From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 05:27:31 2009 From: "Jim Svedise" To: "Datsun Club" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:27:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 304 Well here in Mexico it is high's of 117 with a humidity of 90 so it feel's like 125. That right on the Sea of Cortez and yes it does feel like a convention oven. Jim & Susan 70 2000 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 06:05:17 2009 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: jover4x4@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:57:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions ???? On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:59 PM, wrote: > When I reply to the list my posting shows a question mark after every > sentence.? Why is that?? I am not really that illiterate. > > > John Over > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 11:20 am > Subject: [Roadsters] Two quick questions > > > > Does any one know what gas cap I can go buy to use on a 70 1600? Until I > replace > the filler neck, my extra chrome caps don't fit tight enough to stay on. > > Is there a way to test a stcok fuel pump that is not on the motor? > > TIA > > Tim > You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Roadster, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 06:12:12 2009 From: Mike Harper To: mike@harperauctionandrealty.com, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions My bad! I forgot about the '70 being a closed system with a non-vented cap. Mike Harper --- On Sat, 8/1/09, Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > From: Gary and Cindy Ault > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Two quick questions > To: mike@harperauctionandrealty.com, "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" , "oliver" > Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 1:42 AM > Mike, > > Nissan lists five different fuel caps for the roadster, and > two different > filler tubes. > > The essential difference is the later caps and filler tubes > were for cars > with evaporative emissions control and were sealed. > The caps for the > earlier cars were vented. Other differences were > cosmetic. > > Rallye shows one cap for vented tanks and two for > non-vented tanks, with the > only difference between the two sealed caps being the > finish. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 06:26:45 2009 From: sidney raper To: Regular Roadster List Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:23:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Caps There were variations on the gas caps through the years, but basically there were two versions - the locking and the non-locking. The 70 with the sealed system had the non locking. It had a gas cap that looked like one off of a 70's Ford F100 pickup or an MGB - just a chrome cap. The easy way to tell if you have the 70 filler neck is the vent tube on the inside. If the vent tube points down, then you have the regular neck. If your vent tube points out at 90 degrees from the filler tube, then you have the 70. John, I think that your PC is infected with the Valley Girl virus. It makes everything a question. If the word like starts showing up, it is terminal... Sidney Raper 1964 1500 (still a project.... sigh....) 1967 SRL311 00076 (alive again!) Jacksonville Florida http://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=PID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR_syn c:082009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 06:41:53 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 5:30:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] One quick question left I found the cap at NAPA--thanks Jim for the quick answer. But no one mentioned testing the fuel pump. Can this be done off the car somehow? I don't want to install a pump just to find out it is bad as well. Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 06:57:16 2009 From: Mike Harper To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] One quick question left If the arm of the pump functions well, the only thing that should go "bad" would be the diaphram. Some fuel pumps have a series of screws and can be disassembled to replace the diaphram. If you have one of these you can inspect it, or replace it before installation. The other type is sealed, and a throw-away if it fails. Replacement diaphrams are available. As far as "bench testing, I would not know a good way to do that on a mechanical fuel pump, but it is not a difficult r&r if it turns out to be "bad". Mike Harper --- On Sat, 8/1/09, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: [Roadsters] One quick question left > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 8:30 AM > I found the cap at NAPA--thanks Jim > for the quick answer. > > But no one mentioned testing the fuel pump. Can this be > done off the car somehow? I don't want to install a pump > just to find out it is bad as well. > > Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 10:13:00 2009 From: jrdmf@aol.com To: mike@harperauctionandrealty.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:51:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] One quick question left There are also a couple of check valves and seals that can go bad so if?you're gonna tear it apart then you might as well check those too. The seals are basically paper gaskets between the check valve and the housing?and if they fail then you get no suck or blow. Same goes for the valves and you can check them?out?before you tear it apart?by pumping the?lever with your hand while placing something over the inlet?tube to?see if it pulls and then the?outlet tube to see if it push's. (I wore latex gloves so it provides?a pretty good seal.) The inlet tube should only pull with no pushing on the opposite stroke and the outlet tube should only?push with no?pulling. If you notice either of them doing both then one of the valves or seals has failed. Don't know if new valves and seals are availiable but I just used parts I had?from other pumps I had laying around. ? Hope it helps? ? Jon -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harper To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net ; Tim Sent: Sat, Aug 1, 2009 5:49 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] One quick question left If the arm of the pump functions well, the only thing that should go "bad" would be the diaphram. Some fuel pumps have a series of screws and can be disassembled to replace the diaphram. If you have one of these you can inspect it, or replace it before installation. The other type is sealed, and a throw-away if it fails. Replacement diaphrams are available. As far as "bench testing, I would not know a good way to do that on a mechanical fuel pump, but it is not a difficult r&r if it turns out to be "bad". Mike Harper --- On Sat, 8/1/09, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: [Roadsters] One quick question left > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 8:30 AM > I found the cap at NAPA--thanks Jim > for the quick answer. > > But no one mentioned testing the fuel pump. Can this be > done off the car somehow? I don't want to install a pump > just to find out it is bad as well. > > Tim You are subscribed as jrdmf@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 10:42:41 2009 From: John Atchison To: Bryce Parker Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:33:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters in SW Idaho? Bryce: recommend Loma's Import Car Service, 2141 Kooteani St Boise, ID 208-342-7372 Tell them John Atchison from eastern Idaho sent you I have run auto-x and hillclimb races with these guys for many years. At 11:54 AM 7/28/2009, Bryce Parker wrote: >I am about to inherit my father's '67 1600 that he bought brand new and I want >to start educating myself about restoration. Up until this last year, the car >has always run very well, but things are starting to deteriorate. I see that >there are a lot of websites out there, just curious if there is anyone in the >Boise area that is into these cars and wouldn't mind sharing some knowledge. > This car is like my little brother and I want to do things right and restore >it to a reliable driver we can take on short trips into the local mountains. >Thank you, >Bryce ParkerMeridian, ID >_ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 11:28:36 2009 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:10:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] headlight relay I work with a couple of people who have 56 T-Birds. One of them has had his for about 30 years and rebuilds the power seat relays for other owners. He showed me a relay he was working on. What he is doing is carefully opening up the original relay case, tossing out the original relay guts, and installing a modern 30 Amp relay in its place. Once the origianl case is replaced over the new relay you cannot tell what has been done inside. I know that the relays I am using on Mr. Hyde will not fit into the original relay housing in the roadster, but I have seen relays in the wrecking yard that might do the trick. Do a little homework and you might find what you are looking for.... And a new business to provide relays to roadster owners :-) Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 7/30/2009 2:05:13 PM, Tim Waltz (printner@att.net) wrote: > I know there's a lot of people that don't like the look of the > "new style" > replacement headlight relay (a lot of people say they prefer the old > cad-plated case). > > > > Has anyone looked into putting a modern relay into the old style case? > > > > Tim > > 67.5 1600 slowest resto ever > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 14:45:27 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:23:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] fuel line size and other stuff related... in checking out why my 70 2000 won't stay running I have found a couple issues. One, there were no screens on the banjo bolts--I have a new set some where. Are they the same size between the 1600 and 2000 SUs? Also, the PO used 5/16" fuel hose for at least part of the run. Is this a major issue? Should I swap them out for 1/4"? The fuel pump seemed to work good. Any idea what kind of volume I should expect just spinning the motor with no plugs and running the line into a jar? TIA Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 15:44:07 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: tputland@charter.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:21:24 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] fuel line size and other stuff related... The screen is the same for the 1600, 2000 and Z car. keith williams ccfcccs _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b In a message dated 8/1/2009 1:46:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tputland@charter.net writes: in checking out why my 70 2000 won't stay running I have found a couple issues. One, there were no screens on the banjo bolts--I have a new set some where. Are they the same size between the 1600 and 2000 SUs? Also, the PO used 5/16" fuel hose for at least part of the run. Is this a major issue? Should I swap them out for 1/4"? The fuel pump seemed to work good. Any idea what kind of volume I should expect just spinning the motor with no plugs and running the line into a jar? TIA Tim You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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Thanks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 15:45:28 2009 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:35:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] =?iso-8859-1?q?Santa_Barbara_CA_weather=2C_HI_72=B0F_?= Perfect Roadster weather. Walter Peterson Santa Barbara Ca, 93109 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 16:29:13 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:06:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Ohio? Anybody left on the list from Ohio? Paul 1969 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 21:20:24 2009 From: Paul Bauman To: Autox Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:52:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? Paul: I was born in Cleveland, but I left there when I was five. Does that count? Paul Bauman Westminster, CA 67 1600 On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 18:06 -0400, Paul wrote: > Anybody left on the list from Ohio? > > > > Paul > > 1969 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 1 23:37:14 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:19:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? I'm not from Ohio but my 70 1600 has an Ohio Datsun Roadsters Club sticker on the window! Is the club still active? Fred - So.SF, CA http://gallery.me.com/katzfred/100006 On Aug 1, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Paul wrote: > Anybody left on the list from Ohio? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 04:50:25 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Fred Katz'" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 06:27:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? The club, like so many others, has faded away. Back in 1999 & 2000 we had 15 to 20 roadsters showing up for the MidOhio Vintage GP with OROC. This year there were 4 roadsters on the track, but none on the show field. Hang on to that sticker. I only have one or two left, not counting the one on my 1600. Paul From: Fred Katz [mailto:roadster@astound.net] Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:19 AM To: Paul Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? I'm not from Ohio but my 70 1600 has an Ohio Datsun Roadsters Club sticker on the window! Is the club still active? Fred - So.SF, CA http://gallery.me.com/katzfred/100006 On Aug 1, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Paul wrote: Anybody left on the list from Ohio? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 06:05:29 2009 From: "Steve Harvey" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'Fred Katz'" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 06:41:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? I have my OROC sticker on the wall of my office. Bidding starts at 25.00! Steve -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:28 AM To: 'Fred Katz' Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? The club, like so many others, has faded away. Back in 1999 & 2000 we had 15 to 20 roadsters showing up for the MidOhio Vintage GP with OROC. This year there were 4 roadsters on the track, but none on the show field. Hang on to that sticker. I only have one or two left, not counting the one on my 1600. Paul From: Fred Katz [mailto:roadster@astound.net] Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:19 AM To: Paul Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? I'm not from Ohio but my 70 1600 has an Ohio Datsun Roadsters Club sticker on the window! Is the club still active? Fred - So.SF, CA http://gallery.me.com/katzfred/100006 On Aug 1, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Paul wrote: Anybody left on the list from Ohio? You are subscribed as stebharvey@ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 06:36:07 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:14:09 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Side molding The re-assembly continues, now looking at the chrome molding. It's in ok shape, a little dull and some dings here and there. I decided to see how much new replacements would be, but can't find any. Are they rare/hard-to-find? thanks -bill '68 2000 Solex Libertyville, IL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 08:53:14 2009 From: "Ed Mitchell" To: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 08:27:11 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? Ok...Dead Betty ROLLS :-) Sadly I look like a bobble head in a clown car driving it around with my 6'2" frame.(I'm blaming it in length...not girth) freakin' head sticks up 6" over the short windshield.(it's a midlife crisis gone bad) (do I get a "Do-Over"?) But.I digress. She runs for like 30\45 minutes...then it leaves me stranded It feels like vapor lock...like she's struggling to get air or fuel.so I put an electric fuel pump on.(as if that's a cure).and shortened my tubing to the carbs.but still.being left stranded 'till she cools down. (darn redheads) My operating temp is roughly at 190deg.and I did modify ('cause I'm such the genius) the water pipes to the intake.actually.I omitted them. As I did the interior heater box. Is it possible I'm getting too much heat at the carbs? Is that water flow thru the intake manifold necessary? And this is indeed my problem? Any input would be greatly appreciated Thanks Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, New Mexico 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 09:21:32 2009 From: jover4x4@aol.com To: edmitche@gmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:03:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? Ed, No water to the carbs shouldn't pose a problem.? Check that the timing isn't retarded and the mixture isn't lean (both cause high combustion temps) or both.? Also check the cooling system (water pump and radiator) to see that they are in good condition and are circulating enough fluid.? If you have proper timing, mixture and coolant the car should run fine.? Do you have the heat shield under the carbs? Good fuel helps too.? Good luck John Over Denver -----Original Message----- From: Ed Mitchell To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Aug 2, 2009 8:27 am Subject: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? Ok...Dead Betty ROLLS :-) Sadly I look like a bobble head in a clown car driving it around with my 6'2" frame.(I'm blaming it in length...not girth) freakin' head sticks up 6" over the short windshield.(it's a midlife crisis gone bad) (do I get a "Do-Over"?) But.I digress. She runs for like 30\45 minutes...then it leaves me stranded It feels like vapor lock...like she's struggling to get air or fuel.so I put an electric fuel pump on.(as if that's a cure).and shortened my tubing to the carbs.but still.being left stranded 'till she cools down. (darn redheads) My operating temp is roughly at 190deg.and I did modify ('cause I'm such the genius) the water pipes to the intake.actually.I omitted them. As I did the interior heater box. Is it possible I'm getting too much heat at the carbs? Is that water flow thru the intake manifold necessary? And this is indeed my problem? Any input would be greatly appreciated Thanks Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, New Mexico 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 You are subscribed as jover4x4@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 09:54:02 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 08:26:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? Forget the specifics (it's been discussed here and the 311s.org forums), but water flowing through the intake manifold is good. Did you check the inlet screens in the carb banjo bolts? Are you running a fuel filter/multiple filters? If not, why not? If yes, are they fresh and/or showing clean petrol? Pete "hoping to have mine back on the road today" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Mitchell Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:27 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? Ok...Dead Betty ROLLS :-) She runs for like 30\45 minutes...then it leaves me stranded It feels like vapor lock...like she's struggling to get air or fuel.so I put an electric fuel pump on.(as if that's a cure).and shortened my tubing to the carbs.but still.being left stranded 'till she cools down. (darn redheads) My operating temp is roughly at 190deg.and I did modify ('cause I'm such the genius) the water pipes to the intake.actually.I omitted them. As I did the interior heater box. Is it possible I'm getting too much heat at the carbs? Is that water flow thru the intake manifold necessary? And this is indeed my problem? Any input would be greatly appreciated Thanks Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, New Mexico 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 09:54:28 2009 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: Ed Mitchell , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:30:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? Ed, I removed the intake cooling and heater hoses long ago with no ill effect. (Also have a 14" Spal thinline fan, but that's not likely the issue here, either.) Sounds like classic fuel starvation. Have you flushed the tank of crud and blown out the lines? How about any screens in the carb banjo fittings (or are those solely Solex)? Can't help but commiserate on the bobblehead issue; I'm 6'4" and had to re-mount the seat tracks aft and rake the seat further back to see under the top of the high windshield visors. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Ed Mitchell wrote: > Ok...Dead Betty ROLLS :-) Sadly I look like a bobble head in a clown car > driving it around with my 6'2" frame.(I'm blaming it in length...not girth) > freakin' head sticks up 6" over the short windshield.(it's a midlife crisis > gone bad) (do I get a "Do-Over"?) > > > > But.I digress. > > > > She runs for like 30\45 minutes...then it leaves me stranded > > > > It feels like vapor lock...like she's struggling to get air or fuel.so I put > an electric fuel pump on.(as if that's a cure).and shortened my tubing to > the carbs.but still.being left stranded 'till she cools down. (darn > redheads) > > > > My operating temp is roughly at 190deg.and I did modify ('cause I'm such the > genius) the water pipes to the intake.actually.I omitted them. As I did the > interior heater box. > > > > Is it possible I'm getting too much heat at the carbs? Is that water flow > thru the intake manifold necessary? And this is indeed my problem? > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated > > > > Thanks > > > > Ed Mitchell > > Las Cruces, New Mexico > > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 10:21:54 2009 From: "MH" To: "RWM \(Out of the Office\)" , "Ed Mitchell" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:58:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? Ignition coil ----- Original Message ----- From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: "Ed Mitchell" ; Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? > Ed, > > I removed the intake cooling and heater hoses long ago with no ill > effect. (Also have a 14" Spal thinline fan, but that's not likely the > issue here, either.) > > Sounds like classic fuel starvation. Have you flushed the tank of crud > and blown out the lines? How about any screens in the carb banjo > fittings (or are those solely Solex)? > > Can't help but commiserate on the bobblehead issue; I'm 6'4" and had to > re-mount the seat tracks aft and rake the seat further back to see under > the top of the high windshield visors. > > - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex > > > > Ed Mitchell wrote: > > Ok...Dead Betty ROLLS :-) Sadly I look like a bobble head in a clown car > > driving it around with my 6'2" frame.(I'm blaming it in length...not girth) > > freakin' head sticks up 6" over the short windshield.(it's a midlife crisis > > gone bad) (do I get a "Do-Over"?) > > > > > > > > But.I digress. > > > > > > > > She runs for like 30\45 minutes...then it leaves me stranded > > > > > > > > It feels like vapor lock...like she's struggling to get air or fuel.so I put > > an electric fuel pump on.(as if that's a cure).and shortened my tubing to > > the carbs.but still.being left stranded 'till she cools down. (darn > > redheads) > > > > > > > > My operating temp is roughly at 190deg.and I did modify ('cause I'm such the > > genius) the water pipes to the intake.actually.I omitted them. As I did the > > interior heater box. > > > > > > > > Is it possible I'm getting too much heat at the carbs? Is that water flow > > thru the intake manifold necessary? And this is indeed my problem? > > > > > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Ed Mitchell > > > > Las Cruces, New Mexico > > > > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 11:08:07 2009 From: Steve Ehlers To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, boakes@gmail.com Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:56:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side molding Hey Bill , As far as side molding goes "Are they rare/hard-to-find? " . I too would like to have NOS trim for an entire car .Way back in the mid 70's ,we all removed them and filled the holes for a cleaner look on our cars .I wish I still had those originals .I have been trying to put together a complete set for several years .I now have all in NOS ,except the rear 1/4 panels .I ended up finding several NOS R/H doors ,Had to pay a fortune for a L/H door ,and got the front Fenders from a friends car restoration parts stash I bought.I do have several extra used perfect and not so good pieces ,that I'm going to ahead and have fixed and straightened . I will sell what I have then after I keep an extra set for my car ,for just in cases .Did you see what the last used set sold for on eBay ($455 ,and they were far from perfect)? NOS sets from Rally or Stan have sold for $ 750 or so in the past years . Rally only has New Left Door and Left Quarter panel moldings left in stock at $118 and $216 respectively . I will be selling more of my NOS parts on the forums and eBay soon .Keep looking . Steve www.risingsunperformance.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 11:36:47 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Ed Mitchell , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:12:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? I concur with Mike Hudson, It sounds like the ignition coil overheating. Borrow a new(ish) coil and see if that fixes the problem. I also agree with Pete that water through the manifold is a good thing. Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Mitchell" > Ok...Dead Betty ROLLS :-) Sadly I look like a bobble head in a clown car > driving it around with my 6'2" frame.(I'm blaming it in length...not > girth) > freakin' head sticks up 6" over the short windshield.(it's a midlife > crisis > gone bad) (do I get a "Do-Over"?) > > But.I digress. > > She runs for like 30\45 minutes...then it leaves me stranded > > It feels like vapor lock...like she's struggling to get air or fuel.so I > put > an electric fuel pump on.(as if that's a cure).and shortened my tubing to > the carbs.but still.being left stranded 'till she cools down. (darn > redheads) > > My operating temp is roughly at 190deg.and I did modify ('cause I'm such > the > genius) the water pipes to the intake.actually.I omitted them. As I did > the > interior heater box. > > Is it possible I'm getting too much heat at the carbs? Is that water flow > thru the intake manifold necessary? And this is indeed my problem? > > Any input would be greatly appreciated > Thanks > Ed Mitchell ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 11:38:33 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:21:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. Just noticed something funky with the 4 sp tranny in my 1600 roadster. Every so often, it won't go in reverse. The stick won't even move over to that position. A little jiggling, and I can usually make it work, but I'm wondering what causes this and what the fix is. Anyone know? Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 12:08:18 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:45:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? The water in the coolant is 190 degrees and the exhaust manifold is like 800 degrees. The water actually cools the manifold since it is subject to radiant heat from the exhaust manifold. The carbs have the vapor bypass which is supposed to help with vapor lock. You might inspect it to see if it is working properly. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:13 PM To: Ed Mitchell; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cooling the intake? I concur with Mike Hudson, It sounds like the ignition coil overheating. Borrow a new(ish) coil and see if that fixes the problem. I also agree with Pete that water through the manifold is a good thing. Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Mitchell" > Ok...Dead Betty ROLLS :-) Sadly I look like a bobble head in a clown car > driving it around with my 6'2" frame.(I'm blaming it in length...not > girth) > freakin' head sticks up 6" over the short windshield.(it's a midlife > crisis > gone bad) (do I get a "Do-Over"?) > > But.I digress. > > She runs for like 30\45 minutes...then it leaves me stranded > > It feels like vapor lock...like she's struggling to get air or fuel.so I > put > an electric fuel pump on.(as if that's a cure).and shortened my tubing to > the carbs.but still.being left stranded 'till she cools down. (darn > redheads) > > My operating temp is roughly at 190deg.and I did modify ('cause I'm such > the > genius) the water pipes to the intake.actually.I omitted them. As I did > the > interior heater box. > > Is it possible I'm getting too much heat at the carbs? Is that water flow > thru the intake manifold necessary? And this is indeed my problem? > > Any input would be greatly appreciated > Thanks > Ed Mitchell You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 12:08:56 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: "'Eddie'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:48:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. Are you disengaging the reverse lockout lever with your left foot? The little metal pad in the left corner of the floorboard. Andy -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:22 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. Just noticed something funky with the 4 sp tranny in my 1600 roadster. Every so often, it won't go in reverse. The stick won't even move over to that position. A little jiggling, and I can usually make it work, but I'm wondering what causes this and what the fix is. Anyone know? Eddie You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 13:58:18 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Eddie" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:02:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. Eddie, If your shifter won't even move to the reverse position, I'd take a look at the reverse lockout spring on the shift mechanism where it enters the trans, and make sure everything is in order there -- nothing hanging up. Access that area by removing the trans tunnel shift cover plate. I occasionally cannot get a 4-speed or 5-speed to engage in 1st or reverse. The gear shift will move to that position, but the gears just don't engage. However, if, for example, I am trying to get into reverse and it doesn't go, I just put it in another gear, then try reverse again. Never has failed to engage a second time. Sometimes, with the trans not turning, the gears line up just so and won't go into one gear or another. The other thing to do is put the shifter into neutral, let the clutch out a little and then put it back in. Also works, but takes longer than just shoving it into another gear. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. > Just noticed something funky with the 4 sp tranny in my 1600 roadster. > > Every so often, it won't go in reverse. The stick won't even move over to > that position. A little jiggling, and I can usually make it work, but I'm > wondering what causes this and what the fix is. Anyone know? > > Eddie > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 14:39:25 2009 From: "Charles Breault" To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" , "'Eddie'" Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:10:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. Reverse is not a syncronized gear. It is not unusual to have to double clutch to get the shifter in. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:03 PM To: Eddie; Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. Eddie, If your shifter won't even move to the reverse position, I'd take a look at the reverse lockout spring on the shift mechanism where it enters the trans, and make sure everything is in order there -- nothing hanging up. Access that area by removing the trans tunnel shift cover plate. I occasionally cannot get a 4-speed or 5-speed to engage in 1st or reverse. The gear shift will move to that position, but the gears just don't engage. However, if, for example, I am trying to get into reverse and it doesn't go, I just put it in another gear, then try reverse again. Never has failed to engage a second time. Sometimes, with the trans not turning, the gears line up just so and won't go into one gear or another. The other thing to do is put the shifter into neutral, let the clutch out a little and then put it back in. Also works, but takes longer than just shoving it into another gear. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. > Just noticed something funky with the 4 sp tranny in my 1600 roadster. > > Every so often, it won't go in reverse. The stick won't even move over to > that position. A little jiggling, and I can usually make it work, but I'm > wondering what causes this and what the fix is. Anyone know? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 14:41:49 2009 From: Brad Stapleton To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net>, datsun-roadsters Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:26:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? I'm here in Cincinnati. Brad 1966 2000 swapper On Aug 1, 2009, at 6:06 PM, Paul wrote: > Anybody left on the list from Ohio? > > > > Paul > > 1969 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as brad@bradstapleton.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 15:27:30 2009 From: Eddie To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:50:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. Gary, Thanks for the real tip. Much appreciated.. Eddie Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Eddie, > > If your shifter won't even move to the reverse position, I'd take a > look at the reverse lockout spring on the shift mechanism where it > enters the trans, and make sure everything is in order there -- > nothing hanging up. Access that area by removing the trans tunnel > shift cover plate. > > I occasionally cannot get a 4-speed or 5-speed to engage in 1st or > reverse. The gear shift will move to that position, but the gears just > don't engage. However, if, for example, I am trying to get into > reverse and it doesn't go, I just put it in another gear, then try > reverse again. Never has failed to engage a second time. Sometimes, > with the trans not turning, the gears line up just so and won't go > into one gear or another. The other thing to do is put the shifter > into neutral, let the clutch out a little and then put it back in. > Also works, but takes longer than just shoving it into another gear. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:21 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. > > >> Just noticed something funky with the 4 sp tranny in my 1600 roadster. >> >> Every so often, it won't go in reverse. The stick won't even move >> over to that position. A little jiggling, and I can usually make it >> work, but I'm wondering what causes this and what the fix is. Anyone >> know? >> >> Eddie >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 15:27:52 2009 From: Eddie To: Charles Breault Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:50:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. Charles, thanks for the tip, but double clutching doesn't seem to do it. Eddie Charles Breault wrote: > Reverse is not a syncronized gear. It is not unusual to have to double > clutch to get the shifter in. > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy > Ault > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:03 PM > To: Eddie; Datsun Roadster List > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. > > Eddie, > > If your shifter won't even move to the reverse position, I'd take a look at > the reverse lockout spring on the shift mechanism where it enters the trans, > > and make sure everything is in order there -- nothing hanging up. Access > that area by removing the trans tunnel shift cover plate. > > I occasionally cannot get a 4-speed or 5-speed to engage in 1st or reverse. > The gear shift will move to that position, but the gears just don't engage. > However, if, for example, I am trying to get into reverse and it doesn't go, > > I just put it in another gear, then try reverse again. Never has failed to > engage a second time. Sometimes, with the trans not turning, the gears line > > up just so and won't go into one gear or another. The other thing to do is > put the shifter into neutral, let the clutch out a little and then put it > back in. Also works, but takes longer than just shoving it into another > gear. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eddie" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:21 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. > > > >> Just noticed something funky with the 4 sp tranny in my 1600 roadster. >> >> Every so often, it won't go in reverse. The stick won't even move over to >> > > >> that position. A little jiggling, and I can usually make it work, but I'm >> > > >> wondering what causes this and what the fix is. Anyone know? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 16:09:43 2009 From: "Mark Sedlack" To: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:40:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? Yep, I still follow the list, but we're moving to the new shop, er, house this Wednesday, so I've been a tad busy..... Mark Sedlack Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Ohio? > Anybody left on the list from Ohio? > > > > Paul > > 1969 1600 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as msedlack@neo.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 16:27:16 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:01:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] MSRP for a 1968 SPL311 ? I'm photoshopping up a window sticker for my Roadster. Anyone have any idea what the MSRP was for these things in 1968? I have this info, but need it for 1968 1967 1600 = $2546.00 1968 1600 = $????.00 Also, I'm using a 1967 window sticker template, does anyone know if they were the same for all the years? -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 20:38:22 2009 From: "robert k. smith" To: paul cort <9laser3@bright.net>, Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:14:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? hi paul, yeah those were the days. attached is a pic of some of the roadsters at the OROC picnic we use to have at my house when i lived in pataskala, ohio. bob smith 69 srl311 > From: 9laser3@bright.net > To: roadster@astound.net > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 06:27:38 -0400 > CC: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? > > The club, like so many others, has faded away. Back in 1999 & 2000 we had > 15 to 20 roadsters showing up for the MidOhio Vintage GP with OROC. This > year there were 4 roadsters on the track, but none on the show field. Hang > on to that sticker. I only have one or two left, not counting the one on my > 1600. > > > > Paul > > > > From: Fred Katz [mailto:roadster@astound.net] > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:19 AM > To: Paul > Cc: 'datsun-roadsters' > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? > > > > > > I'm not from Ohio but my 70 1600 has an Ohio Datsun Roadsters Club sticker > on the window! Is the club still active? > > > > Fred - So.SF, CA > > http://gallery.me.com/katzfred/100006 > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Paul wrote: > > Anybody left on the list from Ohio? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-HM [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 21:23:39 2009 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: roadster list Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? When I got my '66 1600, there was an envelope inside with a flyer advertising the Dairyland Datsun Roadster Day-Out from Bill Wessel. It advertised an upcoming gathering at the Chicago Historic Races at Road America. On the back was a list of members who were looking for certain items. One name stood out; Lance White, of Cincinnati, OH. Having been in the BMW club for almost 20 years, I know a Lance White in Ohio. Last fall, at the BMW club's Oktoberfest at Watkins Glen, NY, I caught up with Lance, and asked him if he ever had a Datsun roadster. Indeed he did, and still has it, but I got the impression it might need a bit of work. vince Naperville, IL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 22:39:20 2009 From: Eddie To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:57:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. Gary, "Access that area by removing the trans tunnel shift cover plate" Does the trans need to be removed from the car to do this? (Ugh, I'm hoping not!) Eddie Gary and Cindy Ault wrote: > Eddie, > > If your shifter won't even move to the reverse position, I'd take a > look at the reverse lockout spring on the shift mechanism where it > enters the trans, and make sure everything is in order there -- > nothing hanging up. Access that area by removing the trans tunnel > shift cover plate. > > I occasionally cannot get a 4-speed or 5-speed to engage in 1st or > reverse. The gear shift will move to that position, but the gears just > don't engage. However, if, for example, I am trying to get into > reverse and it doesn't go, I just put it in another gear, then try > reverse again. Never has failed to engage a second time. Sometimes, > with the trans not turning, the gears line up just so and won't go > into one gear or another. The other thing to do is put the shifter > into neutral, let the clutch out a little and then put it back in. > Also works, but takes longer than just shoving it into another gear. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" > To: "Datsun Roadster List" > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:21 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Transmission questions.. > > >> Just noticed something funky with the 4 sp tranny in my 1600 roadster. >> >> Every so often, it won't go in reverse. The stick won't even move >> over to that position. A little jiggling, and I can usually make it >> work, but I'm wondering what causes this and what the fix is. Anyone >> know? >> >> Eddie >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 2 22:39:47 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Dave Cooke Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:59:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] MSRP for a 1968 SPL311 ? Thought I had it but not. I have a brochure listing the 1968 2000 as $2621, but that may be a typo because the 1967 2000 was also listed as $2621. Still looking for the 1968 1600. Fred - So.SF On Aug 2, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Dave Cooke wrote: > I'm photoshopping up a window sticker for my Roadster. Anyone have > any idea > what the MSRP was for these things in 1968? > I have this info, but need it for 1968 > > 1967 1600 = $2546.00 > 1968 1600 = $????.00 > > Also, I'm using a 1967 window sticker template, does anyone know if > they > were the same for all the years? > > -- > Dave Cooke > Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 3 01:08:03 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Dave Cooke , Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:52:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] MSRP for a 1968 SPL311 ? I have a 1969 "Motorsport in British Columbia" magazine ad (full back cover) which lists it at $3345 Canadian funds....... Doesn't really help, but it's a neat ad. " How's it go? Out of sight!"........... Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Cooke" > I'm photoshopping up a window sticker for my Roadster. Anyone have any > idea > what the MSRP was for these things in 1968? > I have this info, but need it for 1968 > > 1967 1600 = $2546.00 > 1968 1600 = $????.00 > > Also, I'm using a 1967 window sticker template, does anyone know if they > were the same for all the years? > > -- > Dave Cooke > Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 3 12:57:00 2009 From: "Fred Schroeder" To: , Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:24:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side molding Rare? Yes Hard-to-find? Very Expensive? Extremely!!! Best regards, Fred Schroeder roadster2@schroeder-family.us Home page: http://schroeder-family.us NRA Life Member Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Oakes To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Side molding The re-assembly continues, now looking at the chrome molding. It's in ok shape, a little dull and some dings here and there. I decided to see how much new replacements would be, but can't find any. Are they rare/hard-to-find? thanks -bill '68 2000 Solex Libertyville, IL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as roadster2@schroeder-family.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 3 13:41:47 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:13:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 grille badge on a 1600 grille pic? >From the volumes on "Imitation = flattery", I recently saw a roadster car show pic (Shasta?) where someone had mounted a 2000 center badge on a 1600 grill. Anyone have that pic in their albums somewhere? I have searched all the usual suspects (aka: Alvin) but haven't found it. It was a webshots album, I know, because I tried to save a copy and it said I could not because I wasn't designated a "friend". Thanks, Paddy O'PartsSearch 69 2000, contemplating mutiny due to lack of use ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 3 15:13:59 2009 From: Dan Zubkoff To: boakes@gmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Fred Schroeder Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side molding Here is a link to a write-up by Peter Vanderpas about his experience using brand new reproduction MGB Molding as an inexpensive alternative. http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/datsun-roadsters/2005-05/msg00003.htm l I was looking for any oportunity to keep costs down, and decided to try using reproduction MGB stainless steel side moulding instead of the original Datsun parts. This is a daily driver, and not a show car, so at $50 for a complete set of moulding (including all of the fasteners) I felt it was worth trying to make it work. The moulding required a cut for the front piece and door piece. The cut was done at the front of the door and rear of the front piece, and came out pretty clean. The moulding came from Moss Motors, part number 453-478, if anyone is interested: http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29054 If anyone is looking for a less expensive alternative to the original roadster moulding, I think these parts from Moss are worth looking at. Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Fred Schroeder wrote: > From: Fred Schroeder > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Side molding > To: boakes@gmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 1:24 PM > Rare? Yes > Hard-to-find? Very > Expensive? Extremely!!! > > Best regards, > > Fred Schroeder > roadster2@schroeder-family.us > Home page: http://schroeder-family.us > NRA Life Member > > Behold the superfluous. They are always sick. They > vomit their gall and call it a newspaper. > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844-1900 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Oakes > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:14 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Side molding > > > The re-assembly continues, now looking at the chrome > molding. It's in > ok shape, a little dull and some dings here and > there. I decided to > see how much new replacements would be, but can't > find any. Are they > rare/hard-to-find? > > thanks > -bill > > '68 2000 Solex > Libertyville, IL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadster2@schroeder-family.us > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as zubkoff@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 3 19:17:24 2009 From: Bob Ballinger <12061997@comcast.net> To: datsun list datsun Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Hi List. Was in Missouri last weekend and saw some pictures of a 67-1600 in a parade held in Brookfield Missouri a couple of weeks ago. Anyone on the list? bob ballinger 67-1600 Muncie,IN ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 3 23:11:11 2009 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] cal speedway update hi everyone i took my roadster to california speedway (sorry, i still call it that, along with "sears point"), and i wanted to share some things with you. the good: 1. ron carter showed up to hang out for a little while, and share some of his experience. thanks again ron. 2. i broke my personal best time by about 9 seconds with a 2:11.246, in the relative cool of sunday morning. i attribute most of the improvement to now running R compound tires (R888s) where before i was running street tires (azenis). the grip in the corners and especially under braking is amazing, compared to before. i feel like a soccer player who suddenly got cleats. 3. i didn't break the car. the bad: 1. my front lug nuts won't stay tight through a full stint (8 - 10 laps). i bought new rims for the R888s (205 50 15 on 15 x 7, 0-offest konig rewinds), and torque them to 80+ lbs before heading out. each time on return some of the nuts are half that. some are looser.... can i use loc-tite on my lug nuts? should i? 2. my front volvo calipers stick, always slightly against the rotor, sometimes so much so that i can't turn the wheel by hand. i open them up before i go out, and come back and they're stuck again. i'm running hawk blue pads, and Castrol GT-LMA. when they stick, they heat up so fast, that i lost my pedal early in some stints. pumping brings the pedal back, and if i start pumping early, i can still drive somewhat effectively. but it's not the hot setup. hehe. ok it is. 4. oil pressure guage reads around 40 at idle, over 50 when running 45 mph to the gas station, and about 30 or so on the track, at speed. i have the stock guage, but a fairly new one. i run mobil 1 in the 7 qt alum pan (i forget the wt offhand), with competition baffle, and U20 oil pump (in my H20). the ugly. thankfully, nothing i can think of. i'm really happy about the new PB, and how much fun i had pushing this little car around the track. i pushed it hard, and it did great. there is still alot to do to the car, but the fun factor is right now, through the roof! s 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 3 23:25:33 2009 From: Tom Duffy To: Dave Cooke Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] MSRP for a 1968 SPL311 ? My copy of Motor Trend for August 1970 has a review of the Datsun, Triumph Spitfire, Fiat 850 and MG Midget. (got off ebay a while back) It describes the Datsun 1600 as having a base price of $2766, but I think it is for the 1969 model, given that the pictures show a SPL311 with side markers. Tom. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 4 02:25:41 2009 From: Eric To: Datsun-Roadsters Mail List Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:04:47 +1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cal speedway update Hey Steven, thanks for the great posting, and the fun factor level report. 'through the roof!' is pretty high in anyone's book, though perhaps more likely when driving a Datsun roadster... best wishes, Eric in Townsville steven boortz wrote: > hi everyone > i took my roadster to california speedway (sorry, i still call it that, along with "sears point"), and i wanted to share some things with you. > > the good: 1. ron carter showed up to hang out for a little while, and share some of his experience. thanks again ron. 2. i broke my personal best time by about 9 seconds with a 2:11.246, in the relative cool of sunday morning. i attribute most of the improvement to now running R compound tires (R888s) where before i was running street tires (azenis). the grip in the corners and especially under braking is amazing, compared to before. i feel like a soccer player who suddenly got cleats. > 3. i didn't break the car. > > the bad: 1. my front lug nuts won't stay tight through a full stint (8 - 10 laps). i bought new rims for the R888s (205 50 15 on 15 x 7, 0-offest konig rewinds), and torque them to 80+ lbs before heading out. each time on return some of the nuts are half that. some are looser.... can i use loc-tite on my lug nuts? should i? 2. my front volvo calipers stick, always slightly against the rotor, sometimes so much so that i can't turn the wheel by hand. i open them up before i go out, and come back and they're stuck again. i'm running hawk blue pads, and Castrol GT-LMA. when they stick, they heat up so fast, that i lost my pedal early in some stints. pumping brings the pedal back, and if i start pumping early, i can still drive somewhat effectively. but it's not the hot setup. hehe. ok it is. 4. oil pressure guage reads around 40 at idle, over 50 when running 45 mph to the gas station, and about 30 or so on the track, at speed. i have the > stock guage, but a fairly new one. i run mobil 1 in the 7 qt alum pan (i forget the wt offhand), with competition baffle, and U20 oil pump (in my H20). > > the ugly. thankfully, nothing i can think of. i'm really happy about the new PB, and how much fun i had pushing this little car around the track. i pushed it hard, and it did great. > > there is still alot to do to the car, but the fun factor is right now, through the roof! > > s > 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as egustavson@bigpond.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 4 07:03:06 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 7:05:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster For Sale My Dad has checked out that 69 1600 that is for sale near Yuba City, CA. Email me if you are interested in the pics he took or what he has to say about the car. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 4 07:06:25 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 5:19:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 4 11:05:07 2009 From: "Mark Antolik" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:28:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? I am still here...not sure of who else! Mark Amherst, OH -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:07 PM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] Ohio? Anybody left on the list from Ohio? Paul 1969 1600 You are subscribed as mantolik@oh.rr.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 4 13:07:13 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:07:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? Let's face it, they moved to Michigan for the Blue & Yellow! -----Original Message----- [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Subject: [Roadsters] Ohio? Anybody left on the list from Ohio? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 4 14:34:55 2009 From: Dan Kroninger To: Datsun Mailing List Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:45:06 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Ohio? They would have been way better off coming here to Big Red!! Plus, once we get they Dairyland Datsuns back together, we will have two things on MI! LOL Dan > From: slowboy@cox.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:07:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? > > Let's face it, they moved to Michigan for the Blue & Yellow! > > > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul > Subject: [Roadsters] Ohio? > > Anybody left on the list from Ohio? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d_kroninger@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US :SI_PH_software:082009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 4 18:03:57 2009 From: Bryce Parker To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Heading West on I-84 in Nampa Saw a nice looking red Datsun roadster heading West on I-84 in Nampa, Idaho last week. I was heading East so not exactly sure of year or model, but I thought it was a low windshield. Is it anyone on the list? If so, let me know - I'd like to get in touch as I am starting a resto on a '67 1600 - it is now safe & sound in my garage after it's long journey from Texas. A couple of pics are attached. Bryce Parker Meridian, ID [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of Datsun 001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of Datsun 005.jpg] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 4 18:33:58 2009 From: Michael D Cox To: 'datsun-roadsters' Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:59:07 +0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ohio? Hi Paul, Ohio? Technically yes. My 69 2000 is in Bryan, Ohio up in the northwest corner of the state. Had her on the road for the past two months while visiting my parents but is now parked in their heated garage until June when I next return. I am on my way back to my teaching job in Singapore...wish I could have taken her with me. Mike On Sunday, August 02, 2009, at 06:06AM, "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> wrote: > Anybody left on the list from Ohio? > > > >Paul > >1969 1600 >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 4 23:04:15 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Dave Cooke'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:14:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] MSRP for a 1968 SPL311 ? The Dec 1968 issue of Foreign Car Guide lists it as $2766, but it isn't clear from the article if this is for a 1968 or 1969 model. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cooke Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:02 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] MSRP for a 1968 SPL311 ? I'm photoshopping up a window sticker for my Roadster. Anyone have any idea what the MSRP was for these things in 1968? I have this info, but need it for 1968 1967 1600 = $2546.00 1968 1600 = $????.00 Also, I'm using a 1967 window sticker template, does anyone know if they were the same for all the years? -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 01:45:37 2009 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:14:01 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] test Are my posts getting to the list? Also, anybody know what the spring rate was for stock and comp rear springs? Thanks! Greg Burrows ____________________________________________________________ Free info for small business owners. Click here to find great products geared for your business. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYWIQV26Dvs6hPqz3EgoZ1O8O IYR31LZqDMayRtSHNlaWP09htMOdy/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 09:43:28 2009 From: jeremy mayne To: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:22:09 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Stroker motor update Hi all, Hearing some stories about roadsters on the track made me want to chime in about my recent roadster endeavors. I did get a little track time a few weekends ago when a friend of my brother's invited us out to Sandia Motor Speedway, where he had rented the track to do some testing on his Triumph TR6 race car. Between the testing, we had the track to ourselves for a few hours and I did at least a dozen laps on the full roadcourse. The roadster ran well, with the stroker motor powering out of corners nicely, and once the tires warmed up, it handled well too, with a nice balanced feel. My brother brought his street modified TR6, so we were on the track at the same time (though we kind of kept our distance from each other, since this was a "run at your own risk" track time). I've also written up a detailed account of my engine build experience, along with some photos, if anyone's interested. You should be able to get to it at the following link: http://www.retromod-mag.com/datsun-roadster Jeremy Mayne 70 SPL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 10:12:47 2009 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] aluminum radiators hi everyone does anyone have any experience with Champion Radiators i see often on eBay? they advertise a 3 row aluminum Roadster radiator for less the $200. seems too good to be true, which usually means one thing.... thanks in advance steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 10:46:33 2009 From: vze2fhba@verizon.net To: vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:18:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aluminum radiators /rZ93oR: Permission denied ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 12:01:31 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] aluminum radiators Discussed on 311s.org forums: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10241 Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven boortz" To: "roadsters" Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:46:14 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] aluminum radiators hi everyone does anyone have any experience with Champion Radiators i see often on eBay? they advertise a 3 row aluminum Roadster radiator for less the $200. seems too good to be true, which usually means one thing.... thanks in advance steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 12:16:14 2009 From: "Ed Mitchell" To: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:53:20 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] timing obviously is everything Hi All, Timing question. On my timing cover.there's a fin.looks like a timing pointer to me for my timing alignment.but maybe it's a fin to structurally support the timing cover. And the manual shows a pointer that comes up from behind the pulley...and over the top of the belt channel (sorry if my verbiage isn't technically sound) I've uploaded a picture of my madness (1st- two pics) at http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG And a picture of what the Datsun Manual shows (grainy but viewable) And if the pointer is missing? What to do? What to do? Thanks Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 13:45:25 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] timing obviously is everything Yes, that is the timing pointer. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Mitchell" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 10:53:20 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] timing obviously is everything Hi All, Timing question. On my timing cover. there's a fin. looks like a timing pointer to me for my timing alignment. but maybe it's a fin to structurally support the timing cover. And the manual shows a pointer that comes up from behind the pulley... and over the top of the belt channel (sorry if my verbiage isn't technically sound) I've uploaded a picture of my madness (1st- two pics) at: http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG And a picture of what the Datsun Manual shows (grainy but viewable) And if the pointer is missing? What to do? What to do? Thanks Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 13:45:49 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stock & comp rear spring rates Big, interesting discussion on 311s.org regarding rear springs and mono-leaf replacements: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10068 In that discussion, it's mentioned that the stock rear leafs are rated at 150lb/inch, but no one seems to know what the comp leafs are rated at. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:14:01 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] test [snip] Also, anybody know what the spring rate was for stock and comp rear springs? Thanks! Greg Burrows ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 13:58:51 2009 From: "Rita Trujillo" To: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:23:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] NEST DATSUN RUN OR CAR SHOW LET ME KNOW WHEN THE NEXT CAR SHOW OR RUN IS. I LIVE IN SOUTHERN CA. AROUND LOS ANGELES. Rita Trujillo ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 15:01:51 2009 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:38:27 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts Ok, this is the 3rd time I've tried to post this! Apparently it is not hitting the list... I have an excellent, undamaged used set (driver and passenger) of 3 inch 5 point harnesses for sale. Color is black, made by RCI, latch type mechanism, has anti-sub belt and uses a Y harness for the shoulders. They bolt into stock placements other than the anti-sub where you have to drill a hole on the floor in front of your seats (no big deal, and I highly recommend the anti-sub as you will be much more secure). Belts adjust easily even when on, as you can loosen the shoulders without undoing the latch to move around the car. If you have never used 5 points you will be amazed at how much more secure you feel in the car, especially at speed around the corners! Asking $40/obo plus shipping from 98391. If nobody is interested I will be taking them to the Blue Lake run this weekend if I go, or will put them on craigslist next week. Thanks! Greg Burrows ____________________________________________________________ Workers Compensation Legal Advice. Click here http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYbk8tVT33bn5qZ6CvVoSsfDa CSfWMjHGZLg7pa86hDownYcJ7Xs7u/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 15:29:52 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:43:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of town) These are near Spokane WA. I don't know anything else about them. Hope this helps someone on the List. -Greg SRL31100494 ------ Forwarded Message From: "Smith, Aaron T" Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:17:18 -0700 To: "Gregory S. Morrison" Conversation: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of town) Subject: RE: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of town) Here are a couple of pictures. The car is definitely a project. Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Gregory S. Morrison [mailto:gsm@gregorysmorrison.com] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:32 AM To: sale-dtmhp-1308213018@craigslist.org Subject: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of town) ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1308213018.html Please email pictures. Don't need many, just enough to see what you've got for sale. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------ this message was remailed to you via: sale-dtmhp-1308213018@craigslist.org ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ End of Forwarded Message [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of DCP06627.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of DCP06628.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of DCP06629.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of DCP06631.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of DCP06634.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of DCP06632.JPG] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 17:27:58 2009 From: Gary Boone To: Pete Peters , Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stock & comp rear spring rates I haven't been following the 311s topic but just checked it out briefly. Since it's 8 pages long now, I haven't read thru it all yet. However, my 1998 NISMO catalog indicates the rear comp springs are rated at 207lb/in. Front comps are 862 lb/in. For my autocross purposes, it seemed the rear comp springs were too stiff, so I removed the short leaves from the springs. It softened it up enough to make it handle more neutrally. I also removed the NISMO rear sway bar and added a panhard rod. But after removing the short leaves from the rear comp springs, the rear end bottoms out on the bump stops on severe road bumps on the street and it hurts. Since haven't bought a NISMO catalog in several years, today I googled NISMO catalog and they have it online now. I found that the online catalog does not have anything for our roadsters. But it was amusing that they comp parts for a 240ZX. I haven't seen a 240ZX yet. Has anyone else? I'll post this on the 311s forum too. Gary Boone 1970 SRL311 with EFI'd U20, running better all the time, but more tuning ahead. http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/271132 To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:16:41 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stock & comp rear spring rates Big, interesting discussion on 311s.org regarding rear springs and mono-leaf replacements: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10068 In that discussion, it's mentioned that the stock rear leafs are rated at 150lb/inch, but no one seems to know what the comp leafs are rated at. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:14:01 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] test [snip] Also, anybody know what the spring rate was for stock and comp rear springs? Thanks! Greg Burrows You are subscribed as gboone70@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 17:42:40 2009 From: Gary Boone To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stock & comp rear spring rates I haven't been following the 311s topic but just checked it out briefly. Since it's 8 pages long now, I haven't read thru it all yet. However, my 1998 NISMO catalog indicates the rear comp springs are rated at 207lb/in. Front comps are 862 lb/in. For my autocross purposes, it seemed the rear comp springs were too stiff, so I removed the short leaves from the springs. It softened it up enough to make it handle more neutrally. I also removed the NISMO rear sway bar and added a panhard rod. But after removing the short leaves from the rear comp springs, the rear end bottoms out on the bump stops on severe road bumps on the street and it hurts. Since haven't bought a NISMO catalog in several years, today I googled NISMO catalog and they have it online now. I found that the online catalog does not have anything for our roadsters. But it was amusing that they comp parts for a 240ZX. I haven't seen a 240ZX yet. Has anyone else? I'll post this on the 311s forum too. Gary Boone 1970 SRL311 with EFI'd U20, running better all the time, but more tuning ahead. http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/271132 To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:16:41 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stock & comp rear spring rates Big, interesting discussion on 311s.org regarding rear springs and mono-leaf replacements: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10068 In that discussion, it's mentioned that the stock rear leafs are rated at 150lb/inch, but no one seems to know what the comp leafs are rated at. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:14:01 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] test [snip] Also, anybody know what the spring rate was for stock and comp rear springs? Thanks! Greg Burrows ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 6 20:40:03 2009 From: "Brian Hollands" To: "'Pete Peters'" Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:11:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stock & comp rear spring rates 205lbs/in At least that's what I remember but I also remember the stock springs to be about 180lbs/in. ________________________________ Brian Hollands '69 2000 Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- In that discussion, it's mentioned that the stock rear leafs are rated at 150lb/inch, but no one seems to know what the comp leafs are rated at. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 7 01:39:12 2009 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:08:36 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] seat belts Hi gang, as so often happens when people post parts to the list, it results in a barrage of emails with interest. To keep it fair, the first person to respond was Steve Wells (in 6 minutes!), followed by Tom Hendricks. Steve has expressed interest, while Tom has said he would buy. Several more of you are in similar categories. So Steve, since you were first it is in your court. If you do not want them, then Tom is next up and so on. I like to keep this public and fair (I remember the feeding frenzy that occured when I gave away my front brake calipers and stuff on the list!). I'm not going to do a bidding war, as to me that is not fair (i.e. if someone wants to pay the $40, I won't be asking for $50. At the same time, if someone wants to offer me $30 and I have someone who will give me the original $40 I asked, then the $40 wins... seem fair?). I await your response Steve :-) Hope everyone is cool with this... Greg ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find experienced pros to help with your home improvement project. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYW3CNYBaQklmw4nq3Ohm3qib zfeL2OKA8x7C9ogmCLjE5zxQYwBuY/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 7 07:14:02 2009 From: Mitchell Planck To: Brian Hollands Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:51:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stock & comp rear spring rates I don't know the spring rates but I have a scan of the catalog on my site. The Roadster specific pages are 36 & 37. ( http://brooks-planck.org/DatsunDiaries/compmanual3.asp) -Mitch On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Brian Hollands wrote: > 205lbs/in > At least that's what I remember but I also remember the stock springs to be > about 180lbs/in. > > ________________________________ > Brian Hollands > '69 2000 > Tampa, FL > > -----Original Message----- > > > In that discussion, it's mentioned that the stock rear leafs are rated at > 150lb/inch, but no one seems to know what the comp leafs are rated at. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mitch@brooks-planck.org > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 7 07:44:24 2009 From: "Shant Saroukhanian" To: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:27:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] light grease to replace oil in gearbox? Has anyone heard of putting in lightweight grease in the steering gearbox to replace the standard gear oil? This would certainly solve any gear box leaks.... Does anyone have any experience with this and can confirm longevity of a gearbox using this modification of lubrication? Shant 67 1600 www.detroitdatsun.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 7 08:11:49 2009 From: "Schlegel, Richard" To: "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'" Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:47:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] NEXT DATSUN RUN OR CAR SHOW Hi Rita! Check out our club website. www.SoCalROC.net It's for the SoCal Roadster Owners Club. Chris keeps it up-to-date with the latest Car shows we host and others. Take Care, Rich '68 1600 http://www.picasaweb.google.com/IAmRockinRich Member of the SoCalROC http://www.SoCalROC.org Video of SoCalROC from the 2008 Japanese Classic Car Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kkdkaRRco ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:23:05 -0700 From: "Rita Trujillo" Subject: [Roadsters] NEST DATSUN RUN OR CAR SHOW LET ME KNOW WHEN THE NEXT CAR SHOW OR RUN IS. I LIVE IN SOUTHERN CA. AROUND LOS ANGELES. Rita Trujillo ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 7 10:11:05 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Pete Peters'" , "'Datsun Roadster List'" Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:52:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stock & comp rear spring rates Comp rears are 207 lb/in. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:17 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stock & comp rear spring rates Big, interesting discussion on 311s.org regarding rear springs and mono-leaf replacements: http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10068 In that discussion, it's mentioned that the stock rear leafs are rated at 150lb/inch, but no one seems to know what the comp leafs are rated at. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:14:01 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] test [snip] Also, anybody know what the spring rate was for stock and comp rear springs? Thanks! Greg Burrows Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 7 16:30:29 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Shant Saroukhanian'" , Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:11:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] light grease to replace oil in gearbox? I've heard of it being done before, but why? Maybe just to get you back home after you find the steering box dry, but not to keep driving. Think of the concerqueces if the steering box suddenly locks up on a drive through your favorite curves? Do yourself a favor, fix it, or replace it. IMHO, Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shant Saroukhanian Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:27 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] light grease to replace oil in gearbox? Has anyone heard of putting in lightweight grease in the steering gearbox to replace the standard gear oil? This would certainly solve any gear box leaks.... Does anyone have any experience with this and can confirm longevity of a gearbox using this modification of lubrication? Shant 67 1600 www.detroitdatsun.com You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 7 20:31:52 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Shant Saroukhanian" , Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:12:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] light grease to replace oil in gearbox? Shant, I bought a used Type A box on eBay several months ago, and discovered that it was filed with lithium moly grease instead of gear oil. I was told that this had probably been done because the lower seal was leaking, and the car owner did not care to pull the box to replace the seal. Since I was replacing the original box with the used counterpart, I cleaned out the grease, replaced the seal, and filled the box with 90 weight gear oil. It does not leak. In my opinion, since grease doesn't flow like oil, grease will not maintain as good a film of lubricant between the worm gear and roller peg, but I really don't know. What I do know is Nissan designed the box for gear oil, and I trust they probably had a pretty good reason. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shant Saroukhanian" To: Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:27 AM Subject: [Roadsters] light grease to replace oil in gearbox? > Has anyone heard of putting in lightweight grease in the steering gearbox > to > replace the standard gear oil? > > > > This would certainly solve any gear box leaks.... Does anyone have any > experience with this and can confirm longevity of a gearbox using this > modification of lubrication? > > > > Shant > > 67 1600 > > www.detroitdatsun.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 7 22:01:40 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:41:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters at Mission Raceway http://formulaphoto.com/2009/07/2009-westwood50-sunday/ Couple of pictures of Datsun Roadsters at the recent Historic Races at Mission Raceway in BC. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 7 22:58:26 2009 From: michael poorboy To: , Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:34:10 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadsters at Mission Raceway Car # 13 is Guy Selle's old car. I don't recognize car #18. > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:41:20 -0700 > From: drlsmith@dccnet.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters at Mission Raceway > > http://formulaphoto.com/2009/07/2009-westwood50-sunday/ > > Couple of pictures of Datsun Roadsters at the recent Historic Races at Mission Raceway in BC. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsterx@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-HM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 8 12:32:39 2009 From: "Ed Mitchell" To: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:01:32 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Dead Betty - LIVES! Well.Finally. Wanted to thank all of you guys and gals who held my hand thru this madness. but she's finally running.3.5 years later.maiden voyage was successful.no dieing in the desert and leaving me stranded.no long walks home with my head held oh so low I'm off to get an alignment tues :-) Thanks to all 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG Ed Mitchell Las Cruces New Mexico ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 8 12:57:13 2009 From: Eddie To: Ed Mitchell Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:39:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Dead Betty - LIVES! Congrats! Ed Mitchell wrote: > Well.Finally. > > > > Wanted to thank all of you guys and gals who held my hand thru this madness. > > > > but she's finally running.3.5 years later.maiden voyage was successful.no > dieing in the desert and leaving me stranded.no long walks home with my head > held oh so low > > > > I'm off to get an alignment tues :-) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all > > > > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 > > > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG > > > > > > Ed Mitchell > > Las Cruces New Mexico > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 8 17:13:34 2009 From: Patti Dwinell To: Ed Mitchell Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Dead Betty - LIVES! Congratulations, Ed!!! What are you going to call her now?....."Lively Betty"? Patti ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 8 22:50:08 2009 From: Ritchie Labate To: Datsun Roadster blog Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Testing the AM radio I just want to make sure I've connected everything correctly with a newly acquired, original Toshiba AM radio for my '68 2000. Connected the blue wire from harness to blue wire from radio (has inline 2a fuse). Attached a black wire to the back of radio by screw as a ground. Connected the 2 white speaker wires to one external speaker to test. A backlight came on when I powered on but no sound as I adjusted the dial. Any other suggestions? Are these Toshibas repairable if I took them to a shop? Thank you for any feedback, Ritch ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 01:05:30 2009 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:52:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Testing the AM radio Ritch, I assume you connected either an automotive antenna, or a wire into the antenna connector. AM radio's don't work will without an antenna. If that does not fix your sound problem you may have a radio with a circuit problem. Keith Williams' father has begun to repair these radios for us. If you can't get it going send Keith a note. I have a factory radio for a 67 1300 pickup that I will be testing in much the same manner as you described. If it works I will see if there is anyone interested in it. It is likely very similar to the roadster radio with a horizontal escutcheon (dial face) rather than vertical as in used in the high windsield roadsters. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/8/2009 9:42:02 PM, Ritchie Labate (rlabate@sbcglobal.net) wrote: > I just want to make sure > I've connected everything correctly with a newly acquired, original Toshiba AM radio for my '68 > 2000. > > Connected the blue wire from harness to blue wire from radio (has inline > 2a fuse). > Attached a black wire to the back of radio by screw as a ground. > Connected the 2 white speaker wires to one external speaker to test. > > A backlight came on when I powered on but no sound as I adjusted the dial. > > Any other suggestions? Are these Toshibas repairable if I took them to a > shop? > > Thank you for any feedback, > > Ritch > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 09:48:36 2009 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? Hi Listers, Does anyone know the best way to remove powder coat finish from otherwise smooth aluminum surfaces on after market wheels? I've got my eyes set on these machined deep lip wheels that have a gunmetal finish on inner spokes. My goal here is to have a shiny machined finish thru out. I'm assuming that paint remover is out as powder coating is a process. Any metal finish experts out there? Thanks, ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 11:01:48 2009 From: Toby B To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:01:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering gear lube... Yeah, actually- GM used to supply a tube of 'steering gear lubricant' for use in their older trucks- it was actually a very heavy high- pressure oil that would do exactly as you describe. It 'flowed' enough so that it would re- coat the surfaces of the worm after you turned the wheel, but not so much that it could make it out of the bottom seal. Worked great- I used it in several cars with great results. Sadly, I haven't been able to find it for years... As long as whatever you put in there is high pressure (or extreme pressure, etc) and isn't so thick that it can't flow under normal conditions, it's a whole bunch better than letting it run dry. Modern lubes are light- years better than what Nissan had when they designed the box... Toby Seattle >Subject: [Roadsters] light grease to replace oil in gearbox? >Has anyone heard of putting in lightweight grease in the steering gearbox to >replace the standard gear oil? >This would certainly solve any gear box leaks.... Does anyone have any >experience with this and can confirm longevity of a gearbox using this >modification of lubrication? >Shant ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 11:21:32 2009 From: Eddie To: Tom PRATHER Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:20:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? Sandblasting... Tom PRATHER wrote: > Hi Listers, > Does anyone know the best way to remove powder coat finish from > otherwise smooth aluminum surfaces on after market wheels? I've got my eyes > set on these machined deep lip wheels that have a gunmetal finish on inner > spokes. My goal here is to have a shiny machined finish thru out. I'm assuming > that paint remover is out as powder coating is a process. Any metal finish > experts out there? Thanks, > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 11:32:10 2009 From: Pat Horne To: Tom PRATHER Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:28:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? Tom, I know a powder coater and will ask tomorrow. Seems to me he media blasts most of his stuff. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Tom PRATHER, On 8/9/2009 10:48 AM: > Hi Listers, > Does anyone know the best way to remove powder coat finish from > otherwise smooth aluminum surfaces on after market wheels? I've got my eyes > set on these machined deep lip wheels that have a gunmetal finish on inner > spokes. My goal here is to have a shiny machined finish thru out. I'm assuming > that paint remover is out as powder coating is a process. Any metal finish > experts out there? Thanks, > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 12:47:55 2009 From: Tom PRATHER To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Powder coat removal I just found out that paint remover / gasket remover will work to remove this coating. Powder coating is basically paints/epoxys that are applied thru a different method, specifically electrostaticly. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 13:03:08 2009 From: Eddie To: Tom PRATHER Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:56:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Powder coat removal Powder coating is when the metal is "charged" and a paint in powder form is blown onto the metal. The electrostatic charge makes the powder stick to the metal. Then, the object is put in an oven and baked, where the paint powder then melts and coats the object. I'm not sure paint remover will take it off. The stuff is pretty darn durable, and one of the best ways to insure something won't rust and will look good for a long time. Give it a try, but don't be surprised if it doesn't come off, or requires a TON of elbow grease.... Eddie Tom PRATHER wrote: > I just found out that paint remover / gasket remover will work to remove this coating. Powder coating is basically paints/epoxys that are applied thru a different method, specifically electrostaticly. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 13:51:37 2009 From: David Szakovits To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:51:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] removing powder coating when i was at the powder coating shop here, i was considering getting my wheels coated and asked the question about removing. he said they use the kleen-strip aircraft remover. this is entirely hearsay, i have not done it. There are other strippers that are similar to aircraft stripper. i use a 'heavy duty' stripper from local ace hardware because it is convenient to buy and it seems to work really well. i don't pick the least expensive product though. i have used the 'aircraft remover' often and it too works well. i have not tested the 'compliant' version of aircraft remover, just the original. even with paint the way the stuff works is highly variable. some of the best paints strip the easiest, while old lacquer primer just turns to snot like goo. i have a feeling the powder coat will bubble up nicely. just guessing. djs ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 14:03:16 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Tom PRATHER Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:01:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? Eastwood sells a "Powder Coat and Paint Dissolver". It's expensive, $21 a quart, or $73 a gallon. But it's re-usable and environment-safe. Supposedly you immerse the item, or run the chemical over the item for a few minutes, then rinse with cold water. It says safe for aluminum. I haven't tried it yet, just reading from their catalog description. www.eastwood.com - item #12849 Fred - So.SF On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > Hi Listers, > Does anyone know the best way to remove powder coat > finish from > otherwise smooth aluminum surfaces on after market wheels? I've got > my eyes > set on these machined deep lip wheels that have a gunmetal finish on > inner > spokes. My goal here is to have a shiny machined finish thru out. > I'm assuming > that paint remover is out as powder coating is a process. Any metal > finish > experts out there? Thanks, ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 14:17:56 2009 From: Pat Horne To: Fred Katz Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:14:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? While on the subject of powdercoating and wheels, I asked the local fellow how he is able to coat wheels and get the coverage down in the cracks even. He says his trick is to prep the wheel, then put it in an oven and get the wheel up to melting temperature. Then he applies the powder as usual, then back in the oven for the bake. I have seen some steel wheels he did and they came out really well. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Fred Katz, On 8/9/2009 3:01 PM: > Eastwood sells a "Powder Coat and Paint Dissolver". It's expensive, > $21 a quart, or $73 a gallon. But it's re-usable and environment-safe. > Supposedly you immerse the item, or run the chemical over the item for > a few minutes, then rinse with cold water. It says safe for aluminum. > I haven't tried it yet, just reading from their catalog description. > www.eastwood.com - item #12849 > > Fred - So.SF > > On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Tom PRATHER wrote: > >> Hi Listers, >> Does anyone know the best way to remove powder coat >> finish from >> otherwise smooth aluminum surfaces on after market wheels? I've got >> my eyes >> set on these machined deep lip wheels that have a gunmetal finish on >> inner >> spokes. My goal here is to have a shiny machined finish thru out. I'm >> assuming >> that paint remover is out as powder coating is a process. Any metal >> finish >> experts out there? Thanks, > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 16:49:32 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: tom@datsun2000.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, rlabate@sbcglobal.net Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:38:41 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Testing the AM radio Ritch, Dad is indeed repairing them. We also have a few on hand to exchange. I would have to check to see if he has any vertical ones. Without an antenna is should still make static. Let me know if you are interested. keith williams ccfcccs _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b In a message dated 8/9/2009 2:03:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tom@datsun2000.com writes: Ritch, I assume you connected either an automotive antenna, or a wire into the antenna connector. AM radio's don't work will without an antenna. If that does not fix your sound problem you may have a radio with a circuit problem. Keith Williams' father has begun to repair these radios for us. If you can't get it going send Keith a note. I have a factory radio for a 67 1300 pickup that I will be testing in much the same manner as you described. If it works I will see if there is anyone interested in it. It is likely very similar to the roadster radio with a horizontal escutcheon (dial face) rather than vertical as in used in the high windsield roadsters. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 8/8/2009 9:42:02 PM, Ritchie Labate (rlabate@sbcglobal.net) wrote: > I just want to make sure > I've connected everything correctly with a newly acquired, original Toshiba AM radio for my '68 > 2000. > > Connected the blue wire from harness to blue wire from radio (has inline > 2a fuse). > Attached a black wire to the back of radio by screw as a ground. > Connected the 2 white speaker wires to one external speaker to test. > > A backlight came on when I powered on but no sound as I adjusted the dial. > > Any other suggestions? Are these Toshibas repairable if I took them to a > shop? > > Thank you for any feedback, > > Ritch > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 17:49:29 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:46:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - race weekend Sorry, no Nissans or Datsun on the track, but yesterday was the American Lemans and today was the IRL and World Cup races at MidOhio. The Lemans is the fastest I've ever seen anything lap MidOhio and early on there was some great racing but it dragged out a bit too long. IRL is fast also, but I'm not sure they can pass at all, . and it was a long race on a very hot day. But the World Cup race was great! Acura, BMW, and Mazdas, all pretty equal on the track. Lots of lead changes. Eventually one Mazda pulled away, but second place was contested by the next 4 cars the entire race! Made us forget about the heat (well the race and a big ice tea!). Biggest crowd I have ever seen in over 40 years at MidOhio, and the traffic getting out proved it. Thankfully we made up our own short cut back to my place. Thanks to my son for getting some free tickets at work (Honda) and for letting me drive his Civic SI today. Think Nissan will ever build a nice little car again? (And don't talk to me about the new SER!) Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 18:36:24 2009 From: Scott McGillivray To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:35:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid I have a 1969 1600 with 4-speed that can use a transmission fluid change. I've never done a trans fluid change. I restored the car 2 years ago and trans was the only fluid I didn't replace, so the existing is at least 15 years old. I logged about 1000 miles in last week's scorching hot weather, this week something under my feet occasionally rumbles on deceleration. I'm going to check the driveshaft bolts and change the rear-diff oil, but when it comes to the gearbox I have no clue what I'm doing... although I'm a fast learner and I have Scott Sheeler's "Datsun Roadster Book". - I don't see a trans dipstick, how do I check the gearbox oil level? How much oil should be in there? *4speed* - Is the filler bolt the one underneath on the driver's/left side? Other tips are greatly appreciated... step by step instructions are better... instructions with pictures and I'll send you a Christmas card every year. -Scott ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 19:05:56 2009 From: "E Scanlon" To: "Tom PRATHER" , Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:01:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? Kleen-Strip Aircraft Paint Remover. or POR-15 Paint Stripper. Eastwood's product is good, or so I've heard, but the exorbitant price for it... well there's cheaper stuff out there that is just as, if not more effective, and for the money.... E ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 21:33:13 2009 From: Patti Dwinell To: Scott McGillivray Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Hi, Scott! I just changed mine yesterday, and I'd never done it before either! To my knowledge, only the 1500 roadster trannys (like mine) had dip sticks. The "newer" models, I believe, are filled to the bottom of the fill hole on the side of your transmission; just like on the differencial. I'm sure someone will respond to you with better details, but it is pretty easy...remove bottom drain plug...while oil is draining, clean metal shavings from magnet on plug....reinstall plug...remove fill plug...fill with 80/90 wt gear oil. My 1500 specs say 4.6 pts. I used 4 1/2 pts, and it was too full. I had to siphon out 1/2 pt. My suggestions: stop short and don't overfill. Take it for a 15 minute drive to get it hot and then check your level. It is a lot easier to add a little oil rather than to remove a little of the stinky stuff. You'll do fine, I'm sure. Patti ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 21:48:55 2009 From: "Michael Spreadbury" To: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:42:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] NOS early Quarter Panel Wanted I am looking for a NOS (New) right side (passenger side) quarter panel for my 1964 Datsun 1500 project. 1964-66 (small flare) If you have such a beast, please e-mail me! The rest of my project is going to the acid dipper next week, and I want a new panel to go back on it when it comes back! Thanks in advance, Michael Spreadbury Spriso motorsports www.spriso.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 22:18:35 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Scott McGillivray" , Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:16:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Scott, As Patti noted, you check level with your finger in the fill hole on the driver's side of the trans. Oil should be up to the bottom of the hole. I recently had the trans in my 2000 rebuilt, and the shop recommended 75W110 AMSOil synthetic gear oil. Any severe duty gear oil of that viscosity should be fine. (I have run 85W90 regular gear oil in my 1600/U20 for years, but will probably change to synthetic when I re-install the engine and trans. Nissan manual says the 4-speed takes 2.2 liters of oil. Drain it through the bottom plug, and refill with a suction gun until oil just starts to run out of the fill hole, then put the plug in it. It's a messy operation. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott McGillivray" To: Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid >I have a 1969 1600 with 4-speed that can use a transmission fluid change. > I've never done a trans fluid change. I restored the car 2 years ago and > trans was the only fluid I didn't replace, so the existing is at least 15 > years old. I logged about 1000 miles in last week's scorching hot > weather, > this week something under my feet occasionally rumbles on deceleration. > > I'm going to check the driveshaft bolts and change the rear-diff oil, but > when it comes to the gearbox I have no clue what I'm doing... although I'm > a > fast learner and I have Scott Sheeler's "Datsun Roadster Book". > > - I don't see a trans dipstick, how do I check the gearbox oil level? How > much oil should be in there? *4speed* > - Is the filler bolt the one underneath on the driver's/left side? > > Other tips are greatly appreciated... step by step instructions are > better... instructions with pictures and I'll send you a Christmas card > every year. > > -Scott > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 9 22:48:52 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" , "'Scott McGillivray'" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:41:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Everything Patti & Gary said, but... before you drain out the old, make sure you can open the fill plug! Much easier than flipping the car over to refill through the drain plug! All and all, not a hard job to do. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Scott, As Patti noted, you check level with your finger in the fill hole on the driver's side of the trans. Oil should be up to the bottom of the hole. I recently had the trans in my 2000 rebuilt, and the shop recommended 75W110 AMSOil synthetic gear oil. Any severe duty gear oil of that viscosity should be fine. (I have run 85W90 regular gear oil in my 1600/U20 for years, but will probably change to synthetic when I re-install the engine and trans. Nissan manual says the 4-speed takes 2.2 liters of oil. Drain it through the bottom plug, and refill with a suction gun until oil just starts to run out of the fill hole, then put the plug in it. It's a messy operation. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott McGillivray" >I have a 1969 1600 with 4-speed that can use a transmission fluid change. > I've never done a trans fluid change. I restored the car 2 years ago and > trans was the only fluid I didn't replace, so the existing is at least 15 > years old. I logged about 1000 miles in last week's scorching hot > weather, > this week something under my feet occasionally rumbles on deceleration. > > I'm going to check the driveshaft bolts and change the rear-diff oil, but > when it comes to the gearbox I have no clue what I'm doing... although I'm > a > fast learner and I have Scott Sheeler's "Datsun Roadster Book". > > - I don't see a trans dipstick, how do I check the gearbox oil level? How > much oil should be in there? *4speed* > - Is the filler bolt the one underneath on the driver's/left side? > > Other tips are greatly appreciated... step by step instructions are > better... instructions with pictures and I'll send you a Christmas card > every year. > > -Scott ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 00:03:10 2009 From: Scott McGillivray To: Paul <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:52:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Awesome, thanks for the help Paul x 2, Patti, and Gary. Good to hear it's a straight forward task. My dad couldn't find left-handed tools so I received zero handyman training as a kid... I never knew half these tools had been invented. I will pick up a suction gun tomorrow and thanks Paul for the reminder to loosen the fill plug first. Old oil is better than no oil :) -Scott Maple Ridge, British Columbia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott McGillivray" > > >I have a 1969 1600 with 4-speed that can use a transmission fluid change. > > I've never done a trans fluid change. I restored the car 2 years ago and > > trans was the only fluid I didn't replace, so the existing is at least 15 > > years old. I logged about 1000 miles in last week's scorching hot > > weather, > > this week something under my feet occasionally rumbles on deceleration. > > > > I'm going to check the driveshaft bolts and change the rear-diff oil, but > > when it comes to the gearbox I have no clue what I'm doing... although > I'm > > > a > > fast learner and I have Scott Sheeler's "Datsun Roadster Book". > > > > - I don't see a trans dipstick, how do I check the gearbox oil level? > How > > much oil should be in there? *4speed* > > - Is the filler bolt the one underneath on the driver's/left side? > > > > Other tips are greatly appreciated... step by step instructions are > > better... instructions with pictures and I'll send you a Christmas card > > every year. > > > > -Scott ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 04:52:13 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: "'Tom PRATHER'" , Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:51:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? Methylene Chloride. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom PRATHER Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? Hi Listers, Does anyone know the best way to remove powder coat finish from otherwise smooth aluminum surfaces on after market wheels? I've got my eyes set on these machined deep lip wheels that have a gunmetal finish on inner spokes. My goal here is to have a shiny machined finish thru out. I'm assuming that paint remover is out as powder coating is a process. Any metal finish experts out there? Thanks, You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 05:04:56 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: "'Scott McGillivray'" , "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:56:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Use only GL-4 gear oil. The newer GL-5 oils will eat your syncros. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 06:50:44 2009 From: Dan Kroninger To: Datsun Mailing List Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:44:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Testing the AM radio Ritch, I had my Toshiba radio rebuilt by Keith's dad, and it works great now. I also purchased a Redi-rad adapter through the following website: http://www.rediscoveradio.com/, on the recommendation of Patti. The adapter plugs into your antenna cable in the radio and allows you to plug in an ipod or similar device. The single speaker under the dash doesn't exactly POUND out the tunes, but it does OK. I highly recommend both Keith's dad and the the Redi-Rad. Dan. > Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:42:02 -0700 > From: rlabate@sbcglobal.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Testing the AM radio > > I just want to make sure I've connected everything correctly with a newly acquired, original Toshiba AM radio for my '68 2000. > > Connected the blue wire from harness to blue wire from radio (has inline 2a fuse). > Attached a black wire to the back of radio by screw as a ground. > Connected the 2 white speaker wires to one external speaker to test. > > A backlight came on when I powered on but no sound as I adjusted the dial. > Any other suggestions? Are these Toshibas repairable if I took them to a shop? > > Thank you for any feedback, > > Ritch _________________________________________________________________ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US :SI_PH_software:082009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 08:06:39 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: scottmcg@gmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:04:50 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Always remove the filler plug before removing the drain plug. Drain plugs are easy to get out but sometimes filler plugs are impossible. This can lead to some colorful language. keith williams ccfcccs _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b In a message dated 8/10/2009 6:10:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, scottmcg@gmail.com writes: I have a 1969 1600 with 4-speed that can use a transmission fluid change. I've never done a trans fluid change. I restored the car 2 years ago and trans was the only fluid I didn't replace, so the existing is at least 15 years old. I logged about 1000 miles in last week's scorching hot weather, this week something under my feet occasionally rumbles on deceleration. I'm going to check the driveshaft bolts and change the rear-diff oil, but when it comes to the gearbox I have no clue what I'm doing... although I'm a fast learner and I have Scott Sheeler's "Datsun Roadster Book". - I don't see a trans dipstick, how do I check the gearbox oil level? How much oil should be in there? *4speed* - Is the filler bolt the one underneath on the driver's/left side? Other tips are greatly appreciated... step by step instructions are better... instructions with pictures and I'll send you a Christmas card every year. -Scott You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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Thank you. 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 08:36:27 2009 From: Dan Kroninger To: Datsun Mailing List Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:36:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: test I got it! > From: barterdude@comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:26:36 -0600 > Subject: [Roadsters] test > > Tried sending twice and nothing showed. > > > > Cheers -- Gary Lasater _________________________________________________________________ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-HM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 09:04:50 2009 From: "barterdude" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:55:16 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] WyCROC's 10th anniversary All we can say is WOW. This is the first time in the WyCROC history, that we had a total of 24 Roadster's show up for an event. The event started early Saturday morning with Eric Frisbee, Dan Neff and Gary Lasater (original founder's) meeting at Gary's house. AJ Lasater, now 18 and driving his own 1600 join the group and we headed off to the original meeting place, the Castle Rock McDonald's. We had a total of 8 roadster's meeting at the first stop on the road to Greeley. Our first early Z from the ZRoad group (a mixture of early Z's from 1970 to '78 and roadsters) joined us at the starting point too. Next, we all cruised up I-25 to meet the central roadster owners at Brooklyn's near the Pepsi Center in downtown. To our surprise, we meet another 9 roadster owners to bring our ranks to 17. That took the breath away, since our previous record was 13 roadsters at one event. Unfortunately, we had a couple that had previous commitments and were unable to make the trip to Greeley. Additionally we had invited our newer (at least to us) brethren, the early Z's, and we had several more Z car's join us at Brooklyn's. Our next stop was the McDonald's in Brighton where we picked a couple more roadsters and Z cars. Unfortunately we had a causality with one of the 1600's apparently overheated on the way and cracked his block and had a rather large quantity of water flowing out of the exhaust pipe and on the ground. But, he took it in stride using this as excuse to upgrade and talk about options leaning towards a KA conversion. We finally arrived at Erlich's Nissan in Greeley shortly after noon to meet up with the northern contingent and after everyone arrived found parking spots we ended up with 20 Roadsters, 8 early Z's and 3 late model Z's for a showing of 31. Erlich graciously sponsored a BBQ and gave out awards for early and late roadsters, Z cars, People's Choice and Dealer's Choice. Finally, we would like to thank our original Founder's for coming out 10 years ago and starting up a rag-tag bunch of roadster enthusiasts. (From left to right) Eric Frisbee, Dan Neff, Gary Lasater, Gary Boone, and Greg Nelson were able to make the show. Eric drove 1000 miles towing his '70 Blue 2000 (the original 1600 didn't make the trip but he still has it). Dan unfortunately is without a roadster right now but we're working on getting him back with one, but for the event, he drove Gary Lasater's yellow and black '69 2000. Gary Lasater brought his 1500 from the original meet along with his son driving his '70 1600. Gary Boone brought his newly working EFI blue 2000 ready for the race track again. Greg Nelson's roadster is being put back together after some much needed repairs are being done. Unfortunately, Mike Koken and his car was unable to make the event. Cheers -- Gary Lasater ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 10:21:26 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Excellent advice. Napa's in-house gear oil is GL-4. Freshly rebuilt trans can use Redline. Nobody mentioned it's tight where the fill plug is. Doable, but just wanted to give ya a heads up. Have fun. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Cost" To: "Scott McGillivray" , "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:56:27 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Use only GL-4 gear oil. The newer GL-5 oils will eat your syncros. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 11:08:01 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:05:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: FW: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of ------ Forwarded Message From: Bob Haug Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:51:57 -0700 To: "Gregory S. Morrison" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of town) Oh, No original engine or trany either. Has a newer 70s 1600 engine or somethig like that in there. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] FW: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of town) > These are near Spokane WA. I don't know anything else about them. Hope > this > helps someone on the List. > -Greg > SRL31100494 > > > ------ Forwarded Message > From: "Smith, Aaron T" > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:17:18 -0700 > To: "Gregory S. Morrison" > Conversation: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of town) > Subject: RE: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of town) > > Here are a couple of pictures. The car is definitely a project. Aaron > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory S. Morrison [mailto:gsm@gregorysmorrison.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:32 AM > To: sale-dtmhp-1308213018@craigslist.org > Subject: 1967 datsun 2000 roadster - $5000 (north of town) > > ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY > ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home > ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping > ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html > > > > http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1308213018.html > > > Please email pictures. Don't need many, just enough to see what you've > got > for sale. Thanks. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > this message was remailed to you via: > sale-dtmhp-1308213018@craigslist.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which > had a name of DCP06627.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which > had a name of DCP06628.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which > had a name of DCP06629.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which > had a name of DCP06631.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which > had a name of DCP06634.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which > had a name of DCP06632.JPG] > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as haugchiro@moscow.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ------ End of Forwarded Message ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 12:06:55 2009 From: Patti Dwinell To: Andy Cost Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid...UH OH Only GL-4 !!!??? The newer GL-5 oils will eat my syncros!!??? I just checked the fine print on my bottle of Valvoline 80/90wt gear oil... that I just used!!... and it's GL-5. My specs say "GX", but my research revealed that it's an obsolete code. The older gentleman at "Orange Engine" concured it's obsolete, and recommended this Valvoline, stating it was the equivalent. Is there a difference in what to use between the 1500 and 1600s? I've used GL-5 in my differencial and steering box, too. Now what? Do I need to remove all the GL-5 from my car? Do I have to flush? and if so, with what? Yikes! I guess I should have known that this wouldn't be straight forward. Patti --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Andy Cost wrote: From: Andy Cost Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid To: "'Scott McGillivray'" , "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net> Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:56 AM Use only GL-4 gear oil. The newer GL-5 oils will eat your syncros. ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 12:30:27 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: Patti Dwinell Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid...UH OH >From an internet post.B B "We asked Valvoline if it was ok to use their DuraBlend Gear Oil (a GL5 oil) in a Nissan 240sx manual transmission that requires GL4 spec oil. They replied with this: " "Absolutely, all Valvoline Gear Oils can be used for both GL4 and GL5. The concern is the type of sulfate used in the gear oil, as you can not use an active sulfate for GL-4 applications. Valvoline uses an inactive sulfate that will not harm any yellow metal such as bronze. This allows our products to be used in manual transmissions that have bronze synchronizers." You might want to write to Valvoline. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Dwinell" To: "Andy Cost" Cc: "All list" Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:43:26 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid...UH OH Only GL-4 !!!???B The newer GL-5 oils will eat my syncros!!??? IB just checked the fine print on my bottle of Valvoline 80/90wt gear oil... that I just used!!... and it's GL-5.B My specs say "GX", but my research revealed that it's an obsolete code.B The older gentleman at "Orange Engine" concured it's obsolete,B and recommended this Valvoline, stating it was the equivalent.B Is there a difference in what to use between the 1500 and 1600s? I've used GL-5 in my differencial and steering box, too. Now what?B Do I need to remove all the GL-5 from my car? Do I have to flush? and if so, with what? Yikes!B I guess I should have known that this wouldn't be straight forward. Patti --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Andy Cost wrote: From: Andy Cost Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid To: "'Scott McGillivray'" , "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net> Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:56 AM Use only GL-4 gear oil.B The newer GL-5 oils will eat your syncros. ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 12:47:04 2009 From: "MH" To: "Andy Cost" , "'Scott McGillivray'" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:10:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid I thought the GL-4 was recommended for safe use in transmissions using brass or "yellow metal" synchros, such as the Borg-Warner 4-speed, and that the GL-5 was safe for the steel synchro'd 4 & 5-speeds. ???? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Cost" To: "'Scott McGillivray'" ; "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net> Cc: Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid > Use only GL-4 gear oil. The newer GL-5 oils will eat your syncros. > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 12:54:38 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid...UH OH GL-5 is -NOT- equivalent to GL-4. Just Google for all the lovely GL-4 vs GL-5 discussions. Unfortunately, many uninformed parts folks will say you can use GL-5 in place of GL-4. From my reading, they're big time W-R-O-N-G. GL-5 is specified and okay for the rear end/differential, but you want GL-4 for the tranny. I'm no expert, but I would drain the GL-5 from the tranny, refill with GL-4, put a hundred miles or so on it, drain/fill with GL-4 again, and sleep soundly. Experts? Bueller? Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Dwinell" To: "Andy Cost" Cc: "All list" Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:43:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid...UH OH Only GL-4 !!!??? The newer GL-5 oils will eat my syncros!!??? I just checked the fine print on my bottle of Valvoline 80/90wt gear oil... that I just used!!... and it's GL-5. My specs say "GX", but my research revealed that it's an obsolete code. The older gentleman at "Orange Engine" concured it's obsolete, and recommended this Valvoline, stating it was the equivalent. Is there a difference in what to use between the 1500 and 1600s? I've used GL-5 in my differencial and steering box, too. Now what? Do I need to remove all the GL-5 from my car? Do I have to flush? and if so, with what? Yikes! I guess I should have known that this wouldn't be straight forward. Patti --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Andy Cost wrote: From: Andy Cost Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid To: "'Scott McGillivray'" , "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net> Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:56 AM Use only GL-4 gear oil. The newer GL-5 oils will eat your syncros. ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 12:56:41 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] FS: 1969 SRL311-10351 (no engine/trans) near Olympia, WA Posted on list per seller's request. Don't know seller or the car: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1315850938.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 14:24:51 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'Gary and Cindy Ault'" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:05:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Very good advice! Almost got stranded that way once myself. When putting the plug back in, either use some anti-seize or wrap some Teflon tape around the plug. Steel plug plus aluminum casing = frozen plug. Same thing that happens with R16 thermostat housing studs. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:41 PM To: 'Gary and Cindy Ault'; 'Scott McGillivray'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Changing transmission fluid Everything Patti & Gary said, but... before you drain out the old, make sure you can open the fill plug! Much easier than flipping the car over to refill through the drain plug! All and all, not a hard job to do. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Scott, As Patti noted, you check level with your finger in the fill hole on the driver's side of the trans. Oil should be up to the bottom of the hole. I recently had the trans in my 2000 rebuilt, and the shop recommended 75W110 AMSOil synthetic gear oil. Any severe duty gear oil of that viscosity should be fine. (I have run 85W90 regular gear oil in my 1600/U20 for years, but will probably change to synthetic when I re-install the engine and trans. Nissan manual says the 4-speed takes 2.2 liters of oil. Drain it through the bottom plug, and refill with a suction gun until oil just starts to run out of the fill hole, then put the plug in it. It's a messy operation. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott McGillivray" >I have a 1969 1600 with 4-speed that can use a transmission fluid change. > I've never done a trans fluid change. I restored the car 2 years ago and > trans was the only fluid I didn't replace, so the existing is at least 15 > years old. I logged about 1000 miles in last week's scorching hot > weather, > this week something under my feet occasionally rumbles on deceleration. > > I'm going to check the driveshaft bolts and change the rear-diff oil, but > when it comes to the gearbox I have no clue what I'm doing... although I'm > a > fast learner and I have Scott Sheeler's "Datsun Roadster Book". > > - I don't see a trans dipstick, how do I check the gearbox oil level? How > much oil should be in there? *4speed* > - Is the filler bolt the one underneath on the driver's/left side? > > Other tips are greatly appreciated... step by step instructions are > better... instructions with pictures and I'll send you a Christmas card > every year. > > -Scott Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 15:42:38 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:33:49 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Car Cover fitment Anyone have one of these car covers for your roadster? They sell them on e-bay & claim many roadster owners have purchased their covers. They show the bumper to bumper length of 14.17 FEET for both their y2 & t2 covers. I measure my roadster at closer to 12 1/2 feet. I'm looking for a nice fitting cover, the old one I have right now falls off as its too big. www.AutoArmourCovers.com - Datsun Fairlady 1600 2000 Roadster Car Cover y2 - CAR COVER - Datsun Fairlady 1600 2000 Roadster t2 -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 19:14:14 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Andy Cost" , "'Tom PRATHER'" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:46:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? Be careful with that stuff -- it's a carcinogen. I'd stick with oneof theother products manufactured for removing powder coat. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Cost" To: "'Tom PRATHER'" ; Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? > Methylene Chloride. > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom PRATHER > Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:48 AM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? > > Hi Listers, > Does anyone know the best way to remove powder coat finish > from > otherwise smooth aluminum surfaces on after market wheels? I've got my > eyes > set on these machined deep lip wheels that have a gunmetal finish on inner > spokes. My goal here is to have a shiny machined finish thru out. I'm > assuming > that paint remover is out as powder coating is a process. Any metal finish > experts out there? Thanks, > You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 19:42:25 2009 From: Pat Horne To: Gary and Cindy Ault Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:15:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? I checked with the local powder coater today and he uses aircraft remover. It takes 3-4 passes with the stuff. When he can, he uses sand blasting. For fine work he uses what he called "sugar sand". Peace, Pat Thusly spake Gary and Cindy Ault, On 8/10/2009 7:46 PM: > Be careful with that stuff -- it's a carcinogen. I'd stick with oneof > theother products manufactured for removing powder coat. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Cost" > To: "'Tom PRATHER'" ; > > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? > > >> Methylene Chloride. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom >> PRATHER >> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:48 AM >> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Removing powder coat? >> >> Hi Listers, >> Does anyone know the best way to remove powder coat finish >> from >> otherwise smooth aluminum surfaces on after market wheels? I've got >> my eyes >> set on these machined deep lip wheels that have a gunmetal finish on >> inner >> spokes. My goal here is to have a shiny machined finish thru out. I'm >> assuming >> that paint remover is out as powder coating is a process. Any metal >> finish >> experts out there? Thanks, >> You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 20:30:34 2009 From: Andrew Murphy To: Roadster List Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:03:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 1600 For Sale in NC All, I don't often forward cars for sale advertisements, but in this case I am biased because I am a big fan of the 66 1600 (I own one) Sometimes there are cars for sale where the owner is shall we say -enthusiastic - about the asking price and this one seems fair if the car is as nice as the pics show and has no hidden problems. It is in North Carolina and I know the East Coasters have a harder time finding good cars than those of us out West. So I hope someone has a look at this car and maybe it will go to a good home. http://www.autotraderclassics.com/find/vehicle/vehicleDetail.xhtml?adId=15663 0&conversationId=53725 Take Care, Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 SoCAL _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackTo School_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 21:45:15 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Andrew Murphy , Roadster List Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:24:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1966 1600 For Sale in NC Looks very nice for the most part. Some 'creative' wiring near the alternator, and piping/hoses at the drivers fenderwell........ Daryl (With some 'creative' wiring under the hood......) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Murphy" > All, > I don't often forward cars for sale advertisements, but in this case I am > biased because I am a big fan of the 66 1600 (I own one) > Sometimes there are cars for sale where the owner is shall we say > -enthusiastic - about the asking price and this one seems fair if the car > is > as nice as the pics show and has no hidden problems. > > It is in North Carolina and I know the East Coasters have a harder time > finding good cars than those of us out West. So I hope someone has a look > at > this car and maybe it will go to a good home. > > http://www.autotraderclassics.com/find/vehicle/vehicleDetail.xhtml?adId=15663 > 0&conversationId=53725 > > Take Care, > Andrew Murphy > 1966 1600 > SoCAL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 22:27:45 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:59:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Composite Leaf Springs - Group Buy Just to update those interested in the composite spring, I am going to order my set tomorrow, and when it gets here and installed we will have a reference for everyone else to order from as far as ride height and rating. Hopefully within 3 weeks. Damn I hate waiting......... I have sent a couple more questions in and will post the answers when I recieve them, as well as a clarification on the 'feel' vs rating. Cheers Daryl '66 1800cc EFI Stroker, 5 spd. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 10 22:42:28 2009 From: "oliver" To: "Datsun Mailing List" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:06:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Testing the AM radio i would totally recommend keith's dad! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Kroninger" To: "Datsun Mailing List" Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:44 AM Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Testing the AM radio > Ritch, > > > > I had my Toshiba radio rebuilt by Keith's dad, and it works great now. I > also > purchased a Redi-rad adapter through the following website: > http://www.rediscoveradio.com/, on the recommendation of Patti. The > adapter > plugs into your antenna cable in the radio and allows you to plug in an > ipod > or similar device. The single speaker under the dash doesn't exactly > POUND > out the tunes, but it does OK. I highly recommend both Keith's dad and > the > the Redi-Rad. > > > > Dan. > >> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:42:02 -0700 >> From: rlabate@sbcglobal.net >> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Testing the AM radio >> >> I just want to make sure I've connected everything correctly with a newly > acquired, original Toshiba AM radio for my '68 2000. >> >> Connected the blue wire from harness to blue wire from radio (has inline >> 2a > fuse). >> Attached a black wire to the back of radio by screw as a ground. >> Connected the 2 white speaker wires to one external speaker to test. >> >> A backlight came on when I powered on but no sound as I adjusted the >> dial. >> Any other suggestions? Are these Toshibas repairable if I took them to a > shop? >> >> Thank you for any feedback, >> >> Ritch ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 12 10:13:56 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:46:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Very nice 1970 2000 for sale Here's another one for sale on CraigsList/Spokane, WA. The reference number is 1318033354. Unlike the parts cars and rolling hulks that have been recently listed, this one looks really, really nice. Hope this is what someone out there is looking for. Greg SRL31100494 Spokane, WA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 12 11:59:18 2009 From: Dan Kroninger To: Datsun Mailing List Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:32:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Very nice 1970 2000 for sale This looks like a '69 based on the teardrops and chrome ring turn signal lights. http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1318033354.html > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:46:05 -0700 > From: gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Very nice 1970 2000 for sale > > Here's another one for sale on CraigsList/Spokane, WA. The reference number > is 1318033354. Unlike the parts cars and rolling hulks that have been > recently listed, this one looks really, really nice. Hope this is what > someone out there is looking for. > > Greg > SRL31100494 > Spokane, WA _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail.. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391:: T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 12 12:33:57 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Dan Kroninger , Datsun Mailing List Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:17:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Very nice 1970 2000 for sale Correct. I spoke with the owner - curiosity got the best of me - and he confirmed it was a '69 that was initially sold/titled in 1970. Also note the "PRE-Z" personalized plate. On 8/12/09 10:32 AM, "Dan Kroninger" wrote: > This looks like a '69 based on the teardrops and chrome ring turn signal > lights. > > > > http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1318033354.html > >> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:46:05 -0700 >> From: gsm@gregorysmorrison.com >> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Very nice 1970 2000 for sale >> >> Here's another one for sale on CraigsList/Spokane, WA. The reference number >> is 1318033354. Unlike the parts cars and rolling hulks that have been >> recently listed, this one looks really, really nice. Hope this is what >> someone out there is looking for. >> >> Greg >> SRL31100494 >> Spokane, WA > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail.. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391:: > T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gsm@gregorysmorrison.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 12 19:30:35 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:05:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] fuel pump questions After adding the banjo bolt screens, a new fuel filter, and the proper size fuel lines, I had the 2000 out this evening. She ran strong, up to 90 mph before I ran out of straight road. No sign of the issue from a few weekends ago that stranded me. I didn't get the best fuel pump output when spinning the motor to test the pump, but the float bowls are now more full than when she stranded me last month. Does any one have pictures of a bad diaphragm and can any send me a picture of a good diaphragm? Can I assume the fuel pump valves go bad as well? If I end up needing any of these bits, who sells them? Are they available "after market" and how do you all know about/find out about any parts that are still available aftermarket? TIA Currently with two running Roadsters but one might have a weak fuel pump. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 12 19:57:41 2009 From: "Graeme" To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:09:25 +0930 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] fuel pump questions I think you'll find that the rebuild kit for "L" series engines fuel pump is suitable for the Roadster pumps. You get a new diaphragm and two new one way valves. The Roadster pump is almost identical to the L series barring perhaps the actuating arm and placement of the fuel inlet/outlet. "If I end up needing any of these bits, who sells them? Are they available "after market" and how do you all know about/find out about any parts that are still available aftermarket?" ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 12 20:57:32 2009 From: "Graeme" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:02:48 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: fuel pump questions I think you'll find that the rebuild kit for "L" series engines fuel pump is suitable for the Roadster pumps. You get a new diaphragm and two new one way valves. The Roadster pump is almost identical to the L series barring perhaps the actuating arm and placement of the fuel inlet/outlet. See ebay item #360179472278 "If I end up needing any of these bits, who sells them? Are they available "after market" and how do you all know about/find out about any parts that are still available aftermarket?" You are subscribed as graemes@internode.on.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.51/2297 - Release Date: 08/12/09 18:12:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 00:27:27 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Dan Kroninger" , "Datsun Mailing List" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:08:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: Very nice 1970 2000 for sale Dan, Good eye. It was probably sold in 1970 and registered as a '70. Very common in those days, but it's probably a '69 model all right. TO tell for sure, you'd need to examine other aspects of the car to see if it is a hybrid '69-'70. That happened, too, although more commonly with earlier models. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Kroninger" To: "Datsun Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Very nice 1970 2000 for sale > This looks like a '69 based on the teardrops and chrome ring turn signal > lights. > > > > http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/1318033354.html > >> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:46:05 -0700 >> From: gsm@gregorysmorrison.com >> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Very nice 1970 2000 for sale >> >> Here's another one for sale on CraigsList/Spokane, WA. The reference >> number >> is 1318033354. Unlike the parts cars and rolling hulks that have been >> recently listed, this one looks really, really nice. Hope this is what >> someone out there is looking for. >> >> Greg >> SRL31100494 >> Spokane, WA > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail.. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391:: > T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 01:26:47 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Datsun Roadsters Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:09:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] craigslist ad wants parts Hey check out this roadster on craigslist, belong to anyone on the list? Car isn't for sale, the guy needs parts. 69 1600 race car with a 300zx turbo and Ford rear end. I think it looks wicked. Maybe I'll give him some parts just to see the beast. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/pts/1317825536.html Fred - So.SF ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 05:58:24 2009 From: To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 7:40:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Question: Alternator Removal from Driver Side Engine I have to remove the alternator from my 66 and it is located on the bottom side of the engine on the driver's side. I tried to get to the bolts and could not get to them without starting to think about taking things apart. Seems like I remember some dialogue on this a while back so if anyone can give me the low down on how to accomplish it, what I have to remove, a link to a tech page, etc. I would appreciate it. I am hoping I do not have to go as far as to remove the water pump, so any input is welcome so I can get back on the road. Thanks David 66 1600 67.5 1600 parts car (minus some parts and now the alternator) 70 1600 (still down to the frame and sitting as parts in my garage) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 06:28:52 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: datsundawg@sc.rr.com Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:10:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Question: Alternator Removal from Driver Side David, I just did an alternator swap 2 weeks ago on my 68 1600. It was fairly easy to do. I too thought it would be difficult to get to the lower bolt without removing a bunch of stuff. Here's how I did it. I removed the hood & front grill, then removed the radiator shroud. This is where I did a little extra work...I then removed the entire radiator, it came out in 5 minutes, very easy. Then removed the fan blade. This gave me extremely easy access to the lower alternator bolt. I had the thing out in a few minutes. I later learned from a post on this e-mail forum that removing the radiator is unnesessary, just remove the fan shroud & the fan blade to gain access to the lower bolt. Oh well, removing the radiatior gave me a chance to further understand the workings of my car & boosted my confidence in my mechanical abilities. I'm by no means a mechanic, but I consider myself mechanical. Anyways, good luck, I think this is an easy project for any roadster owner to do themselves. Oh, and removing the water pump is not required at all. I snapped a few photos as I was doing the project, let me know if you want them & I'll post them for you. -Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:40 AM, wrote: > I have to remove the alternator from my 66 and it is located on the bottom > side of the engine on the driver's side. I tried to get to the bolts and > could not get to them without starting to think about taking things apart. > Seems like I remember some dialogue on this a while back so if anyone can > give me the low down on how to accomplish it, what I have to remove, a link > to a tech page, etc. I would appreciate it. I am hoping I do not have to go > as far as to remove the water pump, so any input is welcome so I can get > back on the road. > > Thanks > David > 66 1600 > 67.5 1600 parts car (minus some parts and now the alternator) > 70 1600 (still down to the frame and sitting as parts in my garage) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cookefam314@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 11:16:19 2009 From: chalsted@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen- need contact info Elaine and I are getting ready to send out a newsletter regarding the Roadsters at the Glen next month... we have a list from DRONE that we've combined with a list from the 2002 participants but it feels like there are a bunch of names we don't have. if you're on the list and would like info on coming to the Glen, please drop me an e-mail with your name and address ASAP as we plan to get the letters out in the next couple days. saturday evening's get together will be up at Hazlitt same as last year- we thought about having them provide food but have no idea how many folks would be into that so hard to get a price. hope to hear from you and see you there.B any vendors who would like to donate raffle items, please give me a call or send me an e-mail. 540-635-5752 Craig Halsted ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 16:34:05 2009 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:16:18 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? Baffled by the dizzying array of loctite products I thought I'd ask which number people like. I know there'll be someone on the list to explain their belief that 4203 is best for areas of the car that have heat, another number is good for heads and areas with oil and . . . but since I call it a good day when I can find my 12 mm wrench in my tool chest I'd like to stick to one bottle -- if possible. Thoughts '69 U20 SU, Headless. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 17:18:45 2009 From: steven boortz To: roadsters Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] oil pressure guage hi everyone i'm trying to fix some things on my roadster before heading to the track again. to that end, i'm thinking of replacing my stock oil pressure guage. i had some funny readings the last time on track and wish to see what the real deal is. i've heard mechanical guages are better for track use. does anyone know what size is the hole in the block into which the sending unit is threaded? thank you in advance steve 675MIZU ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 17:33:56 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? 242 (Blue) if I want to take it apart 271 (Red) if I don't Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:16:18 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? Baffled by the dizzying array of loctite products I thought I'd ask which number people like. I know there'll be someone on the list to explain their belief that 4203 is best for areas of the car that have heat, another number is good for heads and areas with oil and . . . but since I call it a good day when I can find my 12 mm wrench in my tool chest I'd like to stick to one bottle -- if possible. Thoughts '69 U20 SU, Headless. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 17:50:10 2009 From: Eddie To: steven boortz Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:26:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pressure guage Steve, I actually dealt with this very issue, and you should read the following which was also posted on the 311 site. Oil pressure 2-5/8"-connected directly to block /after using the correct adapter./ The block is threaded for British Thread, (28 teeth per inch). Most aftermarket gauges come with American Thread fittings (27 teeth per inch) You can buy the correct adapter from http://www.mcmaster.com/#4860K141 McMaster-Carr for around $5.00. When I did mine I re-threaded the block for American standard threads. It is probably better result using the adapter. Eddie steven boortz wrote: > hi everyone > i'm trying to fix some things on my roadster before heading to the track again. to that end, i'm thinking of replacing my stock oil pressure guage. i had some funny readings the last time on track and wish to see what the real deal is. i've heard mechanical guages are better for track use. does anyone know what size is the hole in the block into which the sending unit is threaded? > thank you in advance > steve 675MIZU > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 17:50:26 2009 From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:27:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? I use the "blue" semi-permanent product on laptop computer screws and ice hockey skate blade retaining screws... - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex, various Thinkpads, CCM Pro Tacks... nmleeds@mindspring.com wrote: > Baffled by the dizzying array of loctite products I thought I'd ask which number people like. I know there'll be someone on the list to explain their belief that 4203 is best for areas of the car that have heat, another number is good for heads and areas with oil and . . . but since I call it a good day when I can find my 12 mm wrench in my tool chest I'd like to stick to one bottle -- if possible. > > Thoughts > > '69 U20 SU, Headless. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 18:05:29 2009 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: "Pete Peters" , Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:48:14 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? And green if you want to put it on after assembly Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Pete Peters Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:06:54 To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? 242 (Blue) if I want to take it apart 271 (Red) if I don't Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:16:18 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? Baffled by the dizzying array of loctite products I thought I'd ask which number people like. I know there'll be someone on the list to explain their belief that 4203 is best for areas of the car that have heat, another number is good for heads and areas with oil and . . . but since I call it a good day when I can find my 12 mm wrench in my tool chest I'd like to stick to one bottle -- if possible. Thoughts '69 U20 SU, Headless. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 19:49:40 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:26:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pressure guage Steve, I don't trust 40 year old gauges or sending units, plus the small gauges in my '70 are hard to read at a glance anyway, so I added AutoMeter 2 5/8 Phantom series mechanical water temp and oil pressure gauges. I mounted them in a two gauge plate on the passenger side of the dash support at the front on the console. I like the gig gauges and the 270 sweep because it lets you just glance down to see if the needles are in the correct area. You seldom need to actually read them. That said, the car seldom gets above 190, even on the hottest days here in central Texas (Lord knows we've had more than our share of those this year), and the hot idle oil pressure is a solid 10 to 12 psi. Try reading that on a stock style gauge! If I decide to keep the car and redo it I've considered building a custom flat dash modeled on the early car but using modern, accurate gauges. IIRC, the oil pressure gauge came with several compression fitting and one screwed right in. I was getting ready to drill and tap the thermostat housing for the mechanical water temp sensor and asked the manger at the local O'Reilly's if he had any adapters. He had a couple sets from a company called Equus (iequus.com). A set with smaller fitting like you need for oils and a larger set which included a piece that let me just screw in the water temp probe into the original hole. Either set is under $10, IIRC. All that said, you might be starving your engine for oil. In high G turns the oil might literally be pushed against the side of the pan leaving the pick up sucking air. Not a desirable circumstance. Regardless you need good, accurate gauges. HTH, Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 13 20:23:58 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:56:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? Steve, I use the blue on suspension bolts. Generally, I have found Loctite unnecessary for most parts with lock washers. I know the directions say the red won't come apart without heat, but I have been able to get fasteners apart with mormal tools and no heat -- lawn and garden stuff like shears where you don't want the nuts too tight, but don't want them to come off, either. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? > Baffled by the dizzying array of loctite products I thought I'd ask which > number people like. I know there'll be someone on the list to explain > their belief that 4203 is best for areas of the car that have heat, > another number is good for heads and areas with oil and . . . but since I > call it a good day when I can find my 12 mm wrench in my tool chest I'd > like to stick to one bottle -- if possible. > > Thoughts > > '69 U20 SU, Headless. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 14 00:49:46 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Ronnie Day'" , "'Roadster List'" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:21:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pressure guage Another trick that some racers use to make the gauges more quickly readable is to rotate the gauge so that the needle is straight up at the "normal" reading. That way you can tell at a glance if it is normal, low or high. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronnie Day Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:26 PM To: Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pressure guage I like the gig gauges and the 270 sweep because it lets you just glance down to see if the needles are in the correct area. You seldom need to actually read them. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 14 05:35:34 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Roadster List'" Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:12:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pressure guage Rotated gauges, and a 2" round bright red warning light right above the tach for a low oil pressure idiot light! Saved an engine for me at drivers school! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:22 AM To: 'Ronnie Day'; 'Roadster List' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pressure guage Another trick that some racers use to make the gauges more quickly readable is to rotate the gauge so that the needle is straight up at the "normal" reading. That way you can tell at a glance if it is normal, low or high. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronnie Day Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:26 PM To: Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pressure guage I like the gig gauges and the 270 sweep because it lets you just glance down to see if the needles are in the correct area. You seldom need to actually read them. You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 14 08:21:55 2009 From: "MH" To: , Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:00:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? Here's an idea......how about info at the manufacturer's website, Google is handy! http://www.useloctite.com/filephotos/documents/Threadlocking_Solutions_Guide.pdf Here's the another page for downloading other Loctite product guides: http://www.useloctite.com/library/technical_literature4777.html?SubnavID=34 Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? > Baffled by the dizzying array of loctite products I thought I'd ask which number people like. I know there'll be someone on the list to explain their belief that 4203 is best for areas of the car that have heat, another number is good for heads and areas with oil and . . . but since I call it a good day when I can find my 12 mm wrench in my tool chest I'd like to stick to one bottle -- if possible. > > Thoughts > > '69 U20 SU, Headless. > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 14 09:23:41 2009 From: "MH" To: Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:54:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Loctite -- what do people like? I left out another useful guide from Loctite: http://www.useloctite.com/filephotos/documents/LT4985TLCapabilityGd.pdf Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "MH" To: ; Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? > Here's an idea......how about info at the manufacturer's website, Google is > handy! > > http://www.useloctite.com/filephotos/documents/Threadlocking_Solutions_Guide.pdf > > Here's the another page for downloading other Loctite product guides: > > http://www.useloctite.com/library/technical_literature4777.html?SubnavID=34 > > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:16 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? > > > > Baffled by the dizzying array of loctite products I thought I'd ask which > number people like. I know there'll be someone on the list to explain their > belief that 4203 is best for areas of the car that have heat, another number > is good for heads and areas with oil and . . . but since I call it a good > day when I can find my 12 mm wrench in my tool chest I'd like to stick to > one bottle -- if possible. > > > > Thoughts > > > > '69 U20 SU, Headless. > > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 14 11:22:32 2009 From: "MH" To: Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:51:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Loctite -- what do people like? Uh.......here's the equivalent product guides from Permatex. I've used some these as well as the Loctite, with equally good preformance. http://www.permatex.com/resource_auto_prodselect.htm ........I'm bored........time for a ZOOMIE! Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "MH" To: Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:54 AM Subject: Fw: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? > I left out another useful guide from Loctite: > > http://www.useloctite.com/filephotos/documents/LT4985TLCapabilityGd.pdf > > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MH" > To: ; > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? > > > > Here's an idea......how about info at the manufacturer's website, Google > is > > handy! > > > > > http://www.useloctite.com/filephotos/documents/Threadlocking_Solutions_Guide.pdf > > > > Here's the another page for downloading other Loctite product guides: > > > > > http://www.useloctite.com/library/technical_literature4777.html?SubnavID=34 > > > > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:16 PM > > Subject: [Roadsters] Loctite -- what do people like? > > > > > > > Baffled by the dizzying array of loctite products I thought I'd ask > which > > number people like. I know there'll be someone on the list to explain > their > > belief that 4203 is best for areas of the car that have heat, another > number > > is good for heads and areas with oil and . . . but since I call it a good > > day when I can find my 12 mm wrench in my tool chest I'd like to stick to > > one bottle -- if possible. > > > > > > Thoughts > > > > > > '69 U20 SU, Headless. > > > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 14 11:49:33 2009 From: robert@red-eye-motorsports.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:33:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Paging Ed Mitchell ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 14 18:16:56 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:49:24 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Old School Meet 8/27 Santa Clara Information here: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/1323143410.html Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-HM ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 14 19:01:52 2009 From: Bryce Parker To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] KYB Shocks Starting to gather parts for my 67 1600 resto and I'm curious of any issues with the KYB shocks as currently listed on Ebay - set of 4 for $98 and Free Shipping. I have a suspicion there may be a catch? Any advice or opinions would be appreciated. Thanks! Bryce ParkerMeridian, ID ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 14 21:19:18 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Bryce Parker" , Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:57:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] KYB Shocks KYB gas shocks have long been an aftermarket staple for roadsters. I believe they can be installed in the front without dismantling the lower A-arms. I run Koni adjustables on both my cars, but they won't fit through the stock holes in the A-arm assemblies, so I had to drop the A-arms to get them in my '66. (Actually pretty easy to do -- I wrote down the sequence back in 1976.) I don't know how the PO got them into the '67-1/2. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryce Parker" To: Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: [Roadsters] KYB Shocks > Starting to gather parts for my 67 1600 resto and I'm curious of any > issues > with the KYB shocks as currently listed on Ebay - set of 4 for $98 and > Free > Shipping. I have a suspicion there may be a catch? Any advice or > opinions > would be appreciated. > Thanks! > Bryce ParkerMeridian, ID > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 15 00:00:31 2009 From: John Atchison To: Datsun Roadsters Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:40:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] craigslist ad wants parts That looks like the auto-x & hillclimb roadster built by Don Miller of Boise, he sold the car several years ago to a new owner in the bay area ? John Atchison Half Fast Racing Idaho Falls At 12:09 AM 8/13/2009, Fred Katz wrote: >Hey check out this roadster on craigslist, belong to anyone on the >list? Car isn't for sale, the guy needs parts. > >69 1600 race car with a 300zx turbo and Ford rear end. I think it >looks wicked. Maybe I'll give him some parts just to see the beast. > >http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/pts/1317825536.html > >Fred - So.SF ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 15 11:43:42 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:26:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] KYB Shocks Several threads on 311s.org discuss these and other choices (sorry, no time for me to search and provide the links), however, the general consensus is that the KYB GR-2 are good, stock replacements. Readily available from Summit Racing: 343138 (front): $22 each 343136 (rear): $26 each So $98 from eBay (Item number: 350227297352) saves you a few bucks. And, yes, the fronts will slip through the hole in the lower A-arm. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bryce Parker Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:38 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] KYB Shocks Starting to gather parts for my 67 1600 resto and I'm curious of any issues with the KYB shocks as currently listed on Ebay - set of 4 for $98 and Free Shipping. I have a suspicion there may be a catch? Any advice or opinions would be appreciated. Thanks! Bryce ParkerMeridian, ID Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 15 13:13:07 2009 From: Eddie Wu / SAKE RKT To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] KYB Shocks Here's what I have saved in my email. From JH Bahn back in '07. Front roadster shocks are the same as Chrysler 1980-83 Cordoba, 1982 New Yorker, 1982-89 Imperial, New Yorker, 5th Ave., 1977-81 LeBaron, Dodge 1976-80 Aspen, 1977-89 Diplomat, 1977-88 Mirada, Nissan 1962-70 1600/2000 Roadster, Plymouth: 1982-89 Gran Fury... Front NISMO 99996-1750A (Koni) KYB KG4528 Gas-a-just KYB 343138 Monroe 5829 Gabriel 81406 Ryder Front Gabriel 69704 Ryder w/VST Front KONI 80 1750 Rear NISMO 99996-17510 (Koni) KYB KG5447 GR2 Rear gas-a-just; May bottom out KG5546 replace top bushings KYB 343136 Gabriel 82130 KONI 80 1751 --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Pete Peters wrote: > Several threads on 311s.org discuss > these and other choices (sorry, no time > for me to search and provide the links), however, the > general consensus is > that the KYB GR-2 are good, stock replacements. Readily > available from > Summit Racing: > > 343138 (front): $22 each > 343136 (rear): $26 each > > So $98 from eBay (Item number: 350227297352) saves you a > few bucks. > > And, yes, the fronts will slip through the hole in the > lower A-arm. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Bryce Parker > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:38 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] KYB Shocks > > Starting to gather parts for my 67 1600 resto and I'm > curious of any issues > with the KYB shocks as currently listed on Ebay - set of 4 > for $98 and Free > Shipping. I have a suspicion there may be a > catch? Any advice or opinions > would be appreciated. > Thanks! > Bryce ParkerMeridian, ID > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as datsunroadsters@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 15 15:53:32 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:42:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] old gas How flammable is gas going to be that is over 25 years old? The last reg tag on this car was 1981 so the gas in the tank is actually close to 30 years old. Everything under this car is pretty much rusted solid. I am hoping the tank can be salvaged. The only way I am going to get this tank out is to cut the fuel lines near as I can figure. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 16 09:54:20 2009 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:45:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] old gas Tim, There is a drain plug on the bottom of your gas tank. You can drain the tank, then remove it from the car and have it steam cleaned to get the gunk out. I have heard good and bad about having the interior of the tank coated and have not done that to Mr. Hyde. Some have reported the coating coming loose and causing problems getting fuel out of the tank because of the loose coating material inside of the tank. The tank in Mr. Hyde was cleaned 7 years ago and not coated. I have no issues with clogging fuel filters (I carry one with me at all times). I did have to use my compressor to blow crud out of the fuel line a couple of times during the first year I drove the car because I could not get fuel from the tank to the fuel pump. When you put the tank back into the car drill a couple of holes in the frame and turn the rear hangers around so they hook into the frame rather than the tabs hanging from the trunk floor. That will prevent cracks from forming on the trunk floor, or stop them from growing larger than they are now. MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN A VETALATED AREA WHEN YOU DRAIN THE TANK. You cannot believe how much this old gas will stink. Your neighbors may even complain about the stink. I don't know how well it will burn, but it will evaporate in a few days. Have fun. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 2:43 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] old gas How flammable is gas going to be that is over 25 years old? The last reg tag on this car was 1981 so the gas in the tank is actually close to 30 years old. Everything under this car is pretty much rusted solid. I am hoping the tank can be salvaged. The only way I am going to get this tank out is to cut the fuel lines near as I can figure. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 16 12:35:25 2009 From: "Ed Mitchell" To: Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:13:35 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Ok..Dead Betty...once again DEAD {~*Pout*~} I installed a Pertronix Electronic Ignition.do-ma-hitchie http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor/default.aspx And now it seems my coil blew up. Dunno if I have the wrong coil for use with the pertronix thang Coil is a diamond FTM-063GT 12v (looks like this thing -->) http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/3885279/sell_ignition_coil_gt63.htm l I noticed while installing the Pertronix Electronic Ignition...they also had pertronix coils identified on a small pamphlet.but I "assumed" they we're basically wanting me to buy more of their products. So I guess the question is.will any Datsun 1600 spec'd coil work with the Pertronix Elec. Ign.? (or it's a drinking game to drink whenever pertronix is mentioned) (OMG - how many more time could I possibly mention Pertronix?) Thanks for any info Ed Mitchell Las Cruces New Mexico 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 16 17:26:32 2009 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Autox" , Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:24:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Ed, I have a low resistance coil sold by Pertonix. For whatever reason I could never find the timing when I attempted to install the Pertronix ignition I have. In the end I installed a complete system from Dave Brisco, and it went in easy, timed correctly with no problems, and now I am not worried about the distributor point issues that kept raising their ugly head and causing me to stop on I-5 to make minor changes or figure out what shorted out. That was why I was trying to put the Pertonix that I purchased several years ago in over last winter. I don't know if I have the wrong reluctor, or what, but I could never find the correct timing to get the thing running. There are different options for the Pertronix installation. Some use the ballast resistor, some don't. Some require a low resistance coil like the one I have. Others want a higher resistance coil. I think I purchased the low resistance (1.5 ohm if I remembeer correctly) because it was recommended for the 4 cylinder enginies. Just before I pulled out the breaker point dizzy I just discovered in my father's tool box a nearly full tube of distributor cam lubricant used to lubricate the distributor cam and the phenolic follower on the points. It is a very nice smooth grease. Too bad we don't leave near each other. You could try the Pertonix coil on your system. Tom On 8/16/2009 11:13:35 AM, Ed Mitchell (edmitche@gmail.com) wrote: > Ok..Dead Betty...once again DEAD {~*Pout*~} > > > > I installed a Pertronix Electronic Ignition.do-ma-hitchie > http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor/default.aspx > > > > And now it seems my coil blew up. Dunno if I have the wrong coil for use > with the pertronix thang > > > > Coil is a diamond FTM-063GT 12v (looks like this thing -->) > http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/3885279/sell_ignition_coil_gt63. > htm > l > > > > I noticed while installing the Pertronix Electronic Ignition...they also > had > pertronix coils identified on a small pamphlet.but I "assumed" they > we're > basically wanting me to buy more of their products. > > > > So I guess the question is.will any Datsun 1600 spec'd > coil work with the > Pertronix Elec. Ign.? > > > > > > > > (or it's a drinking game to drink whenever pertronix is mentioned) (OMG - > how many more time could I possibly mention Pertronix?) > > > > > > > > Thanks for any info > > > > > > Ed Mitchell > > Las Cruces New Mexico ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 16 19:11:30 2009 From: Tim To: Ed Mitchell , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:03:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story You need to get a Gary Boone EI dizzy. And since those are no longer available new (I may have gotten the last two), you need to get an EI dizzy from Dave at East Coast Roadsters. Buy the correct coil. Set the timing. And forget about it! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL--bioth sporting GB EI dizzys!!!!!!!!!! Still clueless but always learning ---- Ed Mitchell wrote: ============= Ok..Dead Betty...once again DEAD {~*Pout*~} I installed a Pertronix Electronic Ignition.do-ma-hitchie http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor/default.aspx And now it seems my coil blew up. Dunno if I have the wrong coil for use with the pertronix thang Coil is a diamond FTM-063GT 12v (looks like this thing -->) http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/3885279/sell_ignition_coil_gt63.htm l I noticed while installing the Pertronix Electronic Ignition...they also had pertronix coils identified on a small pamphlet.but I "assumed" they we're basically wanting me to buy more of their products. So I guess the question is.will any Datsun 1600 spec'd coil work with the Pertronix Elec. Ign.? (or it's a drinking game to drink whenever pertronix is mentioned) (OMG - how many more time could I possibly mention Pertronix?) Thanks for any info Ed Mitchell Las Cruces New Mexico 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 16 20:54:04 2009 From: "dave" To: Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:27:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] old gas Hi Tim What Tom said is basically my experience. I added the old gas to my used motor oil and took it to the local recycle. The stink is awful. I recommend you replace every piece of rubber in the fuel system, fuel pump diaphragm and the carb floats, and fill up the metal lines with Gumout and blow them out into a rag. I added a clear filter before the pump, clogged 2 of them with residual junk. Carefully clean the sender, you may be able to save it. Dave ECR -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hendricksen [mailto:tom@datsun2000.com] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:46 AM To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net; Tim Subject: Re: [Roadsters] old gas Tim, There is a drain plug on the bottom of your gas tank. You can drain the tank, then remove it from the car and have it steam cleaned to get the gunk out. I have heard good and bad about having the interior of the tank coated and have not done that to Mr. Hyde. Some have reported the coating coming loose and causing problems getting fuel out of the tank because of the loose coating material inside of the tank. The tank in Mr. Hyde was cleaned 7 years ago and not coated. I have no issues with clogging fuel filters (I carry one with me at all times). I did have to use my compressor to blow crud out of the fuel line a couple of times during the first year I drove the car because I could not get fuel from the tank to the fuel pump. When you put the tank back into the car drill a couple of holes in the frame and turn the rear hangers around so they hook into the frame rather than the tabs hanging from the trunk floor. That will prevent cracks from forming on the trunk floor, or stop them from growing larger than they are now. MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN A VETALATED AREA WHEN YOU DRAIN THE TANK. You cannot believe how much this old gas will stink. Your neighbors may even complain about the stink. I don't know how well it will burn, but it will evaporate in a few days. Have fun. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 2:43 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] old gas How flammable is gas going to be that is over 25 years old? The last reg tag on this car was 1981 so the gas in the tank is actually close to 30 years old. Everything under this car is pretty much rusted solid. I am hoping the tank can be salvaged. The only way I am going to get this tank out is to cut the fuel lines near as I can figure. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as tom@datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 16 21:58:11 2009 From: Toby B To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:52:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas Jeeze, yeah, that stuff stinks- there's some organism that gets into it... Whatever you do, don't get it on you, because you'll stink for days. If you have just a little, I've burned it in the car. If there's more than 5 gallons or so, I'd give it to hazmat- again, that stuff's nasty! Toby Seattle ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 07:56:49 2009 From: "Dana Nojima" To: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:55:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] old gas >From: "Tom Hendricksen" >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] old gas >When you put the tank back into the car drill a couple of holes in the frame and turn the rear hangers around so they hook into the frame rather than the tabs hanging from >the trunk floor. That will prevent cracks from forming on the trunk floor, or stop them from growing larger than they are now. >Tom >69 2000 - Mr. Hyde >Portland Could someone post a link to a image of this? I've got cracks in the trunk and it would be nice to not have them grow. Dana Dana Nojima 510.219.6474 noji-1@pacbell.net ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 09:47:42 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old Gas Being a fuel cleanliness specialist, I can advise you that it is usually a fungus that lives in water, eats fuel and releases various sulpher based compounds, all smelly. Any condensation will do, from the tinyest droplet. The spores are in the air. It usually eats oils from plant and animal waste, but likes fuel as well. There are additives that kill the microbes, but the waste still stinks. JimG 2k 69 NJ --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Toby B wrote: From: Toby B Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 11:52 PM Jeeze, yeah, that stuff stinks- there's some organism that gets into it... Whatever you do, don't get it on you, because you'll stink for days. If you have just a little, I've burned it in the car. If there's more than 5 gallons or so, I'd give it to hazmat- again, that stuff's nasty! Toby Seattle You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 13:21:27 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Jim Gammon'" , Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:51:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old Gas Just out of curiosity, do you know how products like Sta-Bil work? How do they prevent this? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:26 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old Gas Being a fuel cleanliness specialist, I can advise you that it is usually a fungus that lives in water, eats fuel and releases various sulpher based compounds, all smelly. Any condensation will do, from the tinyest droplet. The spores are in the air. It usually eats oils from plant and animal waste, but likes fuel as well. There are additives that kill the microbes, but the waste still stinks. JimG 2k 69 NJ --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Toby B wrote: From: Toby B Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 11:52 PM Jeeze, yeah, that stuff stinks- there's some organism that gets into it... Whatever you do, don't get it on you, because you'll stink for days. If you have just a little, I've burned it in the car. If there's more than 5 gallons or so, I'd give it to hazmat- again, that stuff's nasty! Toby Seattle You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 13:49:10 2009 From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Hard Starting after running for a minute I have a 1966 Datsun 1600. Start the car and let it run for a minute and it is close to impossible to start again. There is gas going to the carbs and a spark at the plugs. Anyone ever have this problem? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 14:43:29 2009 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:30:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story I just installed the Dave Brisco dizzy. He offers the ignition system as a complete package, including the dizzy, coil, and wires. I went with this option and it is working just fine now. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com htt://www.nowroc.org On 8/16/2009 6:03:16 PM, Tim (tputland@charter.net) wrote: > You need to get a Gary Boone EI dizzy. And since those are no longer > available new (I may have gotten the last two), you need to get an EI > dizzy from Dave at East Coast Roadsters. Buy the correct coil. Set the > timing. And forget about it! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL--bioth sporting GB EI dizzys!!!!!!!!!! > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Ed Mitchell wrote: > > ============= > Ok..Dead Betty...once again DEAD {~*Pout*~} > > > > I installed a Pertronix Electronic Ignition.do-ma-hitchie > http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor/default.aspx > > > > And now it seems my coil blew up. Dunno if I have the wrong coil for use > with the pertronix thang > > > > Coil is a diamond FTM-063GT 12v (looks like this thing -->) > http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/3885279/sell_ignition_coil_gt63.htm > l > > > > I noticed while installing the Pertronix Electronic Ignition...they also had > pertronix coils identified on a small pamphlet.but I "assumed" they we're > basically wanting me to buy more of their products. > > > > So I guess the question is.will any Datsun 1600 > spec'd coil work with the ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 16:12:14 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: Tom Hendricksen Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:00:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Welcome to the Club of Worry-Free Ignition! -Dave Cooke On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Tom Hendricksen wrote: > I just installed the Dave Brisco dizzy. He offers the ignition system as a > complete package, including the dizzy, coil, and wires. I went with this > option and it is working just fine now. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > htt://www.nowroc.org > > > > On 8/16/2009 6:03:16 PM, Tim (tputland@charter.net) wrote: > > You need to get a Gary Boone EI dizzy. And since those are no longer > > available new (I may have gotten the last two), you need to get an EI > > dizzy from Dave at East Coast Roadsters. Buy the correct coil. Set the > > timing. And forget about it! > > > > Tim > > Belleville, WI. > > '70 SPL AND SRL--bioth sporting GB EI dizzys!!!!!!!!!! > > Still clueless but always learning > > > > ---- Ed Mitchell wrote: > > > > ============= > > Ok..Dead Betty...once again DEAD {~*Pout*~} > > > > > > > > I installed a Pertronix Electronic Ignition.do-ma-hitchie > > http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor/default.aspx > > > > > > > > And now it seems my coil blew up. Dunno if I have the wrong coil for use > > with the pertronix thang > > > > > > > > Coil is a diamond FTM-063GT 12v (looks like this thing -->) > > > > http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/3885279/sell_ignition_coil_gt63.htm > > l > > > > > > > > I noticed while installing the Pertronix Electronic Ignition...they also > had > > pertronix coils identified on a small pamphlet.but I "assumed" they we're > > basically wanting me to buy more of their products. > > > > > > > > So I guess the question is.will any Datsun 1600 > > spec'd coil work with the > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cookefam314@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 19:42:50 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Gordon Glasgow Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old Gas I cannot seem to get an MSDS sheet for Sta-bil, but I expect it has several components An anti-oxidant to prevent gum formation An alcohol to suspend water A metal deactivator to prevent corrosion Perhaps a minor biocide as well A great product for wasting microbes is Kaython FP 1.5 (sold by FQS), but it does nothing else. It is widely used by airlines putting aircraft into long term storage (we've sold quite a few). We make and sell a injector for the purpose, but do not sell the additive. It is powerful stuff. http://www.fqsinc.com/kathon_general.php Biobor JF is a similar product, but not as good, IMHO. Both are for diesel and Jet fuel. Biobor can be bought at many marinas. We also make injectors for anti-icing additive for jet fuel (basically just high grade kerosine), but our real business is Jet fuel QC products. I do a bit with ASTM and the API, IATA and EI/IP as well. Jet fuel QC is us. JimG http://www.gammontech.com/ --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Gordon Glasgow wrote: From: Gordon Glasgow Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Old Gas To: "'Jim Gammon'" , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:51 PM Just out of curiosity, do you know how products like Sta-Bil work? How do they prevent this? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:26 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Old Gas Being a fuel cleanliness specialist, I can advise you that it is usually a fungus that lives in water, eats fuel and releases various sulpher based compounds, all smelly. Any condensation will do, from the tinyest droplet. The spores are in the air. It usually eats oils from plant and animal waste, but likes fuel as well. There are additives that kill the microbes, but the waste still stinks. JimG 2k 69 NJ --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Toby B wrote: From: Toby B Subject: [Roadsters] Old Gas To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 11:52 PM Jeeze, yeah, that stuff stinks- there's some organism that gets into it... Whatever you do, don't get it on you, because you'll stink for days. If you have just a little, I've burned it in the car. If there's more than 5 gallons or so, I'd give it to hazmat- again, that stuff's nasty! Toby Seattle You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 20:57:02 2009 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:44:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] GM Alternator Looks like I will be working on getting eliza back on the road - want to do the gm alternator thingie - anyone out there have the necessary mountings for the passenger side. Thanks Peter (Eliza) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 21:34:41 2009 From: "dave" To: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:10:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Hi Ed. The primary resistance is what counts for a coil. The ballast resistor, if used, adds to it. The higher the resistance, the less current can flow. If you use a very low resistance coil in the wrong application, they tend to blow up or leak. Also, some oil filled coils cannot be mounted sideways, Crane PS60, for example. You need to read the Pertronix instructions and use the recommended ballast resistor and coil, and depending on the coil used, mount it upright. Chris Beyer had a brand new Pertronix coil I sent him start leaking after a few minutes, probably factory defective. Specs matched what I use. I'll stick to my regular brands from here on, they've been trouble free, mounted either way. Tom, thanks for the nice review. As far as the whacky timing, unless the advance weights were sticking or flopping loose, I remember reading that the pertronix units have a retard feature for easy starting. It supposedly retards the timing 10 or 15 degrees at cranking speeds, (approx 200rpm) This may explain the timing being all over the map. Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Ed Mitchell [mailto:edmitche@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:14 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Ok..Dead Betty...once again DEAD {~*Pout*~} I installed a Pertronix Electronic Ignition.do-ma-hitchie http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor/default.aspx And now it seems my coil blew up. Dunno if I have the wrong coil for use with the pertronix thang Coil is a diamond FTM-063GT 12v (looks like this thing -->) http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/3885279/sell_ignition_coil_gt63.htm l I noticed while installing the Pertronix Electronic Ignition...they also had pertronix coils identified on a small pamphlet.but I "assumed" they we're basically wanting me to buy more of their products. So I guess the question is.will any Datsun 1600 spec'd coil work with the Pertronix Elec. Ign.? (or it's a drinking game to drink whenever pertronix is mentioned) (OMG - how many more time could I possibly mention Pertronix?) Thanks for any info Ed Mitchell Las Cruces New Mexico 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 21:59:20 2009 From: Eddie To: peter harrison Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:35:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] GM Alternator All you have to do is slightly modify your existing bracket. Directions are on the 311 site... peter harrison wrote: > Looks like I will be working on getting eliza back on the road - want to do > the gm alternator thingie - anyone out there have the necessary mountings for > the passenger side. > > > > Thanks > > > > Peter (Eliza) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 17 22:14:14 2009 From: "robert k. smith" To: , roadster list Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:09:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hard Starting after running for a minute hi david, are you using choke to start it cold? ck. for choke sticking. does it run rough or smoke for the min. it runs? the carbs might be set too rich for a warm engine to run. does it help to floor the throttle when trying to start it again? ck. the spark plugs for darkness or gas fouling. that is an interesting problem. good luck, bob smith,ohio. > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:30:51 -0700 > From: dboerst@yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Hard Starting after running for a minute > > I have a 1966 Datsun 1600. Start the car and let it run for a minute and it is close to impossible to start again. There is gas going to the carbs and a spark at the plugs. Anyone ever have this problem? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackTo School_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 00:27:29 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:14:48 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 2009 Monterey Historics pics Pics here: http://rides.webshots.com/album/574168743qYcSDQ We saw 1 black roadster, a blue 510 and the panamerica roadster! There was a company making vintage-style seats, pretty cool! Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 10:43:30 2009 From: "Neil Levine" To: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:32:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story I've had the Gary Boone dizzy on my car for several years and it has performed well, but the control module failed on my unit a few years ago not too long after installing it. Fortunately this happened at the Mt. Shasta meet where there were a number of kind folk who were able to help out and I was finally able to find a used good module to replace the bad one. If I wasn't able to find this used one from one of our vendors at a reasonable price, I was going to have to purchase a new one from a local car parts store for what I remember was around $175 and would have had to wait a day for it. So let's just say that I now carry a spare module with me just in case. I don't know how often these things might fail, I may have had the only one ever, but sometimes it pays to worry just a little :-). Neil '66 1600 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cooke Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:01 PM To: Tom Hendricksen Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Welcome to the Club of Worry-Free Ignition! -Dave Cooke ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 10:58:42 2009 From: ljordan704@aim.com To: nalevine@dcn.org, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:56:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story You can find spare modules, even new ones on EBAY. Good to have in the glove box. Yes they are otherwise expensive new. You might be able to find some on wrecked 1982 B210s or check to see if someone is parting out? a 210 so you can get the module. When I got my GB dizzy from Garry the instructions listed numbers for the spare parts. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Neil Levine To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2009 9:32 am Subject: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story I've had the Gary Boone dizzy on my car for several years and it has performed well, but the control module failed on my unit a few years ago not too long after installing it. Fortunately this happened at the Mt. Shasta meet where there were a number of kind folk who were able to help out and I was finally able to find a used good module to replace the bad one. If I wasn't able to find this used one from one of our vendors at a reasonable price, I was going to have to purchase a new one from a local car parts store for what I remember was around $175 and would have had to wait a day for it. So let's just say that I now carry a spare module with me just in case. I don't know how often these things might fail, I may have had the only one ever, but sometimes it pays to worry just a little :-). Neil '66 1600 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cooke Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:01 PM To: Tom Hendricksen Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Welcome to the Club of Worry-Free Ignition! -Dave Cooke You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 11:44:04 2009 From: chalsted@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: 68 1600 ROADSTER FOR SALE I was asked to forward this to the list, don't know the car, have no financial interest in the transaction... contact Bill directly Craig Craig would you forward to list please/ Vacaville, Calif. Red 68 1600, ZX wheels, new tires, $3500.00, Call Bill @ 707-253-1551, 7-3 Tue thru Sat. No Sun or Mon. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 12:30:03 2009 From: Stan Chernoff To: "Neil Levine" , Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:25:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Neil, I remember that incident. I removed a module from one of the EI roadster distributors that I had been building and sold it to Neil. The modules are quite reliable but some failures are inevitable. I recommend having a spare. Avoid the modules that have extra connections on the side because they were made for a different application. New modules from Nissan are pricey but probably have the best quality and reliability. Used Nissan modules are also a good choice. Stan == At 09:32 AM 8/18/2009, Neil Levine wrote: >I've had the Gary Boone dizzy on my car for several years and it has >performed well, but the control module failed on my unit a few years ago not >too long after installing it. Fortunately this happened at the Mt. Shasta >meet where there were a number of kind folk who were able to help out and I >was finally able to find a used good module to replace the bad one. If I >wasn't able to find this used one from one of our vendors at a reasonable >price, I was going to have to purchase a new one from a local car parts >store for what I remember was around $175 and would have had to wait a day >for it. > >So let's just say that I now carry a spare module with me just in case. I >don't know how often these things might fail, I may have had the only one >ever, but sometimes it pays to worry just a little :-). > >Neil >'66 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 12:57:11 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Thunderhill Raceway street view Reposting from the Bluebirds list. This is pretty cool: ---------------------------------------------------------- For all you past Shasta/Thunder Hill participants, Google just added street view imagery of the Thunderhill track; Move around the track by clicking on the < that are on the ground, you may need to zoom out (-) in order to see the < . ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 15:53:32 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Neil Levine'" , Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:47:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story And therein lies the one disadvantage of electronic ignition. If it dies, all you can do is replace a rather expensive part. And if you don't have one with you, you're stuck. You can file, clean and regap points on the side of the road if need be. Don't get me wrong, the EI dizzy as built by Gary and Dave is a great unit. Just remember to carry an extra module with you. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Neil Levine Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:32 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story I've had the Gary Boone dizzy on my car for several years and it has performed well, but the control module failed on my unit a few years ago not too long after installing it. Fortunately this happened at the Mt. Shasta meet where there were a number of kind folk who were able to help out and I was finally able to find a used good module to replace the bad one. If I wasn't able to find this used one from one of our vendors at a reasonable price, I was going to have to purchase a new one from a local car parts store for what I remember was around $175 and would have had to wait a day for it. So let's just say that I now carry a spare module with me just in case. I don't know how often these things might fail, I may have had the only one ever, but sometimes it pays to worry just a little :-). Neil '66 1600 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cooke Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:01 PM To: Tom Hendricksen Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Welcome to the Club of Worry-Free Ignition! -Dave Cooke Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 17:27:17 2009 From: "Charles Breault" To: "'Gordon Glasgow'" , "'Neil Levine'" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:26:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story I actually carry a spare distributer with me. Only takes like 10 minutes on the side of the road. Plus, if I have it with me, it will never break. CharlieB. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:47 PM To: 'Neil Levine'; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story And therein lies the one disadvantage of electronic ignition. If it dies, all you can do is replace a rather expensive part. And if you don't have one with you, you're stuck. You can file, clean and regap points on the side of the road if need be. Don't get me wrong, the EI dizzy as built by Gary and Dave is a great unit. Just remember to carry an extra module with you. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Neil Levine Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:32 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story I've had the Gary Boone dizzy on my car for several years and it has performed well, but the control module failed on my unit a few years ago not too long after installing it. Fortunately this happened at the Mt. Shasta meet where there were a number of kind folk who were able to help out and I was finally able to find a used good module to replace the bad one. If I wasn't able to find this used one from one of our vendors at a reasonable price, I was going to have to purchase a new one from a local car parts store for what I remember was around $175 and would have had to wait a day for it. So let's just say that I now carry a spare module with me just in case. I don't know how often these things might fail, I may have had the only one ever, but sometimes it pays to worry just a little :-). Neil '66 1600 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cooke Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:01 PM To: Tom Hendricksen Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Welcome to the Club of Worry-Free Ignition! -Dave Cooke Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as vze2fhba@verizon.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 18:23:39 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:17:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story -----Original Message----- I actually carry a spare distributer with me. Only takes like 10 minutes on the side of the road. Plus, if I have it with me, it will never break. CharlieB. Does this mean your car is always dirty? lol ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 19:24:35 2009 From: Gary Boone To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Back when I sold these EI dizzies, I suggested in my instructions that came with the dizzy, that the owner search the salvage yards for a spare module and have it tested at the autoparts store. Beware that a lot of testers will indicate the module is bad when it is actually good. They're on any Datsun models, years 1979 thru 1982. There are still several 280ZX's in the yards ( I just saw one last week in a local yard with a module on it). I'd suggest that if the tester says it's bad, install it anyway to prove it. Then carry the spare. Beware of the module if it doesn't have on it "E12-80". Don't buy it, because its likely a Taiwan aftermarket unit and they are less reliable. With my fuel injection conversion, I also converted my ignition to a flying magnet crank trigger and the ECU is controlling spark advance. So I gutted my EI dizzy including removing the module. Pure heresy Happy roadstering. Gary To: Neil Levine ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:47:24 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story And therein lies the one disadvantage of electronic ignition. If it dies, all you can do is replace a rather expensive part. And if you don't have one with you, you're stuck. You can file, clean and regap points on the side of the road if need be. Don't get me wrong, the EI dizzy as built by Gary and Dave is a great unit. Just remember to carry an extra module with you. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Neil Levine Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:32 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story I've had the Gary Boone dizzy on my car for several years and it has performed well, but the control module failed on my unit a few years ago not too long after installing it. Fortunately this happened at the Mt. Shasta meet where there were a number of kind folk who were able to help out and I was finally able to find a used good module to replace the bad one. If I wasn't able to find this used one from one of our vendors at a reasonable price, I was going to have to purchase a new one from a local car parts store for what I remember was around $175 and would have had to wait a day for it. So let's just say that I now carry a spare module with me just in case. I don't know how often these things might fail, I may have had the only one ever, but sometimes it pays to worry just a little :-). Neil '66 1600 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cooke Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:01 PM To: Tom Hendricksen Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Welcome to the Club of Worry-Free Ignition! -Dave Cooke Datsun-roadsters mailing list ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 19:27:27 2009 From: "dave" To: "'peter harrison'" , "'datsun'" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:26:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] GM Alternator If you can't find the brackets, the drivers side conversion requires no adaptation of the mounts, bolts right in. I have photos if anyone is interested. http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii241/daveandlindab/Drivers%20side%20alte rnator/ I found a good source for alternators just ordered one for the 64, $55.00 delivered in 3 days, no core and looks great. New cases, rebuilt inside, avail as a 1 or 3 wire. He even included a larger pully for high RPM. Bill Howard howent@hotmail.com He also sells on Ebay. He has rgular, minis and chrome GM's. I have no affiliation to his business, just passing on the info. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: peter harrison [mailto:granvillecomputing@hotmail.com] Subject: [Roadsters] GM Alternator Looks like I will be working on getting eliza back on the road - want to do the gm alternator thingie - anyone out there have the necessary mountings for the passenger side. Thanks Peter (Eliza) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 19:43:17 2009 From: "dave" To: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:42:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story There are usually 1 or 2 modules on Ebay for about $49.00. I use him as a source when I run short. I get them in on cores physically broken, but still working. Of course I can't sell these, but they are good spares if anyone wants one. It's called an E12-80, and that # is stamped on it. Always try to get a Nissan if you are buying a used one, and the one with the extra plug on the side won't work, it's for a 280Z turbo. If you REALLY get stuck, you can wire in a GM HEI module, cheap and available anywhere, with a few feet of wire and some tape in about half an hour and get home. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: ljordan704@aim.com [mailto:ljordan704@aim.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:57 PM To: nalevine@dcn.org; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story You can find spare modules, even new ones on EBAY. Good to have in the glove box. Yes they are otherwise expensive new. You might be able to find some on wrecked 1982 B210s or check to see if someone is parting out? a 210 so you can get the module. When I got my GB dizzy from Garry the instructions listed numbers for the spare parts. Linda Original Message----- From: Neil Levine Ive had the Gary Boone dizzy on my car for several years and it has performed well, but the control module failed on my unit a few years ago not too long after installing it. Fortunately this happened at the Mt. Shasta meet where there were a number of kind folk who were able to help out and I was finally able to find a used good module to replace the bad one. If I wasn't able to find this used one from one of our vendors at a reasonable price, I was going to have to purchase a new one from a local car parts store for what I remember was around $175 and would have had to wait a day for it. So let's just say that I now carry a spare module with me just in case. I don't know how often these things might fail, I may have had the only one ever, but sometimes it pays to worry just a little :-). Neil '66 1600 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cooke Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:01 PM To: Tom Hendricksen Cc: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Welcome to the Club of Worry-Free Ignition! -Dave Cooke You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 22:15:25 2009 From: "dave" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:14:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Tom, Dave, Thanks for the comments. Just for clarity, what I sell IS/was a Gary Boone distributor, I bought the whole shooting match from Gary. There's been some small changes, but only as a production and/or durability improvement. Oh, and Mark and Drew Dent truly have the last "Gen-U-Wine Gary Boone". Gary gave me a complete finished distributor he built for a model as part of the deal. After I no longer needed a model to refer back to, I added grease and gave it to Mark's son Drew as a birthday present for his Roadster. I'm installing it Saturday. Dave Freed also mentioned that got the last one and someone else paid around $600.00 for the other last one on Ebay. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hendricksen [mailto:tom@datsun2000.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:31 PM To: Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net; Tputland@Charter. Net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story I just installed the Dave Brisco dizzy. He offers the ignition system as a complete package, including the dizzy, coil, and wires. I went with this option and it is working just fine now. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com htt://www.nowroc.org On 8/16/2009 6:03:16 PM, Tim (tputland@charter.net) wrote: > You need to get a Gary Boone EI dizzy. And since those are no longer > available new (I may have gotten the last two), you need to get an EI > dizzy from Dave at East Coast Roadsters. Buy the correct coil. Set the > timing. And forget about it! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL--bioth sporting GB EI dizzys!!!!!!!!!! > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Ed Mitchell wrote: > > ============= > Ok..Dead Betty...once again DEAD {~*Pout*~} > > > > I installed a Pertronix Electronic Ignition.do-ma-hitchie > http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor/default.aspx > > > > And now it seems my coil blew up. Dunno if I have the wrong coil for use > with the pertronix thang > > > > Coil is a diamond FTM-063GT 12v (looks like this thing -->) > http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/3885279/sell_ignition_coil_gt63.htm > l > > > > I noticed while installing the Pertronix Electronic Ignition...they also had > pertronix coils identified on a small pamphlet.but I "assumed" they we're > basically wanting me to buy more of their products. > > > > So I guess the question is.will any Datsun 1600 > spec'd coil work with the ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 18 23:58:24 2009 From: "SlowBoy" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:57:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Not quite the last Gen-U-Wine Gary Boone uninstalled distributor. Mine is still in the box I received from Gary on 10 DEC 2001 at a whooping cost of $218 delivered. It's just waiting on me to actually install it. Jim SlowBoy "Slower than molasses up hill in Phoenix during August" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:14 PM To: 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Oh, and Mark and Drew Dent truly have the last "Gen-U-Wine Gary Boone". Gary gave me a complete finished distributor he built for a model as part of the deal. After I no longer needed a model to refer back to, I added grease and gave it to Mark's son Drew as a birthday present for his Roadster. I'm installing it Saturday. Dave Freed also mentioned that got the last one and someone else paid around $600.00 for the other last one on Ebay. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 19 06:44:15 2009 From: "alagams@juno.com" To: daveandlindab@comcast.net Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:42:53 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story I might not have the last Gary Boone EI but I do have one of the first DB EI's does that count for anything. Gary ____________________________________________________________ Discount Airfare from $49 Airfare Rates Just Dropped! Book Now to Lock In the Best Deals. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=pHF6SSv8VLDYi90NiUlOCQAAJ1Db-7K uMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAUAAAAAAAAAAKDP5D2WFeBCJpYg4kwntRNVvEtMAAAAAA== ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 19 07:56:07 2009 From: Gary Boone To: ljordan704@aim.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Linda, Any module that is a E12-80 will work. They're all the same regardless of what model they come from, whether it's a 1979-82 210, 310, 510, 810, pickup, or 280ZX. (Was there a 610 and 710 too during that time? ) Gary ________________________________ From: "ljordan704@aim.com" To: gboone70@yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:36:41 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Garry, Do the 280Zx modules work also? I thought just the B210s did. Though I guess the part # could be checked for all of its applications. Re the Taiwainese modules: I would think that if you get a few junkyard spares that are tested to work they would likely cover you for some time. I'm waiting for the GB fuel injection conversion kit to come out. That would be something I'm glad I got my GB dizzy before the price took off. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Gary Boone To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2009 6:22 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Back when I sold these EI dizzies, I suggested in my instructions that came with the dizzy, that the owner search the salvage yards for a spare module and have it tested at the autoparts store. Beware that a lot of testers will indicate the module is bad when it is actually good. They're on any Datsun models, years 1979 thru 1982. There are still several 280ZX's in the yards ( I just saw one last week in a local yard with a module on it). I'd suggest that if the tester says it's bad, install it anyway to prove it. Then carry the spare. Beware of the module if it doesn't have on it "E12-80". Don't buy it, because its likely a Taiwan aftermarket unit and they are less reliable. With my fuel injection conversion, I also converted my ignition to a flying magnet crank trigger and the ECU is controlling spark advance. So I gutted my EI dizzy including removing the module. Pure heresy Happy roadstering. Gary ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 19 13:12:27 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Roadster List" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:12:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] EI distributors It has been brought to my attention that Stan Chernoff also builds EI distributors. I actually wasn't aware of this (there are many things I'm not aware of). When I made the comment that the units built by Gary and Dave were high quality units, I definitely DID NOT mean to imply that the ones built by Stan were of inferior quality. I hope no one took it that way. The oversight is mine. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 19 13:38:06 2009 From: Tim To: Gordon Glasgow , Roadster List Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:34:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] EI distributors I also didn't know Stan was building them. I thought Gary (and now Dave) were the only ones. Hope I didn't say anything offensive. If so, appologies all around. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Gordon Glasgow wrote: ============= It has been brought to my attention that Stan Chernoff also builds EI distributors. I actually wasn't aware of this (there are many things I'm not aware of). When I made the comment that the units built by Gary and Dave were high quality units, I definitely DID NOT mean to imply that the ones built by Stan were of inferior quality. I hope no one took it that way. The oversight is mine. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 19 18:09:03 2009 From: "dave" To: "'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net'" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:08:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the continuing and still NEVER ENDING story This is most of the cars that it fits. As Gary said, If it's a Nissan and says "E12-80", then it's correct. 200SX (1979 - 1981) 210 (1979 - 1982) 210 DELUXE (1980 - 1982) 280ZX (1979 - 1981) 280ZX 2+2 (1979 - 1980) 280ZX 2+2 GL 1981 310 (1979 - 1981) 310 GX (1980 - 1981) 510 (1979 - 1980) 620 PICKUP 1979 720 PICKUP 1980 810 (1979 - 1981) MAXIMA SL 1981 This is the wrong one, from a later ZX with the extra terminals, FI cars I think. Copy and paste for photo. http://info.rockauto.com/getimage/getimage.php?imagekey=336649&imageurl=http %3A//198.208.187.182/servlet/com.entigo.acdelcocatalog.servlet.ProcessImageS ervlet%3Flanguagecd%3DEN%26countrycd%3DUS%26user%3DInternetUser%26mfgname%3D %26prodlinecd%3D%26acpartnbr%3DE1946A -----Original Message----- From: Gary Boone [mailto:gboone70@yahoo.com] Linda, Any module that is a E12-80 will work. They're all the same regardless of what model they come from, whether it's a 1979-82 210, 310, 510, 810, pickup, or 280ZX. (Was there a 610 and 710 too during that time? ) Gary ________________________________ From: "ljordan704@aim.com" Garry, Do the 280Zx modules work also? I thought just the B210s did. Though I guess the part # could be checked for all of its applications. Re the Taiwainese modules: I would think that if you get a few junkyard spares that are tested to work they would likely cover you for some time. I'm waiting for the GB fuel injection conversion kit to come out. That would be something I'm glad I got my GB dizzy before the price took off. Linda -----Original Message----- Back when I sold these EI dizzies, I suggested in my instructions that came with the dizzy, that the owner search the salvage yards for a spare module and have it tested at the autoparts store. Beware that a lot of testers will indicate the module is bad when it is actually good. They're on any Datsun models, years 1979 thru 1982. There are still several 280ZX's in the yards ( I just saw one last week in a local yard with a module on it). I'd suggest that if the tester says it's bad, install it anyway to prove it. Then carry the spare. Beware of the module if it doesn't have on it "E12-80". Don't buy it, because its likely a Taiwan aftermarket unit and they are less reliable. With my fuel injection conversion, I also converted my ignition to a flying magnet crank trigger and the ECU is controlling spark advance. So I gutted my EI dizzy including removing the module. Pure heresy Happy roadstering. Gary ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 19 18:10:10 2009 From: "barterdude" To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:39:39 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] WyCROC rises to the challenge All we can say is WOW. This is the first time in the WyCROC history, that we had a total of 24 Roadster's show up for an event. The event started early Saturday morning with Eric Frisbee, Dan Neff and Gary Lasater (original founder's) meeting at Gary's house. AJ Lasater, now 18 and driving his own 1600 join the group and we headed off to the original meeting place, the Castle Rock McDonald's. We had a total of 8 roadster's meeting at the first stop on the road to Greeley. Our first early Z from the ZRoad group (a mixture of early Z's from 1970 to '78 and roadsters) joined us at the starting point too. Next, we all cruised up I-25 to meet the central roadster owners at Brooklyn's near the Pepsi Center in downtown. To our surprise, we meet another 9 roadster owners to bring our ranks to 17. That took the breath away, since our previous record was 13 roadsters at one event. Unfortunately, we had a couple that had previous commitments and were unable to make the trip to Greeley. Additionally we had invited our newer (at least to us) brethren, the early Z's, and we had several more Z car's join us at Brooklyn's. Our next stop was the McDonald's in Brighton where we picked a couple more roadsters and Z cars. Unfortunately we had a causality with one of the 1600's apparently overheated on the way and cracked his block and had a rather large quantity of water flowing out of the exhaust pipe and on the ground. But, he took it in stride using this as excuse to upgrade and talk about options leaning towards a KA conversion. We finally arrived at Erlich's Nissan in Greeley shortly after noon to meet up with the northern contingent and after everyone arrived found parking spots we ended up with 20 Roadsters, 8 early Z's and 3 late model Z's for a showing of 31. Erlich graciously sponsored a BBQ and gave out awards for early and late roadsters, Z cars, People's Choice and Dealer's Choice. Finally, we would like to thank our original Founder's for coming out 10 years ago and starting up a rag-tag bunch of roadster enthusiasts. (From left to right) Eric Frisbee, Dan Neff, Gary Lasater, Gary Boone, and Greg Nelson were able to make the show. Eric drove 1000 miles towing his '70 Blue 2000 (the original 1600 didn't make the trip but he still has it). Dan unfortunately is without a roadster right now but we're working on getting him back with one, but for the event, he drove Gary Lasater's yellow and black '69 2000. Gary Lasater brought his 1500 from the original meet along with his son driving his '70 1600. Gary Boone brought his newly working EFI blue 2000 ready for the race track again. Greg Nelson's roadster is being put back together after some much needed repairs are being done. Unfortunately, Mike Koken and his car was unable to make the event. Our webmaster, Dan Neff, should hopefully have all the great pictures up on www.WyCROC.org shortly. In the meantime, Daniel Bailin, from the ZRoad group has posted some pictures and a nice video riding in John Over's roadster leaving Brooklyn's. http://s88.photobuc ket.com/albums/k172/dbailin/2009-08%20ZRoad%20show%20Greeley/ Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If the read of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return message, and delete or destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 19 18:27:36 2009 From: J H To: SlowBoy , "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Sssshhh...we shouldn't keep telling people that there are more Gen-U-Wine Gary Boone uninstalled distributors. Then they'll think each one is the last one and with no other supply, we can sell at a fortune. I won't tell them that I also bought one once he restarted production a couple of years ago just to have one, since I thought he might quit again and I'd not have any source. I may never use it, but I have it! Oops..guess I shouldn't have replied all...now the secret's out. Jeff aka Goldhawg ________________________________ From: SlowBoy To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:57:23 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Not quite the last Gen-U-Wine Gary Boone uninstalled distributor. Mine is still in the box I received from Gary on 10 DEC 2001 at a whooping cost of $218 delivered. It's just waiting on me to actually install it. Jim SlowBoy "Slower than molasses up hill in Phoenix during August" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:14 PM To: 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story Oh, and Mark and Drew Dent truly have the last "Gen-U-Wine Gary Boone". Gary gave me a complete finished distributor he built for a model as part of the deal. After I no longer needed a model to refer back to, I added grease and gave it to Mark's son Drew as a birthday present for his Roadster. I'm installing it Saturday. Dave Freed also mentioned that got the last one and someone else paid around $600.00 for the other last one on Ebay. Dave Brisco East Coast Roadster You are subscribed as goldhawg71@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 19 18:38:54 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: , , Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:38:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story darn it!I can't get this song out of my head! Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:27:02 -0700 > From: goldhawg71@yahoo.com > To: slowboy@cox.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story > > Sssshhh...we shouldn't keep telling people that there are more Gen-U-Wine Gary Boone uninstalled distributors. Then they'll think each one is the last one and with no other supply, we can sell at a fortune. I won't tell them that I also bought one once he restarted production a couple of years ago just to have one, since I thought he might quit again and I'd not have any source. I may never use it, but I have it! > > Oops..guess I shouldn't have replied all...now the secret's out. > > Jeff > aka Goldhawg > > > > > ________________________________ > From: SlowBoy > To: "Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net" > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:57:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story > > Not quite the last Gen-U-Wine Gary Boone uninstalled distributor. Mine is > still in the box I received from Gary on 10 DEC 2001 at a whooping cost of > $218 delivered. It's just waiting on me to actually install it. > > Jim > SlowBoy > "Slower than molasses up hill in Phoenix during August" > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:14 PM > To: 'Datsun-Roadsters@Autox. Team. Net' > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story > > > Oh, and Mark and Drew Dent truly have the last "Gen-U-Wine Gary Boone". > Gary gave me a complete finished distributor he built for a model as part of > the deal. After I no longer needed a model to refer back to, I added grease > and gave it to Mark's son Drew as a birthday present for his Roadster. I'm > installing it Saturday. Dave Freed also mentioned that got the last one and > someone else paid around $600.00 for the other last one on Ebay. > > Dave Brisco > East Coast Roadster > You are subscribed as goldhawg71@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as alvingogi@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM _HYGN_faster:082009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 19 21:26:29 2009 From: Peter Jones To: , , , Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:21:28 +0800 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story It's even worst when you know how sings it Lama and the film clip has a big white creature flying through the air with a small boy on it's back. argh Peter j > From: alvingogi@hotmail.com > To: goldhawg71@yahoo.com; slowboy@cox.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:38:23 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story > > darn it!I can't get this song out of my head! > > Alvin Gogineni > San Jose, CA > 67.5 SPL/SR20 > > > > > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:27:02 -0700 > > From: goldhawg71@yahoo.com > > To: slowboy@cox.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] the NEVER ENDING story > > > > Sssshhh...we shouldn't keep telling people that there are more Gen-U-Wine > Gary Boone uninstalled distributors. Then they'll think each one is the last > one and with no other supply, we can sell at a fortune. I won't tell them > that I also bought one once he restarted production a couple of years ago just > to have one, since I thought he might quit again and I'd not have any source. > I may never use it, but I have it! > > > > Oops..guess I shouldn't have replied all...now the secret's out. > > > > Jeff > > aka Goldhawg _________________________________________________________________ Use Windows Live Messenger from your Hotmail inbox Web IM has arrived! http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 11:25:58 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: late model clutch & brake hardlines We have a young gentleman (recently turned 16) with a '69 1600. One problem is the clutch & brake hard lines in the engine compartment have been pretty mangled by a PO. Hoping someone local in the Puget Sound area might have the lines. Another option is if someone attending this Saturday's Shed BBQ might have 'em, and one of our members can bring them back north saving packaging/shipping. What's needed (in good condition) are: Clutch master cylinder to clutch slave hose Brake master cylinder to firewall junction block (2 lines) Firewall junction block to front caliper hoses (2 lines) Thanks. Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 17:01:02 2009 From: "Tom Hendricksen" To: "Autox" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:00:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SHED BBQ/RUN RUN THIS SATURDAY This Saturday is the BBQ/Fun run hosted by Bill and Karen Neil. I will be leaving Portland on I-205, exit 16 about 8 AM. Is there anyone else going down around that time? Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 17:14:49 2009 From: Gary Callahan To: Tom Hendricksen Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SHED BBQ/RUN RUN THIS SATURDAY I will likely be leaving Beaverton about the same time. Gary Callahan Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Tom Hendricksen wrote: From: Tom Hendricksen Subject: [Roadsters] SHED BBQ/RUN RUN THIS SATURDAY To: "Autox" Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 4:00 PM This Saturday is the BBQ/Fun run hosted by Bill and Karen Neil. I will be leaving Portland on I-205, exit 16 about 8 AM. Is there anyone else going down around that time? Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland You are subscribed as gcallahan@prodigy.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 17:31:12 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil Hi all Simple question. I completely rebuilt my 2k engine, hot tank up. I now have about 250 miles on her, and I'm thinking of using synthetic when I change the oil. What say? Seems logical to me to use either blend of full synthetic, but perhaps a thicker one. Jim NJ 2k 69 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 17:56:43 2009 From: Eric Gillis To: Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:53:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil There is a pretty good article in this month's Grassroots Motorsports. You might be surprised about what is said with synthetics vs. dino juice, and other notes about which oil to use. For instance, higher viscoscities may 'trap' heat more, etc. I have even heard of some preferring oil for diesels (pushrod R16 suggestion only, not mine) I find this information and the 'conventional wisdom' (pun intended) to be a bit of a battle ground. Good luck, I am also ready for my 'first' oil change with a R16 rebuild. I am sure if there aren't many projects being worked upon, that several will chime in. Eric G (I'll be thinkin' with my dipstick, Jimmy!) > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:07 -0700 > From: gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil > > Hi all > > Simple question. I completely rebuilt my 2k engine, hot tank up. > > I now have about 250 miles on her, and I'm thinking of using synthetic when I > change the oil. > > What say? Seems logical to me to use either blend of full synthetic, but > perhaps a thicker one. > > Jim > NJ > 2k 69 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mkiisupra@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 18:26:04 2009 From: Pat Horne To: datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:17:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Visiting Colorado Springs My wife and I will be in Colorado Springs September 30th and October for classes. Anyone want to get together for a visit/meal?Anyone for a meal and visit? Peace, Pat ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 18:26:38 2009 From: Pat Horne To: datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:17:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Visiting the Portland area My wife and I will be flying into Portland for a family reunion from September September 10th and leaving on September 13th. Anyone for a meal and visit? Peace, Pat ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 19:26:27 2009 From: "barterdude" To: , "'datsun Roadster List'" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:19:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Visiting Colorado Springs Hey Pat - we have a rather active WyCROC group with a few in the CSprings area. I might even come down from South Denver metro area. Keep us apprised of your timing and I will relay to our WyCROC group email list. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If the read of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return message, and delete or destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Horne Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:17 PM To: datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Visiting Colorado Springs My wife and I will be in Colorado Springs September 30th and October for classes. Anyone want to get together for a visit/meal?Anyone for a meal and visit? Peace, Pat Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2309 - Release Date: 08/20/09 06:05:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 19:26:58 2009 From: "barterdude" To: "'Jim Gammon'" , "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:20:49 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil Hey Jim - I have been running Royal Purple 20-50w in my 2000 with great success. Runs quick, stays cool and rev's quicker. 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Thank you. 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:23 PM To: Datsun roadster Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil Hi all Simple question. I completely rebuilt my 2k engine, hot tank up. I now have about 250 miles on her, and I'm thinking of using synthetic when I change the oil. What say? Seems logical to me to use either blend of full synthetic, but perhaps a thicker one. Jim NJ 2k 69 Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2309 - Release Date: 08/20/09 06:05:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 19:30:16 2009 From: Bill Cole To: Tom Hendricksen Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:28:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SHED BBQ/RUN RUN THIS SATURDAY Hi Tom, I'll see you at Bill & Karen's around 10:00am. If needed, there is gas and a couple mini-marts on the West side of I-5 at the hwy 34 exit. See you Saturday... Bill ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 19:40:59 2009 From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10)" To: "'barterdude@comcast.net'" , Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil With our testing, royal purple is good oil ----- Original Message ----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net To: 'Jim Gammon' ; 'Datsun roadster' Sent: Thu Aug 20 20:20:49 2009 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil Hey Jim - I have been running Royal Purple 20-50w in my 2000 with great success. Runs quick, stays cool and rev's quicker. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If the read of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return message, and delete or destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:23 PM To: Datsun roadster Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil Hi all Simple question. I completely rebuilt my 2k engine, hot tank up. I now have about 250 miles on her, and I'm thinking of using synthetic when I change the oil. What say? Seems logical to me to use either blend of full synthetic, but perhaps a thicker one. Jim NJ 2k 69 Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2309 - Release Date: 08/20/09 06:05:00 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 20:26:31 2009 From: "barterdude" To: "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:24:29 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose I am tackling restoration of a 1964 Fairlady I got out of Pennsylvania and virtually every nut, bolt, screw, connecting device is RUSTED big time. Wonder what you use to cut through the rust so we can get this detached without having to bust everything in half? Suggestion appreciated. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If the read of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return message, and delete or destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 20:27:35 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil Thanks everyone! Jim --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10) wrote: From: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED10) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil To: "'barterdude@comcast.net'" , "'gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com'" , "'datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net'" Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:33 PM With our testing, royal purple is good oil ----- Original Message ----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net To: 'Jim Gammon' ; 'Datsun roadster' Sent: Thu Aug 20 20:20:49 2009 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil Hey Jim - I have been running Royal Purple 20-50w in my 2000 with great success. Runs quick, stays cool and rev's quicker. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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Seems logical to me to use either blend of full synthetic, but perhaps a thicker one. Jim NJ 2k 69 Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2309 - Release Date: 08/20/09 06:05:00 You are subscribed as phillip.b.hall@nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 20:40:52 2009 From: "barterdude" To: "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:37:04 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] gauge voltage regulator Anyone know of an alternative (Nissan part) that works as the gauge voltage regulator or anyone with a working used one they would sell. Need for 1968 2000. Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If the read of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return message, and delete or destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 20:41:04 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil If I recall correctly, way back when Mobil 1 first came out they ran a Lincoln for 100,000 miles, and never changed the oil, just the filter and added a bit. When they tore down the engine, it was within new engine tolerances. Jim --- On Thu, 8/20/09, oliver wrote: From: oliver Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil To: "Jim Gammon" Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:26 PM jim - i use a semi synthetic made by schaeffer oil. you have to get it from a distributor, and there is a 10? case minimum order, so we usually get together on it. it contains molybdmmmmmm, which functions the same as zinc, and works very well. i use it in my regular beasts as well, and have gone as much as 12k miles without changing, although that's probably not a good idea. http://www.schaefferoil.com/ btw - if you don't know the difference between synthetic and semi synthetic, let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gammon" To: "Datsun roadster" Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Oil > Hi all > > Simple question. I completely rebuilt my 2k engine, hot tank up. > > I now have about 250 miles on her, and I'm thinking of using synthetic when I > change the oil. > > What say? Seems logical to me to use either blend of full synthetic, but > perhaps a thicker one. > > Jim > NJ > 2k 69 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as sumton@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 21:28:55 2009 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: 'Datsun roadster' , barterdude@comcast.net Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose Kroil, PB Blaster, propane torch heat, careful breaking loose with wrenches and sockets that fit well, patience, patience, patience. vince --- On Thu, 8/20/09, barterdude wrote: > From: barterdude > Subject: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > To: "'Datsun roadster'" > Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 9:24 PM > I am tackling restoration of a 1964 > Fairlady I got out of Pennsylvania and > virtually every nut, bolt, screw, connecting device is > RUSTED big time. > Wonder what you use to cut through the rust so we can get > this detached > without having to bust everything in half? > > > > Suggestion appreciated. > > > > Gary Lasater > > founding member www.wycroc.org > > '63 SPL310-300161C > > '63 SPL310-300289B > > '64 SPL310-001289 > > '68 SRL311-11977 > > '69 SRL311-12536 > > '70 SPL311-28169 > > This message is only intended for the use of the > individual or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain information that is > privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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If you have received this communication > in error, please notify > us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return > message, and > delete or destroy all copies of this communication. > Thank you. > > 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this > e-mail > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 20 22:26:30 2009 From: Tim To: Vince Strazzabosco , Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:18:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose Hey Vince, welll put and I say: AMEN BROTHER!! I am at the end of stripping a 69 2000 rust bucket. All I can add is this: Be prepared to replace every single nut and bolt you cannot get apart easily. If it is rusted...the metal has expanded...and will no longer be usable. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Vince Strazzabosco wrote: ============= Kroil, PB Blaster, propane torch heat, careful breaking loose with wrenches and sockets that fit well, patience, patience, patience. vince ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 21 00:14:48 2009 From: "Peter Harrison" To: "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:14:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose One extra thing - once you have 'lubed' the offending nut/bolt - tightening it just a bit - say 1/2 a flat will break the rust and allow extraction - this was shown to me by a guy that restores classic cars and it works nearly every time Peter (Eliza) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Vince Strazzabosco" ; ; "'Datsun roadster'" Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > Hey Vince, welll put and I say: AMEN BROTHER!! > > I am at the end of stripping a 69 2000 rust bucket. > > All I can add is this: Be prepared to replace every single nut and bolt > you cannot get apart easily. If it is rusted...the metal has > expanded...and will no longer be usable. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Vince Strazzabosco wrote: > > ============= > Kroil, PB Blaster, propane torch heat, careful breaking loose with > wrenches > and sockets that fit well, patience, patience, patience. > > vince > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 21 04:42:42 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: "barterdude@comcast.net" Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:38:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose What everyone else said, and soaking overnight. I recent broke free rear drums after 4 nights in a row of kroil, then finally one day....pop! On Aug 20, 2009, at 9:24 PM, "barterdude" wrote: > I am tackling restoration of a 1964 Fairlady I got out of > Pennsylvania and > virtually every nut, bolt, screw, connecting device is RUSTED big > time. > Wonder what you use to cut through the rust so we can get this > detached > without having to bust everything in half? > > > > Suggestion appreciated. > > > > Gary Lasater > > founding member www.wycroc.org > > '63 SPL310-300161C > > '63 SPL310-300289B > > '64 SPL310-001289 > > '68 SRL311-11977 > > '69 SRL311-12536 > > '70 SPL311-28169 > > This message is only intended for the use of the individual or > entity to > which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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I have seen a couple of tests where it works better than any commercial product. keith williams ccfcccs _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b In a message dated 8/20/2009 9:26:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tputland@charter.net writes: Hey Vince, welll put and I say: AMEN BROTHER!! I am at the end of stripping a 69 2000 rust bucket. All I can add is this: Be prepared to replace every single nut and bolt you cannot get apart easily. If it is rusted...the metal has expanded...and will no longer be usable. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Vince Strazzabosco wrote: ============= Kroil, PB Blaster, propane torch heat, careful breaking loose with wrenches and sockets that fit well, patience, patience, patience. vince You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Vince Strazzabosco" ; ; "'Datsun roadster'" Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > Hey Vince, welll put and I say: AMEN BROTHER!! > > I am at the end of stripping a 69 2000 rust bucket. > > All I can add is this: Be prepared to replace every single nut and bolt you cannot get apart easily. If it is rusted...the metal has expanded...and will no longer be usable. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Vince Strazzabosco wrote: > > ============= > Kroil, PB Blaster, propane torch heat, careful breaking loose with wrenches > and sockets that fit well, patience, patience, patience. > > vince ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 21 14:55:32 2009 From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Car won't start after a minute running update Well well well, Here's a new one for me. I replaced all the distributor parts, nope not that. Checked carbs seemed fine. Took off air cleaner and with the car running tried moving each choke/power piston. One was stuck. Figured it was from old gas. Cleaned it and it moved freely. Fired the engine and it stuck. Then decided to swap choke/power pistons and the other carb the piston stuck. I examined each piston and they ARE different. I looked at my 1969 and 1970 1600 and one of the 1966 pistons were like the 69/70. There is a hole in the bottom of the piston but in different spots. For an experiment I put a small piece of gas resistant tubing where the is a actuator for the piston to hold it up so it(piston) does stick from the vacuum. starts instantly every time. Hows that for a weird one. Anyone have or know where I could get the correct piston? 1966 1600 engine with 610A carbs. Thanks ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 21 17:48:58 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Datsun roadster Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:48:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose As Vince said, use patience. But, if you're in a hurry, drill out the bolt heads. I was in a hurry once at a pick-and-pull junkyard, going after fenders and other front- end parts. I brought a battery-powered portable drill, extra batteries and drill bits. Worked great, was done real fast. Of course you'll need new nuts and bolts. Fred - So.SF On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:24 PM, barterdude wrote: > I am tackling restoration of a 1964 Fairlady I got out of > Pennsylvania and > virtually every nut, bolt, screw, connecting device is RUSTED big > time. > Wonder what you use to cut through the rust so we can get this > detached > without having to bust everything in half? > > > > Suggestion appreciated. > > > > Gary Lasater > > founding member www.wycroc.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 21 17:59:21 2009 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: tputland@charter.net, barterdude@comcast.net, Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose I heard about this too and have been meaning to try some. One other thing I didn't mention is being able to use a hammer and punch, etc on the flats of the stuck bolt to hit it straight on and let the shock break the bond. Again, using plenty of penetrating whatever again and again. For some bolts, it helps to scrape or clean the grime or loose rust away to allow better penetration. vince --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Keith0alan@aol.com wrote: > From: Keith0alan@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > To: tputland@charter.net, vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com, barterdude@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 7:43 AM > > > > > > > A 50-50 mix of ATF and acetone works great and is > cheap. I have a spray > bottle of it in the shop. I have seen a couple of tests > where it works better > than any commercial product. > B > keith > williams > ccfcccs > http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org > > bIf > Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b > B > > In a message dated 8/20/2009 9:26:31 P.M. Pacific > Daylight Time, > tputland@charter.net writes: > Hey > Vince, welll put and I say: AMEN BROTHER!! > > I am at the end of stripping > a 69 2000 rust bucket. > > All I can add is this:B Be prepared to > replace every single nut and bolt you cannot get apart > easily. If it is > rusted...the metal has expanded...and will no longer be > usable. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always > learning > > ---- Vince Strazzabosco > wrote: > > > ============= > Kroil, PB Blaster, propane torch heat, careful > breaking loose with wrenches > and sockets that fit well, patience, patience, > patience. > > vince > ________________________________________ > Support > Team.NetB http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as > keith0alan@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing > list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 21 18:25:06 2009 From: "Charles Breault" To: "'Vince Strazzabosco'" , Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:20:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose "better penetration" I'm not saying anything. Charlie B. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Vince Strazzabosco Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:59 PM To: tputland@charter.net; barterdude@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; Keith0alan@aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose I heard about this too and have been meaning to try some. One other thing I didn't mention is being able to use a hammer and punch, etc on the flats of the stuck bolt to hit it straight on and let the shock break the bond. Again, using plenty of penetrating whatever again and again. For some bolts, it helps to scrape or clean the grime or loose rust away to allow better penetration. vince --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Keith0alan@aol.com wrote: > From: Keith0alan@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > To: tputland@charter.net, vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com, barterdude@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 7:43 AM > > > > > > > A 50-50 mix of ATF and acetone works great and is > cheap. I have a spray > bottle of it in the shop. I have seen a couple of tests > where it works better > than any commercial product. > B > keith > williams > ccfcccs > http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org > > bIf > Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b > B > > In a message dated 8/20/2009 9:26:31 P.M. Pacific > Daylight Time, > tputland@charter.net writes: > Hey > Vince, welll put and I say: AMEN BROTHER!! > > I am at the end of stripping > a 69 2000 rust bucket. > > All I can add is this:B Be prepared to > replace every single nut and bolt you cannot get apart > easily. If it is > rusted...the metal has expanded...and will no longer be > usable. > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always > learning > > ---- Vince Strazzabosco > wrote: > > > ============= > Kroil, PB Blaster, propane torch heat, careful > breaking loose with wrenches > and sockets that fit well, patience, patience, > patience. > > vince > ________________________________________ > Support > Team.NetB http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as > keith0alan@aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing > list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as vze2fhba@verizon.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 21 21:19:37 2009 From: Chris Davies To: Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:15:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wind Deflectors Hi. I've decided to come out of lurk mode and ask a question to my fellow Roadsterites. Since finishing my restoration last year I drive the car as much as possible from spring till fall. The only problem is that I live in northern B.C. and that means driving in 50-70 degree temperatures a lot of the time. Of course there isn't any point in driving a sports car with the top up. This brings me to the question of some kind of air deflector. I don't like all that cold air blowing over the windshield and coming back to hit me in the back of my neck. My wife won't even ride in the car because of this. And that it messes up her hair. My car is a 67.5 but didn't come with any sun visors or headrests. A buddy told me that the visors on his old vette deflected the air quite well. Would this help at all on the Datsun? Another thought that I had was to build a roll bar for the car and install a piece of lexan or something between the two uprights and from the floor to the top of the bar. Anyone out there do anything like this? A fellow in town with a Miata built something along these lines out of wood with kind of mesh screen in the centre. He seems to like it. I guess a set of Miata seats may help as they are high enough to block the wind at your neck. I see that a lot of the new sports cars have things that install behind or between the seats to stop all the wind. Some even appear to have power windows that go up between the seats. Any and all thoughts and ideas would be greatly appreciated. Pictures of what you have would also be great. I don't want to go to all the trouble of building a roll bar and deflector if it won't work. Thanks in advance Chris Davies Kitimat B.C. _________________________________________________________________ Stay on top of things, check email from other accounts! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671355 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 21 21:56:09 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: , Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:55:31 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Wind Deflectors I think I've posted this before, it is a deflector I saw at Laguna Seca. I also have a pic of a more traditional plexiglass rig.Front http://community.webshots.com/photo/553311811/2453408140094396073rsyZvD Back http://community.webshots.com/photo/553311811/2984576710094396073wfJgHb http://community.webshots.com/photo/553311811/2489187690094396073MElzmw Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 > From: fairlady_67@hotmail.com > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:15:33 -0700 > Subject: [Roadsters] Wind Deflectors > > Hi. > > I've decided to come out of lurk mode and ask a question to my fellow > Roadsterites. Since finishing my restoration last year I drive the car as much > as possible from spring till fall. The only problem is that I live in northern > B.C. and that means driving in 50-70 degree temperatures a lot of the time. Of > course there isn't any point in driving a sports car with the top up. > > This brings me to the question of some kind of air deflector. I don't like > all that cold air blowing over the windshield and coming back to hit me in the > back of my neck. My wife won't even ride in the car because of this. And that > it messes up her hair. My car is a 67.5 but didn't come with any sun visors or > headrests. A buddy told me that the visors on his old vette deflected the air > quite well. Would this help at all on the Datsun? Another thought that I had > was to build a roll bar for the car and install a piece of lexan or something > between the two uprights and from the floor to the top of the bar. Anyone out > there do anything like this? A fellow in town with a Miata built something > along these lines out of wood with kind of mesh screen in the centre. He seems > to like it. I guess a set of Miata seats may help as they are high enough to > block the wind at your neck. > > I see that a lot of the new sports cars have things that install behind or > between the seats to stop all the wind. Some even appear to have power windows > that go up between the seats. Any and all thoughts and ideas would be greatly > appreciated. Pictures of what you have would also be great. I don't want to go > to all the trouble of building a roll bar and deflector if it won't work. > > > > Thanks in advance > > Chris Davies > > Kitimat B.C. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay on top of things, check email from other accounts! > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671355 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as alvingogi@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 21 23:54:08 2009 From: geegc@aol.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Hood release cables two questions -- Do you have to take the cable out of the sheaf to grease it up or is there an easier way? Someone a while ago (years) suggested a way to put in a back up hood release just in case the regular release fails (as mine almost did today).? Anyone remember what it was? Thanks Gary C (66 1600) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 00:24:12 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List , Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:19:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hood release cables Nice writeup, with pictures, courtesy of Dave Kaplan.......on 311s.org. http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.BackupHoodRelease ----- Original Message ----- From: > Someone a while ago (years) suggested a way to put in a back up hood > release just in case the regular release fails (as mine almost did > today).? Anyone remember what it was? > > Thanks > > Gary C (66 1600) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 09:16:17 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: dboerst@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:13:46 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Car won't start after a minute running update There are two pistons. One for the carbs with the guide pin on the side and one for the carbs with the guide pin on the front. You may have mismatched carbs on the car. Remove the domes and pistons and check the carbs to see where the guide pins are. The little rubber bumper on the face of the pisto n should rest on the high area where the nozzle comes through. If it is toward the front or back then you have the wrong piston. If after sorting through your carbs you find you have an incorrect one I do have some extras. keith williams ccfcccs _http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org_ (http://www.clarkcountyferalcats.org/) bIf Not Us, Then Who? If Not Now, Then When?b In a message dated 8/21/2009 1:55:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dboerst@yahoo.com writes: Well well well, Here's a new one for me. I replaced all the distributor parts, nope not that. Checked carbs seemed fine. Took off air cleaner and with the car running tried moving each choke/power piston. One was stuck. Figured it was from old gas. Cleaned it and it moved freely. Fired the engine and it stuck. Then decided to swap choke/power pistons and the other carb the piston stuck. I examined each piston and they ARE different. I looked at my 1969 and 1970 1600 and one of the 1966 pistons were like the 69/70. There is a hole in the bottom of the piston but in different spots. For an experiment I put a small piece of gas resistant tubing where the is a actuator for the piston to hold it up so it(piston) does stick from the vacuum. starts instantly every time. Hows that for a weird one. Anyone have or know where I could get the correct piston? 1966 1600 engine with 610A carbs. Thanks You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 11:58:27 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:57:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] No brake lights I have tail lights and turn signal lights, but no brake lights. The turn signals are slow but do work. The rear harness is grounded to the frame and the plugs and wires all look good. I have tried two different brake pedal switches (one was new and both tested good) and neither has worked. All fuses are good. (but my horn no longer works as well) Help!!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 12:17:34 2009 From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 344 --- On Sat, 8/22/09, datsun-roadsters-request@autox.team.net wrote: > From: datsun-roadsters-request@autox.team.net > Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 344 > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:00 PM > Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list > submissions to > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > datsun-roadsters-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. No brake lights (Tim) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:57:53 -0700 > From: Tim > Subject: [Roadsters] No brake lights > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > > Message-ID: <20090822135753.5UP3D.3895668.root@mp14> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I have tail lights and turn signal lights, but no brake > lights. The turn signals are slow but do work. > > The rear harness is grounded to the frame and the plugs and > wires all look good. I have tried two different brake pedal > switches (one was new and both tested good) and neither has > worked. All fuses are good. (but my horn no longer works as > well) > > Help!!! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 344 > ************************************************ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 12:24:44 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Fred Katz'" , "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:22:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose If you have reverse-twist drill bits, sometimes just trying to drill the bolt head with one of these will generate enough torque/heat to break the bolt loose. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Katz Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:48 PM To: Datsun roadster Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose As Vince said, use patience. But, if you're in a hurry, drill out the bolt heads. I was in a hurry once at a pick-and-pull junkyard, going after fenders and other front- end parts. I brought a battery-powered portable drill, extra batteries and drill bits. Worked great, was done real fast. Of course you'll need new nuts and bolts. Fred - So.SF On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:24 PM, barterdude wrote: > I am tackling restoration of a 1964 Fairlady I got out of > Pennsylvania and > virtually every nut, bolt, screw, connecting device is RUSTED big > time. > Wonder what you use to cut through the rust so we can get this > detached > without having to bust everything in half? > > > > Suggestion appreciated. > > > > Gary Lasater > > founding member www.wycroc.org Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 12:33:10 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:32:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] gas filler neck I want to switch to the filler neck from my 69 part car so I can use one of my locking chrome gas caps (these don't stay on the filler neck from a 70--don't ask me how I know...). The neck I have has a fair amount of rust on the inside. What, if anything, should I do about the rust? Should I clean it out as best I can and leave it? Or is there something, like POR15, that I could use to treat the inside of the neck? Or will anything I try to treat with eventually end up in the gas tank? TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 12:54:53 2009 From: Tim To: oliver , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:54:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gas filler neck I have an organic rust remover that works great. My concern is the rust re-appearing. Whould I not worry about that, or should I treat with some thing to inhibit and then have to worry about that stuff eventually getting lose and into the tank... -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- oliver wrote: ============= if the neck is a separate part you can soak it with this stuff. will remove all rust. http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN3628.JPG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:32 PM Subject: [Roadsters] gas filler neck >I want to switch to the filler neck from my 69 part car so I can use one of >my locking chrome gas caps (these don't stay on the filler neck from a >70--don't ask me how I know...). > > The neck I have has a fair amount of rust on the inside. What, if > anything, should I do about the rust? Should I clean it out as best I can > and leave it? Or is there something, like POR15, that I could use to treat > the inside of the neck? Or will anything I try to treat with eventually > end up in the gas tank? > > TIA > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as sumton@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 13:10:56 2009 From: ljordan704@aim.com To: tputland@charter.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:10:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights Check to see if your alternator is charging the battery. If it is not then the battery gets too low to run things like turn signals etc. The turn signals will run faster with a fully charged battery then a low one. If it is low enough they don't work at all. I know because I have been dealing with an alt issue lately, and that has been my experience. ?Of course it could be something else, but this one thing to check. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:57 am Subject: [Roadsters] No brake lights I have tail lights and turn signal lights, but no brake lights. The turn signals are slow but do work. The rear harness is grounded to the frame and the plugs and wires all look good. I have tried two different brake pedal switches (one was new and both tested good) and neither has worked. All fuses are good. (but my horn no longer works as well) Help!!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning You are subscribed as ljordan704@aim.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 13:55:09 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:54:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights I am pretty sure I have found the correct connector and it seems to be in great shape especially considering how rough my 2000 is elsewhere. I still don't have lights or horn. How does one go about cleaning one of these 8 pin connectors? I may as well do this since the seat and steering wheel are out of the car. Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 14:10:21 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Gordon Glasgow" , "'Fred Katz'" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:06:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose Another trick which can work is vibration -- an air hammer using an appropriate diameter flat tip. Tough to keep the tool on the bolt head, but sometimes it's enough. Can'y say enough about the patience recommendations: iron oxide is a lot harder than the base metal, so once the fastener starts to move, carefully working it in a little an dout a little, combined with additional penetrating oil or whatever penetrant you're using, is a key consideration. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Fred Katz'" ; "'Datsun roadster'" Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > If you have reverse-twist drill bits, sometimes just trying to drill the > bolt head with one of these will generate enough torque/heat to break the > bolt loose. > > Gordon Glasgow > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Katz > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:48 PM > To: Datsun roadster > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > > As Vince said, use patience. > > But, if you're in a hurry, drill out the bolt heads. I was in a hurry > once at a pick-and-pull junkyard, going after fenders and other front- > end parts. I brought a battery-powered portable drill, extra batteries > and drill bits. Worked great, was done real fast. Of course you'll > need new nuts and bolts. > > Fred - So.SF > On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:24 PM, barterdude wrote: > >> I am tackling restoration of a 1964 Fairlady I got out of >> Pennsylvania and >> virtually every nut, bolt, screw, connecting device is RUSTED big >> time. >> Wonder what you use to cut through the rust so we can get this >> detached >> without having to bust everything in half? >> >> >> >> Suggestion appreciated. >> >> >> >> Gary Lasater >> >> founding member www.wycroc.org > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 14:11:04 2009 From: Vince Strazzabosco To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights Don't laugh... I've used a packet of Taco Bell mild taco sauce squirted into the connector and let sit for a day to remove some hard corrosion. Then once it was cleaned out and dry, I used an emery board (nail) file cut to fit into the connector to further clean the contacts. vince --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Tim wrote: > From: Tim > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 2:54 PM > I am pretty sure I have found the > correct connector and it seems to be in great shape > especially considering how rough my 2000 is elsewhere. > > I still don't have lights or horn. > > How does one go about cleaning one of these 8 pin > connectors? I may as well do this since the seat and > steering wheel are out of the car. > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vstrazzabosco@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 14:48:49 2009 From: "Richard Brown" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:47:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights On the 69 the same fuse works the brake lights and the horn. I would check that you have power at the fuse box. Bottom left fuse on the 69. Richard Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:57 PM Subject: [Roadsters] No brake lights >I have tail lights and turn signal lights, but no brake lights. The turn >signals are slow but do work. > > The rear harness is grounded to the frame and the plugs and wires all look > good. I have tried two different brake pedal switches (one was new and > both tested good) and neither has worked. All fuses are good. (but my horn > no longer works as well) > > Help!!! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as reblues@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 17:26:46 2009 From: "Ed Mitchell" To: Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:26:14 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] repost request Hi All, I'm looking for a Window Sales Sticker for a Datsun roadster - 60's era If it's just a picture.or some sort of visual. I'd like to reproduce and aged one for my car.1967.5 Roadster 1600 But I need something to go by I pitched this out earlier...and got a response from someone who thought they had one.but never got a further response Found this on the web. (gotta luv google) http://www.frontiernet.net/~asg/stick_samp/samples.htm But I want to make this.so I can get it as authentic as possible.(and only You and I will know I'm a sticker fraud) : ) But I'm looking for true authenticity.and would like a vintage look I can create myself.maybe drop in a few Japanese fonts : ) wrinkle it up a bit.pour some coffee on it to age it.etc I'm hoping to go for my first entered show in October - http://www.zianet.com/rtrd/index.htm Any ideas or examples would be greatly appreciated Oh.Got dead betty back up and running after the Coil Explosion.and got her up to 110mph.totally clenched and puckered.but she did it - woo hoo : ) Thanks all Ed Mitchell Las Cruces, NM 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 http://www.ziaroc.com/ <--8 member strong WOOT! : ) http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) photo updates coming soon ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 17:34:32 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: Ed Mitchell Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:34:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] repost request Ed, Here's a link to the thread on this topic on the 311s website. I got a copy of one from a guy named Bucky. He reproduced it nicely from an old faded original. Check out the thread for his info... http://311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10281 -Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Ed Mitchell wrote: > Hi All, > > > > I'm looking for a Window Sales Sticker for a Datsun roadster - 60's era > > > > If it's just a picture.or some sort of visual. > > > > I'd like to reproduce and aged one for my car.1967.5 Roadster 1600 > > > > But I need something to go by > > > > I pitched this out earlier...and got a response from someone who thought > they had one.but never got a further response > > > > Found this on the web. (gotta luv google) > http://www.frontiernet.net/~asg/stick_samp/samples.htm > > > > But I want to make this.so I can get it as authentic as possible.(and only > You and I will know I'm a sticker fraud) : ) > > > > But I'm looking for true authenticity.and would like a vintage look I can > create myself.maybe drop in a few Japanese fonts : ) wrinkle it up a > bit.pour some coffee on it to age it.etc > > > > I'm hoping to go for my first entered show in October - > http://www.zianet.com/rtrd/index.htm > > > > > > Any ideas or examples would be greatly appreciated > > > > Oh.Got dead betty back up and running after the Coil Explosion.and got her > up to 110mph.totally clenched and puckered.but she did it - woo hoo : ) > > > > > > > > Thanks all > > > > Ed Mitchell > > Las Cruces, NM > > 1967.5 Datsun Roadster 1600 - SPL311-12761 > > > > http://www.ziaroc.com/ <--8 member strong WOOT! : ) > > > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG <--Dead Betty : ) > photo > updates coming soon > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cookefam314@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 19:14:21 2009 From: Pat Horne To: Tim Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:09:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gas filler neck You might consider taking it to a plating shop and see what they would charge you to plate it with something non-rusting, such as galvanizing, cad plating, or the like. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Tim, On 8/22/2009 1:54 PM: > I have an organic rust remover that works great. My concern is the rust re-appearing. Whould I not worry about that, or should I treat with some thing to inhibit and then have to worry about that stuff eventually getting lose and into the tank... > -- > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- oliver wrote: > > ============= > if the neck is a separate part you can soak it with this stuff. will remove > all rust. > > http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/datsun/DSCN3628.JPG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim" > To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:32 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] gas filler neck > > > >> I want to switch to the filler neck from my 69 part car so I can use one of >> my locking chrome gas caps (these don't stay on the filler neck from a >> 70--don't ask me how I know...). >> >> The neck I have has a fair amount of rust on the inside. What, if >> anything, should I do about the rust? Should I clean it out as best I can >> and leave it? Or is there something, like POR15, that I could use to treat >> the inside of the neck? Or will anything I try to treat with eventually >> end up in the gas tank? >> >> TIA >> >> Tim >> Belleville, WI. >> '70 SPL AND SRL >> Still clueless but always learning >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as sumton@sbcglobal.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 19:30:12 2009 From: Pat Horne To: Tim Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:25:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights Tim, I'd use a meter to verify that the tail lights are really grounded. Turn on the tail lights and check the voltage on the ground wire at the tail lights. It should be well less than one volt. If that is OK, short out the turn signal flasher so that it doesn't flash (short the 2 pins together), turn on the turn signals for one side and check the voltage at the bulbs. It should be close to battery voltage. Check the other side. With the engine running the battery voltage should be about 13.6 volts. With the engine off, it may be as low as 11 volts, but will probably be around 12 volts. Someone already mentioned the fuse box as a possibility. To check that, connect a volt meter to the input of the brake light switch. Step on the brakes and see what the voltage reads. It should be close to battery voltage. If it is good, try the output of the switch. It should read the same. Next check the voltage at the brake light bulbs. It should be close. There are various connectors hidden in our cars that generally don't give problems but can. It may me a connector problem, but not always. I am not familiar with the high windshield cars, but do know electrics quite well and can help you. Whatever - if any- of these readings are out of whack, please let me know and I can walk you through the next level of troubleshooting. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Tim, On 8/22/2009 12:57 PM: > I have tail lights and turn signal lights, but no brake lights. The turn signals are slow but do work. > > The rear harness is grounded to the frame and the plugs and wires all look good. I have tried two different brake pedal switches (one was new and both tested good) and neither has worked. All fuses are good. (but my horn no longer works as well) > > Help!!! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 20:15:51 2009 From: Tim To: Ed Mitchell , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:15:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] repost request--C & P!! "clenched and puckered" what else can you say? what else is there? maybe needles in the feet? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 20:24:59 2009 From: "oliver" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:20:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gas filler neck ceramic coating??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" To: "Tim" Cc: "oliver" ; "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gas filler neck > You might consider taking it to a plating shop and see what they would > charge you to plate it with something non-rusting, such as galvanizing, > cad plating, or the like. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Tim, On 8/22/2009 1:54 PM: >> I have an organic rust remover that works great. My concern is the rust >> re-appearing. Whould I not worry about that, or should I treat with some >> thing to inhibit and then have to worry about that stuff eventually >> getting lose and into the tank... >> -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 23:11:59 2009 From: ljordan704@aim.com To: tputland@charter.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:09:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights Tim, You'd be amazed at how corroded those connectors can be. Since eventually you will likely get around to cleaning them all, I'd recommend getting some connectors and some replacement pins & their connectors because if the ones in your car are badly corroded or the wire is barely hanging on, or you break one you have to replace them anyway. Dean has a kit, also vintageconnections.com has replacement male and female connectors and the white plastic connectors Otherwise you can get a tiny jewelers screwdriver , and with the battery disconnected, put it into the pin side of the connector and press the little tab down flat, then push on the pin (do not pull on the wire!) and it should slide out. it takes some practice. Then I used a Dremel with a small wire brush to clean up the tab. Do one and put it back so you don't get them mixed up. Dielectric grease on the pins helps protect them. I tried? electric contact spray first on the electrical connectors but it only does half the job if the pin is corroded where you can't see it. I'd also clean the metal horn contact under the steering wheel, as well as the tabs on each horn. Then there is the horn relay, I cleaned the tabs and underneath as well where there is metal. That should keep you busy for awhile LOL Harbor Freight has those little wire brushes for the Dremel. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:54 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights I am pretty sure I have found the correct connector and it seems to be in great shape especially considering how rough my 2000 is elsewhere. I still don't have lights or horn. How does one go about cleaning one of these 8 pin connectors? I may as well do this since the seat and steering wheel are out of the car. Tim You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 22 23:56:42 2009 From: Gary Boone To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights I haven't followed every detail of this thread but a very common problem with no brake lights is a bad brake light switch or the switch position needs adjustment relative to the brake pedal lever position. It's position can be adjusted with the 2 nuts on the threaded shaft. Check the continuity of the switch when you depress the brake pedal. Gary ________________________________ From: "ljordan704@aim.com" To: tputland@charter.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:09:39 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights Tim, You'd be amazed at how corroded those connectors can be. Since eventually you will likely get around to cleaning them all, I'd recommend getting some connectors and some replacement pins & their connectors because if the ones in your car are badly corroded or the wire is barely hanging on, or you break one you have to replace them anyway. Dean has a kit, also vintageconnections.com has replacement male and female connectors and the white plastic connectors Otherwise you can get a tiny jewelers screwdriver , and with the battery disconnected, put it into the pin side of the connector and press the little tab down flat, then push on the pin (do not pull on the wire!) and it should slide out. it takes some practice. Then I used a Dremel with a small wire brush to clean up the tab. Do one and put it back so you don't get them mixed up. Dielectric grease on the pins helps protect them. I tried? electric contact spray first on the electrical connectors but it only does half the job if the pin is corroded where you can't see it. I'd also clean the metal horn contact under the steering wheel, as well as the tabs on each horn. Then there is the horn relay, I cleaned the tabs and underneath as well where there is metal. That should keep you busy for awhile LOL Harbor Freight has those little wire brushes for the Dremel. Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 23 08:00:47 2009 From: Robert Keen To: Tim Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights Tim- Richard Brown provided a big clue with the horn and brake lights sharing a common fuse. On our 68 1600, the horn switch disassembled itself so that the horn began to honk continuously. I removed the horn fuse to stop the honking; that also caused the brake lights to stop functioning. After repairing the horn switch, I reinstalled the fuse, and the brake lights began to work again. If you have power at the common fuse, then the problem may lie in the wiring between the fuse and the point where the brake light and horn lines are separated. --Bob =============================== On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Tim wrote: > I have tail lights and turn signal lights, but no brake lights. The turn signals are slow but do work. > > The rear harness is grounded to the frame and the plugs and wires all look good. I have tried two different brake pedal switches (one was new and both tested good) and neither has worked. All fuses are good. (but my horn no longer works as well) > > Help!!! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rekeen@mtu.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 23 08:59:38 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Tim , Roadster List Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:59:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] No brake lights > Tim. > > The rear harness is grounded to the frame and the plugs and wires all look good. I have tried two different brake pedal switches (one was new and both tested good) and neither has worked. All fuses are good. (but my horn no longer works as well) > > Help!!! First, if you haven't printed one of the color wiring diagrams for your year and model available on 311s.org, I'd suggest you do so. They're in PDF format and scale up very well. I've got several 11 x 17 and a couple blown up to around 4 ft. x 6 ft, all laminated. The 11 x 17 size was only a couple of bucks including lamination. The larger sizes aren't cheap, but worth it, IMO. I just tape it on a wall and it's easy to identify and trace circuits. You should be able to jump the two wires normally attached to the brake light switch. If your brake lights still don't come on something other than the switch is the problem. If you use a wire with alligator clips on it to do the jumping, be sure the wire's at least as heavy as the wires you're tying together. 14 gauge should be fine for testing most circuits. It's a good idea to have a digital volt/ohm meter in your tool kit. You can you use it to not only check voltages, but continuity as well to determine if switches are working. I also bought a test lead kit that includes a variety of clips, clamps and probes so you can do hands free tests. A 12 volt test light (looks like an ice pick with a wire attached) is great for quick checks, too. You can do spot voltage checks along a circuit with either device, but it's better to start at one end of a circuit or the other and work toward the other end. HTH, Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 23 14:47:44 2009 From: "May, Frank" To: "Ed Mitchell" , Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:46:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] First Posting to Group To all, I have a 1969 Datsun 2000 which I purchased 9/14/1969 and want to restore. I had a front end collision in 1971 and have all new sheet metal parts (fenders, hood, etc) which I acquired about 1972 but never put on the car. The motor has not been run since about 1974. Car has been garaged all these years, so it's not a "rust bucket," but lots of stuff has occurred just by sitting. I have some mechanical skills, but this project is beyond what I'll tackle by myself. Can you recommend a source which will do: a) body restoration; b) mechanical restoration; c) interior (soft) restoration? Mechanical work would be broken down into motor, transmission, hydraulics, etc.? About the car--------- RE: http://datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm My car is SRL311-12936. According to the link above, serial numbers for 1969 are: 69 2000 SRL311-07001 to 13000 with the note: No vins found between SRL311 - 12944 and SRL311 - 13000. >From this information, what are the chances that serial numbers 12937 to 12943 are still in existence? Can I legitimately claim that I have the last Datsun 2000 built as a 1969 model - (and that it's also uniquely a one-owner car)? Frank May St. Louis County, Missouri Frank.L.May@umsl.edu [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of IMG_5423.JPG] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 23 15:15:34 2009 From: ljordan704@aim.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:13:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Shakedown Cruise I posted about the cruise I took today in my car on 311 site http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10475&sid=d2f59bb57ee0f745b07b020ae7d504b6 So after having the car for forever, it is finally getting to the point of being a real driver. Cool! Linda ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 23 19:47:31 2009 From: Eddie To: "May, Frank" Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:46:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] First Posting to Group Mike Young. He's the guy I'd send it to if you want a total restoration. Eddie May, Frank wrote: > To all, > > I have a 1969 Datsun 2000 which I purchased 9/14/1969 and want to restore. I > had a front end collision in 1971 and have all new sheet metal parts (fenders, > hood, etc) which I acquired about 1972 but never put on the car. The motor > has not been run since about 1974. Car has been garaged all these years, so > it's not a "rust bucket," but lots of stuff has occurred just by sitting. I > have some mechanical skills, but this project is beyond what I'll tackle by > myself. > > Can you recommend a source which will do: a) body restoration; b) mechanical > restoration; c) interior (soft) restoration? Mechanical work would be broken > down into motor, transmission, hydraulics, etc.? > > About the car--------- > > RE: http://datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm > > My car is SRL311-12936. According to the link above, serial numbers for 1969 > are: 69 2000 SRL311-07001 to 13000 with the note: No vins found between > SRL311 - 12944 and SRL311 - 13000. > > >From this information, what are the chances that serial numbers 12937 to 12943 > are still in existence? Can I legitimately claim that I have the last Datsun > 2000 built as a 1969 model - (and that it's also uniquely a one-owner car)? > > Frank May > > St. Louis County, Missouri > > Frank.L.May@umsl.edu > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of IMG_5423.JPG] > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 23 20:09:54 2009 From: To: , Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:06:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] First Posting to Group Hi Frank: Your car and mine must have seen each other on the assembly line. Mine is SRL311-12932.I live in eastern Ontario in Canada though. My car was sold in Guelph, Ontario located between Toronto and Windsor. I have only owned mine since the early '80s. I do have a lot of the original information including warranty books etc. Good luck on the restoration. Fred Davidson 1969 SRL 2000 - white > Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:46:50 -0500 > From: Frank.L.May@umsl.edu > To: edmitche@gmail.com; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] First Posting to Group > > To all, > > I have a 1969 Datsun 2000 which I purchased 9/14/1969 and want to restore. I > had a front end collision in 1971 and have all new sheet metal parts (fenders, > hood, etc) which I acquired about 1972 but never put on the car. The motor > has not been run since about 1974. Car has been garaged all these years, so > it's not a "rust bucket," but lots of stuff has occurred just by sitting. I > have some mechanical skills, but this project is beyond what I'll tackle by > myself. > > Can you recommend a source which will do: a) body restoration; b) mechanical > restoration; c) interior (soft) restoration? Mechanical work would be broken > down into motor, transmission, hydraulics, etc.? > > About the car--------- > > RE: http://datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm > > My car is SRL311-12936. According to the link above, serial numbers for 1969 > are: 69 2000 SRL311-07001 to 13000 with the note: No vins found between > SRL311 - 12944 and SRL311 - 13000. > > >From this information, what are the chances that serial numbers 12937 to 12943 > are still in existence? Can I legitimately claim that I have the last Datsun > 2000 built as a 1969 model - (and that it's also uniquely a one-owner car)? > > Frank May > > St. Louis County, Missouri > > Frank.L.May@umsl.edu > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of IMG_5423.JPG] > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fred.davidson@sympatico.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 23 22:39:45 2009 From: Fred Katz To: "May, Frank" Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:36:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] First Posting to Group According to the roadster registry at http://311s.org/ they list 5 1969 cars in the range SRL-13000 thru SRL-13985, which are probably 1970 cars but I have no idea why the owners thought they were 1969 cars. The listing for 1970 shows at least 5 cars less than SRL-13000, which were probably 1969 cars sold and tagged as 1970 cars. The nearest number to yours on the 1969 list is SRL-12932. Maybe yours is the last one around as a 1969 model. (Keep in mind the listing entries are contributed by roadster owners, there probably are other cars out there that are not listed.) Fred - So.SF (I once had SRL-13050, an early 1970 car) On Aug 23, 2009, at 1:46 PM, May, Frank wrote: > To all, > > I have a 1969 Datsun 2000 which I purchased 9/14/1969 and want to > restore. I > had a front end collision in 1971 and have all new sheet metal parts > (fenders, > hood, etc) which I acquired about 1972 but never put on the car. > The motor > has not been run since about 1974. Car has been garaged all these > years, so > it's not a "rust bucket," but lots of stuff has occurred just by > sitting. I > have some mechanical skills, but this project is beyond what I'll > tackle by > myself. > > Can you recommend a source which will do: a) body restoration; b) > mechanical > restoration; c) interior (soft) restoration? Mechanical work would > be broken > down into motor, transmission, hydraulics, etc.? > > About the car--------- > > RE: http://datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm > > My car is SRL311-12936. According to the link above, serial numbers > for 1969 > are: 69 2000 SRL311-07001 to 13000 with the note: No vins found > between > SRL311 - 12944 and SRL311 - 13000. > >> From this information, what are the chances that serial numbers >> 12937 to 12943 > are still in existence? Can I legitimately claim that I have the > last Datsun > 2000 built as a 1969 model - (and that it's also uniquely a one- > owner car)? > > Frank May > > St. Louis County, Missouri > > Frank.L.May@umsl.edu ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 01:10:36 2009 From: Scott McGillivray To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:07:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Vancouver BC "Day Cruise" - Sunday August 30 We have a high number of roadsters in or near Vancouver BC and I can't remember any group day trips, so here goes... *When* : Sunday, August 30, 10am departure time. *Meet at* : A & W in Maple Ridge, corner of Lougheed Highway and 228th Street. *Destination* : Harrison Hot Springs (50 miles one-way) - 5 roadsters already confirmed, expect more now that I've posted here. - Leaving the A & W at 10am sharp so show up early if you want breakfast. - Weather permitting, of course. - Maybe pit-stop at the Sasquatch Inn? -Scott 1969 SPL311 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 08:25:18 2009 From: "Jim Svedise" To: "Mike & Jack Young" , "Datsun Club" Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:24:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: First Posting to Group I will second that you can not get much better of a restoration guy than Mike and Jack Young. Jim 70 2000 > Mike Young. He's the guy I'd send it to if you want a total restoration. > > Eddie > > May, Frank wrote: >> To all, >> >> I have a 1969 Datsun 2000 which I purchased 9/14/1969 and want to >> restore. I >> had a front end collision in 1971 and have all new sheet metal parts >> (fenders, >> hood, etc) which I acquired about 1972 but never put on the car. The >> motor >> has not been run since about 1974. Car has been garaged all these years, >> so >> it's not a "rust bucket," but lots of stuff has occurred just by sitting. >> I >> have some mechanical skills, but this project is beyond what I'll tackle >> by >> myself. >> >> Can you recommend a source which will do: a) body restoration; b) >> mechanical >> restoration; c) interior (soft) restoration? Mechanical work would be >> broken >> down into motor, transmission, hydraulics, etc.? >> >> About the car--------- >> >> RE: http://datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm >> >> My car is SRL311-12936. According to the link above, serial numbers for >> 1969 >> are: 69 2000 SRL311-07001 to 13000 with the note: No vins found between >> SRL311 - 12944 and SRL311 - 13000. >> >> >From this information, what are the chances that serial numbers 12937 to >> >12943 >> are still in existence? Can I legitimately claim that I have the last >> Datsun >> 2000 built as a 1969 model - (and that it's also uniquely a one-owner >> car)? >> >> Frank May >> >> St. Louis County, Missouri >> >> Frank.L.May@umsl.edu ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 09:06:12 2009 From: "Steve Landuyt" To: "'May, Frank'" , "'Ed Mitchell'" Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:05:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] First Posting to Group There are a few craftsmen known for quality restorations on Datsun roadsters. Les Cannady of Classic Datsun Motorsports in Vista, CA, is one of the best. Here is his website: http://classicdatsun.com/ BTW, I have the same year roadster, but purchased it a few years later than you did in 1971. Enjoy your restoration. Regards, Steve Landuyt '69 2000 San Diego, CA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of May, Frank Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:47 PM To: Ed Mitchell; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] First Posting to Group To all, I have a 1969 Datsun 2000 which I purchased 9/14/1969 and want to restore. I had a front end collision in 1971 and have all new sheet metal parts (fenders, hood, etc) which I acquired about 1972 but never put on the car. The motor has not been run since about 1974. Car has been garaged all these years, so it's not a "rust bucket," but lots of stuff has occurred just by sitting. I have some mechanical skills, but this project is beyond what I'll tackle by myself. Can you recommend a source which will do: a) body restoration; b) mechanical restoration; c) interior (soft) restoration? Mechanical work would be broken down into motor, transmission, hydraulics, etc.? About the car--------- RE: http://datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm My car is SRL311-12936. According to the link above, serial numbers for 1969 are: 69 2000 SRL311-07001 to 13000 with the note: No vins found between SRL311 - 12944 and SRL311 - 13000. >From this information, what are the chances that serial numbers 12937 to 12943 are still in existence? Can I legitimately claim that I have the last Datsun 2000 built as a 1969 model - (and that it's also uniquely a one-owner car)? Frank May St. Louis County, Missouri Frank.L.May@umsl.edu [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of IMG_5423.JPG] You are subscribed as stl@adnc.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4361 (20090823) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 10:40:15 2009 From: Dana Scribner To: , drone Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:38:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Silicon brake fluid I just talked to a man who has changed the brake system on his 1947 Packard over from DOT 3 to a silicon base fluid. He stated that he and some of the other Packard people are having problem with thier stop light switch. They think it has to with the switch not being compatible with the silicon base fluid. Has anyone heard about tis or had the same problem? Dana S '69 2K _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackTo School_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 10:56:31 2009 From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1966 Roadster Top Bows wanted I am looking for a set of top bows for a 1966 1600 Roadster. I think 1965 thru 1967 1/2 will fit. Also tops for 1966 and 1968-70 SPL311s. Email me @ dboerst@yahoo.com Thanks! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 17:42:31 2009 From: Ron Hamilton To: Dana Scribner Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:45:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Silicon brake fluid have used silicone and there are a couple of things to remember; Silicone fluid has the propensity to retain minute bubbles of air if it isn't poured and bled* very *slowly which causes a spongy pedal. It also expands with heat and compresses under pressure unlike regular brake fluid. I used it to protect the finish of my cars as it isn't chemically reactive(like brake fluid) to anything that I know of, so seals last forever and if some gets on the finish just wipe it off. Systems that have had regular fluid in them before need to be very thoroughly washed out before using silicone. By the way, I have a gallon of military grade silicone fluid left if someone is interested. Dana Scribner wrote: > I just talked to a man who has changed the brake system on his 1947 Packard > over from DOT 3 to a silicon base fluid. He stated that he and some of the > other Packard people are having problem with thier stop light switch. They > think it has to with the switch not being compatible with the silicon base > fluid. Has anyone heard about tis or had the same problem? > > > > Dana S > > '69 2K > > _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 17:43:52 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Scott McGillivray , Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:26:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Vancouver BC "Day Cruise" - Sunday August 30 It's questionable, but if I get the parts back from the machine shop in time I'll try to make it out. Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott McGillivray" Subject: [Roadsters] Vancouver BC "Day Cruise" - Sunday August 30 > We have a high number of roadsters in or near Vancouver BC and I can't > remember any group day trips, so here goes... > > *When* : Sunday, August 30, 10am departure time. > *Meet at* : A & W in Maple Ridge, corner of Lougheed Highway and > 228th > Street. > *Destination* : Harrison Hot Springs (50 miles one-way) > > - 5 roadsters already confirmed, expect more now that I've posted here. > - Leaving the A & W at 10am sharp so show up early if you want > breakfast. > - Weather permitting, of course. > - Maybe pit-stop at the Sasquatch Inn? > > -Scott > 1969 SPL311 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 17:47:49 2009 From: Gary Callahan To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Bad Bearing Noise from Left-Rear Wheel :~( I've got a bad bearing noise coming from my left-rear wheel area. Anyone have any idea how difficult this might be to fix and if the bearing is available through normal auto parts stores? It's a stock 1968 1600 with drum breaks on the rear. Gary Callahan :~( Beaverton, Oregon 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster SPL311-18665 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 18:02:10 2009 From: Pat Horne To: Gary Callahan Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:54:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bad Bearing Noise from Left-Rear Wheel :~( Gary, The rear bearings are only available from the dealer and our suppliers. They are special, with no commercial replacement. It shouldn't be too difficult to replace it, but it might be a bit time consuming, unless you want to buy a few parts that you may not need. The bearings are held onto the axle either by a nut, or a pressed on retainer. The retainer is a one-use part and must be replaced. Don't try to reuse it unless you don't mind if your axle slides out, wheel and all when you are driving. You will probably need a slide hammer to pull the axle and bearing out, but parts houses that lend tools should have one available. The bearing and retainer will need to be pressed off & on, so if you don't have a press, take to a shop. There should be plenty of write-ups on 311s.org. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Gary Callahan, On 8/24/2009 6:38 PM: > I've got a bad bearing noise coming from my left-rear wheel area. Anyone have > any idea how difficult this might be to fix and if the bearing is available > through normal auto parts stores? It's a stock 1968 1600 with drum breaks on > the rear. > > > > Gary Callahan :~( > Beaverton, Oregon > > 1968 Datsun 1600 "Fairlady" Roadster > SPL311-18665 > > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 18:11:40 2009 From: "barterdude" To: "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:13:31 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] starter question My 69 2L starter gave out and I took it to the same place that did my 63 starter a few years back. He didn't have anything in stock and would take a long time to rebuild existing, so he ordered and says he got it in, BUT, says the length is about 1 inch longer. Is this going to cause problems as it was a bugger digging it out between the frame and body on the driver's side? Thoughts - is this Hitachi vs. Mitsubishi stuff? Gary Lasater founding member www.wycroc.org '63 SPL310-300161C '63 SPL310-300289B '64 SPL310-001289 '68 SRL311-11977 '69 SRL311-12536 '70 SPL311-28169 This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If the read of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone (303) 840-7172, or electronically by return message, and delete or destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 18:16:18 2009 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Gary Callahan Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:13:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bad Bearing Noise from Left-Rear Wheel > I've got a bad bearing noise coming from my left-rear wheel area. > Anyone have any idea how difficult this might be to fix and if the > bearing is available through normal auto parts stores? The bearing is held on via a sleeve that is pressed onto the shaft. Somewhere around 15 ton press is required, as I recall (it might be higher, I'm away from my manuals). Some people advocate CAREFULLY deeply notching the sleeve with a grinding wheel and then using a cold-chisel to split it off (do not do not DO NOT nick the axle!) as you get a limited number of presses before the sleeve isn't 'tight enough' on the shaft and the axle becomes a throwaway. Less likely to damage things by pressing it off... The bearing is a unique size that you likely won't find anywhere but on a vendor's shelf. Last I knew about a C note per side for the parts, plus shop time of course. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 18:32:28 2009 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Dana Scribner , Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Silicon brake fluid I switched to silicone fluid in my '66 years ago, and have had no problems with the fluid-actuated stop light switch. Gary ________________________________ From: Dana Scribner To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; drone Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:38:49 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Silicon brake fluid I just talked to a man who has changed the brake system on his 1947 Packard over from DOT 3 to a silicon base fluid. He stated that he and some of the other Packard people are having problem with thier stop light switch. They think it has to with the switch not being compatible with the silicon base fluid. Has anyone heard about tis or had the same problem? Dana S '69 2K _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackTo School_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 18:56:58 2009 From: Eddie To: barterdude@comcast.net Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:56:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter question I actually have several of those short starters, and one long starter, all of which were completely rebuilt by a reputable shop. If you're interested, email me off list. Eddie barterdude wrote: > My 69 2L starter gave out and I took it to the same place that did my 63 > starter a few years back. He didn't have anything in stock and would take a > long time to rebuild existing, so he ordered and says he got it in, BUT, > says the length is about 1 inch longer. Is this going to cause problems as > it was a bugger digging it out between the frame and body on the driver's > side? > > > > Thoughts - is this Hitachi vs. Mitsubishi stuff? > > > > Gary Lasater > > founding member www.wycroc.org > > '63 SPL310-300161C > > '63 SPL310-300289B > > '64 SPL310-001289 > > '68 SRL311-11977 > > '69 SRL311-12536 > > '70 SPL311-28169 > > This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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Not sure if the starters were interchangeable between the 1600 and the 2000 Eddie barterdude wrote: > My 69 2L starter gave out and I took it to the same place that did my 63 > starter a few years back. He didn't have anything in stock and would take a > long time to rebuild existing, so he ordered and says he got it in, BUT, > says the length is about 1 inch longer. Is this going to cause problems as > it was a bugger digging it out between the frame and body on the driver's > side? > > > > Thoughts - is this Hitachi vs. Mitsubishi stuff? > > > > Gary Lasater > > founding member www.wycroc.org > > '63 SPL310-300161C > > '63 SPL310-300289B > > '64 SPL310-001289 > > '68 SRL311-11977 > > '69 SRL311-12536 > > '70 SPL311-28169 > > This message is only intended for the use of the individual or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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Thank you. > > 17009 Carr Ave. == Parker CO 80134 > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 19:03:22 2009 From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:58:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun LIMO??? I thought this was pretty cool and wanted to share. A bit pricy, but interesting! http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/1332270107.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 20:49:48 2009 From: "E Scanlon" To: , "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:49:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] starter question Gary; Have you removed the splash plate that's on the underside of the body frame/firewall that limits access to the starter? If you have NOT, then it might be a good idea to do so. By doing that you gain a ton of access space right above the exhaust tubing and below the SU's. If you need, I can post pictures of what I did. HTH E ----- Original Message ----- From: "barterdude" < Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: [Roadsters] starter question > My 69 2L starter gave out and I took it to the same place that did my 63 > starter a few years back. He didn't have anything in stock and would take > a > long time to rebuild existing, so he ordered and says he got it in, BUT, > says the length is about 1 inch longer. Is this going to cause problems > as > it was a bugger digging it out between the frame and body on the driver's > side? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 22:02:50 2009 From: steven boortz To: Eddie , Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun LIMO??? LIMO? LMAO. ________________________________ From: Eddie To: Datsun Roadster List Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 5:58:59 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun LIMO??? I thought this was pretty cool and wanted to share. A bit pricy, but interesting! http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/1332270107.html You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 24 22:37:47 2009 From: Eddie To: steven boortz Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:37:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun LIMO??? Hey that's riding a Datsun in style! Lol. Sent from my iPhone plz excuse typing errors. :-) On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:01 PM, steven boortz wrote: > LIMO? LMAO. > > From: Eddie > To: Datsun Roadster List > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 5:58:59 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun LIMO??? > > I thought this was pretty cool and wanted to share. A bit pricy, > but interesting! > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/1332270107.html > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery@yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 01:52:45 2009 From: "Howard @ Everything Christmas" To: "Gordon Glasgow" , "'Fred Katz'" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:52:21 +1000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose Hi all, I have found a little heat - to the surrounding metal, works well sometimes too. Maybe with an electric heat gun (no flame) but keep away from fuel etc. - naturally Best Regards, Howard PS Hi Gordon - I notice the pic of my race car is still on your site, must get you something a bit more interesting and updated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Fred Katz'" ; "'Datsun roadster'" Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:22 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > If you have reverse-twist drill bits, sometimes just trying to drill the > bolt head with one of these will generate enough torque/heat to break the > bolt loose. > > Gordon Glasgow > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Katz > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:48 PM > To: Datsun roadster > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > > As Vince said, use patience. > > But, if you're in a hurry, drill out the bolt heads. I was in a hurry > once at a pick-and-pull junkyard, going after fenders and other front- > end parts. I brought a battery-powered portable drill, extra batteries > and drill bits. Worked great, was done real fast. Of course you'll > need new nuts and bolts. > > Fred - So.SF > On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:24 PM, barterdude wrote: > >> I am tackling restoration of a 1964 Fairlady I got out of >> Pennsylvania and >> virtually every nut, bolt, screw, connecting device is RUSTED big >> time. >> Wonder what you use to cut through the rust so we can get this >> detached >> without having to bust everything in half? >> >> >> >> Suggestion appreciated. >> >> >> >> Gary Lasater >> >> founding member www.wycroc.org > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 01:54:03 2009 From: "Howard @ Everything Christmas" To: Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:53:56 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: What is recommended for breaking rust loose > Hi all, > > I have found a little heat - to the surrounding metal, works well > sometimes too. > > Maybe with an electric heat gun (no flame) or a mini propane torch for > tight spots > but keep away from fuel etc. - naturally > > Best Regards, > > Howard > > PS Hi Gordon - I notice the pic of my race car is still on your site, > must get you something a bit more interesting and updated. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Glasgow" > To: "'Fred Katz'" ; "'Datsun roadster'" > > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:22 AM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose > > >> If you have reverse-twist drill bits, sometimes just trying to drill the >> bolt head with one of these will generate enough torque/heat to break the >> bolt loose. >> >> Gordon Glasgow >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Katz >> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:48 PM >> To: Datsun roadster >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose >> >> As Vince said, use patience. >> >> But, if you're in a hurry, drill out the bolt heads. I was in a hurry >> once at a pick-and-pull junkyard, going after fenders and other front- >> end parts. I brought a battery-powered portable drill, extra batteries >> and drill bits. Worked great, was done real fast. Of course you'll >> need new nuts and bolts. >> >> Fred - So.SF >> On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:24 PM, barterdude wrote: >> >>> I am tackling restoration of a 1964 Fairlady I got out of >>> Pennsylvania and >>> virtually every nut, bolt, screw, connecting device is RUSTED big >>> time. >>> Wonder what you use to cut through the rust so we can get this >>> detached >>> without having to bust everything in half? >>> >>> >>> >>> Suggestion appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Gary Lasater >>> >>> founding member www.wycroc.org >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 05:52:01 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 4:50:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brake lights Thanks to everyone who replied with detailed info and steps/places to check. I feel comfortable now tracking this issue down, especially after last Sunday: We took both Roadsters out for a family Roadster Run and I had intermittent horn and brake lights so it seems like it might be a loose connection or maybe a short somewhere. Hopefully easily found. Thanks again all. Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 05:53:13 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 7:52:18 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Slightly OT--wiper blades Has any one found a wiper blade that lasts longer than three of four months--summer or winter? I seem to need new wiper blades for both my S10 and my wife's Avalon every 12 to 16 weeks and it is getting frustrating. TIA Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 08:27:34 2009 From: Scott Ulrich To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun LIMO??? This is why Fontana is sometimes called "Fontucky". On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Eddie wrote: > I thought this was pretty cool and wanted to share. A bit pricy, but > interesting! > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/1332270107.html > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 10:03:41 2009 From: "May, Frank" To: , "Datsun roadster" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:03:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Second Posting My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was last turned over. I've talked with a machinist about tearing it down and restoring. I put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried to turn, but it's stuck. Any thoughts on how to get it unstuck without first pulling the head? I've shot lots of oil/WD40/carb cleaner into the spark plug sockets, but without results so far. Frank May SRL311-12936 ________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 10:17:14 2009 From: Pat Horne To: "May, Frank" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:13:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Second Posting Diesel oil, or Kroil. Then let it sit for a few weeks. Using a block of wood you might try introducing some vibrations into the block by the cylinders. I doubt heat would be possible, since there is a water jacket in that area. When you try to turn the dampener bolt, try going both directions. Even a little movement will help. Good luck. Peace, Pat Thusly spake May, Frank, On 8/25/2009 11:03 AM: > My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was last turned > over. I've talked with a machinist about tearing it down and restoring. I > put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried to turn, but it's stuck. > Any thoughts on how to get it unstuck without first pulling the head? I've > shot lots of oil/WD40/carb cleaner into the spark plug sockets, but without > results so far. > > Frank May > SRL311-12936 > > ________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 11:46:55 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Second Posting The pistons are likely frozen in the cylinders. Even if you got it free, the rings will likely be shot (frozen) and never seal properly. There may be more damage also. Rust on cylinder walls is bad news. With a lot of luck, you may be able to just replace the rings and "break the ridge" with a light hone and a hand held power drill. But allow it to sit with kroil, kerosene, liquid wrench or whatever in it, and wait. If you pull the head, tap on the piston tops, but don't crack them. I'd use a hard rubber or wooden block to keep the contact spread out, the pistons may crack from a hammer blow. Mine came loose, but the bores were lousy. Many other problems can be present, mine had gotten some water (a few drops) into a bearing and I had to not only bore out the engine .020, but regrind the crank. When I was done, I had spent over $2,500 on the engine alone, and did almost all the work myself. I don't have the equipment of an engine shop, but I can swing a wrench. I even put in all new valves, valve guides and seals, main bearings and jackshaft bearings and pistons. The con rods were OK. It is practically a new engine. God, but I was relieved when it ran right, finally, I was worried I may have done some little thing wrong.... Whatever you do, don't use a half-assed carb rebuild shop, I made that mistake and it cost me 3 months. Use Keith, on this list, or Z Therapy (Keith is cheaper, I learned too late....) But she runs like new now. JimG NJ 2k '69 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, May, Frank wrote: From: May, Frank Subject: [Roadsters] Second Posting To: barterdude@comcast.net, "Datsun roadster" Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 12:03 PM My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was last turned over. I've talked with a machinist about tearing it down and restoring. I put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried to turn, but it's stuck. Any thoughts on how to get it unstuck without first pulling the head? I've shot lots of oil/WD40/carb cleaner into the spark plug sockets, but without results so far. Frank May SRL311-12936 ________________________________ You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 11:48:07 2009 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: Frank May Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:47:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Unsticking an engine (was: Second Posting) > My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was > last turned over... I put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried > to turn, but it's stuck. Diet Pepsi. No kidding - google it. But you'll need to figure out how to clean it out, if you're not doing an immediate teardown. I'd also suggest you pull the dizzy and spin the oil pump (CCW) to get some lubrication into the bearings. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 11:50:59 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] FS: 1969 1600 near Seattle, WA Not mine, but 15 minutes away if you require more info: Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 12:07:22 2009 From: ljordan704@aim.com To: gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:06:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Second Posting What about pulling the valve cover and pouring a qt of oil over everything? I think I heard that somewhere. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Sent: Tue, Aug 25, 2009 10:44 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Second Posting The pistons are likely frozen in the cylinders. Even if you got it free, the rings will likely be shot (frozen) and never seal properly. There may be more damage also. Rust on cylinder walls is bad news. With a lot of luck, you may be able to just replace the rings and "break the ridge" with a light hone and a hand held power drill. But allow it to sit with kroil, kerosene, liquid wrench or whatever in it, and wait. If you pull the head, tap on the piston tops, but don't crack them. I'd use a hard rubber or wooden block to keep the contact spread out, the pistons may crack from a hammer blow. Mine came loose, but the bores were lousy. Many other problems can be present, mine had gotten some water (a few drops) into a bearing and I had to not only bore out the engine .020, but regrind the crank. When I was done, I had spent over $2,500 on the engine alone, and did almost all the work myself. I don't have the equipment of an engine shop, but I can swing a wrench. I even put in all new valves, valve guides and seals, main bearings and jackshaft bearings and pistons. The con rods were OK. It is practically a new engine. God, but I was relieved when it ran right, finally, I was worried I may have done some little thing wrong.... Whatever you do, don't use a half-assed carb rebuild shop, I made that mistake and it cost me 3 months. Use Keith, on this list, or Z Therapy (Keith is cheaper, I learned too late....) But she runs like new now. JimG NJ 2k '69 --- On Tue, 8/25/09, May, Frank wrote: From: May, Frank Subject: [Roadsters] Second Posting To: barterdude@comcast.net, "Datsun roadster" Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 12:03 PM My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was last turned over. I've talked with a machinist about tearing it down and restoring. I put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried to turn, but it's stuck. Any thoughts on how to get it unstuck without first pulling the head? I've shot lots of oil/WD40/carb cleaner into the spark plug sockets, but without results so far. Frank May SRL311-12936 ________________________________ You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as ljordan704@aim.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 12:26:11 2009 From: "May, Frank" To: "John F Sandhoff" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:25:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Unsticking an engine (was: Second Posting) I plan to tear it down and have a machinist do a rebuild. He has agreed to do the labor; I supply the parts he needs. However, he wants the pistons free before I turn the motor over to him. Top of the motor under the valve/cam cover looks good. The only rust is see is a spot on the cover about the size of a dime, and it's only surface. I suspect most cars which are run every day have more. I guess that's a good sign. Pepsi contains phosphoric acid which attacks iron oxide without attacking iron metal. It's the active ingredient in many rust inhibitor products. Thanks for the advice for a cheap alternative..... Frank Frank.L.May@umsl.edu SRL311-12936 ________________________________ From: John F Sandhoff [mailto:sandhoff@csus.edu] Sent: Tue 8/25/2009 12:47 PM To: May, Frank Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: Unsticking an engine (was: Second Posting) > My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was > last turned over... I put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried > to turn, but it's stuck. Diet Pepsi. No kidding - google it. But you'll need to figure out how to clean it out, if you're not doing an immediate teardown. I'd also suggest you pull the dizzy and spin the oil pump (CCW) to get some lubrication into the bearings. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 13:38:04 2009 From: "E Scanlon" To: "May, Frank" , "Datsun roadster" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:37:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Second Posting When my mechanic replaced an engine into one of my Z's, the engine was "sticky" and would NOT turn over at all. He injected some ATF into each of the cylinders and let it sit for a couple of days. Then with a 1/2" ratchet and socket on the main crank nut, he tried to turn the engine over in one direction, then the other. He'd do this several times, then would push it in one direction and let it sit. This went on for a couple of days and slowly but surely he got the engine to begin turning over. The end result is that he was able to finally get the engine to turn over completely with the ratchet. He mounted the engine and electricals and started her right up. I'm not sure if there was any scoring or damage to the engine, but it doesn't burn oil, nor other problems. It might not be the "perfect" fix, but a complete engine swap for $500 ending up with a running car, can't be beat. FWIW E ----- Original Message ----- From: "May, Frank" < Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Second Posting > My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was last > turned > over. I've talked with a machinist about tearing it down and restoring. > I > put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried to turn, but it's > stuck. > Any thoughts on how to get it unstuck without first pulling the head? > I've > shot lots of oil/WD40/carb cleaner into the spark plug sockets, but > without > results so far. > > Frank May > SRL311-12936 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 13:52:35 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: E Scanlon Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:52:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Second Posting > When my mechanic replaced an engine into one of my Z's, the engine was > "sticky" and would NOT turn over at all. > > He injected some ATF into each of the cylinders and let it sit for a couple > of days. Then with a 1/2" ratchet and socket on the main crank nut, he tried > to turn the engine over in one direction, then the other. B He'd do this > several times, then would push it in one direction and let it sit. B This > went on for a couple of days and slowly but surely he got the engine to > begin turning over. > > The end result is that he was able to finally get the engine to turn over > completely with the ratchet. B He mounted the engine and electricals and > started her right up. > > I'm not sure if there was any scoring or damage to the engine, but it > doesn't burn oil, nor other problems. > > It might not be the "perfect" fix, but a complete engine swap for $500 > ending up with a running car, can't be beat. > I may be a bit paranoid, but if an engine's frozen, there's a reason and I think you're always wise to find the reason and fix it. This is especially true for the R and U series motors that are becoming more scarce by the day and the L-4 and L-6 motors aren't far behind. I mean, is it more costly to disassemble and clean the engine up now, or take a chance on scoring bearings and cylinder walls, which may render the engine useless later? Just Sayin', Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 15:32:16 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:30:59 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] rag top back bar Is there a difference in the rag top back bars from low to high windscreen cars? How about from tonneau (sp?) cover to rag top? I have several loose/extras and they are not all arced the same. Are the back bars rag top brand specific? My 2000 rag top, soft top boot and tonneau all have little two inch pieces of metal instead of a full bar. But these three items also all have snaps instead of posties and twisties so they must be aftermarket. I need to lend a bar to Dan so he can get his ragtop installed on the frame. I want to make sure what I lend him is correct for his rag top. Thanks and sorry for all the questions. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 18:29:07 2009 From: "dave" To: "'Datsun roadster'" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:28:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Second Posting You can also put the car in gear and rock back and forth, top gear works best. If the clutch works, roll it to walking speed in 4th and then let the clutch up quickly, like a push start. Just be ready for a sudden stop. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: Pat Horne [mailto:pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:14 PM To: May, Frank Cc: Datsun roadster Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Second Posting Diesel oil, or Kroil. Then let it sit for a few weeks. Using a block of wood you might try introducing some vibrations into the block by the cylinders. I doubt heat would be possible, since there is a water jacket in that area. When you try to turn the dampener bolt, try going both directions. Even a little movement will help. Good luck. Peace, Pat Thusly spake May, Frank, On 8/25/2009 11:03 AM: > My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was last > turned over. I've talked with a machinist about tearing it down and > restoring. I put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried to > turn, but it's stuck. Any thoughts on how to get it unstuck without > first pulling the head? I've shot lots of oil/WD40/carb cleaner into > the spark plug sockets, but without results so far. > > Frank May > SRL311-12936 > > ________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjhorne@mail.utexas.edu > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 19:48:42 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "May, Frank" , "John F Sandhoff" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:48:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Unsticking an engine (was: Second Posting) Frank, I recommend you find another machinist. You needn't care about the condition of the pistons, since you're not going to re-use them anyway. You should be able to take the motor to your rebuilder and expect he'll solve the frozen engine problem. There's a long block on eBay which the seller calims has been rebuilt. If you can satisfy yourself that he is offering a solid product, it will be a lot less expensive than starting from scratch with your seized motor. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "May, Frank" To: "John F Sandhoff" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Unsticking an engine (was: Second Posting) >I plan to tear it down and have a machinist do a rebuild. He has agreed to >do > the labor; I supply the parts he needs. However, he wants the pistons > free > before I turn the motor over to him. > > Top of the motor under the valve/cam cover looks good. The only rust is > see > is a spot on the cover about the size of a dime, and it's only surface. I > suspect most cars which are run every day have more. I guess that's a > good > sign. > > Pepsi contains phosphoric acid which attacks iron oxide without attacking > iron > metal. It's the active ingredient in many rust inhibitor products. > Thanks > for the advice for a cheap alternative..... > > Frank > Frank.L.May@umsl.edu > SRL311-12936 > > ________________________________ > > From: John F Sandhoff [mailto:sandhoff@csus.edu] > Sent: Tue 8/25/2009 12:47 PM > To: May, Frank > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: Unsticking an engine (was: Second Posting) > > > > >> My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was >> last turned over... I put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried >> to turn, but it's stuck. > > Diet Pepsi. No kidding - google it. > > But you'll need to figure out how to clean it out, if you're not > doing an immediate teardown. > > I'd also suggest you pull the dizzy and spin the oil pump (CCW) > to get some lubrication into the bearings. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 20:54:15 2009 From: waynomor@aol.com To: howard@everythingchristmas.com.au, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:53:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: What is recommended for breaking rust loose "PB Blaster" -----Original Message----- From: Howard @ Everything Christmas To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:53 am Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: What is recommended for breaking rust loose > Hi all,? >? > I have found a little heat - to the surrounding metal, works well > sometimes too.? >? > Maybe with an electric heat gun (no flame) or a mini propane torch for > tight spots? > but keep away from fuel etc. - naturally? >? > Best Regards,? >? > Howard? >? > PS Hi Gordon - I notice the pic of my race car is still on your site, > must get you something a bit more interesting and updated.? >? >? >? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Glasgow" ? > To: "'Fred Katz'" ; "'Datsun roadster'" > ? > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:22 AM? > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose? >? >? >> If you have reverse-twist drill bits, sometimes just trying to drill the? >> bolt head with one of these will generate enough torque/heat to break the? >> bolt loose.? >>? >> Gordon Glasgow? >> -----Original Message-----? >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net? >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Katz? >> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:48 PM? >> To: Datsun roadster? >> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] What is recommended for breaking rust loose? >>? >> As Vince said, use patience.? >>? >> But, if you're in a hurry, drill out the bolt heads. I was in a hurry? >> once at a pick-and-pull junkyard, going after fenders and other front-? >> end parts. I brought a battery-powered portable drill, extra batteries? >> and drill bits. Worked great, was done real fast. Of course you'll? >> need new nuts and bolts.? >>? >> Fred - So.SF? >> On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:24 PM, barterdude wrote:? >>? >>> I am tackling restoration of a 1964 Fairlady I got out of? >>> Pennsylvania and? >>> virtually every nut, bolt, screw, connecting device is RUSTED big? >>> time.? >>> Wonder what you use to cut through the rust so we can get this? >>> detached? >>> without having to bust everything in half?? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>> Suggestion appreciated.? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>> Gary Lasater? >>>? >>> founding member www.wycroc.org? >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list? >>? >> http://www.team.net/archive? >>? >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as waynomor@aol.com? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 21:28:21 2009 From: oliver To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] wasn't that hard just put together the windshield for my early 67 roadster (as in assembling the glass, gasket, and frame). not that hard! took about two hours; i have never done a windshield before. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 21:36:23 2009 From: "Richard Rudden" To: Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:27:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] One owner 1969 SRL for sale My name is Richard Rudden and while I have seldom been active on the list I've been on the list for around 10 years. I've met some of you at Datsun shows in the SF Bay Area and Shasta. The point of this is I am also the original owner of a 1969 roadster, SRL311-12388. My wife purchased it from Mayfield Car Co. the Datsun dealer in Thousand Oaks Ca. in of March 1970. The car started life in the same beige gray as the cover car from the 1969 Datsun brochure. It currently has 124598 miles on it and is ready for its second restoration, the first was frame on in 1988 and the color was changed to Nissan 013 Regatta Red. At that time the 5 speed was rebuilt with new synchronizers and bearings. The engine short block and head was rebuilt by a shop in San Diego... All new chains, tensioners and guides were used. All was great until 2002 when it dropped a valve seat from the #1 exhaust valve, and I parked it with every intention of getting it back on the road again. I won't bother you with all the details of why I never got around to working on it again, but now as a result the loss of my job, my home and finally a stroke this year I have to face the fact that I will not be able to get her back on the road again. I want the car to go to someone who knows what they are and will get it back to burning gas and crushing bugs. That is why I am offering it on the list first. Pictures can be seen at: http://picasaweb.google.com/Calsequoia/1969Datsun2000?feat=directlink Please let me know if would like to see more and I'll see what I can do. Along with the car I am including the following major parts: - Complete interior upholstery and carpet kit (new from Classic Datsun Motorsports) - New dash cap - New windshield - New gear reduction starter. - New radiator, caps and hoses. - New complete timing set with all chains, tensioners and guides. - Complete Mikuni/Solex induction kit including "B" cam and polished aluminum air cleaner with element and heat shield. - New brake and clutch master cylinders and clutch slave cylinder. - Electronic distributor from Gary Boone. One of his last polished units. - A complete rebuilt U20 short block. In addition to the block in the car. - 2 complete U20 heads. - A second complete 5 speed transmission. - New clutch disk, pressure plate and throw out bearing. - New front parking, turn lamps. - New genuine Datsun locking gas cap - Many, many more small parts many new, some made from rare unobtainium that I have been gathering over the years. The car is located in Salinas, Ca. near Monterey. I am asking 10k for everything. Please contact me off list at srl311_1969@hotmail.com if you have any questions or need more information. Thank you much for your time, I look forward to hearing from you soon. Richard ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 25 21:40:38 2009 From: "Richard Rudden" To: Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:40:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] One owner 1969 SRL for sale My name is Richard Rudden and while I have seldom been active on the list I've been on the list for around 10 years. I've met some of you at Datsun shows in the SF Bay Area and Shasta. The point of this is I am also the original owner of a 1969 roadster, SRL311-12388. My wife purchased it from Mayfield Car Co. the Datsun dealer in Thousand Oaks Ca. in of March 1970. The car started life in the same beige gray as the cover car from the 1969 Datsun brochure. It currently has 124598 miles on it and is ready for its second restoration, the first was frame on in 1988 and the color was changed to Nissan 013 Regatta Red. At that time the 5 speed was rebuilt with new synchronizers and bearings. The engine short block and head was rebuilt by a shop in San Diego... All new chains, tensioners and guides were used. All was great until 2002 when it dropped a valve seat from the #1 exhaust valve, and I parked it with every intention of getting it back on the road again. I won't bother you with all the details of why I never got around to working on it again, but now as a result the loss of my job, my home and finally a stroke this year I have to face the fact that I will not be able to get her back on the road again. I want the car to go to someone who knows what they are and will get it back to burning gas and crushing bugs. That is why I am offering it on the list first. Pictures can be seen at: http://picasaweb.google.com/Calsequoia/1969Datsun2000?feat=directlink Please let me know if would like to see more and I'll see what I can do. Along with the car I am including the following major parts: - Complete interior upholstery and carpet kit (new from Classic Datsun Motorsports) - New dash cap - New windshield - New gear reduction starter. - New radiator, caps and hoses. - New complete timing set with all chains, tensioners and guides. - Complete Mikuni/Solex induction kit including "B" cam and polished aluminum air cleaner with element and heat shield. - New brake and clutch master cylinders and clutch slave cylinder. - Electronic distributor from Gary Boone. One of his last polished units. - A complete rebuilt U20 short block. In addition to the block in the car. - 2 complete U20 heads. - A second complete 5 speed transmission. - New clutch disk, pressure plate and throw out bearing. - New front parking, turn lamps. - New genuine Datsun locking gas cap - Many, many more small parts many new, some made from rare unobtainium that I have been gathering over the years. The car is located in Salinas, Ca. near Monterey. I am asking 10k for everything. Please contact me off list at srl311_1969@hotmail.com if you have any questions or need more information. Thank you much for your time, I look forward to hearing from you soon. Richard ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 26 16:18:36 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:18:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... I put what should have been a good fuel pump on the 2000 last weekend. After strong running for a couple dozen miles--in town and freeway--I was on an uphill and started to lose power. After pulling around a corner onto a flat area, the car started back up and I was able to drive home. Connie commented that I was on an uphill when I was stranded the first time a few weeks ago. When I remove the plugs and spin the motor to see gas flow into a jar, the flow seems fine. The car seems to run just fine at idle. But I am now kind of hesitant to take her out without knowing what is up. I did put screens on the banjo bolts as well as a new see through fuel filter. This fuel filter looks fine. any other thoughts on this issue? TIA Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 26 16:47:55 2009 From: ljordan704@aim.com To: tputland@charter.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:46:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... Check to see if it is leaking gas out the bottom weep hole. Also you might open up the top lid and see if the black rubber piece looks OK or has a hole in it (hold up to the light). You can get those parts from Nissan. Be sure to tighten the screws back down tight. BTDT Linda -----Original Message----- From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:18 pm Subject: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... I put what should have been a good fuel pump on the 2000 last weekend. After strong running for a couple dozen miles--in town and freeway--I was on an uphill and started to lose power. After pulling around a corner onto a flat area, the car started back up and I was able to drive home. Connie commented that I was on an uphill when I was stranded the first time a few weeks ago. When I remove the plugs and spin the motor to see gas flow into a jar, the flow seems fine. The car seems to run just fine at idle. But I am now kind of hesitant to take her out without knowing what is up. I did put screens on the banjo bolts as well as a new see through fuel filter. This fuel filter looks fine. any other thoughts on this issue? TIA Tim You are subscribed as ljordan704@aim.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 26 17:50:57 2009 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: Tim Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:45:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... Happened to me a couple of times. I went crazy trying to figure it out. there was a very small hole in my (Rubber) fuel line. it was sucking air under a load. I cut the line and it was fine until it wore throgh again. I finally fixed the problem and replaced the hose. No problems, runs great. Chris On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Tim wrote: > I put what should have been a good fuel pump on the 2000 last weekend. > After strong running for a couple dozen miles--in town and freeway--I was on > an uphill and started to lose power. After pulling around a corner onto a > flat area, the car started back up and I was able to drive home. > > Connie commented that I was on an uphill when I was stranded the first time > a few weeks ago. > > When I remove the plugs and spin the motor to see gas flow into a jar, the > flow seems fine. The car seems to run just fine at idle. But I am now kind > of hesitant to take her out without knowing what is up. > > I did put screens on the banjo bolts as well as a new see through fuel > filter. This fuel filter looks fine. > > any other thoughts on this issue? > > TIA > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 '73 Mustang Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 26 18:03:36 2009 From: ljordan704@aim.com To: fairlady66@gmail.com, tputland@charter.net Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:03:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... Also all the clamps have to be tight for the same reason. Funny I used to have a similar problem with the old glass fuel bowls on my previous early car,...would not seal if gasket had dried out. Carb fuel bowls need a good seal too... Linda -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Christy Breyer To: Tim Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:45 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... Happened to me a couple of times. I went crazy trying to figure it out. there was a very small hole in my (Rubber) fuel line. it was sucking air under a load. I cut the line and it was fine until it wore throgh again. I finally fixed the problem and replaced the hose. No problems, runs great. Chris On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Tim wrote: > I put what should have been a good fuel pump on the 2000 last weekend. > After strong running for a couple dozen miles--in town and freeway--I was on > an uphill and started to lose power. After pulling around a corner onto a > flat area, the car started back up and I was able to drive home. > > Connie commented that I was on an uphill when I was stranded the first time > a few weeks ago. > > When I remove the plugs and spin the motor to see gas flow into a jar, the > flow seems fine. The car seems to run just fine at idle. But I am now kind > of hesitant to take her out without knowing what is up. > > I did put screens on the banjo bolts as well as a new see through fuel > filter. This fuel filter looks fine. > > any other thoughts on this issue? > > TIA > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 '73 Mustang Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 26 20:22:23 2009 From: Jim Gammon To: Datsun roadster Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gas filler neck Sorry for the late response, but consider tin plating. Tin is used much more outside the USA for some reason, but is really underused here. It protects against rust, is a thicker coating than most plating, and works better, longer than zinc, in my experience. It also makes the part look almost like cast stainless, especially castings and forgings. Jim NJ 69 2K --- On Sat, 8/22/09, oliver wrote: From: oliver Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gas filler neck To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 10:20 PM ceramic coating??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" To: "Tim" Cc: "oliver" ; "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] gas filler neck > You might consider taking it to a plating shop and see what they would charge you to plate it with something non-rusting, such as galvanizing, cad plating, or the like. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Tim, On 8/22/2009 1:54 PM: >> I have an organic rust remover that works great. My concern is the rust re-appearing. Whould I not worry about that, or should I treat with some thing to inhibit and then have to worry about that stuff eventually getting lose and into the tank... >> -- You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 26 21:51:49 2009 From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: Tim , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:50:51 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... Tim, I think you are on the right track, it does sound like fuel starvation. I had a similar problem after installing Solex carbs on my motor. Turned out the fuel return line was taking too much gas back, the rear carb was starving. It would run good for about 30 seconds, then started to lose power. I put a small diameter pan head screw in the opening of the steel return line and reattached the rubber hose, problem solved. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Tim >Sent: Aug 26, 2009 4:18 PM >To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >Subject: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... > >I put what should have been a good fuel pump on the 2000 last weekend. After strong running for a couple dozen miles--in town and freeway--I was on an uphill and started to lose power. After pulling around a corner onto a flat area, the car started back up and I was able to drive home. > >Connie commented that I was on an uphill when I was stranded the first time a few weeks ago. > >When I remove the plugs and spin the motor to see gas flow into a jar, the flow seems fine. The car seems to run just fine at idle. But I am now kind of hesitant to take her out without knowing what is up. > >I did put screens on the banjo bolts as well as a new see through fuel filter. This fuel filter looks fine. > >any other thoughts on this issue? > >TIA > >Tim >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 27 06:50:47 2009 From: "May, Frank" To: "Tim" , "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:50:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... The symptoms sound like what I experienced years ago while driving an ancient Volvo during sub-zero weather. The car was running fine, and suddenly I could go no faster than about 30 MPH - definitely got my attention when the temperature outside was minus 10F. The cause was "gas line freeze" which was alleviated by pulling into a service bay and dumping a de-icer into the fuel. Presumably you weren't driving under those conditions, but the symptoms suggest a restriction in the fuel line. Look for something simple first (like a rubber hose which has swollen internally or kinked)....you can always look later for something complicated. Happy hunting! Frank SRL311-12936 ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net on behalf of Tim Sent: Wed 8/26/2009 5:18 PM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... I put what should have been a good fuel pump on the 2000 last weekend. After strong running for a couple dozen miles--in town and freeway--I was on an uphill and started to lose power. After pulling around a corner onto a flat area, the car started back up and I was able to drive home. Connie commented that I was on an uphill when I was stranded the first time a few weeks ago. When I remove the plugs and spin the motor to see gas flow into a jar, the flow seems fine. The car seems to run just fine at idle. But I am now kind of hesitant to take her out without knowing what is up. I did put screens on the banjo bolts as well as a new see through fuel filter. This fuel filter looks fine. any other thoughts on this issue? TIA Tim You are subscribed as frank.l.may@umsl.edu Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 27 12:35:18 2009 From: "Larry Braddock" To: Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:30:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] re stranded 2000 I'd check to be sure your tank is vented properly. I've had that happen on other motors. Ran good for a while, then starved for gas and die. Let it set a while, starts and runs good, then dies, etc. I don't know where the vent is, but there has to be one somewhere. Larry Braddock ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 27 12:50:23 2009 From: "oliver" To: Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:45:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] re stranded 2000 i had a tr6 that did exactly that. ran for a while, then just died. open the vent cap (first thing you do - see if there is gas!), wait a minute, and it ran. when i finally caught on i realized there was a sucking noise, like opening a vacuum, when i popped the gas cap. the vent line, which ran under the car to a carbon cannister in the engine compartment (who thought that was a good idea???) ran by the exhaust (who thought that was a good idea???). got too close, melted shut. i replaced it with a steel line (i thought that was a good idea!!) i know - who thought a tr6 was a good idea????? (actually, i still have it and love it dearly) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Braddock" To: Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: [Roadsters] re stranded 2000 > I'd check to be sure your tank is vented properly. > I've had that happen on other motors. Ran good for a while, then starved > for > gas and die. Let it set a while, starts and runs good, then dies, etc. > I don't know where the vent is, but there has to be one somewhere. > > Larry Braddock ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 27 12:57:17 2009 From: RWM To: oliver , 'Datsun Roadster List' Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:56:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] re stranded 2000 I didn't know Lucas made fuel lines, too. ;-) oliver wrote: > i had a tr6 that did exactly that. ran for a while, then just died. > open the vent cap (first thing you do - see if there is gas!), wait a > minute, and it ran. when i finally caught on i realized there was a > sucking noise, like opening a vacuum, when i popped the gas cap. > > the vent line, which ran under the car to a carbon cannister in the > engine compartment (who thought that was a good idea???) ran by the > exhaust (who thought that was a good idea???). got too close, melted > shut. i replaced it with a steel line (i thought that was a good idea!!) > > i know - who thought a tr6 was a good idea????? > > > (actually, i still have it and love it dearly) > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Braddock" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:30 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] re stranded 2000 > > >> I'd check to be sure your tank is vented properly. >> I've had that happen on other motors. Ran good for a while, then >> starved for >> gas and die. Let it set a while, starts and runs good, then dies, etc. >> I don't know where the vent is, but there has to be one somewhere. >> >> Larry Braddock ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 27 17:22:56 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:22:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Speedi-Sleeve #? Anyone have the # for the speedi sleeve used for the Roadster? I'm assuming it would be the same for all 1500, 1600, 2000, and H20 cranks........ Thanks Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 27 19:43:14 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Dewey Hahlbohm" , "Tim" Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:42:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... With apologies to my friends at Greenpeace and the Sierra Club (LOL!), how about just lose the return line? Remove the fuel return valve, change the inlet fitting to the rear carb and cap off the line back to the tank. When I put the '69 U20 in my '66 1600, I removed the entire smog system, including the fuel return valve. Never looked back. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dewey Hahlbohm" To: "Tim" ; "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... > Tim, I think you are on the right track, it does sound like fuel > starvation. I had a similar problem after installing Solex carbs on my > motor. Turned out the fuel return line was taking too much gas back, the > rear carb was starving. It would run good for about 30 seconds, then > started to lose power. I put a small diameter pan head screw in the > opening of the steel return line and reattached the rubber hose, problem > solved. Good luck, Dewey > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Tim >>Sent: Aug 26, 2009 4:18 PM >>To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" >>Subject: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... >> >>I put what should have been a good fuel pump on the 2000 last weekend. >>After strong running for a couple dozen miles--in town and freeway--I was >>on an uphill and started to lose power. After pulling around a corner onto >>a flat area, the car started back up and I was able to drive home. >> >>Connie commented that I was on an uphill when I was stranded the first >>time a few weeks ago. >> >>When I remove the plugs and spin the motor to see gas flow into a jar, the >>flow seems fine. The car seems to run just fine at idle. But I am now kind >>of hesitant to take her out without knowing what is up. >> >>I did put screens on the banjo bolts as well as a new see through fuel >>filter. This fuel filter looks fine. >> >>any other thoughts on this issue? >> >>TIA >> >>Tim >>________________________________________ >>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net >> >>Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >>http://www.team.net/archive >> >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 27 22:26:33 2009 From: Daryl Smith To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:26:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Speedi-Sleeve #? >> "speedi sleeve" ????? > > Thanks Mike! > > For those that don't know, the speedi/redi/kwik sleeves are a thin > stainless > steel sleeve which fits over the sealing surface of (in my case) the crank > pulley/harmonic dampener when that surface is scored from the seal. It's > pretty common and a quick easy fix without having to replace the > pulley/dampener. (NOT dependent on crank as I previously posted.....) > > Ross Mullen has informed me that the 2L is different than the R series, or > maybe just different depending on whether you use the R series pulley, or > U20 dampener....... > > http://www.alliedbearings.com/mfg_prod/ ... index.html > > Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 28 00:58:25 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:58:05 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] More Cool JDM Roadster Video Clips Here are 2 clips of in-car action with a GC10 Skyline with what I think is an S20 drivetrain. It is absolutely chilling hearing this guy go through the gears....definitely not L-series powered. There are several other Datsuns on the track, like a flared roadster(red). See how many you can spot! Will ulpoad part 3 tomorrow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspqMvh-cm0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeAGVUAve1o This is a clip of a gathering and fun run with a green roadster in it and a bunch of other cool Datsuns. Great sounds, drive-bys etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4irND7HATw Enjoy! Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackTo School_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 28 06:14:34 2009 From: datsundoc@aol.com To: alvingogi@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:14:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] More Cool JDM Roadster Video Clips Sounds like it could be an L-series to me. This is from inside my 240Z with the "milder" of my two engines. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8iI0B5G80I Mike -----Original Message----- From: alvin gogineni To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 2:58 am Subject: [Roadsters] More Cool JDM Roadster Video Clips Here are 2 clips of in-car action with a GC10 Skyline with what I think is an S20 drivetrain. It is absolutely chilling hearing this guy go through the gears....definitely not L-series powered. There are several other Datsuns on the track, like a flared roadster(red). See how many you can spot! Will ulpoad part 3 tomorrow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspqMvh-cm0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeAGVUAve1o This is a clip of a gathering and fun run with a green roadster in it and a bunch of other cool Datsuns. Great sounds, drive-bys etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4irND7HATw Enjoy! Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackTo School_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 You are subscribed as datsundoc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 28 06:51:54 2009 From: chalsted@comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen need head count for Hazlitt dinner saturday we only have around a dozen folks committed to the BBQ at Hazlitt saturday night... really needs to be 30 to 40 to make it work for the caterer, if you plan to go or know anyone else who plans to go whether on the list or not, please have them contact me so we can have a better head count and hopefully enough people to make it work Thanks- Craig and Elaine ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 28 08:27:01 2009 From: vze2fhba@verizon.net To: chalsted@comcast.net Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:26:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen need head count for Hazlitt dinner ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 28 08:30:01 2009 From: "MH" To: "Daryl Smith" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:31:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fw: Speedi-Sleeve #? They aren't cheap, but according to info from one source, (can't put my finger on it directly) they were designed to "reduce down time for fleet vehicles", like busses, etc. If I can find the info, I'll post it. You can also find these sleeves, on Amazon.com at pretty good prices. I paid $34 for the 99177 to fix a persistent leak at the differential pinion yoke. The PO had replaced the Nissan seal (which is nearly 1/2" wide) with the more standard and commonly available "lip" type seal, very narrow, like a knife edge. There was a groove worn in the yoke. A new Nissan seal reduced the seapage, but didn't completely eliminate it until I installed the sleeve. I've also used one of these sleeves on my tandem axle boat trailer. I had spun a bearing, worn the race down to a razor blade, and grooved the axle beyond useablity. The sleeve fixed it right up. Mike Hudson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:26 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Speedi-Sleeve #? > >> "speedi sleeve" ????? > > > > Thanks Mike! > > > > For those that don't know, the speedi/redi/kwik sleeves are a thin > > stainless > > steel sleeve which fits over the sealing surface of (in my case) the crank > > pulley/harmonic dampener when that surface is scored from the seal. It's > > pretty common and a quick easy fix without having to replace the > > pulley/dampener. (NOT dependent on crank as I previously posted.....) > > > > Ross Mullen has informed me that the 2L is different than the R series, or > > maybe just different depending on whether you use the R series pulley, or > > U20 dampener....... > > > > http://www.alliedbearings.com/mfg_prod/ ... index.html > > > > Daryl ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 28 09:56:41 2009 From: "John F Sandhoff" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:55:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Return fuel line (was: when I got stranded by the It was suggested: > how about just lose the return line? Remove the fuel return valve, > change the inlet fitting to the rear carb and cap off the line back to > the tank. Not trying to start any flames, and with all due respect, but the return line is not some smog gizmo but is actually something that you want in place. Nissan added it to reduce the possibility of vapor locking on hot days. It allows the fuel to 'keep moving', reducing the risk of the fuel vaporizing inside the fuel line before the carb and starving the engine. One point of note is that the return valve (the gadget mounted on the rear carb) limits how much fuel goes back to the tank, and on very rare occasions has been reported to stick open and allow too much fuel to bypass the carbs. On the 1970 ONLY model, there are additional separator tanks and vent plumbing and air flow solenoids and such that are part of the vapor recovery efforts. Overall its presence doesn't affect performance and may marginally make the cars cleaner, so IMHO there's nothing to gain by ripping it out... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA p.s. I didn't think a '66 model year vehicle had any smog equipment, save for the PCV system (which again IMHO is a good thing to have) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 28 12:41:54 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] when I got stranded by the 2000... Double-check those fuel lines. Another person on another forum described the same problem and went through all the same troubleshooting you've done and/or be directed to do. The solution? "Thanks for all the advice guys. It was the rubber line between the pump and the filter. It looked fine from both ends but when I cut it in half the opening was warped into a small flat hole. Sucks how a 25 cent piece of hose can cause 3 weeks of frustration." Cheers. Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 28 13:23:14 2009 From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: John F Sandhoff , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Return fuel line (was: when I got stranded by the John, Good explanation. I did not know that. However, the '69 U20 motor in my '66 1600 runs fine without the return line. Of course, I have taken great pains to make sure the fuel line from the pump to the carbs is routed in areas as cool as possible. One thing I find interesting. My '66 U20 seems to be cooler under the hood than my '67-1/2 U20 Solex. Man, the '67 get's hot! Hot enough that the hood prop rod can be painful. The engine itself runs cool enough -- never seen it over 200 even stopped in traffic in downtown LA. And the '67-1/2 is hard to start if it sits for a while after getting hot. Figure it is vapor lock, so I generally open the hood, as long as I can keep an eye on it. Gary ________________________________ From: John F Sandhoff To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:55:54 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Return fuel line (was: when I got stranded by the 2000...) It was suggested: > how about just lose the return line? Remove the fuel return valve, > change the inlet fitting to the rear carb and cap off the line back to > the tank. Not trying to start any flames, and with all due respect, but the return line is not some smog gizmo but is actually something that you want in place. Nissan added it to reduce the possibility of vapor locking on hot days. It allows the fuel to 'keep moving', reducing the risk of the fuel vaporizing inside the fuel line before the carb and starving the engine. One point of note is that the return valve (the gadget mounted on the rear carb) limits how much fuel goes back to the tank, and on very rare occasions has been reported to stick open and allow too much fuel to bypass the carbs. On the 1970 ONLY model, there are additional separator tanks and vent plumbing and air flow solenoids and such that are part of the vapor recovery efforts. Overall its presence doesn't affect performance and may marginally make the cars cleaner, so IMHO there's nothing to gain by ripping it out... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA p.s. I didn't think a '66 model year vehicle had any smog equipment, save for the PCV system (which again IMHO is a good thing to have) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 28 15:26:56 2009 From: "Larry Braddock" To: Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:26:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Selling my 2000 Selling my 2000. runs very strong, could use some work on body, int. craigslist los angeles---east hollywood (90029) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 29 10:13:34 2009 From: Toby B To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:12:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel return line On my 68, the limiting valve had been completely removed, and in the event of a steep hill, the return line would bypass ALL the fuel. A little 1/16" restrictor fixed it. Yes, you do want to leave the return line, if it's there. Unless you live somewhere cool and close to sea level... Toby "One point of note is that the return valve (the gadget mounted on the rear carb) limits how much fuel goes back to the tank, and on very rare occasions has been reported to stick open and allow too much fuel to bypass the carbs. " ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 29 10:22:10 2009 From: Toby B To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:18:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] fuel starvation Yeah, that sounds like what happened to me when the PO removed the restrictor valve, too. I'd look at that while you're looking for air leaks... One other thing- do you have a fuel filter ahead of the pump? I've had (funny, a Volvo, too) a car that had crud in the tank. It'd run for a while, then a bit of crud would get into the pump and wedge the valves in it open, and I'd starve for fuel. Often, a bit of cranking would get it going again, only to have it happen a few miles later. I put a filter in front of the pump, and never had a problem again. I don't think I ever even changed that filter... hth, Toby "I put what should have been a good fuel pump on the 2000 last weekend. After strong running for a couple dozen miles--in town and freeway--I was on an uphill and started to lose power. After pulling around a corner onto a flat area, the car started back up and I was able to drive home. Connie commented that I was on an uphill when I was stranded the first time a few weeks ago." ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 29 19:57:20 2009 From: "robert k. smith" To: , , roadster list Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:56:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] re stranded 2000 hi oliver, i love tr6s. ive always admired the styling. right after i got my 69 2000,(in 1970), i saw the tr6 and wished i could have that body, with the u20 engine and 5 speed in it. keep the tr6. its a sweet ride. bob smith ohio. > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:56:43 -0400 > From: RWM@RWMann.com > To: sumton@sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] re stranded 2000 > > I didn't know Lucas made fuel lines, too. ;-) > > > > oliver wrote: > > i had a tr6 that did exactly that. ran for a while, then just died. > > open the vent cap (first thing you do - see if there is gas!), wait a > > minute, and it ran. when i finally caught on i realized there was a > > sucking noise, like opening a vacuum, when i popped the gas cap. > > > > the vent line, which ran under the car to a carbon cannister in the > > engine compartment (who thought that was a good idea???) ran by the > > exhaust (who thought that was a good idea???). got too close, melted > > shut. i replaced it with a steel line (i thought that was a good idea!!) > > > > i know - who thought a tr6 was a good idea????? > > > > > > (actually, i still have it and love it dearly) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Braddock" > > > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:30 PM > > Subject: [Roadsters] re stranded 2000 > > > > > >> I'd check to be sure your tank is vented properly. > >> I've had that happen on other motors. Ran good for a while, then > >> starved for > >> gas and die. Let it set a while, starts and runs good, then dies, etc. > >> I don't know where the vent is, but there has to be one somewhere. > >> > >> Larry Braddock > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM _HYGN_faster:082009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 29 21:06:29 2009 From: "robert k. smith" To: , , roadster list Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:03:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Second Posting hi frank, i just rebuilt a frozen engine, and the key to getting it free is to remove the crank shaft, so you can work on each piston by itself.(soak w/ penetrating oil for days, then use a cut down 2X4 piece of wood, and at least a 2 lb. hammer) if you dont remove the crank shaft, you are trying to move all 4 stuck pistons at the same time. btw, i was able to re use the stock pistons, and just hone the cyls.(a lot). a .020 over bore and new pistons are nice if your budget allows. good luck, bob smith, ohio > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:03:33 -0500 > From: Frank.L.May@umsl.edu > To: barterdude@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Second Posting > > My '69 2000 has been sitting since about 1974 when the motor was last turned > over. I've talked with a machinist about tearing it down and restoring. I > put a wrench on the vibration damper nut and tried to turn, but it's stuck. > Any thoughts on how to get it unstuck without first pulling the head? I've > shot lots of oil/WD40/carb cleaner into the spark plug sockets, but without > results so far. > > Frank May > SRL311-12936 > > ________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what youre up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 30 07:24:41 2009 From: Dana Scribner To: , drone Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:24:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) I got this email from fellow Roadster buddy Derek. Maybe someone is interested. I am holding the Block Island Motoring Event again this year on Saturday September 26 rain date the 27th from 11:30 AM to 2:30 PM at the Oar in New Harbor on BI. For cars ferry reservations can be made at 401-783-4613 x 112 ask for Jeanette and tell her you are coming for the event. Drivers will get a complementary ferry passenger ticket, and a T-shirt and BBQ lunch at the event. For passengers no reservations are necessary. This event benefit's the Block island Early Learning Center, our pre-school and day care facility. Most of the hotels have fall room specials available now and some combine dinner specials as well. I can be contacted at 401-741-4987 or my e-mail address Dvllandscape@aol.com. I hope to see you here someday soon. Derek A. van Lent, '68 2000 _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackTo School_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 30 17:43:08 2009 From: "Ed Mitchell" To: Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:39:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] the price is right Hi All.I was makin' windows Sales sticker replica.('cause I'm all "AR") But found DatsunBucky 's version on 311s.org... sadly it took someone to point it out to me. but.I'm morphing a few versions together.and it looks pretty good.(and "any input" wou