From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 1 09:33:01 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 8:24:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] window mechanisms Are the window mechanisms for the 66 & 67 the same for the 67.5? [my part book only says 66-67 with no mention of 67.5 for these parts.] Thanks Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 1 09:48:05 2009 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: Tim Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:42:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] window mechanisms I believe all window regulators were the same for all low windshields. If I am wrong, it would not be the first time and I promise it won't be my last. But I don't think this is one of those times. Chris On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Tim wrote: > Are the window mechanisms for the 66 & 67 the same for the 67.5? [my part > book only says 66-67 with no mention of 67.5 for these parts.] > > Thanks > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 '73 Mustang Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 1 10:02:41 2009 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:55:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] F.Y.I. The 2nd Annual SoCalROC Show-N-Shine Toy Drive is coming up on November 7, 2009 It does not matter where you are located if you want to be part of this event. For more information on how to be part of this and on how you can help log onto: www.socalroc.net Chris -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 '73 Mustang Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 1 10:02:51 2009 From: Tim To: Chris & Christy Breyer Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 8:56:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] window mechanisms That certainly makes sense to me. But before I get a set for a local guy here in Madison, I want to make sure a set from a 66 will fit a 67.5. Thanks Chris. Tim ---- Chris & Christy Breyer wrote: ============= I believe all window regulators were the same for all low windshields. If I am wrong, it would not be the first time and I promise it won't be my last. But I don't think this is one of those times. Chris On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Tim wrote: > Are the window mechanisms for the 66 & 67 the same for the 67.5? [my part > book only says 66-67 with no mention of 67.5 for these parts.] > > Thanks > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 '73 Mustang Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 1 10:50:03 2009 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:49:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] window mechanisms I doubt that they can be the same since the 'throw' is different - what is wrong with yours - they can be fixed - i rebuilt my driver side regulator > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:24:48 -0700 > From: tputland@charter.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] window mechanisms > > Are the window mechanisms for the 66 & 67 the same for the 67.5? [my part book only says 66-67 with no mention of 67.5 for these parts.] > > Thanks > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 1 20:33:09 2009 From: Michael Knorr To: Datsun Roadster Listserver Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:31:45 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Which model year was it? I've only ever driven low windshield SPLs and SRLs, and I'm continually fascinated by the posts on this lists about the subtle differences among the high-windshield models. Today, I stumbled upon a relatively nice high windshield two-liter outside of my local Whole Foods market. The owner was nowhere to be found. The car had thin cigar-shaped front quarter panel side reflectors and round silver dollar-sized rear quarter panel side reflectors. Can anyone tell me what model year that car might be? Regards, Michael Knorr 1966 SPL311-03639 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 1 20:36:49 2009 From: "dave" To: "'Tim'" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:36:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] window mechanisms According to Rallye, all 63 to 67.5 are the same. Left and right sides, of course are different, but the same part is listed 63 to 67.5, all models. I'm not aware of Dann's info ever being wrong. http://www.datsunroadster.com/SUB_SECT_USED_DIRECTORIES/used_body_misc.htm Dave Brisco ECR -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Christy Breyer [mailto:fairlady66@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:42 AM To: Tim Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] window mechanisms I believe all window regulators were the same for all low windshields. If I am wrong, it would not be the first time and I promise it won't be my last. But I don't think this is one of those times. Chris On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Tim wrote: > Are the window mechanisms for the 66 & 67 the same for the 67.5? [my part > book only says 66-67 with no mention of 67.5 for these parts.] > > Thanks > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 '73 Mustang Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 1 20:38:51 2009 From: RWM To: Michael Knorr Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:38:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Which model year was it? Michael, The tear-drop front and round rear side lamps make it a 1969 model year car. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Michael Knorr wrote: > I've only ever driven low windshield SPLs and SRLs, and I'm continually > fascinated by the posts on this lists about the subtle differences among the > high-windshield models. > > > > Today, I stumbled upon a relatively nice high windshield two-liter outside of > my local Whole Foods market. The owner was nowhere to be found. The car had > thin cigar-shaped front quarter panel side reflectors and round silver > dollar-sized rear quarter panel side reflectors. Can anyone tell me what model > year that car might be? > > > > Regards, Michael Knorr > > 1966 SPL311-03639 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 1 20:49:38 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:49:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Which model year was it? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Knorr Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:32 PM To: Datsun Roadster Listserver Subject: [Roadsters] Which model year was it? I've only ever driven low windshield SPLs and SRLs, and I'm continually fascinated by the posts on this lists about the subtle differences among the high-windshield models. Today, I stumbled upon a relatively nice high windshield two-liter outside of my local Whole Foods market. The owner was nowhere to be found. The car had thin cigar-shaped front quarter panel side reflectors and round silver dollar-sized rear quarter panel side reflectors. Can anyone tell me what model year that car might be? Regards, Michael Knorr 1966 SPL311-03639 Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 2 16:24:52 2009 From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Starter Hi all, My Starter died. I did check it and the commutator shorted possibly. Does any one know of a rebuild kit of an inexpensive one? I just did brakes all around, water pump, tires, carbs rebuilt, new battery plus more. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 2 17:55:17 2009 From: Robert Martinez To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Recommendations for Soft Top replacement In Southern Hi all. I have a '69 2000 and would like to replace the top. Any recommendations, pros/cons of vinyl vs canvas? Where to purchase and/or have it installed? Zipper/no zipper window? I like the look of canvas and am partial to a black colored top...I've seen a Haartz(?) top for about $450...any opinions on that brand?...personal price and installation experiences would be great...Thanks for your time. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 2 19:40:02 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Robert Martinez" , Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:12:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Recommendations for Soft Top replacement In Robert, Stayfast with a zip-out window. I have had a couple of tops on my '66-1600 in the 38 years I have owned the car. It now has an NOS Nissan canvas top. Nice, but I have a Stayfast top on the '67-1/2 2000 I bought a year ago, and it is, in my opinion, superior to any others I have had. I like canvas over vinyl, because it seems to stretch and shrink less with weather changes. May be my imagination. (No, I do not own stock in the company.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Martinez" To: Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Recommendations for Soft Top replacement In Southern California (L.A./O.C. area) > Hi all. I have a '69 2000 and would like to replace the top. > Any recommendations, pros/cons of vinyl vs canvas? > Where to purchase and/or have it installed? > Zipper/no zipper window? > I like the look of canvas and am partial to a black colored top...I've > seen a Haartz(?) top for about $450...any opinions on that > brand?...personal price and installation experiences would be > great...Thanks for your time. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 2 19:55:38 2009 From: "robert k. smith" To: , roadster list Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:53:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Which model year was it? hi michael, definitley a 1969 srl 311 bob smith, ohio 69 srl311 70 chev. elcamino > From: ppeters914@comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:49:56 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Which model year was it? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Knorr > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:32 PM > To: Datsun Roadster Listserver > Subject: [Roadsters] Which model year was it? > > I've only ever driven low windshield SPLs and SRLs, and I'm continually > fascinated by the posts on this lists about the subtle differences among the > high-windshield models. > > > > Today, I stumbled upon a relatively nice high windshield two-liter outside > of my local Whole Foods market. The owner was nowhere to be found. The car > had thin cigar-shaped front quarter panel side reflectors and round silver > dollar-sized rear quarter panel side reflectors. Can anyone tell me what > model year that car might be? > > > > Regards, Michael Knorr > > 1966 SPL311-03639 > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rksmith46@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 2 20:10:53 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Leonard Sprague Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:55:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2010 Sports & Exotic Car Calendar Ditto Alvin - Congratulations! Of course I like your car the best! Fred - So.SF, CA On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Leonard Sprague wrote: > alvin gogineni wrote: >> A Datsun amongst other "exotics" >> :)http://www.hemmings.com/store/detail_calendars.html?product_id=1376 >> >> Alvin Gogineni >> San Jose, CA >> 67.5 SPL/SR20 > > Nice!! > > I love the July one! Congratulations Alvin! > > Enjoy the ride, > Lenny Sprague > Gainesville, FL > > For Sale: 69 SPL311/VG30 > http://www.lennyandjulie.com/datsun/ > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 2 21:40:26 2009 From: Eddie To: David Boerst Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:38:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Starter I've got rebuilt starters. Do u need a long or short one? Eddie Sent from my iPhone plz excuse typing errors. :-) On Oct 2, 2009, at 3:23 PM, David Boerst wrote: > Hi all, > My Starter died. I did check it and the commutator shorted possibly. > Does any one know of a rebuild kit of an inexpensive one? I just did > brakes all around, water pump, tires, carbs rebuilt, new battery > plus more. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 3 05:56:12 2009 From: Tim To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, Robert Martinez Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 4:36:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Recommendations for Soft Top replacement In Ask Dan in Madison about his recent experience with buying a top. Maybe has some ear plugs and a censor beeper handy though. Tim Dairyland Datsuns ---- Robert Martinez wrote: ============= Hi all. I have a '69 2000 and would like to replace the top. Any recommendations, pros/cons of vinyl vs canvas? Where to purchase and/or have it installed? Zipper/no zipper window? I like the look of canvas and am partial to a black colored top...I've seen a Haartz(?) top for about $450...any opinions on that brand?...personal price and installation experiences would be great...Thanks for your time. You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 3 15:42:00 2009 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:31:52 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please If youre following my previous post, I decided to pull the motor so, I can have the engine bay painted when, the rest of the car is refinished. Please, read this long post, I need help. I thought I would tune up the engine then, run compression and leak down tests to check the health. If I have any issues, the time to correct would be while the engine was out. The engine was rebuilt 20 years ago. I put maybe 5,000 miles on it, then it sat dormant for 15+ years. While it was dormant, it was garaged. I routinely squirted oil in the cylinders and turned it over by hand to keep it from seizing up. I set my dwell and timing, balanced the carbs, and went for a spin. Results were fantastic. No hesitation. Pulled hard. Idled nicely. With accurate timing, it was running much cooler, also. Next, I ran the leak down test while the engine was hot. Initial results werent bad but, I ran out of time. Next day, I fired the engine up to get it warm, again for another test. Its running like crap. Backfiring through the carbs on occasion. Lots of hesitation. I drove it around the block to get it warm then, ran another test. Results looked good and were repeatable. 1. 100/93 (7%) 2. 110/94 (6%) 3. 100/96 (4%) 4. 100/96 (4%) During the leakdown tests, all the air was escaping from the crankcase. Absolutely nothing out of the carbs or tail pipe. Sounds like my valves are sealing nicely. While it was hot, checked all the valve clearances, 0.017. All in spec. Took a break. Warmed up the engine again and ran a compression test. Results were sporadic, no consistency. I ran each test several times and never got the same answer. Heres a sampling. 1. 170, 160, 145 2. 160, 140 3. 165, 150 4. 180, 170, 160 Im thinking my valves are sticking open. The leak down test may have forced the valves fully closed and any goo on the stem is now causing me problems. I did try swapping plug wires to see if it made a difference. Nothing. I didnt have a spare cap and rotor. So. What do you think? Thanks, Dan McHatton 66 1600 ____________________________________________________________ Earn your accounting degree online. Free info. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsCsLTvoqnv3jWQ5iFzqFNvCMvyy tstFbTxdbVhXJJMBJr8TX6VGdK/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 3 16:26:46 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:07:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Since the engine is out, why not pull the head and take a look? If the car has been sitting for 15 years, one obvious question is, did you drain the gas tank and lines before you stored it? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of hallosb@juno.com Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 2:32 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please If youre following my previous post, I decided to pull the motor so, I can have the engine bay painted when, the rest of the car is refinished. Please, read this long post, I need help. I thought I would tune up the engine then, run compression and leak down tests to check the health. If I have any issues, the time to correct would be while the engine was out. The engine was rebuilt 20 years ago. I put maybe 5,000 miles on it, then it sat dormant for 15+ years. While it was dormant, it was garaged. I routinely squirted oil in the cylinders and turned it over by hand to keep it from seizing up. I set my dwell and timing, balanced the carbs, and went for a spin. Results were fantastic. No hesitation. Pulled hard. Idled nicely. With accurate timing, it was running much cooler, also. Next, I ran the leak down test while the engine was hot. Initial results werent bad but, I ran out of time. Next day, I fired the engine up to get it warm, again for another test. Its running like crap. Backfiring through the carbs on occasion. Lots of hesitation. I drove it around the block to get it warm then, ran another test. Results looked good and were repeatable. 1. 100/93 (7%) 2. 110/94 (6%) 3. 100/96 (4%) 4. 100/96 (4%) During the leakdown tests, all the air was escaping from the crankcase. Absolutely nothing out of the carbs or tail pipe. Sounds like my valves are sealing nicely. While it was hot, checked all the valve clearances, 0.017. All in spec. Took a break. Warmed up the engine again and ran a compression test. Results were sporadic, no consistency. I ran each test several times and never got the same answer. Heres a sampling. 1. 170, 160, 145 2. 160, 140 3. 165, 150 4. 180, 170, 160 Im thinking my valves are sticking open. The leak down test may have forced the valves fully closed and any goo on the stem is now causing me problems. I did try swapping plug wires to see if it made a difference. Nothing. I didnt have a spare cap and rotor. So. What do you think? Thanks, Dan McHatton 66 1600 ____________________________________________________________ Earn your accounting degree online. Free info. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsCsLTvoqnv3jWQ5iFzqFNvCMvy y tstFbTxdbVhXJJMBJr8TX6VGdK/ Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 3 18:29:47 2009 From: "MH" To: "Gordon Glasgow" , , Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:07:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Sounds like "sticky gas" could be one factor, but easy to fix. m. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: ; Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please > Since the engine is out, why not pull the head and take a look? > > If the car has been sitting for 15 years, one obvious question is, did you > drain the gas tank and lines before you stored it? > > Gordon Glasgow > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > hallosb@juno.com > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 2:32 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please > > If youre following my previous post, I decided to pull the motor so, I can > have the engine bay painted when, the rest of the car is refinished. Please, > read this long post, I need help. > > I thought I would tune up the engine then, run compression and leak down > tests > to check the health. If I have any issues, the time to correct would be > while > the engine was out. The engine was rebuilt 20 years ago. I put maybe 5,000 > miles on it, then it sat dormant for 15+ years. While it was dormant, it was > garaged. I routinely squirted oil in the cylinders and turned it over by > hand > to keep it from seizing up. > > I set my dwell and timing, balanced the carbs, and went for a spin. Results > were fantastic. No hesitation. Pulled hard. Idled nicely. With accurate > timing, it was running much cooler, also. > > Next, I ran the leak down test while the engine was hot. Initial results > werent bad but, I ran out of time. Next day, I fired the engine up to get > it > warm, again for another test. Its running like crap. Backfiring through the > carbs on occasion. Lots of hesitation. I drove it around the block to get it > warm then, ran another test. Results looked good and were repeatable. > 1. 100/93 (7%) > 2. 110/94 (6%) > 3. 100/96 (4%) > 4. 100/96 (4%) > During the leakdown tests, all the air was escaping from the crankcase. > Absolutely nothing out of the carbs or tail pipe. Sounds like my valves are > sealing nicely. While it was hot, checked all the valve clearances, 0.017. > All in spec. > > Took a break. Warmed up the engine again and ran a compression test. Results > were sporadic, no consistency. I ran each test several times and never got > the > same answer. Heres a sampling. > 1. 170, 160, 145 > 2. 160, 140 > 3. 165, 150 > 4. 180, 170, 160 > > Im thinking my valves are sticking open. The leak down test may have forced > the valves fully closed and any goo on the stem is now causing me problems. > I > did try swapping plug wires to see if it made a difference. Nothing. I > didnt > have a spare cap and rotor. > > So. What do you think? > > Thanks, > Dan McHatton > 66 1600 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 3 20:59:00 2009 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:32:12 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Gordon: I'd like to pull the motor tomorrow. I'm thinking I may pull the head when the engine is on the stand. When I first fired it up a few months ago, the tank was drained completely, rinsed, and filled with fresh gas and Sta-bil. I then turned the motor over and flushed the lines into an empty gas can. I also pulled the SU's, cleaned them, and replaced the gaskets. I ran that tank dry and just added 2.5 gallons of fresh fuel a couple of days ago. Gary: The only thing I fussed with between the perfect running machine and disaster were the plug wires, coil wire, and plugs. I pulled them one at a time so, the firing order is still correct. 1-3-4-2 is easy to verify, also. They are indeed 20 year old wires. I replaced the plugs but, haven't replaced the wires, yet. On my last run, I stole a set of wires off my old Chevy. The only wire I didn't swap was the coil wire. Bob: With all my leakdown results below 10%, I don't think I'm having any problem with rings. >From what I'm hearing a sticking valve may not be the problem. I'm beginning to think this is ignition related. I'll replace the coil wire and see if I can dig up a spare rotor and cap. I hate to spend too much time, though. I really need to get this motor out so, I can get the car to the body shop. My weekend is slipping away fast. Thanks for all the responses, Dan McHatton '66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:07:43 -0700 Since the engine is out, why not pull the head and take a look? If the car has been sitting for 15 years, one obvious question is, did you drain the gas tank and lines before you stored it? Gordon Glasgow ____________________________________________________________ Accounting Education Free information on accounting education. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/c?cp=PCddBfAo6BRYWMwLzixM0gAAJz3b-7K uMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABaQAAAAA= ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 4 08:51:02 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:25:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Some pics from JCCS '09 Courtesy of Ted on the Bluebirds list. -----Original Message----- From: bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Ted Hedman Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:55 PM To: bluebird List Subject: Some pics from JCCS '09 http://tinyurl.com/yclplq6 Nice day, though rather warm. Was good to chat with Rex Jennett. Been a while. Spriso SR Roadsters took home some well deserved trophies. 4 Toyota 2000 GTs. No Leno sightings. Caveman style turkey legs for lunch. Fun to see the cars converging on the site in the morning. Heavy PoPo presence on exit, but saw no one lit up. Toyota and Mazda Corps get it, Nissan doesn't. Zero Nissan Corp presence. Lots and lots and lots of J-tin. -Ted ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 4 09:08:19 2009 From: "Ed Mitchell" To: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:43:33 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 1st car show HI All. Went to my first entered Car Show this weekend.over 250 entries - open to '78 and older street vehicles http://www.zianet.com/RTRD/2008%20RTRD/2008%20RTRD%20Pics.htm I'm not a member of this club.but they are a bunch of nice people.as most car peeps are it seems Out of the 250 Cars.40 Cars Won Awards...and Dead Betty was one of them.WOO HOO She got "Judges Choice". ( 8 Judges and each chose their fav.) Most of the cars were "Muscle and Mayhem".their engines cost what Dead Betty cost as a total. I had a 1956 Chevy (Monster) and a Ford Bronco next to me.and Dead Betty was getting most of the attention. It was amazing.people would walk up from a distance with this smirk of pleasant memories on their face... and you could just tell.they once owned one or had a story about one. Of Course all the Kids loved her. But I was leery of entering Dead Betty in this show.as the flyers and lit. Seemed it was all about muscle cars. But Dead Betty was just as Shiny and Show worthy. The 56 Chevy next to me Cranked it up...and shook the ground...and a crowd gathered All the men were drooling...and most of the women.looking at them with pity in their eyes. But when he was done "showing off" :-) .and with the crowd still circled around. just for fun.I cranked up Dead Betty.got the tickty tick I'm told Datsuns do.and got a good Laugh told the owner of the Chevy."we're racin' for Pink Slips at 4:30" he looked at me as if I were a fool...and the small crowd was laughing, tears were shed. I was funny...ya hadta be there maybe But it was fun. I didn't make the Event Web Site...as I'm not a member I guess.but I've got a couple of shots on my webshots album http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG e ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 4 09:49:04 2009 From: "Ed Mitchell" To: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:29:49 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 1st car show error Sorry..the link I posted was last year's show.no wonder dead betty wasn't there. I suk at this.stoopid computers But I'll get the link out when they update.sorry Thanks for pointing that out Pete. e ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 4 11:50:34 2009 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:21:48 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor I think my problem is my distributor. I found another cap and rotor then, went to grab my coil wire from my old Chevy to have a complete set of fresh plug wires. While I was there, I checked the play in the Chevy distributor rotor. When you twist it lightly and let it go, the springs snap it right back to the home position. When you try the same trick on the Datsun distributor, the rotor has lots of slop in it. I'm thinking my distributor is worn and causing my backfire problem. The engine idles smooth as glass. Engine timing is 16 BTDC on the nose. Dwell angle 51 degrees. As soon as you rev it up, it misses and backfires. What do you think?? Thanks, Dan McHatton '66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:51:01 -0500 Dan, I think you should be able to straighten things out via fuel and/or ignition issues before you pull the motor apart. A motor which runs fine one day doesn't suddenly run poorly unles there has been a catastrophic incident. It's either fuel or ignition, and I'd vote on ignition. I'd put a whole new set of wires on the car. If the plugs are not new, replace them also. Cheap way to eliminate those elements as possible culprits. Then go back through the ignition -- check the dwell and the timing. Let me know what results. Thanks. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Gary: The only thing I fussed with between the perfect running machine and disaster were the plug wires, coil wire, and plugs. I pulled them one at a time so, the firing order is still correct. 1-3-4-2 is easy to verify, also. They are indeed 20 year old wires. I replaced the plugs but, haven't replaced the wires, yet. On my last run, I stole a set of wires off my old Chevy. The only wire I didn't swap was the coil wire. ____________________________________________________________ You have a right to seek justice! Click here to find experienced lawyers across the USA. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsM918YNOmjQVvFlDsM0yerJp0Yb ql6L9Yx1aaRvCCH5jeZYYG8Fgs/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 4 12:39:21 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:10:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] rocker panel Does any one have a picture of a (complete) loose rocker panel they can send me? If so, can you measure it--length, width, etc-- as well and include those figures? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 4 14:34:22 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:07:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Put a timing light on it and watch what happens when you (or a helper) rev it up. Does the advance jump all over the place or does it advance smoothly? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of hallosb@juno.com Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:22 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor I think my problem is my distributor. I found another cap and rotor then, went to grab my coil wire from my old Chevy to have a complete set of fresh plug wires. While I was there, I checked the play in the Chevy distributor rotor. When you twist it lightly and let it go, the springs snap it right back to the home position. When you try the same trick on the Datsun distributor, the rotor has lots of slop in it. I'm thinking my distributor is worn and causing my backfire problem. The engine idles smooth as glass. Engine timing is 16 BTDC on the nose. Dwell angle 51 degrees. As soon as you rev it up, it misses and backfires. What do you think?? Thanks, Dan McHatton '66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:51:01 -0500 Dan, I think you should be able to straighten things out via fuel and/or ignition issues before you pull the motor apart. A motor which runs fine one day doesn't suddenly run poorly unles there has been a catastrophic incident. It's either fuel or ignition, and I'd vote on ignition. I'd put a whole new set of wires on the car. If the plugs are not new, replace them also. Cheap way to eliminate those elements as possible culprits. Then go back through the ignition -- check the dwell and the timing. Let me know what results. Thanks. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Gary: The only thing I fussed with between the perfect running machine and disaster were the plug wires, coil wire, and plugs. I pulled them one at a time so, the firing order is still correct. 1-3-4-2 is easy to verify, also. They are indeed 20 year old wires. I replaced the plugs but, haven't replaced the wires, yet. On my last run, I stole a set of wires off my old Chevy. The only wire I didn't swap was the coil wire. ____________________________________________________________ You have a right to seek justice! Click here to find experienced lawyers across the USA. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsM918YNOmjQVvFlDsM0yerJp0Y b ql6L9Yx1aaRvCCH5jeZYYG8Fgs/ Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 4 17:49:33 2009 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: hallosb@juno.com Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:27:19 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Try changing out your balast resistor on the side of the distributor, even if new. I've seen this exact problem caused by this on a friends 1600. Greg Burrows ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:21:48 GMT I think my problem is my distributor. I found another cap and rotor then, went to grab my coil wire from my old Chevy to have a complete set of fresh plug wires. While I was there, I checked the play in the Chevy distributor rotor. When you twist it lightly and let it go, the springs snap it right back to the home position. When you try the same trick on the Datsun distributor, the rotor has lots of slop in it. I'm thinking my distributor is worn and causing my backfire problem. The engine idles smooth as glass. Engine timing is 16 BTDC on the nose. Dwell angle 51 degrees. As soon as you rev it up, it misses and backfires. What do you think?? Thanks, Dan McHatton '66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:51:01 -0500 Dan, I think you should be able to straighten things out via fuel and/or ignition issues before you pull the motor apart. A motor which runs fine one day doesn't suddenly run poorly unles there has been a catastrophic incident. It's either fuel or ignition, and I'd vote on ignition. I'd put a whole new set of wires on the car. If the plugs are not new, replace them also. Cheap way to eliminate those elements as possible culprits. Then go back through the ignition -- check the dwell and the timing. Let me know what results. Thanks. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine test results, help please Gary: The only thing I fussed with between the perfect running machine and disaster were the plug wires, coil wire, and plugs. I pulled them one at a time so, the firing order is still correct. 1-3-4-2 is easy to verify, also. They are indeed 20 year old wires. I replaced the plugs but, haven't replaced the wires, yet. On my last run, I stole a set of wires off my old Chevy. The only wire I didn't swap was the coil wire. ____________________________________________________________ You have a right to seek justice! Click here to find experienced lawyers across the USA. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsM918YNOmjQVvFlDsM0yerJp0Yb ql6L9Yx1aaRvCCH5jeZYYG8Fgs/ You are subscribed as gregs672liter@netzero.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 4 18:33:10 2009 From: Patti Dwinell To: Ed Mitchell Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1st car show Congratulations!!!! Good for you!! Way to go Beautiful Betty!!! (formerly aka Dead Betty) Thank you for sharing the pictures and this great story. BTW...do you now hold the pink to the showy 56 Chevy? haha! Too funny! Patti --- On Sun, 10/4/09, Ed Mitchell wrote: From: Ed Mitchell Subject: [Roadsters] 1st car show To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 7:43 AM HI All. Went to my first entered Car Show this weekend.over 250 entries - open to '78 and older street vehicles http://www.zianet.com/RTRD/2008%20RTRD/2008%20RTRD%20Pics.htm I'm not a member of this club.but they are a bunch of nice people.as most car peeps are it seems Out of the 250 Cars.40 Cars Won Awards...and Dead Betty was one of them.WOO HOO She got "Judges Choice". ( 8 Judges and each chose their fav.) Most of the cars were "Muscle and Mayhem".their engines cost what Dead Betty cost as a total. I had a 1956 Chevy (Monster) and a Ford Bronco next to me.and Dead Betty was getting most of the attention. It was amazing.people would walk up from a distance with this smirk of pleasant memories on their face... and you could just tell.they once owned one or had a story about one. Of Course all the Kids loved her. But I was leery of entering Dead Betty in this show.as the flyers and lit. Seemed it was all about muscle cars. But Dead Betty was just as Shiny and Show worthy. The 56 Chevy next to me Cranked it up...and shook the ground...and a crowd gathered All the men were drooling...and most of the women.looking at them with pity in their eyes. But when he was done "showing off" :-) .and with the crowd still circled around. just for fun.I cranked up Dead Betty.got the tickty tick I'm told Datsuns do.and got a good Laugh told the owner of the Chevy."we're racin' for Pink Slips at 4:30" he looked at me as if I were a fool...and the small crowd was laughing, tears were shed. I was funny...ya hadta be there maybe But it was fun. I didn't make the Event Web Site...as I'm not a member I guess.but I've got a couple of shots on my webshots album http://rides.webshots.com/album/559322539UXctqG e You are subscribed as fairlady1964spl310@yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 4 19:34:10 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: gregs672liter@netzero.net, hallosb@juno.com Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:15:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor That's a condenser isn't it? Linda -----Original Message----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: hallosb@juno.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 4:27 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Try changing out your balast resistor on the side of the distributor, even if new. I've seen this exact problem caused by this on a friends 1600. Greg Burrows ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 00:34:29 2009 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:12:57 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Um, ya what ever it's called... I haven't had to mess with point since 1986... Greg ---------- Original Message ---------- From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: gregs672liter@netzero.net, hallosb@juno.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:15:12 -0400 That's a condenser isn't it? Linda -----Original Message----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: hallosb@juno.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 4:27 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Try changing out your balast resistor on the side of the distributor, even if new. I've seen this exact problem caused by this on a friends 1600. Greg Burrows ____________________________________________________________ Huge inventory of used cars and trucks. Click now to find the used car you need! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYbWS6XFzaoNNAKB8psdqnIao uTvJNr0UgwKKG6CbmXITq2AF3My44/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 03:50:01 2009 From: mohammed munaf To: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:23:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] jccs pictures 2009 http://www.slide.com/r/hmAUFFXU6j-XD_Xs8EGafd8iNUxV6Ubu?previous_view=lt_embe dded_url _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 07:52:19 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:35:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor I had a similar problem this spring with my 68 1600. One day it was driving fine, the next it was backfiring, missing and basically was all of a sudden running like crap. I tried replacing all the simple things like plugs, wires, coil, points. I checked the timing & dwell. All this troubleshooting took several days & nothing improved, I felt like I was chasing the problem around the engine bay...I finally bit the bullet & bought one of Dave Brisco's electronic distributors. It showed up in about a week & in one evening I had it installed and with a turn of the key, it fired right up & purred like a kitten. Who would have thought that the old distributor would go wacky in one day...I would have assumed an old distributor would get progressively worse over time, not in one day. Anyways, I love the new Electronic Dizzy, best upgrade to the roadster you can do. I highly recommend ! -Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:12 AM, gregs672liter@netzero.net < gregs672liter@netzero.net> wrote: > Um, ya what ever it's called... I haven't had to mess with point since > 1986... > Greg > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: ljordan704@netscape.net > To: gregs672liter@netzero.net, hallosb@juno.com > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor > Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:15:12 -0400 > > > That's a condenser isn't it? > > Linda > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gregs672liter@netzero.net > To: hallosb@juno.com > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 4:27 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor > > Try changing out your balast resistor on the side of the distributor, even > if > new. I've seen this exact problem caused by this on a friends 1600. > Greg Burrows > > ____________________________________________________________ > Huge inventory of used cars and trucks. Click now to find the used car you > need! > > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYbWS6XFzaoNNAKB8psdqnIao > uTvJNr0UgwKKG6CbmXITq2AF3My44/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cookefam314@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 09:00:32 2009 From: "robert k. smith" To: , roadster list Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:39:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor hi dan, if there isnt play(side to side) in the dist, shaft, then i would take the points plate off, and look at the mech. advance springs. you might find one broken, or the spring attaching holes might be worn. also, ck. the grounding wire from the points plate, to the dist. housing. good luck, bob smith ohio > > From: hallosb@juno.com > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:21:48 +0000 > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor > > I think my problem is my distributor. I found another cap and rotor then, went > to grab my coil wire from my old Chevy to have a complete set of fresh plug > wires. While I was there, I checked the play in the Chevy distributor rotor. > When you twist it lightly and let it go, the springs snap it right back to the > home position. When you try the same trick on the Datsun distributor, the > rotor has lots of slop in it. > > I'm thinking my distributor is worn and causing my backfire problem. The > engine idles smooth as glass. Engine timing is 16 BTDC on the nose. Dwell > angle 51 degrees. As soon as you rev it up, it misses and backfires. > > What do you think?? > > Thanks, > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 09:42:03 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor No. The condenser and ballast resistor are totally different electrical components (resistor vs capacitor) with totally different functions in ignition systems. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: ljordan704@netscape.net Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:12:57 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Um, ya what ever it's called... I haven't had to mess with point since 1986... Greg ---------- Original Message ---------- From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: gregs672liter@netzero.net, hallosb@juno.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:15:12 -0400 That's a condenser isn't it? Linda -----Original Message----- From: gregs672liter@netzero.net To: hallosb@juno.com Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 4:27 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Try changing out your ballast resistor on the side of the distributor, even if new. I've seen this exact problem caused by this on a friends 1600. Greg Burrowssters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 09:42:54 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: momunaf@hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:24:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] jccs pictures 2009 Great pics and presentation! Love Keith Urban. Thanks! Linda -----Original Message----- From: mohammed munaf To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:23 am Subject: [Roadsters] jccs pictures 2009 http://www.slide.com/r/hmAUFFXU6j-XD_Xs8EGafd8iNUxV6Ubu?previous_view=lt_embe dded_url _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 10:07:11 2009 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:50:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Engine in -- but no start -- hit list needed All, About two months ago my cam broke. At that time the car was running. I got a new cam, and a new head. Finally got them in, and the car won't start. I've tried what I think are the basics: 1) yelling 2) running the distributor through its swing to see if I could get a catch. 3) confirming spark 4) confirming gas pressure to the carb 5) confirming spark plug wire orientation Here's where I'm stuck up. I was pretty careful about keeping the timing gear at the same place on the chain, but I'd like to confirm that I've not screwed the mechanical timing. I still have some slack in the upper tensioner which makes it a little difficult to see where things are. And -- since I don't know what the hell I'm doing -- I could use a walk through about what top-dead on crank and cam shaft look like (i.e. is TDC when the cam pully knotch is at the indicator, or at 12 o'clock; and where should the cam lobes / gear orientation pin be at that point?) Another possible problem would be the SU carbs. I tried to store them oriented properly -- but my brother shuffled them around the garage a little/ Could I get the group wisdom on what what I should check and do as far as diagnostics. Nathaniel Leeds 1969 2000 - SU Garaged Brother's garage, Berkeley, CA ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 10:52:09 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:17:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor > Dan McHatton > > I think my problem is my distributor. I found another cap and rotor then, went > to grab my coil wire from my old Chevy to have a complete set of fresh plug > wires. While I was there, I checked the play in the Chevy distributor rotor. > When you twist it lightly and let it go, the springs snap it right back to the > home position. When you try the same trick on the Datsun distributor, the > rotor has lots of slop in it. > > I'm thinking my distributor is worn and causing my backfire problem. The > engine idles smooth as glass. Engine timing is 16 BTDC on the nose. Dwell > angle 51 degrees. As soon as you rev it up, it misses and backfires. > First, I'm pretty sure even without checking that your dwell is way off. IIRC, it should be around 30 degrees and it should be set before you set timing. Then the timing mark should remain stable at any RPM as you rev the engine. Yes, it should move (smoothly) as RPMs increase but any time you hold an engine speed the mark should not jump around, but stay in one spot, until you change engine speed again. There are a number of reasons for timing instability, including play in the distributor shaft or drive gears, a breaker/advance plate that's worn out, etc. HTH, Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 11:08:13 2009 From: Pat Horne To: nmleeds@mindspring.com Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:50:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine in -- but no start -- hit list needed To get a rough idea if the cam timing is correct, check compression. If it is up, then the cam is probably times at least close to where it should be. Peace, Pat Thusly spake nmleeds@mindspring.com, On 10/5/2009 10:50 AM: > All, > > About two months ago my cam broke. At that time the car was running. I got a new cam, and a new head. Finally got them in, and the car won't start. > > I've tried what I think are the basics: > > 1) yelling > 2) running the distributor through its swing to see if I could get a catch. > 3) confirming spark > 4) confirming gas pressure to the carb > 5) confirming spark plug wire orientation > > Here's where I'm stuck up. > > I was pretty careful about keeping the timing gear at the same place on the chain, but I'd like to confirm that I've not screwed the mechanical timing. > > I still have some slack in the upper tensioner which makes it a little difficult to see where things are. And -- since I don't know what the hell I'm doing -- I could use a walk through about what top-dead on crank and cam shaft look like (i.e. is TDC when the cam pully knotch is at the indicator, or at 12 o'clock; and where should the cam lobes / gear orientation pin be at that point?) > > Another possible problem would be the SU carbs. I tried to store them oriented properly -- but my brother shuffled them around the garage a little/ > > Could I get the group wisdom on what what I should check and do as far as diagnostics. > > Nathaniel Leeds > 1969 2000 - SU > Garaged > Brother's garage, Berkeley, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 11:53:11 2009 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:36:34 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Shaft Pully Bolt Size? ('69 2000) Anyone know this off to top of their head -- access is limited and I don't want to go out and order every large socket size known to man/machine. '69 2000. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 12:28:52 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:05:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine in -- but no start -- hit list needed At TDC, the timing mark on the front cover will be pointing at the big notch on the crank vibration damper (assuming the damper hasn't failed and allowed the outer portion to rotate relative to the crank). At TDC on the compression stroke for #1 cylinder, the locating pin on the cam gear will be at the 12 o'clock position and the cam lobes for that cylinder will be forming a V with the exhaust lobe tipped towards the manifold side and the intake lobe tipped the other way. If these don't match up, there's a problem. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of nmleeds@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:50 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Engine in -- but no start -- hit list needed All, About two months ago my cam broke. At that time the car was running. I got a new cam, and a new head. Finally got them in, and the car won't start. I've tried what I think are the basics: 1) yelling 2) running the distributor through its swing to see if I could get a catch. 3) confirming spark 4) confirming gas pressure to the carb 5) confirming spark plug wire orientation Here's where I'm stuck up. I was pretty careful about keeping the timing gear at the same place on the chain, but I'd like to confirm that I've not screwed the mechanical timing. I still have some slack in the upper tensioner which makes it a little difficult to see where things are. And -- since I don't know what the hell I'm doing -- I could use a walk through about what top-dead on crank and cam shaft look like (i.e. is TDC when the cam pully knotch is at the indicator, or at 12 o'clock; and where should the cam lobes / gear orientation pin be at that point?) Another possible problem would be the SU carbs. I tried to store them oriented properly -- but my brother shuffled them around the garage a little/ Could I get the group wisdom on what what I should check and do as far as diagnostics. Nathaniel Leeds 1969 2000 - SU Garaged Brother's garage, Berkeley, CA Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 12:51:14 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:07:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Crank Shaft Pully Bolt Size? ('69 2000) The socket size is 1-1/16". Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of nmleeds@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:37 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Crank Shaft Pully Bolt Size? ('69 2000) Anyone know this off to top of their head -- access is limited and I don't want to go out and order every large socket size known to man/machine. '69 2000. Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 12:52:40 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine in -- but no start -- hit list needed At top dead center the cam #1 and #2 lobes should be pointing at 10:00 and 2:00 when looking from the front. If they are 11:00 and 3:00 then you know you are off a little. Beware of crank pulleys that the outer ring has slipped from the inner ring. I've had a couple where the timing mark was not right because the outer ring slipped. You can take out the #1 plug and put a screwdriver or other long poker in the hole and resting on top of the piston. Crank it over by hand and feel the screwdriver to see where it tops out. You should also verify the spark plugs wires are hooked up in the correct order. I chased a non-starter for a while until I figured out that the distributor was out by 180 degrees and two of the wires were swapped. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 16:08:44 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:41:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 Replacement wiper blades Believe it our not my 68 1600 has winter wiper blades on it & it just looks ridiculous. I found this info on the Rallye website http://www.datsunroadster.info/PIC_PAGES/PARTS_INFO_PAGES/wiperblade_68-70_info.htm but it seems that original looking wiper blades are impossible to find. Does anyone have a source for these? I'd like to get something in silver on my car other that what they have at my local Auto Zone. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 19:27:07 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Ronnie Day" , "Roadster List" Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:09:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Ron, His dwell is fine. The standard dwell value for roadsters is variously stated in the Nissan manual as 50-54 degrees, 49-55 degrees and 50 to 55 degrees. These values are consistent with a point gap of 0.018 to 0.020 for the Hitachi distributor. I try for the lower end of the range since the dwell increases as the rubbing block wears. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Day" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor >> Dan McHatton >> >> I think my problem is my distributor. I found another cap and rotor then, > went >> to grab my coil wire from my old Chevy to have a complete set of fresh > plug >> wires. While I was there, I checked the play in the Chevy distributor > rotor. >> When you twist it lightly and let it go, the springs snap it right back >> to > the >> home position. When you try the same trick on the Datsun distributor, the >> rotor has lots of slop in it. >> >> I'm thinking my distributor is worn and causing my backfire problem. The >> engine idles smooth as glass. Engine timing is 16 BTDC on the nose. Dwell >> angle 51 degrees. As soon as you rev it up, it misses and backfires. >> > First, I'm pretty sure even without checking that your dwell is way off. > IIRC, it should be around 30 degrees and it should be set before you set > timing. Then the timing mark should remain stable at any RPM as you rev > the > engine. Yes, it should move (smoothly) as RPMs increase but any time you > hold an engine speed the mark should not jump around, but stay in one > spot, > until you change engine speed again. There are a number of reasons for > timing instability, including play in the distributor shaft or drive > gears, > a breaker/advance plate that's worn out, etc. > > HTH, > Ron > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 21:07:09 2009 From: "Jonathan W. Longo" To: , "Jonathan W. Longo" Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:47:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] oil pump/oil pump gasket and pan gasket hello listers, I'm changing the oil pump and it's gasket and pan gasket on my 67,1600. going to use Indianhead gasket shalak on the pump gasket and an old timer @ work said to use it on the oil pan gasket as well....is this a good idea to use it on both sides of the pan gasket ??? Thanks , Jonathan ,67/1600, San Bernardino , California _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 21:37:47 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Jonathan W. Longo'" , Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:17:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pump/oil pump gasket and pan gasket I wouldn't use it on a cork gasket, for sure. It's listed as "hard setting" so I wouldn't use it on the pan gasket. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan W. Longo Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:48 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net; Jonathan W. Longo Subject: [Roadsters] oil pump/oil pump gasket and pan gasket hello listers, I'm changing the oil pump and it's gasket and pan gasket on my 67,1600. going to use Indianhead gasket shalak on the pump gasket and an old timer @ work said to use it on the oil pan gasket as well....is this a good idea to use it on both sides of the pan gasket ??? Thanks , Jonathan ,67/1600, San Bernardino , California _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 22:22:11 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Jonathan W. Longo" , Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:00:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pump/oil pump gasket and pan gasket My preference is Permatex RTV sealant for the pan gasket. The shellac is OK for the pump gasket. Toreu value for the oil pan bolts (machine screws) is only 3.5 ft-lbs. Be careful not to overtighten. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan W. Longo" To: ; "Jonathan W. Longo" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:47 PM Subject: [Roadsters] oil pump/oil pump gasket and pan gasket > hello listers, > I'm changing the oil pump and it's gasket and pan gasket on my > 67,1600. > going to use Indianhead gasket shalak on the pump gasket and an old timer > @ > work said to use it on the oil pan gasket as well....is this a good idea > to > use it on both sides of the pan gasket ??? Thanks , Jonathan ,67/1600, San > Bernardino , California > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: > Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 5 23:23:04 2009 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:51:28 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Thanks for all the responses. After fiddling with it for 2 days, I put the troubleshooting on hold. I really need to get my car to the body shop. I hope to have the motor out by next weekend and my car into the body shop next Monday. I'm going to put the engine on a stand to paint it. I'll check the advance springs and let you know what I find. Thanks again, Dan McHatton '66 1600 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:07:03 -0700 Put a timing light on it and watch what happens when you (or a helper) rev it up. Does the advance jump all over the place or does it advance smoothly? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of hallosb@juno.com Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:22 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor I think my problem is my distributor. ____________________________________________________________ Weight Loss Program Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/c?cp=VcKVA4FkP8FX4TxJf36llwAAJz3b-7K uMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA= ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 6 03:51:52 2009 From: "Bubba" To: "Pete Peters" , "Datsun Roadster List" Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:29:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor Usually when a ballast resistor fails the engine starts, then dies as soon as you release the key to the run position. The ballast resistor reduces voltage to the coil to help save the points. There is a crank bypass circuit that provides cranking (battery) voltage when cranking to give lots of juice to start. Once you release the key, the ballast resistor is fed from the "B" terminal on the starter. as it heats up the resistance increases, dropping the voltage, saving the points. The condenser basically absorbs any voltage spikes on the primary side of the coil when the points open to cause a spark. This all but eliminates an arc as the points are beginning to open. Otherwise full voltage could jump the air gap a bit and reduce the effectiveness of the spark, and delay spark timing Bob Winslade 1966-1600 "Missy" getting a KA24E 1967-1600 "Bender" on hold 1972-510 "Daisy" Regular driver 1972-510 "Spare Change" not sure yet 1993-240SX "Essex" new toy I bought for Mamma (supposed to be a KA24DE donor but it's too nice and needs little) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor > No. The condenser and ballast resistor are totally different electrical > components (resistor vs capacitor) with totally different functions in > ignition systems. > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gregs672liter@netzero.net > To: ljordan704@netscape.net > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:12:57 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor > > Um, ya what ever it's called... I haven't had to mess with point since > 1986... > Greg > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: ljordan704@netscape.net > To: gregs672liter@netzero.net, hallosb@juno.com > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor > Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:15:12 -0400 > > > That's a condenser isn't it? > > Linda > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gregs672liter@netzero.net > To: hallosb@juno.com > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 4:27 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Engine test results, suspect distributor > > Try changing out your ballast resistor on the side of the distributor, > even if > new. I've seen this exact problem caused by this on a friends 1600. > Greg Burrowssters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 6 08:35:45 2009 From: Pat Horne To: "Jonathan W. Longo" Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:16:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pump/oil pump gasket and pan gasket I'm not a big fan of shellac because it dries hard and can crack over time. My favorite gasket sealer for the last 40+ years has been Permatex #3 - also known as Aviation Form-a-Gasket. It is non-hardening. On gaskets between parts, such as oil pump to engine, I'd use it on both sides of the gasket. On pan gaskets I prefer to glue the gasket to only one surface, generally the sheet metal surface, rather than the machined block surface. Since this is a cork gasket just light tightening should make the gasket seal, while the gasket sealer will hold the gasket in place until the pan is tightened. I just went to the Permatex web site and it seems that they recommend Permatex #2 for pan and valve cover gaskets. I haven't tried this sealer, but will next time I have an engine open. BTW, Permatex lists their part numbers as 3H or 2A, etc. The letter following the number indicates the size of the container and has nothing to do with the composition of the sealer. Back in my early days with air-cooled VWs, I used the form-a-gasket to hold the cork gaskets to the sheet metal valve covers and didn't use any sealer between those gaskets and the heads. Never had a leak at those locations. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Jonathan W. Longo, On 10/5/2009 9:47 PM: > hello listers, > I'm changing the oil pump and it's gasket and pan gasket on my 67,1600. > going to use Indianhead gasket shalak on the pump gasket and an old timer @ > work said to use it on the oil pan gasket as well....is this a good idea to > use it on both sides of the pan gasket ??? Thanks , Jonathan ,67/1600, San > Bernardino , California > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: > Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 6 09:18:18 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:48:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil pump/oil pump gasket and pan gasket I like 3Bond. Also called Yamabond. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 6 18:12:14 2009 From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Thermostat housing I have a 1969 SPL311 that I am puting together. It is a matching numbers car. I was a parts car but I have 5 others so I am "trying" to build 2 out of the 5. I need a complete housing set up. Anyone have one they would sell? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 7 07:27:06 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:00:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] (68-70 wiper blades ?) Sorry if this was posted twice, but I didn't see it go thru the first time I posted it, so I'm re-posting... Believe it our not my 68 1600 has winter wiper blades on it & it just looks ridiculous. I found this info on the Rallye website http://www.datsunroadster.info/PIC_PAGES/PARTS_INFO_PAGES/wiperblade_68-70_info.htm but it seems that original looking wiper blades are impossible to find. Does anyone have a source for these? I'd like to get something in silver on my car other that what they have at my local Auto Zone. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 7 13:12:28 2009 From: "Matt Kall" To: , Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:36:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] looking shift plate and center console any chance you have a decent center console and a 5spd shift plate cover in any of those part cars? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of datsun-roadsters-request@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:00 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 422 Send Datsun-roadsters mailing list submissions to datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to datsun-roadsters-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at datsun-roadsters-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Datsun-roadsters digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Thermostat housing (David Boerst) 2. (68-70 wiper blades ?) (Dave Cooke) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT) From: David Boerst Subject: [Roadsters] Thermostat housing To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Message-ID: <407727.69824.qm@web58604.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a 1969 SPL311 that I am puting together. It is a matching numbers car. I was a parts car but I have 5 others so I am "trying" to build 2 out of the 5. I need a complete housing set up. Anyone have one they would sell? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:00:42 -0500 From: Dave Cooke Subject: [Roadsters] (68-70 wiper blades ?) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Message-ID: <83a7d2520910070600m766d4dbhb63dd8977b6147d5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry if this was posted twice, but I didn't see it go thru the first time I posted it, so I'm re-posting... Believe it our not my 68 1600 has winter wiper blades on it & it just looks ridiculous. I found this info on the Rallye website http://www.datsunroadster.info/PIC_PAGES/PARTS_INFO_PAGES/wiperblade_68-70_i nfo.htm but it seems that original looking wiper blades are impossible to find. Does anyone have a source for these? I'd like to get something in silver on my car other that what they have at my local Auto Zone. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list Datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 3, Issue 422 ************************************************ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 7 14:10:28 2009 From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Electronic Distributer What cars/engines do I need to look for to convert my womans 1966 SPL311? What will it take to do the swap? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 7 14:41:12 2009 From: Eddie To: David Boerst Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:18:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electronic Distributer Convert it to what? I've seen everything put in a roadster... from other small 4 cylinder engines to Chevy 350's.... It's all relative... You might want to look at 311s.org Eddie David Boerst wrote: > What cars/engines do I need to look for to convert my womans 1966 SPL311? What will it take to do the swap? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 7 23:12:28 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electronic Distributer What Eddie said....please be specific. On the assumption you're asking about converting the stock points distributor to electronic ignition, there are several options. Start here: Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie" To: "David Boerst" Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 1:18:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Electronic Distributer Convert it to what? I've seen everything put in a roadster... from other small 4 cylinder engines to Chevy 350's.... It's all relative... You might want to look at 311s.org Eddie David Boerst wrote: > What cars/engines do I need to look for to convert my womans 1966 SPL311? What will it take to do the swap? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 10:01:33 2009 From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 I posted about a electronic distributor and got engine swap ideas. Thank you Eddie and Paul but what I am looking for, is it possible to put in an electronic distributor in a 1600 engine? If so what engines would I need to look for to make the swap. I am tired of points. Is there a aftermarket kit? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 10:16:33 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 8:46:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] easy seat removal Earlier this year someone said something to the effect: If I had known how many times I would be removing the seats, I would have installed push pins (<---???) for easy seat removal. Does any one remember this, or remember saying this? What was being referred to? Thanks Looking to speed up and make easier the removal of the seats in my 2000. Tim Dairyland Datsuns ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 10:31:50 2009 From: Eddie To: David Boerst Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:03:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 Dave Brisco makes an electronic ignition for the 1600 that normally comes in a Roadster.. (BTW, if you re-read what you wrote, it sounds like you're talking about swapping engines) If your goal is to have an electronic distributor, there is no need to swap the engine. Just swap out the distributor. Eddie David Boerst wrote: > I posted about a electronic distributor and got engine swap ideas. Thank you Eddie and Paul but what I am looking for, is it possible to put in an electronic distributor in a 1600 engine? If so what engines would I need to look for to make the swap. I am tired of points. Is there a aftermarket kit? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 10:33:12 2009 From: Pat Horne To: David Boerst Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:13:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 There is no drop-in swap that can be done, all electronic distributors will need to be modified to work on our cars. There is an electronic module that can be installed in our distributors to get rid of the points, but I believe too many folks had trouble with reliability. It is made by Pertronics. I don't recall the part number, but I'll bet it is in the archives, or on 311s.org. Peace, Pat Thusly spake David Boerst, On 10/8/2009 10:30 AM: > I posted about a electronic distributor and got engine swap ideas. Thank you Eddie and Paul but what I am looking for, is it possible to put in an electronic distributor in a 1600 engine? If so what engines would I need to look for to make the swap. I am tired of points. Is there a aftermarket kit? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 10:48:40 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:26:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal I missed that comment, but it might have been referring to using something like hood pins. This, however, would definitely NOT be a good idea in real life, since those pins aren't designed to take any real load, as might be experienced in an accident. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:47 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] easy seat removal Earlier this year someone said something to the effect: If I had known how many times I would be removing the seats, I would have installed push pins (<---???) for easy seat removal. Does any one remember this, or remember saying this? What was being referred to? Thanks Looking to speed up and make easier the removal of the seats in my 2000. Tim Dairyland Datsuns Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 10:48:48 2009 From: Eddie To: Tim Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:27:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal I'd be careful with that. Seats removing themselves at an inopportune moment could be problematic... :-) Eddie Tim wrote: > Earlier this year someone said something to the effect: > > If I had known how many times I would be removing the seats, I would have installed push pins (<---???) for easy seat removal. > > Does any one remember this, or remember saying this? What was being referred to? > > Thanks > > Looking to speed up and make easier the removal of the seats in my 2000. > > Tim > Dairyland Datsuns > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 11:46:14 2009 From: Gary McCormick To: 'Tim' , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal What fastener would the proposed push pins be replacing? If it's the bolts securing the seat to the slide or the slide rails to the floor, this wouldn't be a good idea (I'm going from a look at the Parts Book microfiche - I haven't looked at the seat installation in my car). Ball-lock pins are designed to be loaded in shear, but they don't secure components axially like a cinched-down bolt and nut, and the lateral movement that would result from the necessary assembly clearance would be undesirable in a seat installation. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA b70 2000, SRL311-13291 --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Gordon Glasgow wrote: From: Gordon Glasgow Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 9:26 AM I missed that comment, but it might have been referring to using something like hood pins. This, however, would definitely NOT be a good idea in real life, since those pins aren't designed to take any real load, as might be experienced in an accident. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:47 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] easy seat removal Earlier this year someone said something to the effect: If I had known how many times I would be removing the seats, I would have installed push pins (<---???) for easy seat removal. Does any one remember this, or remember saying this? What was being referred to? Thanks Looking to speed up and make easier the removal of the seats in my 2000. Tim Dairyland Datsuns Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 11:47:35 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 I replied last night, but it didn't go through. A ton of information on 311s.org, so I always recommend checking there. For converting the stock points distributor to electronic ignition, there are several options. Start here: Pete "happily points free since 2005" ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Boerst" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 8:30:55 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 I posted about a electronic distributor and got engine swap ideas. Thank you Eddie and Paul but what I am looking for, is it possible to put in an electronic distributor in a 1600 engine? If so what engines would I need to look for to make the swap. I am tired of points. Is there a aftermarket kit? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 11:47:42 2009 From: "alagams@juno.com" To: dboerst@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:13:43 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 I run a Dave Brisco EI and never had a problem. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:30:55 -0700 (PDT) I posted about a electronic distributor and got engine swap ideas. Thank you Eddie and Paul but what I am looking for, is it possible to put in an electronic distributor in a 1600 engine? If so what engines would I need to look for to make the swap. I am tired of points. Is there a aftermarket kit? You are subscribed as alagams@juno.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYcngHflq8kCBwQ7MIcw3qa48 76bGPHZwB4RfQSnZfGHPMJCELG/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 12:06:51 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] test email..okay to delete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 12:44:16 2009 From: RWM To: Gary McCormick Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:02:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 13:10:31 2009 From: Jim Anable To: pat@hornesystemstx.com Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:08:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 Pat Horne wrote: > There is no drop-in swap that can be done, all electronic distributors > will need to be modified to work on our cars. > > There is an electronic module that can be installed in our > distributors to get rid of the points, but I believe too many folks > had trouble with reliability. It is made by Pertronics. I don't recall > the part number, but I'll bet it is in the archives, or on 311s.org. I've been running a Pertronix in my 2000 for the last 3 or 4 summers, with no problems. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 14:32:27 2009 From: "Jim Svedise" To: , "Datsun Club" Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:39:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 I been running a Crane fireball ignition kit (XR700 I think if you need to I will go out and check it for you) with a high output coil from Summit for about 6 years now. Works great no problems and easy to install. Jim 70 2000 > I replied last night, but it didn't go through. A ton of information on > 311s.org, so I always recommend checking there. For converting the stock > points distributor to electronic ignition, there are several options. > Start here: > > > > Pete "happily points free since 2005" > > > I posted about a electronic distributor and got engine swap ideas. Thank > you Eddie and Paul but what I am looking for, is it possible to put in an > electronic distributor in a 1600 engine? If so what engines would I need > to look for to make the swap. I am tired of points. Is there a aftermarket > kit? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 14:32:46 2009 From: RWM To: Gary McCormick Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:42:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal Not to mention you'd have to drill the existing seat bolts to fit the push/pop-pins. There is not enough meat there for comfort -- on either bolt or pin. Gary McCormick wrote: > What fastener would the proposed push pins be replacing? If it's the bolts > securing the seat to the slide or the slide rails to the floor, this wouldn't > be a good idea (I'm going from a look at the Parts Book microfiche - I haven't > looked at the seat installation in my car). > > Ball-lock pins are designed to be loaded in shear, but they don't secure > components axially like a cinched-down bolt and nut, and the lateral movement > that would result from the necessary assembly clearance would be undesirable > in a seat installation. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > b70 2000, SRL311-13291 > > --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Gordon Glasgow wrote: > > From: Gordon Glasgow > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal > To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" > > Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 9:26 AM > > I missed that comment, but it might have been referring to using something > like hood pins. This, however, would definitely NOT be a good idea in real > life, since those pins aren't designed to take any real load, as might be > experienced in an accident. > > Gordon Glasgow > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:47 AM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] easy seat removal > > Earlier this year someone said something to the effect: > > If I had known how many times I would be removing the seats, I would have > installed push pins (<---???) for easy seat removal. > > Does any one remember this, or remember saying this? What was being referred > to? > > Thanks > > Looking to speed up and make easier the removal of the seats in my 2000. > > Tim > Dairyland Datsuns > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rwm@rwmann.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info@RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 14:32:54 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: dboerst@yahoo.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:50:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 The Pertronix predates the EI dizzy conversion , but you have to have the correct coil, ballast resistor etc to have it work properly. I believe there is also info on this swap on 311 as well. It is a cheaper option than the EIdizzy. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Jim Anable To: pat@hornesystemstx.com Cc: David Boerst ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 11:08 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 Pat Horne wrote:? > There is no drop-in swap that can be done, all electronic distributors > will need to be modified to work on our cars.? >? > There is an electronic module that can be installed in our > distributors to get rid of the points, but I believe too many folks > had trouble with reliability. It is made by Pertronics. I don't recall > the part number, but I'll bet it is in the archives, or on 311s.org. I've been running a Pertronix in my 2000 for the last 3 or 4 summers, with no problems.? ________________________________________? Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? ? You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? ? Datsun-roadsters mailing list? ? http://www.team.net/archive? ? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 14:34:09 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:59:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] seat removal, pin usage OK, that was me that made that remark some time ago. My wiring woes have lead to lots of underdash gyrations, so lots of seat removal. All are correct, any sort of ball-lock pins are only good in shear, so you'd have to cut off the studs off the bottom of the seats, weld on flat tabs with a hole in the bottom, and then install the pin so that it was parallel to the floor. You'd also want to make washers that had slots instead of holes, to mate with the flat tabs sticking down. This would leave you no cinch-up, so there would be some play, which would not only be annoying, but when they were finally impact-loaded, would be prone to breaking, and would be prone to ripping the floorboard. Simpler / easier? No. Safer? No. Just an idea, not necessarily a "good" idea. With all that trouble, I think I'd just weld on larger studs (not so prone to stripping), and use nylocks (like I do now) Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. Fergus O Useful roadster content: I am going on the SoCal TT run this Sunday/Monday, backroads from Glendale to Los Alamos via the backroads. Looks to be an unassuming bunch from previous pic collections. http://www.socaltt.com/ Incidentally, there are still spots open. (organizer has rooms reserved in Los Alamos) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 15:34:45 2009 From: "Chris & Christy Breyer" To: ljordan704@netscape.net Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:01:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 I took off my points and went with The Pertronix before I did the EI Dizzy. I used the sane Bosch coil that was there with the points, by-passed the ballast and it was great, drove the heck out of it. Then I stepped up once more and up-graded to the Brisco EI Dizzy, it was an awesome move. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:50 PM, wrote: > The Pertronix predates the EI dizzy conversion , but you have to have the > correct coil, ballast resistor etc to have it work properly. I believe there > is also info on this swap on 311 as well. It is a cheaper option than the > EIdizzy. > > Linda > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Anable > To: pat@hornesystemstx.com > Cc: David Boerst ; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 11:08 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Change points to Electronic on 1600 > > > > > > > > > > Pat Horne wrote:? > > > There is no drop-in swap that can be done, all electronic distributors > > will need to be modified to work on our cars.? > > >? > > > There is an electronic module that can be installed in our > > distributors to get rid of the points, but I believe too many folks > > had trouble with reliability. It is made by Pertronics. I don't recall > > the part number, but I'll bet it is in the archives, or on 311s.org. > I've been running a Pertronix in my 2000 for the last 3 or 4 summers, > with no problems.? > > ________________________________________? > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html? > ? > > You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net? > ? > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list? > ? > > http://www.team.net/archive? > ? > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- Our Classic Rides: '66 1600 '70 521 '73 Mustang Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ If you are lucky enough to stand next to a Datsun, then you are lucky enough. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 15:35:42 2009 From: "hallosb@juno.com" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:12:42 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Differential plug / drive shaft This weekend, I'll be pulling the driveshaft in preparation for pulling the motor/tranny. Before I start, I have two questions. 1. Is it necessary to mark the position of the driveshaft in relation to the differential and/or transmission? I've removed driveshafts many times. Sometimes I remember to mark them. Sometimes I don't. I've always wondered if it really matters. I don't think it does but, I'm interested in other opinions. 2. My differential drain plug leaks. I've never had this problem on any of my other cars. I believe the drain plug has pipe thread so, it should seal itself. When I'm working on cars, I've never been a big fan of adding sealant or teflon tape on threaded connections. It seems to me you're just running the risk of getting goop or tape in the internals. Am I worrying too much? If you did use sealant on the threads, what would you use? TIA, Dan McHatton '66 1600 ____________________________________________________________ Medical Billing & Coding Earn your medical billing and coding degree, 100% online! Enroll now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/c?cp=8Xciu7BzFWpzFS6NEtMTzQAAJz3b-7K uMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAQAAAAFAAAAAIlFDEAAAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANiUQAAAAA= ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 16:29:47 2009 From: Eddie To: "hallosb@juno.com" Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:08:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Differential plug / drive shaft My opinion, marking the position of the driveshaft isn't a big deal, but can't hurt to do it. 2) The drain plug leaking. If you put teflon tape ON the threads ONLY, it shouldn't get into the internals. I'd check to see if the threads are stripped if it's leaking though... Eddie hallosb@juno.com wrote: > This weekend, I'll be pulling the driveshaft in preparation for pulling the > motor/tranny. Before I start, I have two questions. > > 1. Is it necessary to mark the position of the driveshaft in relation to the > differential and/or transmission? I've removed driveshafts many times. > Sometimes I remember to mark them. Sometimes I don't. I've always wondered if > it really matters. I don't think it does but, I'm interested in other > opinions. > > 2. My differential drain plug leaks. I've never had this problem on any of my > other cars. I believe the drain plug has pipe thread so, it should seal > itself. When I'm working on cars, I've never been a big fan of adding sealant > or teflon tape on threaded connections. It seems to me you're just running > the risk of getting goop or tape in the internals. Am I worrying too much? If > you did use sealant on the threads, what would you use? > > TIA, > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Medical Billing & Coding > Earn your medical billing and coding degree, 100% online! Enroll now. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/c?cp=8Xciu7BzFWpzFS6NEtMTzQAAJz3b-7K > uMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAQAAAAFAAAAAIlFDEAAAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANiUQAAAAA= > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eddietude@socal.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 17:27:49 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: chalsted@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:05:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (68-70 wiper blades ?) Craig, Actually I am referring only to the wiper blade assembly (rubber squeege & metal blade). I have the correct wiper arms, it's just the wiper blade assembly doesn't look like it should on this period car. I checked my 69 roadster & it just has a black Anco replacement wiper. I guess, I'm looking for one that's silver or stainless steel. I did find this product for classic cars on the web at http://www.motoringclassics.co.uk/bayonet-wiper-blade/p1922 , It shows a 14" bayonet blade assembly in stainless steel or hand polished. Anyone ever bought these? On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > Hi Dave, > > are you looking for the blades or the whole wiper arm from the pivot out. > if just the rubber blade, easy enough to get a refill. as for the arms, I > have the arms good used condition if that would help you out > > Regards, > > Craig Halsted > -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 17:42:32 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: chalsted@comcast.net, datsun-roadsters Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:19:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (68-70 wiper blades ?) I found a link to the manufacturer, Tex Automotive, but it looks like they only sell this product in England, no shipping to the US. Here's a photo of the blade they make for the roadster. http://www.texautomotive.com/images/Classic/Wipers/B128.jpg Looks like a nice looking product, now just need to find out how to buy it... On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Dave Cooke wrote: > Craig, Actually I am referring only to the wiper blade assembly > (rubber squeege & metal blade). I have the correct wiper arms, it's just the > wiper blade assembly doesn't look like it should on this period car. I > checked my 69 roadster & it just has a black Anco replacement wiper. I > guess, I'm looking for one that's silver or stainless steel. I did find this > product for classic cars on the web at > http://www.motoringclassics.co.uk/bayonet-wiper-blade/p1922 , It shows a > 14" bayonet blade assembly in stainless steel or hand polished. Anyone ever > bought these? > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > >> Hi Dave, >> >> are you looking for the blades or the whole wiper arm from the pivot out. >> if just the rubber blade, easy enough to get a refill. as for the arms, I >> have the arms good used condition if that would help you out >> >> Regards, >> >> Craig Halsted >> > > > > -- > Dave Cooke > Midwest Roadsters > -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 18:13:04 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:51:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Great coverage of SR powered roadsters at JCCS! Check out Eric and James' cars....stunning SprisoMotosports creations http://blog.cardomain.com/2009/10/06/suntory-times-classic-car-show-with-a-ja panese-twist/ http://speedhunters.com/archive/2009/10/07/event-gt-gt-jccs-09-pt-3.aspx Check out the lead photo on the Road & Track article! http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=33&article_id=8449 Also a little coverage from the informal Cars & Coffee Meet at dawn: http://cncpics.com/v/0910/091003_001/ enjoy, and good job Michael and Eric!Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 18:56:42 2009 From: Tim To: alvin gogineni , Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:38:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great coverage of SR powered roadsters at JCCS! Whose white 69 is that? Beautiful! That is the look I want to do with Dad's car...JDM style.... teardrops no rear markers, etc etc. Again, whose is that? PLEASE, EMAIL ME OFF LIST. drooling on my keyboard Tim ---- alvin gogineni wrote: ============= Check out Eric and James' cars....stunning SprisoMotosports creations http://blog.cardomain.com/2009/10/06/suntory-times-classic-car-show-with-a-ja panese-twist/ http://speedhunters.com/archive/2009/10/07/event-gt-gt-jccs-09-pt-3.aspx Check out the lead photo on the Road & Track article! http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=33&article_id=8449 Also a little coverage from the informal Cars & Coffee Meet at dawn: http://cncpics.com/v/0910/091003_001/ enjoy, and good job Michael and Eric!Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 19:11:12 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: , Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:54:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Differential plug / drive shaft On a 1600, it shouldn't be necessary to mark the driveshaft because both u-joints come out with the driveshaft, thus they can't get out of phase. On the 2000 it's a different matter, since the front u-joint is attached to the yoke on the back of the trans and the slip-joint is what comes apart. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of hallosb@juno.com Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:13 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Differential plug / drive shaft This weekend, I'll be pulling the driveshaft in preparation for pulling the motor/tranny. Before I start, I have two questions. 1. Is it necessary to mark the position of the driveshaft in relation to the differential and/or transmission? I've removed driveshafts many times. Sometimes I remember to mark them. Sometimes I don't. I've always wondered if it really matters. I don't think it does but, I'm interested in other opinions. 2. My differential drain plug leaks. I've never had this problem on any of my other cars. I believe the drain plug has pipe thread so, it should seal itself. When I'm working on cars, I've never been a big fan of adding sealant or teflon tape on threaded connections. It seems to me you're just running the risk of getting goop or tape in the internals. Am I worrying too much? If you did use sealant on the threads, what would you use? TIA, Dan McHatton '66 1600 ____________________________________________________________ Medical Billing & Coding Earn your medical billing and coding degree, 100% online! Enroll now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/c?cp=8Xciu7BzFWpzFS6NEtMTzQAAJz3b-7 K uMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAQAAAAFAAAAAIlFDEAAAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANiUQAAAAA= Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 19:57:50 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:25:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (68-70 wiper blades ?) Try the junkyards for a possible match with other Datsuns. 510? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Dave Cooke To: chalsted@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2009 4:19 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (68-70 wiper blades ?) I found a link to the manufacturer, Tex Automotive, but it looks like they only sell this product in England, no shipping to the US. Here's a photo of the blade they make for the roadster. http://www.texautomotive.com/images/Classic/Wipers/B128.jpg Looks like a nice looking product, now just need to find out how to buy it... On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Dave Cooke wrote: ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 22:57:41 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:28:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (68-70 wiper blades ?) Might check with Victoria British, the B-Hive, Moss Motors, and other British car suppliers. Leigh Brooks (aka shifty) purchased Tex mirrors for the Rat from one of them: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cooke Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:20 PM To: chalsted@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (68-70 wiper blades ?) I found a link to the manufacturer, Tex Automotive, but it looks like they only sell this product in England, no shipping to the US. Here's a photo of the blade they make for the roadster. Looks like a nice looking product, now just need to find out how to buy it... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cooke Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:06 PM To: chalsted@comcast.net; datsun-roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (68-70 wiper blades ?) Craig, Actually I am referring only to the wiper blade assembly (rubber squeege & metal blade). I have the correct wiper arms, it's just the wiper blade assembly doesn't look like it should on this period car. I checked my 69 roadster & it just has a black Anco replacement wiper. I guess, I'm looking for one that's silver or stainless steel. I did find this product for classic cars on the web at http://www.motoringclassics.co.uk/bayonet-wiper-blade/p1922> It shows a 14" bayonet blade assembly in stainless steel or hand polished. Anyone ever bought these? -- Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > Hi Dave, > > are you looking for the blades or the whole wiper arm from the pivot out. > if just the rubber blade, easy enough to get a refill. as for the > arms, I have the arms good used condition if that would help you out > > Regards, > > Craig Halsted ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 22:58:02 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:29:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great coverage of SR powered roadsters at JCCS! That's Eric's car. Thoroughly discussed on 311s.org over the past year or two. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:39 PM To: alvin gogineni; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Great coverage of SR powered roadsters at JCCS! Whose white 69 is that? Beautiful! That is the look I want to do with Dad's car...JDM style.... teardrops no rear markers, etc etc. Again, whose is that? PLEASE, EMAIL ME OFF LIST. drooling on my keyboard Tim ---- alvin gogineni wrote: ============= Check out Eric and James' cars....stunning SprisoMotosports creations http://blog.cardomain.com/2009/10/06/suntory-times-classic-car-show-with-a-j a panese-twist/ http://speedhunters.com/archive/2009/10/07/event-gt-gt-jccs-09-pt-3.aspx Check out the lead photo on the Road & Track article! http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=33&article_id=8449 Also a little coverage from the informal Cars & Coffee Meet at dawn: http://cncpics.com/v/0910/091003_001/ enjoy, and good job Michael and Eric!Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 8 23:12:58 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Gordon Glasgow" , , Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:45:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Differential plug / drive shaft If one disconnects the 2000 driveshaft at the transmission flange, and leave it on the car, you won't mess up the phase relationship. (I pulled the engine/trans on my '67-1/2 2000 this spring, and left the drive shaft in place. Yes, getting at the four bolts which hold the driveshaft to the trnas flange was difficult, and it took help from underneath to hold things together while I reconnected them. I didn't want to gum up the portion of the front yoke which slips into the main part of the driveshaft when I pulled things.) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: ; Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Differential plug / drive shaft > On a 1600, it shouldn't be necessary to mark the driveshaft because both > u-joints come out with the driveshaft, thus they can't get out of phase. > On > the 2000 it's a different matter, since the front u-joint is attached to > the > yoke on the back of the trans and the slip-joint is what comes apart. > > Gordon Glasgow > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > hallosb@juno.com > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:13 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Differential plug / drive shaft > > This weekend, I'll be pulling the driveshaft in preparation for pulling > the > motor/tranny. Before I start, I have two questions. > > 1. Is it necessary to mark the position of the driveshaft in relation to > the > differential and/or transmission? I've removed driveshafts many times. > Sometimes I remember to mark them. Sometimes I don't. I've always > wondered > if > it really matters. I don't think it does but, I'm interested in other > opinions. > > 2. My differential drain plug leaks. I've never had this problem on any of > my > other cars. I believe the drain plug has pipe thread so, it should seal > itself. When I'm working on cars, I've never been a big fan of adding > sealant > or teflon tape on threaded connections. It seems to me you're just > running > the risk of getting goop or tape in the internals. Am I worrying too much? > If > you did use sealant on the threads, what would you use? > > TIA, > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Medical Billing & Coding > Earn your medical billing and coding degree, 100% online! Enroll now. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/c?cp=8Xciu7BzFWpzFS6NEtMTzQAAJz3b-7 > K > uMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAQAAAAFAAAAAIlFDEAAAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANiUQAAAAA= > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 10:22:09 2009 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'Gary McCormick'" , "'Tim'" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:54:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal Exploding seat release latches sound like the way to go. Like those used in jet fighters or between rocket stages. Walter Peterson Santa Barbara Ca, 93109 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:12 AM To: 'Tim'; 'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'; Gordon Glasgow Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal What fastener would the proposed push pins be replacing? If it's the bolts securing the seat to the slide or the slide rails to the floor, this wouldn't be a good idea (I'm going from a look at the Parts Book microfiche - I haven't looked at the seat installation in my car). Ball-lock pins are designed to be loaded in shear, but they don't secure components axially like a cinched-down bolt and nut, and the lateral movement that would result from the necessary assembly clearance would be undesirable in a seat installation. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA b70 2000, SRL311-13291 --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Gordon Glasgow wrote: From: Gordon Glasgow Subject: Re: [Roadsters] easy seat removal To: "'Tim'" , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 9:26 AM I missed that comment, but it might have been referring to using something like hood pins. This, however, would definitely NOT be a good idea in real life, since those pins aren't designed to take any real load, as might be experienced in an accident. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:47 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] easy seat removal Earlier this year someone said something to the effect: If I had known how many times I would be removing the seats, I would have installed push pins (<---???) for easy seat removal. Does any one remember this, or remember saying this? What was being referred to? Thanks Looking to speed up and make easier the removal of the seats in my 2000. Tim Dairyland Datsuns Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 10:53:55 2009 From: David Boerst To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Weber Conversion First thanks to all that responded to the electronic distributor swap. Now I am looking for a Weber swap. Is there a after market setup that works well? Anyone have one for sale? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 11:53:07 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] RL411 on LA C-List, $775 Saw this today, might be of interest to someone. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/1412737895.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 12:08:09 2009 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:43:03 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] throttle body backfire -- enough to take my fingers off? All, Still trying to start my car. And, for reasons to numerous to explain(history of jamming), I've been tempted to lift my SU's by hand while I'm trying to start the car. The only risk is that the car has been backfiring through the throttle body. Not often, but enough to make me concerned that if I stick my hands in there during a start that I'll lose a finger in the bargain. Any thoughts? What care should I take in handling a throttle body backfire -- are these strong enough to turn tools into weapons? Take a finger off? . . . Nathaniel '69 SU, Status: don't ask. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 12:42:33 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: David Boerst Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:09:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weber Conversion > First thanks to all that responded to the electronic distributor swap. Now > I am looking for a Weber swap. Is there a after market setup that works > well? Anyone have one for sale? > ________________________________________ > David, Is this for a 1600 or 2K, I don't remember. If for a 2K you might check the "For Sale" forum on 311s.org, and look for a Mikuni/Solex setup in good shape as an alternative to the Webers. The Mikuni setup is already set up (jetting, chokes, etc) for the U-20, and IIRC, Weber throttle shafts rotate the opposite direction than Mikunis. If you're running an R-16, I don't think there was ever "factory" dual two throat setup offered. Check with Pierce Manifolds, who should be able to get you the bits you need and offer advice on all of the fiddly bits (chokes, emulsion tubes, air and gas jet, idle jets, etc), which are numerous and expensive. Good luck, Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 12:53:00 2009 From: shotzi To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:31:08 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] RL411 eBay 411 car for parts Item number: 170390404117 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 13:23:07 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: RL411 Yeah, too bad it's 709 miles (one-way) away from me. Could be some good parts there. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "shotzi" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 11:31:08 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] RL411 eBay 411 car for parts Item number: 170390404117 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 13:24:57 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:05:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] RL411 Can someone please briefly explain to me the differences between the 1600 motor in this car and the 1600 Roadster motor? Please keep snyde comments, etc to yourself. I would really rather just know the engine differences, if any. Thank you. Tim ---- shotzi wrote: ============= eBay 411 car for parts Item number: 170390404117 You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 14:07:24 2009 From: Pete Peters To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] RL411 Basic engine is standard 5-main bearing, aluminum head R16. Key differences: - intake manifold angled up so SU's clear inner fender - slightly different water pump - different thermostat housing and radiator - different oil pan to clear 411 front cross-member. Might be a couple-three other minor items that I don't remember off-hand. I have one that I plan to use for a stroker rebuild. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 12:05:56 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] RL411 Can someone please briefly explain to me the differences between the 1600 motor in this car and the 1600 Roadster motor? Please keep snyde comments, etc to yourself. I would really rather just know the engine differences, if any. Thank you. Tim ---- shotzi wrote: ============= eBay 411 car for parts Item number: 170390404117 You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 14:22:20 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "bluebirds" , Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:04:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Donna Mae Mims, a great lady http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/postgazette/obituary.aspx?n=donna-mae-mims &pid=134114269 I met Donna Mae at Nelson Ledges where she worked the starting grid whenever Steel Cities Region held a SCCA race. Even at 80, she was still active with racing. When I asked her she had never raced a Datsun, she told me that if Paul Neumann had offered her a ride, she would have! (Not sure if she meant racing or a late night ride!?) She autographed my Cannonball Run book, "Donna Mae, . or may not". I will miss seeing the Lady in Pink every time I'm back at Nelson Ledges. Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 15:23:24 2009 From: Mickey To: 9laser3@bright.net Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:53:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Donna Mae Mims, a great lady ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 16:37:24 2009 From: pjmill@sonic.net To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:14:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] RL411 Gosh! It doesn't look that bad. It could be a cool project car for somebody. > eBay 411 car for parts > Item number: 170390404117 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjmill@sonic.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 17:22:23 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: RL411 Map the location. Methinks it's gonna be a hard sell. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: pjmill@sonic.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 3:14:39 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] RL411 Gosh! It doesn't look that bad. It could be a cool project car for somebody. > eBay 411 car for parts > Item number: 170390404117 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjmill@sonic.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 18:06:36 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: nmleeds@mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:44:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] throttle body backfire -- enough to take my fingers I don't think anyone is going to seriously recommend that you do that. I'm not. I'd check out the carbs to find out why the backfire. good luck Linda -----Original Message----- From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Oct 9, 2009 10:43 am Subject: [Roadsters] throttle body backfire -- enough to take my fingers off? All, Still trying to start my car. And, for reasons to numerous to explain(history of jamming), I've been tempted to lift my SU's by hand while I'm trying to start the car. The only risk is that the car has been backfiring through the throttle body. Not often, but enough to make me concerned that if I stick my hands in there during a start that I'll lose a finger in the bargain. Any thoughts? What care should I take in handling a throttle body backfire -- are these strong enough to turn tools into weapons? Take a finger off? . . . Nathaniel '69 SU, Status: don't ask. You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 23:06:29 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: , Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:40:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] throttle body backfire -- enough to take my fingers Nathaniel, Do I understand that the pistons in your SUs have a history of jamming? If so, fix that problem. You should not have to lift the pistons while starting -- lifting the pistons only dilutes the mixture going into the manifold. The carbs need to be mechanically correct, pistons, needles, nozzles and float level before you can reasonably expect the car to start. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] throttle body backfire -- enough to take my fingers off? > All, > > Still trying to start my car. And, for reasons to numerous to > explain(history of jamming), I've been tempted to lift my SU's by hand > while I'm trying to start the car. The only risk is that the car has been > backfiring through the throttle body. Not often, but enough to make me > concerned that if I stick my hands in there during a start that I'll lose > a finger in the bargain. > > Any thoughts? What care should I take in handling a throttle body > backfire -- are these strong enough to turn tools into weapons? Take a > finger off? . . . > > Nathaniel > '69 SU, Status: don't ask. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 9 23:35:51 2009 From: Gary McCormick To: nmleeds@mindspring.com Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:17:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] throttle body backfire -- enough to take my fingers The springs that hold the slides down are relatively light - after all, it's vacuum that lifts them against the spring force - so I wouldn't worry about that. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA nmleeds@mindspring.com wrote: > All, > > Still trying to start my car. And, for reasons to numerous to explain(history of jamming), I've been tempted to lift my SU's by hand while I'm trying to start the car. The only risk is that the car has been backfiring through the throttle body. Not often, but enough to make me concerned that if I stick my hands in there during a start that I'll lose a finger in the bargain. > > Any thoughts? What care should I take in handling a throttle body backfire -- are these strong enough to turn tools into weapons? Take a finger off? . . . > > Nathaniel > '69 SU, Status: don't ask. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gkmcc@sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 10 00:06:43 2009 From: "Walter Peterson" To: "'Ronnie Day'" , "'David Boerst'" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:01:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weber Conversion There was an R16 head style Factory dual side draft manifold & Solex set up, it just was not offered in the US and are fairly rare to find. I've got one and I've seen others. These manifolds were somehow imported to the US through the competition dept or other tradesmen. See mine in a 67 here: http://cid-2a590c41f68a7cf7.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/51R%20%5E0%20Stock%2 0Battery%20Tie%20Down/023.jpg I'm sure the 1600 would run best with a pair of 40mm, or severely choked down 44mm carbs. I've also seen a pair of 2000 SU's fitted to the 1600 SU manifold as a good option if you want more flow. Walter Peterson Santa Barbara Ca, 93109 Street driven race motor 2000 3-Main(R) Solexes,cam etc. 5-Speed & LSD. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronnie Day Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:09 AM To: David Boerst Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weber Conversion > First thanks to all that responded to the electronic distributor swap. Now > I am looking for a Weber swap. Is there a after market setup that works > well? Anyone have one for sale? > ________________________________________ > David, Is this for a 1600 or 2K, I don't remember. If for a 2K you might check the "For Sale" forum on 311s.org, and look for a Mikuni/Solex setup in good shape as an alternative to the Webers. The Mikuni setup is already set up (jetting, chokes, etc) for the U-20, and IIRC, Weber throttle shafts rotate the opposite direction than Mikunis. If you're running an R-16, I don't think there was ever "factory" dual two throat setup offered. Check with Pierce Manifolds, who should be able to get you the bits you need and offer advice on all of the fiddly bits (chokes, emulsion tubes, air and gas jet, idle jets, etc), which are numerous and expensive. Good luck, Ron You are subscribed as walter.peterson@cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 10 07:36:56 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: "'David Boerst'" , Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:23:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weber Conversion http://www.webercarburators.com/webercat.pdf http://www.jameng.com/prices/index.phtml#99003.830 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Boerst Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:28 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Weber Conversion First thanks to all that responded to the electronic distributor swap. Now I am looking for a Weber swap. Is there a after market setup that works well? Anyone have one for sale? You are subscribed as andycost@embarqmail.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 10 08:06:25 2009 From: Tom Walter To: road Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] throttle body backfire -- enough to take my fingers Nathan, The bottom of the SU pistons have a tiny nylon bump stop in them. Idea is for the piston not to sit flat on the floor of the throttle, but let enough air in...... to allow you to start the engine! :) So lifting the piston to start, and then everything running OK are those tiny bump stops. Oh, keep a pair of leather gloves in the car for this reason. I still see the digest, but never have time to read them until the weekend rolls around, but it is already time to head out to the shop to work on the airplane project. Tom ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 10 10:09:13 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:51:51 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Break-in oil & assembly There's been some threads on the assembly and break-in of "new" engines. I noticed an ad from Comp Cams in the latest issue of Chevy High Performance for a new break-in oil (*http://tinyurl.com/ygtkpxl*) they're now selling. Looks like a great product to me. They also offers assembly lube and spray. Knowing Comp's reputation this stuff is worth using, IMHO. -- Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 10 12:23:26 2009 From: Ross Mullen / Sports Imports To: Ronnie Day Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:58:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Weber Conversion I have a manifold for the R16 that accommodates twin side draft carbs $400. I have also some 40 mm webers, dellortos, and Mikunis. i also have U20 solex intake manifolds, solex 44 mm carbs(early and late) and even have for sale a solex early air cleaner. Ross sports imports On 9-Oct-09, at 11:09 AM, Ronnie Day wrote: >> First thanks to all that responded to the electronic distributor >> swap. Now >> I am looking for a Weber swap. Is there a after market setup that >> works >> well? Anyone have one for sale? >> ________________________________________ >> > David, > > Is this for a 1600 or 2K, I don't remember. If for a 2K you might > check the > "For Sale" forum on 311s.org, and look for a Mikuni/Solex setup in > good > shape as an alternative to the Webers. The Mikuni setup is already > set up > (jetting, chokes, etc) for the U-20, and IIRC, Weber throttle > shafts rotate > the opposite direction than Mikunis. > > If you're running an R-16, I don't think there was ever "factory" > dual two > throat setup offered. Check with Pierce Manifolds, who should be > able to get > you the bits you need and offer advice on all of the fiddly bits > (chokes, > emulsion tubes, air and gas jet, idle jets, etc), which are > numerous and > expensive. > > Good luck, > Ron > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as info@sportsimports.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 10 20:07:55 2009 From: "gregs672liter@netzero.net" To: ronnie.day@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:48:29 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Break-in oil & assembly There have been some concerns posted latey about using todays oil in our old Roadsters AFTER they have been broken in. The concern was they were missing the correct kind of additive package to provide proper wear care for our cars, and that you needed to get a specific oil additive. I asked my engine guru who is careful about debunking these kind of things. His response: "Bullshit. This was started by a Nascar team (Joe Gibbs) who had a cam go flat and decided it was the oil. What it probably was was excessive spring pressure. None of my customers, nor anyone else in the industry have reported any problems related to excessive wear due to todays oil. I think it is marketing BS to sell a product." I continue to run Mobile 1 without concern. Greg Burrows 67 2000 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Break-in oil & assembly Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:51:51 -0500 There's been some threads on the assembly and break-in of "new" engines. I noticed an ad from Comp Cams in the latest issue of Chevy High Performance for a new break-in oil (*http://tinyurl.com/ygtkpxl*) they're now selling. Looks like a great product to me. They also offers assembly lube and spray. Knowing Comp's reputation this stuff is worth using, IMHO. -- Ron ____________________________________________________________ Find Top-Rated A/C Pros Get up to 4 free A/C bids today. Free estimates & no obligation! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=3rYrb20wctwECp_VtiI14wAAJ1Hb -7KuMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAQAAAAFAAAAADeJwT0AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIYBwAAAAA= ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 11 07:39:17 2009 From: Mikep To: Datsun-Roadsters List List Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:25:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Break-in oil & assembly So if I'm reading this correctly NASCAR teams are using 40 year old Japanese four cylinder motors? Yee Haw!!! let's go racin'!..... tongue firmly in cheek Sorry, couldn't help it. I'll quit being a smart ass and go back to staring wistfully at my non running 40 year Japanese four cylinder. mike On Oct 10, 2009, at 6:48 PM, gregs672liter@netzero.net wrote: > There have been some concerns posted latey about using todays oil in > our old > Roadsters AFTER they have been broken in. The concern was they were > missing > the correct kind of additive package to provide proper wear care for > our cars, > and that you needed to get a specific oil additive. I asked my > engine guru > who is careful about debunking these kind of things. His response: > "Bullshit. This was started by a Nascar team (Joe Gibbs) who had a > cam go > flat and decided it was the oil. What it probably was was excessive > spring > pressure. None of my customers, nor anyone else in the industry > have reported > any problems related to excessive wear due to todays oil. I think > it is > marketing BS to sell a product." > I continue to run Mobile 1 without concern. > Greg Burrows > 67 2000 > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Ronnie Day > To: Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] Break-in oil & assembly > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:51:51 -0500 > > There's been some threads on the assembly and break-in of "new" > engines. I > noticed an ad from Comp Cams in the latest issue of Chevy High > Performance > for a new break-in oil (*http://tinyurl.com/ygtkpxl*) they're now > selling. > Looks like a great product to me. > They also offers assembly lube and spray. Knowing Comp's reputation > this > stuff is worth using, IMHO. > -- > Ron > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find Top-Rated A/C Pros > Get up to 4 free A/C bids today. Free estimates & no obligation! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=3rYrb20wctwECp_VtiI14wAAJ1Hb > -7KuMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAQAAAAFAAAAADeJwT0AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIYBwAAAAA > = > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikep@bikeswap.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 12 06:49:33 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: gregs672liter@netzero.net, ronnie.day@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:36:01 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Break-in oil & assembly Hello all, Just read an article on the oil thing. The problem is the Zinc and Phosphorus that will kill the catalytic converter if the engine starts to burn oil. A friend of mine and I just replaced the catalyst on his car for this reason. They found that flat tappet engines with very high valve spring rates can have problems. Stock or even a bit more engines just don't have a problem. As I recall the oils made for diesel engines, such as Rotella, still have these additives. For engines with roller cams and tappets it is totally a non issue. keith In a message dated 10/10/2009 7:08:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gregs672liter@netzero.net writes: There have been some concerns posted latey about using todays oil in our old Roadsters AFTER they have been broken in. The concern was they were missing the correct kind of additive package to provide proper wear care for our cars, and that you needed to get a specific oil additive. I asked my engine guru who is careful about debunking these kind of things. His response: "Bullshit. This was started by a Nascar team (Joe Gibbs) who had a cam go flat and decided it was the oil. What it probably was was excessive spring pressure. None of my customers, nor anyone else in the industry have reported any problems related to excessive wear due to todays oil. I think it is marketing BS to sell a product." I continue to run Mobile 1 without concern. Greg Burrows 67 2000 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Break-in oil & assembly Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:51:51 -0500 There's been some threads on the assembly and break-in of "new" engines. I noticed an ad from Comp Cams in the latest issue of Chevy High Performance for a new break-in oil (*http://tinyurl.com/ygtkpxl*) they're now selling. Looks like a great product to me. They also offers assembly lube and spray. Knowing Comp's reputation this stuff is worth using, IMHO. -- Ron ____________________________________________________________ Find Top-Rated A/C Pros Get up to 4 free A/C bids today. Free estimates & no obligation! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=3rYrb20wctwECp_ VtiI14wAAJ1Hb -7KuMPJffYsq3MtsBROGAAQAAAAFAAAAADeJwT0AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIYBwAAAAA= You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 12 07:05:17 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: aultgc@att.net, nmleeds@mindspring.com, Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:42:51 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] throttle body backfire -- enough to take my fingers Gary, You might loose the hair on your knuckles and get a scare but the flash of fire from a backfire shouldn't hurt you. Lifting the piston will lean that carb. Makes me think you might be trying to flood. keith williams In a message dated 10/9/2009 10:06:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aultgc@att.net writes: Nathaniel, Do I understand that the pistons in your SUs have a history of jamming? If so, fix that problem. You should not have to lift the pistons while starting -- lifting the pistons only dilutes the mixture going into the manifold. The carbs need to be mechanically correct, pistons, needles, nozzles and float level before you can reasonably expect the car to start. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: [Roadsters] throttle body backfire -- enough to take my fingers off? > All, > > Still trying to start my car. And, for reasons to numerous to > explain(history of jamming), I've been tempted to lift my SU's by hand > while I'm trying to start the car. The only risk is that the car has been > backfiring through the throttle body. Not often, but enough to make me > concerned that if I stick my hands in there during a start that I'll lose > a finger in the bargain. > > Any thoughts? What care should I take in handling a throttle body > backfire -- are these strong enough to turn tools into weapons? Take a > finger off? . . . > > Nathaniel > '69 SU, Status: don't ask. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 12 08:37:21 2009 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] AACA show Hershey,PA We just spent 4 days at the AACA show in Hershey PA, saw several thousand great cars, 26 miles of swap meet. A very nice fresh restore '69 ( no side makers) 2000 in the car corral, $15,000, gone Friday afternoon. The AACA museum has a display of "Foreign Invasion Cars" and there was a pristine 1966 Honda S600, dwarfed by the 240Z next to it. Some one from CA posted pictures of Jay Leno and his Honda awhile back, thanks, that sparked research on our part that really made seeing the S600 special. Met a CA roadster owner who bought her 2000 new in '69, car has been in storage for several years, just moved to CA in the San Francisco area, was surprised to see a roadster drive by. Wants to get her car back on the road but has questions. Any local roadster owners or club members that want to help can write to me off list and I will forward your letters. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney,NY, '68 2000 Spike - still missing ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 12 15:36:23 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:16:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Great roadster day Got 5 roadsters and 7 owners together yesterday at Indian Lake in Ohio. Turned out to be a cool, but sunny day; just right for a couple of laps around the lake. The day ended with a fantastic meal and a cool ride home. Can't wait to get together again, but I think it will be next spring. Hopefully a few more roadsters will join us! Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 12 21:09:42 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:33:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Co-Driver with cancer, second time As you probably know my father, Leisure Suit Terry, was my co-driver for 19 years. He was diagnosed with liver cancer and passed away in 2005. Last week my new co-driver of 3 years was also diagnosed with cancer. Dennis was having a bunch of pain and the doctors found that he needed his gall bladder out. While in there they found some bad spots on his liver and the biopsy revealed cancer. Dennis and I would both appreciate your prayers during this difficult time. Dennis is a contractor and only gets paid when he is at work. He has set up a bank account at Bank of America for donations to help him pay rent and stuff while he is out of work. If you would like to donate please e-mail me off list and I'll give you the account number. You then just stop by any Bank of America and deposit a few bucks to help a great guy. He is the one who takes all the photos at our events and posts them at www.autocrosspictur es.net Thanks, Andy Cost ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 13 05:08:57 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:44:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Indian Lake gathering photos Just in case somebody wants proof that we did have an OHIO gathering of roadsters, the link to the photos is below (Thanks Mark). Paul Ohio http://picasaweb.google.com/mantolik/OhioRoadstersIndianLake?feat=directlink ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 13 09:51:37 2009 From: "Brian St Jacques" To: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:29:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Holy Badass Electric Datsun! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=64e_1255328005 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 13 12:07:13 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Paul'" <9laser3@bright.net>, "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:40:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Indian Lake gathering photos Beautiful day, it looks like. And very nice cars. For those of us who have never been to Ohio, any chance of labeling who's who in the pictures? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:44 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] Indian Lake gathering photos Just in case somebody wants proof that we did have an OHIO gathering of roadsters, the link to the photos is below (Thanks Mark). Paul Ohio http://picasaweb.google.com/mantolik/OhioRoadstersIndianLake?feat=directlink Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 13 13:53:15 2009 From: Eddie Wu / SAKE RKT To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster Front Brake parts on Ebay Hello, I have a few brake items being auctioned off on ebay. Auctions end in a little over 24 hours. -brake calipers/pads -brake (hard) lines -stainless steel brake lines -brake rotos -brake drums http://motors.shop.ebay.com/automotive_electronics_junkie/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg= Local buyers can pick up items (Fremont/Sunnyvale, CA) to save on shipping. Thanks -Eddie ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 13 16:24:11 2009 From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:49:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] New to CA Roadster Owner I have a friend who has a 2000 who recently moved to the San Francisco area. She bought the car new in 1969 on the East coast and it has traveled a lot; it has been stored for the past 7 years. She would like to meet some of the local roadster owners but is shy about writing the list and posting her e-mail address. So I volunteered to write for her. If any roadster people in the San Francisco area would like to get another roadster and its owner back on the road, write to me off list and I will forward your letters. Thanks Gloria Klingman Sidney,NY ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 13 18:27:30 2009 From: "Mark Antolik" To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:38:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Indian Lake gathering photos I will be happy to post some captions! May take me a day or so to get to it...just wanted to get them out there as quick as possible! Mark -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:40 PM To: 'Paul'; 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Indian Lake gathering photos Beautiful day, it looks like. And very nice cars. For those of us who have never been to Ohio, any chance of labeling who's who in the pictures? Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:44 AM To: 'datsun-roadsters' Subject: [Roadsters] Indian Lake gathering photos Just in case somebody wants proof that we did have an OHIO gathering of roadsters, the link to the photos is below (Thanks Mark). Paul Ohio http://picasaweb.google.com/mantolik/OhioRoadstersIndianLake?feat=directlink Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as mantolik@oh.rr.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 13 23:22:49 2009 From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Free Datsun ZX I got a call this morning from a lady that I met at the Datsun show in Solvang, this past April. Her brother has a 1982, 280ZX, 60-80,000 miles, T-top, 5 speed, white with red leather interior. It has been stored outside for the past 15 years and has to be moved. It is free to a good home, but the owner requests it be restored, and not trashed. It is in Woodland Hills, CA and needs to be picked-up within a week or two. If anyone is interested, or knows of someone that might be, please email me off list for the owner's contact info. Thank you! Patti ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 15 05:56:50 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 7:25:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] part number? I am looking at this past ebay auction (300354504795) and trying to figure out the part number, etc in the part manual I have in my office at work--yes, I have a part manual and other Roadster books in my office. I do not see this part in Scott's book. Can someone tell me part number and what year cars this was for? Thanks Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 15 06:57:06 2009 From: Lars Tungen To: 'Tim' , "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:17:41 +0200 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] part number? Key# 24 from the online parts manual: http://datsun311.partsmanual.net/311Parts/Electrical/Heater/tabid/241/Defaul t.aspx Partnumber 27151-14600. Still listed with Nissan, but may be NLA. -- Lars Tungen Norway ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 15 18:17:29 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:43:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Are these any good? Any one have any experience...good or bad, with this fuel pump: 250180673439 ? Looks like a cheap back up to have just in case.... Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 17 22:44:04 2009 From: Fred Katz To: Brian St Jacques Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:41:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Holy Badass Electric Datsun! Wow! Not bad for a 72 Sunny 1200! 110mph in 11.8 seconds 1/4mile. My wife bought a 73 1200 brand new, sold it to a friend in the mid-1990s. It just wouldn't die. But it was a gutless wonder. 69hp lawn-mower engine. Never thought of swapping to an electric engine. Probably going to see more of this type of swap going on. Fred - So.SF, CA On Oct 13, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Brian St Jacques wrote: > http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=64e_1255328005 > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 18 09:59:04 2009 From: Ron Hamilton To: Datsun Forum Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:47:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] U20/2 Liter heads for sale Looking through my roadster parts prior to listing them on ebay; Local sales preferred in the Phoenix area of course. I have (qty) 4 u20 heads in various conditions that I will sell prior to putting them on e-bay. All are used. 3 are ate model and 1 ,67 1/2 head Please contact me off list for further info and any questions. Ron Hamilton ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 18 14:16:44 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:03:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] won't stay running 70 1600 with new needle valves, empty floats and good level of gas in the float chambers. Car had been running great all summer except in the 105 degress we experienced last June and even then was still ok. Car has always been difficult to start when cold (air or engine), today was especially difficult at approx 45 degrees. Once car is warm it will idle ok but when trying to drive it starts to sputter and won't stay running. I have carbs coming but wanted to take her out one more time this coming weekend for the Looong Race. Help. Thanks tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 07:06:12 2009 From: Keith0alan@aol.com To: tputland@charter.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:48:35 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] won't stay running Check your dash pot oil. If it is missing or too thin it will stumble on acceleration. It might also be a bit lean. Check the spark plugs. If they are light colored try turning the mixture knobs a little richer. keith williams In a message dated 10/18/2009 1:16:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tputland@charter.net writes: 70 1600 with new needle valves, empty floats and good level of gas in the float chambers. Car had been running great all summer except in the 105 degress we experienced last June and even then was still ok. Car has always been difficult to start when cold (air or engine), today was especially difficult at approx 45 degrees. Once car is warm it will idle ok but when trying to drive it starts to sputter and won't stay running. I have carbs coming but wanted to take her out one more time this coming weekend for the Looong Race. Help. Thanks tim You are subscribed as keith0alan@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 14:34:25 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:12:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Backroads tour write-up, SoCal TT, Oct 11-12 '09 Hooked up with a local group for a 2-day, 650 mile backroads tour from Los Angeles to Los Alamos (~20 miles north of Solvang) this past Sunday/Monday. Great folks, great roads, great eats. Roadster ran like a champ (she got new "shoes" for this year), slight drizzle on Monday when coming back thru the mountains north of LA, but dry all the way home (then poured the next day!). It got a might chilly at times, as I did the entire run top-down, but better to enjoy the sights and smells. Great group of eclectic, pre-'76 cars. I was the only roadster, although 302-roadster Eric was along in his classic Mini. A rotary spridget, a slant 6 Valiant, a couple Volvo 122's, three 510's (a rotary, an SR-20NA, and SR20DET!) a Maserati Bora (!!), an early Toyota coupe with an 1800/5-spd combo, a bugeye whose oil-line left it erupting in a cloud of smoke after 5 blocks, a sweet Rambler with green paisley headliner and dash treatment, a gorgeous Alfa coupe, a 2002 with a straight 6, a 58 Jag Type 1- sounded like Benny Goodman trombones coming out of tight corners, a Mercedes pagoda with a Buick V-6, and more) I drove most of the way as a wingman with a TR-8 (great sound, much like the 302 in Eric's car) and a later model MGB that had a single 45-Weber, both better drivers continually drove away from me in the twisties. (if only all the parts I have bought for the front end were on the car instead of languishing in the toolbox drawers) But, I have learned this is a good thing, (letting folks distance you) sometimes.... Some pic links will show in the coming weeks. http://www.socaltt.com/ but I think these ones are current http://socaltt510.shutterfly.com/ Because of roadside delays (let everyone drive out from the motel, then had the TR-8 not start, had to rewire the fuel pump circuit for some unknown reason), I don't appear in anyone's on-road pictures, but the gearhead talk was wonderful, and the roads around the wineries in that part of CA are incredible. (even if I was running out of gas and wondering if I'd be hoofing it soon) Now she goes up on blocks for front end rebuild, with a self-imposed deadline of one month to completion. Happy fall roadstering, Fergus O (getting over the sore cheeks from grinning for 2 days straight) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 17:06:12 2009 From: pjmill@sonic.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:39:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Backroads tour write-up, SoCal TT, Oct 11-12 '09 Totally COOL! Thanks for sharing! Maybe next year there will be at least TWO Roadster in it! Paul > Hooked up with a local group for a 2-day, 650 mile backroads tour from > Los Angeles to Los Alamos (~20 miles north of Solvang) this past > Sunday/Monday. > Great folks, great roads, great eats. Roadster ran like a champ (she > got new "shoes" for this year), slight drizzle on Monday when coming > back thru the mountains north of LA, but dry all the way home (then > poured the next day!). It got a might chilly at times, as I did the > entire run top-down, but better to enjoy the sights and smells. > > Great group of eclectic, pre-'76 cars. I was the only roadster, although > 302-roadster Eric was along in his classic Mini. > A rotary spridget, a slant 6 Valiant, a couple Volvo 122's, three 510's > (a rotary, an SR-20NA, and SR20DET!) a Maserati Bora (!!), an early > Toyota coupe with an 1800/5-spd combo, a bugeye whose oil-line left it > erupting in a cloud of smoke after 5 blocks, a sweet Rambler with green > paisley headliner and dash treatment, a gorgeous Alfa coupe, a 2002 with > a straight 6, a 58 Jag Type 1- sounded like Benny Goodman trombones > coming out of tight corners, a Mercedes pagoda with a Buick V-6, and > more) > > I drove most of the way as a wingman with a TR-8 (great sound, much like > the 302 in Eric's car) and a later model MGB that had a single 45-Weber, > both better drivers continually drove away from me in the twisties. > (if only all the parts I have bought for the front end were on the car > instead of languishing in the toolbox drawers) > But, I have learned this is a good thing, (letting folks distance you) > sometimes.... > > Some pic links will show in the coming weeks. > http://www.socaltt.com/ > > but I think these ones are current > http://socaltt510.shutterfly.com/ > > Because of roadside delays (let everyone drive out from the motel, then > had the TR-8 not start, had to rewire the fuel pump circuit for some > unknown reason), I don't appear in anyone's on-road pictures, but the > gearhead talk was wonderful, and the roads around the wineries in that > part of CA are incredible. (even if I was running out of gas and > wondering if I'd be hoofing it soon) > > Now she goes up on blocks for front end rebuild, with a self-imposed > deadline of one month to completion. > > Happy fall roadstering, > > Fergus O (getting over the sore cheeks from grinning for 2 days > straight) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjmill@sonic.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 20 06:06:08 2009 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:41:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Dash pad cover question Group, The plastic dash cover on my 70 1600 restoration project has cracked so I purchased a new one. In the process of removing the old cover from the dash the old glue pulled some of the original covering and foam away from the dash. Has anyone experienced this problem? I'd like to fill in the missing foam with something that will remain flexible but smooth out the dash in preparation for the new adhesive. I plan on using a 3-M adhesive to secure the new cover. Thanks Steve Harvey ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 20 06:35:23 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 5:19:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Dash pad cover question How about that expandable insulation foam? Fill the void, cut it to "fit" the contour of the dash and install the cover? That stuff has some give once dry. Tim ---- Steve Harvey wrote: ============= Group, The plastic dash cover on my 70 1600 restoration project has cracked so I purchased a new one. In the process of removing the old cover from the dash the old glue pulled some of the original covering and foam away from the dash. Has anyone experienced this problem? I'd like to fill in the missing foam with something that will remain flexible but smooth out the dash in preparation for the new adhesive. I plan on using a 3-M adhesive to secure the new cover. Thanks Steve Harvey You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 20 11:38:36 2009 From: ljordan704@netscape.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:18:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Backroads tour write-up, SoCal TT, Oct 11-12 '09 Glad to see you got the electrical problems fixed, Fergus. A rebuilt front end will really let you have fun on the next run. Don't forget the ball joints! LOL Linda -----Original Message----- From: O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS) To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:12 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Backroads tour write-up, SoCal TT, Oct 11-12 '09 Hooked up with a local group for a 2-day, 650 mile backroads tour from Los Angeles to Los Alamos (~20 miles north of Solvang) this past Sunday/Monday. Great folks, great roads, great eats. Roadster ran like a champ (she got new "shoes" for this year), slight drizzle on Monday when coming back thru the mountains north of LA, but dry all the way home (then poured the next day!). It got a might chilly at times, as I did the entire run top-down, but better to enjoy the sights and smells. Great group of eclectic, pre-'76 cars. I was the only roadster, although 302-roadster Eric was along in his classic Mini. A rotary spridget, a slant 6 Valiant, a couple Volvo 122's, three 510's (a rotary, an SR-20NA, and SR20DET!) a Maserati Bora (!!), an early Toyota coupe with an 1800/5-spd combo, a bugeye whose oil-line left it erupting in a cloud of smoke after 5 blocks, a sweet Rambler with green paisley headliner and dash treatment, a gorgeous Alfa coupe, a 2002 with a straight 6, a 58 Jag Type 1- sounded like Benny Goodman trombones coming out of tight corners, a Mercedes pagoda with a Buick V-6, and more) I drove most of the way as a wingman with a TR-8 (great sound, much like the 302 in Eric's car) and a later model MGB that had a single 45-Weber, both better drivers continually drove away from me in the twisties. (if only all the parts I have bought for the front end were on the car instead of languishing in the toolbox drawers) But, I have learned this is a good thing, (letting folks distance you) sometimes.... Some pic links will show in the coming weeks. http://www.socaltt.com/ but I think these ones are current http://socaltt510.shutterfly.com/ Because of roadside delays (let everyone drive out from the motel, then had the TR-8 not start, had to rewire the fuel pump circuit for some unknown reason), I don't appear in anyone's on-road pictures, but the gearhead talk was wonderful, and the roads around the wineries in that part of CA are incredible. (even if I was running out of gas and wondering if I'd be hoofing it soon) Now she goes up on blocks for front end rebuild, with a self-imposed deadline of one month to completion. Happy fall roadstering, Fergus O (getting over the sore cheeks from grinning for 2 days straight) You are subscribed as ljordan704@netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 20 15:22:17 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Datsun Mailing List Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:00:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1969 2000 for sale Just saw this in the Spokane, WA Wheel Deals. Black on black. Panasports? Says "very clean". Looks very nice. $11,200.00. 509-879-0389. That's all I know. This is the link to the ad: www.wheeldeals.com/results.aspx?key=datsun If that doesn't work just search wheeldeals.com. -Greg SRL31100494 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 23 13:22:13 2009 From: toolmansj2@comcast.net To: Roadster list Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] help with bre stripes I want to put the 2 bre racing stripes across the hood is there any specs for these? How wide are the stripes supposed to be and how far apart any good pics would help too! I want to represent the roadster community correctly, any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Shaun ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 23 14:06:28 2009 From: Alvin Gogineni To: toolmansj2@comcast.net Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:55:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] help with bre stripes Shaun, here are some pics: http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2262336010091305389wphnnp http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2044892870103129582pwuPqz http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2242902170103129582KEipts http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2883125190103129582nRxspJ http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2479198050103129582HIsSAN http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2486762150103129582czoLKX THere are some historic photos on the web as well On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:18 PM, toolmansj2@comcast.net wrote: > I want to put the 2 bre racing stripes across the hood is there any > specs for these? How wide are the stripes supposed to be and how far > apart any good pics would help too! I want to represent the roadster > community correctly, any advice would be appreciated. > > Thanks Shaun > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin@gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 23 14:50:49 2009 From: mcinns@att.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:45:37 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] enging lifting points I have a 69 2000 that I bought a '98 240 SX engine for 6 years ago. I want to install that engine now, and looking at the engine in it's shipping cradle, I don't see obvious lifting points. Any of you who have made this swap, please comment. Mark 1-520-818-1401 Tucson ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 23 18:05:54 2009 From: shifty@shiftco.com To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:59:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] help with bre stripes BRE has the info available through their "tribute" program. http://www.bre2.net/index.php?section=117 > Shaun, here are some pics: > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2262336010091305389wphnnp > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2044892870103129582pwuPqz > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2242902170103129582KEipts > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2883125190103129582nRxspJ > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2479198050103129582HIsSAN > > > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2486762150103129582czoLKX > > > THere are some historic photos on the web as well > > > On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:18 PM, toolmansj2@comcast.net wrote: > >> I want to put the 2 bre racing stripes across the hood is there any >> specs for these? How wide are the stripes supposed to be and how far >> apart any good pics would help too! I want to represent the roadster >> community correctly, any advice would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks Shaun >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as gogineni.alvin@gene.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as shifty@shiftco.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 24 09:20:06 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "bluebirds" , Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:10:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1980 210 SCCA race car FS http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/1408881060.html Not my car, but it has my finger prints under the hood. Craig has been racing it for several years now up at Nelson Ledges with good success. I'd hate to see this car leave Ohio, but it should go to a good home! Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 24 10:22:29 2009 From: Patti Dwinell To: All list Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Free 1982 ZX Good news! The adoption has been completed, and this orphan has a new home! Thank you to everyone who expressed interest in saving her. Patti ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 24 20:04:30 2009 From: "Andy Cost" To: Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:53:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup Anyone recognize this weird panhard bar? It is on an 88 mustang. The panhard bar is up high and there are two pivoting links at either end. The links are tied to a point near the bottom of the diff. The angle of the links is adjustable. I'm not sure what brand this is or even how it works. http://image68.webshots.com/468/4/7/1/2157407010065431685cSbZDr_fs.jpg http://image96.webshots.com/196/1/68/85/2610168850065431685LhrfEc_fs.jpg Thanks, Andy BTW - Bucephalus might be going bye-bye. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 24 20:23:01 2009 From: Pat Horne To: Andy Cost Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:22:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup Are there cross links running from the center of each of the shackles to the mount on the opposite side? If so, that would lock the shackles so they would not move, which would lock the suspension so it couldn't rise or fall. Looks pretty strange to me. If there is only one cross link, then the suspension can move up and down, but not stay centered. What type of car is this on? That is, is this a track car, drag, tuner, etc.? Peace, Pat Thusly spake Andy Cost, On 10/24/2009 8:53 PM: > Anyone recognize this weird panhard bar? It is on an 88 mustang. The > panhard bar is up high and there are two pivoting links at either end. The > links are tied to a point near the bottom of the diff. The angle of the > links is adjustable. I'm not sure what brand this is or even how it works. > > > http://image68.webshots.com/468/4/7/1/2157407010065431685cSbZDr_fs.jpg > > > http://image96.webshots.com/196/1/68/85/2610168850065431685LhrfEc_fs.jpg > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andy > > BTW - Bucephalus might be going bye-bye. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 24 20:49:20 2009 From: datsundoc@aol.com To: andycost@embarqmail.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:41:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup Looks like it's designed to keep the bar level with travel. This is similar to a Watts link. A regular panhard bar will induce bump steer as the suspension travels. That's why you want it level at rest and as long as possible. The lower links on this set up can be used to level the bar and links if you change ride height. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Cost To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2009 9:53 pm Subject: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup Anyone recognize this weird panhard bar? It is on an 88 mustang. The panhard bar is up high and there are two pivoting links at either end. The links are tied to a point near the bottom of the diff. The angle of the links is adjustable. I'm not sure what brand this is or even how it works. http://image68.webshots.com/468/4/7/1/2157407010065431685cSbZDr_fs.jpg http://image96.webshots.com/196/1/68/85/2610168850065431685LhrfEc_fs.jpg Thanks, Andy BTW - Bucephalus might be going bye-bye. You are subscribed as datsundoc@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 00:35:24 2009 From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "'Andy Cost'" , Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:34:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup Just keep in mind that not everything you see on a home-built race car makes sense or works. Gordon Glasgow -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Cost Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:54 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup Anyone recognize this weird panhard bar? It is on an 88 mustang. The panhard bar is up high and there are two pivoting links at either end. The links are tied to a point near the bottom of the diff. The angle of the links is adjustable. I'm not sure what brand this is or even how it works. http://image68.webshots.com/468/4/7/1/2157407010065431685cSbZDr_fs.jpg http://image96.webshots.com/196/1/68/85/2610168850065431685LhrfEc_fs.jpg Thanks, Andy BTW - Bucephalus might be going bye-bye. Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 11:35:46 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:28:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] idle & timing On my desmogged 70 1600 running EI dizzy, I can't get my idle below 1200 in order to set my timing. The service screw is all the way out. What else can I do? Tim ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 14:49:35 2009 From: Tim To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:48:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] idle & timing I'v got the control screws closed about as far as I can and still keep the car running... ---- Tim wrote: ============= On my desmogged 70 1600 running EI dizzy, I can't get my idle below 1200 in order to set my timing. The service screw is all the way out. What else can I do? Tim You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 16:53:26 2009 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:53:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] The Lonnnng Run For us Mid-America folks it was a hoot to see vintage racers and yellow leafs this past weekend. We will now proceed to place our beloved roadster's away for the winter and dream of spring. Good friends, good food, good beer was had by all! Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 17:07:16 2009 From: Bill Oakes To: Steve Harvey Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:06:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The Lonnnng Run Steve, it was great fun seeing the roadsters parked there coming around in turn 6, a very nice Datsun turn out on, and off the track. I tucked the Z and trailer away for the winter after the race, now to spend some quality time with roadster in the garage and get that beast on the road someday! Bill On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Steve Harvey wrote: > For us Mid-America folks it was a hoot to see vintage racers and yellow > leafs this past weekend. We will now proceed to place our beloved roadster's > away for the winter and dream of spring. Good friends, good food, good beer > was had by all! > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as boakes@gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 19:03:42 2009 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:03:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Detailing Engine Compartment et al. Generally tidying up the engine compartment and notice that quite a few of the 'bendable' clips (the ones spotwelded to the body/frame) are missing the rubber coverings. I have shrink tubing, but unfortunately it is logically open ended and doesn't look quite right. Anyone have suggestions - ideally shrink tubing with a closed end, or some sort of rubber bootie. Peter (Eliza) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 19:23:30 2009 From: "E Scanlon" To: "peter harrison" , "datsun" Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:22:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Detailing Engine Compartment et al. PLASTI-DIP or Liquid Electrical Tape. HTH Enrique > Generally tidying up the engine compartment and notice that quite a few of > the > 'bendable' clips (the ones spotwelded to the body/frame) are missing the > rubber coverings. I have shrink tubing, but unfortunately it is logically > open > ended and doesn't look quite right. > > > Anyone have suggestions - ideally shrink tubing with a closed end, or some > sort of rubber bootie. > > Peter (Eliza) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 21:22:59 2009 From: Bspark47@aol.com To: escanlon@wa-net.com, granvillecomputing@hotmail.com, Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:21:48 EDT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Detailing Engine Compartment et al. Or if you prefer the convenience of shrink tubing but want a closed end, just pinch the ends with a pair of pliers (the needlenose variety works well) while the tubing is still warm and pliable. Makes a nice, neat end with minimal effort. A little experimentation will tell you how long to leave the tubing. Just a thought Bill 70s In a message dated 10/25/2009 7:23:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, escanlon@wa-net.com writes: PLASTI-DIP or Liquid Electrical Tape. HTH Enrique > Generally tidying up the engine compartment and notice that quite a few of > the > 'bendable' clips (the ones spotwelded to the body/frame) are missing the > rubber coverings. I have shrink tubing, but unfortunately it is logically > open > ended and doesn't look quite right. > > > Anyone have suggestions - ideally shrink tubing with a closed end, or some > sort of rubber bootie. > > Peter (Eliza) You are subscribed as bspark47@aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 21:50:43 2009 From: philip erickson To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Panhard rod I can't open those pictures... Sounds like part of a jacob's ladder. Phil ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 26 06:50:05 2009 From: Pat Horne To: Tim Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:48:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] idle & timing Try spraying carb cleaner around on the intake manifold gaskets and carb throttle shafts. If you have an air leak it should increase the engine speed. (Try just spraying a bit of cleaner into a carb inlet to see if it causes the increase, some carb cleaner doesn't burn that well.) Peace, Pat Thusly spake Tim, On 10/25/2009 1:28 PM: > On my desmogged 70 1600 running EI dizzy, I can't get my idle below 1200 in order to set my timing. The service screw is all the way out. > > What else can I do? > > Tim > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pat@hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 26 20:48:28 2009 From: "Bubba" To: "Andy Cost" , Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:47:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup Hard to say, but looks like a Watts link with the bell crank mounted above the axle to the chassis. Some are mounted to the axle. Either stops the side to side, but the one on with the crank on the top causes more change to the roll center on accel/decel. Don't quote me though, I haven't needed to think about this kind of stuff since I was a Crew-chief on dirt Modified since 1996! The old brain just doesn't let me retrieve the old stuff like it used to. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Cost" To: Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:53 PM Subject: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup > Anyone recognize this weird panhard bar? It is on an 88 mustang. The > panhard bar is up high and there are two pivoting links at either end. > The > links are tied to a point near the bottom of the diff. The angle of the > links is adjustable. I'm not sure what brand this is or even how it > works. > > > http://image68.webshots.com/468/4/7/1/2157407010065431685cSbZDr_fs.jpg > > > http://image96.webshots.com/196/1/68/85/2610168850065431685LhrfEc_fs.jpg > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andy > > BTW - Bucephalus might be going bye-bye. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 26 20:52:12 2009 From: "Bubba" To: "peter harrison" , "datsun" Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:51:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Detailing Engine Compartment et al. Try that liquid electrical tape that you paint on. http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Liquid_Tape_-_Electrical_Insulation Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:03 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Detailing Engine Compartment et al. > Generally tidying up the engine compartment and notice that quite a few of > the > 'bendable' clips (the ones spotwelded to the body/frame) are missing the > rubber coverings. I have shrink tubing, but unfortunately it is logically > open > ended and doesn't look quite right. > > > > Anyone have suggestions - ideally shrink tubing with a closed end, or some > sort of rubber bootie. > > > > Peter (Eliza) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 26 21:03:15 2009 From: "Bubba" To: , "Roadster list" Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:01:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] help with bre stripes Pete Brock's site can help, but if you're doing a full clone, he wants a cut. http://www.bre2.net/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=B&Category_Code=decals Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Roadster list" Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: [Roadsters] help with bre stripes >I want to put the 2 bre racing stripes across the hood is there any specs >for these? How wide are the stripes supposed to be and how far apart any >good pics would help too! I want to represent the roadster community >correctly, any advice would be appreciated. > > Thanks Shaun > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 14:10:28 2009 From: Embarq Customer To: datsun-roadsters Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup Here is the info on the strange panhard setup thanks to the original owner who was located on the CP list. http://50mustangsuperfords.automotive.com/42513/15419-contex-ultra-sport-susp ension-system/index.html Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve newby" To: "Andy Cost" Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:32:32 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup looks more like an odd cross between a watts link and a J Bar or pan hard, the pivots moveB like a watts. I do know that roll center is drastically affected by the pivot length an swing length of a JBar. Shorter bars exacerbate this effect, it appears that the builder was trying to solve a space issue by artificially lengthening the jbar (the pivot on the drivers side would have the effect of about doubling the length of the bar), the bulk of the rest of it appears to be mostly bracing and support. but that would be a bitch to tune as the variables would be WAY more complex and you don't have the easy way of just moving the mounting points up and down. unless the pass side ALSO pivots, in which case I'm not sure HOW it would work as the center seems to be fixed. moving the center holes would partially have the same effect of moving the bar mounting points, but it would not be linear. on a car like the roadster the straight jbar is the better choice, its simple and you have lots of room to work with, plus you have minimal vertical chassis movement which make a jbar easier to balance. Also that looks like it weighs a TON!! If your considering a panhard keeping it a close to level from side to side as possible and having minimal vertical movement is best. roll center can be tuned to a small degree by building multiple holes or a threaded pertch that allows you to tune it (ala NASCAR) --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Andy Cost wrote: From: Andy Cost Subject: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:53 PM Anyone recognize this weird panhard bar?B It is on an 88 mustang.B The panhard bar is up high and there are two pivoting links at either end.B The links are tied to a point near the bottom of the diff.B The angle of the links is adjustable.B I'm not sure what brand this is or even how it works. http://image68.webshots.com/468/4/7/1/2157407010065431685cSbZDr_fs.jpg http://image96.webshots.com/196/1/68/85/2610168850065431685LhrfEc_fs.jpg Thanks, Andy BTW - Bucephalus might be going bye-bye. 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(five stars!!!) Wish there was less of the announcers & fans, but, fan of drifting or not, this 50 seconds of video is DAMN impressive: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/26/video-best-drift-ever-reverse-entry-slide -has-jdm-judges-all-a/#continued Pete ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 09:51:14 2009 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:47:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question Group, I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very dull. Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that are on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of my project car. Any input is appreciated. Steve Milwaukee ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 09:56:52 2009 From: Tim To: Steve Harvey , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 9:56:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question $250 seems pretty good to me. I got a quote from a guy in Madison for a 1600 grille, $500 to $600 with no garuantee it would be that "low". Granted, I did have a 1600 grille..... Then I won Gary Tew's re-chromed grille on ebay for, I think, less than $225. And it's beautiful! Tim ---- Steve Harvey wrote: ============= Group, I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very dull. Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that are on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of my project car. Any input is appreciated. Steve Milwaukee You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 10:13:40 2009 From: "MH" To: "Steve Harvey" , Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:10:20 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question My opinions only, I welcome others to disagree: For $250, if it comes out basically perfect, that seems like a good deal, comparing the going prices for near perfect or NOS as seen on Ebay. Also, find out what kind of chroming process they use. The place I use here in KC does the "show" chrome process involving triple plating, copper, nickel and then chrome. Top of the line stuff, ...I'll be looking forward to a quote to get my 1600 grill with one dent, restored. My "other" opinion is that: .....it's a highly visible and high "bling" factor of the car's outward appearance to any casual observer, moving or parked,....meaning it's better to have a ragged, torn interior, and shiny wheels and chrome than new seat covers, and crappy exterior.....like I said, it's just my opinion. I've owned cars with each of these scenarios,........in our society, it's the superficial taste that rules the day, LOL! Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > Group, > > > > I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in > Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the > grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very dull. > Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that are > on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of my > project car. Any input is appreciated. > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 10:26:22 2009 From: Ron Hamilton To: MH Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:25:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question Given the EPA regulation of the plating industry, you now have 2 options, USA and high prices or south of the border and take your chances. The platers (and yes I know they use toxic material) are now responsible for recycling all the waste, including liquids with NO disposal allowed unless it is safe . Here in AZ plating has gone through the roof in cost from a commercial point of view. Then there is the cost of anodes of plating material ( went sky high too) and electricity etc. You think chrome is expensive, try mil spec plating!!! MH wrote: > My opinions only, I welcome others to disagree: > For $250, if it comes out basically perfect, that seems like a good deal, > comparing the going prices for near perfect or NOS as seen on Ebay. Also, > find out what kind of chroming process they use. The place I use here in KC > does the "show" chrome process involving triple plating, copper, nickel and > then chrome. Top of the line stuff, ...I'll be looking forward to a quote to > get my 1600 grill with one dent, restored. > > My "other" opinion is that: .....it's a highly visible and high "bling" > factor of the car's outward appearance to any casual observer, moving or > parked,....meaning it's better to have a ragged, torn interior, and shiny > wheels and chrome than new seat covers, and crappy exterior.....like I said, > it's just my opinion. I've owned cars with each of these > scenarios,........in our society, it's the superficial taste that rules the > day, LOL! > Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 10:29:23 2009 From: Dan Kroninger To: Datsun Mailing List Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:29:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question I can vouch for that, it is one BEAUTIFUL piece. I might have to "borrow" that one day when he is not looking. LOL! > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:56:27 -0700 > From: tputland@charter.net > To: stebharvey@ameritech.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > > $250 seems pretty good to me. I got a quote from a guy in Madison for a 1600 grille, $500 to $600 with no garuantee it would be that "low". Granted, I did have a 1600 grille..... > > Then I won Gary Tew's re-chromed grille on ebay for, I think, less than $225. And it's beautiful! > > Tim > > > ---- Steve Harvey wrote: > > ============= > Group, > > > > I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in > Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the > grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very dull. > Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that are > on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of my > project car. Any input is appreciated. > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 10:29:34 2009 From: nmleeds@mindspring.com To: Steve Harvey , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question I hate to be this guy. But you might want to consider the enviromental impact of chroming. Unlike paint, which has gotten better and can be handled in enviromentally responsible ways, chrome is just, plain, nasty. This is something I've been thinking about ever since a guy at my local paint shop said he ships his stuff to Mexico because it has become almost impossible to find a licensed chrome shop in California. Of course, this cuts both ways. Chrome is so nasty that in five years (hell, if buddy in the White House wakes up, then even less) it might not be possible to chrome at all. So, as the expression goes, pollute while the iron is hot. I'll leave it to you (and the hecklers on the list) to decide how to weigh enviromental concerns against Datsun concerns, but I thought I'd mention it as a factor to consider. -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Harvey >Sent: Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > >Group, > > > >I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in >Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the >grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very dull. >Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that are >on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of my >project car. Any input is appreciated. > > > >Steve > >Milwaukee >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as nmleeds@mindspring.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 10:40:02 2009 From: Tim To: Datsun Mailing List , Dan Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:32:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, lol I just locked it in the attic! ha Tim ---- Dan Kroninger wrote: ============= I can vouch for that, it is one BEAUTIFUL piece. I might have to "borrow" that one day when he is not looking. LOL! > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:56:27 -0700 > From: tputland@charter.net > To: stebharvey@ameritech.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > > $250 seems pretty good to me. I got a quote from a guy in Madison for a 1600 grille, $500 to $600 with no garuantee it would be that "low". Granted, I did have a 1600 grille..... > > Then I won Gary Tew's re-chromed grille on ebay for, I think, less than $225. And it's beautiful! > > Tim > > > ---- Steve Harvey wrote: > > ============= > Group, > > > > I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in > Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the > grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very dull. > Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that are > on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of my > project car. Any input is appreciated. > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009 You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 16:16:38 2009 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:15:41 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question Thanks to all who provided input. I had my 2000 valve cover done several years ago for around the same price and that was a much more labor intense process for the chromer because it's aluminum and it needed a great amount of prep work. I understand the Hugh price increase thanks to the epa so I guess I'll go with the re-chroming this winter. I'm sure I'll be happy with the results, especially if it helps me get a trophy or two! Thanks again. Steve -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question Group, I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very dull. Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that are on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of my project car. Any input is appreciated. Steve Milwaukee You are subscribed as stebharvey@ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 16:29:47 2009 From: "Joe Kinstle" To: "'Steve Harvey'" , Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:22:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, Anybody have any experience with the Chrome colored powder coating? Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:16 PM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question Thanks to all who provided input. I had my 2000 valve cover done several years ago for around the same price and that was a much more labor intense process for the chromer because it's aluminum and it needed a great amount of prep work. I understand the Hugh price increase thanks to the epa so I guess I'll go with the re-chroming this winter. I'm sure I'll be happy with the results, especially if it helps me get a trophy or two! Thanks again. Steve -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:48 AM To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question Group, I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very dull. Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that are on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of my project car. Any input is appreciated. Steve Milwaukee You are subscribed as stebharvey@ameritech.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 18:29:28 2009 From: "Brian Hollands" To: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:20:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, Is there no Chinese Chrome???? My plan is to pollute their environment. I'm thinking that's our only chance... Brian '69 2000 Tampa, FL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 19:14:32 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, Probably cost more with the shipping. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hollands" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:20:42 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question Is there no Chinese Chrome???? My plan is to pollute their environment. I'm thinking that's our only chance... Brian '69 2000 Tampa, FL ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 20:30:39 2009 From: peter harrison To: datsun Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:17:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, what about the cost of the stainless ones ?? any one have experience of cost and look/feel?? > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:08:12 +0000 > From: ppeters914@comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > > Probably cost more with the shipping. > > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Hollands" > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:20:42 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > > Is there no Chinese Chrome???? > My plan is to pollute their environment. I'm thinking that's our only > chance... > > Brian > '69 2000 > Tampa, FL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 06:00:33 2009 From: Mitchell Planck To: peter harrison Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:53:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, I did a quick search and there are several chrome plating alternatives out there - they seem to mostly use a process similar to painting. You send the part and they send it back pretty. Paint type prep work - they'll do it if you haven't (for extra cost of course), then a special coating, some call it silvering, and some can add some coloring agents to give a gold or other color. The results looked nice in the pictures and they said it needed care like any other painted piece. Does anyone have any experience with that type of coating? I didn't see any prices but most of the sites said it was cheaper and 'greener' than traditional chrome plating. -Mitch On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:17 PM, peter harrison < granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> wrote: > what about the cost of the stainless ones ?? any one have experience of > cost > and look/feel?? > > > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:08:12 +0000 > > From: ppeters914@comcast.net > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The > Question > > > > Probably cost more with the shipping. > > > > Pete > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Hollands" > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:20:42 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The > Question > > > > Is there no Chinese Chrome???? > > My plan is to pollute their environment. I'm thinking that's our only > > chance... > > > > Brian > > '69 2000 > > Tampa, FL > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mitch@brooks-planck.org > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 07:00:33 2009 From: Tim To: Mitchell Planck , "datsun-roadsters: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 9:48:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chrome alternatives---was to Chrome or not to chrome Did you save the links for these companies? Send them to me if you would. I would be willing to send a piece as a test piece. Tim ---- Mitchell Planck wrote: ============= I did a quick search and there are several chrome plating alternatives out there - they seem to mostly use a process similar to painting. You send the part and they send it back pretty. Paint type prep work - they'll do it if you haven't (for extra cost of course), then a special coating, some call it silvering, and some can add some coloring agents to give a gold or other color. The results looked nice in the pictures and they said it needed care like any other painted piece. Does anyone have any experience with that type of coating? I didn't see any prices but most of the sites said it was cheaper and 'greener' than traditional chrome plating. -Mitch On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:17 PM, peter harrison < granvillecomputing@hotmail.com> wrote: > what about the cost of the stainless ones ?? any one have experience of > cost > and look/feel?? > > > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:08:12 +0000 > > From: ppeters914@comcast.net > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The > Question > > > > Probably cost more with the shipping. > > > > Pete > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Hollands" > > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:20:42 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The > Question > > > > Is there no Chinese Chrome???? > > My plan is to pollute their environment. I'm thinking that's our only > > chance... > > > > Brian > > '69 2000 > > Tampa, FL > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as ppeters914@comcast.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > ________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as granvillecomputing@hotmail.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mitch@brooks-planck.org > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tputland@charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 07:16:05 2009 From: Mitchell Planck To: datsun Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:06:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, http://www.alternativechrome.com/ http://www.eliteplating.com/ Most of the links I found were for companies selling the system. These two are ones that actually do it. I'm sure there are more out there too. -Mitch On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Mitchell Planck wrote: > I did a quick search and there are several chrome plating alternatives out > there - they seem to mostly use a process similar to painting. You send the > part and they send it back pretty. Paint type prep work - they'll do it if > you haven't (for extra cost of course), then a special coating, some call it > silvering, and some can add some coloring agents to give a gold or other > color. The results looked nice in the pictures and they said it needed care > like any other painted piece. > > Does anyone have any experience with that type of coating? I didn't see any > prices but most of the sites said it was cheaper and 'greener' than > traditional chrome plating. > > -Mitch ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 07:30:35 2009 From: "O'Farrell, Fergus P (AS)" To: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:24:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Pitt Vintage GP pics, Probably old news, but I stumbled across these today.. (they make great wallpaper.) Tom Phelan in amongst them as well. (and another all red roadster) http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/default.aspx?carID=13086&i=4#menu this one is my favorite: http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/409645,13086/1967-Datsun-2000_photo.as px (the amount of clearance from tire to fender on the exposed rear tire makes me wonder what was happening on the other side) Fergus O [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 08:16:34 2009 From: "oliver" To: "datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:07:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chrome alternatives---was to Chrome or not to chrome i would be very interested in the outcome. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Mitchell Planck" ; "datsun-roadsters:autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chrome alternatives---was to Chrome or not to chrome > Did you save the links for these companies? Send them to me if you would. > I would be willing to send a piece as a test piece. > > Tim > > > ---- Mitchell Planck wrote: ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 08:31:02 2009 From: Ronnie Day To: Roadster List Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:23:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pitt Vintage GP pics, Very nice. The silver '67 is absolutely gorgeous. They weren't this nice new. At least I don't remember our '70 looking nearly as good. Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 08:31:12 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:32:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rare 65 Silvia on Ebay Check out this 65 Silvia on Ebay in Australia. Some interesting history in the listing. ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 08:32:03 2009 From: jeremy mayne To: , , Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:29:47 +0000 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, I had been looking into reflective chrome powdercoating, such as these Eastwoods products http://www.eastwood.com/hotcoat-powder-coating.html but I wasn't convinced by the look. I need to able to refinish ALL the brightwork on my 1600, and powdercoating doesn't look close enough to chrome to me to chance using it on bumpers, headlight trim, etc. But the chrome paint/plating looks better, so I'll be very curious to know if anyone tries it. To do all my parts in real chrome would cost more than my car is worth! Jeremy Mayne 70 SPL stroker > From: joek@camberconstruction.com > To: stebharvey@ameritech.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:22:39 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > > Anybody have any experience with the Chrome colored powder coating? > > Joe Kinstle > '68 2L > BLK SRL > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:16 PM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > > Thanks to all who provided input. I had my 2000 valve cover done several > years ago for around the same price and that was a much more labor intense > process for the chromer because it's aluminum and it needed a great amount > of prep work. I understand the Hugh price increase thanks to the epa so I > guess I'll go with the re-chroming this winter. I'm sure I'll be happy with > the results, especially if it helps me get a trophy or two! Thanks again. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Harvey > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:48 AM > To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > > Group, > > > > I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in > Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the > grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very dull. > Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that are > on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of my > project car. Any input is appreciated. > > > > Steve > > Milwaukee > You are subscribed as stebharvey@ameritech.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > You are subscribed as joek@camberconstruction.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jeremymayne@msn.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 08:32:15 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:35:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, There are stainless bumpers available (mentioned here and discussed on 311s.org), but I've never heard of stainless grilles. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:17 PM To: datsun Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question what about the cost of the stainless ones ?? any one have experience of cost and look/feel?? ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 09:18:14 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'O'Farrell, Fergus P \(AS\)'" , Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:08:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pitt Vintage GP pics, Tom is in #13 (North Carolina). Dick Tillinger is driving #33 (New York). Not sure what number the third white roadster is, but I'd guess it's Doc Herman (Ohio). Not sure I've ever seen the red roadster with black trim? Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus P Probably old news, but I stumbled across these today.. (they make great wallpaper.) Tom Phelan in amongst them as well. (and another all red roadster) http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/default.aspx?carID=13086&i=4#menu Fergus O ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 09:18:38 2009 From: "Bubba" To: "Brian Hollands" , Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:12:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, Won't work. They turn it into paint and use it on our kids toys. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hollands" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > Is there no Chinese Chrome???? > My plan is to pollute their environment. I'm thinking that's our only > chance... > > Brian > '69 2000 > Tampa, FL > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bubwin@mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 09:18:46 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:19:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Doheny All Nissan/ Datsun BBQ Saturday October 31, 2009 Forwarding..... _____ From: bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Randy York Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:37 AM To: 510 List Subject: Doheny All Nissan/ Datsun BBQ Saturday October 31, 2009 Hey All! This Halloween Saturday is the All Datsun BBQ at Doheny Beach, But you need to RSVP so they know how much food to bring! RSVP to jjharriss@yahoo. com No RSVP...no soup for you !!! Doheny All Nissan/ Datsun BBQ Date: Saturday October 31, 2009 Time: 10:00 am - 4:00 pm Location: Doheny State Beach Street: 25300 Dana Point Harbor Drive City State Zip: Dana Point, CA 92629 Phone: (949) 496-6172 (Doheny SB) Notes: HAPPY HALLOWEEN! Doheny All Nissan/ Datsun BBQ 10 AM to 4 PM $15.00 fee to enter the park with a passenger car or truck Bring a side dish, drinks or a dessert to share. Please bring canned goods for the food bank! More Info: http://www.dohenyst atebeach. org RSVP to jjharriss@yahoo. com or reply to this message. No RSVP...no soup for you !!! ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 09:32:46 2009 From: "Pete Peters" To: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:30:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Doheny All Nissan/ Datsun BBQ Saturday October 31, 2009 Resending without the funky, mangled HTML crap...... -----Original Message----- From: bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request@bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of Randy York Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:37 AM To: 510 List Subject: Doheny All Nissan/ Datsun BBQ Saturday October 31, 2009 Hey All! This Halloween Saturday is the All Datsun BBQ at Doheny Beach, but you need to RSVP so they know how much food to bring! RSVP to jjharriss@yahoo.com No RSVP...no soup for you !!! Doheny All Nissan/ Datsun BBQ Date: Saturday October 31, 2009 Time: 10:00 am - 4:00 pm Location: Doheny State Beach Street: 25300 Dana Point Harbor Drive City State Zip: Dana Point, CA 92629 Phone: (949) 496-6172 (Doheny SB) Notes: HAPPY HALLOWEEN! Doheny All Nissan/ Datsun BBQ 10 AM to 4 PM $15.00 fee to enter the park with a passenger car or truck Bring a side dish, drinks or a dessert to share. Please bring canned goods for the food bank! More Info: http://www.dohenystatebeach.org ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 09:33:01 2009 From: "alagams@juno.com" To: ppeters914@comcast.net Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:27:35 GMT Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rare 65 Silvia on Ebay Wow, that does look sweet. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Pete Peters" To: Subject: [Roadsters] Rare 65 Silvia on Ebay Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:32:18 -0700 Check out this 65 Silvia on Ebay in Australia. Some interesting history in the listing. You are subscribed as alagams@juno.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ____________________________________________________________ Get Help With Your Credit Cards! Free online quote in 2 minutes. 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Total price was $250, and about $50 total in shipping both ways. There were some repairs (mounting bolt needed to be replaced / slight dent and some straightening) that they did as part of their service. Price for each of the ends was $75, and $100 for the center piece alone. Don't know how much for your grille, but it is a TRUE chrome. Enrique ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: [Roadsters] To Chrome or Not to Chrome, That Is The Question > Group, > > I sent out pictures of my 2000 grill to several re-chroming shops here in > Wisconsin. All returned quotes of around 250.00 to prep and re-chrome the > grill. The grill is rust and dent free but the original chrome is very > dull. > Has anyone had components powder coated with the chrome-like paints that > are > on the market? $250.00 just seems too expensive for such a small piece of > my > project car. Any input is appreciated. > > Steve > Milwaukee ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 14:01:14 2009 From: "Steve Harvey" To: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:50:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Factory dents? I have three hoods and two cars. In working on my project car's hood I noticed spot welding dents on both sides of the lower end of the hood on both sides of the "DATSUN" emblem. The other two hoods have the same exposed dents as well. Did not the factory make any attempt to cover up these areas? In stripping the project car to bare metal I noted the factory lead that was applied in many areas of the body but not the hood. Interesting. Don't get me wrong, I love my little car, I'm just wondering why the factory didn't lead the hood as well. Or, do I have three "special bus" hoods? Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 15:49:02 2009 From: pjmill@sonic.net To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:41:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Factory dents? Typically the quality of body work that was done at Nissan in the early and mid-'60s was pretty bad, and the quality of the steel wasn't that great either -- probably recycled Chevys. It's kinda surprising you haven't found more "mess" from the factory actually! My hood had an actual weld line on the top of it! > I have three hoods and two cars. In working on my project car's hood I > noticed spot welding dents on both sides of the lower end of the hood on > both sides of the "DATSUN" emblem. The other two hoods have the same > exposed > dents as well. Did not the factory make any attempt to cover up these > areas? > In stripping the project car to bare metal I noted the factory lead that > was > applied in many areas of the body but not the hood. Interesting. Don't get > me wrong, I love my little car, I'm just wondering why the factory didn't > lead the hood as well. Or, do I have three "special bus" hoods? > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pjmill@sonic.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 19:49:41 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Steve Harvey" , Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:48:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Factory dents? Steve, Many early cars had hoods with seams running left and right from the hood scoop which were visible after "finishing". You can still see traces in the hood of my '67-1/2. Just poor quality metal work. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Harvey" To: Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Factory dents? >I have three hoods and two cars. In working on my project car's hood I > noticed spot welding dents on both sides of the lower end of the hood on > both sides of the "DATSUN" emblem. The other two hoods have the same > exposed > dents as well. Did not the factory make any attempt to cover up these > areas? > In stripping the project car to bare metal I noted the factory lead that > was > applied in many areas of the body but not the hood. Interesting. Don't get > me wrong, I love my little car, I'm just wondering why the factory didn't > lead the hood as well. Or, do I have three "special bus" hoods? > > > > Steve > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 20:18:53 2009 From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" To: "Ronnie Day" , "Roadster List" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:08:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pitt Vintage GP pics, I agree the silver '67 is nice, but, unless the chassis number is misstated, it is not an original '67-1/2 2000: SPL311-13837? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Day" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pitt Vintage GP pics, > Very nice. The silver '67 is absolutely gorgeous. They weren't this nice > new. At least I don't remember our '70 looking nearly as good. > > Ron > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc@att.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 12:32:23 2009 From: Dave Cooke To: Roadster List Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:05:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Swag for Christmas? With Christmas just around the corner & only 54 shopping days left, I was thinking of what I would like for Christmas. My family will undoubtably be asking me this question soon. Rather than give them a list of the Roadster parts I need.. I can't imagine my daughter gettin excited about me opening my gift of a new shift boot or rubber hood bumpers... Sure I would love these things, but I think my family would be happier getting me something else, like maybe a Datsun hat, shirt, jacket or other Roadster memoriablia. So, if you have any webpage links to Datsun swag, etc... reply to this message with the shopping link. If enough items get posted here, I'd be happy to throw all the links onto a special webpage on my family website for your one stop shopping :) I'll post this on the 311s forum also. Dave Cooke Midwest Roadsters I'll start the ball rolling.... Here's the first Datsun gift link.. http://www.rotary13b1.com/p/1152/Datsun-Baseball-Cap---Style-C.html ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 14:23:31 2009 From: Ron Hamilton To: Datsun Forum Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:07:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Phoenix area roadster people If you are interested I just put a 1600 motor on craig's list for the locals as I can't ship it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/1444472196.html Ron ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 14:54:20 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'Ron Hamilton'" , "'Datsun Forum'" Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:34:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Phoenix area roadster people If Ohio wasn't so far from Phoenix, it would be sold! Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Hamilton Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 5:07 PM To: Datsun Forum Subject: [Roadsters] Phoenix area roadster people If you are interested I just put a 1600 motor on craig's list for the locals as I can't ship it. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/1444472196.html Ron You are subscribed as 9laser3@bright.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 15:36:39 2009 From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Datsun Mailing List Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:15:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Off topic - Friday Funny Just gotta share this.....We wondered why the vintage sconce we ordered arrived in a somewhat crushed condition. Then we saw the surveillance video that the lighting store posted on YouTube. And just think, all of those boxes were for a lighting store, e.g., all contained fragile and/or glass contents. Unbelievable! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mhz1-biEY Have a great weekend, Greg SRL31100494 (Roadster content here) ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 17:23:35 2009 From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net> To: "'datsun-roadsters'" Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:54:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Winterizing, carefully Last week I decided my roadster riding season was over so I tucked mine in for the winter. One of the things I do is fill the gas tank and add some fuel stabilizer. But this time, I guess I filled it a bit full on a cold day. Today the local temps topped 70 and I got home to the smell of gas in the garage. I quick look around and I found a puddle of gas under the fuel cap. The warm weather expanded the gas! Losing a pint of fuel isn't so bad. Finding the paint beneath the cap nicely bubbled was not so much fun. Just another thing to add to my spring routine! Paul Ohio ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 18:25:15 2009 From: "MH" To: "Dave Cooke" , "Roadster List" Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:59:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Swag for Christmas? I can only give my personal recommendation NOT to purchase these kind of items from CafePress.com, buyer beware. Last Christmas, my wife returned nearly $200 worth of Datsun related memorabilia from them. We kept a clock and a sticker. Also, know that the vendor of the Datsun goods on that site has presented a less than honorable experience with other members of the roadster community through Ebay as well. Caveat Emptor or whatever. If others have had a good experience with him, then good for them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Cooke" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Swag for Christmas? > With Christmas just around the corner & only 54 shopping days left, I was > thinking of what I would like for Christmas. My family will undoubtably be > asking me this question soon. Rather than give them a list of the Roadster > parts I need.. I can't imagine my daughter gettin excited about me opening > my gift of a new shift boot or rubber hood bumpers... Sure I would love > these things, but I think my family would be happier getting me something > else, like maybe a Datsun hat, shirt, jacket or other Roadster memoriablia. > So, if you have any webpage links to Datsun swag, etc... reply to this > message with the shopping link. If enough items get posted here, I'd be > happy to throw all the links onto a special webpage on my family website for > your one stop shopping :) > I'll post this on the 311s forum also. > > Dave Cooke > Midwest Roadsters > > I'll start the ball rolling.... Here's the first Datsun gift link.. > > http://www.rotary13b1.com/p/1152/Datsun-Baseball-Cap---Style-C.html > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 21:27:45 2009 From: alvin gogineni To: Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:59:53 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] North Bay FUN RUN 11/14 or 15th? Is anyone interested in a North Bay fun run on the weekend of 11/14? Will from Napa('69 SRL) is organizing the run.He was thinking of going out highway 12 toward Lake Beriessa, then back through Pope Valley over Ink Grade and back to St Helena or Calistoga or something. If that isn't enough we could throw Oakville Grade in and go up over Trinity to Sonoma, or over Mt Vider and back to Napa, or down Dry Creek and back to Napa. I'd like to hear from the BADROC folks and round up some roadsters. We could caravan up from the San Jose area. Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMT AGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009 ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 21:43:06 2009 From: Toby B To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:22:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] hood dents There's another explanation- the seams on my hoods were indeed leaded, but the hinges bear on those points of the hood. So over the years, between vibration and rust, the spot weld 'spots' get pulled down and leave dimples. It's really more of a case of a design that wasn't very good. You're not supposed to spot- weld panels in visible places... but Nissan did it all over the Roadster. Toby > I have three hoods and two cars. In working on my project car's hood I > noticed spot welding dents on both sides of the lower end of the hood on > both sides of the "DATSUN" emblem. The other two hoods have the same exposed > dents as well. Did not the factory make any attempt to cover up these areas? > In stripping the project car to bare metal I noted the factory lead that was > applied in many areas of the body but not the hood. Interesting. Don't get > me wrong, I love my little car, I'm just wondering why the factory didn't > lead the hood as well. Or, do I have three "special bus" hoods? > > > > Steve ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 31 10:28:40 2009 From: Dewey Hahlbohm To: Toby B , datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:01:41 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hood dents Toby, I agree with your take on this. Spot welding the hood was the design flaw that showed itself after years of use. Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Toby B >Sent: Oct 30, 2009 10:22 PM >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] hood dents > >There's another explanation- >the seams on my hoods were indeed leaded, >but the hinges bear on those points of the hood. >So over the years, between vibration and rust, the spot weld 'spots' >get pulled down and leave dimples. >It's really more of a case of a design that wasn't very good. >You're not supposed to spot- weld panels in visible places... >but Nissan did it all over the Roadster. > >Toby > >> I have three hoods and two cars. In working on my project car's hood I >> noticed spot welding dents on both sides of the lower end of the hood on >> both sides of the "DATSUN" emblem. The other two hoods have the same >exposed >> dents as well. Did not the factory make any attempt to cover up these >areas? >> In stripping the project car to bare metal I noted the factory lead that >was >> applied in many areas of the body but not the hood. Interesting. Don't get >> me wrong, I love my little car, I'm just wondering why the factory didn't >> lead the hood as well. Or, do I have three "special bus" hoods? >> >> >> >> Steve >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as hahlbohmd@earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 31 19:38:54 2009 From: Pete Peters To: Datsun Roadster List Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 02:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hood dents So, what would be the correct way to attach/fix? Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby B" To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:22:18 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Roadsters] hood dents There's another explanation- The seams on my hoods were indeed leaded, but the hinges bear on those points of the hood. So over the years, between vibration and rust, the spot weld 'spots' get pulled down and leave dimples. It's really more of a case of a design that wasn't very good. You're not supposed to spot- weld panels in visible places... but Nissan did it all over the Roadster. Toby ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters