From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 11:59:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947DB40413 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 11:59:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s29.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s29.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D9340401 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 11:59:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W109 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 2 Dec 2012 10:59:07 -0800 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 13:59:07 -0500 FILETIME=[1B47E580:01CDD0BF] Subject: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 next Sunday. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 14:01:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F434041B for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 14:01:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CA24040E for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 13:56:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qB2KtmIE031730; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:55:48 -0500 Received: from core-mtc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.17]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0D529E000089; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:55:48 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:55:47 -0500 (EST) To: trmarty@hotmail.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354481748; bh=3sWsLW92m/DgvL8RFpB9IJgOdlZ3iQfL6XfpeXt3r1c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GgBTjhFkY5cQ0yMM8GU2l+qBrc3aiqXjP30X5Lau52voLi3VGTlErJZTxyuAXJicF mLDUIcnFWqVGq8jfniVgXNCM1EG18SlZTL7GiC0bgXpEd51MhLM5f5+LPZgRC7yDBD FzWTafyrMosIfhKhXthFSzK6syUXB7eRLCaBF9aI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d50bbc054001a Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 12/02/2012 12:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, trmarty@hotmail.com writes: > The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 > next > Sunday. > He's just a kid. I've got underwear that old. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 15:49:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688E34041B for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:49:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4BD40410 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:44:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MEF005PVDTOIY10@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:44:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , , References: <2ed8.f5f96d3.3ded1a53@aol.com> Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:44:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I got stuff in my refrigerator that old! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE > In a message dated 12/02/2012 12:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, > trmarty@hotmail.com writes: > > >> The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 >> next >> Sunday. >> > > He's just a kid. I've got underwear that old. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 15:56:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBC94043D for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:56:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAB940410 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:56:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.224.121.188] (101.sub-174-252-176.myvzw.com [174.252.176.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qB2MuMvN025297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:56:25 -0500 References: <2ed8.f5f96d3.3ded1a53@aol.com> <22CA7C1C5CA8406DBD09C304342D3AD5@hpd530> From: John Hasty Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:56:20 -0500 To: Bill Tobin a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hKLI1+j5ws5EsQ7Emi3d+A==:17 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=hKLI1+j5ws5EsQ7Emi3d+A==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Careful you guys, I'm only 3 years behind him! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:44 PM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > I got stuff in my refrigerator that old! > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE > > >> In a message dated 12/02/2012 12:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, >> trmarty@hotmail.com writes: >> >> >>> The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 >>> next >>> Sunday. >> >> He's just a kid. I've got underwear that old. >> >> Bill (Damdinger) >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 16:04:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C434041C for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:04:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AD240410 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:58:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qB2MwLlR002189; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:58:21 -0500 Received: from core-dnd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.201]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4BB33E000082; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:58:21 -0500 (EST) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:58:21 -0500 (EST) To: jhhasty@gdhs.com, william.tobin31@verizon.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354489101; bh=78VljPMT7ZQUuTpEWantE1Xnfq1YRJ5VZmQH8DnBhEI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CY3Qf3aY1QJ5cPml293LnzVlbLFkldw3P8zPHoLu6J0GR3qFcaUS7ZJ+PTTD0dFK+ b34DKFhRzF/bNn8j1vcJ2l67lRX3uaqO7h62y8ctF2SeNVa3r8xIWKtvf2IXE1kFTj h2S17h2QLSLEbNa5ppin0ppWyY39Y/Z/TQQYvx/c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca50bbdd0d6482 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Regardless, I wish Ken the best wishes and many happy returns. I need to call him, he's a good guy!!! In a message dated 12/2/2012 2:57:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jhhasty@gdhs.com writes: Careful you guys, I'm only 3 years behind him! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:44 PM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > I got stuff in my refrigerator that old! > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE > > >> In a message dated 12/02/2012 12:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, >> trmarty@hotmail.com writes: >> >> >>> The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 >>> next >>> Sunday. >> >> He's just a kid. I've got underwear that old. >> >> Bill (Damdinger) >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 16:38:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09394043A for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:38:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A63340410 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:29:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8C7691C000122; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.129]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 283ACE000081; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:29:54 -0500 (EST) References: <13a6.41010ccc.3ded370d@aol.com> To: Gt6steve@aol.com, jhhasty@gdhs.com, william.tobin31@verizon.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m163.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.154) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:29:53 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:29:53 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354490994; bh=0lMMqlS/2o/yvGWDAljXDbGeS8yCNIi7ux8e2VleeaE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=exMyWDs6PAFmDlyv764sQ+GnjzaUNqJFEOsZJblKmFCohhtr7LYXyGVqr/IiurSIB oHIrrY/IYQABPuWtGm5qha7Yly0aY17lfmssIHvKZnJPLUCbXdx+h88nteM4zyX3sO I2TjGrpudu2Fwji4uAa+XgBLRohsvXWAnL87hXOQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50bbe4722e78 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If the FOT had a "HALL OF FAME", Ken Gillanders would be on it. Best Wishes Ken Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Gt6steve To: jhhasty ; william.tobin31 Cc: fot Sent: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 5:05 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Regardless, I wish Ken the best wishes and many happy returns. I need to call him, he's a good guy!!! In a message dated 12/2/2012 2:57:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jhhasty@gdhs.com writes: Careful you guys, I'm only 3 years behind him! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:44 PM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > I got stuff in my refrigerator that old! > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE > > >> In a message dated 12/02/2012 12:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, >> trmarty@hotmail.com writes: >> >> >>> The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 >>> next >>> Sunday. >> >> He's just a kid. I've got underwear that old. >> >> Bill (Damdinger) >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 16:45:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338F240E53 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:45:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81BD40410 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:37:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id e20so1056159dak.14 for ; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:37:09 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mZOlGXDt6SM1MxrEcVgFrtBckmW+vxC9bGeOLJpmxzk=; b=f7OiejNEVPLzY9luIlUiNHLLFL52yu0E/M34fhZ0Cmbi6vAfKJtJFSMu8fU3Edn3nz wpoeBb6D6XjCTRXcGTdzH/l3+IAaOmDjw8g+ZGOBt+ZDwYLkzx5zgX1I0btilgca0GKs tQQTwn47QNpP58epYvzCuosSK5gtIQ8K/fLFYHj721HvqCBoaypEq0IV0n2HLT08r4sF 44CANu/N8SzxsvbHy4w8LYUAOzeMg+BweHosm/FsKF2RMKc+/qxGbeRYee4a785eJ7/h MwWOIx3yxeLT7RmTHCWw1Pumgk7COEozIrKv+aWf8GsCQEBZ4MKAu5qznkyu5oY24J0G zMvA== Received: by 10.68.143.129 with SMTP id se1mr24866022pbb.67.1354491429754; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-153-251.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.153.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oi2sm6952548pbb.62.2012.12.02.15.37.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:37:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:37:05 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <2ed8.f5f96d3.3ded1a53@aol.com> <22CA7C1C5CA8406DBD09C304342D3AD5@hpd530> Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 12/2/12 3:44 PM, Bill Tobin wrote: > I got stuff in my refrigerator that old! EEEEEWWWW!!!!!! I could have done without that image. Maybe it is about time to replace that Frigidaire are with the round radiator on top. Get get something newer to start a new culture in. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 17:14:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB7B4069E for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:14:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580F240410 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:03:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2012 00:03:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.250] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2012 00:03:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2012 00:03:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 40451 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2012 00:03:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354492998; bh=ssIGpaEIliC/XMt8SQbyRCsgxzFvmuFPuLHSVCqi0x8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fCu3B2UBB/HIXPdfuGkca3Amw+IzZ3g3lGEPL8kbwPmb96rWXs5DR+U8jrRPPrg6fz4Fuxkz/qUkxQFyN1ZVxeqi4h2BssjwBinSU02mcysiyP5EaGHJrS1E7Tzjkm1az4uuMd4tVKDfXO4WnaVWOAAhLtxZN89by7Zdr/GSduk= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ORugb8LvZcSWK/8pjE7eQPWr0K2K9KfrjPAEJ3srQsDycKMMStjobakQva/EBYgwBx1AB8ZTxaHqVUPnNDtzL35F+xQ5+r9iivgQczQtDJoKuummY4wY/YLv7Ds2CWYr5vYymX+HFvKRI26YxtqmAZVX8cmIxtRog9GtKyFCnK4=; fue22ES6VMOXXqTMC86gE8e67n6ecTf_HVgzeZkKn1ggtanb4aAHiFPwjGBL x31CU6yqUySZDzE3yiXD.1btOMoihU4BUW1EwWpH_WuSwl3epaAn5bZrYhaQ 9.BwWjrwwhAe_xhKa3edia2YourJbdlO4Hz1rkMyJDfvv1gPaeCAkXedJ7_D a7gq4F2A6E9EL_GT6NKZO.z02QjqR5Vmx0nslvMIHA2ddePirJHiDWuXp4l. ycoqqc6CKNuP1UJ_giNyAr8WB7NDeqB6gLXMwKjdbDv6A8qsmpHRcd8HAA0Z 9MBfP0aHwd2x_Gg4AplSWW33.Ulyt330tUYk8Uywp_ZPoFKijHWnpb.4qyKd K1SSmfQVnhE3eBZjNqJVz0EtDtfNQ9mr7X0BifyS4eYPBd1YILoZbYpXajdP CkcdQE8eo0kErwtWEcMbz0VOi Received: from [66.192.188.2] by web160904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:03:18 PST SSB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvIG5vbWluYXRlIEJydWNlIExhcGllcnJlIHRvIEZPVC7CoCBCcnVjZSBpcyBteSBmYXRoZXIgaW4gbGF3IGFuZCB0aGUgZ3V5IHdobyBnb3QgbWUgcmFjaW5nIFRyaXVtcGhzLsKgIFRoZSBUUjQgSSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gcmFjaW5nIHRoZSBsYXN0IDMgeWVhcnMgd2FzIGhpcyBjYXIgdGhhdCB3YXMgcnVuIGluIFNvbG8uwqAgQnJ1Y2UgZm91bmQgdGhlIGNhciBpbiBDaGljYWdvIGFuZCBoYWQgdGhlIGNhciByZXN0b3JlZCBkb2luZyBhIGdyZWF0IGpvYiByZXNlYXJjaGluZyB0aGUgY2EBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:03:18 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Mehl To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] Nomination to FOT for Bruce Lapierre Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to nominate Bruce Lapierre to FOT. Bruce is my father in law and the guy who got me racing Triumphs. The TR4 I have been racing the last 3 years was his car that was run in Solo. Bruce found the car in Chicago and had the car restored doing a great job researching the cars History learing it was raced from 1962 shortly after coming out of the dealership. Bruce is a British car guy with a TR2, Austin Healy and a MGTD. I know he would really enjoy being part of this group. Thanks - Mike Mehl #46 TR4 Vancouver Washington Bruce's email is fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 17:23:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1C640453 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:23:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.190]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEDA40412 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:17:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2012 00:17:30 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.119] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2012 00:17:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2012 00:17:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354493849; bh=W9j35+7jvYTN6VCW/Yl0KpzA8+prUY4XhCheX22a/yc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=kx53snrG9IJhPFUmCV2phCkIGzBM8jO1tLipXmm8UbVwpq2iQaY44G9DV4X08DQuJiphj0vtQ/pBBBXdCf10vbCVh82cz+2GOFq1iqIr9ravsolVEMnfZWR5a/P9kQyrFdW6L5Mz8cEi13LGSnS6Dqx4rJiJUiCeP4J6T9FH2J8= y.apyOzYuj3ddFddboVWX2RaJ31R0lPhaCpMFb00Y3SY0bfUl8UeMrSSYaso NIBU11POanSA2rFPrYn_Unl6zrc32OdJ0nB2MLx3UfeyXiIiFQlQBTYfE5Qx 0G_ovq9u5nVYCXaNcXyFBeZ..D1HkQhHQlJR0fQqbnTFh4CcUcyEActx3lZo kSgj_jDkkxZ.DghbSPGSiUGQAoXVhbZMlf2bTo.mS1gLa.rXYfV67DWQ8yL9 eMys5HJmkfrVWCC2Us_ADJ1sDdEATK_B3KfBmprZOmu9QwrLzkIJmV_GxOLo Zm3cI3dIfpwOunCi8hsmaQrtAFapujXTNQwYJqRjgZJt6_hNuwmM0ab9cjSH 7dY_.Y727hTtTop6tWSm3qQO3r759yX_mwbTlt8NVe2rFhnPPyLlNKzVmMCZ WTt8E9kSpdeA0FCw17hI3ZtbW7JiX4t18ImMrk7vJISdAe9Sk Received: from EntCentPC (jibjib@71.212.12.109 with login) by smtp114.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Dec 2012 16:17:29 -0800 PST From: "Jack Brooks" To: "'FOT'" References: Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:17:43 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3QvzT95w3VF1XVT9KRAz0nuoDR9QALAevg Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's Gillanders. Thanks for providing the date! -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:59 AM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] BFE The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 next Sunday. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 17:23:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9211540651 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:23:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s7.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s7.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D14540412 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:18:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU401-EAS361 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:18:05 -0800 References: <13a6.41010ccc.3ded370d@aol.com> <8CF9EFC103449AF-2010-445B2@webmail-m163.sysops.aol.com> From: Charles WATSON Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:18:02 -0500 To: Joe Alexander FILETIME=[AA195010:01CDD0EB] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's a pretty cool idea. Should there be one (hall of fame)? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2012, at 6:39 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > If the FOT had a "HALL OF FAME", Ken Gillanders would be on it. > > Best Wishes Ken > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gt6steve > To: jhhasty ; william.tobin31 > Cc: fot > Sent: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 5:05 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE > > > Regardless, I wish Ken the best wishes and many happy returns. I need to > call him, he's a good guy!!! > > > In a message dated 12/2/2012 2:57:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jhhasty@gdhs.com writes: > > Careful you guys, I'm only 3 years behind him! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:44 PM, "Bill Tobin" > wrote: > >> I got stuff in my refrigerator that old! >> Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- From: >> To: ; >> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE >> >> >>> In a message dated 12/02/2012 12:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, >>> trmarty@hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> >>>> The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 >>>> next >>>> Sunday. >>> >>> He's just a kid. I've got underwear that old. >>> >>> Bill (Damdinger) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 17:25:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860B040537 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:25:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B8340419 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:25:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W39 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:25:06 -0800 From: marty sukey To: , FOT , Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:25:06 -0500 References: <1354492998.37450.YahooMailNeo@web160904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> FILETIME=[A536BE60:01CDD0EC] Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination to FOT for Bruce Lapierre Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Second for sure. If this is the Bruce and car I am thinking of, I have a video of it somewhere of it impressively blowing an engine at a track day at Nelsons Ledges back in the mid 1990's. Of coarse he might have to lose the MG. Marty ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:03:18 -0800 > From: mike.mehl@yahoo.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Nomination to FOT for Bruce Lapierre > > I would like to nominate Bruce Lapierre to FOT. Bruce is my father in law and > the guy who got me racing Triumphs. The TR4 I have been racing the last 3 > years was his car that was run in Solo. Bruce found the car in Chicago and > had the car restored doing a great job researching the cars History learing it > was raced from 1962 shortly after coming out of the dealership. Bruce is a > British car guy with a TR2, Austin Healy and a MGTD. I know he would really > enjoy being part of this group. > > Thanks - Mike Mehl #46 TR4 Vancouver > Washington > > Bruce's email is fasttr4@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 17:38:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC1140521 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:38:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D974041A for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:37:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2E9241C000051; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.129]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 86222E000085; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:36:58 -0500 (EST) References: <13a6.41010ccc.3ded370d@aol.com> <8CF9EFC103449AF-2010-445B2@webmail-m163.sysops.aol.com> To: clw2000@msn.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m163.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.154) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:36:58 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:36:58 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354495019; bh=1rIAmN7wOEa7gZR0mNngCynLUoyWuruuoAC39rHBuY0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Od+htQQYtj2EdVCY1f1jUapyP843IMI41CRBp8zMnxNUJbXhdnsXlrglEH6FJWnJ7 /0afdiVfpv9WIqGznOjT41/nsSRV74IZjf87jO52xS3eGQU4naFcBsRXlT5ZGiklx6 EKlrZnxCDttZfxl0VBJsKlwFi2uNiNpqmXW1kNkc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b50bbf42a0af7 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Charles, If we had a HALL OF FAME we would have to have associated rules and a committee to administer. FOT = no rules, no dues, no meetings, no BOD, no backbiting, NO NEED. we know who we are....we are all IMPORTANT -----Original Message----- From: Charles WATSON To: Joe Alexander Cc: Gt6steve ; jhhasty ; william.tobin31 ; fot Sent: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 6:18 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE That's a pretty cool idea. Should there be one (hall of fame)? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2012, at 6:39 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > If the FOT had a "HALL OF FAME", Ken Gillanders would be on it. > > Best Wishes Ken > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gt6steve > To: jhhasty ; william.tobin31 > Cc: fot > Sent: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 5:05 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE > > > Regardless, I wish Ken the best wishes and many happy returns. I need to > call him, he's a good guy!!! > > > In a message dated 12/2/2012 2:57:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jhhasty@gdhs.com writes: > > Careful you guys, I'm only 3 years behind him! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:44 PM, "Bill Tobin" > wrote: > >> I got stuff in my refrigerator that old! >> Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- From: >> To: ; >> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE >> >> >>> In a message dated 12/02/2012 12:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, >>> trmarty@hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> >>>> The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 >>>> next >>>> Sunday. >>> >>> He's just a kid. I've got underwear that old. >>> >>> Bill (Damdinger) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 19:39:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E457840449 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:39:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D7240421 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:38:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by app05.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EF31020314; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:38:05 -0600 (CST) To: "Triumph Friends of" , "Mike Mehl" Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:38:05 -0600 From: Charly Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination to FOT for Bruce Lapierre Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } Second! On Sun 02/12/12 4:03 PM , Mike Mehl mike.mehl@yahoo.com sent: I would like to nominate Bruce Lapierre to FOT. Bruce is my father in law and the guy who got me racing Triumphs. The TR4 I have been racing the last 3 years was his car that was run in Solo. Bruce found the car in Chicago and had the car restored doing a great job researching the cars History learing it was raced from 1962 shortly after coming out of the dealership. Bruce is a British car guy with a TR2, Austin Healy and a MGTD. I know he would really enjoy being part of this group. Thanks - Mike Mehl #46 TR4 Vancouver Washington Bruce's email is _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [3] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [5] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [6] Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [7] Links: ------ [3] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [4] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [7] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 23:00:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501DA4043C for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:00:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70504042A for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:00:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Wss71k00A0cQ2SLA1u09cR; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:00:09 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Wu051k0043UuT0T8Wu08RX; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:00:09 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 22:50:25 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3RGhdbfcjWlSq/TjioohlAgDuT0g== s=q20121106; t=1354514409; bh=RHOvdKeFI0KitziRNWQpK7gTqQ3O3jaV6yCczdivXt0=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SImxv7ICiNXK0QfiT4p9teI155DzLEsuJTBNpwBjcA7FnXS7BPWxbyWQ8eajx1dbf s5CXo70H4dr1XoPtGbdjDtWlhgo6kG+YUvqagdbl3x9tIUwUNoWKrwEQ0uAfJDvwgq ba9NjLwo3Rt9G7tiFWEzy/q0OULS32UU4IZe0eWy01k08xs3kV3V9/szRhMjxaJd0q DmguKDksmKR+FyFOjl+8AhgosuCaCgLroQ/NwF1Y8kxBwRKV4Qydy41RI8JZnUAcbF N+0co58zOJEPP6LTY+a5YHCThZCnPcVM0gBoxAIVJXjsmuvZP+S49R9P7JVykm/rOB bPk36xpj/5ixw== Subject: [Fot] TR4 port sections and castings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've posted some new photo's of tr4 port sections and silicone castings of the ports and intake manifold. Tha castings really give a different perpective of the ports. http://s698.beta.photobucket.com/user/TR4jim/library/#/user/TR4jim/library/C ylinder%20head? &_suid=135451343610906970282830168559 jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 2 23:04:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA08640515 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:04:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEF74042A for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:04:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT002-W87 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 2 Dec 2012 22:03:57 -0800 From: Greg Petrolati To: Bill Dentinger , "trmarty@hotmail.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 06:03:57 +0000 References: <2ed8.f5f96d3.3ded1a53@aol.com> FILETIME=[FB49EAA0:01CDD11B] Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > He's just a kid. I've got underwear that old. > Whoooooofffff! that explains it! ;O) Anyhoo happy B-day Ken, you helped make Greenman one hell of a hot street TR! Greg Petrolati Lafayette, Oregon That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... > From: BillDentin@aol.com > Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:55:47 -0500 > To: trmarty@hotmail.com; fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] BFE > > In a message dated 12/02/2012 12:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, > trmarty@hotmail.com writes: > > > > The infamous Ken Gilander, hope I spelled that correctly is turning 80 > > next > > Sunday. > > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 01:55:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9224340449 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 01:55:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD6740439 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 01:55:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WwrJ1k00A1u4NiLA1wvnzF; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:55:47 +0000 Received: from sz0138.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Wwvn1k00F2yr1eL8hwvnMP; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:55:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:55:46 +0000 (UTC) From: haretoday@comcast.net To: Mike Mehl s=q20121106; t=1354524947; bh=yj4mh3XTs1iQbiHEMk4lcRziYkmL0S9wXtugW6URScE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=XURXR3BBEgwTk/zAjqzU90lmB0f2XaN3F6pZo4fuMcWlir/ysSJnoDMMdHiyUsIzu 0TnqK4ILpQmV5xtHYpIYkWyMmsrjUAP4iZEQJRWsYBMGE/zdEUOLmAB3m2i8WQ6fgT IuxN8OuUbgekg4bI8TuB1hv/5NiHojRcxEOQdJ2xRgCIOHxk5sPvU5F5jYKc8MgUWR kJsxLZbxF97wmwpKMiSZqFX/HYliVQ4nUqSjmSlN470oK45EbftqIZ0lxB4yfGHWxS F0DOL1Sx5jTTa1N+T7mdWsG6UNs6DJoxPfcIBPK7Na/2OyfGDZAhDMQHjEsTFmBrFZ gyK4/FfpgJUGQ== Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination to FOT for Bruce Lapierre Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will second the nomination for Bruce. A great guy, knowledgeable and provided some much needed assistance to me this last summer in Portland. A definite asset to our group. Thanks for your consideration of Bruce... Cheers, Steve Hare No. 85 and 72 Spitfires with SOVREN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mehl" To: "Triumph Friends of" Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 4:03:18 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination to FOT for Bruce Lapierre I would like to nominate Bruce Lapierre to FOT. Bruce is my father in law and the guy who got me racing Triumphs. The TR4 I have been racing the last 3 years was his car that was run in Solo. Bruce found the car in Chicago and had the car restored doing a great job researching the cars History learing it was raced from 1962 shortly after coming out of the dealership. Bruce is a British car guy with a TR2, Austin Healy and a MGTD. I know he would really enjoy being part of this group. Thanks - Mike Mehl #46 TR4 Vancouver Washington Bruce's email is fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/haretoday@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 07:47:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24E140515 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:47:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621334043F for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:47:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CD4D11C0000A7; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.17]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EB7DBE000093; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:47:32 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:47:31 -0500 (EST) To: haretoday@comcast.net, mike.mehl@yahoo.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354546053; bh=5VYz9sfTBRX5wnHDfM85vB+1viSAy27iD7mX0Nyq0/c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x8IIDUY27Kqj0mN+DbanX9APmYWPUU8F02s6npn9QeLLJ/coCRD8RBOo4uoEAvIAB k3uSi3N/3DXoNmJsXanBloCVti7EkWV8C+OwpQRXNT+AefnFFLyGu796QBfg6nwWDo JBmrGsQmyeWEuqy5m2RhnQ7ftPj4SAbINqQoAW34= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c850bcbb8403c9 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination to FOT for Bruce Lapierre Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 12/03/2012 2:55:54 AM Central Standard Time, haretoday@comcast.net writes: > I will second the nomination for Bruce. A great guy, knowledgeable and > provided some much needed assistance to me this last summer in Portland. > A definite asset to our group. > Absolutely. A good idea. And like the nominator said, "He's the Father-in-law". The TRIUMPH connection notwithstanding...Bruce can probably get him 'cut off' with the snap of his fingers. You've got to protect your interests. I second the nomination too. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 12:41:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD1C40546 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:41:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C284052A for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:40:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [74.219.99.56] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:51:07 -0500 From: "Mike Moore" To: Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:40:45 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3RjhZ8jO6EDiWZTaSgYu+jC9JHyQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My car came with stock tachometer in the dash and an auxiliary one mounted to steering column. I would like to remove auxiliary mounted on column, and replace the stock one in the dash with a good one that will be accurate. Any recommendations on brand, type, etc? Thanks Mike 62 TR4 Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 12:44:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD8C4052C for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:44:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D894052A for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:43:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id X7cc1k0031u4NiLA57j9jK; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:43:09 +0000 Received: from [10.15.241.208] ([166.137.213.69]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id X7id1k0071WQAeW8h7ilvt; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:43:04 +0000 References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> From: James Gray Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:42:33 -0700 To: Mike Moore s=q20121106; t=1354563789; bh=fhkB+6FEpMYvjzgWAt5eYnS8+mwd1mEp8jgV72dS6fk=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=F0tmlJHBxlisug0CTrK0/Z/T1icjrpSCy8hWoPxdYnjcsNK2xzS4gJuCUaJKGrFKx 06xym1SqLquZ8IjmBeZZaoUtXucWr6Enk8xR2Mg/SpuOuBRwRHooJavGm3KfdPFzHr uaHNKrU3B5Xyfk+g0VcB+gE2pHWIxDgg/BNbc80t8k99meolRTJRnioSw7XAb+DmMs bsFRHmAUk5YNNvmzEKC7ucFYanzoo31Fw1h90Sd9bL6x/0hC0/VKxCG1YgjPwaVFb/ UX77oxWxQ1FZiBMjdd4eZNUwdn/mSCLrPXncV3BFFBzfEzVpEbtmj3FGjTxuIP6Eq2 fXe40vUd7+BKw== Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Auto meter has served me well. Jim g Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Mike Moore" wrote: > My car came with stock tachometer in the dash and an auxiliary one mounted > to steering column. I would like to remove auxiliary mounted on column, and > replace the stock one in the dash with a good one that will be accurate. > > > > Any recommendations on brand, type, etc? > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > 62 TR4 > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 13:51:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE76A40536 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:51:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f169.google.com (mail-ea0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8824042F for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:51:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f169.google.com with SMTP id a12so1621282eaa.14 for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Bla0bleAYoaOlD4n9BMkcqoWM7TJp+dqasP4CBtn+ws=; b=S1/0uwPM1krdq5mAjEE4Lf+MUOunZ90EPLhTHDHbhtfIQKC8GV5p/eNdHbjfNR63X7 WdXAzUoOMFG8OBkEbpLboqOf/AKyUcqhmoXj1giXPcnWDLyODmeBlcN/JzwVz8w5qTfO jxgPSr/4VtXtDlPzvJDh08bydq2si01yD95Zpx5W4Xh1IgUlQem4nl78JBDPwLLXgNga aTLeuaKGFJBNCanxRoRCaUG75VkmGSPM9wzJ0qHeBDQdmdD96BGp+B/iQ3V/NV9FtqFN n3Nuh+iIMkkU6HEz1QY08yeJQwgmqviCxJH9p1fYQ8gpvbHbt3KsMXvS7QLtP2Ocw5lN nZQQ== Received: by 10.14.2.196 with SMTP id 44mr40318371eef.25.1354567887670; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.198 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:51:27 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: James Gray Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Auto meter...can't go wrong 0-8000 with shift light that can be mounted to a place of your choice. Has adjustable needle for max rpm or shifting, easy to install. less than 200.00 as I recall (139.00) On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:42 PM, James Gray wrote: > Auto meter has served me well. > Jim g > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Mike Moore" wrote: > > > My car came with stock tachometer in the dash and an auxiliary one > mounted > > to steering column. I would like to remove auxiliary mounted on column, > and > > replace the stock one in the dash with a good one that will be accurate. > > > > > > > > Any recommendations on brand, type, etc? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Mike > > > > 62 TR4 > > > > > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 14:19:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6027E4044D for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:19:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDCA40416 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:18:55 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=p5Fz5HppRN8A:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=sulaALHYlqi6qYU9tKcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=5nmbGoeUrHwA:10 a=iOgyu-XeqMgA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=K54MzGnsCgECe6p6:21 a=rROcGdDCYUnzhrzq:21 a=RqOAJGx8AAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=LYc-Kg9AJ0POcYfqOqAA:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=Sf_gFPzhefAA:10 a=L0lV12PAY_bS1p3X:21 a=_Q76yWAiv2Fx__79:21 a=DmMoQi_nAW55US8P:21 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:63282] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4A/E3-04016-F271DB05; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:18:48 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Mike Moore'" , References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:19:36 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3RjhZ8jO6EDiWZTaSgYu+jC9JHyQACcRzg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have used an Autometer which has been trouble free for the past 24 years. Anything that lasts that long anymore gets my vote. I have used them in 2 other race cars I have worked on and also used their gauges in a modified vintage Mustang project of my own, adapting them into the original dash panel. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Moore Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:41 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer My car came with stock tachometer in the dash and an auxiliary one mounted to steering column. I would like to remove auxiliary mounted on column, and replace the stock one in the dash with a good one that will be accurate. Any recommendations on brand, type, etc? Thanks Mike 62 TR4 Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_6015.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_6012.JPG] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 15:11:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D63440530 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:11:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4388E4051A for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:11:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d41so2309977eek.14 for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:11:41 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZGinQRBvBevrxnFgi+Ut25MbVE19YCgtZ0dpHUt/p/Q=; b=eq73BsBByUdUkwwWe0L623Ja3HQAf5wg3nQjbr2eiZPpb0IsxdFnW3qVlT0CCf/8Ey oKLbTPwQi8tHw1j7pENclZztQXNkw71xz0cvnMvaD3ovuttrO0cOT4Vry/6cUK+5bxyc H4CkGI4L3TjHgrbvmsGQdqWSn3FbuRjmFCTEmTwuOM67k1laQKO9jV3WDznwP6e0Y78i ldeFOUpCG9wX2jmdYp9PYdIuDnSXo5lSJZvj1DQdqiXf49UFUApFSxEFUCNuJ1YsY9p4 5bhizTT4bf0UhkYDuMwuK0afytQFtrw8omiMMxurvW3H1lPcQAwgf4icCNkFylbG9w+r LgrQ== Received: by 10.14.213.134 with SMTP id a6mr40828215eep.45.1354572701617; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.198 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:11:41 -0800 (PST) References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> <006201cdd19b$e6494530$b2dbcf90$@rr.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:11:41 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: Spitfire Racing Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ebay has the model 3980 for 139.96 without the light which can be added (20.00) but look at the big three distributors, Summitt, Jegs and Speedway and with a little searching you should be able to find it with the remote light.....might try Discovery Parts or Racers Wholesale. If I can find my reciept I will email it to you. On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Spitfire Racing < Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > I have used an Autometer which has been trouble free for the past 24 years. > Anything that lasts that long anymore gets my vote. I have used them in 2 > other race cars I have worked on and also used their gauges in a modified > vintage Mustang project of my own, adapting them into the original dash > panel. > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mike Moore > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:41 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer > > My car came with stock tachometer in the dash and an auxiliary one mounted > to steering column. I would like to remove auxiliary mounted on column, and > replace the stock one in the dash with a good one that will be accurate. > > > > Any recommendations on brand, type, etc? > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > 62 TR4 > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > IMG_6015.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > IMG_6012.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 16:27:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AED4051D for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:27:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A8940420 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:27:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.189] by nm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2012 23:27:25 -0000 Received: from [98.137.0.71] by tm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2012 23:27:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2012 23:27:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354577245; bh=B5cYAebzvTIR68vy+rS79rNQ7wqb561l+/rIAG5b0Ds=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:To; b=GeAw5nTFS/kGc9FxMGk37inAVjhpRz0YiEKg4Ryc0rdCUFe6oRgP3TnO9rGaagRX0/rmx7YZf76Q70hbJLHxHiZBLuziDW/oVw2x+1W98jIDW+iXzu8T8nD596M3+DVRorsve01tzcmf1Ch4EMY/kzMggCvFbPw3sE0VGuE0b2Y= hxAao3mpZ4owIm8tGQdPgCJJ4zd0jVJOEKZaHjcqbQh9jupnGQtWSAu2kmpM xufvD_9eY2NLLNX4lSnpJALqewhBbDKi1DRflP6LCNReDQ8s06Mcy6_gjlSh CFUnL64h2vUci4UJLZL2tRvtClrczKFPXd7iHTlBECyQFQRBTt_B7iomX6Ej BTJuy3N1l7zs0vB9zyp0x4xSd2dDj9aoWxVt9tydHLNgKXIxj_dgBwIybFvy du2Fp8ZGgsEEfkRPssDcgnG0Drf.iMFUa_XNG5Kfr6y1YrLn_fRc5V2rYVaV sGKo0FvGAypiTC9nzkOn43eb3f_7UTKHtA0YKHejIuE3e.9tYSyFUluL.G5w BvHyM2XhabLmm.WORWQwEgfPD9hqAkqsYoRIrzRPmvSnToC04Oz0FFSRNPXu SuprdR5TR7z.b6r2zzvlHe9ILOY.jzucJYMrRyg-- Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Dec 2012 23:27:25 +0000 UTC From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:27:23 -0700 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Cc: jeffwhall@aol.com Subject: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I know that Bobby and Jason could use some company. Please second this nomination for a new GT6 racer. Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his wife once owned a TR7. He bought a GT6 from Bill Fleming the beginning of this year and has been working on it to make it track ready for next year's RMVR events. I know there is a lot of talent on FOT that will benefit Jeff as well as what is detailed in Kas' last book. Ty '63 Triumph TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 16:31:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6A640535 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:31:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2841E40420 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:31:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qB3NVViu020676; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 18:31:31 -0500 Received: from core-msb001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.129]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 488F8E000093; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 18:31:31 -0500 (EST) References: To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com, fot@autox.team.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.174) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:31:30 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 18:31:30 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354577491; bh=I2fednX1O8m6eoXc7lX0aXlVXEBHp9ABpiVbhYUBfW0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CVPSHNneunspzG4xUPqSV3yDOS2i5xrvUZsUpm1YEXyKBEC8Ql7zfzNXOyXleTMrh SZnYxBrQATKWIWgA5tT3jmq/XqQ6IA3nTbnUOQEbQNIm9PMmNz5OxGK4kYc7BF8ZfI ta0oGxgFey0av5Hqnq16NhYKYDP2yNptKtla9Npw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b50bd36534061 Cc: jeffwhall@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 2ND......we have high potential for a gaggle of GT6s at KCUP if we can get them to Road America in September. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tylerpthompson To: fot Cc: jeffwhall Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 5:28 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! I know that Bobby and Jason could use some company. Please second this nomination for a new GT6 racer. Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his wife once owned a TR7. He bought a GT6 from Bill Fleming the beginning of this year and has been working on it to make it track ready for next year's RMVR events. I know there is a lot of talent on FOT that will benefit Jeff as well as what is detailed in Kas' last book. Ty '63 Triumph TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 16:35:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF0240550 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:35:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B85A40432 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:35:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13ACA138B for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:36:18 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:36:18 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: "fot@autox.team.net" References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com wrote: > Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his > wife once owned a TR7. > > We won't hold that against him. He's in. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 16:46:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A8B4054A for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:46:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F2640420 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:46:14 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id c10so4735579ieb.25 for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:46:07 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wJ9NoYkneQdUIXEAF6fh10hWwwSRkuMQWfqwdBLqch8=; b=wgpoB1iaRrD/mei96dYOv8YQC/iqUqRxro/IhcBs/09nt9KsGXTzGefZ9M3eNCWTin RKHRszvzmBM/15ni1JMwJF3u/hSPPHYyjNHdA3juPzEGdD9rv3TUNF8BZH8jBMdjvo2y cS4PMkcpdKxWOu4CWLwXz5cDAqq4bvuBpAR56ETShg2P3IfmrOtL7dJfGgIoO+NFNcKj +3eviSA+dpNg2M1wEOF46nsG0evgh8UXCww5Sms8HPCxhFrmE8i1tmd7mJ6lAiANL0pf 4FUU4JUTTTfa5WLPYtgSrHXjosFH8MBRdWeHtbQTN9H+hWCj3pIk61cgkHr7+AcB0DD4 Hm3Q== Received: by 10.50.13.138 with SMTP id h10mr759991igc.55.1354578367035; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:46:06 -0800 (PST) References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> <006201cdd19b$e6494530$b2dbcf90$@rr.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:46:06 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Robert Deanes Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Guys - For us FOTers you cannot beat the deal you will get from fellow memeber Craig at Diesel Performance Parts. Below is part of an email he sent out last year. "Just depends on the "style" of gauge you select. Go to Autometer.com and see which "look" you want. Let me know and I'll get you a price. Send it to info@dieselperformanceparts.com Triumph racers discount always applies. Ask Brad or Susan they'll tell you. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Robert Deanes wrote: > Ebay has the model 3980 for 139.96 without the light which can be added > (20.00) but look at the big three distributors, Summitt, Jegs and Speedway > and with a little searching you should be able to find it with the remote > light.....might try Discovery Parts or Racers Wholesale. If I can find my > reciept I will email it to you. > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Spitfire Racing < > Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > > > I have used an Autometer which has been trouble free for the past 24 > years. > > Anything that lasts that long anymore gets my vote. I have used them in 2 > > other race cars I have worked on and also used their gauges in a modified > > vintage Mustang project of my own, adapting them into the original dash > > panel. > > > > Russ Moore > > Spitfire #49 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > > Behalf Of Mike Moore > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:41 PM > > To: fot@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer > > > > My car came with stock tachometer in the dash and an auxiliary one > mounted > > to steering column. I would like to remove auxiliary mounted on column, > and > > replace the stock one in the dash with a good one that will be accurate. > > > > > > > > Any recommendations on brand, type, etc? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Mike > > > > 62 TR4 > > > > > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name > of > > IMG_6015.JPG] > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name > of > > IMG_6012.JPG] > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > rob deanes > TR Racer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 17:05:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E62440432 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:05:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s42.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s42.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0454640432 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:05:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT401-EAS55 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s42.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:05:22 -0800 References: From: Vince G Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:05:20 -0500 To: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" FILETIME=[0DDA3D90:01CDD1B3] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes another GT6! Awesome Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-03, at 6:27 PM, "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" wrote: > I know that Bobby and Jason could use some company. Please second this > nomination for a new GT6 racer. > > Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his > wife once owned a TR7. He bought a GT6 from Bill Fleming the beginning of > this year and has been working on it to make it track ready for next year's > RMVR events. > > I know there is a lot of talent on FOT that will benefit Jeff as well as what > is detailed in Kas' last book. > > Ty > > '63 Triumph TR4 #413 > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > (Please excuse any errors or typos) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 17:20:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9F14051D for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:20:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2F440414 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:18:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [71.171.28.217]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MEH00AVFCUM9ZM0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:18:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:20:05 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: Mike Moore References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 12/3/2012 2:40 PM, Mike Moore wrote: > My car came with stock tachometer in the dash and an auxiliary one mounted > to steering column. I would like to remove auxiliary mounted on column, and > replace the stock one in the dash with a good one that will be accurate. > > > > Any recommendations on brand, type, etc? > Mike, I sent my stock TR4 tach to MoMa for her to convert to electronic. I specified that I wanted accuracy of +/-2% from 4 - 6K, which she pretty much achieved. I also mounted the tach on the right side of the steering column, so a quick scan of the panel also includes the tach. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 17:29:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3A140535 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:29:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C7840432 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:29:44 -0700 (MST) a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:17 a=9XOHBX1n8dsA:10 a=O3qRGFz0ioIA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=R7n4AvIAn8kA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=0HQE3xoOT3ZP6ptaGAgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:117 Received: from [173.88.251.65] ([173.88.251.65:52626] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FF/24-21565-1F34DB05; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:29:37 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: , , "Joe Alexander" References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:29:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A Gaggle, that must be an Iowa term! JVV -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:31 PM To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com ; fot@autox.team.net Cc: jeffwhall@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! 2ND......we have high potential for a gaggle of GT6s at KCUP if we can get them to Road America in September. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tylerpthompson To: fot Cc: jeffwhall Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 5:28 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! I know that Bobby and Jason could use some company. Please second this nomination for a new GT6 racer. Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his wife once owned a TR7. He bought a GT6 from Bill Fleming the beginning of this year and has been working on it to make it track ready for next year's RMVR events. I know there is a lot of talent on FOT that will benefit Jeff as well as what is detailed in Kas' last book. Ty '63 Triumph TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 17:40:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9222240551 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:40:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5170740450 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:40:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D78D238000063; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.129]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 81B44E00008D; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:40:18 -0500 (EST) References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> To: jerryvv@roadrunner.com, Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com, fot@autox.team.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.174) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:40:18 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:40:18 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354581618; bh=0IUB3GNn0MIb52yBdejPtzaieUTjdbJQhDbTozbLR/g=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hNpnthu58k1s1crJmkWXg1z3GzAdUYhtLEs9/1N//xThs14W4z89k76FgNiDDISln mkqkhUfHaqhy6zdA/klwJmsWXKBapbYTJ8H36mwRri3UMcr5l+SOQguFvwQCUFhCva GjnabkTkpZ39QpfMlBviYbUVDwCo5jA8GOEwASMw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b50bd46721eb9 Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The image is a 'flock of geese not in flight'. In this case, several GT6s, gathered in the Road America paddock. Perhaps we will have a gaggle of Spitfires, too.......btw, there is a Spitfire available for sale, if anyone is interested. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack To: Tylerpthompson ; fot ; Joe Alexander Cc: jeffwhall Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 6:29 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! A Gaggle, that must be an Iowa term! JVV -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:31 PM To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com ; fot@autox.team.net Cc: jeffwhall@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! 2ND......we have high potential for a gaggle of GT6s at KCUP if we can get them to Road America in September. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tylerpthompson To: fot Cc: jeffwhall Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 5:28 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! I know that Bobby and Jason could use some company. Please second this nomination for a new GT6 racer. Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his wife once owned a TR7. He bought a GT6 from Bill Fleming the beginning of this year and has been working on it to make it track ready for next year's RMVR events. I know there is a lot of talent on FOT that will benefit Jeff as well as what is detailed in Kas' last book. Ty '63 Triumph TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 17:51:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A86F4055F for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:51:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D7240511 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:50:03 -0700 (MST) a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:17 a=9XOHBX1n8dsA:10 a=O3qRGFz0ioIA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=R7n4AvIAn8kA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=9B0qRkCv71lm3KmuRPYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=eUdvT3BbTV87VvZBugAA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=7GXZ4tyyEebLtm_O:21 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:117 Received: from [173.88.251.65] ([173.88.251.65:53207] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B9/78-00785-3B84DB05; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:49:56 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: , , "Joe Alexander" References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <8CF9FCF117355AE-CB8-493C2@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:49:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can remember the Group 44 GT6 at Mid-Ohio in the late 60bs and there is not a sweeter sound than one of those at full song. Bring lots of them to RA next year, we need that Gaggle. JVV From: Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:40 PM To: jerryvv@roadrunner.com ; Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com ; fot@autox.team.net Cc: jeffwhall@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! The image is a 'flock of geese not in flight'. In this case, several GT6s, gathered in the Road America paddock. Perhaps we will have a gaggle of Spitfires, too.......btw, there is a Spitfire available for sale, if anyone is interested. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack To: Tylerpthompson ; fot ; Joe Alexander Cc: jeffwhall Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 6:29 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! A Gaggle, that must be an Iowa term! JVV -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:31 PM To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com ; fot@autox.team.net Cc: jeffwhall@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! 2ND......we have high potential for a gaggle of GT6s at KCUP if we can get them to Road America in September. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tylerpthompson To: fot Cc: jeffwhall Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 5:28 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! I know that Bobby and Jason could use some company. Please second this nomination for a new GT6 racer. Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his wife once owned a TR7. He bought a GT6 from Bill Fleming the beginning of this year and has been working on it to make it track ready for next year's RMVR events. I know there is a lot of talent on FOT that will benefit Jeff as well as what is detailed in Kas' last book. Ty '63 Triumph TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 06:19:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0211640548 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 06:19:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dieselperformanceparts.com (mail.dieselperformanceparts.com [173.221.146.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCBC40512 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 06:19:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b]) by DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b%10]) with mapi; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:19:07 -0600 From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info To: "'fot@autox.team.net'" Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:19:06 -0600 Thread-Topic: Auto Meter Gauges Thread-Index: Ac3SIfAs/I2/+SgIQKqr5NJeCBq6eg== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: [Fot] Auto Meter Gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Membership, As a way to repay the FOT site for all the good stuff it has done for me over the years I can thru my company provide excellent membership discounts on the following brands: Auto Meter Carrillo Mahle Clevite Engine parts ARP fasteners Hawk Brake Pads Total Seal Piston Rings The above brands apply to our Triumphs, but check our web site at www.dieselperformanceparts.com too as we have literally tons of other brands that might apply to your Triumph and or diesel or gas powered tow vehicles too. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 07:55:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3454055E for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:55:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0235A40512 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:55:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qB4EtMYn030102; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:55:28 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'Jerry Van Vlack'" , , , "'Joe Alexander'" References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:55:22 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3RtoWkSCEQs/QRSpSWtSYg9BxzvwAeNbkg a=O3qRGFz0ioIA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=HiZRdorBVouIRwztwxwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=FtNC1JEYzMqwV5L5:21 a=oLy_EULExlDRHULc:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It works in NC as well! John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlack Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:30 PM To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com; fot@autox.team.net; Joe Alexander Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! A Gaggle, that must be an Iowa term! JVV -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:31 PM To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com ; fot@autox.team.net Cc: jeffwhall@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! 2ND......we have high potential for a gaggle of GT6s at KCUP if we can get them to Road America in September. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tylerpthompson To: fot Cc: jeffwhall Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 5:28 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! I know that Bobby and Jason could use some company. Please second this nomination for a new GT6 racer. Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his wife once owned a TR7. He bought a GT6 from Bill Fleming the beginning of this year and has been working on it to make it track ready for next year's RMVR events. I know there is a lot of talent on FOT that will benefit Jeff as well as what is detailed in Kas' last book. Ty '63 Triumph TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 08:07:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3691240558 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:07:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68EB40545 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:07:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 879E01C00027A; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.17]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 517A1E000081; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:07:17 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:07:17 -0500 (EST) To: jhhasty@gdhs.com, jerryvv@roadrunner.com, Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com, fot@autox.team.net, n197tr4@cs.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354633637; bh=WsugDZwUq3+bbU1VyXWx0azsopowxAabRhNRLRCtjOA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N/YHjwNXweds6lFQyMUYUlcGOM7x6xOb+kQ6K+Dv3TQGXXKDVuIitljrqoNVlIrFP pDK7meWIxD0sgZvtejL/cC20brRK0KXXBO+Nu1De8YQNZE6nxM1/ftOWv7Nm9o5bXj YXX9n35DB4NJ0854OcJAziVSSlFSSmGrszxSCjaQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc50be11a549d2 Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 12/04/2012 8:55:34 AM Central Standard Time, jhhasty@gdhs.com writes: > A Gaggle, that must be an Iowa term! > That won't work for GT6s. My dictionary says that a gaggle is, "a flock of geese, when not flying." TRIUMPH GT6s are always flying. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm still here! 2nd or 3rd to the Jeff and his desire to race a GT6...... sidebar, I believe my new engine is in the launch mode this month.... Bobby ________________________________ From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Cc: jeffwhall@aol.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 5:27:52 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! I know that Bobby and Jason could use some company. Please second this nomination for a new GT6 racer. Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his wife once owned a TR7. He bought a GT6 from Bill Fleming the beginning of this year and has been working on it to make it track ready for next year's RMVR events. I know there is a lot of talent on FOT that will benefit Jeff as well as what is detailed in Kas' last book. Ty '63 Triumph TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 22:12:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF5440696 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:12:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D45A40546 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:11:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 05:11:07 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.124] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 05:11:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 05:11:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 74570 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2012 05:11:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354684267; bh=fA0whEN4k3Db32EO2xsxR7vqniNmfiHpPJ9zAfebVPU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oQiY/59Wh13yyPrwQvqAfMPkn3oHrheTSDOTeAIGLuiODGRfvrYZYuJaFZRrqJ7+eLS5t8uS2gbEaUClgXnWAz9iiEQyxZGJAtTzgxA60eyXdiKwnkH8XVHmZ8W+MajEdFCgKlf0cf9a79T24h4Q9pLgG6SdIvE2QIEYITLo3jk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qOk2+Or1axCjztyhbcVZHjArLW3PTCPy4qCjyCUScBIRum46AzK8O9SBYELI2ywivhcgLwFTtBQHvJyAF6+7czgYuTxuHXkYwm0dcBjSU+/JTpDp74+HjIRHOKkfP14/rccG4e2wYn/KbJqcku7BYkB2vnYLE/PYNy3v5tSIxr0=; .sT9PswNxuFyse_x3umTLlUj74Rezlmm5CRH9IuWcSKFSSiXkS2WHy64CuGd j5Q7n9HCZ0bG4TxhGMDV51eTVWmiVfkyMmLHyCQHKUlJg2HDXRHoDwVYE52u KhmPs0mGnqe9Mw7E0LmA5f3H4dBIbTFAQy6Ma7NSWpevTw3sBddQRaYH1MNA jQquHMJfd7uq68DF6k9iy.1Zu4VNhcjwyNcyGch6jv10NZkX9DpKWN0xowW2 AU_osr2w5J73Ejg5l.ZMHlBefOmjHYQ8_CmvGDhfclm28LFNz.gY2LxvwtRX GOq_qyoag50E7pLe6L41zZobggRBgwM.LA83XpdzoRsAH9nrM9kAr3eRzj2h qFHmqzdrL3IKGXhvoveOd.6KpvLr3PIScZQhFnt5aLuUZynmjdPOSU4_TZMk r45FzihypLvcVByXZWEYmwiaIOmlimX_tjEW20Wqxci3hStqwomrgf87.YnP JneeTtwwOIsZlrmoB5CcVd7h_7pl4jX1lmWeb3819CGX5 Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:11:07 PST YmVmb3JlIHRoZXJlIHdhcyBnb29nbGUgdGhlcmUgd2FzIGdhZ2dsZS4uLi4gICdvbGQgc2tvb2wgcnVsZXMuLi4uLiAgQkdXCgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiBKZXJyeSBWYW4gVmxhY2sgPGplcnJ5dnZAcm9hZHJ1bm5lci5jb20.ClRvOiBUeWxlcnB0aG9tcHNvbkB5YWhvby5jb207IGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldDsgSm9lIEFsZXhhbmRlciA8bjE5N3RyNEBjcy5jb20.ClNlbnQ6IE1vbiwgRGVjZW1iZXIgMywgMjAxMiA2OjI5OjU3IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiABMAEBAQE- References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 21:11:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net before there was google there was gaggle.... 'old skool rules..... BGW ________________________________ From: Jerry Van Vlack To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com; fot@autox.team.net; Joe Alexander Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 6:29:57 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! A Gaggle, that must be an Iowa term! JVV -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:31 PM To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com ; fot@autox.team.net Cc: jeffwhall@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! 2ND......we have high potential for a gaggle of GT6s at KCUP if we can get them to Road America in September. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tylerpthompson To: fot Cc: jeffwhall Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 5:28 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! I know that Bobby and Jason could use some company. Please second this nomination for a new GT6 racer. Jeff caught the bug from helping Tech at RMVR events this year. He and his wife once owned a TR7. He bought a GT6 from Bill Fleming the beginning of this year and has been working on it to make it track ready for next year's RMVR events. I know there is a lot of talent on FOT that will benefit Jeff as well as what is detailed in Kas' last book. Ty '63 Triumph TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 22:19:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E1440652 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:19:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15BE40404 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:19:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B2DA138B for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:20:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:20:14 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: FoT Triumph References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <1354684267.73728.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bobby Whitehead wrote: > before there was google there was gaggle.... 'old skool rules..... > Zero Mostel - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum How many geese in a gaggle? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 05:42:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E560340654 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 05:42:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B154055E for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 05:41:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9F26D1C0000D0; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 07:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.69]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3ABD5E000081; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 07:41:37 -0500 (EST) References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <1354684267.73728.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50BED98E.60503@bradakis.com> To: mark@bradakis.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.234) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:41:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 07:41:37 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354711297; bh=reh9az+nCFS6Go/NCpH/Ic3kOCCrOFr41GKQiy3Woik=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D7ZZnpyCJI43atIX475iHcJl4EUY7eFJLc2wZ8sMhuhql18sqphkznYxaNGwoS2iL cvycZx7zmOjC2blC517OFMrnZZVbnk1ZW30THN7WEXi/bVK7KTynMw1ZCG/3aTxCNE 4lGfJtQ90nf8pIvGIIjEdqjmc08p2JT6nOPMhZIE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca50bf41015cf6 Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Federal guidelines in Civil Rights legislation for a "Riot" was "three or more"....... I suppose that the same would be for geese.... or GT6s therefore, we expect a riot at Road America Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: FoT Triumph Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:19 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Bobby Whitehead wrote: > before there was google there was gaggle.... 'old skool rules..... > Zero Mostel - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum How many geese in a gaggle? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 06:57:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228D640567 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 06:57:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f169.google.com (mail-gg0-f169.google.com [209.85.161.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C7B4055E for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 06:57:17 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-gg0-f169.google.com with SMTP id u4so869894ggl.14 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 05:57:02 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Q3IJp0DHd7F+WgeseTwtV931Sv6PJi41ewh3LEeWsM8=; b=bH8+qXjhPN0dTTQn2mqLsGwI4N9XmlP5R8vxbR5EPd5A1RprkVKPH8EmjEQXR1DkWN x3b1ICzvlbYn2rFWrOImTPNUxI6I3HBSPTiquPbHbkGmPEfxhuCQmPVvDmoLaZ9rKKKH tkyRAmszvvjuMUPyBpRI/7QLbSpvhbrzVS95Xg1TZorN/En1lvydkUuUvZ3ZXa3TczLp 06dPt7hexiGe25ETzAsaS3BDPXVWqWH8u+esq5dwDgllKU+mEGLiauzYwtJUF7LofvOI 3BaFlyP7jDLeMDOuz5OoWQDrZ32zB4qs4IDAn5MF+nqcThxDPRUcPKtIkNwooBfvGHEq mNnA== Received: by 10.236.35.209 with SMTP id u57mr19974570yha.15.1354715822515; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 05:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y9sm4617057anh.20.2012.12.05.05.57.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 05:57:02 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 07:56:52 -0600 References: <1354684172.17827.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For some reason, the picture that comes to mind is Bobby's engine sitting in the sling of a giant trebuchet, waiting to be launched over the horizon into the deep sea. Duncan On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > sidebar, I believe my new engine is in the launch mode this month.... > > > Bobby _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 07:03:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14F3406AA for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 07:03:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm60-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm60-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.121.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959A14040E for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 07:02:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm60.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 14:02:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.71] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 14:02:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 14:02:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 48319 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2012 14:02:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354716156; bh=Y16QXdE+VNgGm/QtzE4VutuXQSEm5HAAwVhaFJaaeCY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pdWrXx06qSzV7TIMsQpwuvPVkIVErBuN3CNM7n9HSha4o5hKtjQE5yQGnd6Q4Y67Zj7iFwMOgC1ktJXN3atdGp1Z4s3VzyLHiuIt9+odZVR3WVPz5tXy4qYT77AGqU+xqJotFAMNePjz2qFt0uLeetB7nR0oLByYjdxd4XknFfs= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4UGRcAR9pfhaSLIr/Xm38c9CMpsuWL+m1Trg2zURApuX79ZMVEkN89dVfFjpzi/y2We6P3Ht5B41Mzvr32egNQZN+ex467VxMRkgj7RBelMU1lHaI7QV94MBxC+VCVd8kE/QRQdSH0qxgwRnblJpP2fFYEAF7urpCtx3Eg8GjnQ=; D8v22Crd8OfzQTDAlsn4Ns0tF0sCXd5k1w_iix8YzOZn_jaAaq6SziFZxbKM QoeGQsyFrTG.pxvaeRYtl9ph3yjK2Gkl_a9Sd6dCT8gHNAKq8.FYfo.Qeg0Y g6qFw7kQR.dNgK2q3oz5SGa4EU7im5x.KLRDpe8ylbmbwNEzmQ3cVoKMVD_f gL.7hWT8uZ4My0Wto7_pAogIauseGMuCWoyAcL6zA4a1cS0yxg8NYCjOPc1J QcpIvUQVZd92L8JdtF9TzGPovl0C17DZXRt_MCmSy9TQv1eAKU2uw.yV5j3j eIAmSKWoo4AbYhI.RFDrhVVWdIG5qKipqLd96QOGJHNJBGEQSMSiq4dIeiZj Njo4EL8J_hfzQnXdR.0K906aWB7Aqf5Hk6mmrhKTJtpiEtS8bejKeQ.esBu7 DzmMM6QCESpmWeaSlAN8pzWIsy9qOLzQvmXnFDYlRVOwmAW7QlESaK4x3P4C YO8zNNn0k82A1o5YSHNKBevicY9OzLqllfqy5vX44pkAo_AI- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 06:02:36 PST DQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KwqANCsKgDQoNCsKgDQoNCg0KDQoNCkkgYW0gcHJvdWQgdG8gY2FsbCB5b3UgQnJvdGhlci4gDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQpZb3UgbWF5IGhhdmUgc2VydmVkIGluIENvbWJhdCBvciBpbiBub24tY29tYmF0Lg0KDQoNCllvdSBtYXkgaGF2ZSByZXRpcmVkIG91dCBvciB5b3UgbWF5IGhhdmUgc2VydmVkIGZvciBhIHNob3J0IHRpbWUsIFlvdSBtYXkgaGF2ZSBiZWVuIGEgZHJhZnRlZSBvciBhIHZvbHVudGVlci4gWW91IG1heSBoYXZlIHNlcnZlZCBpbiABMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 06:02:36 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Band of Brothers Day Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am proud to call you Brother. You may have served in Combat or in non-combat. You may have retired out or you may have served for a short time, You may have been a draftee or a volunteer. You may have served in the Corps, Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard or the Merchant Marines, BUT YOU SERVED. YOU DID YOUR JOB HONORABLY and for that I am PROUD to call you Brother. You may have served during Korea, WWII, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Iraq or Afghanistan, But you served, you did not run. You have a DD 214 with those words "HONORABLY DISCHARGED" two of the most noble words in the world. Again I am proud to know each and every one of you. *Today is Band of Brothers' Day; Send this to all your brothers, fathers, sons and fellow veterans you know. Happy Brothers' Day! To the cool men that have touched my life: Here's to you!! I was never a hero, but I am thankful and proud to have served among them. A real Brother walks with you when the rest of the world walks on you. Send to all your Band of Brothers, because the fake ones won't. __._,_.___ Bill (Chief) Deal "Post 655, where heroes gather". _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 10:29:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B7C40694 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:29:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD4640414 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:29:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 17:29:18 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.117] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 17:29:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 17:29:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 63138 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2012 17:29:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354728557; bh=Xoc2C0rV6D1fu6haE8omCjw+NTgfRWxtLhW9PasSXDo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j1ViDmO9ODPC9bKj1lUWMlPUXgE26uIqJDPUnvu13dG4j/p7FpyiAjDzsw6Sbl56jC8KWQHwmaTiJmZVJvqqjl78Q8/8L7EYKX7yjvkk3oVB24s7kBCrWE+HqG6wczNqztnoS95DKrPQz4kAvfsAJ2HL/GzCut8BLhKj/zCcqxo= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tMzmflIQYY5MD01NCl6MTmNhVd28EPCxukhoVvK3lUdPdFM2LGSp8NmrHY3E5IK6mcF4f3R3beRzv1ry2+EbQDaOhPVk60MG8ErjuMZXeb6YeLq67UjilFEOHN+Hy5yYwUe0SblcwbK2lQ9Qgk+E64hbzRGtMu59Oxq6JxvIr6g=; V5yxUmWkYwZ_K_c72Kl5bQUNhjeJ64fL8gbezy_gacbbqylsOiyTleYESRqf rbYQyA9pm7Utu._lT14pXm1paV0aEsPQk3Oy073TzW.lwzytBys7UC4127le Bx0QlY7PLEl2JyalvVfmD5Hoeykv4EM3JVHKdPF_RpccsS.H8Sz7sR7FiYLl NIOtMk_smnQ71RNLJgnB659usN7Pg4w6gbyQizT956ULlT2tkBm7CMqK7eLl XP66qFQHLYCz36Bd3BGIMrJk4dG4F6g9k_NdJN8.b1oPxGatmJhZk3Umv2zg 24irwF7SlwAGibly6hkb96.mc9dyHI1p750Io1fMdE.FPM.grMZ3Bl8pw3g7 0zqB3V6D5Rv4ylv2T2jJ.fKnD8MUmMqaXgVDX7psm0bUIgTdpsJsuUi5r9ex sTYB8sCWBxktXcZPabwB95j7l9cDGHqo6xmjr5g3ELJlarsKKjcCq4aiK4HZ XPKnSqrClqLD4RxQ1.8sTcutncLWobSXMTrcgqGiQ7stR Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:29:17 PST aSBkdW5uby4uLi4uLnVubGVzcyB0aGVyZSBpcyBhIGZyZWUgYmVlciBsaW5lLi4uLiAgQm9iYnkKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206IEpvZSBBbGV4YW5kZXIgPG4xOTd0cjRAY3MuY29tPgpUbzogbWFya0BicmFkYWtpcy5jb207IGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldApTZW50OiBXZWQsIERlY2VtYmVyIDUsIDIwMTIgNjo0MjowMCBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW0ZvdF0gTm9taW5hdGlvbiBmb3IgYSBOZXcgR1Q2IFJhY2VyIQoKRmVkZXJhbCBndWlkZWxpbmVzIGluIENpdmkBMAEBAQE- References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <1354684267.73728.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50BED98E.60503@bradakis.com> <8CFA0FCFFEBC7A3-978-A734@webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:29:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Joe Alexander Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net i dunno......unless there is a free beer line.... Bobby ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: mark@bradakis.com; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 6:42:00 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Federal guidelines in Civil Rights legislation for a "Riot" was "three or more"....... I suppose that the same would be for geese.... or GT6s therefore, we expect a riot at Road America Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: FoT Triumph Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:19 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Bobby Whitehead wrote: > before there was google there was gaggle.... 'old skool rules..... > Zero Mostel - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum How many geese in a gaggle? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 10:35:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC5E406B6 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:35:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s18.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s18.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB01340653 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:35:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT403-EAS482 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s18.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:34:46 -0800 References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <1354684267.73728.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50BED98E.60503@bradakis.com> <8CFA0FCFFEBC7A3-978-A734@webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com> <1354728557.30604.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Vince G Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 12:34:48 -0500 To: Bobby Whitehead FILETIME=[D1EBB220:01CDD30E] Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I wish I could participate in the GT6 "riot" perhaps in a year or two. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-05, at 12:29 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: > i dunno......unless there is a free beer line.... Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: mark@bradakis.com; fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 6:42:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! > > Federal guidelines in Civil Rights legislation for a "Riot" was "three or > more"....... > > I suppose that the same would be for geese.... > > or GT6s > > therefore, we expect a riot at Road America > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: FoT Triumph > Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:19 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! > > > Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> before there was google there was gaggle.... 'old skool rules..... > Zero Mostel - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum > > How many geese in a gaggle? > > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 10:38:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAB5406B2 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:38:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989B740653 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:37:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.147] by nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 17:37:13 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.97] by tm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 17:37:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2012 17:37:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 93563 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2012 17:37:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354729032; bh=2CJaLDBHXBVTdMIwdRlef7qz1NxOhvoxmzN829Db644=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pRI9pS7QCAfWsaPLEceK7Vi91vn0yyWEQofvpKPohqTsunT1mJMz7Lht2iyChe9smSUrXhRgbAM0P5G6EB+SsJ5r7TjyW+dPQ9IYt3E3D6BsE3guGkGKc7vSNsfV0xgwTSsZxEk1JAwIfIrYcv55Z7CUZRoCbqBDGzYlnZNVptg= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=u6SZlhL9oYwQl+hnWJtQh4wmHi84Ab/LTuJmWZpvQroV2HDE7T+9YrSYYvphQdz3sdJag8/dpeTKp9pA9vpZHEkOChi/qAkPuHKSopaIdLwowRs6bh3/wP1Cw7iamHm+gYq2tlYwClubnddk2/YdJEh9GIheU0+S1xP6C+mNbNY=; Uc8MmBoe5B6niF1yzPorGi39_yJMtaqQ3LPPXIqpfZjqm.UXtcKkr4LC5Ncj XQDC2ZDdX1sRQ.hyqKvo.xjDSMuwbXyCXywUTgDEsHUn_muMjZoaqbN_Qia9 rfhKra6.PDxTDlEvo7MjglH4LrkrH.y5Gjq2w1Znr5ewgbBfC6ZAvznsyMgZ SyVMPM20Bvvi3aIvlCsnbeJXBS9B1.gmru3M3BtWQqpm2TmsnYPAoxAM1g1I _SCGRX3StlfXg.ilY9FtD_n7PNdingI7iXTPLvoaH2u_7cAhoS.u6EywZFB8 JXUK8ZZBNUCGEOO6aYnQUqTd00NxBcX8mE6aLM3ejPFtF0NZqyVmmCEepjGc oTjDmys0lmlaDDzwBxX.WI9Sg2u7.mImY8uYxz9xTXAXNHRbyZnJllMX2LaE - Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:37:12 PST dGhlIG9uZSBJIGJsZXcgdXAgaW4gQXRsYW50YSB3b3VsZCBtYWtlIGEgbmljZSBrZXJwbHVzaC4uLi4gICB0aGF0J3MgdGhlIHNvdW5kIAppdCB3b3VsZCBtYWtlIGFzIGl0IGxhbmRzIGluIHRoZSBkZWVwIHNlYS4uLi4gSSBndWVzcyBJJ2xsIGtlZXAgaXQgZm9yIAptZW1vcmllcy4uLi4KSSd2ZSBzaGVkIGFsbCB0aGUgdGVhcnMgSSBjYW4gb3ZlciB0aGF0ICwgYW5kIGF0IHRoaXMgdGltZSwgSSBtdXN0IHdpdGggYWxsIApzaW5jZXJpdHkgdGhhbmsgdGhlIEYuby5ULiBjb250aW5nZW50LCBlc3BlY2lhbGwBMAEBAQE- References: <1354684172.17827.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:37:12 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Duncan Charlton Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net the one I blew up in Atlanta would make a nice kerplush.... that's the sound it would make as it lands in the deep sea.... I guess I'll keep it for memories.... I've shed all the tears I can over that , and at this time, I must with all sincerity thank the F.o.T. contingent, especially Henry, for keeping me grounded in the 'big picture'....it's amazing.. we run one weekend together (okay that's optimistic) ((I'm a rose colored glasses, the glass is half full guy)) and we are friends for life... isn't THAT the essence of our brother and sisterhood with F.o.T. and vintage racing? God bless all my bro's and lady friends on F.o.T..... it's not about common sense, it's about the emotion... and emotion over-rules common sense in my book.... Peace be with you and yours.... Bobby Whitehead and Family.... ________________________________ From: Duncan Charlton To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 7:57:08 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! For some reason, the picture that comes to mind is Bobby's engine sitting in the sling of a giant trebuchet, waiting to be launched over the horizon into the deep sea. Duncan On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > sidebar, I believe my new engine is in the launch mode this month.... > > > Bobby _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 10:59:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FEA4068D for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:59:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00DB4054D for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:59:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3D74838000220; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 12:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EA963E00008A; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 12:58:59 -0500 (EST) References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <1354684267.73728.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50BED98E.60503@bradakis.com> <8CFA0FCFFEBC7A3-978-A734@webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com> <1354728557.30604.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: vangoughv@hotmail.com, igofaster@att.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.234) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:58:59 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 12:58:59 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354730340; bh=XgtUU9ZJgPgKehCdIpA1k3+JB9uhS4vhhZLp5LaCc1w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cLLoXWrBcoR5c5yPZJt8Y2BnYq2aERGW7rNNV1rMhFgl9U+nFZDr9TH/FnA8Ah4qO JZ9I1CLBApjz2ZANEYM5BwPWDjja3bggIQHTXEXVaakAofgUDZU97Vl2sA2rdEYtfZ GPrP9He0vXY2COQrox0auQPdfLMWqlfrq31hfRkM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50bf8b634b08 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Can you attend? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Vince G To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: Joe Alexander ; FoT Triumph Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:55 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! I wish I could participate in the GT6 "riot" perhaps in a year or two. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-05, at 12:29 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: > i dunno......unless there is a free beer line.... Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: mark@bradakis.com; fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 6:42:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! > > Federal guidelines in Civil Rights legislation for a "Riot" was "three or > more"....... > > I suppose that the same would be for geese.... > > or GT6s > > therefore, we expect a riot at Road America > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: FoT Triumph > Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:19 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! > > > Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> before there was google there was gaggle.... 'old skool rules..... > Zero Mostel - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum > > How many geese in a gaggle? > > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 11:18:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5245040E20 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 11:18:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C984054D for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 11:18:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qB5II1GL002174; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:18:08 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , , References: <8CF9FC574E25B5F-CB8-48E0D@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com><1354684267.73728.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><50BED98E.60503@bradakis.com><8CFA0FCFFEBC7A3-978-A734@webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com><1354728557.30604.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <8CFA12955FC7F25-978-D8F1@webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:18:01 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3TEkEtglJymT37TA+D3TgeFKs21gAAkZRg a=O3qRGFz0ioIA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=UQKB7xKth7NpSGGLe-oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=T1jTriLPLxoA:10 a=hDRbxuIfNQ93RLd7:21 a=Rhf3TIqpaqRQNDsZ:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good Grief you guys. A gaggle is at least 5 geese unless, of course, they are flying then they are a Skein and can include any number of 5 or more. PS: Bobby, there's a free beer line at the VDCA event in Savannah this weekend.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:59 PM To: vangoughv@hotmail.com; igofaster@att.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! Can you attend? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Vince G To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: Joe Alexander ; FoT Triumph Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:55 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! I wish I could participate in the GT6 "riot" perhaps in a year or two. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-05, at 12:29 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: > i dunno......unless there is a free beer line.... Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: mark@bradakis.com; fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 6:42:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! > > Federal guidelines in Civil Rights legislation for a "Riot" was "three > or more"....... > > I suppose that the same would be for geese.... > > or GT6s > > therefore, we expect a riot at Road America > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: FoT Triumph > Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:19 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for a New GT6 Racer! > > > Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> before there was google there was gaggle.... 'old skool rules..... > Zero Mostel - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum > > How many geese in a gaggle? > > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 13:56:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A073440E32 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:56:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B6F40E1F for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:54:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F2D711C000120 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dgb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dgb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.229.77]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C8592E000086 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:54:27 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: jeffwhall@aol.com Received: from 65.183.72.34 by webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.131) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:54:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:54:27 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354740867; bh=ZiQafVvV6U5wpvTMG7N827e1BxWGvLb14wVTreCAaUQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w40/B8sb8aAvlryb7+B9ceY7C39+vZkjtLZ2JhKGqdfSecDzKrTJYe83xBvcvrLs4 3O2cW8/a1VIsCriO+d6AyITcJXpvh61uWcnGGtlz7EioUTy8G1PIGIwhcgR6JFvdUJ OkItivfn4iIxI+YWAaNzJMa4BZXfIQAhcy/0fp4g= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc50bfb48357fe Subject: [Fot] Thank you Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello everyone, Thank you for welcoming me into your fold of GT6 racers. Officially, I am not a licensed racer yet as the car is still in the troughs of being built and assembled. My goal is to have it completed by April so I can drive it at the competiotion driving school sponsored by RMVR at Pikes Peak International Raceway. I am intreguied by the gathering of GT6 racers for a race weekend. Can someone provide me more info on that event? I am looking forward to corresponding with each of you and to learn about these great cars. Jeff Hall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 14:22:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7519140696 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:22:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4388040546 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:21:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8FB981C0000E6 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 55846E000086; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:21:38 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFA141D94D82A8-1B88-CA55@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> To: jeffwhall@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.234) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:21:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:21:38 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354742498; bh=DpkCecztLAlzFkkAsPq6QN4PDbcujdQA5VeDMXvPGaI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AOLzddQg2wC/oVk15sykZ7uZ/ecss0SKscCp8BuuA4OtT9fFp/vfQv0xg97LvoBRz 31LQoav8alPyRWHwFxqIbjNNuE/T9VRmgpAZAhHtIs5d6ZOM0T+TpLXGY1+DKTru/0 PXI/g0Qqe+1j+18BlNVgctwgVwSdbEhx8B9VAQOw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c750bfbae22c33 Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you .....Now ROAD AMERICA'S KASTNER CUP. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff, The 'gathering' we are talking about is THE KASTNER CUP-THE 11TH RUNNING of this event. We are hoping that you RMVR guys will attend, regardless of their ability to bring cars. This will be VSCDA's ELKHART LAKE VINTAGE FESTIVAL 5-8 September, 2013. It will have entries from all over North America. It appears we will have 6-8 guests from Europe at this point. We will have SCCA champions and ex-factory drivers, etc as special guests. TRIUMPH is the featured MARQUE and KAS KASTNER is the GRAND MARSHAL. The Osthoff is our HOST HOTEL with generous discounting. 1-2-3 Bedroom Suites are available and are very cost effective when shared by friends and couples. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: jeffwhall To: fot Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 2:56 pm Subject: [Fot] Thank you Hello everyone, Thank you for welcoming me into your fold of GT6 racers. Officially, I am not a licensed racer yet as the car is still in the troughs of being built and assembled. My goal is to have it completed by April so I can drive it at the competiotion driving school sponsored by RMVR at Pikes Peak International Raceway. I am intreguied by the gathering of GT6 racers for a race weekend. Can someone provide me more info on that event? I am looking forward to corresponding with each of you and to learn about these great cars. Jeff Hall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 18:12:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9C640E5F for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:12:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67F140E2B for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:12:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [71.171.28.217]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MEL00GOU4NTROK1@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:11:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:13:38 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: robertten1@aol.com References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> <50BD41B5.1090603@blacksburg.net> <8CFA0A5C79D9874-1FD0-7926@webmail-m007.sysops.aol.com> Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Tachometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 12/4/2012 9:17 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: > Jim, > I'm curious ... did she reuse the factory dial face and pointer ? I > was told by Nissonger that they would not be able to reuse my tachs > needle during the conversion process. > Cheers, > Bob T Hey Bob, Yes, she did use the same face, needle and case. You can't tell that it's been converted (until you look in the engine bay and see no tach cable :-) ) Another feature I really like is that it seems (seat of pants observation, not empirical) to track RPMs more closely. She said that her tech guy removed some of the material off the back of the needle for improved response. I've seen some tachs seem to be still spinning up as the engine spins down. Hmmm. NFI, etc. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 18:46:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE90740E64 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:46:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC6F40E11 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:46:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 01:45:53 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.114] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 01:45:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 01:45:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 36267 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2012 01:45:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354758352; bh=lKyKV1r6aptk5pofyS67zusSquAV/36vNjSa1ADowTE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jrhAX6aq2LTwuKIuVcbO37dMwaZcNg5Iuqla+bm9cvl/pOkZgRbZlO58n2I68qkiOfbB4LYz+4BV4gATxoRpnWZTljyjVN+4MJY7U30/uWxN9fzbNODY+ruEK70WjKusopoQC+9z+H+kdcu2Y6b8EwedH7rDMrTf3N9JhXiNctE= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BTiPPgIXMS16V2YYE0mnz3wymMteSoMtNqvPg0a9r1rIcDPLaZo67sNd0GgwqM02USrpGvp/x41Vmp8KaKrIskg4OfnxQM0Oi2C8aY9tOtug2CbCJ+HxlD5CqsPv2uMMwQuV7RqZ7DRY/rdvEqJKHMBGo/8cerDmgcmtcVj71p0=; Het_kMT17QDGE51JXsyjMVNTEBBPIgst0exhSVcWT5q3I5QQNr4j7pK6iyJH 04LIAEcwNqkX.KlqpAkWnihPtdv6.ZYHwrlqrdLtO5R1kFUIPB7zoVxhtqmC P2T0hYtwUUixBNbTx5mElAAw9ZQNnsPsKPElS91H5KcZSa47ZhhrKu82ebIg fO.1pILfStbe98NNtE1R298KYZaeAGL3zWbUFHSIYw_nQDi5PHppaAB7JO1v 4bzM0_.kB.EaAEjNcLR26nPsneG5Wr1ijf7hbi0ziID037wxkOSPA2f_AjMP B1qceC_ZNTzCkL_oB7at3PBSCsZq.9nC8uaF3YYxYVw1MwpHym595ysYKnlj 0aCCwoTrIZHsjb6JxX7mqP_WwFkWKiCe3aKyWqwnmXlxkWiCrVfZkWR2RwNg uB786OwaXd_4x3154sR7Uf6uyzywNx8VxnGj18Rfpn0ivEotD7MBoF0_ryCY 2_D55Mcw- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:45:52 PST aWYgdHdvIEdUNidzIHNob3cgdXAgaW4gYSBXYWxtYXJ0IHBhcmtpbmcgbG90LCB0aGF0IGlzIGFuIGV2ZW50Li4uIGlmIHR3byBvciAKdGhyZWUgIHNob3cgdXAgdG8gYSByYWNlIHdlZWtlbmQsIHRoYXQgaXMgc3RlbGxhciAuLi4uICBlaXRoZXIgd2F5LCBsb25nIG92ZXIgCmxvb2tlZCBiZWF1dHkgb2YgdGhlIFRyaXVtcGggTWFycXVlIC4KCkJvYmJ5IFdoaXRlaGVhZAoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogImplZmZ3aGFsbEBhb2wuY29tIiA8amVmZndoYWxsQGFvbC4BMAEBAQE- References: <8CFA141D94D82A8-1B88-CA55@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:45:52 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: jeffwhall@aol.com Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net if two GT6's show up in a Walmart parking lot, that is an event... if two or three show up to a race weekend, that is stellar .... either way, long over looked beauty of the Triumph Marque . Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "jeffwhall@aol.com" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 2:56:42 PM Subject: [Fot] Thank you Hello everyone, Thank you for welcoming me into your fold of GT6 racers. Officially, I am not a licensed racer yet as the car is still in the troughs of being built and assembled. My goal is to have it completed by April so I can drive it at the competiotion driving school sponsored by RMVR at Pikes Peak International Raceway. I am intreguied by the gathering of GT6 racers for a race weekend. Can someone provide me more info on that event? I am looking forward to corresponding with each of you and to learn about these great cars. Jeff Hall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 19:04:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED94640E5D for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 19:04:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D0E40E11 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 19:04:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1C5FC1C000077; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D0953E000085; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:03:56 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFA141D94D82A8-1B88-CA55@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1354758352.10804.YahooMailRC@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: igofaster@att.net, jeffwhall@aol.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d148.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.38) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 21:03:56 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:03:56 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354759437; bh=MxcGCPR3REBRBTgypMrczxFj62jJi9snG1XZMvJy6uo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CyWK7FePCWZ1kWbvC3LLVBgUY+nwxYGdfPSEZbYpa0mIK5shdCU3hWXB4mLazu48L 5quR/7lQy3x4MEuOoSuZGpO+qvQfLO3jJc7KIrGav4XNWOzFM+v7cxQseCCyURU3In /uDPl+NELvG4R3kcTPP0kofazYRH8YNPRu7bzjFk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc50bffd0c4477 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you KCUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It would be good to promote GT6s and Spitfires to be at this event. I have invited the publisher and editor of SPITFIRE & GT6 magazine to join us. I fully expect one or both of them to join us. It wouldnt hurt to see some street machines there, too. Jason, Andre,....etc? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: jeffwhall Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:46 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you if two GT6's show up in a Walmart parking lot, that is an event... if two or three show up to a race weekend, that is stellar .... either way, long over looked beauty of the Triumph Marque . Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: "jeffwhall@aol.com" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 2:56:42 PM Subject: [Fot] Thank you Hello everyone, Thank you for welcoming me into your fold of GT6 racers. Officially, I am not a licensed racer yet as the car is still in the troughs of being built and assembled. My goal is to have it completed by April so I can drive it at the competiotion driving school sponsored by RMVR at Pikes Peak International Raceway. I am intreguied by the gathering of GT6 racers for a race weekend. Can someone provide me more info on that event? I am looking forward to corresponding with each of you and to learn about these great cars. Jeff Hall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 20:06:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A981E40E33 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:06:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6338540E2B for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:06:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121206030551.MGED10143.mta41.charter.net@imp11>; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:05:51 -0500 Received: from wt06 ([209.225.8.46]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id Y35r1k0020zbdDt0535roY; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:05:51 -0500 cv=Agrl9JAs5+GZar64di+3zu8XOh97iO5Qaqn/xe6For4= c=1 sm=1 a=nwzAdnQqRigA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=AfIhMNxZNJ8A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=H/ChNF21VkLCmbaXJ0ibkQ==:17 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=54wRP-io4hmbm8EzgGUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=H/ChNF21VkLCmbaXJ0ibkQ==:117 Received: from [68.191.155.46] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:05:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:05:51 -0500 (EST) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: Joe Alexander User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you KCUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe and "Friends"--Check out great article in DaecClassic Mororsports about VSCR's guru Pat Starr- 50 years with the same Morgan! Also some notes on the Mitty. John Hagen On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > It would be good to promote GT6s and Spitfires to be at this event. > > I have invited the publisher and editor of SPITFIRE & GT6 magazine to > join us. > I fully expect one or both of them to join us. It wouldnt hurt to see > some > street machines there, too. Jason, Andre,....etc? > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bobby Whitehead > To: jeffwhall > Cc: FoT Triumph > Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:46 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you > > > if two GT6's show up in a Walmart parking lot, that is an event... if > two or > three show up to a race weekend, that is stellar .... either way, > long over > looked beauty of the Triumph Marque . > > Bobby Whitehead > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "jeffwhall@aol.com" > To: fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 2:56:42 PM > Subject: [Fot] Thank you > > Hello everyone, > > Thank you for welcoming me into your fold of GT6 racers. Officially, I > am not > a licensed racer yet as the car is still in the troughs of being built > and > assembled. My goal is to have it completed by April so I can drive it > at the > competiotion driving school sponsored by RMVR at Pikes Peak > International > Raceway. > > I am intreguied by the gathering of GT6 racers for a race weekend. Can > someone > provide me more info on that event? > > I am looking forward to corresponding with each of you and to learn > about > these great cars. > > Jeff Hall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 20:13:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB9B40E5D for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:13:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061DB40E2B for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:13:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B364C1C00010F; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6EF9EE000089; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:12:58 -0500 (EST) References: <7fa93096.21624b.13b6e2d26e2.Webtop.46@charter.net> To: jkhagen@charter.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d148.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.38) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:12:57 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:12:57 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354763578; bh=poFJfkDUhi1kedAtoK7aEyufz5RgAj4jElWv+3UtkfI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R85UX7I/HiOcdGfHzuVOInv9h2NMhbf/nZ8/GfZGXvNMHvlUIwmV3YXFYR3ITe42x Sk8KUvJ1sDcdte5SCBB285Y2QCq2RVT1uvXAAowaomyIZcecZO87MTl/HLUI1fSnzk nar21a7eJ0svZPFckdnH5Z8ZtAxvdPMvsSyvEyZg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294850c00d3a3fb5 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you KCUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes! And there is a side bar on John Hagen and a TR4. Good for CMS.....Giving our 'Friends' some positive credit. Thanks John....... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: jkhagen To: Joe Alexander Cc: igofaster ; jeffwhall ; fot Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:05 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you KCUP 2013 Joe and "Friends"--Check out great article in DaecClassic Mororsports about VSCR's guru Pat Starr- 50 years with the same Morgan! Also some notes on the Mitty. John Hagen On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > It would be good to promote GT6s and Spitfires to be at this event. > > I have invited the publisher and editor of SPITFIRE & GT6 magazine to > join us. > I fully expect one or both of them to join us. It wouldnt hurt to see > some > street machines there, too. Jason, Andre,....etc? > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bobby Whitehead > To: jeffwhall > Cc: FoT Triumph > Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:46 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Thank you > > > if two GT6's show up in a Walmart parking lot, that is an event... if > two or > three show up to a race weekend, that is stellar .... either way, > long over > looked beauty of the Triumph Marque . > > Bobby Whitehead > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "jeffwhall@aol.com" > To: fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 2:56:42 PM > Subject: [Fot] Thank you > > Hello everyone, > > Thank you for welcoming me into your fold of GT6 racers. Officially, I > am not > a licensed racer yet as the car is still in the troughs of being built > and > assembled. My goal is to have it completed by April so I can drive it > at the > competiotion driving school sponsored by RMVR at Pikes Peak > International > Raceway. > > I am intreguied by the gathering of GT6 racers for a race weekend. Can > someone > provide me more info on that event? > > I am looking forward to corresponding with each of you and to learn > about > these great cars. > > Jeff Hall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 5 23:33:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B5540E4C for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 23:33:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3961E40E33 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 23:33:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 06:33:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.74] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 06:33:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 06:33:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 50118 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2012 06:33:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354775593; bh=5QW2h4WtSIZN5NV53IUyA98t9nM5bQF4dgya3aekUbc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zJj+xvIUTQ2Tn9Wkh0ORR8CmH08PbbC5BYhB5+cL9Ny2s+TIuX/Xfr0oHeYVMKWFdC6dSaH7XM7BO1Xns/AgvBE2qzK1zmM/7v6/bUnZxoSUWpteLPjXAHKPmqCbFzAeIQUxlHvW6Zw8bI20anMcMrsv/orwSi6RdSO/lsk4Lvg= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5KNPY4AxaGA+UnqteXWqEIMaT/cNK6Q/MZnaOdgDC0AhM00OLU3y3esQVX/unF3eXk7eCM5Xp/iBXxXTGi/K3l/1BP23oROefbAY87KHs8jZ1CWVW7RjKFhK1yDmQb60OU2xjQqAjI9eSiZZVp+yjWMO3LHR3qwRcsrLb1R1THo=; _GFx4.ABzoJSuNkfkT2XY46lTvguFLrCPHu5OLI5posy3awbKNLw_avo_DAT V4eF7C6g25GxtXsRpH.GbE8oYUl8evDmxCdQMww6454cfYlt.sJqMyEHs_Pu HpAAD6xbw82lsYQg3xPjidRrbUrzrMwpJNt14rF7mxhygPCVfDCrasxs6jr2 BP7CZd3TS5.p_UwFuiqOZB.Su9PMXlGejtrH4KD8jYsx.BecTIBGY71aJ1Ft njnTpSmZ..SGiKbNfvzBMB4cyXpc0IIZjQyeK_O9y3yrjOOQLRLXZUl1o3Yg QEEghY6qoBfEcXLoPH9RO3ymDTAW1mnFkajnBt8ijglkI4FBdcEeQxTOUBYY XJGPJcG5pMee1H3ExjiRFr02LFkg6MuZxXjqOl6ir87yUYW.AZi.4tczDLZm Y5yS.4A0DUmd1FKAIjlxIhWs5ozQmnnb. Received: from [67.195.23.210] by web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:33:13 PST QW55IHRob3VnaHRzIG9uIHdoZXRoZXIgb3Igbm90IHRob3NlIGFsdW1pbnVtIGN1cHMgb24gdGhlIHJlYXIgZGlmZiBtb3VudHMgCmltcHJvdmUgYSBjYXIncyBwZXJmb3JtYW5jZT_CoCBBbnkgdGhvdWdodHMgb24gaG93IHRoZXNlIGN1cHMgY29tcGFyZSB0byB1c2luZyAKdXJldGhhbmUgYW5kIGlzIGl0IGZlYXNpYmxlIHRvIHJ1biB1cmV0aGFuZSBmb3IgcmVhciBkaWZmIG1vdW50cyBhbmQgcnViYmVyIGZvciAKZnJvbnQgZGlmZiBtb3VudHM_wqAgVGhhbmtzLCBKaW0BMAEBAQE- References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:33:13 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: "" Subject: [Fot] Aluminum cups on TR6 diff mounts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Any thoughts on whether or not those aluminum cups on the rear diff mounts improve a car's performance? Any thoughts on how these cups compare to using urethane and is it feasible to run urethane for rear diff mounts and rubber for front diff mounts? Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 04:29:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A55D40E4B for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 04:29:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11B540E3F for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 04:29:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 07A2F380008CA; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 06:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D073BE000081; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 06:24:49 -0500 (EST) References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> <1354775593.46945.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: sherryjimmy6116@att.net, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com (64.12.141.18) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 06 Dec 2012 06:24:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 06:24:49 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354793089; bh=imNoPahcqraPDilz/Q8eAMLFPVLlG7gZNxkTqrGcR+U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YjXKiXuzoOCxrnIKewvAYrvrF+EqejR9wTjFyhepQIXg9ULIB4VMLickHUzQJVIRs 6fYAEm/GwCCf9Wb0foNb2fuW06nUPsbxMvKbOgb0VZGZau3hwt383pflZniqpf2QYJ wSiEPOdM+VpPeiB2Q9rxXaHH9014ZeyWFj0Gd9j8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294850c080810d09 Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum cups on TR6 diff mounts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Brits run rubber in combination with these 'Differential Stabilizers'. It supports the rubber further and ostensibly keeps the dif from moving around. I checked and verified with Jon Wood when Keith Files and he were my guests here in Jesup. He indicated that this was pretty much SOP in the UK for racing TR6s I have them on the shelf. TRF has them. They are getting popular with the street TR6s instead of the harsher urethane, which provides less noise and vibration isolation. And they should take some of the stress off of the mounts. I have no direct experience with them, myself, but ship them on a regular basis. BTW, Jon Wood, Simon Watson, and Keith Files will be our guests at KCUP 2013. They are great sources of information on what the Brits are doing in the UK. Jon is an ace wrench, Simon is parts manager for TR Enterprises, and Keith drives a very fast TR6 in the U.K. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: sherry robyn To: Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:34 am Subject: [Fot] Aluminum cups on TR6 diff mounts Any thoughts on whether or not those aluminum cups on the rear diff mounts improve a car's performance? Any thoughts on how these cups compare to using urethane and is it feasible to run urethane for rear diff mounts and rubber for front diff mounts? Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 07:41:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53EB40E6B for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 07:41:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5DD40E48 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 07:40:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1FBD01C0001C4; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mta003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.137]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C6AB8E000087; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:40:34 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:40:34 -0500 (EST) To: n197tr4@cs.com, sherryjimmy6116@att.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354804835; bh=Ps/ixC3liKEHaXOboER514Gc/cNJ3vqDNWj8UtMIDUY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bFyEggGnQ49CWA4QUo6V8G4J6X8Rm6kiqUfDjRxfJFCw/igrsvzVwLpqt3Rw9Tfl5 SRe4cftq98H33bYM0Rq0Qg8zGFi7trJLfht8yOh8AyBUxol/jBekZoeh/zc0e9XVIZ F8S+zlFcBLM5UMEA/5oVpka1RoOqMCyGErNFsL1s= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b50c0ae626731 Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum cups on TR6 diff mounts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 12/06/2012 5:29:26 AM Central Standard Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > BTW, Jon Wood, Simon Watson, and Keith Files will be our guests at KCUP > 2013. > They are great sources of information on what the Brits are doing in the > UK. > Jon is an ace wrench, Simon is parts manager for TR Enterprises, and Keith > drives a very fast TR6 in the U.K. > Not to mention, JON WOOD is one of the world's premier Party Blokes. Smiles abound, wherever he goes. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 09:08:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6AB40E6B for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:08:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C624540E57 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:08:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qB6G8O2a031935; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:08:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:08:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: BillDentin@aol.com References: <55c1.7400f7f6.3df20862@aol.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum cups on TR6 diff mounts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hmmm, reminds me of the 2002 FOT gathering. The Brits came by a certain camper and when it was offered that beer was available, but not refrigerated... it was determined that lack of refrigeration was no problem and all the beer was quickly consumed. Like two cases worth. Yee ha! rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/06/2012 5:29:26 AM Central Standard Time, > n197tr4@cs.com writes: > > >> BTW, Jon Wood, Simon Watson, and Keith Files will be our guests at KCUP >> 2013. >> They are great sources of information on what the Brits are doing in the >> UK. >> Jon is an ace wrench, Simon is parts manager for TR Enterprises, and Keith >> drives a very fast TR6 in the U.K. >> > > Not to mention, JON WOOD is one of the world's premier Party Blokes. > Smiles abound, wherever he goes. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang@isis.mit.edu _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 09:26:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FB440E5E for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:26:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A514A40E59 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:26:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 10:26:03 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Joe Alexander' , "'fot@autox.team.net'" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Aluminum cups on TR6 diff mounts Thread-Index: AQHN03un7yflpTQDa0mYvOqj86+xOZgMBjiA///vV6A= Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:26:02 +0000 References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> <1354775593.46945.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA1BB701DCCDA-D48-17B7@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum cups on TR6 diff mounts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net << BTW, Jon Wood, Simon Watson, and Keith Files will be our guests at KCUP 2013. >> And the lovely Denise? She's a lot of fun and would be missed. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:25 AM To: sherryjimmy6116@att.net; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum cups on TR6 diff mounts The Brits run rubber in combination with these 'Differential Stabilizers'. It supports the rubber further and ostensibly keeps the dif from moving around. I checked and verified with Jon Wood when Keith Files and he were my guests here in Jesup. He indicated that this was pretty much SOP in the UK for racing TR6s I have them on the shelf. TRF has them. They are getting popular with the street TR6s instead of the harsher urethane, which provides less noise and vibration isolation. And they should take some of the stress off of the mounts. I have no direct experience with them, myself, but ship them on a regular basis. BTW, Jon Wood, Simon Watson, and Keith Files will be our guests at KCUP 2013. They are great sources of information on what the Brits are doing in the UK. Jon is an ace wrench, Simon is parts manager for TR Enterprises, and Keith drives a very fast TR6 in the U.K. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: sherry robyn To: Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:34 am Subject: [Fot] Aluminum cups on TR6 diff mounts Any thoughts on whether or not those aluminum cups on the rear diff mounts improve a car's performance? Any thoughts on how these cups compare to using urethane and is it feasible to run urethane for rear diff mounts and rubber for front diff mounts? Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 09:47:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7647C40E92 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:47:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B82140E58 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:47:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BF5CA1C000187; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 549E0E000086; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:47:20 -0500 (EST) References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> <1354775593.46945.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA1BB701DCCDA-D48-17B7@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E7F7CFD@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com (64.12.141.18) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 06 Dec 2012 11:47:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:47:20 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354812440; bh=X6rq4U3w/St9k2CjWenxWTZEbwXoTXgeSURVKhZtBW8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CT9SqfAS2vVp3rJzB6Uwmx4zZc+zmlGguNkBGWaEVwsORm9fPjLoe7bemMM1c0JVZ ffzxTLLMmURDK2narExXQT4cI3OT/8UUpvE0mWfwVM+DjfzPloZMXW85QKHJvJKujg o1BSlftcNf/4D3579esw377wjyrAjGMf0fW1Bkh8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a50c0cc1822ca Subject: [Fot] aluminum cups now KASTNER CUP 2013 Attendees Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Denise Files is also coming. There are other guests from the UK coming....and perhaps more from Europe. This will truly be an international event. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- And the lovely Denise? She's a lot of fun and would be missed.Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 12:40:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4A140E63 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:40:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD54640E57 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:40:06 -0700 (MST) a=cII0OxXpZpTrMvjuLP8Tjg==:17 a=wLYNZHckZ8oA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3pjfuuwmoC0A:10 a=I0rfX4N0f2Q2wj6Se0sA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=sye3reD_96fe6bNiU1AA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=r688HlalbkUA:10 a=cII0OxXpZpTrMvjuLP8Tjg==:117 Received: from [98.30.168.127] ([98.30.168.127:2441] helo=Bucktailus) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 88/AF-18789-084F0C05; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:39:45 +0000 From: "Robert Johns" To: "FOT team" Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:39:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup English attendees Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It is good news that not only Keith Files is coming , but Denise is also. She is a lovely girl and we had a hoot at Topeka with her and Keith's brother. Bob Johns _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 13:15:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766B740E83 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:15:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0068740651 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:15:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 17so12871378iea.30 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:15:16 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vZzpjXqaN+v/PRSoK9Efn5VFzcn5axv1khdZGjNKpzM=; b=RbgbfIueMOAjlesnUk3TJ6vA79gtVHgDpwuV1uW26pRYZfKGNHWI1/FoInCQZ90VEX CSxboqBQEOlAp5imJE4Hp3EJXZqLRf3CkDtDY87vOTbDqrtYeC8kguUel5oLAAwctzwq VXD1NzWHx9alqgTlcNjBzobMIF3C1XGBofjXw1/uFLbxOS1kOGC7LnIeSuo/8oRvwpId xqpEvN4MJmqFYotsOtm/RBXudjv0DKbaZ13sdL7ixRGJCf2nYKuZcuJDxWvjPxDgtKkS V/871vJSAPm3qI5DwhLXIhpd0aTYVLpCBoFdfl5vAndoPVM0U0H88Nkq155HsvWUNj3b Td/w== Received: by 10.50.173.34 with SMTP id bh2mr2729747igc.70.1354824916326; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:15:16 -0800 (PST) References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> <1354775593.46945.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA1BB701DCCDA-D48-17B7@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E7F7CFD@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <8CFA1E87DF1449C-D48-451A@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:15:16 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] aluminum cups now KASTNER CUP 2013 Attendees Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How about Kieth's son -- the REAL racer in today's world! On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Denise Files is also coming. There are other guests from the UK > coming....and > perhaps more from Europe. > > This will truly be an international event. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > And the lovely Denise? She's a lot of fun and would be missed.Scott B. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 13:36:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5946F40E9C for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:36:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC55140651 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:34:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 41A323800010C; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7DECAE00008C; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:34:26 -0500 (EST) References: <006a01cdd18e$17242b60$456c8220$@net> <1354775593.46945.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA1BB701DCCDA-D48-17B7@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E7F7CFD@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <8CFA1E87DF1449C-D48-451A@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> To: triosan@gmail.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com (64.12.141.18) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:34:25 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:34:26 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354826067; bh=SBZlsbWw69Zr+t3uRywIniIz6ZGItLLm/LNnxi5+tho=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wAbIjXu/+3rcfyANc9zGAu+QCv0RNDn27P1FGdaj4Jyh+6Tr5OEy347rzBvFbWLOA bkH5vrRht6yuWMN39J0Gx5qLBkiyrBxjvA271PaOb+wKDeGryXlS9vfJLPR+OZfTj7 H71HqmY1g6g9tOA7Qo5QKpCYuD4MTDU0vEg6QVXI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850c1015249c1 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] aluminum cups now KASTNER CUP 2013 Attendees Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have not heard Josh's name yet....nor Clifford, Keith's bro. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley To: Joe Alexander Cc: sbarr ; fot Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 2:15 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] aluminum cups now KASTNER CUP 2013 Attendees How about Kieth's son -- the REAL racer in today's world! On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: Denise Files is also coming. There are other guests from the UK coming....and perhaps more from Europe. This will truly be an international event. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- And the lovely Denise? She's a lot of fun and would be missed.Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 7 15:19:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D11740426 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:19:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C38240408 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:19:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9A1441C000088 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 46B3DE000084 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:18:44 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.231) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:18:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:18:44 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354918724; bh=W3RRshbnqCKXbqdewE1a8F6Hp/4pQngxX3Yp+W0btUY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H1ROMAXWZry3dGnXpv1LYSQQBrf3te1UjTHB3NOhvczhcUik/hOnlFaer28DqfQTA OBEYIFG3GmR6peN+BtPoOLqzvgZyOsFlSkAnBqlsLT+cyGhSGY0928CS3cvTqLgOqp wk0936HL508jgjQTXRb9kOgBOl5JFS1qy+B7D0Mc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e50c26b4474dd Subject: [Fot] CALIFORNIA AIR CODE NAME: BOMB (Spitfire & GT6) TRADITIONAL TRIUMPH (TR2-TR6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I just received inventory of the subject John Clancy titles from John. If you expected to received one or more of these, remind me, and I will get them out as soon as possible. Notes: "Code Name: Bomb" and "Traditional Triumph" are DOUBLE DVDs and are in PAL FORMAT. Brilliant DVDs for your TRIUMPH archives. You may get to see John Clancy in action as FOT''s videographer at KASTNER CUP 2013. More on that later. Thanks! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 13:38:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B11A4053D for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:38:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA12440516 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:36:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9C5A01C000073; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.147]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 43AA1E000086; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:36:13 -0500 (EST) References: <8CF9D5DF83D686E-5C8-39505@webmail-d009.sysops.aol.com> <1FAE768B-D151-46D4-8DC5-7379A2CEDAF5@att.net> <8CFA2B9CC53E963-F70-23C4@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com (205.188.92.233) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:36:12 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:36:13 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355085373; bh=86hH5YhtASVlJc4BUcbfrNQyIK7WpQgh8yV+3qSu01g=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KhS7Pnrv+I6rWxtON9oOafd8qFO1NbBgQjPIhI6JHFnBToQUz88Bsk56MmqR7Vfwl 8tcvThFww0HhhGtj27a/Qh/mp7ofDAJYYsrAMFj+S8e3h0YE4zMZQKWs3rzDFomgl8 6/kMzsd0hYScobvSQCH2ELUu3EClhkfMfjHnYyrk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290950c4f63d49ea Cc: cregg.cowan@sri.com, apackard68@att.net Subject: [Fot] NOMINATIONS ANDY PACKARD & CREGG COWAN (West Coast) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Please welcome Andy and Cregg to the FOT with "seconds" for both of them. They are preparing a TR4 for endurance racing on the west coast. Of course they will need our support in this effort. Cregg is very familiar to me and you may have met him when we were all together at the Laguna Seca Kastner Cup. Andy Packard is also familiar to me and a fellow VTR member. Andy Packard apackard68@att.net Cregg Cowan cregg.cowan@sri.com Thanks! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Packard To: Joe Alexander Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:52 am Subject: Re: [6pack] MIATA SEAT CONVERSION TO TR4A/TR-250/TR6 It's endurance racing, so there are a minimum of four drivers for weekend driving of about eight hours each Saturday and Sunday. Cregg and I are the most experienced drivers and John is more technical, although all of us are very mechanical and have restored at least one of our own cars. I have a TR250 with Ratco frame and triple webers among other upgrades. It looks stock and drives fast winning FTD at two VTR events and most Triumphest autocrosses. Cregg has two TR6's, a driver and one in restoration. John has restored a Spitfire with a rotary engine and is working on a TR4 resto right now. If you want to just add one person to the FOT group, I would make it Cregg, but I would also like to be in on the group too. Andy On Dec 7, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: Andy, who is going to be the primary driver and is the most technical? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Packard To: Joe Alexander Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:43 am Subject: Re: [6pack] MIATA SEAT CONVERSION TO TR4A/TR-250/TR6 Hi Joe: Cregg Cowan, John Sisler and I are putting a TR4 Lemons race car together here in the Bay Area. We're hoping to tap into some of the race prep knowledge of the FOT, but it looks like we need your permission to access the Facebook group. One primary issue we have is identifying the correct size racing seat options for a TR4. We're trying to schedule the roll cage construction and having the seat in place will help insure we have the correct clearances for our tallest drivers. Any assistance you can provide in helping us connect with your group would be appreciated. Andy Packard On Nov 30, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Just a heads up...... > > I talked to Sean last night > > Sean Alexander has three conversion kits left on the shelf. > > If you are planning on doing this conversion, you may consider reserving one. > > It takes Sean about 8 weeks to manufacture and assemble 25 kits and he has > three kids active in sports. :-) > > You can contact Sean at: alex3rail@gmail.com > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/apackard68@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 13:42:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EBC4226B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:42:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F1E4051A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:42:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2012 20:41:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.33] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2012 20:41:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2012 20:41:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355085695; bh=7k+k3m1UwQPeULkvtmLCnYY30Pfu413OcqStojbN1po=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OjhWqlduvlH9aTsrcBiSdboGwG+m8mdY8TmIlDc/qf5+0Q8PWJfsgidDgoE7HQwzq8LY5F9INUpCjpbg1qSXb9/3EqCTp+6fTFeWp5Hl+LlriOM3R4W+GJdiXgGOAa0rcSWqLFjtUEbnBzPChKKHucnLSTeSA70HZlxiI77vAx4= 3BpqSfK_aCsWdIRpjAgr_I99FC.HblzjQjOI38tZojZ.4M8qBcFownfPb3bv 03g14KnMQM7NSlTSgLHaROyHpUT8pwpVwtCPMKAVt2yn0O.NGUzdHTxssel6 Z6mXMYVSo1gMMbnhrJovGPCXemkdLaKiYdJEQJdUf2VM5VeguwMU3WH8diu8 jMTZzb0V4.L23gNwLh.sWHjDzdPo_QA6HbfRyBs.zjlRw5Jlpm7YgwZlixcZ D_HINmn5swRSFuQxFG.8yvVOM5DhTJz50e.7fWVAFOYZiCupr2kfu0OaHLQS FxTTnDZTvRi.YXPJc8vMejrrvHuwbl1Ec1X_5LPlkcPNFO5QHXoD1AcXLUI. Sszfo8eXCNELzeS5TPEF89DG3DXSAubrVsBapDY9fHCNJJ79XsWajUEOUEHP BsPhc4dlzrCqgWeQnQedksguL7VaCTXZsVFZCCkcEhPcSDNzV3Lw6LV_Sqq2 vFAHiNXCThaVLWpjl7eVIdWCcWAt8Nwg- Received: from [192.168.2.3] (dmitchel@68.79.89.40 with plain) by smtp101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Dec 2012 12:41:35 -0800 PST Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:41:34 -0500 From: Doug Mitchell To: Joe Alexander Cc: cregg.cowan@sri.com, Fot , apackard68@att.net Subject: Re: [Fot] NOMINATIONS ANDY PACKARD & CREGG COWAN (West Coast) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Seconded. Cheers, Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel@sbcglobal.net Joe Alexander wrote: > Please welcome Andy and Cregg to the FOT with "seconds" for both of them. > >They are preparing a TR4 for endurance racing on the west coast. Of course >they will need our support in this effort. > >Cregg is very familiar to me and you may have met him when we were all >together at the Laguna Seca Kastner Cup. Andy Packard is also familiar to me >and a fellow VTR member. > >Andy Packard apackard68@att.net >Cregg Cowan cregg.cowan@sri.com > >Thanks! > > > >Joe Alexander >A. R. E. >645 1st Street >Jesup, Iowa 50648 >319.464.4711 (cell) >n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew Packard >To: Joe Alexander >Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:52 am >Subject: Re: [6pack] MIATA SEAT CONVERSION TO TR4A/TR-250/TR6 > > >It's endurance racing, so there are a minimum of four drivers for weekend >driving of about eight hours each Saturday and Sunday. Cregg and I are the >most experienced drivers and John is more technical, although all of us are >very mechanical and have restored at least one of our own cars. I have a >TR250 with Ratco frame and triple webers among other upgrades. It looks stock >and drives fast winning FTD at two VTR events and most Triumphest autocrosses. >Cregg has two TR6's, a driver and one in restoration. John has restored a >Spitfire with a rotary engine and is working on a TR4 resto right now. >If you want to just add one person to the FOT group, I would make it Cregg, >but I would also like to be in on the group too. >Andy > > > > > >On Dec 7, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > >Andy, who is going to be the primary driver and is the most technical? > > > > >Joe Alexander >A. R. E. >645 1st Street >Jesup, Iowa 50648 >319.464.4711 (cell) >n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew Packard >To: Joe Alexander >Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:43 am >Subject: Re: [6pack] MIATA SEAT CONVERSION TO TR4A/TR-250/TR6 > > >Hi Joe: >Cregg Cowan, John Sisler and I are putting a TR4 Lemons race car together here >in the Bay Area. We're hoping to tap into some of the race prep knowledge of >the FOT, but it looks like we need your permission to access the Facebook >group. >One primary issue we have is identifying the correct size racing seat options >for a TR4. We're trying to schedule the roll cage construction and having the >seat in place will help insure we have the correct clearances for our tallest >drivers. > >Any assistance you can provide in helping us connect with your group would be >appreciated. > >Andy Packard > >On Nov 30, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> Just a heads up...... >> >> I talked to Sean last night >> >> Sean Alexander has three conversion kits left on the shelf. >> >> If you are planning on doing this conversion, you may consider reserving >one. >> >> It takes Sean about 8 weeks to manufacture and assemble 25 kits and he has >> three kids active in sports. :-) >> >> You can contact Sean at: alex3rail@gmail.com >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4@cs.com >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/apackard68@att.net >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 13:53:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D8740E46 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:53:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D7140516 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:52:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 594761C0000A4; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.147]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3C2FCE000085; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:52:02 -0500 (EST) References: <8CF9BB360FB847A-1E00-27692@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> <1354832071.65824.YahooMailNeo@web112513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA2A8FD9A4FB0-F70-15DD@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> <1354899232.20721.YahooMailNeo@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA2B55F7A4D1A-F70-1FE3@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> <1354902809.77576.YahooMailNeo@web112507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com (205.188.92.233) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:52:01 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:52:02 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355086322; bh=zNM4Pd740VWLLnlYjWLtZ3W7Va8SCEnsxld8zkl6VPg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UnHvB2+zPDB3Q8RFcHRhDVkWAJdgsnxZ7V4KFGIA/7wAKT0U6nid+Kvwg2prSnrwP qwablZgB+2VEIZ69b0DM5KHcW55ARXknz8BMSXC4JuKVccNlRO7XXmf4PKA3csu6pN qwn2EQuQP1MjTijUzSN1KIW0gqdBCt56Pv9qWVHs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca50c4f9f23c0d Cc: my71spit13@yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Nomination - FOT SHAWN FRANK SPITFIRE AUTOCROSS IOWA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: Please welcome Shawn to the FOT list with a "second" and a greeting. Shawn lowers the average age of the FOT.....this is needed as the rest of get older. Shawn is from IOWA....this is good, as we dont have many members in Iowa. Shawn is already making reservations at the OSTHOF to join us at the KCUP 2013. I think Shawn has about 4.5 Spitfires, which means he is in a lot of trouble already, but we can try to help. Thanks! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 14:00:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A7C4052C for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:00:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [69.89.24.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F6EB40516 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:00:48 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 3821 invoked by uid 0); 9 Dec 2012 21:00:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2012 21:00:09 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=49264 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Thnyr-0008FP-Id; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:00:09 -0700 Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:00:12 -0600 To: Joe Alexander ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <8CF9BB360FB847A-1E00-27692@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> <1354832071.65824.YahooMailNeo@web112513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA2A8FD9A4FB0-F70-15DD@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> <1354899232.20721.YahooMailNeo@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA2B55F7A4D1A-F70-1FE3@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> <1354902809.77576.YahooMailNeo@web112507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA4662BFFB164-6B4-31E06@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: my71spit13@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination - FOT SHAWN FRANK SPITFIRE AUTOCROSS IOWA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Seconded! We need another Young Gun to battle the Racing Retireds! Cheers, Tony Drews At 02:52 PM 12/9/2012, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > >Please welcome Shawn to the FOT list with a "second" and a greeting. > >Shawn lowers the average age of the FOT.....this is needed as the rest of get >older. > >Shawn is from IOWA....this is good, as we dont have many members in Iowa. > >Shawn is already making reservations at the OSTHOF to join us at the KCUP >2013. > >I think Shawn has about 4.5 Spitfires, which means he is in a lot of trouble >already, but we can try to help. > >Thanks! > > > >Joe Alexander >A. R. E. >645 1st Street >Jesup, Iowa 50648 >319.464.4711 (cell) >n197tr4@cs.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 14:19:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170784052E for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:19:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A8440522 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:19:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3ABA137B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:19:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:19:27 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <8CF9BB360FB847A-1E00-27692@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> <1354832071.65824.YahooMailNeo@web112513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA2A8FD9A4FB0-F70-15DD@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> <1354899232.20721.YahooMailNeo@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA2B55F7A4D1A-F70-1FE3@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> <1354902809.77576.YahooMailNeo@web112507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA4662BFFB164-6B4-31E06@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination - FOT SHAWN FRANK SPITFIRE AUTOCROSS IOWA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gee whiz, Joe - it is Sunday, why are you making me work so hard? Actually I do have some stopwatches laying around my desk, leftovers from IVR, I should have seen just how many seconds it took me to add the three new guys. Oh, I did do some work on Team.Net earlier, the search function in the archives ( link below ) should be working again. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 14:19:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBF44226B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:19:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dunnwalshholdings.com (dunnwalshholdings.com [70.166.11.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F34440E42 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:19:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa%13]) with mapi; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:19:21 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Nomination - FOT SHAWN FRANK SPITFIRE AUTOCROSS IOWA Thread-Index: Ac3WT+4lP9EUNXakRF6VNAY02Q0GYwAAsDaw References: <8CF9BB360FB847A-1E00-27692@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> <1354832071.65824.YahooMailNeo@web112513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA2A8FD9A4FB0-F70-15DD@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> <1354899232.20721.YahooMailNeo@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA2B55F7A4D1A-F70-1FE3@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> <1354902809.77576.YahooMailNeo@web112507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CFA4662BFFB164-6B4-31E06@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> <20121209210052.2A2C84225B@autox.team.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination - FOT SHAWN FRANK SPITFIRE AUTOCROSS IOWA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Second the second! Shawn's primary Spit is a neat car, with a great story. He is worthy. Ed Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd. Suite D-101 Encinitas, CA 92024 760-492-3814 West Coast Vintage Racing -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 1:00 PM To: Joe Alexander; fot@autox.team.net Cc: my71spit13@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination - FOT SHAWN FRANK SPITFIRE AUTOCROSS IOWA Seconded! We need another Young Gun to battle the Racing Retireds! Cheers, Tony Drews At 02:52 PM 12/9/2012, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > >Please welcome Shawn to the FOT list with a "second" and a greeting. > >Shawn lowers the average age of the FOT.....this is needed as the rest >of get older. > >Shawn is from IOWA....this is good, as we dont have many members in Iowa. > >Shawn is already making reservations at the OSTHOF to join us at the >KCUP 2013. > >I think Shawn has about 4.5 Spitfires, which means he is in a lot of >trouble already, but we can try to help. > >Thanks! > > > >Joe Alexander >A. R. E. >645 1st Street >Jesup, Iowa 50648 >319.464.4711 (cell) >n197tr4@cs.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 15:35:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E2A40EAA for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:35:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732FC4052C for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:35:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.174] by nm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2012 22:34:41 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.214] by tm13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2012 22:34:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2012 22:34:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 64717 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Dec 2012 22:34:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355092481; bh=dcma9R14zAJ6c3SSbDx5BP0/KmqlkZlmQpkKwnXoFOI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EvhPLyMm3+EA1guZNmVZaI7iVvxzNI6sKHWplLA9n5C3zuCzk56PTO4NvjF6F30DTW8Rb9WLyZfUuqN18Mqmt9cFUw3ZbFs5j63bgP/De67y5Br+XLW+xuRb3Z3qPFd4kZFrTsqBjGjtUbxzajMdmsj13JnvzqBjNW9LL9cgo+8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=559TWFGIFAfo/LmiW5A8vLp5UQK/lZGIDEzuBLDrdkxX6bdnFdrBavgmRPNaC4k/neBIZBe+0t47LRA7Ab1/rWxSdh4+cPOJ1OAhoCkjmAGGqdN6Dztssjbe/9fJfXjxKvQj73rc1qqZ+Vuv4DPYQy3yigFqUp/C4dogwLzyffs=; lnevIjg_arDxJHbHZLtkHQS0PTEqFwv7ol45qtRPTVKCvwo51u74fBRVyN9S TVpnv0Oi92dj6DVgDXLb.fcxZfAHX7uEM.VrFzBxqLWAWWu79Qt.3Fm3oDej jRc5H_LggORDrJzc6noSo1yfzkp39AYu9LR6vzUYn_duY9GdXqfbb2LDDLvN x37L78JoIerPhdlJSB5ikxsPZ4j3Vzm5uBNl8n4TmxkgojklB6bcjVCRbwro R_c.m.CGgl6tv48GdUi05hZC8Jcefmqr3Z6mPQyS9VZMbMaOujIqMPX8SQf1 5AFIum1GT8Yl2eUDxWf74UKGJgpJ5EVaZMPKDian9tGQ..I0JgErkLzA652i iPEZEP5o6aQT9hOEif3esCNO5xR.qiFpq.q9slz09KfIU1sxdmWojnw8LuHQ - Received: from [63.153.246.109] by web112513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:34:41 PST VGhhbmsgeW91IHZlcnkgbXVjaCBmb3IgdGhlIG5vbWluYXRpb24sIEpvZSwgYW5kIHRoYW5rcyBndXlzIGZvciB0aGUgc2Vjb25kIGFuZCBzZWNvbmQgc2Vjb25kISBJIHBsYW4gb24gYnVpbGRpbmcgbXkgNzggU3BpdGZpcmUgaW50byBhbiBhdXRvY3Jvc3MgYW5kIHJhbGx5WCBzcGVjaWZpYy4gTXkgNzEgTUtJViB3aWxsIHJlbWFpbiBteSBkYWlseSBkcml2ZXIgYW5kIGFsc28gYXV0b2Nyb3NzZXIgdW50aWwgdGhlIDc4IGlzIGRvbmUuCgpJIGFtIGhvbm9yZWQgdG8gYmUgbm9taW5hdGVkLCBhbmQgcmVhbGwBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:34:41 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: "fot@autox.team.net" , "edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination - FOT SHAWN FRANK SPITFIRE AUTOCROSS IOWA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you very much for the nomination, Joe, and thanks guys for the second and second second! I plan on building my 78 Spitfire into an autocross and rallyX specific. My 71 MKIV will remain my daily driver and also autocrosser until the 78 is done. I am honored to be nominated, and really love these little cars. Obviously, since there is a 64 MK1, a 71 MKIV, a 78 1500, a 79 half 1500, and an 80 1500. I am currently working on an 80 1500, a 71 TR6, and an 80 TR8 for clients. I plan on autocrossing the TR8 when it is done. It is beautiful. I guess what I'm trying to say is: Triumphs have chosen me, and I humbly accept my duties as care taker for a little while at least. Thank you all once again, and hope to see you all at the KCup...Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 17:58:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947D242259 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:58:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8654A4054A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:56:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.2]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4F7061C00008A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 19:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (adsl-75-3-205-252.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net [75.3.205.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 83BD9E0000BE for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 19:55:23 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Gee Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 16:55:19 -0800 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355100924; bh=hbHrSiuQ1pBdjbN8WwUqISxXkC6EO/GRbhngwxk79YU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=MZupVjBJyy/GLBYVbixiFnhIy5l5Mz/Cu/a0gfUGA+85QYDv9fUm6a19+c+viOwjQ qm/8y5ih1CjghM19oO+emH/Do+L4TdLvgWz3/2gZZb6FZ1UiIDg4hH6535fW7xvyul MoLW1J5CGIUTl02SP2R/FJnHhqHONkq2uU+qHsNI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290250c532fa15fb Subject: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello fellow FOTers, I've been looking for a new fiberglass hood for my Spitfire, but all the usual places won't respond to my inquiries. Does anyone have a current active source for these hoods? Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 18:49:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89D842265 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 18:49:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89350403E7 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 18:49:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZdJh1k0020EPchoAAdojgb; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:48:43 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Zdoi1k00i2xZMJ48Mdoi2e; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:48:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:48:42 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Joe Alexander s=q20121106; t=1355104123; bh=3ZgSwoA8gYyIwpj17BH0qYxR2to4EH2EcAljE29wtEg=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=PuKY3dY078GL71ui6fLeU6gdoCRz/IxsStFONf/wPm8G18qBSnk65lAK14c+/D2xX jGstugawUCcZuARHFEX3ea2XIK7r2AG07/YyJlcAm0HxIQgoF8Bs2LxV+9BgoWb8cu YAGL4YiexBCAw2iLYYfBwTICxddDs0K5kTE4wB1W0tLcIYGr6lESr48IKUzz2tVdCY /vKk7EEVGSjVKyR/KX103+9WoRIq8C31ZsGGEv6inInzeD4PRz8VlPTL668pp1jUS7 I5g61xGdL60o9lWVX9ge3cLbgg6qxTY5IWMl5UOkbVMscMdTgay6By+DGFAAkrer6Y DkO74lUQgWMGQ== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] NOMINATIONS ANDY PACKARD & CREGG COWAN (West Coast) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll add a second to the nomination of Andy and Cregg. They are very active with our Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club and dedicated to all things Triumph related. They will be an asset to the FoT. Cregg has a really sweet TR6 and Andy has an amazing TR250 which he restored to perfection with many performance mods. They will both love being connected to this group. Thanks for nominating them, Joe. Dave Hogye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: fot@autox.team.net Cc: "cregg cowan" , apackard68@att.net Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 12:36:13 PM Subject: [Fot] NOMINATIONS ANDY PACKARD & CREGG COWAN (West Coast) Please welcome Andy and Cregg to the FOT with "seconds" for both of them. They are preparing a TR4 for endurance racing on the west coast. Of course they will need our support in this effort. Cregg is very familiar to me and you may have met him when we were all together at the Laguna Seca Kastner Cup. Andy Packard is also familiar to me and a fellow VTR member. Andy Packard apackard68@att.net Cregg Cowan cregg.cowan@sri.com Thanks! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Packard To: Joe Alexander Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:52 am Subject: Re: [6pack] MIATA SEAT CONVERSION TO TR4A/TR-250/TR6 It's endurance racing, so there are a minimum of four drivers for weekend driving of about eight hours each Saturday and Sunday. Cregg and I are the most experienced drivers and John is more technical, although all of us are very mechanical and have restored at least one of our own cars. I have a TR250 with Ratco frame and triple webers among other upgrades. It looks stock and drives fast winning FTD at two VTR events and most Triumphest autocrosses. Cregg has two TR6's, a driver and one in restoration. John has restored a Spitfire with a rotary engine and is working on a TR4 resto right now. If you want to just add one person to the FOT group, I would make it Cregg, but I would also like to be in on the group too. Andy On Dec 7, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: Andy, who is going to be the primary driver and is the most technical? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Packard To: Joe Alexander Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:43 am Subject: Re: [6pack] MIATA SEAT CONVERSION TO TR4A/TR-250/TR6 Hi Joe: Cregg Cowan, John Sisler and I are putting a TR4 Lemons race car together here in the Bay Area. We're hoping to tap into some of the race prep knowledge of the FOT, but it looks like we need your permission to access the Facebook group. One primary issue we have is identifying the correct size racing seat options for a TR4. We're trying to schedule the roll cage construction and having the seat in place will help insure we have the correct clearances for our tallest drivers. Any assistance you can provide in helping us connect with your group would be appreciated. Andy Packard On Nov 30, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Just a heads up...... > > I talked to Sean last night > > Sean Alexander has three conversion kits left on the shelf. > > If you are planning on doing this conversion, you may consider reserving one. > > It takes Sean about 8 weeks to manufacture and assemble 25 kits and he has > three kids active in sports. :-) > > You can contact Sean at: alex3rail@gmail.com > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/apackard68@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 20:25:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A9740558 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:25:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F5A40522 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:25:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Zekb1k0080lTkoCACfQsU4; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:24:52 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.72] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZfQq1k0094L5TyG8QfQq7F; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:24:51 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:24:48 -0700 References: <8CF9D5DF83D686E-5C8-39505@webmail-d009.sysops.aol.com> <1FAE768B-D151-46D4-8DC5-7379A2CEDAF5@att.net> <8CFA2B9CC53E963-F70-23C4@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com> <8CFA463F68A2F84-6B4-317E8@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> s=q20121106; t=1355109892; bh=bDcXou+xHLEYaPeyp31EO5HDFjchGqRHc3+F4onsQ7A=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=edh5DtSKB8B903P41ZsBJ35XNXYJcBT9jbzW6o/x18+YQKJJ+7wzH3Bvd+C279+Fg wxFNqyTeyo677WQHLDLy5PofHz5HGFyR+O/38ZBtk1fCEmK3CUQAgcrjsEN6ZuUwdu TjYdSyQQIrQYOssF2TVRSlmDNGocLXDcKA/o2lU05ksfnDMSoMC6wxepwqOCh0M0rN nIJeGERnwo/I+nWRucY0TlULg9hkrC1VF6DXlzA/3m8VkIeOtwZ1E7MkCOar7qGs1d e+mF4iuvy5IGZHMso3EY7ri5miHQz7kU7VhbDyqHMKjjMNSyGcz3hdF7U6UDU2g4eh 7/23Pjfi4XQbA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] NOMINATIONS ANDY PACKARD & CREGG COWAN (West Coast) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A hardy second for them both. Andy and Cregg are great guys. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Dec 9, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Please welcome Andy and Cregg to the FOT with "seconds" for both of > them. > > They are preparing a TR4 for endurance racing on the west coast. Of > course > they will need our support in this effort. > > Cregg is very familiar to me and you may have met him when we were all > together at the Laguna Seca Kastner Cup. Andy Packard is also > familiar to me > and a fellow VTR member. > > Andy Packard apackard68@att.net > Cregg Cowan cregg.cowan@sri.com > > Thanks! > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Packard > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:52 am > Subject: Re: [6pack] MIATA SEAT CONVERSION TO TR4A/TR-250/TR6 > > > It's endurance racing, so there are a minimum of four drivers for > weekend > driving of about eight hours each Saturday and Sunday. Cregg and I > are the > most experienced drivers and John is more technical, although all of > us are > very mechanical and have restored at least one of our own cars. I > have a > TR250 with Ratco frame and triple webers among other upgrades. It > looks stock > and drives fast winning FTD at two VTR events and most Triumphest > autocrosses. > Cregg has two TR6's, a driver and one in restoration. John has > restored a > Spitfire with a rotary engine and is working on a TR4 resto right now. > If you want to just add one person to the FOT group, I would make it > Cregg, > but I would also like to be in on the group too. > Andy > > > > > > On Dec 7, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > > Andy, who is going to be the primary driver and is the most technical? > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Packard > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:43 am > Subject: Re: [6pack] MIATA SEAT CONVERSION TO TR4A/TR-250/TR6 > > > Hi Joe: > Cregg Cowan, John Sisler and I are putting a TR4 Lemons race car > together here > in the Bay Area. We're hoping to tap into some of the race prep > knowledge of > the FOT, but it looks like we need your permission to access the > Facebook > group. > One primary issue we have is identifying the correct size racing > seat options > for a TR4. We're trying to schedule the roll cage construction and > having the > seat in place will help insure we have the correct clearances for > our tallest > drivers. > > Any assistance you can provide in helping us connect with your group > would be > appreciated. > > Andy Packard > > On Nov 30, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> Just a heads up...... >> >> I talked to Sean last night >> >> Sean Alexander has three conversion kits left on the shelf. >> >> If you are planning on doing this conversion, you may consider >> reserving > one. >> >> It takes Sean about 8 weeks to manufacture and assemble 25 kits and >> he has >> three kids active in sports. :-) >> >> You can contact Sean at: alex3rail@gmail.com >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4@cs.com >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/apackard68@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 09:15:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A29740562 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:15:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641BF4054F for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:15:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [74.219.99.56] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:24:56 -0500 From: "Mike Moore" To: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:14:28 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3W8W4215p8U+zTTTeamL6T5Z84YA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Gauges rebuilt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am looking for someone to repair my speedometer and tach in my street TR4 over the winter. Who would you recommend? Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 10:18:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772214064D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:18:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ye0-f169.google.com (mail-ye0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264344054F for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:18:21 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ye0-f169.google.com with SMTP id l13so598164yen.14 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:17:41 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=1c9V6vLYytZv29o5HWt6LnD6tizG9RVnnQvoMccz1IM=; b=VlD/0gdGHhJ+BZPdA7aGCruJHVJ5rZH0h53IrbSqrCWK9+ykHA1/4xGJtM5TG/VUtc 20klukajJd8t1Jg60YyF4O1flZHo9S1mCr59ar48oic2EmPIifWfU8Z9RO0A4rI9cTG3 ym2vQmwCIG5eLhajPbdMMsM+zsurv4fBV4gvY7g/eIzjVJp/uEdkcRcM9B0jmWOU4hf0 zjIahM3AmwXHzY/EIczTWNdt50MR2LRn5zZkg4LMCw1pJA1/d2vj59XgY/2oLcuFwbYm hphy5SxdugNZ6GqIDk65wbFA5rHt8d8sZ6YITuWN7HElTPP9IMGNa8Ey8UD7uLNhAQ15 qR7A== Received: by 10.236.115.41 with SMTP id d29mr22211448yhh.125.1355159861372; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i26sm26976554yhc.10.2012.12.10.09.17.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:17:40 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:17:37 -0600 References: <001701cdd6f1$6ee8def0$4cba9cd0$@net> To: Mike Moore Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Gauges rebuilt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net MIke, Try Nisonger (nisonger.com) in New York. They repaired a modified Smiths tachometer for me on a Morgan. Duncan On Dec 10, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Mike Moore wrote: > I am looking for someone to repair my speedometer and tach in my street TR4 > over the winter. Who would you recommend? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 11:28:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088B64065A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:28:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr01.ntelos.net (mailrtr01.ntelos.net [216.12.0.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72CF40561 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:28:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr01.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id qBAIRuXY025292 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:27:56 GMT Received: from d-128-235-112.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-235-112.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.235.112]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:27:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:27:56 -0500 From: "R. John Lye" To: fot@autox.team.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Subject: Re: [Fot] Gauges Rebuilt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've had good results with both Nisonger and with Palo Alto Speedometers in the past. John On Mon, December 10, 2012 12:17 pm, Duncan Charlton wrote: > MIke, > > Try Nisonger (nisonger.com) in New York. They repaired a modified Smiths > tachometer for me on a Morgan. > > Duncan > > On Dec 10, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Mike Moore wrote: > >> I am looking for someone to repair my speedometer and tach in my street >> TR4 >> over the winter. Who would you recommend? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> Michael T. Moore, CPA >> >> 2007 West 32nd Street >> >> Erie, PA 16508 >> >> >> >> Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 >> >> Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 11:43:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A239040697 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:43:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765A740562 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:42:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2012 18:42:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.205] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2012 18:42:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2012 18:42:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 79435 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Dec 2012 18:42:17 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355164937; bh=kkRfQfCzTafBklp675u2iozBkgLerzQPDOmJWP6xKcM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ME05HrxN9GIKBO8LNOihBWMX26AHND2Uf8wbvgWp1e4gB7M1jCsPFMrro1tWdtHrk/36MNvJN2ABD8p6gDU/pR2UN3pI1lAy0B6pI2KPQISupf0Nd7Md5xsu7aJCTdXAlqJb1MlSPEqcyAGbwghH/CP4r9enl1WgNurxFhWO758= s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eNYOyHma5s1nuKFjvTwfXoyAuTIwc7FrPfXS4C1sfNWUjtTU0mDGE9AqFyE5H3fH5D/R40MGBSd0w/f+pn7UfIB4VpZttPWVekF9YIvQuJcBVT6r973kAi/N5BQ7uCA5LoON6MhiqeVXrwnrdbty57iu+siuzKH8txMbnGe0bhE=; nhd_CMpnUoMPW_Fwhv0LwbJftbVYRUCd7kwFGpQMEoEdjZ2JRpXEtngC82J. 9sQgS..Zkz_Mz8ZrE3dcv3m5t7GpDl6s5X.ASkNk31FVlsTif3oPmd0KUV54 EUyd99gmqR0iAtPsu5GExUbLypp3_1Tgiao9Jx71t8.eQFi4dva9JeBPactu AS_2lNTL8Oai1jXp4I_wmJsNizD8GHUIrKJN.FwaKB_3XNfAmlk4G_so5e.3 G5_.ySaJTwJXHzZW900x5CJ3wWS5oUS9slEIwiolV8bMvq43iKrE8P13uVxP CozgFlaLwnlalsPGLueNXtAnLbvdVPA0BDazPv9wBr4p.4BviSNAHrkInNun ZPuANte4rNLb.IkKZL.hlWCEc56SVpDQZ1rQLDJoZhXFW2_twA2zDtJC.OOi j2MehJHMxaWSUYPY.eBkHAbbzHQ.lqdoAic3Etao.A_l2ZHtWw2LW.F6uHSg WZUOlcGKS0IWBM5u109bjCDQCfY2Lwn_a36vGkBV1hoIG6uROHewrP0fyrWB zFty0P3Q5ktDNGaFXDzv3tXVf8YdLw8Bdvj_YIfzs3uJ20ovQ9848remXqEQ PaUvO.Qy3j_Le5Bu7r1.rtwJTGGl2XmDd9ym3DIisp7gk4XA7uQTkEpXGcFv rqHdP.ZbjtrippnjsPusL5Y1kQELlZA34o.w4KYwDr_a2C5YFXEwsUfA- Received: from [173.160.102.97] by web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:42:17 PST DQoNCi0tLSBPbiBNb24sIDEyLzEwLzEyLCBSdXNzZWxsIFdlc3RmYWxsIDxyd2VzdGZhbGxAeW1haWwuY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQpGcm9tOiBSdXNzZWxsIFdlc3RmYWxsIDxyd2VzdGZhbGxAeW1haWwuY29tPg0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtGb3RdIEdhdWdlcyByZWJ1aWx0DQpUbzogZm90QGF1dG94dGVhbS5uZXQNCkRhdGU6IE1vbmRheSwgRGVjZW1iZXIgMTAsIDIwMTIsIDY6MzggUE0NCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCllvdSBjb3VsZCBhbHNvIHRyeTsNCkFQVCBJbnNydW1lbnRzIEludGVybmEBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:42:17 -0800 (PST) From: Russell Westfall To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fw: Re: Gauges rebuilt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Russell Westfall wrote: From: Russell Westfall Subject: Re: [Fot] Gauges rebuilt To: fot@autoxteam.net Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 6:38 PM You could also try; APT Insruments International 9632 Humbolt Ave So. Bloomington MN. 55431 (952) 881 9632 They did the gauges for my M.G. T.D. and they came out beautiful, redyed the face remade the glass covers everything. Not cheap, but good. Russ Westfall --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Duncan Charlton wrote: From: Duncan Charlton Subject: Re: [Fot] Gauges rebuilt To: "Mike Moore" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 5:17 PM MIke, Try Nisonger (nisonger.com) in New York. They repaired a modified Smiths tachometer for me on a Morgan. Duncan On Dec 10, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Mike Moore wrote: > I am looking for someone to repair my speedometer and tach in my street TR4 > over the winter. Who would you recommend? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rwestfall@ymail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 11:48:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E932F40563 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7477F40562 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:48:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W39 ([65.55.116.73]) by blu0-omc3-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:48:11 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: , FOT List Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:48:11 -0500 References: <814E3314-8153-4E5A-BC9B-8803830828B1@aol.com> FILETIME=[E76BA6E0:01CDD706] Subject: Re: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chuck - Did you try prodbodies.com ? Thanks, Chuck Watson > From: chasgee@aol.com > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 16:55:19 -0800 > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 > > Hello fellow FOTers, > > I've been looking for a new fiberglass hood for my Spitfire, but all the usual > places won't respond to my inquiries. Does anyone have a current active source > for these hoods? > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 11:49:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72E64225A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:49:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s35.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s35.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAD24056A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:49:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W54 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s35.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:48:23 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: , FOT List Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:48:22 -0500 References: <814E3314-8153-4E5A-BC9B-8803830828B1@aol.com> FILETIME=[EE7BD180:01CDD706] Subject: Re: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chuck - Did you try prodbodies.com ? Thanks, Chuck Watson > From: chasgee@aol.com > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 16:55:19 -0800 > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 > > Hello fellow FOTers, > > I've been looking for a new fiberglass hood for my Spitfire, but all the usual > places won't respond to my inquiries. Does anyone have a current active source > for these hoods? > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 12:50:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C7D406B0 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:50:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FCF40568 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:50:27 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t2so2112226qcq.14 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:49:46 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=vpUxYW8w7lSbIfHUVneMvqbwIf+MbdUaI1gqPkA31uk=; b=Bcee98QJVQLDhJAcMZ2kq8t/SV4e6Pjgcdl6y9FoES0SUxCZzlxwjMP0sOlZd/1vw6 NREIGj/miB6U+vAUStW04tWwf43DIGjdZMoSBZRcS03wFSNdZ4J6Ea4+moyPsB+IUZD3 3ioAvPUdLrfdOPr9PcFxiytu8aRvqz4l98m8pO9ZKYPDCCFMxL604MiOZ5PEBAaW8r/b iERaVtFl951kltL1GshRGzFnVtxkR0YjoVqQew2ZuZppv13tFqb+A9pfUu+6sudNAGcE meeMOM0Dv7+RqVuqpTLNX4ZDqcZCdi6SA3CXHUDPQi7zlc6udaMaKCC4OZC9EzdVizSu J4IA== Received: by 10.49.74.10 with SMTP id p10mr33161893qev.35.1355168986471; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.63.66 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:49:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:49:46 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] 1959 June Sprints Cool OLD Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A couple of Triumphs in here. Check out the TR3 roll bar that heads backwards from the top of the roll hoop to the TOW HITCH AREA! Like the Pepsi Advertising on the bridge. You might notice a few changes in the landscape on the edge of the track... Night and Day compared to Today. This is some of the best early footage I have seen of Road America. http://vimeo.com/49357431 Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 14:05:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7284F40E2E for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:05:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.bemta7.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta7.messagelabs.com [216.82.255.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120BE40570 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:03:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.82.254.19:60624] by server-10.bemta-7.messagelabs.com id 20/66-10299-FDD46C05; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:02:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 6119 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2012 21:02:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chis0225.am.amersports.int) (198.184.220.8) by server-11.tower-96.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Dec 2012 21:02:22 -0000 Received: from chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) by chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) with mapi; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:02:21 -0600 From: "Reed, John" To: jason ostrowski , 'Friends of Triumph' Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:02:20 -0600 Thread-Topic: [Fot] 1959 June Sprints Cool OLD Video Thread-Index: Ac3XD4jWy5QXVXFmS368GdhbsUVHMwAChvMt Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] 1959 June Sprints Cool OLD Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I love the hands off the steering wheel brake test, in the tech barn! On 12/10/12 1:49 PM, "jason ostrowski" wrote: A couple of Triumphs in here. Check out the TR3 roll bar that heads backwards from the top of the roll hoop to the TOW HITCH AREA! Like the Pepsi Advertising on the bridge. You might notice a few changes in the landscape on the edge of the track... Night and Day compared to Today. This is some of the best early footage I have seen of Road America. http://vimeo.com/49357431 Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed@wilson.com John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services [cid:3437996540_16638571] Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed@wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 14:52:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C04B407AC for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:52:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315B54056D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:51:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Zpvv1k00E0vp7WLA1xrJ5q; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:51:18 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZxpH1k00J2vctGa8RxpHlU; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:49:18 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Reed, John" , "jason ostrowski" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:49:19 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1355176278; bh=aDEp2/TdSsVtbg+ZQQfr0HwAwaukDm4yk4y7FQcdk9c=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MNhBwliE93ASGwwnjrL3QFyy0tWBAqblTEa7YmH67FY8cLDgikiDshqUkBw6CGpRb ombHW9pxvj5KU2IJwia/RlS4BYL9h6LtDzBG3XwahCxcYsYZSd77HETzaqxv4M1jIu u1PDzavSWYrLD2k5sT2rn2s9oYuKS5M6Nf5so0Vs/ohmP2uV+xu+mS6UJie9+TrQRz DcF9gI5Xxy9CuTIh3A+7WaLfTWO9DCr159p+iIVWDGth3AGQTNgf2OKpjSpQKq4tMU MKFA67AflhB5Oq28Ex9zCe+OouPcOCMNN67h1WqNyR2PdUnhAwaoMH4LB/sHvVm2go 6ayvbo4EA5IuA== Subject: Re: [Fot] 1959 June Sprints Cool OLD Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the Terrific video!!! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reed, John" To: "jason ostrowski" ; "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 1959 June Sprints Cool OLD Video >I love the hands off the steering wheel brake test, in the tech barn! > > > On 12/10/12 1:49 PM, "jason ostrowski" wrote: > > A couple of Triumphs in here. Check out the TR3 roll bar that heads > backwards from the top of the roll hoop to the TOW HITCH AREA! > Like the Pepsi Advertising on the bridge. > You might notice a few changes in the landscape on the edge of the > track... > Night and Day compared to Today. > This is some of the best early footage I have seen of Road America. > http://vimeo.com/49357431 > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed@wilson.com > > > > > John Reed > Global Staff Photographer > Creative Services > > [cid:3437996540_16638571] > > Wilson Sporting Goods Co. > 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA > T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 > John.Reed@wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com > > > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you > are > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > strictly > forbidden. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > image.png] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 15:21:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF6340692 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:21:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B900C40562 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:19:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.66]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2C4F61C000058; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.101] (myaccess.masterchemical.com [72.240.58.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 763E7E00010C; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:18:44 -0500 (EST) References: <814E3314-8153-4E5A-BC9B-8803830828B1@aol.com> From: Chuck Gee Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:18:42 -0500 To: Charles WATSON x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355177925; bh=KR8Zv7UT5OqvxXHeuo7cgAJmxZXJYooMlCkdl1+jZtw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=y0E8XdUNNLgUWuEkGUslIvPh1oSEJU8r9RSIx0LOrKLZ/u2Vks1J7X1Mc9Z5uFAKC gmHtc29ofRycgyESOX6SX7nKDVV84WA7V1uAMZC8Cqvr90mQpV+rOPOY/bWpGV2qyi /zUBcVo4LsJynlPNm+b7oYGzYvM5XlmB8fo+pp9E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294250c65fc2639d Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, more than once. They haven't responded yet. Chuck On Dec 10, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Charles WATSON wrote: > Chuck - > > Did you try prodbodies.com ? > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > > > > > > > > > From: chasgee@aol.com > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 16:55:19 -0800 > > To: fot@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 > > > > Hello fellow FOTers, > > > > I've been looking for a new fiberglass hood for my Spitfire, but all the usual > > places won't respond to my inquiries. Does anyone have a current active source > > for these hoods? > > > > Thanks, > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 15:27:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E0A406B5 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:27:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D53840645 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:27:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Zqvn1k0091Y3wxoA1ySuMQ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:26:55 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZySu1k00o2xZMJ48bySu1a; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:26:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:26:54 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: fot s=q20121106; t=1355178415; bh=V2s+sTDgBwqYSxVn6ltLQFGFR5Pw+XSxSozFbDBqosc=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=QOaHGnkngCEyhRNDd6LWq2L1eiDORn97gw+y79arkmiFODUfssoHEg+0Ti186o6hX sbKWemaJ7+ySQfZVyOTXuEctTRzrS+QUR6vfCSJn1Y+Qn1NvfEIbUaNsBnUn6RYpxa CwGyRV0p5aRXq297XMz/HystalcGjrzcgV+NsjPrW3zfwWC4IK9xAhnfbXwtYlQxsV VYZ5faTG7dDuLyk20K4XvXOXzexrdra42FKyJQycUW2Qtz/Yw85RddqjbLpXM3ulTv EvGXE3mya+pZLUHeGZVhxOqKahV9N5bQoWuH9r4HD5Z2+NJSL2I4Uz4iDVaPV5I4b3 d+mpzCOxch+UQ== Subject: [Fot] Two GT6's for sale in Denver for $2K, for both. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Two GT6's for sale in Denver for $2K, for both. NFI, just FYI OK? 10-4 http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3455721569.html jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 15:28:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E614F40E2C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:28:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dunnwalshholdings.com (dunnwalshholdings.com [70.166.11.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389274068D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:27:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa%13]) with mapi; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:25:15 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: Chuck Gee Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:27:48 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 Thread-Index: Ac3XJFYC7aTheaHLSmuegamf2O0UhgAARdMQ References: <814E3314-8153-4E5A-BC9B-8803830828B1@aol.com> <440696A0-FD79-45CC-87A8-E1195E0E7996@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Might check with Joe Siam. All of his Spits have glass front ends. Ed Dunn -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Gee Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 2:19 PM To: Charles WATSON Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 Yes, more than once. They haven't responded yet. Chuck On Dec 10, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Charles WATSON wrote: > Chuck - > > Did you try prodbodies.com ? > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > > > > > > > > > From: chasgee@aol.com > > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 16:55:19 -0800 > > To: fot@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Fot] Fiberglass hood for Spitfire 1500 > > > > Hello fellow FOTers, > > > > I've been looking for a new fiberglass hood for my Spitfire, but all the usual > > places won't respond to my inquiries. Does anyone have a current active source > > for these hoods? > > > > Thanks, > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 15:51:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45344064D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:51:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CFC4064C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:50:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5273EA138B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:50:56 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:50:55 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot References: <1702694417.921003.1355178414588.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Two GT6's for sale in Denver for $2K, for both. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good thing I didn't see this back when I had the money earlier this summer! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 15:58:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6085040E1A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:58:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 99D964068C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:58:18 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1355180256; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=Fosiz0dnH+v22gEN3swnbs3Zf2HkkpsOtW0mgehb+TWfMVHisEdrxe0HBYXY1hRrV jLFwyZgNegYQib37mbszjtSzf9bf9CmqaY+1FMzZAm7hmiFjIXjlZwhyqeGCqHGfRd h3REmTx+jHgRIWKaE6LhkIraKmpRzRVAYyq+BO7Q= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail11.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.151]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJNN4F2ASSX4D2 for (sender ); Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [24.8.228.112] by webmail11.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:55:40 GMT From: "wgrosenbach@juno.com" Full-Name: "wgrosenbach@juno.com" Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:55:40 GMT To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 1959 June Sprints Cool OLD Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gotta love the F&C workers standing at the apex with paddle flags! ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] 1959 June Sprints Cool OLD Video Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:49:46 -0600 A couple of Triumphs in here. Check out the TR3 roll bar that heads backwards from the top of the roll hoop to the TOW HITCH AREA! Like the Pepsi Advertising on the bridge. You might notice a few changes in the landscape on the edge of the track... Night and Day compared to Today. This is some of the best early footage I have seen of Road America. http://vimeo.com/49357431 Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wgrosenbach@juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Veteran Home Loans Apply for VA Loans with competitive interest rates at Military.com. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50c668b8e6e7368b83010st02vuc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 17:21:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C4140E02 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:21:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6592C403F7 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:20:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBB0KHNG023626 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:20:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:20:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net Ever the pot-stirrer, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 17:49:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A114240695 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:49:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268D34064D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:49:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Zp9P1k0050cQ2SLA10osf0; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:48:52 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id a0or1k0012vctGa8W0orp4; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:48:51 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Robert M. Lang" , References: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:48:50 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1355186932; bh=2Yufby9jGGlTma+iH8kxrlWNdodvNWrP8lzHec9ulR0=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W3c5lCocXZgWyxB8IP8ShtGOB0eb77dMo6g/6ib9I9Yff5MbfqfInk78ZIJ6cQpWp 9B7ptktHLjYakPFSkdv2WnBf/tIdyKLFvQer7BU56X38x4TYG4J5n8c079vxYnjM0I m2EJHv4ldQ8L4yIKwwN2mYvgcWmxhrnmGz80jU/k3a64afLEvPLQEzedIIXAjBoj+E ZCfZVZTnGmFlETlhBEwAgGba4k7LlDnmGLKpuiztMYuk2qNScf8kYJ3Cb3VH/g/g4n 07srnIOBu2Wu+3tkNdEJzrafuMZvab++3fqJVw4qwJtGXsr+HJ2hlRDUrJsvrSN9QF N6e52mqyh3BEA== Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The PA Hillclimbs have a marvelous history. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:20 PM Subject: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... > Hi, > > I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem > to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from > my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like > the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the > non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held > 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the > autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers > who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... > > Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. > > Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net > > Ever the pot-stirrer, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 18:14:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A3940E1F for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:14:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B4840655 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:14:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DAA811C000044; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.205]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1841FE000093; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:14:10 -0500 (EST) References: To: lang@isis.mit.edu, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m175.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.145) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:14:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:14:09 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355188450; bh=l+NV7dYzNtZ+YobGzk94KGv1Oax58ht3sQ97+ix/iLk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OXDQnHprrsfp57kNOatJSdAFroSHvt8Jv7uCL2C/oSl0yqtIkMVWA4YtGoIXcaIqQ grmVj7gq8vEpI7+wFX/53FC5mXsiR400Y3RnakTNGLvOoTQN6QprW+VXClnzNz1mxJ Gqo+xaCaxkRVmtliXPLB3Yse/OuMbthOeUJCA0l4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b50c688e27a54 Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Excellent! We have been exploring alternative uses of our cars. MN has a couple hillclimbs and airport autocrosses we are looking at. Lower cost family activity for us and frequently requires less time with everybody's busy schedules. Not much interested in parking lots and pylons.....did that for 10 years, but it is another choice. Thanks Bob! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: fot Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:20 pm Subject: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Hi, I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net Ever the pot-stirrer, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 18:58:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681C4406AF for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:58:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE1C403F8 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:58:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Zqyf1k0091u4NiLA31xnfJ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:57:47 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id a1xm1k00M2vctGa8h1xmTk; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:57:47 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: , , "Joe Alexander" References: <8CFA553F523F277-1DC0-5421@webmail-m175.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:57:45 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1355191067; bh=pnS5CjywhcZb2OHJ62MxWoa6xdEFBoHyS4ZxNG2Du3Y=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zj5jfFFNyJ2sWNEFSdvXxTkhxK0rI4Tf4NIOHImMl861B/I//SQuNfBNpZeTCJwaV +pvsXkaQU+JJf7ZJMj4P+luQBTGyvAp2EbdKUn0R/1mF98vKlpyuI+Vsn25pdxUjef 5hEouGpiO24SAmI6mdZl383nCzxITI8hACwNp0IAWCmlUitDEMxmgQwTmwenKuRP4n PrfpmaqRmMzY0Hl3wT0kuAW+V7FZdLM/zIQK1Ez+tstcj5b7scT+SPIEB7St4zEuof +nYW4QG43BcOPe2/elkzER9aaPUIeocxNfpEGsheqN6Wk667mYbA0LS5XtmfPRFJB3 xbucYKPzFy18A== Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net it seems that there are/were some hillclimbs in Idaho? RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: ; Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... > Excellent! > > We have been exploring alternative uses of our cars. > > MN has a couple hillclimbs and airport autocrosses we are looking at. > > Lower cost family activity for us and frequently requires less time with > everybody's busy schedules. > > Not much interested in parking lots and pylons.....did that for 10 years, > but > it is another choice. > > Thanks Bob! > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert M. Lang > To: fot > Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:20 pm > Subject: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... > > > Hi, > > I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem > to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from > my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like > the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the > non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held > 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the > autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers > who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... > > Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. > > Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net > > Ever the pot-stirrer, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 19:56:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D66B40E02 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:56:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A128640561 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:55:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAA4A138B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:55:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:55:54 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <8CFA553F523F277-1DC0-5421@webmail-m175.sysops.aol.com> <5EF100571CD1456693D166A8C829808F@Bud> Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net RACER BUD wrote: > it seems that there are/were some hillclimbs in Idaho? I don't really know if those are still around. When I was active with the local SCCA region I heard about them, would put the info in the SCCA newsletter. Back in the mid - late 90s IVR ran a few hillclimbs. Those were fun. Killer's first public appearance was at the 1997 Snow Basin hillclimb. But we lost both our twisty mountain roads to construction for the 2002 Utah Olympics and shifted focus to the "road" races out at the Wendover airport. 2013 may see me once again take a modestly active part in local motorsports, I'll look into the Idaho hillclimbs. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 20:01:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8882F406B2 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:01:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D9D4068C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:01:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40BEA138B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:01:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:01:31 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: "F.O.T." Subject: [Fot] Hillclimbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hillclimb info for out here in my neck of the woods: http://www.nhahillclimb.org/ mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 20:16:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070014069C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:16:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2884068C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:16:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from new-host-2.home (pool-108-16-249-182.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.249.182]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MEU00F4MJQ2ZCC0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:15:41 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-12-11_01:2012-12-10,2012-12-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=11 phishscore=0 bulkscore=4 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1212100306 From: Scott Janzen Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:15:36 -0500 References: To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Pa hill climbs are lots of fun and the hills have a lot of history - they've been running Giants Despair continuously since 1906. They have one every two weeks from June 8th to Sept 14, only one hill repeated, and it's a terrific one (Weatherly). Good paddock scene, great variety of cars and people, quite a few spectators as these are local, small town events, Pagoda and Duryea being bigger (in Reading). No run-off, no guard rails, just the real deal - rocks, trees sone walls and occasionally getting airborne. Only caveat for you road racers is that driving time is limited. If things run smoothly, you might get four runs in a day, 1-3 minutes a shot depending on the hill. Entry fees are low. Rich Rock is one of the hill climb experts on this forum, being one of the organizers and having run them for years. And yes, there are usually several Triumphs. On Dec 10, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Robert M. Lang wrote: Hi, I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net Ever the pot-stirrer, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 20:54:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487E040E1D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:54:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D16A4068D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:54:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121211035402.KTGY24708.mta31.charter.net@imp09>; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:54:02 -0500 Received: from Davelaptop ([24.196.42.76]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id a3u11k00F1ec4C8053u1qL; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:54:02 -0500 a=hRgd5mShu202HiZ9wS8KUg==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=FajW8wO5yx4A:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=NLAmXZLj6DS76mux7ScA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=_vJqqxHf3fAA:10 a=5nmbGoeUrHwA:10 a=iOgyu-XeqMgA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=hRgd5mShu202HiZ9wS8KUg==:117 From: "David Kettler" To: "Mike Moore" , References: <001701cdd6f1$6ee8def0$4cba9cd0$@net> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:54:01 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] Gauges rebuilt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike: Had a TR3 Tach repaired by British Miles in Morrisville, PA this year. 215-736-9300. I was satisfied with the work. Dave Kettler -----Original Message----- From: Mike Moore Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 10:14 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Gauges rebuilt I am looking for someone to repair my speedometer and tach in my street TR4 over the winter. Who would you recommend? Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 21:45:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCE4406AA for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:45:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from email.consolidated.net (omr04.consolidated.net [72.22.9.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A5B4068D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:45:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from client-72-251-169-90.consolidated.net (EHLO _192.168.0.100_) ([72.251.169.90]) by omr04.consolidated.net (MOS 4.3.3-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id JMG36042 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:44:59 -0500 (EST) References: <50C6A20B.9030001@bradakis.com> From: Home Consolidated Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:45:02 -0600 To: Mark J Bradakis actions=TAG refid=str=0001.0A020204.50C6BA4C.00E0, ss=1, re=0.000, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=single engine refid=str=0001.0A020204.50C6BA4C.00E0, ss=1, re=0.000, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46 Cc: "F.O.T." Subject: Re: [Fot] Hillclimbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Cool. Thank you. Kg Sent from my iPad On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Hillclimb info for out here in my neck of the woods: > > http://www.nhahillclimb.org/ > > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 21:58:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0010A407AC for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:58:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from email.consolidated.net (omr02.consolidated.net [72.22.9.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C155C4068D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:57:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from client-72-251-169-90.consolidated.net (EHLO _192.168.0.100_) ([72.251.169.90]) by omr02.consolidated.net (MOS 4.3.3-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id IAV40289 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:56:25 -0500 (EST) References: <0F7505C0-CE5F-4C45-9948-060B1674A412@me.com> From: Home Consolidated Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:56:29 -0600 To: Scott Janzen actions=TAG refid=str=0001.0A020205.50C6BCFA.0004, ss=1, re=0.000, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=single engine refid=str=0001.0A020205.50C6BCFA.0004, ss=1, re=0.000, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Put me on the list, at least to spectate :-) There is a fun hill climb, believe it or not, in Western Indiana. Newport. It runs once a year, in October and is limited to pre WWII cars (unless the manufacture is out of business, then it the early 1950's). It starts right at the courthouse door and runs a drag race straight up a steep hill. Ken Gano Sent from my iPad On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > Pa hill climbs are lots of fun and the hills have a lot of history - they've been running Giants Despair continuously since 1906. They have one every two weeks from June 8th to Sept 14, only one hill repeated, and it's a terrific one (Weatherly). Good paddock scene, great variety of cars and people, quite a few spectators as these are local, small town events, Pagoda and Duryea being bigger (in Reading). No run-off, no guard rails, just the real deal - rocks, trees sone walls and occasionally getting airborne. > Only caveat for you road racers is that driving time is limited. If things run smoothly, you might get four runs in a day, 1-3 minutes a shot depending on the hill. > Entry fees are low. Rich Rock is one of the hill climb experts on this forum, being one of the organizers and having run them for years. > > And yes, there are usually several Triumphs. > > On Dec 10, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > > Hi, > > I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... > > Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. > > Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net > > Ever the pot-stirrer, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 06:23:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1772840E2C for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:23:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015064064D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:22:40 -0700 (MST) a=1t4t41njZ21UTC2cGtH4ng==:17 a=QTInK6ZJLCIA:10 a=tMw5X6YvOBYA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KGStXj2mpUcA:10 a=1mxWKxD3AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=ZuEXM0JxAAAA:8 a=A1wrP3QDD1ahUsny5q4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=1t4t41njZ21UTC2cGtH4ng==:117 Received: from [74.75.158.23] ([74.75.158.23:2950] helo=UPSTAIRSOFFICE) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4B/C2-20885-07337C05; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:21:54 +0000 From: "Tim Hutchisen" To: "Robert M. Lang" , References: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:46:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob and other East Coast FOT'ers, The PA hillclimb circuit has lots of history and good events. If you can't make it to any of the PA events, you can try a little closer to home for a good hillclimb event. New England Hill Climb Association (NEHA) is quite active throughout the warm season in the Northeast. A half dozen or so events every year, most are in Vermont. Go to http://hillclimb.org/index.html for more info. Lots of variety in the paddock and good people too. Tim Hutchisen Norway, ME ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... > Hi, > > I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem > to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from > my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like > the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the > non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held > 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the > autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers > who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... > > Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. > > Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net > > Ever the pot-stirrer, > rml _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 07:35:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EE440E3B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:35:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ye0-f169.google.com (mail-ye0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384654064D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:35:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ye0-f169.google.com with SMTP id l13so807384yen.14 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:34:26 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=ODuFzTTr56HPQSOgM3E7fxP78X5YsrtjwKgbysXeN0E=; b=ZIqI8flna/5LSfUIdXMn35WJjRBQTVkBjaQcZBna9Ba93vufu9jzbwkvwAdV6+n8mi kOHaXFnmssiAFKppcSPU6cgAseOI4hhNpxNg2Nyoi+/BkKzdj+dro8f2Qrhe3/ycwhXU pY+yozKDiIFNt/uhH09Q/jBIqEqpjw4oLi60oijWWXElEtRQesy879rTXUr4o+gv/fTL PmD/tZvif6NlhAFKcQAR3r08889OVMKc8hLtGdx4pw8/MqjbbPH2zAC1VuG9L8K6rAP9 gDRiEA54SdpSzdwt/hufxibH48SkTJLeZ2OziM2j2EKLfecdo1vUkbG8nriy6PWACwef a+Jw== Received: by 10.236.87.77 with SMTP id x53mr28552857yhe.7.1355236466677; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s1sm28575615anj.1.2012.12.11.06.34.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:34:25 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:34:23 -0600 References: <6F38B23F7C8A4B0AACFC0E124CC0BCD4@Bud> To: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 1959 June Sprints Cool OLD Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I found it surprising ing how little the track itself has changed. The configuration of the turns/straights looked pretty much as it did last time I saw it, about 4 or 5 years ago. Duncan On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:49 PM, RACER BUD wrote: > Thanks for the Terrific video!!! > RB _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 07:58:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40CE40E39 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:58:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059E44064D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:58:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 765DA1C000045; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DC8B1E00008B; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:58:03 -0500 (EST) References: <380AD35DAAC446C182CAB7A757602FE6@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> To: hakhutch@roadrunner.com, lang@isis.mit.edu, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.97) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:58:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:58:03 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355237884; bh=239K/y5MYIynx1x/hi3f+hV2kjv1ELG0iC/zZDmh9AM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E/i8XW0RUGk5kuW5SHxUGyzal/FCRvt5dxu0xLcGPMaahWwqay0R0sTQ5fR8YbU7o H25rulCNHICV9VnQ9UpD3Bfa9t1ujQBVBW8nWcS7sQKahc2WR95TEz/VekOT9hJOt7 tRyEJpGXSmoxXxBuqmKFCrvOBJVdLs2PhxrtXmRs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c50c749fb2e91 Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The TAIL OF THE DRAGON HILL CLIMB is growing in popularity. I saw JK Jackson and Gary Hunter there this year. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Hutchisen To: Robert M. Lang ; fot Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:23 am Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Bob and other East Coast FOT'ers, The PA hillclimb circuit has lots of history and good events. If you can't make it to any of the PA events, you can try a little closer to home for a good hillclimb event. New England Hill Climb Association (NEHA) is quite active throughout the warm season in the Northeast. A half dozen or so events every year, most are in Vermont. Go to http://hillclimb.org/index.html for more info. Lots of variety in the paddock and good people too. Tim Hutchisen Norway, ME ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... > Hi, > > I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem > to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from > my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like > the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the > non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held > 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the > autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers > who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... > > Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. > > Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net > > Ever the pot-stirrer, > rml _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 08:43:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89E6407AD for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:43:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B7F40696 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:43:21 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d41so2772291eek.14 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:42:37 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dI9Qy50ZAMeqjcCtaL88AnZTDPU7u5nsjewU8NxQecU=; b=G9mM54SwBvzfJ9eE9BFU/mWlrA4sK2AeISFCvfUCVLIWeTX/qI07EgGtxlqWC6WbUn A2y6kuVTCzLWehvvmaFjrN+qr1QQ3BmzJhFaNqLojCA79bC8WmUHdIrdma/dubODxBny 2/ZnVN9kyapWc6GRzYn8ObACf2k5jY3O6eguL8/ZW3C75m7xQvYd77h3MADK/7lLpuOi /R84YGVraKWlnrk2FLlUuAV0uNaaAutHMFY2Tup69gLQ0gyyXYzL3CJqYjSViNkc6GOR SVUdXNkTUnpnYLXdtFnQvD7av5zkSraX3JAlNDHUf1DHW8Dmn7Ts9iMnVuJUXOIVZDNI e3jQ== Received: by 10.14.209.193 with SMTP id s41mr62006247eeo.9.1355240557146; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.198 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:42:37 -0800 (PST) References: <380AD35DAAC446C182CAB7A757602FE6@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> <8CFA5C70DA88A1C-A94-888E@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:42:37 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Now that is a ride if you have never done it.....and the dragon bites someone every year....I have heard more than one horror story from wrecks on that run. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > The TAIL OF THE DRAGON HILL CLIMB is growing in popularity. I saw JK > Jackson > and Gary Hunter there this year. > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Hutchisen > To: Robert M. Lang ; fot > Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:23 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... > > > Bob and other East Coast FOT'ers, > The PA hillclimb circuit has lots of history and good events. If you can't > make it to any of the PA events, you can try a little closer to home for a > good hillclimb event. New England Hill Climb Association (NEHA) is quite > active throughout the warm season in the Northeast. A half dozen or so > events every year, most are in Vermont. Go to > http://hillclimb.org/index.html for more info. > Lots of variety in the paddock and good people too. > Tim Hutchisen > Norway, ME > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert M. Lang" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:20 PM > Subject: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... > > > > Hi, > > > > I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem > > to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from > > my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like > > the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the > > non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held > > 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the > > autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers > > who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... > > > > Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. > > > > Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net > > > > Ever the pot-stirrer, > > rml > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 08:52:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7656140E1A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:52:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470F640696 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:52:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2FDA91C000100; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 95E53E000082; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:51:27 -0500 (EST) References: <380AD35DAAC446C182CAB7A757602FE6@UPSTAIRSOFFICE> <8CFA5C70DA88A1C-A94-888E@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> To: rfdeanes@gmail.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.97) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:51:27 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:51:27 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355241088; bh=Sd9g3b8kV561Xm3uEt4Up8e1VnPMScfp7d7xjnawxAA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bNvaOdZhM9iebGXRB/NY8t2u5fu+YNAf7GfsOP90d5sGMYZBmQRfz2mEdVcumGLwr RFgP1RMF2HOM3ksUzm2Yb1HErASVHoGvqacWu1CN0PYhYdI8ax1yLxM8t6yV1dCBPD SS1/gA822dBB+Q5wHGAVcqJgzWCQ8RkF4apSWOKQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50c7567f327c Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net a transponder is recommended so they can find your remains...... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert Deanes To: Joe Alexander Cc: hakhutch ; lang ; fot Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:42 am Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Now that is a ride if you have never done it.....and the dragon bites someone every year....I have heard more than one horror story from wrecks on that run. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: The TAIL OF THE DRAGON HILL CLIMB is growing in popularity. I saw JK Jackson and Gary Hunter there this year. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Hutchisen To: Robert M. Lang ; fot Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:23 am Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Bob and other East Coast FOT'ers, The PA hillclimb circuit has lots of history and good events. If you can't make it to any of the PA events, you can try a little closer to home for a good hillclimb event. New England Hill Climb Association (NEHA) is quite active throughout the warm season in the Northeast. A half dozen or so events every year, most are in Vermont. Go to http://hillclimb.org/index.html for more info. Lots of variety in the paddock and good people too. Tim Hutchisen Norway, ME ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... > Hi, > > I've thought about posting this for a while... the PA hillclmb folks seem > to host events where a reasonble number of Triumphs attend, at least from > my read of the results. Some of us aren't road racers and an event like > the Pagoda Hillclimb in June might be a good gathering place for the > non-road-race FOTs. According to the PA Hillclimb web page will be held > 22-23 June 2013. I was thinking that a crossover event for the > autocrossers and the normal hillclimb folks along with some road racers > who want to take a shot at a hillclimb... > > Who's up for it? Regular PA hillclimb folks feel free to chime in. > > Check out the schedule: www.pahillclimb.net > > Ever the pot-stirrer, > rml _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 09:16:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94FA40E28 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:16:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D47406B2 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:16:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9646B380000DE for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5C67AE00008B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:15:41 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.97) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:15:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:15:41 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355242541; bh=il047Mgi1r4e9EhMUpbWFQOfKyIBi73bH+0PUcJn690=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c+yp+LUvrFpBXQToQYGMEko5uAlFONLSqB1Oy2DB7jMjFL2L8O/oH0Abl9G1ORlqi hr+E7cLdJ1eZ4Zj/E3r1M5AXSDaE6x9zT8WGsN8JoXcNOQqvA6OOHCOvRsLcvOiwsF 548rTIybBT3F97Nm1oJKBLN7ilqHkJ0xdyjQe45w= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338950c75c2d19f5 Subject: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT; We have now exceeded our contracted number of suites at the OSTHOF. I need to contract an addendum. They will work with us on this, but I need information. If you have not made reservations yet, but plan to, please contact me. Being at the Osthof is part of the weekend experience and is cost effective when suites are shared. Please respond to this request................................................and our earlier request for your plans to enter. Entry plans are vital for several reasons........for one, VSCDA will use this information to negotiate with track management. It will be to our benefit if everyone responds to their plans for entry. Shortly, you will see the promotion of this event being amped up. VSCDA has asked for the artwork for the FOT LOGO. BTW, we are self sponsored and now up to 20 "SPONSORS' in the FOT RANKS. Generously, too. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 09:26:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7123C40E22 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:26:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0333406B0 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:24:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MEV001I6K7QYG90@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:23:52 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-12-11_06:2012-12-11,2012-12-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1212110149 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:23:50 -0500 References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net cheapskate that I am, I'm wondering what staying at the track is like? Power in the paddock, decent showers, extra charges for camping? On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: FOT; We have now exceeded our contracted number of suites at the OSTHOF. I need to contract an addendum. They will work with us on this, but I need information. If you have not made reservations yet, but plan to, please contact me. Being at the Osthof is part of the weekend experience and is cost effective when suites are shared. Please respond to this request................................................and our earlier request for your plans to enter. Entry plans are vital for several reasons........for one, VSCDA will use this information to negotiate with track management. It will be to our benefit if everyone responds to their plans for entry. Shortly, you will see the promotion of this event being amped up. VSCDA has asked for the artwork for the FOT LOGO. BTW, we are self sponsored and now up to 20 "SPONSORS' in the FOT RANKS. Generously, too. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 09:34:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931FA40E39 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:34:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s20.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s20.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFED406B0 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:34:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT401-EAS399 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s20.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:33:31 -0800 References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> From: Vince G Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:33:14 -0500 To: Scott Janzen FILETIME=[41D79290:01CDD7BD] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, that's a good question. I'm also racing in a budget and typically camp at the track and love it actually... Perhaps I'll make the haul next year. If I do it would be my first US event. I think the KCup would be a great 1st too... Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-11, at 11:25 AM, "Scott Janzen" wrote: > cheapskate that I am, I'm wondering what staying at the track is like? Power in the paddock, decent showers, extra charges for camping? > > On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > FOT; > > We have now exceeded our contracted number of suites at the OSTHOF. > > I need to contract an addendum. They will work with us on this, but I need > information. > > If you have not made reservations yet, but plan to, please contact me. > > Being at the Osthof is part of the weekend experience and is cost effective > when suites are shared. > > Please respond to this > request................................................and our earlier request > for your plans to enter. > > Entry plans are vital for several reasons........for one, VSCDA will use this > information to negotiate with track management. It will be to our benefit if > everyone responds to their plans for entry. > > Shortly, you will see the promotion of this event being amped up. VSCDA has > asked for the artwork for the FOT LOGO. > > BTW, we are self sponsored and now up to 20 "SPONSORS' in the FOT RANKS. > Generously, too. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 09:35:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FA940E2B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:35:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13F2406B2 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:34:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 086161C00016D; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 787D8E000081; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:34:12 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> To: sjanzen@me.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.97) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:34:11 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:34:11 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355243652; bh=0Bgge7Grdil72A5otu/pf+riNEu6LntwnVLdIwd7thg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AVg6fHasJzNdRI75XI4/hb+neqi5rLCxttC3jbPQ49zhAFHjK10j8+SOKIwAZ6Dvh sB3dWrUFqQZEpQ2ZHGI8at/oFaN5t8zczt6NpRZ6M1ZvItTjSENeXQBQ2yoJh9ByMP IsfyVN8bFADFbNDysYCvE4kyx1raSFg8AUHZL8TY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294850c760843416 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ROADAMERICA.COM will give you all of that information. Road America charges for everything, but the infrastructure for camping is excellent. I usually prefer staying at the track, myself. It's a great place to be when the track goes to sleep and wakes up in the morning. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:23 am Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS cheapskate that I am, I'm wondering what staying at the track is like? Power in the paddock, decent showers, extra charges for camping? On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: FOT; We have now exceeded our contracted number of suites at the OSTHOF. I need to contract an addendum. They will work with us on this, but I need information. If you have not made reservations yet, but plan to, please contact me. Being at the Osthof is part of the weekend experience and is cost effective when suites are shared. Please respond to this request................................................and our earlier request for your plans to enter. Entry plans are vital for several reasons........for one, VSCDA will use this information to negotiate with track management. It will be to our benefit if everyone responds to their plans for entry. Shortly, you will see the promotion of this event being amped up. VSCDA has asked for the artwork for the FOT LOGO. BTW, we are self sponsored and now up to 20 "SPONSORS' in the FOT RANKS. Generously, too. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 09:42:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DC440E41 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:42:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C1040E31 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:41:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id e13so18277422iej.18 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:40:55 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :x-priority:references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to :cc:from:date:content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=G0Hs3HhVOxDFge4oZBoF8I8mFjvIYqVBcUs9RTj9SY0=; b=nrqLj45yM78HoH2WolmdNK6Dn2IUeYb96schW/1rCRS4HJu7PtmC26AX/qSOoK9hWb YxxhzneIAHnxGSl10cE782Ju6tE+Odhq3gcK+8a0AsdsgU5vQ0k0vmCZ4XeEXr7KvVkU 8r/14VNxLzZa4h5DBPk3rDFgzZVGJMf3JOEyEFlUZacUbO1KfkrEch1U5e44ISgponU6 CKEclFGVPaehaqEXXhx1Grj3OqQnrsZqXlQVmGgXPTdKlpYqdtWGOyhP3tbTG2brV8/q WACU0GiDHR5G67K9QhJ2wgLh7b4NGdSX9UXfTz7Cnt8nXJcx4qh6T/hFLYuLul+IBalm FEBQ== Received: by 10.50.237.6 with SMTP id uy6mr10724850igc.31.1355244055719; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:40:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.188 (bda-74-82-80-128.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c3sm9016948igj.1.2012.12.11.08.40.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:40:55 -0800 (PST) References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Scott Janzen" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"Joe Alexander" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:40:52 +0000 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, All the cool people stay at the track. Don't worry about that. They have half way decent showers and all that. We usually do the stuff downtown elkhart and osthoff then head back to the track for some serious campfire and a level of partying to be determined by whether or not your car is working or not. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: Joe Alexander Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS cheapskate that I am, I'm wondering what staying at the track is like? Power in the paddock, decent showers, extra charges for camping? On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: FOT; We have now exceeded our contracted number of suites at the OSTHOF. I need to contract an addendum. They will work with us on this, but I need information. If you have not made reservations yet, but plan to, please contact me. Being at the Osthof is part of the weekend experience and is cost effective when suites are shared. Please respond to this request................................................and our earlier request for your plans to enter. Entry plans are vital for several reasons........for one, VSCDA will use this information to negotiate with track management. It will be to our benefit if everyone responds to their plans for entry. Shortly, you will see the promotion of this event being amped up. VSCDA has asked for the artwork for the FOT LOGO. BTW, we are self sponsored and now up to 20 "SPONSORS' in the FOT RANKS. Generously, too. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 09:45:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9806040E45 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:45:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D931940E40 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:44:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBBGiA79026262; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:44:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:44:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Scott Janzen References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, Scott Janzen wrote: > cheapskate that I am, I'm wondering what staying at the track is like? > Power in the paddock, decent showers, extra charges for camping? >From experience: staying at the track is okay. There's decent showers available and not too hard to find. I forget the charge for camping, but it was reasonable. Actually, we might have camped for free at the 2007 MOTRAH event based on our entry fee / crew status. The one problem with Road America is that it can get fairly cold, based on the 2007 experience. It was in the 30's on SUN morming. That was May, but Sep might not be any "better" in that regard. My current plan is to camp. But I might change my mind if I can get a group from New England to make the trek. On the other hand, I might be making a stop at RA on my way back from Solo Nationals... my plans are that much "up in the air" right now. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 09:51:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FEB40E1D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:51:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB044064D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:51:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9BB201C0001CD for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6D6C9E000081 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:50:16 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.97) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:50:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:50:16 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355244616; bh=vTuh9UNuRwa4J2Wv2fSg/HlvwSxf1pkaHGmHkfW6kIs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H7fc8uisMeW9WRseV30gHXgeKGSmcpUzwXWoEQOEpm36xdEEkBEcozvcoaK+fQhUx FWTKAUemIUBBQoj7rcSdLEtLdtZ0wfV/tG3E+l1BYqldKJ9Tqpw8t3IZl3uKyruaIv Gy3nEA9srOKsfV4moNkmSYP8vk69MbeafPwlo3+o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c850c76448131c Subject: [Fot] INFORMATION SOURCES KCUP 2013 and THANK YOU! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net roadamerica.com vscda.org osthoff.com fot-racing.com We want to thank everyone who have reported their intentions to enter or attend. Also, thanks to all who have made early reservations at the OSTHOFF. Extreme appreciation goes to those who are making this event financially possible. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 09:57:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E88040E29 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:57:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2E0406B0 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:57:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9C2741C0000A9; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 27428E000088; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:56:55 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> <1990299364-1355244053-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1196878571-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> To: jason@multivintage.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.97) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:56:54 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:56:55 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355245015; bh=FHcLh7SgT+xh8w4ogwNAprWvvDe7yBlTcsU132Uz+dg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hx9QW7JdJJ35RVo6GXorTFWMFOJucXvObyCuQSJYmqPqnfUNtOGNzLJj6sOjaCTit LXH2CcuNb+qy8lwU2YgAf7dQzumMgymDDtnt1eJlAVLb6rsRZ+Re6RZzl2n/7fCOYg oov4B1G9Ly4jS1fZqIVuDB/cVwUV6Wcz3u+RgM/c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d50c765d76e59 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What Jason said.....exactly. Except the showers are almost first class KOHLER. ALSO, the more information we have on entries and attendees, the easier it will be to ask for PADDOCK SPACE to contain us all. I am particularly interested in the layout of the paddock as that is where we spend most of our time. Jason, I plan to go in a day early to garner space in the paddock. Want to help? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 10:29:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA19440E52 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:29:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D679F40645 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:28:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2012 17:27:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.35] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2012 17:27:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2012 17:27:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355246878; bh=ZDpI4zic5gf/5hjToe/Z9930sddKEPAK+klGhfOkYHc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=Z/nH5dyypcvUst8nvTFS1MUYOIy/eoqRBYa8GqJG4k5nmADwxvOh8YTR+RPBZl8yc5CCP4elhRVle/XzHuhlPvrLzQIfk9uXXDZZ0oJBl9ccPtWz3WuDjjIlLNiD0IjXtcu8R0O19Wh0ClKaeYhQnLlobVFQTWqxTaEd8dTDV+o= dgg1_qdL.TWBQdysKgZT1gwJtbKa_PM67sMmBFp8bbHMJ.DeK2fXnlnKn1DE m3LqJaeqEWdQ0IKu0To52Q5i5t4JOLj36_uJs7_NtMN0qXZkJzd875h.hz0C sr8jKV9j.x3CZnq5EZxmgMoNr51xBA2CmPsHgEE9hXj1u0YwHyCM86Dx6ys9 sJqdjNQ7xtkMnadwTdOURHJXJ3CriBDj.lLGkfUdHXvT1MjfgaBhDKA0_eug sviSvO.AafKjcZL9qQMnW2nfONwAE8inKLqxTBgnsnI90yVzXBDT5wm0DmwS bK3XAQowkfIQcY8hbeLoxzkhaLk03Y0FqXwqgo1LtODSJybBhZHEz1VsKOfB lB.CS.Uqe2bf_tzHObkdMzm.wB8dI0yhm.rsdjEcF9gYfMNALi85qzSq8KoD XadGnFurp5EPx_os9KUJxg8DSCf3XyOv76.gH2R0k82VM_KZD2zMqH4Aec37 UGR4KK5QMEn3A.k5hoelnpHsgBA-- Received: from [10.226.224.221] (tylerpthompson@174.255.131.97 with xymcookie) by smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2012 09:27:58 -0800 PST References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> From: Yahoo Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:27:22 -0700 To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 30 degrees. Do we need to bring spikes! Ty Sent from my iPhone '63 Triumph TR4 DP Race Car ++++ On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:44 AM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, Scott Janzen wrote: > >> cheapskate that I am, I'm wondering what staying at the track is like? Power in the paddock, decent showers, extra charges for camping? > > From experience: staying at the track is okay. There's decent showers available and not too hard to find. I forget the charge for camping, but it was reasonable. Actually, we might have camped for free at the 2007 MOTRAH event based on our entry fee / crew status. > > The one problem with Road America is that it can get fairly cold, based on the 2007 experience. It was in the 30's on SUN morming. That was May, but Sep might not be any "better" in that regard. > > My current plan is to camp. But I might change my mind if I can get a group from New England to make the trek. > > On the other hand, I might be making a stop at RA on my way back from Solo Nationals... my plans are that much "up in the air" right now. > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 10:38:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEF440E46 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:38:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F42040E01 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:37:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 64E0738000052; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1558FE000086; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:37:10 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> <4BC14D99-7C39-4A03-80F0-E29CBE9F68C4@yahoo.com> To: tylerpthompson@yahoo.com, lang@isis.mit.edu Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.97) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:37:09 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:37:09 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355247430; bh=oMqTJs7+AxYq+7kHHmpbqEKCfPvUcBFh+I1dyDXbOy8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vN8ajVNlRQirdFySVbv+DPBDywn8gD5YFnGB7EnYZsjK6fHwpVrlpKf7ADNl+3ZQ7 FkDfwcigPrTuDuZzGc7U9vBpNqOk3Zi2kl9LwHOpYuOKHvJ/UmHRbbLkZY9kX3GONh nrfRI8VF8PD+UsP5r4clozOp+O2kmzLhsNSPQf6g= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50c76f466980 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net WRONG! This is the first weekend after AUGUST! Bob was talking about the first weekend in May. 30 degrees. Do we need to bring spikes! TySent from my iPhone'63 Triumph TR4 DP Race Car++++On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:44 AM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote:> _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 10:45:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC73640E58 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:45:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765F940E46 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:40:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EE9591C000114; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mta003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.137]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C0148E000088; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:39:57 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:39:57 -0500 (EST) To: tylerpthompson@yahoo.com, lang@isis.mit.edu x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355247597; bh=y44/Qgu94/2xi2o8VjlsZO9iUB4QoNWclOYPZifv5AI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vtT75IZzx/RWvY8EPPq9kqM7c4ReBaSGC1e6FjsyNtyepjXWvnnIomWews/+kCVsr i4P4PpXw53Xx9wx+ELZv2bYz7gPL2qwSY/vbFmMIGg6HYacMjvAAdKEIreU8L9JzVm 65hpQs860AxrXHVpRrMlYR+dVr6Xa5WQAn9FcnLg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d50c76fed03d8 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 12/11/2012 11:28:17 AM Central Standard Time, tylerpthompson@yahoo.com writes: > 30 degrees. Do we need to bring spikes! > The September vintage event at ROAD AMERICA has usually been blessed with what we call 'Indian Summer' weather. Yes, cooler nights and mornings, but summer like weather during the day. Yes, Wisconsin weather can be an issue, but I've lived here all my life and September and October are our best months. For sure bring a sweat shirt and/or jacket for in the morning or at night, but expect to get by with short sleeves and shorts during the day. With any luck, the trees will begin showing their fall colors. If you don't get to experienced that where you are from...you will be in for a treat. Quite frankly, it does not get any better. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 10:45:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629AC42265 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:45:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com (mail-ie0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D6340E38 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:41:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 16so13487217iea.40 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:41:01 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from:date :content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=/idiertS+U0YGuUh9M6G1VCeXKet2qVuK3wJ/AvU4IE=; b=UuEoKuDBsGGXiVC6QlDi6n1GuMI7Me3iUDIDRwUfxlIca/kkTkFoU3irDIy/+M+51h z2QEH6LmJP7ZSpNz6L42QPNfin2PGHzZKnynOpG1XB7sLtuD2lDw1P8zwdPxLudhNAYY dqvhpNiLFKOZTKBV6zDVqfXmiy/2FnNc4y9hng5YXppOSkcrf0O0ytnl2S2U5JW1uUcZ NX2k47wKVyp1iLXHA7QMXWsE2/GWddG59ldnp4T1GkZsCOfx9zmt7cgj1dZR32SJS2Oa OKdmg/O8hUjUoJxozqeoodScfIg6RS9roTniE5+xqqbIBbRcVgFaBfOMLTm2ilgP+wIl ClAg== Received: by 10.50.88.168 with SMTP id bh8mr10515528igb.71.1355247660960; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.188 (bda-74-82-80-128.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l8sm9935493igo.13.2012.12.11.09.40.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:41:00 -0800 (PST) References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> <1990299364-1355244053-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1196878571-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> <8CFA5D7A87D09C2-A94-9777@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Joe Alexander" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:40:57 +0000 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, I will gladly help with that. Concerning power in the paddock... There are some outlets placed in certain areas. But there is no guarantee that we will all have access. I always bring the cords AND the generator to RA. Sometimes you get easy acesss sometimes you don't. Efforts will certainly be made for Triumph area to have power near but that will shake out in due time. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:56:55 To: Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS What Jason said.....exactly. Except the showers are almost first class KOHLER. ALSO, the more information we have on entries and attendees, the easier it will be to ask for PADDOCK SPACE to contain us all. I am particularly interested in the layout of the paddock as that is where we spend most of our time. Jason, I plan to go in a day early to garner space in the paddock. Want to help? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 11:47:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5409C40E22 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:47:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s41.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s41.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.51.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CAB4040A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:47:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT403-EAS411 ([65.55.90.137]) by snt0-omc3-s41.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:46:21 -0800 References: <1e18e.743690a5.3df8c9ed@aol.com> From: Vince G Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:46:08 -0500 To: "BillDentin@aol.com" FILETIME=[D0332FB0:01CDD7CF] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 30, heck that's tropical for me :) Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-11, at 12:44 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/2012 11:28:17 AM Central Standard Time, > tylerpthompson@yahoo.com writes: > > >> 30 degrees. Do we need to bring spikes! >> > The September vintage event at ROAD AMERICA has usually been blessed with > what we call 'Indian Summer' weather. Yes, cooler nights and mornings, but > summer like weather during the day. Yes, Wisconsin weather can be an issue, > but I've lived here all my life and September and October are our best > months. For sure bring a sweat shirt and/or jacket for in the morning or at > night, but expect to get by with short sleeves and shorts during the day. With > any luck, the trees will begin showing their fall colors. If you don't get > to experienced that where you are from...you will be in for a treat. Quite > frankly, it does not get any better. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 13:35:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3DB40E4E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:35:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F46040E22 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:35:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c14so16867561ieb.0 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:34:47 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PCJrUch5HaHpHhFXpWbgtkvOSp+4rz4sQikJiol048w=; b=ieJfj5K4Wq49lVqAXQbR5jsppmN28sdHp/SC4upzS/H5DwsrMYWiVKlElsK1F61uLh onGZPV/7GQq98x+w3I0DniTLCQ2RlZYU5aFVC8J27Ge30Hyllw2bAwQ9J7BzHJEE8JMs CxA34/8+A8yLBz+AiAm7TWdqGI4g2ppnSB0Vg/kEaOPhwzyzoqXQsF8Yy6RhRaOFNcbu I8v3TeXopviNQnB5XUKXPWhILARfWqpEryOzMr1GLihdf6x6Gu5pObcSz+dKzmZbwPTA CP10jOL9LOLUt4m2lHDCDGqYUf6+cYDoXhsNcGvBjWj0wHsAHo55i16HGp6oyKC+2x0W hEzw== Received: by 10.50.187.197 with SMTP id fu5mr11108179igc.70.1355258087442; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:34:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:34:47 -0800 (PST) References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> <1990299364-1355244053-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1196878571-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> <8CFA5D7A87D09C2-A94-9777@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:34:47 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Will there be a "Test n Tune" day on Thursday [aka, get to know the track]? On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > What Jason said.....exactly. Except the showers are almost first class > KOHLER. > > ALSO, the more information we have on entries and attendees, the easier it > will be to ask for PADDOCK SPACE to contain us all. I am particularly > interested in the layout of the paddock as that is where we spend most of > our > time. > > Jason, I plan to go in a day early to garner space in the paddock. Want to > help? > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 16:45:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EBD40E4D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:45:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A683406B2 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184D4A1388 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:45:03 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:45:03 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Sweet Sixteen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net December 11, 1996 - The first of many messages to this FOT list went out. Still one of my favorite lists, with lots of great people! Happy Birthday to all of us! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 17:06:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44E640E57 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:06:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA44B406B0 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:04:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aPX51k0031wfjNsAEQ3NMU; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:03:22 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aQ3M1k00D2vctGa8jQ3MEW; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:03:21 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "Friends of Triumph" References: <50C7C57F.5060406@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:03:19 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1355270602; bh=V9OTAgaHFyJPasLWYhES1P+ysEUntSmmINuEoWmYtq4=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=No78vwj2FrMVqsvGeDp9G3pYBg+sAQvEaQD/8fUvN+cLRbVMhLkUPb9qYiLE/e+M0 UMkHqPP+PNvq4Z7UnZ8r7XBWcPYyigJVv0Zdnk3sSBJMN/JaZmRtDArKedsXTPXfkH R7SzRXNwbPD6An6FSi3y7mp/Ui23lHofZ1tdf+mA1i1uTlXBelW13cUaroUys+Gww0 NizK04QHlpoVqCBGSCY1XeM00aVr/2v2EqVmNFqg/HS0e8XGkKEGFr/Oix2vlFBB/D +Iv8CVYjy4dNe5GxQ38AO26QmbB5gfVKybzTpvqMrXEVwunaoa7SsCB4JZz+qTUMwj NveJ81NvRpZqg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Sweet Sixteen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net HAPPY BIRTHDAY FOT! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:45 PM Subject: [Fot] Sweet Sixteen > December 11, 1996 - The first of many messages to this FOT list went out. > > Still one of my favorite lists, with lots of great people! > > Happy Birthday to all of us! > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 18:18:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8492340E41 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:18:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BAA40416 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:18:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MEW0005Q8WRYU20@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:17:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "Friends of Triumph" References: <50C7C57F.5060406@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:17:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sweet Sixteen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mine's tomorrow, 12-12-12!!!!!! And I'm ssure not 16 anymore!!!! (I'll be singing the old Beatles song). Peace. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:45 PM Subject: [Fot] Sweet Sixteen > December 11, 1996 - The first of many messages to this FOT list went out. > > Still one of my favorite lists, with lots of great people! > > Happy Birthday to all of us! > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 06:24:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D27A40E58 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:24:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5F940511 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:24:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.189] by nm30.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 13:23:26 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.232] by tm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 13:23:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 13:23:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 66235 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2012 13:23:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355318605; bh=cv3NgHHNkmwIZgFFFJGuSbDLo2FT0e33LXa8igCXU8k=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p0/7ToT4ldKN/H9dY0LQOBGwrkMC0LVchNA0WQF24QQmM93rH1PtFWoT5iw8fkiWQYWG3iKLR69wSz58LpiIzFTR0R5O8KiJK3U53f9pxL4YXLNP9hwaZWhOxSQWkaB7y2HY5p+mD5O17G4YQNzxGTyNHsaOqb3IyplfSJQtX/E= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mZhGw5qlL/p4aitqxszgBaNihUmxI8NSqbmDRhQWDKgCR54GsAuqn23+zXUN8ZKvqqNB4KuI9S2lCGBUodpEjfCtWiE7cTUC9MBXuYW9kLCk+OXq5UIY4C0JLYuFPXFmlapSlyfPEh9l4vcXtfV5eyUWwlu/uhGvOBRQIY8LDwM=; _TDJCq4YY4KTHnCG7nzT1I8Q4SSEgRVURRE0A9R85FmGX37p57P7hHZdYW8G 82RR9m7925GTJqrPnoQ2gO0H.INuqFiiQbVppEKRiWC7CWr24Uggck2cMvg2 HhWzOaANgTWa4aAFmPhtNZHJrmOgnjbKBGF9269npjC0st9hSq1lmwBJPj3f dSVkKmE4z2CtikxnCldBR113lu4gLG8Mx_hw3GVMe0HZjCePhdMbX2NTRN5i 0e6CZay8S_tKaUSBAjtDui69eG_KLxS6OHrI1WPdcO9wLyaQAAUukjSIdIju 01CIlxoeT.lvNV9PP2uiyIeZ0LgR8G__Mkp1ct3jbSG7wOG69RsXsTiAhXFL Wvx9MPkaLJjIBNpU4Lb9GDsY.TBeLxtpnTRyGs2CRAOM5L.HJafOBk_4P2.k XL.Wo4499eng3e2jcXWeP7B5c1MDKNYUwg5pGVHhPvTFe12gy.QP2365CWpv Z3mz9oacFmtxE53Cp2VGGwv9MEg-- Received: from [98.139.245.150] by web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:23:25 PST V2UgaGF2ZSBhIFRSOCBzaXR0aW5nIGluIGZyb250IG9mIHVzLiBJbnB1dCBvbiB3aGF0IHlvdSB0aGluayB3ZSBzaG91bGQgZG8gd2l0aCBpdD8gSXQgaXMgaW4gZ29vZCBzaGFwZSwgbm8gcnVzdCwgZGVjZW50IHBhaW50LCBzb2Z0IHRvcCwgZG9lc24ndCBzdGFydCBhbmQgaGFzIGJlZW4gZ2FyYWdlZCBmb3IgbW9yZSB0aGFuIDUgeWVhcnMuIFdoYXQgc2hvdWxkIHdlIGRvIHdpdGggaXQ_Pz8gSEVMUCHCoMKgIFNoYXduCgoKU2VudCBmcm9tIFlhaG9vISBNYWlsIG9uIEFuZHJvaWQKCgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:23:25 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? HELP! Shawn Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 06:56:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A84140E47 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:56:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BCF40E43 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:56:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id adsM1k00B1HpZEsA3dvEDB; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:14 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id advA1k00N3UuT0T8advEw1; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:14 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Shawn Frank'" , Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:45:04 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3YbJaz7ni6s7bMS4GKDiu229t6nwAAkGUg s=q20121106; t=1355320514; bh=GlkwictnEshIYU0htTdHxl+1BLB0seH+jK+1eqFZcjM=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DLylXq2rGI/QD3A71uHcjEHwbrvulw+HMUFvdvrP7TfSrmz7pYvnEOW89wmhX2CpO aDTaiMNaFrIC7SqxjumIs5FaRvM5E7oy7tQoVWpsZTfiF37L58IBLVp2HcGoihka8i jeMFQLumwFucZJ3dObMS9i6yZAOFhnhTWuKLuNN9epShi1x3yIhNDedvSh7+YykSVJ p2BOwXD9grVuNPflfQ2Y0z0LFApiiBJTLhj6icgJbjMXkPFkw+uJa+k+2LBzs35Xer lASEikI31N218WdJgaVbQcnGX+RmD3w+ZflusUIeFHT3q0RhnNQ7cV8v9LWd8BoHzK ZMjDPBXdBiGTA== Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Race it. jim g -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:23 AM To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? HELP! Shawn Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 07:08:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090F64225E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:08:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7A6403E4 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:07:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 816DC38000078; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (71-13-26-216.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com [71.13.26.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 160E9E0000AD; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:07:07 -0500 (EST) References: <20121212135616.0353640E60@autox.team.net> From: John Houlton Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:07:03 -0600 To: Jim Gray x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355321227; bh=vK8bTDayz50SBR3mKqOzp52sGxWqFmAgBH5LMqMaWd4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=nV7IbbZFuXYJRDVh8J6ecxi+CD8R89AcT1RcudbkSUuCiOOyhN7GvOOKRBH1MC5y1 WDPYmMO653nBGqL9lkxqVsFC3cgvkoYyeXVwwTDxXFRjqn2PSQb+14XSBYH6w+3Y+i jjNGY0XZ6hqLAnsWvStOEVzOgb9T3fxR82Ud+jwg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290550c88f897ea9 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, race it. Race it now! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:45 AM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > Race it. > > > jim g > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Shawn Frank > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:23 AM > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction > > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 07:23:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DFB40E54 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:23:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F1C40E47 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:22:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 14:21:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.212] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 14:21:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 14:21:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355322085; bh=J4Kq0G8O8L82AvBi79gSvZW0T5Pq8IhUlMiM8/ZVntk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=cnb1cS0WXLu4YJK5j0TzLmiOHqRpknXAeQ25PsvZ9gRvJAPFNSIckzKIc2Zt6oKFld1MYEwHVtL6Y5BDSpPCJXY5bvfhOWns1I+m2tV6etphHyz1jiEVCC+Y82RqoisP7UlJOfFDZzuu6Ne3V8vUKuElF5bc0ZednYbDEXJBdTI= efyMHdHY_LqvW_BZ72WJabWYn.h2o85T.mtm_8wQ9HkP52MIAcL.hKa6qPEp Eetm17vKWU7rqrlMPcEAYOHrWMiKvM1poJpflSAUHA0rJ_9IYwB718B.BtFc 1Yo8ZqL2kVMNmGek4ppoN9NM_y3X1Ei0gmmhZPMk4JQhYBzPgtkFHiLPV6Os gEOM.BTuADtBD3KKlfbtUSH3GfbhILVSZVMSoe3rw_N80bFqHkvS6jKCoHjI UQBQjmbgeXKWnJN52hAdW_tMYBJSfrdSA4ictO7I1UmnnyrLEEGNesrlZPIu t8vsJfY7PFHTRAm.wkuFlnqO2uOsSkQr2yNyfZ7IuMnA7U392MuNPYZaQa2l sgGKgUzTZGcdlKvzWZ26TOq8WdheOB9Rw.BdXM2ORfrqp1EH.xfbwue2fB3. K3QVUqiH4XhbtAalSD6m1CNsVPbkGoUU.XiNxD5SYXObN6Z85E_IN1YM- Received: from richardiipc (tarch@98.66.163.53 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2012 06:21:25 -0800 PST From: "Richard Taylor" To: "'John Houlton'" , "'Jim Gray'" References: <20121212135616.0353640E60@autox.team.net> <3647B9A2-1059-4A13-8379-AA01D0E6ED2F@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:21:26 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3YcgZ3Wg+fcrLPRvCmRVLKDrZZIAAARLXA Content-Language: en-us Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The smart option is to restore it! Spend 2 years and $35,000 on it. Make it a beautify machine and sell it for $25,000. You've only lost 2 years and 10 Gs. Think about how much farther ahead you are than if you raced it....:) Richard Taylor TR-4 196 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Houlton Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:07 AM To: Jim Gray Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Yes, race it. Race it now! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:45 AM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > Race it. > > > jim g > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Shawn Frank > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:23 AM > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction > > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we > should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft > top, doesn't start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tarch@bellsouth.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 07:24:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87E44227E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:24:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr04.ntelos.net (mailrtr04.ntelos.net [216.12.0.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A1C40E4A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:23:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr04.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id qBCEMXSO002216; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:22:33 -0500 Received: from d-128-235-112.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-235-112.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.235.112]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:22:33 -0500 References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:22:33 -0500 From: "R. John Lye" To: "Shawn Frank" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Race car! John On Wed, December 12, 2012 8:23 am, Shawn Frank wrote: > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't > start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 07:28:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505A842263 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:28:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C2E403F0 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:27:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.62] by nm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 14:27:08 -0000 Received: from [98.136.185.196] by tm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 14:27:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 14:27:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355322428; bh=6DAZbEnQf2sDbqwMnDLdWDP6muEo+1hZHQxgSyvCa0o=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=BZC+uk5KMB0U1Fdauf3vQDElW2tfs9goaYHqloiYfwdZ8ttigStWEfeT0QLJK+kIoLR8JGZd2U/kZdD2c1nmcM1+8Ply812RgLglaJE/tzUVM+sLo3MCb9oE0NbDPP++yCivAoWOJnTyDiVqzeUDbOZqK1lr/dQwtK3T5v6zvdQ= H35d6HZefz2GvJkguiwZ6aYeOp09nD3SMfezlh3rbEd5.3BZev.jyVhRYPXN 0WfvzioCIvKWl5FA2pnn21vc94QTkW2zu7afvtZG1RBET2DMf671nQWr.W4S mOoPdbT2evYu.QhnUkULF2NVu7sy.wuzmXTvRxU4GSEPcIDrfB0MZCmFDKBN YBPmLli.hgOGUEbwsjTk1ijPfnmQpyiT.Kg_1TL.ffwxbClowROIIz3CGgUp XQSg4l7tZVdfQhMFEo3xSq7RbTGdWqjhOa9o46yPtwp5vnNyAcszvF3BT2YT vvQCX3Gx_JEpRidcRT.x2YV7VORx3rMtb0ev9G4f96n3Kk57QGpGC7HXiA8y 2W9UBrvkRLKjTJyT56mS4ws2LmOGKYnZuB2rq2EpcFwF4iuQFikd3WUJdso6 t9RkecS0nGWwb7FlFpzvwAWrPJTd01Kg54gj2hD2NmryV4KGveYJkOt_krkH eiCtE29FZJmZ7IJMZ Received: from [10.206.110.112] (fasttrs@166.205.49.221 with xymcookie) by smtp105-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2012 06:27:08 -0800 PST References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:27:03 -0600 To: Shawn Frank Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Carb or FI? Each have their idiosyncrasies. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Shawn Frank wrote: > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 07:47:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F35540EAA for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:47:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc4-s11.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s11.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B9640E47 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:46:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT402-EAS433 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s11.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:46:03 -0800 References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Vince G Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:45:49 -0500 To: Shawn Frank FILETIME=[68A034D0:01CDD877] Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Could it be a "street able track day car"? You'd get more seat time and pleasure for your money and leave a door open to further convert to full race later. It would make an excellent race car for sure. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-12, at 8:23 AM, "Shawn Frank" wrote: > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 07:50:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E0740E51 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:50:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229AD40E4A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:50:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.189] by nm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 14:49:36 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.253] by tm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 14:49:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1061.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 14:49:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 68286 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2012 14:49:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355323775; bh=wRn/8CQyxNPcn/MLoGbKi6bnTfcImZcCD1gH2NwIDx4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=16sG4GtxZlELLq+eMhSb1k3WYzvPupxGK/ueYoEOIf7mCcmeSlX9z32FU9UwRisCYD2li4YmGbw1frLC6ThVpuWjGKD2NrtBWZGqmktvr8XjS8iOLFsD1Z/pM3ZmMVRn9J57sSycD7Bq0otc0uVJQnLZhTFk75vep1JEWgfHo+4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=quvDSSo3sL+KvOswL9pC8Ddutz5C8rRwyyNOtXXb2il5WmDpMTy/oMnnBhk+1JPs7tHWq8Rl/BgGYRtMhLb5ZRR7IhiYqonKBxbYAevZKnGApLYq0G8W99FbxPkA87yU9NhdWiYlw08f37Fdtfzu7S50K7LHtiiA9RQsjsxrC30=; LnsEoWVpVpEtImsjR8wYVUdACZ1.9.za.JgzuUKwScdQSvnQ6R65DA0MblaD HY.RP_ZS0xdyc.0Krdx4nS5V4J7Vw9Jme3yreT9Y24YFqB7Go06e.lhDW2JN 69GHhmeESgtB6wPe4_0S86P2cRwXYzeynF8cJ7bF5tOvGB.tIvkhL.nvZbHE 38saaI2HI6ImSwrpvvN6rwy07buQ2z6SYb.60BHX3vJE.AV7zXLAE.Pcmq2N rt_4UdQ52v8NcfmJZlj5_u82kk4gbQVTdOnw8QgGK389.jiAuBuLNLfT50ki dhPlnWV_McWSNmsGrf9sy3IBIO8Ui1l_TGrIXkKejB5pmV3aYHjDi9bqRqfP 0nMFgX_m50A4COxPf9kQSD19N_nCrmv9NDcBCi6n4q7CHpcFuihEMCIc_JE_ ler7HxpTlQaTT1TwPBs_Bci4WwxSIJbLb Received: from [64.196.19.194] by web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:49:35 PST SXQgaXMgYSAxOTgwIGNvbnZlcnRpYmxlLCBncmVlbiwgd2l0aCBBQy4gSXQgaXMgYSB2ZXJ5IG5pY2UgZmluZCBmb3IgdGhlIHByaWNlLCBhbmQgd291bGQgbm90IHRha2UgbXVjaCB0byBnZXQgaXQgb24gdGhlIHJvYWQuIFNob3VsZCB3ZSBkbyBhbiBFZGVsYnJvY2sgbWFuaWZvbGQgYW5kIGNhcmI_wqDCoCBTaGF3bgoKU2VudCBmcm9tIFlhaG9vISBNYWlsIG9uIEFuZHJvaWQKCgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:49:35 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: "fasttrs@yahoo.com" Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It is a 1980 convertible, green, with AC. It is a very nice find for the price, and would not take much to get it on the road. Should we do an Edelbrock manifold and carb? Shawn Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 08:03:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1A840E56 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:03:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570F54041A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:02:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.63] by nm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 15:02:08 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.207] by tm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 15:02:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2012 15:02:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 78483 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2012 15:02:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355324527; bh=VV+XB9Rw3ktthLoSTPGrRma7w9AnemLbB86Gbtfin5Q=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uDAcLh++YF8e7NO3BrE6Eh0eTzGWuejToROLYgW1usfsRoKBf/tCmXP5H+Vly1pqM0ObZSjFjFJWicHT8nbvUzsd7aeJcFMBhtO0tDmJc9LKxPuL/aVfl0vnRNKHpA7kuot5KJXOMUk5Kx0lZVYyhBeh5oz5jfVEXG7dLfXJCuw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lzREFqNzT650XSSWRdEVtfXE6hQgG5OrH8OPLiEcgUByVHzxlm8My4lxAQ9+uyYYrPK4UgMLxDPIBFSCEw6bLzCMqqAnGuGF7heY0ciT+2jkQ8zFnxv3sVFP9oydM9Xcg0HicZsXwh7ohVxWgiE2a5EVhrbW+cdVtpymo447Xmk=; LHT0IaLFDtDAHufLaMbbrMhsr9VYrBhRgl57uJqxA4DQLd20CysYRvXd2Njl 8WqPA7aIvjKGBADph0xTG3UvQbzVQyCYwDthcEuDCfU.V4gE2FsZoXOXGvaI DOD_8i4pCXpVPyWjzm1gE9ORJQ3.P9Ll9YWcMFM8OvotRbBCIrYPDt6DJyt0 Q4NeIggzOBO4.Io4ar4DxZG3XX97yaSShn2nQ8j8qWC_xdFPi.C9r3611j9A 0K59DKQiFbQQc_KgTLUpaVkmVOqi_OXYnH6qsE98lEBCEgoOrQzMcxDKyMl1 qbnivdr02Zrs740jfnAK04uy30OKHMbtiMuDVGoBbP2hcNSWmldMw.1NNqtG 2Svb.lB6XvIcF0AmCR3itLJE09fi9e6wZcWnWzphjrsRgbuZr_L9PBnRxYDy scuL0kTzV9tlzeZgdNl6u.uBhBqHsq8QMHd2nqr.YiL37fnAYOSK22kHvod1 qIZfd4.CPEGiOcx.3jKiieWkbJoqB76pXI2hoHMlRMIdqxPYZdoyYRuHIkuC A Received: from [98.138.82.162] by web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:02:07 PST SXQgd2lsbCBzdGF5IGluIG91ciBmbGVldCBhcyBvZiByaWdodCBub3cuIEkgYWdyZWUgdGhhdCB3ZSBzaG91bGQgZ2V0IGl0IHJ1bm5pbmcgYW5kIGRyaXZlIGl0LiBJIGFtIGhvcGluZyB0byBoYXZlIDMgb2Ygb3VyIGZsZWV0IGhlYWRpbmcgdG8gdGhlIEtDdXAsIGluY2x1ZGluZyB0aGUgVFI4LCBhIDcxIFNwaXRmaXJlIE1LSVYsIGFuZCBhbiA4MCBTcGl0ZmlyZSAxNTAwLiBJIHdpbGwgdHJ5IHRvIHBvc3QgcGljcyB0b25pZ2h0LCBhcyB3ZSAoZnJpZW5kIG9mIG1pbmUpIGhlYWQgb3ZlciB0byBzZWUgYWIBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:02:07 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: "FOT@autox.team.net" , Me Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It will stay in our fleet as of right now. I agree that we should get it running and drive it. I am hoping to have 3 of our fleet heading to the KCup, including the TR8, a 71 Spitfire MKIV, and an 80 Spitfire 1500. I will try to post pics tonight, as we (friend of mine) head over to see about turning it over tonight. Cross your fingers...shawn Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 08:07:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEBC40FDC for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:07:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F6B4041A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:07:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E34711C0000F1; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.77]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B80C8E000086; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:06:18 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:06:18 -0500 (EST) To: vangoughv@hotmail.com, my71spit13@yahoo.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355324778; bh=8bOtd3fwm9se8ErEsCFCrTQsptbzN3QwizyNTI+grBY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PNDuT89fsEeecCCuCDLGOg2RbKBEpN3kUbRGBw6l4+ACXqNxzgkIubLTIf6iPIYk+ xpmk8v3QScrzkxZO/Od7LxPXJ4a1iQGP8NPpXEEJiFBivSKLKUtdviEAlABewv6w4q +BYxLu4W2CZlD4FZJrJlQcudch0AOMJraa+UHo3Q= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50c89d6a4eac Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 12/12/2012 8:46:14 AM Central Standard Time, vangoughv@hotmail.com writes: > Could it be a "street able track day car"? > You'd get more seat time and pleasure for your money and leave a door open > to > further convert to full race later. It would make an excellent race car > for sure. > More than a few people think that aluminum engine is one of the best engines ever built. We had one in a Buick mid-sized convertible, and it was a great little car. Pound for pound...it sure had a lot of power. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 08:34:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E714040B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:34:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53E04040B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:34:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aani1k0091vXlb853fZCrg; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:33:12 +0000 Received: from ComputerPC ([71.60.181.57]) by omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id afZC1k00m1EiJYf3dfZCRQ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:33:12 +0000 From: "Stutzmans" To: "Richard Taylor" , "'John Houlton'" , "'Jim Gray'" References: <20121212135616.0353640E60@autox.team.net><3647B9A2-1059-4A13-8379-AA01D0E6ED2F@aol.com> <004801cdd873$f8ee2e10$eaca8a30$@net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:33:09 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1355326392; bh=uLx+fyyf8aT3EnIZkVMwpyQz3MY6BeJvNLqmkWlIrbw=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=bVDugV+wEd0gEz49+5Tja71Ig+8gxcfyP6nymJddyaYxeRpG7sBZzoolL0NS0MrTp UCIu21I5P7gkaPZl88mzYvXZOrhTt20Ch5Fez2KOr+MZp+jFdhj7rkQcso40P27FJO or3Dm3sRBHCMHrGAa0Njy522qIPDxBzWVksmTVu80IYWVqqyeFbZUDTYpNfyTPcfVN Pplr5Ivrpcck3A3NwfxUaqjNMZfsab+G6EB9yNTbwx2ecGFMfvhr6YpEJShfb381W/ zHB8Oy0nYzpIsujOIWNlyZaeq0sY9XB+ugQbZkquumb1LzeXjMlMCcryMSNjUpr0Ko Hf5dByOmGtUQQ== Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Give the car and $5000 to somebody else. That way you will have only lost $5000 and none of your time. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Taylor" To: "'John Houlton'" ; "'Jim Gray'" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > The smart option is to restore it! > > Spend 2 years and $35,000 on it. Make it a beautify machine and sell it > for > $25,000. You've only lost 2 years and 10 Gs. > > Think about how much farther ahead you are than if you raced it....:) > > Richard Taylor > TR-4 196 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of John Houlton > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:07 AM > To: Jim Gray > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > Yes, race it. Race it now! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:45 AM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > >> Race it. >> >> >> jim g >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Shawn Frank >> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:23 AM >> To: FOT@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction >> >> We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we >> should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft >> top, doesn't > start >> and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? >> HELP! Shawn >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tarch@bellsouth.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 08:59:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E5940EAA for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:59:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25A340434 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:59:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qBCFwUbT026616 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:58:35 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:58:29 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3YgYcsD9VL75NLRhKt0fglkhP+cQ== a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=FnBkQJ4B3a1gK2ORc1sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Trans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Advice on Synchro Rings....TR4 close ratio gears, stock case....The last ones I got from Quantumechanics lasted for almost one race weekend before the shift into 4th. Started to "grind" Now after the 3rd. Race it's starting to "grind" into 3rd. As well. What's the best choice and from where? Thanks to all..... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. 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I'd say get it to run, get all of the systems back into working order, drive the car to see if you like it then decide what to do with it. D On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Shawn Frank wrote: > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 10:46:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296EF40E4E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:46:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp650.redcondor.net (smtp650.redcondor.net [208.80.206.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF8040512 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:46:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.229.73]) by smtp650.redcondor.net ({9ef01f99-b982-4add-83fd-b7c41c74273c}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20121212174538457; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:45:38 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 439181390; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:45:34 -0600 From: To: "Shawn Frank" , References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:45:33 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net WE have had a few TR8's in here. You will have the usual fuel system and hydraulics movies to attend. If you are going to have fun with it on the street, I would remove all the A/C stuff and put on an offy intake with a small holly with center pivot floats. Get some decent rubber and call it good without a big investment. Making it serious fast will eat you alive. If you don't want to fool with it, contact me off group. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Frank Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:23 AM To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? HELP! Shawn Sent from Yahoo! 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5452 - Release Date: 12/11/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 11:36:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80977403FF for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:36:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F075D403FF for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:36:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5A06D1C0001C1 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1246DE00008C for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:35:49 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com (64.12.91.156) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:35:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:35:48 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355337349; bh=0buM4CfyJ8WW3d3O6roYkx63j+9YzE3waAVHJW50b+4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A8Ej/Hz25ioGo3r+RebsYv0W/Zf/O1dq1zI7A0NEesTRHnqs7UfZgK9DrA7Z4y75m SSbEtenyn/hfjHwM3ze6uwQ/bI7mwmYHHCfuceQtGXvGo1u+VGbB9FjQUyGM7MINHL ZyOTYTBJEeSdWUVdBZuOuSPjPPY1j12BHLv/H2F0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294950c8ce852b7b Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 Information Sources Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, this is exciting. I am getting a big rush of inquiries........ Host Hotel: THE OSTHOFF RESORT HOTEL osthoff.com Lots of action here with the car show and old course reenactment....short walk to historic Siebkins. Rates as I remember them: GUEST ROOM $139.00 One Bedroom Suite $159.00 Two Bedroom Suite $189.00 Three Bedroom Suite $239.00 The suites also have hideabed couches in the living room. Can be Very cost effective when shared. Use FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH when calling in for 20% discount. Use FRIEND for code if reserving online. VSCDA is the Sanctioning Body: vscda.org for all entry information as it becomes available. If you have a SCCA or other TRIUMPH outside the normal guidelines of VINTAGE/HISTORIC, please contact me. There is usually a test and tune option....and cancellation policies are quite liberal. ROAD AMERICA is the venue: roadamerica.com for all camping and gate information, as touring options. As time goes on you will see more information forthcoming from VSCDA and ROAD AMERICA on their websites and in advertising. For a lot of reasons, this is a near perfect fit for this year's KASTNER CUP. Thanks for all of the inquiries in the past few days. The more interest we have, the easier it will be for the FOT and VSCDA to get some added attention from Road America. Considerable attention is being paid to VTR and the immediately surrounding CAR CLUBS......this translates into "GATE" and added excitement for the weekend. Thanks once again, to those folks who have become our SPONSORS for the weekend. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 13:05:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBEB40E9E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:05:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F46C40404 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:05:07 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id gb23so1300903vcb.14 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:04:17 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=jOgOaYj2Tgri2muD7pzaAt9WwnvdR6utzEzE4zbYhGQ=; b=miI3RIfC/kCoxSP8Np9Goum3+V9eLJ+fX1j//2LcgF67/G0vwpsSOjMfsHE4Tk26qe 4Wv+uaZz89n6cfCDYxa1qSkISE08z2ov7gE/ep+MIR2C83nuLQ7YO8neLulgYa+JZqQJ nC0pfjQWNw2J9qC56OQsFTStOr2rcf/jmKKrPpbl0Ibp8Fb0rvOTImHhkkgZRJ1T/siS B42chXAt8WLNXoVF1LtjTBEEEnnxAeTeABtQDJJ7SHTpjjGQ22cPShP42PQ3FkdYBROK pLItA/J8TU6iKuVb3/PG0PfT7jr3P5Vb2dnOdsw+tn1rPCv1KPjLrfA3g1XdvszKa1Th um/g== Received: by 10.220.231.138 with SMTP id jq10mr1188770vcb.29.1355342657583; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.15.5 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:03:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 06:03:57 +1000 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] re Trans (syncro rings) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've given up with recent repros. i buy up every old TR or T2000 box i can find and take the genuine rings out, measure up clearances on a brand new gear and pick the best ones, typically 1st and 4th. if someone has a source of properly made rings, let us all know, but dont dare suggest the crap sold by Moss or Rimmers or County Terry O'Beirne Australia _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 13:18:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBB84225A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:18:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ye0-f169.google.com (mail-ye0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270A8403F7 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:18:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ye0-f169.google.com with SMTP id l13so304506yen.14 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:17:21 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=lbgiXECC1dzQuEWlV2Y9BZscch4yxW1cjgD6hDRC+K0=; b=0J0Gr+18iBfhLdwEV86ORtICg0lPHqU3o/S8x+PI+Ha3r4BO1O/oXCQ0hD5eeYDwCp nzCol6h4gpLsTu2Udfrg5IEcNFBxRJ2nL7ZoiJtMJECmb1KYF2/N4sugCeUDXMVwJOql /NyBVyHb+aF7Xe1qTVEPM+gbPnHKAKJGhe9RdWT+JK49EXPWE9DYWthaDD35RWhB6yMi 7lI9Y1gJ6B2FFUN8ypkO5jqHP+jxpmYShLCQhNgRZJt+puHD/DozOr8Zp8Wcc6p+iN0c 69l7ajuqNKvDPySZ5Z4TycDKJu7TFoCBesnvl61Xh9uHORWTJttwMidcabWHn+OhLmPk oVdA== Received: by 10.236.117.195 with SMTP id j43mr3669363yhh.27.1355343441303; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g3sm20343051ani.18.2012.12.12.12.17.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:17:20 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:17:13 -0600 References: <1355323775.66227.androidMobile@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: Shawn Frank Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The engine will respond to tuning. I recall that the TR8 had a low compression engine, a less-than-ideal intake manifold, and a smog camshaft. Throttle response is greatly improved with a bump in compression and an Edelbrock carb and intake manifold. There is a lot of advice on the 'net about improving performance in these engines, which are the UK equivalent of the 350 small-block Chevy engine as far as performance experience and practice. Our 1971 Morgan Plus 8, which started life with a 3.5 Rover engine (10.25:1 compression ratio), had a rather wheezy salvaged TR8 engine in it when we bought it in 2003. The Morgan now has the same basic BOP/Rover engine but a higher compression ratio (9.35:1), an Edelbrock/Weber/Carter carburetor (easier setup than the Holley -- after all the tuning checks I ended up having changed nothing but the idle mixture and speed) and manifold, a Piper 272 camshaft and coated headers from a later Plus 8. I did port-matching only on the TR8's SD1-spec heads. It retains plenty of low-end torque but it will wind out to 6000+ rpm if one wishes. Want more power? Rover Vitesse heads would be the best stock heads (unless you want to get fancy and use a set of aluminum 1964-only Buick 300 heads; they breathe well -- you'd need to jigger the intake manifold fit and use different exhaust manifolds). There are a couple of aftermarket heads out there (Wildcat is one) but I'm not convinced they are worth the money and trouble yet. There are production versions of the BOP/Rover engine in 3.9 liter, 4.0 (those two share the same B/S but blocks are slightly different), 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5, 4.6, and 5.0 liters but several of those sizes would be hard to find in the US, having been used on TVRs and some Australian cars. The 4.0 and 4.6 injected engines are pretty plentiful and are found in Range Rovers. Probably with what amounts to an RV camshaft, though, better to lug all that weight around. The 4.6 will give 225 hp and 280 lb/ft of torque, not bad given the TR8's weight. Or if that's not enough, upgrade to a 5.2 liter version of the same engine with a little help from RPI. Use the 3.5 front timing cover if you want to stay with a distributor instead of crank-triggered ignition. Not sure what to say about your transmission's reliability, though! Duncan (Texas) On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Shawn Frank wrote: > It is a 1980 convertible, green, with AC. It is a very nice find for the > price, and would not take much to get it on the road. Should we do an > Edelbrock manifold and carb? Shawn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 14:57:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6426040E63 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:57:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F343403EE for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:57:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id alod1k0031c6gX85AlwpgC; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:56:49 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id alwp1k00W2ymm843jlwp5g; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:56:49 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:56:49 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: Shawn Frank s=q20121106; t=1355349409; bh=Oqj/KhFUyD8q7CjW9TifpYIShYh0wEvlcTtKcMqs3ZM=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=iqzlZmojt67r3g5cJi0AVjuCGHNEM4r7BIC9GRWVJkKUWXcinVg3Jy19ng3pxV5eX AJhJ2EejBwzINcFsTdqEQSG919HlGR3CMpVHGi1ERDd2RqosOO3dpVJDsjcCEr4LgL FCV2PTokWrRP6lPRENhcEUww89aPwLnbJhQ+vGegKQo3siFHPecLMPn9mdsEjGrEk2 QkcVDzt7CI4+BnAftJbA6QRhz3eratipDsM+GmlrLmK7cZ+FCZObfzaf3uAyej9YCI PBaFYNOb8uEKQpQtPmBkth9vDi2m4ObO5yFhoFqXuy8/o7wgHKxf12g4WC4O3PfOPe 1cEswrIAJgLVQ== Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Give the owner $2000 and walk away from the car. You will save thousands of dollars and many hundred of hours of your life in the long run. Ed Woods (with credit to my brother Harvey for figuring this out years ago; although I have rarely heeded this advice.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Frank" To: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23:25 AM Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? HELP! B Shawn Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fogbro1@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 15:11:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5BA40E57 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:11:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBE540400 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:10:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MEX000M9UWT6Q80@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for FOT@autox.team.net; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:10:07 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-12-12_09:2012-12-12,2012-12-12,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1212120227 From: Scott Janzen Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:10:04 -0500 References: <355406436.1406566.1355349409223.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: Shawn Frank Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know, folks - most of this advice would apply to any of our cars - walk away? If I cared about my wrench time and money I'd be racing a Miata. Now, maybe a TR8 is not the one most of us love, but I bet they're a hoot to drive. Go ahead - get it running - see if you like it. On Dec 12, 2012, at 4:56 PM, fogbro1@comcast.net wrote: Give the owner $2000 and walk away from the car. You will save thousands of dollars and many hundred of hours of your life in the long run. Ed Woods (with credit to my brother Harvey for figuring this out years ago; although I have rarely heeded this advice.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Frank" To: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23:25 AM Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? HELP! B Shawn Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fogbro1@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 15:31:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694F240E61 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:31:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77384053F for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:31:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:30:42 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "'fogbro1@comcast.net'" , Shawn Frank Thread-Topic: [Fot] TR8 direction Thread-Index: AQHN2Gvr88Gb6Lus0EGcUeW/B0jNo5gWGumA//+j7qA= Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:30:42 +0000 References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <355406436.1406566.1355349409223.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How did this list get taken over by such soulless, fun-sucking pragmatists??? ;-) My vote - Get it running and drive it for a while before you spend any money on it. Then fall in love with it and invest thousands of dollars and weekend hours and either drive it on the street or turn it into a silly, impractical, expensive race car. Just like the rest of us. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of fogbro1@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:57 PM To: Shawn Frank Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Give the owner $2000 and walk away from the car. You will save thousands of dollars and many hundred of hours of your life in the long run. Ed Woods (with credit to my brother Harvey for figuring this out years ago; although I have rarely heeded this advice.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Frank" To: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23:25 AM Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? HELP! B Shawn Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fogbro1@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 16:02:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335BF40E52 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:02:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010B640417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:01:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.81] (ool-43538a4b.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.138.75]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPA id <0MEX00M5SX9OSLB0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:01:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:00:53 -0500 From: Todd Redmond To: "Barr, Scott" References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <355406436.1406566.1355349409223.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E7FC1D6@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fix it and drive the damn thing! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 5:30 PM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > How did this list get taken over by such soulless, fun-sucking pragmatists??? > ;-) > > My vote - Get it running and drive it for a while before you spend any money > on it. Then fall in love with it and invest thousands of dollars and weekend > hours and either drive it on the street or turn it into a silly, impractical, > expensive race car. Just like the rest of us. > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of fogbro1@comcast.net > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:57 PM > To: Shawn Frank > Cc: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > Give the owner $2000 and walk away from the car. You will save thousands of > dollars and many hundred of hours of your life in the long run. > > > > Ed Woods (with credit to my brother Harvey for figuring this out years ago; > although I have rarely heeded this advice.) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Shawn Frank" > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23:25 AM > Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction > > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! B Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fogbro1@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 16:23:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52E14053F for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:23:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s2.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s2.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B557B40417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:23:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU172-W3 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s2.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:22:46 -0800 From: Rich Rock To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:22:46 -0500 References: FILETIME=[97CE3840:01CDD8BF] Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, I'm Vice-President of the Pennsylvania Hillclimb Association (PHA), a PHA tech inspector, and chairman of the Pagoda Hillclimb and Duryea Hillclimb in Reading, PA, so I should be able to answer any questions about PHA events, but here's some of the basic stuff: Our hillclimbs are sanctioned by the SCCA. In order to compete, a driver must be an SCCA member or hold a competition license from one of the VMC groups or some other road-race sanctioning body. In that case you'll just need to purchase an SCCA weekend membership ($15) at registration. Entry fees range from $145-$160. It's a two-day event, Saturday and Sunday. We run rain or shine. Number of runs you get depends on many things. On the longest hill with a large (100 entries) turnout, you might only get three runs each day. On the shorter hills with not as many entries you could get 6-8 runs each day. Not a lot of seat time compared to road racing, but the intensity is extremely high! Our hillclimbs are held on paved public roads which are in good to excellent condition. Got a really low car? Not a problem. Safety requirements are very similar to road racing. Full nomex, SA 2005 or newer helmet, minimum 5-point harness, fire extinguisher or system, a hillclimb-legal rollbar or cage (depends on the car). If you're an SCCA racer, or a vintage racer, you and your car are most likely equipped with everything you need to pass tech. Autocross cars, maybe, maybe not. The roll bar needs to be above the top of your helmet, so most "street" roll bars are not adequate. Pagoda Hillclimb (1.35 miles long) will be June 22-23 and Duryea 2.2 miles long will be August 17-18. We would love to have several FOT drivers show up! Feel free to get in touch with me any time and I'll be happy to answer any questions. Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 16:39:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA6C40E36 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:39:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s50.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s50.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C2540413 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:39:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT403-EAS435 ([65.55.90.9]) by snt0-omc1-s50.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:38:40 -0800 References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <355406436.1406566.1355349409223.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E7FC1D6@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> From: Vince G Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:38:38 -0500 To: "Barr, Scott" FILETIME=[D0D6D3C0:01CDD8C1] Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net YES Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-12, at 5:30 PM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > How did this list get taken over by such soulless, fun-sucking pragmatists??? > ;-) > > My vote - Get it running and drive it for a while before you spend any money > on it. Then fall in love with it and invest thousands of dollars and weekend > hours and either drive it on the street or turn it into a silly, impractical, > expensive race car. Just like the rest of us. > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of fogbro1@comcast.net > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:57 PM > To: Shawn Frank > Cc: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > Give the owner $2000 and walk away from the car. You will save thousands of > dollars and many hundred of hours of your life in the long run. > > > > Ed Woods (with credit to my brother Harvey for figuring this out years ago; > although I have rarely heeded this advice.) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Shawn Frank" > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23:25 AM > Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction > > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! B Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fogbro1@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 17:21:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7AA40E4D for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:21:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26F940417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:21:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [71.171.28.217]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MEY007HC0YDO953@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:20:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:22:24 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: john hasty References: Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Trans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 12/12/2012 10:58 AM, john hasty wrote: > Advice on Synchro Rings....TR4 close ratio gears, stock case....The last > ones I got from Quantumechanics lasted for almost one race weekend before > the shift into 4th. Started to "grind" Now after the 3rd. Race it's > starting to "grind" into 3rd. As well. What's the best choice and from > where? > Thanks to all..... > John, I bought my last set from BFE. Ken's are almost too good, in that I had to shave 2 just a tad so the gbx would engage. They've held up really well (admittedly they haven't yet been pushed hard). They're a bit spendier than the usual suspects, but considering the time/effort required to pull the gbx, I think they're a good deal. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 17:52:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C3B40E55 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:52:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C0D40417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:51:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.147] by nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 00:51:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.186] by tm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 00:51:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 00:51:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355359865; bh=y+XHEkkz17Ub+gOx+mO99GYthpNnRe49+y+8bUYSNAY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:Cc:To:Mime-Version; b=vuw7KvtWDzClWR/wxNBKNqHJPSVypEAx/7BKhai6253JiD55gJsEBGC8u2HoeHYUKxFxJ5YM8Gv3j1hY9gb5jox9Z94Q5W2SXGgXDuWU20HXq71zTWcEgN+R9FJ/sqOTlCt434kuq7pSIHOmtaReS8YF3kV0dOLsV60mt2yfDWg= YBA0wHUaqW8WVJDGaJNltcQwnmdRS5H9MWPHjwhZ24ssoWaG76rK8aZDEHqn VY4DjdXM52tyzfyhO9gP8x33qFZOdrf9X737uN71Wpq1Jz5ql5DpIfguCaBz nDMuQeNKRYgBGVTBKl9fdEYXuqogIE0rtAV3KXFZUaIx.n8dq8xY8Bh3Wpam r0hHWkCeMtmlzh.HLGgHiq6sROkTyH4RHX_wRt5g._fbEmHfhk.mFSiy3SCE vJYDpfa8YZeKAoF56unJUKpCmD94ldxOmXbl0q.iA_LqfqExQGL1uTN3XKBo GX4R6KZ_m0d2CTsU4ou5GauwQ_OXPkOR_cDqEz8.61p8CUrM7agCDQD04tQZ ut35u95sf8tqITWD.f_uzUrIKPRpY0swPQ2N7XBMrgVr4_x5mawAZYBVZZ2y XvZKZpYZa2igsl2X5u613f1wlSxwgy5NN7gnH Received: from [192.168.1.67] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with xymcookie) by smtp113-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2012 16:51:05 -0800 PST From: Dennis Delap Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:51:14 -0600 To: FOT@autox.team.net Cc: Jack Billimack Subject: [Fot] TR4A Exhaust Manifold Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A M I C I A friend of mine is rebuilding the engine in his very nice street TR4A. He is in need of the stock exhaust manifold - that's four into two. Anyone have one or know of one for sale? Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 18:22:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A1A40E3E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:22:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s37.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s37.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA7E40414 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:20:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W45 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s37.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:19:55 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: fot Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 01:19:55 +0000 References: , FILETIME=[F5B21110:01CDD8CF] Subject: [Fot] FW: East Coast FOTs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I started out with hillclimbs in Colorado in the middle 50's then progressed to road racing. It just a natural progression and I highly recommend that to any that are thinking about racing some time in the future. it still gives me pleasure that when I was running the Competition Department I put the Penn. State Hillclimb Assoc on the list for support and provided them funds during my time there. Good place to start. It takes concentration and the ability to determine your own speed as you do not have anyone close to see if you are fast or slow. GREAT stuff. Never be beaten by equipment > From: rikrock@live.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:22:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] East Coast FOTs... > > Amici, > > > > > > I'm Vice-President of the Pennsylvania Hillclimb Association (PHA), a PHA tech > inspector, and chairman of the Pagoda Hillclimb and Duryea Hillclimb in > Reading, PA, so I should be able to answer any questions about PHA events, but > here's some of the basic stuff: > > Our hillclimbs are sanctioned by the SCCA. In order to compete, a driver must > be an SCCA member or hold a competition license from one of the VMC groups or > some other road-race sanctioning body. In that case you'll just need to > purchase an SCCA weekend membership ($15) at registration. > > Entry fees range from $145-$160. It's a two-day event, Saturday and Sunday. > We run rain or shine. Number of runs you get depends on many things. On the > longest hill with a large (100 entries) turnout, you might only get three runs > each day. On the shorter hills with not as many entries you could get 6-8 > runs each day. Not a lot of seat time compared to road racing, but the > intensity is extremely high! > > Our hillclimbs are held on paved public roads which are in good to excellent > condition. Got a really low car? Not a problem. > > Safety requirements are very similar to road racing. Full nomex, SA 2005 or > newer helmet, minimum 5-point harness, fire extinguisher or system, a > hillclimb-legal rollbar or cage (depends on the car). If you're an SCCA > racer, or a vintage racer, you and your car are most likely equipped with > everything you need to pass tech. Autocross cars, maybe, maybe not. The roll > bar needs to be above the top of your helmet, so most "street" roll bars are > not adequate. > > Pagoda Hillclimb (1.35 miles long) will be June 22-23 and Duryea 2.2 miles > long will be August 17-18. We would love to have several FOT drivers show up! > Feel free to get in touch with me any time and I'll be happy to answer any > questions. > > Rich Rock > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 18:23:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBBF40E51 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:23:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B6340414 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:22:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 01:21:10 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.48] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 01:21:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 01:21:10 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355361670; bh=27MSl5ioSP3x9UjYB8ykMKQtJARComBzpOGKJfy1jfU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=LtKftDJELCJCWcvdpdrK5nDL9cEOapj+II1RkPkSyw9yyxICqBesbwgli2hAJDLhjV41UtYuxz3hIkHIjxqQMGHzXhDsuhFmD9oftwY19EDqsdcKTsGVVbwQqoqHSAwrPIn7cl1IxgoE9MjjZWy6wnRo8O9P7EepTTESPpzK0Fs= NLwzBnTNDMEAeRzNknfAYICG52.yXmGQ1XxBKSFOWFpSupu47XEFAUEDCIH0 y.ksQByHn_GFY2txpFR9U0JXkS4RlBQZkZMovl9k7jI9Leh0Ng49FZvwzyir cmpB4rv0UssEfeiI.OIGIBwj1F7v8c.uI_9Rw1pCJH4Ew6Lz4G7aeE95uvow FRG8RMDOnj165FsoEMKsuupR3.bXLNuj8wqrNHiAiA2RFgNfKeo6c3zv.GeV _VdjnAs9GLd2wIbRN2hhvkNNHk0b4mhvkDO1JAmWOCW.ApSuLr4T8IjOZsh7 MlwgerwstguhknoQQmNF4HIie_.qccPA01gCnT_n0L82yZYkdJjk6O0cOQLS opXtP9BnSOCpNKfCDWxH_vqgFsn0lWgIKL6QVycAbej6WCfM5SSFRF4tjlNt th8oWalizwIGcDolsuCKbP910zj33nloICsbsM0NeplUSo5XShA8Vy7RV3r5 qR8QAEbcnPoMd36V8wTCSzuH6 Received: from EntCentPC (jibjib@71.212.12.109 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2012 17:21:10 -0800 PST From: "Jack Brooks" To: References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:21:16 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3Ya/Iww3oiTuf1S0eXfZOmQVjfdwAY0wGQ Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I own one. Get it running and drive it for a while, then come back and ask us. Remember this started out as a GM engine, so crossover parts are plentyful. Jack -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:23 AM To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? HELP! Shawn Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 18:56:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5567040E52 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:56:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61189403F5 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:56:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3D76B1C00006F; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dnb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.214.13]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E3EC3E000086; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:55:20 -0500 (EST) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:55:20 -0500 (EST) To: jibjib@att.net, FOT@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355363721; bh=VZoHQ5OLC516mDrXctyeeagrimp7lJ0zhZRDwjFxyYk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tnLuZMOsLDyh1G7FEb204SdaVRUV0EwyoD3EdjBbmFEi/1kfxJkMJLp82lwZcLS6W koLLm+3QpJvBIrMIKdwiqgRJHeyrdeF4KlBQFpZcjI6D/NOdrj5vr9g4TyyHfonJUy QjTE8FR2CTLZoqbeulPdENayWtV5TOBSmv93zZsQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c750c935884807 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Myself, I'd really like to have a TR8 so if the decisions get too difficult give me a shout;-)) In a message dated 12/12/2012 5:22:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jibjib@att.net writes: I own one. Get it running and drive it for a while, then come back and ask us. Remember this started out as a GM engine, so crossover parts are plentyful. Jack -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:23 AM To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? HELP! Shawn Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 19:21:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19DE40429 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:21:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB7340429 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:21:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 02:20:29 -0000 Received: from [98.139.172.97] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 02:20:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 02:20:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355365229; bh=yTAuTiDQkcda89f3+pJFSpO1zJR2ZHJGuB2s6r48Ms0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=VDEX4+zFjD6LDGVH9fVneY/k2W9KmiBerA3qewmEl6miV8jswIrg5DOeAC94ycwq/50CDX3ERlc/Byfyl0m4CV39LqZaeG7MuZo7lDXfK2G7wxDgeFhcfPGLNXc3w1d/pQszh8rMHim2mUKGvkQWK9nCE90PSU1iu/xtJIL2TxI= xSwUnxfT_iXSmXDJaeAZsQMd8lzjP.iH3abfKIj6p1pj8voSodtAjSYm3xCI 97zOGBXmUyMtiKqxfQ.hWNlgONXKlSfG6mW6x07d9M33Gi2WlicP0jooTErZ kcCAa26slJJvwq9xaWzTdVc0ShSY4r7pIiAxRIG4dHVvC7UPbTwjzkV7A6h0 FosCoVRgBz3jjn.rWbbs7vqP2P2rjmH4PbFvi3f2PKU0_c4Noyu74dGnCYXc f8MKb3eRM42saJJczLIwJnc42ycanuhEx8NdB9sH4uKRHpBNotGT_apRhTwj IhryVc0ZuzI0IX_nqfgNwnUreWsnJpk6MvUg6dNpae0bWO8C1sqfNuXW6Ifa RhpkR2E6_UyYjaO8MAsYx9zSlvDX7j4CzRwbn0.mLjOkqnAzxhcGwLET7zdq nCNOJDxVfCWQS076sG3Uta1Jj9ss8M.WlxE8ryJ64G2c6XsRFVxE9Cr3Qstm _msAt92k1d20FATGe.XYmMSim Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp120-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2012 18:20:28 -0800 PST References: <10f7a.6eb81ef8.3dfa8f88@aol.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:20:28 -0700 To: "Gt6steve@aol.com" Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to have one of every Triumph made, but my garage is only so big, and I am married. Ty Tyler Thompson l National Account Executive - Public Safety Sector esri | One International Court | Broomfield, CO 80021 Phone: 303.449-7779 ext. 8260, cell: 719.510-1649 | E-mail: tyler_thompson@esri.com Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Dec 12, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Gt6steve@aol.com wrote: > Myself, I'd really like to have a TR8 so if the decisions get too difficult > give me a shout;-)) > > > In a message dated 12/12/2012 5:22:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jibjib@att.net writes: > > I own one. Get it running and drive it for a while, then come back and > ask > us. Remember this started out as a GM engine, so crossover parts are > plentyful. > > Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Shawn Frank > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:23 AM > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction > > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't > start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 19:40:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D3C42260 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:40:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F07740429 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:39:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 02:39:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.239] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 02:39:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 02:39:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 27657 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2012 02:39:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355366341; bh=uNmHW0+Z6lE2XP7DNXztwincK0QTjxMWxBZS+qmKTeE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cRydYI0a2VTv1Fl0w7qgUUTVJACOwBf5d3orf76tvyE9jLhZJSsHvB/aoEiiNgiBj953brjWztRUoTLEmcZRV6NcbzpNtZUU3KfVIV8eC1zGhKsi5/bE0NpyZ7PNlQjdmljFifym/kQ/zfE1c8eeP3P76LlMDxjYHnY0sEoYEBQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zY+kyrq4XqmcrJ8ios4VSLBTWIFaILEq//0TBrspEGILq9HVgsTi4q8/JA2Z1SWg+PR18WBmwFHbenk0/eKJmMT2yK9+1ydH8218VWCptzGO9Qte7AJE1GKAVut70t/Ct19SXGSvBCN1NaXzQGajKvRN+fyZOekXpxuUYDsHIe8=; 2vr.p62vlYkMI8fbSMHHtfBwMuujqKfe9j_q_iKppYFPuNojc36A7arEMHaL buCJGAAS9R84HqL0Y89N5UF09l36.2uIgj94NgLRtpgExVuWmb3zaGTQKXfZ yud3S8Wec6D6N6._CuCyrh113DTZWEYIqAHL7xLzsH6AEQ8xrf_2OFnEs.m6 JEGCIJwQlP85pZwXkzYmbfIpH13a0WDLqjCLfxkgeVaBERLVxC1AFmMPLvSV fMKJyjwD3qn6HbkknWRQZx1335FjDQNO3uhvnDl5in1tnNa1Cy8tFlyH3irF Wrfr0FKJ_HafBNc22W3ULJqyNMnhkQqX7SlrKfVvl9EM.RVT0Ato.6.qk42N 2QjrbBRiiY47k2N67us63z2YsnP5XCVYwE9kMPWhH6SOgWbP0LavLe.YDnPH 7z51WKAOwevwL7uWcH7ag6VlP0UyDJD27_GTqySUNdZ30E30cy0Uepntd1Kc AmqCQAgN4UAhE13ZApONcItMxO6jAVXXO2DDZTffb3DYquKFowxrnUlQwOuC Els6qoryyLp1HLP0ZzCI33He5LiE- Received: from [192.43.65.245] by web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:39:00 PST VHksCsKgCkJveSwgZG8gSSBmZWVsIGx1Y2t5IChibGVzc2VkKSByaWdodCBub3cuwqAgQmV0d2VlbiBteXNlbGYgYW5kIG15IHdpZmUsIHdlIG93biA4IDEvNiAoMS82IGludGVyZXN0IGluIGEgVFI2IHJhY2VjYXIpIFRyaXVtcGhzIGFuZCBhbm90aGVyIEJyaXRpc2ggY2FyLCBpbiBhZGRpdGlvbiB0byB0aGUgNCBvciBzbyAicmVndWxhciIgdmVoaWNsZXMuwqAgQW5kIEkgc3RpbGwgaGF2ZSB0byBzdG9wIGhlciBldmVyeSB0aW1lIHNoZSBzZWVzIGEgVmlwZXIuLi4KwqAKU2hlIGp1c3QgcmVhZCB0aGlzIG8BMAEBAQE- References: <10f7a.6eb81ef8.3dfa8f88@aol.com> <2E4B6EFC-95B2-415E-A073-4E50ACF5EBD5@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:39:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jamie Palmer To: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ty, Boy, do I feel lucky (blessed) right now. Between myself and my wife, we own 8 1/6 (1/6 interest in a TR6 racecar) Triumphs and another British car, in addition to the 4 or so "regular" vehicles. And I still have to stop her every time she sees a Viper... She just read this over my shoulder and reminded me I "owe" her another car. No, she doesn't have a sister. Two brothers only. Smiling, Jamie P.S. We too have limited garage space...so she wants to sell the house and move into something with (her words) "a 12-car garage with living space attached." I came home today to find she had finished painting the bathroom and started on the kitchen, so she's really serious about selling this house. I am a lucky man! >________________________________ >From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" >To: "Gt6steve@aol.com" >Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" >Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:20 PM >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > >I would like to have one of every Triumph made, but my garage is only so big, >and I am married. > >Ty > >Tyler Thompson l National Account Executive - Public Safety Sector >esri | One International Court | Broomfield, CO 80021 >Phone: 303.449-7779 ext. 8260, cell: 719.510-1649 | >E-mail: tyler_thompson@esri.com > > >Sent from my iPad >(Please excuse any errors or typos) > >On Dec 12, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Gt6steve@aol.com wrote: > >> Myself, I'd really like to have a TR8 so if the decisions get too difficult >> give me a shout;-)) >> >> >> In a message dated 12/12/2012 5:22:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> jibjib@att.net writes: >> >> I own one. Get it running and drive it for a while, then come back and >> ask >> us. Remember this started out as a GM engine, so crossover parts are >> plentyful. >> >> Jack >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of Shawn Frank >> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:23 AM >> To: FOT@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction >> >> We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do >> with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't >> start >> and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? >> HELP! Shawn >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com/ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 19:44:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179F240E63 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:44:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CEE4053F for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:44:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 02:43:16 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.240] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 02:43:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 02:43:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355366595; bh=3gnyjQUJojnJc+zyrULkCpLLuWzniH9JW1YjdCzvZ0k=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=iAid8Jfmk/S6zBLERht2xeMiBnBegnNpQtKLUIefCv7p/cunCiTDEgDOX5NqK2Qa/pNAD83KXh/aAgYxjJ2sSyV8pVsi4Nl9p9DMF2M+zgD70IPiIzU46QWQ4lCRQHJDKHxWnETKPnNAoouV2JFFP3YRfCvQLL0vQIjErTmzhJk= EJ6hLajtlyqEb5TaG8uhZE0wFGbF0OipfUSINAY7vEmP0rNnHra6HQec0dX0 HjgTueK7Y3f8zdAl8ayx8gv_sMXAaDQXtTbw1PHGgodW_4WsyWKPWdbDDAre .LX8tURYv6SSng2HDNcprC1YAoWllzSjp8TK4ItVVUcTfCAlt1vCYRKm86kt Es_SqTl8pr23Qe742IBektVf.acMzeGTPd95ThGImLykclpLOzrMg9eQKn9C G_eFaGngtEBiJ._xVtjMHMF1VJfQhsnrBNACy5ubBbovD6SVFQa_6..UXzNI u1pJwIarB_qe8GoHSCeSxZ2C7kPo_aTOphWoMqZRpExegTih6jbV5QHvi7Tk k0xYFGGrZYWCab7mFpw1f.RZlpv_0DSlXtyA2M4i5vYBPmeRu8Dv1efyLGdB vdVXIfEc9lQl_CRH1omp.l3A2.sbg2vEbPPsLgdEwNjnrk.Hc7H74P3QGEoz MS4_xesW2p2Hy2Bixb31ChQzB Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp103-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2012 18:43:15 -0800 PST References: <10f7a.6eb81ef8.3dfa8f88@aol.com> <2E4B6EFC-95B2-415E-A073-4E50ACF5EBD5@yahoo.com> <1355366340.27538.YahooMailNeo@web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:43:15 -0700 To: Jamie Palmer Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net LMFAO Clone her and you will be a millionaire! BTW, my wife had to have the "Hemi" in her Jeep, so she has similar race loving qualities... Ty Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Jamie Palmer wrote: > Ty, > > Boy, do I feel lucky (blessed) right now. Between myself and my wife, we own 8 1/6 (1/6 interest in a TR6 racecar) Triumphs and another British car, in addition to the 4 or so "regular" vehicles. And I still have to stop her every time she sees a Viper... > > She just read this over my shoulder and reminded me I "owe" her another car. > > No, she doesn't have a sister. Two brothers only. > > Smiling, > > Jamie > > P.S. We too have limited garage space...so she wants to sell the house and move into something with (her words) "a 12-car garage with living space attached." I came home today to find she had finished painting the bathroom and started on the kitchen, so she's really serious about selling this house. I am a lucky man! > > From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" > To: "Gt6steve@aol.com" > Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > I would like to have one of every Triumph made, but my garage is only so big, > and I am married. > > Ty > > Tyler Thompson l National Account Executive - Public Safety Sector > esri | One International Court | Broomfield, CO 80021 > Phone: 303.449-7779 ext. 8260, cell: 719.510-1649 | > E-mail: tyler_thompson@esri.com > > > Sent from my iPad > (Please excuse any errors or typos) > > On Dec 12, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Gt6steve@aol.com wrote: > > > Myself, I'd really like to have a TR8 so if the decisions get too difficult > > give me a shout;-)) > > > > > > In a message dated 12/12/2012 5:22:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > jibjib@att.net writes: > > > > I own one. Get it running and drive it for a while, then come back and > > ask > > us. Remember this started out as a GM engine, so crossover parts are > > plentyful. > > > > Jack > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > > Behalf Of Shawn Frank > > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:23 AM > > To: FOT@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction > > > > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't > > start > > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > > HELP! Shawn > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 06:14:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C3240FDC for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 06:14:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2124A40408 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 06:13:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FFBA4C091 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id clF1OkunkJAl for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1473DA4C084 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:13:04 -0500 (EST) From: To: References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8B76EDC8-E315-4B66-8CE5-13CD3B50CF4B@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:13:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We are a group of Triumph racers, we talk about race cars here. You opened the door, now you have to race it. :-) That being said... I have TR8 street car with all the right stuff done to it and holy crap... All that power on an 88 inch wheelbase with street tires will keep your attention. So, yeah, it's a real hoot. But unlocking the potential of a stock TR8 is real money and time... If you are starting with a stock example, take a long look at the specs from the factory. Then think of what it will cost to make it what you really want. ----- Original Message ----- > On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Shawn Frank wrote: > >> We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should >> do >> with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't > start >> and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? >> HELP! Shawn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 06:55:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36F940EA4 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 06:55:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from rhombus.bright.net (rhombus.bright.net [209.143.0.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45D740417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 06:55:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from spamtest4.bright.net (spamtest4.bright.net [209.143.0.182]) by rhombus.bright.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBDDqijE010084 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:52:44 -0500 Received: from rg6.cniteam.com (rg6.cniteam.com [209.143.0.246]) by spamtest4.bright.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBDDsagO001200 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:54:37 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg6.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id EMW64800 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:54:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:54:50 -0500 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <50C91FC0.9060703@blacksburg.net> refid=str=0001.0A020209.50C9DE1C.012F,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine Subject: Re: [Fot] Trans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The quality of the synchro rings has not improved withthe current crop. For years the best solution was to take good OE used synchro rings and machine .010" off the face. this buries the ring further onto the "cone". The syhchro operates by the machined "ridges" gripping the cone and slowing down the gear. Machining the face gets you past the worn "ridges and offers a grip as is new. Ted On 12/12/2012 7:22 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > On 12/12/2012 10:58 AM, john hasty wrote: >> Advice on Synchro Rings....TR4 close ratio gears, stock case....The last >> ones I got from Quantumechanics lasted for almost one race weekend >> before >> the shift into 4th. Started to "grind" Now after the 3rd. Race it's >> starting to "grind" into 3rd. As well. What's the best choice and from >> where? >> Thanks to all..... > John, I bought my last set from BFE. Ken's are almost too good, in > that I had to shave 2 just a tad so the gbx would engage. They've held > up really well (admittedly they haven't yet been pushed hard). > They're a bit spendier than the usual suspects, but considering the > time/effort required to pull the gbx, I think they're a good deal. > > jim > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 07:29:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A8740EAA for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:29:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A7940551 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:28:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBDES4Il000567; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:28:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:28:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Shawn Frank References: <1355323775.66227.androidMobile@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, There's a "wedge" mail list that might be a place to fish for advice on TR8's... you might want to sign up for that. My vote: race car. The sale price of TR8's is hovering at close to zero, so if you buy one and toss bags -o -money at it, you'll still have a TR8 worth close to zero. Sad, ut true. That said, there's a bunch of folks on the wedge list that cater to TR8 and performance, so it's a pretty good place to start. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 10:18:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B8142267 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:18:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBE840414 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:18:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b3rV1k0060QkzPwAD5HD6C; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:17:13 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b5HC1k00G2yr1eL8N5HCCB; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:17:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:17:07 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: "Robert M. Lang" s=q20121106; t=1355419033; bh=uNWahlO8STVYYMl9hmxFIYKdilYIYUls+4lWtu36wG0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=gZEUY/zIMpvgbsB3iyvAAo+loHDV3LOZQtROjIFwa7UK9tMiL/TrAid+1f9ALpos0 Pd0bPS8I07zgeH/Z+RuhRKi9IS6b4KL1f4k6x3l4MfkHhQnXj+Vsenw0Eni/CPZv0k MZgrA99e84dWue6GTrld+/ivHYPqYmVHqoSWe8XlcCURA9l6wJlRZpW8+8wgvC5wgP coedgZqPTnV27TyftyHznHQMr6m4Vo9e4V/+97OHRrCMDSFeZPimhPqx53e/BWWdhN /tcp7PcP8M2zFQg4bDw+XA0FWNelti/e6pilrWCeDi7iUKfAYJ5SonqVR6dg+/j3IO 6hpotkF617hgQ== Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I for one don't give a hoot about re-sale price. I have bags of money and time in my TR4 and wouldn't recover but a fraction of it if I ever chose to sell it. I do it becau se I love the sport and I love the car and I love the continued developement. The rewards ( for me ) cannot be measured in dollars .B We are all on budgets otherwise this would be Friends of Ferrari or Friends of Aston Martin or some such thing. If you love the car and have a vision for it's future just go for it and don't listen to people that try to put a value on your car. just my .02. Jim G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: "Shawn Frank" Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:28:04 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Hi, There's a "wedge" mail list that might be a place to fish for advice on TR8's... you might want to sign up for that. My vote: race car. The sale price of TR8's is hovering at close to zero, so if you buy one and toss bags -o -money at it, you'll still have a TR8 worth close to zero. Sad, ut true. That said, there's a bunch of folks on the wedge list that cater to TR8 and B performance, so it's a pretty good place to start. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang B B B B B B B Triumph TR6!! B B B B B B | B This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair B B B B B B B B B B B B B | Voice:617-253-7438 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B | B Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 10:30:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF4340E51 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:30:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF0D4040A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:30:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.62] by nm21.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 17:29:22 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.242] by tm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 17:29:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1050.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 17:29:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 50512 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2012 17:29:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355419762; bh=c0dqhqmNF5sXFkM1HtVgpK0X5D42KqkCUHb6DYt4I5Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DK5uVJOGVIVCjV/+Y3ZT9Akoog+nscTlTAl5raSPJfqLQsL7nzeGtm7a7u/LtbaskFKheTzXpYodUj5Xt3fpaWF5FOPJrp1okGqHGDUGHUwdrBpsQ43vb5DkpMstKv1NQ5pgPwwic1PbUmJErNv23hlURYroFegw7FBDq6s6IAs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OMO4z/X+dwzF2Wh/Z+7/76pqLb+NvEkrvsKOJAWK85c2OlBwfEVsxYJdJEgvTmGxDdrCSrMdJ0BB7iYsbyzeXKmGvIpuHVIijdyRYGNKuMnkb96K6lu5IVVtxlnwY34Co3+7h2H9USPdz48ABYEVZ09XZBL4MNvB3YBbg19bnJo=; tZTcbLrU28yQrxgCpCaKDDBrf73alT80Fd8nYrsCmTHl5SwUNxJUSRlqYBnp C2mWGqy53NuNjCOM7ib_mSI56L8dX3c1qf5D_0xsKTrhlbnfayenWktN86bZ SWvWkBS6VHDb9X10VPuh8SaYU.sW3oxKmeNAmd4p4Kn2HN6SjeTHUWyFcaES 5buejRrsavLcr9JP1r_1oOJYWc6aCMiuKaVeqmpyka2ebVrMM5ig7dwmqSo5 Q3mt_y_SMdIuL4bPgk3XGD28MrG8xMpbt5cVjp8lMRGyWFrOLjmgbfzY4kgu 5nUOeT52JwUIJyKZoCG0eu0YtWteQRSt7ZEnw2L0ERfkkXEMq9t505Mfinhs cQRS6lYNPok7tzNS5T9O7Tt5H_8X0o2VsI489cKR.wCRVKydN5pP3.66mfEc aBe1stQ8AwWS_l4jbO_kJUKkiwX8HexPn6lY- Received: from [63.153.246.109] by web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:29:22 PST RXhjdXNlIG15IGlnbm9yYW5jZSwgYnV0IGhvdyBkbyBJIGdldCB0byB0aGUgZm9ydW1zIHN1Y2ggYXMgdGhlIFRSOCBmb3J1bSBvbiBGcmllbmRzIG9mIFRyaXVtcGg_IEkgY2FuJ3Qgc2VlbSB0byBmaW5kIGl0IG9uIHRoZSB3ZWJzaXRlLiBJcyB0aGVyZSBhIGxpbmsgSSBjYW4gZm9sbG93IHRvIGV4cGxvcmUgdGhlIGRpZmZlcmVudCBlbWFpbCBsaXN0cyBvciBmb3J1bXM_IFRoYW5rIHlvdSBpbiBhZHZhbmNlLCBhbmQgc29ycnkgdGhpcyBpcyBub3QgY29tcGV0aXRpb24gcmVsYXRlZC4gVGhpcyBpcyB0aGUBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:29:22 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Forums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Excuse my ignorance, but how do I get to the forums such as the TR8 forum on Friends of Triumph? I can't seem to find it on the website. Is there a link I can follow to explore the different email lists or forums? Thank you in advance, and sorry this is not competition related. This is the only forum I can find right now..Shawn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 10:48:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C0140551 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:48:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8F940409 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:48:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 22C8C1C0001E3; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7DEE0E00008A; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:47:07 -0500 (EST) From: N197TR4@cs.com Full-name: N197TR4 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:47:07 -0500 (EST) To: my71spit13@yahoo.com, FOT@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355420828; bh=A4evomDI6UA8kNwy+nSbPL+cpn0jWwkXA6EEjoLkmgg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YTVzcedV+E/aHA1jtHY5ly2vPX7TVFG5U0ME6psWDzdKeozjstyk2j8Knb3IrBqTe j1Zdll0RgVD/4EPfAuwbe4Oe44mi90ugI4vr1qxqshyqtZPb3XOiKgZcnmDGmm8GNn PNpyP4X5i8eGzhxdMd6MaObdpywmS+ZMGdyobTs4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d50ca149b5627 Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark Bradakis, I tried to direct Shawn to Scions of Lucas site, but didnt do a good job of it. Can you help him find the list to subscribe to these other lists? Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our future in vintage racing...time marches on. > Excuse my ignorance, but how do I get to the forums such as the TR8 forum > on Friends of Triumph? I can't seem to find it on the website. Is there a > link I can follow to explore the different email lists or forums? Thank you > in advance, and sorry this is not competition related. This is the only > forum I can find right now..Shawn > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 11:08:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C51242263 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:08:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f169.google.com (mail-ea0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170CD40413 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:07:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f169.google.com with SMTP id a12so910986eaa.14 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:07:01 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OyAwEiN0N/WfWdj/XubHnAR8ZQnUKiEcUsXtqn6BhiQ=; b=rwQnluRPH1UOpgTVN/CutbWzK7eAtqHSi1/t4u87+ELeTgtn7tRYgeqEuLhjuzja5k p63ERwl+NDI8eOHXbT6rZOf2kK/OMHyCGuV+5lcJ+P3ror4ScpCqtSEywtIcp1R2pdMb 9zkxARfZLUg69h/X3pEz6zKgqTu7o6yN1aPbW350Iecj4uQaokRFd3zcsyvLBfNNWEEx oPNRFNbNIdl6v3h8JxKrby6joMsEbe/pwtOAPrLBjtGYFEiQyg/9DrPvyg9yJqLl5FbK uo7/yBME8OJ0rLjkVDk7plfHZcvkZP5ho/vzh7pzu91IusCFJvqFoA1apFX8jlicB8l+ egcw== Received: by 10.14.176.66 with SMTP id a42mr7263220eem.34.1355422021523; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.198 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:07:01 -0800 (PST) References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:07:01 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will agree to that..a TR-4 can be just as exspensive...all in what you want. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, wrote: > I for one don't give a hoot about re-sale price. I have bags of money and > time > in my TR4 > > and wouldn't recover but a fraction of it if I ever chose to sell it. I do > it > becau se I love the > > sport and I love the car and I love the continued developement. > > The rewards ( for me ) cannot be measured in dollars .B We are all on > budgets > otherwise this > > would be Friends of Ferrari or Friends of Aston Martin or some such thing. > > If you love the car and have a vision for it's future just go for it and > don't > listen to people that > > try to put a value on your car. > > just my .02. > > Jim G. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robert M. Lang" > To: "Shawn Frank" > Cc: FOT@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:28:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > Hi, > > There's a "wedge" mail list that might be a place to fish for advice on > TR8's... you might want to sign up for that. > > My vote: race car. > > The sale price of TR8's is hovering at close to zero, so if you buy one > and toss bags -o -money at it, you'll still have a TR8 worth close to > zero. Sad, ut true. > > That said, there's a bunch of folks on the wedge list that cater to TR8 > and B performance, so it's a pretty good place to start. > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang B B B B B B B Triumph TR6!! B B B B B B | B This space > for > rent > Former NER Solo Chair B B B B B B B B B B B B B | > Voice:617-253-7438 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B | B Cell: > 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 11:16:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C5840E9E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:16:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f169.google.com (mail-ea0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3271540413 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:16:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f169.google.com with SMTP id a12so914897eaa.14 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:15:06 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mCeoRxz61tjKwptlV4R2wlGyGFJF4sCybSFgxv9EryE=; b=0ePwNxvieDF51Ld48YAKzsUwg3yDTQU7B3cvmSXu7pXiSgkRp9MTrtgjySsf11pCMr DIegZ6v8Jjy+6iUUqXuHNPTIFcKYkbQGb7dXjdp4GONnGNG6UK0kmoxyEBJ8rqSZFD7t pwtpmreiaqyAXtBYw+J2XgO2+8gFAybc7A+55Rsv4CHjneAkvDGzhbBbUY+WnXfQxvry RaS9p1UTzsGuTRVnBX94/qLH2rKp2ciC7E7B0+5k+6tF5tCF0mSKFoTVG7meKA4iPY8h 9FpuGEizbhkNDfXeHgXdM+mFObXEbDnXSiGxguNV/eUToi0kJQrNm9DKeTrD41GU7MfG Z8Ng== Received: by 10.14.204.198 with SMTP id h46mr7605788eeo.1.1355422506772; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.198 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:15:06 -0800 (PST) References: <1355419762.48346.YahooMailNeo@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:15:06 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: Shawn Frank Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Forums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Try the Triumph Wedge Association forum for TR-7/8 may have some info for you On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: > Excuse my ignorance, but how do I get to the forums such as the TR8 forum > on Friends of Triumph? I can't seem to find it on the website. Is there a > link I can follow to explore the different email lists or forums? Thank you > in advance, and sorry this is not competition related. This is the only > forum I can find right now..Shawn > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 11:40:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42B340651 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:40:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA6840417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:40:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04085A136B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:40:47 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:40:47 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 CC: "FOT@autox.team.net" References: <1355419762.48346.YahooMailNeo@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Forums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Shawn Frank wrote: > Excuse my ignorance, but how do I get to the forums such as the TR8 forum on Friends of Triumph? I can't seem to find it on the website. Is there a link I can follow to explore the different email lists or forums? The Team.Net email lists are listed at http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo The Team.Net forums are currently broken. I really need to get those working again! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 16:17:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EC1422E5 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:17:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm36-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE5F40446 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:17:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 23:16:38 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.193] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 23:16:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2012 23:16:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 1405 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2012 23:16:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355440597; bh=4MR0Zk487Wv200sXQtay42B6GgECdscaWlVA07Wxgv8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r9CUuxbPvRVzErGRMve29MW/bRphEF9tgUNb/d6XmRWaU+S8tsu4xmShbS9p91rXxMDK32UlXiyZ1obQ3o0SLewGzK8F48dYgTU9VBQhjcxENdt1Tl6VwgIKl9v7Z0BH64+3AV+Tqoc2Y6IQfztw1QIP7ZdTmm5K/GmQiE7cUbU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1Oudf17tXJ5EH9Si4qxibCEGenO92GxrzGC5eAMiF4SJ9baPt8BUz+QZdRt0aMQeIURUFTBegBVhbURHuOZNADOJArGFt8BD4gOBuAemizKj0UnpWBihnEqKTDo7gbR2fwvoYVhHffLuAcb++ReCCNtHqej27es1N3GzhbVCtQU=; A4X_8eg9w25jrDNod6CrfUYA8v6r6rvvBl7wv9uIwpTcc0GQf3LFQ2M3Pf_X ijgtSqKONhFP0l.a7GAN.hXmJYbwH92DFJVb60mk3qHL4koGGuKn9eUinOVY 8F.EH92ICVZ92RerjKLUBofIAKO3Zf8au58GIgVH6R64cDZGcxr3AwaFeC5G QF1Fzj0PBH7G9aRIqurfyz_DylEuWPZbvpQjJHlrjC7KLbwkfTYws8CzyiNr pX0nmfbu_Q1bLFwH3jt8PJTqboiBVVTf_vVhKnsdc55NQj1rpzBTgMM282qD pFqfMJjq9r2JfFGRcpNP8ARKhT17TyB2iR3PzN4wepzxOiFVB.kKUVqth8r. 6Fk53c1jfHP4DMWjp9GcVBg47.TTjauMe7WrdO8ZpZR9Ej.85RyPlS1a40Dg 8rGUA0qLOcuRRBOMv_YegFmRNwUe2UZd1QLb04gTjt4EzrUOK3LRvFT4QsuQ SUhLPENw53Lgk250ESYJq2WM6Oek8lec7oFReB0_1WF6WzwhFspxLmnpWxvO HJA-- Received: from [64.132.65.78] by web140602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:16:37 PST SSBkb24ndCB0aGluayBNYXJrIGhhcyB0aGUgV2VkZ2UgbGlzdC4KCkdvZ2dsZSBUcml1bXBoIFdlZGdlIE93bmVycyBBc3NvY2lhdGlvbjsgeW91IHNob3VsZCBmaW5kIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIG9uIHRoZSBXZWRnZSBtYWlsIGxpc3QuCgoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IFNoYXduIEZyYW5rIDxteTcxc3BpdDEzQHlhaG9vLmNvbT4KVG86ICJGT1RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQiIDxGT1RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBUaHVyc2RheSwgRGVjZW1iZXIgMTMsIDIBMAEBAQE- References: <1355419762.48346.YahooMailNeo@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:16:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ernest Husmann To: Shawn Frank , "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Forums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't think Mark has the Wedge list. Goggle Triumph Wedge Owners Association; you should find information on the Wedge mail list. ________________________________ From: Shawn Frank To: "FOT@autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:29 AM Subject: [Fot] Forums Excuse my ignorance, but how do I get to the forums such as the TR8 forum on Friends of Triumph? I can't seem to find it on the website. Is there a link I can follow to explore the different email lists or forums? Thank you in advance, and sorry this is not competition related. This is the only forum I can find right now..Shawn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 17:59:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CB4422E4 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:59:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E1E40418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:59:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 00:58:45 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.67] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 00:58:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 00:58:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355446724; bh=oBLuqZCL5UDKi5ubkmiTUEnyTAGgmJt6Djrw6YJjl3g=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=dvgR18Z1Qq89zyKRAtv+7NQU/MRa/0j15upiyLxbhNcvTq1MsB3XHqLzTyOEmbXOGxvco43hvhIAYZQ6fooJGe6QIpfuZAwq08ll8SNF8NVv4iL26WjFqDHlQkw+xcqDgAPsD4soIkjY95dR2lEeTN1PSZTLxxF1qjr/+xPVbC4= em5O4bDyRcq6Q7VL7tZTXNys.itjRnB8dkpqU47ee85GjmqLv7LxsuL8mHVN eocBB52E6PV3t6p5UnppsCWVtcc7fRjHxsac7Cdfr8EwCJzD2BEhgkP_0oIm ZUro9hJprNY8Mr_pKbfJJkfPm1aKty5fWp3j3Xu90FFOkzFKRcfjZAEBXKqz F9xgmsXUkv_rItiXSzG9m2QwaC7pK60tDmggMS3XlzXE.tvVzOi2BGuX72zR ae0FeIWSCY2NNTzT5yGJjjrHaAxl_A0RGW9LOQf5Gp5Vf365FcuvXvXZNt7B qjG4w3_z_W7qutnPMuF6ZVoZmMfpo06LaaRAuj6r8lGqGAwl7hj05c3rtDNB 28ub3x8tbbhyZvCeemNbUX0rheb.72uEY1KuUuLE6onEYHTA.j897_tCjEE. bPeBmEVLDaCHKAp4rGK7jQqUsiw.2XxV1IPUMVRfgQrbQZo5J.Vpg0vg6Gdu GdOqImGPHfj.2.XI6mH2Y03gFlmffQf962g-- Received: from PaulPC (macdonaldp@173.33.61.212 with login) by smtp104.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2012 16:58:44 -0800 PST From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "'Ernest Husmann'" , "'Shawn Frank'" , References: <1355419762.48346.YahooMailNeo@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1355440597.1346.YahooMailNeo@web140602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:58:54 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHjCY1bqG7JITmPXZk3Q1pwdEenbAMLdntOl9S9Q/A= Content-Language: en-ca Subject: Re: [Fot] Forums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.team.net/TR7/Mailing-List.html It is one of Mark's And very active...thanks Mark -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ernest Husmann Sent: December 13, 2012 6:17 PM To: Shawn Frank; FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Forums I don't think Mark has the Wedge list. Goggle Triumph Wedge Owners Association; you should find information on the Wedge mail list. ________________________________ From: Shawn Frank To: "FOT@autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:29 AM Subject: [Fot] Forums Excuse my ignorance, but how do I get to the forums such as the TR8 forum on Friends of Triumph? I can't seem to find it on the website. Is there a link I can follow to explore the different email lists or forums? Thank you in advance, and sorry this is not competition related. This is the only forum I can find right now..Shawn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 18:31:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AD7422E4 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:31:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D66A4043B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:31:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A540B1C0000B7 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7D217E000086 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:30:29 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com (64.12.140.161) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:30:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:30:29 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355448629; bh=DoypV0Dxt2saKBBKMfNcI3WQOnCzMJeeyHb9F4Ntbfg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t2l7OiGBXvw9y/wZA9m/nwQBAs5kcYbT966sRvZg3YyEOVoGoXUlhqFNoWO5q7q6p EBp4ZTsd5p0TM4KEoRW5qQYzAzARWXaUgmprsB8nyqAoF6VaV5WIgeqO6fMVSbsr6y +tXaVRqney+Q0sviYv6TTDqzNevQTJh2N0kWhPCY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e50ca81352cc0 Subject: [Fot] RON SHARP SCCA OFFICIAL TO University of Iowa Hospitals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you had any kind of long term relationship with SCCA you may know Ron Sharp as a long time racer and SCCA Official. He is leaving Florida for treatment of cancer in Iowa. I have emails with more detail, if you wish to know more. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 22:29:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84698422E1 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:29:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64B24043D for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:29:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 05:28:47 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 05:27:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 05:27:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 62457 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2012 05:27:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355462866; bh=qKngqWQyNfmzEfAyxFfEwJFjyZ0h2SI6Es/RO87kFSo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pRt2L37WinGeBeTpl6IwURFLt/FGIRVmJIEvWdl4F2mzC7jZFLxWd4SJGd0AqIqg1nlXRAFKWc2VmZS2Ktj5Lhm8CGZu9xtGa+20Qa4Y7ZZDT/qWanwhV53LQx1tNiBw35q6EBhan3wvt73WlD2vfktAr/CmU5iyUQa0PCEGOj4= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QEWPJdhVM8fXzUGKnKdiv4I8HE17FitVe6uVeIROjpGbvXnOREm86pV9ywLdUHtjEU71hN5eF3IWF25n/jIFB6R/dDhVhQYDz7avdiD3qd/DKuAyEM5GiyOr6/oCuFyi+TToHIMIhcRYwmWKqMwYcBKxVadjDId/VcrIk0B2y44=; 4W3YYo5Y2EYiesXwKA7EFeHQj6nepKlqJ.6Jdt1YvQ0pGi24NLjQ5VhgMRHK mm6MwI2ilURW4Ni.4YVoe1AIGJOtkZyD9nwrlX0bHSCkDN3joe4OVwo24TUx RrwAlS16yjD_muIux.oXKS68ShQXqx2j8vKk5YxOvAE3n1Iw7QCOzTspG1S9 T.T8WDbdBkll6b0aaRE3akpPEi37kepHHGqcQlHj.Srnc78N9nDMS3glyYaG jrnL1hCmFL5m7fdyTMFKihK60lOexzBanQw1weIHe5_ppOx9Fwj564576_tb Xu.i4Q9CrC7GmIIT_rNnZgd48AS4GE0HWe6MxOf30.aJ4rU.9O0z8TQMM6nW pgpHPgv_fX.BtBjtjsMqGf1DyrNgB2VbJgH8HGDDZOIgwKgP1uTWtU4XuqQA aGrkyDrilKsKyrZte.GIWgjLXkR9jPQVV6GJrGQtIZEqAhyD6fn8MKswWnJF 9tSJOOTU- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:27:46 PST SSdtIHdpdGggSmltLi4uIG15IGxhdGUgZmF0aGVyIHVzZWQgdG8gc2F5ICJuZXZlciBsZXQgZW1vdGlvbiBnZXQgaW52b2x2ZWQgaW4gYSAKYnVzaW5lc3MgZGVjaXNpb24iIC4uLiBoZWNrLCB0aGUgYW1vdW50IG9mIG1vbmV5IG1vc3Qgb2YgdXMgc3BlbmQgdG8gdHJ5IHRvIG1ha2UgCnRoZXNlIGNhcnMgZG8gc29tZXRoaW5nIHRoZXkgd2VyZSBuZXZlciBpbnRlbmRlZCB0byBkbyBpcyBub3QgZmluYW5jaWFsbHkgCnJlc3BvbnNpYmxlLi4uIHdlIGRvIGl0IGJlY2F1c2Ugd2UgbG92ZSB0aGUgbWFycXVlLCABMAEBAQE- References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:27:46 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get involved in a business decision" ... heck, the amount of money most of us spend to try to make these cars do something they were never intended to do is not financially responsible... we do it because we love the marque, hence, emotion over rules sound financial strategy... Merry Christmas ya'll..... Bobby To: Robert M. Lang Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 11:17:32 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction I for one don't give a hoot about re-sale price. I have bags of money and time in my TR4 and wouldn't recover but a fraction of it if I ever chose to sell it. I do it becau se I love the sport and I love the car and I love the continued developement. The rewards ( for me ) cannot be measured in dollars .B We are all on budgets otherwise this would be Friends of Ferrari or Friends of Aston Martin or some such thing. If you love the car and have a vision for it's future just go for it and don't listen to people that try to put a value on your car. just my .02. Jim G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: "Shawn Frank" Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:28:04 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Hi, There's a "wedge" mail list that might be a place to fish for advice on TR8's... you might want to sign up for that. My vote: race car. The sale price of TR8's is hovering at close to zero, so if you buy one and toss bags -o -money at it, you'll still have a TR8 worth close to zero. Sad, ut true. That said, there's a bunch of folks on the wedge list that cater to TR8 and B performance, so it's a pretty good place to start. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang B B B B B B B Triumph TR6!! B B B B B B | B This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair B B B B B B B B B B B B B | Voice:617-253-7438 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B | B Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 13 23:17:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3500B422A0 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:17:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc4-s14.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s14.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B064043D for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:16:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W16 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s14.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:15:58 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: "igofaster@att.net" , "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:15:57 +0000 References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>, <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> FILETIME=[7BA92D60:01CDD9C2] Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net All I ever wanted was to go FAST or even FASTER than everyone else.. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:27:46 -0800 > From: igofaster@att.net > To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get involved in a > business decision" ... heck, the amount of money most of us spend to try to make > these cars do something they were never intended to do is not financially > responsible... we do it because we love the marque, hence, emotion over rules > sound financial strategy... > Merry Christmas ya'll..... > > Bobby > To: Robert M. Lang > Cc: FOT@autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 11:17:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > I for one don't give a hoot about re-sale price. I have bags of money and time > in my TR4 > > and wouldn't recover but a fraction of it if I ever chose to sell it. I do it > becau se I love the > > sport and I love the car and I love the continued developement. > > The rewards ( for me ) cannot be measured in dollars .B We are all on budgets > otherwise this > > would be Friends of Ferrari or Friends of Aston Martin or some such thing. > > If you love the car and have a vision for it's future just go for it and don't > listen to people that > > try to put a value on your car. > > just my .02. > > Jim G. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robert M. Lang" > To: "Shawn Frank" > Cc: FOT@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:28:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > Hi, > > There's a "wedge" mail list that might be a place to fish for advice on > TR8's... you might want to sign up for that. > > My vote: race car. > > The sale price of TR8's is hovering at close to zero, so if you buy one > and toss bags -o -money at it, you'll still have a TR8 worth close to > zero. Sad, ut true. > > That said, there's a bunch of folks on the wedge list that cater to TR8 > and B performance, so it's a pretty good place to start. > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang B B B B B B B Triumph TR6!! B B B B B B | B This space for > rent > Former NER Solo Chair B B B B B B B B B B B B B | > Voice:617-253-7438 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B | B Cell: > 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 05:42:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B6A4052D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:42:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D0740424 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:42:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id xa7so2266484pbc.14 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:41:22 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zTcfEgyojc6TZzLW78ar04IfPWBChEmdIytrcjasShY=; b=BdUyujEHc9KraaiZrSb74DUO7e5YwY/7fXqC3HPdRb0wt82reNvB/jxdqFMou9I8AF T+1158p6nT6dffJgjO/r/IE7AySMo5viRw7DRuwGhShgzkwuTAesdQcqYibENJYfdbBw O7CeWXRlWq9uEGKnv+OyAEnNlJrsIDnmsNAPSvLmaoG58XNkL4eo2l5NGiT7XGsaxjz8 nI4D0vFOk6VJD1XRJtichxilKUz1/m3ICp8Kxpcg3lJsivBVNfkNZxKLCEPRh/OlVLab y/RC3NHG+rWOZcnRqkYPdz7/xYKo3XIrf4YIfv4sX5hnUJlLDg4JPxuqw4mD5q1tunmg CN/Q== Received: by 10.66.75.66 with SMTP id a2mr15442158paw.65.1355488882299; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-153-251.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.153.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f5sm3159076pav.22.2012.12.14.04.41.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:41:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:41:16 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get involved in a > business decision" . And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 06:13:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164B840531 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:13:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE8D403FE for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:13:25 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d41so1992601eek.14 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:12:25 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3OVtaRZkYLNut+KGeoReDhgZR94oSb6mxc8MuYkDZCw=; b=MblBBvIQtaQfHz5jDWkhT4/lvwQhqHlWjrZTNHIJ5unMEZiv5W9KxatMYilDCVBGWg 9ijjMOK5DApv546df5Jf50H7OnW2YxUAO6r039lt2klY+T7O+a3gJYmjc7tnTX2ouyAB SidOxxQI3iGmc9W9oBjlw2UIz8HCG9s4I/OZGr83h51WaEdN/yU7OuaehEvXQvxIFYTb WLCgTmE929ZXg5efqzTBqwvC2bD4iWbA43WVL/STdiS7SKEPRLINsVx17rLsp9JmBKmU dxgiFT/+QyplGvCenUhoM/neumXFwIuM4nd6apL4rZu4jB6fIZgofhNQkpNEH/3GgBa8 UXKA== Received: by 10.14.209.193 with SMTP id s41mr15311258eeo.9.1355490745298; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.198 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:12:25 -0800 (PST) References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:12:25 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Once you sit inside one you will have a totally different feel because it isn't anything like a 3,4,6 or a GT, to me ...really different and nice...modern.....can almost feel the speed and from what I hear (mine isn't running yet) they handle better than a TR-6. good luck with the car and Merry Christmas to all. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:41 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > >> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get >> involved in a >> business decision" . >> > And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with passion > and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. > > My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on the > steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while and see > where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. > > > TeriAnn > > ______________________________**_________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 06:14:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5FF40E52 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:14:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE40403FE for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:14:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65237A4C092 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id brEr44KmTKU8 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 02F20A4C087 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:13:14 -0500 (EST) From: To: References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:13:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As a Wedge owner, I appreciate what Triumph accomplished with the TR7/8. Before you guys move to have me tossed outta here, get behind the wheel of a well sorted wedge. They drive wonderful. One of my pipe dreams to see at vintage races is a spec TR7 class. I envision good, close racing and best of all, behind a Triumph badge. We spec decent, cheap tires from Tire Rack. We figure out a good spring/strut/swaybay package. We run pump gas, so engine mods are kept to a minimum, if any. You need to find a clapped out TR7, 5 minutes on Craigslist shows me 4 cars that are good candidates within 100 miles of me. Install a fuel cell and a cage, and go visit your local Maaco for a scratch and spray paint job. Then do up the suspension per the spec, install your racing seat and harness, and you are ready to go. If you leave the wiring in place, you could even drive the thing to the track! How cool would that be? Who's in??? Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More > Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our future in > vintage racing...time marches on. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 06:24:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A184054C for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:24:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc4-s14.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s14.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D1040404 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:23:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W49 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:22:54 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: , FOT List Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:22:54 -0500 References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com>, <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> FILETIME=[1FF171D0:01CDD9FE] Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Interesting idea. Better looking than Miatas for sure. Cheap too! But only one within 500 miles of me in SC on EBay or CL. Thanks, Chuck Watson Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > From: yellow04@tr4racer.com > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:13:18 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] Wedges > > As a Wedge owner, I appreciate what Triumph accomplished with the TR7/8. > Before you guys move to have me tossed outta here, get behind the wheel of a > well sorted wedge. They drive wonderful. > > One of my pipe dreams to see at vintage races is a spec TR7 class. I > envision good, close racing and best of all, behind a Triumph badge. We spec > decent, cheap tires from Tire Rack. We figure out a good > spring/strut/swaybay package. We run pump gas, so engine mods are kept to a > minimum, if any. > > You need to find a clapped out TR7, 5 minutes on Craigslist shows me 4 cars > that are good candidates within 100 miles of me. Install a fuel cell and a > cage, and go visit your local Maaco for a scratch and spray paint job. Then > do up the suspension per the spec, install your racing seat and harness, and > you are ready to go. If you leave the wiring in place, you could even drive > the thing to the track! > > How cool would that be? > > Who's in??? > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More > > > Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our future in > > vintage racing...time marches on. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 06:58:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDB240537 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:58:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC1540404 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:58:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.61] by nm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 13:57:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.86] by tm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 13:57:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 13:57:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 46712 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2012 13:57:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355493442; bh=TbbXmMA1a6lmffdxKqrB5k4uV/Yw/yocHpnyv6EJjYw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JoApEQMd2BVgPs1lUU0wYAowSNDGYizAUsV3/zRy73OO6xL+6FBqZJmVHCjUSf4tVY28ok8+l9vB/uRiBslZejsef+6TARHVVD+2YXR45Ihq2gVQYuU/eLYvDR8QGMO48sOkR3GzFMhS5WPKNnpqVlx4X6S1j5lAXeXu7FKlZoo= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oCvPHYFtuh9CbVIb5QYPqxlnvLvJDbQHGTm9cBYPPUpjGdTJZDQKc0bDqDMGQn1V9Jc3VgrW1Wv2DpQ3yrB28yvVHOgGTFXlnWclDG9jLIcyolfzJ0aZfQEFOgTg63DyAacLVWbTipkF7fZWydg0r2r8S+A/PMipK1RB8XgjQAk=; IfdLjzVlewysZMcTBzu4BXDLjBIOhLv3tDdVc_zVIrF43XppI_7fEv7HUnPX jF9j_04IsjeC8wdlNMBze81g4wV8OlmnnnQPwCy9JUmT25gxj9z75a.XpUFF mqj8ftte1wy0o2uQbtYWRuy5dldkG1RSRnlWdPUNae4vhc2ELVtdCYyx084m Kl3y4eX0aKI1UdwpT3VFz7rDPQnIN69XQop72_Sc21Bs9AAiMFe.gtdQZhw2 dRaZAiP2GOlnSCoiBzDrKoGMKgfYAWmLDrb_pdj1ORodOXxh6n.0i.DFZpyR wypJxzxMT62rwwFcj5Fux7aa5DPtMa4A5Xd8xuan3OmaFkUsNH9rREcDDPqc V9T5.91bRchUdTYVq2MQiWGwpmWTX8Tgl7XNIUyzfLSuCGtAlLYXz13qA.Z3 gBO41BZrjZY0GRn8CoQsalbrkbix0rvA4B17bPbYwwwTagseaHK.34w.j9zN O7zrU8VR7np21huCwA4tZwTm1pT6G96KaxyZ_Fs5Nkd.C8C6BIJMcf3W3xei 5lQhh96JMjaUyaVboiIRfMG8DBclfzCpIRSxA5O51rR2TvgL9ZmMp3iPRqd1 cQB0eDq9TJhSoPC9e39C_R4xCvODThGTHM7qeoRGBehraWBCustaRwbpPQwg vPyRIH4VY_Yuu7H1BBySpwGEnqJon_T4BsK4KgvVWSFbFtPPoODQaoKWPotR fixjV1UFsjw-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:57:21 PST SSdtIGluISBJdCdsbCBnaXZlIG1lIHNvbWV0aGluZyBmdW4gdG8gZG8gd2l0aCBteSBQaW1lbnRvICc3NS4NCi1FZC0NCg0KLS0tIE9uIEZyaSwgMTIvMTQvMTIsIHllbGxvdzA0QHRyNHJhY2VyLmNvbSA8eWVsbG93MDRAdHI0cmFjZXIuY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQpGcm9tOiB5ZWxsb3cwNEB0cjRyYWNlci5jb20gPHllbGxvdzA0QHRyNHJhY2VyLmNvbT4NClN1YmplY3Q6IFtGb3RdIFdlZGdlcw0KVG86IEZPVEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldA0KRGF0ZTogRnJpZGF5LCBEZWNlbWJlciAxNCwgMjAxMiwgNzoxMyABMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:57:21 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT@autox.team.net, yellow04@tr4racer.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm in! It'll give me something fun to do with my Pimento '75. -Ed- --- On Fri, 12/14/12, yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: From: yellow04@tr4racer.com Subject: [Fot] Wedges To: FOT@autox.team.net Date: Friday, December 14, 2012, 7:13 AM As a Wedge owner, I appreciate what Triumph accomplished with the TR7/8. Before you guys move to have me tossed outta here, get behind the wheel of a well sorted wedge. They drive wonderful. One of my pipe dreams to see at vintage races is a spec TR7 class. I envision good, close racing and best of all, behind a Triumph badge. We spec decent, cheap tires from Tire Rack. We figure out a good spring/strut/swaybay package. We run pump gas, so engine mods are kept to a minimum, if any. You need to find a clapped out TR7, 5 minutes on Craigslist shows me 4 cars that are good candidates within 100 miles of me. Install a fuel cell and a cage, and go visit your local Maaco for a scratch and spray paint job. Then do up the suspension per the spec, install your racing seat and harness, and you are ready to go. If you leave the wiring in place, you could even drive the thing to the track! How cool would that be? Who's in??? Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More > Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our future in > vintage racing...time marches on. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 07:40:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DD140E01 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:40:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E16840436 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:38:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8921C1C000058; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:37:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mbd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mbd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.31.79]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3B179E000082; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:37:43 -0500 (EST) References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com>, <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> To: clw2000@msn.com, yellow04@tr4racer.com, fot@autox.team.net From: kkjjk@aol.com Received: from 72.84.132.36 by Webmail-d119.sysops.aol.com (205.188.168.108) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:37:42 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:37:43 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355495863; bh=/FjdQ4m5eOQyO68Ru5gMjb8E8bvhHpLQIxBusC9EpUw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gu180lyauj+CNUXZL1hIquSDmaA4kJL9rNjsFOXIML/E+YLJR+NAJwzMTZpAJq5YU JL8eFaLHqmoGRcjeNKo1yRYtF/sJOYYMAWFXt4IyiK7V0sa3vPtN4mp3RLx+GubH7g hzMB1NxKaJAwAJ/6eOpAYD2gsfqsynWxrVorU8mc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50cb39b71447 Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry to enter this discussion after seeing only a few comments............TR7/8s are "Like nobody else's car".............They are truly very cool...........I have a racing GT6 that I have never had out on the track. I live in Maryland. Is there anyone whom can give me some guidance on how I can get it on the track somewhere around here (Summit Point, etc)? I only have one seat in it and I have been told that I need to have an instructor in the car with me before they will let me out on my own. Is this true? I would rather not have to put another seat in it. Any help would be great! Thanks- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: Charles WATSON To: yellow04 ; FOT List Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 8:23 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Interesting idea. Better looking than Miatas for sure. Cheap too! But only one within 500 miles of me in SC on EBay or CL. Thanks, Chuck Watson Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > From: yellow04@tr4racer.com > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:13:18 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] Wedges > > As a Wedge owner, I appreciate what Triumph accomplished with the TR7/8. > Before you guys move to have me tossed outta here, get behind the wheel of a > well sorted wedge. They drive wonderful. > > One of my pipe dreams to see at vintage races is a spec TR7 class. I > envision good, close racing and best of all, behind a Triumph badge. We spec > decent, cheap tires from Tire Rack. We figure out a good > spring/strut/swaybay package. We run pump gas, so engine mods are kept to a > minimum, if any. > > You need to find a clapped out TR7, 5 minutes on Craigslist shows me 4 cars > that are good candidates within 100 miles of me. Install a fuel cell and a > cage, and go visit your local Maaco for a scratch and spray paint job. Then > do up the suspension per the spec, install your racing seat and harness, and > you are ready to go. If you leave the wiring in place, you could even drive > the thing to the track! > > How cool would that be? > > Who's in??? > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More > > > Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our future in > > vintage racing...time marches on. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 08:17:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04B24065B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:17:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AE84044F for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:17:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d41so2079588eek.14 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:16:16 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Abxc9B76TZqGtmh5VZv2yeNHlKRCGSynVcN7lgngedc=; b=Z2O2EiNozcerIxiKdDfBSEBK2oLQbnp8LOaRE4n2ScGvesQWxzi7QI7LB6lcfZBaoJ MTxTghx6Rw8OYajlF1nz5w7YPADSnX4EKSJvXuwxwCpOPIL9rRpmXdVbc1ifU2W6JNFz wDDV5wRSDR/GLMU53M2wx3fNs6ioaZemFYm15eIH2UrJmzoU1pC1LPWQGRHv7bYOcKnj sxgt1TpDB79mNTbcEJtbW1tJWog51Z2HBTyHOSmH9i0lMqCnwT+coUhNAvaNsEKrCYTA JDqS57BL8+IVfFSTsm7pmx+8IOt/uDcq3XNJIUxUpvqsuoShMnrf0JQzKFXYEfAhWRfJ Fqjg== Received: by 10.14.213.134 with SMTP id a6mr15799700eep.45.1355498175924; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.198 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:16:15 -0800 (PST) References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <8CFA81FB58C695A-878-A28B@Webmail-d119.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:16:15 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: kkjjk@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Henry , I'm in as I have two coupes, have thought many times over and over wheather to develope one into a racer, and many camp fires with the "getto" crowd on just what you are talking about, are we sticking with the 7 engine , lets get it rolling or more planning, On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:37 AM, wrote: > Sorry to enter this discussion after seeing only a few > comments............TR7/8s are "Like nobody else's car".............They > are > truly very cool...........I have a racing GT6 that I have never had out on > the > track. I live in Maryland. Is there anyone whom can give me some > guidance on > how I can get it on the track somewhere around here (Summit Point, etc)? I > only have one seat in it and I have been told that I need to have an > instructor in the car with me before they will let me out on my own. Is > this > true? I would rather not have to put another seat in it. Any help would > be > great! Thanks- Jay De Pol > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles WATSON > To: yellow04 ; FOT List > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 8:23 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > > > Interesting idea. Better looking than Miatas for sure. Cheap too! But > only > one within 500 miles of me in SC on EBay or CL. > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers > Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > > > > > > > > > > > From: yellow04@tr4racer.com > > To: FOT@autox.team.net > > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:13:18 -0500 > > Subject: [Fot] Wedges > > > > As a Wedge owner, I appreciate what Triumph accomplished with the TR7/8. > > Before you guys move to have me tossed outta here, get behind the wheel > of > a > > well sorted wedge. They drive wonderful. > > > > One of my pipe dreams to see at vintage races is a spec TR7 class. I > > envision good, close racing and best of all, behind a Triumph badge. We > spec > > decent, cheap tires from Tire Rack. We figure out a good > > spring/strut/swaybay package. We run pump gas, so engine mods are kept > to a > > minimum, if any. > > > > You need to find a clapped out TR7, 5 minutes on Craigslist shows me 4 > cars > > that are good candidates within 100 miles of me. Install a fuel cell and > a > > cage, and go visit your local Maaco for a scratch and spray paint job. > Then > > do up the suspension per the spec, install your racing seat and harness, > and > > you are ready to go. If you leave the wiring in place, you could even > drive > > the thing to the track! > > > > How cool would that be? > > > > Who's in??? > > > > Henry > > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More > > > > > Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our future in > > > vintage racing...time marches on. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 08:34:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D54540537 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:34:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87292403F3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:34:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2A1751C00016B; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mta002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.133]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C5AD2E00008C; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:33:01 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:33:00 -0500 (EST) To: rfdeanes@gmail.com, kkjjk@aol.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355499182; bh=HDS6pIQxMzeyiUCBRilmJEWUVFERxXpfvkjMCvLJVj8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G8BuZBaFtdIgLoFQDmN1CoS6cFiYWNcSFlMqs73F++puxDD4jIB35K9fffiDgOun5 bapO29yoRH2Wj7xNxw1rP6yk6JFsbfS4JD94ZfuKblfeoXq7cpRkzp0UEsUYURqYSw lGntUQjCRIe+0vJ/zfMy4tDjZMTZygykqbQv2VCQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a50cb46ad6e60 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 12/14/2012 9:16:26 AM Central Standard Time, rfdeanes@gmail.com writes: > Henry , I'm in as I have two coupes, have thought many times over and > over > wheather to develope one into a racer, and many camp fires with the > "getto" > crowd on just what you are talking about, are we sticking with the 7 > engine > , lets get it rolling or more planning, > I do not know if they are still active, but years ago there was an outfit in Garland, Texas (John's Cars?) that made a career out of putting V6s into TR7s, and claiming the result to be superior to the TR8. This was in the mid-1980s. I almost bought a 'conversion kit' (I had a TR7 fixed head coupe) at the time, but my attention wandered. Don't know if they are still around. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 08:43:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8A24069A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:43:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B7A403EC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:43:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t49so1673507wey.14 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:42:39 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HhyD4rLrFJpwU02Rk/QkzBD6jKNxTqlAq9ub6ropOm4=; b=ugu/NJGKH12yAWuzJ57LgkpYOl+awso7VeuLiGhWGONrXVbyEL/W4FFGOCSltmFjpk AKieqobSYws1OTaNUgmqWU/JAMndhWh5d1yPlGjaY3RV4G5IgRqlqb7FlNnln3WnsYz5 DG0BwzfTwXPC6/N7Jjc+M8p4q7iuOubnmlMwuTFYOTgJ6XgS58rKUa/pYCYXe0aAMgVw /Aws7nAiaxqxrBknfnKigrR6LTaXhg8jyyd4f8AkcYyvWyZ7Tz3Vgk5K0U7pWVU58Mx3 r8QbY4WAqkJ4vLteZQAfHM1VkYePBBuy1DtnWyfAleIyNb0dqwdcpdDS5iJO3p7YK/Ub IKZg== Received: by 10.194.79.34 with SMTP id g2mr4348618wjx.17.1355499758998; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.91.134 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:42:38 -0800 (PST) References: <6735.2b4274e3.3dfca0ac@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:42:38 -0600 From: Irv Korey To: BillDentin@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:33 AM, wrote: I do not know if they are still active, but years ago there was an outfit > in Garland, Texas (John's Cars?) that made a career out of putting V6s into > TR7s, and claiming the result to be superior to the TR8. This was in the > mid-1980s. I almost bought a 'conversion kit' (I had a TR7 fixed head > coupe) > at the time, but my attention wandered. Don't know if they are still > around. > They are. http://www.johnscars.com/ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 08:57:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF3140645 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:57:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp450.redcondor.net (smtp450.redcondor.net [208.80.204.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB0F40518 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:55:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.73]) by smtp450.redcondor.net ({4ad064a1-3618-4418-b4ee-963987bff397}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20121214155426139; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:54:26 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 451070836; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:54:00 -0600 From: To: , , References: <6735.2b4274e3.3dfca0ac@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:53:57 -0600 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net One of the locals put a 3.8 and 5 speed from a Camaro in a TR7 convertible and it was a very nice car. not as much grunt as the TR8 Holly conversion we did but still a very nice ride and 30 MPG. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:33 AM To: rfdeanes@gmail.com ; kkjjk@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges In a message dated 12/14/2012 9:16:26 AM Central Standard Time, rfdeanes@gmail.com writes: > Henry , I'm in as I have two coupes, have thought many times over and > over > wheather to develope one into a racer, and many camp fires with the > "getto" > crowd on just what you are talking about, are we sticking with the 7 > engine > , lets get it rolling or more planning, > I do not know if they are still active, but years ago there was an outfit in Garland, Texas (John's Cars?) that made a career out of putting V6s into TR7s, and claiming the result to be superior to the TR8. This was in the mid-1980s. I almost bought a 'conversion kit' (I had a TR7 fixed head coupe) at the time, but my attention wandered. Don't know if they are still around. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5457 - Release Date: 12/13/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 09:05:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1811740538 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:05:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dataresolution.net (mail.dataresolution.net [209.132.198.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214F440404 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:05:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([10.10.21.33]) by mail.dataresolution.net with ESMTP id tG6QL50vFaTKUOra for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) by DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) with mapi; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:04:15 -0800 From: Kelvin Dodd To: "'fot@autox.team.net'" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:04:14 -0800 Thread-Topic: TR8 Direction Thread-Index: Ac3Z/MH9iNryzc7USF6cHRgWOVpIlQAFfRqA References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race car, when there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of a waste. I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to rain and I realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually worked effectively! The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the majority of classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great value. Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover SD1 is not a Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to fit a market niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without the heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html Kelvin Dodd 1980 TR8 1980 SD1 Other stuff ________________________________ From: Shawn Frank To: "FOT@autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:29 AM Subject: [Fot] Forums Excuse my ignorance, but how do I get to the forums such as the TR8 forum on Friends of Triumph? I can't seem to find it on the website. Is there a link I can follow to explore the different email lists or forums? Thank you in advance, and sorry this is not competition related. This is the only forum I can find right now..Shawn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com From: "Robert M. Lang" To: "Shawn Frank" Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:28:04 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Hi, There's a "wedge" mail list that might be a place to fish for advice on TR8's... you might want to sign up for that. My vote: race car. The sale price of TR8's is hovering at close to zero, so if you buy one and toss bags -o -money at it, you'll still have a TR8 worth close to zero. Sad, ut true. That said, there's a bunch of folks on the wedge list that cater to TR8 and B performance, so it's a pretty good place to start. regards, rml Message: 6 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:41:16 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get involved in a > business decision" . And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 09:13:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A086B40E94 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:13:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e9.ny.us.ibm.com (e9.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A19C40518 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:13:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from /spool/local by e9.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Violators will be prosecuted; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:10:11 -0500 Received: from d01relay03.pok.ibm.com (d01relay03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.235]) by d01dlp02.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DCC6E8065 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from d01av05.pok.ibm.com (d01av05.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.195]) by d01relay03.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id qBEGA6SD290434 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:10:06 -0500 Received: from d01av05.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av05.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id qBEGA5U7020311 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:10:05 -0500 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av05.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id qBEGA50u020303 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:10:05 -0500 References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:09:58 -0500 ZX853FP2HF2|October 8, 2012) at 12/14/2012 11:10:04 x-cbid: 12121416-7182-0000-0000-000003CBFF26 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 73, Issue 26 TR7 spec racer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nothing good can come from this. I followed your suggestion, Look at Craigslist for a wedge. Found a guy 10 minutes from me (Poughkeepsie, NY) selling 3 of them, one on the road, two needing work and another cars worth of parts, all for $1400. The catch is you need to take everything. Didn't go over well on the home front. CL link if someone wants to take a look http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/3443095179.html The good from this, found a just listed TR8, 20 minutes form me, hoping to look at it Saturday. mike G. Michael Harmuth 4 spits and a GT6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 09:18:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD9240E2D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:18:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE6E4051D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:18:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.199] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 16:17:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.66] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 16:17:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 16:17:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355501864; bh=BNWmlQQHJsyeH3zzSBQyXqayzPHj9/oNs88rtWP0SPI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=ALg1p3jpkAYocrru0rGjPdaRqNnFSG83/OnbRTbHz2KMJXFJ7cwj1MrWFYohpqfKXFkwbd4Cy9uRDjR2jP9NvibH/mVrgfBB2JsOIHKkVRxAm7O4Bp1hKi4CPSgGpc0DK5UC7a89wANlX+OANn+rNf3quMM6GcmbvMCpl1kqOKw= qDgUX8eS0Npjz8IJmB5HzgYCamcKEBjtm2KZyz3ON8L8Uvj3z6VawEZ7dkE7 vo9DlCMHhA39femXqAIF2MifhjZw3WUqu_sKSd0vsX0ceveTD0MaFkTFCVq3 TGoGPYafAAAv2zu_LHvg6jJpJn3tPTB1RPpgZiuVgPr3tQfkf_DHG4cMJkPp G929ir3Ixp_g0QmAWc_2D0npfnXYZ1b9y_aMpUKSAFoOnYIUKqJhda0ry2Gk LDhISKOOi_Yo_VaMW5xPVLrhG4m4mUSWEFbwxDWQD7SLTD6spM3nQRHtahSu bYdcuKlmgZlN1W._Rmf8CXjd9YMMyRMvOzKlVxkMUjUIqi1PMJy7jRFpLbEC 7jqfFClsK0G4Zt02WChTI2wXQGiV8kwheL5c20BCS39dOC4ePCwJz986EIje zKN0V.DNA_hd155gxgAc4pp7FXobV3frWGCUFSeHiCuW4mYBKQo9WH82JRoP HPIIhdhyoU4pI0XwEAfy2x9arxMbOhL1lPNfUTVQrIELvA8dPrD9lciGgjGv agla8nIr6Y6cvoZeFU_okzDsx2U7DPOCy5qAuFlHMlJXrn4cERRxVuh_PFhU 9uxYznR.RF0KcwaNua7RcWFcPSFnms09umYCKRD8HBtEbDkPXYDLssF5fVA- - Received: from PaulPC (macdonaldp@173.33.61.212 with login) by smtp103.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2012 08:17:44 -0800 PST From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "'Robert Deanes'" , References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <8CFA81FB58C695A-878-A28B@Webmail-d119.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:17:55 -0500 Thread-Index: AQLBphRq80/lNnkTwHKlnW9bfBh0sgGjS5fBAcrG7q4Bi2yyRgGgR61ClfwR/TA= Content-Language: en-ca Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh9QFFabp2g&lc=f3pYT468USF0IKld1aVk3LsG-btQ_b BNnO0mCWj128o&lch=email&feature=em-comment_received A video of a vintage TR7 that ran GT2 back in the day. I restored it and recently sold it to someone who intends to race it this coming year. Paul -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Deanes Sent: December 14, 2012 10:16 AM To: kkjjk@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Henry , I'm in as I have two coupes, have thought many times over and over wheather to develope one into a racer, and many camp fires with the "getto" crowd on just what you are talking about, are we sticking with the 7 engine , lets get it rolling or more planning, On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:37 AM, wrote: > Sorry to enter this discussion after seeing only a few > comments............TR7/8s are "Like nobody else's > car".............They are truly very cool...........I have a racing > GT6 that I have never had out on the track. I live in Maryland. Is > there anyone whom can give me some guidance on how I can get it on the > track somewhere around here (Summit Point, etc)? I only have one seat > in it and I have been told that I need to have an instructor in the > car with me before they will let me out on my own. Is this true? I > would rather not have to put another seat in it. Any help would be > great! Thanks- Jay De Pol > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles WATSON > To: yellow04 ; FOT List > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 8:23 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > > > Interesting idea. Better looking than Miatas for sure. Cheap too! > But only one within 500 miles of me in SC on EBay or CL. > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers > Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > > > > > > > > > > > From: yellow04@tr4racer.com > > To: FOT@autox.team.net > > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:13:18 -0500 > > Subject: [Fot] Wedges > > > > As a Wedge owner, I appreciate what Triumph accomplished with the TR7/8. > > Before you guys move to have me tossed outta here, get behind the > > wheel > of > a > > well sorted wedge. They drive wonderful. > > > > One of my pipe dreams to see at vintage races is a spec TR7 class. I > > envision good, close racing and best of all, behind a Triumph badge. > > We > spec > > decent, cheap tires from Tire Rack. We figure out a good > > spring/strut/swaybay package. We run pump gas, so engine mods are > > kept > to a > > minimum, if any. > > > > You need to find a clapped out TR7, 5 minutes on Craigslist shows me > > 4 > cars > > that are good candidates within 100 miles of me. Install a fuel cell > > and > a > > cage, and go visit your local Maaco for a scratch and spray paint job. > Then > > do up the suspension per the spec, install your racing seat and > > harness, > and > > you are ready to go. If you leave the wiring in place, you could > > even > drive > > the thing to the track! > > > > How cool would that be? > > > > Who's in??? > > > > Henry > > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More > > > > > Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our > > > future in vintage racing...time marches on. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 10:06:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F87740552 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:06:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9EE40404 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:06:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MF100D5M63WRH90@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:04:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Kelvin Dodd" , References: <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:04:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, If anyone really wants a TR7, I have one. '77, 5 speed, interior good, body decent, low compression on #4 cylinder. Make me a reasonable offer. (I can't get out of the darned thing! Tough getting old! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelvin Dodd" To: Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:04 AM Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction > It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race car, > when > there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of a > waste. > > I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to rain and > I > realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually worked > effectively! > > The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the majority > of > classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great value. > > Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover SD1 is > not a > Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to fit a > market > niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without the > heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. > > I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. > > > You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. > > http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html > > > > > > Kelvin Dodd > 1980 TR8 > 1980 SD1 > Other stuff > > > ________________________________ > From: Shawn Frank > To: "FOT@autox.team.net" > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:29 AM > Subject: [Fot] Forums > > Excuse my ignorance, but how do I get to the forums such as the TR8 forum > on > Friends of Triumph? I can't seem to find it on the website. Is there a > link > I can follow to explore the different email lists or forums? Thank you in > advance, and sorry this is not competition related. This is the only forum > I > can find right now..Shawn _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com > > > > From: "Robert M. Lang" > To: "Shawn Frank" > Cc: FOT@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:28:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > Hi, > > There's a "wedge" mail list that might be a place to fish for advice on > TR8's... you might want to sign up for that. > > My vote: race car. > > The sale price of TR8's is hovering at close to zero, so if you buy one > and toss bags -o -money at it, you'll still have a TR8 worth close to > zero. Sad, ut true. > > That said, there's a bunch of folks on the wedge list that cater to TR8 > and B performance, so it's a pretty good place to start. > > regards, > rml > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:41:16 -0700 > From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > Message-ID: <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get >> involved > in a >> business decision" . > And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with > passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. > > My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on > the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while > and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. > > > TeriAnn > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 10:08:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EF640E97 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:08:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2846240404 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:08:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8DFD138000069; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3F238E00008C; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:36 -0500 (EST) References: <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net> To: doddk@mossmotors.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com (64.12.140.161) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:36 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355504857; bh=qxl4UoFAKMxsEmG1FYb9S+2mYYQHTK/39s/XB0ujWkg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S3LUW60fXgWqh9BZihluSBZE3BAjfP929QMpHCTVRP6kY2WjW378Rcj+A2aJK4yYy FqYdg3QApnxzAGijSWMOSicFydyijf9eEYRrKxbDMShVPd6C0hlkW9+IWuY3iHwrZF sPvsmu5VtbOY2pkyCZuxJD0sA888Ez00WoeedbxY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b50cb5cd81137 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kelvin, is right, according to John Clancy's well done DVD histories on Triumphs. I think I remember seeing a MG 'trial badge' on a TR7 while watching his DVD on TR7/8s. That being said, they still are in our TRIUMPH FAMILY and I suspect we need to bring them into vintage racing. A 'spec' category such as Henry suggests seems like good place to start. Kudos to Shawn Frank for launching this thread. A couple of years ago, it might not have gone anywhere. Its time has come? Once again, I recommend the John Clancy series on TRIUMPH HISTORY. -----Original Message----- From: Kelvin Dodd To: 'fot@autox.team.net' Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 10:04 am Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race car, when there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of a waste. I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to rain and I realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually worked effectively! The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the majority of classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great value. Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover SD1 is not a Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to fit a market niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without the heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html Kelvin Dodd 1980 TR8 1980 SD1 Other stuff ________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 10:53:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAD14052B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:53:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B3F4051F for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:53:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bU8i1k0040FhH24A2VsHZ8; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:52:17 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.72] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bVsF1k00d4L5TyG8UVsG5L; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:52:17 +0000 From: Bud R To: Bill Tobin Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:52:15 -0700 References: <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net> <8A5B770EC20B47AC9206D67F4B912B43@hpd530> s=q20121106; t=1355507537; bh=9dSm93UU1GJJ1tjPjIMvSLW6wwIIAEiIxSJRa1MT5QE=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=LC9yVVGyteQ/GUxcjC98Vo2vK2cB8Ix/+tXdyh1Z0gADrWf0SegfcDlphk52hcff/ Fmo2ERGI6K4MoOH8Ylev7wZ3p9MmfxvqQzq4cuiXx9Og3P+RHfxEXFCsBlBgwahTJQ JjKF02p5AoazjBKDKU7EBqWWQHD6H5BvOBml/VabqT/BsKL9zAkDGf9hhCzj0gS2MN H8QzUHPTWZgWN9HUICL4Tg/Cd3ieg0p8gKxZgIa0x7dvpWPAIP7R2BzLzWVhPlnqTv 617O1cvsspzntSWX/LwtDe/0hGle6itBdwN4aWVxRrjCTogkN12zzf8ZAjhVDt+Ws5 qTFBnF1ll6sig== Cc: fot@autox.team.net, Kelvin Dodd Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And I have a BOP 215 V8 engine that could go in it or any of the wedges I'd entertain unreasonable offers just to move it into the mix. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Dec 14, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Bill Tobin wrote: > Hi All, > If anyone really wants a TR7, I have one. '77, 5 speed, interior > good, body decent, low compression on #4 cylinder. > Make me a reasonable offer. > (I can't get out of the darned thing! Tough getting old! > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelvin Dodd" > > To: > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:04 AM > Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > >> It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race >> car, when >> there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of >> a waste. >> >> I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to >> rain and I >> realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually >> worked >> effectively! >> >> The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the >> majority of >> classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great >> value. >> >> Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover >> SD1 is not a >> Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to >> fit a market >> niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without >> the >> heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. >> >> I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. >> >> >> You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. >> >> http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Kelvin Dodd >> 1980 TR8 >> 1980 SD1 >> Other stuff >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Shawn Frank >> To: "FOT@autox.team.net" >> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:29 AM >> Subject: [Fot] Forums >> >> Excuse my ignorance, but how do I get to the forums such as the TR8 >> forum on >> Friends of Triumph? I can't seem to find it on the website. Is >> there a link >> I can follow to explore the different email lists or forums? Thank >> you in >> advance, and sorry this is not competition related. This is the >> only forum I >> can find right now..Shawn >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com >> >> >> >> From: "Robert M. Lang" >> To: "Shawn Frank" >> Cc: FOT@autox.team.net >> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:28:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction >> >> Hi, >> >> There's a "wedge" mail list that might be a place to fish for >> advice on >> TR8's... you might want to sign up for that. >> >> My vote: race car. >> >> The sale price of TR8's is hovering at close to zero, so if you buy >> one >> and toss bags -o -money at it, you'll still have a TR8 worth close to >> zero. Sad, ut true. >> >> That said, there's a bunch of folks on the wedge list that cater to >> TR8 >> and B performance, so it's a pretty good place to start. >> >> regards, >> rml >> Message: 6 >> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:41:16 -0700 >> From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction >> Message-ID: <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >>> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get >>> involved >> in a >>> business decision" . >> And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with >> passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. >> >> My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand >> on >> the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a >> while >> and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. >> >> >> TeriAnn >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 11:03:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0914440E93 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:03:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s28.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s28.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C48403FE for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:02:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W48 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s28.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:01:58 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: , , Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:01:58 -0800 References: , <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net>, <8CFA834A631559F-1C3C-A6AF@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> FILETIME=[1C01D660:01CDDA25] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net if you really want to see how a TR8 should go, search out "Tony Pond" on youtube from the early/mid 80's in the UK rally championship. The ulster and manx rally's. > To: doddk@mossmotors.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > Kelvin, is right, according to John Clancy's well done DVD histories on > Triumphs. > > I think I remember seeing a MG 'trial badge' on a TR7 while watching his DVD > on TR7/8s. > > That being said, they still are in our TRIUMPH FAMILY and I suspect we need to > bring them into vintage racing. > > A 'spec' category such as Henry suggests seems like good place to start. > > Kudos to Shawn Frank for launching this thread. A couple of years ago, it > might not have gone anywhere. Its time has come? > > Once again, I recommend the John Clancy series on TRIUMPH HISTORY. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelvin Dodd > To: 'fot@autox.team.net' > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 10:04 am > Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > > It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race car, when > there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of a waste. > > I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to rain and I > realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually worked > effectively! > > The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the majority of > classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great value. > > Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover SD1 is not a > Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to fit a market > niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without the > heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. > > I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. > > > You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. > > http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html > > > > > > Kelvin Dodd > 1980 TR8 > 1980 SD1 > Other stuff > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 11:09:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEB640EB9 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:09:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BD440555 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:08:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AC6623800018D; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7B57CE000086; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:07:53 -0500 (EST) References: , <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net>, <8CFA834A631559F-1C3C-A6AF@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> To: horizonracing@msn.com, doddk@mossmotors.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com (64.12.140.161) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:07:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:07:53 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355508473; bh=CZuOtVsISJAw9OsqO7xXNFtXNFvkOn1ToiVEbo7vHgs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lGGSeXbD26vktq3RDN8FWiFgN7lukOEJ2MRaaE0KpJkMiyaFQL3LZTV/M4RD+zQK7 qx8IctYtuOVq37dZoVufLr/EZnWpTQ7cvzuuX6HMXQ5e2h/vhC70eDIKxDvF5N537m OgJSjvTB01OLSRpVJIT+vPCitNhYorGiPvy54I08= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b50cb6af91b58 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was also highly entertained by what BUFFETT and his wife did on rallies Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: n197tr4 ; doddk ; fot Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 12:01 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] TR8 Direction if you really want to see how a TR8 should go, search out "Tony Pond" on youtube from the early/mid 80's in the UK rally championship. The ulster and manx rally's. > To: doddk@mossmotors.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > Kelvin, is right, according to John Clancy's well done DVD histories on > Triumphs. > > I think I remember seeing a MG 'trial badge' on a TR7 while watching his DVD > on TR7/8s. > > That being said, they still are in our TRIUMPH FAMILY and I suspect we need to > bring them into vintage racing. > > A 'spec' category such as Henry suggests seems like good place to start. > > Kudos to Shawn Frank for launching this thread. A couple of years ago, it > might not have gone anywhere. Its time has come? > > Once again, I recommend the John Clancy series on TRIUMPH HISTORY. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelvin Dodd > To: 'fot@autox.team.net' > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 10:04 am > Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > > It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race car, when > there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of a waste. > > I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to rain and I > realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually worked > effectively! > > The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the majority of > classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great value. > > Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover SD1 is not a > Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to fit a market > niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without the > heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. > > I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. > > > You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. > > http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html > > > > > > Kelvin Dodd > 1980 TR8 > 1980 SD1 > Other stuff > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 11:22:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B81F40555 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:22:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4795240410 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:22:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id xa7so2474475pbc.14 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:21:39 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Y+wo/KDfowbRIVhfcAuanpbie7Zl1UkXLgXs5rMl8UE=; b=iPn2TiVr2+7g3fHluxdLO2JvZCtib3NVogYFARSd8oiu+mUZ7LzwP4OvVMYSLzcCAQ r/EPYUIi1CvLKgONfkeSRK17EBTZvmUvvA/iDPZOVB5ol7fOLiRSrbVqCH649Uht246C aF/75xw/djqntZxIWRbJ0OfsTHYT+ZyHL5rr0BlTtX54oyOu5bjomj+eHk4lAfQdI9z+ zRged4qHWSw6eFz0uQJTHsXp1AYLq5iFvd8p4C/OqOfwoMHGR8kAQ84ULV4Mw1psP4DQ YDfp2uJbHjQTH+K7QQ/7G6spUUpirZAVgmLV4PYToVqdsJek7WtjG1/xcAFzmyiD1ORI eLSw== Received: by 10.68.216.134 with SMTP id oq6mr17717714pbc.162.1355509299120; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:21:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.245.132 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:21:38 -0800 (PST) References: <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net> <8CFA834A631559F-1C3C-A6AF@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> <8CFA83D11ECF2FF-1C3C-AF74@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:21:38 -0500 From: robert bownes To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net, doddk@mossmotors.com Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John Buffham...awesome driver in the TR7-V8 and the Audi Quattro Coupe. I'm still looking for a BOP/Rover V8 for the formula car project. I've got the chassis, intake manifold and camshaft so far... :) Bob On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > I was also highly entertained by what BUFFETT and his wife did on rallies > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony and Annie Garmey > To: n197tr4 ; doddk ; fot > > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 12:01 pm > Subject: RE: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > > if you really want to see how a TR8 should go, search out "Tony Pond" on > youtube from the early/mid 80's in the UK rally championship. The ulster > and > manx rally's. > > > > > > > To: doddk@mossmotors.com; fot@autox.team.net > > From: n197tr4@cs.com > > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:36 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > > > Kelvin, is right, according to John Clancy's well done DVD histories on > > Triumphs. > > > > I think I remember seeing a MG 'trial badge' on a TR7 while watching his > DVD > > on TR7/8s. > > > > That being said, they still are in our TRIUMPH FAMILY and I suspect we > need > to > > bring them into vintage racing. > > > > A 'spec' category such as Henry suggests seems like good place to start. > > > > Kudos to Shawn Frank for launching this thread. A couple of years ago, > it > > might not have gone anywhere. Its time has come? > > > > Once again, I recommend the John Clancy series on TRIUMPH HISTORY. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kelvin Dodd > > To: 'fot@autox.team.net' > > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 10:04 am > > Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > > > > > It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race car, > when > > there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of a > waste. > > > > I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to rain > and > I > > realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually > worked > > effectively! > > > > The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the majority > of > > classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great value. > > > > Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover SD1 is > not > a > > Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to fit a > market > > niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without the > > heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. > > > > I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. > > > > > > You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. > > > > http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Kelvin Dodd > > 1980 TR8 > > 1980 SD1 > > Other stuff > > > > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 11:26:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3C640EA0 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:26:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAD140410 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:26:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0EFAC1C00012D; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:25:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A7CB1E000081; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:25:06 -0500 (EST) References: <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net> <8CFA834A631559F-1C3C-A6AF@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> <8CFA83D11ECF2FF-1C3C-AF74@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> To: bownes@seiri.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com (64.12.140.161) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:25:05 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:25:06 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355509507; bh=rxf8M/uNpqQUE/2vym0q39swte4HCisj6ybXA3AKG0w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h1WzAv2zH4RXMesxXO21em7NZkaTckKV1BlziD8Z7DvuDUp93UE7DTDJvz+Skp7hG t6nf2d8a2vpQuMgTtXQzAqb7RQRtCc+4LG6Giwi9XCEr7tBRYrJvjL8EeesyjUVun8 Rp7LQ9y7HzxJSLlBXhaTfoLAqDBhOo6tG4lRdNMU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d50cb6f021dde Cc: fot@autox.team.net, doddk@mossmotors.com Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net senior moment ...yes, BUFFUM no Margaritaville here. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: robert bownes To: Joe Alexander Cc: horizonracing ; doddk ; fot Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction John Buffham...awesome driver in the TR7-V8 and the Audi Quattro Coupe. I'm still looking for a BOP/Rover V8 for the formula car project. I've got the chassis, intake manifold and camshaft so far... :) Bob On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: I was also highly entertained by what BUFFETT and his wife did on rallies Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: n197tr4 ; doddk ; fot Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 12:01 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] TR8 Direction if you really want to see how a TR8 should go, search out "Tony Pond" on youtube from the early/mid 80's in the UK rally championship. The ulster and manx rally's. > To: doddk@mossmotors.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > Kelvin, is right, according to John Clancy's well done DVD histories on > Triumphs. > > I think I remember seeing a MG 'trial badge' on a TR7 while watching his DVD > on TR7/8s. > > That being said, they still are in our TRIUMPH FAMILY and I suspect we need to > bring them into vintage racing. > > A 'spec' category such as Henry suggests seems like good place to start. > > Kudos to Shawn Frank for launching this thread. A couple of years ago, it > might not have gone anywhere. Its time has come? > > Once again, I recommend the John Clancy series on TRIUMPH HISTORY. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelvin Dodd > To: 'fot@autox.team.net' > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 10:04 am > Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > > It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race car, when > there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of a waste. > > I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to rain and I > realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually worked > effectively! > > The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the majority of > classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great value. > > Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover SD1 is not a > Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to fit a market > niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without the > heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. > > I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. > > > You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. > > http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html > > > > > > Kelvin Dodd > 1980 TR8 > 1980 SD1 > Other stuff > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 11:31:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3EF40EA6 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:31:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dataresolution.net (mail.dataresolution.net [209.132.198.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2342140524 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:30:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([10.10.21.33]) by mail.dataresolution.net with ESMTP id PxQfDzoy27ThmspQ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) by DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) with mapi; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:29:36 -0800 From: Kelvin Dodd To: 'Joe Alexander' , "'horizonracing@msn.com'" , "'fot@autox.team.net'" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:29:34 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] TR8 Direction Thread-Index: Ac3aJfCucsHRCGVhQpGHvllrw/H7lgAAbPGw References: , <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net>, <8CFA834A631559F-1C3C-A6AF@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> <8CFA83D11ECF2FF-1C3C-AF74@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is one of John Buffum's ex works TR7s that was being rallied in New Mexico in 1984. It had been converted to a V8 by the owner. http://s460.photobucket.com/albums/qq327/Kelvin13/Stuff/?action=view¤t= Oct8413.jpg My mediocre claim to automotive fame was to crash about 1 mile past where John Buffum's Audi had broken down during the 1981 Centennial National Pro Rally. http://s460.photobucket.com/albums/qq327/Kelvin13/Stuff/?action=view¤t= Sept81.jpg Kelvin Dodd ________________________________________ From: Joe Alexander [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:08 AM To: horizonracing@msn.com; Kelvin Dodd; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction I was also highly entertained by what BUFFETT and his wife did on rallies Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: n197tr4 ; doddk ; fot Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 12:01 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] TR8 Direction if you really want to see how a TR8 should go, search out "Tony Pond" on youtube from the early/mid 80's in the UK rally championship. The ulster and manx rally's. > To: doddk@mossmotors.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > Kelvin, is right, according to John Clancy's well done DVD histories on > Triumphs. > > I think I remember seeing a MG 'trial badge' on a TR7 while watching his DVD > on TR7/8s. > > That being said, they still are in our TRIUMPH FAMILY and I suspect we need to > bring them into vintage racing. > > A 'spec' category such as Henry suggests seems like good place to start. > > Kudos to Shawn Frank for launching this thread. A couple of years ago, it > might not have gone anywhere. Its time has come? > > Once again, I recommend the John Clancy series on TRIUMPH HISTORY. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelvin Dodd > To: 'fot@autox.team.net' > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 10:04 am > Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > > It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race car, when > there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of a waste. > > I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to rain and I > realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually worked > effectively! > > The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the majority of > classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great value. > > Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover SD1 is not a > Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to fit a market > niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without the > heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. > > I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. > > > You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. > > http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html > > > > > > Kelvin Dodd > 1980 TR8 > 1980 SD1 > Other stuff > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 11:41:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CFD40534 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:41:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A014052B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:41:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.100] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 18:40:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 18:40:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 18:40:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355510413; bh=N2SaL6Cpx45hJpzAK6BQAxpZZT1hHJRuimP20rPWjJQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=VuERnxCr5BGzBwZBvgwMIhbpN3pd05wan5ZpvFWlyDLgy4RZWzmlMfFK0r657G6lsXvvuTPYkivYH2uFmUMipfOo5vMgb9dNhkGPi0L7x89lOItz7ASw5n2pJbVhsvGXab71FebKuSVhDeUe7w1MLCDWB2rvtZ44H9Z8V5E6VmU= _bNBiMFlpxZLOGpuQ3kedKXyfBUAbE8HhNmKO3w7PJIW5gB0CrkdWjc6FYJY aWK0daqDJKjpGLNDeYD.bYXOVyHZ7L3kvY67lXY7LcATBoU6sya3qXjzoONj fFNXW4tnNnUody6IiexmGh3Kyh6E4u8qergz5UBKCw_YWnemnsgGYwFRhQKQ zANZG468swjfsLLw7h7.MlmAqIC8vdOKwJCBofqdAyhk2efIRTfC883N6ZNu ObFUy1ZMKfQcZiJX6w7liyrwOk9XFJtVtn6ieH6_UUP49zeQOttjXBUP7.Vu _xUu6DpR9tr7XKAqn8I61TZnDZJtm7xzoDZ84AN7IJyxz8BnobJ.7CrZRED3 o7JmU1WBCP1oJcSPxEejqsnFylvYx5AdM8hIDChC8JwwDPSMrBnLETW8k2E2 PifBR38XXai3DNOjYzehuE7n1k2oG Received: from richardiipc (tarch@98.66.163.53 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2012 10:40:13 -0800 PST From: "Richard Taylor" To: References: , <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net>, <8CFA834A631559F-1C3C-A6AF@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> <8CFA83D11ECF2FF-1C3C-AF74@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:40:12 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3aJhiahcrIycQ8Qz++bFclBrgTswAA5x/w Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I trying to catch up on this thread, I stumbled onto: DC Shoes: Ken Block's Gymkhana Five Google it. It's staggering! Richard Taylor _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 11:42:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AABF40EA5 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:42:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23C64052F for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:42:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4ADDA1C0001B6; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 09063E000096; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:41:06 -0500 (EST) References: , <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A4D5@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net>, <8CFA834A631559F-1C3C-A6AF@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> <8CFA83D11ECF2FF-1C3C-AF74@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FDD6A517@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net> To: doddk@mossmotors.com, horizonracing@msn.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com (64.12.140.161) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:41:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:41:05 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355510466; bh=MpdoNhaL8pi1hcIJHaV6GQ9R9JYVdRMDRCRFO+uay3c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iWXuT5CNaQmAJDZ+8rP+NJ5PF47cohjpOQZzQYYyqmmPKe4Je+m10rGGca8L6GJgv JlNjoDD/5TeCrQKOwewj23rPCx9q67ch7i/RaOSwzeLs80NWvgUfexQeXIWkJzpKKP lyTB8V/uQUYhBNNizW0jO/am/aSL8zAhR42wmgYY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb50cb72c2263a Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kelvin, it sure looks like you, only much younger.....thanks! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Kelvin Dodd To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'horizonracing@msn.com' ; 'fot@autox.team.net' Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 12:29 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] TR8 Direction This is one of John Buffum's ex works TR7s that was being rallied in New Mexico in 1984. It had been converted to a V8 by the owner. http://s460.photobucket.com/albums/qq327/Kelvin13/Stuff/?action=view¤t= Oct8413.jpg My mediocre claim to automotive fame was to crash about 1 mile past where John Buffum's Audi had broken down during the 1981 Centennial National Pro Rally. http://s460.photobucket.com/albums/qq327/Kelvin13/Stuff/?action=view¤t= Sept81.jpg Kelvin Dodd ________________________________________ From: Joe Alexander [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:08 AM To: horizonracing@msn.com; Kelvin Dodd; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction I was also highly entertained by what BUFFETT and his wife did on rallies Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: n197tr4 ; doddk ; fot Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 12:01 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] TR8 Direction if you really want to see how a TR8 should go, search out "Tony Pond" on youtube from the early/mid 80's in the UK rally championship. The ulster and manx rally's. > To: doddk@mossmotors.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:07:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > Kelvin, is right, according to John Clancy's well done DVD histories on > Triumphs. > > I think I remember seeing a MG 'trial badge' on a TR7 while watching his DVD > on TR7/8s. > > That being said, they still are in our TRIUMPH FAMILY and I suspect we need to > bring them into vintage racing. > > A 'spec' category such as Henry suggests seems like good place to start. > > Kudos to Shawn Frank for launching this thread. A couple of years ago, it > might not have gone anywhere. Its time has come? > > Once again, I recommend the John Clancy series on TRIUMPH HISTORY. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelvin Dodd > To: 'fot@autox.team.net' > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 10:04 am > Subject: [Fot] TR8 Direction > > > It may be sacrilege on this list, but gutting a TR8 to make a race car, when > there are limited competition venues available, to me, is a bit of a waste. > > I remember the first time I got my TR8 on the road. It started to rain and I > realized that the car had wipers and a defrost system that actually worked > effectively! > > The TR8 is a really great road car. It is capable of dusting the majority of > classic British sports cars, yet is comfortable and still a great value. > > Just don't think of it as a Triumph. It's not. Just as the Rover SD1 is not a > Rover. Both cars are British Leyland designs, that got badged to fit a market > niche. They have to be appreciated as stand alone designs, without the > heritage (and hand me down engineering) of the earlier marques. > > I'm with TeriAnn, get in the car and see where your dreams take you. > > > You can access an excellent TR7/8 group through this web link. > > http://www.team.net/TR8/Mailing-List.html > > > > > > Kelvin Dodd > 1980 TR8 > 1980 SD1 > Other stuff > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 12:33:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C8B40530 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:33:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735534051E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:33:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id o19so1092487qap.14 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:32:19 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=SWG4Goe7Wt+Zw2D/09Okd2ZbeuybJC6rdzL8cByJeBs=; b=npYuVS3Fw2DOzlE9OVlkZI83utfRlnuJtIcvFvjDgZ7hpm9qEMd8nFuhbd1J2xiz/Q dAoawsf0Cj6a6508uYpaxYjvqM0V7Ej6K4m3rkvj9uJVOyg4N9+GvhennZPwYTuM60jS ohglQqyPFKY51ZyTOe6hnmzJm67m1Ww7MAZt+adb3FlIgob1qnnQlWopEnwF6gPinGQU ZlW6Mv/lJiLAvu5tYiBH+CPMQdSudRtbm4G2v7PNc+ytGsVWTZYRuXk0kWYb36j4iE8u E8iOm5AyFGfsNJBM+6BLLN7hL39IV3GqnaXsmwYgtYKa2oDPZNQ7m/RP+jkNNuUaX5rj h/NQ== Received: by 10.224.116.12 with SMTP id k12mr3264479qaq.47.1355513539271; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.63.66 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:32:19 -0800 (PST) References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <8CFA81FB58C695A-878-A28B@Webmail-d119.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:32:19 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: kkjjk@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:37 AM, wrote: > Sorry to enter this discussion after seeing only a few > comments............TR7/8s are "Like nobody else's car".............They > are > truly very cool...........I have a racing GT6 that I have never had out on > the > track. I live in Maryland. Is there anyone whom can give me some > guidance on > how I can get it on the track somewhere around here (Summit Point, etc)? I > only have one seat in it and I have been told that I need to have an > instructor in the car with me before they will let me out on my own. Is > this > true? I would rather not have to put another seat in it. Any help would > be > great! Thanks- Jay De Pol > Hello Jay De Pol... > Interesting post. I'm afraid your GT6 question will get lost in this Wedge discussion. It would be best if you started a new thread about your racing GT6... please Tell a bit more about your GT6 race car. (When was it built, for what sanctioning body, what has been modified for racing and to what extent...etc.) You have several options of places to run it, but my guess is there will be more things to consider than whether or not you need to have an extra seat in the car... Which, for the record you won't have to have in place for any nationally recognized Drivers school. With more info, several of us will be happy to point you in the right direction. It depends on what you have there and what the end goal is Thanks. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 14:29:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE03140516 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:29:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from rhombus.bright.net (rhombus.bright.net [209.143.0.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF8540516 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:28:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from spamtest4.bright.net (spamtest4.bright.net [209.143.0.182]) by rhombus.bright.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBELPfEr027445 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:25:41 -0500 Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by spamtest4.bright.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBELRaPY021628 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:27:36 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id BRV16186 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:27:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:27:37 -0500 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> refid=str=0001.0A020207.50CB99C8.0062,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Shawn, thanks for starting this discussion. We campaigned some of the most successful Wedge cars in the USA. Competing in SCCA, our TR8 won many SCCA Nationals, always picked to win the SCCA Run-off's (it didn't, but my fault, not car's fault - details if anyone wants them). Held multiple track records and very successful in the Playboy and Escort Endurance series, often beating factory backed cars from Ford, Chrysler, GM, Nissan, Mitsubishi and others. Along with the TR8, we also campaigned a TR7 in the Endurance series. While not as fast as the V8, the TR7 held its own in class due to excellent handling and incredibly good fuel mileage. We developed many of the performance parts for these cars including brake upgrades, sway bars, springs, strut tower braces, headers and more. Coupes are far superior to roadsters, both it terms of structural integrity and top speed. Side by side testing at Road Atlanta showed several hundred rpm greater speed (both cars had same trans and diff gears). This was on the original Road Atlanta back straight before they turned it into the current"neutered" version (read this no dip at end of straight) Remember if it is a roadster, it has to race with top down. We also supplied data to Edlebrock when they designed the 4V intake manifold for this engine. Our normal street V8 in 3.5L form is 250hp. Over 320 hp for the larger displacement 4.0/4.6L engines. Rust issues at the strut tower to inner fender well junction and where the rear lower trailing arms attach to the sheet metal are the biggest problems. Patching a rusted fender is not a big deal. Remember this is a uni-body car so things are different from racing a car with a frame. Rover/TR8 engine is far superior to it's Buick ancestor. We normally have 30 - 40 V8 engines in stock. HP figures for TR7 are 130 - 40 with no major "engine life threatening mods. Yes, John Clancy has a good DVD on the car - "Code name Bullet". And all his videos are still on sale for $21 w/shipping through the first of the year. Let's hear it for the "flying doorstops". Ted On 12/12/2012 8:23 AM, Shawn Frank wrote: > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx@bright.net > > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 14:42:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B317642456 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:42:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EABF40EC1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:42:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBELfKE8005366; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:41:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:41:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Shawn Frank References: <1355419762.48346.YahooMailNeo@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Forums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Not to beat a dead horse, but there's a "wedge" mail list that is run on a server at MIT in the Lab for Computer Science, aka LCS. The list administration is automated, it's a "majordomo" for the computer freeX out there. If you seen a message to: majordomo@mercury.lcs.mit.edu with the line: subscribe in the message body, you should get a reply indicating that you're on the list. I have no idea if this list is connected to anything on the autox.team.net server or not, others will have to chime in on that one. But there's a slew of really dedicated Wedge Triumph folks on that list... and the list is fairly active. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 14:54:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3479340EC3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:54:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dunnwalshholdings.com (dunnwalshholdings.com [70.166.11.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA0440EC1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:54:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa%13]) with mapi; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:51:20 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:53:25 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] TR8 direction Thread-Index: Ac3aRSZUs0vMk93/S767UUARQFsO8g== References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Brilliant... Post of the year. Ed Dunn GT6 Spitfire Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:39 AM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" wrote: > On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get involved in a >> business decision" . > And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with > passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. > > My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on > the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while > and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. > > > TeriAnn > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 15:15:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B5D42266 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:15:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BC940EC3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:14:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.59] by nm24.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 22:13:55 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.252] by tm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 22:13:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1060.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2012 22:13:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 68973 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2012 22:13:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355523235; bh=QJW5V98VSXDWXarvzshCb+Y0qjk3YIBERgSLV03u2M8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I+ftrc36yzrOO9MPUdXrj9CX0tOTC5H81vWxbn1RJPdthdAHeuCbo98PjWpqJTjEvEMeaf6rH840Ai6QM5bXz214ppy80xrXEyl2dgQxBf3ZZKjRJQDN2171yxY4jyLyjYz8fwDXfs61XtA6jHk7Z4c3XQsWHYErzEceD7/DMo0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RkMDXAntPQUI9MmZKxAgOOZrlsDJsVQl743fqPtnDRUYAWvIhkYi9Z5b2DNQ9dJpZysKGYw2fRnlXdSJgi8SVEirSfJejJUEz7waw41tPuQYAyFNtyzt43t+8roew+bSjOVtxjJ9O/B0UsXHKipzLyEkQ5wMT9qriNQe3PGhbbM=; 820Eu.dDDxgx61_K.7APxXNvAmYJg3HBNDWTblRuZVWF5XQLC.sbrUCeUlRu yw6uT3CgAKZfk5mxnXMT.xXRuVMza5ZZe86yoIlvF0HUe7gK5.tjIgDD_uxp nPi0LiWm1TFuqSVKKm7lHomZARszY7Zip2AeM1pEytZhyXw8Pv0DZ5dyzV7b ZrRRa8GQfCxn57Ap3x5hy4yb9nEzRwUOExVRf6rR3aHxp0B5KlRl4L8P5.6s GWCRvISfopS9cSEMuHOFOYuX06sskqp_JoGFnZHTSLUHmnWI9BX09xgklqXi W0XAC5m7iAzmm8FwDQBYldzj9EqFWbhxeZ1BANDTkoqny7LaAwl7x5t921Tb L5EdX_TkJY2fXX3KRJbObxW7oVcwbNo0b48dcnCe9CnVvs_GwDrQp9R4xH_z oK.IcLaUjsGOmeEXhjXi64UoTORdaDVf8dFGO1tDY9.0KaBMk1vIfEnOtJ0C 9u6N8Qg-- Received: from [64.196.19.194] by web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:13:54 PST SSB3aWxsIGhhdmUgdG8gZ2V0IHRoaXMgdGhpbmcgb3V0IG9uIHRyYWNrIHRoZW4uIFRoYW5rcyBldmVyeW9uZSwgYW5kIGdsYWQgdG8gc3BhcmsgZ3JlYXQgY29udmVyc2F0aW9uLiBJIHdvdWxkIGxvdmUgdG8gZmluZCBvdXQgbW9yZSBhYm91dCBhIFRSNy9UUjggdHlwZSBvZiBjbGFzcy4gSSBhbSBtb3JlIG9mIGEgU3BpdGZpcmUvVFI2IHR5cGUgb2YgZ3V5LCBidXQgaGF2ZSByZWNlbnRseSBkcml2ZW4gYSBUUjQgYW5kIGxvdmVkIGl0LiBXZSBoYXZlIGEgVFI0QSB0aGF0IHdpbGwgYmUgZmluaXNoZWQgc28BMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:13:54 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: "tjwakeman@gmail.com" , "edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will have to get this thing out on track then. Thanks everyone, and glad to spark great conversation. I would love to find out more about a TR7/TR8 type of class. I am more of a Spitfire/TR6 type of guy, but have recently driven a TR4 and loved it. We have a TR4A that will be finished soon for Drive Away Cancer Iowa. I don't think we will be racing that, but I definitely plan to try out the TR8 and know I will be auto crossing my Spitfire. There aren't but a couple vintage cars that auto cross around here. I hope to spark more interest in the vintage auto crossing. Maybe if I bring 3 cars to the auto crosses, others will bring more. I feel all alone here in Des Moines...Shawn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 15:51:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E54C42468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:51:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083C540555 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:49:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.252.34.65] (102.sub-174-252-156.myvzw.com [174.252.156.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qBEMm40Y025918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:48:06 -0500 References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> <7A90541A-9FAC-41CD-B011-01302ED6071D@qualityfueltrailers.com> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:48:03 -0500 To: Edward Dunn a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zkiGSyfS1woCE4myuCLAsw==:17 a=BvJzy2JUAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Hr8wNfR8-B0A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=zkiGSyfS1woCE4myuCLAsw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This confirms what I have suspected for some time. GT6 folks march to a different drum than the rest of us! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Edward Dunn wrote: > Brilliant... Post of the year. > > Ed Dunn > GT6 > Spitfire > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:39 AM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" > wrote: > >> On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >>> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get involved > in a >>> business decision" . >> And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with >> passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. >> >> My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on >> the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while >> and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. >> >> >> TeriAnn >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 15:56:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA46422E4 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:56:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B1440EB9 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:56:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r4so3790848iaj.14 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:55:49 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from:date :content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=IeS6LTepdkVS5VdQCBF2KlNMJlxH659fO7dc60yrTcE=; b=odnezffZzvqEos0qgGVPQi/4wtp/0hONolanFNJsrVO5fG/S7xhId5xD6acIrBd1Xk EwgcyEFAnImFgTMhlukXrEPWB8EtMqh/p/G3qdq0j1Em7QOgayfbf88aaA1la49dq3a+ d3XOhS8qtst+aNa+vSowPxH86nRH78oetPiB+XECkHSTUteT7sbKw9mGe3vapi+R/ZSS RjBl+qc44bOA3DQAAFtpyXTayY5ScVHbsKiem/ybEkRjcYLJAWGknRZh2A5gS+An7DH2 hgaGX/7Aa4flUtgYrrCmP3ohzMTtvSTPWlbksCcaWkxzfze0OMKzMpLCLqbnaFlL/+FB 3qBA== y10mr3117424igb.58.1355525749135; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.188 (bda-74-82-80-128.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v12sm5103722igv.3.2012.12.14.14.55.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:55:48 -0800 (PST) References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> <7A90541A-9FAC-41CD-B011-01302ED6071D@qualityfueltrailers.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "John Hasty" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"Edward Dunn" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 22:55:44 +0000 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You're kind of right.. Same drum really though....Our beat is just a little faster. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Edward Dunn Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction This confirms what I have suspected for some time. GT6 folks march to a different drum than the rest of us! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Edward Dunn wrote: > Brilliant... Post of the year. > > Ed Dunn > GT6 > Spitfire > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:39 AM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" > wrote: > >> On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >>> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get involved > in a >>> business decision" . >> And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with >> passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. >> >> My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on >> the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while >> and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. >> >> >> TeriAnn >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 16:41:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9A442461 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:41:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFB540EB9; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:41:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.252.34.65] (102.sub-174-252-156.myvzw.com [174.252.156.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qBENe2oF016453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:40:04 -0500 References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> <7A90541A-9FAC-41CD-B011-01302ED6071D@qualityfueltrailers.com> <1174875373-1355525746-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1012026896-@b26.c3.bise6.blackberry> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:40:01 -0500 To: "jason@multivintage.com" a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=zkiGSyfS1woCE4myuCLAsw==:17 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=BvJzy2JUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Ze96msxwglxYkKg2h7kA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=Hr8wNfR8-B0A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=zkiGSyfS1woCE4myuCLAsw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net TouchC) chez Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:55 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > You're kind of right.. Same drum really though....Our beat is just a little faster. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hasty > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:48:03 > To: Edward Dunn > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > This confirms what I have suspected for some time. GT6 folks march to a > different drum than the rest of us! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Edward Dunn > wrote: > >> Brilliant... Post of the year. >> >> Ed Dunn >> GT6 >> Spitfire >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:39 AM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >>>> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get > involved >> in a >>>> business decision" . >>> And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with >>> passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. >>> >>> My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on >>> the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while >>> and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. >>> >>> >>> TeriAnn >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 16:51:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF964246A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:51:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CCA4053B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:49:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU173-W37 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:48:49 -0800 From: Henry Morrison To: , fot Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:49 -0700 References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>, <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> FILETIME=[90BDDE10:01CDDA55] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's how I got to the point of owning eight sportscars! > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:41:16 -0700 > From: tjwakeman@gmail.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get involved in a > > business decision" . > And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with > passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. > > My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on > the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while > and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. > > > TeriAnn > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 17:00:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79FA42474 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:00:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s20.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s20.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADAB40E37 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:00:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU173-W19 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:59:36 -0800 From: Henry Morrison To: fot Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:59:37 -0700 References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>, , <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, , <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com>, FILETIME=[125EB920:01CDDA57] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We drove the TR6 and the TR7 through Colorado and the TR6 took twice the Fuel at every fill up compared to the TR7. Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 17:03:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDA04247E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:03:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6400403EC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:02:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20121215000155.KVRC6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11>; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:01:55 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.6] ([68.112.108.51]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id bc1v1k00516aBHQ05c1veN; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:01:55 -0500 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=QFTu94XW4BcA:10 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=BvJzy2JUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Ze96msxwglxYkKg2h7kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=Hr8wNfR8-B0A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:117 From: Jerry Barr Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:01:54 -0600 References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> <7A90541A-9FAC-41CD-B011-01302ED6071D@qualityfueltrailers.com> <20121214225710.D9A4C40EB9@autox.team.net> To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: "fot@autox.team.net friends" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think GT6 people like the challenge of making a difficult car go fast Jerry Barr #59 Red GT6 On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:55 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > You're kind of right.. Same drum really though....Our beat is just a little faster. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hasty > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:48:03 > To: Edward Dunn > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > This confirms what I have suspected for some time. GT6 folks march to a > different drum than the rest of us! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Edward Dunn > wrote: > >> Brilliant... Post of the year. >> >> Ed Dunn >> GT6 >> Spitfire >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:39 AM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >>>> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get > involved >> in a >>>> business decision" . >>> And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with >>> passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. >>> >>> My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on >>> the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while >>> and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. >>> >>> >>> TeriAnn >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 17:03:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF9D42479 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:03:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5960403EC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:02:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU173-W8 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:01:57 -0800 From: Henry Morrison To: fot Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:01:57 -0700 References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>, , , <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, , , <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com>, , , FILETIME=[662E4250:01CDDA57] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Somebody come and get the two TR7's I have in my yard. One Coupe and a roadster, no titles so I'll have to cut 'em up to get rid of them. Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 17:08:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AFE4247C for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:08:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353B3403EC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:06:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bVLy1k00J1wfjNsA1c5av8; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 00:05:34 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bc5Y1k00g2vctGa8jc5ZRh; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 00:05:33 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Henry Morrison" , , "fot" References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>, <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:05:32 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1355529934; bh=8Age5cH02g53HcqnTemADeLQnBny2ddubqKubUPQfdk=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RI7MT9Nj+8XWCht+giLPo6rJp7ev81DUEOhrq72lhHaHDRVty5O8ChgP+jO/8SumS x2q4znK38wnVNDGAAi0blazeP8YSQebX5CqBDfsz4TgN/rruRatLn8Kkc+tCH3j9oo NfX5Xokgkdsirc3Gbw6/Z72V6ROHQPyS0Fa52bx5rblwPRR4yFUXEYKHEgAafyZPJp khtvDRcMZEJIFtpKk9Hb+p5sD1qdFWN4hdww2Ds/b1bdB2h5M2gYXF7yD45zPmD6zY 9SHwy4Lt5OV0gxioYRToqbT7giGv98GhVQtAC2nzO76vJjZtr8Mz45Mdpm6hwDO6vr 0toH7ORkXFmVg== Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good old TR8 story... Showroom stock race at Riverside Dave Vanek won the race in his TR8...they were claiming races then to try to keep it honest and cheap.....A competitor could buy any car for 500.00 over cost of car before roll cage, etc.... Someone made a claim on Vanek's TR8....He refused to sell the car, and after lots of arguing he called the police and said the guy was trying to steal his car.. I think that was the end of the claiming races.. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Morrison" To: ; "fot" Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > That's how I got to the point of owning eight sportscars! > > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:41:16 -0700 >> From: tjwakeman@gmail.com >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction >> >> On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> > I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get >> > involved > in a >> > business decision" . >> And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with >> passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. >> >> My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on >> the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while >> and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. >> >> >> TeriAnn >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 17:25:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAB64246D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:25:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D435240EB9 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:24:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 628101C000060; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mbd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mbd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.31.79]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0FC5BE000087; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:23:49 -0500 (EST) References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com> <7A90541A-9FAC-41CD-B011-01302ED6071D@qualityfueltrailers.com> <20121214225710.D9A4C40EB9@autox.team.net> <75845865-46C5-45E6-8A0D-74B8D0273727@charter.net> To: jerrybarr@charter.net, jason@multivintage.com Received: from 72.84.138.87 by Webmail-d119.sysops.aol.com (205.188.168.108) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:23:48 -0500 From: kkjjk@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:23:48 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355531029; bh=iaRxZi/TZ9isEG0Tlphdsx2QyRjHA9DtR1tdEOD48MA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l4zRmf91+Epg6eom25bNVQFV+iXsRYU3ass5B9giX9g9MbiQX8quW8PkiVlqNDp4N MANwPPR4L/c+B2KdlBwugbquQFU5+KJyZLvmHRkpBnKCyqHl/7tH1VMAi3UV510x4G wBa2keleDd+sTuXA4NfaSeXuD1PYGhbk80CManB8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca50cbc3155a3c Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Someone once told me that a GT6 is a bad race car...............I replied that that is the challenge...........Kind of like when my algebra 2 teacher in high scholl told me about when he went flying with a friend in a 172 and tried to pull off a maneuver that was just a bit out of the envelope...........He said that he wasn't interested in flying that way, as he was an F-4 guy in the Air Force many years prior..........I repeated that story to my dad (a civilian trained AA Captain for 30 years, as well as a Bonanza owner, and whom was an instructor in the Air Force in T-6s)..........His response was classic, and forever ingrained in my brain: "Ah, what the guy does not understand........It's the art of working within the limits of the airplane is what makes the pilot truly great"..............Just ask Bob Hoover, they only guy I know that may be a better pilot than my dad...............! -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Barr To: jason Cc: fot@autox.team.net friends Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 7:02 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction I think GT6 people like the challenge of making a difficult car go fast Jerry Barr #59 Red GT6 On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:55 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > You're kind of right.. Same drum really though....Our beat is just a little faster. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hasty > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:48:03 > To: Edward Dunn > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > This confirms what I have suspected for some time. GT6 folks march to a > different drum than the rest of us! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Edward Dunn > wrote: > >> Brilliant... Post of the year. >> >> Ed Dunn >> GT6 >> Spitfire >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:39 AM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >>>> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get > involved >> in a >>>> business decision" . >>> And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with >>> passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. >>> >>> My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on >>> the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while >>> and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. >>> >>> >>> TeriAnn >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 17:35:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997F94246F for ; 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What a great group of guys with all kinds of knowledge. Thank you for letting me participate in the Friends of Triumph. I am honored. A little work on the Spitfire, and waiting out the Iowa winter and I will be auto crossing it while building my Spitfire Race Car and also enjoying the TR8 as well. This year will be epic! I can't wait! Thanks again guys! Hope to see you in person some time! Shawn ________________________________ From: "kkjjk@aol.com" To: jerrybarr@charter.net; jason@multivintage.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Someone once told me that a GT6 is a bad race car...............I replied that that is the challenge...........Kind of like when my algebra 2 teacher in high scholl told me about when he went flying with a friend in a 172 and tried to pull off a maneuver that was just a bit out of the envelope...........He said that he wasn't interested in flying that way, as he was an F-4 guy in the Air Force many years prior..........I repeated that story to my dad (a civilian trained AA Captain for 30 years, as well as a Bonanza owner, and whom was an instructor in the Air Force in T-6s)..........His response was classic, and forever ingrained in my brain: "Ah, what the guy does not understand........It's the art of working within the limits of the airplane is what makes the pilot truly great"..............Just ask Bob Hoover, they only guy I know that may be a better pilot than my dad...............! -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Barr To: jason Cc: fot@autox.team.net friends Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 7:02 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction I think GT6 people like the challenge of making a difficult car go fast Jerry Barr #59 Red GT6 On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:55 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > You're kind of right.. Same drum really though....Our beat is just a little faster. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hasty > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:48:03 > To: Edward Dunn > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > This confirms what I have suspected for some time. GT6 folks march to a > different drum than the rest of us! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Edward Dunn > wrote: > >> Brilliant... Post of the year. >> >> Ed Dunn >> GT6 >> Spitfire >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:39 AM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/13/12 10:27 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >>>> I'm with Jim... my late father used to say "never let emotion get > involved >> in a >>>> business decision" . >>> And then there is my way of making decisions: "Do everything with >>> passion and compassion" It lets you live life like you mean it. >>> >>> My suggestion is to sit inside the TR8, behind the wheel. One hand on >>> the steering wheel, one on the shift knob. Just sit there for a while >>> and see where your day dreams take you. Then follow your dreams. >>> >>> >>> TeriAnn >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/my71spit13@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 18:29:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBA942262 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:29:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163B04054B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:29:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F5CA12AD for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:29:07 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:29:07 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot References: <389206900.1023835.1355419027505.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>, , , <1355462866.58076.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, , , <50CB1E6C.8030501@gmail.com>, , , Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Henry Morrison wrote: > Somebody come and get the two TR7's I have in my yard. One Coupe and a > roadster, no titles so I'll have to cut 'em up to get rid of them. I wish! I need some parts to get the one in my backyard running again. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 18:36:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3BA42468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:36:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127804051E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:36:20 -0700 (MST) a=1t4t41njZ21UTC2cGtH4ng==:17 a=QTInK6ZJLCIA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=QsKZxYXFYL4A:10 a=879b_Iw0AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=tI-5ZamrB7cceJNPwg0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=1QNhSFbQkrsA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=_RFGIZasADZaf0eV:21 a=7Df_gRD8_sA4LYM_:21 a=1t4t41njZ21UTC2cGtH4ng==:117 Received: from [74.75.158.23] ([74.75.158.23:4063] helo=UPSTAIRSOFFICE) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 16/43-05345-6D3DBC05; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:35:18 +0000 From: "Tim Hutchisen" To: , References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:01:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OK Henry, Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The TR7 spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, so why not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's of the Triumph world. No respect! Tim Hutchisen Norway, ME ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: [Fot] Wedges > As a Wedge owner, I appreciate what Triumph accomplished with the TR7/8. > Before you guys move to have me tossed outta here, get behind the wheel of > a well sorted wedge. They drive wonderful. > > One of my pipe dreams to see at vintage races is a spec TR7 class. I > envision good, close racing and best of all, behind a Triumph badge. We > spec decent, cheap tires from Tire Rack. We figure out a good > spring/strut/swaybay package. We run pump gas, so engine mods are kept to > a minimum, if any. > > You need to find a clapped out TR7, 5 minutes on Craigslist shows me 4 > cars that are good candidates within 100 miles of me. Install a fuel cell > and a cage, and go visit your local Maaco for a scratch and spray paint > job. Then do up the suspension per the spec, install your racing seat and > harness, and you are ready to go. If you leave the wiring in place, you > could even drive the thing to the track! > > How cool would that be? > > Who's in??? > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More > >> Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our future in >> vintage racing...time marches on. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 18:55:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEC142468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:55:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047644054B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:54:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bakN1k0011wfjNsA2dtGle; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:53:16 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bdtE1k00g2vctGa8jdtFNq; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:53:15 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Tim Hutchisen" , , References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com><3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:53:13 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1355536396; bh=Z+ILrNkqOOKq0azrpX+d6HScTFQJArCYz5wNbATOxu4=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oFE6d5DMJq97kwNr4JOXCmJyHGiFoRD6xt2CRQaeX1w8p+u+d02jf599KTD77PCFE hoy6KuyRa2K279TiLi2UiLO9lFWfoStHnGxTVZGEv54T0PH3o6ajCJUBQ05ptm91ri 4QXoYvscmHbM2dgzzyKyP87CaxSl7Ml+6uKSwhzkSViSisosfpb0wFvOZHw9w2cbvU 5YmBnm1Yd/UhUsfMDp4qRfLsR9FPqZ2k4m4mk9Jt+xi1wHampJ4YyG7PpZDM45sz1R /TTNsMKYUz0UqQDpyryKnCAB82hO4J+KZU9IuJq33Fgv+wqAxXXGq3bOV0w8HE7Kah nou/wSsTreSyg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Remember Gang...supply and demand...Bugeye Sprites were crushed because they were not worth 150.00...Alfa Guiliettas too...and...v-12 Ferraris...No one wanted an old Ferrari because they were too expensive to fix or maintain..in 1987 a 250 GTE was selling for 2 thousand bucks..In 1990 they were 100,000.00...and look at what's happening with the semi-muscle cars now..! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Hutchisen" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > OK Henry, > Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The TR7 > spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, so why > not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's of the > Triumph world. No respect! > Tim Hutchisen > Norway, ME > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 8:13 AM > Subject: [Fot] Wedges > > >> As a Wedge owner, I appreciate what Triumph accomplished with the TR7/8. >> Before you guys move to have me tossed outta here, get behind the wheel >> of a well sorted wedge. They drive wonderful. >> >> One of my pipe dreams to see at vintage races is a spec TR7 class. I >> envision good, close racing and best of all, behind a Triumph badge. We >> spec decent, cheap tires from Tire Rack. We figure out a good >> spring/strut/swaybay package. We run pump gas, so engine mods are kept to >> a minimum, if any. >> >> You need to find a clapped out TR7, 5 minutes on Craigslist shows me 4 >> cars that are good candidates within 100 miles of me. Install a fuel cell >> and a cage, and go visit your local Maaco for a scratch and spray paint >> job. Then do up the suspension per the spec, install your racing seat and >> harness, and you are ready to go. If you leave the wiring in place, you >> could even drive the thing to the track! >> >> How cool would that be? >> >> Who's in??? >> >> Henry >> yellow04@tr4racer.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More >> >>> Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our future in >>> vintage racing...time marches on. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 14 20:48:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0CD42461 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:48:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from spamkiller.fastbytes.com (mail2.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 967DB4053B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:48:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from 216.183.230.152 (AVG SMTP 9.0.930 [2634.1.1/5459]); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:47:00 -0600 Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134] by spamkiller.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A2A312016E; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:46:43 -0600 Received: from TimDellVostro [216.183.226.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A2921772014C; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:46:26 -0600 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , References: <8CFA5D1E598E030-A94-91B1@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> <54FB2161-8FA1-4FC8-A84D-6EF6ECB42193@me.com> <1990299364-1355244053-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1196878571-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> <8CFA5D7A87D09C2-A94-9777@webmail-d193.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:46:21 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3XwO37GhZs26UwRDGQsDH+Naf4aACtbctA Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, if you need help setting up or with the paddock the day before, let me know. I'm usually available. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:57 AM To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KCUP 2013 PLANNING THE OSTHOF and ENTRY PLANS What Jason said.....exactly. Except the showers are almost first class KOHLER. ALSO, the more information we have on entries and attendees, the easier it will be to ask for PADDOCK SPACE to contain us all. I am particularly interested in the layout of the paddock as that is where we spend most of our time. Jason, I plan to go in a day early to garner space in the paddock. Want to help? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 15 06:18:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF4B4226A for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 06:18:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3ECF4055B for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 06:17:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm30.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Dec 2012 13:15:58 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.107] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Dec 2012 13:15:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Dec 2012 13:15:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355577358; bh=/eTp5fDlNLsRyRcWSWs3IPf5N6Wn1dLrxRfKix4yXJk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=TSJHbKako/e8pTz0P8/cVeBIsu7m4BxOFhwxoxUrxAcsics+3mZIldq5oDEtrZbDcIRFeBa5k1OPkGMoZu4UYZnOLkFrrH1kaSf9JvOAHpO7+IEBJaEfDT770mjsa046Wp/h2KgXlYP3ErTq8IJQX1/uBAjfLNDCqEeIWL3N+Co= s_YqJ0gR.Q.SARPxEuG.8z5p161qnRcT__0EJs4SRHV1WaIuALrpLGeSuOn. QfUesk7E7tN4PrkdhCwdWJcUYYoDCkXuzonBn8SfGLtIcHQgvQPhSeZwDMCj 6ryeoZyNmnTo9Z1K9NcJ0XaMdzV9kzLv68jXENmig22rdH8GkVFZWU8PoJJM EI4VeQji1acYQraHxWVHPMoj0eT5JAUnJNWMsvsRKvXJFGdnSK.R63hJITPF .u.LVnMh7ZyUvR7sqrCA8bIPmzgJHoqLkbV2RsP83ajVmg4F8p08c1DS7sBn enQRS6ERs5JwWmhRk5v6qUCXqrnS5l3Dn.sZzRoZv3IiVUbiMy5DM0ZykQpD kO2OU6rdnLhNYgJIrhpQFkAh.TlH9PWZQY9Cz7g7ZPnmNzpDpgnv7wFWIG7K xPkyI6hHPkinDczTI.PTtlCieyyIvX5XHcDkG9F7mIlq9DsKNKTD0jg10yT4 zJr.CFJGVP8qvvozQdT4waq.p8PV77d6TrJe2 Received: from dmitchelPC (dmitchel@68.79.92.15 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2012 05:15:58 -0800 PST From: "Doug Mitchell" To: , , References: <1fd34.419073f.3df9f76a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:16:07 -0500 Thread-Index: AQNTbPUQ/U3OXVDr9AKIRdlqQJBD95UOsdgg Content-Language: en-us Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If anyone is interested, I have a photo of the Buick engine on a stand taken at the GM Heritage Center in Sterling Heights, Michigan. I sort of keep looking for a TR8 as there is a family connection to the engine. I need to get rid of the Stag before I can even think about bringing home another car. There is one near me for sale, but I just don't have the space for one at this time. Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel@sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:06 AM To: vangoughv@hotmail.com; my71spit13@yahoo.com Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction In a message dated 12/12/2012 8:46:14 AM Central Standard Time, vangoughv@hotmail.com writes: > Could it be a "street able track day car"? > You'd get more seat time and pleasure for your money and leave a door open > to > further convert to full race later. It would make an excellent race car > for sure. > More than a few people think that aluminum engine is one of the best engines ever built. We had one in a Buick mid-sized convertible, and it was a great little car. Pound for pound...it sure had a lot of power. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 15 12:45:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40514245E for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:45:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm17-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3942E40558 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:45:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.96] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Dec 2012 19:44:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.212] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Dec 2012 19:44:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Dec 2012 19:44:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355600674; bh=XWgAr8KMpmZfVc6LIW0EhXLltBsDGoQJ5B8YI7D5BO4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=bm9rxJb8nx+mD+KJqYZ8EVHKSCl4EwK3wcjZeaU8QL2QYW/FFqT9j9ocoxFfllSc1YyxpbC/5xJ52XH2GULsJ0rF4gMfs78U0erYVHHkDsujhkCNOELJjsGazAOAgnlxRsa8Xn/02E/iGXLzTa1pDVX6ChtyEZtbFHVdQQ/Qnk4= ep7nlf33EDyo1coCFP_8_QLJoRBsIG7mBSf.1VDHgXH9TENLFBpYS5qxQziF ZwQE0vte1_yyA3HmhTc9MiCtywEN9mW5xYsnu4M0SDij0e671nb31QjpXMF8 ELM1ahaCpAgb1cIaT_lh7KG4sgA3mOXCZmgBAb7yNqXL2mPMxcLWejqIYQdg tznGgvoLclkBhnVID._Prb131JRaX6gcjh73yZKgsHzrIYAFeAyJEWrHE4J0 eF1uYcOTzNsS._hl415UB5jOtmn3h8fyUM.6aSZYSGsQQ97w7w.bD8pfPe_e hBT5QkXgdTlX0YeBCYO9ev9Lh_ISstHPhgTc63cRrvEwQxxaL_kfG7isFOJ. aOI2ygvYvONSr4kumTZk00Lflec8jwLi5_.kOm0PGRUFgB9ZD_PTZ_2qB0zl WGWlgfsjDEX.9xsUOt7JsOkWn3mAhdA-- Received: from dmitchelPC (dmitchel@68.79.92.15 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2012 11:44:34 -0800 PST From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:44:42 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3a/AiKb0kfD+2ASmmtaU/XY0izww== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Devin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think that there were a couple of Devin owners on this list, if so, I have a friend that recently purchased a '59 Devin D Roadster. It was built by Devin, and has a Porsche motor. He has some questions about parts and would like to get in touch with anyone who can help him. Thanks, Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 15 14:15:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7AA42482 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:15:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831374056C for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:15:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bx8W1k0040vp7WLADxEHRW; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:14:17 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bxEG1k00Q2vctGa8RxEGej; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:14:17 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Doug Mitchell" , References: <000c01cddafc$a1980240$e4c806c0$@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:14:15 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1355606057; bh=WPCKcR6/KFt5YtYVLMkC4//pukAFHuX0B6f5pUsjCI4=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fxjfWOQtP2tFomzNpuY3JkErBvACO/GBq8tSJei/7J5hnYCNRAGRbabWWC+yVroiV OPX24qXP8Yt2i75wJKr0YG9leULR9GIKWxfgH91oav75N0IaZPtKt+vmxddAkZjAGS mQIf1ppt9QlL3dTto5w1P1zStV0hyfNV1p0D+xWI2HjL1wUvSbGcl9TN/de1ndu+jH hZ/MLfu08wn8Yh2mhgMcLF/tpgXw7DNpXTI+DiEKoEF1/nMuKPkf7Um7WPdmylpiS2 uurgqPHtyKuriXucPOANjiRLne/jwv71kQBKYA0Hpe5J2hSggTiQRmMn7zYd9nD5sx d6qONLt6JplMA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Devin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark Balestra in San Jopse, Ca. might be able to help you out..he has a Devin SS mark@pearsonauto.com Tell him Racer Bud sent you. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:44 AM Subject: [Fot] Devin >I think that there were a couple of Devin owners on this list, if so, I >have > a friend > that recently purchased a '59 Devin D Roadster. It was built by Devin, and > has a > Porsche motor. He has some questions about parts and would like to get in > touch > with anyone who can help him. > > Thanks, > > Doug > > -- > Doug Mitchell > dmitchel@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 15 14:21:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7DC4248B for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:21:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BCD40554 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:19:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bryo1k0061eYJf8A1xJSEA; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:18:26 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bxJR1k00M2vctGa01xJRan; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:18:26 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Doug Mitchell" , References: <000c01cddafc$a1980240$e4c806c0$@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:18:24 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1355606306; bh=BpuGC/0Rqir8k4KSJXNRPpnj+YrZXoAkJGkzJyfZB0U=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VbnZbIOtWpq3tApc6a15UhNcFioXDkCL2sKKAtPb97b+WgPjkcXHwv3IqS/qLpJ2M Ak8f5S2Qat+8efl4Zp8MqikQsbooA6WOBLIogtH0IsxsLQLlkHop5pz/Ks3tgn5ygo /sUq4rYAbPFYzAAqggoqsXB4k0NMCEZdT7EbIijcmv7pA6x9fbICL+3n+3JCdBFhys 8hlYAa39ig+ZMKaMC4YaDr+deXjXHVl+aIm08LRASOfC8ayOOou0u6L6yPM67m5O5/ J3poN0xzi72nlpSkdTxa/bStxq3hfh9T6G+ISrqSIxzigTKKEmBS249K7rg8BszpQb gIW/xvG5IR5BA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Devin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Also Bill Hart has a Devin TR.. contact Tony Garmey at horizonracing@msn.com RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" To: Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:44 AM Subject: [Fot] Devin >I think that there were a couple of Devin owners on this list, if so, I >have > a friend > that recently purchased a '59 Devin D Roadster. It was built by Devin, and > has a > Porsche motor. He has some questions about parts and would like to get in > touch > with anyone who can help him. > > Thanks, > > Doug > > -- > Doug Mitchell > dmitchel@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 15 19:02:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D954249A for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:02:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D921240417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:01:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20121212230032.DABD10448.mta21.charter.net@imp09>; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:00:32 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.6] ([68.112.108.51]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id an0Y1k00216aBHQ05n0Yaf; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:00:32 -0500 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=QFTu94XW4BcA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=NGcG3HklhfQ0LB1AufYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=3DKAsMPFhDgZshA7:21 a=wcVaimqD3qgc6_4g:21 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:117 From: Jerry Barr Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:00:31 -0600 References: <1355318605.49674.androidMobile@web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <355406436.1406566.1355349409223.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E7FC1D6@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> To: "Barr, Scott" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You know the Miata is a better car and much easier to make it go fast. If I didn't have so many projects I would buy the TR8 to save you from making a huge mistake. On Dec 12, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Barr, Scott wrote: > How did this list get taken over by such soulless, fun-sucking pragmatists??? > ;-) > > My vote - Get it running and drive it for a while before you spend any money > on it. Then fall in love with it and invest thousands of dollars and weekend > hours and either drive it on the street or turn it into a silly, impractical, > expensive race car. Just like the rest of us. > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of fogbro1@comcast.net > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:57 PM > To: Shawn Frank > Cc: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 direction > > Give the owner $2000 and walk away from the car. You will save thousands of > dollars and many hundred of hours of your life in the long run. > > > > Ed Woods (with credit to my brother Harvey for figuring this out years ago; > although I have rarely heeded this advice.) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Shawn Frank" > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23:25 AM > Subject: [Fot] TR8 direction > > We have a TR8 sitting in front of us. Input on what you think we should do > with it? It is in good shape, no rust, decent paint, soft top, doesn't start > and has been garaged for more than 5 years. What should we do with it??? > HELP! B Shawn > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fogbro1@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 15 19:03:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA28E424BD for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:03:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3182403ED for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:27:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qBEFPwAR005822; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:26:02 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'Robert Deanes'" , References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com><3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local><8CFA81FB58C695A-878-A28B@Webmail-d119.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:25:58 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3aDf7tXGzp+i4/R0KZ3NNUdxog0AAAUEiw a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=879b_Iw0AAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=MXyZhnB4DfKGMXD3SKUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=1QNhSFbQkrsA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=1cE7I5tD0vVGMalV:21 a=r9Gl00SsvCaQ_YMs:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Come on Robert, 3 race cars? John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Deanes Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:16 AM To: kkjjk@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Henry , I'm in as I have two coupes, have thought many times over and over wheather to develope one into a racer, and many camp fires with the "getto" crowd on just what you are talking about, are we sticking with the 7 engine , lets get it rolling or more planning, On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:37 AM, wrote: > Sorry to enter this discussion after seeing only a few > comments............TR7/8s are "Like nobody else's > car".............They are truly very cool...........I have a racing > GT6 that I have never had out on the track. I live in Maryland. Is > there anyone whom can give me some guidance on how I can get it on the > track somewhere around here (Summit Point, etc)? I only have one seat > in it and I have been told that I need to have an instructor in the > car with me before they will let me out on my own. Is this true? I > would rather not have to put another seat in it. Any help would be > great! Thanks- Jay De Pol > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles WATSON > To: yellow04 ; FOT List > Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 8:23 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > > > Interesting idea. Better looking than Miatas for sure. Cheap too! > But only one within 500 miles of me in SC on EBay or CL. > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers > Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > > > > > > > > > > > From: yellow04@tr4racer.com > > To: FOT@autox.team.net > > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:13:18 -0500 > > Subject: [Fot] Wedges > > > > As a Wedge owner, I appreciate what Triumph accomplished with the TR7/8. > > Before you guys move to have me tossed outta here, get behind the > > wheel > of > a > > well sorted wedge. They drive wonderful. > > > > One of my pipe dreams to see at vintage races is a spec TR7 class. I > > envision good, close racing and best of all, behind a Triumph badge. > > We > spec > > decent, cheap tires from Tire Rack. We figure out a good > > spring/strut/swaybay package. We run pump gas, so engine mods are > > kept > to a > > minimum, if any. > > > > You need to find a clapped out TR7, 5 minutes on Craigslist shows me > > 4 > cars > > that are good candidates within 100 miles of me. Install a fuel cell > > and > a > > cage, and go visit your local Maaco for a scratch and spray paint job. > Then > > do up the suspension per the spec, install your racing seat and > > harness, > and > > you are ready to go. If you leave the wiring in place, you could > > even > drive > > the thing to the track! > > > > How cool would that be? > > > > Who's in??? > > > > Henry > > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > Subject: [Fot] Forums Wedges and More > > > > > Good to have this discussion on wedges...they may become our > > > future in vintage racing...time marches on. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 15 19:46:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBB0424AB for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:46:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180964069D for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:46:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5A2A11C000098 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-deb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-deb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.141]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 22270E000081 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:45:20 -0500 (EST) References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.44) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:45:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:45:20 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355625920; bh=pPa0R3NiJFTjC7J42iGK9UMze5JVMY5dHTL1soVToaE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FPnnFaYSLs7sJ8xmxLdyQTfPUp+4CeyufMvwwnSfl58zAxSyp86OCDg5GY2hVyj+G MdqJWLv+c1VSP6YAZ3MVeJQrJ4b10GSvILVML4b91uQ9i7Xw1aNFXtpshWmm7xI9Zd L7AzDKoO/7hb7a5aOW2sOeC+BJjq0MyluSdFN27E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c50cd35c0379a Subject: Re: [Fot] Another Sunday ride in Khartu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, Brilliant run ! But, today the last of sunny days for awhile ( winter storms on their way ) here in New England I couldn't resist the notion to fire up the race car take it for a spin around the neighborhood. F1 season is over and race season has been over for awhile here in Massachusetts, sept for some Rally crossing. Driving around the neighborhood brought back memories of the past season, as breif as it may of been for me and my Spit. My wish is for one more chance to drive my car around the block before the SALT and snow. Hopefully the coming storms will just drop rain on us. May all your days be sunny, Bob T '64 Spit GT -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: triumphs Sent: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 9:02 pm Subject: [Fot] Another Sunday ride in Khartu Hi, I'm posting this just to keep the juices going on the off-season. http://youtu.be/IECKMspI180 It's an in-car autocross video from a New England Region autocross at evens, MA. Enjoy! ml -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent ormer NER Solo Chair | oice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 02:24:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE2F40538 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:24:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (yoda.london.02.net [82.132.130.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C0840522 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:22:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.226.161.221] (82.132.229.81) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 50B640DB03E3CA19; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:21:26 +0000 References: <000c01cddafc$a1980240$e4c806c0$@sbcglobal.net> <5DD2D227C3E54042BA63D69D2435D068@Bud> From: TR4 Tony Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:21:14 +0000 To: RACER BUD Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Devin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have just bought a Devin E body for a TR4 and plan to put together a little plastic bodied car .... Similarly any advice about how to attach it to the frame would be most welcome! Sent from my iPhone On 15 Dec 2012, at 21:18, "RACER BUD" wrote: > Also Bill Hart has a Devin TR.. contact Tony Garmey at horizonracing@msn.com > RB > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:44 AM > Subject: [Fot] Devin > > >> I think that there were a couple of Devin owners on this list, if so, I have >> a friend >> that recently purchased a '59 Devin D Roadster. It was built by Devin, and >> has a >> Porsche motor. He has some questions about parts and would like to get in >> touch >> with anyone who can help him. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Doug >> >> -- >> Doug Mitchell >> dmitchel@sbcglobal.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 04:59:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B554064C for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:59:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DBC4053A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:59:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D306A4C091 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IIGnF4zCK1fc for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 05865A4C087 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:58:06 -0500 (EST) From: To: References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:58:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Rodney Dangerfields of the Triumph world for sure... We have had an underwhelming response to the TR7 Spec class. I envision all the fun of a Spec Miata, but with a much better chance of coming home with all your paint. Affordable buy-in, cheap tires, pump gas, close racing, and you are doing it in a Triumph! I am thinking it would take somewhere around $5000 to maybe $7500 to buy and build the car. We get a handful of guys to do it, show off some good, close racing, and we promote the heck out of it. Sounds like a great way to get some more people on track.. Oh well... Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Hutchisen" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > OK Henry, > Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The TR7 > spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, so why > not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's of the > Triumph world. No respect! > Tim Hutchisen _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 06:21:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D007C40571 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:21:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9EF4040E for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:21:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 13:19:46 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.98] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 13:19:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 13:19:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 508 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Dec 2012 13:19:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355750386; bh=4t5PtqJuNY7nzSSWPqFXjvwzNSr0i8bM7iwO8kfQLmE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BRmtOkOnsfXS1Qb/HTJ69fp5HCGxMiMMTbq8h0GkrZv/W3gsPC5orLfo1iIpkP5nxsmhKmM9C4qyHoWCFNFFUC6masiKOGF1EfgXuRRfaoWjpqpF93+UkQLklsR95DLKjaC5+JMch/K3cZ4eR4ga/afyjLCw2Pgmy+doTM1xC9Q= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UwNFAcvDi+gHeMzZWMZ46KhOY/Z1xM3g94Nj2G4K5dMUvyPir5DStb5xY8jxexcppg5umIXE5DNpDi5zd+Asqiey9gi8ot65h7p52tyCSsfODASjAiRD3G4zfu9Z/iLtrdd78hVMdwfFnEJLnHTamfO5ND2p+t6TByP6z+6JKw0=; 1tJ4uUOr4QxyL0w2yK_h0s0ZLOgGEAV9pvZCmLOFNDdA2qAVkhI4GyrQv9sq m4Tga4n3e14teJuFZSYaFBV7UncPpHagWvlYY3CVM8hxZvhu5ijLxmg8khXS fhVIbt0OYi.m_7_Kt7oUp0UbocUJn_iEKY0q6OPxQO2uLcKasXiACwKpVVjd f42adq78Sy3n40SJeKWnjXIPLsXZgBljXwY_1n5HzB82HeGNpTyfPaB9tV55 rxnjxTnaF.qGF8heZJCuoLYoGWfPWcpxzF6bt33.n2RkDLrG87YR_.b51eWi i80_LbzfKq5fMLE1ZM81R54qrMN.oe07jnrDlJ5xateIzSeW603auRyjasb8 5s.SxpoyxUN6Gh3MWP240BXB7gPQ9Q9GnE2jvYHwhgiGs.9JGKp10uZbkHqk Z.jiwH_mN5_1M_QjPjhhTTLsMXSCxmu1PRv3vtpDjKtWpEOrz4kxY.h0ifq5 qDUekeF6MIO2vmK7Ohs1KssnI4q96WHSIDdlSkStQek3JMARcQyY8fqPdlA3 Eg8BU9KM_E8Pb1d7Wj4W3HL_xt4IPbY0_niInkiNmdJLR5B9U4_ejI2O4ER. PC.h3jWnb2jG.7XhKEfwHGjtYH7arlAFP2og5OfYc3qe278e1n_.i4rL2p9f cuauVixabEUxt2IVWqDVGt.vzVdgbxGsxbdiym9wGDPKzsmK7SB6IMFD4wmm JnpumhCdDY6WzTKk- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 05:19:46 PST DQpIZW5yeTogSXQgc291bmRzIGxpaWtlIHlvdSBjb3VsZCBjaGVhcGx5IHB1dCBhIHRlYW0gdG9nZXRoZXIgd2l0aCB3aGF0IHlvdSBoYXZlIHNpdHRpbmcgYXJvdW5kLg0KQnV0LCBkaWQgeW91IG5vdGljZSB0aGF0IHdpdGhpbiBmaXZlIHBvc3RpbmdzIHRoZSAic3BlYyIgY2xhc3Mgd2FzIG1vcnBoaW5nIGludG8gYSBWNiBmcm9tIEpvaG4ncyBDYXIncz8gU2ltcGxlIHJ1bGVzLi4uU3BlYyBDbGFzcyHCoE1pbmltYWwgcnVsZXMgbGlrZSBGT1QuIE9yaWdpbmFsIHR5cGUgZW5naW5lOyBJbnRha2UgJsKgZXgBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 05:19:46 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: yellow04@tr4racer.com Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Henry: It sounds liike you could cheaply put a team together with what you have sitting around. But, did you notice that within five postings the "spec" class was morphing into a V6 from John's Car's? Simple rules...Spec Class! Minimal rules like FOT. Original type engine; Intake & exhaust free; 4 or 5 speed okay; DOT tires; DHC or FHC. Period. Would be fun! -Ed- --- On Mon, 12/17/12, yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: From: yellow04@tr4racer.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges To: FOT@autox.team.net Date: Monday, December 17, 2012, 5:58 AM The Rodney Dangerfields of the Triumph world for sure... We have had an underwhelming response to the TR7 Spec class. I envision all the fun of a Spec Miata, but with a much better chance of coming home with all your paint. Affordable buy-in, cheap tires, pump gas, close racing, and you are doing it in a Triumph! I am thinking it would take somewhere around $5000 to maybe $7500 to buy and build the car. We get a handful of guys to do it, show off some good, close racing, and we promote the heck out of it. Sounds like a great way to get some more people on track.. Oh well... Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Hutchisen" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > OK Henry, > Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The TR7 > spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, so why > not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's of the > Triumph world. No respect! > Tim Hutchisen _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 07:58:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276AC406AD for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:58:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA7E40655 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:57:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c14so9849682ieb.14 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:56:27 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=WiASXKtlxC18SOTrtoe09/CEIIocPy4HTpu9/1jdaLc=; b=RuiTXXFlVmYyh8eawsZgEK1xCJfFZWWIM+UzjRzy9LLbzDK67EgxY5lVTRWL/juQiw WybgVy/JUObKHHoj3n3nbGJfyzKgHJbR1ZJ9awf/ig5dXaa4bdeourWSDbg4h0IFD8kO x+6IN9zEQqOhjhZQhF1u03DqCMJgjsAIa3GTHdEJlC3wntUmpIBMuqIJ9XFwJOS21oU2 Qe1obLAZtKeKPo4Vjxd72jD2Sbf5S4slXmZqFk235H8Y/AOe5SHx3SlEDU0MTd2n2QHm 5s3p0i/NBSogteatCKKXh5cpcexZuWQJvHlJ9uN2Ly/G+GkDKL5ea2Hnm3laHkW5YqTr jJtA== Received: by 10.42.158.65 with SMTP id g1mr11293569icx.29.1355756187452; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.11.227 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:55:47 -0800 (PST) References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <57D8FE860BA84F5794D0A3F7803A084D@TRIUMPH.local> From: Don Marshall Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:55:47 -0500 To: yellow04@tr4racer.com Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Easy peasy... check the SCCA GCR and under Improved Touring. The TR7 is still listed and under IT rules it's restricted to minimal changes from stock. Search "TR7 race cars for sale" and there's usually several old TR7 IT cars already race prepared, with cages and other safety equipment, and lots cheaper than you can build one from scratch. I know that some of the vintage groups, including SVRA and VDCA, are starting to accept old IT cars and the TR7 would have no problem being admitted as long as its prepped to the IT rules (no flares, fiberglass, etc.) and has treaded tires. Don On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:58 AM, wrote: > The Rodney Dangerfields of the Triumph world for sure... We have had an > underwhelming response to the TR7 Spec class. > > I envision all the fun of a Spec Miata, but with a much better chance of > coming home with all your paint. Affordable buy-in, cheap tires, pump gas, > close racing, and you are doing it in a Triumph! I am thinking it would > take > somewhere around $5000 to maybe $7500 to buy and build the car. We get a > handful of guys to do it, show off some good, close racing, and we promote > the heck out of it. Sounds like a great way to get some more people on > track.. > > Oh well... > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Hutchisen" > To: ; > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > > > > OK Henry, > > Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The TR7 > > spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, so why > > not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's of the > > Triumph world. No respect! > > Tim Hutchisen > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/donmarshall@nefcom.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 08:49:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B17940699 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:49:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BD240439 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:49:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.147] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 15:48:25 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.103] by tm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 15:48:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 15:48:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 30709 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Dec 2012 15:48:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355759304; bh=RRRCRmp6zLDVcgjVVdQCBq58+HNhojOp8IJECT9lDHA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BwmW5/oD0p/5ewwxLpuV4bsOi1YdHfW7ErGDgdvjhKER8W7UUL0qzN1Yhp2gM7FP+aVy8za1lx7QdmvWWPuoWaNAcsttlCK17r6ZJYg8U48W3/xdsx778fexm9Y8uBbqKvQYIW9MF6LCHWEEPrUypUKIxfxyVZSTR9gRnlJmTgw= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GNLEuCY6mxbdtR6IbVkQHbjMFg8pAcfZkzm5kbfkWLm4JXVHsjXC2ogHUptf/2uHMx4mLDSRMjgLibR/uc1PZ+X3TKqn4edYKk9TqgdXevSAIG+yLg1jg5yziAI9WGnxDCqLAMuyMWl1GMJVH46GazIkc1QQpkXd/AFooKnBMK8=; bwdwhYG1z3uFN3GSGBbTHMKyOxCaiERMfE4Xrs7uAbFra3gmo74QrwRmN6qT vCuQfeYPh5eKK2Obzrt1TWQdBV3Ga78VLrn0R5WGNJ5bf43aQSR04iIUGrr6 5OvQMEPBQ7KY1D7fTKmfF76y8SCRtZlrbduS3nR33AG7CsEZVGaG38.5ZCOm 5LViVQpcwmvJDAIwqwlbJ9bXhL0WRGZzM4HyfedcdkFAXmqYG3D16OsLO.m5 rEGcDGhrchoi0VxsPfIL_qt6jQGNcvEIxIWe1tUOsVdAmJndR4QUDxTlcV7e HVHy1mRX5MOw_8rKkOHyNiCEq44UMbVV0ZkJuRGmITuwNbuwV7SPzmSSi63c yIlZCE3Gnhmot8oYFjT3UQInAiFjD5B3k0WQCeegNNS6Se1xVho7BNO418Zu unJCStKXWluLh44jsqMl6Kc5HmsTcOAWCtoxAcxBB35TcUrkdt_Ejp9mxXi7 .nObrKFzpL.AfwJSlMBVq3kLrApcFSgsedbXYtIKvgEHK.g-- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:48:24 PST SGVucnkuLi4gSSdtIGluLi4uIGhlY2sgd2hhdCBkbyBJIGNhcmUgMyBUcml1bXBocyAsIHR3byB3aGljaCBhIHJhY2UgY2FycyAobm90IApydW5uaW5nIHByZXNlbnRseSkgLi4uIHdoeSBub3QgYW5vdGhlciBUcml1bXBoLi4uIEknbSB3aXRoIHlvdSwgZnVuIGFuZCAKY2hlYXAuLi4uCgppbiB0aGUgd29yZHMgb2YgYSB3aXNlIG9sZCBUcml1bXBoIGd1eSAoTGFycnkpIC4uLiAnd2hhdCdzIHRoZSBkaWZmZXJlbmNlIApiZXR3ZWVuIGEgVFI3IGFuZCBhbiBvbmlvbj8gLi4uIG5vIG9uZSBjcmllcyB3aGVuIHkBMAEBAQE- References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <57D8FE860BA84F5794D0A3F7803A084D@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:48:24 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: yellow04@tr4racer.com Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Henry... I'm in... heck what do I care 3 Triumphs , two which a race cars (not running presently) ... why not another Triumph... I'm with you, fun and cheap.... in the words of a wise old Triumph guy (Larry) ... 'what's the difference between a TR7 and an onion? ... no one cries when you cut up a TR7..." Bobby ________________________________ From: "yellow04@tr4racer.com" To: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, December 17, 2012 5:58:26 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges The Rodney Dangerfields of the Triumph world for sure... We have had an underwhelming response to the TR7 Spec class. I envision all the fun of a Spec Miata, but with a much better chance of coming home with all your paint. Affordable buy-in, cheap tires, pump gas, close racing, and you are doing it in a Triumph! I am thinking it would take somewhere around $5000 to maybe $7500 to buy and build the car. We get a handful of guys to do it, show off some good, close racing, and we promote the heck out of it. Sounds like a great way to get some more people on track.. Oh well... Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Hutchisen" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > OK Henry, > Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The TR7 > spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, so why > not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's of the > Triumph world. No respect! > Tim Hutchisen _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 09:08:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846374064D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:08:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0351E40428 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:08:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A10A4C091; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D9xNzAmn0EwR; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:06:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 293CDA4C087; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:06:55 -0500 (EST) From: To: "Don Marshall" References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <57D8FE860BA84F5794D0A3F7803A084D@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:06:55 -0500 Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Typically, Don, I would agree with you. But with the price of rust free coupes around here, and I think I am being generous saying the cost to have a cage and fuel cell installed would be $2000, I don't know why you would not start with a fresh car. However, given what I imagine the value of a TR7 IT car these days, you are probably right! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Marshall To: yellow04@tr4racer.com Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Easy peasy... check the SCCA GCR and under Improved Touring. The TR7 is still listed and under IT rules it's restricted to minimal changes from stock. Search "TR7 race cars for sale" and there's usually several old TR7 IT cars already race prepared, with cages and other safety equipment, and lots cheaper than you can build one from scratch. I know that some of the vintage groups, including SVRA and VDCA, are starting to accept old IT cars and the TR7 would have no problem being admitted as long as its prepped to the IT rules (no flares, fiberglass, etc.) and has treaded tires. Don On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:58 AM, wrote: The Rodney Dangerfields of the Triumph world for sure... We have had an underwhelming response to the TR7 Spec class. I envision all the fun of a Spec Miata, but with a much better chance of coming home with all your paint. Affordable buy-in, cheap tires, pump gas, close racing, and you are doing it in a Triumph! I am thinking it would take somewhere around $5000 to maybe $7500 to buy and build the car. We get a handful of guys to do it, show off some good, close racing, and we promote the heck out of it. Sounds like a great way to get some more people on track.. Oh well... Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Hutchisen" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > OK Henry, > Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The TR7 > spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, so why > not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's of the > Triumph world. No respect! > Tim Hutchisen _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 10:56:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C7040692 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:56:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dunnwalshholdings.com (dunnwalshholdings.com [70.166.11.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CEE40407 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:56:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa%13]) with mapi; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:53:00 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: "yellow04@tr4racer.com" , "FOT@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:55:10 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Wedges Thread-Index: Ac3cTX8CkDQHB/fuSx2QS10sGHiJdgAMO7ZA References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <57D8FE860BA84F5794D0A3F7803A084D@TRIUMPH.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net One of the issues is that the TR7 was never really too popular as a new car. Not many folks sit back and say, "Gee, I would really like to have a nice TR7". Sure some do, but Miata's were and still are extremely popular as regular drivers. The other issue is where would you run this spec class? I might consider it if you run the series in California. Laguna Seca, Sears Point, Willow Springs, Buttonwillow, etc. I think most folks would rather build a Spitfire for an entry level race car. Nice idea, but I think it would hard to get enough racers (or potential racers)involved. Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04@tr4racer.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:58 AM To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges The Rodney Dangerfields of the Triumph world for sure... We have had an underwhelming response to the TR7 Spec class. I envision all the fun of a Spec Miata, but with a much better chance of coming home with all your paint. Affordable buy-in, cheap tires, pump gas, close racing, and you are doing it in a Triumph! I am thinking it would take somewhere around $5000 to maybe $7500 to buy and build the car. We get a handful of guys to do it, show off some good, close racing, and we promote the heck out of it. Sounds like a great way to get some more people on track.. Oh well... Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Hutchisen" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > OK Henry, > Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The > TR7 spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, > so why not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's > of the Triumph world. No respect! > Tim Hutchisen _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 11:20:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A29406B6 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:20:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378CF40421 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:20:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.100] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 18:18:54 -0000 Received: from [67.195.15.63] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 18:18:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 18:18:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355768334; bh=DnLhaX34bnG0ghfHXN+zHK12CcjF6jUMhvE8d803zSw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=oEPH/4AJKOspxuVfyBzFM3Pfwli6IZtNgIVBguZLx1jdcauAh4Re/FqGIly+yfrEzFoYMCLjyLFctB1ZFGKwbiw20QKcpCrn5AWJ+sgVsm0JkFPSlYtzxWji4tegmd0Ugkd/TB9S/Ej71DzmYFKfibYXpfaFmdnmO9A+Jp5rZxI= FH6m2F6hFATJDZ1bqOxDdVcPDeEXw9G0FfqGdHldtwbvwpMXiC.oXHfiBOV4 lN2DuGdfScUbmZCTrU43lmgsVmEz7cqglYtNmQhNLS2OQk56yXB3dk06MF66 bDQStEICdGvr2M49Iue9DbK9c4NwNkFgi59CCn2UIrKP1lpE7QQS5qMgUlbo 3_eLJhIC0BFlfDDTlKLbstrLBAaz7vnbzC8lMCiOEJjA.W0uZ7nrS_rjc2EK aWoJ4NcnW6H0uC3TJO9OT2AYUmdWD4NRz0y_f4ToLlDQ0Gy9UU8MFJZ2RoZN SaA9UMBBiX.icPRP7igTGX20t1U6ylt2FOPEhgVX8yUSbFeMp0rUvOheHxAk OafXL8FnYoB2HNbauekhEXXj84DkFLPSv8bH9.yRWhqIW24Y9Etkk0aYhI.x m3i_KaX_vPjIfnaPhY39ca8.sxChFgB5ad2AB2HLCWKBx0MRN3QE3D5CU1Xk lYdY5Vqpjcd7gQsvBBwvYR8X7NrVON_mr5CIe2yxVxlzf7w-- Received: from [192.168.1.145] (apackard68@99.186.247.80 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2012 10:18:53 -0800 PST From: Andrew Packard Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:18:52 -0800 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR4 Lemons team race seat needs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to Joe et al for bringing my race team into this group. Three Triumph Travelers in the Bay Area of CA are putting together a TR4 Lemons racer. You can learn a bit about our team and one picture of our car in the "Which Car" section of my "Lemons to Lemons" blog here. Currently we are dealing with some floor pan rust issues with one repair to go prior to getting the 6-point cage installed. My first question to the list is regarding a recommended racing seat brand and model that fits well in a TR4 through 6. We want to get the seat prior to our roll cage design to ensure enough head clearance for our tallest driver. If someone has a "retired" seat they would like to move to a new home, we're definitely in the market! Being a Lemons car, we're hoping not to have to go new with this potentially pricey item. We're certain to have more issues during our build, so I'll thank the list in advance for their contributions. If successful, we'll be the first TR4 in Lemons. BTW, we first looked a TR7 coupe in Santa Rosa that could have been bought for $150. Our biggest concern, as well as with my GT6+ parts car I considered using, was the head clearance for a full cage when a roof was involved. Andy Packard _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 11:39:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271D440693 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:39:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E499140440 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:38:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 66D851C00011B; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (adsl-75-3-205-242.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net [75.3.205.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D8836E00009A; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:37:36 -0500 (EST) References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <57D8FE860BA84F5794D0A3F7803A084D@TRIUMPH.local> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01CEE1133560@TITAN.dwholdings.local> From: Chuck Gee Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:37:34 -0800 To: Edward Dunn x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355769460; bh=rgO0u3OLXOUOSGRNCX29TyiDgOC16DHiZZUEY/jKzRg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=u/3qrANWWHzeQ64pwuJFbDK2GadI+QYlBzHxoKf4LGEZTNtNhoCIs2/0JQa31Mj9D noITWLKgxhgTLrrw2Eb2ZvWmEoNgV+6mlg+4VU+QDGX89ODlQNrlDY1MzA0eTYL+9V ThPi7RLQM/fz+vPP8SSiMvTXHQCLGuunwvaYRnc8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290450cf666e6705 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I believe it was the best selling TR ever. Chuck On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Edward Dunn wrote: > One of the issues is that the TR7 was never really too popular as a new car. > Not many folks sit back and say, "Gee, I would really like to have a nice > TR7". Sure some do, but Miata's were and still are extremely popular as > regular drivers. The other issue is where would you run this spec class? I > might consider it if you run the series in California. Laguna Seca, Sears > Point, Willow Springs, Buttonwillow, etc. > > I think most folks would rather build a Spitfire for an entry level race car. > > Nice idea, but I think it would hard to get enough racers (or potential > racers)involved. > > Edward Dunn > > West Coast Vintage Racing > 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 > Encinitas CA 92024 > > 760-492-3814 > > www.vintageracing.us > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of yellow04@tr4racer.com > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:58 AM > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > > The Rodney Dangerfields of the Triumph world for sure... We have had an > underwhelming response to the TR7 Spec class. > > I envision all the fun of a Spec Miata, but with a much better chance of > coming home with all your paint. Affordable buy-in, cheap tires, pump gas, > close racing, and you are doing it in a Triumph! I am thinking it would take > somewhere around $5000 to maybe $7500 to buy and build the car. We get a > handful of guys to do it, show off some good, close racing, and we promote the > heck out of it. Sounds like a great way to get some more people on track.. > > Oh well... > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Hutchisen" > To: ; > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > > >> OK Henry, >> Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The >> TR7 spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, >> so why not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's >> of the Triumph world. No respect! >> Tim Hutchisen > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 11:41:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9186E4064C for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:41:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dunnwalshholdings.com (dunnwalshholdings.com [70.166.11.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C29A40440 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:41:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa%13]) with mapi; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:37:42 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: Chuck Gee Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:39:52 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Wedges Thread-Index: Ac3chUawgKPk9xEMQhScDbtr9rpiSAAAG/tA References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <57D8FE860BA84F5794D0A3F7803A084D@TRIUMPH.local> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01CEE1133560@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Really? Well, let's buy a couple and race 'em Chuck! Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Gee [mailto:chasgee@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:38 AM To: Edward Dunn Cc: yellow04@tr4racer.com; FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges I believe it was the best selling TR ever. Chuck On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Edward Dunn wrote: > One of the issues is that the TR7 was never really too popular as a new car. > Not many folks sit back and say, "Gee, I would really like to have a > nice TR7". Sure some do, but Miata's were and still are extremely > popular as regular drivers. The other issue is where would you run > this spec class? I might consider it if you run the series in > California. Laguna Seca, Sears Point, Willow Springs, Buttonwillow, etc. > > I think most folks would rather build a Spitfire for an entry level race car. > > Nice idea, but I think it would hard to get enough racers (or > potential racers)involved. > > Edward Dunn > > West Coast Vintage Racing > 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 > Encinitas CA 92024 > > 760-492-3814 > > www.vintageracing.us > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of yellow04@tr4racer.com > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:58 AM > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > > The Rodney Dangerfields of the Triumph world for sure... We have had > an underwhelming response to the TR7 Spec class. > > I envision all the fun of a Spec Miata, but with a much better chance > of coming home with all your paint. Affordable buy-in, cheap tires, > pump gas, close racing, and you are doing it in a Triumph! I am > thinking it would take somewhere around $5000 to maybe $7500 to buy > and build the car. We get a handful of guys to do it, show off some > good, close racing, and we promote the heck out of it. Sounds like a great way to get some more people on track.. > > Oh well... > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Hutchisen" > To: ; > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > > >> OK Henry, >> Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The >> TR7 spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, >> so why not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's >> of the Triumph world. No respect! >> Tim Hutchisen > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.co > m _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 11:48:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDB840570 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:48:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA9240440 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:48:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B354F38000060; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:47:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (adsl-75-3-205-242.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net [75.3.205.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 04BDBE00009C; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:47:27 -0500 (EST) References: <1b9a1.122bca58.3dfb6e9b@cs.com> <3FD85BE647B84BC0AAD23300CEF78595@TRIUMPH.local> <57D8FE860BA84F5794D0A3F7803A084D@TRIUMPH.local> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01CEE1133560@TITAN.dwholdings.local> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01CEE1133566@TITAN.dwholdings.local> From: Chuck Gee Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:47:24 -0800 To: Edward Dunn x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355770047; bh=lLDB3qPlVjCUyMuoacUFqdMr2MOF1phK36y2M4p98/0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=B5/vA6D4ybi+YIsKwBjVPVJ5K4hKqo+GV+KPqnAXtwgdNXCyRwUgSoez3/VKWGzNm D410yuRPJ32PHdKHOAueitNBd+kqvhR8apSb/kLtnwUlw2dpOKozvkMKGPsBJsFf2f qMrPA5ErrRUGvHtVMBkGJIOX0dg2X8+A/e/oSJ8o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294350cf68bd7eea Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Did Lemons with one. The car did pretty well considering it was essentially stock. I always wanted to duplicate the Huffaker TR8 coupe but it would be an expensive endeavor. Cool car though. One of the reasons I don't have one is my wife can't stand them. She dated a creepy guy with a TR 7 back in the day (no, it wasn't me, I was the creepy guy with the TR6) and just can't get over it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it..... Chuck On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Edward Dunn wrote: > Really? Well, let's buy a couple and race 'em Chuck! > > Edward Dunn > > West Coast Vintage Racing > 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 > Encinitas CA 92024 > > 760-492-3814 > > www.vintageracing.us > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Gee [mailto:chasgee@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:38 AM > To: Edward Dunn > Cc: yellow04@tr4racer.com; FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges > > I believe it was the best selling TR ever. > > Chuck > > On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Edward Dunn wrote: > >> One of the issues is that the TR7 was never really too popular as a new car. >> Not many folks sit back and say, "Gee, I would really like to have a >> nice TR7". Sure some do, but Miata's were and still are extremely >> popular as regular drivers. The other issue is where would you run >> this spec class? I might consider it if you run the series in >> California. Laguna Seca, Sears Point, Willow Springs, Buttonwillow, etc. >> >> I think most folks would rather build a Spitfire for an entry level race car. >> >> Nice idea, but I think it would hard to get enough racers (or >> potential racers)involved. >> >> Edward Dunn >> >> West Coast Vintage Racing >> 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 >> Encinitas CA 92024 >> >> 760-492-3814 >> >> www.vintageracing.us >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of yellow04@tr4racer.com >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:58 AM >> To: FOT@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges >> >> The Rodney Dangerfields of the Triumph world for sure... We have had >> an underwhelming response to the TR7 Spec class. >> >> I envision all the fun of a Spec Miata, but with a much better chance >> of coming home with all your paint. Affordable buy-in, cheap tires, >> pump gas, close racing, and you are doing it in a Triumph! I am >> thinking it would take somewhere around $5000 to maybe $7500 to buy >> and build the car. We get a handful of guys to do it, show off some >> good, close racing, and we promote the heck out of it. Sounds like a great way to get some more people on track.. >> >> Oh well... >> >> Henry >> yellow04@tr4racer.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tim Hutchisen" >> To: ; >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Wedges >> >> >>> OK Henry, >>> Guess I won't crush the Victory edition sitting here after all! The >>> TR7 spec series is a great idea! Can't seem to give the coupes away, >>> so why not? Imagine, a whole field of TR7's, the Rodney Dangerfield's >>> of the Triumph world. No respect! >>> Tim Hutchisen >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.co >> m _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 13:36:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCD542452 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:36:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8C340E68 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:36:16 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=oxrJL81fidoW/qrhpYge9w==:17 a=D2V3kOeAOREA:10 a=Dtv1gbRbJPUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=igdYgksMqP8A:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Qw81loCY_hSjuGlwCMUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=oxrJL81fidoW/qrhpYge9w==:117 Received: from [166.137.120.53] ([166.137.120.53:43827] helo=[10.170.20.14]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id A6/16-05345-5F18FC05; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:35:01 +0000 References: From: Bob Kramer Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:34:55 -0600 To: Andrew Packard Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Lemons team race seat needs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Lemon's TR6 race car in central Texas that could be made available to a team that wanted to use it. It has completed 2 Lemon's races but we seem to have lost interest. Most of the team either vintage races, of auto crosses and our time is better spent on our real race cars. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Andrew Packard wrote: > Thanks to Joe et al for bringing my race team into this group. Three Triumph > Travelers in the Bay Area of CA are putting together a TR4 Lemons racer. You > can learn a bit about our team and one picture of our car in the "Which Car" > section of my "Lemons to Lemons" blog here. > > Currently we are dealing with some floor pan rust issues with one repair to go > prior to getting the 6-point cage installed. > > My first question to the list is regarding a recommended racing seat brand and > model that fits well in a TR4 through 6. We want to get the seat prior to our > roll cage design to ensure enough head clearance for our tallest driver. If > someone has a "retired" seat they would like to move to a new home, we're > definitely in the market! Being a Lemons car, we're hoping not to have to go > new with this potentially pricey item. We're certain to have more issues > during our build, so I'll thank the list in advance for their contributions. > If successful, we'll be the first TR4 in Lemons. > > BTW, we first looked a TR7 coupe in Santa Rosa that could have been bought for > $150. Our biggest concern, as well as with my GT6+ parts car I considered > using, was the head clearance for a full cage when a roof was involved. > > Andy Packard > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 13:44:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4444248E for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:44:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4864225C for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:44:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 93CDB1C000159; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.198.131.40] (unknown [166.137.80.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 07D67E0000F8; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:42:57 -0500 (EST) References: <8D653A82-86B7-4107-AE27-580A092F1156@austin.rr.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:42:52 -0500 To: Bob Kramer x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355776977; bh=g5zN7+gUq/2UaAKE8d5VsEfX2GUMeFSEZJ79Q0T6OuQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=oswGEmRzx7iiXqnjbG1QPcrSUUEEggQxzhNzmhNOAdB69pXXoUJDmsjQNOx7GFF/O 2pl5Ys/GlieVLMqpXdMMuKFX8aF6ic8g/QdlporQx6koRM1S5v5yT0o3q62oub4jd7 MBwQweOz55vBFZR3WPCoZqb4nwWbUleac90ZLFto= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290350cf83cf2884 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Lemons team race seat needs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would love to have this car. I know a few people who would love to co run it. Unfortunately I am in the Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey area. It's a little far away for us and to get it shipped might be a little too much. I can still dream! Chris On Dec 17, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > I have a Lemon's TR6 race car in central Texas that could be made available to > a team that wanted to use it. It has completed 2 Lemon's races but we seem to > have lost interest. Most of the team either vintage races, of auto crosses and > our time is better spent on our real race cars. > Bob Kramer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Andrew Packard wrote: > >> Thanks to Joe et al for bringing my race team into this group. Three > Triumph >> Travelers in the Bay Area of CA are putting together a TR4 Lemons racer. > You >> can learn a bit about our team and one picture of our car in the "Which > Car" >> section of my "Lemons to Lemons" blog here. >> >> Currently we are dealing with some floor pan rust issues with one repair to > go >> prior to getting the 6-point cage installed. >> >> My first question to the list is regarding a recommended racing seat brand > and >> model that fits well in a TR4 through 6. We want to get the seat prior to > our >> roll cage design to ensure enough head clearance for our tallest driver. > If >> someone has a "retired" seat they would like to move to a new home, we're >> definitely in the market! Being a Lemons car, we're hoping not to have to > go >> new with this potentially pricey item. We're certain to have more issues >> during our build, so I'll thank the list in advance for their > contributions. >> If successful, we'll be the first TR4 in Lemons. >> >> BTW, we first looked a TR7 coupe in Santa Rosa that could have been bought > for >> $150. Our biggest concern, as well as with my GT6+ parts car I considered >> using, was the head clearance for a full cage when a roof was involved. >> >> Andy Packard >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 20:26:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E3642480 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:26:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB02F42476 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:26:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MF7001HLITPPQ50@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:25:02 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:25:09 -0500 Subject: [Fot] need help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, this isn't a Triumph question, but with all of our group's knowledge, I may get some answers. I have an early 70's John Deere 350 dozer with a 3 cylinder Diesel engine. Due to a malfunctioning temp gauge and a brain fade, I overheated the engine. I now have a milkshake in the oil pan. I pulled the head today and didn't see anything obvious; head gasket looked ok, cylinder walls ok, head ok. I think the problem was in #1 cylinder, but found no obvious problems. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 20:37:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492A6400A5 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:37:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E8E4006E for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:36:28 -0700 (MST) d="scan'208";a="70865448" Received: from unknown (HELO PetersTowerPC) ([114.198.89.78]) by icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 18 Dec 2012 11:34:48 +0800 From: "Peter Vucinic" To: "'Bill Tobin'" , References: <3D5900C3F4944640A3D2519D1755D85E@hpd530> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:34:53 +1100 thread-index: Ac3cz22sB89GJlj9RJassqBg02tDRwAAOuLA Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [Fot] need help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, Inspect the bores very carefully. Diesels are known to split/fine crack in the cylinder liner walls when overheated. Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2012 2:25 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] need help Hi All, this isn't a Triumph question, but with all of our group's knowledge, I may get some answers. I have an early 70's John Deere 350 dozer with a 3 cylinder Diesel engine. Due to a malfunctioning temp gauge and a brain fade, I overheated the engine. I now have a milkshake in the oil pan. I pulled the head today and didn't see anything obvious; head gasket looked ok, cylinder walls ok, head ok. I think the problem was in #1 cylinder, but found no obvious problems. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/pvucinic@netspace.net.au _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 20:56:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A76403DE for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:56:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12BA403DE for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:56:44 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=+H2JmkcY6S6S+nxg01mQJA==:17 a=5_c0aQ2rkQIA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=uMOzAc0AacoA:10 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=dfu_dEcZuzUJaaDpApIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=ry2Bfvxzse4A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=+H2JmkcY6S6S+nxg01mQJA==:117 Received: from [166.137.123.34] ([166.137.123.34:59923] helo=[10.168.64.169]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id BF/E5-04255-039EFC05; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 03:55:28 +0000 References: <000c01cddafc$a1980240$e4c806c0$@sbcglobal.net> <5DD2D227C3E54042BA63D69D2435D068@Bud> From: Bob Kramer Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:55:24 -0600 To: TR4 Tony Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Devin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Devin body in the attic! I think the trick way is to build mounting pockets moulded around 2x4's and glass those pockets to the body in locations that catch the TR frame body mounts. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 17, 2012, at 3:21 AM, TR4 Tony wrote: > I have just bought a Devin E body for a TR4 and plan to put together a little > plastic bodied car .... Similarly any advice about how to attach it to the > frame would be most welcome! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 15 Dec 2012, at 21:18, "RACER BUD" wrote: > >> Also Bill Hart has a Devin TR.. contact Tony Garmey at > horizonracing@msn.com >> RB >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mitchell" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:44 AM >> Subject: [Fot] Devin >> >> >>> I think that there were a couple of Devin owners on this list, if so, I > have >>> a friend >>> that recently purchased a '59 Devin D Roadster. It was built by Devin, and >>> has a >>> Porsche motor. He has some questions about parts and would like to get in >>> touch >>> with anyone who can help him. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> -- >>> Doug Mitchell >>> dmitchel@sbcglobal.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 22:15:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2194041C for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:15:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A37403EA for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:15:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Dec 2012 05:13:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.40] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Dec 2012 05:13:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp124-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Dec 2012 05:13:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355807623; bh=Qy6h0y7Lr/dhR/dlcTz92Or//6NvaRIJA9LZo4okB58=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=k6ivNNbkQ9/RAjJCFqVdzn1FmW2ciXGKZpKE2Z89P25AGlnPZwdgmaLJ56YcpKqXJ4ozq5Rx736JJYswhZbeVrJYEEyEErNxlPa1rmZIELvEbNJuzx9MzPzDkuUcGmwgs+UaEqgCKDqqiQt4SaJjPtbj8sbm/cJqJ2VhCktOez8= 5dr6cJgIank3rtUmVzSLZbHXW8Uzp8GeTaemPe6jSdKTNN3eWhKk04AM3vFJ Gf0UZUenQoQSxcVsq_19qybCgiKZQptY4gLWeqko0nO8APDCpfXV.VFl43TJ F60EMETGsoXMEpbh6AAc2KL_4J08PhyGbC3R6ZniX8oaUfHPVBuacJm4mvET qzSdhJQYXRxHk0l3x5q1JQ6lQfLp3KPjGIerlVc5MaOJ7.vm81l9BIqLUycp SAT7AoiiTAl9M.52txRddiyJfMV7_r7SKb6Z.xe0jDgOpQa0Xga4XCiz6dk_ T9y5CViP9s2tmCdU4QsH08irMJQtD2mHzFjSvAyP8bAQboDt4sY2NcDOvB1p rFPueDDXtU.LOkbe.6j4VHEzEZCBCbQpHK.2JT4QxSV_b8usAaqzUAF7JIxL 8TzEOCWcJGgIKNHpLV_4xMMTsXAILXUgfQbo1SX_vglGKmlnWdwSs4sFNw15 .95DzENzDtih9doo0lfRpMG3TGX0- Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp124-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2012 05:13:43 +0000 UTC References: <3D5900C3F4944640A3D2519D1755D85E@hpd530> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:13:43 -0700 To: Bill Tobin Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] need help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Likely warped head depending on how hot. Check the head for distortion. If off, deck the head and get a compressible copper type gasket IMO. Tyler Thompson l National Account Executive - Public Safety Sector esri | One International Court | Broomfield, CO 80021 Phone: 303.449-7779 ext. 8260, cell: 719.510-1649 | E-mail: tyler_thompson@esri.com Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Dec 17, 2012, at 8:25 PM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > Hi All, this isn't a Triumph question, but with all of our group's knowledge, > I may get some answers. > I have an early 70's John Deere 350 dozer with a 3 cylinder Diesel engine. Due > to a malfunctioning temp gauge and a brain fade, I overheated the engine. I > now have a milkshake in the oil pan. > I pulled the head today and didn't see anything obvious; head gasket looked > ok, cylinder walls ok, head ok. I think the problem was in #1 cylinder, but > found no obvious problems. > Any suggestions? > Thanks, Bill > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 18 08:07:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0526C40687 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:07:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0733740568 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:07:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [71.171.28.217]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MF8007GKF9OYKD5@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:05:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:05:45 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: fot Subject: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Last year FoT sponsored an "ad", which was a memorial to Uncle Jack, in Burt Levy's latest book ("200 MPH Steamroller"). I notice that Levy is working on a sequel, so I contacted Joe to see what he thought about sponsoring another "ad". He's busy rounding up funding for the 2013 Kastner Cup, but suggested that I poll the group for interest. So what say you? If there's sufficient interest (we had a dozen participants last time) I'll take the lead on this one. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 18 09:18:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2265340687 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:18:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FC140653 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:18:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from TimDellVostro [216.183.226.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A6BC6A70080; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:15:56 -0600 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Peter Vucinic'" , "'Bill Tobin'" , References: <3D5900C3F4944640A3D2519D1755D85E@hpd530> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:15:46 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3cz22sB89GJlj9RJassqBg02tDRwAAOuLAABp+w8A= Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] need help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's exactly what happened on our TRactor motor at Gingerman a couple of years ago. We broke the water pump shaft, overheated and had very fine vertical splits/cracks on #3 and #4. In our case it was easy to find because we had water in #3 and #4 bores. When I let it sit overnight the splits showed up due to a fine line of rust on the split. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Vucinic Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:35 PM To: 'Bill Tobin'; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] need help Bill, Inspect the bores very carefully. Diesels are known to split/fine crack in the cylinder liner walls when overheated. Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2012 2:25 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] need help Hi All, this isn't a Triumph question, but with all of our group's knowledge, I may get some answers. I have an early 70's John Deere 350 dozer with a 3 cylinder Diesel engine. Due to a malfunctioning temp gauge and a brain fade, I overheated the engine. I now have a milkshake in the oil pan. I pulled the head today and didn't see anything obvious; head gasket looked ok, cylinder walls ok, head ok. I think the problem was in #1 cylinder, but found no obvious problems. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/pvucinic@netspace.net.au _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 18 10:47:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A909040E45 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:47:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648A74064C for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:47:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id d1XM1k0070b6N64A35lshH; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:45:52 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id d5ls1k0042xZMJ48P5lsNN; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:45:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:45:51 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Tim Murphy s=q20121106; t=1355852752; bh=C/hdlZd04isxFH2VotXP8s8w9HTJ9kPatL/e5mVG9UQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Ca5emehAokmVnAaBXUyPBwDf4X7OziI42n68C6N+8Xj6uRA/tVwWCgCunNswCfiXS 0/XMFVYBM7fyeauVR1xW9hdz8LYQPjktmnlwKQHlmh0IHjE418IJIoC55WxopriBwT NQHy8oijC2HtHnNxQGo2YPu2oo89ULpZgwkPdy935SYz4JohZpFJkjX6/FkdswLaDh 27UmQcjJdI1igjDi3ncte565PjdSjI4kCetRONJ83HIg4avKtlRA54ikJHcn1Fjj3T A/ISu37Ud4qx1Jgvv9XIGMQ+XRiGPlD5JVRJ23CGI4Y74AD2BItgzd4ELF9D0Lwns+ 8XxIaXU51ua2g== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] need help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, If you have made a milkshake in the crankcase the bearings are most likely hosed. It's not hard to confirm it if you can get the oil pan off and pull a couple caps. You can buy dye penetrant spray from welding shops to check your cylinder walls ,head & block. jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Murphy" To: "Peter Vucinic" , "Bill Tobin" , fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:15:46 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] need help That's exactly what happened on our TRactor motor at Gingerman a couple of years ago. We broke the water pump shaft, overheated and had very fine vertical splits/cracks on #3 and #4. B In our case it was easy to find because we had water in #3 and #4 bores. B When I let it sit overnight the splits showed up due to a fine line of rust on the split. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Vucinic Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:35 PM To: 'Bill Tobin'; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] need help Bill, Inspect the bores very carefully. Diesels are known to split/fine crack in the cylinder liner walls when overheated. Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2012 2:25 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] need help Hi All, this isn't a Triumph question, but with all of our group's knowledge, I may get some answers. I have an early 70's John Deere 350 dozer with a 3 cylinder Diesel engine. Due to a malfunctioning temp gauge and a brain fade, I overheated the engine. I now have a milkshake in the oil pan. I pulled the head today and didn't see anything obvious; head gasket looked ok, cylinder walls ok, head ok. I think the problem was in #1 cylinder, but found no obvious problems. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/pvucinic@netspace.net.au _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 18 15:17:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CA24056B for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:17:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D114F4042A for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:17:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id d9ME1k0011afHeLA5AG98g; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:16:09 +0000 Received: from sz0063.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id dAG91k0082yr1eL8dAG9XZ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:16:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:16:09 +0000 (UTC) From: vintage.racer@comcast.net To: Friends of Triumph s=q20121106; t=1355868969; bh=H0DENBmgCUlR5zvLfjjLk/rKmaDLkzf1q5lF9kwPftQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=EE1aYscfhr/rsh2aqIV4EkJxE8MfkqzOIE4qXAl7oO1EQu4Ho0+3OjWTwbwlvnGwB fW02GQsa+6GOKXwHIJ5WeOrGs4P53TcXy5J7nNqmH8BkNZgAjmoDDea9nfLICwZAqY V7eLAbnlr6nEObIVdSwEVtoZIKZLZ/4meiv20jQGHi53F+aELbXpzKvihvHdvg2GwE cEznn4TamG4gyV3TJNd3DFjXm00X52zjDFe4O5TgIQ2tOmjOb44w4Wxaw1qn/OM0HU +LMhsh+ms9vYT9MqgBKCV2CVDZy9BnZBySBQJv93tx9/RUFXbWQP2BfyiLScPLg/gg UnvMyGsmmbqfg== Subject: [Fot] Robert Johns Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Robert: Please contact me off line regarding your participation in the 1957 Sebring race. Thanks Gary Horstkorta _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 18 15:19:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D02642271 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:19:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D5540396 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:19:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id B0C9FF440FA; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rYj+gfsR33MP; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (207-118-140-159.dyn.centurytel.net [207.118.140.159]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 22FDFF440D2; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:18:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:18:09 -0600 To: vintage.racer@comcast.net,Friends of Triumph From: Peter Caldwell ryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1973513037.1504709.1355868969021.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Robert Johns Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is there still time to sign up? At 04:16 PM 12/18/2012, vintage.racer@comcast.net wrote: >Robert: > > >Please contact me off line regarding your participation in the 1957 >Sebring race. Thanks > > >Gary Horstkorta _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 18 15:51:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76C942479 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:51:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f175.google.com (mail-ea0-f175.google.com [209.85.215.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6840A4068F for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:51:17 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f175.google.com with SMTP id h11so516022eaa.34 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:49:56 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gD+L+hArCrpD8gCfp1nqIhXyaKtBYL16yM/Q1/hVjVw=; b=Z130qfqY8JJAYeUnVk15dw5pvfVGIDyZ8+C3yCth1O6Ud03soKu9qzhAihY1TI41n5 oV0Tv16J/tLs9CdyEEcFT1+XKt1kIjLs3gRRt/VNGyyLQTBm72zYzIMSomnGygPQuywh CfPApenCvzH5i7GOmWb3JE3T43sy6FYD+120wXt/Uyh4gUKPSVfL/ZHrEJKkA+1uNJIR c5Mzb6Cg64XPsnjpVrgS2bZXJUpmvVVtsQvlTlwZTD0gUz8Ym5A5ULYtKY4TcYhKUol+ VJnkmjq6n4FCg6aKxAwQPn2HDmrnzH4q964dfJJ34KNPqukDsB1aVjZ1Sm+bRE/v7qYM rcHw== Received: by 10.14.176.66 with SMTP id a42mr9318507eem.34.1355870996562; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.198 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:49:56 -0800 (PST) References: <1973513037.1504709.1355868969021.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <20121218221810.B0C9FF440FA@mx2.netinteraction.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:49:56 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: Peter Caldwell Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Robert Johns Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You will need a special fast Delorean and the "professors " help....oh..don't forget the lightning! On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Is there still time to sign up? > > > > At 04:16 PM 12/18/2012, vintage.racer@comcast.net wrote: > >> Robert: >> >> >> Please contact me off line regarding your participation in the 1957 >> Sebring race. Thanks >> >> >> Gary Horstkorta >> > ______________________________**_________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 18 16:49:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D024247A for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:49:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FACD40551 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:47:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id d3cG1k0070x6nqcA3BmG26; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:46:16 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([67.188.175.115]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id dBmF1k0072Vle0b8YBmFaB; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:46:16 +0000 References: <1973513037.1504709.1355868969021.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <20121218221810.B0C9FF440FA@mx2.netinteraction.com> From: Vintage Racer Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:46:15 -0800 To: Peter Caldwell s=q20121106; t=1355874376; bh=np6s1+XjcPlry+k1DDPn1Xr73gLPakVQNIfRKUBrAAc=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=XTw7rHRA8sUnYkqqpSeqh2+Rh0S9TN1z3HyDfgp0C1KgFZcrXpT3rMPGdXIwKK+lh pMfM945bMvCN6XNdWBuMfFSf+ywJAtlsabtOmYQ0QBsJJLYgK3CUY861y0A0HyG1iu bT9icn9gRBo96MK5LMXZyH2zxbaWxPHQzcIZrUk1WxLHx28EFWhK9BYxuwq/Mp5qmw K/rp7k6qeJBpjrKn149slZPVjmT7GWSlAGKQe3PAGn3gCXeO+VirfsbQmeHr/7mSck ntNcxYr8zV5+JqNX1R8pVgG/amyApUvsmtGs06IRJrc20vx9YdXIBDvR6tB0VrA6I0 +RDrCZadKEYfw== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Robert Johns Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Certainly. Just send me a check for the $300 entry fee and I'll be happy to reserve you a spot on the grid. If you go for that proposition, perhaps you would like to also send me a sizable deposit check for a luxury Italian cruise on the Costa Concordia. Gary Sent from my iPad On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Is there still time to sign up? > > > At 04:16 PM 12/18/2012, vintage.racer@comcast.net wrote: >> Robert: >> >> >> Please contact me off line regarding your participation in the 1957 Sebring race. Thanks >> >> >> Gary Horstkorta _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 18 17:22:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8585424A6 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:22:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F1540433 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:22:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2012 00:21:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.36] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2012 00:21:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2012 00:21:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355876461; bh=6jVMSOCPUDTmUi5OGpN5kzitM72LePsPLw5R/Njbers=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vamFSb/yWsjJNM0tEIBWVTthqZNP95mSqPNXWhNsQ82DWHDa31RNx0LWK66x1bCdCjhbOO3QsBNzkTMHaJb7SJ2ulJX/jKICxcbzG1fR6Mkaf++fziOVf75zc1UbPmGmIaGAuqBO+CdPj9iuKbtbtoInbsbCljfAwbH73k66ucs= Hi.Kq3B8cl.759W5sT5qGci0VJr6O3d6pFH.m.ldahsAI.F6H0iwOgw8UAUN g_zqqKzUM1D7U9nAMmnb63d33plA83S5KiXPFu.eQLeHZHsTYtvfTCXkWPKb 1aJ__wcCDhgKecmPKkPdEKtyXqlYHeVay_o4Lv7lMXkgfXMjMfpPwGI51jTv zq.rIdd7vu6LEV24A4e6etX2JD1Y5mZqo7KHlDtHlgG5koSRuOtTUeevIsz7 D5EW_ciOdvvIlB8UCyAnTJ0buMpXX.i8nK4hFyfDGdo0pb4R1cUTeGhWfbgP fOIkA5Fpl_TJ6lo0Zbf_m4FoYi6jNWFudsvM47TwJwy6aE.gCJipuXlD8syq jvHoHB0HpckvQy5v_ArJA61KUAP7FWMkxKHVfx2G897PWmPo85cnOoT8e.3s YIEdaO2GVA4KIO9NYo1EiqQabA6NnpBgsueJ9pJ9isnk.C6H62ns1ACFvRWw Nj1gMOgcsmH6VD5KDhCF8XWtt1_r9eEsT98o- Received: from [192.168.169.2] (dmitchel@68.248.74.116 with plain) by smtp104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2012 16:21:01 -0800 PST Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:19:03 -0500 From: Doug Mitchell To: "J.C. Hassall" Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You might check with Burt to see if there is still time. The book was supposed to be released this past September, but I know he missed that deadline. Not sure when it will be out now. He owes me a copy when it is released. At any rate, I'd be willing to put in some money. Cheers, Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel@sbcglobal.net "J.C. Hassall" wrote: >Amici > >Last year FoT sponsored an "ad", which was a memorial to Uncle Jack, in Burt Levy's latest book ("200 MPH Steamroller"). I notice that Levy is working on a sequel, so I contacted Joe to see what he thought about sponsoring another "ad". He's busy rounding up funding for the 2013 Kastner Cup, but suggested that I poll the group for interest. > >So what say you? If there's sufficient interest (we had a dozen participants last time) I'll take the lead on this one. > >jim > >-- >Jim Hassall >Blacksburg VA >'63 TR4 in autox preparation >99% finished, 90% to go >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 18 17:50:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F517424A6 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:50:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B7E40C01 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:49:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2012 00:48:31 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.107] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2012 00:48:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2012 00:48:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355878111; bh=b6KjNVdX3COgpny2lrxlEoRW7/xoKpagMwADuUOH9Ek=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Organization:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=1O03BrSwNmPxnb9vqea5A8vLq5zuU9pVOjkO8i8pErlGCBEFJi30b2Us6MwH725TL3CrI7JdLVi49udJRPGZBj9Ssll2cbVWUzesE4SKgZOlzsax9UEtk0F5X8ne5W+fuZnGxhFKwmQcVMIRnBaESjulc/xppjH0Rly016iHm4w= 0fmYjOxLwjtSh0LU7Sz1xjw9TZ1SoVsINfeGZeLZcxzltePyH22aCZeU2qB_ 4TDyWjt7blwBV_3U5Ox2zmT6GsUti55JaE.1EE1Jn0O.JX5hiDpwsQZmmbCr r6M63hMaU6dtLHCwq6hsZh8yWmdVFAXMu8y4weZloIiaatnghqyryQFJ50sD .Iwj78FywCmP9ctoJCAnxCD0yl.nC9I2fpScGzb1jo.h_j1w6F7Fb9aaFwwi xUfOnGIBi_0CUREUN4sEnKNOvqtvS2HYD1pJSBSAgab6y_PV0GbcTmkGQJxH n1naAaGWUJHbtpGuJz1qK8Rcb_c9bNmgsz9c4B7hnFPJAlbxeydMB9LCBW04 RRf9En3swwjQfwKGhTaZMpUHrc_Bo6bgI54iSIvg- Received: from HadoLaptop (mhado@108.93.117.23 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2012 16:48:31 -0800 PST From: "M&M Hado" To: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:48:25 -0600 Organization: M&M Hado Thread-Index: Ac3dgj3EOFch2vjCTjq2j6nx8CHDOg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was just finishing up a TR2 engine rebuild and one of the 9.5" studs stripped the threads in the block at the bottom of the 4" hole when I got to about 70 ft-lb. Has anyone successfully put a HeliCoil at the bottom of this hole? The original size of the hole in the block is about 17/32" (just enough to accommodate the 1/2" stud, of course) and this happens to be the tap drill size for the 1/2-13 HeliCoil. The OD of the HeliCoil itself is about .615" so that means I would have to drill out the hole in the block to something larger than this - say 5/8" and save about an inch at the bottom for tapping for the HeliCoil. I'm wondering if there is enough meat in the block to drill out the hole to 5/8". Having gone this far, I really would like to save this block so any ideas/hints/experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Hado _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 07:07:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CA540418 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:07:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFCF40400 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:06:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W8 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:05:33 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:05:33 -0500 FILETIME=[E964DA10:01CDDDF1] Subject: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends: I see a lot of folks in various marquees (including Triumphs) using coil-over shocks in the rear to supplement a tired leaf-spring. I noticed Ratco is selling this as an upgrade to the TR suspension. My question, especially with regard to a rotoflex axle in my GT6 is, why not? benefits seem to be: - spring travels same path as shock - easily adjustable spring rate and height downsides: - possible space limitations (probably avoidable when going from donut to CV) - what am I missing??? If you're redoing the entire suspension anyway, is this not a good way to go? And if not, has anyone tried the composite "leaf" springs and saved the 40-50 lbs of steel? Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 08:01:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0F840440 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:01:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s14.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s14.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECD040406 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:01:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT402-EAS447 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s14.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:59:38 -0800 References: From: Vince G Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:59:36 -0500 To: Charles WATSON FILETIME=[778543F0:01CDDDF9] Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Charles, there are some set ups out there for the GT6 if you want a completely new/more modern set up. I think PRI sells what looks like a good conversion. Im on a budget so I took the 15 dollar route and simply added a helper spring to the top of the tired old transverse leaf stack. I bought a 2000# trailer spring at princess auto, used the longest leaf, de-arched it to achieve a lower ride height and slipped it under the top plate that bolts down onto leaf set up. It was simple, cheap and easy to install and works really well. It's nice that I didn't even have to pull the main leaf out in order to do this and could out the helper easily and adjust the arch if need be. I left in the rotoflex setup and run on performance street tires. I figure I'm less likely to break a hub or axle that way but that's just my opinion. When I have a few grand to blow I may do the rear conversion. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-19, at 9:05 AM, "Charles WATSON" wrote: > Friends: > > I see a lot of folks in various marquees (including Triumphs) using coil-over > shocks in the rear to supplement a tired leaf-spring. I noticed Ratco is > selling this as an upgrade to the TR suspension. My question, especially with > regard to a rotoflex axle in my GT6 is, why not? > > benefits seem to be: > - spring travels same path as shock > - easily adjustable spring rate and height > > downsides: > - possible space limitations (probably avoidable when going from donut to CV) > - what am I missing??? > > If you're redoing the entire suspension anyway, is this not a good way to go? > And if not, has anyone tried the composite "leaf" springs and saved the 40-50 > lbs of steel? > > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 08:58:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615004042A for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:58:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4B1403D3 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:58:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [71.171.28.217]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MFA007RUCARHZU1@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:56:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:56:51 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: Doug Mitchell References: Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 12/18/2012 7:19 PM, Doug Mitchell wrote: > You might check with Burt to see if there is still time. The book was supposed to be released this past September, but I know he missed that deadline. Not sure when it will be out now. He owes me a copy when it is released. At any rate, I'd be willing to put in some money. > > Doug, good point. Burt said: Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much appreciated! I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. Ideas? Henry, what do you think? TIA jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 09:52:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1B24041D for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:52:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A1240401 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:50:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 87C141C0001E0; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.41.106.77] (mobile-198-228-205-026.mycingular.net [198.228.205.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 05A3BE0000B3; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:48:47 -0500 (EST) References: From: Christopher Bock Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:48:40 -0500 To: Vince G x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355935728; bh=crdTcdVABI6+7YUbBfHP5XJhGE1w6j9e+G7V2c+u1iE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=yrx/b5Mb9yPRw8/0qI9MW/bSaTSfykif5v8xGaFB1ZeJd37pv0d7yXTicI+Qp5I23 QwJPCE8/uaS5dIQFdhaDZzN8Q3z2bd/WVZpz8H0nflKMTEFT3OAtUuw0ndmv9tRuiE udFFVyNZ76JrORLdAB6k/xobJ1mE3H//fEBwqtvI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290350d1efed497c Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I did see the conversion from PRI. It looks sweet and cool. If I had the green I would go for it. But... What about using coil overs and just a single leaf. Use the coil over to do the ride hight and ride control and let the leaf do the suspension geometry movements. Any thoughts on how that might work? Isn't there a picture and a small comment about this in one of Kas books? Chris On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Vince G wrote: > Charles, there are some set ups out there for the GT6 if you want a completely > new/more modern set up. I think PRI sells what looks like a good conversion. > > Im on a budget so I took the 15 dollar route and simply added a helper spring > to the top of the tired old transverse leaf stack. I bought a 2000# trailer > spring at princess auto, used the longest leaf, de-arched it to achieve a > lower ride height and slipped it under the top plate that bolts down onto leaf > set up. It was simple, cheap and easy to install and works really well. It's > nice that I didn't even have to pull the main leaf out in order to do this and > could out the helper easily and adjust the arch if need be. > > I left in the rotoflex setup and run on performance street tires. I figure I'm > less likely to break a hub or axle that way but that's just my opinion. When > I have a few grand to blow I may do the rear conversion. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2012-12-19, at 9:05 AM, "Charles WATSON" wrote: > >> Friends: >> >> I see a lot of folks in various marquees (including Triumphs) using > coil-over >> shocks in the rear to supplement a tired leaf-spring. I noticed Ratco is >> selling this as an upgrade to the TR suspension. My question, especially > with >> regard to a rotoflex axle in my GT6 is, why not? >> >> benefits seem to be: >> - spring travels same path as shock >> - easily adjustable spring rate and height >> >> downsides: >> - possible space limitations (probably avoidable when going from donut to > CV) >> - what am I missing??? >> >> If you're redoing the entire suspension anyway, is this not a good way to > go? >> And if not, has anyone tried the composite "leaf" springs and saved the > 40-50 >> lbs of steel? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck Watson >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 09:52:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60ECE40694 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:52:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1FF40401 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:50:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:48:53 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "'J.C. Hassall'" , "FOT@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Thread-Index: AQHN3X5zr0FWHofGkEOHdqJmHk8F9ZggrIOA//+pmuA= Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:48:52 +0000 References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net << so perhaps we should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. >> Jimmy Coan? Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J.C. Hassall Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM To: Doug Mitchell Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? On 12/18/2012 7:19 PM, Doug Mitchell wrote: > You might check with Burt to see if there is still time. The book was supposed to be released this past September, but I know he missed that deadline. Not sure when it will be out now. He owes me a copy when it is released. At any rate, I'd be willing to put in some money. > > Doug, good point. Burt said: Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much appreciated! I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. Ideas? Henry, what do you think? TIA jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 12:14:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A714064C for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:14:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE4B4040C for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:14:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.193]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BFC181C00009C for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.116] (208-38-70-241.static.izoom.net [208.38.70.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3D70EE0000AF for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:13:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jhouathome Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:13:25 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355944405; bh=MOyZty6bd0ouA+0tCvwCmr1D0N6tI1SFvCEU8f/RvUA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=lBqaTBA1uiSgRTrnZOKIx4obELWdgITV2OEEIUwXl0sP3OZ3JnD+HrQ3eWadqOdZa vFpp6Pi0IILP06O+Mz2DDRv+l8mv7ZAuvLSUZV5DkKHOJh3bNGT5w22McuzqzXjVMI 0tfrlsS7clg2l8krt1oRdsvtSC7HSvG71P4x0eCA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c150d211d32d1a Subject: [Fot] Spitfire steering hub? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi everyone. I have a Ginetta G15 going back on the race track this season that uses a Spitfire steering column. I want to install a quick release steering wheel and don't want to weld a hub onto the column if I can avoid it. Any suggestions for a quick release hub that bolts onto the splined steering shaft? Thanks, John Houlton _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 13:41:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED43A4041C for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:41:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057C9403E7 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:40:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W22 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:39:32 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: , Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:39:31 -0500 References: , <95ACF40F-6A75-403D-839A-160DBFE11C14@aol.com> FILETIME=[F304AB40:01CDDE28] Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The question I am asking myself is: If this is a good idea then why didn't Triumph build them that way when they first went to rotoflex (minor clearance issues aside)? It's not like the technology wasn't there yet. Thanks, Chuck Watson > CC: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: SeaCubeCo@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:48:40 -0500 > To: vangoughv@hotmail.com > > I did see the conversion from PRI. It looks sweet and cool. If I had the green I would go for it. > > But... > > What about using coil overs and just a single leaf. Use the coil over to do the ride hight and ride control and let the leaf do the suspension geometry movements. > > Any thoughts on how that might work? > > Isn't there a picture and a small comment about this in one of Kas books? > > Chris > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Vince G wrote: > > > Charles, there are some set ups out there for the GT6 if you want a completely > > new/more modern set up. I think PRI sells what looks like a good conversion. > > > > Im on a budget so I took the 15 dollar route and simply added a helper spring > > to the top of the tired old transverse leaf stack. I bought a 2000# trailer > > spring at princess auto, used the longest leaf, de-arched it to achieve a > > lower ride height and slipped it under the top plate that bolts down onto leaf > > set up. It was simple, cheap and easy to install and works really well. It's > > nice that I didn't even have to pull the main leaf out in order to do this and > > could out the helper easily and adjust the arch if need be. > > > > I left in the rotoflex setup and run on performance street tires. I figure I'm > > less likely to break a hub or axle that way but that's just my opinion. When > > I have a few grand to blow I may do the rear conversion. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 2012-12-19, at 9:05 AM, "Charles WATSON" wrote: > > > >> Friends: > >> > >> I see a lot of folks in various marquees (including Triumphs) using > > coil-over > >> shocks in the rear to supplement a tired leaf-spring. I noticed Ratco is > >> selling this as an upgrade to the TR suspension. My question, especially > > with > >> regard to a rotoflex axle in my GT6 is, why not? > >> > >> benefits seem to be: > >> - spring travels same path as shock > >> - easily adjustable spring rate and height > >> > >> downsides: > >> - possible space limitations (probably avoidable when going from donut to > > CV) > >> - what am I missing??? > >> > >> If you're redoing the entire suspension anyway, is this not a good way to > > go? > >> And if not, has anyone tried the composite "leaf" springs and saved the > > 40-50 > >> lbs of steel? > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Chuck Watson > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 13:43:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15224042D for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:43:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCF4403E7 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:43:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F01231C00009C for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.41.106.77] (mobile-198-228-205-026.mycingular.net [198.228.205.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1C897E00013D; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:28 -0500 (EST) References: <8F83DD89-66C4-48EE-B47C-EEED43076617@aol.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:23 -0500 To: Jhouathome x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355949695; bh=Sth18+Oi16XwUcYYeXAiiWpMVPmT98xscn5Az0nJjwg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=vwT7Plxsig5X2arsfoq6pzx4JlfJltZKq7QAFPkyj9BnemYOHg2bSdE3yN+hG9Mk9 DHbC2+wo3OnljCJW0TwRIuoQL3YazTaIN0kbkQre7CcnpWofqMdXxUIiR+2jDezxJE 4Y3OjIQzj1Qwe9IL0RV3GdJMjhaMv+sRWmAIpvBo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290150d226763433 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire steering hub? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you can't find a way to just bolt a quick release on, I have an extra column if you don't want to mangle yours. Chris On Dec 19, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Jhouathome wrote: > Hi everyone. I have a Ginetta G15 going back on the race track this season > that uses a Spitfire steering column. I want to install a quick release > steering wheel and don't want to weld a hub onto the column if I can avoid it. > Any suggestions for a quick release hub that bolts onto the splined steering > shaft? > Thanks, > John Houlton > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 17:05:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D458840436 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:05:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48994040B for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:05:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3ED84380000F3; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (adsl-75-3-205-242.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net [75.3.205.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 2934BE000097; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:04:10 -0500 (EST) References: <95ACF40F-6A75-403D-839A-160DBFE11C14@aol.com> From: Chuck Gee Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:04:06 -0800 To: Charles WATSON x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355961850; bh=ZwcmOpRzzFcnInpMUu1pElrnmcz83cky4Gb1L5/PcYQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=hqjaXx+YmHmyZ4Eb0gBfiLPuKBJblH2XbDhAIA/+cfD/+D9G+Ch+ohPurs6rFfPBq D757q7aZBS6VTlrLtNBWknrXTs2ubXRhsurau5GIx/esG3ZMDb/KjTql5Vfwg5P+BJ hKi/Fyr2De+RgLELUotSTvsgGxbElYe6xRpSYxVg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c450d255f83770 Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Most of us haven't done this because of a rules limitation. Make sure you check with the organization you plan on racing with before spending the money. Chuck On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Charles WATSON wrote: > The question I am asking myself is: If this is a good idea then why didn't > Triumph build them that way when they first went to rotoflex (minor clearance > issues aside)? It's not like the technology wasn't there yet. > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > > > > >> CC: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net >> From: SeaCubeCo@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear >> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:48:40 -0500 >> To: vangoughv@hotmail.com >> >> I did see the conversion from PRI. It looks sweet and cool. If I had the > green I would go for it. >> >> But... >> >> What about using coil overs and just a single leaf. Use the coil over to do > the ride hight and ride control and let the leaf do the suspension geometry > movements. >> >> Any thoughts on how that might work? >> >> Isn't there a picture and a small comment about this in one of Kas books? >> >> Chris >> >> On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Vince G wrote: >> >>> Charles, there are some set ups out there for the GT6 if you want a > completely >>> new/more modern set up. I think PRI sells what looks like a good > conversion. >>> >>> Im on a budget so I took the 15 dollar route and simply added a helper > spring >>> to the top of the tired old transverse leaf stack. I bought a 2000# > trailer >>> spring at princess auto, used the longest leaf, de-arched it to achieve a >>> lower ride height and slipped it under the top plate that bolts down onto > leaf >>> set up. It was simple, cheap and easy to install and works really well. > It's >>> nice that I didn't even have to pull the main leaf out in order to do this > and >>> could out the helper easily and adjust the arch if need be. >>> >>> I left in the rotoflex setup and run on performance street tires. I figure > I'm >>> less likely to break a hub or axle that way but that's just my opinion. > When >>> I have a few grand to blow I may do the rear conversion. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 2012-12-19, at 9:05 AM, "Charles WATSON" wrote: >>> >>>> Friends: >>>> >>>> I see a lot of folks in various marquees (including Triumphs) using >>> coil-over >>>> shocks in the rear to supplement a tired leaf-spring. I noticed Ratco is >>>> selling this as an upgrade to the TR suspension. My question, especially >>> with >>>> regard to a rotoflex axle in my GT6 is, why not? >>>> >>>> benefits seem to be: >>>> - spring travels same path as shock >>>> - easily adjustable spring rate and height >>>> >>>> downsides: >>>> - possible space limitations (probably avoidable when going from donut > to >>> CV) >>>> - what am I missing??? >>>> >>>> If you're redoing the entire suspension anyway, is this not a good way > to >>> go? >>>> And if not, has anyone tried the composite "leaf" springs and saved the >>> 40-50 >>>> lbs of steel? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Chuck Watson >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 17:17:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677B740416 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:17:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C74D4040B for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:17:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 00:16:09 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.202] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 00:16:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 00:16:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355962569; bh=/BGl7VqyO+SrZ9ECARQZHK99zxEoirF+Tal3+pIxT64=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4b6ljIEZxl+ieWtkQA9ztZLwVxB8fvbNEtFf109ZFQcLcsOp+ROCYugsshlGVE2Gio2amt411enQuNqkQuUlpYle6OybD93SU5jEI+aiUA5k89pRk+L0ycZlfy6FDfR6cYtGdZKG9EHAacvh9qb3EjGmoHrssuR+Ck/t0gms8Nw= g3TjiTF29NMZjUDKurNPM40OwAixCIKQ1HsOW9K0cRRfLkfDqueN4BZvUBeg aSMiBlRWaO1Wvvmd44hBm63b2qjite_zlGtQKWlViyCqts7WQprAggOr02yj aGOWI6aPM.OcATb2sZUEUyNyNJRwR0DniE3.fcTo_DcPhrSLgdxy0H4HXN8. OCTVsmPM.lLM61YkYpaGySY.2dLs5HFud0eNo1MrmsxjUq2lzDvns0i2L.ES f9M7vJYeAb3KzgQwhyKKDg803_oJn4UcRnQDi2fKAEsRKnURzWI3MuZlAINl nKdVAulElWLGlkaq12n6gHc_NB3KJXI9zjlcNEc29867Lpl.V_T959I7zaxb 3jqM2t.ZE4f4FPKF7KlghLsBZ0L1tGqSYN1T8x6C4MWzxyUMxhLgQy.B0j6r yOTb7AkJkSlHI3WbFUre0b0cKi4ELXaw8g59w.uwFrXnCwKgdgd33sjw.OFn LAFpbaJtbq7KMI48VHHbhWiBciogLtT6d6MBG9I2nIzYB15cJSNyXNFhPMNr SqofuiiBYKa3mFK3jKK59DwR5_IDsYRuonKuAUVTY3fsOfWxV5NT1CujB2UL Omw-- Received: from [192.168.169.2] (dmitchel@68.248.73.144 with plain) by smtp211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2012 16:16:08 -0800 PST Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:16:06 -0500 From: Doug Mitchell To: "Barr, Scott" Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think that Burt's suggestion of a shot of Henry's holed block would be very appropriate for his book. Just need a suitable caption. Cheers, Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel@sbcglobal.net "Barr, Scott" wrote: ><< so perhaps we should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes >forward. >> > >Jimmy Coan? > >Scott B. > >-----Original Message----- >From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf >Of J.C. Hassall >Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:57 AM >To: Doug Mitchell >Cc: fot >Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > >On 12/18/2012 7:19 PM, Doug Mitchell wrote: >> You might check with Burt to see if there is still time. The book was >supposed to be released this past September, but I know he missed that >deadline. Not sure when it will be out now. He owes me a copy when it is >released. At any rate, I'd be willing to put in some money. >> >> >Doug, good point. Burt said: > >Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany of >excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). >I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you still >have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating members" and >pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole through the side at >The Mitty might be nice.... >Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much >appreciated! > >I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we should >start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. >Ideas? Henry, what do you think? > >TIA > >jim > >-- > >Jim Hassall >Blacksburg VA >'63 TR4 in autox preparation >99% finished, 90% to go >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 17:48:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FCB40425 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:48:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D784040F for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:48:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CDBA4C091 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hhw3tdOKHxWZ for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 55DD7A4C084 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:47:06 -0500 (EST) From: To: References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:47:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that we Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared to other marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not believe perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee F. My vote is we do something for them. Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.C. Hassall" To: "Doug Mitchell" Cc: "fot" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > Burt said: > Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany > of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). > I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you > still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating > members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole > through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... > Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much > appreciated! > > I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we > should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. > Ideas? Henry, what do you think? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 18:10:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A91340435 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:10:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f178.google.com (mail-qc0-f178.google.com [209.85.216.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6608040412 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:10:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id j34so1491954qco.37 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:09:17 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=fDndcM2P4K7Sm1qvw25+gsaZpnEsBAkUOXPTQ0939c4=; b=fIT0W2/OYJyssxElo0Lg56gZzIuChQ0Q4Hjm8p594XNR24Oo70WqPMZLkfZgGW4AL9 ocpCa99v0PHOUcFJ3M+MebWCrKpCHqBqKlzvBfrK4LyS2vw1GO7Gra9gElHyweMD5M4F MvxuLquU6USQQvXRI3r+RGeV66e46oZGbe8u00D4EKHtiwP9F+L6TmeDH3uhlnujRVCq HTuacuBZq0bh8/b1yBM+I3GnX0T08JPoaA1XvVWa42wMcbSSVyTQdURPoYRw+7hvoA+5 BxLJAGW51HlLnWlWssmnO63hux5e1Cp/cPjQuyoezNY12Ymewr10Zt0lNDymhSawg4dl 20cw== Received: by 10.49.2.35 with SMTP id 3mr4333207qer.36.1355965757011; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.87.7 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:09:16 -0800 (PST) References: <95ACF40F-6A75-403D-839A-160DBFE11C14@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:09:16 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Charles WATSON Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Sorry if this comes through twice, got bounced for "too long". Forgot to > shorten original message... > Anyway... > Unfortunately/ fortunately, there are lots of answers to these questions. The pri independent rear looks neat.... but coil over shocks are specifically mentioned as "not allowed" with all the vintage group's rules that I looked at. I think that here the important thing to understand is that we want a setup that is lower and has limited travel. That's the nut shell. From the beginning days of improvement the cautions have been cost and complexity. You could get really complicated here and have lots of adjustments and options. I'm not sure any of that matters. What I want, and what is fast, is a setup that doesn't move much, never bottoms out, and is stronger than stock. Looks like Vince found a way to do that for 15.00 (Smart) There are several ways to go down this road and some are more complex than others The important basics are mainly a stiffer spring, stronger axles, and better hubs. Steve and Chuck seem to have made great strides in development here with the use of the 240Z axle set. Older versions, like mine.... use TR6 axles and Corvair CV joints (39 years old) or perhaps with custom made billet axles and hubs (and of coarse good hard shocks). Whatever is done and with what parts... essentially all need to accomplish the same thing....give the proper spring height. which in turn gives the proper camber. For the record, about perfect for a race GT6 is 3/4 degree negative. In terms of an acceptable maximum and minimum we are looking for a number of 1 to 1/2 negative. Any beefy set-up in that rage will be fine Keep it simple, make it strong. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 18:50:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F9A40445 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:50:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7307C40412 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:49:54 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=MMfTlaapIxLf410LM4y9fg==:17 a=ZsivXcFkkcoA:10 a=NUGIRaWBs6sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=EJKpq-h-VfgA:10 a=879b_Iw0AAAA:8 a=qH0YNQDRAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=DEhA6RJRAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=GMhUop2g8zCtdn0NEV0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=NFoOD0uOaO8A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=1QNhSFbQkrsA:10 a=erhHHfXf-WMA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=MMfTlaapIxLf410LM4y9fg==:117 Received: from [166.137.151.160] ([166.137.151.160:35849] helo=[10.76.253.31]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 3A/93-29976-C6E62D05; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:48:29 +0000 References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net> <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local> From: Bob Kramer Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:48:25 -0600 To: "" Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Although I too have suffered the inevitable ventilated block I suspect that our failure rate is no different than the norm for 50/60's small sports cars. Sure 911's seem more dependable but not much else. We are just more humble and self deprecating, a fine trait........ Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2012, at 6:47 PM, wrote: > What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that we > Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared to other > marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not believe > perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. > > We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee F. My > vote is we do something for them. > > Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. > > Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J.C. Hassall" > To: "Doug Mitchell" > Cc: "fot" > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > > > >> Burt said: > >> Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany >> of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). >> I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you >> still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating >> members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole >> through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... >> Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much >> appreciated! >> >> I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we >> should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. >> Ideas? Henry, what do you think? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 18:55:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51324042E for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:55:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s16.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s16.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F9040412 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:55:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W11 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:53:36 -0800 From: marty sukey CC: FOT Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:53:35 -0500 References: , <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net>, <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local>, <5BBAC350-C8AD-4A77-B13A-C0BC8B10DEF4@austin.rr.com> FILETIME=[D31DFF30:01CDDE54] Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We could do a collage of ventilated block pictures. :) Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: rkramer3@austin.rr.com > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:48:25 -0600 > To: yellow04@tr4racer.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > > Although I too have suffered the inevitable ventilated block I suspect that > our failure rate is no different than the norm for 50/60's small sports cars. > Sure 911's seem more dependable but not much else. We are just more humble and > self deprecating, a fine trait........ > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 6:47 PM, wrote: > > > What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that we > > Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared to other > > marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not believe > > perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. > > > > We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee F. My > > vote is we do something for them. > > > > Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. > > > > Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! > > > > Henry > > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J.C. Hassall" > > To: "Doug Mitchell" > > Cc: "fot" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > > > > > > > >> Burt said: > > > >> Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany > >> of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). > >> I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you > >> still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating > >> members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole > >> through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... > >> Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much > >> appreciated! > >> > >> I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we > >> should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. > >> Ideas? Henry, what do you think? > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 19:16:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D75E40519 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:16:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dunnwalshholdings.com (dunnwalshholdings.com [70.166.11.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1498C40412 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:16:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa%13]) with mapi; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:12:26 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: marty sukey Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:14:40 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Thread-Index: Ac3eVIKQBFIJQFnIRNSPM6519lbiTAAAx0kg References: , <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net>, <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local>, <5BBAC350-C8AD-4A77-B13A-C0BC8B10DEF4@austin.rr.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a couple photos of that as well. I think we would probably need a two page spread if ventilated blocks were the theme... Ed Dunn -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:54 PM Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? We could do a collage of ventilated block pictures. :) Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: rkramer3@austin.rr.com > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:48:25 -0600 > To: yellow04@tr4racer.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > > Although I too have suffered the inevitable ventilated block I suspect > that our failure rate is no different than the norm for 50/60's small > sports cars. > Sure 911's seem more dependable but not much else. We are just more > humble and > self deprecating, a fine trait........ > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 6:47 PM, wrote: > > > What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that > > we Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared > > to other marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not > > believe perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. > > > > We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee > > F. My vote is we do something for them. > > > > Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. > > > > Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! > > > > Henry > > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J.C. Hassall" > > To: "Doug Mitchell" > > Cc: "fot" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > > > > > > > >> Burt said: > > > >> Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full > >> litany of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). > >> I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So > >> you still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, > >> "participating members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's > >> motor with the hole through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... > >> Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is > >> much appreciated! > >> > >> I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps > >> we should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. > >> Ideas? Henry, what do you think? > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 19:34:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD0D40528 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:34:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFCC40412 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:34:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id deJH1k0031wfjNsADeYycm; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:32:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id deYw1k00o1J37AG8jeYx9i; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:32:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:32:58 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: , <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net>, <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local>, <5BBAC350-C8AD-4A77-B13A-C0BC8B10DEF4@austin.rr.com> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01CEE11335A6@TITAN.dwholdings.local> s=q20121106; t=1355970778; bh=CvftfFGh/DCvMNHhajysO7KDnlG/EfzpuxOsYq76Tes=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=lnaO64pe7qha+bqDIbSViUCVxPcSV1gN6qoXubPwfz/lK3IzmJeFBhRJzcCVWZr2y mL/hWD+bwYuc55eRkQlRM38qwMu11y80Om/wkDnUnWS0+tjSJgUnkljbqm3kS3W9SQ Q/uTIeCDCKEvUCXAYVdvh0lS3gk6QkdGfOemHZQQcwcZrEfsyp0Er5HnYtFNVBo0eX N/lLUL5L1YxzbrIYawyoDnwz1OYy2z9Yeh8wLcAkbgG5ExzvAB1q7G2V/7XE5v5uSe 03awt+Pwbru0vgtVdZqMUcedbQsttvwvghf7ErMKi1NSurAxXvdnW5GHZAtDmOhkiD lhBI65jqWiRvw== Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A couple of years ago we were sitting in my engine builders motorhome at the race track enjoying a few Irish coffee's in the evening. His wife was using a blender to make the whipped cream, turned it on with the spoon still inside and ventilated the blender sending whipped cream all over the motorhome. Hadn't laughed that hard in ages. Got a photo for the collage. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 19:37:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60ACB4051F for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:37:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2549640412 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:37:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.65]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CDD791C0000DA; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:36:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.41.106.77] (mobile-198-228-205-026.mycingular.net [198.228.205.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A33EBE000085; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:36:08 -0500 (EST) References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net> <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local> <5BBAC350-C8AD-4A77-B13A-C0BC8B10DEF4@austin.rr.com> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01CEE11335A6@TITAN.dwholdings.local> From: Christopher Bock Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:36:02 -0500 To: Edward Dunn x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355970970; bh=WqcnGqdK/OcvXXaFPUEk4cGNNgMQCK8N4umZuZEU1pg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=wAYFPvGyvmZI6xbvs0OREBUZl9y8nzDf0k4tgCNEilqwY4OEd/zYuTJV5ZaLgDXvj v8yrfDzuLpZuM8BZiJn35N/q0yl873QAKQuhBy8PXglLDRWVDsB3Fztw0r9HZYeG+N zQNvDWT2AqqgvHAlwkODLAV9ObknZ9ONCL+lBu4A= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294150d2799701b6 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a picture of a rolls-Royce Merlin (air plane engine) that had been ventilated by a broken rod. Basically the only thing that held the front of the block to the rear of the block was the head. It is a sad but awesome picture Chris On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Edward Dunn wrote: > I've got a couple photos of that as well. I think we would probably need a two > page spread if ventilated blocks were the theme... > > Ed Dunn > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of marty sukey > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:54 PM > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > > We could do a collage of ventilated block pictures. :) > > Marty > ---------------------------------------- >> From: rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:48:25 -0600 >> To: yellow04@tr4racer.com >> CC: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? >> >> Although I too have suffered the inevitable ventilated block I suspect >> that our failure rate is no different than the norm for 50/60's small >> sports > cars. >> Sure 911's seem more dependable but not much else. We are just more >> humble > and >> self deprecating, a fine trait........ >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 19, 2012, at 6:47 PM, wrote: >> >>> What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that >>> we Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared >>> to other marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not >>> believe perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. >>> >>> We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee >>> F. My vote is we do something for them. >>> >>> Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. >>> >>> Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! >>> >>> Henry >>> yellow04@tr4racer.com >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "J.C. Hassall" >>> To: "Doug Mitchell" >>> Cc: "fot" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? >>> >>> >>> >>>> Burt said: >>> >>>> Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full >>>> litany of excuses available > athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). >>>> I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So >>>> you still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, >>>> "participating members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's >>>> motor with the hole through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... >>>> Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is >>>> much appreciated! >>>> >>>> I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps >>>> we should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. >>>> Ideas? Henry, what do you think? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 21:11:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9BC4051F for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:11:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [69.89.24.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 74F224041D for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:11:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 1364 invoked by uid 0); 20 Dec 2012 04:09:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2012 04:09:47 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=58709 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TlXS7-0001l7-IS; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:09:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:09:45 -0600 To: , From: Tony Drews References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net> <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Agreed - lets do something positive. I'm sure we all have our piles of broken bits / trophies. I've got a beat up corner of a car I rolled hanging in the garage as wall art - and as a reminder that keeping the wheels on the car is important. I like the Jimmy Coan / Lanky F tribute and the Kas Cup winners tribute ideas. Cheers, Tony At 06:47 PM 12/19/2012, yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: >What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that we >Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared to other >marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not believe >perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. > >We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee F. My >vote is we do something for them. > >Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. > >Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! > >Henry >yellow04@tr4racer.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "J.C. Hassall" >To: "Doug Mitchell" >Cc: "fot" >Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM >Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > > > > > Burt said: > > > Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany > > of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). > > I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you > > still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating > > members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole > > through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... > > Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much > > appreciated! > > > > I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we > > should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. > > Ideas? Henry, what do you think? >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 21:31:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F1440445 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:31:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3CF40423 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:31:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30E3A137E for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:30:29 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:30:29 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net> <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local> <20121220041121.22C6B40430@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony Drews wrote: > I like the Jimmy Coan / Lanky F tribute and the Kas Cup winners > tribute ideas. > A montage of then and now? Anyone have a pic of Kas in an MG? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 19 21:41:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C8840531 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:41:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D735A40423 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:40:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 04:39:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.70] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 04:39:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 04:39:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355978371; bh=szXozJWF7noOxkZoYpDYTRqHdD1OgTRQZskN3RbpP7s=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=nWbAHDatyW3c5r/YmUQtdWIUUVbI6QmantpUVGhuL7zl63Qltt+FqkG0lu8WXB+z/poecdhXa5vyFPTyKSVrIC0hWgXt+YphllKXucjkl8UGvOZ3wvfdGzznqxdgu1Xo7t8L3n/p1t9rJsv556NxK0URaczwsulEXE2v8KyxL8A= TC5r6eI8H_qQJg5shkodnYdWV3hzJk_kKPm01CN5y.pksveIS.pDIkfPTxOm IdhSbiH0eeR1oZH3A7WEbyZnsa1GL8PmvgIChNwzXbBMvDPS3T1xyg3mrmGs 94H0jfvDl5ToQ56t3I2b.kdqm6X1k7S9Q4ZfqGS04NLihqDMSNK6ApMd_BU2 Hlrb1IPBF0BdBvB3HE6KEpMFeuwxaFcigQUXSiztspFS0RlLTDFx_t5R9pnV c2Bf0Fhwqeyk5u90U5m4yiyc9HteUPsT2QKI1X3atpz8FDnBnV8c30eTYLNw CMjQcAlcSul.X_.jR4fM.XJ.DEXQLR722y1hKnFiurMaSsLIdVspj5E1IybH kmOLOQjtX75NCktgNrsV5Iz1DlBux2CL0OvSsSsTBsout4VnF2RGLXu9O7Xh Mm8YDoqDAad0kF.xrdXS9toOf12tB_Bkrx0o5e0eFMFavxv7miZVM5C8pNCj mv7fObPfQSmmfY1pALZ0GgV5Rhv1r_Co8PfNjAopHhUZ6CFvlwZYDOSc2_22 QkRffCexps82qG7MRhordBuBPDUufuh7HaApLBcQ.oTUBdFfxB_MNPzTy3DN iQ3_V_Pp9JGn.DnvIRxjbf1qB Received: from PaulPC (macdonaldp@173.33.61.212 with login) by smtp107.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2012 20:39:31 -0800 PST From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "'Tony Drews'" , , References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net> <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local> <20121220041145.15B8A40423@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:39:48 -0500 Thread-Index: AQGLR56/U3Cny8s+b298xZ9TOmbHdAG48JXKArThfpsB7OlRCphzcp1w Content-Language: en-ca Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have some good Lanky pictures from Watkins Glen if needed. Paul -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: December 19, 2012 11:10 PM To: yellow04@tr4racer.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Agreed - lets do something positive. I'm sure we all have our piles of broken bits / trophies. I've got a beat up corner of a car I rolled hanging in the garage as wall art - and as a reminder that keeping the wheels on the car is important. I like the Jimmy Coan / Lanky F tribute and the Kas Cup winners tribute ideas. Cheers, Tony At 06:47 PM 12/19/2012, yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: >What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that we >Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared to >other marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not believe >perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. > >We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee F. >My vote is we do something for them. > >Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. > >Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! > >Henry >yellow04@tr4racer.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "J.C. Hassall" >To: "Doug Mitchell" >Cc: "fot" >Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM >Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > > > > > Burt said: > > > Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full > > litany of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). > > I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So > > you still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, > > "participating members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's > > motor with the hole through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... > > Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is > > much appreciated! > > > > I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps > > we should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. > > Ideas? Henry, what do you think? >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 08:38:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2C940521 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:38:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C2C403F6 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:38:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2F7DA1C000187; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mta005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.145]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D81B6E000087; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:36:32 -0500 (EST) References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net> <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local> <20121220041119.DB77440454@autox.team.net> To: tony@tonydrews.com, yellow04@tr4racer.com, fot@autox.team.net From: billdentin@aol.com Received: from 70.194.85.179 by webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.179) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:36:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:36:30 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356017793; bh=KFisQ6OupJG6qVLXa6/TLHtzGcGzQPVARM+ZQAzjPu4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Poo2oqjBnHTf/Pemi8DM+miHApoFl4/1Q+59XbiyWbk08YboIEhkjTkrZxdKam1oB rVQt5KQj9CAcpN36LwU+FbdTYWvNC6Ty9pFWBDDs3N3abxb9ZklJ8TiXL4678uqeD3 oeq5V8kBg6T/DS3QFEIFAp8IkHXBNMRXGzntMkUg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50d33080387b Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Agreed - lets do something positive. I'm sure we all have our piles f broken bits / trophies. I've got a beat up corner of a car I olled hanging in the garage as wall art - and as a reminder that eeping the wheels on the car is important. I like the Jimmy Coan / anky F tribute and the Kas Cup winners tribute ideas. "Self depreciation" has always been a favorite kind of humor for me. Probably because it comes so easy to me. But other, the GREAT, often use self depreciation as a method to get their public to react, "Are you kidding? You're GREAT!" Thanks to the likes of Kas, Tullius, and literally thousands of shade tree efforts TRIUMPH can do the same. TRIUMPH's record is GREAT! And there has always been a lot of that 'inside self depreciation humor' among the FOT. I'll bet not everyone knows that our orginal FOT logo, when drawn by Greg Petrolati, used the the passing and debris flags vice passing and checkered. A faded copy of that still sits on the front of my enclosed trailer. But we, rightfully, chose the latter. Burt Levy's books and style sure lend themselves to such tongue in cheek humor. And old Blackhawk Farms racers will tell you that Burt Levy's run in TRIUMPHs was a personification of the perverbial rusty, tacky TR3 nickle rocket. BUT they will also tell you that he went fast. So such self-depreciating humorous, and inside jokes work for TRIUMPH, but in this case, I vote with Tony (and others) that we take the High Road and do something classy. I'm in. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 08:40:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF7A40512 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:40:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371EA40532 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:40:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 15:39:09 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.96] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 15:39:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 15:39:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 13330 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Dec 2012 15:39:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356017948; bh=7T5EQ1bRLnc5yHz3aYKVqsEN26pbcl4Do1REIU3Eh8Q=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Wr/g0MEod4MqosFkUd4B1SzNMWkVbnC8EYg6wrH6D/yCymy23ADHeFRe8tyTF7vtxMtclS0zJuFwQqG58EvjY+RMjcRaQZhmpU7P4MgPFCq2oe2R6vQ+/9+fk5+9Srp/3+VLI1RC7fbFPOop4FW02sVmCU3oup3u/MAmWEGSdh4= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Hp1Z6KWHJr+1znXXan36EEydyu/rSwljpUwoLjL58MmyC3pStuhfwO8X8uL7MOlpqA8e7jTxzVSTvXZl3MBXV5BZVuUixKQu4yKIDCPyiFF0jb88nmsBp8HhIyn/JQ7PENAB3TZyARGYCzbGB/TMbSxQwHKnx32fBkCBF01jWtQ=; iSfTs9ycp1Z6YDx3NH9hN Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:39:08 PST CkFzIGZhciBhIGNvaWwgb3ZlcnMgb24gdGhlIHJlYXIgb2YgYSBHVDY_IEknbSBub3QgYW4gZW5naW5lZXIgYnV5IG9uIHRoZSBNS0lJIAphbmQgTUtJSUkgdGhlIHNob2NrIHRvd2VyZSBpcyBvbiB0aGUgaW5zaWRlIG9mIHRoZSB3aGVlbCB3ZWxsLi4uIEkgZG9uJ3QgdGhpbmsgCnRoZXJlIGlzIGVub3VnaCBjbGVhcmFuY2Ugd2l0aG91dCBtYWpvciBtb2RpZmljYXRpb24gdG8gdGhlIHdoZWVsIHdlbGwgdG8gYWRhcHQgCmEgbW91bnRpbmcgcG9pbnQuCkkgYmVsaWV2ZSB0aGUgTUtJIHVzZWQgYSBzaG9jayABMAEBAQE- References: <95ACF40F-6A75-403D-839A-160DBFE11C14@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:39:08 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Christopher Bock Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As far a coil overs on the rear of a GT6? I'm not an engineer buy on the MKII and MKIII the shock towere is on the inside of the wheel well... I don't think there is enough clearance without major modification to the wheel well to adapt a mounting point. I believe the MKI used a shock mount that mounted somewhat to the frame inside the back of the wheel well... I think there is a modification that I bought from Rimmer Brothers a few years ago to attempt this type of mod... it went back and forth with them because there was a bushing size issue or a clearance type issue... they finally refunded the whole purchase price without asking for the bits and pieces back... maybe a few years later (I haven't looked) they got the specifics right.... Bobby ________________________________ From: Christopher Bock To: Vince G Cc: FOT List Sent: Wed, December 19, 2012 10:52:37 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear I did see the conversion from PRI. It looks sweet and cool. If I had the green I would go for it. But... What about using coil overs and just a single leaf. Use the coil over to do the ride hight and ride control and let the leaf do the suspension geometry movements. Any thoughts on how that might work? Isn't there a picture and a small comment about this in one of Kas books? Chris On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Vince G wrote: > Charles, there are some set ups out there for the GT6 if you want a completely > new/more modern set up. I think PRI sells what looks like a good conversion. > > Im on a budget so I took the 15 dollar route and simply added a helper spring > to the top of the tired old transverse leaf stack. I bought a 2000# trailer > spring at princess auto, used the longest leaf, de-arched it to achieve a > lower ride height and slipped it under the top plate that bolts down onto leaf > set up. It was simple, cheap and easy to install and works really well. It's > nice that I didn't even have to pull the main leaf out in order to do this and > could out the helper easily and adjust the arch if need be. > > I left in the rotoflex setup and run on performance street tires. I figure I'm > less likely to break a hub or axle that way but that's just my opinion. When > I have a few grand to blow I may do the rear conversion. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2012-12-19, at 9:05 AM, "Charles WATSON" wrote: > >> Friends: >> >> I see a lot of folks in various marquees (including Triumphs) using > coil-over >> shocks in the rear to supplement a tired leaf-spring. I noticed Ratco is >> selling this as an upgrade to the TR suspension. My question, especially > with >> regard to a rotoflex axle in my GT6 is, why not? >> >> benefits seem to be: >> - spring travels same path as shock >> - easily adjustable spring rate and height >> >> downsides: >> - possible space limitations (probably avoidable when going from donut to > CV) >> - what am I missing??? >> >> If you're redoing the entire suspension anyway, is this not a good way to > go? >> And if not, has anyone tried the composite "leaf" springs and saved the > 40-50 >> lbs of steel? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck Watson >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 08:46:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D738240544 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:46:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5384043A for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:45:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.68]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6EE851C00009D; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (adsl-75-3-205-242.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net [75.3.205.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 90B67E0000EA; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:44:26 -0500 (EST) References: <95ACF40F-6A75-403D-839A-160DBFE11C14@aol.com> <1356017948.94522.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Chuck Gee Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:44:24 -0800 To: Bobby Whitehead x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356018267; bh=e1wUOq2l2zcpaNPpjoL/srwZ3EYt2Gp6PWBeALNsM28=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=PDPEcv6gXrIqUALvroR3OIko7F2sCkeOiP0qIQGcOTRy8rEAShCMD0vGwch8tVik5 eI3gtMK8DQ8M596kby4985np6rkPMsWFgfDvrqbfp86ZkLnqDW9UxHQCc3lqOYt47/ 8ouTIbgm1V4rS4G4L/rwWwjOx0DZ2IKfbFzchxLI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294450d332596e6e Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just use the Spitfire mounting points to get the clearance. You might need to find the brackets that mount to the frame. Chuck On Dec 20, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > As far a coil overs on the rear of a GT6? I'm not an engineer buy on the MKII > and MKIII the shock towere is on the inside of the wheel well... I don't think > there is enough clearance without major modification to the wheel well to adapt > a mounting point. > I believe the MKI used a shock mount that mounted somewhat to the frame inside > the back of the wheel well... I think there is a modification that I bought from > Rimmer Brothers a few years ago to attempt this type of mod... it went back and > forth with them because there was a bushing size issue or a clearance type > issue... they finally refunded the whole purchase price without asking for the > bits and pieces back... maybe a few years later (I haven't looked) they got the > specifics right.... > > Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Christopher Bock > To: Vince G > Cc: FOT List > Sent: Wed, December 19, 2012 10:52:37 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear > > I did see the conversion from PRI. It looks sweet and cool. If I had the > green I would go for it. > > But... > > What about using coil overs and just a single leaf. Use the coil over to do > the ride hight and ride control and let the leaf do the suspension geometry > movements. > > Any thoughts on how that might work? > > Isn't there a picture and a small comment about this in one of Kas books? > > Chris > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Vince G wrote: > >> Charles, there are some set ups out there for the GT6 if you want a > completely >> new/more modern set up. I think PRI sells what looks like a good > conversion. >> >> Im on a budget so I took the 15 dollar route and simply added a helper > spring >> to the top of the tired old transverse leaf stack. I bought a 2000# trailer >> spring at princess auto, used the longest leaf, de-arched it to achieve a >> lower ride height and slipped it under the top plate that bolts down onto > leaf >> set up. It was simple, cheap and easy to install and works really well. > It's >> nice that I didn't even have to pull the main leaf out in order to do this > and >> could out the helper easily and adjust the arch if need be. >> >> I left in the rotoflex setup and run on performance street tires. I figure > I'm >> less likely to break a hub or axle that way but that's just my opinion. > When >> I have a few grand to blow I may do the rear conversion. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2012-12-19, at 9:05 AM, "Charles WATSON" wrote: >> >>> Friends: >>> >>> I see a lot of folks in various marquees (including Triumphs) using >> coil-over >>> shocks in the rear to supplement a tired leaf-spring. I noticed Ratco is >>> selling this as an upgrade to the TR suspension. My question, especially >> with >>> regard to a rotoflex axle in my GT6 is, why not? >>> >>> benefits seem to be: >>> - spring travels same path as shock >>> - easily adjustable spring rate and height >>> >>> downsides: >>> - possible space limitations (probably avoidable when going from donut to >> CV) >>> - what am I missing??? >>> >>> If you're redoing the entire suspension anyway, is this not a good way to >> go? >>> And if not, has anyone tried the composite "leaf" springs and saved the >> 40-50 >>> lbs of steel? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Chuck Watson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 08:53:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A0240542 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:53:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1839740445 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:53:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:52:10 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Chuck Gee' , 'Bobby Whitehead' Thread-Topic: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Thread-Index: AQHN3fH1EVoo5lh59kKhcXqwgTmS/Zggm50AgAAeeQCAAX7nAIAAAXkA//+cOjA= Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:52:09 +0000 References: <95ACF40F-6A75-403D-839A-160DBFE11C14@aol.com> <1356017948.94522.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: 'FoT Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I feel sure Joe Curry will chime in here, but some part of that solution might be what's available on his web page. http://spitlist.info/Shock.Mounts.htm No provision for coil-overs there, though there might be enough space with street tires. For my street GT6, I've been contemplating this issue. The rear spring needs replacing - again. I've owned the car for 16 years and I've replaced the spring at least twice, maybe three times already. Gotta go for one of those composite springs this time, or some sort of coil-over solution. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Gee Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:44 AM To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil Overs at the Rear Just use the Spitfire mounting points to get the clearance. You might need to find the brackets that mount to the frame. Chuck _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 09:22:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7113340655 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:22:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm27.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm27.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BC740445 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:21:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm27.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 16:07:10 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.96] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 16:07:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2012 16:07:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 63098 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Dec 2012 16:07:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356019629; bh=BZllER7o3v+S/M3WghHjLe3HhVtriOZUXFPxNP5WAzU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DZj8gyl7MgYl4VRNJZ+/DWkTx9H5OFxOBIKZwMJujmvU8qHdMsWAZPAkOWk0W+MWqEo+K1l/ELlgK1cExQuh5kBmrszRROpxq3sYViHlliGgDCNUxrSvhj/si6MANaeJ1EcBJr/SV9IP6hQDMcRj17KifCWzwwK9MF6eyn3UeHk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wwcR44jr0+6r51ZWXFSiCO2WC6xmnw1eCGbaLqIJJeX8TzgZwmbTyXzbFnxTBcZ1EhYjHNnIN2K7kGvzq/NYYV1WM5pd7xHGepBsSUEd0xEQOgLWD9geA2HN+8H8aTlYiujaFjTwWsbyAXzLz/v3qSCsmuRoCRPlP91iHaYqdI4=; IcoqwBflJavOvfjnC02LNL9Eg483gmxGu0oD0d6ogtNZS.LtwnYcMZTSkAIj 7vdcQgSG9mONfpXElOAlN44_8YlMPMLOUBQdaC05Navftm91pqeyeQoVFfjG ZppKUgHEQnfaLt2fc1wYJEnepeoxaY8frkQb4Dh78ImDXkn_mOJjkcbKAMa5 WaVYnCSO9wlMzRXazMwUJs_esd78bFfWe9dzLIPRdItErhqvTPy7mGFGrvsI rMbff0l6qrS8ixPZSFriQqelnOVasFIESve1SOm5YRFgxroGdNCWJqDjl1az H9nK.gkMcaL7xsyh_q6WJNFPPU97TdPgyOsnmmP9ehwhN_0BGjD1vDzAT0iR 6XbV.wzrJ2q8Xnq3iCuRRddGBaWVwev775GdzMgUUrLW9z7mAbqs_CVRhnF4 DO8pAxcP1IZUsE540._WqjTS81_sIxYe6fDzPaETp.M7xTjlIT406n_hdAyk w62PsjqiPhTJw4BpSJxlPE1HDfHjbSRxRuk8K3IzCLGMVo1euugE2PvvYJzm ZzVDKWNmu1rtRPECD03W3an_6oApspogyVDR9HEgfYSKWaqSyRBFKzHnyJdc BrGxQ_r0m Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:07:09 PST SSd2ZSBnb3QgYSBiZWF1dGlmdWwgYmxvY2sgd2l0aCBpbnRlcm5hbCBtb2RpZmllZCB2ZW50aWxhdGlvbi4uLi4gaG93IGFib3V0IAp0aGF0PwoKaGUsIHdlIGNhbid0IGJlYXQgb3Vyc2VsdmVzIHVwIHRvbyBtdWNoLi4uIG15IGZyaWVuZCBMb3UgTWVyY2hhbnQgYnVpbHQgYSAKYmVhdXRpZnVsIE1HQSBmb3IgaGVyIGRhdWdodGVyIHRvIHJ1bi4uLnRocmVlIHdlZWtlbmRzIGFuZCBhIGJsb2NrICd2ZW50aWxhdGVkJyAKb24gYm90aCBzaWRlIHdpdGggaG9sZXMgbGFyZ2UgZW5vdWdoIHRvIGZpdCBhIGZpc3QBMAEBAQE- References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net> <61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:07:09 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: yellow04@tr4racer.com Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a beautiful block with internal modified ventilation.... how about that? he, we can't beat ourselves up too much... my friend Lou Merchant built a beautiful MGA for her daughter to run...three weekends and a block 'ventilated' on both side with holes large enough to fit a fist through... so.. it's not all Triumphs!! there... Merry Christmas ya'll! Bobby ________________________________ From: "yellow04@tr4racer.com" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, December 19, 2012 6:47:25 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that we Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared to other marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not believe perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee F. My vote is we do something for them. Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.C. Hassall" To: "Doug Mitchell" Cc: "fot" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > Burt said: > Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany > of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). > I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you > still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating > members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole > through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... > Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much > appreciated! > > I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we > should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. > Ideas? Henry, what do you think? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 09:35:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264BD40543 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:35:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA54B40515 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:35:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qBKGXQAE019343; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:33:31 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net><61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local> <1356019629.62870.YahooMailRC@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:33:26 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3ezgYQdkUbPdsTSsWNi2XRumJWEgAAZR+A a=NUGIRaWBs6sA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=879b_Iw0AAAA:8 a=qH0YNQDRAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=DEhA6RJRAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=SopS9fmgh7Ad1JcK17oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=NFoOD0uOaO8A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=1QNhSFbQkrsA:10 a=erhHHfXf-WMA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=CR3w1gxXav0wIg95:21 a=XaixJSIiQ5l4800l:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: 'FoT Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can contribute a 4 block ventilated on both sides John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. 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I've got a beautiful block with internal modified ventilation.... how about that? he, we can't beat ourselves up too much... my friend Lou Merchant built a beautiful MGA for her daughter to run...three weekends and a block 'ventilated' on both side with holes large enough to fit a fist through... so.. it's not all Triumphs!! there... Merry Christmas ya'll! Bobby ________________________________ From: "yellow04@tr4racer.com" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, December 19, 2012 6:47:25 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that we Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared to other marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not believe perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee F. My vote is we do something for them. Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.C. Hassall" To: "Doug Mitchell" Cc: "fot" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > Burt said: > Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany > of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). > I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you > still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating > members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole > through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... > Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much > appreciated! > > I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we > should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. > Ideas? Henry, what do you think? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 09:39:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75ACC4052B for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:39:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com (e8.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B1940454 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:39:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from /spool/local by e8.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Violators will be prosecuted; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:37:51 -0500 Received: from d01relay07.pok.ibm.com (d01relay07.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.147]) by d01dlp03.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFFCC9004A for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay07.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id qBKGbeb140763510 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:37:43 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id qBKGbdeB005216 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:37:39 -0200 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id qBKGbde2005175 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:37:39 -0200 References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:37:32 -0500 ZX853FP2HF2|October 8, 2012) at 12/20/2012 11:37:38 x-cbid: 12122016-9360-0000-0000-00000E356C9C Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 73, Issue 41-Coil Overs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My sons street use 1500 Spit has Monroe Coil over shock booster springs along with the stock leaf spring. The sag is gone, it feels pretty firm and I don't see any clearance issues, but it's obviously not a Rotoflex. I don't know yet how well it works, we bought the car like that and took to get painted last weekend. mike G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 09:49:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530484055C for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:49:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout18.eigbox.net (bosmailout18.eigbox.net [66.96.189.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBE040515 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:49:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan09.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.9]) by bosmailout18.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1TljI3-0007uN-3g for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:48:11 -0500 Received: from bosimpout02.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.2]) by bosmailscan09.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1TljI2-000887-Dr for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:48:10 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp13.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.13]) by bosimpout02.eigbox.net with NO UCE id dsoA1k00D0GvDVm01soAY0; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:48:10 -0500 a=ZP/C8iKN44S7o9el8de7CQ==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=rW2thZxuidoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=13kKwZo5zi4A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Ca2WVT1dpSp-bd5hXpkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=UH8/iCWBfdUmbm4Ft4Vi3Q==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-90-53.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.90.53] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp13.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1TljI2-0001Ay-0w for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:48:10 -0500 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:47:59 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3e0GfST1JCa++mTPiTWYFXWi+PNwAAMqtQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 73, Issue 41-Coil Overs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have the same set up on my street Spit 1500. It works great and is the perfect balance for street and AutoX. If the rear end sits too high you can trim the coil to adjust the height. At something like $60 a pair [Autozone] it is also a sweet deal. Robert MacKenzie Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Harmuth Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:38 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 73, Issue 41-Coil Overs My sons street use 1500 Spit has Monroe Coil over shock booster springs along with the stock leaf spring. The sag is gone, it feels pretty firm and I don't see any clearance issues, but it's obviously not a Rotoflex. I don't know yet how well it works, we bought the car like that and took to get painted last weekend. mike G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 11:13:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1584052D for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:13:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA1E40519 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:13:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id dosQ1k0081zF43QA1uByA4; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:11:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.72] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id duBw1k00W4L5TyG8kuBxRT; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:11:58 +0000 From: Bud R To: "fot@autox.team.net List" Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:11:56 -0700 s=q20121106; t=1356027118; bh=MYnWBvvU/81GJGkNO12u42hy0PiRDvbrLHb+SCmReRQ=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=odtzEvBtbz2zBGZuppNOua9YkWIem/BsLYeDgdi5oPM/3sKx9vDPS0SnMHVebldug yggYhck1Vf3Pmm9mLFe8Z7zlGyVviNxrLavEL5ZSKDTFTIWPMu9rRDXt1mmBcOl0qa ImrHZho/ZEcRpXWvCozi7CNOHs17RLU0dfKItOCouXumr2nN1A3u2Fnawlo1pRlZlM IZqlqV0W10W6uSaq950VRbBhm3zZOlgc8kOKi3Rud3tjLpnblWKynQXQfynQ/6Zk9T iZRv0XIBEJyYsDWVRcOm/Gr2drZrC/ZM9paur0kdWPUnEJ9lN98RA3bqxmmfxpQFLV Z9ZDTZiNiGN2A== Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Large Bearing Crank - Small Bearing Crank? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is it possible to tell if a crank is a large bearing crank or a small bearing crank from just looking at it from the outside and still in the car? The PO couldn't really tell me much about the bottom end of the engine now in my Spit so until I pull this engine I may just have to be curious. Have any of you had a large bearing Spitfire crank modified per Kas's example in the Triumph Prep. Handbook? I believe Dan Hall Machine Inc. in Portland is still around but was wondering if there were other machine shops who the list may have used for the cross drilling, etc. of a large bearing crank. Thanks Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 12:49:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681C04055C for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:49:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E92403A6 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:45:48 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=Gp7UdYsTwp8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=4qZAJxpBKPYA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=EIm9VOIP1uM02dymBegA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Rn0acQy07QIa-3V9:21 a=jOnMQmtbS3JVRdvp:21 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:55147] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C9/78-15459-29A63D05; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:44:19 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , "'Bud R'" Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:45:41 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3e3ZhshJThulUCRjOxiQLhywcMlwADETrwAAArQ6A= Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Large Bearing Crank - Small Bearing Crank? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The size of the crank pulley is larger on the later Spit (large crank) as is the securing nut. The easiest way is to look at the engine number. The small crank engines were all FD or FE prefix while the large crank 1296 engines were FK. The 1500 engines were FM prefix. These appear on a tab of casting on the left rear of the block where it meets with the head. Just to make it interesting, the 1147 engine can have it's crank used in a small crank 1296 (FE or FD) by installing a speedy sleeve on the sealing area in the rear. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud R Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:12 PM To: fot@autox.team.net List Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Large Bearing Crank - Small Bearing Crank? Is it possible to tell if a crank is a large bearing crank or a small bearing crank from just looking at it from the outside and still in the car? The PO couldn't really tell me much about the bottom end of the engine now in my Spit so until I pull this engine I may just have to be curious. Have any of you had a large bearing Spitfire crank modified per Kas's example in the Triumph Prep. Handbook? I believe Dan Hall Machine Inc. in Portland is still around but was wondering if there were other machine shops who the list may have used for the cross drilling, etc. of a large bearing crank. Thanks Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 14:07:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B5740532 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:07:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s3.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s3.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F694052D; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:07:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W7 ([65.55.90.9]) by snt0-omc1-s3.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:05:40 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: Chuck Arnold , richard lang , fot Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:05:39 +0000 References: <010601cdde59$eeca8dc0$cc5fa940$@asmoothmove.biz>, , , , FILETIME=[C4041C90:01CDDEF5] Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net, rsh17@msn.com Subject: Re: [Fot] [6pack] Connecting Rods with Relief Holes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net All the engines done at the USA Competition Department were with accessories which included water pump and alternator or generator. the same at the factory, but open exhaust with no silencing. The SAE correction factor was and is used by most to compensate for the change in temperature, humidity and barometric pressure. SAE power in DETROIT was always LESS accessories (at least back in the old days). The BHP number I quote is at the FLYWHEEL on the engine dyno. Mysterious things happen to it after that position :-) All of my engines for the Triumph cars used the stock rods modified as I have written. No others were legal under the regulations of 1972 and earlier. My TR-6 engines made 133-138 regularly with 13.0 compression ratio or slightly less as we only had 100 octane gasoline not the present day 110+ race fuel. Making 200 BHP out of the TR-6 engine should be a walk in the park. I did use increased torque values on both the con rods and the mains to stop the caps from fretting. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:35:34 -0800 > From: triosan@gmail.com > To: lang@isis.mit.edu; fot@autox.team.net > CC: 6pack@autox.team.net; rsh17@msn.com > Subject: Re: [Fot] [6pack] Connecting Rods with Relief Holes > > Added FOT to this string -- sorry for those it is a duplicate. Wanted to > try to equate the hp number I just got of by car from a DynoJet chassis > dyno with the numbers from "back in the day". > > Found a great article at : > http://www.hardtail.com/techtips/hpexplained.html > > to net it out, as it were: > HP before 1972 in US was a gross figure -- engine dyno, no accessories. > After 72 SAE HP is engine with accessories -- about a 20% parasitic loss > (net SAE) > When you factor in rear wheel through drive train with a standard tranny > you lose 15% more. > > My racing TR6 was measured at 172 on the dyno [and running rich] with PI, > hottest cam I can get, lots of head work and a Pacesetter exhaust maifold > to 2.5" pipe with racing muffler [am putting in a Goodparts header before > racing next year]. Using .15 for parasitic loss instead of .2, I get about > 202 SAE Net HP and a wopping 238 using 1970 gross SAE values. I seem to > recall in one of KAS books they were getting around 240 HP on the engines > -- and there gross versus net were probably the same as thee were no > "accessories" on the race engine. That seems about right also -- I should > pick up some HP with the header and leaning it out and I run about 12.5:1 > compression. Think Kas was around 14:1. > > > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Richard Seaton wrote: > > > > I'd suggest,If not going over 150hp, then the stock rods will be fine. > >> > > > > Don't forget the factory CP cars were 150 HP in stock form. > > > > I thought I read the late rods were better??? I must be mistaken. > >> > > > > I've had some lengthy discussions with JK Jackson about this and he was, > > adamant that early rods are the better choice. > > > > I believe the reason that the early rods are better is that they don't > > start out with a huge stress riser drilled into the rod at the spot where > > the stresses all converge. > > > > But I've been wrong before. > > > > ;-) > > > > rml > > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > > --------------- > > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > > Former NER Solo Chair | > > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > > --------------- > > > > ______________________________**__________ > > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/6pack/triosan@gmail.* > > *com > > > > > > > > > -- > Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 19:23:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8254054C for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:23:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6242040541 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:22:43 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=Weimz97nyGnQLpLUuNS5TQ==:17 a=X47WscqO7wcA:10 a=1hG2i44nH4kA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=eCFddR0XSXAA:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=E0zf4LHEa9hQf392c8YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=Weimz97nyGnQLpLUuNS5TQ==:117 Received: from [166.137.120.141] ([166.137.120.141:50276] helo=[10.195.81.134]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 63/0E-29976-897C3D05; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 02:21:12 +0000 References: <009b01cddd82$8d94ab30$a8be0190$@att.net> From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:21:07 -0600 To: "mhado@att.net" Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know about the Helicoil option. You might be able to convert the "hole" to a short stud with a Helicoil but it may stress the block improperly. FWIW I took apart one block that had a long stud drilled and tapped at the bottom through the block and locked in place that way. It was also drilled for a set screw from the side. It wasn't a running engine but it looked like it had worked. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2012, at 6:48 PM, "M&M Hado" wrote: > I was just finishing up a TR2 engine rebuild and one of the 9.5" studs > stripped the threads in the block at the bottom of the 4" hole when I got to > about 70 ft-lb. Has anyone successfully put a HeliCoil at the bottom of > this hole? > > The original size of the hole in the block is about 17/32" (just enough to > accommodate the 1/2" stud, of course) and this happens to be the tap drill > size for the 1/2-13 HeliCoil. The OD of the HeliCoil itself is about .615" > so that means I would have to drill out the hole in the block to something > larger than this - say 5/8" and save about an inch at the bottom for tapping > for the HeliCoil. I'm wondering if there is enough meat in the block to > drill out the hole to 5/8". > > Having gone this far, I really would like to save this block so any > ideas/hints/experience would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Mike Hado > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 20:36:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9C44055D for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:36:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm27.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm27.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5808740542 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:36:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Dec 2012 03:34:52 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.204] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Dec 2012 03:34:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Dec 2012 03:34:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356060892; bh=C9wCzsGbh9lVR7iL1H9WO3Hf2zGaeIkvS1auZorblM0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Organization:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=nukO6WXntlECKVDNmpaNBuvYNuYCpF3ppf+KePjZx7A7WQWGgehAivubLufqgbWAIPbP8QfPekMqOI2JGuEWwbKJxHw4vrbxKfs106nWaMu/EFImCBh0yq2+RNGsw+VWug7C5+K75nZ+OjMhZfjX4RW/EM9ZtMCyuyQOIv/Efu8= AJMa4U77wr2hsq0nr34P.YPewQkay8LKZmh5I8lZWOo57fAHgzZ4pdeQAs.7 fQwKyVlvVWRmmq0_32YHbgNB.qL2Thqgjj.XCzFzmvYsh44eKmAy3VxwAWJm nTt8ZAsNj6.gXXrDCUi4wJrx2_ffZMeh0SvRKViXciF9YgVoJRHJuWTEPNlT EyWOrpb_oXZDwimXjSVx53keENlhsoTR5n4504xh7ncLf2S72kFS9hf1SdvL _0HAjYoouksl2iJUFANnzTNNGchrV5rm5UTqG_8b8OhC.P17kJ6xn.kbX_UX 8QKYBK_sLnfSk.8Ia5DboYgsdVL45ev1lXxoJaK4fDub551k0yNfRhzl_9ag H0rus5Zm1ceM8v81fJF6NuGOleSEySVIjiT.kDlAUv736qmf8BEuNKVFFplK kaYjYVarU0XYF_X5NEXcYtkxUa8H2j1JMxgT8DhDMSVvZ3oQ- Received: from HadoLaptop (mhado@108.93.117.23 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2012 19:34:52 -0800 PST From: "M&M Hado" To: "'Bob Kramer'" References: <009b01cddd82$8d94ab30$a8be0190$@att.net> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:34:50 -0600 Organization: M&M Hado Thread-Index: AQNQWNc+49tIundj2jxs5SvGtTEVzAI1VCHblQv6HaA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Bob. I have decided to put the HeliCoil at the top of the hole and use a short stud. The existing hole is already the exact size for the HeliCoil tap so the installation was easy. I torqued it up and looks to be OK, so I'm hoping for the best with no resulting block stresses that will cause problems. The owner does not stress the car. Thanks for your suggestions. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Bob Kramer [mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:21 PM To: mhado@att.net Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs I don't know about the Helicoil option. You might be able to convert the "hole" to a short stud with a Helicoil but it may stress the block improperly. FWIW I took apart one block that had a long stud drilled and tapped at the bottom through the block and locked in place that way. It was also drilled for a set screw from the side. It wasn't a running engine but it looked like it had worked. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2012, at 6:48 PM, "M&M Hado" wrote: > I was just finishing up a TR2 engine rebuild and one of the 9.5" studs > stripped the threads in the block at the bottom of the 4" hole when I > got to about 70 ft-lb. Has anyone successfully put a HeliCoil at the > bottom of this hole? > > The original size of the hole in the block is about 17/32" (just > enough to accommodate the 1/2" stud, of course) and this happens to be > the tap drill size for the 1/2-13 HeliCoil. The OD of the HeliCoil itself is about .615" > so that means I would have to drill out the hole in the block to > something larger than this - say 5/8" and save about an inch at the > bottom for tapping for the HeliCoil. I'm wondering if there is enough > meat in the block to drill out the hole to 5/8". > > Having gone this far, I really would like to save this block so any > ideas/hints/experience would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Mike Hado > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 20 21:16:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74274055C for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:16:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DC940533 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:16:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4218F1C000047 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-deb001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-deb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.129]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1E2FAE000082 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:15:17 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m185.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.142) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:15:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:15:17 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356063317; bh=t81uWIHO2HYhWWc3xIOTDE5hqUDOEerzosead6yrxrc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Io2p0QzscUU9bZOaDx1XjAPUped7L1TR6MXmP+53oQNMSyL9rtWOC3TIATLHIieMB 6rvW2UCl/y14pn8q1u0x0SOBDQ5ac8rw8OD4SOIlt4fnQkSdAGFr2Sw83ZDU3BAmyw Ym/7qVAFFrz1weqrVLbnmTQA0LsAYve7bWO3feJQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d50d3e2551604 Subject: [Fot] Composite Spring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ooops ! Someone on here asked about manufacturer of composite leaf springs. I bought mine from Flex-A-Form ( 864-261-7006 ) was just over $300. Mine is for my Spit GT its super light and is rated at 250 lb. I believe some one on the list had one for sale awhile back. Cheers & good luck, Bob T. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 05:38:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101214065B for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 05:38:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f42.google.com (mail-bk0-f42.google.com [209.85.214.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9803640396 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 05:38:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f42.google.com with SMTP id ji2so2347486bkc.1 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 04:36:46 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=74n3ZFcjSGV592E2LJwCr4iN6dHfonv4KNvYrQ3CqF0=; b=MgYVe/WlqoJDiTXuglGWZ5PCpdKMtHE/iR/Phws3hnxa2eljWXAyOxbV0AJ2iXxAHD K4F5m8EZEzUp1OSsPeZKG0jsqSGTvgPbn3ksYV/RgbwXK4ZxP+R6zuwQ09aiAf+IVtOH R4IgQik3INX4h/o5ttGgvGd73klFx7wVRh51weaAqBA4083cMIZhHPMmCE0dDQ0rvYuk YrGxItyC4jBuP4Gxs2xDWcp63n+08xXAJc8u0ToPwtDDjGbag2znATwA7Zk65Ct6jGbt bkd02ZYxrxzpVL1+0T1rzMX7jtiy88+2LkQrt4JAbDv9SahrBxNrP6R8lOSVzlglxN1j VrRQ== j19mr6340789bkj.96.1356093405640; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 04:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([31.212.198.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8sm9792160bku.6.2012.12.21.04.36.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 04:36:44 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <009b01cddd82$8d94ab30$a8be0190$@att.net> <00ef01cddf2c$226b39e0$6741ada0$@att.net> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:36:41 +0100 Thread-Index: AQNQWNc+49tIundj2jxs5SvGtTEVzAI1VCHblQv6HaCAAJMwoA== Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If that would be good to set the bolt upstairs to the block to the factory would have done it back in the days - shorter bolts are cheaper ;-) I once did cure the problem this way. I drilled out the hole to fit a M18 sleeve. The inside was prepared for the stud to fit down in the block. The outside was fitted with the M18 thread over the whole length. The sleeve was run in with epoxy and the little protrusion was removed very gently with a fine file. Example for a short sleeve: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Mc_c4IxD4NY/UNRWKwzstaI/AAAAAAAABk4/cEYb7 NrE2as/s985/DSCN1569.JPG -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von M&M Hado Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Dezember 2012 04:35 An: 'Bob Kramer' Cc: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Thanks, Bob. I have decided to put the HeliCoil at the top of the hole and use a short stud. The existing hole is already the exact size for the HeliCoil tap so the installation was easy. I torqued it up and looks to be OK, so I'm hoping for the best with no resulting block stresses that will cause problems. The owner does not stress the car. Thanks for your suggestions. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Bob Kramer [mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:21 PM To: mhado@att.net Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs I don't know about the Helicoil option. You might be able to convert the "hole" to a short stud with a Helicoil but it may stress the block improperly. FWIW I took apart one block that had a long stud drilled and tapped at the bottom through the block and locked in place that way. It was also drilled for a set screw from the side. It wasn't a running engine but it looked like it had worked. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2012, at 6:48 PM, "M&M Hado" wrote: > I was just finishing up a TR2 engine rebuild and one of the 9.5" studs > stripped the threads in the block at the bottom of the 4" hole when I > got to about 70 ft-lb. Has anyone successfully put a HeliCoil at the > bottom of this hole? > > The original size of the hole in the block is about 17/32" (just > enough to accommodate the 1/2" stud, of course) and this happens to be > the tap drill size for the 1/2-13 HeliCoil. The OD of the HeliCoil > itself is about .615" > so that means I would have to drill out the hole in the block to > something larger than this - say 5/8" and save about an inch at the > bottom for tapping for the HeliCoil. I'm wondering if there is enough > meat in the block to drill out the hole to 5/8". > > Having gone this far, I really would like to save this block so any > ideas/hints/experience would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Mike Hado > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 08:27:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E8A40E1C for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:27:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp650.redcondor.net (smtp650.redcondor.net [208.80.206.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7264064C for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:26:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.73]) by smtp650.redcondor.net ({9ef01f99-b982-4add-83fd-b7c41c74273c}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20121221152514549; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:25:14 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 455508057; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:25:03 -0600 From: To: "john hasty" , "'Bobby Whitehead'" , References: <50D1E3C3.1010708@blacksburg.net><61B0E7A80C5C4C4199FB57F456EEABE8@TRIUMPH.local><1356019629.62870.YahooMailRC@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7440D8C9B7264E348EE68EFB9862EE7F@gdhs.local> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:24:54 -0600 Cc: 'FoT Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net sadly, I can contribute a beautifully ventilated 86mm venolia piston. upside: it is easy to move around art de armond -----Original Message----- From: john hasty Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:33 AM To: 'Bobby Whitehead' ; yellow04@tr4racer.com Cc: 'FoT Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? I can contribute a 4 block ventilated on both sides John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. 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IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:07 AM To: yellow04@tr4racer.com Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? I've got a beautiful block with internal modified ventilation.... how about that? he, we can't beat ourselves up too much... my friend Lou Merchant built a beautiful MGA for her daughter to run...three weekends and a block 'ventilated' on both side with holes large enough to fit a fist through... so.. it's not all Triumphs!! there... Merry Christmas ya'll! Bobby ________________________________ From: "yellow04@tr4racer.com" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, December 19, 2012 6:47:25 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? What I think is this. Burt is trying to find humor in the fact that we Triumph racers suffer a disproportional amount of DNF's compared to other marques. While there may be some truth to this, I do not believe perpetuating this thought in Burt's book does us any favors. We have lost some amazing wrenches recently, Jimmy Coan and Lankee F. My vote is we do something for them. Or we do a collage of Kastner Cup winners and cars. Or anything but a picture of a ventilated block, especially mine! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.C. Hassall" To: "Doug Mitchell" Cc: "fot" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Another sponsorship for Levy's next book? > Burt said: > Fortunately for you (?) I'm still writing the blessed thing (full litany > of excuses available athttp://www.lastopenroad.com/lameexcuses1.html). > I expect to be done in the spring and have it out early summer. So you > still have plenty of time to line up your suck...er, "participating > members" and pick a theme. A shot of Henry Frye's motor with the hole > through the side at The Mitty might be nice.... > Thanks for thinking of me (!!!!) and the participation by FOT is much > appreciated! > > I'm very pleasantly surprised at the commitment so far; so perhaps we > should start thinking of a theme for our "ad" if this goes forward. > Ideas? Henry, what do you think? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5972 - Release Date: 12/19/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 09:12:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBCA40E32 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:12:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3B9406B4 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:12:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E76D338000AC2 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.69]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 61CC6E00008C for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:09:17 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.34) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:09:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:09:17 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356106157; bh=7MdZC7wLizNs23n+hYHIuIUobWDrc6LNgrrGSwNg+ME=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Dpqp8GKJjH509/3gTHGzpJrpX9F0UQ7UNZ92/+tz5xRV75BKH6dp4WfS4wOoPLR56 OMnu7/ocr0ItJ099kNK6tgnjjz6SXsLJ1s9TAp3EufMux5nBD7dUW/Hc3vRW5FdMp6 Q0VY8E8HwZtzkjdxiWVCzyN5FAO5PAUTucYBbCb0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e50d489ad42d0 Subject: [Fot] PICTURES OF THE ICONIC ROAD AMERICA PAGODA SOUGHT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: I am looking for full frontal views of the old T & S PAGODA at ROAD AMERICA. Any offerings and sources would be greatly appreciated. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 11:19:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034BB40E40 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:19:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AF84069B for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:19:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 678591C000133 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.69]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id ADA18E000088 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:18:17 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.34) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:18:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:18:17 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356113898; bh=3LD8Ru3ueidKRgPRumbunXE8AaxBRrnMKYjlY3Z3O4s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zu7OSSBZCf1H3sQj0HH9tLPD4qYPrfjgkL0/j9f/hurR0dTIr6FzdAZ2rfsA1RHLK 0MHPIx+/NwYAnsVM2r2k6Ra8lpe4HVTA3dJoEHXPfSib2c34n+JIuenBrMWMwbkn3O KLrxt6K5K7i87xjVDGhpoCY4LZARmFDB0w6g0x2c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d50d4a7e913ee Subject: [Fot] PAGODA REQUEST THANKS...I think I have all I need for research Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 13:08:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9893F40E93 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:08:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f49.google.com (mail-oa0-f49.google.com [209.85.219.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A34040E1B for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:08:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id l10so5141136oag.36 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:06:38 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=RjKKC9ejaXKyREvHrUqBqcx47Zao4hZDhDONMc9LCrY=; b=jwyBVbqoJmlkv2qZ8f4O18qlOcNOen5pxgQmrzTHfhS75TcbpjwLK7v1EAyH9OWPGu O2kkXVInyNzqB79frbjLdjRKySccwK4hCZLCLCtd7z0kV9MGyX+hqLe1pGf9wSckP/Ig 69hZZwX29JwZeb53qQt9+JLMaV4JV4yVwTQ0ZBqdHiyO6GbQjhX2o2wKTj4lDGIxSj2n 32TtqNyge+pyEcM5AKVdFc1alRVD69AfDeVgNuBZAJKM1bekroMNBp7BSEa23OK2+h4K h3VDBW61yDIRpQol6Oifd0jowYeGyr7Q5Xu+yJXEAq6e6RSHgv9MidzghrFUIJoG8GEv j2Vg== Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b20sm8691597obu.4.2012.12.21.12.06.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:06:37 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:06:35 -0600 References: <009b01cddd82$8d94ab30$a8be0190$@att.net> <00ef01cddf2c$226b39e0$6741ada0$@att.net> <002701cddf77$d68cb3e0$83a61ba0$@com> To: "FOT@autox.team.net Triumph" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The factory did make them short -- on the Standard Vanguard engine that preceded the TR engine. Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 (had the Vanguard engine when new) On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:36 AM, MadMarx wrote: > If that would be good to set the bolt upstairs to the block to the factory > would have done it back in the days - shorter bolts are cheaper ;-) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 16:47:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FA740E5A for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:46:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A4B40E35 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:46:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id vb8so5067928obc.6 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:45:14 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=4lJxIxugzhytzYgvdlhkuzG2IzE+fR1eS+27ffOL5Bk=; b=I9Ci24hPoUsBuvXUloPq/ohXADlBghfPyycm7RhQxXTkL5OP/2SnO0Yx6+yHC9MkKs g6oTr9iolLC5apkdTUh7zpfbNZAHheQstWvZjTsYQQ3bUJR0/0S930Y2gq6eVMJdXTUQ RTk0yjnJCwo/TbctjCGG2KR2b1EZwHC4aw1sfme3pdvNiKMZ13c8xHM6JDfQEViSSbXO Jdd06lqdjvsFOd8nIQnpUZuD5L02gkE+J9HKTl17Z9wjIOfpDHvpyDt65lLOgd3utys9 6enighOpF403kydEHKml/nmHcwWJJhVug/jnqDPZCdPIh0gsdwtL0pOCjN5veAiRD3HN 9TQg== e4mr12461902obx.77.1356133514237; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id aw4sm9271204oec.9.2012.12.21.15.45.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:45:13 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:45:08 -0600 References: To: Randall Cc: "'FOT@autox.team.net Triumph'" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Standard Vanguard was 2088 cc's and power rating was 68 hp at 4300 rpm, whereas the 1990 cc TR2 engine (same stroke, 1mm smaller bore) produced 90 hp at 4800 rpm. I have read a story about Standard factory engineers visiting Australian David van Dal after getting wind of the level of power he claimed to have wrung out of the Standard Vanguard in his early Morgan Plus Four. Dubious at first, apparently they learned something from this innovative racer. I'm not sure about the stud diameter, but it seems likely they were upgraded too. Duncan On Dec 21, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Randall wrote: >> The factory did make them short -- on the Standard Vanguard >> engine that preceded the TR engine. > > Didn't it also use smaller studs, and make about half as much power? > > -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 18:44:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111E340695 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:44:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A451F40396 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:44:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.175] by nm38.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 01:43:08 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.114] by tm14.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 01:43:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 01:43:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 84503 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Dec 2012 01:43:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356140587; bh=slynDjxU+04yUreVfJHb8hMYXRUfQjlp1QFEdvFl8PU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=drSNcE/g4RFCvXgusGVfYHySENr6t2Uy7TMOuZcNfsm4BRLbnyhvyjME8MbYh3hEDU6xAxPQeLnD8W+TKxdSX6QH7+SbYhCsgF5LTpqzfMcNOsfkxWuwMKZagCXt/rgu90LVFtwe1Fwz2QiwvFW4CjQ+lHBifykXNuXC7H/tm7Y= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1nh0tMsj7KY4RTfySKirZVwla7eUClINdhQ939kj9YY9gALRf4TLytrKCNgcWQc4npDRUrkwL+pM1EZzqH7H7soicGEk0ujPNjgxgVU0evsG/J7MLWZjgVhrZ7CzZ7KdVjzV7wZD13mWLS9+55DSpWCwn5a5/SjtO0plb7VqVNY=; t3LXDUN2xMkEtKAOl4mADwdkQockHDVQCaQ66lQb9wrdF1Xd.Wc8rupUIcsa r6FyJXAaRvzT8aM7X6wxLH17q8hrMzQVfcgoEvgv6r2CKFKm97KQoGlJ2faQ oW9sH0EnQgJJFqe05RTutUebQQ7U2kjY_8H5ddgdK9OU2h3Xs6kkWvp_QpTJ jRtBLC06bTKxNNdjaKup.KSJk6JIDnyvRw.pRhswYClxfc.cN1GD5EWGGFd4 yf15tmqZ7KmrLyedyLIYThfeqlbx29MYQ22xdmXY0nESuRcQzn7NiHWexYTt OjVKKpx79zy3JvX1vO.RjHSjhepRSv8gFBjNx5R2mPTUAa3BdP07CFQ95G3F abKlhR4uzj8GCV3njC_M4A9_ZLXiPTo8BYq8xswFuq2lTgDGpk3.l6q2kB5Q - Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:43:07 PST Sk9FIEEuIC4uLnlvdSBkYSBCT01CICEgdGhhbmtzIGZvciB0aGUgdmlkZW9zICEgCmhhdmVuJ3Qgd2F0Y2hlZCBUaGUgQm9tYiB5ZXQgYnV0IHlvdSBrbm93IHdoYXQ_IEkgZG8gZ2V0IHRvIHdhdGNoIHRoZSAKLT5DYWxpZm9ybmlhIEFpcjwtICB2aWRlbyBhZ2FpbiBhbmQgZnVydGhlciBub3RlLi4uIEknZCByYXRoZXIgcHVzaCBhIFRyaXVtcGggCnRoYW4gZHJpdmUgYSBDYWRpbGxhYy4uLiAgZXZlbiB0aG91Z2ggbXkgR1QtNisgaGFkIHNlbGYgdmVudGlsYXRlZCwgSSBoYXZlIGEgCnNpZ25lZCBUcml1bXABMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Joe Alexander Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] da bomb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net JOE A. ...you da BOMB ! thanks for the videos ! haven't watched The Bomb yet but you know what? I do get to watch the ->California Air<- video again and further note... I'd rather push a Triumph than drive a Cadillac... even though my GT-6+ had self ventilated, I have a signed Triumph by Kas Kastner on that video production... Kas, you and Peggy were so very gracious to me after I sought you out at the Mitty. My engine was blown and I asked you "should you sign it ready to push?" .. with a small thought you graciously responded and signed, "how about 'Racing Soon, Kas Kastner' ...a smiling memory for me for my lifetime ... How cool is that? I get all weepy and sappy around this time of year, as this year comes to close so here if you don't like the love.... Thank you all my friends with the love of Triumph's in your heart for being , dare I boast , one of us! Merry Christmas Ya'll ~! Love from Texas, Bobby _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 18:52:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E4A4064D for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:52:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3624055C for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:51:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AB5A12AD for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:50:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:50:35 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: FoT Triumph References: <1356140587.70090.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] da bomb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bobby Whitehead wrote: > Thank you all my friends with the love of Triumph's in your heart for being , > dare I boast , one of us! > Amen to that! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 18:53:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5A04069B for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:53:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378C740654 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:52:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4959DA12AD for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:52:05 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:52:05 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Out of town Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be in down in Orange County for a bit visiting family, so if the server blows up while I am gone I won't be able to do much. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 18:55:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0578A406AC for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:55:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6667940047 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:55:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eRJ41k0041u4NiLA1RtikF; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:53:42 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eRth1k00U2vctGa8hRthe7; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:53:42 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "FoT Triumph" References: <1356140587.70090.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50D511EB.8070001@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:53:40 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1356141222; bh=vF3y3k4KeM73/4TiGrKsv+mAmu5FQcsI4JfPN6DbJKY=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LjXOHvkTiM6eyLjjvTqZur+i8hjPn0VA1ewq1sP9zfXNAkdjsT7Ow1Vj2gmjR80E3 eJB6CuSj6MOPUzTXC5qWR6XOKBgBza/Ch/ovtX8C17hu55IqXKCaK5KgITSXVljfDq J8y9DpPQUzJz59nfZAjAhxAs15XI9vbSPmeX7CXCNrfAfITsqJ4Bof6Z1iKrIJ3avw GIgKlv79l+cKLhqIVFfB9DBmtr7nAx4bYoE/NY1QV/kwseVNnXheQ/cKvu2L5voKN6 CnrAKmbZk+XmMZY7gG/cVP1JaerafRxr2KTbSRjfOQtluAHsHM0a8r8nvWZA3gHOD7 ZL9AKwMvt/gmw== Subject: Re: [Fot] da bomb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Rock on Triumph owners!! Racer Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] da bomb > Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> Thank you all my friends with the love of Triumph's in your heart for >> being , >> dare I boast , one of us! >> > > Amen to that! > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 19:14:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59DA406AC for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:14:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6C04056A for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:14:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AA0001C00009A; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.69]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 481C8E000088; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:12:57 -0500 (EST) References: <1356140587.70090.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: igofaster@att.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com (205.188.255.5) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:12:57 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:12:57 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356142377; bh=YbTGb/Dg6WqubTyu+y3HUCRDl27ob4vvd5R6su87grU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t6c4F0Rd8j+TOufMbOhq+QpltyAn4LMxTi9QjB+/CVTRKCJDYgnknJPgMugjwCaq9 ufMEdraLLsqtU66e6zurZRIgvxmWDYPMB93CPpItggrHF5fmPMLNpmcZRcJtSLBdZw zjKBJpPuPWfBuAWTLbLAcrQ2zI1AtT/GrwsIFHxk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50d5172927c3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] da bomb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net no Bobby....you be "da BOMB......." Notes: KCUP 2013 looks like a record year for GT6 and Spitfire Entries. North American Spitfire Squadron is planning on making KCUP a regional meet. GT6 & Spitfire magazine will be there to do your stories and take your pictures. Bobby, bring your guitar and we will find electricity. Bring your CALIFORNIA AIR, too. John Clancy plans to be with us. He will sign it for you. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: Joe Alexander Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Fri, Dec 21, 2012 7:43 pm Subject: da bomb JOE A. ...you da BOMB ! thanks for the videos ! haven't watched The Bomb yet but you know what? I do get to watch the ->California Air<- video again and further note... I'd rather push a Triumph than drive a Cadillac... even though my GT-6+ had self ventilated, I have a signed Triumph by Kas Kastner on that video production... Kas, you and Peggy were so very gracious to me after I sought you out at the Mitty. My engine was blown and I asked you "should you sign it ready to push?" .. with a small thought you graciously responded and signed, "how about 'Racing Soon, Kas Kastner' ...a smiling memory for me for my lifetime ... How cool is that? I get all weepy and sappy around this time of year, as this year comes to close so here if you don't like the love.... Thank you all my friends with the love of Triumph's in your heart for being , dare I boast , one of us! Merry Christmas Ya'll ~! Love from Texas, Bobby _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 19:20:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D64D40E1A for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:20:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB10B4056A for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:20:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eRy51k0040bG4ec5FSJvhv; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:18:55 +0000 Received: from ComputerPC ([71.60.181.57]) by omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eSJv1k00W1EiJYf3PSJvol; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:18:55 +0000 From: "Stutzmans" To: "Duncan Charlton" , "FOT@autox.team.net Triumph" References: <009b01cddd82$8d94ab30$a8be0190$@att.net><00ef01cddf2c$226b39e0$6741ada0$@att.net><002701cddf77$d68cb3e0$83a61ba0$@com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:18:55 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1356142735; bh=myEa8aYst6j77i1J6yblw2cPGqUjcPWgQNzHDLs5PeM=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=QxLACGO8PqEBroNRahLIefsQ/R1vcoTAxmkVFvWNJXQf+A3qn+hWVANRWMImv0ZQk FrcOdU3iGiWkA+l5gI8iKj+i5uADzmOummuHaz3ejQao2XqzNBTkvuivqrwzVr4V2J hLfCQIw9rtLVlW2fuGhEHDc8qRPD+bBa83KBaZNclD6XGXNiYkW0BrqRKgzR3C+TCC L5myMRml7r19tszY3Zpo9ZkHMzG0QoUSgFsxwID8OwSZTiin/s7Opu2aQvjNuo/qox xy1Ixl916IRn+MAUOXS68p4k5WPF9crlBPvRvqhS6Zzm9Awcnr+2D5Sg63PC9zrZ1O ezqNL8JYo3BOQ== Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net One of the many modifications made when the 68 hp. Vangard engine was being modified for the 90 hp. TR2, was changing the block casting so longer studs could be screwed deeper into the block. The block was cracking at the original short stud holes. So, good luck Mike. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Charlton" To: "FOT@autox.team.net Triumph" Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs > The factory did make them short -- on the Standard Vanguard engine that > preceded the TR engine. > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 (had the Vanguard engine when new) > > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:36 AM, MadMarx wrote: > >> If that would be good to set the bolt upstairs to the block to the >> factory >> would have done it back in the days - shorter bolts are cheaper ;-) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 19:24:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDB94068E for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:24:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6D640395 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:23:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eKd51k03D1ZMdJ4A1SMSgA; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:21:26 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eSMQ1k00j2vctGa8cSMRjp; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:21:25 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:21:23 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1356142886; bh=f1WVH4uf7f1MdVywDjJrINKk9ROqzH7r5pDsxXdLej4=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S04CY15BisWQmlUdd45Mrw9pOpo0mp51OcC8PHC9ZrUnJDU/s1vpJyHo2Rdr9+7Gd XfZBzOUt8FYUeYBBxODcjz2pZL35m6jR0DY7GaNv6Pnv31l30/WuKGwC1szSfG4Ffz kUhbQO9T4Fnhnylz6gFtg0fkFo4rUuRkE8mgZnbG1ID6ZlinTzJEH2w9/Ukn9TfM21 ELJbCGLeRVPUQboTQgNM9syNa/LBuv9zNE6lpB0YMXwJtJxwndiAmKWO+YUxc+GEqu Be1sdmgZK2ncC/SjReYR2xUr23MkTg7CiGmOwlStRFpANhIs/ocf5mA2EVgC53ehe9 KTMaBZn8HEbkw== Cc: BOB SURFBUM GREER Subject: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Gang..I would like to nominate Bob Greer of Sonoma, CA to FOT..Bob has been vintage racing for about 20 years in an MGB and before that an Austin Healey.. Bob is now doing a complete restoration of a street Mk2 Spitfire.. I'm not real sure how to get him started with the gang His email is robonglen@yahoo.com thanks Racer Bud Spitfire #21 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 19:29:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440DB40E1A for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:29:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361A14055C for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:28:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 420291C000184; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.69]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0CFD3E000088; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:27:23 -0500 (EST) References: <60742FD3C9AB4A0A8604F5BAF9B3BABE@Bud> To: budscars@comcast.net, fot@autox.team.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com (205.188.255.5) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:27:22 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:27:22 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356143243; bh=OAqQ+fbmPqGmz+32oZsJjm3NiwWkqbnZsWaAawS6DcI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dKVu5Dca14GCD5eLxKK/cOseos6g1aQcQSXAXNEL5khnshefej2i1W3Og1Q/82KvJ IzbYGOTCAGC+BCW5qcfqadcsIqOpt/wNH7BzPaEuz6qSUIqzPab+Rud1ckwNo4OYn6 b0hbZ1c6SCRax9FAKQwIIjMbVaREECAzYlYfwBSE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b50d51a8b3df7 Cc: robonglen@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Another Spitfire? Outstanding! Mark, can you add him before you leave for CA? Welcome aboard! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: RACER BUD To: fot Cc: BOB SURFBUM GREER Sent: Fri, Dec 21, 2012 8:22 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination Hi Gang..I would like to nominate Bob Greer of Sonoma, CA to FOT..Bob has been vintage racing for about 20 years in an MGB and before that an Austin Healey.. Bob is now doing a complete restoration of a street Mk2 Spitfire.. I'm not real sure how to get him started with the gang His email is robonglen@yahoo.com thanks Racer Bud Spitfire #21 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 20:02:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC25406AF for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:02:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8DF40570 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:02:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBF8A12AD for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:01:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:01:27 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <60742FD3C9AB4A0A8604F5BAF9B3BABE@Bud> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Done deal. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 21 20:28:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5A9406AF for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:28:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23654056C for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:27:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 03:26:19 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.107] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 03:26:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 03:26:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356146779; bh=djNpy2LKVbsaYoXglapGwEn/msmFM28bnNWxySy6jBk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Organization:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=Fz17FDRiIF5RZeshdhuysOnFE3YpnaA6zu/YyfQ5EachT0NtdKT2aFqwwW3F9xaSSP0MEmLLGMbhteOtp33lObgI4q/N27Bc6uMTUZNDhEIzd6XRM3KVSPDeU7qzTggCLFyocKL3c7bcossYeomUfeBUFIlPpXahA6woy/m0Wcc= xsvf1Y2a0O_Jly0_QS5hU5a5tmDQ0cT2J2eHjzaDpDSaJZ7stuk.zathI24F .ooc0LpsFC_8H8o425.sRrQbN4c0hUh6DYM2jhpudutW5CuvXvR2UVK8NRlN R2LjbKZs0j9e8jltpmKEVf6D9yxSlA.Q0Amb41FIx2qcf_vp6i_9eIpL.G2A OISoVB1LynSrCRepMfO.f.GFNJxpUihYrnx9OcRDsu3w_G2Oa6GcW3t9ycD5 UIK8Up1RD3BJB.lDcirivWLWh2YuZ7cC6rKioe9QssjjBG.bffDXAEl6Qu9d Vdg68mUc0hPoAXV067zBxdwcNs00ZQYX2_LQgjfLMBy34Cd8Eq.DOBuHd7EM cnR6DPgjBlkx4YzbKoZN.mulDjzwHLtqZMaFko9wHmAOsvsbe64HG10R88AI d47WO5b4MRpHbFDNQvSeQlxn1Tnfuq47QlAzB8iQ6PagdfzY- Received: from HadoLaptop (mhado@108.93.117.23 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2012 19:26:19 -0800 PST From: "M&M Hado" To: "'Stutzmans'" , "'Duncan Charlton'" , "'FOT@autox.team.net Triumph'" References: <009b01cddd82$8d94ab30$a8be0190$@att.net><00ef01cddf2c$226b39e0$6741ada0$@att.net><002701cddf77$d68cb3e0$83a61ba0$@com> <476980F46761412CA5F72BCF0AF82F19@ComputerPC> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:26:16 -0600 Organization: M&M Hado Thread-Index: AQNQWNc+49tIundj2jxs5SvGtTEVzAI1VCHbAby7pBICJJH0vgMXEGk4ApcVemGUwQ/kgA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm crossing my fingers, but I think it will be fine. Thanks for all the input from everyone. Mike -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stutzmans Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:19 PM To: Duncan Charlton; FOT@autox.team.net Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs One of the many modifications made when the 68 hp. Vangard engine was being modified for the 90 hp. TR2, was changing the block casting so longer studs could be screwed deeper into the block. The block was cracking at the original short stud holes. So, good luck Mike. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Charlton" To: "FOT@autox.team.net Triumph" Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs > The factory did make them short -- on the Standard Vanguard engine > that preceded the TR engine. > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 (had the Vanguard engine when new) > > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:36 AM, MadMarx wrote: > >> If that would be good to set the bolt upstairs to the block to the >> factory would have done it back in the days - shorter bolts are >> cheaper ;-) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mhado@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 22 00:11:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEC54068D for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:11:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4074054D for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:10:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.51]) by cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20121221214851694.DVKI3824@cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:48:51 +0000 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=1hG2i44nH4kA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=eCFddR0XSXAA:10 a=bZE4jbnd6J7SZcuGR_0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F1/C6-04255-109D4D05; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:47:46 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Duncan Charlton'" , "'FOT@autox.team.net Triumph'" Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:47:46 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3ftsGt0Ga3pQGETnS7pCCLmUVPDwADfakA Subject: Re: [Fot] TR2 Cylinder Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > The factory did make them short -- on the Standard Vanguard > engine that preceded the TR engine. Didn't it also use smaller studs, and make about half as much power? -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 22 03:25:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EF8407AC for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:25:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB4B4051D for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:25:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEA2A4C091; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mni6e0TPFNFb; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F0F3EA4C087; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:23:28 -0500 (EST) From: To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "Friends of Triumph" References: <50D51245.8020109@bradakis.com> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:23:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Cheers, MJB! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark, Thanks again for all you do for us, enjoy your time away. Tis the season for good tidings and cheer, and spreading some of it towards the team.net server fund helps keep things going, and helps with stocking Mark's fridge with festive beverages. That's always important, especially this time of year! Think about clicking the donate link at the bottom of this message. The hours Mark volunteers to all this happen for us is something we are ALL thankful for. Happy Holidays! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:52 PM Subject: [Fot] Out of town > I'll be in down in Orange County for a bit visiting family, so if the > server > blows up while I am gone I won't be able to do much. > > mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 22 11:11:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921374054E for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:11:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B5140439 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:10:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id je9so2903086bkc.27 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:09:01 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zXvmmhuqndFZ8O/QFslJGjOylD3T+dLSlPUSh3KIptw=; b=v+aKXS25O0zIvu+pug3e9Zsb7AQ4M8rnld9c3xBcdiQGWY9kpWdNeG/Pk2A2iziMe6 MNZ7hiSMuwqTuQC08amzZ4ibiSseky3JFl9mqdrSjACgKgvRmaj2HmjZFzuyRvTyp9cA MFcc6R+w/QEOuMN7k/dqENErarBw/yDOz/QUgPjFuprfwjxdiTiLNGV5uogWnoSlyAdJ IkGgL3gXpOe2302gO0tSSKl4PrzZ0yZrJIOlMLNkKh7I1jU1jfffgLRBQg35U9DLbM80 vxe0tsF0LAb016BCBCOcjwA4tiWb9Jg0rZCkJMsgb9noI/yT1fNb406ZHZgUC0viVFBg /alA== Received: by 10.204.129.202 with SMTP id p10mr8261864bks.56.1356199741796; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.70.4 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:09:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:09:01 -0500 From: dick stockton To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] FS: TR7/Saab valve adjusting pads Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Leftover from my shop days. Many assorted TR7 valve adjusting pads. Email for a photo. Make an offer. 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[198.228.204.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a10sm12290632vez.10.2012.12.22.10.29.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:29:16 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Bownes -Seiri Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:29:12 -0500 To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Data logging Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For those that are looking for a nice little data logging system, these folks are looking to get their project funded. http://www.indiegogo.com/RaceCapture?c=activity Bob _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 22 12:44:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA2540558 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:44:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F651406B3 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:43:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 19:42:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.161] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 19:42:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 19:42:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356205333; bh=WtgnORGAYjrZKY8gg5d6BiU4YejHC5kh3MUUgs/4W6c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=CdOeUNo52skN2ysu5flvwMm86SuJdbAJwF6M1SpJw1YBPV49T/7INFfy0P62WLTSnklpwqnLIXH90E34yKeIDpEfbsWCbiD/TfbWFDEZvwLJoFlK6oStu2xF6ObOesVvowTRlI1/6l61XAirgVIZVJx1wA/nlW+Ht7eUf9aVQLo= m651D4qtwzZCGxH11L7fb031B919tcKCIx_fbPwpGVyHJwGGA_bcSPAfo1jG PgBB1mjswb_U1gud.LGda1iJKu1BVQ5AIIBbTVxLnczm80vov_IOmky1Eyq9 Xr5kg6GSVJgnlNHt8A4aYMsdfPBhyq92x3TIRn5C_uuPIWO5FBVbggG6JNCy kwkT0U.uQWx9ujxupweQcT4zxaDRkhQi8U92qicByPnXyxEYLHrXex7YzbHe UyN.4T.v6vgkl._6S.sQXU8xzp_nynlzTrDuckfqXg14sdje3MYcadsK8d62 gK0RMKjCEDQwIIOcWQ1P8Env2sewlFU8kmcKIOFA4e5GFvPXvIMHjtK_UZVL 1ZXwVXnuEI2rY2N0RvvSawX0RRr5LPLWqo8g63EFLMMjDa_eNBc00r06UVCA drzCb32UYjzMYI4BNlOabtKBtX5m_g1NZPNspSPHnyJICHBBYftUWMO.hQPT 76_LW_rEeF3NmdN4- Received: from [26.14.4.213] (fasttrs@198.208.251.70 with xymcookie) by smtp104-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2012 11:42:13 -0800 PST References: <1356140587.70090.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:42:12 -0600 To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] da bomb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Bobby, Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > JOE A. ...you da BOMB ! thanks for the videos ! > haven't watched The Bomb yet but you know what? I do get to watch the > ->California Air<- video again and further note... I'd rather push a Triumph > than drive a Cadillac... even though my GT-6+ had self ventilated, I have a > signed Triumph by Kas Kastner on that video production... > > Kas, you and Peggy were so very gracious to me after I sought you out at the > Mitty. My engine was blown and I asked you "should you sign it ready to push?" > .. with a small thought you graciously responded and signed, "how about 'Racing > Soon, Kas Kastner' ...a smiling memory for me for my lifetime ... How cool is > that? I get all weepy and sappy around this time of year, as this year comes to > close so here if you don't like the love.... > > Thank you all my friends with the love of Triumph's in your heart for being , > dare I boast , one of us! > > Merry Christmas Ya'll ~! > > Love from Texas, Bobby > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 22 12:52:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D74840E25 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:52:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D86A4044C for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:52:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 19:50:36 -0000 Received: from [98.136.86.52] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 19:50:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2012 19:50:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356205836; bh=34dvlRRE5XRS0HbPzuZRCSsNHgVVccWAGZMbqg0SBhQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=ARt5i+TkxDd9TSGPjoiNExuAJt3G04ISeLlwWWUYSMVntm9NRl6tHb18Ihnwpoi8TjmLdny+tc0uRCMRwSaQNNkmrw1pBmqEt/BW8UQchZMWqij/w8n/d/Fh33a8GP4SuznUAfxCNZYgFqtOhttDlCxp4mwIFIGWusNo7ZLNKdQ= vpbNAIUXy.JWQn3hz2jihhq_dASb4tSwo4TEVrlNZ6hPMWd4dcUl3YOHCaQv o35JiQqjnQBmmNlbQp5p6YyCX9AT4bfDXkAW5a2OQXSHU8VpSW9HmTTpLgJR yTDfmbRd6d22bc3d2JKx9RJgwU8czA.KXNyp1Rh8ePzx4mplaasUke7M_pje iI3aTaUDUNEpzrVwxog..XemKgOADBs3bhRM615ChI62FIcWru4hv4vtK2FY gPhIL9AUrPn_0zINJlSDzfT_nrB11yr8depdj_D1cIxHcfUxtkUudplPqH.I 2L23KMVIDJ0avMEByIdEOuIWodPsdvRf5GBi7USCX__3LWCuN9Lqopvldc3C C.mOQt5WiKSPESbyM5uvl5AC47uYxGPoOt5LkPOtEkL9sx.cUqFC7NGyIFbN 9OnBXAJKm_YkC1ZNZXkaXwzA1SX24i4TIsKm7w1eLL_NFB5bcJnkjaFi36Yc zfaL4qyLjYh7YNjk- Received: from [26.14.4.213] (fasttrs@198.208.251.70 with xymcookie) by smtp113-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2012 11:50:36 -0800 PST References: <1356140587.70090.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:50:35 -0600 To: Mike Munson Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] da bomb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry FOT, Hit send at the wrong time, dang old eyes and small phone screens! Merry Christmas to all! Mike Sent from my iPhone On Dec 22, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Mike Munson wrote: > Hey Bobby, > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > >> JOE A. ...you da BOMB ! thanks for the videos ! >> haven't watched The Bomb yet but you know what? I do get to watch the >> ->California Air<- video again and further note... I'd rather push a > Triumph >> than drive a Cadillac... even though my GT-6+ had self ventilated, I have a >> signed Triumph by Kas Kastner on that video production... >> >> Kas, you and Peggy were so very gracious to me after I sought you out at the >> Mitty. My engine was blown and I asked you "should you sign it ready to > push?" >> .. with a small thought you graciously responded and signed, "how about > 'Racing >> Soon, Kas Kastner' ...a smiling memory for me for my lifetime ... How cool > is >> that? I get all weepy and sappy around this time of year, as this year comes > to >> close so here if you don't like the love.... >> >> Thank you all my friends with the love of Triumph's in your heart for being > , >> dare I boast , one of us! >> >> Merry Christmas Ya'll ~! >> >> Love from Texas, Bobby >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 22 16:20:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B60340E2C for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:20:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E064054E for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:20:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id efpS1k00C16AWCUA1nJszV; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:18:52 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.72] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id enJq1k00D4L5TyG8SnJq4x; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:18:51 +0000 From: Bud R To: "fot@autox.team.net List" Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:18:50 -0700 s=q20121106; t=1356218332; bh=VWV+CwUe0Ef0yS2J6xfi1ssFEqXJQPg/9FwPHdPSBsY=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=T/Q6qPzVZHPPO5PlssoGpdCOGLsF7/aTGhUVvbQTfuPH7zFbllStnpaplbhanYsr3 5wmrjJF9cePNgRA7+b8eugaIKs5Vax4QHKP5BafMiTCHANkTA2o9jSOi2RLHjRg07H MMfwebMH2AQPLi+lgN/YB0SDrKGPduM4Py9V84d0ygPUeh72q/ng7OdneHrHFbss6D KhrdFjq1humDOwrn8Y1JmT/mq5bZlV8lzmm//gt69MIHLgJhXC2agi2/+dpFqNCGfO VpP8ayybqvK5bzq+SV7jUgRhEfirQFe5ihRnGkEuqK/FkpKuj1ri1BsIT+LAyg1mpx Y8hFSEMJ0IhhQ== Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Camshaft 88812 Crankshaft 43398 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The only marking on the spare camshaft I'm checking out is a stamped 88312. The spare crankshaft (large bearing) is stamped 43398. I've done some searches but found nothing definitive. Anyone know what these numbers might indicate as far as make, model, specs, etc. for either one? Thanks Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 22 17:09:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CFC406AA for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:09:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.177.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462FA4054E for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:09:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.63] by nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2012 00:07:33 -0000 Received: from [98.136.185.195] by tm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2012 00:07:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2012 00:07:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356221253; bh=RI9+zM67aw06cWHwCaIhLCeWDWOXmVCDoeikGX6yVws=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=frrDxerzGEZPx3fu8smKh+MJUQDtuDkj8gSJuwKvmzYDRQkOnn9t9GZV+CTFCuW5wnJYNFLRBF/fv/cHVRZQRvLo8GMnznmUcZtYK46rPreNqud7nAEGvop7V2Nz9AYaLk6wZYfzCGwEipeaaVbMZk2ILW86xt/UsfrZvLzu7bY= oTx7c8Dk6BXClR5Bk0a8Z.qkhaHsL_WUZ38CUtkFbiDmVIp7cu27KJS_4k4b nLgLFhigzngbsupSB4nt5XUhSbx35ns13U0RuHM42ZK_349_iJxAYRRl9UGb K9ak45GELShNfEOTDf.Pr1XUwn7bUtSqXb_I1fB79wmNb.KH3gsxxIQQPmSs NGJkIH3G9A0wYYET72x9qgB9OZ94nnc1.24M8qfzAXU4gv5DgCIH_Ugr7OqE BYgnDOd6_x5uCabtGwwMvHRpiGLUl7mGwqoKaMschSzBFHgOszw8QgF7D7i8 cf2hlqetZYm_bqosUtc0kBkJPHrmIhmXwS_6m4yvWwDNwIBq19ClNMbScLXx ZW5Syim6X2f1ftLC6kTWw5_b_XlBQrW1OIXZY1op7m4ysCQ8d_Rin45FQkxI kVEresJeolms1Ea1PvJd1QA2TtNfUzd0lcn_2I3dH32vv_hwVzUsEGoDmlMm pPSjzxq.F9b8zeFgqXSwVuk1QVThgWmYU6s43M5YMoGXGlPJ2ASdhhWwo9Dm ndYN9PgmkKQ-- Received: from [192.168.1.67] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with xymcookie) by smtp104-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2012 16:07:33 -0800 PST From: Dennis Delap Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:07:43 -0600 To: FOT@autox.team.net, ISOA Subject: [Fot] Idle Chatter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A M I C I & Friends I made the cover of my 1100 club magazine. Check it out. www.the1100club.com Dennis _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 22 18:49:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DB340E35 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:49:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913A94054E for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:48:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2012 01:46:38 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.123] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2012 01:46:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2012 01:46:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 59031 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 2012 01:46:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356227198; bh=lrzEsb/72tIrrR02F0hN6XhyNje4TRld5SGLmEkZky4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sttb0/Ne9v1anKZBYa1Vl5HE5u2zY4Ewh+kDTbbiPZIe0czXRdraqPIV48NyRGrM5ABgPw2d8IKv4a6cfIASGhJNxwfcWe4/JVfU4RbwOScgGhjKSyIgEsiOkvzOWUnOWmEQ9DWm7BcolGd1jqun9ys0jJirqXxMI/EGdJaLh1A= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tdYqmicAiOd7TSsL2f1xXTzq4x6MsdLW+juuv4KS6YRIXFktrEmZl+n11xXFRDL3we3oYw3OkVB8tHaWNHP4EDcrsmaA/SPvtEPGmPdgdI1vwTR1qBH47eNLGAtUo+n3Ip2BFJKeC+DJYLuAjSxjwn5ciLhgDqL3F6IIocLl0yQ=; bvGkzah1PDCSt8uvyi.gXlunP3_XnoDLiIWeyHhLSTiG.zTLSGx1Gcx7MDTh _Mu6LaWmXkruDnp0anFubuzoa7mBDFbd6K8ALscijbHZHVxpGpYMNaO0FrXV O7QzlO9ORZuFbxfziuhDp0AVovAfU2d4zmub8I8dpTdTI2JE31Gs620Lr1D9 WrcqwGSv7bk4jA1jWnv0Q592f0bQ3pe6I6QhdmMafAjFolg4qfHBOZEqZ6f_ 9JRTs3TfRV1U2CCh8SVa4AR.ofHFPG3HwT2rub6rP8H2Ot5tmI1W8b7rPb9k qn2n3it6I2eviO9rve9mwkNIr_av2HBMWXprcMzVrZgX7TG_vIJUf72PAeC0 KP_zS9CVDS7ZghA2bs3DnLwzcoQaL3b5EvyY8w.HtiGcJZ9pIt6NYXLjgHaz HHkOxvPcA9fc3nPvavQqO.iuVFOk8CzbTAjg5RzGnMuOizjT3xuUW.MjMzO3 7jO6LQCo0m33xD4xXz76ZJZoXA2Q- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:46:38 PST Tm90IFRSSVVNUEguLi4uIGJ1dCByYWNpbmcuLi4uY29vbCBsaW5rIHdpdGggdGhlIGhhcmR3YXJlIQoKd2lsbCB0aGlzIGxpbmsgd29yaz8gbXkgYnVkZHkgRGF2ZSBnb3QgdGhlIGxpbmsgd2l0aCB0aGUgVHJhcW1hdGUgYW5kIEdvUHJvIApmaWd1cmVkIG91dC4uCgoKQm9iYnkKCgpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9NkhXd3VhdkJYWEUBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:46:38 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Fw: Dave Brouwer also commented on your Wall post. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not TRIUMPH.... but racing....cool link with the hardware! will this link work? my buddy Dave got the link with the Traqmate and GoPro figured out.. Bobby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWwuavBXXE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 23 13:23:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318E04056D for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:23:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027DC4051D for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:23:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7498D1C000066 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0BD32E000089 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:21:49 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.39) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:21:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:21:48 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356294109; bh=BhLG8dQ99Nh+tM9k+BzyXtgNdZ1Oqby87TbNY2h6JvA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cQ1wEDZ6GR/GR1OXZXj5LrQkFedAk0rmLp/8BsJvfPCM0Ksw1QFAhK1ASt0XKiT1A YxZzMWDIhCyZIYU06w+dElTr4j9awuustzWvWzkCAkZMVxIwcSSt8klRTxYqfMVWWJ 2IIAAWrnDKv93rP40ulxPmCDqZMxHBap/NKGEoNM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c750d767dd11b7 Subject: [Fot] FOT TRIVIA SAM HALKIAS AND RICHARD TAYLOR SHARE THE SAME BIRTH DATES today........ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Pretty useless info, I guess. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 23 14:20:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C76B40E83 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:20:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CB840652 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:20:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B13DA1C000087 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.205]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 24B0AE000081; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:18:25 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:18:24 -0500 (EST) To: n197tr4@cs.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356297506; bh=BUHE0WxLfQNHF7E8IDKhJr5OlTx/nscDkgv4QNoIaaA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lBpy8+zCIvHSh5ZeK3mU3xIrmYzD3a/UXlrONFR/dk9s1kfWmCOHVmqqMyyiyOAdA WOIMQ1CQQLdi9jJKXHO6tVAD3QyEJwRVe6fp5VvObN4vLBsfUV4oALj1IpjaHvdOG0 DjToRSNOYALtM8pDkjQ3kvWxqMnhAUuYFLcueqJY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294850d775211d26 Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT TRIVIA SAM HALKIAS AND RICHARD TAYLOR SHARE THE SAME BIRTH DATE... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 12/23/2012 2:21:57 PM Central Standard Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > Pretty useless info, I guess. > What are you talking about? That's critical information that comes up in TRIVIA PURSUIT competition all the time. MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 23 19:04:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2C940550 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:04:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C1D403DE for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:01:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 02:00:05 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.173] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 02:00:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 02:00:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 10708 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2012 02:00:04 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356314404; bh=eeEspA/Pe6pz7BC5k/jWZJz2fjQvwAE2Y2oujG1zV2M=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E2Hd+/STKQe1FDN4tKS/BUDXjWqXHvvXnFLCci3krigigjNT3kIUmQnj11krD7bDhcWEt0Y1w0Be4kzervCBp7XiogX0CkXt8TX4wLxrpQa+EfyDiE88q434d8YP74Vgu2su1L9ok6HQzDkumSdGEupvI0Gt1NNvsD2623qZuNA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AAY22gX3foELGq4mIQEcjoClLCkyExMYSOxpy2zojxuBWB5LuaXN72D/dHloB0mvEN1Y8sXEhpEerlPB0pBUQP9qveQyd/kR85alnBxnFgloSDeHLujmlzGu7uIJ57YZ/K4+eADEBsX0UJ2Qa/AK8kY5+5vtaPqLI69TfePEdN0=; FUOS8cad8QSB_SDstihTIUPGOiXYk_K4oKTs4txfAQrylLiT3QkhFzge7XFZ 9Lsj3MnLF2f2csQV2oeG4_8hE1ulN.gj3ax.jTYrtPL2HbOzzE.6Jnh4OKy. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sam and his lovely wife Carol share the same birthday as well. Mike ________________________________ From: "BillDentin@aol.com" To: n197tr4@cs.com; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT TRIVIA SAM HALKIAS AND RICHARD TAYLOR SHARE THE SAME BIRTH DATE... In a message dated 12/23/2012 2:21:57 PM Central Standard Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > Pretty useless info, I guess. > What are you talking about? That's critical information that comes up in TRIVIA PURSUIT competition all the time. MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 23 19:41:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F6E4051D for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:41:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s2.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s2.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC2F4051E for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:41:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W37 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s2.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:39:21 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: fot Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 02:39:21 +0000 FILETIME=[E0CC6440:01CDE17F] Subject: [Fot] Crankshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So I went into the garage today and was going to move some sections of old railroad rail iron into the yard, but there were a bunch of little guys beating the crap out of this iron with hammers making old iron into crankshafts for Triumph engines. Whoa, these are serious Elves. Got your order in? Not too late to ask. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 24 05:39:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC12B4056C for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 05:39:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E76E4043D for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 05:39:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W107 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:32:53 -0800 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:32:52 -0500 References: FILETIME=[5B4DC3B0:01CDE187] Subject: [Fot] Wedge Fiberglass Parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Passing on some info that was given to me. There is a guy in the Cleveland Ohio area that has some new TR7/8 fiberglass front fenders and hoods for sale at $100 each. His name is Eric at 216-281-4048. Contact him direct for more info. I have no first hand knowledge of him or the fenders. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 24 08:13:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E98E4055E for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:13:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD24403D0 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:13:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm37.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 15:11:12 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.233] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 15:11:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 15:11:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356361872; bh=2Pau9RJ4PLtSzut2q/NY/UY6DnGxY5yo0UgfoiKyqPA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=I50yVHBpBdTkYQx2HUxzj1n03FX+yLLFf3z+d/Ju6vImAx+ES8jkvqjdvAAVmmy5DPvMXd2/GmGW88gm105oJirxjlXdMcM4kR9NwgfH7Qfm4qI2HIbbf5diMjzYGD5clMbgJGx43MtsRKMorwbezrKX2tgoH4l9+h16rAbm+JE= s4wP8KrAhAiU1CM0oehqXQ6zdbXxaUmFppCDpqElxfvuyZHlFP.9u5q8T.Me 05P25t7VskqgUnGweB_M3Lbtz0IE1xfkoBpogy8evtxWblu5QyqTkoajFubI vmrHbwxPj8wYNa_FUbPD.dcafhWB7wG6LOGpBQkPd8L3zZ.yqtS7ZF63.5bu 7rtdZzA4kZUu82PY5HT82tqsx3oV2XYsK_9KPid9xNetOKtZ7mF8XH5W9sec eeeIO4CQg8sLADckfZ_QpOvqHt5uCHamIhqtCkk_BWERxBHITbHQUm8AaOkQ b_83Z5GtwUetoiET36I2eFpKrVKSWo0UhVIrvzONWKOJDJNg7z7vKmB8bzFC ibsh7o2zIkzW6HRqw7ncoKnUK1CkWKEiilnl1pGhXz5bVg2D1Hjrr4xJJYCy 0cbXOu4lX5.UEosmF108XnDQpIjsnqw5DCo5NwBJAy9eXICEd4BWLGPO2yQy QZjtvfUjbny1c2TmL.1hsFgwWFWkOFNLTEW2TdKbe Received: from [192.168.1.67] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with xymcookie) by smtp112-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2012 07:11:12 -0800 PST References: From: Dennis Delap Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:11:25 -0600 To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OK! I'll take one. Peace all. On Dec 23, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 24 08:23:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEE34056D for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:23:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27C5403D4 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:23:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 15:21:29 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.104] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 15:21:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 15:21:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 96949 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2012 15:21:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356362488; bh=NFjp6Vvp3MLSBUYmbK1LLiCvACRnYti4O01qKI9RgWk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p78kISBw30dGa6/BR4VoXut2/2Yv68I5cXYR+WcFUUFnXbL9uH2WVEPVl41eXowU200gksuv7xoj/mhV1Uymvn8TzmvdNMuelOsapw0quCjSXPBilWwPIQ8UosJBXMvT+XVJijxq5xrtI5VZmaE0ey9QeAWdO/qddN5iNsOml88= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s8l1IGe2z7sUqnI4t8gumM845MuMMex7+K5paIfRxZWrcfZ1ivJeQimzy2y9k3DEGqlpSQWb1iSwbUKfEKN8AAP+KWxPAD84znFRgrXPAHDAami+VPELCi2mB6y9oSeehvzsSEsBgcCN7j3F1138Pj283mrz8At0IESHO6SB22U=; jlmBFI1FoZ7L4TSF5kZPAmFBb71M7e__5pf52.QvCy1r4ABaEzxvkJS_oRs1 pr3HzUJHAMXT59gfYbHAO8pMP9ugyRpvAn6bJMBnYHvYcJj144nN7uNHZ9uz yPl1FKjwI0ah0k50Csq5Hn8HzX4_DwWhe.A91sc0rmcnSh8EGQwp9VLY7_Qk JqXnBRwSL2nDAMVYFiT7MciPnEIblT6j5_hGTwojUOo04wlax9t6MpXMu3rV cc9_t3tWfoaSxtufefrVcb9G3QfxpgXTOxLRDYWQKREbGhPM3bZlAlhq3yYP 3jpRtC5du5My2I56ua78dpm2gklDMNxZA7jNrC9atMcBmeHlRabu9r6VbIvu PamOfl657bM718yWMX2acOnN_tkNIXBa5HnJBlTybnrZ.1vLlQ9anV5oOiCM jG41Owm8O3WW6a6zgxDT0pu1D.BLg2Pr5zMQvDKchm8YuWTZKj3NxAlBUbUo JE6TRs6M- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 07:21:28 PST SSd2ZSBiZWVuIHByZXR0eSBnb29kIHRoaXMgeWVhciBhbmQgd291bGQgbG92ZSBhIGJpbGxldCBjcmFuayBmb3IgbXkgR1Q2IHVuZGVyIAp0aGUgdHJlZS4uLi4gaG93ZXZlciwgSSBkb24ndCB0aGluayBhbnlib2R5IG1ha2VzIG9uZSB1bmxlc3MgaXQncyBvbmUgb2ZmIHByaW1vIApkaW5lcmVvIC4uCgpNZXJyeSBDaHJpc3RtYXMgUGVnZ3kgYW5kIEtBUyBhbmQgbXkgZmFtaWx5IHdpdGggRi5vLlQuICAgIQoKQm9iYnkKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206IEthcyBLYXMBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 07:21:28 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Kas Kastner Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've been pretty good this year and would love a billet crank for my GT6 under the tree.... however, I don't think anybody makes one unless it's one off primo dinereo .. Merry Christmas Peggy and KAS and my family with F.o.T. ! Bobby ________________________________ From: Kas Kastner To: fot Sent: Sun, December 23, 2012 8:39:52 PM Subject: [Fot] Crankshafts So I went into the garage today and was going to move some sections of old railroad rail iron into the yard, but there were a bunch of little guys beating the crap out of this iron with hammers making old iron into crankshafts for Triumph engines. Whoa, these are serious Elves. Got your order in? Not too late to ask. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 24 08:37:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4667840561 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:37:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A541403F9 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:35:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 15:34:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.192] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 15:34:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Dec 2012 15:34:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 87313 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2012 15:34:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356363247; bh=XWZEYj5lYLrI8KaFSGjlkya7Y5+r0h2C/TCwFcwNmws=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gZxYmXHNOgZ+JM5H5p24axtX/EZGolwsDkQCeT0pIR7TgJaGoGt6/hyO6q3OtZw10BOqXk02hZo2a0fJ+5dw2H9yrGB4Xudpf8js4FmcybjhNV+t7XhNI9PQ6Lvm46YyaIpGxrqpUrLkRrkc0kadcrErjwQ5lp1vcmqgpEGHfpc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YZ56l5tgWV453kUwvsyeepOTdHC9mRQio+Nvzp3XqJGBjQBifNpQozuCnswn5Ce7VWSA9BG9Eo12Hsm7heUbQXS9dFLc7O30c7VpIFQeBEslKGo3k1P1oB9kt0ENgvdx6CXEY7qUF93L4sS9e39f0Xg4ql4499jQ3Wlba/s3Alo=; 5jyO5Uq9mJlGE0kGKid1IC94iYwuYVVEcNVZirNdyC8B_.RlRL3YuFydLEgT nKfE5z0rHhPnF.L0ugjpKAam8.q.nHNwvUHIJbLKodvlzwWILPJE_4moTRGY clV0k0cTEj0s6U9WkBerBgHw2jxNiz5SB9MKl4mn0tSCXThfYVS_KqbS144p EQTrKBa_aOy5NYXae.ie7xwIiMjGukgLJtC8kC5fUi0yI5b3CGTAsdVezRzY Aqi3JaxM07nEr.U9XeOIStqOmAprnfZhcLo7zKq7AgsDLCl776YUmZOTBMmq QwwysvJ_wxIWeSbqs9J0FnhFCPkQKkmJvfvvGWYHvYdPfjFDhfXWVJoXwFVG R9iiez_aoY6zx0xUwTKGWatJvc3qT4i847QybYbNTgNHIrNnMkze_FJFT0md 5_VygXjDjeTF5NznlZyy8W5TQdavNNtgypn1btiwM_A-- Received: from [99.71.100.143] by web162203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 07:34:07 PST DQpHdXkgTW9ydGVyDQpWaW50YWdlIEF1dG8gU2VydmljZQ0KMjYyIDU3MyA0NTExDQoNCkZsYXRoZWFkcyBGb3JldmVyIQEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 07:34:07 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Morter To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Guy Morter Vintage Auto Service 262 573 4511 Flatheads Forever! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 25 09:31:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0E24041B for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:31:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921B740400 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:31:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 16:29:06 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.246] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 16:29:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1060.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 16:29:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 9466 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Dec 2012 16:29:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356452946; bh=QPCDzBhZvnp4Joixq33NG5t5WIPrVIT9rLn3/CxBcME=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Hr1O9m2xWJY3ybp+nTNbK2sU6F9VkwF+FfNphF57iEAVYMW/HgrpzN6zJwIaV77jGyzHyuyOMc09lH5jqtm9YhcCKpJCYlaNGXFpzqT1nGKvdBR4jUqFOsFsp5jNDTOXwpdVKclLL3UXd1LrUUMIQvgS79htxUmSswg60GoBmts= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qUZFTxFDAvZqKhNy2v8vtfBksq884E17c2VyLEgjcXSSdDi0U8PbbiHmSl9CW6+9E27an39uOH1RuCzUcfTnfQxVP+/HEW/kmstrsrNXJwOfNFwoBtwJ97rQ3AXY6E4mtocaJz0HsPFci7s6MKcG+e0mcFlEFXGNbW6OI6PfM88=; OuFRdLHnoh8MdjcY8RFccDA5va5CH_UXH_4MXoVMRnz5iP3YpLZYNH_R9awz EyPvIUEBRcXWqQXWtnY3eIL7DdIpmZih20Tyi6wL6Vib7OPjzDi6r9ytbe4g BxH.IOTKRtrvkjlgsEVmU0lxWumtNzfvQMffq6n3RgG5ja.H0cr_NjIW0EQJ .Vmb8q9aBCQowAxKgoXIKWgEzVu44FPqB2CeZQBLoV9xKGwZ7xiVqQRSK1zs 2XQ4lACWIDf82JCciwp5tQHxJSReU5Vq.knQX3DJw8gbUq1gN_qcwtBLyLrh Em0RYPHxEYXVxt8PiJCW04TfG4rR4UxAsJJ73Vux_saf0ZE.ACTeYY2QvSMc EL3.GQYINXsWr82iHmmsCJABw_uk87mbjTFL22Y78l9ytmZhXnJODIM6VWZm uDBRgf2gNu8moaMi7JyQHeAzx8pciDEk- Received: from [75.162.60.108] by web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 08:29:06 PST TWVycnkgQ2hyaXN0bWFzIHRvIGFsbCBvZiBteSBuZXcgZm91bmQgRnJpZW5kcyBvZiBUcml1bXBoISBJIHdpbGwgYmUgcmVhZGluZyBteSBzaWduZWQgY29weSBvZiBLYXMgS2FzdG5lcidzIFRyaXVtcGggUHJlcCBIYW5kYm9vayEgSGF2ZSBhIGdyZWF0IGhvbGlkYXkuLi5TaGF3biwgVGFtbXksIGFuZCBFdGh5biBGcmFuawEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 08:29:06 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Merry Christmas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Merry Christmas to all of my new found Friends of Triumph! I will be reading my signed copy of Kas Kastner's Triumph Prep Handbook! Have a great holiday...Shawn, Tammy, and Ethyn Frank _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 25 09:46:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0F34042C for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:46:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6444F40416 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:46:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fsds1k0060S2fkCACskqzU; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:44:50 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fskp1k00W2vctGa8VskqZv; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:44:50 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Shawn Frank" , "Friends of Triumph" References: <1356452946.8129.YahooMailNeo@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 08:44:48 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1356453890; bh=BzI8lcSxwdnZZJ/4Ygf/NK7yV83WW35de69a64wJLrQ=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DlYmdsYhwTj/sr4CTe2inXCZJNwdEvbYsgJjyNL6VmYnj8CfnXFsZZNrpqZvexFjp B4ZpRBoxfOzBWSS/75Gg6lt5AfcyRFFqLrS8Jk5t/wttepeF9f6W1C+ZYNBjxhfaXe L+8fVhiCBdomyXLUEs1/EjoTx9yHlr2xFDnM2gaC2ubBSlgwIU0XUDXufc2QCDdyma IhB5o775P7OCvTczIlM9lNMHmwJg91SIJNsqcP4B1izITsaw7Gxii672VsHIGTq4ME WIiZ8+LvRtNWvca9TdFQgQGXqXFCctboCtavamgcq3JQ/u3KaAoNhzuNk0gg2tkN0i 65Zoq8vUkC2Gg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Merry Christmas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Merry Christmas Shawn and all of FOT Racer Bud Spitfire #21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Frank" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:29 AM Subject: [Fot] Merry Christmas > Merry Christmas to all of my new found Friends of Triumph! I will be > reading my signed copy of Kas Kastner's Triumph Prep Handbook! Have a > great holiday...Shawn, Tammy, and Ethyn Frank > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 25 13:35:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5843B4052E for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:35:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F5A40432 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:34:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 20:33:03 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.229] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 20:33:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 20:33:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356467583; bh=ElPaT9CeKXbqi8RRcgCERQf1Q2CrmfReqbRMdGcdli0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:To; b=lWc56dI5ci6d5J1rBk6bt35SXrk6Gy/ESmvJIXBfm9ladilzll6KJD4jCIRfqcySz7PVXldhLVjfiNFe+98NGg+ryG4V4XS9QboETVzp8L0UziSvJdpWv0JCf4bGm+8AFgRS8XeEp5bEzJVANSHXyiZ/TOLFPxJmcR+EkGcswxI= IqWXbq6jJFdt8IY3Jyrb30Oh9zhZEZY.czNzkOX_73Pg5TSFr3zGZ6xWy0vB 0R5mnemhfEBA3FyazNt_900NrwlQvQakxuXfdR1lTZ2frWzMOVpSuu74wd5q czeHx99Es2DWvcw3UOxLp0Vn166gScnHykY0TrCbNHS361vBHBeL.L4ml7da .OEMjE29lX9YgKrK14cVhwTa0MZz9u_KGcFWuW0mAltG5oxJ2ckePY.MppuO HWQuEw63.NZAMeuk8aZDak_hYz8jBHKUZClVrBHdnn8aIRjqaMcLmi3qefkI tSHzbkP9S9cKxfQKapcFiRglR6e5SzzJ3NbeQR66C376wqg4LMLfskqcqpf3 aU4CJyHxSHP8nSkKwapSZJFi.m12yyp.ds.wUBypFW93JIxiqLOgyxgpWtGo Y3vpKcJuMFk3fCMKP0thwDe5NIU1_J69_G7bcmBmv.On20RAkfa97UJ9pbLS Dxz03x4rPYAmHw7Hk7UTplARK2rZ0voLDhUboNLtWenOaWccXkAa7IA6jg96 XaCWcBABnU7uV Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2012 12:33:03 -0800 PST From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:33:03 -0700 To: "jason@multivintage.com" Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/vintage-racing-shakeups/ Nice pic gents. Happy Holidays. Ty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 25 13:53:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340CC40448 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:53:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E57C4041B for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:53:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 20:51:17 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.108] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 20:51:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 20:51:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 18811 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Dec 2012 20:51:17 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356468676; bh=4yz8URM+tMvnUoyB6AEGJJypCBzEcuDP7GZkiM7wymU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IQm3yZjIKBfPN7NjZ47Iw6eJ35+pQThiRhHyBakf+LU/fDl31fCq7CKJ/WSnm3hlMzNY68MC8f4Js1FLM9ibCXMxExMTVR1hma7Kv6k48uMqQgrXQa3MRsdPktimyTL6QYVT92c7hjWP11sDXXWa4ajBnKxEDksDRjeChOCJ53I= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VdH6tn1WnVXeFGCdyXjfGYtC3juWwq37Uh8aa0wG6WbcPhq8DpNcZgzORRARhWQDvi09AdWtXimNPcql4SWAVTFdiY/VQQRJ6T/2zNYedGshIVAdYgy1hFQkjgAHZTQSBmhHdiDocILpWJIhOoR6Sj84tUPKsqPi14UO2gac2YQ=; HI3g6C36WnUDcSGW9vz3EbbmUGLv50AHtVztG5RNmQ1v9Kg4jpNi4GHjngFK mY3SfIKGaCdXmuZYqXxopuNQNSBAc4jAK53nRXhFI5M8XqyPtTsH.G20VLqA CbjMJvTblgJWvwKkmeHAvFbnhgP08Xty_5uucE_PZLff9eigSLULznLhOyxY 0qWJSSjse4V.gVsptUmwLOjSxExWsjHeEOKCpHNo.kHCgL5iEcGuzLlPArH0 KTsesJ9zKZubu.0UQiH.DocOkwSA2D7inVdXnerx2PlrBa4unyUGyETrWzVv u7KTeta8gV4tsvptIiZrcQhB6HhZInaqb3QZnXEE_AtvwdNR0n5CbMH_rxRW DM_IW82vnaYq0K6J0PzS5WSepqmYMLh3gwOyg67FwQHm7VzYqseEnLI1QLBL D3Ju60dG9SroaLslZhE0IZSvms5AtKJPndJCAhO6wHJxRUeQNNtQsuYp0WqZ r31D.mCuZ0gp2Rf9x8CChgAM7UUGFwegiCtMUHDKLIeG1rOLHvauIcnnhNFo RBMnE78UPMoUWOYQqMehoLrmi7U2jiEc0LtLXxcHG.jThgnX.IdndO9X5rBE p565xaR5RAxLEao.i6FXNBoOBicD2yK8u7cHZnZE8vrdKEZ3_ILkRaDrZuUb bkxuDZffRSkw47gsTQx66WAbQzVwh0H16E596TMvv3hDd1xprDb1eRK3zbuc NVIGWMN0hfAqDtqoIFsCANAjFWJ_FBnR4h6V8RCaDqD08jFiSNC4mix5mG9_ Hq0XqVNmLKyaahkYnJQJR66Y5TUQuYGXXFAgN2OnUJqee4bM- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:51:16 PST UGhvdG9zIHRlbGwgYSB3aG9sZSBzdG9yeS4gQm9iIEtyYW1lciBhbmQgR3JlZyBCbGFrZSBhcHBlYXIgdG8gaGF2ZSB0aGVpciBhdHRlbnRpb24gb24gc29tZXRoaW5nIG90aGVyIHRoYW4gdGhlIHVwY29taW5nIHJhY2UuDQpNZXJyeSBYbWFzIHRvIGFsbCENCi1FZC0NCg0KLS0tIE9uIFR1ZSwgMTIvMjUvMTIsIFR5bGVycHRob21wc29uQHlhaG9vLmNvbSA8VHlsZXJwdGhvbXBzb25AeWFob28uY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQpGcm9tOiBUeWxlcnB0aG9tcHNvbkB5YWhvby5jb20gPFR5bGVycHRob21wc29uQHkBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:51:16 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: "jason@multivintage.com" , "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Cc: Bob Kramer , GregoryBlake , Triumph Friends of , GregoryBlake Subject: Re: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Photos tell a whole story. Bob Kramer and Greg Blake appear to have their attention on something other than the upcoming race. Merry Xmas to all! -Ed- --- On Tue, 12/25/12, Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com wrote: From: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. To: "jason@multivintage.com" Cc: "Triumph Friends of" Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 2:33 PM http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/vintage-racing-shakeups/ Nice pic gents. Happy Holidays. Ty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 25 14:09:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6361E40526 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:09:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A406140329 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:09:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 555D11C0000B4; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1C9DEE000085; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:07:56 -0500 (EST) References: <0CCC7126-67AE-49D6-B8AA-B0185CDB9C22@yahoo.com> To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com, jason@multivintage.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com (205.188.167.90) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:07:53 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:07:55 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356469676; bh=XISLFSf5W1yRJ9eZAWmIl7AjW0KpobLBh8McducOgK4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cqyBxAN/2POEg5ceSD866JC35A7+1nDsT+r+/hktT3WeYUuCYC46gnVcjLxpEaZ8q hLvaWjd9ZQ3zHDJPEubNEebtHB/aaj5v9vwn+G3f5f6pa85adxaoqcIO/Xmo7I7u/G eujBJOFFnmgrt06hyzR36BjV+ZrDJbwFZhAQKaJ4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a50da15ac2b55 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Just saw a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. The KASTNER CUP at The Mitty 2012 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net and many are recognizable.......plus please note one of the grid girls. Classic Motorsports orchestrated the big fanfare at the STARTING GRID at THE MITTY.....with on site interviews of drivers and organizers. The CLASSIC MOTORSPORTS GRID GIRLS were a nice touch.......Kas and I almost missed it.....curious, we came out of our perch on the hill and rode the golf car in. No one had told us. A failure to communicate. But it went well. I'd like to see us do this at Road America for KCUP 2013. It will require some additional organization, that would include the FOT, VSCDA, and RA......John Houlton, Mike Korneli, and I will discuss and see where it goes. It's a nice feature. We will likely go directly to the podium for awarding of the Kastner Cup....Kas and I have discussed MARQUE AWARDS, and I would like to proceed with that idea. Joe Alexander Subject: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/vintage-racing-shakeups/ Nice pic gents. Happy Holidays. Ty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 25 14:25:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7129A40549 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:25:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.154]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B038740323 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:25:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 06:12:20 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 06:12:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2012 06:12:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 65878 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Dec 2012 06:12:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356415940; bh=FiAWXGg4O1wG60Nd8ujtSHPERcVSIGAsbl4VjtcvDMc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R1CYuOOlGrPcqBu51mkVZ2GBCSwPfQrC96uFyEJlucCE/fTF6BRMXCn1JXvx9X5itx1UgamNN5elELU1nbUjsuSFb2w5NtAseMQPmR0XrS5aw5S3u+otKV4QBTtO4I89m8eVlTYHUd/rhMhYc+0jBxcfjk1mQJt2+8y7qIgR9wU= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kmmgStKClm8v1IemfmA4bEZI6ySXf2V3jsVptPVGwiNhoSWQ3GPJFBWToKS6PMsYsGprOdNpw0RJEPPCK3YKyDkjabFcbTWOH/6+2Q+cWenta7PCHOf847jen5QYKMFPSZCmESNsFmN/jo7cLuN73fqG24vzN+BpaNnrUIHI480=; 1yQur5b6ecSdok0ZgHvZd8_5jvbWiJcRI06Gxd7ckyyskuK_hdmJjG7cXuTF S1M2mLA9Ta1nWcTZol4Ow8c5vE2keoHilWZ6f1Fncr44ujKGVOr_yu8M5VQ5 p2cf_ki1cgLJKsPvDHBSBUCsBKKEhQqpmqsGzZ50AaWWSOvwZF9s_L67Gvig kj8yTwoox5rq24Wvg_IrHlTN_cmZ1f8ZnrVeA456Tf.DipujkGgRkomTcDwE l4B.6OwT9Irc3tYBYa1FlQ6r9q8N2SrM9HN7GcqgPPmKzDkwvYrNLyDhHfrS LvPLRwazM.8Ygjg24fjt30m.Wi5FqrDFIEga8KHqo7MzigyYYQnh1vJxA_xT o4Ih.1v3yOsWugYPV8cCnMfdh3usomwHo7iNNftQtnxI7DpNjiZvZDZ2ADwC dDNZrMP78FkWBycDGegH22FH.wn_yrUrVbxE1sVqCtnz12GzqoKPmEXHgw8Q tUu0YrrKgeiS36ECvDdJJC17K Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:12:20 PST SXQgaXMgb2ZmaWNpYWxseSBtaWRuaWdodCBhbmQgSSBhbSBzaXR0aW5nIGhlcmUgd2FpdGluZyBmb3IgU2FudGEgdG8gY29tZS7CoFRvIGFsbCB0aGXCoHdvbmRlcmZ1bCBwZW9wbGUgd2hvIG1ha2UgdGhpcyBsaXN0IHNvIGdyZWF0Li4uIGhhdmUgYSB2ZXJ5IE1lcnJ5IENocmlzdG1hcyBhbmQgYcKgcHJvc3Blcm91cyBOZXcgWWVhci4gSSB3aXNoIGFsbCBvZiB5b3UgdGhlIGJlc3QgdGhpcyBob2xpZGF5IHNlYXNvbiBhbmQgaW4gdGhlIGNvbWluZyB5ZWFyLg0KVGhhbmsgeW91IGFuZCBHb2QgYmxlc3MgYWwBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:12:20 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] MERRY CHRISTMAS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It is officially midnight and I am sitting here waiting for Santa to come. To all the wonderful people who make this list so great... have a very Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year. I wish all of you the best this holiday season and in the coming year. Thank you and God bless all of you that have touched my life. -Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 25 14:34:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E52D40432 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:34:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C57140423 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:34:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fxUc1k0031wfjNsABxYMfi; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:32:21 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fxYL1k0022vctGa8jxYLnp; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:32:20 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "EDWARD BARNARD" , "FOT" References: <1356415940.62090.YahooMailClassic@web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:32:19 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1356471141; bh=R0zvilPx/N/ReZDLEt44vj7icqxrh817xEhF0WqM8iI=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sFUqENX0fGLaxBrjCzYFt9GdnTljTrA6ZSGNAKvqqZEcTjAMdX8lMdykNtAv6hExq 7aAuojnrC3tGXAXAzut/rvrYYoQcC4SgwY/dnFgCcAXNN1uI+uphFSvfiwtUdsgcHm Yq5ktc6zEWaQCCwzdoVoxAXY6kLE47cnuUn4hvtjcS1ddGV/74WZHIizwUGIMaroSS RJzTzgMzcJWNa7PYqwtgK0dNqrmT+gmBBWN/xafgZj/7tJ3oq6rG3mcclWDShzvQYG vVnJ/h+dhdjPBG6JqOB7oD40btR/E1pHE/uT4d9GrrZsnq12Kr92EcAZ06eFkNB7Eo UXtZpDpmwUcSg== Subject: Re: [Fot] MERRY CHRISTMAS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Ed!..Merry Christmas and God Bless You also!... Racer Bud Spitfire #21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "EDWARD BARNARD" To: "FOT" Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: [Fot] MERRY CHRISTMAS > It is officially midnight and I am sitting here waiting for Santa to come. > To > all the wonderful people who make this list so great... have a very Merry > Christmas and a prosperous New Year. I wish all of you the best this > holiday > season and in the coming year. > Thank you and God bless all of you that have touched my life. > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 25 20:44:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7399540537 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:44:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C76B4043B for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:43:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BC2A1388 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:43:03 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:43:03 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Home again Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Back home again, now to start catching up. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 25 23:13:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A9F40448 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:13:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E370F4043C for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:13:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id c10so10020154ieb.39 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:11:04 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zmzrybLDf+Wc9rY2PnQ63DiueTe7cah3AHXi4ji/hEk=; b=nVO9Yr/pX6K+uarcrEy6uOUzOaX7tPzVmGU22i/GBCpa/aa6CRPeXhUMzKXlStVm2r j1YEUCRKspVAg9h9Emf9pFL6MT03H8/ntRVgc3F7hep4oYJ/snmNqGL4j3nz357Hp/kq R0Emzt22wQu6RKgprxE5u+7NJ+HnUylMd2swstBEwtOm+utwpWUlEShDbND13Hs7g8Ww 1uTaxW1S8+3O2+8cq3iLlTWJaTHZy2va3g0BCDFsRn4UQB8pnsckOaVvUU3Y9hVbixBx u9Q9952oAra/LVa0wPLqeNeHJuOrD7Ws7Sh2iv00y99Z0TrBLAkrUfSHAAhYz0ikMIzi /eJg== Received: by 10.50.219.129 with SMTP id po1mr23503303igc.35.1356502264070; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:11:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:11:04 -0800 (PST) References: <0CCC7126-67AE-49D6-B8AA-B0185CDB9C22@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:11:04 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That picture, of course, was at pre-grid for the Mitty/Kas Cup race last April at Road Atlanta. I have posted 42 shots I took at the start of that race at https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/103241823961257430252/albums/5737956856713038417 I was on the camera platform at the end of the front straight. Chuck On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com < Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com> wrote: > http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/vintage-racing-shakeups/ > > Nice pic gents. > > Happy Holidays. > > Ty > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 00:01:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587BF4053F for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:01:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB644043C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:00:22 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=jse0jdURR9AA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=M_x3MqELVIoA:10 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=_BVl3Jktbl0nWD7SsN8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2xUSM6xIZwoA:10 a=Os7jNfrOHNPGYuUcUywA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 22/D9-05345-010AAD05; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 06:58:25 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'FOT@autox.team.net Triumph'" Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:58:29 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3jNmkTwYeyxswQRuOM+yZUHYfIxg== Subject: [Fot] Spotted on Cragslist : Triumph Spitfire Engine and other parts in Anaheim, CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know anything about this, but thought perhaps someone might be in need of a spare 1200 engine ... http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/3501074058.html Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 00:06:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3243F40510 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:06:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FF0E4043C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:06:53 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 20656 invoked by uid 0); 23 Dec 2012 15:04:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2012 15:04:57 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=58813 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tmn6n-0006u8-1V; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:04:57 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:05:02 -0600 To: Bobby Whitehead ,FoT Triumph From: Tony Drews References: <1356227198.50786.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Go-Pro / Traqmate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So how DID you get the Traqmate overlay on the GoPro? I'm intrigued! Cheers, Tony At 07:46 PM 12/22/2012, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >Not TRIUMPH.... but racing....cool link with the hardware! > >will this link work? my buddy Dave got the link with the Traqmate and GoPro >figured out.. > > >Bobby > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWwuavBXXE >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 00:10:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1145B4052E for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:10:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from 173-219-117-157.pac.sta.suddenlink.net (unknown [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C83B4043C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:10:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa%13]) with mapi; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:08:56 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: Randall Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:08:54 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Spotted on Cragslist : Triumph Spitfire Engine and other parts in Anaheim, CA Thread-Index: Ac3jN96fHmd/ThJBRu2A7HDhT58tug== References: <22.D9.05345.010AAD05@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net Triumph" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spotted on Cragslist : Triumph Spitfire Engine and other parts in Anaheim, CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bought a spare GT6 motor & trans from him. Decent deal for cores. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2012, at 10:59 PM, "Randall" wrote: > I don't know anything about this, but thought perhaps someone might be in > need of a spare 1200 engine ... > > http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/3501074058.html > > Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 06:16:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F02840519 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 06:16:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F4A40405 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 06:16:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gD8a1k00616AWCUA7DE8mE; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:14:08 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gDE31k0123UuT0T8SDE8Vv; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:14:08 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Tony Drews'" , "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 06:04:12 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3jN1YMu0dw0sWTRQOi13T/GRdhFAAMcRaw s=q20121106; t=1356527648; bh=vclh3510I9KRhEF0dGZYv3eGiDigWR4bUu815nylBpY=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W9DkOgetPs7loTB5y4kXiw3pCpIXLcRt4L3Y4PTCWcdVyHmpUDceyzmKbx3ESRr93 iaoXQ1QTDQuC2+vEj5o+1yQZQbMawRLo9L2aaVhvXZ2XZeshw/HMtuwLZVmD5eUpU1 QewzOcgFSb5ylwo2AhJqVPwF7OsCF/BtGjH+MDuKAysdyyqbWFf4kMR8j15gGv8J8J aAIA7I3xF++DrpIg8ZMO2ItX2NZmgdR7QqOP2OVMuXvFDMsavWkWgY5DhpNAwtOt7Z mVE3/pnkfW7KR35yHD7PWNlyAAaeX/4Cmx4dBbJ8HHKboyIG7vFXF2FOKef/Km3+Rx RbB+/jdHuYYIA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Go-Pro / Traqmate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony, Traqmate offers the sync cable and software for Go Pro HD. I'm not sure how the sync cable works, I use the chase cam with the traqmate. Jim Gray http://store.traqmate.com/HD-Video-Upgrade-p/930022.htm -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:05 AM To: Bobby Whitehead; FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Go-Pro / Traqmate So how DID you get the Traqmate overlay on the GoPro? I'm intrigued! Cheers, Tony At 07:46 PM 12/22/2012, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >Not TRIUMPH.... but racing....cool link with the hardware! > >will this link work? my buddy Dave got the link with the Traqmate and GoPro >figured out.. > > >Bobby > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWwuavBXXE >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 08:33:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765F740541 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 08:33:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f50.google.com (mail-pb0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1835140405 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 08:33:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id wz7so4853488pbc.37 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 07:31:04 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=qItd0O37FLp0nligtsPEBKcn1cO46Kij6x65JgBc7qw=; b=iCKJEc+pIbgizzN/2X9RzvlIUNGWOSft9kANwyQPKhW/AbH27a3w8g0IMt+aCqOOSt 4Y1TfcLo1e09sLn2Xu6QmubaWFWKu5eNi7nvGY/KT3ibcduLenEk4c2g+OAnZM1L2Rh1 DShYwfeb76CwRGMWIHMawFQAtQhA+KiftvAwga71+BuvIbW6jhhBTL1aQsRSqj4Jx3Fo 8sDig7+m2YTwNXVOvHWYEYg0hHitnVUsykf9PKM1BcurAmN9M26+qZi+1gKEr56L3pHu t+B7Wnp88KL66Ke44+750qQwE0iFjDd7xtnhd2sVZhGsn8n/iU8IaHyRWoYsUfk5CEpg ES5Q== s2mr81193426pav.64.1356535864623; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 07:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.108] (cpe-75-80-167-110.san.res.rr.com. [75.80.167.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5sm16686072pay.5.2012.12.26.07.30.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 26 Dec 2012 07:31:03 -0800 (PST) References: <1356227198.50786.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20121226070705.DDF9B40537@autox.team.net> From: Mark Vaden Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 07:30:57 -0800 To: Tony Drews Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Go-Pro / Traqmate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Tony, It looks like they used Traqmate's traqstudio program, which costs an additional $199. You can also use software which I wrote and sell (in the hopes of funding my tr4 racing) called DashWare. DashWare is currently on sale for 39.99 at www.DashWare.net. I am admittedly biased, but Dashware offers way more flexibility. Traqmate only has 2 or 3 dashes where as our software has dozens plus the ability to create more. I have already created triumph tr4 dash overlays and they are installed with DashWare. We have a free trial that lets you do everything but write out your final video. Mark Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > So how DID you get the Traqmate overlay on the GoPro? I'm intrigued! > > Cheers, Tony > > At 07:46 PM 12/22/2012, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> Not TRIUMPH.... but racing....cool link with the hardware! >> >> will this link work? my buddy Dave got the link with the Traqmate and GoPro >> figured out.. >> >> >> Bobby >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWwuavBXXE >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/markvaden@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 12:15:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844644052C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:15:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465DC403F3 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:14:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gFgP1k0070S2fkCACKCzAf; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:12:59 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gKCx1k00b1J37AG8VKCygJ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:12:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:12:56 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1356227198.50786.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20121226070705.DDF9B40537@autox.team.net> <66A93B94-5795-48F6-B7DF-A9392D30BDE2@gmail.com> s=q20121106; t=1356549179; bh=wuySUvIqZ/GC5KCRJeMP21bXSKtYeb1KBdTt/kp4mgw=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=lGFRxNzbolWdgLW4zMB7am6MvB/GL84EKEiQB4kDEu8EeKT6+WMqs3kkXtsUIlsAX A8tv82ip5LgyfQ6elDtMbwSPFBrmOeHbZKxLT3kz5EhbmNoXcizy01XrTZ++Th22mE ieLsGSuCLEvLqOYmRCTGw5Ed6AD38sH3FL9TDgoEbtysEoyZxSiReJPiJJj0Gu8JWB yQTtqkG4n0KUVk18OUEv5xNaGe5SNwbNqxI+OYVksaHjdBeFTUtMuOKIqmfrBKgMLB sdJw0If2kz7btHn/nkAox7iiyZioZpNnqBRKpnmngfFj8V2DFdUeF9V3+WNLaT66Qe m09No05dijtcg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Go-Pro / Traqmate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've just purchased the Dashware software. I used the trial version to synch video from my GoPro and data from my AIM system. It was fun trying out different looks and I'm very happy with the results. My AIM system uses a beacon instead of GPS and it took a while to figure out how to line up the two files, but once I did, it turned out great. On 12/26/2012 7:30 AM, Mark Vaden wrote: > Hi Tony, > > It looks like they used Traqmate's traqstudio program, which costs an > additional $199. > > You can also use software which I wrote and sell (in the hopes of funding my > tr4 racing) called DashWare. DashWare is currently on sale for 39.99 at > www.DashWare.net. I am admittedly biased, but Dashware offers way more > flexibility. Traqmate only has 2 or 3 dashes where as our software has dozens > plus the ability to create more. I have already created triumph tr4 dash > overlays and they are installed with DashWare. We have a free trial that lets > you do everything but write out your final video. > > Mark > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 23, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > >> So how DID you get the Traqmate overlay on the GoPro? I'm intrigued! >> >> Cheers, Tony >> >> At 07:46 PM 12/22/2012, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >>> Not TRIUMPH.... but racing....cool link with the hardware! >>> >>> will this link work? my buddy Dave got the link with the Traqmate and > GoPro >>> figured out.. >>> >>> >>> Bobby >>> >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWwuavBXXE >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/markvaden@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 12:57:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0D9403E7 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:57:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8D3403E7 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:57:12 -0700 (MST) a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:17 a=bADDkjKAeCQA:10 a=394HkWdoBiAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=_7JTipJIsOwA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=bk4Y0NaVAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=lcFKycKxAAAA:8 a=Wv5JMT-h_vqu2_hnkn4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=d2ijSB9aOkYA:10 a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:117 Received: from [70.114.170.59] ([70.114.170.59:49598] helo=BlakePC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 27/75-15459-1265BD05; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:55:14 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: "'EDWARD BARNARD'" , , References: <0CCC7126-67AE-49D6-B8AA-B0185CDB9C22@yahoo.com> <1356468676.95473.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:55:15 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3i4aXAVu6Sz/2LQVmPPr0MsfWlAQAwRAbA Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Triumph Friends of' , 'GregoryBlake' , 'Bob Kramer' , 'GregoryBlake' Subject: Re: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Union Jack of course...did I miss something? Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:51 PM To: jason@multivintage.com; Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com Cc: Bob Kramer; GregoryBlake; Triumph Friends of; GregoryBlake Subject: Re: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. Photos tell a whole story. Bob Kramer and Greg Blake appear to have their attention on something other than the upcoming race. Merry Xmas to all! -Ed- --- On Tue, 12/25/12, Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com wrote: From: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com Subject: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. To: "jason@multivintage.com" Cc: "Triumph Friends of" Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 2:33 PM http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/vintage-racing-shakeups/ Nice pic gents. Happy Holidays. Ty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 17:59:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861B340544 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:59:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1E940441 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:56:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W23 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:54:07 -0800 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:54:07 -0500 FILETIME=[ACF98680:01CDE3CC] Subject: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on the liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head gasket is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and could be probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. Question is, do I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove the cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. It looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they will be challenging based upon some being stripped already. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 18:24:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D2240441 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:24:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C4D40441 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:24:38 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=8tHouHTrIl0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=3WF6GXrgjz8CWDBTiS0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9rbsFo4bvJ4TYab-:21 a=Qjrx4EGPI0HR7jFp:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:57509] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 78/4F-23502-ED2ABD05; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 01:22:38 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'marty sukey'" , "'FOT'" Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:22:34 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac3jzT1OWK7QZ9ctQjmd6X/j+iH0fAAAdlYg Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What I have found through past experience is that with a solid copper head gasket you want the protrusion on the low side of spec and maybe down to .002" The reading you have is way too much for any of the current gaskets. If I surface the top of the block, which is frequently needed I correct the cylinder protrusion by taking off the required length from the seat of the liners. I made a setup on my lathe to make this a fairly easy process since I do a lot of these builds. As far as the crankshaft.... Any reputable crank grinder will as part of the process remove the plugs, grind the crank, thoroughly clean and reinstall new plugs! If you find one that does not follow this process find a new crankshaft grinder. I have noticed a number of decent crank grinders closing shop these days. There are many reasons for this which are understandable in today's economy and lack of engine rebuilds being accomplished. If you do find a good crank grinder spread the word and help these folks out. With the lack of work available and only being able to charge about $250 for a grinding it is very hard to make money when their machines cost around $50k or more. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:54 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] TR4 build questions A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on the liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head gasket is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and could be probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. Question is, do I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove the cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. It looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they will be challenging based upon some being stripped already. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 19:15:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BFF4056C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:15:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE794051B for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:15:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gS3b1k0030vp7WLA2SDcLn; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:13:36 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gSDY1k0033UuT0T8RSDbi0; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:13:36 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: , "'marty sukey'" , "'FOT'" Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:03:27 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3jzT1OWK7QZ9ctQjmd6X/j+iH0fAAAdlYgAAGP2CA= s=q20121106; t=1356574416; bh=DRRTnV/sxzWAfi8L+Ax6nDge/swwVD3mJEUD07QqQNY=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SVZqdaAL9Eptuh0e9Ptz3WoqRy4xeimF4ZRyZGpGyE2Wz+nIn35VErfHJAV5y2rEw DtrbmNdN2ykjSLHuY6hbBG6qeiAr9XGAHqNTs+brhkHo8vXuWsuMCKqmj/gRHp83BQ T1ENkxWxJOrg+xZQmVQBFSMcZjuaMb3KuEbbYkW+2YYWkMCNYbhKoyKWOJSdUm57kY lvA19fET9mCCfDrcjsv0T3gb3x5kcCW2tn6FIa5876R2yAKEta98+rUx91QyCg6inA BHnOHQNOIsLdftE/f7e9B2BMY4837pkq0K7EqhJ0XGA0KQk8o2eEPbOPC44QqomgkY 4r1n3o1IusxGg== Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve & Marty The copper head gasket could be the shim type gasket. The old shim steel gaskets are now shim copper gaskets and are very soft. On the crank plugs I learned early to ask for them to be removed when I get the crank back. My ex-crank grinder never sent it back clean. Always packed with cuttings & debris. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Yott Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:23 PM To: 'marty sukey'; 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions What I have found through past experience is that with a solid copper head gasket you want the protrusion on the low side of spec and maybe down to .002" The reading you have is way too much for any of the current gaskets. If I surface the top of the block, which is frequently needed I correct the cylinder protrusion by taking off the required length from the seat of the liners. I made a setup on my lathe to make this a fairly easy process since I do a lot of these builds. As far as the crankshaft.... Any reputable crank grinder will as part of the process remove the plugs, grind the crank, thoroughly clean and reinstall new plugs! If you find one that does not follow this process find a new crankshaft grinder. I have noticed a number of decent crank grinders closing shop these days. There are many reasons for this which are understandable in today's economy and lack of engine rebuilds being accomplished. If you do find a good crank grinder spread the word and help these folks out. With the lack of work available and only being able to charge about $250 for a grinding it is very hard to make money when their machines cost around $50k or more. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:54 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] TR4 build questions A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on the liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head gasket is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and could be probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. Question is, do I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove the cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. It looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they will be challenging based upon some being stripped already. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 19:37:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247B340654 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:37:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA4B4051B for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:37:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.232.192.221] (246.sub-174-252-176.myvzw.com [174.252.176.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qBR2Z3Vf011896 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:35:06 -0500 References: <20121227021544.7495D40552@autox.team.net> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:35:02 -0500 To: Jim Gray a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=T4P36sT+2UtNexZApgsc6w==:17 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=Iv8eC8cVZDGzFUbHQUcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=4HGvrH9SlZKZCR3M:21 a=M0uRE8ehT2K00nji:21 a=T4P36sT+2UtNexZApgsc6w==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gee whiz guys. Maybe you should consider sending your cranks down here to NASCAR country. These guys do it right. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2012, at 9:03 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > Steve & Marty > The copper head gasket could be the shim type gasket. The old shim steel > gaskets are now shim copper gaskets and are very soft. > On the crank plugs I learned early to ask for them to be removed when > I get the crank back. My ex-crank grinder never sent it back clean. > Always packed with cuttings & debris. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Steve Yott > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:23 PM > To: 'marty sukey'; 'FOT' > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > What I have found through past experience is that with a solid copper head > gasket you want the protrusion on the low side of spec and maybe down to > .002" The reading you have is way too much for any of the current gaskets. > If I surface the top of the block, which is frequently needed I correct the > cylinder protrusion by taking off the required length from the seat of the > liners. I made a setup on my lathe to make this a fairly easy process since > I do a lot of these builds. > > As far as the crankshaft.... Any reputable crank grinder will as part of the > process remove the plugs, grind the crank, thoroughly clean and reinstall > new plugs! If you find one that does not follow this process find a new > crankshaft grinder. I have noticed a number of decent crank grinders > closing shop these days. There are many reasons for this which are > understandable in today's economy and lack of engine rebuilds being > accomplished. If you do find a good crank grinder spread the word and help > these folks out. With the lack of work available and only being able to > charge about $250 for a grinding it is very hard to make money when their > machines cost around $50k or more. > > Steve Yott > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of marty sukey > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:54 PM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on > the liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a > HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head > gasket is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and > could be probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. > Question is, do I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? > > Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove > the cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. > It looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of > the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they > will be challenging based upon some being stripped already. > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 19:37:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8398140552 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:37:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f173.google.com (mail-ia0-f173.google.com [209.85.210.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5034056B for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:37:17 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f173.google.com with SMTP id w21so7662905iac.32 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:35:17 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=83Z1hlXBz7CzIvwhQ/Opm2DWJ6LZ2wnEz8H0CUqDNf8=; b=ivVmiQGvyRnkRFMiiNvIaEE84eB79d+NAGaDeHeBTmc/wprVDJFZL6mo6b0JualFnL EeDHnDgZJpXunsUeN2cEopnbw3psX9y8SAnIcBozyK/EVN2R6jkhN9X+Cybesmw/xWWF YOcapVp9H6OmS0KP/z0APpCANA0vna29ZvF0klcH9dYbyJ/uTYp3qrywGM9Ugz1WXk3v VQgS/fOcNIbkphAr5PgFiDLAY4cdl4AC3G2xMN2U4krHAz42ehK966JFVQbVrTw7Qh0M v6Cjgf/RqA7hrPiCvGkytR2OH7XfVb7CtK1/Vw2xRhhfTG8OhyPXMB8RRdiAD6+jQdJP 9r5A== Received: by 10.42.46.141 with SMTP id k13mr22256114icf.46.1356575717053; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.128.15 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:35:16 -0800 (PST) References: <0CCC7126-67AE-49D6-B8AA-B0185CDB9C22@yahoo.com> <1356468676.95473.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <001801cde3a2$ecc7da20$c6578e60$@rr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:35:16 -0500 From: John Styduhar To: "Greg & Alison Blake" Cc: GregoryBlake , GregoryBlake , Bob Kramer , Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic Motorsports Article. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John Hastey missed something too! On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > The Union Jack of course...did I miss something? > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:51 PM > To: jason@multivintage.com; Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com > Cc: Bob Kramer; GregoryBlake; Triumph Friends of; GregoryBlake > Subject: Re: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic > Motorsports Article. > > Photos tell a whole story. Bob Kramer and Greg Blake appear to have their > attention on something other than the upcoming race. > Merry Xmas to all! > -Ed- > > --- On Tue, 12/25/12, Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com > wrote: > > > From: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com > Subject: [Fot] Just saw Jason and a gaggle of Triumphs in Classic > Motorsports Article. > To: "jason@multivintage.com" > Cc: "Triumph Friends of" > Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 2:33 PM > > > http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/vintage-racing-shakeups/ > > Nice pic gents. > > Happy Holidays. > > Ty > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 19:44:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDCA4068C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:44:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13FB4006E for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:44:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU0-SMTP61 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:42:44 -0800 Received: from [10.235.219.255] ([174.255.50.246]) by BLU0-SMTP61.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:42:42 -0800 From: "trmarty@hotmail.com" To: "John Hasty", "Jim Gray" Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:42:58 -0500 References: <20121227021544.7495D40552@autox.team.net> <9EC3C3DB-8A2F-46B4-A1CC-3DCA44DC6F13@gdhs.com> FILETIME=[D82B45F0:01CDE3DB] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Car probably would not be able to turn right any more if we did that :) Marty Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wirelessb" -----Original message----- From: John Hasty To: Jim Gray Cc: "" , marty sukey , FOT Sent: Thu, Dec 27, 2012 02:35:02 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Gee whiz guys. Maybe you should consider sending your cranks down here to NASCAR country. These guys do it right. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2012, at 9:03 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > Steve & Marty > The copper head gasket could be the shim type gasket. The old shim steel > gaskets are now shim copper gaskets and are very soft. > On the crank plugs I learned early to ask for them to be removed when > I get the crank back. My ex-crank grinder never sent it back clean. > Always packed with cuttings & debris. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Steve Yott > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:23 PM > To: 'marty sukey'; 'FOT' > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > What I have found through past experience is that with a solid copper head > gasket you want the protrusion on the low side of spec and maybe down to > .002" The reading you have is way too much for any of the current gaskets. > If I surface the top of the block, which is frequently needed I correct the > cylinder protrusion by taking off the required length from the seat of the > liners. I made a setup on my lathe to make this a fairly easy process since > I do a lot of these builds. > > As far as the crankshaft.... Any reputable crank grinder will as part of the > process remove the plugs, grind the crank, thoroughly clean and reinstall > new plugs! If you find one that does not follow this process find a new > crankshaft grinder. I have noticed a number of decent crank grinders > closing shop these days. There are many reasons for this which are > understandable in today's economy and lack of engine rebuilds being > accomplished. If you do find a good crank grinder spread the word and help > these folks out. With the lack of work available and only being able to > charge about $250 for a grinding it is very hard to make money when their > machines cost around $50k or more. > > Steve Yott > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of marty sukey > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:54 PM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on > the liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a > HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head > gasket is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and > could be probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. > Question is, do I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? > > Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove > the cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. > It looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of > the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they > will be challenging based upon some being stripped already. > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 20:03:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3F24056D for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:03:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBC04051B for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:03:21 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=8tHouHTrIl0A:10 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=p5DjJYvGTEN5pRZzSCMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=Y_8fBiEKeJuTvCVL:21 a=VrOhVVbLwTREpBd2:21 a=2IzyRfBAu9glFyWImmsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=_BDAXGbJ2kprc1zH:21 a=Mi18pQAOHl3426zM:21 a=pm7Zy1PM-Uc4ypz0:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:57886] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 76/A0-26019-10ABBD05; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 03:01:21 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: , "'John Hasty'" , "'Jim Gray'" Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:01:18 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac3j29qxF6d6RvwkTH+2Sigp26IZFAAAoqcg Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Now that's funny! Steve _____ From: trmarty@hotmail.com [mailto:trmarty@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:43 PM To: John Hasty; Jim Gray Cc: ; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Car probably would not be able to turn right any more if we did that :) Marty Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon WirelessT -----Original message----- From: John Hasty To: Jim Gray Cc: "" , marty sukey , FOT Sent: Thu, Dec 27, 2012 02:35:02 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Gee whiz guys. Maybe you should consider sending your cranks down here to NASCAR country. These guys do it right. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2012, at 9:03 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > Steve & Marty > The copper head gasket could be the shim type gasket. The old shim steel > gaskets are now shim copper gaskets and are very soft. > On the crank plugs I learned early to ask for them to be removed when > I get the crank back. My ex-crank grinder never sent it back clean. > Always packed with cuttings & debris. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Steve Yott > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:23 PM > To: 'marty sukey'; 'FOT' > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > What I have found through past experience is that with a solid copper head > gasket you want the protrusion on the low side of spec and maybe down to > .002" The reading you have is way too much for any of the current gaskets. > If I surface the top of the block, which is frequently needed I correct the > cylinder protrusion by taking off the required length from the seat of the > liners. I made a setup on my lathe to make this a fairly easy process since > I do a lot of these builds. > > As far as the crankshaft.... Any reputable crank grinder will as part of the > process remove the plugs, grind the crank, thoroughly clean and reinstall > new plugs! If you find one that does not follow this process find a new > crankshaft grinder. I have noticed a number of decent crank grinders > closing shop these days. There are many reasons for this which are > understandable in today's economy and lack of engine rebuilds being > accomplished. If you do find a good crank grinder spread the word and help > these folks out. With the lack of work available and only being able to > charge about $250 for a grinding it is very hard to make money when their > machines cost around $50k or more. > > Steve Yott > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of marty sukey > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:54 PM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on > the liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a > HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head > gasket is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and > could be probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. > Question is, do I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? > > Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove > the cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. > It looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of > the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they > will be challenging based upon some being stripped already. > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 20:48:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6104051C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:48:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43C74051C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:47:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.232.192.221] (246.sub-174-252-176.myvzw.com [174.252.176.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qBR3jYcI025449 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:45:36 -0500 References: <76.A0.26019.10ABBD05@hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:45:32 -0500 To: "" a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=T4P36sT+2UtNexZApgsc6w==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=wTUeLF7RTjBhL2-nGd8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=fuhODpB9P_JGvAHN:21 a=GEIX5KrkKjRMfQSz:21 a=2IzyRfBAu9glFyWImmsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=MZFSYypniuR05PQB:21 a=T4P36sT+2UtNexZApgsc6w==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ok you guys. Remember Sears Point & Watkins Glen & if you are mature enough Riverside oh and 24 hrs @ Daytona. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2012, at 10:01 PM, "Steve Yott" wrote: > Now that's funny! > Steve > > From: trmarty@hotmail.com [mailto:trmarty@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:43 PM > To: John Hasty; Jim Gray > Cc: ; FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > Car probably would not be able to turn right any more if we did that :) > > Marty > > Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wirelessb" > > > -----Original message----- > From: John Hasty > To: Jim Gray > Cc: "" , marty sukey , FOT > Sent: Thu, Dec 27, 2012 02:35:02 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > Gee whiz guys. Maybe you should consider sending your cranks down here to NASCAR country. These guys do it right. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 26, 2012, at 9:03 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > > > Steve & Marty > > The copper head gasket could be the shim type gasket. The old shim steel > > gaskets are now shim copper gaskets and are very soft. > > On the crank plugs I learned early to ask for them to be removed when > > I get the crank back. My ex-crank grinder never sent it back clean. > > Always packed with cuttings & debris. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > > Behalf Of Steve Yott > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:23 PM > > To: 'marty sukey'; 'FOT' > > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > > > What I have found through past experience is that with a solid copper head > > gasket you want the protrusion on the low side of spec and maybe down to > > .002" The reading you have is way too much for any of the current gaskets. > > If I surface the top of the block, which is frequently needed I correct the > > cylinder protrusion by taking off the required length from the seat of the > > liners. I made a setup on my lathe to make this a fairly easy process since > > I do a lot of these builds. > > > > As far as the crankshaft.... Any reputable crank grinder will as part of the > > process remove the plugs, grind the crank, thoroughly clean and reinstall > > new plugs! If you find one that does not follow this process find a new > > crankshaft grinder. I have noticed a number of decent crank grinders > > closing shop these days. There are many reasons for this which are > > understandable in today's economy and lack of engine rebuilds being > > accomplished. If you do find a good crank grinder spread the word and help > > these folks out. With the lack of work available and only being able to > > charge about $250 for a grinding it is very hard to make money when their > > machines cost around $50k or more. > > > > Steve Yott > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > > Behalf Of marty sukey > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:54 PM > > To: FOT > > Subject: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > > > A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on > > the liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a > > HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head > > gasket is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and > > could be probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. > > Question is, do I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? > > > > Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove > > the cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. > > It looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of > > the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they > > will be challenging based upon some being stripped already. > > > > Thanks, > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 21:55:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132314056D for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:55:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0224051C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:54:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.175] by nm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2012 04:52:52 -0000 Received: from [98.136.185.192] by tm14.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2012 04:52:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2012 04:52:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356583972; bh=NfydbOcXHFAm8rmyNRDZwpGN1c2D2AoaMuJVYIV4t4g=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=D04TnVN2WOS3gjDZwIwVS0/1GCpbY9ScfXbpS5V7bJoefTy9FkNMpcSSs9lUxfp4nVqSoDF7lvSG+8+7MndezfG9LYOAhwFWAEXziAK6geKhhzEzqWChqW8GadGZKtCz9cmzNja2mQ/rVOR5nr5Eg9ka8P5XgPzd2FAyTZGdHnQ= WJ0vfdsiAIuNA__TvZsmcXGpZ_9ZE3WTCfcXc5uagmG1TmIAcyoxBuJurnik jZsTRRgD3bQSCntqGR21amFGU6YSNsoR_gyZd9zynPCCHSu3ZsImsTxs87LK byb7v9V_9nME_UKASsBNQAARCloqu_aJLx2OLKyUUp_.Cd.aeGhcWfK907Xj yKXNEmyCCsOjMJLv7ynOhQQS0ftcybowPBfo2aFRK0BmptXHPtg8DQ69Ot.. UuPK2WkMRsLNXRciSpyLFCjGHmizqqWZSPPico8lEqrAqgawebkyI028SUyE NCKHiEMj3NBk0sZFOAGJeo7RUc7SjFMkN8.hqSzgQb8Y5LsukFXJcXvW.2Dq fprklPuJav8CipyDkxFXGx3EImjoDotQS.3vB9IY2r0uvPY8seKutrxM8_KT OYaKYs0FAFMn..hQkICrbX2aS6TVKOONUYASrXGFanpP0gI8NMGTugwPTCbf aB5.bL3mZ8.ltWiZLbmkg1MGPq8VBwFhmGVL2.Fvuvg-- Received: from [192.168.1.67] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with xymcookie) by smtp101-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2012 20:52:51 -0800 PST References: From: Dennis Delap Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:53:04 -0600 To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty - I like to make the figure 8 gaskets from sheets of brass with the thickness that will get protrusion into spec. D On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:54 PM, marty sukey wrote: > A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on the > liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a HP > street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head gasket > is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and could be > probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. Question is, do > I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? > > Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove the > cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. It > looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of the > hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they will > be challenging based upon some being stripped already. > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 26 22:34:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876CF40555 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:34:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A303340532 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:34:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.51]) by cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20121227012745549.UTJZ23036@cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 01:27:45 +0000 Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=EepJuos3RV3yUnGGM9z3Pw==:17 a=WKdJdOg5100A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=8tHouHTrIl0A:10 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=He8OrEZ4bdtO0sm9pewA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=EepJuos3RV3yUnGGM9z3Pw==:117 Received: from [166.137.123.66] ([166.137.123.66:60450] helo=[10.153.23.89]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 08/3E-04255-CC3ABD05; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 01:26:37 +0000 References: From: Bob Kramer Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:26:35 -0600 To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Make sure you measure protrusion after setting a head on top. I set it all up dry and run nuts down all the studs. You may find out that you have less protrusion than you first measured. The steel figure 8's are stamped and press down to around .0155". If you still have more than .005" you will need to have custom gaskets made. Mordy Dunst "Gasket Works" makes them. Cleaning the crank without pulling the plugs is a guessing game. Get them out before spending money on the crank! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:54 PM, marty sukey wrote: > A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on the > liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a HP > street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head gasket > is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and could be > probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. Question is, do > I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? > > Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove the > cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. It > looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of the > hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they will > be challenging based upon some being stripped already. > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 27 09:17:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C1D42277 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:17:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595DB40EAE for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:16:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2012 16:14:14 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.230] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2012 16:14:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2012 16:14:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356624853; bh=FRdjHWLmOW3aAia83neDK/fNxfN43hVRCx+a2QxXQJo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=470Ohu/pKtKiJ+fGPdOL63fUBiOZZHrkoVA0KBXHzXd1p3sj63eikX9n7YZ3rgB5ia/F42Bl5lbZ5LMXRooXsaoYFMcBA4G67HKmtjKAvkFYi8dTX5GWZ8i+SIPdTsfBJun698rOd3ixol0vx3Ow59+U8S6gtq54Vj0VspZe8zE= bMdPlpHOOSMFjwpAvRb8oGj81.pwk4dX.je4oXKx25QCSn8pfhDDx4xPBdI7 rQQjSUa7gFpxi1PCXzFZM1GzYohi7H1mg2oeLweSywekmrLjj76wzmoI.0AY DgG_PEfJkKHKh1gxR6NYJHiBabl._A9XWLcB_E8e.OFBEGssE.BXT2gdoB4f ooraTue3P4TtW484eIU43.oQoV3U97efLJj0dq.71lFXViq_Gx5_eTzXiMs4 bHe96DkSCKArgyBurkt9eYg0VGZFCAai5ig_UOyNMasRO74ayjnJmpo7JLhN Nwkfw3Fx1dRwJ_vPiMECgaeZ50MlgdjfefYy6bua5J81RF5dXz8K0Hh_KTCL 9qGaDbZ5YhA4OlTa98.bgLumR6_JikpgERZNPznQ8lFvGYPT5tAeKPcJsI0p tAEBM_mKKfZMaww27934ZPuyOW8WBPJfRAdEyYYlq8BYRasLeRHMxyZNhy0V aRznJMSkOW6GA_PZKvZN053Rf7vWZ7NkLpfpuJNdfHRhB Received: from [192.168.1.67] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with xymcookie) by smtp109-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2012 08:14:13 -0800 PST References: <8E26F184-11A6-4486-A55A-7C6D4930FA23@austin.rr.com> From: Dennis Delap Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:14:26 -0600 To: Bob Kramer Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Speaking of the figure 8 gasket - what are you all using as a sealant these days? On Dec 26, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Make sure you measure protrusion after setting a head on top. I set it all up > dry and run nuts down all the studs. You may find out that you have less > protrusion than you first measured. The steel figure 8's are stamped and press > down to around .0155". If you still have more than .005" you will need to have > custom gaskets made. Mordy Dunst "Gasket Works" makes them. > > Cleaning the crank without pulling the plugs is a guessing game. Get them out > before spending money on the crank! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:54 PM, marty sukey wrote: > >> A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am working on > the >> liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is a HP >> street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. Head > gasket >> is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and could > be >> probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. Question is, > do >> I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? >> >> Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to remove > the >> cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. It >> looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple of the >> hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm thinking they > will >> be challenging based upon some being stripped already. >> >> Thanks, >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 27 09:48:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07375422A5 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:48:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C988F4226D for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:47:24 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=8tHouHTrIl0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=4LpsHS-kC6oiMQ9p2UMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:62263] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 5E/73-23502-12B7CD05; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:45:21 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Dennis Delap'" , "'Bob Kramer'" Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:45:19 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac3kTV2+tB2aAwgkSq6yks+WKdfyLgAA9d+w Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use a thin layer of the "Right Stuff".... I put that crap on everything!!!! As per the lady in the hot sauce commercial... Since it takes awhile to get everything in place and bolted down you don't want to use a fast set gasket sealer. I really like the Right Stuff as it will not fail you and does take a little while to setup. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Delap Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:14 AM To: Bob Kramer Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Speaking of the figure 8 gasket - what are you all using as a sealant these days? On Dec 26, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Make sure you measure protrusion after setting a head on top. I set it > all up > dry and run nuts down all the studs. You may find out that you have > less protrusion than you first measured. The steel figure 8's are > stamped and press > down to around .0155". If you still have more than .005" you will need > to have > custom gaskets made. Mordy Dunst "Gasket Works" makes them. > > Cleaning the crank without pulling the plugs is a guessing game. Get > them out > before spending money on the crank! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:54 PM, marty sukey wrote: > >> A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am >> working on > the >> liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is >> a HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. >> Head > gasket >> is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and could > be >> probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. >> Question is, > do >> I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? >> >> Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to >> remove > the >> cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. It >> looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple >> of the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm >> thinking they > will >> be challenging based upon some being stripped already. >> >> Thanks, >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 27 11:20:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33764226D for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:20:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBD540560 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:20:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([unknown] [96.251.6.67]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MFP00DX2C5PKJ80@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:17:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:18:06 -0800 From: Kurt Oblinger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] So Cal Machine Shop Recommendation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looking for recommendations for machine work for a GT6 engine. Just typical rebuild work; clean the block, check the crank bore and align bore if needed, turn the crank, balance, etc, etc. Prefer the So. Bay, Redondo, Torrance area or possibly Long Beach. TIA, Kurt Oblinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 27 14:19:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3071A4245A for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:19:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8634E40450 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:18:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.54]) by cdptpa-qmta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20121227164934771.GFMK21006@cdptpa-qmta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:49:34 +0000 Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=EepJuos3RV3yUnGGM9z3Pw==:17 a=WKdJdOg5100A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=8tHouHTrIl0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=MzLDVuO8Fp2DrI_0_mkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=EepJuos3RV3yUnGGM9z3Pw==:117 Received: from [166.137.123.66] ([166.137.123.66:32809] helo=[10.153.23.89]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 1A/35-29976-0EB7CD05; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:48:33 +0000 References: <5E.73.23502.12B7CD05@hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:48:29 -0600 To: "" Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I settled on Hylomar blue in a tube. It self heals and I spread it on thin between two fingers. I used to use aerosol Hylomar for head gaskets when it was available. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2012, at 10:45 AM, "Steve Yott" wrote: > I use a thin layer of the "Right Stuff".... I put that crap on > everything!!!! As per the lady in the hot sauce commercial... > > Since it takes awhile to get everything in place and bolted down you don't > want to use a fast set gasket sealer. I really like the Right Stuff as it > will not fail you and does take a little while to setup. > > Steve Yott > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Dennis Delap > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:14 AM > To: Bob Kramer > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > Speaking of the figure 8 gasket - what are you all using as a sealant these > days? > > > On Dec 26, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> Make sure you measure protrusion after setting a head on top. I set it >> all > up >> dry and run nuts down all the studs. You may find out that you have >> less protrusion than you first measured. The steel figure 8's are >> stamped and > press >> down to around .0155". If you still have more than .005" you will need >> to > have >> custom gaskets made. Mordy Dunst "Gasket Works" makes them. >> >> Cleaning the crank without pulling the plugs is a guessing game. Get >> them > out >> before spending money on the crank! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:54 PM, marty sukey wrote: >> >>> A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am >>> working on >> the >>> liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is >>> a HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. >>> Head >> gasket >>> is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and > could >> be >>> probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. >>> Question > is, >> do >>> I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? >>> >>> Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to >>> remove >> the >>> cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. > It >>> looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple >>> of the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm >>> thinking they >> will >>> be challenging based upon some being stripped already. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 27 18:38:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B224246D for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 18:38:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEB2407AD for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 18:38:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2012 01:36:03 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2012 01:36:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2012 01:36:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 8971 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Dec 2012 01:36:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356658562; bh=V/4YZ/VbcZdZFTORmn2D84bIPbJZKs1dxDkVLyKegIM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i1TP6+9GM2UGHKJBlRUj4MdWlD2ViHPTFVGhZ8XmWYdnTtwZVn9jyV1ZKfYLeoSQKHIY8izWPnoSYRBYXZM5kY5UvZpvKuy3I43Bk2BLc2awfu1pb0VUSbSd7k2f4w304MwYQzgSMviucFw/MPO9Ep5+gOAf1YrGeWgoBwQGiFc= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sRGb1N53hYqEXPVZBJLf97K1wCI4q2iZps0GemUi3VCJM+fZ1mF3/+T/qxduasEmVVjEuGUkCV1Pmakp318WhMtls5ifhborAh49Xr6a3yKiyUR0dz59aQIiwCHpGWjKopiWzUhdNjHeac1rr/XqsLq+UXS+wz7SR+7qNYhc6l0=; gk5Df0ovo_Th9zG6TOkypWHcvvtL2OJCzhyQiU0Smh0tDz65VRYsbRqQGVjv m.2e6Kd.8ukq68aG5RMX0dJU09eAD61djC2kY7mu8oOJcLH3ls5Tdsgdr8f2 _cH4Fupoml4P0lt3uBw5Foh7YXlqLhC853IvGOG5POzxriCH57KDzQPb7dpQ rv5W4VNEazverTsZcey_wDMtkVM9lMEeWecksRtmTcO6jG6_IGv.EoBVre31 YWJyKDMlDcOjiXvixBLi2RLnEtnlcBci8zOUOSq_u3Nu24IHyUSRGXhllGOz gOZbwu_snY89B2dSwhHjZpNTPlyl_XB4fGEJCxK_LeIox_sZZu6gjbWFuyK5 uREMSou9UDfRBQnqyTeCnMF_Ba8yKr2w_f7yg8zNu6yxh5qdtR2STat_bRM0 s2lY3wKy_fP3X.O6RfeLKCiEZPJZTvyfpB_cU6nc4gby5blYclVpfa2TukWK eWhln028- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:36:01 PST YWxzbyBvbiB0aGUgaHVudCBmb3IgYSBtYWNoaW5lIHNob3AgdGhhdCBjYW4gZG8gdGhlIGxvbmcgbGluZSBib3JpbmcgcHJvY2VkdXJlIAp0byBhbGxvdyBjYW0gYmVhcmluZ3MgZm9yIHRoZSBHVDYuLi4KCkJvYmJ5CgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiBLdXJ0IE9ibGluZ2VyIDxrb2JsaW5nZXJAdmVyaXpvbi5uZXQ.ClRvOiBGcmllbmRzIG9mIFRyaXVtcGggPGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4KU2VudDogVGh1LCBEZWNlbWJlciAyNywgMjAxMiAxMjoxOToxOSBQTQoBMAEBAQE- References: <50DC90DE.2050709@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:36:01 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Kurt Oblinger Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] So Cal Machine Shop Recommendation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net also on the hunt for a machine shop that can do the long line boring procedure to allow cam bearings for the GT6... Bobby ________________________________ From: Kurt Oblinger To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, December 27, 2012 12:19:19 PM Subject: [Fot] So Cal Machine Shop Recommendation Looking for recommendations for machine work for a GT6 engine. Just typical rebuild work; clean the block, check the crank bore and align bore if needed, turn the crank, balance, etc, etc. Prefer the So. Bay, Redondo, Torrance area or possibly Long Beach. TIA, Kurt Oblinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 28 04:11:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4724253C for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 04:11:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f42.google.com (mail-bk0-f42.google.com [209.85.214.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7634424C4 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 04:10:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f42.google.com with SMTP id ji2so4640035bkc.15 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 03:08:38 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=d/hRqsMY7jqrWdvePUbJNwUTYU98bufssyaxdkW04S4=; b=rHGVwzMiVItJXG9rRr9bJJ6kC7/uKy97bi0g7Tcdq4tOhg+GLrlJw918psRYmF74kv da21/lRHNBsUcVoPpbhIXs946wbBQogM/pRXx/sVuCl5WMQKjkHKY9e/+nOPF/OSRuJ6 Y292XLH9Wk4mLnFoPAdqnDxd2qob5aNYbAyPl+i4Z+RYD18H/OQFF/whprxT3yLdP1tC Ei2x26XqaivYAIhVRC3sPbHmK5IUBeEMWDEaEPX5ecYq+nrMpI56vOYEnB89d2F4Hg55 /HUW1ZQrqYiv87SurcdUdvNz4UPndE9NyBMqPPZTFDMvXj5nDh2tPkehdUu6F0S6myWE PPJg== 13mr16393789bkw.111.1356692918025; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 03:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-41-82-240.web.vodafone.de. [109.41.82.240]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hm8sm22445898bkc.10.2012.12.28.03.08.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 28 Dec 2012 03:08:37 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Dennis Delap'" , "'Bob Kramer'" References: <8E26F184-11A6-4486-A55A-7C6D4930FA23@austin.rr.com> <36CBEC8D-BC6D-4723-A2F9-E2FE7E54C35F@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:08:32 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3kTV5XPUDs7SmgTzqtbsc/X+S1DgAnf2Iw Content-Language: de Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As these fig-8 gaskets to corrode quickly I install them in a way that NO water can reach them. A thick layer of silicone on the block surface and a thick layer of silicone on the sleeve foot. Never a drop get past this barrier. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Dennis Delap Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2012 17:14 An: Bob Kramer Cc: FOT Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Speaking of the figure 8 gasket - what are you all using as a sealant these days? On Dec 26, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Make sure you measure protrusion after setting a head on top. I set it > all up > dry and run nuts down all the studs. You may find out that you have > less protrusion than you first measured. The steel figure 8's are > stamped and press > down to around .0155". If you still have more than .005" you will need > to have > custom gaskets made. Mordy Dunst "Gasket Works" makes them. > > Cleaning the crank without pulling the plugs is a guessing game. Get > them out > before spending money on the crank! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:54 PM, marty sukey wrote: > >> A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am >> working on > the >> liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This is >> a HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new sleeves. >> Head > gasket >> is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel and could > be >> probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. >> Question is, > do >> I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? >> >> Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to >> remove > the >> cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out sufficiently. It >> looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple >> of the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm >> thinking they > will >> be challenging based upon some being stripped already. >> >> Thanks, >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 28 10:20:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A69D4226D for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:20:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5FB42560 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:19:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id h54z1k0031bwxycAA5GsFr; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:16:52 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.72] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id h5Gp1k00X4L5TyG8e5GqAR; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:16:51 +0000 From: Bud R To: tr4@wi.rr.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:16:49 -0700 References: <5E.73.23502.12B7CD05@hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com> s=q20121106; t=1356715012; bh=rqVUnsLbPlg8c7/GtxjfcSyPs5vDMLlGi/uNty9T9Ps=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=VrfYsT+ELpRN2rUMftUfs96IQrw5b0jqsrUtfR2W7Wm9wWaQkPThwVmcAhGB1rH7I dcxe0ffeVDuYJDEZJG9NAom7IZ9/yEtVIYEBUo1l6T+DY2BOLjnGSE2WFOEsyWyDBN +HFk9Ku48z7qqWacqMiWmC00EpjqlPF+zu8bSqMgIZBsib9DxX300Kw35p6zRb/Jjf 6erJ4TqOPk6GpRhUuQPFhW3mTL7nnmFQRuLWnYT9Uz3zw+Goizqijq009FAUtiGYmf DvNbgFGo5M2+25m1A69sSx33k/CUBG2SO5y43Xg2JPtm6DQlgc2EHdevcK0+xTdLFC D9SLMbd3mIeZw== Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm a "Right Stuff" user too. It works great and I've even used it to stop leaks on the outer edge of a timing cover that I didn't have the time or inclination to go through the whole process of removing all the things needed to pull the cover. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Dec 27, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Steve Yott wrote: > I use a thin layer of the "Right Stuff".... I put that crap on > everything!!!! As per the lady in the hot sauce commercial... > > Since it takes awhile to get everything in place and bolted down you > don't > want to use a fast set gasket sealer. I really like the Right Stuff > as it > will not fail you and does take a little while to setup. > > Steve Yott > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Dennis Delap > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:14 AM > To: Bob Kramer > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > Speaking of the figure 8 gasket - what are you all using as a > sealant these > days? > > > On Dec 26, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Bob Kramer > wrote: > >> Make sure you measure protrusion after setting a head on top. I set >> it >> all > up >> dry and run nuts down all the studs. You may find out that you have >> less protrusion than you first measured. The steel figure 8's are >> stamped and > press >> down to around .0155". If you still have more than .005" you will >> need >> to > have >> custom gaskets made. Mordy Dunst "Gasket Works" makes them. >> >> Cleaning the crank without pulling the plugs is a guessing game. Get >> them > out >> before spending money on the crank! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:54 PM, marty sukey wrote: >> >>> A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am >>> working on >> the >>> liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This >>> is >>> a HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new >>> sleeves. >>> Head >> gasket >>> is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel >>> and > could >> be >>> probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. >>> Question > is, >> do >>> I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? >>> >>> Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to >>> remove >> the >>> cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out >>> sufficiently. > It >>> looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple >>> of the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm >>> thinking they >> will >>> be challenging based upon some being stripped already. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 28 15:23:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81033426DF for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:23:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C50425AE for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:23:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W53 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:21:40 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: fot Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:21:39 +0000 References: , <2C0D3EB1-529F-4D0E-8E10-814CCC9F9BDD@mac.com> FILETIME=[B5674630:01CDE549] Subject: [Fot] FW: V-12 DIESEL ENGINE THAT FITS IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just when you begain to feel smug about your machining and engine building, you see a master and his acomplishment. Never be beaten by equipment Begin forwarded message: Subject: V-12 DIESEL ENGINE THAT FITS IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND Date: December 28, 2012 12:24:15 PM PST ; YOU HAVE GOT TO WATCH THIS CLIP, ITS AMAZING VIDEO OF TRUE CRAFTSMANSHIP. AN OPERATIONAL V-12 DIESEL ENGINE THAT FITS IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND. This is not CNC Technology; this guy made everything at home on his lathe and drill press. Took 1220 hours to make the 261 pieces. Note the end-loaded crankshaft into the block (like an Offy), 12 individual cylinder heads, TINY rods and pistons, dual "underhead" cams with pushrods to rockers in the heads. And, he did break-in runs using an electric drill driving the crankshaft! Even if you're not an engineer, you'll love this! www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 28 16:23:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF49425B7 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:23:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1B440E4C for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:23:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY164-DS7 ([65.54.190.123]) by bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:20:58 -0800 From: "Terry Stetler" To: "fot" , "Kas Kastner" References: , <2C0D3EB1-529F-4D0E-8E10-814CCC9F9BDD@mac.com> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:20:56 -0500 <2C0D3EB1-529F-4D0E-8E10-814CCC9F9BDD@mac.com> Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:20:56 -0500 FILETIME=[FE07D410:01CDE551] Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: V-12 DIESEL ENGINE THAT FITS IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net He has also built an amazing radial aircraft engine as well. Both are actually powered by compressed air. If he would connect to a small boiler he would have a very advanced poppet valve steam engine. Incredible piece of work. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 5:21 PM Subject: [Fot] FW: V-12 DIESEL ENGINE THAT FITS IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND Just when you begain to feel smug about your machining and engine building, you see a master and his acomplishment. Never be beaten by equipment Begin forwarded message: Subject: V-12 DIESEL ENGINE THAT FITS IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND Date: December 28, 2012 12:24:15 PM PST ; YOU HAVE GOT TO WATCH THIS CLIP, ITS AMAZING VIDEO OF TRUE CRAFTSMANSHIP. AN OPERATIONAL V-12 DIESEL ENGINE THAT FITS IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND. This is not CNC Technology; this guy made everything at home on his lathe and drill press. Took 1220 hours to make the 261 pieces. Note the end-loaded crankshaft into the block (like an Offy), 12 individual cylinder heads, TINY rods and pistons, dual "underhead" cams with pushrods to rockers in the heads. And, he did break-in runs using an electric drill driving the crankshaft! Even if you're not an engineer, you'll love this! www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/ _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 29 08:29:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1499A4051F for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 08:29:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout11.eigbox.net (bosmailout11.eigbox.net [66.96.189.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F89D4051D for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 08:28:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan16.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.16]) by bosmailout11.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1ToLrE-0005CC-NL for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:23:20 -0500 Received: from bosimpout01.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.1]) by bosmailscan16.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1ToLrE-00048L-66; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:23:20 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp01.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.1]) by bosimpout01.eigbox.net with NO UCE id gmPL1k00C01P9Sa01mPLdg; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:23:20 -0500 a=ZP/C8iKN44S7o9el8de7CQ==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=W7ZvMKEtbN0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=JO41V1u-aIQA:10 a=kLx2wTktAAAA:20 a=Uni6U-BBAAAA:20 a=UBAuBrPeAAAA:20 a=o8DgRfB2AAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=3x9-kGuKAAAA:20 a=lL6heK2JAAAA:20 a=JZ7jsXVcAAAA:20 a=jDOr-_nfAAAA:20 a=QtS3BjH3FK85kb9M30oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=-g8GR5j6wfEA:10 a=EY760dLvfnkA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=FLmnjis/JmE4jomwi6pJ+A==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-90-53.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.90.53] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp01.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1ToLrE-00036q-76; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:23:20 -0500 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Kurt Oblinger'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <50DC90DE.2050709@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:22:55 -0600 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac3kXpAkO7Y6jz28R/66jE0KJTDsDgAIF9Sg Subject: Re: [Fot] So Cal Machine Shop Recommendation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There is only one place to go: Costa Mesa R&D 123 Monte Vista Avenue, Costa Mesa, CA 92627 (949) 631-6376 John Edwards John is an amazing machinist who actually wrote the book on how to re-build engines. John is also famous for his YouTube videos under the name of "fiatnutz" where he showcases some the innovative methods he had developed over the years. Additionally he has developed a custom bee-hive valve spring for use on Spitfire race engines. I have them on one of my heads and he can put them on you GT6 head as well. Some videos for Triumphs: Spitfire Bee-hive springs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLlY0sTYYBY Bee-hive spring retainer mods: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTjApt0hOlk Spitfire con rod mods: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-RkCY4Gl9c Rocker Arm Rebuilding for the Triumph Spitfire : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7APJucC0RD0 I can't say enough good things about John and his work. Robert MacKenzie -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kurt Oblinger Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 12:18 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] So Cal Machine Shop Recommendation Looking for recommendations for machine work for a GT6 engine. Just typical rebuild work; clean the block, check the crank bore and align bore if needed, turn the crank, balance, etc, etc. Prefer the So. Bay, Redondo, Torrance area or possibly Long Beach. TIA, Kurt Oblinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 30 06:42:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE314040B for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:42:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com [173.254.64.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EB82D403EE for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:42:35 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 31592 invoked by uid 0); 29 Dec 2012 21:40:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy11.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2012 21:40:19 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=63650 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tp48g-0002Xv-Lu for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:40:18 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:40:15 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] TR-4 to TR6 front suspension swap webpage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I finally put together the web page outlining what's necessary to swap the TR-3/4 front suspension for the later TR-6 setup. The page is here: http://www.tonydrews.com/Front_Suspension/tr4_front_suspension_upgrade.htm Cheers, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 30 20:11:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF65427E7 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:11:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEC5427A9 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:11:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2012 01:19:55 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.97] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2012 01:19:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2012 01:19:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 70816 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Dec 2012 01:19:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356916795; bh=GAmPk3QQ3L1fCu09OCEk0Q7yAh6YvH4y845d6Wni9I8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2nvdkLa8pzNks/Hxrr/zN70w2/Jdows4xdspNkogS/NPthODIYwBhigq2EiyuLzpT6VTlXB8xgGWLYA5o+4NQgQ+ootk4WjDKXFncJ5zHRB/eHnxyro3mfI05d/7/LGi2s82g4TPDv2qYzeJRf8dAxlVAd3/97QgQ4UCDQTL/oM= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZrkafHSPVKHMldwfiXr8MjWGyJbvaoPQ32X4LgXkhr8qF76kVJrfbe9FqWB9tgh7t9hK5ROo0V0bJDHdlvbl13Bypo6vz5dxWrG2qtmk9I9oJUY392gWq87NbtGX60+CUGx26Nk3ETvHQxfqfiZfQJlNy6SYc5im3vdPvh16gbM=; gLPdd3HSEVUtTq36u6dbgrc4YB0V67aShYeN00fKvzVgZ6hlCyHRYL4mNRN0 2fBAtL21BQVb.yeDiLYoY.WGMRXtPTMeuwIKmEMSuH094CXGIZiNfDWnFOFE rBNHjbLR6_gZ_ZqIJwVXFlMe1nIv2n7HMNq9NmUICkOCt_aaIIotKq5iNRPz e7uEst75voDarOSustmB62tmorVqqn_sD1ottnqF0YQbs3j3qlR5WAnrfcOg VOJ2QozAN.SL4Aj3PCbubKlK0IwUxpudlictbQB.onEsh55zgF43KQ_7g53w Xg23WeEOeIbxvKHu.D4uyMoZPmbbA0Lxgbbeeui.pBhr3Qr.Lp2WI4JPkqhi A_7wnn84IBIrjQocguSB0oWYAkFUaqs6k_XWUAeWFzw9Ru5_aW6YrD601OZa 3lj2hYx1N4C1zWMDke9pb4IIZ1JNHkHhAXbo37sZN.1rowWKJPz6G4QlTrab keE0Z3nRLjrvEkUiJD.HzgLRSL.jmxBtUzySkutf4log- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:19:55 PST SSBwb3N0ZWQgdGhpcyB0aGUgb3RoZXIgZGF5LCBidXQgZm9yIHNvbWUgcmVhc29uIGl0IGRpZG4ndCBnZXQgcG9zdGVkIHRvIHRoZSBsaXN0LiBMZXRzIHRyeSBhZ2Fpbi4NCi1FZC0NCg0KLS0tIE9uIEZyaSwgMTIvMjgvMTIsIEVEV0FSRCBCQVJOQVJEIDxlZHdhcmRiYXJuYXJkQHByb2RpZ3kubmV0PiB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQpGcm9tOiBFRFdBUkQgQkFSTkFSRCA8ZWR3YXJkYmFybmFyZEBwcm9kaWd5Lm5ldD4NClN1YmplY3Q6IEluZHkgZHJpdmVyIHBhc3NlcyBhd2F5DQpUbzogIkZPVCIgPGZvdEBhdXRveC4BMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:19:55 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Fw: Indy driver passes away Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I posted this the other day, but for some reason it didn't get posted to the list. Lets try again. -Ed- --- On Fri, 12/28/12, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: From: EDWARD BARNARD Subject: Indy driver passes away To: "FOT" Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 11:26 PM For those who follow such happenings, Salt Walther passed away today. He is best known for the terrible crash he was involved in at the start of the '73 500. Kas remembers that very well having seen it from the pit wall while running for his life. Walther never made much of a name for himself beyond the crash, which was one of his three last place finishes out of six starts. -Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 30 21:35:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A530427C0 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:35:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D8C40520 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:35:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id i4KM1k0060EPchoA74ZABX; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:33:10 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id i4Z61k0033UuT0T8M4Z9u8; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:33:10 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'FOT'" Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:22:25 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3nDm/aSpX5HylrQfexfZbeFrcrKQ== s=q20121106; t=1356928390; bh=pS/JIrNccvHvkSGiEDNccs7IWe5/7jH/ao27rx4qdV4=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XtT+lxWLEr6NREN6pycAUkWEAPQUuKfT0dtLjdRoa9BFQmxbptCjAEui/R9oEayWR dOJAsFbJLK0gpYbaO8DOScYfGsJmopz9r+467csABJdi2uVWK4ftjdKHlWGfut6bJo of93VjqtmKQbrdf5GeHTXNMcI72EiSsF8Gzt2D69hMRzYN+w0A6vGDh1tIAHHGn1ux vRWnak10DE6lrwdgScIlZADAvjWzXZ1pTNc9mWNxr4rcl3EGsoohbjy2ecMISgYXjK BkYurj/3hWcDt2f0wzGNRV4mrV0rZvhS8oqyU1MvsbqMAK8J0WfjapIjhgRsL+KneK AH+tiH1XZE5dA== Subject: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone happen to know where to get the aluminum plugs in the top of the head ? Thanks as always jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 01:45:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7585B42822 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:45:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A6E0427EA for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:43:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 31050 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 2012 19:06:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2012 19:06:48 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=54324 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TpODg-0006FP-Lw for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:06:48 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:06:45 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <20121230134242.022C54040B@autox.team.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 to TR6 front suspension swap webpage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net By the way, if you find part of the narrative on the page confusing or have additional feedback, I'm certainly open to constructive criticism. I'd like the page to be a reference source for this swap, and any additional info / better descriptions of what I've done can only help. Cheers, Tony At 03:40 PM 12/29/2012, Tony Drews wrote: >I finally put together the web page outlining what's necessary to >swap the TR-3/4 front suspension for the later TR-6 setup. > >The page is here: >http://www.tonydrews.com/Front_Suspension/tr4_front_suspension_upgrade.htm > >Cheers, >Tony Drews >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 09:01:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C33142826 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:01:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s24.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s24.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BB5403F9 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:01:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W15 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s24.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 31 Dec 2012 07:58:53 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: Edward Barnard , fot Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:58:53 +0000 References: <1356916795.70349.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> FILETIME=[BB9DCEC0:01CDE76F] Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Indy driver passes away Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am in the scene of the Walther crash at Indy. I was right at the pit wall waiting for David Hobbs in our Gurney Eagle to come by. Later a photographer sent me five photos taken in about three seconds showing the full scene of this terrible event. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:19:55 -0800 > From: edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Fw: Indy driver passes away > > I posted this the other day, but for some reason it didn't get posted to the > list. Lets try again. > -Ed- > > --- On Fri, 12/28/12, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > > > From: EDWARD BARNARD > Subject: Indy driver passes away > To: "FOT" > Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 11:26 PM > > > > > > > > For those who follow such happenings, Salt Walther passed away today. He is > best known for the terrible crash he was involved in at the start of the '73 > 500. Kas remembers that very well having seen it from the pit wall while > running for his life. Walther never made much of a name for himself beyond the > crash, which was one of his three last place finishes out of six starts. > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 09:19:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A9242841 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:19:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8189E42805 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:19:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MFW00I53L83TS30@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:16:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Jim Gray" , "'FOT'" References: <20121231043545.3E036425AE@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:16:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, Happy New Year. I'm not sure about the TR4 head, but on my 6 where the heater hose pipe comes out the top of the head near the rear, I tapped it to 3/8 pipe and installed a reducer bushing and a petcock for bleeding out air from the system. If you just want a plug, various places sell Allen head pipe plugs in aluminum. Try Jegs or Pegasus. British pipe threads are vary close to NPT sizes and can be tapped to NPT sizes easily. I have a bunch of taps cluttering up my garage! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gray" To: "'FOT'" Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:22 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs > Does anyone happen to know where to get the aluminum plugs in the top of > the > head ? > > Thanks as always > > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 09:32:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583D8428A7 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:32:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3C942886 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:32:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iDxz1k00C1Y3wxoA1GVxvQ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:29:57 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iGTx1k00K2xZMJ48bGTxA8; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:27:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:27:57 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Bill Tobin (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1356971397; bh=+Ol0BAZqSDh6yWGJpQh60i5ycC7yK8bUVoHAdAjR1DI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=KW4qd1tRkT3rF6yiaaDTj9uuGeqV0gAGJmla3otJR1T4RF5On065I4rAhMk5fRq2u HhYM1pGgxnDuo1VySrc08R1HZm46l2i0U1G2ZZnD24Ck9v0yDy1NnCNXrFp1Nax3zA R0QZ6zknkD3oxxwEL/SS/tiWrFoh8m6aWOF6LUrJu2rmw0bustkFLeXFL90Awzb1Tu ehHmqayqLLuEN032RJODwGQUfse7PT7s6UD6FhusMm81BPxbTnErndMw5/3tZa+4eO t20N2BO/w8mTHtF6Qifl1Ivqb9BSPYq4b5Zqel25bm+SB3ZGXrBx/GA/kXyy9V5Fyy y96ck7dQaxDeg== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think I'll go with the flow so to speak and do the pipe plugs. Thanks for all the input. jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Jim Gray" , "FOT" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:16:54 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs Hi all, Happy New Year. I'm not sure about the TR4 head, but on my 6 where the heater hose pipe comes out the top of the head near the rear, I tapped it to 3/8 pipe and installed a reducer bushing and a petcock for bleeding out air from the system. If you just want a plug, various places sell Allen head pipe plugs in aluminum. Try Jegs or Pegasus. British pipe threads are vary close to NPT sizes and can be tapped to NPT sizes easily. I have a bunch of taps cluttering up my garage! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gray" To: "'FOT'" Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:22 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs > Does anyone happen to know where to get the aluminum plugs in the top of > the > head ? > > Thanks as always > > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 09:37:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFA8403F8 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:37:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fbr04.mfg.siteprotect.com (fbr04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B1403E8 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:37:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04-mf.mfg.chicago.hostway [192.168.33.79]) by fbr04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD19B22C3D9 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:34:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.79.167]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB4C55D8081; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:34:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: , "Bill Tobin" References: <548792232.1463252.1356971277373.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:34:49 -0800 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It seems to me that the heater tapping at the back of the head should be used for added water circulation. At least that's what I do on my TR6 and I see most of the TR4's and TR3's also use it for that. Just saying! Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Bill Tobin" Cc: "FOT" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs >I think I'll go with the flow so to speak and do the pipe plugs. Thanks for >all the input. > > jim g > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bill Tobin" > To: "Jim Gray" , "FOT" > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:16:54 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs > > Hi all, Happy New Year. > I'm not sure about the TR4 head, but on my 6 where the heater hose pipe > comes out the top of the head near the rear, I tapped it to 3/8 pipe and > installed a reducer bushing and a petcock for bleeding out air from the > system. If you just want a plug, various places sell Allen head pipe plugs > in aluminum. Try Jegs or Pegasus. > British pipe threads are vary close to NPT sizes and can be tapped to NPT > sizes easily. I have a bunch of taps cluttering up my garage! > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Gray" > To: "'FOT'" > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:22 PM > Subject: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs > > >> Does anyone happen to know where to get the aluminum plugs in the top of >> the >> head ? >> >> Thanks as always >> >> jim g >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 11:44:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDC342848 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:44:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0121342823 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:44:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id ei8so151708wgb.20 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:42:14 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=4LEEIDWfUyIVXC8UwqK//+ph/MsERTp8dC6JGazGEA0=; b=LGr7SEZTV8Y7jNWFLZ7NnzWFoSt96PD5CEXl+vE3xRIEM0bFyCcStQFheyZ06Yuz// vUpWDumuC/RTw4PySFOBJZGYd9+uqH0NnPw3XWOGF3XkUyjWWCzgx01TtkkspF1EWsGM KEWJXoKM1Vm2IaYPk7TNRTBU/QAlvZ5+UD2hKE1RmOBOUR0zL+CE+Es1OcuPJRSAn92c qAhKLSKEgGw5w3YW1hNMN3LpyB5RBX2n+66Q3XcxGbES4aX9YNvm6mvSF/7vLQajygpD YQN5d9vkt8DNXdlax4lokPzP1GsvwZSbiqavLPKJhPMAgdT+0GgBt3ym1Ui8Jt65rcUZ cgXg== uv6mr65408878wjc.34.1356979334212; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([46.78.18.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id df2sm67530932wib.0.2012.12.31.10.42.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:42:13 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'fot'" References: <1356916795.70349.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:41:52 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3nb8ln1WFMUxmuS0SqiJ/SmQcb0wAFp+Hg Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] All the best for the new Year! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Seems I'm the first :-) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 11:54:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C5F42870 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:54:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C6840396 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:54:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iJNg1k0011smiN4AAJrmGb; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:51:46 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iJrl1k0022vctGa8gJrlYB; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:51:45 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "MadMarx" , "'fot'" References: <1356916795.70349.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <001b01cde786$8b594610$a20bd230$@com> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:51:43 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1356979906; bh=KQYr9sZE8JhiEd2gAu5xfBkaAKMMKyZmzuRxwWUUZ5A=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rluWN9GS92vFqvQ31AXGhUAKcsseH4XEXxEgdl5GGzFNHI7LrngeaefLQPERZ5uNt 9Q6Be1Gsw/q++MKxsgsFNnZn4EI/NUYNIKGo33+OdGj/jI5mUC1DMBQfQtiJb0HxMH l0gaQ2x4YQA9/Bg/zqCrVL8vfvdAvZ/6c8+xVU+TSakwELSJHDcLgT/TYAZG7GAfvl mvdsvGCq+0ApOq4J99/Ky5Jtn1JFetq7AypBLTHarVUSYgE7cwScAGUFoPF3hCilzF XjXD1hjx/7LivALHa1SY21ouoOzJZd/gMR9zwSkeAOLFx97Qg/LWrqhLYyuszXB/QL vahjxBkPHGWVQ== Subject: Re: [Fot] All the best for the new Year! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Chris et al...HAPPY NEW YEAR!.. Racer Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: "'fot'" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:41 AM Subject: [Fot] All the best for the new Year! > Seems I'm the first :-) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 12:02:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C41A428C9 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:02:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F75E4003E for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:00:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.224.41.109] (26.sub-174-252-179.myvzw.com [174.252.179.26]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qBVIw5ia012668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:58:09 -0500 References: <1356916795.70349.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <001b01cde786$8b594610$a20bd230$@com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:58:05 -0500 To: MadMarx a=Q4NCO5MvhXoA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CIF8uPGltxEK8dL7nu/SIA==:17 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=5c5j7iTvmGy6ga5AE1gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=CIF8uPGltxEK8dL7nu/SIA==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] All the best for the new Year! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You only have about 4 hrs. Of 12 left. Here on the east coast of USA we've got 10 & the poor guys on the west got to wait 13 before they can pop the cork on a bottle of bubblely! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2012, at 1:41 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Seems I'm the first :-) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 12:12:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EB5428D7 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:12:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E9442897 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:12:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iJw41k0011u4NiLAAK9pt6; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:09:49 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iK9o1k00F2vctGa8hK9oKh; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:09:49 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "John Hasty" , "MadMarx" References: <1356916795.70349.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><001b01cde786$8b594610$a20bd230$@com> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:09:47 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1356980989; bh=CMdwhXs1vJ6828Iq/CEc8vkIWCpIbL24M97wOcKBebw=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QTFxzvPxEn/A5oQ4pev+zYaIx6xKagAVIgGjTbcT+DpImmYu/DVBtiCehaBNpJqob D1lMqVBQAvDklFl1+KyNVBsGqmQFSwDL34PyldEg5sgZwsKHqpI3ovTgteb+iBqXww CKw3poh6+NAEzaKAECnmeAhTNmOOszNYcVnnAvMgKAzHJwgCH1POpCEHJFH2YPEtfT AGKjSIzZ2BWWgZr1xWAP1VeED03KVyBE/AdCFeQaOrVs3J/QNlJ/lYUbGTbbr9fskO CbfpE5U4l7FlIKQufQBJhhkawRKu3ZYzi4YVShmwnSz4XF1jUGEn4wOBbeSqxb+PMd /bbKJGPJXjmBw== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] All the best for the new Year! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The 2013 season is almost here,,,Sparks me up Wonderfuly! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hasty" To: "MadMarx" Cc: "fot" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] All the best for the new Year! > You only have about 4 hrs. Of 12 left. Here on the east coast of USA we've > got > 10 & the poor guys on the west got to wait 13 before they can pop the cork > on > a bottle of bubblely! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 31, 2012, at 1:41 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > >> Seems I'm the first :-) >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 13:56:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512C0427F5 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:56:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EF940549 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:56:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hj13so7222510wib.7 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:53:38 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=qRSsVhHqZP8/XZ4MFOdnild7Ma3hFvMbnqaGPDvJDxQ=; b=gKUMSYoYB55/4z8cvE8idIJhBVUlTLT9DtSiVOlg2YUsNElqKRZGOBSyVQfbBL5eyZ KQMPR4ux5+fILlkod38e7dcetnH9Z4/tlrteNaRPoaJfRNl6BS55WbcWSQynMzGSnUJX Bt0EHS0H+06NIkNh3wLy/1EDUvHNs1/goYOKRi+Wt8BfcXPyWCUPVJ//tnUGrcJCy+kP xS8N5mKuks1eRuFA0FKjtN/15f1P4pI8Z4d4dkf1AD+A6hweuOy/6khp+tiWHgjzbcJi Ei3gtXiv52z/VjQNyo4O2Dd6gs2B/aIZccWuHR8kVmdqBbpiiT+A9xwYMc4kjnmBwKP8 gIqw== w6mr63042528wiz.19.1356987218532; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([46.78.18.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ew4sm71718456wid.11.2012.12.31.12.53.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:53:37 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'fot'" References: <1356916795.70349.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <001b01cde786$8b594610$a20bd230$@com> <7290E6ED9DDD4522B9E3B5B86144E4E1@Bud> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:53:36 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3nh+J80EQ9umqZQbe73MFb1Pj9lwAEOqzQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] All the best for the new Year! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've made a noisy song to welcome 2013....have fun with it....6H of work. https://soundcloud.com/darkstar679/first-01-mp3 Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: RACER BUD [mailto:budscars@comcast.net] Gesendet: Montag, 31. Dezember 2012 19:52 An: MadMarx; 'fot' Betreff: Re: [Fot] All the best for the new Year! Thanks Chris et al...HAPPY NEW YEAR!.. Racer Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: "'fot'" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:41 AM Subject: [Fot] All the best for the new Year! > Seems I'm the first :-) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 31 14:03:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4629C4280D for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:03:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BF440549 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:01:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F14501C000068 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dnb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.214.13]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C579BE000088 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:59:32 -0500 (EST) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:59:32 -0500 (EST) To: FOT@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1356987572; bh=AcwJGSrEwJyHQ9y5HHoIFUpN6qX1U7V9U/fl7V5Nn1M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G7xhNdECDQsyyZgfzwLCj1IoDM8blSbK49Fa57/ug1EBj6uFbrXVIxs0WKFjKqkTJ ZdjMJpH/0W5ky3GIathDKyf23/4fVOVlp381+82A641nJPkAr3PvwSZotk5xG6TFS7 1xuYWKCMGsZfBUEAvZOB7u4IjRO2aqp/+/BVoFzU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c850e1fcb4148c Subject: [Fot] Best wishes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amigos, I wish all my friends the best for the new year. We've been fragmented and blown about lately but I still think of you all and hope for the best! Let's Go 2013!!!! Steve and Pat _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net