Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter resistance

From: "John Sims" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 19:20:28 -0400

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I know that this may be elementary but when I had this problem, I found that
the ground cable from the engine to the frame was missing from the DPO. When
I replaced it, no more problems.

John Sims

Aberdeen, NJ

www.healey6.com

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of John
Spaur
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 6:49 PM
To: 'Healey list'
Subject: [Healeys] Starter resistance

I am back to having starter motor issues.

The starter turns over very slowly and will stop turning at all. I bypassed
the battery cutoff switch because it was getting hot, which indicates too
much resistance. Now when I turn over the starter, using the ignition
switch, the cable from the solenoid to the starter motor gets hot at the
connection to the starter motor. All connections are tight.

The battery is fully charged.

What could be causing the cable to overheat? What should I check?

Thank you,

John Spaur

'62 BT7

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif"'>I know =
that this may be elementary but when I had this problem, I found that =
the ground cable from the engine to the frame was missing from the DPO. =
When I replaced it, no more problems.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p =
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Black","sans-serif"'>John Sims<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Black","sans-serif"'>Aberdeen, NJ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
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Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John =
Spaur<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 6:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Healey list'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Starter =
resistance<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I am back to =
having starter motor issues.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The starter =
turns over very slowly and will stop turning at all. I bypassed the =
battery cutoff switch because it was getting hot, which indicates too =
much resistance. Now when I turn over the starter, using the ignition =
switch, the cable from the solenoid to the starter motor gets hot at the =
connection to the starter motor. All connections are =
tight.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The battery is fully charged.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>What could =
be causing the cable to overheat? What should I check?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thank =
you,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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From: "John Spaur" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 16:35:22 -0700

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From: John Spaur [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:35 PM
To: 'Chris Masucci'
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Starter resistance

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No, it spins just fine when it is off the car. The motor was rebuilt =
about 4000 miles ago. I suspect the pinon gear is still binding on the =
worm gear even though I took steps to correct it by taking most of the =
backwards and forwards free play out of the armature shaft.

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From: Chris Masucci [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:29 PM
To: John Spaur
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter resistance

=20

Sounds to me like your starter motor is knackered.  I bet connected =
direct to a battery off of the car it still turns slow.

Chris

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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> John Spaur =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, =
2015 4:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Chris Masucci'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: =
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style=3D'color:#1F497D'>No, it spins just fine when it is off the car. =
The motor was rebuilt about 4000 miles ago. I suspect the pinon gear is =
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taking most of the backwards and forwards free play out of the armature =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Chris Masucci [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> John =
Spaur<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Starter =
resistance<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sounds =
to me like your starter motor is knackered. &nbsp;I bet connected direct =
to a battery off of the car it still turns slow.<br><br>Chris<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
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Wierd.  Is it binding on the flywheel ring gear?  Are there any witness scra=
tch marks on the other parts of the gear assy?  Did you try a spacer or some=
thing?

Chris
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2015, at 6:35 PM, John Spaur <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> No, it spins just fine when it is off the car. The motor was rebuilt about=
 4000 miles ago. I suspect the pinon gear is still binding on the worm gear e=
ven though I took steps to correct it by taking most of the backwards and fo=
rwards free play out of the armature shaft.
> Sounds to me like your starter motor is knackered.  I bet connected direct=
 to a battery off of the car it still turns slow.
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heel ring gear? &nbsp;Are there any witness scratch marks on the other parts=
 of the gear assy? &nbsp;Did you try a spacer or something?<br><br>Chris<div=
>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><br>On Apr 16, 2015, at 6:35 PM, John S=
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n 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> John Spaur [<a href=3D"mailto:jms=
[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thu=
rsday, April 16, 2015 4:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Chris Masucci'<br><b>Subject:</=
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F497D">No, it spins just fine when it is off the car. The motor was rebuilt a=
bout 4000 miles ago. I suspect the pinon gear is still binding on the worm g=
ear even though I took steps to correct it by taking most of the backwards a=
nd forwards free play out of the armature shaft.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><=
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in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Chris Masucci [<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> T=
hursday, April 16, 2015 4:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Spaur<br><b>Subject:</b> R=
e: [Healeys] Starter resistance<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sounds to me like your=
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The pinion gear binds on the worm gear when is spins down and engages =
the flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench. When this first =
occurred it was because the armature shaft could move too far forward =
which allowed the pinon gear to move too far down the worm gear. I put a =
thrust washer between the armature and the end plate (inside the motor) =
to limit the movement of the armature shaft. There was already a very =
worn steel thrust washer in that place.

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From: Chris Masucci [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:04 PM
To: John Spaur
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance

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Wierd.  Is it binding on the flywheel ring gear?  Are there any witness =
scratch marks on the other parts of the gear assy?  Did you try a spacer =
or something?

Chris

Sent from my iPhone

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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The pinion gear binds on =
the worm gear when is spins down and engages the flywheel starter gear. =
I can recreate on the bench. When this first occurred it was because the =
armature shaft could move too far forward which allowed the pinon gear =
to move too far down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer between the =
armature and the end plate (inside the motor) to limit the movement of =
the armature shaft. There was already a very worn steel thrust washer in =
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[mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 =
5:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Spaur<br><b>Cc:</b> Healey =
list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter =
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&nbsp;Is it binding on the flywheel ring gear? &nbsp;Are there any =
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An anecdote, but maybe it'll help:

When we restored our BN2, we went back to 2x6V batteries.  We had 
intermittent starting problems; connections at the solenoid and 
elsewhere would get pistol hot.  We had fabricated our own battery 
cables--from double-ought stranded welding cable!--but my dad was 
worried our soldered connections were bad.  We often charged the 
batteries to max charge on a charger before testing the starting system.

Then, one day Dad accidentally shorted out the two batteries (he's lucky 
he didn't get an explosion or splashed with acid, or both). He replaced 
the two batteries and, lo and behold,  the big 4-cyl spins over better 
than my BJ8, and the 4 has better compression. The car may sit for a 
couple months but always has charge for a start.  Bottom line: still 
could be the battery.

Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate brand--golf cart 
batteries, actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've had in my 2008 
Mustang.  That's right, 3 batteries in 7 years; the first two both went 
almost exactly at 3 years, I expect the third to go in 3 as well.  These 
Interstates are hecho en Mexico; I wanted to buy a Parts+ battery but 
would have had to wait a day to get it and this car is my daily driver.  
I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my BJ8; it was still cranking but 
was on the low end of a load test and I was getting ready for a long 
road trip.  And, it's made in the USA.

I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another if I can help it.

Bob

On 4/16/2015 5:28 PM, John Spaur wrote:
>
> The pinion gear binds on the worm gear when is spins down and engages 
> the flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench. When this 
> first occurred it was because the armature shaft could move too far 
> forward which allowed the pinon gear to move too far down the worm 
> gear. I put a thrust washer between the armature and the end plate 
> (inside the motor) to limit the movement of the armature shaft. There 
> was already a very worn steel thrust washer in that place.
>
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    An anecdote, but maybe it'll help:<br>
    <br>
    When we restored our BN2, we went back to 2x6V batteries.  We had
    intermittent starting problems; connections at the solenoid and
    elsewhere would get pistol hot.  We had fabricated our own battery
    cables--from double-ought stranded welding cable!--but my dad was
    worried our soldered connections were bad.  We often charged the
    batteries to max charge on a charger before testing the starting
    system.<br>
    <br>
    Then, one day Dad accidentally shorted out the two batteries (he's
    lucky he didn't get an explosion or splashed with acid, or both). 
    He replaced the two batteries and, lo and behold,  the big 4-cyl
    spins over better than my BJ8, and the 4 has better compression. 
    The car may sit for a couple months but always has charge for a
    start.  Bottom line: still could be the battery.<br>
    <br>
    Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate brand--golf cart
    batteries, actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've had in my 2008
    Mustang.  That's right, 3 batteries in 7 years; the first two both
    went almost exactly at 3 years, I expect the third to go in 3 as
    well.  These Interstates are hecho en Mexico; I wanted to buy a
    Parts+ battery but would have had to wait a day to get it and this
    car is my daily driver.  I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my
    BJ8; it was still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and
    I was getting ready for a long road trip.  And, it's made in the
    USA.<br>
    <br>
    I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another if I can
    help it.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
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            this first occurred it was because the armature shaft could
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            too far down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer between
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Start checking your earth straps battery-chassis and engine-hassis. Look 
for presence, corrosion, broken.
Than check integrety of all other leads to starter, clean and tighten 
the battery terminals.
Seems to me there is a lack of use of the car (to much resistance in the 
battery cut off switch).
Kees Oudesluijs

John Spaur schreef op 17-4-2015 om 0:49:
> The starter turns over very slowly and will stop turning at all. I 
> bypassed the battery cutoff switch because it was getting hot, which 
> indicates too much resistance. Now when I turn over the starter, using 
> the ignition switch, the cable from the solenoid to the starter motor 
> gets hot at the connection to the starter motor. All connections are 
> tight.
>
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      Start checking your earth straps battery-chassis and
      engine-hassis. Look for presence, corrosion, broken.<br>
      Than check integrety of all other leads to starter, clean and
      tighten the battery terminals.<br>
      Seems to me there is a lack of use of the car (to much resistance
      in the battery cut off switch).<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">The starter turns over very slowly and will
          stop turning at all. I bypassed the battery cutoff switch
          because it was getting hot, which indicates too much
          resistance. Now when I turn over the starter, using the
          ignition switch, the cable from the solenoid to the starter
          motor gets hot at the connection to the starter motor. All
          connections are tight.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">The battery is fully charged.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">What could be causing the cable to
          overheat? What should I check?</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,</p>
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Johnson controls which makes Duralast also makes Interstate batteries. Go
figure.

 <http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-interstate-batteries/>
http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-interstate-batteries/

John Sims

Aberdeen, NJ

www.healey6.com

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Warren
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 7:11 AM
To: Bob Spidell; Healey List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance-FYI

    Bob wrote; "I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another
if I can help it."

Speaking of batteries, my experience with Autozone Duralast brand has been
positive. I now have them  in my daily drivers

and the Healey. 

 The one in the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep a
trickle charger on when stored for 7 mos. and also during driving season
when parked. Whether that has to do with  longevity or luck I don't know?  I
also trickle charge the daily drivers if I'm away for more than a week.
Newer cars drain fast.

 I plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-DG)  this spring. Don't want to
push my luck since I will be driving to Gettysburg in July for Enclave.

http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/

WD

67 BJ8

  _____  

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:47:06 -0700
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance

When we restored our BN2, we went back to 2x6V batteries.  We had
intermittent starting problems; connections at the solenoid and elsewhere
would get pistol hot.  We had fabricated our own battery cables--from
double-ought stranded welding cable!--but my dad was worried our soldered
connections were bad.  We often charged the batteries to max charge on a
charger before testing the starting system.

Then, one day Dad accidentally shorted out the two batteries (he's lucky he
didn't get an explosion or splashed with acid, or both).  He replaced the
two batteries and, lo and behold,  the big 4-cyl spins over better than my
BJ8, and the 4 has better compression.  The car may sit for a couple months
but always has charge for a start.  Bottom line: still could be the battery.

Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate brand--golf cart batteries,
actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've had in my 2008 Mustang.  That's
right, 3 batteries in 7 years; the first two both went almost exactly at 3
years, I expect the third to go in 3 as well.  These Interstates are hecho
en Mexico; I wanted to buy a Parts+ battery but would have had to wait a day
to get it and this car is my daily driver.  I had a Parts+ battery go 7
years in my BJ8; it was still cranking but was on the low end of a load test
and I was getting ready for a long road trip.  And, it's made in the USA.

Bob

The pinion gear binds on the worm gear when is spins down and engages the
flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench. When this first occurred
it was because the armature shaft could move too far forward which allowed
the pinon gear to move too far down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer
between the armature and the end plate (inside the motor) to limit the
movement of the armature shaft. There was already a very worn steel thrust
washer in that place.

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Black","sans-serif"'>Johnson controls which makes Duralast also makes =
Interstate batteries. Go figure.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-interstate-batteries/">=
<span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-interstate=
-batteries/</span></a><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>John Sims<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>Aberdeen, NJ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>www.healey6.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Warren<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 17, 2015 7:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Bob Spidell; Healey List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter =
resistance-FYI<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Bob =
wrote; &quot;I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another =
if I can help it.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Speaking of batteries, my =
experience with Autozone Duralast brand has been positive. I =
now&nbsp;have them &nbsp;in my daily =
drivers<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>and the =
Healey.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;The one in the Healey =
was purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep a trickle charger on =
when stored for 7 mos. and also during driving season when parked. =
Whether that has to do with &nbsp;longevity or luck I don't know? =
&nbsp;I also trickle charge the daily drivers if I'm away for more than =
a week. Newer cars drain fast.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;I plan to replace the =
Healey's battery(27-DG) &nbsp;this spring. Don't want to push my luck =
since I will be driving to Gettysburg in July for Enclave. &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
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target=3D"_blank">http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batt=
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</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>WD<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>67 =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
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21:47:06 -0700<br>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Subj=
ect: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance<br><br>An anecdote, but maybe =
it'll help:<br><br>When we restored our BN2, we went back to 2x6V =
batteries.&nbsp; We had intermittent starting problems; connections at =
the solenoid and elsewhere would get pistol hot.&nbsp; We had fabricated =
our own battery cables--from double-ought stranded welding cable!--but =
my dad was worried our soldered connections were bad.&nbsp; We often =
charged the batteries to max charge on a charger before testing the =
starting system.<br><br>Then, one day Dad accidentally shorted out the =
two batteries (he's lucky he didn't get an explosion or splashed with =
acid, or both).&nbsp; He replaced the two batteries and, lo and =
behold,&nbsp; the big 4-cyl spins over better than my BJ8, and the 4 has =
better compression.&nbsp; The car may sit for a couple months but always =
has charge for a start.&nbsp; Bottom line: still could be the =
battery.<br><br>Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate =
brand--golf cart batteries, actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've =
had in my 2008 Mustang.&nbsp; That's right, 3 batteries in 7 years; the =
first two both went almost exactly at 3 years, I expect the third to go =
in 3 as well.&nbsp; These Interstates are hecho en Mexico; I wanted to =
buy a Parts+ battery but would have had to wait a day to get it and this =
car is my daily driver.&nbsp; I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my =
BJ8; it was still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and I =
was getting ready for a long road trip.&nbsp; And, it's made in the =
USA.<br><br>I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another =
if I can help it.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On =
4/16/2015 5:28 PM, John Spaur =
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gear binds on the worm gear when is spins down and engages the flywheel =
starter gear. I can recreate on the bench. When this first occurred it =
was because the armature shaft could move too far forward which allowed =
the pinon gear to move too far down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer =
between the armature and the end plate (inside the motor) to limit the =
movement of the armature shaft. There was already a very worn steel =
thrust washer in that place.</span><span =
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A battery when properly maintained should last about 10 years. Top it up 
regularly using distilled water only and use a trickle charger when not 
in use.
It is important you get the right type suitable for starting engines. I 
often see batteries in cars that are actually intended for caravans i.e. 
not starting batteries, they cannot handle the currents needed for 
starting very well..
Kees Oudesluijs

Warren schreef op 17-4-2015 om 13:10:
> Speaking of batteries, my experience with Autozone Duralast brand has 
> been positive. I now have them  in my daily drivers
> and the Healey.
>
>  The one in the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep 
> a trickle charger on when stored for 7 mos. and also during driving 
> season when parked. Whether that has to do with  longevity or luck I 
> don't know?  I also trickle charge the daily drivers if I'm away for 
> more than a week. Newer cars drain fast.
>
>  I plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-DG)  this spring. Don't 
> want to push my luck since I will be driving to Gettysburg in July for 
> Enclave.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> lucky he didn't get an explosion or splashed with acid, or both).  He 
> replaced the two batteries and, lo and behold,  the big 4-cyl spins 
> over better than my BJ8, and the 4 has better compression.  The car 
> may sit for a couple months but always has charge for a start.  Bottom 
> line: still could be the battery.
>
> well.  These Interstates are hecho en Mexico; I wanted to buy a Parts+ 
> battery but would have had to wait a day to get it and this car is my 
> daily driver.  I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my BJ8; it was 
> still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and I was getting 
> ready for a long road trip.  And, it's made in the USA.
>
>     The pinion gear binds on the worm gear when is spins down and
>     engages the flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench.
>     When this first occurred it was because the armature shaft could
>     move too far forward which allowed the pinon gear to move too far
>     down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer between the armature and
>     the end plate (inside the motor) to limit the movement of the
>     armature shaft. There was already a very worn steel thrust washer
>     in that place.
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      should last about 10 years. Top it up regularly using distilled
      water only and use a trickle charger when not in use.<br>
      It is important you get the right type suitable for starting
      engines. I often see batteries in cars that are actually intended
      for caravans i.e. not starting batteries, they cannot handle the
      currents needed for starting very well..<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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        <div>    <span>Bob wrote; "</span><span>I thought Interstate was
            a good brand; I won't buy another if I can help it."</span></div>
        <div><br>
          <br>
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        Speaking of batteries, my experience with Autozone Duralast
        brand has been positive. I now have them  in my daily drivers
        <div>and the Healey. </div>
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        </div>
        <div> The one in the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and still
          going. I keep a trickle charger on when stored for 7 mos. and
          also during driving season when parked. Whether that has to do
          with  longevity or luck I don't know?  I also trickle charge
          the daily drivers if I'm away for more than a week. Newer cars
          drain fast.</div>
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        <div> I plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-DG)  this
          spring. Don't want to push my luck since I will be driving to
          Gettysburg in July for Enclave.             </div>
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            <hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:47:06 -0700<br>
            From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
            To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
            Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance<br>
            <br>
            An anecdote, but maybe it'll help:<br>
            <br>
            When we restored our BN2, we went back to 2x6V batteries. 
            We had intermittent starting problems; connections at the
            solenoid and elsewhere would get pistol hot.  We had
            fabricated our own battery cables--from double-ought
            stranded welding cable!--but my dad was worried our soldered
            connections were bad.  We often charged the batteries to max
            charge on a charger before testing the starting system.<br>
            <br>
            Then, one day Dad accidentally shorted out the two batteries
            (he's lucky he didn't get an explosion or splashed with
            acid, or both).  He replaced the two batteries and, lo and
            behold,  the big 4-cyl spins over better than my BJ8, and
            the 4 has better compression.  The car may sit for a couple
            months but always has charge for a start.  Bottom line:
            still could be the battery.<br>
            <br>
            Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate brand--golf
            cart batteries, actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've
            had in my 2008 Mustang.  That's right, 3 batteries in 7
            years; the first two both went almost exactly at 3 years, I
            expect the third to go in 3 as well.  These Interstates are
            hecho en Mexico; I wanted to buy a Parts+ battery but would
            have had to wait a day to get it and this car is my daily
            driver.  I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my BJ8; it was
            still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and I
            was getting ready for a long road trip.  And, it's made in
            the USA.<br>
            <br>
            I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another
            if I can help it.<br>
            <br>
            Bob<br>
            <br>
            <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2015 5:28 PM, John
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                    the worm gear when is spins down and engages the
                    flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench.
                    When this first occurred it was because the armature
                    shaft could move too far forward which allowed the
                    pinon gear to move too far down the worm gear. I put
                    a thrust washer between the armature and the end
                    plate (inside the motor) to limit the movement of
                    the armature shaft. There was already a very worn
                    steel thrust washer in that place.</span></p>
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Have the starter load tested by a competent shop.=20
=C2=A0=20
Ed Woods=20

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From: "John Spaur" <[email-masked]>=20
To: "Healey list" <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 6:49:06 PM=20
Subject: [Healeys] Starter resistance=20

I am back to having starter motor issues.=20

=C2=A0=20

The starter turns over very slowly and will stop turning at all. I bypassed=
 the battery cutoff switch because it was getting hot, which indicates too =
much resistance. Now when I turn over the starter, using the ignition switc=
h, the cable from the solenoid to the starter motor gets hot at the connect=
ion to the starter motor. All connections are tight.=20

=C2=A0=20

The battery is fully charged.=20

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What could be causing the cable to overheat? What should I check?=20

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<P class=3DMsoNormal>I am back to having starter motor issues.</P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>The starter turns over very slowly and will stop turni=
ng at all. I bypassed the battery cutoff switch because it was getting hot,=
 which indicates too much resistance. Now when I turn over the starter, usi=
ng the ignition switch, the cable from the solenoid to the starter motor ge=
ts hot at the connection to the starter motor. All connections are tight.</=
P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>The battery is fully charged.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>What could be causing the cable to overheat? What shou=
ld I check?</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Thank you,</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>John Spaur</P>
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Hi John,
I would recommend two checks.
1. Check the voltage between the threaded terminal on the starter motor and
ground as you crank the engine. It should be in the 9 - 11 volts range.
2. Check the current draw of the starter under load. This requires a clamp
on ammeter which is a tool worth adding to your collection. The current
draw should be in 100 - 200 range.
If you have at least 9 volts and the current is over 200 the supply to the
starter is okay and you need to look into problems with the motor itself
(internal short) or the drive (bent or incorrectly positioned).
If the voltage is under 9 volts and the current flow is under 200 then you
need to check the battery, cables, solenoid,ground straps and master switch
for problems.
Healeys are not the best "crankers" even when everything is in good
condition because of the length of the electrical path and the 14
connections in it all of which need to be in good condition for the system
to operate correctly.
Michael S
BN1 #174

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:49 PM, John Spaur <[email-masked]> wrote:

> indicates too much resistance. Now when I turn over the starter, using th=
e
> ignition switch, the cable from the solenoid to the starter motor gets ho=
t
> at the connection to the starter motor. All connections are tight.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi John,<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I woul=
d recommend two checks.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">1. Check the voltage betw=
een the threaded terminal on the starter motor and ground as you crank the =
engine. It should be in the 9 - 11 volts range. <br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">=
2. Check the current draw of the starter under load. This requires a clamp =
on ammeter which is a tool worth adding to your collection. The current dra=
w should be in 100 - 200 range. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">If you have at l=
east 9 volts and the current is over 200 the supply to the starter is okay =
and you need to look into problems with the motor itself (internal short) o=
r the drive (bent or incorrectly positioned).<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">If =
the voltage is under 9 volts and the current flow is under 200 then you nee=
d to check the battery, cables, solenoid,ground straps and master switch fo=
r problems.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comi=
c sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Healeys are not the best &quot;cranke=
rs&quot; even when everything is in good condition because of the length of=
 the electrical path and the 14 connections in it all of which need to be i=
n good condition for the system to operate correctly.<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:=
small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l"><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:49 PM, John Spaur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link=3D"#0563=
C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am back =
to having starter motor issues.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The starter turns over very slo=
wly and will stop turning at all. I bypassed the battery cutoff switch beca=
use it was getting hot, which indicates too much resistance. Now when I tur=
n over the starter, using the ignition switch, the cable from the solenoid =
to the starter motor gets hot at the connection to the starter motor. All c=
onnections are tight.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The battery is fully charged.<u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>What could be causing the cable to overheat? What should I check?<u></u><u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Thank you,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
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The environment that your Mustang battery  lives in is way different than
the environment than the BJ8
Heat kills batteries.  Underhood temps on a modern car are ugly hot.  heat
shortens the life of the battery.
Here is an example  Series III XJ6 a top of the line Delco battery lasted
18 months.  You could almost set your watch by it.
The battery was located at the firewall on the exhaust side of the engine.
It got cooked.
XJS on the other hand, the batteries lasted 5-6 years, the battery was in
the trunk.

In a modern car, after 3 years the battery is on Social Security, after 4
years the battery has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

Rick

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Warren <[email-masked]> wrote:

>     Bob wrote; "I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy
> another if I can help it."
>
>
> when parked. Whether that has to do with  longevity or luck I don't know?
> I also trickle charge the daily drivers if I'm away for more than a week.
> Newer cars drain fast.
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> en Mexico; I wanted to buy a Parts+ battery but would have had to wait a
> day to get it and this car is my daily driver.  I had a Parts+ battery go 7
> years in my BJ8; it was still cranking but was on the low end of a load
> test and I was getting ready for a long road trip.  And, it's made in the
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The environment that your Mustang battery =C2=A0lives in i=
s way different than the environment than the BJ8<div>Heat kills batteries.=
=C2=A0 Underhood temps on a modern car are ugly hot. =C2=A0heat shortens th=
e life of the battery. =C2=A0</div><div>Here is an example =C2=A0Series III=
 XJ6 a top of the line Delco battery lasted 18 months.=C2=A0 You could almo=
st set your watch by it.</div><div>The battery was located at the firewall =
on the exhaust side of the engine.=C2=A0 It got cooked.</div><div>XJS on th=
e other hand, the batteries lasted 5-6 years, the battery was in the trunk.=
</div><div><br></div><div>In a modern car, after 3 years the battery is on =
Social Security, after 4 years the battery has one foot in the grave and th=
e other on a banana peel.</div><div><br></div><div>Rick</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:10 AM=
, Warren <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
">Bob wrote; &quot;</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I thought Intersta=
te was a good brand; I won&#39;t buy another if I can help it.&quot;</span>=
</div><div><br><br></div>Speaking of batteries, my experience with Autozone=
 Duralast brand has been positive. I now=C2=A0have them =C2=A0in my daily d=
rivers<div>and the Healey.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0The one in =
the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep a trickle charge=
r on when stored for 7 mos. and also during driving season when parked. Whe=
ther that has to do with =C2=A0longevity or luck I don&#39;t know?=C2=A0 I =
also trickle charge the daily drivers if I&#39;m away for more than a week.=
 Newer cars drain fast.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0I plan to replace th=
e Healey&#39;s battery(27-DG) =C2=A0this spring. Don&#39;t want to push my =
luck since I will be driving to Gettysburg in July for Enclave. =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
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=A0<a href=3D"http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/=
" style=3D"font-size:12pt" target=3D"_blank">http://bestbatterytips.com/tag=
s/who-makes-duralast-batteries/</a></div><div><br></div><div>WD</div><div>6=
7 BJ8</div><div><div><hr><br>
    <br>
    Side note: the BN2&#39;s batteries are Interstate brand--golf cart
    batteries, actually--and so are the 3 batteries I&#39;ve had in my 2008
    Mustang.=C2=A0 That&#39;s right, 3 batteries in 7 years; the first two =
both
    went almost exactly at 3 years, I expect the third to go in 3 as
    well.=C2=A0 These Interstates are hecho en Mexico; I wanted to buy a
    Parts+ battery but would have had to wait a day to get it and this
    car is my daily driver.=C2=A0 I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my
    BJ8; it was still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and
    I was getting ready for a long road trip.=C2=A0 And, it&#39;s made in t=
he
    USA.<br>
    <br>
    I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won&#39;t buy another if I can
    help it.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
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From: Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:09:09 +0200

John
I bet I know what your problem is, been there, done that.
You say the cable between the solenoid and starter gets hot. That cable 
has a cable shoe in each end. One of those have a little weak contact 
with the cable. Over time this contact will weaken even more. Eventually 
there will be no contact at all. If you look closely you can probably 
see that the plastic isolation has melted in one end. Resolder that 
cable shoe and your problem will be solved.

Per

John Spaur skrev den 2015-04-17 00:49:
> gets hot at the connection to the starter motor. All connections are tight.
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:26:51 +0000 (UTC)

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Makes sense; however, the BN2 batteries are located just behind the rear bulkhead. One is on the side of the exhaust, but not that close. They may have just been defective, or sat on the shelf for too long. The second pair is performing well, so far. 

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The environment that your Mustang battery lives in is way different than the environment than the BJ8 
Heat kills batteries. Underhood temps on a modern car are ugly hot. heat shortens the life of the battery. 
Here is an example Series III XJ6 a top of the line Delco battery lasted 18 months. You could almost set your watch by it. 
The battery was located at the firewall on the exhaust side of the engine. It got cooked. 
XJS on the other hand, the batteries lasted 5-6 years, the battery was in the trunk. 

In a modern car, after 3 years the battery is on Social Security, after 4 years the battery has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. 

Rick 

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Warren < [email-masked] > wrote: 

Bob wrote; " I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another if I can help it." 

Speaking of batteries, my experience with Autozone Duralast brand has been positive. I now have them in my daily drivers 
and the Healey. 

The one in the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep a trickle charger on when stored for 7 mos. and also during driving season when parked. Whether that has to do with longevity or luck I don't know? I also trickle charge the daily drivers if I'm away for more than a week. Newer cars drain fast. 

I plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-DG) this spring. Don't want to push my luck since I will be driving to Gettysburg in July for Enclave. 
http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/ 

WD 
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Makes sense; however, the BN2 batterie=
s are located just behind the rear bulkhead.&nbsp; One is on the side of th=
e exhaust, but not that close.&nbsp; They may have just been defective, or =
sat on the shelf for too long.&nbsp; The second pair is performing well, so=
 far.<br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;fon=
t-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetic=
a,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-wei=
ght: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvet=
ica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>The environment that your Mustang battery &nbsp;lives in is way different =
than the environment than the BJ8<div>Heat kills batteries.&nbsp; Underhood=
 temps on a modern car are ugly hot. &nbsp;heat shortens the life of the ba=
ttery. &nbsp;</div><div>Here is an example &nbsp;Series III XJ6 a top of th=
e line Delco battery lasted 18 months.&nbsp; You could almost set your watc=
h by it.</div><div>The battery was located at the firewall on the exhaust s=
ide of the engine.&nbsp; It got cooked.</div><div>XJS on the other hand, th=
e batteries lasted 5-6 years, the battery was in the trunk.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>In a modern car, after 3 years the battery is on Social Security,=
 after 4 years the battery has one foot in the grave and the other on a ban=
ana peel.</div><div><br></div><div>Rick</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Warren <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
 data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
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rgin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-size:12pt" data-m=
ce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Bob wrote; "</span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
2pt" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">I thought Interstate was a good br=
and; I won't buy another if I can help it."</span></div><div><br><div><br><=
/div></div>Speaking of batteries, my experience with Autozone Duralast bran=
d has been positive. I now&nbsp;have them &nbsp;in my daily drivers<div>and=
 the Healey.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;The one in the Healey was=
 purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep a trickle charger on when stor=
ed for 7 mos. and also during driving season when parked. Whether that has =
to do with &nbsp;longevity or luck I don't know?&nbsp; I also trickle charg=
e the daily drivers if I'm away for more than a week. Newer cars drain fast=
.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;I plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-=
DG) &nbsp;this spring. Don't want to push my luck since I will be driving t=
o Gettysburg in July for Enclave. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://bestbatteryt=
ips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/" style=3D"font-size:12pt" target=
=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-dura=
last-batteries/" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">http://bestbatterytips=
.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/</a><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><=
div><br></div><div>WD</div><div>67 BJ8</div><div><div><hr><br> <br> <br><di=
v><br></div></div></div></div></div><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div>=
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