Subject: Re: [Healeys] Looking for ideas

From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:23:58 -0400

Michael,

Hole saw that pilots on the pin?  A series of (smaller) holes drilled in 
the bushing, adjacent to the pin? I'm thinking that if you can remove 
the outboard bushing, then you should be able to drive out the inboard 
bushing.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php

On 06/25/2015 05:42 PM, Michael wrote:
> I left the seized shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went
> off to TechnoStrip in the hope that they would come loose.
> They didn't so I've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to extract
> them without wreaking the mounts on the frame.
> Made a special puller, applied loss of heat, drilled right through each
> bush, grumbled a lot but they will not move despite being subjected to
> massive amount of force.
> Any ideas...damaging the mounts in the chassis makes for a very tedious
> repair.
> Michael S.
> BN1 #174
>
>
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....cut off pin flush, drill through it with successively larger drill =
bits until you can get a reciprocating saw blade in.

I just spent a week doing spring eye bushes on a Series 3 Landrover, so =
know the value of a reciprocating saw!

Cheers

Peter Linn
Brisbane Oz

From: Michael=20
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 7:42 AM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: [Healeys] Looking for ideas

I left the seized shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went =
off to TechnoStrip in the hope that they would come loose.
They didn't so I've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to extract =
them without wreaking the mounts on the frame.
Made a special puller, applied loss of heat, drilled right through each =
bush, grumbled a lot but they will not move despite being subjected to =
massive amount of force.
Any ideas...damaging the mounts in the chassis makes for a very tedious =
repair.
Michael S.
BN1 #174

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<DIV>....cut off pin flush, drill through it with successively larger =
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<DIV>I just spent a week doing spring eye bushes on a Series 3 =
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frame.<BR>Made a special puller, applied loss of heat, drilled right =
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each bush, grumbled a lot but they will not move despite being subjected =
to=20
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chassis makes=20
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From: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:29:40 +0800

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Michael -

:(.  now I feel unhappy!

Can you safely fit a slide hammer puller on the shackle pins without
stripping the threads?  Usually they work for me if all else fails...
Maybe even have a second pair of hands & try putting axial pressure on the
inside of the bolt with a spanner and two locked nuts while using the slide
hammer on the outside thread...

Alan

On Friday, June 26, 2015, Michael <[email-masked]
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:

> I left the seized shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went off
> to TechnoStrip in the hope that they would come loose.

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Michael -<div><br></div><div>:(. =C2=A0now I feel unhappy!</div><div><br></=
div><div>Can you safely=C2=A0fit a slide hammer puller on the shackle pins =
without stripping the threads?=C2=A0 Usually they work for me if all else f=
ails...=C2=A0 Maybe even have a second pair of hands &amp;=C2=A0try putting=
 axial pressure on the inside=C2=A0of the bolt with a spanner and two locke=
d nuts while using the slide hammer on the outside thread...</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Alan<br><br>On Friday, June 26, 2015, Michael &lt;<a href=3D"jav=
ascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;[email-masked]&#39;);" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=
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ing-left:1ex"><div><div><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:11pt">I left the seized shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it =
went off to TechnoStrip in the hope that they would come loose.<br>They did=
n&#39;t so I&#39;ve spent an inordinate amount of time trying to extract th=
em without wreaking the mounts on the frame.<br>Made a special puller, appl=
ied loss of heat, drilled right through each bush, grumbled a lot but they =
will not move despite being subjected to massive amount of force.<br>Any id=
eas...damaging the mounts in the chassis makes for a very tedious repair.<b=
r>Michael S.<br>BN1 #174<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div>

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:29:31 +0000

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Heat=2C heat and more heat.  Each time spraying it with WD 40 ( I buy the s=
tuff in gallon cans). When it's really hot the WD40 just instantly evaporat=
es or boils off=2C but at some point=2C I believe it starts to wick in.  So=
oner or later it will free up. In my experience=2C using a lot of force doe=
s a lot more damage than the heat.
Good luck.=20

To: [email-masked]
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu=2C 25 Jun 2015 17:42:51 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Looking for ideas

I left the seized shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went off t=
o TechnoStrip in the hope that they would come loose.
They didn't so I've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to extract th=
em without wreaking the mounts on the frame.
Made a special puller=2C applied loss of heat=2C drilled right through each=
 bush=2C grumbled a lot but they will not move despite being subjected to m=
assive amount of force.
Any ideas...damaging the mounts in the chassis makes for a very tedious rep=
air.
Michael S.
BN1 #174

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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>Heat=2C heat and more heat.&nbsp=
=3B Each time spraying it with WD 40 ( I buy the stuff in gallon cans). Whe=
n it's really hot the WD40 just instantly evaporates or boils off=2C but at=
 some point=2C I believe it starts to wick in.&nbsp=3B Sooner or later it w=
ill free up. In my experience=2C using a lot of force does a lot more damag=
e than the heat.<br>Good luck. <br><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">To: Hea=
[email-masked]<br>From: [email-masked]<br>Date: Thu=2C 25 Ju=
n 2015 17:42:51 -0400<br>Subject: [Healeys] Looking for ideas<br><br><div><=
div style=3D"font-family:Calibri=2Csans-serif=3Bfont-size:11pt=3B">I left t=
he seized shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went off to Techno=
Strip in the hope that they would come loose.<br>They didn't so I've spent =
an inordinate amount of time trying to extract them without wreaking the mo=
unts on the frame.<br>Made a special puller=2C applied loss of heat=2C dril=
led right through each bush=2C grumbled a lot but they will not move despit=
e being subjected to massive amount of force.<br>Any ideas...damaging the m=
ounts in the chassis makes for a very tedious repair.<br>Michael S.<br>BN1 =
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:38:33 +1000

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Hey Mike,
You've spent enough time on these suckers.=20
Fire up the angle grinder and cut the brackets off
Order from Kilmartin AH197 rear spring hanger bracket x2=20
Weld them on....
http://www.kas-kilmartin.com.au/AH197%20rear%20spring%20hanger%20brkt.JPG
Best
Chris

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Jun 2015, at 7:42 am, Michael <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> They didn't so I've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to extract t=
hem without wreaking the mounts on the frame.
> Made a special puller, applied loss of heat, drilled right through each bu=
sh, grumbled a lot but they will not move despite being subjected to massive=
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> Any ideas...damaging the mounts in the chassis makes for a very tedious re=
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: aut=
o;">Hey Mike,</div><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">You've spe=
nt enough time on these suckers.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-=
adjust: auto;">Fire up the angle grinder and cut the brackets off</div><div s=
tyle=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Order from Kilmartin AH197 rear spr=
ing hanger bracket x2&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: aut=
o;">Weld them on....</div><div><span style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto=
;"><a href=3D"http://www.kas-kilmartin.com.au/AH197%20rear%20spring%20hanger=
%20brkt.JPG">http://www.kas-kilmartin.com.au/AH197%20rear%20spring%20hanger%=
20brkt.JPG</a></span></div><div><span style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: aut=
o;">Best</span></div><div><span style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Ch=
ris<br></span><br><span style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Sent from m=
y iPhone</span></div><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br>On 2=
6 Jun 2015, at 7:42 am, Michael &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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e pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went off to TechnoStrip in the hope=
 that they would come loose.<br>They didn't so I've spent an inordinate amou=
nt of time trying to extract them without wreaking the mounts on the frame.<=
br>Made a special puller, applied loss of heat, drilled right through each b=
ush, grumbled a lot but they will not move despite being subjected to massiv=
e amount of force.<br>Any ideas...damaging the mounts in the chassis makes f=
or a very tedious repair.<br>Michael S.<br>BN1 #174<br></div></div></div></b=
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
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Thanks to all for the good ideas some I have already tried without
success....Looks like cutting and drilling is to be the order of the
day..unfortunately those pins are case hardened which won't make things
easier.
If all else fails new brackets..

Michael S
BN1 #174

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks to all for the good ideas some I h=
ave already tried without success....Looks like cutting and drilling is to =
be the order of the day..unfortunately those pins are case hardened which w=
on&#39;t make things easier.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">If all else fails ne=
w brackets..<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:sma=
ll">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Michael <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">michael.salter=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><di=
v><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I left the s=
eized shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went off to TechnoStri=
p in the hope that they would come loose.<br>They didn&#39;t so I&#39;ve sp=
ent an inordinate amount of time trying to extract them without wreaking th=
e mounts on the frame.<br>Made a special puller, applied loss of heat, dril=
led right through each bush, grumbled a lot but they will not move despite =
being subjected to massive amount of force.<br>Any ideas...damaging the mou=
nts in the chassis makes for a very tedious repair.<br>Michael S.<br>BN1 #1=
74<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br=
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From: Richard Ewald <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:26:29 -0700

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WD-40 is a really lousy penetrant.  There are several other products on
market that are worlds better.  Maltby or PB Blaster are both much better
products.
Read here
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-253390.html

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> Heat, heat and more heat.  Each time spraying it with WD 40 ( I buy the
> stuff in gallon cans). When it's really hot the WD40 just instantly
> evaporates or boils off, but at some point, I believe it starts to wick
> in.  Sooner or later it will free up. In my experience, using a lot of
> force does a lot more damage than the heat.
> Good luck.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">WD-40 is a really lousy penetrant.=C2=A0 There are several=
 other products on market that are worlds better.=C2=A0 Maltby or PB Blaste=
r are both much better products. =C2=A0<div>Read here=C2=A0<a href=3D"http:=
//boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-253390.html">http://boar=
ds.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-253390.html</a></div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 25, 2015=
 at 5:29 PM, richard mayor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mayorric=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span>=
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Heat, heat and more heat.=C2=A0 Each time spraying it=
 with WD 40 ( I buy the stuff in gallon cans). When it&#39;s really hot the=
 WD40 just instantly evaporates or boils off, but at some point, I believe =
it starts to wick in.=C2=A0 Sooner or later it will free up. In my experien=
ce, using a lot of force does a lot more damage than the heat.<br>Good luck=
. <br><br><div><hr>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:michael.salte=
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he mounts on the frame.<br>Made a special puller, applied loss of heat, dri=
lled right through each bush, grumbled a lot but they will not move despite=
 being subjected to massive amount of force.<br>Any ideas...damaging the mo=
unts in the chassis makes for a very tedious repair.<br>Michael S.<br>BN1 #=
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Micheal,

My short article on removing broken studs from Manifolds...

*Removing Broken Studs from Cast Iron Manifolds*

This is method that I use to remove broken bolts and studs from cast iron
exhaust manifolds. With a broken stud in a manifold, as long as I can get a
small pair of long nose locking pliers onto the screw, bolt or stud then
the rest is typically easy, if you are patient.

I heat *only* the exposed stud or bolt with a torch to *cherry red* and
then shock cool it with a wet rag, followed by some penetrating solution
like "Kroil" or "PB Blaster".  Then I carefully clamp the needle nose
locking pliers on the end of the exposed stud and GENTLY rock it back and
forth ever so slightly.  If you get any movement whatsoever back and forth
the rest will come, if you're patient.  Repeat the heating and shock
cooling process followed by the locking pliers as many times as it takes.
With patience and luck the broken stud will progressively unscrew a bit
farther with each application of heat and penetrating oil until it will
unscrew all the way.

I did this recently with a BJ8 Manifold where 7 of the 8 studs were frozen
and/or broken off.  Some of them had just =C2=BC=E2=80=9D of stud proud of =
the manifold.
All seven came out using this process.

This process may work on an aluminum manifold IF and ONLY IF you are
careful not to use too much heat near the aluminum.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Michael <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>
>> I left the seized shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went of=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Micheal,<br><br></div>My short article on removing br=
oken studs from Manifolds...<br><br>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b style>Removing Broken Studs
from Cast Iron Manifolds</b></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is method that I use to remove broken bolts and=
 studs
from cast iron exhaust manifolds. With a broken stud in a manifold, as long=
 as
I can get a small pair of long nose locking pliers onto the screw, bolt or =
stud
then the rest is typically easy, if you are patient.</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 </p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I heat <u>only</u> the exposed stud or bolt with a t=
orch to <u>cherry
red</u> and then shock cool it with a wet rag, followed by some penetrating
solution like &quot;Kroil&quot; or &quot;PB Blaster&quot;.=C2=A0 Then I car=
efully
clamp the needle nose locking pliers on the end of the exposed stud and GEN=
TLY
rock it back and forth ever so slightly.=C2=A0 If you get any movement
whatsoever back and forth the rest will come, if you&#39;re patient.=C2=A0 =
Repeat
the heating and shock cooling process followed by the locking pliers as man=
y
times as it takes.=C2=A0 With patience and luck the broken stud will progre=
ssively unscrew a bit farther with each application of heat and penetrating=
 oil until it will unscrew all the way.=C2=A0 <br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I did this recently with a BJ8 Manifold wh=
ere 7 of the
8 studs were frozen and/or broken off.<span style>=C2=A0
</span>Some of them had just =C2=BC=E2=80=9D of stud proud of the manifold.=
<span style>=C2=A0 </span>All seven came out using this process.</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This process may work on an aluminum manifold IF and=
 ONLY IF
you are careful not to use too much heat near the aluminum.=C2=A0</p>

<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri,=
 Jun 26, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Michael Salter <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font=
-size:small">Thanks to all for the good ideas some I have already tried wit=
hout success....Looks like cutting and drilling is to be the order of the d=
ay..unfortunately those pins are case hardened which won&#39;t make things =
easier.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">If all else fails new brackets..<br><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-s=
erif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span class=3D""><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Michael <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">michael.salter@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I left the seize=
d shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went off to TechnoStrip in=
 the hope that they would come loose.<br>They didn&#39;t so I&#39;ve spent =
an inordinate amount of time trying to extract them without wreaking the mo=
unts on the frame.<br>Made a special puller, applied loss of heat, drilled =
right through each bush, grumbled a lot but they will not move despite bein=
g subjected to massive amount of force.<br>Any ideas...damaging the mounts =
in the chassis makes for a very tedious repair.<br>Michael S.<br>BN1 #174<b=
r></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></span><sp=
an class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><i><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black">If you =
can&#39;t fix it with a hammer, you&#39;ve got an electrical problem.</span=
></font></i><br><br><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></di=
v>
</font></span></div>
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Fellow Healeyoids!  I wonder if you could weld a nut bolt combo to the =
shackle pin and use a slide hammer to pull it out whilst using heat and =
quenching with ice water or dry ice.

=20

Randy=20

60 BT7

63 BJ7

=20

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Curtis Arndt
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 12:39 PM
To: Michael Salter
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Looking for ideas

=20

Micheal,

Removing Broken Studs from Cast Iron Manifolds

=20

This is method that I use to remove broken bolts and studs from cast =
iron exhaust manifolds. With a broken stud in a manifold, as long as I =
can get a small pair of long nose locking pliers onto the screw, bolt or =
stud then the rest is typically easy, if you are patient.

 =20

I heat only the exposed stud or bolt with a torch to cherry red and then =
shock cool it with a wet rag, followed by some penetrating solution like =
"Kroil" or "PB Blaster".  Then I carefully clamp the needle nose locking =
pliers on the end of the exposed stud and GENTLY rock it back and forth =
ever so slightly.  If you get any movement whatsoever back and forth the =
rest will come, if you're patient.  Repeat the heating and shock cooling =
process followed by the locking pliers as many times as it takes.  With =
patience and luck the broken stud will progressively unscrew a bit =
farther with each application of heat and penetrating oil until it will =
unscrew all the way. =20

=20

I did this recently with a BJ8 Manifold where 7 of the 8 studs were =
frozen and/or broken off.  Some of them had just =C2=BC=E2=80=9D of stud =
proud of the manifold.  All seven came out using this process.

=20

This process may work on an aluminum manifold IF and ONLY IF you are =
careful not to use too much heat near the aluminum.=20

=20

=20

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Michael Salter <[email-masked] =

Thanks to all for the good ideas some I have already tried without =
success....Looks like cutting and drilling is to be the order of the =
day..unfortunately those pins are case hardened which won't make things =
easier.

Michael S

BN1 #174

=20

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Michael <[email-masked] =

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

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>Fellow Healeyoids!=C2=A0 I wonder if you could weld a nut bolt combo to =
the shackle pin and use a slide hammer to pull it out whilst using heat =
and quenching with ice water or dry ice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Curtis Arndt<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2015 12:39 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Salter<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Looking for =
ideas<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Micheal,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>My short article on =
removing broken studs from Manifolds...<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Removing =
Broken Studs from Cast Iron Manifolds</b><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This is =
method that I use to remove broken bolts and studs from cast iron =
exhaust manifolds. With a broken stud in a manifold, as long as I can =
get a small pair of long nose locking pliers onto the screw, bolt or =
stud then the rest is typically easy, if you are =
patient.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I heat =
<u>only</u> the exposed stud or bolt with a torch to <u>cherry red</u> =
and then shock cool it with a wet rag, followed by some penetrating =
solution like &quot;Kroil&quot; or &quot;PB Blaster&quot;.&nbsp; Then I =
carefully clamp the needle nose locking pliers on the end of the exposed =
stud and GENTLY rock it back and forth ever so slightly.&nbsp; If you =
get any movement whatsoever back and forth the rest will come, if you're =
patient.&nbsp; Repeat the heating and shock cooling process followed by =
the locking pliers as many times as it takes.&nbsp; With patience and =
luck the broken stud will progressively unscrew a bit farther with each =
application of heat and penetrating oil until it will unscrew all the =
way.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I did this =
recently with a BJ8 Manifold where 7 of the 8 studs were frozen and/or =
broken off.&nbsp; Some of them had just =C2=BC=E2=80=9D of stud proud of =
the manifold.&nbsp; All seven came out using this =
process.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This =
process may work on an aluminum manifold IF and ONLY IF you are careful =
not to use too much heat near the aluminum.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Fri, =
Jun 26, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Thanks to =
all for the good ideas some I have already tried without =
success....Looks like cutting and drilling is to be the order of the =
day..unfortunately those pins are case hardened which won't make things =
easier.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>If all else fails new brackets..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Michael =
S<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>BN1 =
#174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, =
Jun 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Michael &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I left the =
seized shackle pins in both sides of this BN1 when it went off to =
TechnoStrip in the hope that they would come loose.<br>They didn't so =
I've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to extract them without =
wreaking the mounts on the frame.<br>Made a special puller, applied loss =
of heat, drilled right through each bush, grumbled a lot but they will =
not move despite being subjected to massive amount of force.<br>Any =
ideas...damaging the mounts in the chassis makes for a very tedious =
repair.<br>Michael S.<br>BN1 =
#174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br clear=3Dall><br><span class=3Dhoenzb><span =
style=3D'color:#888888'>-- =
<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>If you can't fix it with a =
hammer, you've got an electrical =
problem.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></=
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If all else fails, Electric Discharge Machining (EDM) -
http://www.brokentap.com/services.html

Best of Luck,
Rick Neville

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<div dir=3D"ltr">If all else fails, Electric Discharge Machining (EDM) -=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"http://www.brokentap.com/services.html">http://www.brokentap.=
com/services.html</a><div><br></div><div>Best of Luck,</div><div>Rick Nevil=
le</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Michael Salter <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif=
;font-size:small">Thanks to all for the good ideas some I have already trie=
d without success....Looks like cutting and drilling is to be the order of =
the day..unfortunately those pins are case hardened which won&#39;t make th=
ings easier.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:com=
ic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">If all else fails new brackets..<br>=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br>=
</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Th=
u, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Michael <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div style=3D"=
font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I left the seized shackle pi=
ns in both sides of this BN1 when it went off to TechnoStrip in the hope th=
at they would come loose.<br>They didn&#39;t so I&#39;ve spent an inordinat=
e amount of time trying to extract them without wreaking the mounts on the =
frame.<br>Made a special puller, applied loss of heat, drilled right throug=
h each bush, grumbled a lot but they will not move despite being subjected =
to massive amount of force.<br>Any ideas...damaging the mounts in the chass=
is makes for a very tedious repair.<br>Michael S.<br>BN1 #174<span class=3D=
"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></div></div></div></bloc=
kquote></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=
=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><i><font si=
ze=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black">If you can&#39;t fix it with a hammer,=
 you&#39;ve got an electrical problem.</span></font></i><br><br><div></div>=
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