Subject: Re: [Healeys] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons

From: I Erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 21:13:44 -0700

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Sounds like quite a dream . What really happened when you woke up?

Mr. Ira Erbs
On Jun 3, 2015 8:16 PM, "J. Armour" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Down =E2=80=93Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in 1966 a=
nd drove
> it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased another BN.4 and drov=
e
> it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that had been hammered
> around Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my lessonI purchased
> another Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour race=
s
> all fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. What is going on=
?
> Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair / retailer outlets ( and
> there are many about from the input I see on the list ) and pay the price
> they have learnt from experience to select the better product.
> On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark plugs i=
n
> the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the starter to check the
> valve clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU system started the
> engine with two cylinders pumping air and unburnt fuel
> When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by the not
> so well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks later t=
he
> car had been performing well but then would not start. It turned out the
> good old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs the
> before mentioned service station attendant had fitted!
>
> I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held together
> with a piece of electrial tape.  Good old reliable Joseph Lucas.
>
> Joe
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Sounds like quite a dream . What really happened when you wo=
ke up?</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jun 3, 2015 8:16 PM, &quot;J. Armour&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=
=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibr=
i,sans-serif"><div>Down =E2=80=93Under in the land of OZ I purchased my fir=
st BN.4 in 1966 and drove it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchas=
ed another BN.4 and drove it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car =
that had been hammered around Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my=
 lessonI purchased another Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Seb=
ring 12 hour races all fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped.=
 What is going on?=C2=A0 Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair /=
 retailer outlets ( and there are many about from the input I see on the li=
st ) and pay the price they have learnt from experience to select the bette=
r product.</div><div>On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only =
had 4 spark plugs in the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the star=
ter to check the valve clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU sys=
tem started the engine with two cylinders pumping air and unburnt fuel</div=
><div>When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by the =
not so well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks later=
 the car had been performing well but then would not start. It turned out t=
he good old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs th=
e before mentioned service station attendant had fitted!</div><div><br></di=
v><div>I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held togeth=
er with a piece of electrial tape.=C2=A0 Good old reliable Joseph Lucas.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Joe</div></div>
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From: "J. Armour" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 14:30:16 +1000

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I am still living the dream with support from Lucas
Thanks  Joe

From:  I Erbs <[email-masked]>
Date:  Thursday, 4 June 2015 2:13 PM
To:  J & L Armour <[email-masked]>
Cc:  Forum <[email-masked]>
Subject:  Re: [Healeys] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons

Mr. Ira Erbs

On Jun 3, 2015 8:16 PM, "J. Armour" <[email-masked]> wrote:
> Down =ADUnder in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in 1966 and drove=
 it
> every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased another BN.4 and drove i=
t
> every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that had been hammered arou=
nd
> Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my lessonI purchased another H=
ealey
> that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour races all fitted wi=
th
> Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. What is going on?  Maybe it is t=
ime
> to identify the reliable repair / retailer outlets ( and there are many a=
bout
> from the input I see on the list ) and pay the price they have learnt fro=
m
> experience to select the better product.
n the
> head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the starter to check the valve
> clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU system started the engin=
e
> with two cylinders pumping air and unburnt fuel
> When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by the not =
so
> well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks later the =
car
> had been performing well but then would not start. It turned out the good=
 old
> Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs the before
> mentioned service station attendant had fitted!
>=20
> I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held together wi=
th a
> piece of electrial tape.  Good old reliable Joseph Lucas.
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> Joe
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pace; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:=
 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>I am still living the dream =
with support from Lucas</div><div>Thanks &nbsp;Joe</div><div><br></div><span=
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yle=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span> I Erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gm=
ail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date:=
 </span> Thursday, 4 June 2015 2:13 PM<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:=
 </span> J &amp; L Armour &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">sebri=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> For=
um &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Healeys] Northern =
Hemisphere Lucas Demons<br></div><div><br></div><p dir=3D"ltr">Sounds like qui=
te a dream . What really happened when you woke up?</p><p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira =
Erbs</p><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jun 3, 2015 8:16 PM, "J. Armour" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break=
-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div>D=
own &#8211;Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in 1966 and dro=
ve it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased another BN.4 and drov=
e it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that had been hammered ar=
ound Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my lessonI purchased another=
 Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour races all fitt=
ed with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. What is going on?&nbsp; May=
be it is time to identify the reliable repair / retailer outlets ( and there=
 are many about from the input I see on the list ) and pay the price they ha=
ve learnt from experience to select the better product.</div><div>On another=
 occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark plugs in the head. I=
 was lazy and turned the engine on the starter to check the valve clearance =
and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU system started the engine with two cy=
linders pumping air and unburnt fuel</div><div>When I purchased the second B=
N.4 it had been freshly serviced by the not so well informed ex-owner workin=
g at a service station. Two weeks later the car had been performing well but=
 then would not start. It turned out the good old Lucas system had fried the=
 two stroke lawn mower spark plugs the before mentioned service station atte=
ndant had fitted!</div><div><br></div><div>I even drove a the 3000 home 90 k=
m with the rotor button held together with a piece of electrial tape.&nbsp; =
Good old reliable Joseph Lucas.</div><div><br></div><div>Joe</div></div><br>=
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 14:41:35 +0800

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What happened is he woke up, went to get his Lucas Fire Extinguisher and
let the smoke out of it.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:13 PM, I Erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> Down =E2=80=93Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in 1966 =
and drove
>> it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased another BN.4 and dro=
ve
>> another Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour rac=
es
>> all fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. What is going o=
n?
>> Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair / retailer outlets ( an=
d
>> there are many about from the input I see on the list ) and pay the pric=
e
>> On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark plugs
>> in the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the starter to check th=
e
>> valve clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU system started th=
e
>> so well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks later =
the
>> good old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs th=
e
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<div dir=3D"ltr">What happened is he woke up, went to get his Lucas Fire Ex=
tinguisher and let the smoke out of it.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:13 PM, I Erbs <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">eye=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p=
 dir=3D"ltr">Sounds like quite a dream . What really happened when you woke=
 up?</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Jun 3, 2015 8:16 PM, &=
quot;J. Armour&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">=
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div styl=
e=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calib=
ri,sans-serif"><div>Down =E2=80=93Under in the land of OZ I purchased my fi=
rst BN.4 in 1966 and drove it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purcha=
sed another BN.4 and drove it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car=
 that had been hammered around Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt m=
y lessonI purchased another Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Se=
bring 12 hour races all fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped=
. What is going on?=C2=A0 Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair =
/ retailer outlets ( and there are many about from the input I see on the l=
ist ) and pay the price they have learnt from experience to select the bett=
er product.</div><div>On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only=
 had 4 spark plugs in the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the sta=
rter to check the valve clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU sy=
stem started the engine with two cylinders pumping air and unburnt fuel</di=
v><div>When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by the=
 not so well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks late=
r the car had been performing well but then would not start. It turned out =
the good old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs t=
he before mentioned service station attendant had fitted!</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held toget=
her with a piece of electrial tape.=C2=A0 Good old reliable Joseph Lucas.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Joe</div></div>
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Most Lucas parts were of excellent quality. They rarely gave any 
trouble. In those days cars did only last for about 5 years or 
40.000miles. We are now 40-70 years on and most of the original stuff is 
still working, quite impressive. That some fail now after all those 
years because of wear cannot be attributed to lack of quality. Anyhow, 
most probably it is because of lacking use and/or maintainance that they 
fail. A drop of oil, cleaning and lubricating switches etc., most don't 
bother, until it stops working and breaks. Contacts in switches will 
corrode and if not used regularly they will built up resistance, than 
heat and burn out. Just a small bit of contact spray now and than will 
keep them in good nick. The big old Lucas relays are of excellent 
quality, but the same applies here. Used regularly and there is rarely 
any trouble. If not used regularly clean the contacts now and than using 
a piece of thin hard cardboard.
Where the car manufacturers went wrong was the wiring, they were 
skimping on that and the connectors and corrosion protection of those. 
And the lack of fuses but that was a universal problem.
These days new "Lucas" parts have nothing to do with good old Joseph's 
joint.
Kees Oudesluijs

J. Armour schreef op 4-6-2015 om 5:16:
> Down –Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in 1966 and 
> drove it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased another BN.4 
> and drove it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that had 
> been hammered around Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my 
> lessonI purchased another Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two 
> Sebring 12 hour races all fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never 
> stopped. What is going on?  Maybe it is time to identify the reliable 
> repair / retailer outlets ( and there are many about from the input I 
> see on the list ) and pay the price they have learnt from experience 
> to select the better product.
> On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark 
> plugs in the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the starter to 
> check the valve clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU 
> system started the engine with two cylinders pumping air and unburnt fuel
> When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by the 
> not so well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks 
> later the car had been performing well but then would not start. It 
> turned out the good old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn 
> mower spark plugs the before mentioned service station attendant had 
> fitted!
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Most Lucas parts were of excellent
      quality. They rarely gave any trouble. In those days cars did only
      last for about 5 years or 40.000miles. We are now 40-70 years on
      and most of the original stuff is still working, quite impressive.
      That some fail now after all those years because of wear cannot be
      attributed to lack of quality. Anyhow, most probably it is because
      of lacking use and/or maintainance that they fail. A drop of oil,
      cleaning and lubricating switches etc., most don't bother, until
      it stops working and breaks. Contacts in switches will corrode and
      if not used regularly they will built up resistance, than heat and
      burn out. Just a small bit of contact spray now and than will keep
      them in good nick. The big old Lucas relays are of excellent
      quality, but the same applies here. Used regularly and there is
      rarely any trouble. If not used regularly clean the contacts now
      and than using a piece of thin hard cardboard.<br>
      Where the car manufacturers went wrong was the wiring, they were
      skimping on that and the connectors and corrosion protection of
      those. And the lack of fuses but that was a universal problem.<br>
      These days new "Lucas" parts have nothing to do with good old
      Joseph's joint.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      J. Armour schreef op 4-6-2015 om 5:16:<br>
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      <div>Down –Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in
        1966 and drove it every day. Sold it for a home deposit,
        purchased another BN.4 and drove it every day.Then went crazy
        and purchased a car that had been hammered around Sebring for 12
        hours and not having learnt my lessonI purchased another Healey
        that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour races all
        fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. What is
        going on?  Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair /
        retailer outlets ( and there are many about from the input I see
        on the list ) and pay the price they have learnt from experience
        to select the better product.</div>
      <div>On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4
        spark plugs in the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the
        starter to check the valve clearance and bless my soul the old
        Lucas and SU system started the engine with two cylinders
        pumping air and unburnt fuel</div>
      <div>When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced
        by the not so well informed ex-owner working at a service
        station. Two weeks later the car had been performing well but
        then would not start. It turned out the good old Lucas system
        had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs the before
        mentioned service station attendant had fitted!</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held
        together with a piece of electrial tape.  Good old reliable
        Joseph Lucas.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Joe</div>
      <br>
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G'day

For once I must agree with Kees!

The original Lucas parts were built to a very high standard and rarely gave
any problems. Everyone laughs at the saying "Price of Darkness" but when was
the last time you actually cleaned the connectors, terminals or switches?

When I restored the BN3 I wanted to reuse the old wiring hardness as it is
unique. So after I removed it from the car it was stripped of all outside
covering, taped at strategic locations and then soaked for three days in a
mix of water and laundry powder. While soaking it was given the occasional
stir. All this removed the years of built up crud. Then I went through every
wire, terminal and connector with a cloth and mineral turpentine. Every
bullet connector was tested and if found wanting, removed and resoldered.
Only when I was happy with its cleanliness did I have it completely rebound
in the correct cotton. I did exactly the same with all the electrical
components. Clean, clean and more clean.

That was in the 1980s and have not had a single electrical problem since.
The secret to Lucas equipment (and any other brand) is cleanliness.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Oudesluys
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 5:39 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons

Most Lucas parts were of excellent quality. They rarely gave any trouble. In
those days cars did only last for about 5 years or 40.000miles. We are now
40-70 years on and most of the original stuff is still working, quite
impressive. That some fail now after all those years because of wear cannot
be attributed to lack of quality. Anyhow, most probably it is because of
lacking use and/or maintainance that they fail. A drop of oil, cleaning and
lubricating switches etc., most don't bother, until it stops working and
breaks. Contacts in switches will corrode and if not used regularly they
will built up resistance, than heat and burn out. Just a small bit of
contact spray now and than will keep them in good nick. The big old Lucas
relays are of excellent quality, but the same applies here. Used regularly
and there is rarely any trouble. If not used regularly clean the contacts
now and than using a piece of thin hard cardboard.
Where the car manufacturers went wrong was the wiring, they were skimping on
that and the connectors and corrosion protection of those. And the lack of
fuses but that was a universal problem.
These days new "Lucas" parts have nothing to do with good old Joseph's
joint.
Kees Oudesluijs

Down -Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first BN.4 in 1966 and drove it
every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased another BN.4 and drove it
every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that had been hammered around
Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my lessonI purchased another
Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour races all
fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. What is going on?
Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair / retailer outlets ( and
there are many about from the input I see on the list ) and pay the price
they have learnt from experience to select the better product.

On another occasion I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark plugs in
the head. I was lazy and turned the engine on the starter to check the valve
clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU system started the engine
with two cylinders pumping air and unburnt fuel

When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by the not so
well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks later the car
had been performing well but then would not start. It turned out the good
old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs the before
mentioned service station attendant had fitted!

I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held together with
a piece of electrial tape.  Good old reliable Joseph Lucas.

Joe

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Kees!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'>The original Lucas parts =
were built to a very high standard and rarely gave any problems. =
Everyone laughs at the saying &#8220;Price of Darkness&#8221; but when =
was the last time you actually cleaned the connectors, terminals or =
switches?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'>When I restored the BN3 I =
wanted to reuse the old wiring hardness as it is unique. So after I =
removed it from the car it was stripped of all outside covering, taped =
at strategic locations and then soaked for three days in a mix of water =
and laundry powder. While soaking it was given the occasional stir. All =
this removed the years of built up crud. Then I went through every wire, =
terminal and connector with a cloth and mineral turpentine. Every bullet =
connector was tested and if found wanting, removed and resoldered. Only =
when I was happy with its cleanliness did I have it completely rebound =
in the correct cotton. I did exactly the same with all the electrical =
components. Clean, clean and more clean.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'>That was in the 1980s and =
have not had a single electrical problem since. The secret to Lucas =
equipment (and any other brand) is cleanliness.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'>Hoo =
Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'>Blue Mountains, =
Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><=
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ext'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Oudesluys<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 4 June 2015 5:39 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Most =
Lucas parts were of excellent quality. They rarely gave any trouble. In =
those days cars did only last for about 5 years or 40.000miles. We are =
now 40-70 years on and most of the original stuff is still working, =
quite impressive. That some fail now after all those years because of =
wear cannot be attributed to lack of quality. Anyhow, most probably it =
is because of lacking use and/or maintainance that they fail. A drop of =
oil, cleaning and lubricating switches etc., most don't bother, until it =
stops working and breaks. Contacts in switches will corrode and if not =
used regularly they will built up resistance, than heat and burn out. =
Just a small bit of contact spray now and than will keep them in good =
nick. The big old Lucas relays are of excellent quality, but the same =
applies here. Used regularly and there is rarely any trouble. If not =
used regularly clean the contacts now and than using a piece of thin =
hard cardboard.<br>Where the car manufacturers went wrong was the =
wiring, they were skimping on that and the connectors and corrosion =
protection of those. And the lack of fuses but that was a universal =
problem.<br>These days new &quot;Lucas&quot; parts have nothing to do =
with good old Joseph's joint.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br><br><br>J. =
Armour schreef op 4-6-2015 om 5:16:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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purchased another BN.4 and drove it every day.Then went crazy and =
purchased a car that had been hammered around Sebring for 12 hours and =
not having learnt my lessonI purchased another Healey that did three =
LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour races all fitted with Lucas stuff =
and they have never stopped. What is going on? &nbsp;Maybe it is time to =
identify the reliable repair / retailer outlets ( and there are many =
about from the input I see on the list ) and pay the price they have =
learnt from experience to select the better =
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clearance and bless my soul the old Lucas and SU system started the =
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performing well but then would not start. It turned out the good old =
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even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button held together =
with a piece of electrial tape. &nbsp;Good old reliable Joseph =
Lucas.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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I agree, the original Lucas parts were of excellent quality. You can still
buy Lucas branded products but they are made by a company (or companies)
that have licensed the name.

Derek

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> G=E2=80=99day
> The original Lucas parts were built to a very high standard and rarely
> gave any problems. Everyone laughs at the saying =E2=80=9CPrice of Darkne=
ss=E2=80=9D but
> when was the last time you actually cleaned the connectors, terminals or
> switches?
>
>
>
> When I restored the BN3 I wanted to reuse the old wiring hardness as it i=
s
> covering, taped at strategic locations and then soaked for three days in =
a
> mix of water and laundry powder. While soaking it was given the occasiona=
l
> stir. All this removed the years of built up crud. Then I went through
> every wire, terminal and connector with a cloth and mineral turpentine.
> Every bullet connector was tested and if found wanting, removed and
> resoldered. Only when I was happy with its cleanliness did I have it
> completely rebound in the correct cotton. I did exactly the same with all
> the electrical components. Clean, clean and more clean.
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *
> Oudesluys
> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 June 2015 5:39 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons
>
>
>
> Most Lucas parts were of excellent quality. They rarely gave any trouble.
> In those days cars did only last for about 5 years or 40.000miles. We are
> now 40-70 years on and most of the original stuff is still working, quite
> impressive. That some fail now after all those years because of wear cann=
ot
> lacking use and/or maintainance that they fail. A drop of oil, cleaning a=
nd
> relays are of excellent quality, but the same applies here. Used regularl=
y
> Where the car manufacturers went wrong was the wiring, they were skimping
> on that and the connectors and corrosion protection of those. And the lac=
k
> of fuses but that was a universal problem.
nd drove
e
s
?
n
he
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesl=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I agree, the original Lucas parts were of excellent qualit=
y. You can still buy Lucas branded products but they are made by a company =
(or companies) that have licensed the name.<div><br></div><div style>Derek<=
/div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu=
, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.au</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D=
"white" lang=3D"EN-AU" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">G=E2=80=99day<u></=
u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">For once I must agree with K=
ees!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">The original Lucas =
parts were built to a very high standard and rarely gave any problems. Ever=
yone laughs at the saying =E2=80=9CPrice of Darkness=E2=80=9D but when was =
the last time you actually cleaned the connectors, terminals or switches?<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">When I restored the BN3 I=
 wanted to reuse the old wiring hardness as it is unique. So after I remove=
d it from the car it was stripped of all outside covering, taped at strateg=
ic locations and then soaked for three days in a mix of water and laundry p=
owder. While soaking it was given the occasional stir. All this removed the=
 years of built up crud. Then I went through every wire, terminal and conne=
ctor with a cloth and mineral turpentine. Every bullet connector was tested=
 and if found wanting, removed and resoldered. Only when I was happy with i=
ts cleanliness did I have it completely rebound in the correct cotton. I di=
d exactly the same with all the electrical components. Clean, clean and mor=
e clean.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">That was in the=
 1980s and have not had a single electrical problem since. The secret to Lu=
cas equipment (and any other brand) is cleanliness.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;color:windowtext">Hoo Roo<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:=
windowtext">Patrick Quinn<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">Blue Mountains, Australia<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"bord=
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=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Oudesluys<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 4=
 June 2015 5:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healey=
s] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><di=
v><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Most Lucas parts were of excellent quality. They rarely=
 gave any trouble. In those days cars did only last for about 5 years or 40=
.000miles. We are now 40-70 years on and most of the original stuff is stil=
l working, quite impressive. That some fail now after all those years becau=
se of wear cannot be attributed to lack of quality. Anyhow, most probably i=
t is because of lacking use and/or maintainance that they fail. A drop of o=
il, cleaning and lubricating switches etc., most don&#39;t bother, until it=
 stops working and breaks. Contacts in switches will corrode and if not use=
d regularly they will built up resistance, than heat and burn out. Just a s=
mall bit of contact spray now and than will keep them in good nick. The big=
 old Lucas relays are of excellent quality, but the same applies here. Used=
 regularly and there is rarely any trouble. If not used regularly clean the=
 contacts now and than using a piece of thin hard cardboard.<br>Where the c=
ar manufacturers went wrong was the wiring, they were skimping on that and =
the connectors and corrosion protection of those. And the lack of fuses but=
 that was a universal problem.<br>These days new &quot;Lucas&quot; parts ha=
ve nothing to do with good old Joseph&#39;s joint.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><b=
r><br><br><br>J. Armour schreef op 4-6-2015 om 5:16:<u></u><u></u></p></div=
><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Down =E2=80=93Under in the land of OZ I purchased my first B=
N.4 in 1966 and drove it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased a=
nother BN.4 and drove it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that=
 had been hammered around Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my les=
sonI purchased another Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring=
 12 hour races all fitted with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. Wha=
t is going on?=C2=A0 Maybe it is time to identify the reliable repair / ret=
ailer outlets ( and there are many about from the input I see on the list )=
 and pay the price they have learnt from experience to select the better pr=
oduct.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On another occasi=
on I was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark plugs in the head. I was l=
azy and turned the engine on the starter to check the valve clearance and b=
less my soul the old Lucas and SU system started the engine with two cylind=
ers pumping air and unburnt fuel<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">When I purchased the second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by t=
he not so well informed ex-owner working at a service station. Two weeks la=
ter the car had been performing well but then would not start. It turned ou=
t the good old Lucas system had fried the two stroke lawn mower spark plugs=
 the before mentioned service station attendant had fitted!<u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">I even drove a the 3000 home 90 km with the rotor button=
 held together with a piece of electrial tape.=C2=A0 Good old reliable Jose=
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And so am I.  I'm Joe's neighbour, 1200 miles to the East.

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

  _____  

From: J. Armour [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 4:30 p.m.
To: I Erbs
Cc: Forum
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Northern Hemisphere Lucas Demons

Thanks  Joe

Mr. Ira Erbs

Joe

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
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miles to the East.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</spa=
n></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
J. Armour [mailto:[email-masked]] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 4 June =
2015 4:30
p.m.<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> I Erbs<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Forum<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Healeys] =
Northern
Hemisphere Lucas Demons</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>I am still =
living the
dream with support from Lucas<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Thanks =
&nbsp;Joe<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bol=
d'><span
id=3D"OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION">From: </span></font></b><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>I
Erbs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></b>Thursday, 4 June =
2015 2:13
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To: </span></b>J &amp; L Armour =
&lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc: </span></b>Forum &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=

<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></b>Re: [Healeys] =
Northern
Hemisphere Lucas Demons<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

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style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Sounds like quite a dream . What really
happened when you woke up?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Mr. Ira =
Erbs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>On Jun 3, 2015 =
8:16 PM,
&quot;J. Armour&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Down =
&#8211;Under in
the <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on">land</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
 w:st=3D"on">OZ</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> I purchased my first BN.4 in =
1966 and
drove it every day. Sold it for a home deposit, purchased another BN.4 =
and
drove it every day.Then went crazy and purchased a car that had been =
hammered
around Sebring for 12 hours and not having learnt my lessonI purchased =
another
Healey that did three LeMans 24 hour and two Sebring 12 hour races all =
fitted
with Lucas stuff and they have never stopped. What is going on?&nbsp; =
Maybe it
is time to identify the reliable repair / retailer outlets ( and there =
are many
about from the input I see on the list ) and pay the price they have =
learnt
from experience to select the better =
product.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>On another =
occasion I
was tuning the BN.4 and it only had 4 spark plugs in the head. I was =
lazy and
turned the engine on the starter to check the valve clearance and bless =
my soul
the old Lucas and SU system started the engine with two cylinders =
pumping air
and unburnt fuel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>When I =
purchased the
second BN.4 it had been freshly serviced by the not so well informed =
ex-owner
working at a service station. Two weeks later the car had been =
performing well
but then would not start. It turned out the good old Lucas system had =
fried the
two stroke lawn mower spark plugs the before mentioned service station
attendant had fitted!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>I even drove a =
the 3000
home 90 km with the rotor button held together with a piece of electrial
tape.&nbsp; Good old reliable Joseph Lucas.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

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style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Joe<o:p></o:p><=
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