Subject: [Fot] Shop building thoughts

From: "Barr, Scott via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 22:17:35 +0000

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If you were going to put up a new shop building, and wanted to have a 4-pos=
t lift (or two) for your race cars and other projects, what sort of interio=
r height/wall height would you go for?  With our collection of Triumphs and=
 Spec Racer Fords, I feel like I could get away with 10 feet.  Is 12 feet n=
ecessary?

Looking to minimize possible spousal objections concerning the perceived eg=
regiousness of eyesore...

Scott (B.)

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you were going to put up a new shop building, and=
 wanted to have a 4-post lift (or two) for your race cars and other project=
s, what sort of interior height/wall height would you go for?&nbsp; With ou=
r collection of Triumphs and Spec Racer
 Fords, I feel like I could get away with 10 feet.&nbsp; Is 12 feet necessa=
ry?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Looking to minimize possible spousal objections conc=
erning the perceived egregiousness of eyesore&#8230;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Scott (B.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 18:39:26 -0800

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"auto">Funny thing, my wife and I are house hunting right now. We are findin=
g newer homes with an attached =E2=80=9CRV garage=E2=80=9D; 50 feet long, 25=
-20 feet wide.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>They are open to the home=E2=80=99s 2=
 car garage, insulated and walls are finished.<div><br></div><div>We=E2=80=99=
ve found one with a 4 post lift already installed. This house is #1 on our l=
ist.</div><div><br></div><div>Winning!</div><div><br></div><div><br id=3D"li=
neBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my i=
Phone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 23, 2=
026, at 3:13=E2=80=AFPM, JS Performance Motoring, LLC via Fot &lt;fot@autox.=
team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Scott,</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Go at le=
ast 12ft.&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">My=
 dad's shop is 11ft.&nbsp; I left some marks on his ceiling with my GT6 bonn=
et when using his 4 post years ago.&nbsp; &nbsp;I'm not sure if he knows abo=
ut it,&nbsp; so shhhhh.&nbsp; :-D</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If you are bu=
ilding from scratch, pour plenty of concrete to have the option to install a=
 2 post lift.&nbsp; I much prefer working under a 2 post.</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div data-smartmail=3D"gma=
il_signature" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jason Sukey</div><div><spa=
n></span><span></span>JS Performance Motoring, LLC<br></div><div>440.984.772=
0</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
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" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 23, 2026, 5=
:23=E2=80=AFPM Barr, Scott via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you were going to put up a new shop building, and w=
anted to have a 4-post lift (or two) for your race cars and other projects, w=
hat sort of interior height/wall height would you go for?&nbsp; With our col=
lection of Triumphs and Spec Racer
 Fords, I feel like I could get away with 10 feet.&nbsp; Is 12 feet necessar=
y?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Looking to minimize possible spousal objections conce=
rning the perceived egregiousness of eyesore=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Scott (B.)<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: Philip Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 13:27:07 -0500

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v=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D=
"auto">Glad you find them useful, Scott.<div>I have gotten to the point that=
 I put my totes that carry stuff to the track on wheels (Harbor Freight furn=
iture dollys.) Easy to move them out of the way yet I can access parts when I=
 do normal maintenance. And it is so nice to wheel a 70 pound tote up to the=
 back of the truck when loading for a race.</div><div>Enjoy!</div><div>Phil<=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSign=
ature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On Jan 26, 2026, at 12:17=E2=80=AFPM, Barr, Scott &lt;sb=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Great reference to the GRM insights!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> [email-masked] &lt;vfracing@aol=
.com&gt;
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 23, 2026 6:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> of Triumph Friends &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Barr, Scott &lt;sb=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Shop building thoughts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-ser=
if">About 10 years ago I put an extension onto my barn designed by Dan Fergu=
son (whom some of you may know as a vintage MGA racer). &nbsp;We did it 25 f=
eet wide and 44 feet long, 12-1/2 foot ceiling.
 &nbsp;Dimensions were dictated by proportions to the existing structure.) H=
indsight says it should have been about 4 feet wider to give me an extra foo=
t or two on each side of the car. &nbsp;It has two four post lifts for stora=
ge and a 2-post for service. &nbsp;As someone
 pointed out earlier, even at 12-1/2 feet I need to make sure I close the ho=
ods of some cars before lifting the cars to max height. &nbsp;I find the fou=
r posters are better for service on my Jag and TR due to the low ground clea=
rance of the cars coupled with an
 ancient two post lift (likely older than my 4A), unless of course I am doin=
g suspension or brake work. &nbsp;Footings under the two poster uprights are=
 10" thick. &nbsp;The entire floor area is at least 4" thick with a wire mes=
h reinforcement, 4000 pound concrete.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-ser=
if">Two very valuable tips from Grassroots Motorsports: 1) put all storage s=
omewhere other than your garage area and workshop. &nbsp;Storage has a way o=
f taking over space. 2) put as much as possible
 on wheels so it can be readily moved. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-ser=
if">Happy Planning!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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if"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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if">Phil &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">On Friday, January 23, 2026 at 05:26:=
03 PM EST, Barr, Scott via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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<p class=3D"yiv4726576953msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">If you were going to put=
 up a new shop building, and wanted to have a 4-post lift (or two) for your r=
ace cars and other projects, what sort of
 interior height/wall height would you go for?&nbsp; With our collection of T=
riumphs and Spec Racer Fords, I feel like I could get away with 10 feet.&nbs=
p; Is 12 feet necessary?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4726576953msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"yiv4726576953msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">Looking to minimize poss=
ible spousal objections concerning the perceived egregiousness of eyesore=E2=
=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4726576953msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
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ily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">Scott (B.)<o:p></o:p></s=
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From: Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 15:39:02 -0500

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I like the dollies for totes idea! Almost everything=
 in my garage is on wheels or is pallet jack liftable so I can re-arrange if=
 need be (or clean out behind). It makes life much easier when something big=
 comes in. But I=E2=80=99ve never done this for the track stuff. Makes great=
 sense. I do have inventory sheets (or at least a pouch to _put_ them in) on=
 the totes. That helps a lot.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Lots of E track in the trailer helps tie things down too.&nbsp;</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 26, 2026, at 13:37, Philip Gott via Fot &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D=
"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Glad you find them useful, Scott.<div>I have go=
tten to the point that I put my totes that carry stuff to the track on wheel=
s (Harbor Freight furniture dollys.) Easy to move them out of the way yet I c=
an access parts when I do normal maintenance. And it is so nice to wheel a 7=
0 pound tote up to the back of the truck when loading for a race.</div><div>=
Enjoy!</div><div>Phil</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br id=3D"line=
BreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 26, 2026, at 12:17=E2=80=AFP=
M, Barr, Scott &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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