From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 06:53:38 2009 From: Eric Hoffman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] spring picnic and drive with the Georgia Triumph www.gatriumph.com calendar section ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 09:04:12 2009 From: Pat Horne To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:04:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues As I recall I needed to change the length of one of the bolts that hold the pump to the block. I have pictures of the difference somewhere, but I can't find them right now. I'll keep looking. Peace, Pat Thusly spake ljordan704@netscape.net, On 3/31/2009 10:07 PM: > I think I read somewhere about the forklift warer pump, but that you might have to change something on it... > I'd find a forklift supply place and bring yours in to get the right part. > Linda > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Peters > To: Datsun Roadster List > Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 8:00 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues > > > > > > > > > > > I just plugged in the following part number from the Online Parts Catalog to > ForkLiftPartsSupply.com > > and found: > > Nissan (Datsun) 21010-78226 PUMP - WATER $39.20 > > Now, there are 16 part numbers listed for 'WATER PUMP W/FAN CLUTCH & GASKET' > (2 SAE, 14 Metric), so I'm not positive which one is correct, but the point > is that it's a much cheaper alternative and it's still Nissan. > > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:10 PM > To: Eric Gillis > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 R16 Water Pump Blues > > Eric, > > Take your pump to a forklift shop and see if they can match the pump to one > on a Nissan forklift with an H20 engine. I did that several years ago and > got an exact match. As I recall it cost me under $50. > > [snip] > You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 11:02:13 2009 From: Jeff Torres To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Keith WIlliams Hey Keith. If yer out there please contact me off list @ jtorres67@wildblue.net Jeff T. Lemoore, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 11:33:50 2009 From: Jeff Torres To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Original paint Color Samples Hey All, Using the "pantone" color chart, does anyone know what color code Sora blue would ber?Or has anyone possibly used this color chart to match up any of the original paint colors for the Roadster? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!!! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 12:57:49 2009 From: Mark Dent To: Jeff Torres Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:58:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Original paint Color Samples Original color chart here: http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1967-datsun-pg01.jpg Mark On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Jeff Torres wrote: > Hey All, > > Using the "pantone" color chart, does anyone know what color code > Sora blue > would ber?Or has anyone possibly used this color chart to match up > any of the > original paint colors for the Roadster? Any info would be appreciated. > Thanks!!! > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark@dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 13:22:27 2009 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) hi everyone is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some spacers to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to the edge of the fender. any thoughts? thanks in advance steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 14:48:18 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: steven boortz Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:48:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) You can buy spacers that have studs in them. Usually they are for adapting one bolt pattern to another but they also come with the same bolt pattern. It shouldn't be hard to find them on ebay 114.3 to 114.3 1" thick wheel adaptors. It is a pain to install studs as long as you are asking for in the rear because the brake backing plate is in the way. You have to drill a hole in the backing plate to slide the stud through or you have to remove the collar, bearing, and backing plate. It would be easier to either buy new wheels with the correct offset or buy the adaptors. I have been using the adaptors on a 3000 pound mustang autocross car with 11" slicks for two years with no problems. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven boortz" To: "roadsters" Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:23:16 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) hi everyone is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some spacers to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to the edge of the fender. any thoughts? thanks in advance steve 675MIZU You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 17:37:18 2009 From: "Dewey Hahlbohm" To: "steven boortz" , "roadsters" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:38:04 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) Steven, check "Wheel Components" online. I think I bought my spacers from them. I used 1/8" spacers to get the inside edge of the tire away from the frame. This put the 205/55/14 tires right up against the outside fender. 2" is a lot, good luck. Dewey > [Original Message] > From: steven boortz > To: roadsters > Date: 4/1/2009 1:23:16 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) > > hi everyone > is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some spacers to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to the edge of the fender. any thoughts? > thanks in advance > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 18:26:51 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:27:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? Some one clarify this for me please.... Ebay item 260384255426. Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these were used? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 18:31:28 2009 From: Mark Dent To: Tim Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:32:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? 320 truck hubcaps, all years. 62-65 On Apr 1, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Tim wrote: > 260384255426 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 21:04:16 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:05:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Arcata 2009 All Datsun Driving Weekend Info >From the Bluebirds list..... _____ From: bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Derek Garnier Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:13 PM To: 'Bluebirds datsun' Subject: Arcata 2009 All Datsun Driving Weekend Info Check out http://datsun510.com/ for a listing of all the info needed for the weekend. I'll be adding to this page as another 510 nut has stepped up to lead the caravan from Portland to Arcata. You've got almost 5 months' notice to get your cars road worthy. If you like to drive your Datsun in the most beautiful canyon, coastal, mountain, and forest surroundings, this is definitely for you. You'll know if you are really going once you make your hotel reservations. At that point, feel free to drop me a note and let me know. Also, as this is open to all Datsuns (40% of last year was Z cars), feel free to post this information to other Datsun groups. Thanks, Derek the Bluebirds list admin ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 21:06:11 2009 From: Tom Duffy To: Tim Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:06:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to believe mine aren't the original ones. Tom. Tim wrote: > Some one clarify this for me please.... > > Ebay item 260384255426. > > Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these were used? > > Thanks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 22:23:23 2009 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: tomuo@comcast.net, tputland@charter.net Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:23:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? These caps?were also found on 520, 521 and 620 trucks.? They are definitely truck caps and NOT original to Roadsters. John Over www.wycroc.org -----Original Message----- From: Tom Duffy To: Tim Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 9:06 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to believe mine? aren't the original ones.? ? Tom.? ? Tim wrote:? > Some one clarify this for me please....? >? > Ebay item 260384255426. >? > Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these were used? >? > Thanks? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 22:28:34 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Tom Duffy" , "Tim" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:29:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? Tom, Sorry, but these look a lot like the hub caps I bought ~25 years ago to replace my originals. I understood at the time that they were from a similar vintage truck, but they weren't dinged up like one of my originals, so I used them until I put Panasports on the car. (I still have the originals.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Duffy" To: "Tim" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? > These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to > believe mine > aren't the original ones. > > Tom. > > Tim wrote: >> Some one clarify this for me please.... >> >> Ebay item 260384255426. >> Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used on >> Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these were >> used? >> Thanks > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 22:35:20 2009 From: Gary McCormick To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:35:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? I saved the hubcaps off of my PL521 truck (1970) before it was hauled to the wrecking yard 15 years ago because they were exactly the same as the hubcaps on my SRL311 Roadster. I have never checked part numbers or anything, but they look the same and they fit the same. I even have three brand new ones in still in the box. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Tom, > > Sorry, but these look a lot like the hub caps I bought ~25 years ago > to replace my originals. I understood at the time that they were from > a similar vintage truck, but they weren't dinged up like one of my > originals, so I used them until I put Panasports on the car. > > (I still have the originals.) > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Duffy" > To: "Tim" > Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? > > >> These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason >> to believe mine >> aren't the original ones. >> >> Tom. >> >> Tim wrote: >>> Some one clarify this for me please.... >>> >>> Ebay item 260384255426. >>> Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these >>> used on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years >>> these were used? >>> Thanks >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 22:45:05 2009 From: Tom Duffy To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:45:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? Darn, there is so much else original on this roadster, it seemed inconceivable that they weren't original. California Black plates are the bit I'm most proud of. 1970s Frantz/ /"toilet roll" secondary oil filter is the thing I'm least proud of (removed now) Is this a Roadster with original caps? http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/post-your-photos/26136-all-classic-japanese-car-bike-show.html Is there documentation anywhere that proves that all years only came with the style in the photo? Tom. Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Tom, > > Sorry, but these look a lot like the hub caps I bought ~25 years ago > to replace my originals. I understood at the time that they were from > a similar vintage truck, but they weren't dinged up like one of my > originals, so I used them until I put Panasports on the car. > > (I still have the originals.) > > Gary ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 1 22:48:41 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Gary McCormick" , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:49:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? Gary, I put the truck caps alongside my originals, and the differences, though minor, are clear. Since I bought my car in 1971 from the original owner, I am pretty confident that the caps on it were original. And, I know what I bought as a replacement were from a truck, because the seller said so at the time. (He could have gotten much more money for originals.) Gary A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? >I saved the hubcaps off of my PL521 truck (1970) before it was hauled to >the wrecking yard 15 years ago because they were exactly the same as the >hubcaps on my SRL311 Roadster. I have never checked part numbers or >anything, but they look the same and they fit the same. > > I even have three brand new ones in still in the box. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: >> Tom, >> >> Sorry, but these look a lot like the hub caps I bought ~25 years ago to >> replace my originals. I understood at the time that they were from a >> similar vintage truck, but they weren't dinged up like one of my >> originals, so I used them until I put Panasports on the car. >> >> (I still have the originals.) >> >> Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Duffy" >> To: "Tim" >> Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? >> >> >>> These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to >>> believe mine >>> aren't the original ones. >>> >>> Tom. >>> >>> Tim wrote: >>>> Some one clarify this for me please.... >>>> >>>> Ebay item 260384255426. >>>> Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used >>>> on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these >>>> were used? >>>> Thanks >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 2 00:44:01 2009 From: "Peter Harrison" To: "datsun" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:44:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need sway bar retainer Hi Quick request - going to have most of front suspension blasted and powder coated on tuesday - just need the u-bracket that holds the sway bar - any one have one that they can quickly get to me - one of mine has too mch road/kurb rash thx peter eliza currently no va - but working on the va ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 2 07:00:56 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: tomuo@comcast.net, tputland@charter.net Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:01:18 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aren't these early truck hubcaps? Nobody has mentioned what the difference is, so here it is. The center area about two inches across on the roadster cap is raised. On the truck cap it is flat. Other than that they are the same. keith In a message dated 4/1/2009 8:07:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tomuo@comcast.net writes: These look exactly like the ones on my '68 Roadster, I have no reason to believe mine aren't the original ones. Tom. Tim wrote: > Some one clarify this for me please.... > > Ebay item 260384255426. > > Has this style ever been "stock" on a Roadster? Or weren't these used on Datsun trucks? And either way, can someone tell me the years these were used? > > Thanks You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************New Low Prices on Dell Laptops b Starting at $399 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433304x1201394525/aol?redir=http :%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B213540718%3B35046385%3Be) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 2 09:29:29 2009 From: Mike Faggart To: steven boortz Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:29:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) try our vendors like CDM or any race product company. mike faggart On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:23 PM, steven boortz wrote: > hi everyone > is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some spacers > to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to the > edge of the fender. any thoughts? > thanks in advance > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikefaggart@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Mike Faggart ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 2 10:04:17 2009 From: turbored To: Mike Faggart Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:04:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) H&R makes a set too. On Apr 2, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Mike Faggart wrote: > try our vendors like CDM or any race product company. > > mike faggart > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:23 PM, steven boortz > wrote: > >> hi everyone >> is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some >> spacers >> to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the >> tires to the >> edge of the fender. any thoughts? >> thanks in advance >> steve >> 675MIZU >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as mikefaggart@gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > > > > -- > Mike Faggart > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 2 10:34:16 2009 From: "robert k. smith" To: , roadster list Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:35:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) hi steve, i have used up to 3/4" spacers(on each side) and long tube nuts. the tube nut goes inside the spacer. be careful the tube nut doesnt go thru the wheel and spacer and bottom out before getting tight. ive autocrossed my roadster for years like that, and have stock studs, with no stud failure, so far. good luck, bob smith, ohio. > Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:23:16 -0700 > From: vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) > > hi everyone > is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some spacers to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to the edge of the fender. any thoughts? > thanks in advance > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes1_042009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 2 22:06:58 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'O'Farrell, Fergus P \(AS\)'" , Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:07:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums I finally heard back from my friend, who had been on vacation. It was ammonia. It worked great for me. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:43 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums Gordon wrote: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get it unstuck. Then a friend suggested ...pouring some liquid between the drum and backing plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle straight down on the studs popped the drum right off. Unfortunately I can't remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was ammonia, but I'm not sure. I suspect it was vinegar (aka: acetic acid), ya know, the same thing used to un-gunk the built up minerals in your coffee maker, and showerhead. I shy away from all chemical-speak (got thru chem class, but swore I'd never re-visit that subject), but the oxidation of aluminum/steel dissimilar metals mix has me betting it was that. Along those lines, that CLR (calcium, lime, rust) cleaner product may be one to try, although Andy's suggestion of really good alignment and a BFH has a lot of merit as well. Fergus O 69 2000 (made a plaster splash of the Ford emblem on my kluge grille, buying casting resin today, so hopefully will have another "unique detail" soon) Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 03:37:53 2009 From: "BRAD MORROW" To: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:38:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets Anyone have step-by-step instructions on how to adjust tappets on an SPL311 roadster? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 05:38:28 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:38:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums Hi all, that was a great string of messages - everything from brute force exercises, to science experiments. I finally sprung them loose with a week of marinating in Kroil (great stuff) and a heavy hammer and chisel on the inside of the drum. They were well cemented to the hub. If you're curious, the last 4 pix in the album show the results: http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterBlack# Thanks all. -bill On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Gordon Glasgow wrote: > I finally heard back from my friend, who had been on vacation. It was > ammonia. It worked great for me. > > Gordon Glasgow > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of O'Farrell, > Fergus P (AS) > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:43 AM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums > > Gordon wrote: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums > I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get it unstuck. Then > a friend suggested ...pouring some liquid between the drum and backing > plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle straight > down on the studs popped the drum right off. Unfortunately I can't > remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was ammonia, but I'm > not sure. > > I suspect it was vinegar (aka: acetic acid), ya know, the same thing > used to un-gunk the built up minerals in your coffee maker, and > showerhead. I shy away from all chemical-speak (got thru chem class, > but swore I'd never re-visit that subject), but the oxidation of > aluminum/steel dissimilar metals mix has me betting it was that. > > Along those lines, that CLR (calcium, lime, rust) cleaner product may be > one to try, although Andy's suggestion of really good alignment and a > BFH has a lot of merit as well. > > Fergus O > 69 2000 (made a plaster splash of the Ford emblem on my kluge grille, > buying casting resin today, so hopefully will have another "unique > detail" soon) > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 07:15:34 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: datsun-roadsters Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums After seeing the studded tires the rust makes sense. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Oakes" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 6:38:59 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums Hi all, that was a great string of messages - everything from brute force exercises, to science experiments. I finally sprung them loose with a week of marinating in Kroil (great stuff) and a heavy hammer and chisel on the inside of the drum. They were well cemented to the hub. If you're curious, the last 4 pix in the album show the results: http://picasaweb.google.com/boakes/RoadsterBlack# Thanks all. -bill On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Gordon Glasgow wrote: > I finally heard back from my friend, who had been on vacation. It was > ammonia. It worked great for me. > > Gordon Glasgow > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of O'Farrell, > Fergus P (AS) > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:43 AM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums > > Gordon wrote: Re: [Roadsters] stuck drums > I ran into this a number of years ago and couldn't get it unstuck. Then > a friend suggested ...pouring some liquid between the drum and backing > plate. After marinating for a day or two, smacking the axle straight > down on the studs popped the drum right off. Unfortunately I can't > remember what the liquid was. I keep thinking it was ammonia, but I'm > not sure. > > I suspect it was vinegar (aka: acetic acid), ya know, the same thing > used to un-gunk the built up minerals in your coffee maker, and > showerhead. I shy away from all chemical-speak (got thru chem class, > but swore I'd never re-visit that subject), but the oxidation of > aluminum/steel dissimilar metals mix has me betting it was that. > > Along those lines, that CLR (calcium, lime, rust) cleaner product may be > one to try, although Andy's suggestion of really good alignment and a > BFH has a lot of merit as well. > > Fergus O > 69 2000 (made a plaster splash of the Ford emblem on my kluge grille, > buying casting resin today, so hopefully will have another "unique > detail" soon) > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 18:15:08 2009 From: "Bubba" To: "robert k. smith" , Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:08:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) I know spacers is an easy way to slightly adjust wheel spacing, if you are also replacing rims when you are doing this, it makes more sense to me to get rims with a more positive offset. Then you don't need the spacers or in most cases, longer studs. I could go on to explain wheel offset, but it's already been written and posted so here's a link. http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972-510 Daisy 1972-510 Spare Change ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert k. smith" To: ; "roadster list" Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) > hi steve, i have used up to 3/4" spacers(on each side) > > and long tube nuts. the tube nut goes inside the spacer. be careful the > tube > nut doesnt go thru the > > wheel and spacer and bottom out before getting tight. > > ive autocrossed my roadster for years like that, and > > have stock studs, with no stud failure, so far. > > good luck, bob smith, ohio. > >> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:23:16 -0700 >> From: vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com >> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) >> >> hi everyone >> is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some >> spacers > to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the tires to > the > edge of the fender. any thoughts? >> thanks in advance >> steve >> 675MIZU >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda > tes1_042009 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 18:26:31 2009 From: turbored To: Bubba Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:27:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) Bob All things equal, It's more negative offset to push the wheels further out. drew On Apr 3, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Bubba wrote: > I know spacers is an easy way to slightly adjust wheel spacing, if > you are also replacing rims when you are doing this, it makes more > sense to me to get rims with a more positive offset. Then you don't > need the spacers or in most cases, longer studs. > > I could go on to explain wheel offset, but it's already been written > and posted so here's a link. > > http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp > > Bob Winslade > 1966-1600 Missy > 1967-1600 Bender > 1972-510 Daisy > 1972-510 Spare Change > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert k. smith" > > To: ; "roadster list" > > Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) > > >> hi steve, i have used up to 3/4" spacers(on each side) >> >> and long tube nuts. the tube nut goes inside the spacer. be >> careful the tube >> nut doesnt go thru the >> >> wheel and spacer and bottom out before getting tight. >> >> ive autocrossed my roadster for years like that, and >> >> have stock studs, with no stud failure, so far. >> >> good luck, bob smith, ohio. >> >>> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:23:16 -0700 >>> From: vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com >>> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >>> Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) >>> >>> hi everyone >>> is there a source for longer wheel studs? i would like to add some >>> spacers >> to the rear, to increase the track about 2 inches, and push the >> tires to the >> edge of the fender. any thoughts? >>> thanks in advance >>> steve >>> 675MIZU >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. >> http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda >> tes1_042009 >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 18:52:51 2009 From: vulforge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:36:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bits Due to someone backing into my car in my parking lot, I will be re-doing parts of the exterior.? 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Try it now. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 19:40:08 2009 From: steven boortz To: BRAD MORROW , roadsters Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tappets hi brad i just did this on mine. follow "the rule of 9." you want to adjust the valve (it's called) that is fully closed. to determine which is fully closed, the rule applies as follows: rotate the crank (best done by hand with a 1.125 inch socket on the big nut on the end of the crank, with spark plugs out) until the first valve (the one furthest to the front) is fully open. you'll know it is fully open when the pushrod reaches its zenith, or highest point. when that happens to the number 1 valve, then the number 8 is fully closed (1 + 8 = 9). you'll need a flat screwdriver, and a 14 mm box wrench. place the screwdriver in the slot atop the pushrod, and back off the nut. the rocker should move freely. then slide a feeler guage (.017 in.) between the top of the valve and the rocker, and snug down the slotted thingie atop the pushrod. once snug, tighten it in place with the 14 mm nut. then just repeat the process for the rest of the valves. so next you will bring the 2nd valve fully open. at that point, the number 7 valve should be fully closed (2 + 7 = 9), so adjust it as you did the 8th. and so on. does that make sense? did i get it right, the rest of you? steve 675MIZU ________________________________ From: BRAD MORROW To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 2:38:13 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets Anyone have step-by-step instructions on how to adjust tappets on an SPL311 roadster? You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 20:12:24 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 19:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tappets The TechWiki on 311s.org. Go to the Engine section, then scroll down and you'll find two methods for adjusting the valves. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "BRAD MORROW" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 2:38:13 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets Anyone have step-by-step instructions on how to adjust tappets on an SPL311 roadster? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 20:33:55 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:34:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tappets From 311 site, this is method #2 which I found easier than trying to figure out when valve was closed etc "With 1/2" ratchet and a large socket put the engine on top dead center dizzy rotor pointing to #1 spark plug wire cap position, and adjust #1 rockers, then rotate the crank 180 degrees and check both rockers on # 3(rotor will be pointing to #3 cap position) then rotate again 180 degrees which is to the timing mark and adjust # 4 rockers then 180 and adjust #2 rockers. It usually takes 3-4 tries to get them good enough to quiet down. Rotor on dizzy will be pointing to 1 3 4 2 as you rotate which is the firing order. Valves are closed when adjusting via this method." -----Original Message----- From: BRAD MORROW To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 2:38 am Subject: [Roadsters] Tappets Anyone have step-by-step instructions on how to adjust tappets on an SPL311 roadster? You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 21:21:18 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Bubba'" , "'robert k. smith'" Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:18:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) That's true as long as you can find a wheel you like with the right offset. The problem these days is that the vast majority of wheels are being made with offsets for front-drive cars, which is much more positive than what roadsters want. Hence the need for spacers. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bubba Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:09 PM To: robert k. smith; vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com; roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) I know spacers is an easy way to slightly adjust wheel spacing, if you are also replacing rims when you are doing this, it makes more sense to me to get rims with a more positive offset. Then you don't need the spacers or in most cases, longer studs. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 23:40:02 2009 From: "Owen" To: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:40:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF Wanted: Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF #22680-52F01 anyone have one for sale or know where I can get one? I've have seen a couple of #22680-52F00 for sale, will these work with this motor? Thanks, Owen. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 4 06:31:08 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Owen" , Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:24:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF I think the S14 240sx with the KA24DE used the same MAF as the S14 SR20DE. I switched over to a P60 from an Infinity Q45 which required some computer modifications. I think you can get an SAFC and then install any MAF that you want. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Owen Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 12:41 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF Wanted: Siliva SR20DE S14 MAF #22680-52F01 anyone have one for sale or know where I can get one? I've have seen a couple of #22680-52F00 for sale, will these work with this motor? Thanks, Owen. You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 4 11:54:43 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:55:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors I have read that the minimum thickness is .331 in. The two rotors I am working with are .39 in thick. I do not know how much material is removed when a rotor is turned. Is there enough material left to have these turned? Or do I need to get different rotors? TIA Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 4 12:51:28 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:52:17 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Burnout Now that the new 4-link is in with the LSD I'm enjoying it :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL0mDolAOJw There is so much traction now I think I can shave a few tenths of the 1/4! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2049898890103926530FFHuel Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobi le1_042009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 4 18:38:19 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:40:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors >From the 311s.org TechWiki: "New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325", so .39 is in the middle. Did a quick search (Google is your friend), and found: "As a rule, the depth of a finish cut should be .002 to .008 inch. If the rotor is in bad shape, multiple cuts should be used: one or more rough cuts followed by a shallow final cut." So, you'd still have .38 even if .01 inch was removed. Do they need to be turned? I've seen quite a few "turn 'em/don't don't em" comments. More searching found: "In TSB No. 00-05-22-002, GM states: "Brake rotors should only be turned when one of the following rotor surface conditions exist: severe scoring with depth in excess of 1.5mm or 0.060 inch, pulsation from excessive lateral nmout of more than 0.080mm or 0.003 inch, thickness variation in excess of 0.025mm or 0.001 inch or excessive corrosion on rotor braking surfaces. Rotors are not to be resurfaced in an attempt to correct the following conditions: noise/squeal, cosmetic corrosion, routine pad replacement or discoloration/hard spots." GM says resurfacing is "ineffective at correcting brake squeal and/or premature lining wear and should not he used to address these conditions-unless specifically directed to do so in a service bulletin." Love this comment; "I personally don't bother with machining rotors...waste of time when new rotors only cost $20... " Obviously, that guy doesn't own a roadster. Pete "mine were below .32, so easy decision -- bought new ones." -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:55 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Rotors I have read that the minimum thickness is .331 in. The two rotors I am working with are .39 in thick. I do not know how much material is removed when a rotor is turned. Is there enough material left to have these turned? Or do I need to get different rotors? TIA Tim Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 4 19:07:25 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:06:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Welding Fifth Gear Anyone out there know how one should weld the two pieces of 5th gear in a 2000 transmission? I checked 311s.org, found a few questions but no answers/nothing in pmwiki. Maybe I missed something, but, if it's there, I didn't find it. I am having a 5-speed rebuilt by a local shop, which is very capable, but they have no experience with the "5th gear neutral" issue with roadster 5-speed transmissions. I'd like to give them some guidance. Gary 1966 1600/U20 1967 2000 Solex ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 4 19:07:35 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 21:06:20 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for Atlanta roadster owner Hello all, Last year when I went to Road Atlanta I met up with one of the roadster folks and shipped my cameras to his business. I would like to discuss some computer stuff with him but am drawing a blank as to his name and email address. So, I'll just fess up to suffering from CRS (can't remember stuff) and ask for assistance. Anyway, drop me a note. keith williams **************Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220239440x1201335902/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.taxact.com%2F08tax.asp%3Fsc%3D084102950001%26p%3D82) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 5 07:09:06 2009 From: "Lars Tungen" To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" , Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:09:08 +0200 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Welding Fifth Gear There's a useful thread on 311's on this topic. If you read the posts you will see that some disagree on that the weld is necessary. http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7486 -- Lars Tungen Norway ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 5 18:21:44 2009 From: "Matthew Smith" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:58:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Mid Tennessee Nissan Car Day Hi All. At Lowes this morning, I met a gentleman who works at the Nissan Headquarters in Franklin TN. He invited me to join Nissan on 04/18/09 in front of the Nissan America Headquarters at approx 9 AM for an event they are having. It's a "Z" fest / Employee car show. All are welcome to attend. He mentioned that there should be a few roadsters there, including mine. If you're in the area, please show up!! I'll take pictures and post them afterward for those who can't attend. Matt Smith - SEROC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 00:41:01 2009 From: Phyllis Almazan To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:41:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Personal invitation from Phyllis Almazan Personal invitation from Phyllis Almazan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 06:08:51 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 4:09:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one. Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find it in my inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this unit is pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 06:25:32 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 06:18:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation Soak the joint in penetrating oil. Remove the bolts. Build a steel or wooden frame that allows you to set the rotor on it but the hub fits through the center. Cut a piece of 2x4 that is big enough to fit over the inner hub but is not so bit that it hits the rotor. Use a 10 pound rotor separating tool vigorously until the two come apart. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:09 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one. Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find it in my inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this unit is pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 06:31:02 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 06:31:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation Soaking is key, and I had great luck on my stuck drums with Kroil. I bought a gallon a couple years ago and have used it on many stuck parts. On Apr 6, 2009, at 6:18 AM, "Andy Cost" wrote: > Soak the joint in penetrating oil. Remove the bolts. Build a steel > or > wooden frame that allows you to set the rotor on it but the hub fits > through > the center. Cut a piece of 2x4 that is big enough to fit over the > inner hub > but is not so bit that it hits the rotor. Use a 10 pound rotor > separating > tool vigorously until the two come apart. > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:09 AM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation > > > I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one. > > Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find > it in my > inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this > unit is > pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first. > > Thanks > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 07:15:43 2009 From: Eric Hoffman To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, smit7703@bellsouth.net Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to Alpharetta, GA. The truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. Any suggestions? Eric Hoffman Alpharetta, GA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 08:44:45 2009 From: Tim To: Eric Hoffman , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 6:45:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA to WI. It was pricey but worth it--covered transport the whole way. My dad was impressed with the professionalism of the husband and wife team that picked up the car on his end. And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally professional. I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers might be unscrupulous and that some drivers try to get more money out of the people involved to unload the car at its destination. I have not experienced this but have heard it from more than one person. At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate trailer and haul it yourself. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Eric Hoffman wrote: ============= Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to Alpharetta, GA. The truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. Any suggestions? Eric Hoffman Alpharetta, GA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 09:02:21 2009 From: tim fisher To: Eric Hoffman , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia Hey Tim, I'd be interested in how much they charged. Probably was some bonding or insurance coverage. Was there a per mile charge or was it a flat rate. Been kicking around doing some hotshot stuff or car hauling.... Thanks, Tim --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia > To: "Eric Hoffman" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:45 AM > I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA > to WI. It was pricey but worth it--covered transport the > whole way. My dad was impressed with the professionalism of > the husband and wife team that picked up the car on his end. > And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally > professional. > > I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers > might be unscrupulous and that some drivers try to get more > money out of the people involved to unload the car at its > destination. I have not experienced this but have heard it > from more than one person. > > At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate > trailer and haul it yourself. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Eric Hoffman wrote: > > ============= > Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to > Alpharetta, GA. The > truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. Any > suggestions? > > Eric Hoffman > Alpharetta, GA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as timbob_fisher@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 09:08:34 2009 From: tim fisher To: Eric Hoffman , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia Hey Tim, I'd be interested in how much they charged. Probably was some bonding or insurance coverage. Was there a per mile charge or was it a flat rate. Been kicking around doing some hotshot stuff or car hauling.... Thanks, Tim --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia > To: "Eric Hoffman" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:45 AM > I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA > to WI. It was pricey but worth it--covered transport the > whole way. My dad was impressed with the professionalism of > the husband and wife team that picked up the car on his end. > And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally > professional. > > I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers > might be unscrupulous and that some drivers try to get more > money out of the people involved to unload the car at its > destination. I have not experienced this but have heard it > from more than one person. > > At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate > trailer and haul it yourself. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Eric Hoffman wrote: > > ============= > Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to > Alpharetta, GA. The > truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. Any > suggestions? > > Eric Hoffman > Alpharetta, GA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as timbob_fisher@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 09:32:12 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:32:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia Check with a local car dealer, especially if you are friends with someone at the dealership. Last year the son of a friend of mine in Gainesville was being deployed from Ft. Hood to Iraq. He didn't find out until the last minute that the Army wouldn't pay to ship his Jeep back Daytona Beach. Another friend of mine and his Dad own a dealership in Killeen so I called him. He said they ship cars all the time and gave me the name and number of his guy who handled that sort of thing. I gave my Florida buddy the guy's name and number then kept the Jeep until they were ready to ship it. I have no idea what it cost, but I know my friend in Gainesville was happy with the whole deal. I'll be talking with him later and will ask what it cost him. Ron On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Tim wrote: > I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA to WI. It was pricey but worth it--covered transport the whole way. My dad was impressed with the professionalism of the husband and wife team that picked up the car on his end. And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally professional. > > I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers might be unscrupulous and that some drivers try to get more money out of the people involved to unload the car at its destination. I have not experienced this but have heard it from more than one person. > > At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate trailer and haul it yourself. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Eric Hoffman wrote: > > ============= > Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to Alpharetta, GA. B The > truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. B Any suggestions? > > Eric Hoffman > Alpharetta, GA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net B http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ronnie.day@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Ron -- Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 10:54:10 2009 From: "Matthew Smith" To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:54:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation Tim, My local Goodyear Dealer separated both front rotors for $5 each when I had the rotors turned there. My $.02. Matt Smith -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:09 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one. Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find it in my inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this unit is pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as whamba@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 11:56:50 2009 From: aybreeze@comcast.net To: "Datsun 2000, datsun-roadsters" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia The phone number for Hard Times Transport Is 270-227-2435 I have used themB five or six times To west palm beach Florida Keep smiling B B B B Arthur ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Eric Hoffman" To: aybreeze@comcast.net Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 9:21:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia Hey thank you Arthur. Eric --- On Mon, 4/6/09, aybreeze@comcast.net wrote: From: aybreeze@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia To: "Eric Hoffman" Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:09 AM For Reliability & door to doorB service always used Hard Times TransportB B He travels Texas to Miami once a weekB I will try to find number when I get home Keep smiling B B B B Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Hoffman" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, smit7703@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 8:15:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to Alpharetta, GA. B The truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. B Any suggestions? B Eric Hoffman Alpharetta, GA Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 12:19:39 2009 From: Tim To: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:20:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? Ross Mullen / Sports Imports wrote: minimum thickness is .370 Ross sports imports .37 Really? I pulled that .331 measurment right out of one of the manuals my dad gave me with the car. The rotors I am considering using are (.39 to .40) came out of a relatively low mileage car--under 70,000 miles. What does a rotor measure new? Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 12:32:08 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:32:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: studded tires... Wow, look at that muffler. That car has been sitting outside for a very long time. The under side of Bills new part car is rustier than one of my part cars. And my car had rice paper thin sheet metal in the foot well AND A-pillars. How are the A-pillars on that car Bill? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 12:58:22 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: Tim Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:59:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] studded tires... it really is an interesting little 4-wheeled-science project. I decided to scrub it down a little once I got the rear end back together, or at least blow off some of the loose stuff and clean it up. I noticed there were a bunch spider web trails going down to the cement floor of the garage, from the car and thought that was odd, i've never seen anything like that on the red car that has at there for 2 years now. Then I realized, those were escape trails for spiders who made it home for the last few years outside. Kind of freaked out my wife, but it's a detached garage, no harm. Fired up the air compressor with a long wand and blew out a couple shovels full of loose rust, dirt and even some home insulation that I'm sure the mice used to build a nest at some point. Bottom line is that there is bad rust damage on the bottom of the door sills and rear fenders where I'm sure dirt was sitting for years, collecting moisture and not draining. From that point up the car is solid, even the floor pans, it's kind of amazing. I'm sure there are some surprised to be found once I really get it into pieces, but need my "model" in one piece for now. I did scrub down as much surface rust I could get to on the frame and pans with a wire brush. I'll keep doing that as much as time allows to keep the damage from continuing. But, for now, it's in a nice dry place. fun stuff. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tim wrote: > Wow, look at that muffler. That car has been sitting outside for a very > long > time. The under side of Bills new part car is rustier than one of my part > cars. > And my car had rice paper thin sheet metal in the foot well AND A-pillars. > > How are the A-pillars on that car Bill? > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 13:00:35 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:01:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering Column Issues Hi all, So I'm switching out my OLD death spear for a newer collapsable steering column. I'd like to converse with anyone who's already done this. IF you could email me off list, it would be greatly appreciated... Thanks. Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 13:02:57 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:03:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Kwik Wire Rewiring job... So my car is just a few steps away from living again... Now I'm doing the wiring. Anyone dealt with the "kwik wire" set up? I'm not all that impressed with it, especially for what I paid for the darn thing! Missing wires, no schematic, company claims they don't have a schematic for the unit! (which I then asked "how do your builders make them if they don't have a blueprint to follow?" They've not answered yet! Anyone else use this wiring system? Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 13:32:23 2009 From: Gary McCormick To: Tim , boakes@gmail.com Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] studded tires... First thing I thought when I saw the pics was - road salt. Makes my skin crawl just thinking about it. Gary McCormick San Jose --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Bill Oakes wrote: From: Bill Oakes Subject: Re: [Roadsters] studded tires... To: "Tim" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 10:59 AM it really is an interesting little 4-wheeled-science project. I decided to scrub it down a little once I got the rear end back together, or at least blow off some of the loose stuff and clean it up. I noticed there were a bunch spider web trails going down to the cement floor of the garage, from the car and thought that was odd, i've never seen anything like that on the red car that has at there for 2 years now. Then I realized, those were escape trails for spiders who made it home for the last few years outside. Kind of freaked out my wife, but it's a detached garage, no harm. Fired up the air compressor with a long wand and blew out a couple shovels full of loose rust, dirt and even some home insulation that I'm sure the mice used to build a nest at some point. Bottom line is that there is bad rust damage on the bottom of the door sills and rear fenders where I'm sure dirt was sitting for years, collecting moisture and not draining. From that point up the car is solid, even the floor pans, it's kind of amazing. I'm sure there are some surprised to be found once I really get it into pieces, but need my "model" in one piece for now. I did scrub down as much surface rust I could get to on the frame and pans with a wire brush. I'll keep doing that as much as time allows to keep the damage from continuing. But, for now, it's in a nice dry place. fun stuff. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tim wrote: > Wow, look at that muffler. That car has been sitting outside for a very > long > time. The under side of Bills new part car is rustier than one of my part > cars. > And my car had rice paper thin sheet metal in the foot well AND A-pillars. > > How are the A-pillars on that car Bill? > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 13:38:43 2009 From: Roman Rist To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Car back (for what it's worth) Hi Folks, long time gone, and long time without a roadster. I would like to give a heartfelt thanks to Pam and Paul Bauman for storing my 66 for me. This weekend it returned to me, for the long road of roadster recovery ahead. Amongst other things, the drivetrain was gone. I was just stored as a rolling chassis. I managed to score a complete drivetrain with only 76,00 miles with some z therapy carbs. Now if I can remember how to work on roadsters, and the DMV gods smile on me, I might even end up at Solvang with a car. Wouldn't that be a hoot? Roman ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 13:42:11 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation Yeah, but where's the fun in that? Pete "beat it to $h!t...paint it to fit" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Smith" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 8:54:49 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation Tim, My local Goodyear Dealer separated both front rotors for $5 each when I had the rotors turned there. My $.02. Matt Smith -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:09 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation I seem to remember someone had posted a request for help on this one. Can you please forward me the suggestion that worked--I can't find it in my inbox. I most likely will end up having my mechanic do it since this unit is pretty rusty, but I still would like to try myself first. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as whamba@earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 13:51:29 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? >From my response 2 days ago: > From the 311s.org TechWiki: "New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 " ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 10:20:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? [snip] What does a rotor measure new? Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 14:00:08 2009 From: Tim To: Pete Peters , Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:00:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? I didn't get your reply from two days ago. Thanks for the resend! But now I have three different minimum thickness amounts......... :-( Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Pete Peters wrote: ============= >From my response 2 days ago: > From the 311s.org TechWiki: "New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 " ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 10:20:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? [snip] What does a rotor measure new? Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 14:15:13 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? Well, .325 and .331 are close enough for me to call 'em the same. Wonder where Ross got .37, or maybe it's a best practices thing. You know, yeah, the minimum is .31, but when you hit .37 the caliper pistons are almost max extension, so best start budgeting for new rotors. I have a new set of DBA rotors I'll measure when I get home. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Pete Peters" , "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 12:00:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? I didn't get your reply from two days ago. Thanks for the resend! But now I have three different minimum thickness amounts......... :-( Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Pete Peters wrote: ============= >From my response 2 days ago: > From the 311s.org TechWiki: "New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 " ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Ross Mullen / Sports Imports" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 10:20:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? [snip] What does a rotor measure new? Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 15:38:53 2009 From: vulforge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:39:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Car back Roman! ???? Welcome back, dude!? Good luck on the car! Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 17:20:27 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? I had mine turned down to .380 so they would work with the sprint car brakes I installed. I have the old set which are turned down in diameter for sale if anyone is thinking about a Volvo brake swap. I had them turned down and then modified my stock calipers so that they would fit inside 13" wheels. I have the stock pistons for sale as well as a 23mm front swaybar, rear swaybar, and rear Koni's. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 19:39:16 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , "Eric Hoffman" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:40:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia Tim, I used Intercity last year to ship a '67 2000 from Vista, California to NW Indiana. About $1,450. Excellent service, first-class enclosed trailer, careful handling. Gary Ault 2303 Normandy Road Schererville, Indiana 46375 (219) 322-1923 ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim fisher" To: "Eric Hoffman" ; "datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net" ; "Tim" Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia > Hey Tim, > I'd be interested in how much they charged. Probably was some bonding or > insurance coverage. Was there a per mile charge or was it a flat rate. > Been kicking around doing some hotshot stuff or car hauling.... > Thanks, > Tim > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Tim wrote: > >> From: Tim >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] shipping a truck from texas to georgia >> To: "Eric Hoffman" , "datsun-roadsters: >> autox.team.net" >> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:45 AM >> I used Intercity Lines to ship my Dad's Roadster from CA >> to WI. It was pricey but worth it--covered transport the >> whole way. My dad was impressed with the professionalism of >> the husband and wife team that picked up the car on his end. >> And the driver who dropped the car on my end was equally >> professional. >> >> I have heard that some of the cheaper vehicle shippers >> might be unscrupulous and that some drivers try to get more >> money out of the people involved to unload the car at its >> destination. I have not experienced this but have heard it >> from more than one person. >> >> At 650ish miles, it might be cheaper to rent an appropriate >> trailer and haul it yourself. >> >> >> Tim >> Belleville, WI. >> '70 SPL AND SRL >> Still clueless but always learning >> >> ---- Eric Hoffman wrote: >> >> ============= >> Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to >> Alpharetta, GA. The >> truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. Any >> suggestions? >> >> Eric Hoffman >> Alpharetta, GA >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as timbob_fisher@yahoo.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 20:32:25 2009 From: "dave" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:33:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: studded tires... You had metal in the footwells? I was pulling the 66 on to the trailer at night, As I was coming over the back of the trailer, halfway on, I looked down toward the gas pedal and thought I had a fire. Turned out it was the trailer's tail lights shining up through the floor!! Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland@charter.net] Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: Re: studded tires... Wow, look at that muffler. That car has been sitting outside for a very long time. The under side of Bills new part car is rustier than one of my part cars. And my car had rice paper thin sheet metal in the foot well AND A-pillars. How are the A-pillars on that car Bill? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 20:40:30 2009 From: "dave" To: "'Pete Peters'" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:37:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation I have the 10 ton hydraulic press in the garage..the excuse to buy it was to separate distributor parts :) Boy is it fun. -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] Yeah, but where's the fun in that? Pete "beat it to $h!t...paint it to fit" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Smith" Tim, My local Goodyear Dealer separated both front rotors for $5 each when I had the rotors turned there. My $.02. Matt Smith ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 6 23:50:50 2009 From: Jeff Torres To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Countdown to Solvang 2009 Hello there everyone. Only 19 days until Solvang and we are plugging along! I would like to take this time to thank everyone who has stepped up and volunteered their time and or great merchandise to the show. It is truly great to have people contact me and donate or ask to help in many ways without me having to do to much. I can honestly say that everyone who is supporting our show is doing it because they love Roadsters and the Roadster community out there. Also, I am very appreciative of the vendors and parts "specialists" out there who have enthusiastically gone out of their way to provide a service to all of the Roadster nation. Kudos to you all and much thanks! Because of the generosity of a few individuals and businesses we are looking at some GREAAAAAT raffle prizes for our Banquet BBQ. Some of these raffle prizes already committed are: A totally restored set of early or late year car gauges, 2000 & 1600 carb sets, Dizzy Electronic Ignition kits, bunches of reproduced hard to find engine and body parts, springs and the list goes on. Bottom line is that these these folks who donated this stuff didn't do it for the sole purpose of making money, they did it also because they are dedicated to keeping our cars on the road! Soooooooo...remember this Saturday is the end of pre-registration. I have missed a few regulars so far(Paul Gabriel?) Wouldn't be the same without you guys. So get those registrations in and if you feel like pitching in for the cause by way of a raffle prize let me know! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! to all that have helped along the way. Jeff T. Lemoore, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 07:04:04 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: spridget , Paul Asgeirsson Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:53:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rotor and hub seperation Every boy needs a dog Every project needs a tool On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:37 PM, "dave" wrote: > I have the 10 ton hydraulic press in the garage..the excuse to buy > it was to > separate distributor parts :) > Boy is it fun. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Peters [mailto:ppeters914@comcast.net] > > Yeah, but where's the fun in that? > > Pete "beat it to $h!t...paint it to fit" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Smith" > > > Tim, > My local Goodyear Dealer separated both front rotors for $5 each > when I had > the rotors turned there. My $.02. > Matt Smith > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 11:34:35 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 12:20:43 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:54:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? From: "Pete Peters" >> From the 311s.org TechWiki: > "New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 > " > > ----- Original Message ----- > What does a rotor measure new? > > Tim I have a set of 'new' Nissan rotors, uninstalled, which I've had for probably 20+ yrs which measure at .410" .......just to confuse the issue........??? Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 12:31:43 2009 From: Gary McCormick To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?) To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick Pete You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 12:48:15 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? Probably due to Canadian rotor less than US rotor. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:54:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rotors--.37 min? From: "Pete Peters" >> From the 311s.org TechWiki: > "New rotors are approximately .433" thick with a minimum thickness of .325 > " > > ----- Original Message ----- > What does a rotor measure new? > > Tim I have a set of 'new' Nissan rotors, uninstalled, which I've had for probably 20+ yrs which measure at .410" .......just to confuse the issue........??? Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 13:07:04 2009 From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:57:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Auto Transport I used Auto Transport 4 Less just in January 2009. I shipped a Honda civic from SoCal to Camp Lejeune, NC. $875.00 door to door! No problems either. Here is the contact info. If you do go with them, could you tell them Rich Schlegel recommended them? I don't get anything for it but it's nice to let them know you heard from a previous customer. Linda was very nice, kept in contact with you all the time, and they even give you the truck drivers cell phone number so you can know where your car is. Good Luck! Take Care, Rich '68 1600 http://picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich Member of the SoCalROC http://higenki.com/socalroc/ Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco Linda Williams Auto Transport 4 Less Toll Free 1-866-HAUL 4 LESS Phone: 714-961-9900 Fax: 714-524-3299 www.autotransport4less.com >> ---- Eric Hoffman wrote: >> >> ============= >> Hi guys, I need to ship a truck from Mineola, Texas to >> Alpharetta, GA. The >> truck is a $2000 item and my timeline is flexible. Any >> suggestions? >> >> Eric Hoffman >> Alpharetta, GA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 13:07:37 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?) To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick Pete You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 14:26:42 2009 From: Gary McCormick To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors But what about oldies like our Roadsters, for which parts are rapidly becoming NLA? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 11:01 AM Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?) To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick Pete You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 15:19:10 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors I had a client that developed a procedure called flame spray deposition or something like that. He had a plasma gun with a metal wire feeder like a mig welder. Compressed air would blow the molten metal out kind of like a sand blaster. The molten metal would stick like welding flash only in tiny particles. He could build up parts like heads that were cut too thin, engine blocks, or brake rotors. He could also deposit zinc on steel to make a galvanized coating on existing structures like bridges. I thought it was kind of a neat process. I've heard of a similar process used by the navy on ships. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 15:35:25 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors Don't know about other cars, but I'm guessing the roadster vendors have quite a few on their shelves. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:02:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors But what about oldies like our Roadsters, for which parts are rapidly becoming NLA? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 11:01 AM Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?) To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick Pete You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 15:40:58 2009 From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:26:29 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors At that point, I think it's just cheaper to buy new rotors. Flame spray is expensive. Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:51 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors I had a client that developed a procedure called flame spray deposition or something like that. He had a plasma gun with a metal wire feeder like a mig welder. Compressed air would blow the molten metal out kind of like a sand blaster. The molten metal would stick like welding flash only in tiny particles. He could build up parts like heads that were cut too thin, engine blocks, or brake rotors. He could also deposit zinc on steel to make a galvanized coating on existing structures like bridges. I thought it was kind of a neat process. I've heard of a similar process used by the navy on ships. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 16:10:13 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors OTOH, serious bragging rights.... "Yo, check out my rotors. They're flame sprayed!" Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Waltz" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 1:26:29 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors At that point, I think it's just cheaper to buy new rotors. Flame spray is expensive. Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:51 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors I had a client that developed a procedure called flame spray deposition or something like that. He had a plasma gun with a metal wire feeder like a mig welder. Compressed air would blow the molten metal out kind of like a sand blaster. The molten metal would stick like welding flash only in tiny particles. He could build up parts like heads that were cut too thin, engine blocks, or brake rotors. He could also deposit zinc on steel to make a galvanized coating on existing structures like bridges. I thought it was kind of a neat process. I've heard of a similar process used by the navy on ships. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 16:43:39 2009 From: Eddie To: Gary McCormick Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:20:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors Ummm, these are BRAKES we're talking about. I wouldn't be so quick to "weld repair" brake components. Imagine tooling down the freeway at 65mph, and suddenly one of your break rotors explode because the metal was weakened by welding and grinding... Not a good scenario. It's one thing to use, say, Volvo rotors and turn them down. OR to use or make aftermarket rotors. But welding and grinding an existing rotor? Sounds like a recipe for disaster. You run the risk of weakening the metal in a pretty critical component, which, if it fails, could cause a serious accident. IF a welded engine part goes, you blow the motor. A risk of crashing? Yeah, sure, MAYBE. If you don't know how to handle a rear wheel skid, AND you don't keep your cool and simply press the clutch in to disengage the rear end, MAYBE you'll crash. BUT, if a welded BRAKE component goes, you'd be lucky if you didn't crash! Just my 2 cents... which isn't even worth half of that... Eddie Gary McCormick wrote: > This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? > > I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: > From: Pete Peters > Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?) > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM > > Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick > > Pete > You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 16:44:08 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] For Sale: front and/or rear frame with drum brakes Friend (not on list) is cutting up a roadster frame with drums. If anyone interested, please contact Mike directly: mklotz1@comcast.net Mike is located in Gresham, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Klotz" To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?) To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick Pete You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as datsundoc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 20:02:02 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:02:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT The Man Rules I have never seen them in writing and thought I would share. The Man Rules At last a guy has taken the time to write this all down Finally, the guys' side of the story. ( I must admit, it's pretty good.) We always hear 'the rules' >From the female side Now here are the rules from the male side. These are our rules! Please note.. these are all numbered '1 ' ON PURPOSE! 1. Men are NOT mind readers. 1.. Learn to work the toilet seat. You're a big girl. If it's up, put it down.. We need it up, you need it down. You don't hear us complaining about you leaving it down. 1. Sunday sports It's like the full moon or the changing of the tides. Let it be. 1. Crying is blackmail. 1. Ask for what you want. Let us be clear on this one: Subtle hints do not work! Strong hints do not work! Obvious hints do not work! Just say it! 1. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question. 1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for. 1. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument. In fact, all comments become null and void after 7 Days. 1. If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us. 1. If something we said can be interpreted two ways and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, we meant the other one 1. You can either ask us to do something or tell us how you want it done. Not both. If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself. 1. Whenever possible, Please say whatever you have to say during commercials 1. Christopher Columbus did NOT need directions and neither do we. 1. ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings. Peach, for example, is a fruit, not A color. Pumpkin is also a fruit. We have no idea what mauve is. 1. If it itches, it will be scratched.. We do that. 1. If we ask what is wrong and you say 'nothing,' We will act like nothing's wrong. We know you are lying, but it is just not worth the hassle. 1. If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, Expect an answer you don't want to hear. 1. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely anything you wear is fine.... Really. 1. Don't ask us what we're thinking about unless you are prepared to discuss such topics as baseball or motor sports. 1. You have enough clothes. 1. You have too many shoes. 1. I am in shape. Round IS a shape! 1. Thank you for reading this. Yes, I know, I have to sleep on the couch tonight. But did you know men really don't mind that? It's like camping. Pass this to as many men as you can - to give them a laugh. Pass this to as many women as you can - to give them a bigger laugh. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 20:16:10 2009 From: geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:16:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege. ? Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to Solvang later this month. ? For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay. ? Gary C Los Angeles, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 20:49:13 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: , Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:42:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner I think you should sell them to me for $100. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of geegc@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:17 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. Gary C Los Angeles, CA You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 20:58:02 2009 From: Eddie To: Andy Cost Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:58:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner I think he should give them to me for free! LOL Andy Cost wrote: > I think you should sell them to me for $100. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of > geegc@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:17 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner > available > > I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. > > Gary C > > Los Angeles, CA > You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 20:58:54 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Gary McCormick" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:56:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors Gary, I'm sure one could repair brake rotors by welding, but new ones are available from Australia, and weld build-up/machining would seem to be very expensive in comparison. Gary A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors > This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it > before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and > regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping > especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? > > I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this > thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this > being done to brake discs. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > > --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: > From: Pete Peters > Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: > Rotors--.37 min?) > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM > > Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick > > Pete > You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 20:59:20 2009 From: Eddie To: geegc@aol.com Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:00:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... Eddie geegc@aol.com wrote: > I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege. > > ? > > Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to Solvang later this month. > > ? > > For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay. > > ? > > Gary C > > Los Angeles, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 21:17:48 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:17:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner Put them on EBAY with a decent reserve and see what happens. Or bring them to Solvang so that all those potential buyers can have a look. Linda -----Original Message----- From: geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 6:16 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege. ? Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to Solvang later this month. ? For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay. ? Gary C Los Angeles, CA You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 21:59:26 2009 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner Gary, and List, I have an extra set of early Type Q 44mm Solex carbs (carbs only) rebuilt by Todd at Wolf Creek that I would let go for a grand (what I paid for them).? I think for a complete set you should ask at least 50% more.? Even 2K for your complete set with original air cleaner (if you have one) would be fair market value. Just my thoughts. John Over wycroc -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 8:17 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available Put them on EBAY with a decent reserve and see what happens. Or bring them to Solvang so that all those potential buyers can have a look. Linda -----Original Message----- From: geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 6:16 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege. ? Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to Solvang later this month. ? For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay. ? Gary C Los Angeles, CA You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 22:17:31 2009 From: geegc@aol.com To: jover4x4@aol.com, datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net, Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:18:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaneravailable Thanks. Voice of reason! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: jover4x4@aol.com Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:59:50 To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available Gary, and List, I have an extra set of early Type Q 44mm Solex carbs (carbs only) rebuilt by Todd at Wolf Creek that I would let go for a grand (what I paid for them).? I think for a complete set you should ask at least 50% more.? Even 2K for your complete set with original air cleaner (if you have one) would be fair market value. Just my thoughts. John Over wycroc -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 8:17 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available Put them on EBAY with a decent reserve and see what happens. Or bring them to Solvang so that all those potential buyers can have a look. Linda -----Original Message----- From: geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 6:16 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege. ? Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to Solvang later this month. ? For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay. ? Gary C Los Angeles, CA You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as geegc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 22:54:09 2009 From: "dave" To: Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:54:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors You know, if there was ever a worthwile item to get reproduced, rotors would get my vote. The whole group buy/specification thing can be a large undertaking, but I'd buy 2 or 3 sets if the price was right. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: datsundoc@aol.com [mailto:datsundoc@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 6:07 PM To: ppeters914@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors Brake rotors are cast iron. Not something you would want to weld and then use. They would likely crack and shatter. The cranks are forged steel. Very different and still potentially problamatic if you weld them due to stresses imparted into the crank. Having rotors made is not that big of a deal. As long as there is demand there will be a supply. Even one off rotors can be made pretty reasonably. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake rotors Maybe because new rotors are fifty bucks or less on most cars. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:01:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Brake rotors This just occurred to me - and I'm surprised that I haven't run across it before: Are brake discs repairable by surface buildup weld repair and regrinding? I can foresee potential problems with this - warping especially - but maybe this is not an insurmountable obstacle? I have seen some pretty beat-up crankshafts welded and reground, but this thread on brake rotors made me realize that I have never heard of this being done to brake discs. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: [Roadsters] New disc brake rotors are .43 inch (was Re: Rotors--.37 min?) To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:30 AM Verified. My brand new DBA rotors measure .43-inch thick Pete You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as datsundoc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 00:19:44 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:20:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady http://drivingtv.canada.com/CarReviewVideos.php?ccID=303&search_text= ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 09:18:13 2009 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:18:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] NY article 280z http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/automobiles/collectibles/05EGO.html?ref=aut omobiles SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 10:35:17 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner Not a buyer, but items don't exist without pics. Pete "Happy Hump Day" ----- Original Message ----- From: geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 6:16:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available I have a set of old-style Solex carburetors, and intake manifold and a new ITG air filter assembly that I bought for my Black 2000.? The carburetors were recently rebuilt by Wolf Creek Racing in Long Island.? I took them off the 2000 because I didn't like the way they ran and replaced them with a set of SUs, which for the purists among you is probably some kind of sacrilege. ? Anyway, the car is easier to drive with the SUs and it's time to convert the Solexes and air filter to cash. I thought I would put it out to the list before I try to sell it on eBay. If someone cuts a deal with me I can bring it up to Solvang later this month. ? For those of you that don't want to buy them I'm curious as to your opinion of how much they should sell for. I have seen them go for well over $1000 on eBay. ? Gary C Los Angeles, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 11:18:44 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:19:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady Cool! Nice to see the early ones getting some attention, too. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:21 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady http://drivingtv.canada.com/CarReviewVideos.php?ccID=303&search_text= Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 12:04:32 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:02:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... Hi all, I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft.. Anyone? Thanks... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 12:30:15 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy. tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others are going to get jammed. Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down the list of things to do I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 12:43:33 2009 From: Eddie To: SlowBoy Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:44:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner "I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... Odds are, they won't for awhile. Traditionally, when the economy goes the crap, energy prices, and gas especially drop because people travel less. The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the trucking industry is about to go completely belly up. If that happens, no goods, including FOOD will get to the stores. The state Department according to sources I know is actually planning for a potential collapse in a lot of things which could result in complete chaos for a few months. My advice? Make sure you have enough food stockpiled for a couple of months because if that happens, you are not going to be getting any at the supermarket until things get fixed... which may be a few months down the line. Likely scenario is that it will happen very suddenly, and with little warning... SlowBoy wrote: > And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I > just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going > from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy. > > tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others > are going to get jammed. > > Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down > the list of things to do > > I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner > available > > Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them > to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean > them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 13:00:01 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner Geez, y'all are -FULL- of good news...... :--( Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "SlowBoy" Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:44:17 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available "I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... Odds are, they won't for awhile. Traditionally, when the economy goes the crap, energy prices, and gas especially drop because people travel less. The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the trucking industry is about to go completely belly up. If that happens, no goods, including FOOD will get to the stores. The state Department according to sources I know is actually planning for a potential collapse in a lot of things which could result in complete chaos for a few months. My advice? Make sure you have enough food stockpiled for a couple of months because if that happens, you are not going to be getting any at the supermarket until things get fixed... which may be a few months down the line. Likely scenario is that it will happen very suddenly, and with little warning... SlowBoy wrote: > And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I > just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going > from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy. > > tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others > are going to get jammed. > > Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down > the list of things to do > > I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner > available > > Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them > to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean > them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 13:05:47 2009 From: Dan Kroninger To: , Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:06:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner I have recently seen credit card companies lower your credit limit below what you currently have on your card, make a small note on your statement and online, and then charge you a fee for charging over your limit. Nice, huh. I also got the same letter raising my rate on both of my credit cards (BOA and Crapital One). fortunately, I never carry a balance, so they have never earned a penny from me. Some people are really going to get screwed! > From: slowboy@cox.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:55 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available > > And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I > just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going > from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy. > > tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others > are going to get jammed. > > Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down > the list of things to do > > I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner > available > > Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them > to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean > them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d_kroninger@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Stor age1_042009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 13:16:29 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] OT: from Solex carbs to collapse of trucking, no food, Yup, me, too. Paying credit card finance charges....FAIL!!! I think some college students did an analysis many years ago that all credit card companies would be out of business if everyone paid their full balance due every month for six months or something. It was definitely less than a year. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Kroninger" To: slowboy@cox.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 11:06:32 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available I have recently seen credit card companies lower your credit limit below what you currently have on your card, make a small note on your statement and online, and then charge you a fee for charging over your limit. Nice, huh. I also got the same letter raising my rate on both of my credit cards (BOA and Crapital One). fortunately, I never carry a balance, so they have never earned a penny from me. Some people are really going to get screwed! > From: slowboy@cox.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:55 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available > > And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I > just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going > from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy. > > tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others > are going to get jammed. > > Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down > the list of things to do > > I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner > available > > Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them > to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean > them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d_kroninger@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Stor age1_042009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 14:06:46 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Eddie'" , "'SlowBoy'" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:07:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner They already have! It was down around $1.50 a few months ago. Now it has crept back over $2 a gallon. So much for the old supply and demand theory. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:44 PM To: SlowBoy Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available "I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... Odds are, they won't for awhile. Traditionally, when the economy goes the crap, energy prices, and gas especially drop because people travel less. The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the trucking industry is about to go completely belly up. If that happens, no goods, including FOOD will get to the stores. The state Department according to sources I know is actually planning for a potential collapse in a lot of things which could result in complete chaos for a few months. My advice? Make sure you have enough food stockpiled for a couple of months because if that happens, you are not going to be getting any at the supermarket until things get fixed... which may be a few months down the line. Likely scenario is that it will happen very suddenly, and with little warning... SlowBoy wrote: > And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I > just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going > from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy. > > tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others > are going to get jammed. > > Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down > the list of things to do > > I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner > available > > Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them > to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean > them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 14:10:57 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:11:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner -----Original Message----- The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the trucking industry is about to go completely belly up. ************************** Gee, without trucks you mean we would have to buy local products? You mean manufacturing might have to return to this country? You mean there might be some jobs available? You mean there might actually be an economy again? Sounds okay to me. But then, where could I get my roadster parts? Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 14:14:47 2009 From: Eddie To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:15:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner That would be a good thing EVENTUALLY, but until things get settled, it's going to be a colossal mess, and the potential for a lot of death and destruction is pretty high... Paul wrote: > -----Original Message----- > The real problem people should be worried about is the fact that the > trucking industry is about to go completely belly up. > ************************** > > Gee, without trucks you mean we would have to buy local products? You > mean manufacturing might have to return to this country? You mean there > might be some jobs available? You mean there might actually be an economy > again? > > Sounds okay to me. But then, where could I get my roadster parts? > > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 14:51:03 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: SlowBoy Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner Money is a commodity like oranges and oil. Flood the market and the value drops. The fed is printing money like it is going out of style so every dollar in your pocket is worth less each day. The way credit companies generate income is to charge interest. If the dollar is worth less every day then they have to charge more interest to stay in business. It is no wonder the Chinese and others are pushing to change the world economy from being based on the dollar. We are destroying the value of the dollar dragging the whole world down with us. rant over, Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "SlowBoy" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 12:30:55 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available And if you haven't got the hint about how bad the economy is swinging, I just got my Bank of America letter informing me that my MasterCard was going from 7.99 % fixed to 17.13 % variable and their reason was the economy. tsk tsk tsk I opted out, they lost a customer though I'm sure many others are going to get jammed. Datsun Roadster content - my shiny new parts purchase list got bumped down the list of things to do I wonder when the gas prices will go back up...... -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old-style Solex carburetors and air cleaner available Honestly, in this economy? You're probably better off holding onto them to sell in a year or two when things get back to normal. Just clean them really good so they don't sit with gas in them... You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 14:52:52 2009 From: PDFenter@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:53:40 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please **************New Deals on Dell Netbooks b Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219939010x1201342897/aol?redir= http:%2F%2Fa d.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771626%3B35379597%3Bw) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 14:54:07 2009 From: "Matt Jacquet" To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:02:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please I'll second that motion.. I got enough problems. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of PDFenter@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:54 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please **************New Deals on Dell Netbooks b Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219939010x1201342897/aol?redir = http:%2F%2Fa d.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771626%3B35379597%3Bw) You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 15:07:39 2009 From: "Mark Bennett" To: "Matt Jacquet" , Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:08:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please Me too, where's my rope? Can't afford the bullet! Mark -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Matt Jacquet Sent: April 8, 2009 1:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please I'll second that motion.. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.45/2045 - Release Date: 04/08/09 05:53:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 15:18:44 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please Like how to pay for that next silver roadster? Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jacquet" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 1:02:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please I'll second that motion.. I got enough problems. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of PDFenter@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:54 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please **************New Deals on Dell Netbooks b Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219939010x1201342897/aol?redir = http:%2F%2Fa d.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771626%3B35379597%3Bw) You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 15:49:31 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:50:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please Somebody better ask a Datsun question or this could go on forever... Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 1:17 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please Like how to pay for that next silver roadster? Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jacquet" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 1:02:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please I'll second that motion.. I got enough problems. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of PDFenter@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:54 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please **************New Deals on Dell Netbooks b Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219939010x1201342897/aol?redir = http:%2F%2Fa d.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771626%3B35379597%3Bw) You are subscribed as matt@vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 16:03:24 2009 From: "Tim Waltz" To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:03:37 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] machine shop We all needed a datsun question: I've never rebuilt an engine before, although I have friends in the area that are great resources and have offered to help. I'm stroking my 1600 engine. Should I use standard or larger U20 pistons, and when I do, what dimensions might the machine shop need?? Tim Waltz 67.5 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 16:06:54 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: "Gregory S. Morrison" , Datsun Roadster Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:07:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady Don't know who did it or owns it, but I belieive the show is based in Vancouver, and it was pointed out on 311s.org that it may be the car in the picture at this site: http://www.dnbc.ca/ That picture was taken in North Vancouver. Daryl From: "Gregory S. Morrison" > That's a beautiful restoration! Does anyone on the list know who did it? > Or > who owns it? > > Greg > SRL31100494 > > > On 4/7/09 10:20 PM, "Daryl Smith" wrote: > >> http://drivingtv.canada.com/CarReviewVideos.php?ccID=303&search_text= ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 16:15:03 2009 From: Gary Callahan To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady Great video! Thanks! Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Daryl Smith wrote: From: Daryl Smith Subject: [Roadsters] Video - 1960 Datsun Fairlady To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 10:20 PM http://drivingtv.canada.com/CarReviewVideos.php?ccID=303&search_text= You are subscribed as gcallahan@prodigy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 16:32:05 2009 From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:32:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] STROKING A 1600? How is this Linda? Why stroke a 1600 over just buying a 2000 and putting it in? Doesn't it make the 1600 less reliable by stroking it? What are the benefits? Also it sure would be nice to delete the extra text not needed when replying. The last digest had about 4 lines of new text and everything else was from the previous digest. Thanks Rich -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704@netscape.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please Somebody better ask a Datsun question or this could go on forever... Linda -----Original Message----- From: "Tim Waltz" Subject: [Roadsters] machine shop We all needed a datsun question: I've never rebuilt an engine before, although I have friends in the area that are great resources and have offered to help. I'm stroking my 1600 engine. Should I use standard or larger U20 pistons, and when I do, what dimensions might the machine shop need?? Tim Waltz 67.5 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 16:40:50 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: RSCHLEGEL@OCSD.COM, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:40:42 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] STROKING A 1600? Price a timing chain/sprocket set for a U20 engine and one for a R16/H20. The stroker R16 is very reliable. There is also the stealth factor of having a 2L that looks like a 1.6. The U20 was only used in one car so the price of some of the bits is getting high. The R16/H20 was used in many things for quite a long time. This makes the parts much more reasonable. keith In a message dated 4/8/2009 2:33:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, RSCHLEGEL@OCSD.COM writes: How is this Linda? Why stroke a 1600 over just buying a 2000 and putting it in? Doesn't it make the 1600 less reliable by stroking it? What are the benefits? Also it sure would be nice to delete the extra text not needed when replying. The last digest had about 4 lines of new text and everything else was from the previous digest. Thanks Rich -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704@netscape.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please Somebody better ask a Datsun question or this could go on forever... Linda -----Original Message----- From: "Tim Waltz" Subject: [Roadsters] machine shop We all needed a datsun question: I've never rebuilt an engine before, although I have friends in the area that are great resources and have offered to help. I'm stroking my 1600 engine. Should I use standard or larger U20 pistons, and when I do, what dimensions might the machine shop need?? Tim Waltz 67.5 1600 You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************New Deals on Dell Netbooks b Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219939010x1201342897/aol?redir= http:%2F %2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771626%3B35379597%3Bw) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 16:57:57 2009 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: "Schlegel, Richard" Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:58:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] STROKING A 1600? > Why stroke a 1600 over just buying a 2000 and putting it in? > Doesn't it make the 1600 less reliable by stroking it? The 1600 is a pretty bulletproof engine, whereas the 2000 may put its timing chain thru the hood if you don't take care of it. << Add lots of smilies >> -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 17:25:17 2009 From: "Tim Waltz" To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:25:19 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons. Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this? I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles. Sounds like a great option, but I need more info. TIA Tim 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked (that doesn't sound right) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 17:39:58 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:40:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] STROKING A 1600? The whole thread in all the emails is actually a nice thing. When the thread is done I only save the one with all the information. It makes for a nice resource when I need information that is a bit tough to hunt done in the archives. -----Original Message----- From: Also it sure would be nice to delete the extra text not needed when replying. The last digest had about 4 lines of new text and everything else was from the previous digest. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 18:02:56 2009 From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:03:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Road America in May Hey fellow Roadster-ites, The Spring Vintage Weekend is May 15-17 at Road America. Tammy and I are planning to drive up in the Datsun, weather permitting of course. If anybody is interested, there is a great, official, Wisconsin Scenic Highway all the way from Whitewater Lake (near Whitewater, WI), to Elkhart Lake, WI. If you weren't aware, Road America is very near Elkhart Lake too. Coincidence? I think not! We are hoping to leave bright and early Saturday, from the Janesville area and trying to follow the Scenic Highway to Elkhart Lake. We have tried this a couple of times from each direction, and have managed to lose track of the route along the way. It is not well marked in places. The route is narrow, winding back roads, through several state forests. Very scenic. Very likely where they thought up the name, but maybe not. I mapped it out with the help of Mr Google, but the map doesn't do the route justice. We drove back from EL this weekend, and managed to get lost again. The trip took about 4 hours, so certainly not the fast way, but may be the most fun. We are planning to spend Saturday night somewhere in the area, and make the return trip some time on Sunday. Anybody care to join along the way? I can send specifics about cross roads etc if you would like to join us in the Milwaukee area or anywhere along the route. Happy Roadster-ing, Ken Williams '67 1600 Janesville, WI If anybody is interested, search for the Kettle Moraine Scenic Drive. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 18:20:11 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Tim Waltz , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:20:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on the correct pistons to use. The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will minimally affect power and torque. The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may make it a more attractive option to some....... Read this thread for a detailed discussion: http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acceleration.html Daryl From: "Tim Waltz" > Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and > later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons. > > Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this? > I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles. Sounds like a great > option, but I need more info. > > TIA > > Tim > 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked > (that doesn't sound right) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 18:25:37 2009 From: Eddie To: "ljordan704@netscape.net" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:25:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please Yeah cause why should we discuss anything trivial like emergency preparedness on the hole roadster list? LOL. I'm always amazed at how people will willingly talk about storm preparedness but god forbid anyone talk about being ready in case basic services shut down for a short while. I mean it's not like the government dropped the ball before. Uh, wait... Katrina.... Nevermind. LOL Sent from my iPhone plz excuse typing errors. :-) On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:50 PM, ljordan704@netscape.net wrote: ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 19:02:04 2009 From: Alvin Gogineni To: Eddie Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:59:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please Wonder if I'll get to drive that RHD roadster at Solvang again... http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2525065890100628195iRbfoJ :) On Apr 8, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Eddie wrote: > Yeah cause why should we discuss anything trivial like emergency > preparedness on the hole roadster list? LOL. > > I'm always amazed at how people will willingly talk about storm > preparedness but god forbid anyone talk about being ready in case > basic services shut down for a short while. > > I mean it's not like the government dropped the ball before. Uh, > wait... Katrina.... Nevermind. LOL > > Sent from my iPhone plz excuse typing errors. :-) > > > On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:50 PM, ljordan704@netscape.net wrote: > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin@gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 21:17:59 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Eddie" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:10:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... Eddie, I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns. If there is one, I'd like to know. Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer have the tooling. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... > Hi all, > > I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and wanted > to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan cars use > the same spline configuration on the steering shaft.. > > Anyone? > Thanks... > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 21:18:50 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:14:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please RHD burnout? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Alvin Gogineni To: Eddie Cc: ljordan704@netscape.net ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 4:59 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] back to datsuns please Wonder if I'll get to drive that RHD roadster at Solvang again...? ? http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2525065890100628195iRbfoJ? ? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 21:23:58 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Tim Waltz" , Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:24:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] machine shop A capable machine shop will tell you in advance how much they need to bore the block. When I hade my U20 rebuilt, the shop told me they wanted to bore theblock 0.020 over, so that's the pistons I bought. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Waltz" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: [Roadsters] machine shop > We all needed a datsun question: > > > I've never rebuilt an engine before, although I have friends in the area > that are great resources and have offered to help. > > I'm stroking my 1600 engine. Should I use standard or larger U20 pistons, > and when I do, what dimensions might the machine shop need?? > > Tim Waltz > 67.5 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 21:33:44 2009 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator a definite datsun question! in case i don't find the voltage regulator for my early 67 (it arrived in kit form), is there a replacement i can get at a flaps? thanks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 21:37:53 2009 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator sorry - i'm talking about the one for the instruments, not the one for the alternator. thanks! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 00:09:06 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] voltage regulator No and NLA from Nissan. Same one was used in many 60's Datsuns, so should be easy to find one. That said, someone replaced created a solid state version, however, IIRC, our resident Gauge Guru said there's a problem with that. Don't remember if the discussion was here and/or on the 311s.org forum. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 7:38:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator sorry - i'm talking about the one for the instruments, not the one for the alternator. thanks! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 00:38:37 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Pete Peters" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:23:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] voltage regulator Available from both Dean and Dann, maybe others. Early and late cars were different. I may have a late one used, but my parts supply is presently in disarray while we remodel the storage area. I'll check if you're interested. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] voltage regulator > No and NLA from Nissan. Same one was used in many 60's Datsuns, so should > be easy to find one. > > That said, someone replaced created a solid state version, however, IIRC, > our resident Gauge Guru said there's a problem with that. Don't remember > if the discussion was here and/or on the 311s.org forum. > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "oliver" > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 7:38:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Roadsters] voltage regulator > > sorry - i'm talking about the one for the instruments, not the one for the > alternator. > > thanks! > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 01:10:41 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Tim Waltz'" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:47:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker The guys at Circle Track magazine did a pretty thorough test of this a few years ago. Basically a longer rod will broaden the power band because the piston sits at TDC longer and the angularity of rod and crank improves the leverage slightly. In a 350 ci Chevy at 9000 rpm, it makes a difference, but you probably won't be able to tell the difference on a street motor. Basic truths for the technically-inclined: With a longer rod, the piston will remain near TDC and BDC longer. At TDC on the Power stroke, this allows cylinder pressures to build a bit higher. Since the piston has to traverse the whole cylinder during each cycle, and since the maximum piston speed at the middle of the cycle will be the same regardless of rod length, this means that piston ACCELERATION will be somewhat greater with a longer rod. Again, this may be a factor at 9000 rpm with super-light pistons, but not in a street motor. A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability of the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:21 PM To: Tim Waltz; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on the correct pistons to use. The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will minimally affect power and torque. The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may make it a more attractive option to some....... Read this thread for a detailed discussion: http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acce leration.html Daryl From: "Tim Waltz" > Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and > later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons. > > Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this? > I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles. Sounds like a great > option, but I need more info. > > TIA > > Tim > 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked > (that doesn't sound right) Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 01:39:43 2009 From: Eddie To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:12:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering wheel. I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for ALL of their cars for many years... Will let you know what I find out. :-) Eddie Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Eddie, > > I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I > don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns. If > there is one, I'd like to know. > > Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer > have the tooling. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... > > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and >> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan >> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft.. >> >> Anyone? >> Thanks... >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 01:39:55 2009 From: Eddie To: Gordon Glasgow Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:23:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the power gain came from... Isn't that also the case? Eddie Gordon Glasgow wrote: > The guys at Circle Track magazine did a pretty thorough test of this a few > years ago. Basically a longer rod will broaden the power band because the > piston sits at TDC longer and the angularity of rod and crank improves the > leverage slightly. In a 350 ci Chevy at 9000 rpm, it makes a difference, but > you probably won't be able to tell the difference on a street motor. > > Basic truths for the technically-inclined: > > With a longer rod, the piston will remain near TDC and BDC longer. At TDC on > the Power stroke, this allows cylinder pressures to build a bit higher. > > Since the piston has to traverse the whole cylinder during each cycle, and > since the maximum piston speed at the middle of the cycle will be the same > regardless of rod length, this means that piston ACCELERATION will be > somewhat greater with a longer rod. Again, this may be a factor at 9000 rpm > with super-light pistons, but not in a street motor. > > A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston > weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability of > the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor. > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:21 PM > To: Tim Waltz; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker > > I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on the > > correct pistons to use. > The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will > minimally affect power and torque. > The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may make > it a more attractive option to some....... > Read this thread for a detailed discussion: > http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acce > leration.html > > Daryl > > > From: "Tim Waltz" > > >> Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and >> later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons. >> >> Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this? >> I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles. Sounds like a great >> option, but I need more info. >> >> TIA >> >> Tim >> 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked >> (that doesn't sound right) >> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 01:40:04 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Gordon Glasgow , 'Tim Waltz' Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:23:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" > > A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston > weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability of > the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor. > > Gordon Glasgow Good explanation Gordon. As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod was lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston (shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that much difference in pin height......... Anyone know what these rods weigh? Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 01:58:02 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Eddie , Gordon Glasgow Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:40:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker Not really. There is only so much cylinder height. and ideally for the same displacement/bore/stroke, they should start and stop at the same spot in the cylinder, near the top to get the best squish........ Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker >I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the cylinder >wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the power gain came >from... > > Isn't that also the case? > > Eddie > Gordon Glasgow wrote: >> The guys at Circle Track magazine did a pretty thorough test of this a >> few >> years ago. Basically a longer rod will broaden the power band because the >> piston sits at TDC longer and the angularity of rod and crank improves >> the >> leverage slightly. In a 350 ci Chevy at 9000 rpm, it makes a difference, >> but >> you probably won't be able to tell the difference on a street motor. >> >> Basic truths for the technically-inclined: >> >> With a longer rod, the piston will remain near TDC and BDC longer. At TDC >> on >> the Power stroke, this allows cylinder pressures to build a bit higher. >> >> Since the piston has to traverse the whole cylinder during each cycle, >> and >> since the maximum piston speed at the middle of the cycle will be the >> same >> regardless of rod length, this means that piston ACCELERATION will be >> somewhat greater with a longer rod. Again, this may be a factor at 9000 >> rpm >> with super-light pistons, but not in a street motor. >> >> A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston >> weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability >> of >> the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor. >> >> Gordon Glasgow >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:21 PM >> To: Tim Waltz; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker >> >> I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on >> the >> >> correct pistons to use. >> The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will >> minimally affect power and torque. >> The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may >> make it a more attractive option to some....... >> Read this thread for a detailed discussion: >> http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acce >> leration.html >> >> Daryl >> >> >> From: "Tim Waltz" >> >> >>> Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and >>> later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons. >>> >>> Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this? >>> I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles. Sounds like a great >>> option, but I need more info. >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> Tim >>> 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked >>> (that doesn't sound right) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 02:12:30 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Tim Waltz'" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:53:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker Okay, here are some measurements (in grams). I'll verify them tomorrow when I'm not so tired. R16 U20 -------- -------- Piston w/pin 580 652 Rod 798 899 Just because the pin height is higher in one piston doesn't necessarily mean the piston is shorter (and thus lighter). Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Smith [mailto:drlsmith@dccnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM To: Gordon Glasgow; 'Tim Waltz'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" > > A longer rod will also weigh more than a shorter rod, while the piston > weight will change very little (if at all). This may reduce the ability of > the engine to rev, partly offsetting the gains from the first factor. > > Gordon Glasgow Good explanation Gordon. As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod was lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston (shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that much difference in pin height......... Anyone know what these rods weigh? Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 06:14:30 2009 From: Mark Dent To: Eddie Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:55:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... Grant adapter for an 87 Jeep Wrangler will work. The splines are not the issue on the early cars, there is not much room between the dash and end of the column, that being said it works if you move the turn signals back some. As far as I know all aftermarket steering wheels lose the turn signal self cancel feature. Mark On Apr 9, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Eddie wrote: > The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering > wheel. > I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for > ALL of their cars for many years... > > Will let you know what I find out. :-) > > Eddie > > Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: >> Eddie, >> >> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but >> I don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early >> columns. If there is one, I'd like to know. >> >> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no >> longer have the tooling. >> >> Gary >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" >> To: "Datsun Roadster List" >> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and >>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other >>> Nissan cars use the same spline configuration on the steering >>> shaft.. >>> >>> Anyone? >>> Thanks... >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark@dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 08:47:10 2009 From: "Mark Sedlack" To: "Eddie" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:31:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... I used a Grant Signature wheel with Grant adapter # 4581 http://www.grantproducts.com/p-380-4581.aspx on our custom '66 Some specific pics of the adapter at www.mildevco.net/grant_wheel.htm and wheel http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/images/Almost_done/DSCF0846.jpg Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Gary and Cindy Ault" Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:12 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... > The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering wheel. > I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for ALL > of their cars for many years... > > Will let you know what I find out. :-) > > Eddie > > Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: >> Eddie, >> >> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I >> don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns. If >> there is one, I'd like to know. >> >> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer >> have the tooling. >> >> Gary >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" >> To: "Datsun Roadster List" >> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and >>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan >>> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft.. >>> >>> Anyone? >>> Thanks... >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as msedlack@neo.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 09:47:51 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: eddietude@socal.rr.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:32:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... Eddie, Are you doing a Grant wheel or Momo? The Momo adapter that will work is for the 240Z #3503. The Roadster #3500 is NLA. I have another adapter that didn't work for me but you are welcome to try it. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: Gary and Cindy Ault Cc: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:12 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering wheel. ? I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for ALL of their cars for many years...? ? Will let you know what I find out. :-)? ? Eddie? ? Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:? > Eddie,? >? > I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I > don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns. If > there is one, I'd like to know.? >? > Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer > have the tooling.? >? > Gary? > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" ? > To: "Datsun Roadster List" ? > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM? > Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...? >? >? >> Hi all,? >>? >> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and >> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan >> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..? >>? >> Anyone?? >> Thanks...? >> ________________________________________? >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >>? >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net? >>? >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list? >>? >> http://www.team.net/archive? >>? >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 10:54:00 2009 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'Daryl Smith'" , "'Tim Waltz'" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:30:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I used a set of custom J&E pistons. The SIGNIFICANTLY longer rods are better for high RPM's. The R16 rod is the longest rod Nissan ever produced! The oil ring is skinnier as are the others, because the wrist pin is pushed pretty far up the skirt. Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:21 PM To: Tim Waltz; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I keep hearing about it, but haven't heard any definitive information on the correct pistons to use. The rod angles will be slightly smaller, but from my reading this will minimally affect power and torque. The 280/300z pistons may however be cheaper than U20 pistons which may make it a more attractive option to some....... Read this thread for a detailed discussion: http://www.gofastnews.com/board/engine-technology/85-rod-ratio-vers-eng-acce leration.html Daryl From: "Tim Waltz" > Another stroker option I've heard of is using the longer (R16) rods, and > later Nissan (280Z, 300Z?) pistons. > > Has anyone ever heard of this, done this, or have any insight on this? > I've heard it has more torque and lower rod angles. Sounds like a great > option, but I need more info. > > TIA > > Tim > 67.5 1600 waiting to be stroked > (that doesn't sound right) You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 11:24:02 2009 From: "Stephen Wan" To: Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:03:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the combustion phase. The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle. Steve 70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Gordon Glasgow" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker >I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the > cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the > power gain came from... > > Isn't that also the case? > > Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 12:58:28 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank. Different rods and pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not change the stroke or displacement. To change the displacement you have to change the stroke or bore. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Wan" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the combustion phase. The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle. Steve 70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Gordon Glasgow" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker >I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the > cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the > power gain came from... > > Isn't that also the case? > > Eddie You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 14:18:41 2009 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: "'Embarq Customer'" , Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:30:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker Wouldn't a high domed piston create less displacement than a flat top or dished piston? Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL Carpenter, not engineer -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:57 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank. Different rods and pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not change the stroke or displacement. To change the displacement you have to change the stroke or bore. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Wan" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the combustion phase. The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle. Steve 70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Gordon Glasgow" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker >I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the > cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the > power gain came from... > > Isn't that also the case? > > Eddie You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 14:52:14 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Embarq Customer'" , Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:09:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker That's correct. A longer stroke not only provides more displacement for the same bore size, but it also provides more leverage (mechanical advantage) for the combustion pressure to apply to the crank. It's a longer lever. A long-stroke/small-bore motor will produce more torque than a short-stroke/large-bore motor of the same displacement, but the short-stroke motor will rev higher. "Back in the day" (read mid 1960's) there was a dragster team called Starkey & Jent (sp?) who ran a destroked Chevy small-block with a displacement of 233 ci and a GMC supercharger. They turned the thing to 10,000 rpm! At that time, if you could get 8,000 out of a SBC, you were doing really good. (Gawd, getting old is positively scary when I can remember things like that but I can't remember what I had for lunch two days ago!) And the amount of time the gas has to work on the crank is the same for any engine at a given rpm. At 6000 revolutions per minute, that's 0.005 seconds for half a revolution (the power stroke), regardless of bore, stroke or anything else. Piston speed will be higher because it has to travel farther during that time. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:57 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank. Different rods and pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not change the stroke or displacement. To change the displacement you have to change the stroke or bore. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Wan" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the combustion phase. The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle. Steve 70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Gordon Glasgow" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker >I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the > cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the > power gain came from... > > Isn't that also the case? > > Eddie You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 15:22:01 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:18:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Mech temp sender and guage Here's a fix for a broken guage or sender i just posted on 311 site: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9642&start=0&sid=aa25002af31f8457c8c9f003522ab6ac It's a bit of a hassle, and kind of ugly, but if you have broken sender you know what can be involved there. This is a temp fix for now on my car, as any sender is better than no sender in my opinion. Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 18:22:35 2009 From: turbored To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:50:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... Linda, doesn't the 240z one mess up the splines, because it's close but still off a bit? best, drew On Apr 9, 2009, at 7:32 AM, ljordan704@netscape.net wrote: > Eddie, > Are you doing a Grant wheel or Momo? The Momo adapter that will work > is for the 240Z #3503. The Roadster #3500 is NLA. > I have another adapter that didn't work for me but you are welcome > to try it. > > Linda > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie > To: Gary and Cindy Ault > Cc: Datsun Roadster List > Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:12 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... > > > > > > > > > > The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering > wheel. ? > > I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for > ALL > of their cars for many years...? > ? > > Will let you know what I find out. :-)? > ? > > Eddie? > ? > > Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:? > >> Eddie,? > >> ? > >> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I >> don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns. If >> there is one, I'd like to know.? > >> ? > >> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer >> have the tooling.? > >> ? > >> Gary? > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" ? > >> To: "Datsun Roadster List" ? > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM? > >> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...? > >> ? > >> ? > >>> Hi all,? > >>> ? > >>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and >>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other >>> Nissan >>> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..? > >>> ? > >>> Anyone?? > >>> Thanks...? > >>> ________________________________________? > >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? > >>> ? > >>> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net? > >>> ? > >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list? > >>> ? > >>> http://www.team.net/archive? > >>> ? > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________? > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? > ? > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? > ? > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list? > ? > > http://www.team.net/archive? > ? > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as turbored@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 18:53:00 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] WANTED: 4-speed release fork Anyone have a spare 4-speed clutch release fork? RL411 owner in Rockland, Maine needs one. Thanks. Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 19:22:08 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Roadster List" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:28:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] R16-U20 measurements and comparison Since I have both R16 and U20 parts in my garage right now, I figured this would be a good opportunity to document things. Eventually I may make a Web page out of it but for now, here's what I found. R16 U20 ------- ------- Crank weight 38 lbs 46 lbs Piston weight 454 g 471 g Pin weight 125 g 125 g Pin height 1.61" 1.61" Rod weight 792 g 954 g Rod length 6.010" 5.670" Crank to deck 8.937" 8.937" Stroke 2.630" 3.267" If you look at the following two pictures: http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Cranks_1.jpg http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Cranks_2.jpg You can see why the U20 crank is heavier. Not only is the stroke larger by about 5/8", but it is fully counterweighted. The R16 crank is not. Since both engines use the same piston pin diameter (22mm), it is easy to compare the pistons by putting one pin in both pistons: http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Pistons_1.jpg You can see first of all that both pistons have the same pin height. You can also see that the skirt of the U20 piston has been cut back to clear the counterweights and to allow for the longer stroke (remember, the piston will come down farther in the cylinder bore at BDC). So if the U20 piston is actually shorter in the skirts than the R16 and doesn't have a dome, how come it's so much heavier? http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Pistons_inside_2.jp g The walls of the U20 piston are twice as thick as the R16 - 0.125" vs 0.0625". And I measured the material thickness of the crown in the center of the piston at 0.371" for the U20 and 0.295" for the R16. I used the same "common pin" technique to compare the rods: http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Rods_piston_pin.jpg It is clear that the R16 rod is longer. Also, the pin boss is actually beefier. So why is the U20 rod heavier than the longer R16 rod? Here's the answer: http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/R16_U20_Comparison/R16_U20_Rods_crank_journal. jpg I pulled the caps off the rods and set them up on a couple of blocks of wood so that the big ends would be at the same height. This not only shows clearly how much longer the R16 rod is, but it also shows how much stronger the U20 rod is. Look at the thickness of the beam and at the extra meat around the big end. It looks from the measurements like the R16 actually has a higher deck height than the U20: Deck height = Crank to deck - (Stroke/2 + Rod length + Pin height) R16 - 0.0020" U20 - 0.0235" I don't have any Z pistons around to compare to, but if one of the theories is to use the R16 rod and a Z piston in a stroker motor, the pin height will need to be around 1.27". Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 19:23:31 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Joe Kinstle'" , "'Embarq Customer'" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:34:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker It doesn't change the displacement because the displacement is the swept volume of the piston, i.e. the space that the piston moves through during its stroke. That's strictly a function of bore and stroke. What a domed piston does is extend into the combustion chamber and take up space above the top of the block. This makes calculating the compression ratio more complicated for the enthusiast. It's easier for manufacturers to tweak compression ratio by changing the piston crown than to change the cylinder head design. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Kinstle Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:31 AM To: 'Embarq Customer'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker Wouldn't a high domed piston create less displacement than a flat top or dished piston? Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL Carpenter, not engineer -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq Customer Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:57 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank. Different rods and pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not change the stroke or displacement. To change the displacement you have to change the stroke or bore. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Wan" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the combustion phase. The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle. Steve 70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Gordon Glasgow" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker >I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the > cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the > power gain came from... > > Isn't that also the case? > > Eddie You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 22:04:11 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Joe Kinstle" , "'Embarq Customer'" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:02:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker Yes, and proportionally higher compression. May run into valves, also. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Kinstle" To: "'Embarq Customer'" ; Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker > Wouldn't a high domed piston create less displacement than a flat top or > dished piston? > > Joe Kinstle > '68 2L > BLK SRL > Carpenter, not engineer > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Embarq > Customer > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:57 AM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker > > The only thing that strokes the motor is a crank. Different rods and > pistons might change the angles between the rod and piston but does not > change the stroke or displacement. To change the displacement you have to > change the stroke or bore. > > Andy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Wan" > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:03:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker > > I think its from the longer distance the piston can travel during the > combustion phase. > The longer downstroke increases the amount of time that the expanding gas > has to turn the crank before reaching BDC per combustion cycle. > > Steve > 70' 1600 that still needs a tranny swap. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eddie" > To: "Gordon Glasgow" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker > > >>I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the >> cylinder wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the >> power gain came from... >> >> Isn't that also the case? >> >> Eddie > You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 22:49:53 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List , Gordon Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:40:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker >I thought the longer rod also pushed the piston farther "up" the cylinder >wall, thus compressing the gas MORE... and that's where the power gain came >from... > > Isn't that also the case? > > Eddie Actually, No, it only goes down further...... ;-) By changing the geometry (rod length and piston pin height), the piston can stop higher, lower, or at exactly the same height in a stroker motor as a stock motor, while overall travelling the extra distance of the stroker crank. This can be used to increase/decrease compression ratios and squish/quench clearance (distance between top of the piston and the head). I would try to bring the piston to block level or slightly higher to maximize the squish/quench, as long as it doesn't push the compression ratio too high. Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 22:50:35 2009 From: Jerry Krakauer To: Gary and Cindy Ault , Joe Kinstle Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:48:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker Yup, got to watch the valve clearance. I used R16 pistons in my U20 to raise the compression and the dome had to be flycut for valve clearance. This was standard BSR practice. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Joe Kinstle" ; "'Embarq Customer'" ; Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker > Yes, and proportionally higher compression. May run into valves, also. > > Gary ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 23:05:26 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:56:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 4-2-1 Header Posted a picture of my new header for my 1800cc stroker here: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2083&start=90 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 10:23:26 2009 From: jeremy mayne To: , , , Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:23:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I also believe the R16 rods are lighter than the U20 (I remember weighing them when I was building my stroker, but I don't remember the weights). They have a more slender beam than the U20s. This was part of my motivation for lightening the U20 rods by about 30 grams each. In an attempt to get a good CR with the forklift dished pistons, I actually considered using the longer R16 rods and having the tops of the pistons machined down rather than decking the block. It wouldn't work though, because by the time the pistons were machined enough for clearance, the top ring would have been too close to the top of the piston. Maybe it could be done with custom pistons. Jeremy > As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod was > lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston > (shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams > also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this > case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that > much difference in pin height......... > > Anyone know what these rods weigh? > > Daryl > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jeremymayne@msn.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 10:49:24 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'jeremy mayne'" , , Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:50:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker A lot of work has been done in various forms of racing around tighter ring packs, thinner compression rings, higher positioning of the rings, etc. in an attempt to create the lightest piston and longest rod possible. I've even seen pistons where the oil ring overlaps the piston pin opening. But keep in mind that these are all racing motors that are probably torn down after a few hundred miles of running. The extremes of racing can be fascinating but also surprising in their cost. I remember reading that Top Fuel drag racers throw all their valve springs away after about 8 passes, and these are titanium springs that cost $10,000 a set! And of course they replace the rod and main bearings after every pass. I think it was Kenny Bernstein who said in an interview that they read bearing crush the way most people read spark plugs. Gordon Glasgow From: jeremy mayne [mailto:jeremymayne@msn.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:24 AM To: drlsmith@dccnet.com; gsglasgow@comcast.net; printner@att.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker I also believe the R16 rods are lighter than the U20 (I remember weighing them when I was building my stroker, but I don't remember the weights). They have a more slender beam than the U20s. This was part of my motivation for lightening the U20 rods by about 30 grams each. In an attempt to get a good CR with the forklift dished pistons, I actually considered using the longer R16 rods and having the tops of the pistons machined down rather than decking the block. It wouldn't work though, because by the time the pistons were machined enough for clearance, the top ring would have been too close to the top of the piston. Maybe it could be done with custom pistons. Jeremy > As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod was > lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston > (shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams > also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this > case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that > much difference in pin height......... > > Anyone know what these rods weigh? > > Daryl > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jeremymayne@msn.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 11:07:46 2009 From: "Walter Peterson" To: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:50:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. Anyone use a group 51? Interstate batteries will sell me one of these for less than the standard group 53K. The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has better Cold Cranking Amps. "R" is reversed posts. Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67 chassis? Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 11:13:37 2009 From: RWM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:14:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. I use an Optima 51R in my '68 2000 Solex with a Honda CRV hold-down strap (we have a 51R Optima in the CRV, too). I'm very pleased with Optima performance after three years, though I know some have reported issues. - Bob Mann Walter Peterson wrote: > Anyone use a group 51? Interstate batteries will sell me one of these for > less than the standard group 53K. The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has > better Cold Cranking Amps. "R" is reversed posts. > > Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67 > chassis? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 11:23:31 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Walter Peterson , Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:24:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] long rod (r16) stroker "Maybe it could be done with custom pistons." Not only can be done, it has been done. Walter Peterson stated earlier that he has a race prepped 2L stroker with R16 rods and custom pistons. This question about using the Z piston comes up often, but I don't remember anyone saying they have actually done it. No definitive answer on which piston. IIRC, from my research, I believe you can go down to about 29 mm (1.15") pin height before the pin will start to intersect with the oil ring. Daryl From: jeremy mayne I also believe the R16 rods are lighter than the U20 (I remember weighing them when I was building my stroker, but I don't remember the weights). They have a more slender beam than the U20s. This was part of my motivation for lightening the U20 rods by about 30 grams each. In an attempt to get a good CR with the forklift dished pistons, I actually considered using the longer R16 rods and having the tops of the pistons machined down rather than decking the block. It wouldn't work though, because by the time the pistons were machined enough for clearance, the top ring would have been too close to the top of the piston. Maybe it could be done with custom pistons. Jeremy > As far as the rods go though I was under the impression that the R16 rod was > lighter than the U20 rod, and that the shorter piston > (shorter pin height because of the longer rod) should save a few grams > also....??? The pistons in this case would be about 8 mm shorter in this > case for the long rod stroker. I would expect a reduced weight with that > much difference in pin height......... > > Anyone know what these rods weigh? > > Daryl > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 11:29:29 2009 From: "MH" To: "Walter Peterson" , Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:28:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. I use a Group 51R. Positive post is nearest and to the rear of the engine . I think it's a good size for it's capacity. I also use a GM 63 amp "one-wire" alternator. On a related issue. I just installed one of those "quick-disconnectors", the one with the green knob you often see in pics from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just wondering. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Peterson" To: Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. > Anyone use a group 51? Interstate batteries will sell me one of these for > less than the standard group 53K. The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has > better Cold Cranking Amps. "R" is reversed posts. > > Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67 > chassis? > > > > > > Walter Peterson > > Goleta Ca, 93117 > > Street driven race motor > > 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. > > 5-Speed & LSD. > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 11:33:08 2009 From: "MH" To: "MH" , "Walter Peterson" Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:32:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. Update to my previous reply: Since it's relevant, I also use a gear reduction starter, and electric fan. No tunes.........yet. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "MH" To: "Walter Peterson" ; Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. > I use a Group 51R. Positive post is nearest and to the rear of the engine . > I think it's a good size for it's capacity. I also use a GM 63 amp > "one-wire" alternator. On a related issue. I just installed one of those > "quick-disconnectors", the one with the green knob you often see in pics > from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while > driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just > wondering. > Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-Speed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walter Peterson" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:50 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. > > > > Anyone use a group 51? Interstate batteries will sell me one of these for > > less than the standard group 53K. The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has > > better Cold Cranking Amps. "R" is reversed posts. > > > > Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67 > > chassis? > > > > > > > > > > > > Walter Peterson > > > > Goleta Ca, 93117 > > > > Street driven race motor > > > > 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. > > > > 5-Speed & LSD. > > ________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.51/2052 - Release Date: 04/10/09 06:39:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 12:08:10 2009 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:08:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 12:50:43 2009 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. i've used those on several cars for several years with no issues. i might add on a car with a very tight suspension. --- On Fri, 4/10/09, MH wrote: From: MH Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. To: "Walter Peterson" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 11:28 AM I use a Group 51R. Positive post is nearest and to the rear of the engine . I think it's a good size for it's capacity. I also use a GM 63 amp "one-wire" alternator. On a related issue. I just installed one of those "quick-disconnectors", the one with the green knob you often see in pics from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just wondering. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-Speed ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 13:11:29 2009 From: RWM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:11:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 14:24:15 2009 From: RWM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:24:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. Same here on the '68 2000 Solex: Optima 51R AGM battery, TSI gear reduction starter, 14" Spal fan, Boone EI/distributor, MSD coil, no tunes (too loud!) MH wrote: > Update to my previous reply: Since it's relevant, I also use a gear > reduction starter, and electric fan. No tunes.........yet. > Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-Speed > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MH" > To: "Walter Peterson" ; > > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. > > > >> I use a Group 51R. Positive post is nearest and to the rear of the engine >> > . > >> I think it's a good size for it's capacity. I also use a GM 63 amp >> "one-wire" alternator. On a related issue. I just installed one of those >> "quick-disconnectors", the one with the green knob you often see in pics >> from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while >> driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just >> wondering. >> Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-Speed >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Walter Peterson" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:50 AM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries again. 51R & 96 Integra hold down strap. >> >> >> >>> Anyone use a group 51? Interstate batteries will sell me one of these >>> > for > >>> less than the standard group 53K. The 51 is smaller, weighs less & has >>> better Cold Cranking Amps. "R" is reversed posts. >>> >>> Or asked another way, what's the common battery upgrade for the early 67 >>> chassis? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Walter Peterson >>> >>> Goleta Ca, 93117 >>> >>> Street driven race motor >>> >>> 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. >>> >>> 5-Speed & LSD. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 16:28:24 2009 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if it weren't for the 260Z. I know that's no excuse. But I've seen him before, weaving through the heavy traffic and then taking a death (and speeding ticket) defying leap for it when traffic gets light after the airport turnoff. And my wife took her car to work today, so I was in the Datsun and . . . listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W) pressure got to be too much and I blew a great big oil leak (I haven't cleaned up the mess so I can't report what blew) although there is no signs of any internal engine problems. There are two possible lessons take away from this: 1) I should learn to drive more cautiously 2) I should put something on the engine to blead off extra oil pressure. Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't likely to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do control oil pressure under heavy load. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 16:45:57 2009 From: "Joe Russo" To: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:46:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Batteries again. Quick Disconnect I have run the quick disconnect knob type for many years on different sports cars. Triumphs and Datsuns. I have on my roadster for years. It works great for me - never a problem while driving. It makes it easy to disconnect battery while she's waiting for another ride. Also a little bit of a theft deterrent - until they get the hood open... Joe I just installed one of those "quick-disconnectors", the one with the green knob you often see in pics from the Roadster shows. Any issues about them vibrating loose while driving, etc., etc. They don't use a lock washer under the knob. Just wondering. Mike Hudson - '67 Stroker / 5-Speed ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 17:00:30 2009 From: Eddie To: nmleeds@mindspring.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:00:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo Sounds like one of the three might have been a factor: Too much oil in the engine. Oil was too thick in the engine RPM's were just too high. My guess? #2. nmleeds@mindspring.com wrote: > I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if it weren't for the 260Z. I know that's no excuse. But I've seen him before, weaving through the heavy traffic and then taking a death (and speeding ticket) defying leap for it when traffic gets light after the airport turnoff. And my wife took her car to work today, so I was in the Datsun and . . . > > listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W) pressure got to be too much and I blew a great big oil leak (I haven't cleaned up the mess so I can't report what blew) although there is no signs of any internal engine problems. > > There are two possible lessons take away from this: 1) I should learn to drive more cautiously 2) I should put something on the engine to blead off extra oil pressure. > > Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't likely to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do control oil pressure under heavy load. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 17:40:01 2009 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: nmleeds@mindspring.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:40:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo > ...I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do > control oil pressure under heavy load. Please don't take this wrong, but you're not looking at the problem from the right angle. Nissan didn't build an engine that couldn't redline if everything was in good order. This is no "over-pressure" problem. Rather, there's a "these parts are too worn" problem. Something blew not because pressure was too high but because something was too worn. And I suspect your rubber oil pressure gauge hose is what let go. That, or the oil filter :-) Rule of thumb for expected pressure: 10 PSI per 1000 RPM. CAVEAT: The oil pump has an internal pressure regulator that MAY have stuck. I really doubt it, but it's a possibility. BTW, that's the answer to your initial question (how to control pressure): there's already a pressure regulator in there. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 17:56:19 2009 From: "Brian Hollands" To: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:19:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo Or a Fram Oil Filter... ________________________________ Brian Hollands '69 2000 Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- Sounds like one of the three might have been a factor: Too much oil in the engine. Oil was too thick in the engine RPM's were just too high. My guess? #2. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 17:59:38 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:00:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo The key question is, where was the leak? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of nmleeds@mindspring.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 2:29 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if it weren't for the 260Z. I know that's no excuse. But I've seen him before, weaving through the heavy traffic and then taking a death (and speeding ticket) defying leap for it when traffic gets light after the airport turnoff. And my wife took her car to work today, so I was in the Datsun and . . . listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W) pressure got to be too much and I blew a great big oil leak (I haven't cleaned up the mess so I can't report what blew) although there is no signs of any internal engine problems. There are two possible lessons take away from this: 1) I should learn to drive more cautiously 2) I should put something on the engine to blead off extra oil pressure. Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't likely to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do control oil pressure under heavy load. Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 18:34:30 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: bhollan4@tampabay.rr.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:32:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo The other day when I was in? Autozone auto parts store getting a radiator hose , a guy came in, all greasy, holding a orange Fram filter that was accordioned and gashed with the resulting leakage. I think he was looking for his money back. What an advertisement for what NOT to buy. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hollands To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo Or a Fram Oil Filter... ________________________________ Brian Hollands '69 2000 Tampa, FL - ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 20:47:42 2009 From: Eddie To: turbored Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:47:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... Hey all, Does anyone know if this is the case? Would like to know before I order an adapter... Does the 240Z adapter fit properly? Thanks. Eddie turbored wrote: > Linda, > > doesn't the 240z one mess up the splines, because it's close but still > off a bit? > > best, > drew > > On Apr 9, 2009, at 7:32 AM, ljordan704@netscape.net wrote: > >> Eddie, >> Are you doing a Grant wheel or Momo? The Momo adapter that will work >> is for the 240Z #3503. The Roadster #3500 is NLA. >> I have another adapter that didn't work for me but you are welcome to >> try it. >> >> Linda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Eddie >> To: Gary and Cindy Ault >> Cc: Datsun Roadster List >> Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:12 pm >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The later and earlier columns use the same spline for the steering >> wheel. ? >> >> I'm actually told that Nissan used the same spline configuration for ALL >> of their cars for many years...? >> ? >> >> Will let you know what I find out. :-)? >> ? >> >> Eddie? >> ? >> >> Gary and Cindy Ault wrote:? >> >>> Eddie,? >> >>> ? >> >>> I am not sure abaout the later (collapsible) steering columns, but I >>> don't think adapters for other wheels will fit the early columns. If >>> there is one, I'd like to know.? >> >>> ? >> >>> Grants used to make an adapter for early roadster. but they no longer >>> have the tooling.? >> >>> ? >> >>> Gary? >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" ? >> >>> To: "Datsun Roadster List" ? >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:02 PM? >> >>> Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel information needed...? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>>> Hi all,? >> >>>> ? >> >>>> I'm going to put an aftermarket steering wheel in my roadster, and >>>> wanted to know if anyone else who has done this knows if other Nissan >>>> cars use the same spline configuration on the steering shaft..? >> >>>> ? >> >>>> Anyone?? >> >>>> Thanks...? >> >>>> ________________________________________? >> >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >> >>>> ? >> >>>> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net? >> >>>> ? >> >>>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list? >> >>>> ? >> >>>> http://www.team.net/archive? >> >>>> ? >> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________? >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >> ? >> >> You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? >> ? >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list? >> ? >> >> http://www.team.net/archive? >> ? >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as turbored@gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 11 01:16:31 2009 From: "Fred Schroeder" To: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:17:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo Another possibility is the hose going to the distributor. Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2@schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if it weren't for the 260Z. I know that's no excuse. But I've seen him before, weaving through the heavy traffic and then taking a death (and speeding ticket) defying leap for it when traffic gets light after the airport turnoff. And my wife took her car to work today, so I was in the Datsun and . . . listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W) pressure got to be too much and I blew a great big oil leak (I haven't cleaned up the mess so I can't report what blew) although there is no signs of any internal engine problems. There are two possible lessons take away from this: 1) I should learn to drive more cautiously 2) I should put something on the engine to blead off extra oil pressure. Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't likely to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do control oil pressure under heavy load. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as roadster2@schroeder-family.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 11 07:30:50 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: roadster2@schroeder-family.us, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:31:28 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo The only way to build enough oil pressure to damage something is for the oil pressure regulator built into the oil pump to fail. Normally this is a problem when the engine is first started. Does your gauge read unusually high at high engine speed? The most likely failure is the oil line going to the distributor. My second choice would be the gauge line or sender (I don't remember what it has for sure). The third would be the oil filter being loose or over tightened. Please let us know what you find. keith In a message dated 4/10/2009 11:18:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, roadster2@schroeder-family.us writes: Another possibility is the hose going to the distributor. Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2@schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo I probably won't have happened on my morning commute if it weren't for the 260Z. I know that's no excuse. But I've seen him before, weaving through the heavy traffic and then taking a death (and speeding ticket) defying leap for it when traffic gets light after the airport turnoff. And my wife took her car to work today, so I was in the Datsun and . . . listmates, you'll be happy to hear that by b-cam SU '69 2000 blew his socks off until, at 6700 RPM's the oil (20-50W) pressure got to be too much and I blew a great big oil leak (I haven't cleaned up the mess so I can't report what blew) although there is no signs of any internal engine problems. There are two possible lessons take away from this: 1) I should learn to drive more cautiously 2) I should put something on the engine to blead off extra oil pressure. Since lesson 1 is a new trick this old (actually mid-30's) dog isn't likely to learn, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestions for what to do control oil pressure under heavy load. You are subscribed as roadster2@schroeder-family.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. 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Autozone auto parts store getting a radiator hose , a guy came in, all greasy, holding a orange Fram filter that was accordioned and gashed with the resulting leakage. I think he was looking for his money back. What an advertisement for what NOT to buy. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hollands To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 6700 RPM's 5th Gear and ooh noo Or a Fram Oil Filter... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 11 19:51:04 2009 From: "Fergus OFarrell" To: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:51:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] RE; adaptors: Grant or Mome: steering wheels Eddie, sorry, I get the digest version, so I am a little behind. You never answered the Grant vs Momo question. If you are NOT going Momo, the Grant 4581 is the adaptor, Has a 2.5-3" deep adaptor, so no dish in the wheel is best. Horn button can be made to work fine, with a little bit of bending / tweaking of the brass followers for the horn grounding. The canceling turn signal feature works fine. Now, that being said, 13" makes steering at low speeds a bit tougher, depends on your driving. better knee room than 14". When I went to similar size tires, but different brand, 185/65's now, used to be 185/75's, I found steering 50% easier, at least at freeway / normal driving speeds, twisties are a bit of a workout. (but, I found at speeds, 185s PLOW, so I am going to go to 195s whenever I get the chance..) Best fit for your needs? I'd say come to Solvang, sit in cars, if not able to come, then get a 13" to clear the knees. Worst off, you straighten up the seat and drive more with your shoulders (which is best off for the twisties anyway) Fergus O 69 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 11 19:56:38 2009 From: "Nathaniel Leeds" To: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:56:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] High RPMs -- How do I get them? Now that my little 6700 rpm, 240Z, high speed oil slick adventure is behind me (it was the oil pan deciding that it was a good time to teach me to use loc-tight when putting on an oil pan) I have been thinking about getting back into the high RPMs again. Not knowing much, I did a web search, and noticed that a lot of race cars do things to their lubrication systems and that also a lot or race cars have really high red-lines. Are the two connected? And, more importantly, what can I do with my stock engine to push the redline higher? Has anyone had any experience with accumulators and fancy lubrication systems that they would like to share. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 11 20:24:36 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:25:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] High RPMs -- How do I get them? > Nathaniel Leeds > Now that my little 6700 rpm, 240Z, high speed oil slick adventure is behind > me (it was the oil pan deciding that it was a good time to teach me to use > loc-tight when putting on an oil pan) I have been thinking about getting > back into the high RPMs again. > > Not knowing much, I did a web search, and noticed that a lot of race cars do > things to their lubrication systems and that also a lot or race cars have > really high red-lines. B Are the two connected? B And, more importantly, what > can I do with my stock engine to push the redline higher? > > Has anyone had any experience with accumulators and fancy lubrication > systems that they would like to share. The race cars you're reading about have high redlines because the engines are built and set up for max power, which in small displacement engines comes at the expense of low and mid range power and torque. You really don't need or want to do this on a street oriented engine. On a street or even a street/track car you want a strong low end because that's where the engines going to operate most of the time. After the initial bloom has worn off the newness of a high revver (usually about 30 minutes!) you'll hate it. The car will be hard to get moving and will be gutless. Trust me, BTDT. As far as the oil systems are concerned, in a car that experience high G loads you need to do everything you can to keep the oil pickup submerged in oil so you don't loose oil pressure and/or run the bearings dry. All sorts of bad things occur when that happen, all of them expensive. That's one of the primary reason for the accumulators. They maintain oil pressure for a short period of time if the oil pump can't. Bottom line, on a primarily street driven car you want low and mid range torque, not high RPM horsepower, and if you have a properly working stock oil pump, your pan is in good shape and the oil level is where it should be you don't need to worry about an accumulator. HTH, Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 11 20:30:19 2009 From: Eddie To: Fergus OFarrell Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:31:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] RE; adaptors: Grant or Mome: steering wheels Fergus, The Grant adapter looks like it only works with Grant wheels. The Momo adapter has the standard 6 screw setup most aftermarket wheels come with. (Grant looks like it uses 5 screws) If I get my car together and finished by Solvang, I'll try to make it. Not sure if that's going to happen. There's still a small list of stuff to do, but the car is 95% done. It's all the little jinky stuff that's left that takes time... Eddie Fergus OFarrell wrote: > Eddie, > sorry, I get the digest version, so I am a little behind. You never answered > the Grant vs Momo question. > > If you are NOT going Momo, the Grant 4581 is the adaptor, Has a 2.5-3" deep > adaptor, so no dish in the wheel is best. Horn button can be made to work > fine, with a little bit of bending / tweaking of the brass followers for the > horn grounding. The canceling turn signal feature works fine. > > Now, that being said, 13" makes steering at low speeds a bit tougher, depends > on your driving. better knee room than 14". When I went to similar size > tires, but different brand, 185/65's now, used to be 185/75's, I found > steering 50% easier, at least at freeway / normal driving speeds, twisties are > a bit of a workout. (but, I found at speeds, 185s PLOW, so I am going to go > to 195s whenever I get the chance..) > > Best fit for your needs? I'd say come to Solvang, sit in cars, if not able to > come, then get a 13" to clear the knees. Worst off, you straighten up the > seat and drive more with your shoulders (which is best off for the twisties > anyway) > > Fergus O > 69 2000 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 11 21:20:42 2009 From: Ron Hamilton To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:21:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] RE; adaptors: Grant or Mome: steering wheels Momo wheel 6 hole pattern is NOT universal. Each wheel supplier has their own size so you will buy the adapter. Grant also made some 6 hole patterns but they don't come close to momo if memory serves me. Ron Eddie wrote: > Fergus, > > The Grant adapter looks like it only works with Grant wheels. > The Momo adapter has the standard 6 screw setup most aftermarket > wheels come with. (Grant looks like it uses 5 screws) > > If I get my car together and finished by Solvang, I'll try to make > it. Not sure if that's going to happen. There's still a small list > of stuff to do, but the car is 95% done. It's all the little jinky > stuff that's left that takes time... > > Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 14:37:36 2009 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car hi everyone i need to know the weight of my car (not of roadsters in general). i live in northeast los angeles, and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the greater LA basin. anyone know where i could take it to weigh it? anyone have scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds? thanks in advance steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 15:36:45 2009 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'steven boortz'" , "'roadsters'" Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:37:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] weighing my car Check here: http://dmvscales.com/ Enter your Zip code and it will find a place for you. Also I Googled Car Scales Los Angeles, and found tons. I've used CAT (Truckers) Scales. Walter Peterson Goleta Ca, 93117 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:32 PM To: roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car hi everyone i need to know the weight of my car (not of roadsters in general). i live in northeast los angeles, and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the greater LA basin. anyone know where i could take it to weigh it? anyone have scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds? thanks in advance steve 675MIZU You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 15:52:06 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: , , Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:47:26 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] weighing my car I agree, just drive onto any trucker scale: http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1194079944058696712FCAeoB http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2817298010058696712gOoxpf Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 > From: Walter.Peterson@cox.net > To: vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:37:01 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] weighing my car > > Check here: http://dmvscales.com/ Enter your Zip code and it will find a > place for you. > Also I Googled Car Scales Los Angeles, and found tons. I've used CAT > (Truckers) Scales. > > > Walter Peterson > Goleta Ca, 93117 > Street driven race motor > 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. > 5-Speed & LSD. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:32 PM > To: roadsters > Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car > > hi everyone > i need to know the weight of my car (not of roadsters in general). i live > in northeast los angeles, and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the > greater LA basin. anyone know where i could take it to weigh it? anyone > have scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds? > thanks in advance > steve > 675MIZU > You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as alvingogi@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 15:53:16 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:54:10 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting-San Jose, Ca I remember seeing this roadster while out for a walk in the neighborhood ~last year. We took the roadster out today and I tried driving in the same area and the same roadster was out in the driveway! It's a '69 SRl with a hardtop, anyone on here? http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2959965750103926530fSVbGD Requisite pretty weather photo, it was a nice day! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2218975840103926530zGZurC Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Stor age1_042009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 16:53:25 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:50:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting-San Jose, Ca Ya shoulda knocked on the door, or at least left a card. Very nice pic -- raining here. Of course, in a few months those hills will be brown and then we'll have the sun and greenery. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alvin gogineni Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:54 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting-San Jose, Ca I remember seeing this roadster while out for a walk in the neighborhood ~last year. We took the roadster out today and I tried driving in the same area and the same roadster was out in the driveway! It's a '69 SRl with a hardtop, anyone on here? http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2959965750103926530fSVbGD Requisite pretty weather photo, it was a nice day! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2218975840103926530zGZurC Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 20:40:12 2009 From: Mike Faggart To: steven boortz Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:29:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] weighing my car You can always take it to a moving company, they have scales that weigh trucks. Also, any truck stop with a scale, should cost you around $7-10. mike faggart seroc 68 2L On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 3:32 PM, steven boortz < vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com> wrote: > hi everyone > i need to know the weight of my car (not of roadsters in general). i live > in northeast los angeles, and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the > greater LA basin. anyone know where i could take it to weigh it? anyone > have scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds? > thanks in advance > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikefaggart@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Mike Faggart ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 22:13:46 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:55:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical Issues Hey all, Ok, so here's my latest dilemma.... Car is 95% done, so much that I COULD make it to Solvang, but not sure if I will. I'm dealing with the electrical stuff. Brand new Kwik Wire system. I've got the old wire harness, and the electrical schematics.. and NOTHING matches.. lol The schematic shows 6 wires coming from the alternator, including the ground. My alternator only had 4 wires... can't tell if one is a ground. The schematic for the voltage reg shows 5 wires. My aftermarket volt reg has 5 wires... plus, since I pulled the entire wiring harness from the car as a unit, I can easily re-wire the alt to the volt reg as it was before. Problem is, where to put the "kwik wires" into the system. If there is anyone knowledgeable about the wiring systems for these cars, please email off list.. Thanks. Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 22:28:56 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:57:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil Hi folks, Ok, anyone recommend a good Ignition Coil for thse vehicles? I've got points in it now, but MAY convert to HEI. Can I use the same coil? What's the best way to do this? Thanks. Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 23:09:01 2009 From: "oliver" To: Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:09:34 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an aftermarket replacement unit? the new ones are all electric, right? so there has to be some kind of converter? thanks! btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for everything else. i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 23:18:06 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:22:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition coil I remember this being discussed many times. IIRC, the short answer is no. Different coils for points and HEI. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:57 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition coil Hi folks, Ok, anyone recommend a good Ignition Coil for thse vehicles? I've got points in it now, but MAY convert to HEI. Can I use the same coil? What's the best way to do this? Thanks. Eddie Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 23:19:16 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:23:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Don't remember the specifics, but do remember it discussed many times on the 311s.org forums. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:10 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an aftermarket replacement unit? the new ones are all electric, right? so there has to be some kind of converter? thanks! btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for everything else. i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 23:24:10 2009 From: "Peter Harrison" To: "Eddie" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:24:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition coil Recent experience Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure that you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil that worked fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried ignition - now ok Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 23:55:46 2009 From: Eddie To: Peter Harrison Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:56:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition coil Wait a sec, I'm confused... Someone else sent me this info: "just to clarify, if you remove the resistor, you can use the same ignition coil for points and hei. " So, which is it? Eddie Peter Harrison wrote: > Recent experience > > Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure > that you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil > that worked fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried > ignition - now ok > > Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 00:08:38 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: oliver , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:09:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 You can still get the mechanical speedo's, and possibly the tach as well. As Pete says there is, IIRC a thread, with pictures, on 311s.org. If you wanted to go all electric, the Classic Instruments 'hot rod' series has been used in quite a few roadsters and is quite similar to the early roadster gauges, but is all electronic, and you may have to do some minor fabricating for the speedo, unless one of the later electronic sending units will bolt in. It would probably look best if you got a complete set of gauges.........ie: match the ones you are already installing........?? Daryl '66 with Classic Instruments gauges. ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:09 PM Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 > what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an > aftermarket replacement unit? > > the new ones are all electric, right? so there has to be some kind of > converter? > > thanks! > > btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for > everything else. i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now > i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 00:15:27 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Eddie , Peter Harrison Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:16:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition coil Points - needs ballast resistor Pertronix - needs ballast resistor EI dizzy with stock coil - needs ballast resistor EI dizzy with 12V coil - NO ballast resistor Stock or EI dizzy with MSD/Crane etc. and 12V coil - NO ballast resistor (I don't think a stock coil would be wise with this setup so don't even try it!) Clear enough?? Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" > Wait a sec, I'm confused... > > Someone else sent me this info: > > "just to clarify, if you remove the resistor, you can use the same > ignition coil for points and hei. " > > So, which is it? > Eddie > > > Peter Harrison wrote: >> Recent experience >> >> Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure that >> you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil that >> worked fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried ignition - >> now ok >> >> Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 00:37:08 2009 From: Eddie To: Daryl Smith Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:37:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ignition coil Not exactly.... IE "dizzy"? What's a "dizzy"? Why does the stock coil need a resistor but the 12v does not? Eddie Daryl Smith wrote: > Points - needs ballast resistor > Pertronix - needs ballast resistor > EI dizzy with stock coil - needs ballast resistor > EI dizzy with 12V coil - NO ballast resistor > Stock or EI dizzy with MSD/Crane etc. and 12V coil - NO ballast > resistor (I don't think a stock coil would be wise with this setup so > don't even try it!) > > Clear enough?? > > Daryl > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" > >> Wait a sec, I'm confused... >> >> Someone else sent me this info: >> >> "just to clarify, if you remove the resistor, you can use the same >> ignition coil for points and hei. " >> >> So, which is it? >> Eddie >> >> >> Peter Harrison wrote: >>> Recent experience >>> >>> Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure >>> that you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil >>> that worked fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried >>> ignition - now ok >>> >>> Peter ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 01:38:54 2009 From: Eddie Wu To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, alvin gogineni Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting-San Jose, Ca I think that's the same Roadster I see around my work. If so, the owner is an older guy that works at Lockheed Martin in Sunnyvale. He has left a note on my Roadster and we've chatted about Roadsters over the phone. He's not on the "List" if I remember correctly. Unfortunately, I forget his name. -Eddie --- On Sun, 4/12/09, alvin gogineni wrote: > I remember seeing this roadster while > out for a walk in the neighborhood ~last > year. We took the roadster out today and I tried driving in > the same area and > the same roadster was out in the driveway! It's a '69 SRl > with a hardtop, > anyone on here? > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2959965750103926530fSVbGD ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 08:13:30 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:14:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 You might want to chek out www.egauges.com. They offer a wide variety of brands and styles at good prices. You can probably go either mechanical or electric for the speedo and tach, but mechanical may be tougher to adapt and calibrate. I like the 270 sweep mechanical gauges for oil pressure and temp (if you use one - not a bad idea, btw) and water temp. Using that style lets you see if the readings are in the ballpark with only a quick glance. I used Autometer 2 7/8 Phantom series oil pressure and water temp on my car. > what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an > aftermarket replacement unit? > > the new ones are all electric, right? so there has to be some kind of > converter? > > thanks! > > btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for > everything else. i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now > i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 08:16:06 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: mikefaggart@gmail.com, vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:16:30 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] weighing my car I've weighed vehicles and such at commercial truck scales. The big brand is "CAT" scales. They have a series of scales. The idea being to weigh each set of wheels on a semi separately at the same time. So you can park with the front on one and the back on another and get your front to rear ratio also. keith In a message dated 4/12/2009 6:41:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mikefaggart@gmail.com writes: You can always take it to a moving company, they have scales that weigh trucks. Also, any truck stop with a scale, should cost you around $7-10. mike faggart seroc 68 2L On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 3:32 PM, steven boortz < vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com> wrote: > hi everyone > i need to know the weight of my car (not of roadsters in general). i live > in northeast los angeles, and can drive it pretty much anywhere in the > greater LA basin. anyone know where i could take it to weigh it? anyone > have scales they wouldn't mind my car on for a few seconds? > thanks in advance > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikefaggart@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Mike Faggart You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. 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Daryl Smith wrote:? > Points - needs ballast resistor? > Pertronix - needs ballast resistor? > EI dizzy with stock coil - needs ballast resistor? > EI dizzy with 12V coil - NO ballast resistor? > Stock or EI dizzy with MSD/Crane etc. and 12V coil - NO ballast > resistor (I don't think a stock coil would be wise with this setup so > don't even try it!)? >? > Clear enough??? >? > Daryl? >? >? > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" ? >? >> Wait a sec, I'm confused...? >>? >> Someone else sent me this info:? >>? >> "just to clarify, if you remove the resistor, you can use the same >> ignition coil for points and hei. "? >>? >> So, which is it?? >> Eddie? >>? >>? >> Peter Harrison wrote:? >>> Recent experience? >>>? >>> Depending upon the coil - need ballast resistor - or not - make sure >>> that you specify that you are using electronic - i had a lucas coil >>> that worked fine - when i changed i forget to mention - thus fried >>> ignition - now ok? >>>? >>> Peter? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 09:39:49 2009 From: vulforge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:40:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wiring The short answer is to throw away the old alternator and voltage regulator and install a GM "one-wire" alternator.? The hardest part of that swap is finding a GM alternator without having to have a core to trade.? I do the conversion quick and dirty.? Simply cut down the mounting lug on the alternator with a bandsaw til it lines up the pulleys.? Then a small bend on the stock adjuster bracket and bolt it down.? Nothing changed on the car, so you could always go back to stock if desired.? I have run this conversion on both my 510's and the roadster for many years. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 10:22:42 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:23:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wiring Don't rember what year your car is, but I'd suggest several things. First get a copy of the Auto Electrical Handbook by Jim Horner, published by HP Books (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895862387) and read it cover to cover. Then go to www,311s.org, click on the PMWIKI Tech Section (top item in the left frame), click on Electrical and read the relavant sections regarding alternators and such. Then click on Schematics: Wiring Diagrams and look through those. Jim Bain's done a truly incredible job of creating the color versions and I/we all greatly appreciate them being availble on the site. Select the color one that best fits your car (in its stock condition) and save the PDF to disk or a pin drive, take it to Staples, Kinkos, etc, and have it printed and laminated as large as you can afford. Staple charged me $20 to do a 2 ft x 3 ft for my '70 but it's worth it, IMO. They'll do 11 x 17 for around $2.00, but the larger size is much easier to read. Get yourself a digital volt/ohm meter and a set of leads that includes alligator clips, etc. You're going to have to compare and match the different circuits in the OEM harness with the one you bought. Depending on the number of circuits in the new harness you may not use them all. This is not a simple process, even though it may appear to be. You can get badly hurt and ruin some very expensive bits and pieces if you do the wrong thing. If you're not familiar with DC and some AC electrical theory you might want to reconsider tackling this without someone on hand to walk you through it. Not trying to belittle your abililties, but I'd rather tick you off than see you ruin something or see you get hurt. FWIW, Ron -- Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 11:00:01 2009 From: Eddie To: Ronnie Day Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:00:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wiring Hey Everyone! Thanks for all the advice, suggestion, etc. After a long exchange off list with another roadster owner, it's clear the best option is to simply replace the stock stuff with a GM alternator, so that's what I'm going to do. Simpler, easier, my aftermarket wiring harness is already set up for that, and will be faster. Now I've got TWO roadster Alternators I need to get rid of along with a voltage regulator. One is basically brand new, having been recently rebuilt by a reputable shop, the other is a used unit that worked fine when I took the car apart... Eddie Ronnie Day wrote: > Don't rember what year your car is, but I'd suggest several things. > First get a copy of the Auto Electrical Handbook by Jim Horner, > published by HP Books (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895862387) > and read it cover to cover. Then go to www,311s.org, click on the > PMWIKI Tech Section (top item in the left frame), click on Electrical > and read the relavant sections regarding alternators and such. > > Then click on Schematics: Wiring Diagrams and look through those. Jim > Bain's done a truly incredible job of creating the color versions and > I/we all greatly appreciate them being availble on the site. Select > the color one that best fits your car (in its stock condition) and > save the PDF to disk or a pin drive, take it to Staples, Kinkos, etc, > and have it printed and laminated as large as you can afford. Staple > charged me $20 to do a 2 ft x 3 ft for my '70 but it's worth it, IMO. > They'll do 11 x 17 for around $2.00, but the larger size is much > easier to read. > > Get yourself a digital volt/ohm meter and a set of leads that includes > alligator clips, etc. You're going to have to compare and match the > different circuits in the OEM harness with the one you bought. > Depending on the number of circuits in the new harness you may not use > them all. > > This is not a simple process, even though it may appear to be. You can > get badly hurt and ruin some very expensive bits and pieces if you do > the wrong thing. If you're not familiar with DC and some AC electrical > theory you might want to reconsider tackling this without someone on > hand to walk you through it. Not trying to belittle your abililties, > but I'd rather tick you off than see you ruin something or see you get > hurt. > > FWIW, > Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 17:31:49 2009 From: jeffzster@yahoo.com To: Datsun Roadster Mail Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Important Solvang Announcement Hello All!! Well...early registration is now closed. Thanks to everyone who registered before April 11th. I know how life is though and if you could not register before the 11th, we at the show understand. Kids, past commitments, jobs, etc..all can complicate things at times! This does not mean we don't want you to come though! If you think you still might make it or are going to make it, but just didn't register in time, please let me know so I can get a rough count on everything. We will have a very limited supply of event clothing and Banquet dinner tickets on a first come first serve basis. We will be in Solvang Friday April 24th by 8:00 A.M. and will be staying at the Motel 6 in Buellton. We will also be registering on Friday evening Mendenhall's for all who want to register then. If not, bright and early Saturday morning, the day of the event. Soooo..the countdown is on! See you in two weeks! Thanks to all for the help in getting the word out! Jeff T. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 21:31:18 2009 From: "dave" To: Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:31:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] join ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 01:22:28 2009 From: Gerardo Magana To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: RE; adaptors: Grant or Mome: steering wheels Hello All, The Momo adapters are something we made to fit to the grant adapter, without the CNC version we made the steering wheel position is farther from the dash, the one we made makes it so that it stays close to the column, fits over the grant adapter and looks like the original. I am going to have to find some pictures. Later Gerardo Magana 209-499-9193 www.fairladyparts.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 12:52:50 2009 From: Dan Kroninger To: Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:53:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Security Hey all, I have a general question for everyone. I don't have a car at the moment, but hopefully will soon. I am talking to some other members about road trips this summer and was wondering what everyone does for security. I have seen some people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is not locked in the garage? I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is determined, but there must be some deterrents out there. Do people use "the club" anymore? Let me know what you think. Thanks, Dan _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN5 5C0701A ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 13:03:47 2009 From: Paul Bauman To: Autox Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:05:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security Dan: My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote: > Hey all, > > > > I have a general question for everyone. I don't have a car at the moment, but > hopefully will soon. I am talking to some other members about road trips this > summer and was wondering what everyone does for security. I have seen some > people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any > other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is not > locked in the garage? I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is > determined, but there must be some deterrents out there. Do people use "the > club" anymore? Let me know what you think. > > > > Thanks, > > Dan ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 13:13:05 2009 From: "Stephen Wan" To: "Autox \(E-mail\)" Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:13:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security When I used to store the car at work, I used a club in addition to a brake pedal lock. Then I would use a car cover on top and roll the 4 wheels onto the edges of the cover. I would have to roll the car forward to remove the cover. When it comes to security, it's always better to double up. Make it look like it's more time consuming and riskier than it's worth. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Kroninger" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Security > Hey all, > > > > I have a general question for everyone. I don't have a car at the moment, > but > hopefully will soon. I am talking to some other members about road trips > this > summer and was wondering what everyone does for security. I have seen > some > people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any > other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is > not > locked in the garage? I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is > determined, but there must be some deterrents out there. Do people use > "the > club" anymore? Let me know what you think. > > > > Thanks, > > Dan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.56/2058 - Release Date: 04/14/09 06:17:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 13:13:44 2009 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: Paul Bauman Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:14:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security You can always put a Navy Seal in your trunk... On 4/14/09, Paul Bauman wrote: > > Dan: > > My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than > I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me. > > Paul Bauman > Westminster, CA > 67 1600 > > > On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > I have a general question for everyone. I don't have a car at the > moment, but > > hopefully will soon. I am talking to some other members about road trips > this > > summer and was wondering what everyone does for security. I have seen > some > > people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any > > other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is > not > > locked in the garage? I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is > > determined, but there must be some deterrents out there. Do people use > "the > > club" anymore? Let me know what you think. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 13:18:22 2009 From: Dan Kroninger To: Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:19:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security > When I used to store the car at work, I used a club in addition to a brake > pedal lock. What is a brake pedal lock? It sounds straight forward, but I have never heard of this. How much does a Navy seal go for these days? I assume they are busy fighting hook handed pirates out on the planks _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes1_042009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 13:53:09 2009 From: aybreeze@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Security of your Roadster The safest thing is LO JackB ! B at least you find it before it is very far and usually still in one piece Most thieves looking for rare cars will will use a lift and tow method some side lift with fork lift and put straight into side loading box trailer so it is completly hiddenB all depends on how much they want it ! Keep smiling B B B B Arthur ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 14:15:05 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Paul Bauman'" , "'Autox'" Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:15:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security I used to do this, but one time someone tried to steal the car and managed to run the battery down by continually cranking on it (didn't do the starter any good, either). A somewhat better solution (one that can be used in addition to removing the rotor) is to disconnect the wiring harness connector that goes to the starter. It's hard to see, so not obvious to a would-be thief, and even if he does figure it out, the car still won't start if the rotor is removed. At that point, he's likely to just give up rather than spend any more time messing with it. BTW, a SEAL in the trunk tends to upset the handling balance of the car. An inflatable Jenna Jamieson doll that automatically inflates might cause the perp to forget all about the car, and would weigh considerably less. ;-) Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bauman Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:06 AM To: Autox Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security Dan: My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote: > Hey all, > > > > I have a general question for everyone. I don't have a car at the moment, but > hopefully will soon. I am talking to some other members about road trips this > summer and was wondering what everyone does for security. I have seen some > people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any > other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is not > locked in the garage? I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is > determined, but there must be some deterrents out there. Do people use "the > club" anymore? Let me know what you think. > > > > Thanks, > > Dan Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 14:17:47 2009 From: "oliver" To: "'Autox'" Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:18:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security that was part of the reason i installed the battery in the trunk with a disconnect switch! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Paul Bauman'" ; "'Autox'" Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security >I used to do this, but one time someone tried to steal the car and managed > to run the battery down by continually cranking on it (didn't do the > starter > any good, either). A somewhat better solution (one that can be used in > addition to removing the rotor) is to disconnect the wiring harness > connector that goes to the starter. It's hard to see, so not obvious to a > would-be thief, and even if he does figure it out, the car still won't > start > if the rotor is removed. At that point, he's likely to just give up rather > than spend any more time messing with it. > > BTW, a SEAL in the trunk tends to upset the handling balance of the car. > An > inflatable Jenna Jamieson doll that automatically inflates might cause the > perp to forget all about the car, and would weigh considerably less. ;-) > > Gordon Glasgow > Renton, WA > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bauman > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:06 AM > To: Autox > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security > > Dan: > > My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than > I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me. > > Paul Bauman > Westminster, CA > 67 1600 > > > On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> >> >> I have a general question for everyone. I don't have a car at the >> moment, > but >> hopefully will soon. I am talking to some other members about road trips > this >> summer and was wondering what everyone does for security. I have seen > some >> people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any >> other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is > not >> locked in the garage? I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is >> determined, but there must be some deterrents out there. Do people use > "the >> club" anymore? Let me know what you think. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan > Datsun-roadsters mailing list ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 15:58:20 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Dan Kroninger , Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:58:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security First things first, although I hate to say this, a 40+ year old Roadster should not be your only means of transportation for a variety of really practical reasons. So if you have another means of getting around, don't take your Roadster if the resulting parking situation may be questionable. Consider where you are living and where you will be driving. Car cover. Discourages random vandalism and completely downplays your beautiful Roadster. Ignition cut-out switch. The safety brake test switch on '68s - '70s makes a good one. (Besides, a lot of Roadster owners don't know what that is and even if they do, they have probably never used it anyway.) Common sense. For example, don't take your Roadster to the midnight showing of the Rocky Horror Picture Show or park it on the street overnight. Hope this helps, Greg SRL31100494 On 4/14/09 10:53 AM, "Dan Kroninger" wrote: > Hey all, > > > > I have a general question for everyone. I don't have a car at the moment, but > hopefully will soon. I am talking to some other members about road trips this > summer and was wondering what everyone does for security. I have seen some > people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are there any > other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is not > locked in the garage? I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is > determined, but there must be some deterrents out there. Do people use "the > club" anymore? Let me know what you think. > > > > Thanks, > > Dan > > _________________________________________________________________ > Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet > Explorer 8. > http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN5 > 5C0701A > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 15:59:30 2009 From: Patti Dwinell To: aybreeze@comcast.net Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security of your Roadster Lift and tow?! Fork lift??!! AH, GEEZ!! Now I'm really, really paranoid!! Patti --- On Tue, 4/14/09, aybreeze@comcast.net wrote: From: aybreeze@comcast.net Subject: [Roadsters] Security of your Roadster To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 11:53 AM The safest thing is LO JackB ! B at least you find it before it is very far and usually still in one piece Most thieves looking for rare cars will will use a lift and tow method some side lift with fork lift and put straight into side loading box trailer so it is completly hiddenB all depends on how much they want it ! Keep smiling B B B B Arthur ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 14 19:02:50 2009 From: Eddie To: oliver Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:03:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security I just disconnect the driveshaft any time I'm going to leave the car for more than an hour or two... oliver wrote: > that was part of the reason i installed the battery in the trunk with > a disconnect switch! > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" > > To: "'Paul Bauman'" ; "'Autox'" > > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security > > >> I used to do this, but one time someone tried to steal the car and >> managed >> to run the battery down by continually cranking on it (didn't do the >> starter >> any good, either). A somewhat better solution (one that can be used in >> addition to removing the rotor) is to disconnect the wiring harness >> connector that goes to the starter. It's hard to see, so not obvious >> to a >> would-be thief, and even if he does figure it out, the car still >> won't start >> if the rotor is removed. At that point, he's likely to just give up >> rather >> than spend any more time messing with it. >> >> BTW, a SEAL in the trunk tends to upset the handling balance of the >> car. An >> inflatable Jenna Jamieson doll that automatically inflates might >> cause the >> perp to forget all about the car, and would weigh considerably less. >> ;-) >> >> Gordon Glasgow >> Renton, WA >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul >> Bauman >> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:06 AM >> To: Autox >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Security >> >> Dan: >> >> My car has a mechanical distributor. If I get more parking paranoid than >> I usually am I just pull the rotor and take it with me. >> >> Paul Bauman >> Westminster, CA >> 67 1600 >> >> >> On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:53 -0500, Dan Kroninger wrote: >>> Hey all, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a general question for everyone. I don't have a car at the >>> moment, >> but >>> hopefully will soon. I am talking to some other members about road >>> trips >> this >>> summer and was wondering what everyone does for security. I have seen >> some >>> people who have the battery disconnect switch wired in, but are >>> there any >>> other options on top of that to keep the car safe from theft when it is >> not >>> locked in the garage? I know getting in will be easy for anyone who is >>> determined, but there must be some deterrents out there. Do people use >> "the >>> club" anymore? Let me know what you think. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Dan >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 01:00:23 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:00:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valve cover oil leak.... Ok. how do you get the oil pan off with the engine in the car? I removed all the bolts, loosened the gasket,..... and it'll only drop down about a half inch!!!?? Do you need to remove the header (which is alsmost resting on the oilpan)? (move it to the left?) It seems to be catching on the oil pump(?), but I can't seem to move it in any way to get it past where it catches.....but then there is oil in the pan also, so I'm trying not to spill. I am pulling it apart because it is leaking at the front. I don't see any leaks from the front seal or timing chain cover. I was hoping for a quick drop/cleanup, and re-install. It isn't working that way!!! I've got to get this thing on the road real soon (yesterday would have been nice). Any help appreciated........ Thanks Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 01:18:03 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: drlsmith@dccnet.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:18:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valve cover oil leak.... It came straight off on my 1600 with stock exhaust manifold. Tap with a rubber mallet, and not sure but there may be a couple of studs in the front, otherwise? screws all around. You might want to drain the oil though. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:00 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Valve cover oil leak.... Ok. how do you get the oil pan off with the engine in the car? I removed all the bolts, loosened the gasket,..... and it'll only drop down about a half inch!!!?? Do you need to remove the header (which is alsmost resting on the oilpan)? (move it to the left?) It seems to be catching on the oil pump(?), but I can't seem to move it in any way to get it past where it catches.....but then there is oil in the pan also, so I'm trying not to spill. I am pulling it apart because it is leaking at the front. I don't see any leaks from the front seal or timing chain cover. I was hoping for a quick drop/cleanup, and re-install. It isn't working that way!!! I've got to get this thing on the road real soon (yesterday would have been nice). Any help appreciated........ Thanks Daryl You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 02:26:02 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:26:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth??? Ok, So I'm about to order my top for my car, and i have found a company online that lists the vinyl tops for $319 and the stayfast Cloth for $75 additional. What's the pro's and con's of each? Anyone? Thanks. Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 08:06:19 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:06:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth??? > Eddie > > So I'm about to order my top for my car, and i have found a company online > that lists the vinyl tops for $319 and the stayfast Cloth for $75 > additional. > > What's the pro's and con's of each? > Anyone? I bought the Stayfast canvas and wouldn't hesitate to do so again. I think it looks better, it'll last longer, it shouldn't shrink over time nearly as much as the vinyl (if at all), and it's really not that much more all things considered. FWIW, Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 10:15:47 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:16:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Bring a trailer email list If you don't know about this list, you should jump on, great fun. Bring a Trailer is a email/website produced by the guys at Grassroots, today's features one of ours: http://bringatrailer.com/2009/04/14/bargain-classic-1968-datsun-1600-roadster/ You can check in on the site anytime, or get emailed each day with an update. -bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 11:48:34 2009 From: Eddie To: Ronnie Day Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:49:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth??? Hey Everybody, Thanks for all the emails about which top to use. Stayfast Canvas won hands down. I was concerned about the "waterproofness" of the canvas, but I guess it's ok, so no worries. Seems the canvas looks better, lasts longer, and is overall nicer, so that's what I'm going to order! Eddie Ronnie Day wrote: >> Eddie >> >> So I'm about to order my top for my car, and i have found a company online >> that lists the vinyl tops for $319 and the stayfast Cloth for $75 >> additional. >> >> What's the pro's and con's of each? >> Anyone? >> > > I bought the Stayfast canvas and wouldn't hesitate to do so again. I > think it looks better, it'll last longer, it shouldn't shrink over > time nearly as much as the vinyl (if at all), and it's really not that > much more all things considered. > > FWIW, > Ron > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 16:31:54 2009 From: vulforge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:32:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Stayfast top I have the Stayfast top, and recommend it.? Also get the zip-down rear window option.? Lets you open up the back and keep shade overhead. Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 19:55:26 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Ronnie Day" , "Roadster List" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:54:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth??? Eddie, I'm happy with the Stayfast top on my car. From previous messages I have read, they seem to enjoy a good reputation among the roadster crowd. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Day" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rag Top Options... Vinyl or Stayfast Cloth??? >> Eddie >> >> So I'm about to order my top for my car, and i have found a company >> online >> that lists the vinyl tops for $319 and the stayfast Cloth for $75 >> additional. >> >> What's the pro's and con's of each? >> Anyone? > > I bought the Stayfast canvas and wouldn't hesitate to do so again. I > think it looks better, it'll last longer, it shouldn't shrink over > time nearly as much as the vinyl (if at all), and it's really not that > much more all things considered. > > FWIW, > Ron > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 23:57:32 2009 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks hi everyone i'm ready to install new shocks in the front. i heard someone once say that installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick. is it? why? thanks in advance steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 00:49:16 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'steven boortz'" , "'roadsters'" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:49:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks A very small reduction in unsprung weight, but not all shocks are designed such that they can be mounted upside-down. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:58 PM To: roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks hi everyone i'm ready to install new shocks in the front. i heard someone once say that installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick. is it? why? thanks in advance steve 675MIZU Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 06:33:45 2009 From: Tim To: 'steven boortz' , Gordon Glasgow Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 4:34:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? Is there and easy way to determine if the new shocks can be mounted upside down? Or for a car that most likely will never be autocrossed (at least not in the forseeable future), is it even worth it to do this with the shocks? Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Gordon Glasgow wrote: ============= A very small reduction in unsprung weight, but not all shocks are designed such that they can be mounted upside-down. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:58 PM To: roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks hi everyone i'm ready to install new shocks in the front. i heard someone once say that installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick. is it? why? thanks in advance steve 675MIZU Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 11:20:54 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Tim'" , "'steven boortz'" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:19:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? I doubt if it is worth it, even for an autocrosser. The basic idea is that, with the standard shock and mounting, the main body of the shock (which constitutes most of the weight of the shock) is attached to the A-arm. This makes it mostly unsprung weight, reduced almost 50% by the motion ratio of the A-arm. Mounting it upside down makes that weight sprung weight. The front shocks on a roadster could be easily reversed since the mounting is the same at both ends. The rears are another matter. The bottom mount is a stud, but the top mount is a ring. So you'd have to modify both mounts on the frame and spring shock mount plate to do it. If you're going to go that far, why not just get a set of Penske remote-reservoir shocks? I think the only way to know if a shock can be mounted upside down is to contact the manufacturer. A shock only weighs a couple of pounds. You can get more improvement by choosing lighter wheels, since the wheel is 100% unsprung weight. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:34 AM To: 'steven boortz'; Gordon Glasgow; 'roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? Is there and easy way to determine if the new shocks can be mounted upside down? Or for a car that most likely will never be autocrossed (at least not in the forseeable future), is it even worth it to do this with the shocks? Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Gordon Glasgow wrote: ============= A very small reduction in unsprung weight, but not all shocks are designed such that they can be mounted upside-down. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven boortz Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:58 PM To: roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks hi everyone i'm ready to install new shocks in the front. i heard someone once say that installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick. is it? why? thanks in advance steve 675MIZU Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 11:40:02 2009 From: Pat Horne To: steven boortz Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:39:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] "old racing tricks" - upside down front shocks An easy way to determine if the shock can be installed upside down is to put the bottom end of the shock against the floor or bench and compress it a few times. This will be any air out of the cylinder. When you can push and pull the shock and not feel any discontinuity in its movement you are ready to try the same thing with the shock upside down. If you don't detect any difference in movement then it shouldn't be a problem to mount it upside down, but as others have said, check with the manufacture, there may be something that will cause trouble later. Peace, Pat Thusly spake steven boortz, On 4/15/2009 11:58 PM: > hi everyone > i'm ready to install new shocks in the front. i heard someone once say that installing the front shocks upside-down was an old racing trick. is it? why? > thanks in advance > steve > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 12:20:27 2009 From: Jerry Krakauer To: Gordon Glasgow , 'Tim' Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:20:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? Not good for handling. The jounce/rebound ratio for shocks is usually not close to 50/50 thus installing upside down would reverse the ratio. The only time I've heard of people doing this in the past was for drag cars in order to help weight transfer to the rear by allowing the front end to quickly move upward on acceleration. That's usually done now with specialized front drag shocks that have very weak rebound. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Tim'" ; "'steven boortz'" ; "'roadsters'" Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? >I doubt if it is worth it, even for an autocrosser. The basic idea is that, > with the standard shock and mounting, the main body of the shock (which > constitutes most of the weight of the shock) is attached to the A-arm. > This > makes it mostly unsprung weight, reduced almost 50% by the motion ratio of > the > A-arm. Mounting it upside down makes that weight sprung weight. > > The front shocks on a roadster could be easily reversed since the mounting > is > the same at both ends. The rears are another matter. The bottom mount is a > stud, but the top mount is a ring. So you'd have to modify both mounts on > the > frame and spring shock mount plate to do it. If you're going to go that > far, > why not just get a set of Penske remote-reservoir shocks? > > I think the only way to know if a shock can be mounted upside down is to > contact the manufacturer. > > A shock only weighs a couple of pounds. You can get more improvement by > choosing lighter wheels, since the wheel is 100% unsprung weight. > > Gordon Glasgow ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 12:56:44 2009 From: Eddie To: Pete Peters Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:50:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 An electric distributor runs off of one wire that's attached to the coil. It's pretty simple. I'm not sure if the hook up on the distributor for the old manual tach would need to be "capped" or anything. Someone else here might know that... Eddie Pete Peters wrote: > Don't remember the specifics, but do remember it discussed many times on the > 311s.org forums. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:10 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 > > what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an > aftermarket replacement unit? > > the new ones are all electric, right? so there has to be some kind of > converter? > > thanks! > > btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for > everything else. i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but now > i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 13:03:45 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Jerry Krakauer'" , "'Tim'" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:02:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? I don't understand this. Jounce is compression, rebound is extension. The shock will be compressing under the same circumstances whether it is right-side up or upside down. The drag racers use (or at least used to use) what were called 90/10 shocks, which had only 10 percent resistance on extension and 90 percent on compression. They were also called "up-lock" shocks. I think they first appeared in the early 1960's. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Krakauer [mailto:jsk977@optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:21 AM To: Gordon Glasgow; 'Tim'; 'steven boortz'; 'roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? Not good for handling. The jounce/rebound ratio for shocks is usually not close to 50/50 thus installing upside down would reverse the ratio. The only time I've heard of people doing this in the past was for drag cars in order to help weight transfer to the rear by allowing the front end to quickly move upward on acceleration. That's usually done now with specialized front drag shocks that have very weak rebound. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Tim'" ; "'steven boortz'" ; "'roadsters'" Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? >I doubt if it is worth it, even for an autocrosser. The basic idea is that, > with the standard shock and mounting, the main body of the shock (which > constitutes most of the weight of the shock) is attached to the A-arm. > This > makes it mostly unsprung weight, reduced almost 50% by the motion ratio of > the > A-arm. Mounting it upside down makes that weight sprung weight. > > The front shocks on a roadster could be easily reversed since the mounting > is > the same at both ends. The rears are another matter. The bottom mount is a > stud, but the top mount is a ring. So you'd have to modify both mounts on > the > frame and spring shock mount plate to do it. If you're going to go that > far, > why not just get a set of Penske remote-reservoir shocks? > > I think the only way to know if a shock can be mounted upside down is to > contact the manufacturer. > > A shock only weighs a couple of pounds. You can get more improvement by > choosing lighter wheels, since the wheel is 100% unsprung weight. > > Gordon Glasgow ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 14:19:51 2009 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'Gordon Glasgow'" , "'Jerry Krakauer'" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:15:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? I always drive while in an Inverted state, so the shocks work just fine. :) Walt Peterson -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:02 AM To: 'Jerry Krakauer'; 'Tim'; 'steven boortz'; 'roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? I don't understand this. Jounce is compression, rebound is extension. The shock will be compressing under the same circumstances whether it is right-side up or upside down. The drag racers use (or at least used to use) what were called 90/10 shocks, which had only 10 percent resistance on extension and 90 percent on compression. They were also called "up-lock" shocks. I think they first appeared in the early 1960's. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Krakauer [mailto:jsk977@optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:21 AM To: Gordon Glasgow; 'Tim'; 'steven boortz'; 'roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? Not good for handling. The jounce/rebound ratio for shocks is usually not close to 50/50 thus installing upside down would reverse the ratio. The only time I've heard of people doing this in the past was for drag cars in order to help weight transfer to the rear by allowing the front end to quickly move upward on acceleration. That's usually done now with specialized front drag shocks that have very weak rebound. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Tim'" ; "'steven boortz'" ; "'roadsters'" Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down front shocks--is it worth it? >I doubt if it is worth it, even for an autocrosser. The basic idea is that, > with the standard shock and mounting, the main body of the shock (which > constitutes most of the weight of the shock) is attached to the A-arm. > This > makes it mostly unsprung weight, reduced almost 50% by the motion ratio of > the > A-arm. Mounting it upside down makes that weight sprung weight. > > The front shocks on a roadster could be easily reversed since the mounting > is > the same at both ends. The rears are another matter. The bottom mount is a > stud, but the top mount is a ring. So you'd have to modify both mounts on > the > frame and spring shock mount plate to do it. If you're going to go that > far, > why not just get a set of Penske remote-reservoir shocks? > > I think the only way to know if a shock can be mounted upside down is to > contact the manufacturer. > > A shock only weighs a couple of pounds. You can get more improvement by > choosing lighter wheels, since the wheel is 100% unsprung weight. > > Gordon Glasgow You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 15:38:20 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Eddie" , "Pete Peters" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:37:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Yes, the tach cable take-off would need to be capped. With the cable in place, there is a seal in the connection which prevents (usually) oil from the distributor lubrication system from leaking into or from the cable. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Pete Peters" Cc: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 > An electric distributor runs off of one wire that's attached to the coil. > It's pretty simple. > I'm not sure if the hook up on the distributor for the old manual tach > would need to be "capped" or anything. Someone else here might know > that... > > Eddie > > Pete Peters wrote: >> Don't remember the specifics, but do remember it discussed many times on >> the >> 311s.org forums. >> >> Pete >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver >> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:10 PM >> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 >> >> what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an >> aftermarket replacement unit? >> >> the new ones are all electric, right? so there has to be some kind of >> converter? >> >> thanks! >> >> btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for >> everything else. i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach but >> now >> i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. Datsun-roadsters >> mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 16:40:39 2009 From: vulforge@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:40:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bits I posted a couple of weeks ago looking for a bumper overider, back up light and top latch for a early 67.? One of the members replied that he thought he had all of them.? I wanted to follow up, but?apparently deleted the email.? Please contact me!? We now return you to your regularly scheduled program... Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 16:54:47 2009 From: Tim To: vulforge@aol.com, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:46:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bits Contact Craig Halstead if all else fails. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- vulforge@aol.com wrote: ============= I posted a couple of weeks ago looking for a bumper overider, back up light and top latch for a early 67.? One of the members replied that he thought he had all of them.? I wanted to follow up, but?apparently deleted the email.? Please contact me!? We now return you to your regularly scheduled program... Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 17:41:44 2009 From: Eddie To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:29:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Ok, that's an important tip... which leads to my next question: Where does one get a cap for that? Has anyone made them? Thanks. Eddie Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Yes, the tach cable take-off would need to be capped. With the cable > in place, there is a seal in the connection which prevents (usually) > oil from the distributor lubrication system from leaking into or from > the cable. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" > To: "Pete Peters" > Cc: "'Datsun Roadster List'" > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 > > >> An electric distributor runs off of one wire that's attached to the >> coil. It's pretty simple. >> I'm not sure if the hook up on the distributor for the old manual >> tach would need to be "capped" or anything. Someone else here might >> know that... >> >> Eddie >> >> Pete Peters wrote: >>> Don't remember the specifics, but do remember it discussed many >>> times on the >>> 311s.org forums. >>> >>> Pete >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net >>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver >>> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:10 PM >>> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >>> Subject: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 >>> >>> what's involved in switching out the existing speedo and tach to an >>> aftermarket replacement unit? >>> >>> the new ones are all electric, right? so there has to be some kind of >>> converter? >>> >>> thanks! >>> >>> btw i am already in the process of installing aftermarket gages for >>> everything else. i had thought i would retain the speedo and tach >>> but now >>> i'm exploring the possibility of replacing those too. >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 18:57:06 2009 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: tputland@charter.net, vulforge@aol.com, Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:46:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bits I'm sure Mike Young has them as well. -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: vulforge@aol.com; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 2:46 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bits Contact Craig Halstead if all else fails. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- vulforge@aol.com wrote: ============= I posted a couple of weeks ago looking for a bumper overider, back up light and top latch for a early 67.? One of the members replied that he thought he had all of them.? I wanted to follow up, but?apparently deleted the email.? Please contact me!? We now return you to your regularly scheduled program... Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1046 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 20:13:46 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the parts he is taking ofa 70 1600? $40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less. I really don't know how to react to this person. I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 20:28:31 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:27:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Simple...you don't buy. Either the seller is clueless or hoping the buyer is. The 510 guys routinely point out eBay selling prices of hundreds of dollars for a $30 part still in the system. The fact is that there are many Datsun owners out there completely unaware of the internet and supporting clubs. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the parts he is taking ofa 70 1600? $40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less. I really don't know how to react to this person. I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 20:57:26 2009 From: "Don Boyd" To: Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:41:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down shocks The shock don't flip jounce/rebound ratios when they are upside down. They may do several other unpleasant things however. The only shocks that can be successfully "flipped" are gas-monotube designs. Bilstien, Penske , white power- virtually all the motorcycle high performance units. Almost all the high performance units we can get for our roadsters won't work upside down because they have a second tube around the damping chamber tube that acts as a reservoir for the oil. When you flip it over, the oil runs down to the "bottom", away from the oil replenishing valve/hole. And then there is no damping at all. Konis are built this way I'm pretty sure. That said, unless your building the national championship car for the scca runoffs, and you need that .1 second that flipping the shocks provide, and your willing to spend 3 grand for Penske to put a set together, there are MUCH more cost effective ways to gain an edge. Most folks don't realize how much wheels vary in weight, and 3 grand spent on "real" mags would give much greater returns. Course, they aren't street legal, but................ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 21:34:00 2009 From: "Don Boyd" To: Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:16:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down shocks A little more. Most street type performance shocks will provide about twice the damping on rebound as jounce. or at least the shock dyno sheets I get from koni read that way to me. The real gains in shocks are when you can independently vary jounce, rebound, and high an low speed damping. You can also get in LOTS of trouble. When I was a lad, I was a pretty good motorcycle racer. I competed in the northwest desert racing series, and in 1985 bought a shiny new KTM 495 to ride that year. The White Power upside down rear shock that came with it was adjustable for rebound and compression, but in "jouncing" the back end of the bike by sharply pushing on the seat, I couldn't tell between minimum and maximum settings. I could somewhat tell on compression, but rebound felt all the same -- so I thought. So I set the compression on "1" and the rebound on "1". And off to the races! The bike was great, I was close to the front by the "bomb", but during the race it would headshake terribly sometimes. The handlebars would just become a blur. At 80 or 90 mph, that's going to get your attention fast. This first race was a team race , so when my teammate was out on the course, I went over to the dealer who was sponsoring the regional champion. He had also just bought the same KTM 495, so I explained my problem and ask for help. He said they just left it at stock settings. Compression "1" rebound "3" . (out of 10 or 12 steps as I recall) You guessed it. I changed to rebound "3". Keep in mind this was the REAR shock, the headshake never happened again. That was an "ahh so grasshopper" revelation. Shock settings do matter, and rear affects front and vice versa. And you can't tell squat from the bench. Racing conditions are the only thing that will bring out your stupid choices! :-) Gordon is right about wheels. Spend $$ on them. A NOS set of revolution real magnesium wheels would be top of my list. One thing boys and girls. If you run across a set of old mags, EVEN IF THEY ARE FREE, DON'T DON'T USE THEM. Magnesium corrodes in such a way as to be visually ok, but structurally rotten. X-ray is the only way to tell. I not an expert on the hows and whys, but I do know given the environment wheels live in that old "real" mags can't be used. I just hang them on the wall to hold air and water hoses. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 21:56:22 2009 From: Steve Ehlers To: eddietude@socal.rr.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:56:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Hey Eddie , Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also has a seal that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even know that it exists .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the Tach cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in the car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to buy :-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem . The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals .Both seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug the Stand with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find something to fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up the pinion carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by TIG welding the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it . Steve www.risingsunperformance.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 21:58:28 2009 From: Eddie To: Pete Peters Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:53:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 It's also possible the SELLER doesn't know what the parts are worth. They may have bought the car, found that some prices were really high, and decided to part the car out figuring everything on these cars is high... Eddie Pete Peters wrote: > Simple...you don't buy. Either the seller is clueless or hoping the buyer > is. The 510 guys routinely point out eBay selling prices of hundreds of > dollars for a $30 part still in the system. The fact is that there are many > Datsun owners out there completely unaware of the internet and supporting > clubs. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 > > Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the > parts he is taking ofa 70 1600? > > $40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less. > > I really don't know how to react to this person. > > I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 21:58:44 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Pete Peters'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:53:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Stupidity may not always be painful, but it can sure be expensive. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:27 PM To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Simple...you don't buy. Either the seller is clueless or hoping the buyer is. The 510 guys routinely point out eBay selling prices of hundreds of dollars for a $30 part still in the system. The fact is that there are many Datsun owners out there completely unaware of the internet and supporting clubs. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the parts he is taking ofa 70 1600? $40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less. I really don't know how to react to this person. I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 22:43:05 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Steve Ehlers'" , Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:20:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Good point. Still, since the drive sticks out through the seal, I'd feel better covering something that is going to be spinning at up to 3-4,000 rpm on occasion. The crevices look like a good dirt-catcher. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ehlers Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:56 PM To: eddietude@socal.rr.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Hey Eddie , Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also has a seal that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even know that it exists .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the Tach cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in the car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to buy :-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem . The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals .Both seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug the Stand with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find something to fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up the pinion carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by TIG welding the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it . Steve www.risingsunperformance.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 22:44:00 2009 From: Eddie To: Steve Ehlers Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:21:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Steve, So in other words, I DON'T have to do anything? Just leave the spot where the cable attaches off and I should be ok? That would be nice! (But I want to double check on that...) Eddie Steve Ehlers wrote: > Hey Eddie , > Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the > Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also > has a seal > that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even > know that it exists .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the > Tach > cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in > the car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and > speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to > buy :-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem . > > The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals > .Both seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug > the Stand with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find > something to fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up > the pinion carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by > TIG welding the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it . > Steve > www.risingsunperformance.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 22:45:37 2009 From: Eddie To: Gordon Glasgow Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:23:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Or accidentally sticking a finger near it while working on the running car... That would fall in the "oops, this sucks" category! Eddie Gordon Glasgow wrote: > Good point. Still, since the drive sticks out through the seal, I'd feel > better covering something that is going to be spinning at up to 3-4,000 rpm > on occasion. The crevices look like a good dirt-catcher. > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ehlers > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:56 PM > To: eddietude@socal.rr.com > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 > > Hey Eddie , > Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the > Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also has > a seal > that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even > know that it exists .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the Tach > cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in the > car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and > speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to buy > :-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem . > > The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals .Both > seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug the Stand > with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find something to > fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up the pinion > carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by TIG welding > the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it . > Steve > www.risingsunperformance.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsglasgow@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 22:46:25 2009 From: Jerry Krakauer To: Don Boyd , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:29:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down shocks You guys are right, just another senior moment. You also may have ruined my day by letting me know that my 40 year old 'real mag' Minilites may not be any good. Next you'll be telling me that the 35 year old Goodyear slicks that are mounted on them aren't any good either! Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Boyd" To: Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] upside down shocks > The shock don't flip jounce/rebound ratios when they are upside down. They > may > do several other unpleasant things however. The only shocks that can be > successfully "flipped" are gas-monotube designs. Bilstien, Penske , white > power- virtually all the motorcycle high performance units. Almost all the > high performance units we can get for our roadsters won't work upside down > because they have a second tube around the damping chamber tube that acts > as a > reservoir for the oil. When you flip it over, the oil runs down to the > "bottom", away from the oil replenishing valve/hole. And then there is no > damping at all. Konis are built this way I'm pretty sure. > That said, unless your building the national championship car for the > scca > runoffs, and you need that .1 second that flipping the shocks provide, and > your willing to spend 3 grand for Penske to put a set together, there are > MUCH > more cost effective ways to gain an edge. Most folks don't realize how > much > wheels vary in weight, and 3 grand spent on "real" mags would give much > greater returns. Course, they aren't street legal, but................ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 23:23:08 2009 From: Steve Ehlers To: Gordon Glasgow Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:54:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Gordon , I assume ,with Most of the Questions and comments I have seen on this forum for years ,for the most part , the owners of our Roadsters are Hobbyists and Armature Mechanics . Just Leaving the cable off falls into that category . If this car was at my shop ,and the customer wanted a solution ,I would TIG weld the pinion carrier into a plug . I would be on to the next car before you got to any source for any way to cap or plug it . BTW ,Good luck finding any Metric caps or plugs at your local Home Depot or O'Riley parts store . You might get luckey and find a US standard plug and crossthread that in for a nice leak ;-) . Good Luck , Steve www.risingsunperformance.com Gordon Glasgow wrote: >Good point. Still, since the drive sticks out through the seal, I'd feel >better covering something that is going to be spinning at up to 3-4,000 rpm >on occasion. The crevices look like a good dirt-catcher. > >Gordon Glasgow ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 23:25:24 2009 From: Steve Ehlers To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:02:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67] Eddie , This is turning very slow when Idling and I doubt you will be just sticking your finger on it while racing the engine at the same time . Common sense dictates ,but I would doubt that if you touched it ,you would even get an "Oh that hurt " . Steve Eddie wrote: > Or accidentally sticking a finger near it while working on the running > car... > That would fall in the "oops, this sucks" category! > Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 23:35:28 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:14:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Tim, No need to react. He has no clue what it is worth and is just fishing. Note that all (or most) "Or Best Offer"). For my part, since he's so far off on the value, I wouldn't trust the condition. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 > Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the > parts he is taking ofa 70 1600? > > $40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less. > > I really don't know how to react to this person. > > I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 23:35:40 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Steve Ehlers" , Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:21:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Eddie, Once upon a time, I had an oil leak at the distributor stand where the tachometer (speedo drive pinion?) cable exits, which I traced to a tear in the seal in the end of the tach cable. Replaced the seal, solved the problem. Hasn't leaked since. Do as you wish, but I'd cap it. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ehlers" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 > Hey Eddie , > Gary is incorrect in stating that the speedo drive pinion in the > Distributor stand needs or has to be plugged .The drive pinion also has a > seal > that seals it in the stand . I assume most Roadster owners don't even know > that it exists .This is the Real reason for "Oil Creep " in the Tach > cable that ends up on your clothes ,when it leaks out of the Tach in the > car (Same problem with the Speedo Head too) . The Electric tach and > speedo gives you the benefit of no more ruined clothes and cables to buy > :-) . With a Good seal ,it shouldn't be a real problem . > > The speedo and tach cable seals are secondary to the pinion seals .Both > seals are the same part number . You could however try to plug the Stand > with who knows what sized plug or cap if you can even find something to > fit .You could make it totally irreversible by welding up the pinion > carrier and removing the pinion or making a cap device by TIG welding > the aluminum end fitting of a tach cable to cap it . > Steve > www.risingsunperformance.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 00:16:48 2009 From: Steve Ehlers To: Gary and Cindy Ault , Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:55:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 Gary , You only took care of the secondary seal in the design . If the pinion seal was replaced ,you would have solved it at the root cause . The cable seals are just that . They are used to keep the cable and housing interior clean and uncontaminated . Pinion seals are available as a new part .The Tach and Speedo cable housing seals are Not available as an individual replacement part from Nissan . Remove your Tach cable end from the stand and tell me there isn't any oil in the housing there now . So , Cap it with what ? Steve Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Eddie, > > Once upon a time, I had an oil leak at the distributor stand where the > tachometer (speedo drive pinion?) cable exits, which I traced to a > tear in the seal in the end of the tach cable. Replaced the seal, > solved the problem. Hasn't leaked since. > > Do as you wish, but I'd cap it. > > Gary ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 00:48:53 2009 From: Michael Knorr To: Datsun Roadster Listserver Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:27:57 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 I've paid a lot of money for rather inexpensive SPL311 parts in my past, usually on e-Bay or from a "friendly fellow enthusiast." Shopping can require a long learning curve -- I think for both buyers and sellers -- so don't be too quick to damn. Caveat emptor! We all need to be ware. Regards, Michael Knorr SPL311-03639 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 01:44:18 2009 From: Eddie To: Steve Ehlers Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:44:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67] Hey, Ummm, it was meant kind of as a joke... But I think it got lost in translation... lol Eddie Steve Ehlers wrote: > Eddie , > > This is turning very slow when Idling and I doubt you will be just > sticking your finger on it while racing the engine at the same time . > Common sense dictates ,but I would doubt that if you touched it ,you > would even get an "Oh that hurt " . > Steve > > Eddie wrote: > >> Or accidentally sticking a finger near it while working on the >> running car... >> That would fall in the "oops, this sucks" category! >> Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 02:35:42 2009 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'Steve Ehlers'" , Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:35:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67] I believe the tach and speedo cables are turning with a 10:1 speed reduction. So a motor reving at 10,000 RPM, would only be spinning the tach cable at 1000 RPM's before the motor exploded! Walt Peterson -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ehlers Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67] Eddie , This is turning very slow when Idling and I doubt you will be just sticking your finger on it while racing the engine at the same time . Common sense dictates ,but I would doubt that if you touched it ,you would even get an "Oh that hurt " . Steve Eddie wrote: > Or accidentally sticking a finger near it while working on the running > car... > That would fall in the "oops, this sucks" category! > Eddie You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 05:08:51 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Eddie'" , "'Pete Peters'" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:09:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Just look at the sellers email address. It explains why the price is so far out of line. musclecarbros@gmail.com Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Eddie It's also possible the SELLER doesn't know what the parts are worth. They may have bought the car, found that some prices were really high, and decided to part the car out figuring everything on these cars is high... Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 08:26:31 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: Steve Ehlers Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 I used the cap off an old cable. A penny fits nicely inside to keep dirt and stuff out of the hole. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ehlers" To: "Gordon Glasgow" Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:54:08 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 If this car was at my shop ,and the customer wanted a solution ,I would TIG weld the pinion carrier into a plug . I would be on to the next car before you got to any source for any way to cap or plug it . ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 09:37:52 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Michael Knorr'" , "'Datsun Roadster Listserver'" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:38:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 I apologize if I offended anyone by my comment. I've probably become a little too narrow in my fondness for these cars and the roadster community, which has gained a well-deserved reputation for being polite, helpful and responsive. Going to eBay first is probably the natural inclination for people who aren't aware of the community, or who may have no real interest in joining it. Still, it seems odd that people wouldn't do a little bit more thorough searching, considering how easy it is. I've encountered plenty of people who have contacted me through my Web site asking about parts availability, who haven't even taken the time to look at my Vendors page. I know there are a lot of legitimate, honest people selling things on eBay, and an auction format has its uses. But it is also an opportunity for unscrupulous people to scam the unknowing or inexperienced. Like they say, "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of experience comes from bad judgment." I can offer myself as proof of that. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Knorr Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:28 PM To: Datsun Roadster Listserver Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 I've paid a lot of money for rather inexpensive SPL311 parts in my past, usually on e-Bay or from a "friendly fellow enthusiast." Shopping can require a long learning curve -- I think for both buyers and sellers -- so don't be too quick to damn. Caveat emptor! We all need to be ware. Regards, Michael Knorr SPL311-03639 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 09:49:05 2009 From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'Pete Peters'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:49:19 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 That's when it would be nice if fellow listers could chime up and let others know about the realistic availability of such parts. I know we don't all have a great relationship with a Nissan parts guy to find out if everything is still available, and at what prices. So, what is this mysterious $30 part?? Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:27 PM To: 'Datsun Roadster List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Simple...you don't buy. Either the seller is clueless or hoping the buyer is. The 510 guys routinely point out eBay selling prices of hundreds of dollars for a $30 part still in the system. The fact is that there are many Datsun owners out there completely unaware of the internet and supporting clubs. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Any one else checked the "starting" bid prices this seller wants for the parts he is taking ofa 70 1600? $40 for this one alone. A part that can be bought NOS for much less. I really don't know how to react to this person. I guess the last line of my signature is really apropos right now. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 10:06:35 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:05:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Even within the Roadster community there are still many instances of people not knowing about the other list, the Parts Interchange section on 311 site, how to use the search feature here and on the other list, etc etc. Meaning that if you don't work for your discount you might not get it! I think this is why they said in school that reading was important...... Linda 68 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Glasgow To: 'Michael Knorr' ; 'Datsun Roadster Listserver' Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 7:38 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 I apologize if I offended anyone by my comment. I've probably become a little too narrow in my fondness for these cars and the roadster community, which has gained a well-deserved reputation for being polite, helpful and responsive. Going to eBay first is probably the natural inclination for people who aren't aware of the community, or who may have no real interest in joining it. Still, it seems odd that people wouldn't do a little bit more thorough searching, considering how easy it is. I've encountered plenty of people who have contacted me through my Web site asking about parts availability, who haven't even taken the time to look at my Vendors page. I know there are a lot of legitimate, honest people selling things on eBay, and an auction format has its uses. But it is also an opportunity for unscrupulous people to scam the unknowing or inexperienced. Like they say, "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of experience comes from bad judgment." I can offer myself as proof of that. Gordon Glasgow ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 10:13:46 2009 From: "Lee Ehinger" To: , Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:14:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 If you have the part number, Courtesy Nissan http://www.courtesyparts.com/ will take the time to see if it is available and does give internet discounts. I am amazed at the amount of parts still available from Nissan for my 1970 240Z... roadster parts are getting thin... Lee Ehinger Ft Wayne IN -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704@netscape.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:05 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Even within the Roadster community there are still many instances of people not knowing about the other list, the Parts Interchange section on 311 site, how to use the search feature here and on the other list, etc etc. Meaning that if you don't work for your discount you might not get it! I think this is why they said in school that reading was important...... Linda 68 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Glasgow To: 'Michael Knorr' ; 'Datsun Roadster Listserver' Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 7:38 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 I apologize if I offended anyone by my comment. I've probably become a little too narrow in my fondness for these cars and the roadster community, which has gained a well-deserved reputation for being polite, helpful and responsive. Going to eBay first is probably the natural inclination for people who aren't aware of the community, or who may have no real interest in joining it. Still, it seems odd that people wouldn't do a little bit more thorough searching, considering how easy it is. I've encountered plenty of people who have contacted me through my Web site asking about parts availability, who haven't even taken the time to look at my Vendors page. I know there are a lot of legitimate, honest people selling things on eBay, and an auction format has its uses. But it is also an opportunity for unscrupulous people to scam the unknowing or inexperienced. Like they say, "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of experience comes from bad judgment." I can offer myself as proof of that. Gordon Glasgow ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 10:19:18 2009 From: chalsted@comcast.net To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 I just sent the following to the seller: I can tell you're not very familiar with these cars and the price of parts. there's a roadster list with over 400 owners and your auctions have been eliciting a lot of comments- like that you don't have a clue...you can get a pair of the these lights NOS for about the price you're asking for one used, a lot of your roadster parts are priced WAY more than you will ever get for them- totally unrealistic expectations folks give away the front swaybars, the trim around the back of the cockpit is about a $15. piece.. window glass can be bought for $25 apiece or less... 1600 valve covers usually bring $20, as high as $80 if they've been polished... I wish you luck selling your stuff but mostly your roadster parts auctions are just good for laughs. somehow I don't think they're likely to post this on their auction(s) Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 10:25:53 2009 From: Eddie To: chalsted@comcast.net Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:26:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Craig, On the same thought, try to find a body part from a vendor for under $100. I've got an entire car I'd gladly part out, but everyone wants a fender for $50 when the vendors sell them for $200 or more. It makes no sense for me to sell the parts in that case because if I ever need them, I'd be boned! I agree, some of his prices are stupid. On the other hand, some I don't think are that far off. His trunk lid was what? $150? Maybe a little high, but I've seen the vendors sell those for over $100... Just my 2 cents, and it isn't even worth that much... Eddie chalsted@comcast.net wrote: > I just sent the following to the seller: > > > > I can tell you're not very familiar with these cars and the price of parts. there's a roadster list with over 400 owners and your auctions have been eliciting a lot of comments- like that you don't have a clue...you can get a pair of the these lights NOS for about the price you're asking for one used, a lot of your roadster parts are priced WAY more than you will ever get for them- totally unrealistic expectations folks give away the front swaybars, the trim around the back of the cockpit is about a $15. piece.. window glass can be bought for $25 apiece or less... 1600 valve covers usually bring $20, as high as $80 if they've been polished... I wish you luck selling your stuff but mostly your roadster parts auctions are just good for laughs. > > > somehow I don't think they're likely to post this on their auction(s) > > > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 11:36:09 2009 From: stl@adnc.com To: Michael Knorr Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:36:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay item #200330704095 Michael, That was my experience exactly. When I started the restoration I did not have any savvy. If the Nissan dealer didn't have a part I was outta luck, or so I thought, before I got to know Les and Dennis and learned about the list. BTW my $140 fuse box purchased on Ebay from a "friendly fellow enthusiast" is now displayed under glass to remind me that experience does not come cheaply. LOL. Steve Landuyt '69 2000 San Diego Quoting Michael Knorr : > I've paid a lot of money for rather inexpensive SPL311 parts in my past, > usually on e-Bay or from a "friendly fellow enthusiast." Shopping can require > a long learning curve -- I think for both buyers and sellers -- so don't be > too quick to damn. Caveat emptor! We all need to be ware. > > > > Regards, Michael Knorr > > SPL311-03639 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as stl@adnc.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 15:35:16 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:35:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs Hi all, I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on the oils used in the vehicle. They list the capacities, but not the type. Brilliant. Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs are for the following items: Engine oil Trans Oil Differential Oil Thanks. Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 16:20:26 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Eddie'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:21:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs Here's what I use: Engine (fresh) - 5W-30 Trans - Redline MTL Diff - Redline 75W90 (used to use Kendall 80W90) Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:36 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs Hi all, I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on the oils used in the vehicle. They list the capacities, but not the type. Brilliant. Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs are for the following items: Engine oil Trans Oil Differential Oil Thanks. Eddie Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 18:23:43 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs Discussed multiple times here and 311s.org forums.....with multiple opinions on what to run. For the official Datsun recommendation, just look in the owner's manual, which you can download from 311s.org. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:35:54 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs Hi all, I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on the oils used in the vehicle. They list the capacities, but not the type. Brilliant. Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs are for the following items: Engine oil Trans Oil Differential Oil Thanks. Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 18:24:36 2009 From: Pat Horne To: datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:24:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose source A friend has a 80's car that has a hose from the catalytic converter to the engine. I'm assuming it is some type of pre-heating method. Anyway, the hose has deteriorated and needs to be replaced. Local parts houses and the dealer say that it is NLA. I checked McMaster-Carr and didn't find anything. We only need a foot of it. I seem to recall that this type of hose was made of silicone, but am not sure. Any idea where to look? Thanks, Pat -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 21:18:15 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:17:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs I have 20-50 Castrol and 80-90 gear oil in the tranny and diff. I use the WIX filter only. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 1:35 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs Hi all,? ? I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on the oils used in the vehicle. They list the capacities, but not the type. Brilliant.? ? Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs are for the following items:? ? Engine oil? ? Trans Oil? ? Differential Oil? ? Thanks.? ? Eddie? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 21:32:48 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Embarq Customer" , "Steve Ehlers" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:33:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 I like Steve Ehler's idea of TIG welding the cap, if it is weldable. Positive closure is always better than making do. If not, what you did works for me, with the addition of some sealant. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Embarq Customer" To: "Steve Ehlers" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 >I used the cap off an old cable. A penny fits nicely inside to keep dirt >and stuff out of the hole. > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Ehlers" > To: "Gordon Glasgow" > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:54:08 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] speedo and tach early 67 > > If this car was at my shop ,and the customer wanted a solution ,I would > TIG weld the pinion carrier into a plug . I would be > on to the next car before you got to any source for any way to cap or > plug it . > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 22:02:55 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Eddie" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:03:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs Eddie, With my 1600/U20, I run: 1. Engine: Castrol 20W50 in the summer, and, when I drove the car during cold weather, 10W50. Cranks and starts fine with a factory starter; maintains good oil pressure when hot. With 10W50 in the crankcase, the car would start reliably at 10-15 below (F). (I left it outside one night to make sure, because I didn't want to get stranded at work. Back then, 1977-1979, it was my go-to-work car.) 2. Trans/Differential: 80W90 gear oil. (Also in steering box.) You'll get lot's of opinions on this one, probably none more right or wrong than another. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs > Hi all, > > I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on > the oils used in the vehicle. They list the capacities, but not the type. > Brilliant. > > Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs are > for the following items: > > Engine oil > > Trans Oil > > Differential Oil > > Thanks. > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 22:35:22 2009 From: ed.sawyer@comcast.net To: pat@hornesystemstx.com Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose source When I was putting my engine back in a few years ago, I mistook the Cowl Drain hose as something more vital then it was and looked all over creation for a Silicone HI temp 3" hose that I could use. After some fruitless searching, a hydralic hose shop sent me to a Semi-truck parts place and I just went in and wondered the aisles with the parts guy for awhile and they found a High-temp silicone hose that would fit the bill. Of course, when I realized the hose I had could be necked off a little bit and still work fine...I'm not sure what happend to it after that. Short answer: Try a big rig parts place. Eddie 68' Datsun Roadster "Cochecita" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" To: "datsun Roadster List" Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:24:25 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose source A friend has a 80's car that has a hose from the catalytic converter to the engine. I'm assuming it is some type of pre-heating method. Anyway, the hose has deteriorated and needs to be replaced. Local parts houses and the dealer say that it is NLA. I checked McMaster-Carr and didn't find anything. We only need a foot of it. I seem to recall that this type of hose was made of silicone, but am not sure. Any idea where to look? Thanks, Pat -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ed.sawyer@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 22:57:11 2009 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose source For many years I've bought high temperature hose and other neat stuff from Pegasus Auto Racing near Milwaukee. vince http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ --- On Fri, 4/17/09, ed.sawyer@comcast.net wrote: > From: ed.sawyer@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose source > To: pat@hornesystemstx.com > Cc: "datsun Roadster List" > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 10:36 PM > When I was putting my engine back in > a few years ago, I mistook the Cowl Drain hose as something > more vital then it was and looked all over creation for a > Silicone HI temp 3" hose that I could use. After some > fruitless searching, a hydralic hose shop sent me to a > Semi-truck parts place and I just went in and wondered the > aisles with the parts guy for awhile and they found a > High-temp silicone hose that would fit the bill. Of course, > when I realized the hose I had could be necked off a little > bit and still work fine...I'm not sure what happend to it > after that. Short answer: Try a big rig parts place. > > Eddie > 68' Datsun Roadster "Cochecita" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Horne" > > To: "datsun Roadster List" > > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:24:25 PM GMT -08:00 > US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [Roadsters] OT: looking for high temperature hose > source > > A friend has a 80's car that has a hose from the catalytic > converter to > the engine. I'm assuming it is some type of pre-heating > method. > Anyway, the hose has deteriorated and needs to be replaced. > Local parts > houses and the dealer say that it is NLA. I checked > McMaster-Carr and > didn't find anything. We only need a foot of it. I seem to > recall that > this type of hose was made of silicone, but am not sure. > Any idea where > to look? > > Thanks, > Pat > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com > Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand > OUT -- > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ed.sawyer@comcast.net > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 23:05:56 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:06:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Aftermarket Gas Cap Anyone have a number for an Aftermarket Gas Cap that works on the Roadsters? Thanks! Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 23:22:17 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:23:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose Here's another item I need. The darn Filler neck hose that goes from the filler neck to the tank. It's an oddball size, 1 7/8" ID. Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff? I found a place, but he has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need 6"! Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not doing that! lol Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 23:43:39 2009 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: Datsun Roadster List , Eddie Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose Years ago I bought a 3' section of such hose at NAPA, and have used it for several projects. The price wasn't too expensive and was easier than trying to search around for a smaller piece. Pegasus might also have something like this. vince --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Eddie wrote: > From: Eddie > Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 11:23 PM > Here's another item I need. The > darn Filler neck hose that goes from the filler neck to the > tank. It's an oddball size, 1 7/8" ID. > Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff? I found > a place, but he has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need > 6"! > Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not > doing that! lol > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 09:33:15 2009 From: "Jim Svedise" To: , Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:34:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs I have been using 10-30 Synthetic oil in motor and auto trans fluid in trans for about 4 years now works great. Jim 70 2000 PS See you all at Solvang -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:17 PM To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs > I have 20-50 Castrol and 80-90 gear oil in the tranny and diff. I use the > WIX filter only. > > Linda > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie > To: Datsun Roadster List > Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 1:35 pm > Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Fluid Specs > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,? > ? > > I just went through the repair manual and could not find a spec list on > the oils used in the vehicle. They list the capacities, but not the > type. Brilliant.? > ? > > Could someone reply to this and let me know what the proper oil specs > are for the following items:? > ? > > Engine oil? > ? > > Trans Oil? > ? > > Differential Oil? > ? > > Thanks.? > ? > > Eddie? > > ________________________________________? > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? > ? > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? > ? > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list? > ? > > http://www.team.net/archive? > ? > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as svedise@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 12:22:37 2009 From: Steve Ehlers To: eddietude@socal.rr.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:23:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose Hey Eddie, This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car , or just band aid your car together ? Good Luck, Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 12:26:00 2009 From: Eddie To: Steve Ehlers Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:26:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose Hey Steve, Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a standard neoprene fuel filler hose. Nothing special about it except the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball. But, it's out there. Eddie Steve Ehlers wrote: > Hey Eddie, > This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it > will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use > one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . > Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market > or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as > you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car , > or just band aid your car together ? > Good Luck, > Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 12:46:15 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:46:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose Why not just get the 2" hose? It's not under pressure and unlikely to leak I would think. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: Steve Ehlers Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:26 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose Hey Steve,? ? Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a standard neoprene fuel filler hose. Nothing special about it except the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball. But, it's out there.? ? Eddie? ? Steve Ehlers wrote:? > Hey Eddie,? > This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it > will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use? > one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . > Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market? > or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as > you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,? > or just band aid your car together ?? > Good Luck,? > Steve? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 12:50:08 2009 From: Eddie To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:50:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose Those hoses are much harder than standard rubber "radiator" type hoses. They won't tighten down as well, and will be more prone to leak vapors. This is the hose that's in the trunk, from the filler neck to the tank. You don't want gas vapors filling the trunk of your car.. even a small leak could cause the trunk to fill up with gas fumes... then you turn your lights on and watch the rear end of your car explode... Eddie ljordan704@netscape.net wrote: > Why not just get the 2" hose? It's not under pressure and unlikely to leak I would think. > > Linda > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie > To: Steve Ehlers > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:26 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose > > > > > > > > > > Hey Steve,? > ? > > Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a > standard neoprene fuel filler hose. Nothing special about it except > the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball. But, it's > out there.? > ? > > Eddie? > ? > > Steve Ehlers wrote:? > > >> Hey Eddie,? >> > > >> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it >> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use? >> > > >> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . >> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market? >> > > >> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as >> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car ,? >> > > >> or just band aid your car together ?? >> > > >> Good Luck,? >> > > >> Steve? >> > > ________________________________________? > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? > ? > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? > ? > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list? > ? > > http://www.team.net/archive? > ? > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 13:19:42 2009 From: Steve Ehlers To: Eddie , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:21:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose Eddie , I only said that because I ordered several a few years ago and got them in stock then ,and still have a stash for my car. Steve Eddie wrote: > Hey Steve, > > Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a > standard neoprene fuel filler hose. Nothing special about it except > the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball. But, it's > out there. > > Eddie > > Steve Ehlers wrote: > >> Hey Eddie, >> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it >> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use >> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . >> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market >> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as >> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car , >> or just band aid your car together ? >> Good Luck, >> Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 13:30:37 2009 From: "MH" To: "Steve Ehlers" , "Eddie" Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:28:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose If that size is out there ( and it is BTW), then go get one. If they're getting scarce, or otherwise hard to to find, maybe you or someone else can get them manufactured for the rest of us. Then we won't have to buy them from other the sources.. Mike H. '67 - Stoker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ehlers" To: "Eddie" ; Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose > Eddie , > I only said that because I ordered several a few years ago and got them > in stock then ,and still have a stash for my car. > Steve > > Eddie wrote: > > > Hey Steve, > > > > Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a > > standard neoprene fuel filler hose. Nothing special about it except > > the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball. But, it's > > out there. > > > > Eddie > > > > Steve Ehlers wrote: > > > >> Hey Eddie, > >> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it > >> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use > >> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . > >> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market > >> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as > >> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car , > >> or just band aid your car together ? > >> Good Luck, > >> Steve > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 13:30:58 2009 From: "MH" To: "Steve Ehlers" , "Eddie" Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:28:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose If that size is out there ( and it is BTW), then go get one. If they're getting scarce, or otherwise hard to to find, maybe you or someone else can get them manufactured for the rest of us. Then we won't have to buy them from other the sources.. Mike H. '67 - Stoker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ehlers" To: "Eddie" ; Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose > Eddie , > I only said that because I ordered several a few years ago and got them > in stock then ,and still have a stash for my car. > Steve > > Eddie wrote: > > > Hey Steve, > > > > Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a > > standard neoprene fuel filler hose. Nothing special about it except > > the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball. But, it's > > out there. > > > > Eddie > > > > Steve Ehlers wrote: > > > >> Hey Eddie, > >> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it > >> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use > >> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . > >> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market > >> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as > >> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car , > >> or just band aid your car together ? > >> Good Luck, > >> Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as twobeaners@earthlink.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.0/2066 - Release Date: 04/18/09 09:55:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 13:48:40 2009 From: "dave" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:49:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose Local Napa should have it, is 2" so loose the clamp won't make it up? Sounds silly, but I would guess almost everyone who hasn't replaced their hose probably should, so the remainder of the 12 feet would probably sell. Bring it to Solvang, I'll take a foot!! Gates lists 1 7/8, 3 foot lengths. www.Gates.com Product ID 46633603 Part # 23930 Product Description 23930 1-7/8" X3FT FUEL FILL UPC 072053062663 -----Original Message----- From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude@socal.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:23 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose Here's another item I need. The darn Filler neck hose that goes from the filler neck to the tank. It's an oddball size, 1 7/8" ID. Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff? I found a place, but he has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need 6"! Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not doing that! lol Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 13:58:05 2009 From: vze2fhba@verizon.net To: stevenehlers@charter.net Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:58:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 14:10:19 2009 From: Steve Ehlers To: vze2fhba@verizon.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:11:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose /V7ngxM: Permission denied ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 14:30:36 2009 From: Eddie To: MH Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:31:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose "maybe you or someone else can get them manufactured for the rest of us. " You know, I did that once, and got nothing but headaches for it. Half the people who said they wanted the item never ordered it, others did everything they could to derail the project, and few were willing to stand up and open voice their support of it. Behind the scenes, many were willing to email me privately and offer support, but openly? Nope. As a result, I haven't bothered to get a number of things manufactured that I could, quite easily, and probably at reasonable prices. When the Roadster Community is willing to actually buy what they say they will, and stand up to the bullies who try to derail anyone who wants to do anything for the community, and when people stop telling others THEY should go get something manufactured, I'll be glad to help. Until then, people can go to the vendors and pay whatever they're charging. Eddie MH wrote: > If that size is out there ( and it is BTW), then go get one. If they're > getting scarce, or otherwise hard to to find, maybe you or someone else can > get them manufactured for the rest of us. Then we won't have to buy them > from other the sources.. > Mike H. '67 - Stoker / 5-Speed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Ehlers" > To: "Eddie" ; > Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose > > > >> Eddie , >> I only said that because I ordered several a few years ago and got them >> in stock then ,and still have a stash for my car. >> Steve >> >> Eddie wrote: >> >> >>> Hey Steve, >>> >>> Actually this part should be available as an aftermarket part, it's a >>> standard neoprene fuel filler hose. Nothing special about it except >>> the standard sizes are 2", and the 1 7/8" is a bit oddball. But, it's >>> out there. >>> >>> Eddie >>> >>> Steve Ehlers wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hey Eddie, >>>> This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it >>>> will be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use >>>> one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . >>>> Don't assume that you can get any and all your parts after market >>>> or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as >>>> you wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car , >>>> or just band aid your car together ? >>>> Good Luck, >>>> Steve >>>> >> ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 18:01:09 2009 From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:01:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the battery when you are working on your car? Nothing....... usually http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the ears. I accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle and the battery exploded. Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it was easily washed off. I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses caught a few small dots and nothing got into my eyes. Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the car again? Yeah, I probably will. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 21:30:16 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:22:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? Who needs 30 Roadsters? I suspect the answer is anyone that only has 29. Mike Adams is looking for a buyer to clean out his stash. He has approximately 30 Roadsters and stacks of parts, motors, hoods, wheels, etc.. There is a 213, 67.5 1600, and many other years. I'm pretty sure he isn't looking to spend time parting them out or selling piecemeal. Make him an offer for the whole lot. The cars are located between Burr and Wharton, TX. I took some photos which are located on my webshots page and are numbered DSC00270-DSC00284. You will probably have to go down to Wharton and drag them out of the weeds yourself. Mike has a tractor that he would probably let you use. I bet you could fit a bunch in containers or some other form of bulk transport. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2748906430065431685kaQWxb][img]http://thumb5 .webshots.net/t/62/662/9/6/43/2748906430065431685kaQWxb_th.jpg Contact Mike to make the deal. fromburr@yahoo.com Thanks, Andy Cost ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 21:37:38 2009 From: Eddie To: Andy Cost Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:38:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? That's just insane! 30 roadsters! What the heck would you DO with 30 roadsters? It would be pretty cool to see how many COMPLETE roadsters one could salvage out of that pile. If I lived near there, had nothing to do, and lots of room, I'd be tempted. Thank GOD I don't! lol Some of those looked pretty bad, and pretty hacked up. I like the ones with the trees growing through the engine compartment. Eddie Andy Cost wrote: > Who needs 30 Roadsters? I suspect the answer is anyone that only has 29. > Mike Adams is looking for a buyer to clean out his stash. He has > approximately 30 Roadsters and stacks of parts, motors, hoods, wheels, etc.. > There is a 213, 67.5 1600, and many other years. I'm pretty sure he isn't > looking to spend time parting them out or selling piecemeal. Make him an > offer for the whole lot. The cars are located between Burr and Wharton, TX. > I took some photos which are located on my webshots page and are numbered > DSC00270-DSC00284. You will probably have to go down to Wharton and drag > them out of the weeds yourself. Mike has a tractor that he would probably > let you use. I bet you could fit a bunch in containers or some other form > of bulk transport. > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2748906430065431685kaQWxb][img]http://thumb5 > .webshots.net/t/62/662/9/6/43/2748906430065431685kaQWxb_th.jpg > > > Contact Mike to make the deal. > fromburr@yahoo.com > > > Thanks, > > Andy Cost > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 21:51:53 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: "'Roadster List'" Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:51:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? -----Original Message----- That's just insane! 30 roadsters! What the heck would you DO with 30 roadsters? For one, you avoid the wife. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 22:04:48 2009 From: Eddie To: SlowBoy Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:05:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? I've got a better plan. Don't HAVE a wife... That way, I can afford more roadsters! LMAO! SlowBoy wrote: > -----Original Message----- > That's just insane! 30 roadsters! What the heck would you DO with 30 > roadsters? > > > For one, you avoid the wife. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 22:19:35 2009 From: "MH" To: "'Roadster List'" Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:17:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? "What the heck would you DO with 30 roadsters? " How about replacing the fuel filler hoses for 23 of them so Eddie can get his piece! LOL! Mike H. -----Original Message----- From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude@socal.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:23 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose >Here's another item I need. The darn Filler neck hose that goes from >the filler neck to the tank. It's an oddball size, 1 7/8" ID. >Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff? I found a place, but he >has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need 6"! >Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not doing that! lol >Eddie ----- Original Message ----- From: "SlowBoy" To: "'Roadster List'" Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? > -----Original Message----- > That's just insane! 30 roadsters! What the heck would you DO with 30 > roadsters? > > > For one, you avoid the wife. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 22:21:11 2009 From: Eddie To: MH Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:21:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? Now that's FUNNY! hahaha. It would be interesting to see how many complete roadsters could be made from the parts of those 30 without having to buy anything but the rubber stuff, etc. It's a good thing that pile is in Texas. I couldn't get it back to Los Angeles... (I could see my neighbors now...) lol Eddie MH wrote: > "What the heck would you DO with 30 roadsters? " > > How about replacing the fuel filler hoses for 23 of them so Eddie can get > his piece! LOL! > > Mike H. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie [mailto:eddietude@socal.rr.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:23 AM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Filler Neck Hose > > >> Here's another item I need. The darn Filler neck hose that goes from >> the filler neck to the tank. It's an oddball size, 1 7/8" ID. >> > > >> Anyone know where I can get 6" of that stuff? I found a place, but he >> has to buy 12 FEET of it, and I only need 6"! >> > > >> Unless there are 23 other people who want a piece, I'm not doing that! lol >> > > >> Eddie >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SlowBoy" > To: "'Roadster List'" > Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> That's just insane! 30 roadsters! What the heck would you DO with 30 >> roadsters? >> >> >> For one, you avoid the wife. >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 23:00:20 2009 From: chalsted@comcast.net To: Andy Cost Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 04:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? no thanks, I already have over 40.... ;-)B B B good thingB texas isn't close by.... Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 23:34:12 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Steve Ehlers" , , Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:35:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose In addition of the possiblility of purchase from Nissan, both Dean (datsunparts.com) and Dann (datsunroadster.com) have the part.** Prices different, but both reasonable. It is a waste of time to agonize about alternatives. Gary ** In fairness to both Dann and Dean (in alphabetical order), I will try to alternate which I mention first. Both are reliable suppliers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ehlers" To: ; Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Filler hose > Hey Eddie, > This part has been available from Nissan . You have to order but it will > be at your local dealer to pickup . Unless you use > one of the Roadster parts vendors and have it shipped to your door . Don't > assume that you can get any and all your parts after market > or Locally . If you find something ,it's usually crap or junk .Do as you > wish ,but are you trying to make a nice ,reliable ,and safe car , > or just band aid your car together ? > Good Luck, > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 00:07:55 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:07:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? Good thing Texas is big. Is he in therapy for his addiction? Sheesh Linda -----Original Message----- From: chalsted@comcast.net To: Andy Cost Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 9:01 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? no thanks, I already have over 40.... ;-)B B B good thingB texas isn't close by.... Craig You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 00:32:15 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:33:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? What addiction? If one has the space and the money, why not? I would. Fortunately, I have neither, so temptation lies behind me. Except for the 1967-1/2 2000 Paul Gabriel restored... I now also have a great third-bay addition to my garage, and an 11x26 storeroom upstairs for all my roadster parts.. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? > Good thing Texas is big. > Is he in therapy for his addiction? Sheesh > > Linda > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: chalsted@comcast.net > To: Andy Cost > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 9:01 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > no thanks, I already have over 40.... ;-)B B B good thingB texas isn't > close > by.... > > Craig > You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 03:17:22 2009 From: Eddie To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:16:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? Agreed 100%. If I had a ton of land, and the cash, I'd grab these in a heartbeat, inventory everything, and start rebuilding those cars that could be saved. Frankly, I think it would be cool if those cars were saved, and I'm guessing that someone could make at least a FEW complete cars out of that entire batch. Eddie Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > What addiction? If one has the space and the money, why not? I > would. Fortunately, I have neither, so temptation lies behind me. > Except for the 1967-1/2 2000 Paul Gabriel restored... > > I now also have a great third-bay addition to my garage, and an 11x26 > storeroom upstairs for all my roadster parts.. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? > > >> Good thing Texas is big. >> Is he in therapy for his addiction? Sheesh >> >> Linda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: chalsted@comcast.net >> To: Andy Cost >> Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 9:01 pm >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> no thanks, I already have over 40.... ;-)B B B good thingB texas >> isn't close >> by.... >> >> Craig >> You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 08:16:32 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: "Roadster List" Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 08:09:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? There are several mostly complete cars in decent shape. There are several that have been chopped up. Mike was a vendor of parts and doing some restorations. In the last few years he has had too much other stuff going on to continue the Datsun business. You could definately build several complete cars from the parts he has and sell bunches of parts if you had the time and inclination to put them on EBAY. Buy the lot, take the few you like home, haul the rest 10 miles to the scrap iron recycler (where they all will end up if someone doesn't buy them). Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 12:10:09 2009 From: Eddie To: Andy Cost Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:10:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? The problem is, stuff isn't selling on ebay, and what is isn't getting a very good price, probably due to the economy. A weekend sports car isn't a necessity, and folks just aren't spending free cash for parts right now. It's a shame that any of that will end up in the scrap heap, as I'm sure that someone, somewhere could use those parts eventually, especially the body panels! (which of course, are the hardest parts to store and keep...) Eddie Andy Cost wrote: > There are several mostly complete cars in decent shape. There are several > that have been chopped up. Mike was a vendor of parts and doing some > restorations. In the last few years he has had too much other stuff going > on to continue the Datsun business. You could definately build several > complete cars from the parts he has and sell bunches of parts if you had the > time and inclination to put them on EBAY. Buy the lot, take the few you > like home, haul the rest 10 miles to the scrap iron recycler (where they all > will end up if someone doesn't buy them). > > Andy > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 12:25:43 2009 From: Eddie To: Andy Cost Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:26:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 30 Roadsters, Anyone? This is starting to sound like a salvage and save mission! Who's in? Eddie Andy Cost wrote: > There are several mostly complete cars in decent shape. There are several > that have been chopped up. Mike was a vendor of parts and doing some > restorations. In the last few years he has had too much other stuff going > on to continue the Datsun business. You could definately build several > complete cars from the parts he has and sell bunches of parts if you had the > time and inclination to put them on EBAY. Buy the lot, take the few you > like home, haul the rest 10 miles to the scrap iron recycler (where they all > will end up if someone doesn't buy them). > > Andy > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 12:45:42 2009 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] weighing my car hi everyone thanks to all who offered advice on where to weigh my car. my friend reminded me that there is a land-fill (dump) very close to here, with scales. i went there yesterday, and the guys were nice enough to let me drive my car up on it. with me in the car, and maybe another 50 lbs of "stuff," we weighed in at 2100 lbs. so without me, and the stuff, figure 1850. because the rules say i must be at least 2030, with driver and safety equipment, i can still lost some weight before incurring any penalty. because the car is pretty stripped, that will be tough. i guess some fiberglass is in our future. i'll be at buttonwillow this next weekend. same weekend as Solvang. so i will miss that. again. steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 20:50:37 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:51:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start.... Ok, so it's wired up, the starter turns, fuel is at the carbs, I have spark at the distributor, but the car won't start. I've got a couple of questions that the darn manual isn't clear about. My car is a 1966, the motor is an H20 1600. 1) Is TDC the large mark on the pulley? (When viewed from the front, with the pulley set with the marks on top, the other marks would be to the right of the largest mark.) 2) Is the "pointer" the line that's part of the timing chain cover? 3) When the car is set at TDC, should the rotor be pointed at the #1 cylinder? 4) At that position, should the points be open? Thanks guys. This is driving me NUTS. I'm literally steps away from getting the car to go to Solvang, but at this pace it may not happen... Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 21:39:38 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: eddietude@socal.rr.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:39:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It won't start.... Eddie, Until the cavalry shows..... 1Yes large mark all the way to the left as you face the pulley 2 My car has a pointer on it not sure how that corresponds 3 rotor should be pointing to wire that goes to #1 spark plug 4 I don't have points sorry. If you left the key on they can byrn, from what I remember. Your coil and condenser should be new. Be sure your cap wires are correct? for firing order. Also if dizzy is installed 180 deg out your #1 wire at cap will be different. Good luck Linda -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 6:51 pm Subject: [Roadsters] It won't start.... Ok, so it's wired up, the starter turns, fuel is at the carbs, I have spark at the distributor, but the car won't start. ? I've got a couple of questions that the darn manual isn't clear about.? ? My car is a 1966, the motor is an H20 1600. ? 1) Is TDC the large mark on the pulley? (When viewed from the front, with the pulley set with the marks on top, the other marks would be to the right of the largest mark.)? ? 2) Is the "pointer" the line that's part of the timing chain cover? ? 3) When the car is set at TDC, should the rotor be pointed at the #1 cylinder?? ? 4) At that position, should the points be open?? ? Thanks guys. This is driving me NUTS. I'm literally steps away from getting the car to go to Solvang, but at this pace it may not happen...? ? Eddie? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 21:40:03 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: tom@datsun2000.com, "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:39:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS I think you're lucky it blew out the side and not more straight up! Glad you were not injured. Interesting to note that when I was growing up around and working on cars I was always taught to remove the cable from the positive post of the battery. It seems now that it is always made a point to remove the NEGATIVE post first. I'm wondering if I was taught wrong years ago, or is this something that has crept in with all the computers and electronics in cars? Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" > What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the > battery > when you are working on your car? > > Nothing....... usually > > http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm > > But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the ears. > I > accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle and > the battery exploded. Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it > was > easily washed off. I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses caught > a > few small dots and nothing got into my eyes. > > Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the car > again? Yeah, I probably will. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 21:46:19 2009 From: "oliver" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:46:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS i think it has to do with safety. i was taught to always take the negative off first. the reason given was that if you remove the positive first, and the wrench strikes the body, engine, etc, there will be a spark. if you remove the negative first, this is not the case. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: ; "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS >I think you're lucky it blew out the side and not more straight up! Glad >you were not injured. > Interesting to note that when I was growing up around and working on cars > I was always taught to remove the cable from the positive post of the > battery. > It seems now that it is always made a point to remove the NEGATIVE post > first. > I'm wondering if I was taught wrong years ago, or is this something that > has crept in with all the computers and electronics in cars? > > Daryl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" > > >> What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the >> battery >> when you are working on your car? >> >> Nothing....... usually >> >> http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm >> >> But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the ears. >> I >> accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle and >> the battery exploded. Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it >> was >> easily washed off. I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses >> caught a >> few small dots and nothing got into my eyes. >> >> Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the car >> again? Yeah, I probably will. >> >> Tom >> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >> Portland ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 22:00:38 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "oliver" , "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:01:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS Oliver's right. I know from an experience one time when I got lazy. Lucky it was just a spark. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS >i think it has to do with safety. i was taught to always take the negative >off first. the reason given was that if you remove the positive first, and >the wrench strikes the body, engine, etc, there will be a spark. if you >remove the negative first, this is not the case. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daryl Smith" > To: ; "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" > > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS > > >>I think you're lucky it blew out the side and not more straight up! Glad >>you were not injured. >> Interesting to note that when I was growing up around and working on cars >> I was always taught to remove the cable from the positive post of the >> battery. >> It seems now that it is always made a point to remove the NEGATIVE post >> first. >> I'm wondering if I was taught wrong years ago, or is this something that >> has crept in with all the computers and electronics in cars? >> >> Daryl >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" >> >> >>> What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the >>> battery >>> when you are working on your car? >>> >>> Nothing....... usually >>> >>> http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm >>> >>> But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the >>> ears. I >>> accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle >>> and >>> the battery exploded. Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it >>> was >>> easily washed off. I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses >>> caught a >>> few small dots and nothing got into my eyes. >>> >>> Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the >>> car >>> again? Yeah, I probably will. >>> >>> Tom >>> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >>> Portland > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 22:04:03 2009 From: "Bubba" To: "oliver" , "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:04:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS If you're old enough, disconnecting the positive may be right. Vehicles used to be positive ground. Bob Winslade ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS >i think it has to do with safety. i was taught to always take the negative >off first. the reason given was that if you remove the positive first, and >the wrench strikes the body, engine, etc, there will be a spark. if you >remove the negative first, this is not the case. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daryl Smith" > To: ; "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" > > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OOPS > > >>I think you're lucky it blew out the side and not more straight up! Glad >>you were not injured. >> Interesting to note that when I was growing up around and working on cars >> I was always taught to remove the cable from the positive post of the >> battery. >> It seems now that it is always made a point to remove the NEGATIVE post >> first. >> I'm wondering if I was taught wrong years ago, or is this something that >> has crept in with all the computers and electronics in cars? >> >> Daryl >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" >> >> >>> What might happen when you don't disconnect the negative lead of the >>> battery >>> when you are working on your car? >>> >>> Nothing....... usually >>> >>> http://www.datsun2000.com/battery.htm >>> >>> But when something does happen it is dramatic, and very hard on the >>> ears. I >>> accidentally touched the positive pole with a grounded ratchet handle >>> and >>> the battery exploded. Fortunately I did not get much acid on me and it >>> was >>> easily washed off. I suspect it was only dumb luck that my glasses >>> caught a >>> few small dots and nothing got into my eyes. >>> >>> Will I disconnect the negative lead on the battery when I work on the >>> car >>> again? Yeah, I probably will. >>> >>> Tom >>> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >>> Portland > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 22:27:30 2009 From: Eddie To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:28:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] It won't start.... YUP. All of that is done. As I'm looking at this thing I'm starting to think perhaps the guy who built the motor may have put something in off a tooth.... It just doesn't seem right. Eddie ljordan704@netscape.net wrote: > Eddie, > Until the cavalry shows..... > 1Yes large mark all the way to the left as you face the pulley 2 My > car has a pointer on it not sure how that corresponds 3 rotor should > be pointing to wire that goes to #1 spark plug 4 I don't have points > sorry. If you left the key on they can byrn, from what I remember. > Your coil and condenser should be new. Be sure your cap wires are > correct for firing order. Also if dizzy is installed 180 deg out your > #1 wire at cap will be different. > Good luck > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie > To: Datsun Roadster List