Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 07:13:44 -0700

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Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual first.  If you're doing a 
drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual oil is left so 
you have to go by the dipstick anyway.

Bob

On 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 1)My car’s Driver’s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:
>
> my MkII BT7’s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)
>
> its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)
>
> 2)My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me that:
>
> gearbox               4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)
>
> Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30 US pts)
>
> 3)My Haynes manual goes for:
>
> Standard box:- 5 imp pts
>
> With overdrive:- 6.25 pts
>
> 4)My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes for:
>
> Standard box:- 5 imp pts
>
> With overdrive:- 6.25 pts
>
> ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.
>
> I’ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I’ve never noticed these 
> discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip stick, but I’d 
> bet that I’ve overfilled more than once.
>
> Any ideas? I don’t recall this coming up before.....
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
> (And I didn’t mention Redline once!)
>

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    Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual first.  If you're doing a
    drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual oil is
    left so you have to go by the dipstick anyway.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan
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          car’s Driver’s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">my MkII BT7’s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts
          (6.90 US pts) <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US
          pts)<o:p></o:p></p>
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          BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me that:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">gearbox               4.0 imp pts (4.80 US
          pts)<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp
          pts (6.30 US pts)<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Standard box:- 5 imp pts<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">With overdrive:- 6.25 pts              <o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style="font:7.0pt
              &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">      </span></span><!--[endif]-->My
          Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes for:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Standard box:- 5 imp pts<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">With overdrive:- 6.25 pts<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I’ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and
          I’ve never noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have
          survived by using the dip stick, but I’d bet that I’ve
          overfilled more than once.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Any ideas? I don’t recall this coming up
          before.....<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">(And I didn’t mention Redline once!)<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: "Simon Lachlan" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 22:13:56 +0100

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Thank you for your reply.

My curiosity is largely academic. I do tend to fill, dip, fill & dip until
it's right, but I would like to know where the official start line is!

Simon

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob
Spidell
Sent: 24 May 2015 15:14
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume

Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual first.  If you're doing a
drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual oil is left so you
have to go by the dipstick anyway.

Bob

Hi,

1)      My car's Driver's Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:

my MkII BT7's gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts) 

2)      My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me that:

3)      My Haynes manual goes for:

Standard box:- 5 imp pts

4)      My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes for:

Standard box:- 5 imp pts

I've had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I've never noticed these
discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip stick, but I'd bet
that I've overfilled more than once.

Any ideas? I don't recall this coming up before.....

Thanks,

Simon

(And I didn't mention Redline once!)

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lang=3DEN-GB link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your =
reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>My curiosity is largely academic. I do tend to =
fill, dip, fill &amp; dip until it&#8217;s right, but I would like to =
know where the official start line is!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 May 2015 15:14<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil =
volume<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual =
first.&nbsp; If you're doing a drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure =
how much residual oil is left so you have to go by the dipstick =
anyway.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 5/24/2015 =
6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My car&#8217;s Driver&#8217;s Handbook page 7, =
(AKD 3915A) tells me that:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>my MkII =
BT7&#8217;s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts) <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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</span></span><![endif]>My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me =
that:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>gearbox&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, =
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style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My Haynes manual goes for:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Standard box:- 5 imp pts<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>With overdrive:- 6.25 =
pts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes =
for:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Standard box:- 5 imp =
pts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>With overdrive:- 6.25 =
pts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I&#8217;ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and =
I&#8217;ve never noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have survived by =
using the dip stick, but I&#8217;d bet that I&#8217;ve overfilled more =
than once.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any ideas? I don&#8217;t recall this coming up =
before.....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>(And I =
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class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 07:54:52 +1000

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Greetings

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Well that=92s interesting as I will be buying the oil for the BN3=92s =
gearbox
this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a 22% OD that has been completely
rebuilt and apart from the oil used in the assembly it=92s completely =
empty.

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My 1968 BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in September =
1974
for $7.00 states that the oil capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted =
with
an OD is 6 =BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I states the =
same for
a centre-shift box as well. So I will be buying a 4 litre container and
store what=92s left over for the inevitable leaks.

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Talking about leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler SP250
over the weekend and he made mention that all things over 50 or 60 years =
of
age are bound to leak.

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Hoo Roo

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains

Australia

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob
Spidell
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume

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Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual first.  If you're doing a
drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual oil is left so =
you
have to go by the dipstick anyway.

Bob

Hi,

1)      My car=92s Driver=92s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me =
that:

my MkII BT7=92s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)=20

=20

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Standard box:- 5 imp pts

With overdrive:- 6.25 pts             =20

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Standard box:- 5 imp pts

=20

I=92ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=92ve never noticed these
discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip stick, but I=92d =
bet
that I=92ve overfilled more than once.

=20

Any ideas? I don=92t recall this coming up before.....

=20

Thanks,

Simon

(And I didn=92t mention Redline once!)

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lang=3DEN-AU link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Greetings<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Well that&#8217;s interesting as I will =
be buying the oil for the BN3&#8217;s gearbox this week. It is a 100S =
gearbox with a 22% OD that has been completely rebuilt and apart from =
the oil used in the assembly it&#8217;s completely =
empty.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>My 1968 BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) =
that I bought new in September 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil =
capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD is 6 &frac14; imp =
pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I states the same for a =
centre-shift box as well. So I will be buying a 4 litre container and =
store what&#8217;s left over for the inevitable =
leaks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Talking about leaks I was watching a =
Jay Leno video of his Daimler SP250 over the weekend and he made mention =
that all things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to =
leak.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Blue Mountains<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Gearbox oil volume<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual =
first.&nbsp; If you're doing a drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure =
how much residual oil is left so you have to go by the dipstick =
anyway.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 5/24/2015 =
6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My car&#8217;s Driver&#8217;s Handbook page 7, =
(AKD 3915A) tells me that:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>my MkII =
BT7&#8217;s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts) <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me =
that:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>gearbox&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, =
5.25 imp pts (6.30 US pts)<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My Haynes manual goes for:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Standard box:- 5 imp pts<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>With overdrive:- 6.25 =
pts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes =
for:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Standard box:- 5 imp =
pts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>With overdrive:- 6.25 =
pts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I&#8217;ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and =
I&#8217;ve never noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have survived by =
using the dip stick, but I&#8217;d bet that I&#8217;ve overfilled more =
than once.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any ideas? I don&#8217;t recall this coming up =
before.....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>(And I =
didn&#8217;t mention Redline once!)<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
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From: Keith Taylor <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 12:19:38 +1000

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My original BN1 1954 Service Manual has an  "ERRATUM '  sticker on the
inside cover stating :-

                                       Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity

                            The combined capacity of the Gearbox and
overdrive is
                             5 1/2 Imp. pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pints
as stated
                            After draining,  1/4 pint of oil will remain in
the overdrive
                            hydraulic system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 pints
will be required
                             for refilling.

                                      Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954

So when filling from rebuild add the extra 1/4 pint  ....   5 3/4 pints

Later editions may have carried the correction  and side and top
shift gearboxes may vary

Keith Taylor
southern Highlands OZ

On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Greetings
>
>
>
> Well that=E2=80=99s interesting as I will be buying the oil for the BN3=
=E2=80=99s gearbox
> rebuilt and apart from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=99s complete=
ly empty.
>
>
>
> My 1968 BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in September
> 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitt=
ed
> with an OD is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I states =
the
> same for a centre-shift box as well. So I will be buying a 4 litre
> container and store what=E2=80=99s left over for the inevitable leaks.
>
>
>
of
> age are bound to leak.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains
>
> Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Bo=
b
> Spidell
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume
>
>
>
> 1)      My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) te=
lls me that:
>
> my MkII BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)
>
> I=E2=80=99ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never noti=
ced these
> discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=
=80=99d bet
> that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.
>
>
>
> Any ideas? I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
> (And I didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>My original BN1 1954 Service Manual has an=C2=A0 &quo=
t;ERRATUM=C2=A0&#39; =C2=A0sticker on the inside cover stating :-</div><div=
><br></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity </div><div><br></div><div>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0The combined capacity of the Gearbox and overdrive is</div><div>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A05 1/2 Imp. pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pints as stated=
=C2=A0 </div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0After draining,=C2=A0=C2=A01/4 pint of oil w=
ill remain in the overdrive</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 hydraulic system, therefore =
,only 5 1/2 pints will be required</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for refilli=
ng.=C2=A0 </div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954</di=
v><div><br></div><div>So when filling from=C2=A0rebuild add the extra 1/4 p=
int=C2=A0 ....=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 3/4 pints</div><div><br></div><div>Later editi=
ons=C2=A0may have carried the correction=C2=A0 and=C2=A0side and top shift=
=C2=A0gearboxes may vary</div><div><br></div><div>Keith Taylor</div><div>so=
uthern Highlands OZ</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">p_c=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-AU" vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue" bgcolor=3D"white"><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;font-family:&quot;Tim=
es New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">Greetings<u></u><u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowt=
ext;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10p=
t">Well that=E2=80=99s interesting as I will be buying the oil for the BN3=
=E2=80=99s gearbox this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a 22% OD that has b=
een completely rebuilt and apart from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=
=99s completely empty.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"color:windowtext;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;se=
rif&quot;;font-size:10pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">My 1968 BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H)=
 that I bought new in September 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil capacity=
 for a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US p=
ints and 3.55 litres. I states the same for a centre-shift box as well. So =
I will be buying a 4 litre container and store what=E2=80=99s left over for=
 the inevitable leaks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"color:windowtext;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;se=
rif&quot;;font-size:10pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">Talking about leaks I was watching a Ja=
y Leno video of his Daimler SP250 over the weekend and he made mention that=
 all things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to leak.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;fon=
t-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">Hoo =
Roo<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:win=
dowtext;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size=
:10pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color:windowtext;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;font-size:10pt">Patrick Quinn<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,=
&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">Blue Mountains<u></u><u></u></span></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">Australia<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;bord=
er-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor current=
Color;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" s=
tyle=3D"color:windowtext;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:win=
dowtext;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10p=
t"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Sp=
idell<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Offhand, I&#3=
9;d believe the workshop manual first.=C2=A0 If you&#39;re doing a drain-an=
d-fill, you don&#39;t know for sure how much residual oil is left so you ha=
ve to go by the dipstick anyway.<br><br>Bob<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">On 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>=
</div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Hi,<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u><span>1)<span style=3D"font:7pt/nor=
mal &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>My car=E2=80=99s Driver=
=E2=80=99s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:<u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">my MkII BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 =
US pts) <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">its overdrive takes 1.33 i=
mp pts (1.75 US pts)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><=
u></u></p><p><u></u><span>2)<span style=3D"font:7pt/normal &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells =
me that:<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">gearbox=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 4.0 imp =
pts (4.80 US pts)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Total gearbox, ov=
erdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30 US pts)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u><span>3)<span style=3D"font:7pt/n=
ormal &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal=
">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>My Haynes manual goes=
 for:<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Standard box:- 5 imp pts<u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">With overdrive:- 6.25 pts=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <u></u><=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u><span>4)=
<span style=3D"font:7pt/normal &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-size-adjust=
:none;font-stretch:normal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u>=
</u>My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes for:<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Standard box:- 5 imp pts<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">With overdrive:- 6.25 pts<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">ie only Haynes and Autopress ag=
ree.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve had this Healey f=
or +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never noticed these discrepancies! I seem =
to have survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=80=99d bet that I=E2=80=
=99ve overfilled more than once.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any ideas? I don=E2=80=99t r=
ecall this coming up before.....<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">(And I di=
dn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></p=
></blockquote><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p></div></div></div></div><br>________________________________________=
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From: "Simon Lachlan" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:47:12 +0100

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That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like they got the whole thing =
into a muddle on Day One and never really recovered.

Makes trial and error, one of my usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in =
the circs.

Simon

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Keith =
Taylor
Sent: 25 May 2015 03:20
To: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume

=20

My original BN1 1954 Service Manual has an  "ERRATUM '  sticker on the =
inside cover stating :-

=20

                                       Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity=20

=20

                            The combined capacity of the Gearbox and =
overdrive is

                             5 1/2 Imp. pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp =
pints as stated =20

                            After draining,  1/4 pint of oil will remain =
in the overdrive

                            hydraulic system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 =
pints will be required

                             for refilling. =20

                           =20

=20

=20

Later editions may have carried the correction  and side and top shift =
gearboxes may vary

=20

Keith Taylor

southern Highlands OZ

=20

On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

Greetings

=20

Well that=E2=80=99s interesting as I will be buying the oil for the =
BN3=E2=80=99s gearbox this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a 22% OD that =
has been completely rebuilt and apart from the oil used in the assembly =
it=E2=80=99s completely empty.

=20

My 1968 BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in September =
1974 for $7.00 states that the oil capacity for a side-shift gearbox =
fitted with an OD is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I =
states the same for a centre-shift box as well. So I will be buying a 4 =
litre container and store what=E2=80=99s left over for the inevitable =
leaks.

=20

Talking about leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler SP250 =
over the weekend and he made mention that all things over 50 or 60 years =
of age are bound to leak.

=20

Hoo Roo

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains

Australia

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume

=20

Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual first.  If you're doing a =
drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual oil is left so =
you have to go by the dipstick anyway.

Bob

Hi,

1)      My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) =
tells me that:

my MkII BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)=20

=20

=20

Standard box:- 5 imp pts

=20

Standard box:- 5 imp pts

=20

I=E2=80=99ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never =
noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip =
stick, but I=E2=80=99d bet that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.

=20

=20

Thanks,

Simon

=20

              =20

=20

[email-masked]

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like they got the whole thing =
into a muddle on Day One and never really =
recovered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Makes trial and error, one of my usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible =
in the circs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keith =
Taylor<br><b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2015 03:20<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil =
volume<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My =
original BN1 1954 Service Manual has an&nbsp; &quot;ERRATUM&nbsp;' =
&nbsp;sticker on the inside cover stating :-<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;The combined capacity of the Gearbox =
and overdrive is<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;5 1/2 Imp. pints (dry) and not =
4 1/2 Imp pints as stated&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;After draining,&nbsp;&nbsp;1/4 pint =
of oil will remain in the overdrive<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; hydraulic system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 =
pints will be required<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for refilling.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; &nbsp; Pubs. 996B and 997A December =
1954<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So when filling from&nbsp;rebuild add the extra 1/4 =
pint&nbsp; ....&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 3/4 pints<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Later editions&nbsp;may have carried the =
correction&nbsp; and&nbsp;side and top shift&nbsp;gearboxes may =
vary<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Keith Taylor<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>southern Highlands =
OZ<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 25 =
May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Greetings</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Well that=E2=80=99s interesting =
as I will be buying the oil for the BN3=E2=80=99s gearbox this week. It =
is a 100S gearbox with a 22% OD that has been completely rebuilt and =
apart from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=99s completely =
empty.</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>My 1968 BMC Workshop Manual (AKD =
1179H) that I bought new in September 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil =
capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD is 6 =C2=BC imp =
pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I states the same for a =
centre-shift box as well. So I will be buying a 4 litre container and =
store what=E2=80=99s left over for the inevitable leaks.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Talking about leaks I was =
watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler SP250 over the weekend and he =
made mention that all things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to =
leak.</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hoo Roo</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Patrick Quinn</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Blue Mountains</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Australia</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual first.&nbsp; If =
you're doing a drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual =
oil is left so you have to go by the dipstick =
anyway.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>On 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>1)</span><span lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s Handbook page 7, (AKD =
3915A) tells me that:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>my MkII BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US =
pts) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>2)</span><span lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me =
that:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>gearbox&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30 US =
pts)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>3)</span><span lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>My Haynes manual goes for:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Standard box:- 5 imp pts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>With overdrive:- 6.25 =
pts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>4)</span><span lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes =
for:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Standard box:- 5 imp pts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>With overdrive:- 6.25 pts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>I=E2=80=99ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and =
I=E2=80=99ve never noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have survived =
by using the dip stick, but I=E2=80=99d bet that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled =
more than once.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Any ideas? I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up =
before.....<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>(And I didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline =
once!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p =
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Never bother about the quantity, just fill right up until the oil 
overflows the filler plug hole, both overdrive and gearbox if they are 
separate.
When brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings, selector forks, OD parts) 
do not use EP "gearbox oil". Use straight oil, special oil e.g Redline 
or 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in the box.
Kees Oudesluijs

Simon Lachlan schreef op 25-5-2015 om 11:47:
>
> That’s very interesting. Seems like they got the whole thing into a 
> muddle on Day One and never really recovered.
>
> Makes trial and error, one of my usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible 
> in the circs.
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Keith Taylor
> *Sent:* 25 May 2015 03:20
> *To:* healeys
>                              5 1/2 Imp. pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp 
> pints as stated
>
>                             After draining,  1/4 pint of oil will 
> remain in the overdrive
>
>                             hydraulic system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 
> pints will be required
>
>                              for refilling.
>
> On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <[email-masked] 
>
> Greetings
>
> Well that’s interesting as I will be buying the oil for the BN3’s 
> gearbox this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a 22% OD that has been 
> completely rebuilt and apart from the oil used in the assembly it’s 
> completely empty.
>
> 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil capacity for a side-shift gearbox 
> fitted with an OD is 6 ¼ imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I 
> states the same for a centre-shift box as well. So I will be buying a 
> 4 litre container and store what’s left over for the inevitable leaks.
>
> Talking about leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler 
> SP250 over the weekend and he made mention that all things over 50 or 
> 60 years of age are bound to leak.
>
> Hoo Roo
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains
>
> Australia
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:[email-masked] 
> drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual oil is left 
> so you have to go by the dipstick anyway.
>
> Bob
>
>     discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip stick, but
>     I’d bet that I’ve overfilled more than once.
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Never bother about the quantity, just
      fill right up until the oil overflows the filler plug hole, both
      overdrive and gearbox if they are separate. <br>
      When brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings, selector forks, OD
      parts) do not use EP "gearbox oil". Use straight oil, special oil
      e.g Redline or 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in the box.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Simon Lachlan schreef op 25-5-2015 om 11:47:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>That’s very interesting. Seems like
            they got the whole thing into a muddle on Day One and never
            really recovered.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Makes trial and error, one of my
            usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in the circs.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
              lang="EN-US"> Healeys
              [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keith
              Taylor<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2015 03:20<br>
              <b>To:</b> healeys<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</span></p>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">My original BN1 1954 Service Manual has
              an  "ERRATUM '  sticker on the inside cover stating :-</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">                                      
              Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">                            The
              combined capacity of the Gearbox and overdrive is</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">                             5 1/2 Imp.
              pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pints as stated  </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">                            After
              draining,  1/4 pint of oil will remain in the overdrive</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">                            hydraulic
              system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 pints will be required</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">                             for
              refilling.  </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">                            </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">                                     
              Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">So when filling from rebuild add the
              extra 1/4 pint  ....   5 3/4 pints</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Later editions may have carried the
              correction  and side and top shift gearboxes may vary</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Keith Taylor</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">southern Highlands OZ</p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick &amp;
              Caroline Quinn &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:</p>
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Greetings</span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Well that’s
                    interesting as I will be buying the oil for the
                    BN3’s gearbox this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a
                    22% OD that has been completely rebuilt and apart
                    from the oil used in the assembly it’s completely
                    empty.</span><span lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">My 1968 BMC
                    Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in
                    September 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil
                    capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD
                    is 6 ¼ imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I
                    states the same for a centre-shift box as well. So I
                    will be buying a 4 litre container and store what’s
                    left over for the inevitable leaks.</span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Talking about
                    leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler
                    SP250 over the weekend and he made mention that all
                    things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to leak.</span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Hoo Roo</span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Patrick Quinn</span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Blue Mountains</span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Australia</span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                    lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                        lang="EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                          target="_blank">[email-masked]</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                          target="_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</span><span
                        lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Offhand, I'd
                        believe the workshop manual first.  If you're
                        doing a drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure
                        how much residual oil is left so you have to go
                        by the dipstick anyway.<br>
                        <br>
                        Bob</span></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">On
                          5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Hi,</span></p>
                      <p><span lang="EN-AU">1)</span><span lang="EN-AU">     
                        </span><span lang="EN-AU">My car’s Driver’s
                          Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">my MkII
                          BT7’s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)
                        </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">its
                          overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                      <p><span lang="EN-AU">2)</span><span lang="EN-AU">     
                        </span><span lang="EN-AU">My BMC Workshop Manual
                          (AKD 1179D) tells me that:</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">gearbox              
                          4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Total
                          gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30
                          US pts)</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                      <p><span lang="EN-AU">3)</span><span lang="EN-AU">     
                        </span><span lang="EN-AU">My Haynes manual goes
                          for:</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Standard
                          box:- 5 imp pts</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">With
                          overdrive:- 6.25 pts              </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                      <p><span lang="EN-AU">4)</span><span lang="EN-AU">     
                        </span><span lang="EN-AU">My Autopress manual
                          (Kenneth Ball) goes for:</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Standard
                          box:- 5 imp pts</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">With
                          overdrive:- 6.25 pts</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">ie only
                          Haynes and Autopress agree.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I’ve had
                          this Healey for +/- 20 years and I’ve never
                          noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have
                          survived by using the dip stick, but I’d bet
                          that I’ve overfilled more than once.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Any ideas?
                          I don’t recall this coming up before.....</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Thanks,</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Simon</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">(And I
                          didn’t mention Redline once!)</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">              
                        </span></p>
                    </blockquote>
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I agree with Kees--you really cannot overfill the box and even if you do
the car will leak oil anyway so at worst you will have a larger puddle of
oil under the car.  Do be sure to use an oil with a GL4 rating or your
yellow metal parts (synchro rings, etc) will not be very happy.  I
recommend RedLine MTL or MT90.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Oudesluys <[email-masked]> wrote:

> do not use EP "gearbox oil". Use straight oil, special oil e.g Redline or
> 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in the box.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>  That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like they got the whole thing int=
o a
> Makes trial and error, one of my usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in
> the circs.
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> Simon
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>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I agr=
ee with Kees--you really cannot overfill the box and even if you do the car=
 will leak oil anyway so at worst you will have a larger puddle of oil unde=
r the car.=C2=A0 Do be sure to use an oil with a GL4 rating or your yellow =
metal parts (synchro rings, etc) will not be very happy.=C2=A0 I recommend =
RedLine MTL or MT90.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333=
ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Mi=
chael Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Oudesluys <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
l</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    <div>Never bother about the quantity, just
      fill right up until the oil overflows the filler plug hole, both
      overdrive and gearbox if they are separate. <br>
      When brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings, selector forks, OD
      parts) do not use EP &quot;gearbox oil&quot;. Use straight oil, speci=
al oil
      e.g Redline or 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in the box.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Simon Lachlan schreef op 25-5-2015 om 11:47:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
      <div><span class=3D"">
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems=
 like
            they got the whole thing into a muddle on Day One and never
            really recovered.</span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Makes trial and error, one of my
            usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in the circs.</span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
        </span><div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys
              [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keit=
h
              Taylor<span class=3D""><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2015 03:20<br>
              <b>To:</b> healeys<br>
              </span></span></p><div><div class=3D"h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</div></div><p></p>
        </div><div><div class=3D"h5">
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">My original BN1 1954 Service Manual has
              an=C2=A0 &quot;ERRATUM=C2=A0&#39; =C2=A0sticker on the inside=
 cover stating :-</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0
              Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0The
              combined capacity of the Gearbox and overdrive is</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A05 1/2 Imp.
              pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pints as stated=C2=A0 </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0After
              draining,=C2=A0=C2=A01/4 pint of oil will remain in the overd=
rive</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 hydraulic
              system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 pints will be required</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for
              refilling.=C2=A0 </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0
              Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">So when filling from=C2=A0rebuild add th=
e
              extra 1/4 pint=C2=A0 ....=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 3/4 pints</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Later editions=C2=A0may have carried the
              correction=C2=A0 and=C2=A0side and top shift=C2=A0gearboxes m=
ay vary</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Keith Taylor</p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">southern Highlands OZ</p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick &amp;
              Caroline Quinn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:</p>
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Greetings</span=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Well that=E2=80=
=99s
                    interesting as I will be buying the oil for the
                    BN3=E2=80=99s gearbox this week. It is a 100S gearbox w=
ith a
                    22% OD that has been completely rebuilt and apart
                    from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=99s complete=
ly
                    empty.</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My 1968 BMC
                    Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in
                    September 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil
                    capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD
                    is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I
                    states the same for a centre-shift box as well. So I
                    will be buying a 4 litre container and store what=E2=80=
=99s
                    left over for the inevitable leaks.</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Talking about
                    leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler
                    SP250 over the weekend and he made mention that all
                    things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to leak.</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Hoo Roo</span><=
span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Patrick Quinn</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Blue Mountains<=
/span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Australia</span=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</s=
pan></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bou=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</spa=
n></p>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Offhand, I&=
#39;d
                        believe the workshop manual first.=C2=A0 If you&#39=
;re
                        doing a drain-and-fill, you don&#39;t know for sure
                        how much residual oil is left so you have to go
                        by the dipstick anyway.<br>
                        <br>
                        Bob</span></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">On
                          5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:</span></p=
                    </div>
                    <blockquote>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Hi,</span=
></p>
                      <p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">1)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
                        </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My car=E2=80=99s Driver=
=E2=80=99s
                          Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:</span=
></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">my MkII
                          BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US=
 pts)
                        </span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">its
                          overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)</span>=
</p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
                      <p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">2)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
                        </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My BMC Workshop Manual
                          (AKD 1179D) tells me that:</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">gearbox=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0
                          4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Total
                          gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30
                          US pts)</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
                      <p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">3)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
                        </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My Haynes manual goes
                          for:</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Standard
                          box:- 5 imp pts</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">With
                          overdrive:- 6.25 pts=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
                      <p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">4)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
                        </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My Autopress manual
                          (Kenneth Ball) goes for:</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Standard
                          box:- 5 imp pts</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">With
                          overdrive:- 6.25 pts</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">ie only
                          Haynes and Autopress agree.</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">I=E2=80=
=99ve had
                          this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve nev=
er
                          noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have
                          survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=80=99d =
bet
                          that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.</spa=
n></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Any ideas=
?
                          I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....=
</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Thanks,</=
span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Simon</sp=
an></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">(And I
                          didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)</span></p>
                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
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I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first time since taking ownersh=
ip; just to be sure that I know what is in there; and I don't want to start=
 another gearbox oil discussion. .....However so many people recommend MTL =
or MT90 that are both synthetic.I am a little reluctant to as don't need an=
y new oil leaks with synthetic; maybe already have synthetic ,,,.?Anyhow fo=
r convenience was planning to use same as use in engine - Valvoline VR1 20-=
50Any thoughts regarding synthetic oil and gearbox leaks from more experien=
ced users appreciated.rg
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
To: Oudesluys <[email-masked]>
Cc: Austin Healey <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, 25 May 2015 05:08:10 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume

I agree with Kees--you really cannot overfill the box and even if you do th=
e car will leak oil anyway so at worst you will have a larger puddle of oil=
 under the car.  Do be sure to use an oil with a GL4 rating or your yellow =
metal parts (synchro rings, etc) will not be very happy.  I recommend RedLi=
ne MTL or MT90.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Oudesluys <[email-masked]> wrote:
Never bother about the quantity, just
 fill right up until the oil overflows the filler plug hole, both
 overdrive and gearbox if they are separate.=20

When brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings, selector forks, OD
 parts) do not use EP "gearbox oil". Use straight oil, special oil
 e.g Redline or 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in the box.

Kees Oudesluijs

Simon Lachlan schreef op 25-5-2015 om 11:47:
That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like
 they got the whole thing into a muddle on Day One and never
 really recovered.Makes trial and error, one of my
 usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in the circs.Simon From: Healeys
 [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Keith
 Taylor
Sent: 25 May 2015 03:20
To: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume
 My original BN1 1954 Service Manual has
 an  "ERRATUM '  sticker on the inside cover stating :-                    =
                  =20
 Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity                             The
 combined capacity of the Gearbox and overdrive is                         =
    5 1/2 Imp.
 pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pints as stated                             =
After
 draining,  1/4 pint of oil will remain in the overdrive                   =
         hydraulic
 system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 pints will be required                      =
       for
 refilling.                                                                =
=20
 Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954 So when filling from rebuild add the
 extra 1/4 pint  ....   5 3/4 pints Later editions may have carried the
 correction  and side and top shift gearboxes may vary Keith Taylorsouthern=
 Highlands OZ On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick &
 Caroline Quinn <[email-masked]>
 wrote:Greetings Well that=E2=80=99s
 interesting as I will be buying the oil for the
 BN3=E2=80=99s gearbox this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a
 22% OD that has been completely rebuilt and apart
 from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=99s completely
 empty. My 1968 BMC
 Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in
 September 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil
 capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD
 is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I
 states the same for a centre-shift box as well. So I
 will be buying a 4 litre container and store what=E2=80=99s
 left over for the inevitable leaks. Talking about
 leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler
 SP250 over the weekend and he made mention that all
 things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to leak. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn=
Blue MountainsAustralia From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]=
t]
 On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM
To:[email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume Offhand, I'd
 believe the workshop manual first.  If you're
 doing a drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure
 how much residual oil is left so you have to go
 by the dipstick anyway.

 BobOn
 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:Hi,1)    =20
 My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s
 Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:my MkII
 BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)
 its
 overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts) 2)    =20
 My BMC Workshop Manual
 (AKD 1179D) tells me that:gearbox             =20
 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)Total
 gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30
 US pts) 3)    =20
 My Haynes manual goes
 for:Standard
 box:- 5 imp ptsWith
 overdrive:- 6.25 pts               4)    =20
 My Autopress manual
 (Kenneth Ball) goes for:Standard
 box:- 5 imp ptsWith
 overdrive:- 6.25 pts ie only
 Haynes and Autopress agree.I=E2=80=99ve had
 this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never
 noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have
 survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=80=99d bet
 that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once. Any ideas?
 I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before..... Thanks,Simon(And I
 didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)              =20
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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;}</style></head><body><div>=
I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first time since taking ownersh=
ip; just to be sure that I know what is in there; </div><div>and I don't wa=
nt to start another gearbox oil discussion. .....</div><div>However so many=
 people recommend MTL or MT90 that are both synthetic.</div><div>I am a lit=
tle reluctant to as don't need any new oil leaks with synthetic; maybe alre=
ady have synthetic ,,,.?</div><div>Anyhow for convenience was planning to u=
se same as use in engine - Valvoline VR1 20-50</div><div>Any thoughts regar=
ding synthetic oil and gearbox leaks from more experienced users appreciate=
d.</div><div>rg</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>Fr=
om: Michael Oritt &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: Oudesluys &lt;coud=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>Cc: Austin Healey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<b=
r>Sent: Mon, 25 May 2015 05:08:10 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gea=
rbox oil volume<br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;">I agr=
ee with Kees--you really cannot overfill the box and even if you do the car=
 will leak oil anyway so at worst you will have a larger puddle of oil unde=
r the car.&nbsp; Do be sure to use an oil with a GL4 rating or your yellow =
metal parts (synchro rings, etc) will not be very happy.&nbsp; I recommend =
RedLine MTL or MT90.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333=
ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Best--Michael=
 Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Oudesluys <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-lef=
t: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>Never bother about the qua=
ntity, just<br> fill right up until the oil overflows the filler plug hole,=
 both<br> overdrive and gearbox if they are separate. <br><div><br></div>Wh=
en brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings, selector forks, OD<br> parts) =
do not use EP "gearbox oil". Use straight oil, special oil<br> e.g Redline =
or 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in the box.<br><div><br></div>Kees =
Oudesluijs<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>Simon Lachlan schreef op 25=
-5-2015 om 11:47:<br></div><blockquote><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Th=
at=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like<br> they got the whole thing into=
 a muddle on Day One and never<br> really recovered.</span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span>Makes trial and error, one of my<br> usual fallbacks, seem=
 quite sensible in the circs.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon<=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Heal=
eys<br> [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bo=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keith<br> Taylor<span class=
=3D""><br><b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2015 03:20<br><b>To:</b> healeys<br></span></=
span></p><div><div class=3D"h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil v=
olume</div></div><p><br></p></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My original BN1 1954 Servic=
e Manual has<br> an&nbsp; "ERRATUM&nbsp;' &nbsp;sticker on the inside cover=
 stating :-</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; &nbsp;<br> Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity</p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;The<br> c=
ombined capacity of the Gearbox and overdrive is</p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;5 1/2 Imp.<br> pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp =
pints as stated&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Aft=
er<br> draining,&nbsp;&nbsp;1/4 pint of oil will remain in the overdrive</p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; hydraulic<br> system, therefore =
,only 5 1/2 pints will be required</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for<br> refilling.&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<br> Pubs. 996B and 997A Decem=
ber 1954</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">So when filling from&nbsp;rebuild add the<br> extra 1/4 pint=
&nbsp; ....&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 3/4 pints</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&n=
bsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Later editions&nbsp;may have carr=
ied the<br> correction&nbsp; and&nbsp;side and top shift&nbsp;gearboxes may=
 vary</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Keith Taylor</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">southern High=
lands OZ</p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick &amp;<br> Caroline Quinn &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br> wrote:</p><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Greetings</span><span lan=
g=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"E=
N-AU">Well that=E2=80=99s<br> interesting as I will be buying the oil for t=
he<br> BN3=E2=80=99s gearbox this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a<br> 22%=
 OD that has been completely rebuilt and apart<br> from the oil used in the=
 assembly it=E2=80=99s completely<br> empty.</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My 1968 B=
MC<br> Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in<br> September 1974 =
for $7.00 states that the oil<br> capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted =
with an OD<br> is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I<br> s=
tates the same for a centre-shift box as well. So I<br> will be buying a 4 =
litre container and store what=E2=80=99s<br> left over for the inevitable l=
eaks.</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Talking about<br> leaks I was watching a Jay Len=
o video of his Daimler<br> SP250 over the weekend and he made mention that =
all<br> things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to leak.</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;<=
/span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"=
EN-AU">Hoo Roo</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Patrick Quinn</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU=
"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Blue Mountains</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-=
AU">Australia</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>]<br> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<b=
r><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM<br><b>To:</b><a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Gearbox oil volume</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p></div></div><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Offhand, I'd<br> believe the workshop m=
anual first.&nbsp; If you're<br> doing a drain-and-fill, you don't know for=
 sure<br> how much residual oil is left so you have to go<br> by the dipsti=
ck anyway.<br></span></p><div><br></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-AU"><br> Bob</span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-=
AU">On<br> 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:</span></p></div><blockqu=
ote><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Hi,</span></p><p><span lang=
=3D"EN-AU">1)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>=
 </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s<br> Handbook=
 page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-AU">my MkII<br> BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 U=
S pts)<br> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">its<br> o=
verdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">2)</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> </span><span lang=3D"EN=
-AU">My BMC Workshop Manual<br> (AKD 1179D) tells me that:</span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">gearbox&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> 4.0 imp pts (4.8=
0 US pts)</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Total<br> g=
earbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30<br> US pts)</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-AU=
">3)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> </span><=
span lang=3D"EN-AU">My Haynes manual goes<br> for:</span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Standard<br> box:- 5 imp pts</span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">With<br> overdrive:- 6.25 pts&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-AU">4)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;<br> </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My Autopress manual<br> (Kenneth Ball) g=
oes for:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Standard<br>=
 box:- 5 imp pts</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">With=
<br> overdrive:- 6.25 pts</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN=
-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">ie only<b=
r> Haynes and Autopress agree.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-AU">I=E2=80=99ve had<br> this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99=
ve never<br> noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have<br> survived by us=
ing the dip stick, but I=E2=80=99d bet<br> that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled mor=
e than once.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Any ideas?<br> I don=
=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-AU">Thanks,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Si=
mon</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">(And I<br> didn=
=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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N-AU">&nbsp;</span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><=
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MT 90. No question!

Price Lindsay
67 BJ8

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 25, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Roggrace <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first time since taking owners=
hip; just to be sure that I know what is in there;
> and I don't want to start another gearbox oil discussion. .....
> However so many people recommend MTL or MT90 that are both synthetic.
> I am a little reluctant to as don't need any new oil leaks with synthetic;=
 maybe already have synthetic ,,,.?
> Anyhow for convenience was planning to use same as use in engine - Valvoli=
ne VR1 20-50
> Any thoughts regarding synthetic oil and gearbox leaks from more experienc=
ed users appreciated.
> rg
> I agree with Kees--you really cannot overfill the box and even if you do t=
he car will leak oil anyway so at worst you will have a larger puddle of oil=
 under the car.  Do be sure to use an oil with a GL4 rating or your yellow m=
etal parts (synchro rings, etc) will not be very happy.  I recommend RedLine=
 MTL or MT90.
>=20
> Best--Michael Oritt
>=20
>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Oudesluys <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>> really recovered.
>> Makes trial and error, one of my
>> usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in the circs.
>>=20
>> Simon
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: Healeys
>> an  "ERRATUM '  sticker on the inside cover stating :-
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>>                                      =20
>>                             The
>> combined capacity of the Gearbox and overdrive is
>>=20
>>                              5 1/2 Imp.
>> pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pints as stated=20
>>=20
>>                             After
>> draining,  1/4 pint of oil will remain in the overdrive
>>=20
>>                             hydraulic
>> system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 pints will be required
>>=20
>>                              for
>> refilling.=20
>>=20
>>                           =20
>>=20
>>                                     =20
>> Later editions may have carried the
>> correction  and side and top shift gearboxes may vary
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Keith Taylor
>>=20
>> southern Highlands OZ
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Well that=E2=80=99s
>> My 1968 BMC
>> left over for the inevitable leaks.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Talking about
>> things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to leak.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Hoo Roo
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Patrick Quinn
>>=20
>> Blue Mountains
>>=20
>> Australia
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]]
>> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
>> Offhand, I'd
>> 1)    =20
>> Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:
>>=20
>> my MkII
>> overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> 2)    =20
>> My BMC Workshop Manual
>> (AKD 1179D) tells me that:
>>=20
>> gearbox             =20
>> 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)
>>=20
>> Total
>> US pts)
>> 3)    =20
>> for:
>> Standard
>> box:- 5 imp pts
>> 4)    =20
>> (Kenneth Ball) goes for:
>> Standard
>> box:- 5 imp pts
>> With
>> overdrive:- 6.25 pts
>> I=E2=80=99ve had
>> Any ideas?
>> I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>>=20
>> Simon
>>=20
>> (And I
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>MT 90. No question!<br><br>Price Linds=
ay<div><div>67 BJ8</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPho=
ne</div></div></div><div><br>On May 25, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Roggrace &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></=
div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000=
; font-size:12pt; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;}</sty=
le><div>I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first time since taking o=
wnership; just to be sure that I know what is in there; </div><div>and I don=
't want to start another gearbox oil discussion. .....</div><div>However so m=
any people recommend MTL or MT90 that are both synthetic.</div><div>I am a l=
ittle reluctant to as don't need any new oil leaks with synthetic; maybe alr=
eady have synthetic ,,,.?</div><div>Anyhow for convenience was planning to u=
se same as use in engine - Valvoline VR1 20-50</div><div>Any thoughts regard=
ing synthetic oil and gearbox leaks from more experienced users appreciated.=
</div><div>rg</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From:=
 Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">michael.oritt@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Oudesluys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.=
nl">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: Austin Healey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, 25 May=
 2015 05:08:10 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume<br><=
/div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"c=
olor:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;">I agree with Kees--you real=
ly cannot overfill the box and even if you do the car will leak oil anyway s=
o at worst you will have a larger puddle of oil under the car.&nbsp; Do be s=
ure to use an oil with a GL4 rating or your yellow metal parts (synchro ring=
s, etc) will not be very happy.&nbsp; I recommend RedLine MTL or MT90.</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color=
: #3333ff;"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" d=
ata-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM=
, Oudesluys <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">coudesluijs@=
chello.nl</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-sty=
le=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><=
div><div>Never bother about the quantity, just<br> fill right up until the o=
il overflows the filler plug hole, both<br> overdrive and gearbox if they ar=
e separate. <br><div><br></div>When brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings=
, selector forks, OD<br> parts) do not use EP "gearbox oil". Use straight oi=
l, special oil<br> e.g Redline or 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in th=
e box.<br><div><br></div>Kees Oudesluijs<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></di=
v>Simon Lachlan schreef op 25-5-2015 om 11:47:<br></div><blockquote><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span>That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like<br> the=
y got the whole thing into a muddle on Day One and never<br> really recovere=
d.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Makes trial and error, one of my<b=
r> usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in the circs.</span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><=
/p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys<br> [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keith<br> T=
aylor<span class=3D""><br><b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2015 03:20<br><b>To:</b> heale=
ys<br></span></span></p><div><div class=3D"h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]=
 Gearbox oil volume</div></div><p><br></p></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My original BN1=
 1954 Service Manual has<br> an&nbsp; "ERRATUM&nbsp;' &nbsp;sticker on the i=
nside cover stating :-</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<br> Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity</p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;The<br=
> combined capacity of the Gearbox and overdrive is</p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;5 1/2 Imp.<br> pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pi=
nts as stated&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;After<br=
> draining,&nbsp;&nbsp;1/4 pint of oil will remain in the overdrive</p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; hydraulic<br> system, therefore ,only 5 1=
/2 pints will be required</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; for<br> refilling.&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<br> Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954</p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So wh=
en filling from&nbsp;rebuild add the<br> extra 1/4 pint&nbsp; ....&nbsp;&nbs=
p; 5 3/4 pints</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Later editions&nbsp;may have carried the<br> correction&n=
bsp; and&nbsp;side and top shift&nbsp;gearboxes may vary</p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Keith Taylor</=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">southern Highlands OZ</p></div></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 25 May 201=
5 at 07:54, Patrick &amp;<br> Caroline Quinn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@=
tpg.com.au" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">p=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br> wrote:</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU">Greetings</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Well that=E2=80=99s<br> intere=
sting as I will be buying the oil for the<br> BN3=E2=80=99s gearbox this wee=
k. It is a 100S gearbox with a<br> 22% OD that has been completely rebuilt a=
nd apart<br> from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=99s completely<br> e=
mpty.</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My 1968 BMC<br> Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I b=
ought new in<br> September 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil<br> capacity f=
or a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD<br> is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US p=
ints and 3.55 litres. I<br> states the same for a centre-shift box as well. S=
o I<br> will be buying a 4 litre container and store what=E2=80=99s<br> left=
 over for the inevitable leaks.</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Talking about<br> leaks I=
 was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler<br> SP250 over the weekend and=
 he made mention that all<br> things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to=
 leak.</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Hoo Roo</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Patrick Quinn</span><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Blu=
e Mountains</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-AU">Australia</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></=
p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><=
span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net">[email-masked]</a>]<br> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spi=
dell<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM<br><b>To:</b><a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:heale=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healey=
s] Gearbox oil volume</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p></div></div><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Offhand, I'd<br> believe the workshop manua=
l first.&nbsp; If you're<br> doing a drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure=
<br> how much residual oil is left so you have to go<br> by the dipstick any=
way.<br></span></p><div><br></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU=
"><br> Bob</span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">On<br>=
 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Hi,</span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">1=
)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> </span><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s<br> Handbook page 7, (AKD 3=
915A) tells me that:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">m=
y MkII<br> BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)<br> </span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">its<br> overdrive takes 1.3=
3 imp pts (1.75 US pts)</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU=
">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">2)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My BMC Workshop M=
anual<br> (AKD 1179D) tells me that:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-AU">gearbox&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)</span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Total<br> gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5=
.25 imp pts (6.30<br> US pts)</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">3)</span><span lang=3D"EN-A=
U">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My Haynes m=
anual goes<br> for:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">St=
andard<br> box:- 5 imp pts</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN=
-AU">With<br> overdrive:- 6.25 pts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">4)</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My=
 Autopress manual<br> (Kenneth Ball) goes for:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Standard<br> box:- 5 imp pts</span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">With<br> overdrive:- 6.25 pts</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">ie only<br> Haynes and Autopress agree.</span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">I=E2=80=99ve had<br> this Healey f=
or +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never<br> noticed these discrepancies! I se=
em to have<br> survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=80=99d bet<br> that=
 I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-=
AU">Any ideas?<br> I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....</span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Thanks,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-AU">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU=
">(And I<br> didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)</span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
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I have conducted "experiential" non-scientific experiments re synthetic
versus dino transmission oil in my Elva Courier race car--equipped with an
MGA gearbox.  Without a doubt shifting is faster with the synthetic (MT90)
with less crunching of synchros.  Leaking does not appear to be any
different.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Price Lindsay <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first time since taking
> ownership; just to be sure that I know what is in there;
> I am a little reluctant to as don't need any new oil leaks with synthetic=
;
> Anyhow for convenience was planning to use same as use in engine -
> Valvoline VR1 20-50
> Any thoughts regarding synthetic oil and gearbox leaks from more
> experienced users appreciated.
> rg
>
>> overdrive and gearbox if they are separate.
>>
>> *From:* Healeys
>> [mailto:[email-masked] <[email-masked]>]=
 *On
>> Behalf Of *Keith
>> pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pints as stated
>>
>>                             After
>> refilling.
>> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]]
>> *On Behalf Of *Bob Spidell
>> *To:[email-masked]
>> 1)
>> 2)
>> 3)
>> 4)
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I hav=
e conducted &quot;experiential&quot; non-scientific experiments re syntheti=
c versus dino transmission oil in my Elva Courier race car--equipped with a=
n MGA gearbox.=C2=A0 Without a doubt shifting is faster with the synthetic =
(MT90) with less crunching of synchros.=C2=A0 Leaking does not appear to be=
 any different.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael=
 Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Price Lindsay <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>MT =
90. No question!<br><br>Price Lindsay<div><div>67 BJ8</div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div></div><div><div class=3D"=
h5"><div><br>On May 25, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Roggrace &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ro=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><b=
r></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>I am about to change my g/b and=
 o/d oil for first time since taking ownership; just to be sure that I know=
 what is in there; </div><div>and I don&#39;t want to start another gearbox=
 oil discussion. .....</div><div>However so many people recommend MTL or MT=
90 that are both synthetic.</div><div>I am a little reluctant to as don&#39=
;t need any new oil leaks with synthetic; maybe already have synthetic ,,,.=
?</div><div>Anyhow for convenience was planning to use same as use in engin=
e - Valvoline VR1 20-50</div><div>Any thoughts regarding synthetic oil and =
gearbox leaks from more experienced users appreciated.</div><div>rg</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Michael Oritt &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Oudesluys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.=
nl" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: Austin Healey &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, 25 May 2015 05:08:10 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject=
: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume<br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I agree with Kees--yo=
u really cannot overfill the box and even if you do the car will leak oil a=
nyway so at worst you will have a larger puddle of oil under the car.=C2=A0=
 Do be sure to use an oil with a GL4 rating or your yellow metal parts (syn=
chro rings, etc) will not be very happy.=C2=A0 I recommend RedLine MTL or M=
T90.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Ma=
y 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Oudesluys <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:co=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Never bother about the =
quantity, just<br> fill right up until the oil overflows the filler plug ho=
le, both<br> overdrive and gearbox if they are separate. <br><div><br></div=
>When brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings, selector forks, OD<br> part=
s) do not use EP &quot;gearbox oil&quot;. Use straight oil, special oil<br>=
 e.g Redline or 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in the box.<br><div><b=
r></div>Kees Oudesluijs<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>Simon Lachlan =
schreef op 25-5-2015 om 11:47:<br></div><blockquote><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span>That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like<br> they got the who=
le thing into a muddle on Day One and never<br> really recovered.</span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Makes trial and error, one of my<br> usual fa=
llbacks, seem quite sensible in the circs.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span>Simon</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D=
"EN-US"> Healeys<br> [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of <=
/b>Keith<br> Taylor<span><br><b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2015 03:20<br><b>To:</b> h=
ealeys<br></span></span></p><div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox=
 oil volume</div></div><p><br></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=C2=A0</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My original BN1 1954 Service Man=
ual has<br> an=C2=A0 &quot;ERRATUM=C2=A0&#39; =C2=A0sticker on the inside c=
over stating :-</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity</p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0The<br> combined capacity of the Gearbox and overdrive is</p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A05 1/2 Imp.<br> pints (dry) and n=
ot 4 1/2 Imp pints as stated=C2=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0After<br> draining,=C2=A0=C2=A01/4 pint of oil will remain in the=
 overdrive</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 hydraulic<br> syste=
m, therefore ,only 5 1/2 pints will be required</p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for<br> refilling.=C2=A0</p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> Pubs. 996=
B and 997A December 1954</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So when filling from=C2=A0rebuild add the<br=
> extra 1/4 pint=C2=A0 ....=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 3/4 pints</p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Later editions=
=C2=A0may have carried the<br> correction=C2=A0 and=C2=A0side and top shift=
=C2=A0gearboxes may vary</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Keith Taylor</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">southern Highlands OZ</p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick &amp;<b=
r> Caroline Quinn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br> wrote:</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Greetings</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Well that=E2=80=99s=
<br> interesting as I will be buying the oil for the<br> BN3=E2=80=99s gear=
box this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a<br> 22% OD that has been complet=
ely rebuilt and apart<br> from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=99s co=
mpletely<br> empty.</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My 1968 BMC<br> Workshop Manual (A=
KD 1179H) that I bought new in<br> September 1974 for $7.00 states that the=
 oil<br> capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD<br> is 6 =C2=
=BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I<br> states the same for a ce=
ntre-shift box as well. So I<br> will be buying a 4 litre container and sto=
re what=E2=80=99s<br> left over for the inevitable leaks.</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN=
-AU">Talking about<br> leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler=
<br> SP250 over the weekend and he made mention that all<br> things over 50=
 or 60 years of age are bound to leak.</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Hoo Roo</span><=
span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=
=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-AU">Patrick Quinn</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Blue Mountains</span><span lang=3D"EN-A=
U"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Australia</span><=
span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=
=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [m=
ailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">h=
[email-masked]</a>]<br> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br><=
b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM<br><b>To:</b><a href=3D"mailto:hea=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></spa=
n></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=
=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Offhand, I&#39;d<=
br> believe the workshop manual first.=C2=A0 If you&#39;re<br> doing a drai=
n-and-fill, you don&#39;t know for sure<br> how much residual oil is left s=
o you have to go<br> by the dipstick anyway.<br></span></p><div><br></div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU"><br> Bob</span></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">On<br> 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan=
 wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN=
-AU">Hi,</span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">1)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<br> </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My car=E2=80=
=99s Driver=E2=80=99s<br> Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:</span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">my MkII<br> BT7=E2=80=99s =
gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)<br> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">its<br> overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span></p><p>=
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">2)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0<br> </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My BMC Workshop Manual<br> (AKD 1179=
D) tells me that:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">gea=
rbox=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<br> 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Total<br> gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts =
(6.30<br> US pts)</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=
=A0</span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">3)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<br> </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My Haynes manual g=
oes<br> for:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Standard=
<br> box:- 5 imp pts</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=
With<br> overdrive:- 6.25 pts=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">4)</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<br> </span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">M=
y Autopress manual<br> (Kenneth Ball) goes for:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Standard<br> box:- 5 imp pts</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">With<br> overdrive:- 6.25 pts</span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">ie only<br> Haynes and Autopress agree.</spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">I=E2=80=99ve had<br> this=
 Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never<br> noticed these discrepan=
cies! I seem to have<br> survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=80=99d b=
et<br> that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.</span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-AU">Any ideas?<br> I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up befor=
e.....</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Thanks,</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">(And I<br> didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)</span=
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From: "Earl Kagna" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 21:09:22 -0700

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Roger:

Redline MT 90 is the way to go =E2=80=93 a slightly heavier version of =
MTL, which oddly enough stands for Manual Transaxle Lubricant.  It is =
formulated with friction enhancers for that use, which is why it works =
so well in the overdrive =E2=80=93 the cone clutch likes the stuff, as =
do the synchro rings in the gearbox.  Just my opinion, there are those =
who would disagree.=20

I doubt that the leak pattern will be any different.  Oil leaks in =
Healeys are reassuring =E2=80=93 if there is no oil leaking from a =
British car, it=E2=80=99s probably empty!

Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb

From: Roggrace=20
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 6:15 PM
To: Michael Oritt=20
Cc: Austin Healey=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume

I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first time since taking =
ownership; just to be sure that I know what is in there;=20
and I don't want to start another gearbox oil discussion. .....
However so many people recommend MTL or MT90 that are both synthetic.
I am a little reluctant to as don't need any new oil leaks with =
synthetic; maybe already have synthetic ,,,.?
Anyhow for convenience was planning to use same as use in engine - =
Valvoline VR1 20-50
Any thoughts regarding synthetic oil and gearbox leaks from more =
experienced users appreciated.
rg

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<DIV>Roger:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Redline MT 90 is the way to go =E2=80=93 a slightly heavier version =
of MTL, which=20
oddly enough stands for Manual Transaxle Lubricant.&nbsp; It is =
formulated with=20
friction enhancers for that use, which is why it works so well in the =
overdrive=20
=E2=80=93 the cone clutch likes the stuff, as do the synchro rings in =
the gearbox.&nbsp;=20
Just my opinion, there are those who would disagree. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I doubt that the leak pattern will be any different.&nbsp; Oil =
leaks in=20
Healeys are reassuring =E2=80=93 if there is no oil leaking from a =
British car, it=E2=80=99s=20
probably empty!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #141100; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Earl=20
Kagna<BR>Victoria, B.C.<BR>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Roggrace</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 25, 2015 6:15 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Michael Oritt</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Austin Healey</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
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<DIV>I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first time since taking =

ownership; just to be sure that I know what is in there; </DIV>
<DIV>and I don't want to start another gearbox oil discussion. =
.....</DIV>
<DIV>However so many people recommend MTL or MT90 that are both =
synthetic.</DIV>
<DIV>I am a little reluctant to as don't need any new oil leaks with =
synthetic;=20
maybe already have synthetic ,,,.?</DIV>
<DIV>Anyhow for convenience was planning to use same as use in engine -=20
Valvoline VR1 20-50</DIV>
<DIV>Any thoughts regarding synthetic oil and gearbox leaks from more=20
experienced users appreciated.</DIV>
<DIV>rg</DIV>
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On the original volume question, I'm not comfortable with filling 'til 
it overflows.'  I think you need some head space to allow for expansion 
of the oil as it heats up.

Thoughts?

Bob

On 5/25/2015 9:09 PM, Earl Kagna wrote:
> Roger:
> Redline MT 90 is the way to go – a slightly heavier version of MTL, 
> which oddly enough stands for Manual Transaxle Lubricant.  It is 
> formulated with friction enhancers for that use, which is why it works 
> so well in the overdrive – the cone clutch likes the stuff, as do the 
> synchro rings in the gearbox.  Just my opinion, there are those who 
> would disagree.
> I doubt that the leak pattern will be any different.  Oil leaks in 
> Healeys are reassuring – if there is no oil leaking from a British 
> car, it’s probably empty!
> Earl Kagna
> Victoria, B.C.
> BJ8, BT7 tri-carb
> *Sent:* Monday, May 25, 2015 6:15 PM
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    On the original volume question, I'm not comfortable with filling
    'til it overflows.'  I think you need some head space to allow for
    expansion of the oil as it heats up.<br>
    <br>
    Thoughts?<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/25/2015 9:09 PM, Earl Kagna wrote:<br>
    </div>
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          <div>Roger:</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>Redline MT 90 is the way to go – a slightly heavier
            version of MTL, which oddly enough stands for Manual
            Transaxle Lubricant.  It is formulated with friction
            enhancers for that use, which is why it works so well in the
            overdrive – the cone clutch likes the stuff, as do the
            synchro rings in the gearbox.  Just my opinion, there are
            those who would disagree. </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>I doubt that the leak pattern will be any different.  Oil
            leaks in Healeys are reassuring – if there is no oil leaking
            from a British car, it’s probably empty!</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #141100; FONT-SIZE:
            12pt">Earl Kagna<br>
            Victoria, B.C.<br>
            BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</div>
          <div style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY:
            'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT:
            normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
            <div style="FONT: 10pt tahoma">
              <div> </div>
              <div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
                <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" title="[email-masked]"
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]">Roggrace</a> </div>
                <div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 25, 2015 6:15 PM</div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="[email-masked]"
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]">Michael Oritt</a>
                </div>
                <div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="[email-masked]"
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]">Austin Healey</a>
                </div>
                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</div>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div> </div>
          </div>
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            normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
            <div>I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first time
              since taking ownership; just to be sure that I know what
              is in there; </div>
            <div>and I don't want to start another gearbox oil
              discussion. .....</div>
            <div>However so many people recommend MTL or MT90 that are
              both synthetic.</div>
            <div>I am a little reluctant to as don't need any new oil
              leaks with synthetic; maybe already have synthetic ,,,.?</div>
            <div>Anyhow for convenience was planning to use same as use
              in engine - Valvoline VR1 20-50</div>
            <div>Any thoughts regarding synthetic oil and gearbox leaks
              from more experienced users appreciated.</div>
            <div>rg</div>
            <div> </div>
          </div>
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Sensible choice. No drawbacks using 20W50 in the gearbox/OD. It is used 
as the factory standard oil in several British classic cars. Some oils 
may be specially formulated but it is doubtful if they perform better. 
They all cost more and are probably harder to get, although getting 
20W50 is not that easy either these days.
I have used it in my gearbox for more than 35 years.

Kees Oudesluijs

Roggrace schreef op 26-5-2015 om 3:15:
> I agree with Kees--you really cannot overfill the box and even if you 
> do the car will leak oil anyway so at worst you will have a larger 
> puddle of oil under the car.  Do be sure to use an oil with a GL4 
> rating or your yellow metal parts (synchro rings, etc) will not be 
> very happy.  I recommend RedLine MTL or MT90.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Oudesluys <[email-masked] 
>
>         That’s very interesting. Seems like
>         *From:*Healeys
>         [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Keith
>         Taylor
>         On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick &
>         wrote:
>
>         Greetings
>
>         Well that’s
>             My car’s Driver’s
>             I’ve had
>             that I’ve overfilled more than once.
>
>             Any ideas?
>             I don’t recall this coming up before.....
>
>             Thanks,
>
>             Simon
>
>             (And I
>         Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sensible choice. No drawbacks using
      20W50 in the gearbox/OD. It is used as the factory standard oil in
      several British classic cars. Some oils may be specially
      formulated but it is doubtful if they perform better. They all
      cost more and are probably harder to get, although getting 20W50
      is not that easy either these days.<br>
      I have used it in my gearbox for more than 35 years.<br>
      <br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Roggrace schreef op 26-5-2015 om 3:15:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:[email-masked]"
      type="cite">
      <meta http-equiv="Context-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
      <div>I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first time since
        taking ownership; just to be sure that I know what is in there;
      </div>
      <div>and I don't want to start another gearbox oil discussion.
        .....</div>
      <div>However so many people recommend MTL or MT90 that are both
        synthetic.</div>
      <div>I am a little reluctant to as don't need any new oil leaks
        with synthetic; maybe already have synthetic ,,,.?</div>
      <div>Anyhow for convenience was planning to use same as use in
        engine - Valvoline VR1 20-50</div>
      <div>Any thoughts regarding synthetic oil and gearbox leaks from
        more experienced users appreciated.</div>
      <div>rg</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>----- Original Message -----<br>
        From: Michael Oritt <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
        To: Oudesluys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
        Cc: Austin Healey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
        Sent: Mon, 25 May 2015 05:08:10 -0600 (MDT)<br>
        Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume<br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div class="gmail_default" data-mce-style="color: #3333ff;">I
          agree with Kees--you really cannot overfill the box and even
          if you do the car will leak oil anyway so at worst you will
          have a larger puddle of oil under the car.  Do be sure to use
          an oil with a GL4 rating or your yellow metal parts (synchro
          rings, etc) will not be very happy.  I recommend RedLine MTL
          or MT90.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" data-mce-style="color: #3333ff;"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" data-mce-style="color: #3333ff;">Best--Michael
          Oritt</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM,
          Oudesluys <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
              data-mce-href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0
            .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
            <div>
              <div>Never bother about the quantity, just<br>
                fill right up until the oil overflows the filler plug
                hole, both<br>
                overdrive and gearbox if they are separate. <br>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                When brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings, selector
                forks, OD<br>
                parts) do not use EP "gearbox oil". Use straight oil,
                special oil<br>
                e.g Redline or 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in
                the box.<br>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                Kees Oudesluijs<br>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <br>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                Simon Lachlan schreef op 25-5-2015 om 11:47:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>That’s very interesting.
                      Seems like<br>
                      they got the whole thing into a muddle on Day One
                      and never<br>
                      really recovered.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Makes trial and error, one
                      of my<br>
                      usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in the circs.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                        lang="EN-US"> Healeys<br>
                        [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                          target="_blank"
                          data-mce-href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keith<br>
                        Taylor<span class=""><br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2015 03:20<br>
                          <b>To:</b> healeys<br>
                        </span></span></p>
                    <div>
                      <div class="h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]
                        Gearbox oil volume</div>
                    </div>
                    <p><br>
                    </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">My original BN1 1954
                            Service Manual has<br>
                            an  "ERRATUM '  sticker on the inside cover
                            stating :-</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">                          
                                       <br>
                            Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">                          
                             The<br>
                            combined capacity of the Gearbox and
                            overdrive is</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">                          
                              5 1/2 Imp.<br>
                            pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pints as
                            stated </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">                          
                             After<br>
                            draining,  1/4 pint of oil will remain in
                            the overdrive</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">                         
                              hydraulic<br>
                            system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 pints will be
                            required</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">                            
                            for<br>
                            refilling. </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">                           </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">                                   
                             <br>
                            Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">So when filling
                            from rebuild add the<br>
                            extra 1/4 pint  ....   5 3/4 pints</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Later editions may have
                            carried the<br>
                            correction  and side and top shift gearboxes
                            may vary</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Keith Taylor</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">southern Highlands OZ</p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">On 25 May 2015 at 07:54,
                            Patrick &amp;<br>
                            Caroline Quinn &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                              target="_blank"
                              data-mce-href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                            wrote:</p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Greetings</span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Well
                                  that’s<br>
                                  interesting as I will be buying the
                                  oil for the<br>
                                  BN3’s gearbox this week. It is a 100S
                                  gearbox with a<br>
                                  22% OD that has been completely
                                  rebuilt and apart<br>
                                  from the oil used in the assembly it’s
                                  completely<br>
                                  empty.</span><span lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">My
                                  1968 BMC<br>
                                  Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I
                                  bought new in<br>
                                  September 1974 for $7.00 states that
                                  the oil<br>
                                  capacity for a side-shift gearbox
                                  fitted with an OD<br>
                                  is 6 ¼ imp pints, 7.5 US pints and
                                  3.55 litres. I<br>
                                  states the same for a centre-shift box
                                  as well. So I<br>
                                  will be buying a 4 litre container and
                                  store what’s<br>
                                  left over for the inevitable leaks.</span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Talking
                                  about<br>
                                  leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video
                                  of his Daimler<br>
                                  SP250 over the weekend and he made
                                  mention that all<br>
                                  things over 50 or 60 years of age are
                                  bound to leak.</span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Hoo
                                  Roo</span><span lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Patrick
                                  Quinn</span><span lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Blue
                                  Mountains</span><span lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Australia</span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                  lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                        lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                                      lang="EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        data-mce-href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>]<br>
                                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br>
                                      <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015
                                      12:14 AM<br>
                                      <b>To:</b><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        data-mce-href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
                                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]
                                      Gearbox oil volume</span><span
                                      lang="EN-AU"></span></p>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      lang="EN-AU">Offhand, I'd<br>
                                      believe the workshop manual
                                      first.  If you're<br>
                                      doing a drain-and-fill, you don't
                                      know for sure<br>
                                      how much residual oil is left so
                                      you have to go<br>
                                      by the dipstick anyway.<br>
                                    </span></p>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      lang="EN-AU"><br>
                                      Bob</span></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">On<br>
                                        5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan
                                        wrote:</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <blockquote>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">Hi,</span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">1)</span><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">     <br>
                                      </span><span lang="EN-AU">My car’s
                                        Driver’s<br>
                                        Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A)
                                        tells me that:</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">my MkII<br>
                                        BT7’s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts
                                        (6.90 US pts)<br>
                                      </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">its<br>
                                        overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts
                                        (1.75 US pts)</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">2)</span><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">     <br>
                                      </span><span lang="EN-AU">My BMC
                                        Workshop Manual<br>
                                        (AKD 1179D) tells me that:</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">gearbox              <br>
                                        4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">Total<br>
                                        gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25
                                        imp pts (6.30<br>
                                        US pts)</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">3)</span><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">     <br>
                                      </span><span lang="EN-AU">My
                                        Haynes manual goes<br>
                                        for:</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">Standard<br>
                                        box:- 5 imp pts</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">With<br>
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                                        pts              </span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">4)</span><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">     <br>
                                      </span><span lang="EN-AU">My
                                        Autopress manual<br>
                                        (Kenneth Ball) goes for:</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">Standard<br>
                                        box:- 5 imp pts</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">With<br>
                                        overdrive:- 6.25 pts</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">ie only<br>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-AU">I’ve had<br>
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                                        I’ve never<br>
                                        noticed these discrepancies! I
                                        seem to have<br>
                                        survived by using the dip stick,
                                        but I’d bet<br>
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                                        once.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Nonsense. Expansion is no issue, you would not even notice it if you 
could measure the level on a dipstick. Anyway, the variety in the 
castings will give you more differences in volume than expansion. 
Filling to the level of the filler plug hole is recommended by 
practically every motor manufacturer of the day. This way it is certain 
that it is properly filled.
There is plenty of space filled with air above the filler plug hole if 
you are worried about expansion. Most of the time the filler plug hole 
is about halfway up the casting.

Kees Oudesluijs

Bob Spidell schreef op 26-5-2015 om 7:21:
> it overflows.'  I think you need some head space to allow for 
> expansion of the oil as it heats up.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Bob
>
>> formulated with friction enhancers for that use, which is why it 
>> works so well in the overdrive – the cone clutch likes the stuff, as 
>> do the synchro rings in the gearbox.  Just my opinion, there are 
>> those who would disagree.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Nonsense. Expansion is no issue, you
      would not even notice it if you could measure the level on a
      dipstick. Anyway, the variety in the castings will give you more
      differences in volume than expansion. Filling to the level of the
      filler plug hole is recommended by practically every motor
      manufacturer of the day. This way it is certain that it is
      properly filled.<br>
      There is plenty of space filled with air above the filler plug
      hole if you are worried about expansion. Most of the time the
      filler plug hole is about halfway up the casting.<br>
      <br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Bob Spidell schreef op 26-5-2015 om 7:21:<br>
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      On the original volume question, I'm not comfortable with filling
      'til it overflows.'  I think you need some head space to allow for
      expansion of the oil as it heats up.<br>
      <br>
      Thoughts?<br>
      <br>
      Bob<br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/25/2015 9:09 PM, Earl Kagna
        wrote:<br>
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            <div>Roger:</div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>Redline MT 90 is the way to go – a slightly heavier
              version of MTL, which oddly enough stands for Manual
              Transaxle Lubricant.  It is formulated with friction
              enhancers for that use, which is why it works so well in
              the overdrive – the cone clutch likes the stuff, as do the
              synchro rings in the gearbox.  Just my opinion, there are
              those who would disagree. </div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>I doubt that the leak pattern will be any different. 
              Oil leaks in Healeys are reassuring – if there is no oil
              leaking from a British car, it’s probably empty!</div>
            <div> </div>
            <div>Earl Kagna<br>
              Victoria, B.C.<br>
              BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</div>
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                  <div><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  <div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 25, 2015 6:15 PM</div>
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                  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</div>
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              <div>I am about to change my g/b and o/d oil for first
                time since taking ownership; just to be sure that I know
                what is in there; </div>
              <div>and I don't want to start another gearbox oil
                discussion. .....</div>
              <div>However so many people recommend MTL or MT90 that are
                both synthetic.</div>
              <div>I am a little reluctant to as don't need any new oil
                leaks with synthetic; maybe already have synthetic ,,,.?</div>
              <div>Anyhow for convenience was planning to use same as
                use in engine - Valvoline VR1 20-50</div>
              <div>Any thoughts regarding synthetic oil and gearbox
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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
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The fill "plug" on a big Austin-Healey gearbox is the dip stick hole, on 
the top side.  Just use the dip stick to check level.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
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From: Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 12:10:48 +0200

Kees
On a Healey the filler hole is located on the top of the casing. The 
hole is used for the combined filler plug/dipstick. So filling a Healey 
box till it overflows means that there is no air left in the box. That 
is clearly too much.

Per

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From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:05:24 +1000

G'day

Yes that's true for the BN2 through to BJ8 gearboxes, but not so for the BN1
which does not have a dipstick. The BN1 box has a screw-in plug on the
almost top right hand side and to test the level you have to revert to the
old finger in the hole trick.

I recall many years back after a particularly brisk cross country trip I
stopped to check the gearbox oil level. On unscrewing the plug the hot oil
flowed out under pressure clearly caused by expansion. Unlike the later cars
the BN1 gearbox is sealed.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

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The fill "plug" on a big Austin-Healey gearbox is the dip stick hole, on the
top side.  Just use the dip stick to check level.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar

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> practically every motor manufacturer of the day. This way it is 
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