Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Legacy License Plate program

From: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 09:32:53 +0800

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I think it's fine, they made so many of us give up our black and blue
plates, only a handful of very stubborn enthusiasts have been able to keep
their original plates, I had to give them up on my BJ8 when my local DMV
refused to renew them in the 80's.  So now I can go get them again for a
small fee.  CA needs the money, so this is a good way for them to raise
money without raising taxes.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Rohan Marr <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Apologies if this has already been discussed, but I found this today and
> as an owner of an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California car.=
 I have mixed
> feelings on this one. Firstly it is worth reading up on the announcement
> and links:
>
> Classic California License Plates to Hit Streets this Summer:
> https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41
> CA DMV: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index
>
> So why the mixed feelings, well original black plates had some value and
> meaning - the car was an original California car. Unfortunately my plates
> have really deteriorated, and after a few steep driveways (you know how l=
ow
> our cars are) I have bent them in half one by one until they broke in hal=
f.
> I only ever had one plate on the rear and swapped it =E2=80=A6 the curren=
t one is
> hanging on by a thread. So I was looking to see if someone would reproduc=
e
> them and I remember a link to someone who =E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=9D =
remade them
> published on this list a few years ago. These new ones will reportedly us=
e
> the same dye press tooling as the originals out of Folsom Prison (not sur=
e
> where I read that), but unlike the original these will have a modern
> reflective coating and more importantly be available for use on any
> vehicle, both old and new, or car, truck or motorcycles. I know how I fee=
l
> about a Prius with black plates!
>
> So what I really want to do is replace my plates with the same number etc
> with an original look, or do I want to give up on that and bite the bulle=
t
> for a vanity plate with the new black?
>
> What does everyone think of this?
>
> Rohan (aka Aussie)
> =E2=80=9956 Longbridge BN4 =E2=80=9CHellouise"
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think it&#39;s fine, they made so many of us give up our=
 black and blue plates, only a handful of very stubborn enthusiasts have be=
en able to keep their original plates, I had to give them up on my BJ8 when=
 my local DMV refused to renew them in the 80&#39;s.=C2=A0 So now I can go =
get them again for a small fee.=C2=A0 CA needs the money, so this is a good=
 way for them to raise money without raising taxes.=C2=A0<div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Ro=
han Marr <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Apologies if this has alread=
y been discussed, but I found this today and as an owner of an original =E2=
=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California car. I have mixed feelings on this o=
ne. Firstly it is worth reading up on the announcement and links:<div><br><=
/div><div>Classic California License Plates to Hit Streets this Summer:=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel=
15/2015_41" target=3D"_blank">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs=
/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41</a></div><div>CA DMV:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://ww=
w.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index</a></div><div><br></d=
iv><div>So why the mixed feelings, well original black plates had some valu=
e and meaning - the car was an original California car. Unfortunately my pl=
ates have really deteriorated, and after a few steep driveways (you know ho=
w low our cars are) I have bent them in half one by one until they broke in=
 half. I only ever had one plate on the rear and swapped it =E2=80=A6 the c=
urrent one is hanging on by a thread. So I was looking to see if someone wo=
uld reproduce them and I remember a link to someone who =E2=80=9Cunofficial=
ly=E2=80=9D remade them published on this list a few years ago. These new o=
nes will reportedly use the same dye press tooling as the originals out of =
Folsom Prison (not sure where I read that), but unlike the original these w=
ill have a modern reflective coating and more importantly be available for =
use on any vehicle, both old and new, or car, truck or motorcycles. I know =
how I feel about a Prius with black plates!</div><div><br></div><div>So wha=
t I really want to do is replace my plates with the same number etc with an=
 original look, or do I want to give up on that and bite the bullet for a v=
anity plate with the new black?</div><div><br></div><div>What does everyone=
 think of this?</div><div><br></div><div>Rohan (aka Aussie)</div><div><div =
style=3D"margin:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica">=E2=80=9956 Longbridge BN4</f=
ont>=C2=A0=E2=80=9CHellouise&quot;</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>=
</div></div>

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From: I Erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:50:35 -0700

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I think I have a pair of 63 yellow and black plates. Make me a good offer
and I'll look in the garage for them

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
   _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

> plates, only a handful of very stubborn enthusiasts have been able to kee=
p
>> as an owner of an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California car=
. I have mixed
>> meaning - the car was an original California car. Unfortunately my plate=
s
>> have really deteriorated, and after a few steep driveways (you know how =
low
>> our cars are) I have bent them in half one by one until they broke in ha=
lf.
>> I only ever had one plate on the rear and swapped it =E2=80=A6 the curre=
nt one is
>> hanging on by a thread. So I was looking to see if someone would reprodu=
ce
>> them and I remember a link to someone who =E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=9D=
 remade them
>> published on this list a few years ago. These new ones will reportedly u=
se
>> the same dye press tooling as the originals out of Folsom Prison (not su=
re
>> vehicle, both old and new, or car, truck or motorcycles. I know how I fe=
el
>> So what I really want to do is replace my plates with the same number et=
c
>> with an original look, or do I want to give up on that and bite the bull=
et
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">I t=
hink I have a pair of 63 yellow and black plates. Make me a good offer and =
I&#39;ll look in the garage for them</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 _______=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_=
_____ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (___=
______________________)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Alan Seigri=
st <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think it&#39;s fine, they made so many of us g=
ive up our black and blue plates, only a handful of very stubborn enthusias=
ts have been able to keep their original plates, I had to give them up on m=
y BJ8 when my local DMV refused to renew them in the 80&#39;s.=C2=A0 So now=
 I can go get them again for a small fee.=C2=A0 CA needs the money, so this=
 is a good way for them to raise money without raising taxes.=C2=A0<div><di=
v class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Rohan Marr <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-wo=
rd">Apologies if this has already been discussed, but I found this today an=
d as an owner of an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California car.=
 I have mixed feelings on this one. Firstly it is worth reading up on the a=
nnouncement and links:<div><br></div><div>Classic California License Plates=
 to Hit Streets this Summer:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/=
dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41" target=3D"_blank">https://www.dm=
v.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41</a></div><div>CA =
DMV:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/=
index" target=3D"_blank">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacypla=
tes/index</a></div><div><br></div><div>So why the mixed feelings, well orig=
inal black plates had some value and meaning - the car was an original Cali=
fornia car. Unfortunately my plates have really deteriorated, and after a f=
ew steep driveways (you know how low our cars are) I have bent them in half=
 one by one until they broke in half. I only ever had one plate on the rear=
 and swapped it =E2=80=A6 the current one is hanging on by a thread. So I w=
as looking to see if someone would reproduce them and I remember a link to =
someone who =E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=9D remade them published on this li=
st a few years ago. These new ones will reportedly use the same dye press t=
ooling as the originals out of Folsom Prison (not sure where I read that), =
but unlike the original these will have a modern reflective coating and mor=
e importantly be available for use on any vehicle, both old and new, or car=
, truck or motorcycles. I know how I feel about a Prius with black plates!<=
/div><div><br></div><div>So what I really want to do is replace my plates w=
ith the same number etc with an original look, or do I want to give up on t=
hat and bite the bullet for a vanity plate with the new black?</div><div><b=
r></div><div>What does everyone think of this?</div><div><br></div><div>Roh=
an (aka Aussie)</div><div><div style=3D"margin:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica=
">=E2=80=9956 Longbridge BN4</font>=C2=A0=E2=80=9CHellouise&quot;</div></di=
v></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 03:11:03 +0000 (UTC)

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My BJ8 has the original yellow-on-black plates; DMV ain't said squat (they'=
d have to pry them from ...). Bought the car in '83. Wish our BN2 had black=
-on-yellow(?) plates; had to settle for vanity '1956 M'=20

You left too soon, Alan; that's also about the time we got the smog check w=
aived for pre-68 cars.=20

Bob=20

ps. Rohan, I've seen plate 'restorers;' IIRC there was one at the Pleasanto=
n car show a few years ago.=20

----- Original Message -----

I think it's fine, they made so many of us give up our black and blue plate=
s, only a handful of very stubborn enthusiasts have been able to keep their=
 original plates, I had to give them up on my BJ8 when my local DMV refused=
 to renew them in the 80's. So now I can go get them again for a small fee.=
 CA needs the money, so this is a good way for them to raise money without =
raising taxes.=20

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Rohan Marr < [email-masked] > wrote:=20

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but I found this today and as=
 an owner of an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California car. I h=
ave mixed feelings on this one. Firstly it is worth reading up on the annou=
ncement and links:=20

Classic California License Plates to Hit Streets this Summer: https://www.d=
mv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41=20
CA DMV: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index=20

So why the mixed feelings, well original black plates had some value and me=
aning - the car was an original California car. Unfortunately my plates hav=
e really deteriorated, and after a few steep driveways (you know how low ou=
r cars are) I have bent them in half one by one until they broke in half. I=
 only ever had one plate on the rear and swapped it =E2=80=A6 the current o=
ne is hanging on by a thread. So I was looking to see if someone would repr=
oduce them and I remember a link to someone who =E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=
=9D remade them published on this list a few years ago. These new ones will=
 reportedly use the same dye press tooling as the originals out of Folsom P=
rison (not sure where I read that), but unlike the original these will have=
 a modern reflective coating and more importantly be available for use on a=
ny vehicle, both old and new, or car, truck or motorcycles. I know how I fe=
el about a Prius with black plates!=20

So what I really want to do is replace my plates with the same number etc w=
ith an original look, or do I want to give up on that and bite the bullet f=
or a vanity plate with the new black?=20

What does everyone think of this?=20

Rohan (aka Aussie)=20
=E2=80=9956 Longbridge BN4 =E2=80=9CHellouise"=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>My BJ8 has the original yellow-on-black plates; DMV ain't said squ=
at (they'd have to pry them from ...).&nbsp; Bought the car in '83.&nbsp; W=
ish our BN2 had black-on-yellow(?) plates; had to settle for vanity '1956 M=
'<br></div><div><br></div><div>You left too soon, Alan; that's also about t=
he time we got the smog check waived for pre-68 cars.&nbsp; <br></div><div>=
<br></div><div>Bob<br></div><div><br></div><div>ps.&nbsp; Rohan, I've seen =
plate 'restorers;' IIRC there was one at the Pleasanton car show a few year=
s ago.<br></div><div><br id=3D"zwchr"></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><br><div style=
=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">I think it's fine, they made so many of us give up our black and=
 blue plates, only a handful of very stubborn enthusiasts have been able to=
 keep their original plates, I had to give them up on my BJ8 when my local =
DMV refused to renew them in the 80's.&nbsp; So now I can go get them again=
 for a small fee.&nbsp; CA needs the money, so this is a good way for them =
to raise money without raising taxes.&nbsp;<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Rohan Marr <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">roh=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
 style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Apologies if this has already been discusse=
d, but I found this today and as an owner of an original =E2=80=9Cblack pla=
ted=E2=80=9D California car. I have mixed feelings on this one. Firstly it =
is worth reading up on the announcement and links:<div><br></div><div>Class=
ic California License Plates to Hit Streets this Summer:&nbsp;<a href=3D"ht=
tps://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel=
15/2015_41</a><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>CA DMV:&nbsp;<a href=3D"h=
ttps://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index</a><br data-=
mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><div>So why the mixed feelings, well o=
riginal black plates had some value and meaning - the car was an original C=
alifornia car. Unfortunately my plates have really deteriorated, and after =
a few steep driveways (you know how low our cars are) I have bent them in h=
alf one by one until they broke in half. I only ever had one plate on the r=
ear and swapped it =E2=80=A6 the current one is hanging on by a thread. So =
I was looking to see if someone would reproduce them and I remember a link =
to someone who =E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=9D remade them published on this=
 list a few years ago. These new ones will reportedly use the same dye pres=
s tooling as the originals out of Folsom Prison (not sure where I read that=
), but unlike the original these will have a modern reflective coating and =
more importantly be available for use on any vehicle, both old and new, or =
car, truck or motorcycles. I know how I feel about a Prius with black plate=
s!</div><div><br></div><div>So what I really want to do is replace my plate=
s with the same number etc with an original look, or do I want to give up o=
n that and bite the bullet for a vanity plate with the new black?</div><div=
><br></div><div>What does everyone think of this?</div><div><br></div><div>=
Rohan (aka Aussie)</div><div><div style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-=
family: Helvetica;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" face=3D"Helv=
etica">=E2=80=9956 Longbridge BN4</span>&nbsp;=E2=80=9CHellouise"</div></di=
v></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>
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From: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:13:20 +0800

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Bob -

Keeping the plates was entirely at the discretion of the DMV people behind
the counter, and I lived in an area where they were just plain  asshats.
Unequal application of bureaucracy only gets worse as the bureaucracies get
bigger. Don't get me started on how completely screwed up the CA government
is, and no, more taxes isn't the solution.

Alan

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

> My BJ8 has the original yellow-on-black plates; DMV ain't said squat
> (they'd have to pry them from ...).  Bought the car in '83.  Wish our BN2
> had black-on-yellow(?) plates; had to settle for vanity '1956 M'
>
> You left too soon, Alan; that's also about the time we got the smog check
> waived for pre-68 cars.
>
> Bob
>
> ps.  Rohan, I've seen plate 'restorers;' IIRC there was one at the
> Pleasanton car show a few years ago.
>
> ------------------------------
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob -<div><br></div><div>Keeping the plates was entirely a=
t the discretion of the DMV people behind the counter, and I lived in an ar=
ea where they were just plain =C2=A0asshats.=C2=A0 Unequal application of b=
ureaucracy only gets worse as the bureaucracies get bigger. Don&#39;t get m=
e started on how completely screwed up the CA government is, and no, more t=
axes isn&#39;t the solution.</div><div><br></div><div>Alan<br><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 11:11 =
AM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;=
color:#000000"><div>My BJ8 has the original yellow-on-black plates; DMV ain=
&#39;t said squat (they&#39;d have to pry them from ...).=C2=A0 Bought the =
car in &#39;83.=C2=A0 Wish our BN2 had black-on-yellow(?) plates; had to se=
ttle for vanity &#39;1956 M&#39;<br></div><div><br></div><div>You left too =
soon, Alan; that&#39;s also about the time we got the smog check waived for=
 pre-68 cars.=C2=A0 <br></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888=
"><div><br></div><div>Bob<br></div></font></span><div><br></div><div>ps.=C2=
=A0 Rohan, I&#39;ve seen plate &#39;restorers;&#39; IIRC there was one at t=
he Pleasanton car show a few years ago.<br></div><div><br></div><hr><div><d=
iv class=3D"h5"><br><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:=
normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12pt"><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I think it&#39;s fine, they made so=
 many of us give up our black and blue plates, only a handful of very stubb=
orn enthusiasts have been able to keep their original plates, I had to give=
 them up on my BJ8 when my local DMV refused to renew them in the 80&#39;s.=
=C2=A0 So now I can go get them again for a small fee.=C2=A0 CA needs the m=
oney, so this is a good way for them to raise money without raising taxes.=
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I inherited my mom's car.  Misplaced the title. I live in Oregon. CA DMV
MADE ME pay a years back registration and fines before they would mail to
me. $860.00. Then kept threatening g me if I did not return the vanity
plates she bought. I also got a fine for not running the car through smog
control when car was in Oregon....did not pay it or send plates back. Yes
ass  hats

Mr. Ira Erbs

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<p dir=3D"ltr">I inherited my mom&#39;s car.=C2=A0 Misplaced the title. I l=
ive in Oregon. CA DMV MADE ME pay a years back registration and fines befor=
e they would mail to me. $860.00. Then kept threatening g me if I did not r=
eturn the vanity plates she bought. I also got a fine for not running the c=
ar through smog control when car was in Oregon....did not pay it or send pl=
ates back. Yes ass=C2=A0 hats</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jun 27, 2015 9:13 PM, &quot;Alan Seigrist&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Bob -<div><br></div><div>Keeping the plates was entirely at the discre=
tion of the DMV people behind the counter, and I lived in an area where the=
y were just plain =C2=A0asshats.=C2=A0 Unequal application of bureaucracy o=
nly gets worse as the bureaucracies get bigger. Don&#39;t get me started on=
 how completely screwed up the CA government is, and no, more taxes isn&#39=
;t the solution.</div><div><br></div><div>Alan<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Bob Spid=
ell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#00000=
0"><div>My BJ8 has the original yellow-on-black plates; DMV ain&#39;t said =
squat (they&#39;d have to pry them from ...).=C2=A0 Bought the car in &#39;=
83.=C2=A0 Wish our BN2 had black-on-yellow(?) plates; had to settle for van=
ity &#39;1956 M&#39;<br></div><div><br></div><div>You left too soon, Alan; =
that&#39;s also about the time we got the smog check waived for pre-68 cars=
.=C2=A0 <br></div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Bob<br>=
</div></font></span><div><br></div><div>ps.=C2=A0 Rohan, I&#39;ve seen plat=
e &#39;restorers;&#39; IIRC there was one at the Pleasanton car show a few =
years ago.<br></div><div><br></div><hr><div><div><br><div style=3D"color:#0=
00;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:He=
lvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I =
think it&#39;s fine, they made so many of us give up our black and blue pla=
tes, only a handful of very stubborn enthusiasts have been able to keep the=
ir original plates, I had to give them up on my BJ8 when my local DMV refus=
ed to renew them in the 80&#39;s.=C2=A0 So now I can go get them again for =
a small fee.=C2=A0 CA needs the money, so this is a good way for them to ra=
ise money without raising taxes.=C2=A0<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div>=
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Hi, I was told the yellow with black letters was original for cars thru
1959, maybe longer,  then it changer to black with yellow letters. On the
black plate the number 63 is embossed in the upper right corner. The blue
with yellow letters started in 1968. I think, because my 1967 BJ8 had those
because it was first sold in 1968. Aloha, Jim

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi, I was told the yellow with black letters was original =
for cars thru 1959, maybe longer, =C2=A0then it changer to black with yello=
w letters. On the black plate the number 63 is embossed in the upper right =
corner. The blue with yellow letters started in 1968. I think, because my 1=
967 BJ8 had those because it was first sold in 1968. Aloha, Jim=C2=A0</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 27, 2=
015 at 1:41 PM, Rohan Marr <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rohanmar=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Apologies i=
f this has already been discussed, but I found this today and as an owner o=
f an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California car. I have mixed f=
eelings on this one. Firstly it is worth reading up on the announcement and=
 links:<div><br></div><div>Classic California License Plates to Hit Streets=
 this Summer:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs=
/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41" target=3D"_blank">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal=
/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41</a></div><div>CA DMV:=C2=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index</a>=
</div><div><br></div><div>So why the mixed feelings, well original black pl=
ates had some value and meaning - the car was an original California car. U=
nfortunately my plates have really deteriorated, and after a few steep driv=
eways (you know how low our cars are) I have bent them in half one by one u=
ntil they broke in half. I only ever had one plate on the rear and swapped =
it =E2=80=A6 the current one is hanging on by a thread. So I was looking to=
 see if someone would reproduce them and I remember a link to someone who =
=E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=9D remade them published on this list a few yea=
rs ago. These new ones will reportedly use the same dye press tooling as th=
e originals out of Folsom Prison (not sure where I read that), but unlike t=
he original these will have a modern reflective coating and more importantl=
y be available for use on any vehicle, both old and new, or car, truck or m=
otorcycles. I know how I feel about a Prius with black plates!</div><div><b=
r></div><div>So what I really want to do is replace my plates with the same=
 number etc with an original look, or do I want to give up on that and bite=
 the bullet for a vanity plate with the new black?</div><div><br></div><div=
>What does everyone think of this?</div><div><br></div><div>Rohan (aka Auss=
ie)</div><div><div style=3D"margin:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica">=E2=80=995=
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I have a set of the 63 yellow and black plates. I live in Oregon and have a
Yom pacific wonderland plate

Mr. Ira Erbs
On Jun 28, 2015 1:49 PM, "Kimo Briske" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> with yellow letters started in 1968. I think, because my 1967 BJ8 had tho=
se
. I have mixed
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nt one is
ce
 remade them
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<p dir=3D"ltr">I have a set of the 63 yellow and black plates. I live in Or=
egon and have a Yom pacific wonderland plate</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jun 28, 2015 1:49 PM, &quot;Kimo Briske&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Hi, I was told the yellow with black letters was original for cars thru =
1959, maybe longer, =C2=A0then it changer to black with yellow letters. On =
the black plate the number 63 is embossed in the upper right corner. The bl=
ue with yellow letters started in 1968. I think, because my 1967 BJ8 had th=
ose because it was first sold in 1968. Aloha, Jim=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:41 PM=
, Rohan Marr <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Apologies if this has alr=
eady been discussed, but I found this today and as an owner of an original =
=E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California car. I have mixed feelings on thi=
s one. Firstly it is worth reading up on the announcement and links:<div><b=
r></div><div>Classic California License Plates to Hit Streets this Summer:=
=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/news=
rel15/2015_41" target=3D"_blank">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/p=
ubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41</a></div><div>CA DMV:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https:/=
/www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index</a></div><div><br>=
</div><div>So why the mixed feelings, well original black plates had some v=
alue and meaning - the car was an original California car. Unfortunately my=
 plates have really deteriorated, and after a few steep driveways (you know=
 how low our cars are) I have bent them in half one by one until they broke=
 in half. I only ever had one plate on the rear and swapped it =E2=80=A6 th=
e current one is hanging on by a thread. So I was looking to see if someone=
 would reproduce them and I remember a link to someone who =E2=80=9Cunoffic=
ially=E2=80=9D remade them published on this list a few years ago. These ne=
w ones will reportedly use the same dye press tooling as the originals out =
of Folsom Prison (not sure where I read that), but unlike the original thes=
e will have a modern reflective coating and more importantly be available f=
or use on any vehicle, both old and new, or car, truck or motorcycles. I kn=
ow how I feel about a Prius with black plates!</div><div><br></div><div>So =
what I really want to do is replace my plates with the same number etc with=
 an original look, or do I want to give up on that and bite the bullet for =
a vanity plate with the new black?</div><div><br></div><div>What does every=
one think of this?</div><div><br></div><div>Rohan (aka Aussie)</div><div><d=
iv style=3D"margin:0px"><font face=3D"Helvetica">=E2=80=9956 Longbridge BN4=
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In  Australia our Road Authority are on a money spinner they will issue
plates with any thing you want for an annual fee usually $260
 spiralling to 1/4 million +  for first issue Black & White (y1900 2
digit up) generally by auction & then charge a massive amount yearly
You can have your football club with logo anything as long as it is not
offensive  A knock shop with "MADAM" plates is obviously OK

Keith Taylor OZ
BN1
BN2

On 29 June 2015 at 07:08, I Erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I have a set of the 63 yellow and black plates. I live in Oregon and have
> a Yom pacific wonderland plate
>
> Mr. Ira Erbs
>> 1959, maybe longer,  then it changer to black with yellow letters. On th=
e
>> black plate the number 63 is embossed in the upper right corner. The blu=
e
>> with yellow letters started in 1968. I think, because my 1967 BJ8 had th=
ose
>>> Apologies if this has already been discussed, but I found this today an=
d
>>> as an owner of an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California ca=
r. I have mixed
>>> feelings on this one. Firstly it is worth reading up on the announcemen=
t
>>> So why the mixed feelings, well original black plates had some value an=
d
>>> meaning - the car was an original California car. Unfortunately my plat=
es
>>> have really deteriorated, and after a few steep driveways (you know how=
 low
>>> our cars are) I have bent them in half one by one until they broke in h=
alf.
>>> I only ever had one plate on the rear and swapped it =E2=80=A6 the curr=
ent one is
>>> hanging on by a thread. So I was looking to see if someone would reprod=
uce
>>> them and I remember a link to someone who =E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=
=9D remade them
>>> published on this list a few years ago. These new ones will reportedly =
use
>>> the same dye press tooling as the originals out of Folsom Prison (not s=
ure
>>> vehicle, both old and new, or car, truck or motorcycles. I know how I f=
eel
>>> So what I really want to do is replace my plates with the same number
>>> etc with an original look, or do I want to give up on that and bite the
>>> bullet for a vanity plate with the new black?
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>In=C2=A0 Australia our Road Authority are on a money =
spinner they will issue plates with any thing you want for an annual fee us=
ually $260</div><div>=C2=A0spiralling to 1/4 million +=C2=A0=C2=A0for first=
 issue Black &amp; White=C2=A0(y1900=C2=A02 digit=C2=A0up) generally=C2=A0b=
y auction &amp; then charge a massive amount yearly</div><div>You can have =
your football club with logo anything as long as it is not offensive=C2=A0 =
A knock shop with &quot;MADAM&quot; plates=C2=A0is obviously OK</div><div><=
br></div><div>Keith Taylor OZ</div><div>BN1</div><div>BN2</div></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 29 June 2015 at 07:0=
8, I Erbs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">I have a set of the 63 yellow and black plates. I =
live in Oregon and have a Yom pacific wonderland plate</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Jun 28, 2015 1:49 PM, =
&quot;Kimo Briske&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"></d=
iv></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px=
;border-left-style:solid"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi, I was=
 told the yellow with black letters was original for cars thru 1959, maybe =
longer, =C2=A0then it changer to black with yellow letters. On the black pl=
ate the number 63 is embossed in the upper right corner. The blue with yell=
ow letters started in 1968. I think, because my 1967 BJ8 had those because =
it was first sold in 1968. Aloha, Jim=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Rohan Marr=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:r=
gb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div style>A=
pologies if this has already been discussed, but I found this today and as =
an owner of an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California car. I ha=
ve mixed feelings on this one. Firstly it is worth reading up on the announ=
cement and links:<div><br></div><div>Classic California License Plates to H=
it Streets this Summer:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/d=
etail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41" target=3D"_blank">https://www.dmv.ca.=
gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41</a></div><div>CA DMV:=
=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/inde=
x" target=3D"_blank">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/=
index</a></div><div><br></div><div>So why the mixed feelings, well original=
 black plates had some value and meaning - the car was an original Californ=
ia car. Unfortunately my plates have really deteriorated, and after a few s=
teep driveways (you know how low our cars are) I have bent them in half one=
 by one until they broke in half. I only ever had one plate on the rear and=
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one who =E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=9D remade them published on this list a=
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the same number etc with an original look, or do I want to give up on that =
and bite the bullet for a vanity plate with the new black?</div><div><br></=
div><div>What does everyone think of this?</div><div><br></div><div>Rohan (=
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Hi, Rohan.  Given that your car is a =E2=80=9956, if it was originally =
registered in CA it would have had black on yellow plates.  The yellow =
on black plates replaced them in =E2=80=9963, if memory serves.   You =
can order year of manufacture plates from the DMV, though I needed to =
get a supervisor to help me as the clerk was unfamiliar with them (not =
surprising, given the low volume of requests they likely get). =20

=20

If you want to retain the black plates, I=E2=80=99d suggest contacting =
Darryl=E2=80=99s License Plate Restoration.  I=E2=80=99ve had good =
success with him.

=20

http://www.darrylsplates.com/

 =20

=20

Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Rohan =
Marr
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 4:42 PM
To: Austin Healey List
Subject: [Healeys] California Legacy License Plate program

=20

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but I found this today and =
as an owner of an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California =
car. I have mixed feelings on this one. Firstly it is worth reading up =
on the announcement and links:

=20

Classic California License Plates to Hit Streets this Summer: =
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_41

=20

So why the mixed feelings, well original black plates had some value and =
meaning - the car was an original California car. Unfortunately my =
plates have really deteriorated, and after a few steep driveways (you =
know how low our cars are) I have bent them in half one by one until =
they broke in half. I only ever had one plate on the rear and swapped it =
=E2=80=A6 the current one is hanging on by a thread. So I was looking to =
see if someone would reproduce them and I remember a link to someone who =
=E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=9D remade them published on this list a few =
years ago. These new ones will reportedly use the same dye press tooling =
as the originals out of Folsom Prison (not sure where I read that), but =
unlike the original these will have a modern reflective coating and more =
importantly be available for use on any vehicle, both old and new, or =
car, truck or motorcycles. I know how I feel about a Prius with black =
plates!

=20

So what I really want to do is replace my plates with the same number =
etc with an original look, or do I want to give up on that and bite the =
bullet for a vanity plate with the new black?

=20

=20

Rohan (aka Aussie)

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Hi, Rohan.=C2=A0 Given =
that your car is a =E2=80=9956, if it was originally registered in CA it =
would have had black on yellow plates.=C2=A0 The yellow on black plates =
replaced them in =E2=80=9963, if memory serves.=C2=A0 =C2=A0You can =
order year of manufacture plates from the DMV, though I needed to get a =
supervisor to help me as the clerk was unfamiliar with them (not =
surprising, given the low volume of requests they likely get).=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>If you want to retain =
the black plates, I=E2=80=99d suggest contacting Darryl=E2=80=99s =
License Plate Restoration.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve had good success with =
him.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'><a =
href=3D"http://www.darrylsplates.com/">http://www.darrylsplates.com/</a><=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Rohan Marr<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 27, 2015 4:42 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Austin Healey List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
California Legacy License Plate =
program<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Apologies if =
this has already been discussed, but I found this today and as an owner =
of an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D California car. I have =
mixed feelings on this one. Firstly it is worth reading up on the =
announcement and links:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Classic California License Plates to Hit Streets this =
Summer:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2=
015_41">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2=
015_41</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>CA DMV:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index">http=
s://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index</a><o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So why the mixed feelings, well original black plates =
had some value and meaning - the car was an original California car. =
Unfortunately my plates have really deteriorated, and after a few steep =
driveways (you know how low our cars are) I have bent them in half one =
by one until they broke in half. I only ever had one plate on the rear =
and swapped it =E2=80=A6 the current one is hanging on by a thread. So I =
was looking to see if someone would reproduce them and I remember a link =
to someone who =E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=9D remade them published on =
this list a few years ago. These new ones will reportedly use the same =
dye press tooling as the originals out of Folsom Prison (not sure where =
I read that), but unlike the original these will have a modern =
reflective coating and more importantly be available for use on any =
vehicle, both old and new, or car, truck or motorcycles. I know how I =
feel about a Prius with black plates!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So what I really want to do is replace my plates with =
the same number etc with an original look, or do I want to give up on =
that and bite the bullet for a vanity plate with the new =
black?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>What does everyone think of =
this?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rohan (aka Aussie)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>=E2=80=9956 Longbridge =
BN4</span>&nbsp;=E2=80=9CHellouise&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div>=
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We just had a set of plates restored the were if pretty bad shape. Had a =
guy in Livermore do them. He straighted them up and repaired and cracks =
them powdercoated them. Look great

    www.CAlicenseplates.com

Check them out real good job and about a 10 day turn around

David Nock
[email-masked]
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Bruce Steele=20
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:06 AM
To: 'Rohan Marr'=20
Cc: 'healeys'=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Legacy License Plate program

=20

=20

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=20

Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

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<DIV>We just had a set of plates restored the were if pretty bad shape. =
Had a=20
guy in Livermore do them. He straighted them up and repaired and cracks =
them=20
powdercoated them. Look great</DIV>
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<DIV>Check them out real good job and about a 10 day turn around</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Bruce Steele</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 29, 2015 7:06 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'Rohan Marr'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'healeys'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] California Legacy License Plate=20
program</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>Hi,=20
Rohan.&nbsp; Given that your car is a =E2=80=9956, if it was originally =
registered in CA=20
it would have had black on yellow plates.&nbsp; The yellow on black =
plates=20
replaced them in =E2=80=9963, if memory serves.&nbsp;&nbsp; You can =
order year of=20
manufacture plates from the DMV, though I needed to get a supervisor to =
help me=20
as the clerk was unfamiliar with them (not surprising, given the low =
volume of=20
requests they likely get).&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>If you=20
want to retain the black plates, I=E2=80=99d suggest contacting =
Darryl=E2=80=99s License Plate=20
Restoration.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve had good success with =
him.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><A=20
href=3D"http://www.darrylsplates.com/">http://www.darrylsplates.com/</A><=
o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>&nbsp;=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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MS",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Bruce=20
Steele<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Brea,=20
CA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>1960=20
BN7<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BORDER-TOP: #e1e1e1 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; =
BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; =
PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys=20
[mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Rohan=20
Marr<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 27, 2015 4:42 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Austin Healey=20
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Healeys] California Legacy License Plate=20
program<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Apologies if this has already been discussed, but I =
found=20
this today and as an owner of an original =E2=80=9Cblack plated=E2=80=9D =
California car. I have=20
mixed feelings on this one. Firstly it is worth reading up on the =
announcement=20
and links:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Classic California License Plates to Hit Streets =
this Summer:=20
<A=20
href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2=
015_41">https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2=
015_41</A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>CA DMV: <A=20
href=3D"https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index">http=
s://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/legacyplates/index</A><o:p></o:p></P=
></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>So why the mixed feelings, well original black =
plates had=20
some value and meaning - the car was an original California car. =
Unfortunately=20
my plates have really deteriorated, and after a few steep driveways (you =
know=20
how low our cars are) I have bent them in half one by one until they =
broke in=20
half. I only ever had one plate on the rear and swapped it =E2=80=A6 the =
current one is=20
hanging on by a thread. So I was looking to see if someone would =
reproduce them=20
and I remember a link to someone who =E2=80=9Cunofficially=E2=80=9D =
remade them published on=20
this list a few years ago. These new ones will reportedly use the same =
dye press=20
tooling as the originals out of Folsom Prison (not sure where I read =
that), but=20
unlike the original these will have a modern reflective coating and more =

importantly be available for use on any vehicle, both old and new, or =
car, truck=20
or motorcycles. I know how I feel about a Prius with black=20
plates!<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>So what I really want to do is replace my plates =
with the=20
same number etc with an original look, or do I want to give up on that =
and bite=20
the bullet for a vanity plate with the new black?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>What does everyone think of =
this?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Rohan (aka Aussie)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: =
"Helvetica",sans-serif'>=E2=80=9956=20
Longbridge BN4</SPAN> =
=E2=80=9CHellouise"<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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