Subject: Re: [Healeys] Re-assembly time frame

From: I Erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 20:42:57 -0700

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The biggest issue is that shit don't go back in reverse order, no matter
what the manual says.  Seriously,  the issues of time resolve around the
stuff you discovery that need to be fixed, or having a third hand handy
when need it.
I think 2-3 days is very hopeful.

Mr. Ira Erbs
On Jun 14, 2015 7:57 PM, "Chris Scholz" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> For those who have done a complete nut and bolt restoration, how many
> hours do you budget for an experienced mechanic to reassemble the exterior
> of a 100-6?  I'm mainly talking body panels, doors, trunk, bonnet,
> windshield, trim, lights, grill, bumpers. Not concerned with wiring,
> drivetrain, or interior at this stage. Just exterior.
>
> I was budgeting 2-3 days based on other's conversations, but I may be way
> off.  Thanks.
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">The biggest issue is that shit don&#39;t go back in reverse =
order, no matter what the manual says.=C2=A0 Seriously,=C2=A0 the issues of=
 time resolve around the stuff you discovery that need to be fixed, or havi=
ng a third hand handy when need it. <br>
I think 2-3 days is very hopeful.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jun 14, 2015 7:57 PM, &quot;Chris Scholz&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">drscholz@visioncenterp=
c.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>For those who have done a complete nut and bolt restoration, how many hour=
s do you budget for an experienced mechanic to reassemble the exterior of a=
 100-6?=C2=A0 I&#39;m mainly talking body panels, doors, trunk, bonnet, win=
dshield, trim, lights, grill, bumpers. Not concerned with wiring, drivetrai=
n, or interior at this stage. Just exterior.<br>
<br>
I was budgeting 2-3 days based on other&#39;s conversations, but I may be w=
ay off.=C2=A0 Thanks.<br>
<br>
<br><br>
<br>
<br><br>
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From: Derek Job <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:15:34 +0100

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How long is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a time on all that. It
can take an age to line up all the panels correctly and hang the doors so
the latches work perfectly. Are they all the same panel parts that came off
the car? Windshield, lights, grill and bumpers are all simple and you can
do those yourself.

Derek

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<div dir=3D"ltr">How long is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a tim=
e on all that. It can take an age to line up all the panels correctly and h=
ang the doors so the latches work perfectly. Are they all the same panel pa=
rts that came off the car? Windshield, lights, grill and bumpers are all si=
mple and you can do those yourself.<div><br></div><div style>Derek</div></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15=
, 2015 at 4:42 AM, I Erbs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">The biggest issue is that shit don&=
#39;t go back in reverse order, no matter what the manual says.=C2=A0 Serio=
usly,=C2=A0 the issues of time resolve around the stuff you discovery that =
need to be fixed, or having a third hand handy when need it. <br>
I think 2-3 days is very hopeful.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Jun 14, 2015 7:57 PM, &quot;=
Chris Scholz&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribut=
ion"></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">For those who h=
ave done a complete nut and bolt restoration, how many hours do you budget =
for an experienced mechanic to reassemble the exterior of a 100-6?=C2=A0 I&=
#39;m mainly talking body panels, doors, trunk, bonnet, windshield, trim, l=
ights, grill, bumpers. Not concerned with wiring, drivetrain, or interior a=
t this stage. Just exterior.<br>
<br>
I was budgeting 2-3 days based on other&#39;s conversations, but I may be w=
ay off.=C2=A0 Thanks.<br>
<br>
<br><br>
<br>
<br><br>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:50:20 -0800

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2-3 days not a chance. To strip the car to a bare chassis about 40 hours.  I=
 would a lot at least 100 hours to do what you are asking. As long as everyt=
hing is ready to install. And that would probably concervitave=20

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> How long is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a time on all that. I=
t can take an age to line up all the panels correctly and hang the doors so t=
he latches work perfectly. Are they all the same panel parts that came off t=
he car? Windshield, lights, grill and bumpers are all simple and you can do t=
hose yourself.
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rim, lights, grill, bumpers. Not concerned with wiring, drivetrain, or inter=
ior at this stage. Just exterior.
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y off.  Thanks.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
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r to a bare chassis about 40 hours. &nbsp;I would a lot at least 100 hours t=
o do what you are asking. As long as everything is ready to install. And tha=
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k Job &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">How=
 long is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a time on all that. It can=
 take an age to line up all the panels correctly and hang the doors so the l=
atches work perfectly. Are they all the same panel parts that came off the c=
ar? Windshield, lights, grill and bumpers are all simple and you can do thos=
e yourself.<div><br></div><div style=3D"">Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:42 AM, I E=
rbs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<p dir=3D"ltr">The biggest issue is that shit don't go back in reverse order=
, no matter what the manual says.&nbsp; Seriously,&nbsp; the issues of time r=
esolve around the stuff you discovery that need to be fixed, or having a thi=
rd hand handy when need it. <br>
I think 2-3 days is very hopeful.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Jun 14, 2015 7:57 PM, "Chris S=
cholz" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"></span><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">For those who have done a compl=
ete nut and bolt restoration, how many hours do you budget for an experience=
d mechanic to reassemble the exterior of a 100-6?&nbsp; I'm mainly talking b=
ody panels, doors, trunk, bonnet, windshield, trim, lights, grill, bumpers. N=
ot concerned with wiring, drivetrain, or interior at this stage. Just exteri=
or.<br>
<br>
I was budgeting 2-3 days based on other's conversations, but I may be way of=
f.&nbsp; Thanks.<br>
<br>
<br><br>
<br>
<br><br>
<br></span>
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Hi Chris,
At least this is the fun bit BUT I would absolutely have to agree with
David.
If it was an original car, and all the parts were properly restored and
sorted I would budget 40 hours..
Add to that any time to clean up threads, find missing parts, clean and
paint all those little (and larger) bits, repair all the damaged harness
connectors, research where things fit (particularly if you haven't
assembled one before or even recently), endlessly sort through fasteners to
find one more "correct" hex bolt or narrow section lock washer, etc, etc.
Remember that car is at least 56 years old and many many parts of it will
require work before they can be reused.
I have over 200 hours of body shell reassembly on #174 after paint not
including mechanical, interior or top.
You can do it quick or you can do it right but not both.
Michael S
BN1 #174

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> 2-3 days not a chance. To strip the car to a bare chassis about 40 hours.
> I would a lot at least 100 hours to do what you are asking. As long as
> everything is ready to install. And that would probably concervitave
>
>
> David Nock
>
> British Car Specialists
>
> Stockton Ca 95205
>
> 209-948-8767
>
>
> Enjoy
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOTTRYkbQzs
>
> .
>
> .
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> How long is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a time on all that.
> It can take an age to line up all the panels correctly and hang the doors
> so the latches work perfectly. Are they all the same panel parts that came
> off the car? Windshield, lights, grill and bumpers are all simple and you
> can do those yourself.
>
> Derek
>
>>> I was budgeting 2-3 days based on other's conversations, but I may be
>>> way off.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Chris, <br>At least this is the fun bi=
t BUT I would absolutely have to agree with David.<br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small=
">If it was an original car, and all the parts were properly restored and s=
orted I would budget 40 hours.. <br>Add to that any time to clean up thread=
s, find missing parts, clean and paint all those little (and larger) bits, =
repair all the damaged harness connectors, research where things fit (parti=
cularly if you haven&#39;t assembled one before or even recently), endlessl=
y sort through fasteners to find one more &quot;correct&quot; hex bolt or n=
arrow section lock washer, etc, etc.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Remember tha=
t car is at least 56 years old and many many parts of it will require work =
before they can be reused.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have over 200 hours =
of body shell reassembly on #174 after paint not including mechanical, inte=
rior or top.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:com=
ic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">You can do it quick or you can do it=
 right but not both.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size=
:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:50 PM, David Nock <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeydoc@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto"><div>2-3 days not a chance. To strip the car to a bare chassis ab=
out 40 hours.=C2=A0 I would a lot at least 100 hours to do what you are ask=
ing. As long as everything is ready to install. And that would probably con=
cervitave=C2=A0<br><br><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;border-=
spacing:0px"><p style=3D"margin:0px;min-height:14px"><br></p><p style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px"><font style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">David Nock</=
font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px"><font style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,2=
55,255,0)">British Car Specialists</font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px"><font =
style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Stockton Ca 95205</font></p>=
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><font><a href=3D"tel:209-948-8767" style=3D"backgro=
und-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target=3D"_blank">209-948-8767</a></font></p=
><p style=3D"margin:0px;min-height:14px"><span style=3D"background-color:rg=
ba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0px"><font><a href=3D"=
http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/" style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,2=
55,255,0)" target=3D"_blank">www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></font></p><p=
 style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">=
<br></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"background-color:rgba=
(255,255,255,0)">Please feel free to view an interview with the Nock&#39;s =
in 2009</span></p><p style=3D"margin:0px"><font style=3D"background-color:r=
gba(255,255,255,0)"><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>Enjoy<span=
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<font><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQOTTRYkbQzs" style=3D"bac=
kground-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/watch?=
v=3DQOTTRYkbQzs</a></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px"><font style=3D"backgr=
ound-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">.</font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px"><font s=
tyle=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">.</font></p><div><font style=
=3D"font-size:12px" face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3"><br></font></div></span><=
/div><div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On J=
un 14, 2015, at 11:15 PM, Derek Job &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:derek.c.job@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">How long is a piece of strin=
g? Very difficult to put a time on all that. It can take an age to line up =
all the panels correctly and hang the doors so the latches work perfectly. =
Are they all the same panel parts that came off the car? Windshield, lights=
, grill and bumpers are all simple and you can do those yourself.<div><br><=
/div><div>Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:42 AM, I Erbs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">The biggest=
 issue is that shit don&#39;t go back in reverse order, no matter what the =
manual says.=C2=A0 Seriously,=C2=A0 the issues of time resolve around the s=
tuff you discovery that need to be fixed, or having a third hand handy when=
 need it. <br>
I think 2-3 days is very hopeful.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Jun 14, 2015 7:57 PM, &quot;Chris Schol=
z&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
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><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>For those who have done a complete nu=
t and bolt restoration, how many hours do you budget for an experienced mec=
hanic to reassemble the exterior of a 100-6?=C2=A0 I&#39;m mainly talking b=
ody panels, doors, trunk, bonnet, windshield, trim, lights, grill, bumpers.=
 Not concerned with wiring, drivetrain, or interior at this stage. Just ext=
erior.<br>
<br>
I was budgeting 2-3 days based on other&#39;s conversations, but I may be w=
ay off.=C2=A0 Thanks.<br>
<br>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:56:23 -0500

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Good points. I am having rotator surgery on my right arm so I will be giving=
 up many duties and having the restoration company finish them for me since I=
'll be immobilized for 6 wks, then PT.=20

One item--- instead of using the nuts and bolts to re-hang the fenders, one o=
f the mechanics is using clips so he wont have to fumble with trying to get t=
he nut on the bolt. Not sure if this is any big deal, but not the way it was=
 done at the factory. I remembered disassembly, how much of a pain it was to=
 get two wrenches on each attachment.=20

Some days I feel the reassembly is going so slow, I forget how tough of a jo=
b it is. On the other hand, I don't want to pay for time wasted since this i=
s their first Healey. They have done thousands of restorations, and each car=
 is unique.=20

I'm going there tomorrow to have them estimate the labor needed to finish th=
e project and hope to be at the finish line soon!!

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

> On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>=20
> Hi Chris,=20
> At least this is the fun bit BUT I would absolutely have to agree with Dav=
id.
> If it was an original car, and all the parts were properly restored and so=
rted I would budget 40 hours..=20
> Add to that any time to clean up threads, find missing parts, clean and pa=
int all those little (and larger) bits, repair all the damaged harness conne=
ctors, research where things fit (particularly if you haven't assembled one b=
efore or even recently), endlessly sort through fasteners to find one more "=
correct" hex bolt or narrow section lock washer, etc, etc.
> Remember that car is at least 56 years old and many many parts of it will r=
equire work before they can be reused.
> I have over 200 hours of body shell reassembly on #174 after paint not inc=
luding mechanical, interior or top.
>> 2-3 days not a chance. To strip the car to a bare chassis about 40 hours.=
  I would a lot at least 100 hours to do what you are asking. As long as eve=
rything is ready to install. And that would probably concervitave=20
>>> How long is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a time on all that.=
 It can take an age to line up all the panels correctly and hang the doors s=
o the latches work perfectly. Are they all the same panel parts that came of=
f the car? Windshield, lights, grill and bumpers are all simple and you can d=
o those yourself.
>>>> The biggest issue is that shit don't go back in reverse order, no matte=
r what the manual says.  Seriously,  the issues of time resolve around the s=
tuff you discovery that need to be fixed, or having a third hand handy when n=
eed it.=20
>>>>> On Jun 14, 2015 7:57 PM, "Chris Scholz" <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>>>>> For those who have done a complete nut and bolt restoration, how many h=
ours do you budget for an experienced mechanic to reassemble the exterior of=
 a 100-6?  I'm mainly talking body panels, doors, trunk, bonnet, windshield,=
 trim, lights, grill, bumpers. Not concerned with wiring, drivetrain, or int=
erior at this stage. Just exterior.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I was budgeting 2-3 days based on other's conversations, but I may be w=
ay off.  Thanks.
>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyer=
[email-masked]
>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/derek=
[email-masked]
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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:06:28 -0400

Chris,

I think that most of the fasteners used to attach the fenders are bolts 
and clips.  The clips are installed on the top lip of the fenders.  I 
thought the bolts had a square thread, but the factory parts manual 
calls them spire bolts, so may-be not. Normal" nut and bolts are found 
along the bottom of the dog legs.  See Moss p/n 321-868 and 321-818.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php

On 06/17/2015 10:56 PM, Chris Scholz wrote:
> Good points. I am having rotator surgery on my right arm so I will be
> giving up many duties and having the restoration company finish them for
> me since I'll be immobilized for 6 wks, then PT.
>
> One item--- instead of using the nuts and bolts to re-hang the fenders,
> one of the mechanics is using clips so he wont have to fumble with
> trying to get the nut on the bolt. Not sure if this is any big deal, but
> not the way it was done at the factory. I remembered disassembly, how
> much of a pain it was to get two wrenches on each attachment.
>
> Some days I feel the reassembly is going so slow, I forget how tough of
> a job it is. On the other hand, I don't want to pay for time wasted
> since this is their first Healey. They have done thousands of
> restorations, and each car is unique.
>
> I'm going there tomorrow to have them estimate the labor needed to
> finish the project and hope to be at the finish line soon!!
>
>
> image1.jpeg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
> On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]
>
>> Hi Chris,
>> If it was an original car, and all the parts were properly restored
>> and sorted I would budget 40 hours..
>> Add to that any time to clean up threads, find missing parts, clean
>> and paint all those little (and larger) bits, repair all the damaged
>> harness connectors, research where things fit (particularly if you
>> haven't assembled one before or even recently), endlessly sort through
>> fasteners to find one more "correct" hex bolt or narrow section lock
>> washer, etc, etc.
>> Remember that car is at least 56 years old and many many parts of it
>> will require work before they can be reused.
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:50 PM, David Nock <[email-masked]
>>
>>     2-3 days not a chance. To strip the car to a bare chassis about 40
>>     hours.  I would a lot at least 100 hours to do what you are
>>     asking. As long as everything is ready to install. And that would
>>     probably concervitave
>>
>>
>>     David Nock
>>
>>     British Car Specialists
>>
>>     Stockton Ca 95205
>>
>>     209-948-8767 <tel:209-948-8767>
>>
>>
>>     www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/>
>>
>>
>>     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOTTRYkbQzs>
>>
>>     .
>>
>>     .
>>
>>
>>     Sent from my iPad
>>
>>     On Jun 14, 2015, at 11:15 PM, Derek Job <[email-masked]
>>
>>>     How long is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a time on
>>>     all that. It can take an age to line up all the panels correctly
>>>     and hang the doors so the latches work perfectly. Are they all
>>>     the same panel parts that came off the car? Windshield, lights,
>>>     grill and bumpers are all simple and you can do those yourself.
>>>
>>>     Derek
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:42 AM, I Erbs <[email-masked]
>>>
>>>         The biggest issue is that shit don't go back in reverse
>>>         order, no matter what the manual says.  Seriously,  the
>>>         issues of time resolve around the stuff you discovery that
>>>         need to be fixed, or having a third hand handy when need it.
>>>         On Jun 14, 2015 7:57 PM, "Chris Scholz"
>>>         <[email-masked]
>>>
>>>             For those who have done a complete nut and bolt
>>>             restoration, how many hours do you budget for an
>>>             experienced mechanic to reassemble the exterior of a
>>>             100-6?  I'm mainly talking body panels, doors, trunk,
>>>             bonnet, windshield, trim, lights, grill, bumpers. Not
>>>             concerned with wiring, drivetrain, or interior at this
>>>             stage. Just exterior.
>>>
>>>             I was budgeting 2-3 days based on other's conversations,
>>>             but I may be way off.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             Sent from my iPhone
>>>             Chris Scholz
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>> /If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem./
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From: Michael <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:21:50 -0400

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Actually Chris your assembler seems to know a thing or 2.
Clips and special Acme thread screws with special"D" washers were what was =
used almost exclusively to secure the fenders.=20
Using nuts and bolts makes assembly and particularly disassembly much more =
difficult.
Michael S
BN1 #174

-----Original Message-----
From: "Chris Scholz" <[email-masked]>
Sent: =E2=80=8E17/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 10:56 p.m.
To: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Re-assembly time frame

Good points. I am having rotator surgery on my right arm so I will be givin=
g up many duties and having the restoration company finish them for me sinc=
e I'll be immobilized for 6 wks, then PT.=20

One item--- instead of using the nuts and bolts to re-hang the fenders, one=
 of the mechanics is using clips so he wont have to fumble with trying to g=
et the nut on the bolt. Not sure if this is any big deal, but not the way i=
t was done at the factory. I remembered disassembly, how much of a pain it =
was to get two wrenches on each attachment.=20

Some days I feel the reassembly is going so slow, I forget how tough of a j=
ob it is. On the other hand, I don't want to pay for time wasted since this=
 is their first Healey. They have done thousands of restorations, and each =
car is unique.=20

I'm going there tomorrow to have them estimate the labor needed to finish t=
he project and hope to be at the finish line soon!!

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

Hi Chris,=20
At least this is the fun bit BUT I would absolutely have to agree with Davi=
d.

If it was an original car, and all the parts were properly restored and sor=
ted I would budget 40 hours..=20
Add to that any time to clean up threads, find missing parts, clean and pai=
nt all those little (and larger) bits, repair all the damaged harness conne=
ctors, research where things fit (particularly if you haven't assembled one=
 before or even recently), endlessly sort through fasteners to find one mor=
e "correct" hex bolt or narrow section lock washer, etc, etc.

I have over 200 hours of body shell reassembly on #174 after paint not incl=
uding mechanical, interior or top.

Michael S

BN1 #174

2-3 days not a chance. To strip the car to a bare chassis about 40 hours.  =
I would a lot at least 100 hours to do what you are asking. As long as ever=
ything is ready to install. And that would probably concervitave=20

David Nock
British Car Specialists
Stockton Ca 95205
209-948-8767

Enjoy=20

Sent from my iPad

How long is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a time on all that. It=
 can take an age to line up all the panels correctly and hang the doors so =
the latches work perfectly. Are they all the same panel parts that came off=
 the car? Windshield, lights, grill and bumpers are all simple and you can =
do those yourself.

Derek

The biggest issue is that shit don't go back in reverse order, no matter wh=
at the manual says.  Seriously,  the issues of time resolve around the stuf=
f you discovery that need to be fixed, or having a third hand handy when ne=
ed it.=20
I think 2-3 days is very hopeful.
Mr. Ira Erbs
On Jun 14, 2015 7:57 PM, "Chris Scholz" <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

For those who have done a complete nut and bolt restoration, how many hours=
 do you budget for an experienced mechanic to reassemble the exterior of a =
100-6?  I'm mainly talking body panels, doors, trunk, bonnet, windshield, t=
rim, lights, grill, bumpers. Not concerned with wiring, drivetrain, or inte=
rior at this stage. Just exterior.

I was budgeting 2-3 days based on other's conversations, but I may be way o=
ff.  Thanks.

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri=
,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Actually Chris your assembler seems to know =
a thing or 2.<br>Clips and special Acme thread screws with special"D" washe=
rs were what was used almost exclusively to secure the fenders. <br>Using n=
uts and bolts makes assembly and particularly disassembly much more difficu=
lt.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D=
"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From=
: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Chris Scholz</a></span><br><=
span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight=
: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-=
size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E17/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 10:56 p.m.</span><br><sp=
an style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: =
bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size=
: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Michael Salter</a></spa=
n><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font=
-weight: bold;">Cc: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; =
font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-=
size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:=
 Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Healeys] Re-assembly time frame=
</span><br><br></div><div>Good points. I am having rotator surgery on my ri=
ght arm so I will be giving up many duties and having the restoration compa=
ny finish them for me since I'll be immobilized for 6 wks, then PT.&nbsp;</=
div><div><br></div><div>One item--- instead of using the nuts and bolts to =
re-hang the fenders, one of the mechanics is using clips so he wont have to=
 fumble with trying to get the nut on the bolt. Not sure if this is any big=
 deal, but not the way it was done at the factory. I remembered disassembly=
, how much of a pain it was to get two wrenches on each attachment.&nbsp;<b=
r><br>Some days I feel the reassembly is going so slow, I forget how tough =
of a job it is. On the other hand, I don't want to pay for time wasted sinc=
e this is their first Healey. They have done thousands of restorations, and=
 each car is unique.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I'm going there tomorro=
w to have them estimate the labor needed to finish the project and hope to =
be at the finish line soon!!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img i=
d=3D"36042641-1972-4981-9DCE-BDCC79D63DAF" alt=3D"image1.jpeg" src=3D"cid:3=
6042641-1972-4981-9DCE-BDCC79D63DAF"></div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone<div=
>Chris Scholz OD</div></div><div><br>On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Michael S=
alter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-se=
rif; font-size: small;">Hi Chris, <br>At least this is the fun bit BUT I wo=
uld absolutely have to agree with David.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">If i=
t was an original car, and all the parts were properly restored and sorted =
I would budget 40 hours.. <br>Add to that any time to clean up threads, fin=
d missing parts, clean and paint all those little (and larger) bits, repair=
 all the damaged harness connectors, research where things fit (particularl=
y if you haven't assembled one before or even recently), endlessly sort thr=
ough fasteners to find one more "correct" hex bolt or narrow section lock w=
asher, etc, etc.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Remember that car is at leas=
t 56 years old and many many parts of it will require work before they can =
be reused.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comi=
c sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">I have over 200 hours of body shel=
l reassembly on #174 after paint not including mechanical, interior or top.=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,=
sans-serif; font-size: small;">You can do it quick or you can do it right b=
ut not both.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: co=
mic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: =
small;">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:50 PM, David Nock <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeydoc@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(20=
4, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir=
=3D"auto"><div>2-3 days not a chance. To strip the car to a bare chassis ab=
out 40 hours.&nbsp; I would a lot at least 100 hours to do what you are ask=
ing. As long as everything is ready to install. And that would probably con=
cervitave&nbsp;<br><br><div><span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; borde=
r-spacing: 0px;"><p style=3D"margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></p><p sty=
le=3D"margin: 0px;"><font style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)=
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-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">British Car Specialists</font></p><p style=
=3D"margin: 0px;"><font style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"=
>Stockton Ca 95205</font></p><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font><a style=3D"ba=
ckground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" href=3D"tel:209-948-8767" target=
=3D"_blank">209-948-8767</a></font></p><p style=3D"margin: 0px; min-height:=
 14px;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></spa=
n></p><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font><a style=3D"background-color: rgba(25=
5, 255, 255, 0);" href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/" target=3D"=
_blank">www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></font></p><p style=3D"margin: 0px=
;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p=
><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, =
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ong is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a time on all that. It can =
take an age to line up all the panels correctly and hang the doors so the l=
atches work perfectly. Are they all the same panel parts that came off the =
car? Windshield, lights, grill and bumpers are all simple and you can do th=
ose yourself.<div><br></div><div>Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:42 AM, I Erbs <s=
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r=3D"ltr">The biggest issue is that shit don't go back in reverse order, no=
 matter what the manual says.&nbsp; Seriously,&nbsp; the issues of time res=
olve around the stuff you discovery that need to be fixed, or having a thir=
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They did not use 'nuts and bolts' on the fenders, they used clips that the
bolt screws into. AH Spares sells complete fastening packages for
installation of the wings.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> thought the bolts had a square thread, but the factory parts manual calls
> them spire bolts, so may-be not. Normal" nut and bolts are found along the
> bottom of the dog legs.  See Moss p/n 321-868 and 321-818.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Haskell
> AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar
>>>     www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/
>>> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">They did not use &#39;nuts and bolts&#39; on the fenders, =
they used clips that the bolt screws into. AH Spares sells complete fasteni=
ng packages for installation of the wings.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Bob Haskel=
l <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">Chris,<br>
<br>
I think that most of the fasteners used to attach the fenders are bolts and=
 clips.=C2=A0 The clips are installed on the top lip of the fenders.=C2=A0 =
I thought the bolts had a square thread, but the factory parts manual calls=
 them spire bolts, so may-be not. Normal&quot; nut and bolts are found alon=
g the bottom of the dog legs.=C2=A0 See Moss p/n 321-868 and 321-818.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br>
<br>
On 06/17/2015 10:56 PM, Chris Scholz wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Good points. I am having rotator surgery on my right arm so I will be<br>
giving up many duties and having the restoration company finish them for<br=
me since I&#39;ll be immobilized for 6 wks, then PT.<br>
<br>
One item--- instead of using the nuts and bolts to re-hang the fenders,<br>
one of the mechanics is using clips so he wont have to fumble with<br>
trying to get the nut on the bolt. Not sure if this is any big deal, but<br=
not the way it was done at the factory. I remembered disassembly, how<br>
much of a pain it was to get two wrenches on each attachment.<br>
<br>
Some days I feel the reassembly is going so slow, I forget how tough of<br>
a job it is. On the other hand, I don&#39;t want to pay for time wasted<br>
since this is their first Healey. They have done thousands of<br>
restorations, and each car is unique.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m going there tomorrow to have them estimate the labor needed to<br>
finish the project and hope to be at the finish line soon!!<br>
<br>
<br>
image1.jpeg<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
Chris Scholz OD<br>
<br>
On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsa=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mic=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Chris,<br>
At least this is the fun bit BUT I would absolutely have to agree with<br>
David.<br>
If it was an original car, and all the parts were properly restored<br>
and sorted I would budget 40 hours..<br>
Add to that any time to clean up threads, find missing parts, clean<br>
and paint all those little (and larger) bits, repair all the damaged<br>
harness connectors, research where things fit (particularly if you<br>
haven&#39;t assembled one before or even recently), endlessly sort through<=
br>
fasteners to find one more &quot;correct&quot; hex bolt or narrow section l=
ock<br>
washer, etc, etc.<br>
Remember that car is at least 56 years old and many many parts of it<br>
will require work before they can be reused.<br>
I have over 200 hours of body shell reassembly on #174 after paint not<br>
including mechanical, interior or top.<br>
You can do it quick or you can do it right but not both.<br>
Michael S<br>
BN1 #174<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:50 PM, David Nock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2-3 days not a chance. To strip the car to a bare chassis abo=
ut 40<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 hours.=C2=A0 I would a lot at least 100 hours to do what you =
are<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 asking. As long as everything is ready to install. And that w=
ould<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 probably concervitave<br>
<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 David Nock<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Please feel free to view an interview with the Nock&#39;s in =
2009<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Enjoy<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Jun 14, 2015, at 11:15 PM, Derek Job &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 How long is a piece of string? Very difficult to put a time o=
n<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 all that. It can take an age to line up all the panels correc=
tly<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and hang the doors so the latches work perfectly. Are they al=
l<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the same panel parts that came off the car? Windshield, light=
s,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 grill and bumpers are all simple and you can do those yoursel=
f.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Derek<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:42 AM, I Erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
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nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The biggest issue is that shit don&#39;t go bac=
k in reverse<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 order, no matter what the manual says.=C2=A0 Se=
riously,=C2=A0 the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 issues of time resolve around the stuff you dis=
covery that<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 need to be fixed, or having a third hand handy =
when need it.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I think 2-3 days is very hopeful.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mr. Ira Erbs<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Jun 14, 2015 7:57 PM, &quot;Chris Scholz&quo=
t;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 For those who have done a complet=
e nut and bolt<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 restoration, how many hours do yo=
u budget for an<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 experienced mechanic to reassembl=
e the exterior of a<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 100-6?=C2=A0 I&#39;m mainly talki=
ng body panels, doors, trunk,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 bonnet, windshield, trim, lights,=
 grill, bumpers. Not<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 concerned with wiring, drivetrain=
, or interior at this<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 stage. Just exterior.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I was budgeting 2-3 days based on=
 other&#39;s conversations,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 but I may be way off.=C2=A0 Thank=
s.<br>
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