From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 04:48:17 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 03:48:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Group, On the way back from our Mississippi River run in July my engine started missing to the point where I could barely keep it running even at freeway speeds. I did make it home and found that my fuel pump was leaking. I changed out the fuel pump and added a clear gas fuel filter before the fuel pump the problem appeared to have been solved. Last week during a lake shore ride to see the Harley's here in Milwaukee for the 105th she started missing again. The engine would die but I was able to get it started again and proceed towards home. The new fuel pump appears to be working and the timing is at 16 btdc. Bad fuel? Dirty/rusty fuel tank? Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks Steve Harvey ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 07:27:00 2008 From: "Mike Faggart" To: sportsix63@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:26:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Convertible Top Questions try our vendors. On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 1:24 PM, jim williams wrote: > Where woud I find the best deal on a fabric top for a 1600 Roadster? > Last: It appears that the bow on my car has warpped. Can that happen? > The car has always been inside and the original top is still on it. > Can te bow be repaired? > I would use the original top but it has shrunk. > > > > Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikefaggart@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Mike Faggart ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 09:05:43 2008 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:05:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Sounds like intermittent fuel starvation. Junk (flakes of rust, paint, preservative) in the tank collecting at/over the pickup point, perhaps? Steve Harvey wrote: >Group, > > > >On the way back from our Mississippi River run in July my engine started >missing to the point where I could barely keep it running even at freeway >speeds. I did make it home and found that my fuel pump was leaking. I >changed out the fuel pump and added a clear gas fuel filter before the fuel >pump the problem appeared to have been solved. Last week during a lake >shore ride to see the Harley's here in Milwaukee for the 105th she started >missing again. The engine would die but I was able to get it started again >and proceed towards home. The new fuel pump appears to be working and the >timing is at 16 btdc. Bad fuel? Dirty/rusty fuel tank? Any ideas would be >welcome. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve Harvey ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 09:22:28 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:23:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Steve, Year/model car? SU's or ...? If SU's there are those inlet screens (on the banjo fittings, I believe). Any crap in the fuel filter? Has your gas tank ever been cleaned/flushed/boiled out? If yes, when? If not, it's time. Pete "tossing ideas out there" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RWM (Out of the Office) Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:05 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Sounds like intermittent fuel starvation. Junk (flakes of rust, paint, preservative) in the tank collecting at/over the pickup point, perhaps? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 3:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Group, On the way back from our Mississippi River run in July my engine started missing to the point where I could barely keep it running even at freeway speeds. I did make it home and found that my fuel pump was leaking. I changed out the fuel pump and added a clear gas fuel filter before the fuel pump the problem appeared to have been solved. Last week during a lake shore ride to see the Harley's here in Milwaukee for the 105th she started missing again. The engine would die but I was able to get it started again and proceed towards home. The new fuel pump appears to be working and the timing is at 16 btdc. Bad fuel? Dirty/rusty fuel tank? Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks Steve Harvey Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 10:04:15 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:03:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Steve, There can be quite a bit of gunk in the fuel lines even when the tank has been cleaned, that was the case for me ( I used GasTank Renu service) The surprising thing is how long it can take for bits to break loose. Cleaning the? metal fuel lines and using the clear plastic fuel filters (and always having a spare with you) can help. Also an overlooked problem can be a stuck fuel bowl valve, which can shut off the flow making you run on one carb. It doesn't seem to take long for gas to degrade and cause problems. My experience anyway. Linda 68 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Steve Harvey To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 3:48 am Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Group, On the way back from our Mississippi River run in July my engine started missing to the point where I could barely keep it running even at freeway speeds. I did make it home and found that my fuel pump was leaking. I changed out the fuel pump and added a clear gas fuel filter before the fuel pump the problem appeared to have been solved. Last week during a lake shore ride to see the Harley's here in Milwaukee for the 105th she started missing again. The engine would die but I was able to get it started again and proceed towards home. The new fuel pump appears to be working and the timing is at 16 btdc. Bad fuel? Dirty/rusty fuel tank? Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks Steve Harvey You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 11:40:28 2008 From: "Brian Duran" To: "Steve Harvey" , Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:40:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems HAd a similar issue a couple of months ago seems it wasnt a fuel pump issue but a loose wire connection at the coil found out by accident but what a relief ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 3:48 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel problems > Group, > > > > On the way back from our Mississippi River run in July my engine started > missing to the point where I could barely keep it running even at freeway > speeds. I did make it home and found that my fuel pump was leaking. I > changed out the fuel pump and added a clear gas fuel filter before the > fuel > pump the problem appeared to have been solved. Last week during a lake > shore ride to see the Harley's here in Milwaukee for the 105th she > started > missing again. The engine would die but I was able to get it started again > and proceed towards home. The new fuel pump appears to be working and the > timing is at 16 btdc. Bad fuel? Dirty/rusty fuel tank? Any ideas would be > welcome. > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve Harvey > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as doobop101@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 11:49:33 2008 From: Herb Petty To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel ?? Maybe it isn't fuel !! Every so often, check the little plastic piece on the side of the Dist. This is where the condenser & the coil wire hook up. This little guy can crack wtih age, & have ya lookin all over the place for an answer---- Been there & done that ! Check all connections, It can't hurt, & you might be surprised as to what you find. Enjoy your little car & take a drive today !! Herb Petty Modesto, Ca. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 14:01:04 2008 From: jim williams To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Convertible Top Seal Installation Photo Could I get someone to photo the correct installation of the header bow seal? My old one was completely gone. Jim Williams Lewisburg, West Virginia ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 15:34:33 2008 From: Steve Jacobson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Black high windshield 2000 spotted just south of Plymouth, WI driving north on Hwy 57 on Labor Day. Anybody here? PS: Top was UP, why? (85 and sunny) Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 15:57:53 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Datsun list Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:57:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster wanted >From the Spokane, WA CraigsList: i am looking for a datsun fairlady roadster, i would prefer a 67 or earlier but will look at all, it can be a running driving car, or it can be a project car. thanks e-mail Jim @ jimandjana@comcast.net ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 16:25:58 2008 From: Mike Harper To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Paul Kort's e-mail address Paul please contact me off list with your current e-mail address. Roadster content - plenty! Mike Harper ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 18:19:40 2008 From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: Steve Harvey , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:18:37 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Steve, I would check the connections on the ballast resistor first for an intermittent short. Then remove the fuel line at each carb input (one at a time) with the engine running to verify fuel flow to the carbs. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Harvey >Sent: Sep 1, 2008 4:48 AM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel problems > >Group, > > > >On the way back from our Mississippi River run in July my engine started >missing to the point where I could barely keep it running even at freeway >speeds. I did make it home and found that my fuel pump was leaking. I >changed out the fuel pump and added a clear gas fuel filter before the fuel >pump the problem appeared to have been solved. Last week during a lake >shore ride to see the Harley's here in Milwaukee for the 105th she started >missing again. The engine would die but I was able to get it started again >and proceed towards home. The new fuel pump appears to be working and the >timing is at 16 btdc. Bad fuel? Dirty/rusty fuel tank? Any ideas would be >welcome. > > > >Thanks > > > >Steve Harvey >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 23:20:10 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 22:20:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] R16 - How to get .425" Valve lift? For anyone who may want to know: The machine shop cut the seal portion off the valve seat, so the seat can be used on the aluminum head, then machined the valve guide boss a little smaller to fit a Chevy style positive seal. I'm now good for .470" valve lift, with a good seal on the valve. Thanks for all the replies! Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] R16 - How to get .425" Valve lift? > Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. And thanks to Steve and Jim on > 311s.org for sending me to the competition prep manual. > http://www.datsun.org/roadster/info/sharp1600.pdf > They mention going as high as .480" valve lift, trimming the stands to > keep > the geometry correct, and shortening the pushrods, but nothing about the > seals....? > > Of couse Walter Peterson told me much of this already, but I thought there > had to be a better/cheaper/less complicated way.....Silly me..... > > Don't know if they used seals (been suggested leaving them out) or went to > a > different type of seal...Chevy/Porsche. . .? or Custom made as Walter > pointed out? > > Thanks > Daryl > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daryl Smith" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:34 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] R16 - How to get .425" Valve lift? > > >> No answers to the last question so let me put it another way...... >> >> How do I get .425" Valve lift on an aluminum R16 head. >> I had a cam with .387" valve lift which crushed the seals (exhaust only) >> and wanted >> to increase the lift if I could without too much difficulty. >> >> >> Anyone have any tips on whats involved? Any way to do it without custom >> made >> parts? >> >> Any advice appreciated!! >> >> Daryl > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > icon_confused.gif] > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as drlsmith@dccnet.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 2 07:13:23 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: Mitchell.Planck@foreseeresults.com, tputland@charter.net, Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:13:23 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] carb oil--how much----Thanks & a confession It is hard to argue with success. Many things will work just fine. I use the same 10-40 that I put in the crank case simply because it is convenient and works well enough to make me happy. keith In a message dated 9/2/2008 6:06:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Mitchell.Planck@foreseeresults.com writes: I've always used 3-in-1 oil for this. -Mitch Planck **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 2 09:06:14 2008 From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: 'Pete Peters' , Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:05:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Hi All! I am a first time owner of a 1968 (I Think) Datsun roadster. I am hoping to take it all apart and put it back together again. I have a million questions but I will start off with just one. I say I think it is a 1968 because the ad said "1968" and the Vin# is in the 1968 range. Everything points to '68 (according to various sources on the internet) but it has side marker lights like the '69 and the Pink Slip says 1969. If it is in fact a 1968 I would like to get the pink changes. Thanks for the help. Rich -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+rschlegel=ocsd.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+rschlegel=ocsd.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:23 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Steve, Year/model car? SU's or ...? If SU's there are those inlet screens (on the banjo fittings, I believe). Any crap in the fuel filter? Has your gas tank ever been cleaned/flushed/boiled out? If yes, when? If not, it's time. Pete "tossing ideas out there" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RWM (Out of the Office) Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:05 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Sounds like intermittent fuel starvation. Junk (flakes of rust, paint, preservative) in the tank collecting at/over the pickup point, perhaps? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 3:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel problems Group, On the way back from our Mississippi River run in July my engine started missing to the point where I could barely keep it running even at freeway speeds. I did make it home and found that my fuel pump was leaking. I changed out the fuel pump and added a clear gas fuel filter before the fuel pump the problem appeared to have been solved. Last week during a lake shore ride to see the Harley's here in Milwaukee for the 105th she started missing again. The engine would die but I was able to get it started again and proceed towards home. The new fuel pump appears to be working and the timing is at 16 btdc. Bad fuel? Dirty/rusty fuel tank? Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks Steve Harvey Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as rschlegel@ocsd.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 2 13:23:02 2008 From: "dana nojima" To: Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:08:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel problems >On the way back from our Mississippi River run in July my engine >started missing to the point where I could barely keep it running even >at freeway speeds. I did make it home and found that my fuel pump was >leaking. I changed out the fuel pump and added a clear gas fuel filter >before the fuel pump the problem appeared to have been solved. Last >week during a lake shore ride to see the Harley's here in Milwaukee for >the 105th she started missing again. The engine would die but I was >able to get it started again and proceed towards home. The new fuel >pump appears to be working and the timing is at 16 btdc. Bad fuel? >Dirty/rusty fuel tank? Any ideas would be welcome. > Steve, As you go through the usual suspects, Tank crud, fuel line crud, plugged fuel filter, fuel pot sediments, bits of junk stuck in the fuel pots, Banjo filter Remember ELECTRICAL. Check the points if you still have points. Good luck. Dana ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 2 18:46:34 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Datsun list Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:22:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun in the news Fall 2008 issue of Hagerty's on page 17 has a picture of "Tom Brown's 1968 Datsun 510 leads a pair of Porsche 356s". Way to go Tom! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 3 16:58:07 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:57:09 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: PL411 FS in Modesto, CA Decent looker found, no connection with seller. PL means 1300 cc J series engine, yes? (with these wheels it almost looks like Adam Bradley's old car) http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/822113996.html Datsun related: hid my roadster in the parking lot at my old work, have had to do without for 3-4 weeks while moving house, and I am jones-ing for a drive....... Fergus O, 69 2000 in hiding ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 3 18:51:36 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:51:31 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: PL411 FS in Modesto, CA Yep, except Adam's was a '67 RL411, which had the R16 motor. Nice car, but 411's just don't pull that kind of money. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" > Decent looker found, no connection with seller. PL means 1300 cc J > series engine, yes? (with these wheels it almost looks like Adam > Bradley's old car) > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/822113996.html > > > Fergus O, 69 2000 in hiding ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 4 13:40:45 2008 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] SSR LongChamps XR4 Oh Victor old wheel guru, where are't thou? What do you think about the price of these baby's? http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=23600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 5 13:19:31 2008 From: toolmansj2@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 grill Does anyone have a pic of how this thing mounts on or can some one explain it to me. Thanks Shaun -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 6 21:30:54 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:24:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Solutions Inc. Came across this company today: www.steeringsolutions.com I don't know what they are like as far as pricing, but says he can rebuild any steering gear. Thought there might be a chance someone might find it useful. Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 7 19:21:52 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:21:13 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 7 20:44:19 2008 From: "Oliver" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 21:43:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory or living room??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory > ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 7 21:48:06 2008 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: "'Oliver'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:47:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory In asked my wife, she said "no". Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:44 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory or living room??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory > You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 7 23:38:07 2008 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Oliver , Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory Oliver, Single, aren't you? Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: Oliver To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2008 9:43:39 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory or living room??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory > ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 8 01:21:34 2008 From: Ruth To: fasttrs@mindspring.com, , Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:21:02 +1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory We've got the Nissan version of one of those. I'd love a Datsun one though. Wonder how much to post to Australia? See the first pic on this page: http://www.earlydatsun.com/international.html Word to the wise - don't ever plug it in without making sure that the wiring is in working order. Thank goodness for power cutoff switches, is all I can say. It doesn't light up, but it makes an impressive statement! Ruth On 08/09/2008, at 1:47 PM, Joe Kinstle wrote: > In asked my wife, she said "no". > > Joe Kinstle > '68 2L > BLK SRL > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net > ] > On Behalf Of Oliver > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:44 PM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory > > or living room??? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:21 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory > > >> > You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ruth@earlydatsun.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 8 04:11:35 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:09:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory Oliver, Don't listen to them....I would love that sign over my fireplace , but I don't think it would fit so I would give it a wall in my family room. You have to have a sense of humor if you drive a Datsun. Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth" Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:21 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory > We've got the Nissan version of one of those. I'd love a Datsun one > though. Wonder how much to post to Australia? See the first pic on > this page: http://www.earlydatsun.com/international.html > > Word to the wise - don't ever plug it in without making sure that the > wiring is in working order. > > Thank goodness for power cutoff switches, is all I can say. It doesn't > light up, but it makes an impressive statement! > > Ruth > > > On 08/09/2008, at 1:47 PM, Joe Kinstle wrote: > >> In asked my wife, she said "no". >> >> Joe Kinstle >> '68 2L >> BLK SRL >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net >> ] >> On Behalf Of Oliver >> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:44 PM >> To: Datsun Roadster List >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory >> >> or living room??? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pete Peters" >> To: "Datsun Roadster List" >> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:21 PM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory >> >> >>> >> You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ruth@earlydatsun.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jklingman@stny.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 8 07:58:35 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:56:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Perfect garage accessory already have one ;-) Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 8 10:54:48 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:52:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What's the point? Group, After checking everything I could think of plus all of the suggestions from the group on why my 1600 would run great one minute and then miss, pop, and die the next, I think I finally figured it out. I changed the cap, rotor, plug wires, coil, fuel pump and fuel filter and checked wiring for loose wired but still the problem would come and go. Well, today I hand rotated the engine over and looked for the correct gap to appear between the point contacts. The gap was around .009" on all four lobes. Book states that it should be .045 -.055 mm or .018" - .022". I replaced the points and set them to .020". Took her for a quick spin around the block (in the rain) and she ran great. I'll take her out on Tuesday for a longer run in dry weather just to make sure that I've totally solved the problem. Thanks to all who provided input. Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 8 12:35:03 2008 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?marc barnes=20?= To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:25:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Automated Reply from marc barnes I will be out of the office starting Monday September 8 and will be returning Monday, September 15. If you are in need of immediate assistance please contact my office manager, Kathy, at 541-929-3408. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 8 18:33:32 2008 From: Tim To: willie.peterson@gmail.com, bill_wessel@yahoo.com, aultgc@att.net, Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:17:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Midwest Fall Color Roadster Run We have decided on the basics of our fall color fun the weekend of 10/10-10/12. For now we all need to book our rooms. I will cover the details at the end of this week when I have more time. Friday night we will stay in Prairie du Chein at a place called Captains Cove. Here is the web site: http://www.captainscovemotel.com/motel.asp Saturday night we will stay at the L&M in Savanna, IL again. Here is the web site. http://www.l-mmotel.com/ Neither is fancy but the rooms were very clean at the L&M and the owner of the L&M is a car guy and helped us out with a mechanical issue last time. We decided on Motels so we can park right outside our rooms. This also keeps the price down. Space is limited at the Captains Cove so don't delay making a reservation. Again, more details at the end of the week. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 10 10:11:53 2008 From: "Tim Waltz" To: Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:11:04 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters mentioned on Leno's Garage In Jay Leno's discussion of the 2009 Nissan GTR, he opens up talking about his first car being a 1600, the 2000, Mr. K and the 240Z. Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 10 11:31:04 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:30:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Next Nissansport- big issue! Just passing this on. Paul Ohio From: Blackwell Park Operations [mailto:merlin@explorewellsgray.com] This is a bit Shameless Self Promotion, but.. I have just finished my really big article for NissanSports next issue... with pictures it will run over 50 pages in 5 sections(25,000 words!)... 50 years of nissan in the US, plus the most comprehensive Datsun/Nissan racing history ever published anywhere, let alone in one magazine. subscribe now www.nissansportmag.com Every american model gets mentioned, from the first 210 to the newest Altima... I talked to Bob Sharp and John Morton about their days in roadsters. There are some great stories I dug out of the cobwebs from old company people and old and new racers... Bob Sharp to George Alderman to John Knepp to John Morton to Steve Millen. You will learn something new about the car or cars and Datsun people you know and love... If it works out as good as i hope (the NissanSport guys rebuilt the whole magazine to fit my writing, instead of telling me to edit it to fit... how cool is that!) this will as landmark an issue for all Datsun/Nissan guys - it cannot compete in the same level of detail as the intensive work of people like Rob Beddington, but it does give the roadster props for being the original Datsun racer. Automotive journalists I talked to in my telephone travels are special ordering it as their new reference benchmark on Nissan. Did I mention I have cancer?(was that too much?) subscribe now www.nissansportmag.com and pass this on to the other lists and boards if you could... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 10 18:41:14 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:40:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Hub caps Are these truck hub caps: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300256862066 Ebay item 300256862066 in case the url is cut up. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 10 19:41:58 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:41:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] A Arm Shaft update by Eddie List, Eddie on the 311 list has posted an update on the lower A Arm Shafts he is manufacturing: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8559&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=81f6448b976950a44f98dfc46bdc7775 Congrats to Eddie for his diligent work. Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 10 22:44:06 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:43:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hub caps The chassis in the pic looks like a Roadster, and you can read the tire size is 14" Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972-4 dr 510 Daisy (newest toy, and a driver) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Hub caps > Are these truck hub caps: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300256862066 > > Ebay item 300256862066 in case the url is cut up. > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 11 05:03:32 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 4:03:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hub caps I thought these were truck caps. Thanks to all who confirmed this. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Tim wrote: ============= Are these truck hub caps: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300256862066 Ebay item 300256862066 in case the url is cut up. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 11 06:29:43 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: Tim Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:29:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hub caps They are the same Hub Caps that are on my Roadster and on my 1970 Datsun Truck. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Tim wrote: > Are these truck hub caps: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300256862066 > > Ebay item 300256862066 in case the url is cut up. > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 11 13:41:21 2008 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:37:39 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 parts car on CL No connection with the seller. Located in Flagstaff, AZ. It's either a '63 or '64 Datsun 1500. No frame and the trans tunnel has been hacked up but, there appears to be lots of useable parts. Owner has many more pictures. Can't beat the price. http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/774261778.html Dan McHatton '66 1600 ____________________________________________________________ Click here to become certified in medical billing and training at these schools. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iihBcFO0GwpwEXzBLA3pBLkN32bY Xu4gB9y2UWoMmWZiyWrzQ/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 11 19:28:08 2008 From: Gary tew To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox.Team.Net" Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:03:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1500 parts car Well, all that's left of the rusted 1500 junker I had is the engine. Someone had dibs on some of the parts but I lost a bunch of emails on a hard drive crash recently. I have a complete intake manifold with carbs. I removed the head. The aluminum valve cover is intact with no broken tabs. There is an alternator bracket (with alternator), distributor, fuel pump, starter, fan blades, and any other basic engine parts, covers, etc. I'm accepting offers on any of it and the rest is off to the scrap yard next week, wife's orders. I'll ship it fedex ground with my employee discount. Thanks, Gary Tew Peoria, AZ '67 1600, VG-30 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 12 07:19:52 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 5:53:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Stan Rasmussen Hey Stan....I tried to reply to your email but it bounced. Do you have a different email address or can you add me to your "good sender" list? Or call me and we can try to sort it out... 608-445-9072 Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 12 23:00:23 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:59:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Valves leaking while cc'ing Just got my head back from the machine shop and was cc'ing (measuring) the combustion chambers. Noticed a small amount of the fluid leaking out a couple of the ports, tells me the valves aren't sealing quite properly....... Took it back to the machine shop, and he tells me that happens sometimes and to hit the valve on the spring side a few times with a rubber hammer and it should seat properly...... I did as he suggested, and the leaking is less, but still there........ Is this common on a fresh rebuild? If I put it on and run it, are the valves likely to "run in" and seal properly? Thanks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 13 07:27:24 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: drlsmith@dccnet.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:26:53 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valves leaking while cc'ing Shouldn't be a problem. I have had the same problem while ccing. A small amount of grease on the mating surface of the valve will keep it from leaking when you are ccing it. keith In a message dated 9/12/2008 10:00:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, drlsmith@dccnet.com writes: Just got my head back from the machine shop and was cc'ing (measuring) the combustion chambers. Noticed a small amount of the fluid leaking out a couple of the ports, tells me the valves aren't sealing quite properly....... Took it back to the machine shop, and he tells me that happens sometimes and to hit the valve on the spring side a few times with a rubber hammer and it should seat properly...... I did as he suggested, and the leaking is less, but still there........ Is this common on a fresh rebuild? If I put it on and run it, are the valves likely to "run in" and seal properly? Thanks You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 13 09:59:11 2008 From: Stan Chernoff To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:58:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test Sorry for the bandwidth but just checking to see if my messages go through. S ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 13 10:36:03 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 9:35:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] brake flushing I want to flush the brakes on my SRL. And I want to put the best recommended fluid back in. I do not know what fluid is currently in the brake system. I may be able to find out if I can find the phone number for the previous owner. My questions are these: What is the best way to completely flush the entire brake system? And Does it matter what fluid I put back in if I do not know what is currently in the system? I would hate to put in fresh and find out it is not compatible with any possible remnants of the old fluid. TIA from rainy southern WI. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 13 12:24:20 2008 From: Steve Ehlers To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:23:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valves leaking while cc'ing Hi, This is typical of poor quality machine work .Even with a slight interference angle made on seats and valves ,there should be NO leakage . If the head wasn't assembled you can seal the valves with a thin grease coating ,as we do when building a combustion chamber matched high Performance head set up .If the valves had been lapped in during the valve work a problem would have been seen in contact or possible run out on the seat .Quality machine work can't be assumed by the end user if you don't know the details of a quality job . For example , did you have new steel intake seats installed ,and at the right valve height ? Can the Machine shop even provide you with the correct stem height dimension . I doubt it ! Good Luck , Steve Ehlers www.risingsunperformance.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 13 15:38:21 2008 From: "dave" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:35:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake flushing As long as it's not DOT 5, silicone, brake fluid in the car, you can flush and refill with DOT 4. If it is DOT5, you must stay DOT5. SO ends all I know about brake fluid :) There are some others, but these are the common 2. As always, be careful of the paint. I split a couple heavy garbage bags and cover EVERYTHING the fluid might get on. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland@charter.net] I want to flush the brakes on my SRL. And I want to put the best recommended fluid back in. I do not know what fluid is currently in the brake system. I may be able to find out if I can find the phone number for the previous owner. My questions are these: What is the best way to completely flush the entire brake system? And Does it matter what fluid I put back in if I do not know what is currently in the system? I would hate to put in fresh and find out it is not compatible with any possible remnants of the old fluid. TIA from rainy southern WI. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 13 20:03:06 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:03:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake flushing Tim, Here's what I did years ago starting with DOT 3 fluid: 1. Drained the system. 2. Refilled with alcohol. 3. Drained alcohol and flushed with silicone (DOT 5). 4. Filled with silicone and bled. Worked great ever since. Silicone fluid is expensive, and I probably put a quart through the system after the alcohol. But, silicone is non-hygroscopic -- won't absorb water -- so the chance of corroding brake parts or wearing out rubber seals is minimized. I wouldn't consider anything but silicone in a non-race car. Just my opinion. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: [Roadsters] brake flushing >I want to flush the brakes on my SRL. And I want to put the best >recommended fluid back in. I do not know what fluid is currently in the >brake system. I may be able to find out if I can find the phone number for >the previous owner. > > My questions are these: > > What is the best way to completely flush the entire brake system? > > And > > Does it matter what fluid I put back in if I do not know what is currently > in the system? I would hate to put in fresh and find out it is not > compatible with any possible remnants of the old fluid. > > TIA from rainy southern WI. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 14 06:23:29 2008 From: Jim InVirginia To: Gary and Cindy Ault , Tim , Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:20:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake flushing Keep in mind that all brake systems get some moisture into them eventually. Brake fluid absorbs and mixes with water so that water drops do not freeze and cause you to have blocked lines and a loss of brakes during cold weather. So, silicone fluid will work great and maybe not have corrosion issues, but be careful on cold days. What I do is just bleed the brakes every 2-3 years to prolong the life of the brake componants. I use good quality normal DOT 3 fluid. Just my two cents, Best Regards, Jim 67 pushrod 2L 5 spd "SAKE RKT" 66 parts car 72 Sportwagon 510 project 96 Miata "M" daily driver> From: aultgc@att.net> To: tputland@charter.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:03:12 -0500> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake flushing> > Tim,> > Here's what I did years ago starting with DOT 3 fluid:> > 1. Drained the system.> 2. Refilled with alcohol.> 3. Drained alcohol and flushed with silicone (DOT 5).> 4. Filled with silicone and bled.> > Worked great ever since. Silicone fluid is expensive, and I probably put a > quart through the system after the alcohol. But, silicone is > non-hygroscopic -- won't absorb water -- so the chance of corroding brake > parts or wearing out rubber seals is minimized. I wouldn't consider > anything but silicone in a non-race car. Just my opinion.> > Gary> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:35 AM> Subject: [Roadsters] brake flushing> > > >I want to flush the brakes on my SRL. And I want to put the best > >recommended fluid back in. I do not know what fluid is currently in the > >brake system. I may be able to find out if I can find the phone number for > >the previous owner.> >> > My questions are these:> >> > What is the best way to completely flush the entire brake system?> >> > And> >> > Does it matter what fluid I put back in if I do not know what is currently > > in the system? I would hate to put in fresh and find out it is not > > compatible with any possible remnants of the old fluid.> >> > TIA from rainy southern WI.> >> > Tim> > Belleville, WI.> > '70 SPL AND SRL> > Still clueless but always learning> > ________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net> >> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as nqrithfordatsun@msn.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 14 23:29:13 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Steve Ehlers" , Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:29:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valves leaking while cc'ing Thanks for the note Steve, and others as well. I provided the machine shop with the list of spring specs/heights and stock valve dimensions with the work order. Seats? This is the SECOND shop that has told me that the stock seats in the aluminum head were in good shape, would be fine with the unleaded fuel, and there was enough material there to modify for my oversize 1.70" intake valves, and 1.35" exhaust valves..... I had suggested that they should change the exhaust seat since the new valve was almost 2.3mm larger, but they were adamant that it was fine and they didn't need to be changed.???? Is this a case of "we just don't want the work"??? Here's hoping this discussion saves someone else some time/money....... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ehlers" > Hi, > This is typical of poor quality machine work .Even with a slight > interference angle made on seats and valves ,there should be NO > leakage . If the head wasn't assembled you can seal the valves with a thin > grease coating ,as we do when building a combustion chamber matched high > Performance head set up .If the valves had been lapped in during the valve > work a problem would have been seen in contact or possible run out on the > seat .Quality machine work can't be assumed by the end user if you don't > know the details of a quality job . > > For example , did you have new steel intake seats installed ,and at the > right valve height ? Can the Machine shop even provide you with the > correct stem height dimension . I doubt it ! > Good Luck , > Steve Ehlers > www.risingsunperformance.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 04:37:55 2008 From: Tim To: quinlanhook@comcast.net, Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 3:37:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake flushing Has any one actually used the denatured alchohol to flush a system? Are they any concers, drawbacks, etc? What happens if not all the alchohol is removed from the lines? Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: ============= Just garden-variety denatured alcohol. Label says it is "Shellac thinner, alcohol & chafing dish fuel, gas line antifreeze and windshield washer anti-moistre gasoline additive". Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake flushing > This is timely information> > > Since yesterday was a dry, droptop type weather I climbed into my SPL > with the > thought of tooling around town only to find out I had lost all the brake > peddle > pressure as I backed out of the garage. SURPRISE !! 8-\ > > Seems that I have a little bit of work and a lot of coin to drop into the > bucket before it's on the road again. Thanks for the information > regarding the > best brake fluid to use and the flushing. > > One questions is what type of Alcohol do you use to fluse the system ?? > > Thanks > Cam ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 06:39:19 2008 From: Steve Ehlers To: Daryl Smith , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:37:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valves leaking while cc'ing Hi, If you have Brass intake seats ,which are sock , They MUST be replaced .They will be pounded-out and a stock valve will be "sunk" in the head and will fall out of the head eventually . If you have steel ,or a derivative ,you may be ok . That said , Nissan does not publish actual valve heights/ Stem lengths ,so they could not duplicate the dimension . They may have had spring heights dimension ,that is controlled by this number ,however their method would have involved using valve shims under the valve springs .This doesn't change the relationship with the actual stem length ,or valve position relative to the seat . Since you had them install bigger valves ?? , that would have raised the valve and made stem lengths shorter than spec ,possibly . Anyways , Seat material used in the 1960's was designed for Leaded Gas ,how would they know ,unless the seats had bean changed ? Steve Ehlers www.risingsunperformance.com Daryl Smith wrote: Thanks for the note Steve, and others as well. I provided the machine shop with the list of spring specs/heights and stock valve dimensions with the work order. Seats? This is the SECOND shop that has told me that the stock seats in the aluminum head were in good shape, would be fine with the unleaded fuel, and there was enough material there to modify for my oversize 1.70" intake valves, and 1.35" exhaust valves..... I had suggested that they should change the exhaust seat since the new valve was almost 2.3mm larger, but they were adamant that it was fine and they didn't need to be changed.???? Is this a case of "we just don't want the work"??? Here's hoping this discussion saves someone else some time/money....... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ehlers" Hi, This is typical of poor quality machine work .Even with a slight interference angle made on seats and valves ,there should be NO leakage . If the head wasn't assembled you can seal the valves with a thin grease coating ,as we do when building a combustion chamber matched high Performance head set up .If the valves had been lapped in during the valve work a problem would have been seen in contact or possible run out on the seat .Quality machine work can't be assumed by the end user if you don't know the details of a quality job . For example , did you have new steel intake seats installed ,and at the right valve height ? Can the Machine shop even provide you with the correct stem height dimension . I doubt it ! Good Luck , Steve Ehlers www.risingsunperformance.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 07:14:26 2008 From: "MH" To: "Steve Ehlers" , "Daryl Smith" Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:14:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valves leaking while cc'ing I have a spare late, smog R16 head that does have brass intake seats and steel exhaust seats. I'm scratching my head wondering what is the reason for this if it left the factory that way. I'm confused by the this and other info I've read, and maybe I'm just not reading it write. I'm hearing that some say to replace intake brass with steel seats, and others saying to replace brass exhaust with the steel ones. It seems like it should be steel for exhaust seats because of the heat, but why would brass be a problem for intake valves? Need some techno here! Which is what? and why? ........again please. Mike Hudson '67 - stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ehlers" To: "Daryl Smith" ; Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valves leaking while cc'ing > Hi, > If you have Brass intake seats ,which are sock , They MUST be > replaced .They will be pounded-out and a stock valve will be "sunk" in > the head and will fall out of the head eventually . > If you have steel ,or a derivative ,you may be ok . That said , > Nissan does not publish actual valve heights/ Stem lengths ,so they > could not duplicate the dimension . They may have had spring heights > dimension ,that is controlled by this number ,however their method > would have involved using valve shims under the valve springs .This > doesn't change the relationship with the actual stem length ,or valve > position relative to the seat . Since you had them install bigger > valves ?? , that would have raised the valve and made stem lengths > shorter > than spec ,possibly . Anyways , Seat material used in the 1960's was > designed for Leaded Gas ,how would they know ,unless the seats > had bean changed ? > Steve Ehlers > www.risingsunperformance.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 08:19:25 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:19:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Irvine CA Car show pics, a roadster in attendance! So there was a roadster visitor to the local Irvine car show (which I missed this weekend). These photographers are a bit too "wowwed" by modern supercars, and don't take enough detail pics of the classics. The typical collection (love the Ariel Atom drivers get-up! I think I saw it on Silence of the Lambs) http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2397 Not a car I remember, anyone know this one? Bluish silver low windshield. (had to dig in the back-ups pics for this one) http://cncpics.com/v/0908/080913/cci0809130382.JPG.html And a nice silver hi wondshield, the grille looks familiar, but I can't remember whose... http://carsandcoffee.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2408 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 11:00:35 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: drlsmith@dccnet.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:59:05 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valves leaking while cc'ing You are more likely to have a shop sell you something you don't need rather than not sell you something you do. I have not personally seen a brass seat that has had a problem from unleaded gas. On a race engine you might but I don't think it is a big problem on a street car. Here is where you might have a problem. Most of the heat is shed from a valve through the valve seat. If your clearances are tight the valve can overheat. This could cause seat damage. If you check your valve clearances every once and a while and notice that one always seem to be tight then you could have a problem. If someone has a head with a receded valve seat please post a picture. If the brass seats need replaced go with the hard seats. Otherwise I would leave them alone. keith williams In a message dated 9/14/2008 10:30:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, drlsmith@dccnet.com writes: Thanks for the note Steve, and others as well. I provided the machine shop with the list of spring specs/heights and stock valve dimensions with the work order. Seats? This is the SECOND shop that has told me that the stock seats in the aluminum head were in good shape, would be fine with the unleaded fuel, and there was enough material there to modify for my oversize 1.70" intake valves, and 1.35" exhaust valves..... I had suggested that they should change the exhaust seat since the new valve was almost 2.3mm larger, but they were adamant that it was fine and they didn't need to be changed.???? Is this a case of "we just don't want the work"??? Here's hoping this discussion saves someone else some time/money....... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ehlers" > Hi, > This is typical of poor quality machine work .Even with a slight > interference angle made on seats and valves ,there should be NO > leakage . If the head wasn't assembled you can seal the valves with a thin > grease coating ,as we do when building a combustion chamber matched high > Performance head set up .If the valves had been lapped in during the valve > work a problem would have been seen in contact or possible run out on the > seat .Quality machine work can't be assumed by the end user if you don't > know the details of a quality job . > > For example , did you have new steel intake seats installed ,and at the > right valve height ? Can the Machine shop even provide you with the > correct stem height dimension . I doubt it ! > Good Luck , > Steve Ehlers > www.risingsunperformance.com **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 14:06:35 2008 From: Stan Chernoff To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:06:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Parts downsizing from 25+ years collecting and hoarding The time has come to eliminate much of my collection of roadster parts and items. Circumstances beyond my control have caused this reduction. I have a list of selected items to sell off from my collection and hoarding. The list includes new cylinder heads, EI distributors, gauges, remanufactured short block, new cylinder block etc. There may be additional lists in the future. Please go to http://www.fairladyproducts.com/blowout.html to view the list. Please send an email to me if you have any questions concerning the items listed or other items that you may need. I was not successful posting the list of items to the datsun-roadsters list. Thank you, Stab ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 18:02:49 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Tim'" , , "'Gary Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:31:31 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake flushing De-natured Alcohol or Metholated Spirits as we call it in Oz, evaporates readily so there is no fear of any remaining in the system. It is excellent for displacing moisture. The water and alcohol combine readily and the resulting fluid evaps away! I use it to clean brake parts and have used it to flush the entire brake system. Poured it into the Master reservoir and operated the brake pedal to flush the lines. When re-filling with Brake fluid be prepared for a bit of wastage. It is far better to see nice clean fluid in the bleeder hose and throw it away than leave dirt in the system. "Has any one actually used the denatured alchohol to flush a system? Are they any concers, drawbacks, etc? What happens if not all the alchohol is removed from the lines? Thanks Tim" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 18:10:40 2008 From: Gary tew To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox.Team.Net" Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:10:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] last chance on stuff Well, I was able to find homes for some of the parts from my junker. I saved the clutch and plate because it looks like it was installed new and never used. I kept the flywheel, steering shaft, starter, head, parking brake linkage and alternator bracket. The carbs, alt, backing plate and valve cover are gone. The fuel pump was not an external lever type unit. Let me know if any of these parts can help you out. Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ 480-286-6587 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 19:01:13 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: graemes@internode.on.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:00:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake flushing Is this then, a good idea to do to really flush the system, even if you are replacing the fluid with Dot 3? Does it flush contaminants better for instance? With speed bleeders it is not too hard to flush the system, in my opinion. TIA, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Graeme Cc: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] brake flushing De-natured Alcohol or Metholated Spirits as we call it in Oz, evaporates readily so there is no fear of any remaining in the system. It is excellent for displacing moisture. The water and alcohol combine readily and the resulting fluid evaps away! I use it to clean brake parts and have used it to flush the entire brake system. Poured it into the Master reservoir and operated the brake pedal to flush the lines. When re-filling with Brake fluid be prepared for a bit of wastage. It is far better to see nice clean fluid in the bleeder hose and throw it away than leave dirt in the system. "Has any one actually used the denatured alchohol to flush a system? Are they any concers, drawbacks, etc? What happens if not all the alchohol is removed from the lines? Thanks Tim" You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 19:58:54 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:57:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] what has happened??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNl5WWL_qI0 in the first video, taken almost a year ago, the car is running happily. it ran like that for a month or so as i started to assemble wiring, etc, then gradually got worse and worse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItPnNEhYb7E tonight i checked the compression. 0, 0, 90, 120 yeah. checked it twice. so, what do you suggest? i know that if i put oil in the cylinder, that will pinpoint it being rings. but is that likely? someone suggested head gasket. i checked the oil, and at least the dipstick oil is still honey colored and nice. anyone want to guide me on the next steps? thanks . . . ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 15 20:33:29 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Oliver'" , Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:01:14 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] what has happened??? "tonight i checked the compression. 0, 0, 90, 120 yeah. checked it twice. so, what do you suggest? i know that if i put oil in the cylinder, that will pinpoint it being rings. but is that likely? someone suggested head gasket. i checked the oil, and at least the dipstick oil is still honey colored and nice. anyone want to guide me on the next steps? Thanks" It might just be tight valve clearances Back off the adjusters and repeat the compression test, which by the way, should be performed on an engine at operating temperature and with the throttle butterfly/slides wide open for maximum air intake Crank the engine with all spark plugs out until the reading stabilises, usually 3 or 4 cycles on the gauge. An oil squirt will assist in sealing the rings but I wouldn't think they would be an issue on such a fresh engine. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 00:20:33 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: Oliver Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] what has happened??? > tonight i checked the compression. 0, 0, 90, 120 Sorry, dude. Your head gasket is gone. You'll find it's breached between the #1 and #2 cylinders. Tight valves or a closed throttle will create low readings, but zero means there's a significant hole somewhere. Not going to be your rings, either. Could be you burned holes in both #1 and #2 pistons :-) Possible if your front carb is way lean but not likely. It's the head gasket. Check carefully for warpage and defects on the head itelf. If a U20 you need to check the TOP surface as well, or you risk the camshaft. I bought a spare head for my 1200 once, for $1, after the owner managed to burn a trough into the head between two cylinders. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 07:09:39 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] what has happened??? On further consideration, I agree. My compression was never zero. JimG --- On Tue, 9/16/08, John F Sandhoff wrote: From: John F Sandhoff Subject: Re: [Roadsters] what has happened??? To: "Oliver" Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:20 AM > tonight i checked the compression. 0, 0, 90, 120 Sorry, dude. Your head gasket is gone. You'll find it's breached between the #1 and #2 cylinders. Tight valves or a closed throttle will create low readings, but zero means there's a significant hole somewhere. Not going to be your rings, either. Could be you burned holes in both #1 and #2 pistons :-) Possible if your front carb is way lean but not likely. It's the head gasket. Check carefully for warpage and defects on the head itelf. If a U20 you need to check the TOP surface as well, or you risk the camshaft. I bought a spare head for my 1200 once, for $1, after the owner managed to burn a trough into the head between two cylinders. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 08:40:31 2008 From: RoadsterGB@aol.com To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:40:13 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Vern Colvin - RIP Greetings from England I received the note below today. Vern was Jack Scoville's engine builder and he is immortalised on the hood of Bob Klemme's ex-Scoville 2000. _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Vern.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Vern.htm) _http://1967datsun2000.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Mech_Vern_Colvin.306 173235_std.jpg_ (http://1967datsun2000.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Mech_Vern_Colvin.306173235_std.jpg) (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/vern.jpg) Rest in peace Vern Rob _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) ____________________________________ From: mctc@pacinfo.com To: RoadsterGB@aol.com Sent: 16/09/2008 01:35:39 GMT Daylight Time Subj: Vern Colvin -RIP Engine builder and racer Vern Colvin passed away Sept. 13 2008. Vern is mentioned in these pages with Jack Scoville and Al James. Vern was an innovator and competitor. He loved to go fast, then tried to go faster. Always to hole Vern....... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 12:33:00 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:31:02 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Needed tensioner Greetings gang, posting for my friend and fellow U-20 Bomber, Robb Pines, who is in need of a U-20 lower tensioner. For some reason his stuff is not posting to the list. If you have one for sale, he can be reached at support or Robb Pynes Eugene,OR 541-912-3386 Let's see if we can help him out! Greg Burrows ____________________________________________________________ Don't let your life go up in flames. Click here for the latest fire saftey products. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4vArEhOwHixYJQLiv0nOxFVh GU0hByyoGaVyLbjdzVrsYfsC/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 12:42:21 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:42:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Logo Search - Need help! Hi All I've been searching the internet in vain looking for a copy of the Datsun Logo. The one I'm looking for is the circle that's red with the blue band across the middle and the word Datsun on the blue band. More specifically, the Datsun/Blue Band wider than the circle (Similar to the ones on the SoCalROC or WyCROC logos as seen on 311s.org). Here's where it gets tricky. It needs to meet the following criteria: The image must be provided in 300 dpi and one of the following file formats: .eps, .ai, .psd, .png, .tif, .bmp or .gif. We cannot accept .jpg images because these are for web site viewing only. The .jpg image will produce poor quality blurry and grainy decals. Also, does anyone know the font for the "D" logo on the grille of a 2000? How about the font of the Datsun logo on the fender? I do have font creator software, but this would be SO MUCH EASIER!!! If you can provide me with the logos or fonts, I would greatly appreciate it. I do not intend them to be used for a business venture (unless folks like what I create, hehehe). Merely used for my own craftwork and "possibly" a paint scheme for Loreli. Thank you in advance! Matt Smith (70's and Sunny here in Chattanooga for the next several days!) And Loreli (She's a Silver 70 Solex who is going to be fed a couple tanks of gas this week/weekend!!!) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 12:49:24 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:49:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions 1. were they all aluminum? 2. what years are readily interchangeable with an early (low windshield) 67? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 13:10:03 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Oliver" , Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:09:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver" > 1. were they all aluminum? No. The '66 and some '67s were cast iron heads with SAE studs/threads. I believe some of the later '67 had non-smog aluminum heads with SAE studs/threads as well. After that the heads went aluminum and metric threads/studs. > > 2. what years are readily interchangeable with an early (low windshield) > 67? You can fit any of the 1600 heads on any of the blocks. I believe most of the 1500 heads (cast iron) will also fit, as well as H20 heads. Tho if you are going to use an H20 head, make sure it is not a forklift head! Also don't forget if you use a later head, you will be using a metric head with an SAE block, and don't mix up the bolts/nuts! Daryl 3 main SAE block with a Metric head! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 16:28:06 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:27:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] broken lug bolt I have a lug bolt that is just loose in the rear wheel. The nut is on it but the lug bolt just spins. Do I have any options besides trying to cut it? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 16:37:34 2008 From: Tim To: Tim , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:37:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] broken lug bolt--I got it Never mind. I got it off. I ruined the edge on my wood trim removing tool, but I can regrind that. Any one have an extra lug nut? This one wasn't an actual lug nut, just some nut. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Tim wrote: ============= I have a lug bolt that is just loose in the rear wheel. The nut is on it but the lug bolt just spins. Do I have any options besides trying to cut it? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 19:44:02 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:44:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 69 2000 on ebay $2650 (virginia) in case anyone's interested in a bargain 2000, I just listed a 69 2000 on ebay with a buy it now of $2650. good solid restorable car, look under 672000 as seller to find it. or try this link... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130255866422 Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 21:22:29 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Oliver'" , Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:17:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] what has happened??? A nice thing would be if the valves are too tight. Make sure they all have some clearance. Any possibility there was a clearance problem or an over revving and a valve bent? Is this a new rebuild, or was it running well for a while before the problems. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Oliver [mailto:sumton@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:57 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] what has happened??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNl5WWL_qI0 in the first video, taken almost a year ago, the car is running happily. it ran like that for a month or so as i started to assemble wiring, etc, then gradually got worse and worse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItPnNEhYb7E tonight i checked the compression. 0, 0, 90, 120 yeah. checked it twice. so, what do you suggest? i know that if i put oil in the cylinder, that will pinpoint it being rings. but is that likely? someone suggested head gasket. i checked the oil, and at least the dipstick oil is still honey colored and nice. anyone want to guide me on the next steps? thanks . . . ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 16 22:48:46 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:48:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Needed tensioner There's a new one at auction on eBay at present. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Needed tensioner > Greetings gang, posting for my friend and fellow U-20 Bomber, Robb Pines, > who > is in need of a U-20 lower tensioner. For some reason his stuff is not > posting to the list. If you have one for sale, he can be reached at > support or > Robb Pynes > Eugene,OR > > 541-912-3386 > > Let's see if we can help him out! > Greg Burrows > ____________________________________________________________ > Don't let your life go up in flames. Click here for the latest fire > saftey > products. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4vArEhOwHixYJQLiv0nOxFVh > GU0hByyoGaVyLbjdzVrsYfsC/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 04:53:50 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 3:53:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Lug nut Hi all. My line about "any one have an extra" was supposed to be a joke. I will definitely get new studs and lugs as these look less than good and also appear to be a mismatched group of whatever was on the bench when the new tires were put on it by the PO. Now if I could only get the bleeders loose. Come on liquid wrench. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 08:30:16 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Oliver'" Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:29:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions I have a 1600 aluminum non-smog head with metric studs in my garage right now, so there were at least a few made in that configuration also. No idea what block it came off of. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:10 PM To: Oliver; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver" > 1. were they all aluminum? No. The '66 and some '67s were cast iron heads with SAE studs/threads. I believe some of the later '67 had non-smog aluminum heads with SAE studs/threads as well. After that the heads went aluminum and metric threads/studs. > > 2. what years are readily interchangeable with an early (low windshield) > 67? You can fit any of the 1600 heads on any of the blocks. I believe most of the 1500 heads (cast iron) will also fit, as well as H20 heads. Tho if you are going to use an H20 head, make sure it is not a forklift head! Also don't forget if you use a later head, you will be using a metric head with an SAE block, and don't mix up the bolts/nuts! Daryl 3 main SAE block with a Metric head! Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 08:52:32 2008 From: "Lars Tungen" To: "'Oliver'" , Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:52:18 +0200 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions > 1. were they all aluminum? The aluminum head was introduced at engine number R-10606. The estimated car vin with that engine would be somewhere just below vin number SPL311-04000. Early cars (1966-67) with vin above SPL311-04000 should have the aluminum non-smog head. Lars Tungen Norway ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 08:53:55 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:52:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Logo Search - Thank you! Thank you Mark, and all that replied! I have used the one Mark Sedlack sent. You were correct. My plans include cutting vinyl for a decal or two, making a spray mask, and making a transfer for a wood carving/aluminum etching. I downloaded Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 (Trial version). Now I can convert the .eps file to darn near any format I want. So far I've made BMP, TIF, PSD, and JPG files. It's so much fun that I will purchase the full version when my 30 days runs out!!! I also downloaded Adobe Photo Shop (Trial), but it couldn't read the file you sent. I'm still working on finding a font for my own lettering, but that will come. Mark, do you remember the name of the TruType font you used? Thanks again! Matt Smith -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sedlack [mailto:msedlack@neo.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:03 PM To: Matthew A. Smith Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Logo Search - Need help! Matt, Try this one out. I did up the art a while back in Corel X3, building the graphic elements over a locked layer with an .tga image file. Even found a TruType font that was almost a dead match to the original. Attached is an EPS, but it sounds like you might be cutting vinyl either for decal or spray mask and I know a lot of cutters use Corel compatible formats. Let me know if it works and/or if you want the native .cdr file. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 09:09:33 2008 From: Brian Reynolds To: Roadster List Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] fuel pump part number? Does anyone know the Nissan part number for the fuel pump for a '68-'70 2000 U20 motor? Thanks, -Brian ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 09:12:23 2008 From: "Mark Sedlack" To: "Matthew A. Smith" , Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:12:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Logo Search - Thank you! Matt, The TT font was "Humanst 521 Cn BT" set as bold when creating the text. Not sure which software it came with, since I have a number of graphic and photo editing apps. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" ; Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: FW: [Roadsters] Logo Search - Thank you! > Thank you Mark, and all that replied! > I have used the one Mark Sedlack sent. You were correct. My plans include > cutting vinyl for a decal or two, making a spray mask, and making a > transfer > for a wood carving/aluminum etching. I downloaded Corel Paint Shop Pro > Photo > X2 (Trial version). Now I can convert the .eps file to darn near any > format > I want. So far I've made BMP, TIF, PSD, and JPG files. It's so much fun > that > I will purchase the full version when my 30 days runs out!!! I also > downloaded Adobe Photo Shop (Trial), but it couldn't read the file you > sent. > I'm still working on finding a font for my own lettering, but that will > come. Mark, do you remember the name of the TruType font you used? > Thanks again! > Matt Smith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sedlack [mailto:msedlack@neo.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:03 PM > To: Matthew A. Smith > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Logo Search - Need help! > > Matt, > Try this one out. I did up the art a while back in Corel X3, building the > graphic elements over a locked layer with an .tga image file. Even found > a > TruType font that was almost a dead match to the original. > Attached is an EPS, but it sounds like you might be cutting vinyl either > for > > decal or spray mask and I know a lot of cutters use Corel compatible > formats. Let me know if it works and/or if you want the native .cdr file. > Mark Sedlack > ZROC > Cuyahoga Falls OH > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 09:18:54 2008 From: "Lars Tungen" To: , "'Roadster List'" Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:16:40 +0200 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] fuel pump part number? > Does anyone know the Nissan part number for the fuel pump for > a '68-'70 2000 U20 motor? Part number 17010-25913 Key# 25 here: http://datsun311.partsmanual.net/311Parts/EngineFitting/FuelStrainerPump/tab id/182/Default.aspx Lars Tungen Norway ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 09:26:24 2008 From: "Mark Sedlack" To: , "'Oliver'" , Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:26:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions I can confirm that our '66 1600 VIN SPL311-03928 had an AL non-smog head. Mark Sedlack Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars Tungen" To: "'Oliver'" ; Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions >> 1. were they all aluminum? > > The aluminum head was introduced at engine number R-10606. The estimated > car > vin with that engine would be somewhere just below vin number > SPL311-04000. > Early cars (1966-67) with vin above SPL311-04000 should have the aluminum > non-smog head. > > Lars Tungen > Norway > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as msedlack@neo.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 09:43:30 2008 From: Kevin Koskela To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:43:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun - 67 1/2 for sale Unfortunately the time has come to sell the Datsun Roadster. The car is located in Northern California. You can see the ad here: http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?paId=288376402 Any questions let me know. Thanks, Kevin ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 10:41:26 2008 From: "Robbie Harrison" To: "Matthew A. Smith" , Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:40:59 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Logo Search - Thank you! The font can be downloaded from here for free. Mark, thanks for doing the hard part and figuring out which font matches. http://font-cat.com/font-en-4975.html Robbie Harrison 68 2000 "Midori" -------Original Message------- From: Mark Sedlack Date: 9/17/2008 11:18:03 AM To: Matthew A. Smith; 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Logo Search - Thank you! Matt, The TT font was "Humanst 521 Cn BT" set as bold when creating the text. Not sure which software it came with, since I have a number of graphic and photo editing apps. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" ; Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: FW: [Roadsters] Logo Search - Thank you! > Thank you Mark, and all that replied! > I have used the one Mark Sedlack sent. You were correct. My plans include > cutting vinyl for a decal or two, making a spray mask, and making a > transfer > for a wood carving/aluminum etching. I downloaded Corel Paint Shop Pro > Photo > X2 (Trial version). Now I can convert the .eps file to darn near any > format > I want. So far I've made BMP, TIF, PSD, and JPG files. It's so much fun > that > I will purchase the full version when my 30 days runs out!!! I also > downloaded Adobe Photo Shop (Trial), but it couldn't read the file you > sent. > I'm still working on finding a font for my own lettering, but that will > come. Mark, do you remember the name of the TruType font you used? > Thanks again! > Matt Smith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sedlack [mailto:msedlack@neo.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:03 PM > To: Matthew A. Smith > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Logo Search - Need help! > > Matt, > Try this one out. I did up the art a while back in Corel X3, building the > graphic elements over a locked layer with an .tga image file. Even found > a > TruType font that was almost a dead match to the original. > Attached is an EPS, but it sounds like you might be cutting vinyl either > for > > decal or spray mask and I know a lot of cutters use Corel compatible > formats. Let me know if it works and/or if you want the native .cdr file. > Mark Sedlack > ZROC > Cuyahoga Falls OH > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of imstp_animation_butterflies_en_020908.gif] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 11:20:23 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: matthews517@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:19:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Logo Search - Thank you! Matt, Try GraphicConverter if you have a Mac. Excellent, cheap. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Matthew A. Smith To: 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' ; msedlack@neo.rr.com Sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 7:52 am Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Logo Search - Thank you! Thank you Mark, and all that replied! I have used the one Mark Sedlack sent. You were correct. My plans include cutting vinyl for a decal or two, making a spray mask, and making a transfer for a wood carving/aluminum etching. I downloaded Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 (Trial version). Now I can convert the .eps file to darn near any format I want. So far I've made BMP, TIF, PSD, and JPG files. It's so much fun that I will purchase the full version when my 30 days runs out!!! I also downloaded Adobe Photo Shop (Trial), but it couldn't read the file you sent. I'm still working on finding a font for my own lettering, but that will come. Mark, do you remember the name of the TruType font you used? Thanks again! Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 19:16:02 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: , Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:15:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Logo Search - Thank you! Thank you Linda, Corel works great. I'm a PC guy, not Mac. Matt _____ From: ljordan704@netscape.net [mailto:ljordan704@netscape.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:20 PM To: matthews517@earthlink.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Logo Search - Thank you! Matt, Try GraphicConverter if you have a Mac. Excellent, cheap. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Matthew A. Smith To: 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' ; msedlack@neo.rr.com Sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 7:52 am Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Logo Search - Thank you! Thank you Mark, and all that replied! I have used the one Mark Sedlack sent. You were correct. My plans include cutting vinyl for a decal or two, making a spray mask, and making a transfer for a wood carving/aluminum etching. I downloaded Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 (Trial version). Now I can convert the .eps file to darn near any format I want. So far I've made BMP, TIF, PSD, and JPG files. It's so much fun that I will purchase the full version when my 30 days runs out!!! I also downloaded Adobe Photo Shop (Trial), but it couldn't read the file you sent. I'm still working on finding a font for my own lettering, but that will come. Mark, do you remember the name of the TruType font you used? Thanks again! Matt Smith _____ Looking for spoilers and reviews on the new TV season? Get AOL's ultimate guide to fall TV. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 17 21:44:00 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:43:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SU 67.5 2000 on ebay All, Mike Young has a 67.5 2000 on ebay right now for 24.5k. Seems like a nice car. I like the fact that it is an SU car. I owned a 67.5 2000 with solexes and although the speed and performance is fun, the SUs (in my opinion) are better drivers for someone who just wants to drive around town and enjoy themselves. My 66 1600 is of course no where near as fast as a two liter with solexes but it has enough performance for me and is a smoother ride. Anyhow, here it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___67-5-Datsun-2000-Roadster_W0QQit emZ300259092530QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300 259092530&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0 .m245 Hope the link works! Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 Currently regaining its cool (radiator in the shop) _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 00:12:16 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , "'Oliver'" , Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:11:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions What he said. My '66 SPL311-05917/R-15834 met Lars' criteria. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars Tungen" To: "'Oliver'" ; Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions >> 1. were they all aluminum? > > The aluminum head was introduced at engine number R-10606. The estimated > car > vin with that engine would be somewhere just below vin number > SPL311-04000. > Early cars (1966-67) with vin above SPL311-04000 should have the aluminum > non-smog head. > > Lars Tungen > Norway > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 00:28:48 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Steve Ehlers" , "Walter Peterson" Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:28:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spark Plug Seat? Just going over my R16 head and notice that the end of the spark plug is about .030" to .040" inside the threaded chase at the combustion chamber. On the sparkplug itself, there is another .030"-.040" before the threads start......... Would it be beneficial for power and efficiency, albiet small, to machine the seat in the head to get the spark that .060" - .080" further into, and closer to, the center of the combustion chamber? It isn't till the threads start that it will make a difference as far as heat dissipation into the head, so the same contact area will be there for that...... Just throwing out ideas....... Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 00:41:54 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: , "'Oliver'" , Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:41:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions Thanks for the clarification Lars! I'll have to update my books with that. Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars Tungen" >> 1. were they all aluminum? > > The aluminum head was introduced at engine number R-10606. The estimated > car > vin with that engine would be somewhere just below vin number > SPL311-04000. > Early cars (1966-67) with vin above SPL311-04000 should have the aluminum > non-smog head. > > Lars Tungen > Norway ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 11:32:03 2008 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Steve Ehlers'" Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:31:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plug Seat? Don't do it! The water jacket is too close and you could cause a leak. This leak would require welding, re-machining the plug seat & new plug threads. Yikes! Putting it back can be done but it takes an artist to do it. In the racer world we added plug washers to space the plug out to minimize flame interference and clock the ground part of the plug to optimize spark exposure. Also we used a plug that was flush with the chamber wall, no protrusion like the BP6ES. Lastly, you wouldn't want to get the plug too close to the piston due to heat & possible interference. Most of the "How to modify your engine" books cover this. Good question though. Cheers Walt From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith@dccnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:29 PM To: Steve Ehlers; Walter Peterson; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Spark Plug Seat? Just going over my R16 head and notice that the end of the spark plug is about .030" to .040" inside the threaded chase at the combustion chamber. On the sparkplug itself, there is another .030"-.040" before the threads start......... Would it be beneficial for power and efficiency, albiet small, to machine the seat in the head to get the spark that .060" - .080" further into, and closer to, the center of the combustion chamber? It isn't till the threads start that it will make a difference as far as heat dissipation into the head, so the same contact area will be there for that...... Just throwing out ideas....... Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 15:46:18 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:46:10 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions Mine has rust, so I'm pretty sure it's iron. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > What he said. My '66 SPL311-05917/R-15834 met Lars' criteria. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lars Tungen" > To: "'Oliver'" ; > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions > > > >> 1. were they all aluminum? > > > > The aluminum head was introduced at engine number R-10606. The estimated > > car > > vin with that engine would be somewhere just below vin number > > SPL311-04000. > > Early cars (1966-67) with vin above SPL311-04000 should have the aluminum > > non-smog head. > > > > Lars Tungen > > Norway > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 16:04:23 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Walter Peterson" , "'Steve Ehlers'" Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:04:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plug Seat? >Don't do it! The water jacket is too close and you could cause a leak. This leak would require welding, re-machining the plug seat & new plug threads. Yikes! Putting it back can be done but it takes an artist to do it.< Looking at the head and into the waterjacket area, there appears to be plenty of material for machining.........?? >In the racer world we added plug washers to space the plug out to minimize flame interference and clock the ground part of the plug to optimize spark exposure. Also we used a plug that was flush with the chamber wall, no protrusion like the BP6ES.< I believe the original plug recommended for the roadster was the B6ES, I understood part of the reason for going to the BP6ES was to get the actual spark further into the combustion chamber, ie as close to centre of the chamber as possible, exposing the spark to more of the fuel mixture. Yes, flame travel interference is a consideration, but since the plug is initiating the spark, I would have assumed the plug would be thoroughly engulfed in the flame long before this flame reached the other side of the combustion chamber..........?? Yep, I've read about plug indexing to have the spark plug ground "strap" out of the way as much as possible....and that it worked....But, I'm thinking that high energy ignition systems, large spark gaps, and specialty spark plugs have got us past that nescessity....... >Lastly, you wouldn't want to get the plug too close to the piston due to heat & possible interference.< With the gasket the highest portion of the plug (if the ground strap ever ended up that way) is about .375" away on my head which is 3.20 inches thick, lots of clearance for my flat top pistons, and it wouldn't be a problem for the stock domed pistons either.......Custom racing pistons however....???? >Most of the "How to modify your engine" books cover this. Good question though.< >Cheers Walt< Thanks for the comments and ideas, I'm off to the library to check out some of those books!! Daryl Not happy with stock! From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith@dccnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:29 PM To: Steve Ehlers; Walter Peterson; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Spark Plug Seat? Just going over my R16 head and notice that the end of the spark plug is about .030" to .040" inside the threaded chase at the combustion chamber. On the sparkplug itself, there is another .030"-.040" before the threads start......... Would it be beneficial for power and efficiency, albiet small, to machine the seat in the head to get the spark that .060" - .080" further into, and closer to, the center of the combustion chamber? It isn't till the threads start that it will make a difference as far as heat dissipation into the head, so the same contact area will be there for that...... Just throwing out ideas....... Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 16:22:49 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:22:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions Isn't it possible to tell if it is aluminum or iron from the outside, without removing and without referring to the engine numbers, since the head could have been changed anyway? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 2:46 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions Mine has rust, so I'm pretty sure it's iron. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > What he said. My '66 SPL311-05917/R-15834 met Lars' criteria. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lars Tungen" > To: "'Oliver'" ; > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions > > > >> 1. were they all aluminum? > > > > The aluminum head was introduced at engine number R-10606. The estimated > > car > > vin with that engine would be somewhere just below vin number > > SPL311-04000. > > Early cars (1966-67) with vin above SPL311-04000 should have the aluminum > > non-smog head. > > > > Lars Tungen > > Norway > > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 18:09:05 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:08:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions > Isn't it possible to tell if it is aluminum or iron from the outside...? Sure. A magnet will stick to an iron head, not to aluminum. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 18:11:00 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: ljordan704@netscape.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:12:14 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions Magnet. also aluminum doesn't rust. keith In a message dated 9/18/2008 3:23:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ljordan704@netscape.net writes: Isn't it possible to tell if it is aluminum or iron from the outside, without removing and without referring to the engine numbers, since the head could have been changed anyway? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 2:46 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions Mine has rust, so I'm pretty sure it's iron. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > What he said. My '66 SPL311-05917/R-15834 met Lars' criteria. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lars Tungen" > To: "'Oliver'" ; > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions > > > >> 1. were they all aluminum? > > > > The aluminum head was introduced at engine number R-10606. The estimated > > car > > vin with that engine would be somewhere just below vin number > > SPL311-04000. > > Early cars (1966-67) with vin above SPL311-04000 should have the aluminum > > non-smog head. > > > > Lars Tungen > > Norway > > ________________________________________ You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 18:14:47 2008 From: "dave" To: Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:12:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plug Seat? If you want to reposition the plug tip, it would be easier to get plugs with a different "reach", the projection into the cylinder. As Walt mentioned, piston clearance is a biggie. Remember, "If you play, you must clay". A projected tip, hot spark and out further into the chamber might be good, but might only show up on a dyno, and Walt mentioned they go the other way. I would go big spark, wide gap, with or without an MSD, and the position of the plug won't matter as much. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Walter Peterson [mailto:Walter.Peterson@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:31 PM To: 'Daryl Smith'; 'Steve Ehlers'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spark Plug Seat? Don't do it! The water jacket is too close and you could cause a leak. This leak would require welding, re-machining the plug seat & new plug threads. Yikes! Putting it back can be done but it takes an artist to do it. In the racer world we added plug washers to space the plug out to minimize flame interference and clock the ground part of the plug to optimize spark exposure. Also we used a plug that was flush with the chamber wall, no protrusion like the BP6ES. Lastly, you wouldn't want to get the plug too close to the piston due to heat & possible interference. Most of the "How to modify your engine" books cover this. Good question though. Cheers Walt From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith@dccnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:29 PM To: Steve Ehlers; Walter Peterson; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Spark Plug Seat? Just going over my R16 head and notice that the end of the spark plug is about .030" to .040" inside the threaded chase at the combustion chamber. On the sparkplug itself, there is another .030"-.040" before the threads start......... Would it be beneficial for power and efficiency, albiet small, to machine the seat in the head to get the spark that .060" - .080" further into, and closer to, the center of the combustion chamber? It isn't till the threads start that it will make a difference as far as heat dissipation into the head, so the same contact area will be there for that...... Just throwing out ideas....... Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 19:53:48 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:52:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions A magnet ,of course. Linda -----Original Message----- From: John F Sandhoff To: ljordan704@netscape.net Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 5:08 pm Subject: Re: datsun 1600 head questions > Isn't it possible to tell if it is aluminum or iron from the outside...? Sure. A magnet will stick to an iron head, not to aluminum. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 18 20:45:33 2008 From: Bill Cole To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:40:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions If I remember right doesn't the iron head have a 3 bolt water tower, while all R-16 aluminum heads either S.A.E. or Metric have 2 bolts or studs holding the tower to the head. That would be one way to visually tell if you didn't have your magnet with you. My 67 spl 03595 with it's 3 main #9677 engine has a cast head. My old reliable R-1305 engine already had an SAE aluminum head placed on it when I bought it for $20 back in the 80's, it is still running in a 68 spl that is driven daily by my brother. Bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 02:01:47 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" , "Bill Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:01:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions I think you're right, and that would probably be the easiest way to tell!! Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cole" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions > If I remember right doesn't the iron head have a 3 bolt water tower, > while all R-16 aluminum heads either S.A.E. or Metric have 2 bolts or > studs holding the tower to the head. That would be one way to visually > tell if you didn't have your magnet with you. My 67 spl 03595 with it's > 3 main #9677 engine has a cast head. My old reliable R-1305 engine > already had an SAE aluminum head placed on it when I bought it for $20 > back in the 80's, it is still running in a 68 spl that is driven daily > by my brother. Bill > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 09:59:25 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:58:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Fall Entertainment Too good not to share. Pete _____ From: bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Chris Saulnier Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 6:48 AM To: Bluebirds Subject: OT - Fall Entertainment I have a weird, entertaining tradition I enjoy annually, and I figure I'd share it with my fellow Dimers, as gearhead types usually appreciate this type of humor... If you are in a Wal-Mart or Supermarket within the next week, standing in the check-out lane, find a middle aged woman and casually mention with enough volume for others to hear, the following fact... "Huh!, only 97 days 'til Christmas" This will often result in a firestorm of panic driven exclamations of what needs to be done, horrors of visiting relatives, wonderings of how to pay for it all, etc... One little utterance can lead to minutes of raging entertainment! This works especially well if there are several women clumped together, where cross pollination of the panic can occur, and if there happens to be young children around they can add a wonderfully entertaining catalyst to the mix... As of tomorrow, it's 96 days 'til Christmas... I know, I'm a little sick ;>) Chris of Maine "Finally! Friday!!!" '72 4dr - Colin Chapman Style (LZ22) '71 wagon - project (V8) MOG#7 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 11:05:10 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:04:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT - Fall Entertainment What a fun idea, I often exclaim it is X days to Christmas just to hear my co workers grumble and duck when they throw things at me, but this is a new level. The projectiles are because all my Christmas shopping is done and wrapped and stashed, 2 kids, 4 grand daughters, and a host of relatives. It has been 15 years, but 25 years of retail management and I am Christmas ready before Oct 1st. Spike was John's gift 3 yrs ago, major happy surprise! Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Fall Entertainment > Too good not to share. > > Pete > > _____ > > From: bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com > [mailto:bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Chris > Saulnier > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 6:48 AM > To: Bluebirds > Subject: OT - Fall Entertainment > > > I have a weird, entertaining tradition I enjoy annually, and I figure I'd > share it with my fellow Dimers, as gearhead types usually appreciate this > type of humor... > > If you are in a Wal-Mart or Supermarket within the next week, standing in > the check-out lane, find a middle aged woman and casually mention with > enough volume for others to hear, the following fact... > > "Huh!, only 97 days 'til Christmas" > > This will often result in a firestorm of panic driven exclamations of what > needs to be done, horrors of visiting relatives, wonderings of how to pay > for it all, etc... One little utterance can lead to minutes of raging > entertainment! > > This works especially well if there are several women clumped together, > where cross pollination of the panic can occur, and if there happens to be > young children around they can add a wonderfully entertaining catalyst to > the mix... > > As of tomorrow, it's 96 days 'til Christmas... > > > I know, I'm a little sick ;>) > > > > Chris of Maine "Finally! Friday!!!" > > '72 4dr - Colin Chapman Style (LZ22) > '71 wagon - project (V8) > MOG#7 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jklingman@stny.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 12:34:12 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:33:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SOCal Speed - September 27 - Coronado SOCAL ROC Members Eliza still not running - looking to ride shotgun on Sunday Any one going with a spare seat? Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 14:15:51 2008 From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:15:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Hi All! Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would through this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many questions that have already been asked. Thanks in advance. Rich ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 14:28:45 2008 From: "Matt Jacquet" To: "Schlegel, Richard" , Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:32:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Rich, Rule 1 Roadster Restoration Handbook If you're able to run the car NOW... drive it for at least six months before you convert it into boxes of Roadster parts. Otherwise your first Roadster maybe your last Roadster that then shows up on Ebay.."Project Car 90% done, invested a boat load, my loss is your gain and the BIGGIE--- wife says it's gotta go!!" :) good luck! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:15 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Hi All! Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would through this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many questions that have already been asked. Thanks in advance. Rich You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 14:43:27 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:36:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns at MidOhio October 1st, the national Z convention being held in Ohio, will be at MidOhio race track. Details for joining the whole week of Z stuff is at www.clevelandrockz.com. But the adventure at MidOhio is free to spectators, like roadsters! I will try to be there somewhere with my '69 1600. Size of the crowd will probably depend on the weather. Wouldn't mind seeing a few roadsters there. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 14:43:48 2008 From: "reblues@gmail" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:36:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster I second what Matt said. Get it running with a minimum of tear down. Then decide what's next. If you aren't already, get on www.311s.org. It is another great resource. Enjoy, Richard Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jacquet" To: "Schlegel, Richard" ; Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > Rich, > > Rule 1 Roadster Restoration Handbook > If you're able to run the car NOW... drive it for at least six months > before > you convert it into boxes of Roadster parts. Otherwise your first Roadster > maybe your last Roadster that then shows up on Ebay.."Project Car 90% > done, > invested a boat load, my loss is your gain and the BIGGIE--- wife says > it's > gotta go!!" :) > > good luck! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:15 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > > > Hi All! > Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How > about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would > through > this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many > questions that have already been asked. > Thanks in advance. > Rich > You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as reblues@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 14:48:21 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:47:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster You might try restoring it piece by piece without tearing everything apart as Matt pointed out. It may seem less efficient but you still can drive, or at least drive sooner. Linda piece by piece -----Original Message----- From: Matt Jacquet To: Schlegel, Richard ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 1:32 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Rich, Rule 1 Roadster Restoration Handbook If you're able to run the car NOW... drive it for at least six months before you convert it into boxes of Roadster parts. Otherwise your first Roadster maybe your last Roadster that then shows up on Ebay.."Project Car 90% done, invested a boat load, my loss is your gain and the BIGGIE--- wife says it's gotta go!!" :) good luck! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:15 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Hi All! Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would through this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many questions that have already been asked. Thanks in advance. Rich You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 14:58:47 2008 From: "Eric Gillis" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:57:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Make that 3x what the Matt said... Put in some miles on the car (if it is running) if not, find out if it will run with minimal input. Totally find out what a blast the car is, then take it off the road for a restore, if you dare. I have had mine off the road for 4 months (just an engine rebuild) and miss it every weekend. But then I jump in the 240z turbo, and I seem to not mind until next weekend... Maybe for next year's Polar Bear Run... Take PLENTY of picture before and during tear down, that is probably the most ubiquitous piece of advice for any rebuild/restore. Have fun, Eric G ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us@autox.team.net on behalf of reblues@gmail Sent: Fri 9/19/2008 1:36 PM To: Datsun Roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster I second what Matt said. Get it running with a minimum of tear down. Then decide what's next. If you aren't already, get on www.311s.org. It is another great resource. Enjoy, Richard Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jacquet" To: "Schlegel, Richard" ; Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > Rich, > > Rule 1 Roadster Restoration Handbook > If you're able to run the car NOW... drive it for at least six months > before > you convert it into boxes of Roadster parts. Otherwise your first Roadster > maybe your last Roadster that then shows up on Ebay.."Project Car 90% > done, > invested a boat load, my loss is your gain and the BIGGIE--- wife says > it's > gotta go!!" :) > > good luck! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:15 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > > > Hi All! > Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How > about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would > through > this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many > questions that have already been asked. > Thanks in advance. > Rich > You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as reblues@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as egillis@ceres.k12.ca.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 15:29:34 2008 From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: 'Matt Jacquet' , Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:23:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Thanks Matt I looked on the internet but could not find anything on this book. Have you seen the guy that sells the manuals on CD on eBay? Anybody buy ever one of these? Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matt Jacquet [mailto:matt@vander-bend.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:32 PM To: Schlegel, Richard; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Rich, Rule 1 Roadster Restoration Handbook If you're able to run the car NOW... drive it for at least six months before you convert it into boxes of Roadster parts. Otherwise your first Roadster maybe your last Roadster that then shows up on Ebay.."Project Car 90% done, invested a boat load, my loss is your gain and the BIGGIE--- wife says it's gotta go!!" :) good luck! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:15 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Hi All! Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would through this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many questions that have already been asked. Thanks in advance. Rich You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 15:30:25 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Schlegel, Richard" , Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:28:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster When I purchased Mr. Hyde he had been stored for 15 years and did not run. NEW master cylinders and real slave cylinders, along with rebuilding the front calipers made him stop. A NEW clutch master and slave allowed the clutch to work. I found trying to rebuild these parts was a waste of time and money. Then I started the engine for the first time and spun a bearing within about 5 minutes. The parts car provided another engine after installing an upper chain, clutch, and transmission that is still there 6 years later. I have no clue about the condition of the original tranny. DON'T FORGET TO PRIME THE OIL SYSTEM BEFORE YOU TRY TO START THE ENGINE IF IT HAS BEEN SITTING. If the engine has been sitting without running make sure the engine is free to turn easily when you put a wrench or socket on the crank nut. If it is tight (BTDT - see above) you will have bigger problems shortly after the engine starts. After all of that I was able to drive Mr. Hyde for the first time. I put about 100 miles on before winter set in. Then I removed the head to change the head gasket and stop an oil leak. That project wound up including a heater core, sending the carbs to Keith Williams, and several other minor things taken care of while the head was out of the way. If you can store a parts car it is well worth the investment. Since then he has been mostly reliable and a ball to drive while I slowly work on this or that. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:15 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Hi All! Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would through this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many questions that have already been asked. Thanks in advance. Rich ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 15:46:05 2008 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: "Schlegel, Richard" , Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:46:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster There are lots of guys posting photos of there restorations. Definitely drive it for a bit to see how fun it is, and then decide on a gameplan for fixing. www.311s.org is a great site for references. It has many links and members that will help you out with even the simplest of questions. Good luck, and post some photos!! John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > Hi All! > Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How > about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would > through > this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many > questions that have already been asked. > Thanks in advance. > Rich ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 15:49:03 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: "'JohnnyRoadster'" , "'Schlegel, Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:48:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Resto links: http://www.mydatsunroadster.com// http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ http://shiftco.com/features/the_rat/index.html http://brooks-planck.org/DatsunDiaries/ http://www.billengelhardt.com/roadster/ http://members.cox.net/garytew/index.html http://www.311s.org/restoration/roadster.html -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JohnnyRoadster Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:46 PM To: Schlegel, Richard; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster There are lots of guys posting photos of there restorations. Definitely drive it for a bit to see how fun it is, and then decide on a gameplan for fixing. www.311s.org is a great site for references. It has many links and members that will help you out with even the simplest of questions. Good luck, and post some photos!! John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > Hi All! > Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How > about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would > through > this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many > questions that have already been asked. > Thanks in advance. > Rich You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin@gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 16:01:38 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: "'Schlegel, Richard'" , Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:01:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Look what you did Matt! ;o) Nobody told me we had a damn book of rules. Hehehehe Rich, Before you go jumping off the deep end of the pool, thoroughly click and browse your way around the 311s site as it will lead you to many answers and other sites. 311s Proper http://311s.org/ 311s Bulletin Board http://311s.org/phpBB3/index.php 311s Tech WIKI http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php Go here for the technical manuals. http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.Manuals Jim SlowBoy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+slowboy=cox.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+slowboy=cox.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:23 PM To: 'Matt Jacquet'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Thanks Matt I looked on the internet but could not find anything on this book. Have you seen the guy that sells the manuals on CD on eBay? Anybody buy ever one of these? Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matt Jacquet [mailto:matt@vander-bend.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:32 PM To: Schlegel, Richard; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Rich, Rule 1 Roadster Restoration Handbook If you're able to run the car NOW... drive it for at least six months before you convert it into boxes of Roadster parts. Otherwise your first Roadster maybe your last Roadster that then shows up on Ebay.."Project Car 90% done, invested a boat load, my loss is your gain and the BIGGIE--- wife says it's gotta go!!" :) good luck! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:15 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Hi All! Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would through this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many questions that have already been asked. Thanks in advance. Rich ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 18:01:32 2008 From: "Donovan " To: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:01:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Seems like Rich beat me to it. My roadster has been stored in my garage for the last several years. I drove it until I couldn't drive it anymore. Now I am all excited about restoring it, especially after joining this group and seeing all the nice looking roadsters out there. I am not sure what year my roadster is, but I think it is a 1969 Datsun 2000. It needs body, interior and some engine work. I did not store it on blocks and neglected to start it regularly. So who knows what I am in for. Where do I start? Ideally, I would love to have someone start working on in the fall or winter months. I live in Toronto Canada. Does anyone know of a good auto body shop out here? Would any of you recommend letting someone work on it on the side? I mean someone who works fulltime but has spare time to work on it. Or should I just send it to a body shop? I would love to have it on the road my Spring 2009. Your feedback would be appreciated. I have attached an old photo to give you an idea of what it used to look like unrestored. Donovan -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+dbranch=rogers.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+dbranch=rogers.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard Sent: 2008-09-19 16:15 To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Hi All! Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would through this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many questions that have already been asked. Thanks in advance. Rich You are subscribed as dbranch@rogers.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1681 - Release Date: 2008-09-19 15:54 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of 69 Roadstar.jpg] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 18:24:57 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:25:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Donovan, This mailing list, like most, does not allow attachments. You might consider adding to the Roadster Registry on 311s.org. You think it's a '69? What does the VIN plate and/or title say? Primary spotting feature for '69's are tear drop-shaped front marker lights. Here's a pic of a '69 2000: "I am all excited about restoring it." Restoring a car means different things to different people from beater to daily driver to concours winner. Different levels of time, commitment and money, especially if you're paying someone to do the work. "I drove it until I couldn't drive it anymore" means what exactly? Might tell you where to start. "It needs body, interior and some engine work." Personally, I'd start by getting it running. Welcome. Pete ------------------ 1966 SPL311 1600 1966 WPL411 L20b -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Donovan Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:01 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Seems like Rich beat me to it. My roadster has been stored in my garage for the last several years. I drove it until I couldn't drive it anymore. Now I am all excited about restoring it, especially after joining this group and seeing all the nice looking roadsters out there. I am not sure what year my roadster is, but I think it is a 1969 Datsun 2000. It needs body, interior and some engine work. I did not store it on blocks and neglected to start it regularly. So who knows what I am in for. Where do I start? Ideally, I would love to have someone start working on in the fall or winter months. I live in Toronto Canada. Does anyone know of a good auto body shop out here? Would any of you recommend letting someone work on it on the side? I mean someone who works fulltime but has spare time to work on it. Or should I just send it to a body shop? I would love to have it on the road my Spring 2009. Your feedback would be appreciated. I have attached an old photo to give you an idea of what it used to look like unrestored. Donovan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 19:24:30 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:24:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster You might want to go to 311 and try to find owners who live near you, and there are a few as I recall. I shipped some parts up there. Another owner can help immensely in helping you work on your own car, so that you have some fun and don't go broke, and they may have spare parts too. Post in the Introduction section on 311 and ask for anyone in your area to send you a PM, private message to hook up with some Roadster buddies. Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 19:33:27 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Schlegel, Richard" , "'Matt Jacquet'" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:33:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Rich, I bought one of the CDs. It's better than nothing if you don't have a paper manual, but the image quality is mediocre. I don't use the CD much because I have a Clymer manual and a photocopy of a dealer's parts manual, and there isn't much on the CD that is not in those two documents. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: "'Matt Jacquet'" ; Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > Thanks Matt > I looked on the internet but could not find anything on this book. Have > you > seen the guy that sells the manuals on CD on eBay? Anybody buy ever one of > these? > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Jacquet [mailto:matt@vander-bend.com] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:32 PM > To: Schlegel, Richard; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > > Rich, > > Rule 1 Roadster Restoration Handbook > If you're able to run the car NOW... drive it for at least six months > before > you convert it into boxes of Roadster parts. Otherwise your first Roadster > maybe your last Roadster that then shows up on Ebay.."Project Car 90% > done, > invested a boat load, my loss is your gain and the BIGGIE--- wife says > it's > gotta go!!" :) > > good luck! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com@autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Schlegel, Richard > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:15 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > > > Hi All! > Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How > about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would > through > this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many > questions that have already been asked. > Thanks in advance. > Rich > You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 20:27:11 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:27:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] In Cylinder Video.......! Neat video, something that you wouldn't normally see! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5815350492893860613&hl=en Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 20:55:11 2008 From: "Donovan " To: "'Datsun List'" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:55:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Pete, Linda and Fred, Thanks a lot for the information. I will definitely follow-up with your suggestions. Pete, I could have kept driving the car as there was nothing wrong with the engine, but the shocks needed replacing and the rust on the car was getting worse so I stored it until I could save up enough money to do the interior and bodywork. I have the ownership around here somewhere. My car does not have the tear-drop shape marker lights but it could have been removed by a previous owner as the car has apparently been painted a different color. I don't want a showroom condition car because I don't have the money for that. My idea of restoring is getting rid of the rust, re-chroming, a nice paint job, re-upholstering and having an engine that has some pep in it. There nothing like driving a roadster on an tree-lined country road. I won't even attempt to start the car until I do what some of you have already recommended. Thanks again. Donovan -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+dbranch=rogers.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+dbranch=rogers.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: 2008-09-19 20:26 To: Datsun List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Donovan, This mailing list, like most, does not allow attachments. You might consider adding to the Roadster Registry on 311s.org. You think it's a '69? What does the VIN plate and/or title say? Primary spotting feature for '69's are tear drop-shaped front marker lights. Here's a pic of a '69 2000: "I am all excited about restoring it." Restoring a car means different things to different people from beater to daily driver to concours winner. Different levels of time, commitment and money, especially if you're paying someone to do the work. "I drove it until I couldn't drive it anymore" means what exactly? Might tell you where to start. "It needs body, interior and some engine work." Personally, I'd start by getting it running. Welcome. Pete ------------------ 1966 SPL311 1600 1966 WPL411 L20b ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 19 22:09:02 2008 From: "dave" To: " Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:06:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Rich, where are you located? Might be someone local who could be a great source. I agree on fix and drive. I would do as people say, enjoy the car, collect the needed parts and then dig in. Never know, you also might find the second roadster and not need to do a restore. Forgot to mention, there is ALWAYS more than one. I had 4 this year, looking at the 5th. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: JohnnyRoadster [mailto:JohnnyRoadster@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:46 PM To: Schlegel, Richard; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster There are lots of guys posting photos of there restorations. Definitely drive it for a bit to see how fun it is, and then decide on a gameplan for fixing. www.311s.org is a great site for references. It has many links and members that will help you out with even the simplest of questions. Good luck, and post some photos!! John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster > Hi All! > Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How > about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would > through > this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many > questions that have already been asked. > Thanks in advance. > Rich ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 20 11:27:29 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:27:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Cam install question..... Ok, so I go to install the cam sprocket, but there's 2 dots side by side on the sprocket.......Which one do I line up with? Thanks Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 20 11:36:07 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: Daryl Smith Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] In Cylinder Video.......! That is soooo coooooll!! Thank you for sharing this! Patti --- On Fri, 9/19/08, Daryl Smith wrote: From: Daryl Smith Subject: [Roadsters] In Cylinder Video.......! To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 7:27 PM Neat video, something that you wouldn't normally see! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5815350492893860613&hl=en Daryl You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 20 20:02:49 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Schlegel, Richard'" , Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:33:06 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Hi Rich, Work in progress at: - http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/117 Unfortunately, the car was only a roller when I got it so I have yet to drive it. Hopefully it will get to the Paint Shop this coming southern summer. We have an event here in Adelaide called the Bay to Birdwood, world famous car rally, http://www.baytobirdwood.com.au/ I desperately want to take part in it in Sept. 2009. It only accepts "young " cars every 2 years, this year is Vintage. If I could get my bum into gear I should be able to do it ; ) Feel free to ask away, nothing is too silly, the cars are quite unique in some areas. Anyhoo, good luck with you planned restoration, remember to do a quality job first up. If you don't, you will regret it and probably do it all over again later on. Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia "Hi All! Anybody have any good steps to follow on restoring a datsun roadster? How about pictures or websites? This will be my first and thought I would through this out to all the experience on this list. I hope I don't ask too many questions that have already been asked. Thanks in advance. Rich" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 20 20:45:10 2008 From: "speeddemonrs" To: Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:44:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] WOW - Up and running! Hi all - This is my first post to the group, and have been watching you all for some time learning all I can. I picked up my first Roadster 2 weeks ago. 1966 1600. The owner told me that it has been sitting for 4 years (garaged, thankfully) and that an "electrical issue" forced it off the road back then and has been sitting ever since. When she told me she was having electrical problems, she continued on telling me that she had an entire new wiring harness installed, and things were OK - so she though. After she was ready to go on a trip, the car died, wouldn't start, and that was it 4 years ago. Months ago, I didn't even know these cars even really existed. I was looking for a new hobby, and thought that I would like to take on a project car. I went through thinking that I was going to be building up a Corvair, then thought if I were going to do that, it should be a convertible. Then I opened my thoughts and did a search for older convertibles - and fell in love with the Datsun! I was looking for months and found this car in Kansas. As I am in Arizona ~ I had a need to leave it there for a few months prior to picking it up. The owner didn't mind as it had bees sitting there for the last 4 years, what would another few months hurt. I have only had it for 2 weeks, and last night I started diving into it. Drained all the gas, reversed pressurized the lines to clear those, changed the oil, checked the coolant, cleaned the plugs, lubed the cylinders and bought a new battery. Today, I put some new gas in it, pressurizes the tank to force the fuel through to the engine (worked really well!) turned it over to check the spark. Things looked good!! I then tried to start it. after a dramatic few turn IT FIRED UP with just a bit of spitting and sputtering!! Mind you ~ I didn't clean or clear the carbs, or make any adjustments to the timing at all. I could believe it!!! After it warmed up a bit, the roughness went away and it purred pretty good. Now I know I need to do some tuning and such, but am VERY excited that it is ALIVE!! I immediately took it off the jack stands to see if it would drive. YES!! No real issues. The brakes were rather mushy - but the ride was smooth, the clutch was good, and the transmission overall felt really good, from what I could tell. After my little drive around the block, I started thinking about the original electrical issue. I pulled back into the garage, left it running, opened the hood and disconnected the battery. The engine died!! HOLY CRAP!! The whole time the problem was the alternator!! (or is that a generator in this car?) Well - either way, I think that was the problem the entire time! All that being said ~ it doesn't appear that my local auto parts stores have access to this part. Where would I go to get a new/rebuilt one?!?!? Robb Shannon 1966 sp311 1600 Surprise, AZ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 20 20:50:55 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Donovan " , , Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:50:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster From: "Graeme" > Feel free to ask away, nothing is too silly, the cars are quite unique in > some areas. Unique #1. You are aware that you need both metric and SAE wrenches to work on your car? The late model cars have a metric drivetrain, and SAE body/chassis. Enjoy! Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 21 05:15:10 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:13:59 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT- Studebaker Nationals 2008 Lancaster Pa. my apologies for the bandwidth, I'm posting this because some of us are into more than just roadsters.. went to the Studebaker Nationals this past thursday in Lancaster Pa. for the car show and took a few pix, thought I'd share. have posted an album on my webshots if you'd like to take a look. we went in my friend Greg's 4spd '63 GT Hawk- he's owned it for 16 years and this made for the longest day trip he'd ever done. didn't go over 110, no tickets, saw lots of great cars...the Hawk doesn't even have 60k miles on it yet. had a great day :-) I may just have to breathe life back into my '54 coupe I've had for 36 years before too much more time goes by... have a specific 67.5 project I really have to finish up before I work on anything else though. Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 21 10:01:19 2008 From: "speeddemonrs" To: Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:00:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks everyone! You definitely know how to make a guy feel welcome! - Thanks!! I will be considering the GM alternator route, but will keep the original and see if I can find another bracket so if I ever did want to go with more of a traditional route, I would still have that option. All of the links that were provided in the emails have been great, and all the suggestions have been noted, and will start to look into them once I figure out how to pay for it all! :-) Of course, one of the recent posts, a newer member asked about where to start on his resto - and overwhelmingly the response was GET IT RUNNING AND DRIVE IT - So I figured, that would be the place to start! I will be taking everything really slow, and other then the alternator swap, the next focus will be the brakes. Again thanks for being here, and all the support!! Robb Shannon Surprise AZ 1966 ~ SP311 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 21 14:35:02 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:34:57 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] WOW - Up and running! Welcome. Great story. Sounds like you got a good deal. If you've been watching for a while, then my referring you to the technical section of 311s.org should not be a surprise: Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "speeddemonrs" Hi all - This is my first post to the group, and have been watching you all for some time learning all I can. I picked up my first Roadster 2 weeks ago; 1966 1600. The owner told me that it has been sitting for 4 years (garaged, thankfully) and that an "electrical issue" forced it off the road back then and has been sitting ever since. [snip] After my little drive around the block, I started thinking about the original electrical issue. I pulled back into the garage, left it running, opened the hood and disconnected the battery. The engine died!! HOLY CRAP!! The whole time the problem was the alternator!! (or is that a generator in this car?) Well - either way, I think that was the problem the entire time! All that being said ~ it doesn't appear that my local auto parts stores have access to this part. Where would I go to get a new/rebuilt one?!?!? Robb Shannon 1966 sp311 1600 Surprise, AZ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 21 19:00:27 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , "Daryl Smith" Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:00:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] In Cylinder Video.......! Patti, Your showing your (our) age. Masquerade as one of the younger owners as I do: Kewl! Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Dwinell" To: "Daryl Smith" Cc: "All list" Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] In Cylinder Video.......! > That is soooo coooooll!! Thank you for sharing this! > Patti > > --- On Fri, 9/19/08, Daryl Smith wrote: > From: Daryl Smith > Subject: [Roadsters] In Cylinder Video.......! > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 7:27 PM > > Neat video, something that you wouldn't normally see! > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5815350492893860613&hl=en > > Daryl > You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 21 19:28:11 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "speeddemonrs" , Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:28:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Thanks everyone! Robb, My opinion: Unless you are planning to add a lot of electrical load to the system (mondo stereo, for example) the original alternator works just fine, and reliably. If it were mine, I'd fine a shop which can repair it, then run it. In the 37 years I have owned my '66 (with a U20), I have never had anything but a stock alternator. The only load I added is a 100 watt driving light. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "speeddemonrs" To: Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks everyone! > You definitely know how to make a guy feel welcome! - Thanks!! > > > > I will be considering the GM alternator route, but will keep the original > and see if I can find another bracket so if I ever did want to go with > more > of a traditional route, I would still have that option. > > > > All of the links that were provided in the emails have been great, and all > the suggestions have been noted, and will start to look into them once I > figure out how to pay for it all! :-) Of course, one of the recent posts, > a > newer member asked about where to start on his resto - and overwhelmingly > the response was GET IT RUNNING AND DRIVE IT - So I figured, that would be > the place to start! I will be taking everything really slow, and other > then > the alternator swap, the next focus will be the brakes. > > > > Again thanks for being here, and all the support!! > > > > Robb Shannon > > Surprise AZ > > 1966 ~ SP311 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 21 20:44:26 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" , Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:14:19 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] 100W driving light. "The only load I added is a 100 watt driving light. Gary Ault" Mmmmmmm, I hope you provided new wiring, appropriate fuse and relay for the "landing light"?? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 21 21:00:18 2008 From: "Donovan " To: Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:00:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Website Hello everyone, I noticed that some on you have your own website that documents your restoration projects. Godaddy.com. has been mentioned so far. Does anyone else have suggestions regarding where any other place where I can create a straight forward website? And yes, I am budget conscious. Thanks. Donovan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 21 23:26:36 2008 From: "stan" To: "'Donovan'" , Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:26:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Website Yes! www.1and1.com Cheap, professional and easy to use. I have a mustang site using these guys. Good luck. Stan Coquitlam, BC 1969 1600 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Donovan Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:00 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Website Hello everyone, I noticed that some on you have your own website that documents your restoration projects. Godaddy.com. has been mentioned so far. Does anyone else have suggestions regarding where any other place where I can create a straight forward website? And yes, I am budget conscious. Thanks. Donovan You are subscribed as stathy@shaw.ca Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 01:03:22 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Donovan '" , Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:32:57 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Website Hi Donovan, Depends on what exactly you are referring to as a "Website". I personally use a free image hosting service, Shutterfly. http://www.shutterfly.com/ Not a "Home Page" as such but I was able to setup my own "Shared Album" site under my nom de plume "Nissanman". I'm not saying it is the best but the price is right! $0.00 What more could the budget conscious ask for!! If your chosen name is unused you too can specify your site name. Admittedly, I am at the mercy of a hosting service but they have done all the hard work, I just post my images on there. I have all the original images on my HD. There are a few hosting sites about, some better than others, you takes your choice and pays no money! Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia "Hello everyone, I noticed that some on you have your own website that documents your restoration projects. Godaddy.com. has been mentioned so far. Does anyone else have suggestions regarding where any other place where I can create a straight forward website? And yes, I am budget conscious. Thanks. Donovan" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 05:44:15 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:44:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] In Cylinder Video.......! How'd they get that engine to idle at 3 RPM? HAHAHAHAHA! Have a great week everyone! Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:27 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] In Cylinder Video.......! Neat video, something that you wouldn't normally see! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5815350492893860613&hl=en Daryl You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 05:53:39 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Donovan '" , "'Datsun List'" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:53:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Welcome to our little insane asylum, Donovan! Here's a quick tip... Get Scott Sheeler's "Datsun Roadster Book vol. 1&2". You won't be sorry. Well worth the $88!!! Matt Smith, Chattanooga TN And Loreli, (she's a Silver 1970 2000 Solex) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Donovan Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:55 PM To: 'Datsun List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Pete, Linda and Fred, Thanks a lot for the information. I will definitely follow-up with your suggestions. Pete, I could have kept driving the car as there was nothing wrong with the engine, but the shocks needed replacing and the rust on the car was getting worse so I stored it until I could save up enough money to do the interior and bodywork. I have the ownership around here somewhere. My car does not have the tear-drop shape marker lights but it could have been removed by a previous owner as the car has apparently been painted a different color. I don't want a showroom condition car because I don't have the money for that. My idea of restoring is getting rid of the rust, re-chroming, a nice paint job, re-upholstering and having an engine that has some pep in it. There nothing like driving a roadster on an tree-lined country road. I won't even attempt to start the car until I do what some of you have already recommended. Thanks again. Donovan -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+dbranch=rogers.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+dbranch=rogers.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: 2008-09-19 20:26 To: Datsun List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Restoring my first roadster Donovan, This mailing list, like most, does not allow attachments. You might consider adding to the Roadster Registry on 311s.org. You think it's a '69? What does the VIN plate and/or title say? Primary spotting feature for '69's are tear drop-shaped front marker lights. Here's a pic of a '69 2000: "I am all excited about restoring it." Restoring a car means different things to different people from beater to daily driver to concours winner. Different levels of time, commitment and money, especially if you're paying someone to do the work. "I drove it until I couldn't drive it anymore" means what exactly? Might tell you where to start. "It needs body, interior and some engine work." Personally, I'd start by getting it running. Welcome. Pete ------------------ 1966 SPL311 1600 1966 WPL411 L20b You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 05:56:08 2008 From: "Stan Rasmussen" To: "'Graeme'" , "'Donovan '" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:55:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Website Hey all, I just set up a site through Google, free, 100MB, easy set up. You will need a Google (gmail) account. If you need one drop me a note with your email address and I'll send you an invite. Stan in Indy Indyraz@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Graeme Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:03 AM To: 'Donovan '; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Website Hi Donovan, Depends on what exactly you are referring to as a "Website". I personally use a free image hosting service, Shutterfly. http://www.shutterfly.com/ Not a "Home Page" as such but I was able to setup my own "Shared Album" site under my nom de plume "Nissanman". I'm not saying it is the best but the price is right! $0.00 What more could the budget conscious ask for!! If your chosen name is unused you too can specify your site name. Admittedly, I am at the mercy of a hosting service but they have done all the hard work, I just post my images on there. I have all the original images on my HD. There are a few hosting sites about, some better than others, you takes your choice and pays no money! Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t http://tinyurl.com/6n5aza Adelaide South Australia "Hello everyone, I noticed that some on you have your own website that documents your restoration projects. Godaddy.com. has been mentioned so far. Does anyone else have suggestions regarding where any other place where I can create a straight forward website? And yes, I am budget conscious. Thanks. Donovan" You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1683 - Release Date: 9/21/2008 10:10 AM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 10:06:48 2008 From: toolmansj2@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:06:19 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] well its time to start Well I am just about an hour away from starting my 2 year project car 69 u20. Is there anyone in the Tracy area with experience that would like to assist me in the start up? I want to try to fire it up today. I just need to go get a battery some gas and add water. I bought this car with the engine completely disassembled everything completely stripped of of it and all the parts were in boxes. No experience with these cars made it quite a challenge. I have rebuilt everything mechanical even the 5 speed just could not do a frame off because of space. ........... Next up will be body and paint and interior. Thanks to all of he people on 311s who have offerd advise and all the vendors ho supply us the parts. Shaun Jones -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 16:43:07 2008 From: toolmansj2@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list), Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:43:00 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] belt problem I have reversed my altenator to the driverside and dont know what belt to buy i tried the 7340 but it is too short any clues? -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 17:56:43 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:56:19 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem I thought the driver's side was the normal side for an alternator on a '69? Anyway... If the belt doesn't fit, take a piece of rope and loop it around the pulley's. That should give you a rough measurement to take to the auto parts store. Buy several belts around that size letting them know you'll be returning all but one. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: toolmansj2@comcast.net > I have reversed my altenator to the driverside and dont know what belt to buy i > tried the 7340 but it is too short any clues? > > -- > 1969 2000 U20 > 2007 Titan 4x4 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 18:20:06 2008 From: "Brian Hollands" To: , "'Roadster mailist'" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:19:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem I've been using a NAPA Premium XL belt with part number 25-09783. The part number is a couple of years old but I'm sure it can be cross referenced if it isn't current. This belt has the right V and adequate length. ________________________________ BRIAN HOLLANDS '69 2000 Tampa FL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 18:42:36 2008 From: "dave" To: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:40:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 100W driving light. Those who don't only flip the switch once. :( Then they replace the fuse and add the aforementioned parts. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Graeme [mailto:graemes@internode.on.net] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:44 PM To: 'Gary and Cindy Ault'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 100W driving light. "The only load I added is a 100 watt driving light. Gary Ault" Mmmmmmm, I hope you provided new wiring, appropriate fuse and relay for the "landing light"?? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 18:59:02 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: toolmansj2@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:58:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem The 311 site has a PDF file for all Gates belts and hose numbers. Go to 311->WIKI->cooling-> PDF file (pretty sure that was the sequence) Linda -----Original Message----- From: toolmansj2@comcast.net To: roadster list Sent: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 3:43 pm Subject: [Roadsters] belt problem I have reversed my altenator to the driverside and dont know what belt to buy i tried the 7340 but it is too short any clues? -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 19:07:56 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:07:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] engine rebuild OT Hey guys, This is really Off Topic but there are some really street smart engine guys here so I hope you don't mind me bouncing this off the list. OK it's my boat engine. First I am no stranger to engine rebuilds. R16 and U20. Working on a sonett. Did a dodge dart engine. We had really heavy rain in New England 3 weeks ago.Boat engine got half submerged. Pumped boat out. BTW V8 inboard. Well oil had foam,lots of it which means previous problem. Brought it to the marine (which is a marina with no water). They say new engine. Blown head gasket but no oil pressure. OK I'll cut to the chase. The engine ran fine the day before the flood so water got into the oil before. Blown head gasket makes sense. Would the cream cause the oil pump to clog. They don't diagnose just replace. $4000. Say I may have spun a bearing. Don't think so. It would have made noise. Is this just a blown head and a clogged oil pump? Would ONE spun bearing cause no oil pressure? Just some thoughts .There was no catastrofic failure. The only reason I checked the oil was the flood. Roadster content. I use the same ball hitch to sometimes tow the roadster. LOL Thanks ALL Dave ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 19:51:39 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , "roadster list" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:51:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "roadster list" Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] belt problem >I have reversed my altenator to the driverside and dont know what belt to >buy i tried the 7340 but it is too short any clues? > > -- > 1969 2000 U20 > 2007 Titan 4x4 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 19:52:15 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , "roadster list" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:52:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem Hit "Send" instead of "Paste" the first time. Sorry about that. Shaun, You mean you put it on the lower left (driver's) side? Did you have the correct brackets for mounting on the upper right (passenger's) side? The'67s had the alternator on the upper right. Nissan moved it to the lower left to accommodate the air injection pump for the emission control system. In the lower left, the alternator is a) more difficult to access, and b) subject to much more heat from the exhaust manifold even if you have the correct heat shield (which you probably don't). I moved the alternator on the '69 U20 I put in my '66 1600 back in 1972. At that time, I was able to buy the correct factory brackets for the '67 alternator mounting. They're not hard to make, though. I'd put it in the upper right. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "roadster list" Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] belt problem >I have reversed my altenator to the driverside and dont know what belt to >buy i tried the 7340 but it is too short any clues? > > -- > 1969 2000 U20 > 2007 Titan 4x4 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 19:56:58 2008 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: , Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:58:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] engine rebuild OT Dave, Not sure if this will be useful or not. I have my boat in NE Pennsylvania. A friend of mine hit bottom, and it busted the seal around the outdrive. A few days later it was submerged. I got it out of the water within 12 hours and brought it to the marina. They said the engine would be fine if....... All they did was change the oil and filter three times. They said they cranked it between each change. I do not know if they did that with spark or not. The bad part was that they did have to replace other parts like alternator, blower, etc. I guess they did not like being submerged. This was a few years back, and the boat has run fine since then. I say that if it ran fine before, just change the fluids a few times to see if it clears up. Maybe cream oil is just from the water in engine while being submerged? Good Luck. John ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:07 PM Subject: [Roadsters] engine rebuild OT > Hey guys, > This is really Off Topic but there are some really street smart engine > guys here so I hope you don't mind me bouncing this off the list. > OK it's my boat engine. First I am no stranger to engine rebuilds. R16 and > U20. Working on a sonett. Did a dodge dart engine. > We had really heavy rain in New England 3 weeks ago.Boat engine got half > submerged. Pumped boat out. BTW V8 inboard. Well oil had foam,lots of it > which means previous problem. Brought it to the marine (which is a marina > with no water). They say new engine. Blown head gasket but no oil > pressure. > > OK I'll cut to the chase. > > The engine ran fine the day before the flood so water got into the oil > before. > > Blown head gasket makes sense. Would the cream cause the oil pump to clog. > > They don't diagnose just replace. $4000. > > Say I may have spun a bearing. Don't think so. It would have made noise. > > > Is this just a blown head and a clogged oil pump? Would ONE spun bearing > cause no oil pressure? > > > Just some thoughts .There was no catastrofic failure. The only reason I > checked the oil was the flood. > > > Roadster content. I use the same ball hitch to sometimes tow the roadster. > LOL > > Thanks ALL > > Dave > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 20:34:35 2008 From: "Bubba" To: , "roadster list" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:33:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem V-belt numbers indicate cross-sectional dimension and length. There are 2 different numbering systems that make it a bit more challenging. V-belts are expressed in inches. For US V-belts, the part number first has a letter to id the cross section, and a number to id the approx inside length. Narrow V-belts are id'd by a number - 3,5, or 8 --- for the belt top width in 1/8" increments, followed by the letter "V." The rest of the digits indicate the effective belt length in tenths of inches. The metric belts made to ISO standards have an ISO number showing the width about 1/3 down the "V" and the "theoretical" length based on the diameter when measured 1/3 down the "V". For belts made to DIN standards, the numbers indicate top width and inside circumference in millimeters. In other words, if you need a belt longer than the 7340, assuming the same manufacturer, you want a highter numbered belt, the number depends on how much more length you need. Hope this confusion helps a bit. Bob Winslade ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "roadster list" Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] belt problem >I have reversed my altenator to the driverside and dont know what belt to >buy i tried the 7340 but it is too short any clues? > > -- > 1969 2000 U20 > 2007 Titan 4x4 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 21:15:25 2008 From: "Stan Rasmussen" To: "'Bubba'" , , "'roadster Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:10:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem Hey all, being the topic at the moment is belts would someone please tell me what the best type of belt would be to use for an A/C compressor that currently has a smooth belt that screeches no matter how tight? Teeth? Ribs? Coating? Brand? BTW- the A/C is on my SRL311 - Thanks - Stan in Indy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bubba Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:34 PM To: toolmansj2@comcast.net; roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem V-belt numbers indicate cross-sectional dimension and length. There are 2 different numbering systems that make it a bit more challenging. V-belts are expressed in inches. For US V-belts, the part number first has a letter to id the cross section, and a number to id the approx inside length. Narrow V-belts are id'd by a number - 3,5, or 8 --- for the belt top width in 1/8" increments, followed by the letter "V." The rest of the digits indicate the effective belt length in tenths of inches. The metric belts made to ISO standards have an ISO number showing the width about 1/3 down the "V" and the "theoretical" length based on the diameter when measured 1/3 down the "V". For belts made to DIN standards, the numbers indicate top width and inside circumference in millimeters. In other words, if you need a belt longer than the 7340, assuming the same manufacturer, you want a highter numbered belt, the number depends on how much more length you need. Hope this confusion helps a bit. Bob Winslade ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "roadster list" Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] belt problem >I have reversed my altenator to the driverside and dont know what belt >to >buy i tried the 7340 but it is too short any clues? > > -- > 1969 2000 U20 > 2007 Titan 4x4 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1683 - Release Date: 9/21/2008 10:10 AM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 22 21:54:59 2008 From: "dave" To: "'roadsterlist'" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:52:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem I usually use a wire brush and brakleen to get all the crap off the pulleys, Dayco top cogs are the best belts I've found. If the pulleys are parallel, the only other problem may be the drive and driven pullys are made for different width belts. If you can't match pulley widths, it may never be right. You probably know this, but avoid excess belt tension as it's hard on the waterpump bearings. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Stan Rasmussen [mailto:razmataz@indy.net] Hey all, being the topic at the moment is belts would someone please tell me what the best type of belt would be to use for an A/C compressor that currently has a smooth belt that screeches no matter how tight? Teeth? Ribs? Coating? Brand? BTW- the A/C is on my SRL311 - Thanks - Stan in Indy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 05:01:29 2008 From: Tim To: toolmansj2@comcast.net, roadster list Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 4:00:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] belt problem Once you figure out the correct size belt for your application...buy a second belt and put it in the trunk with your tools and other extra parts. You do carry tools and extra parts don't you? ;-) Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- toolmansj2@comcast.net wrote: ============= I have reversed my altenator to the driverside and dont know what belt to buy i tried the 7340 but it is too short any clues? -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 05:18:33 2008 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] engine rebuild OT my daughter submerged one of those atv's. she had never driven one, and we were at a friends place. their daughter let her drive. then came up to a pond, and their daughter said turn right.my daughter turned left. their daughter said stop. my daughter said "How?"then they all went swimming. changed all the fluids (it blew water out of the spark plug hole when cranked), and used ether i think to clean the moisture out of the carbs. it ran fine after that.now, if they cranked it with the spark plugs in place with water in the cylinders, water doesn't compress, and they may have serously damaged the engine.so, first try change all the fluids, clean out the carbs, and see what happens. good luck! John ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:07 PM Subject: [Roadsters] engine rebuild OT > Hey guys, > This is really Off Topic but there are some really street smart engine > guys here so I hope you don't mind me bouncing this off the list. > OK it's my boat engine. First I am no stranger to engine rebuilds. R16 and > U20. Working on a sonett. Did a dodge dart engine. > We had really heavy rain in New England 3 weeks ago.Boat engine got half > submerged. Pumped boat out. BTW V8 inboard. Well oil had foam,lots of it > which means previous problem. Brought it to the marine (which is a marina > with no water). They say new engine. Blown head gasket but no oil > pressure. > > OK I'll cut to the chase. > > The engine ran fine the day before the flood so water got into the oil > before. > > Blown head gasket makes sense. Would the cream cause the oil pump to clog. > > They don't diagnose just replace. $4000. > > Say I may have spun a bearing. Don't think so. It would have made noise. > > > Is this just a blown head and a clogged oil pump? Would ONE spun bearing > cause no oil pressure? > > > Just some thoughts .There was no catastrofic failure. The only reason I > checked the oil was the flood. > > > Roadster content. I use the same ball hitch to sometimes tow the roadster. > LOL > > Thanks ALL > > Dave ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 07:14:30 2008 From: Steve Ehlers To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:29:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun 1600 head questions (Daryl Smith) Hey Daryl , Don't waste time trying to re-engineer something that will work well in stock form for a street car . I have done quite a bit of Datsun / Nissan cylinder Head development over the past 30 years ,and performance gains of minor specs do NOT translate into major performance enhancers . There is a lot of port flow and combustion chamber work that can make considerable gains , so modification of spark plug location is a waste of time in my opinion . Some heads work well with a change in angles ,however I hear of this done more so on Hemi designed Cross flow heads . I have actually changed the spark plug location in relation to the combustion chamber in many Racing engines that were of the Hemi type ,but it was a result of combustion camber mods that enhanced power . It the plug location helped any I would doubt it, as a perfect chamber with the plug just entering it ,has the best flow numbers ,and has less interference with flame travel . The reason for projected tips on say the BP6ES plug is not for getting the plug closer to the center of the chamber as you suggest . This design will allow the electrode to run hotter and therefore stay cleaner .In a street car that has to do more than run wide open , as in a race car , this allows the plug to not get fouled easily . The recessed type plugs are more commonly used in racing because of the clearances needed with racing pistons and the need for changing if necessary ,isn't an issue . Steve www.risingsunperformance.com From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith@dccnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:29 PM To: Steve Ehlers; Walter Peterson; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Spark Plug Seat? Just going over my R16 head and notice that the end of the spark plug is about .030" to .040" inside the threaded chase at the combustion chamber. On the sparkplug itself, there is another .030"-.040" before the threads start......... Would it be beneficial for power and efficiency, albiet small, to machine the seat in the head to get the spark that .060" - .080" further into, and closer to, the center of the combustion chamber? It isn't till the threads start that it will make a difference as far as heat dissipation into the head, so the same contact area will be there for that...... Just throwing out ideas....... Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 09:24:29 2008 From: VulForge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:16:42 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] OT Boat Motor Rebuild Dave; start simple. Pull all the spark plugs, shoot a bit of oil into each cylinder, change oil to a high-detergent type and crank over with the plugs out. Confirm that there is oil pressure. You can make an oil pump drive and spin it up with a drill if you wish. If you have oil pressure and the motor is spinning well, replace the plugs and run it for a short while. A compression test will tell you if there is a blown head gasket. Find a better marine mechanic or commit to doing your own work. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1048 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 09:56:12 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'speeddemonrs'" , Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:56:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Thanks everyone! Robb, In your case I'd say, get it stopping - then get it running - then drive it! :-) Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of speeddemonrs Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 12:01 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks everyone! You definitely know how to make a guy feel welcome! - Thanks!! I will be considering the GM alternator route, but will keep the original and see if I can find another bracket so if I ever did want to go with more of a traditional route, I would still have that option. All of the links that were provided in the emails have been great, and all the suggestions have been noted, and will start to look into them once I figure out how to pay for it all! :-) Of course, one of the recent posts, a newer member asked about where to start on his resto - and overwhelmingly the response was GET IT RUNNING AND DRIVE IT - So I figured, that would be the place to start! I will be taking everything really slow, and other then the alternator swap, the next focus will be the brakes. Again thanks for being here, and all the support!! Robb Shannon Surprise AZ 1966 ~ SP311 1600 You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 11:23:45 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT Boat Motor Rebuild I'd suggest getting it warm enough to make any residual water evaporate, then change the oil again. Keep running it and changing it until you see no cloudiness in the oil. Any pocket of water left in the "works" can ruin the engine. JimG --- On Tue, 9/23/08, VulForge@aol.com wrote: From: VulForge@aol.com Subject: [Roadsters] OT Boat Motor Rebuild To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:16 AM Dave; start simple. Pull all the spark plugs, shoot a bit of oil into each cylinder, change oil to a high-detergent type and crank over with the plugs out. Confirm that there is oil pressure. You can make an oil pump drive and spin it up with a drill if you wish. If you have oil pressure and the motor is spinning well, replace the plugs and run it for a short while. A compression test will tell you if there is a blown head gasket. Find a better marine mechanic or commit to doing your own work. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1048 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 12:54:23 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: SoCalROC - Fun run Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It's finally Finished! She looks great, Chris!! You've done a wonderful job and should be very proud. Keep her gased-up and enjoy the ride! Patti --- On Mon, 9/22/08, SoCalROC - Fun run wrote: From: SoCalROC - Fun run Subject: It's finally Finished! To: socalroc@gmail.com Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 9:48 PM Hey SoCalROCers. Check out Chris Breyer's Car, it just got completely finished today (September 22, 2008) http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/567278648yycqdU I was so happy to get this finished. my wife and I took it out for a drive (been sitting and having major work done on it since June). on our way to dinner, it just stoped running. Kind of bummed I walked around the car and my wife asked "When did you get gas last" to which I replied like a smart ass "in June...". she just stared at me. Well there ya have it, I did everything to the car but one thing. I guess gas is kind of important thing to remember. Better get that gauge fixed. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 14:00:09 2008 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:58:36 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] boat engine rebuild OT When you mix oil and water, you get a creamy, foamy mixture. If the motor hadn't been submerged, I would have said head gasket, also. However, you said it was submerged. You could easily get water to mix with oil through any number of places. I would drain the oil and refill. Pull all the plugs and turn it over to see if you have any water in the cylinders. If you have water in the cylinders, not sure how you get it out but, it has to come out. Water doesn't compress and will bend your valves. If you don't have any water, check the dip stick a second time. If you don't see water, I would try to start the motor. Good Luck, Dan McHatton '66 1600 ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iif3WDHsq9a8vzGaWAQFRRFkjzBI 8bUhrUmkFdVWpk1K2ZRwK/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 14:29:44 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com, socalroc@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:29:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It's finally Finished! To All, Tim & Will Miner can't go on saturday as previously planned.? It seems that I forgot that my anniversary is on that day and my wife is just not that good of sport.? Will and I will however go down on Sunday.? Anyone wanting, or able to go on sunday are welcome to go with us.? We'll be leaving from Irvine Spectrum at 6:15 a.m..? We're leaving that early so that we're not stuck in that nightmare traffic that occurs going south on the 5. Tim Miner P.S. Those of you leaving Saturday may want to consider leaving earlier yourself to avoid the traffic -----Original Message----- From: Patti Dwinell To: SoCalROC - Fun run Cc: All list Sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:53 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It's finally Finished! She looks great, Chris!! You've done a wonderful job and should be very proud. Keep her gased-up and enjoy the ride! Patti --- On Mon, 9/22/08, SoCalROC - Fun run wrote: From: SoCalROC - Fun run Subject: It's finally Finished! To: socalroc@gmail.com Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 9:48 PM Hey SoCalROCers. Check out Chris Breyer's Car, it just got completely finished today (September 22, 2008) http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/567278648yycqdU I was so happy to get this finished. my wife and I took it out for a drive (been sitting and having major work done on it since June). on our way to dinner, it just stoped running. Kind of bummed I walked around the car and my wife asked "When did you get gas last" to which I replied like a smart ass "in June...". she just stared at me. Well there ya have it, I did everything to the car but one thing. I guess gas is kind of important thing to remember. Better get that gauge fixed. You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 14:42:10 2008 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: tminerpcav@aol.com, fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com, socalroc@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:41:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It's finally Finished! Sorry, this was to be a reply to the fun run on Saturday.? I replied to the wrong message. Tim -----Original Message----- From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com; socalroc@gmail.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 1:29 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It's finally Finished! To All, Tim & Will Miner can't go on saturday as previously planned.? It seems that I forgot that my anniversary is on that day and my wife is just not that good of sport.? Will and I will however go down on Sunday.? Anyone wanting, or able to go on sunday are welcome to go with us.? We'll be leaving from Irvine Spectrum at 6:15 a.m..? We're leaving that early so that we're not stuck in that nightmare traffic that occurs going south on the 5. Tim Miner P.S. Those of you leaving Saturday may want to consider leaving earlier yourself to avoid the traffic -----Original Message----- From: Patti Dwinell To: SoCalROC - Fun run Cc: All list Sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:53 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It's finally Finished! She looks great, Chris!! You've done a wonderful job and should be very proud. Keep her gased-up and enjoy the ride! Patti --- On Mon, 9/22/08, SoCalROC - Fun run wrote: From: SoCalROC - Fun run Subject: It's finally Finished! To: socalroc@gmail.com Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 9:48 PM Hey SoCalROCers. Check out Chris Breyer's Car, it just got completely finished today (September 22, 2008) http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/567278648yycqdU I was so happy to get this finished. my wife and I took it out for a drive (been sitting and having major work done on it since June). on our way to dinner, it just stoped running. Kind of bummed I walked around the car and my wife asked "When did you get gas last" to which I replied like a smart ass "in June...". she just stared at me. Well there ya have it, I did everything to the car but one thing. I guess gas is kind of important thing to remember. Better get that gauge fixed. You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net htt p://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 15:14:48 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:11:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Porting, Polishing, Squish, Quench, and Turbulence. A good discussion of the above topics, David Vizard is among the posters and the following quote is from one of his posts: The point about the course grit emery roll is one that novices should really pay attention too. a 60 grit emery roll on the intake not only removes what ever nasty bumps there may be but also helps offset the rivulet flow of wet fuel deposits. Any intake port that has a super shine is designed to catch the un-informed novice who stiil believes that 'port and polish' is for real. The only place a shine should exist is in the chamber or exhaust and that is not to the exclusion of any surface designed to shear running fluids. Remind me down the road that I have an interesting story about polished ports and difficult to convince folk who still think a polish is the bee's knee's. DV http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/33-cylinder-turbulence-burn -rate-8.html It is a long thread at 21 pages, but a very good discussion! Happy Reading! Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 18:15:46 2008 From: Herb Petty To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] It's Finally Finished ATT. Chris, Looks like your new Roadster is verrrry lucky. I'm sure you'll get many positive comments. For Safty sake, are you aware that your inside door handles, are in the wrong position ? Please don't think I'm critizing, but a small child, or even an adult, could open the doors pretty easy. The correct position for the drivers side is 1:00 o,clock, & the passenger side is 11 o'clock. I hope you bring this beautiful car to Solvang next year. Herb Petty ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 23 19:31:25 2008 From: John Atchison To: "'Donovan'" , Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:35:33 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Website I second that opinion........ I use 1and1 to host a couple web sites/pages for the Teton Hillclimb and Eastern Idaho Sports Car Club. They seem to be always up and available, rather easy to use and DON'T bombard me with advertising everyday like some web hosting sites. Give you lots of disk space and email addresses if you need those features. John Half Fast Racing At 11:26 PM 9/21/2008, stan wrote: >Yes! >www.1and1.com > >Cheap, professional and easy to use. >I have a mustang site using these guys. > >Good luck. >Stan >Coquitlam, BC >1969 1600 > >-----Original Message----- >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca@autox.team.net >[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stathy=shaw.ca@autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of Donovan >Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:00 PM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] Website > >Hello everyone, >I noticed that some on you have your own website that documents your >restoration projects. Godaddy.com. has been mentioned so far. >Does anyone else have suggestions regarding where any other place where >I >can create a straight forward website? And yes, I am budget conscious. >Thanks. > >Donovan >You are subscribed as stathy@shaw.ca ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 00:19:34 2008 From: philip erickson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT Boat Motor Rebuild Pickling an engine.....should be done as soon as the motor is raised and washed with fresh water.... Fill every space inside the engine with lubricating oil or diesel fuel (which is easier to work with). Replace the drain plug and fill the crank case with the oil. At the same time, pour oil into the carburetor (if it has one) or air intake system until it flows out of each spark plug hole thereby displacing the water. Now, with plugs or injectors removed, turn the engine over by hand using a wrench or bar (or with a borrowed starter). Turn the engine over several times to distribute the oil. Refill the cylinders and carburetor to overflowing. Now you can wait for a mechanic, or if you have the mechanical inclination to do the work yourself, then proceed with the next set of steps. Change fluids and crank to get pressure. clean out fuel lines and ....... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 05:29:57 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 4:26:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wisconsin CL-- 69 2000 with Weber carbs I have no connection to this car and know nothing about it. If I had two grand I might try to buy it. http://appleton.craigslist.org/cto/852753286.html Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 12:13:17 2008 From: RoadsterGB@aol.com To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:05:33 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Image of the month - Ferrari GTO and Fairlady 1500 This month's image is a great photo taken by Eric Rosendahl of a 1500 passing a Ferrari GTO. Click the link from _www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) Greetings from England - Rob ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 13:19:31 2008 From: oliver To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, RoadsterGB@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Image of the month - Ferrari GTO and Fairlady 1500 first of all, the datsun's blurred. what's up with that? and no, i think the ferrari is passing the datsun --- On Wed, 9/24/08, RoadsterGB@aol.com wrote: From: RoadsterGB@aol.com Subject: [Roadsters] Image of the month - Ferrari GTO and Fairlady 1500 To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 1:05 PM This month's image is a great photo taken by Eric Rosendahl of a 1500 passing a Ferrari GTO. Click the link from _www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) Greetings from England - Rob ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 15:48:42 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: , , Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:48:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Image of the month - Ferrari GTO and Fairlady 1500 I think the Datsun is blurred because he's passing the Ferrari like he's standing still. HAHAHAHA! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:19 PM To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; RoadsterGB@aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Image of the month - Ferrari GTO and Fairlady 1500 first of all, the datsun's blurred. what's up with that? and no, i think the ferrari is passing the datsun --- On Wed, 9/24/08, RoadsterGB@aol.com wrote: From: RoadsterGB@aol.com Subject: [Roadsters] Image of the month - Ferrari GTO and Fairlady 1500 To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 1:05 PM This month's image is a great photo taken by Eric Rosendahl of a 1500 passing a Ferrari GTO. Click the link from _www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) Greetings from England - Rob You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 16:05:09 2008 From: toolmansj2@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:04:54 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Its alive Finally got my car running. I am having a heck of a time setting the timing. seems to run good about 1200 rpm but then timing goes way out. If I lower the rpm I can get the timing in but engine runs rough. Any Clues -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 16:58:32 2008 From: Pat To: toolmansj2@comcast.net Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:58:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Its alive Check your centrifugal springs to be sure they are both in place. Also, check the distributor shaft for excess wobble that could be affecting the dwell. Peace, Pat Thusly spake toolmansj2@comcast.net: > Finally got my car running. > I am having a heck of a time setting the timing. seems to run good about 1200 rpm but then timing goes way out. If I lower the rpm I can get the timing in but engine runs rough. Any Clues > > -- > 1969 2000 U20 > 2007 Titan 4x4 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.1/1688 - Release Date: 9/24/2008 6:29 AM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 17:23:38 2008 From: Steve Jacobson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It's finally Finished! Great car Chris, wonderful work. As I wandered around your albums, I ran into the "My Public Shoebox" album. I noticed the tach in this picture http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2325175230102599732XpwtGI?vhost=good-tim es Is that a late-style tach? If so, how did you install? I would like to run a late style in my '67 race car. Thanks much. Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com --- On Mon, 9/22/08, SoCalROC - Fun run wrote: From: SoCalROC - Fun run Subject: It's finally Finished! To: socalroc@gmail.com Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 9:48 PM Hey SoCalROCers. Check out Chris Breyer's Car, it just got completely finished today (September 22, 2008) http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/567278648yycqdU I was so happy to get this finished. my wife and I took it out for a drive (been sitting and having major work done on it since June). on our way to dinner, it just stoped running. Kind of bummed I walked around the car and my wife asked "When did you get gas last" to which I replied like a smart ass "in June...". she just stared at me. Well there ya have it, I did everything to the car but one thing. I guess gas is kind of important thing to remember. Better get that gauge fixed. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 17:47:44 2008 From: DatsunDoc@aol.com To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:47:10 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Image of the month - Ferrari GTO and Fairlady 1500 The 1500 is Jim Glabicky and the car has a 2000 drive train in it. I talked to him at the Watkins Glen SVRA race a couple of weeks ago about that race pictured. He said that GTO is unrestored and therefore one of the most valuable on the planet. He said it was an amazing car and it made him nervous to be racing with it. I understand, I had a similar feeling dicing with a Porsche 904 when I was driving a 510 one time. BTW- for you Virginia or North Carolina Roadster owners. SVRA is holding a vintage race at VIR this weekend in Danville VA. A nice country drive to get to one of the most beautiful and challenging tracks in the country. If you show up, look for my red 240Z in the paddock. Mike Unger In a message dated 9/24/2008 5:49:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, matthews517@earthlink.net writes: I think the Datsun is blurred because he's passing the Ferrari like he's standing still. HAHAHAHA! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:19 PM To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; RoadsterGB@aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Image of the month - Ferrari GTO and Fairlady 1500 first of all, the datsun's blurred. what's up with that? and no, i think the ferrari is passing the datsun --- On Wed, 9/24/08, RoadsterGB@aol.com wrote: From: RoadsterGB@aol.com Subject: [Roadsters] Image of the month - Ferrari GTO and Fairlady 1500 To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 1:05 PM This month's image is a great photo taken by Eric Rosendahl of a 1500 passing a Ferrari GTO. Click the link from _www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) Greetings from England - Rob You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as datsundoc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Sep 24 21:02:02 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:59:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Porting, Polishing, Squish, Quench, and Turbulence. Oh, there goes an hour plus, most of it wishing I knew what they were talking about. I started reading and now I'm hooked. If I can retain 2% of this, I'll double my knowlege :) Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith@dccnet.com] Subject: [Roadsters] Porting, Polishing, Squish, Quench, and Turbulence. A good discussion of the above topics, David Vizard is among the posters and the following quote is from one of his posts: The point about the course grit emery roll is one that novices should really pay attention too. a 60 grit emery roll on the intake not only removes what ever nasty bumps there may be but also helps offset the rivulet flow of wet fuel deposits. Any intake port that has a super shine is designed to catch the un-informed novice who stiil believes that 'port and polish' is for real. The only place a shine should exist is in the chamber or exhaust and that is not to the exclusion of any surface designed to shear running fluids. Remind me down the road that I have an interesting story about polished ports and difficult to convince folk who still think a polish is the bee's knee's. DV http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/33-cylinder-turbulence -burn -rate-8.html It is a long thread at 21 pages, but a very good discussion! Happy Reading! Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 03:34:05 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "dave" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:33:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Porting, Polishing, Squish, Quench, and Turbulence. There is a link in there to an article which shows some interesting mods to a carb which might be applicable to the Hitachi SUs if someone were wanting to give something like that a try......... http://www.gofastnews.com/board/technical-articles/169-cylinder-turbulance-combustion-dynamics.html This is actually a very good technical site for anyone who might be building an engine and wants to ask questions/get some feedback on modifications...... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" > Oh, there goes an hour plus, most of it wishing I knew what they were > talking about. I started reading and now I'm hooked. If I can retain > 2% of this, I'll double my knowlege :) > > Dave Brisco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith@dccnet.com] > Subject: [Roadsters] Porting, Polishing, Squish, Quench, and > Turbulence. > > A good discussion of the above topics, David Vizard is among the posters > and > the following quote is from one of his posts: > > The point about the course grit emery roll is one that novices should > really > pay attention too. a 60 grit emery roll on the intake not only removes > what > ever nasty bumps there may be but also helps offset the rivulet flow of > wet > fuel deposits. Any intake port that has a super shine is designed to > catch the > un-informed novice who stiil believes that 'port and polish' is for > real. The > only place a shine should exist is in the chamber or exhaust and that is > not > to the exclusion of any surface designed to shear running fluids. > > Remind me down the road that I have an interesting story about polished > ports > and difficult to convince folk who still think a polish is the bee's > knee's. > DV > > http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/33-cylinder-turbulence > -burn > -rate-8.html > > It is a long thread at 21 pages, but a very good discussion! > > Happy Reading! > Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 05:52:33 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Daryl Smith" Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:53:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Porting, Polishing, Squish, Quench, one of my race roadsters has a BRE prepared engine which has what they called "1 1/2 bbl carbs" which were ported out from the slide under the dome to the outer face of the carb in such a manner that they basically had an internal velocity stack- they ported them out almost to the bolt holes for the air cleaner... flowed darn close to as much air as Solexes but didn't have to go to C Production as the Solex cars were required to do, could still run D Production. doesn't seem it would be that difficult of a modification...the other race roadster was in the National runoffs 3x and according to the guy who used to race it was the lightest race 2000 Bob Sharp ever weighed in including the "salt damaged" cars (lightweights)... they're "available" if anyone's looking for such... ;-) Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 06:45:19 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: chalsted@comcast.net, drlsmith@dccnet.com Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:45:07 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Porting, Polishing, Squish, Quench, I have modified SU carbs for the 1600 to flow way more than stock. In testing I put them on my stock 1600. I measured no increase in performance. The stock carbs are fine on a stock engine. However, bolting them onto a real 8,000+ rpm race motor was a different story. It takes quite a bit of time to do a set. keith williams In a message dated 9/25/2008 4:52:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chalsted@comcast.net writes: one of my race roadsters has a BRE prepared engine which has what they called "1 1/2 bbl carbs" which were ported out from the slide under the dome to the outer face of the carb in such a manner that they basically had an internal velocity stack- they ported them out almost to the bolt holes for the air cleaner... flowed darn close to as much air as Solexes but didn't have to go to C Production as the Solex cars were required to do, could still run D Production. doesn't seem it would be that difficult of a modification...the other race roadster was in the National runoffs 3x and according to the guy who used to race it was the lightest race 2000 Bob Sharp ever weighed in including the "salt damaged" cars (lightweights)... they're "available" if anyone's looking for such... ;-) Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 08:23:25 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , , Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:22:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Porting, Polishing, Squish, Quench, At Sloan Racing, we run a set of Keith's SUs on a 8000 rpm+ R16 with great success! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith0alan@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:45 AM To: chalsted@comcast.net; drlsmith@dccnet.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Porting, Polishing, Squish, Quench, and Turbulence. I have modified SU carbs for the 1600 to flow way more than stock. In testing I put them on my stock 1600. I measured no increase in performance. The stock carbs are fine on a stock engine. However, bolting them onto a real 8,000+ rpm race motor was a different story. It takes quite a bit of time to do a set. keith williams In a message dated 9/25/2008 4:52:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chalsted@comcast.net writes: one of my race roadsters has a BRE prepared engine which has what they called "1 1/2 bbl carbs" which were ported out from the slide under the dome to the outer face of the carb in such a manner that they basically had an internal velocity stack- they ported them out almost to the bolt holes for the air cleaner... flowed darn close to as much air as Solexes but didn't have to go to C Production as the Solex cars were required to do, could still run D Production. doesn't seem it would be that difficult of a modification...the other race roadster was in the National runoffs 3x and according to the guy who used to race it was the lightest race 2000 Bob Sharp ever weighed in including the "salt damaged" cars (lightweights)... they're "available" if anyone's looking for such... ;-) Craig Datsun Roadsters mostly... http://community.webshots.com/user/672000 You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 15:14:41 2008 From: Matthew Cox To: roadster list Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine Hey all! I'm trying to disassemble a spare 3-main 1600 engine and have everything off except the crank. I have the front and mid main caps off, but I can't get the rear cap to even budge (bolts are off, of course). Nothing. Not a single gap to get a screwdriver under, not a pounding on it with a rubber mallet, not tossing the whole lump across the garage. Nothing will get it to move. It's as if it is glued in place. Any ideas? Matthew in Phoenix ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 15:23:15 2008 From: Pat To: oscilloscope500@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:22:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine Matthew, It IS glued in place! There should be gasket sealer all around the cap to block, plus some actual seals too. I'm not sure about the 3 bearing engine, but I seem to remember that there is a hole in the rear cap, right in the center. Take a look, it may be threaded. If not, try to find a rod that you can put into it and move it back and forth. Do not use anything to pry the cap out, everything in there is a machined surface. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Matthew Cox: > Hey all! > > I'm trying to disassemble a spare 3-main 1600 engine and have everything off > except the crank. I have the front and mid main caps off, but I can't get the > rear cap to even budge (bolts are off, of course). Nothing. Not a single gap > to get a screwdriver under, not a pounding on it with a rubber mallet, not > tossing the whole lump across the garage. Nothing will get it to move. It's as > if it is glued in place. > > Any ideas? > > Matthew in Phoenix > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.2/1690 - Release Date: 9/25/2008 7:05 AM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 17:23:23 2008 From: toolmansj2@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:23:18 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] a few questions with my start up (please help) 1. All lights work except headlights any thing I can look for tried 2 relays same result 1 of the 3 wires are hot to the headlights. 2.Leaky oil hose from block to distributor has any one cut out the center hose and clamped a new center section in? New seems too expensive. 3.Then there is the idle I have the dwell set at 52 points gapped at about .018 and timing at 17degrees and cant get the engine to idle any lower than about 1000 rpm without roughness. The car holds a steady dwell while changing idle rpms timing seems to hold steady, but when I lower the idle speed it just wont run smooth. any clues. About my engine fresh rebuild on a u20, carbs were done by Kieth Williams block was bored 060 over reground A cam reground rockers new valves springs and seats and guides. New crank bearings seals pistons pins and rings NOW I JUST WANT TO DRIVE IT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS CAR FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS... -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 17:43:52 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: oscilloscope500@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:42:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine > I have the front and mid main caps off, but I can't get the rear cap to > even budge (bolts are off, of course). As I recall, and was mentioned by another lister, that rear cap has a threaded hole in it. That's to allow a bearing cap puller to be threaded in and used to pull the cap off. This is one of those times when the right tool is really handy. You won't use it often, but it'll avoid the potential for a lot of damage. If you try something similar, be certain you don't screw anything into the cap deep enough to hit the crank :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 17:54:09 2008 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: "'John F Sandhoff'" , Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:54:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine I made a very simple puller for this, out of a scrap piece of angle iron, drilled 3 holes in it, middle hole was for a bolt to go into the cap, the other two got long threaded bolts with nuts under the angle iron. Took 5 minutes to build and worked like a charm. I think big box auto parts stores also rent pullers, if that is your preferred course of action. I've also seen a slide hammer used, worked fine also. Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John F Sandhoff Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:43 PM To: oscilloscope500@yahoo.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine > I have the front and mid main caps off, but I can't get the rear cap to > even budge (bolts are off, of course). As I recall, and was mentioned by another lister, that rear cap has a threaded hole in it. That's to allow a bearing cap puller to be threaded in and used to pull the cap off. This is one of those times when the right tool is really handy. You won't use it often, but it'll avoid the potential for a lot of damage. If you try something similar, be certain you don't screw anything into the cap deep enough to hit the crank :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 18:04:39 2008 From: "Graeme" To: , "'roadster list'" Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:34:38 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] a few questions with my start up (please help) 1. If you have 12V at ONE of the headlamp pins, that is a good sign. However 12V at ONE pin may indicate broken filament[s]. If the ground circuit is intact the headlamp should light. If the filament is OK and the ground circuit is not, you should see 12V on TWO pins of the headlamp, supply and the ground wire. Unplug the headlamp and try connecting a Voltmeter to the headlamp plug supply and the common/ground pin [BLACK wire] for both HI [RED with WHITE stripe wire] and LO [RED with BLACK stripe wire] beams. If you see nice solid 12V on both supply leads when you operate the beam change lever on the column, supply is good and the ground is also good. Still no headlamp, broken filament[s]. 2. You could probably get a hydraulic hos Shop to renew the line if you gave them the old one. They will re-use your nipples and fit a new centre section for a fraction the cost of a new unit, [perhaps!] 3. Pass. "1. All lights work except headlights any thing I can look for tried 2 relays same result 1 of the 3 wires are hot to the headlights. 2.Leaky oil hose from block to distributor has any one cut out the center hose and clamped a new center section in? New seems too expensive. 3.Then there is the idle I have the dwell set at 52 points gapped at about .018 and timing at 17degrees and cant get the engine to idle any lower than about 1000 rpm without roughness. The car holds a steady dwell while changing idle rpms timing seems to hold steady, but when I lower the idle speed it just wont run smooth. any clues." ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 19:45:03 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , "'roadster list'" Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:44:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine Here's the quick and dirty, no drilling required way to do it. The bolt hole is a 10mm x 1.5 (or possibly the SAE equivalent, depending on engine). Get a medium-length bolt. Get a pry bar like this one (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00937341000P) and a piece of 2x4. Put the 2x4 on the bottom surface of the block. Thread the bolt through the keyhole-shaped hole in the pry bar. Put the end of the pry bar on the block of wood. Lift! Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Cox Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:11 PM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine Hey all! I'm trying to disassemble a spare 3-main 1600 engine and have everything off except the crank. I have the front and mid main caps off, but I can't get the rear cap to even budge (bolts are off, of course). Nothing. Not a single gap to get a screwdriver under, not a pounding on it with a rubber mallet, not tossing the whole lump across the garage. Nothing will get it to move. It's as if it is glued in place. Any ideas? Matthew in Phoenix Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 20:35:35 2008 From: "dave" To: "'roadster list'" Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:33:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Its alive Beside the broken springs etc. also check if you have a smog or non smog advance cam. Stamped 7.5 timing is 16 btdc, stamped 17.5 it's at TDC (zero degrees) I get a lot of cores with broken springs and also frozen weights. Is the vacuum advance hose on the front carb or manifold vacuum? If your distributor is all worn out, but you still want to stay with points, I get some VERY nice cores once in a while. Since I only use some of the parts, as long as the shaft is OK, I could swap a core for yours, I'm just going to disassemble it anyway, so I may as well trash a broken one Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: toolmansj2@comcast.net [mailto:toolmansj2@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:05 PM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] Its alive Finally got my car running. I am having a heck of a time setting the timing. seems to run good about 1200 rpm but then timing goes way out. If I lower the rpm I can get the timing in but engine runs rough. Any Clues -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 21:17:13 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "John F Sandhoff" , Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:09:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine The Nissan manual shows a bearing cap puller being used on the center main cap. It appears that all three main bearing caps on the three-main have threaded holes for such a tool. I cannot post attachments to the list, but I will send a scanned image of the tool to anyone who is interested. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine >> I have the front and mid main caps off, but I can't get the rear cap to >> even budge (bolts are off, of course). > > As I recall, and was mentioned by another lister, that rear cap has a > threaded hole in it. That's to allow a bearing cap puller to be threaded > in and used to pull the cap off. > > This is one of those times when the right tool is really handy. You > won't use it often, but it'll avoid the potential for a lot of damage. > > If you try something similar, be certain you don't screw anything into > the cap deep enough to hit the crank :-) > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 21:26:05 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: toolmansj2@comcast.net Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] a few questions with my start up (please help) > 1. All lights work except headlights any thing I can look for tried > 2 relays same result 1 of the 3 wires are hot to the headlights. You have a '69 :-) On '69 and '70, there is a separate fuse for each headlamp. The fuse provides +12 to the 'common' filament connection; and the other end is GROUNDED to light the bulb. The hi/low relay switches which filament goes to ground. Unless the internal contacts are cooked, you'll get either high or low to come on. The final ground (the on/off action) happens at the headlight switch. I suspect your switch is bad. After 40 years it gets grease and gunk on the internal contacts, and you have no lights. NOTE: The switch gets its ground via the heavy-ish black wire that bolts to the frame behind the steering box. Yup - the ground on these cars is quite sub-optimal. If that frame connection is dirty, lots and lots of weird things happen (lights brighten/dim along with flashers or brake lights, weird charging issues, etc etc). > 2.Leaky oil hose from block to distributor has any one cut out > the center hose and clamped a new center section in? Keith, didn't you reman some of these, along with the oil gauge to block hose?? > 3.Then there is the idle... I still vote for vacuum leak. OR... are you sure the cam timing is correct, and not off by a tooth? OR... could be fuel mixture OR... "if it's looks to be a fuel problem, then it'll turn out to be electrical..." What do compression readings look like? > NOW I JUST WANT TO DRIVE IT Engine runs OK at speed, right? Just never let off the gas :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 21:28:49 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: joek@camberconstruction.com Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:28:06 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine As Joe stated, I have used a slide hammer. I simply removed the sheet metal screw on the end of the hammer (for threading into a pre-drilled hole on a body panel and then popping the dent out), found a bolt that screwed into the hole on the main cap that is there (or is on a U20), literally duct taped the bolt tightly to the hammer with the head of the bolt against the housing that holds the sheet metal screw for support, and slide hammered it off... worked great! Greg Burrows -- "Joe Kinstle" wrote: I made a very simple puller for this, out of a scrap piece of angle iron, drilled 3 holes in it, middle hole was for a bolt to go into the cap, the other two got long threaded bolts with nuts under the angle iron. Took 5 minutes to build and worked like a charm. I think big box auto parts stores also rent pullers, if that is your preferred course of action. I've also seen a slide hammer used, worked fine also. Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John F Sandhoff Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:43 PM To: oscilloscope500@yahoo.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine > I have the front and mid main caps off, but I can't get the rear cap to > even budge (bolts are off, of course). As I recall, and was mentioned by another lister, that rear cap has a threaded hole in it. That's to allow a bearing cap puller to be threaded in and used to pull the cap off. This is one of those times when the right tool is really handy. You won't use it often, but it'll avoid the potential for a lot of damage. If you try something similar, be certain you don't screw anything into the cap deep enough to hit the crank :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Compete with the big boys. Click here to find products to benefit your business. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4t3HX3TjIJMiUtmAtu82uJaC zPzqFDdIZMln2ingYZTTc5F8/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 21:45:31 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: toolmansj2@comcast.net Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:44:19 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] a few questions with my start up (please help) Have you checked the balance on the carbs using a good meter? These things CANNOT be done by ear. That may also identify a vac leak that disappears as the engine revs up. Also try spraying carb cleaner around the intake gasket and other places. Does the vac advance work on the dizzy? Leaking diaphram maybe? You could plug the hose and see how it idles or if it will idle down now. Is it REALLY only rough at low rpms, or can you hear a miss in the exhaust at higher rpms if you listen next to it... might suggest a bad plug or plug wire that seems to smooth out but is still there, hiding in a faster running engine but shows up as a slight "pop, pop". Greg Burrows -- toolmansj2@comcast.net wrote: 1. All lights work except headlights any thing I can look for tried 2 relays same result 1 of the 3 wires are hot to the headlights. 2.Leaky oil hose from block to distributor has any one cut out the center hose and clamped a new center section in? New seems too expensive. 3.Then there is the idle I have the dwell set at 52 points gapped at about .018 and timing at 17degrees and cant get the engine to idle any lower than about 1000 rpm without roughness. The car holds a steady dwell while changing idle rpms timing seems to hold steady, but when I lower the idle speed it just wont run smooth. any clues. About my engine fresh rebuild on a u20, carbs were done by Kieth Williams block was bored 060 over reground A cam reground rockers new valves springs and seats and guides. New crank bearings seals pistons pins and rings NOW I JUST WANT TO DRIVE IT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS CAR FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS... -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Compete with the big boys. Click here to find products to benefit your business. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4t3HXPLhoDE1u2xAJZ6vMcLb uhpYjcho9qGDHDsj2EPmqI2i/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 22:09:18 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:05:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine I used a slide hammer, bolt, and some bailing wire. Yes, the handyman has Two secret weapons! Don't tell uncle Red. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Sep 25 23:43:53 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" , "John F Sandhoff" Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:43:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine Thread a bolt into the hole, and place some side pressure on it with your hand and strike the cap with a plastic, rubber, or dead blow hammer. You can even lightly tap on the bolt. I once even used a 2x4 with a hole through it. thread a bolt through the 2x4, making sure the 2x4 does not touch the cap. use other lumber pieces as spacers between the 2x4 ends and the oil pan bolt surface. Shim it tight, then tighten the bolt. (poor mans 2 arm puller.) the cap should pop when you tighten the bolt. if the bolt sinks into the wood, stop and try something else. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972 510 4 door Daisy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "John F Sandhoff" ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine > The Nissan manual shows a bearing cap puller being used on the center main > cap. It appears that all three main bearing caps on the three-main have > threaded holes for such a tool. I cannot post attachments to the list, > but > I will send a scanned image of the tool to anyone who is interested. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John F Sandhoff" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Beating on an Engine > > >>> I have the front and mid main caps off, but I can't get the rear cap to >>> even budge (bolts are off, of course). >> >> As I recall, and was mentioned by another lister, that rear cap has a >> threaded hole in it. That's to allow a bearing cap puller to be threaded >> in and used to pull the cap off. >> >> This is one of those times when the right tool is really handy. You >> won't use it often, but it'll avoid the potential for a lot of damage. >> >> If you try something similar, be certain you don't screw anything into >> the cap deep enough to hit the crank :-) >> >> -- John >> John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 26 06:59:34 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:59:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] New engine run-in, idle speed Shawn, While I certainly am far from a new engine run-in, 1000 rpm idle on a U-20 is not bad, certainly not a worry of generating heat to be a concern to stagnant cooling. The engine mounts are so loosey-goosey that I have found anything much under 900 is too much like a clothes dryer at stoplites (although I seldom take my clothes dryer to stoplites). Also, there are a lot of surfaces being run-in/lapped/cylinder hones being worn in at the moment, I don't think cam folks want you to run at low rpms (reduced oil pressure) for quite a while anyway. Enjoy the ride. A standard hydraulic hose shop should be able to make you a new distributor lube tube. Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 26 09:45:07 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: , "'roadster list'" Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:45:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] a few questions with my start up (please help) Thank you Shaun for asking the questions I needed answers to. Thank you John, Graeme, Greg, and Fergus for answering them!!! I think I can now hook up my secondary headlight relays (+ Hot = "common" from + Battery/alternator, and High/Low = ground - from stock relay). So easy even a caveman can do it! BTW, a PO removed the headlight switch completely and I have two toggles that operate the headlights and running lights separately. Dimmer is still operated with the turn signal switch though. If you wish to review this topic, please check out this link. It will explain everything you need to know about wiring headlights. Though it's for Toyota 4Runners, it explains the whole concept very well. We are looking for info about negative-switched circuits. http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Headlights.shtml My 70 U20 with Solex carbs has idle issues, 1200 minimum before the "washing machine" effect. It does have the symptoms Greg noted "Is it REALLY only rough at low rpms, or can you hear a miss in the exhaust at higher rpms if you listen next to it... might suggest a bad plug or plug wire that seems to smooth out but is still there, hiding in a faster running engine but shows up as a slight "pop, pop". I have the slight pop pop at higher rev's, and at freeway speed, 3500 - 4000, it will backfire once in a while. I don't so much hear it as feel it, because I'm going faster than the speed of sound!!! HAHAHAHA! It's Like a slight stumble. Plugs are good, wires are on order (Accel 4015), and carbs will be re-tuned today. I'll let y'all know what happens. Matt Smith, Chattanooga TN -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of toolmansj2@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:23 PM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] a few questions with my start up (please help) 1. All lights work except headlights any thing I can look for tried 2 relays same result 1 of the 3 wires are hot to the headlights. 2.Leaky oil hose from block to distributor has any one cut out the center hose and clamped a new center section in? New seems too expensive. 3.Then there is the idle I have the dwell set at 52 points gapped at about .018 and timing at 17degrees and cant get the engine to idle any lower than about 1000 rpm without roughness. The car holds a steady dwell while changing idle rpms timing seems to hold steady, but when I lower the idle speed it just wont run smooth. any clues. About my engine fresh rebuild on a u20, carbs were done by Kieth Williams block was bored 060 over reground A cam reground rockers new valves springs and seats and guides. New crank bearings seals pistons pins and rings NOW I JUST WANT TO DRIVE IT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS CAR FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS... -- 1969 2000 U20 2007 Titan 4x4 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 26 14:40:13 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:39:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Wiring Diagram I need a high quality scan of the 1968 wiring diagram from the owner's manual. Yes, I need the original NISSAN schematic; it makes finding my mistakes easier when making a color version. This high quality will not be on the 311s or most of the other sites as I spent the morning checking them first. Their copies will not zoom in without blurring and neither will mine. Scanning the page in black and white at 600 dpi will make a great reference point. This will result in a jpg somewhere around 3 MB in size. IRFANVIEW http://www.irfanview.net/ will pull that size down to about 500 KB if set to 99% at 300 dpi and the picture will retain very good quality on the zoom in. IRFANVIEW is free. If you can help me out with this, please let me know. If you need help with IRFANVIEW for this, I can talk you through it. Thanks! Jim SlowBoy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Sep 26 20:04:16 2008 From: "robert k. smith" To: "O'Farrell, Fergus" , Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:03:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] New engine run-in, idle speed shawn, i agree with fergus, 900-1000 rpm for the u-20 eng. is fine for several reasons: oil pressure is one. i dont like to see very low oil press. when idling( i realize that even when the gauge is showing zero, there is still 15-20 lbs. or more oil press.) another is, that the u-20 eng. is by design,a rough running 4 cyl. other 4 cyl's have balance shafts. for some reason, big displacement (2,2.5,3.0, liter) 4 cyl. eng. idle rough. i let my u-20 idle at 1000-1300 rpm. as the folks at nissan like to say, enjoy the ride! bob smith 69 srl311 > Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:59:30 -0500> From: Fergus.OFarrell@ngc.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] New engine run-in, idle speed> > Shawn,> While I certainly am far from a new engine run-in, 1000 rpm idle on a> U-20 is not bad, certainly not a worry of generating heat to be a> concern to stagnant cooling. The engine mounts are so loosey-goosey> that I have found anything much under 900 is too much like a clothes> dryer at stoplites (although I seldom take my clothes dryer to> stoplites).> Also, there are a lot of surfaces being run-in/lapped/cylinder hones> being worn in at the moment, I don't think cam folks want you to run at> low rpms (reduced oil pressure) for quite a while anyway.> Enjoy the ride. A standard hydraulic hose shop should be able to make> you a new distributor lube tube.> Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 27 09:09:20 2008 From: "Bill Oakes" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:09:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Paul Newman passes away Sad to hear, but he lived life his way - so glad he got that last run on the track this year. Some great pictures of his life at: http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-080513newman-photogallery,0,3870128.photogallery ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 27 10:43:58 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: boakes@gmail.com Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:42:24 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paul Newman passes away Yep. Quality guy. Greg Burrows -- "Bill Oakes" wrote: Sad to hear, but he lived life his way - so glad he got that last run on the track this year. Some great pictures of his life at: http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-080513newman-photogallery,0,3870128.photoga llery ____________________________________________________________ Click to become an artist and quit your boring job. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4tu8BgJHcQW2hrby7wze1Q5g U49qQ575Q5c4Sh760Rb4bnvA/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 27 11:27:19 2008 From: "Bill Oakes" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:27:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paul Newman passes away Sorry to add more to this somewhat off-topic, but things seem quiet and I have a fascination with this guy - better race related story about his life: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jtNqdWJp2ObJSxMMtLpOtaNsKh8AD93F6B501 On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Bill Oakes wrote: > Sad to hear, but he lived life his way - so glad he got that last run on > the track this year. Some great pictures of his life at: > > > http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-080513newman-photogallery,0,3870128.photogallery ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 27 14:59:14 2008 From: Dana Scribner To: , Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:58:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paul Newman passes away On Sept 5, 2008 they added a marker to Wakins Glen Walk of Frame for Paul Newman. His is in front od the Glen Theater. He had finished first in the 195 Atou-World Challenge diving a Nissan. Dana S > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:27:13 -0500> From: boakes@gmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paul Newman passes away> > Sorry to add more to this somewhat off-topic, but things seem quiet and I> have a fascination with this guy - better race related story about his life:> > http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jtNqdWJp2ObJSxMMtLpOtaNsKh8AD93F6B501> > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Bill Oakes wrote:> > > Sad to hear, but he lived life his way - so glad he got that last run on> > the track this year. Some great pictures of his life at:> >> >> > http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-080513newman-photogallery,0,3870128.photoga llery> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as dscrib2@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 27 16:43:52 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:43:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paul Newman passes away We have a couple of nice pictures of Paul Newman's Walk of Fame marker, will email them to anyone who asks. Gloria and John Klingman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Scribner" To: ; Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paul Newman passes away > On Sept 5, 2008 they added a marker to Wakins Glen Walk of Frame for Paul > Newman. His is in front od the Glen Theater. He had finished first in the > 195 > Atou-World Challenge diving a Nissan. > Dana S > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:27:13 -0500> From: boakes@gmail.com> > To: > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paul Newman > passes > away> > Sorry to add more to this somewhat off-topic, but things seem > quiet > and I> have a fascination with this guy - better race related story about > his > life:> > > http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jtNqdWJp2ObJSxMMtLpOtaNsKh8AD93F6B501> > > On > Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Bill Oakes wrote:> > > > Sad > to hear, but he lived life his way - so glad he got that last run on> > > the > track this year. Some great pictures of his life at:> >> >> > > http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-080513newman-photogallery,0,3870128.photoga > llery> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as > dscrib2@hotmail.com> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > _________________________________________________________________ > Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 > F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jklingman@stny.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Sep 27 20:53:55 2008 From: Steve Jacobson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Blinker issue When I took my car out this summer after it's winter hiatus, the right blinker was constantly on. Believing it might have been a bad switch, I removed the steering wheel and turn switch assembly, nothing shorted. The blinker kept blinking even with everything disconnected. Disconnecting the blinker relay stops everything. Could it be the blinker relay? Something else? I don't see it on the parts interchange list on 311s, is it commonly available? Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 08:16:33 2008 From: Pat To: jake7140@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:15:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Blinker issue Steve, My vote is for the emergency flasher switch. I'll bet it is pulled, which should cause both sides to flash, but the switches are known to get dirty, causing only one side to flash. Push the switch back in and your turn signals should work fine. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steve Jacobson: > When I took my car out this summer after it's winter hiatus, the right blinker > was constantly on. Believing it might have been a bad switch, I removed the > steering wheel and turn switch assembly, nothing shorted. The blinker kept > blinking even with everything disconnected. Disconnecting the blinker relay > stops everything. > > Could it be the blinker relay? Something else? I don't see it on the parts > interchange list on 311s, is it commonly available? > > Steve > > > > Steve's Racing web site > > www.NoNameRacing.com > > Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society > > www.elrss.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.4/1695 - Release Date: 9/27/2008 1:11 PM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 14:34:40 2008 From: rick celis To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 70 1600 Hello Everyone, I am debating whether or not to sell my 70 1600. I have owned it for 1 1/12 years and since then poured money into it to make it a daily driver. Now i am hurting for cash and where i live (SF) there is really no need to drive a car everyday. It has been sitting for months and i have to move it every week for street cleaning. I am feeling out the market to see if any one would be interested in buying the car and there is no better placeto start than this mailing list. Now as for the car i have since rebuilt the motor and carbs. Upgrading the suspension with new springs, shocks, comp sway bar, and isolators. put on a hard top but still have the soft top frame with no rag on it. i bought a beautiful set of rims for it that are too wide (14x7). I also have miata seats that i have to install with new speakers in them. As for the bad the car needs a tune up and a valve job. Cosmetically no serious cancer some surface rust. Last year during Thanksgiving i parked my car in a parking lot and someone hit the Driver side front fender. I want to get everyone's opinion of the car. I originally bought it for $3k and since invested about $2k. I was thinkg of asking for $4k. Please feel free to tell me your thoughts. Thank You Richard Celis 70 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 14:37:12 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:37:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Brake line fittings I need to replace some brake lines and was unable to find the correct fitting locally. (we tried three different stores in Madison.) I will make them myself if I can find the bits. Does any one know the correct thread type and pitch for the connection to the rear cylinder, the junction on the rear axle and the connection on the splitter on the firewall? Also, does someone know of a web site where I can order these parts? TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 15:59:24 2008 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: tputland@charter.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:59:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake line fittings Just buy the correct ones from one of our vendors. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 4:37 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Brake line fittings I need to replace some brake lines and was unable to find the correct fitting locally. (we tried three different stores in Madison.) I will make them myself if I can find the bits. Does any one know the correct thread type and pitch for the connection to the rear cylinder, the junction on the rear axle and the connection on the splitter on the firewall? Also, does someone know of a web site where I can order these parts? TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 17:25:27 2008 From: Tim To: davesmbox@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:25:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake line fittings The whole idea behind making my own lines is because I cannot afford to buy them from a vendor. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- davesmbox@aol.com wrote: ============= Just buy the correct ones from one of our vendors. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 4:37 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Brake line fittings I need to replace some brake lines and was unable to find the correct fitting locally. (we tried three different stores in Madison.) I will make them myself if I can find the bits. Does any one know the correct thread type and pitch for the connection to the rear cylinder, the junction on the rear axle and the connection on the splitter on the firewall? Also, does someone know of a web site where I can order these parts? TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 17:46:16 2008 From: Steve Jacobson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Blinker issue .... looking for the hazard switch on my 67.5...... Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:15:58 -0500 From: Pat Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Blinker issue To: jake7140@yahoo.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Message-ID: <48DF919E.2070507@HorneSystemsTx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Steve, My vote is for the emergency flasher switch. I'll bet it is pulled, which should cause both sides to flash, but the switches are known to get dirty, causing only one side to flash. Push the switch back in and your turn signals should work fine. Peace, Pat ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 20:40:56 2008 From: pat@hornesystemstx.com To: jake7140@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:40:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Blinker issue It's below the dash against the driver's door. There is a triangle shaped metal support from the dash to the door post. The switch is mounted there. If it is not there, check to see if there is a harness connector behind the triangle with a shorting plug in it. If the shorting plug is there then you don't have a hazard switch. Peace, Pat -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Blinker issue From: Steve Jacobson Date: Sun, September 28, 2008 4:46 pm To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net .... looking for the hazard switch on my 67.5...... Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:15:58 -0500 From: Pat Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Blinker issue To: jake7140@yahoo.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Message-ID: <48DF919E.2070507@HorneSystemsTx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Steve, My vote is for the emergency flasher switch. I'll bet it is pulled, which should cause both sides to flash, but the switches are known to get dirty, causing only one side to flash. Push the switch back in and your turn signals should work fine. Peace, Pat ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://aut ox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 20:54:31 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: , Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:53:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Blinker issue Steve, In reply to your other question, pull the blinker unit and look at the posts. Any aftermarket blinker/flasher unit should work as long as the posts are the same. They typically come in 2, 3, or 4 post types for a few bucks each. Matt Smith (had a similar problem a year ago) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:54 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Blinker issue When I took my car out this summer after it's winter hiatus, the right blinker was constantly on. Believing it might have been a bad switch, I removed the steering wheel and turn switch assembly, nothing shorted. The blinker kept blinking even with everything disconnected. Disconnecting the blinker relay stops everything. Could it be the blinker relay? Something else? I don't see it on the parts interchange list on 311s, is it commonly available? Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 21:26:17 2008 From: Steve Jacobson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Blinker Issue [solved] (RED face) Many thanks, to all. That's it. Since I have a hood pin, I've never noticed anything down there. Although the blinker can was in the area, I just must have overlooked the 'FF' knob. Even when I looked through the owners manual online, just stopped my search at the dash area diagram. Didn't think these even had a hazard flasher. Must have caught it trying to wiggle out of the tight racing seat. Cleaned off some bulbs, hooked up a loose rear wire, fully functional again! Now I can keep my hand warm and dry when I turn, and (not) break down on the side of the road (track) safely. I'll go play with my Lincoln Logs now. Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:15:58 -0500 From: Pat Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Blinker issue To: jake7140@yahoo.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Message-ID: <48DF919E.2070507@HorneSystemsTx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Steve, My vote is for the emergency flasher switch. I'll bet it is pulled, which should cause both sides to flash, but the switches are known to get dirty, causing only one side to flash. Push the switch back in and your turn signals should work fine. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steve Jacobson: > When I took my car out this summer after it's winter hiatus, the right blinker > was constantly on. Believing it might have been a bad switch, I removed the > steering wheel and turn switch assembly, nothing shorted. The blinker kept > blinking even with everything disconnected. Disconnecting the blinker relay > stops everything. > > Could it be the blinker relay? Something else? I don't see it on the parts > interchange list on 311s, is it commonly available? > > Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 23:17:50 2008 From: Stan Chernoff To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:48:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] ROADSTER PARTS FOR SALE I apologize if you receive this a second time. I made previous attempts and it did not seem to go to the list distribution. Wife says to get rid of stuff. This is a downsize project from more than 25 years of collecting and hoarding and most items can't or won't be replaced. Prices in most cases are lower than vendor sites or are not available anywhere else. I tried to post this early this morning and it didn't seem to get through the system? I made a few revisions. QUANTITIES ARE LIMITED AND MOST ITEMS WON'T OR CAN'T BE REPLACED R-16/G-15 REMANUFACTURED ROCKER SHAFT ASSEMBLY. Assemblies are available for Metric and SAE cylinder heads. The shaft has been hard chromed and ground back to the original diameter. The rocker arms have bronze bushings installed and the tips have been resurfaced. New hardware including springs, washers, plugs and pins have been used. There is a core charge that will be refunded when a rebuildable core has been received. Price is $135. 65-70 TOP BOOT - Black stayfast . This is a cloth part that is very nice. Price is $155. 1600/2000 NEW SLOTTED BRAKE ROTORS. Price is $235 per matched pair. 1600/2000 NEW PLAIN BRAKE ROTORS. Price is $215 per pair. U-20 2000 CYLINDER HEAD - New in the original box. Price is $1840. RARE!!! R-16 1600 CYLINDER HEAD - Aluminum non-smog head New in original box. Price is $795. VERY RARE!!! BRAND NEW 1600 3-MAIN CYLINDER BLOCK Never used empty block with cosmoline in bores with new standard pistons/rings/pins. Price is $485. Crank, bearings, timing components and gaskets are available. REMANUFACTURED 3-MAIN SHORT BLOCK - New .020" domed pistons, new genuine Nissan camshaft - not a regrind, new lifters, new U-20 oil pump, new timing gears and chain, all new bearings block painted original color and more. This was remanufactured by the original Rising Sun Racing in Georgia. Price is $1965, Item has been stored in a closed building since receipt from RSR. U-20 2000 WATER PUMP - Genuine Nissan New in box. Price is $124. R-16 1600 WATER PUMP - For 67.5 engines but can be used on early 1600 and 1500. Cast iron impeller. Made in Japan. Price is $95. R-16 1600 Timing kit for 67.5 to 1970 engines. Includes chain, cam gear, crank gear and tensioner. Price is $118. R-16 1600 oil pump. This is a new genuine Nissan pump that has been modified by using a good used roadster bottom plate to operate as new. Price is $125. EI DISTRIBUTOR WITH VACUUM ADVANCE FOR SU carburetor roadsters - All electronic with vacuum advance - fits 1600 or 2000 with SU carburetors . Far superior to points or points replacement distributors. Non-smog advance curve with 15 degree maximum mechanical advance at crankshaft as in original factory setup. This distributor has been built using an original Nissan electronic distributor and converted to suit roadsters by using parts from an original roadster distributor and some newly manufactured components. Has original roadster non-smog advance weights, springs and cam plate to provide exact roadster timing curve. Includes new cap and rotor. The original vacuum advance plate has been upgraded with a newly fabricated bearing carrier with bearings so it is superior to and more durable than the original Nissan part that was prone to fail. The person in Wyoming that started making similar distributors in quantity (mass marketing) provided a sample part several years back. Price is $260. A model for Solex equipped engines without vacuum advance is available. No core required. 1967.5 2000 REMANUFACTURED GAUGES - 160MPH Speedometer and 8000 RPM Tachometer pair. These have newly reprinted dial faces and have been precisely calibrated. Price is $625. Also available is a complete remanufactured set suitable for 67.5 2000 that includes Speedo, Tach, Clock, oil/temp and amp/fuel. Price is $1035. These gauges can also be used for 67.5 1600. 68-70 NEW LEFT QUARTER PANEL (FENDER) - This is a 1970 new in factory primer that will fit all 68 and later cars. It can also be used as a skin for 67.5 cars. Price is $405. Prefer local pickup. 2000/1600 CLUTCH KIT - Includes: genuine Nissan 650KG pressure plate, Japanese OEM clutch disc, throwout bearing made in Japan, pilot bushing and 3 clutch cover dowel pins. Also fits early 510 and used as high performance. Price is $235. 65-70 CLUTCH MASTER CYLINDER. Aftermarket type with reservoir in correct location and adjustable pushrod. Price is $35. 67.5-70 DUAL RESERVOIR BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER - Non original but genuine NABCO brand with correct 3/4" bore. Pushrod and metric to SAE tubing adapters are included. No modification to existing car or brake lines required. This is a low cost alternative to scarce and expensive original cylinders. Price is $175. New original roadster cylinder available at current market price. Other options available - ask. 65-67 SINGLE RESERVOIR BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER - Aftermarket cylinder with adjustable pushrod. Correct 3/8-24 brake line connection thread. It is necessary to replace the reservoir with the one from the original cylinder. The brake line connection is on the top instead of the side and will require change of the brake line or adding a short line with adapter to connect to the original brake line. Price is $49. FUEL PUMP - 1600/2000 Aftermarket Assembled in USA. Price is $56. 68-70 NOS ORIGINAL NISSAN BLACK DOOR PANELS. "RARE" Still in factory wrappers with clips. $285 per pair. 67.5-70 DOOR PILLAR CAPS. These are genuine Nissan. Price is $42 per pair. 63-69e IDLER BOX CAP - NOS NISSAN. Price is $23.99 63-70 DOOR WEATHERSTRIP - Aftermarket type with round seal. Better than original. Price is $46 for both doors. 67.5-70 REPRODUCTION BATTERY HOLD DOWN AND TRAY. Tray is powdercoated. This fits cars using group 24 batteries. Price is $39. 8 mm HEX NUTS - These are the nuts that have the hard to find 12mm hex size that Nissan used for manifolds and carburetors. They are hard to find since most hardware stores sell the 13mm hex type. Price is $4.95 for 20 nuts. 63-67.5 NEW LOW WINDSHIELD GLASS - Fits 1500, 1600 and 2000. Aftermarket with light tint U.S. DOT approved. Price is $445. 40mm MIKUNI SOLEX CARBS - Pair of new NOS in Nissan factory box. Can be used for U-20 or stroked pushrod engine OR?. NLA at Nissan. Price is $795. Intake manifolds for G-15,R16,H20 and U20 engines are available. MIKUNI CARB KITS FOR 40 AND 44 PHH CARBS - These are genuine kits and sold in pairs. Price is $35 per pair. 68-70 U-20 2000 S-U CARBURETORS -Brand new pair (Front and rear) never used. Price is $815. NLA from Nissan. URETHANE COMP SWAY BAR BUSHING KIT - Suitable for 23mm or 7/8"(22.2mm) Same as sold by Motorsports. 4 urethane pieces w/fasteners, instructions and special grease. Price is $29 per set. NEW COMPLETE 10 PC U-20 TIMING SET. Included are 2 new Nissan tensioners (upper and lower), 2 new Nissan timing chain guides (upper and lower), 4 new made in USA timing gears and 2 new USA made timing chains. Price is $985. U-20 Timing component set (Same as above) with Nissan 2L oil pump Price is $1493. U-20 10 Piece Timing component set with Nissan U-20 oil pump, Nissan O.040" oversize flat top pistons with rings, rod bearings, main bearings, jackshaft bearings, timing cover gaskets, pan gasket, freeze plugs, front and rear crank seals, head gasket, manifold gasket, valve stem seals. Price is $2390. Note: 2L oil pumps are NLA from Nissan USA/Japan. Bearings sets are available in most sizes. FIREWALL BRAKE BRACE - For all LHD cars with dual reservoir master cylinders. These are the ones from the original supplier and much better than the copies with smashed threads. Price is $23. Questions will be answered by email. Shipping is not included in pricing. Some items are local pickup only. ===================================== ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 29 05:58:27 2008 From: "Eric A. Isaacson" To: Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:57:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Weight of door guts Greetings, I remember reading about putting a proper size weight in a door (when all of the internals have been removed for painting) when mounting the door to ensure that the body lines will align when the door is fully rebuilt. As I recall, this technique was performed for painting, during a frame-off restoration, for example. Could someone refresh my memory on this? Seemed like it was 15-20 pounds or so. Thank you, Eric Isaacson 1968 Datsun 1600 Sports Fort Wayne, IN ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 29 09:10:53 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:07:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Header/exhaust system Just bringing up an old thread that perhaps our vendors should take note of....... Anyone buildiing an exhaust system for their car should read this thread: http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/1162-exhaust-system-design. html Lots of good info there, as well as some good links for further reading....... Cheers Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 29 12:34:05 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:33:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Coolant Temp. gauge question Group, My 1970 1600 has never had a functioning temp gauge. I purchased an aftermarket gauge that came with several different brass fitting that hold the copper sensor to the head. I've seen other 1600's that have the temp sensor installed at the front (left side) of the head. On my car there is a fitting installed into the head which is attached to a rubber hose which is attached to a 90 degree tube that goes to a fitting at the front of the intake manifold. Do I need this current setup? Is it factory? Can I put a "T" fitting off of the head so I can install the temp sensor and re-attach the hose and tubing that run to the intake manifold? Or, is there another location on the head were the sensor could be installed? Sorry for so many questions. Thanks Steve Harvey ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 29 13:16:46 2008 From: pat@hornesystemstx.com To: "Steve Harvey" Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:16:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Coolant Temp. gauge question Steve, Look under where that fitting on the head -s and I believe you will find the location of the original sender. That's where mine is. Peace, Pat -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Roadsters] Coolant Temp. gauge question From: "Steve Harvey" Date: Mon, September 29, 2008 11:33 am To: Group, My 1970 1600 has never had a functioning temp gauge. I purchased an aftermarket gauge that came with several different brass fitting that hold the copper sensor to the head. I've seen other 1600's that have the temp sensor installed at the front (left side) of the head. On my car there is a fitting installed into the head which is attached to a rubber hose which is attached to a 90 degree tube that goes to a fitting at the front of the intake manifold. Do I need this current setup? Is it factory? Can I put a "T" fitting off of the head so I can install the temp sensor and re-attach the hose and tubing that run to the intake manifold? Or, is there another location on the head were the sensor could be installed? Sorry for so many questions. Thanks Steve Harvey ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://aut ox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 29 17:33:49 2008 From: Gary tew To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox.Team.Net" Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:32:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] soft top boot install I picked up a top boot from Stan (very high quality, BTW). I need some install pics specifically showing the location of and snaps and twisties inside the cockpit. I have installed the rear bar and all of the external hardware. Any help help and guidance much appreciated. Gary Tew Peoria, AZ '67 1600 (VG30) www.members.cox.net/garytew ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Sep 29 18:03:28 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Eric A. Isaacson'" , Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:33:14 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weight of door guts/door opening brace. Hi Eric, Not specifically answering your Q, but on advice from various sources, I made up a pair of door opening braces to keep the body shell in alignment whilst doing a complete body off restoration. I hung the doors while the body was fully supported from underneath, checked the alignment, removed the doors, then constructed the braces you see. The body is now on a rotisserie but the braces positively hold the door openings in the correct location. The pics. Start at this location: - http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/223 "I remember reading about putting a proper size weight in a door (when all of the internals have been removed for painting) when mounting the door to ensure that the body lines will align when the door is fully rebuilt. As I recall, this technique was performed for painting, during a frame-off restoration, for example. Could someone refresh my memory on this? Seemed like it was 15-20 pounds or so. Thank you, Eric Isaacson" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 00:49:26 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 63 ended on Ebay (Item number: 230290511297) What the heck, guys??? Why did no one bid on this beautiful car? Befuddled, Patti ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 04:41:47 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:41:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Temp Sensor Group, Thanks for the replies. There's only one threaded fitting on the front of the intake manifold so I plan on installing a "T" which will allow me to install the temp. sensor and leave the current piping that runs to the manifold. This should solve the problem. Now to figure out where to install the temp gauge in the dash area so it looks good but won't cause a trip to the clinic for stitches. Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 06:03:51 2008 From: Mark Dent To: fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:03:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 63 ended on Ebay (Item number: 230290511297) Because if you follow Ebay you have seen it many times..... He bought it about 2 years ago on Ebay needing a lot of body work. It showed up back on Ebay 2 weeks later with shiny red paint for 4 times as much..... Not exactly quality work. Look at the photos again and you will see huge holes in the lower doors where someone mounted speakers, also missing all of the hard parts (side trim, hubcaps, etc) Mark On Sep 30, 2008, at 2:44 AM, Patti Dwinell wrote: > What the heck, guys??? Why did no one bid on this beautiful car? > Befuddled, > Patti > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark@dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 10:29:09 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Steve Harvey" , Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:24:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp Sensor Steve, If this is indeed a 1600 R series engine/head, there are 2 theaded holes in front of the #1 cylinder exhaust manifold. If there is not it has been welded up, or it is not a 1600 head. I believe the 1500 head is the same, don't know about an H20 head. If there is not one there, you may not have a 1600 R series engine even...... I would suggest you have a VERY close look at it. You may be able to tell if it has been welded up or has a plug in it......... A picture of the area, with a link, because attachments are deleted at the server, would be helpful. Are you sure the stock temp sensor does't wotk? Daryl From: "Steve Harvey" > Group, > > > > Thanks for the replies. There's only one threaded fitting on the front of > the intake manifold so I plan on installing a "T" which will allow me to > install the temp. sensor and leave the current piping that runs to the > manifold. This should solve the problem. Now to figure out where to > install > the temp gauge in the dash area so it looks good but won't cause a trip to > the clinic for stitches. > > Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 10:56:47 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:52:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp Sensor Sreve, Which fitting are you using? If you could post a pic somewhere that would be good to see. thanks, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Steve Harvey To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 3:41 am Subject: [Roadsters] Temp Sensor Group, Thanks for the replies. There's only one threaded fitting on the front of the intake manifold so I plan on installing a "T" which will allow me to install the temp. sensor and leave the current piping that runs to the manifold. This should solve the problem. Now to figure out where to install the temp gauge in the dash area so it looks good but won't cause a trip to the clinic for stitches. Steve You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 12:44:21 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:41:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp Sensor Dah! Found the sensor below! I must have looked in that area 20 times in the last two days. I feel like an idiot. At least now I know I have a sensor installed but the question remains, is the sensor bad, the wiring or the gauge. I turned on the ignition and put my test light on the wire and sensor and got a pulse on the light. I cleaned the brass connector on the sensor and the brass connector on the wire. I started the engine and let it run for around = hour. I put my 12V tester light on the sensor again and got the same pulse reading. Is it correct in saying that you will get a pulse on the sensor connector until the thermocouple responds to the coolant temperature which will then send a constant 12V signal back to the gauge? Thanks Steve Harvey ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 12:47:42 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:48:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp Sensor Here are pics: If the above links get broken, here are TinyURL links: Hope this helps. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:25 AM To: Steve Harvey; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp Sensor Steve, If this is indeed a 1600 R series engine/head, there are 2 theaded holes in front of the #1 cylinder exhaust manifold. If there is not it has been welded up, or it is not a 1600 head. I believe the 1500 head is the same, don't know about an H20 head. If there is not one there, you may not have a 1600 R series engine even...... I would suggest you have a VERY close look at it. You may be able to tell if it has been welded up or has a plug in it......... A picture of the area, with a link, because attachments are deleted at the server, would be helpful. Are you sure the stock temp sensor does't wotk? Daryl From: "Steve Harvey" > Group, > > > > Thanks for the replies. There's only one threaded fitting on the front > of the intake manifold so I plan on installing a "T" which will allow > me to install the temp. sensor and leave the current piping that runs > to the manifold. This should solve the problem. Now to figure out > where to install the temp gauge in the dash area so it looks good but > won't cause a trip to the clinic for stitches. > > Steve Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 12:50:27 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:51:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp Sensor Short the sensor lead to ground. A good gauge will peg to the right. Same-same for the gas gauge. Are both the gas and water temp gauges off/not working? If so, problem is the instrument voltage regulator. Perennial topic. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:41 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Temp Sensor Dah! Found the sensor below! I must have looked in that area 20 times in the last two days. I feel like an idiot. At least now I know I have a sensor installed but the question remains, is the sensor bad, the wiring or the gauge. I turned on the ignition and put my test light on the wire and sensor and got a pulse on the light. I cleaned the brass connector on the sensor and the brass connector on the wire. I started the engine and let it run for around = hour. I put my 12V tester light on the sensor again and got the same pulse reading. Is it correct in saying that you will get a pulse on the sensor connector until the thermocouple responds to the coolant temperature which will then send a constant 12V signal back to the gauge? Thanks Steve Harvey Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 13:07:30 2008 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:05:45 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake line fittings Wow! That's unusual. I have an early model roadster with SAE threads but, had no trouble finding the fittings. I would assume yours would have metric threads that are standard as well. I replaced every steel line on my Roadster with various length tubing sections from NAPA. I cut off the ends to length, put the fitting back on, and then re-flared the line. I trashed several sections by not getting the correct bends but, after a little trial and error you get better at it. Hardest part is re-flaring the ends. Unless you buy a high end flaring tool, it can be a real pain. If you're only doing a couple of sections, you may not want to invest in the high dollar flaring tool. Dan McHatton '66 1600 ____________________________________________________________ Click for information on obtaining a VA loan. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iifTKSCrOmwiQiAlmYmJkeziXZos wO3c72IqOEaIladS035hc/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 13:47:01 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:46:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake line fittings When discussing brake lines, it was written: > I have an early model roadster with SAE threads... I would assume > yours would have metric threads that are standard as well. As I recall, ALL Roadster years have the same brake fittings. They did not change year to year, like engine and body pieces. I believe they are all SAE but don't quote me - they are DIFFERENT than 510 and other Nissan of that era. The fit is very close and you may not notice the difference, but as I've said before "please don't trust your life to an 'almost' fit...". Be SURE you have the correct fittings! Why I'm really writing is because I read this: > Hardest part is re-flaring the ends. Unless you buy a high end flaring > tool, it can be a real pain. The author didn't make it explicitly clear that brake lines MUST be double-flared. That's not an option - they MUST be double-flared. That's where the end is 'folded' into the pipe and makes a solid double-walled flare. A single flare can pull loose, crack, and fail in other ways as well. This is YOUR life, your passengers, pedestrians, the car in front of you.... Brake lines MUST be double flared. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 14:50:28 2008 From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'" Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:50:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ROADSTER PARTS FOR SALE Where is "Local Pickup"? Do you have any pictures anywhere? Rich '68 1600 (not running yet) Orange County, CA http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun# ****************************************************** 68-70 NEW LEFT QUARTER PANEL (FENDER) - This is a 1970 new in factory primer that will fit all 68 and later cars. It can also be used as a skin for 67.5 cars. Price is $405. Prefer local pickup. Questions will be answered by email. Shipping is not included in pricing. Some items are local pickup only. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Sep 30 20:39:08 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:13:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake line fittings ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sandhoff" > > The author didn't make it explicitly clear that brake lines MUST be > double-flared. That's not an option - they MUST be double-flared. > That's where the end is 'folded' into the pipe and makes a solid > double-walled flare. A single flare can pull loose, crack, and fail in > other ways as well. This is YOUR life, your passengers, pedestrians, > the car in front of you.... Brake lines MUST be double flared. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA I just want to emphasize the above. And to add that it doesn't hurt to do the same with your gas lines! Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters