From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 01:24:20 2008 From: Les Cannaday To: 311 List , 510LIST Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS&Reunion To those of you planning to attend the JCCS car show in So Cal on Oct 12th we have a small surprise bonus. If you are coming in early like the 11 th you may wish to sign up for the reunion of the BRE race team. This is a small get together and has very few seats left and will be held in a nice resturant so no one will be allowed to bring the hood off your car to be autographed if you know what I mean The event will cost $45 for dinner and the entertainment. It is sponsered by our race group and details for sign up are at VSRG.org and there will be some new surprises from BRE2 and VSRG will do a DVD availible on preorder basis that evening. We cannot take anyone when it sells out so if you think you are coming you need to sign up right away. Thanks and this could be a once in a lifetime event. Les Les Cannaday Classic Datsun Motorsports 345 Olive Ave Vista, CA 92083 (760)940-6365 (866)288-8340 fax ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 11:31:38 2008 From: alvin gogineni To: , 311 List , Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:14:43 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] JCCS&Reunion My glovebox door willl fit nicely betwen the salad and bread plates at the dinner table.Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:56:13 -0700> From: les@classicdatsun.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; BLUEBIRDS@bluebirds.datsun510.com> Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS&Reunion> > To those of you planning to attend the JCCS car show in So Cal on Oct 12th we> have a small surprise bonus. If you are coming in early like the 11 th you may> wish to sign up for the reunion of the BRE race team. This is a small get> together and has very few seats left and will be held in a nice resturant so> no one will be allowed to bring the hood off your car to be autographed if you> know what I mean The event will cost $45 for dinner and the entertainment. It> is sponsered by our race group and details for sign up are at VSRG.org and> there will be some new surprises from BRE2 and VSRG will do a DVD availible on> preorder basis that evening. We cannot take anyone when it sells out so if you> think you are coming you need to sign up right away. Thanks and this could be> a once in a lifetime event.> Les > > Les Cannaday> Classic Datsun Motorsports> 345 Olive Ave> Vista, CA 92083> (760)940-6365> (866)288-8340 fax> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as alvingogi@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 15:43:32 2008 From: "datsun parts.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Ordering Information Page Updated If you are one of our customers, please take the time to read this page as changes have been made. Dean www.datsunparts.com/ordering.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 15:58:28 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:40:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules what the heck? I listed a few things non-roadster this week on ebay and discovered that a seller can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback for a purchaser. what the heck? I've had purchasers jerk me around on payment before but evidently under the new rules they could give a seller negative feedback with no just cause but a seller could not tell anyone if they were a slow pay by way of feedback... can only file a non-paying bidder something if they are past the payment time required by the auction. anyone else notice this? your thoughts? can't friggin believe it...is there some way this makes sense and I'm just missing it? Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 16:44:27 2008 From: Robert Keen To: chalsted Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:48:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules what the heck? Craig- eBay has had this altered feedback policy since spring 2008. Sometime in October they will prohibit payments with checks and money orders for items in most categories. Sellers will have to use paypal, or a merchant account, or something called propay. In many categories, eBay is setting maximum shipping charges. eBay users have been upset. Check the eBay Discussion Boards (under "Community"), especially those titled Feedback, PayPal, and Seller Central. The eBay we've been accustomed to has effectively died. With better than 1000 positive feedback notices and zero negatives, this makes me unhappy. It's their sandbox, however. --Bob 68 1600 U.P., Michigan ============================================= On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, chalsted wrote: > I listed a few things non-roadster this week on ebay and discovered that a > seller can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback for a purchaser. what > the heck? I've had purchasers jerk me around on payment before but evidently > under the new rules they could give a seller negative feedback with no just > cause but a seller could not tell anyone if they were a slow pay by way of > feedback... can only file a non-paying bidder something if they are past the > payment time required by the auction. anyone else notice this? your thoughts? > can't friggin believe it...is there some way this makes sense and I'm just > missing it? > Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 16:45:52 2008 From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, chalsted Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:23:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules what the heck? It has been this way for a couple months or so. And it sucks. I had one person refuse to pay because shipping was "too high". I am guessing this person has not shipped anything lately and seen what fuel costs have done to shipping costs. Ebay sucks all around now. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- chalsted wrote: ============= I listed a few things non-roadster this week on ebay and discovered that a seller can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback for a purchaser. what the heck? I've had purchasers jerk me around on payment before but evidently under the new rules they could give a seller negative feedback with no just cause but a seller could not tell anyone if they were a slow pay by way of feedback... can only file a non-paying bidder something if they are past the payment time required by the auction. anyone else notice this? your thoughts? can't friggin believe it...is there some way this makes sense and I'm just missing it? Craig You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 16:59:47 2008 From: "s.ulrich" To: chalsted Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:30:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules what the heck? I thought it was a lousy way to solve the problem too (retaliatory feedback), even never having sold there before it seems like a real shaft to the sellers. All they needed to do was hold both feedback ratings and not display them until both were in. That way, one party couldn't hold the other party's feedback "hostage", as was apparently the problem they were trying to solve. chalsted wrote: > I listed a few things non-roadster this week on ebay and discovered that a > seller can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback for a purchaser. what > the heck? I've had purchasers jerk me around on payment before but evidently > under the new rules they could give a seller negative feedback with no just > cause but a seller could not tell anyone if they were a slow pay by way of > feedback... can only file a non-paying bidder something if they are past the > payment time required by the auction. anyone else notice this? your thoughts? > can't friggin believe it...is there some way this makes sense and I'm just > missing it? > Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 17:43:29 2008 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: chalsted , Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:26:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules what the heck? I'd been doing ebay successfully for ten years and never had any serious problems until I bought some video games. I got substituted and/or broken and/or defective merchandise several times. Long story short: I left negative feedback and was surprised to then receive several very hostile feedbacks to the effect that I was trying to rip them off and that I was a big fraud, when just the opposite was true. It was getting to be pretty ridiculous and this is about the only way ebay could solve the problem. I think you can still respond to feedback left for you as a seller, but you can't leave bare feedback for a buyer. Also, as a seller, if somebody doesn't pay then don't send the stuff. It's an inconvenience, but for a buyer it really sucks to send the money plus shipping charges and receive a box full of garbage and have limited recourse - regardless of what your credit card company tells you. My 2 cents worth. Greg SRL31100494 On 10/1/08 2:40 PM, "chalsted" wrote: > I listed a few things non-roadster this week on ebay and discovered that a > seller can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback for a purchaser. what > the heck? I've had purchasers jerk me around on payment before but evidently > under the new rules they could give a seller negative feedback with no just > cause but a seller could not tell anyone if they were a slow pay by way of > feedback... can only file a non-paying bidder something if they are past the > payment time required by the auction. anyone else notice this? your thoughts? > can't friggin believe it...is there some way this makes sense and I'm just > missing it? > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 18:15:31 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:51:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Stock Ignition Can someone with a stock 70 tell me which wires are hooked up to their coil and resistor? I no longer have the second 70 to look at and the car is calling the schematic a liar. Thanks! Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 18:31:25 2008 From: conrad abastillas To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] '64 parts/disc brakes conv. WTB I'm looking to see if anyone out there has any '64 parts lying around namely the 4 guages and switches for the '64, already got the speedo/tach from mike young but he didn't have the others, I'll buy all if no one wants to parts out as I understand. Also I want to convert to disc brake on the fairlady, drums in the front scare me as I drove a friends '73 620 pickup LOL.... I'm located in antioch,ca and would love to have something local to pickup. conrad antioch,ca 650-302-5127 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 19:47:13 2008 From: Mark Dent To: conrad abastillas Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:28:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '64 parts/disc brakes conv. WTB The brake conversion is not hard. The parts from any later Roadster will swap right over. You will not be able to run the 13 inch wheels though..... Mark On Oct 1, 2008, at 8:12 PM, conrad abastillas wrote: > I'm looking to see if anyone out there has any '64 parts lying > around namely the 4 guages and switches for the '64, already got the > speedo/tach from mike young but he didn't have the others, I'll buy > all if no one wants to parts out as I understand. > > Also I want to convert to disc brake on the fairlady, drums in the > front scare me as I drove a friends '73 620 pickup LOL.... > > I'm located in antioch,ca and would love to have something local to > pickup. > > conrad > antioch,ca > 650-302-5127 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark@dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 21:36:39 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: SlowBoy Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1970 Stock Ignition WOW! Your car does that too?! And I'm the original owner so I can't put the blame on anyone! Patti 64 SPL310 --- On Wed, 10/1/08, SlowBoy wrote: From: SlowBoy Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Stock Ignition To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:51 PM Can someone with a stock 70 tell me which wires are hooked up to their coil and resistor? I no longer have the second 70 to look at and the car is calling the schematic a liar. Thanks! Jim You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 21:39:52 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: conrad abastillas Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '64 parts/disc brakes conv. WTB Conrad, If you're still running it positive ground, be real careful what guages you put in. They have to be positive ground too. Patti --- On Wed, 10/1/08, conrad abastillas wrote: From: conrad abastillas Subject: [Roadsters] '64 parts/disc brakes conv. WTB To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 5:12 PM I'm looking to see if anyone out there has any '64 parts lying around namely the 4 guages and switches for the '64, already got the speedo/tach from mike young but he didn't have the others, I'll buy all if no one wants to parts out as I understand. Also I want to convert to disc brake on the fairlady, drums in the front scare me as I drove a friends '73 620 pickup LOL.... I'm located in antioch,ca and would love to have something local to pickup. conrad antioch,ca 650-302-5127 You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 00:17:37 2008 From: Peter Jones To: chalsted , Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:50:55 +0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules what the heck? I had the same problem here in OZ. I sold a turbo to a person then he decided he did not want it. Still paid so product sent and then he opened a no as described claim in paypal. I won the claim as item sent was item listed but still could not leave a negative feedback. Contacted ebay and they are reveiwing sellers side of things. Now if a buyer wants to leave neg feedback it can be posted on ebay but will not be listed for 3 days and emails will be sent to buyer to confirm neg feedback to be left. Ebay have made it a little harder for buyer in feedback as they monitor how many negs they leave in a short period and will suspend them if to many left, but they have made it even harder for the seller to survive as if you get 3 strikes your out of action for a while. In australia we can still pay with all payment options and not just paypal and the Anti corruption Comission got involved and ruled against ebay/paypal. Same company so it can't be done here. Peter j> From: chalsted@comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:40:00 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules what the heck?> > I listed a few things non-roadster this week on ebay and discovered that a> seller can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback for a purchaser. what> the heck? I've had purchasers jerk me around on payment before but evidently> under the new rules they could give a seller negative feedback with no just> cause but a seller could not tell anyone if they were a slow pay by way of> feedback... can only file a non-paying bidder something if they are past the> payment time required by the auction. anyone else notice this? your thoughts?> can't friggin believe it...is there some way this makes sense and I'm just> missing it?> Craig _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 12:52:43 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:02:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules what the heck? I kind of understand the shipping fee part of the changes in some ways. I have purchased bluetooth ear pieces on eBay and many times the seller sets the buy it now price at $0.99 while the shipping is set at $19.95 or higher. This way eBay sees a 99 cent sale and the seller gets most of the shipping. To the buyer the cost is about what is expected, so what the heck, it is no skin off of the buyers nose. This happens all the time on eBay, so I am sure they are trying to balance the sale price with reasonable shipping, which of course increases their income. At one point I considered opening a store to sell items on eBay for customers. I have already sold cars, airplanes, and many other fairly expensive items for friends on eBay. For these items it might be worth to have a listing agent involved, but for the small items the cost to list the item, pack the item, and then try to make enough money to cover the time to prepare and post the ad on eBay is way more than the seller thinks is reasonable. And it is. Tom Portland On 10/1/2008 10:50:55 PM, Peter Jones (dato1500@hotmail.com) wrote: > I had the same problem here in OZ. > I sold a turbo to a person then he decided he did not want it. Still paid > so > product sent and then he opened a no as described claim in paypal. I won > the > claim as item sent was item listed but still could not leave a negative > feedback. Contacted ebay and they are reveiwing sellers side of things. > Now if > a buyer wants to leave neg feedback it can be posted on ebay but will not > be > listed for 3 days and emails will be sent to buyer to confirm neg feedback > to > be left. Ebay have made it a little harder for buyer in feedback as they > monitor how many negs they leave in a short period and will suspend them > if to > many left, but they have made it even harder for the seller to survive as > if > you get 3 strikes your out of action for a while. In australia we can > still > pay with all payment options and not just paypal and the Anti > corruption > Comission got involved and ruled against ebay/paypal. Same company so it > can't > be done here. > > Peter j> From: chalsted@comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> > Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:40:00 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 14:27:10 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:49:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] new ebay rules what the heck? well there are certainly a lot of angles to consider... for those of us who are straight up with our dealings on ebay, and that includes most everybody I've dealt with... as a seller it's kinda screwed. I do understand the "excessive shipping" thing and how that can take money out of ebay's pockets like the earbud example... one that I see over and over is someone selling dash caps for roadsters and charging $49.95 to ship- give me a break... they weigh next to nothing and don't even cost near half that to ship. can ship a top frame assembly cross country for less than that- much larger and heavier. on the other hand, ebay would probably consider $125 expensive to ship a windshield but it's very realistic when you figure in special box and packing materials, etc. I usually just guess based on past experience, sometimes I lose and sometimes I might make a few bucks but minimal overage. overall pretty much a break even proposition. I haven't been listing much lately as frankly for all the time and effort to pick out parts, clean, photo, list, package, ship.. hardly worth it. most of the stuff that brings any kind of money I only sell in moments of financial stress and would almost rather just keep for myself and future projects. someday there will be a massive estate sale I suppose and whatever's left Elaine will bulldoze along with my outbuildings. I was going to scrap the crap parts cars when it was $10 a hundredweight recently, it had fallen to $4 a hundredweight as of tuesday this week, hardly worth hauling them off. as the economy goes, so goes the price of scrap I guess. I still have tons and tons and buildings full of parts and roadsters and if someone is needing used parts from engines and transmissions to gauges and whatever, feel free to contact me but I am not anticipating putting all that much stuff up for auction on ebay anymore. as much as anything it's an intrusion on my life to have to do so and I hope to avoid that. probably time to set up some kind of website and/or set up an ebay store instead of doing the auctions. this is likely what they are pushing for anyhow. I appreciate everyone's input, certainly a subject worthy of discussion. I think most of us at one time or another have either bought or sold on ebay. as paypal is owned by ebay, I can understand them looking to set up a business model where that is the only acceptable form of payment- they charge serious fees and it's a moneymaker for them. they maximize their profits if they can guarantee themselves that they collect both on the sale and on the payment.ends of a transaction. not really liking where it all seems to be headed. Craig btw- any thoughts on how the Craigslist folks cover their overhead? are some categories paid ads or something like that? someone has to be running the show... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 15:30:37 2008 From: "Kevin McDonald" To: "chalsted" , Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:42:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] new ebay rules what the heck? > btw- any thoughts on how the Craigslist folks cover their overhead? are > some > categories paid ads or something like that? someone has to be running the > show... I hope your ready for this. Craigslist founders sold 25% of the company a while back. To: . . . eBay... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 15:58:32 2008 From: turbored To: chalsted Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:59:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] new ebay rules what the heck? Craigslist pays for their overhead by job wanted ads. CL headquarters is a small office prolly not even 1000 sq ft. > > btw- any thoughts on how the Craigslist folks cover their overhead? > are some > categories paid ads or something like that? someone has to be > running the > show... > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 17:04:18 2008 From: To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:31:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 Roadster So I'm kind of at a loss here. I have acquired a few older cars a very rarely do I have the time or know how to fix them up. One car being a 1969 datsun 2000 roadster. Its transmission is broken and I have acquired another but I cannot put it in myself nor do I have help or a mechanic familiar with the datsun parts to help. I am looking for someone, if anyone knows anyone, In AZ that may be of service for a price. All I'm looking for is a simple, not really simple, transmission removal and install. If you are or know someone in the Phoenix area that's willing to come down and give me an estimate email me directly at will-mart14@cox.net. Thank you very much. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 06:07:04 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 5:05:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling Recently my SPL has been pulling to one side--or the other--when hitting the brakes. It has mainly been to the right and not very hard/severe. The last three or four times driving the car, the pulling has been to the left and very hard/severe. Last evening the pulling was hard and to the left, then once I had been on the road for about 10 miles or so, the pulling was back to the right and not very hard. (I have put the brake work on the SRL on hold until after our Midwest Roadster Run next weekend.) I have not had the wheels off yet to look at the front end. I will do that this afternoon after work. I wanted to post this to you all first. Any ideas? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 06:23:50 2008 From: "chalsted" To: "Tim" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:23:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling Hi Tim, my guess is that one of the pistons on your LF caliper is very close to frozen up. wasn't sliding out to contact the rotor so brakes one on the left, both on the right... pull to the right. then the piston decided to let loose enough to contact the rotor but not retract... both working on the right, one working properly maybe on the left but the other basically locked against the rotor... hard left... drive 10 miles, wear off some pad surface and rotor turns better.. brake again, same piston pushes a bit further out but doesn't retract and same happens again. just my guess...jack up the car, have someone spin each front wheel and apply the brakes. see first if the wheel stops, then see if after you let off the brakes it will spin freely again. shouldn't be that bad a job, just need to either rebuild the piston asembly or replace the piston assembly or have it sleeved in stainless at White Post or Apple Hydraulics so it won't ever happen again. White Post charges $80 a hole, I stopped by to see Billy last week. he says only a couple day turnaround. I'll probably be going that route on the front brakes on my 1500. Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 06:31:57 2008 From: Robert Keen To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling I have the same mild pull to the right that Tim describes. Suggestions for cures will be helpful. Thanks. --Bob 68 1600 U.P., Michigan ======================================= On Fri, 3 Oct 2008, Tim wrote: > Recently my SPL has been pulling to one side--or the other--when hitting the brakes. It has mainly been to the right and not very hard/severe. The last three or four times driving the car, the pulling has been to the left and very hard/severe. Last evening the pulling was hard and to the left, then once I had been on the road for about 10 miles or so, the pulling was back to the right and not very hard. (I have put the brake work on the SRL on hold until after our Midwest Roadster Run next weekend.) > > I have not had the wheels off yet to look at the front end. I will do that this afternoon after work. I wanted to post this to you all first. > > Any ideas? > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 12:46:31 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:46:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS I have one registration (free) for the JCCS show - Eliza isn't ready. Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 14:00:18 2008 From: "robert k. smith" To: Tim , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:00:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling hi all,i agree with craig on what might be causing the pulling of the brakes. but i will add that, as a result of the calipers sticking, one side is probably heating up more than the other, which can cause the wheel to pull. just my humble opinion. bob smith , ohio.> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 05:05:33 -0700> From: tputland@charter.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling> > Recently my SPL has been pulling to one side--or the other--when hitting the brakes. It has mainly been to the right and not very hard/severe. The last three or four times driving the car, the pulling has been to the left and very hard/severe. Last evening the pulling was hard and to the left, then once I had been on the road for about 10 miles or so, the pulling was back to the right and not very hard. (I have put the brake work on the SRL on hold until after our Midwest Roadster Run next weekend.)> > I have not had the wheels off yet to look at the front end. I will do that this afternoon after work. I wanted to post this to you all first. > > Any ideas?> > Tim> Belleville, WI.> '70 SPL AND SRL> Still clueless but always learning> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 14:38:22 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:37:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling What causes the sticking? Bad fluid, water, dirt, air, all of the above? Last, can you tap on the housing to unstick? Seems to work for other parts sometimes Linda -----Original Message----- From: robert k. smith To: Tim ; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling hi all,i agree with craig on what might be causing the pulling of the brakes. but i will add that, as a result of the calipers sticking, one side is probably heating up more than the other, which can cause the wheel to pull. just my humble opinion. bob smith , ohio.> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 05:05:33 -0700> From: tputland@charter.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling> > Recently my SPL has been pulling to one side--or the other--when hitting the brakes. It has mainly been to the right and not very hard/severe. The last three or four times driving the car, the pulling has been to the left and very hard/severe. Last evening the pulling was hard and to the left, then once I had been on the road for about 10 miles or so, the pulling was back to the right and not very hard. (I have put the brake work on the SRL on hold until after our Midwest Roadster Run next weekend.)> > I have not had the wheels off yet to look at the front end. I will do that this afternoon after work. I wanted to post this to you all first. > > Any ideas?> > Tim> Belleville, WI.> '70 SPL AND SRL> Still clueless but always learning> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 15:08:30 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:08:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] heater core hose I have a hose on the SRL that runs from a T right in front of the carbs to the fire wall. The PO has it installed so it rubs on the steering column. It is very close to being rubbed trough. My question: can I just remove this hose and plug both ends or does it have to be installed? I do not need a heater. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 15:16:14 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:10:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] starter How do you get to the starter? Is from underneath the only way? I don't know that I can get my hand to it. Will the carbs have to be removed if I cannot get to it from under neath? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 15:42:33 2008 From: Pat To: Tim Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:40:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter Tim, Most folks are able to get the starter loose from the top and bottom, then work it out around the exhaust header to the front of the engine. If that is not possible, drill out the spot welds on the triangle shaped panel, do your starter work, then screw the panel back in. It may also be possible to gently lift the engine on the starter side to make up for sagging engine mounts, making enough clearance to get the starter out and in Be warned that some starters are longer than others, and exhaust headers are made differently which can cause the header to be removed to get the starter out. Personally, I'd take the starter out in pieces before I remove the header. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Tim: > How do you get to the starter? Is from underneath the only way? I don't know that I can get my hand to it. > > Will the carbs have to be removed if I cannot get to it from under neath? > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1706 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 6:17 PM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 16:13:12 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: Tim Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter > How do you get to the starter? Thru the frame. But first: You have a 1600. If it has the original starter, it's longer and thinner than the shorter and fatter starter that is OEM on the 2000's. If you have a header, the U20 starter, being shorter, helps keep it away from the header heat (a long 1600 starter plus a header results in cooking the rear bushing. I've heard of some starters actually touching the header!) The U20 starter probably has more torque, but I'm guessing. If you're replacing, consider a gear reduction H20 (forklift) starter. But back to getting it out: details are in the archives somewhere, but briefly, put the left front on jack stands, remove the left wheel, and access the starter thru the triangular opening in the frame. If you turn it 'just right', it'll slide out. Some cars, as noted, have a metal plate tack welded on (presumably as a splash guard?). You may need to remove or bend the corner of the plate. The starter will seem like there's no way it'll come out, and you'll twist and turn and curse the people that said it would, and suddenly it'll pop through and you'll say "whoa! How'd that happen??" Rebuilts used to be available thru NAPA. DO NOT turn in your old one until you're CERTAIN it matches up to your new one!!! Sometimes 'the right one' has the ears rotated slightly from what's expected and in the wrong position. Subtle. You'll find out when you try to put it back in. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 16:35:17 2008 From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: Tim , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:35:14 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] heater core hose You can remove that without any adverse effects. That hose warms the manifold and will help the engine smooth out more quickly in cold weather. You will have to plug the outlet on the water pump and the front and rear inlets on the manifold. The manifold inlet/outlets are a bugger to get out of the manifold. That could be a show stopper for you if they are really frozen in place. There is an inlet and outlet hose from the heater core, you could even connect those together to close that part of the system off. Have fun, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Tim >Sent: Oct 3, 2008 3:08 PM >To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >Subject: [Roadsters] heater core hose > >I have a hose on the SRL that runs from a T right in front of the carbs to the fire wall. The PO has it installed so it rubs on the steering column. It is very close to being rubbed trough. > >My question: can I just remove this hose and plug both ends or does it have to be installed? I do not need a heater. > >Tim >Belleville, WI. >'70 SPL AND SRL >Still clueless but always learning >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 18:19:21 2008 From: Mike Harper To: Tim , John F Sandhoff Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter John, good explanation...What he said... --- On Fri, 10/3/08, John F Sandhoff wrote: > From: John F Sandhoff > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter > To: "Tim" > Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 6:11 PM > > How do you get to the starter? > > Thru the frame. > But first: You have a 1600. > If it has the original starter, it's longer and thinner > than the > shorter and fatter starter that is OEM on the 2000's. > If you have > a header, the U20 starter, being shorter, helps keep it > away from > the header heat (a long 1600 starter plus a header results > in cooking > the rear bushing. I've heard of some starters actually > touching > the header!) > > The U20 starter probably has more torque, but I'm > guessing. > > If you're replacing, consider a gear reduction H20 > (forklift) starter. > > But back to getting it out: > details are in the archives somewhere, but briefly, put the > left > front on jack stands, remove the left wheel, and access the > starter thru > the triangular opening in the frame. If you turn it > 'just right', > it'll slide out. Some cars, as noted, have a metal > plate tack welded > on (presumably as a splash guard?). You may need to remove > or bend the > corner of the plate. > > The starter will seem like there's no way it'll > come out, and you'll > twist and turn and curse the people that said it would, and > suddenly > it'll pop through and you'll say "whoa! > How'd that happen??" > > Rebuilts used to be available thru NAPA. DO NOT turn in > your old > one until you're CERTAIN it matches up to your new > one!!! Sometimes > 'the right one' has the ears rotated slightly from > what's expected > and in the wrong position. Subtle. You'll find out when > you try to > put it back in. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 18:53:27 2008 From: "reblues@gmail" To: , "Tim" , "John F Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:53:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter Yep, what they said. Plus when you go to put it back in, you may swear that it could never have came out. There is no way to turn it just the right way for it to fit back in. Until it happens. Richard Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Harper" To: "Tim" ; "John F Sandhoff" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter > John, good explanation...What he said... > > > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, John F Sandhoff wrote: > >> From: John F Sandhoff >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter >> To: "Tim" >> Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 6:11 PM >> > How do you get to the starter? >> >> Thru the frame. >> But first: You have a 1600. >> If it has the original starter, it's longer and thinner >> than the >> shorter and fatter starter that is OEM on the 2000's. >> If you have >> a header, the U20 starter, being shorter, helps keep it >> away from >> the header heat (a long 1600 starter plus a header results >> in cooking >> the rear bushing. I've heard of some starters actually >> touching >> the header!) >> >> The U20 starter probably has more torque, but I'm >> guessing. >> >> If you're replacing, consider a gear reduction H20 >> (forklift) starter. >> >> But back to getting it out: >> details are in the archives somewhere, but briefly, put the >> left >> front on jack stands, remove the left wheel, and access the >> starter thru >> the triangular opening in the frame. If you turn it >> 'just right', >> it'll slide out. Some cars, as noted, have a metal >> plate tack welded >> on (presumably as a splash guard?). You may need to remove >> or bend the >> corner of the plate. >> >> The starter will seem like there's no way it'll >> come out, and you'll >> twist and turn and curse the people that said it would, and >> suddenly >> it'll pop through and you'll say "whoa! >> How'd that happen??" >> >> Rebuilts used to be available thru NAPA. DO NOT turn in >> your old >> one until you're CERTAIN it matches up to your new >> one!!! Sometimes >> 'the right one' has the ears rotated slightly from >> what's expected >> and in the wrong position. Subtle. You'll find out when >> you try to >> put it back in. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 20:28:26 2008 From: "Stan Rasmussen" To: "Dewey Hahlbohm" , "Tim" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:25:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] heater core hose --===============0971197186== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, the heater hoses disconnected at the fire wall and the water hose in a loop from the water pump under the carbs and into the opposite inlet is how mine has been for years, works fine. At least in Texas that was fine, looking into hooking it back up here in Indiana as its a wee bit colder. Later - Stan in Indy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dewey Hahlbohm Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:35 PM To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] heater core hose You can remove that without any adverse effects. That hose warms the manifold and will help the engine smooth out more quickly in cold weather. You will have to plug the outlet on the water pump and the front and rear inlets on the manifold. The manifold inlet/outlets are a bugger to get out of the manifold. That could be a show stopper for you if they are really frozen in place. There is an inlet and outlet hose from the heater core, you could even connect those together to close that part of the system off. Have fun, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Tim >Sent: Oct 3, 2008 3:08 PM >To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >Subject: [Roadsters] heater core hose > >I have a hose on the SRL that runs from a T right in front of the carbs to the fire wall. The PO has it installed so it rubs on the steering column. It is very close to being rubbed trough. > >My question: can I just remove this hose and plug both ends or does it have to be installed? I do not need a heater. > >Tim >Belleville, WI. >'70 SPL AND SRL >Still clueless but always learning >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 9/30/2008 7:08 PM --===============0971197186== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --===============0971197186==-- From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Oct 3 20:34:27 2008 From: "Stan Rasmussen" To: "robert k. smith" , "Tim" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:34:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling --===============0358757429== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey - I'm in the middle of replacing my calipers and pads at the moment, all done except bleeding it all for a little more pedal now, hopefully. Those calipers can freeze up with enough moisture and sitting around. If you need to buy new one's shop around a bit as they are available for around $65 ea, I believe I saw the best price at (Nissanparts.com) (I think that's where it was) Part# 41101-14600 for the 70 SRL-311. Good luck - Stan in Indy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of robert k. smith Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 4:00 PM To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling hi all,i agree with craig on what might be causing the pulling of the brakes. but i will add that, as a result of the calipers sticking, one side is probably heating up more than the other, which can cause the wheel to pull. just my humble opinion. bob smith , ohio.> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 05:05:33 -0700> From: tputland@charter.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling> > Recently my SPL has been pulling to one side--or the other--when hitting the brakes. It has mainly been to the right and not very hard/severe. The last three or four times driving the car, the pulling has been to the left and very hard/severe. Last evening the pulling was hard and to the left, then once I had been on the road for about 10 miles or so, the pulling was back to the right and not very hard. (I have put the brake work on the SRL on hold until after our Midwest Roadster Run next weekend.)> > I have not had the wheels off yet to look at the front end. I will do that this afternoon after work. I wanted to post this to you all first. > > Any ideas?> > Tim> Belleville, WI.> '70 SPL AND SRL> Still clueless but always learning> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 9/30/2008 7:08 PM --===============0358757429== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --===============0358757429==-- From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 09:07:06 2008 From: Tim To: Steve Harvey , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 8:06:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter--revisited After finding and fixing a mis-grounded negative battery cablebThe PO had it mounted to the aluminum smog pump bracket. OMG! I have been able to get the starter to turn the motor just a littlebthe fan is making about half a turn and there is noise coming from the starterbnot a clicking just a kind of like a slight groan (??I thnk...it is hard to describe--??). I have not kept trying to get the motor to turn over as I have seen a wisp of smoke coming up between the carbs. This must be coming from the starter I have to assume. Is my starter shot? Can they be tested? This is a 70 2000 by the way. If I reposition the jack stand I can get under the car better to see and work on the starter. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Steve Harvey wrote: ============= Tim, I think you can put the car on jack stands, remove the front left wheel and you should be able to get to the starter. Steve P.S. I removed all of the hardware from the bumper and will bring them along on Friday. I had to cut off the two brackets with my torch because the welded nuts broke loose when I tried to unscrew the bolts. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:10 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] starter How do you get to the starter? Is from underneath the only way? I don't know that I can get my hand to it. Will the carbs have to be removed if I cannot get to it from under neath? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as stebharvey@ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 09:14:36 2008 From: Tim To: razmataz@indy.net, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 8:11:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] heater core hose iI just moved the heater hoses up some and cushioed them so they don't rub. I will check out their removal next summer as for now I just want to get this car running before winter. thanks for the input all. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Stan Rasmussen wrote: ============= Hey all, the heater hoses disconnected at the fire wall and the water hose in a loop from the water pump under the carbs and into the opposite inlet is how mine has been for years, works fine. At least in Texas that was fine, looking into hooking it back up here in Indiana as its a wee bit colder. Later - Stan in Indy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+razmataz=indy.net@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dewey Hahlbohm Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:35 PM To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] heater core hose You can remove that without any adverse effects. That hose warms the manifold and will help the engine smooth out more quickly in cold weather. You will have to plug the outlet on the water pump and the front and rear inlets on the manifold. The manifold inlet/outlets are a bugger to get out of the manifold. That could be a show stopper for you if they are really frozen in place. There is an inlet and outlet hose from the heater core, you could even connect those together to close that part of the system off. Have fun, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Tim >Sent: Oct 3, 2008 3:08 PM >To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >Subject: [Roadsters] heater core hose > >I have a hose on the SRL that runs from a T right in front of the carbs to the fire wall. The PO has it installed so it rubs on the steering column. It is very close to being rubbed trough. > >My question: can I just remove this hose and plug both ends or does it have to be installed? I do not need a heater. > >Tim >Belleville, WI. >'70 SPL AND SRL >Still clueless but always learning >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 9/30/2008 7:08 PM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 11:04:11 2008 From: gsglasgow@comcast.net To: Tim , Steve Harvey , Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:03:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter--revisited I saw smoke that appeared to be coming up from between the carbs once. It turned out to be coming from the throttle cable, which was acting as the ground connection. Once I got the starter grounded correctly (and replaced the voltage regulator which had been smoked in the process) things worked fine. Of course, I also then had to replace the throttle cable, since it had melted the plastic in the housing. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -------------- Original message -------------- From: Tim > After finding and fixing a mis-grounded negative battery cablebThe PO had it > mounted to the aluminum smog pump bracket. OMG! I have been able to get > the starter to turn the motor just a littlebthe fan is making about half a > turn and there is noise coming from the starterbnot a clicking just a kind > of like a slight groan (??I thnk...it is hard to describe--??). I have not > kept trying to get the motor to turn over as I have seen a wisp of smoke > coming up between the carbs. This must be coming from the starter I have to > assume. > > Is my starter shot? Can they be tested? > > This is a 70 2000 by the way. If I reposition the jack stand I can get under > the car better to see and work on the starter. > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Steve Harvey wrote: > > ============= > Tim, > > I think you can put the car on jack stands, remove the front left wheel and > you should be able to get to the starter. > > Steve > P.S. I removed all of the hardware from the bumper and will bring them along > on Friday. I had to cut off the two brackets with my torch because the > welded nuts broke loose when I tried to unscrew the bolts. > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:10 PM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] starter > > How do you get to the starter? Is from underneath the only way? I don't know > that I can get my hand to it. > > Will the carbs have to be removed if I cannot get to it from under neath? > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > You are subscribed as stebharvey@ameritech.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsglasgow@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 12:43:54 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:40:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling Yes. No. Flush your brake system every year or two and you shouldn't have a problem for a looooooooooong time. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704@netscape.net Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 1:38 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling What causes the sticking? Bad fluid, water, dirt, air, all of the above? Last, can you tap on the housing to unstick? Seems to work for other parts sometimes Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 12:45:41 2008 From: Tim To: chalsted Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:41:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling--revisited This is on my SPL that runs great by the way... I did as Craig suggested and was able to turn both wheels pretty easily before and after applying the brake. The rotors are as nice as can be expected and I can see what appears to be at least half of new thickness on all four pads. I should add that I do have a slow brake fluid leak in the right front but it is minor. The reservoir was down only a little after well over a year. I will rebuild this system next spring but was hoping to figure out this pulling before our Midwest run this weekend coming up. The pulling to the left has only happened that one time the other day but was very severs and did go away. The pulling to the right has been going on for some time and is not real severe. Any other ideas? Thanks Tim ---- chalsted wrote: ============= Hi Tim, my guess is that one of the pistons on your LF caliper is very close to frozen up. wasn't sliding out to contact the rotor so brakes one on the left, both on the right... pull to the right. then the piston decided to let loose enough to contact the rotor but not retract... both working on the right, one working properly maybe on the left but the other basically locked against the rotor... hard left... drive 10 miles, wear off some pad surface and rotor turns better.. brake again, same piston pushes a bit further out but doesn't retract and same happens again. just my guess...jack up the car, have someone spin each front wheel and apply the brakes. see first if the wheel stops, then see if after you let off the brakes it will spin freely again. shouldn't be that bad a job, just need to either rebuild the piston assembly or replace the piston assembly or have it sleeved in stainless at White Post or Apple Hydraulics so it won't ever happen again. White Post charges $80 a hole, I stopped by to see Billy last week. he says only a couple day turnaround. I'll probably be going that route on the front brakes on my 1500. Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 14:14:31 2008 From: Tim To: John F Sandhoff , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 16:09:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling--revisited Yes, the pad is wet. I think we have a winner. I knew I had a slow leak but didn't know it was getting the pad wet. One last run this upcoming weekend and then rebuild the front brake time. Thanks to all who had input on this. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- John F Sandhoff wrote: ============= > I did as Craig suggested and was able to turn both wheels pretty > easily before and after applying the brake. Okay. Now do the same on the REAR wheels. :-) > I should add that I do have a slow brake fluid leak in the right front... Is the pad getting AT ALL damp? Brake fluid on the braking surface tends to cause slipping and grabbing. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 15:36:39 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:36:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need a part numer please I need the part numbers for the front brake tubes (metal) that go from the connectors to the outside calipers. I have the numbers for the tubes that connect the outer and inner calipers but am confused on the part number for the other front metal tubes. I don't see them listed in my books and the part manual online that i am looking at is just confusing me. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 16:20:03 2008 From: Thomas King To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 17:25:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] solex fiter Wondering if anyone is using the IGA filter for the 44 solexs? If so how well do they flow and which size do are you using? Thanks, Thomas 68 2000 et al ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 17:49:44 2008 From: "dave" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 19:47:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] heater core hose Tim, to answer the question, you can remove the hoses to the heater core, cap off the fittings, but I would recommend leaving the hose from the manifold to the waterpump. They sell rubber caps for the hose nipple, goes on with a hose clamp. I ran the hose down to the inner fender and secured it with loop clamps. If I read the coolant flow diagram correctly, the hose from the T around to the heater core, back through the other hose into the rear of the manifold and basically just feeds the heater core. The hose on the other side of the T that goes to the waterpump is your bypass circuit. It has a small restriction so the water flows out the back hose, through the heater and back to the side of the T (the hose you are talking about) and into the waterpump inlet. When the heater valve is closed, the water just goes from the manifold directly to the pump. When the thermostat is closed, there is no water going into the radiator from the engine to feed the waterpump. This hose feeds water from the head, through the manifold, to the waterpump inlet so there is a circulation of coolant. Without this hose, the waterpump has no fluid to circulate and may cavitate and froth up the fluid, also there is no real circulation in the block and head which can lead to hotspots. If you don't have a thermostat, no problem, but that brings up it's own issues. The 1600 does something similar for bypass, but on the outside of the manifold. On your starter, if you haven't bought one yet, get an H20 starter, half the price, half the size and more cranking power. Any doubts about your ground cable replace it, and add a ground strap from engine to frame. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland@charter.net] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 5:08 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] heater core hose I have a hose on the SRL that runs from a T right in front of the carbs to the fire wall. The PO has it installed so it rubs on the steering column. It is very close to being rubbed trough. My question: can I just remove this hose and plug both ends or does it have to be installed? I do not need a heater. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 21:37:50 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: Tim Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 20:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need a part numer please > I have the numbers for the tubes that connect the outer and inner > calipers... Word of warning that hopefully no longer applies. Several years ago there were a batch of these metal lines that came out of the factory wrong. I forget if it was the left or the right side, but the part number for one side was placed on the actual part for the other side. If you ordered one set - one right and one left - you received two identical pipes. Since most parts guys don't know these cars, it then became a bit of a battle because in their mind you ordered the wrong part - certainly the factory part number wasn't wrong... This story is buried in the archives somewhere. As I say, it was many years ago, but incorrectly labeled parts could still be out there. ALSO, be sure to CAREFULLY remove the plastic protective sleeve (don't nick or score the pipe). The pipe invisibly corrodes under it and starts to leak. I didn't really believe it... until it happened to me. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 23:02:55 2008 From: Thomas King To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 23:59:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] itg solex filters Ok, seems i made up some name for a solex filter. NOT an IGA (think that was a store down the street when I was a kid) anyway I looking for some feedback on the ITG filters. Specifically wanting know how they fit and flow ect. Also, does anyone now which size is for the solexs? Thanks. Thomas 68 2000 et al ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 03:09:22 2008 From: Dennis Louthan <68roadster@charter.net> To: Datsun Roadster Group Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:21:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Sealant Anyone know where to pickup POR gas tank sealer or equivalant type sealer on the West Coast. Time to start on the Z. TIA, Dennis 68 Stroker Minden, NV ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 03:28:51 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:22:43 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need a part numer please Yeah, the parts manual shows one, but what part number is left and what is right isn't clear at all. I'd just order 'em from Dean: Datsun Roadster left hand caliper to junction block metal line Datsun Roadster right hand caliper to junction block metal line Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Tim > I need the part numbers for the front brake tubes (metal) that go from the > connectors to the outside calipers. I have the numbers for the tubes that > connect the outer and inner calipers but am confused on the part number for the > other front metal tubes. > > I don't see them listed in my books and the part manual online that i am looking > at is just confusing me. > > TIA > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 03:34:29 2008 From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:33:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Brake line fittings--revisited (again ??) Thanks to all who offered advise and part numbers. I want to follow up on a couple things now: We tried to find the correct fittings but everything we tried didn't seem to make a good feeling fit in the rear cylinder we had with us. Now that I have been told the exact part from NAPA that works (a place we didn't go to as they were closed already by that time) I will try to make my own. As far as making my own... Some people said "buy from a vendor"; The whole reason for trying to make my own is two fold. One: I really cannot afford to buy the lines from a vendor right now. And Two: For me personally, I WANT to learn how to do this. A lot of you take for granted the knowledge you have to do this stuff yourselves. I never learned how to do stuff like this when I was younger. The opportunity was there to learn SOME of it, but for reasons better left unsaid, I didn't take advantage. I thank those of you who have offered advice, tips, hints, knowledge, etc. Beers and a home cooked meal on me, a semi-retired chef, to any and all who are ever in my neck of the woods. OK, I am off my soap box now and will return to the shop to start to clean up some used brake parts (that I just pulled off of the usable part car) to determine usability. Sorry for the band width. PEACE :-) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 03:34:35 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:55:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need a part numer please Tim, In my parts book, the rigid tubes from the connector block (to which the flexible hose is attached) are shown on Figure 47 "Brake Piping". There are several different numbers, but the latest seem to be: 41140-A3201 (right) 41141-A3201 (left) I don't know whether they're available from Nissan, but both the datsunparts.com (Dean Apostle) and the datsunroadster.com (Rallye) websites say the have them. Prices are comparable. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:36 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Need a part numer please >I need the part numbers for the front brake tubes (metal) that go from the >connectors to the outside calipers. I have the numbers for the tubes that >connect the outer and inner calipers but am confused on the part number for >the other front metal tubes. > > I don't see them listed in my books and the part manual online that i am > looking at is just confusing me. > > TIA > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 03:38:19 2008 From: "dave" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:41:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] intermittent brake pulling--revisited If it were me, I'd flush with fresh fluid, and compress each caliper piston in by hand, and back out with the brake pedal. Even if it fixes nothing, it will get any moisture out before it sits for the winter. I have the exact same problem, happened 3 times over the summer, and went away for good after a long drive to the Glen. If it happens again, I'll replace the caliper pistons. Kepp an eye on Ebay, occasionally a set of used calipers goes cheap. Send these out for rebuild, and you can detail the casting. Will make an easy swap when you are ready. Charlie Breault has new piston sets on Ebay from time to time. -----Original Message----- Dave Brisco From: Tim [mailto:tputland@charter.net] This is on my SPL that runs great by the way... I did as Craig suggested and was able to turn both wheels pretty easily before and after applying the brake. The rotors are as nice as can be expected and I can see what appears to be at least half of new thickness on all four pads. I should add that I do have a slow brake fluid leak in the right front but it is minor. The reservoir was down only a little after well over a year. I will rebuild this system next spring but was hoping to figure out this pulling before our Midwest run this weekend coming up. The pulling to the left has only happened that one time the other day but was very severs and did go away. The pulling to the right has been going on for some time and is not real severe. Any other ideas? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 03:39:45 2008 From: "Larry Dziuba" To: , "Tim" , "Steve Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:55:27 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter--revisited When I was restoring my 68 2000, I rebuilt all wiring harnesses and added grounds. A lot of roadster guys suggested adding some good grounds. I ended up building a heavy duty (10 or 12 guage) from scratch. I ran it from a starter bolt to the frame on the passenger side. From there I ran a smaller guage to the body on the same side. Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Tim" ; "Steve Harvey" ; "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter--revisited >I saw smoke that appeared to be coming up from between the carbs once. It >turned out to be coming from the throttle cable, which was acting as the >ground connection. Once I got the starter grounded correctly (and replaced >the voltage regulator which had been smoked in the process) things worked >fine. > > Of course, I also then had to replace the throttle cable, since it had > melted the plastic in the housing. > > Gordon Glasgow > Renton, WA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 04:08:34 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:03:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Hot or cold Adjustment Group, I'm getting a pinging sound from my 1600 engine when under a load so I'd like to check the gap (0.017" per the book) for the lifter and valves. The book for the 1600 doesn't say if this should be done with a cold or hot engine. The 2000 procedure states "Hot". Thanks Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 04:58:52 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 06:58:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Steve, where are you? Sorry to hit the whole list, but this bounced back when I tried to answer Steve's hot/cold valve question? Paul Ohio _____________________________________________ From: System Administrator Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:57 AM To: Paul Subject: Undeliverable: [Roadsters] Hot or cold Adjustment Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Hot or cold Adjustment Sent: 10/6/2008 6:57 AM The following recipient(s) cannot be reached: 'Steve Harvey' on 10/6/2008 6:57 AM 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 05:07:55 2008 From: Tim To: Steve Harvey , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 7:07:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hot or cold Adjustment Do them hot: I read that in one of my books for the 1600. I just did mine. What a difference in the performance after they were done!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Steve Harvey wrote: ============= Group, I'm getting a pinging sound from my 1600 engine when under a load so I'd like to check the gap (0.017" per the book) for the lifter and valves. The book for the 1600 doesn't say if this should be done with a cold or hot engine. The 2000 procedure states "Hot". Thanks Steve You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 11:55:56 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:56:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need a part numer please Nice work, Gary. I, too, was trying to figure out which were which and what was the latest. Surprised that they're not in Scott Scheeler's book at all. Ran your numbers through NissanParts.cc, and they come up as: 41140-A3201 (right)superceded by 41140-A7400 41141-A3201 (left) --> 41141-A3201 (no change) However, I just checked with a Datsun-friendly Nissan parts guy; parts are NLA from Nissan and no dealerships show 'em in stock. Thank goodness for our roadster vendors to carry these critical parts. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:55 PM To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need a part numer please Tim, In my parts book, the rigid tubes from the connector block (to which the flexible hose is attached) are shown on Figure 47 "Brake Piping". There are several different numbers, but the latest seem to be: 41140-A3201 (right) 41141-A3201 (left) I don't know whether they're available from Nissan, but both the datsunparts.com (Dean Apostle) and the datsunroadster.com (Rallye) websites say the have them. Prices are comparable. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:36 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Need a part numer please >I need the part numbers for the front brake tubes (metal) that go from the >connectors to the outside calipers. I have the numbers for the tubes that >connect the outer and inner calipers but am confused on the part number for >the other front metal tubes. > > I don't see them listed in my books and the part manual online that i am > looking at is just confusing me. > > TIA > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 12:17:05 2008 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:07:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Sealant Dennis, I put together an order directly from POR products that was enough to meet my expected needs and covered the minimum purchase to cover shipping at no cost. I don't know if they do that now or not, but take a look at their web site and see what you can find. They may also be able to point you towards a nearby dealer. I recently discovered that a sandblasting company near my home (neat body shells there) sells POR-15 products off the shelf. You might check some of those type of businesses too. www.por-15.com Tom 69 2000 Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http:/www.nowroc.org On 10/5/2008 8:21:49 AM, Dennis Louthan (68roadster@charter.net) wrote: > Anyone know where to pickup POR gas tank sealer or equivalant type > sealer on the West Coast. Time to start on the Z. > > TIA, > Dennis > 68 Stroker > Minden, NV > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 19:56:17 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Steve Harvey'" , Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:54:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hot or cold Adjustment Steve, valves tap due to clearance, not from engine load. It sounds like you are getting spark knock(ping). If it stops as soon as you back off the gas and starts again as soon as the engine is loaded, very likely it's spark knock. Valve adjustment is a good thing to do anyway, it makes an improvement in all aspects of the car's running. It is normally done on a fully warmed up engine. I found it much easier with the spark plugs removed. Spark knock has 3 basic causes, low octane fuel, vacuum leaks, too light or no oil in the carbs, and most popular is over advanced timing, either a smog distributor set at non smog timing spec, or internal advance problems. Set the base timing to match your distributor, fill the carbs to the proper level, opinions vary on oil, IIRC 20 wt is factory spec, 10w30,and Dexron ATF are also popular. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Steve Harvey [mailto:stebharvey@ameritech.net] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:03 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Hot or cold Adjustment Group, I'm getting a pinging sound from my 1600 engine when under a load so I'd like to check the gap (0.017" per the book) for the lifter and valves. The book for the 1600 doesn't say if this should be done with a cold or hot engine. The 2000 procedure states "Hot". Thanks Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 14:12:16 2008 From: Matthew Cox To: roadster list Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Anybody know anything about this beauty? http://www.dinosaursandrobots.com/2008/10/1963-datsun-concept-car.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 17:07:07 2008 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , "'roadster list'" Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:05:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anybody know anything about this beauty? Found the same photo on Early Datsun site under Prince. http://www.earlydatsun.com/prince.html Same sight I found reference to a 1862cc 83hp OHV GB-30 engine. I'd guess that's where the 1900 came from. Didn't see much else. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Cox Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:10 PM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] Anybody know anything about this beauty? http://www.dinosaursandrobots.com/2008/10/1963-datsun-concept-car.html You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 17:35:40 2008 From: Datsun Girl To: oscilloscope500@yahoo.com, 'roadster list' Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anybody know anything about this beauty? Wow, I'm kinda groovin' on that 61 sport convertible. . . Robin --- On Tue, 10/7/08, Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anybody know anything about this beauty? To: oscilloscope500@yahoo.com, "'roadster list'" Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 4:05 PM Found the same photo on Early Datsun site under Prince. http://www.earlydatsun.com/prince.html Same sight I found reference to a 1862cc 83hp OHV GB-30 engine. I'd guess that's where the 1900 came from. Didn't see much else. Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Cox Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:10 PM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] Anybody know anything about this beauty? http://www.dinosaursandrobots.com/2008/10/1963-datsun-concept-car.html You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as datsun_girl@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 19:11:55 2008 From: "Kevin McDonald" To: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 20:10:49 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Interesting Prince stuff Wow, I'm partial to the PRINCE R380-I and II. http://www.earlydatsun.com/prince.html Interesting R380 stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_R380 They used a Prince G Engine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_G_engine#Straight-6 Looks like the engine had the same cam jackshaft setup as a U20: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:PrinceG7.jpg Interesting Prince stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Motor_Company Is the merger with Prince where the performance side of Nissan came from? I've read a few short Datsun history articles but didn't really realize what Prince was until now. Kevin ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 19:33:11 2008 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:33:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interesting Prince stuff Kevin McDonald wrote: >Wow, I'm partial to the PRINCE R380-I and II. >http://www.earlydatsun.com/prince.html > >Interesting R380 stuff: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_R380 > > Fascinating Group 7 / Can Am development with the R380/1/2. Notably Lotus type 47/Porsche 906- and McLaren M3/M6/M8-like. And that Prince Sport looks like the Opel GT, years before the Opel emerged. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 19:44:20 2008 From: "Kevin McDonald" To: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 20:44:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Interesting Prince stuff Well this is a heck of a preview: http://books.google.com/books?id=oXqgecZ6Me4C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0 Most of the Roadster section is here! I should be watching the Presidential debates but I think I have reached political saturation and need a diversion. Kevin o.k. off to watch McBama ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 20:41:54 2008 From: "robert k. smith" To: dave , 'Steve Harvey' Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 22:38:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hot or cold Adjustment hi steve, in addition to what dave said, i would ck. the compression of the cyls. if the head has been machined too much, you might have a very high compression. i think 160-185 lbs is about average. if you are close to 200lbs., thats too high. you can still retard the timing to help the pinging. good luck. bob smith> From: daveandlindab@comcast.net> To: stebharvey@ameritech.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:54:08 -0400> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hot or cold Adjustment> > Steve, valves tap due to clearance, not from engine load. It sounds> like you are getting spark knock(ping). If it stops as soon as you back> off the gas and starts again as soon as the engine is loaded, very> likely it's spark knock.> > Valve adjustment is a good thing to do anyway, it makes an improvement> in all aspects of the car's running. It is normally done on a fully> warmed up engine. I found it much easier with the spark plugs removed. > > Spark knock has 3 basic causes, low octane fuel, vacuum leaks, too light> or no oil in the carbs, and most popular is over advanced timing, either> a smog distributor set at non smog timing spec, or internal advance> problems. Set the base timing to match your distributor, fill the carbs> to the proper level, opinions vary on oil, IIRC 20 wt is factory spec,> 10w30,and Dexron ATF are also popular.> > Dave Brisco> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: Steve Harvey [mailto:stebharvey@ameritech.net] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:03 AM> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Hot or cold Adjustment> > Group,> > > > I'm getting a pinging sound from my 1600 engine when under a load so I'd> like to check the gap (0.017" per the book) for the lifter and valves.> The> book for the 1600 doesn't say if this should be done with a cold or hot> engine. The 2000 procedure states "Hot".> > > > Thanks> > > > Steve> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 21:36:33 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 22:36:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection Can anyone out there tell me how the hand throttle cable is connected/secured to the throttle bell crank -- the T-shaped frame which moves the throttle cable? My '67-1/2 has the hand throttle cable installed, but the engine room end is loose, and easily slips out of the slot in the bell crank. I have seen U-shaped clips which slip over the slotted shaft and hold the lead-reinforced end of the wire (cable) in place. A photo of a correct installationwould be helpful, but I'll take whatever I can get. Thanks. I'll be happy to send a photo of what I have at present, but I suspect I am missing some sort of clip. Gary Ault (219) 322-1923 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 23:31:32 2008 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 05:31:13 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] ALMS @ Laguna Seca 10/18 American LeMans Series - Racing Into The Dark - Z Car Corral PassSaturday - October 18th at Mazda Raceway, Laguna Seca - Monterey, CA Event Registration here:http://zonc.org/ $35 gets you into the race and more importantly into the Nissan/Datsun Corral!!! We have been assigned to the #3 Blue Parking corral.This is on the other side of the track (west) of our Historics corral and near "turn #5". We will be in the Z and the roadster See you there!Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 12:13:40 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 14:12:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Marc Boulay in NY Are you part of this list? (If not) Does any one have an email addy for him? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 12:19:58 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "chalsted" , Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:49:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT- new ebay rules what the heck? It's because of the sellers that hold positive feedback hostage, and won't give feedback until positive is left. So they could leave negative feedback anyways if they wanted to be A$$holes. The way I see it is: If I sell something and the buyer pays quickly or on time, or communicates there may be a delay of one or two days. The transaction is done on my end once the item is shipped. I'm supposed to give the feedback on this part of the transaction, and should be giving positive feedback. Now as a buyer, If I pay early, quick or on time, or if there is a REASONABLE delay of 1-2 days, AND I ok this delay with the seller, I should be given Positive Feedback. I should be getting Positive feedback based on communicating and paying. I should not have to give feedback to get it. However. if I don't pay I deserve negative feedback. Once the Item arrives, if it's not what was expected, I should have to try to resolve it before giving any feedback. Negative feedback should be given only if there is a problem that does not get resolved. If I'm not happy, and the seller won't do anything, or answer communications they deserve negative feedback. Now if the seller does nothing to resolve the issue, refuses to communicate, and I give negative feedback, but I paid on time, do I deserve negative? No. I held my part of the deal, and as such should be rewarded with positive feedback for that. In a case where the seller was paid quickly or on time, won't do anything to resolve a problem, receives negative feedback, they should not be able to give negative, just because the buyer gave it to them. But that's what was happening. Just because the seller is a less than honorable person, those of us who are honest, and good e-bayers should not be penalized. Unfortunately the bad sellers, and Ransom feedbackers, have ruined it for anyone selling. They didn't follow the rules anyways, so the rules were changed. And yes I've had feedback withheld from a seller waiting for my feedback. And because of issues with the products tried to contact the seller but couldn't get the issue resolved, if I had left negative, would I receive positive because I was honest and paid quick. Yeah, and if you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn you can have real cheap! If they withhold feedback, I don't give feedback until they do. I e-mail and say the product arrived, and I'm happy. When I receive their feedback based on my TRANSACTION part, not the follow-up part of the deal, I leave the same. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972-510 4 dr Daisy 1972-510 4 dr (picking up on Saturday) From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 13:42:36 2008 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:37:24 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection I'm lost. What's a hand throttle? There's the throttle cable and hand pulled choke. Two separate mechanisms. Are you talking about the choke? Dan McHatton '66 1600 --------------------------------- Can anyone out there tell me how the hand throttle cable is connected/secured to the throttle bell crank -- the T-shaped frame which moves the throttle cable? Gary Ault ____________________________________________________________ Get help now! Click to find the right drug rehab solution for you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iifcCGd0723Weqw43XOoaXIXvY52 4YfW7PiToTArdtlnKKEBI/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 13:47:04 2008 From: Tim To: "hallosb@juno.com" , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 12:46:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection It is a mechanical "cruise control". The knob is by the headlight switch. Mine works on the SPL Gary, we can look at it this weekend. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "hallosb@juno.com" wrote: ============= I'm lost. What's a hand throttle? There's the throttle cable and hand pulled choke. Two separate mechanisms. Are you talking about the choke? Dan McHatton '66 1600 --------------------------------- Can anyone out there tell me how the hand throttle cable is connected/secured to the throttle bell crank -- the T-shaped frame which moves the throttle cable? Gary Ault ____________________________________________________________ Get help now! Click to find the right drug rehab solution for you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iifcCGd0723Weqw43XOoaXIXvY52 4YfW7PiToTArdtlnKKEBI/ You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 14:16:38 2008 From: Mike Harper To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, "hallosb@juno.com" Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 13:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection Dan, 67.5 and later models have a hand throttle. Your '66 does not. You are not missing much, nice for tuning up etc when you want to raise the rpm remotely, but useless as a "cruise control" because it is static and does not compensate for hills, etc....not to mention disengage when you brake....not recommended for "on the road" unless you are in the middle of the desert with nothing else in sight and on very level ground. Just one more Datsun anomaly. Mike SC '66 1600 (and used to have a '68 2000) --- On Wed, 10/8/08, hallosb@juno.com wrote: > From: hallosb@juno.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 3:37 PM > I'm lost. What's a hand throttle? There's the > throttle cable and hand pulled > choke. Two separate mechanisms. Are you talking about the > choke? > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 14:42:36 2008 From: Loren Berg To: "roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com" , Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:38:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection I love my "cruise control". It came in mighty handy driving Interstate 35 from Dallas/Ft. Worth TX to Minneapolis MN. - Loren '68 1600 w/U20 + 5 sp '70 2000 parting out -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+lberg=minnetronix.com@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+lberg=minnetronix.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Harper Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:16 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; hallosb@juno.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection Dan, 67.5 and later models have a hand throttle. Your '66 does not. You are not missing much, nice for tuning up etc when you want to raise the rpm remotely, but useless as a "cruise control" because it is static and does not compensate for hills, etc....not to mention disengage when you brake....not recommended for "on the road" unless you are in the middle of the desert with nothing else in sight and on very level ground. Just one more Datsun anomaly. Mike SC '66 1600 (and used to have a '68 2000) --- On Wed, 10/8/08, hallosb@juno.com wrote: > From: hallosb@juno.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 3:37 PM > I'm lost. What's a hand throttle? There's the > throttle cable and hand pulled > choke. Two separate mechanisms. Are you talking about the > choke? > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 You are subscribed as lberg@minnetronix.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 15:28:06 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:24:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection In regards to the throttle knob, it was commented: > It is a mechanical "cruise control". Oh, please, don't say that even in joking. Someone may believe you! It's useful to adjust the carbs (set for 2000 rpm and balance the airflow), and warming up in cold climates. Other than that, it's best left alone :-) I don't think it's on the early cars, is it? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 16:05:11 2008 From: "E Scanlon" To: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:04:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection If you think it is a "cruise control" then avoid all the cable nonsense and just put a BRICK on your accelerator pedal. It will be just as dangerous and, excuse my bluntness, ... stupid. The Hand Throttle is used to keep the RPM up and the engine going once the Choke is no longer required.... and once the engine has started, there is little need for the Choke. Sorry Loren, while you may have had the presence of mind to disengage it during NORMAL driving, I wouldn't want to be by you if you had to remove it in an emergency. FWIW E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loren Berg" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection >I love my "cruise control". It came in mighty handy driving Interstate 35 > from Dallas/Ft. Worth TX to Minneapolis MN. > > - Loren > '68 1600 w/U20 + 5 sp > '70 2000 parting out ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 16:16:17 2008 From: Tim To: E Scanlon , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:16:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection IT WAS A BLOODY FU****G JOKE. Tim ---- E Scanlon wrote: ============= If you think it is a "cruise control" then avoid all the cable nonsense and just put a BRICK on your accelerator pedal. It will be just as dangerous and, excuse my bluntness, ... stupid. The Hand Throttle is used to keep the RPM up and the engine going once the Choke is no longer required.... and once the engine has started, there is little need for the Choke. Sorry Loren, while you may have had the presence of mind to disengage it during NORMAL driving, I wouldn't want to be by you if you had to remove it in an emergency. FWIW E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loren Berg" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection >I love my "cruise control". It came in mighty handy driving Interstate 35 > from Dallas/Ft. Worth TX to Minneapolis MN. > > - Loren > '68 1600 w/U20 + 5 sp > '70 2000 parting out You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 16:32:27 2008 From: "E Scanlon" To: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:32:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection I must have missed the "smileys"..... E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection > IT WAS A BLOODY FU****G JOKE. > > > Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 18:02:01 2008 From: To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 20:01:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] twisties I need 3 twisties to complete my top boot installation. Looking for the original style and not the machine screw type. Anyone have some for sale or extras lying around? Thanks Gary Tew Peoria, AZ www.members.cox.net/garytew ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 18:14:47 2008 From: Gary Boone To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection I was driving my 2L in an autocross event with a wet course. Coming out of a corner, I ran through a deep pool of water, which splashed a lot of water on the windshield. I quickly tried to pull the wiper switch under full throttle. I accidently pulled the throttle knob instead, which held the the throttle wide open. This was a very scary situation with a combination of no visibility and full open throttle. I'll disconnect that cable if I ever drive on a wet course again. Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: John F Sandhoff To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 3:24:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection In regards to the throttle knob, it was commented: > It is a mechanical "cruise control". Oh, please, don't say that even in joking. Someone may believe you! It's useful to adjust the carbs (set for 2000 rpm and balance the airflow), and warming up in cold climates. Other than that, it's best left alone :-) I don't think it's on the early cars, is it? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 20:01:46 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:01:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Show & Shine Toy Drive '08 *Show & Shine Toy Drive '08* *sponsored by The Datsun Heritage Museum & SoCalROC* ** * *Saturday November 8th from 10:00am to 3:00pm there will be a *Show & Shine Toy Drive *at the Datsun Heritage Museum. This event will be open to * ALL 1978 or older Datsuns*. We are working on getting some car vendors to show up and a few food vendors. This is a fee event, no fee to participate or to go through the museum. We do ask that you show off your Datsun and bring a toy for some under privileged children. *This event is sponsored by The Datsun Heritage Museum and the Southern California Roadster Owners Club (SoCalROC).* ** More announcements will be made as we go forward. If you are interested in helping at this event or know of car or food vendors that would be interested in this event please contact socalroc@gmail.com *This is not a Competitive Car Show. It is a free event to show off your car and to help under privileged children* The Datsun Heritage Museum 41610 Date Street # 103 Murrieta, CA 92562 http://www.datsunheritagemuseum.com/ -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 20:30:57 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" , Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:20:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection Hi Gary, my 69 has a clip, goes on from the back and secures both cables. I lost it while changing cables, to my EXTREME dismay. I used two 5/16" "split shot" fishing weights to trap the cable in the rod. Basically pulled it tight and squeezed the fishing weight onto the cable tight up against the rod, so it held the cable tight to the rod. I needed right-angle needle nose pliers to reach. Drove it 800 miles so far, had to re-squeeze once. It's an interim solution, but safer than a bodged together clip. I figure if it jams in any way, the lead will just break off. Time to get out the magnet and check the drain grating in front of the garage. I could swear I have an extra clip in a junk box somewhere. By the way, If anyone has one, I could use a spare clip too! Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault [mailto:aultgc@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:37 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection Can anyone out there tell me how the hand throttle cable is connected/secured to the throttle bell crank -- the T-shaped frame which moves the throttle cable? My '67-1/2 has the hand throttle cable installed, but the engine room end is loose, and easily slips out of the slot in the bell crank. I have seen U-shaped clips which slip over the slotted shaft and hold the lead-reinforced end of the wire (cable) in place. A photo of a correct installationwould be helpful, but I'll take whatever I can get. Thanks. I'll be happy to send a photo of what I have at present, but I suspect I am missing some sort of clip. Gary Ault (219) 322-1923 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 21:02:04 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:01:56 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] New Roadster ranch web site Hello all, Well, it really isn't new. The host is new. AOL is dropping the web site hosting so I went to Godaddy and registered _http://datsunroadsterranch.com_ (http://datsunroadsterranch.com) . I'm in the middle of sorting out getting it to actually work but it's on the way. So far I can get to it from IE but not from AOL. It's getting late and tomorrow is another day. keith williams **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 11:39:34 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:44:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter--revisited Tim, You might want to check the wires coming from the alternator. Smoke is no good. I would still DC the battery and go around to every electrical connector and ground point on the car and spray electrical contact cleaner and sand the ground points. Some points will be irrelevant to your problem, perhaps, but at least you will have a good beginning reference point. Also check the voltage regulator ground, if you have one, which is the screw holes into the car body.? Since the PO did some wacky wiring there could be more and going around to all connections etc can help you find it before it becomes a meltdown. It still may not help though if it's really a hack job but maybe you can save it. Hope so! The fact that your starter kind of turned may mean it is wiring not the starter itself, thus saving you from pulling the starter and buying a new one. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 8:06 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter--revisited After finding and fixing a mis-grounded negative battery cablebThe PO had it mounted to the aluminum smog pump bracket. OMG! I have been able to get the starter to turn the motor just a littlebthe fan is making about half a turn and there is noise coming from the starterbnot a clicking just a kind of like a slight groan (??I thnk...it is hard to describe--??). I have not kept trying to get the motor to turn over as I have seen a wisp of smoke coming up between the carbs. This must be coming from the starter I have to assume. Is my starter shot? Can they be tested? This is a 70 2000 by the way. If I reposition the jack stand I can get under the car better to see and work on the starter. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Steve Harvey wrote: ============= Tim, I think you can put the car on jack stands, remove the front left wheel and you should be able to get to the starter. Steve P.S. I removed all of the hardware from the bumper and will bring them along on Friday. I had to cut off the two brackets with my torch because the welded nuts broke loose when I tried to unscrew the bolts. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:10 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] starter How do you get to the starter? Is from underneath the only way? I don't know that I can get my hand to it. Will the carbs have to be removed if I cannot get to it from under neath? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as stebharvey@ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 11:40:26 2008 From: To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:20:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] twisties response Thanks to all who responded to my request. This is a great community of car enthusiasts! Thanks again. Gary Tew Peoria, AZ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 11:40:34 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:42:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Midwest Roadster Fall Color Run I am sending this to the whole list just in case someone wants to try to join us. Sorry for the band width. The group leaving from Milwaukee is meeting at Steve's at 7 AM. They will make their way to my house. Everyone is meeting at my house in Belleville between 10 and 11 AM. At my place we are having an impromptu tech session courtesy of Bill Wessel and Steve Jacobson. Thanks in advance guys!!!!! After the tech session and maybe brunch at my house we will make our way to--via some nice twisty roads in the western Wisconsin bluffs-- and spend Friday night in Prairie du Chien, WI. Saturday will be in Savanna, IL at the L&M once again; which is sold out as usual and most likely full of Harley riders again. If ANY ONE wants to try to hook up with us any where along the route, call me!! 608-445-9072 The weather is going to be absolutely perfect. The beers will cold. And the trees are starting to turn. PEACE :-) Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 11:40:42 2008 From: "robert k. smith" To: Tim , E Scanlon , Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:38:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection easy there tim,E, i think most every body has tried using the hand throttle for a cruise control at least once. and, according to their manual dexterity and confidence, have decided: geez, never again! or, well, that was handy, why didnt i think of that before ? im not kidding, but i am trying to be humorous. bob smith 69 srl311> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:16:08 -0700> From: tputland@charter.net> To: escanlon@wa-net.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection> > IT WAS A BLOODY FU****G JOKE.> > > Tim> > > > ---- E Scanlon wrote: > > =============> If you think it is a "cruise control" then avoid all the cable nonsense and > just put a BRICK on your accelerator pedal.> It will be just as dangerous and, excuse my bluntness, ... stupid.> > The Hand Throttle is used to keep the RPM up and the engine going once the > Choke is no longer required.... and once the engine has started, there is > little need for the Choke.> > Sorry Loren, while you may have had the presence of mind to disengage it > during NORMAL driving, I wouldn't want to be by you if you had to remove it > in an emergency.> > FWIW> E> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Loren Berg"> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hand Throttle Cable Connection> > > >I love my "cruise control". It came in mighty handy driving Interstate 35> > from Dallas/Ft. Worth TX to Minneapolis MN.> >> > - Loren> > '68 1600 w/U20 + 5 sp> > '70 2000 parting out> You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 11:40:51 2008 From: Matthew Cox To: roadster list Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] More prototypes Sorry for sending more prototypes, and one that isn't even a Datsun no less, but this thing is just wild. http://www.retrothing.com/2008/10/toyota-rv-2-exc.html Matthew in Phoenix (soon to be Philly) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 13:08:34 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , "'roadster list'" Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:08:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More prototypes Those guys had obviously spent way too much time playing with their Hot Wheels. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Cox Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:47 AM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] More prototypes Sorry for sending more prototypes, and one that isn't even a Datsun no less, but this thing is just wild. http://www.retrothing.com/2008/10/toyota-rv-2-exc.html Matthew in Phoenix (soon to be Philly) Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 13:13:15 2008 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , "'roadster list'" Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:12:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More prototypes That's kind of a cool site. Started browsing and found a car that was definitely ahead of some current fashion trends. Check out the lower lip ring piercings on the front of this 1954 Corvette prototype: http://www.retrothing.com/2008/07/1954-cars-for-t.html I see kids like that at the espresso stands every day. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Cox Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:47 AM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] More prototypes Sorry for sending more prototypes, and one that isn't even a Datsun no less, but this thing is just wild. http://www.retrothing.com/2008/10/toyota-rv-2-exc.html Matthew in Phoenix (soon to be Philly) Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 01:08:48 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" , "Gary Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:08:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Grooved Head! "Singh Groove" that is............ The stock combustion chamber with the domed piston actually has a pretty good squish area, when you stroke it and put in some flat top pistons, you throw that out the window. In an effort to get some of the squish back, I had some welding done. Then, what the hell, I filed it like in this thread: http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine- ... -area.html I read about this several years ago and was skeptical, even tho it was in a well established magazine (Popular Science?). After reading more than my share of forums about it, it comes down to: most people who have tried it seem to think it works. some think it works well, some not so much. Of those that think it works, most concede the biggest improvement is from idle to between 2-3000 rpm. I don't think I read anywhere where they said it hurt performance. Seems more likely to help an older design like the roadster. SO, what the hell. If it improves idle, and emissions I'll be happy. If I get some more torque off idle I'll be happier. I've put a picture in the 'Technical' photo gallery at 311s.org If you would like a picture sent directly, shoot me an email! Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 07:19:37 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Hi folks I have a problem with my 1969 SRL 311. It has the stock alternator, but is not charging. Can anyone advise how to trouble shoot this or advise me of a link? JimG NJ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 12:39:14 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Alternator Thanks to all who advised. I checked all connections. I took the cover off the regulator and lightly cleaned the contacts with 600 grit. I can't find anything on 311 unless I want to change alternators. I don't know where the diodes are, and one suggestion was to look at the brushes, which I don't know anything about at all. I thought only generators had brushes. I did find this on the internet, but I'm not sure which drawing applied to a 69 311. http://www.erareplicas.com/427man/wiring/alternator/trouble.htm I really would like to figure this out without replacing parts. I really don't want to go to the GM alternator if I don't have to. The charging system worked fine until I took the engine out and rebuilt it. I know I connected the wires correctly, but it simply does not charge. JimG ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 13:19:44 2008 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: , "Datsun roadster" Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:19:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Alternator Jim, The diodes are mounted on plates inside of the alternator case. There are brushes to make contact with the armature. When you reassemble the alternator you should look for small holes in the alternator case through which you insert wires to hole the brushes away from the armature util you have the case reassembled. Then pull the wires to release the brushes. Clean the armature up with very fine emmery cloth. The diodes require an ohmeter to check. Assembling the alternator should be pretty straight forward with brush wires in place. I guess I need to finish the Leece/Neville alternator training manual published in 1959 as a training manual for the introduction of alternators in the 1960 Chrysler products. There is some good info there. The scans are done, but I have not had time to get it into PDF format. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:37 AM To: Datsun roadster Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Alternator Thanks to all who advised. I checked all connections. I took the cover off the regulator and lightly cleaned the contacts with 600 grit. I can't find anything on 311 unless I want to change alternators. I don't know where the diodes are, and one suggestion was to look at the brushes, which I don't know anything about at all. I thought only generators had brushes. I did find this on the internet, but I'm not sure which drawing applied to a 69 311. http://www.erareplicas.com/427man/wiring/alternator/trouble.htm I really would like to figure this out without replacing parts. I really don't want to go to the GM alternator if I don't have to. The charging system worked fine until I took the engine out and rebuilt it. I know I connected the wires correctly, but it simply does not charge. JimG You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 14:11:31 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Alternator Tom 12 dvc everywhere. Not more with engine running. Same at back of alternator. Turn on lights, needle shows more discharge. BUT, the white wire feeding down to the starter is not connected to anything. I assume this must be the problem, but WHAT does it connect to? I must have missed it during installation. I don't know how, there is so much room to work with in there..... Hah. Many thanks for all this help. Jim --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Tom Hendricksen wrote: From: Tom Hendricksen Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Datsun Alternator To: gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com, "Datsun roadster" Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 3:19 PM Jim, The diodes are mounted on plates inside of the alternator case. There are brushes to make contact with the armature. When you reassemble the alternator you should look for small holes in the alternator case through which you insert wires to hole the brushes away from the armature util you have the case reassembled. Then pull the wires to release the brushes. Clean the armature up with very fine emmery cloth. The diodes require an ohmeter to check. Assembling the alternator should be pretty straight forward with brush wires in place. I guess I need to finish the Leece/Neville alternator training manual published in 1959 as a training manual for the introduction of alternators in the 1960 Chrysler products. There is some good info there. The scans are done, but I have not had time to get it into PDF format. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:37 AM To: Datsun roadster Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Alternator Thanks to all who advised. I checked all connections. I took the cover off the regulator and lightly cleaned the contacts with 600 grit. I can't find anything on 311 unless I want to change alternators. I don't know where the diodes are, and one suggestion was to look at the brushes, which I don't know anything about at all. I thought only generators had brushes. I did find this on the internet, but I'm not sure which drawing applied to a 69 311. http://www.erareplicas.com/427man/wiring/alternator/trouble.htm I really would like to figure this out without replacing parts. I really don't want to go to the GM alternator if I don't have to. The charging system worked fine until I took the engine out and rebuilt it. I know I connected the wires correctly, but it simply does not charge. JimG You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 14:28:39 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:28:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Alternator The heavy white wire runs from the regulator to the same starter terminal that the battery positive cable is attached to: TinyURL version: http://tinyurl.com/3h9ap5 Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jim Gammon > Tom > > 12 dvc everywhere. Not more with engine running. > > Same at back of alternator. > > Turn on lights, needle shows more discharge. > > BUT, the white wire feeding down to the starter is not connected to anything. > I assume this must be the problem, but WHAT does it connect to? > > I must have missed it during installation. I don't know how, there is so much > room to work with in there..... Hah. > > Many thanks for all this help. > > Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 18:18:23 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:18:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run Group, To all roadster lovers worldwide: We had a blast running the Mississippi this weekend and meeting new friends and seeing old ones. Fall colors starting, 79 degrees this weekend and snow coming soon. Thanks to Tim for a great twisty road run. I can't wait until spring! Steve Milwaukee ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 20:01:35 2008 From: "Fergus OFarrell" To: Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:59:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] roadster alternator check, do a once over first Jim, having come from this before, the first thing I suggets is making sure all connections in the charging loop are sound. I launched off on a GM alt swap, only to find, sometime past the point of half-way, (radiator out, alt purchased, brackets removed) that a single wire sizeable gauge wire in the charging system loop was loose. Since then I have given away both the alt and voltage regulator, and stayed with the GM system, but would saved myself a ton o time if I had only just done a preliminary check and given all the wires in the initial (coming out of the alt and connect to elsewhere) a good once-over. Okay, so once over that, most auto stores can check an alt for charging, but many times it is the voltage reg not telling it when to charge. How to check a regulator I will leave to mroe of the experts. (Sandhoff, Pat Horne, etc) Just remember the roadster mantra: "grounds are good. grounds are good, grounds are good" Fergus O, 69 2000, now in Los Alamitos, CA (the home of Wings, Wheels, and Rotors, coming next week) http://www.wwrexpo.net/sh.htm ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 20:43:09 2008 From: Joseph Jedwabny To: Roadsters Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:42:29 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] How do you clean a gas tank? My 68 spl is hard to start. I never synced the carbs but I have done a tune up, etc. One thing I never thought about was crud in the gas tank. How do you clean one? Thanks in advance.... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 21:31:07 2008 From: Fred Katz To: Joseph Jedwabny Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:30:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you clean a gas tank? It's been some years, but I took mine to a radiator shop at the same time I recored a radiator. The gas tank had more than 20 years of old gummy gas crud. The radiator shop kept it submerged in a hot chemical brew for a month or so, and I think they charged me about $100 for the cleaning. Fred Katz - So.SF, CA On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Joseph Jedwabny wrote: > My 68 spl is hard to start. I never synced the carbs but I have done > a tune up, etc. > One thing I never thought about was crud in the gas tank. > How do you clean one? > > Thanks in advance.... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 21:33:25 2008 From: "Andy M." To: Joseph Jedwabny , Roadsters Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:33:12 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you clean a gas tank? I had mine boiled....i think i took it to a radiator shop. -----Original Message----- >From: Joseph Jedwabny >Sent: Oct 12, 2008 7:42 PM >To: Roadsters >Subject: [Roadsters] How do you clean a gas tank? > >My 68 spl is hard to start. I never synced the carbs but I have done a tune up, etc. >One thing I never thought about was crud in the gas tank. >How do you clean one? > >Thanks in advance.... >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as atmarosi@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 21:37:09 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:36:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadster alternator check, do a once over first I thought it was "Check the grounds, check the grounds, check the grounds" :o) -----Original Message----- From: Fergus OFarrell Just remember the roadster mantra: "grounds are good. grounds are good, grounds are good" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 05:49:09 2008 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:48:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run Breakdown Group, I forgot to mention that never to be outdone, my car did breakdown before we got home yesterday. The lower bolt on the alternator snapped off flush with the mounting bracket. The happy part of the story is that I was one block away from an AutoZone store. Had to buy a punch and a bolt and was back on the road in 30 minutes. I have also decided that I will sit at a different table anytime we stop and eat. That way, everyone will get their food on time and it will be hot! My goal now is to have my restoration roadster on the road next spring. Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 07:48:38 2008 From: Perry Smith To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Rebuild Question To all, I just got the head back on my roadster from the shop. Last year the timing chain slipped a tooth and caused me to lose four exhaust valves  ouch! Note to self: replace the timing chain BEFORE it becomes too loose (e.g. Death Rattle too)! Okay, I removed the head, intake manifold and exhaust header (in one piece) from the engine. (I had to remove the engine supports and loosen the transmission housing bolts to move the engine a little to the left) I then removed the intake and exhaust manifolds from the head to have the head worked-on. Now the head is back together with valves and cam attached but not the manifolds and thermostat. I also had cam-shaft tower shims installed (0.080) as the head had apparently been shaved from the PO. (Nice, thanks for letting me know!) A few quick questions, I hope. Should I re-attach the intake and exhaust manifolds to the head before I install the head into the car? Or, should I install the head and then attach the intake and exhaust manifolds (I already know it's going to be a tight squeeze (but no impossible) on the last exhaust manifold nuts). Or do I just say screw-it and remove the rest of the engine and transmission, reassemble everything and then put it back in to compartment? BTW, as this is being done, Im also replacing the timing chain gear set with new timing chain (set). Even though it wasnt required, I also had the jack-shaft gear hardened locally. TIA, Perry Smith 68 2000 U-20 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 09:08:07 2008 From: Alvin Gogineni To: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:07:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS/BRE Reunion 2008 We drove down to Irvine, CA in a Nissan Quest minivan. The BRE Reunion was amazing. Big thanks to Les for arranging the event...it was 6hrs instead of 3! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2689041090103926530Gdrnbg I think my favorite part was listening to John Morton talk to Horst Qwech on the phone. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2045930070103926530mHgxJF I saw a PArrish hardtop for the first time: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2058905200103926530IyCgke Eddie Wu's hardtop was finished in ALcantara and looked sweet. Finally met Mark(datsunrides) and saw his turbo'd U20: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2158394570103926530wVXsfJ Paul Gabriel with is new friend :D http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2860232020103926530hINAGs Check out the pictures there was a Honda S800 coupe and many other JDM rides! http://rides.webshots.com/album/567968358cTdPFr ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 10:53:19 2008 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:52:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More prototypes Prototypes are fun but pictures do not do these cars justice. It was a nice surprise reading the mail and seeing the pictures. We just got home from 5 days at Hershey PA, right at Hershey Park, for the AACA Fall show, the '51 LeSabre was there in the car corral sharing a tent with several awesome cars. The Fire Birds I and II and III are part of the current display called "Wings" at the AACA Museum in Hershey celebrating rear tail fins.This is quite a show with 26 miles of car flea market aisles, a huge car corral, 4 day classic car auction, and a show on Saturday with almost 2000 beautiful vehicles. John and Gloria Klingman ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 11:09:07 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:09:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run Pics or it never happened! Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:18 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run Group, To all roadster lovers worldwide: We had a blast running the Mississippi this weekend and meeting new friends and seeing old ones. Fall colors starting, 79 degrees this weekend and snow coming soon. Thanks to Tim for a great twisty road run. I can't wait until spring! Steve Milwaukee ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 11:30:41 2008 From: Tim To: Pete Peters , Datsun List Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:30:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run--pics and video coming They're coming. We need to get back on our feet at work after taking time off. Once things are back to normal, my wife will add our newest Midwest Roadtrippers to our web site so they can add their pictures. Hopefully I will be able to add our pics this evening. With any luck we will be able to post the video of Bill Wessell and/or Steve Jacobson chasing me across the state at 80+ MPH! More soon. Tim ---- Pete Peters wrote: ============= Pics or it never happened! Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:18 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Mississippi River Run Group, To all roadster lovers worldwide: We had a blast running the Mississippi this weekend and meeting new friends and seeing old ones. Fall colors starting, 79 degrees this weekend and snow coming soon. Thanks to Tim for a great twisty road run. I can't wait until spring! Steve Milwaukee You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 19:17:48 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Fergus OFarrell" , Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:14:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] roadster alternator check, do a once over first "Grounds are good" as long as they're not in the hot lead.....;-) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus OFarrell" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:59 PM Subject: [Roadsters] roadster alternator check, do a once over first > Jim, > having come from this before, the first thing I suggets is making sure all > connections in the charging loop are sound. > I launched off on a GM alt swap, only to find, sometime past the point of > half-way, (radiator out, alt purchased, brackets removed) that a single > wire > sizeable gauge wire in the charging system loop was loose. Since then I > have > given away both the alt and voltage regulator, and stayed with the GM > system, > but would saved myself a ton o time if I had only just done a preliminary > check and given all the wires in the initial (coming out of the alt and > connect to elsewhere) a good once-over. > > Okay, so once over that, most auto stores can check an alt for charging, > but > many times it is the voltage reg not telling it when to charge. How to > check > a regulator I will leave to mroe of the experts. (Sandhoff, Pat Horne, > etc) > > Just remember the roadster mantra: "grounds are good. grounds are good, > grounds are good" > > Fergus O, 69 2000, now in Los Alamitos, CA (the home of Wings, Wheels, and > Rotors, coming next week) http://www.wwrexpo.net/sh.htm > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 11:36:43 2008 From: Perry Smith To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Rebuild Question To all, I just got the head back on my roadster from the shop. Last year the timing chain slipped a tooth and caused me to lose four exhaust valves  ouch! Note to self: replace the timing chain BEFORE it becomes too loose (e.g. Death Rattle too)! Okay, I removed the head, intake manifold and exhaust header (in one piece) from the engine. (I had to remove the engine supports and loosen the transmission housing bolts to move the engine a little to the left) I then removed the intake and exhaust manifolds from the head to have the head worked-on. Now the head is back together with valves and cam attached but not the manifolds and thermostat. I also had cam-shaft tower shims installed (0.080) as the head had apparently been shaved from the PO . (Nice, thanks for letting me know!) A few quick questions, I hope. Should I re-attach the intake and exhaust manifolds to the head before I install the head into the car? Or, should I install the head and then attach the intake and exhaust manifolds (I already know it's going to be a tight squeeze (but no impossible) on the last exhaust manifold nuts). Or do I just say screw-it and remove the rest of the engine and transmission, reassemble everything and then put it back in to compartment? BTW, as this is being done, Im also replacing the timing chain gear set with new timing chain (set). Even though it wasnt required, I also had the jack-shaft gear hardened locally. TIA, Perry Smith 68 2000 U-20 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 13:05:12 2008 From: iamrockinrich@gmail.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:03:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 2008 JCCS Pictures and videos. HI all! We would like to thank Allan, Merry Ann, and Victor from SoCalROC for talking to us yesterday at the show. We are new to this club and they gave us a lot of ideas about our new 1968 roadster. That was pretty cool to see all the other roadtsers there also. We Hope to meet the rest of you soon, Take care, Rich and Kelly PS Here are my pictures of the show: 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich Here is a video of the roadsters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco _________________ Take Care, Rich & Kelly 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich Member of the SoCal Roadster Owner Club http://higenki.com/socalroc ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 13:54:14 2008 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:53:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Son and his Z in HI Check out the link below. My son (in the Marines) built the red Z with 4.3L GM V6 when he was at home before being shipping off to HI. He is the one 'explaining' next to his Z with the 'high-and-tight' about half way down the second group of pictures. There are some pretty cool Toyotas too. The Datsun pickup was a garage find with low miles. They just put a new paint job on and seat cover. Phil SEROC - hey guys not sure if you all saw the pictures... i still haven't got mine from my friend's camera but some people have uploaded theirs to forums hawaii. check um out here: http://www.forumshawaii.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=447845&page=6 _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn "10 hidden secrets" from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cn s!55 0F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 14:36:49 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:36:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Problem #1 All, As long as I have had a roadster, the gear heads on the list have said that when you are troubleshooting a non-starting car, there are generally two possibilities: 1. No Fuel 2. No Spark I have problem number 1. To explain: The car was down for a couple of months with a bad radiator. Leaked like a sieve and I figured it was time to upgrade to a three row. I did so and finally got it put in and was ready to start the car. I primed the pots on the carbs and she fired right up. And died a minute later... OK. So I check the glass bowl assembly and the gaskette had rotted and was pretty much mush so I thought maybe I was losing the flow from the pump becuase of air getting into the system. I got a new one and put it in and started over. Same thing. There is no new gas entering the bowl, so I am confident the problem is before it. I have a full tank of gas and the lines are pretty new. Do I need to prime the fuel pump? If so how do I do that? I am not that much of a gear head. My soon-to-be wife (yes, for those that know us Shari and I are getting married on December 31st) has been without her "Datsa" for a while now and is getting ancy. So for the sake of my upcoming happiness, please give me some advice on how to proceed as we are ready to get back out on the road. Thanks, Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 15:23:27 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:23:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Problem #1 Thanks for the replies... The line from the tank is good. I was able to siphon gas from the line into a gas can no problem.. Starting to look like the pump? Do I need to prime and if so how do I do that? Is there any easy way to tell if it is good or bad? (Other than it does not appear to be working... Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 15:51:09 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:50:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up Sorry for the OT... Any one out there have/find/use safety glasses that do not fog up on them? I find it hard to keep them on when I have to stop every minute and clean them off. BUT, since I know I am going to be laying under the SRL quite a bit while I sort out the (lack of (?)) grounding and starter issues, I figure I had better keep my eyes protected. TIA and sorry again for the OT band width. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 16:09:43 2008 From: Mike Harper To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up Fogging up.....must be all those girly calendars you have in the garage. You can buy defogger, like rain-x and the like at discount stores. May work on your glasses. Mike SC --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 5:50 PM > Sorry for the OT... > > Any one out there have/find/use safety glasses that do not > fog up on them? > > I find it hard to keep them on when I have to stop every > minute and clean them off. > > BUT, since I know I am going to be laying under the SRL > quite a bit while I sort out the (lack of (?)) grounding and > starter issues, I figure I had better keep my eyes > protected. > > TIA and sorry again for the OT band width. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 16:50:31 2008 From: "Kerry and Kae Zariwny" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:50:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up Hi All I use anti-fog wipes on both my motorcycle helmet visor and safety glasses and so far, no complaints. Bought the wipes at the local motorcycle dealership. Kerry Z Portland Oregon 1968 1600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up > Sorry for the OT... > > Any one out there have/find/use safety glasses that do not fog up on them? > > I find it hard to keep them on when I have to stop every minute and clean > them off. > > BUT, since I know I am going to be laying under the SRL quite a bit while > I sort out the (lack of (?)) grounding and starter issues, I figure I had > better keep my eyes protected. > > TIA and sorry again for the OT band width. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zariwny100@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 17:14:54 2008 From: "Oliver" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:09:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up i highly recommend a face shield. and it doesn't fog up. greasy bits don't taste so good ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 17:23:54 2008 From: Pat To: Andrew Murphy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:23:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Problem #1 Is my email making it to the list? I am running a new version of Thunderbird and haven't seen my replies on the list. I assume that they are just not coming back to me, but don't know for sure. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Andrew Murphy: > All, > > As long as I have had a roadster, the gear heads on the list have said that > when you are troubleshooting a non-starting car, there are generally two > possibilities: > > 1. No Fuel > 2. No Spark > > I have problem number 1. To explain: > > The car was down for a couple of months with a bad radiator. Leaked like a > sieve and I figured it was time to upgrade to a three row. I did so and > finally got it put in and was ready to start the car. I primed the pots on the > carbs and she fired right up. And died a minute later... > > OK. So I check the glass bowl assembly and the gaskette had rotted and was > pretty much mush so I thought maybe I was losing the flow from the pump > becuase of air getting into the system. I got a new one and put it in and > started over. > > Same thing. > > There is no new gas entering the bowl, so I am confident the problem is before > it. I have a full tank of gas and the lines are pretty new. Do I need to prime > the fuel pump? If so how do I do that? I am not that much of a gear head. My > soon-to-be wife (yes, for those that know us Shari and I are getting married > on December 31st) has been without her "Datsa" for a while now and is getting > ancy. So for the sake of my upcoming happiness, please give me some advice on > how to proceed as we are ready to get back out on the road. > > Thanks, > > Andrew Murphy > 1966 1600 > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 > F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1726 - Release Date: 10/15/2008 7:29 AM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 17:28:29 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:28:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up Check with your local optometrist for some Anti Fog. It's a liquid that you spray on, and wipe off. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972 510 4 dr Daisy 1972 510 4 dr unnamed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up > Sorry for the OT... > > Any one out there have/find/use safety glasses that do not fog up on them? > > I find it hard to keep them on when I have to stop every minute and clean > them off. > > BUT, since I know I am going to be laying under the SRL quite a bit while > I sort out the (lack of (?)) grounding and starter issues, I figure I had > better keep my eyes protected. > > TIA and sorry again for the OT band width. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 17:36:06 2008 From: John McCarthy To: Tim , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:35:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up I have a set that say venture II on the side...they dont fog up (or haven't yet). They have a nose bridge that keeps the lenses a clear distance from my face and the edges are cut in a way that gives the sides a vent area. v/r Buddy> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:50:48 -0700> From: tputland@charter.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up> > Sorry for the OT...> > Any one out there have/find/use safety glasses that do not fog up on them? > > I find it hard to keep them on when I have to stop every minute and clean them off. > > BUT, since I know I am going to be laying under the SRL quite a bit while I sort out the (lack of (?)) grounding and starter issues, I figure I had better keep my eyes protected. > > TIA and sorry again for the OT band width.> > Tim> Belleville, WI.> '70 SPL AND SRL> Still clueless but always learning> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as bmccarthy67@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 17:43:31 2008 From: Tim To: Kerry and Kae Zariwny , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:43:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up And you are using this stuff on plastic and it works on the plastic? GREAT! Thanks -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Kerry and Kae Zariwny wrote: ============= Hi All I use anti-fog wipes on both my motorcycle helmet visor and safety glasses and so far, no complaints. Bought the wipes at the local motorcycle dealership. Kerry Z Portland Oregon 1968 1600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up > Sorry for the OT... > > Any one out there have/find/use safety glasses that do not fog up on them? > > I find it hard to keep them on when I have to stop every minute and clean > them off. > > BUT, since I know I am going to be laying under the SRL quite a bit while > I sort out the (lack of (?)) grounding and starter issues, I figure I had > better keep my eyes protected. > > TIA and sorry again for the OT band width. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zariwny100@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 17:43:44 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:42:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up Safety is never OT. Excellent question. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Tim > Sorry for the OT... > > Any one out there have/find/use safety glasses that do not fog up on them? > > I find it hard to keep them on when I have to stop every minute and clean them > off. > > BUT, since I know I am going to be laying under the SRL quite a bit while I sort > out the (lack of (?)) grounding and starter issues, I figure I had better keep > my eyes protected. > > TIA and sorry again for the OT band width. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 17:56:06 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:55:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] starter ground I can see on the starter where the positive batter cable connects and right next to that is another connection with a thin flat wire coming out that runs to the other section of the starter. Is this (other) connection from where I should run a ground strap to the frame? And if I need to replace the starter, is that piece of metal on the frame that can be removed the piece I see straight out from the positive terminal? The piece shaped more like a rhombus or parallelogram? (some one said triangle shaped.) Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 18:22:50 2008 From: Ruth To: SLaifman@SoCal.rr.com, Rollright@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:22:05 +1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up A lot of motorbike visors and vision correction "glasses" haven't been made from glass for a long time. I use an anti-fog wipe I got from the local ski place on my work safety glasses, something they use to defog ski goggles. Seems to work really well. Mine are plastic and about 2 years old, and are still going strong (apart from a few scratches where they kick around under the seat of my car!) Ruth On 16/10/2008, at 9:43 AM, Tim wrote: > And you are using this stuff on plastic and it works on the plastic? > > GREAT! Thanks > -- > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 18:25:06 2008 From: Pat To: Tim Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:24:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter ground Tim, The ground wire to the frame goes onto one of the starter mounting bolts. The flat wire on the solenoid is what takes battery power to the starter motor itself to start the engine. The solenoid performs two functions on our cars, it mechanically engages the starter drive with the flywheel and it is a switch that sends power to the starter to turn it. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Tim: > I can see on the starter where the positive batter cable connects and right next to that is another connection with a thin flat wire coming out that runs to the other section of the starter. > > Is this (other) connection from where I should run a ground strap to the frame? > > And if I need to replace the starter, is that piece of metal on the frame that can be removed the piece I see straight out from the positive terminal? The piece shaped more like a rhombus or parallelogram? (some one said triangle shaped.) > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1726 - Release Date: 10/15/2008 7:29 AM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 18:29:07 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:28:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Problem #1 solved All, Thanks very much for all of the replies. Everyone had great ideas and the one that worked for me was the one I got from Jon Frampton. His advice was to blow air into the gas tank while someone cranks the engine. Being home alone today I fugured what the hell and performed what probably looked like an unnatural act on the filler neck and when I checked the bowl after it was full! A few cranks and she started right up and after checking all of my clamps and hoses and other fittings (I just installed a new radiator), I took the car for a short spin and she drove fine. So I guess priming the pump did the trick although I thought that if I primed the pots on the carbs and put fuel in the bowl it would be enough to get things going but oh well... So it's great to be out on the road again! Thanks again for all of the replies, Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 I'll be in Vegas on December 31st getting married Lake Forest, CA. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 19:45:19 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:44:33 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter ground No, that is -NOT- where you ground the starter to the frame. I know I've posted this here and 311s.org multiple times (thanks, Leigh, for taking that pic): Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Tim > I can see on the starter where the positive batter cable connects and right next > to that is another connection with a thin flat wire coming out that runs to the > other section of the starter. > > Is this (other) connection from where I should run a ground strap to the frame? > > And if I need to replace the starter, is that piece of metal on the frame that > can be removed the piece I see straight out from the positive terminal? The > piece shaped more like a rhombus or parallelogram? (some one said triangle > shaped.) > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 21:30:27 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:29:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter ground That is a larger ground than I usually see, but apparently it is OK to have that size ground wire. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter ground No, that is -NOT- where you ground the starter to the frame. I know I've posted this here and 311s.org multiple times (thanks, Leigh, for taking that pic): Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Tim > I can see on the starter where the positive batter cable connects and right next > to that is another connection with a thin flat wire coming out that runs to the > other section of the starter. > > Is this (other) connection from where I should run a ground strap to the frame? > > And if I need to replace the starter, is that piece of metal on the frame that > can be removed the piece I see straight out from the positive terminal? The > piece shaped more like a rhombus or parallelogram? (some one said triangle > shaped.) > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 21:50:52 2008 From: "robert k. smith" To: Joseph Jedwabny , Roadsters Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:50:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How do you clean a gas tank? hi joseph, first i would try to look in the tank to see how it looks. you can look in the filler spot with a bright lite(ok). or you can take the sender out of the top of the tank and use a bright lite(better). also look in the fuel filter for trash. and if you drain the tank first, you might see trash coming out, or at the least, you can see better with the lite the other ways. about the carbs: be sure to take the fittings loose at the top of the float chambers, and make sure the screens are clean(inside the banjo bolts). good luck, bob smith, ohio.> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:42:29 -0700> From: jedwabny@earthlink.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] How do you clean a gas tank?> > My 68 spl is hard to start. I never synced the carbs but I have done a tune up, etc.> One thing I never thought about was crud in the gas tank.> How do you clean one?> > Thanks in advance....> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 22:51:37 2008 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Andrew Murphy , Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Problem #1 Andrew, Glad you got it running. But, I have had problems in the past with the gasket on the old-style fuel filters: The top is pot metal and can warp, leaving a small air leak -- enough to prevent the pump from drawing from the tank. Just keep an eye on the joint between the bowl and the metal top to make sure it is not leaking. (The fuel system pressure is negative at that point -- pump suction -- so it shouldn't leak out.) If the car sits for a while you could have the same "no fuel" problem. Don't overtighten the retaining bail on the bowl -- that can damage the bowl or the metal top. Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: Andrew Murphy To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:36:33 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Problem #1 All, As long as I have had a roadster, the gear heads on the list have said that when you are troubleshooting a non-starting car, there are generally two possibilities: 1. No Fuel 2. No Spark I have problem number 1. To explain: The car was down for a couple of months with a bad radiator. Leaked like a sieve and I figured it was time to upgrade to a three row. I did so and finally got it put in and was ready to start the car. I primed the pots on the carbs and she fired right up. And died a minute later... OK. So I check the glass bowl assembly and the gaskette had rotted and was pretty much mush so I thought maybe I was losing the flow from the pump becuase of air getting into the system. I got a new one and put it in and started over. Same thing. There is no new gas entering the bowl, so I am confident the problem is before it. I have a full tank of gas and the lines are pretty new. Do I need to prime the fuel pump? If so how do I do that? I am not that much of a gear head. My soon-to-be wife (yes, for those that know us Shari and I are getting married on December 31st) has been without her "Datsa" for a while now and is getting ancy. So for the sake of my upcoming happiness, please give me some advice on how to proceed as we are ready to get back out on the road. Thanks, Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 05:44:45 2008 From: "Stan Rasmussen" To: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:44:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up Scuba divers use spit in their masks to reduce fogging, it works. If you don't want to spit in your eyewear try a very small dab of liquid dishwashing soap rub it around the inside of the lens until its left a clear film, this also works. Stan in Indy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Harper Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:09 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net; Tim Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up Fogging up.....must be all those girly calendars you have in the garage. You can buy defogger, like rain-x and the like at discount stores. May work on your glasses. Mike SC --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 5:50 PM > Sorry for the OT... > > Any one out there have/find/use safety glasses that do not > fog up on them? > > I find it hard to keep them on when I have to stop every > minute and clean them off. > > BUT, since I know I am going to be laying under the SRL > quite a bit while I sort out the (lack of (?)) grounding and > starter issues, I figure I had better keep my eyes > protected. > > TIA and sorry again for the OT band width. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1715 - Release Date: 10/8/2008 7:19 PM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 06:29:27 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 5:29:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Anti-Fog products Thanks to all who replied. I didn't realize that this stuff was also for plastic surfaces. Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 09:11:47 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up Tends to irritate my eyes, I use spit. But only when diving.... Jim --- On Thu, 10/16/08, Stan Rasmussen wrote: From: Stan Rasmussen Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up To: roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 7:44 AM Scuba divers use spit in their masks to reduce fogging, it works. If you don't want to spit in your eyewear try a very small dab of liquid dishwashing soap rub it around the inside of the lens until its left a clear film, this also works. Stan in Indy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mike Harper Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:09 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net; Tim Subject: Re: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up Fogging up.....must be all those girly calendars you have in the garage. You can buy defogger, like rain-x and the like at discount stores. May work on your glasses. Mike SC --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: [Roadsters] safety glasses fogging up > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 5:50 PM > Sorry for the OT... > > Any one out there have/find/use safety glasses that do not > fog up on them? > > I find it hard to keep them on when I have to stop every > minute and clean them off. > > BUT, since I know I am going to be laying under the SRL > quite a bit while I sort out the (lack of (?)) grounding and > starter issues, I figure I had better keep my eyes > protected. > > TIA and sorry again for the OT band width. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as razmataz@indy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1715 - Release Date: 10/8/2008 7:19 PM You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 09:32:57 2008 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter ground On copper conductors, bigger is better. In my business, we use separate negatives that are all copper, no frame grounds are used to carry power, only to bond and equate. My business is Jet fuel equipment and I'm referring to refueler trucks. JimG --- On Wed, 10/15/08, ljordan704@netscape.net wrote: From: ljordan704@netscape.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter ground To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:29 PM That is a larger ground than I usually see, but apparently it is OK to have that size ground wire. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter ground No, that is -NOT- where you ground the starter to the frame. I know I've posted this here and 311s.org multiple times (thanks, Leigh, for taking that pic): Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Tim > I can see on the starter where the positive batter cable connects and right next > to that is another connection with a thin flat wire coming out that runs to the > other section of the starter. > > Is this (other) connection from where I should run a ground strap to the frame? > > And if I need to replace the starter, is that piece of metal on the frame that > can be removed the piece I see straight out from the positive terminal? The > piece shaped more like a rhombus or parallelogram? (some one said triangle > shaped.) > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 09:58:42 2008 From: "E Scanlon" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:57:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anti-Fog products Just don't use Rain-X's Interior Anti-Fog. That stuff is useless. Except to become a nasty oily substance that cannot be removed. I used it ONCE, on my DD Acura, and every day, both morning and afternoon commutes, were literally driving blind. The sunlight hitting the windshield would become a huge glare field. There wasn't ANYTHING I could do to remove it. I used the glass stripper products, lacquer thinner, acetone, and even MEK and couldn't get a clear glass. It wasn't until a rock hit, that cracked the windshield, and therefore replaced the windshield that I was able to get rid of it. The Exterior Rain-X is EXCELLENT in my opinion. FWIW E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:29 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Anti-Fog products > Thanks to all who replied. I didn't realize that this stuff was also for > plastic surfaces. > > Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 10:51:15 2008 From: Tim To: E Scanlon Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 9:50:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anti-Fog --rainX I seem to remember having the same issue with the same product about 10 or so years ago. Maybe this is why I don't know anything about the anti fog products that are out there??? Maybe I thought they were all worthless... Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- E Scanlon wrote: ============= Just don't use Rain-X's Interior Anti-Fog. That stuff is useless. Except to become a nasty oily substance that cannot be removed. I used it ONCE, on my DD Acura, and every day, both morning and afternoon commutes, were literally driving blind. The sunlight hitting the windshield would become a huge glare field. There wasn't ANYTHING I could do to remove it. I used the glass stripper products, lacquer thinner, acetone, and even MEK and couldn't get a clear glass. It wasn't until a rock hit, that cracked the windshield, and therefore replaced the windshield that I was able to get rid of it. The Exterior Rain-X is EXCELLENT in my opinion. FWIW E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:29 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Anti-Fog products > Thanks to all who replied. I didn't realize that this stuff was also for > plastic surfaces. > > Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 16:32:12 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:31:17 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Problem #1 Solved, << Being home alone today I fugured what the hell and performed what probably looked like an unnatural act on the filler neck and when I checked the bowl after it was full! >> Unnatural Act? Perfect opportunity for a Training Session at next Solvang weekend. !!! Andrew can demonstrate, I am sure someone can capture on video, post it on youtube... you too can be a star! Fergus O, 69 2000, prepping for front suspension teardown and full engine gasket swap Los Alamitos, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 18:22:07 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Thomas King'" , Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:21:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] itg solex filters Hi Tom, I think you may have a clearance issue with the brake master cylinder. I used some K&N oval filters on my 2000 Solex and they hit the BMC when the engine would rock. Look into these: http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/CTGY/PFFC08 They look cool and FLOW!!! Because they're domed, they eliminate clearance issues. These guys have a GREAT price too. Believe me, I checked. This is about $20 less than ANYONE else. Matt Smith -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Thomas King Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:00 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] itg solex filters Ok, seems i made up some name for a solex filter. NOT an IGA (think that was a store down the street when I was a kid) anyway I looking for some feedback on the ITG filters. Specifically wanting know how they fit and flow ect. Also, does anyone now which size is for the solexs? Thanks. Thomas 68 2000 et al You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 18:43:03 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'E Scanlon'" , "'Tim'" , Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:42:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anti-Fog products They may have changed the formula, because I use it every winter and have never had that problem. Anti-fog on the inside and regular rain-x on the outside. Matt Smith -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:57 AM To: Tim; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anti-Fog products Just don't use Rain-X's Interior Anti-Fog. That stuff is useless. Except to become a nasty oily substance that cannot be removed. I used it ONCE, on my DD Acura, and every day, both morning and afternoon commutes, were literally driving blind. The sunlight hitting the windshield would become a huge glare field. There wasn't ANYTHING I could do to remove it. I used the glass stripper products, lacquer thinner, acetone, and even MEK and couldn't get a clear glass. It wasn't until a rock hit, that cracked the windshield, and therefore replaced the windshield that I was able to get rid of it. The Exterior Rain-X is EXCELLENT in my opinion. FWIW E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:29 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Anti-Fog products > Thanks to all who replied. I didn't realize that this stuff was also for > plastic surfaces. > > Tim You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 18:44:35 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:44:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Many replies at once Hi All. Sorry to be sending replies to subjects all at once. I had a heart attack on 10/02 and am just now getting to my emails. Doctor said I need to de-stress. I think that's a prescription for more roadster driving!!! Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 18:50:13 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:50:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster OK, this is weird. A definite head scratcher. When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. I've looked for loose wires. I've got a new fuel pump. New fuel lines and filter. My fuel pressure is a pretty steady 4.5 PSI. This started about a week ago. I don't have ANY clue what it may be. No issues turning right. This is a U20 Solex. Any clues or ideas where to start? Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 19:03:57 2008 From: "robert k. smith" To: "Matthew A. Smith" , "'datsun-roadsters: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:03:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Many replies at once hi matt, sorry to hear about your health problems. im sure we are all glad to see you on the mend. welcome back! yeah, i think the doctor prescribes a big dose of roadster that will help mind and body. sincerely, bob smith, ohio > From: matthews517@earthlink.net> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:44:29 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] Many replies at once> > Hi All.> > Sorry to be sending replies to subjects all at once. I had a heart attack on> 10/02 and am just now getting to my emails. > > Doctor said I need to de-stress. I think that's a prescription for more> roadster driving!!!> > Matt Smith> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. http://skydrive.live.com/welcome.aspx?provision=1?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_ 102008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 19:13:31 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:09:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Your roadster is clearly trying to tell you something about what to do on Nov. 2nd. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:50 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Subject: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster OK, this is weird. A definite head scratcher. When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. I've looked for loose wires. I've got a new fuel pump. New fuel lines and filter. My fuel pressure is a pretty steady 4.5 PSI. This started about a week ago. I don't have ANY clue what it may be. No issues turning right. This is a U20 Solex. Any clues or ideas where to start? Matt Smith You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 19:16:09 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:12:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Make that Nov. 4th. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Andy Cost Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:10 PM To: Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Your roadster is clearly trying to tell you something about what to do on Nov. 2nd. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:50 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Subject: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster OK, this is weird. A definite head scratcher. When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. I've looked for loose wires. I've got a new fuel pump. New fuel lines and filter. My fuel pressure is a pretty steady 4.5 PSI. This started about a week ago. I don't have ANY clue what it may be. No issues turning right. This is a U20 Solex. Any clues or ideas where to start? Matt Smith You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 19:43:00 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:42:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 1970 Avanti II $4k in Virginia there's an Avanti II for sale about 50 miles from here with L88 AT came out of Texas, supposed to be real sound underneatth, body supposed to be good, interior dried out and in need of particular attention. he drove it home about 6 weeks ago from where he'd bought it up here in his home town and said the brakes were "kinda spongy" I don't have any bucks or I'd probably be owning it myself I could go look at it tomorrow morning if anyone's interested and has the funds... contact me offlist or call me 540-631-5852 Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 20:28:31 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Matthew A. Smith" , "'datsun-roadsters: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:27:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Many replies at once Sorry to hear that Matt. Follow the doctors orders and don't try to do too much too soon. As long as the roadster is working have fun driving it! Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" > Hi All. > > Sorry to be sending replies to subjects all at once. I had a heart attack > on > 10/02 and am just now getting to my emails. > > Doctor said I need to de-stress. I think that's a prescription for more > roadster driving!!! > > Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 21:22:53 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "Matthew A. Smith" , "'datsun-roadsters: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:22:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Check the cap, rotor and plug wires. I once had a coil wire that was going bad, and it did that because of the centrifugal force when turning one way. Also check wires along their length for chafing, not just the connections. Sometimes the insulation will wear off, and the centrifugal force thing can happen. Also sticking carb float. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972 510 4 dr Daisy 1972 510 4 dr un-named ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster > OK, this is weird. A definite head scratcher. > > When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. I've looked > for loose wires. I've got a new fuel pump. New fuel lines and filter. My > fuel pressure is a pretty steady 4.5 PSI. This started about a week ago. I > don't have ANY clue what it may be. No issues turning right. > > This is a U20 Solex. > > Any clues or ideas where to start? > > > > Matt Smith > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 23:26:45 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:26:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Remember, three rights make a left. When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. No issues turning right. Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 00:18:08 2008 From: "Bubba" To: "SlowBoy" , Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:17:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Yeah, but two rights make an airplane. Bob Winslade ----- Original Message ----- From: "SlowBoy" To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster > Remember, three rights make a left. > > > When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. No issues > turning right. > > > Matt Smith > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 00:32:23 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:36:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster There was a guy on the 311s.org with a similar problem earlier this year. Took several months before he finally discovered (by accident) that it was a faulty coil. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 5:50 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net' Subject: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster OK, this is weird. A definite head scratcher. When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. I've looked for loose wires. I've got a new fuel pump. New fuel lines and filter. My fuel pressure is a pretty steady 4.5 PSI. This started about a week ago. I don't have ANY clue what it may be. No issues turning right. This is a U20 Solex. Any clues or ideas where to start? Matt Smith Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 05:53:03 2008 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:52:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster My gas and temp gauges did this for years. Intermittent wiring fault triggered by loading to the right (left hand turn). But most importantly -- take care of yourself! - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Bubba wrote: > Check the cap, rotor and plug wires. I once had a coil wire that was > going bad, and it did that because of the centrifugal force when > turning one way. > > Also check wires along their length for chafing, not just the > connections. Sometimes the insulation will wear off, and the > centrifugal force thing can happen. > > Also sticking carb float. > > Bob Winslade > 1966-1600 Missy > 1967-1600 Bender > 1972 510 4 dr Daisy > 1972 510 4 dr un-named > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" > > To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:50 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster > > >> OK, this is weird. A definite head scratcher. >> >> When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. I've >> looked >> for loose wires. I've got a new fuel pump. New fuel lines and filter. My >> fuel pressure is a pretty steady 4.5 PSI. This started about a week >> ago. I >> don't have ANY clue what it may be. No issues turning right. >> >> This is a U20 Solex. >> >> Any clues or ideas where to start? >> >> >> >> Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 07:18:07 2008 From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'Bubba'" , "'datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net'" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:17:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I have been doing some wiring changes recently and may have knocked something loose under the dash or near the starter. Also, I recently put on new Accel plug wires, so that will be checked too. Maybe I didn't get the end connector on quite right. Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bubba Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 11:23 PM To: Matthew A. Smith; 'datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Check the cap, rotor and plug wires. I once had a coil wire that was going bad, and it did that because of the centrifugal force when turning one way. Also check wires along their length for chafing, not just the connections. Sometimes the insulation will wear off, and the centrifugal force thing can happen. Also sticking carb float. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972 510 4 dr Daisy 1972 510 4 dr un-named ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster > OK, this is weird. A definite head scratcher. > > When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. I've looked > for loose wires. I've got a new fuel pump. New fuel lines and filter. My > fuel pressure is a pretty steady 4.5 PSI. This started about a week ago. I > don't have ANY clue what it may be. No issues turning right. > > This is a U20 Solex. > > Any clues or ideas where to start? > > > > Matt Smith > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 11:21:15 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:20:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] grounded starter--different question Once I got the starter grounded to the frame, she fired right up. And no, I never did run a ground strap from the positive lead into the starter, I just could not see any other bolts at that time. I was not really "looking" at the starter correctly--AGAIN, read the last line in my signature. Here is my "different question": Why is it that the car used to start, and quite easily, this past summer, with NO gound from the starter to the frame? Then once I had time to address the brakes last month, the starter would no longer turn the motor?? Thanks Getting a little less clueless every day! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 12:10:27 2008 From: "David R. Conrad" To: Bubba Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:09:58 -1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Bubba wrote: > Yeah, but two rights make an airplane. > Punny, ha, ha! (but the tense is incorrect) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 13:23:14 2008 From: craig thurgood To: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:22:44 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] new guy My first time on this page I have 4 roadsters and plenty of parts also I need a windo for a 67 1/2 1600 anyone out there have one Craig _________________________________________________________________ Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_102008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 13:39:51 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:43:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Not the tense, the spelling. OTOH, this one is: Coffee made Bill two tense; "I am...I was...I am...I was..." Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David R. Conrad Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 11:10 AM To: Bubba Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster Bubba wrote: > Yeah, but two rights make an airplane. > Punny, ha, ha! (but the tense is incorrect) Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 20:31:58 2008 From: "SlowBoy" To: "'craig thurgood'" , Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:30:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] new guy Well New Guy, Make sure you go to this site and sign up for the BB so you can see all the threads. http://311s.org/ http://311s.org/phpBB3/index.php http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of craig thurgood Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:23 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] new guy My first time on this page I have 4 roadsters and plenty of parts also I need a windo for a 67 1/2 1600 anyone out there have one Cra ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 21:42:25 2008 From: Gary Boone To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Instrument regulator test Hi Roadster Gang, I'm not getting any indication from the fuel gauge or engine temp gauge. I've grounded the sensors with the key ON and still get nothing from either gauge. So I suspect the regulator under the dash is the problem. I've made sure the mounting screw is clean and tight because I know it requires this as a ground for it to work properly. I've also made sure the connectors are nice and clean. I've pulled the regulator out and want to test it before just finding a new one. It's not that old anyway. How does one bench test this regulator? I have some ideas but wanted opinions from electrical gurus. Thanks. Gary Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 22:30:06 2008 From: "dave" To: "'Datsun List'" Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:27:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster You know, Pete's right. Coil is an easy place to start, fast swap. And makes perfect sense, it is oil filled, oil sloshes easily, and any debris would short it. Simply change it and go turn left. For a quick test, any point type coil would work. If you're bored, flip the old one in the other direction, then turn right. :) Also, check the ballast resistor, same idea, the terminal flops and breaks the connection. If it's not the coil, I wonder if you could duplicate it by jacking the left side of the car up, so gravity simulates the turning force? Would be a pain and require serious jackstands ETC but you could see where everything shifts. Good luck Dave Brisco The post Pete mentioned. http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7535 and the solution http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7916&p=53641 Funny, all the almost all the questions asked were the same. -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] There was a guy on the 311s.org with a similar problem earlier this year. Took several months before he finally discovered (by accident) that it was a faulty coil. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [OK, this is weird. A definite head scratcher. When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. I've looked for loose wires. I've got a new fuel pump. New fuel lines and filter. My fuel pressure is a pretty steady 4.5 PSI. This started about a week ago. I don't have ANY clue what it may be. No issues turning right. This is a U20 Solex. Any clues or ideas where to start? Matt Smith Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 23:31:11 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: Gary Boone Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Instrument regulator test On Sat, 18 Oct 2008, Gary Boone wrote: > ...I've pulled the regulator out and want to test it before just > finding a new one... How does one bench test this regulator? Connect a voltmeter - or a small (like a dash light) 12 volt bulb to the case and to one of the connectors. Then connect 12 volts (polarity does not matter) to the case and the other terminal. You should see voltage (or the lamp will light) for a few seconds, then it will go out. A few seconds later, the voltage MAY come back on. For these results to be accurate, you must have the voltage indicator connected BEFORE you apply the voltage. If you NEVER see voltage: The regulator is open (i.e. no good). You MAY be able to open it and clean the contacts, but it probably won't last. If the voltage PULSATES (on... off... on... off...) the regulator is GOOD, and you have it wired correctly (the terminal you applied voltage to connects to the 'hot' lead from the ignition switch). If you get voltage ONCE and then it stays off, you have the regulater connected backwards. Disconnect power, Move the indicator to the other connector, apply voltage to the now-available connector and you should see on... off... on... off... Important troubleshooting tip: If your gauges momentarily start to move when you turn on the key and then drop back to zero, and you've been mucking with the wiring, you probably connected the regulator in backwards. If your gauges read way too high, possibly off the scale, the regulator is either bad... OR the ground is bad. Unscrew it, clean the screw, case, and body contact point (small wire brush) and reattach. "next lesson will be on how this simple box acts as a temperature compensator so the temperature-sensitive electric gauges are (relatively) accurate regardless of it being zero degrees or a hundred degrees" (or check the archives :-) ). In other words, you can't just replace it with a constant-voltage regulator. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 08:02:52 2008 From: Pat To: Gary Boone Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:02:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Instrument regulator test Gary, Have you disconnected the two wires from the regulator lately? One of the terminals is marked "Ign", which needs the hot wire connected to it. The wire that goes to the gauges goes to the unmarked pin. If the wires are reversed the gauges will rise a bit, then drop to zero and stay there. The regulator will still warm up as usual. If the regulator is working correctly the output pin will pulse on and off every few seconds. One problem with older regulators is that the brass rivets that connect the pins to the internals of the regulator can get corroded and not make contact. I've opened mine up and soldered the rivets to the internal connections, as well as the rivets to the pins. The regulator is nothing more than a bi-metal strip with a heater wrapped around it. On the end of the strip is a contact that turns the power to the heater and gauges on and off every few seconds. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Gary Boone: > Hi Roadster Gang, > I'm not getting any indication from the fuel gauge or engine temp gauge. I've grounded the sensors with the key ON and still get nothing from either gauge. So I suspect the regulator under the dash is the problem. I've made sure the mounting screw is clean and tight because I know it requires this as a ground for it to work properly. I've also made sure the connectors are nice and clean. I've pulled the regulator out and want to test it before just finding a new one. It's not that old anyway. How does one bench test this regulator? I have some ideas but wanted opinions from electrical gurus. Thanks. > > Gary > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: 10/18/2008 6:01 PM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 08:04:47 2008 From: Pat To: Tim Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:04:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] grounded starter--different question Tim, Did you possibly move the battery ground cable from the engine to the body when you put the engine back in? Peace, Pat Thusly spake Tim: > Once I got the starter grounded to the frame, she fired right up. And no, I never did run a ground strap from the positive lead into the starter, I just could not see any other bolts at that time. I was not really "looking" at the starter correctly--AGAIN, read the last line in my signature. > > Here is my "different question": > > Why is it that the car used to start, and quite easily, this past summer, with NO gound from the starter to the frame? Then once I had time to address the brakes last month, the starter would no longer turn the motor?? > > Thanks > > Getting a little less clueless every day! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1731 - Release Date: 10/17/2008 7:01 PM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 11:28:19 2008 From: Tim To: Pat@HorneSystemstx.com Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:26:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] grounded starter--different question I never had the engine out of this car. It was running fine at the beginning of last summer (08). It was the brakes that were bad. I never had the time to deal with them. Once I started to work on the brakes about three weeks ago, the car would not start. This is when I noticed the negative battery cable was run to the smog pump bracket by the PO. I ran the neg cable to the frame, ran a ground strap from the front of the engine to the frame and another strap from the starter to the frame and she fired right up. But why would she still run the way she was set up before? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Pat wrote: ============= Tim, Did you possibly move the battery ground cable from the engine to the body when you put the engine back in? Peace, Pat Thusly spake Tim: > Once I got the starter grounded to the frame, she fired right up. And no, I never did run a ground strap from the positive lead into the starter, I just could not see any other bolts at that time. I was not really "looking" at the starter correctly--AGAIN, read the last line in my signature. > > Here is my "different question": > > Why is it that the car used to start, and quite easily, this past summer, with NO gound from the starter to the frame? Then once I had time to address the brakes last month, the starter would no longer turn the motor?? > > Thanks > > Getting a little less clueless every day! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1731 - Release Date: 10/17/2008 7:01 PM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 12:43:05 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: Tim Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] grounded starter--different question > ...This is when I noticed the negative battery cable was run to > the smog pump bracket by the PO. That's almost exactly how I've got my 1600 set up. I have a dual-cable negative (two wires from the battery clamp). One goes under a bolt that holds the smog pump, providing a very solid engine (and thus starter) ground, and the other goes to the large screw into the frame. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 13:02:36 2008 From: Jim InVirginia To: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:02:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: new guy From: nqrithfordatsun@msn.comTo: cthurgood@msn.comSubject: RE: [Roadsters] new guyDate: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:01:17 -0400 Welcome!There are plenty of folks out there with a window for your 67.5....let the list knowif your East Coast, West Coast, or somewhere in between, as postage will have something to do with your cost! Best Regards,Jim in Virginia67 pushrod 2L "SAKE RKT"66 parts car (which may have a window)72 510 Sportwagon Project> From: cthurgood@msn.com> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:22:44 -0600> Subject: [Roadsters] new guy> > My first time on this page I have 4 roadsters and plenty of parts also I need> a windo for a 67 1/2 1600 anyone out there have one Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 23:38:20 2008 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Red Roadster spotted Sunday, 3:45 pm 210 frwy Eastbound @ around Arcadia calif. I was in my RV and could not catch up to give a thumbs up! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 09:31:44 2008 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'dave'" , "'Datsun List'" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:31:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] It's never the coil, until one day it is (or was). Just my 1.5 cents Walt Peterson -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:27 PM To: 'Datsun List' Cc: 'Matthew A. Smith' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Left turn, dead roadster You know, Pete's right. Coil is an easy place to start, fast swap. And makes perfect sense, it is oil filled, oil sloshes easily, and any debris would short it. Simply change it and go turn left. For a quick test, any point type coil would work. If you're bored, flip the old one in the other direction, then turn right. :) Also, check the ballast resistor, same idea, the terminal flops and breaks the connection. If it's not the coil, I wonder if you could duplicate it by jacking the left side of the car up, so gravity simulates the turning force? Would be a pain and require serious jackstands ETC but you could see where everything shifts. Good luck Dave Brisco The post Pete mentioned. http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7535 and the solution http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7916&p=53641 Funny, all the almost all the questions asked were the same. -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] There was a guy on the 311s.org with a similar problem earlier this year. Took several months before he finally discovered (by accident) that it was a faulty coil. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [OK, this is weird. A definite head scratcher. When turning left even at a fairly slow speed, my engine dies. I've looked for loose wires. I've got a new fuel pump. New fuel lines and filter. My fuel pressure is a pretty steady 4.5 PSI. This started about a week ago. I don't have ANY clue what it may be. No issues turning right. This is a U20 Solex. Any clues or ideas where to start? Matt Smith Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 15:59:24 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:58:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] The return of Problem #1 All, I guess I should have listened to the more experienced people out there in regards to my fuel starvation issue. If you recall, I had problems keeping my carbs fueled and after many times priming both the carbs pots and the fuel bowl, I seem to be back where I started. Some interesting symptoms: 1. When cold starting in the morning, the pots run out of fuel and engine dies within a minute. 2. Once I manually prime the pots and the fuel bowl (which can take several attempts) I can get the car to run 3. When out on the road, the car pulls fine in first and second gears up to 5K RPM, but in third gear, the car starts to lose power and miss at about 4K RPM 4. Once into 4th gear and if I keep the car below 4K RPM the car runs fine. Let the car cool off and start the whole process over. I am thinking the fuel pump is not working right. So I figure I will just go ahead and get a new one as they are not too expensive. I am going to order the pump and spacer block. Any tips on installation? Any "gotchas" I should know about? It looks easy enough - just remove the battery and tray and alternator to get at it. R&R I am thinking... Any other thoughts from the community? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I REALLY want to bring the car to the toy drive at the Datsun Heritage Museum on the 8th of November. Thanks, Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns! 20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 17:09:32 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:09:09 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The return of Problem #1 1. Ensure the little filter inlet screens are clean. 2. Do you have fuel filters in the lines? If no, add 'em. If yes, are they staying clean? 3. Did you confirm no crap in the tank that might be intermittently and/or blocking the outlet? 4. When replacing the fuel pump, some folks have had to loosen the passenger side motor mount and jack up the engine a little on that side to get the fuel pump in. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Andrew Murphy > All, > > I guess I should have listened to the more experienced people out there in > regards to my fuel starvation issue. If you recall, I had problems keeping my > carbs fueled and after many times priming both the carbs pots and the fuel > bowl, I seem to be back where I started. > > Some interesting symptoms: > > 1. When cold starting in the morning, the pots run out of fuel and engine dies > within a minute. > 2. Once I manually prime the pots and the fuel bowl (which can take several > attempts) I can get the car to run > 3. When out on the road, the car pulls fine in first and second gears up to 5K > RPM, but in third gear, the car starts to lose power and miss at about 4K RPM > 4. Once into 4th gear and if I keep the car below 4K RPM the car runs fine. > > Let the car cool off and start the whole process over. > > I am thinking the fuel pump is not working right. So I figure I will just go > ahead and get a new one as they are not too expensive. I am going to order the > pump and spacer block. Any tips on installation? Any "gotchas" I should know > about? It looks easy enough - just remove the battery and tray and alternator > to get at it. R&R I am thinking... > > Any other thoughts from the community? Any help would be greatly appreciated. > I REALLY want to bring the car to the toy drive at the Datsun Heritage Museum > on the 8th of November. > > Thanks, > > Andrew Murphy > 1966 1600 > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns! > 20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 20:32:52 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:32:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel issue status All, Once again my thanks to everyone who responded to my fuel issues. For such a simple system, there sure does seem to be a lot that can go wrong with it. Also thanks to those who said not to pull the trigger too quickly on the fuel pump as they usually either work or don't - no in between. Many also commented that it seemed to be air in the fuel system that was causing my grief. So once more unto the fuel filter I go... I took the filter assembly completely apart and cleaned it thoroughly. I then put the new cork gaskette on and put a thin coat of grease around it and then put the spring and filter in and carefully closed the assembly and re-attached to the system. When I fired the engine, I was gratified to see the fuel bowl quickly fill up. I let the car idle until it came up to temperature and then took it out for a trip around the block. No power loss at 4K RPM in third gear, so I extended the drive and spun the car up and down the power band with no problems. Hopefully this will be it. I know they look cool and all, but the glass bowl assembly has been a bit of a pain and I understand why they went away. So I will drive the car again tomorrow and hope I have seen the last of my fuel issues (at least for a while) Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns! 20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 23:20:31 2008 From: "stan" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:20:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] soft top Hi group. I'm wondering if anyone out there would be kind enough to forward me any pics of their soft top while in the "up" position. It appears as though the thousands of pictures of Datsun Roadsters on the net show them mostly with the top down. Go figure. I guess you guys have never driven up to Vancouver before. I'm particularity looking for close ups of the way the glass sits in the soft top. I'm attempting to begin my installation of a new top and have nothing to go by. I really don't want to mess this up. Any and as many pictures would be very much appreciated. Cheers! Stan 1969- 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 23:26:52 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "stan" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:26:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft top You mean aside from the fact that the 'glass' is plastic?? ;-) Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "stan" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] soft top > Hi group. I'm wondering if anyone out there would be kind enough to > forward me any pics of their soft top while in the "up" position. > > It appears as though the thousands of pictures of Datsun Roadsters on > the net show them mostly with the top down. Go figure. > I guess you guys have never driven up to Vancouver before. > > I'm particularity looking for close ups of the way the glass sits in the > soft top. I'm attempting to begin my installation of a new top and have > nothing > to go by. I really don't want to mess this up. > > Any and as many pictures would be very much appreciated. > > Cheers! > > Stan > 1969- 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as drlsmith@dccnet.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 05:57:31 2008 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: "Daryl Smith" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:56:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft top I think he is talking about the door glass ans getting the top around them... not sure. The soft top windows come installed, or sewn in at least. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Daryl Smith wrote: > You mean aside from the fact that the 'glass' is plastic?? ;-) > > Daryl > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "stan" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:20 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] soft top > > > Hi group. I'm wondering if anyone out there would be kind enough to >> forward me any pics of their soft top while in the "up" position. >> >> It appears as though the thousands of pictures of Datsun Roadsters on >> the net show them mostly with the top down. Go figure. >> I guess you guys have never driven up to Vancouver before. >> >> I'm particularity looking for close ups of the way the glass sits in the >> soft top. I'm attempting to begin my installation of a new top and have >> nothing >> to go by. I really don't want to mess this up. >> >> Any and as many pictures would be very much appreciated. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Stan >> 1969- 1600 >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as drlsmith@dccnet.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 06:23:07 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Chris & Christy Breyer" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:22:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft top Of course! I wasn't thinkin' of that tho.....dum, dum, dum.......... ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris & Christy Breyer To: Daryl Smith Cc: stan ; Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft top I think he is talking about the door glass ans getting the top around them... not sure. The soft top windows come installed, or sewn in at least. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Daryl Smith wrote: You mean aside from the fact that the 'glass' is plastic?? ;-) Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "stan" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] soft top Hi group. I'm wondering if anyone out there would be kind enough to forward me any pics of their soft top while in the "up" position. It appears as though the thousands of pictures of Datsun Roadsters on the net show them mostly with the top down. Go figure. I guess you guys have never driven up to Vancouver before. I'm particularity looking for close ups of the way the glass sits in the soft top. I'm attempting to begin my installation of a new top and have nothing to go by. I really don't want to mess this up. Any and as many pictures would be very much appreciated. Cheers! Stan 1969- 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as drlsmith@dccnet.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 08:16:24 2008 From: stan k To: Daryl Smith Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:15:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft top lol Daryl, I guess I should have been more clear. I meant the sides where the drivers and passenger windows roll up. The tops i've seen have several lips and i'm trying to figure out how the glass sits in. Well at least you made me laugh early this morning :) Cheers Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: Daryl Smith Date: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:26 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] soft top To: stan , Datsun Roadster List > You mean aside from the fact that the 'glass' is plastic?? > ;-) > > Daryl > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stan" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:20 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] soft top > > > > Hi group. I'm wondering if anyone out there would be > kind enough to > > forward me any pics of their soft top while in the "up" position. > > > > It appears as though the thousands of pictures of Datsun > Roadsters on > > the net show them mostly with the top down. Go figure. > > I guess you guys have never driven up to Vancouver before. > > > > I'm particularity looking for close ups of the way the glass > sits in the > > soft top. I'm attempting to begin my installation of a > new top and have > > nothing > > to go by. I really don't want to mess this up. > > > > Any and as many pictures would be very much appreciated. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Stan > > 1969- 1600 > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as drlsmith@dccnet.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 12:55:18 2008 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: matthews517@earthlink.net Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:53:13 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] itg solex filters Be careful about the foam deteriorating over time. Years ago when I had these I cleaned them with dishwashing liquid (as I recall) and a day or so later sucked a huge chunk of one into my carb, getting stuck in the throttle plate and causing a scene on the highway. Took a while to fish it out. That was with the plastic holder inside. Really strange. Greg Burrows 67 2000 Solex -- "Matthew A. Smith" wrote: Hi Tom, I think you may have a clearance issue with the brake master cylinder. I used some K&N oval filters on my 2000 Solex and they hit the BMC when the engine would rock. Look into these: http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/CTGY/PFFC08 They look cool and FLOW!!! Because they're domed, they eliminate clearance issues. These guys have a GREAT price too. Believe me, I checked. This is about $20 less than ANYONE else. Matt Smith -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Thomas King Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:00 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] itg solex filters Ok, seems i made up some name for a solex filter. NOT an IGA (think that was a store down the street when I was a kid) anyway I looking for some feedback on the ITG filters. Specifically wanting know how they fit and flow ect. Also, does anyone now which size is for the solexs? Thanks. Thomas 68 2000 et al You are subscribed as matthews517@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4s80aSTbFudxzvSnoF2XZu6g 0hWVc6mDqHqgpTUXqiHbaImA/?count=1234567890 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 10:16:53 2008 From: "chalsted" To: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:15:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 66 1600 and 68 2000 fs on Washington DC Craigslist I just posted a California '66 1600 and a 68 2000 on DC Craigslist, along with a Datsun Roadster parts listing if anyone out this way is interested. each car under $3k Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 18:39:55 2008 From: "Oliver" To: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:39:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] low windshiedl head removal and replacement hi, all. i'm a bit of a mechanic, but now i'm about to venture into parts unknown. to add a little humor to your day, with cylinder #1 at tdc, i can put an air line into the spark plug hole and it comes right out spark plug hole #2! so, its time to pull the head. never btdt. looked on 311s.org, and in the datsunparts manual, but there's not much there. i can pull carbs and manifolds, and even get them back, so i know how to start. i pulled the engine on this car and put in a new clutch, just to give you a little background, but i've never opened up an engine! would anyone mind taking a minute and laying out the steps for me? i know its important to keep parts in order and put them back that way, and i know torqueing is involved, but other than that i'm clueless. thanks so much! www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 22:38:08 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Oliver'" , Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:08:01 +1030 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] low windshiedl head removal and replacement A list but probably not exhaustive: - Remove all the coolant hoses, spark plug wires, sensor wire and fuel lines. Remove the inlet and exhaust manifolds. Remove the head bolts in the reverse order of tightening i.e. release the ends first and work your way into the centre. Remove the head from the engine. Dismantle the rocker shaft from the head. Keep the valves, rockers, push rods and cam followers in order when dismantling. I use plastic zip lock freezer or sandwich bags to store these bits in, you can write on them with a permamnent marking pen. This is mainly for inspection and fault diagnosis. The machine shop should be able to repair and pressure test the head, re-cut the seats, grind the valves and re-face the cam followers and rockers for you. Then these items can be re-assembled anywhere since they will have fresh surfaces. Check the rocker arm shaft for wear, they can be badly worn where the rockers pivot. I had to get mine hard chromed to build the surface up to stock. "to add a little humor to your day, with cylinder #1 at tdc, i can put an air line into the spark plug hole and it comes right out spark plug hole #2! Might just be a head gasket??? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 10:03:56 2008 From: "Oliver" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:03:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket www.ranteer.com/misc shows the result after pulling the head. that bit of bolt is no doubt going to be a bugger! my question - obviously the head gasket is trashed. can i put all this back together with new gaskets, and will i be ok? or am i really in deep, and how deep? what is your recommendation at this point. money is an issue . . . ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 11:51:41 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: "Oliver" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:50:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket > www.ranteer.com/misc > ...am i really in deep, and how deep? Mmmm, that rust concerns me. I suspect it's affected the rings, and you'll likely have some problems if you don't clean it out. To get to them, of course, necessitates popping the pistons. When you do that, you'll need to make sure the bearing inserts are still OK - trust me, the rod knock will prove the folly of reusing worn parts. Are the cylinder walls at all etched with the rust? Any problems in the walls call for some machine work (then again, replacing the rings call for a wall honing, or the new rings won't seat). Between cyls 1 and 2, your picture shows what looks to be a strange rough spot. Is that just the picture, or is there any (any at all) damage in the block surface between hole 1 and 2? That's a major issue, as over time the cylinder gases will trench between the two cylinders. That said, you MAY get away with an easy-out and a gasket, but such cars usually quickly end up in another (unsuspecting) owner's hands soon thereafter... Hate to be kinda negative here. I've taken shortcuts before, and it's never turned out well in the long run. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 12:22:17 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Oliver" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:21:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket The rust there concerns me as it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the missing bit of gasket. You may have a bit of a warp in the head if the previous owner overheated it. At the very least, I would have the head checked for straightness and machined true if nescessary. If it needs machining, get it thoroughly checked over. Clean the block and bores (soft cloth!) as thouroughly as possible and post some more pictures. Close ups of the rusty bores and spot where the gasket blew out. Did you drain the coolant before you pulled the head? The block looks to be full................ Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver" > www.ranteer.com/misc > > shows the result after pulling the head. > > that bit of bolt is no doubt going to be a bugger! > > my question - obviously the head gasket is trashed. can i put all this > back together with new gaskets, and will i be ok? or am i really in deep, > and how deep? > > what is your recommendation at this point. money is an issue . . . ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 12:24:41 2008 From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Oliver" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:24:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket Take your time getting the broken bolt out. Lots of penetrant, don't damage the block surface....... If you can spare the bucks, get a stud kit when you bolt the head back on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver" > www.ranteer.com/misc > > shows the result after pulling the head. > > that bit of bolt is no doubt going to be a bugger! > > my question - obviously the head gasket is trashed. can i put all this > back together with new gaskets, and will i be ok? or am i really in deep, > and how deep? > > what is your recommendation at this point. money is an issue . . . ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 12:38:00 2008 From: racery@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:37:36 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Rebuilding a 5- speed- servo overdrive and BW 1-4??? I pulled the cases off one of the 5- speeds I've had kicking around forever, and found it has Borg Warner style cones on 1-4, but a Servo (Porsche) style on 5th. Is that normal? It's been ages since I did the one that's in the car, but I don't remember 'em being mixed. Thanks! Toby 68 1600 Seattle. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 12:41:53 2008 From: "Brian Hollands" To: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:39:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rebuilding a 5- speed- servo overdrive and BW 1-4??? Yes - all 5 spds have a servo ring on 5th. Brian 69 2000 Tampa, FL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 14:47:18 2008 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:46:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] rear brake cylindars I have read that the 15/16" rears are usable on the later model cars. Are they a straight interchange? Or are there mods that have to be done? Are there any advantages to this swap? TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 15:07:54 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Tim Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:07:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylindars > I have read that the 15/16" rears are usable on the later model cars. Changing cylinder size will change the balance between front and rear brakes, and change the brake pedal travel and force required. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 17:29:35 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Oliver'" , "'datsun-roadsters: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:59:17 +1030 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket..Repair advice. You have already rec'd some good advice... My guess for a blown head gasket was close eh? It appears that cyl #3 & #4 are the only ones with a coolant issue. They are the lowest ones when you look at the slight tilt of the engine. Once again, may be due to head gasket or corrosion issues. Anyhoo, my advice.. DON'T use an EZY-OUT on the broken bolt! Whoever named them that was one sarcastic sicko! Head at least [and maybe block] need to be checked for staightness and flatness. Keep the head gasket for the repair shop to inspect. Head may also be cracked if engine has had a coolant failure any time in the past, mine was! I, like others, hesitate to put something like that back together with just fresh gaskets. It may last, but the nagging thought of the inherent liability will spoil any long trips. I would take this opportunity to pull the engine and re-build the whole thing. A fresh top end is really efficient in trashing a tired bottom end! Oh, and due to dodgy Financial dealings in a country which shall remain nameless, money is an issue for EVERYONE at this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have even considered going back to work, but only for a millisecond or so!! Got over that unhealthy thought VERY quickly! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 17:50:46 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:50:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket..Repair advice. ah-HA! So that's how you're able to make progress on car projects. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Graeme" [snip] I have even considered going back to work, but only for a millisecond or so!! Got over that unhealthy thought VERY quickly! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 20:17:46 2008 From: "Oliver" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:16:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket..Repair advice. took the head to a machine shop today. he looked at it and said "Datsun?" a good sign! he pointed out a number of places where the gasket had not held, and tomorrow i'll pick up a freshly resurfaced head. i'm going to clean up the block/cylinder walls as best I can. i've already started the PB Blaster treatments. i've started regimens of PB Blaster and heat for that nasty little bolt. everyone cross your fingers for me!!!!!! with a little luck next week i'll be firing it up. anyone got a replacement head bolt or two for an early 67 1600 to sell? that would be SAE, not metric. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 20:36:48 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:36:33 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinders True, but folks have reported replacing the early 11/16 rear wheel cylinders with the later 3/4 (or 12/16) wheel cylinders without issue. If upgrading an early 11/16 to the later 3/4 (12/16) is okay, maybe upgrading the later 3/4 (12/16) to 13/16 might be okay. I believe 13/16 were used on 510 and 520, maybe other models. Dunno if they'll fit, though. 15/16 are for the all-drum SPL310 and PL411. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John F Sandhoff" > > I have read that the 15/16" rears are usable on the later model cars. > > Changing cylinder size will change the balance between front > and rear brakes, and change the brake pedal travel and force > required. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 21:52:48 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Oliver" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:52:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket Oliver, Drain the block. When we spoke the other evening, I presumed you were going to prep the engine for head removal as if you were going to pull the engine. Sorry. I presume the gasket is still on the head, so the gap which shows up is just missing gasket, not metal erosion. The internal condition of the block doesn't look very good. I would not re-assemble it without some work. However, if the head is straight (within flatness tolerance), and the block also, you might be able to get by with dismantling the block, honing the cylinder bores, and replacing the rings. Leave any rust in the cylinders, and you're likely to score the cylinder walls. (Iron oxide is very hard compared to steel.) I would leave the head check and cylinder honing to a machine shop if you've not done it before. The honing tool is cheap, though, if you are committed to trying it yourself, and it fits onto a conventional electric drill. If you remove the engine and dismantle the block, be very careful with the main and rod bearings. You can check the clearances with Plastigage, and if they're within tolerance, reuse them. Or mike the crank, have the journals polished, and replace the bearings. They're not expensive. If you remove the stuff around the broken bolt, and let it soak in penetrant for a while, you may be able to get a small pipe wrench on what's left. I did that with a broken head stud once upon a time, and it worked well. If the bolt breaks further, well, you're no worse off than you are now. If you take the block to a machine shop, they can get the bolt out pretty easily, and it should not be expensive. I agree with John Sandhoff, this is not just a "clean it up in place and put it back together with a new gasket" situation. That's my dos centavos. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket > www.ranteer.com/misc > > shows the result after pulling the head. > > that bit of bolt is no doubt going to be a bugger! > > my question - obviously the head gasket is trashed. can i put all this > back together with new gaskets, and will i be ok? or am i really in deep, > and how deep? > > what is your recommendation at this point. money is an issue . . . > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 22:24:33 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Oliver" , "'datsun-roadsters: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:24:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket..Repair advice. Oliver, I would be very wary of leaving rust in the gap between the top ring and the top f the piston. I don't know how to be sure the very narrow gap is clean without removing the pistons. In theory, you could loosen the rod bolts and raise the piston slightly, but there is likely a ridge at the top of the cylinder bore which will prevent this. That's why pistons are usually removed from the bottom after the crank is removed. But, it's your motor. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket..Repair advice. > took the head to a machine shop today. he looked at it and said "Datsun?" > a good sign! > > he pointed out a number of places where the gasket had not held, and > tomorrow i'll pick up a freshly resurfaced head. > > i'm going to clean up the block/cylinder walls as best I can. i've > already started the PB Blaster treatments. > > i've started regimens of PB Blaster and heat for that nasty little bolt. > everyone cross your fingers for me!!!!!! > > with a little luck next week i'll be firing it up. > > anyone got a replacement head bolt or two for an early 67 1600 to sell? > that would be SAE, not metric. ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 22:28:30 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Pete Peters" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:28:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinders I'm not a racer, so I don't know how much effect putting the 3/4 wheel cylinders may have on overall brake performance. I.e., will it improve baking overall? Nissan must have had a reason for increasing the size of the rear wheel cylinders with the '67-1/2 cars. I've never found the brakes on my '66 with 11/16 cylinders to be wanting, as long as I stand on them hard enough. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinders > True, but folks have reported replacing the early 11/16 rear wheel > cylinders with the later 3/4 (or 12/16) wheel cylinders without issue. > > If upgrading an early 11/16 to the later 3/4 (12/16) is okay, maybe > upgrading the later 3/4 (12/16) to 13/16 might be okay. I believe 13/16 > were used on 510 and 520, maybe other models. Dunno if they'll fit, > though. > > 15/16 are for the all-drum SPL310 and PL411. > > Pete > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "John F Sandhoff" >> > I have read that the 15/16" rears are usable on the later model cars. >> >> Changing cylinder size will change the balance between front >> and rear brakes, and change the brake pedal travel and force >> required. >> >> -- John >> John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 22:36:52 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:36:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinders I'm guessing it had to do with maintaining the correct bias between front and rear after going from the single reservoir master cylinder (pre-67.5) to two. Kinda haveta do all the math to see the theoretical difference.......but not tonight. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" > I'm not a racer, so I don't know how much effect putting the 3/4 wheel > cylinders may have on overall brake performance. I.e., will it improve > baking overall? Nissan must have had a reason for increasing the size of the > rear wheel cylinders with the '67-1/2 cars. > > I've never found the brakes on my '66 with 11/16 cylinders to be wanting, as > long as I stand on them hard enough. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylinders > > > > True, but folks have reported replacing the early 11/16 rear wheel > > cylinders with the later 3/4 (or 12/16) wheel cylinders without issue. > > > > If upgrading an early 11/16 to the later 3/4 (12/16) is okay, maybe > > upgrading the later 3/4 (12/16) to 13/16 might be okay. I believe 13/16 > > were used on 510 and 520, maybe other models. Dunno if they'll fit, > > though. > > > > 15/16 are for the all-drum SPL310 and PL411. > > > > Pete > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "John F Sandhoff" > >> > I have read that the 15/16" rears are usable on the later model cars. > >> > >> Changing cylinder size will change the balance between front > >> and rear brakes, and change the brake pedal travel and force > >> required. > >> > >> -- John > >> John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > >> ________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > >> > >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 22:42:52 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:42:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun ealry 67 1600 head gasket..Repair advice. Comments from the peanut gallery: Why is there never time to do it right the first time, but always time to do it over and over again? Shortcuts rarely are. Oliver, you've put a lot time into your car. It's a reasonable rebuild at this point. No way to know whether you'll be lucky just slapping the clean head back on or not, but do you want to take that chance? I wouldn't, but, like Gary said, it's your car. Regards. Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 22:58:36 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:57:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine rebuilding (was: datsun ealry 67 1600 head > In theory, you could loosen the rod bolts and raise the piston > slightly, but there is likely a ridge at the top of the cylinder bore > which will prevent this. Ridge reamer! Place the piston at BDC, stuff a clean rag in the bore, use a ridge reamer to shave off the metal ridge at the top. NOTE: this ridge is the diameter that the entire bore USED to be. That it, it is not 'extra' metal; rather, there is metal missing from the majority of the bore. If there's enough ridge to keep from popping the piston out, then the bore likely has enough wear that it needs to be cleaned up by a machine shop - and likely oversized pistons will be called for as well. If you manage to replace the pistons/rings without removing the ridge, you risk breaking the piston rings. ALSO, find out how much metal was removed from the head. If it's been aggressively resurfaced a couple of times, it may start having clearance problems with the domed pistons. BTDT. Last note for now: Your valves have the 'datsun' logo cast into them. If your machinist is anything but a youngster, he would have noticed that right off and identified a Datsun head :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 06:20:49 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: sandhoff@csus.edu, tputland@charter.net Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:20:19 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rear brake cylindars According to the racing stuff I have read changing the cylinder size was used to change the brake bias between the front and rear. The factory bias was designed around stock tires. With race tires and suspension mods you might find that either the front or rear would lock up first. A bigger rear cylinder would add braking force to the back and a smaller one would move force to the front. keith In a message dated 10/23/2008 2:08:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sandhoff@csus.edu writes: > I have read that the 15/16" rears are usable on the later model cars. Changing cylinder size will change the balance between front and rear brakes, and change the brake pedal travel and force required. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics b check it out! 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Also, if anyone has any advice on the best way to go about applying it to the chip I would be interested to heat it. Thanks for the help, Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ When your life is on the gotake your life with you. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298558/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 14:35:21 2008 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "Andrew Murphy" , Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:35:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Touch up paint You can try the paint store in Laguna Niguel. http://ocpaintstore.com/ Give them the paint code and they can mix it up for you. Im not sure of the quantity the'll sell, but they even do rattle cans. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Murphy" To: Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Touch up paint > All, > > Since I recently got the car back on the road, I have of course been > enjoying > some nice drives. However, fate decided to have a say, and I picked up a > pretty good sized chip in the paint right near one of the letters on the > front > of the hood via an errant projectile of some sort. I do have the paint > code, > and I am wondering how hard it would be to get some touch up paint and > what > would be the smallest amount a paint shop would make for me. Also, if > anyone > has any advice on the best way to go about applying it to the chip I would > be > interested to heat it. > > Thanks for the help, > > Andrew Murphy > 1966 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 14:42:55 2008 From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'Andrew Murphy'" , Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:41:59 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Touch up paint http://www.paint-chip-repair.com/html/how-to-fix-paint-chips.html http://www.web-cars.com/detail/touchup.php There are other things you can find--often trying to sell products to do the "fix." Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 17:35:01 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:38:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT:30 Z's on ebay... or on the way to the crusher... Thankfully you don't see a post like this everyday.... HMMM right in the middle of LA http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240Z-71-Crushing-30-Early-Zs-Get-yours-NOW_W0 QQitemZ220300307007QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6187QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 20:13:16 2008 From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Rusty block Has anyone ever tried this method of rust removing? Seems unnecessary to take everything apart....just wash it off when you're done. http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1137265869 Patti ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 21:19:14 2008 From: racery@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (roadster list) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:17:21 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] More 5- speed questions Ok, time to come clean- I'm contemplating transplanting a roadster transmission into a non- Datsun. Now, I freshened one up for my 1600 15 years ago and it's been great ever since- but the BMW 2002's got a bit more torque. The question, mostly for 2L racers, is- will the 5- speed survive in a built track car with a 150hp engine? Thanks, all, Toby ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 05:04:09 2008 From: Tim To: All list , fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 7:03:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rusty block I have used a similar sugar beet based product that works pretty well. It is a messy and potentially nasty process. Nasty as in the stuff comes dry, you add water, and eventually, under warm conditions, this stuff gets a moldy layer on the top surface. You can scrape the mold off or stir it back in, but none the less, it is rather nasty. But it does work pretty well. One example: I took a set of tail light chrome bits that had light surface rust, soaked them in this stuff for a week or so, and they came out (after a thorough rinsing) very very shiny. Add a layer of wax or chrome polish to prevent more rust, and sold them on ebay for a nice chunk of change. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Patti Dwinell wrote: ============= Has anyone ever tried this method of rust removing? Seems unnecessary to take everything apart....just wash it off when you're done. http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1137265869 Patti You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 06:59:17 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:58:49 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rusty block I am on an old engine forum and derusting is a regular topic. Several folks have used this method with good success. A couple of things to remember, it is slow and it is fairly aromatic. Slow as in months and you are fermenting molasses so the smell is strong. Electrolysis is my method of choice. The problem with very rusty engines is that they can be too rusty to get apart without destroying them. Either method will remove enough rust to allow them to be disassembled safely. The benefit over sand blasting or wire brushing is that the good metal is not touched. keith In a message dated 10/24/2008 7:13:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com writes: http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1137265869 **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics b check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 07:27:30 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:22:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rusty block I sent my block to metal rehab. www.metalrehab.com It came out cleaner than new. Their process uses non-hazardous and non-toxic chemicals. This is really a top notch place. They stripped and de-rusted my whole car body, frame, motor, rear axle, aluminum head, wheels, and more. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 08:17:20 2008 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:16:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rusty block What about just using vinegar for derusting? -Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 10:08:43 2008 From: "Andy Cost" To: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:04:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rusty block You can use any acid solution but you have to neutralize it. If you don't neutralize it then it will cause the part to rust worse. I suggest using baking soda and water to rinse off the vineagr, lemon juice, phosphoric acid, etc... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of ljordan704@netscape.net Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:17 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rusty block What about just using vinegar for derusting? -Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 10:39:13 2008 From: racery@comcast.net To: Durf & Sue Hyson , Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:38:47 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More 5- speed questions Oh, that's funny- I've been talking with John for the last 2 years about engines and suspension, and that never came up! He's built his car into something pretty fantastic- not much BMW left in it, it's all racecar now! So it looks like I'm not the first person to think of this, by a long shot... I guess it's time to start welding up the bellhousing adaptor! Thanks for the encouragement, Toby -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Durf & Sue Hyson > I know a guy who has run that combination for years in a SCCA GT-3 2002 > . His name is John Forte . I do not have his current e-mail address but > I will get it and send it to you . He actually used a direct drive box > not an O/D unit but the physicalities are the same . > > Durf > > racery@comcast.net wrote: > > Ok, time to come clean- > > I'm contemplating transplanting a roadster transmission into > > a non- Datsun. Now, I freshened one up for my 1600 15 years ago > > and it's been great ever since- but the BMW 2002's got a bit more torque. > > > > The question, mostly for 2L racers, is- will the 5- speed survive in a built > track car with a 150hp engine? > > > > Thanks, all, > > > > Toby > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as dhyson@charter.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 12:27:40 2008 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Gauges removal later model Gentlemen roadster ownwers, Can later model gauges be removed individually or is it easier to remove the complete dash first? My speedo is really gettin squirrelly and I 'd like to get them refurbished and white faced for a custom look. Thanks, Tom ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 13:37:24 2008 From: John F Sandhoff To: racery@comcast.net Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More 5- speed questions > The question, mostly for 2L racers, is- will the 5- speed survive > in a built track car with a 150hp engine? A Solex-equipped U20 is rated at 150 hp... :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 07:16:22 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:15:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] SoCal local roadster ad compilation Saw these today, some new ones, some familiar ones that have been up for a while. 64 engine unmentioned project, this one showed up over the weekend. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/893549041.html 70 1600, $6500, nice looker but must be into screaming yellow! http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ctd/885355619.html 70 2000, parts or all for $1800 http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/875753081.html '70 1600, $1500, claimed to have a 5spd (I only say that because of how many younger folk are so unused to the term "4speed" that they call all manual trans's a 5-speed) http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/890963221.html another '70 1600, $2850. This owner knows which is a 4 speed and which is a 5 speed.... http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/890621817.html 66 1600, another 5 speed, $5500 A very unusual photo session here, but this is what it would look like if I sat in a low windshield car with a hardtop! http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/ctd/888923400.html 67.5 1600, make offer, with some body mods. "purchased from orig owner"? Hmm, think that is a stretch, as the last owner does "build them as a hobby" but he is not prone to hood louvers or fender vents, at least not in his roadsters. (and it didn't have a "miss" back then) http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/886963866.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 11:27:13 2008 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun List" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:31:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Instrument regulator test My voltage regulator pulses when I did this test, but it's pulsing up to 22VDC. Dunno how it's doing that with a 14.4VDC source. Perhaps the digital multimeter cannot compensate quick enough for the pulses - perhaps not. Does this mean the gauge VR is failing? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John F Sandhoff Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 10:31 PM To: Gary Boone Cc: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Instrument regulator test On Sat, 18 Oct 2008, Gary Boone wrote: > ...I've pulled the regulator out and want to test it before just > finding a new one... How does one bench test this regulator? Connect a voltmeter - or a small (like a dash light) 12 volt bulb to the case and to one of the connectors. Then connect 12 volts (polarity does not matter) to the case and the other terminal. You should see voltage (or the lamp will light) for a few seconds, then it will go out. A few seconds later, the voltage MAY come back on. For these results to be accurate, you must have the voltage indicator connected BEFORE you apply the voltage. If you NEVER see voltage: The regulator is open (i.e. no good). You MAY be able to open it and clean the contacts, but it probably won't last. If the voltage PULSATES (on... off... on... off...) the regulator is GOOD, and you have it wired correctly (the terminal you applied voltage to connects to the 'hot' lead from the ignition switch). If you get voltage ONCE and then it stays off, you have the regulater connected backwards. Disconnect power, Move the indicator to the other connector, apply voltage to the now-available connector and you should see on... off... on... off... Important troubleshooting tip: If your gauges momentarily start to move when you turn on the key and then drop back to zero, and you've been mucking with the wiring, you probably connected the regulator in backwards. If your gauges read way too high, possibly off the scale, the regulator is either bad... OR the ground is bad. Unscrew it, clean the screw, case, and body contact point (small wire brush) and reattach. "next lesson will be on how this simple box acts as a temperature compensator so the temperature-sensitive electric gauges are (relatively) accurate regardless of it being zero degrees or a hundred degrees" (or check the archives :-) ). In other words, you can't just replace it with a constant-voltage regulator. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 13:12:37 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: "Pete Peters" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:11:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Instrument regulator test > My voltage regulator pulses when I did this test, but it's pulsing up to > 22VDC. It's pulsing. That's good. Test done. Sometimes digital isn't better. The odd numbers you're seeing is because the integrator in the digital voltmeter isn't able to correctly ascertain what it's seeing. It expects a steady state, and is expressing its confusion. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 16:01:55 2008 From: "Graeme" To: "'Pete Peters'" , "'Datsun List'" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:31:12 +1030 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Instrument regulator test "My voltage regulator pulses when I did this test, but it's pulsing up to 22VDC. Dunno how it's doing that with a 14.4VDC source. Perhaps the digital multimeter cannot compensate quick enough for the pulses - perhaps not. Does this mean the gauge VR is failing? Pete" You either need to use an ANALOGUE meter or a simple 12V D.C. test lamp to observe the operation. The pulsing is the good news though. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 16:57:19 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: "'Datsun List'" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:56:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Instrument regulator test Although this is for my 411, the instrument voltage regulator is the same for the 311/410/411/510/520/521 and who knows what else. I did short the leads on the roadster and the 411, and the gas and water gauges both peg to the right. Haven't tested the senders yet. As for using analog, my venerable Simpson 260 has been waiting patiently to be repaired for several years now, so will try a light bulb. I might also try using the modern replacement (IC on heatsink) . I believe it provides a steady 8VDC instead of the pulse. It's also cheaper. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Graeme" > "My voltage regulator pulses when I did this test, but it's pulsing up to > 22VDC. Dunno how it's doing that with a 14.4VDC source. Perhaps the digital > multimeter cannot compensate quick enough for the pulses - perhaps not. > > Does this mean the gauge VR is failing? > > Pete" > > You either need to use an ANALOGUE meter or a simple 12V D.C. test lamp to > observe the operation. > The pulsing is the good news though. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 17:15:32 2008 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:14:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Instrument regulator test It was written by another: > I might also try using the modern replacement (IC on heatsink). > I believe it provides a steady 8VDC instead of the pulse. It's also > cheaper. And not as accurate, I fear, unless it's a more complex than a simple voltage regulator chip: > this simple box acts as a temperature compensator so the > temperature-sensitive electric gauges are (relatively) accurate > regardless of it being zero degrees or a hundred degrees" (or > check the archives :-) ). In other words, you can't just replace > it with a constant-voltage regulator. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 15:16:50 2008 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:11:37 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT?: Maybe my "regulator" needs "recalibration" << Sometimes digital isn't better. The odd numbers you're seeing is because the integrator in the digital voltmeter isn't able to correctly ascertain what it's seeing. It expects a steady state, and is expressing its confusion. >> Ya know, for some reason when I read this, I suddenly gained a better understanding of about 50% of the looks that I get from my spouse when I mention anything mechanically interesting to me...... (hot rod, aircraft, marine) "Deep Thoughts" by John Sandhoff, soon to be at a bookseller near you. Now back to our regularly scheduled program. I think I need to drive the roadster to work tomorrow, and stop working long hours on mundane tasks...... Fergus O, 69 2000 Los Alamitos, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 16:57:06 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:56:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT?: Maybe my "regulator" needs "recalibration" It made perfect sense to me....and I get the same strange looks. I return those looks when she starts throwing too many plant names in Latin (Debbie is a Landscape Architect). Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" > << Sometimes digital isn't better. > The odd numbers you're seeing is because the integrator in the digital > voltmeter isn't able to correctly ascertain what it's seeing. > It expects a steady state, and is expressing its confusion. >> > > Ya know, for some reason when I read this, I suddenly gained a better > understanding of about 50% of the looks that I get from my spouse when I > mention anything mechanically interesting to me...... (hot rod, > aircraft, marine) > > "Deep Thoughts" by John Sandhoff, soon to be at a bookseller near you. > > Now back to our regularly scheduled program. I think I need to drive > the roadster to work tomorrow, and stop working long hours on mundane > tasks...... > > Fergus O, 69 2000 > Los Alamitos, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 16:38:14 2008 From: Dana Scribner To: , drone Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:37:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Japanese Nostalgic Car This year at the Boston Japanese Car Day we were given the first issue of Japanese Nostalgic Car magazine. It looked interesting so I signed up for a year subscription (it was short money). It had a history of the skyline & a comparison of 240z & 510's. Issue 2 came the other day. It had a story about a 1600 doing the La Carrera Pamamericana run, a blip about the Datsun Museum and ones about Solvang & Canby. There was lot more stuff about all the Japanese cars. I think a lot of you would enjoy it. I did find out the the first all wheel drive Subarus use a 510 rear end. If you can find it pick it up or go to japanesenostalgiccar. com Dana S. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 19:13:35 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: bluebirds@bluebirds.datsun510.com (Bluebirds);, Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:13:15 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 510 & roadster running the 2008 La Carrera Panamericana Website is in Spanish, so, aside from Enrique, Julie, Lou and a few others, you'll need to run it through a translation site: Lucha Libre Racing in a '67 Datsun roadster has moved from 102 to 59th overall. No problemo, este es uno de Inglis: Official race website: Great 2006 promo video: Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 11:01:48 2008 From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: 'Dana Scribner' , Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:01:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Japanese Nostalgic Car I subscribed to this also. Nice looking magazine. I think it is important to support those that support our sport. On another note, I think I have decided to try to get our car running so as to enjoy it a little. But I have never worked on one of these before. The head is off because the PO said the gasket head leaked. Since it is torn down this much, should I keep going or just get the head machined and put it back together. I also seem to be missing parts. Looks like all I have is the head and the pushrods. I tried to contact the PO but he won't reply back. Is there somewhere I can find a detailed list with pictures to figure out what I am missing? Anyone in the Buena Park, CA area with spare parts or some free time to just look at what I have and let me know what I need to search for? I am also selling a hardtop that came with my car but won't fit. It is for a small windshield Roadster. Thanks for all your help! Take Care, Rich & Kelly 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun02 Member of the SoCal Roadster Owner Club http://higenki.com/socalroc/ Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco Photos from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/2008JapaneseClassicCarShow -----Original Message----- Subject: [Roadsters] Japanese Nostalgic Car This year at the Boston Japanese Car Day we were given the first issue of Japanese Nostalgic Car magazine. It looked interesting so I signed up for a year subscription (it was short money). It had a history of the skyline & a comparison of 240z & 510's. Issue 2 came the other day. It had a story about a 1600 doing the La Carrera Pamamericana run, a blip about the Datsun Museum and ones about Solvang & Canby. There was lot more stuff about all the Japanese cars. I think a lot of you would enjoy it. I did find out the the first all wheel drive Subarus use a 510 rear end. If you can find it pick it up or go to japanesenostalgiccar. com Dana S. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 11:03:15 2008 From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:03:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Japanese Nostalgic Car I subscribed to this also. Nice looking magazine. I think it is important to support those that support our sport. On another note, I think I have decided to try to get our car running so as to enjoy it a little. But I have never worked on one of these before. The head is off because the PO said the gasket head leaked. Since it is torn down this much, should I keep going or just get the head machined and put it back together. I also seem to be missing parts. Looks like all I have is the head and the pushrods. I tried to contact the PO but he won't reply back. Is there somewhere I can find a detailed list with pictures to figure out what I am missing? Anyone in the Buena Park, CA area with spare parts or some free time to just look at what I have and let me know what I need to search for? I am also selling a hardtop that came with my car but won't fit. It is for a small windshield Roadster. Thanks for all your help! Take Care, Rich & Kelly 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/1968Datsun02 Member of the SoCal Roadster Owner Club http://higenki.com/socalroc/ Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco Photos from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich/2008JapaneseClassicCarShow -----Original Message----- Subject: [Roadsters] Japanese Nostalgic Car This year at the Boston Japanese Car Day we were given the first issue of Japanese Nostalgic Car magazine. It looked interesting so I signed up for a year subscription (it was short money). It had a history of the skyline & a comparison of 240z & 510's. Issue 2 came the other day. It had a story about a 1600 doing the La Carrera Pamamericana run, a blip about the Datsun Museum and ones about Solvang & Canby. There was lot more stuff about all the Japanese cars. I think a lot of you would enjoy it. I did find out the the first all wheel drive Subarus use a 510 rear end. If you can find it pick it up or go to japanesenostalgiccar. com Dana S. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 11:19:13 2008 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:20:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] License plate lamp I was installing the rear bumper last night. It looks like there were two wires coming off the harness where the lamp is. One is obvious, since it has the bullet type plug connector. But the other one I am guessing is a ground that I put under the screw (on the bumper) for the license plate lamp. Can anyone verify that this is correct? John SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 15:47:33 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:46:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] License plate lamp Year of car? Color of wires? Did you check the wiring diagrams on 311s.org? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "JohnnyRoadster" > I was installing the rear bumper last night. It looks like there were two > wires coming off the harness where the lamp is. One is obvious, since it has > the bullet type plug connector. But the other one I am guessing is a ground > that I put under the screw (on the bumper) for the license plate lamp. Can > anyone verify that this is correct? > > John > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 16:27:19 2008 From: ppeters914@comcast.net (Pete Peters) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net (Datsun Roadster List) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:26:57 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Parts manuals (was "Re: Japanese Nostalgic Car") Parts manual available on 311s.org in PDF format for download and Lars wonderful online version: Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Schlegel, Richard" [snip] On another note, I think I have decided to try to get our car running so as to enjoy it a little. But I have never worked on one of these before. I also seem to be missing parts. Looks like all I have is the head and the pushrods. Is there somewhere I can find a detailed list with pictures to figure out what I am missing? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 18:09:33 2008 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "JohnnyRoadster" , Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:08:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] License plate lamp John, The wire with the bullet connects to the wire coming from the lamp. The other wire is a ground wire, which should be black, and should have a half-round terminal on the end. Connect it to one of the mounting studs for the lamp. Having said that, depending o your cars ownership history and its condition otherwise (How accurately the the POs maintain the car -- any evidence of gross stupidity?) you might want to check the lead with the bullet for polarity -- should be ~12 volts positive -- before making the connections and assuming the wiring is correct. (SInce there is a bullet connector on one wire, I think it is highly unlikely there will be a problem.) Gary Ault '66 1600/U20 (since 1971) '67-1/2 2000 (new toy) ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] License plate lamp >I was installing the rear bumper last night. It looks like there were two > wires coming off the harness where the lamp is. One is obvious, since it > has > the bullet type plug connector. But the other one I am guessing is a > ground > that I put under the screw (on the bumper) for the license plate lamp. > Can > anyone verify that this is correct? > > John > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 20:25:03 2008 From: Andrew Murphy To: , , Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:24:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Heritage Museum Toy Drive All, Last month, the Datsun Heritage Museum was opened in Murrieta, Ca. which is North and inland of San Diego. This coming November 8th, they are holding a toy drive and inviting all Datsuns 1978 and older to participate. There is no entry fee, you just need to bring an unwrapped toy of 10.00 or more of value. There will be vendors there, and no competition, just friends and cars and giving toys to kids. What could be better? For more information, go to www.datsunheritagemuseum.com I am setting up a run for people that want to meet at the Spectrum in Irvine, CA. at 9:00 AM and then heading down the I-405 to Ortega Hiway and then inland to I-15 and then South to Murrieta. Ortega Hiway is areally fun road with lots of twisties and a bit of a nail biter when you head down to the lake from the hills. It should be really fun. Please contact me off list if you would like to meet us. Once I get the list of people together, I will send out directions and contact information. I hope to see you there! Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns! 20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 21:30:29 2008 From: Steven Burton To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel system problem I'm new to the list (well, belonged to it a few years ago) and I need some help. I've got a 66 SPL that has a fuel problem. both SU carbs have been rebuild, the mechanical pump has been replaced, I've got a new fuel filter and my tank, replaced the seal on the gas cap and lines appear to be clean, however, I'm don't seem to be getting a good supply of fuel to the carbs. I'm also having an issue with vapor lock for the first time since I've owned the car. the car will drive fine for a while then just stall out from lack of fuel or will vapor lock when I shut off the engine. As you can see above, I've gone over everything in the fuel system I can think of with no luck. This all started after doing two projects on the engine. Replacing the distributor and rebuilding the carbs. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 05:26:35 2008 From: Mike Harper To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, pscowboy9@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel system problem Vapor Lock on a 1600 is pretty rare, not impossible, but if your fuel lines are run correctly, I'd doubt it. I would first check my needle valve that feeds into the float chamber to make sure you do not have a piece of trash, or more likely a piece of deteriorating rubber hose, that is intermittently blocking fuel from entering the float chamber. BTDT. Also since you have installed an electric fuel pump (I have found the mechanical pump to be quite adequate, and frankly I prefer it) you need to be sure that it delivers the correct pressure. May require a pressure regulator (just one extra problem with an electric pump in addition to the infernal noise). Finally, if you are still using the glass fuel filter (I think they are pretty neat, and very retro/original) be sure that your gasket is seated and not sucking air. A little grease or petroleum jelly will help. Sounds like you are starving the carbs (or one carb). Good luck in tracing this! Mike Harper '66 1600 Charleston SC --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Steven Burton wrote: > From: Steven Burton > Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel system problem > To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 12:29 AM > I'm new to the list (well, belonged to it a few years > ago) and I need some > help. I've got a 66 SPL that has a fuel problem. both > SU carbs have been > rebuild, the mechanical pump has been replaced, I've > got a new fuel filter and > my tank, replaced the seal on the gas cap and lines appear > to be clean, > however, I'm don't seem to be getting a good supply > of fuel to the carbs. I'm > also having an issue with vapor lock for the first time > since I've owned the > car. > > the car will drive fine for a while then just stall out > from lack of fuel or > will vapor lock when I shut off the engine. As you can see > above, I've gone > over everything in the fuel system I can think of with no > luck. This all > started after doing two projects on the engine. Replacing > the distributor and > rebuilding the carbs. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 06:13:38 2008 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: pscowboy9@yahoo.com, Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:13:03 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel system problem Put a "T" in the fuel line at the carbs and check your pressure. It is supposed to be about 3 psi. The fuel filter gasket not sealing can give you fits. Don't over tighten it. The metal will warp and it will never seal. If the gasket is bad replace it. You can also replace one of the fuel lines to the carb with clear tubing and see if you are getting air in the line. Air would have to come from a leak before the fuel pump. keith In a message dated 10/30/2008 9:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pscowboy9@yahoo.com writes: I'm new to the list (well, belonged to it a few years ago) and I need some help. I've got a 66 SPL that has a fuel problem. both SU carbs have been rebuild, the mechanical pump has been replaced, I've got a new fuel filter and my tank, replaced the seal on the gas cap and lines appear to be clean, however, I'm don't seem to be getting a good supply of fuel to the carbs. I'm also having an issue with vapor lock for the first time since I've owned the car. the car will drive fine for a while then just stall out from lack of fuel or will vapor lock when I shut off the engine. As you can see above, I've gone over everything in the fuel system I can think of with no luck. This all started after doing two projects on the engine. Replacing the distributor and rebuilding the carbs. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Steve You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 06:56:16 2008 From: geegc@aol.com To: roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com, Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:53:24 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel system problem Also make sure the heat shield is in place below the carbs Gary Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harper Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:25:59 To: ; Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel system problem Vapor Lock on a 1600 is pretty rare, not impossible, but if your fuel lines are run correctly, I'd doubt it. I would first check my needle valve that feeds into the float chamber to make sure you do not have a piece of trash, or more likely a piece of deteriorating rubber hose, that is intermittently blocking fuel from entering the float chamber. BTDT. Also since you have installed an electric fuel pump (I have found the mechanical pump to be quite adequate, and frankly I prefer it) you need to be sure that it delivers the correct pressure. May require a pressure regulator (just one extra problem with an electric pump in addition to the infernal noise). Finally, if you are still using the glass fuel filter (I think they are pretty neat, and very retro/original) be sure that your gasket is seated and not sucking air. A little grease or petroleum jelly will help. Sounds like you are starving the carbs (or one carb). Good luck in tracing this! Mike Harper '66 1600 Charleston SC --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Steven Burton wrote: > From: Steven Burton > Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel system problem > To: Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 12:29 AM > I'm new to the list (well, belonged to it a few years > ago) and I need some > help. I've got a 66 SPL that has a fuel problem. both > SU carbs have been > rebuild, the mechanical pump has been replaced, I've > got a new fuel filter and > my tank, replaced the seal on the gas cap and lines appear > to be clean, > however, I'm don't seem to be getting a good supply > of fuel to the carbs. I'm > also having an issue with vapor lock for the first time > since I've owned the > car. > > the car will drive fine for a while then just stall out > from lack of fuel or > will vapor lock when I shut off the engine. As you can see > above, I've gone > over everything in the fuel system I can think of with no > luck. This all > started after doing two projects on the engine. Replacing > the distributor and > rebuilding the carbs. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as geegc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 07:03:31 2008 From: Pat To: pscowboy9@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:03:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel system problem Steve, Welcome back. All the previous replies are good, but I spotted something different in your post. You say you replaced the gasket on your gas cap. By any chance did you change out the gas cap to one from a 69 or 70 car? The earlier gas caps are vented, while the 69 and 70 caps are not. If you did, you would draw a bit of vacuum when you use the fuel. Did you find the fuel filters inside the banjo bolts on each carb? A lot of folks don't know they are there and they never get cleaned. I think the pressure gauge will show you which way to go on this one. Good luck. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Steven Burton: > I'm new to the list (well, belonged to it a few years ago) and I need some > help. I've got a 66 SPL that has a fuel problem. both SU carbs have been > rebuild, the mechanical pump has been replaced, I've got a new fuel filter and > my tank, replaced the seal on the gas cap and lines appear to be clean, > however, I'm don't seem to be getting a good supply of fuel to the carbs. I'm > also having an issue with vapor lock for the first time since I've owned the > car. > > the car will drive fine for a while then just stall out from lack of fuel or > will vapor lock when I shut off the engine. As you can see above, I've gone > over everything in the fuel system I can think of with no luck. This all > started after doing two projects on the engine. Replacing the distributor and > rebuilding the carbs. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1757 - Release Date: 10/30/2008 2:35 PM > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 5026 FM 2001 Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 18:35:38 2008 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:34:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Heritage Museum Eliza is still not well. Anyone need a shotgun?? Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters