Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing

From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:22:53 -0400

Michael,

Wow.  Did you check the stagger when you were done? :)

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php

On 09/29/2015 03:54 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
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> Michael S
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:18:35 +0000 (UTC)

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Ingenious, and very not PC, but, wouldn't it have been easier to true the wheels? 

You probably want to run a little under-inflated as well, to compensate for the width-wise scalloping of the tread. 

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From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]> 
To: "healeys" <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:54:33 PM 
Subject: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing 

Michael S 

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n't it have been easier to true the wheels?&nbsp; <br></div><div aria-label=
=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">You probably w=
ant to run a little under-inflated as well, to compensate for the width-wis=
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; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"=
Michael Salter" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"healeys" &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:=
54:33 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing<br>=
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family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-fam=
ily: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Not recommended for the h=
ome mechanic but very effective...<br><a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blog=
michael/" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmich=
ael/">http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/</a><br><div><br></div></div><div c=
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ize:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-si=
ze: small;">Michael S<br clear=3D"all"></div><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail=
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From: Charlie <[email-masked]>
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Michael, 

That does look a bit scary, but I'm glad it worked out for you. How do you go across the width of the tire with this? 

I don't know who gave the tech session at Enclave, but it may have been Ken Beck of K&T in Allentown, PA who are a lot closer to you than Hendrix in North Carolina. 
There is a youtube video of Ken showing the process of tire shaving at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdGMNl_xdW8. 

Thanks for showing your idea. 

Charlie 

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From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]> 
To: [email-masked] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:54:33 PM 
Subject: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing 

Michael S 

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00"><div>Michael,</div><div><br></div><div>That does look a bit scary, but =
I'm glad it worked out for you.&nbsp; How do you go across the width of the=
 tire with this?<br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't know who gave the tec=
h session at Enclave, but it may have been Ken Beck of K&amp;T in Allentown=
, PA who are a lot closer to you than Hendrix in North Carolina.<br></div><=
div>There is a youtube video of Ken showing the process of tire shaving at =
<a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhdGMNl_xdW8">https://www.youtu=
be.com/watch?v=3DhdGMNl_xdW8.</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for s=
howing your idea.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Charlie<br></div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000=
;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helv=
etica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Michael Salter" &lt;m=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent:=
 </b>Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:54:33 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Ne=
w Post on my Blog...tire truing<br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">Not recommended for the home mechanic but very effective...<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ne=
tbug.net/blogmichael/</a><br><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael =
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e-style=3D"font-size: small;" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black">If you=
 can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.</span></span=
></i><br><div><br></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div>=
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:34:19 -0400

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The problem with trying to true the old 48 spoke wheels is that the nipples
seize on the spokes after 60 odd years and it is virtually impossible to
free up the threads to save the spokes which are just not available for
these really early wheels .... also the actual rim itself is often a little
distorted and straightening that is very difficult and cannot be achieved
by simply adjusting the spokes.
I had heard of people deflating the tire and rotating it 90 degrees on the
rim then checking again so I gave that a try... There was no measurable
change although I tried it in all 4 quadrants on the worst wheel ... I
suspect that modern tires are made pretty accurately.
Regarding the "scalloping" I actually made 4 cuts on each tire and managed
to position the blade to cut the tread fairly much like the original
profile.. After a 10 mile run the tires look just like they did when
before the treatment.

Michael S
BN1 #174

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

> You probably want to run a little under-inflated as well, to compensate
> for the width-wise scalloping of the tread.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Michael Salter" <[email-masked]>
> *To: *"healeys" <[email-masked]>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:54:33 PM
> *Subject: *[Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing
>
> *If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The problem with trying to true the old 4=
8 spoke wheels is that the nipples seize on the spokes after 60 odd years a=
nd it is virtually impossible to free up the threads to save the spokes whi=
ch are just not available for these really early wheels .... also the actua=
l rim itself is often a little distorted and straightening that is very dif=
ficult and cannot be achieved by simply adjusting the spokes. <br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:small">I had heard of people deflating the tire and rotating it 90 d=
egrees on the rim then checking again so I gave that a try... There was no =
measurable change although I tried it in all 4 quadrants on the worst wheel=
 ... I suspect that modern tires are made pretty accurately. <br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font=
-size:small">Regarding the &quot;scalloping&quot; I actually made 4 cuts on=
 each tire and managed to position the blade to cut the tread fairly much l=
ike the original profile.. After a 10 mile run the tires look just like the=
y did when=C2=A0 before the treatment.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michae=
l S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Bob =
Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#0=
00000"><div>Ingenious, and very not PC, but, wouldn&#39;t it have been easi=
er to true the wheels?=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>You probably wan=
t to run a little under-inflated as well, to compensate for the width-wise =
scalloping of the tread.<br></div><div><br></div><hr><div style=3D"color:#0=
00;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:He=
lvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>From: </b>&quot;Michael Salter&=
quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mich=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;healeys&quot; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:54:33 PM<span class=
=3D""><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing<br><d=
iv><br></div></span><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small=
">Not recommended for the home mechanic but very effective...<br><a href=3D=
"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.netbug.ne=
t/blogmichael/</a><br><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br cl=
ear=3D"all"></div><br>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><i=
><span style=3D"font-size:small" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black">If =
you can&#39;t fix it with a hammer, you&#39;ve got an electrical problem.</=
span></span></i><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br><div><br></div></div></div></div=
><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>--=
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<i><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:black">If you can&#39;t fix it wit=
h a hammer, you&#39;ve got an electrical problem.</span></font></i><br><br>=
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True enough. Trying to true a wheel that is even mildly flattened or =
more often potato chipped seldom succeeds, leaves an unstable wheel =
because some spokes are loose and that is unsafe because some spokes are =
overstressed. I think MWS will shorten pre-existing high quality butted =
spokes as needed. So, if the rim is reasonably circular, perhaps the =
long-term solution is to relace the wheel with new spokes.

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:34 AM
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing

=20

The problem with trying to true the old 48 spoke wheels is that the =
nipples seize on the spokes after 60 odd years and it is virtually =
impossible to free up the threads to save the spokes which are just not =
available for these really early wheels .... also the actual rim itself =
is often a little distorted and straightening that is very difficult and =
cannot be achieved by simply adjusting the spokes.=20

I had heard of people deflating the tire and rotating it 90 degrees on =
the rim then checking again so I gave that a try... There was no =
measurable change although I tried it in all 4 quadrants on the worst =
wheel ... I suspect that modern tires are made pretty accurately.=20

Regarding the "scalloping" I actually made 4 cuts on each tire and =
managed to position the blade to cut the tread fairly much like the =
original profile.. After a 10 mile run the tires look just like they did =
when  before the treatment.

Michael S

BN1 #174

=20

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked] =

Ingenious, and very not PC, but, wouldn't it have been easier to true =
the wheels? =20

=20

You probably want to run a little under-inflated as well, to compensate =
for the width-wise scalloping of the tread.

=20

  _____ =20

From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked] =
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:54:33 PM
Subject: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing

=20

=20

Michael S

--=20

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>True enough. Trying to true a wheel that is even mildly flattened or =
more often potato chipped seldom succeeds, leaves an unstable wheel =
because some spokes are loose and that is unsafe because some spokes are =
overstressed. I think MWS will shorten pre-existing high quality butted =
spokes as needed. So, if the rim is reasonably circular, perhaps the =
long-term solution is to relace the wheel with new =
spokes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:34 =
AM<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Post =
on my Blog...tire truing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>The =
problem with trying to true the old 48 spoke wheels is that the nipples =
seize on the spokes after 60 odd years and it is virtually impossible to =
free up the threads to save the spokes which are just not available for =
these really early wheels .... also the actual rim itself is often a =
little distorted and straightening that is very difficult and cannot be =
achieved by simply adjusting the spokes. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I had heard of people deflating =
the tire and rotating it 90 degrees on the rim then checking again so I =
gave that a try... There was no measurable change although I tried it in =
all 4 quadrants on the worst wheel ... I suspect that modern tires are =
made pretty accurately. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Regarding the =
&quot;scalloping&quot; I actually made 4 cuts on each tire and managed =
to position the blade to cut the tread fairly much like the original =
profile.. After a 10 mile run the tires look just like they did =
when&nbsp; before the treatment.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Michael =
S<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>BN1 =
#174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Wed, =
Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ingenious, and very =
not PC, but, wouldn't it have been easier to true the wheels?&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>You probably want =
to run a little under-inflated as well, to compensate for the width-wise =
scalloping of the tread.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
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style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
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width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&quot;Michael =
Salter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: =
</b>&quot;healeys&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: =
</b>Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:54:33 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] =
New Post on my Blog...tire truing<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Not recommended for =
the home mechanic but very effective...<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/</a><o:p></o:p></span=
></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>Michael S<br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br>-- =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>If you can't =
fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.</span></i><span =
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n></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:16:41 +0000 (UTC)

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The wire wheel specialists I've known don't bother with the spokes when rebuilding a wheel--e.g. when replacing a worn center hub--they just cut the old spokes out with a bolt cutter. It's a labor intensive job, and the spokes are a relatively small part of the cost. 

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True enough. Trying to true a wheel that is even mildly flattened or more often potato chipped seldom succeeds, leaves an unstable wheel because some spokes are loose and that is unsafe because some spokes are overstressed. I think MWS will shorten pre-existing high quality butted spokes as needed. So, if the rim is reasonably circular, perhaps the long-term solution is to relace the wheel with new spokes. 

The problem with trying to true the old 48 spoke wheels is that the nipples seize on the spokes after 60 odd years and it is virtually impossible to free up the threads to save the spokes which are just not available for these really early wheels .... also the actual rim itself is often a little distorted and straightening that is very difficult and cannot be achieved by simply adjusting the spokes. 

I had heard of people deflating the tire and rotating it 90 degrees on the rim then checking again so I gave that a try... There was no measurable change although I tried it in all 4 quadrants on the worst wheel ... I suspect that modern tires are made pretty accurately. 

Regarding the "scalloping" I actually made 4 cuts on each tire and managed to position the blade to cut the tread fairly much like the original profile.. After a 10 mile run the tires look just like they did when before the treatment. 

Michael S 

BN1 #174 

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Bob Spidell < [email-masked] > wrote: 

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<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">The problem with tryi=
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after 60 odd years and it is virtually impossible to free up the threads to=
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 .... also the actual rim itself is often a little distorted and straighten=
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n the worst wheel ... I suspect that modern tires are made pretty accuratel=
y. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0=
pt"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Regarding the "sc=
alloping" I actually made 4 cuts on each tire and managed to position the b=
lade to cut the tread fairly much like the original profile.. After a 10 mi=
le run the tires look just like they did when&nbsp; before the treatment.</=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=
;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Michael S</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
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/div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
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=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;colo=
r:black">Ingenious, and very not PC, but, wouldn't it have been easier to t=
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:07:07 -0700

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Agree. Spokes are normally cut and tossed. I was suggesting MWS may be a =
source for Healey original style 48 spoke wheels.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:17 AM
To: Hap Polk <[email-masked]>
Cc: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>; healeys =
<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing

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The wire wheel specialists I've known don't bother with the spokes when =
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the old spokes out with a bolt cutter.  It's a labor intensive job, and =
the spokes are a relatively small part of the cost.

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>Agree. Spokes are normally cut and tossed. I was suggesting MWS may be =
a source for Healey original style 48 spoke =
wheels.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Bob Spidell [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
September 30, 2015 9:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> Hap Polk =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Michael Salter =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Post =
on my Blog...tire truing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The wire wheel =
specialists I've known don't bother with the spokes when rebuilding a =
wheel--e.g. when replacing a worn center hub--they just cut the old =
spokes out with a bolt cutter.&nbsp; It's a labor intensive job, and the =
spokes are a relatively small part of the =
cost.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=3D3 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
more often potato chipped seldom succeeds, leaves an unstable wheel =
because some spokes are loose and that is unsafe because some spokes are =
overstressed. I think MWS will shorten pre-existing high quality butted =
spokes as needed. So, if the rim is reasonably circular, perhaps the =
long-term solution is to relace the wheel with new spokes.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>The problem with trying to true the old 48 spoke wheels =
is that the nipples seize on the spokes after 60 odd years and it is =
virtually impossible to free up the threads to save the spokes which are =
just not available for these really early wheels .... also the actual =
rim itself is often a little distorted and straightening that is very =
difficult and cannot be achieved by simply adjusting the spokes. =
</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>I had heard of people deflating the tire and rotating =
it 90 degrees on the rim then checking again so I gave that a try... =
There was no measurable change although I tried it in all 4 quadrants on =
the worst wheel ... I suspect that modern tires are made pretty =
accurately. </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Regarding the =
&quot;scalloping&quot; I actually made 4 cuts on each tire and managed =
to position the blade to cut the tread fairly much like the original =
profile.. After a 10 mile run the tires look just like they did =
when&nbsp; before the treatment.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>Michael S</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>BN1 #174</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at =
10:18 AM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ingenious, and very =
not PC, but, wouldn't it have been easier to true the wheels?&nbsp; =
</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>You probably want =
to run a little under-inflated as well, to compensate for the width-wise =
scalloping of the tread.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=3D3 =
width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>=
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Opps: Spokes for Healey original style 48 spoke wheels.=20

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Polk
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:07 PM
To: 'Bob Spidell' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing

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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:17 AM
Cc: Michael Salter <[email-masked] =
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing

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>Opps: Spokes for Healey original style 48 spoke wheels. =
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Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hap =
Polk<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Bob Spidell' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'healeys' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Post =
on my Blog...tire truing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
a source for Healey original style 48 spoke =
wheels.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
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/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Bob Spidell [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> Hap =
Polk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; =
healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire =
truing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
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specialists I've known don't bother with the spokes when rebuilding a =
wheel--e.g. when replacing a worn center hub--they just cut the old =
spokes out with a bolt cutter.&nbsp; It's a labor intensive job, and the =
spokes are a relatively small part of the =
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At the cost of the labor and spokes how can it be worth rebuilding =
wheels unless you want them to be original.

New spokes painted are $6.00 a spoke and they have to cut all the spokes =
to save time. That=E2=80=99s $288.00 in spokes and a new 48 spoke pained =
wheel is $260.00.

New Chrome spokes are $12.00 a spoke. That=E2=80=99s $576.00 in new =
chrome spokes and $368.00 for a new wheel.=20

Not hard math to do. INstall new wheels.

David Nock
[email-masked]
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Hap Polk=20
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<DIV>At the cost of the labor and spokes how can it be worth rebuilding =
wheels=20
unless you want them to be original.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>New spokes painted are $6.00 a spoke and they have to cut all the =
spokes to=20
save time. That=E2=80=99s $288.00 in spokes and a new 48 spoke pained =
wheel is=20
$260.00.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>New Chrome spokes are $12.00 a spoke. That=E2=80=99s $576.00 in new =
chrome spokes=20
and $368.00 for a new wheel. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Not hard math to do. INstall new wheels.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: =
#000000">David=20
Nock<BR>[email-masked]<BR>209 948=20
8767<BR>www.britishcarspecialists.com</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=[email-masked] =

href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Hap Polk</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'Bob Spidell'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'healeys'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire=20
truing</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: =
#1f497d'>Opps:=20
Spokes for Healey original style 48 spoke wheels. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><A name=3D_MailEndCompose><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: =
#1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></A>&nbsp;</P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys=20
[mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Hap=20
Polk<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
'Bob=20
Spidell' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'healeys'=20
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] New Post =
on my=20
Blog...tire truing<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: =
#1f497d'>Agree.=20
Spokes are normally cut and tossed. I was suggesting MWS may be a source =
for=20
Healey original style 48 spoke wheels.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: =
#1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> Bob =
Spidell [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A>]=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:17 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Hap =
Polk=20
&lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
Michael Salter &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;; =
healeys=20
&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR>=
<B>Subject:</B>=20
Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire=20
truing<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: black'>The wire wheel =
specialists=20
I've known don't bother with the spokes when rebuilding a wheel--e.g. =
when=20
replacing a worn center hub--they just cut the old spokes out with a =
bolt=20
cutter.&nbsp; It's a labor intensive job, and the spokes are a =
relatively small=20
part of the cost.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><SPAN =

style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: black'>
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</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: =
#1f497d'>True=20
enough. Trying to true a wheel that is even mildly flattened or more =
often=20
potato chipped seldom succeeds, leaves an unstable wheel because some =
spokes are=20
loose and that is unsafe because some spokes are overstressed. I think =
MWS will=20
shorten pre-existing high quality butted spokes as needed. So, if the =
rim is=20
reasonably circular, perhaps the long-term solution is to relace the =
wheel with=20
new spokes.</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: =
#1f497d'>&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: =
black'>The=20
problem with trying to true the old 48 spoke wheels is that the nipples =
seize on=20
the spokes after 60 odd years and it is virtually impossible to free up =
the=20
threads to save the spokes which are just not available for these really =
early=20
wheels .... also the actual rim itself is often a little distorted and=20
straightening that is very difficult and cannot be achieved by simply =
adjusting=20
the spokes. </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: =
black'>I=20
had heard of people deflating the tire and rotating it 90 degrees on the =
rim=20
then checking again so I gave that a try... There was no measurable =
change=20
although I tried it in all 4 quadrants on the worst wheel ... I suspect =
that=20
modern tires are made pretty accurately. </SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: black'>Regarding the =
"scalloping" I=20
actually made 4 cuts on each tire and managed to position the blade to =
cut the=20
tread fairly much like the original profile.. After a 10 mile run the =
tires look=20
just like they did when&nbsp; before the treatment.</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: black'>Michael =
S</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"; COLOR: =
black'>BN1=20
#174</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 =
at 10:18 AM,=20
Bob Spidell &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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very not=20
  PC, but, wouldn't it have been easier to true the wheels?&nbsp; =
</SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'>&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: black'>You probably =
want to run=20
  a little under-inflated as well, to compensate for the width-wise =
scalloping=20
  of the tread.</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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  style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
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Probably why the rebuilders I used to know went out of business.=20

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At the cost of the labor and spokes how can it be worth rebuilding wheels u=
nless you want them to be original.=20
New spokes painted are $6.00 a spoke and they have to cut all the spokes to=
 save time. That=E2=80=99s $288.00 in spokes and a new 48 spoke pained whee=
l is $260.00.=20
New Chrome spokes are $12.00 a spoke. That=E2=80=99s $576.00 in new chrome =
spokes and $368.00 for a new wheel.=20
Not hard math to do. INstall new wheels.=20
David Nock=20
[email-masked]=20
209 948 8767=20
www.britishcarspecialists.com=20
From: Hap Polk=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:28 PM=20
To: 'Bob Spidell'=20
Cc: 'healeys'=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Hap Polk=
=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:07 PM=20
To: 'Bob Spidell' <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: 'healeys' <[email-masked]>=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing=20

Agree. Spokes are normally cut and tossed. I was suggesting MWS may be a so=
urce for Healey original style 48 spoke wheels.=20

From: Bob Spidell [ mailto:[email-masked] ]=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:17 AM=20
To: Hap Polk < [email-masked] >=20
Cc: Michael Salter < [email-masked] >; healeys < [email-masked]=
m.net >=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing=20

The wire wheel specialists I've known don't bother with the spokes when reb=
uilding a wheel--e.g. when replacing a worn center hub--they just cut the o=
ld spokes out with a bolt cutter. It's a labor intensive job, and the spoke=
s are a relatively small part of the cost.=20

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<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:28 PM</div>
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truing</div></div></div>
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From: Al Malin <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:12:57 -0400

Flashback:

Back in the Spring of 1963 my 1962 Tricarb had a number of broken spokes on its painted 48-spoke wire wheels. The local AH dealer told me to take them to the Harley Davidson dealer for repair. The parts cost was 15 cents per spoke and 15 cents per nipple, plus labor. After they trued the wheels and painted them they looked and ran like new.

BTW, I asked why the number of spokes replaced were greater than the number broke and they told me it was because many had frozen threads and broke when adjusted.

Al Malin
Tricarb

> On Sep 30, 2015, at 5:08 PM, David Nock <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> At the cost of the labor and spokes how can it be worth rebuilding wheels unless you want them to be original.
> 
> New spokes painted are $6.00 a spoke and they have to cut all the spokes to save time. That’s $288.00 in spokes and a new 48 spoke pained wheel is $260.00.
> 
> New Chrome spokes are $12.00 a spoke. That’s $576.00 in new chrome spokes and $368.00 for a new wheel.
> 

[email-masked]

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From: "Greg Lemon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 18:48:21 -0500

Flashback II:
I remember trying to adjust the spokes on my MGs, Healeys,  and Triumphs 
when I drove them back in the day and they were 10-15 years old at most. 
Even with extensive use of heat and penetrating oil I was never able to turn 
a single nipple on its threads, maybe such things worked in milder climates, 
but not in the midwest.   It does not surprise me that Al had frozen spokes 
after a year.

I think you can successfully shore up a wheel that is fairly straight and 
mostly solid by replacing a few bent or missing spokes, at least I have done 
it a few times, but as stated, a total rebuild of a bad wheel just doesn't 
seem to make much sense from any perspective.

Greg Lemon

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From: "Al Malin" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 6:12 PM
To: "Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Post on my Blog...tire truing

> Flashback:
>
> Back in the Spring of 1963 my 1962 Tricarb had a number of broken spokes 
> on its painted 48-spoke wire wheels. The local AH dealer told me to take 
> them to the Harley Davidson dealer for repair. The parts cost was 15 cents 
> per spoke and 15 cents per nipple, plus labor. After they trued the wheels 
> and painted them they looked and ran like new.
>
> BTW, I asked why the number of spokes replaced were greater than the 
> number broke and they told me it was because many had frozen threads and 
> broke when adjusted.
>
> Al Malin
> Tricarb
>
>
>> New spokes painted are $6.00 a spoke and they have to cut all the spokes 
>> to save time. That’s $288.00 in spokes and a new 48 spoke pained wheel is 
>> $260.00.
>>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
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> 

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:09:09 -0700

Replacing wheels or possibly a few spokes and nipples are good
solutions for most Healey owners.  However if you have an early BN1
like Michael and like me, and you want the car to remain original you
have to find a way to work with the 'flat' hubs that those cars come
with.  As Michael's original posting showed, the spokes are different,
different lengths and different angles of the spoke base to the spoke
direction.

So, someone who wanted to modify the later spokes to fit the early
wheels would need to get long spokes, shorten and rethread them, and
bend them at the base end, all without seriously weakening the spokes.

I don't know of anyone who can produce these modified spokes for BN1s.
And if someone did, they ought to charge about $25 per spoke or
something over $1000 per wheel just for 48 spokes.

Hence, even pretty good original early BN1 wheels approach hens' teeth
in scarcity.  If Michael can make pretty good wheels work with a few
cuts on the tires with his table saw I say good on him.  I hope that I
will be able to make the early wheels that I have work as well, one
way or another.

-Roland
BN1 #724

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:39:02 -0700, you wrote:

>From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Michael Salter
>  _____  

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