From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 05:11:31 2009 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:18:38 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Wiring loom query I have a MkII BT7 3000..... The grille is out of the car and the front end is generally "get-at-able". The wiring loom's progress around this area of the car has always been a bit of a mystery to me and, it seems, to previous owners, mechanics, paint sprayers etc....plastic cable ties everywhere...all worked but was a bit of a mess. So, where is it all actually meant to go? To what is the loom clipped and with what? And, can one clip(?) it all in before re-installing the grille then the radiator? What's the order of play here? Thanks, Simon. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 06:10:53 2009 From: "John Sims" To: Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:36:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Web Site Updates The articles from I Erbs are now on my site under the Fuel System (Fuel Pump repairs) and Ignition System (Distributor Fault Finding) sections of the Technical Page. There are about a dozen other updates on that page, locally obtainable parts and Important Links pages that I have placed in the past 10 days or so. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 07:12:25 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: John Harper Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:23:07 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lubrication John - I have the manifolds from two A90s and my 100, the bell crank pivot is likely carbon steel / bolt steel of some sort. All of the ones I've had are corroded and needed replacement. Usually the corrosion is around the bolt head and threads, not the pivot. All the pivots themselves were very clean without corrosion, I suspect that the bell crank uses a brass bush of some sort and the brass probably works its way into the pivot's surface over time, hence the lack of corrosion. The replacement pivots you can buy are black coated like a typical British made bolt, so standard grade 5 bolt steel is probably what it is. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:02 PM, John Harper wrote: > > Alan > > If they are not stainless steel then the metal must be something very > similar. I have just checked four spare manifolds; a couple from Atlantics > but you will know that they are the same. All are originals and must be > around 55 years old. None show any significant corrosion and are still > bright and shiny if lightly polished. > > If they are not stainless steel then what is the metal likely to be? > > If vendors are selling pivots made of mild steel then they are in my view > selling an inferior product. > > Regards _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 08:40:56 2009 From: dwflagg To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:57:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) Just an observation, but it seemed like there were far less trick or treaters out last night. Maybe because it was Saturday, or the time change? I know here they only allow kids out from dusk to 8:00 PM and no teenagers. Times have changed. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Free Sunroom Estimates Find top-rated sunroom pros and get multiple free estimates today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=ygLdqBOJhSIcTwAR4NZjRwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAEvlyT4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIYNQAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 09:42:32 2009 From: "Ron Ray" To: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:48:44 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] More on relays for electrical systems As a follow up on my question of last week regarding relays for the lighting system on a Bugeye, below is a link from my friend who originally asked the question. The article explains more about relays. http://www.rowand.net/shop/tech/AllAboutRelays.htm Ron _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 09:43:03 2009 From: Jody Kerr To: dwflagg Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:50:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) We similarly had a lower turnout than normal. Which is odd. I would have thought with a tighter ecomony we would have seen much more out and about. I also noted, though, that in my neighborhood there were a lot more dark houses than normal (almost every other one). My daughter and I ended up coving twice the distance of normal in order to get an adequate number of houses in. (She doesn't care so much about the candy as she does care about people seeing her in her costume). So I wonder if people weren't out because the pickings were slim Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 09:43:15 2009 From: dwflagg To: jodyfkerr@gmail.com Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:57:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) Jody, Without trying to carry this non-Healey thread too long, I also noticed that we were the only house in our court with the lights on (and a lighted pumpkin on the porch). Can you send a picture of the Studebaker, off list. Thanks. Doug > We similarly had a lower turnout than normal. Which is odd. I would > have thought with a tighter economy we would have seen much more > out > and about. I also noted, though, that in my neighborhood there were > a > lot more dark houses than normal (almost every other one). My > daughter > and I ended up coving twice the distance of normal in order to get > an > adequate number of houses in. (She doesn't care so much about the > candy as she does care about people seeing her in her costume). So > I > wonder if people weren't out because the pickings were slim > > Jody > > > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > 1953 Studebaker Champion > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts > on ebay! > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their > apparent > disinclination to do so." > --Douglas Adams > ____________________________________________________________ Top Bathroom Remodelers Get up to 4 free bathroom remodel estimates today. No obligation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=40SaQs3P4Yhm5ltTb97djwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAOKlND8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIYGAAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 09:43:26 2009 From: "John Sims" To: "'dwflagg'" , Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:09:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) Well we had rain and I live up a hill that is unlit so the little ones tend to pass my house. Had only 14 kids all night and that stopped around 6pm. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dwflagg Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:57 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) Just an observation, but it seemed like there were far less trick or treaters out last night. Maybe because it was Saturday, or the time change? I know here they only allow kids out from dusk to 8:00 PM and no teenagers. Times have changed. Doug _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 09:43:37 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:10:19 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Halloween (non-Healey) We moved from a neighborhood where we used to get 200 kids, to a neighbourhood where we only get 20 in a good year. ( We didn't move for this reason though! :)) Imagine how much candy we had left over the first year? This year we got zero ... none ... nada. We don't have any rules like that, that I know of, but I think perhaps the swine flu played a role. I had to drive around part of the city during prime time and didn't see one kid out. I was mainly on main streets though, not deep into the neighbourhoods. > To: healeys@autox.team.net > > Just an observation, but it seemed like there were far less trick or > treaters out last night. Maybe because it was Saturday, or the time > change? I know here they only allow kids out from dusk to 8:00 PM and no > teenagers. Times have changed. > > Doug _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 10:42:52 2009 From: "Dick Matson" To: "AustinHealey List" Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:52:48 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Web Site Updates John: Your site is a great service I think. Thank you. Dick Matson / Bj8 Cashmere, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: John Sims To: healeys@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:36 AM Subject: [Healeys] Web Site Updates The articles from I Erbs are now on my site under the Fuel System (Fuel Pump repairs) and Ignition System (Distributor Fault Finding) sections of the Technical Page. There are about a dozen other updates on that page, locally obtainable parts and Important Links pages that I have placed in the past 10 days or so. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 12:51:13 2009 From: Bob Johnson To: Healeys Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:59:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] No Healey Content: 24 Hrs of World Air Traffic This is just interesting, since we are a rather international group. Note the one lone flight from Perth, I think, to the east coast of Africa. Is that JNB? Link at bottom. Bob Johnson BJ8 *Be sure to view on full screen!!** *** WORLD AIR TRAFFIC 0-24 HRS..VIEW FROM SATELLITE THIS IS MOST AMAZING.... ENJOY. You won't believe thisThe yellow dots are airplanes in the sky during a 24 hour period. Stay with the picture. You will see the light of the day moving from the east to the west, as the Earth spins on its axis. Also you will see the aircraft flow of traffic leaving the North American continent and travelling at night to arrive in the UK in the morning. Then you will see the flow changing, leaving the UK in the morning and flying to the American continent in daylight. It is a 24 hour observation of all of the large aircraft flights in the world, condensed down to about 2 minutes. From space we look like a bee hive of activity. You could tell it was summer time in the north by the sun's foot print over the planet. You could see that it didn't quite set in the extreme north and it didn't quite rise in the extreme south. I have never seen this before. We are taught about the earth's tilt and how it causes summer and winter and have had to imagine just what is going on. With this 24 hour observation of aircraft travel on the earth's surface we get to see the daylight pattern move as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1US_4uf4YE ------------------------------ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type video/x-ms-wmv which had a name of WorldAirTraffic0-24h.wmv] _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 13:41:05 2009 From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:12:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card Hello, Healeyphiles - While in Books-A-Million today, I noted that they have a birthday card with a drawing of a blue BJ8 (dual lights) on the front. The text reads: "Brother Each birthday is a wonderful gift - a key that can unlock new doors into the future, a starting point on the roads yet to travel" Inside is the word "Enjoy" The card is about 9 inches high by 3-1/2 to 4 inches wide, is made by American Greetings, and is priced at $1.99. I know there are some of you that collect stuff like this, and there may even be some who would like to use the card for its intended purpose. There are four of them with envelopes in the rack. If there is enough interest, I can buy the stock and mail them out for the cost of the card(s) plus postage. First come, first served. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 13:41:24 2009 From: David Nock To: "Simon Lachlan" Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:20:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wiring loom query the harness goes across just below the hood latch. there are two hole in that panel on each side of the latch that you attach a harness clip on the front side. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Nov 1, 2009, at 3:18 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote: > I have a MkII BT7 3000..... > The grille is out of the car and the front end is generally "get-at- > able". > The wiring loom's progress around this area of the car has always > been a bit > of a mystery to me and, it seems, to previous owners, mechanics, paint > sprayers etc....plastic cable ties everywhere...all worked but was > a bit of > a mess. > So, where is it all actually meant to go? To what is the loom > clipped and > with what? > And, can one clip(?) it all in before re-installing the grille then > the > radiator? What's the order of play here? > Thanks, > Simon. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc@verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 14:44:52 2009 From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:05:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card I hear from Ed that he has them available on his justbrits.com site as well. I hadn't seen them before. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card Hello, Healeyphiles - While in Books-A-Million today, I noted that they have a birthday card with a drawing of a blue BJ8 (dual lights) on the front. The text reads: "Brother Each birthday is a wonderful gift - a key that can unlock new doors into the future, a starting point on the roads yet to travel" Inside is the word "Enjoy" The card is about 9 inches high by 3-1/2 to 4 inches wide, is made by American Greetings, and is priced at $1.99. I know there are some of you that collect stuff like this, and there may even be some who would like to use the card for its intended purpose. There are four of them with envelopes in the rack. If there is enough interest, I can buy the stock and mail them out for the cost of the card(s) plus postage. First come, first served. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 15:19:01 2009 From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:30:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] The Healey Birthday Card is spoken for..... _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 16:15:45 2009 From: "Dave Porter" To: "'David Nock'" , "'Simon Lachlan'" Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:32:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wiring loom query ..and I'm pretty sure there is a clip on the X brace for the stator tube harness..Dave (the other one) frogeye@porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:20 PM To: Simon Lachlan Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wiring loom query the harness goes across just below the hood latch. there are two hole in that panel on each side of the latch that you attach a harness clip on the front side. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Nov 1, 2009, at 3:18 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote: > I have a MkII BT7 3000..... > The grille is out of the car and the front end is generally "get-at- > able". > The wiring loom's progress around this area of the car has always > been a bit > of a mystery to me and, it seems, to previous owners, mechanics, paint > sprayers etc....plastic cable ties everywhere...all worked but was > a bit of > a mess. > So, where is it all actually meant to go? To what is the loom > clipped and > with what? > And, can one clip(?) it all in before re-installing the grille then > the > radiator? What's the order of play here? > Thanks, > Simon. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc@verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye@porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 16:43:47 2009 From: Tom Felts To: BJ8 Healeys , healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:43:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card Yeah, but Ed probably wants an arm and a leg for them:):):):):):):) VBG ---- BJ8 Healeys wrote: ============= I hear from Ed that he has them available on his justbrits.com site as well. I hadn't seen them before. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJ8 Healeys Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey Birthday Card Hello, Healeyphiles - While in Books-A-Million today, I noted that they have a birthday card with a drawing of a blue BJ8 (dual lights) on the front. The text reads: "Brother Each birthday is a wonderful gift - a key that can unlock new doors into the future, a starting point on the roads yet to travel" Inside is the word "Enjoy" The card is about 9 inches high by 3-1/2 to 4 inches wide, is made by American Greetings, and is priced at $1.99. I know there are some of you that collect stuff like this, and there may even be some who would like to use the card for its intended purpose. There are four of them with envelopes in the rack. If there is enough interest, I can buy the stock and mail them out for the cost of the card(s) plus postage. First come, first served. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 17:45:10 2009 From: "Quinn, Patrick" To: Healeys Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:04:36 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! G'day Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is fitted with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power boosted. I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums skimmed to suit. I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and just wait until they ride up with wear? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 18:44:01 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: "Quinn, Patrick" Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:59:53 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! Patrick - It might not be your shoes at all. Are your rubber hoses new or old? If old maybe one of them is delaminating inside? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Quinn, Patrick wrote: > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is > fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power > boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums > and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 18:44:35 2009 From: keith taylor To: healeys Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:08:54 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! Patrick You live in the perfect location to solve this problem What is the gradient on Kurragong Hill 2:1 They will be well bedded at the bottom. OR Check your tired old brake hoses. Keith Taylor BN1 BN2 100M....if I ever finish them 2009/11/2 Quinn, Patrick > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is > fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power > boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums > and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ktee20@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 19:15:09 2009 From: George Vernau To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:15:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] update to BJ8 calipers leaking Recently I asked for help on caliper seals that wouldn't seal and received a bunch of good advice. I finally went through everything successfully and thought I'd pass on the results. The seals I had from Moss didn't seal and didn't look too good- sort of a scalloped look to the cut edges. I ordered a high quality kit from the Nocks along with the O rings needed to split/ reseal the calipers. When I split the calipers and was able to get a good look I found lots of corrosion and roughness in the grooves that hold the seals. I cleaned and ground those grooves smooth again, installed the new seals, and put it all back together with a little silicone brake lube. With the calipers apart it's a slick and easy job. I feel stupid for doing it the hard way in the past- those O rings are cheap. Now everything works (and stops) like new again with no leaks. Also, in fairness to Moss, despite the appearance of the caliper kit, I think they would have sealed fine if it wasn't for all the corrosion/ roughness I left in the grooves. George Vernau 1967 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 20:15:13 2009 From: Don Hardie To: , Austin Healey Autox Forum Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:21:40 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! Sounds like you have put standard size shoes into oversize drums and you're only getting contact on a very small area of the shoes. It could take some time to wear them down to get full contact. You might have to get them relined again to the size of the drums. Don Hardie BN1 OZ > From: Patrick.Quinn@det.nsw.edu.au > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:04:36 +1100 > Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! > > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeynut@hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 21:49:57 2009 From: "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" To: "'Richard'" , "'Tiger List'" Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:58:43 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] update to BJ8 calipers leaking << ...put it all back together... >> WHERE did you get the NEW bolts, George ?? Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 1 23:13:58 2009 From: Richard Ewald To: Healey List , sales@justbrits.com Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:16:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] OT: A little bird told me That our list's very own curmudgeon, Ed at Just Brits, is having a birthday today. I don't know how old he is, but rumor has it that he is just 1 year older than dirt. Happy birthday Ed. Rick _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 2 02:14:39 2009 From: Oudesluys To: "Quinn, Patrick" Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:30:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! Leading and trailing shoe in the wrong order? Kees Oudesluijs NL Quinn, Patrick schreef: > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 2 06:44:53 2009 From: Tom Felts To: patrick.quinn@det.nsw.edu.au, Don Hardie , Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 6:48:27 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! What you said seems contradictory to me. If the shoes are too small for the drums, how will they ever fit? ---- Don Hardie wrote: ============= Sounds like you have put standard size shoes into oversize drums and you're only getting contact on a very small area of the shoes. It could take some time to wear them down to get full contact. You might have to get them relined again to the size of the drums. Don Hardie BN1 OZ > From: Patrick.Quinn@det.nsw.edu.au > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:04:36 +1100 > Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! > > G'day > > Here is something to exercise your collective minds around. > > Recently fitted new brake linings to the front of the BN3/1. The car is fitted > with Austin sedan front suspension and drum brakes. It is not power boosted. > > I previously enjoyed good brakes, but as the linings were delaminating from > the shoes I thought it best to fit new linings. > > The shoes were fitted and adjusted without a problem. There was a slight > rubbing after the drums were refitted. I did not have the linings/drums > skimmed to suit. > > I went out yesterday and clearly had forgotten to take my proton pill as it > needed the pushing power of ten blokes to pull the bloody thing up. > > So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and > just wait until they ride up with wear? > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeynut@hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454 Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 2 10:46:04 2009 From: George Vernau To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:52:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] update to BJ8 calipers leaking << ...put it all back together... WHERE did you get the NEW bolts, George ?? >> Ed- I just used the old ones, added thread locker, and torqued them to 40 & 60 ft lbs. George Vernau _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 2 11:40:20 2009 From: "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" To: , , Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:53:31 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] OT: A little bird told me <> Thanks Rick, but you got it wrong !! Younger !!! Made it (barely) to 39 again. LOL Ed _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 2 13:38:47 2009 From: Richard Ewald To: "sales@justbrits.com" Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:49:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] OT: A little bird told me So would that be the 39th anniversary of your 39th birthday? rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:53, "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" wrote: > < older than dirt.>> > > Thanks Rick, but you got it wrong !! Younger !!! > Made it (barely) to 39 again. LOL > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 2 15:39:51 2009 From: HealeyRick To: Healeys , PatrickQuinn Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:48:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! Waiting tor it just to "ride up with wear" always seemed to work for Mr. Lucas on "Are You Being Served?" Assuming you didn't touch the wheel cylinders and had good brakes before, I'd check to see if you put the shoes in correctly, check for any grease or brake fluid contamination on the linings and drums, and if everything is ok, would skim the shoes to match the drums. Finally you should bed the shoes as described here: http://planetminis.com/f14/ferodo-brake-shoes-72536.html Alternatively you could try this: http://www.da7c.co.uk/technical_torque_articles/bedding_in_new_brake_shoes.ht m Good luck, Rick --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Quinn, Patrick wrote: From: Quinn, Patrick Subject: [Healeys] Great Pedal - No Stop! To: "Healeys" Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 7:04 PM So what's the problem? Should I have the shoes skimmed to suit the drums and just wait until they ride up with wear? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick@yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 2 18:12:04 2009 From: Richard Kahn To: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:35:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Painter in Northern California Can some one recommend a painter in the Northern California area to do my BJ8? Almost rust free with no body work. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 2 20:42:22 2009 From: 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7@comcast.net> To: George Vernau Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:06:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] update to BJ8 calipers leaking << I just used the old ones, added thread locker, and torqued them to 40 & 60 ft lbs. >> You realize the Torque Values HAVE changed, right George ?? Only the Lord knows what would be a 'correct' figure to use. That IS why [can't recall which] Girling/Lockheed came out with a Service Bulletin which STATED to ONLY use NEW bolts when splitting calipers. Ed _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 04:10:27 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Richard Kahn Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:21:25 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Painter in Northern California Richard - Norm and David Nock do Austin Healeys all day long. Some would argue they are one of the world's foremost experts on AH's, especially in the parts area. They know how to work with their local paint guy to get the job done correctly - it's a little more complicated with Austin Healeys because of the bolted fenders and beading. http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/ and a sample of their work: http://seelodi.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5501031522/m/4401030722 Also in Stockton, so their overheads are a little lower than being in the Bay Area.... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Richard Kahn wrote: > Can some one recommend a painter in the Northern California area to do my > BJ8? > Almost rust free with no body work. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 08:10:52 2009 From: Jack Feldman To: healeys@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:17:25 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, rodents. The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry softener in the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, and didn't smell. I never heard of this before. Has anyone? Jack _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 09:14:57 2009 From: Stephen Hutchings To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:16:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage I've heard of using those same sheets of laundry softener, or "Bounce", to control spiders in sailboats. I haven't tried it myself, but I plan to. It would be great if it works, because nobody wants a sports car, or a sail boat, to smell of mothballs! Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 09:46:29 2009 From: redlands ron davies To: healeys@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net, Jack Feldman Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:54:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Jack, I had heard that also and gave it a try. Rodents ate the leather seats in my Bugeye. They were putting pecan nuts in the cars as well. I removed the pecan tree, as it was a nuisance anyway, and put dryer sheets in all of my cars. So far, no more rodents and no more pecan shells in the cars. That has been two or three years. I'm just not positive that it is the dryer sheets or getting rid of their food source. I also put out rodent bait. I say give it a try. Ron AN5-BN2-BN2mod-BJ8 --- On Tue, 11/3/09, Jack Feldman wrote: From: Jack Feldman Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage To: healeys@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 6:17 AM I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, rodents. The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry softener in the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, and didn't smell. I never heard of this before. Has anyone? Jack Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as rnsdavies@verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 10:13:10 2009 From: Al Malin To: healey help Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:24:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Jack, I would put more trust in several doses of rodent poison strategically placed in, under, and around the car and occasionally refresh the "treats". Al Malin Tricarb On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, > rodents. > > The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry > softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than > mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin@mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 10:13:35 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: s.hutchings@rogers.com, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:25:34 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage A lot depends on where we store our cars and what the surroundings are like. Before we sold our farm I had a small unheated building in which I kept my 100 for the winter--wrapped in a breathable cover to keep out moisture, etc and I found definite evidence (droppings, chewed up newspaper, etc) that the critters were definitely looking for warm places to lay their heads for the winter, so I used mothballs, etc. Now I have the luxury of keeping my car in a heated garage without having to cover it, so I do not plan to use anything. BTW I live in MD and we have plenty of moderate winter days here so I always try to take the car for a ride at least once a month to get things warmed up, etc, just so long as the salt has been washed off the streets from the last storm if any. Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 10:13:46 2009 From: stephen white To: s.hutchings@rogers.com, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:36:41 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage I once stored a boat on a farm for the winter and the cows ate all the rubber fittings and handles off the trailer. We found out about it because the farmer called to say one of his cows was injured because it had started on the tires. Stephen Hutchings wrote: > I've heard of using those same sheets of laundry softener, or > "Bounce", to control spiders in sailboats. I haven't tried it myself, > but I plan to. > It would be great if it works, because nobody wants a sports car, or a > sail boat, to smell of mothballs! > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as stephen.white@wku.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 10:14:21 2009 From: Al Malin To: healey help Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:28:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Overheard this conversation: "Did you ever smell moth balls?" "Yeah." "How did you get between it's legs?" With apologies, Al Malin Tricarb On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, > rodents. > > The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry > softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than > mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin@mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 11:11:09 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:27:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage The cow got tired out? ;) > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:36:41 -0600 > > I once stored a boat on a farm for the winter and the cows ate all the > rubber fittings and handles off the trailer. We found out about it > because the farmer called to say one of his cows was injured because it > had started on the tires. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 11:43:10 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:53:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage My musings on rodents. Baited traps attract mice? Do the poisons also attract mice? We're not looking to attract them are we? And, if you poison them, then you will likely have dead mice curled up in some recess in your garage, and you'll be wondering what the smell is. My rule of thumb is that, unless I see evidence of mice being present, I don't put food out for them. If there is evidence of their presence, I bait a trap and kill and dispose of it. I then bait another trap and leave it for a week, in case there were 2, and then remove it. I don't know if that's wise or not ... but, that's the way I do it. What about heat? Are rodents more likely to be attracted to a warm garage over an unheated garage. I'm guessing "not much". I have had a couple of experiences with rodents in the garage, but never with a car that is on jack stands and never where moth balls were present. ( The worst damage that I've suffered is that something ate the strings off the tags for the wiring harness for my Sprite. ) I'm wondering if the jack stands are impossible for them to climb. The 100 will be on the hoist, so I'll use bounce sheets in it. I'm figuring that mice can't climb up there, but I'll be careful anyway. Robert D. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 12:13:25 2009 From: "Frakes, Jim" To: "redlands ron davies" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:20:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Well, I can't say it has not worked, as I see no damage in my Nasty 100 with Bounce sheets in it. However, I too put out some bad bait for the rodents and find a demised one every once in a while. Other items they have eaten if there is cloth of any kind around. Jim -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of redlands ron davies Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:55 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net; mgs@autox.team.net; Jack Feldman Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Jack, I had heard that also and gave it a try. Rodents ate the leather seats in my Bugeye. They were putting pecan nuts in the cars as well. I removed the pecan tree, as it was a nuisance anyway, and put dryer sheets in all of my cars. So far, no more rodents and no more pecan shells in the cars. That has been two or three years. I'm just not positive that it is the dryer sheets or getting rid of their food source. I also put out rodent bait. I say give it a try. Ron AN5-BN2-BN2mod-BJ8 --- On Tue, 11/3/09, Jack Feldman wrote: From: Jack Feldman Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage To: healeys@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 6:17 AM I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, rodents. The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry softener in the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, and didn't smell. I never heard of this before. Has anyone? 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Adjustment appears to be done via the cross-tube after loosening the lock nuts which are RHT & LHT at either end. OK so far? I take the cross tube to be the only large bar/rod which connects the two steering area (other than the anti roll bar of course). I've tried loosening off the nuts at either end of this bar with no luck at all. I've not applied too much torque as it seems to be an area where things could bend! The nuts don't appear to be separate from the rod; they appear to be part of it, unless they're very neatly finished off. Am I missing the point here? It all seems so tight and generally immovable that I don't see how it can be done...hence the feeling that I'm trying too hard to do the wrong thing. Any suggestions? I'm not convinced that I want to do the final adjustments myself, not having the correct equipment, but I'd like to a) understand the issues and b) have it ready/loose enough for the local tyre and wheel place to be able to get near it.... Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 13:31:57 2009 From: Ray Juncal To: List Healey Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:50:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] another weird request Anyone on the list with a wrecked 100 windshield frame ?? I need a six inch length of the top horizontal fame to repair one that I have. Ray Juncal _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 14:00:09 2009 From: Richard Gordon To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:57:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage The problem with poisons are, if you use poison, then you are putting that poison into the eco system. If the mouse isn't eaten by another animal (say a hawk or an eagle) which would also likely die, then the poison will make it into the ground. The more you put out there, the more it is likely to come back to haunt you. Kill them if you have to, but I wouldn't recommend using poison. Richard _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 14:57:25 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:21:30 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 15:28:45 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Simon Lachlan Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:29:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering issues Simon, You cannot check the wheel alignment with the wheels of the floor. The car has to be on its 4 wheels with the correct tire pressures, fully settled with ca. 75 kg on each seat (rolled back and forward, bounced up and down) on a horizontal and level surface before you can do any meaningfull measurements. Soak the nuts in penetrant oil for a while, grip the cross tube with a pipe wrench and loosen the nuts, they are not part of the tube. Check for left hand and right hand thread. Turning the tube will move the wheels pointing both inward or both outward at the same time. Make sure that the steering wheel is positioned in the middle position when both front wheels are in the straight ahead position and check that the wheels can be turned the same amount each way. Best left to the pro's though, as they have the right equipment. Kees Oudesluijs NL Simon Lachlan schreef: > My car is a 3000, MkII BT7. > I have the car on blocks, nose up, wheels on or off, grille out - everything > accessible. > So, the front wheels do not appear to be anything like parallel. I know that > the car is hardly in the right posture for this to be properly tested, but > I'd like to acquaint myself with the dos and donts in this area before I get > in too much of a panic. > I don't find any of my manuals to be very helpful. Adjustment appears to be > done via the cross-tube after loosening the lock nuts which are RHT & LHT at > either end. OK so far? I take the cross tube to be the only large bar/rod > which connects the two steering area (other than the anti roll bar of > course). I've tried loosening off the nuts at either end of this bar with no > luck at all. I've not applied too much torque as it seems to be an area > where things could bend! The nuts don't appear to be separate from the rod; > they appear to be part of it, unless they're very neatly finished off. Am I > missing the point here? > It all seems so tight and generally immovable that I don't see how it can be > done...hence the feeling that I'm trying too hard to do the wrong thing. > Any suggestions? I'm not convinced that I want to do the final adjustments > myself, not having the correct equipment, but I'd like to a) understand the > issues and b) have it ready/loose enough for the local tyre and wheel place > to be able to get near it.... > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.47/2478 - Release Date: 11/03/09 07:36:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 15:29:26 2009 From: I Erbs To: healey help Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:34:43 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] rust repair begins hello all, After only 35 years I am about to embark on getting the rust repaired on my car. The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. he has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. I sent him a link to kilmartin's exploded view of chassis and body panel sto acquaint him with the car. he has seen it many times... So my questions... We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the engine in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they be removed? I will check the archives for info on engine paint info, but if someone wanted to chime in I'd be Ok with that :) What else do I need to look out for? Also, I want to replace my BT7 clutch assembly with a BJ series, what do I need? I have a lightened flywheel on my car now. I believe I need to replace it, or does someone have a pattern for re-drilling it to accept the BJ parts? There a couple of NOS front fenders on EBAY for 1K delivered. Is it beter to repair known fitting parts or just go with new? lastly, does anyone have the restorers guide I could borrow? I've seen them for over $160.00 on the net.... I live in Portland, Oregon, so If anyone wants to stop by and lend a hand, I'll buy the beer and a meal. Although the beer will have to wait until after we leave school grounds.... I am looking for a nice steetable car, not a show car. I only paid $500.00 for the car, so its hard to recalibrate my thinking about how much these toys are worth...I just want to drive a nice looking car to match how well it runs. -- Ira Erbs Portland, OR the car will be located in Milwaukie, OR if you want to help out _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 15:29:42 2009 From: S and T Miller To: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:57:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Painter in Northern California I would suggest the Nock's as well. Being a former AH restoration guy, they always require some body work, unless one wants a wavey car. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 15:57:54 2009 From: I Erbs To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:03:22 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage stewart little On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 15:59:15 2009 From: Jody Kerr To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:20:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage How about investing in a good mouser? :) Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and presto. No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. (*grin*) Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 16:28:46 2009 From: "Quinn, Patrick" To: "'Richard Gordon'" , Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:48:12 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage G'day Richard I agree. We live on what use to be a small farm and the cars are kept in what used to be a machinery/milking shed. Mice were a problem and it was always easy to see where they had been by their droppings. A few years back one of the kids yelled out to his mother not go into the barn. I went to investigate and curled up on a workbench was a large diamond python that had a pronounced bulge along its body. If you didn't know, a diamond python is a harmless snake, unless of course you are a mouse. Since then we have encouraged the python to stay by placing the occasional piece of snake food out for it to eat. We know it's still about by its droppings which are rather big. Just last Sunday I saw a sizeable Blue Tongue Lizard coming out of where we keep the Healey Duncan. Blue Tongues are wonderful for keeping pests down in and around the garden including slugs, snails, spiders and insects. They also like to pinch the dog food. Thankfully the venomous black and brown snakes stay outside where they belong with the spiders. However we do have both ring-tail and brush-tail possums that like to sleep in amongst the car parts. The brush-tail is the largest at about the size of a domestic cat and being protected I leave them alone. They can be a pest, especially when they get in the house and rip curtains to shreds. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Gordon Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2009 6:57 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage The problem with poisons are, if you use poison, then you are putting that poison into the eco system. If the mouse isn't eaten by another animal (say a hawk or an eagle) which would also likely die, then the poison will make it into the ground. The more you put out there, the more it is likely to come back to haunt you. Kill them if you have to, but I wouldn't recommend using poison. Richard ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 16:29:27 2009 From: Don Day To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:56:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block Good Evening List Does anyone have the torque spec. for my brass nuts/steel nuts attaching the exhaust manifold and the intake manifold to the head of my BJ-8.Does anyone have a list of all the torque specs of the nuts and bolts for our cars? Thanks Don _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 18:27:56 2009 From: Tom Felts To: Jody Kerr , robertduquette@sympatico.ca Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:27:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Just make sure the cat can't get inside the car. My friends Healey seat backs have claw marks from a cat that just wanted to scratch. ---- Jody Kerr wrote: ============= How about investing in a good mouser? :) Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and presto. No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. (*grin*) Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 18:28:17 2009 From: Tom Felts To: 'Richard Gordon' , "Quinn, Patrick" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:29:30 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage In my previous garage (separate from the house), there lived about 8 black and brown snakes. I never bothered them and they seemed to stay full---hopefully of mice. ---- "Quinn wrote: ============= G'day Richard I agree. We live on what use to be a small farm and the cars are kept in what used to be a machinery/milking shed. Mice were a problem and it was always easy to see where they had been by their droppings. A few years back one of the kids yelled out to his mother not go into the barn. I went to investigate and curled up on a workbench was a large diamond python that had a pronounced bulge along its body. If you didn't know, a diamond python is a harmless snake, unless of course you are a mouse. Since then we have encouraged the python to stay by placing the occasional piece of snake food out for it to eat. We know it's still about by its droppings which are rather big. Just last Sunday I saw a sizeable Blue Tongue Lizard coming out of where we keep the Healey Duncan. Blue Tongues are wonderful for keeping pests down in and around the garden including slugs, snails, spiders and insects. They also like to pinch the dog food. Thankfully the venomous black and brown snakes stay outside where they belong with the spiders. However we do have both ring-tail and brush-tail possums that like to sleep in amongst the car parts. The brush-tail is the largest at about the size of a domestic cat and being protected I leave them alone. They can be a pest, especially when they get in the house and rip curtains to shreds. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Gordon Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2009 6:57 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage The problem with poisons are, if you use poison, then you are putting that poison into the eco system. If the mouse isn't eaten by another animal (say a hawk or an eagle) which would also likely die, then the poison will make it into the ground. The more you put out there, the more it is likely to come back to haunt you. Kill them if you have to, but I wouldn't recommend using poison. Richard ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 18:59:33 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: "Quinn, Patrick" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:09:01 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Patrick - For something like your possum problem in the US you can hire a pistol packin' hirsute midget varmint hunter named Yosemite Sam. He's a bit noisy and tends to shoot up the place, but he's got a world class work ethic which is hard to find these days. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Quinn, Patrick wrote: > G'day Richard > > I agree. We live on what use to be a small farm and the cars are kept in > what > used to be a machinery/milking shed. Mice were a problem and it was always > easy to see where they had been by their droppings. > > A few years back one of the kids yelled out to his mother not go into the > barn. I went to investigate and curled up on a workbench was a large > diamond > python that had a pronounced bulge along its body. If you didn't know, a > diamond python is a harmless snake, unless of course you are a mouse. Since > then we have encouraged the python to stay by placing the occasional piece > of > snake food out for it to eat. We know it's still about by its droppings > which > are rather big. > > Just last Sunday I saw a sizeable Blue Tongue Lizard coming out of where we > keep the Healey Duncan. Blue Tongues are wonderful for keeping pests down > in > and around the garden including slugs, snails, spiders and insects. They > also > like to pinch the dog food. > > Thankfully the venomous black and brown snakes stay outside where they > belong > with the spiders. > > However we do have both ring-tail and brush-tail possums that like to sleep > in > amongst the car parts. The brush-tail is the largest at about the size of a > domestic cat and being protected I leave them alone. They can be a pest, > especially when they get in the house and rip curtains to shreds. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 19:00:51 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Don Day Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:20:42 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block Don - Congratulations of having a set of brass nuts. They are clearly an indication that if I was on Omaha beach I'd want you to be the guy in my platoon with the BAR. By design the brass nuts on the manifold are essentially self locking (when new), this is why it is always recommended that when you take these nuts off, you replace them with new ones. As brass they can't take that much torque anyway. The manifold to head nuts should be torqued quite lightly, only about 25 - 30 ft lbs. If you tighten them too much, you can warp the manifold and pinch the gasket and either get intake leaks or exhaust leaks. The nuts are larger so they will be very good at keeping in place over time. The exhaust to downpipe nuts can be torqued a little tighter, maximum 35-40 ft lbs. Again, the downpipe gasket is a thick copper coated gasket, so you don't want to overtighten and pinch the gasket, otherwise you'll get leaks over time. Only on this particular gasket I like to use Permatex anti-seize on both surfaces to keep the gasket from sticking to either surface over time. Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Don Day wrote: > Good Evening List > Does anyone have the torque spec. for my brass nuts/steel nuts attaching > the exhaust manifold and the intake manifold to the head of my BJ-8.Does > anyone have a list of all the torque specs of the nuts and bolts for our > cars? > Thanks Don > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 19:27:55 2009 From: I Erbs To: Oudesluys Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:31:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] battery I checked the archive > 59 BT7 neg ground 3000 >> > I followed the archive thread and found what looks like a pos ground battery due to location of terminals. can someone tell me the model of the right battery. Such as a 27F or ??/ I need one tonight. Can't see what my old one is Thanks Ira > I have the car on blocks, nose up, wheels on or off, grille out - >> everything >> accessible. >> So, the front wheels do not appear to be anything like parallel. I know >> that >> the car is hardly in the right posture for this to be properly tested, but >> I'd like to acquaint myself with the dos and donts in this area before I >> get >> in too much of a panic. >> I don't find any of my manuals to be very helpful. Adjustment appears to >> be >> done via the cross-tube after loosening the lock nuts which are RHT & LHT >> at >> either end. OK so far? I take the cross tube to be the only large bar/rod >> which connects the two steering area (other than the anti roll bar of >> course). I've tried loosening off the nuts at either end of this bar with >> no >> luck at all. I've not applied too much torque as it seems to be an area >> where things could bend! The nuts don't appear to be separate from the >> rod; >> they appear to be part of it, unless they're very neatly finished off. Am >> I >> missing the point here? >> It all seems so tight and generally immovable that I don't see how it can >> be >> done...hence the feeling that I'm trying too hard to do the wrong thing. >> Any suggestions? I'm not convinced that I want to do the final adjustments >> myself, not having the correct equipment, but I'd like to a) understand >> the >> issues and b) have it ready/loose enough for the local tyre and wheel >> place >> to be able to get near it.... >> Simon >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl >> >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: >> 270.14.47/2478 - Release Date: 11/03/09 07:36:00 >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 19:38:36 2009 From: I Erbs To: Roland Wilhelmy Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:33:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] rust repair begins I actually found one by gary and roger moment doe 40.00, but others were selling it for north of 150.00 !! On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote: > Ira- > > What is the official name of this book/guide? $160 seems way too > expensive for any book I know about (and have). If I've got one (or > more) I'll try to be of help. > > -Roland > > On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:34:43 -0800, you wrote: > > ::lastly, does anyone have the restorers guide I could borrow? I've seen > them > ::for over $160.00 on the net.... > -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 19:39:51 2009 From: I Erbs To: Tom Felts Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:56:44 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage RATHER have mice than cats. Actually I bought a can of fox poop to use to keep squirrels out of my roof overhang area. bet it would work on mice.... On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > Just make sure the cat can't get inside the car. My friends Healey seat > backs have claw marks from a cat that just wanted to scratch. > > > ---- Jody Kerr wrote: > > ============= > How about investing in a good mouser? :) > > Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and presto. > No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. > (*grin*) > > Jody > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > 1953 Studebaker Champion > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on > ebay! > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent > disinclination to do so." > --Douglas Adams > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 20:18:20 2009 From: "Mark LaPierre" To: "Jack Feldman" , , Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:11:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage I have been storing my MGB-GT at the old Studebaker car plant for many years with moth balls. The care taker informed me last time that I restoked my moth balls that most of the owners were using dryer sheets cause the smell of the moth balls lingers for a long time in the carpet and seats after the car is out of storage. The dryer sheets repel the rodents and give the car a much more pleasant smell after storage. Also it is advised not to put any scented item directly on carpet ,seats dashes etc. cause the smell inbeds itself in the material . Use a cup or something similar. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Feldman" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage >I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, rodents. > > The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem@sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 20:18:51 2009 From: "Mark LaPierre" To: "Alan Seigrist" , "Don Day" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:27:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block That anti seize has a really funky smell when its at room temp. What does it smell like when it gets up to exhaust temp. and how can you tell if its properties remain the same after its heated to that degree? Does it even stay in place or burn off? Mark > > The exhaust to downpipe nuts can be torqued a little tighter, maximum > 35-40 > ft lbs. Again, the downpipe gasket is a thick copper coated gasket, so > you > don't want to overtighten and pinch the gasket, otherwise you'll get leaks > over time. Only on this particular gasket I like to use Permatex > anti-seize > on both surfaces to keep the gasket from sticking to either surface over > time. > > Best, > > Alan > > '52 A90 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 20:19:04 2009 From: Tom To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:39:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage I heard a story about one that got shot out of the tailpipe, bounced off the back wall, and ran like heck afterwards... It's supposed to be true. - Tom On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM, wrote: > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 20:48:31 2009 From: Jack Feldman To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:50:09 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers Patrick signs off that the lives in Sydney, yet claims pythons, possums, Lizards as being common. I thought perhaps he had seen to many episodes of *Are You Being Served*. Then I realized that I live in Downers Grove, about 10 miles of urban sprawl from Chicago. We have deer, foxes, coyotes, possums, skunks, and red tailed hawks. There are peregrine falcons in Chicago. They were introduced to keep the pidgeon populations in check. We used to have rabbits and feral cats, but I suspect the foxes and coyotes took care of them. Jack _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 20:50:41 2009 From: dwflagg To: eyera3@gmail.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:06:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Actually, you can use cat hair (they tend to shed a lot!!). We use it in our attic and have not seen any mice since. > RATHER have mice than cats. > Actually I bought a can of fox poop to use to keep squirrels out of > my roof > overhang area. bet it would work on mice.... > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Tom Felts > wrote: > > > Just make sure the cat can't get inside the car. My friends > Healey seat > > backs have claw marks from a cat that just wanted to scratch. > > > > > > ---- Jody Kerr wrote: > > > > ============= > > How about investing in a good mouser? :) > > > > Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and > presto. > > No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. > > (*grin*) > > > > Jody > > -- > > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > > 1953 Studebaker Champion > > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) > > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling > parts on > > ebay! > > > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to > learn > > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their > apparent > > disinclination to do so." > > --Douglas Adams > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as eyera3@gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dwflagg@juno.com > > ww.team.net/archive > ____________________________________________________________ Criminal Justice Degrees Start your criminal justice career. Earn your degree 100% online! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=afHhh8U6zMCaFTb4ziulPAAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAMUgID8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQKAAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 21:48:35 2009 From: "Quinn, Patrick" To: "'Jack Feldman'" , "healeys@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:03:18 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers Greetings Jack I live in the mountains about 90mins drive from the coast and Sydney. If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue where I was talking about. As far as the animals! Yes I mean in Sydney. The possum is an Australian marsupial and should not be likened with North American version and of all the animals have adapted to living closely with mankind. Possums, snakes, lizards and foxes etc are all to be found within walking distance of the Sydney Central Business District, but of course are more prevalent the further away you are. In my previous home just 15 minutes drive north of Sydney we had all sorts of wildlife living in the roof, but possums were the most prevalent. They also make a loud noise when walking across the ceiling and roof. Many times my wife thinks it's an intruder when its' a possum. Possums may look cute and cuddly, but can be a pest. At the other end of the scale the Blue Tongue Lizard are the most adaptable to living close to humans and make good pets. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, New South Wales, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jack Feldman Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2009 1:50 PM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers Patrick signs off that the lives in Sydney, yet claims pythons, possums, Lizards as being common. I thought perhaps he had seen to many episodes of *Are You Being Served*. Then I realized that I live in Downers Grove, about 10 miles of urban sprawl from Chicago. We have deer, foxes, coyotes, possums, skunks, and red tailed hawks. There are peregrine falcons in Chicago. They were introduced to keep the pidgeon populations in check. We used to have rabbits and feral cats, but I suspect the foxes and coyotes took care of them. Jack ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 21:49:44 2009 From: Ray Juncal To: 'Richard Gordon' , Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:19:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Geeze Patrick you live in a real zoo. Ray --- On Tue, 11/3/09, Quinn, Patrick wrote: From: Quinn, Patrick Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage To: "'Richard Gordon'" , "healeys@autox.team.net" Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 2:48 PM G'day Richard I agree. We live on what use to be a small farm and the cars are kept in what used to be a machinery/milking shed. Mice were a problem and it was always easy to see where they had been by their droppings. A few years back one of the kids yelled out to his mother not go into the barn. I went to investigate and curled up on a workbench was a large diamond python that had a pronounced bulge along its body. If you didn't know, a diamond python is a harmless snake, unless of course you are a mouse. Since then we have encouraged the python to stay by placing the occasional piece of snake food out for it to eat. We know it's still about by its droppings which are rather big. Just last Sunday I saw a sizeable Blue Tongue Lizard coming out of where we keep the Healey Duncan. Blue Tongues are wonderful for keeping pests down in and around the garden including slugs, snails, spiders and insects. They also like to pinch the dog food. Thankfully the venomous black and brown snakes stay outside where they belong with the spiders. However we do have both ring-tail and brush-tail possums that like to sleep in amongst the car parts. The brush-tail is the largest at about the size of a domestic cat and being protected I leave them alone. They can be a pest, especially when they get in the house and rip curtains to shreds. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 3 23:17:16 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Mark LaPierre Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:26:48 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block Mark - Permatex Anti-seize is the best thing ever invented. I think it's rated to 1,900 degrees. It never goes away and keeps the rust off, permanently. I always use it on all bolts and nuts when assembling. When I worked at The Geysers Geothermal Energy plant in N. California back in 1985, we used the stuff to keep pipe bolts and nuts from corroding together - the superheated steam we piped from a couple thousand feet down has all sorts of sulfur, Hydrocloric, Sulfuric, and other nasty corrosive acids which would reduce steel to rust in a couple of weeks. Whenever we used that stuff, we NEVER had a problem with disassembly. Smell is there for about 5 minutes after start-up, then dissappears. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > That anti seize has a really funky smell when its at room temp. What does > it smell like > when it gets up to exhaust temp. and how can you tell if its properties > remain > the same after its heated to that degree? Does it even stay in place or > burn off? > > Mark > > > > >> The exhaust to downpipe nuts can be torqued a little tighter, maximum >> 35-40 >> ft lbs. Again, the downpipe gasket is a thick copper coated gasket, so >> you >> don't want to overtighten and pinch the gasket, otherwise you'll get leaks >> over time. Only on this particular gasket I like to use Permatex >> anti-seize >> on both surfaces to keep the gasket from sticking to either surface over >> time. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 00:20:31 2009 From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: Alan Seigrist Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:23:35 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block Alan, What type do you use/recommend? Red, Blue, White? Cheers, Curt On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Mark - > > Permatex Anti-seize is the best thing ever invented. I think it's rated to > 1,900 degrees. It never goes away and keeps the rust off, permanently. I > always use it on all bolts and nuts when assembling. > > When I worked at The Geysers Geothermal Energy plant in N. California back > in 1985, we used the stuff to keep pipe bolts and nuts from corroding > together - the superheated steam we piped from a couple thousand feet down > has all sorts of sulfur, Hydrocloric, Sulfuric, and other nasty corrosive > acids which would reduce steel to rust in a couple of weeks. Whenever we > used that stuff, we NEVER had a problem with disassembly. > > Smell is there for about 5 minutes after start-up, then dissappears. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Mark LaPierre >wrote: > > > That anti seize has a really funky smell when its at room temp. What > does > > it smell like > > when it gets up to exhaust temp. and how can you tell if its properties > > remain > > the same after its heated to that degree? Does it even stay in place or > > burn off? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > >> The exhaust to downpipe nuts can be torqued a little tighter, maximum > >> 35-40 > >> ft lbs. Again, the downpipe gasket is a thick copper coated gasket, so > >> you > >> don't want to overtighten and pinch the gasket, otherwise you'll get > leaks > >> over time. Only on this particular gasket I like to use Permatex > >> anti-seize > >> on both surfaces to keep the gasket from sticking to either surface over > >> time. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Alan > >> > >> '52 A90 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 04:04:19 2009 From: Joe and Lenore Armour To: Healeys Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:21:16 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] Blokes, I need some assistence with the identification of an unusual 5 speed Healey gearbox in a Sprite prototype that has been made from genuine BMC components. The question what vehicle in the BMC range did these parts originate from so that I can overhaul the clutch throwout mechanisms. There will be a prize. Main gearbox; bellhousing and case is one casting. Opening and therefore side cover is on the left hand side - no selector rods fitted here. Internals are MGB straight gear set, 1st to 4th. Lever with carbon throwout bearing to activate clutch. Secondary housing bolted to the rear of main box has 5th gear. Selector mechanism is on top and enters direct into selector rods. Unlike a std. Sprite there is a flange bolted to the output shaft. All up very long. Best clue, the alloy plate inside the bellhousing, retaining the front main bearing and seal on the input shaft has the following cast into it; 22 H 27 DD 2 MOWOG Gearlever rubber boot - Girling # 488032 Lets go! _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 04:35:42 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:35:59 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] torque spec.exhaust to block Curt- You are confused. Anti-seize isn't a thread locker, it is technically a corrosion protectant and lubricant: http://www.permatex.com/products/Automotive/lubricants/specialty_lubricants/Permatex_Anti-Seize_Lubricant_a.htm Although the lubricating properties are really with respect to ease of dissasembly only, if your nuts are properly torqued it won't come loose with this stuff. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Alan, > > What type do you use/recommend? Red, Blue, White? > Cheers, > > Curt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 05:31:54 2009 From: Joe and Lenore Armour To: Healey Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:56:14 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Truth or Fiction in Car Storage and ZOO Ray Juncal wrote: >Geeze Patrick you live in a real zoo. >Ray > What do they say about leaving the whats a names in charge of the zoo? ( Have no fear 'The Mighty Quinn' and I share the same birthday and in my case had I been born just 4 days later in UK I could have been Prince Charles. Pat was a few years too late) I think he wants to take the BN.3 out for his birthday and visit me in a couple of days, maybe to help with my clutch problem. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 06:46:27 2009 From: Kent McLean To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:29:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers "Quinn, Patrick" wrote: > If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an > area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue > where I was talking about. Most of us don't have a clue where *Australia* is. It's in the Alps next to Italy, isn't it? :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 06:47:06 2009 From: ahy3000@comcast.net To: Jack Feldman Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Jack, I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000@comcast.net he puts sheets of laundry softener in the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, and didn't smell. I never heard of this before. Has anyone? Jack _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 06:47:33 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:53:28 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Okay. :) Correction: I don't "remember" ever seeeing a mouse with a ladder. :) From: eyera3@gmail.com stewart little On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 07:20:17 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:10:52 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage No, I don't think so. I've heard that having pets also attracts mice as there is always a bit of stray food lying around. I would hate to think how many mice would have to be around to self feed a cat. Then the cat goes and sharpens its claws on your seats or hood ... Good brainstorming though! > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:20:49 -0700 > > How about investing in a good mouser? :) > > Put a nice little kitty bed in front of your car, add cat and presto. > No more mice. And if the cat's any good it'll be self feeding. > (*grin*) > > Jody _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 07:23:21 2009 From: ahy3000@comcast.net To: "List, Healey" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Gas line plumbing I've seen lots of pix of cars with braided fuel lines in the engine compartment. I'm curious about the threaded connection that is marked N/A in the Moss catalog . It appears that this connection is 1/4" pipe thread and I haven't found a braided hose connection to match it. What did you do? Also, how do folks treat the cut end? I was thinking about heat shrink tape to keep the end from fraying. Any thoughts there? Also, just rebuilt my LCS-type fuel pump and lo and behold - it works! I am 99% certain that the condenser (not yet fitted) goes from ground (the wire clip grounds the body of the condenser) to the contact points blade screw. Yes? TIA for you help. Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000@comcast.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 08:06:38 2009 From: Jaap Aeckerlin To: ahy3000@comcast.net, Healey forum Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:50:15 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Question by a stupid Dutch: what are dryer sheets? Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/4 > Jack, > > I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the > cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat > bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and > everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and > you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! > > > Burt Weiner > '63 BJ7 > HBJ7L/23582 > ahy3000@comcast.net > he puts sheets of laundry softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 08:07:04 2009 From: "Dave Porter" To: , "'Healeys'" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:53:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Yep they can. Did a Jag E type resto a couple years ago and there was easily 10 pounds of dog food in the exhaust system and that giant air filter housing.. nimble little critters.. poor dog must have been skin and bones.. dp frogeye@porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette@sympatico.ca Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:53 AM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Okay. :) Correction: I don't "remember" ever seeeing a mouse with a ladder. :) From: eyera3@gmail.com stewart little On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye@porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 08:08:17 2009 From: "Reinhart Rosner \(aon\)" To: "'Kent McLean'" , Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:10:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers We do not have any kangaroos in Austria. And there are no opossums, blue tongue lizards or crocodiles. Most of our animals are not that dangerous as some in Australia like their snakes, spiders or jelly fish. But we do have mice. And I can tell you they do almost get everywhere (luckily not yet into my garage). They even ran in the cellar along the pipes of our central heating, which are mounted just below the ceiling - no clue how they got there. Maybe they know how to because we live near the Alps :) Reinhart 55 AH 100 BN1 -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Kent McLean Gesendet: Mittwoch, 04. November 2009 13:29 An: healeys@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers "Quinn, Patrick" wrote: > If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an > area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue > where I was talking about. Most of us don't have a clue where *Australia* is. It's in the Alps next to Italy, isn't it? :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as aon.912808691@aon.at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 08:51:17 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:27:25 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage "It's a little known fact" that some mice got into a dryer and went for a ride and they've passed the experience on by word of mouth that the scent warns of a dangerous area where they could be in for a rough ride? ;) You have to figure that, if that's true, then mice should stop getting into exhaust pipes also. :) Robert D. > From: lapierrem@sbcglobal.net > > The dryer sheets repel the rodents and > > Mark _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 08:51:45 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:29:15 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage It would be something to see ... coming out of someone else's car. I wonder what happens if they don't come out ... > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:39:35 -0500 > > I heard a story about one that got shot out of the tailpipe, bounced > off the back wall, and ran like heck afterwards... It's supposed > to be true. > > - Tom > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM, wrote: > > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the > > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they > > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 08:53:25 2009 From: Charlie Baldwin To: ahy3000@comcast.net Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:36:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Burt, How many sheets per car? I put about six in the interior, four in the trunk, and a couple under the hood. Is that enough? Charlie ahy3000@comcast.net wrote: > Jack, > > I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! > > > Burt Weiner > '63 BJ7 > HBJ7L/23582 > ahy3000@comcast.net > he puts sheets of laundry softener in > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, > and didn't smell. > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie@comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 08:54:03 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:49:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers Anyone who knows the difference between a French kiss and an Aussie kiss would have a better clue. :) > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:29:30 -0500 > > "Quinn, Patrick" wrote: > > If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an > > area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue > > where I was talking about. > > Most of us don't have a clue where *Australia* is. It's in the Alps next to > Italy, isn't it? > > :) > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 09:38:13 2009 From: "Tracy Drummond" To: , "'Healeys'" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:12:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Winter Car Storage Here is a link to a Winter Storage article I wrote last year. http://healey.org/content/view/400/1/ Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 09:38:33 2009 From: Jody Kerr To: "Reinhart Rosner (aon)" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:17:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers "Agatha and I are so much interested in Australia. It must be so pretty will all the dear little kangaroos flying about. Agatha has found it on the map. What a curious shape it is! Just like a large packing case." --every time I hear a silly conversation about Australia that pops into my head. Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 09:38:45 2009 From: ahy3000@comcast.net To: Jaap Aeckerlin Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Jaap, We Americans find new expensive and environmentally unfriendly ways to do just about everything. A dryer sheet is a piece of non-woven paper that is impregnated with a scent (and Lord knows what else). It is usually placed in the clothes dryer with the laundry and is supposed to remove static, make things smell good, and cure the common cold (okay, I made that last bit up). For some reason (perhaps because they are smarter than humans), chipmonks and mice don't like the things and stay away. Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000@comcast.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 09:39:38 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Joe and Lenore Armour Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:36:16 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] MOWOG probably stands for MOrris-WOlseley Group. I could be wrong but may be Lotus cobbled up something together for the early Lotus 7. Kees Oudesluijs NL Joe and Lenore Armour schreef: > Blokes, I need some assistence with the identification of an unusual 5 > speed Healey gearbox in a Sprite prototype that has been made from > genuine BMC components. The question what vehicle in the BMC range did > these parts originate from so that I can overhaul the clutch throwout > mechanisms. There will be a prize. > > Main gearbox; bellhousing and case is one casting. Opening and > therefore side cover is on the left hand side - no selector rods > fitted here. Internals are MGB straight gear set, 1st to 4th. Lever > with carbon throwout bearing to activate clutch. > Secondary housing bolted to the rear of main box has 5th gear. > Selector mechanism is on top and enters direct into selector rods. > Unlike a std. Sprite there is a flange bolted to the output shaft. > > All up very long. > > Best clue, the alloy plate inside the bellhousing, retaining the front > main bearing and seal on the input shaft has the following cast into it; > > 22 H 27 DD 2 > MOWOG > > Gearlever rubber boot - Girling # 488032 > > Lets go! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.48/2479 - Release Date: 11/03/09 19:38:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 09:39:49 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:39:25 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Hmmm! They're a fabric like small sheet ( like a tissue ) that is used primarily for anti-static purposes in the clothes drier. http://www.bouncesheets.com/en_CA/products/index.jsp > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:50:15 +0100 > > Question by a stupid Dutch: what are dryer sheets? > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > 2009/11/4 > > > Jack, > > > > I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the > > cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat > > bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and > > everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and > > you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! > > > > > > Burt Weiner _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 10:22:45 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:06:28 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Just thinking ... if the mice have to use the tires ( or stands ) as their access point, how about a sheet under each tire ( or stand )? ( Would a dryer sheet have an adverse effect on the tire? ) RD > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:36:35 -0500 > > Burt, > How many sheets per car? > I put about six in the interior, four in the trunk, and a couple under > the hood. Is that enough? > Charlie > > ahy3000@comcast.net wrote: > > Jack, > > > > I do this every winter - unheated garage in Massachusetts. I use the cheapest Wal-Mart brand dryer sheets. Make sure you put some under the seat bottoms (in the holes in the seat pans), in the heater box doors, and everywhere you think some critters will make a nest. Once the snow melts and you start thinking about driving again, you'll have a fresh smelling Healey! > > > > > > Burt Weiner > > '63 BJ7 > > HBJ7L/23582 > > ahy3000@comcast.net > > he puts sheets of laundry softener in > > the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than mothballs, > > and didn't smell. > > > > I never heard of this before. Has anyone? > > > > Jack > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie@comcast.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as robertduquette@sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 10:23:27 2009 From: David Nock To: Al Malin Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:19:44 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction balls and Car Storage All this talk reminds me that we all need take care of our Balls and protect them. Check out this site it is all about those precious BALLS http://www.got-ballz.com/ David Nock On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Al Malin wrote: > Overheard this conversation: > > "Did you ever smell moth balls?" > > "Yeah." > > "How did you get between it's legs?" > > With apologies, > Al Malin > Tricarb > > > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > >> I put the BGT away in a new place. It is on a farm with, no doubt, >> rodents. >> >> The owner of the building said that he ptst sheets of laundry >> softener in >> the cars to keep the critters away. He said it was better than >> mothballs, >> and didn't smell. >> >> I never heard of this before. Has anyone? >> >> Jack >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as amalin@mac.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc@sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 11:06:02 2009 From: Tom Felts To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca, Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:35:53 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage I shot two of them out of my XJ6 tailpipes several winters ago. They bounced off the wall, but never lived to tell anyone about it. ---- robertduquette@sympatico.ca wrote: ============= It would be something to see ... coming out of someone else's car. I wonder what happens if they don't come out ... > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:39:35 -0500 > > I heard a story about one that got shot out of the tailpipe, bounced > off the back wall, and ran like heck afterwards... It's supposed > to be true. > > - Tom > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM, wrote: > > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the > > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they > > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 11:37:32 2009 From: Jody Kerr To: Oudesluys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:57:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] Kees has it right. MOWOG means it's part of the Nuffield organization (later to be BMC after merging with Austin, and even later becoming British Leyland...) a.k.a Morris, Wolsley, Riley marques, later BMC & British Leyland Marques and anyone who eventually licensed any of the parts. What makes it fun, is that your transmission could have come from many different cars. I went out and took a peek at my transmission collection. It's not a Sprite/Midget tranmission, nor is it a Spitfire one (I've got 7 or 8 tranmissions for cars I don't own. Don't ask). I've never seen a MOWOG tranmission box that's a single unit including the bell housing. That's the part that really strikes me as odd about the whole thing. I'd start looking at the more offbeat cars like Riley's or Metropolitans. Can you send me a picture of the transmission? Does it have any external markings? A proper MOWOG tranmission should have it in big letters cast somewhere on the outside of the case. It's also entirely possible that it came from a vehicle that licensed MOWOG parts, so they might not have the word on the outside. Jody On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > MOWOG probably stands for MOrris-WOlseley Group. > I could be wrong but may be Lotus cobbled up something together for the > early Lotus 7. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 12:21:02 2009 From: "Don" To: , "'Healeys'" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:14:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage They don't need a ladder they only need a hole the size of their head. I found one in my 59' John Deere cooling system after it had sat for a couple of years with the bottom bolt removed from the drain. It had to jump over 3 feet up or was one hell of an acrobat to get in there. Don 57' BN4 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette@sympatico.ca Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:53 AM To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Okay. :) Correction: I don't "remember" ever seeeing a mouse with a ladder. :) From: eyera3@gmail.com stewart little On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in the exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can they really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 12:21:57 2009 From: "Mike Carpenter" To: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:17:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Temporary Suspension of List I will be a way for a few weeks - please suspend my membership until further notice. Thank You, Mike Carpenter _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 12:22:18 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:30:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage So, perhaps we better rethink the mice in exhaust systems getting expelled out at high velocity. Maybe it's not the exhaust expelling them, maybe they're just jumping!!! ;) I must say that I'm amazed when I see squirrels and chipmunks doing things like running on power lines or climbing up or down vertical walls or jumping from tree to tree. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised at what mice can do too. > From: don@anglesey.us > > They don't need a ladder they only need a hole the size of their head. > I found one in my 59' John Deere cooling system after it had sat for a > couple of years with the bottom bolt removed from the drain. It had to > jump over 3 feet up or was one hell of an acrobat to get in there. > Don > 57' BN4 > > -----Original Message----- > From: robertduquette@sympatico.ca > > Okay. :) Correction: I don't "remember" ever seeeing a mouse with a > ladder. > :) > > From: eyera3@gmail.com > > stewart little > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, wrote: > > Another thing that has been recommended to me is to put steel wool in > the > exhaust pipe to prevent rodents from going in and making nests. Can > they > really get in there? I've never seen a mouse with a little ladder! :) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 12:22:40 2009 From: ahy3000@comcast.net To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage My car sits on wood block with the tires off the ground - maybe little barbed wire fences around each wheel...... I know some owners use an inflatable plastic contraption that fits around the entire car, and keeps air circulating. I like to work on the car temperature permitting (unheated garage) so that wouldn't work for me. Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: robertduquette@sympatico.ca To: "Healeys" Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 11:06:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage Just thinking ... if the mice have to use the tires ( or stands ) as their access point, how about a sheet under each tire ( or stand )? ( Would a dryer sheet have an adverse effect on the tire? ) RD _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 12:55:12 2009 From: "moomau_verizon_mail" To: Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:41:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Gas line plumbing I have the same question that Burt Weiner asked about the gas line. If someone gives Burt an answer off line, please send me e-mail with the answers. Thank you, Gary Moomau, 67 BJ8 Yucaipa, CA _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 12:55:35 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:49:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Hello, I am rebuilding my 100 engine, and thought I would share some pictures with you - I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. http://picasaweb.google.com/Volvo1800S/HealeyEngine# BR, Tadek PS. Yes, the way the paint is done is not with accordance with concourse guidelines but the engine will be sprayed once assembled.. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 12:55:45 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: jodyfkerr@gmail.com, coudesluijs@chello.nl Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:51:23 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] The rear axle housing on my Elva Courier is described as a "Riley" rear axle. It has the same dimensions as that of a Morris Minor, is about 3-4 inches narrower than that of a Spridget and of course the third member is that out of a Sprite/Metro, Austin A 35, etc. etc. I think the English auto industry invented the acronym. Best--Michael Oritt --------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 1:37:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jodyfkerr@gmail.com writes: That's the part that really strikes me as odd about the whole thing. I'd start looking at the more offbeat cars like Riley's or Metropolitans. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 13:09:10 2009 From: Norman Nock To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:13:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healey skunk . truth a lady came into our shop to pick up her Healey .. she came into our office and said , " There is a skunk in my exhaust pipe " we went out side to see this skunk and found that some of the fiberglass packing from inside the muffler was hanging out of the rear exhaust pipe , color was white and black . Looked like a skunk .. Norman Nock ________________________________ From: Reinhart Rosner (aon) To: Kent McLean ; healeys@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 6:10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers We do not have any kangaroos in Austria. And there are no opossums, blue tongue lizards or crocodiles. Most of our animals are not that dangerous as some in Australia like their snakes, spiders or jelly fish. But we do have mice. And I can tell you they do almost get everywhere (luckily not yet into my garage). They even ran in the cellar along the pipes of our central heating, which are mounted just below the ceiling - no clue how they got there. Maybe they know how to because we live near the Alps :) Reinhart 55 AH 100 BN1 -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Kent McLean Gesendet: Mittwoch, 04. November 2009 13:29 An: healeys@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers "Quinn, Patrick" wrote: > If I were to sign off Blue Mountains, Australia - besides covering an > area much bigger than Sydney, most of you blokes wouldn't have a clue > where I was talking about. Most of us don't have a clue where *Australia* is. It's in the Alps next to Italy, isn't it? :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as aon.912808691@aon.at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sjnnock@sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 13:09:34 2009 From: "Tracy Drummond" To: "'Oudesluys'" , "'Joe and Lenore Armour'" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:17:22 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] Morris-Wolesley Garages Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:36 AM To: Joe and Lenore Armour Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] MOWOG probably stands for MOrris-WOlseley Group. I could be wrong but may be Lotus cobbled up something together for the early Lotus 7. Kees Oudesluijs NL _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 14:42:23 2009 From: Charlie Baldwin To: Tracy Drummond Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:47:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] While we're on the subject, I'll give you the correct meaning of MOWOG: *MO*rris-*WO*lseley-m*G *To me it makes more sense than the others. Charlie Tracy Drummond wrote: > Morris-Wolesley Garages > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Oudesluys > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:36 AM > To: Joe and Lenore Armour > Cc: Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] > > MOWOG probably stands for MOrris-WOlseley Group. > I could be wrong but may be Lotus cobbled up something together for the > early Lotus 7. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie@comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 15:27:36 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:18:15 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Tadeuz-- I don't see anything that is NOT "correct" but sure see a lot of nice looking stuff! The engine looks great. I have some questions: 1. What are you using for a front damper? 2. What are you using for a flex line between the oil pump pick up and the block? 3. What are you usiing for an oil pump --source? 4. Do you have any thoughts on proper clearance specs in the oil pump? 5. Nice pistons--whose are those and do you have any guess on compression ratio? Best--Michael Oritt ------------------------------------------------------ In a message dated 11/4/2009 2:55:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl writes: I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 15:27:54 2009 From: "Ed Woods" To: "Oudesluys" , "Joe and Lenore Armour" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:31:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] MOWOG I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg Ed Woods _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 16:09:03 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Ed Woods Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:45:08 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] MOWOG Could be as well. I suppose it is one of those thing nobody knows for certain. It certainly showed on Morris, Wolseley, MG and some others. Kees Oudesluijs NL Ed Woods schreef: > I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg > > Ed Woods > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.48/2479 - Release Date: 11/03/09 19:38:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 16:10:06 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:07:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay Pics are still up though the auction is over. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260494121478&_trksid=p27 59.l1259 Are those clear reflectors on the back? ( It's hard to tell on this monitor! They might be orange? ) ) And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 one is it? Robert D. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 16:59:28 2009 From: "Michael Couch" To: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:33:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage I had to replace a clutch in an early Audi Quattro because a mouse had built a nest inside the bell housing. The only access we could find was through an inspection hole that was 3/8" square. Very expensive Mike Couch Pittsburgh BN2 AN2 AN7 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 17:00:05 2009 From: dwflagg To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:34:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Trim Kit (non-Healey) A friend is interested in purchasing a cockpit trim kit for his Mercedes on eBay, item #270473673569, from newanystyle (id). Has anyone had experience with them or know someone who has. You can't always go on feedback, so he is looking for some first hand info. TIA. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Get Help With Your Credit Cards! Free online quote in 2 minutes. No credit check. No obligation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=SpKzy747NID2CaAxFbHoGQAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAHoRdz4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABI2lwAAAAA= _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 17:00:25 2009 From: "Robert Bender" To: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:38:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Does your car need a ride East?? Have an empty car trailer going from Tucson Arizona on the 23rd of November to Charleston SC if you have a need to get something back east. I'm a 61 year young man, very active in the Austin Healey Club of America for thirty years and have been hauling cars somewhere for that length of time. Hauling with a nearly new Dodge dually and a good open trailer. Price would be negotiable, between $400-$600 depending on weight, etc. If interested call 928-284-2186 or 413-695-1764 (cell) or e-mail austin3000@verizon.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 17:00:39 2009 From: "Quinn, Patrick" To: "'Ed Woods'" , Oudesluys Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:47:51 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] MOWOG G'day Yes you are right Ed. It reminds me of an amusing story of when the first Ford 260ci V8 arrived at AC to be fitted to the first AC Cobra. It arrived in a wooden crate with FoMoCo printed all over the box. The AC workers couldn't work out what FoMoCo meant and assumed that the engines were built in Japan or China. How interesting would it have been if the BMC grand poobahs at the time hadn't knocked back Shelby for an Austin-Healey to play with? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Woods Sent: Thursday, 5 November 2009 8:32 AM To: Oudesluys; Joe and Lenore Armour Cc: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] MOWOG I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg Ed Woods ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 17:42:12 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:20:26 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] MOWOG Well there's lots of discussion on the internet ... http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/mowog.htm I like these, personally ... Some say 'MoWoG' is the name of a god that has to be appeased with many offerings of fluids and expensive new parts, otherwise 'he' (or more probably 'she') will cause breakdowns at most inopportune moments. Others say it was a joke by a foreman in the casting shop many years ago, knowing that it would plague owners for years to come. > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:45:08 +0100 > > Could be as well. I suppose it is one of those thing nobody knows for > certain. It certainly showed on Morris, Wolseley, MG and some others. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Ed Woods schreef: > > I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg > > > > Ed Woods _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 17:42:41 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:20:20 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 one _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 17:42:51 2009 From: 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7@comcast.net> To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:22:58 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay Did any of you check out his eBay Store ?? VERY interesting ride at bottom of the page !!! Rover 10HP Weymann Fabric Bodied 'Riviera' Saloon <> Tinyurl for above which DOES work: http://tinyurl.com/ybluazp Ed _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 17:43:01 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:23:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay I believe that it is only the shift lever that is different. Someone will correct me. From: Awgertoo@aol.com I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 one _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 17:43:12 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:25:14 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay No, I'm pretty sure the one I have is the best. ;) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay > > BN1 & BN2 are very different tunnels and shifters. As well as > transmissions. > > BN2 is much better. Got both. > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M > '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M@gmail.com > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:07 PM, wrote: > > > And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like > > the BN2 one is it? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 17:46:41 2009 From: "Greg Lemon" To: , , Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:55:15 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Tedeuz, looks like you have the rear seal kit and the flew replacement oil line at the pump, two good mods, looks as though the block has been decked to insure a good seal for the head gasket, looks like a higher compression piston, good as well, has the head been checked for cracks? it often cracks. Did you think about lightening the flywheel the motor was used in a truck a the flywheel is a real boat anchor at 40 plus pounds, I had my local machine shop take quite a bit off, maybe 12 pounds or so, didn't cost much. Looks good, looks like you are doing the right things good luck, Greg Lemon ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild > Tadeuz-- > > I don't see anything that is NOT "correct" but sure see a lot of nice > looking stuff! The engine looks great. > > I have some questions: > > 1. What are you using for a front damper? > 2. What are you using for a flex line between the oil pump pick up and > the block? > 3. What are you usiing for an oil pump --source? > 4. Do you have any thoughts on proper clearance specs in the oil pump? > 5. Nice pistons--whose are those and do you have any guess on > compression ratio? > > Best--Michael Oritt > ------------------------------------------------------ > In a message dated 11/4/2009 2:55:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl writes: > > I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as glemon@neb.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 18:32:50 2009 From: "Guy R Day" To: "Oudesluys" , "Ed Woods" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:08:51 -0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] [SPAM] Re: MOWOG MOrris WOlesley Garages. It has been that for the past 60odd years ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: "Ed Woods" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Healeys] MOWOG > Could be as well. I suppose it is one of those thing nobody knows for > certain. It certainly showed on Morris, Wolseley, MG and some others. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Ed Woods schreef: >> I always thought it stood for Morris-Woolsley-Mg >> >> Ed Woods >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: >> 270.14.48/2479 - Release Date: 11/03/09 19:38:00 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as grday@btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 18:35:29 2009 From: "Greg Lemon" To: , Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:27:18 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Meant to mention and forgot, the oil pump strainer, these things often get mushed when the pan get mushed, looks like yours has been repaired, I would shake and pick at the strainer to make sure none of the welds or whatever method was used to repair is not likely to come off and score your pump and or bearings. If you decide you need it you can get new ones, not cheap for what they are, some don't fit very well or at all, interfereing with the pan, got one like that from MOSS USA a few years back don't know if they have remedied the matter, got a good one from the Nocks. Know you will likely wource partd from Europe, If you decide to go new make sure the supplier gets you a good one, my bad one had the bottom flange where screen meets metal turned down and interfearing with the pan, instead of turned up towards the block. Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 18:35:44 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: Awgertoo@aol.com, healeys@autox.team.net, glemon@neb.rr.com Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:27:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Hello there, Yes, I did invest few pounds into Denis Welch enterprises - I hope they spend it well. :-) To follow your questions: 1. I was not actually planning to use any front damper - is there such a need? I understood it's only necessary on the 3000.. 2. The oil flex line is from DW 3. The oil pump is new from DW as well 4. Since it's new, I hope it's proper.. Might it not be?? 5. The pistons are Omega pistons from DW. They sit 0.25mm (+-0.05mm) below deck. If my calculations are correct, I should be at 1:8.89 compression ratio. 6. The head is a DW fast road head with their studs, nuts, washers and head gasket. (I do wonder why the gasket is 10% of the head price..) 7. The cam is a DWR1 cam Machine work done: - block line boring - cylinder boring - head decked - connecting rods bored and checked for being straight - connecting rods balanced - crankshaft, flywheel, clutch balanced I did think about lightening the flywheel, but I was a bit afraid to do so.. I know it's incredibly heavy, but then the engine is a long stroke with crank supported only on 3 bearings - my machinist was slightly skeptical about it.. I can't really go back now, as the whole crank & flywheel & clutch are balanced. _____ From: Awgertoo@aol.com [mailto:Awgertoo@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:18 PM To: tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl; healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Tadeuz-- I don't see anything that is NOT "correct" but sure see a lot of nice looking stuff! The engine looks great. I have some questions: 1. What are you using for a front damper? 2. What are you using for a flex line between the oil pump pick up and the block? 3. What are you usiing for an oil pump --source? 4. Do you have any thoughts on proper clearance specs in the oil pump? 5. Nice pistons--whose are those and do you have any guess on compression ratio? Best--Michael Oritt ------------------------------------------------------ In a message dated 11/4/2009 2:55:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl writes: I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 19:18:08 2009 From: "E.A. Driver" To: Awgertoo@aol.com Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:07:42 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay Hi Michael You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North Americans is a bit screwy ;-) Regards Ed Saskatoon Awgertoo@aol.com wrote: > I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of > whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? > > Best--Michael Oritt > ----------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: > > And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 > one > _ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 19:23:25 2009 From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: Greg Lemon Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:22:41 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Tadek, The best bet for your BN2 is to use a BJ8 Flywheel which is much lighter than stock, plus no messing around with lightening. Doing this will also allow you to use the better diaphragm clutch from the same. I would do this with my BN1 but the three speed bell housing will foul on the BJ8 setup. Cheers, Curt On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Tedeuz, looks like you have the rear seal kit and the flew replacement oil > line at the pump, two good mods, looks as though the block has been decked > to insure a good seal for the head gasket, looks like a higher compression > piston, good as well, has the head been checked for cracks? it often > cracks. > > Did you think about lightening the flywheel the motor was used in a truck a > the flywheel is a real boat anchor at 40 plus pounds, I had my local machine > shop take quite a bit off, maybe 12 pounds or so, didn't cost much. > > Looks good, looks like you are doing the right things good luck, > > Greg Lemon > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild > > > Tadeuz-- >> >> I don't see anything that is NOT "correct" but sure see a lot of nice >> looking stuff! The engine looks great. >> >> I have some questions: >> >> 1. What are you using for a front damper? >> 2. What are you using for a flex line between the oil pump pick up and >> the block? >> 3. What are you usiing for an oil pump --source? >> 4. Do you have any thoughts on proper clearance specs in the oil pump? >> 5. Nice pistons--whose are those and do you have any guess on >> compression ratio? >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> In a message dated 11/4/2009 2:55:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl writes: >> >> I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as glemon@neb.rr.com >> >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 19:23:52 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: cnaarndt@gmail.com, glemon@neb.rr.com Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:33:41 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild I did what Curt suggests to my BN1 with the Smitty's bellhousing. The BJ8 clutch is light and has geat action. Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 8:23:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cnaarndt@gmail.com writes: The best bet for your BN2 is to use a BJ8 Flywheel which is much lighter than stock, plus no messing around with lightening. Doing this will also allow you to use the better diaphragm clutch from the same. I would do this with my BN1 but the three speed bell housing will foul on the BJ8 setup. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 20:15:54 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:54:13 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Tadek - Awesome, nicely done. Can't wait to see the H6 carbs on that motor :). It would be interesting to see what sort of power you will get out of that car. At 2.6 liters, with a little bit of intelligence getting it up to 150 hp seems possible. I was going to go that route with my BN1 but when I decided I wanted to keep it original with the three speed, I realized that uprating the motor on my car would be a waste of time. With your BN2 and the four speed box, this should be great. I know you've balanced the crank and flywheel, but I still think shaving about 7-10 kilos off the flywheel is probably a good idea. Your BN2 is quite light so it doesn't need all that weight. For my A90, however, it's different story! One small note - be sure to clean the overpaint off the surfaces where gaskets will mate to the block. If not, the gaskets, no matter how they are treated, will likely leak over time. Been driving my Jag Mk IX for the last few months. Lovely car, fast & THIRSTY! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 21:02:49 2009 From: "Quinn, Patrick" To: "'Awgertoo@aol.com'" , "jodyfkerr@gmail.com" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:03:02 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] G'day It's from the days of badge engineering. BMC built one car and depending on what badge or grille it could have been a Morris Elite, Wolseley 1500, Austin Lancer or Riley 1500. All had differing levels of trim, but same mechanicals. My memory tells me they had the same floor pan as the Morris Minor and therefore the same rear end. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Somewhere in Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Awgertoo@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 5 November 2009 5:51 AM To: jodyfkerr@gmail.com; coudesluijs@chello.nl Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] The rear axle housing on my Elva Courier is described as a "Riley" rear axle. It has the same dimensions as that of a Morris Minor, is about 3-4 inches narrower than that of a Spridget and of course the third member is that out of a Sprite/Metro, Austin A 35, etc. etc. I think the English auto industry invented the acronym. Best--Michael Oritt --------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/4/2009 1:37:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jodyfkerr@gmail.com writes: That's the part that really strikes me as odd about the whole thing. I'd start looking at the more offbeat cars like Riley's or Metropolitans. Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as patrick.quinn@det.nsw.edu.au http://www.team.net/archive ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 21:51:03 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 03:17:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay Isn't it a bit screwy for all? > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:07:42 -0600 > > Hi Michael > > You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North > Americans is a bit > screwy ;-) > > Regards > Ed > Saskatoon > > Awgertoo@aol.com wrote: > > I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of > > whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > ----------------------------------------------- > > > > In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: > > > > And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the BN2 > > one _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 21:53:01 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: sales@justbrits.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:35:52 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working I never understood why you would take taxes from hardworking Americans and then give it to a small handful of other Amercans to go and buy a new car? It was the most retarded government program I have heard of yet. By the way, the real purpose of the program had nothing to do with the environment. The purpose of the program was to artificially boost US GDP in 2Q, which then those figures were published a week ago, conveniently a week before the interim elections in NY, VA and NJ to help sway opinions that the "stimulus" package was working and theoretically boosted GDP in 2Q to a fantasy 3.5% growth rate, in theory showing that the Democrats were really making things better. Most of Wall street had connected the dots already and discounted the 2Q 3.5% GDP growth rate and tied it directly to the cash for clunkers, not the Stimulus. I guess the strategy didn't work very well, but I'm just furious that these jerks on the Hill think it's ok to use our tax money to try to sway elections and buy votes, oh but I guess I should know better... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sales at " Just Brits " wrote: > This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): > > Clunker program: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ > ap_on_bi_ge/us_cash_for_clunkers > > or > > *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw > > Ed _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 22:32:56 2009 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "E.A. Driver" , Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:32:37 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay "You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North Americans is a bit screwy ;-) Regards Ed Saskatoon" You are right, but I have to say I am certainly not the most dextorous guy in the world and the reverse pattern three speed on the BN1 box never really caused me any problems, it is admittedly an archaic gearbox with weak synchros and probably not overly strong period, but I always felt it was part of the unique charm of the car, and worked pretty well with the O/D and broad torque band of the motor. I did shop around until I found a good used stock shift ball which had not been worn so much that you couldn't paint the shift pattern back on it. I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the BN1 box. Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 23:24:14 2009 From: robert westcott <55healey@comcast.net> To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:10:47 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild My new strainer was almost an inch too deep with the new aluminum pan (It is thicker than the steel). I took the strainer apart and cut 3/4" off the bottom of the screen and spot welded it back together, I also needed to shorten the supply tube so the pan could fit without crushing the strainer. If you need pics send me a note. My old one was in shreds. Rob On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Meant to mention and forgot, the oil pump strainer, these things > often get mushed when the pan get mushed, looks like yours has been > repaired, I would shake and pick at the strainer to make sure none > of the welds or whatever method was used to repair is not likely to > come off and score your pump and or bearings. > > If you decide you need it you can get new ones, not cheap for what > they are, some don't fit very well or at all, interfereing with the > pan, got one like that from MOSS USA a few years back don't know if > they have remedied the matter, got a good one from the Nocks. Know > you will likely wource partd from Europe, If you decide to go new > make sure the supplier gets you a good one, my bad one had the > bottom flange where screen meets metal turned down and interfearing > with the pan, instead of turned up towards the block. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 23:25:22 2009 From: "Rich C" To: , , Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:18:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay The gearbox and o/d on a BN1 is the same for right or left hand drive applications. Only the gear lever is different. The RH drive lever is about 3" longer and cants over to the right more. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay >I always thought that the transmission on a BN1 was the same regardless of > whether the car was RHD or LHD. Am I wrong? > > Best--Michael Oritt > ----------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 11/4/2009 6:09:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: > > And, so that is what a BN1 RHD shifter looks like!! Not much like the > BN2 > one > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler@quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 4 23:25:35 2009 From: Ray Juncal To: List Healey Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:18:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] What thread?? Hey guys, you know those little shallow angle flat head screws that hold the corner brackets of a 100 windshield frame? What thread are they? I want to chase the thread in the bracket and the screws are too short to get a read on a thread gauge. I think they may be "BA #4" 38.5 tpi . The 38 tpi gauge looks close and the "D" is .137". Thanks Ray Juncal _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 00:20:19 2009 From: Bob To: Greg Lemon , Healey List Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:12:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay For fun try jumping between some of the old and new Brit motorcycles, right or left foot shift and is 1st gear up or down? To this day and on my '06 Triumph I still, especially in an unexpected situation, have gotten it wrong and try to down shift with the right foot and have locked the rear wheel brake. I originally learned ( 1947 Ariel ) and for many years rode right foot shifters and my learned response is wrong! Bob 55BN1 60 Matchless 65 Royal Enfield 79 Triumph 06 Triumph Greg Lemon wrote: > > I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back > and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list > the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to > accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the > BN1 box. > > Greg Lemon > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 01:47:02 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: 'Alan Seigrist' , Awgertoo@aol.com, Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:30:45 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Alan, I would probably more expect a region of 130hp, but we will see.. I just hope I have not messed up the torque, as I love it on the Healey. The H6 carbs are definitely missing :-) They should be here in early December - many thanks Alan, I hope you see they will be at good use.. I was thinking of lightening the flywheel, but I had no precise indications where to machine it. The idea of using a BJ8 flywheel is an interesting one - does anyone have a spare one in US?.. Many thanks for all kind words - I will have some more pictures when the head and rest comes on. Best, Tadek _____ From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:54 AM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Cc: Awgertoo@aol.com; healeys@autox.team.net; glemon@neb.rr.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Tadek - Awesome, nicely done. Can't wait to see the H6 carbs on that motor :). It would be interesting to see what sort of power you will get out of that car. At 2.6 liters, with a little bit of intelligence getting it up to 150 hp seems possible. I was going to go that route with my BN1 but when I decided I wanted to keep it original with the three speed, I realized that uprating the motor on my car would be a waste of time. With your BN2 and the four speed box, this should be great. I know you've balanced the crank and flywheel, but I still think shaving about 7-10 kilos off the flywheel is probably a good idea. Your BN2 is quite light so it doesn't need all that weight. For my A90, however, it's different story! One small note - be sure to clean the overpaint off the surfaces where gaskets will mate to the block. If not, the gaskets, no matter how they are treated, will likely leak over time. Been driving my Jag Mk IX for the last few months. Lovely car, fast & THIRSTY! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 01:47:28 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:34:06 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 I just thought to start a new thread here - what are the positive and negative effects of lightening the flywheel on a BN2? Positive: - reves up quicker - lighter car Negative: - more strain on the 3 loong stroke bearing engine - torque can be messed up? Anyone could comment here?? Best, tadek _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 02:36:51 2009 From: John Harper To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:36:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Tadek Just one comment. Did you check that the sump gasket had holes in it where these should line up with those in the block. In particular the one just outboard of the oil strainer return pipe. There were in the past gaskets around without this hole and this might cause the oil pressure relief valve not open correctly. A higher than comfortable oil pressure can then happen with possible damage to the oil pump. I have seen one example of excessive oil pressure lead to a sheared oil pump drive. Regards > > >I am rebuilding my 100 engine, and thought I would share some pictures with >you - I am looking for any comments what's not correct.. > -- John Harper _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 03:17:03 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:03:01 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Tadek - At 45 lbs, there is no downside to lightening the flywheel. You need that mass if you a driving a truck or lorry, but for the little half aluminum 100, there is no need for all that mass. It won't affect your torque hardly at all, and your revs will be much punchier. In addition you'll have less rotating mass which will make your car more stable and handle much better through the turns and panic stops. There is almost no downside. If you are putting a DW head on your 100, you should put a lighter flywheel. I like the idea of the BJ8 clutch too... good idea. Wish I could put it on my BN1. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 03:17:38 2009 From: Oudesluys To: sales@justbrits.com Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:34:11 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working It is just what could have been expected. I am sure it is more or less the same story in EU. It is just the financial gain, not the environment, that people are interrested in. What does help is to raise the price of fuel substantially and/or attack the manufacturers with proper legislation setting adequate milage figures and adapt those regularly. Both have had some effect over here, but it could have been better. Normal cars doing around 45mls/US gallon (petrol) on average are fairly common, (Ctroen C1, Toyota Aygo/Yaris, Peugeot 107, Honda Civic, Renault Megane,). Diesel powered cars can do around 70mls/USgallon on average and some can reach 90mls/US gallon, (VW Lupo, Audi A2, Peugeot 307, Renault Clio). These are real figures supplied by consumers, not the industry.These figures are from cars from 2 up to 10 years old. Kees Oudesluijs NL Sales at " Just Brits " schreef: > This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): > > Clunker program: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ > ap_on_bi_ge/us_cash_for_clunkers > > or > > *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw > > Ed > * > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 04:01:57 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Alan Seigrist Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:38:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Alan, What else would you expect from politicians, ANY politicians. The most unreliable sort of our species. Kees Oudesluijs NL Alan Seigrist schreef: > I never understood why you would take taxes from hardworking Americans and > then give it to a small handful of other Amercans to go and buy a new car? > It was the most retarded government program I have heard of yet. By the > way, the real purpose of the program had nothing to do with the > environment. > > The purpose of the program was to artificially boost US GDP in 2Q, which > then those figures were published a week ago, conveniently a week before the > interim elections in NY, VA and NJ to help sway opinions that the "stimulus" > package was working and theoretically boosted GDP in 2Q to a fantasy 3.5% > growth rate, in theory showing that the Democrats were really making things > better. Most of Wall street had connected the dots already and discounted > the 2Q 3.5% GDP growth rate and tied it directly to the cash for clunkers, > not the Stimulus. > > I guess the strategy didn't work very well, but I'm just furious that these > jerks on the Hill think it's ok to use our tax money to try to sway > elections and buy votes, oh but I guess I should know better... > > Alan _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 05:29:43 2009 From: "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" To: "'Jody Kerr'" , "'Reinhart Rosner \(aon\)'" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:04:49 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers G'day Jody With your connection with Australia you would know it's not the flying kangaroos that you have to worry about, but be very careful of the bears as they drop from the trees. Many people have resorted to wearing head protection, especially when walking under magpie nests. It's when the koalas jump on the backs of magpies and swoop at passersby, that really is a worry. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn The large island west of New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jody Kerr Sent: Thursday, 5 November 2009 2:17 AM To: Reinhart Rosner (aon) Cc: Kent McLean; healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers "Agatha and I are so much interested in Australia. It must be so pretty will all the dear little kangaroos flying about. Agatha has found it on the map. What a curious shape it is! Just like a large packing case." --every time I hear a silly conversation about Australia that pops into my head. Jody -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as p_cquinn@tpg.com.au http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 05:30:05 2009 From: "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" To: , , "'Healeys'" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:12:44 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Car Storage G'day A few years back we had a mouse plague in certain parts of Australia. Have a look at: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/447420/worlds_worst_mouse_plague/ Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Living on a South Pacific jewel. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 07:00:21 2009 From: "John Sims" To: "'Alan Seigrist'" , Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:09:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but statisticians do -- or something like that. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:36 PM To: sales@justbrits.com Cc: 4 - Spridgets; 4 - Jensen-Cars; 4 - Healeys; 4 - MG List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working I never understood why you would take taxes from hardworking Americans and then give it to a small handful of other Amercans to go and buy a new car? It was the most retarded government program I have heard of yet. By the way, the real purpose of the program had nothing to do with the environment. The purpose of the program was to artificially boost US GDP in 2Q, which then those figures were published a week ago, conveniently a week before the interim elections in NY, VA and NJ to help sway opinions that the "stimulus" package was working and theoretically boosted GDP in 2Q to a fantasy 3.5% growth rate, in theory showing that the Democrats were really making things better. Most of Wall street had connected the dots already and discounted the 2Q 3.5% GDP growth rate and tied it directly to the cash for clunkers, not the Stimulus. I guess the strategy didn't work very well, but I'm just furious that these jerks on the Hill think it's ok to use our tax money to try to sway elections and buy votes, oh but I guess I should know better... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sales at " Just Brits " wrote: > This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): > > Clunker program: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ > ap_on_bi_ge/us_cash_for_clunkers > > or > > *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw > > Ed Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6@verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 08:29:55 2009 From: Bob To: John Sims Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:21:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Wasn't the quote, " Statistics don't lie but politicians always do.". Bob Also in corruption capital, NJ John Sims wrote: > And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 > jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number > is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 08:31:07 2009 From: "Michael Couch" To: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:39:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Carpet Set Need help on a bonehead move . . . . Just found out that I ordered the wrong BN2 red carpet kit last year during a Moss sale. I ordered the BN1 set by mistake and they won't take the return a year later. I thought I'd offer it to anyone on the list who might need it before I go the eBay route. Call or email if you're interested. Big discount. 412-952-9036, Michael@mcassociatesinc.com Don't tell my wife. Mike Couch Pittsburgh BN2 AN2 AN7 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 09:18:00 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:48:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay On my first drive in a RHD car ... driving my purchase to the garage for the safety inspection ... I got cut off by a cab. I hadn't driven a manual shift in about 10 years but the instinctual response was perfect. Found the brake and clutch pedal without thinking and rammed my right hand into the door looking for the shifter. Okay ... 2 out of 3 was perfect. :) Never a problem after that though. Robert D. '55 BN1 '65 RHD Sprite '67 RHD Midget > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:12:15 -0500 > > For fun try jumping between some of the old and new Brit motorcycles, > right or left foot shift and is 1st gear up or down? > > To this day and on my '06 Triumph I still, especially in an unexpected > situation, have gotten it wrong and try to down shift with the right > foot and have locked the rear wheel brake. I originally learned ( > 1947 Ariel ) and for many years rode right foot shifters and my > learned response is wrong! > > Bob > > 55BN1 > 60 Matchless > 65 Royal Enfield > 79 Triumph > 06 Triumph > > Greg Lemon wrote: > > > > I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back > > and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list > > the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to > > accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the > > BN1 box. > > > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 09:18:43 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: p_cquinn@tpg.com.au, jodyfkerr@gmail.com, aon.912808691@aon.at Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:49:36 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers In a message dated 11/5/2009 7:29:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, p_cquinn@tpg.com.au writes: Patrick Quinn The large island west of New Zealand I hear that the Kiwi's have three names for these islands: 1. North Island 2. South Island 3. Mouth Island Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 09:19:10 2009 From: Oudesluys To: John Sims Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:56:22 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Well, they may not lie but can have different interpretations to suit all parties. The conclusion is the same though, be very wary of them and do not believe them first hand. Do your own researches first. Kees Oudesluijs NL John Sims schreef: > And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 > jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number > is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 09:19:25 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:57:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working But ... who gets the money from the increased price of fuel? Why not "just" legislate the "adequate mileage"? > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:34:11 +0100 > > It is just what could have been expected. I am sure it is more or less > the same story in EU. It is just the financial gain, not the > environment, that people are interrested in. What does help is to raise > the price of fuel substantially and/or attack the manufacturers with > proper legislation setting adequate milage figures and adapt those > regularly. Both have had some effect over here, but it could have been > better. > ... > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > > Sales at " Just Brits " schreef: > > This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): > > > > Clunker program: > > > > *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw > > > > Ed _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 09:20:29 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:13:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working I'm fairly ignorant on these issues, but I thought the idea was to get money moving when people were being cautious, as well as saving jobs. Every time a dollar moves ... ( I'm sure you'll be shocked to hear this ) ... it's taxed. So, someone buys a car, and the gov't gets sales tax, the car salesman and dealership earn money and pay income tax, the car gets plated, insurance gets upgraded, the insurance company pays more income tax, the car salesman spends his extra money and pays sales tax and the person who sold him that "something" pays more income tax and spends his extra money ... The new car owner will probably spend some more money on his new "investment" for loving care that he wasn't providing for on his clunker ... new floor mats, wax, etc. He probably signed on for scheduled dealer maintenance for a while too, so he pays sales tax and the dealer makes more money and pays tax ... I think that the idea was to get the dollars moving. The taxpayer probably didn't really pay anything, though they probably did front the money. Robert D. > > I never understood why you would take taxes from hardworking Americans and > > then give it to a small handful of other Amercans to go and buy a new car? ... > > > > Alan _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 09:20:41 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:26:14 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working There are some statistics quotes here: http://www.quotegarden.com/statistics.html Some are kinda funny, like this one: Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. ~Aaron Levenstein > And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 > jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number > is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 10:04:39 2009 From: I Erbs To: healey help Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:05:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] questions about restoration process Not sure this made it to the list. If it did, I guess I see where I rate. Dryer sheets have generated more bandwith than my request. At least I'm not lower than dirt, just lower than mice droppings :0 cheers. Any help would be great Hello all, After only 35 years I am about to embark on getting the rust repaired on my car. The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. he has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. I sent him a link to kilmartin's exploded view of chassis and body panel sto acquaint him with the car. he has seen it many times... So my questions... We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the engine in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they be removed? I will check the archives for info on engine paint info, but if someone wanted to chime in I'd be Ok with that :) What else do I need to look out for? Also, I want to replace my BT7 clutch assembly with a BJ series, what do I need? I have a lightened flywheel on my car now. I believe I need to replace it, or does someone have a pattern for re-drilling it to accept the BJ parts? There a couple of NOS front fenders on EBAY for 1K delivered. Is it beter to repair known fitting parts or just go with new? lastly, Bought Gary and Rogers restoration book, found a copy fro $40.00 delivered. My friend is a great body guy, just never worked on a Healey before.. I live in Portland, Oregon, so If anyone wants to stop by and lend a hand, I'll buy the beer and a meal. Although the beer will have to wait until after we leave school grounds.... I am looking for a nice steetable car, not a show car. I only paid $500.00 for the car, so its hard to recalibrate my thinking about how much these toys are worth...I just want to drive a nice looking car to match how well it runs. -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 10:44:02 2009 From: Bob Spidell To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:27:23 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 10:44:36 2009 From: I Erbs To: healey help Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:50:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] misc rubber stuff been looking at Norm Nock's catalog, and Moss Motor's site, but could not locate a bag of rubber bits such as, windscreen grommets and bottom rubber, firewall grommets, dash ends where it meet the doors, the rubber under the boot lock handle, light rubbers, etc. Is there an all inclusive kit, or must I look for each type of kit. I have seen a firewall kit, but again, not a whole car. 59 BT7 center shift. -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 10:44:46 2009 From: Oudesluys To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:53:07 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working The goverment will cash the surplus (taxes) on the fuel to fund, you may hope, health care and other usefull services to the public whom they supposedly serve. Kees Oudesluijs NL robertduquette@sympatico.ca schreef: > But ... who gets the money from the increased price of fuel? Why not "just" > legislate the "adequate mileage"? > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:34:11 +0100 >> >> It is just what could have been expected. I am sure it is more or less >> the same story in EU. It is just the financial gain, not the >> environment, that people are interrested in. What does help is to raise >> the price of fuel substantially and/or attack the manufacturers with >> proper legislation setting adequate milage figures and adapt those >> regularly. Both have had some effect over here, but it could have been >> better. >> >> > ... > > >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL >> >> >> >> Sales at " Just Brits " schreef: >> >>> This is just UNREAL (car related but non LBC): >>> >>> Clunker program: >>> >>> *http://tinyurl.com/yljgbgw >>> >>> Ed >>> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 10:45:00 2009 From: ATIGHTPROD@aol.com To: glemon@neb.rr.com, edriver@sasktel.net, Awgertoo@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:55:51 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay I also have a very early BN1, with the stock 3 speed and from the first time I drove it, it felt comfortable and not at all daunting. Not sure why, but it never presented a problem either physically or mentally. It just felt "right" and natural. It's just a little tight in the legroom department, but I agree that it really adds to the charm of my car. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 11/4/2009 9:33:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, glemon@neb.rr.com writes: "You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North Americans is a bit screwy ;-) Regards Ed Saskatoon" You are right, but I have to say I am certainly not the most dextorous guy in the world and the reverse pattern three speed on the BN1 box never really caused me any problems, it is admittedly an archaic gearbox with weak synchros and probably not overly strong period, but I always felt it was part of the unique charm of the car, and worked pretty well with the O/D and broad torque band of the motor. I did shop around until I found a good used stock shift ball which had not been worn so much that you couldn't paint the shift pattern back on it. I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the BN1 box. Greg Lemon Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as atightprod@aol.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 11:27:49 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:09:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Weren't you the guy who said this a few minutes ago? :) " What else would you expect from politicians, ANY politicians. The most unreliable sort of our species. " I don't like SIN taxes. I'm not of the attitude that I should be punished financially and be allowed to do something that's "bad". It's either wrong ... so ban it or make it criminal, or it's not wrong, so they should get their hand out of my pocket. What are they saying? "It's bad to burn fuel, but to ease your conscience, give us more money!" That just doesn't work for me! > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:53:07 +0100 > > The goverment will cash the surplus (taxes) on the fuel to fund, you may > hope, health care and other usefull services to the public whom they > supposedly serve. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 11:29:06 2009 From: "E.A. Driver" To: ATIGHTPROD@aol.com Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:17:44 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 11:29:23 2009 From: ATIGHTPROD@aol.com To: edriver@sasktel.net Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:23:11 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 55 hundred was on ebay Ed, No, your friends were totally correct, it is a bit "screwy" and why it feels so comfortable is a mystery to me, but from day one, it did. Steven In a message dated 11/5/2009 9:18:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, edriver@sasktel.net writes: Hi Steven My comment was a quote of friends who tried my BN1 I have never had a problem. Kind regards Ed Saskatoon _ATIGHTPROD@aol.com_ (mailto:ATIGHTPROD@aol.com) wrote: I also have a very early BN1, with the stock 3 speed and from the first time I drove it, it felt comfortable and not at all daunting. Not sure why, but it never presented a problem either physically or mentally. It just felt "right" and natural. It's just a little tight in the legroom department, but I agree that it really adds to the charm of my car. Steven Kingsbury BN1 #598 In a message dated 11/4/2009 9:33:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _glemon@neb.rr.com_ (mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com) writes: "You are correct. The only thing for most the shift pattern for North Americans is a bit screwy ;-) Regards Ed Saskatoon" You are right, but I have to say I am certainly not the most dextorous guy in the world and the reverse pattern three speed on the BN1 box never really caused me any problems, it is admittedly an archaic gearbox with weak synchros and probably not overly strong period, but I always felt it was part of the unique charm of the car, and worked pretty well with the O/D and broad torque band of the motor. I did shop around until I found a good used stock shift ball which had not been worn so much that you couldn't paint the shift pattern back on it. I even drove a 5 speed modern car as my daily driver and switched back and forth no problems. As was mentioned a short time ago on the list the RHD version has the same box, but does have a funky shift lever to accomodate the severe left hand mount of the remote mechanism on the BN1 box. Greg Lemon _Healeys@autox.team.net_ (mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net) _http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys_ (http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys) You are subscribed as _atightprod@aol.com_ (mailto:atightprod@aol.com) _http://www.team.net/archive_ (http://www.team.net/archive) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 11:31:05 2009 From: "Jon Buhler" To: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:31:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but I have just experienced the problem. Under acceleration, the engine bucks and coughs but runs fine once up to speed. Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition system, engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to specs. Sure would appreciate your thoughts. Jon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 11:31:16 2009 From: "Simon Lachlan" To: , "'Healeys'" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:36:18 -0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working It's called the "Multiplier Effect" or at least it was many years ago when I studied economics. It works on both sides of the economy....I spend 10, say, pounds at Joe's Emporium which enables Joe to spend, say, eight ponds at Fred's which enables Fred to spend, say, seven at..... It's supposed to work like that. The UK's Bank of England has just announced another round of "Quantative Easing" (printing money) which is supposedly a stimulus to liquidity. Perhaps the idea is that, if I spend a billion pounds at Joe's Emporium, Joe can.......but on a population wide basis. Mind you, it's my money they're printing and diluting... (I think most of my first year's studies came out of a book by a guy called Samuelson which probably dates me somewhat!) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette@sympatico.ca Sent: 05 November 2009 15:13 To: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working I'm fairly ignorant on these issues, but I thought the idea was to get money moving when people were being cautious, as well as saving jobs. Every time a dollar moves ... ( I'm sure you'll be shocked to hear this ) ... it's taxed. So, someone buys a car, and the gov't gets sales tax, the car salesman and dealership earn money and pay income tax, the car gets plated, insurance gets upgraded, the insurance company pays more income tax, the car salesman spends his extra money and pays sales tax and the person who sold him that "something" pays more income tax and spends his extra money ... The new car owner will probably spend some more money on his new "investment" for loving care that he wasn't providing for on his clunker ... new floor mats, wax, etc. He probably signed on for scheduled dealer maintenance for a while too, so he pays sales tax and the dealer makes more money and pays tax ... I think that the idea was to get the dollars moving. The taxpayer probably didn't really pay anything, though they probably did front the money. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 12:54:40 2009 From: Pieter and Linda To: buhler@memphisassociates.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:37:35 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems Faulty or leaking vacuum advance? Pieter On 05/11/2009, at 6:31 PM, Jon Buhler wrote: > Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but I have just > experienced > the problem. Under acceleration, the engine bucks and coughs but > runs fine > once up to speed. > Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition system, > engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to specs. Sure would > appreciate > your thoughts. > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as pieters@pt.lu > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 12:55:09 2009 From: I Erbs To: healey help Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:40:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 center shift carpet kit Hello, I too confess bought the wrong carpet kit fro my car. It is for a center shift and i have a side shifter. never thought to ask before I bought it... It was a slightly used kit. Paid 100.00 plus shipping, will resell for the 100.00 if anyone want sit. you have to pay fro shipping. will send photos. black carpet -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 13:07:07 2009 From: Oudesluys To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:03:53 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working, no car content That is why you may hope!!! It is not bad to burn fuel but one should use our resources as sparingly as possible, decrease production, increase prices and damn the economy. Leave something for the rest of mankind, incl. our children. Kees Oudesluijs robertduquette@sympatico.ca schreef: > Weren't you the guy who said this a few minutes ago? > " > > What else would you expect from politicians, ANY politicians. > The most unreliable sort of our species. > > " > I don't like SIN taxes. I'm not of the attitude that I should be punished > financially and be allowed to do something that's "bad". It's either wrong > ... so ban it or make it criminal, or it's not wrong, so they should get their > hand out of my pocket. What are they saying? "It's bad to burn fuel, but to > ease your conscience, give us more money!" That just doesn't work for me! > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:53:07 +0100 >> >> The goverment will cash the surplus (taxes) on the fuel to fund, you may >> hope, health care and other usefull services to the public whom they >> supposedly serve. >> Kees Oudesluijs _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 13:34:25 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:38:46 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Engine rebuild Just added some more pictures with the head and water pump... http://picasaweb.google.com/Volvo1800S/HealeyEngine# Also, the incredible work my body shop did to my oil pan... Tadek _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 13:35:12 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: 'Alan Seigrist' Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:46:29 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Well, Is there anyone than that can tell me precisely where to shave it?.. I assume it might be easier than finding a BJ8 wheel, especially that it might not quite fit the mechanical clutch.. BTW, what's the advantage of the BJ8 clutch? Tadek _____ From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:03 AM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Tadek - At 45 lbs, there is no downside to lightening the flywheel. You need that mass if you a driving a truck or lorry, but for the little half aluminum 100, there is no need for all that mass. It won't affect your torque hardly at all, and your revs will be much punchier. In addition you'll have less rotating mass which will make your car more stable and handle much better through the turns and panic stops. There is almost no downside. If you are putting a DW head on your 100, you should put a lighter flywheel. I like the idea of the BJ8 clutch too... good idea. Wish I could put it on my BN1. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 13:35:25 2009 From: Bob Spidell To: buhler@memphisassociates.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems Sounds like fuel delivery (acceleration requires more fuel than steady cruise). bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Buhler" To: healeys@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2009 9:31:58 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but I have just experienced the problem. Under acceleration, the engine bucks and coughs but runs fine once up to speed. Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition system, engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to specs. Sure would appreciate your thoughts. Jon _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 13:55:35 2009 From: S and T Miller To: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:10:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] E bay Does anyone know if you can block certain sellers on e-bay when you do a search? There are about 5000 mufflers, ant., car covers, etc. listed by car parts wholesale when you search Austin Healey. Very annoying! The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 13:56:14 2009 From: Jack Feldman To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:21:22 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips are moving. I thought the expression was "lies, damn lies, and statistics. Jack _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 13:56:26 2009 From: Jaap Aeckerlin To: I Erbs , Healey forum Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:22:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] questions about restoration process I can explain why you did not receive any answer to your questions: you asked too many questions in one message, and moreover the answers on most questions will be rather lengthy. Let me try to put it short: If your friend has never worked on a Healey before I am afraid he will be in for a large number of very unpleasant surprises. I worked on my car together with a professional restorer, me doing the stupid and simple work and he doing the welding and grinding and even for him, with over 20 years experience and a lot of Healeys that passed through his hands, it was a difficult job. Have a look at the pictures I made during the work at http://picasaweb.google.nl/j.aeckerlin and you may understand that bodywork on a Healey is a nightmare. Adjust the doors with the engine + tranny in the car or you won't get the seams right. (On my car i had a brand new frame of heavier gauge steel than normal, so we did it with the engine out). When replacing the rocker panels either hang the doors (when they are still ok) first and align the rocker panel with the door. If you have to replace the door's bottom part fit the rocker panel first and make the door to suit. If you paid 500 bucks for your car I think you will end up with quite some more parts to renew than you think! Nevertheless: Good luck! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/5 I Erbs Not sure this made it to the list. If it did, I guess I see where I rate. > > Any help would be great > > The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. he > has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. . > We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine > compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the engine > in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and > possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should > the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they > be > removed? > > My friend is a great body guy, just never worked on a Healey before.. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 13:56:42 2009 From: Jaap Aeckerlin To: John Sims , Healey forum Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:27:58 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working John, "There are lies, bloody lies, and statistics" is what we say over here. Regards, Jack Aeckerlin 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/5 John Sims > What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > John Sims, BN6 > > > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 14:53:24 2009 From: "Johnsen, Bernard F (AS)" To: "Bob Spidell" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:04:20 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems Sounds like fuel delivery (acceleration requires more fuel than steady cruise). I don't think it is a fuel delivery to the carburetor problem. The float bowls take care of immediate fuel needs. A weak fuel pump or clogged fuel filter would evidence themselves by the car being able to accelerate to a certain speed (by consuming fuel already in the float bowls) but not being able to maintain that speed (because fuel was being consumed faster than the float bowls could refill). On the other hand, it could be lack of sufficient fuel delivery between the carbs and the combustion chambers. - Bernie Johnsen 1967 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 14:53:47 2009 From: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" To: S and T Miller Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:09:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay What if a muffler seller is also selling a whole car? What you want to do is use the "advanced search" options to list terms that you don't want to see. Make sure you only search titles and not descriptions. Wilko San Diego On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:10 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > Does anyone know if you can block certain sellers on e-bay when you > do a > search? There are about 5000 mufflers, ant., car covers, etc. > listed by car > parts wholesale when you search Austin Healey. Very annoying! _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 14:53:57 2009 From: Oudesluys To: S and T Miller Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:10:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Go to the advanced search option and make your choices. Kees Oudesluijs NL S and T Miller schreef: > Does anyone know if you can block certain sellers on e-bay when you do a > search? There are about 5000 mufflers, ant., car covers, etc. listed by car > parts wholesale when you search Austin Healey. Very annoying! > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M > FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.50/2481 - Release Date: 11/04/09 19:51:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 15:28:58 2009 From: Bob Spidell To: "Bernard F Johnsen (AS)" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems re: "The float bowls take care of immediate fuel needs" Huh? Are you saying everything will be fine until the float bowls empty out? Carburetors--excepting the pressure type--require a constant fuel level in the float bowls (it's not like flushing a toilet ;). Remember, the level of the fuel in the jet is the same as the level in the float bowl. If the float bowl level is being reduced faster than than it can be replenished because of, say, a fuel delivery issue, you will be effectively running with an incorrect mixture until the float bowls catch up. I'm not sure which way the mixture will go, but since you'd be lowering the fuel level it would probably be equivalent to raising the vacuum piston, which produces a momentarily lean mixture (the 'traditional' way to test mixture on an SU carb). A lean mixture on acceleration would cause sputtering and coughing, which is why carburetors have a) accelerator pumps (constant venturi carbs) or b) vacuum piston damping fluid and springs (SU carbs). This is why getting the float levels set correctly is critical on any (non-pressure) carburetor, and why needle (or ball) valve operation is also critical. The proper operation of any carburetor is all about having a correct, constant fuel level in the float bowl(s) and all the other parts properly adjusted with respect to that level. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Sounds like fuel delivery (acceleration requires more fuel than steady cruise). I don't think it is a fuel delivery to the carburetor problem. The float bowls take care of immediate fuel needs. A weak fuel pump or clogged fuel filter would evidence themselves by the car being able to accelerate to a certain speed (by consuming fuel already in the float bowls) but not being able to maintain that speed (because fuel was being consumed faster than the float bowls could refill). On the other hand, it could be lack of sufficient fuel delivery between the carbs and the combustion chambers. - Bernie Johnsen 1967 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 15:29:28 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: qualitas.jack@gmail.com, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:29:51 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Can we move back to Healey stuff? Every so often we get side-tracked on political/economic issues (which we have agreed are not worth discussing) and I find them to be very tedious after a while. Enough please? Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 15:29:39 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl, healey.nut@gmail.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:30:58 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 In a message dated 11/5/2009 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl writes: BTW, what's the advantage of the BJ8 clutch? It is a diaphragm clutch versus spring clutch and has a lighter action. Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 15:29:51 2009 From: "Carr&Edwards" To: "Healey forum" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:33:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Attributed, accurately or otherwise, to both Benjamin Disraeli (19th century British prime minister) and Mark Twain (need I identify him?) -- "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics." Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaap Aeckerlin" To: "John Sims" ; "Healey forum" Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working > John, > "There are lies, bloody lies, and statistics" is what we say over here. > Regards, > Jack Aeckerlin > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > 2009/11/5 John Sims > > >> What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but >> statisticians do -- or something like that. >> >> John Sims, BN6 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 15:31:02 2009 From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" To: "Healey Mail List" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:34:57 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is part of a phrase attributed to the 19th Century British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, among others, and later popularized in the United States by, among others, Mark Twain: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." (Wikipedia) (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 15:55:46 2009 From: I Erbs To: Jaap Aeckerlin Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:00:43 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] questions about restoration process Thanks, just really looking for things to think about and solicit comments on whatever folks felt like chiming in on. 500.00 car 35 years ago bought a lot. The mechanicals have been completed, rebuilt engine/tranny/front suspension, rear springs/all shocks/wire harness/gauges/started/generator. new gas tank, rebuilt trafficator.restored front seats. have carpet kit. So it needs the typical rust repair bottom edge of all for fenders, some rust behind the fenders on the mounting bits of the frame. paint strip, prep and reshoot. rest of the interior and the top and bottom chrome of the grill. It's always an adventure. if it starts to go south, I can always get it fixed...... Thanks for the comments... Ira On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Jaap Aeckerlin wrote: > I can explain why you did not receive any answer to your questions: you > asked too many questions in one message, and moreover the answers on most > questions will be rather lengthy. Let me try to put it short: > If your friend has never worked on a Healey before I am afraid he will be > in for a large number of very unpleasant surprises. I worked on my car > together with a professional restorer, me doing the stupid and simple work > and he doing the welding and grinding and even for him, with over 20 years > experience and a lot of Healeys that passed through his hands, it was a > difficult job. Have a look at the pictures I made during the work at > http://picasaweb.google.nl/j.aeckerlin and you may understand that > bodywork on a Healey is a nightmare. > Adjust the doors with the engine + tranny in the car or you won't get the > seams right. (On my car i had a brand new frame of heavier gauge steel than > normal, so we did it with the engine out). > When replacing the rocker panels either hang the doors (when they are still > ok) first and align the rocker panel with the door. If you have to replace > the door's bottom part fit the rocker panel first and make the door to suit. > If you paid 500 bucks for your car I think you will end up with quite some > more parts to renew than you think! > Nevertheless: Good luck! > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > 2009/11/5 I Erbs > > Not sure this made it to the list. If it did, I guess I see where I rate. >> >> Any help would be great >> >> The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. >> he >> has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. >> > . > >> We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine >> compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the >> engine >> in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and >> possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should >> the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they >> be >> removed? >> >> My friend is a great body guy, just never worked on a Healey before.. >> > > -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 15:56:14 2009 From: I Erbs To: Jaap Aeckerlin Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:04:27 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] questions about restoration process As I see from your photos, your car is far worse off than mine. As stated previously I,only need typical stuff repaired, you had a total frame up resto done. yes I agree, expert hand sonly on such a job. BTW I did work restoring healeys when I was in College. granted that was over 30 years ago... I On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Jaap Aeckerlin wrote: > I can explain why you did not receive any answer to your questions: you > asked too many questions in one message, and moreover the answers on most > questions will be rather lengthy. Let me try to put it short: > If your friend has never worked on a Healey before I am afraid he will be > in for a large number of very unpleasant surprises. I worked on my car > together with a professional restorer, me doing the stupid and simple work > and he doing the welding and grinding and even for him, with over 20 years > experience and a lot of Healeys that passed through his hands, it was a > difficult job. Have a look at the pictures I made during the work at > http://picasaweb.google.nl/j.aeckerlin and you may understand that > bodywork on a Healey is a nightmare. > Adjust the doors with the engine + tranny in the car or you won't get the > seams right. (On my car i had a brand new frame of heavier gauge steel than > normal, so we did it with the engine out). > When replacing the rocker panels either hang the doors (when they are still > ok) first and align the rocker panel with the door. If you have to replace > the door's bottom part fit the rocker panel first and make the door to suit. > If you paid 500 bucks for your car I think you will end up with quite some > more parts to renew than you think! > Nevertheless: Good luck! > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 > > 2009/11/5 I Erbs > > Not sure this made it to the list. If it did, I guess I see where I rate. >> >> Any help would be great >> >> The auto shop teacher at school has proposed letting him do the repairs. >> he >> has extensive experience with roadsters and race cars. >> > . > >> We are going to pull the engine/tranny to detail them and the engine >> compartment. is it better to do the fenders and inner wings with the >> engine >> in or out? I also need to repair/replace the door striker panels and >> possibly a rocker panel plus whatever we find when we get into it. Should >> the fender bottoms and rear dog legs be repairs on the car or should they >> be >> removed? >> >> My friend is a great body guy, just never worked on a Healey before.. >> > > -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 16:24:23 2009 From: "Mr. Bill" To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:35:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Tadek, I bought mine from Bill Bolton in Cresswell, OR. tricarb@aol.com You can buy them either outright or exchange. It weighs 23 lbs. and has run fine for 30,000+ miles. The lightness causes no problem with the idle. I run it with the 3-speed and the mechanical clutch. Bill '53 Red Car ;-) Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Well, > > > > Is there anyone than that can tell me precisely where to shave it?.. I > assume it might be easier than finding a BJ8 wheel, especially that it might > not quite fit the mechanical clutch.. > > > > BTW, what's the advantage of the BJ8 clutch? > > > > Tadek > > > > _____ > > From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz > Cc: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 > > > > Tadek - > > At 45 lbs, there is no downside to lightening the flywheel. > > You need that mass if you a driving a truck or lorry, but for the little > half aluminum 100, there is no need for all that mass. It won't affect your > torque hardly at all, and your revs will be much punchier. > > In addition you'll have less rotating mass which will make your car more > stable and handle much better through the turns and panic stops. There is > almost no downside. If you are putting a DW head on your 100, you should > put a lighter flywheel. I like the idea of the BJ8 clutch too... good idea. > Wish I could put it on my BN1. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1@pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 16:25:06 2009 From: Rick Swain To: , , Healey List Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:41:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working If by "after a while" you mean after the first posting I agree completely. Rick Swain'59 BN4 Can we move back to Healey stuff? Every so often we get side-tracked on > political/economic issues (which we have agreed are not worth discussing) and > I find them to be very tedious after a while. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691817 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 16:25:16 2009 From: S and T Miller To: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:46:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Nash Healey won online car show in PA Check out: http://www.whtm.com/news/stories/1109/675189.html The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&fi lt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9 ,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN _evergreen2:112009 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 17:24:35 2009 From: "Mirek Sharp" To: "List Healey" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:26:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] What thread?? I think that you are right Ray - that is what I determined when I did the windscreen on my BT7. I re-used the old screws where I could, using the best chrome in the places where they can be seen.. I cannot recall what I did for chasing the threads in the new brackets - I have a 4 BA tap and likely used that, but I do not seem have made any notes, so I cannot be sure. I would drill/tap a piece of scrap to check before working on the corner brackets. cheers, Mirek Ray Wrote: Hey guys, you know those little shallow angle flat head screws that hold the > corner brackets of a 100 windshield frame? What thread are they? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 17:24:57 2009 From: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" To: S and T Miller Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:27:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nash Healey won online car show in PA That's like the one in the original Sabrina with Audrey Hepburn. On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:46 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > Check out: > http://www.whtm.com/news/stories/1109/675189.html > > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a > test > drive." > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&fi > lt > = > 200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000 > &cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9 > ,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en- > US:WWL_WIN > _evergreen2:112009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins@cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 17:25:08 2009 From: I Erbs To: Awgertoo@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:30:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working cheers. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:29 PM, wrote: > Can we move back to Healey stuff? Every so often we get side-tracked on > political/economic issues (which we have agreed are not worth discussing) > and > I find them to be very tedious after a while. > > Enough please? > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 17:57:44 2009 From: Jack Feldman To: healeys@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:12:48 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Thanks Thanks to all who replied to my request for information on softener sheets, and animals in the wilds of Sydney. I didn't realize what I had started. Jack _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 18:26:28 2009 From: jomar healey To: healeys@autox.team.net, Michael@mcassociatesinc.com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:34:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 Carpet Set Mike Realize if you order the carpet kit from Moss it will not have the correct armacord for under and behind the seats. It will also not have the flap/door for the transmission dipstick. Don't ask how I know. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream bn2 100M BJ8 The Blue Baby as per wife and kid --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Michael Couch wrote: From: Michael Couch Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Carpet Set To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 9:39 AM Need help on a bonehead move . . . . Just found out that I ordered the wrong BN2 red carpet kit last year during a Moss sale. I ordered the BN1 set by mistake and they won't take the return a year later. I thought I'd offer it to anyone on the list who might need it before I go the eBay route. Call or email if you're interested. Big discount. 412-952-9036, Michael@mcassociatesinc.com Don't tell my wife. Mike Couch Pittsburgh BN2 AN2 AN7 Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ah53@yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 18:27:54 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:43:31 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay A typical search string in ebay for healey 100 that would exclude the sprites and books and Jensen Healey would be: healey (100, 100-4, 100/4, bn1, bn2) -(sprite, book*, "Jensen Healey") This means: Search for: - healey And - 100 or 100-4, or 100/4, or bn1, or bn2 Exclude: - sprite, - all words beginning with book - phrase "Jensen Healey" I am not sure how you can exclude a seller though... _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 18:55:03 2009 From: I Erbs To: healey help Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:14:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] step 1 project restore the beast Thanks to those who have REPLIED WITH WARNINGS AND SUPPORT. We got the car off the ground, removed the aluminum cover plates on the door opening. A bit of rust at the bottom of striker panel and the end of the bottom sill where they meet. driver side rear fender dogleg bottom bottom of driver side front fender, rust does not seem to have penetrated the frame sections. Passenger side (sorry LHD car) less on rear dogleg, but more on front fender. small area on striker panel bottom. Kilmartin products will fix fenders, the sill and striker panels should be able to be repaired without replacement. Norm Nock says he has the rubber bits and I will source the Kilmartin parts from him as well. Will try to call tomorrow. The rusted floorboards and trunk bottom have already been repaired. I need to source an interior kit minus front seats and carpets, any ideas out there? Black with black piping on rear seats. I am so excited!!! I have waited 35 years to finish my car. All mechanicals/suspension parts have been rebuilt or replaced. cheers, will post photos as they come -- I Erbs Portland, OR _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 18:56:29 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: buhler@memphisassociates.com Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:18:28 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems Jon - What dashpot oil are you using? Should be 20 WT. Also does your car have the correct Dashpot springs? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Jon Buhler wrote: > Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but I have just > experienced > the problem. Under acceleration, the engine bucks and coughs but runs fine > once up to speed. > Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition system, > engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to specs. Sure would > appreciate > your thoughts. > > Jon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 18:56:58 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: S and T Miller Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:24:47 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay My trick on that is to do an advanced search and subtract any listing with the word "suzuki" in it, it weeds out all that crap. The ebay search term is -suzuki . Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:10 AM, S and T Miller wrote: > Does anyone know if you can block certain sellers on e-bay when you do a > search? There are about 5000 mufflers, ant., car covers, etc. listed by > car > parts wholesale when you search Austin Healey. Very annoying! _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 20:00:56 2009 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" , "'Alan Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:18:27 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 I think the "ring" that extends out or back around the perimeter is a good start, I will see if I can find some pics of mine after the work was done. Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 20:31:26 2009 From: Randy Hicks To: Healey List Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:41:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rusty Chassis Check out ebay # 160375758282 A good candidate for a Jule or Kilmartin chassis? :-) But for $10K........ :-) No Thanks. Randy Randy Hicks 56 Brook St. Rehoboth, MA 02769 508-252-9295 Home 508-981-5113 Cell RandyHicks@comcast.net Healey100M@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 20:55:43 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Awgertoo@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:01:11 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Truth or Fiction in Answers Australians call the two islands to the east: "Not Australia" Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:49 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 11/5/2009 7:29:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > p_cquinn@tpg.com.au writes: > > Patrick Quinn > The large island west of New Zealand > > > I hear that the Kiwi's have three names for these islands: > > 1. North Island > 2. South Island > 3. Mouth Island > > Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 20:59:11 2009 From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE To: , Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:29:46 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working Figures don't lie, but liars figure. > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:21:18 -0500 > From: robertlarson@att.net > To: ahbn6@verizon.net > CC: '4@autox.team.net; healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working > > Wasn't the quote, " Statistics don't lie but politicians always do.". > > Bob > > Also in corruption capital, NJ > > John Sims wrote: > > And, on the news last night -- Fox and CNN it was reported that the 650,000 > > jobs "created" includes people already working who got raises so that number > > is greatly inflated. What is the old saw about statistics don't lie but > > statisticians do -- or something like that. > > > > John Sims, BN6 > > Aberdeen, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink@msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 21:32:47 2009 From: Patrick Yoas To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:35:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin Rocker Panels For Sale About a year ago I bought a pair of Kilmartin Rocker Panels in anticipation of using them for my car. Long story short, I had to have a Jule frame because mine was in such bad shape and since the Jule frame comes with rocker panels on their kit I won't be needing them. I assume they fit all 6 cylinder cars. Contact me off list if interested? Patrick _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 21:33:11 2009 From: "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:39:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rusty Chassis << A good candidate for a Jule or Kilmartin chassis? >> NOT at $9500, Randy !!! Otherwise, absolutely !!! Ed _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 5 22:04:27 2009 From: To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:22:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?BOOOGUS?= a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. i cleaned it out and put out poison and traps, which they ignored and moved back in. after reading on the list about dryer sheets keeping out mice, i decided to give it a try. not only did they ignore the smell or whatever, they chewed up the dryer sheets and made a nest out of them. i rest my case. hjim _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 01:59:59 2009 From: "Thomas Willig" To: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:07:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Hi Tadek, as said before the lightening of the standard 100 flywheel is the way to go. If necessary I can send you a picture of my lighned flywheel. Let me know. The lightening is a very straightforward job, any machine shop can do that. My only advise is to balance all the individual components of an engine separately. That means, apart from the crank and balancer, first the "shaved" flywheel should be balanced alone, then the clutch cover should be fitted and the balancing repeated, if necessary only "meat" from the clutch cover, not the flywheel, has to be removed. Doing it that way, you can chance components (like a new damper or race flywheel etc. etc.) at a later time without disturbing the balance of the whole assembly. Of course all newly added components have to be balanced separately before assembly. I did this individual balancing on another non-Healey engine, and the result is a very pleasant running engine. Best regards Thomas Willig -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Mr. Bill [mailto:bn1@pacbell.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 23:35 An: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 Tadek, I bought mine from Bill Bolton in Cresswell, OR. tricarb@aol.com You can buy them either outright or exchange. It weighs 23 lbs. and has run fine for 30,000+ miles. The lightness causes no problem with the idle. I run it with the 3-speed and the mechanical clutch. Bill '53 Red Car ;-) Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Well, > > > > Is there anyone than that can tell me precisely where to shave it?.. I > assume it might be easier than finding a BJ8 wheel, especially that it might > not quite fit the mechanical clutch.. > > > > BTW, what's the advantage of the BJ8 clutch? > > > > Tadek > > > > _____ > > From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz > Cc: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheel lightening on 100 > > > > Tadek - > > At 45 lbs, there is no downside to lightening the flywheel. > > You need that mass if you a driving a truck or lorry, but for the little > half aluminum 100, there is no need for all that mass. It won't affect your > torque hardly at all, and your revs will be much punchier. > > In addition you'll have less rotating mass which will make your car more > stable and handle much better through the turns and panic stops. There is > almost no downside. If you are putting a DW head on your 100, you should > put a lighter flywheel. I like the idea of the BJ8 clutch too... good idea. > Wish I could put it on my BN1. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1@pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 03:01:47 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:12:58 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay You also have to take into account that people often misspell Healey as Healy and also use Austin-Healey. Kees Oudesluijs NL Tadeusz Malkiewicz schreef: > A typical search string in ebay for healey 100 that would exclude the > sprites and books and Jensen Healey would be: > > > > healey (100, 100-4, 100/4, bn1, bn2) -(sprite, book*, "Jensen Healey") > > > > This means: > > Search for: > - healey > And > - 100 or 100-4, or 100/4, or bn1, or bn2 > > > Exclude: > - sprite, > - all words beginning with book > - phrase "Jensen Healey" > > > > I am not sure how you can exclude a seller though... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2483 - Release Date: 11/05/09 19:52:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 07:30:40 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: coudesluijs@chello.nl, tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:51:27 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Keese-- You have it backwards: The proper spelling IS "Austin (Hyphen) Healey". Only when some badge supplier screwed up and the factory saw an opportunity to save some $$ by accepting badges that said "Austin (NO HYPHEN) Healey" did such a badge appear on an AH. Besides, the badges on all 100's are hyphenated and as we know 100's are the REAL Healeys. Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/6/2009 5:01:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, coudesluijs@chello.nl writes: You also have to take into account that people often misspell Healey as Healy and also use Austin-Healey _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 07:31:18 2009 From: ahy3000@comcast.net To: healeymanjim@hansencc.net Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Healeys] BOOOGUS Oh, you bought the cheese-flavored dryer sheets! As with any suggestion - your mileage may vary - cav eat emptor! Burt Weiner '63 BJ7 HBJ7L/23582 ahy3000@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: healeymanjim@hansencc.net To: healeys@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2009 11:22:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Healeys] BOOOGUS a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. i cleaned it out and put out poison and traps, which they ignored and moved back in. after reading on the list about dryer sheets keeping out mice, i decided to give it a try. not only did they ignore the smell or whatever, they chewed up the dryer sheets and made a nest out of them. i rest my case. hjim _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 07:31:29 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: healeymanjim@hansencc.net, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:56:52 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] BOOOGUS In a message dated 11/6/2009 12:04:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, healeymanjim@hansencc.net writes: a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. ---------------------------------------------- Why didn't you simply turn on the BBQ? Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 08:00:56 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Awgertoo@aol.com Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:27:57 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Michael, That is what I said: Austin-Healey (Austin hyphen Healey). May be the hyphen did/does not show in your message. Often signs get distorted in email. What I wanted to point out is that if you look for items on ebay for A-H, do not use only Healey, but also Healy (misspelling) and Austin-Healey which we all know is the correct name. If used without hyphen it is covered by Healey. I do not understand what you are saying. Real Healey's? That is another story. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs Awgertoo@aol.com schreef: > Keese-- > > You have it backwards: The proper spelling IS "Austin (Hyphen) Healey". > > Only when some badge supplier screwed up and the factory saw an > opportunity to save some $$ by accepting badges that said "Austin (NO > HYPHEN) Healey" did such a badge appear on an AH. > > Besides, the badges on all 100's are hyphenated and as we know 100's > are the REAL Healeys. > > Best--Michael Oritt > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You also have to take into account that people often misspell Healey as > > Healy and also use Austin-Healey _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 08:01:29 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:31:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] BOOOGUS Have you considered turning on the BBQ? ;) > From: healeymanjim@hansencc.net > > a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. i cleaned it out and put out poison and traps, which they ignored and moved back in. after reading on the list about dryer sheets keeping out mice, i decided to give it a try. not only did they ignore the smell or whatever, they chewed up the dryer sheets and made a nest out of them. i rest my case. hjim _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 08:31:46 2009 From: "Ron Ray" To: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:44:18 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] California Healey on Ebay Check out the engine color: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220506127037&v iewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123 Ron _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 09:03:05 2009 From: Charlie Baldwin To: "'Edward Perez'" , Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:32:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] BOOOGUS I wonder if being outside has some effect rather than in the enclosed interior or trunk of a car? ahy3000@comcast.net wrote: > Oh, you bought the cheese-flavored dryer sheets! As with any suggestion - your mileage may vary - cav eat emptor! > > > Burt Weiner > '63 BJ7 > HBJ7L/23582 > ahy3000@comcast.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: healeymanjim@hansencc.net > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2009 11:22:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [Healeys] BOOOGUS > > a few days ago i discovered the little field mice or rats that live on the golf course behind the house had set up housekeeping in my barbeque. i cleaned it out and put out poison and traps, which they ignored and moved back in. after reading on the list about dryer sheets keeping out mice, i decided to give it a try. not only did they ignore the smell or whatever, they chewed up the dryer sheets and made a nest out of them. i rest my case. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie@comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 10:31:51 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:56:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. I wonder what will it go up to.. Best, Tadek _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 11:31:07 2009 From: Robert Blair To: Pieter and Linda Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:47:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems Pieter, One easy check ... Carb piston(s) may be sticking in the bell housing. Make sure that when the pistons are pushed up to the top of their range by finger and let go, they fall quickley to the carb body base with a hard bump sound when released. If they dont fall quickley and with a bump sound they are not fully free in the chamber there will be fluffy engine response when accelarating as friction is interefering with the vacuum. If the dash pots have been off recently, then it is easy to not align them accurately with screwing them back on - the pistons must be fully free to slide under down gravity. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail@yahoo.com --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Pieter and Linda wrote: > From: Pieter and Linda > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 67, BJ8 Acceleration problems > To: buhler@memphisassociates.com > Cc: healeys@autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 10:37 AM > Faulty or leaking vacuum advance? > Pieter > On 05/11/2009, at 6:31 PM, Jon Buhler wrote: > > > Fellows, this may have been addressed many times, but > I have just experienced > > the problem. Under acceleration, the engine > bucks and coughs but runs fine > > once up to speed. > > Plugs are clean, dashpot oil OK, PerTronix ignition > system, > > engine warmed up and jets adjusted according to > specs. Sure would appreciate > > your thoughts. > > > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as pieters@pt.lu > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail@yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 11:31:53 2009 From: Robert Blair To: healeys@autox.team.net, Ron Ray Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:54:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey on Ebay Love the color - but not the engine ..... bit lighter than mine. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Ron Ray wrote: > From: Ron Ray > Subject: [Healeys] California Healey on Ebay > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 6:44 AM > Check out the engine color: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220506127037&v > iewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123 > > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail@yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 12:03:14 2009 From: To: , Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:30:07 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Tadek, this is one of the rare Ms with a 3 speed gearbox. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tadeusz Malkiewicz Gesendet: Freitag, 6. November 2009 17:57 An: healeys@autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. I wonder what will it go up to.. Best, Tadek __________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 12:03:41 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:31:12 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Tadek-- Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans ---------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/6/2009 12:31:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl writes: There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 13:07:57 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:18:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? though, it is being advertized as: "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all numbers matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 13:30:32 2009 From: Bob To: Healey List Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:39:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? What was the great quote here years ago about the "M's"? Something like: Of the 600 built 1500 survive......... Bob Plain Jane 55 BN1 Awgertoo@aol.com wrote: > Tadek-- > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans > ---------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 13:30:49 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: Awgertoo@aol.com, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:40:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? The current bid though is pretty high for an unfinished restoration... ________________________________________ From: Awgertoo@aol.com [mailto:Awgertoo@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:31 PM To: tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl; healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Tadek-- Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans ---------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/6/2009 12:31:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl writes: There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 13:30:59 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:05:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH NFI Austin Healey 3000 Body and car parts - $599 (Nashua NH.) ( no images) http://nh.craigslist.org/pts/1451892182.html shroud, fenders, Valve cover Aluminum finned _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 14:28:08 2009 From: To: healey help Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:32:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Eurpoean request I have received a request from Portugal concerning an attempt to get new wheels for a 1969 Sprite. Is there anyone on the list, from Europe, that I can forward this email to who might be able to help this gentleman out. Bill BJ7 Healey-Marque Classified ads Mgr. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 14:28:41 2009 From: To: healey help Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:35:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Any way to check with the 100M Registry to see if this is true? Bill BJ7 > From: robertduquette@sympatico.ca > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:18:42 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > > though, it is being advertized as: > > "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all numbers > matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > > > > > > > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so > (just > > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 15:04:13 2009 From: gilbert gauthier To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:18:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? I ask the guy how come the brace were not bent and he told me that they were bent when they were not a real factory M. Some are real one some are not as we can see . giby Looking for a M with good history at an affordable and realistic price :-) Le 09-11-06 ` 14:40, Tadeusz Malkiewicz a icrit : > The current bid though is pretty high for an unfinished restoration... > > ________________________________________ > From: Awgertoo@aol.com [mailto:Awgertoo@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 7:31 PM > To: tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl; healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > > Tadek-- > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are > not so > (just last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M > because it > had apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is > entirely > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans > ---------------------------------------- > In a message dated 11/6/2009 12:31:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl writes: > There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme > > Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam > exchange??.. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as comkanuk@cgocable.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 15:34:18 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: robertlarson@att.net, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:32:25 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:30:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertlarson@att.net writes: What was the great quote here years ago about the "M's"? Something like: Of the 600 built 1500 survive......... Bob Exactly-- Michael _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 15:34:45 2009 From: Oudesluys To: insptwo@msn.com Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:40:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Eurpoean request This may be a difficult one as the bolt pattern is 4x4" which is not very common, it was used on: Sprite/Midget, Mini, Vauxhall Viva/Firenza/Magnum HC, Morris Minor, Hillman/Sunbeam Imp, Chevrolet Vega (I think), Jensen Healey, Panther Kalista? and perhaps a few others. The best bet would be Minilite in the UK. The wheel style of the alloys would suit the car and they can produce the proper bolt pattern, wheelsize and ET or off set. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs insptwo@msn.com schreef: > I have received a request from Portugal concerning an attempt to get new > wheels for a 1969 Sprite. Is there anyone on the list, from Europe, that I can > forward this email to who might be able to help this gentleman out. > > Bill > > BJ7 > > Healey-Marque Classified ads Mgr. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 15:35:09 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:49:13 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:07:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: though, it is being advertized as: "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all numbers matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- I assume this is referring to Bill Meade's "100 M Registry". To my knowledge Bill does NOT maintain a registry that certifies which cars are actually authentic M cars (the so-called 640). It would be nice if that were the purpose of the registry but in fact it serves as a profit-center for Bill. Cars are listed on his Registry if they register and pay a fee. Some cars are no doubt real M's and some are cars that have been "converted to "M" specs by owners. In fact my 1954 BN1 LeMans may be found mentioned in the roles of Bill's registry simply because I chose to send him the money (I really liked the Registry grill badge!). But I was very clear to say that my car is simply a BN1 LeMans that had been converted to M specs by the original owner in about 1956-1957, though I doubt that the owners of all the cars on the registry may have been as scrupulous. I'm not being critical of Bill Meade's effort but I think his "Registry" may invite abuse as simply saying that a car is "On the 100 M Registry" is not a guarantee of authenticity. Bottomline--M=MONEY!!! Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 15:35:25 2009 From: To: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:49:27 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Btw. I never understood/understand the hype about these Warwick kit modified Healey 100s. For me they are 100s with some sportive extras. The way the kit was installed was not very professionally done (bended cross brace etc.) and the cars had, except the additions known, no upgrading which makes them really interesting for a collector. No real hightech installed, just a modkit fitted what every normal garage could do. So for me this glorification of these 100Ms it really something I cannot share. But that's just my personal opinion. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 16:03:51 2009 From: Bob Spidell To: gilbert gauthier Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Is it just me, or do the louvers on the bonnet--and possibly the bonnet itself--appear incorrect; i.e. too far apart? I'm working from memory, but on our M I think the louvers are closer together. Cheers, Bob (whose dad found a factory 100M in the local newspaper and bought it--bless his heart) -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA I ask the guy how come the brace were not bent and he told me that they were bent when they were not a real factory M. Some are real one some are not as we can see . giby Looking for a M with good history at an affordable and realistic price :-) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 16:33:56 2009 From: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" To: Awgertoo@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:44:41 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Could the heritage cert. have valuable info? Are the pistons and all correct? On Nov 6, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Awgertoo@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:07:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: > > though, it is being advertized as: > > "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all > numbers > matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > > I assume this is referring to Bill Meade's "100 M Registry". > > To my knowledge Bill does NOT maintain a registry that certifies which > cars are actually authentic M cars (the so-called 640). It would > be nice if > that were the purpose of the registry but in fact it serves as a > profit-center for Bill. Cars are listed on his Registry if they > register and pay a > fee. Some cars are no doubt real M's and some are cars that have > been > "converted to "M" specs by owners. In fact my 1954 BN1 LeMans may > be found > mentioned in the roles of Bill's registry simply because I chose to > send him the > money (I really liked the Registry grill badge!). But I was very > clear to > say that my car is simply a BN1 LeMans that had been converted to M > specs > by the original owner in about 1956-1957, though I doubt that the > owners of > all the cars on the registry may have been as scrupulous. > > I'm not being critical of Bill Meade's effort but I think his > "Registry" > may invite abuse as simply saying that a car is "On the 100 M > Registry" is > not a guarantee of authenticity. Bottomline--M=MONEY!!! > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins@cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 17:34:10 2009 From: "Alex" To: , "Healeys" Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:40:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH This guy is disingenuous. When my friend got to his location to see the shroud, he wanted $800 for it---alone! He wouldn't send photos, and it turned out the shroud was in poor condition. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ROBERT: Please forward to the reflector list. Thanks. [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 17:34:35 2009 From: Randy Hicks To: Awgertoo@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:44:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Actually Meade's registry did distinguish between factory built cars and converted cars according too his Membership Directory dated 1998. Factory Produced Cars were "F" numbers in the registry, Early Pre-Post Production Converted Cars were "E-C numbers, and Post Production Converted Cars were "C" numbers. This was the last Membership Directory I ever got and the Newsletters stopped in late 1990's. No real communication since that time. Only time I had communication with the Registry was 4-5 years ago when I checked out a car and told my membership had lapsed and I could re-up for $20. I was told to just send him $20 every year with no notification to keep membership active. ????? This Registry has always been a mystery to me and prefer to have my car listed with Rich Chrysler's registry. Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Awgertoo@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:07:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: > > though, it is being advertized as: > > "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all > numbers > matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > > I assume this is referring to Bill Meade's "100 M Registry". > > To my knowledge Bill does NOT maintain a registry that certifies which > cars are actually authentic M cars (the so-called 640). It would > be nice if > that were the purpose of the registry but in fact it serves as a > profit-center for Bill. Cars are listed on his Registry if they > register and pay a > fee. Some cars are no doubt real M's and some are cars that have > been > "converted to "M" specs by owners. In fact my 1954 BN1 LeMans may > be found > mentioned in the roles of Bill's registry simply because I chose to > send him the > money (I really liked the Registry grill badge!). But I was very > clear to > say that my car is simply a BN1 LeMans that had been converted to M > specs > by the original owner in about 1956-1957, though I doubt that the > owners of > all the cars on the registry may have been as scrupulous. > > I'm not being critical of Bill Meade's effort but I think his > "Registry" > may invite abuse as simply saying that a car is "On the 100 M > Registry" is > not a guarantee of authenticity. Bottomline--M=MONEY!!! > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 17:36:06 2009 From: Jess Power To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:50:21 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] aluminum gas tank I have a new aluminum gas tank and the gas line is a brass fitting with a ferrel.Do I need pipe joint compound or plumber's tape? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 17:36:18 2009 From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:50:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Tadek and All, I have personally looked at dozens of Factory 100M's and back when Bill Wood had the list of Factory M's he wood confirm those that I found for various buyers. I can tell you from personal experience there are several reasons that the X brace will not be bent on a genuine Facory M. According to either Roger Menedue, the standing practice at Warwick when the M's were built was to undo the front engine mounts and then jack the engine up slightly and then slide the canshaft in, since the X brace was in the way. However, as the story goes, if Geoff Healey was not in the shop to supervise, the mechanics would save time and bend the brace to one side instead. I believe that this story comes from Reid Trummel via Roger and possibly Geoff. I can personally confirm several Factory M's with *NO* bend in the X brace. I found a car in San Diego some years back and the X brace on first inspection did not appear to be bent. However when I examined the car closer, it had been hit at some point in the past in the front and apparently the body shop, not knowing any better, had straightened the bend in the X brace when they did the repairs Cheers, Curt Arndt AH Concours Committee On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Tadeusz Malkiewicz < tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl> wrote: There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme > > *Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam > exchange??.*. > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 17:36:30 2009 From: Bert Van Brande To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:52:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? As pointed out already, do your homework on this one. 'Buy the seller' before you 'buy the car'. email me off list if you need more information. Bert _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 17:36:42 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: Healey100M@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:57:53 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Hi Randy-- I felt there was some "gray area" esp. since the documentation was supplied by the registratnt--that being you and me--who paid the money. I'll try to dig out my file but do not recall the "F-EC-C" designations though that would have been a good idea. I too was quite disappointed that there was never anything else sent except for the initial "Directory"--no effort to keep the community aware of the current status so how authoritative can it be? A directory and the M-spec brochure printed on a couple of pieces of yellow paper isn't much for $20.00 but I was young and wanted the badge--which is a nice item and graces the grill of my (LeMans) car--and BTW don't you think such a badge tends to mislead an observer into thinking that the car bearing it might be an M? My car is also registered with Rich--for free. Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/6/2009 6:45:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Healey100M@gmail.com writes: Actually Meade's registry did distinguish between factory built cars and converted cars according too his Membership Directory dated 1998. Factory Produced Cars were "F" numbers in the registry, Early Pre-Post Production Converted Cars were "E-C numbers, and Post Production Converted Cars were "C" numbers. This was the last Membership Directory I ever got and the Newsletters stopped in late 1990's. No real communication since that time. Only time I had communication with the Registry was 4-5 years ago when I checked out a car and told my membership had lapsed and I could re-up for $20. I was told to just send him $20 every year with no notification to keep membership active. ????? This Registry has always been a mystery to me and prefer to have my car listed with Rich Chrysler's registry. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 18:07:40 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:14:38 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH Sorry, just found it on the web. there's a reflector list? :) > From: alexmm@roadrunner.com > > This guy is disingenuous. When my friend got to his location to see the > shroud, he wanted $800 for it---alone! > > He wouldn't send photos, and it turned out the shroud was in poor condition. > > == Alex in Maine > "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 > Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, > 1965 MG Midget > http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm > > ROBERT: Please forward to the reflector list. Thanks. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 18:07:59 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:19:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? A heritage certificate is done without anyone seeing the car. You just send them a VIN and money and they print out a certificate for that car. > CC: robertduquette@sympatico.ca; healeys@autox.team.net > From: e-wilkins@cox.net > > > Could the heritage cert. have valuable info? > > Are the pistons and all correct? > > > On Nov 6, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Awgertoo@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:07:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: > > > > though, it is being advertized as: > > > > "1956 Austin Healey 100M Factory car with Heritage certificate ,all > > numbers > > matching ,100 M Registry and California clear Title." > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I assume this is referring to Bill Meade's "100 M Registry". > > > > To my knowledge Bill does NOT maintain a registry that certifies which > > cars are actually authentic M cars (the so-called 640). It would > > be nice if > > that were the purpose of the registry but in fact it serves as a > > profit-center for Bill. Cars are listed on his Registry if they > > register and pay a > > fee. Some cars are no doubt real M's and some are cars that have > > been > > "converted to "M" specs by owners. In fact my 1954 BN1 LeMans may > > be found > > mentioned in the roles of Bill's registry simply because I chose to > > send him the > > money (I really liked the Registry grill badge!). But I was very > > clear to > > say that my car is simply a BN1 LeMans that had been converted to M > > specs > > by the original owner in about 1956-1957, though I doubt that the > > owners of > > all the cars on the registry may have been as scrupulous. > > > > I'm not being critical of Bill Meade's effort but I think his > > "Registry" > > may invite abuse as simply saying that a car is "On the 100 M > > Registry" is > > not a guarantee of authenticity. Bottomline--M=MONEY!!! > > > > Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 19:03:21 2009 From: "John & Kerry Rowe" To: "'Jess Power'" Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:34:29 +1000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] aluminum gas tank Jess Neither. The ferrel provided it has the correct fittings with it makes a perfect seal both for pressure or vacuum John Rowe Qld Australia BN1 BT7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jess Power Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 9:50 AM To: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] aluminum gas tank I have a new aluminum gas tank and the gas line is a brass fitting with a ferrel.Do I need pipe joint compound or plumber's tape? _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 20:03:55 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:06:59 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In a message dated 11/6/2009 8:07:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robertduquette@sympatico.ca writes: A heritage certificate is done without anyone seeing the car. You just send them a VIN and money and they print out a certificate for that car. And they are not always accurate. Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 20:04:29 2009 From: "John Linkosky" To: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:08:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100M on Ebay I just looked at the auction and with bidder identities kept private, no one can tell who is bidding or how many times the same bidders have bid. I bet the car doesn't meet reserve. I am always suspicious of shill bidding when bidder identities are kept private. With the way ebay scrambles the identity of bidders now, there is no reason to keep identities private. The old excuse used to be that those with similar products/cars for sale would snipe the identities of the bidders and try to sell their car to them. Not a valid reason anymore. John _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 20:04:41 2009 From: "Rich C" To: , Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:22:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Hello all, Meanwhile we're documenting all the "factory M's" as such on the Hundred Registry if they can substantiate with the BMIHT certificate, etc. Within the last year, BMIHT has opened up their services a bit and will check one or two basic items like this free of charge per individual. So if you have or find that your car is a "confirmed" factory M, or otherwise for that matter, please let me know so we can all keep our Hundred Registry up to date and as accurate as possible. BTW, we're up to over 2800 cars registered now, thanks to all of your input. Rich Chrysler North American Hundred Registrar Michael Oritt wrote: > My car is also registered with Rich--for free. > Randy Hicks wrote: This Registry has always been a mystery to me and prefer to have my > car listed with Rich Chrysler's registry. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 20:35:41 2009 From: m.brouillette@comcast.net To: Alex Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 02:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH I too talked to this guy, and passed on his stuff. He's had this ad up in the NH Craiglist on and off for at least 6 months. Mike B 59 BT7 Bedford, NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex" To: robertduquette@sympatico.ca, "Healeys" Sent: Friday, November 6, 2009 6:40:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 parts in NH This guy is disingenuous. When my friend got to his location to see the shroud, he wanted $800 for it---alone! He wouldn't send photos, and it turned out the shroud was in poor condition. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ROBERT: Please forward to the reflector list. Thanks. [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as m.brouillette@comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 22:05:41 2009 From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE To: , Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:20:04 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? I suppose the body shop may have straightened it...? It does have the right shroud support though. But $47K! Bill Lawrence > From: tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:56:36 +0100 > Subject: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > > There seems to be an M on ebay - http://tinyurl.com/yhbkvme > > Can anyone explain why is the front X support not bent for cam exchange??.. > > I wonder what will it go up to.. > > Best, Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink@msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 6 22:06:12 2009 From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE To: , Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:27:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? It's getting so the "plain janes" are the rare ones. Bill LawrenceBN1 #554 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:39:53 -0500 > From: robertlarson@att.net > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > > What was the great quote here years ago about the "M's"? > > Something like: > > Of the 600 built 1500 survive......... > > Bob > Plain Jane 55 BN1 > > Awgertoo@aol.com wrote: > > Tadek-- > > > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just > > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans > > ---------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink@msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 01:04:44 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE , robertlarson@att.net, Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:13:51 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? I gotta plain jane BN1... Don't want the extra power, I have an Austin gearbox! On 11/7/09, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > It's getting so the "plain janes" are the rare ones. > > Bill LawrenceBN1 #554 >> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:39:53 -0500 >> From: robertlarson@att.net >> To: healeys@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? >> >> What was the great quote here years ago about the "M's"? >> >> Something like: >> >> Of the 600 built 1500 survive......... >> >> Bob >> Plain Jane 55 BN1 >> >> Awgertoo@aol.com wrote: >> > Tadek-- >> > >> > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am >> > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not >> > so > (just >> > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it >> > had >> > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely >> > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. >> > >> > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans >> > ---------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as ynotink@msn.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 03:03:36 2009 From: John Harper To: Josef.Eckert@t-systems.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:55:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Josef Let me wade in here but before I do you need to know that I have a BN1 Le Mans that has almost everything that was available from the Donald Healey Motor Company very early on. My provenance is estimated at around 90% due to both Donald and Bic confirming that they knew the original owner well but on the other hand I do not have a receipt for the original work because there might not have been one. It does however have a Healey badge on the boot not Austin-Healey or Austin of England. This was claimed to have been fitted at Donald Healey Motor Company. Regarding Warwick kits there were not I understand any such things. Most kits were marketed by BMC under a BMC part number. The Warwick parts were not numbered using BMC notation but Healey's own starting with 'H'. 'H' parts could be bought as required and maybe some came naturally together and therefore could I suppose be considered a kit. However I can agree with you up to point that a BN2M or cars modified to this level are a bit of a hype because all we are talking about is the engine modifications that were just a subset of what was originally available for the BN1. The point that is being missed here is that early owners were keen to bring their cars up to the same specification as those that did so well in the Le Mans race. Donald saw a marketing opportunity here and offered all and perhaps more items to early BN1 owners. These were much more than just the engine modifications and included such things as different rear axle and overdrive ratios, larger fuel tanks, modified suspension etc. Owners often sent their car to Warwick to have these changes carried and a strong racing group resulted. Incidentally a louvered bonnet was not offered in the early days. The Le Mans race cars did not have these. All they had as Roger told me, was a block of wood to keep the bonnet a bit open at the rear. Obviously I have to disagree with your view. A car that had received the personal attention of Donald must be of more interest than a BN2 that has been modified in recent years. Regards >Btw. I never understood/understand the hype about these Warwick kit >modified Healey 100s. -- John Harper _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 06:34:38 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: healeys@autox.team.net, 'Rich C' Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:57:25 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Rich, And how many of these 2800 are M? (Hopefully less then 640 :-) ) Tadek Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:22:15 -0500 From: "Rich C" Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? To: , Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Message-ID: <9CD5A50C89E243239D5E10EA0A601683@LIFEBOOK> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello all, Meanwhile we're documenting all the "factory M's" as such on the Hundred Registry if they can substantiate with the BMIHT certificate, etc. Within the last year, BMIHT has opened up their services a bit and will check one or two basic items like this free of charge per individual. So if you have or find that your car is a "confirmed" factory M, or otherwise for that matter, please let me know so we can all keep our Hundred Registry up to date and as accurate as possible. BTW, we're up to over 2800 cars registered now, thanks to all of your input. Rich Chrysler North American Hundred Registrar _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 07:34:36 2009 From: Bill Poff To: Healey List Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:58:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? Bill 100 100M _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 08:35:44 2009 From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: Bill Poff Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:36:52 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet Bill Paul Schwartz of Orinda CA is this person. He used to advertise in the Healey magazines. Curt On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Bill Poff wrote: > A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver > dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. > Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? > > Bill > 100 > 100M > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 09:35:36 2009 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" , "Bill Poff" Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:44:34 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet Years ago I watched a History Channel Special on the Morgan, they showed how they made the louvered bonnets, pressing the louvers in one by one by hand, it looked like they basically eyeballed the placement and alignment of the louvers, does anyone know if the factory M louvers were made in a similar manner, or did they have a big multiple louver stamping machine? Just curious, Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 09:35:57 2009 From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: Greg Lemon Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:51:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet Greg, I don't know for certain but think about it for a moment, a HUGE expense to produce a multiple louvered die for an inexpensive, extremely limited production car. Just over 1,000 bonnets louvered. This was after all England just after the war. Cheers Curt On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Years ago I watched a History Channel Special on the Morgan, they showed > how they made the louvered bonnets, pressing the louvers in one by one by > hand, it looked like they basically eyeballed the placement and alignment of > the louvers, does anyone know if the factory M louvers were made in a > similar manner, or did they have a big multiple louver stamping machine? > > Just curious, Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 09:36:21 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: ah@jharper.demon.co.uk, Josef.Eckert@t-systems.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:04:02 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In a message dated 11/7/2009 5:03:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ah@jharper.demon.co.uk writes: Obviously I have to disagree with your view. A car that had received the personal attention of Donald must be of more interest than a BN2 that has been modified in recent years. Another interesting tidbit/point of view regarding the "M" cars that received this "special" treatment that might put things into perspective is to imagine a conversation such as this between DMH and Bic: With the decision having been made to bring out the 100-6 the marketing question Donald faced might be stated: "How the Heck am I going to get rid of these darn 640 four-cylinder cars???? Surely no one will want to buy last year's model!" And then Bic said "Hey Dad I got a great idea--let's make them into a special model, put on some jazzy stuff like a leather hood strap and louvers, raise the HP a few by using a different piston and cam, and let's be sure to put on one of those Cold Air Boxes that everyone is convinced is the hot lick. We may not make any extra money but at least we won't be stuck with those cars." And thus was born the much-vaunted 100M.... Best--Michael Oritt (NOT a Healey revisionist-historian, but one willing to engage in logical speculation) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 09:36:33 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: healey2004@yahoo.com, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:05:59 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet In a message dated 11/7/2009 9:34:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, healey2004@yahoo.com writes: A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? -------------------------------------------- It was Paul Schwartz of Colorado. His pattern was "correct" and BTW there is nothing that looks worse to my eye than the wrong louver pattern. Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 10:07:02 2009 From: Awgertoo@aol.com To: healey.nut@gmail.com, ynotink@msn.com, robertlarson@att.net, Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:10:51 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? In a message dated 11/7/2009 3:03:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, healey.nut@gmail.com writes: I gotta plain jane BN1... Don't want the extra power, I have an Austin gearbox! ----------------------------- Some people speculate that a car such as that is destined for high value since most of them will soon have been grabbed up and made into M's. Hang onto it. Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 10:36:35 2009 From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: Healey List Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:42:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Louvered 100 bonnet Paul is from Orinda, CA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Curt/Nancy Arndt Date: Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet To: Bill Poff Cc: Healey List Bill Paul Schwartz of Orinda CA is this person. He used to advertise in the Healey magazines. Curt On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Bill Poff wrote: A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver > dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. > Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? > > Bill > 100 > 100M _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 11:36:19 2009 From: "Mr. Bill" To: Awgertoo@aol.com Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:51:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Ohhhhhhhh Mr. Oritt, Here I thought we had settled our discussion amiably off List with you stating: "Sorry for the unnecessary conflict." and attaching a picture of your 100 with some sort of a hardtop??? I don't know why you have to be surreptitious with "some BN1 owner" when everybody knows it's me, Bill Barnett from the South Left Coast USA or Mr. Bill to you. Actually I'm glad you decided to drag this back out in public AGAIN because I would like to ask for the collective wisdom of our worldwide group. In our off List correspondence I asked Mr. Oritt: "What I originally questioned was how you decided that our cars should 'properly be called a 100 Lemans' and 'calling the car an M is wrong'. Is this your nomenclature? If so, who appointed you the authority? If not, please direct me to your reference and I will publicly apologize to you. If it is to be Lemans, which of the three spellings you have used is correct?" (LeMans or Le Mans) Mr. Oritt chose to completely ignore my simple questions. Can anyone on our List help bail him out? Many thanks for your patience and with your help, we can put this much overworked terminology silliness to rest. Bill '53 Red Car Awgertoo@aol.com wrote: > Tadek-- > > Just because it says it is an M does not mean it really is one. I am > scrupulous about calling my 100 LeMans just what it is--others are not so (just > last week some BN1 owner felt it proper to cal his car an M because it had > apparently been modified to M-specs. In any cae it thus it is entirely > possible/probable that this is simply a non-M car. > > Best--Michael Oritt. 100 LeMans _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 13:52:13 2009 From: Tadeusz Malkiewicz To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:22:49 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet Kilmartin also louvers bonnets - I got mine form them, looks pretty good.. Price was attractive too if you solve the shipping issue... Best, tadek _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 14:50:36 2009 From: john spaur To: I Erbs Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:18:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] misc rubber stuff I don't know about an all inclusive kit but you can obtain some grommets from hardware stores and Steel Rubber Products has other rubber bits although they are not specifically listed for Healeys. John At 08:50 AM 11/5/2009 -0800, I Erbs wrote: >.... Is there an all inclusive kit, or must >I look for each type of kit. I have seen a firewall kit, but again, not a >whole car. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 15:52:26 2009 From: Randy Hicks To: "Mr. Bill" Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:00:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Oh, just to further muddy the water, my Heritage Certificate states: "The B.M.I.H.T can confirm that this car is a genuine, factory built Austin Healey 100 M "Le Mans"." Le Mans being in quotes and a space between Le & Mans. Doesn't that help? :-) Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M "Le Mans" '55 BN1 Dealer "Le Mans" '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M@gmail.com On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Mr. Bill wrote: > Ohhhhhhhh Mr. Oritt, > > Here I thought we had settled our discussion amiably off List with you > stating: "Sorry for the unnecessary conflict." and attaching a > picture > of your 100 with some sort of a hardtop??? > > I don't know why you have to be surreptitious with "some BN1 owner" > when > everybody knows it's me, Bill Barnett from the South Left Coast USA or > Mr. Bill to you. Actually I'm glad you decided to drag this back > out in > public AGAIN because I would like to ask for the collective wisdom of > our worldwide group. > > In our off List correspondence I asked Mr. Oritt: "What I originally > questioned was how you decided that our cars should 'properly be > called > a 100 Lemans' and 'calling the car an M is wrong'. Is this your > nomenclature? If so, who appointed you the authority? If not, please > direct me to your reference and I will publicly apologize to you. > If it > is to be Lemans, which of the three spellings you have used is > correct?" (LeMans or Le Mans) > > Mr. Oritt chose to completely ignore my simple questions. Can > anyone on > our List help bail him out? > > Many thanks for your patience and with your help, we can put this much > overworked terminology silliness to rest. > > Bill > '53 Red Car _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 16:22:25 2009 From: Walt Peterson To: Healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:25:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change What would it entail switching from wires to disc-type wheels? I like the wires but after 40 plus years the splines & hubs are worn. I also like the mini lite look & the saving of unsprung weight, the relative simplicity, etc. Seems a spacer & some longer studs might work in the back, not sure about the front. There are more and more events with vintage-friendly rules, and the wheels would help there, too. What knowledge/experience do you have? Thanks, Walt BT 7 Albatross Jabro-buick _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 17:21:48 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Walt Peterson , Healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:36:25 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change Walt - You can get the disc hubs for the front of your car (used) but if unsprung weight is your concern, the disc conversion won't do much because the front hubs (if you can find them) are very heavy. Also the hub, used, will probably be very expensive anyway. If unsprung weght is the concern, the splined + splined minilites is probably the way to go. Alan On 11/8/09, Walt Peterson wrote: > > What would it entail switching from wires to disc-type wheels? I like the > wires but after 40 plus years the splines & hubs are worn. I also like the > mini lite look & the saving of unsprung weight, the relative simplicity, > etc. > Seems a spacer & some longer studs might work in the back, not sure about > the > front. There are more and more events with vintage-friendly rules, and the > wheels would help there, too. What knowledge/experience do you have? > > Thanks, > > Walt > > BT 7 > Albatross > Jabro-buick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 18:54:39 2009 From: "J. Scott Morris" To: Healey List Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:04:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet Hello Bill; The most recent information I have on Paul Schwartz is from March 2007. He used to advertise in the various Healey magazines about his louvering service. At that time the contact information was: lucashly@aol.com 1-925-254-5001 Various updates are listed below. I have not done a recent 411 Serach since 2007 Good Luck. --Scott Morris, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada '62 3000 MkII BT7; '60 3000 MkI BN7 J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives Paul Schwartz lucashly@aol.com 1-925-254-5001 March 2006 Dave Russell lucashly@comcast.net 1-925-254-5001 April 2004 411 Search [March 22 2007] Schwartz, Kay 19 el Rincon, Orinda, CA 94563-2012 (925) 254-5001 --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bill Poff wrote: << A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? >> __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 19:24:10 2009 From: Robert Blair To: "Mr. Bill" , Randy Hicks Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:39:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? 4 Cylinder Listers, I am not an M or a LeMans or a Le Mans guy so forgive the optimism here, but it seems that all could be happy with '100M LeMans or '100M Le Mans', or???? As a Brit and knowing the Brits, I personally doubt that DH et al would have formalized the name Le Mans as a factory authorised name - cos that if just too FRENCH. We all know that history book. I suspect that the 'M' in Le Mans appealed to describe the spoken kit that updraded production cars to the basic spec of the cars that ran at Le Mans. Make sense to anyone? Surely the multiple Healey books quoting DH et al should clearly show the real name they used/intended, vs names that enthusiats tend to adopt after the fact - eg the Ferrari Daytona - there never was a Ferrari Daytona as far as the factory is concerned - it was simple a Ferrari 356GTB/4 - period. The fans gave it the Daytona name[another story]and it stuck permanently. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail@yahoo.com --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Randy Hicks wrote: > From: Randy Hicks > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? > To: "Mr. Bill" > Cc: Awgertoo@aol.com, healeys@autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 2:00 PM > Oh, just to further muddy the water, > my Heritage Certificate states: > > "The B.M.I.H.T can confirm that this car is a genuine, > factory built Austin Healey 100 M "Le Mans"." > > Le Mans being in quotes and a space between Le & Mans. > > Doesn't that help? :-) > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M "Le Mans" > '55 BN1 Dealer "Le Mans" > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 7 19:24:38 2009 From: "Mr. Bill" To: Randy Hicks , healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:43:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Many thx, Randy, that was the type of authority I was hoping would be cited. It totally clears up everything. ROTFLMAO! At least we now know how to spell Le Mans, just like they do in France. Back to more productive and less childish endeavors. Bill '53 Red Car ;-) Randy Hicks wrote: > Oh, just to further muddy the water, my Heritage Certificate states: > > "The B.M.I.H.T can confirm that this car is a genuine, factory built > Austin Healey 100 M "Le Mans"." > > Le Mans being in quotes and a space between Le & Mans. > > Doesn't that help? :-) > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M "Le Mans" > '55 BN1 Dealer "Le Mans" > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 07:07:40 2009 From: "Mark LaPierre" To: "Walt Peterson" , Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:08:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change What knowledge/experience do you have? The archives has years of knowledge and experience while you are waiting for feedback. Type in Mini light wheels or Panasport wheels.. Very expensive any way you go. New W/W are 150.00 X 4, (painted) hubs are about the same. New inner tubes, Knock offs, tires if needed. But should last the life of the car if PM is done properly. Switch to disc wheels? new front hubs, Wheels, Tires if needed, correct adaptors, Prices very of course. Look in your Moss catalog, and Dayton WW online to compare. Mark > > Thanks, > > Walt > > BT 7 > Albatross > Jabro-buick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem@sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 08:26:05 2009 From: "Al Fuller" To: "'John Sims'" , "'Oudesluys'" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:26:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency My Toyota dealer changes my oil. I went in last week, and the new sticker has a 3000 mile interval (as usual). The owner's manual says 7,500 miles. I ignore the sticker and do it at 7,500 (the second trip odometer is great for this...). I hate to think like a lawyer, but there IS an argument that having/allowing manufacturer representatives telling people they need oil changes at less than half of the manufacturer's interval feels fraudulent. Al Fuller al@bighealey.org '62 BT-7 '65 BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:44 PM To: 'Oudesluys'; 'Dan Stromquist' Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency I have often wondered about that. Years ago, it was recommended to change every 1,000 miles. Now new car manufacturers recommend every 7,500. But, the quick change guys such as Jiffy Lube still put stickers on your car saying to change every 3,000 miles. Since the car manufacturer holds my 10 year 100,000 mile power train warranty, I am following his directions. Now, with an older engine, who really knows? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 08:56:12 2009 From: Fred Wescoe To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:58:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic Lister, This is help for someone in the Lexington, Ky area who is not on the list. Does anyone know of a competent mechanic, in the Lexington, KY area, who has experience on British cars and can work on a 63 BJ7? Everything from ignition, carbs and transmission? Thanks _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 09:44:17 2009 From: Richard Ewald To: Al Fuller Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:41:56 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency While you may thing of them as the manufacturer's representatives, they are not. They are independent business that sell and service Toyota cars and trucks. As such then can tell a customer whatever they wish. What the dealer tells the customer often makes the factory unhappy, but there really isn't much they can do about it. Rick (Who used to work for the factory, and now is a service manager at a large dealership) (PS We don't recommend 3K oil services at my store) On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Al Fuller wrote: > My Toyota dealer changes my oil. I went in last week, and the new sticker > has a 3000 mile interval (as usual). The owner's manual says 7,500 miles. > I ignore the sticker and do it at 7,500 (the second trip odometer is great > for this...). > > I hate to think like a lawyer, but there IS an argument that > having/allowing > manufacturer representatives telling people they need oil changes at less > than half of the manufacturer's interval feels fraudulent. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 09:45:11 2009 From: Bill B To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:56:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] need window for wing driverside 1965 bj8 hello Healeyites: had a mishap over the weekend and no longer have a wing window on driver side 1965 bj8, anybody got an extra or know how to go about getting one? is it possible to take frame to a auto glass store and get one? appreciate any advise or insight thanks in advance Bill B Charlotte -- Bill Browning cell: 704-408-2711 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 10:30:10 2009 From: "Al Fuller" To: "'Richard Ewald'" Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:32:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency Hi, Richard: Maybe I'm a little too literal for my own good, but I have to believe that when a business stocks millions of dollars in inventory, sells me a $60,000 vehicle, makes legally binding representations, offers a warranty [perhaps on behalf of the manufacturer - but offers it nonetheless], is responsible for warranty repairs, recalls, etc., and is either the only or at least primary contact between the manufacturer and literally thousands of customers then they meet the definition of a "representative". Anyway - I'm glad to hear that you aren't doing what my dealership is doing: scaring people into needless oil changes. Thanks for the exchange! Al Al Fuller al@bighealey.org '62 BT-7 '65 BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 From: Richard Ewald [mailto:richard.ewald@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:42 AM To: Al Fuller Cc: John Sims; Oudesluys; Dan Stromquist; healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency While you may thing of them as the manufacturer's representatives, they are not. They are independent business that sell and service Toyota cars and trucks. As such then can tell a customer whatever they wish. What the dealer tells the customer often makes the factory unhappy, but there really isn't much they can do about it. Rick (Who used to work for the factory, and now is a service manager at a large dealership) (PS We don't recommend 3K oil services at my store) On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Al Fuller wrote: My Toyota dealer changes my oil. I went in last week, and the new sticker has a 3000 mile interval (as usual). The owner's manual says 7,500 miles. I ignore the sticker and do it at 7,500 (the second trip odometer is great for this...). I hate to think like a lawyer, but there IS an argument that having/allowing manufacturer representatives telling people they need oil changes at less than half of the manufacturer's interval feels fraudulent. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 11:57:15 2009 From: Norman Nock To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:41:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency "oil is cheaper than metal " change your oil when it's dirty ________________________________ From: Al Fuller To: John Sims ; Oudesluys ; Dan Stromquist Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 6:26:25 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency My Toyota dealer changes my oil. I went in last week, and the new sticker has a 3000 mile interval (as usual). The owner's manual says 7,500 miles. I ignore the sticker and do it at 7,500 (the second trip odometer is great for this...). I hate to think like a lawyer, but there IS an argument that having/allowing manufacturer representatives telling people they need oil changes at less than half of the manufacturer's interval feels fraudulent. Al Fuller al@bighealey.org '62 BT-7 '65 BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:44 PM To: 'Oudesluys'; 'Dan Stromquist' Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change Frequency I have often wondered about that. Years ago, it was recommended to change every 1,000 miles. Now new car manufacturers recommend every 7,500. But, the quick change guys such as Jiffy Lube still put stickers on your car saying to change every 3,000 miles. Since the car manufacturer holds my 10 year 100,000 mile power train warranty, I am following his directions. Now, with an older engine, who really knows? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sjnnock@sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 12:42:54 2009 From: I Erbs To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:51:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil pan Looking for a oil pan 3000MKI. Mine is very dented. Would like a better one. Posted this before and got advice on how to fix. May go that route. But replacement. Is easy. I Erbs Sent from my iPod _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 14:19:46 2009 From: richard mayor To: , , healeys Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:22:11 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change Walt, I just weighed two front hubs for a 3000. The wire wheel hub with knock-off weighs just over 7 pounds. The disc wheel hub weighs just over 7 pounds. They weigh the same! And, I can guarantee you that a splined mini-lite wheel will weigh a lot more that a bolt on mini-lite wheel. The major obstacle to changing from wires to disc wheels is finding a set of 3000 front hubs. However, I do have a set for sale. Contact me off list if you are interested. Richard Mayor _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 18:01:14 2009 From: editorgary@aol.com To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:40:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change intervals, redux Now, with an older engine, who really knows? This answer is easy: Most oil specialists will concur that it's not a good idea to leave oil sitting in an engine for more than 12 months. With our "older engines" it doesn't really matter how many miles can be driven before doing an oil change. Instead, what matters is the time interval, and my understanding of all the technical information is that oil should be changed at a minimum of every 12 months, because otherwise it gets gummy, corroded, corrupted, or whatever, and eventually does bad things to the engine, either by sitting there or by being used after sitting there. So, in the Healey, change the oil once a year just before the point when the car is going to sit the longest (for most of us, that means in late fall) before being used again. If you do drive your car more than a few thousand miles a year, you might contemplate changing the filter more frequently. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. Best Gary - _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 18:02:46 2009 From: David Nock To: Bill B Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:59 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] need window for wing driverside 1965 bj8 Bill we have some used vent windows availavle. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Nov 8, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Bill B wrote: > hello Healeyites: > had a mishap over the weekend and no longer have a wing window on > driver > side 1965 bj8, anybody got an extra or know how to go about getting > one? is > it possible to take frame to a auto glass store and get one? > > appreciate any advise or insight > > thanks in advance > > Bill B > Charlotte > > -- > Bill Browning > cell: 704-408-2711 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc@verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 18:02:58 2009 From: David Nock To: I Erbs Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:05:14 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil pan We have about 20 used 6 cylinder oil pans and they all have some sort of damage to them. If you want give me a call at the shop on Monday am and we can see if we have one that is in better condition than yours. We also have new steel and aluminium pans available. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Nov 8, 2009, at 10:51 AM, I Erbs wrote: > Looking for a oil pan 3000MKI. Mine is very dented. Would like a > better one. Posted this before and got advice on how to fix. May > go that route. But replacement. Is easy. > > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc@verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 8 21:41:35 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: editorgary@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:37:01 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Change intervals, redux One of the advantages of the synthetics is they stand up much better when not in use, and won't gum up or varnish when they sit. So if you don't drive your call all that much, I suggest that using synthetics will make a big difference here. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 AM, wrote: > Now, > with > an older engine, who really knows? > > > > This answer is easy: Most oil specialists will concur that it's not a good > idea to leave oil sitting in an engine for more than 12 months. With our > "older engines" it doesn't really matter how many miles can be driven > before > doing an oil change. Instead, what matters is the time interval, and my > understanding of all the technical information is that oil should be > changed > at a minimum of every 12 months, because otherwise it gets gummy, corroded, > corrupted, or whatever, and eventually does bad things to the engine, > either > by sitting there or by being used after sitting there. > > So, in the Healey, change the oil once a year just before the point when > the > car is going to sit the longest (for most of us, that means in late fall) > before being used again. If you do drive your car more than a few thousand > miles a year, you might contemplate changing the filter more frequently. > > That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. > > Best > Gary _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 01:25:30 2009 From: Jaap Aeckerlin To: Bill Poff , Healey forum Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:26:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Louvered 100 bonnet And for Europeans on the list needing some more air: a guy by the name of Toon Spitters in Gemert, The Netherlands, presses louvres. If one needs more address details, please contact me off list. Regards, Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/11/7 Bill Poff > A few years ago I remember that someone on the list had invested in louver > dies to press the original 100M louvers and was offering this service. > Anyone know if this service is still available and who to contact? > > Bill > 100 > 100M > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 01:26:06 2009 From: "Thomas Willig" To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:27:56 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. Thanks Thomas Willig _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 02:54:21 2009 From: To: , Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:19:11 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Thomas, I use Silicone DOT5 brake fluid in my 100 (as in any of my other classic cars) for about 10 years. When filled in first I realised a problem with the master cylinder. I had to change the seals in it with new ones, and problem solved. Since I can only recommend to use DOT5. Its the best I have ever done as brakes are concerned. No mess with leaking and paint eating brake fluid anymore. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Thomas Willig Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2009 08:28 An: healeys@autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. Thanks Thomas Willig _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 03:27:39 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Thomas Willig Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:34:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg Goodridge. Kees Oudesluijs NL Thomas Willig schreef: > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid > in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some > modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can > anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2490 - Release Date: 11/08/09 19:39:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 06:40:53 2009 From: Tom Felts To: Thomas Willig , Oudesluys Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 6:54:13 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. tom ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg Goodridge. Kees Oudesluijs NL Thomas Willig schreef: > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid > in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some > modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can > anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2490 - Release Date: 11/08/09 19:39:00 Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 08:05:03 2009 From: To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:13:16 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Concours correct tool/jack/jack handle bags This is more for the Concours guys. Where can i get a new concours correct tool/jack/jack handle bags for a Healey 100? Supplied bags here in Europe are of a material which are close to toneau cover material, but not as the original bags. Many thanks, Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 08:05:49 2009 From: "Ed Woods" To: "Thomas Willig" , Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:35:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Precisely none. Silcone fluid in my TF and TR3 for over 20 years. Ed Woods _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 08:34:20 2009 From: "Guy R Day" To: "Tom Felts" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:37:41 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Tom, I'm with Kees Oudesluys on this. You are a lucky guy, 'cause in all other cars where I have seen the results of mixed fluids the rubber swells, goes very soft and wrinkles because of the swelling. It will wear, score and even stick on the bores of the cylinders. The brakes fail when you are pressing the brake pedal. Normally they will fail when you are pressing harder than usual, just when you need your brakes more than usual. However, if it has worked for you, keep on praying to the same God you've been praying to for years. btw. Which God is it? - I'll convert.... Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Thomas Willig" ; "Oudesluys" Cc: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is > different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 > and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not > a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, > callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the > rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg > Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Thomas Willig schreef: >> Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid >> in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some >> modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can >> anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. >> >> Thanks >> >> Thomas Willig >> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 08:34:49 2009 From: Oudesluys To: twillig@ruda.de Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:40:23 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Although DOT5 has its advantages in: -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for DOT5.1) -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic -higher dry and wet boiling point -long life there are also some negative sides to it: -little or no water absorpsion -slightly spongy brake pedal, hence the recommendation to use Teflon SS-braided brake hoses. You will always get some condensation in the brake fluid reservoir and the fluid will also absorb water from the air, even right through the seals. With DOT5 this is to a far lesser degree and eventually water can end up as droplets in the lower regions of the brake system, often in the callipers or brake cilinders, causing havoc. Because of the durability of DOT5 most people tend not to change the fluid regularly, thus the water will not be expelled from the system and this will be the cause of corrosion in the end. DOT3, DOT4 or DOT5.1 is less compressible than DOT5 and will absorb the moisture thus preventing corrosion to a certain point but also the boiling point will be getting to low. That is the reason it should be replaced every 1-3 years, depending on conditions. You can mix DOT4 and 5.1 with DOT3, but you should never top up DOT4 with DOT3 or DOT5.1 with DOT4/DOT3. You cannot mix DOT5 with DOT3/4/5.1. There is also DOT6 but that is for militairy applications only. I know of a lot of people preferring DOT5. I prefer DOT 4 or 5.1 because of its incompressability and water absoption as I am living in a country with often a high humidity. I change the brake fluid in all my cars every 2 years. Kees Oudesluijs NL > Since I can only recommend to use DOT5. Its the best I have ever done as > brakes are concerned. No mess with leaking and paint eating brake fluid > anymore. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > Betreff: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid in the > 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some modifications to the > brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can anybody tell me precisely > what these modifications were?. > > Thomas Willig _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 08:36:14 2009 From: Tom Felts To: Guy R Day Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 8:35:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 More than me who are lucky. I've known several Healey and Jag folks (including me)who dumped the DOT 4 and put in the DOT 5 directly in with NO resulting problems at all. ---- Guy R Day wrote: ============= Tom, I'm with Kees Oudesluys on this. You are a lucky guy, 'cause in all other cars where I have seen the results of mixed fluids the rubber swells, goes very soft and wrinkles because of the swelling. It will wear, score and even stick on the bores of the cylinders. The brakes fail when you are pressing the brake pedal. Normally they will fail when you are pressing harder than usual, just when you need your brakes more than usual. However, if it has worked for you, keep on praying to the same God you've been praying to for years. btw. Which God is it? - I'll convert.... Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Thomas Willig" ; "Oudesluys" Cc: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is > different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 > and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not > a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, > callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the > rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg > Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Thomas Willig schreef: >> Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid >> in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some >> modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can >> anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. >> >> Thanks >> >> Thomas Willig >> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 08:37:00 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Tom Felts Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:47:03 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Tom, You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. You may have been extremely lucky. Kees Oudesluijs Tom Felts schreef: > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, > callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the > rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg > Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 09:38:03 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:41:33 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M on ebay? Well, you had better correct your signature then!! :) ( to "100 M" instead of "100M" ) So, what does that mean? That car was sent back to the factory for the mods??? > From: Healey100M@gmail.com > > Oh, just to further muddy the water, my Heritage Certificate states: > > "The B.M.I.H.T can confirm that this car is a genuine, factory built > Austin Healey 100 M "Le Mans"." > > Le Mans being in quotes and a space between Le & Mans. > > Doesn't that help? :-) > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M "Le Mans" > '55 BN1 Dealer "Le Mans" > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 11:05:04 2009 From: David Hall To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:11:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] DR2 DR3A Wiper Motors Would anybody who has wiring diagrams for both wiper motors be kind enough to forward a copy of the drawing or a schematic to me. Regards David Hall _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 11:33:35 2009 From: Walt Peterson To: Healeys@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:48:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 3ooo: wires to discs: Thanks for all the input/expertese on the proposed swap. Still making the decision but all the help will make it a more intelligent decision. Walt P. PS My next question is-- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 11:33:56 2009 From: Walt Peterson To: Healeys@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:54:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 3000 cylinder head ques: What is the nominal thickness of a cylinder head? I have a chance to pick up a head that has been "cut" to 3.567" . My guy doesn't know what the machinest started with, to wit. I'd like to know the standard spec. & can't find it in my Haynes Thanks in advance, Walt BT7 Albatross Jabro-Buick Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 12:02:16 2009 From: Tom To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:20:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio With the driving season coming to an end in this corner of the planet, I'm looking for a couple of winter projects. Does anyone have a schematic for the BMC AM radio in a BJ8? I'm not interested in replacing it with a modern vintage-looking radio, I'd just like to fix the one I have. thanks, Tom _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 13:11:03 2009 From: To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:10:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Most of my friends use DOT5 and half of them just put DOT 4 out, cleaned a bit and filled in DOT 5 and it worked and still works for 100000nd of miles. I changed it in my cars when restored a car. So brake system was free of DOT4. For me the positive aspects of DOT5 are much more valuable than the small risk of spongy brakes I may have but never realised on 3 different classic cars. You can have brake problems also with DOT4 and even more if you do not change this stuff every 2 years. So what, there is always a risk to drive a car which is not up to date with current safety standards. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Oudesluys Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2009 15:47 An: Tom Felts Cc: healeys@autox.team.net; Thomas Willig Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Tom, You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. You may have been extremely lucky. Kees Oudesluijs Tom Felts schreef: > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel > cilinders, callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and > renew/replace the rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS > braiding items from eg Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 13:12:32 2009 From: David Nock To: Walt Peterson Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:18:19 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Wheel Change Walt , the conversion to Disc wheels requires several parts. We are in the process of pulling apart a wreck that is a disc wheel car it has the parts you would need to do the conversion. front hubs, rear drums, rear hubs with long studs. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 7, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Walt Peterson wrote: > > What would it entail switching from wires to disc-type wheels? I > like the > wires but after 40 plus years the splines & hubs are worn. I also > like the > mini lite look & the saving of unsprung weight, the relative > simplicity, etc. > Seems a spacer & some longer studs might work in the back, not sure > about the > front. There are more and more events with vintage-friendly rules, > and the > wheels would help there, too. What knowledge/experience do you have? > > Thanks, > > Walt > > BT 7 > Albatross > Jabro-buick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc@sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 13:12:55 2009 From: "Freese, Ken" To: "Tom" , Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:21:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio Sam's photo facts is the usual place to go for home radio schematics. You might try there for the car radios. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 13:16:50 2009 From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: Josef.Eckert@t-systems.com Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:31:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Concours correct tool/jack/jack handle bags Josef, Contact Roger Moment on the Concours Committee. He make very nice and correct tool roll bags plus the jack bag and jack handle bag. He can also help you with any tool issues since Roger is quite knowledgeable on the stock tools supplied with the cars as well as the BMC aftermarket supplemental tool kits. I have one of these aftermarket tool kits for my 100 which includes a set of four AF Spanners as well as pliers, an F style girder adjustable spanner, cross head screwdriver, AF tube spanner, and a tommy bar. Roger can be reached at... "Roger Moment" Cheers, Curt Arndt -AH Concoures Committee Carlsbad, CA '55 BN1, '60 AN5 :{) '06 Cooper S On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:13 AM, wrote: > This is more for the Concours guys. > Where can i get a new concours correct tool/jack/jack handle bags for a > Healey 100? > Supplied bags here in Europe are of a material which are close to toneau > cover material, but not as the original bags. > Many thanks, > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/GERMANY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt@gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 13:50:44 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Tom Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:56:12 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio Tom, If you can find the make and type number of the radio (usually on the back or top of the metal housing) it is very likely that it will show results on Google. Some time ago I did the same for an old Philips car radio and an antique Marconiphone V2 radio. The results were astonishing, especially for the latter. Kees Oudesluijs NL Tom schreef: > With the driving season coming to an end in this corner of the planet, > I'm looking for a couple of winter projects. Does anyone have a > schematic for the BMC AM radio in a BJ8? I'm not interested in > replacing it with a modern vintage-looking radio, I'd just like to fix > the one I have. > > thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 14:14:18 2009 From: Richard Ewald To: Oudesluys Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:17:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. I have never heard this before. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. > You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the > system will leak like a sieve. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 14:14:49 2009 From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:32:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio Hi, Tom - I Googled "Sams Photo Facts" and got to their website. I had no luck finding anything there by searching for "BMC radio" or "BMC" or "British". Maybe if you have a model or other number from the radio you'll have more luck. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Freese, Ken Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:22 PM To: Tom; healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio Sam's photo facts is the usual place to go for home radio schematics. You might try there for the car radios. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sbyers@ec.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 14:15:23 2009 From: To: , Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:45:14 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Price, Most times we just used an air compressor to pump plenty of air through the system. If you are careful you may clean and dry the master and wheel cylinders separately. One of my more careful friends used some brake cleaner fluid and pumped it through the system before filled with DOT5. My experience is, that in case the rubbers swell, they swell during first 24-48 hours when filled with the DOT5. When the brake pedal is still firm after 48 hours, all is fine. Otherwise it was always the master cylinder which failed. New rubbers/seals there always solved this. Disclaimer: That's just my experience. Josef Eckert 54BN1, 62BT7, 65Sprite -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: R. Price Lindsay [mailto:price@advocateadvisors.com] Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2009 21:24 An: Eckert, Josef Betreff: RE: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Josef - You note that you just clean out the old Dot4. Is there a product you use or just drain the system, pump some air through it and fill it with Dot5? Price Lindsay '67 BJ 8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 14:48:45 2009 From: andy pole To: , Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:09:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] DR2 DR3A Wiper Motors David not sure if this helps, but I had a problem with mine and had to figure it out: http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/healeys/2009-05/msg00474.html I also have a Lucas fault finding booklet on my website that gives info, but they add a plug for test purposes, the wire colour codes are different but it shouldnt be hard to transpose the info, see page 42: http://www.austin-healey3000.com/LucasFaultDiagnosisServiceManual.pdf cheers Andy _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 15:20:58 2009 From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:29:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Since alcohol is hygroscopic (absorbs water), when I switched from DOT 3 to DOT 5, after draining the DOT3 I flushed a couple quarts of isopropyl rubbing alcohol through my brake and clutch systems before refilling with DOT 5. The thought was that the alcohol will flush out whatever moisture might be in the system. I never had a problem with leaks or anything else with the brake and clutch systems afterwards. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Josef.Eckert@t-systems.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:45 PM To: price@advocateadvisors.com; healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Price, Most times we just used an air compressor to pump plenty of air through the system. If you are careful you may clean and dry the master and wheel cylinders separately. One of my more careful friends used some brake cleaner fluid and pumped it through the system before filled with DOT5. My experience is, that in case the rubbers swell, they swell during first 24-48 hours when filled with the DOT5. When the brake pedal is still firm after 48 hours, all is fine. Otherwise it was always the master cylinder which failed. New rubbers/seals there always solved this. Disclaimer: That's just my experience. Josef Eckert 54BN1, 62BT7, 65Sprite _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 15:21:26 2009 From: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:31:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 I've only seen anecdotal evidence of the so-called degradation of existing rubber seals by changing to silicone fluids. Many sources say there is no worry at all. Others say that external parts like boot seals are susceptable to the silicone fluids. Some sources even list the Dot 3-4 fluids as being "compatible" with Dot 5 (silicone) Go figure. Wilko On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is > this something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to > know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or >> 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins@cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 15:22:11 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Richard Ewald Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:33:07 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 It is something that everyone should know. Ask producers and restorers. Google. I am sure that there are proper research results somewhere. I do not need them as I have seen it happen several times. It may be that people who claim to have had no advers results have used DOT5.1 (a polyalcyleen glycol aether) and not DOT5 (a silicon fluid), two entirely different and incompatible fluids. DOT5.1 is compatible with DOT4 but has similar higher specs (dry and wet boiling points) as DOT5. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Ewald schreef: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this > something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. >> You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 15:22:33 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Tom Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:38:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio Tom, If it is a factory fitted item two makers come to the surface, Pye and Motorola/Smiths/Lucas, but there may be others. You could try to trace these makes on the internet and see if you can find a model that is identical to yours. I think I have a Motorola lying about somewhere. If you send me a picture of your unit I could compare it with a few I have in my junk boxes. Kees Oudesluijs NL Tom schreef: > With the driving season coming to an end in this corner of the planet, > I'm looking for a couple of winter projects. Does anyone have a > schematic for the BMC AM radio in a BJ8? I'm not interested in > replacing it with a modern vintage-looking radio, I'd just like to fix > the one I have. > > thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 15:24:37 2009 From: Richard Dryman To: BJ8 Healeys , healeys@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:42:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio I went to Google, Sams and everywhere else--no luck on Panasonic #CR002,AM/FM,chassis#50244, with the 2 FM buttons on the left. Anyone having anything on that would interest. ________________________________ I Googled "Sams Photo Facts" and got to their website. I had no luck finding anything there by searching for "BMC radio" or "BMC" or "British". Maybe if you have a model or other number from the radio you'll have more luck. Steve Byers _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 15:58:45 2009 From: Tom Felts To: Oudesluys Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:47:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. tom ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= Tom, You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. You may have been extremely lucky. Kees Oudesluijs Tom Felts schreef: > ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, > callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the > rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg > Goodridge. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 16:01:27 2009 From: Tom Felts To: twillig@ruda.de, Oudesluys Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:52:37 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 less water absorption is a negative??? And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= Although DOT5 has its advantages in: -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for DOT5.1) -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic -higher dry and wet boiling point -long life there are also some negative sides to it: -little or no water absorpsion -slightly spongy brake pedal, hence the recommendation to use Teflon SS-braided brake hoses. You will always get some condensation in the brake fluid reservoir and the fluid will also absorb water from the air, even right through the seals. With DOT5 this is to a far lesser degree and eventually water can end up as droplets in the lower regions of the brake system, often in the callipers or brake cilinders, causing havoc. Because of the durability of DOT5 most people tend not to change the fluid regularly, thus the water will not be expelled from the system and this will be the cause of corrosion in the end. DOT3, DOT4 or DOT5.1 is less compressible than DOT5 and will absorb the moisture thus preventing corrosion to a certain point but also the boiling point will be getting to low. That is the reason it should be replaced every 1-3 years, depending on conditions. You can mix DOT4 and 5.1 with DOT3, but you should never top up DOT4 with DOT3 or DOT5.1 with DOT4/DOT3. You cannot mix DOT5 with DOT3/4/5.1. There is also DOT6 but that is for militairy applications only. I know of a lot of people preferring DOT5. I prefer DOT 4 or 5.1 because of its incompressability and water absoption as I am living in a country with often a high humidity. I change the brake fluid in all my cars every 2 years. Kees Oudesluijs NL > Since I can only recommend to use DOT5. Its the best I have ever done as > brakes are concerned. No mess with leaking and paint eating brake fluid > anymore. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany > Betreff: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid in the > 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some modifications to the > brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can anybody tell me precisely > what these modifications were?. > > Thomas Willig Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 16:02:18 2009 From: Tom Felts To: Richard Ewald , Oudesluys Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:09:34 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 The bottle of DOT 5 that I used in my cars years ago warns to not use it in brake systems containing DOT 3/4. It does not say what will happen. My guess is that if you drain the old 3/4 fluid out pretty good before adding 5, you will be OK. A few drops of DOT 3/4 in a system full of DOT 5 is probably not enough to do any harm----so as to "changing" all components before adding 5 to a previously 3/4 system, I think that is overkill---and that is only based on a bunch of people's comments who just drained the 3/4 and added the 5 and have used it w/0 problems for years---including me. tom ---- Richard Ewald wrote: ============= Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. I have never heard this before. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. > You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the > system will leak like a sieve. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 16:02:45 2009 From: Tom Felts To: Richard Ewald , Oudesluys Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:10:38 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Absolutely not-----mine is DEFINITELY DOT 5. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= It is something that everyone should know. Ask producers and restorers. Google. I am sure that there are proper research results somewhere. I do not need them as I have seen it happen several times. It may be that people who claim to have had no advers results have used DOT5.1 (a polyalcyleen glycol aether) and not DOT5 (a silicon fluid), two entirely different and incompatible fluids. DOT5.1 is compatible with DOT4 but has similar higher specs (dry and wet boiling points) as DOT5. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Ewald schreef: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this > something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. >> You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 16:40:13 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Tom Felts Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:28:09 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Did you use DOT 5 or DOT5.1? DOT5.1 does not have any advers effects on systems with DOT4 previously. If the rubbers do react they do so rather quickly. They may go soft and may not leak if not enough pressure is applied but can fail when high pressure is exerted. Appearantly it does not always happen when the system is thoroughly cleaned, according to some experiences of the list, although it is not clear if this concerns DOT5.1 or DOT5. I have seen several instances when DOT 4 was replaced with DOT5, that the brake system failed spectacularly and the need of a rebuild of the system /replacement of rubber parts was eminent. I would not take any chances with my brake system. Kees Oudesluijs Tom Felts schreef: > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: > >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 16:40:45 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Richard Dryman Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:36:52 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio Try ebay for a while. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Dryman schreef: > I went to Google, Sams and everywhere else--no luck on Panasonic > #CR002,AM/FM,chassis#50244, with the 2 FM buttons on the left. Anyone having > anything on that would interest. > > > > > ________________________________ > > I > Googled "Sams Photo Facts" and got to their website. I had no luck > finding > anything there by searching for "BMC radio" or "BMC" or "British". > Maybe if > you have a model or other number from the radio you'll have more > luck. > > Steve > Byers _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 16:41:25 2009 From: "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" To: "'Stuart Thompson'" , , Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:58:25 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio << Sam's photo facts >> Yep, best hope. Also I do think [NO proof] the BMC units are identical to the Motorola one. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 17:08:54 2009 From: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" To: "Deikis, John G" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:06:11 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. Wilko On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > less water absorption is a negative??? > > And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so > strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not happened > to me in a very long time of silicone use. > > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Although DOT5 has its advantages in: > > -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for > DOT5.1) > -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic > -higher dry and wet boiling point > -long life _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 17:57:16 2009 From: "Rich C" To: "Tom Felts" , "Oudesluys" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:48:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 We're really flogging this one again. However I will state that we always completely rebuild all brake components, cylinders, hoses, everything, flush and blow out the old lines to introduce DOT 5 Silicone fluid to any system we work on. One particularly noteworthy occurrence took place about a year after we did a complete job. It was on a Mk 1 Sprite and the owner had taken the car to a local garage for a regular service. Some young employee in the shop had topped up all fluids, including the hydraulic reservoir. He'd use DOT 3 fluid for the top up. Within 2 weeks the owner was experiencing poor clutch pedal, sluggish return and slight leakage at the clutch slave cylinder. We found the problem, completely flushed everything again with silicone fluid, rebuilt the slave and it's been all right now for the last 5 years. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Oudesluys" Cc: ; "Thomas Willig" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the > two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts > or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I > still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is >> different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 >> and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not >> a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler@quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 17:58:10 2009 From: "Bob Yule" To: "Tom Felts" , "Oudesluys" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:51:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 The problem with DOT 5 silicone fluid is that it is not compatible with natural rubber. In older systems, many of them had natural rubber seals and the DOT 5 fluid makes them go spongy and leak. DOT 3/4 and DOT 5 fluids will not mix, so you finish up with separate layers of fluids in the brake system. Draining a system that has neoprene or synthetic rubber seals and then refilling with DOT 5 should not cause any adverse effects. However, we always rinse the system with alcohol before changing to a different fluid. Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Oudesluys" Cc: ; "Thomas Willig" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the > two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts > or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I > still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is >> different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 >> and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not >> a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as autofarm@cyg.net > > http://www.team.net/archive -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.57/2492 - Release Date: 11/09/09 12:11:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 18:44:02 2009 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Eric \(Rick\) Wilkins" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:18:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but cant see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system limited surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, Count me as one who converted without doing more than blowing out the sytem with air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any difference in pedal feel. Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 18:45:33 2009 From: "Dave Porter" To: "'Tom Felts'" , "'Richard Ewald'" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 What color is it? dave frogeye@porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Felts Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:11 PM To: Richard Ewald; Oudesluys Cc: healeys@autox.team.net; Thomas Willig Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Absolutely not-----mine is DEFINITELY DOT 5. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= It is something that everyone should know. Ask producers and restorers. Google. I am sure that there are proper research results somewhere. I do not need them as I have seen it happen several times. It may be that people who claim to have had no advers results have used DOT5.1 (a polyalcyleen glycol aether) and not DOT5 (a silicon fluid), two entirely different and incompatible fluids. DOT5.1 is compatible with DOT4 but has similar higher specs (dry and wet boiling points) as DOT5. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Ewald schreef: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this > something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. >> You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye@porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 18:45:56 2009 From: "Quinn, Patrick" To: "'Awgertoo@aol.com'" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:24:03 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay G'day Michael Oh dear! Been away in the depths of Victoria for a few days and I come back to the biggest faux pas of them all. I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original design it is still an Austin-Healey. Generally real Healeys were built between 1946 and 1954 and were fitted with Riley, Alvis or Nash engines. Plus the late 1960s/early 1970s did see a handful of real Healeys fitted with BMC, Coventry Climax and Repco engines. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Awgertoo@aol.com Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 12:51 AM To: coudesluijs@chello.nl; tadeusz.malkiewicz@plusnet.pl Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Keese-- You have it backwards: The proper spelling IS "Austin (Hyphen) Healey". Only when some badge supplier screwed up and the factory saw an opportunity to save some $$ by accepting badges that said "Austin (NO HYPHEN) Healey" did such a badge appear on an AH. Besides, the badges on all 100's are hyphenated and as we know 100's are the REAL Healeys. Best--Michael Oritt ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 18:46:21 2009 From: David Nock To: "Eric \(Rick\) Wilkins" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:31:07 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 This comes up about every 6 months or so and all I will say is that if you purchase a Girling cylinder or kit in the instructions it clearly states that if you use Silicone fluid your warranty is VOID. On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of > the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. > > The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of > suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts > leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. > > Wilko > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > >> less water absorption is a negative??? >> >> And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so >> strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not >> happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. >> >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Although DOT5 has its advantages in: >> >> -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for >> DOT5.1) >> -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic >> -higher dry and wet boiling point >> -long life > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc@sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 18:48:37 2009 From: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" To: "Councill, David" , Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:46:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 That moisture "issue" is, at best, overblown by almost everyone. Particulate contamination from use will wreck your fluid faster than anything. On Nov 9, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get > into the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you > might get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any > appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, > likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but > cant see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system > limited surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, > Count me as one who converted without doing more than blowing out > the sytem with air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any > difference in pedal feel. > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 19:31:09 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:04:29 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Eric / Rick - This happened to me in 1987 with my BJ8 when I tried to switch to Dot 5 (it was purple color). All my seals went bad and I had to rebuild my complete brake system. I think the new silicone fluids are much better at matching the swelling characteristics of Dot 3/4, so probably less of a problem now. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > I've only seen anecdotal evidence of the so-called degradation of existing > rubber seals by changing to silicone fluids. > > Many sources say there is no worry at all. Others say that external parts > like boot seals are susceptable to the silicone fluids. > > Some sources even list the Dot 3-4 fluids as being "compatible" with Dot 5 > (silicone) > > Go figure. > > Wilko > > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this >> something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. >> I have never heard this before. >> Rick >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: >> >> Tom, >>> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You >>> run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will >>> leak like a sieve. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:09:36 2009 From: 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7@comcast.net> To: Oudesluys Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:52:15 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio Kees: << Try ebay for a while. >> IMHO, he would be WAY ahead by just going to Panasonic !! K.I.S.S. Ed Please visit MY site ay: www.justbrits.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:10:06 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: David Hall Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:52:28 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] DR2 DR3A Wiper Motors David - Anything you've ever wanted to know about the working principles of the DR2 Wiper motor are on pages 14 - 25 here: http://www.healey6.com/Lucas%20Course/Lucas%20technical%20correspondence%20course%20-%20session%208.pdf In addition, a sample wiring circuit is on page 16 here (with wire color): http://www.healey6.com/Lucas%20Course/Lucas%20technical%20correspondence%20course%20-%20session%206.pdf If you are looking for the wiring diagram for your specific Healey, you should refer to your shop manual. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:11 AM, David Hall wrote: > Would anybody who has wiring diagrams for both wiper motors be kind enough > to > forward a copy of the drawing or a schematic to me. > Regards David Hall _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:10:28 2009 From: To: "healeys@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:52:59 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?silcone_brake_fluid?= when i was stationed in germany, all the military vehicles we had used silicone brake fluid. i drained out the DOT 3 and replaced with silicone. no one told me and i never read where i was supposed to replace anything. i did not even blow out the lines. i kept the silicone in for about 15 years until i actually had to buy it, then quit using it. i do not remember ever having any problem with it at all. hjim _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:10:45 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Greg Lemon Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:56:24 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Hi Greg - Water is normal in the brake system, and Dot 5 floats on water, which means any air humidity or condensation will eventually sink to the bottom of your brakes over time. Probably not much of a risk if you use your car all the time, but probably would be smart to do a partial bleed of brakes every couple of years to purge the system of any potential low sitting water. Dot 3/4 absorbs water, so it's less of an issue from the corrosion standpoint, well atleast if your fluid isn't too old. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into the > system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might get some > condensation but very small volume of air to get any appreciable amount of > air in the system for it to condense out of, likewise some condensation when > the system is open (cap off) but cant see again how an appreciable amount > would get into the system limited surface area (and time) for condensation > to occur. Also, Count me as one who converted without doing more than > blowing out the sytem with air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice > any difference in pedal feel. > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:11:15 2009 From: Editorgary@aol.com To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:57:51 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone (Dot5) andGlycol (Dot 3, 4, 5.1) brake fluids In a message dated 11/9/09 2:23:23 PM, healeys-request@autox.team.net writes: > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or > >> 4. You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the > >> system will leak like a sieve. > Sheesh! it always amazes me when these discussions rear their heads again. The key difference between (unrestored) 100s and later cars is that the early cars used real rubber in the seals and hoses, and later cars used a synthetic mix of rubber and other stuff. All brake fluid is formulated to cause the seals to swell a bit so that they will, well, seal. Silicone fluid uses different additives than glycol fluid, and the additives are not compatible, cancelling one another out, hence the cautions not to mix them, and to flush out the glycol if and when switching to silicone. The additives in silicone don't work on natural rubber, and in fact will cause natural rubber to degrade. So, bottom lines (repeating these for the umpteenth time): If you wish to use silicone fluid in a system that still has its original seals, replace the seals with new ones. If you wish to use silicone in a system that has had glycol in it, flush out the system with e.g. brake cleaner or alcohol. Silicone has the advantages of greater longevity, is not damaging to paint, and is good in cars that are driven infrequently, so every classic car museum of which I'm aware uses silicone fluid in its cars. Glycol has the advantage of providing a firmer pedal, but must be replaced more often, and is very damaging to paint. Glycol and silicone can not be mixed without losing the integrity of the braking system. Even silicone fluid should be bled out and replaced every few years. Cheers Gary _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:11:32 2009 From: "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" To: 4 - MG List , 4 - MG Ts , Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:05:58 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: [Spridgets] Interesting cars for sale] From a pal of mine on the Spridgets List. He IS quite LBC knowledgeable. -------- Original Message -------- So the weird 70 degree temps continued today and I drove the Alfa to work. In my little town of Roscoe IL I drove by an orange Datsun 2000 roadster for sale (rough shape), and 2 miles down the road a white chrome bumpered MGB (nice shape). If anyone has any real interest, let me know and I'll be more than happy to check them out. This is ~90 miles west of Chicago, 45 south of Madison WI. If anybody is interested, lemme know & I'll put you in contact. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:41:37 2009 From: Tom Felts To: Rich C , Oudesluys Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:57:32 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Rich--I'd say there is a big difference in dumping DOT 3 fluid into the silicone system than what little DOT 3/4 is left after draining and then adding silicone. Thus the comparison is not credible--IMO anyway. ---- Rich C wrote: ============= We're really flogging this one again. However I will state that we always completely rebuild all brake components, cylinders, hoses, everything, flush and blow out the old lines to introduce DOT 5 Silicone fluid to any system we work on. One particularly noteworthy occurrence took place about a year after we did a complete job. It was on a Mk 1 Sprite and the owner had taken the car to a local garage for a regular service. Some young employee in the shop had topped up all fluids, including the hydraulic reservoir. He'd use DOT 3 fluid for the top up. Within 2 weeks the owner was experiencing poor clutch pedal, sluggish return and slight leakage at the clutch slave cylinder. We found the problem, completely flushed everything again with silicone fluid, rebuilt the slave and it's been all right now for the last 5 years. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Oudesluys" Cc: ; "Thomas Willig" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the > two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts > or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I > still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is >> different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 >> and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not >> a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler@quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:42:51 2009 From: Tom Felts To: Bob Yule , Oudesluys Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:58:38 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Thanks Bob---I needed that:):):) tom ---- Bob Yule wrote: ============= The problem with DOT 5 silicone fluid is that it is not compatible with natural rubber. In older systems, many of them had natural rubber seals and the DOT 5 fluid makes them go spongy and leak. DOT 3/4 and DOT 5 fluids will not mix, so you finish up with separate layers of fluids in the brake system. Draining a system that has neoprene or synthetic rubber seals and then refilling with DOT 5 should not cause any adverse effects. However, we always rinse the system with alcohol before changing to a different fluid. Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "Oudesluys" Cc: ; "Thomas Willig" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Could someone tell me the chemical products that are made by mixing the > two that supposedly reacts with the rubber seals? To me it either reacts > or it doesn't, and it did not with mine. Now--if it takes 10 years, I > still have a couple to go. Maybe I haven't waited long enough. > > tom > > ---- Oudesluys wrote: > > ============= > Tom, > You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. You > run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the system will > leak like a sieve. Thus you have to replace all the seals and hoses (and > clean out the rest of the system of course). This goes for any car. > You may have been extremely lucky. > Kees Oudesluijs > > Tom Felts schreef: >> ??????? Why is this true for the 100 and not other versions? What is >> different about the rubber components in the 100? I put DOT 5 in my BJ8 >> and E-Type years ago and did nothing beforehand with the components. Not >> a leak or brake problem since. >> >> tom >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Replace all rubber parts. Effectively rebuilt all your wheel cilinders, >> callipers, master brake cilinder using new seals and renew/replace the >> rubber brake hoses, preferrably with Teflon SS braiding items from eg >> Goodridge. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as autofarm@cyg.net > > http://www.team.net/archive -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.57/2492 - Release Date: 11/09/09 12:11:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:43:19 2009 From: Tom Felts To: 'Richard Ewald' , Dave Porter Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:01:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 purple ---- Dave Porter wrote: ============= What color is it? dave frogeye@porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Felts Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:11 PM To: Richard Ewald; Oudesluys Cc: healeys@autox.team.net; Thomas Willig Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Absolutely not-----mine is DEFINITELY DOT 5. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= It is something that everyone should know. Ask producers and restorers. Google. I am sure that there are proper research results somewhere. I do not need them as I have seen it happen several times. It may be that people who claim to have had no advers results have used DOT5.1 (a polyalcyleen glycol aether) and not DOT5 (a silicon fluid), two entirely different and incompatible fluids. DOT5.1 is compatible with DOT4 but has similar higher specs (dry and wet boiling points) as DOT5. Kees Oudesluijs NL Richard Ewald schreef: > Do you have any kind of authoritative cite for this claim, or is this > something that everyone just "knows"? Inquiring minds want to know. > I have never heard this before. > Rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:47, Oudesluys wrote: > >> Tom, >> You should never fill up with DOT5 if you previously used DOT3 or 4. >> You run the very serious risk that the seals will perish and the >> system will leak like a sieve. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye@porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 20:43:41 2009 From: Tom Felts To: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" , David Nock Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:04:20 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Don't suppose they said why? Are we to assume why? ---- David Nock wrote: ============= This comes up about every 6 months or so and all I will say is that if you purchase a Girling cylinder or kit in the instructions it clearly states that if you use Silicone fluid your warranty is VOID. On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of > the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. > > The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of > suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts > leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. > > Wilko > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > >> less water absorption is a negative??? >> >> And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so >> strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not >> happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. >> >> >> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >> >> ============= >> Although DOT5 has its advantages in: >> >> -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for >> DOT5.1) >> -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic >> -higher dry and wet boiling point >> -long life > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc@sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts@windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 21:24:05 2009 From: To: Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:27:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] silcone brake fluid - Sideline As a side element to military vehicles using silicone brake fluid, GM had a contract to build a large number of HD crewcab pickups, suburbans, etc for the gov. Since silicone anything is a severe quality issue in the paint areas of the assembly plant, the brake systems were not filled on the assembly line as all the usual trucks were. Instead they built small filling facility out by the rail ship yard about a half a mile away from the assembly building(Flint MI). On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:52:59 +0000, wrote: > when i was stationed in germany, all the military vehicles we had used > silicone brake fluid. i drained out the DOT 3 and replaced with silicone. > no one told me and i never read where i was supposed to replace anything. > i did not even blow out the lines. i kept the silicone in for about 15 > years until i actually had to buy it, then quit using it. i do not > remember ever having any problem with it at all. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ggilliam@usol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 21:56:08 2009 From: "Peter Svilans" To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:44:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio When talking about factory radios, the BJ8 was fitted with different models of Smiths Radiomobile for different years: 1964: manual- model 62 T pushbutton- model 902 T 1965-66: manual- model 72-T pushbutton- model 972 T 1968: manual- model RM 72 pushbutton- model RM 972 Manuals for over 100 models of Radiomobile can be bought from: http://www.savoy-hill.co.uk/ You pay, then get a link to their download page by email. Best Peter _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 9 22:41:58 2009 From: "John Snyder" To: "Walt Peterson" , Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:26:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 cylinder head ques: To the best of my knowledge, a stock head is 3.685". I have two heads that have been around for years and that is what they measure.. John Snyder > > What is the nominal thickness of a cylinder head? I have a chance to pick > up a > head that has been "cut" to 3.567" . My guy doesn't know what the > machinest > started with, to wit. I'd like to know the standard spec. & can't find it > in > my Haynes > > Thanks in advance, > > Walt > > BT7 > Albatross > Jabro-Buick _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 01:20:57 2009 From: To: , Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:44:43 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Patrick, You may have to add: Austin-Healeys were built by BMC in Longbridge and Abingdon and not by Healey, except the first 20. So we may have to call them badge engineered MGs. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Quinn, Patrick Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. November 2009 01:24 An: 'Awgertoo@aol.com' Cc: healeys@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] E bay G'day Michael Oh dear! Been away in the depths of Victoria for a few days and I come back to the biggest faux pas of them all. I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original design it is still an Austin-Healey. Generally real Healeys were built between 1946 and 1954 and were fitted with Riley, Alvis or Nash engines. Plus the late 1960s/early 1970s did see a handful of real Healeys fitted with BMC, Coventry Climax and Repco engines. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 01:52:19 2009 From: John Harper To: "Quinn, Patrick" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:07:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Patrick I am about to say something with a cheeky smile on my face. One could say that that only the early BN1s with the spiral bevel, 4 stud rear axle were true Austin-Healeys. After that BMC major units replaced the Austin. By the time that the last 3000 was manufactured the cars should have been badged BMC-Healey! Regards > >Oh dear! Been away in the depths of Victoria for a few days and I come back to >the biggest faux pas of them all. > >I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL >Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. > >While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original >design it is still an Austin-Healey. > >Generally real Healeys were built between 1946 and 1954 and were fitted with >Riley, Alvis or Nash engines. Plus the late 1960s/early 1970s did see a >handful of real Healeys fitted with BMC, Coventry Climax and Repco engines. > >Hoo Roo > >Patrick Quinn -- John Harper _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 02:21:32 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Josef.Eckert@t-systems.com Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:23:38 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Josef - To say such a thing is *verboten*! If you mention MG again we'll have you drawn and quartered. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM, wrote: > Patrick, > You may have to add: Austin-Healeys were built by BMC in Longbridge and > Abingdon and not by Healey, except the first 20. > So we may have to call them badge engineered MGs. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/GERMANY _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 02:21:55 2009 From: To: , Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:39:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Alan, Here we are seriously thinking to have events together with our ".."-friends. Two weeks ago there was a meeting ".."-Club/Austin-Healey Club officials to have a ".."/Healey-Weekend organised next year. Here often people own cars of both marques and what we want is to meet same minded people, not looking what kind of car they own. So we have them really as close friends sharing the same hobby. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY ________________________________ Von: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. November 2009 09:24 An: Eckert, Josef Cc: Patrick.Quinn@det.nsw.edu.au; Healeys@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] E bay Josef - To say such a thing is verboten! If you mention MG again we'll have you drawn and quartered. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM, wrote: Patrick, You may have to add: Austin-Healeys were built by BMC in Longbridge and Abingdon and not by Healey, except the first 20. So we may have to call them badge engineered MGs. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 02:22:26 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Josef.Eckert@t-systems.com Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:38 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Josef - I was joking! I used to have an MGB. I sold it because it was about as fast as an Isetta... don't tell the MGB owners about how I had to replace the rubber A-arm bushings every 3000 miles or so... or how it caught on fire because the carbs were conveniently placed over the catalytic converter... Fun!! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, wrote: > Alan, > Here we are seriously thinking to have events together with our > ".."-friends. Two weeks ago there was a meeting ".."-Club/Austin-Healey > Club officials to have a ".."/Healey-Weekend organised next year. Here often > people own cars of both marques and what we want is to meet same minded > people, not looking what kind of car they own. > So we have them really as close friends sharing the same hobby. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/GERMANY > > ------------------------------ > *Von:* Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com] > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 10. November 2009 09:24 > *An:* Eckert, Josef > *Cc:* Patrick.Quinn@det.nsw.edu.au; Healeys@autox.team.net > > *Betreff:* Re: [Healeys] E bay > > Josef - > > To say such a thing is *verboten*! If you mention MG again we'll have you > drawn and quartered. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 02:53:09 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Dave Porter Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:07:26 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Should be blue. Kees Oudesluijs NL Dave Porter schreef: > What color is it? > dave > > frogeye@porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 02:54:59 2009 From: John Harper To: Josef.Eckert@t-systems.com Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:17:33 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Josef You wouldn't dare say that Longbridge built badge engineered MGs to a long serving Austin apprentice. In fact this is quite untrue. I worked at BMC Service for a while and the rivalry between Austin and Morris apprentices was intense. So much so that it still lingers on with those now retired. Regards >You may have to add: Austin-Healeys were built by BMC in Longbridge and >Abingdon and not by Healey, except the first 20. >So we may have to call them badge engineered MGs. > >Josef Eckert >Konigswinter/GERMANY > > -- John Harper _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 03:25:54 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Greg Lemon Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:23:27 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 The relative humidity inside and outside the brake fluid reservoir is the same as it is in open connection with the outside world even through the small breathing hole. So if you have large differences in temperature during day and night in a humid climate you have some condensation inside the reservoir, especially if the car is parked outside. Granted it is very little but it will add up in time. Kees Oudesluijs NL Greg Lemon schreef: > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into > the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might > get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any > appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, > likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but cant > see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system limited > surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, Count me as > one who converted without doing more than blowing out the sytem with > air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any difference in > pedal feel. > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 03:26:51 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Alan Seigrist Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:35:34 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Austin-Healey made by Jensen. Sorry. Kees Oudesluijs NL _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 04:21:58 2009 From: "Reinhart Rosner \(aon\)" To: "'Oudesluys'" , "'Greg Lemon'" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:35:17 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 And as all bad things that you do not want in your car it easier gets in than out. Reinhart Reinhart Rosner 55 AH 100 BN1 Vienna - Austria -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Oudesluys Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. November 2009 10:23 An: Greg Lemon Cc: Healeys List Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 The relative humidity inside and outside the brake fluid reservoir is the same as it is in open connection with the outside world even through the small breathing hole. So if you have large differences in temperature during day and night in a humid climate you have some condensation inside the reservoir, especially if the car is parked outside. Granted it is very little but it will add up in time. Kees Oudesluijs NL Greg Lemon schreef: > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into > the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might > get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any > appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, > likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but cant > see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system limited > surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, Count me as > one who converted without doing more than blowing out the sytem with > air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any difference in > pedal feel. > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as aon.912808691@aon.at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 05:51:59 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Alan Seigrist Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:57:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay MGB and a catalitic converter? Tell me more. Kees Oudesluijs NL Alan Seigrist schreef: > Josef - > > I was joking! > > I used to have an MGB. I sold it because it was about as fast as an > Isetta... don't tell the MGB owners about how I had to replace the rubber > A-arm bushings every 3000 miles or so... or how it caught on fire because > the carbs were conveniently placed over the catalytic converter... Fun!! > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, wrote: > > >> Alan, >> Here we are seriously thinking to have events together with our >> ".."-friends. Two weeks ago there was a meeting ".."-Club/Austin-Healey >> Club officials to have a ".."/Healey-Weekend organised next year. Here often >> people own cars of both marques and what we want is to meet same minded >> people, not looking what kind of car they own. >> So we have them really as close friends sharing the same hobby. >> >> Josef Eckert >> Konigswinter/GERMANY >> >> ------------------------------ >> *Von:* Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com] >> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 10. November 2009 09:24 >> *An:* Eckert, Josef >> *Cc:* Patrick.Quinn@det.nsw.edu.au; Healeys@autox.team.net >> >> *Betreff:* Re: [Healeys] E bay >> >> Josef - >> >> To say such a thing is *verboten*! If you mention MG again we'll have you >> drawn and quartered. >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 >> '53 BN1 >> '59 Jag Mk IX >> '64 BJ8 >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.58/2493 - Release Date: 11/09/09 19:40:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 06:24:08 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Oudesluys Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:28:14 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay As Arnold Schwartzenegger would say, "Welkohm tooh Kahlifonia" http://www.google.com/products?q=mgb+catalytic+converter&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBF_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=9Vv5SrHKB9CJkQWLgLWnCw&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQrQQwAA Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Oudesluys wrote: > MGB and a catalitic converter? Tell me more. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Alan Seigrist schreef: > >> Josef - >> >> I was joking! >> >> I used to have an MGB. I sold it because it was about as fast as an >> Isetta... don't tell the MGB owners about how I had to replace the rubber >> A-arm bushings every 3000 miles or so... or how it caught on fire because >> the carbs were conveniently placed over the catalytic converter... Fun!! >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 >> '53 BN1 >> '59 Jag Mk IX >> '64 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 06:24:43 2009 From: Kent McLean To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:41:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Patrick Quinn wrote: > I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL > Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. > > While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original > design it is still an Austin-Healey. But for one brief, shining moment, the car stood on a stand at Earl's Court in 1952 as a Healey 100 -- no hyphen, no Austin. Then Leonard Lord got to DMH, and it became an Austin-Healey. So the Healey 100, at least that one example, is a "REAL Healey". The thousands that followed are Austin-Healeys. I have one of the rare non-M models. :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 06:25:31 2009 From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:52:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] AM Radio For what it's worth, the following radios, in addition to those listed by Peter below, are given on BMIHT certificates for BJ8s. The dates in parentheses are build dates for the cars that got these radios: R.602T (Jan - Feb '64) R.900T (Feb - May '64) LE88 (Oct '64) R.70T (Jan - Feb '66, Sep '67) R.970T (Apr - May '66, Mar '67) R.470T (Oct '66) I wouldn't be surprised if some of the above are not typos -- for example, R.70T and R.470T for R970T -- because the BMIHT certificates frequently have mistakes. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Svilans Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:45 PM To: Healeys@autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio When talking about factory radios, the BJ8 was fitted with different models of Smiths Radiomobile for different years: 1964: manual- model 62 T pushbutton- model 902 T 1965-66: manual- model 72-T pushbutton- model 972 T 1968: manual- model RM 72 pushbutton- model RM 972 Manuals for over 100 models of Radiomobile can be bought from: http://www.savoy-hill.co.uk/ You pay, then get a link to their download page by email. Best Peter _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 06:54:21 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Alan Seigrist Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:07:48 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Were they legally required after market items? Kees Oudesluijs _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 07:21:39 2009 From: Alan Seigrist To: Oudesluys , Josef.Eckert@t-systems.com, Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:01 +0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay No, factory spec 75 to 80 in the US. On 11/10/09, Oudesluys wrote: > Were they legally required after market items? > Kees Oudesluijs > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 07:22:45 2009 From: S and T Miller To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:32:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT 5 My experience with bleeding both DOT 3/4 and DOT 5 into the same container is that the Silicone floats on top of the DOT 3/4. In a wheel cylinder, master cylinder, brake union, or caliper it would do the same. My personal advice is to flush it out with rubbing alcohol either way you go. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 07:23:17 2009 From: Tom Felts To: Dave Porter , Oudesluys Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 7:36:38 -0600 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 What should be blue---DOT 5 or DOT 5.1? Mine is DOT 5 and it is purple. Made by AGS Company, Muskegon, Mi, USA. ---- Oudesluys wrote: ============= Should be blue. Kees Oudesluijs NL Dave Porter schreef: > What color is it? > dave > > frogeye@porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 08:53:51 2009 From: Chris Dimmock To: Tom Felts Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:05 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 I still use Dot 4. Changed every year or so. For all the pedal issues/ have to change everything/ flush everything issues we have all heard for years - I never changed. Just mentioned this to a good mate who has been racing sprites for over 30 years, and who runs a very successful business rebuilding/ maintaining spridgets, and he said 'huh- been running dot 5 in race cars for over 10 years' I'll probably go dot 5 next month when I rebuild the whole hydraulic system in my BJ8 So is it 5 or 5.1? Already have rebuilt calipers/ 3 new hoses/ rebuilt bj8 booster/ clutch& brake master cyl kits for my s/s sleeved master cyls & clutch s/cyl and nos rear wheels cyls. Comments? Chris www.myaustinhealey.com Sent from my iPhone On 10/11/2009, at 2:04 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > Don't suppose they said why? Are we to assume why? > > > ---- David Nock wrote: > > ============= > This comes up about every 6 months or so and all I will say is that > if you purchase a Girling cylinder or kit in the instructions it > clearly states that if you use Silicone fluid your warranty is VOID. > > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > >> Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of >> the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. >> >> The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of >> suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts >> leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. >> >> Wilko >> >> On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: >> >>> less water absorption is a negative??? >>> >>> And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so >>> strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not >>> happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. >>> >>> >>> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >>> >>> ============= >>> Although DOT5 has its advantages in: >>> >>> -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true >>> for >>> DOT5.1) >>> -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic >>> -higher dry and wet boiling point >>> -long life _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 08:54:49 2009 From: ATIGHTPROD@aol.com To: kentmclean@comcast.net, healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:08:31 EST Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay... M-Models Just to add in my two cents about the "M" models, I guess I own the earliest M of all. According to my Body Production Card, Form 141, C.A.B. Serial #146497(hand written in), my car is actually a B.M.1., H.P. of 16, Body No. 598(hand written in), Body Type, HEALEY SPORTS. It's build date is 29 October 1953. I'm sure the B.M.1. is a typo on the card, but I I guess that make it an M non the less. Steven Kingsbury BM1 #598 In a message dated 11/10/2009 5:24:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kentmclean@comcast.net writes: Patrick Quinn wrote: > I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL > Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. > > While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original > design it is still an Austin-Healey. But for one brief, shining moment, the car stood on a stand at Earl's Court in 1952 as a Healey 100 -- no hyphen, no Austin. Then Leonard Lord got to DMH, and it became an Austin-Healey. So the Healey 100, at least that one example, is a "REAL Healey". The thousands that followed are Austin-Healeys. I have one of the rare non-M models. :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as atightprod@aol.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 08:55:12 2009 From: Jack Feldman To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:17:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] AM Radio Did I mess something in the thread? Panasonic? The manufacturers leaned early on that it was easier to source radios in the US than ship them and pay taxes.I have seen a number of radios, and the primary manufacturers, the ones that put the logo or BMC designation on them were either Motorola or Automatic Electric. That didn't mean that a number of after market radios wouldn't fit. Most had a way to move the shafts to fit the car opening, although the ones that could reverse polarity were usually designed for the British car market, and probably either of the above. Try and find a model number, return to Sams, and forget searching BMC, or any British car name. If you are desperate, there are a number of places that advertise in Hemmings that will fix the radio, but at great cost. Jack _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 09:52:28 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:02:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay... M-Models You didn't buy this on a street corner in NYC along with an inexpensive Rolex watch, did you? :) > Just to add in my two cents about the "M" models, I guess I own the > earliest M of all. According to my Body Production Card, Form 141, C.A.B. Serial > #146497(hand written in), my car is actually a B.M.1., H.P. of 16, Body No. > 598(hand written in), Body Type, HEALEY SPORTS. > It's build date is 29 October 1953. I'm sure the B.M.1. is a typo on > the card, but I I guess that make it an M non the less. > > Steven Kingsbury > BM1 #598 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 09:56:45 2009 From: Oudesluys To: Chris Dimmock Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:23:45 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Chris, DOT5 is the silicon fluid, DOT5.1 is conventional fluid like DOT4 but the wet and dry boiling points are brought up to DOT5 spec. My pick would be the DOT5.1 for a better feel and water absorbtion and change it every so many years, depending on the climate the car lives in. Kees Oudesluijs Chris Dimmock schreef: > I still use Dot 4. Changed every year or so. > For all the pedal issues/ have to change everything/ flush everything > issues we have all heard for years - I never changed. > Just mentioned this to a good mate who has been racing sprites for > over 30 years, and who runs a very successful business rebuilding/ > maintaining spridgets, and he said 'huh- been running dot 5 in race > cars for over 10 years' > I'll probably go dot 5 next month when I rebuild the whole hydraulic > system in my BJ8 > So is it 5 or 5.1? > Already have rebuilt calipers/ 3 new hoses/ rebuilt bj8 booster/ > clutch& brake master cyl kits for my s/s sleeved master cyls & clutch > s/cyl and nos rear wheels cyls. > Comments? > Chris > www.myaustinhealey.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 10/11/2009, at 2:04 PM, Tom Felts wrote: > >> Don't suppose they said why? Are we to assume why? >> >> >> ---- David Nock wrote: >> >> ============= >> This comes up about every 6 months or so and all I will say is that >> if you purchase a Girling cylinder or kit in the instructions it >> clearly states that if you use Silicone fluid your warranty is VOID. >> >> >> On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: >> >>> Silicone is known to be more compressible than DOT 4. That's one of >>> the reasons that it is not used or recommended in ABS systems. >>> >>> The fact that it doesn't absorb moisture is bad because instead of >>> suspending moisture, it can cause water to "settle" in brake parts >>> leading to water pockets and/or corrosion from same. >>> >>> Wilko >>> >>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Tom Felts wrote: >>> >>>> less water absorption is a negative??? >>>> >>>> And----my pedals are in no way spongy. Sorry to defend DOT 5 so >>>> strongly, but seems everything I hear bad about it has not >>>> happened to me in a very long time of silicone use. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- Oudesluys wrote: >>>> >>>> ============= >>>> Although DOT5 has its advantages in: >>>> >>>> -not stripping paint like DOT3/4 (I do not know if this also true for >>>> DOT5.1) >>>> -less detoriation being not or less hygroscopic >>>> -higher dry and wet boiling point >>>> -long life > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs@chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 07:38:00 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 11:39:51 2009 From: "Peter Svilans" To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:42:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AM radio Yes, all kinds of accessories were locally sourced and dealer fitted. The old US-made Hickock seat belts with gold fleur-de-lis on the chrome buckle and their knobbly fabric belt ( not the inertia-reel friendly smooth belts of today), luggage racks of all types, hardtops, and a bewildering variety of radios from Motorola, BMC Motorola Signature Custom, Playmate, Automatic Radio, Philips, Blaupunkt, etc. But that's no fun. I still hear a heavenly chorus when coming across an original Radiomobile / HMV / Emitron unit mounted on its proper brackets under the heater box, with the amp under the dash against the bulkhead, and the chrome speaker grille in its Healey-specific black cardboard enclosure mounted on the transmission tunnel, as the tie-wearing, pipe-smoking boffins at Radiomobile Ltd., Cricklewood Works, London, intended it to be. Best Peter _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 13:26:48 2009 From: Bob Johnson To: Healeys Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:24:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working I received e mail from a friend this morning suggesting that all politicians should be limited to 2 terms: one in office, one in prison. ; ^ ) Bob Johnson BJ8 >> >> Wasn't the quote, " Statistics don't lie but politicians always do.". _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 14:24:57 2009 From: To: Healeys Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:31:26 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working C'mon now! They're not all that bad. It 's just that 99% of them ruin it for the rest. ;) > > I received e mail from a friend this morning suggesting that all > politicians should be limited to 2 terms: one in office, one in > prison. ; ^ ) > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > > >> > >> Wasn't the quote, " Statistics don't lie but politicians always do.". _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 14:26:39 2009 From: To: , healey help Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:49:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working and a big AMEN to that! Bill BJ7 > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:24:27 -0500 > From: bjsbj8@gmail.com > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Your tax dollars NOT working > > I received e mail from a friend this morning suggesting that all > politicians should be limited to 2 terms: one in office, one in > prison. ; ^ ) > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 19:07:03 2009 From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE To: , Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:00:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay Patrick, You started this. Back to victoria for you...! Bill Lawrence > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:41:27 -0500 > From: kentmclean@comcast.net > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] E bay > > Patrick Quinn wrote: > > I just have to keep reminding you blokes that the cars you own are not "REAL > > Healeys", they are Austin-Healeys. > > > > While the Austin-Healey 100 is most certainly the purest to the original > > design it is still an Austin-Healey. > > But for one brief, shining moment, the car stood on a stand at Earl's Court in > 1952 as a Healey 100 -- no hyphen, no Austin. Then Leonard Lord got to DMH, and > it became an Austin-Healey. So the Healey 100, at least that one example, is a > "REAL Healey". The thousands that followed are Austin-Healeys. I have one of the > rare non-M models. :) > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink@msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 19:08:53 2009 From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE To: , Greg Lemon Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:12:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 You can solve this problem by installing a pleated rubber seal on the fluid reservoir. This seals the system and has an accordion pleated diaphragm that moves in compliance with the changing fluid level. No air exchange, no condensation, no problem. I found some in the generic parts display at the local Pep Boys. I think they cost less than $2.00 each. Bill lawrence > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:23:27 +0100 > From: coudesluijs@chello.nl > To: glemon@neb.rr.com > CC: Healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > > The relative humidity inside and outside the brake fluid reservoir is > the same as it is in open connection with the outside world even through > the small breathing hole. So if you have large differences in > temperature during day and night in a humid climate you have some > condensation inside the reservoir, especially if the car is parked > outside. Granted it is very little but it will add up in time. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Greg Lemon schreef: > > If DOT 5 doesn't absorb water how can any appreciable amount get into > > the system unless someone pours it in? I understand that you might > > get some condensation but very small volume of air to get any > > appreciable amount of air in the system for it to condense out of, > > likewise some condensation when the system is open (cap off) but cant > > see again how an appreciable amount would get into the system limited > > surface area (and time) for condensation to occur. Also, Count me as > > one who converted without doing more than blowing out the sytem with > > air, and no bad result, also really didn't notice any difference in > > pedal feel. > > > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink@msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 19:09:54 2009 From: Stephen Hutchings To: healeys@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:30:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Hub "O" ring I'm just assembling the front hubs with kingpins, and I seem to remember that the spring loaded dust covers had an "o" ring at the bottom. This isn't indicated in the manual diagram, but my kit did come with two "o" rings.......so, am I right? Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 20:27:11 2009 From: "Mark LaPierre" To: "Thomas Willig" , Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:32:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 Wow, the silicone madness rises again. I don't have time to read all these listings but i have gone both ways. When starting with all new parts, I use silicone. If parts are used, then stay with whats in it. Has anyone mentioned that all rubbers are not created equal. The natural rubber seals may act differently than the man made rubber parts. WHATS IN YOUR CYLINDERS? I'm sure not too many drivers really know at this point unless they did all the work themselves and even then its hard to tell. I saw what switching fluids back and forth in my Easzie Bleed system years ago did to the seals.. The seals would not seat anymore cause they were swelled up so much. I didn't want to take a chance of this happening to my brake system so I switch out everything to make it right at the start. Peace of mind , I guess. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Willig" To: Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:27 AM Subject: [Healeys] Silicone DOT5 brakefluid for the 100 > Some years ago there was a discussion whether to use DOT 5 brake fluid > in the 100 or not. As far as I understand you should make some > modifications to the brake master cylinder when using DOT 5 fluid. Can > anybody tell me precisely what these modifications were?. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem@sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 20:27:37 2009 From: Bob Spidell To: Stephen Hutchings Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:36:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hub "O" ring Yep. bs Stephen Hutchings wrote: > I'm just assembling the front hubs with kingpins, and I seem to > remember that the spring loaded dust covers had an "o" ring at the > bottom. This isn't indicated in the manual diagram, but my kit did > come with two "o" rings.......so, am I right? > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bspidell@comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 20:56:59 2009 From: "David Leong" To: "Healey List" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos Found this report on the Carmel Concours on the Avenue During the Montery Historics A 100-4 and an A-40 in the group. http://www.sportscardigest.com/2009-carmel-concours-photo-gallery/ Dave _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 21:47:57 2009 From: "Quinn, Patrick" To: "'david@dleong.org'" , Healey List Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:10:12 +1100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos G'day Dave Many thanks. Does anyone recognise the AH100 Coupe? Looks as if it was designed for those who like to wear a top hat. Also lots of things from later models like the screen surround and no guard beading. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Leong Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 2:22 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos Found this report on the Carmel Concours on the Avenue During the Montery Historics A 100-4 and an A-40 in the group. http://www.sportscardigest.com/2009-carmel-concours-photo-gallery/ Dave ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 22:44:58 2009 From: richard mayor To: , healeys Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:51:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos I have 2 words about the 100 "coupe" - Butt Ugly! Cheers, Richard Mayor > From: david@dleong.org > To: healeys@autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:51 -0800 > Subject: [Healeys] Sports Car Digest photos > > Found this report on the Carmel Concours on the Avenue During the Montery > Historics > > A 100-4 and an A-40 in the group. > > > > http://www.sportscardigest.com/2009-carmel-concours-photo-gallery/ > > > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard@hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 22:45:15 2009 From: richard mayor To: , Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:52:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hub "O" ring Correcto Mundo Stephen. > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:36:36 -0800 > From: bspidell@comcast.net > To: s.hutchings@rogers.com > CC: healeys@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hub "O" ring > > Yep. > > > bs > > > Stephen Hutchings wrote: > > I'm just assembling the front hubs with kingpins, and I seem to > > remember that the spring loaded dust covers had an "o" ring at the > > bottom. This isn't indicated in the manual diagram, but my kit did > > come with two "o" rings.......so, am I right? > > > > Stephen, BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as bspidell@comcast.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell@comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard@hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 10 22:47:10 2009 From: gene stigen To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:18:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey's 100m My '53 is chassis#143703, body #4360214, &has a LeMans engine #1B213811M(I installed back in '71 or '72),so what should I call her? my wife&I call her (Baby)in part because i,ve got BJ7&BJ8 also, _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys http://www.team.net/archive From healeys-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 11 01:50:37 2