Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door trim panels

From: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 02:15:11 +0000

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Stephen=2C
Yes the "U" shaped channel fits over the front edge of the door and should =
fit without trimming the edge. What is most important is that the holes for=
 the door handle and the window handle are properly centered with the squar=
e mechanism that protrudes. Same goes for the two holes at the top of your =
trim for the pull handle. If these all line up=2C and if is the key word he=
re=2C you are indeed lucky=2C then you can put your clips in the door panel=
 and gently line them up with the holes in the door and push them in place.=
 If the holes for the handles do not line up properly=2C you will have a fe=
w hours of work measuring and even moving this "U" shaped channel=2C new ho=
les=2C new rivets etc.
The fun never cease.............

Jean=20

Date: Wed=2C 17 Jun 2015 01:28:48 +0000
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door trim panels

I'm putting together the trim panels on my BJ8 doors=2C and I have a couple=
 of questions about the way they fit.I've got the clips and I can see where=
 they match up=2C but I had some squeezing down at the bottom front end whe=
n closing the door. I have new trim panels and I notice that the front edge=
 is a sort of U channel. Does this U channel wrap over the front edge of th=
e door? The vinyl wraps over the back of the panel which would make that im=
possible without trimming it back=2C but maybe that's what I should do?
I notice there are no places for clips on the front edge.When I took my old=
 panels off they were non-original=2C and had been screwed on=2C so I'm lea=
rning as I go.I've attached a photo of the edge I'm talking about=2C with t=
he vinyl pulled back a little.

Thanks=2C Stephen

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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>Stephen=2C<br>Yes the "U" shaped=
 channel fits over the front edge of the door and should fit without trimmi=
ng the edge. What is most important is that the holes for the door handle a=
nd the window handle are properly centered with the square mechanism that p=
rotrudes. Same goes for the two holes at the top of your trim for the pull =
handle. If these all line up=2C and if is the key word here=2C you are inde=
ed lucky=2C then you can put your clips in the door panel and gently line t=
hem up with the holes in the door and push them in place. If the holes for =
the handles do not line up properly=2C you will have a few hours of work me=
asuring and even moving this "U" shaped channel=2C new holes=2C new rivets =
etc.<br>The fun never cease.............<br><br>Jean <br><br><div><hr id=3D=
"stopSpelling">Date: Wed=2C 17 Jun 2015 01:28:48 +0000<br>From: s.hutchings=
@rogers.com<br>To: [email-masked]<br>Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door tr=
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cxyui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_6573" dir=3D"ltr">I've got the clips and I can=
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nt end when closing the door. I have new trim panels and I notice that the =
front edge is a sort of U channel. Does this U channel wrap over the front =
edge of the door? The vinyl wraps over the back of the panel which would ma=
ke that impossible without trimming it back=2C but maybe that's what I shou=
ld do?<br></div><div id=3D"ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_6681" dir=3D"ltr">=
I notice there are no places for clips on the front edge.</div><div id=3D"e=
cxyui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_6702" dir=3D"ltr">When I took my old panels of=
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:23:07 -0400

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Stephen, the door panel does hook over the front flange with the =
U-channel.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC USA

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Stephen Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:29 PM
To: Healeys List
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door trim panels

=20

I'm putting together the trim panels on my BJ8 doors, and I have a =
couple of questions about the way they fit.

I've got the clips and I can see where they match up, but I had some =
squeezing down at the bottom front end when closing the door. I have new =
trim panels and I notice that the front edge is a sort of U channel. =
Does this U channel wrap over the front edge of the door? The vinyl =
wraps over the back of the panel which would make that impossible =
without trimming it back, but maybe that's what I should do?

I notice there are no places for clips on the front edge.

When I took my old panels off they were non-original, and had been =
screwed on, so I'm learning as I go.

I've attached a photo of the edge I'm talking about, with the vinyl =
pulled back a little.

=20

Thanks, Stephen

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MS";color:#002060'>Stephen, the door panel does hook over the front =
flange with the U-channel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Stephen Hutchings<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:29 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Healeys List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] BJ8 Door trim =
panels<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_6523"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I'm putting =
together the trim panels on my BJ8 doors, and I have a couple of =
questions about the way they fit.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_6573"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I've got the =
clips and I can see where they match up, but I had some squeezing down =
at the bottom front end when closing the door. I have new trim panels =
and I notice that the front edge is a sort of U channel. Does this U =
channel wrap over the front edge of the door? The vinyl wraps over the =
back of the panel which would make that impossible without trimming it =
back, but maybe that's what I should do?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_6681"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I notice =
there are no places for clips on the front =
edge.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_6702"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>When I took =
my old panels off they were non-original, and had been screwed on, so =
I'm learning as I go.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_7798"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I've attached =
a photo of the edge I'm talking about, with the vinyl pulled back a =
little.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_7739"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
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:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_7799"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks, =
Stephen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>
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From: Michael <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:06:02 -0400

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Be sure to use the shortest screws possible to secure the pull handle to pr=
event their contacting the window.
It's a little distressing to have the glass disintegrate as you tighten tho=
se screws...particularly if the car owner is standing there.=F0=9F=91=80
Michael S
BN1 #174

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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Sent: =E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 10:23 p.m.
To: "'Healeys List'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door trim panels

Stephen, the door panel does hook over the front flange with the U-channel.
=20
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC USA
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Stephen =
Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:29 PM
To: Healeys List
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door trim panels
=20
I'm putting together the trim panels on my BJ8 doors, and I have a couple o=
f questions about the way they fit.
I've got the clips and I can see where they match up, but I had some squeez=
ing down at the bottom front end when closing the door. I have new trim pan=
els and I notice that the front edge is a sort of U channel. Does this U ch=
annel wrap over the front edge of the door? The vinyl wraps over the back o=
f the panel which would make that impossible without trimming it back, but =
maybe that's what I should do?
I notice there are no places for clips on the front edge.
When I took my old panels off they were non-original, and had been screwed =
on, so I'm learning as I go.
I've attached a photo of the edge I'm talking about, with the vinyl pulled =
back a little.
=20
Thanks, Stephen=

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size: 11pt;">Be sure to use the shortest screws possible to secure the pull=
 handle to prevent their contacting the window.<br>It's a little distressin=
g to have the glass disintegrate as you tighten those screws...particularly=
 if the car owner is standing there.=F0=9F=91=80<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</=
div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-ser=
if; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-f=
amily: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.com">BJ8Healeys</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-ser=
if; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-f=
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=8E2015 10:23 p.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif=
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y: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net">'Healeys List'</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=
=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Do=
or trim panels</span><br><br></div><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(0, 32, 96); font-family: "Comic Sans M=
S"; font-size: 11pt;'>Stephen, the door panel does hook over the front flan=
ge with the U-channel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D'color: rgb(0, 32, 96); font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 11pt=
;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color:=
 rgb(0, 32, 96); font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 11pt;'>Steve Byer=
s<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(0, =
32, 96); font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 11pt;'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(0, 32, 96);=
 font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 11pt;'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(0, 32, 96); font-f=
amily: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 11pt;'>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(0, 32, 96); fon=
t-family: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 11pt;'>Havelock, NC USA<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(0, 32, 96); font-f=
amily: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 11pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div>=
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t-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span st=
yle=3D'font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> Healeys [mail=
to:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Hutchings<br=
><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> Healeys List<br>=
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] BJ8 Door trim panels<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
/div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1434503543355_6523"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;">=
<span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif";'>I'm pu=
tting together the trim panels on my BJ8 doors, and I have a couple of ques=
tions about the way they fit.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1434503543355_6573"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white=
;"><span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif";'>I'v=
e got the clips and I can see where they match up, but I had some squeezing=
 down at the bottom front end when closing the door. I have new trim panels=
 and I notice that the front edge is a sort of U channel. Does this U chann=
el wrap over the front edge of the door? The vinyl wraps over the back of t=
he panel which would make that impossible without trimming it back, but may=
be that's what I should do?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_1_1434503543355_6681"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;"=
><span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif";'>I not=
ice there are no places for clips on the front edge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_6702"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Helvet=
ica","sans-serif";'>When I took my old panels off they were non-original, a=
nd had been screwed on, so I'm learning as I go.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_7798"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Helvetic=
a","sans-serif";'>I've attached a photo of the edge I'm talking about, with=
 the vinyl pulled back a little.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1434503543355_7739"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background: wh=
ite;"><span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif";'>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434503543355_779=
9"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D'color=
: black; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif";'>Thanks, Stephen<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div></div></div></body></html>=

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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:18:36 -0400

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The sheet metal screws that attach the door pull to the door have a =
tendency to pull out of the door over time with overzealous door =
slamming.  Once they pull out, the holes are enlarged.  It becomes =
difficult to find a screw of a large enough diameter to fit the enlarged =
hole that is not also long enough to scratch the glass.

=20

Both of my window glasses had the two parallel scratches made by the =
door pull screws.  The driver's glass shattered into my lap one time =
when I pulled the door shut.  After installing new glass, my solution to =
prevent the scratches was to file the screw holes in the doors into a =
square shape, and then to Mig-weld a square nut into each hole.  This =
allows using a machine screw to attach the door pull, which is less =
likely to pull out and also has a flat end instead of pointed.  It's =
easy to find a machine screw to attach the door pull that is also short =
enough not to scratch the glass.  After 8 years, the door pulls have not =
pulled out and there are no scratches on the glass.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

From: Michael [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:06 AM
To: BJ8Healeys; 'Healeys List'
Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 Door trim panels

=20

Be sure to use the shortest screws possible to secure the pull handle to =
prevent their contacting the window.
It's a little distressing to have the glass disintegrate as you tighten =
those screws...particularly if the car owner is standing =
there.=F0=9F=91=80
Michael S
BN1 #174

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>The =
sheet metal screws that attach the door pull to the door have a tendency =
to pull out of the door over time with overzealous door slamming.=C2=A0 =
Once they pull out, the holes are enlarged.=C2=A0 It becomes difficult =
to find a screw of a large enough diameter to fit the enlarged hole that =
is not also long enough to scratch the glass.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Both of my window glasses had the two parallel =
scratches made by the door pull screws.=C2=A0 The driver's glass =
shattered into my lap one time when I pulled the door shut.=C2=A0 After =
installing new glass, my solution to prevent the scratches was to file =
the screw holes in the doors into a square shape, and then to Mig-weld a =
square nut into each hole.=C2=A0 This allows using a machine screw to =
attach the door pull, which is less likely to pull out and also has a =
flat end instead of pointed.=C2=A0 It's easy to find a machine screw to =
attach the door pull that is also short enough not to scratch the =
glass.=C2=A0 After 8 years, the door pulls have not pulled out and there =
are no scratches on the glass.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC=C2=A0 =
USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
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Michael [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
June 17, 2015 8:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys; 'Healeys =
List'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] BJ8 Door trim =
panels<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Be sure to =
use the shortest screws possible to secure the pull handle to prevent =
their contacting the window.<br>It's a little distressing to have the =
glass disintegrate as you tighten those screws...particularly if the car =
owner is standing there.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&#128064;</=
span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>Michael=
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