Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:47:56 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Bob,

I think that what you are contemplating would be very difficult.

I know of one roadster that has been converted to a convertible but the mod=
ifications involved replacing the front and=C2=A0 rear shrouds, the door hi=
nge posts, the doors, the upper surface of the scuttle and the doors.

Mounts for the top frame were required and of course the convertible windsh=
ield assembly had to be fitted.

Definitely something requiring serious commitment.=20

Michael S=20

BN1 #174

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:12 AM -0400, <[email-masked]> wrote:

Dear Listers,

I own a 1961 BT7 3000 Mk I, four-seater version, which was fitted with
the factory hardtop. I like the hard top, but I would like to fit the car
for a convertible top. Is that feasible? I know that the Mark II's came
out with a convertible top, which I believe, became the standard. Has
anyone out there fitted a convertible top to a BT7 four-seater? If so, I
would love to hear from you. I am guessing that because the BT7's prior
to the change over did not have roll up windows, that there might be some
problems arising from the fit of the sliding winows to the convertible
top. Please correct me if I am in error.

Thanks for any help or advice,

Bob in Bellflower, CA.
1961 BT7 under restoration.

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<html><head></head><body><p dir="auto" style=" text-align: left; margin-top: 25px; margin-bottom: 25px; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black; background-color: white ">Hi Bob,<br>
I think that what you are contemplating would be very difficult.<br>
I know of one roadster that has been converted to a convertible but the modifications involved replacing the front and&nbsp; rear shrouds, the door hinge posts, the doors, the upper surface of the scuttle and the doors.<br>
Mounts for the top frame were required and of course the convertible windshield assembly had to be fitted.<br>
Definitely something requiring serious commitment. <br>
Michael S <br>
BN1 #174<br></p>
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<pre>Dear Listers,

I own a 1961 BT7 3000 Mk I, four-seater version, which was fitted with
the factory hardtop. I like the hard top, but I would like to fit the car
for a convertible top. Is that feasible? I know that the Mark II's came
out with a convertible top, which I believe, became the standard. Has
anyone out there fitted a convertible top to a BT7 four-seater? If so, I
would love to hear from you. I am guessing that because the BT7's prior
to the change over did not have roll up windows, that there might be some
problems arising from the fit of the sliding winows to the convertible
top. Please correct me if I am in error.

Thanks for any help or advice,

Bob in Bellflower, CA.
1961 BT7 under restoration.

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From: Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:51:32 +0200

Hi
As Michael Salter already pointed out it would be very difficult. If you want a convertible, try to get hold of a BJ7 or BJ8. But you can add a soft top to your BT7 quite easily.  Just buy one, they are not very expensive. The soft top is stored behind the back seat, so invisible when not erected, in contrast to the convertible top that disturbs the lines of the Healey.

Per

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From: "Charlie Schott" <[email-masked]>
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Bob,

I have a 1960 BT7 that I fitted with a convertible top. The frame came with 
the car and I bought the top from Moss. If you have a pair of holes on each 
side behind the doors, then it should be no problem. One set of holes is for 
the tonneau bar and the other is for the top frame, which is removable when 
the top is down and is stored behind the back of the rear seats. See the 
attached photos.

Regards,

Charlie

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From: [email-masked]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 2:00 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

Dear Listers,

Bob in Bellflower, CA.

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From: "John Sims" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:10:40 -0400

I have been following this thread and am wondering if we are confusing a
convertible top which is one that is ATTACHED to the car permanently with a
removable top - one that is found on the roadsters and is totally
removeable.

John Sims
Aberdeen, NJ

www.healey6.com

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Charlie
Schott
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 3:28 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

Bob,

Regards,

Charlie

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 2:00 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

Dear Listers,

I own a 1961 BT7 3000 Mk I, four-seater version, which was fitted with the
factory hardtop. I like the hard top, but I would like to fit the car for a
convertible top. Is that feasible? I know that the Mark II's came out with a
convertible top, which I believe, became the standard. Has anyone out there
fitted a convertible top to a BT7 four-seater? If so, I would love to hear
from you. I am guessing that because the BT7's prior to the change over did
not have roll up windows, that there might be some problems arising from the
fit of the sliding winows to the convertible top. Please correct me if I am
in error.

Bob in Bellflower, CA.

$12.75

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From: Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 01:31:47 +0200

Gents
I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this and you will get the terms right.

Best regards, Per

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> 25 sep. 2016 kl. 21:27 skrev Charlie Schott <[email-masked]>:
> 
> Bob,
> 
> I have a 1960 BT7 that I fitted with a convertible top. The frame came with the car and I bought the top from Moss. If you have a pair of holes on each side behind the doors, then it should be no problem. One set of holes is for the tonneau bar and the other is for the top frame, which is removable when the top is down and is stored behind the back of the rear seats. See the attached photos.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Charlie
> 
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 18:27:15 +0000 (UTC)

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So what is a BN2? It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely fixed =
to the car (by 6 bolts)? I always considered it a roadster, just like my da=
d's Model A.=20

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Gents=20
I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle th=
at has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case is w=
ith BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removable, =
and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this and yo=
u will get the terms right.=20

Best regards, Per=20

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<div><br></div>Gents<br>I think we have to get the definitions right. A con=
vertible is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the=
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t the top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple=
 Googling on this and you will get the terms right.<br><div><br></div>Best =
regards, Per<br><div><br></div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<br><div><br></div=
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Bob
That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car? Sorr=
y for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit that th=
ere are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as roadsters I've n=
ever thought about it.

Best regards, Per

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> 26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>:
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> So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely fixe=
d to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, just like my d=
ad's Model A.
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> Gents
> I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle t=
hat has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case is w=
ith BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removable, a=
nd is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this and you w=
ill get the terms right.
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">That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car? So=
rry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit that t=
here are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as roadsters I've=
 never thought about it.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature">Best regards, Per<br><br>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad=
</div><div><br>26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><br></div><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; col=
or: #000000"><div>So what is a BN2? &nbsp;It has an erectable hood, and it's=
 most definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)? &nbsp;I always considered it=
 a roadster, just like my dad's Model A.<br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"z=
wchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-dec=
oration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b></b>=
<br><div><br></div>Gents<br>I think we have to get the definitions right. A c=
onvertible is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to th=
e car. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning tha=
t the top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple G=
oogling on this and you will get the terms right.<br><div><br></div>Best reg=
ards, Per<br><div><br></div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<br><div><br></div><di=
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 19:13:17 +0000 (UTC)

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Yep, frame is bolted to the, uh, frame by 6 bolts--3 on either side--and is=
 'erectable' (not a word, but you get the idea). Frame comes up easy with a=
 tug, then you spend the next half-hour buttoning it down.=20

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From: "Per Schoerner" <[email-masked]>=20
To: "Bob Spidell" <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: "Charlie Schott" <[email-masked]>, "healeys" <[email-masked]=
et>=20
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:06:58 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.=20

Bob=20
That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car? Sor=
ry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit that =
there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as roadsters I'=
ve never thought about it.=20

Best regards, Per=20

26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell < [email-masked] >:=20

----- Original Message -----

Gents=20

Best regards, Per=20

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e--and is 'erectable' (not a word, but you get the idea). &nbsp;Frame comes=
 up easy with a tug, then you spend the next half-hour buttoning it down.</=
div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:no=
rmal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Per Schoerner" &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Bob Spidell" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>=
"Charlie Schott" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "healeys" &lt;[email-masked]=
eam.net&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, September 26, 2016 12:06:58 PM<br><b>Su=
bject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.<br><div><br></div><div>Bob</div><=
div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the fr=
ame also fixed to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow o=
n trees over here. Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always =
have seen them as roadsters I've never thought about it.</div><div id=3D"Ap=
pleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Best regards, Pe=
r<br><div><br></div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div><div><br>26 sep. 2016 k=
l. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><div><br></div></div><blockq=
uote><div><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000=
"><div>So what is a BN2? &nbsp;It has an erectable hood, and it's most defi=
nitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)? &nbsp;I always considered it a roadst=
er, just like my dad's Model A.<br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><d=
iv style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration=
:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b></b><br><d=
iv><br></div>Gents<br>I think we have to get the definitions right. A conve=
rtible is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the c=
ar. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that =
the top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple G=
oogling on this and you will get the terms right.<br><div><br></div>Best re=
gards, Per<br><div><br></div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<br><div><br></div><=
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Hi
Perhaps we should redefine the term then, by saying a convertible is a vehic=
le with a top that is fixed to the body AND quick and easy to erect. That wo=
uld make the BN2 a roadster again, wouldn't it.=20
But I wonder what the rest of the world would think of this idea =F0=9F=A4=94=

Per

> 26 sep. 2016 kl. 21:13 skrev Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>:
>=20
> Yep, frame is bolted to the, uh, frame by 6 bolts--3 on either side--and i=
s 'erectable' (not a word, but you get the idea).  Frame comes up easy with a=
 tug, then you spend the next half-hour buttoning it down.
>=20
> From: "Per Schoerner" <[email-masked]>
> To: "Bob Spidell" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: "Charlie Schott" <[email-masked]>, "healeys" <[email-masked].=
net>
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:06:58 PM
> That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car? So=
 never thought about it.
> Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"=
>Perhaps we should redefine the term then, by saying a convertible is a vehi=
cle with a top that is fixed to the body AND quick and easy to erect. That w=
ould make the BN2 a roadster again, wouldn't it.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"Apple=
MailSignature">But I wonder what the rest of the world would think of this i=
dea =F0=9F=A4=94</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"Ap=
pleMailSignature">Per<br><br>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div><div><br>26 sep=
. 2016 kl. 21:13 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Yep=
, frame is bolted to the, uh, frame by 6 bolts--3 on either side--and is 'er=
ectable' (not a word, but you get the idea). &nbsp;Frame comes up easy with a=
 tug, then you spend the next half-hour buttoning it down.</div><div><br></d=
iv><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:n=
ormal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Per Schoerner" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Bob Spidell" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:b=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"Charlie Sch=
ott" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,=
 "healeys" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, September 26, 2016 12:06:58 PM<br><b>Sub=
ject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.<br><div><br></div><div>Bob</div><di=
v id=3D"AppleMailSignature">That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame=
 also fixed to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on tr=
ees over here. Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always have s=
een them as roadsters I've never thought about it.</div><div id=3D"AppleMail=
Signature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Best regards, Per<br><di=
v><br></div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div><div><br>26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 s=
krev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><div><br></div></div><blockquote><div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>So wha=
t is a BN2? &nbsp;It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely fixed t=
o the car (by 6 bolts)? &nbsp;I always considered it a roadster, just like m=
y dad's Model A.<br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"colo=
r:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family=
:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b></b><br><div><br></div>Gents=
<br>I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle=
 that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case is=
 with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removable,=
 and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this and yo=
u will get the terms right.<br><div><br></div>Best regards, Per<br><div><br>=
</div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div=
><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div></div></block=
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    <p>As this thread goes on I'm getting more confused....   <br>
    </p>
    <p>I have a BN1 and always thought of it as a "roadster".   It would
      not be by this definition.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>Are we venturing off to locality colloquialisms?   Maybe a
      "roadster" is different on the two sides of the pond.   My BN1
      factory service manual has a picture of the car with the hood up. 
      Not even close over here, the hood to me is what would be called
      the bonnet over there in the UK or GB.   But the "hood"  in the
      picture is the roadster/convertible top. <br>
    </p>
    <p>To add to the confusion and throw a little fuel on the fire.... 
        Right or wrong I've heard and seen the early Healey's and other
      British Sport cars call  "drop head coupes".  What is the true
      definition of that nomenclature?  <br>
    </p>
    <p>Bob</p>
    <p>55 BN1  <br>
    </p>
    <p>And a bunch of Brit Bikes</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>\On 9/26/2016 2:27 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">
          <div>So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's
            most definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always
            considered it a roadster, just like my dad's Model A.<br>
          </div>
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            </div>
            Gents<br>
            I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible
            is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed
            to the car. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a
            roadster, meaning that the top is removable, and is not
            fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this
            and you will get the terms right.<br>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            Best regards, Per<br>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            Skickat från min iPad<br>
            <div><br>
            </div>
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It=E2=80=99s a roadster as it has no door windows.

=20

In the BN3/1 you can erect the hood from the driver=E2=80=99s seat as =
both the bows and top are connected to the body, but it=E2=80=99s still =
a roadster as it has no door windows.

=20

Hoo Roo

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Per =
Schoerner
Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2016 5:07 AM
To: Bob Spidell
Cc: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

=20

Bob

That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car? =
Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit =
that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as =
roadsters I've never thought about it.

=20

Best regards, Per

So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely =
fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, just =
like my dad's Model A.

=20

  _____ =20

=20

=20

Gents
I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle =
that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case =
is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is =
removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling =
on this and you will get the terms right.

=20

Best regards, Per

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[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Per =
Schoerner<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 27 September 2016 5:07 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>That's too difficult, not =
fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, =
but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit that there are a few =
around, but as I also always have seen them as roadsters I've never =
thought about it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Best regards, =
Per<br><br>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>26 sep. 2016 kl. =
20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
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style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>So what is a BN2? =
&nbsp;It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely fixed to the =
car (by 6 bolts)? &nbsp;I always considered it a roadster, just like my =
dad's Model A.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Gents<br>I =
think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle =
that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case =
is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is =
removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling =
on this and you will get the terms right.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
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Photo of hood mechanism fastened to body (just behind the door catch; 
fingerprints optional).

You'd think just 3 bolts/side would be a piece of cake to install, but 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ..

On 9/26/2016 12:06 PM, Per Schoerner wrote:
> Bob
> That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the 
> car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over 
> here. Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always have 
> seen them as roadsters I've never thought about it.
>
> Best regards, Per
>
> Skickat från min iPad
>
> 26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell <[email-masked] 
>
>> So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely 
>> fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, 
>> just like my dad's Model A.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Gents
>> I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a 
>> vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. 
>> Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning 
>> that the top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest 
>> a simple Googling on this and you will get the terms right.
>>
>> Best regards, Per
>>
>> Skickat från min iPad
>>
>>
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    <p>Photo of hood mechanism fastened to body (just behind the door
      catch; fingerprints optional).</p>
    <p>You'd think just 3 bolts/side would be a piece of cake to
      install, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ..<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/26/2016 12:06 PM, Per Schoerner
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>Bob</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">That's too difficult, not fair ;-).
        Is the frame also fixed to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, but
        BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit that there are a
        few around, but as I also always have seen them as roadsters
        I've never thought about it.</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
      </div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">Best regards, Per<br>
        <br>
        Skickat från min iPad</div>
      <div><br>
        26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br>
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            <div>So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's
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              Gents<br>
              I think we have to get the definitions right. A
              convertible is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the
              top is fixed to the car. Like the case is with BJ7 and
              BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is
              removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a
              simple Googling on this and you will get the terms right.<br>
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BN2, BN1 are roadsters  Top of door is a continuation of the dash and the
top is removed from the frame.
Convertibles have the dash interrupted by window wings and top is fixed to
the car..

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
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*Aerodynamics are for people who can=E2=80=99t build engines.* =E2=80=93 *E=
nzo Ferrari*
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Per Schoerner <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Bob
> That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car?
> Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. Admit
> that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them as
> fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it a roadster, just
> like my dad's Model A.
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> Gents
> I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle
is
> with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removabl=
e,
> and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this and
> you will get the terms right.
>
> Best regards, Per
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<div dir=3D"ltr">BN2, BN1 are roadsters =C2=A0Top of door is a continuation=
 of the dash and the top is removed from the frame.<div>Convertibles have t=
he dash interrupted by window wings and top is fixed to the car..=C2=A0</di=
v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gma=
il_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">I=
ra Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New=
 Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
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=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roma=
n&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"=
font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#3=
9;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (__________=
_______________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 en=
gine and disk brakes</div><div><strong style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;bord=
er:0px;outline:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background:rgb(0,=
0,0);color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif">Aerodynamics are for pe=
ople who can=E2=80=99t build engines.</strong><span style=3D"color:rgb(255,=
255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(0,0,0)"=
>=C2=A0=E2=80=93=C2=A0</span><em style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px=
;outline:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background:rgb(0,0,0);c=
olor:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif">Enzo Ferrari</em><br></div><d=
iv>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Per Schoer=
ner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Bob</div><div>That&#39;s too difficult, not fair =
;-). Is the frame also fixed to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s =
doesn&#39;t grow on trees over here. Admit that there are a few around, but=
 as I also always have seen them as roadsters I&#39;ve never thought about =
it.</div><span class=3D""><div><br></div><div>Best regards, Per<br><br>Skic=
kat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div></span><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>26 sep. =
2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;:<br><br></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#00=
0000"><div>So what is a BN2?=C2=A0 It has an erectable hood, and it&#39;s m=
ost definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?=C2=A0 I always considered it =
a roadster, just like my dad&#39;s Model A.<br></div><div><br></div><hr><di=
v style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:=
none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b></b><br><div=
><br></div>Gents<br>I think we have to get the definitions right. A convert=
ible is a vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car=
. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that th=
e top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Goo=
gling on this and you will get the terms right.<br><div><br></div>Best rega=
rds, Per<br><div><br></div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad<br><div><br></div><di=
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Bob--

I have always thought that a 100 (BN1/2) lies somewhere between a roadster,
which has a removable rag top as in a BN/BT 6-7 and a convertible with a
pull-up top as in the BJ's.

It is neither one nor the other....

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</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I have always thought that a=
 100 (BN1/2) lies somewhere between a roadster, which has a removable rag t=
op as in a BN/BT 6-7 and a convertible with a pull-up top as in the BJ&#39;=
s. =C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">It is neither one n=
or the other....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michae=
l Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
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0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div>So what is a BN2?=C2=A0 =
It has an erectable hood, and it&#39;s most definitely fixed to the car (by=
 6 bolts)?=C2=A0 I always considered it a roadster, just like my dad&#39;s =
Model A.<br></div><div><br></div><hr><span class=3D""><div style=3D"color:#=
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that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case is=
 with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removable=
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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:05:05 -0400

I think MGBs were call roadsters (removable top) and tourers (permanent 
top) - just to add to the confusion.  Different generation.

Then there's:
	BN-1: two seater
	BN-2: two seater
	BN-4: four seater
	BN-6: two seater
	BN-7: two seater
	BT-7: four seater

So, should it have been a BT-4 instead of BN-4? :)

Patrick - your BN-3 a two seater?

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
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http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php

On 09/26/2016 03:22 PM, Per Schoerner wrote:
> Hi
> Perhaps we should redefine the term then, by saying a convertible is a
> vehicle with a top that is fixed to the body AND quick and easy to
> erect. That would make the BN2 a roadster again, wouldn't it.
> But I wonder what the rest of the world would think of this idea 🤔
>
> Per
>
> Skickat från min iPad
>
> 26 sep. 2016 kl. 21:13 skrev Bob Spidell <[email-masked]
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>:
>
>> Yep, frame is bolted to the, uh, frame by 6 bolts--3 on either
>> side--and is 'erectable' (not a word, but you get the idea).  Frame
>> comes up easy with a tug, then you spend the next half-hour buttoning
>> it down.
>>
>> *From: *"Per Schoerner" <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>
>> *To: *"Bob Spidell" <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>
>> *Cc: *"Charlie Schott" <[email-masked]
>> <mailto:[email-masked]>>, "healeys" <[email-masked]
>> <mailto:[email-masked]>>
>> *Sent: *Monday, September 26, 2016 12:06:58 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.
>>
>> Bob
>> <mailto:[email-masked]>>:
>>
>>     So what is a BN2?  It has an erectable hood, and it's most
>>     definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)?  I always considered it
>>     a roadster, just like my dad's Model A.
>>
>>     **
>>     that the top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I
>>     suggest a simple Googling on this and you will get the terms right.
>>
>>     Best regards, Per
>>
>>     Skickat från min iPad
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 07:45:47 +1000

G'day

The BN3/1 which I have owned since 1974, is the 100 that not only had the six-cylinder shoehorned into it by the DHMC, but is the first 2+2 Austin-Healey built. It was taken to Jensen to try out the idea of DMH of the extra seating.

It is a four seater.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn

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To: Per Schoerner
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.

Then there's:
	BN-1: two seater
	BN-2: two seater
	BN-4: four seater
	BN-6: two seater
	BN-7: two seater
	BT-7: four seater

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar

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From: Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:21:29 +1000

So when you spell it out like that, it begs the question...
Where is the BN5?
What barn is it in?
I know the Sprite was an AN5 
Chris 

> On 27 Sep 2016, at 11:05 AM, Bob Haskell <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I think MGBs were call roadsters (removable top) and tourers (permanent top) - just to add to the confusion.  Different generation.
> 
> Then there's:
>    BN-1: two seater
>    BN-2: two seater
>    BN-4: four seater
>    BN-6: two seater
>    BN-7: two seater
>    BT-7: four seater
> 

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