Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

From: Derek Job <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:39:16 +0100

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I seem to remember this coming up many years ago.

The best definitions seem to be that the early Healeys are roadsters
whereas the BJ7 and BJ8 are convertibles, which are also often referred to
as 'drop head coupes' in the world of Jaguars etc.

Derek

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:43 AM, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

> A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and roll
> up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a removab=
le
> hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled at the need
> (desire?) to change everything. IMHO.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Doug
>
>
> Bob
> That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car?
> Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit
> that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as
> roadsters I've never thought about it.
>
> Best regards, Per
>
> Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad
>
> 26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>:
>
> So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely
> fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, just
> like my dad's Model A.
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> Gents
> I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle
> that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case =
is
> with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removabl=
e,
> and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this and
> you will get the terms right.
>
> Best regards, Per
>
> Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I seem to remember this coming up many years ago.=C2=A0<di=
v><br></div><div>The best definitions seem to be that the early Healeys are=
 roadsters whereas the BJ7 and BJ8 are convertibles, which are also often r=
eferred to as &#39;drop head coupes&#39; in the world of Jaguars etc.=C2=A0=
</div><div><br></div><div>Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:43 AM, <a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>A convertible has a retractib=
le hood that is affixed to the car and roll up windows. A roadster (which h=
ardly ever has the top up!!) has a removable hood, stowed in the rear, with=
 side curtains. I am befuddled at the need (desire?) to change everything. =
IMHO.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Doug=C2=A0<br><br><br></div><span class=3D"">
<div>Bob</div>
<div>That&#39;s too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the=
 car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn&#39;t grow on trees over here=
. Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as=
 roadsters I&#39;ve never thought about it.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Best regards, Per<br><br>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div>
<div><br>26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bsp=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><br><=
/div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000">
<div>So what is a BN2?=C2=A0 It has an erectable hood, and it&#39;s most de=
finitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?=C2=A0 I always considered it a road=
ster, just like my dad&#39;s Model A.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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<div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decorati=
on:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
Gents<br>I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a v=
ehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the =
case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is re=
movable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on th=
is and you will get the terms right.<br>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
Best regards, Per<br>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<br>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:54:28 +0000 (UTC)

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Maybe the 'drop heads' are 'cabriolets?'=20

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...=20

----- Original Message -----

I seem to remember this coming up many years ago.=20

The best definitions seem to be that the early Healeys are roadsters wherea=
s the BJ7 and BJ8 are convertibles, which are also often referred to as 'dr=
op head coupes' in the world of Jaguars etc.=20

Derek=20

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:43 AM, [email-masked] < [email-masked] > wro=
te:=20

A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and roll up=
 windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a removable h=
ood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled at the need (de=
sire?) to change everything. IMHO.=20
Cheers,=20
Doug=20

Bob=20
That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car? Sor=
ry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit that =
there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as roadsters I'=
ve never thought about it.=20
Best regards, Per=20

Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad=20

26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell < [email-masked] >:=20

<blockquote>

So what is a BN2? It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely fixed =
to the car (by 6 bolts)? I always considered it a roadster, just like my da=
d's Model A.=20

Gents=20
I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle th=
at has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case is w=
ith BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removable, =
and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this and yo=
u will get the terms right.=20
Best regards, Per=20
Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>Maybe the 'drop heads' are 'cabriolets?'</div><div><br></div><div>=
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"=
color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-f=
amily:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b></b><br><div><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">I seem to remember this coming up many years ago.&nbsp;<d=
iv><br></div><div>The best definitions seem to be that the early Healeys ar=
e roadsters whereas the BJ7 and BJ8 are convertibles, which are also often =
referred to as 'drop head coupes' in the world of Jaguars etc.&nbsp;</div><=
div><br></div><div>Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:43 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:dwfl=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>A convertible has =
a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and roll up windows. A roadst=
er (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a removable hood, stowed in the=
 rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled at the need (desire?) to change e=
verything. IMHO.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Doug&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><br></div><span class=3D"">
<div>Bob</div>
<div>That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car=
? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit =
that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as roadste=
rs I've never thought about it.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Best regards, Per<br><div><br></div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div>
<div><br>26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bsp=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><div>=
<br></div></div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000">
<div>So what is a BN2?&nbsp; It has an erectable hood, and it's most defini=
tely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?&nbsp; I always considered it a roadster=
, just like my dad's Model A.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<hr>
<div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decorati=
on:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Gents<br>I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a v=
ehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the =
case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is re=
movable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on th=
is and you will get the terms right.<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Best regards, Per<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>

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From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:11:57 -0700

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Long ago, someone told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have been =
calling it that ever since.  My California registration certificate =
lists the Body Type Model as "RD" (roadster?).  Here is what my BL =
Heritage certificate says:

"Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August concerning your Austin-Healey =
3000 Mark III convertible".

(Note that Austin-Healey has the hyphen.  I'm talking August, 1982, =
here)

(The Other) Len
Fairfield, CA, USA
1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: [email-masked]=20
  To: [email-masked]=20
  Cc: [email-masked]=20
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 4:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

  A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and =
roll up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a =
removable hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled =
at the need (desire?) to change everything. IMHO.

  Cheers,

  Doug=20

  Bob
  That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the =
car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. =
Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them =
as roadsters I've never thought about it.

  Best regards, Per

  Skickat fr=E5n min iPad

    So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most =
definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a =
roadster, just like my dad's Model A.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---

    Gents
    I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a =
vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like =
the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the =
top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple =
Googling on this and you will get the terms right.

    Best regards, Per

    Skickat fr=E5n min iPad

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<DIV>Long ago, someone told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have =
been=20
calling it that ever since.&nbsp; My California registration certificate =
lists=20
the Body Type Model as "RD" (roadster?).&nbsp; Here is what my BL =
Heritage=20
certificate says:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>"Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August concerning your =
Austin-Healey 3000=20
Mark III convertible".</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(Note that Austin-Healey has the hyphen.&nbsp; I'm talking August, =
1982,=20
here)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(The Other) Len<BR>Fairfield, CA, USA<BR>1967 AH 3000 MkIII,=20
HBJ8L39031</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=[email-masked] =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked] =

  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 26, =
2016 4:43=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] =
Convertible=20
  Top.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car =
and roll=20
  up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a =
removable=20
  hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled at the =
need=20
  (desire?) to change everything. IMHO.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Doug&nbsp;<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Bob</DIV>
  <DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature>That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is =
the frame=20
  also fixed to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow =
on trees=20
  over here. Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always =
have seen=20
  them as roadsters I've never thought about it.</DIV>
  <DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature>Best regards, Per<BR><BR>Skickat fr=E5n =
min=20
iPad</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;:<BR><BR=
></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
    <DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
    <DIV>So what is a BN2? &nbsp;It has an erectable hood, and it's most =

    definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)? &nbsp;I always considered =
it a=20
    roadster, just like my dad's Model A.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>Gents<BR>I think we have to get the definitions =
right. A=20
    convertible is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is =
fixed to=20
    the car. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, =
meaning=20
    that the top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I =
suggest a=20
    simple Googling on this and you will get the terms right.<BR>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>Best regards, Per<BR>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>Skickat fr=E5n min iPad<BR>
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Well, I think the Jaguars XK120/140/150 came as FHC(Fixed Head Coup=C3=A9), D=
HC(Drop Head Coup=C3=A9) and roadster.=20

Per

> 27 sep. 2016 kl. 18:54 skrev Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>:
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The best definitions seem to be that the early Healeys are roadsters where=
as the BJ7 and BJ8 are convertibles, which are also often referred to as 'dr=
op head coupes' in the world of Jaguars etc.=20
>=20
> Derek
>=20
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:43 AM, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>> A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and roll u=
p windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a removable h=
ood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled at the need (des=
ire?) to change everything. IMHO.
>> =20
>> Cheers,
>> =20
>> Doug=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Bob
>> That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car? S=
orry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit that=
 there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as roadsters I'=
ve never thought about it.
>> =20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely fix=
ed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, just like my=
 dad's Model A.
>> =20
>>=20
>> =20
>> Gents
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Well, I think the Jaguars XK120/140/15=
0 came as FHC(Fixed Head Coup=C3=A9), DHC(Drop Head Coup=C3=A9) and roadster=
.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSi=
gnature">Per<br><br>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div><div><br>27 sep. 2016 kl=
. 18:54 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bspide=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Maybe the 'd=
rop heads' are 'cabriolets?'</div><div><br></div><div>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ..=
.</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:=
normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b></b><br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I seem t=
o remember this coming up many years ago.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>The best d=
efinitions seem to be that the early Healeys are roadsters whereas the BJ7 a=
nd BJ8 are convertibles, which are also often referred to as 'drop head coup=
es' in the world of Jaguars etc.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Derek</div><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 2=
7, 2016 at 12:43 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">d=
[email-masked]</a> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div>A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to=
 the car and roll up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!=
) has a removable hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddl=
ed at the need (desire?) to change everything. IMHO.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Doug&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><br></div><span class=3D"">
<div>Bob</div>
<div>That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car?=
 Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit th=
at there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as roadsters I=
've never thought about it.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Best regards, Per<br><div><br></div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div>
<div><br>26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspi=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><div><b=
r></div></div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000">
<div>So what is a BN2?&nbsp; It has an erectable hood, and it's most definit=
ely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?&nbsp; I always considered it a roadster, j=
ust like my dad's Model A.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<hr>
<div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoratio=
n:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Gents<br>I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a ve=
hicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the ca=
se is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is remov=
able, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this a=
nd you will get the terms right.<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Best regards, Per<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:46:31 -0700

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Len it's a convertible. Although in modern use any two seat convertible is
called a roadster. My BN4 is a roadster. Door blends into front cowl
without interruption of window vent or terminated dash.

Ira Erbs
1959 100-6
MKI engine and disc brakes
Portland,OR

On Sep 27, 2016 3:00 PM, "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <
[email-masked]> wrote:

>
> Long ago, someone told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have been
> calling it that ever since.  My California registration certificate lists
> the Body Type Model as "RD" (roadster?).  Here is what my BL Heritage
> certificate says:
>
> "Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August concerning your Austin-Healey
> (Note that Austin-Healey has the hyphen.  I'm talking August, 1982, here)
>
> (The Other) Len
> Fairfield, CA, USA
> *From:* [email-masked]
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 4:43 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Len it&#39;s a convertible. Although in modern use any two s=
eat convertible is called a roadster. My BN4 is a roadster. Door blends int=
o front cowl without interruption of window vent or terminated dash.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<br>
1959 100-6<br>
MKI engine and disc brakes<br>
Portland,OR</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 27, 2016 3=
:00 PM, &quot;Len and/or Marge Hartnett&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thehart=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"a=
ttribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Long ago, someone told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have bee=
n=20
calling it that ever since.=C2=A0 My California registration certificate li=
sts=20
the Body Type Model as &quot;RD&quot; (roadster?).=C2=A0 Here is what my BL=
 Heritage=20
certificate says:</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>&quot;Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August concerning your Austin-H=
ealey 3000=20
Mark III convertible&quot;.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>(Note that Austin-Healey has the hyphen.=C2=A0 I&#39;m talking August,=
 1982,=20
here)</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>(The Other) Len<br>Fairfield, CA, USA<br>1967 AH 3000 MkIII,=20
HBJ8L39031</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;PADDING=
-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px">
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>=20
  </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> </di=
v>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked].=
net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox=
.team.net</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 26, 2016 4:=
43=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Convertible=
=20
  Top.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and =
roll=20
  up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a removab=
le=20
  hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled at the need=
=20
  (desire?) to change everything. IMHO.</div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>Cheers,</div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>Doug=C2=A0<br><br><br></div>
  <div>Bob</div>
  <div>That&#39;s too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame=20
  also fixed to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn&#39;t grow=
 on trees=20
  over here. Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always have s=
een=20
  them as roadsters I&#39;ve never thought about it.</div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>Best regards, Per<br><br>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min=20
iPad</div>
  <div><br>26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:b=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><br=
></div>
  <blockquote>
    <div>
    <div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:12pt">
    <div>So what is a BN2?=C2=A0 It has an erectable hood, and it&#39;s mos=
t=20
    definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?=C2=A0 I always considered it =
a=20
    roadster, just like my dad&#39;s Model A.</div>
    <div>=C2=A0</div>
    <hr>

    <div style=3D"FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;=
COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none"><br>
    <div>=C2=A0</div>Gents<br>I think we have to get the definitions right.=
 A=20
    convertible is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed=
 to=20
    the car. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, mean=
ing=20
    that the top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a=
=20
    simple Googling on this and you will get the terms right.<br>
    <div>=C2=A0</div>Best regards, Per<br>
    <div>=C2=A0</div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<br>
    <div>=C2=A0</div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div></blockq=
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I think a roadster is a car on which the top disappears into the body when =
not erected. It can be on an attached frame or completely removable, but  i=
t it's not seen when it's down.

Bill Lawrence

________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of i erbs <eyera30=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:46 PM
To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett
Cc: Ahealey help
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

Len it's a convertible. Although in modern use any two seat convertible is =
called a roadster. My BN4 is a roadster. Door blends into front cowl withou=
t interruption of window vent or terminated dash.

Ira Erbs
1959 100-6

On Sep 27, 2016 3:00 PM, "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <thehartnetts@earthlin=

Long ago, someone told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have been cal=
ling it that ever since.  My California registration certificate lists the =
Body Type Model as "RD" (roadster?).  Here is what my BL Heritage certifica=
te says:

"Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August concerning your Austin-Healey 3000=
 Mark III convertible".

(The Other) Len
Fairfield, CA, USA

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and roll up=
 windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a removable h=
ood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled at the need (de=
sire?) to change everything. IMHO.

Cheers,

Doug

Bob

Best regards, Per

Skickat fr=E5n min iPad

[email-masked]>>:

So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely fixed=
 to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, just like my =
dad's Model A.

________________________________

Gents
u will get the terms right.

Best regards, Per

Skickat fr=E5n min iPad

@gmail.com

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<p>I think a roadster is a car on which the top disappears into the body&nb=
sp;when not erected. It can be on an attached frame or completely removable=
, but &nbsp;it it's not seen when it's&nbsp;down.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Bill Lawrence</p>
<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1" customtabinde=
x=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true">
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lor=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys-b=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of i erbs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<b=
r>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Len and/or Marge Hartnett<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Len it's a convertible. Although in modern use any two seat =
convertible is called a roadster. My BN4 is a roadster. Door blends into fr=
ont cowl without interruption of window vent or terminated dash.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<br>
1959 100-6<br>
MKI engine and disc brakes<br>
Portland,OR</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 27, 2016 3:00 PM, &quot;Len and/or Marge =
Hartnett&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tabindex=
=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=
=3D"attribution">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:1=
px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex">
<u></u>
<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Long ago, someone told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have bee=
n calling it that ever since.&nbsp; My California registration certificate =
lists the Body Type Model as &quot;RD&quot; (roadster?).&nbsp; Here is what=
 my BL Heritage certificate says:</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&quot;Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August concerning your Austin-H=
ealey 3000 Mark III convertible&quot;.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>(Note that Austin-Healey has the hyphen.&nbsp; I'm talking August, 198=
2, here)</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>(The Other) Len<br>
Fairfield, CA, USA<br>
1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#000000 2px solid; padding-left:5px; paddi=
ng-right:0px; margin-left:5px; margin-right:0px">
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial; background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D=
"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" tabin=
dex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true">
[email-masked]</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D=
"true">
[email-masked]</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]=
t" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1"=
 disabled=3D"true">
[email-masked]</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 26, 2016 4:43=
 PM</div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Convertible To=
p.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and ro=
ll up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a remova=
ble hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled at the nee=
d (desire?) to change everything.
 IMHO.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Doug&nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Bob</div>
<div>That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car=
? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit =
that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as roadste=
rs I've never thought about it.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Best regards, Per<br>
<br>
Skickat fr=E5n min iPad</div>
<div><br>
26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@com=
cast.net" target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true">bspidell@comc=
ast.net</a>&gt;:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial; color:#000000; font-size:12pt">
<div>So what is a BN2?&nbsp; It has an erectable hood, and it's most defini=
tely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?&nbsp; I always considered it a roadster=
, just like my dad's Model A.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<hr>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal; font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; co=
lor:#000; font-size:12pt; font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none">
<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Gents<br>
I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle th=
at has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case is w=
ith BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removable, =
and is not fixed to the vehicle.
 I suggest a simple Googling on this and you will get the terms right.<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Best regards, Per<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Skickat fr=E5n min iPad<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><br class=""></div>To me, this vintage advert defines the BJ7 and later as a convertible and everything before as a roadster.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="AA42B2AC-654D-4FB3-A0C4-379DE50FDCF1" height="766" width="530" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:[email-masked]" class=""></div></body></html>
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From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:27:37 -0700

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according to wikipedia. one can define a roadster any way they want to
after first saying "A *roadster*, sometimes referred to as a *spider* or
*spyder*, is an open two-seat car with emphasis on sporting appearance or
character. Initially an American term for a two-seat car with no weather
protection, usage has spread internationally and has evolved to include
two-seatconvertibles <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convertible>.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadster_(automobile)

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes
*Aerodynamics are for people who can=E2=80=99t build engines.* =E2=80=93 *E=
nzo Ferrari*
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 6:05 AM, Al Malin <[email-masked]> wrote:

>
> To me, this vintage advert defines the BJ7 and later as a convertible and
> everything before as a roadster.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">according to wikipedia. one can define a roadster any way =
they want to after first saying &quot;<span style=3D"color:rgb(37,37,37);fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;font-size:17.5px">A=C2=A0</span><b style=3D"color:rgb(=
37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:17.5px">roadster</b><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:17.5px">, sometime=
s referred to as a=C2=A0</span><b style=3D"color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:=
sans-serif;font-size:17.5px">spider</b><span style=3D"color:rgb(37,37,37);f=
ont-family:sans-serif;font-size:17.5px">=C2=A0or=C2=A0</span><b style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:17.5px">spyder</b><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:17.5px">, is =
an open two-seat car with emphasis on sporting appearance or character. Ini=
tially an American term for a two-seat car with no weather protection, usag=
e has spread internationally and has evolved to include two-seat</span><a h=
ref=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convertible" title=3D"Convertible" sty=
le=3D"text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;backgr=
ound-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;bac=
kground-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-=
size:17.5px">convertibles</a><span style=3D"color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family=
:sans-serif;font-size:17.5px">.</span><div><a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.=
org/wiki/Roadster_(automobile)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadster_(aut=
omobile)</a><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"font-famil=
y:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times Ne=
w Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)=
</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><strong style=3D"margin=
:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:basel=
ine;background:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif">Ae=
rodynamics are for people who can=E2=80=99t build engines.</strong><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;backgro=
und-color:rgb(0,0,0)">=C2=A0=E2=80=93=C2=A0</span><em style=3D"margin:0px;p=
adding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;ba=
ckground:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif">Enzo Fer=
rari</em><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled w=
ords</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 6:05 AM, Al Malin <s=
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[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
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yle=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div>To me, this vintage advert defi=
nes the BJ7 and later as a convertible and everything before as a roadster.=
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From: Rohan Marr <[email-masked]>
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As a long time lurker I thought I would jump in on this one. I tend to =
agree with Bill.=20

Someone once explained to me that the difference between a =
=E2=80=9CRoadster=E2=80=9D and a =E2=80=9CConvertible=E2=80=9D was the =
fact that a Roadster does not have fixed door windows/frames and a =
convertible does, ie. wind up windows. I am sure it is simply a =
marketing term that is inconsistently used between manufacturers.

*******************************
Rohan (aka Aussie)
=E2=80=9956 Longbridge BN4 =E2=80=9CHellouise"

> On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:54 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> I think a roadster is a car on which the top disappears into the body =
when not erected. It can be on an attached frame or completely =
removable, but  it it's not seen when it's down.
>=20
> Bill Lawrence
>=20
>=20
> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of i erbs =
<[email-masked]>
> Len it's a convertible. Although in modern use any two seat =
convertible is called a roadster. My BN4 is a roadster. Door blends into =
front cowl without interruption of window vent or terminated dash.
> On Sep 27, 2016 3:00 PM, "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" =
> =20
> Long ago, someone told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have =
been calling it that ever since.  My California registration certificate =
lists the Body Type Model as "RD" (roadster?).  Here is what my BL =
here)
> 26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell <[email-masked] =
>=20
> So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely =
fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, just =
like my dad's Model A.
> Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">As a long time lurker I thought I would jump =
in on this one. I tend to agree with Bill.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Someone once explained to me that the =
difference between a =E2=80=9CRoadster=E2=80=9D and a =E2=80=9CConvertible=
=E2=80=9D was the fact that a Roadster does not have fixed door =
windows/frames and a convertible does, ie. wind up windows. I am sure it =
is simply a marketing term that is inconsistently used between =
manufacturers.<br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;" =
class=3D"">*******************************</font></p><p style=3D"margin: =
0px;" class=3D"">Rohan (aka Aussie)<br class=3D"">=E2=80=9956 Longbridge =
BN4&nbsp;=E2=80=9CHellouise"</p>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:54 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, =
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D"">I think a roadster is a car on which the =
top disappears into the body&nbsp;when not erected. It can be on an =
attached frame or completely removable, but &nbsp;it it's not seen when =
it's&nbsp;down.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D"">Bill Lawrence</div><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div style=3D"" class=3D""><hr tabindex=3D"-1" =
customtabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" style=3D"display: inline-block; =
width: 790.859375px;" class=3D""><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of i erbs =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, September 27, 2016 =
10:46 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Len and/or Marge =
Hartnett<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Ahealey help<br class=3D""><b=
 class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Convertible =
Top.</font><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D"">Len it's a =
convertible. Although in modern use any two seat convertible is called a =
roadster. My BN4 is a roadster. Door blends into front cowl without =
interruption of window vent or terminated dash.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D"">Ira Erbs<br =
class=3D"">1959 100-6<br class=3D"">MKI engine and disc brakes<br =
class=3D"">Portland,OR</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 27, 2016 3:00 PM, "Len and/or Marge =
Hartnett" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
type=3D"attribution" class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex;"><u class=3D""></u><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Long ago, someone =
told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have been calling it that =
ever since.&nbsp; My California registration certificate lists the Body =
Type Model as "RD" (roadster?).&nbsp; Here is what my BL Heritage =
certificate says:</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">"Thank =
you for your enquiry of 17 August concerning your Austin-Healey 3000 =
Mark III convertible".</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"">(Note that Austin-Healey has the hyphen.&nbsp; I'm talking =
August, 1982, here)</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">(The =
Other) Len<br class=3D"">Fairfield, CA, USA<br class=3D"">1967 AH 3000 =
MkIII, HBJ8L39031</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><blockquote =
style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; =
margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-style:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: =
10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=3D"">----- =
Original Message -----<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; =
background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial =
initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; =
line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; =
line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; =
line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, September 26, 2016 =
4:43 PM</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; =
font-family: arial;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Convertible =
Top.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">A =
convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and roll =
up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a =
removable hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled =
at the need (desire?) to change everything. IMHO.</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Doug&nbsp;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Bob</div><div =
class=3D"">That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed =
to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over =
here. Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen =
them as roadsters I've never thought about it.</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Best regards, Per<br class=3D""><br=
 class=3D"">Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" =
disabled=3D"true" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">So what is a BN2?&nbsp; It has an erectable =
hood, and it's most definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?&nbsp; I =
always considered it a roadster, just like my dad's Model A.</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><hr class=3D""><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: =
normal; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>Gents<br class=3D"">I think we have to get the =
definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle that has a removable top, =
but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The =
BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removable, and is not fixed =
to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this and you will get the =
terms right.<br class=3D""><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>Best regards, =
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