From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 1 06:17:55 2009 From: "oliver" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:14:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? i wouldn't put in another starter yet. i don't think its a gear reduction vs standard starter issue. could it be a short? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Ritchie Labate" ; Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? > Forget the gear-reduction starters and put a real starter in the car. A > stock starter cranks my '66 1600/2000 at 10 below after sitting outside > overnight, so I see no reason to use anything else. I have a > gear-reduction starter (almost new) I took out of my '67-1/2 2000. I > consider it to be junk, but I am willing to sell it to anyone who really > wants one. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ritchie Labate" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:45 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? > > >>I need help with my '68 2000. About a year ago, I replaced the original >>starter with the recommended Nissan forklift gear-reduction type as posted >>on our wiki section. Worked fine for about 6 trips. Installed new headers, >>leaving the shop, 10 minutes later, I hear a high pitch whirling sound, >>then smoke from under the hood, I shut it down. Was told by a mechanic its >>the starter. I replaced it with another forklift starter, drove it maybe a >>dozen more times. Last weekend, started up in the garage, idled for 10 >>minutes when I went inside, came back, heard the whirling sound, then >>smoking. Immediately shut it down, looked underneath, saw smoke coming >>from starter, not able to start it again. What the heck?? Mechanic said >>maybe solenoid, not disengaging flywheel, and burning up the solder >>inside. It did smell like an electrical fire. Could it be anything else? >>Ignition system? Why does it appear to work a few times than fails? I'm >>hesitant to go ahead and >> throw in this new starter at this point. Should I take it to an >> electrical specialist to diagnose first? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Ritch ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 1 12:21:31 2009 From: "E Scanlon" To: "Ritchie Labate" , Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:19:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? >I need help with my '68 2000. About a year ago, I replaced the original >starter ...snip... Worked fine for about 6 trips. Installed new headers, leaving the shop, 10 minutes later, I hear a high pitch whirling sound, then smoke from under the hood, I shut it down. Was told by a mechanic its the starter. I replaced it ...(and)..., drove it maybe a dozen more times. Last weekend, started up in the garage, idled for 10 minutes when I went inside, came back, heard the whirling sound, then smoking. Immediately shut it down, looked underneath, saw smoke coming from starter, not able to start it again. What the heck?? Mechanic said maybe solenoid, not disengaging flywheel, and burning up the solder inside. It did smell like an electrical fire. Could it be anything else? Ignition system? Why does it appear to work a few times than fails? I'm hesitant to go ahead and throw in this new starter at this point. Should I take it to an electrical specialist to diagnose first? > > Thanks! > > Ritch > I can't claim a lot of mechanical expertise, but it seems as though you already HAVE diagnosed the problem, but you haven't mentioned it. If' I read your post correctly (albeit edited above), the starter seems to ENGAGE WHILE the engine is running. That doesn't sound as though the solenoid isn't disengaging from the initial start, but rather that it RE-engages AFTER the car has been running a while. Which can be caused by a short in the starter circuit that is actuating the solenoid and causing the starter to engage... or if memory serves right, a weak return spring on the starter gear with the same results. And if I've mis-phrased it, I hope others can explain it better. Thoughts? E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 1 12:48:10 2009 From: Pete Peters To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? Why the strong anti-gear reduction starter comment, Gary? Quite a few folks running them without issue. I'm wondering if the new headers are overheating the starter. Why did you replace the original starter? Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 5:14:25 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? i wouldn't put in another starter yet. i don't think its a gear reduction vs standard starter issue. could it be a short? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Ritchie Labate" ; Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? Forget the gear-reduction starters and put a real starter in the car. A stock starter cranks my '66 1600/2000 at 10 below after sitting outside overnight, so I see no reason to use anything else. I have a gear-reduction starter (almost new) I took out of my '67-1/2 2000. I consider it to be junk, but I am willing to sell it to anyone who really wants one. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ritchie Labate" To: "'E Scanlon'" , "'Ritchie Labate'" Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:44:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? Normally once an engine is up to idle speed, the solenoid on a starter will not get the starter engaged to the flywheel again. My guess is the starter never let go of the flywheel. The windings won't start to burn for a few miles, depending on the engine speed. (BTDT!) Or maybe the switch isn't returning to the ON position, keeping the solenoid engaged? Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- I can't claim a lot of mechanical expertise, but it seems as though you already HAVE diagnosed the problem, but you haven't mentioned it. If' I read your post correctly (albeit edited above), the starter seems to ENGAGE WHILE the engine is running. That doesn't sound as though the solenoid isn't disengaging from the initial start, but rather that it RE-engages AFTER the car has been running a while. Which can be caused by a short in the starter circuit that is actuating the solenoid and causing the starter to engage... or if memory serves right, a weak return spring on the starter gear with the same results. And if I've mis-phrased it, I hope others can explain it better. Thoughts? E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 1 15:03:11 2009 From: "oliver" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:58:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? could it be that the gear reduction starter is not positioned correctly and doesn't totally un-engage? is the spacing correct? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'E Scanlon'" ; "'Ritchie Labate'" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? > Normally once an engine is up to idle speed, the solenoid on a starter > will not get the starter engaged to the flywheel again. My guess is the > starter never let go of the flywheel. The windings won't start to burn > for > a few miles, depending on the engine speed. (BTDT!) > Or maybe the switch isn't returning to the ON position, keeping the > solenoid engaged? > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 1 15:41:11 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'oliver'" , Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:40:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? Excellent thought! Could be an alignment problem. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 4:58 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? could it be that the gear reduction starter is not positioned correctly and doesn't totally un-engage? is the spacing correct? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'E Scanlon'" ; "'Ritchie Labate'" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? > Normally once an engine is up to idle speed, the solenoid on a starter > will not get the starter engaged to the flywheel again. My guess is the > starter never let go of the flywheel. The windings won't start to burn > for > a few miles, depending on the engine speed. (BTDT!) > Or maybe the switch isn't returning to the ON position, keeping the > solenoid engaged? > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 1 15:49:33 2009 From: "dave" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:47:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? The only thing I know that can be different with the forklift starters is the # of teeth on the pinion, IIRC 8 or 9 tooth is available for the H20, and 9 is correct for a Roadster. I wouldn't think heat was an issue, as the starter is farther from the exhaust than most originals, and forklifts run pretty hot. Except for the real risk of a fire, tossing in an OEM starter may or may not resolve it, and may cook another starter. I would lean more toward what Oliver suggests, a wiring or ignition switch issue keeping the starter "on" as more likley than 2 bad starters in a row. The starter harnesses and the plugs are notorious for corroding and melting. Now if the starter is a cheap Chinese knockoff, way too commom these days, and not a Nissan or other quality made part, that may be another reason for failure. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: oliver [mailto:sumton@sbcglobal.net] Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? i wouldn't put in another starter yet. i don't think its a gear reduction vs standard starter issue. could it be a short? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 1 16:51:52 2009 From: "E Scanlon" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'Ritchie Labate'" Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:50:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? Good point, but why would he allow the engine to idle both times with the "high pitch whirling sound" that it was making prior to burning up the starter?. Or phrased a different way, why would he note a "different" sound upon returning to the car if the starter never disengaged? Just my 2" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? > Normally once an engine is up to idle speed, the solenoid on a starter > will not get the starter engaged to the flywheel again. My guess is the > starter never let go of the flywheel. The windings won't start to burn > for > a few miles, depending on the engine speed. (BTDT!) > Or maybe the switch isn't returning to the ON position, keeping the > solenoid engaged? > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > > I can't claim a lot of mechanical expertise, but it seems as though you > already HAVE diagnosed the problem, but you haven't mentioned it. > > If' I read your post correctly (albeit edited above), the starter seems to > ENGAGE WHILE the engine is running. That doesn't sound as though the > solenoid isn't disengaging from the initial start, but rather that it > RE-engages AFTER the car has been running a while. > > Which can be caused by a short in the starter circuit that is actuating > the > solenoid and causing the starter to engage... or if memory serves right, a > weak return spring on the starter gear with the same results. And if I've > mis-phrased it, I hope others can explain it better. > > Thoughts? > E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 1 20:48:40 2009 From: "Richard Brown" To: "E Scanlon" , "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:46:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? Because the ignition is stuck in the start position. The motor is still spinning. I don't think it was designed to run for long times. I have had two ignition switches do that to me. The first time it happened it took me a few minutes to figure out what the sound was. It didn't happen every time, but when it did I could move the key and the sound would go away. I never had one run long enough to burn up the starter. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Scanlon" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>; "'Ritchie Labate'" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? > Good point, but why would he allow the engine to idle both times with the > "high pitch whirling sound" that it was making prior to burning up the > starter?. Or phrased a different way, why would he note a "different" > sound upon returning to the car if the starter never disengaged? > > Just my 2" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:44 PM > Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? > > >> Normally once an engine is up to idle speed, the solenoid on a starter >> will not get the starter engaged to the flywheel again. My guess is the >> starter never let go of the flywheel. The windings won't start to burn >> for >> a few miles, depending on the engine speed. (BTDT!) >> Or maybe the switch isn't returning to the ON position, keeping the >> solenoid engaged? >> >> Paul >> Ohio >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> I can't claim a lot of mechanical expertise, but it seems as though you >> already HAVE diagnosed the problem, but you haven't mentioned it. >> >> If' I read your post correctly (albeit edited above), the starter seems >> to >> ENGAGE WHILE the engine is running. That doesn't sound as though the >> solenoid isn't disengaging from the initial start, but rather that it >> RE-engages AFTER the car has been running a while. >> >> Which can be caused by a short in the starter circuit that is actuating >> the >> solenoid and causing the starter to engage... or if memory serves right, >> a >> weak return spring on the starter gear with the same results. And if >> I've >> mis-phrased it, I hope others can explain it better. >> >> Thoughts? >> E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 1 22:03:45 2009 From: "dave" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:57:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? The only thing I could think would spontaniously re-engage the starter is the switch or the a short in the starter harness. Someone mentioned somewhere, I forget, the gear reduction is a bit different from the originalBendix type. The gear is pushed out to engage the flywheel, them it starts spinning after it's fully extended. We shall see, I'm sure the problem will be found. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: E Scanlon [mailto:escanlon@wa-net.com] e? Good point, but why would he allow the engine to idle both times with the "high pitch whirling sound" that it was making prior to burning up the starter?. Or phrased a different way, why would he note a "different" sound upon returning to the car if the starter never disengaged? Just my 2" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? > Normally once an engine is up to idle speed, the solenoid on a > starter will not get the starter engaged to the flywheel again. My > guess is the starter never let go of the flywheel. The windings won't > start to burn for a few miles, depending on the engine speed. (BTDT!) > Or maybe the switch isn't returning to the ON position, keeping the > solenoid engaged? > > Paul > Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > > I can't claim a lot of mechanical expertise, but it seems as though > you already HAVE diagnosed the problem, but you haven't mentioned it. > > If' I read your post correctly (albeit edited above), the starter > seems to ENGAGE WHILE the engine is running. That doesn't sound as > though the solenoid isn't disengaging from the initial start, but > rather that it RE-engages AFTER the car has been running a while. > > Which can be caused by a short in the starter circuit that is > actuating > the > solenoid and causing the starter to engage... or if memory serves right, a > weak return spring on the starter gear with the same results. And if I've > mis-phrased it, I hope others can explain it better. > > Thoughts? > E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 2 06:21:02 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 5:19:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] BaT--Miatsun: 1966 Datsun SPL311 Roadster Interesting build Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 2 12:43:20 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:30:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Stuff You may Be Interested In I got a free 3 Main block. It came with a car a family unloaded after the owner passed away. He was in the middle of a restoration. The cylinders appear to have been done. The block and pan were painted. On the crank it is written "Mains Only 010" and I have it sitting on an engine stand that is also free. I am in the Phoenix Arizona area. Also have another new NISSAN high windshield and gasket available for sale. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 2 13:20:58 2009 From: Eric Gillis To: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:14:21 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta T-shirts and Midwest Run Thanks! The Twenty-Fifth Shasta Datsun Meet is ONE week away!! I will be printing up some tee shirts and a few polos for Shasta's twenty-fifth this year. I put together a design for the dash plaque and used similar art for the tees. Pricing will be about $20 for tees and $25 for polos. If there is much interest, I know the pricing for tees will decrease to about $18. Here are the links to the front and back designs. http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/114537916 and http://www.pbase.com/egillis/image/114538073 If you would like a polo type shirt (no promises on pockets, sorry) email me by Monday the size and I will have it for you (also, polo types, if you just want the front design only screened, please specify) Again Monday is printing day, I will only have a limited number available (40 or less), if you need a 'special' size (L - XXL will be available at show) email me (please don't bomb the list, only mkiisupra@hotmail.com) and I will attempt to accomodate as well as I can. Also, as I return to The Golden/IOU State, I wanted to thank Tim Putland and his merry gang of roadsterites in the Midwest. It was a blast running the hills and flats of the midwest and to appreciate the 'Dry' heat of the Central Valley of CA. I have posted photos of our fun at http://www.pbase.com/egillis/midwest_roadster_run_09 There are also a couple of photos for those folks I met that weekend of my Roadster at the Modesto American Graffiti Show two weeks previous. Enjoy your ride, Eric Gillis _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC thats right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 3 14:52:57 2009 From: Les Cannaday To: 311 List , 510LIST Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone need a car moved from west to east Anyone who may be thinking of purchasing a car from west coast and wants it moved east as far as New Hampshire or almost anywhere in between we have an empty trailer leaving from San Diego on Tue or wed next week for a rather sudden trip to pick up a car in NH so for less than half what it cost to ship a car these days My friend Can take a car east for someone. Contact me if you are interested in this. Les 760-940-6365 Les Cannaday Classic Datsun Motorsports 345 Olive Ave Vista, CA 92083 (760)940-6365 (866)288-8340 fax ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 3 17:38:00 2009 From: "barterdude" To: , "'311 List'" Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:34:51 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Anyone need a car moved from west to east If anyone is looking for a nice running/looking '69 2000 from the east, maybe Les could bring it too you and check it out if you want. I am willing to drop my price to anything on the plus side of reasonable. I have over $13 in restoration costs. Check it out at http://www.wycroc.org/ and click on the 4 SALE link on the left. Cheers -- Gary Lasater -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Les Cannaday Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 2:43 PM To: 311 List; 510LIST Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone need a car moved from west to east Anyone who may be thinking of purchasing a car from west coast and wants it moved east as far as New Hampshire or almost anywhere in between we have an empty trailer leaving from San Diego on Tue or wed next week for a rather sudden trip to pick up a car in NH so for less than half what it cost to ship a car these days My friend Can take a car east for someone. Contact me if you are interested in this. Les 760-940-6365 Les Cannaday Classic Datsun Motorsports 345 Olive Ave Vista, CA 92083 (760)940-6365 (866)288-8340 fax Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2214 - Release Date: 07/03/09 05:53:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 6 11:14:47 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:13:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1600 on Craigslist http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1254207676.html I don't know anything more about this car other than "I saw it on CraigsList". Maybe you could use it to fill all that extra garage space you have. ;-) Greg Morrison SRL31100494 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 8 07:33:54 2009 From: Bill Cole To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:21:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] H-190 rearends Hi, this past weekend I brought home an Aluminum cased H-190 that came with some other Datsun parts. It was obvious that is was not an open unit, and after disassembling it to inspect it I realised it has a Detroit Locker or something similar to it hidden within the casing. I believe the ratio is 488 and it also has the pickup side gears in it. Has anyone ever found replacement "Locker"sidegears for the 24mm x 23 splined axles that our Roadsters have?Bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 8 12:20:41 2009 From: "Tillinger, Richard (OLN)" To: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:14:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] H-190 rearends (Detroit Locker) Hi Bill (et. al.), It is a Detroit Locker if the end away from the ring gear is conical; it is a "Posi" (limited slip) if it is cylindrical all the way. I do not have the side gears as separate items (and don't know where to get them), but I do have a complete Detroit Locker for Roadster axles available if you or anyone else is interested. Regards, Dick Tillinger Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:21:03 -0700 From: Bill Cole Subject: [Roadsters] H-190 rearends To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Hi, this past weekend I brought home an Aluminum cased H-190 that came with some other Datsun parts. It was obvious that is was not an open unit, and after disassembling it to inspect it I realised it has a Detroit Locker or something similar to it hidden within the casing. I believe the ratio is 488 and it also has the pickup side gears in it. Has anyone ever found replacement "Locker"sidegears for the 24mm x 23 splined axles that our Roadsters have? Bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 8 15:45:53 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Southbound to Shasta For the folks not on the 311s.org forums: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10181 2 roadsters leaving Corvallis, OR sometime on Thursday. Bill Cole leaving Corvallis, OR on Friday at 6am Michael Spreadbury (4 roadsters) leaving Corvallis, OR late Friday afternoon. Tim Steen leaving Lynnwood, WA (just north of Seattle) on Friday at 5am (maybe later if Pete is going) Pete leaving Lake Forest Park, WA (just north of Seattle) Friday morning -IF- car is ready. Greg and Barbie? Bueller? Pete "installing/bleeding brakes tonight, then......" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 8 16:00:48 2009 From: "Mark W" To: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:54:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] free roadster stuff Hi all, Sold my 1600 years ago to make room for a Ducati, digging around the garage and shed and came up with a few things to someone who want to pick them all up in Fullerton, CA. Convertible Frame (4) Oil Based Carbs - 2 pair Alternator (2) Datsun 1600 Badges (2) Headlight Chrome Frames Fan Blades Contact me at my email and we can go from there. Thanks, Mark ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 8 18:17:03 2009 From: Keith Downing To: Mark W , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] free roadster stuff I'm in the neighborhood, but I have a '64 1500, but thanks for the offer. Best Wishes, Keith Downing ________________________________ From: Mark W To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 2:54:22 PM Subject: [Roadsters] free roadster stuff Hi all, Sold my 1600 years ago to make room for a Ducati, digging around the garage and shed and came up with a few things to someone who want to pick them all up in Fullerton, CA. Convertible Frame (4) Oil Based Carbs - 2 pair Alternator (2) Datsun 1600 Badges (2) Headlight Chrome Frames Fan Blades Contact me at my email and we can go from there. Thanks, Mark ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as keithddowning@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 8 18:35:11 2009 From: Bill Cole To: "Tillinger, Richard (OLN)" Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:28:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] H-190 rearends (Detroit Locker) The unit is the conical one that you decribed, the Detriot Locker 187S-68269 with the same #'s that Gordon mentioned for the ratio. It is good to know that there are possible leads and the roadster sidegears do or did exist at one time. Thanks... Bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 8 20:01:30 2009 From: "Mark W" To: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:56:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Free Roadster Parts Sorry all, I thought I sent an email out at 4:15 local to say that they have found a new home, thanks all. Mark W. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 9 13:30:04 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "bluebirds" , Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:22:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun slot cars f/s http://detroit.craigslist.org/tag/1260571937.html Just spotted this today. No connection. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 9 13:45:03 2009 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:34:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole I am to the point of putting the carpet in. The hole for the stick shift in the transmission tunnel seems to big. I ordered a rubber boot, but it does not cover the hole. It is only the size of the trim plate hole. How do most people keep out road dirt and spray? Photos anyone? I was thinking something out of a rubber shower pan gasket, leaving just enough room for the stick shift movement. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2633034460048273787MHkzny John SPL311-19356 http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 9 14:00:00 2009 From: Eddie To: JohnnyRoadster Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:56:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole Interesting. My hole was the exact same size as the trim plate hole. Not sure how you'd cover that... Eddie JohnnyRoadster wrote: > I am to the point of putting the carpet in. The hole for the stick shift in > the transmission tunnel seems to big. I ordered a rubber boot, but it does > not cover the hole. It is only the size of the trim plate hole. How do most > people keep out road dirt and spray? Photos anyone? I was thinking something > out of a rubber shower pan gasket, leaving just enough room for the stick > shift movement. > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2633034460048273787MHkzny > > > > John > > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 01:14:55 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "JohnnyRoadster" , Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:43:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole John, Here's my take: The 4-speed trans and the 5-speed trans shifters are positioned differently -- the 4-speed penetrates the tunnel further back than the 5-speed. My '66 car has a hole in the tunnel the same size (about) as the hole in the trim plate. When Nissan introduced the 2000 in March of 1967, I believe the changed the tunnel design and enlarged the hole to accommodate either transmission. My '67-1/2 2000 has a tunnel hole which will accommodate either trans. I believe, but do not know for sure, that this is standard on the later cars. My recommendation: Cut the carpet out around the entire opening, put the boot on the trim plate and don't worry about it. The top of the trans tunnel is pretty well shielded from "road junk". I can send you a photo of my trans tunnel, but I think all it will show is that mine looks like yours. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:34 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole >I am to the point of putting the carpet in. The hole for the stick shift >in > the transmission tunnel seems to big. I ordered a rubber boot, but it > does > not cover the hole. It is only the size of the trim plate hole. How do > most > people keep out road dirt and spray? Photos anyone? I was thinking > something > out of a rubber shower pan gasket, leaving just enough room for the stick > shift movement. > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2633034460048273787MHkzny > > > > John > > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 01:21:01 2009 From: "James Fogg" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Lower ball joints I recall an effort among the list members to have Roadster ball joints manufactured. A friend needs some lower ball joints, does anyone have any available and for how much? Offlist would be fine, james@jdfogg.com. Thanks. -- James - ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 05:36:46 2009 From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: "JohnnyRoadster" , Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:49:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole Well, maybe I should dig out the trim plate? I do not remember it being as large as the hole I am seeing in the tunnel. Maybe I ordered the wrong boot. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole >I am to the point of putting the carpet in. The hole for the stick shift >in > the transmission tunnel seems to big. I ordered a rubber boot, but it > does > not cover the hole. It is only the size of the trim plate hole. How do > most > people keep out road dirt and spray? Photos anyone? I was thinking > something > out of a rubber shower pan gasket, leaving just enough room for the stick > shift movement. > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2633034460048273787MHkzny > > > > John > > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 07:30:37 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'JohnnyRoadster'" , Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:30:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole My parts manual is missing a few pages but I seem to remember different boots for early vs late roadsters as well as inner and outer boots. And I think the inner boot is no longer available. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JohnnyRoadster Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:50 PM To: JohnnyRoadster; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole Well, maybe I should dig out the trim plate? I do not remember it being as large as the hole I am seeing in the tunnel. Maybe I ordered the wrong boot. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole >I am to the point of putting the carpet in. The hole for the stick shift >in > the transmission tunnel seems to big. I ordered a rubber boot, but it > does > not cover the hole. It is only the size of the trim plate hole. How do > most > people keep out road dirt and spray? Photos anyone? I was thinking > something > out of a rubber shower pan gasket, leaving just enough room for the stick > shift movement. > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2633034460048273787MHkzny > > > > John > > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/ You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 07:49:52 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:48:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole Dean shows three different shift boots: Part #1405: 65-67 Part #1406: 67.5 Part #1407: 68-70 --> There are two different versions with the smaller one NLA. Pete "headed back out and under the car" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:30 AM To: 'JohnnyRoadster'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole My parts manual is missing a few pages but I seem to remember different boots for early vs late roadsters as well as inner and outer boots. And I think the inner boot is no longer available. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JohnnyRoadster Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:50 PM To: JohnnyRoadster; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole Well, maybe I should dig out the trim plate? I do not remember it being as large as the hole I am seeing in the tunnel. Maybe I ordered the wrong boot. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole >I am to the point of putting the carpet in. The hole for the stick shift >in > the transmission tunnel seems to big. I ordered a rubber boot, but it > does > not cover the hole. It is only the size of the trim plate hole. How do > most > people keep out road dirt and spray? Photos anyone? I was thinking > something > out of a rubber shower pan gasket, leaving just enough room for the stick > shift movement. > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2633034460048273787MHkzny > > > > John > > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/ You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 08:34:29 2009 From: "MH" To: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:30:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole Rallye's website has great info and pics of the tunnel holes. Here is the link: http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/PARTS_INFO_PAGES/floor_info.htm Another useful page, (and there are many!): http://www.datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm#DIFFERENCES More info about the boots: http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/PARTS_INFO_PAGES/328-05_info.htm http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/NEW_PARTS_PIC_PAGES/328-04.htm I'm always amazed when I go back and review the wealth of information that is freely shared on Dann's website. It's much more than another source for Roadster parts. Mike H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "JohnnyRoadster" ; Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole > John, > > Here's my take: > > The 4-speed trans and the 5-speed trans shifters are positioned > differently -- the 4-speed penetrates the tunnel further back than the > 5-speed. My '66 car has a hole in the tunnel the same size (about) as the > hole in the trim plate. When Nissan introduced the 2000 in March of 1967, I > believe the changed the tunnel design and enlarged the hole to accommodate > either transmission. My '67-1/2 2000 has a tunnel hole which will > accommodate either trans. I believe, but do not know for sure, that this is > standard on the later cars. > > My recommendation: Cut the carpet out around the entire opening, put the > boot on the trim plate and don't worry about it. The top of the trans > tunnel is pretty well shielded from "road junk". > > I can send you a photo of my trans tunnel, but I think all it will show is > that mine looks like yours. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JohnnyRoadster" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:34 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole > > > >I am to the point of putting the carpet in. The hole for the stick shift > >in > > the transmission tunnel seems to big. I ordered a rubber boot, but it > > does > > not cover the hole. It is only the size of the trim plate hole. How do > > most > > people keep out road dirt and spray? Photos anyone? I was thinking > > something > > out of a rubber shower pan gasket, leaving just enough room for the stick > > shift movement. > > > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2633034460048273787MHkzny > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > SPL311-19356 > > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > > http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/ > > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 09:31:03 2009 From: L J To: , Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:28:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Lower ball joints Hi Jim,Lower ball joints are available thru vendors for OEM. The aftermarket ones that were recently made are available direct from Rareparts, at rareparts.com the manufacturer, or your local auto parts store ordering from Rareparts. The 311 site in the WIKI section, under Parts Interchange shows the part number, which I don't know off hand. I am biased towards this part since I was involved in getting them made and I have all the specs and testing on them, plus they are greasable, and are based on the early, full-ball ball joint from Nissan as opposed to the later 1/2 ball part. I believe them to be better than OEM( better machining, quality control etc) and haven't had any problems with them and only a few returns due to the buyer not being able to use them. The fact that Rareparts sells them is a powerful selling point for many since they are a good company, and that is their whole business.Those early faithful got a smokin' deal tooHope that helps. Any other questions please feel free to email.Linda > Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:20:27 -0400 > From: james@jdfogg.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Lower ball joints > > I recall an effort among the list members to have Roadster ball joints > manufactured. > > A friend needs some lower ball joints, does anyone have any available and > for how much? > > Offlist would be fine, james@jdfogg.com. > > Thanks. > > -- > James - > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 13:15:40 2009 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, JohnnyRoadster Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole Dean has both the inner and outer late boots, and may have the early, single-piece boot. There was also a late single-piece late boot as I recall. Dann has the early single-piece boots, and the later inner boot, but not the late outer (vinnyl) boots. Gary ________________________________ From: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> To: JohnnyRoadster ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:30:17 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole My parts manual is missing a few pages but I seem to remember different boots for early vs late roadsters as well as inner and outer boots. And I think the inner boot is no longer available. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JohnnyRoadster Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:50 PM To: JohnnyRoadster; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole Well, maybe I should dig out the trim plate? I do not remember it being as large as the hole I am seeing in the tunnel. Maybe I ordered the wrong boot. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnnyRoadster" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole >I am to the point of putting the carpet in. The hole for the stick shift >in > the transmission tunnel seems to big. I ordered a rubber boot, but it > does > not cover the hole. It is only the size of the trim plate hole. How do > most > people keep out road dirt and spray? Photos anyone? I was thinking > something > out of a rubber shower pan gasket, leaving just enough room for the stick > shift movement. > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2633034460048273787MHkzny > > > > John > > > SPL311-19356 > http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster > http://united2311ster.googlepages.com/ You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 13:28:38 2009 From: Jerry Krakauer To: Gary and Cindy Ault , Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:23:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole BTW, a good fit on that inner boot is important, I can remember when just a crack in the rubber let an awful lot of heat in. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>; "JohnnyRoadster" ; Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stick Shift hole > Dean has both the inner and outer late boots, and may have the early, > single-piece boot. There was also a late single-piece late boot as I > recall. > Dann has the early single-piece boots, and the later inner boot, but not > the > late outer (vinnyl) boots. > > Gary ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 15:22:13 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:25:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Clutch slave cylinder What is the normal position of the clutch release arm; front or rear? Reason I'm asking is that I think my clutch slave cylinder is frozen in the 'release the clutch' position. Any way to test this, or should I just give up and replace the clutch slave? Pete "still trying to make Shasta, but wondering what's gonna bite me next.." ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 16:29:23 2009 From: harris_seq@yahoo.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Shifter Boot You are missing a plate that should cover nearly half of the hole, in a 4 speed car the hole is partly covered at the front & on a 5 speed it is covered at the rear. The missing piece is spot welded in ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 19:02:28 2009 From: Jim In Virginia To: Datsun Roadsters send mail Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:02:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Craig Halstead Hi List! Has anyone heard or seen Craig Halstead lately (sometimes known as "The hobbit of roadster Mountain).....good guy but I am worried that he has moved or something?!?! Thanks, Jim Chesapeake Va _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 19:16:56 2009 From: Keith Downing To: Jim In Virginia , Datsun Roadsters send Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Craig Halstead I bought some things from him in March. His email is chalsted@comcast.net Keith ________________________________ From: Jim In Virginia To: Datsun Roadsters send mail Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:02:02 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Craig Halstead Hi List! Has anyone heard or seen Craig Halstead lately (sometimes known as "The hobbit of roadster Mountain).....good guy but I am worried that he has moved or something?!?! Thanks, Jim Chesapeake Va _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as keithddowning@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 19:21:21 2009 From: Jim In Virginia To: , Datsun Roadsters send mail Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:20:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Craig Halstead Thanks! Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:16:28 -0700 From: keithddowning@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Craig Halstead To: wrenchorhammer@live.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net I bought some things from him in March. His email is chalsted@comcast.net Keith From: Jim In Virginia To: Datsun Roadsters send mail Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:02:02 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Craig Halstead Hi List! Has anyone heard or seen Craig Halstead lately (sometimes known as "The hobbit of roadster Mountain).....good guy but I am worried that he has moved or something?!?! Thanks, Jim Chesapeake Va _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 You are subscribed as keithddowning@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC thats right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 10 21:01:43 2009 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:59:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] test Test, I am not receiving emails from the list.? However, I am getting some from the Triumph list. What's up? John Over jover4x4@aol.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 11 12:15:22 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:12:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Buzzer Can someone take a picture of their mounted buzzer? I need to see where it is located as that folder on my computer is now gone. Thanks! Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 11 19:48:41 2009 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: slowboy@cox.net Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:47:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1970 Buzzer I have a 70 that I am doing a frame off on. I believe the buzzer was next to the wiper and flasher relays on the left firewall of the drivers side. Dave -----Original Message----- From: SlowBoy To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:12 pm Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Buzzer Can someone take a picture of their mounted buzzer? I need to see where it is located as that folder on my computer is now gone. Thanks! Jim You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 11 21:34:33 2009 From: "E Scanlon" To: , Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:34:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test The Triumph list insists we haven't shown that we've homologated e-mail and as such can't use e-mail.... (Returning from the Historic Races where there was only a SINGLE 510 ... and the Z we had expected had been "ruled" out (didn't race DURING 1969), and there simply were no Roadsters.... except for a friend's (Mark A.) in the spectator parking lot) E ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:59 PM Subject: [Roadsters] test > Test, I am not receiving emails from the list.? However, I am getting some > from the Triumph list. What's up? > > John Over > jover4x4@aol.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as escanlon@wa-net.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 11 21:52:03 2009 From: "oliver" To: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:51:52 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 low windshield windshield frame no, that is not a typo. and this is not a test. if this were a test . . . anyway, on the low windshield cars, there are extra holes in the outside piece that the weatherstripping attaches to. do i need to put anything in these? and that piece uses the frame screws for attachment? thanks! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 00:23:19 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'E Scanlon'" , Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:23:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test The Brits are just jealous because they never built a computer. They couldn't figure out how to make it leak oil. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:34 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; jover4x4@aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test The Triumph list insists we haven't shown that we've homologated e-mail and as such can't use e-mail.... (Returning from the Historic Races where there was only a SINGLE 510 ... and the Z we had expected had been "ruled" out (didn't race DURING 1969), and there simply were no Roadsters.... except for a friend's (Mark A.) in the spectator parking lot) E ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:59 PM Subject: [Roadsters] test > Test, I am not receiving emails from the list.? However, I am getting some > from the Triumph list. What's up? > > John Over > jover4x4@aol.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as escanlon@wa-net.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 00:28:19 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'oliver'" , Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:25:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 low windshield windshield frame If you're talking about rather small holes at the top of the windshield frame "side rails," I believe those are for rivets to hold the top of the door weatherstrip in place. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:52 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 low windshield windshield frame no, that is not a typo. and this is not a test. if this were a test . . . anyway, on the low windshield cars, there are extra holes in the outside piece that the weatherstripping attaches to. do i need to put anything in these? and that piece uses the frame screws for attachment? thanks! Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 04:23:45 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:23:11 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Mt. Shasta Roadster Meet Pictures!!! Big thanks to the Modesto group for putting on a fantastic 25th Anniv. show! We had 55 roadsters, fresh ice-cream(thanks Keith!), and some good times! Pictures here: http://rides.webshots.com/album/573465553szuvEI Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 08:06:54 2009 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: EastCoastRoadster@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:06:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test Hey Dave, thats just the thing.? I don't have a Triumph but am now getting their mail.? Maybe I should buy one?? Not. John -----Original Message----- From: Dave Brisco To: jover4x4@aol.com Sent: Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:29 pm Subject: RE: [Roadsters] test Hi John We don't like you because you have a Triumph. Just kidding. Are you digest or regular email? I do seem to miss a digest occasionally. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: jover4x4@aol.com [mailto:jover4x4@aol.com] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:00 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] test Test, I am not receiving emails from the list.? However, I am getting some from the Triumph list. What's up? John Over jover4x4@aol.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 08:12:51 2009 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: jover4x4@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:10:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test Maybe they should be added to our Datsun list... On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:06 AM, wrote: > Hey Dave, thats just the thing.? I don't have a Triumph but am now getting > their mail.? Maybe I should buy one?? Not. > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Brisco > To: jover4x4@aol.com > Sent: Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:29 pm > Subject: RE: [Roadsters] test > > > > Hi John > We don't like you because you have a Triumph. Just kidding. Are you > digest > or regular email? I do seem to miss a digest occasionally. > > Dave Brisco > > -----Original Message----- > From: jover4x4@aol.com [mailto:jover4x4@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:00 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] test > > Test, I am not receiving emails from the list.? However, I am getting some > from the Triumph list. What's up? > > John Over > jover4x4@aol.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 09:02:18 2009 From: mvaughn120@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:01:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Delaware-Maryland-Pennsylvania Roadsters Hi Folks, Glad to see the list is working again.? Are there any road trips going on in the Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania area??? I rarely get my car out and its running great. Shelly Wilmington, Delaware 1966 SPL311-00058 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 11:13:32 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:13:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test I thought it was because of the Lucas electronics....... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:23 PM To: 'E Scanlon'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; jover4x4@aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test The Brits are just jealous because they never built a computer. They couldn't figure out how to make it leak oil. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:34 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; jover4x4@aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test The Triumph list insists we haven't shown that we've homologated e-mail and as such can't use e-mail.... (Returning from the Historic Races where there was only a SINGLE 510 ... and the Z we had expected had been "ruled" out (didn't race DURING 1969), and there simply were no Roadsters.... except for a friend's (Mark A.) in the spectator parking lot) E ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:59 PM Subject: [Roadsters] test > Test, I am not receiving emails from the list.? However, I am getting some > from the Triumph list. What's up? > > John Over > jover4x4@aol.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as escanlon@wa-net.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 11:14:23 2009 From: "MH" To: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:09:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test and an idea Glitches of any kind can be annoying, but FWIW, I've reviewed and saved a LOT of interesting tech info from some of the vintage British car sites. I would bet at least few of the List or Forum members have too. If anyone else is interested, I have an archive of British car club links to what I believe are useful sites as far as "cross-over" tech info that could be helpful to Datsun Roadster and /or possibly car owners in general. I would also welcome the same kind of info from others. Here a just a few of my favorites : http://www.wmbgbrit.com/maintenance_british_sportcar.htm http://www.bmcno.org/tech%20tips/techtip.htm#MISC_BRITISH http://www.teglerizer.com/mgstuff/index.html http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/index.htm http://www.mgexperience.net/library.php At the present time I have 45 similar links regarding British car tech info. Some others are based on Triumph, Mini's, Land Rover, Jaguar, etc. Hmm........It just now occurs to me this kind of exchange might be a valuable resource on the 311.s Forum as well.....just a thought...no big deal.. Mike Hudson '67 Stroker / 5-speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test > Maybe they should be added to our Datsun list... > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:06 AM, wrote: > > > Hey Dave, thats just the thing.? I don't have a Triumph but am now getting > > their mail.? Maybe I should buy one?? Not. > > > > John > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Brisco > > To: jover4x4@aol.com > > Sent: Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:29 pm > > Subject: RE: [Roadsters] test > > > > > > > > Hi John > > We don't like you because you have a Triumph. Just kidding. Are you > > digest > > or regular email? I do seem to miss a digest occasionally. > > > > Dave Brisco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jover4x4@aol.com [mailto:jover4x4@aol.com] > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:00 PM > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] test > > > > Test, I am not receiving emails from the list.? However, I am getting some > > from the Triumph list. What's up? > > > > John Over > > jover4x4@aol.com > > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 11:21:45 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:24:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2009 Mt. Shasta Roadster Meet Pictures!!! Thanks for the pics, Alvin. I threw in the towel at 11pm Friday when "just one more thing" reared it's ugly head. Pete "wait'll next year!" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alvin gogineni Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:23 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Mt. Shasta Roadster Meet Pictures!!! Big thanks to the Modesto group for putting on a fantastic 25th Anniv. show! We had 55 roadsters, fresh ice-cream(thanks Keith!), and some good times! Pictures here: http://rides.webshots.com/album/573465553szuvEI Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutori a l_QuickAdd_062009 Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 12:00:17 2009 From: "MH" To: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:55:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test They must have had a hand it somewhere.....I've smoked a few computers for no other apparent reason. I've got to get the Lucas Smoke Kit someday. Mike H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'E Scanlon'" ; ; Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test > The Brits are just jealous because they never built a computer. They > couldn't figure out how to make it leak oil. > > Gordon Glasgow > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:34 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; jover4x4@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test > > The Triumph list insists we haven't shown that we've homologated e-mail and > as such can't use e-mail.... > > (Returning from the Historic Races where there was only a SINGLE 510 ... > and the Z we had expected had been "ruled" out (didn't race DURING 1969), > and there simply were no Roadsters.... except for a friend's (Mark A.) in > the spectator parking lot) > > E > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:59 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] test > > > > Test, I am not receiving emails from the list.? However, I am getting some > > > from the Triumph list. What's up? > > > > John Over > > jover4x4@aol.com > > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 12:19:40 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:19:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Starter Motor Issues Hey all, Someone here posted info about starter motor problems. Interestingly enough, I'm having the exact same issues. Car is a 1600 stroker, with headers. Starter was completely rebuilt. Car has 1000 miles on it since the rebuild, and the starter motor just died. I had to push start it all last night, which actually wasn't a big deal because the thing is so darn light. When I turned the key, I got NOTHING. Jumping the back of the switch didn't make it start either, so I know it's NOT the switch. I've got a spare that was also rebuilt, so I'm going to put it in today. So I'm wondering if the heat from the headers is "frying" the solenoid, or something. I think I might build a heat shield for the thing. Thoughts? Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 13:32:49 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:31:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter Motor Issues Turns out, the solenoid wire came loose! Lucky me! Eddie wrote: > Hey all, > > Someone here posted info about starter motor problems. > Interestingly enough, I'm having the exact same issues. > > Car is a 1600 stroker, with headers. > > Starter was completely rebuilt. > Car has 1000 miles on it since the rebuild, and the starter motor just > died. I had to push start it all last night, which actually wasn't a > big deal because the thing is so darn light. > When I turned the key, I got NOTHING. Jumping the back of the switch > didn't make it start either, so I know it's NOT the switch. I've got > a spare that was also rebuilt, so I'm going to put it in today. > So I'm wondering if the heat from the headers is "frying" the > solenoid, or something. I think I might build a heat shield for the > thing. > Thoughts? > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 13:35:14 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:34:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Cooling issues Hi all, I'm having some cooling issues and wanted to get some feedback/opinions... My car is a 1600 stroker. Runs at 180 at night, when the air is cool. In the day, cruising, it's about 195. At idle, stuck in traffic, it can get up to 210 degrees. I've got the 160 degree thermostat in it. Has anyone used the aluminum radiators that are out there? If so, did they bring the overall temp down? Also, what about removing the stock 4 blade metal fan and putting in an electric fan? Anyone done that? either or? Perhaps both? I'd like to lower that temp if I can.... Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 13:50:51 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "oliver" , Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:50:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] early 67 low windshield windshield frame Oliver, If you're talking about the small holes (~3/32), one on each side near the very top, those were used to secure the top end of the door weatherstrip using a rivet and pair of small washers. I don't believe they're needed, though. When I replaced my door weatherstrips, I just glued the rubber over the holes. Don't seem to miss them. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "oliver" To: Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:51 PM Subject: [Roadsters] early 67 low windshield windshield frame > no, that is not a typo. and this is not a test. if this were a test . . > . > > anyway, on the low windshield cars, there are extra holes in the outside > piece that the weatherstripping attaches to. do i need to put anything in > these? and that piece uses the frame screws for attachment? > > thanks! ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 14:08:29 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: Eddie Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:08:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cooling issues On the topic of cooling, does the 4 blade or 7 blade fan cool better ? -Dave Cooke On Jul 12, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Eddie wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm having some cooling issues and wanted to get some feedback/ > opinions... > > My car is a 1600 stroker. Runs at 180 at night, when the air is cool. > > In the day, cruising, it's about 195. > > At idle, stuck in traffic, it can get up to 210 degrees. > > I've got the 160 degree thermostat in it. > > > Has anyone used the aluminum radiators that are out there? If so, > did they bring the overall temp down? > > Also, what about removing the stock 4 blade metal fan and putting in > an electric fan? > Anyone done that? either or? Perhaps both? > > I'd like to lower that temp if I can.... > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cookefam314@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 15:29:19 2009 From: <9laser3@bright.net> To: "Eddie" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cooling issues Check your spark plugs. You may just be running lean; especially at idle. If they look good, check the valve timing, then ignition timing, then the heat gauge. If it's still running hot, then you could consider a new/bigger(?) radiator, and/or an electric fan. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 15:31:47 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:31:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Delaware-Maryland-Pennsylvania Roadsters Ever been to the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix? I think the main events are next weekend. Great old race cars on the city streets and lots of sports cars on the show field. Can't guarantee any roadsters will be there but there usually are one or two. Sorry I can't make it this year. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mvaughn120@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:01 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Delaware-Maryland-Pennsylvania Roadsters Hi Folks, Glad to see the list is working again.? Are there any road trips going on in the Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania area??? I rarely get my car out and its running great. Shelly Wilmington, Delaware 1966 SPL311-00058 You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 15:59:13 2009 From: Gary Callahan To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] =?utf-8?q?Re=2E=3A_Forest_Grove_Concours_d=E2=80=99El?= http://www.forestgroveconcours.org/ B B A week from today, on Sunday the 19th of July, is the annual Forest Grove Concours dbElegance.B I am planning on attending and was wondering is any other Datsun Roadster owners were also planning on attending.B I thought it might be fun to get a little caravan together and enjoy the event together.B What do you all think? Gary CallahanB Beaverton, Oregon B 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 B ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 17:05:56 2009 From: Linda J To: , Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:05:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cooling issues Eddie,You can also try the plastic fan for cooling. On my car it replaced the stock metal fan with the dysfunctional gizmo in the middle. Dean sells the kit.Of course your water pump is good? thermostat? radiator clean?On my car some gunk broke loose from the heater core when I first started driving it. Getting the radiator recored helped.Might check the reading for your temp too.Good luckLinda > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:34:48 -0700 > From: eddietude@socal.rr.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Cooling issues > > Hi all, > > I'm having some cooling issues and wanted to get some feedback/opinions... > > My car is a 1600 stroker. Runs at 180 at night, when the air is cool. > > In the day, cruising, it's about 195. > > At idle, stuck in traffic, it can get up to 210 degrees. > > I've got the 160 degree thermostat in it. > > > > Has anyone used the aluminum radiators that are out there? If so, did > they bring the overall temp down? > > Also, what about removing the stock 4 blade metal fan and putting in an > electric fan? > > Anyone done that? either or? Perhaps both? > > I'd like to lower that temp if I can.... > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 17:31:23 2009 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] U20 - Cam Broke - Valve Worries All, Continueing on the saga of the U20 -> U10. It wasn't the carb. It wasn't electrical. So I took off the valve cover and found a broken cam. The video is good for laughs. That raises a couple of questions: 1) Any ideas why my new cam, on my freshly rebuilt (5,000 mile) engine broke? What should I look for and address before putting a new one in? 2) Should I be worried that the snapped cam might have caused the pistons to hit the valves? I noticed a the sparkplugs on the 3 and 4 cylinders were wet, and worried about valve, valve guides . . . 3) Any thoughts about what cam I should put in as a replacement? 4) And, does anyone have one cheap they would sell me? Nathaniel '69 U10 Status: Parked. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 18:05:13 2009 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: twobeaners@earthlink.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:04:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test Hey Mike, I learned in school that you have to keep the smoke in.? As soon as you let the smoke out the component is ruined. John Over -----Original Message----- From: MH To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:55 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test They must have had a hand it somewhere.....I've smoked a few computers for no other apparent reason. I've got to get the Lucas Smoke Kit someday. Mike H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'E Scanlon'" ; ; Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test > The Brits are just jealous because they never built a computer. They > couldn't figure out how to make it leak oil. > > Gordon Glasgow > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:34 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; jover4x4@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] test > > The Triumph list insists we haven't shown that we've homologated e-mail and > as such can't use e-mail.... > > (Returning from the Historic Races where there was only a SINGLE 510 ... > and the Z we had expected had been "ruled" out (didn't race DURING 1969), > and there simply were no Roadsters.... except for a friend's (Mark A.) in > the spectator parking lot) > > E > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:59 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] test > > > > Test, I am not receiving emails from the list.? However, I am getting some > > > from the Triumph list. What's up? > > > > John Over > > jover4x4@aol.com > > ________________________________________ You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 18:32:53 2009 From: Mike Harper To: eddietude@socal.rr.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Linda J Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cooling issues When all else fails, if you cannot get this fixed simply, try changing the head gasket. While the head is off take it to a good machine shop and make sure it is straight. That's how I finally fixed my over-heating problem. BTW it showed no "symptoms of a blown head gasket, no steaming, nor mixture with oil, it was just "leaky. Hope you fix it otherwise, but just in case nothing else works... Mike Harper, CAI, AARE Harper Auction & Realty 843-729-4996 "Experience Sells" www.AuctionMyRealEstate.NET --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Linda J wrote: > From: Linda J > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cooling issues > To: eddietude@socal.rr.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 7:05 PM > Eddie,You can also try the plastic > fan for cooling. On my car it replaced the > stock metal fan with the dysfunctional gizmo in the middle. > Dean sells the > kit.Of course your water pump is good? thermostat? radiator > clean?On my car > some gunk broke loose from the heater core when I first > started driving it. > Getting the radiator recored helped.Might check the reading > for your temp > too.Good luckLinda > > > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:34:48 -0700 > > From: eddietude@socal.rr.com > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] Cooling issues > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm having some cooling issues and wanted to get some > feedback/opinions... > > > > My car is a 1600 stroker. Runs at 180 at night, > when the air is cool. > > > > In the day, cruising, it's about 195. > > > > At idle, stuck in traffic, it can get up to 210 > degrees. > > > > I've got the 160 degree thermostat in it. > > > > > > > > Has anyone used the aluminum radiators that are out > there? If so, did > > they bring the overall temp down? > > > > Also, what about removing the stock 4 blade metal fan > and putting in an > > electric fan? > > > > Anyone done that? either or? Perhaps > both? > > > > I'd like to lower that temp if I can.... > > > > Eddie > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@hotmail.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > _________________________________________________________________ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria > l_QuickAdd_062009 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 19:46:07 2009 From: "dave" To: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:39:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U20 - Cam Broke - Valve Worries It sounds like you have an alignment issue on the cam bearings, or a cam bearing with the oil hole in the wrong place. I would guess either the head is twisted or maybe a machining problem from the rebuild. Resolve it before breaking more parts. The cam needs to be able to spin freely with no bind, head on block and torqued, rocker arms not installed yet. -----Original Message----- From: nmleeds@mindspring.com [mailto:nmleeds@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] U20 - Cam Broke - Valve Worries All, Continueing on the saga of the U20 -> U10. It wasn't the carb. It wasn't electrical. So I took off the valve cover and found a broken cam. The video is good for laughs. That raises a couple of questions: 1) Any ideas why my new cam, on my freshly rebuilt (5,000 mile) engine broke? What should I look for and address before putting a new one in? 2) Should I be worried that the snapped cam might have caused the pistons to hit the valves? I noticed a the sparkplugs on the 3 and 4 cylinders were wet, and worried about valve, valve guides . . . 3) Any thoughts about what cam I should put in as a replacement? 4) And, does anyone have one cheap they would sell me? Nathaniel '69 U10 Status: Parked. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 12 19:46:30 2009 From: "robert k. smith" To: , roadster list Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:46:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U20 - Cam Broke - Valve Worries hi nath., usually, when the cam breaks on a u20, the head is, or was warped. that is,top of the head is warpped, and the cam towers are not in a straight line any more. possibly the head was warped (SP.?) and was milled only on the bottom side. this happened to me one time only,( i eventually DO catch on). you probably have at least 1 or 2 bent valves,(on the cyl. where the cam has stopped). usually,the valves might mark the pistons,but, rarely, have i seen a cracked piston. you need to remove the head and ck. to see if the bottom of the head is warped. if not, you can fix the warp problem,one of two ways. take everything off the top of the head, and have it milled. or, you can use shims under the cam towers, so, when you use the correct shims, you will be able to rotate the cam by hand. on the bent valves: i have replaced the valves, and left cracked valve guides in the head, to no ill effect.(no smoking) or you can have the valve guides replaced. if you want more specific details, call me. ive fixed this problem 4 or 5 times, over the years. regards, bob smith 614 418 9911 ( ohio). > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:30:58 -0400 > From: nmleeds@mindspring.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] U20 - Cam Broke - Valve Worries > > All, > > Continueing on the saga of the U20 -> U10. It wasn't the carb. It wasn't electrical. So I took off the valve cover and found a broken cam. The video is good for laughs. > > That raises a couple of questions: > > 1) Any ideas why my new cam, on my freshly rebuilt (5,000 mile) engine broke? What should I look for and address before putting a new one in? > 2) Should I be worried that the snapped cam might have caused the pistons to hit the valves? I noticed a the sparkplugs on the 3 and 4 cylinders were wet, and worried about valve, valve guides . . . > 3) Any thoughts about what cam I should put in as a replacement? > 4) And, does anyone have one cheap they would sell me? > > Nathaniel > > '69 U10 > > Status: Parked. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 13 00:47:03 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Eddie , Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:45:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Cooling issues The temp climbing can be a number of issues as stated - timing not working properly, leaning out at higher rpm, rad, fan, water pump.......however if it stays cool at night when the temperature is cool, regardless of how you drive it, I would look at the cooling system. A good radiator should be enough (recored 3 row?), but an electric fan could also be good insurance and is pretty easy to install. I've got a 14" Zirgo fan in my stroker. I used to have an overheating problem which only showed up at prolonged 2500+ rpms (highway driving). It went away when I added the programmable ignition and got rid of the dizzy. I suspect something was wrong with my advance mechanisms. Good luck, Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" > Hi all, > > I'm having some cooling issues and wanted to get some feedback/opinions... > > My car is a 1600 stroker. Runs at 180 at night, when the air is cool. > > In the day, cruising, it's about 195. > > At idle, stuck in traffic, it can get up to 210 degrees. > > I've got the 160 degree thermostat in it. > > > Has anyone used the aluminum radiators that are out there? If so, did > they bring the overall temp down? > > Also, what about removing the stock 4 blade metal fan and putting in an > electric fan? > Anyone done that? either or? Perhaps both? > > I'd like to lower that temp if I can.... > > Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 13 12:38:17 2009 From: "James Fogg" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] A few Datsuns at the SCCA NE Regionals Sunday No roadsters, but some Datsuns. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43532676@N00/sets/72157621398018632/ A 240Z, B-210 and something else (may be a Toyota, not sure). If anyone was racing that day, or knows of someone who was, I have good photos of just about every car. -- James - ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 13 15:34:26 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'James Fogg'" , Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:33:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] A few Datsuns at the SCCA NE Regionals Sunday That's a 510 (car #5). Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Fogg Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:38 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] A few Datsuns at the SCCA NE Regionals Sunday No roadsters, but some Datsuns. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43532676@N00/sets/72157621398018632/ A 240Z, B-210 and something else (may be a Toyota, not sure). If anyone was racing that day, or knows of someone who was, I have good photos of just about every car. -- James - Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 13 19:07:25 2009 From: Bill Cole To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:59:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Mt. Shasta Roadster Meet Here is a link to my photos of the show...Bill [URL=http://rides.webshots.com/album/573504704nzKyJS][IMG]http://thumb10.webshots.net/t/96/96/5/42/2/2558542020103191510rmOigJ_th.jpg[/IMG][/URL] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 13 22:38:57 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:41:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2009 Mt. Shasta Roadster Meet Working link to Bill's Shasta 2009 album: -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Cole Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:00 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Mt. Shasta Roadster Meet Here is a link to my photos of the show...Bill [URL=http://rides.webshots.com/album/573504704nzKyJS][IMG]http://thumb10.web shots.net/t/96/96/5/42/2/2558542020103191510rmOigJ_th.jpg[/IMG][/URL] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 14 06:22:12 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 5:18:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Deal to be had http://bringatrailer.com/2009/07/13/bat-exclusive-1967-datsun-1600-race-car/ Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 14 09:36:07 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Tim , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:25:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Deal to be had There are a couple of very nice Roadsters on that site. The original 67 1600 looked great too. Worth a look. Greg Morrison SRL31100494 Spokane, WA On 7/14/09 5:18 AM, "Tim" wrote: > http://bringatrailer.com/2009/07/13/bat-exclusive-1967-datsun-1600-race-car/ > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 14 16:54:01 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:51:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice 70 1600 for sale spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1264120323.html This link should get you there. Looks like a very nice Roadster. -Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA PS There don't seem to be many posts to this List anymore. Where has everyone gone? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 14 23:08:00 2009 From: Paul Bauman To: Autox Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:00:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OC head machine shop Anyone in in Orange County, CA know of a good shop that can fix a bad valve in a 1600 head? I'm more than willing to take it down to Classic Datsun since they did top-notch work last time, but it's become a daily driver and I'd like to find someplace local for this job and get her back on the road quick. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 (hanger queen) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 15 06:53:55 2009 From: Dan Kroninger To: Datsun Mailing List Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:41:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Nice 70 1600 for sale Hopefully everyone is out driving. PS There don't seem to be many posts to this List anymore. Where has > everyone gone? > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Storage_062009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 15 09:39:42 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] List is quiet (was "Re: Nice 70 1600 for sale") Possibly (hopefully!) driving and/or the nature mailing lists. The 311s.org forums usually have a dozen or more posts every day. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Kroninger" To: "Datsun Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:41:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Nice 70 1600 for sale Hopefully everyone is out driving. PS There don't seem to be many posts to this List anymore. Where has everyone gone? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 15 10:26:01 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:25:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"! (all smoke released from circuit) So, when I started up to drive to the employee car show this morning, the previously "always runs hot" fuse decided to give up the ghost, in a smoky fashion. Background: Stock fuse location ran hot, like 200+ (real easy to find in the dark - YEOW!). Suggestion was to soak the contacts in vinegar to remove corrosion. But, you have to completely remove the fusebox to soak it. So, I got a moden ATC in-line fuse holder, removed the pair of leads from the old fusebox, installed it in-line, so now I have a jumper around the "problem". Only now the ATC fuse runs hot, and it is made of plastic, so over time it gets to be looking a but like a Picasso painting of a ATC fuse, due to heat. Today, exceeded the melting point of an ATC fuse. When I pulled it out (smart enough to use a rag now) it came out in pieces, hot, steamy, dripping pieces. So, first thing is to replace the jumper, but then next is to check the amperage going across the fuse contacts and then start unplugging things (I suspect taillite buckets) until the amperage reads normal again. So, the normal amperage value is: _____??? Thanks again wiring gurus, Fergus O (aka: Ian O'InsulationChallenged) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 15 18:38:50 2009 From: "Tom Phelan" To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:38:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Deal to be had I recognize this car. Owner driver was Dave Boyer from CO. Sorry to hear he passed away. I met him a few times at the Watkins Glen Vintage Grand Prix. A real gentleman. His buddy took care of the car for him. Really well done, neat and clean. Anyone looking to get into vintage should look at this one seriously. From the little I knew about Dave I would guess it would be ready to race in short order. He had a Japanese saying painted on the glove box door. I asked him what it meant. He said "Anything stupid, don't do." I always thought it an appropriate reminder. Tom Phelan -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:19 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Deal to be had http://bringatrailer.com/2009/07/13/bat-exclusive-1967-datsun-1600-race-car/ Tim ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 15 20:52:37 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone near Pintendre Quebec? Is anyone available to pick up and store an engine for me near Pintendre? I would need it stored for a couple of weeks until I can make arrangements to get it or have it shipped. Thanks, Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 01:53:19 2009 From: "Graeme" To: "'O'Farrell, Fergus P \(AS\)'" , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:15:21 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"! (all smoke released from Hi Fergus, You don't say which fuse is running hot so I'm guessing it is the feed for the lights?? On early cars, it is the "L" fuse and has a 30A rating. You will need to follow the Schematic for your car to see where the problem may be. DO NOT use an ammeter across the fuse contacts unless the fuse is removed. An ammeter is a series connected device. Sounds like you are aware of how to isolate various light circuits and that will help to narrow the problem down. Some cars have the Cigar Lighter on the L fuse as well as the Stop Light switch so you will need to be a detective here and check all possibilities. "So, first thing is to replace the jumper, but then next is to check the amperage going across the fuse contacts and then start unplugging things (I suspect taillite buckets) until the amperage reads normal again. So, the normal amperage value is: _____???" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 06:57:10 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: "Graeme" , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:44:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"!, now diagnostics Thanks Graeme. Yep, I figured remove the fuse, see what baseline reading is across the contacts. I am pretty sure the car must be running to get a correct value, as if the voltage is low (batt only) the current reading will be flawed. (not representative of the problem) Then start unplugging various blinker / tailites, and take readings each time. Might not be only one is the culprit. For starters: 1. remove all side markers and tailite buckets, isolating the front blinkers 1a. For reference, remove the fronts and connect the rears, isolating them 2. then reconnect fronts, add one set (side) of rear markers at a time, possibly one bucket at a time 3. lastly, reconnect each side marker individually Lighter? Good point. I have all the center console removed and taped off, so certainly worth checking. Thanks for the help, I am very E-challenged! FergusO -----Original Message----- From: Graeme [mailto:graemes@internode.on.net] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS); datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"! (all smoke released from circuit) Hi Fergus, You don't say which fuse is running hot so I'm guessing it is the feed for the lights?? On early cars, it is the "L" fuse and has a 30A rating. You will need to follow the Schematic for your car to see where the problem may be. DO NOT use an ammeter across the fuse contacts unless the fuse is removed. An ammeter is a series connected device. Sounds like you are aware of how to isolate various light circuits and that will help to narrow the problem down. Some cars have the Cigar Lighter on the L fuse as well as the Stop Light switch so you will need to be a detective here and check all possibilities. "So, first thing is to replace the jumper, but then next is to check the amperage going across the fuse contacts and then start unplugging things (I suspect taillite buckets) until the amperage reads normal again. So, the normal amperage value is: _____???" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 07:08:59 2009 From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:59:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Tail/Brake light question Okay, since the list has been quiet, I'll add a stupid question. On my '67, should both tail lights come on, and should both also light up with the brakes? I'm pretty sure only one set comes on. Even then, I don't think they are very bright. I've been too busy driving my car and not working on my car like I should. At least when I do look, I'll know what is supposed to happen, right? Ken "Danger" Williams '67 1600 Janesville, WI ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 09:56:19 2009 From: Eddie To: Ken & Tammy Williams Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:55:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tail/Brake light question I'm not sure about the 67, but I know for various years it's definitely different. Some had all the lights come on, others didn't. One thing you can do to check is to pull the bulb and/or count the wires going to each bulb. On some years, both the top and bottom bulb were double filament. (they had 3 wires going to each light.) In other years, one of the lights had only one filament. (only two wires going to that bulb - that was usually the top light.) The three wire/double filament bulbs were set up so one filament was illuminated when the lights were on, and the other lit up when the brakes were applied or the turn signal was on. Also, some lights had the top orange, the bottom red, while others were all red. Which was yours? Post how many wires you have going to each, and it will be easier to tell what their function was. Also, you can look up on 311s.org the electrical schematic for your year and tell by that too, but if your wiring/lights were changed out like many have been, that might not be of much help... Eddie Ken & Tammy Williams wrote: > Okay, since the list has been quiet, I'll add a stupid question. > > On my '67, should both tail lights come on, and should both also light up with > the brakes? I'm pretty sure only one set comes on. Even then, I don't think > they are very bright. I've been too busy driving my car and not working on my > car like I should. At least when I do look, I'll know what is supposed to > happen, right? > > Ken "Danger" Williams > '67 1600 > Janesville, WI > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 12:08:56 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"!, now diagnostics Fergus, For someone claiming to be e-Challenged, you're doing everything correctly to troubleshoot and isolate the problem. Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 18:25:31 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:24:46 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Monterey Historics!!! ZONC is holding another Datsun Car Corral at 'Seca.It is always exciting to watch John Morton and cheer him on.It's priceless to talk to him about Datsuns in front of all the Porsche folks too: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2009570070101854788agUVHm Morton will be driving the terrifying '85 Nissan GTP car. Details here: http://www.zonc.org/ Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 18:41:04 2009 From: Hoon Kim To: Roadster mailist Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:40:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Passenger Brake Light Hello wise roadster list, I'm trying to track down an electrical problem and I figured I would ask the masses. A few days ago my voltage regulator fried. The inside of the regulator look good but the wires underneath got all gooey. I have since replaced the regulator but I've noticed that my passenger brake light does not work. Furthermore, when I have the lights on I can't tell if even my driver's side brake lights work. I know that it is not the bulbs since they light up when I turn on the lights, but I can't get it to go. I've checked the connections by the brake switch and they seem to be fine as is the connection to the brake lights. How would I even track down the inherent problem. I have an early 67 1600. Thanks for the help. Hoon hoonhkim@gmail.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 19:53:13 2009 From: "Graeme" To: "'Hoon Kim'" , "'Roadster mailist'" Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:21:35 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passenger Brake Light The brake switch on your '67 should be the pressure switch at the firewall. You can simply connect those two wires together to operate the brake lamps. Dirty connections or faulty ground are likely causes for malfunction. If the circuit checks out OK by shorting the wires at the pressure switch, the switch itself may be faulty. "I've checked the connections by the brake switch and they seem to be fine as is the connection to the brake lights. How would I even track down the inherent problem. I have an early 67 1600." ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 21:23:33 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Hoon Kim" , "Roadster mailist" Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:19:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passenger Brake Light Hoon, I presume you figured out why the regulator "fried" before replacing it. If you're not experienced with electrical systems, you should have the charging system checked by a professional, to see if there are any weaknesses which need to be corrected. Most repair shops can test the charging system for you. I don't think the two problems are related. As to the brake lights, in the early cars, both brake lights are fed from a single wire which runs along the left frame rail. If your left light works at all, but the right side does not, the problem has to be in the wiring at the back of the car between the left side light and the right side light. Be sure to check the ground wire which connects the rear harness -- under the body behind the trunk -- to the frame near the license lamp. (It is called "Side Rail Earth" on the wiring diagram, but I believe the connection is on the back of the body.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hoon Kim" To: "Roadster mailist" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Passenger Brake Light > Hello wise roadster list, > > I'm trying to track down an electrical problem and I figured I would ask > the > masses. A few days ago my voltage regulator fried. The inside of the > regulator look good but the wires underneath got all gooey. I have since > replaced the regulator but I've noticed that my passenger brake light does > not work. Furthermore, when I have the lights on I can't tell if even my > driver's side brake lights work. I know that it is not the bulbs since > they > light up when I turn on the lights, but I can't get it to go. I've checked > the connections by the brake switch and they seem to be fine as is the > connection to the brake lights. How would I even track down the inherent > problem. I have an early 67 1600. > > Thanks for the help. > > Hoon > hoonhkim@gmail.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 22:38:47 2009 From: Hoon Kim To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:38:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passenger Brake Light So a little more info. I've checked the switch by the firewall and that doesn't seem to be the case. - Hoon Kim On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:19 PM, "Gary and Cindy Ault" wrote: > Hoon, > > I presume you figured out why the regulator "fried" before replacing > it. If you're not experienced with electrical systems, you should > have the charging system checked by a professional, to see if there > are any weaknesses which need to be corrected. Most repair shops > can test the charging system for you. > > I don't think the two problems are related. > > As to the brake lights, in the early cars, both brake lights are fed > from a single wire which runs along the left frame rail. If your > left light works at all, but the right side does not, the problem > has to be in the wiring at the back of the car between the left side > light and the right side light. Be sure to check the ground wire > which connects the rear harness -- under the body behind the trunk > -- to the frame near the license lamp. (It is called "Side Rail > Earth" on the wiring diagram, but I believe the connection is on the > back of the body.) > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hoon Kim" > To: "Roadster mailist" > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:40 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Passenger Brake Light > > >> Hello wise roadster list, >> >> I'm trying to track down an electrical problem and I figured I >> would ask the >> masses. A few days ago my voltage regulator fried. The inside of the >> regulator look good but the wires underneath got all gooey. I have >> since >> replaced the regulator but I've noticed that my passenger brake >> light does >> not work. Furthermore, when I have the lights on I can't tell if >> even my >> driver's side brake lights work. I know that it is not the bulbs >> since they >> light up when I turn on the lights, but I can't get it to go. I've >> checked >> the connections by the brake switch and they seem to be fine as is >> the >> connection to the brake lights. How would I even track down the >> inherent >> problem. I have an early 67 1600. >> >> Thanks for the help. >> >> Hoon >> hoonhkim@gmail.com >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 16 22:51:37 2009 From: Hoon Kim To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:46:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Passenger Brake Light Sorry. The mail got sent prematurely. Anyways. I've checked the switch by the firewall and that is not the case. I am getting into the electrical system green though I thought that my voltage regulator got fried due to a totally rusted out turn signal. I've since replace it and now my turn signals work whereas they only worked when the lights were off. Ive checked the groud as well and they seemed to be fine. I guess the next step is to get a voltage reader and go wire by wire. And to check out the charging system though I too think that they are unrelated. - Hoon Kim On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:19 PM, "Gary and Cindy Ault" wrote: > Hoon, > > I presume you figured out why the regulator "fried" before replacing > it. If you're not experienced with electrical systems, you should > have the charging system checked by a professional, to see if there > are any weaknesses which need to be corrected. Most repair shops > can test the charging system for you. > > I don't think the two problems are related. > > As to the brake lights, in the early cars, both brake lights are fed > from a single wire which runs along the left frame rail. If your > left light works at all, but the right side does not, the problem > has to be in the wiring at the back of the car between the left side > light and the right side light. Be sure to check the ground wire > which connects the rear harness -- under the body behind the trunk > -- to the frame near the license lamp. (It is called "Side Rail > Earth" on the wiring diagram, but I believe the connection is on the > back of the body.) > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hoon Kim" > To: "Roadster mailist" > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:40 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Passenger Brake Light > > >> Hello wise roadster list, >> >> I'm trying to track down an electrical problem and I figured I >> would ask the >> masses. A few days ago my voltage regulator fried. The inside of the >> regulator look good but the wires underneath got all gooey. I have >> since >> replaced the regulator but I've noticed that my passenger brake >> light does >> not work. Furthermore, when I have the lights on I can't tell if >> even my >> driver's side brake lights work. I know that it is not the bulbs >> since they >> light up when I turn on the lights, but I can't get it to go. I've >> checked >> the connections by the brake switch and they seem to be fine as is >> the >> connection to the brake lights. How would I even track down the >> inherent >> problem. I have an early 67 1600. >> >> Thanks for the help. >> >> Hoon >> hoonhkim@gmail.com >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 17 12:52:12 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"!, now diagnostics Bill meant for this to go the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: srl311ka@aol.com To: ppeters914@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:22:57 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"!, now diagnostics For what it's worth, heat at fuses is usually from a poor connection, not too much amperage. Too much amperage should blow the fuse, not cause heat. I know you changed fuse assys but I would reevaluate why it was melting. Bill Kenyon ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 17 13:21:15 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"!, now diagnostics amps x volts = watts If you lose volts due to an undersized wire or bad connection, either the amps go up, making the problem worse - or the watts go down (dimlights) Think of fluid flow, sort of. Watts is volume. Amps is pipe size and volts is pressure. If your pipe size is small, you need more pressure. If your pressure is small, you need a bigger pipe. JimG 2k 69 --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Pete Peters wrote: From: Pete Peters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"!, now diagnostics To: "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 2:46 PM Bill meant for this to go the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: srl311ka@aol.com To: ppeters914@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:22:57 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] I pulled a "Triumph"!, now diagnostics For what it's worth, heat at fuses is usually from a poor connection, not too much amperage. Too much amperage should blow the fuse, not cause heat. I know you changed fuse assys but I would reevaluate why it was melting. Bill Kenyon You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 17 14:39:17 2009 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:38:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I am thinking about changing to an electric fan on Mr. Hyde. Looking through the wrecking yard this morning I found a number of likely candidates but I have a question about push or pull fans. There is a lot of room ahead of the radiator to install a push type radiator fan and I would not need to look at modifying the water pump shaft. Is there any problem with a push fan rather than a pull fan behind the radiator, which is what I usually see? What temperature should the fan temperature switch be if I mount it on the thermostat cover where I already have an unsued threaded port for this switch? Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 17 16:11:29 2009 From: "Brian Hollands" To: "'Tom Hendricksen'" Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:11:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question Take a look at the SPAL Thin Line fans. I put a 14 inch puller on mine with an overall depth of 2.05 inches. No need to do anything to the water pump. ________________________________ Brian Hollands '69 2000 Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- There is a lot of room ahead of the radiator to install a push type radiator fan and I would not need to look at modifying the water pump shaft. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 17 16:21:17 2009 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:19:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I use the same setup, along with an externally adjustable electronic thermo-switch, and it has been very effective. There is approximately 1/2"-5/8" clearance to the water pump nose. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Brian Hollands wrote: > Take a look at the SPAL Thin Line fans. I put a 14 inch puller on mine with > an overall depth of 2.05 inches. No need to do anything to the water pump. > > ________________________________ > Brian Hollands > '69 2000 > Tampa, FL > > -----Original Message----- > There is a lot of > room ahead of the radiator to install a push type radiator fan and I would > not need to look at modifying the water pump shaft. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 17 16:51:09 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Tom Hendricksen , "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:44:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I run a 1600 block so can't say as to clearance. I don't believe there is a functional drawback for either the pusher or puller. >From what I have read, the least amount of wear on the engine is in the area of 190*, so if you can get it to run around 185 - 195* you should be good! Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Hendricksen" Subject: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question >I am thinking about changing to an electric fan on Mr. Hyde. > > Looking through the wrecking yard this morning I found a number of likely > candidates but I have a question about push or pull fans. There is a lot > of > room ahead of the radiator to install a push type radiator fan and I would > not need to look at modifying the water pump shaft. Is there any problem > with a push fan rather than a pull fan behind the radiator, which is what > I > usually see? > > What temperature should the fan temperature switch be if I mount it on the > thermostat cover where I already have an unsued threaded port for this > switch? > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 17 17:06:08 2009 From: "barterdude" To: "'Tom Hendricksen'" , "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:59:32 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I run a pusher on the front side of the radiator on my 2000 with a manual activation switch. It is nice for running in stop and go summer traffic and it has no problem with clearance. Even with my "air horns" located in the same general area. HOOOONNNNNNK HOOOOONNNK get out of my way, here comes the little Datsun. Cheers -- Gary Lasater -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Hendricksen Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 2:39 PM To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I am thinking about changing to an electric fan on Mr. Hyde. Looking through the wrecking yard this morning I found a number of likely candidates but I have a question about push or pull fans. There is a lot of room ahead of the radiator to install a push type radiator fan and I would not need to look at modifying the water pump shaft. Is there any problem with a push fan rather than a pull fan behind the radiator, which is what I usually see? What temperature should the fan temperature switch be if I mount it on the thermostat cover where I already have an unsued threaded port for this switch? Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.16/2241 - Release Date: 07/17/09 06:08:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 17 17:51:32 2009 From: steven boortz To: Tom Hendricksen , "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question i have a 14" Fluidyne puller. with no crank fan blade there is approx 1/2 clearance with the studs of the water pump pulley. my fan is on a switch, and i turn it on when it gets above about 180, or when sitting in traffic. s 675MIZU ________________________________ From: Tom Hendricksen To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:38:58 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I am thinking about changing to an electric fan on Mr. Hyde. Looking through the wrecking yard this morning I found a number of likely candidates but I have a question about push or pull fans. There is a lot of room ahead of the radiator to install a push type radiator fan and I would not need to look at modifying the water pump shaft. Is there any problem with a push fan rather than a pull fan behind the radiator, which is what I usually see? What temperature should the fan temperature switch be if I mount it on the thermostat cover where I already have an unsued threaded port for this switch? Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 17 18:40:34 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: , "'Tom Hendricksen'" , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:38:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I've always read the pullers are better than pushers. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of barterdude Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:00 PM To: 'Tom Hendricksen'; 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I run a pusher on the front side of the radiator on my 2000 with a manual activation switch. It is nice for running in stop and go summer traffic and it has no problem with clearance. Even with my "air horns" located in the same general area. HOOOONNNNNNK HOOOOONNNK get out of my way, here comes the little Datsun. Cheers -- Gary Lasater -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Hendricksen Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 2:39 PM To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I am thinking about changing to an electric fan on Mr. Hyde. Looking through the wrecking yard this morning I found a number of likely candidates but I have a question about push or pull fans. There is a lot of room ahead of the radiator to install a push type radiator fan and I would not need to look at modifying the water pump shaft. Is there any problem with a push fan rather than a pull fan behind the radiator, which is what I usually see? What temperature should the fan temperature switch be if I mount it on the thermostat cover where I already have an unsued threaded port for this switch? Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.16/2241 - Release Date: 07/17/09 06:08:00 You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 18 06:08:01 2009 From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:07:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tail/Brake light question Hey, Thanks to everybody for the info and suggestions. I was primarily interested in what the stock configuration would have been, so thanks Gary. The lights are working, as they should. The connections on the brake switch were iffy. I roughed the posts up, and the brake lights seem to look brighter. Would dielectric grease help keep that connection clean? Thanks again, Ken ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 18 08:55:15 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:58:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tail/Brake light question Yes, the dielectric grease will help keep the connection sealed & protected. Pete "dielectric grease for everyone!" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ken & Tammy Williams Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:07 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tail/Brake light question Hey, Thanks to everybody for the info and suggestions. I was primarily interested in what the stock configuration would have been, so thanks Gary. The lights are working, as they should. The connections on the brake switch were iffy. I roughed the posts up, and the brake lights seem to look brighter. Would dielectric grease help keep that connection clean? Thanks again, Ken Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 18 10:20:18 2009 From: Linda J To: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:19:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tail/Brake light question I just got a BIG tube of that stuff. I'm going to do as many connections as possible.Linda > From: ppeters914@comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:58:40 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tail/Brake light question > > Yes, the dielectric grease will help keep the connection sealed & protected. > > Pete "dielectric grease for everyone!" > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ken & Tammy > Williams > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:07 AM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tail/Brake light question > > Hey, > Thanks to everybody for the info and suggestions. I was primarily > interested in what the stock configuration would have been, so thanks Gary. > The lights are working, as they should. The connections on the brake switch > were iffy. I roughed the posts up, and the brake lights seem to look > brighter. Would dielectric grease help keep that connection clean? > Thanks again, > Ken > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. 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The fan rarely runs constantly, even at idle in hot traffic. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hendricksen [mailto:tom@datsun2000.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 4:39 PM To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I am thinking about changing to an electric fan on Mr. Hyde. Looking through the wrecking yard this morning I found a number of likely candidates but I have a question about push or pull fans. There is a lot of room ahead of the radiator to install a push type radiator fan and I would not need to look at modifying the water pump shaft. Is there any problem with a push fan rather than a pull fan behind the radiator, which is what I usually see? What temperature should the fan temperature switch be if I mount it on the thermostat cover where I already have an unsued threaded port for this switch? Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 18 13:04:23 2009 From: Steven Burton To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Selling my 66 1600 I'm going to be putting my 66 1600 on Ebay soon, and wanted to see if there was anyone on the list that might have an interest in it before I do. Its in very good shape, runs and drives beautifully. there is a rust blister at the base of the rear right wheel well. I've got both soft and hard top. It has a modern stereo (put in by a previous owner). I'm asking $7500. Located in Palm Springs CA. If you have some interest, I'll be happy to send pictures. Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 18 13:06:34 2009 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'dave'" , "'Tom Hendricksen'" Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:05:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I'm also using a 14" something-or-other pulling fan. It's mounted at four points around the inside the stock fan shroud. A fairly clean stock look. I mounted a 180 degree Bosch thermo-fan switch at the top of my tank. Fan works great, but he fan control has some hysteresis. IE a little more heat soak than desired or too cold on a cold day. The way Nissan does it on later models is to mount the lower temperature switch on the bottom radiator tank. This engages the fan it only when it can't keep up. Next time my radiator is out, it will get a Nissan part numbered lower fan switch. Walter Peterson Santa Barbara Ca, 93109 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'Tom Hendricksen'; 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I'm using a 16" pusher, works very well. I had to make a new upper radiator support and do some creative spacing. A 14" may work with less fabrication. Ideally, the fan should be supported by something other than the radiator core. The zip ties included go straight through the core and have the potential for making a leak. A thermostatic switch makes it easy. The fan rarely runs constantly, even at idle in hot traffic. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hendricksen [mailto:tom@datsun2000.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 4:39 PM To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: [Roadsters] Electric Fan Question I am thinking about changing to an electric fan on Mr. Hyde. Looking through the wrecking yard this morning I found a number of likely candidates but I have a question about push or pull fans. There is a lot of room ahead of the radiator to install a push type radiator fan and I would not need to look at modifying the water pump shaft. Is there any problem with a push fan rather than a pull fan behind the radiator, which is what I usually see? What temperature should the fan temperature switch be if I mount it on the thermostat cover where I already have an unsued threaded port for this switch? Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 18 13:33:46 2009 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:32:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1300 Pickup In A Portland Wrecking Yard I don't know if anyone is interested, but in the U-Pull-It lot at 111th and Foster in Portland, Or sits a nearly complete 67 1300 pickup. NO RUST. The entire body is straight, and the tailgate has been cleaned up and ready for primer. Again, no rust or dents. Only a few minor parts are missing, and even the factory radio is in the dash. If anyone is interested I would contact the wrecking yard and try to buy the whole truck before it is unrestorable. Right now it would make a great restoration project for someone looking for a pickup. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 18 20:27:16 2009 From: Eddie To: Tom Hendricksen Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:26:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 67 1300 Pickup In A Portland Wrecking Yard Heck if it's cheap enough, you should grab it! Someone would want that! Tom Hendricksen wrote: > I don't know if anyone is interested, but in the U-Pull-It lot at 111th and > Foster in Portland, Or sits a nearly complete 67 1300 pickup. NO RUST. The > entire body is straight, and the tailgate has been cleaned up and ready for > primer. Again, no rust or dents. Only a few minor parts are missing, and > even the factory radio is in the dash. > > If anyone is interested I would contact the wrecking yard and try to buy the > whole truck before it is unrestorable. Right now it would make a great > restoration project for someone looking for a pickup. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 18 20:37:18 2009 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:37:03 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Broke Cam- what should I check? This is the latest in a series of calls for help after I broke my cam. The concensus of the group was that I should pull the head and get it worked on (unless I liked braking cams). Good advice and the possibility of some Rebello Racing head work made it more inviting. So the head is off and I've done a visual inspection of the head, valves, and pistons. The valves look like they took a hit when the cam broke and there's a small indent on the top of one of the pistons. I've paranoid enough that I'm going get someone to pull the valve springs and look a the valves and valve guides. The question is what else I should look for and whether I should pull the pistons too. I cleaned the top of the pistons best I could around the area of the valve divit and didn't see any cracking. Ideas? Suggestions? Should I just rebuild the whole engine and start from scratch, or is it unnecessary? What else should I look for. Nathaniel Leeds '69 U10, broken cam and heart. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 18 21:27:18 2009 From: Linda J To: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:26:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SoCal BBQ Thanks to Carmel and Fergus O'Farrell for a very nice So Cal ROC BBQ. It was nice seeing the cars and owners having fun. I am sure someone will have some pics.Hope you made it home Paul! Linda _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the webs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 09:46:03 2009 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Barn Finds, non roadster but wouldn't be nice? -Non roadster stuff but wouldn't it be nice?B B Why don't these things happen to me! B All I can say is 'Wow'!!!! B B B A New York man retired. He wanted to use his retirement money wisely, so it would last, and decided to buy a home and a few acres in Portugal . The modest farmhouse had been vacant for 15 years.; the owner and wife both had died, and there were no heirs. The house was sold to pay taxes. There had been several lookers, but the large barn had steel doors, and they had been welded shut. Nobody wanted to go to the extra expense to see what was in the barn, and it wasn't complimentary to the property anyway......so, nobody made an offer on the place. B The New York guy bought it at just over half of the property's worth, moved in, and set about to tear in to the barn.......curiosity was killing him. B B So, he and his wife bought a generator, and a couple of B grinders..........and cut B thru the welds. B What was in the barn...............? B B B B B B B B B B B B B B The Barnb& B B B B B B B B B The doors were welded shut, but an angle grinder took care of that. B B B B B B B B B B B B Fiat Cabriolet (1200 or 1500), Ford Cortina MKII, Mercedes Benz 180/190. B B B B B B B Aston Martin? B B B B B B Opel GT, Lotus Elan FHC, Lotus Super Seven Series IV, Lotus Elan DHC. B B B B B B B Porsche 356, Austin Healey Sprite MkII, Volvo PV 544, Ford Y? B B B B B Giulietta Sprint, Giulia Sprint Speciale (SS), Nash Metropolitan. B B B B B Alfa Giulietta, Lotus Europa, another Lotus Elan FHC, Matra Djet? B B B B B B Lancia Flaminia CoupC). B B B B B Abarth 1300 Scorpione. B B B B B B American (inspired) design. B B B B B B Interior of Alfa Romeo. B B B B B B Lancia Flaminia CoupC), Peugeot 504 cabriolet & 404 cabriolet. B B B B B B Mini, Alfa 1900 Super Sprint, Balilla. B B B B B B Fiat Topolino II, Triumph TR4, Peugeot 202. B B B B B BMW V8, Formula racers, Chryslers, Mercedes, Austin A30. B B B B B B BMW V8, Formula racers, Chryslers, Mercedes, Austin A30. B B B Bloody WICKED B b" B B ALL UP VALUED AT $35 MILLION NZ DOLLARS. B b" B B THIS IS A TRUE STORY THE MAN AND HIS WIFE HAD FULL CLAIM TO THE LOT B b" B B THEY HAD A GREAT RETIREMENT B B B B B B B B B B B ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 10:01:35 2009 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Barn finds Sorry to all, Just found out that this story is an urban myth but to all that want to read the story behind the myth. http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 10:17:43 2009 From: Eddie To: Tom PRATHER Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:17:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Barn finds heard that story 100 times before. yeah, it's an urban legend. Here's one that IS true, because it happened to a friend of mine. A husband dies, and he was an old car collector. She calls his buddy, and says, Listen, I need these old cars out of here and now, could you come up and look at what he's got? The husband goes by, knowing much of what the guy had was junk. Turns out, there was a Corvette from the 50's in very good condition, as well as a few other cars from the 40,'s and 50's as well. Mixed in were also a bunch of crap. She tells him: "give me 5 grand, and you can have all of them, but you HAVE to take the shitty cars too..." He tells her, (since the husband was his good friend) "these cars are worth a lot more than that." She says: "I appreciate that, and that's ok. He left me quite well off, and I just want this stuff out of here..." True story. Tom PRATHER wrote: > Sorry to all, Just found out that this story is an urban myth but to all that > want to read the story behind the myth. http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 10:22:21 2009 From: Eddie To: Tom PRATHER Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:21:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Barn finds Another True Story: Buddy of mine decides he wants an old, rare car, and falls in love with some Dodge Brothers Car from the 30's or 40's. Not sure what year, but it's an extremely rare car, only a handful of them were ever made to begin with. he's in Texas, working on a project, and hears about a woman who wants to get rid of the car. Her husband had owned a large company, and kept the car in the lobby of his building. Every time he moved, he moved the car to the new lobby and had it on display. When he retired, he took the car home and PUT IT IN THE LIVING ROOM! Mind you, the house had 15,000 square feet, so there was plenty of room. The husband had died a few years ago, and the woman wanted to sell the big house. When my friend calls the wife, she tells him that basically he can have the car for a few grand, but she wants it out soon, and needs to know when he's coming because she has to have a hole cut in the wall to get the thing out! She only wanted enough money to pay for the repairs to the house! Eddie Tom PRATHER wrote: > Sorry to all, Just found out that this story is an urban myth but to all that > want to read the story behind the myth. http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 11:17:05 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:15:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Radiator Identifications... Ok, So i'm going through my parts supply, and it turns out I have 4 radiators. Two of which I know are good, two which need to be re-cored. I've noticed that there are slight differences between them, and want to identify what years they came off of. The difference specifically is this: The vertical distance between the holes that hold the fan shroud on varies. On two radiators it's 6 1/4". On my other two, it's 7". Does anyone know which years had which? Thanks... Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 11:38:43 2009 From: Eric Gillis To: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:38:21 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Shasta T-shirt SECOND PRINTING/ORDER Thanks so much for the support shown last weekend at Mt. Shasta by all!! So much that I ran out of t-shirts and polos and took orders at Shasta! Printing date is next Friday, the 24th for the second and last batch of Shasta shirts!! If you want one and DIDN'T talk to me at Shasta, email or pm me to place an order. DO THIS BY WEDNESDAY of this week to ensure your order. For those who talked with me, you can send in $18 (Money order preferred, or personal check) as soon as you want. If you want to use paypal, send in $18.50 (partially cover paypal costs) to egillis@ceres.k12.ca.us at paypal. There are a select group (about 3) of you who ordered before Shasta and didn't attend Shasta last week, your shirts are here and awaiting shipment as soon as I get to the post office next week. I am also looking for Chris and Toni Defty's email or phone number to get their address to send off some shirts as well. On a related note, Phyllis has announced that the Modesto Datsun Shasta Group has some dash plaques and event compasses available for purchase. She and I are finalizing payment and shipment details, but pricing is $5.00 for a plaque and $10.00 for a compass. Pictures of the plaque and compass and other Shasta 2009 photos are posted at http://www.pbase.com/egillis/mt_shasta_2009 . I will work on some more event shirts next year, and I have a couple of unique designs in mind for datsuns/roadsters in general. I heard several comments about the polar bear 09 t-shirt (with the purple roadster and exploded diagram of a solex in the background) and will incorporate similar design elements in upcoming offerings. Thanks again, Enjoy the ride!! Eric G _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the webs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 11:43:14 2009 From: davesmbox@aol.com To: eddietude@socal.rr.com Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:42:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Barn finds http://www.coolcatcorp.com/millerauction/MillerAuction.html Check this out. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: Tom PRATHER Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jul 19, 2009 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Barn finds Another True Story:? ? Buddy of mine decides he wants an old, rare car, and falls in love with some Dodge Brothers Car from the 30's or 40's. Not sure what year, but it's an extremely rare car, only a handful of them were ever made to begin with.? ? he's in Texas, working on a project, and hears about a woman who wants to get rid of the car. Her husband had owned a large company, and kept the car in the lobby of his building. Every time he moved, he moved the car to the new lobby and had it on display. When he retired, he took the car home and PUT IT IN THE LIVING ROOM! Mind you, the house had 15,000 square feet, so there was plenty of room. The husband had died a few years ago, and the woman wanted to sell the big house. When my friend calls the wife, she tells him that basically he can have the car for a few grand, but she wants it out soon, and needs to know when he's coming because she has to have a hole cut in the wall to get the thing out! She only wanted enough money to pay for the repairs to the house! ? Eddie? ? ? Tom PRATHER wrote:? > Sorry to all, Just found out that this story is an urban myth but to all that? > want to read the story behind the myth. http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/? > ________________________________________? > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >? > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com? >? > Datsun-roadsters mailing list? >? > http://www.team.net/archive? >? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 12:23:26 2009 From: Eddie To: davesmbox@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:22:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Barn finds That's AWESOME. Stories like that always amaze me. Eddie davesmbox@aol.com wrote: > http://www.coolcatcorp.com/millerauction/MillerAuction.html > > Check this out. > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie > To: Tom PRATHER > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, Jul 19, 2009 12:21 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Barn finds > > Another True Story: > > Buddy of mine decides he wants an old, rare car, and falls in love > with some Dodge Brothers Car from the 30's or 40's. Not sure what > year, but it's an extremely rare car, only a handful of them were ever > made to begin with. > > he's in Texas, working on a project, and hears about a woman who wants > to get rid of the car. Her husband had owned a large company, and kept > the car in the lobby of his building. Every time he moved, he moved > the car to the new lobby and had it on display. When he retired, he > took the car home and PUT IT IN THE LIVING ROOM! Mind you, the house > had 15,000 square feet, so there was plenty of room. The husband had > died a few years ago, and the woman wanted to sell the big house. When > my friend calls the wife, she tells him that basically he can have the > car for a few grand, but she wants it out soon, and needs to know when > he's coming because she has to have a hole cut in the wall to get the > thing out! She only wanted enough money to pay for the repairs to the > house! > Eddie > > > Tom PRATHER wrote: > > Sorry to all, Just found out that this story is an urban myth but to > all that > > want to read the story behind the myth. http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/ > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Stay cool with this summer's hottest movies. Moviefone brings you > trailers, celebrities, movie showtimes and tickets > ! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 12:44:58 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:48:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size Anyone have the bolt size handy for the SU air filter housing? Did these change from SAE to metric in the later models? Thanks. Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 12:46:36 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:46:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] rod and main bearings The manuals say they are the same size. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of barterdude Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:15 AM To: 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' Subject: [Roadsters] rod and main bearings Question on the bearings. I need rod bearings for my 63 1500 (stock), but wondering if they are the same for the 1600? Since we are dropping the bottom end decided to do the main bearings too. Advise on if the same and any sources you could advise would be appreciated. Cheers -- Gary Lasater This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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Dave -----Original Message----- From: Eddie To: Tom PRATHER Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Jul 19, 2009 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Barn finds Another True Story:? ? Buddy of mine decides he wants an old, rare car, and falls in love with some Dodge Brothers Car from the 30's or 40's. Not sure what year, but it's an extremely rare car, only a handful of them were ever made to begin with.? ? he's in Texas, working on a project, and hears about a woman who wants to get rid of the car. Her husband had owned a large company, and kept the car in the lobby of his building. Every time he moved, he moved the car to the new lobby and had it on display. When he retired, he took the car home and PUT IT IN THE LIVING ROOM! Mind you, the house had 15,000 square feet, so there was plenty of room. The husband had died a few years ago, and the woman wanted to sell the big house. When my friend calls the wife, she tells him that basically he can have the car for a few grand, but she wants it out soon, and needs to know when he's coming because she has to have a hole cut in the wall to get the thing out! She only wanted enough money to pay for the repairs to the house! ? Eddie? ? ? Tom PRATHER wrote:? > Sorry to all, Just found out that this story is an urban myth but to all that? > want to read the story behind the myth. http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/? > ________________________________________? > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? >? > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com? >? > Datsun-roadsters mailing list? >? > http://www.team.net/archive? >? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as davesmbox@aol.com? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? Stay cool with this summer's hottest movies. Moviefone brings you trailers, celebrities, movie showtimes and tickets! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 20:52:28 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:52:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Broke Cam- what should I check? Nathaniel, You are not paranoid, you are appropriately cautious. The collision with the piston could easily have bent the valve, even if ever so slightly. Both the engine and the head need to be in the hands of a competent machine shop. The head should be bolted and torqued to the head, and the camshaft rotation should be checked to mke sure it is free. It probably is not. I do not know what remedial action can be taken -- perhaps shimming the cam towers to bring things into line will suffice, but that is beyond my expertise. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Broke Cam- what should I check? > This is the latest in a series of calls for help after I broke my cam. > > The concensus of the group was that I should pull the head and get it > worked on (unless I liked braking cams). Good advice and the possibility > of some Rebello Racing head work made it more inviting. > > So the head is off and I've done a visual inspection of the head, valves, > and pistons. The valves look like they took a hit when the cam broke and > there's a small indent on the top of one of the pistons. I've paranoid > enough that I'm going get someone to pull the valve springs and look a the > valves and valve guides. > > The question is what else I should look for and whether I should pull the > pistons too. I cleaned the top of the pistons best I could around the > area of the valve divit and didn't see any cracking. Ideas? Suggestions? > > Should I just rebuild the whole engine and start from scratch, or is it > unnecessary? > > What else should I look for. > > Nathaniel Leeds > '69 U10, broken cam and heart. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 19 23:40:21 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:39:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spring Bolts and Specs? Does anyone have the bolt diameter for the bolt which goes through the eyes of the leaf springs? Front bolt and rear shackle? I would rather not take mine apart to check it if I don't have to. Can anyone also confirm the stock spring rates @ ~700 lb/in front and ~150 lb/in back? (found by searching forums @ 311s.org) This site lists the front at 522.5 lb/in, but doesn't seem to list a rating for the rear.... http://dsoanews.tripod.com/specs_66_1600.htm#suspension Thanks Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 01:50:35 2009 From: txgslj@q.com To: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:55:47 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] broke cam WOW! I think I finally figured out how to reply to all the messages that fill up my e-mail! Hope this works! I'm sure this info is common knowledge but anyway.. One of the weak points of the 2000's is the head/ cooling system, the fan clutch is worthless, and the heads are fragile and often not properly torqued. Once overheated and warped, the unaware owner/ machinist is likely to just mill the bottom face of the head, This results in a curvature of the top surface of the head. The old school method to properly effect this repair is to bolt the head to a surface plate to insure it is flat,heat the head until it is pliable, and cool it slowly to make it as true as possible. Next mill top and bottom surfaces as little as possible to make sure both surfaces are parallel, shim cam towers so that the over stressed cam chain tensioned doesn't have to take up too much slack,and finally line bore the cam towers. Obviously this is not a cheap fix, and not many shops have the equipment or the knowledge to do this properly! Also, it is important to consider the thickness of the lash pads to maintain proper valve lift/ rocker arm geometry. One of the old rules is not to loosen the cam tower fixing nuts, as this will put the bore that the cam turns in out of alignment. If properly repaired and maintained, the U20 motor is very reliable, but 40 years of inept repairs are sometimes difficult to remedy! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 05:07:33 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:06:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] broke cam Lots of times it is harmonic vibration that breaks cams and cranks. Perhaps a bad crank damper or loose cam chain could have contributed to the problem. The cam is fairly brittle and can shatter if dropped. It is possible that your cam was dropped and it took a while for the damage to show. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 05:25:59 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] broke cam I never heard of that one. I busted a cam many years ago truing the head like an idiot. Simple cure was a used head. Anyone have a rebuildable head for our friend? Jim --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Andy Cost wrote: From: Andy Cost Subject: Re: [Roadsters] broke cam To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 7:06 AM Lots of times it is harmonic vibration that breaks cams and cranks. Perhaps a bad crank damper or loose cam chain could have contributed to the problem. The cam is fairly brittle and can shatter if dropped. It is possible that your cam was dropped and it took a while for the damage to show. Andy You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 05:30:07 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Broke Cam- what should I check? Didn't someone on the list sell cam tower shims? A problem with trimming the block and/or cam too much is the height of the cam centerline gets too short. Them the chain flops too much. Especially a problem if you use thin oil and run high revs, such as racing. (I even replaced my tensioner with NOS to help that issue) Jim NJ 2K 69 --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: From: Gary and Cindy Ault Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Broke Cam- what should I check? To: nmleeds@mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 10:52 PM Nathaniel, You are not paranoid, you are appropriately cautious. The collision with the piston could easily have bent the valve, even if ever so slightly. Both the engine and the head need to be in the hands of a competent machine shop. The head should be bolted and torqued to the head, and the camshaft rotation should be checked to mke sure it is free. It probably is not. I do not know what remedial action can be taken -- perhaps shimming the cam towers to bring things into line will suffice, but that is beyond my expertise. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Broke Cam- what should I check? > This is the latest in a series of calls for help after I broke my cam. > > The concensus of the group was that I should pull the head and get it worked on (unless I liked braking cams). Good advice and the possibility of some Rebello Racing head work made it more inviting. > > So the head is off and I've done a visual inspection of the head, valves, and pistons. The valves look like they took a hit when the cam broke and there's a small indent on the top of one of the pistons. I've paranoid enough that I'm going get someone to pull the valve springs and look a the valves and valve guides. > > The question is what else I should look for and whether I should pull the pistons too. I cleaned the top of the pistons best I could around the area of the valve divit and didn't see any cracking. Ideas? Suggestions? > > Should I just rebuild the whole engine and start from scratch, or is it unnecessary? > > What else should I look for. > > Nathaniel Leeds > '69 U10, broken cam and heart. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 07:43:22 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:43:13 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size As I recall the early are 5/16 fine thread and about 68 they went to 8X1.25 metric. I heli-coil a number where they have been cross threaded or the wrong bolt put in. keith williams ccfcccs _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b In a message dated 7/19/2009 11:45:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ppeters914@comcast.net writes: Anyone have the bolt size handy for the SU air filter housing? Did these change from SAE to metric in the later models? Thanks. Pete You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 09:06:40 2009 From: David Szakovits To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Dat Tran Quoc Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:06:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] stainless bumpers Dat, The stainless steel bumpers just arrived and they are beautiful. List, i thought you may want to know that these are really nice parts, fully polished. Thank you. djs 66,67 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 09:14:23 2009 From: Tim To: Dat Tran Quoc , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:11:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stainless bumpers Great to hear. But are the mount points in the correct location? And if so, how do they fit? From what I read on a VW forum, the bumpers from this company were not fitting correctly. Tim ---- David Szakovits wrote: ============= Dat, The stainless steel bumpers just arrived and they are beautiful. List, i thought you may want to know that these are really nice parts, fully polished. Thank you. djs 66,67 You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 09:38:40 2009 From: "barterdude" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:38:08 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? I am helping to transport my brother's Ferrari Testarossa to Long Beach Pier from Colorado and wondering if any one has good recommendation for auto transport company - reliable, insured and good price. Anything appreciated. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If the read of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return message, and delete or destroy all copies of this communication. 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Now I just have to find this guy, so we can cruise our roadsters together! http://jdmchicago.com/wp/2009/06/feature-1968-datsun-roadster/ -- D.Cooke Midwest Roasters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 09:57:20 2009 From: steven boortz To: barterdude@comcast.net, "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? i'd be willing to fly there and drive it back! s 675MIZU To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:38:08 AM Subject: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? I am helping to transport my brother's Ferrari Testarossa to Long Beach Pier from Colorado and wondering if any one has good recommendation for auto transport company - reliable, insured and good price. Anything appreciated. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If the read of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return message, and delete or destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 10:39:37 2009 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: steven boortz , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? Me too -- by insured, my 30/15 California minimum policy should be enough for a Testarossa? And who covers speeding tickets? -----Original Message----- >From: steven boortz >Sent: Jul 20, 2009 11:56 AM >To: barterdude@comcast.net, "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? > >i'd be willing to fly there and drive it back! > >s >675MIZU >To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" >Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:38:08 AM >Subject: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? > >I am helping to transport my brother's Ferrari Testarossa to Long Beach Pier >from Colorado and wondering if any one has good recommendation for auto >transport company - reliable, insured and good price. Anything appreciated. > > > >Gary Lasater > >founding member www.wycroc.org > >'63 SPL310-300161C > >'63 SPL310-300289B > >'64 SPL310-001289 > >'68 SRL311-11977 > >'69 SRL311-12536 > >'70 SPL311-28169 > >This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to >which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, >confidential and exempt from disclosure. If the read of this message is not >the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering >the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify >us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return message, and >delete or destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. > >17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 > > > >P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail >You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as nmleeds@mindspring.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 11:17:06 2009 From: Linda J To: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:16:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? I'll drive it. I don't speed, but I'm not too good at parallel parking...Is that OK? Linda > From: barterdude@comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:38:08 -0600 > Subject: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? > > I am helping to transport my brother's Ferrari Testarossa to Long Beach Pier > from Colorado and wondering if any one has good recommendation for auto > transport company - reliable, insured and good price. Anything appreciated. > > > > Gary Lasater > > founding member www.wycroc.org > > '63 SPL310-300161C > > '63 SPL310-300289B > > '64 SPL310-001289 > > '68 SRL311-11977 > > '69 SRL311-12536 > > '70 SPL311-28169 > > This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_ML OGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 11:28:19 2009 From: Eddie To: Linda J Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:27:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? Ok, I'll drive, I'll get it there in HALF the time, I WILL speed, but your brother pays for all tickets and court fees, ok? LOL Linda J wrote: > I'll drive it. I don't speed, but I'm not too good at parallel parking...Is > that OK? > > Linda > > >> From: barterdude@comcast.net >> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:38:08 -0600 >> Subject: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? >> >> I am helping to transport my brother's Ferrari Testarossa to Long Beach >> > Pier > >> from Colorado and wondering if any one has good recommendation for auto >> transport company - reliable, insured and good price. Anything >> > appreciated. > >> >> Gary Lasater >> >> founding member www.wycroc.org >> >> '63 SPL310-300161C >> >> '63 SPL310-300289B >> >> '64 SPL310-001289 >> >> '68 SRL311-11977 >> >> '69 SRL311-12536 >> >> '70 SPL311-28169 >> >> This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to >> which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, >> confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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Try it now. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_ML > OGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 11:33:45 2009 From: wchmch@aol.com To: ljordan704@hotmail.com, barterdude@comcast.net, Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:32:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? Ferrari North America uses a company called Horseless Carriage - they are excellent. Intercity Lines also has extensive experience with collector cars. Recent (past 30 days) Intercity charge for enclosed cross country transport was about $1600. Good luck. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 11:44:49 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: , , barterdude Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:44:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] recommending auto transport company? I'll drive it only if it has a tan interior and doesn't stink of cheap cologne. The black interiors are kind of scary looking and always smell like Hai Karate. ;-) "Get back to work Greg!" On 7/20/09 10:32 AM, "wchmch@aol.com" wrote: > Ferrari North America uses a company called Horseless Carriage - they are > excellent. > > Intercity Lines also has extensive experience with collector cars. > > Recent (past 30 days) Intercity charge for enclosed cross country transport > was about $1600. > > Good luck. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 11:51:31 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:51:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator wobble So, I noticed that my fan belt was a bit loose on my 68 1600, so I tightened it. Now the alternator makes a scraping sound. Upon closer inspection, I can now clearly see the problem. The alternator fins are wobbling & hitting the face of the alternator casing. The alternator pulley is also wobbling. So, tightening the belt just put torque on the pulley & now it rubs on the casing. I checked the nut on the face of the pulley & it seems to be tight, so maybe the alternator bearings have gone bad. I checked the Rock Auto parts section & they list 3 parts for the alternator, a "Alternator Rectifier", an "Alternator Drive End Bearing" & a "Alternator Commutator End Bearing", Is this an easy fix or am I destined for a new $185 alternator? My alternator is stamped Mitsubishi. The car was running fine before I attempted the belt tightening, the belt was just a bit loose, but not effecting the alternators performance. The battery was charging just fine. I had recently noticed an occasional rattle like sound coming from the front of the engine at times, so maybe that was the sound of the bearings going bad. I can loosen the belt up a bit & the scraping sound will go away, but the wobble remains. One other option is I have an alternator sitting in my 69 1600, but it's been idle for 17 years or so, would sitting that long ruin the old alternator or would it work as a swap solution? -- D.Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 11:54:04 2009 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Daryl Smith , Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Spring Bolts and Specs? Daryl, I'm not the best source, but I had my front springs tested years ago (~1975) when I had the front suspension partially dismantled to install Koni shocks. I recall that they tested at 500 #/in, but it could easily have been 525. They shop which tested them said the value was correct. But, I am going from memory, and it was over 30 years ago... The 700 #/in value could be comp springs, too. Gary ________________________________ From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:39:34 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Spring Bolts and Specs? Does anyone have the bolt diameter for the bolt which goes through the eyes of the leaf springs? Front bolt and rear shackle? I would rather not take mine apart to check it if I don't have to. Can anyone also confirm the stock spring rates @ ~700 lb/in front and ~150 lb/in back? (found by searching forums @ 311s.org) This site lists the front at 522.5 lb/in, but doesn't seem to list a rating for the rear.... http://dsoanews.tripod.com/specs_66_1600.htm#suspension Thanks Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 12:06:55 2009 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Dave Cooke , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Alternator wobble Dave, I think either solution should be fine. First, I'd try the '69 alternator. If it hasn't been stored outdoors or in a bucket of water, time should not harm it. If that doesn't work, replace the "drive end bearing". I think it's pretty easy to get at, and not pressed into the front plate. (At least, the 2000s are not, and their Mitsubishis, also.) I thought the commutator end was just a bushing, but I'll check my parts book this evening and get a better answer on both points. Gary ________________________________ From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:51:14 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator wobble So, I noticed that my fan belt was a bit loose on my 68 1600, so I tightened it. Now the alternator makes a scraping sound. Upon closer inspection, I can now clearly see the problem. The alternator fins are wobbling & hitting the face of the alternator casing. The alternator pulley is also wobbling. So, tightening the belt just put torque on the pulley & now it rubs on the casing. I checked the nut on the face of the pulley & it seems to be tight, so maybe the alternator bearings have gone bad. I checked the Rock Auto parts section & they list 3 parts for the alternator, a "Alternator Rectifier", an "Alternator Drive End Bearing" & a "Alternator Commutator End Bearing", Is this an easy fix or am I destined for a new $185 alternator? My alternator is stamped Mitsubishi. The car was running fine before I attempted the belt tightening, the belt was just a bit loose, but not effecting the alternators performance. The battery was charging just fine. I had recently noticed an occasional rattle like sound coming from the front of the engine at times, so maybe that was the sound of the bearings going bad. I can loosen the belt up a bit & the scraping sound will go away, but the wobble remains. One other option is I have an alternator sitting in my 69 1600, but it's been idle for 17 years or so, would sitting that long ruin the old alternator or would it work as a swap solution? -- D.Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 15:48:18 2009 From: Linda J To: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:47:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Alternator wobble just had my Mitsubishi alternator rebuilt, though I am still trying to troubleshoot a wiring issue.From the 311 list I found this post from a member:Front bearing brandname TNT, number 6203LU. Rear bearing is brandname KOYO, number 6201RSThe bearings will suit both the 1600 and 2000s alternator covers and rotor shafts.A bearing company can cross check the numbers. I got 2 bearings ,around 5 dollars ea ? and had the rebuilder put them in. You could probably do the work yourself though.Brushes are also available.Good luckLinda > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:51:14 -0500 > From: cookefam314@gmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator wobble > > So, I noticed that my fan belt was a bit loose on my 68 1600, so I tightened > it. Now the alternator makes a scraping sound. Upon closer inspection, I can > now clearly see the problem. The alternator fins are wobbling & hitting the > face of the alternator casing. The alternator pulley is also wobbling. So, > tightening the belt just put torque on the pulley & now it rubs on the > casing. I checked the nut on the face of the pulley & it seems to be tight, > so maybe the alternator bearings have gone bad. I checked the Rock Auto > parts section & they list 3 parts for the alternator, a "Alternator > Rectifier", an "Alternator Drive End Bearing" & a "Alternator Commutator End > Bearing", Is this an easy fix or am I destined for a new $185 alternator? My > alternator is stamped Mitsubishi. The car was running fine before I > attempted the belt tightening, the belt was just a bit loose, but not > effecting the alternators performance. The battery was charging just fine. I > had recently noticed an occasional rattle like sound coming from the front > of the engine at times, so maybe that was the sound of the bearings going > bad. I can loosen the belt up a bit & the scraping sound will go away, but > the wobble remains. > One other option is I have an alternator sitting in my 69 1600, but > it's been idle for 17 years or so, would sitting that long ruin the old > alternator or would it work as a swap solution? > > -- > D.Cooke > Midwest Roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. 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Thank you, Terry ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 20 19:54:23 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:54:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size I presumed that Pete was referring to 2000 SU air cleaners, aince the 1600 air cleaners have wing nuts on captive bolts. The Nissan parts manual only lists one wing bolt for the 2000 SU air cleaner, and it is metric. Can't comment on the 1600 air cleaner. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size > As I recall the early are 5/16 fine thread and about 68 they went to > 8X1.25 > metric. I heli-coil a number where they have been cross threaded or the > wrong bolt put in. > > keith williams > ccfcccs > _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ > (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) > > bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b > > > In a message dated 7/19/2009 11:45:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > ppeters914@comcast.net writes: > > Anyone have the bolt size handy for the SU air filter housing? Did these > change from SAE to metric in the later models? > > Thanks. > > Pete > You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas > for any occasion. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 00:45:18 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:44:21 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 15" Panasports w/Tires for sale! I am selling my 15" Panasports with tires and center caps. I bought these wheels brand new, and they are in pristine condition. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2757398560103926530foWDxe -15x6" "FS" model old casting design -The wheels are +10 offset, a somewhat "agressive" offset for a roadster. Definitely gives the car a bulldog stance, while remaining flush with the fenders. -The larger lip on these wheels sets them apart from "standard" 15x6 +15mm offset Panasports often seen on roadsters. -(4) "hex" style center caps are included http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2579151170103926530kLrEES Condition: -I am fanatic about my wheels, and I dismount them from my car to clean inside/out. -Panasport offset/QC label still intact! -Tires are 195/50/15 Bridgestone S-03 Pole Position with plenty of tread Price: -$750 obo, local preferred but can deliver up to 50miles. More pictures: http://sports.webshots.com/photo/1318364246066001410ntiKNr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 06:19:55 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: aultgc@att.net, ppeters914@comcast.net, Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:18:46 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size I was referring to the bolts that hold the base to the carbs. keith williams ccfcccs _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b In a message dated 7/20/2009 6:54:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aultgc@att.net writes: I presumed that Pete was referring to 2000 SU air cleaners, aince the 1600 air cleaners have wing nuts on captive bolts. The Nissan parts manual only lists one wing bolt for the 2000 SU air cleaner, and it is metric. Can't comment on the 1600 air cleaner. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size > As I recall the early are 5/16 fine thread and about 68 they went to > 8X1.25 > metric. I heli-coil a number where they have been cross threaded or the > wrong bolt put in. > > keith williams > ccfcccs > _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ > (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) > > bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b > > > In a message dated 7/19/2009 11:45:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > ppeters914@comcast.net writes: > > Anyone have the bolt size handy for the SU air filter housing? Did these > change from SAE to metric in the later models? > > Thanks. > > Pete > You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas > for any occasion. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 09:52:06 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size So was I, which is why I said filter -HOUSING- instead of -COVER-. Sorry for any confusion. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: aultgc@att.net, ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:18:46 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size I was referring to the bolts that hold the base to the carbs. keith williams In a message dated 7/20/2009 6:54:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aultgc@att.net writes: I presumed that Pete was referring to 2000 SU air cleaners, aince the 1600 air cleaners have wing nuts on captive bolts. The Nissan parts manual only lists one wing bolt for the 2000 SU air cleaner, and it is metric. Can't comment on the 1600 air cleaner. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size > As I recall the early are 5/16 fine thread and about 68 they went to > 8X1.25 > metric. I heli-coil a number where they have been cross threaded or the > wrong bolt put in. > > keith williams > > > In a message dated 7/19/2009 11:45:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > ppeters914@comcast.net writes: > > Anyone have the bolt size handy for the SU air filter housing? Did these > change from SAE to metric in the later models? > > Thanks. > > Pete What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 14:21:11 2009 From: Eric Gillis To: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:18:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Shasta T-shirt SECOND PRINTING/ORDER Hi List, Just some clarification and additional information for those interested, sorry for the interruption. If you want one and DIDN'T talk to me at Shasta, email or pm me to place an order. DO THIS BY WEDNESDAY of this week to ensure your order. For those who talked with me, you can use paypal or check/money order, send in $20 (partially cover shipping/packaging costs) to egillis@ceres.k12.ca.us at paypal. Polos will be $23 by paypal or money order/check. I will cover local (us) shipping, but it will be first class postage, split any long distance shipping costs. I apologize for the shift in pricing, packaging and shipping was a bit more than I expected, if you are picking them up locally, the price is the original $18 and $22. I am still taking the additional order or so, email mkiisupra@hotmail.com with any questions. I will post a list on Wednesday on 311s.org site as well. Enjoy, Eric G _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 16:24:14 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] datsun parts help I need the bolts etc to mount my air cleaner to mount srl311 2k 69 engine. SU carbs. Does anyone have the bolts, etc available? If not, where and what do I buy to use an after market air cleaner. I have looked for one, and can't find one that will fit. JimG NJ 2k 69 srl311 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 16:37:38 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Jim Gammon'" , "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:37:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] datsun parts help http://www.itgairfilters.com/megaflow.asp?section=megaflow&CarMake=NISSAN (DATSUN) Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:24 PM To: Datsun roadster Subject: [Roadsters] datsun parts help I need the bolts etc to mount my air cleaner to mount srl311 2k 69 engine. SU carbs. Does anyone have the bolts, etc available? If not, where and what do I buy to use an after market air cleaner. I have looked for one, and can't find one that will fit. JimG NJ 2k 69 srl311 Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 16:57:59 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:57:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 66 Seat Release On the 1966 1600 are the seat slide release's on the tranny hump side or the door side? Thanks! Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 18:11:26 2009 From: mvaughn120@aol.com To: slowboy@cox.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:10:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 66 Seat Release Door Side Shelly SPL311-00058 -----Original Message----- From: SlowBoy To: 'Datsun roadster' Sent: Tue, Jul 21, 2009 6:57 pm Subject: [Roadsters] 66 Seat Release On the 1966 1600 are the seat slide release's on the tranny hump side or the door side? Thanks! Jim You are subscribed as mvaughn120@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 18:24:15 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: SlowBoy , 'Datsun roadster' Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:23:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 66 Seat Release My seats have been removed/replaced, so I don't what the original configuration was, but they are on the tranny hump side now......... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "SlowBoy" > On the 1966 1600 are the seat slide release's on the tranny hump side or > the > door side? > > Thanks! > > Jim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 18:41:27 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] bolts for air filter base plate to SU carbs (was "Re: I asked the same question a couple days ago, and Keith Williams said 8 x 1.25 (metric) for the later cars although he didn't specify the length. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gammon" To: "Datsun roadster" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:23:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] datsun parts help I need the bolts etc to mount my air cleaner to mount srl311 2k 69 engine. SU carbs. Does anyone have the bolts, etc available? If not, where and what do I buy to use an after market air cleaner. I have looked for one, and can't find one that will fit. JimG NJ 2k 69 srl311 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 21 19:59:51 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:59:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size I couldn't find a listing for the three ordinary bolts which secure the back of the air filter housing to the carburetors, but I do know the size of those on my carbs. However, Nissan lists only one of the "nut-bolts" into which one of the wing bolts threads, and it is 8mm x 1.25, as are the wing bolts themselves. From this I infer that all the 2000 SU carbs had metric fasteners. This seems logical, since I believe '67-1/2 is when Nissan went generally metric. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size > As I recall the early are 5/16 fine thread and about 68 they went to > 8X1.25 > metric. I heli-coil a number where they have been cross threaded or the > wrong bolt put in. > > keith williams > ccfcccs > _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ > (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) > > bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b > > > In a message dated 7/19/2009 11:45:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > ppeters914@comcast.net writes: > > Anyone have the bolt size handy for the SU air filter housing? Did these > change from SAE to metric in the later models? > > Thanks. > > Pete > You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas > for any occasion. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 12:10:01 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] time estimate for removing windshield frame, Now I see why folks don't like to search the mailing list; you have to search each individual month (tedious), and the archives only go back to 2007. Anyways..... 1966 1600 Trying to confirm whether engine is actually overheating or if gauge is not working properly. I suspect the latter, and need to correct the "creative" PO wiring on water temp and gas gauges. Reaching up under and behind the dash a bit frustrating, so thinking I need to bite the bullet and remove the windshield frame (4 bolts & 2 nuts, right?), dash pad (4 nuts?), and dash (???). What's a reasonable time to accomplish this? Any gotchas? Thanks. Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 12:22:59 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Pete Peters , Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:22:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] time estimate for removing windshield frame, Removing them is pretty easy (probably less than an hour), but I remember having a hard time with lining up some of the screws when I re-assembled mine. Although you would still be on your back looking up, removing the drivers seat is an alternative that does make it a little easier....... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" > Now I see why folks don't like to search the mailing list; you have to > search each individual month (tedious), and the archives only go back to > 2007. Anyways..... > > 1966 1600 > > Trying to confirm whether engine is actually overheating or if gauge is > not working properly. I suspect the latter, and need to correct the > "creative" PO wiring on water temp and gas gauges. Reaching up under and > behind the dash a bit frustrating, so thinking I need to bite the bullet > and remove the windshield frame (4 bolts & 2 nuts, right?), dash pad (4 > nuts?), and dash (???). > > What's a reasonable time to accomplish this? Any gotchas? > > Thanks. > > Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 13:25:09 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:24:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] SRL - SU air filter option, alternate http://www.paeco.com/Weiand%20Air%20Cleaners.htm I like the look of these more than the ITG's (look a little more "period"), but use of them does preclude the crankcase breather, and you'd want to put a "shorty" air horn underneath them, as I think it is undesireable to run without. Fergus O ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 13:43:44 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'O'Farrell, Fergus P \(AS\)'" , Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:43:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SRL - SU air filter option, alternate Very true. I ran the Weiand on my SU's for a long time. http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/mymotor1.jpg I detected a loss of midrange power, probably because of the less-controlled airflow. Unfortunately there isn't enough room inside the foam element to fit a proper air horn, but you could probably cut the air horns off a stock air filter base plate and weld them in, if you really wanted to. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:25 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] SRL - SU air filter option, alternate http://www.paeco.com/Weiand%20Air%20Cleaners.htm I like the look of these more than the ITG's (look a little more "period"), but use of them does preclude the crankcase breather, and you'd want to put a "shorty" air horn underneath them, as I think it is undesireable to run without. Fergus O ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 13:55:05 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Re: SRL - SU air filter option, alternate How are the K+N? (I just ordered from them, I hope not a mistake. JimG NJ 2K 69 --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Gordon Glasgow wrote: From: Gordon Glasgow Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SRL - SU air filter option, alternate To: "'O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)'" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 3:43 PM Very true. I ran the Weiand on my SU's for a long time. http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/mymotor1.jpg I detected a loss of midrange power, probably because of the less-controlled airflow. Unfortunately there isn't enough room inside the foam element to fit a proper air horn, but you could probably cut the air horns off a stock air filter base plate and weld them in, if you really wanted to. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:25 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] SRL - SU air filter option, alternate http://www.paeco.com/Weiand%20Air%20Cleaners.htm I like the look of these more than the ITG's (look a little more "period"), but use of them does preclude the crankcase breather, and you'd want to put a "shorty" air horn underneath them, as I think it is undesireable to run without. Fergus O You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 15:56:30 2009 From: Paul Bauman To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] time estimate for removing windshield frame, Wait a minute. Let me get this straight. There's work you can do on a roadster that doesn't involve gotchas?? Seriously though, Daryl's idea of removing the seat (or seats) is a pretty good solution. For an electrical scavenger hunt, I would probably remove the radio console and the steering wheel as well. Also, make sure the dash has got a good ground connection to the body someplace. The gauges ground through the metal on the back of the dash. Before anything, you'll probably want to check the instrument relay attached to side of the steering column support. It feeds the gas and temp gauges. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 (currently headless) On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 18:09 +0000, Pete Peters wrote: > Now I see why folks don't like to search the mailing list; you have to search each individual month (tedious), and the archives only go back to 2007. Anyways..... > > 1966 1600 > > Trying to confirm whether engine is actually overheating or if gauge is not working properly. I suspect the latter, and need to correct the "creative" PO wiring on water temp and gas gauges. Reaching up under and behind the dash a bit frustrating, so thinking I need to bite the bullet and remove the windshield frame (4 bolts & 2 nuts, right?), dash pad (4 nuts?), and dash (???). > > What's a reasonable time to accomplish this? Any gotchas? > > Thanks. > > Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 16:00:42 2009 From: "E Scanlon" To: "Pete Peters" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:00:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] time estimate for removing windshield frame, Overheating: Have you considered putting the thermal sensor into a water pot that is being heated, alongside a known thermometer then checking against the gauge? I know it's a bit unusual to do it this way, but as you heat the water and observe the thermometer you'll know it's accuracy or it's deviation from actual. Two wires extending the base and the connection would be all you would need to extend the circuit. As far as removing the windshield/dash, you may find that while it would be a minor help, it wouldn't be what you would expect, other than putting the instrument cluster in your lap. Don't forget that the early roadsters had a sheet metal support that ran the full width and length of the dash pad that was part of the body. So by the time you remove the windshield to get at the dash pad, then removed the dash pad so you could get to the instrument face plate and then removed it... as Daryl mentioned, it would have been easier to simply remove the driver's seat and lie on the floor as that is what you would have to do anyhow. Sorry if that's a big "gotcha!" E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" ... > 1966 1600 > > Trying to confirm whether engine is actually overheating or if gauge is > not working properly. I suspect the latter, and need to correct the > "creative" PO wiring on water temp and gas gauges. Reaching up under and > behind the dash a bit frustrating, so thinking I need to bite the bullet > and remove the windshield frame (4 bolts & 2 nuts, right?), dash pad (4 > nuts?), and dash (???). > > What's a reasonable time to accomplish this? Any gotchas? > > Thanks. > > Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 16:09:43 2009 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: Paul Bauman Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:09:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] time estimate for removing windshield frame, I agree with Paul. I was told that removing the seats is best when removing/replacing the Windshield. I thought, dang those are long bolts if removing the seats help getting the Windshield frame off. Well I am 6'1" and back then I was 245Lbs, after banging my head, cutting my arms, and bending my back in un-natural ways I realized that I need to either learn Yoga fast or take the seats out. So I took the seats out. WOW! What a difference it made. It made life so easy that now I remove the seats when I rotate the tires too. Just kidding, but it really does make life a little nicer when you are removing the Windshield. Chris On 7/22/09, Paul Bauman wrote: > > Wait a minute. Let me get this straight. There's work you can do on a > roadster that doesn't involve gotchas?? > > Seriously though, Daryl's idea of removing the seat (or seats) is a > pretty good solution. For an electrical scavenger hunt, I would probably > remove the radio console and the steering wheel as well. Also, make sure > the dash has got a good ground connection to the body someplace. The > gauges ground through the metal on the back of the dash. > > Before anything, you'll probably want to check the instrument relay > attached to side of the steering column support. It feeds the gas and > temp gauges. > > > Paul Bauman > Westminster, CA > 67 1600 (currently headless) > > > On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 18:09 +0000, Pete Peters wrote: > > Now I see why folks don't like to search the mailing list; you have to > search each individual month (tedious), and the archives only go back to > 2007. Anyways..... > > > > 1966 1600 > > > > Trying to confirm whether engine is actually overheating or if gauge is > not working properly. I suspect the latter, and need to correct the > "creative" PO wiring on water temp and gas gauges. Reaching up under and > behind the dash a bit frustrating, so thinking I need to bite the bullet and > remove the windshield frame (4 bolts & 2 nuts, right?), dash pad (4 nuts?), > and dash (???). > > > > What's a reasonable time to accomplish this? Any gotchas? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Pete > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 17:24:08 2009 From: "Brian Hollands" To: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:23:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SRL - SU air filter option, alternate Actually, I used to run Weiand's just like these and you can run the breather hose to them. There's a spot on the rear plate that can be punched out for a elbow to connect the hose to or you can put an elbow on both filters and run to a Tee between them with the hose attached to the Tee. I did not have shorty stacks under them though. Solex's with 50mm horns under an ITG now... ________________________________ Brian Hollands '69 2000 Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- http://www.paeco.com/Weiand%20Air%20Cleaners.htm I like the look of these more than the ITG's (look a little more "period"), but use of them does preclude the crankcase breather, and you'd want to put a "shorty" air horn underneath them, as I think it is undesireable to run without. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 17:49:52 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] time estimate for removing windshield frame, Appreciate the many responses. I've had a Simpson 260 since the '70's, and bought an auto-ranging digital meter from Sears several years ago. Yes, I could pull the temp sensor and stick it in a pot of boiling water, etc, etc, but I want to avoid another potential repair as the sensor looks rusted in place. Did not realize a non-contact thermal sensor was that cheap. Will stop at Harbor Freight on the way home. That said, the water temp and gas gauges are wired incorrectly. PO ran 12v directly to the gauges, bypassing the instrument voltage regulator. The gauges and senders may be fine, but they're both reading high to pegged, probably because they're getting full 12v instead of through the instrument VR. The instrument cluster in my lap would be a whole lot easier than laying on my back reaching into a space sized for a 12yo girl. Will try Mike's suggestion of removing the tach to access the temp gauge wires, and the glove box to access the gas gauge. Will keep y'all posted. Pete "...slowly I turned, step by step..." ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 18:32:30 2009 From: D Riedel To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:32:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator troubles.... VR bench tests, I cleaned up my gauge voltage reg and re-installed it. This gave me a credible gas reading, and no temp (but I was sitting in the driveway not running). So, I went for drive to warm the engine and fill the tank. The temp may have risen a little but it stayed below the lowest line. I then filled the tank and it didn't change the fuel reading (just under 1/4). So, I bench tested the VR and it seems fine: Starts at source voltage, holds for a few seconds then pulses between ~0V and 10.5V (where I had the power supply set). Put it back in the car, tried it backwards to confirm that wasn't the problem. OK. I then bypassed the VR by simply pushing the ignition and gauge leads together: no movement from temp, fuel rose to about 60% full then held there. Any ideas what this is telling me? I would appear that the temperature gauge itself may be dead, but why the partial operation of the fuel gauge with a seemingly functioning voltage reg? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 18:36:19 2009 From: Steve Ehlers To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, ppeters914@comcast.net, Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:43:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SU air filter housing bolt size and datsun parts Pete and Jim, What fasteners do you need ? I have ALL the factory bolts and Nut/Studs in stock both new and used for mounting a 2 Liter air cleaner to SU's and the housing bolts and washer packings .For that mater ,I can do R16 SU's also . Steve www.risingsunperformance.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 22 20:23:05 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Pete Peters" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:22:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] time estimate for removing windshield frame, Pete, If all you are doing is wiring, I recommend trying this way: Remove the seats (four nuts/FW and LW on each.) Should have thick, like 3/16-inches, flat washers under the floor pan. I believe these were fitted to keep the seats from pulling through the floor in a collision. On the driver's side, pull the steering wheel -- easy on the '66. Now you have a flat surface on which to lie, and getting at most stuff under the dash is fairly straight-forward. I pulled all my gauges and checked wiring when I refinished the '66 in 1993 this way. I have also spent a lot of time contorted between the steering wheel and the seat bottom cushion, so I pull things when I know I'm going to be under there a while. If that doesn't work for you, you can always do more radical surgery. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: [Roadsters] time estimate for removing windshield frame, dash pad and dash (early flat dash) > Now I see why folks don't like to search the mailing list; you have to > search each individual month (tedious), and the archives only go back to > 2007. Anyways..... > > 1966 1600 > > Trying to confirm whether engine is actually overheating or if gauge is > not working properly. I suspect the latter, and need to correct the > "creative" PO wiring on water temp and gas gauges. Reaching up under and > behind the dash a bit frustrating, so thinking I need to bite the bullet > and remove the windshield frame (4 bolts & 2 nuts, right?), dash pad (4 > nuts?), and dash (???). > > What's a reasonable time to accomplish this? Any gotchas? > > Thanks. > > Pete > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 07:29:15 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: stamuki@gmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:27:50 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gauge voltage regulator troubles.... VR bench tests, Try checking the gauges. Remove them and with your variable power supply vary the voltage going to the gauge. It should peg about 6 volts. Also, if you ground the sensor wire that gauge should peg. The system is pretty basic, battery to regulator to gauge to sensor to ground. At this point pull the sensor wire loose and ground it. That will do an end to end check of everything but the sensor. If the gauge pegs then the sensor is the problem. If not it is the gauge or wiring. Test the gauge and you will be down to wiring. keith williams ccfcccs _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b In a message dated 7/22/2009 5:32:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stamuki@gmail.com writes: I cleaned up my gauge voltage reg and re-installed it. This gave me a credible gas reading, and no temp (but I was sitting in the driveway not running). So, I went for drive to warm the engine and fill the tank. The temp may have risen a little but it stayed below the lowest line. I then filled the tank and it didn't change the fuel reading (just under 1/4). So, I bench tested the VR and it seems fine: Starts at source voltage, holds for a few seconds then pulses between ~0V and 10.5V (where I had the power supply set). Put it back in the car, tried it backwards to confirm that wasn't the problem. OK. I then bypassed the VR by simply pushing the ignition and gauge leads together: no movement from temp, fuel rose to about 60% full then held there. Any ideas what this is telling me? I would appear that the temperature gauge itself may be dead, but why the partial operation of the fuel gauge with a seemingly functioning voltage reg? -- Dave Riedel '69 2000 Victoria, BC You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 07:31:26 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: ppeters914@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:30:38 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] time estimate for removing windshield frame, I love my Simpson 260. Do you have the new one with the circuit breaker and off position on the selector dial? Mine is the older one with neither. keith williams ccfcccs _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b In a message dated 7/22/2009 4:50:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ppeters914@comcast.net writes: Appreciate the many responses. I've had a Simpson 260 since the '70's, and bought an auto-ranging digital meter from Sears several years ago. Yes, I could pull the temp sensor and stick it in a pot of boiling water, etc, etc, but I want to avoid another potential repair as the sensor looks rusted in place. Did not realize a non-contact thermal sensor was that cheap. Will stop at Harbor Freight on the way home. That said, the water temp and gas gauges are wired incorrectly. PO ran 12v directly to the gauges, bypassing the instrument voltage regulator. The gauges and senders may be fine, but they're both reading high to pegged, probably because they're getting full 12v instead of through the instrument VR. The instrument cluster in my lap would be a whole lot easier than laying on my back reaching into a space sized for a 12yo girl. Will try Mike's suggestion of removing the tach to access the temp gauge wires, and the glove box to access the gas gauge. Will keep y'all posted. Pete "...slowly I turned, step by step..." You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 08:29:14 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:28:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Under dash work, seat removal If I only knew how often I'd be taking out the seats over the years, I'd have put in push-pins long ago. Take out the driver seat, pull the clevis pins on the clutch/brake, tie back the pedals, wear safety glasses as everything likes to fall right in our eyes, and get one of those velcro strapped flashlites that straps to your forehead. (oh, and I now have a foam pad that sits in the footwell area, next up: Barcalounger!) Removing the wheel can help, but my a$$ is almost against the package shelf, so I found leaving it on gave me a better handle to hoist myself in/out, which happens often because at each step you realize all the tools you forgot. Center console out gives ya a good tool staging area, and more free elbow room, and allows easier tracing of what wires are coming thru the firewall and where they go (especially when banjaxed by the PO). Good luck, stay limber! Fergus O ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 11:55:25 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:53:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 12:05:12 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: Tim Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:00:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft Been having a similar problem on my Z, and someone reminded me to adjust the rear brakes. That helped a lot. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Tim wrote: > I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. > > Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 12:34:30 2009 From: "Ken & Tammy Williams" To: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:34:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Sunday at Road America Hey everybody. I posted this over at 311s.org, but thought I'd add a note here as well. We took the roadster to Road America on Sunday and got to tour the track for about 45 minutes. It was an absolute blast, and I can't wait for the next time. There are a few rules, but basically they just remind you that it is touring, not racing. They have a wink-wink-nudge-nudge speed limit, but I was exceeding the limit in the straights, and still getting my doors sucked off as some of the other cars sped by. My poor little skinny street tires were doing all they could to hang on. If you are interested, go to http://www.partypics.com and enter Elkhart in the code, and look at all the photos. My car is on page 8 if you want to skip to the best.;-). There are a couple of photos of us preparing to overtake a Porsche and a new Camaro, but unfortunately they missed us humiliating them..... Ken '67 1600 in blue Janesville, WI ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 12:59:47 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft That and bleed the master with the car angled slightly uphill....both on my ToDo list once I replace the crusty-rusty rear bleeder screws. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Oakes" To: "Tim" Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:00:24 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft Been having a similar problem on my Z, and someone reminded me to adjust the rear brakes. That helped a lot. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Tim wrote: > I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. > > Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 13:24:03 2009 From: "alagams@juno.com" To: tputland@charter.net Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:22:04 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft Make sure you adjust the rear brakes or you'll never get a good hard pedal. ____________________________________________________________ Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for more info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQZarZ3BvPfDYyqBOaBZENNiqzP ccBl4zZhuYus1c1YhFkfBOjFfC/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 17:33:29 2009 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:32:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft Tim, Along with making sure your brakes are properly bled, make sure the pistons in your rear brake adjusters are moving in and out as you turn the adjuster screw. The pistons can freeze to the adjuster body and you may not really be adjusting your brakes. If you have to service the adjusters be sure to lubricate them with anti-seize compound when you reassemble them. Two other things really helped my brakes. First, I installed a firewall brace on the master cylinder. That really profides support to the master cylinder and a firmer feel on the brake pedal. The brace also stops or prevents cracks on the firewall under the master cylinder. Second, on a fun run a couple of years ago I REALLY got the brakes hot. So hot they stunk.... Going up hill, and I still had to come down the same hill accellerating hard in 2nd gear only and braking hard into the corners. The brakes have been much better ever since. Apparently the brakes are seated very well now. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft >I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at >first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be >pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. > > Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 19:02:59 2009 From: "Joe Russo" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:02:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft One other thing to check/consider is the rubber hose at the slave cylinder. I had soft pedal and determined it was the rubber hose "ballooning" under load. Joe I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 19:18:42 2009 From: "Joe Russo" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:18:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft Corrction - I had a soft clutch at clutch slave so brake hoses might be the issue -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:53 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? Tim You are subscribed as jrusso07@rochester.rr.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 20:49:07 2009 From: Linda J To: , Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:48:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 21:17:23 2009 From: Linda J To: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:06:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 21:57:50 2009 From: Linda J To: , Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:53:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft SS hoses help tooLinda > From: jrusso07@rochester.rr.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:18:18 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft > > Corrction - I had a soft clutch at clutch slave so brake hoses might be the > issue > > _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 22:42:45 2009 From: Steve Jacobson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft Tim, Sounds like it could be rotor runout. If the rotors "wobble" they will push the pistons back into the caliper too far, then you have to push twice; once to get them back in range or touching a bit, once to do the real braking. In between of course they can lget pushed back in a little. This assuming that you can sit in the garage and mash the pedal and hold it for a time without it going down. It should be a firm pedal pretty quickly. In other words, not a lot of travel once the pads get to the rotor. If not, could be more air in their yet compressing easier than the fluid. Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com Message: 8 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:53:25 -0700 From: Tim Subject: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Message-ID: <20090723135325.HJB9R.2300017.root@mp11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 23 23:43:14 2009 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:41:06 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Wheels or sites Hi gang, I'm looking for an UNBENT pair of 280zx five spoke wheels. I only need two. Discovered that both my fronts are slightly bent, causing the wobble that won't balance out at 65mph. I would try moving the rears to the front but they have been modified to work with the spacers I run. I figure I might have some luck with the list, or that one of you might know of a 510 or Z list I could post my request to. I considered having them straightened, but they want $125 a wheel, and that seems like too much to me. Let me know off list if you have any resources... thanks! Greg Burrows Bonney Lake, WA ____________________________________________________________ Save on Moving Supplies. Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYdlrpGp3cqyRElcSmuiu8qai PrFKpC1MRnPF2Rg5NnxIix0jGhRRm/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 24 07:04:58 2009 From: Tim To: Steve Jacobson , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 6:04:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft Thanks for the suggestions all. Especially the "quick and easy" ones. Those are the kinds of advice I need: the quickly checked and verified and then either fixed or discarded as being ok. I had forgotten about adjusting the rears--mush brain strikes again. And I was not able to move the rear adjuster on one wheel so I did the PB Blaster thing to it. Hopefully today I can move it as this is what I am betting is the issue. (the rubber hoses are all ok.) Then I will soak the other side--it was getting too late in the day yesterday to jack the other side up (again) and then remove the wheel (again). What do people use on the rear adjuster (besides a crescent wrench)? I do not want to round the corners. I don't think it is the rotors; wouldn't I feel the warp/out of round, in the pedal? I know I have felt bad rotors in a couple of our fleet cars at work. thanks again all, very much! Tim ---- Steve Jacobson wrote: ============= Tim, Sounds like it could be rotor runout. If the rotors "wobble" they will push the pistons back into the caliper too far, then you have to push twice; once to get them back in range or touching a bit, once to do the real braking. In between of course they can lget pushed back in a little. This assuming that you can sit in the garage and mash the pedal and hold it for a time without it going down. It should be a firm pedal pretty quickly. In other words, not a lot of travel once the pads get to the rotor. If not, could be more air in their yet compressing easier than the fluid. Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society www.elrss.com Message: 8 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:53:25 -0700 From: Tim Subject: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Message-ID: <20090723135325.HJB9R.2300017.root@mp11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? Tim You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 24 07:32:15 2009 From: chalsted@comcast.net To: Tim Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft Hi Tim, I use a 1/4 inch drive socket backwards... clamp a set of vice grips real tight onto the socket and the square end that you'd normally put on the wrench fits nice and tight over the adjuster. doesn't really matter what size socket so long as 1/4 inch drive. Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 24 08:16:30 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:15:56 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Old School Meet Pictures! There was a nice turnout of Datsuns tonight in Sunnyvale, CA. Lots of 510s but once the roadsters showed up everyone young and old flocked to see themMark and his '66 Turbo/EFI U20Eddie and his '66 S15 SR20Matt and his '68 SPLI counted 5 KA24DE 510s and 1 SR20DET 510.There was a sweet Mazda RX2, and some cool Toyotas. Not bad for get together outside a Starbuck's! Enjoy the pics:http://rides.webshots.com/album/573704521znKYrl?start=0 Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 24 08:45:24 2009 From: "Bubba" To: , "Tim" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:43:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft 1/4 inch socket backwards, with an allen wrench in the socket. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Tim" Cc: Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft > Hi Tim, > > I use a 1/4 inch drive socket backwards... clamp a set of vice grips real > tight onto the socket and the square end that you'd normally put on the > wrench fits nice and tight over the adjuster. doesn't really matter what > size socket so long as 1/4 inch drive. > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 24 13:00:05 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Tim'" , "'Steve Jacobson'" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:59:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft You can get 8-point sockets. But the truth is, if the adjuster is so stuck that you're in danger of rounding it off, it needs to be removed, cleaned and lubricated with high-temp brake grease. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:04 AM To: Steve Jacobson; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft What do people use on the rear adjuster (besides a crescent wrench)? I do not want to round the corners. Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 24 13:00:26 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:59:41 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Old School Meet Pics, thanks Alvin Great pics as always Alvin. It still amazes me how "correct" a VG30E looks in a 510 engine bay. I love Pic 9, where some guy is doing a serious "whassuwiddat" on Alvin's new rear end. (of his car I mean) Mark's U-20 turbo is a thing of beauty, especially knowing it was done with "no cutting". There is a cool 411 in a background shot that missed the pic section, but I am partial to that body style (and back seat option). Fergus O ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 24 15:19:50 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old School Meet Pics, thanks Alvin That's Bluebie, a '67 RL411 owned by Pete Peterson. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus P O'Farrell (AS)" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:59:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Old School Meet Pics, thanks Alvin B There is a cool 411 in B a background shot that missed the pic section, but I am partial to that body style (and back seat option). Fergus O Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 24 19:45:12 2009 From: "dave" To: "'Bubba'" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:38:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft Oh, that's a good one with the allen wrench. -----Original Message----- From: Bubba [mailto:bubwin@mts.net] 1/4 inch socket backwards, with an allen wrench in the socket. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: > Hi Tim, > > I use a 1/4 inch drive socket backwards... clamp a set of vice grips real > tight onto the socket and the square end that you'd normally put on the > wrench fits nice and tight over the adjuster. doesn't really matter what > size socket so long as 1/4 inch drive. > > Craig > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 24 22:18:12 2009 From: Ritchie Labate To: Datsun Roadster blog Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator swap I have a '68 2000 and need to replace my original alternator (on driver side). Is there a completely clean, aftermarket, unmodified swap available? 311s.org did not have any listed. It did mention Ford Couriers but the mounts are different. Also, I am not interested in a GM swap. Thank you! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 05:01:23 2009 From: chalsted@comcast.net To: dave Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft I'd suggest a long handled allen wrench...doing it with vice grips just gives more leverage and the 3" or so typical length of an allen wrenchB just won't do it. those suckers get pretty well rusted in.... Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 05:35:16 2009 From: Mike Harper To: dave , chalsted@comcast.net Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft Or use a hex socket and ratchet...after the PB Blaster of course, let's not break anything. Mike Harper --- On Sat, 7/25/09, chalsted@comcast.net wrote: > From: chalsted@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft > To: "dave" > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 6:56 AM > I'd suggest a long handled allen > wrench...doing it with vice grips just gives > more leverage and the 3" or so typical length of an allen > wrenchB just won't > do it. those suckers get pretty well rusted in.... ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 06:32:11 2009 From: "Joe Russo" To: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:25:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft I 2nd others on the list that have encourage cleaning up the adjustor. It's really quite simple to remove the brake adjuster - two 7/16" nuts on the later models. It's so much easier to work on the thing on the bench. I have cleaned these up on all my cars and some were stuck hard. It took PB blaster and heat to free. I would never be able to move the adjustor in the manner it was intended while on the car. The adjustor pistons were stuck in the body and leverage just doesn't do it. Had to run them on wire wheel to clean 'em up - but they will be good as new when you are finished. Joe Or use a hex socket and ratchet...after the PB Blaster of course, let's not break anything. Mike ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 06:46:13 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Joe Russo'" , Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:45:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Brake adjusters At the race barn, I've torn apart a whole bunch of roadster rear axles and brakes. The adjusters always seem to be caked with some kind of grease that turns to a solid with age. That and the POs must have thought the proper way to adjust the brakes was to crank them in until they bottomed out, instead of replacing the brake shoes. I have broken a few and tossed a fem in the scrape pile that were hopelessly mangled from over tightening, but most can be saved with a good soaking in solvent and then cleaned. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Joe Russo I 2nd others on the list that have encourage cleaning up the adjustor. It's really quite simple to remove the brake adjuster - two 7/16" nuts on the later models. It's so much easier to work on the thing on the bench. I have cleaned these up on all my cars and some were stuck hard. It took PB blaster and heat to free. I would never be able to move the adjustor in the manner it was intended while on the car. The adjustor pistons were stuck in the body and leverage just doesn't do it. Had to run them on wire wheel to clean 'em up - but they will be good as new when you are finished. Joe ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 07:17:11 2009 From: Tim To: 'Joe Russo' , Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 6:16:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake adjusters If the PB Blaster does not lossen the first one up--which is probably won't, I think what I will do is take a couple adjusters from the part cars, clean them up and then just swap them into the 2000. This will minimize down time for the car. Thanks again to all who offered advise! Tim ---- Paul <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: ============= At the race barn, I've torn apart a whole bunch of roadster rear axles and brakes. The adjusters always seem to be caked with some kind of grease that turns to a solid with age. That and the POs must have thought the proper way to adjust the brakes was to crank them in until they bottomed out, instead of replacing the brake shoes. I have broken a few and tossed a fem in the scrape pile that were hopelessly mangled from over tightening, but most can be saved with a good soaking in solvent and then cleaned. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Joe Russo I 2nd others on the list that have encourage cleaning up the adjustor. It's really quite simple to remove the brake adjuster - two 7/16" nuts on the later models. It's so much easier to work on the thing on the bench. I have cleaned these up on all my cars and some were stuck hard. It took PB blaster and heat to free. I would never be able to move the adjustor in the manner it was intended while on the car. The adjustor pistons were stuck in the body and leverage just doesn't do it. Had to run them on wire wheel to clean 'em up - but they will be good as new when you are finished. Joe You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 10:21:05 2009 From: "Bubba" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:20:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft If you have to pump the pedal to get a good feel, and that feel stays good until you release the pedal, re-adjust the back brakes and try again. Pumping the pedal compensates for brake shoes that have to travel a ways to engage the drum. Releasing the pedal allows the brakes to return. The rear brakes are released by spring pressure, and this in turn pushes in the wheel cylinder and the extra fluid from pumping returns to the master cylinder, via the compensation port. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender 1972-510 Daisy 1972-510 Spare Change 1993-240SX - NEW TOY, not yet named ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:53 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft >I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at >first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be >pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. > > Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 11:47:17 2009 From: "Bubba" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:42:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft What I have also done to free adjusters, when off the car, is to heat them quite warm with a propane torch, then drop them into a container of cold water. Works for hinge pins too. You're counting on the thermal shock to cause slightly different contraction rates, between the 2 pieces. Once they have cooled to the same temperature, try again. Spraying water doesn't seem to work. I think the water may also get sucked in between the parts and turn to steam,. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "Tim" ; "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft > If you have to pump the pedal to get a good feel, and that feel stays good > until you release the pedal, re-adjust the back brakes and try again. > Pumping the pedal compensates for brake shoes that have to travel a ways > to engage the drum. Releasing the pedal allows the brakes to return. The > rear brakes are released by spring pressure, and this in turn pushes in > the wheel cylinder and the extra fluid from pumping returns to the master > cylinder, via the compensation port. > > Bob Winslade > 1966-1600 Missy > 1967-1600 Bender > 1972-510 Daisy > 1972-510 Spare Change > 1993-240SX - NEW TOY, not yet named > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:53 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Brake pedal still to soft > > >>I just bled the brakes on my 70 2000 again. The pedal seemed better at >>first but once I had the car on the road it was soft and needed to be >>pumped to get a decent feel. I have what look to be new pads on the front. >> >> Do I still have air in the line(s)? Any thing else it might be? >> >> Tim >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 11:47:35 2009 From: Linda J To: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:45:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake adjusters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the webs latest sports videos. Check it out. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 13:31:45 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:26:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint boots Hi gang, the assembly process is finally in high gear, things are going back on the '68 2000 Solex and it's looking really nice. The top ball joints look to be in pretty good shape, but the boots are lousy, can you get just those? I guess I'm kind of "looking with my mouth", as I'm sure they're out there on one of the roadster parts guys sites. Suggestions are welcomed. Here's the weird one, though. I received two brand new lower ball joints with the car, the first one went on great, but then looked at the second one and it doesn't have a hole for the cotter pin. Is that right? Do I need to use a self-locking/nlyon nut? thanks -bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 25 16:48:02 2009 From: "Brian Hollands" To: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:47:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake pedal soft Use a 1/4 inch open end wrench on the rear adjuster. Much better than a crescent. ________________________________ Brian Hollands 69 2000 Tampa, FL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 26 09:32:36 2009 From: chalsted@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] L320 PU for sale in Moreno Valley Ca a bit off topic, but noticed this ad on ebay and thought it would be a good deal for someone into these trucks. no reserve, starts at $500, auction ends this evening http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260447731877&viewitem = happy hunting :-) Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 26 10:58:40 2009 From: chalsted@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] items I have on ebay and other parts and cars available I have a few items on ebay including: 27k mile 3.9 rear early top frame ass'y late top frame ass'y 5spd shift plate nice 68 turnsignal assembly nice 8000 rpm tach nice late rearview mirror will be putting a bunch more stuff on hopefully more regularly, I'm 672000 on ebay. not listed yet: buildings full of parts.... fresh set of late style Solexes jetted for aggressive driving fresh set of 40mm Solexes, just the carbs- appropriate to a 1600 NOS late door trim, one each side one NOS front fender spear still in plasticB which has a tear and some scratches on the trim at that point a few full sets of side trim both early and late (used but decent shape) beautiful tall windshield door mirror stem with mounting hardware- as new, mount your own mirror head some NOS sheetmetal a few 67.5 2000's, might let go of #00006 35k mile 66 1600 20k mile 68 1600 not driven since 71 prototype 1500 NY Auto Show car SPL310-00003 68 2000 race roadster with BRE prepared engine fastback hardtop for a low windshield roadster Bob Sharp GT33 76 280Z west coast RL411 nice 66 Volvo 122s Amazon 40 Packard Super 8 Business Coupe 18' twin cockpit fiberglass speedboat that may be a prototype- never seen another like it, 0 returns on a Google Search.B 55mph... more other stuff than you can imagine, drop me a line if you need anything in particular I need to move some parts, have basically been unable to work since early december when I sustained a bad neck injury...then in april I got defibbed 16 timesB the morning after I'd gotten out of the hospital, lucky for me that they'd implanted an ICD earlier in the week or that probably would have been checkout day. all this has put a world of hurt on my finances, would prefer not to lose the house as no way I could move or store all my roadster stuff.... so if you need anything I might have, now would be a great time to contact me. Thanks- Craig ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 26 11:40:55 2009 From: junk4us@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster For Sale I have to sell my 1969 1600 Datsun Roadster. Back problems and a general unwillingness to put more money into it and the inability to do the work myself has forced the sale . I've had it since 2000. It has been kept in my garage most of the time when I'm not driving it. I've probably put less than 10000 miles on it, very few the last five years. Interior is generally good. Upholstery is excellent and has been redone. Needs lock on center console compartment. The fan switch doesn't work, but a secondary switch has been mounted under the dash. Dashboard needs to be redone or covered. Carpet is excellent. Fairly new rag top in excellent condition over an older frame. All lights work. Windshield washer doesn't work. Choke cable has come undone and should be replaced as it doesn't move freely anyway, which is why it came undone in the first place. Boot for the top is in excellent condition. Body is generally good. The body work done right after I purchased it wasn't very good and so there are a few issues of bondo coming loose. Mostly rust free that I can see except for under the driver door a spot about 1 1/2 round has rusted out. Paint looks good from a distance, but is cracking in a few places. Like I said, the job wasn't done very well. All lights are in working order. Bumpers are in average condition for a car this old and could either be made to look better or replaced. Engine runs very well. An electric fan has been added by a previous owner. Transmission is good. Mileage is around 130000. Tires look good, but they are around 10 years old. Plenty of tread on them, but the age may be suspect. One wheel has a stripped bolt. The nut remains tight, and I have the extra bolts that go on the wheel, just never got around to replacing them. There are very slow drips of engine oil and trans axle oil. Not so that you can tell over say a year or so. Would have cost me more to replace the gaskets than I wanted to spend and I can't do the work myself. Now the price: $3000 firm. You can drive it home if it will start with the broken choke cable. Probably would take two people, one cranking the engine and the other under the hood operating the choke. Once it warms up, no problem driving. I haven't had it on any long trips of over 50 miles in the last couple of years, but it seems to do fine. I have just registered it so the registration is good until next August, I believe. I have lots of paperwork from the previous owner. E-mail me if you want pics, and I know you do. You can call 530-674-3451for any other questions. I live in Yuba City, CA which is about 45 minutes north of Sacramento. John Friedman ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 26 12:13:46 2009 From: Linda J To: , Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:44:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] items I have on ebay and other parts and cars _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 26 12:14:06 2009 From: Linda J To: , Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:49:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster For Sale _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 26 14:37:22 2009 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls Okay, so I lost it. I managed to get all the brake bleeder screws loosened on my rescued form the junkyard '66 1600. In cleaning out the calipers with Q-tips, I lost one of the little balls that seals the bleed hole. Now the tough part...where to find another ball? I don't know if the local hardware store would have the correct size, or even what is the correct size. Any leads are much appreciated! vince ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 26 18:05:15 2009 From: "robert k. smith" To: , roadster list Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:55:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls hi vince, ive used little metal balls from old carburator kits, or some times a hard ware store might have something in faucet repair kits. ive used most any size ball that will fit in the hole, but not fall through the bottom of the hole. good luck, bob smith, ohio > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:36:50 -0700 > From: vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls > > Okay, so I lost it. > > I managed to get all the brake bleeder screws loosened on my rescued form the junkyard '66 1600. In cleaning out the calipers with Q-tips, I lost one of the little balls that seals the bleed hole. > > Now the tough part...where to find another ball? I don't know if the local hardware store would have the correct size, or even what is the correct size. > > Any leads are much appreciated! > > vince > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 27 10:06:52 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls ....or just remove the balls and replace the stock bleeder screws with Speed Bleeders. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert k. smith" To: vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com, "roadster list" Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:55:08 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls hi vince, ive used little metal balls from old carburator kits, or some times a hard ware store might have something in faucet repair kits. ive used most any size ball that will fit in the hole, but not fall through the bottom of the hole. good luck, bob smith, ohio > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:36:50 -0700 > From: vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls > > Okay, so I lost it. > > I managed to get all the brake bleeder screws loosened on my rescued form the junkyard '66 1600. In cleaning out the calipers with Q-tips, I lost one of the little balls that seals the bleed hole. > > Now the tough part...where to find another ball? I don't know if the local hardware store would have the correct size, or even what is the correct size. > > Any leads are much appreciated! > > vince > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 27 10:07:44 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:04:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator removal question So, I'm in the middle of doing an alternator swap & it's really tight in this area of the engine compartment to even get a socket onto the alternator thru-bolt, do I need to remove the radiator to do this job? -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 27 10:20:26 2009 From: Eric Gillis To: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:18:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Paging... Shipping out second round of tshirts this week. I got an order from Shasta, but did not get any contact information from Tom Langton (Portland, OR)? I know he was one of the first to make an order with me and I didnt get all the info that I should have. Anyone know of Tom or how I could get his email for contact? Thanks in advance, Eric Gillis _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 27 11:51:10 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:42:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Alternator removal question I pulled the good alternator off my 69 1600 parts car, it was easy as the hood & grill were already off & the radiator came out easy, I was surprised to see the 19 year old coolant still looked green, I would have expected a pool of rusty fluid to come flowing out as the car has sat dormant since 1990. Since this alternator is going into my 68 1600 in the stock location, it does just seem easier to pull the hood, grill & radiator to get to the front of the engine. Looks like an all day project...oh well, it's my day off & the weather is beautiful here in Illinois. If all goes well, I'll celebrate the swap with an evening ride into the Midwest sunset :) -Dave Cooke On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Linda J wrote: > > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:04:28 -0500 > > From: cookefam314@gmail.com > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator removal question > > > > So, I'm in the middle of doing an alternator swap & it's really tight in > > this area of the engine compartment to even get a socket onto the > alternator > > thru-bolt, do I need to remove the radiator to do this job? > > > > -- > > Dave Cooke > > Midwest Roadsters > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@hotmail.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. > > http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 27 13:52:42 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:52:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Alternator removal question No celebration ride tonight, the alternator from my 69 parts car has a bent electrical post on the backside & the threads are stripped. I can't put the old alternator back in as one of the rear wiring posts also snapped off in the removal of the wiring...Oh the joy of 40 year old parts!So, I'm looking for a rebuilt alternator to put in... In the interim, since I have the hood off, I might as well power wash the underside of the hood & paint it black. And the engine bay could use a good cleaning too... -Dave Cooke On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Dave Cooke wrote: > I pulled the good alternator off my 69 1600 parts car, it was easy as the > hood & grill were already off & the radiator came out easy, I was surprised > to see the 19 year old coolant still looked green, I would have expected a > pool of rusty fluid to come flowing out as the car has sat dormant since > 1990. Since this alternator is going into my 68 1600 in the stock location, > it does just seem easier to pull the hood, grill & radiator to get to the > front of the engine. Looks like an all day project...oh well, it's my day > off & the weather is beautiful here in Illinois. If all goes well, I'll > celebrate the swap with an evening ride into the Midwest sunset :) > > -Dave Cooke > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Linda J wrote: > >> >> >> >> > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:04:28 -0500 >> > From: cookefam314@gmail.com >> > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> > Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator removal question >> > >> > So, I'm in the middle of doing an alternator swap & it's really tight in >> > this area of the engine compartment to even get a socket onto the >> alternator >> > thru-bolt, do I need to remove the radiator to do this job? >> > >> > -- >> > Dave Cooke >> > Midwest Roadsters >> > ________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > >> > You are subscribed as ljordan704@hotmail.com >> > >> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> > >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. >> >> http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 > > > > > -- > Dave Cooke > Midwest Roadsters > -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 27 21:36:12 2009 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls Thanks to everyone for their suggestions on the balls. I found a small ball bearing at a hardware store that should work. I use a pressure bleeder, and have never found myself looking for speed bleeders. Money that could be spend on other needed parts... Thanks! vince --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Pete Peters wrote: > From: Pete Peters > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 11:02 AM > ....or just remove the balls and > replace the stock bleeder screws with Speed Bleeders. > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "robert k. smith" > > To: vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com, > "roadster list" > > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:55:08 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada > Pacific > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls > > hi vince, ive used little metal balls from old carburator > kits, or some times > a hard ware store might have something in faucet repair > > kits. ive used most any size ball that will fit in the > hole, but not > > fall through the bottom of the hole. good luck, bob smith, > ohio > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:36:50 -0700 > > From: vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > > Subject: [Roadsters] Brake Bleeder Balls > > > > Okay, so I lost it. > > > > I managed to get all the brake bleeder screws loosened > on my rescued form > the junkyard '66 1600. In cleaning out the calipers with > Q-tips, I lost one of > the little balls that seals the bleed hole. > > > > Now the tough part...where to find another ball? I > don't know if the local > hardware store would have the correct size, or even what is > the correct size. > > > > Any leads are much appreciated! > > > > vince > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows Live Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your > favorite sports pics. > Check it out. > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL > > _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 27 21:37:19 2009 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Family Roadster Outing--little long Tim, I am probably wrong, but I've seen similar problems caused by lower than needed fuel pressure from a worn out pump, other inline filters needing cleaning, loose old hoses allowing pressure to escape, or unvented fuel tanks building pressure. Let us all know what you find, so we can check it out ourselves. Good luck! vince --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: Family Roadster Outing--little long > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Cc: tputland@charter.net, stebharvey@ameritech.net, jake7140@yahoo.com, bill_wessel@yahoo.com, wilhouse@charter.net, willie.peterson@gmail.com, aultgc@att.net, pete_303@yahoo.com, datsun-67@hotmail.com, stan@indy.net, rtdengr@charter.net, d_kroninger@hotmail.com, johnstdd@sbcglobal.net, lowryjj@sbcglobal.net, vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com, cookefam314@gmail.com, alfanut31952@aol.com, araofmadison@sbcglobal.net, bill@brandnewchef.com > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:46 AM > Some of you may get this twice...my > apologies. > > I finally got my 2000 back on the road last weekend. After > a few small drives in the area around the town I live in, I > decided she was ready to take a longer drive. > > So, with my wife and youngest daughter in the (proven > reliable) 1600 and me and my oldest daughter in the (not > quite trustworthy) 2000, we set out to drive some of the > twisty roads in the Military Ridge area of Southern WI. > > All was fine for about the first 50 miles or so. Then the > 2000 started to stutter and lose power. I pulled off the > road and checked the fuel filter and all the fuel lines. All > seemed fine. The car started right back up and I pulled off. > About a 1/4 mile later the same s**t happened including the > smell of gas. So I pulled off the road and checked the > floats thinking one or both had gas in them. They were > fine--replaced by the PO--but the car would not stay > running. > > A two hour wait later the 2000 was on the flatbed tow truck > for the trip home. > > > I will drain all the oldish gas out and put a new fuel > filter on this weekend. I will also make sure the dashpot > oil levels are correct--they seemed a little low yesterday. > I will also check the fuel pump to make sure it is ok but I > have to assume it is since the car will start up just fine. > > > Aren't the carb pistons supposed to drop slowly after > lifting them by hand through the air intake opening? If they > drop quickly, is this a sign of low dashpot oil? > > What else should I check? > > Sorry for the length of this. > > Thanks > > Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 28 13:02:51 2009 From: Bryce Parker To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters in SW Idaho? I am about to inherit my father's '67 1600 that he bought brand new and I want to start educating myself about restoration. Up until this last year, the car has always run very well, but things are starting to deteriorate. I see that there are a lot of websites out there, just curious if there is anyone in the Boise area that is into these cars and wouldn't mind sharing some knowledge. This car is like my little brother and I want to do things right and restore it to a reliable driver we can take on short trips into the local mountains. Thank you, Bryce ParkerMeridian, ID ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 28 19:48:16 2009 From: Paul Bauman To: Autox Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:42:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] The tale of the leaky carb I had a rear Hitachi that kept blowing gas out the overflow from time to time. I had adjusted the float, but it kept leaking and I knew it needed a new float valve, But they were also getting hard to keep tuned, so when we were at Solvang last April I looked at Z Therapy's handiwork and eventually ordered a pair. To paraphrase Ferris Bueller, 'If you have the means, I highly recommend you pick some up. They are so choice!' Well, a few days before I was going to put them on, I had to be towed home. Turns out I lost a valve in number one cylinder. The booger would not close all the the way because the seat had popped out of the head. So...off to a local machine shop for a valve job. The company I took it to is Valley Engine and Machine in Fountain Valley, CA. Looks like they do good work. I'll recommend them if it holds up. In the meantime I ordered a new head gasket kit from CDM and put the motor back together with my beautiful new carbs and rebuilt head. And it wouldn't start. I cranked it through two battery charges retracing my steps on what I took off the car and made sure everything was back on correctly. Since I hadn't touched the dizzy, I was concentrating on fuel problems, but even starting fluid wouldn't get it to cough, so I hooked up the timing light to number one plug wire and had Pam spin it. No light. The last time this happened I had broken a camshaft. So I took off the distributor cap and had Pam crank it again. To my great relief, the dizzy cam was spinning away, but the points weren't opening and closing! Turns out the plastic follower on the points had broken off. Strange. I didn't do anything to the dizzy except pull the cap and wires to get them out of the way while working on the head. I replaced the points and one turn of the key and she fired right up! A little rattly and rumbly, but it runs! I think I'm beginning to understand why I dislike working on SU carbs. Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 (running) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 28 22:48:13 2009 From: Paul Bauman To: Autox Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:41:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The tale of the leaky carb Tom: It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess they just have to buy a roadster to understand. The mechanical dizzy has never really failed me. I did run into the wire shorting thing back in the 70s, and the points collapsed once when a Datsun dealership changed them during a tuneup and left one of the mounting screws loose. The shorting wire only caused one cylinder to miss and I was able to regap the points with a discarded pop-top I found alongside the road. Now I have to lug around feeler gauges, darn it. Those were the days. Paul On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 20:25 -0700, Tom Hendricksen wrote: > I had problems with my points on the way down to Shasta, pulling off of the > freeway twice to check the problem out before I found the point lead wire > shorting to the dizzy case. With something like your "means" quote running > through my head I contacted Dave Brisco and a new dizzy is somewhere between > his home and mine. > > Mr. Hyde has been apart ever since Shasta. I am installing a Mercedes Benz > pusher fan that fits between the radiator mounts and the radiator core > without modifying the mounting bars. Then I spotted a radiator leak, and > now I am waiting for the radiator to come home to be reinstalled. Last I > grabbed the water pump pully just because... And it moved. Another water > pump is now in that spot. > > Last I will reinstall the heater control valve now that I have figured out > how to rebuild it and keep it from leaking air from the wrong places under > water. Once the dizzy is installed I hope we are done for the summer, and > in time for the BBQ at Bill & Karen Neil's in Shed, Oregon. > > Who knows, maybe it will cool down from the 105 - 107 degree range and I can > drive the roadster again when I get him all back together. Isn't this > Oregon???? > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 29 07:35:43 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: Paul Bauman Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:34:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The tale of the leaky carb Paul, Once you go to Brisco's electronic dizzy, you'll never go back to points again. Love mine, one less thing to worry about on this 41 year old machine. -Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Paul Bauman wrote: > Tom: > > It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top > down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess > they just have to buy a roadster to understand. > > The mechanical dizzy has never really failed me. I did run into the wire > shorting thing back in the 70s, and the points collapsed once when a > Datsun dealership changed them during a tuneup and left one of the > mounting screws loose. The shorting wire only caused one cylinder to > miss and I was able to regap the points with a discarded pop-top I found > alongside the road. Now I have to lug around feeler gauges, darn it. > Those were the days. > > Paul > > > On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 20:25 -0700, Tom Hendricksen wrote: > > I had problems with my points on the way down to Shasta, pulling off of > the > > freeway twice to check the problem out before I found the point lead wire > > shorting to the dizzy case. With something like your "means" quote > running > > through my head I contacted Dave Brisco and a new dizzy is somewhere > between > > his home and mine. > > > > Mr. Hyde has been apart ever since Shasta. I am installing a Mercedes > Benz > > pusher fan that fits between the radiator mounts and the radiator core > > without modifying the mounting bars. Then I spotted a radiator leak, and > > now I am waiting for the radiator to come home to be reinstalled. Last I > > grabbed the water pump pully just because... And it moved. Another water > > pump is now in that spot. > > > > Last I will reinstall the heater control valve now that I have figured > out > > how to rebuild it and keep it from leaking air from the wrong places > under > > water. Once the dizzy is installed I hope we are done for the summer, > and > > in time for the BBQ at Bill & Karen Neil's in Shed, Oregon. > > > > Who knows, maybe it will cool down from the 105 - 107 degree range and I > can > > drive the roadster again when I get him all back together. Isn't this > > Oregon???? > > > > Tom > > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > > Portland > > http://www.datsun2000.com > > http://www.nowroc.org > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cookefam314@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 29 08:47:31 2009 From: Gary McCormick To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Great automotive photo site I just stumbled a cross a great Tumblr blog site with tons of automotive photos. Only a few Datsun photos (and he has one in the wrong year), but great stuff for general automotive interest: http://hotwheels.tumblr.com/ Gary McCormick '70 2000 SRL311-13294 San Jose, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 29 09:19:27 2009 From: junk4us@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster For Sale It was in the last couple of sentences. Yuba City, CA which is about 45 miles north of Sacramento. Phone 530-674-3451. I forgot to mention that the radio does not work, but an under dash CD player is installed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Peterson" To: junk4us@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:30:04 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Roadster For Sale Not that I need a car, but where is it? (Post it to the list) Thank you, Walter Peterson Santa Barbara Ca, 93109 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 29 09:33:34 2009 From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:26:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster For Sale Actually it is in Tierra Buena, CA which is a "suburb" of Yuba City. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- junk4us@comcast.net wrote: ============= It was in the last couple of sentences. Yuba City, CA which is about 45 miles north of Sacramento. Phone 530-674-3451. I forgot to mention that the radio does not work, but an under dash CD player is installed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Peterson" To: junk4us@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:30:04 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Roadster For Sale Not that I need a car, but where is it? (Post it to the list) Thank you, Walter Peterson Santa Barbara Ca, 93109 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 29 11:22:43 2009 From: RWM To: Autox Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:21:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The tale of the leaky carb /eNeHUx: Permission denied ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 29 11:38:19 2009 From: RWM To: Autox Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:37:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The tale of the leaky carb Or the Gary Boone version, for that matter. Best upgrade ever on a cost-effectiveness-reliability basis (IMHO). - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex w/ Gary Boone e-Distributor Dave Cooke wrote: > Paul, Once you go to Brisco's electronic dizzy, you'll never go back to > points again. Love mine, one less thing to worry about on this 41 year old > machine. > > -Dave Cooke > Midwest Roadsters > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Paul Bauman wrote: > > >> Tom: >> >> It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top >> down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess >> they just have to buy a roadster to understand. >> >> The mechanical dizzy has never really failed me. I did run into the wire >> shorting thing back in the 70s, and the points collapsed once when a >> Datsun dealership changed them during a tuneup and left one of the >> mounting screws loose. The shorting wire only caused one cylinder to >> miss and I was able to regap the points with a discarded pop-top I found >> alongside the road. Now I have to lug around feeler gauges, darn it. >> Those were the days. >> >> Paul >> >> >> On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 20:25 -0700, Tom Hendricksen wrote: >> >>> I had problems with my points on the way down to Shasta, pulling off of >>> >> the >> >>> freeway twice to check the problem out before I found the point lead wire >>> shorting to the dizzy case. With something like your "means" quote >>> >> running >> >>> through my head I contacted Dave Brisco and a new dizzy is somewhere >>> >> between >> >>> his home and mine. >>> >>> Mr. Hyde has been apart ever since Shasta. I am installing a Mercedes >>> >> Benz >> >>> pusher fan that fits between the radiator mounts and the radiator core >>> without modifying the mounting bars. Then I spotted a radiator leak, and >>> now I am waiting for the radiator to come home to be reinstalled. Last I >>> grabbed the water pump pully just because... And it moved. Another water >>> pump is now in that spot. >>> >>> Last I will reinstall the heater control valve now that I have figured >>> >> out >> >>> how to rebuild it and keep it from leaking air from the wrong places >>> >> under >> >>> water. Once the dizzy is installed I hope we are done for the summer, >>> >> and >> >>> in time for the BBQ at Bill & Karen Neil's in Shed, Oregon. >>> >>> Who knows, maybe it will cool down from the 105 - 107 degree range and I >>> >> can >> >>> drive the roadster again when I get him all back together. Isn't this >>> Oregon???? >>> >>> Tom >>> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >>> Portland >>> http://www.datsun2000.com >>> http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 29 12:09:34 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Power steering Howdy race fans. I am going to add power steering to my race car. It seems the easiest way to do it is to bolt in a power steering box. I just don't know if there is a power box out there that will bolt in easily. I cna make brackets and even do some cutting on the frame. The tricky part is to get the pitman shaft with the correct splines for the pitman arm and also getting the location of the pitman arm exactly the same as the stock unit. Another idea I had was to replace the center (drag) link with a power rack and pinion. I would then replace the steering box with a RHD idler assembly. To do this I would need to verify that a RHD idler assembly will fit a LHD car and then find one cheap. Has anyone added power steering to their roadster other than cutting out the cross member and mounting a rack? Thanks, Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 30 14:03:52 2009 From: LEONARD WORTHY To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:56:13 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Help with 67.5 wiper assembly Hi all, I have a 67.5 SPL which I am attempting to get inspected & licensed so I can actually drive it this summer. The issue perplexing me lately is the wiper motor assembly. When turned on, the passenger wiper moves the same direction as the drivers (ala 68-70) not in the opposite direction as it should on a 65 - 67.5. There were no wipers installed on the car when I purchased it, so you can imagine my surprise when I installed wipers, turned them on & the passenger side ground down into the paint (ouch and a few other choice words). Any ways, upon inspection of the motor assembly, I see no cam or 2nd arm to reverse the direction of the passenger side wiper. I suspect the previous owner may have installed a set-up off a later model. Could someone possibly describe what should be there, or even better pics of the assembly? Note: The parts manual on 311.org only shows the motor & arms from the back. Cheers Len. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 30 15:06:24 2009 From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:05:13 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] headlight relay I know there's a lot of people that don't like the look of the "new style" replacement headlight relay (a lot of people say they prefer the old cad-plated case). Has anyone looked into putting a modern relay into the old style case? Tim 67.5 1600 slowest resto ever ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 30 15:19:21 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlight relay It's been done with the turn signal indicator, but I don't think the newer style relay will fit inside the old relay case. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Waltz" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:05:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] headlight relay I know there's a lot of people that don't like the look of the "new style" replacement headlight relay (a lot of people say they prefer the old cad-plated case). Has anyone looked into putting a modern relay into the old style case? Tim 67.5 1600 slowest resto ever ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 30 15:49:34 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Tim Waltz , 'Datsun Roadster List' Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:43:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlight relay Many of us are also upgrading to higher output lights and running a new fused feed direct from the battery, requiring additional relay(s). More info: http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.HeadlightTech http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.HeadlightRelayWiring http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.HeadlightWiringTech Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:05 PM Subject: [Roadsters] headlight relay >I know there's a lot of people that don't like the look of the "new style" > replacement headlight relay (a lot of people say they prefer the old > cad-plated case). > > > > Has anyone looked into putting a modern relay into the old style case? > > > > Tim > > 67.5 1600 slowest resto ever > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as drlsmith@dccnet.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 30 16:18:55 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlight relay The only folks doing that are the ones that want brighter lights. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Tim Waltz" , "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:43:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlight relay Many of us are also upgrading to higher output lights and running a new fused feed direct from the battery, requiring additional relay(s). More info: http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.HeadlightTech http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.HeadlightRelayWiring http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.HeadlightWiringTech Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Waltz" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:05 PM Subject: [Roadsters] headlight relay >I know there's a lot of people that don't like the look of the "new style" > replacement headlight relay (a lot of people say they prefer the old > cad-plated case). > > > > Has anyone looked into putting a modern relay into the old style case? > > > > Tim > > 67.5 1600 slowest resto ever > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as drlsmith@dccnet.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 30 21:03:49 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Datsun Roadsters Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:00:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] bondo surprise Finally got around to doing body work on Blondie, my 70 1600 daily driver. Sitting outside in San Francisco fog weather for 10 years took it's toll. A section of the passenger rear quarter panel was rotting away, along with the trunk lid. Before I bought it 11 years ago, it apparently was in an accident and a body shop "repaired" the damage by overlapping and welding together pieces of donor metal, covered by plastic bondo. After I bought it, I did some superficial cleanup and painted the car yellow. A couple years ago the bondo cracked, let water in, and the metal rotted and started caving in. Then i saw the lousy job some repair shop had done, overlapping metal with deep gaps and covering with thick layers of bondo. Rather than pound out dents, they covered them with bondo. Because the lower half looked okay, I decided to replace the only top half of the quarter panel and the trunk lid from a donor car . I cut off the top half quarter panel. Then decided to fix the trunk well behind the wheel inner fender, as there were some holes there. It looked like just a small piece of new metal should do it. As I started sanding away the paint from the lower fender behind the wheel well, I ran into bondo. Lots of it, from a 1/8 to 1/4 inch thick. And lots of rotted metal. There were stitch weld spots all over, tying together multiple pieces of metal. Grrr! Like swiss cheese, rusty holy metal held together by tons of bondo. In hindsight, I should have planned on replacing the entire quarter panel, not just the top half. But I'll create patch pieces and make do. But I'm not going to put tons of bondo on; I'll repair with metal only as much as possible. I hate bondo! Fred - So.SF 70 1600 "Blondie" 66 2L "Loosie" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 30 21:36:37 2009 From: Toby B To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:36:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 "Tom: It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess they just have to buy a roadster to understand." Actually, I find it to be more like a CONVECTION oven, seeing as we have been having unseasonally absurd temperatures... heh Toby Seattle. Never saw over 100f. Ever. Until yesterday. When it was 103. I kind of liked it... kinda. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 30 22:48:24 2009 From: To: Toby B , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 0:44:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 Last summer I decided to drive rather than fly from SC to TX when I had a three week business trip. I take the roadster everywhere I can and enjoy driving it on trips. A couple of years earlier I did the coast to coast trip when I purchased it but that was late winter, early spring so hot temps did not come into play. The drive to TX was in the middle of the summer with record breaking highs. It was so hot I had to run the heater every once in a while to keep the engine temp. down. Needless to say the two day trip resulted in about 10 lbs. of weight loss from sitting in the "sauna". When I checked into the hotel they thought I was a mime I was completely white covered with sun screen. David 66 1600 ---- Toby B wrote: > "Tom: > > It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top > down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess > they just have to buy a roadster to understand." > > Actually, I find it to be more like a CONVECTION oven, > seeing as we have been having unseasonally absurd temperatures... > > heh > > Toby > Seattle. Never saw over 100f. Ever. Until yesterday. When it was 103. > I kind of liked it... kinda. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as datsundawg@sc.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 05:55:38 2009 From: Mike Harper To: Toby B , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 I can personally attest to the fact that David is "not right" as evidenced by his post. I would bet he has gotten more "fun per dollar" from his '66 "bomb" than anyone on the list. A $1000 Roadster that I would not have wagered would make it to the hotel from his purchase, much less across the US and daily driven for nearly 4 years. These are amazing cars - even when held together by duct tape... Mike Harper, CAI, AARE "Experience Sells" '66 1600 --- On Fri, 7/31/09, datsundawg@sc.rr.com wrote: > From: datsundawg@sc.rr.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 > To: "Toby B" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 12:44 AM > Last summer I decided to drive rather > than fly from SC to TX when I had a three week business > trip. I take the roadster everywhere I can and enjoy driving > it on trips. A couple of years earlier I did the coast > to coast trip when I purchased it but that was late winter, > early spring so hot temps did not come into play. The > drive to TX was in the middle of the summer with record > breaking highs. It was so hot I had to run the heater every > once in a while to keep the engine temp. down. > Needless to say the two day trip resulted in about 10 lbs. > of weight loss from sitting in the "sauna". When I > checked into the hotel they thought I was a mime I was > completely white covered with sun screen. > > David > 66 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 07:06:12 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:05:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 > Toby B wrote: > > It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top > down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess > they just have to buy a roadster to understand." > > Actually, I find it to be more like a CONVECTION oven, > seeing as we have been having unseasonally absurd temperatures... > > heh > > Toby > Seattle. B Never saw over 100f. B Ever. B Until yesterday. B When it was 103. > I kind of liked it... kinda. We're in the middle of what may turn out to be the hottest summer on record here in central Texas. So many 100 plus days I've lost count and we're just now getting into the "traditionally" hot part of the summer, plus we're building a house. It's often said that if you don't like Texas weather, wait a minute. We've been "waiting" for two months and we're ready for it to change, but the way things are going it'll just get hotter! :>) -- Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 07:24:10 2009 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:23:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 In Denver we typically have our share of 100 degree days in the summer.? It's not bad since our heat is accompanied by low humidity.? What I don't care for is that while you Pacific Northwesters are enjoying our 100 degree heat you sent your rain to us.?haha? ?We have had record setting rains in Denver this summer.? It is the 3rd wettest summer in history.? We've had rain for weeks, not to mention hale, tornados, etc.? At least we can still get the Roadsters out once in a while.? WYCROC is having its 10th Anniversary run a week from tomorrow.? I hope the weather Gods cooperate. Enjoy it while it lasts.? John Over Denver 68 2000 67 2000 71 240 71 510 4 door for sale -----Original Message----- From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 7:05 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 > Toby B wrote: > > It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top > down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess > they just have to buy a roadster to understand." > > Actually, I find it to be more like a CONVECTION oven, > seeing as we have been having unseasonally absurd temperatures... > > heh > > Toby > Seattle. B Never saw over 100f. B Ever. B Until yesterday. B When it was 103. > I kind of liked it... kinda. We're in the middle of what may turn out to be the hottest summer on record here in central Texas. So many 100 plus days I've lost count and we're just now getting into the "traditionally" hot part of the summer, plus we're building a house. It's often said that if you don't like Texas weather, wait a minute. We've been "waiting" for two months and we're ready for it to change, but the way things are going it'll just get hotter! :>) -- Ron You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 07:49:06 2009 From: Richard Schnoor To: Fred Katz Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:47:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] bondo surprise I agree bondo sucks.Although I've been told that the "new" generation of bondo doesn't absorb water by body people. But seeing that It's still made out of the same stuff (polyester resin & sawdust) as the bondo I had used 25 years ago I think that all they are trying to do is allay my fears until the check clears. Due to my hatred for bondo I migrated to epoxy mixed with glass micro spheres which is harder to work & more expensive but I do have areas of my roadsters where the paint has peeled away & the epoxy is still there with no bubbling or rusting below it after 25 years outside in humid Florida. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Fred Katz wrote: > Finally got around to doing body work on Blondie, my 70 1600 daily driver. > Sitting outside in San Francisco fog weather for 10 years took it's toll. > > A section of the passenger rear quarter panel was rotting away, along with > the trunk lid. Before I bought it 11 years ago, it apparently was in an > accident and a body shop "repaired" the damage by overlapping and welding > together pieces of donor metal, covered by plastic bondo. After I bought it, > I did some superficial cleanup and painted the car yellow. A couple years > ago the bondo cracked, let water in, and the metal rotted and started caving > in. Then i saw the lousy job some repair shop had done, overlapping metal > with deep gaps and covering with thick layers of bondo. Rather than pound > out dents, they covered them with bondo. > > Because the lower half looked okay, I decided to replace the only top half > of the quarter panel and the trunk lid from a donor car . I cut off the top > half quarter panel. Then decided to fix the trunk well behind the wheel > inner fender, as there were some holes there. It looked like just a small > piece of new metal should do it. As I started sanding away the paint from > the lower fender behind the wheel well, I ran into bondo. Lots of it, from a > 1/8 to 1/4 inch thick. And lots of rotted metal. There were stitch weld > spots all over, tying together multiple pieces of metal. Grrr! Like swiss > cheese, rusty holy metal held together by tons of bondo. > > In hindsight, I should have planned on replacing the entire quarter panel, > not just the top half. But I'll create patch pieces and make do. But I'm not > going to put tons of bondo on; I'll repair with metal only as much as > possible. I hate bondo! > > Fred - So.SF > 70 1600 "Blondie" > 66 2L "Loosie" > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as machworx@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Richard Schnoor P.E. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 08:36:01 2009 From: "oliver" To: "Roadster List" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:35:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 just to show you how variable Texas is the north central area (Dallas/Fort Worth) is having a pleasant, mild summer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Day" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 >> Toby B wrote: >> >> It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top >> down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess >> they just have to buy a roadster to understand." >> >> Actually, I find it to be more like a CONVECTION oven, >> seeing as we have been having unseasonally absurd temperatures... >> >> heh >> >> Toby >> Seattle. B Never saw over 100f. B Ever. B Until yesterday. B When it was > 103. >> I kind of liked it... kinda. > > We're in the middle of what may turn out to be the hottest summer on > record here in central Texas. So many 100 plus days I've lost count > and we're just now getting into the "traditionally" hot part of the > summer, plus we're building a house. > > It's often said that if you don't like Texas weather, wait a minute. > We've been "waiting" for two months and we're ready for it to change, > but the way things are going it'll just get hotter! :>) > > -- > Ron > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as sumton@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 08:40:11 2009 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)" To: oliver , Roadster List Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:39:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 Here in North Alabama we have had 100 year record lows broken. Downright cool a couple of weeks ago. Now we are normal - muggy and rainy.... Phil Hall NASA/MSFC/ED10 Systems Engineering work : 256-544-2525 cell: 256-975-6385 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:35 AM To: Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 just to show you how variable Texas is the north central area (Dallas/Fort Worth) is having a pleasant, mild summer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Day" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 >> Toby B wrote: >> >> It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top >> down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess >> they just have to buy a roadster to understand." >> >> Actually, I find it to be more like a CONVECTION oven, >> seeing as we have been having unseasonally absurd temperatures... >> >> heh >> >> Toby >> Seattle. B Never saw over 100f. B Ever. B Until yesterday. B When it was > 103. >> I kind of liked it... kinda. > > We're in the middle of what may turn out to be the hottest summer on > record here in central Texas. So many 100 plus days I've lost count > and we're just now getting into the "traditionally" hot part of the > summer, plus we're building a house. > > It's often said that if you don't like Texas weather, wait a minute. > We've been "waiting" for two months and we're ready for it to change, > but the way things are going it'll just get hotter! :>) > > -- > Ron > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as sumton@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 08:49:11 2009 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: oliver Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:48:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 Here in California... Well what can I say? It's California :o) It's hot but always nice On 7/31/09, oliver wrote: > > just to show you how variable Texas is the north central area (Dallas/Fort > Worth) is having a pleasant, mild summer. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Day" > To: "Roadster List" > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 > > > Toby B wrote: >>> >>> It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the top >>> down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. I guess >>> they just have to buy a roadster to understand." >>> >>> Actually, I find it to be more like a CONVECTION oven, >>> seeing as we have been having unseasonally absurd temperatures... >>> >>> heh >>> >>> Toby >>> Seattle. B Never saw over 100f. B Ever. B Until yesterday. B When it was >>> >> 103. >> >>> I kind of liked it... kinda. >>> >> >> We're in the middle of what may turn out to be the hottest summer on >> record here in central Texas. So many 100 plus days I've lost count >> and we're just now getting into the "traditionally" hot part of the >> summer, plus we're building a house. >> >> It's often said that if you don't like Texas weather, wait a minute. >> We've been "waiting" for two months and we're ready for it to change, >> but the way things are going it'll just get hotter! :>) >> >> -- >> Ron >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as sumton@sbcglobal.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 10:20:49 2009 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) hi everyone i will be running my roadster this weekend at California Speedway in Fontana. I run with NASA, and the event is free for spectators. if you're close by and bored this weekend, stop by and say "Hey!" few roadsters there, but it's still racing and lots of it.... and it's freeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 11:21:01 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:20:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on a 70 1600? Until I replace the filler neck, my extra chrome caps don't fit tight enough to stay on. Is there a way to test a stcok fuel pump that is not on the motor? TIA Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 11:36:09 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:31:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions I put a NAPA Gas Cap on my 70 1600 BK 703-1035 $4.19 It's the type that is used with a door hiding the cap but it was a nice fit and the only one he could find to fit the neck. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:20 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on a 70 1600? Until I replace the filler neck, my extra chrome caps don't fit tight enough to stay on. Is there a way to test a stcok fuel pump that is not on the motor? TIA Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 11:37:29 2009 From: Tim To: SlowBoy , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:37:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions Thanks. NAPA is just about the only place I have not checked. They were on the list for tomorrow morning. Tim ---- SlowBoy wrote: ============= I put a NAPA Gas Cap on my 70 1600 BK 703-1035 $4.19 It's the type that is used with a door hiding the cap but it was a nice fit and the only one he could find to fit the neck. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:20 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on a 70 1600? Until I replace the filler neck, my extra chrome caps don't fit tight enough to stay on. Is there a way to test a stcok fuel pump that is not on the motor? TIA Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 13:54:16 2009 From: Toby B To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:42:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 306 If you do a workmanlike job with the metal, there's no harm in a thin coat of filler. But make SURE it's sealed on the back side- one pinhole and moisture will ruin your work. I use seam- sealer over all my welds, and usually use 2 coats out of sheer paranoia. But the door that I replaced the bottom 4 inches of (in 1993) has held up fine... and it was a 'well, we'll see if this works, and replace it if it doesn't' sort of job... Toby Seattle >In hindsight, I should have planned on replacing the entire quarter panel, >not just the top half. But I'll create patch pieces and make do. But I'm not >going to put tons of bondo on; I'll repair with metal only as much as possible. I hate bondo! >Fred - So.SF ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 15:09:26 2009 From: "oliver" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:59:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DatsunFuelCap.jpg will fit a low windshield car. anyone - is that the same as the later cars??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions > Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on a 70 1600? Until I > replace the filler neck, my extra chrome caps don't fit tight enough to > stay on. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 15:40:14 2009 From: Pat Horne To: oliver Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:26:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions As I recall all 1600's and 2L's are the same except for 1970 cars, they use a sealed gas cap with the vent in the vapor recovery system rather than in the cap as the earlier ones do. I can't swear for the 69 models though. Peace, Pat Thusly spake oliver, On 7/31/2009 3:59 PM: > http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DatsunFuelCap.jpg will fit a > low windshield car. > > anyone - is that the same as the later cars??? > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:20 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions > > >> Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on a 70 1600? >> Until I replace the filler neck, my extra chrome caps don't fit tight >> enough to stay on. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 15:40:31 2009 From: Mike Harper To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions There should be no didderence in early and late gas caps. Mike Harper, --- On Fri, 7/31/09, oliver wrote: > From: oliver > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 4:59 PM > http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DatsunFuelCap.jpg > will fit a low windshield car. > > anyone - is that the same as the later cars??? > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:20 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions > > > > Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on > a 70 1600? Until I replace the filler neck, my extra chrome > caps don't fit tight enough to stay on. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 16:10:43 2009 From: "Joe Russo" To: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:04:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 We are still waiting for summer here in upstate NY. It rains almost every day. Tornado last weekend. We don't have tornados in NY (we pay too much tax to have tornados). We have just a few 80 degree days...roadster are waiting...every time I have taken them out, they have been rained on...it's not so bad if you can drive at speed but the stop lights are not much fun. Worst part is once October arrives, snow is a real possibility.... A short driving season this year for sure. Joe In Denver we typically have our share of 100 degree days in the summer.? It's not bad since our heat is accompanied by low humidity.? What I don't care for is that while you Pacific Northwesters are enjoying our 100 degree heat you sent your rain to us.?haha? ?We have had record setting rains in Denver this summer.? It is the 3rd wettest summer in history.? We've had rain for weeks, not to mention hale, tornados, etc.? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 16:24:25 2009 From: "barterdude" To: , "'datsun-roadsters: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:16:18 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions Didn't see any discussion as to if anyone knew of locking gas caps sources? Cheers -- Gary Lasater -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Harper Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:31 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net; oliver Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions There should be no didderence in early and late gas caps. Mike Harper, --- On Fri, 7/31/09, oliver wrote: > From: oliver > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 4:59 PM > http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DatsunFuelCap.jpg > will fit a low windshield car. > > anyone - is that the same as the later cars??? > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:20 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions > > > > Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on > a 70 1600? Until I replace the filler neck, my extra chrome > caps don't fit tight enough to stay on. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.36/2272 - Release Date: 07/31/09 05:58:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 21:15:46 2009 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:59:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions When I reply to the list my posting shows a question mark after every sentence.? Why is that?? I am not really that illiterate. John Over -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 11:20 am Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on a 70 1600? Until I replace the filler neck, my extra chrome caps don't fit tight enough to stay on. Is there a way to test a stcok fuel pump that is not on the motor? TIA Tim You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 22:12:07 2009 From: tminerpcav@aol.com To: jover4x4@aol.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:58:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions John? I had that problem before? I don't know why it happened, but luckily I got rid of it? Tim Miner? -----Original Message----- From: jover4x4@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 7:59 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions When I reply to the list my posting shows a question mark after every sentence.? Why is that?? I am not really that illiterate. John Over -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 11:20 am Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on a 70 1600? Until I replace the filler neck, my extra chrome caps don't fit tight enough to stay on. Is there a way to test a stcok fuel pump that is not on the motor? TIA Tim You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tminerpcav@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 22:26:33 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Datsun Roadsters Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:16:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] bondo surprise In the early 1970s I flared the fender wells on my 68 2000. I laid down epoxy with fiberglass sheets, and bondo on top of the epoxy. 30 years later I pulled off the bondo and epoxy and the metal is as clean as when I coated it with the epoxy. Fred - So.SF On Jul 31, 2009, at 6:47 AM, Richard Schnoor wrote: > I agree bondo sucks.Although I've been told that the "new" > generation of bondo doesn't absorb water by body people. But seeing > that It's still made out of the same stuff (polyester resin & > sawdust) as the bondo I had used 25 years ago I think that all they > are trying to do is allay my fears until the check clears. Due to my > hatred for bondo I migrated to epoxy mixed with glass micro spheres > which is harder to work & more expensive but I do have areas of my > roadsters where the paint has peeled away & the epoxy is still there > with no bubbling or rusting below it after 25 years outside in humid > Florida. > > -- > Richard Schnoor P.E. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 22:26:49 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Chris & Christy Breyer Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:20:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 Not in this part of California - San Francisco peninsula. It's been cold and overcast the last two weeks - feels like winter weather. There were a few drizzly days this past week that felt like rain, lots of wet stuff. Been making it hard on me doing body work outside in the driveway. Fred - So.SF On Jul 31, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Chris & Christy Breyer wrote: > Here in California... Well what can I say? It's California :o) > > It's hot but always nice > > > > > > On 7/31/09, oliver wrote: >> >> just to show you how variable Texas is the north central area >> (Dallas/Fort >> Worth) is having a pleasant, mild summer. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Day" >> >> To: "Roadster List" >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:05 AM >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 >> >> >> Toby B wrote: >>>> >>>> It is hard to explain to some people that driving around with the >>>> top >>>> down in 100+ degree weather is like sitting in a microwave oven. >>>> I guess >>>> they just have to buy a roadster to understand." >>>> >>>> Actually, I find it to be more like a CONVECTION oven, >>>> seeing as we have been having unseasonally absurd temperatures... >>>> >>>> heh >>>> >>>> Toby >>>> Seattle. B Never saw over 100f. B Ever. B Until yesterday. B When >>>> it was >>>> >>> 103. >>> >>>> I kind of liked it... kinda. >>>> >>> >>> We're in the middle of what may turn out to be the hottest summer on >>> record here in central Texas. So many 100 plus days I've lost count >>> and we're just now getting into the "traditionally" hot part of the >>> summer, plus we're building a house. >>> >>> It's often said that if you don't like Texas weather, wait a minute. >>> We've been "waiting" for two months and we're ready for it to >>> change, >>> but the way things are going it'll just get hotter! :>) >>> >>> -- >>> Ron >>> ________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as sumton@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >>> >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > > > > -- > '66 1600 > Riverside, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 22:27:48 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:24:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] What's the proper way to fill the cooling system on a So I replace my alternator today & when I put the radiator back in, I filled the cooling system with coolant via the filler cap, I ran the engine to temp & continued to fill until full. I also made sure the overflow resevoir was topped off. Is this the correct way to do this? When I turned off the engine it sounded like coolant was gurgling, I assume there could be air in the system. How do I burp the air out? -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 22:42:45 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Toby B Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] bondo surprise I'm using Aluminized Bloxide on the metal surfaces before welding, supposed to protect against rust. The inside welds are covered with seam sealer, then self-etching primer and rust-converter elsewhere as needed. Also will be using non-lead body solder on the outside as needed. Fred - So.SF On Jul 31, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Toby B wrote: > If you do a workmanlike job with the metal, > there's no harm in a thin coat of filler. > But make SURE it's sealed on the back side- one pinhole > and moisture will ruin your work. I use seam- sealer over > all my welds, and usually use 2 coats out of sheer paranoia. > > But the door that I replaced the bottom 4 inches of (in 1993) has held > up fine... and it was a 'well, we'll see if this works, and replace it > if it doesn't' > sort of job... > > Toby > Seattle > >> In hindsight, I should have planned on replacing the entire quarter >> panel, >> not just the top half. But I'll create patch pieces and make do. >> But I'm not >> going to put tons of bondo on; I'll repair with metal only as much >> as possible. I hate bondo! > >> Fred - So.SF ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 22:56:58 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Dave Cooke Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:44:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's the proper way to fill the cooling system on Burp the air out by running the car hard around mountain twisties! Just kidding! I would think the overflow reservoir needs some air space on top to allow excess coolant to flow in, without spilling it out of the reservoir. You probably mean you're topping off at a normal point well below the cap. I would think the radiator would push the air out and then pull coolant in as it cools, over a couple days it should be free of air. Something else going on? Fred On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:24 PM, Dave Cooke wrote: > So I replace my alternator today & when I put the radiator back in, > I filled > the cooling system with coolant via the filler cap, I ran the engine > to temp > & continued to fill until full. I also made sure the overflow > resevoir was > topped off. Is this the correct way to do this? When I turned off > the engine > it sounded like coolant was gurgling, I assume there could be air in > the > system. How do I burp the air out? > > -- > Dave Cooke > Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 23:41:35 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Dave Cooke" , Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:40:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What's the proper way to fill the cooling system on Dave, The overflow reservoir should be no more than half-full. "Overflow" is a misnomer -- it's an expansion tank which allows the coolant in the cooling system to expand as it heats up, and contract as it cools down, without losing any. Since Nissan did not provide a high-point vent in roadster cooling systems, you need to do it the tedious way. You should have a solid cap on the top of the thermostat housing , on the cylinder head of your 1600, and the one with the push button on the top of the expansion tank. After refilling an empty system, I repeatedly squeeze the return hose between the head and the radiator, to work the air out of the system. That doesn't get it all, however, because air gets trapped in the cooling passages of the cylinder head on the engine side of the thermostat. There's only a very small hole in the t-stat, so I leave the solid cap loose as I run the motor, and that helps work more air out. When the coolant starts to heat up, the thermostat will start to open, but the coolant will start to expand out of the opening at that point, so you'll need to replace the cap at that point. And, you may need to add coolant after running the engine for a while. Always add coolant at the radiator/head, and only add to the expansion tank if it gets very low. Hope that helps. Gary (219) 322-1923 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Cooke" To: Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: [Roadsters] What's the proper way to fill the cooling system on a68 1600? > So I replace my alternator today & when I put the radiator back in, I > filled > the cooling system with coolant via the filler cap, I ran the engine to > temp > & continued to fill until full. I also made sure the overflow resevoir was > topped off. Is this the correct way to do this? When I turned off the > engine > it sounded like coolant was gurgling, I assume there could be air in the > system. How do I burp the air out? > > -- > Dave Cooke > Midwest Roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 23:56:46 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:42:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions Mike, Nissan lists five different fuel caps for the roadster, and two different filler tubes. The essential difference is the later caps and filler tubes were for cars with evaporative emissions control and were sealed. The caps for the earlier cars were vented. Other differences were cosmetic. Rallye shows one cap for vented tanks and two for non-vented tanks, with the only difference between the two sealed caps being the finish. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Harper" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" ; "oliver" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions > There should be no didderence in early and late gas caps. > > Mike Harper, > > --- On Fri, 7/31/09, oliver wrote: > >> From: oliver >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions >> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 4:59 PM >> http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DatsunFuelCap.jpg >> will fit a low windshield car. >> >> anyone - is that the same as the later cars??? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" >> To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:20 PM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions >> >> >> > Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on >> a 70 1600? Until I replace the filler neck, my extra chrome >> caps don't fit tight enough to stay on. >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 20:12:56 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Composite Fiberglass Leaf Spring Group Buy I have decided to go with a set of composite fiberglass leaf springs from Flex-a-Form. I believe, from what I have read, they should be a good improvement over the stock saggy springs which are in my car at a comparable price. We need 8 sets to make the price break. If you are interested, please send me an email to let me know. So you are fully informed read the following sites, which, I know, are mostly geared to selling the stuff. If you have other relevant sites, especially sites which detail possible problems with the composites, please post them. The more information the better. This is NOT new technology. Composite springs have been used in many vehicles, notably Corvettes since 1984, a number of other GM cars and vans, Volvo 960, and others. I took a ride in a '68 2000 Solex car with the Flex-a-Form composite fiberglass springs and was very impressed. The car had "Mike Young" uprated front springs and the composites were rated at 150 in/lbs, riding on 205/45/16 tires with adjustable shocks. The ride was better than my stock sprung '66 with 185/65/15 tires (nice ride on a road which would rattle your teeth in my car), and the owner was very happy with the cornering performance as well. I don't see a downside yet. Lighter, better response, no sagging......If you've tried the composites on your roadster, please let us know about your experience with them. The thread that started the 'monoleaf' search: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10068&sid=f07cab61bfb5d6ecc020 f29a1cfd6dce 'Monoleaf' vs Standard leaf spring (with a small blurb on composites): http://www.eatonsprings.com/monoleaf.htm MGA/MGB sites: http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/rs202.htm http://www.mgbmga.com/tech/mga10a.htm A 4x4 site (just for info...): http://www.bc4x4.com/inthenews/default.cfm?ID=138 Manufacturers: http://www.flex-a-form.com/products.asp http://www.hypercoils.com/Products/Hyperco-Composite-Leaf-Springs.aspx A letter was sent to Hypercoil - their response was as follows: Reply from Hypercoil: Daryl, First off.thanks for the email and your interest in Hyperco products. I took a look at your links...very cool! You guys certainly have a passion for these cars and they look absolutely great! As for composite leaf springs, unfortunately the manufacturing process for this product requires dedicated tooling / moulds.this makes it highly cost prohibitive on small runs (typical tooling and assembly fixture costs for a specific design is in the $12K to $15K range). We have had customers "adapt" existing designs to their applications. Naturally this works better in some cases than in others. I have included the information below showing the eye to eye, pin to eye etc. specs for the GM Camaro and Chrysler Motorsports leafs. My advice is that you contact a manufacture of steel leafs and give them the dimensions you require and have them produce replacements (it is relatively easy to roll flat steel in the arch / shape you require to produce replacement leafs). I would suggest you contact the folks at Landrum Spring..and speak with Jeff Fuller (800 424 0244) jfuller@mwspring.com. Sorry I cannot be of more help, thanks for the opportunity and once again.....cool cars! 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