Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil

From: David Porter <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 06:59:13 -0600

Red Line.... Dextron ATF.... hmmm, both red...?

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From: Richard Kahn <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 09:37:44 -0700

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Check the prices on Ebay. Sometimes they have good deals on Redline.=20
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about how much to put in. My dip stick ha=
s a high and low mark. I just fill to the high mark. Am I missing something=
?
Also I don't think the gear box will get hot enough to cause much expansion=
. Multi grade oils are most efficient when engines are heating up from cold=
 (needing the lower weight) to hot when lower weight oil will be to thin. M=
ost multi grades have detergent which will foam with agitation and keep deb=
ris in suspension as apposed to allowing it to drown out of harms way. This=
 debris is an abrasive which causes gear wear. This being from lecture note=
s taken 30 years ago and oils may have changed.
Rich Kahn
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue=2C 26 May 2015 13:16:47 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox oil

Thanks for all the advice.Seems like I=92ll go for somewhere a bit below th=
e filler plug=2C but otherwise the more the merrier.Curiously=2C my gearbox=
 doesn=92t drip. Maybe it=92s a Toyota and I just never noticed!Redline cos=
ts a fortune over here. Too much.Simon
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'><br>Check the prices on Ebay. So=
metimes they have good deals on Redline. <br>I'm not sure what all the fuss=
 is about how much to put in. My dip stick has a high and low mark. I just =
fill to the high mark. Am I missing something?<br>Also I don't think the ge=
ar box will get hot enough to cause much expansion. Multi grade oils are mo=
st efficient when engines are heating up from cold (needing the lower weigh=
t) to hot when lower weight oil will be to thin. Most multi grades have det=
ergent which will foam with agitation and keep debris in suspension as appo=
sed to allowing it to drown out of harms way. This debris is an abrasive wh=
ich causes gear wear. This being from lecture notes taken 30 years ago and =
oils may have changed.<br>Rich Kahn<br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: s=
[email-masked]<br>To: [email-masked]<br>Date: Tue=2C 2=
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From: TERRY COLL <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 15:10:28 -0400

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Healey blue BJ8? on VA Rt 175 headed west away from Chincoteague around 1:3=
0 pm today.  If it was anyone on this list=2C please contact me (I was in t=
he Blue Honda CRV that honked).
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aded west away from Chincoteague around 1:30 pm today.&nbsp=3B If it was an=
yone on this list=2C please contact me (I was in the Blue Honda CRV that ho=
nked).<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>Terry Coll&nbsp=3B '64 BJ8<br>&nbsp=3B<BR> 		 	   		 =
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From: I Erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 13:05:15 -0700

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It most likely does not drip because its empty :)
Yes to non-detergent oil in a transmission. Never heard of using
multi-weight in a tranny

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
   _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Richard Kahn <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>
> Check the prices on Ebay. Sometimes they have good deals on Redline.
> I'm not sure what all the fuss is about how much to put in. My dip stick
> has a high and low mark. I just fill to the high mark. Am I missing
> something?
> Also I don't think the gear box will get hot enough to cause much
> expansion. Multi grade oils are most efficient when engines are heating u=
p
> from cold (needing the lower weight) to hot when lower weight oil will be
> to thin. Most multi grades have detergent which will foam with agitation
> and keep debris in suspension as apposed to allowing it to drown out of
> harms way. This debris is an abrasive which causes gear wear. This being
> from lecture notes taken 30 years ago and oils may have changed.
> Rich Kahn
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 13:16:47 +0100
> Thanks for all the advice.
>
> Seems like I=E2=80=99ll go for somewhere a bit below the filler plug, but
> otherwise the more the merrier.
>
> Curiously, my gearbox doesn=E2=80=99t drip. Maybe it=E2=80=99s a Toyota a=
nd I just never
> noticed!
>
> Redline costs a fortune over here. Too much.
>
> Simon
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">It =
most likely does not drip because its empty :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small">Yes to non-detergent oil in a transmission.=
 Never heard of using multi-weight in a <span class=3D"" id=3D":79h.4" tabi=
ndex=3D"-1">tranny</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=
=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 _______=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Richard Kah=
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d deals on Redline. <br>I&#39;m not sure what all the fuss is about how muc=
h to put in. My dip stick has a high and low mark. I just fill to the high =
mark. Am I missing something?<br>Also I don&#39;t think the gear box will g=
et hot enough to cause much expansion. Multi grade oils are most efficient =
when engines are heating up from cold (needing the lower weight) to hot whe=
n lower weight oil will be to thin. Most multi grades have detergent which =
will foam with agitation and keep debris in suspension as apposed to allowi=
ng it to drown out of harms way. This debris is an abrasive which causes ge=
ar wear. This being from lecture notes taken 30 years ago and oils may have=
 changed.<br>Rich Kahn<br><div><hr>From: <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@ho=
mecall.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>To: <a =
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.net</a><br>Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 13:16:47 +0100<br>Subject: [Healeys] Gea=
rbox oil<br><br><div><p>Thanks for all the advice.</p><p>Seems like I=E2=80=
=99ll go for somewhere a bit below the filler plug, but otherwise the more =
the merrier.</p><p>Curiously, my gearbox doesn=E2=80=99t drip. Maybe it=E2=
=80=99s a Toyota and I just never noticed!</p><p>Redline costs a fortune ov=
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From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 14:43:18 -0700

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Ira:  In the Driver's Handbook for my BJ8, the table "KEY TO RECOMMENDED =
LUBRICANTS", column A, Engine and Gearbox, sub-column Tropical and =
temperate down to 5 degrees C, 41 degrees F, after all the single grade =
oils, the recommendations include Shell, Mobil, and ESSO 20W/40; and =
Filtrate and Duckham's 20/50.  In the extreme cold, down to 12 C, 10 F, =
there are 10W/30, 10W/40, 20W/30, 20/50, and 5050 (no slash ?).  Some of =
those were not available in the United Kingdom at the time of =
publication and some were available in the UK only.

(I wanted to scan the handbook page and include it in this e-mail but I =
couldn't find the instructions I have somewhere)

(The Other) Len
Fairfield, CA, USA
1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
> >  >  > 200, 683 miles >  >  >  >

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  To: Richard Kahn=20
  Cc: [email-masked]=20
  Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil

  It most likely does not drip because its empty :)
  Yes to non-detergent oil in a transmission. Never heard of using =
multi-weight in a tranny

  Ira Erbs
  Portland, OR
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<DIV>Ira:&nbsp; In the Driver's Handbook for my BJ8, the table "KEY TO=20
RECOMMENDED LUBRICANTS", column A, Engine and Gearbox, sub-column =
Tropical and=20
temperate down to 5 degrees C, 41 degrees F, after all the single grade =
oils,=20
the recommendations include Shell, Mobil, and ESSO 20W/40; and Filtrate =
and=20
Duckham's 20/50.&nbsp; In the extreme cold, down to 12 C, 10 F, there =
are=20
10W/30, 10W/40, 20W/30, 20/50, and 5050 (no slash ?).&nbsp; Some of =
those were=20
not available in the United Kingdom at the time of publication and some =
were=20
available in the UK only.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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but I=20
couldn't find the instructions I have somewhere)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(The Other) Len<BR>Fairfield, CA, USA<BR>1967 AH 3000 MkIII,=20
HBJ8L39031</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; 200, 683 miles &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;</DIV>
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From: I Erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 16:11:01 -0700

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We always out 30 wt non detergent for in the gearbox back in the day. Maybe
because it was in Los Angles
On May 26, 2015 2:43 PM, "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <
[email-masked]> wrote:

>
> Ira:  In the Driver's Handbook for my BJ8, the table "KEY TO RECOMMENDED
> LUBRICANTS", column A, Engine and Gearbox, sub-column Tropical and
> temperate down to 5 degrees C, 41 degrees F, after all the single grade
> oils, the recommendations include Shell, Mobil, and ESSO 20W/40; and
> Filtrate and Duckham's 20/50.  In the extreme cold, down to 12 C, 10 F,
> there are 10W/30, 10W/40, 20W/30, 20/50, and 5050 (no slash ?).  Some of
> those were not available in the United Kingdom at the time of publication
> and some were available in the UK only.
>
> (I wanted to scan the handbook page and include it in this e-mail but I
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* I Erbs <[email-masked]>
> *To:* Richard Kahn <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil
>
>

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<p dir=3D"ltr">We always out 30 wt non detergent for in the gearbox back in=
 the day. Maybe because it was in Los Angles</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 26, 2015 2:43 PM, &quot;Len and/or Marge =
Hartnett&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">thehartnet=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><u></u>

<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Ira:=C2=A0 In the Driver&#39;s Handbook for my BJ8, the table &quot;KE=
Y TO=20
RECOMMENDED LUBRICANTS&quot;, column A, Engine and Gearbox, sub-column Trop=
ical and=20
temperate down to 5 degrees C, 41 degrees F, after all the single grade oil=
s,=20
the recommendations include Shell, Mobil, and ESSO 20W/40; and Filtrate and=
=20
Duckham&#39;s 20/50.=C2=A0 In the extreme cold, down to 12 C, 10 F, there a=
re=20
10W/30, 10W/40, 20W/30, 20/50, and 5050 (no slash ?).=C2=A0 Some of those w=
ere=20
not available in the United Kingdom at the time of publication and some wer=
e=20
available in the UK only.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>(I wanted to scan the handbook page and include it in this e-mail but =
I=20
couldn&#39;t find the instructions I have somewhere)</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>(The Other) Len<br>Fairfield, CA, USA<br>1967 AH 3000 MkIII,=20
HBJ8L39031</div>
<div>&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 &gt; 200, 683 miles &gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0=
=20
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"tahoehealey@hotmail=
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net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox=
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  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:05 PM=
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  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil<=
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 20:14:36 -0400

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I am pretty sure that Redline MT 90, and similar transmission oils
correspond in viscosity to that of SAE 30.  When our cars were made there
were not, to my knowledge, oils intended to be used specifically for manual
transmissions and in any case we wound up with the specification that 30
weight engine oil be used in gearboxes.  )Maybe that is the best product
that had been developed and maybe it was simply considered to be convenient
to have the same product in both engine and gearbox, or both/)

I don't know when detergent oils were first developed but I don't recall
that they were commonly talked about or recommended "back in the day".  And
whether because detergent oils tend to keep stuff in suspension or because
they contain less oil by volume than non-detergent oils, or both, they are
usually not recommended for transmissions,.

In any case oils have changed drastically from the early days of motor cars
and I think that the best oils for us to now use in our transmissions,
whether OD nor, are those specifically intended for them such as MTL, MT 90
and like products.  I know from experience that MT90 gives me better/faster
shifting.

End of rant--Michael Oritt

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:11 PM, I Erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:

> We always out 30 wt non detergent for in the gearbox back in the day.
> Maybe because it was in Los Angles
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)=
">I am pretty sure that Redline MT 90, and similar transmission oils corres=
pond in viscosity to that of SAE 30.=C2=A0 When our cars were made there we=
re not, to my knowledge, oils intended to be used specifically for manual t=
ransmissions and in any case we wound up with the specification that 30 wei=
ght engine oil be used in gearboxes. =C2=A0)Maybe that is the best product =
that had been developed and maybe it was simply considered to be convenient=
 to have the same product in both engine and gearbox, or both/)</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I don&#39;t know when det=
ergent oils were first developed but I don&#39;t recall that they were comm=
only talked about or recommended &quot;back in the day&quot;.=C2=A0 And whe=
ther because detergent oils tend to keep stuff in suspension or because the=
y contain less oil by volume than non-detergent oils, or both, they are usu=
ally not recommended for transmissions,.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">In any case oils have changed drastically from th=
e early days of motor cars and I think that the best oils for us to now use=
 in our transmissions, whether OD nor, are those specifically intended for =
them such as MTL, MT 90 and like products.=C2=A0 I know from experience tha=
t MT90 gives me better/faster shifting.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">End of rant--Michael Oritt=C2=A0</div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 26, 2015 a=
t 7:11 PM, I Erbs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">We always out 30 wt non detergent for in th=
e gearbox back in the day. Maybe because it was in Los Angles</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On May 26, 2015 2:43 PM, =
&quot;Len and/or Marge Hartnett&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thehartnetts@ea=
rthlink.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
 type=3D"attribution"></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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