Subject: [Healeys] #174 has a running problem

From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:32:56 -0400

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I have done the following;

STEPS TAKEN TO FIND RUNNING PROBLEM

This car has an original cap, original wires, original NA8 spark plugs,
original black coil, original fuel pump. I am determined not to change any
of these original parts unless I can confirm definitely that that item is
the source of the problems=E2=80=A6it a concours issue!!

After many short trips 10 =E2=80=93 15 miles etc... the engine started to r=
un very
badly after 35 odd miles of a longer test drive on a warm but not hot day
after travelling over a few hundred meters of rough road under construction
eventually stopping completely as I tried to climb a hill. Sounded to be
running on 2 cylinders at times. Backfiring through exhaust=E2=80=A6 no thr=
ottle
response.

Cranked but would not start..Appeared to have spark at the coil wire..

Affer cooling started out again=E2=80=A6after 20 odd miles stopped with the=
 same
symptoms=E2=80=A6 pulling choke seemed to make no difference.

Could not hear fuel  pump ticking but had fuel pressure at the front
carb=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6good spark at coil wire=E2=80=A6spark at plugs looked=
 thin =E2=80=A6Changed the
condenser and the rotor and it started reluctantly and ran well for about
15 miles then stopped again=E2=80=A6.same symptoms=E2=80=A6.changed rotor=
=E2=80=A6ran for 2 miles
same symptoms=E2=80=A6

Found =E2=80=9C3 cut=E2=80=9D washers under the carb float chamber struts w=
hich I think
could be sealing off the vent slots for the float chambers=E2=80=A6

Next day, today, I headed out for another extended drive and the car ran
perfectly on a similar day for 36 miles then repeated the problem after 36
miles and I just managed to nurse it home another 11 miles=E2=80=A6.it actu=
ally
died as I approached our driveway and I coasted in with the ignition turned
off.  Nothing would make it start.

Tested the coil 4.6 ohms with no short to ground. Took off the float
chamber lids and both were full to the correct level. The engine cranked
but would just not start..

After checking everything I could think of I believe that I have found the
problem but I don=E2=80=99t have time to do another 36 mile test before loa=
ding the
car to take to Enclave=E2=80=A6

What do you think I found?

Michael..

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*If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.*

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have done the following;<br>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">STEPS TAKEN TO FIND RUNNING PROBLEM</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This car has an original cap, original wires, origin=
al NA8
spark plugs, original black coil, original fuel pump. I am determined not t=
o
change any of these original parts unless I can confirm definitely that tha=
t
item is the source of the problems=E2=80=A6it a concours issue!!</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">After many short trips 10 =E2=80=93 15 miles etc... =
the engine
started to run very badly after 35 odd miles of a longer test drive on a wa=
rm
but not hot day after travelling over a few hundred meters of rough road un=
der construction
eventually stopping completely as I tried to climb a hill. Sounded to be
running on 2 cylinders at times. Backfiring through exhaust=E2=80=A6 no thr=
ottle
response.</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cranked but would not start..Appeared to have spark =
at the
coil wire..</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Affer cooling started out again=E2=80=A6after 20 odd=
 miles stopped
with the same symptoms=E2=80=A6 pulling choke seemed to make no difference.=
</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Could not hear fuel<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=
=C2=A0
</span>pump ticking but had fuel pressure at the front carb=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6good spark at coil
wire=E2=80=A6spark at plugs looked thin =E2=80=A6Changed the condenser and =
the rotor and it started
reluctantly and ran well for about 15 miles then stopped again=E2=80=A6.sam=
e
symptoms=E2=80=A6.changed rotor=E2=80=A6ran for 2 miles same symptoms=E2=80=
=A6</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Found =E2=80=9C3 cut=E2=80=9D washers under the carb=
 float chamber struts
which I think could be sealing off the vent slots for the float chambers=E2=
=80=A6</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Next day, today, I headed out for another extended d=
rive and
the car ran perfectly on a similar day for 36 miles then repeated the probl=
em
after 36 miles and I just managed to nurse it home another 11 miles=E2=80=
=A6.it
actually died as I approached our driveway and I coasted in with the igniti=
on
turned off.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=C2=A0 </span>Nothing would mak=
e it start.</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Tested the coil 4.6 ohms with no short to ground. To=
ok off
the float chamber lids and both were full to the correct level. The engine
cranked but would just not start..</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">After checking everything I could think of I believe=
 that I have
found the problem but I don=E2=80=99t have time to do another 36 mile test =
before
loading the car to take to Enclave=E2=80=A6</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What do you think I found?</p>

<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">Michael..<br clear=3D"all"></div><br>-- <br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><i><font =
size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black">If you can&#39;t fix it with a hamme=
r, you&#39;ve got an electrical problem.</span></font></i><br><br><div></di=
v><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div>
</div>

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From: Rich <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 22:04:25 +0000 (UTC)

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  =20

> I just this week finished troubleshooting a similar issue (mine stopped
> after 15 miles).=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Was the 1 year old Lucas Sport Coil.

> Rich=C2=A0 57BN4
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> *From:* Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>
> *To:* h
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] #174 has a running problem
>
> Dirt in the fuel pump filter/strainer?.
>
> Per
>
>
>
> Den 2015-07-16 kl. 20:32, skrev Michael Salter:
>
>
>=C2=A0 > What do you think I found?
>=C2=A0 >
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