Subject: Re: [Healeys] Black faces

From: Keith Pennell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 02:00:19 +0000 (UTC)

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Well I can only add that the two BJ8s I have owned had body color for the d=
eflectors.

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From: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>; i erbs <eyera3000@gm=
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Cc: Ahealey help <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2018 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Black faces

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1794532WordSection1 {} #yiv6101794532 Ira,It looks like you and Michael are=
 talking about two different models here. Michael is giving you the referen=
ces about the Austin-Healey 100 and you own a BN4 which does not have the s=
ame front pieces.Having said that, your car has only one=C2=A0 front =E2=80=
=9CX=E2=80=9D brace and yes it is painted black. As far as the =E2=80=9Cair=
 intake Deflector is concerned, it is also painted black=C2=A0 as well as t=
he brace at the bottom of it.The rear shroud bottom edge is also painted se=
mi gloss black, on some cars BJ8 it has been seen is glossy black. I do not=
 have photos of this area but that is the area where your rear shroud meets=
 the rear floor, held by flat head rivets. =C2=A0 Jean =C2=A0 Sent from Mai=
l for Windows 10 =C2=A0  =C2=A0 From: Healeys <[email-masked]=
et> on behalf of Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:54:20 PM
To: i erbs
Cc: Ahealey help
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Black faces=C2=A0Again from the Concours Guidelines.=
 2018 Edition Pg 91.

=C2=A0Double front X-braces immediately behind the grille are painted body =
color, except some white cars had this brace painted black 44.
=E2=80=A2 Front inner apron panels fastened to vertical division panels usi=
ng pan head Phillips screws and large flat washers, which were also painted=
 body color. Very early cars have been found to have only the horizontal pa=
nel and not the vertical one. In these cases where the vertical panel is mi=
ssing, the two holes located on the front-to-back center portion of the pan=
el are missing.=C2=A0 On OEW 100s where the engine compartment was painted =
black, these inner apron panels were also black.
44 If you find your car fits the exception document it and restore, as you =
believe it was.=C2=A0 Otherwise, paint the braces body color.

Michael SalterTechnical Editor (Big Healeys)
The Austin-Healey Concours Registry

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:43 PM i erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:

Can someone post a photo of the lip?My brace is painted blue, but everyone =
tells me to paint it black before I reinstall my grille... What about the a=
ir dam, should it be black or body color?
Ira ErbsPortland,OR=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes

1967 MGB =C2=A0
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:

>From the Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:

Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):=C2=A0 "The X-brace in front of the=
 radiator was brush painted black (except on black cars0 so that it wouldn'=
t be visible through the grille opening."
Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):=C2=A0 "The lower lip of the rear s=
hroud was brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on all b=
ut black cars, probably to make the lower shroud lip less noticeable."

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC=C2=A0=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Ofjosef-eck=
[email-masked]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:26 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Black faces

I read the following question recently on facebook, but no clear=C2=A0 answ=
er was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross panel in front of =
the radiator?

Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted (semigloss) b=
lack on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same was with the cross panel fro=
nt face in front of the radiator? Are there other body panels which are not=
 just bolt on painted in black?

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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'2' face=3D'arial'>Well I can only add that th=
e two BJ8s I have owned had body color for the deflectors.<br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Jean Caron &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; i erbs &lt;eye=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: Ahealey help &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2018 4:35 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Black faces<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv6101794532MsoNormal">It looks like you and Michael are tal=
king about two different models here. Michael is giving you the references =
about the Austin-Healey 100 and you own a BN4 which does not have the same =
front pieces.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv6101794532MsoNormal">Having said that, your car has only o=
ne&nbsp; front =E2=80=9CX=E2=80=9D brace and yes it is painted black. As fa=
r as the =E2=80=9Cair intake Deflector is concerned, it is also painted bla=
ck&nbsp; as well as the brace at the bottom of it.
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv6101794532MsoNormal">The rear shroud bottom edge is also p=
ainted semi gloss black, on some cars BJ8 it has been seen is glossy black.=
 I do not have photos of this area but that is the area where your rear shr=
oud meets the rear floor, held by flat head rivets.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv6101794532MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv6101794532MsoNormal">Jean</div>

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 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Michael Salter &lt;mic=
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255);"><i>&nbsp;Double front X-braces immediat=
ely behind the grille are painted body color, except some white cars had th=
is brace painted black 44.
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=E2=80=A2 Front inner apron panels fastened to vertical division panels usi=
ng pan head Phillips screws and large flat washers, which were also painted=
 body color. Very early cars have been found to have only the horizontal pa=
nel and not the vertical one. In these cases
 where the vertical panel is missing, the two holes located on the front-to=
-back center portion of the panel are missing.&nbsp; On OEW 100s where the =
engine compartment was painted black, these inner apron panels were also bl=
ack.</i></span></div>

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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255);"><i>44 If you find your car fits the exc=
eption document it and restore, as you believe it was.&nbsp; Otherwise, pai=
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to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">

<div dir=3D"ltr">Can someone post a photo of the lip?

<div>My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black befo=
re I reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, should it be black or b=
ody color?<br clear=3D"all">

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs

<div>Portland,OR</div>

<div><span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _______ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp;_______</span><br clear=3D"none">
<span>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br cle=
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<span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (_________________________)</span><=
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<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BT7 engine and disk brakes</div>

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<div>1967 MGB &nbsp;<img alt=3D"MG" src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists=
.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg"></div>

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<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);">A racing car is an animal with a =
thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shap=
e=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br clear=3D"none">
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
>From the Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):&nbsp; "The X-brace in front of the=
 radiator was brush painted black (except on black cars0 so that it wouldn'=
t be visible through the grille opening."<br clear=3D"none">
Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):&nbsp; "The lower lip of the rear s=
hroud was brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on all b=
ut black cars, probably to make the lower shroud lip less noticeable."<br c=
lear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Steve Byers<br clear=3D"none">
HBJ8L/36666<br clear=3D"none">
BJ8 Registry<br clear=3D"none">
AHCA Delegate at Large<br clear=3D"none">
Havelock, NC&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">
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From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto=
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Subject: [Healeys] Black faces<br clear=3D"none">
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I read the following question recently on facebook, but no clear&nbsp; answ=
er was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross panel in front of =
the radiator?<br clear=3D"none">
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Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted (semigloss) b=
lack on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same was with the cross panel fro=
nt face in front of the radiator? Are there other body panels which are not=
 just bolt on painted in black?<br clear=3D"none">
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