest in my car. I have pulled it off of craigslist due to the overwhelming response. Today, I was offered a lot more then I listed the car for and I haven't made any decisions yet, I did enjoy talking with you and feel you would give my car a good home. Also, to let you know, I met a few people today that apparently Know you and said you were a good man to deal with, One offer is 4,800.00 cash. We were told also today the car is worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of 25,000 if it had the 2000 motor. We are feeling at this time that we need to look at all offers, and are not making a final decision until later this week. Thank you, Craig and we'll keep you posted! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 11:55:07 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:44:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Losing my cool Hey Listers, Took the car out for a spin this last weekend and about 1/2 WAY through the drive I noticed the car starting to overheat so I headed home. When I got home I checled the front of the car and uh-oh... It looked like coolant had been splashed all over the grille. After the car cooled off enough I attempted to put some water back in and upon checking, saw a nice hole rght in the front of the radiator streaming water like it was taking a leak (literally). So it looks like the radiator is shot. So to the list I ask what is the best course of action? Do I just take it to a radiator shop to fix or should I buy a three row radiator? Do three rows make that much of a difference over the stock unit? Any help appreciated. Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 12:29:41 2008 From: geegc@aol.com To: solex675@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:11:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Losing my cool I did a re core years ago for my 1600 to three rows, worth the money IMHO Gary C -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Murphy To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:44 am Subject: [Roadsters] Losing my cool Hey Listers, Took the car out for a spin this last weekend and about 1/2 WAY through the drive I noticed the car starting to overheat so I headed home. When I got home I checled the front of the car and uh-oh... It looked like coolant had been splashed all over the grille. After the car cooled off enough I attempted to put some water back in and upon checking, saw a nice hole rght in the front of the radiator streaming water like it was taking a leak (literally). So it looks like the radiator is shot. So to the list I ask what is the best course of action? Do I just take it to a radiator shop to fix or should I buy a three row radiator? Do three rows make that much of a difference over the stock unit? Any help appreciated. Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 You are subscribed as geegc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 12:41:56 2008 From: "D Riedel" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:18:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling The word data is almost universally handled as singular, even in scientific publications that are peer-reviewed by people that peruse data for a living. I prefer to handle it correctly as a plural, but it's so uncommon, that I sometimes wonder if the reader will assume I made a mistake. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:10 AM, wrote: > Singular of data is datum. > > kw > > > In a message dated 7/25/2008 6:01:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dhyson@charter.net writes: > > Jeez ! I didn't know data was plural . Does that make the statement "I > didn't know dat ." correct ? > > By the way , in some portions of the country it is accepted that the > "sensitive outgrowth on the head" is where the beer bottle made contact > .......................... > > Durf > > Bubba wrote: >> No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of an insect or >> crustacean. >> >>> ANd how many >>> people remember that data is plural? > You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as stamuki@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 12:57:12 2008 From: wchmch@aol.com To: chalsted@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:36:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster 25,000??? B Is that right? We were told also today the car is worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of 25,000 if it had the 2000 motor. -----Original Message----- From: chalsted To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:33 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster ----- Original Message ----- From: JustForeLu@aol.com To: chalsted@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: Re: your datsun roadster Hello Craig, We have shown the car to several people over the weekend, and low and behold there seems to be Great interest in my car. I have pulled it off of craigslist due to the overwhelming response. Today, I was offered a lot more then I listed the car for and I haven't made any decisions yet, I did enjoy talking with you and feel you would give my car a good home. Also, to let you know, I met a few people today that apparently Know you and said you were a good man to deal with, One offer is 4,800.00 cash. We were told also today the car is worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of 25,000 if it had the 2000 motor. We are feeling at this time that we need to look at all offers, and are not making a final decision until later this week. Thank you, Craig and we'll keep you posted! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Footba ll today. You are subscribed as wchmch@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 13:27:07 2008 From: "Robbie Harrison" To: , , Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:13:08 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster Sure And the 67 1600 that I bought for $2000 in 2002 and sold for $2000 in June is surely worth the $10000 that the new owner put it up for on craigslist two weeks after he bought it from me. I wish him the best of luck - I got my asking price. But 10K for a 1600 that needs chrome, interior Sorry to hear you're getting jerked around Craig. And I sincerely hope that nobody on the list is involved. Robbie Harrison West Haven, CT 68 2000 "Midori" 69 2000 for parts -------Original Message------- From: wchmch@aol.com Date: 7/28/2008 2:57:52 PM To: chalsted@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster 25,000??? B Is that right? We were told also today the car is worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of 25,000 if it had the 2000 motor. -----Original Message----- From: chalsted To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:33 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster ----- Original Message ----- From: JustForeLu@aol.com To: chalsted@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: Re: your datsun roadster Hello Craig, We have shown the car to several people over the weekend, and low and behold there seems to be Great interest in my car. I have pulled it off of craigslist due to the overwhelming response. Today, I was offered a lot more then I listed the car for and I haven't made any decisions yet, I did enjoy talking with you and feel you would give my car a good home. Also, to let you know, I met a few people today that apparently Know you and said you were a good man to deal with, One offer is 4,800.00 cash. We were told also today the car is worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of 25,000 if it had the 2000 motor. We are feeling at this time that we need to look at all offers, and are not making a final decision until later this week. Thank you, Craig and we'll keep you posted! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Footba ll today. You are subscribed as wchmch@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of cat_side_en.gif] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 13:27:50 2008 From: "D Riedel" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:14:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws On a similar topic to the bolt heads... any hope of getting my sun-visor and rear-view assembly off? I've tried WD-40 so far without any success, but I'm reluctant to really twist hard in fear of deforming the phillips head and then never getting it off. Suggestions? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 13:43:27 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: WCHMCH@aol.com, chalsted@comcast.net, Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:27:57 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: your datsun roadster Generally the ones worth $25,000 have just had $30,000 worth of restoration work done on them. keith In a message dated 7/28/2008 11:57:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wchmch@aol.com writes: 25,000??? B Is that right? We were told also today the car is worth anywhere from 4,000 (needing complete restoration) and upwards of 25,000 if it had the 2000 motor. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 13:43:44 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: Geegc@aol.com, solex675@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:29:41 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Losing my cool I had a high density core put in. No more problems. keith In a message dated 7/28/2008 11:30:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, geegc@aol.com writes: I did a re core years ago for my 1600 to three rows, worth the money IMHO Gary C -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Murphy To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:44 am Subject: [Roadsters] Losing my cool Hey Listers, Took the car out for a spin this last weekend and about 1/2 WAY through the drive I noticed the car starting to overheat so I headed home. When I got home I checled the front of the car and uh-oh... It looked like coolant had been splashed all over the grille. After the car cooled off enough I attempted to put some water back in and upon checking, saw a nice hole rght in the front of the radiator streaming water like it was taking a leak (literally). So it looks like the radiator is shot. So to the list I ask what is the best course of action? Do I just take it to a radiator shop to fix or should I buy a three row radiator? Do three rows make that much of a difference over the stock unit? Any help appreciated. Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 13:59:53 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:36:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Fuse Box I have a Datsun schematic marked for the 1968 -1970 1600 & 2000 Sports. It was part of a book of Datsun schematics. This schematic has the double row of four (8 fuses) that I have seen on a 1970 and 1969. It also is wired for the side markers. I guess there are some things that can be ignored if they do not apply, but you would think they'd be marked to note their application. It seems to me this schematic would more accurately represent the 1969 & 1970. Anyway....... Did any of the 1968 models come with the double row fuse box and possibly with side markers stock? Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 14:29:40 2008 From: Herb Petty To: "Datsun List." Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Sell Selling Roadster's is like selling Motor-cycles. There's an a-- for every seat ( Revised P.T. Barnum ) My ol yellow car has introduced me to many many many great folks, that I would have missed out knowing. I've put a Ton of money in this car, take it from me, the smiles & great memories are all worth it. The car is secondary !! However as long as we're trying to boost the economy, $ 35,000.00 would be a proper approach !! Ha ha haaaaaaa Everyone have a great day, Herb Petty ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 15:43:02 2008 From: Loren Berg To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:17:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Losing my cool Andrew, If it used to run cool and the core is good, then all it needs is to be tanked, soldered (i.e. hole repaired), and pressure tested. Shouldn't cost more than $75. If it needs to be re-cored, then absolutely go for the 3-row. The increase in price from a 2-core is well worth it. - Loren (Minneapolis, MN) '68 1600 w/U20 & 5-sp '70 2000 parting out -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+lberg=minnetronix.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+lberg=minnetronix.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith0alan@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:30 PM To: Geegc@aol.com; solex675@hotmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Losing my cool I had a high density core put in. No more problems. keith In a message dated 7/28/2008 11:30:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, geegc@aol.com writes: I did a re core years ago for my 1600 to three rows, worth the money IMHO Gary C -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Murphy To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:44 am Subject: [Roadsters] Losing my cool Hey Listers, Took the car out for a spin this last weekend and about 1/2 WAY through the drive I noticed the car starting to overheat so I headed home. When I got home I checled the front of the car and uh-oh... It looked like coolant had been splashed all over the grille. After the car cooled off enough I attempted to put some water back in and upon checking, saw a nice hole rght in the front of the radiator streaming water like it was taking a leak (literally). So it looks like the radiator is shot. So to the list I ask what is the best course of action? Do I just take it to a radiator shop to fix or should I buy a three row radiator? Do three rows make that much of a difference over the stock unit? Any help appreciated. Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 16:16:44 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: "SlowBoy" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:53:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1968 Fuse Box > I have a Datsun schematic marked for the 1968 -1970 1600 & 2000 Sports. Your diagram is too generic. '68 has 6 fuses, no side marker lights. '69 started the 8-fuse box And as I recall, '70 had a little extra wiring for a solenoid on the intake manifold that was part of the smog setup. Or maybe I'm nuts. Over the years there have been some very nice diagrams put together by some of the list members. I thought they were on the 311s site but at first blush didn't see them. You can pull up a '68 and a 69-70 diagram, though, from Ross' site: I'm sure others will chime in with where the nifty color diagrams are. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 17:04:05 2008 From: "Leigh Brooks" To: "john f sandhoff" , "SlowBoy" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:43:18 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1968 Fuse Box Here's the link to the diagrams on 311s.org http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.WiringDiagrams

-----Original Message-----
From: "John F Sandhoff"
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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1968 Fuse Box

> I have a Datsun schematic marked for the 1968 -1970 1600
& 2000 Sports.

Your diagram is too generic.

'68 has 6 fuses, no side marker lights.
'69 started the 8-fuse box
And as I recall, '70 had a little extra wiring for a solenoid on the
intake manifold that was part of the smog setup. Or maybe I'm nuts.

Over the years there have been some very nice diagrams put together
by some of the list members. I thought they were on the 311s site
but at first blush didn't see them. You can pull up a '68 and a
69-70 diagram, though, from Ross' site:



I'm sure others will chime in with where the nifty color diagrams are.

-- John
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________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 17:51:55 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:34:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadster Craig, Sorry about the deal gone sour. It paints a sad picture of the times. On the other hand, you are a good friend, a gracious host, and an honest, fair and informed parts source. A deal is a deal, but if the seller feels they sold too low , especially if they get input after the fact, they forget they set the price and hate the buyer for ripping them off. You have the right to be ticked off, but it is still her car to do with as she wishes. It may work in your favor, I hope it does. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 Spike... bought from Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 21:02:55 2008 From: philip erickson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] resend deal because...... Craig and others, I had the same thing happen to me 7-8 years ago. I responded to an advertisement for a restored 67.5 2000 listed as must sell in Idaho....After talking to the owner, he honestly described that the car had been partially disassembled and cleaned, but not restored. Still a very nice car for my purpose - driver while I work on my 69. He wanted 10 or 11K for the car and I agreed. When I called to schedule a time for me to fly up to pay and pick-up the car I was told that several people had called him to tell him that a restored 67.5 2000 was worth more and he should resend the deal. I told him the best thing was for him to find a way to keep the car and enjoy the ride.......... Phil ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 21:31:45 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:30:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] resend deal because...... Who are these people whose mission it is to tell people they should back out of deals? What is their motivation? To sell parts? To buy the car? To screw with people? It seems like these days with just a minimal amount of effort you could ascertain the approx value of any car by: Kelly Bluebook, Emunds.com, EBAY, Craigslist, car clubs..in no particular order. So if you don't know the exact value of the car you are selling and make a deal then so be it. Considering that even the acknowledged experts on this list might disagree on value, it would be difficult for an amateur to know. I hope it wasn't anyone on these lists who tried the backdoor deal. If so I guess the moral is don't mention a possible buy as? it brings out the unethical. Linda -----Original Message----- From: philip erickson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 8:03 pm Subject: [Roadsters] resend deal because...... Craig and others, I had the same thing happen to me 7-8 years ago. I responded to an advertisement for a restored 67.5 2000 listed as must sell in Idaho....After talking to the owner, he honestly described that the car had been partially disassembled and cleaned, but not restored. Still a very nice car for my purpose - driver while I work on my 69. He wanted 10 or 11K for the car and I agreed. When I called to schedule a time for me to fly up to pay and pick-up the car I was told that several people had called him to tell him that a restored 67.5 2000 was worth more and he should resend the deal. I told him the best thing was for him to find a way to keep the car and enjoy the ride.......... Phil ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Jul 28 21:32:51 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: D Riedel Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:31:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Spelling It's been my experience that people who deal with technical DATA are not necessarily the people who will know the difference between DATA and DATUM. Sadly, widespread incorrect usage has been known to change the meaning of a word - the "dumbing down" of language... Give me a minute and I'll come up with an example. Gary McCormick San Jose D Riedel wrote: >The word data is almost universally handled as singular, even in >scientific publications that are peer-reviewed by people that peruse >data for a living. I prefer to handle it correctly as a plural, but >it's so uncommon, that I sometimes wonder if the reader will assume I >made a mistake. > >On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:10 AM, wrote: > > >>Singular of data is datum. >> >>kw >> >> >>In a message dated 7/25/2008 6:01:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>dhyson@charter.net writes: >> >>Jeez ! I didn't know data was plural . Does that make the statement "I >>didn't know dat ." correct ? >> >>By the way , in some portions of the country it is accepted that the >>"sensitive outgrowth on the head" is where the beer bottle made contact >>.......................... >> >>Durf >> >>Bubba wrote: >> >> >>>No problem, antennae are a sensitive outgrowth on the head of an insect or >>>crustacean. >>> >>> >>> >>>> ANd how many >>>>people remember that data is plural? >>>> >>>> >>You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com >> >>Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >>http://www.team.net/archive >> >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> >> >> >> >>**************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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I don't know if the laws will ever catch up, but there are some parallels in commercial advertising. Around here (WA), an advertisement constitutes a contract to sell. If a company misprints a price in an ad in the newspaper, for example, it is obligated to sell for the advertised price. Makes proof-reading very important. Even so, you can make a deal with a car dealer, sign all the papers and everything, and if your financing falls through, you're out of luck. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Beh