Subject: Re: [Healeys] excess oil consumption

From: Oudesluys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 08:36:06 +0200

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6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to bad for an old design British 
engine. It also depends how the rebuild was done.
The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking, are wear of 
bores/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank case 
breathing system.
Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first. Check for wear 
in the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot engine.
That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean anything, it 
depends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a rebuild a 
few years ago, a ring job was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????

Kees Oudesluijs

It is very unlikely that the air filters have something to do with the 
oil consumption. There is no vacuum to speak of created there, unless 
they are totally blocked or are absolutely tiny.

[email-masked] schreef op 8-7-2015 om 1:55:
> A friend ask me to post the following question about excess oil 
> consumption on this forum to see if anyone has any suggestions.
> I know the engine has been professionally rebuilt a few years ago & 
> the compression & leak down tests recently looked "normal". No oil leaks.
> Thanks,
> Gary Hodson
> I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the other day and in the 
> next couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis on my Healey to 
> try to identify why I have had so much oil consumption.  FYI, I just 
> emptied the 6^th quart of oil into the engine yesterday – and that is 
> over 4,000 miles.  It is better than before the recent ring job, but 
> nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.
> Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due to combustion of the oil 
> from the back air cleaner that is plumbed with the valve cover.  
> He thinks the air cleaner I have on it now is somehow creating a 
> vacuum pulling oil from the valve cover and injecting it back into the 
> piston and is actually burning the oil off very efficiently.  I still 
> don’t have any signs of leaks beneath the car nor any smoke from the 
> tailpipe.  Quite possibly the current Cooper air cleaners are too 
> small and are creating this vacuum.  The Cooper air cleaners replaced 
> some other chrome air cleaners the original owner had on the car – I 
> don’t know if it was original equipment.
> Will you do me a favor and see if anyone else had a similar issue with 
> oil consumption to identify a “solution” that worked for them?  Maybe 
> there are other thoughts that we should ask my mechanic to examine as 
> well.
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to
      bad for an old design British engine. It also depends how the
      rebuild was done.<br>
      The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking, are wear
      of bores/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank
      case breathing system.<br>
      Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first. Check for
      wear in the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot engine.
      <br>
      That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean anything,
      it depends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a
      rebuild a few years ago, a ring job was needed not so long
      ago!!!!!?????<br>
      <br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
       <br>
      It is very unlikely that the air filters have something to do with
      the oil consumption. There is no vacuum to speak of created there,
      unless they are totally blocked or are absolutely tiny. <br>
      <br>
      [email-masked] schreef op 8-7-2015 om 1:55:<br>
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      <div class="MsoNormal">A friend ask me to post the following
        question about excess oil consumption on this forum to see if
        anyone has any suggestions.</div>
      <div class="MsoNormal">I know the engine has been professionally
        rebuilt a few years ago &amp; the compression &amp; leak down
        tests recently looked "normal". No oil leaks. </div>
      <div class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</div>
      <div class="MsoNormal">Gary Hodson</div>
      <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
      <div class="MsoNormal">I had a brief conversation with my mechanic
        the other day and in the next couple of weeks he will do a
        complete diagnosis on my Healey to try to identify why I have
        had so much oil consumption.  FYI, I just emptied the 6<sup>th</sup>
        quart of oil into the engine yesterday – and that is over 4,000
        miles.  It is better than before the recent ring job, but
        nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.</div>
      <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
      <div class="MsoNormal">Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due
        to combustion of the oil from the back air cleaner that is
        plumbed with the valve cover.  He thinks the air cleaner I have
        on it now is somehow creating a vacuum pulling oil from
        the valve cover and injecting it back into the piston and is
        actually burning the oil off very efficiently.  I still don’t
        have any signs of leaks beneath the car nor any smoke from the
        tailpipe.  Quite possibly the current Cooper air cleaners are
        too small and are creating this vacuum.  The Cooper air cleaners
        replaced some other chrome air cleaners the original owner had
        on the car – I don’t know if it was original equipment.</div>
      <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
      <div class="MsoNormal">Will you do me a favor and see if anyone
        else had a similar issue with oil consumption to identify a
        “solution” that worked for them?  Maybe there are other thoughts
        that we should ask my mechanic to examine as well.</div>
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Unless the rocker shaft is worn, oil should just barely seep out around the
rockers. It would be really hard to get to the vent tube.  With a worn
rocker shaft, oil could squirt high enough to get into the tube, but I
think you'd see blue smoke.

If you're not seeing blue smoke, I think I'd be looking for leaks.

Keith

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:55 PM, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I know the engine has been professionally rebuilt a few years ago & the
> compression & leak down tests recently looked "normal". No oil leaks.
> Thanks,
> Gary Hodson
>
> I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the other day and in the next
> couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis on my Healey to try to
> identify why I have had so much oil consumption.  FYI, I just emptied the=
 6
> th quart of oil into the engine yesterday =E2=80=93 and that is over 4,00=
0
> miles.  It is better than before the recent ring job, but nonetheless, is
> not acceptable to me.
>
> Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due to combustion of the oil from
> the back air cleaner that is plumbed with the valve cover.  He thinks the
> air cleaner I have on it now is somehow creating a vacuum pulling oil fro=
m
> the valve cover and injecting it back into the piston and is actually
> burning the oil off very efficiently.  I still don=E2=80=99t have any sig=
ns of
> leaks beneath the car nor any smoke from the tailpipe.  Quite possibly th=
e
> current Cooper air cleaners are too small and are creating this vacuum.
> The Cooper air cleaners replaced some other chrome air cleaners the
> original owner had on the car =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t know if it was or=
iginal equipment.
>
> Will you do me a favor and see if anyone else had a similar issue with oi=
l
> consumption to identify a =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D that worked for them=
?  Maybe there are
> other thoughts that we should ask my mechanic to examine as well.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Unless the rocker shaft is worn, oil should just barely se=
ep out around the rockers. It would be really hard to get to the vent tube.=
=C2=A0 With a worn rocker shaft, oil could squirt high enough to get into t=
he tube, but I think you&#39;d see blue smoke.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>If =
you&#39;re not seeing blue smoke, I think I&#39;d be looking for leaks.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Keith</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:55 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color=3D"bl=
ack" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">
<div class=3D"MsoNormal">A friend ask me to post the following question abo=
ut excess oil consumption on this forum to see if anyone has any suggestion=
s.</div>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal">I know the engine has been professionally rebuilt =
a few years ago &amp; the compression &amp; leak down tests recently looked=
 &quot;normal&quot;. No oil leaks. </div>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</div>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary Hodson</div>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal">I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the ot=
her day and in the next couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis on =
my Healey to try to identify why I have had so much oil consumption.=C2=A0 =
FYI, I just emptied the 6<sup>th</sup> quart of oil into the engine yesterd=
ay =E2=80=93 and that is over 4,000 miles.=C2=A0 It is better than before t=
he recent ring job, but nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.</div>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal">Mechanic=C2=A0thinks the oil loss might be due to =
combustion of the oil from the back air cleaner that is plumbed with the va=
lve cover.=C2=A0 He=C2=A0thinks the air cleaner I have on it now is somehow=
 creating a vacuum pulling oil from the=C2=A0valve cover and injecting it b=
ack into the piston and is actually burning the oil off very efficiently.=
=C2=A0 I still don=E2=80=99t have any signs of leaks beneath the car nor an=
y smoke from the tailpipe.=C2=A0 Quite possibly the current Cooper air clea=
ners are too small and are creating this vacuum.=C2=A0 The Cooper air clean=
ers replaced some other chrome air cleaners the original owner had on the c=
ar =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t know if it was original equipment.</div>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div>

<div class=3D"MsoNormal">Will you do me a favor and see if anyone else had =
a similar issue with oil consumption to identify a =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=
=9D that worked for them?=C2=A0 Maybe there are other thoughts that we shou=
ld ask my mechanic to examine as well.</div>

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If there is oil in the rear air filter then your rocker assy is worn =
out. Warm up the engine, then remove the valve cover and start it up. =
Almost no oil should come out the top of the rockers. Yours probably =
will squirt a lot of oil out of the rear rockers. This will then be =
confined to the inside of the valve cover. Then the breather will suck =
the oil into the rear filter and your new engine will burn oil just like =
it did before the rebuild.

We see this all the time and have rebuilt rocker assys in stock

David Nock
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www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Keith Mott=20
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To: [email-masked]=20
Cc: [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] excess oil consumption

Unless the rocker shaft is worn, oil should just barely seep out around =
the rockers. It would be really hard to get to the vent tube.  With a =
worn rocker shaft, oil could squirt high enough to get into the tube, =
but I think you'd see blue smoke. =20

Keith

  A friend ask me to post the following question about excess oil =
consumption on this forum to see if anyone has any suggestions.
  I know the engine has been professionally rebuilt a few years ago & =
the compression & leak down tests recently looked "normal". No oil =
leaks.=20
  Thanks,
  Gary Hodson

  I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the other day and in the =
next couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis on my Healey to try =
to identify why I have had so much oil consumption.  FYI, I just emptied =
the 6th quart of oil into the engine yesterday =E2=80=93 and that is =
over 4,000 miles.  It is better than before the recent ring job, but =
nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.

  Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due to combustion of the oil =
from the back air cleaner that is plumbed with the valve cover.  He =
thinks the air cleaner I have on it now is somehow creating a vacuum =
pulling oil from the valve cover and injecting it back into the piston =
and is actually burning the oil off very efficiently.  I still =
don=E2=80=99t have any signs of leaks beneath the car nor any smoke from =
the tailpipe.  Quite possibly the current Cooper air cleaners are too =
small and are creating this vacuum.  The Cooper air cleaners replaced =
some other chrome air cleaners the original owner had on the car =
=E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t know if it was original equipment.

  Will you do me a favor and see if anyone else had a similar issue with =
oil consumption to identify a =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D that worked for =
them?  Maybe there are other thoughts that we should ask my mechanic to =
examine as well.

  [email-masked]

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cover. Then the breather will suck the oil into the rear filter and your =
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  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>I know the engine has been professionally =
rebuilt a few=20
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  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the =
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=E2=80=93 and that=20
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  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due to =
combustion=20
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creating a=20
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piston=20
  and is actually burning the oil off very efficiently.&nbsp; I still =
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  Quite possibly the current Cooper air cleaners are too small and are =
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From: Mitch Simmons <[email-masked]>
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If u have a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What are the negatives?=
 will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much vacuum and harm s=
eals gaskets etc. ??     Mitch. 66 bj8

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Oudesluys <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> 6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to bad for an old design British engi=
ne. It also depends how the rebuild was done.
> The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking, are wear of bore=
s/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank case breathing sys=
tem.
> Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first. Check for wear in t=
he valve guides. Check the compression with a hot engine.=20
> That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean anything, it depe=
nds who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a rebuild a few yea=
rs ago, a ring job was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????
>=20
> Kees Oudesluijs
> =20
> It is very unlikely that the air filters have something to do with the oil=
 consumption. There is no vacuum to speak of created there, unless they are t=
otally blocked or are absolutely tiny.=20
>=20
>> A friend ask me to post the following question about excess oil consumpti=
on on this forum to see if anyone has any suggestions.
>> I know the engine has been professionally rebuilt a few years ago & the c=
ompression & leak down tests recently looked "normal". No oil leaks.
>> Thanks,
>> Gary Hodson
>> =20
>> I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the other day and in the next=
 couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis on my Healey to try to iden=
tify why I have had so much oil consumption.  FYI, I just emptied the 6th qu=
art of oil into the engine yesterday =E2=80=93 and that is over 4,000 miles.=
  It is better than before the recent ring job, but nonetheless, is not acce=
ptable to me.
>> =20
>> Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due to combustion of the oil from t=
he back air cleaner that is plumbed with the valve cover.  He thinks the air=
 cleaner I have on it now is somehow creating a vacuum pulling oil from the v=
alve cover and injecting it back into the piston and is actually burning the=
 oil off very efficiently.  I still don=E2=80=99t have any signs of leaks be=
neath the car nor any smoke from the tailpipe.  Quite possibly the current C=
ooper air cleaners are too small and are creating this vacuum.  The Cooper a=
ir cleaners replaced some other chrome air cleaners the original owner had o=
n the car =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t know if it was original equipment.
>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>If u have a pcv installed as per the N=
ock s version. What are the negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Cou=
ld there be too much vacuum and harm seals gaskets etc. ?? &nbsp; &nbsp; Mit=
ch. 66 bj8<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:36 A=
M, Oudesluys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">coudesluijs@chello=
.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to
      bad for an old design British engine. It also depends how the
      rebuild was done.<br>
      The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking, are wear
      of bores/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank
      case breathing system.<br>
      Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first. Check for
      wear in the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot engine.
      <br>
      That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean anything,
      it depends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a
      rebuild a few years ago, a ring job was needed not so long
      ago!!!!!?????<br>
      <br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      &nbsp;<br>
      It is very unlikely that the air filters have something to do with
      the oil consumption. There is no vacuum to speak of created there,
      unless they are totally blocked or are absolutely tiny. <br>
      <br>
      ^<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> schree=
f op 8-7-2015 om 1:55:<br>
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ype=3D"cite">
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8">
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">A friend ask me to post the following
        question about excess oil consumption on this forum to see if
        anyone has any suggestions.</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">I know the engine has been professionally
        rebuilt a few years ago &amp; the compression &amp; leak down
        tests recently looked "normal". No oil leaks. </div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary Hodson</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">I had a brief conversation with my mechanic
        the other day and in the next couple of weeks he will do a
        complete diagnosis on my Healey to try to identify why I have
        had so much oil consumption.&nbsp; FYI, I just emptied the 6<sup>th<=
/sup>
        quart of oil into the engine yesterday =E2=80=93 and that is over 4,=
000
        miles.&nbsp; It is better than before the recent ring job, but
        nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">Mechanic&nbsp;thinks the oil loss might be du=
e
        to combustion of the oil from the back air cleaner that is
        plumbed with the valve cover.&nbsp; He&nbsp;thinks the air cleaner I=
 have
        on it now is somehow creating a vacuum pulling oil from
        the&nbsp;valve cover and injecting it back into the piston and is
        actually burning the oil off very efficiently.&nbsp; I still don=E2=80=
=99t
        have any signs of leaks beneath the car nor any smoke from the
        tailpipe.&nbsp; Quite possibly the current Cooper air cleaners are
        too small and are creating this vacuum.&nbsp; The Cooper air cleaner=
s
        replaced some other chrome air cleaners the original owner had
        on the car =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t know if it was original equipme=
nt.</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">Will you do me a favor and see if anyone
        else had a similar issue with oil consumption to identify a
        =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D that worked for them?&nbsp; Maybe there a=
re other thoughts
        that we should ask my mechanic to examine as well.</div>
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I have one and it stopped all oil leaks; seems to be perfectly fine

> On Jul 9, 2015, at 6:59 AM, Mitch Simmons <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> If u have a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What are the negative=
s? will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much vacuum and harm=
 seals gaskets etc. ??     Mitch. 66 bj8
>> 6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to bad for an old design British eng=
ine. It also depends how the rebuild was done.
>> The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking, are wear of bor=
es/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank case breathing sy=
stem.
>> Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first. Check for wear in=
 the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot engine.=20
>> That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean anything, it dep=
ends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a rebuild a few ye=
ars ago, a ring job was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????
>>=20
>> Kees Oudesluijs
>> =20
>> It is very unlikely that the air filters have something to do with the oi=
l consumption. There is no vacuum to speak of created there, unless they are=
 totally blocked or are absolutely tiny.=20
>>> A friend ask me to post the following question about excess oil consumpt=
ion on this forum to see if anyone has any suggestions.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Gary Hodson
>>> =20
>>> I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the other day and in the nex=
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ntify why I have had so much oil consumption.  FYI, I just emptied the 6th q=
uart of oil into the engine yesterday =E2=80=93 and that is over 4,000 miles=
.  It is better than before the recent ring job, but nonetheless, is not acc=
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s; seems to be perfectly fine<br><br><br></div><div><br>On Jul 9, 2015, at 6=
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ave a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What are the negatives? will i=
t suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much vacuum and harm seals ga=
skets etc. ?? &nbsp; &nbsp; Mitch. 66 bj8<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><d=
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You cannot create too much vacuum through the air filters. If the 
pressure in the crank case is to high or oil is directly sprayed onto 
the oil separator near the PVC valve oil mist may be delivered into the 
airfilter. But then there is something wrong with the engine: worn 
bores/pistons/rings or worn rockershaft bearings.

Kees Oudesluijs

Team.net schreef op 9-7-2015 om 13:22:
> On Jul 9, 2015, at 6:59 AM, Mitch Simmons <[email-masked] 
>
>> If u have a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What are the 
>> negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much 
>> vacuum and harm seals gaskets etc. ?? Mitch. 66 bj8
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Oudesluys <[email-masked] 
>>
>>> 6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to bad for an old design 
>>> British engine. It also depends how the rebuild was done.
>>> case breathing system.
>>> rebuild a few years ago, a ring job was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????
>>>
>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>
>>> unless they are totally blocked or are absolutely tiny.
>>>
>>> 8-7-2015 om 1:55:
>>>> I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the other day and in 
>>>> the next couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis on my 
>>>> Healey to try to identify why I have had so much oil consumption.  
>>>> FYI, I just emptied the 6^th quart of oil into the engine yesterday 
>>>> – and that is over 4,000 miles.  It is better than before the 
>>>> recent ring job, but nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.
>>>> vacuum pulling oil from the valve cover and injecting it back into 
>>>> the piston and is actually burning the oil off very efficiently.  I 
>>>> still don’t have any signs of leaks beneath the car nor any smoke 
>>>> from the tailpipe.  Quite possibly the current Cooper air cleaners 
>>>> are too small and are creating this vacuum.  The Cooper air 
>>>> cleaners replaced some other chrome air cleaners the original owner 
>>>> had on the car – I don’t know if it was original equipment.
>>>> Will you do me a favor and see if anyone else had a similar issue 
>>>> with oil consumption to identify a “solution” that worked for 
>>>> them?  Maybe there are other thoughts that we should ask my 
>>>> mechanic to examine as well.
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">You cannot create too much vacuum
      through the air filters. If the pressure in the crank case is to
      high or oil is directly sprayed onto the oil separator near the
      PVC valve oil mist may be delivered into the airfilter. But then
      there is something wrong with the engine: worn bores/pistons/rings
      or worn rockershaft bearings.<br>
      <br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Team.net schreef op 9-7-2015 om 13:22:<br>
    </div>
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      cite="mid:[email-masked]"
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      <div>I have one and it stopped all oil leaks; seems to be
        perfectly fine<br>
        <br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
        On Jul 9, 2015, at 6:59 AM, Mitch Simmons &lt;<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div>
          <div>If u have a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What
            are the negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Could
            there be too much vacuum and harm seals gaskets etc. ??    
            Mitch. 66 bj8<br>
            <br>
            Sent from my iPhone</div>
          <div><br>
            On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Oudesluys &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
            <br>
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          <blockquote type="cite">
            <div>
              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">6 quarts over 4000mls does
                not sound to bad for an old design British engine. It
                also depends how the rebuild was done.<br>
                The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from
                leaking, are wear of bores/pistons/rings, valve guide
                wear and blocked/dirty crank case breathing system.<br>
                Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first.
                Check for wear in the valve guides. Check the
                compression with a hot engine. <br>
                That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean
                anything, it depends who has done the job. It is also
                peculiar that after a rebuild a few years ago, a ring
                job was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????<br>
                <br>
                Kees Oudesluijs<br>
                 <br>
                It is very unlikely that the air filters have something
                to do with the oil consumption. There is no vacuum to
                speak of created there, unless they are totally blocked
                or are absolutely tiny. <br>
                <br>
                ^<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>
                schreef op 8-7-2015 om 1:55:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote
                cite="mid:[email-masked]"
                type="cite">
                <div class="MsoNormal">A friend ask me to post the
                  following question about excess oil consumption on
                  this forum to see if anyone has any suggestions.</div>
                <div class="MsoNormal">I know the engine has been
                  professionally rebuilt a few years ago &amp; the
                  compression &amp; leak down tests recently looked
                  "normal". No oil leaks. </div>
                <div class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</div>
                <div class="MsoNormal">Gary Hodson</div>
                <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
                <div class="MsoNormal">I had a brief conversation with
                  my mechanic the other day and in the next couple of
                  weeks he will do a complete diagnosis on my Healey to
                  try to identify why I have had so much oil
                  consumption.  FYI, I just emptied the 6<sup>th</sup>
                  quart of oil into the engine yesterday – and that is
                  over 4,000 miles.  It is better than before the recent
                  ring job, but nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.</div>
                <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
                <div class="MsoNormal">Mechanic thinks the oil loss
                  might be due to combustion of the oil from the back
                  air cleaner that is plumbed with the valve cover. 
                  He thinks the air cleaner I have on it now is somehow
                  creating a vacuum pulling oil from the valve cover and
                  injecting it back into the piston and is actually
                  burning the oil off very efficiently.  I still don’t
                  have any signs of leaks beneath the car nor any smoke
                  from the tailpipe.  Quite possibly the current Cooper
                  air cleaners are too small and are creating this
                  vacuum.  The Cooper air cleaners replaced some other
                  chrome air cleaners the original owner had on the car
                  – I don’t know if it was original equipment.</div>
                <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
                <div class="MsoNormal">Will you do me a favor and see if
                  anyone else had a similar issue with oil consumption
                  to identify a “solution” that worked for them?  Maybe
                  there are other thoughts that we should ask my
                  mechanic to examine as well.</div>
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I've had a PCV valve installed--the 'Nock Kit'--on my BJ8 for years; 
maybe 40K miles or more.  It reduced oil consumption from 1qt/1,500 
miles to 1qt/3,500 miles or so (highway miles, consumption is a bit more 
for around-town miles).  There is no downside that I know of; others 
have reported gunk on the rear intake valves.  I'm contemplating an 
engine rebuild; will find out then.

I think 6qts/4,000 miles is way too much for a freshly rebuilt engine.  
Your friend could remove the vacuum dashpots--the big dome on the 
carbs--and check for oil residue.  If the rear is worse than the front 
carb it would confirm oil is getting sucked into the rear carb.  Does he 
have any leakage around the valve cover?  That would indicate the 
crankcase is getting pressurized.  Is he dripping a lot of oil?  Is it 
leaking from the timing cover seal?

Bob

On 7/9/2015 3:59 AM, Mitch Simmons wrote:
>> depends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a 
>> om 1:55:
>>> emptied the 6^th quart of oil into the engine yesterday – and that 
>>> is over 4,000 miles.  It is better than before the recent ring job, 
>>> but nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.
>>> are too small and are creating this vacuum.  The Cooper air cleaners 
>>> replaced some other chrome air cleaners the original owner had on 
>>> the car – I don’t know if it was original equipment.
>>> with oil consumption to identify a “solution” that worked for them?  
>>> Maybe there are other thoughts that we should ask my mechanic to 
>>> examine as well.

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    I've had a PCV valve installed--the 'Nock Kit'--on my BJ8 for years;
    maybe 40K miles or more.  It reduced oil consumption from 1qt/1,500
    miles to 1qt/3,500 miles or so (highway miles, consumption is a bit
    more for around-town miles).  There is no downside that I know of;
    others have reported gunk on the rear intake valves.  I'm
    contemplating an engine rebuild; will find out then.<br>
    <br>
    I think 6qts/4,000 miles is way too much for a freshly rebuilt
    engine.  Your friend could remove the vacuum dashpots--the big dome
    on the carbs--and check for oil residue.  If the rear is worse than
    the front carb it would confirm oil is getting sucked into the rear
    carb.  Does he have any leakage around the valve cover?  That would
    indicate the crankcase is getting pressurized.  Is he dripping a lot
    of oil?  Is it leaking from the timing cover seal?<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/9/2015 3:59 AM, Mitch Simmons
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>If u have a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What are
        the negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be
        too much vacuum and harm seals gaskets etc. ??     Mitch. 66 bj8<br>
        <br>
        Sent from my iPhone</div>
      <div><br>
        On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Oudesluys &lt;<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">6 quarts over 4000mls does not
            sound to bad for an old design British engine. It also
            depends how the rebuild was done.<br>
            The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking,
            are wear of bores/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and
            blocked/dirty crank case breathing system.<br>
            Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first.
            Check for wear in the valve guides. Check the compression
            with a hot engine. <br>
            That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean
            anything, it depends who has done the job. It is also
            peculiar that after a rebuild a few years ago, a ring job
            was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????<br>
            <br>
            Kees Oudesluijs<br>
             <br>
            It is very unlikely that the air filters have something to
            do with the oil consumption. There is no vacuum to speak of
            created there, unless they are totally blocked or are
            absolutely tiny. <br>
            <br>
            ^<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>
            schreef op 8-7-2015 om 1:55:<br>
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            <div class="MsoNormal">A friend ask me to post the following
              question about excess oil consumption on this forum to see
              if anyone has any suggestions.</div>
            <div class="MsoNormal">I know the engine has been
              professionally rebuilt a few years ago &amp; the
              compression &amp; leak down tests recently looked
              "normal". No oil leaks. </div>
            <div class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</div>
            <div class="MsoNormal">Gary Hodson</div>
            <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
            <div class="MsoNormal">I had a brief conversation with my
              mechanic the other day and in the next couple of weeks he
              will do a complete diagnosis on my Healey to try to
              identify why I have had so much oil consumption.  FYI, I
              just emptied the 6<sup>th</sup> quart of oil into the
              engine yesterday – and that is over 4,000 miles.  It is
              better than before the recent ring job, but nonetheless,
              is not acceptable to me.</div>
            <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
            <div class="MsoNormal">Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be
              due to combustion of the oil from the back air cleaner
              that is plumbed with the valve cover.  He thinks the air
              cleaner I have on it now is somehow creating a vacuum
              pulling oil from the valve cover and injecting it back
              into the piston and is actually burning the oil off very
              efficiently.  I still don’t have any signs of leaks
              beneath the car nor any smoke from the tailpipe.  Quite
              possibly the current Cooper air cleaners are too small and
              are creating this vacuum.  The Cooper air cleaners
              replaced some other chrome air cleaners the original owner
              had on the car – I don’t know if it was original
              equipment.</div>
            <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
            <div class="MsoNormal">Will you do me a favor and see if
              anyone else had a similar issue with oil consumption to
              identify a “solution” that worked for them?  Maybe there
              are other thoughts that we should ask my mechanic to
              examine as well.</div>
            <div class="MsoNormal"> </div>
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If you install the PCV kit on a car that has a worn rocker assy and =
using lots of oil the PCV kit will make it worse.
Like I said earlier pull the rocker cover you will find that the =
rebuilder installed the worn out rocker assy. The oil will be squirting =
way to high and causing your problem.

The other way to check is just fell the bottom of the rear filter it =
will be soaked with oil.

One test you can do is remove the vent hose to the rear filter and see =
if the problem goes away.

The PCV kit will help stop oil loss due to seal leaks not a worn our =
rocker assy.

David Nock
[email-masked]
209 948 8767

From: Bob Spidell=20
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:47 AM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] excess oil consumption

I've had a PCV valve installed--the 'Nock Kit'--on my BJ8 for years; =
maybe 40K miles or more.  It reduced oil consumption from 1qt/1,500 =
miles to 1qt/3,500 miles or so (highway miles, consumption is a bit more =
for around-town miles).  There is no downside that I know of; others =
have reported gunk on the rear intake valves.  I'm contemplating an =
engine rebuild; will find out then.

I think 6qts/4,000 miles is way too much for a freshly rebuilt engine.  =
Your friend could remove the vacuum dashpots--the big dome on the =
carbs--and check for oil residue.  If the rear is worse than the front =
carb it would confirm oil is getting sucked into the rear carb.  Does he =
have any leakage around the valve cover?  That would indicate the =
crankcase is getting pressurized.  Is he dripping a lot of oil?  Is it =
leaking from the timing cover seal?

Bob

  If u have a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What are the =
negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much =
vacuum and harm seals gaskets etc. ??     Mitch. 66 bj8

  Sent from my iPhone

    6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to bad for an old design =
British engine. It also depends how the rebuild was done.
    The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking, are wear =
of bores/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank case =
breathing system.
    Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first. Check for =
wear in the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot engine.=20
    That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean anything, =
it depends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a =
rebuild a few years ago, a ring job was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????

    Kees Oudesluijs
    =20
    It is very unlikely that the air filters have something to do with =
the oil consumption. There is no vacuum to speak of created there, =
unless they are totally blocked or are absolutely tiny.=20

      A friend ask me to post the following question about excess oil =
consumption on this forum to see if anyone has any suggestions.
      I know the engine has been professionally rebuilt a few years ago =
& the compression & leak down tests recently looked "normal". No oil =
leaks.=20
      Thanks,
      Gary Hodson

      I had a brief conversation with my mechanic the other day and in =
the next couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis on my Healey to =
try to identify why I have had so much oil consumption.  FYI, I just =
emptied the 6th quart of oil into the engine yesterday =96 and that is =
over 4,000 miles.  It is better than before the recent ring job, but =
nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.

      Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due to combustion of the oil =
from the back air cleaner that is plumbed with the valve cover.  He =
thinks the air cleaner I have on it now is somehow creating a vacuum =
pulling oil from the valve cover and injecting it back into the piston =
and is actually burning the oil off very efficiently.  I still don=92t =
have any signs of leaks beneath the car nor any smoke from the tailpipe. =
 Quite possibly the current Cooper air cleaners are too small and are =
creating this vacuum.  The Cooper air cleaners replaced some other =
chrome air cleaners the original owner had on the car =96 I don=92t know =
if it was original equipment.

      Will you do me a favor and see if anyone else had a similar issue =
with oil consumption to identify a =93solution=94 that worked for them?  =
Maybe there are other thoughts that we should ask my mechanic to examine =
as well.

[email-masked]

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<DIV>If you install the PCV kit on a car that has a worn rocker assy and =
using=20
lots of oil the PCV kit will make it worse.</DIV>
<DIV>Like I said earlier pull the rocker cover you will find that the =
rebuilder=20
installed the worn out rocker assy. The oil will be squirting way to =
high and=20
causing your problem.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The other way to check is just fell the bottom of the rear filter =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>One test you can do is remove the vent hose to the rear filter and =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The PCV kit will help stop oil loss due to seal leaks not a worn =
our rocker=20
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:47 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] excess oil =
consumption</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>I've=20
had a PCV valve installed--the 'Nock Kit'--on my BJ8 for years; maybe =
40K miles=20
or more.&nbsp; It reduced oil consumption from 1qt/1,500 miles to =
1qt/3,500=20
miles or so (highway miles, consumption is a bit more for around-town=20
miles).&nbsp; There is no downside that I know of; others have reported =
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find out=20
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rebuilt=20
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on the=20
carbs--and check for oil residue.&nbsp; If the rear is worse than the =
front carb=20
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have=20
any leakage around the valve cover?&nbsp; That would indicate the =
crankcase is=20
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leaking from=20
the timing cover seal?<BR><BR>Bob<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>On 7/9/2015 3:59 AM, Mitch Simmons =
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  negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much =
vacuum=20
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are wear=20
    of bores/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank =
case=20
    breathing system.<BR>Check and clean the crankcase ventilation =
system first.=20
    Check for wear in the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot =
engine.=20
    <BR>That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean =
anything, it=20
    depends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a =
rebuild a few=20
    years ago, a ring job was needed not so long =
ago!!!!!?????<BR><BR>Kees=20
    Oudesluijs<BR>&nbsp;<BR>It is very unlikely that the air filters =
have=20
    something to do with the oil consumption. There is no vacuum to =
speak of=20
    created there, unless they are totally blocked or are absolutely =
tiny.=20
    <BR><BR>^<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
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om=20
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question about=20
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      <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>I know the engine has been professionally =
rebuilt a=20
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looked=20
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      <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,</DIV>
      <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>Gary Hodson</DIV>
      <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>I had a brief conversation with my mechanic =
the other=20
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diagnosis on my=20
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consumption.&nbsp;=20
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me.</DIV>
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to=20
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with the=20
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somehow=20
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it back=20
      into the piston and is actually burning the oil off very=20
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Should it be dry? I adjusted my valves and oil bubbled up, not squirted.
The rear flange on my valve cover was flat and the gasket was not glued
down. I had a lot of oil leaking out the back of the Cover. Need to get in
a replace the cover and right stuff the gasket to see if that helps. I have
maybe 60k miles over the last 40 years.

Mr. Ira Erbs
On Jul 9, 2015 6:24 PM, "David Nock" <[email-masked]> wrote:

>   If you install the PCV kit on a car that has a worn rocker assy and
> Like I said earlier pull the rocker cover you will find that the rebuilde=
r
> installed the worn out rocker assy. The oil will be squirting way to high
> and causing your problem.
>
> The other way to check is just fell the bottom of the rear filter it will
> be soaked with oil.
>
> One test you can do is remove the vent hose to the rear filter and see if
> the problem goes away.
>
> The PCV kit will help stop oil loss due to seal leaks not a worn our
> rocker assy.
>
>
> David Nock
> [email-masked]
> 209 948 8767
>  *From:* Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:47 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] excess oil consumption
>
> I've had a PCV valve installed--the 'Nock Kit'--on my BJ8 for years; mayb=
e
> 40K miles or more.  It reduced oil consumption from 1qt/1,500 miles to
> 1qt/3,500 miles or so (highway miles, consumption is a bit more for
> around-town miles).  There is no downside that I know of; others have
> reported gunk on the rear intake valves.  I'm contemplating an engine
> rebuild; will find out then.
>
> carbs--and check for oil residue.  If the rear is worse than the front ca=
rb
> it would confirm oil is getting sucked into the rear carb.  Does he have
> any leakage around the valve cover?  That would indicate the crankcase is
> getting pressurized.  Is he dripping a lot of oil?  Is it leaking from th=
e
> timing cover seal?
> negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much vacu=
um
> and harm seals gaskets etc. ??     Mitch. 66 bj8
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system first. Check for wear in
> the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot engine.
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> consumption. There is no vacuum to speak of created there, unless they ar=
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> totally blocked or are absolutely tiny.
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Should it be dry? I adjusted my valves and oil bubbled up, n=
ot squirted.=C2=A0 The rear flange on my valve cover was flat and the gaske=
t was not glued down. I had a lot of oil leaking out the back of the Cover.=
 Need to get in a replace the cover and right stuff the gasket to see if th=
at helps. I have maybe 60k miles over the last 40 years.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 9, 2015 6:24 PM, &quot;David Nock&quot; &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Century&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>If you install the PCV kit on a car that has a worn rocker assy and us=
ing=20
lots of oil the PCV kit will make it worse.</div>
<div>Like I said earlier pull the rocker cover you will find that the rebui=
lder=20
installed the worn out rocker assy. The oil will be squirting way to high a=
nd=20
causing your problem.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The other way to check is just fell the bottom of the rear filter it w=
ill=20
be soaked with oil.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>One test you can do is remove the vent hose to the rear filter and see=
 if=20
the problem goes away.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The PCV kit will help stop oil loss due to seal leaks not a worn our r=
ocker=20
assy.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Century&#39;;COLOR:#000000">D=
avid=20
Nock<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healey=
[email-masked]</a><br>209 948=20
8767<br><a href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com" target=3D"_blank">=
www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></div>
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i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
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<div>=C2=A0</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:bspidell=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">Bob Spidell</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:47 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] excess oil consumption</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">=
I&#39;ve=20
had a PCV valve installed--the &#39;Nock Kit&#39;--on my BJ8 for years; may=
be 40K miles=20
or more.=C2=A0 It reduced oil consumption from 1qt/1,500 miles to 1qt/3,500=
=20
miles or so (highway miles, consumption is a bit more for around-town=20
miles).=C2=A0 There is no downside that I know of; others have reported gun=
k on=20
the rear intake valves.=C2=A0 I&#39;m contemplating an engine rebuild; will=
 find out=20
then.<br><br>I think 6qts/4,000 miles is way too much for a freshly rebuilt=
=20
engine.=C2=A0 Your friend could remove the vacuum dashpots--the big dome on=
 the=20
carbs--and check for oil residue.=C2=A0 If the rear is worse than the front=
 carb=20
it would confirm oil is getting sucked into the rear carb.=C2=A0 Does he ha=
ve=20
any leakage around the valve cover?=C2=A0 That would indicate the crankcase=
 is=20
getting pressurized.=C2=A0 Is he dripping a lot of oil?=C2=A0 Is it leaking=
 from=20
the timing cover seal?<br><br>Bob<br><br>
<div>On 7/9/2015 3:59 AM, Mitch Simmons wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
  <div>If u have a pcv installed as per the Nock s version. What are the=20
  negatives? will it suck oil into the intake? Could there be too much vacu=
um=20
  and harm seals gaskets etc. ??=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mitch. 66=20
  bj8<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
  <div><br>On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Oudesluys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:coud=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r><br></div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
    <div>
    <div>6 quarts over 4000mls does not sound to bad for=20
    an old design British engine. It also depends how the rebuild was=20
    done.<br>The main reasons for oil consumption, apart from leaking, are =
wear=20
    of bores/pistons/rings, valve guide wear and blocked/dirty crank case=
=20
    breathing system.<br>Check and clean the crankcase ventilation system f=
irst.=20
    Check for wear in the valve guides. Check the compression with a hot en=
gine.=20
    <br>That the engine was professionally rebuild does not mean anything, =
it=20
    depends who has done the job. It is also peculiar that after a rebuild =
a few=20
    years ago, a ring job was needed not so long ago!!!!!?????<br><br>Kees=
=20
    Oudesluijs<br>=C2=A0<br>It is very unlikely that the air filters have=
=20
    something to do with the oil consumption. There is no vacuum to speak o=
f=20
    created there, unless they are totally blocked or are absolutely tiny.=
=20
    <br><br>^<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">qwart=
[email-masked]</a> schreef op 8-7-2015 om=20
    1:55:<br></div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">A friend ask me to post the following questi=
on about=20
      excess oil consumption on this forum to see if anyone has any=20
      suggestions.</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">I know the engine has been professionally re=
built a=20
      few years ago &amp; the compression &amp; leak down tests recently lo=
oked=20
      &quot;normal&quot;. No oil leaks. </div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary Hodson</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">I had a brief conversation with my mechanic =
the other=20
      day and in the next couple of weeks he will do a complete diagnosis o=
n my=20
      Healey to try to identify why I have had so much oil consumption.=C2=
=A0=20
      FYI, I just emptied the 6<sup>th</sup> quart of oil into the engine=
=20
      yesterday =E2=80=93 and that is over 4,000 miles.=C2=A0 It is better =
than before=20
      the recent ring job, but nonetheless, is not acceptable to me.</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">Mechanic thinks the oil loss might be due to=
=20
      combustion of the oil from the back air cleaner that is plumbed with =
the=20
      valve cover.=C2=A0 He thinks the air cleaner I have on it now is some=
how=20
      creating a vacuum pulling oil from the valve cover and injecting it b=
ack=20
      into the piston and is actually burning the oil off very=20
      efficiently.=C2=A0 I still don=E2=80=99t have any signs of leaks bene=
ath the car=20
      nor any smoke from the tailpipe.=C2=A0 Quite possibly the current Coo=
per=20
      air cleaners are too small and are creating this vacuum.=C2=A0 The Co=
oper=20
      air cleaners replaced some other chrome air cleaners the original own=
er=20
      had on the car =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t know if it was original equi=
pment.</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">Will you do me a favor and see if anyone els=
e had a=20
      similar issue with oil consumption to identify a =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=
=80=9D that worked=20
      for them?=C2=A0 Maybe there are other thoughts that we should ask my=
=20
      mechanic to examine as well.</div>
      <div class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</div></blockquote></div></blockquote>=
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