Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Transmission Tailpiece replacement process

From: James Trudeau via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:26:40 -0400

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Thanks Glenn,&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I wa=
s able to do just as you suggested- and it looks like the tunnel had been no=
tched about an inch to facilitate. I did have to jack the motor up and down t=
o make room as I moved the housing into position, but I did it!</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Humorous photo of how cracked the tailpiece was! I Aldo found t=
hat the lower right bolt head was sheared off - maybe from over tightening i=
n the one shallow blind threaded hole. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><img s=
rc=3D"cid:CECDA83B-C8EF-43CE-B36B-DA0915F0459F" alt=3D"IMG_4833"></div><div>=
<br></div><div>All done, hopefully no more cracks=E2=80=A6</div><div><img sr=
c=3D"cid:3BF3E7B7-87C4-4F9C-B695-09A016C35813" alt=3D"IMG_4836"></div><div><=
span style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);"><br></span></d=
iv><div><span style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">Jim</=
span></div><div><span style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)=
;"><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"></span><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 13,=
 2024, at 5:15=E2=80=AFPM, fubog1 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blo=
ckquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Yeah it can be done, maybe wi=
th some difficulty drawing it away from the box, but when I've done it, it w=
as on a car that has a section of the tunnel over the driveshaft notched for=
 clearance so it comes out of the top.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false">Better also check the driveshaft for out of balance, that's what kill=
s them...</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Glen Efinger<br></div><div><br></div>
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                        On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 09:19:54 AM EDT, Jame=
s Trudeau via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m finally getting ready to c=
hange my cracked tailpiece on my 63 spitfire race car.&nbsp; My intention is=
 to do this while engine and transmission are still in the car. Any reason t=
o believe this can=E2=80=99t be done?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99ll unbolt the drive shaft front coupler, and angle i=
t down (as much as race exhaust in tunnel allows!). <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Loosen flange nut on output shaft. <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Put support under motor and trans=
mission, then unbolt rubber transmission mounts and maybe steel support cros=
smember. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Then fully re=
move flange nut from output shaft, and unbolt tailpiece from transmission. <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">My concern is whether I=
=E2=80=99ll be able to slide the tailpiece back far enough into body transmi=
ssion tunnel to clear the output shaft. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">I could make more room by removing the exhaust pipe and or=
 tilting rear of motor down, but not sure what other clearance issues might a=
rise. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Trying to avoid o=
verreaching my mechanical abilities!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br=
><br>Jim<br><br><br>Sent from my iPhone_____________________________________=
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From: fubog1 via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 23:09:16 +0000 (UTC)

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 Yes that's all it takes to be able to maneuver it around.Pretty impressive=
 failure, especially w/a reinforced housing, but not that unusual; we broke=
 11 in one season in a National F-prod car I used to crew on, chasing d/s b=
alance issues, I still have one in my track spares box!Glad it wet well, ho=
pefully it doesn't become a habit...
Glen.

    On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 06:27:15 PM EDT, James Trudeau <jgtrudea=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 Thanks Glenn,=C2=A0
I was able to do just as you suggested- and it looks like the tunnel had be=
en notched about an inch to facilitate. I did have to jack the motor up and=
 down to make room as I moved the housing into position, but I did it!
Humorous photo of how cracked the tailpiece was! I Aldo found that the lowe=
r right bolt head was sheared off - maybe from over tightening in the one s=
hallow blind threaded hole. =C2=A0

All done, hopefully no more cracks=E2=80=A6
Jim
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2024, at 5:15=E2=80=AFPM, fubog1 <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF Yeah it can be done, maybe with some difficulty drawing it away f=
rom the box, but when I've done it, it was on a car that has a section of t=
he tunnel over the driveshaft notched for clearance so it comes out of the =
top.Better also check the driveshaft for out of balance, that's what kills =
them...
Glen Efinger

    On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 09:19:54 AM EDT, James Trudeau via Fot <=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 I=E2=80=99m finally getting ready to change my cracked tailpiece on my 63 =
spitfire race car.=C2=A0 My intention is to do this while engine and transm=
ission are still in the car. Any reason to believe this can=E2=80=99t be do=
ne?

I=E2=80=99ll unbolt the drive shaft front coupler, and angle it down (as mu=
ch as race exhaust in tunnel allows!).=20

Loosen flange nut on output shaft.=20

Put support under motor and transmission, then unbolt rubber transmission m=
ounts and maybe steel support crossmember.=20

Then fully remove flange nut from output shaft, and unbolt tailpiece from t=
ransmission.=20

My concern is whether I=E2=80=99ll be able to slide the tailpiece back far =
enough into body transmission tunnel to clear the output shaft.=20

I could make more room by removing the exhaust pipe and or tilting rear of =
motor down, but not sure what other clearance issues might arise.=20

Trying to avoid overreaching my mechanical abilities!

Jim

Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
[email-masked]

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp1975d50dyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Yes that's all it takes to b=
e able to maneuver it around.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">P=
retty impressive failure, especially w/a reinforced housing, but not that u=
nusual; we broke 11 in one season in a National F-prod car I used to crew o=
n, chasing d/s balance issues, I still have one in my track spares box!</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Glad it wet well, hopefully it doe=
sn't become a habit...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Glen=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                        On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 06:27:15 PM EDT, Jam=
es Trudeau &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                    <div><br></div>
                    <div><br></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798176522"><div>Thanks Glenn=
,&nbsp;<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I was able to do just as you sugg=
ested- and it looks like the tunnel had been notched about an inch to facil=
itate. I did have to jack the motor up and down to make room as I moved the=
 housing into position, but I did it!</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv>Humorous photo of how cracked the tailpiece was! I Aldo found that the l=
ower right bolt head was sheared off - maybe from over tightening in the on=
e shallow blind threaded hole. &nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv><img src=3D"cid:XonCLexi0ub5ORxrwM51" alt=3D"IMG_4833" data-inlineimagem=
anipulating=3D"true" style=3D"width: 100%; max-width: 640px;"></div><div><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div>All done, hopefully no more cracks=E2=80=A6</di=
v><div><img src=3D"cid:VWA65GEvLamQhnV5aXRq" alt=3D"IMG_4836" data-inlineim=
agemanipulating=3D"true" style=3D"width: 100%; max-width: 640px;"></div><di=
v><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div><span>Jim</span></div><div><sp=
an><br id=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798176522lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature" clear=
=3D"none"></span><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div id=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798176522yqtfd26994" class=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798=
176522yqt6871675359"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 13=
, 2024, at 5:15=E2=80=AFPM, fubog1 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798176522yqtfd48066" class=
=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798176522yqt6871675359">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv879=
8176522ydpc9404b62yahoo-style-wrap"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Yeah it can be done, maybe with some difficulty dr=
awing it away from the box, but when I've done it, it was on a car that has=
 a section of the tunnel over the driveshaft notched for clearance so it co=
mes out of the top.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Better also check the driveshaft =
for out of balance, that's what kills them...</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Glen Efinger<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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        </div></div><div id=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798176522ydpca37d009yahoo_quo=
ted_3820871432" class=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798176522ydpca37d009yahoo_quoted"><=
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                        On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 09:19:54 AM EDT, Jam=
es Trudeau via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                </div><div><div id=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798176522yqtfd65854" c=
lass=3D"ydp9db01b43yiv8798176522yqt6871675359"><div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m=
 finally getting ready to change my cracked tailpiece on my 63 spitfire rac=
e car.&nbsp; My intention is to do this while engine and transmission are s=
till in the car. Any reason to believe this can=E2=80=99t be done?<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
I=E2=80=99ll unbolt the drive shaft front coupler, and angle it down (as mu=
ch as race exhaust in tunnel allows!). <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Loosen flange nut on output=
 shaft. <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Put support under motor and transmission, then unbolt rubb=
er transmission mounts and maybe steel support crossmember. <br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Then f=
ully remove flange nut from output shaft, and unbolt tailpiece from transmi=
ssion. <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">My concern is whether I=E2=80=99ll be able to slide the tai=
lpiece back far enough into body transmission tunnel to clear the output sh=
aft. <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">I could make more room by removing the exhaust pipe and or ti=
lting rear of motor down, but not sure what other clearance issues might ar=
ise. <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Trying to avoid overreaching my mechanical abilities!<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none">Jim<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
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