Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 ...

From: "Simon Lachlan" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 23:05:04 +0100

I hate to start another oil war, but:
Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was less
important than the frequency of the oil changes - ie change yr oil often - I
get my 20 -50 from a farm depot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the drum
doesn't have a picture of a Classic Car on it. It's good stuff....most
decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn't put any
old stuff in their engines! I've been running on Mole Valley Farmers' 20-50
for the last +/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least every 3,000 miles.
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob
Spidell
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 18:02
To: Healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 ...

... appears to be no longer available in California.  Amazon has it, but
won't ship to either my address or my parents', and my favorite local parts
house said they 'yanked it off the shelves' at all their warehouses.

Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.

Bob

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Hi Simon,
The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to
protect solid lifters.
Read this..http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=49

Michael S
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Simon, <br>
The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to prote=
ct solid lifters.<br>
Read this..<a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49">http://www=
.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49</a></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael S</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, &quot;Simon Lachlan&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@homeca=
ll.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">I hate to start another oil war, but:<br>
Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was less=
<br>
important than the frequency of the oil changes - ie change yr oil often - =
I<br>
get my 20 -50 from a farm depot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the drum<br>
doesn&#39;t have a picture of a Classic Car on it. It&#39;s good stuff....m=
ost<br>
decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn&#39;t put=
 any<br>
old stuff in their engines! I&#39;ve been running on Mole Valley Farmers&#3=
9; 20-50<br>
for the last +/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least every 3,000 miles.<br>
Simon<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">hea=
[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
Spidell<br>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 18:02<br>
To: Healeys<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 ...<br>
<br>
... appears to be no longer available in California.=C2=A0 Amazon has it, b=
ut<br>
won&#39;t ship to either my address or my parents&#39;, and my favorite loc=
al parts<br>
house said they &#39;yanked it off the shelves&#39; at all their warehouses=
.<br>
<br>
Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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You can get Red Line in Ca.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
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d=3D"AppleMailSignature">Lake Speed Jr from Drives Oils a part of Joe Gibbs R=
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><br><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separat=
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On May 8, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Simon Lachlan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachla=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span>I hate to start another oil war, but:</s=
pan><br><span>Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the=
 oil was less</span><br><span>important than the frequency of the oil change=
s - ie change yr oil often - I</span><br><span>get my 20 -50 from a farm dep=
ot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the drum</span><br><span>doesn't have a pi=
cture of a Classic Car on it. It's good stuff....most</span><br><span>decent=
 size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn't put any</span>=
<br><span>old stuff in their engines! I've been running on Mole Valley Farme=
rs' 20-50</span><br><span>for the last +/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least ev=
ery 3,000 miles.</span><br><span>Simon</span><br><span></span><br><span>----=
-Original Message-----</span><br><span>From: Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:heal=
[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] On Be=
half Of Bob</span><br><span>Spidell</span><br><span>Sent: Sunday, May 8, 201=
6 18:02</span><br><span>To: Healeys</span><br><span>Subject: [Healeys] Valvo=
line VR-1 20W-50 ...</span><br><span></span><br><span>... appears to be no l=
onger available in California. &nbsp;Amazon has it, but</span><br><span>won'=
t ship to either my address or my parents', and my favorite local parts</spa=
n><br><span>house said they 'yanked it off the shelves' at all their warehou=
ses.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs R=
acing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Bob</span><=
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:16:01 +0000 (UTC)

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I'd want to know for sure before I used it (the tractor stuff), but I'd wager if it's for tractors--which probably have solid lifters--it has plenty of ZDDP. 

Have heard that tractors use Healey engines. 

Bob 

----- Original Message -----

Hi Simon, 
The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to protect solid lifters. 
Read this.. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=49 

Michael S 
On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, "Simon Lachlan" < [email-masked] > wrote: 

Bob 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I'd want to know for sure before I use=
d it (the tractor stuff), but I'd wager if it's for tractors--which probabl=
y have solid lifters--it has plenty of ZDDP.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compos=
e body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Have heard that tractors=
 use Healey engines.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div a=
ria-label=3D"Compose body">Bob</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div st=
yle=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"=
color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none=
; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div><br></div=
><p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Simon, <br> The problem is the ZDDP content which is eit=
her missing or too low to protect solid lifters.<br> Read this..<a href=3D"=
http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=
=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49">http://www.netbug.net/blogmi=
chael/?p=3D49</a></p><p dir=3D"ltr">Michael S</p><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, "Simon Lachlan" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachl=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@=
homecall.co.uk">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #=
ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">I hate to start another oil war, but:<br> Re=
calling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was less<b=
r> important than the frequency of the oil changes - ie change yr oil often=
 - I<br> get my 20 -50 from a farm depot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the=
 drum<br> doesn't have a picture of a Classic Car on it. It's good stuff...=
.most<br> decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn=
't put any<br> old stuff in their engines! I've been running on Mole Valley=
 Farmers' 20-50<br> for the last +/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least every 3=
,000 miles.<br> Simon<br> <br><br> <br> ... appears to be no longer availab=
le in California.&nbsp; Amazon has it, but<br> won't ship to either my addr=
ess or my parents', and my favorite local parts<br> house said they 'yanked=
 it off the shelves' at all their warehouses.<br> <br> Best (only?) alterna=
tive is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.<br> <br> Bob<br> <br> <b=
r> <br><br></blockquote></div></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>
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From: Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 00:30:19 +1000

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I'm with Mike on this one.=20
It's about the flat tappet cam lubrication issues.
What's the most worn out thing in any Healey engine? Cam & camfollowers.=20
Always. Always has been.=20
Me? Penrite HPR40 or HPR50. =20
Look at the ZDDP numbers.=20
https://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.php?id_categ=3D1&id_products=3D5
No affiliation, no financial interest.=20
No oil wars, just look at the ZDDP numbers.=20
And the Denis Welch gun drilled camshafts with oil holes in each lobe also h=
elp immensely.=20
But if you have a factory solid camshaft, then you need to look at ZDDP numb=
ers first. Works for me.=20
"DOUBLE LAYER of engine wear protection with FULL ZINC (approx. 1500 ppm)"
Your cam life may vary...
Best
Chris
www.myaustinhealey.com=20

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> The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to prot=
ect solid lifters.
> Read this..http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49
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> Michael S
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rote:
>> Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was le=
ss
 I
>> decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn't put a=
ny
>> old stuff in their engines! I've been running on Mole Valley Farmers' 20-=
50
>> won't ship to either my address or my parents', and my favorite local par=
ts
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equ=
iv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>I'm with Mik=
e on this one.&nbsp;</div><div>It's about the flat tappet cam lubrication is=
sues.</div><div>What's the most worn out thing in any Healey engine? Cam &am=
p; camfollowers.&nbsp;</div><div>Always. Always has been.&nbsp;</div><div>Me=
? Penrite HPR40 or HPR50. &nbsp;</div><div>Look at the ZDDP numbers.&nbsp;</=
div><div><a href=3D"https://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.php?id_categ=3D1&=
amp;id_products=3D5">https://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.php?id_categ=3D1=
&amp;id_products=3D5</a></div><div>No affiliation, no financial interest.&nb=
sp;</div><div>No oil wars, just look at the ZDDP numbers.&nbsp;</div><div>An=
d the Denis Welch gun drilled camshafts with oil holes in each lobe also hel=
p immensely.&nbsp;</div><div>But if you have a factory solid camshaft, then y=
ou need to look at ZDDP numbers first. Works for me.&nbsp;<br><div>"<span st=
yle=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span style=3D"box-sizing:=
 border-box; font-weight: 700; text-align: justify;">DOUBLE LAYER</span><spa=
n style=3D"text-align: justify;">&nbsp;of engine wear protection with&nbsp;<=
/span><span style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700; text-align: j=
ustify;">FULL ZINC</span><span style=3D"text-align: justify;">&nbsp;(approx.=
 1500 ppm)"</span></span></div><div><div style=3D"text-align: justify;">Your=
 cam life may vary...</div><div style=3D"text-align: justify;">Best</div><di=
v style=3D"text-align: justify;">Chris</div><div style=3D"text-align: justif=
y;"><a href=3D"http://www.myaustinhealey.com">www.myaustinhealey.com</a>&nbs=
p;</div><div><br><br><div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><br>On 9 May 2=
016, at 10:11 PM, Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div><p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Simon, <br>
The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to protec=
t solid lifters.<br>
Read this..<a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49">http://www.=
netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49</a></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael S</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, "Simon Lachlan" &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
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"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I hate to st=
art another oil war, but:<br>
Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was less<=
br>
important than the frequency of the oil changes - ie change yr oil often - I=
<br>
get my 20 -50 from a farm depot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the drum<br>
doesn't have a picture of a Classic Car on it. It's good stuff....most<br>
decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn't put any<=
br>
old stuff in their engines! I've been running on Mole Valley Farmers' 20-50<=
br>
for the last +/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least every 3,000 miles.<br>
Simon<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heal=
[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
Spidell<br>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 18:02<br>
To: Healeys<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 ...<br>
<br>
... appears to be no longer available in California.&nbsp; Amazon has it, bu=
t<br>
won't ship to either my address or my parents', and my favorite local parts<=
br>
house said they 'yanked it off the shelves' at all their warehouses.<br>
<br>
Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
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Lucas oil has classic car and race car oils with zddp and will ship for
~$8.00 a quart.

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Lucas oil has classic car and race car oils with zddp and =
will ship for ~$8.00 a quart.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"=
all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><=
div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span=
><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \__=
__1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roma=
n&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><=
div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div=
><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:11 AM, Michael Salt=
er <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Simon, <br>
The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to prote=
ct solid lifters.<br>
Read this..<a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49</a></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael S</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, &quot;=
Simon Lachlan&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attri=
bution"></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">I hate to st=
art another oil war, but:<br>
Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was less=
<br>
important than the frequency of the oil changes - ie change yr oil often - =
I<br>
get my 20 -50 from a farm depot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the drum<br>
doesn&#39;t have a picture of a Classic Car on it. It&#39;s good stuff....m=
ost<br>
decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn&#39;t put=
 any<br>
old stuff in their engines! I&#39;ve been running on Mole Valley Farmers&#3=
9; 20-50<br>
for the last +/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least every 3,000 miles.<br>
Simon<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
Spidell<br>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 18:02<br>
To: Healeys<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 ...<br>
<br></span><span class=3D"">
... appears to be no longer available in California.=C2=A0 Amazon has it, b=
ut<br>
won&#39;t ship to either my address or my parents&#39;, and my favorite loc=
al parts<br>
house said they &#39;yanked it off the shelves&#39; at all their warehouses=
.<br>
<br>
Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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Didn't the Healey tractor engines have red blocks while the cars were Heale=
y green blocks?

Curious as my block is red and the ID is covered over by the rebuilders pla=
te.

Regards,
Richard C

@comcast.net>> wrote:

I'd want to know for sure before I used it (the tractor stuff), but I'd wag=
er if it's for tractors--which probably have solid lifters--it has plenty o=
f ZDDP.

Bob

________________________________

Hi Simon,
ct solid lifters.

Michael S

On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, "Simon Lachlan" <[email-masked]<mail=
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Bob

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<div>Didn't the Healey tractor engines have red blocks while the cars were =
Healey green blocks?</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Curious as my block is red and the ID is cov=
ered over by the rebuilders plate.<br>
<br>
Regards,
<div>Richard C</div>
<div><br>
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</div>
<div><br>
On May 9, 2016, at 12:45, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcas=
t.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">
<div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I'd want to know for sure before I used it=
 (the tractor stuff), but I'd wager if it's for tractors--which probably ha=
ve solid lifters--it has plenty of ZDDP.</div>
<div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
</div>
<div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Have heard that tractors use Healey engine=
s.</div>
<div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
</div>
<div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Bob</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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n: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<div><br>
</div>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Simon, <br>
The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to prote=
ct solid lifters.<br>
Read this..<a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49" target=3D"=
_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49">http://=
www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49</a></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael S</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, &quot;Simon Lachlan&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" da=
ta-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@homecall.=
co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border=
-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
I hate to start another oil war, but:<br>
Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was less=
<br>
important than the frequency of the oil changes - ie change yr oil often - =
I<br>
get my 20 -50 from a farm depot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the drum<br>
doesn't have a picture of a Classic Car on it. It's good stuff....most<br>
decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn't put any=
<br>
old stuff in their engines! I've been running on Mole Valley Farmers' 20-50=
<br>
for the last &#43;/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least every 3,000 miles.<br>
Simon<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
... appears to be no longer available in California.&nbsp; Amazon has it, b=
ut<br>
won't ship to either my address or my parents', and my favorite local parts=
<br>
house said they 'yanked it off the shelves' at all their warehouses.<br>
<br>
Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10&#43;/qt. Ouch.<=
br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Since this became a known issue I have been adding a bottle of ZDDPlus or
other similar additives to the oil in all of my cars.  I usually use Royal
Purple street oil in the Healey and always use Royal Purple XPR 41 or 51,
depending on the season, in my race engines.  No cam failures....

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> I'm with Mike on this one.
> What's the most worn out thing in any Healey engine? Cam & camfollowers.
> Always. Always has been.
> Me? Penrite HPR40 or HPR50.
> Look at the ZDDP numbers.
> https://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.php?id_categ=1&id_products=5
> No affiliation, no financial interest.
> No oil wars, just look at the ZDDP numbers.
> And the Denis Welch gun drilled camshafts with oil holes in each lobe also
> help immensely.
> But if you have a factory solid camshaft, then you need to look at ZDDP
> numbers first. Works for me.
> www.myaustinhealey.com
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Since=
 this became a known issue I have been adding a bottle of ZDDPlus or other =
similar additives to the oil in all of my cars.=C2=A0 I usually use Royal P=
urple street oil in the Healey and always use Royal Purple XPR 41 or 51, de=
pending on the season, in my race engines.=C2=A0 No cam failures....</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt =C2=A0</div></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 9,=
 2016 at 10:30 AM, Chris Dimmock <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:au=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div><span>=
</span></div><div><div>I&#39;m with Mike on this one.=C2=A0</div><div>It&#3=
9;s about the flat tappet cam lubrication issues.</div><div>What&#39;s the =
most worn out thing in any Healey engine? Cam &amp; camfollowers.=C2=A0</di=
v><div>Always. Always has been.=C2=A0</div><div>Me? Penrite HPR40 or HPR50.=
 =C2=A0</div><div>Look at the ZDDP numbers.=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http=
s://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.php?id_categ=3D1&amp;id_products=3D5" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.php?id_categ=3D1&amp=
;id_products=3D5</a></div><div>No affiliation, no financial interest.=C2=A0=
</div><div>No oil wars, just look at the ZDDP numbers.=C2=A0</div><div>And =
the Denis Welch gun drilled camshafts with oil holes in each lobe also help=
 immensely.=C2=A0</div><div>But if you have a factory solid camshaft, then =
you need to look at ZDDP numbers first. Works for me.=C2=A0<br><div>&quot;<=
span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style=3D"font-wei=
ght:700;text-align:justify">DOUBLE LAYER</span><span style=3D"text-align:ju=
stify">=C2=A0of engine wear protection with=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font=
-weight:700;text-align:justify">FULL ZINC</span><span style=3D"text-align:j=
ustify">=C2=A0(approx. 1500 ppm)&quot;</span></span></div><div><div style=
=3D"text-align:justify">Your cam life may vary...</div><div style=3D"text-a=
lign:justify">Best</div><div style=3D"text-align:justify">Chris</div><div s=
tyle=3D"text-align:justify"><a href=3D"http://www.myaustinhealey.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">www.myaustinhealey.com</a>=C2=A0</div><div><br><br><div>Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On 9 May 2016, at =
10:11 PM, Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><div><p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Simon, <br>
The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to prote=
ct solid lifters.<br>
Read this..<a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49</a></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael S</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, &quot;Simon Lachlan&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">si=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">I hate to start another oil war, but:<br>
Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was less=
<br>
important than the frequency of the oil changes - ie change yr oil often - =
I<br>
get my 20 -50 from a farm depot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the drum<br>
doesn&#39;t have a picture of a Classic Car on it. It&#39;s good stuff....m=
ost<br>
decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn&#39;t put=
 any<br>
old stuff in their engines! I&#39;ve been running on Mole Valley Farmers&#3=
9; 20-50<br>
for the last +/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least every 3,000 miles.<br>
Simon<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
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get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
Spidell<br>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 18:02<br>
To: Healeys<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 ...<br>
<br>
... appears to be no longer available in California.=C2=A0 Amazon has it, b=
ut<br>
won&#39;t ship to either my address or my parents&#39;, and my favorite loc=
al parts<br>
house said they &#39;yanked it off the shelves&#39; at all their warehouses=
.<br>
<br>
Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
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Don't we still have the Castrol Syntec option or is that NLA?
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spidell [email-masked]

... appears to be no longer available in California.  Amazon has it, but 
won't ship to either my address or my parents', and my favorite local 
parts house said they 'yanked it off the shelves' at all their warehouses.

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<div>Don't we still have the Castrol Syntec option or is that NLA?</div>

<div>Gary</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Bob Spidell <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
<br>
... appears to be no longer available in California.  Amazon has it, but <br>
won't ship to either my address or my parents', and my favorite local <br>
parts house said they 'yanked it off the shelves' at all their warehouses.<br>
<br>
Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
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I can still get it here in Oregon, But I can order LucasOil Race 20/50 with
z stuff and have it shipped to my house cheaper than buying Castrol at my
local shops.....

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______

> Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I can still get it here in Oregon, But I can order LucasOi=
l Race 20/50 with z stuff and have it shipped to my house cheaper than buyi=
ng Castrol at my local shops.....</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=
=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</d=
iv><div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</=
span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_____=
_ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New=
 Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,ser=
if">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></d=
iv><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words=
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:39 AM,  <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">wartho=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font =
color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">
<div>Don&#39;t we still have the Castrol Syntec option or is that NLA?</div=

<div>Gary</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>

<div>=C2=A0</div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Bob Spidell <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a><br>
<br>
... appears to be no longer available in California.  Amazon has it, but <b=
r>
al <br>
parts house said they &#39;yanked it off the shelves&#39; at all their ware=
houses.<br>
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The Lucas oil states it is 'racing only.' Does that mean: 

1) it's not street-legal? 

2) it doesn't have detergents and/or dispersants? 

3) it has to be changed out every few hundred miles? 

4) all of the above? 

5) none of the above? 

Bob 

----- Original Message -----

I can still get it here in Oregon, But I can order LucasOil Race 20/50 with z stuff and have it shipped to my house cheaper than buying Castrol at my local shops..... 

Ira Erbs 
Portland,OR 
_______ _______ 

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:39 AM, < [email-masked] > wrote: 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">The Lucas oil states it is 'racing onl=
y.' &nbsp;Does that mean:</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><=
div aria-label=3D"Compose body">1) it's not street-legal?</div><div aria-la=
bel=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">2) it doesn=
't have detergents and/or dispersants?</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body=
"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">3) it has to be changed out ev=
ery few hundred miles?</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div=
 aria-label=3D"Compose body">4) all of the above?</div><div aria-label=3D"C=
ompose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">5) none of the abov=
e?</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compo=
se body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Bob</div><div aria-labe=
l=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"=
color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-f=
amily:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: =
#000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-=
family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b></b><br><div><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">I can still get it here in Oregon, But I can order Lu=
casOil Race 20/50 with z stuff and have it shipped to my house cheaper than=
 buying Castrol at my local shops.....</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,=
OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:'Times New Roman',serif" data-mce-s=
tyle=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _______=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;_______</span><br style=3D"font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Times New =
Roman',serif;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Times New Roman',serif" data-mce=
-style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (_____=
_ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:'Times New Rom=
an',serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:'Times New Roman',serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-family:=
 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (_____________=
____________)</span></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BT7 engin=
e and disk brakes</div><div><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto correc=
ts and misspelled words</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:39 AM, <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-m=
ce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex;=
 border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>Don't we still have =
the Castrol Syntec option or is that NLA?</div><div>Gary</div><div>&nbsp;</=
div><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica;=
font-size:10pt" data-mce-style=3D"color: black; font-family: arial,helvetic=
a; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Bob Spidell <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br> <br> ... appears to be=
 no longer available in California. Amazon has it, but <br> won't ship to e=
ither my address or my parents', and my favorite local <br> parts house sai=
d they 'yanked it off the shelves' at all their warehouses.<br> <br> Best (=
only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.<br> <br> B=
ob<br> <br></div> <br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div></div><div><br></di=
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