Subject: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 00:00:09 -0700

Dear Listers,

I own a 1961 BT7 3000 Mk I, four-seater version, which was fitted with
the factory hardtop. I like the hard top, but I would like to fit the car
for a convertible top. Is that feasible? I know that the Mark II's came
out with a convertible top, which I believe, became the standard. Has
anyone out there fitted a convertible top to a BT7 four-seater? If so, I
would love to hear from you. I am guessing that because the BT7's prior
to the change over did not have roll up windows, that there might be some
problems arising from the fit of the sliding winows to the convertible
top. Please correct me if I am in error.

Thanks for any help or advice,

Bob in Bellflower, CA.
1961 BT7 under restoration.

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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:26:42 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

I think the original poster is interested in a convertible top fitted to the BJ7 and BJ8, instead of the removable top fitted to the roadsters. 

Bob Haskell
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'62 AH3000 BT7 (smaller project)
'64 Mini Cooper (small project - by definition)
'68 BMW 1600 (first car - project)
'80 MBG LE (running?)

-----Original Message-----
>From: Charlie Schott <[email-masked]>
>Sent: Sep 25, 2016 3:27 PM
>To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.
>
>Bob,
>
>I have a 1960 BT7 that I fitted with a convertible top. The frame came with 
>the car and I bought the top from Moss. If you have a pair of holes on each 
>side behind the doors, then it should be no problem. One set of holes is for 
>the tonneau bar and the other is for the top frame, which is removable when 
>the top is down and is stored behind the back of the rear seats. See the 
>attached photos.
>
>Regards,
>
>Charlie
>
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A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and roll=
 up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a remov=
able hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled at the=
 need (desire?) to change everything. IMHO. Cheers, Doug =

BobThat's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the ca=
r? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Ad=
mit that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as =
roadsters I've never thought about it. Best regards, Per

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26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>:

So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely fi=
xed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, just li=
ke my dad's Model A. =

 Gents
I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle=
 that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the cas=
e is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is re=
movable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on=
 this and you will get the terms right.
 Best regards, Per
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<html><div>A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the c=
ar and roll up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) =
has a removable hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befud=
dled at the need (desire?) to change everything. IMHO.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Doug&nbsp;<br><br><br></div>
<div>Bob</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is th=
e frame also fixed to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't=
 grow on trees over here. Admit that there are a few around, but as I al=
so always have seen them as roadsters I've never thought about it.</div>=

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[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><br></div>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">
<div>So what is a BN2? &nbsp;It has an erectable hood, and it's most def=
initely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)? &nbsp;I always considered it a ro=
adster, just like my dad's Model A.</div>
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Gents<br>I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is =
a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Lik=
e the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the =
top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Go=
ogling on this and you will get the terms right.<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
Best regards, Per<br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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Gentlelmen,

I learned something about convertible tops; ones that are permanently
installed on the body but can be erected. Then there are the soft tops,
that I remember being called, that just button up when you want to.  I,
myself, have a BT7, which can be fitted with a soft top, not a truly
convert able top as in the later 3000 versions.  Thanks for all the
dialogue. I just have to figure out where to get one when the time
arises.

Bob P.
Bellflower, CA.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:22:52 +0200 Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>
writes:
Hi
Perhaps we should redefine the term then, by saying a convertible is a
vehicle with a top that is fixed to the body AND quick and easy to erect.
That would make the BN2 a roadster again, wouldn't it. 
But I wonder what the rest of the world would think of this idea ??

Per

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26 sep. 2016 kl. 21:13 skrev Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>:

Yep, frame is bolted to the, uh, frame by 6 bolts--3 on either side--and
is 'erectable' (not a word, but you get the idea).  Frame comes up easy
with a tug, then you spend the next half-hour buttoning it down.

From: "Per Schoerner" <[email-masked]>
To: "Bob Spidell" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "Charlie Schott" <[email-masked]>, "healeys"
<[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:06:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

Bob
That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car?
Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit
that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as
roadsters I've never thought about it.

Best regards, Per

Skickat från min iPad

So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely
fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, just
like my dad's Model A.

Gents
I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle
that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case
is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is
removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling
on this and you will get the terms right.

Best regards, Per

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<DIV>Gentlelmen,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I learned something about convertible tops; ones that are permanent=
ly =

installed on the body but can be erected. Then there are the soft tops, =
that I =

remember being called, that just button up when you want to.&nbsp; I, my=
self, =

have a BT7, which can be fitted with a soft top, not a truly convert abl=
e top as =

in the later 3000 versions.&nbsp; Thanks for all the dialogue. I just ha=
ve to =

figure out where to get one when the time arises.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bob P.</DIV>
<DIV>1961 BT7 under restoration.</DIV>
<DIV>Bellflower, CA.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:22:52 +0200 Per Schoerner &lt;<A =

href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE =

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  <DIV>Hi</DIV>
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  it.&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>Yep, frame is bolted to the, uh, frame by 6 bolts--3 on either =
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    side--and is 'erectable' (not a word, but you get the idea). &nbsp;F=
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ne"><B>From: =

    </B>"Per Schoerner" &lt;<A =

    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: =
</B>"Bob =

    Spidell" &lt;<A =

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    </B>"Charlie Schott" &lt;<A =

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aleys" =

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    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt=
;<BR><B>Sent: =

    </B>Monday, September 26, 2016 12:06:58 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [H=
ealeys] =

    Convertible Top.<BR>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Bob</DIV>
    <DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature>That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is =
the frame =

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w on =

    trees over here. Admit that there are a few around, but as I also al=
ways =

    have seen them as roadsters I've never thought about it.</DIV>
    <DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature><BR></DIV>
    <DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature>Best regards, Per<BR>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</DIV>
    <DIV><BR>26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<A =

    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =

    target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>&gt;:<BR>
    <DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE>
      <DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
      <DIV>So what is a BN2? &nbsp;It has an erectable hood, and it's mo=
st =

      definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)? &nbsp;I always considere=
d it a =

      roadster, just like my dad's Model A.<BR></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
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none"><B></B><BR>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>Gents<BR>I think we have to get the definitions rig=
ht. A =

      convertible is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is =
fixed to =

      the car. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster,=
 meaning =

      that the top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I sugg=
est a =

      simple Googling on this and you will get the terms right.<BR>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>Best regards, Per<BR>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<BR>
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