From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 00:26:18 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: Charles Kyle Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? > So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68. Based on the > serial number (SPL311-18896)... the body is a 68... The engine block > number is R05076... Overwhelming likelihood is that the engine was swapped at some point. Most of the 'drivers' have been, sometimes several times. I didn't look at the picture, but if the dash is flat metal and the mirror is attached to a pedestal on the dash, the body is before 1968. Two top latches as well. 68 and newer, the dash is padded (gauges are recessed), clock is rectangular, not circular, mirror clips onto the third top hinge in the center of the windshield frame. If the VIN plate is still there - hopefully it is or most DMV's get pretty upset - the original engine number is stamped into the plate. I'm betting your plate has a much higher number stamped on it than what's in the car. The frame VIN is located on the left frame rail, top surface, slightly behind the steering box (LH cars) or idler (RH cars). Likely obscured by grease and grime. Who knows - maybe you have a '66 that was rebodied. On the rear axle, right side, do you have the torque rod - attaches to a perch welded onto the axle housing, and a perch welded to the frame? '66 didn't have that, '68 did. I think it showed up starting 67 half year but don't quote me. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 00:40:50 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: Ken & Tammy Williams Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking... > I have always been hesitant to drive my '67 1600 for too long on the > interstate. I've done it, but at 70-ish it is turning 3500 rpm or so. The R16 hits max torque somewhere about 4100 rpm. Best fuel economy is around 3200-3600. This according to the factory shop manual. (2L top torque roughly about 4200 SU and 4800 Solex.) My 2L turns 4k at 80mph oops I mean 3k at 60mph in 5th. My 1600 spins a little faster 'cause I don't have the extra gear. Four bangers want to rev to make power, so 3500 is probably just waking it up. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 04:41:50 2008 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:41:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side mirrors Only if it's dry... Pete Peters wrote: >Lucas mirrors? Do they work at night? > >Pete "I crack myself up" > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > > >>Greg, >> >>I put Lucas wing mirrors (available from Moss Motors) on my '66, and am >>happy with them. If you want a picture, let me know. >> >>Gary Ault >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: >>To: >>Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:26 PM >>Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors >> >> >> >> >>>OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY >>>done on >>>the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!). I am looking >>>for >>>new side mirrors and asking for suggestions. I used to have "baby turbo" >>>mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and >>>tended to giggle a lot. I'm looking for some alternatives that people >>>have >>>liked (reasonably priced). Mirrors will be on both sides. My car as most >>>of >>>you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks good >>>and >>>actually works. >>>Thanks! >>>Greg Burrows >>>67 2000 >>>Bonney Lake, WA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 04:54:36 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:46:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking... If it bothers you and you normally drive freeways, you could swap out the ring & pinion for a 3.70 set of gears from a 2000. That would slow down the motor a little bit. Paul Ohio ----- Original message ---------------------- From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" > Hey guys and gals. The current discussion about driving across the country in > a roadster brought up a question. Maybe showing my ignorance, but here goes. > I have always been hesitant to drive my '67 1600 for too long on the > interstate. I've done it, but at 70-ish it is turning 3500 rpm or so. Is > that okay??? I'm a little bit of a wimp maybe?? Definitely too little of a > mechanic to know for sure. > Thanks, > Ken ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 05:07:13 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "John F Sandhoff" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:07:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking... I always have been under the impression that you can pull about 105 out of 3rd gear in a well tuned 2000 with it's original 3.7... only on a road course of course ;-) never have ridden with Victor but I have a feeling we both have similar fun driving. y'all should stop by and take a fun run on some of the roads near my place one of these days :-) don't wait too long...I'm really missing my blue roadster Phil got from me, it ran and "cranked" better than any other roadster I've ever owned after I finished working on it. wasn't too hurtful to the eye, either. have heard he might be willing to part with it.... I don't have the bucks but it's one heck of a good car. #292. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 06:36:08 2008 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: "Tim" , , Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:29:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side mirrors Last night I mounted two new mirrors on my 67. The original was pretty fogged up. I used the talbet type mirrors from Moss and mounted them in the stock location on the doors (drivers door is stock - new holes in right door). Location was a tough one - I really like this mirror on the fender but had the holes in the door to deal with. Another issue is "usability". The stock '66 fender location is nice but hard to see through. The door location is better, but it makes the right side not very useful. I have been messing with Roadsters for 30 years and I have never found a perfect location (that looks good) for mirrors. The good part. I also replaced the posts and new door handles (with new gaskets) so the doors look great now! Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:04 PM To: ljordan704@netscape.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side mirrors Which vendor sells the mirrors that were stock on these cars? I am referring to the style mirror on the cars that had two mirrors mounted on the fenders. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- ljordan704@netscape.net wrote: ============= Here's a link to some MG mirrors and stuff that can be used on our car: http://bhive.tierranet.com/412MGBexteriormirros.htm Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 06:37:40 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Oliver'" , "'Datsun Club'" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:37:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] one more part! Whatever it is, get it off the tablecloth before your wife sees it! Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oliver Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:20 AM To: Datsun Club Subject: [Roadsters] one more part! First of all, many thanks to Gordon, Henry, and Enrique! I never would have figured out the convertible top part or where it goes. hopefully i'm set for a while after i find out what's this??? www.ranteer.com/misc1 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 07:25:18 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:25:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] CL in LA Datsuns Saw these today, no connection to sellers. 68 1600, $3100 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/776641614.html 65, $1500, ready for resto or driver http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/776252670.html 67 1600, $1500, definitely ready for resto Claims to be early with late hardtop, but top looks tilted upwards, like it is a 68 with and early hardtop. Dash looks roundy too, not flat. But, CA titledd cars when you bought them, not by model year, so a December purchase of a '68 always reads '67, you can't change the year. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/771462868.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 09:22:50 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:22:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cross-Country, have I lost my mind? Nathan, Insane? Not even close. You have an opportunity for a higher level of "Roadster Merit Badge". While all suggestions concerning comfort are well advised, (my recommendation is ear plugs and a wide brimmed hat) I recently did the Iron Bottom, which for me was 1250 miles door-to-door in 3 days, and have nowhere near the mechanical expertise of the Young/Petty duo. (approx single digit % of the knowledge only ONE of them carries on the road) I think the key is knowing your car, so you are aware of changes along the way, and carry the spares (like Keith's list) accordingly. I only wish my mechanicals were as recently rebuilt as yours. I took my ramps to the car wash and pressure-washed the drivetrain and underside, so that I could easily tell if something "new" appeared. Take notes, we look forward to a good write-up! Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 09:26:21 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:26:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind? Nathaniel Towards the end of last year, I drove my 70 1600 from LA to DC and back - total of 8700+ miles and about 5 weeks. Engine was rebuilt 20K miles earlier. Problems - clogged fuel filter, and the driver side door winder broke. I took mostly back roads and found the @200 mile range perfectly sufficient. Granted I had a five speed box installed, but IMHO 70 at 3500 is a doddle for these cars. Have fun, let us know when you are planning to arrive and maybe we can organise a meting or something. Just go for it and have fun. Peter > From: nmleeds@mindspring.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:12:13 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?> > I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69 2000 and am> wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and we've> driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident. And> now its time to test fate.> > My preference is to take Highway 50 across the desert to stay away from the> big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about whether running the car all-out> for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in a part of the country where gas> stations are few and Datsun even fewer.> > Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's happened, what> breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to boneheaded> to take it?> > Nathaniel Leeds> '69 2000, SU> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 09:27:49 2008 From: "Matt Jacquet" To: "Charles Kyle" , Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:32:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? I'd say 68 Matt Jacquet spl311-18900 here's a picture of it's little brother -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Charles Kyle Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:52 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car? Hello all, So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68. Based on the serial number (SPL311-18896) and descriptions that I have read online, I defiantly think the body is a 68, high windshield. Now the engine might be something different. How can I tell? The engine block number is R05076 and the oil filter is the old canister type not the screw on, so is this a 66? Any thoughts? Chuck -- Chuck Mobile: 512-225-4501 Web site: www.chuckkyle.com Leavenworth Address: Chuck Kyle 514B Pawnee St Leavenworth KS 66048 DC Address: Chuck Kyle 7441 Collins Meade Way Alexandria, VA 22315 You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of dat4sun1.JPG] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 10:07:16 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:00:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind? Nathaniel Didn't notice you were driving a 2000. Surely at 3500 in 5th you should be doing more than 70. 4th should give you 20mph for each 1000 rpm and 5th about 25 or so. Even with 14" wheels I was getting about 80 in 5th. Peter If you want any tips - please feel free to give me a call. 818 448 3181 > From: granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:26:38 -0700> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I lost my mind?> > Nathaniel> > Towards the end of last year, I drove my 70 1600 from LA to DC and back -> total of 8700+ miles and about 5 weeks. Engine was rebuilt 20K miles earlier.> Problems - clogged fuel filter, and the driver side door winder broke.> > I took mostly back roads and found the @200 mile range perfectly sufficient.> > Granted I had a five speed box installed, but IMHO 70 at 3500 is a doddle for> these cars.> > Have fun, let us know when you are planning to arrive and maybe we can> organise a meting or something.> > Just go for it and have fun.> > Peter> > > > > From: nmleeds@mindspring.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date:> Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:12:13 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] Cross Country, have I> lost my mind?> > I'm planning a Colorado to California shot in the old '69> 2000 and am> wondering if I've lost my mind. Everything's rebuilt and new, and> we've> driven the 500 miles breaking-in period without recent major incident.> And> now its time to test fate.> > My preference is to take Highway 50 across> the desert to stay away from the> big trucks on the 80, but I'm worried about> whether running the car all-out> for 500 miles is such a smart thing to do in> a part of the country where gas> stations are few and Datsun even fewer.> >> Had anyone done this, or similar drives in their cars. What's happened, what>> breaks, and what advise to you have for someone who's probably to boneheaded>> to take it?> > Nathaniel Leeds> '69 2000, SU>> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net> http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as> granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >> http://www.team.net/archive> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 10:26:34 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:26:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] And another Datsun based kit car on CL Now here's an unusual piece. Too bad he didn't leave it U-20 powered. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/car/777671581.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 10:40:40 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:38:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] And another Datsun based kit car on CL ----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" > Now here's an unusual piece. Too bad he didn't leave it U-20 powered. > http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/car/777671581.html > ________________________________________ Had he done that, he wouldn't have to have it smogged. Steve 70' 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 10:42:44 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: Fergus.OFarrell@ngc.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:41:37 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] And another Datsun based kit car on CL Kinda cool. I don't know much about the 2TC engine, but I had a friend who had a 3TC in his Corolla... that was a fairly good motor. Had a Hemi head, and believe it or not, B&M made a supercharger for it years ago. My friend's had a radically stupid cam in his for awhile... came on at about 4000rpms, but man, after that it really hit hard. Was horrible on the street though and he eventually went back to stock. Greg Burrows -- "O'Farrell, Fergus" wrote: Now here's an unusual piece. Too bad he didn't leave it U-20 powered. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/car/777671581.html You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Click here for financial aid options. Quick and Easy. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4vDe4iFyOkPSBGRQoJimEGul VZ7emhvblanAaujc39J40e8G/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 10:57:13 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:57:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] And another Datsun based kit car on CL The 2TC engine was used in the earlier Corolla's mid-late '70's. Nice little engine I thought. I enjoyed mine. On 8/1/08, gregs672liter@netzero.net wrote: > > Kinda cool. I don't know much about the 2TC engine, but I had a friend who > had a 3TC in his Corolla... that was a fairly good motor. Had a Hemi head, > and believe it or not, B&M made a supercharger for it years ago. My > friend's > had a radically stupid cam in his for awhile... came on at about 4000rpms, > but > man, after that it really hit hard. Was horrible on the street though and > he > eventually went back to stock. > Greg Burrows > > -- "O'Farrell, Fergus" wrote: > Now here's an unusual piece. Too bad he didn't leave it U-20 powered. > http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/car/777671581.html > You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ____________________________________________________________ > Click here for financial aid options. 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If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 11:10:17 2008 From: "D Riedel" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:06:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip roads in North America? My particular interest would be the Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere. -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 11:25:12 2008 From: "Kevin McDonald" To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:20:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Riedel" > So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways > like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip > roads in North America? My particular interest would be the > Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere. That could be a lot of roads! North America currently consists of: Antigua and Barbuda The Bahamas Barbados Belize Canada Costa Rica Cuba Dominica Dominican Republic El Salvador Greenland (Kalaallit Nunaat) Grenada Guatemala Haiti Honduras Jamaica Mexico Nicaragua Panama Saint Kitts and Nevis Saint Lucia Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Trinidad and Tobago United States of America Just kidding around. Kevin ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 11:26:20 2008 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap and Cherohala Skyway, Graham Co, NC incredible road - was there about two years ago; am going back in september D Riedel wrote: So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip roads in North America? My particular interest would be the Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere. -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 11:41:28 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'O'Farrell, Fergus'" , Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:39:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CL in LA Datsuns A '68 with '69 side lights? Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- Saw these today, no connection to sellers. 68 1600, $3100 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/776641614.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 11:42:27 2008 From: matthew peterson To: roadster list Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Starter Problem Continued Hi all, Thanks to everyone for all the responses. I've got a better understanding of how the bendix works now. Last night I took the starter off the engine and engaged it by jumping the two posts on the solenoid. The first few times I did it the gear never flung out. After 5-6 times of doing this it started to move and eventually it started to fling out right as I jumped the posts. So I put it back on and tried it and now it sounds like the bendix gear is touching the flywheel teeth then backing off. I hear a slight grinding/rubbing sound for a split second then it just whirs. So my question is, should the bendix gear be spinning full speed the whole time or should it speed up after it engages the flywheel? Mine starts spinning very fast before it flings out. Could this be the reason it's not engaging the flywheel teeth? It seems to me that if it's spinning that fast that it wouldn't have a chance to engage the flywheel and would just grind against the teeth then pull back. Any thoughts? Matt Peterson ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 12:12:35 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'oliver'" , Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:58:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA Try Route 250 from New Philly, Ohio through West Virginia and down to Staunton, Virginia. Just make sure your brakes are in good working order. There is a State Trooper that hangs out around Lake Tappan in Ohio that just loves to stop red roadsters (Ask Teddy Seidenfeld!). And the Blue Plate dinner, just south of Hundreds, WV, serves great hot cakes and a good cup of coffee. A great ride over the mountains! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- D Riedel wrote: So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip roads in North America? My particular interest would be the Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere. -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 12:37:41 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: matthew peterson Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:11:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter Problem Continued > ...my question is, should the bendix gear be spinning full speed the > whole time or should it speed up after it engages the flywheel?... > > Any thoughts? Yeah - something's broken :-) The solenoid has two purposes: To engage the bendix, and to turn on the starter. It's an electromagnetic plunger - it's a coil of wire and when you apply power to it, it pulls in a metal rod that's attached via a fork (like your clutch fork, kinda) that pushes the bendix gear out and into engagement with the flywheel. As the rod bottoms out, it presses a graphite disk against two hefty contacts and applies power to the starter windings. So if everything is OK, the starter shouldn't spin until the gear extends into the nose. I'm thinking there's something broken with the fork, or maybe the pivot pin that retains the fork is bent or broken. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 12:52:31 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:15:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA and if you're that close, better darn come over and visit me- I'm only 60 miles from Staunton open invitation :-) Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 13:16:51 2008 From: "D Riedel" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:54:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA Good stuff, Paul. Since I started the thread, I'll add a trip... Vancouver to 100 Mile House, BC: >From Mission, take Lougheed Hwy 7 along the north side of the Fraser River to Hope. Proceed north through the Fraser Canyon to Cache Creek. Then continue north on Hwy 97 to 100 Mile House. In a single day's drive (~450km), you pass from farmland valley into a steep mountainous canyon, into semi-arid desert, and finally on to ranch-land plateau. The change in scenery and vegetation is remarkable, plus you get the twists and turns of the canyon road. I put the route through to 100 Mile because it gives you an interesting option on return: the Hwy 24 cutoff over the mountain between Lone Butte and Little Fort which gets you to Yellowhead Hwy 5. From there, it's a scenic drive along the North Thompson south into Kamloops where you have a few choices on how to get back to Vancouver. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > Try Route 250 from New Philly, Ohio through West Virginia and down to > Staunton, Virginia. Just make sure your brakes are in good working order. > There is a State Trooper that hangs out around Lake Tappan in Ohio that just > loves to stop red roadsters (Ask Teddy Seidenfeld!). And the Blue Plate > dinner, just south of Hundreds, WV, serves great hot cakes and a good cup of > coffee. A great ride over the mountains! > > Paul > Ohio > > > > -----Original Message----- > > D Riedel wrote: > So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways > like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip > roads in North America? My particular interest would be the > Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere. > > -- > Dave Riedel > '69 2000 > Victoria, BC > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as stamuki@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 13:17:39 2008 From: Teddy To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, oliver Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:55:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA Dear Oliver, About that scenic stretch of 55 mph Ohio Rt 250 by Tappan Lake, to which Paul righlty alerts you, it's not exactly that there is a particular State Trooper with interests in Roadsters there, rather that seems to be the radar training spot for Ohio's best. Many times when I go through (driving between our race-team's garage in Canton OH and Pittsburgh, where I live) I get stopped by yet another rookie trooper who issues me a "warning" and, by the way, wants to see what's under the hood! Best, Teddy 69 2000 -- my daily in Pittsburgh Sloan-Alexander Datsun racing (crew and occasional driver) -- Canton > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:58:46 -0400 > From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> > Subject: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA > To: "'oliver'" , > > Message-ID: <001a01c8f400$428a33f0$c79e9bd0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Try Route 250 from New Philly, Ohio through West Virginia and down to > Staunton, Virginia. Just make sure your brakes are in good working order. > There is a State Trooper that hangs out around Lake Tappan in Ohio that just > loves to stop red roadsters (Ask Teddy Seidenfeld!). And the Blue Plate > dinner, just south of Hundreds, WV, serves great hot cakes and a good cup of > coffee. A great ride over the mountains! > > Paul > Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 14:01:54 2008 From: 12061997@comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (datsun list Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:34:22 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs Hi list, I am looking for a couple of jack hole plugs for my 67-1600....Anyone have any for sale? Speaking of great road trips. I took my honeymoon in a 67-1600 in June of 1968 from Missouri to Virginia.....Not a bad trip!...bob ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 14:47:45 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "D Riedel" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:24:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA why not just do an Al-Can highway trip and ferry back down from Ak? was dirt road the last time I did that trip. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 14:48:30 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:28:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadtrips again we did our honeymoon in 1991 in a roadster, 3400 miles round trip from Virginia up to Bar Harbor and Acadia in Maine, drove up Cadillac mountain. great trip, only breakdown was one of the carb return springs broke and it revved up... stole one from a ball point pen and stretched it to get to my next stop. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 14:49:11 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: sumton@sbcglobal.net Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:29:01 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips The back side entrance to Mt St Helens, specifically the southern road up from Cougar... truly awesome, twisty turny smooth road. Then you get to turn off to the road that leads to St Helens... the view will blow your mind (and that road is fun to drive fast too if clear). The northern part of the road is nice but bouncy... literally caught air on one unexpected bump. Had to get out and check the car! I would drive south on I5 past the mountain, then turn east on the road that leads to Cougar and go back north. When the paint is done on the Blaster, that is one trip I plan to do if summer is still here. If anyone wants to tag along, I will post it! The access road to the western side of St Helens is not nearly as good btw. Although I did learn some interesting facts at the ranger station there. For example, if you had been standing at that station when St Helens blew up, holding a hoop that was 1 meter in diameter, 2000lbs of material would have been flying through that hoop every second... ya, your car, through the hoop, every second. Greg Burrows 67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA -- oliver wrote: Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap and Cherohala Skyway, Graham Co, NC incredible road - was there about two years ago; am going back in september D Riedel wrote: So these cross-country discussions, with references to old highways like US 50, got me wondering. What are some of the great road trip roads in North America? My particular interest would be the Northwest, but I'd like to hear about anywhere. -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Live your dreams. Click here to find information on becoming a lawyer. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4vAe6EvxhpkrNKs0wMn1w6SD yXJZWNlVfatAxZCscPPGdF6O/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 15:22:16 2008 From: "D Riedel" To: chalsted Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:52:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA The Top of the World highway through Fairbanks is supposedly spectacular. I don't know about the condition of the road for a roadster, though. Did you pass through that way Craig, or did you take the more southerly route to Anchorage? On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:24 PM, chalsted wrote: > why not just do an Al-Can highway trip and ferry back down from Ak? was > dirt road the last time I did that trip. > Craig > Datsun Roadsters mostly... > http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 > > -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 16:35:34 2008 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs anyone found a good substitute? "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997@comcast.net> wrote: Hi list, I am looking for a couple of jack hole plugs for my 67-1600....Anyone have any for sale? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 17:06:34 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:39:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw:] Great road trips, OH to VA > we went up through Fairbanks on our way back down from Alaska- then all > the way down the coast to southern Ca and dropped my travel companions off > in Tucson on the way back to upstate NY quit smoking cigarettes up at > Wonder Lake in Mt. McKinley Park- awe inspiring! parking meters in > Fairbanks had electrical outlets in them for plugging in the block heaters > in the winter up there. stop at Liard Springs if you go out the Al-Can, > somewhere around mile marker 310 I think. go about 1/4 mile out past the > main hot pool and there's a more secluded, private one. you might end up > sharing it with a moose and they're BIG up there, or a few mosquitoes > which are about the size of Mayflies and they kid about them carrying you > off.. lived in Alaska one summer, one of my grand adventures :-) > Craig > Datsun Roadsters mostly... > http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 18:07:20 2008 From: jrdmf@aol.com To: sumton@sbcglobal.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:49:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs Sure have..... Weld up holes and paint to match car. :-) Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 3:13 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs anyone found a good substitute? "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997@comcast.net> wrote: Hi list, I am looking for a couple of jack hole plugs for my 67-1600....Anyone have any for sale? You are subscribed as jrdmf@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 18:39:00 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:14:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs Bob, Steve had a set for sale on 311s.org. Dunno if they're still available. I was thinking of piping the floorboards to 'em and use 'em as a cockpit drain. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:34 PM To: datsun listdatsun; Little Bobby; datsun list datsun Subject: [Roadsters] jack hole plugs Hi list, I am looking for a couple of jack hole plugs for my 67-1600....Anyone have any for sale? Speaking of great road trips. I took my honeymoon in a 67-1600 in June of 1968 from Missouri to Virginia.....Not a bad trip!...bob ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 21:41:57 2008 From: "robert k. smith" To: Ken & Tammy Williams , Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:17:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking... ken, i think the r 16 and u20 eng. both are very strong engs. i remember in the 1970s i lived in florida. a friend had just tuned his jag xke and we went to the bee line hiway(15-20 miles of straight road), to test the jag. i followed in my 69 2000. the datsun was minus 5th gear, and i had a 250lb. friend riding along. the jag disappeared ahead and all i could do was keep the datsun floored in 4th gear. the datsun topped out at 6000 rpm at an indicated 115mph. i ran flat out for about 10 miles before i came upon the jag stopped on the side of the road smoking. after that run, i was fairly impressed with ruggedness of the u-20 eng. bob smith 69 srl 311 70 chev. elcamino 2007 toy. yaris(dont laugh,40 m.p.g)> From: wilhouse@charter.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:41:19 -0500> Subject: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking...> > Hey guys and gals. The current discussion about driving across the country in> a roadster brought up a question. Maybe showing my ignorance, but here goes.> I have always been hesitant to drive my '67 1600 for too long on the> interstate. I've done it, but at 70-ish it is turning 3500 rpm or so. Is> that okay??? I'm a little bit of a wimp maybe?? Definitely too little of a> mechanic to know for sure.> Thanks,> Ken> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_fami ly_safety_072008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 07:22:08 2008 From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:01:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The cross country discussion has me thinking... Thanks to everybody for the replies. While we'll probably spend most of our time on the twisty back roads at less than 90mph, I'll feel much less nervous about the time I need to speed her up a little. Actually, it's a very nice weekend....Gotta go!! Ken ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 09:05:22 2008 From: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports To: Datsun list Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:49:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs I have a customer in MA on the east coast needing brake springs for his rear shoes. can anyone help? used is fine. his are rusted and need replacing. the summer is slipping away and he wants to drive his roadster. Ross sports imports ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 09:21:00 2008 From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:21:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops? Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket, rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father, and drive the Datsun back to California. Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there. Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large. Nathaniel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 09:55:06 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:56:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? The no-brand rollbar (do any of them actually have a brand?) that came on my '66 roadster will -NOT- allow the softtop to collapse. I would collapse it as far as it would go, then remove the entire frame/top and stuff it on the back shelf. I finally took the rollbar off. Haven't decided whether to have it modified, get a new one, or just sell it to someone who only drives on sunny (but not desert hot) days. ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 1971 1.7L Porsche 914 plus 2 cars, a truck & a motorcycle -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:21 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops? Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket, rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father, and drive the Datsun back to California. Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there. Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large. Nathaniel Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 13:39:52 2008 From: "MH" To: "Datsun list" Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:38:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake springs It should be easy to come up with a replacement for a common part like that. I'll bet some knowledgeable person in roadster land could tell us what suitable vehicle application / aftermarket source is available. Others may also benefit if this highly elusive part could be found. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" To: "Datsun list" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs > I have a customer in MA on the east coast needing brake springs for > his rear shoes. can anyone help? used is fine. his are rusted and > need replacing. the summer is slipping away and he wants to drive his > roadster. > > Ross > sports imports ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 14:37:50 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: nmleeds@mindspring.com Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:36:26 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? The rollbar on my '67 2000 allows the top to retract, even with a thick foam and vinyl cover on it. However, it does not allow the top to be stored as normal. What I would do is measure the height of the roll bar, noting also how wide it is at the top and report that to us. I can measure the height and width of mine if you like... it certainly would work on a tall windshield car if it works on my shortie... Greg Burrows -- "Nathaniel Leeds" wrote: Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops? Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket, rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father, and drive the Datsun back to California. Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there. Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large. Nathaniel ____________________________________________________________ Click here for great computer networking solutions! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4vC4gobGpwfdir58R6WnvEAj z62iROObd670mrelh3oW7Dj4/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 14:47:26 2008 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:47:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? I have a late 1970s Autopower roll bar (then SCCA approved track version) on my '68 2000 which works fine with the top up, folds down without drama, but the rear stays confound a complete downward folding and stowing flush with the rear shelf. If you can live with that, it can be done. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex gregs672liter@netzero.net wrote: >The rollbar on my '67 2000 allows the top to retract, even with a thick foam >and vinyl cover on it. However, it does not allow the top to be stored as >normal. What I would do is measure the height of the roll bar, noting also >how wide it is at the top and report that to us. I can measure the height and >width of mine if you like... it certainly would work on a tall windshield car >if it works on my shortie... >Greg Burrows > >-- "Nathaniel Leeds" wrote: >Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops? > >Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with >spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket, >rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm >about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father, >and drive the Datsun back to California. > >Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar >for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this >rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one >way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California >to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there. > >Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in >hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large. > >Nathaniel ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 15:06:59 2008 From: "Brad and Gayle Holmes" To: "Mark Sedlack" , , Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:06:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side mirrors Mark Do you think the convex mirror that you used on the "R" would be useful to the driver if it was mounted on the passenger door in the same location as the traditional mirror is mounted on the door? Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sedlack" To: ; Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side mirrors > Greg, > One possibility: > I used a pair of Raydyot "look-alike" spun aluminum mirrors - driver's is > flat, passenger side is convex. > These aftermarket mirrors were used on lots of sports cars in the '60s, > most > notably the AC Cobra. > > They work reasonably, since they get bolted solid and don't move around - > a > helper moves the mirror around for you (sitting in the driver's seat) > until > you're happy with the angles, then snugs down the bolt/stud underneath, > locking the mirror in position. > > You can see what they look like on the "R" here, > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > and here is where I bought mine IIRC > http://tinyurl.com/5m65c8 > > Mark Sedlack > ZROC > Cuyahoga Falls OH > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:26 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Side mirrors > > >> OK gang, I am happy to say that I think all major body work is FINALLY >> done on >> the '67, and I may just get it in primer by Monday (yeah!). I am looking >> for >> new side mirrors and asking for suggestions. I used to have "baby turbo" >> mirrors on it, which I liked but they did not work particularly well and >> tended to giggle a lot. I'm looking for some alternatives that people >> have >> liked (reasonably priced). Mirrors will be on both sides. My car as >> most >> of >> you know is not stock, so I am open to just about anything that looks >> good >> and >> actually works. >> Thanks! >> Greg Burrows >> 67 2000 >> Bonney Lake, WA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bradandgayle@charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 15:54:41 2008 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'datsun list datsun'" Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:54:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need distributor oil hose. 67 early 1600. Beyond stock, does anyone have a steel braided solution like Russell's, Aeroquip or Earl's? Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 16:34:09 2008 From: "Andrew Conner" To: "MH" , "Datsun list" Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:32:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake springs ***DISCLAIMER: Using anything other than the appropriate OEM parts on your brakes can be dangerous, as brakes are very important to the safe operation of your roadster. The following information is for informational purposes only; anyone who puts it into practice does so at their own risk. *** A few years ago I was lucky enough to buy a full rear drum rebuild kit from Carl Jaeger, but his website (http://www.new-datsun-parts.com/datsun-roadster-fairlady-brakes.html) currently lists this as sold out. The springs I got from Carl will work but they are differ a little in size from the original ones that came on my car when I got it. Here is a picture, where the green ones are new. http://www.mydatsunroadster.com/misc/old_new_drum_springs.jpg The original roadster return springs for the cylinder side part # is 44090-16505, but when I tried to order them from Nissan a few years back they didn't have them. That may have changed by now. A couple of years ago I ordered from Nissan a pair of cylinder side return springs for a 510 to see if they might match, and while they are just a hair longer than the green ones, I bet they would work on the roadster. (The 510 return springs are red and black). http://www.mydatsunroadster.com/misc/old_new_510_springs.jpg So I believe the 510 parts are still available from Nissan, the part # is 44091-21010 and they are listed for about $2 apiece. I didn't get far enough to try to match the adjustor-side return spring to a 510 part, but that could be out there as well (an area for further research...). The original roadster part # for the adjustor-side return spring is 44071-30001--also weren't available a few years back, but that may have changed. Andy Conner SRL 311-01633 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+conner_a=comcast.net@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of MH Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:38 PM To: Datsun list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake springs It should be easy to come up with a replacement for a common part like that. I'll bet some knowledgeable person in roadster land could tell us what suitable vehicle application / aftermarket source is available. Others may also benefit if this highly elusive part could be found. Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" To: "Datsun list" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs > I have a customer in MA on the east coast needing brake springs for > his rear shoes. can anyone help? used is fine. his are rusted and > need replacing. the summer is slipping away and he wants to drive his > roadster. > > Ross > sports imports Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 18:52:02 2008 From: jim williams To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle? 1970 roadster is slow to return to idle when shifting. If you are shifting under 2000 rpms no problem. Over 2000 rpms it seems to hang up several seconds before it will idle down. All smog equipment is on the car. Thanks. Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 18:59:58 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: Walter.Peterson@cox.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:00:02 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need distributor oil hose. 67 early 1600. Every once and a while I will get some of the distributor hoses and oil pressure gauge hoses rebuilt. They take the fittings off and put new modern braided hose between them. I currently have two distributor hoses for cores and one oil gauge hose. I would like to find another used, leaking, with good fittings oil gauge hose. Having several done makes the price a little better. In the past I have sold these on an exchange basis at my cost. The price ends up being about half what a new hose costs and should last for the life of the car. There should be a few out there that I've done. If anyone here has used one of mine and has any feedback please feel free to share. keith "mostly carbs" williams In a message dated 8/2/2008 2:55:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Walter.Peterson@cox.net writes: Beyond stock, does anyone have a steel braided solution like Russell's, Aeroquip or Earl's? Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 19:05:15 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:05:12 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Need distributor oil hose. 67 early 1600. Walter, You can get a steel braided teflon line made up at a hose supply place similar to this: http://www.ormebrothers.com/ You can bring or send the hose with fittings (essential as they may not have the fittings) and they can make it up. If you go in they can do it while you wait. Linda 68 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Walter Peterson To: 'datsun list datsun' Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 2:54 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Need distributor oil hose. 67 early 1600. Beyond stock, does anyone have a steel braided solution like Russell's, Aeroquip or Earl's? Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 ________________________________________ It's time to go back to school! Get the latest trends and gadgets that make the grade on AOL Shopping. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 19:06:39 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: sportsix63@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:06:45 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle? 1600 or 2000? The 1600 had some 70 only smog stuff. One of the things they did was to hold the throttle open a bit under high manifold vacuum conditions. This was to prevent back firing. The small vacuum hose on the manifold should go to the vacuum motor for it. This may be out of adjustment. For a test pull the hose and cap the barb on the manifold. Another possibility is that the vacuum advance on the distributor is hooked to the manifold vacuum rather than the vacuum port on the carb. keith In a message dated 8/2/2008 5:53:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sportsix63@yahoo.com writes: 1970 roadster is slow to return to idle when shifting. If you are shifting under 2000 rpms no problem. Over 2000 rpms it seems to hang up several seconds before it will idle down. All smog equipment is on the car. Thanks. Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 21:47:06 2008 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: nmleeds@mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:47:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Nathaniel, Look me up if you are coming to the Denver Area.? Wycroc would love to schedule an outing with you. John Over Aurora, CO 68 2000 67 2000 71 240z 720-810-4154 -----Original Message----- From: Nathaniel Leeds To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 9:21 am Subject: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops? Here's the problem I have: I am in California, with my garage stuffed with spare Datsun stuff, including what looks to me to be a thick, aftermarket, rollbar; my sweet-baby '69 2000 is in my family garage in Colorado. I'm about to drive the family sedan to Colorado, return it to my step-father, and drive the Datsun back to California. Obviously, I'd like to have a roof for the hot desert traverse and a rollbar for the twisty mountain roads. Can I have it all? I don't know whether this rollbar fits beneath the convertible top -- anyone have any experience one way or another. I don't want to take the rollbar all the way from California to Colorado and then be forced to leave it there. Since I don't really know the origin of this rollbar I'd be interested in hearing about whether some aftermarket bars are just too large. Nathaniel You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 00:25:25 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:25:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle? see if one of your throttle shaft return springs has broken and replace as necessary. if it was a symptom that came on suddenly. let's see, that would be the yellow 41k mile 1600 from over near me. he didn't drive it much and the throttle shaft bushings could use a bit of WD40 most likely. first check the return springs though. Craig Halsted Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim williams" To: Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle? > 1970 roadster is slow to return to idle when shifting. > If you are shifting under 2000 rpms no problem. Over 2000 rpms it seems to > hang up several seconds before it will idle down. > All smog equipment is on the car. > Thanks. > Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 00:35:01 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:35:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle? Hi Keith, his car is a '70 1600, he bought it from someone local to me. I have photos of it in my computer. 41k original miles, not driven much the past 11 years. they used to run it in the local Apple Blossom Parade, after Steve's wife passed it became painful for him to see it around and he didn't drive it anymore. car also needs new springs, they were pretty soft. brakes weren't 100% new owner has other cars and figured he'd buy it as an investment, called me about parts after looking around and was not happy at what used parts are going for. great car to have and spruce up to drive, but not as an investment with intention of turning for a profit. he gave all the money for it at time of purchase Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 06:01:56 2008 From: Mike Harper To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" , Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 05:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? This may be the best 1600 engine out there IMHO. If still original you should have a cast iron head (3 bolts in the thermostat tower), and it is pretty bullet-proof as far as warping due to heat etc. The downside is that it is a 3 main bearing engine rather that 5 (engine # 40,000 was the change-over I think). The 5-main bearing engine can be stroked with a 2000 crank & pistons, but not the 3. The 5 does apparently have an oil delivery issue to one of the bearings though, so I'd say you have the best of both worlds. Enjoy the ride! Mike SC '66 1600 (Also an early R Engine) --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Charles Kyle wrote: > From: Charles Kyle > Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car? > To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" > Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 8:52 PM > Hello all, > > So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68. > Based on the > serial number (SPL311-18896) and descriptions that I have > read online, I > defiantly think the body is a 68, high windshield. Now the > engine might be > something different. How can I tell? The engine block > number is R05076 and > the oil filter is the old canister type not the screw on, > so is this a 66? > > Any thoughts? > > Chuck > > > -- > > Chuck > > Mobile: 512-225-4501 > Web site: www.chuckkyle.com > > > Leavenworth Address: > > Chuck Kyle > 514B Pawnee St > Leavenworth KS 66048 > > DC Address: > > Chuck Kyle > 7441 Collins Meade Way > Alexandria, VA 22315 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 06:06:51 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 05:07:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] GM Alternator Swap Thanks to all for the information on installing a new GM alternator. Tim came over to Milwaukee with his 1600 so I had a sample car to look at and do the swap. I can truly say that yesterday was the first time I've seen my amp gauge go to the right of center. Yippy! After I started the car for the first time I backed it out of the garage and Tim yelled that I should shut off the motor asap. I got out of the car and saw a 2.0" wide path of fuel on the driveway. On closer inspection I felt a large amount of fuel under the bottom of the fuel pump. The in and out fuel lines are secure and not leaking. Is it possible that the fuel pump housing is cracked? In case the problem is a failed gasket, is there a rebuild kit for the fuel pump? Tim stated that I have to remove the right side motor mount to get the fuel pump out from the block, true or false? Does the 2000 engine use the same fuel pump? Thanks P.S. On our road trip last weekend I smelled fuel in the engine compartment and now I know why. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 06:23:36 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , , Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:23:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? -----Original Message----- The 5 does apparently have an oil delivery issue to one of the bearings though, so I'd say you have the best of both worlds. Enjoy the ride! Mike SC ---------------------- The 5 main does have poor oil flow to #3 rod bearing. We've toasted a few in the race roadsters. But then we started cross drilling the crank shaft to improve the oil flow to ALL the rod bearings. Not a problem anymore. Paul Sloan Racing Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 08:02:28 2008 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:00:16 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: passenger door, fender sheet metal I may need a passenger door and fender for a low windshield car. My last trip to a body shop many years ago resulted in very poor results. Too inexperienced at the time to notice. Now, I'm looking to have it re-done. The body shop may be able to work with what I have. No rust, just bent metal. However, a replacement would obviously be better. I live in Arizona so, West Coast source would be better. TIA, Dan McHatton '66 1600 ____________________________________________________________ Get a life insurance quote online. Click to compare rates and save. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iig79yBySQq0oNwAluxCxZeOeY3I yQvZEofXaFCOl4xKXWoAm/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 08:16:14 2008 From: Jerry Krakauer To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com, Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:16:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? If I recall correctly, BSR always used the 3 main block because it produced less friction a therefore a bit more power. Since the crank was short enough and stiff enough, there was really no extra whip with only 3 bearings. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: ; ; "'Charles Kyle'" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? > -----Original Message----- > The 5 does apparently have an oil delivery issue to one of the bearings > though, so I'd say you have the best of both worlds. Enjoy the ride! > > Mike SC > ---------------------- > > The 5 main does have poor oil flow to #3 rod bearing. We've toasted a > few > in the race roadsters. But then we started cross drilling the crank shaft > to improve the oil flow to ALL the rod bearings. Not a problem anymore. > > Paul > Sloan Racing > Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 09:41:05 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Jerry Krakauer'" , Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:41:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? Most of the old time racers did use the 3 main blocks. But here in Ohio, there just aren't many flat dash roadsters willing to sacrifice their engines. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Krakauer [mailto:jsk977@optonline.net] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:16 AM To: Paul; roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; 'Charles Kyle' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? If I recall correctly, BSR always used the 3 main block because it produced less friction a therefore a bit more power. Since the crank was short enough and stiff enough, there was really no extra whip with only 3 bearings. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: ; ; "'Charles Kyle'" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? > -----Original Message----- > The 5 does apparently have an oil delivery issue to one of the bearings > though, so I'd say you have the best of both worlds. Enjoy the ride! > > Mike SC > ---------------------- > > The 5 main does have poor oil flow to #3 rod bearing. We've toasted a > few > in the race roadsters. But then we started cross drilling the crank shaft > to improve the oil flow to ALL the rod bearings. Not a problem anymore. > > Paul > Sloan Racing > Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 10:25:00 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] distributor I'd like to thank everyone for sharing their advice and wisdom. THANKS!!!, everyone!! Patti ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 10:42:42 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: , , Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:43:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? Actually, If you can find one, an H19 crank has the 83 mm stroke with 3 mains, so you can stroke a 3 main to 2L as well. The hard part is finding the crank. You can also stroke it to 1800cc with a G15 crank, but you would need custom rods or pistons. By far the easiest tho (parts availability and cost), is to stroke the later 5 main engines, which of course, you can bolt the cast iron head onto! Cheers Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Harper" To: ; "Charles Kyle" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What year is my car? > This may be the best 1600 engine out there IMHO. If still original you > should have a cast iron head (3 bolts in the thermostat tower), and it is > pretty bullet-proof as far as warping due to heat etc. The downside is > that it is a 3 main bearing engine rather that 5 (engine # 40,000 was the > change-over I think). The 5-main bearing engine can be stroked with a > 2000 crank & pistons, but not the 3. The 5 does apparently have an oil > delivery issue to one of the bearings though, so I'd say you have the best > of both worlds. Enjoy the ride! > > Mike SC > '66 1600 (Also an early R Engine) > > > --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Charles Kyle wrote: > >> From: Charles Kyle >> Subject: [Roadsters] What year is my car? >> To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" >> Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 8:52 PM >> Hello all, >> >> So I think my Datsun is somewhere between a 66 and a 68. >> Based on the >> serial number (SPL311-18896) and descriptions that I have >> read online, I >> defiantly think the body is a 68, high windshield. Now the >> engine might be >> something different. How can I tell? The engine block >> number is R05076 and >> the oil filter is the old canister type not the screw on, >> so is this a 66? >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Chuck >> >> >> -- >> >> Chuck >> >> Mobile: 512-225-4501 >> Web site: www.chuckkyle.com >> >> >> Leavenworth Address: >> >> Chuck Kyle >> 514B Pawnee St >> Leavenworth KS 66048 >> >> DC Address: >> >> Chuck Kyle >> 7441 Collins Meade Way >> Alexandria, VA 22315 >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as drlsmith@dccnet.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 18:48:03 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:48:16 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] FS: 1964 1500 3-seater Don't know the seller or the car. From the Austin, TX craigslist: ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 18:55:15 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: chalsted@comcast.net, sportsix63@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:56:26 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle? Argh, clean with carb cleaner spray then lube with silicone spray. No WD-40, it gets gummy after a while. keith In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:25:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chalsted@comcast.net writes: he didn't drive it much and the throttle shaft bushings could use a bit of WD40 most likely. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 19:33:57 2008 From: peter harrison To: Datsun list Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:33:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake springs ACE Hardware has a wonderful selection of springs - I am sure that one would work - just a thought Peter > From: twobeaners@earthlink.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:38:12 -0500> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake springs> > It should be easy to come up with a replacement for a common part like that.> I'll bet some knowledgeable person in roadster land could tell us what> suitable vehicle application / aftermarket source is available. Others may> also benefit if this highly elusive part could be found.> Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-speed> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" > To: "Datsun list" > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:49 AM> Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs> > > > I have a customer in MA on the east coast needing brake springs for> > his rear shoes. can anyone help? used is fine. his are rusted and> > need replacing. the summer is slipping away and he wants to drive his> > roadster.> >> > Ross> > sports imports> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 08:01:35 2008 From: VulForge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:01:36 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump: was GM alternator Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1048 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) Return-path: From: VulForge@aol.com Full-name: VulForge Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:59:29 EDT Subject: Fuel pump: was GM alternator To: datsun-roadsters-request@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain There are rebuild kits for the fuel pump. I think I got mine from Stan Chernoff, CDM or other vendors should have them. As I recall the pump will come off without removing anything major, but it is really tight quarters. If it is the pump diaphragm I don't think you have to remove the unit from the block, just unscrew the top. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1048 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 08:54:15 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: Keith0alan@aol.com, chalsted@comcast.net, sportsix63@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 07:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle? I'm glad that someone else out there is not a WD-40 devotee! It is not the miracle juice that so many people seem to believe that it is... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Keith0alan@aol.com wrote: Argh, clean with carb cleaner spray then lube with silicone spray. No WD-40, it gets gummy after a while. keith In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:25:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chalsted@comcast.net writes: he didn't drive it much and the throttle shaft bushings could use a bit of WD40 most likely. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 10:05:00 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: "Nathaniel Leeds" Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:04:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? > Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops? I believe it gets a bit more complicated: "Which soft top frames fit around the rollbar?" At least on the high screen cars, it appears that some of the frames are a nudge wider than others, thus while one specific frame will clear a specific rollbar, another different frame may not. So if you find a rollbar that "this one fits under my top", it may not necessarily fit under YOUR top... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 10:46:17 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Gary McCormick" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:46:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle? yeah, but I hear it's great for arthritis- they have a hard time keeping it on the shelf in retirement communities :-) Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 11:12:07 2008 From: leehinger@verizon.net To: John F Sandhoff Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:10:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Years ago I had a Datsun provided high windshield roll bar in one of my cars. I went to put the top up - oh no the outsides of the frame would not clear the bar. I took a good size crescent wrench & snugged it over the top frame arm tabs and gently bent them out a couple of degrees until they cleared. Worked great for years... Lee Ehinger On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:04 PM, John F Sandhoff wrote: >> Can someone tell me which rollbars fit underneath which ragtops? I believe it gets a bit more complicated: "Which soft top frames fit around the rollbar?" At least on the high screen cars, it appears that some of the frames are a nudge wider than others, thus while one specific frame will clear a specific rollbar, another different frame may not. So if you find a rollbar that "this one fits under my top", it may not necessarily fit under YOUR top... -- John B B B B John F SandhoffB B sandhoff@csus.edu B B B Sacramento, CA You are subscribed as leehinger@verizon.net B Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive B http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters B ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 12:52:34 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: leehinger@verizon.net Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:52:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Lee reports: > ...the frame would not clear the bar. I took a good size crescent > wrench & snugged it over the top frame arm tabs and gently bent them > out a couple of degrees until they cleared. Lee has provided a definite 'Aha!' moment. I doubt now that there's different frames - some are just more bent out of shape than others! Thanks, Lee! I'll try your cure on my 1600 :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 14:13:06 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: gkmcc@sbcglobal.net, chalsted@comcast.net, sportsix63@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:12:19 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Slow to return to idle? WD-40 is great for what it is intended to do. Displace moisture and provide a protective coating. It just doesn't make a good lube for carb chokes. keith In a message dated 8/4/2008 7:55:02 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gkmcc@sbcglobal.net writes: I'm glad that someone else out there is not a WD-40 devotee! It is not the miracle juice that so many people seem to believe that it is... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Keith0alan@aol.com wrote: Argh, clean with carb cleaner spray then lube with silicone spray. No WD-40, it gets gummy after a while. keith **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 15:36:04 2008 From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'Ross Mullen / Sports Imports'" , "'Datsun Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:33:57 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake springs Brake springs is one of those items I'd love to see the vendors find a way to supply. Wink, wink. The ones on these cars can't last forever. Seems like it would be a pretty good item to go with new brake pads. Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ross Mullen / Sports Imports Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:49 AM To: Datsun list Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake springs I have a customer in MA on the east coast needing brake springs for his rear shoes. can anyone help? used is fine. his are rusted and need replacing. the summer is slipping away and he wants to drive his roadster. Ross sports imports ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 15:49:56 2008 From: Herb Petty To: "Datsun List." Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Re. Hi All, I guess quite a few places made roll-bars ( In the Day ) I've been running a roll-bar that was salvaged from a 1969-1600 ( after-market ) for about 20 yrs. It fits just fine, & it has a serial number. on one of the feet. I was told, that if it had a serial number, that it was certified, for s.c.c.a. use. Mind you, ( I was told )?? Anyway, it works just fine in my 1966 s.p,l. the top has no problems. Of course, I should add, I hardly ever put it up. Also, I think the factory / Nismo roll-bar started in 1967.5. I've seen a couple when I was in Japan. Have a great ride, Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 16:15:49 2008 From: Embarq Customer To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share it again anyway. The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. For a roadster that means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or passenger. It is only for vanity at that point. My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 17:08:53 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:09:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Wait a minute! Some of us gotta call it the new seat belt bar. :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Embarq Customer" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? > You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share > it again anyway. The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line > is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the > ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. For a roadster that > means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. > Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or > passenger. It is only for vanity at that point. My advice is to leave > the rollbar out and operate the top easily. > > Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 17:29:35 2008 From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: "Embarq Customer" , Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:29:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Car safety isn't science. I know that if I had a lab perfect roll-over the rollbar might not keep my head from getting a pretty good whack. But in real life all sorts of physically complicated things happen in car crashes. For my money, I bet that having a good solid piece of metal above is gonna give you more protection, more often than not -- and I'd dare anyone to get in enough different types of car crashes to prove it one way or another. Nathaniel -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com@autox.team.net]O n Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:16 PM To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share it again anyway. The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. For a roadster that means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or passenger. It is only for vanity at that point. My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily. Andy You are subscribed as nmleeds@mindspring.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 17:45:48 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "Embarq Customer" , "Autox \(E-mail\)" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:44:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? That's just in a rollover. And depending on the car's postion and direction of travel, could land on the rear corner of the vehicle while upside down and take the initial impact. In that situation, I'd rather have my head poking past the line of the bar to the hood than the line from the windshield to the trunk. Too many varibles to say it won't provide any protection. And I'd rather have some protection than none. I'm also looking for the bar to protect me from the guy who runs a red light and slams into the side of the door. Or the jacked up SUV that fails to stop and decides to play monster truck. Steve 70' 1600 ----- Original Message ----- > You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share > it again anyway. The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line > is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the > ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. For a roadster that > means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. > Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or > passenger. It is only for vanity at that point. My advice is to leave > the rollbar out and operate the top easily. > > Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 17:50:12 2008 From: "barterdude" To: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:50:26 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster Didn't have much success the last time playing with EBay trying to sell my 1970 2000 roadster. Wondering if any has had experience with AutoTrader.com or any other source to find a qualified buyer for cars in the range of 5 - 10 K in price? Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 17:54:51 2008 From: "Stan Rasmussen" To: "'Stephen Wan'" , "'Embarq Customer'" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:54:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Anyone seen a "Toadster" cover put on a Roadster? The type of hard cover that extends from the seat backs and covers the opening, usually painted to match the car. A custom double hump roll bar in chrome would also look stellar. I've contemplated getting out some fiberglass and trying to make one...anyone else. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Wan Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:44 PM To: Embarq Customer; Autox (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? That's just in a rollover. And depending on the car's postion and direction of travel, could land on the rear corner of the vehicle while upside down and take the initial impact. In that situation, I'd rather have my head poking past the line of the bar to the hood than the line from the windshield to the trunk. Too many varibles to say it won't provide any protection. And I'd rather have some protection than none. I'm also looking for the bar to protect me from the guy who runs a red light and slams into the side of the door. Or the jacked up SUV that fails to stop and decides to play monster truck. Steve 70' 1600 ----- Original Message ----- > You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll > share > it again anyway. The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line > is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the > ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. For a roadster that > means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. > Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or > passenger. It is only for vanity at that point. My advice is to leave > the rollbar out and operate the top easily. > > Andy You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 8:09 AM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 18:11:34 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:11:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Yeah, but what will Barbie hang on to? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Embarq Customer [snip] My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily. > > Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 18:37:11 2008 From: alvin gogineni To: Stephen Wan , Embarq Customer Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:37:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? I know my rollbar won't protect me in a rollover. In fact, with my helmet on I am 2" ABOVE the roll bar :) This is why I have limited my track time with the roadster and focused on my Z33. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2826207320089849889MSWJxB The rollbar is good for a few other reasons: 1) structural if you mount it to the frame 2) it allows safer mounting locations for shoulder harnesses http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2526541350089849889ZeurGE Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: steve@olsonarchitect.com> To: andycost@embarqmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:44:02 -0700> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all?> > That's just in a rollover. And depending on the car's postion and direction > of travel, could land on the rear corner of the vehicle while upside down > and take the initial impact. In that situation, I'd rather have my head > poking past the line of the bar to the hood than the line from the > windshield to the trunk. Too many varibles to say it won't provide any > protection. And I'd rather have some protection than none. I'm also > looking for the bar to protect me from the guy who runs a red light and > slams into the side of the door.> Or the jacked up SUV that fails to stop and decides to play monster truck.> > Steve> 70' 1600> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share > > it again anyway. The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line > > is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the > > ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. For a roadster that > > means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. > > Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or > > passenger. It is only for vanity at that point. My advice is to leave > > the rollbar out and operate the top easily.> >> > Andy> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as alvingogi@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are. Start here. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home_082008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 18:39:09 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: "'Pete Peters'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:39:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Don't forget Ken :) http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1093081650049961295Xtrque -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:12 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Yeah, but what will Barbie hang on to? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Embarq Customer [snip] My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily. > > Andy You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin@gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 18:44:41 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:44:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Hey! That ain't Greg's car. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Alvin Gogineni > Don't forget Ken :) > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1093081650049961295Xtrque > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Pete Peters > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:12 PM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? > > Yeah, but what will Barbie hang on to? > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Embarq Customer > > [snip] > > My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily. > > > > Andy > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin@gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 20:01:04 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:00:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster I've sold one at $25k and one at $12,500 both for list members this year. they were both very, very nice though. have also sold 4 of my own that I built. if you would like for me to try to do this for you, I will charge you a negotiated percentage of the sale price for providing this service, I have bills to pay too. anyone else might do it for free for you, that would be fine with me, I won't be insulted. but if you want me to look, I will need a signed contract with you that if I provide the buyer at any given price, upon receipt of funds you will pay me the agreed upon fee or I will handle the deal and keep my fee and give the rest to you. I have never asked for a contract before, however recent events have shown me that although it has been a constant in my life, not everybody will pay you what they promise you. on a recent such deal, I ended up receiving 1/4 yes 25% of what the seller had told me he would give me if I sold the car for him at the price I sold it for him at- and further told me if I so much as mentioned his name or complained or slandered him (don't believe it's slander if I tell the truth and I have all the e-mails) he would make sure I didn't get a penny. I was broke as crap, unfortunately had to forego my ethics (out him to the list) because I had the mortgage to pay and no other way to do it in time. took what little he offered me if I didn't tell anybody...and sucked up and kept quiet. at least Pat Mahoney is a straight up guy, wish I could have bought his for myself. so anyhow, next time I provide the service there will be a contract. if that doesn't work for you, no problem. some people think it takes a couple minutes of time to sell their car for them- not exactly that easy. I also do car locating for folks. pretty good at it too actually, can provide references or look at my own personal collection. I do better if I sell someone a car I've built myself and have a few on hand always that I could have running/driving within a couple days to a couple weeks if I was motivated to work on them. playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white haired retired guy ;-) mostly just hang out on the end of the mountain contemplating my navel and enjoying the view. not really into working particularly hard any more. working on figuring out how to pay for my daughter's education now....$6 and change in savings with compounded interest since 1986.. had to open the account with $5. woo-hoo! Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 20:25:03 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: "'Nathaniel Leeds'" , "'Embarq Customer'" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:25:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? I agree. I spent many hours trying to figure out a roll bar that would provide protection and still fit under the soft top. If it doesn't connect to the frame, forget it. Solve that problem then move on to head clearance. Two inches sound good. The only solution to that problem is recline the seat (given your current height) so you have the two inches. If you don't have a 5-point harness system all of the above is a mute point. Ask Dale E. He had the best equipment available and he's still dead. I built a roll bar that is connected to the frame, clears the soft and hard top, provides 2.0" of clearance for my 6.0' body, has a 6 point harness and has a brake light attached. I still drive the car as if it doesn't have a roll bar. Remember Murphy's law. Steve -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:29 PM To: Embarq Customer; Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Car safety isn't science. I know that if I had a lab perfect roll-over the rollbar might not keep my head from getting a pretty good whack. But in real life all sorts of physically complicated things happen in car crashes. For my money, I bet that having a good solid piece of metal above is gonna give you more protection, more often than not -- and I'd dare anyone to get in enough different types of car crashes to prove it one way or another. Nathaniel -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com@autox.team.net]O n Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:16 PM To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal but I'll share it again anyway. The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that when a line is drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it will hit the ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. For a roadster that means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit under a top. Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) to the driver or passenger. It is only for vanity at that point. My advice is to leave the rollbar out and operate the top easily. Andy You are subscribed as nmleeds@mindspring.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as stebharvey@ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 20:40:24 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: stebharvey@ameritech.net Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:39:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Would like to see your brake light set-up. Good idea for a little car, i think. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Steve Harvey To: 'Nathaniel Leeds' ; 'Embarq Customer' ; Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 7:25 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? I agree. I spent many hours trying to figure out a roll bar that would provide protection and still fit under the soft top. If it doesn't connect to the frame, forget it. Solve that problem then move on to head clearance. Two inches sound good. The only solution to that problem is recline the seat (given your current height) so you have the two inches. If you don't have a 5-point harness system all of the above is a mute point. Ask Dale E. He had the best equipment available and he's still dead. I built a roll bar that is connected to the frame, clears the soft and hard top, provides 2.0" of clearance for my 6.0' body, has a 6 point harness and has a brake light attached. I still drive the car as if it doesn't have a roll bar. Remember Murphy's law. Steve - ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 22:22:33 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: alvin gogineni Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:22:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? If by "structural" you mean that it will contribute to the stiffness of the chassis - it would have to be one hellacious rollbar (think Golden Gate Bridge tower - North or South, take your pick) - the Roadster has a pretty stout frame. Convertibles are heavier than their hardtop counterparts because a hardtop body is a more efficient (strength for weight) way of providing torsional stiffness than building stiffness into the low plane of a ladder frame. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA alvin gogineni wrote: > >The rollbar is good for a few other reasons: >1) structural if you mount it to the frame > ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 23:47:02 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:45:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? So Rollbars They look cute and intentional. Going along with the angle thingie, the front end will crush dramatically making the angle below the hood/bonnet and aligning on the engine. Which even at 5.7 in driver hieght means death unless perhaps you have a 5 point harness. For myself, I drive fast,agressively, but i am always aware of whom is behind me, whom is alongside of me and i strictly obey the 3 second rule, if not expanded to 4 seconds. Accidents mostly happen because the 'accentdee' presumes that the accidenter knows what they are doing. Given that they don't, we stay the f&*(K out of their way and rollovers are minimal Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 00:30:14 2008 From: Fred Katz To: peter harrison Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:30:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Soon after a friend of mine bought a huge 4WD truck, he was telling me people were honking their horns at him as he changed lanes, and he would swerve back in the nick of time to avoid clobbering the other car. I told him he needs to be aware of what's in the next lane. He told me it's not his fault he can't see little cars below his right door window! OMG! He expected others to get out of his way when he changed lanes. I told him he's going to die of road rage someday unless he learned how to be aware of what's around him, or if he would get rid of the truck. When I drive, I also try to have an escape route around my car, and not to be boxed in with no escape from a bad driver next to me. Fred - So.SF On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:45 PM, peter harrison wrote: > Accidents mostly happen because the 'accentdee' > presumes that the accidenter knows what they are doing. Given that > they > don't, we stay the f&*(K out of their way and rollovers are minimal ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 07:10:20 2008 From: racery@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:10:17 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar > If you don't have a >5-point harness system all of the above is a mute point. Ask Dale E. He had >the best equipment available and he's still dead. Did he? Don't remember him wearing any type of HANS, and he was notorious for not tightening his harness.... He also went from 150 to 0 mph in 3 feet... The press loves to show a F1 car careening down the track, losing pieces as it goes, but the real danger is the sudden stop, not the slow, messy one. I'd almost go so far as to say that any bar is better than no bar, whether it's got clearace or not, except that you REALLY want to make sure that your melon can't contact the bar, no matter what. In a race car, you have a helmet, so it's not as big a deal, but a frontal impact is a LOT more likely than a rollover in a street car, so you just DO NOT want to hit your head on that bar... That's my take, anyhow... Toby ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 07:29:50 2008 From: "Pat Mahoney" To: barterdude@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:30:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster Last year I had the opportunity to use Craig Halsted to facilitate to sale of my '69 2000. He had posted on this list that he had a buyer interested in a nice silver Roadster. As I had recently finished my car and had purchased a '69 sr20 project car, I thought I'd see if I could get a fair price for my finished one to help with the costs of the new project. Craig's reputation and contacts were invaluable, and lead to the sale. We agreed upon his fee, which I was happy to pay. He helped the buyer with shipping ?'s and was fair and honest to deal with. Because of Craig, I was able to sell my car from out here in podunk Idaho to a qualified buyer in Florida. It was well worth the price of his services. Pat Mahoney >From: "barterdude" >Reply-To: barterdude@comcast.net >To: >Subject: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster >Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:50:26 -0600 > >Didn't have much success the last time playing with EBay trying to sell my >1970 2000 roadster. Wondering if any has had experience with >AutoTrader.com >or any other source to find a qualified buyer for cars in the range of 5 - >10 K in price? > > > >Gary Lasater ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 07:54:44 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 06:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? The best way to develop situational awareness (S.A.) on the road is to ride a motorcycle. I got my learner's permit at 15-1/2, license at 16 - for a motorcycle only ('cuz I had a motorcycle only - my folks said that when I could buy a car, I could get a license for a car). You learn very quickly on a bike (and mine was small, a Yamaha 100cc twin) that you are effectively invisible - and you are very vulnerable. I have had the drivers of oncoming vehicles look me right in the eye... and turn left in front of me anyway. The S.A. skills I learned as a callow youth have served me well in 35+ years on the road (it didn't hurt that, with a father who was a CHP officer, I heard a lot of rather sobering stories about the possible consequences of inattention on the road, as well as reading CHP magazine every month and seeing the photos accompanying the accident reports...). Of course, these are DEFENSIVE driving skills, and unfortunately there are many people out there, like Fred's friend with the huge 4WD truck, who practice OFFENSIVE driving - all the more reason for the rest of us to develop good S.A. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Fred Katz wrote: Soon after a friend of mine bought a huge 4WD truck, he was telling me people were honking their horns at him as he changed lanes, and he would swerve back in the nick of time to avoid clobbering the other car. I told him he needs to be aware of what's in the next lane. He told me it's not his fault he can't see little cars below his right door window! OMG! He expected others to get out of his way when he changed lanes. I told him he's going to die of road rage someday unless he learned how to be aware of what's around him, or if he would get rid of the truck. When I drive, I also try to have an escape route around my car, and not to be boxed in with no escape from a bad driver next to me. Fred - So.SF On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:45 PM, peter harrison wrote: > Accidents mostly happen because the 'accentdee' > presumes that the accidenter knows what they are doing. Given that > they > don't, we stay the f&*(K out of their way and rollovers are minimal You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 08:04:39 2008 From: Dan Zubkoff To: datsun roadster Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Datsun Roadster - Fire http://www.cullmantimes.com/local/local_story_211221159.html July 29, 2008 10:11 pm Fire burns Vinemont building, classic car The Cullman Times By Patrick McCreless PATRICKM@CULLMANTIMES.COM VINEMONT  Carlos Wilhite spent years keeping his 1970 Datsun 1600 Roadster in mint condition. A quick spark was all it took to wipe out his hard work. I babied it and babied it, Wilhite said. Now its all burned up. Charred, twisted metal was all that remained of the classic car after it caught fire Tuesday at an unused building on County Road 1343 across from the Vinemont Super Saver service station. The building also received significant damage. Wilhite, who owns the building, said he was storing the vehicle there to keep dust off of it. The building I can fix, but I cant bring the car back, Wilhite said. While officials have not determined the cause of the blaze, to Wilhite the cause is obvious  his classic car. I was cleaning the building and I was going to leave with the car but the car wouldnt crank, Wilhite said. I put the charger on it and left and wasnt gone for 20 minutes ... and it was burnt all to pieces. Wilhite was at the scene while members of the Vinemont, Cullman, West Point, Goldridge, and Falkville Fire Departments fought the blaze. While flames were not visible, large clouds of gray smoke could easily be seen billowing from the buildings roof. Several firefighters helped Wilhite as he rescued an old piano from building. According to a press release from the Vinemont Fire Department, firefighters arrived at the scene at approximately 10:23 a.m. Upon arrival at the scene, firefighters could see heavy smoke and smoldering. Firefighters contained the blaze within an hour after their arrival. Nobody was injured during the incident. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 08:47:20 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:47:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roll bar Dale Earnhardt had that sudden stop when he was killed. Many were amazed that such a seemingly "little" accident could end his life. But he did go into the wall pretty directly. My own personal theory was that he had a heart attack. He had a person as well as family history of heart disease. Linda -----Original Message----- From: racery@comcast.net To: roadster list Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 6:10 am Subject: [Roadsters] Roll bar ..?The press loves to show a F1 car careening down the track, losing pieces as it goes, but the real danger is the sudden stop, not the slow, messy one. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 09:23:45 2008 From: stl@adnc.com To: Fred Katz Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:21:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? Whether its called defensive driving or staying "the f&*(K out of their way," it boils down to driving like you are invisible to the vehicles around you. And also, not flipping-off the 4WD truck when it changes lanes like you weren't there, doesn't swerve back, and runs you off the road. A friend driving a '69 MGB had that happen last week. The guys in the truck that had changed lanes into him and forced him into the center divider responded to his one-finger salute by tossing cans of coke at him that bounced off his windshield and narrowly missed clobbering him. At 70 MPH on a busy freeway it could have been fatal. Steve '69 2000 San Diego Quoting Fred Katz : > Soon after a friend of mine bought a huge 4WD truck, he was telling me > people were honking their horns at him as he changed lanes, and he > would swerve back in the nick of time to avoid clobbering the other > car. I told him he needs to be aware of what's in the next lane. He > told me it's not his fault he can't see little cars below his right > door window! OMG! He expected others to get out of his way when he > changed lanes. > > I told him he's going to die of road rage someday unless he learned > how to be aware of what's around him, or if he would get rid of the > truck. When I drive, I also try to have an escape route around my car, > and not to be boxed in with no escape from a bad driver next to me. > > Fred - So.SF > > On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:45 PM, peter harrison wrote: > >> Accidents mostly happen because the 'accentdee' >> presumes that the accidenter knows what they are doing. Given that >> they >> don't, we stay the f&*(K out of their way and rollovers are minimal > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as stl@adnc.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 09:55:32 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Dan Zubkoff , datsun roadster Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:55:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1970 Datsun Roadster - Fire It's always heartbreaking when you read a story like this. A few years ago, we had devestating wild fires in Southern California that burned hundreds of homes in the greater San Diego and Orange County areas. A great guy by the name of Barrie Strahan lost an incredibly beautiful custom 66 roadster that I remember very well. I can only hope the guy took a lot of pictures... Andrew Murphy 1966 1600> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:04:54 -0700> From: zubkoff@sbcglobal.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Datsun Roadster - Fire> > http://www.cullmantimes.com/local/local_story_211221159.html> > July 29, 2008 10:11 pm > Fire burns Vinemont building, classic car> The Cullman Times> > By Patrick McCreless> > PATRICKM@CULLMANTIMES.COM> > VINEMONT  Carlos Wilhite spent years keeping his 1970 Datsun 1600 Roadster in mint condition. A quick spark was all it took to wipe out his hard work.> > I babied it and babied it, Wilhite said. Now its all burned up.> > Charred, twisted metal was all that remained of the classic car after it caught fire Tuesday at an unused building on County Road 1343 across from the Vinemont Super Saver service station. The building also received significant damage.> > Wilhite, who owns the building, said he was storing the vehicle there to keep dust off of it.> > The building I can fix, but I cant bring the car back, Wilhite said.> > While officials have not determined the cause of the blaze, to Wilhite the cause is obvious  his classic car.> > I was cleaning the building and I was going to leave with the car but the car wouldnt crank, Wilhite said. I put the charger on it and left and wasnt gone for 20 minutes ... and it was burnt all to pieces.> > Wilhite was at the scene while members of the Vinemont, Cullman, West Point, Goldridge, and Falkville Fire Departments fought the blaze. While flames were not visible, large clouds of gray smoke could easily be seen billowing from the buildings roof. Several firefighters helped Wilhite as he rescued an old piano from building.> > According to a press release from the Vinemont Fire Department, firefighters arrived at the scene at approximately 10:23 a.m. Upon arrival at the scene, firefighters could see heavy smoke and smoldering. > _________________________________________________________________ Get more from your digital life. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 10:38:25 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: chalsted@comcast.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:37:11 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster Dear listers, ya, I know I should probably not write this as it is not really "Roadster" related (but to me it is), but when I read this posting by Craig, my heart just sank. I watch what goes on in politics, business, and society, and I just ask "Where is the Honor and Integrity?" I work in an ER as a Social Worker, 9 years as a therapist, so I have no illusions about people. But I mean really... at the end of the day you should be able to look yourself in the mirror and hold your head high... not because you have money, status, a nice car, etc, but because you have Honor, no matter what. I know that in any group you are going to have people who share your interest in things and hobbies (Roadsters in this case) who do not have Honor, but the vast majority of my experiences with "Roadster people" have been positive. ALL my friends in the past 25 years have come from my Roadster. People like what Craig has recently experienced are not truly Roadster people to me. They lack Honor. I guarantee that lack will come back to haunt them... just ask any of the hundreds of people I have worked with. And then they wonder why their lives are so screwed up. Duh. If I am reaching anyone out there who lacks Honor and Integrity, it is not too late to change your ways. It is not hard. You just do it. Do it today. You make the choice. You don't bullshit yourself anymore. I've watched some people who were pretty low in life step up. You can too. And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion... "And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear, and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on his face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..." Greg Burrows, M.S. 67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA -- "chalsted" wrote: on a recent such deal, I ended up receiving 1/4 yes 25% of what the seller had told me he would give me if I sold the car for him at the price I sold it for him at- and further told me if I so much as mentioned his name or complained or slandered him (don't believe it's slander if I tell the truth and I have all the e-mails) he would make sure I didn't get a penny. ____________________________________________________________ Click for information on obtaining a VA loan. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4tzAp50VvOLGbpDO7Bnz9KYC 0bLhBXVTkpT0LXTdFJgzq9D4/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 10:51:03 2008 From: Tim To: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 9:51:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster Amen and well said. 130 mph in 3rd? Oh I want a car that will do that sooooo bad. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "gregs672liter@netzero.net" wrote: ============= Dear listers, ya, I know I should probably not write this as it is not really "Roadster" related (but to me it is), but when I read this posting by Craig, my heart just sank. I watch what goes on in politics, business, and society, and I just ask "Where is the Honor and Integrity?" I work in an ER as a Social Worker, 9 years as a therapist, so I have no illusions about people. But I mean really... at the end of the day you should be able to look yourself in the mirror and hold your head high... not because you have money, status, a nice car, etc, but because you have Honor, no matter what. I know that in any group you are going to have people who share your interest in things and hobbies (Roadsters in this case) who do not have Honor, but the vast majority of my experiences with "Roadster people" have been positive. ALL my friends in the past 25 years have come from my Roadster. People like what Craig has recently experienced are not truly Roadster people to me. They lack Honor. I guarantee that lack will come back to haunt them... just ask any of the hundreds of people I have worked with. And then they wonder why their lives are so screwed up. Duh. If I am reaching anyone out there who lacks Honor and Integrity, it is not too late to change your ways. It is not hard. You just do it. Do it today. You make the choice. You don't bullshit yourself anymore. I've watched some people who were pretty low in life step up. You can too. And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion... "And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear, and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on his face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..." Greg Burrows, M.S. 67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA -- "chalsted" wrote: on a recent such deal, I ended up receiving 1/4 yes 25% of what the seller had told me he would give me if I sold the car for him at the price I sold it for him at- and further told me if I so much as mentioned his name or complained or slandered him (don't believe it's slander if I tell the truth and I have all the e-mails) he would make sure I didn't get a penny. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 11:12:12 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:12:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 130mph in third.... We didn't do 130, but I can vouch that Greg's 67.5 2000 is a rocket! Looking forward to its fresh bodywork and paint. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:51 AM To: gregs672liter@netzero.net; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster [snip] 130 mph in 3rd? Oh I want a car that will do that sooooo bad. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "gregs672liter@netzero.net" wrote: [snip] And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion... "And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear, and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on his face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..." Greg Burrows, M.S. 67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 11:22:19 2008 From: "Lars Tungen" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:22:13 +0200 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Vin Decoder Hi all, I have created a Roadster Vin# decoder. The idea is that you can enter a vin# and get some useful information about the car. Consider it an untested beta. Currently it will recognize the 311 1600 & 2000, 310 1500 and the CSP311. If you have suggestions on how to improve the output or see any errors, please let me know. I plan to add an estimated engine# output by using the vin & engine numbers I collected earlier. I also have some questions regarding the implementation of the decoder that I hope someone can answer: When was the later style gear box (Warner) introduced? The current implementation of the decoder assumes that all 1970's have the Warner, while all early 1969 and earlier have the Porsche style. Late 1969's may have the Warner or the Porsche style. Is this correct? Is it possible to distinguish between 1965, 1966 and early 1967 model years by looking at the vin#? Phill Brook's Fair Lady book suggests that 17 Silvia's were made in 1964 before the "official" production start in may 1965. Are these prototypes, and what engines did they have? The vin decoder is available here: http://datsun311.partsmanual.net/ModelYearsVin/tabid/304/Default.aspx And here's a tiny url if the link above get's broken by the mail system: http://tinyurl.com/6gjgej Regards, Lars Tungen Norway ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 11:23:44 2008 From: Tim To: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:23:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster well, yea, I figured that but I forgot the little ;-) guy at the end of that line. And one can always dream! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "gregs672liter@netzero.net" wrote: ============= Thanks... 130mph... ha! Ya right... just wanted to "lighten things up a bit!" Greg -- Tim wrote: Amen and well said. 130 mph in 3rd? Oh I want a car that will do that sooooo bad. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "gregs672liter@netzero.net" wrote: ============= Dear listers, ya, I know I should probably not write this as it is not really "Roadster" related (but to me it is), but when I read this posting by Craig, my heart just sank. I watch what goes on in politics, business, and society, and I just ask "Where is the Honor and Integrity?" I work in an ER as a Social Worker, 9 years as a therapist, so I have no illusions about people. But I mean really... at the end of the day you should be able to look yourself in the mirror and hold your head high... not because you have money, status, a nice car, etc, but because you have Honor, no matter what. I know that in any group you are going to have people who share your interest in things and hobbies (Roadsters in this case) who do not have Honor, but the vast majority of my experiences with "Roadster people" have been positive. ALL my friends in the past 25 years have come from my Roadster. People like what Craig has recently experienced are not truly Roadster people to me. They lack Honor. I guarantee that lack will come back to haunt them... just ask any of the hundreds of people I have worked with. And then they wonder why their lives are so screwed up. Duh. If I am reaching anyone out there who lacks Honor and Integrity, it is not too late to change your ways. It is not hard. You just do it. Do it today. You make the choice. You don't bullshit yourself anymore. I've watched some people who were pretty low in life step up. You can too. And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion... "And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear, and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on his face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..." Greg Burrows, M.S. 67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA -- "chalsted" wrote: on a recent such deal, I ended up receiving 1/4 yes 25% of what the seller had told me he would give me if I sold the car for him at the price I sold it for him at- and further told me if I so much as mentioned his name or complained or slandered him (don't believe it's slander if I tell the truth and I have all the e-mails) he would make sure I didn't get a penny. ____________________________________________________________ Click here to increase your salary by earning an online degree. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4uI3tn7IQC6imcBxwp26FdyRQoF06Rxx1Nm1Y7Vn8RUiBS6M/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 11:56:49 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:57:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Vin Decoder Very cool, Lars. You might consider changing the text and/or background color/shading of the Model & Production grid. Hard to read black text on dark gray background. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lars Tungen Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Vin Decoder Hi all, I have created a Roadster Vin# decoder. The idea is that you can enter a vin# and get some useful information about the car. Consider it an untested beta. Currently it will recognize the 311 1600 & 2000, 310 1500 and the CSP311. If you have suggestions on how to improve the output or see any errors, please let me know. I plan to add an estimated engine# output by using the vin & engine numbers I collected earlier. I also have some questions regarding the implementation of the decoder that I hope someone can answer: When was the later style gear box (Warner) introduced? The current implementation of the decoder assumes that all 1970's have the Warner, while all early 1969 and earlier have the Porsche style. Late 1969's may have the Warner or the Porsche style. Is this correct? Is it possible to distinguish between 1965, 1966 and early 1967 model years by looking at the vin#? Phill Brook's Fair Lady book suggests that 17 Silvia's were made in 1964 before the "official" production start in may 1965. Are these prototypes, and what engines did they have? The vin decoder is available here: http://datsun311.partsmanual.net/ModelYearsVin/tabid/304/Default.aspx And here's a tiny url if the link above get's broken by the mail system: http://tinyurl.com/6gjgej Regards, Lars Tungen Norway Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 11:58:36 2008 From: "D Riedel" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:58:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws Well... after 2 days soak, reapplication of penetrant and heat, 5 of 8 screws came out of the visor/rear-view/roof-clamp apparatus. On the remaining 3, I twisted the heads off. Damn. Luckily, 3 of the 4 in the centre came out, so could I throw the rear-view mirror back on temporarily. Any nifty tricks for solving my new problem of broken screw extraction? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 12:05:01 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:05:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws Very carefully.... :--( EZ-Outs (yeah, yeah, I know), or maybe the Drill-Out/Screw-Out items I saw in the Craftsman catalog. Anyone have any experience with these? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of D Riedel Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:59 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws Well... after 2 days soak, reapplication of penetrant and heat, 5 of 8 screws came out of the visor/rear-view/roof-clamp apparatus. On the remaining 3, I twisted the heads off. Damn. Luckily, 3 of the 4 in the centre came out, so could I throw the rear-view mirror back on temporarily. Any nifty tricks for solving my new problem of broken screw extraction? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 12:13:54 2008 From: "D Riedel" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:13:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 90-copper elbow on 2000 valve cover Todd, I noticed in a message from the archives that you epoxied a 1/2" 90 deg copper elbow to your valve cover to allow you to use a generic section of hose for your PCV. On my valve cover, the elbow doesn't fit over the original fitting. Did you heat it up to slip it on, or did you just epoxy it butted together? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 12:30:56 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:30:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws, << Any nifty tricks for solving my new problem of broken screw extraction? >> Now this one I have done, both to mine and with Eric on his car. -if sharp and angled, (usally is) dremel a bit off so you have a flat -use a center punch to mark a divot so your drill stays put -1/8" or smaller drill bit, make a small hole. Use coolant, take your time, these break easily. -drill incrementally larger holes until you can get an "EZ-Out" (just a pseudonym, not really that easy), which for this small size is not reverse threaded, it is more commonly a square peg that you pound into the round hole and twist with a wrench -I was finaly successful just drilling larger and larger until all the remains fell out, then tapped it for one size larger. Good luck, get comfy, you'll be there a while. Fergus O ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 12:46:31 2008 From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:46:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done All, Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with trying to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that launched a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math. Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust? Nathaniel Real Car: SU-U20 '69 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 12:52:06 2008 From: Tim To: Nathaniel Leeds , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:52:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done I used Intercity Lines when I had my Dad's Roadster brought from Northern CA to me here in WI. Dad said they were very professional on his end and I feel the same about my end. And the car actually made it to me a day or two quicker than they said it would. They are not the cheapest, but I was warned away from the cheaper ones for a couple main reasons: Most did not offer covered transport and mainly, I was told the less scrupulous drivers might try to get more money out of me to unload the car. My .02 Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Nathaniel Leeds wrote: ============= All, Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with trying to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that launched a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math. Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust? Nathaniel Real Car: SU-U20 '69 You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 13:39:27 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: gregs672liter@netzero.net, chalsted@comcast.net Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:39:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster Right on, Greg. And those same low-lifers wind up begging someone to save them in the ER, perhaps realizing that Karma maybe about to bite them in the a**. Linda -----Original Message----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: chalsted@comcast.net Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 9:37 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster Dear listers, ya, I know I should probably not write this as it is not really "Roadster" related (but to me it is), but when I read this posting by Craig, my heart just sank. I watch what goes on in politics, business, and society, and I just ask "Where is the Honor and Integrity?" I work in an ER as a Social Worker, 9 years as a therapist, so I have no illusions about people. But I mean really... at the end of the day you should be able to look yourself in the mirror and hold your head high... not because you have money, status, a nice car, etc, but because you have Honor, no matter what. I know that in any group you are going to have people who share your interest in things and hobbies (Roadsters in this case) who do not have Honor, but the vast majority of my experiences with "Roadster people" have been positive. ALL my friends in the past 25 years have come from my Roadster. People like what Craig has recently experienced are not truly Roadster people to me. They lack Honor. I guarantee that lack will come back to haunt them... just ask any of the hundreds of people I have worked with. And then they wonder why their lives are so screwed up. Duh. If I am reaching anyone out there who lacks Honor and Integrity, it is not too late to change your ways. It is not hard. You just do it. Do it today. You make the choice. You don't bullshit yourself anymore. I've watched some people who were pretty low in life step up. You can too. And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion... "And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd gear, and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on his face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..." Greg Burrows, M.S. 67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 14:52:14 2008 From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'D Riedel'" , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:50:11 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Sun-visor/rear-view mirror screws You were talking about the roadster, correct? :-) (hey, it's funnier than a spelling thread) Tim ------------------------ Well... after 2 days soak, penetrant and heat, 5 of 8 Screws... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 17:35:03 2008 From: NotMGB To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:35:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself. Is it ethical to say on the 28th selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the expenses of having a roadster obsession, a labor of love. if you folks don't have the decency, honesty, and integrity to appreciate that And say a week later: playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white haired retired guy ;-) Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body another car? Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2 years? Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts? Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 17:44:35 2008 From: "Mark Dent" To: "NotMGB" , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:44:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster Is it ethical for you to come here and not sign your name? I have known Craig for 10+ years, he is a good guy just looking to make ends meet. You are a coward. Crawl back in your hole. Mark -------------------------------------------------- From: "NotMGB" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:35 PM To: Subject: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster > I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself. > > Is it ethical to say on the 28th > > > selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the > expenses of having a roadster > obsession, a labor of love. if you folks don't have the decency, honesty, > and > integrity to appreciate that > > And say a week later: > > playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white > haired retired guy ;-) > > > Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a > good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body > another car? > Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the > last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2 > years? > Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an > offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts? > > Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark@dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: 8/5/2008 > 6:03 AM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 17:53:38 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:53:52 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done I used Wolfe Transport to get my roadster from San Jose, CA to Seattle, WA. Cost $450. Very professional on the phone, and no problems with the driver/delivery. The only thing I would do different next time is to arrange covered transport as my soft top front grommets got torn out, which I didn't notice until weeks later. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Nathaniel Leeds" > All, > > Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with trying > to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that launched > a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the > Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math. > > Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust? > > Nathaniel > Real Car: SU-U20 '69 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 17:57:57 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , "NotMGB" Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:58:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster ----- Original Message ----- From: NotMGB > I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself. > > Is it ethical to say on the 28th > selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the > expenses of having a roadster obsession, a labor of love. if you folks >don't have the decency, honesty, and integrity to appreciate that > > And say a week later: > > playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white > haired retired guy ;-) Craig sells roadster parts for fun, makes a living off of buying and selling cars, boats, motorcycles, motorhomes, and darn near anything else. Nothing unethical there. > > Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a > good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body > another car? So maybe he should have said HOMES. But most of the car would have staid intact. > Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the > last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2 > years? Craig has many roadsters at his place. But most suffer from east coast ravages of rust. He has been looking for a 'great' body for his 67.5 since I've known him (10+ years). > Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an > offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts? Please, he paid the asking price for the car. Nothing even remotely unethical about that. I suppose if WalMart was selling something at a fraction of what you thought it was worth, you'd argue with them to pay more? Asking price is always set by the sellier. Selling price is negotiated between buyer and seller. I see nothing unethical with that either. Sort of sounds like American way! > > Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me? Ethics is what you do when some one is watching. Morals are what you do when nobody is watching. Craig knows his market and works hard to make a living while having fun. Anything else I can help you with? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 18:21:54 2008 From: David Mohammed To: Nathaniel Leeds , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:22:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done One place you can check out is Uship.com. They let you put in the price you are wanting to pay and then shippers will bid for your job. The lady I sold my roadster to was able to ship her car enclosed for $600 from FL to TX. It just happened the shipper was going that way and had a space left on the trailer. David. > From: nmleeds@mindspring.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:46:37 -0700 > Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone done this? > > All, > > Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with trying > to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that launched > a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the > Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math. > > Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust? > > Nathaniel > Real Car: SU-U20 '69 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as virtualmaniac@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergames?ocid=TXT_TAGHM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 19:16:31 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:16:39 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, Hello all, A some of you know I was diagnosed with CFS about four years ago. After being turned down by social security three time I finally had a hearing before the judge today. Not only did he agree that I am disabled he made it retroactive back to when I left work in '04. We are all pretty much stunned. After four years of battles with my insurance and social security there is finally a bit of sanity. Now, back to our normally scheduled squabbling, Keith "the slow carb guy" williams **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 19:51:43 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Nathaniel Leeds" , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:51:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone Nathaniel, I just had my "new" '67-1/2 2000 shipped from San Diego to Chicago by Intercity Lines. Enclosed transport, very professional. Not the cheapest, but great service and the car arrived in immaculate condition. There were two other roadsters on the truck at the same time, destined for Indianapolis. All of us have a lot of money in our cars, so I didn't want to take any chances. Send me an E-mail address and I'll send you the pics of the loading process. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Getting cars towed cross country -- anyone donethis? > All, > > Thankfully this is an un-Datsun related question. But I am faced with > trying > to get a Fiat 124 from L.A. to Colorado. The Fiat 124, the car that > launched > a thousand third world imitations, is not really up to crossing the > Rockies -- 65 hp, 2000 lbs. makes for ugly math. > > Does anyone have an affordable transporter they trust? > > Nathaniel > Real Car: SU-U20 '69 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 19:57:18 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Pete Peters" , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:57:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 130mph in third.... I used to like rockets. I still do, up to about 80 mph. That's usually enough to convince whomever wlse is around that they don't have a chance. After that, I enjoy a nice ride more. No disparagement of Grag's car intended. Just my priorities are different now than when I had the interesting encounter with the CHP 35 years ago.... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 12:12 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 130mph in third.... > We didn't do 130, but I can vouch that Greg's 67.5 2000 is a rocket! > Looking > forward to its fresh bodywork and paint. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:51 AM > To: gregs672liter@netzero.net; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Best source for selling a roadster > > > [snip] > > 130 mph in 3rd? Oh I want a car that will do that sooooo bad. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- "gregs672liter@netzero.net" wrote: > > [snip] > > And now, back to our regularly scheduled Roadster discussion... > > "And so there I was, doing at least 130mph, when I shifted out of 3rd > gear, > and the guy in the Porsche is just lookin' at me, and I see actual fear on > his face, and his girlfriend is kinda given me the eye..." > > Greg Burrows, M.S. > 67 2000 Bonney Lake, WA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 20:18:49 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:19:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster Amen, Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: ; "NotMGB" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster > ----- Original Message ----- > From: NotMGB > > >> I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself. >> >> Is it ethical to say on the 28th >> selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the >> expenses of having a roadster obsession, a labor of love. if you folks >>don't have the decency, honesty, and integrity to appreciate that >> >> And say a week later: >> >> playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white >> haired retired guy ;-) > > Craig sells roadster parts for fun, makes a living off of buying and > selling cars, boats, motorcycles, motorhomes, and darn near anything else. > Nothing unethical there. > >> >> Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a >> good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body >> another car? > > So maybe he should have said HOMES. But most of the car would have staid > intact. > >> Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the >> last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2 >> years? > > Craig has many roadsters at his place. But most suffer from east coast > ravages of rust. He has been looking for a 'great' body for his 67.5 > since > I've known him (10+ years). > >> Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an >> offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts? > > Please, he paid the asking price for the car. Nothing even remotely > unethical about that. I suppose if WalMart was selling something at a > fraction of what you thought it was worth, you'd argue with them to pay > more? > Asking price is always set by the sellier. Selling price is negotiated > between buyer and seller. I see nothing unethical with that either. Sort > of sounds like American way! >> >> Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me? > > Ethics is what you do when some one is watching. Morals are what you do > when nobody is watching. Craig knows his market and works hard to make a > living while having fun. Anything else I can help you with? > > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 20:20:04 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:20:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, Keith, I know what CRS is, since I suffer from it myself. But, what is CFS? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy and social security > Hello all, > > A some of you know I was diagnosed with CFS about four years ago. > After > being turned down by social security three time I finally had a hearing > before the judge today. Not only did he agree that I am disabled he made > it > retroactive back to when I left work in '04. We are all pretty much > stunned. After > four years of battles with my insurance and social security there is > finally > a bit of sanity. > > Now, back to our normally scheduled squabbling, > > Keith "the slow carb guy" williams > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 > ) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 20:24:40 2008 From: Ruth To: , Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:24:31 +1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it all? I know this is getting further and further OT, but... Sometimes you are in the lap of the gods (or more correctly, the other stupid drivers out there) no matter how many safety features you have on your car/bike. A friend of mine was in an accident last week, and spent a week in ICU ventilated with a broken pelvis, punctured lung, lacerated liver and a whole host of associated injuries meaning she will maybe never work as a nurse again. She's on the ward now, but it's going to be a long slow recovery. She was riding to work on her motorcycle in the rain, when the car in front of her stopped for a red light. She stopped in plenty of time, but the 4WD behind her didn't. She was sandwiched between the front of the 4WD and the car briefly, then the 4WD skidded over the top of her. So be careful, and always assume that the other guy is a dickhead. And get a roll bar. And an airbag. But even that won't necessarily keep you out of the ER. Ruth. On 05/08/2008, at 11:54 PM, Gary McCormick wrote: > The best way to develop situational awareness (S.A.) on the road is > to ride a motorcycle. I got my learner's permit at 15-1/2, license > at 16 - for a motorcycle only ('cuz I had a motorcycle only - my > folks said that when I could buy a car, I could get a license for a > car). You learn very quickly on a bike (and mine was small, a Yamaha > 100cc twin) that you are effectively invisible - and you are very > vulnerable. I have had the drivers of oncoming vehicles look me > right in the eye... and turn left in front of me anyway. > > The S.A. skills I learned as a callow youth have served me well in > 35+ years on the road (it didn't hurt that, with a father who was a > CHP officer, I heard a lot of rather sobering stories about the > possible consequences of inattention on the road, as well as > reading CHP magazine every month and seeing the photos accompanying > the accident reports...). > > Of course, these are DEFENSIVE driving skills, and unfortunately > there are many people out there, like Fred's friend with the huge > 4WD truck, who practice OFFENSIVE driving - all the more reason for > the rest of us to develop good S.A. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 20:26:13 2008 From: "Graeme" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:56:31 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, CFS: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome But, what is CFS? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 21:47:56 2008 From: "David R. Conrad" To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:48:01 -1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, For "CRS" on the acronym list, for medical conditions all I saw were two: (1)Congenital Rubella Syndrome and (2)Cranial-rectal syndrome. The latter was followed by ;-) Since the list WAS quite long, perhaps I missed another... :-) -Dave On Aug 5, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Keith, > > I know what CRS is, since I suffer from it myself. But, what is CFS? > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:16 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy > and > social security > > >> Hello all, >> >> A some of you know I was diagnosed with CFS about four years ago. >> After >> being turned down by social security three time I finally had a >> hearing >> before the judge today. Not only did he agree that I am disabled >> he made >> it >> retroactive back to when I left work in '04. We are all pretty much >> stunned. After >> four years of battles with my insurance and social security there is >> finally >> a bit of sanity. >> >> Now, back to our normally scheduled squabbling, >> >> Keith "the slow carb guy" williams >> >> >> >> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your >> budget? >> Read reviews on AOL Autos. >> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? >> ncid=aolaut00050000000017 >> ) >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as konadave1@hawaii.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 21:54:24 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'David R. Conrad'" , "'Gary and Cindy Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:54:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, I understand that second condition requires the services of a neuroproctologist to cure. Then there's the condition called Optical Rectitis. That's where your optic nerve gets crossed up with your asshole and you have a shitty outlook on life. In my own case, CRS stands for "Can't Remember Shit" and I think my case is incurable. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David R. Conrad Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:48 PM To: Gary and Cindy Ault Cc: Keith0alan@aol.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy and social security For "CRS" on the acronym list, for medical conditions all I saw were two: (1)Congenital Rubella Syndrome and (2)Cranial-rectal syndrome. The latter was followed by ;-) Since the list WAS quite long, perhaps I missed another... :-) -Dave On Aug 5, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Keith, > > I know what CRS is, since I suffer from it myself. But, what is CFS? > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:16 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy > and > social security > > >> Hello all, >> >> A some of you know I was diagnosed with CFS about four years ago. >> After >> being turned down by social security three time I finally had a >> hearing >> before the judge today. Not only did he agree that I am disabled >> he made >> it >> retroactive back to when I left work in '04. We are all pretty much >> stunned. After >> four years of battles with my insurance and social security there is >> finally >> a bit of sanity. >> >> Now, back to our normally scheduled squabbling, >> >> Keith "the slow carb guy" williams >> >> >> >> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your >> budget? >> Read reviews on AOL Autos. >> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? >> ncid=aolaut00050000000017 >> ) >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as konadave1@hawaii.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 22:20:44 2008 From: John Wightman To: NotMGB Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:20:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ethics - was: Best source for selling a roadster Oh, so YOU'RE the knob that screwed him out of his deal... big surprise you won't even sign your name. JW P.S. I don't even know Craig, but I know an ass when I hear one braying... On Aug 5, 2008, at 4:35 PM, NotMGB wrote: > I am wondering exactly what is ethical myself. > > Is it ethical to say on the 28th > > > selling parts is not a profit making venture, it merely offsets the > expenses of having a roadster > obsession, a labor of love. if you folks don't have the decency, > honesty, and > integrity to appreciate that > > And say a week later: > > playing with roadsters is my sole source of income, I'm an old white > haired retired guy ;-) > > > Is it ethical to tell the woman in Redding you will give her car a > good home, then tell the list you were going to use it to re-body > another car? > Is it ethical to say you have been looking for a 67.5 body for the > last 20 years, when you have had some at your house in the last 2 > years? > Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an > offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts? > > Can someone clear this ethics thing up for me? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as johnwightman@shaw.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 22:31:25 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Graeme" , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:31:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, Graeme, Did you mean "CRS"? "Can't Remember S____". Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, the slow carb guy and social security > CFS: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome > But, what is CFS? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 03:09:52 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 05:09:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] test... I'd crafted my own response to notmgb, but even though I sent it twice, didn't make it to the list somehow.wondered if I was still on. I did send it straight to notmgb though and it didn't kick back. maybe the word "suck" wouldn't make it thru some filter... Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 03:20:36 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 05:20:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] my own response to notmgb sure,since you are the same person that skewered me when I had a stroke a couple years ago... the good home is mine for the roadster, I have had #6 2000 for over 20 years and have looked for a good body. the ones I have picked up in the meantime were not as good as I'd hoped, as they sounded in ads... folks are not always aware of the realities of what kind of shape their roadsters they are offering for sale are actually in.. heck, I went all the way out to California to pick up one I bought that was "rust free" what a piece of crap... times dictated that it was less of a job to turn them into drivers than to do a body swap and go to all the trouble with the body on #6 which needs a rear clip the door on the Redding car is easy to fix or replace, nice interior for the most part except for the console...I have the remains of a 67.5 Solex 2000 also with no body or chassis, just original engine, Solexes, comp pan, new top, top frame, a NOS fender... I went all the way to Newfoundland to get that one. bet I passed pretty colse to your place, too..... I build cars primarily for my own pleasure, unfortunately getting the mortgage paid and bills and now college for my daughter and major medical bills requires I sell my own personal drivers from time to time. I have invested my own personal time and efforts to adding parts to them, engines or other, wheels, tires, doing brakes, other stuff... and I have made a couple nice ones. one went to Oregon, was the nicest one I ever had. needed to pay bills, that person made me an offer I couldn't refuse after driving the car. paid a couple months mortgage, picked up another one and started again..actually, had to do a second swap on the drivetrain of the one I'd brought back from Colorado 2 years previous. got it registered, insured, someone was looking and made me the offer I couldn't refuse on that one. next question: Is it ethical to buy a 67 2000 on the list for $4K with rare parts an offer it up on the same list 3 weeks later for $4K without the parts? absolutely. it's mine to sell and none of your friggin business. I actually sold it for the same $4k to someone who has another 67.5 I used to own. he would have had to pay $8k for what he got if bought piece by piece. he gave me some carburetors for my efforts. so as far as ethics and integrity, I'm fine as for you, notmgb, why don't you go suck an egg that's the family version of what I had to tell you back when you were screwing with the auction on the RL411 out in Oregon after my stroke. it sits in my driveway, I've been collecting parts for it for 2 years, and the wheelcovers are still on it. kiss off and mind your own business- go crawl back under your rock again. Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 03:43:15 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 05:43:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun roadsters, worldwide e-charities I do have a project going on at the moment that's not really roadster related, although my roadsters have made an interesting calling card... this past weekend I set up 30 what I'll call "e-charitable organizations" the concept had been touched upon as initially 9 out of 30 domain names I tried to register were taken. they had not done their homework though, and I pretty much tied up the concept. each charitable organization is geared towards a specific group of people, there will be 2 counters on each website. one will show a running tally of donations, the other will have a running tally of where the donated funds are applied worldwide. along with what was done with them. a MINIMUM of 90% of all funds channeled into the charities will be directly applied where needed, practically instantaneously. no politics, no red tape. could have provided what they needed desperately within days after the Tsunami or New Orleans... I read last week that 27,000 children are dying daily of starvation worldwide.. that is absolutely, totally unacceptible and something had to be done NOW... it has been theorized that the "Second Coming of Christ" will come about around our general time frame, would't it be sad if this great collective individual were born into poverty and died of starvation? these charities are structured to raise large amounts of money instantaneously for the benefit of humankind. I will literally GIVE some of them away to people who have already shown an inclination to do good deeds. would like to talk to Oprah, her "Big Give" was part of my inspiration. think if she gave charities already set up ready to run to say 5 groups of people and they applied all their focus to generating cash to make a difference...got web hosting, SSL encryption on every one of them... cost me more than most of the roadsters I buy... but the time has come for humanity to experience a quantum move forward toward our ultimate destiny. if you're interested in involvement in any of this, no financial participation required- I've set it up out of pocket. just a belief in what I'm trying to do and skills to help achieve that. web design is one skill. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly...occasional interesting ideas http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 07:47:40 2008 From: "Mike Faggart" To: "datsun list" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:47:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond, formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1, 2008. He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the battle. Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun. He made the trip to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the southeast. A true friend that will be missed. -- Mike Faggart SEROC 68-2L ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 07:53:29 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: aultgc@att.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:53:35 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A little OT but not too bad, In a message dated 8/5/2008 7:20:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, aultgc@att.net writes: Keith, I know what CRS is, since I suffer from it myself. But, what is CFS? Gary I have CRS also but that's different. CFS is Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. The primary symptom is profound fatigue with minimal exertion and very slow recover from that fatigue. It's different from being sleepy. There are some other symptoms like having a 24/7 headache. Fortunately that mostly went away when I quit work. One of the issues with CFS is becoming so frustrated with not being able to do things that you do something unfortunate. I'm lucky to have the roadster stuff and a few other projects, not to mention all the wonderful people in my life to help keep me engaged and as active as I can be. keith "that's why I'm the slow carb guy" williams **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 07:56:49 2008 From: "Robin Lemons" To: "Mike Faggart" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:57:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC RIP :-( On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Mike Faggart wrote: > It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond, > formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1, > 2008. He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the > battle. Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun. He made the trip > to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the > southeast. A true friend that will be missed. > > -- > Mike Faggart > SEROC > 68-2L > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as buzzardmountainz@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 08:16:58 2008 From: Mike Harper To: datsun list , Mike Faggart Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC I have met very few people who enjoyed life any more than Chris. He was truly a "wild man" in the absolute BEST sense of the word. I never saw him without a smile, and never saw him in his roadster when he didn't want to race me! He will be missed. The Mitty will never be the same...One of the biggest compliments I ever received was when Chris said he wanted to be like me when he grew up. The good news is that Chris never grew up, the bad news is we will be without him. Mike Harper SC --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Mike Faggart wrote: > From: Mike Faggart > Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC > To: "datsun list" > Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 9:47 AM > It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my > friend, Chris Bond, > formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away > Friday, August 1, > 2008. He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it > finally won the > battle. Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun. > He made the trip > to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here > is the > southeast. A true friend that will be missed. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 08:39:40 2008 From: To: "Mike Faggart" , "datsun list" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:39:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC He was a great roadster friend. He will be missed. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Faggart" To: "datsun list" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC > It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond, > formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1, > 2008. He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the > battle. Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun. He made the trip > to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the > southeast. A true friend that will be missed. > > -- > Mike Faggart > SEROC > 68-2L ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 09:25:48 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "datsun list" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:25:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC No Mitty will ever be the same without Chris! Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 09:25:56 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:25:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC He aounds like a graat guy, sorry to hear of his passing. As a side note, many cancers can be detected early, like prostate and colon. So you guys might want to get tested Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Faggart" To: "datsun list" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC > It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond, > formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1, > 2008. He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the > battle. Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun. He made the trip > to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the > southeast. A true friend that will be missed. > > -- > Mike Faggart > SEROC > 68-2L You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 10:51:07 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Datsun list Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:50:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training FWIW, one of the best "driving" courses I have ever taken was the Washington State sponsored motorcycle safety course. Others I have talked to say the same thing. Even if you're not a rider, it will make you a better driver. It scares the heck out of me when I see folks ripping around on their new 49cc scooters with no formal training. (At least wear closed toe shoes....I won't even get into tiny tikes riding 750cc wake bikes and ATVs!) Hope this helps save a life. -Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" "Riding since '62" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 11:48:37 2008 From: pjmill@sonic.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC Just as the soft rains fill the streams, Pour into the rivers, And join together in the oceans, So may the power of every moment Of your goodness flow forth to awaken And heal all beings; Those here now, those gone before, those yet to come. -- A Buddhist Blessing At rest now -- at peace in all things. Paul > It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond, > formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1, > 2008. He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the > battle. Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun. He made the trip > to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the > southeast. A true friend that will be missed. > > -- > Mike Faggart > SEROC > 68-2L > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjmill@sonic.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 12:07:27 2008 From: "Kerry and Kae Zariwny" To: "Datsun list" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:59:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training Hi All I totally agree about the motorcycle course (and clothing). Both my wife (when she stopped being a pillion and got her own motorcycle) and I have taken the course. I took mine about 15 years ago when I first got my bike and have even taken the advance course several times since then (kinda like a "get ready for summer riding" tune up) What I love are the squids driving their liter bikes in flip-flops and shorts. I have had plenty of crashes on my mountain bike in shorts. I can't imagine crashing my motorcycle at 50 + mph in shorts. I would be picking out gravel for weeks! :-) Kerry Z 1968 1600 CBR 600rr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "Datsun list" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training > FWIW, one of the best "driving" courses I have ever taken was the > Washington > State sponsored motorcycle safety course. Others I have talked to say the > same thing. Even if you're not a rider, it will make you a better driver. > It > scares the heck out of me when I see folks ripping around on their new > 49cc > scooters with no formal training. (At least wear closed toe shoes....I > won't > even get into tiny tikes riding 750cc wake bikes and ATVs!) > > Hope this helps save a life. > > -Greg > SRL31100494 > "Roadstering since '75" > "Riding since '62" > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zariwny100@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 12:19:41 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: mikefaggart@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:19:09 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC To Mike and all that knew Chris, I am sorry for your loss... sounds like he was a great, fun guy. Remember that his love ALWAYS lives within you, there to be passed on to others you come in contact with. Your smiles are his smiles, as are the smiles you get back from others. It is what it really is all about. Share the love. Greg Burrows Bonney Lake, WA -- "Mike Faggart" wrote: It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, Chris Bond, formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed away Friday, August 1, 2008. He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it finally won the battle. Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun. He made the trip to Atlanta almost every year for our annual gathering here is the southeast. A true friend that will be missed. -- Mike Faggart SEROC 68-2L You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Click here to become a professional counselor in less time than you think. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4vFH837nUQWp38P5LIVgNl47 Xwxj9TxXEGdqPSrTENCF3Ync/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 12:22:57 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:26:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training Squids? Do I detect a jarhead in the crowd? Pete USN-Ret. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kerry and Kae Zariwny Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:59 AM To: Datsun list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training Hi All I totally agree about the motorcycle course (and clothing). Both my wife (when she stopped being a pillion and got her own motorcycle) and I have taken the course. I took mine about 15 years ago when I first got my bike and have even taken the advance course several times since then (kinda like a "get ready for summer riding" tune up) What I love are the squids driving their liter bikes in flip-flops and shorts. I have had plenty of crashes on my mountain bike in shorts. I can't imagine crashing my motorcycle at 50 + mph in shorts. I would be picking out gravel for weeks! :-) Kerry Z 1968 1600 CBR 600rr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "Datsun list" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training > FWIW, one of the best "driving" courses I have ever taken was the > Washington State sponsored motorcycle safety course. Others I have > talked to say the same thing. Even if you're not a rider, it will make > you a better driver. It > scares the heck out of me when I see folks ripping around on their new > 49cc > scooters with no formal training. (At least wear closed toe shoes....I > won't > even get into tiny tikes riding 750cc wake bikes and ATVs!) > > Hope this helps save a life. > > -Greg > SRL31100494 > "Roadstering since '75" > "Riding since '62" > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zariwny100@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 12:26:18 2008 From: Tim To: Kerry and Kae Zariwny , Datsun list Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:26:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training I have a scar from a mountain bike crash that took almost 40 stitches to close, including 9 internal that were less than a quarter inch from a vein the diameter of a cigarette. Had I been on a motor cycle I would have lost the leg (and possibly my life from blood loss) and I would not be able to clutch right now. This was almost 25 years ago and I am STILL very aware of motor cycles and bicycles when I am driving a car. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Kerry and Kae Zariwny wrote: ============= Hi All I totally agree about the motorcycle course (and clothing). Both my wife (when she stopped being a pillion and got her own motorcycle) and I have taken the course. I took mine about 15 years ago when I first got my bike and have even taken the advance course several times since then (kinda like a "get ready for summer riding" tune up) What I love are the squids driving their liter bikes in flip-flops and shorts. I have had plenty of crashes on my mountain bike in shorts. I can't imagine crashing my motorcycle at 50 + mph in shorts. I would be picking out gravel for weeks! :-) Kerry Z 1968 1600 CBR 600rr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "Datsun list" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Driver/rider safety training > FWIW, one of the best "driving" courses I have ever taken was the > Washington > State sponsored motorcycle safety course. Others I have talked to say the > same thing. Even if you're not a rider, it will make you a better driver. > It > scares the heck out of me when I see folks ripping around on their new > 49cc > scooters with no formal training. (At least wear closed toe shoes....I > won't > even get into tiny tikes riding 750cc wake bikes and ATVs!) > > Hope this helps save a life. > > -Greg > SRL31100494 > "Roadstering since '75" > "Riding since '62" > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zariwny100@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 12:52:48 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:52:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 66 on Wisconsin CL I know nothing about this, just passing it along. http://wausau.craigslist.org/car/767123427.html Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 17:09:48 2008 From: "Tom Phelan" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:10:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chris Bond, SEROC A very sad moment indeed. For a while there it looked like he might have been making some progress in his fight. We will all miss his infectious smile at the Mitty gatherings. A true Datsun/roadster lover/collector. God bless. Tom P > It is a very sad moment that i have to report that my friend, > Chris Bond, formally of Salisbury, and Shelbyville, IN passed > away Friday, August 1, > 2008. He fought a valient battle against cancer, but it > finally won the > battle. Chris was active in SEROC and loved his Datsun. He > made the trip to Atlanta almost every year for our annual > gathering here is the southeast. A true friend that will be missed. > > -- > Mike Faggart > SEROC > 68-2L ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 19:37:49 2008 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:39:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Readyn for paint Well it is finally ready! We finished taping her up on Tuesday night. This weekend the paint will finally go on. I posted a few more pics of the prep work. I have to go out of town, so I will not be able to get photos of the paint process, but I will post finished pics next week. John SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 20:46:00 2008 From: Steve Jacobson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbars and Harnesses AND a too short bar WITH shoulder harnesses means you are trapped upright with your head above the headlight to bar line with no way to lay, flop or get smooshed out of the way when the car flips and/or slides. Your head just gets ground/snapped off to the plane of the line. Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home www.elrss.com > -----Original Message----- > From: > datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com@autox.team.net]O > n Behalf Of Embarq Customer > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:16 PM > To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rollbar and Ragtop: Can I have it > all? > > > You all probably know my opinion on the whole rollbar deal > but I'll share it > again anyway. The rollbar needs to be tall enough so that > when a line is > drawn from the roll bar to the front of the car where it > will hit the > ground, the drivers head will be 2" below the line. > For a roadster that > means the roll bar needs to be much taller than will fit > under a top. > Anything less than that will provide no protection (ZERO) > to the driver or > passenger. It is only for vanity at that point. My advice > is to leave the > rollbar out and operate the top easily. > > Andy > You are subscribed as nmleeds@mindspring.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 00:27:52 2008 From: Fred Katz To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 23:27:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 300ZX burnout 300ZX Turbo burnout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Eimrv7yRQ Anyone have videos of a roadster doing a burnout like this? I haven't tried to get mine to sit still like this Z in this video. Wow! Fred - So.SF ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 06:51:32 2008 From: Phill Brook To: Fred Katz Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:50:22 +1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: 300ZX burnout I don't have it on video but I do have this still of my Roadster: http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x107/Banzai_Elise/Web%20Pix/? action=view¤t=Datto1024.jpg Pic is from warming the tyres for a Hillclimb in 2004. Phill B On 07/08/2008, at 4:27 PM, Fred Katz wrote: > 300ZX Turbo burnout > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Eimrv7yRQ > > Anyone have videos of a roadster doing a burnout like this? I haven't > tried to get mine to sit still like this Z in this video. Wow! > > Fred - So.SF ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 07:55:01 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Phill Brook" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:55:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: 300ZX burnout there's a 50th anniversary 300ZX turbo available local, minor nose damage but completely driveable, not original # engine but rebuilt recently, like 110k miles on the car. can be had for $2500, let me know if you want me to check into it for you. not advertised, had an oil change and the service guy told me his friend had it... took a look last night, probably worth the money. no rust, seats split some, clean dash, 5spd. T Tops. let me know, he's unavailable from now until about the 16th so wouldn't be able to check into it until then. I doubt he'll advertise it in the meantime. contact me offline. bought a replacement Diesel truck for towning this morning, turned out the seller is good friends with someone I bought an orange California 1600 from once upon a time... small world, isn't it?... Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phill Brook" To: "Fred Katz" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: 300ZX burnout >I don't have it on video but I do have this still of my Roadster: > http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x107/Banzai_Elise/Web%20Pix/? > action=view¤t=Datto1024.jpg > > Pic is from warming the tyres for a Hillclimb in 2004. > > Phill B > > On 07/08/2008, at 4:27 PM, Fred Katz wrote: > >> 300ZX Turbo burnout >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Eimrv7yRQ >> >> Anyone have videos of a roadster doing a burnout like this? I haven't >> tried to get mine to sit still like this Z in this video. Wow! >> >> Fred - So.SF > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as chalsted@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 10:43:49 2008 From: "Don Boyd" To: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:42:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gordon Glasgow ,CRS ?? And other subjects(roadsters!) Hi Gordon. Joan and I missed you guys at the Pacific Race Way historics in July. I don't read every list, so I'm sure I just missed it. CRS can only mean "Chronic ROADSTER Syndrome", right? Joan and I are getting ready to head down to the Monterey historics on Sunday. For the first time in years, I think 1997, we will not be driving Joan's little red roadster. Last year, she(the roadster, you guys,not my wife!) saw many many of those "other" beauties, and I think maybe she got a little uptight about it. She started marking her territory about the time we went to the Baja Cantina and parked next to at least a dozen Toyota 2000gts. She KNEW in previous years she would be the ONLY pretty Asian car in Monterey....She was used to getting lots of attention! The misbehavior got serious, and despite my planning, I've not had time to correct it. Engine out, new rear seal..... So we will take my new smart car. It will still be lots of fun. It's a hoot to drive. So if you see a yellow/black smart with Washington plates, listers, know we are roadster friendly, and wish she was with us. Don Boyd Joan Ikoma ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 11:27:21 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:30:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday in Shed, Oregon. Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland. The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around 4 PM. I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30. If anyone would like to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to phone@datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone. Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very good day. More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events: http://www.nowroc.org/events Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 14:19:46 2008 From: "Kevin McDonald" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:19:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday I'm Sorry, You can't combine BBQ and Wine Tasting. That's just wrong... Kevin in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday > Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This > Saturday > in Shed, Oregon. > > Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland. > > The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around > 4 > PM. > > I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30. If anyone would > like > to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to > phone@datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone. > > Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very > good day. > > More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events: > > http://www.nowroc.org/events > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ktmaustin@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 15:02:55 2008 From: "Matt Jacquet" To: "Kevin McDonald" , "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:07:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday but BBQ and sling'n cow pies is Tradition, don't forget the 12er of Shiner & some wetnaps! Matt in California but don't hold that against me.. ;) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kevin McDonald Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:20 PM To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday I'm Sorry, You can't combine BBQ and Wine Tasting. That's just wrong... Kevin in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday > Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This > Saturday > in Shed, Oregon. > > Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland. > > The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around > 4 > PM. > > I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30. If anyone would > like > to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to > phone@datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone. > > Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very > good day. > > More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events: > > http://www.nowroc.org/events > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ktmaustin@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 15:11:55 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Kevin McDonald'" , Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:11:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday What, you got something against a pot of baked beans and a box of red wine? (:-) Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- I'm Sorry, You can't combine BBQ and Wine Tasting. That's just wrong... Kevin in Texas ----- Original Message ----- > Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This > Saturday > in Shed, Oregon. > > Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland. > > The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around > 4 > PM. > > I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30. If anyone would > like > to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to > phone@datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone. > > Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very > good day. > > More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events: > > http://www.nowroc.org/events > > Tom ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 15:21:11 2008 From: Bill Cole To: Matt Jacquet Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:18:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday I'm bringing the Mesquite flavored Cheese Whiz...LOL...Bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 15:29:37 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:29:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL Yeeehaw! Linda ? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 16:58:33 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:58:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday Date, time, and will you pick me up at the airport! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704@netscape.net Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:29 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL Yeeehaw! Linda ? You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 17:37:55 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'Kevin McDonald'" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:37:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday The "secret ingredient" in Dad's BBQ was a bottle of Ripple. :-) Matt in TN -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:11 PM To: 'Kevin McDonald'; 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Reminder: Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This Saturday What, you got something against a pot of baked beans and a box of red wine? (:-) Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- I'm Sorry, You can't combine BBQ and Wine Tasting. That's just wrong... Kevin in Texas ----- Original Message ----- > Bill and Karen Neal are hosting a Fun Run / BBQ & Wine Tasting This > Saturday > in Shed, Oregon. > > Shed is near Corvallis, and about an hour and a half South of Portland. > > The fun run starts around 10:30 AM and the BBQ/Wine tasting will be around > 4 > PM. > > I am planning to leave Portland on I-205 around 8:30. If anyone would > like > to arrange a meeting place for a caravan send me a note here, or to > phone@datsun2000.com, where I will receive the message on my cell phone. > > Mr. Hyde and I are looking forward meeting new friends and having a very > good day. > > More information is posted on the NOWROC web site Calendar of Events: > > http://www.nowroc.org/events > > Tom You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 18:01:15 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:01:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] SEATS a little OT Well maybe more than a little Can anyone give me as many of the dimmensions as thet can get off some 240Z seats. I am doing a Saab Sonett. The seats are shot and no kits are made. Custom is big bucks. The 240 Z seats look the same and you can get all leather kits for about $400. It would be a grand to do the sonett seats and the cloth center would still not be correct. Hieght,width,hieght off the floor and thickness would help. Thanks, Dave ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 19:46:36 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:46:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] fuel issues i am using an electric fuel pump in my early 67 1600. it failed. in the troubleshooting process i substituted another pump, which i believe, but cannot guarantee to be about the same pressure. besides the fact that the engine coughs, sputters, and jerks violently, fuel comes out of the vents on the fuel bowls. could i have some sort of clog in the carbs? it coughed, sputtered, and jerked violently before the pump went out. i just set the valves. some valves seemed to have no gap at all. i don't think i can get it to run long enough to really set the timing. on the dizzy there is a little gage with A on one side and R on the other. its about in the middle. I played with this to no effect. before that it ran beautifully . . . ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 20:40:06 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:40:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] All Nissan Show, North Vancouver, BC ?? Anyone have a date for this show in North Vancouver, BC. I've got to get it marked down before I forget about it till it's too late!! Thanks Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 21:06:39 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:06:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] All Nissan Show, North Vancouver, BC ?? September 13-14, 2008 - Nissan Autocross and Show n Shine Vancouver BC, Canada Sat 13: Autocross at Skytrain in Surrey Sun 14: Car show at Waterfront Park in North Vancouver http://www.bczregistry.com Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Daryl Smith" > Anyone have a date for this show in North Vancouver, BC. > I've got to get it marked down before I forget about it till it's too late!! > > Thanks > Daryl > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 21:25:18 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:25:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] fuel issues i'll get a different pump and let you know what happens. thanks! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 21:27:42 2008 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Oliver Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] fuel issues Are you using an adjustable pressure regulator? This may be your problem, the pressure from the new pump might be too high. vince --- On Thu, 8/7/08, Oliver wrote: > From: Oliver > Subject: [Roadsters] fuel issues > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 8:46 PM > i am using an electric fuel pump in my early 67 1600. it > failed. > > in the troubleshooting process i substituted another pump, > which i believe, > but cannot guarantee to be about the same pressure. > > besides the fact that the engine coughs, sputters, and > jerks violently, fuel > comes out of the vents on the fuel bowls. > > could i have some sort of clog in the carbs? > > it coughed, sputtered, and jerked violently before the pump > went out. > > i just set the valves. some valves seemed to have no gap > at all. > > i don't think i can get it to run long enough to really > set the timing. on > the dizzy there is a little gage with A on one side and R > on the other. its > about in the middle. I played with this to no effect. > > before that it ran beautifully . . . > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 21:41:02 2008 From: "stan" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:41:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping jack tac Hello all, I seem to have a tac that jumps all over the place from low idle to about 2500 RPM. It just bounces up and down. Once I rev it up past 2500-3000 it smoothens out and gives me an accurate reading. I have a 69-1600. Is this normal? If not, what could possibly be the cause(s)? I would appreciate any help. Cheers! Stan Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver), BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 21:53:00 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "stan" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:53:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Jumping jack tac Stan, My guess is binding in the tach cable. It doesn't have to be much -- just enough to interfere with smooth movement at lower rpm. Take the cable out of the car, withdraw the cable from the sheath (being careful to note the location and position of any seals, and so forth), withdraw the cable from the sheath, and lubricate with WD-40. (Yes, I know there has been some controversy about WD-40 on the list, but it worked for me.) Work the cable back and forth to distribute lubricant, and re-install. If there are any kinks in the sheath, of course, replace the entire cable assembly. If that doesn't work, the only other alternative I know is to have the tach itself overhauled. But, correcting cable problems solved similar issues with both my tach and speedo. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "stan" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:41 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Jumping jack tac > Hello all, > I seem to have a tac that jumps all over the place from low idle to > about 2500 RPM. It just bounces up and down. > Once I rev it up past 2500-3000 it smoothens out and gives me an > accurate reading. > > I have a 69-1600. Is this normal? If not, what could possibly be the > cause(s)? > > I would appreciate any help. > Cheers! > > Stan > Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver), BC > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 04:07:30 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 06:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] WD40 Alternative - Product endorsement Hi All, I've seen the posts about WD recently. I thought I'd throw this out there. There is a product called Jig-a-loo. It's a spray silicone lubricant. This stuff is amazing!!! It's super slippery, won't gum up, and can also be used as a waterproofing spray. I love it. I'm on my 3rd can and will never use any of the cans of WD I own, ever again. It can be found at places like Pep Boys, Lowes, Walmart, etc. Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 07:09:10 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: "Matthew A. Smith" , Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 06:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] WD40 Alternative - Product endorsement Any silicone-based lubricant is better than WD-40 for long-term lubrication - like for a tach cable. They stay slippery and don't dry out to leave a gummy film. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA "Matthew A. Smith" wrote: Hi All, I've seen the posts about WD recently. I thought I'd throw this out there. There is a product called Jig-a-loo. It's a spray silicone lubricant. This stuff is amazing!!! It's super slippery, won't gum up, and can also be used as a waterproofing spray. I love it. I'm on my 3rd can and will never use any of the cans of WD I own, ever again. It can be found at places like Pep Boys, Lowes, Walmart, etc. Matt Smith You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 08:10:56 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Matthew A. Smith" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:10:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] WD40 Alternative - Product endorsement Jig-a-loo is what I use, I like it. Also as a good penetrating solution I like to use PB Blast. On 8/8/08, Matthew A. Smith wrote: > > Hi All, > > I've seen the posts about WD recently. I thought I'd throw this out there. > There is a product called Jig-a-loo. It's a spray silicone lubricant. This > stuff is amazing!!! It's super slippery, won't gum up, and can also be used > as a waterproofing spray. I love it. I'm on my 3rd can and will never use > any of the cans of WD I own, ever again. It can be found at places like Pep > Boys, Lowes, Walmart, etc. > > Matt Smith > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 09:02:43 2008 From: 12061997@comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (datsun list datsun) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:02:57 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] paint Hi List, does anyone know the color of the light yellow almost a butter -scotch that was on the 1600's? thanks bob b 67-1600 muncie,in ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 10:23:32 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:26:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Yellow paint code Kinda like this? Yellow - paint code 665 Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:03 AM To: datsun list datsun Subject: [Roadsters] paint Hi List, does anyone know the color of the light yellow almost a butter -scotch that was on the 1600's? thanks bob b 67-1600 muncie,in ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 10:26:56 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:26:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Silicone spray (was: WD40 Alternative) > Any silicone-based lubricant is better than WD-40 for long-term lubrication.. One cautionary note: Keep it away from modern car engines. There are numerous reports (just google 'silicone +"oxygen sensor"') that silicone will poison oxygen sensors. A spray or two under the hood could lead to a 'check engine' failure on a modern engine. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 12:13:29 2008 From: vulforge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:04:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL Yeeehaw! Linda If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up at the airport and put you up for the night! Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 12:18:48 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:22:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Uh-oh....sounds like a BBQ throwdown to me; Kansas City style vs Texas style. Anyone from North Carolina? Pete "I saw this on the Food Network" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of vulforge@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:04 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL Yeeehaw! Linda If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up at the airport and put you up for the night! Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 12:59:54 2008 From: 12061997@comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) To: vulforge@aol.com Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:00:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ I'm with you Russell! I'm retired from NS RR and use to run from Moberly to NKC and lived in KC for a while......Take em to Bryant's or Bates or 20 other restaurants and let them match those. I love Texas and just had a couple of BBQ meals around Austin last month and they were great but not Bryant's...( I do understand Austin is not TEXAS much anymore)bob ballinger 67-1600 Muncie,IN -------------- Original message -------------- From: vulforge@aol.com > Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL > Yeeehaw! > Linda > > If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas > City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up at > the airport and put you up for the night! > > > Russell Criswell > Vulcan's Forge > 3936 Broadway > Kansas City, MO > 64111 > > 816-931-6303 > 816-931-9378 fax > 877-531-1046 toll-free > www.vulcans-forge.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 12061997@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 13:36:01 2008 From: Richard Bush To: "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997@comcast.net>, Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:34:49 +0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ If you are in Austin, check out Salt Lick and Busters - both worth a visit On 8/8/08 11:00 PM, "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997@comcast.net> wrote: > I'm with you Russell! I'm retired from NS RR and use to run from Moberly to > NKC and lived in KC for a while......Take em to Bryant's or Bates or 20 other > restaurants and let them match those. I love Texas and just had a couple of > BBQ meals around Austin last month and they were great but not Bryant's...( I > do understand Austin is not TEXAS much anymore)bob ballinger 67-1600 Muncie,IN > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: vulforge@aol.com > >> Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL >> Yeeehaw! >> Linda >> >> If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas >> City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up >> at >> the airport and put you up for the night! >> >> >> Russell Criswell >> Vulcan's Forge >> 3936 Broadway >> Kansas City, MO >> 64111 >> >> 816-931-6303 >> 816-931-9378 fax >> 877-531-1046 toll-free >> www.vulcans-forge.com >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 12061997@comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rabush2000@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- R A Bush P O Box 500003 Dubai, UAE Home tel: 971 4 344 0631 Cell: 971 50 456 4357 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 15:13:32 2008 From: conner_a@comcast.net To: Richard Bush , "Bob Ballinger, Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:11:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Plus The County Line (ribs) and Stubbs (pulled pork sandwich). -------------- Original message -------------- From: Richard Bush > If you are in Austin, check out Salt Lick and Busters - both worth a visit > > > On 8/8/08 11:00 PM, "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > I'm with you Russell! I'm retired from NS RR and use to run from Moberly to > > NKC and lived in KC for a while......Take em to Bryant's or Bates or 20 other > > restaurants and let them match those. I love Texas and just had a couple of > > BBQ meals around Austin last month and they were great but not Bryant's...( I > > do understand Austin is not TEXAS much anymore)bob ballinger 67-1600 Muncie,IN > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: vulforge@aol.com > > > >> Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL > >> Yeeehaw! > >> Linda > >> > >> If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas > >> City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up > >> at > >> the airport and put you up for the night! > >> > >> > >> Russell Criswell > >> Vulcan's Forge > >> 3936 Broadway > >> Kansas City, MO > >> 64111 > >> > >> 816-931-6303 > >> 816-931-9378 fax > >> 877-531-1046 toll-free > >> www.vulcans-forge.com > >> ________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as 12061997@comcast.net > >> > >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as rabush2000@hotmail.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > -- > R A Bush > P O Box 500003 > Dubai, UAE > Home tel: 971 4 344 0631 > Cell: 971 50 456 4357 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as conner_a@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 15:38:27 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:36:12 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor I know itbs not a Datsun, but I doubt there is another bike like this! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT00088.jpg] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 15:43:18 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:43:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Texas, Kansas, Carolinas! Only one way to settle this. Everybody go out and buy the BBQ of your choice and send it to me. I'll sample everything and report back. Paul Never met a BBQ I didn't lick my fingers after! Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 15:45:25 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Tim'" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:45:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor Need a place to post this photo so anyone interested can see it. Definitely a one-of-a-kind bike! Paul -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland@charter.net] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:42 PM To: Paul Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor you can't do attachment. They get removed. -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: ============= I know itbs not a Datsun, but I doubt there is another bike like this! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT00088.jpg] You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 16:05:00 2008 From: Tim To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:04:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor If no one else will, I can now that we have the Midwest Roadster Roadtrippers site set up. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: ============= Need a place to post this photo so anyone interested can see it. Definitely a one-of-a-kind bike! Paul -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland@charter.net] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:42 PM To: Paul Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor you can't do attachment. They get removed. -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: ============= I know itbs not a Datsun, but I doubt there is another bike like this! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT00088.jpg] You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 16:19:11 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:18:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Testing should be gender-balanced so here you go: 1 800- GoFedEX Linda -----Original Message----- From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> To: 'datsun-roadsters' Sent: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 2:43 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Texas, Kansas, Carolinas! Only one way to settle this. Everybody go out and buy the BBQ of your choice and send it to me. I'll sample everything and report back. Paul Never met a BBQ I didn't lick my fingers after! Ohio ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 17:12:57 2008 From: Jim Anable To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:12:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Can you help diagnose a brake problem? I brought my '70 2000 in to the brake shop because the parking brake would no longer hold if I applied in on a hill (and I've got a gnarly one between office and home). Shop says I need rear brakes. Fine. They complete the job and say that they did a weld on the brake cable (?). I pick the car up, and it seems to drive okay until I try to use the parking brake on a hill. It wouldn't hold, and there's also a rhythmic scrape from the rear right drum. Owner says they may need to tack a rod on to brace whatever weld they did. I take it back for round two. They can't figure it out. Gotta leave it for a day. I call the next day, they say "all done, just needed adjustment." On the way home... You guessed it! I *gingerly* apply the brake on a slight incline. It does NOT hold. There was never a "give" or a sign that any weld or repair gave way. IMMEDIATELY after attempting to set the brake, the rhythmic scraping returns! Any clues? My brake shop doesn't seem to have one. Now I'm without my car for the weekend. Thanks in advance, Jim (who quit messing with brakes years ago, and has forgotten what little he knew back then) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 17:23:16 2008 From: Bill Oakes To: "davesmbox@aol.com" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:22:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SEATS a little OT Well maybe more than a little A great substitute for the Z has always been Miata seats, about the same size and sooooo much more comfortable. I can check the sizes early next week if you don't hear by then -bill On Aug 7, 2008, at 7:01 PM, davesmbox@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone give me as many of the dimmensions as thet can get off > some 240Z seats. I am doing a Saab Sonett. The seats are shot and no > kits are made. Custom is big bucks. The 240 Z seats look the same > and you can get all leather kits for about $400. It would be a grand > to do the sonett seats and the cloth center would still not be > correct. > Hieght,width,hieght off the floor and thickness would help. > Thanks, > Dave > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 17:31:41 2008 From: Herb Petty To: "Datsun List." Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes Ref Screwed up rear brakes. I'm afraid , with out looking, That I don't understand the weld job? However, if new rear shoes were installed & adjusted properly, this creats an automatic adjustment for the E-brake. I believe properly adjusted rear brakes will allow the E-brake handle to rise 3-4 clicks on the E-brake ratchet. I would think a decent brake shop could see this. After installing new shoes, The Nissan manual says to tighten each side ( brake shoes ) until snug. Then back off 3 clicks on the adjuster. This also gives the correct setting for the E-brake. Hope this helps. My 1966, will hold on any hill if the tyres have traction ! Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 18:52:45 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997@comcast.net>, "datsun list Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:52:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] paint Bob, The Rallye website has all the paint codes. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997@comcast.net> To: "datsun list datsun" Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: [Roadsters] paint > Hi List, does anyone know the color of the light yellow almost a > butter -scotch that was on the 1600's? thanks bob b 67-1600 muncie,in > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 19:42:46 2008 From: "dave" To: , Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:39:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Wouldn't it be great, We pick a date, Don't tell Russell, and 45 people show up, looking for food and a place to stay!:) Best BBQ I've had so far was Carey, North Carolina. Now if we are talking Brazillian BBQ, you need to come up to New Jersey. Directions are easy, drive north on I-95, when you smell pollution and toxic waste, turn left:) Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: vulforge@aol.com [mailto:vulforge@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:04 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL Yeeehaw! Linda If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up at the airport and put you up for the night! Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 20:20:20 2008 From: "Kevin McDonald" To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:20:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Looks like I started a major off-topic thread. Apologies to the list admin. As long as were at it... What is BarBQ in your area? In Texas it is anything that can fit on your grill. Any kind of ribs, brisket, chicken, sausage, and if your a real Texan wild game that you killed with your own intensely cool weapons. (The meat is on the grill - now you seize the moment to show your buddies the latest rifle mods..) Veggies are fine - load up in tin foil with butter and your favorite seasonings. I've heard that in the SEC BarBQ may have to be pork. In Texas were an open minded state. If you can kill it you can grill it. Gas is for pretenders. Charcoal has some respect. Real BarBQers use wood of course. Beans are best with ham hocks. Ribs take 6-8 hours at 175-225 degrees. Brisket up to 12 hours. A real BarBQer can drink heavily and still wake up at 4AM to load and monitor the grill. A major plus is a Diesel truck with a custom made trailer with a rough hewn cast iron pit in the shape of your favorite BIG12 logo. The Salt Lick is a favorite place. Basically a set of old farm buildings with all you can eat pricing. The county or area were it is located is dry so you have to bring your own alcohol (Oh darn). I've seen many coolers of beer and many bottles of brown whisky looking stuff there. But I've never seen any wine... Kevin ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 20:46:14 2008 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: dave , vulforge@aol.com, Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ You got a real mean in you there, boy. ;-) Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: dave To: vulforge@aol.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Cc: Dave Brisco Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 8:39:57 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Wouldn't it be great, We pick a date, Don't tell Russell, and 45 people show up, looking for food and a place to stay!:) Best BBQ I've had so far was Carey, North Carolina. Now if we are talking Brazillian BBQ, you need to come up to New Jersey. Directions are easy, drive north on I-95, when you smell pollution and toxic waste, turn left:) Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: vulforge@aol.com [mailto:vulforge@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:04 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL Yeeehaw! Linda If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up at the airport and put you up for the night! Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 20:59:54 2008 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Kevin McDonald , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ There's a place in Owensboro, Kentucky which claims to have the best BBQ in the world. It's a buffet, and they do have variety. First time I ever had mutton. Actually pretty good while hot, but not something I'd try on my own. I have had BBQ in a wide range of locales, but my favorites are Dozier's in Fulshear, Texas and Churchill's in Fulton, Missouri. (Fulton is where Winston Churchill made his "Iron Curtain" speech, for those not old enough to remember.) Dozier's is widely known for it's pecan smoked everything, but the bacon is the best. Churchill's primarily does ribs, and the owner does a batch each day. When they're gone, they're gone. I do brisket on the smoker, and it does take 10 hours. So, if you're going to be in the Chicago area, let me know. (I'm just around the corner in Northwest Indiana.) Kids are grown, so we have two spare bedrooms plus the pull-out in the family room. Reasonably complete set of tools and a few spares. Gary SPL311-05917 w/U20 SRL311-00428 ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin McDonald To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 9:20:14 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Looks like I started a major off-topic thread. Apologies to the list admin. As long as were at it... What is BarBQ in your area? In Texas it is anything that can fit on your grill. Any kind of ribs, brisket, chicken, sausage, and if your a real Texan wild game that you killed with your own intensely cool weapons. (The meat is on the grill - now you seize the moment to show your buddies the latest rifle mods..) Veggies are fine - load up in tin foil with butter and your favorite seasonings. I've heard that in the SEC BarBQ may have to be pork. In Texas were an open minded state. If you can kill it you can grill it. Gas is for pretenders. Charcoal has some respect. Real BarBQers use wood of course. Beans are best with ham hocks. Ribs take 6-8 hours at 175-225 degrees. Brisket up to 12 hours. A real BarBQer can drink heavily and still wake up at 4AM to load and monitor the grill. A major plus is a Diesel truck with a custom made trailer with a rough hewn cast iron pit in the shape of your favorite BIG12 logo. The Salt Lick is a favorite place. Basically a set of old farm buildings with all you can eat pricing. The county or area were it is located is dry so you have to bring your own alcohol (Oh darn). I've seen many coolers of beer and many bottles of brown whisky looking stuff there. But I've never seen any wine... Kevin You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 21:05:11 2008 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Herb Petty" , "Datsun List." Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:04:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brakes Herb, Are you sure they mounted the braks to the backing plate correctly??? Here is a picture of what you should see. I thought I had a better one, but apparently not on the web. http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/brake_adjuster/loaded_backing_plate-500.jpg Welding the e-brake???? I would suggest you take a serious look at what they are trying to do yourself. The e-brake is a breeze if the cables have not broken. And did they clean up the adjusters?? Maybe they can't adjust the brakes because the adjusters won't move. There is a pictorial on the tech page of datsun2000.com showing how to take them apart and clean them up. Not a big job, but it sure makes a difference when you try to adjust the brakes. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://wwww.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Herb Petty Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:32 PM To: Datsun List. Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes Ref Screwed up rear brakes. I'm afraid , with out looking, That I don't understand the weld job? However, if new rear shoes were installed & adjusted properly, this creats an automatic adjustment for the E-brake. I believe properly adjusted rear brakes will allow the E-brake handle to rise 3-4 clicks on the E-brake ratchet. I would think a decent brake shop could see this. After installing new shoes, The Nissan manual says to tighten each side ( brake shoes ) until snug. Then back off 3 clicks on the adjuster. This also gives the correct setting for the E-brake. Hope this helps. My 1966, will hold on any hill if the tyres have traction ! Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 21:47:08 2008 From: Herb Petty To: "Datsun List." Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Brakes Tom, All of your points are 100% correct. My info was for some one who had the actual problem, on a 1970 2.L Hopefully your info will set him in the right direction. The rear brakes on these little hot rods, should be a no brainer for a Professional Shop !! Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 23:27:07 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 00:27:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ in the south bbq is a noun in the north bbq is a verb ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 08:21:22 2008 From: DickSchnei@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:21:34 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Can you help diagnose a brake problem? I just bought a 1969 2000 a few weeks ago and I have been lurking here since then. I do not have any help for you on this, but have a very similar problem. :-( My roadster has no parking brake function at all. It turns out that the previous owner had replaced the rear brakes with 240Z brakes, and now the parts that the parking brake cable connects to are gone. I have found places that sell rear brake drums, etc. but have had no luck in finding the parts I need. There must be some type of lever that attaches the cables to the rear cylinder parts. Do any of you know of a source for Datsun rear brake parts other than the typical brake kits? I suspect I need something for a 240Z Datsun. I bought a new 1970 2000 roadster in Okinawa while in the US Air Force and brought it back with me. I drove that car for 15 years before it got totaled when parked in front of my house by a hit and run driver. I have regretted not fixing that car for 23 years and now am like a kid again with this "new" car. I used the parking brake, back then, a lot and it is a problem for me now that this car has no parking brake. Hopefully, someone will have the answer for both of us. Thanks, Dick Schneiders In a message dated 8/8/2008 6:13:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jim@seattle-attorney.com writes: I brought my '70 2000 in to the brake shop because the parking brake would no longer hold if I applied in on a hill (and I've got a gnarly one between office and home). Shop says I need rear brakes. Fine. They complete the job and say that they did a weld on the brake cable (?). I pick the car up, and it seems to drive okay until I try to use the parking brake on a hill. It wouldn't hold, and there's also a rhythmic scrape from the rear right drum. Owner says they may need to tack a rod on to brace whatever weld they did. I take it back for round two. They can't figure it out. Gotta leave it for a day. I call the next day, they say "all done, just needed adjustment." On the way home... You guessed it! I *gingerly* apply the brake on a slight incline. It does NOT hold. There was never a "give" or a sign that any weld or repair gave way. IMMEDIATELY after attempting to set the brake, the rhythmic scraping returns! Any clues? My brake shop doesn't seem to have one. Now I'm without my car for the weekend. Thanks in advance, Jim (who quit messing with brakes years ago, and has forgotten what little he knew back then) **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 12:07:47 2008 From: 12061997@comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (datsun list datsun) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:07:45 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] paint Hi List, Off to the body shop for paint finally. Need to pick out a color for the 67 and wanted Spanish Red. I think that is what my 67 had when it was new. How do I get this color mix for my body shop? Any suggestions...thanks, bob ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 13:56:19 2008 From: Herb Petty To: "Datsun List." Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Repairs Dick, If it were me, I'd certainly consider putting the rear brakes back to stock. When installed properly, they work just fine. You could consider some of the many vendors, ie Stan Chernoff ( 310-320-4554 ) or Ross Mullen, at Sports Imports ( 604-538-5615 ) Mike Young, at Datsun Sports,( 707-928-4029 ) also is very helpful. You may only need a little brake hardware, & some correct shoes. Please consider checking the whole brake system. These cars are old, & you might find that alittle maintenance is due. You'll be happy that you did, & have many pleasent miles. Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 14:48:46 2008 From: DickSchnei@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:48:41 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Repairs Herb, I appreciate the suggestion, but my frugal nature enters in here. The brakes are nearly new, both the front rotors and the rear drums, and work very well right now. This was verified both from a visual check with the wheels off and some simulated panic stops. I have some other items that are more pressing, like a new top. If I could get away with simply adding the correct arms/levers it would probably fit in with my budget a bit better. Why do roadster owners fit 240z brakes on these cars, anyway? Do they stop the car better or are they less expensive? As I understand it, some work needs to be done to accomplish this. I will consider going back to stock, but I will need to determine what hardware is needed. Thanks, Dick Schneiders In a message dated 8/9/2008 2:57:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, haabu@sbcglobal.net writes: Dick, If it were me, I'd certainly consider putting the rear brakes back to stock. When installed properly, they work just fine. You could consider some of the many vendors, ie Stan Chernoff ( 310-320-4554 ) or Ross Mullen, at Sports Imports ( 604-538-5615 ) Mike Young, at Datsun Sports,( 707-928-4029 ) also is very helpful. You may only need a little brake hardware, & some correct shoes. Please consider checking the whole brake system. These cars are old, & you might find that alittle maintenance is due. You'll be happy that you did, & have many pleasent miles. Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. You are subscribed as dickschnei@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 18:43:29 2008 From: "Graeme" To: , Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:13:25 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Repairs "Why do roadster owners fit 240z brakes on these cars, anyway? Do they stop the car better or are they less expensive? Dick Schneiders" Hi Dick, probably a desperate attempt to get the brakes working again without doing a little searching for the correct parts??? Anyhoo, I have a BUCKET of 240/260Z rear brake parts with those levers. If you wish, I can send you the bits for shipping $ only. It might be a gamble as to whether they fix the problem but you won't know until you try them. P.S. it was I who answered your post on the 311s.org site ;) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 18:59:58 2008 From: Pat To: Richard Bush Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:59:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] BBQ Lockhart, Texas is just 30 minutes South of Austin and has been certified as the BBQ capitol of Texas. Seriously, this town of 12,000 has 4 really great BBQ joints, and many others also. On the, food channel, I think, there was a BBQ tour of the US. They visited Bryant's, and at least one other in the city. They visited 3 of the best in Lockhart, not even mentioning the one I like best! Come on down and let's have a BBQ crawl! Peace, Pat Lockhart, Tx. Thusly spake Richard Bush: > If you are in Austin, check out Salt Lick and Busters - both worth a visit > > > On 8/8/08 11:00 PM, "Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana" <12061997@comcast.net> > wrote: > > >> I'm with you Russell! I'm retired from NS RR and use to run from Moberly to >> NKC and lived in KC for a while......Take em to Bryant's or Bates or 20 other >> restaurants and let them match those. I love Texas and just had a couple of >> BBQ meals around Austin last month and they were great but not Bryant's...( I >> do understand Austin is not TEXAS much anymore)bob ballinger 67-1600 Muncie,IN >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: vulforge@aol.com >> >> >>> Maybe the Texan should throw a BBQ and show everyone how it's done. LOL >>> Yeeehaw! >>> Linda >>> >>> If y'all want to see how it's done, I will happily host a BBQ tour of Kansas >>> City; the home of the finest BBQ on the planet.? And yes, I will pick you up >>> at >>> the airport and put you up for the night! >>> >>> >>> Russell Criswell >>> Vulcan's Forge >>> 3936 Broadway >>> Kansas City, MO >>> 64111 >>> >>> 816-931-6303 >>> 816-931-9378 fax >>> 877-531-1046 toll-free >>> www.vulcans-forge.com >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as 12061997@comcast.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >>> >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as rabush2000@hotmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 22:02:41 2008 From: Joseph Jedwabny To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:02:03 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals Hello, I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help. Joe ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 22:54:48 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Pete Peters" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:51:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] All Nissan Show, North Vancouver, BC ?? Thanks Pete! Anyone else on the list going? Autocross at the Skytrain station in Surrey ought to be interesting. Better keep a close eye on your car in that neighborhood! Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] All Nissan Show, North Vancouver, BC ?? > September 13-14, 2008 - Nissan Autocross and Show n Shine > Vancouver BC, Canada > Sat 13: Autocross at Skytrain in Surrey > Sun 14: Car show at Waterfront Park in North Vancouver > http://www.bczregistry.com > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Daryl Smith" >> Anyone have a date for this show in North Vancouver, BC. >> I've got to get it marked down before I forget about it till it's too >> late!! >> >> Thanks >> Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 09:17:35 2008 From: To: Joseph Jedwabny Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:14:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals at one of the transportation outfits, they removed the decals on trucks and trailers with a 3M wheel inserted in a drill. I know that this sounds weird, but check with company that leases trailers for big trucks. > I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help. > > Joe > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikef@carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 10:35:41 2008 From: "Kerry and Kae Zariwny" To: "Joseph Jedwabny" , Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:30:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals I do not know how many decals you are talking about but I have had good luck with this stuff getting decals off cars. Not aggressive at all so it is safe on paint. http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+maintenance/restoration/adhesive+remover%2C+8+ounces.do?search=basic&keyword=adhesive&sortby=newArrivals&page=1 There is also a spray version. Kerry Z 1968 1600 Portland, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Jedwabny" To: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals > Hello, > > I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on > it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it > is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help. > > Joe > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zariwny100@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 11:41:22 2008 From: "James Fogg" To: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals If it's a vinyl bumper-sticker type of decal heat works like a charm. Something hotter than a hair dryer. I've used torches and heat guns. Acetone often works too. I can't tell you how the paint will behave with acetone, so test it. > I do not know how many decals you are talking about but I have had good > luck > with this stuff getting decals off cars. Not aggressive at all so it is > safe > on paint. > > http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+maintenance/restoration/adhesive +r > emover%2C+8+ounces.do?search=basic&keyword=adhesive&sortby=newArrivals&p ag > e=1 > > There is also a spray version. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 12:08:06 2008 From: Kerry Dehmel To: Datsun List Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Test Checking to see if new registration works. Had to change address. former email kdrapidprint@psnw.com Thanks Kerry Dehmel Fresno, CA 1976.5 Datsun Roadster -- 1600 Blue 1967.5 Datsun Roadster -- 1600 Emerald green 2006 Corvette Coupe-- Montery red ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 13:58:45 2008 From: "stan" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:58:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts Hello all, first off I'd like to thank Gary and Greg for helping me out with my tachometer issue. I pulled the tach cable and lubed it up as per their recommendations. It seems to be working better now but still not 100%. I discovered during this process that the straighter the cable is, the less it tends to jump at lower rpm's. Almost there. Thanks guys! I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what products to use to clean off overspray on rubber parts. My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I can't seem to get it off. It's not a heavy paint, but a mist. Unfortunately it's red and not black :-( Somewhere out there I thought there was a coating that you can put overtop of tires and other rubbers which restores the color (almost like a black coating). Does anyone have any tips? If so I'd greatly appreciate any advice. Cheers! Stan from Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver) 1969 - 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 16:30:28 2008 From: Tim To: stan , Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:30:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts Steve Harvey told me of a product that works for this but I do not remember what it is. He is out of town right now and thus away from a computer but if he doesn't respond to you (or the list) directly, let me know and I will check with him. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- stan wrote: ============= Hello all, first off I'd like to thank Gary and Greg for helping me out with my tachometer issue. I pulled the tach cable and lubed it up as per their recommendations. It seems to be working better now but still not 100%. I discovered during this process that the straighter the cable is, the less it tends to jump at lower rpm's. Almost there. Thanks guys! I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what products to use to clean off overspray on rubber parts. My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I can't seem to get it off. It's not a heavy paint, but a mist. Unfortunately it's red and not black :-( Somewhere out there I thought there was a coating that you can put overtop of tires and other rubbers which restores the color (almost like a black coating). Does anyone have any tips? If so I'd greatly appreciate any advice. Cheers! Stan from Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver) 1969 - 1600 You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 17:31:04 2008 From: Pat To: Joseph Jedwabny Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:30:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals Joe, You don't state what material the graphics are on, aluminum, steel, painted or powder coat. Use a heat gun to soften the graphic, then slowly peel it off. If residue remains, use goo-gone to get it off. Try a small spot to be sure it doesn't affect the finish underneath. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Joseph Jedwabny: > Hello, > > I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help. > > Joe > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1570 - Release Date: 7/24/2008 6:59 AM > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 20:31:52 2008 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts I just finished painting some wheels that have tires on them, and despite my attempts at masking them, there is silver overspray on the sidewalls. I am going to cover up the edges of the wheels, and expect that acetone (use it in a well ventilated area or outside) will take it off easily. Hope this helps, vince --- On Sun, 8/10/08, stan wrote: > From: stan > Subject: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 2:58 PM > Hello all, first off I'd like to thank Gary and Greg for > helping me out > with my tachometer issue. > I pulled the tach cable and lubed it up as per their > recommendations. > It seems to be working better now but still not 100%. > I discovered during this process that the straighter the > cable is, the > less it tends to jump at lower > rpm's. Almost there. Thanks guys! > > I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what > products to use to > clean off overspray on rubber parts. > My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I > can't seem to get > it off. It's not a heavy paint, but a mist. > Unfortunately it's red and not black :-( > > Somewhere out there I thought there was a coating that you > can put > overtop of tires and other rubbers which restores the > color (almost like a black coating). > > Does anyone have any tips? > > If so I'd greatly appreciate any advice. > > Cheers! > > Stan from Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver) > 1969 - 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 20:40:21 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA I have ridden rented motorcycles all over Alaska, the last time was 1200 miles in 40 hours, 250 on dirt roads. Made it up past the Arctic circle, but not enough time available to get all the way up to the Arctic Ocean, alas. I love the natural rides, and there is none better, although Washgton State is wonderful too. JimG NJ 2000 1969 --- On Fri, 8/1/08, D Riedel wrote: From: D Riedel Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great road trips, OH to VA To: "chalsted" Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 4:52 PM The Top of the World highway through Fairbanks is supposedly spectacular. I don't know about the condition of the road for a roadster, though. Did you pass through that way Craig, or did you take the more southerly route to Anchorage? On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:24 PM, chalsted wrote: > why not just do an Al-Can highway trip and ferry back down from Ak? was > dirt road the last time I did that trip. > Craig > Datsun Roadsters mostly... > http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 > > -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 20:43:26 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'stan'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:13:27 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts "I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what products to use to clean off overspray on rubber parts. My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I can't seem to get it off. It's not a heavy paint, but a mist. Unfortunately it's red and not black :-(" Hi Stan, Try rubbing the rubber with a rag damp with Automotive Paint Thinners. Keep it clear of the paintwork on the body. Might take a bit of rubbing to remove it completely. I think it is preferable to use a bit of elbow grease instead of an aggressive chemical which may attack the good paint. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 22:51:41 2008 From: "Bubba" To: , "Joseph Jedwabny" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:51:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals I've used these wheels and they work great! Depending on the size of the decal, it could take a while, but no damage to the paint at all. Check with places that sell graphics, they should know where to get one. Here's a pic of what it looks like. http://www.autodetailingsolutions.com/3M-decal-remover.htm Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Miss 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Joseph Jedwabny" Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: removing decals > at one of the transportation outfits, they removed the decals on trucks > and trailers with a 3M wheel inserted in a drill. I know that this sounds > weird, but check with company that leases trailers for big trucks. > > >> I have a utility trailer that has the former business owners graphic on >> it. Does anyone know the best way to remove the graphic? It looks like it >> is a glue on type of decal. Thanks for any help. >> >> Joe >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as mikef@carolina.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 23:44:24 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'stan'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:44:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] overspray AND removing decals Hi Stan, A light rubbing with a product called Goof-Off should do it (Wal-mart and many, many others). Google Goof-Off (it's made by Valspar). Try a terry cloth rag. Be careful with getting it on the paint you DON'T want removed, but it works well, as long as the rubber is in OK shape to begin with and won't crumble with minor scrubbing. It's not a "paint peeler" like Jasco, but it does have some nasty chemicals in it. I've used it to remove latex paint off of hardwood floors and had NO adverse effects, even with a fairly hard "scrubbing". We even used to remove carpet adhesive from the nap of carpet and not had any degradation of the carpet. If it's soft rubber parts, like spongy trunk lid rubber or the front bow gasket, a new gasket is maybe in order. Just sayin! After you're done, wipe well again with a damp (water) rag, to remove any residue. Let it dry and clean it up with a rubber conditioner. Since you need it to NOT be sticky, try (again :-) hehehe) a silicone lubricant like Jig-a-loo. The silicone should have no negative effect on the rubber, unlike some other dressings, or like a hardcore petroleum based product. For the decal removal...this also works well. If they're old, dried up vinyl decals, try to remove as much as you can by hand. Lift from the edge and pull. All I can tell ya there. Use the Goof-Off as you can and work it from the edges. The glue WILL dissolve, the paint will not (typically). As all disclaimers say, test on a small inconspicuous spot first!! Matt Smith If you need further, please check out a book called "How to clean (almost) anything". -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of stan Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:59 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] overspray on rubber parts Hello all, first off I'd like to thank Gary and Greg for helping me out with my tachometer issue. I pulled the tach cable and lubed it up as per their recommendations. It seems to be working better now but still not 100%. I discovered during this process that the straighter the cable is, the less it tends to jump at lower rpm's. Almost there. Thanks guys! I'm wondering if anyone out there has tips on what products to use to clean off overspray on rubber parts. My trunk gasket has 10 year old overspray on it and I can't seem to get it off. It's not a heavy paint, but a mist. Unfortunately it's red and not black :-( Somewhere out there I thought there was a coating that you can put overtop of tires and other rubbers which restores the color (almost like a black coating). Does anyone have any tips? If so I'd greatly appreciate any advice. Cheers! Stan from Coquitlam (just outside of Vancouver) 1969 - 1600 ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 07:57:57 2008 From: Bill Cole To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:55:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pre-BBQ Fun Run Here is a link to the album showing some shots taken on our Fun Run we took before the BBQ at Bill Neals in Oregon, The drive ended up being around 100 miles thru the back roads in the Mid-Willamette Valley, we stayed near the foothills of the Cascades which out here means corners. The fun run started out with 5 roadsters and ended with 7 and a dime. At the BBQ 10 Roadsters were parked on the lawn. We had a good assortment of cars, a stock 66 spl, 2-66 sr20de cars, a 67.5 sr20de, a 67 spl, a 68 spl, a 68 spl stroker, 3-69 srl u20 cars, We had a great time and a big thanks to Bill and Karen for hosting the event, hope to more of us there next year...Bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 07:59:04 2008 From: Bill Cole To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:57:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Missed the Link I forgot something.... http://good-times.webshots.com/album/565304753MZvCQC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 08:58:58 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:58:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Group, I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input along with an am/fm radio. Thanks Steve Milwaukee ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 09:36:49 2008 From: peter harrison To: Steve Harvey , Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:36:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Personally, I have found the AM/FM/IPOD to be the best solution. Put it in the glove compartment or there are some radios that will fit the console, depending upon year. Actually, I obtained an old console for my 1970, tarted it up with Eastwood crinkle paint and let the installer have at, cutting it to fit as needed. The PO installed a 10 changer in the boot and it took up space and of course you only have 10 cd's, which also means you have to have somewhere to store the others.FWIW Peter > From: stebharvey@ameritech.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:58:53 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question> > Group,> > > > I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.> Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?> I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input> along with an am/fm radio.> > > > Thanks> > > > Steve> > Milwaukee> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 10:01:02 2008 From: leehinger@verizon.net To: peter harrison Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:00:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question I am using this in my 70 240z with an IPOD - uses either mp3 player or memory stick. Adjustable knobs so no dash cutting. Lee Ehinger On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM, peter harrison wrote: > Personally, I have found the AM/FM/IPOD to be the best solution. Put > it in the glove compartment or there are some radios that will fit the console, depending upon year. Actually, I obtained an old console for my 1970, tarted it up with Eastwood crinkle paint and let the installer have at, cutting it to fit as needed. The PO installed a 10 changer in the boot and it took up space and of course you only have 10 cd's, which also means you have to have somewhere to store the others.FWIW Peter > From: stebharvey@ameritech.net B > > To: > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > B > > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:58:53 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question> > Group,> > > > I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster.> Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed?> I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input> along with an am/fm radio.> > > > Thanks> > > > Steve> > Milwaukee> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 10:06:57 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Steve Harvey , Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:06:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question FWIW, my favorite Roadster "stereo" (other than the stock Toshiba AM radio, of course) is a well tuned exhaust system. ;-) -Greg SRL31100494 On 8/11/08 7:58 AM, "Steve Harvey" wrote: > Group, > > > > I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. > Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? > I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input > along with an am/fm radio. > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 10:34:18 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Jim Anable Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:33:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Can you help diagnose a brake problem? > I *gingerly* apply the brake on a slight incline. It does NOT hold. > There was never a "give" or a sign that any weld or repair gave way. > IMMEDIATELY after attempting to set the brake, the rhythmic scraping > returns! The parking brake setup is really pretty simple. A cable, an adjuster, a pivot point and a couple of solid rods... Since you get the scraping upon application, I'm 'assuming' the linkages are all working. So here's some things that are potentials: First, I'm assuming the parts are correct. If the shoes are incorrect (Roadster shoes last I checked were NLA - hint: 510 shoes work), the pawl that mechanically applies them may not be properly aligned or even connected... The rear adjusters are manual - that is, no 'back up 20 times and the brakes auto-adjust'! This is a foreign concept to youngsters :-) The shoes MUST be properly adjusted for the parking brake to work! If they aren't the rear brakes aren't working, but you probably wouldn't notice 'cause the fronts do almost all the work anyway. So, make sure those shoes are properly adjusted in the first place (jack the rear end, in neutral, turn the wheel and have someone gently apply brakes. You'll see if and when the brakes activate). After the shoes are dialed in, the parking brake, if the pieces are all there and working, are an adjustment away. There's a turnbuckle down there. With the handle down, it gets tightened to just before it starts applying tension to the assembly. If you scrape after release, it sounds like you're missing the retract springs. There's one at each wheen cylinder, between a clamped-on hook on the activation rod and a hook on the brake backing plate. It pulls the activation rod towards the cylinder. If this spring is loose or missing the parking brake won't fully release. Truth be told, sounds like you need another brake shop to take a look. This system is simple, but historical. Old timers, or thoroughly trained youngsters, will have no problem understanding it. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 10:34:50 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:34:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] overspray AND removing decals SEM Solve http://www.vinylpro.com/product/3837 It's probably not safe for paints long term, but I've just wipe it off immediately and have not seen any discoloring of any paint. You'll still have to peel the sticker, but it will dissolve the adhesive. It also easily removes overspray before it has fully cured. Steve 70' 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 10:49:48 2008 From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'Steve Harvey'" , Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:49:53 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Does anyone have a source to convert a stock roadster radio with new digital guts? Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:59 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Group, I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input along with an am/fm radio. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 12:09:22 2008 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?marc barnes=20?= To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:08:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Automated Reply from marc barnes I will be out of the office starting Monday, August 11 and will return on Monday, August 25th. If you are in need of immediate assistance, please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. Thanks! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 12:13:45 2008 From: racery@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:13:58 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Removing paint from rubber It doesn't always work, but often a scotch- brite pad will remove a mist. The paint needs to be less flexible than the rubber for it to be effective... hth. Toby ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 13:03:07 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Steve Harvey'" , Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:03:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Steve, Sony has come out with the Xplod GTX- GT620 which incorporates iPod control. It also has a one CD capability. I have recently purchased a GTX-GT520 (because I like the blue lights!) It has RCA pre-amp outs and RCA component in. I have this attached to my Harmon Kardon Drive & Play. (iPod attachment). The HK provides it's own screen, which I have mounted on a spring loaded hinge under the dash, so I can flip it up and make it invisible to anyone walking by my open car. Another Lister has mounted the screen where the clock goes (late model) and it is a VERY cool looking install. My iPod and the HK control unit are mounted up under the dash on the firewall behind the glove box. My stereo is mounted up under the dash as well, but you have to lean over into the passenger seat to see it because it's up and back (again, so folk's can't see it). I'm using a Sony RM-X11M wired marine stereo controller. Once the pre-sets on the stereo are set, I don't have to see the face of the stereo to choose what I want to hear. I use a wired controller because Infrared won't work the way I have my setup (you need line of sight to the head unit from the controller). With the controller, I can choose my iPod or my FM (all I use). I can control the stereo with the Sony controller, and I can control the iPod with the HK controller. They are both mounted in the "well" in the trans tunnel where the cig lighter and ashtray go. I don't have a center console between the seats. These are both covered by a vinyl covered metal box I made that's about 1" x 4" x 7" and mounted on another spring loaded hinge. When parked, even with the top down, you'd never know I had 450 watts of stereo and an iPod in my car. Matt Smith (had way too much time on my hands last winter!) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:59 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Group, I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input along with an am/fm radio. Thanks Steve Milwaukee You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 16:12:42 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:12:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but Datsun related Bernie is a fellow crew member with Sloan Racing; twin Datsun 1600 roadsters. He has been with us for almost 8 years now. Next weekend he is having a fund raiser for Muscular Dystrophy, a disease that he has. He watched it kill his older brother and is now watching his younger brother with early symptoms. I'll be at Nelson Ledges working the booth, selling raffle tickets, and anything else I can do to support his efforts all weekend. Below is Bernie's letter asking for support. His address, email address and phone numbers are below. Stop out at the track if you can. Your donations will be appreciated. Thank you, Paul Kort Ohio Muscular Dystrophy Fund Raiser Dear Potential Sponsor, My name Bernard (Bernie) Schneider and I have Becker Muscular Dystrophy. I am writing you because I am doing a Fund Raiser for the Muscular Dystrophy Association at Nelson Ledges Road Course, on August 23-24, 2008, and would like your company or you to consider supporting my Fund Raiser, but first, let me tell you a little about myself. As I said before I have Becker Muscular Dystrophy. I was diagnosed with it in 1978. Over the years the disease has weakened the muscles in my legs to the point that I am not able to walk any more. I have to ride in a wheelchair or scooter all the time, but I do not let that keep me from doing things I like to do. One of the things I like is auto racing and working on cars. I am on several race teams pit-crews and also do woodworking. Last year I was named Mechanic of the Year in the Kryder Racing Series at the Nelson Ledges Race Course where we race and one of the drivers was Champion of their class (G- Production ) . Enough about me. Now let me tell you what I would like from you. As I stated earlier in my letter, I am doing a Fund Raiser for MDA and would like your help. I am asking for a donation of whatever you would like to donate (water, food, money, etc). The Fund Raiser will take place at the 24-hour auto race at Nelson Ledges Road Course on August 23-24, 2008. The race will start at 12:00 PM (Noon) Saturday and end 12:00 PM (Noon) Sunday afternoon. There will also be practice, qualifying, and a night practice on Friday. We will have a booth set up with a racecar in it, that you can have your picture taken in. We will also have a 50/50 drawing during the race, we may do laps around the race- course on, Friday night at 5:00 PM to 6:00 PM and Saturday at 9: 00 AM (Subject to change as time allows), in your own car and also we are asking each team to donate an amount of money per lap that they complete in the race. We are hoping each team will try to raise more money than the other, and have a race with in the race. I hope I can count on your support. You can contact me at (330) 484-3827 or cell (330) 412-1518 or E- mail ( unclbobo@msn.com ). Yours Truly, Bernard P. Schneider 4604 Ridge Ave SE Canton, Ohio 44707-1120 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 16:13:23 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Steve Harvey'" , Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:12:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip at about 4200 rpms! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters- Group, I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input along with an am/fm radio. Thanks Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 16:19:46 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, 'Steve Harvey' Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:19:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question When I ran with two glass packs two things always happened, car alarms went off and mothers and their kids got scared. Honest...it happened all the time. -Greg On 8/11/08 3:12 PM, "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip > at about 4200 rpms! > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters- > Group, > > I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. > Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? > I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input > along with an am/fm radio. > > Thanks > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 17:38:36 2008 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:38:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Fronted by the Solex chorus above 3000.... - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Paul wrote: > Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip >at about 4200 rpms! > >Paul >Ohio > >-----Original Message----- >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net >[mailto:datsun-roadsters- >Group, > >I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. >Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? >I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input >along with an am/fm radio. > > Thanks > >Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 18:11:27 2008 From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:11:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun sighting Hello Listers, I was working at the Breast Cancer 3-Day walk this weekend in Chicago helping walkers cross busy intersections, and saw a red high windshield roadster downtown on Sunday. I was the loud fool standing on the corner braving Chicago drivers armed only with an orange flag. Anybody on the list? Ken '67 1600 Janesville, WI ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 18:54:10 2008 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: "'Tim Waltz'" , "'Steve Harvey'" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:53:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question I talked to these guys a few years back, they said they could do it to my '68 radio, which is really stubby, but I never followed through. I think the cost was like $400 iirc http://www.radiosforoldcars.com/ Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Waltz Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:50 AM To: 'Steve Harvey'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Does anyone have a source to convert a stock roadster radio with new digital guts? Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:59 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question Group, I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input along with an am/fm radio. You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 19:21:49 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:21:47 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question ...and the problem was....???? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" > When I ran with two glass packs two things always happened, car alarms went > off and mothers and their kids got scared. Honest...it happened all the > time. > > -Greg > > > > On 8/11/08 3:12 PM, "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > > > Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip > > at about 4200 rpms! > > > > Paul > > Ohio > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters- > > Group, > > > > I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. > > Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? > > I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input > > along with an am/fm radio. > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 19:26:59 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:12:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 19:28:31 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:22:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Missed the Link saw those photos by the water. did someone think it was an amphicar meeting??? > http://good-times.webshots.com/album/565304753MZvCQC > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 19:33:47 2008 From: Dan Zubkoff To: Oliver , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? A 1991 Nissan Figaro. See James Doh's write up on roadster design elements: http://groups.msn.com/badroc/roadsterdesignelements.msnw Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX Oliver wrote: http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ You are subscribed as zubkoff@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 19:38:57 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Oliver'" , Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:38:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? I wanted to guess a Glas Goggomobil, but I'm not sure. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 19:55:23 2008 From: "robert k. smith" To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, 'Oliver' , Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:55:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? is that the car that sarah uses on the sarah conner cronicles(sp.?)? bob smith 69 srl311> From: 9laser3@bright.net> To: sumton@sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:38:11 -0400> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it???> > I wanted to guess a Glas Goggomobil, but I'm not sure.> > Paul> Ohio> > -----Original Message-----> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces> > http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/> ________________________________________> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Get more from your digital life. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 20:54:53 2008 From: "Morrison" To: , Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:58:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stereo/CD/I-POD Question No problems here - it was a blast, literally! ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:21:47 +0000 >...and the problem was....???? > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: "Gregory S. Morrison" >> When I ran with two glass packs two things always happened, car alarms went >> off and mothers and their kids got scared. Honest...it happened all the >> time. >> >> -Greg >> >> >> >> On 8/11/08 3:12 PM, "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: >> >> > Personally, I like the sound of a glass pack and the stock megaphone tip >> > at about 4200 rpms! >> > >> > Paul >> > Ohio >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net >> > [mailto:datsun-roadsters- >> > Group, >> > >> > I'm asking for input on what is the best system to install in my roadster. >> > Is a single cd player verses 6 disc type what most people have installed? >> > I've seen several types of units that provide one cd but have an I-pod input >> > along with an am/fm radio. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Steve >> > ________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > >> > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com >> > >> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> > >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ Sent via the ASISNA Mail Services. mail.gregorysmorrison.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 21:34:36 2008 From: "Eric Gillis" To: "Oliver" , Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:31:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? Figaro, figaro, figaro, figaro. (Sorry I was thinking of the Bugs Bunny cartoon with the opera singer) Nissan, JDM maybe only made a couple of years (~1999-2000?) I am sure wiki-pedia will have mucho more. Really cool fold down top similar to the ragtop sunroof of VW, great (truly, great) older car styling and visual cues. When we ran into one at Shasta this year, I couldn't get enough. Eric G ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us@autox.team.net on behalf of Oliver Sent: Mon 8/11/2008 6:12 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ You are subscribed as egillis@ceres.k12.ca.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 22:25:51 2008 From: VulForge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:26:51 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Stereo I went the low-buck route with a vintage cassette AM-FM. $15 at the swap-and-shop. Fits right in the stock console with no cutting, looks bone stock (and not worth stealing) but with a cassette adaptor plugged into the MP3 on my phone I have hundreds of tunes at hand. Spend your money on the best speakers you can afford. I do run a turbo muffler with the dual-tips, and have great fun setting off car alarms as I go by. It amuses me that those giant SUV's yelp in fear at my little car! Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1048 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 01:05:52 2008 From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:06:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Denver Area Second Set of Eyes b/f cross All, I'm about to set off on my cross-country (or 1/3 county - Denver - SF) drive. Very excited, but it occurs to me that I'm not a great mechanic, and I've done a lot of the work on my car. Although I've worked with people who are better than me it would be nice to meet up with someone who speaks roadster to do a final look over. This is probably a long shot, but is anybody around for a mini-meet, in the Boulder/Denver area this Wednesday. My '69 SU-U20, some mountains, and a modest amount of beer. Nathaniel Leeds 310-592-3353 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 11:52:03 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? This is a 91 Nissan Figaro. There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures of the '08 Shasta meet. You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/11/2008 6:12:44 PM, Oliver (sumton@sbcglobal.net) wrote: > http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 12:18:02 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:20:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor Boy, what a picture. I added it to the Other Stuff page on Datsun2000.com http://www.datsun2000.com/other_stuff/chopper/ Tom -----Original Message----- From: Paul [mailto:9laser3@bright.net] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:12 PM To: 'Tim'; 'Tom Hendricksen' Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor Never thought you forgot me. Just figured that life was giving you more to do! Tom, please let me know when the photo is posted and a link to it so I can let the list know. Thanks guys, Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland@charter.net] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:17 AM To: Tom Hendricksen Cc: 9laser3@bright.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor Hi Tom. Here is the link to the web site my wife set up for our Midwest Roadster Runs: http://thedatsunroadtrippers.shutterfly.com/ Please let me know if you are unable to view it so we can fix that. Also, can you host a pic and post the link please? I told Paul I would post it but am hoping you will. The picture caption was "what to do with an old airplane motor". I have cc'd Paul so he will know I didn't forget about him. Thanks! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Tom Hendricksen wrote: ============= Tim, What is the URL?? It sounds like I need to add it to the Links page on datsun2000.com Tom -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:05 PM To: Paul; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor If no one else will, I can now that we have the Midwest Roadster Roadtrippers site set up. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: ============= Need a place to post this photo so anyone interested can see it. Definitely a one-of-a-kind bike! Paul -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland@charter.net] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:42 PM To: Paul Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT; What To Do With Old Airplane Motor you can't do attachment. They get removed. -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: ============= I know itbs not a Datsun, but I doubt there is another bike like this! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ATT00088.jpg] You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 12:20:56 2008 From: matthew peterson To: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" , roadster Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter Problem Continued Well, I decided to take Greg's advice and at least see what I could get a rebuilt starter/solenoid for. I'm glad I did because I got one for $29! I was suprised it was so inexpensive. I think I paid more to get my old one "fixed" last time. I pulled the old one last night and put the new one on and it engaged just like it should. No more whirring and grinding. What a relief. Problems are never fun but I did learn something new throught this one. Thanks everyone for your input and help. Matt Peterson '68 1600 (L20b) Houston, MN ----- Original Message ---- From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: pete_303@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 3:16:30 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter Problem Continued Well, why not just go get a rebuilt starter????? Why do I say this? Cause last night I watched as a bad starter destroyed the teeth on the ring gear on a Ford Excusion... much more expensive and a thousand times more work to replace the ring gear than to replace or rebuild the starter... I mean, I understand wanting to understand how stuff works, but not at the risk of my car... Just my 2 cents... Greg Burrows -- matthew peterson wrote: Hi all, Thanks to everyone for all the responses. I've got a better understanding of how the bendix works now. Last night I took the starter off the engine and engaged it by jumping the two posts on the solenoid. The first few times I did it the gear never flung out. After 5-6 times of doing this it started to move and eventually it started to fling out right as I jumped the posts. So I put it back on and tried it and now it sounds like the bendix gear is touching the flywheel teeth then backing off. I hear a slight grinding/rubbing sound for a split second then it just whirs. So my question is, should the bendix gear be spinning full speed the whole time or should it speed up after it engages the flywheel? Mine starts spinning very fast before it flings out. Could this be the reason it's not engaging the flywheel teeth? It seems to me that if it's spinning that fast that it wouldn't have a chance to engage the flywheel and would just grind against the teeth then pull back. Any thoughts? Matt Peterson ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Make your vacation more memorable with a luxurious vacation rental. Click now! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 12:25:59 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:25:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? I didn't know the Figaro was a 91 vehicle, it looks like it would be a 63 or something. Very interesting that Nissan would produce a "classic" looking vehicle and yet not bring back the Roadster. Does the Figaro engine fit in the Roadster? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tom @ Datsun2000 To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net ; sumton@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? This is a 91 Nissan Figaro. There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures of the '08 Shasta meet. You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/11/2008 6:12:44 PM, Oliver (sumton@sbcglobal.net) wrote: > http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ > ________________________________________ You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 12:37:51 2008 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: , Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:38:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? The Figaro is a cool car. It has a 987 turbo motor - front drive. I wish Nissan would put it back into production and sell in the US. It would be a fun economical car - much better looking then the VW bug. All you want know and more.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704@netscape.net Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:25 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? I didn't know the Figaro was a 91 vehicle, it looks like it would be a 63 or something. Very interesting that Nissan would produce a "classic" looking vehicle and yet not bring back the Roadster. Does the Figaro engine fit in the Roadster? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tom @ Datsun2000 To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net ; sumton@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? This is a 91 Nissan Figaro. There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures of the '08 Shasta meet. You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 14:26:02 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:28:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] BBQ / Wine Tasting Pictures More pictures of the BBQ / Wine Tasting / Fun Run hosted by Bill and Karen Neal. http://www.nowroc.org/events/shed_08.htm This was a great day to enjoy roadsters. One exciting moment came when a dog sauntered (and never flinched) into the road as roasters whizzed by in front and behind at about 50 or so. I will long remember looking into my rear view mirror to see Michael Spreadbury with a big grin on his face and his hand high in the air after I missed the dog and he didn't have to worry about dodging whatever. Mr. Hyde decided to give me a couple of problems from bad threads on the alternator case, to tossing a smog plug from the head. The first was cured with a longer bolt and nut, the second sounded something akin to a jack hammer at work under the hood, and was corrected out of Bill Cole's spare parts bin. This same plug had come out a couple of years ago and I recognized the sound immediately. With only a couple of miles before the run ended I drove it on in. When I replaced the bolt with a correctly threaded part it was obvious that a PO had used very course thread bolts on threads that were much finer. Thanks to Bill all four holes are properly plugged now and the whistle is gone. It is amazing how much quieter the U20 is without the whistle. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org A good friend will come and bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE FRIEND will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn ... that was fun!" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 20:14:53 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:14:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? "Does the Figaro engine fit in the Roadster?" At 75 hp, why would you want to? It would take two of those to equal a good-running Solex U20. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704@netscape.net Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:25 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? I didn't know the Figaro was a 91 vehicle, it looks like it would be a 63 or something. Very interesting that Nissan would produce a "classic" looking vehicle and yet not bring back the Roadster. Does the Figaro engine fit in the Roadster? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tom @ Datsun2000 To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net ; sumton@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? This is a 91 Nissan Figaro. There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures of the '08 Shasta meet. You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/11/2008 6:12:44 PM, Oliver (sumton@sbcglobal.net) wrote: > http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ > ________________________________________ You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 21:04:01 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:03:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? 75 hp? Nissan's second dumb move. What were they thinking? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Glasgow To: ljordan704@netscape.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 7:14 pm Subject: RE: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? "Does the Figaro engine fit in the Roadster?" At 75 hp, why would you want to? It would take two of those to equal a good-running Solex U20. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704@netscape.net Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:25 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? I didn't know the Figaro was a 91 vehicle, it looks like it would be a 63 or something. Very interesting that Nissan would produce a "classic" looking vehicle and yet not bring back the Roadster. Does the Figaro engine fit in the Roadster? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tom @ Datsun2000 To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net ; sumton@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:52 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? This is a 91 Nissan Figaro. There are pictures of this car in both Alvin's pictures and my pictures of the '08 Shasta meet. You can view these pictures by going to the EVENTS page of www.datsun2000.com and scrolling down to the Shasta event information. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/11/2008 6:12:44 PM, Oliver (sumton@sbcglobal.net) wrote: > http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ > ________________________________________ You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 21:39:08 2008 From: Herb Petty To: "Datsun List." Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Figaro Re Figaro Don't sell the Figaro short folks. It has power everything, it even has a Turbo. ( Not toooo shaby. The owner Mr. Tadaoke Anzia Is a good friend of mine. Try it you might like it !! Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 22:20:37 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:20:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Lambo Roadster... (not a dime) Stay away kids! That roadster bites! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Cody Mould" > What the hell did they do to the bumpers! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: "Bluebirds" > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: Lambo Roadster... (not a dime) > > > > Yeah, but doesn't it look kewl when parked? > > > > Pete "what's next? gullwing doors?" > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: Wolf Dilworth > >> Thankfully that is not a dime in the background, it is prolly a 620 > >> or > >> some-such truck, the wheel has six lugs, thankfully. My condolences to > >> the > >> truck community among us. > >> > >> As for those F-ing doors, I hate those things from a practicality point. > >> The > >> damn door panel is right where you need to swing your head when exiting > >> the car, > >> so you have to do this funny twist, placing both legs perpendicular to > >> the car > >> before standing up... Duuuumb! > >> > >> Peace, Wolf > >> > >> > >> --- On Tue, 8/12/08, bre66@windstream.net wrote: > >> > >> From: bre66@windstream.net > >> Subject: Re: Lambo Roadster... > >> To: "Kelvin Dietz" , "Bluebird List" > >> > >> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 3:53 PM > >> > >> WoW. That's a Kool Kar, alright. > >> > >> Say, did you get a gander at what looks to be a red 510 just two cars > >> down > >> from it ... that has .. ( gads! ) ... louvers on the > >> fenders??! > >> > >> ... now .. That's a neat idea. > >> > >> Keith > >> > >> > > >> > From: Kelvin Dietz > >> > Date: 2008/08/12 Tue PM 05:37:35 CDT > >> > To: Bluebird List > >> > Subject: Lambo Roadster... > >> > > >> > It just ain't right. > >> > > >> > http://www.bleachgarage.com/images/event/bluelake08/bl100_7558.jpg > >> > > >> > All that work. All that skill. Shame it wasn't tempered with a bit of > >> > >> > taste... > >> > > >> > At least that's my take. I could be wrong. > >> > > >> > Wait.... No. Never mind. > >> > > >> > Kelvin ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 07:17:36 2008 From: "Matt Kall" To: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:20:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] still looking for a good 69 2000 grile I have a very good condition 1600 grill to swap for a 2000 for a 69. or buy the 2L grille outright and sell the 1600 grill on my own. let me know if you have one. Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 08:45:27 2008 From: "Walter Peterson" To: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:45:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Free (gently used) early 67 1600 rear brake drums, I just took the drums down to my parts house to have them measured. It seems the EOL Spec is 9.000" and these have .050" & .040" left on them. They look usable as is, no scoring at all. These became available after I upgraded to a pair of Cinder blocks and a chain; & then to a drag parachute which works much better at higher speeds. The bricks were problematic when they catch up to you or they change lanes when in operation. The related hardware includes levers & lots of little bolts, etc. I'll look around for the parking brake rods if you need them. Anyhow free parts, you pay shipping. Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 09:39:19 2008 From: "Kevin McDonald" To: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:38:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? The same engine family is used in the Nissan March: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Superturbo_R http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_MA_engine I saw some of these cars in Mazatlan Mexico a year ago. They looked way too small for the American market until... Kevin > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 12:40:19 2008 From: "Brucciani, Chris" To: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:39:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 Bluebird FS in Atlanta I have no info on this car but stumbled across in on Craigslist. 1967 Datsun Bluebird 411 4 door. Complete all original 77,000 miles. Not very must rust. Rare car. Good shape. Serious Inquiries only!!!! Best Offer http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/793716554.html Chris Brucciani 1973 240Z 1995 Miata -------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and confidential information and is intended only for the use of the individual and/or entity identified in the alias address of this message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby requested not to distribute or copy this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and delete the original message from your system. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 13:33:33 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:33:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Lambo Roadster... Well, I can't say that I am surprised, as this is all the rage, and done on all sorts of cars, whether tasteful or not. Pimped out purple /orange Dodge Neon with Lambo doors comes to mind. The thing is, looking at this roadster, if they welded the tops of the doors shut, why did they leave the wing windows on? To support those doors on a hinge like that must mean there is some sort of bracing in under the dash/cowl, so why not remove the wing windows as well. As someone said, getting in with these is smooth glide, but getting out, argghh. Would have made more sense to do suicide doors, (and remove the wing windows) if "sense" is applicable at all. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 18:07:59 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:07:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? Interesting. I remember someone on the list from Canada used a fusebox from a Micra when rewiring their roadster. I wonder why the March/Micra isn't in the US-market, especially now. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Kevin McDonald" > The same engine family is used in the Nissan March: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Superturbo_R > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_MA_engine > I saw some of these cars in Mazatlan Mexico a year ago. > They looked way too small for the American market until... > Kevin > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 19:25:05 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Brucciani, Chris'" , Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:24:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] ] 1967 Bluebird FS in Atlanta I asked about the car and got the reply below. Paul Ohio "1299cc 4 speed Some rust but not bad. Needs to be towed. I will be honest I am a little nego on this car and it needs to go. If you are serious I will get you a pic.' -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters- I have no info on this car but stumbled across in on Craigslist. 1967 Datsun Bluebird 411 4 door. Complete all original 77,000 miles. Not very must rust. Rare car. Good shape. Serious Inquiries only!!!! Best Offer http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/793716554.html Chris Brucciani ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 20:27:17 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Pete Peters" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:27:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? Probably doesn't meet US emissions or safety (crush, bumper height, ...) standards. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? > Interesting. I remember someone on the list from Canada used a fusebox > from a Micra when rewiring their roadster. > > I wonder why the March/Micra isn't in the US-market, especially now. > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Kevin McDonald" >> The same engine family is used in the Nissan March: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Superturbo_R >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_MA_engine >> I saw some of these cars in Mazatlan Mexico a year ago. >> They looked way too small for the American market until... >> Kevin >> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 21:26:21 2008 From: Herb Petty To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1991 Figaro Hi Folks, The 1991 Figaro ( Small Japanese Car ) that was at Mt Shasta this past July, belongs to my friend Mr. Tadaoki Anzai. He lives in Victoria B.C. Vancouver Island. The vehicle was imported in I think Febuary of this year. My friend told me the vehicle, had to pass ( 2 ) stringent inspections, plus alot of paper work. This car is small, but it's loaded , it even has a Turbo. Leather interior, & full power, including windows. & auto trans. Mr Anzai is a true diehard Nissan / Datsun fan. He also has a 1969 2.Ll solex in Victoria ( it's beautiful ) it also has a new set of Everwing fog lamps. ( I'm jealous ) Have a nice drive in this beautiful weather, Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 22:22:52 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:22:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? Details....mere details.... Pete "darn that NHSTA!" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > Probably doesn't meet US emissions or safety (crush, bumper height, ...) > standards. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT, but what car is it??? > > > > Interesting. I remember someone on the list from Canada used a fusebox > > from a Micra when rewiring their roadster. > > > > I wonder why the March/Micra isn't in the US-market, especially now. > > > > Pete > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "Kevin McDonald" > >> The same engine family is used in the Nissan March: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Superturbo_R > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_MA_engine > >> I saw some of these cars in Mazatlan Mexico a year ago. > >> They looked way too small for the American market until... > >> Kevin > >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro > >> ________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > >> > >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 14:12:49 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:12:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 1600 FS inOhio http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/776541676.html Not mine (if it was, I won't be selling it!), and I have connection to the car or seller (Or at least I don't remember?) It may be an OROC car, but that was too many years ago for me to remember. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 14:17:36 2008 From: "Matt Jacquet" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:22:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SJ Ca sighting 8/13 630pm Red 70, 1600 nice original survivor public parking off Lincoln Ave in Willow Glen. Matt ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 15:28:58 2008 From: "Mark Antolik" To: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:27:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 69 1600 FS inOhio Hi Paul - That looks a lot! Like the one Brian had for sale....the 1600 with a 2L and the color is what I remember..... Mark Ohio (also) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+mantolik=oh.rr.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+mantolik=oh.rr.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:12 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] 69 1600 FS inOhio http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/776541676.html Not mine (if it was, I won't be selling it!), and I have connection to the car or seller (Or at least I don't remember?) It may be an OROC car, but that was too many years ago for me to remember. Paul Ohio You are subscribed as mantolik@oh.rr.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 20:04:04 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:04:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their roadster? I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which will not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there. Anyone? Gary Ault ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 22:35:33 2008 From: geegc@aol.com To: aultgc@att.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:35:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires I found that the bolt pattern is easy to match but that the size of the hole in most mini spares is too small for the front wheel. So if you get a mini that fits the rear and have a flat in the front you can switch the good rear tire to the front and use the mini on the rear. Gary C -----Original Message----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 7:04 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their roadster? I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which will not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there. Anyone? Gary Ault You are subscribed as geegc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 11:23:51 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:23:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires Hmmm, let me dig out my scratched and skipping (i.e. "broken") record again... :-) > ..switch the good rear tire to the front and use the mini on the rear. If you drive any distance with mismatched rear tire diameters, you risk permanent damage to the differential. So to be safe, a mini has to still be the same diameter as the other tires you're using. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 12:42:10 2008 From: "Bill Oakes" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:42:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop Hi gang, i'm having to go through a lot of my old Z car parts since losing a storage garage, kind of a nice "cleansing" experience, i have to admit. One of the things taking up a lot of space, still, is the hardtop that came with my '68 2000, which still hasn't hit the road. When done (yes, it will be done someday) this will be a weekend machine, rarely taken out in bad weather, mostly because there just won't be a need. The question is; is it worth keeping the hardtop? Will I ever really use it? I'm thinking not. I have pix of it at: http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterHardtop So, if I don't keep it, how much is it worth? Anyone in the mid-west (i'm in Chicago's north suburbs) interested?? thanks -Bill Oakes Libertyville, IL '68 2000 Solex ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 13:12:22 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:12:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Mini Spare center hole Even the crudest of machine shops should have chucks large enough to mount a 14" wheel and turn the center hole out to the necessary diameter, to maintain the proper wheel sizing. 1st gen 300z's had the same 4 bolt pattern, but so did Euro-styled Ford Mustangs/Fairmount/Toyota Corollas (called an AE86) correct? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 13:18:50 2008 From: "Robbie Harrison" To: , "Gary and Cindy Ault" Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:18:45 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything extra in the tire well in the extra space? Robbie 68 2000 -------Original Message------- From: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their roadster? I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which will not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there. Anyone? Gary Ault [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of cat_side_en.gif] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 13:22:51 2008 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:22:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires They are quite a bit lighter as well as somewhat less bulky. Robbie Harrison wrote: >What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything extra >in the tire well in the extra space? > >Robbie >68 2000 > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Gary and Cindy Ault >Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires > >Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their >roadster? >I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which >will >not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there. > >Anyone? > >Gary Ault ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 14:30:30 2008 From: To: Robbie Harrison , Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:30:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires Lets you get more wine in the trunk. Charlie B. >From: Robbie Harrison >Date: 2008/08/15 Fri PM 02:18:45 CDT >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Gary and Cindy Ault >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires >What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything extra >in the tire well in the extra space? > >Robbie >68 2000 > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Gary and Cindy Ault >Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires > >Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their >roadster? >I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which >will >not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there. > >Anyone? > >Gary Ault ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 15:48:01 2008 From: To: "Robbie Harrison" , Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:48:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires It can make the difference between getting bag in for a trip. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbie Harrison" To: ; "Gary and Cindy Ault" Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires > What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything > extra > in the tire well in the extra space? > > Robbie > 68 2000 > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Gary and Cindy Ault > Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires > > Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their > roadster? > I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which > will > not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there. > > Anyone? > > Gary Ault > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > cat_side_en.gif] > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as reblues@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 23:06:13 2008 From: philip erickson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357 If you drive any distance with mismatched rear tire diameters, you risk permanent damage to the differential. So to be safe, a mini has to still be the same diameter as the other tires you're using. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA Sorry John, But that is an OLD WIFE's TALE if you have an OPEN rear axle. 50-100 miles would be not problem, and that's all you should be driving on a mini spare. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 08:10:17 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: fj20spl311@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:10:30 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357 I've had several rear diffs apart. The pin that the differential gears run on has no bearings. It is a steel pin going through the steel gears. During straight driving this is not a problem as these only turn when you are turning. When the tire size is mismatched these gears turn all the time. They simply were not designed for this kind of service. Will it toast them in a couple miles? Most likely not. 50 to 100 miles? Don't know. I think the answer is that the diff wasn't designed for this type of service and it is best to avoid it if possible. The front on the other hand has totally independent bearings and can run forever with different size tires. Check on the availability of diff bits and make your own choice. keith In a message dated 8/15/2008 10:07:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, fj20spl311@yahoo.com writes: If you drive any distance with mismatched rear tire diameters, you risk permanent damage to the differential. So to be safe, a mini has to still be the same diameter as the other tires you're using. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA Sorry John, But that is an OLD WIFE's TALE if you have an OPEN rear axle. 50-100 miles would be not problem, and that's all you should be driving on a mini spare. You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 10:52:02 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: RWM@RWMann.com Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:50:34 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires First, I have never had a flat in the Roadster (knock on wood). Second, while I know it won't fix every problem (major cut on the sidewall for example) and it does cause problems inside the tire (can unbalance the tire, not an issue if you clean it out really well after use) I just carry a can of fix-o-flat. I have handed mine out to other people on the side of the road 3 different times, and used mine once on a daily driver... no problems, and it got me to a shop where the tire could be repaired (no problem there either). It's cheap, takes little room, and will handle the problem 9 times out of ten. Greg Burrows -- "RWM (Out of the Office)" wrote: They are quite a bit lighter as well as somewhat less bulky. Robbie Harrison wrote: >What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything extra >in the tire well in the extra space? > >Robbie >68 2000 > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Gary and Cindy Ault >Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires > >Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their >roadster? >I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which >will >not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there. > >Anyone? > >Gary Ault You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Free quote and debt consolidation information. 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I understand that the collapsable shaft is to give in on impact so I wondered if by modifying my steering shaft that the rear shortest of the 3 sections would by any chance fall out while driving. Since I won't have that direct straight connection I'm afraid I may have to reinforce the rear section as well to for/aft play. I'm not privy as to how the lower shaft mates with the column behind the firewall. Are these shafts press fit to some degree? I would apreciate any input. Tom ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 11:30:08 2008 From: "Bill Oakes" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:30:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part" Hi gang, between taking too long to get back started on the re-assembly of my '68 2000 Solex, and, well, not documenting everything well enough, I've ended up with the dreaded extra-part-on re-assembly, I'm afraid. I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built heater core and then on the bench I still saw this: http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart help? -bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 11:46:58 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:49:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part" Bill, This looks like the rectangular ring that holds the molded rubber tubes that run from the heater box to the windshield vents in the dash for your defrosters. The partial rubber part you are showing is part of the now gone rubber tubes. The rubber part is sandwiched between the ring and the heater box. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/16/2008 10:30:20 AM, Bill Oakes (boakes@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi gang, > > between taking too long to get back started on the re-assembly of my > '68 2000 Solex, and, well, not documenting everything well enough, > I've > ended up with the dreaded extra-part-on re-assembly, I'm afraid. > > I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built > heater core and then on the bench I still saw this: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart > > help? > > -bill > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 12:07:40 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: Bill Oakes Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part" > I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built > heater core and then on the bench I still saw this: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart The box itself is together. If I'm correct, that rectangle of metal clamps the air duct to the box. There's a largish Y-shaped rubbery part, some remnants of which seem to be in your picture, that ducts the air flow from the box to the defroster ducts in the dash. When you operate the defroster control, there's a flap that opens a hole in the box to allow air to flow into this duct and to the windshield. The flange on the rubber Y is the 'middle' of the sandwich of heaterbox-duct-metalplateyouhaveleftover. Four screws (IIRC) clamp it all together. I'm sure there's a diagram in the parts catalog. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 13:21:11 2008 From: "Bill Oakes" To: "John F Sandhoff" Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:21:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part" Yep, thanks to John and Tom, once I put the heater box in for a test fit it made more sense. Just got done gluing the dash cap onto the now empty dash - that's what comes next, putting that all back together. Once step at a time, one step at a time... On 8/16/08, John F Sandhoff wrote: > > > > I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built > > heater core and then on the bench I still saw this: > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart > > > > The box itself is together. > If I'm correct, that rectangle of metal clamps the air duct > to the box. There's a largish Y-shaped rubbery part, some > remnants of which seem to be in your picture, that ducts the > air flow from the box to the defroster ducts in the dash. > When you operate the defroster control, there's a flap that > opens a hole in the box to allow air to flow into this > duct and to the windshield. > > The flange on the rubber Y is the 'middle' of the sandwich > of heaterbox-duct-metalplateyouhaveleftover. Four screws > (IIRC) clamp it all together. > > I'm sure there's a diagram in the parts catalog. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 13:55:46 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:55:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Midwest Roadster Run We are planning to do another Midwest Roadster Run in October. We have decided on the weekend of October 10-12. We hope to see great fall colors and drive more of the fun roads in the bluffs in southwestern WI and Northwestern IL. Most of the weekend is up in the air and well depend on who can come. The only definite part of the trip is to stay in Savanna, Illinois on Saturday night. Depending on who can come, we may stay there on Friday night as well. if you can only come for part of the weekend, that is fine. As of now, Steve Harvey, myself and our wives are going for sure. We have one other "most likely attending" and a few maybes. If you can to attend, please let me or Steve know ASAP so we can plan the hotel booking situation as well as the roads we want to drive. The last run was great fun the next should be more fun! We had four Roadsters and hope to increase that count!! Hope to hear from a bunch of you soon!!! Call me if you want: 608-445-9072 is my cell phone. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 16:27:22 2008 From: "Bubba" To: , , Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:26:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357 If you have your rear tires inflated differently, the rolling diameter is different, and the spider gears will rotate. These spider gears are always partially immersed and/or passing through the 80-90 gear lube. even when they are not turning there is tremendous side pressure on them. Even when they are turning we are not talking hundreds or thousands of RPM, and they are tempered steel. They will hold up. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 2, Issue 357 > I've had several rear diffs apart. The pin that the differential gears run > on has no bearings. It is a steel pin going through the steel gears. > During > straight driving this is not a problem as these only turn when you are > turning. > When the tire size is mismatched these gears turn all the time. They > simply > were not designed for this kind of service. Will it toast them in a > couple > miles? Most likely not. 50 to 100 miles? Don't know. I think the answer > is that > the diff wasn't designed for this type of service and it is best to avoid > it > if possible. > > The front on the other hand has totally independent bearings and can run > forever with different size tires. > > Check on the availability of diff bits and make your own choice. > > keith > > > In a message dated 8/15/2008 10:07:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > fj20spl311@yahoo.com writes: > > If you drive any distance with mismatched rear tire diameters, you > risk permanent damage to the differential. So to be safe, a mini has > to still be the same diameter as the other tires you're using. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > > > Sorry John, > But that is an OLD WIFE's TALE if you have an OPEN rear axle. > > 50-100 miles would be not problem, and that's all you should be driving > on a > mini spare. > You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 > ) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 22:28:18 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:28:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires one advantage of keeping the standard tire - as I discovered on my x-country trip (via a tip from a fellow member) is that you can take a standard 5 gallon bucket, cut it to size - about 5-7 inches depending upon tire and put it under the spare. This provides space for a whole bunch of things, rags, spark plugs, gloves, flaresanything bendy or small. > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:30:25 -0500> From: vze2fhba@verizon.net> To: robbieharrison@comcast.net; aultgc@att.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires> > Lets you get more wine in the trunk.> Charlie B.> >From: Robbie Harrison > >Date: 2008/08/15 Fri PM 02:18:45 CDT> >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Gary and Cindy Ault > >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires> > >What's the advantage of the compact spare? Can you really fit anything extra> >in the tire well in the extra space?> >> >Robbie> >68 2000> >> >-------Original Message-------> >> >From: Gary and Cindy Ault> >Date: 8/14/2008 10:05:06 PM> >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> >Subject: [Roadsters] Compact Spare tires> >> >Has anyone recently purchased a compact spare tire for use on their> >roadster?> >I want to buy one for my car, but I want to make sure I get a wheel which> >will> >not interfere with the brake lines on the front, if needed there.> >> >Anyone?> >> >Gary Ault> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 22:32:59 2008 From: peter harrison To: Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:32:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hardtop FWIW Ok, I live in CA and thus for me a hardtop is peripheral. If you live in a climate where winter really hits and you still dirve the roadster, then putting it in on November (say) and removing it in April (say) makes sense. But if you are only a summer driver and rain is the only concern - get rid of it. Peter > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:42:22 -0500> From: boakes@gmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop> > Hi gang,> > i'm having to go through a lot of my old Z car parts since losing a> storage garage, kind of a nice "cleansing" experience, i have to> admit.> > One of the things taking up a lot of space, still, is the hardtop that> came with my '68 2000, which still hasn't hit the road.> > When done (yes, it will be done someday) this will be a weekend> machine, rarely taken out in bad weather, mostly because there just> won't be a need.> > The question is; is it worth keeping the hardtop? Will I ever really> use it? I'm thinking not.> > I have pix of it at:> http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterHardtop> > So, if I don't keep it, how much is it worth? Anyone in the mid-west> (i'm in Chicago's north suburbs) interested??> > thanks> -Bill Oakes> Libertyville, IL> '68 2000 Solex> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 07:57:49 2008 From: "Mike Faggart" To: boakes@gmail.com Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:58:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the dreaded "extra part" I agree with Tom, that is the part for the defroster boot. On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Bill Oakes wrote: > Hi gang, > > between taking too long to get back started on the re-assembly of my > '68 2000 Solex, and, well, not documenting everything well enough, > I've ended up with the dreaded extra-part-on re-assembly, I'm afraid. > > I put the heater box back together, or I thought, with the re-built > heater core and then on the bench I still saw this: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterMysteryPart > > help? > > -bill > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikefaggart@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Mike Faggart ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 08:11:04 2008 From: aiken1315@bellsouth.net To: peter harrison , Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:07:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hardtop My car is used as a daily driver and I put my hard top on in Dec/Jan and use it until spring. David -------------- Original message from peter harrison : -------------- > FWIW > Ok, I live in CA and thus for me a hardtop is peripheral. If you live in a > climate where winter really hits and you still dirve the roadster, then > putting it in on November (say) and removing it in April (say) makes sense. > But if you are only a summer driver and rain is the only concern - get rid of > it. > Peter > > > > > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:42:22 -0500> From: boakes@gmail.com> To: > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] hardtop> > Hi gang,> > > i'm having to go through a lot of my old Z car parts since losing a> storage > garage, kind of a nice "cleansing" experience, i have to> admit.> > One of the > things taking up a lot of space, still, is the hardtop that> came with my '68 > 2000, which still hasn't hit the road.> > When done (yes, it will be done > someday) this will be a weekend> machine, rarely taken out in bad weather, > mostly because there just> won't be a need.> > The question is; is it worth > keeping the hardtop? Will I ever really> use it? I'm thinking not.> > I have > pix of it at:> http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterHardtop> > So, if I > don't keep it, how much is it worth? Anyone in the mid-west> (i'm in Chicago's > north suburbs) interested??> > thanks> -Bill Oakes> Libertyville, IL> '68 2000 > Solex> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as > granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > > http://www.team.net/archive> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aiken1315@bellsouth.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 13:16:47 2008 From: Bill Schairer To: Datsun Roadster Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:17:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] brake light problem I need help with my right hand brake lights. I may be blind, but I cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams. That being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left turn signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn signal. Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the black/white and a green. With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and black/white is not. With right turn signal on the black/white gets juice. If I splice in juice to the black/white from the brake switch, I get all brake lights on right and left but then my right turn signal does not work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes to right and left. Left turn signal continues to work properly thru all. In current status, all lights work properly but the right brake lights. This is a 1970 1600. Can anyone help me out? Bill San Diego ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 13:44:45 2008 From: To: "Datsun Roadster" , "Bill Schairer" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:43:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake light problem Bill, this schematic helps. http://www.311s.org/PDFs/1969-70%20Datsun%20SP%20L_R%20Sports%20Wiring%20Schematic%20rev0.pdf If that doesn't work then go to the 311s.org pmwiki tech section and under electrical go to Schematics: Wiring Diagrams. The R/B wire is the brake/turn signal on the 69 & 70's. The G/W is the running lights. Black is ground. The R/B should be hot for either the brake or the turn signal. Bad grounding will cause odd things to happen. Also all of these wires pass through the emergency flasher switch. I've had a bad switch that cause weird things to happen. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Schairer" To: "Datsun Roadster" Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: [Roadsters] brake light problem >I need help with my right hand brake lights. I may be blind, but I > cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams. That > being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left turn > signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn signal. > Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the black/white > and a green. With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and black/white > is not. With right turn signal on the black/white gets juice. If I > splice in juice to the black/white from the brake switch, I get all > brake lights on right and left but then my right turn signal does not > work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes to right and left. > Left turn signal continues to work properly thru all. In current > status, all lights work properly but the right brake lights. This is a > 1970 1600. Can anyone help me out? > > Bill > San Diego > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as reblues@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 14:11:21 2008 From: Pat To: Bill Schairer Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:09:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake light problem Bill, Sounds like you have dirty contacts in the turn signal switch. If you can get it apart, clean and lube the contacts with silicone grease and give that a try. I can help you figure out the rest of it, given some time. On the drawing http://www.311s.org/tech/electrical/wiring/69-701600-2000reva.pdf I believe the brake light switch is the circle below where it says "Hazard Flasher" with the 2 green-yellow wires. This drawing is not complete in its information on the Hazard switch, so I will have to look at another drawing. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Bill Schairer: > I need help with my right hand brake lights. I may be blind, but I > cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams. That > being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left turn > signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn signal. > Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the black/white > and a green. With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and black/white > is not. With right turn signal on the black/white gets juice. If I > splice in juice to the black/white from the brake switch, I get all > brake lights on right and left but then my right turn signal does not > work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes to right and left. > Left turn signal continues to work properly thru all. In current > status, all lights work properly but the right brake lights. This is a > 1970 1600. Can anyone help me out? > > Bill > San Diego > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 14:44:48 2008 From: alvin gogineni To: , Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:40:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Monterey Histroics Pictures from the Monterey Historic races: http://rides.webshots.com/album/565513587lKYKZL We had 11 Datsuns/Nissans drive down together. John Morton led in his scarab on saturday, I took some videos and posted on youtube, check here: http://www.youtube.com/user/alvingogi enjoy!Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:12:20 -0700From: dc@classicracingphotos.comSubject: RE: Monterey HistroicsTo: alvingogi@hotmail.com Good for you! Wish I was there....maybe next year. Les drove up yesterday. Tell John you are his "official" photographer for this event . He is understand. Here are shots of him last weekend http://classicracingphotos.com/MontereyPreHistorics/ Look forward to seeing all your great photos. BTW, we are moving BACK to San Diego again, next week. Hopefully for good this time. Thanks, Dennisalvin gogineni wrote: Dennis I am going.I will try to take pics of John in both carsAlvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 Dennis Currington To: Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:25:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake light problem Thanks for all the suggestions and now I know where to find the brake switch on the diagrams. I now suspect the hazard switch. It flashes very slowly and if I put the brakes on it stops flashing and all the tail lights are lit. My son got cited for no rear brake light after getting pulled over for speeding so I now I have to get it fixed and inspected. I suppose I could try to fake out the officer by pulling the hazard switch as I put the brakes on but I would like to get them working right anyway. Bill San Diego On Aug 17, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Pat wrote: > Bill, > > Sounds like you have dirty contacts in the turn signal switch. If you > can get it apart, clean and lube the contacts with silicone grease and > give that a try. I can help you figure out the rest of it, given some > time. > > On the drawing > http://www.311s.org/tech/electrical/wiring/69-701600-2000reva.pdf I > believe the brake light switch is the circle below where it says > "Hazard Flasher" with the 2 green-yellow wires. This drawing is not > complete in its information on the Hazard switch, so I will have to > look at another drawing. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Bill Schairer: >> I need help with my right hand brake lights. I may be blind, but I >> cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams. >> That being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left >> turn signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn >> signal. Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the >> black/white and a green. With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and >> black/white is not. With right turn signal on the black/white gets >> juice. If I splice in juice to the black/white from the brake >> switch, I get all brake lights on right and left but then my right >> turn signal does not work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes >> to right and left. Left turn signal continues to work properly thru >> all. In current status, all lights work properly but the right brake >> lights. This is a 1970 1600. Can anyone help me out? >> >> Bill >> San Diego >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus >> Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM >> >> >> >> > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 22:13:50 2008 From: "dave" To: " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:09:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well sort of... I just got back home to New Jersey from picking up what I thought was my new 66 1600 from North Carolina. It was a LONG grueling drive. About halfway home, my Wife, Linda, asked where we were going to keep 2 Datsuns, I told her the 66 we just got would eventually replace my 69 2000, so after the 2000 was sold, it would be in the garage. She gave a rather strange look.thought for a moment, and then informed me that this was HER car, the 2000 was mine. I had not been aware of this part of the plan. I had sold all my "extra roadsters" in the last few weeks to make room for this one, planning on doing a full rebuild and making it the keeper, then sell my 2000, and get most of the money spent back.. This is apparently now NOT the plan. She was deciding on colors on the way home, turquoise is leading so far. Oh, and she wants my stroker motor too!! So I cleaned out the garage to make room for HER car to be inside. MY car is at my sister's house, 15 miles away in her garage, and will live OUTSIDE when it's at our house. This now explains the weatherproof car cover I got for my birthday last month. This plan has been in the works for a while. Three things come to mind 1. She should really learn to drive a stick. 2. I have to stop letting her hang around Mark Dent, I sense his evil influence in here somewhere. 3. I need to see if "SWMBO" is avail for a license plate. I feel SO violated.. Dave Brisco ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 22:34:21 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: "Datsun Roadster" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:35:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake light problem Bill, Pat is correct. The two green/yellow wires are connected to the brake switch on the brake pedal. I just peeled back some tape on one of my cars and took measurements on the wires. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat" To: "Bill Schairer" Cc: "Datsun Roadster" Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake light problem > Bill, > > Sounds like you have dirty contacts in the turn signal switch. If you > can get it apart, clean and lube the contacts with silicone grease and > give that a try. I can help you figure out the rest of it, given some > time. > > On the drawing > http://www.311s.org/tech/electrical/wiring/69-701600-2000reva.pdf I > believe the brake light switch is the circle below where it says "Hazard > Flasher" with the 2 green-yellow wires. This drawing is not complete in > its information on the Hazard switch, so I will have to look at another > drawing. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Bill Schairer: >> I need help with my right hand brake lights. I may be blind, but I >> cannot find the brake light switch on any of the wiring diagrams. That >> being said, I have a red/white wire for left brakes and left turn >> signal and a black/white wire for right brakes and right turn signal. >> Three wire plug from the firewall has the red/white, the black/white >> and a green. With brakes depressed, red/white is hot and black/white >> is not. With right turn signal on the black/white gets juice. If I >> splice in juice to the black/white from the brake switch, I get all >> brake lights on right and left but then my right turn signal does not >> work properly - it doesn't flash and juice goes to right and left. >> Left turn signal continues to work properly thru all. In current >> status, all lights work properly but the right brake lights. This is a >> 1970 1600. Can anyone help me out? >> >> Bill >> San Diego >> ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 23:08:07 2008 From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:07:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; now where do I set me SU's? All, First, I'd like to thank everyone for encouraging me to try the cross country trip. The roadster performed admirably, or that was after I cured some pinging with a generous treatment of octane boost, and a mysterious non-idle, no-start, with some new points in Ely, NV. (Next iron-bottom, I'm bringing a timing light and dwell meter) Now I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of more power. Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy messy affairs: the car smells like a refinery and backfires like Chinese new year until the engine gets well above normal operating temperature. Some of these problems might be other maintenance that I'll need to do after the long, heavy driving, but I'll get to that once I get the setting right. I had a decent scheme for the timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but I thought I'd ask the list where people set their sea-level SU's, timing, and what octane everyone likes. Here's some information: '69 2000, no air pump, SU's, w/ the Solex cam, headers with aggressive exhaust. Nathaniel Leeds ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 23:11:57 2008 From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:11:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's" Also, some time I'll need to post to the list and describe what happens when you brake a throttle return spring on a long open stretch of highway in the middle of Nevada. The short: you get where you were going a lot faster than you expected. N ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 23:45:42 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: dave Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] My wife is a roadsterholic (was: Stolen car...) Dave laments: > [she] informed me that this was HER car, the 2000 was mine. Then comments: > 1. She should really learn to drive a stick. And ends with: > I feel SO violated.. I've got news for you, Dave... I'm suspecting she plans on learning how to drive a stick... ... on YOUR car :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA p.s. Admit it. She's a keeper. And I don't mean the car :-) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 06:48:56 2008 From: Perry Smith To: Nathaniel Leeds , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's" Good excuse for the next time a cop pulls you over "Oh, I just KNEW my throttle return spring was broken..." (Next question, then "No I don't know, my speedomoter is broken - you know how these old cars are...) Perry '69 2000 ----- Original Message ---- From: Nathaniel Leeds To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:11:58 AM Subject: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's" Also, some time I'll need to post to the list and describe what happens when you brake a throttle return spring on a long open stretch of highway in the middle of Nevada. The short: you get where you were going a lot faster than you expected. N ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as tpsmithstl@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 07:01:08 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Perry Smith'" , "'Nathaniel Leeds'" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:00:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's" -----Original Message----- "No I don't know, my speedomoter is broken - you know how these old cars are...) -------------------------------- BTDT! Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 10:19:31 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:20:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; Granted, this is coming from the guy with his roadster on blocks since 2006, but... 1. Eliminate all points issues; dump the points dizzy and get an EI dizzy. Set it and forget it. If you feel the need, you can still carry a dwell meter, timing light, and spare points to help those less fortunate. 2. Ensure the valves are adjusted. 3. My understanding is that our beasties only like premium gas. 4. The No Frills Iron Bottom Tour is no more: Cheers. Pete "looking forward to long distance in the roadster some day" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:08 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; now where do I set me SU's? All, First, I'd like to thank everyone for encouraging me to try the cross country trip. The roadster performed admirably, or that was after I cured some pinging with a generous treatment of octane boost, and a mysterious non-idle, no-start, with some new points in Ely, NV. (Next iron-bottom, I'm bringing a timing light and dwell meter) Now I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of more power. Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy messy affairs: the car smells like a refinery and backfires like Chinese new year until the engine gets well above normal operating temperature. Some of these problems might be other maintenance that I'll need to do after the long, heavy driving, but I'll get to that once I get the setting right. I had a decent scheme for the timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but I thought I'd ask the list where people set their sea-level SU's, timing, and what octane everyone likes. Here's some information: '69 2000, no air pump, SU's, w/ the Solex cam, headers with aggressive exhaust. Nathaniel Leeds Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 10:30:03 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Nathaniel Leeds" , Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:32:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's" Breaking a throttle return spring is why I always carry (And Calspeed included in his things to carry list) a spare throttle spring or two in the glove box. I broke the rear spring on my first 2L in 1968 at around 80 MPH while the hand throttle was set. When I released the throttle nothing slowed down. Being dark it was a little difficult to figure out, but if you break a spring without a spare you can put the remaining spring on the rear SU and it will control both carburetors. The front spring only controls the front carb. This is has been my experience for U20 engines. I am not sure what happens on R16 engines. The next day I went into the Everett, WA Datsun dealer and purchased two sets of springs. One to put on the car, and the other to put in the glove box, where I think you will find at least one spring today. If you break the front spring you might not notice the problem.... Until you break the rear spring. It is not a bad idea to look at your springs when you are changing the oil, or have the hood open for almost any reason. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org - Home of the Emergency Road list -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:12 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] correction: "my SU's" Also, some time I'll need to post to the list and describe what happens when you brake a throttle return spring on a long open stretch of highway in the middle of Nevada. The short: you get where you were going a lot faster than you expected. N ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 10:33:21 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: nmleeds@mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:32:22 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; In a message dated 8/17/2008 10:08:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, nmleeds@mindspring.com writes: Now I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of more power. Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy messy affairs: the car smells like a refinery and backfires like Chinese new year until the engine gets well above normal operating temperature. Some of these problems might be other maintenance that I'll need to do after the long, heavy driving, but I'll get to that once I get the setting right. I had a decent scheme for the timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but I thought I'd ask the list where people set their sea-level SU's, timing, and what octane everyone likes. Start with double checking your timing and valve lash. Take a look at your plugs. Are they carboned up or really white? Good indication of rich or lean. Check my SU setup site. _Click here: Setting up and adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on the Datsun Roadster_ (http://www.311s.org/tech/engine/keithsus.html) Let us know how it goes. keith **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 10:42:30 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: Keith0alan@aol.com, nmleeds@mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:42:23 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; In a message dated 8/18/2008 9:33:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Keith0alan@aol.com writes: Now I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of more power. Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy messy affairs: the car smells like a refinery and backfires like Chinese new year until the engine gets well above normal operating temperature. Some of these problems might be other maintenance that I'll need to do after the long, heavy driving, but I'll get to that once I get the setting right. I had a decent scheme for the timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but I thought I'd ask the list where people set their sea-level SU's, timing, and what octane everyone likes. Start with double checking your timing and valve lash. Take a look at your plugs. Are they carboned up or really white? Good indication of rich or lean. Check my SU setup site. _Click here: Setting up and adjusting SU/Hitachi carbs on the Datsun Roadster_ (http://www.311s.org/tech/engine/keithsus.html) Let us know how it goes. keith or this link _http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/su-setup/su-setup.html_ (http://members.aol.com/roadsterranch/su-setup/su-setup.html) kw **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 10:47:57 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:50:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; Sad to say, the Iron Bottom has seen it's last run. There is another run coming up in Northern California called RUN FOREST RUN. I have links to that run on nowroc.org and datsun2000.com. It is not intended to replace the Iron Bottom, but people I have met from the area tell me it is likely to be a great multi-day outing with each day starting in Arcata and exploring a different part of the territory. Keith Williams has told me that the damper design of the SU carburetor is self compensating for altitude, which is one of the advantages of this carburetor design. I have never noticed any power differences due to mixture adjustment changes when going from 16' above sea level where I live to around 5000 feet. I would strongly suggest going with a breakerless ignition system. The best and most reliable is the updated dizzy Dave Brisco is offering, but there are others you can choose if you prefer. Make sure you have your timing adjusted correctly for your dizzy advance springs. A smog dizzy should be set for 0 degrees advance (more is hard on your upper chain - BTDT), and a pre-smog set of advance springs allows for a setting the timing up to -16 degrees BTDC. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Nathaniel Leeds Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:08 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 1,200 miles, 5,000 feet; now where do I set me SU's? All, First, I'd like to thank everyone for encouraging me to try the cross country trip. The roadster performed admirably, or that was after I cured some pinging with a generous treatment of octane boost, and a mysterious non-idle, no-start, with some new points in Ely, NV. (Next iron-bottom, I'm bringing a timing light and dwell meter) Now I'm finally at sea level. I'm giddy with the promise of more power. Unfortunately the first low altitude runs have been noisy messy affairs: the car smells like a refinery and backfires like Chinese new year until the engine gets well above normal operating temperature. Some of these problems might be other maintenance that I'll need to do after the long, heavy driving, but I'll get to that once I get the setting right. I had a decent scheme for the timing and carbs at 5000 feet, but I thought I'd ask the list where people set their sea-level SU's, timing, and what octane everyone likes. Here's some information: '69 2000, no air pump, SU's, w/ the Solex cam, headers with aggressive exhaust. Nathaniel Leeds ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 11:00:36 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:03:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well sort of... This is probably no help at all...... But if you look at Buzz Bowerman's wife's car you might notice the automatic tranny, saving your wife the inconvenience of her having to learn how to drive a stick. I have pictures of this car on the 2008 (and maybe 2007) Shasta pictures found on the EVENTS page of datsun2000.com. Click on TOM. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde (safe from "theft" - SHE wants a 710 wagon) Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/17/2008 9:09:55 PM, dave (daveandlindab@comcast.net) wrote: > I just got back home to New Jersey from picking up what I thought was my > new 66 1600 from North Carolina. It was a LONG grueling drive. About > halfway home, my Wife, Linda, asked where we were going to keep 2 > Datsuns, I told her the 66 we just got would eventually replace my 69 > 2000, so after the 2000 was sold, it would be in the garage. She gave a > rather strange look.thought for a moment, and then informed me that this > was HER car, the 2000 was mine. I had not been aware of this part of > the plan. I had sold all my "extra roadsters" in the last few weeks to > make room for this one, planning on doing a full rebuild and making it > the keeper, then sell my 2000, and get most of the money spent back.. > This is apparently now NOT the plan. > > > > She was deciding on colors on the way home, turquoise is leading so far. > Oh, and she wants my stroker motor too!! So I cleaned out the garage to > make room for HER car to be inside. MY car is at my > sister's house, 15 > miles away in her garage, and will live OUTSIDE when it's > at our house. > This now explains the weatherproof car cover I got for my birthday last > month. This plan has been in the work ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 11:41:47 2008 From: Gary McCormick To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well sort of... The only thing that could possibly be worse than putting Miata parts (seats) in a Datsun Roadster would be putting a slush box shift-for-me tranny in it - IMHO... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA "Tom @ Datsun2000" wrote: This is probably no help at all...... But if you look at Buzz Bowerman's wife's car you might notice the automatic tranny, saving your wife the inconvenience of her having to learn how to drive a stick. I have pictures of this car on the 2008 (and maybe 2007) Shasta pictures found on the EVENTS page of datsun2000.com. Click on TOM. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde (safe from "theft" - SHE wants a 710 wagon) Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/17/2008 9:09:55 PM, dave (daveandlindab@comcast.net) wrote: > I just got back home to New Jersey from picking up what I thought was my > new 66 1600 from North Carolina. It was a LONG grueling drive. About > halfway home, my Wife, Linda, asked where we were going to keep 2 > Datsuns, I told her the 66 we just got would eventually replace my 69 > 2000, so after the 2000 was sold, it would be in the garage. She gave a > rather strange look.thought for a moment, and then informed me that this > was HER car, the 2000 was mine. I had not been aware of this part of > the plan. I had sold all my "extra roadsters" in the last few weeks to > make room for this one, planning on doing a full rebuild and making it > the keeper, then sell my 2000, and get most of the money spent back.. > This is apparently now NOT the plan. > > > > She was deciding on colors on the way home, turquoise is leading so far. > Oh, and she wants my stroker motor too!! So I cleaned out the garage to > make room for HER car to be inside. MY car is at my > sister's house, 15 > miles away in her garage, and will live OUTSIDE when it's > at our house. > This now explains the weatherproof car cover I got for my birthday last > month. This plan has been in the work You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 15:32:47 2008 From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:22:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot? Still adjusting the car after the long road trip and I'm starting to wonder what's up with my points. So here's the problem -- above 4500 rpm's, under any load, I'm getting the chinese fireworks out of the back of the tailpipe. My thought: maybe I don't have enough dwell; not enough dwell => not enough magnetic field => weak spark. Right? So I go to check my dwell and it's a sorry 37 degrees. My attempts to bring it up to the 49-50 in spec. are rewarded with a car that doesn't start at all. Who says this means that my points are shot; or, more specifically, that my foot is so shot that the geometry can't both give me enough dwell, and enough separation for a really nice spark. I know this means that I should be going away from points and condensers and buy an electric system, but I'm a poor, out of work, attorney with student loans and an expensive dry cleaning bill who can't afford the upgrade just yet. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 SU's ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 15:53:40 2008 From: peter harrison To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:53:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well sort of... Gary I'm glad your opinion is 'humble'. My Miata seats were a great comfort to me on my x-country trip > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:41:43 -0700> From: gkmcc@sbcglobal.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stolen car, well sort of...> > The only thing that could possibly be worse than putting Miata parts (seats) in a Datsun Roadster would be putting a slush box shift-for-me tranny in it - IMHO...> > Gary McCormick> San Jose, CA> > "Tom @ Datsun2000" wrote: This is probably no help at all...... But if you look at Buzz Bowerman's> wife's car you might notice the automatic tranny, saving your wife the> inconvenience of her having to learn how to drive a stick.> > I have pictures of this car on the 2008 (and maybe 2007) Shasta pictures> found on the EVENTS page of datsun2000.com. Click on TOM.> > Tom> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde (safe from "theft" - SHE wants a 710 wagon)> Portland> http://www.datsun2000.com> http://www.nowroc.org> > > > > > > On 8/17/2008 9:09:55 PM, dave (daveandlindab@comcast.net) wrote:> > I just got back home to New Jersey from picking up what I thought was my> > new 66 1600 from North Carolina. It was a LONG grueling drive. About> > halfway home, my Wife, Linda, asked where we were going to keep 2> > Datsuns, I told her the 66 we just got would eventually replace my 69> > 2000, so after the 2000 was sold, it would be in the garage. She gave a> > rather strange look.thought for a moment, and then informed me that this> > was HER car, the 2000 was mine. I had not been aware of this part of> > the plan. I had sold all my "extra roadsters" in the last few weeks to> > make room for this one, planning on doing a full rebuild and making it> > the keeper, then sell my 2000, and get most of the money spent back..> > This is apparently now NOT the plan.> >> >> >> > She was deciding on colors on the way home, turquoise is leading so far.> > Oh, and she wants my stroker motor too!! So I cleaned out the garage to> > make room for HER car to be inside. MY car is at my> > sister's house, 15> > miles away in her garage, and will live OUTSIDE when it's> > at our house.> > This now explains the weatherproof car cover I got for my birthday last> > month. This plan has been in the work> You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 18:50:03 2008 From: Jim Anable To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:49:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Can you help diagnose a brake problem? Thanks to all for their messages and suggestions. I've been neglecting E-mail for a while, but here's how it resolved... I picked the car up, and the mechanic said that he and the owner "found" the adjustment on the rear brakes. It just needed adjustment! There's a rod in the back that attaches to the parking brake lever. They said that I had snapped the rod. That's the only thing that they welded. So, I'm guessing that the shoes were WAY loose. I came to a slight incline, applied the parking brake, which didn't have enough throw to lock the shoes... but did have enough throw to somehow knock them off center, resulting in the rhythmic scraping/grinding (that immediately would follow application of the parking brake). I have the service manual and debated whether I should bring in a copy of the parking brake section and showing the adjuster. But I figured that their in the brake business, so.... It's been resolved. Now that the rain has returned! Jim Anable wrote: > I brought my '70 2000 in to the brake shop because the parking brake > would no longer hold if I applied in on a hill (and I've got a gnarly > one between office and home). > > Shop says I need rear brakes. Fine. > > They complete the job and say that they did a weld on the brake cable > (?). I pick the car up, and it seems to drive okay until I try to use > the parking brake on a hill. It wouldn't hold, and there's also a > rhythmic scrape from the rear right drum. Owner says they may need to > tack a rod on to brace whatever weld they did. > > I take it back for round two. They can't figure it out. Gotta leave it > for a day. > > I call the next day, they say "all done, just needed adjustment." > > On the way home... You guessed it! I *gingerly* apply the brake on a > slight incline. It does NOT hold. There was never a "give" or a sign > that any weld or repair gave way. IMMEDIATELY after attempting to set > the brake, the rhythmic scraping returns! > > Any clues? My brake shop doesn't seem to have one. Now I'm without my > car for the weekend. > > Thanks in advance, > Jim (who quit messing with brakes years ago, and has forgotten what > little he knew back then) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jim@seattle-attorney.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > -- PO`!1a ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 19:09:28 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: nmleeds@mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:09:24 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot? Could be the rubbing block is worn out and you need new points. keith In a message dated 8/18/2008 2:33:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, nmleeds@mindspring.com writes: Still adjusting the car after the long road trip and I'm starting to wonder what's up with my points. So here's the problem -- above 4500 rpm's, under any load, I'm getting the chinese fireworks out of the back of the tailpipe. My thought: maybe I don't have enough dwell; not enough dwell => not enough magnetic field => weak spark. Right? So I go to check my dwell and it's a sorry 37 degrees. My attempts to bring it up to the 49-50 in spec. are rewarded with a car that doesn't start at all. Who says this means that my points are shot; or, more specifically, that my foot is so shot that the geometry can't both give me enough dwell, and enough separation for a really nice spark. I know this means that I should be going away from points and condensers and buy an electric system, but I'm a poor, out of work, attorney with student loans and an expensive dry cleaning bill who can't afford the upgrade just yet. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 SU's **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 12:09:14 2008 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?marc barnes=20?= To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:09:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Automated Reply from marc barnes I will be out of the office starting Monday, August 11 and will return on Monday, August 25th. If you are in need of immediate assistance, please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. Thanks! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 18:21:38 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:21:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] A Arm shaft remanufacture orders due now In case some of you missed it, on the 311 list a guy named Eddie, (handle, eddietude), has remanufactured some A Arm shafts for a reasonable price. Anyone wanting to order should order now, right away. A limited number are being made and order is due. Extras will go to vendors and price will go up. I have NO connection but wanted to pass along the info as a reminder. Again, 311 list, eddietude Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 18:43:57 2008 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Good Parts Supplier Suggestions? Okay, so I have the "junkyard special" '66. A few days after I bought it without a title, the title showed up, so I happily gave him the rest of the money. He also told me about the original hard top, sitting at a nearby shop. I went to the shop, and in a trash filled storage room in the barrio, there it was, an old Astro top. There's a crack on one section that is easy to repair, and the rear window is also broken and the window seal is also shot. But it's back with the car, not sure if I'll use it. I replaced the old oil filter that has been on it for ages (had to take the adapter off the block to get it off) and added fresh oil. A peek inside the gas tank showed some older gas, but no water or rust floating around. So I added 4 gallons of fresh 92 octane, and hooked up the now charged battery. After 20 seconds of cranking, it started, ran rough for a little while, then smoothed out. It idles high, about 1500 rpm, but the oil pressure is about 30-35 psi, coolant stayed about 130 degrees and the engine sounds good. It does need tuning, of course. There is some pressure in the brake pedal, and a good flushing and bleeding will probably work wonders. Pads and shoes are unknown yet. No clutch hydraulics at all, but I was told this was the problem. So, does anybody have any good suggestions to get replacement parts from? I obviously need a clutch master and slave to start with. I'd rather ask for some recommendations before I start ordering stuff. Not all vendors are the same.... Thanks, vince 1966 1600 Roadstser Naperville, IL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 19:34:54 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: Keith0alan@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:33:44 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot? Is it possibly a bad condensor? My friend's 1600 would backfire and miss for no reason, and it started doing it suddenly. It was a bitch to start but eventually after it got warm enough it would run but very rough. After we let it cool down for just a bit, we refired it... it ran ok for a short period of time, then began the same behavior. My brain said "Something is getting hot and sucking spark away." So we changed out the condensor... problem immediately solved. BTW, he had messed with the point gap exactly as you have described and was able to get the car to run at certain RPMs, but it was the condensor the whole time. This may explain the inability to change dwell as well (?). Cheap and easy to find out! Greg Burrows 67 2000 -- Keith0alan@aol.com wrote: Could be the rubbing block is worn out and you need new points. keith In a message dated 8/18/2008 2:33:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, nmleeds@mindspring.com writes: Still adjusting the car after the long road trip and I'm starting to wonder what's up with my points. So here's the problem -- above 4500 rpm's, under any load, I'm getting the chinese fireworks out of the back of the tailpipe. My thought: maybe I don't have enough dwell; not enough dwell => not enough magnetic field => weak spark. Right? So I go to check my dwell and it's a sorry 37 degrees. My attempts to bring it up to the 49-50 in spec. are rewarded with a car that doesn't start at all. Who says this means that my points are shot; or, more specifically, that my foot is so shot that the geometry can't both give me enough dwell, and enough separation for a really nice spark. I know this means that I should be going away from points and condensers and buy an electric system, but I'm a poor, out of work, attorney with student loans and an expensive dry cleaning bill who can't afford the upgrade just yet. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 SU's ____________________________________________________________ Click to lower your debt and consolidate your monthly expenses. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4txz4xAwFSPYkAqVpzUWdMD1 EdokfRlmCfIDRjRup7yumWnM/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 20:28:17 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:28:30 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch master & slave (was Re: Good Parts Supplier >From the Hydraulics section of the Parts Interchange on 311s.org: # Clutch slave Raybestos #SC37213 or Beck-Arnley 072-1241. Application 1969-1972 521 truck. Fits perfectly, everything bolts right up. Bought at the local Parts Plus store for about $27--$32. (67.5 and all high winshields) # Clutch master early 510 clutch master cylinder number, Beck-Arnley 072-1084, used till 2/69.(All) >From RockAuto.com: Clutch master: BECK/ARNLEY Part # 072-6521 $36.79 They also list a repair kit for the clutch slave. Ciao. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Vince Strazzabosco > Okay, so I have the "junkyard special" '66. A few days after I bought it > without a title, the title showed up, so I happily gave him the rest of the > money. He also told me about the original hard top, sitting at a nearby shop. > I went to the shop, and in a trash filled storage room in the barrio, there it > was, an old Astro top. There's a crack on one section that is easy to repair, > and the rear window is also broken and the window seal is also shot. But it's > back with the car, not sure if I'll use it. > > I replaced the old oil filter that has been on it for ages (had to take the > adapter off the block to get it off) and added fresh oil. A peek inside the gas > tank showed some older gas, but no water or rust floating around. So I added 4 > gallons of fresh 92 octane, and hooked up the now charged battery. After 20 > seconds of cranking, it started, ran rough for a little while, then smoothed > out. It idles high, about 1500 rpm, but the oil pressure is about 30-35 psi, > coolant stayed about 130 degrees and the engine sounds good. It does need > tuning, of course. > > There is some pressure in the brake pedal, and a good flushing and bleeding will > probably work wonders. Pads and shoes are unknown yet. No clutch hydraulics at > all, but I was told this was the problem. > > So, does anybody have any good suggestions to get replacement parts from? I > obviously need a clutch master and slave to start with. I'd rather ask for some > recommendations before I start ordering stuff. Not all vendors are the same.... > > Thanks, > > vince > 1966 1600 Roadstser > Naperville, IL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 20:39:09 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:37:53 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A Arm shaft remanufacture orders due now Here's a link to the thread, but you have to be a registered member on 311s.org: Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: ljordan704@netscape.net > In case some of you missed it, on the 311 list a guy named Eddie, (handle, > eddietude), has remanufactured some A Arm shafts for a reasonable price. Anyone > wanting to order should order now, right away. A limited number are being made > and order is due. Extras will go to vendors and price will go up. > > I have NO connection but wanted to pass along the info as a reminder. > > Again, 311 list, eddietude > > Linda > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 22:35:48 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:35:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] R16 Maximum Valve Lift? Anyone know what the maximum valve lift is on the R16 before you have to start changing components? Recent head work has shown the exhaust retainers are hitting the valve seals and have destroyed them . Guess that has to be part of why my car wasn't running so well....... Cam has only .265" lift (.385" valve lift), and for some reason I expected to be able to go well past .400" valve lift before I had problems..... Am I wrong? I'm thinking the custom valves are too short?? or...?? Thanks Daryl [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of icon_eek.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of icon_evil.gif] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 09:30:34 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:30:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] nice clean used late Solexes for sale just swapped into a set of late Solexes, complete with water tube, cable stand, water outlet pipes including T, all but an air cleaner assembly. first $1k offer owns it. they appear to be very clean, I'd probably bolt them on my own car as is (if I hadn't sold it...) also just picked up a 70 Caddy Fleetwood convertible, it's available too. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly...and a '40 Packard http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 10:07:31 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:07:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters, Keepers, and cars for sale I'm paring back to the cars I plan to keep and have a good few cars from my collection available. keepers include but not limited to: '54 Studebaker Coupe 40 Packard Super 8 Business Coupe supercharged Datsun Roadster one 67.5 2000 my dad's 85 El Camino SPL213 purchased from Kerry available: 70 Cadillac Fleetwood Convertible Prototype 1500 SPL310-00003 SRL311-00006 and others 35k original mile 66 1600 20k original mile 68 1600 race roadsters Volvo 122s Amazon Lotus 7 kit racer project 76 GMC Eleganza II 26' motorhome, 41k miles other roadsters have until september 20th to raise about $10k to pay off the Packard...may just go the collector car financing route. if you have more time than money, can front out roadsters and you can make payments if known to me or good references from folks known to me even have some parts roadsters I'll GIVE away if you come pick them up... to use for parts though, not to sell for scrap. I can do that myself... have a couple fast boats for sale too. sold the airplane already Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 10:12:22 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:15:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1600 FS in Northern CA I have added a 67 1600 to the NOWROC For Sale page. The car is located near Placerville, California. Give Bob a call if you are interested. I have a few pictures on the link below. http://www.nowroc.org/ForSale/bob_mcfarland.htm Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 11:19:36 2008 From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:19:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go? Still tuning, And now I'm starting to have evil urges. There's a little devil sitting on my shoulder which wants me to buy a crate of octane boost and crank out my advance (20+ degrees on my SU carb, Solex cam, U20). What is people's experiance in this regard. How much maximum advance (mechanical + vacume) can the U20 take on 91 octane, and then how much more can it take with a little street-legal octane booster. I know there are standard formulas depending on the engine, I just don't know what they are. Also, does someone know where I can find the advance charts for the U20 distributors (plural because I know there are a couple of available curves, and I don't yet know which mine is). I'd like to get a feeling for what my maximum theoretical advance is without pissing off the neighbors by running my engine at 6000 rpms. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 U20 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 11:43:53 2008 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: nmleeds@mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:43:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go? Nathanial, I had my Solex U20 on a dyno at 5000ft with regular gas and saw no appreciable hp difference between static timing settings of 15 and 20 DBTC. Octane boost will allow more compression without detonation?however I don't believe it will?allow you much more power with just a timing change.? I.e. If you advance the timing too far you get into timing related pre-ignition not detonation.? I think the octane boost only helps on the latter. I am looking for others to chime in here to confirm my thoughts, or to shoot me down if I need corrected. John Over Denver, CO -----Original Message----- From: Nathaniel Leeds To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:19 am Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go? Still tuning, And now I'm starting to have evil urges. There's a little devil sitting on my shoulder which wants me to buy a crate of octane boost and crank out my advance (20+ degrees on my SU carb, Solex cam, U20). What is people's experiance in this regard. How much maximum advance (mechanical + vacume) can the U20 take on 91 octane, and then how much more can it take with a little street-legal octane booster. I know there are standard formulas depending on the engine, I just don't know what they are. Also, does someone know where I can find the advance charts for the U20 distributors (plural because I know there are a couple of available curves, and I don't yet know which mine is). I'd like to get a feeling for what my maximum theoretical advance is without pissing off the neighbors by running my engine at 6000 rpms. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 U20 You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 12:45:00 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: , Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:44:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go? John said: I am looking for others to chime in here to confirm my thoughts, or to shoot me down if I need corrected. Bugs: Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home. Daffy: Shoot him now; shoot him now. Bugs: You keep outta this, he doesn't have to shoot you now. Daffy: Hah! That's it! Hold it right there! [to audience] Pronoun trouble. [to Bugs] It's not "he doesn't have to shoot you now", it's "he doesn't have to shoot me now" [Pause] Daffy: [angrily] Well, I say he does have to shoot me now!! [to Elmer] So shoot me now! [Elmer obliges and lets him have it] Hehehehe! Happy Wednesday! Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jover4x4@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:43 PM To: nmleeds@mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go? Nathanial, I had my Solex U20 on a dyno at 5000ft with regular gas and saw no appreciable hp difference between static timing settings of 15 and 20 DBTC. Octane boost will allow more compression without detonation?however I don't believe it will?allow you much more power with just a timing change.? I.e. If you advance the timing too far you get into timing related pre-ignition not detonation.? I think the octane boost only helps on the latter. I am looking for others to chime in here to confirm my thoughts, or to shoot me down if I need corrected. John Over Denver, CO -----Original Message----- From: Nathaniel Leeds To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:19 am Subject: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go? Still tuning, And now I'm starting to have evil urges. There's a little devil sitting on my shoulder which wants me to buy a crate of octane boost and crank out my advance (20+ degrees on my SU carb, Solex cam, U20). What is people's experiance in this regard. How much maximum advance (mechanical + vacume) can the U20 take on 91 octane, and then how much more can it take with a little street-legal octane booster. I know there are standard formulas depending on the engine, I just don't know what they are. Also, does someone know where I can find the advance charts for the U20 distributors (plural because I know there are a couple of available curves, and I don't yet know which mine is). I'd like to get a feeling for what my maximum theoretical advance is without pissing off the neighbors by running my engine at 6000 rpms. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 U20 You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 13:40:44 2008 From: "Stan Rasmussen" To: , , Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:40:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot? Nathaniel and all, I have a similar problem with my SRL311 but only after it gets hot, it purrs and roars great for the first 20 minutes but then will start the snap crackle popping and not run smooth at RPM's above 2.5k. Also, what is a good way to visibly mark and then interpret the timing marks, mine has numerous notches but I can't determine which is what? Thanks - Stan in Indy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith0alan@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:09 PM To: nmleeds@mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Dwell of 37 degrees - are my points shot? Could be the rubbing block is worn out and you need new points. keith In a message dated 8/18/2008 2:33:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, nmleeds@mindspring.com writes: Still adjusting the car after the long road trip and I'm starting to wonder what's up with my points. So here's the problem -- above 4500 rpm's, under any load, I'm getting the chinese fireworks out of the back of the tailpipe. My thought: maybe I don't have enough dwell; not enough dwell => not enough magnetic field => weak spark. Right? So I go to check my dwell and it's a sorry 37 degrees. My attempts to bring it up to the 49-50 in spec. are rewarded with a car that doesn't start at all. Who says this means that my points are shot; or, more specifically, that my foot is so shot that the geometry can't both give me enough dwell, and enough separation for a really nice spark. I know this means that I should be going away from points and condensers and buy an electric system, but I'm a poor, out of work, attorney with student loans and an expensive dry cleaning bill who can't afford the upgrade just yet. Nathaniel Leeds '69 2000 SU's **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 14:40:59 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:39:12 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Maximum Advance and Octane -- how far can I go? Wasn't there something in a previous post about an out-of-work lawyer? I'd be considering an EI dizzy before octane boost, lower mpg, and possible discussions with the local gendarmes. Just sayin... Pete "who remembers putting Sunoco 260 in his Suzuki 250....ZOOM! ZOOM!" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Nathaniel Leeds" > Still tuning, > > And now I'm starting to have evil urges. There's a little devil sitting on > my shoulder which wants me to buy a crate of octane boost and crank out my > advance (20+ degrees on my SU carb, Solex cam, U20). What is people's > experiance in this regard. How much maximum advance (mechanical + vacume) > can the U20 take on 91 octane, and then how much more can it take with a > little street-legal octane booster. I know there are standard formulas > depending on the engine, I just don't know what they are. > > Also, does someone know where I can find the advance charts for the U20 > distributors (plural because I know there are a couple of available curves, > and I don't yet know which mine is). I'd like to get a feeling for what my > maximum theoretical advance is without pissing off the neighbors by running > my engine at 6000 rpms. > > Nathaniel Leeds > '69 2000 U20 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 14:49:35 2008 From: Matthew Cox To: roadster list Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Port & Polish Hey everyone! I need to finally get my engine back together because I am moving to Philly and would rather move a car instead of boxes of parts (and I'm probably not going to have a garage for a while). Anyhoo, I need to get some head work done first and am thinking about getting it ported. Does anyone have any tips/advise about this? Also, a couple of months ago someone on the list recommended someone to me, but I have since forgotten who and have misplaced the email. Sorry! Anyone who has done this have something to share? Matthew... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 14:55:38 2008 From: Matthew Cox To: roadster list Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Port & Polish Oh, I forgot... the engine is a stock '67 1600 with a slightly larger cam and I am in Phoenix but I would be happy to ship the head to someone good... Local could also be nice. Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 1:49 PM Hey everyone! I need to finally get my engine back together because I am moving to Philly and would rather move a car instead of boxes of parts (and I'm probably not going to have a garage for a while). Anyhoo, I need to get some head work done first and am thinking about getting it ported. Does anyone have any tips/advise about this? Also, a couple of months ago someone on the list recommended someone to me, but I have since forgotten who and have misplaced the email. Sorry! Anyone who has done this have something to share? Matthew..