Subject: Re: [Healeys] rear hub

From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 09:14:13 -0400

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I have replaced bearings in rear hubs a few times, maybe 4 different axles, & in all those cases the bearing spacer was proud of the hub without gasket by 4-8 thousands. The new gaskets were always too thick for these examples, so I made a new gasket out of regular bond paper (Approx 3-4 thousands thick). 
You might check the thicknesss of your bearing against other new bearings to see if that is the reason your spacer is flush with the hub. Also check the thickness of your spacer against other new spacers.
 
Gary Hodson
 
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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Jul 25, 2016 5:26 am
Subject: [Healeys] rear hub

All,

I am replacing the oil seal in one of the rear axle hubs in our '62 
tri-carb.  The workshop manual states that the bearing spacer (ATC7569) 
should sit proud of the hub and hub gasket 1 to 4 thousandths of an 
inch.  After installing a new seal and re-installing the R&M bearing, 
the spacer is flush with the hub.  The old gasket is 9 thousandths 
thick; the new one is 12 thou.  So, it looks like I need to make a 
thicker spacer.  Was a bit surprised to see that spacers with different 
thicknesses weren't listed in the parts list.  Am I missing something?

The O-ring I got from Moss has to be stretched to fit in the slot. 
Unless stretching the O-ring gives a necessary reduction in the 
thickness, I'm going to fit a larger O-ring. A 91 mm ID with 4 mm 
thickness fits well.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
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<div><font style="background-color: transparent;">I have replaced bearings in rear hubs a few times, maybe 4 different axles, &amp; in all those cases the bearing spacer was proud of the hub without gasket by 4-8 thousands. The new gaskets were always&nbsp;too thick for these examples, so I made a new gasket out of regular bond paper (Approx 3-4 thousands thick). </font></div>

<div>You might check the thicknesss of your bearing against other new bearings to see if that is the reason your spacer is flush with the hub. Also check the thickness of your spacer against other new spacers.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Gary Hodson</div>

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<div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Bob Haskell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Jul 25, 2016 5:26 am<br>
Subject: [Healeys] rear hub<br>
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All,<br>
<br>
I am replacing the oil seal in one of the rear axle hubs in our '62 <br>
tri-carb.  The workshop manual states that the bearing spacer (ATC7569) <br>
should sit proud of the hub and hub gasket 1 to 4 thousandths of an <br>
inch.  After installing a new seal and re-installing the R&amp;M bearing, <br>
the spacer is flush with the hub.  The old gasket is 9 thousandths <br>
thick; the new one is 12 thou.  So, it looks like I need to make a <br>
thicker spacer.  Was a bit surprised to see that spacers with different <br>
thicknesses weren't listed in the parts list.  Am I missing something?<br>
<br>
The O-ring I got from Moss has to be stretched to fit in the slot. <br>
Unless stretching the O-ring gives a necessary reduction in the <br>
thickness, I'm going to fit a larger O-ring. A 91 mm ID with 4 mm <br>
thickness fits well.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br>
<a href="http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php" target="_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br>
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:27:01 -0400

When I installed my rear bearings, I achieved the required 0.001 to 0.004
dimension by placing three or four 0.003 wheel bearing shims equally spaced
around the perimeter of the bearing hole in the hub with the new gasket
installed, then placed the spacer on top of the bearing and tapped the
spacer/bearing to seat it using a bar across the spacer.  The bar was
positioned to be stopped by the wheel bearing spacers, at which point the
bearing spacer was installed to the required height above the gasket. 

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob
Haskell
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 3:20 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] rear hub

All,

I am replacing the oil seal in one of the rear axle hubs in our '62
tri-carb.  The workshop manual states that the bearing spacer (ATC7569)
should sit proud of the hub and hub gasket 1 to 4 thousandths of an inch.
After installing a new seal and re-installing the R&M bearing, the spacer is
flush with the hub.  The old gasket is 9 thousandths thick; the new one is
12 thou.  So, it looks like I need to make a thicker spacer.  Was a bit
surprised to see that spacers with different thicknesses weren't listed in
the parts list.  Am I missing something?

The O-ring I got from Moss has to be stretched to fit in the slot. 
Unless stretching the O-ring gives a necessary reduction in the thickness,
I'm going to fit a larger O-ring. A 91 mm ID with 4 mm thickness fits well.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar

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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:11:20 -0400

Steve,

As I understand it, the purpose of the bearing spacer is to 
capture/squeeze the outer race of the bearing between the hub's shoulder 
and the spacer/axle; to prevent the outer race from spinning in the bore.

Have you rechecked the height of the spacer after putting everything 
together or after some driving time?  Just wondering if the bearing 
might shift inward reducing the height.

I guess that the spacer is also the first "seal" to prevent the rear 
axle's gear oil from reaching the brake shoes.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar

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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 19:16:34 -0400

No, Bob, I haven't checked it.  I haven't had any reason to take the rear
hubs apart since I put them together in February 2002 and about 60K miles
ago.  I suppose if a bearing isn't bottomed out in its hole then
theoretically it might move inward; but with everything buttoned up I don't
see any loads on the spacer/bearing to make it move inward.  Anyway, I don't
have any oil leaks.  I think the spacer's function is, as you say, to load
the outer race of the bearing to keep it from spinning and that function is
calculated to work with the specified dimensions, otherwise the instructions
would say to bottom out the bearing in its hole and the dimension would be
whatever it would be, since spacers are not of various thicknesses like
shims.
I don't believe the spacer would be very effective in preventing oil leaks
to the brake shoes.  

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Haskell [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 6:11 PM
To: BJ8Healeys; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] rear hub

Steve,

As I understand it, the purpose of the bearing spacer is to capture/squeeze
the outer race of the bearing between the hub's shoulder and the
spacer/axle; to prevent the outer race from spinning in the bore.

Have you rechecked the height of the spacer after putting everything
together or after some driving time?  Just wondering if the bearing might
shift inward reducing the height.

I guess that the spacer is also the first "seal" to prevent the rear axle's
gear oil from reaching the brake shoes.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar

[email-masked]

ox.team.net

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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 10:33:26 +0000 (UTC)

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HI All, 

Well I have all of my chrome cataloged, boxed, and ready to be re-plated. 

I would like to use a plater local to Massachusetts so that I can easily go there should I need to. 

I have been able to find the following four shops: 

Independent Plating 	35 New St. Worcester, Ma. 01605 	508-756-0301 
Chaby's Coatings 	19 Rayburn Dr., Millbury, Ma. 01527 	508-728-4590 
South Shore Plating Co. Inc. 	28 Forest Ave. Quincy, Ma. 02169 	617-773-8064 
American Electroplating Company 	355 Merrimack St. Lawrence, Ma. 01843 	978-682-2299 

Can anyone comment on any of these companies? Can someone recommend another shop? 

Thanks for your help! 

Dave 
64 BJ8 
72 XJ6 
72 Bonneville 

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e-plated. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I would like to use a plater local t=
o Massachusetts so that I can easily go there should I need to. <br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>I have been able to find the following four shops:<br></di=
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