Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

From: Michael <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:15:57 -0400

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Hi Tom, can't help with #1 but on your #2 question my experience has been t=
hat it is  is very difficult to remove the  lever from the steering box wit=
h the box installed.
With the tool that I use (pic attached) the lever can be removed IF the for=
ward suspension arm is removed first however that can be as much work as re=
moving the steering box and then you have to replace the seal, which usuall=
y involves removing the rocker shaft from the box.
Bottom line for me is spend the time removing the box which will allow you =
to do the seal replacement properly.

Michael S
BN1 #174

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Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right front =
suspension area when making a slow full right turn.

I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is=
 not moving.

I noted this same condition on my E-Type also. =20

I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs. =20

It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.

Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and fou=
nd that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit flus=
h with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.  Their so=
lution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem.

Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you de=
termine was the issue and how did you solve it?

Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) =
and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these 2=
 items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut=
 and steering lever?

Thanks for any help.

tom
65 BJ8
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font-size: 11pt;">Hi Tom, can't help with #1 but on your #2 question my exp=
erience has been that it is&nbsp; is very difficult to remove the&nbsp; lev=
er from the steering box with the box installed.<br>With the tool that I us=
e (pic attached) the lever can be removed IF the forward suspension arm is =
removed first however that can be as much work as removing the steering box=
 and then you have to replace the seal, which usually involves removing the=
 rocker shaft from the box.<br>Bottom line for me is spend the time removin=
g the box which will allow you to do the seal replacement properly.<br><br>=
Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-f=
amily: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </spa=
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nt-size: 11pt;">[Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8</span>=
<br><br></div>I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from th=
e right front suspension area when making a slow full right turn.<br><br>I =
do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is n=
ot moving.<br><br>I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.&nbsp; <br>=
<br>I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.&nbsp; <br><b=
r>It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.<br><br>Several=
 listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and found that=
 the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit flush with =
the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.&nbsp; Their solu=
tion was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem.<br=
><br>Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did y=
ou determine was the issue and how did you solve it?<br><br>Question #2----=
--The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) and the dust ex=
cluder has disintegrated.&nbsp; Is it possible to replace these 2 items whi=
le the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut and steer=
ing lever?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>tom<br>65 BJ8<br>____________=
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From: Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:39:07 +0200

Hi
On the other hand, when you have done all this you will find that it 
didn't help, it will still leak. It's because of that oil seal that 
doesn't prevent oil leaks. Magnus Karlsson helped me to put a proper oil 
seal in the box, and that helps. It involves using the lathe and enlarge 
the oil seal seat, so a modern seal will fit.
And while you're in there you should also replace the bush.

Best, Per

Michael skrev den 2015-06-14 23:15:

> Bottom line for me is spend the time removing the box which will allow
> you to do the seal replacement properly.
>

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From: Michael <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:08:47 -0400

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Interesting...
I have always found that the problem was attributable to corrosion on the r=
ocker shaft where the seal seats.
I solve this by using 2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of the =
original.
I'm a little confused as to how you get a steering box in a lathe???
Michael S
BN1 #174

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

Hi
On the other hand, when you have done all this you will find that it=20
didn't help, it will still leak. It's because of that oil seal that=20
doesn't prevent oil leaks. Magnus Karlsson helped me to put a proper oil=20
seal in the box, and that helps. It involves using the lathe and enlarge=20
the oil seal seat, so a modern seal will fit.
And while you're in there you should also replace the bush.

Best, Per

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font-size: 11pt;">Interesting...<br>I have always found that the problem wa=
s attributable to corrosion on the rocker shaft where the seal seats.<br>I =
solve this by using 2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of the or=
iginal.<br>I'm a little confused as to how you get a steering box in a lath=
e???<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=
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if; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--=
BJ8</span><br><br></div>Hi<br>On the other hand, when you have done all thi=
s you will find that it <br>didn't help, it will still leak. It's because o=
f that oil seal that <br>doesn't prevent oil leaks. Magnus Karlsson helped =
me to put a proper oil <br>seal in the box, and that helps. It involves usi=
ng the lathe and enlarge <br>the oil seal seat, so a modern seal will fit.<=
br>And while you're in there you should also replace the bush.<br><br>Best,=
 Per<br><br>Michael skrev den 2015-06-14 23:15:<br><br>&gt; Bottom line for=
 me is spend the time removing the box which will allow<br>&gt; you to do t=
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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:35:55 -0400

Lathe - you could sweat the column off the box. :)

I'm thinking a vertical mill with an adjustable boring tool.  I've not 
looked at a steering rocker shaft lately.  Assume it can be turned 
between centers, if the one on the threaded end hasn't been distorted by 
the steering arm removal.

Per/Magnus, can you provide the details of the new seal and the machining?

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php

On 06/14/2015 06:08 PM, Michael wrote:
> Interesting...
> I have always found that the problem was attributable to corrosion on
> the rocker shaft where the seal seats.
> I solve this by using 2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of
> the original.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Maybe he should just buy some more oil....

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Michael <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Interesting...
> I have always found that the problem was attributable to corrosion on the
> rocker shaft where the seal seats.
> I solve this by using 2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of th=
e
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> From: Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Maybe=
 he should just buy some more oil....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:=
#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Michael <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div><div><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:=
11pt">Interesting...<br>I have always found that the problem was attributab=
le to corrosion on the rocker shaft where the seal seats.<br>I solve this b=
y using 2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of the original.<br>I=
&#39;m a little confused as to how you get a steering box in a lathe???<br>=
Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">From: </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Per Schoerner</a></span><br><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">Sent: =
</span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=E2=80=
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a></span><br=
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old">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:11pt">Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8</span><br>=
<br></div><div><div class=3D"h5">Hi<br>On the other hand, when you have don=
e all this you will find that it <br>didn&#39;t help, it will still leak. I=
t&#39;s because of that oil seal that <br>doesn&#39;t prevent oil leaks. Ma=
gnus Karlsson helped me to put a proper oil <br>seal in the box, and that h=
elps. It involves using the lathe and enlarge <br>the oil seal seat, so a m=
odern seal will fit.<br>And while you&#39;re in there you should also repla=
ce the bush.<br><br>Best, Per<br><br>Michael skrev den 2015-06-14 23:15:<br=
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From: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
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I will answer your question #2. You can replace the dust excluder by removi=
ng the steering lever and it may be possible to replace the oil seal with t=
he box in the car=2C I have never done it that way=2C likely a little more =
difficult. However=2C I would lave it in and instead I would drain the oil =
and replace it with John Deere Corn Head Grease=2C it is a light grease and=
 that will take care of your leak. I did this on the suggestion of Bob Yule=
 at Autofarm about two years ago=2C best thing I did to stop the leak.

Jean =20

> Date: Sun=2C 14 Jun 2015 16:53:06 -0400
> From: [email-masked]
>=20
> I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right fron=
t suspension area when making a slow full right turn.
>=20
> I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and =
is not moving.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and f=
ound that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit fl=
ush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.  Their =
solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem=
.
>=20
> Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you =
determine was the issue and how did you solve it?
>=20
> Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal=
) and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these=
 2 items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower n=
ut and steering lever?
>=20
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ref: '... it may be possible to replace the oil seal with the box in the 
car...'

I've done it.  Get some small diameter steel rod--1/4" should do it--cut 
into four pieces and grind the ends flat back about an inch or more 
(like a long, flat screwdriver tip).  On two of them, bend the very tips 
into a 'hook;' you'll use these to extract the old seal.  Work these in 
and pull the old seal out, then tap the new seal(s) in with the straight 
rods.

Can be done.

Bob

On 6/14/2015 4:13 PM, Jean Caron wrote:
> I will answer your question #2. You can replace the dust excluder by 
> removing the steering lever and it may be possible to replace the oil 
> seal with the box in the car, I have never done it that way, likely a 
> little more difficult. However, I would lave it in and instead I would 
> drain the oil and replace it with John Deere Corn Head Grease, it is a 
> light grease and that will take care of your leak. I did this on the 
> suggestion of Bob Yule at Autofarm about two years ago, best thing I 
> did to stop the leak.
>
> Jean
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    ref: '... it may be possible to replace the oil seal with the box in
    the car...'<br>
    <br>
    I've done it.  Get some small diameter steel rod--1/4" should do
    it--cut into four pieces and grind the ends flat back about an inch
    or more (like a long, flat screwdriver tip).  On two of them, bend
    the very tips into a 'hook;' you'll use these to extract the old
    seal.  Work these in and pull the old seal out, then tap the new
    seal(s) in with the straight rods.<br>
    <br>
    Can be done.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
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          the dust excluder by removing the steering lever and it may be
          possible to replace the oil seal with the box in the car, I
          have never done it that way, likely a little more difficult.
          However, I would lave it in and instead I would drain the oil
          and replace it with John Deere Corn Head Grease, it is a light
          grease and that will take care of your leak. I did this on the
          suggestion of Bob Yule at Autofarm about two years ago, best
          thing I did to stop the leak.<br>
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On 14/06/2015 6:03 PM, E.A. Driver wrote:
> To add to Jean's suggestion, I have actually replaced the dust 
> extruder and oil seal  by first removing the steering arm,
> then using a small screw driver with its' blade bent as a hook to 
> remove them. Then carefully pushing their replacements into place
> with a small punch of which the end was ground flat.   I added Penrite 
> steering box oil; and also on Jean's suggestion
> obtained from him some John Deere corn head grease.
>
> Ed
>
> On 14/06/2015 5:13 PM, Jean Caron wrote:
>> little more difficult. However, I would lave it in and instead I 
>> would drain the oil and replace it with John Deere Corn Head Grease, 
>> it is a light grease and that will take care of your leak. I did this 
>> on the suggestion of Bob Yule at Autofarm about two years ago, best 
>> thing I did to stop the leak.
>>
>> Jean
>>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/06/2015 6:03 PM, E.A. Driver
      wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">To add to Jean's suggestion, I have
        actually replaced the dust extruder and oil seal  by first
        removing the steering arm,<br>
        then using a small screw driver with its' blade bent as a hook
        to remove them. Then carefully pushing their replacements into
        place<br>
        with a small punch of which the end was ground flat.   I added
        Penrite steering box oil; and also on Jean's suggestion<br>
        obtained from him some John Deere corn head grease.<br>
        <br>
        Ed <br>
        <br>
        On 14/06/2015 5:13 PM, Jean Caron wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">I will answer your question #2. You can replace
            the dust excluder by removing the steering lever and it may
            be possible to replace the oil seal with the box in the car,
            I have never done it that way, likely a little more
            difficult. However, I would lave it in and instead I would
            drain the oil and replace it with John Deere Corn Head
            Grease, it is a light grease and that will take care of your
            leak. I did this on the suggestion of Bob Yule at Autofarm
            about two years ago, best thing I did to stop the leak.<br>
            <br>
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From: "Earl Kagna" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:15:51 -0700

Tom:

I agree with all of the responses on the leaking steering box.  ie: if you 
decide to replace parts, do it right - remove the column and do it on the 
bench.

Here is worked for me - several years ago for my tri-carb:  Drain the box in 
place - loosen the bolts for the bottom plate enough to allow whatever is in 
there to drain.  Allow lots of time for as complete a drain as possible.  I 
left mine for 2 -3 days.  Tighten the bolts and get some light grease - one 
lister recommended some John Deere stuff, I used Penrite steering box lube. 
It's specifically designed for old car steering boxes.  It's pretty thick, 
so I heated it in order to get it to flow so I could get it into the box. 
It's been probably close to 10 years, and the box hasn't leaked yet, and the 
steering works just fine.

I'm so impressed with that stuff, that it went into the BJ8's steering box 
and idler upon assembly at the restoration a couple of years ago.  I would 
try this before you start tearing things apart.

Sorry, I can't help with the wheel / noise problem.  I know from personal 
experience that Dayton has had some problems the last couple years, but 
don't know of any problems like you have.  Apparently the MWS wheels are 
much better at this time - I'm told that they come out of the box nice and 
round.

Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Felts
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:53 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right front 
suspension area when making a slow full right turn.

I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is 
not moving.

I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.

I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.

Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and 
found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit 
flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.  Their 
solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem.

Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you 
determine was the issue and how did you solve it?

Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) 
and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these 2 
items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut 
and steering lever?

Thanks for any help.

tom
65 BJ8

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Hi Tom

I went to my tool chest which has a drawer set aside for home made 
tools, amongst these are a socket designed by
Michael Salter for removal of the brass drain plug on BJ8s as well as 
the tools I used for the removal and
replacement of the dust extruder and oil seal for the steering box of a 
BJ8.  I have attached two photos of
the items I used, the very small screw driver, the small punch and the 
third item used to push the two replacement
items into final position (a piece of mild steel partially curved to 
match the shaft of the steering shaft
(like Bob Spidell, Michael,  and Jean sometimes  necessity is the mother 
of ones ingenuity);-)
Cheers
Ed
Saskatoon
Historian, AHCUSA

On 14/06/2015 6:15 PM, E.A. Driver wrote:
>> Penrite steering box oil; and also on Jean's suggestion
>>> removing the steering lever and it may be possible to replace the 
>>> oil seal with the box in the car, I have never done it that way, 
>>> likely a little more difficult. However, I would lave it in and 
>>> instead I would drain the oil and replace it with John Deere Corn 
>>> Head Grease, it is a light grease and that will take care of your 
>>> leak. I did this on the suggestion of Bob Yule at Autofarm about two 
>>> years ago, best thing I did to stop the leak.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>
>

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Tom<br>
      <br>
      I went to my tool chest which has a drawer set aside for home made
      tools, amongst these are a socket designed by<br>
      Michael Salter for removal of the brass drain plug on BJ8s as well
      as the tools I used for the removal and<br>
      replacement of the dust extruder and oil seal for the steering box
      of a BJ8.  I have attached two photos of<br>
      the items I used, the very small screw driver, the small punch and
      the third item used to push the two replacement<br>
      items into final position (a piece of mild steel partially curved
      to match the shaft of the steering shaft<br>
      (like Bob Spidell, Michael,  and Jean sometimes  necessity is the
      mother of ones ingenuity)<span class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-) </span></span><br>
      Cheers<br>
      Ed<br>
      Saskatoon<br>
      Historian, AHCUSA<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 14/06/2015 6:15 PM, E.A. Driver wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/06/2015 6:03 PM, E.A. Driver
        wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">To add to Jean's suggestion, I have
          actually replaced the dust extruder and oil seal  by first
          removing the steering arm,<br>
          then using a small screw driver with its' blade bent as a hook
          to remove them. Then carefully pushing their replacements into
          place<br>
          with a small punch of which the end was ground flat.   I added
          Penrite steering box oil; and also on Jean's suggestion<br>
          obtained from him some John Deere corn head grease.<br>
          <br>
          Ed <br>
          <br>
          On 14/06/2015 5:13 PM, Jean Caron wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">I will answer your question #2. You can
              replace the dust excluder by removing the steering lever
              and it may be possible to replace the oil seal with the
              box in the car, I have never done it that way, likely a
              little more difficult. However, I would lave it in and
              instead I would drain the oil and replace it with John
              Deere Corn Head Grease, it is a light grease and that will
              take care of your leak. I did this on the suggestion of
              Bob Yule at Autofarm about two years ago, best thing I did
              to stop the leak.<br>
              <br>
              Jean  <br>
              <br>
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rg

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To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box -BJ8 - Follow up tools

Hi Tom

I went to my tool chest which has a drawer set aside for home made =
tools, amongst these are a socket designed by
Michael Salter for removal of the brass drain plug on BJ8s as well as =
the tools I used for the removal and
replacement of the dust extruder and oil seal for the steering box of a =
BJ8.  I have attached two photos of
the items I used, the very small screw driver, the small punch and the =
third item used to push the two replacement
items into final position (a piece of mild steel partially curved to =
match the shaft of the steering shaft
(like Bob Spidell, Michael,  and Jean sometimes  necessity is the mother =
of ones ingenuity) ;-)=20
Cheers
Ed
Saskatoon
Historian, AHCUSA

    To add to Jean's suggestion, I have actually replaced the dust =
extruder and oil seal  by first removing the steering arm,
    then using a small screw driver with its' blade bent as a hook to =
remove them. Then carefully pushing their replacements into place
    with a small punch of which the end was ground flat.   I added =
Penrite steering box oil; and also on Jean's suggestion
    obtained from him some John Deere corn head grease.

    Ed=20

      I will answer your question #2. You can replace the dust excluder =
by removing the steering lever and it may be possible to replace the oil =
seal with the box in the car, I have never done it that way, likely a =
little more difficult. However, I would lave it in and instead I would =
drain the oil and replace it with John Deere Corn Head Grease, it is a =
light grease and that will take care of your leak. I did this on the =
suggestion of Bob Yule at Autofarm about two years ago, best thing I did =
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      Jean =20

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I have just replaced the seal at the same time as I had to replace the
steering arm due to a 'shunt'. I did it with the box in the car. The
trickiest part was getting a 'puller' that could fit in the limited space
available. Once the arm is off, the rest is easy. I always use pen rite
steering box lube nowadays.

Derek

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:55 AM, Roger Grace <[email-masked]> wrote:

>   I would be interested to see a pix of your brass drain plug socket as
> well if possible ....
> rg
>
>  *From:* E.A. Driver <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:25 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Steering Box -BJ8 - Follow up tools
>
>  Hi Tom
>
> I went to my tool chest which has a drawer set aside for home made tools,
> amongst these are a socket designed by
> Michael Salter for removal of the brass drain plug on BJ8s as well as the
> tools I used for the removal and
> items into final position (a piece of mild steel partially curved to match
> the shaft of the steering shaft
> of ones ingenuity) ;-)
> To add to Jean's suggestion, I have actually replaced the dust extruder
> and oil seal  by first removing the steering arm,
> then using a small screw driver with its' blade bent as a hook to remove
> them. Then carefully pushing their replacements into place
> removing the steering lever and it may be possible to replace the oil seal
> with the box in the car, I have never done it that way, likely a little
> more difficult. However, I would lave it in and instead I would drain the
> oil and replace it with John Deere Corn Head Grease, it is a light grease
> and that will take care of your leak. I did this on the suggestion of Bob
> Yule at Autofarm about two years ago, best thing I did to stop the leak.
>
> Jean
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have just replaced the seal at the same time as I had to=
 replace the steering arm due to a &#39;shunt&#39;. I did it with the box i=
n the car. The trickiest part was getting a &#39;puller&#39; that could fit=
 in the limited space available. Once the arm is off, the rest is easy. I a=
lways use pen rite steering box lube nowadays.<div><br></div><div style>Der=
ek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:55 AM, Roger Grace <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</sp=
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<div>I would be interested to see a pix of your brass drain plug socket as =
well=20
if possible ....</div>
<div>rg</div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:25 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> </div>
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<div>Hi Tom<br><br>I went to my tool chest which has a=20
drawer set aside for home made tools, amongst these are a socket designed=
=20
by<br>Michael Salter for removal of the brass drain plug on BJ8s as well as=
 the=20
tools I used for the removal and<br>replacement of the dust extruder and oi=
l=20
seal for the steering box of a BJ8.=C2=A0 I have attached two photos of<br>=
the=20
items I used, the very small screw driver, the small punch and the third it=
em=20
used to push the two replacement<br>items into final position (a piece of m=
ild=20
steel partially curved to match the shaft of the steering shaft<br>(like Bo=
b=20
Spidell, Michael,=C2=A0 and Jean sometimes=C2=A0 necessity is the mother of=
 ones=20
ingenuity)<span><span> ;-)=20
</span></span><br>Cheers<br>Ed<br>Saskatoon<br>Historian, AHCUSA<br><br><br=
>On=20
14/06/2015 6:15 PM, E.A. Driver wrote:<br></div>
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  <div>On 14/06/2015 6:03 PM, E.A. Driver wrote:<br></div>
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    <div>To add to Jean&#39;s suggestion, I have actually=20
    replaced the dust extruder and oil seal=C2=A0 by first removing the ste=
ering=20
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ook to=20
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th a=20
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te=20
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m some=20
    John Deere corn head grease.<br><br>Ed <br><br>On 14/06/2015 5:13 PM, J=
ean=20
    Caron wrote:<br></div>
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      <div dir=3D"ltr">I will answer your question #2. You can replace the =
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lace=20
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=20
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ad I=20
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it is=20
      a light grease and that will take care of your leak. I did this on th=
e=20
      suggestion of Bob Yule at Autofarm about two years ago, best thing I =
did=20
      to stop the leak.<br><br>Jean=C2=A0=20
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               Garry, Autofarm has them in stock.  I will send you a =
couple when I return your shock=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..another story.  =
Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
[email-masked]
Sent: June-15-15 7:43 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

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Where can I get "2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of the =
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Gary Hodson

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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <[email-masked]>
To: Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>; healeys <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2015 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

Interesting...=20
I have always found that the problem was attributable to corrosion on =
the rocker shaft where the seal seats.=20
I solve this by using 2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of =
the original.=20
I'm a little confused as to how you get a steering box in a lathe???=20
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&lt;<a =
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<br>I solve this by using 2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness =
of the original. <br>I'm a little confused as to how you get a steering =
box in a lathe??? <br>Michael S <br>BN1 #174 =
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Hi Gary,
I'm presently at my summer home and don't have access to my interchange dat=
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I've made a note to send you the number when I'm down that way in 2 weeks.
Michael S
BN1 #174

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eam.net" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

Where can I get "2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of the origi=
nal"?
Gary Hodson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <[email-masked]>
To: Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>; healeys <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2015 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

Interesting...=20
I have always found that the problem was attributable to corrosion on the r=
ocker shaft where the seal seats.=20
I solve this by using 2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of the =
original.=20
I'm a little confused as to how you get a steering box in a lathe???=20
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:11:08 -0400

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With all due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease is=
 not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.
The reason is very simple.
The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the loaded =
faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.
That is why the designers went to all the trouble of installing a seal.
Michael S
BN1 #174

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tom Felts" <[email-masked]>
Sent: =E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

Thanks for any help.

tom
65 BJ8

[email-masked]

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=3Dutf-8"></head><body><div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; =
font-size: 11pt;">With all due respects to those recommending it for steeri=
ng boxes grease is not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision g=
earbox.<br>The reason is very simple.<br>The pressure on the gear teeth wil=
l displace the lubricant from the loaded faces so that lubricant must be a =
liquid to be replenished.<br>That is why the designers went to all the trou=
ble of installing a seal.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; fo=
nt-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-ser=
if; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Tom Felts<=
/a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11=
pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.=
</span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;=
 font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-se=
rif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; =
font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">[Healeys] Steering Box and Wire=
 Wheel Questions--BJ8</span><br><br></div>I have recently been hearing a "p=
op pop" noise coming from the right front suspension area when making a slo=
w full right turn.<br><br>I do not hear it when making a full turn when the=
 car is on concrete and is not moving.<br><br>I noted this same condition o=
n my E-Type also.&nbsp; <br><br>I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relat=
ively new hubs.&nbsp; <br><br>It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or =
worn splines.<br><br>Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the=
 same problem and found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and =
they did not fit flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a =
sharp turn.&nbsp; Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and t=
hat solved their problem.<br><br>Question---------have any of you had this =
problem and if so what did you determine was the issue and how did you solv=
e it?<br><br>Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume b=
ad oil seal) and the dust excluder has disintegrated.&nbsp; Is it possible =
to replace these 2 items while the steering box is still in the car by remo=
ving the lower nut and steering lever?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>t=
om<br>65 BJ8<br>_______________________________________________<br>Support =
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:13:03 -0400

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Michael <[email-masked]> wrote:

> With all due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease
> is not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.
> The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the loade=
d
> From: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
t
> I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and
> is not moving.
>
> flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.
> Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their
> problem.
>
)
> and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these=
 2
> items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nu=
t
> =E2=80=8BHaving read a little more about this "Corn head lube" I may have=
 to
rethink what I was taught in school about gearbox lubrication...
This is pretty convincing...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUEwk_sYP6A8
=E2=80=8B
=E2=80=8BMichael S
BN1 #174=E2=80=8B

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Michael <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif;font-size:11pt">With all due respects to those recommending it for s=
teering boxes grease is not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precis=
ion gearbox.<br>The reason is very simple.<br>The pressure on the gear teet=
h will displace the lubricant from the loaded faces so that lubricant must =
be a liquid to be replenished.<br>That is why the designers went to all the=
 trouble of installing a seal.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><hr><span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:=
11pt;font-weight:bold">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif;font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">Tom Felts</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-se=
rif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 =
5:00 p.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size=
:11pt;font-weight:bold">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-=
serif;font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a></span><br></span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">Subject: </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">[Healeys] Steerin=
g Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8</span><br><br></div><div><div>I have re=
cently been hearing a &quot;pop pop&quot; noise coming from the right front=
 suspension area when making a slow full right turn.<br><br>I do not hear i=
t when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is not moving.<br=
><br>I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.=C2=A0 <br><br>I have Da=
yton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.=C2=A0 <br><br>It is not t=
he spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.<br><br>Several listers on t=
he Jag list have said they had the same problem and found that the quality =
of the Dayton&#39;s had gone down and they did not fit flush with the hub--=
thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.=C2=A0 Their solution was =
to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem.<br><br>Ques=
tion---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you determ=
ine was the issue and how did you solve it?<br><br>Question #2------The BJ8=
 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) and the dust excluder ha=
s disintegrated.=C2=A0 Is it possible to replace these 2 items while the st=
eering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut and steering lever=
?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>tom<br>65 BJ8<br>_____________________=
__________________________<br>Support Team.Net <a href=3D"http://www.team.n=
et/donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Su=
ggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75<br>Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team=
.net/archive" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: =
<a href=3D"http://www.team.net/forums" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.ne=
t/forums</a><br><br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a><br><a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman=
/listinfo/healeys" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo=
/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/ma=
ilman/options/healeys/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">http://aut=
ox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]</a><br><br></di=
v></div></div></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">=E2=80=8BHaving read a li=
ttle more about this &quot;Corn head lube&quot; I may have to rethink what =
I was taught in school about gearbox lubrication...<br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l">This is pretty convincing...<br><a href=3D"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3DUEwk_sYP6A8" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://m.youtube.com/=
watch?v=3DUEwk_sYP6A8</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">=E2=80=8B</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">=E2=80=8BMichael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174=E2=80=8B</di=
v><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><i><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black">If you can&#39;t fix it=
 with a hammer, you&#39;ve got an electrical problem.</span></font></i><br>=
<br><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div>
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Here is a link to a spec sheet

http://www.cenex.com/~/media/cenex/files/lubricants/cornhead%20grease/corn%=
20head%20grease_pds-h9-02.ashx

Not being from an agricultural background I had no idea what people were
talking about when mentioning 'Corn Head Grease'. For others who may be
similarly in a state of ignorance it appears that a Corn Head is a large
piece of agricultural equipment that gets attached to an even larger
combine harvester. Various gears are very much in evidence and this grease
is what is recommended to lubricate them. It isn't made from the heads of
corn!

Seems to be a similar consistency to Penrite lube.

Derek

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Michael <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>> The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the
>> loaded faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.
>> I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right
>> front suspension area when making a slow full right turn.
>>
>> found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fi=
t
>> Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved thei=
r
>> Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil
>> seal) and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replac=
e
>> these 2 items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the
>> lower nut and steering lever?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> tom
>> 65 BJ8
>> =E2=80=8BHaving read a little more about this "Corn head lube" I may hav=
e to
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Here is a link to a spec sheet<div><br></div><div><a href=
=3D"http://www.cenex.com/~/media/cenex/files/lubricants/cornhead%20grease/c=
orn%20head%20grease_pds-h9-02.ashx">http://www.cenex.com/~/media/cenex/file=
s/lubricants/cornhead%20grease/corn%20head%20grease_pds-h9-02.ashx</a><br><=
/div><div><br></div><div style>Not being from an agricultural background I =
had no idea what people were talking about when mentioning &#39;Corn Head G=
rease&#39;. For others who may be similarly in a state of ignorance it appe=
ars that a Corn Head is a large piece of agricultural equipment that gets a=
ttached to an even larger combine harvester. Various gears are very much in=
 evidence and this grease is what is recommended to lubricate them. It isn&=
#39;t made from the heads of corn!=C2=A0</div><div style><br></div><div sty=
le>Seems to be a similar consistency to Penrite lube.</div><div style><br><=
/div><div style>Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Michael Salter <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">m=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comi=
c sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 =
at 8:11 AM, Michael <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">With all due respects to=
 those recommending it for steering boxes grease is not a satisfactory lubr=
icant for any type of precision gearbox.<br>The reason is very simple.<br>T=
he pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the loaded f=
aces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.<br>That is why t=
he designers went to all the trouble of installing a seal.<br>Michael S<br>=
BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span><span style=3D"font-family:C=
alibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">From: </span><span style=
=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:tomfel=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Tom Felts</a></span><br><span style=3D=
"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">Sent: </sp=
an><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=E2=80=8E1=
4/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family:=
Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">To: </span><span style=
=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a></span><br></=
span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weig=
ht:bold">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font=
-size:11pt">[Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8</span><br>=
<br></div><div><div>I have recently been hearing a &quot;pop pop&quot; nois=
e coming from the right front suspension area when making a slow full right=
 turn.<br><br>I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on c=
oncrete and is not moving.<br><br>I noted this same condition on my E-Type =
also.=C2=A0 <br><br>I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hu=
bs.=C2=A0 <br><br>It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines=
.<br><br>Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same proble=
m and found that the quality of the Dayton&#39;s had gone down and they did=
 not fit flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp tu=
rn.=C2=A0 Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solv=
ed their problem.<br><br>Question---------have any of you had this problem =
and if so what did you determine was the issue and how did you solve it?<br=
><br>Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil s=
eal) and the dust excluder has disintegrated.=C2=A0 Is it possible to repla=
ce these 2 items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the=
 lower nut and steering lever?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>tom<br>65=
 BJ8<br>_______________________________________________<br>Support Team.Net=
 <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.t=
eam.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75<br>Archiv=
e: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tea=
m.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/forums" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br><br><a href=3D"mailto:Healeys=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><a href=3D=
"http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys" target=3D"_blank">http://a=
utox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a hr=
ef=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsa=
[email-masked]</a><br><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;=
font-size:small">=E2=80=8BHaving read a little more about this &quot;Corn h=
ead lube&quot; I may have to rethink what I was taught in school about gear=
box lubrication...<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">This is pretty convincing...<b=
r><a href=3D"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUEwk_sYP6A8" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUEwk_sYP6A8</a><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-seri=
f;font-size:small">=E2=80=8B</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">=E2=80=8BMichael S<br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-se=
rif;font-size:small">BN1 #174=E2=80=8B</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font co=
lor=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><i><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black">If you ca=
n&#39;t fix it with a hammer, you&#39;ve got an electrical problem.</span><=
/font></i><br><br><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div>
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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:52:24 -0400

Gary,

The SKF part number is 9815.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar

On 06/15/2015 07:43 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
> Where can I get "2 CR seals each of which is 1/2 the thickness of the
> original"?
> Gary Hodson

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               Mike, while I would whole heartedly agree that grease is =
not a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any gearbox for that matter, =
the John Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is refered to is quite =
different and specifically designed for gearboxes.  It is formulated for =
gear teeth under much higher loads than our steering boxes will ever =
encounter, and covers the teeth with a visible oily coating.  We have =
been using it for several years with very good results and no steering =
box failures=E2=80=A6.. or leaking.

Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Yule Autofarm Ltd.

=20

Michael
Sent: June-15-15 8:11 AM

=20

With all due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease =
is not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.
The reason is very simple.
The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the =
loaded faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.
That is why the designers went to all the trouble of installing a seal.
Michael S
BN1 #174

  _____ =20

I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right =
front suspension area when making a slow full right turn.

Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and =
found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not =
fit flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp =
turn.  Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that =
solved their problem.

Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil =
seal) and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to =
replace these 2 items while the steering box is still in the car by =
removing the lower nut and steering lever?

Thanks for any help.

tom
65 BJ8

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=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mike, while I would whole heartedly agree that grease is =
not a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any gearbox for that matter, =
the John Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is refered to is quite =
different and specifically designed for gearboxes.=C2=A0 It is =
formulated for gear teeth under much higher loads than our steering =
boxes will ever encounter, and covers the teeth with a visible oily =
coating.=C2=A0 We have been using it for several years with very good =
results and no steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or =
leaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Yule Autofarm Ltd.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael<br><b>Sent:</b> June-15-15 8:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and =
Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>With all =
due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease is not a =
satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.<br>The reason =
is very simple.<br>The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the =
lubricant from the loaded faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be =
replenished.<br>That is why the designers went to all the trouble of =
installing a seal.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 =
#174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D3 width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Tom Felts</a></span><br><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sent: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>=E2=80=8E14=
/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.</span><br><b><span =
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</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></span><=
br><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Subject: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>[Healeys] =
Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I have recently been =
hearing a &quot;pop pop&quot; noise coming from the right front =
suspension area when making a slow full right turn.<br><br>I do not hear =
it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is not =
moving.<br><br>I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.&nbsp; =
<br><br>I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.&nbsp; =
<br><br>It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn =
splines.<br><br>Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the =
same problem and found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down =
and they did not fit flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while =
making a sharp turn.&nbsp; Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop =
wires and that solved their problem.<br><br>Question---------have any of =
you had this problem and if so what did you determine was the issue and =
how did you solve it?<br><br>Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is =
leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) and the dust excluder has =
disintegrated.&nbsp; Is it possible to replace these 2 items while the =
steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut and steering =
lever?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>tom<br>65 =
BJ8<br>_______________________________________________<br>Support =
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From: Michael <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:11:07 -0400

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Hi Bob and thanks for pointing that out.
I have watched the John Deere video on their grease and must say that it ha=
s definitely made me reconsider what I was taught in my engineering classes=
 so many years ago.
Really looks like neat stuff and next time I encounter a leaking steering b=
ox I intend to give it to try.
Michael S
BN1 #174

-----Original Message-----
From: "Auto Farm" <[email-masked]>
Sent: =E2=80=8E15/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 7:04 p.m.
To: "'Michael'" <[email-masked]>; "[email-masked]" <heale=
[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

               Mike, while I would whole heartedly agree that grease is not=
 a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any gearbox for that matter, the J=
ohn Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is refered to is quite different an=
d specifically designed for gearboxes.  It is formulated for gear teeth und=
er much higher loads than our steering boxes will ever encounter, and cover=
s the teeth with a visible oily coating.  We have been using it for several=
 years with very good results and no steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or le=
aking.
Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Yule Autofarm Ltd.
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: June-15-15 8:11 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
=20
With all due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease is=
 not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.
The reason is very simple.
The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the loaded =
faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.
That is why the designers went to all the trouble of installing a seal.
Michael S
BN1 #174

From: Tom Felts

Thanks for any help.

tom
65 BJ8

[email-masked]

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 vlink=3D"purple"><div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-=
size: 11pt;">Hi Bob and thanks for pointing that out.<br>I have watched the=
 John Deere video on their grease and must say that it has definitely made =
me reconsider what I was taught in my engineering classes so many years ago=
.<br>Really looks like neat stuff and next time I encounter a leaking steer=
ing box I intend to give it to try.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size=
: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibr=
i,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Aut=
o Farm</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Cal=
ibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E15/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 7:=
04 p.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size=
: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,=
sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'=
Michael'</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size=
: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Cal=
ibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">RE: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Whee=
l Questions--BJ8</span><br><br></div><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibr=
i","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike, while I would whole hear=
tedly agree that grease is not a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any =
gearbox for that matter, the John Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is re=
fered to is quite different and specifically designed for gearboxes.&nbsp; =
It is formulated for gear teeth under much higher loads than our steering b=
oxes will ever encounter, and covers the teeth with a visible oily coating.=
&nbsp; We have been using it for several years with very good results and n=
o steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or leaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calib=
ri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Yule Autofarm Ltd.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73=
, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-=
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ntColor; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; border-image: none;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D'font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-s=
ize: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D'font-family: "Tah=
oma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael<br><b>Sent:</b> June-15-15 8:11 AM<b=
r><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Steeri=
ng Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>With all=
 due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease is not a s=
atisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.<br>The reason is v=
ery simple.<br>The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant f=
rom the loaded faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.<=
br>That is why the designers went to all the trouble of installing a seal.<=
br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div align=
=3D"center" class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align: center;"><hr width=3D"=
100%" size=3D"3" align=3D"center"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar=
gin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; f=
ont-size: 11pt;'>From: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sa=
ns-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Tom=
 Felts</a></span><br><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";=
 font-size: 11pt;'>Sent: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","=
sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>=E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p=
.m.</span><br><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-s=
ize: 11pt;'>To: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-seri=
f"; font-size: 11pt;'><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a></span><br><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-se=
rif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Subject: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Ca=
libri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>[Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Whee=
l Questions--BJ8</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom: 12pt;">I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise comin=
g from the right front suspension area when making a slow full right turn.<=
br><br>I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete=
 and is not moving.<br><br>I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.&n=
bsp; <br><br>I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.&nbs=
p; <br><br>It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.<br><b=
r>Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and f=
ound that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit fl=
ush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.&nbsp; T=
heir solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their pr=
oblem.<br><br>Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so w=
hat did you determine was the issue and how did you solve it?<br><br>Questi=
on #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) and th=
e dust excluder has disintegrated.&nbsp; Is it possible to replace these 2 =
items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut =
and steering lever?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>tom<br>65 BJ8<br>___=
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From: Rfbegani <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:17:19 -0400

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Mike

While I am not as experienced regarding restoring and repairing Healeys as y=
ou and so many on this list when I reviewed the features and benefits mentio=
ned in the tech spec and saw they were using thixotropic and polymeric prope=
rties I was convinced they were able to improve on classic  lube mixes becau=
se solder and thread compounds paste type products I sold to industry for ma=
ny years used such technology.  They were created by a u of Chicago phd. As y=
ou all will see if you look at the video in a semi liquid state sticks to th=
e gear surfaces when lube is needed If my steering box becomes a leaker will=
 try JD grease first before disassembly.

Regards

Bob Begani

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Michael <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I have watched the John Deere video on their grease and must say that it h=
as definitely made me reconsider what I was taught in my engineering classes=
 so many years ago.
> From: Auto Farm
> To: 'Michael'; [email-masked]
>                Mike, while I would whole heartedly agree that grease is no=
t a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any gearbox for that matter, the J=
ohn Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is refered to is quite different and=
 specifically designed for gearboxes.  It is formulated for gear teeth under=
 much higher loads than our steering boxes will ever encounter, and covers t=
he teeth with a visible oily coating.  We have been using it for several yea=
rs with very good results and no steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or leaking=
.
> From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Michael=

> With all due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease i=
s not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.
> The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the loaded=
> I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right front=
>=20
> I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and i=
s not moving.
> Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and fo=
und that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit flus=
h with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.  Their sol=
ution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem.
>=20
> Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you d=
etermine was the issue and how did you solve it?
>=20
> Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal)=
 and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these 2=
 items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut a=
nd steering lever?
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaels=
[email-masked]
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rfbegani=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Mike</div><div><br></div><div>While I a=
m not as experienced regarding restoring and repairing Healeys as you and so=
 many on this list when I reviewed the features and benefits mentioned in th=
e tech spec and saw they were using thixotropic and polymeric properties I w=
as convinced they were able to improve on classic &nbsp;lube mixes because s=
older and thread compounds paste type products I sold to industry for many y=
ears used such technology. &nbsp;They were created by a u of Chicago phd. As=
 you all will see if you look at the video in a semi liquid state sticks to t=
he gear surfaces when lube is needed If my steering box becomes a leaker wil=
l try JD grease first before disassembly.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</=
div><div><br></div><div>Bob Begani<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>=
On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Michael &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gm=
ail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote ty=
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Hi Bob and thanks for pointing that out.<br>I ha=
ve watched the John Deere video on their grease and must say that it has def=
initely made me reconsider what I was taught in my engineering classes so ma=
ny years ago.<br>Really looks like neat stuff and next time I encounter a le=
aking steering box I intend to give it to try.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family:=
 Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
a">Auto Farm</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family:=
 Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E15/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015=
 7:04 p.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-si=
ze: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri=
,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'=
Michael'</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri=
,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">RE: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Que=
stions--BJ8</span><br><br></div><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 11pt;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike, while I would w=
hole heartedly agree that grease is not a good lubricant for steering boxes,=
 or any gearbox for that matter, the John Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 tha=
t is refered to is quite different and specifically designed for gearboxes.&=
nbsp; It is formulated for gear teeth under much higher loads than our steer=
ing boxes will ever encounter, and covers the teeth with a visible oily coat=
ing.&nbsp; We have been using it for several years with very good results an=
d no steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or leaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 11pt;">Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Y=
ule Autofarm Ltd.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;; font-size: 11pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"bord=
er-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rg=
b(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; border-ima=
ge: none;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-fami=
ly: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span=
></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;; font-size: 10pt;"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces=
@autox.team.net">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of <=
/b>Michael<br><b>Sent:</b> June-15-15 8:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [=
Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;; font-size: 11pt;">With all due respects to those recommending it for s=
teering boxes grease is not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precisi=
on gearbox.<br>The reason is very simple.<br>The pressure on the gear teeth w=
ill displace the lubricant from the loaded faces so that lubricant must be a=
 liquid to be replenished.<br>That is why the designers went to all the trou=
ble of installing a seal.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v></div><div><div align=3D"center" class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align: c=
enter;"><hr width=3D"100%" size=3D"3" align=3D"center"></div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;=
Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 11pt;">From: </span></b><sp=
an style=3D"font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-si=
ze: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Tom Felts</a></span><b=
r><b><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;=
 font-size: 11pt;">Sent: </span></b><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=
=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.</span><br><b><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 11pt;">To: </span></b><span style=3D=
"font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 11pt;">=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></span><=
br><b><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
; font-size: 11pt;">Subject: </span></b><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 11pt;">[Healeys] Steering Box=
 and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">I have recently been hearing a "pop pop"=
 noise coming from the right front suspension area when making a slow full r=
ight turn.<br><br>I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is o=
n concrete and is not moving.<br><br>I noted this same condition on my E-Typ=
e also.&nbsp; <br><br>I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new h=
ubs.&nbsp; <br><br>It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines=
.<br><br>Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem=
 and found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not f=
it flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.&nbs=
p; Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their=
 problem.<br><br>Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so=
 what did you determine was the issue and how did you solve it?<br><br>Quest=
ion #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) and th=
e dust excluder has disintegrated.&nbsp; Is it possible to replace these 2 i=
tems while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut an=
d steering lever?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>tom<br>65 BJ8<br>______=
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