Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electronic Parking Brake

From: andy pole <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 09:48:07 +0000

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Hi Alan
Great till they go wrong and cost 10x the amount of a cable system.
My Range Rover sport lost the end from one of the motor driven cables and t=
his then pulled the cable in locking up the motor. Impossible to then drive=
! A garage would just change the motor/ cable assembly costing ?500 for par=
ts and then have to strip and set up both sides. So 3 times the price with =
labour.
I googled the issue (same system on jags etc) and it is possible (after a c=
ouple of hours! Upside down under the car!) to free up the motor shaft. The=
n it took a couple more hours to strip brakes and setup. Try searching all =
the issues!
So no thanks, most owners would prefer the 'old system'!
Regards Andy

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Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 09:39
Subject: [Healeys] Electronic Parking Brake

All -

My BJ8 (and also my Jag Mk IX) both have rear disc brakes.

I was wondering if anyone has ever thought to install electronic parking br=
akes on their cars?  Anyone with experience/thoughts?

I just got a Tesla BJ-S and I have to say I really like the electronic e-br=
ake it has.

Best,

Alan

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<div>Hi Alan</div>
<div>Great till they go wrong and cost 10x the amount of a cable system.</d=
iv>
<div>My Range Rover sport lost the end from one of the motor driven cables =
and this then pulled the cable in locking up the motor. Impossible to then =
drive! A garage would just change the motor/ cable assembly costing &pound;=
500 for parts and then have to strip and
 set up both sides. So 3 times the price with labour.</div>
<div>I googled the issue (same system on jags etc) and it is possible (afte=
r a couple of hours! Upside down under the car!) to free up the motor shaft=
. Then it took a couple more hours to strip brakes and setup. Try searching=
 all the issues!</div>
<div>So no thanks, most owners would prefer the 'old system'!</div>
<div>Regards Andy&nbsp;<br>
<br>
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From: Alan Seigrist &lt;<a dir=3D"ltr" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
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Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 09:39<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Electronic Parking Brake<br>
To: Healey list &lt;<a dir=3D"ltr" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" x=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">All -
<div><br>
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<div>My BJ8 (and also my Jag Mk IX) both have rear disc brakes. &nbsp;</div=
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I was wondering if anyone has ever thought to install electronic parki=
ng brakes on their cars?&nbsp; Anyone with experience/thoughts?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I just got a Tesla BJ-S and I have to say I really like the electronic=
 e-brake it has.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Alan</div>
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From: "John Rowe" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 19:03:50 +1000

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Totally agree with Andy. Don=92t go there!!!

As a Land Rover Discovery 4 owner which has the same handbrake, after
spending the last day relining the handbrake, one side of which the =
linings
had disappeared, I can relate to his frustration. Evidently badly =
adjusted
at one time.

As it is controlled by a computer, I cannot even contemplate what the
archaic charging system on a Healey would do to that ($$$$$$).

I am just hoping that someone out there in Land Rover land has come with =
a
manual conversion system like a Healey already has.

=20

John Rowe

Queensland, Australia

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of andy =
pole
Sent: Monday, 9 May 2016 7:48 PM
To: Alan Seigrist; Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electronic Parking Brake

=20

Hi Alan

My Range Rover sport lost the end from one of the motor driven cables =
and
this then pulled the cable in locking up the motor. Impossible to then
drive! A garage would just change the motor/ cable assembly costing =
=A3500 for
parts and then have to strip and set up both sides. So 3 times the price
with labour.

I googled the issue (same system on jags etc) and it is possible (after =
a
couple of hours! Upside down under the car!) to free up the motor shaft.
Then it took a couple more hours to strip brakes and setup. Try =
searching
all the issues!

Regards Andy=20

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/vwm83r> . Yes, it works with =
gmail.

=20

_____________________________
From: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 09:39
Subject: [Healeys] Electronic Parking Brake
To: Healey list <[email-masked]>

All -=20

=20

My BJ8 (and also my Jag Mk IX) both have rear disc brakes. =20

=20

I was wondering if anyone has ever thought to install electronic parking
brakes on their cars?  Anyone with experience/thoughts?

=20

I just got a Tesla BJ-S and I have to say I really like the electronic
e-brake it has.

=20

Best,

=20

Alan

=20

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D'> As a Land Rover Discovery 4 owner which has the same handbrake, =
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badly adjusted at one time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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D'>As it is controlled by a computer, I cannot even contemplate what the =
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($$$$$$).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'> I am just hoping that someone out there in Land Rover land has come =
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[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>andy =
pole<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 9 May 2016 7:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Alan =
Seigrist; Healey list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Electronic =
Parking Brake<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div id=3Dcompose><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hi Alan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Great till they go wrong and cost 10x the amount of a =
cable system.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My Range =
Rover sport lost the end from one of the motor driven cables and this =
then pulled the cable in locking up the motor. Impossible to then drive! =
A garage would just change the motor/ cable assembly costing =A3500 for =
parts and then have to strip and set up both sides. So 3 times the price =
with labour.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I googled the =
issue (same system on jags etc) and it is possible (after a couple of =
hours! Upside down under the car!) to free up the motor shaft. Then it =
took a couple more hours to strip brakes and setup. Try searching all =
the issues!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>So no thanks, =
most owners would prefer the 'old system'!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Regards =
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class=3DMsoNormal>_____________________________<br>From: Alan Seigrist =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent=
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Brake<br>To: Healey list &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>All - =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My BJ8 (and also my Jag Mk IX) both have rear disc =
brakes. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
was wondering if anyone has ever thought to install electronic parking =
brakes on their cars?&nbsp; Anyone with =
experience/thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
just got a Tesla BJ-S and I have to say I really like the electronic =
e-brake it has.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
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Question -

I think there are two types of electronic e-brakes.

The one for the Land rover is cable operated, yes?

I'm talking about the kind that the stepping motor is attached directly to
the caliper.  Seems like this kind would be much easier to install.

Best,

Alan

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:03 PM, John Rowe <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Totally agree with Andy. Don=E2=80=99t go there!!!
>
> spending the last day relining the handbrake, one side of which the linin=
gs
> had disappeared, I can relate to his frustration. Evidently badly adjuste=
d
a
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *an=
dy
> pole
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 May 2016 7:48 PM
> *To:* Alan Seigrist; Healey list
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Electronic Parking Brake
>
>
>
> Hi Alan
>
> My Range Rover sport lost the end from one of the motor driven cables and
> drive! A garage would just change the motor/ cable assembly costing =C2=
=A3500
> for parts and then have to strip and set up both sides. So 3 times the
> price with labour.
>
> I googled the issue (same system on jags etc) and it is possible (after a
> Then it took a couple more hours to strip brakes and setup. Try searching
> all the issues!
>
> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/vwm83r>. Yes, it works with
> gmail.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Question -<div><br></div><div>I think there are two types =
of electronic e-brakes. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The one for the Lan=
d rover is cable operated, yes? =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m tal=
king about the kind that the stepping motor is attached directly to the cal=
iper.=C2=A0 Seems like this kind would be much easier to install.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:0=
3 PM, John Rowe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
u" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-AU" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Totally agree with An=
dy. Don=E2=80=99t go there!!!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> As a Land Rover Discovery 4 owner which has t=
he same handbrake, after spending the last day relining the handbrake, one =
side of which the linings had disappeared, I can relate to his frustration.=
 Evidently badly adjusted at one time.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">As it is controlled by a computer, I =
cannot even contemplate what the archaic charging system on a Healey would =
do to that ($$$$$$).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:#1f497d"> I am just hoping that someone out there in Land Rover =
land has come with a manual conversion system like a Healey already has.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497=
d">John Rowe<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;col=
or:#1f497d">Queensland, Australia<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div s=
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m"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
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an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On=
 Behalf Of </b>andy pole<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 9 May 2016 7:48 PM<br><b>T=
o:</b> Alan Seigrist; Healey list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Electron=
ic Parking Brake<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Hi Alan<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Great till=
 they go wrong and cost 10x the amount of a cable system.<u></u><u></u></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My Range Rover sport lost the end from on=
e of the motor driven cables and this then pulled the cable in locking up t=
he motor. Impossible to then drive! A garage would just change the motor/ c=
able assembly costing =C2=A3500 for parts and then have to strip and set up=
 both sides. So 3 times the price with labour.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I googled the issue (same system on jags etc) and it=
 is possible (after a couple of hours! Upside down under the car!) to free =
up the motor shaft. Then it took a couple more hours to strip brakes and se=
tup. Try searching all the issues!<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">So no thanks, most owners would prefer the &#39;old system&#39;!=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt">Regards Andy=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sen=
t from <a href=3D"https://aka.ms/vwm83r" target=3D"_blank">Outlook Mobile</=
a>. Yes, it works with gmail.<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">__________=
___________________<br>From: Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Monday,=
 May 9, 2016 09:39<br>Subject: [Healeys] Electronic Parking Brake<br>To: He=
aley list &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">h=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">All - <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My BJ8 (and also my Jag =
Mk IX) both have rear disc brakes. =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>I was wondering if anyone has ever thought to install electronic parking b=
rakes on their cars?=C2=A0 Anyone with experience/thoughts?<u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">I just got a Tesla BJ-S and I have to say I really like =
the electronic e-brake it has.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best,<u></=
u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></=
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ter"><hr size=3D"1" width=3D"100%" noshade style=3D"color:#a0a0a0" align=3D=
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