Subject: Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:37:35 -0700

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 From a guy with (yet another) broken handle:

1) remove the valve from the block (you'll have to drain at least some 
of the coolant)

2) disassemble the valve (the ball valve is spring-loaded)

3) thoroughly clean corrosion and other residue from all parts (a stiff 
toothbrush and penetrating oil--like Kroil--should work well)

4) lubricate moving parts (the ball valve, mostly) with a good 
anti-seize grease (probably a good idea to lube the threads on the 
handle as well, in case you need to get a broken stub out)

Can't testify for a fact this will prevent (eventual) freezing-up of the 
valve, but it should help.

Bob

ps. Goes for the drain valve on the lower block, too.

pps.  AutoFarm has replacement handles, but I had no luck getting the 
old 'stub' out without significantly damaging the valve

On 7/16/2016 1:56 PM, Mike Garvey wrote:
>
> I have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the 
> heater valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater).
>
> My handle is not yet broken off.I can't get the valve closed with 
> reasonable force.Any hints or suggestions?
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
> Michael Garvey
> 1967 BJ8/38046
> Swampscott, MA
>
>

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    <p>From a guy with (yet another) broken handle:</p>
    <p>1) remove the valve from the block (you'll have to drain at least
      some of the coolant)</p>
    <p>2) disassemble the valve (the ball valve is spring-loaded)</p>
    <p>3) thoroughly clean corrosion and other residue from all parts (a
      stiff toothbrush and penetrating oil--like Kroil--should work
      well)<br>
    </p>
    <p>4) lubricate moving parts (the ball valve, mostly) with a good
      anti-seize grease (probably a good idea to lube the threads on the
      handle as well, in case you need to get a broken stub out)<br>
    </p>
    <p>Can't testify for a fact this will prevent (eventual) freezing-up
      of the valve, but it should help.</p>
    <p>Bob<br>
    </p>
    <p>ps. Goes for the drain valve on the lower block, too.</p>
    <p>pps.  AutoFarm has replacement handles, but I had no luck getting
      the old 'stub' out without significantly damaging the valve<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/16/2016 1:56 PM, Mike Garvey
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        <p class="MsoNormal">I have read in the archives about all the
          handles broken off the heater valve (controls coolant flow to
          the cockpit heater).<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">My handle is not yet broken off.<span
            style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>I can't get the valve
          closed with reasonable force.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> 
          </span>Any hints or suggestions?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">Michael Garvey<br>
            1967 BJ8/38046<br>
            Swampscott, MA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Hi Mike,
Th valve that you are working with is actually a "taper plug" valve.
I just freed up 2 of them this morning for the 100 engine that I'm building.
I have found that a gentle tap on the small shaft that extends below the
spring is usually enough to loosen the taper and free up the valve.
Don't hit it too hard or you will damage the brass shaft.
If that doesn't work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then the
washer then the spring. That will expose the end of the taper which when
tapped with a hollow punch will drop out.
Michael S
BN1 #174

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the heater
> valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater).
>
> My handle is not yet broken off.  I can't get the valve closed with
> reasonable force.  Any hints or suggestions?
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
>
>
> Michael Garvey
> 1967 BJ8/38046
> Swampscott, MA
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Mike,<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Th val=
ve that you are working with is actually a &quot;taper plug&quot; valve. <b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">I just freed up 2 of them this morning for the 100=
 engine that I&#39;m building.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have found that=
 a gentle tap on the small shaft that extends below the spring is usually e=
nough to loosen the taper and free up the valve.<br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">=
Don&#39;t hit it too hard or you will damage the brass shaft. <br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:small">If that doesn&#39;t work you have to remove the split (cotter=
) pin, then the washer then the spring. That will expose the end of the tap=
er which when tapped with a hollow punch will drop out. <br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size=
:small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at =
4:56 PM, Mike Garvey <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r3m1g4@verizon=
.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockq=
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solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US">=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have read in the archives about all the handl=
es broken off the heater valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater=
).<span>=C2=A0 </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My handle is=
 not yet broken off.<span>=C2=A0 </span>I can&#39;t get the valve closed wi=
th reasonable force.<span>=C2=A0 </span>Any hints or suggestions?<u></u><u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks, Mike<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Michael Garve=
y<br>1967 BJ8/38046<br>Swampscott, MA<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div><br>_________________________=
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As I recall (memory disclaimer), the valve has a taper. Try gently =
tapping it with a hammer on the end opposite the handle. I had the same =
fear and this freed the valve on my tricarb.

Al Malin

> On Jul 16, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the =
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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(memory disclaimer), the valve has a taper. Try gently tapping it with a =
hammer on the end opposite the handle. I had the same fear and this =
freed the valve on my tricarb.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Al Malin</div><div class=3D""><br =
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the heater valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit =
heater).&nbsp;&nbsp;<br class=3D"">My handle is not yet broken =
off.&nbsp;&nbsp;I can't get the valve closed with reasonable =
force.&nbsp;&nbsp;Any hints or suggestions?<br class=3D"">Thanks, =
Mike<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Michael Garvey<br class=3D"">1967 =
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And don't forget to get a replacement gasket for it when you end up replacin=
g it , when I removed mine I used steel wool to polish all the pieces , befo=
re reassemble . And because it's hard to replace the handle , I just unscrew=
 the whole thing from the block ,=20
    Don , 67 BJ-8=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =46rom a guy with (yet another) broken handle:
>=20
> 1) remove the valve from the block (you'll have to drain at least some of t=
he coolant)
> 3) thoroughly clean corrosion and other residue from all parts (a stiff to=
othbrush and penetrating oil--like Kroil--should work well)
> 4) lubricate moving parts (the ball valve, mostly) with a good anti-seize g=
rease (probably a good idea to lube the threads on the handle as well, in ca=
se you need to get a broken stub out)
> Can't testify for a fact this will prevent (eventual) freezing-up of the v=
alve, but it should help.
> pps.  AutoFarm has replacement handles, but I had no luck getting the old '=
stub' out without significantly damaging the valve
>> I have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the heater v=
alve (controls coolant flow to           the cockpit heater).=20
>> My handle is not yet broken off.  I can't get the valve closed with reaso=
nable force.  Any hints or suggestions?
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fsufan19=
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    <p>pps.&nbsp; AutoFarm has replacement handles, but I had no luck getting
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          the cockpit heater).<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">My handle is not yet broken off.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>I can't get the valve
          closed with reasonable force.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
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Regarding the valves issue, see attached. Written for our local club after
I'd had the same trouble. May be on John's site....can't recall. Don't look
at it if you seen it before!....I do tend to send it out every time this
crops up.

Simon

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Al Malin
Sent: 17 July 2016 19:14
To: Mike Garvey; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

As I recall (memory disclaimer), the valve has a taper. Try gently tapping
it with a hammer on the end opposite the handle. I had the same fear and
this freed the valve on my tricarb.

Al Malin

 
Michael Garvey
1967 BJ8/38046
Swampscott, MA

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site....can&#8217;t recall. Don&#8217;t look at it if you seen it =
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</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Al =
Malin<br><b>Sent:</b> 17 July 2016 19:14<br><b>To:</b> Mike Garvey; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater =
Valve<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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with a hammer on the end opposite the handle. I had the same fear and =
this freed the valve on my tricarb.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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heater).&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>My handle is not yet broken off.&nbsp;&nbsp;I =
can't get the valve closed with reasonable force.&nbsp;&nbsp;Any hints =
or suggestions?<br>Thanks, Mike<br>&nbsp;<br>Michael Garvey<br>1967 =
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Mike:  In case you have not already solved the problem - a little trick =
courtesy of friend Bill Bolton in Oregon many years ago:

Try tapping the back end of the valve with a hammer - lightly at first.  =
You are trying to unseat the valve itself from the valve body by jarring =
the inner part to break the corrosion on the seat =E2=80=93 it=E2=80=99s =
a simple tapered fit in the body.  This will momentarily slightly =
compress the spring that holds the bits together.  This has always =
worked for me.  Just about anything else one can try will likely break =
the handle off, or damage the assembly in some other way.

This little fix also works for the block coolant drain valve, and the =
(stock) radiator drain valve.=20

Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb

From: Mike Garvey=20
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:56 PM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

I have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the heater =
valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater). =20

Thanks, Mike

=20

Michael Garvey
1967 BJ8/38046
Swampscott, MA

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<DIV>Mike:&nbsp; In case you have not already solved the problem - a =
little=20
trick courtesy of friend Bill Bolton in Oregon many years ago:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Try tapping the back end of the valve with a hammer - lightly at=20
first.&nbsp; You are trying to unseat the valve itself from the valve =
body by=20
jarring the inner part to break the corrosion on the seat =E2=80=93 =
it=E2=80=99s a simple=20
tapered fit in the body.&nbsp; This will momentarily slightly compress =
the=20
spring that holds the bits together.&nbsp; This has always worked for =
me.&nbsp;=20
Just about anything else one can try will likely break the handle off, =
or damage=20
the assembly in some other way.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This little fix also works for the block coolant drain valve, and =
the=20
(stock) radiator drain valve. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
#141100">Earl=20
Kagna<BR>Victoria, B.C.<BR>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Mike Garvey</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>I have read in the archives about all the handles =
broken off=20
the heater valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater).<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>My handle is not yet broken off.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I can't get the valve closed =
with=20
reasonable force.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Any =
hints or=20
suggestions?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks, Mike<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
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Garvey<BR>1967 BJ8/38046<BR>Swampscott, MA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:57:55 +1000

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G=E2=80=99day

=20

Which reminds me!

=20

In the process of getting the Healey Duncan going I disassembled, =
cleaned and polished the brass =E2=80=98tapered plug=E2=80=99 drain tap =
and it looked very pretty against the gloss black of the engine. One =
problem is that it didn=E2=80=99t seal!

=20

So out it came and with much physical action with a cloth and Brasso the =
tapered joins were polished. Then when assembling it received the gentle =
hammer treatment in the hope that it would seal. It didn=E2=80=99t!

=20

In the end I removed the tap from the BN3=E2=80=99s engine and used that =
which worked perfectly.

=20

The tap fitted to the Healey engine is more ornate that fitted to the =
Austin-Healey but apart from more work with Brasso I=E2=80=99m at a loss =
at what to do.

=20

Thanks

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM
To: Mike Garvey
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

=20

Hi Mike,

Th valve that you are working with is actually a "taper plug" valve.=20

I just freed up 2 of them this morning for the 100 engine that I'm =
building.

I have found that a gentle tap on the small shaft that extends below the =
spring is usually enough to loosen the taper and free up the valve.

Don't hit it too hard or you will damage the brass shaft.=20

If that doesn't work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then the =
washer then the spring. That will expose the end of the taper which when =
tapped with a hollow punch will drop out.=20

Michael S

BN1 #174

=20

Thanks, Mike

=20

Michael Garvey
1967 BJ8/38046

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>G=E2=80=99day<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Which reminds =
me!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>In the process of =
getting the Healey Duncan going I disassembled, cleaned and polished the =
brass =E2=80=98tapered plug=E2=80=99 drain tap and it looked very pretty =
against the gloss black of the engine. One problem is that it =
didn=E2=80=99t seal!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>So out it came and =
with much physical action with a cloth and Brasso the tapered joins were =
polished. Then when assembling it received the gentle hammer treatment =
in the hope that it would seal. It =
didn=E2=80=99t!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>In the end I removed =
the tap from the BN3=E2=80=99s engine and used that which worked =
perfectly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>The tap fitted to the =
Healey engine is more ornate that fitted to the Austin-Healey but apart =
from more work with Brasso I=E2=80=99m at a loss at what to =
do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Blue Mountains, =
Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael =
Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mike =
Garvey<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Hi =
Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Th valve that you are working with =
is actually a &quot;taper plug&quot; valve. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I just freed up 2 of them this =
morning for the 100 engine that I'm =
building.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I have found that a gentle tap on =
the small shaft that extends below the spring is usually enough to =
loosen the taper and free up the =
valve.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Don't hit it too hard or you will =
damage the brass shaft. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>If that =
doesn't work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then the washer =
then the spring. That will expose the end of the taper which when tapped =
with a hollow punch will drop out. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Michael =
S<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>BN1 =
#174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, =
Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>I have read in the archives about all the handles broken =
off the heater valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit =
heater).&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>My handle is not yet broken off.&nbsp; I can't get the =
valve closed with reasonable force.&nbsp; Any hints or =
suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Thanks, Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Michael Garvey<br>1967 =
BJ8/38046<br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></bo=
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:36:31 +1000

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...you probably need something a bit more abrasive to lap the 2 together =
=E2=80=93 I used Solvol chrome polish. Coat the taper with Solvol & lap =
into body of tap.

Cheers

Peter

From: Patrick & Caroline Quinn=20
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:57 AM
To: 'Michael Salter'=20
Cc: mailto:[email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

G=E2=80=99day

=20

Which reminds me!

=20

=20

=20

=20

=20

Thanks

=20

Patrick Quinn

=20

=20

Hi Mike,

Michael S

BN1 #174

=20

Thanks, Mike

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Michael Garvey
1967 BJ8/38046

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<DIV>...you probably need something a bit more abrasive to lap the 2 =
together =E2=80=93=20
I used Solvol chrome polish. Coat the taper with Solvol &amp; lap into =
body of=20
tap.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Peter</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 18, 2016 8:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'Michael Salter'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater =
Valve</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">G=E2=80=99day<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Which reminds=20
me!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In the process of =
getting the=20
Healey Duncan going I disassembled, cleaned and polished the brass =
=E2=80=98tapered=20
plug=E2=80=99 drain tap and it looked very pretty against the gloss =
black of the engine.=20
One problem is that it didn=E2=80=99t seal!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">So out it came and =
with much=20
physical action with a cloth and Brasso the tapered joins were polished. =
Then=20
when assembling it received the gentle hammer treatment in the hope that =
it=20
would seal. It didn=E2=80=99t!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In the end I =
removed the tap=20
from the BN3=E2=80=99s engine and used that which worked=20
perfectly.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The tap fitted to =
the Healey=20
engine is more ornate that fitted to the Austin-Healey but apart from =
more work=20
with Brasso I=E2=80=99m at a loss at what to do.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Patrick=20
Quinn<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Blue Mountains,=20
Australia<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys=20
[mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael=20
Salter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Mike=20
Garvey<BR><B>Cc:</B> [email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Healeys] JB8=20
Stuck Heater Valve<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>Hi=20
Mike,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>Th =
valve that you=20
are working with is actually a "taper plug" valve. =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>I just =
freed up 2=20
of them this morning for the 100 engine that I'm=20
building.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>I have =
found that=20
a gentle tap on the small shaft that extends below the spring is usually =
enough=20
to loosen the taper and free up the valve.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>Don't =
hit it too=20
hard or you will damage the brass shaft. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>If =
that doesn't=20
work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then the washer then the =
spring.=20
That will expose the end of the taper which when tapped with a hollow =
punch will=20
drop out. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'>Michael=20
S<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>BN1=20
#174<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey &lt;<A =

href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-US>I=20
have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the heater =
valve=20
(controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater).&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US>My handle is not yet broken off.&nbsp; I can't get the =
valve closed=20
with reasonable force.&nbsp; Any hints or =
suggestions?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US>Thanks, Mike<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Would it work to lap the parts together like valves against the seat?

Mike

On 7/17/2016 3:57 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote:
>
> G’day
>
> Which reminds me!
>
> In the process of getting the Healey Duncan going I disassembled, 
> cleaned and polished the brass ‘tapered plug’ drain tap and it looked 
> very pretty against the gloss black of the engine. One problem is that 
> it didn’t seal!
>
> So out it came and with much physical action with a cloth and Brasso 
> the tapered joins were polished. Then when assembling it received the 
> gentle hammer treatment in the hope that it would seal. It didn’t!
>
> In the end I removed the tap from the BN3’s engine and used that which 
> worked perfectly.
>
> The tap fitted to the Healey engine is more ornate that fitted to the 
> Austin-Healey but apart from more work with Brasso I’m at a loss at 
> what to do.
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Michael Salter
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM
> *To:* Mike Garvey
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I have found that a gentle tap on the small shaft that extends below 
> the spring is usually enough to loosen the taper and free up the valve.
>
> If that doesn't work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then 
> the washer then the spring. That will expose the end of the taper 
> which when tapped with a hollow punch will drop out.
>
> Michael S
>
> BN1 #174
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey <[email-masked] 
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
>

-- 
Mike

MGTD (long gone)
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    <p>Would it work to lap the parts together like valves against the
      seat?</p>
    <p>Mike<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/17/2016 3:57 PM, Patrick &amp;
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">G’day<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Which
            reminds me!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">In the
            process of getting the Healey Duncan going I disassembled,
            cleaned and polished the brass ‘tapered plug’ drain tap and
            it looked very pretty against the gloss black of the engine.
            One problem is that it didn’t seal!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">So out it
            came and with much physical action with a cloth and Brasso
            the tapered joins were polished. Then when assembling it
            received the gentle hammer treatment in the hope that it
            would seal. It didn’t!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">In the end I
            removed the tap from the BN3’s engine and used that which
            worked perfectly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">The tap
            fitted to the Healey engine is more ornate that fitted to
            the Austin-Healey but apart from more work with Brasso I’m
            at a loss at what to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Patrick
            Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Blue
            Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US"> Healeys
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael
            Salter<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Mike Garvey<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">Th valve that you are working with is
                actually a "taper plug" valve. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">I just freed up 2 of them this morning
                for the 100 engine that I'm building.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">I have found that a gentle tap on the
                small shaft that extends below the spring is usually
                enough to loosen the taper and free up the valve.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">Don't hit it too hard or you will damage
                the brass shaft. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">If that doesn't work you have to remove
                the split (cotter) pin, then the washer then the spring.
                That will expose the end of the taper which when tapped
                with a hollow punch will drop out. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">Michael S<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">BN1 #174<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike
              Garvey &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US">I have read in the archives about all
                    the handles broken off the heater valve (controls
                    coolant flow to the cockpit heater).  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US">My handle is not yet broken off.  I
                    can't get the valve closed with reasonable force. 
                    Any hints or suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US">Thanks, Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US">Michael Garvey<br>
                    1967 BJ8/38046<br>
                    <br>
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Valve grinding paste.
Just like seating a valve.=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 8:57 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>=20
> G=E2=80=99day
> =20
> Which reminds me!
> =20
> In the process of getting the Healey Duncan going I disassembled, cleaned a=
nd polished the brass =E2=80=98tapered plug=E2=80=99 drain tap and it looked=
 very pretty against the gloss black of the engine. One problem is that it d=
idn=E2=80=99t seal!
> =20
> So out it came and with much physical action with a cloth and Brasso the t=
apered joins were polished. Then when assembling it received the gentle hamm=
er treatment in the hope that it would seal. It didn=E2=80=99t!
> =20
> In the end I removed the tap from the BN3=E2=80=99s engine and used that w=
hich worked perfectly.
> =20
> The tap fitted to the Healey engine is more ornate that fitted to the Aust=
in-Healey but apart from more work with Brasso I=E2=80=99m at a loss at what=
 to do.
> From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Michael=
 Salter
> I just freed up 2 of them this morning for the 100 engine that I'm buildin=
g.
> I have found that a gentle tap on the small shaft that extends below the s=
pring is usually enough to loosen the taper and free up the valve.
> If that doesn't work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then the w=
asher then the spring. That will expose the end of the taper which when tapp=
ed with a hollow punch will drop out.
> I have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the heater va=
lve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater).=20
> My handle is not yet broken off.  I can't get the valve closed with reason=
able force.  Any hints or suggestions?
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.h=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">G=E2=80=99day<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Which remin=
ds me!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt">In the process of getting the Healey Duncan going I disassem=
bled, cleaned and polished the brass =E2=80=98tapered plug=E2=80=99 drain ta=
p and it looked very pretty against the gloss black of the engine. One probl=
em is that it didn=E2=80=99t seal!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">So out it came and with much phy=
sical action with a cloth and Brasso the tapered joins were polished. Then w=
hen assembling it received the gentle hammer treatment in the hope that it w=
ould seal. It didn=E2=80=99t!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">In the end I removed the tap from the=
 BN3=E2=80=99s engine and used that which worked perfectly.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">The tap=
 fitted to the Healey engine is more ornate that fitted to the Austin-Healey=
 but apart from more work with Brasso I=E2=80=99m at a loss at what to do.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Blue Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:<=
/span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-boun=
[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf O=
f </b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM<br><b>To:<=
/b> Mike Garvey<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heal=
[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Val=
ve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot=
;">Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Th valve that you are working w=
ith is actually a "taper plug" valve. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">I ju=
st freed up 2 of them this morning for the 100 engine that I'm building.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">I have found that a gentle tap on the small sh=
aft that extends below the spring is usually enough to loosen the taper and f=
ree up the valve.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Don't hit it too hard or y=
ou will damage the brass shaft. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">If that do=
esn't work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then the washer then t=
he spring. That will expose the end of the taper which when tapped with a ho=
llow punch will drop out. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Michael S<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">BN1 #174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat=
, Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r3m1g4@verizon.=
net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bott=
om-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I have read in the archives about all the h=
andles broken off the heater valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit hea=
ter).&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin=
-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-US">My handle is n=
ot yet broken off.&nbsp; I can't get the valve closed with reasonable force.=
&nbsp; Any hints or suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"=
EN-US">Thanks, Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso=
-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:aut=
o;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Michael Garvey<br>1967 BJ=
8/38046<br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></b=
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From: "John Sims" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:39:08 -0400

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Its on there at:

 <http://www.healey6.com/Technical/valve.pdf>
http://www.healey6.com/Technical/valve.pdf

Thanks again, Simon

John Sims

Aberdeen, NJ

www.healey6.com

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Simon
Lachlan
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 5:41 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

Simon

Al Malin

 
Michael Garvey
1967 BJ8/38046
Swampscott, MA

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>Its on there at:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://www.healey6.com/Technical/valve.pdf"><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>http://www.healey6.com/Technical/valve.pdf</span></a=
><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>Thanks again, Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>John Sims<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>Aberdeen, NJ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>www.healey6.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Simon Lachlan<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 17, 2016 5:41 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
JB8 Stuck Heater Valve<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Regarding the valves issue, see attached. Written for our local club =
after I&#8217;d had the same trouble. May be on John&#8217;s =
site....can&#8217;t recall. Don&#8217;t look at it if you seen it =
before!....I do tend to send it out every time this crops =
up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Al Malin<br><b>Sent:</b> 17 July =
2016 19:14<br><b>To:</b> Mike Garvey; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater =
Valve<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>As I recall (memory disclaimer), the valve has a taper. Try =
gently tapping it with a hammer on the end opposite the handle. I had =
the same fear and this freed the valve on my =
tricarb.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Al =
Malin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><img border=3D0 width=3D300 =
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src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>On Jul 16, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br>I have read in the archives about all the handles broken =
off the heater valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit =
heater).&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>My handle is not yet broken off.&nbsp;&nbsp;I =
can't get the valve closed with reasonable force.&nbsp;&nbsp;Any hints =
or suggestions?<br>Thanks, Mike<br>&nbsp;<br>Michael Garvey<br>1967 =
BJ8/38046<br>Swampscott, MA<br>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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