Subject: Re: [Healeys] Head Lamps

From: "John Rowe" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 07:26:59 +1000

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Steven

I have run halogen on both my cars for 15 years or so, without relays, and
without any problems. I use 60/55 watt bulbs, but I have a modern
replacement wiring loom

Cheers

John Rowe Qld Australia

BN1 BT7

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of
[email-masked]
Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2015 6:26 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Head Lamps

Well after 62 years, one of my head lights burned out the low beam. Damn
Lucas stuff, you'd think they would make something a bit more reliable. But
enough of that. I checked the Moss catalog and they only offer halogen
replacements now. My question is how much more current do these units suck
up as I see they also offer a new headlight relay kit to help with the
entire operation. Is that kit really needed? Or can I find some non halogen
lights? Thanks in advance for the help with this as I always like to run
things by the list to get the best possible mix of advice.

Steven Kingsbury

BN1 #598 

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relays, and without any problems. I use 60/55 watt bulbs, but I have a =
modern replacement wiring loom<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 13 September 2015 6:26 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
Head Lamps<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>W=
ell after 62 years, one of my head lights burned out the low beam. Damn =
Lucas stuff, you'd think they would make something a bit more reliable. =
But enough of that. I checked the Moss catalog and they only offer =
halogen replacements now. My question is how much more current do these =
units suck up as I see they also offer a new headlight relay kit to help =
with the entire operation. Is that kit really needed? Or can I find some =
non halogen lights? Thanks in advance for the help with this as I always =
like to run things by the list to get the best possible&nbsp;mix of =
advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
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From: Michael <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 18:15:22 -0400

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Steven,  I'm with you...damn you Prince of Darkness !!!!!
IMHO the wires themselves are well up to the requirements but I would recom=
mend that you spend a few minutes checking all the connections.
I have found that if they are not in pretty good condition they have a tend=
ency to cause problems by over heating and damaging stuff.
Just pushing the bullets in and out of the sleeves and tweaking the screws =
on the switch works wonders..

Michael S
BN1 #174

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From: "John Rowe" <[email-masked]>
Sent: =E2=80=8E12/=E2=80=8E09/=E2=80=8E2015 6:01 p.m.
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>; "[email-masked]" <he=
[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Head Lamps

Steven
I have run halogen on both my cars for 15 years or so, without relays, and =
without any problems. I use 60/55 watt bulbs, but I have a modern replaceme=
nt wiring loom
Cheers
John Rowe Qld Australia
BN1 BT7
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of ATIGHTPR=
[email-masked]
Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2015 6:26 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Head Lamps
=20
Well after 62 years, one of my head lights burned out the low beam. Damn Lu=
cas stuff, you'd think they would make something a bit more reliable. But e=
nough of that. I checked the Moss catalog and they only offer halogen repla=
cements now. My question is how much more current do these units suck up as=
 I see they also offer a new headlight relay kit to help with the entire op=
eration. Is that kit really needed? Or can I find some non halogen lights? =
Thanks in advance for the help with this as I always like to run things by =
the list to get the best possible mix of advice.
Steven Kingsbury
BN1 #598 =

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size: 11pt;">Steven,&nbsp; I'm with you...damn you Prince of Darkness !!!!!=
<br>IMHO the wires themselves are well up to the requirements but I would r=
ecommend that you spend a few minutes checking all the connections.<br>I ha=
ve found that if they are not in pretty good condition they have a tendency=
 to cause problems by over heating and damaging stuff.<br>Just pushing the =
bullets in and out of the sleeves and tweaking the screws on the switch wor=
ks wonders..<br><br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><=
span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight=
: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-=
size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">John Rowe</a></span><b=
r><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-wei=
ght: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E12/=E2=80=8E09/=E2=80=8E2015 6:01 p.m.</span><br><=
span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight=
: bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-si=
ze: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></span><b=
r><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-wei=
ght: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;=
 font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Healeys] Head Lamps</span><br><br></div><div class=
=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, =
125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Steven<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125)=
; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>I have run halogen=
 on both my cars for 15 years or so, without relays, and without any proble=
ms. I use 60/55 watt bulbs, but I have a modern replacement wiring loom<o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, =
125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Cheers<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125)=
; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>John Rowe Qld Aust=
ralia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb=
(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>BN1 B=
T7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31=
, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'><o:p>&nb=
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al"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D'font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; fo=
nt-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D'font-family: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@a=
utox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunda=
y, 13 September 2015 6:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> [Healeys] Head Lamps<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
'color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>Well af=
ter 62 years, one of my head lights burned out the low beam. Damn Lucas stu=
ff, you'd think they would make something a bit more reliable. But enough o=
f that. I checked the Moss catalog and they only offer halogen replacements=
 now. My question is how much more current do these units suck up as I see =
they also offer a new headlight relay kit to help with the entire operation=
. Is that kit really needed? Or can I find some non halogen lights? Thanks =
in advance for the help with this as I always like to run things by the lis=
t to get the best possible&nbsp;mix of advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Arial=
","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>Steven Kingsbury<o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "A=
rial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>BN1 #598&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
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These are ridiculously overpriced, but you'll wish you had them if you 
ever do a complete wiring harness replacement:

http://www.britishwiring.com/Tool-Snap-Connector-Tool-p/ssc1.htm

On 9/12/2015 3:15 PM, Michael wrote:
> IMHO the wires themselves are well up to the requirements but I would 
> recommend that you spend a few minutes checking all the connections.
> I have found that if they are not in pretty good condition they have a 
> tendency to cause problems by over heating and damaging stuff.
> Just pushing the bullets in and out of the sleeves and tweaking the 
> screws on the switch works wonders..
>
> Michael S
> BN1 #174
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sent: ‎12/‎09/‎2015 6:01 p.m.
> I have run halogen on both my cars for 15 years or so, without relays, 
> and without any problems. I use 60/55 watt bulbs, but I have a modern 
> replacement wiring loom
>
> Cheers
>
> John Rowe Qld Australia
>
> BN1 BT7
>
>

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    These are ridiculously overpriced, but you'll wish you had them if
    you ever do a complete wiring harness replacement:<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.britishwiring.com/Tool-Snap-Connector-Tool-p/ssc1.htm">http://www.britishwiring.com/Tool-Snap-Connector-Tool-p/ssc1.htm</a><br>
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        <div style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Steven, 
          I'm with you...damn you Prince of Darkness !!!!!<br>
          IMHO the wires themselves are well up to the requirements but
          I would recommend that you spend a few minutes checking all
          the connections.<br>
          I have found that if they are not in pretty good condition
          they have a tendency to cause problems by over heating and
          damaging stuff.<br>
          Just pushing the bullets in and out of the sleeves and
          tweaking the screws on the switch works wonders..<br>
          <br>
          Michael S<br>
          BN1 #174</div>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">
        <hr><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:
          11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span
          style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email-masked]">John
            Rowe</a></span><br>
        <span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
          font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style="font-family:
          Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">‎12/‎09/‎2015 6:01 p.m.</span><br>
        <span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
          font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style="font-family:
          Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email-masked]"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></a>;
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></span><br>
        <span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
          font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family:
          Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Healeys] Head Lamps</span><br>
        <br>
      </div>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
            font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
            font-size: 11pt;">Steven<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
            font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
            font-size: 11pt;">I have run halogen on both my cars for 15
            years or so, without relays, and without any problems. I use
            60/55 watt bulbs, but I have a modern replacement wiring
            loom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
            font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
            font-size: 11pt;">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Derek Job <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 08:43:14 +0100

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Halogens are fine, no need to use relays, it just complicates matters
unnecessarily. Plus, have often do you drive your Healey in the dark?

Derek

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Halogens are fine, no need to use relays, it just complica=
tes matters unnecessarily. Plus, have often do you drive your Healey in the=
 dark?<div><br></div><div style=3D"">Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Bob S=
pidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    These are ridiculously overpriced, but you&#39;ll wish you had them if
    you ever do a complete wiring harness replacement:<br>
    <br>
    <a href=3D"http://www.britishwiring.com/Tool-Snap-Connector-Tool-p/ssc1=
.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://www.britishwiring.com/Tool-Snap-Connector-To=
ol-p/ssc1.htm</a><span class=3D""><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 9/12/2015 3:15 PM, Michael wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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        <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Steven=
,=C2=A0
          I&#39;m with you...damn you Prince of Darkness !!!!!<br>
          IMHO the wires themselves are well up to the requirements but
          I would recommend that you spend a few minutes checking all
          the connections.<br>
          I have found that if they are not in pretty good condition
          they have a tendency to cause problems by over heating and
          damaging stuff.<br>
          Just pushing the bullets in and out of the sleeves and
          tweaking the screws on the switch works wonders..<br>
          <br>
          Michael S<br>
          BN1 #174</div>
      </div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <hr><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-weight:bold">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;=
font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">J=
ohn
            Rowe</a></span><br>
        <span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-w=
eight:bold">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font=
-size:11pt">=E2=80=8E12/=E2=80=8E09/=E2=80=8E2015 6:01 p.m.</span><br>
        <span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-w=
eight:bold">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"></a><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>;
          <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">heale=
[email-masked]</a></span><br>
        <span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-w=
eight:bold">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:11pt">Re: [Healeys] Head Lamps</span><br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">Steven<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">I have run h=
alogen on both my cars for 15
            years or so, without relays, and without any problems. I use
            60/55 watt bulbs, but I have a modern replacement wiring
            loom<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">Cheers<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">John Rowe Ql=
d Australia<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">BN1 BT7<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
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ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=
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