Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 04:51:27 -0700

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Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I also have 
a badge with no enamel.  It's next-to-impossible to find someone that 
still does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much to have a badge 
re-done as it would to buy new (if not more with two-way shipping 
charges).  If you find someone who can do it please let us all know.  
The re-pops are pretty good (they ought to be for $200+).

Technically, it's "champleve'".

Bob

On 9/8/2016 5:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton wrote:
>
> I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.
>
> I have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne "in-fill".
>
> I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on 
> having my current badge restored...in cloisonne.  Failing all of that, 
> I'll just get her repainted!
>
> GaryB
>
>

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    <p>Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I
      also have a badge with no enamel.  It's next-to-impossible to find
      someone that still does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much
      to have a badge re-done as it would to buy new (if not more with
      two-way shipping charges).  If you find someone who can do it
      please let us all know.  The re-pops are pretty good (they ought
      to be for $200+).<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Technically, it's "champleve'".</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Bob<br>
    </p>
    <br>
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        <p>I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge,
          in cloisonne.</p>
        <p>I have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne
          "in-fill".</p>
        <p>I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info
          on having my current badge restored...in cloisonne.  Failing
          all of that, I'll just get her repainted!</p>
        <p>GaryB<br>
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From: "Simon Lachlan" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 12:53:09 +0100

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Contact:-

http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/

They are still, seemingly, pretty hopeless at Internet things. They are
excellent at enamel and cloisonn=E9. Doubt you=92ll find a better.

Simon

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Gary =
R.
Brierton
Sent: 09 September 2016 01:53
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

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I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in =
cloisonne.

I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on having =
my
current badge restored...in cloisonne.  Failing all of that, I'll just =
get
her repainted!

GaryB

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a =
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p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>They are still, seemingly, pretty hopeless at Internet things. They =
are excellent at enamel and cloisonn=E9. Doubt you&#8217;ll find a =
better.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary R. =
Brierton<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2016 01:53<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] 3000 Mk III =
cloisonne front badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I am interested =
in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in =
cloisonne.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I have a =
perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne =
&quot;in-fill&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I would like to =
get either an intact replacement or some info on having my current badge =
restored...in cloisonne.&nbsp; Failing all of that, I'll just get her =
repainted!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>GaryB<o:p></o:p>=
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 13:09:21 +0000 (UTC)

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Try these guys. =C2=A0Just googled Cloisonne and they popped up. =C2=A0No f=
inancial Interest. =C2=A0http://www.emblemagic.com/40's_&_up.htm

      From: Gary R. Brierton <[email-masked]>
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obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.I have a perfect one=
 which has no enamel or cloisonne "in-fill".I would like to get either an i=
ntact replacement or some info on having my current badge restored...in clo=
isonne.=C2=A0 Failing all of that, I'll just get her repainted!GaryB

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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473374465796_16313">I am interested in obtain=
ing an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473374465796_16469">I have a perfect one whic=
h has no enamel or cloisonne "in-fill".</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473374465796_16468">I would like to get eithe=
r an intact replacement or some info on having my current badge restored...=
in cloisonne.&nbsp; Failing all of that, I'll just get her repainted!</div>
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#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:whi=
te !important; }  Find an enamel finger nail polish of a good color match a=
nd carefully apply it.
Happy Healeying=C2=A0Max=C2=A01961 BT-7

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On Friday, September 9, 2016, 7:51 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

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Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I also have a =
badge with no enamel.=C2=A0 It's next-to-impossible to find someone that st=
ill does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much to have a badge re-done=
 as it would to buy new (if not more with  two-way shipping charges).=C2=A0=
 If you find someone who can do it please let us all know.=C2=A0 The re-pop=
s are pretty good (they ought to be for $200+).
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I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.
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I have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne "in-fill".
=20
I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on having my =
current badge restored...in cloisonne.=C2=A0 Failing all of that, I'll just=
 get her repainted!
=20
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                Find an enamel finger nail polish of a good color match and=
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On Friday, September 9, 2016, 7:51 AM, Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail">
    <p>Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I
      also have a badge with no enamel.&nbsp; It's next-to-impossible to fi=
nd
      someone that still does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much
      to have a badge re-done as it would to buy new (if not more with
      two-way shipping charges).&nbsp; If you find someone who can do it
      please let us all know.&nbsp; The re-pops are pretty good (they ought
      to be for $200+).<br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <p><br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <p>Technically, it's "champleve'".</p>
    <p><br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <p>Bob<br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <br clear=3D"none">
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      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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        <p>I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge,
          in cloisonne.</p>
        <p>I have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne
          "in-fill".</p>
        <p>I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info
          on having my current badge restored...in cloisonne.&nbsp; Failing
          all of that, I'll just get her repainted!</p>
        <p>GaryB<br clear=3D"none">
        </p>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none">
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See eBay:-

322152082855

Have a look.

Gold!? Never seen one myself.

Simon

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob
Spidell
Sent: 09 September 2016 12:51
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I also have a
badge with no enamel.  It's next-to-impossible to find someone that still
does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much to have a badge re-done as
it would to buy new (if not more with two-way shipping charges).  If you
find someone who can do it please let us all know.  The re-pops are pretty
good (they ought to be for $200+).

Bob

I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on having my
current badge restored...in cloisonne.  Failing all of that, I'll just get
her repainted!

GaryB

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style=3D'color:windowtext'>322152082855<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Have a =
look.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Gold!? Never seen one =
myself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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ext'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2016 12:51<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III =
cloisonne front badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Can't help much, but I recall =
looking into this years ago as I also have a badge with no enamel.&nbsp; =
It's next-to-impossible to find someone that still does this work and, =
IIRC, it would cost as much to have a badge re-done as it would to buy =
new (if not more with two-way shipping charges).&nbsp; If you find =
someone who can do it please let us all know.&nbsp; The re-pops are =
pretty good (they ought to be for =
$200+).<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Technically, it's =
&quot;champleve'&quot;.<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Bob<o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 9/8/2016 5:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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id=3Ddivtagdefaultwrapper><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I am interested in =
obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in =
cloisonne.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have a perfect one which =
has no enamel or cloisonne &quot;in-fill&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I would like to get either =
an intact replacement or some info on having my current badge =
restored...in cloisonne.&nbsp; Failing all of that, I'll just get her =
repainted!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>GaryB<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 15:17:19 +0100

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Team.

These people are the best in the world but their business model is so old
school it is quaint.

I've used them for a BJ8 Mk III and a 100/6 front shroud badge and they are
both excellent.  The cost is high and the turn around long. This is because
it is a genuine 'Cottage' industry run by a very small team.

I will put up some photo galleries on my website later this weekend with
further links etc.

AlanB

Bob

GaryB

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size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>These people =
are the best in the world but their business model is so old school it is q=
uaint.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"http://w=
ww.badgecraft.co.uk/">http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;ve used them for a BJ8 Mk III and a 10=
0/6 front shroud badge and they are both excellent.&nbsp; The cost is high =
and the turn around long. This is because it is a genuine &#8216;Cottage&#8=
217; industry run by a very small team.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";c=
olor:#1F497D'>I will put up some photo galleries on my website later this w=
eekend with further links etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Al=
anB<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><img b=
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> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob S=
pidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2016 12:51<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.=
team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
><p>Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I also hav=
e a badge with no enamel.&nbsp; It's next-to-impossible to find someone tha=
t still does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much to have a badge re-=
done as it would to buy new (if not more with two-way shipping charges).&nb=
sp; If you find someone who can do it please let us all know.&nbsp; The re-=
pops are pretty good (they ought to be for $200+).<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p><p>Technically, it's &quot;champleve'&quot;.<o:p></o:p></p><p=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 9/8/2016 5:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton w=
rote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bott=
om:5.0pt'><div id=3Ddivtagdefaultwrapper><p style=3D'background:white'><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I am interested in obtaining=
 an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p styl=
e=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I=
 have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne &quot;in-fill&quot;.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-famil=
y:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I would like to get either an intact replacement =
or some info on having my current badge restored...in cloisonne.&nbsp; Fail=
ing all of that, I'll just get her repainted!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=
=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ga=
ryB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></=
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
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I had some cloissone pins made for an organization by ThePinPeople.com
They might have the capability of redoing badges or perhaps pointing you in
the right direction.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ron Mitchell <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Try these guys.  Just googled Cloisonne and they popped up.  No financial
> Interest.  http://www.emblemagic.com/40's_&_up.htm
>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:53 PM
> *Subject:* [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I had=
 some cloissone pins made for an organization by ThePinPeople.com</div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">They might have the capabi=
lity of redoing badges or perhaps pointing you in the right direction.</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt=C2=A0</div><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep =
9, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ron Mitchell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;backgro=
und-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Luc=
ida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span></span></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Try these guys.=C2=A0 Just googled Cloisonne and they popped up.=C2=A0 =
No financial Interest. =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.emblemagic.com/40%27s_&a=
mp;_up.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://www.emblemagic.com/40&#39;<wbr>s_&amp;=
_up.htm</a><br><br></div><div style=3D"display:block">  <div style=3D"font-=
family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,H=
elvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> =
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-wei=
ght:bold">From:</span></b> Gary R. Brierton &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gbrierton=
@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br> <b><span =
style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&quot; &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursd=
ay, September 8, 2016 8:53 PM<span class=3D""><br> <b><span style=3D"font-w=
eight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge=
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<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div>I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloiso=
nne.</div>
<div>I have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne &quot;in-fill&qu=
ot;.</div>
<div>I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on havin=
g my current badge restored...in cloisonne.=C2=A0 Failing all of that, I&#3=
9;ll just get her repainted!</div>
<div>GaryB<br>
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Prototype for a replica?? It is a pressing, not cast brass or base metal.
Gold plating can be done easily as I understand that the usual 
tin/copper/chrome is applied after enamelling and after the enamelled 
badge has been ground down and polished. It would be easy enough to 
replace the chrome with a gold (coloured) coating.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 9-9-2016 om 15:40 schreef Simon Lachlan:
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Bob Spidell
> *Sent:* 09 September 2016 12:51
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
>
> Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I also 
> have a badge with no enamel.  It's next-to-impossible to find someone 
> that still does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much to have a 
> badge re-done as it would to buy new (if not more with two-way 
> shipping charges).  If you find someone who can do it please let us 
> all know.  The re-pops are pretty good (they ought to be for $200+).
>
>     having my current badge restored...in cloisonne.  Failing all of
>     that, I'll just get her repainted!
>
>     GaryB
>
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Prototype for a replica?? It is a
      pressing, not cast brass or base metal.<br>
      Gold plating can be done easily as I understand that the usual
      tin/copper/chrome is applied after enamelling and after the
      enamelled badge has been ground down and polished. It would be
      easy enough to replace the chrome with a gold (coloured) coating.
      <br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Op 9-9-2016 om 15:40 schreef Simon Lachlan:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>See eBay:-</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>322152082855</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Have a look.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Gold!? Never seen one myself.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Bob Spidell<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2016 12:51<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne
                front badge</span></p>
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        <p>Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as
          I also have a badge with no enamel.  It's next-to-impossible
          to find someone that still does this work and, IIRC, it would
          cost as much to have a badge re-done as it would to buy new
          (if not more with two-way shipping charges).  If you find
          someone who can do it please let us all know.  The re-pops are
          pretty good (they ought to be for $200+).</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Technically, it's "champleve'".</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Bob</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 9/8/2016 5:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton
            wrote:</p>
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            <p><span>I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III
                front badge, in cloisonne.</span></p>
            <p><span>I have a perfect one which has no enamel or
                cloisonne "in-fill".</span></p>
            <p><span>I would like to get either an intact replacement or
                some info on having my current badge restored...in
                cloisonne.  Failing all of that, I'll just get her
                repainted!</span></p>
            <p><span>GaryB</span></p>
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I have a new reproduction surplus to my requirements.
First $US165, including shipping takes it.

Michael S
BN1 #174

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Simon Lachlan <[email-masked]=
wrote:

> excellent at enamel and cloisonn=C3=A9. Doubt you=E2=80=99ll find a bette=
r.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Ga=
ry
> R. Brierton
> *Sent:* 09 September 2016 01:53
> I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne=
.
> I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on having m=
y
> current badge restored...in cloisonne.  Failing all of that, I'll just ge=
t
> options/healeys/[email-masked]
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have a new reproduction surplus to my r=
equirements.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:com=
ic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">First $US165, including shipping tak=
es it.<br><br><img src=3D"cid:ii_1570fe97526d8396" alt=3D"Inline image 1" h=
eight=3D"129" width=3D"471"><br><br><br><img alt=3D"Inline image 4" src=3D"=
cid:ii_1570fea494e948ba" height=3D"128" width=3D"471"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:=
small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:=
53 AM, Simon Lachlan <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@=
homecall.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-GB"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Contact:-<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><a href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.=
co.uk/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">They are still, s=
eemingly, pretty hopeless at Internet things. They are excellent at enamel =
and cloisonn=C3=A9. Doubt you=E2=80=99ll find a better.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Simon<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0=
pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang=3D=
"EN-US">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounce=
s@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary R. Brierton<br><b>Sent:=
</b> 09 September 2016 01:53<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [=
Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></=
div><div><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
div><p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I am interested in obtaining an A=
-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=
=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I have a perfect one which has no enamel or c=
loisonne &quot;in-fill&quot;.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"backgroun=
d:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:black">I would like to get either an intact replacement or some i=
nfo on having my current badge restored...in cloisonne.=C2=A0 Failing all o=
f that, I&#39;ll just get her repainted!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=
=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;color:black">GaryB<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></d=
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I thought about finding a jewelry class or art school to see they can do
it....

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I thought about finding a jewelry class or art school to s=
ee they can do it....</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira =
Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Ro=
man&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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n&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"=
font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#3=
9;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (__________=
_______________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 en=
gine and disk brakes</div><div><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto cor=
rects and misspelled words</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 4:51 AM, Bob Spidell =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">
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    <p>Can&#39;t help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I
      also have a badge with no enamel.=C2=A0 It&#39;s next-to-impossible t=
o find
      someone that still does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much
      to have a badge re-done as it would to buy new (if not more with
      two-way shipping charges).=C2=A0 If you find someone who can do it
      please let us all know.=C2=A0 The re-pops are pretty good (they ought
      to be for $200+).<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Technically, it&#39;s &quot;champleve&#39;&quot;.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Bob<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div>On 9/8/2016 5:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton
      wrote:<br>
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      <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;f=
ont-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
        <p>I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge,
          in cloisonne.</p>
        <p>I have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne
          &quot;in-fill&quot;.</p>
        <p>I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info
          on having my current badge restored...in cloisonne.=C2=A0 Failing
          all of that, I&#39;ll just get her repainted!</p>
        <p>GaryB<br>
        </p>
      </div>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
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High cost and long turnaround will always beat the cheap and poor quality t=
hat is sold to us out of China. I have never used these guys but if and whe=
n you want the best, it usually takes time and money.

Jean

________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Bluehealey <blu=
[email-masked]>
Sent: September 9, 2016 2:17 PM
To: 'Bob Spidell'; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

Team.

These people are the best in the world but their business model is so old s=
chool it is quaint.

badgecraft.co.uk - PAMELA DAVID ENAMELS<http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/>
www.badgecraft.co.uk
PAMELA DAVID ENAMELS ONE-OFF MANUFACTURE & RESTORATION OF GLASS ENAMELLED C=
AR BADGES. Established in 1971 our family-run business has been the only on=
e to specialise ...

I've used them for a BJ8 Mk III and a 100/6 front shroud badge and they are=
 both excellent.  The cost is high and the turn around long. This is becaus=
e it is a genuine 'Cottage' industry run by a very small team.

I will put up some photo galleries on my website later this weekend with fu=
rther links etc.

AlanB

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob Spid=
ell
Sent: 09 September 2016 12:51
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I also have a =
badge with no enamel.  It's next-to-impossible to find someone that still d=
oes this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much to have a badge re-done as i=
t would to buy new (if not more with two-way shipping charges).  If you fin=
d someone who can do it please let us all know.  The re-pops are pretty goo=
d (they ought to be for $200+).

Bob

I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on having my =
current badge restored...in cloisonne.  Failing all of that, I'll just get =
her repainted!

GaryB

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<p>High cost and long turnaround will always beat the cheap and poor qualit=
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<b>Sent:</b> September 9, 2016 2:17 PM<br>
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and the turn around long. This is because it is a genuine &#8216;Cottage&#8=
217;
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<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans=
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te later this weekend with further links etc.</span></p>
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<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;; color:windowtext" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;; color:windowtext" lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2016 12:51<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge</span></p>
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<p>Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I also have=
 a badge with no enamel.&nbsp; It's next-to-impossible to find someone that=
 still does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much to have a badge re-d=
one as it would to buy new (if not more
 with two-way shipping charges).&nbsp; If you find someone who can do it pl=
ease let us all know.&nbsp; The re-pops are pretty good (they ought to be f=
or $200&#43;).</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Technically, it's &quot;champleve'&quot;.</p>
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<p>Bob</p>
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On 9/8/2016 5:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton wrote:</p>
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<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
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ront badge, in cloisonne.</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I have a perfect one which has no enamel or clois=
onne &quot;in-fill&quot;.</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I would like to get either an intact replacement =
or some info on having my current badge restored...in cloisonne.&nbsp; Fail=
ing all of that, I'll just get her repainted!</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
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Well, I=E2=80=99m sure these people are very good. And, of course, =
I=E2=80=99ve never seen their work.

Badgecraft or Pamela David as they used to call themselves are superb. =
Yes, with respect to the web etc, they are virtual Luddites, but their =
work is superb. Slow, not cheap but your badge will get back to you, =
eventually, looking better than when it was new. Mine was so good that =
the local bodyshop took the trouble to order a cheap imitation and swap =
it for my restored one. The guy knew a good thing when he saw it; he =
claimed that =E2=80=9Cwe automatically replace all badges in these =
circumstances=E2=80=9D. Sufficient threats got him to yield it up...from =
his desk drawer. Not from a trash bin. Strange eh?

Simon

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael Oritt
Sent: 09 September 2016 16:31
To: Ron Mitchell
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

=20

They might have the capability of redoing badges or perhaps pointing you =
in the right direction.

=20

Best--Michael Oritt=20

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On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ron Mitchell <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

Try these guys.  Just googled Cloisonne and they popped up.  No =
financial Interest.  http://www.emblemagic.com/40's_ =
<http://www.emblemagic.com/40%27s_&_up.htm> &_up.htm

  _____ =20

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I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on having =
my current badge restored...in cloisonne.  Failing all of that, I'll =
just get her repainted!

GaryB

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Well, I=E2=80=99m sure these people are very good. And, of course, =
I=E2=80=99ve never seen their work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Badgecraft or Pamela David as they used to call themselves are =
superb. Yes, with respect to the web etc, they are virtual Luddites, but =
their work is superb. Slow, not cheap but your badge will get back to =
you, eventually, looking better than when it was new. Mine was so good =
that the local bodyshop took the trouble to order a cheap imitation and =
swap it for my restored one. The guy knew a good thing when he saw it; =
he claimed that =E2=80=9Cwe automatically replace all badges in these =
circumstances=E2=80=9D. Sufficient threats got him to yield it up...from =
his desk drawer. Not from a trash bin. Strange =
eh?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael =
Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2016 16:31<br><b>To:</b> Ron =
Mitchell<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I had some cloissone =
pins made for an organization by =
ThePinPeople.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>They might have the =
capability of redoing badges or perhaps pointing you in the right =
direction.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Fri, =
Sep 9, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ron Mitchell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Try these =
guys.&nbsp; Just googled Cloisonne and they popped up.&nbsp; No =
financial Interest. &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.emblemagic.com/40%27s_&amp;_up.htm" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.emblemagic.com/40's_&amp;_up.htm</a><o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
hr size=3D1 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>F=
rom:</span></b><span =
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Gary R. Brierton &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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cloisonne.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I have a =
perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne =
&quot;in-fill&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I would like to =
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restored...in cloisonne.&nbsp; Failing all of that, I'll just get her =
repainted!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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PDE did two of my original badges (100 & 3000 MK2) for me and their work is=
=20
phantastic and just as I wanted for my concours cars. They do not need any=
=20
facebook, new media etc. promotion, as they have work for months and years=
=20
ahead.
Here in Europe they attend several classic car shows and take your badges=
=20
there for reconditioning.
So please do not send them your badges as it takes even longer for us to=20
have ours done by them.
=20
Josef Eckert
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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
Datum: 2016-09-09T19:29:59+0200
Von: "Bluehealey" <[email-masked]>
An: "'Bob Spidell'" <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]"=20
<[email-masked]>
=20
=20
=20

Team.

These people are the best in the world but their business model is so old=
=20
school it is quaint.

http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/ <http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/>

I=E2=80=99ve used them for a BJ8 Mk III and a 100/6 front shroud badge and =
they are=20
both excellent.  The cost is high and the turn around long. This is because=
=20
it is a genuine =E2=80=98Cottage=E2=80=99 industry run by a very small team=
.

I will put up some photo galleries on my website later this weekend with=20
further links etc.

AlanB

=20

=20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob=20
Spidell
Sent: 09 September 2016 12:51
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

=20

Can't help much, but I recall looking into this years ago as I also have a=
=20
badge with no enamel.  It's next-to-impossible to find someone that still=
=20
does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as much to have a badge re-done as=
=20
it would to buy new (if not more with two-way shipping charges).  If you=20
find someone who can do it please let us all know.  The re-pops are pretty=
=20
good (they ought to be for $200+).
=20
Technically, it's "champleve'".
=20
Bob

=20

    I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in
    cloisonne.
    I have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne "in-fill".
    I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on having
    my current badge restored...in cloisonne.  Failing all of that, I'll
    just get her repainted!
    GaryB

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3DUTF-8"/><title></title></head><body><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;te=
xt-decoration:none">PDE did two of my original badges (100 &amp; 3000 MK2) =
for me and their work is phantastic and just as I wanted for my concours ca=
rs. They do not need any facebook, new media etc. promotion, as they have w=
ork for months and years ahead.<br /></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Here in Europe they=
 attend several classic car shows and take your badges there for reconditio=
ning.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">So please do not se=
nd them your badges as it takes even longer for us to have ours done by the=
m.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef Eckert</span>=
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erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Konigswinter/German=
y</span></p>
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erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne fron=
t badge</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2016-09-09T19:29:59+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Bluehealey" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</p=
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "'Bob Spidell'" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,=
 "[email-masked]" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Cali=
bri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Team.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Cali=
bri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">These people are the best in the world =
but their business model is so old school it is quaint.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Cali=
bri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"><a href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/=
">http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Cali=
bri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">I&rsquo;ve used them for a BJ8 Mk III a=
nd a 100/6 front shroud badge and they are both excellent.&nbsp; The cost i=
s high and the turn around long. This is because it is a genuine &lsquo;Cot=
tage&rsquo; industry run by a very small team.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Cali=
bri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">I will put up some photo galleries on m=
y website later this weekend with further links etc.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">AlanB</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.=
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a','sans-serif'; color: windowtext;"> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Bob Spidell<br /><strong>Sent:</st=
rong> 09 September 2016 12:51<br /><strong>To:</strong> [email-masked].=
net<br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne fron=
t badge</span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Can't help much, but I recall looking into this y=
ears ago as I also have a badge with no enamel.&nbsp; It's next-to-impossib=
le to find someone that still does this work and, IIRC, it would cost as mu=
ch to have a badge re-done as it would to buy new (if not more with two-way=
 shipping charges).&nbsp; If you find someone who can do it please let us a=
ll know.&nbsp; The re-pops are pretty good (they ought to be for $200+).</p=
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Technically, it's "champleve'".</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Bob</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<p style=3D"background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; margin: 0px;"><span=
 style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">I am interested in obtainin=
g an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.</span></p>
<p style=3D"background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; margin: 0px;"><span=
 style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">I have a perfect one which =
has no enamel or cloisonne "in-fill".</span></p>
<p style=3D"background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; margin: 0px;"><span=
 style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">I would like to get either =
an intact replacement or some info on having my current badge restored...in=
 cloisonne.&nbsp; Failing all of that, I'll just get her repainted!</span><=
/p>
<p style=3D"background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; margin: 0px;"><span=
 style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">GaryB</span></p>
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Hi Gary, If your BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been painted.
I used to own car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that the
original was painted, not cloisonne. I don't know on what car #  they
changed to painted. Aloha, Jim

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Gary, If your BJ8 is a very late model the badge may ha=
ve been painted. I used to own car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing=
 that the original was painted, not cloisonne. I don&#39;t know on what car=
 # =C2=A0they changed to painted. Aloha, Jim</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gary R. Br=
ierton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">

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<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p>I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonn=
e.</p>
<p>I have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne &quot;in-fill&quot=
;.</p>
<p>I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on having =
my current badge restored...in cloisonne.=C2=A0 Failing all of that, I&#39;=
ll just get her repainted!</p>
<p>GaryB<br>
</p>
</div>
</div>

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Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 07:06:10 -0400

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For a component that is easily replaced it's hard to say 50+ years later =
what was original.  But the evidence I've collected in the BJ8 Registry =
for 8,788 BJ8s (49.6% of total production), says that the painted or =
all-chrome badges were used throughout production.  The parts manual is =
no help because only two part numbers are given:  one for BJ7 and one =
for BJ8.  I always thought the "all-chrome" badges were simply ones for =
which the paint had flaked or worn off, but some claim their cars had =
them from new.

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Anyway, the painted badges in general began to appear consistently about =
chassis 39XXX but like so many such changes it was not done cleanly so =
both painted/chrome and vitreous enamel continued together after that =
point.

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Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

=20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Kimo =
Briske
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 10:22 PM
To: Gary R. Brierton; Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

=20

Hi Gary, If your BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been =
painted. I used to own car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that =
the original was painted, not cloisonne. I don't know on what car #  =
they changed to painted. Aloha, Jim

=20

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>For =
a component that is easily replaced it's hard to say 50+ years later =
what was original.=C2=A0 But the evidence I've collected in the BJ8 =
Registry for 8,788 BJ8s (49.6% of total production), says that the =
painted or all-chrome badges were used throughout production.=C2=A0 The =
parts manual is no help because only two part numbers are given:=C2=A0 =
one for BJ7 and one for BJ8.=C2=A0 I always thought the =
&quot;all-chrome&quot; badges were simply ones for which the paint had =
flaked or worn off, but some claim their cars had them from =
new.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Anyway, the painted badges in general began to =
appear consistently about chassis 39XXX but like so many such changes it =
was not done cleanly so both painted/chrome and vitreous enamel =
continued together after that point.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kimo =
Briske<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 09, 2016 10:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Gary R. Brierton; Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III =
cloisonne front badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi =
Gary, If your BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been painted. =
I used to own car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that the =
original was painted, not cloisonne. I don't know on what car # =
&nbsp;they changed to painted. Aloha, Jim<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, =
Sep 8, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I am interested =
in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in =
cloisonne.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I have a =
perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne =
&quot;in-fill&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I would like to =
get either an intact replacement or some info on having my current badge =
restored...in cloisonne.&nbsp; Failing all of that, I'll just get her =
repainted!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>GaryB<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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From: "Gary R. Brierton" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 12:06:20 +0000

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Again, thanks to all who replied to my post re: BJ8 front badge!  I now hav=
e changed my mind (or whats left of it!) and think I will go with the paint=
ed badge look, using my original.  I do love the look of the cloisonne, but=
...my 40045 probably was either painted or "all chrome" to begin with.  The=
 background is not brass colored or pebbly and the script top edges are rou=
nded so back to Chris Collins at High Point Body and Paint for a profession=
al job.  He did my recent total paint job and the results were extra fine! =
 Yes, that was a shameless plug for Chris.

________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of BJ8Healeys <sby=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:06 AM
To: 'Healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

For a component that is easily replaced it's hard to say 50+ years later wh=
at was original.  But the evidence I've collected in the BJ8 Registry for 8=
,788 BJ8s (49.6% of total production), says that the painted or all-chrome =
badges were used throughout production.  The parts manual is no help becaus=
e only two part numbers are given:  one for BJ7 and one for BJ8.  I always =
thought the "all-chrome" badges were simply ones for which the paint had fl=
aked or worn off, but some claim their cars had them from new.

Anyway, the painted badges in general began to appear consistently about ch=
assis 39XXX but like so many such changes it was not done cleanly so both p=
ainted/chrome and vitreous enamel continued together after that point.

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Kimo Bri=
ske
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 10:22 PM
To: Gary R. Brierton; Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

Hi Gary, If your BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been painted. =
I used to own car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that the origina=
l was painted, not cloisonne. I don't know on what car #  they changed to p=
ainted. Aloha, Jim

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton <[email-masked]<mai=
lto:[email-masked]>> wrote:

GaryB

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<p>Again, thanks to all who replied to my post re: BJ8 front badge!&nbsp; I=
 now have changed my mind (or whats left of it!) and think I will go with t=
he painted badge look, using my original.&nbsp; I do love the look of the c=
loisonne, but...my 40045 probably was either
 painted or &quot;all chrome&quot; to begin with.&nbsp; The background is n=
ot brass colored or pebbly and the script top edges are rounded so back to =
Chris Collins at High Point Body and Paint for a professional job.&nbsp; He=
 did my recent total paint job and the results were
 extra fine!&nbsp; Yes, that was a shameless plug for Chris. <br>
</p>
<br>
<br>
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt" face=
=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of BJ8Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Healeys'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"">
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
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<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; col=
or:#002060">For a component that is easily replaced it's hard to say 50&#43=
; years later what was original.&nbsp; But the evidence I've collected in t=
he BJ8 Registry for 8,788 BJ8s (49.6% of total production),
 says that the painted or all-chrome badges were used throughout production=
.&nbsp; The parts manual is no help because only two part numbers are given=
:&nbsp; one for BJ7 and one for BJ8.&nbsp; I always thought the &quot;all-c=
hrome&quot; badges were simply ones for which the paint had
 flaked or worn off, but some claim their cars had them from new.</span></p=
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; col=
or:#002060">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; col=
or:#002060">Anyway, the painted badges in general began to appear consisten=
tly about chassis 39XXX but like so many such changes it was not done clean=
ly so both painted/chrome and vitreous enamel
 continued together after that point.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; col=
or:#002060">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; col=
or:#002060">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#002060"></span></p>
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imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; col=
or:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#002060"></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; col=
or:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#002060"></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; col=
or:#002060">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; f=
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n></p>
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<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; col=
or:#002060">Havelock, NC&nbsp;
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#002060"></span></p>
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imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-famil=
y:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounc=
[email-masked]]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kimo Briske<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 09, 2016 10:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gary R. Brierton; Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge</span></p>
</div>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
Hi Gary, If your BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been painted. =
I used to own car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that the origina=
l was painted, not cloisonne. I don't know on what car # &nbsp;they changed=
 to painted. Aloha, Jim</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton &lt;<a style=3D"color: blu=
e; text-decoration: underline;" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">I am interested in obtaining an A-H =
3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">I have a perfect one which has no en=
amel or cloisonne &quot;in-fill&quot;.</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">I would like to get either an intact=
 replacement or some info on having my current badge restored...in cloisonn=
e.&nbsp; Failing all of that, I'll just get her repainted!</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">GaryB</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">
<br>
<br>
</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:44:23 -0400

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Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a
question--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed to
have been a definitive answer:

How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier badges become
"Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for later cars?

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Gary R. Brierton <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Again, thanks to all who replied to my post re: BJ8 front badge!  I now
> have changed my mind (or whats left of it!) and think I will go with the
> painted badge look, using my original.  I do love the look of the
> cloisonne, but...my 40045 probably was either painted or "all chrome" to
> begin with.  The background is not brass colored or pebbly and the script
> top edges are rounded so back to Chris Collins at High Point Body and Paint
> for a professional job.  He did my recent total paint job and the results
> were extra fine!  Yes, that was a shameless plug for Chris.
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of BJ8Healeys <
> [email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:06 AM
> *To:* 'Healeys'
> For a component that is easily replaced it's hard to say 50+ years later
> what was original.  But the evidence I've collected in the BJ8 Registry for
> 8,788 BJ8s (49.6% of total production), says that the painted or all-chrome
> badges were used throughout production.  The parts manual is no help
> because only two part numbers are given:  one for BJ7 and one for BJ8.  I
> always thought the "all-chrome" badges were simply ones for which the paint
> had flaked or worn off, but some claim their cars had them from new.
>
>
>
> Anyway, the painted badges in general began to appear consistently about
> chassis 39XXX but like so many such changes it was not done cleanly so both
> painted/chrome and vitreous enamel continued together after that point.
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Kimo
> Briske
> *Sent:* Friday, September 09, 2016 10:22 PM
> *To:* Gary R. Brierton; Healeys

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Now t=
hat we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a question--one=
 that I have asked before and never received what seemed to have been a def=
initive answer: =C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#33=
33ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">How an=
d when did &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; as written on the earlier badges becom=
e &quot;Austin Healey&quot; as was done on the badges for later cars?</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 11, 20=
16 at 8:06 AM, Gary R. Brierton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gbr=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p>Again, thanks to all who replied to my post re: BJ8 front badge!=C2=A0 I=
 now have changed my mind (or whats left of it!) and think I will go with t=
he painted badge look, using my original.=C2=A0 I do love the look of the c=
loisonne, but...my 40045 probably was either
 painted or &quot;all chrome&quot; to begin with.=C2=A0 The background is n=
ot brass colored or pebbly and the script top edges are rounded so back to =
Chris Collins at High Point Body and Paint for a professional job.=C2=A0 He=
 did my recent total paint job and the results were
 extra fine!=C2=A0 Yes, that was a shameless plug for Chris. <br>
</p>
<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif=
" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-boun=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked].<wbr>net</=
a>&gt; on behalf of BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> &#39;Healeys&#39;<span class=3D""><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge</span></fon=
t>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div><span class=3D"">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">For a component that is easily replaced it&#39;s hard to say 50+ =
years later what was original.=C2=A0 But the evidence I&#39;ve collected in=
 the BJ8 Registry for 8,788 BJ8s (49.6% of total production),
 says that the painted or all-chrome badges were used throughout production=
.=C2=A0 The parts manual is no help because only two part numbers are given=
:=C2=A0 one for BJ7 and one for BJ8.=C2=A0 I always thought the &quot;all-c=
hrome&quot; badges were simply ones for which the paint had
 flaked or worn off, but some claim their cars had them from new.</span></p=
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">Anyway, the painted badges in general began to appear consistentl=
y about chassis 39XXX but like so many such changes it was not done cleanly=
 so both painted/chrome and vitreous enamel
 continued together after that point.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">Havelock, NC=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#002060">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060">=C2=A0</span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.=
<wbr>team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kimo Briske<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 09, 2016 10:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gary R. Brierton; Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge</span></p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
Hi Gary, If your BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been painted. =
I used to own car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that the origina=
l was painted, not cloisonne. I don&#39;t know on what car # =C2=A0they cha=
nged to painted. Aloha, Jim</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton &lt;<a style=3D"color:blue=
;text-decoration:underline" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3=
000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I have a perfect one which has no ena=
mel or cloisonne &quot;in-fill&quot;.</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I would like to get either an intact =
replacement or some info on having my current badge restored...in cloisonne=
.=C2=A0 Failing all of that, I&#39;ll just get her repainted!</span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">GaryB</span></p>
</div>
</div>
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New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
<br>
<br>
</p>
</div>
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New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">
=C2=A0</p>
</div>
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The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has it without the =
hyphen.   There is only one part number in the BMC parts list for the =
BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify if =
there was a change point in the middle of the models.  Previous =
discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge without the =
hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

=20

=20

From: Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM
To: Gary R. Brierton
Cc: BJ8Healeys; Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

=20

Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a =
question--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed to =
have been a definitive answer: =20

=20

How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier badges become =
"Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for later cars?

=20

Best--Michael Oritt

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>The =
BJ7 badge had &quot;Austin-Healey&quot;, and the BJ8 badge has it =
without the hyphen.=C2=A0 =C2=A0There is only one part number in the BMC =
parts list for the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data =
would identify if there was a change point in the middle of the =
models.=C2=A0 Previous discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 =
badge without the hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with =
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, =
September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> Gary R. Brierton<br><b>Cc:</b> =
BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III =
cloisonne front badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Now that we are all =
focused on the badge I would like to put out a question--one that I have =
asked before and never received what seemed to have been a definitive =
answer: &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>How and when did =
&quot;Austin-Healey&quot; as written on the earlier badges become =
&quot;Austin Healey&quot; as was done on the badges for later =
cars?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
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Knowing Jensen, they could have used either badge in the change-over 
period. They used up old stock and or used what ever was at hand.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:
>
> The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has it without 
> the hyphen.   There is only one part number in the BMC parts list for 
> the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify 
> if there was a change point in the middle of the models.  Previous 
> discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge without the 
> *From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM
> *To:* Gary R. Brierton
> *Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys
> question--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed 
> to have been a definitive answer:
>
> How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier badges 
> become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for later cars?
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Knowing Jensen, they could have used
      either badge in the change-over period. They used up old stock and
      or used what ever was at hand.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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            and the BJ8 badge has it without the hyphen.   There is only
            one part number in the BMC parts list for the BJ7 badge, and
            one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify if there
            was a change point in the middle of the models.  Previous
            discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge
            without the hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Steve Byers</span><span></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>BJ8 Registry</span><span></span></p>
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              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Gary R. Brierton<br>
              <b>Cc:</b> BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front
              badge</span></p>
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Good Day Michael;=C2=A0 Attached is a file I have regarding this topic.=C2=
=A0 Included is a table of results of the survey done by Ed Kaler back in 2=
008.=C2=A0=20
Hope this helps.=C2=A0--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives=20

    On Sunday, September 11, 2016 11:15 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gm=
ail.com> wrote:
=20

 Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a questio=
n--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed to have been=
 a definitive answer: =C2=A0
How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier badges become "A=
ustin Healey" as was done on the badges for later cars?
Best--Michael Oritt
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Gary R. Brierton <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

Again, thanks to all who replied to my post re: BJ8 front badge!=C2=A0 I no=
w have changed my mind (or whats left of it!) and think I will go with the =
painted badge look, using my original.=C2=A0 I do love the look of the cloi=
sonne, but...my 40045 probably was either painted or "all chrome" to begin =
with.=C2=A0 The background is not brass colored or pebbly and the script to=
p edges are rounded so back to Chris Collins at High Point Body and Paint f=
or a professional job.=C2=A0 He did my recent total paint job and the resul=
ts were extra fine!=C2=A0 Yes, that was a shameless plug for Chris.=20

From: Healeys <[email-masked]. net> on behalf of BJ8Healeys <sb=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:06 AM
To: 'Healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge=C2=A0For a compone=
nt that is easily replaced it's hard to say 50+ years later what was origin=
al.=C2=A0 But the evidence I've collected in the BJ8 Registry for 8,788 BJ8=
s (49.6% of total production), says that the painted or all-chrome badges w=
ere used throughout production.=C2=A0 The parts manual is no help because o=
nly two part numbers are given:=C2=A0 one for BJ7 and one for BJ8.=C2=A0 I =
always thought the "all-chrome" badges were simply ones for which the paint=
 had flaked or worn off, but some claim their cars had them from new.=C2=A0=
Anyway, the painted badges in general began to appear consistently about ch=
assis 39XXX but like so many such changes it was not done cleanly so both p=
ainted/chrome and vitreous enamel continued together after that point.=C2=
=A0Steve ByersHBJ8L/36666BJ8 RegistryAHCA Delegate at LargeHavelock, NC=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox. team.net]On Beh=
alf Of Kimo Briske
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 10:22 PM
To: Gary R. Brierton; Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge=C2=A0Hi Gary, If y=
our BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been painted. I used to own=
 car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that the original was painted=
, not cloisonne. I don't know on what car # =C2=A0they changed to painted. =
Aloha, Jim=C2=A0On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton <gbrierton=
@hotmail.com> wrote:I am interested in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front b=
adge, in cloisonne.I have a perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne "i=
n-fill".I would like to get either an intact replacement or some info on ha=
ving my current badge restored...in cloisonne.=C2=A0 Failing all of that, I=
'll just get her repainted!GaryB

=C2=A0
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1473598008011_49228"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473598008=
011_49608">Good Day Michael;&nbsp; Attached is a file I have regarding this=
 topic.&nbsp; Included is a table of results of the survey done by Ed Kaler=
 back in 2008.&nbsp; <br></span></div><div><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
73598008011_49608">Hope this helps.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1473598008011_49230">&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14735980080=
11_49232" class=3D"signature">--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;       - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives</di=
v> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style=3D"display: block;=
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lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;=
"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Sunday, September 1=
1, 2016 11:15 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><=
/font></div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv6985342=
860"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv6985342860gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff;">Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like t=
o put out a question--one that I have asked before and never received what =
seemed to have been a definitive answer: &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv69853=
42860gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
class=3D"yiv6985342860gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">How and when =
did "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier badges become "Austin Healey"=
 as was done on the badges for later cars?</div><div class=3D"yiv6985342860=
gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=
=3D"yiv6985342860gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">Best--Michael Orit=
t</div></div><div class=3D"yiv6985342860gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><di=
v class=3D"yiv6985342860gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Gary =
R. Brierton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:gbriert=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"non=
e"><blockquote class=3D"yiv6985342860gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div class=3D"yiv6985342860yqt4139115782" id=3D"yiv6985342860yqt02060"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;font-fa=
mily:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div>Again, thanks to all who replied to my post re: BJ8 front badge!&nbsp;=
 I now have changed my mind (or whats left of it!) and think I will go with=
 the painted badge look, using my original.&nbsp; I do love the look of the=
 cloisonne, but...my 40045 probably was either
 painted or "all chrome" to begin with.&nbsp; The background is not brass c=
olored or pebbly and the script top edges are rounded so back to Chris Coll=
ins at High Point Body and Paint for a professional job.&nbsp; He did my re=
cent total paint job and the results were
 extra fine!&nbsp; Yes, that was a shameless plug for Chris. <br clear=3D"n=
one">
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);">
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%;">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt;" face=3D"Calibri, sans-seri=
f" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]. n=
et</a>&gt; on behalf of BJ8Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:sbyers@=
ec.rr.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:06 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> 'Healeys'<span class=3D"yiv6985342860"><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge</span></fon=
t>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div><span class=3D"yiv6985342860">
</span><div>
<div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">For a component that is easily replaced i=
t's hard to say 50+ years later what was original.&nbsp; But the evidence I=
've collected in the BJ8 Registry for 8,788 BJ8s (49.6% of total production=
),
 says that the painted or all-chrome badges were used throughout production=
.&nbsp; The parts manual is no help because only two part numbers are given=
:&nbsp; one for BJ7 and one for BJ8.&nbsp; I always thought the "all-chrome=
" badges were simply ones for which the paint had
 flaked or worn off, but some claim their cars had them from new.</span></d=
iv>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Anyway, the painted badges in general beg=
an to appear consistently about chassis 39XXX but like so many such changes=
 it was not done cleanly so both painted/chrome and vitreous enamel
 continued together after that point.</span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;"></span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">HBJ8L/36666</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;"></span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">BJ8 Registry</span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;"></span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"></span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Havelock, NC&nbsp;
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"></span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;"> Healeys [mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:hea=
[email-masked]">healeys-bounces@autox. team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kimo Briske<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 09, 2016 10:22 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Gary R. Brierton; Healeys<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge</span></div=
</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
Hi Gary, If your BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been painted. =
I used to own car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that the origina=
l was painted, not cloisonne. I don't know on what car # &nbsp;they changed=
 to painted. Aloha, Jim</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;">
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sh=
ape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;" ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:gbrierton@hotma=
il.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"">I am interested in obtain=
ing an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in cloisonne.</span></div>
<div style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"">I have a perfect one whic=
h has no enamel or cloisonne "in-fill".</span></div>
<div style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"">I would like to get eithe=
r an intact replacement or some info on having my current badge restored...=
in cloisonne.&nbsp; Failing all of that, I'll just get her repainted!</span=
></div>
<div style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"">GaryB</span></div>
</div>
</div>
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Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"

>> become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for later cars?

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    <p>Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Knowing Jensen, they could have used
        either badge in the change-over period. They used up old stock
        and or used what ever was at hand.<br>
        Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey",
              and the BJ8 badge has it without the hyphen.   There is
              only one part number in the BMC parts list for the BJ7
              badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would
              identify if there was a change point in the middle of the
              models.  Previous discussions didn't surface anyone who
              had a BJ7 badge without the hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with
              it.</span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Steve Byers</span><span></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>HBJ8L/36666</span><span></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>BJ8 Registry</span><span></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Havelock, NC  </span><span></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Michael
                Oritt [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                  href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Gary R. Brierton<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne
                front badge</span></p>
          </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Now that we are all focused on
                  the badge I would like to put out a question--one that
                  I have asked before and never received what seemed to
                  have been a definitive answer:  </span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>How and when did
                  "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier badges
                  become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for
                  later cars?</span></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best--Michael Oritt</span></p>
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Austin too. Early 3000s had 100-6 horn buttons

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
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On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Oudesluys <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has it without the
> hyphen.   There is only one part number in the BMC parts list for the BJ7
> badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify if there was
> a change point in the middle of the models.  Previous discussions didn't
> surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge without the hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with
> it.
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]
> <[email-masked]>]
> [email-masked]://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Austin too. Early 3000s had 100-6 horn buttons</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br st=
yle=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 =
BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><br></=
div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Oudesluys <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    <div>Knowing Jensen, they could have used
      either badge in the change-over period. They used up old stock and
      or used what ever was at hand.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
      <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>The BJ7 badge had &quot;Austin-Healey&=
quot;,
            and the BJ8 badge has it without the hyphen.=C2=A0 =C2=A0There =
is only
            one part number in the BMC parts list for the BJ7 badge, and
            one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify if there
            was a change point in the middle of the models.=C2=A0 Previous
            discussions didn&#39;t surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge
            without the hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.</span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Steve Byers</span><span></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>HBJ8L/36666</span><span></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>BJ8 Registry</span><span></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span></s=
pan></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Havelock, NC=C2=A0 </span><span></span=
></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Michael
              Oritt [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.<wbr>com</a>] <br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Gary R. Brierton<br>
              <b>Cc:</b> BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front
              badge</span></p>
        </div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Now that we are all focused on
                the badge I would like to put out a question--one that I
                have asked before and never received what seemed to have
                been a definitive answer: =C2=A0</span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>How and when did &quot;Austin-Heal=
ey&quot;
                as written on the earlier badges become &quot;Austin Healey=
&quot;
                as was done on the badges for later cars?</span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Best--Michael Oritt</span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
        </div>
      </div>
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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 14:31:44 -0400

Bob,

Mk II

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php

On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
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G'day

The addition of a hyphen between Austin and Healey is a question that still
hasn't been suitably answered.

Attached is a short article and pics I wrote for the Oct-Dec 2015 issue of
the Australian Austin-Healey that might be of interest. I may be mistaken,
but on looking at original examples the BT7 Mk2 originally had a hyphen, but
with the introduction of the BJ7 it was deleted.

Badges available today do not have the hyphen.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob
Haskell
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 4:32 AM
To: Bob Spidell; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

Bob,

Mk II

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar

On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>>> the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would 
>>> identify if there was a change point in the middle of the models.  
>>> Previous discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge 
>>> without the hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.
>>>
>>> Steve Byers
>>>
>>> HBJ8L/36666
>>>
>>> BJ8 Registry
>>>
>>> AHCA Delegate at Large
>>>
>>> Havelock, NC
>>>
>>> question--one that I have asked before and never received what 
>>> seemed to have been a definitive answer:
>>>
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Steve--

The timeline aside, my question is WHY?

I have heard it said that it was due to a supplier's mistake and that BMC
cut a deal on the badges in return for not returning them but that really
sounds unlikely.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 11:09 AM, BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:

> *From:* Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]]

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Steve=
--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">The timeline aside, my que=
stion is WHY?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I have heard it=
 said that it was due to a supplier&#39;s mistake and that BMC cut a deal o=
n the badges in return for not returning them but that really sounds unlike=
ly.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep=
 11, 2016 at 11:09 AM, BJ8Healeys <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:s=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D=
"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">The BJ7 badge had &quot;Aust=
in-Healey&quot;, and the BJ8 badge has it without the hyphen.=C2=A0 =C2=A0T=
here is only one part number in the BMC parts list for the BJ7 badge, and o=
ne for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify if there was a change poi=
nt in the middle of the models.=C2=A0 Previous discussions didn&#39;t surfa=
ce anyone who had a BJ7 badge without the hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><span class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Steve Byers<=
/span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">A=
HCA Delegate at Large</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Havelock, NC=C2=A0 </span><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002=
060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></span><div style=3D"border:none;border=
-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Michael Oritt [mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.<=
wbr>com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br><b>To:=
</b> Gary R. Brierton<br><b>Cc:</b> BJ8Healeys; Healeys<span class=3D""><br=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge<u></u><u><=
/u></span></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff">Now that we a=
re all focused on the badge I would like to put out a question--one that I =
have asked before and never received what seemed to have been a definitive =
answer: =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><span class=3D""><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff">How and wh=
en did &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; as written on the earlier badges become &q=
uot;Austin Healey&quot; as was done on the badges for later cars?<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333=
ff"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
/span></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div=
></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:10:56 -0400

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When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not
view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed
Kaler's message/site that I have been asking this same question since
2001--which is pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget what
seemed important just a few minutes earlier.

In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of important
it is a curious occurrence.  I can understand how badges got used out of
sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an established brand and
probably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes
me wonder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of its product,
albeit only by the omission of a dash.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>> options/healeys/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">When =
I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer&#39;s message I did not view=
 the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kaler&#=
39;s message/site that I have been asking this same question since 2001--wh=
ich is pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget what seemed imp=
ortant just a few minutes earlier.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3=
333ff">In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of im=
portant it is a curious occurrence.=C2=A0 I can understand how badges got u=
sed out of sequence, but since the name &quot;Austin&#39;Healey&quot; was a=
n established brand and probably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent=
-trademark laws it makes me wonder why BMC would have intentionally changed=
 the name of its product, albeit only by the omission of a dash.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">Bob,<br>
<br>
Mk II<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_<wbr>3000mk1.php</a><span cla=
ss=3D""><br>
<br>
On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
Is a BJ7 a &quot;Mark III&quot; or a &quot;Mark II?&quot;<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
Knowing Jensen, they could have used either badge in the change-over<br>
period. They used up old stock and or used what ever was at hand.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
<br>
The BJ7 badge had &quot;Austin-Healey&quot;, and the BJ8 badge has it witho=
ut<br>
the hyphen.=C2=A0 =C2=A0There is only one part number in the BMC parts list=
 for<br>
the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify<br>
if there was a change point in the middle of the models.=C2=A0 Previous<br>
discussions didn&#39;t surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge without the<br>
hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br>
<br>
Steve Byers<br>
<br>
HBJ8L/36666<br>
<br>
BJ8 Registry<br>
<br>
AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
<br>
Havelock, NC<br>
<br></span>
*From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<wbr>m</a>]<br>
*Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>
*To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>
*Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>
*Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge<span class=3D"">=
<br>
<br>
Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a<br>
question--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed<br>
to have been a definitive answer:<br>
<br>
How and when did &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; as written on the earlier badges=
<br>
become &quot;Austin Healey&quot; as was done on the badges for later cars?<=
br>
<br>
Best--Michael Oritt<br>
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Who knows, Michael?  There are a lot of questions like that that I would =
like to ask of someone who was involved and knows.  Those guys are =
probably long gone.

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From: Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:36 PM
To: BJ8Healeys
Cc: Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

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Steve--

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I have heard it said that it was due to a supplier's mistake and that =
BMC cut a deal on the badges in return for not returning them but that =
really sounds unlikely.

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Best--Michael Oritt

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Steve Byers

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Who =
knows, Michael?=C2=A0 There are a lot of questions like that that I =
would like to ask of someone who was involved and knows.=C2=A0 Those =
guys are probably long gone.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, =
September 11, 2016 6:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Steve--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>The timeline aside, my =
question is WHY?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I have heard it said =
that it was due to a supplier's mistake and that BMC cut a deal on the =
badges in return for not returning them but that really sounds =
unlikely.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, =
Sep 11, 2016 at 11:09 AM, BJ8Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>The =
BJ7 badge had &quot;Austin-Healey&quot;, and the BJ8 badge has it =
without the hyphen.&nbsp; &nbsp;There is only one part number in the BMC =
parts list for the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data =
would identify if there was a change point in the middle of the =
models.&nbsp; Previous discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 =
badge without the hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with =
it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Michael Oritt [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, =
September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> Gary R. Brierton<br><b>Cc:</b> =
BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III =
cloisonne front badge</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Now that we are all focused on the badge I would =
like to put out a question--one that I have asked before and never =
received what seemed to have been a definitive answer: =
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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done on the badges for later cars?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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I would like to offer an option for those of you who would like a cloisonne 
badge but due to cost and/or availability are contemplating re-painting 
their badges.  I have attached a photo of my badge but I could not get it to 
show what I wanted you to see.  I could see it with my eyes but the camera 
didn't.

I found a product that was what I considered very close to the original 
color but in addition had a clear appearance and a very small metal flake 
content.  When freshly painted, I believe that you would have to look twice 
and close up to see that it was not cloisonne.

The product is nail polish.  Scherer brand.  #56, Blackberry.  Purchased at 
a Rite Aid pharmacy.  I can not assure you that this product is still 
available.  I purchased it several years ago and I do not have time to 
Google it for you..

I tape off everything except the lettering and the frames around the 
lettering and spray paint the lettering, frames, and the background using a 
craft type sprayer.  I then use a cloth with little or no nap with thinner 
(acetone for nail polish?) applied, wraped around something that spans the 
letters and frames, and remove the polish from the top surfaces.  The 
lettering and the frames are the same height so you only touch the high 
surfaces and do not touch the background.  Even using paint, I think the 
process would be the same.

As with any product exposed to the weather and road grit, it will dull 
eventually.  Having done it once, the next time is easier.

(The Other) Len
Fairfield, CA, USA
1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 

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avery nice, Len.  Thank you.  It makes me wish I had a Healey that
needed it right now.

-Roland
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This is interesting trivia!
I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) with a h=
yphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handbooks, s=
pecial tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all have the hyphen.=
  But there's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....
I just think it's a BMC consistency control issue.......
I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most recent "A=
ustin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Heritage=
 Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants as registered t=
rademarks at various times.=20
So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / BMC - t=
hey probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter.=20
So - was Jensen Healey always hyphenated or not??=20
;-)
Chris

> On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>=20
> When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not vi=
ew the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kaler'=
s message/site that I have been asking this same question since 2001--which i=
s pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget what seemed important=
 just a few minutes earlier.
>=20
> In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of importan=
t it is a curious occurrence.  I can understand how badges got used out of s=
equence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an established brand and pro=
bably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes me w=
onder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of its product, albe=
it only by the omission of a dash.
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>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <[email-masked]> wr=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>This is interesting trivia!</div><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature">I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 9=
48's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of S=
prite owners handbooks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handb=
ooks all have the hyphen. &nbsp;But there's no hyphen on the cover of the Wo=
rkshop manuals....</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I just think it's a B=
MC consistency control issue.......</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I al=
so had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most recent "Austi=
n Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Heritage Lim=
ited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants as registered trad=
emarks at various times.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">So I'm gu=
essing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / BMC - they prob=
ably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter.&nbsp;</div><div=
 id=3D"AppleMailSignature">So - was Jensen Healey always hyphenated or not??=
&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">;-)</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSign=
ature">Chris</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div><br>On 12 Se=
p 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.=
com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"=
>When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not vie=
w the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kaler's=
 message/site that I have been asking this same question since 2001--which i=
s pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget what seemed important=
 just a few minutes earlier.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"colo=
r:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">In=
 any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of important it=
 is a curious occurrence.&nbsp; I can understand how badges got used out of s=
equence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an established brand and pro=
bably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes me w=
onder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of its product, albe=
it only by the omission of a dash.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333f=
f">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#333=
3ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></di=
v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Se=
p 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Bob,<br>
<br>
Mk II<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_<wbr>3000mk1.php</a><span class=
=3D""><br>
<br>
On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
Knowing Jensen, they could have used either badge in the change-over<br>
period. They used up old stock and or used what ever was at hand.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">
<br>
The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has it without<br>
the hyphen.&nbsp; &nbsp;There is only one part number in the BMC parts list f=
or<br>
the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify<br>
if there was a change point in the middle of the models.&nbsp; Previous<br>
discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge without the<br>
hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br>
<br>
Steve Byers<br>
<br>
HBJ8L/36666<br>
<br>
BJ8 Registry<br>
<br>
AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
<br>
Havelock, NC<br>
<br></span>
*From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<wbr>m</a>]<br>
*Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>
*To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>
*Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>
*Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge<span class=3D""><=
br>
<br>
Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a<br>
question--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed<br>
to have been a definitive answer:<br>
<br>
How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier badges<br>
become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for later cars?<br>
<br>
Best--Michael Oritt<br>
<br>
<br>
</span></blockquote></blockquote>
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Hello

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Way back in 1975 when I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in =
Warwick I was given a key ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked =
like the normal keyring that is still being produced today with the =
Union Jack on the top of the words =E2=80=9CDonald Healey Motor =
CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little time later I realised that instead of =
Austin-Healey at the top is Jensen-Healey in the same script as the =
Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is hyphenated.

=20

In the 1974 book =E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter =
Browning and John Blunsden it is also hyphenated.

=20

Thanks

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains

Australia

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Chris =
Dimmock
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM
To: Michael Oritt
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

=20

I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) =
with a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners =
handbooks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all =
have the hyphen.  But there's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop =
manuals....

I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most =
recent "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British =
Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both =
variants as registered trademarks at various times.=20

So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / =
BMC - they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't =
matter.=20

;-)

Chris

=20

On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not =
view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed =
Kaler's message/site that I have been asking this same question since =
2001--which is pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget what =
seemed important just a few minutes earlier.

=20

In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of =
important it is a curious occurrence.  I can understand how badges got =
used out of sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an =
established brand and probably protected under UK and/or worldwide =
patent-trademark laws it makes me wonder why BMC would have =
intentionally changed the name of its product, albeit only by the =
omission of a dash.

=20

Best--Michael Oritt

=20

=20

=20

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

Bob,

Mk II

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC

Best--Michael Oritt

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Way back in 1975 when =
I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwick I was given a key =
ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the normal keyring =
that is still being produced today with the Union Jack on the top of the =
words =E2=80=9CDonald Healey Motor CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little time =
later I realised that instead of Austin-Healey at the top is =
Jensen-Healey in the same script as the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is =
hyphenated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>In the 1974 book =
=E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter Browning and John =
Blunsden it is also hyphenated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Blue Mountains<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris =
Dimmock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Michael Oritt<br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is =
interesting trivia!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly =
948's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my =
collection of Sprite owners handbooks, special tuning, schedule of =
workshop hours etc handbooks all have the hyphen. &nbsp;But there's no =
hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>I just think it's a BMC =
consistency control issue.......<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>I also had a very quick =
look at some trademark databases. The most recent &quot;Austin =
Healey&quot; and &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; trademark holders - British =
Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both =
variants as registered trademarks at various =
times.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever =
was to Austin / BMC - they probably had both variants trademarked too, =
so it didn't matter.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>So - was Jensen Healey =
always hyphenated or not??&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>;-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael =
Oritt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>When I replied just a =
few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not view the full string =
of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kaler's message/site =
that I have been asking this same question since 2001--which is pretty =
interesting given that I often tend to forget what seemed important just =
a few minutes earlier.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>In any case though I =
know this issue hardly rises to the level of important it is a curious =
occurrence.&nbsp; I can understand how badges got used out of sequence, =
but since the name &quot;Austin'Healey&quot; was an established brand =
and probably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws =
it makes me wonder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of =
its product, albeit only by the omission of a =
dash.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, =
Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob,<br><br>Mk =
II<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Bob Haskell<br>AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br><br>On=
 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Is a BJ7 a &quot;Mark III&quot; or a &quot;Mark =
II?&quot;<br><br><br>On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Knowing Jensen, they could =
have used either badge in the change-over<br>period. They used up old =
stock and or used what ever was at hand.<br>Kees =
Oudesluijs<br><br><br>Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef =
BJ8Healeys:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>The BJ7 badge had =
&quot;Austin-Healey&quot;, and the BJ8 badge has it without<br>the =
hyphen.&nbsp; &nbsp;There is only one part number in the BMC parts list =
for<br>the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would =
identify<br>if there was a change point in the middle of the =
models.&nbsp; Previous<br>discussions didn't surface anyone who had a =
BJ7 badge without the<br>hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br><br>Steve =
Byers<br><br>HBJ8L/36666<br><br>BJ8 Registry<br><br>AHCA Delegate at =
Large<br><br>Havelock, NC<br><br>*From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>]<br>*Sent:* Sunday, =
September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>*To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>*Cc:* =
BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>*Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne =
front badge<br><br>Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like =
to put out a<br>question--one that I have asked before and never =
received what seemed<br>to have been a definitive answer:<br><br>How and =
when did &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; as written on the earlier =
badges<br>become &quot;Austin Healey&quot; as was done on the badges for =
later cars?<br><br>Best--Michael Oritt<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p =
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Hello Gary

=20

Some years back I watch an older bloke repair a badge by mixing up
fibreglass resin, adding a little red dye and then applying the mix to =
the
badge. After it set, you could not tell the difference between it and
cloisonn=E9.

=20

Hoo Roo

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains,

Australia

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Gary =
R.
Brierton
Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016 10:06 PM
To: BJ8Healeys; 'Healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

=20

Again, thanks to all who replied to my post re: BJ8 front badge!  I now =
have
changed my mind (or whats left of it!) and think I will go with the =
painted
badge look, using my original.  I do love the look of the cloisonne,
but...my 40045 probably was either painted or "all chrome" to begin =
with.
The background is not brass colored or pebbly and the script top edges =
are
rounded so back to Chris Collins at High Point Body and Paint for a
professional job.  He did my recent total paint job and the results were
extra fine!  Yes, that was a shameless plug for Chris.=20

=20

  _____ =20

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of BJ8Healeys
<[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:06 AM
To: 'Healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge=20

=20

For a component that is easily replaced it's hard to say 50+ years later
what was original.  But the evidence I've collected in the BJ8 Registry =
for
8,788 BJ8s (49.6% of total production), says that the painted or =
all-chrome
badges were used throughout production.  The parts manual is no help =
because
only two part numbers are given:  one for BJ7 and one for BJ8.  I always
thought the "all-chrome" badges were simply ones for which the paint had
flaked or worn off, but some claim their cars had them from new.

=20

both

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

=20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Kimo
Briske
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 10:22 PM
To: Gary R. Brierton; Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

=20

Hi Gary, If your BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been =
painted. I
used to own car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that the =
original
was painted, not cloisonne. I don't know on what car #  they changed to
painted. Aloha, Jim

=20

GaryB

=20

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hello Gary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Some years back I =
watch an older bloke repair a badge by mixing up fibreglass resin, =
adding a little red dye and then applying the mix to the badge. After it =
set, you could not tell the difference between it and =
cloisonn=E9.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hoo =
Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Blue Mountains,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary R. =
Brierton<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 11 September 2016 10:06 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys; 'Healeys'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div id=3Ddivtagdefaultwrapper><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Again, thanks =
to all who replied to my post re: BJ8 front badge!&nbsp; I now have =
changed my mind (or whats left of it!) and think I will go with the =
painted badge look, using my original.&nbsp; I do love the look of the =
cloisonne, but...my 40045 probably was either painted or &quot;all =
chrome&quot; to begin with.&nbsp; The background is not brass colored or =
pebbly and the script top edges are rounded so back to Chris Collins at =
High Point Body and Paint for a professional job.&nbsp; He did my recent =
total paint job and the results were extra fine!&nbsp; Yes, that was a =
shameless plug for Chris. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p><div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3D3 =
width=3D"98%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
> Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; on behalf of BJ8Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b>=
 Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Healeys'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><div><div><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>For =
a component that is easily replaced it's hard to say 50+ years later =
what was original.&nbsp; But the evidence I've collected in the BJ8 =
Registry for 8,788 BJ8s (49.6% of total production), says that the =
painted or all-chrome badges were used throughout production.&nbsp; The =
parts manual is no help because only two part numbers are given:&nbsp; =
one for BJ7 and one for BJ8.&nbsp; I always thought the =
&quot;all-chrome&quot; badges were simply ones for which the paint had =
flaked or worn off, but some claim their cars had them from =
new.</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Anyway, the painted badges in general began to appear =
consistently about chassis 39XXX but like so many such changes it was =
not done cleanly so both painted/chrome and vitreous enamel continued =
together after that point.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kimo Briske<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, =
September 09, 2016 10:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Gary R. Brierton; =
Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'color:black'>Hi Gary, If your =
BJ8 is a very late model the badge may have been painted. I used to own =
car 43014 and learned in a concourse showing that the original was =
painted, not cloisonne. I don't know on what car # &nbsp;they changed to =
painted. Aloha, Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'color:black'>On Thu, Sep 8, =
2016 at 2:53 PM, Gary R. Brierton &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I am interested =
in obtaining an A-H 3000 Mk III front badge, in =
cloisonne.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I have a =
perfect one which has no enamel or cloisonne =
&quot;in-fill&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I would like to =
get either an intact replacement or some info on having my current badge =
restored...in cloisonne.&nbsp; Failing all of that, I'll just get her =
repainted!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>GaryB<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div></div><p =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p =
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:48:50 +1000

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Hey Patrick.=20
Snap!
I've got the one Wally Gates got when he went to Warwick.=20
It's pretty well used.=20
Mostly because Wal had this habit of driving the Healey home in summer, drop=
ping his watch and wallet, and then walking fully clothed into his pool....
He allowed me the same ritual back when I had a bugeye sprite
Stuffs your leather key ring though!!

> On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>=20
> Hello
> =20
> Way back in 1975 when I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwick=
 I was given a key ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the no=
rmal keyring that is still being produced today with the Union Jack on the t=
op of the words =E2=80=9CDonald Healey Motor CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little tim=
e later I realised that instead of Austin-Healey at the top is Jensen-Healey=
 in the same script as the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is hyphenated.
> =20
> In the 1974 book =E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter Brow=
ning and John Blunsden it is also hyphenated.
> =20
> Thanks
> =20
> Patrick Quinn
> Blue Mountains
> Australia
> =20
> From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Chris D=
immock
> I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) with a=
 hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handbooks=
, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all have the hyph=
en.  But there's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....
> I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most recent "=
Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Heritag=
e Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants as registered=
 trademarks at various times.=20
> So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / BMC -=
 they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter.=20

> =20
> Best--Michael Oritt
> =20
> =20
> =20
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
> How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on ...

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Hey Patrick.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"App=
leMailSignature">Snap!</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I've got the one W=
ally Gates got when he went to Warwick.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSigna=
ture">It's pretty well used.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Mostl=
y because Wal had this habit of driving the Healey home in summer, dropping h=
is watch and wallet, and then walking fully clothed into his pool....<br>He a=
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pleMailSignature">Stuffs your leather key ring though!!<br><br></div><div id=
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div><br>On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn &lt;<a href=
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l"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> He=
aleys [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-boun=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Dimmock<br><b>Sent:</b> Mo=
nday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Oritt<br><b>Cc:</b> Au=
stin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front bad=
ge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is interesting trivia!<o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I've never seen an=
 Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their bo=
nnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handbooks, special tuning, s=
chedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all have the hyphen. &nbsp;But there=
's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....<o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I just think it's a BMC c=
onsistency control issue.......<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSign=
ature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I also had a very quick look at some trademark=
 databases. The most recent "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark ho=
lders - British Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ ha=
d both variants as registered trademarks at various times.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So I'm guessi=
ng it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / BMC - they probably=
 had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So - was Jensen=
 Healey always hyphenated or not??&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D"Appl=
eMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">;-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D"Ap=
pleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 12 Sep 2016, at=
 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">micha=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"m=
argin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:#3333FF">When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's=
 message I did not view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts a=
ttached to Ed Kaler's message/site that I have been asking this same questio=
n since 2001--which is pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget w=
hat seemed important just a few minutes earlier.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333FF"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333FF">In=
 any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of important it=
 is a curious occurrence.&nbsp; I can understand how badges got used out of s=
equence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an established brand and pro=
bably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes me w=
onder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of its product, albe=
it only by the omission of a dash.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333FF"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333FF">Best--Michael Orit=
t<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"colo=
r:#3333FF"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"color:#3333FF"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, S=
ep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rchaskell@earthlin=
k.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob,<br><br>Mk II<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Bob Haskell=
<br>AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br><a href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000=
mk1.php" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br>=
<br>On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"<br><br><br>On 9/11/2016 8:59 A=
M, Oudesluys wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Knowing Jensen, the=
y could have used either badge in the change-over<br>period. They used up ol=
d stock and or used what ever was at hand.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br>Op 1=
1-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the=
 BJ8 badge has it without<br>the hyphen.&nbsp; &nbsp;There is only one part n=
umber in the BMC parts list for<br>the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only e=
mpirical data would identify<br>if there was a change point in the middle of=
 the models.&nbsp; Previous<br>discussions didn't surface anyone who had a B=
J7 badge without the<br>hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br><br>Steve Byers<b=
r><br>HBJ8L/36666<br><br>BJ8 Registry<br><br>AHCA Delegate at Large<br><br>H=
avelock, NC<br><br>*From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:michael.or=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>]<br>*Sent:* Sun=
day, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>*To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>*Cc:* BJ8Heale=
ys; Healeys<br>*Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge<br=
><br>Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a<br>q=
uestion--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed<br>to h=
ave been a definitive answer:<br><br>How and when did "Austin-Healey" as wri=
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....I've just done exactly that with an MG badge that was chipped =
Patrick.

Cheers

Peter
(Also Oz but North of the border!)

From: Patrick & Caroline Quinn=20
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:37 PM
To: 'Gary R. Brierton' ; 'BJ8Healeys' ; 'Healeys'=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

Hello Gary

=20

Some years back I watch an older bloke repair a badge by mixing up =
fibreglass resin, adding a little red dye and then applying the mix to =
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Hoo Roo

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Blue Mountains,

Australia

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Patrick.</DIV>
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The badges of the JENSEN-HEALEY always had the hyphen where applicable, 
as on the bonnet, wheels and steering wheel the hyphen was replaced by a 
stylised wide H in the middle with JENSEN in the top and HEALEY in the 
bottom part of the H. However in documents you will find both Jensen 
Healey (e.g. original wiring diagram, maintainance scheme, official 
letters etc.) and Jensen-Healey.
This hyphen story on the big Healeys probably is a Jensen thing as they 
build the complete bodies, painted, wired, trimmed and all (on the same 
line as the Jensen-Haeley was to be build a few years later), for BMC 
who just fitted engine and gearbox. The story of the production fault 
and subsequent deal with the provider could well be true as Jensen was 
always tight for money.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 12-9-2016 om 8:00 schreef Chris Dimmock:
> I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) 
> with a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite 
> owners handbooks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc 
> handbooks all have the hyphen.  But there's no hyphen on the cover of 
> the Workshop manuals....
> I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most 
> recent "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British 
> Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both 
> variants as registered trademarks at various times.
> So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / 
> BMC - they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't 
> matter.
> So - was Jensen Healey always hyphenated or not??
> ;-)
> Chris
>
>
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked] 
>
>> When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did 
>> not view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached 
>> to Ed Kaler's message/site that I have been asking this same question 
>> since 2001--which is pretty interesting given that I often tend to 
>> forget what seemed important just a few minutes earlier.
>>
>> In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of 
>> important it is a curious occurrence.  I can understand how badges 
>> got used out of sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an 
>> established brand and probably protected under UK and/or worldwide 
>> patent-trademark laws it makes me wonder why BMC would have 
>> intentionally changed the name of its product, albeit only by the 
>> omission of a dash.
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <[email-masked] 
>>
>>     Bob,
>>
>>     Mk II
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Bob Haskell
>>     AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
>>     <http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php>
>>
>>                 *From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]
>>                 later cars?

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The badges of the JENSEN-HEALEY always
      had the hyphen where applicable, as on the bonnet, wheels and
      steering wheel the hyphen was replaced by a stylised wide H in the
      middle with JENSEN in the top and HEALEY in the bottom part of the
      H. However in documents you will find both Jensen Healey (e.g.
      original wiring diagram, maintainance scheme, official letters
      etc.) and Jensen-Healey.<br>
      This hyphen story on the big Healeys probably is a Jensen thing as
      they build the complete bodies, painted, wired, trimmed and all
      (on the same line as the Jensen-Haeley was to be build a few years
      later), for BMC who just fitted engine and gearbox. The story of
      the production fault and subsequent deal with the provider could
      well be true as Jensen was always tight for money.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Op 12-9-2016 om 8:00 schreef Chris Dimmock:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:[email-masked]"
      type="cite">
      <meta http-equiv="Context-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
      <div>This is interesting trivia!</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">I've never seen an Austin Healey
        Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their
        bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handbooks,
        special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all
        have the hyphen.  But there's no hyphen on the cover of the
        Workshop manuals....</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">I just think it's a BMC consistency
        control issue.......</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">I also had a very quick look at some
        trademark databases. The most recent "Austin Healey" and
        "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Heritage
        Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants as
        registered trademarks at various times. </div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to
        us than it ever was to Austin / BMC - they probably had both
        variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter. </div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">So - was Jensen Healey always
        hyphenated or not?? </div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">;-)</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">Chris</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
        On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div dir="ltr">
          <div class="gmail_default">When I replied just a few minutes
            ago to Steve Byer's message I did not view the full string
            of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kaler's
            message/site that I have been asking this same question
            since 2001--which is pretty interesting given that I often
            tend to forget what seemed important just a few minutes
            earlier.</div>
          <div class="gmail_default"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_default">In any case though I know this
            issue hardly rises to the level of important it is a curious
            occurrence.  I can understand how badges got used out of
            sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an
            established brand and probably protected under UK and/or
            worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes me wonder why BMC
            would have intentionally changed the name of its product,
            albeit only by the omission of a dash.</div>
          <div class="gmail_default"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div>
          <div class="gmail_default"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_default"><br>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob
            Haskell <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote">Bob,<br>
              <br>
              Mk II<br>
              <br>
              Cheers,<br>
              <br>
              Bob Haskell<br>
              AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_<wbr>3000mk1.php</a><span
                class=""><br>
                <br>
                On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
              </span>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"><span class="">
                  Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:<br>
                </span>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"><span class="">
                    Knowing Jensen, they could have used either badge in
                    the change-over<br>
                    period. They used up old stock and or used what ever
                    was at hand.<br>
                    Kees Oudesluijs<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:<br>
                  </span>
                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"><span class="">
                      <br>
                      The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8
                      badge has it without<br>
                      the hyphen.   There is only one part number in the
                      BMC parts list for<br>
                      the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical
                      data would identify<br>
                      if there was a change point in the middle of the
                      models.  Previous<br>
                      discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7
                      badge without the<br>
                      hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br>
                      <br>
                      Steve Byers<br>
                      <br>
                      HBJ8L/36666<br>
                      <br>
                      BJ8 Registry<br>
                      <br>
                      AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
                      <br>
                      Havelock, NC<br>
                      <br>
                    </span>
                    *From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      target="_blank">[email-masked]<wbr>m</a>]<br>
                    *Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>
                    *To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>
                    *Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>
                    *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front
                    badge<span class=""><br>
                      <br>
                      Now that we are all focused on the badge I would
                      like to put out a<br>
                      question--one that I have asked before and never
                      received what seemed<br>
                      to have been a definitive answer:<br>
                      <br>
                      How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the
                      earlier badges<br>
                      become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges
                      for later cars?<br>
                      <br>
                      Best--Michael Oritt<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
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I also have one of those key rings and to be honest I have always 
thought that it was some kind of a fraud been made from an original 
Austin-Healey key ring.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 12-9-2016 om 9:32 schreef Patrick & Caroline Quinn:
>
> Hello
>
> Way back in 1975 when I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in 
> Warwick I was given a key ring amongst other bits and pieces. It 
> looked like the normal keyring that is still being produced today with 
> the Union Jack on the top of the words “Donald Healey Motor CoLtd”. 
> Some little time later I realised that instead of Austin-Healey at the 
> top is Jensen-Healey in the same script as the Austin-Healey badge. 
> Yes it is hyphenated.
>
> In the 1974 book ‘The Jensen-Healey Stories’ by Peter Browning and 
> John Blunsden it is also hyphenated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains
>
> Australia
>
> *Chris Dimmock
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM
> *To:* Michael Oritt
> *Cc:* Austin Healey
>     When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I
>     did not view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts
>     attached to Ed Kaler's message/site that I have been asking this
>     same question since 2001--which is pretty interesting given that I
>     often tend to forget what seemed important just a few minutes earlier.
>
>     got used out of sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was
>     an established brand and probably protected under UK and/or
>     worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes me wonder why BMC would
>     have intentionally changed the name of its product, albeit only by
>     the omission of a dash.
>
>     Best--Michael Oritt
>
>     On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell
>
>     Bob,
>
>     Mk II
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Bob Haskell
>     AHCA 3000 MkI registrar

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I also have one of those key rings and
      to be honest I have always thought that it was some kind of a
      fraud been made from an original Austin-Healey key ring.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Op 12-9-2016 om 9:32 schreef Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hello</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Way back in 1975 when I visited the
            Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwick I was given a key
            ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the
            normal keyring that is still being produced today with the
            Union Jack on the top of the words “Donald Healey Motor
            CoLtd”. Some little time later I realised that instead of
            Austin-Healey at the top is Jensen-Healey in the same script
            as the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is hyphenated.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>In the 1974 book ‘The Jensen-Healey
            Stories’ by Peter Browning and John Blunsden it is also
            hyphenated.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Patrick Quinn</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Blue Mountains</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Australia</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Chris Dimmock<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Michael Oritt<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne
                front badge</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">This is interesting trivia!</p>
        </div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite
            (certainly 948's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their bonnet
            badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handbooks,
            special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all
            have the hyphen.  But there's no hyphen on the cover of the
            Workshop manuals....</p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal">I just think it's a BMC consistency
            control issue.......</p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal">I also had a very quick look at some
            trademark databases. The most recent "Austin Healey" and
            "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Heritage
            Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants
            as registered trademarks at various times. </p>
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        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal">So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us
            than it ever was to Austin / BMC - they probably had both
            variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter. </p>
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        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal">So - was Jensen Healey always hyphenated
            or not?? </p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal">;-)</p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal">Chris</p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
            On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
            wrote:</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>When I replied just a few
                  minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not view the
                  full string of messages and I see fromold posts
                  attached to Ed Kaler's message/site that I have been
                  asking this same question since 2001--which is pretty
                  interesting given that I often tend to forget what
                  seemed important just a few minutes earlier.</span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>In any case though I know this
                  issue hardly rises to the level of important it is a
                  curious occurrence.  I can understand how badges got
                  used out of sequence, but since the name
                  "Austin'Healey" was an established brand and probably
                  protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark
                  laws it makes me wonder why BMC would have
                  intentionally changed the name of its product, albeit
                  only by the omission of a dash.</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best--Michael Oritt</span></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
            </div>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob
                Haskell &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                wrote:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Bob,<br>
                <br>
                Mk II<br>
                <br>
                Cheers,<br>
                <br>
                Bob Haskell<br>
                AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php"
                  target="_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br>
                <br>
                On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Knowing Jensen, they could have used
                either badge in the change-over<br>
                period. They used up old stock and or used what ever was
                at hand.<br>
                Kees Oudesluijs<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has
                it without<br>
                the hyphen.   There is only one part number in the BMC
                parts list for<br>
                the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data
                would identify<br>
                if there was a change point in the middle of the
                models.  Previous<br>
                discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge
                without the<br>
                hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br>
                <br>
                Steve Byers<br>
                <br>
                HBJ8L/36666<br>
                <br>
                BJ8 Registry<br>
                <br>
                AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
                <br>
                Havelock, NC<br>
                <br>
                *From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank">[email-masked]</a>]<br>
                *Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>
                *To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>
                *Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>
                *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front
                badge<br>
                <br>
                Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to
                put out a<br>
                question--one that I have asked before and never
                received what seemed<br>
                to have been a definitive answer:<br>
                <br>
                How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the
                earlier badges<br>
                become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for
                later cars?<br>
                <br>
                Best--Michael Oritt<br>
                <br>
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Patrick, I have an original Mk II badge (from BJ7 20111, BMC assembly date
26 June - 5 July 1962) that has the hyphen (photo attached).  I suppose it's
possible the badge was intended for a BT7 Mk II but got installed on a BJ7
instead; but at least this one data point would suggest that one can't say
for certain that the loss of the hyphen occurred with BJ7 production. 

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Patrick &
Caroline Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:58 PM
To: 'Bob Haskell'; 'Bob Spidell'; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

G'day

Hoo Roo

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[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Patrick &amp; =
Caroline Quinn<br>Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:58 PM<br>To: 'Bob =
Haskell'; 'Bob Spidell'; [email-masked]<br>Subject: Re: =
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In fact this badge was also used on the BJ 8 hardtop. It was produced by Ree=
ves and Co and they ran a batch few years back on the original tooling. I do=
 have a set stamped Reeves and Co and have a set on my hardtop.=20
Current badges have been produced for key fobs by another vendor which is sl=
ightly different but not noticeable by the average eye. I also have a fob fo=
r comparison and color differences.
Ken

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> Mostly because Wal had this habit of driving the Healey home in summer, dr=
opping his watch and wallet, and then walking fully clothed into his pool...=
.
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hello
>> =20
>> Way back in 1975 when I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwic=
k I was given a key ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the n=
ormal keyring that is still being produced today with the Union Jack on the t=
op of the words =E2=80=9CDonald Healey Motor CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little tim=
e later I realised that instead of Austin-Healey at the top is Jensen-Healey=
 in the same script as the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is hyphenated.
>> =20
>> In the 1974 book =E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter Bro=
wning and John Blunsden it is also hyphenated.
immock
>> I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) with=
 a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handboo=
ks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all have the hy=
phen.  But there's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....
>> I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most recent=
 "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Herit=
age Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants as register=
ed trademarks at various times.=20
>> So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / BMC=
 - they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter.=20
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>>=20
>> When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not v=
iew the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kaler=
's message/site that I have been asking this same question since 2001--which=
 is pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget what seemed importa=
nt just a few minutes earlier.
>> =20
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 badge was also used on the BJ 8 hardtop. It was produced by Reeves and Co a=
nd they ran a batch few years back on the original tooling. I do have a set s=
tamped Reeves and Co and have a set on my hardtop.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"App=
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lso have a fob for comparison and color differences.</div><div id=3D"AppleMa=
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t 7:48 AM, Chris Dimmock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">aust=
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Good Morning Chris

=20

That was 41 years ago. While I have recollections of visiting the DHMC =
when it was still operating in the converted cinema, my memory is hazy =
who I went with.

=20

Wally at the time was on a teacher exchange in Northern Ireland and =
drove around in a Triumph Herald with a map of Australia painted along =
both sides. He explained to me that he thought people would realise that =
he was Australian and therefore not shoot at him.

=20

Anyway for a time when Alan Jones and I were in the UK, Wally was as =
well. I know that Alan was short of funds and was working for the car =
collector Gerald Batt for a time so I don=E2=80=99t know if he came with =
me. The more I think of it the more I=E2=80=99m sure that both Wally and =
I went to the DHMC together and were given the Jensen-Healey keyrings.

=20

Hoo Roo

=20

Patrick

=20

From: Chris Dimmock [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 9:49 PM
To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn
Cc: Michael Oritt; Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

=20

Hey Patrick.=20

Snap!

Mostly because Wal had this habit of driving the Healey home in summer, =
dropping his watch and wallet, and then walking fully clothed into his =
pool....
He allowed me the same ritual back when I had a bugeye sprite

=20

On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

Hello

=20

=20

=20

Thanks

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains

Australia

=20

=20

;-)

Chris

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Good Morning Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>That was 41 years =
ago. While I have recollections of visiting the DHMC when it was still =
operating in the converted cinema, my memory is hazy who I went =
with.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Wally at the time was =
on a teacher exchange in Northern Ireland and drove around in a Triumph =
Herald with a map of Australia painted along both sides. He explained to =
me that he thought people would realise that he was Australian and =
therefore not shoot at him.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Anyway for a time =
when Alan Jones and I were in the UK, Wally was as well. I know that =
Alan was short of funds and was working for the car collector Gerald =
Batt for a time so I don=E2=80=99t know if he came with me. The more I =
think of it the more I=E2=80=99m sure that both Wally and I went to the =
DHMC together and were given the Jensen-Healey =
keyrings.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hoo =
Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Chris =
Dimmock [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 12 =
September 2016 9:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Patrick &amp; Caroline =
Quinn<br><b>Cc:</b> Michael Oritt; Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hey =
Patrick.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Snap!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>I've got the one Wally =
Gates got when he went to Warwick.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>It's pretty well =
used.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Mostly because Wal had this habit of driving the =
Healey home in summer, dropping his watch and wallet, and then walking =
fully clothed into his pool....<br>He allowed me the same ritual back =
when I had a bugeye sprite<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Stuffs your leather key ring =
though!!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick =
&amp; Caroline Quinn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hello</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Way back in 1975 when =
I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwick I was given a key =
ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the normal keyring =
that is still being produced today with the Union Jack on the top of the =
words =E2=80=9CDonald Healey Motor CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little time =
later I realised that instead of Austin-Healey at the top is =
Jensen-Healey in the same script as the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is =
hyphenated.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>In the 1974 book =
=E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter Browning and John =
Blunsden it is also hyphenated.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Patrick =
Quinn</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Blue Mountains</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Australia</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Dimmock<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael =
Oritt<br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 =
Mk III cloisonne front badge</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is =
interesting trivia!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly =
948's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my =
collection of Sprite owners handbooks, special tuning, schedule of =
workshop hours etc handbooks all have the hyphen. &nbsp;But there's no =
hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>I just think it's a BMC =
consistency control issue.......<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>I also had a very quick =
look at some trademark databases. The most recent &quot;Austin =
Healey&quot; and &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; trademark holders - British =
Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both =
variants as registered trademarks at various =
times.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever =
was to Austin / BMC - they probably had both variants trademarked too, =
so it didn't matter.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>So - was Jensen Healey =
always hyphenated or not??&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>;-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
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G'day Steve

Sometimes I wonder how much useful trivia a bloke can fit into his head.

What is interesting is that there is no clear demarcation date between the
end of the BT7 Mk2 and the beginning of the BJ7. The first BJ7 was built in
January 1962 and the last BT7 Mk2 was built in June 1962. So we had a
situation that both roadster and convertible Austin-Healey 3000s were being
built at the same time and it's possible to have a BT7 Mk2 that has a more
recent build date than a BJ7. This was a boon to the sales staff as it
allowed them to offer prospective buyers the choice of both.

So it doesn't surprise me that a BJ7 was fitted with a hyphenated badge.

Is there a clear point when the hyphen was deleted? Yes I think there was,
but heavens knows when, but it's probably down to a buying clerk
somewhere/sometime who slipped up on the order and then it became too late
to do anything about it.

Best wishes

Patrick Quinn

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of
BJ8Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2016 3:55 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

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G'day

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>G&#8217;day Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>Sometimes I wonder how much useful trivia a bloke can =
fit into his head.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>What is =
interesting is that there is no clear demarcation date between the end =
of the BT7 Mk2 and the beginning of the BJ7. The first BJ7 was built in =
January 1962 and the last BT7 Mk2 was built in June 1962. So we had a =
situation that both roadster and convertible Austin-Healey 3000s were =
being built at the same time and it&#8217;s possible to have a BT7 Mk2 =
that has a more recent build date than a BJ7. This was a boon to the =
sales staff as it allowed them to offer prospective buyers the choice of =
both.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>So it =
doesn&#8217;t surprise me that a BJ7 was fitted with a hyphenated =
badge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Is =
there a clear point when the hyphen was deleted? Yes I think there was, =
but heavens knows when, but it&#8217;s probably down to a buying clerk =
somewhere/sometime who slipped up on the order and then it became too =
late to do anything about it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Best =
wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>BJ8Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 September 2016 3:55 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Patrick, I have an original Mk II badge (from BJ7 20111, =
BMC assembly date 26 June - 5 July 1962) that has the hyphen (photo =
attached).&nbsp; I suppose it's possible the badge was intended for a =
BT7 Mk II but got installed on a BJ7 instead; but at least this one data =
point would suggest that one can't say for certain that the loss of the =
hyphen occurred with BJ7 production. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>Steve =
Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>BJ8 =
Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>Havelock, NC&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn<br>Sent: =
Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:58 PM<br>To: 'Bob Haskell'; 'Bob Spidell'; =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Subj=
ect: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>G'day<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>The addition of a hyphen between Austin and Healey is a =
question that still hasn't been suitably =
answered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Attached is a short article and pics I wrote for the =
Oct-Dec 2015 issue of the Australian Austin-Healey that might be of =
interest. I may be mistaken, but on looking at original examples the BT7 =
Mk2 originally had a hyphen, but with the introduction of the BJ7 it was =
deleted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Badges available today do not have the =
hyphen.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>Blue Mountains, =
Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
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> In fact this badge was also used on the BJ 8 hardtop. It was produced by R=
eeves and Co and they ran a batch few years back on the original tooling. I d=
o have a set stamped Reeves and Co and have a set on my hardtop.=20
> Current badges have been produced for key fobs by another vendor which is s=
lightly different but not noticeable by the average eye. I also have a fob f=
or comparison and color differences. Pictures sent in earlier email.
Ken

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n fact this badge was also used on the BJ 8 hardtop. It was produced by Reev=
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"AppleMailSignature">Mostly because Wal had this habit of driving the Healey=
 home in summer, dropping his watch and wallet, and then walking fully cloth=
ed into his pool....<br>He allowed me the same ritual back when I had a buge=
ye sprite</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Stuffs your leather key ring t=
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As a proof-reader I have always obeyed the rule that, where a car or truck
or motorcycle produced as a joint venture by two organisations, the name is
hyphenated to indicate that fact.  The only Austin Healey (without a hyphen)
that I know of used to play rugby football for England.

As an aside, I was told many years ago - and I don't recall by whom - that
the dropping of the hyphen may have been an administrative goof from the BMC
Purchasing Office on a long production run, too costly to re-tool with the
hyphen.  That may be an urban myth, but it does make for interesting
speculation over a few beers.

Mark Donaldson

Ardmore, NZ

  _____  

From: BJ8Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2016 5:55 a.m.
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

-----Original Message-----

G'day

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.5pt;color:navy'>As a proof-reader I have always obeyed the rule that, =
where a
car or truck or motorcycle produced as a joint venture by two =
organisations, the
name is hyphenated to indicate that fact.&nbsp; The only Austin Healey =
(without
a hyphen) that I know of used to play rugby football for =
<st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
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11.5pt;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.5pt;color:navy'>As an aside, I was told many years ago - and I don't =
recall by
whom - that the dropping of the hyphen may have been an administrative =
goof from
the BMC Purchasing Office on a long production run, too costly to =
re-tool with
the hyphen.&nbsp; That may be an urban myth, but it does make for =
interesting
speculation over a few beers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.5pt;color:navy'>Mark Donaldson<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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  color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:navy'>Ardmore</span></font></st1:place></=
st1:City><font
size=3D3 color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:navy'>, =
NZ<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</spa=
n></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
BJ8Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 13 =
September 2016
5:55 a.m.<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
[email-masked]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Healeys] =
3000 Mk III
cloisonne front badge</span></font><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Patrick, I have an original Mk II badge (from =
BJ7
20111, BMC assembly date 26 June - 5 July 1962) that has the hyphen =
(photo
attached).&nbsp; I suppose it's possible the badge was intended for a =
BT7 Mk II
but got installed on a BJ7 instead; but at least this one data point =
would
suggest that one can't say for certain that the loss of the hyphen =
occurred
with BJ7 production. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>AHCA Delegate at =
Large<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2
  face=3DConsolas><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Havelock</span></font></st1:City><span
 lang=3DEN-US>, <st1:State =
w:st=3D"on">NC</st1:State></span></st1:place><span
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Patrick
&amp; Caroline Quinn<br>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:58 PM<br>
To: 'Bob Haskell'; 'Bob Spidell'; [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>G'day<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>The addition of a hyphen between Austin and =
Healey is
a question that still hasn't been suitably =
answered.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Attached is a short article and pics I wrote =
for the
Oct-Dec 2015 issue of the Australian Austin-Healey that might be of =
interest. I
may be mistaken, but on looking at original examples the BT7 Mk2 =
originally had
a hyphen, but with the introduction of the BJ7 it was =
deleted.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Badges available today do not have the =
hyphen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
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w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
 =
w:st=3D"on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></span><=
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From: Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:10:10 +1000

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Hi Ken,
Yes, I see the difference.=20
I've also got the modern repro A-H key ring, but my favorite is my Sprinzel k=
ey ring. My BJ8 was sold new by John Sprinzel (see http://www.myaustinhealey=
.com/john-sprinzel-healey.html )
- so the Sprinzel key ring is authentic for the car, and an original.=20

Best
Chris

> On 15 Sep 2016, at 12:56 AM, Ken Fleming <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Attached below is an original BJ 8 hardtop badge and one from key fob. Dif=
ferences are the colors and spacing or no spacing between the words.
> Ken
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>> Mostly because Wal had this habit of driving the Healey home in summer, d=
ropping his watch and wallet, and then walking fully clothed into his pool..=
..
>>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <[email-masked]=
u> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Hello
>>> =20
>>> Way back in 1975 when I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwi=
ck I was given a key ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the n=
>>> =20
>>> In the 1974 book =E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter Br=
owning and John Blunsden it is also hyphenated.
>>> =20
>>> Thanks
>>> =20
>>> Patrick Quinn
>>> Blue Mountains
>>> Australia
>>> =20
>>> From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Chris=
 Dimmock
>>> I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) wit=
h a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handbo=
oks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all have the h=
yphen.  But there's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....
>>> I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most recen=
t "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Heri=
tage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants as registe=
red trademarks at various times.=20
>>> So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / BM=
C - they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter.=20=

>>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wrot=
>>> =20
>>> In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of import=
ant it is a curious occurrence.  I can understand how badges got used out of=
 sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an established brand and p=
robably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes m=
e wonder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of its product, a=
lbeit only by the omission of a dash.
>>> =20
>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahmg@ao=
l.com

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
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rence.&nbsp;</div><div>I've also got the modern repro A-H key ring, but my f=
avorite is my Sprinzel key ring. My BJ8 was sold new by John Sprinzel (see&n=
bsp;<a href=3D"http://www.myaustinhealey.com/john-sprinzel-healey.html">http=
://www.myaustinhealey.com/john-sprinzel-healey.html</a> )</div><div>- so the=
 Sprinzel key ring is authentic for the car, and an original.&nbsp;</div><di=
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a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D=
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-8"><div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D=
"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>Attached below is an original BJ 8 hardtop=
 badge and one from key fob. Differences are the colors and spacing or no sp=
acing between the words.</div><div>Ken</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">&=
lt;image1.jpeg&gt;&lt;image2.jpeg&gt;<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><=
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ot when he went to Warwick.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">It's p=
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Chris
This is a key fob that came with my car from original owner.  It is ambla ma=
terial with enclosure for keys with red felt.  I have never seen another and=
 he said he got from dealer when he purchased the car. A few year back I did=
 find another one on ebay but have never seen others beside the two I have. T=
hey are identical in construction with the exception of size. The  one with m=
y car is slightly shorter in length and yes I   do use it regularly.=20
Have you or does anyone have any insight on this accessory key fob since we a=
re on the subject?
Ken

Sent from my iPhone

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> I've also got the modern repro A-H key ring, but my favorite is my Sprinze=
l key ring. My BJ8 was sold new by John Sprinzel (see http://www.myaustinhea=
ley.com/john-sprinzel-healey.html )
>> Attached below is an original BJ 8 hardtop badge and one from key fob. Di=
fferences are the colors and spacing or no spacing between the words.
>> Ken
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]> wro=
>>>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <[email-masked].=
au> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Hello
>>>> =20
>>>> Way back in 1975 when I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in Warw=
ick I was given a key ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the=
 normal keyring that is still being produced today with the Union Jack on th=
e top of the words =E2=80=9CDonald Healey Motor CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little t=
ime later I realised that instead of Austin-Healey at the top is Jensen-Heal=
ey in the same script as the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is hyphenated.
>>>> =20
>>>> In the 1974 book =E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter B=
rowning and John Blunsden it is also hyphenated.
>>>> =20
>>>> Thanks
>>>> =20
>>>> Patrick Quinn
>>>> Blue Mountains
>>>> Australia
>>>> =20
>>>> From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Chri=
s Dimmock
>>>> I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) wi=
th a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handb=
ooks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all have the h=
yphen.  But there's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....
>>>> I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most rece=
nt "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Her=
itage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants as regist=
ered trademarks at various times.=20
>>>> So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / B=
MC - they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter.=20=

>>>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>>>>=20
>>>> When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not=
 view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kal=
er's message/site that I have been asking this same question since 2001--whi=
ch is pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget what seemed impor=
tant just a few minutes earlier.
>>>> =20
>>>> In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of impor=
tant it is a curious occurrence.  I can understand how badges got used out o=
f sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an established brand and p=
robably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes m=
e wonder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of its product, a=
lbeit only by the omission of a dash.
rote:
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>Chris</span></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><span style=3D"background-=
color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">This is a key fob that came with my car from=
 original owner. &nbsp;It is ambla material with enclosure for keys with red=
 felt. &nbsp;I have never seen another and he said he got from dealer when h=
e purchased the car. A few year back I did find another one on ebay but have=
 never seen others beside the two I have. They are identical in construction=
 with the exception of size. The &nbsp;one with my car is slightly shorter i=
n length and yes I &nbsp; do use it regularly.&nbsp;</span></div><div id=3D"=
AppleMailSignature"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);=
">Have you or does anyone have any insight on this accessory key fob since w=
e are on the subject?</span></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><span style=
=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Ken</span></div><div id=3D"Ap=
pleMailSignature"><img src=3D"cid:51AE1630-8550-4128-AD92-564A72A966EE" alt=3D=
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4AE0-A146-123DF0E88843"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255,=
 0);"><br>Sent from my iPhone</span></div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div>=
<br>On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Chris Dimmock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:austin.=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/h=
tml; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>Hi Ken,</div><div>Yes, I see the difference.&nbsp=
;</div><div>I've also got the modern repro A-H key ring, but my favorite is m=
y Sprinzel key ring. My BJ8 was sold new by John Sprinzel (see&nbsp;<a href=3D=
"http://www.myaustinhealey.com/john-sprinzel-healey.html">http://www.myausti=
nhealey.com/john-sprinzel-healey.html</a> )</div><div>- so the Sprinzel key r=
ing is authentic for the car, and an original.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><di=
v>&lt;image1.JPG&gt;<br><br><div>Best</div></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignatu=
re">Chris</div><div><br>On 15 Sep 2016, at 12:56 AM, Ken Fleming &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html;=
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ype" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div><span></span></div><div><me=
ta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>A=
ttached below is an original BJ 8 hardtop badge and one from key fob. Differ=
ences are the colors and spacing or no spacing between the words.</div><div>=
Ken</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">&lt;image1.jpeg&gt;&lt;image2.jpeg&g=
t;<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Chr=
is Dimmock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">austin.healey@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-=
equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>Hey Patri=
ck.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Snap!</div><div id=3D"AppleMai=
lSignature">I've got the one Wally Gates got when he went to Warwick.&nbsp;<=
/div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">It's pretty well used.&nbsp;</div><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature">Mostly because Wal had this habit of driving the He=
aley home in summer, dropping his watch and wallet, and then walking fully c=
lothed into his pool....<br>He allowed me the same ritual back when I had a b=
ugeye sprite</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Stuffs your leather key rin=
g though!!<br><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">&lt;image1.JPG&gt;<br=
></div><div><br>On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
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