Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000???

From: Oudesluys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 09:56:19 +0200

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Revotec should have a bespoke set for your car. Just check their 
website: www.revotec.com/acatalog/Austin-Healey-Tailormade-Cooling-Kits.html
There are other manufacturers as well: Ebay or Google.
If it is getting hot idling or in stop and go traffic only, go for a 
thermostatically controlled electric fan. Choose the switching 
temperatures according to the opening temperature of the thermostat, 
switching off temp should be 5-10°C above the opening temp of the 
thermostat, if it is lower the fan will run almost continuously, 
switching on temp can be as high as 100°C but usually something like 
95°C is choosen. There are thousands of different thermoswitches to 
choose from.
In normal operating conditions the engine temp should be  slightly above 
the opening temp of the thermostat
If it is getting hot at speed or normal driving check if the thermostat 
is working and of the OE sleeve variety,  check the ignition timing and 
mixture settings as these are often a cause for overheating.
However check your cooling system first. Clean out your cooling system 
using one of the propriety flush agents and fill up with proper coolant 
(NOT red/purple but green/blue stuff). Make sure you radiator is clean 
inside and out. If the radiator is partially blocked internally have it 
rebuild with a core with extra cooling capacity.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 5-8-2016 om 1:38 schreef randy dickson:
>
> Fellow Healeyoids,  My 1963 BJ7 is getting very hot this summer.  I 
> currently have a Texas cooler and need something more.  What kind of 
> electric fan will work? Name and part number.  I would like a thermos 
> controlled fan. Thanks!
>
> Randy
>
> 1963 BJ7
>
> 1960 BT7
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Revotec should have a bespoke set for
      your car. Just check their website:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.revotec.com/acatalog/Austin-Healey-Tailormade-Cooling-Kits.html">www.revotec.com/acatalog/Austin-Healey-Tailormade-Cooling-Kits.html</a><br>
      There are other manufacturers as well: Ebay or Google.<br>
      If it is getting hot idling or in stop and go traffic only, go for
      a thermostatically controlled electric fan. Choose the switching
      temperatures according to the opening temperature of the
      thermostat, switching off temp should be 5-10°C above the opening
      temp of the thermostat, if it is lower the fan will run almost
      continuously, switching on temp can be as high as 100°C but
      usually something like 95°C is choosen. There are thousands of
      different thermoswitches to choose from.<br>
      In normal operating conditions the engine temp should be  slightly
      above the opening temp of the thermostat<br>
      If it is getting hot at speed or normal driving check if the
      thermostat is working and of the OE sleeve variety,  check the
      ignition timing and mixture settings as these are often a cause
      for overheating. <br>
      However check your cooling system first. Clean out your cooling
      system using one of the propriety flush agents and fill up with
      proper coolant (NOT red/purple but green/blue stuff). Make sure
      you radiator is clean inside and out. If the radiator is partially
      blocked internally have it rebuild with a core with extra cooling
      capacity.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      Op 5-8-2016 om 1:38 schreef randy dickson:<br>
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          Name and part number.  I would like a thermos controlled fan. 
          Thanks!</p>
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Randy,

first of all I would recommend to search for the reason, why your BJ7 is
getting a lot more hot recently. 

I had a similar problem with my 100 some years ago. After almost 10 years
driving around without any overheating, even when being stuck in traffic jam
in Vienna with 30 deg C outside or driving up the Austrian mountains in
summertime. The temperature gauge never showed anything more than 180 deg F
(app 85 deg C). Maybe the louvred bonnet did help too.

Then all of a sudden my 100 started with overheating problems, went that
hot, that the engine began to sputter and later quit working and only could
be restarted after cooling down. This happened in slow traffic and in the
mountains. 

I checked and fixed one thing after the other: carbs, ignition, radiator,
head and exhaust gasket, water pump, thermostat, ... I even exchanged the
complete exhaust system just to be sure that there is no problem coming from
this point. 

Throughout all this my mechanic always told me to install an electric fan
and all problems would be gone. The only concession I made is a six blade
fan, which did help a little, but did not cure the problem.

During one last drive I heard some noise and we found out that it came from
a main bearing which destroyed the crankshaft. And while the engine is out
he could search for the real cause for the overheating and found out that it
came from the rocker gear.

Conclusion:

Starting with no problems and then from one point having a lot of
difficulties made me oppose to install an electric fan and rather search for
the real cause. My experience is that in the climate zone I live in my 100
should run without, except if you race your car.

Good luck

Reinhart

Reinhart Rosner

55 100 BN 1

Vienna - Austria

Von: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] Im Auftrag von randy
dickson
Gesendet: Freitag, 05. August 2016 01:39
An: [email-masked]
Betreff: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000???

Randy

1963 BJ7

1960 BT7

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class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Randy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>first of =
all I would recommend to search for the reason, why your BJ7 is getting =
a lot more hot recently. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I had a =
similar problem with my 100 some years ago. After almost 10 years =
driving around without any overheating, even when being stuck in traffic =
jam in Vienna with 30 deg C outside or driving up the Austrian mountains =
in summertime.</span><span lang=3DEN-GB> </span><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The temperature gauge never showed anything more =
than 180 deg F (app 85 deg C). Maybe the louvred bonnet did help =
too.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Then all of =
a sudden my 100 started with overheating problems, went that hot, that =
the engine began to sputter and later quit working and only could be =
restarted after cooling down. This happened in slow traffic and in the =
mountains. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I checked =
and fixed one thing after the other: carbs, ignition, radiator, head and =
exhaust gasket, water pump, thermostat, ... I even exchanged the =
complete exhaust system just to be sure that there is no problem coming =
from this point. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Throughout =
all this my mechanic always told me to install an electric fan and all =
problems would be gone. The only concession I made is a six blade fan, =
which did help a little, but did not cure the =
problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>During one =
last drive I heard some noise and we found out that it came from a main =
bearing which destroyed the crankshaft. And while the engine is out he =
could search for the real cause for the overheating and found out that =
it came from the rocker gear.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Conclusion:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Starting =
with no problems and then from one point having a lot of difficulties =
made me oppose to install an electric fan and rather search for the real =
cause. My experience is that in the climate zone I live in my 100 should =
run without, except if you race your car.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Good =
luck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Reinhart<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Reinhart =
Rosner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>55 100 BN 1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Vienna - =
Austria<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>Im Auftrag von =
</b>randy dicks</span><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>on<br><b>Ges=
endet:</b> Freitag, 05. August 2016 01:39<br><b>An:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Betreff:</b> [Healeys] electric fan for =
3000???<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Fellow Healeyoids,&nbsp; My 1963 BJ7 is getting very hot =
this summer.&nbsp; I currently have a Texas cooler and need something =
more.&nbsp; What kind of electric fan will work?&nbsp; Name and part =
number.&nbsp; I would like a thermos controlled fan.&nbsp; =
Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Randy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>1963 BJ7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>1960 BT7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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What's a rocker gear? 

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From: "Reinhart Rosner" <[email-masked]> 
To: "randy dickson" <[email-masked]>, "healeys" <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:58:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000??? 

Randy, 

first of all I would recommend to search for the reason, why your BJ7 is getting a lot more hot recently. 

I had a similar problem with my 100 some years ago. After almost 10 years driving around without any overheating, even when being stuck in traffic jam in Vienna with 30 deg C outside or driving up the Austrian mountains in summertime. The temperature gauge never showed anything more than 180 deg F (app 85 deg C). Maybe the louvred bonnet did help too. 

Then all of a sudden my 100 started with overheating problems, went that hot, that the engine began to sputter and later quit working and only could be restarted after cooling down. This happened in slow traffic and in the mountains. 

I checked and fixed one thing after the other: carbs, ignition, radiator, head and exhaust gasket, water pump, thermostat, ... I even exchanged the complete exhaust system just to be sure that there is no problem coming from this point. 

Throughout all this my mechanic always told me to install an electric fan and all problems would be gone. The only concession I made is a six blade fan, which did help a little, but did not cure the problem. 

During one last drive I heard some noise and we found out that it came from a main bearing which destroyed the crankshaft. And while the engine is out he could search for the real cause for the overheating and found out that it came from the rocker gear. 

Conclusion: 

Starting with no problems and then from one point having a lot of difficulties made me oppose to install an electric fan and rather search for the real cause. My experience is that in the climate zone I live in my 100 should run without, except if you race your car. 

Good luck 

Reinhart 

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span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D=
" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">first of all I would recommend to sear=
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</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" dat=
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an lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;=
">I had a similar problem with my 100 some years ago. After almost 10 years=
 driving around without any overheating, even when being stuck in traffic j=
am in Vienna with 30 deg C outside or driving up the Austrian mountains in =
summertime.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=
=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">The temperature gauge=
 never showed anything more than 180 deg F (app 85 deg C). Maybe the louvre=
d bonnet did help too.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB=
" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data=
-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Then all of a sudden my 100 started with ove=
rheating problems, went that hot, that the engine began to sputter and late=
r quit working and only could be restarted after cooling down. This happene=
d in slow traffic and in the mountains. </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497=
d;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"c=
olor:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">I checked and fixed one th=
ing after the other: carbs, ignition, radiator, head and exhaust gasket, wa=
ter pump, thermostat, ... I even exchanged the complete exhaust system just=
 to be sure that there is no problem coming from this point. </span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-s=
tyle=3D"color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Throu=
ghout all this my mechanic always told me to install an electric fan and al=
l problems would be gone. The only concession I made is a six blade fan, wh=
ich did help a little, but did not cure the problem.</span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"c=
olor: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB=
" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">During one las=
t drive I heard some noise and we found out that it came from a main bearin=
g which destroyed the crankshaft. And while the engine is out he could sear=
ch for the real cause for the overheating and found out that it came from t=
he rocker gear.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=
=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-st=
yle=3D"color: #1f497d;">Conclusion:</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">S=
tarting with no problems and then from one point having a lot of difficulti=
es made me oppose to install an electric fan and rather search for the real=
 cause. My experience is that in the climate zone I live in my 100 should r=
un without, except if you race your car.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497=
d;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"c=
olor:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Good luck</span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-styl=
e=3D"color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Reinhart=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F49=
7D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #=
1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=
=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-style=3D"color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D" data-mce-st=
yle=3D"color: #1f497d;"></span></p></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></di=
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