Subject: Re: [Healeys] Non Healey engine question.

From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:20:27 -0700

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If there is no piston no piston damage, then you should be safe to assume
its a non-interference engine. I had a Subaru timing gear explode at idle
and it destroyed the engine.

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Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:23 AM, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I have been tasked with repairing my B in L's 2008 Saturn Astra.
> 1.8 litre Ecotec engine.
> Cam belt shredded.
> Some sites say this an interferrence engine some not... I can see no
> evidence of the valves having touched any piston.
> The exhaust cam appears to have slipped about 270 degrees and there is NO
> compression.
> The question is...if there are no marks on the pistons can I be fairly
> confident that the valves are okay and installing a new belt and resetting
> the timing will be all that is needed?
> Michael S
> BN1 # 174
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If there is no piston no piston damage, then you should be=
 safe to assume its a non-interference engine. I had a Subaru timing gear e=
xplode at idle and it destroyed the engine.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:23 AM,  <span dir=
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:1ex"><p dir=3D"auto">I have been tasked with repairing my B in L&#39;s 200=
8 Saturn Astra.<br>
1.8 litre Ecotec engine. <br>
Cam belt shredded.<br>
Some sites say this an interferrence engine some not... I can see no eviden=
ce of the valves having touched any piston.<br>
The exhaust cam appears to have slipped about 270 degrees and there is NO c=
ompression.<br>
The question is...if there are no marks on the pistons can I be fairly conf=
ident that the valves are okay and installing a new belt and resetting the =
timing will be all that is needed?<br>
Michael S<br>
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From: David Porter <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:02:30 -0600

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...flood the combustion chambers with fuel.. leak by test. Do the valves 
move smoothly through the range of travel.... dave

On 9/16/2016 8:23 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
> The exhaust cam appears to have slipped about 270 degrees and there is 
> NO compression.
> confident that the valves are okay and installing a new belt and 
> resetting the timing will be all that is needed?
> Michael S
> BN1 # 174
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    <p>...flood the combustion chambers with fuel.. leak by test. Do the
      valves move smoothly through the range of travel.... dave<br>
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      <p dir="auto">I have been tasked with repairing my B in L's 2008
        Saturn Astra.<br>
        1.8 litre Ecotec engine. <br>
        Cam belt shredded.<br>
        Some sites say this an interferrence engine some not... I can
        see no evidence of the valves having touched any piston.<br>
        The exhaust cam appears to have slipped about 270 degrees and
        there is NO compression.<br>
        The question is...if there are no marks on the pistons can I be
        fairly confident that the valves are okay and installing a new
        belt and resetting the timing will be all that is needed?<br>
        Michael S<br>
        BN1 # 174 <br>
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I'm pretty sure the Saturn motor is an interference engine so it looks like
you dodged a bullet.  If the motor didn't blow up, I'd say you are likely
good to go.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m pretty sure the Saturn motor is an interference en=
gine so it looks like you dodged a bullet.=C2=A0 If the motor didn&#39;t bl=
ow up, I&#39;d say you are likely good to go.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 2:02 AM, David Po=
rter <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
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    <p>...flood the combustion chambers with fuel.. leak by test. Do the
      valves move smoothly through the range of travel.... dave<br>
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    <div>On 9/16/2016 8:23 AM,
      <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Michael=
[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br>
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    </div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"h5">
      <p dir=3D"auto">I have been tasked with repairing my B in L&#39;s 200=
8
        Saturn Astra.<br>
        1.8 litre Ecotec engine. <br>
        Cam belt shredded.<br>
        Some sites say this an interferrence engine some not... I can
        see no evidence of the valves having touched any piston.<br>
        The exhaust cam appears to have slipped about 270 degrees and
        there is NO compression.<br>
        The question is...if there are no marks on the pistons can I be
        fairly confident that the valves are okay and installing a new
        belt and resetting the timing will be all that is needed?<br>
        Michael S<br>
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Thanks for the words of wisdom... I guess I will shell out for a new belt a=
nd see if it has compression..

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:10 PM -0400, "Alan Seigrist" <[email-masked]=
m> wrote:

I'm pretty sure the Saturn motor is an interference engine so it looks like=
 you dodged a bullet.=C2=A0 If the motor didn't blow up, I'd say you are li=
kely good to go.
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rote:

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...flood the combustion chambers with fuel.. leak by test. Do the
      valves move smoothly through the range of travel.... dave

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I have been tasked with repairing my B in L's 2008
        Saturn Astra.

        1.8 litre Ecotec engine.=20

        Cam belt shredded.

        Some sites say this an interferrence engine some not... I can
        see no evidence of the valves having touched any piston.

        there is NO compression.

        The question is...if there are no marks on the pistons can I be
        fairly confident that the valves are okay and installing a new
        belt and resetting the timing will be all that is needed?

        Michael S

        BN1 # 174=20

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<html><head></head><body><p dir="auto">Thanks for the words of wisdom... I guess I will shell out for a new belt and see if it has compression..<br></p>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm pretty sure the Saturn motor is an interference engine so it looks like you dodged a bullet.&nbsp; If the motor didn't blow up, I'd say you are likely good to go.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 2:02 AM, David Porter <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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    <p>...flood the combustion chambers with fuel.. leak by test. Do the
      valves move smoothly through the range of travel.... dave<br>
    </p><div><div class="h5">
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    <div>On 9/16/2016 8:23 AM,
      <a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="auto">I have been tasked with repairing my B in L's 2008
        Saturn Astra.<br>
        1.8 litre Ecotec engine. <br>
        Cam belt shredded.<br>
        Some sites say this an interferrence engine some not... I can
        see no evidence of the valves having touched any piston.<br>
        The exhaust cam appears to have slipped about 270 degrees and
        there is NO compression.<br>
        The question is...if there are no marks on the pistons can I be
        fairly confident that the valves are okay and installing a new
        belt and resetting the timing will be all that is needed?<br>
        Michael S<br>
        BN1 # 174 <br>
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