Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume

From: "Simon Lachlan" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 14:32:44 +0100

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Hi,

1)      My car's Driver's Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:

my MkII BT7's gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts) 

its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)

2)      My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me that:

gearbox               4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)

Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30 US pts)

3)      My Haynes manual goes for:

Standard box:- 5 imp pts

With overdrive:- 6.25 pts              

4)      My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes for:

Standard box:- 5 imp pts

With overdrive:- 6.25 pts

ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.

I've had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I've never noticed these
discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip stick, but I'd bet
that I've overfilled more than once.

Any ideas? I don't recall this coming up before.....

Thanks,

Simon

(And I didn't mention Redline once!)

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class=3DMsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
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style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My car&#8217;s Driver&#8217;s Handbook page 7, =
(AKD 3915A) tells me that:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>my MkII =
BT7&#8217;s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts) <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me =
that:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>gearbox&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, =
5.25 imp pts (6.30 US pts)<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My Haynes manual goes for:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Standard box:- 5 imp pts<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>With overdrive:- 6.25 =
pts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes =
for:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Standard box:- 5 imp =
pts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>With overdrive:- 6.25 =
pts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I&#8217;ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and =
I&#8217;ve never noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have survived by =
using the dip stick, but I&#8217;d bet that I&#8217;ve overfilled more =
than once.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any ideas? I don&#8217;t recall this coming up =
before.....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>(And I =
didn&#8217;t mention Redline once!)<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>
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From: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 09:46:08 +0800

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The official documents are more, probably because this is what went in the
boxes when dry.  Haynes and Autopress, if they did a drain and refill,
there would be less oil because of the oil left in the box after draining.

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Simon Lachlan <[email-masked]=
k
> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 1)      My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) te=
lls me that:
>
> my MkII BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)
>
> I=E2=80=99ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never noti=
ced these
> discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=
=80=99d bet
> that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.
>
>
>
> Any ideas? I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
> (And I didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">The official documents are more, probably because this is =
what went in the boxes when dry.=C2=A0 Haynes and Autopress, if they did a =
drain and refill, there would be less oil because of the oil left in the bo=
x after draining.<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Simon Lachlan <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@h=
omecall.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<u>=
</u><u></u></p><p><u></u><span>1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>My car=E2=
=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:<u></u>=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">my MkII BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 =
imp pts (6.90 US pts) <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">its overdriv=
e takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p><u></u><span>2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>M=
y BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me that:<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">gearbox=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)<u></u><u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.3=
0 US pts)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
p><u></u><span>3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>My Haynes manual goes for:=
<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Standard box:- 5 imp pts<u></u><u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">With overdrive:- 6.25 pts=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p><u></u><span>4)<span =
style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes for:<u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Standard box:- 5 imp pts<u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">With overdrive:- 6.25 pts<u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">ie only H=
aynes and Autopress agree.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=
=99ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never noticed these=
 discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=80=
=99d bet that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.<u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any ideas=
? I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....<u></u><u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">(And I didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)</p></div></blockquote>=
</div></div></div>

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 17:03:02 -0400

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I run 30W non-detergent in my BN1 and that's what's been used in it for  
over sixty years now and it still works great, so why mess with a good thing!  
And yes, mine leaks, so I always have fresh oil being added and what leaks, 
 looks almost brand new. All good and I try not to over think or change 
what  works.
Steven Kingsbury
BN1 #598

In a message dated 5/26/2015 11:22:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email-masked] writes:

G'day

Yes that's true for the BN2 through to BJ8 gearboxes,  but not so for the 
BN1
which does not have a dipstick. The BN1 box has a  screw-in plug on the
almost top right hand side and to test the level you  have to revert to the
old finger in the hole trick.

I recall many  years back after a particularly brisk cross country trip I
stopped to check  the gearbox oil level. On unscrewing the plug the hot oil
flowed out under  pressure clearly caused by expansion. Unlike the later 
cars
the BN1 gearbox  is sealed.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains,  Australia

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<DIV>I run 30W non-detergent in my BN1 and that's what's been used in it=
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over sixty years now and it still works great, so why mess with a good thi=
ng!=20
And yes, mine leaks, so I always have fresh oil being added and what leaks=
,=20
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<DIV>In a message dated 5/26/2015 11:22:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20
[email-masked] writes:</DIV>
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rboxes,=20
  but not so for the BN1<BR>which does not have a dipstick. The BN1 box ha=
s a=20
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