Subject: [Healeys] Black faces

From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:26:19 +0100 (CET)

I read the following question recently on facebook, but no clear  answer was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross panel in front of the radiator?

Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted (semigloss) black on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same was with the cross panel front face in front of the radiator? Are there other body panels which are not just bolt on painted in black?

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Hi Josef, I  think if you check the Facebook page you will fint that I
answered that question however,  in case you missed it here are the answers
again:

"Well Marc I  think you need a copy of the Concours Guidelineshttp://
healey.org/concours-guidelines.html.

>From late BN1s, as early as cars built in 1954, and onwards, cars finished
in lighter colors, particularly Healey Blue, Florida Green, Carmine Red and
Ivory-White appear to have had the lip around the bottom of the rear shroud
brush-painted in black."

I also answered Marc on the question of the brace as well quoting from the
Guidelines.

M

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> I read the following question recently on facebook, but no clear  answer
> was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross panel in front of t=
he
> radiator?
>
> Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted (semigloss)
> black on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same was with the cross panel
> front face in front of the radiator? Are there other body panels which ar=
e
> not just bolt on painted in black?
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi Josef, I=C2=A0 think if you check the Facebook pa=
ge you will fint that I answered that question however,=C2=A0 in case you m=
issed it here are the answers again:<div dir=3D"auto"><br><div dir=3D"auto"=
><div dir=3D"auto">&quot;Well Marc I=C2=A0 think you need a copy of the Con=
cours Guidelineshttp://<a href=3D"http://healey.org/concours-guidelines.htm=
l">healey.org/concours-guidelines.html</a>.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">From late BN1s, as early as car=
s built in 1954, and onwards, cars finished in lighter colors, particularly=
 Healey Blue, Florida Green, Carmine Red and Ivory-White appear to have had=
 the lip around the bottom of the rear shroud brush-painted in black.&quot;=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I also answered Marc on=
 the question of the brace as well quoting from the Guidelines.</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div></div></div><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 2:32 AM <a =
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te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I read the following question r=
ecently on facebook, but no clear=C2=A0 answer was given. Does anybody know=
, especially to the cross panel in front of the radiator?<br>
<br>
Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted (semigloss) b=
lack on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same was with the cross panel fro=
nt face in front of the radiator? Are there other body panels which are not=
 just bolt on painted in black?<br>
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:56:52 -0500

From the Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:

Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):  "The X-brace in front of the radiator was brush painted black (except on black cars0 so that it wouldn't be visible through the grille opening."
Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):  "The lower lip of the rear shroud was brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on all but black cars, probably to make the lower shroud lip less noticeable."

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  

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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 07:33:49 -0800

My BJ8 has the original engine bay paint; and IIRC the cross bar is 
painted same as the rest (body color; in my case Colorado Red).  I'll 
check later.

I believe the lower lips are painted on 4- and 6-cylinder cars; at any 
rate, the cars look better with the paint (that lip looks unfinished 
without it).  I think semi-gloss is too shiny, I used satin black.

Bob

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From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 10:11:54 -0800

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Can someone post a photo of the lip?
My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black before I
reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, should it be black or body
color?
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

1967 MGB  

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):  "The X-brace in front of the
> radiator was brush painted black (except on black cars0 so that it wouldn=
't
> be visible through the grille opening."
> Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):  "The lower lip of the rear
> shroud was brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on al=
l
> but black cars, probably to make the lower shroud lip less noticeable."
>
> Steve Byers
> HBJ8L/36666
> BJ8 Registry
> AHCA Delegate at Large
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Can someone post a photo of the lip?<div>My brace is paint=
ed blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black before I reinstall my gril=
le... What about the air dam, should it be black or body color?<br clear=3D=
"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gma=
il_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ____=
___ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"=
font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#3=
9;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____=
/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=
<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialist=
s.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"></div><div><br></div><div><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helv=
etica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an animal with a tho=
usand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br></div><div>Please excuse random=
 auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at =
7:24 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
>From the Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:<br>
<br>
Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):=C2=A0 &quot;The X-brace in front o=
f the radiator was brush painted black (except on black cars0 so that it wo=
uldn&#39;t be visible through the grille opening.&quot;<br>
Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):=C2=A0 &quot;The lower lip of the r=
ear shroud was brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on =
all but black cars, probably to make the lower shroud lip less noticeable.&=
quot;<br>
<br>
Steve Byers<br>
HBJ8L/36666<br>
BJ8 Registry<br>
AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
Havelock, NC=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
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Subject: [Healeys] Black faces<br>
<br>
I read the following question recently on facebook, but no clear=C2=A0 answ=
er was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross panel in front of =
the radiator?<br>
<br>
Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted (semigloss) b=
lack on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same was with the cross panel fro=
nt face in front of the radiator? Are there other body panels which are not=
 just bolt on painted in black?<br>
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From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 19:39:44 +0100 (CET)

Thanks Steve and all other responded.
That´s all I need. I found it in the Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide.

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An: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  

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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 13:54:20 -0500

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Again from the Concours Guidelines. 2018 Edition Pg 91.

* Double front X-braces immediately behind the grille are painted body
color, except some white cars had this brace painted black 44. =E2=80=A2 Fr=
ont
inner apron panels fastened to vertical division panels using pan head
Phillips screws and large flat washers, which were also painted body color.
Very early cars have been found to have only the horizontal panel and not
the vertical one. In these cases where the vertical panel is missing, the
two holes located on the front-to-back center portion of the panel are
missing.  On OEW 100s where the engine compartment was painted black, these
inner apron panels were also black.*

*44 If you find your car fits the exception document it and restore, as you
believe it was.  Otherwise, paint the braces body color. *

Michael Salter
Technical Editor (Big Healeys)
The Austin-Healey Concours Registry

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> My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black before =
I
>> radiator was brush painted black (except on black cars0 so that it would=
n't
>> shroud was brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on a=
ll
>> was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross panel in front of =
the
>> radiator?
>>
>> Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted (semigloss=
)
>> front face in front of the radiator? Are there other body panels which a=
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ult" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Again f=
rom the Concours Guidelines. 2018 Edition Pg 91.<br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><i>=C2=A0Doub=
le front X-braces immediately behind the grille are painted body color, exc=
ept some white cars had this brace painted black 44. <br>=E2=80=A2 Front in=
ner apron panels fastened to vertical division panels using pan head Philli=
ps screws and large flat washers, which were also painted body color. Very =
early cars have been found to have only the horizontal panel and not the ve=
rtical one. In these cases where the vertical panel is missing, the two hol=
es located on the front-to-back center portion of the panel are missing.=C2=
=A0 On OEW 100s where the engine compartment was painted black, these inner=
 apron panels were also black.</i></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
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e=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><i>44 If you find your car fits the exception docu=
ment it and restore, as you believe it was.=C2=A0 Otherwise, paint the brac=
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/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 a=
t 1:43 PM i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">eyera3000@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Can someone post a photo of the lip?<div>My brace is p=
ainted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black before I reinstall my =
grille... What about the air dam, should it be black or body color?<br clea=
r=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail-m_1969407922393728115gmail_s=
ignature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ______=
_ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4___=
_/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,seri=
f"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><br></div=
><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecia=
lists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"></div><div><br></div><div=
><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,=
Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an animal with a=
 thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br></div><div>Please excuse ra=
ndom auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018=
 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex">From the Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:<br>
<br>
s/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://auto=
x.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]</a><br>
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Conveniently, my car is up on jacks for its annual.  As I recall, the =
restoration guides all say the cross brace is painted black.

=20

Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of i =
erbs
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 10:12 AM
To: BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]>
Cc: Ahealey help <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Black faces

=20

My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black before =
I reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, should it be black or =
body color?

Ira Erbs

Portland,OR

      _______                                  _______

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1967 MGB    =
<http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg>=20

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On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys <[email-masked] =

>From the Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:

Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):  "The X-brace in front of the =
radiator was brush painted black (except on black cars0 so that it =
wouldn't be visible through the grille opening."
Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):  "The lower lip of the rear =
shroud was brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on =
all but black cars, probably to make the lower shroud lip less =
noticeable."

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC =20

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked] =
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:26 AM
Subject: [Healeys] Black faces

I read the following question recently on facebook, but no clear  answer =
was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross panel in front of =
the radiator?

Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted =
(semigloss) black on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same was with the =
cross panel front face in front of the radiator? Are there other body =
panels which are not just bolt on painted in black?

=EF=BB=BF

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Conveniently, my car is =
up on jacks for its annual.=C2=A0 As I recall, the restoration guides =
all say the cross brace is painted black.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce =
Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, =
CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 =
BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>i =
erbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 18, 2018 10:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
BJ8Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Black =
faces<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Can =
someone post a photo of the lip?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to =
paint it black before I reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, =
should it be black or body color?<br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ira =
Erbs<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Portland,OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _______ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;_______<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (______ =
\____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; =
(_________________________)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BT7 engine and disk =
brakes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1967 MGB &nbsp;<img id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" =
alt=3DMG><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#333333'>A racing car is an animal with a thousand =
adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled =
words<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From the Anderson/Moment Restoration =
Guide:<br><br>Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):&nbsp; &quot;The =
black cars0 so that it wouldn't be visible through the grille =
opening.&quot;<br>Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):&nbsp; =
&quot;The lower lip of the rear shroud was brush-painted satin black =
over the body color, generally on all but black cars, probably to make =
the lower shroud lip less noticeable.&quot;<br><br>Steve =
Byers<br>HBJ8L/36666<br>BJ8 Registry<br>AHCA Delegate at =
Large<br>Havelock, NC&nbsp; <br><br><br><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Healeys [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: Tuesday, =
December 18, 2018 2:26 AM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>Subject: [Healeys] Black =
faces<br><br>I read the following question recently on facebook, but no =
clear&nbsp; answer was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross =
panel in front of the radiator?<br><br>Is it right that the lower lip on =
the rear shroud was painted (semigloss) black on 6 cylinder =
Austin-Healeys and the same was with the cross panel front face in front =
of the radiator? Are there other body panels which are not just bolt on =
painted in black?<br><br><span =
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Glad someone is paying attention ... obviously I'm not..=F0=9F=98=9E

M

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 3:31 PM Jean Caron <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Ira,
>
> It looks like you and Michael are talking about two different models here=
.
> Michael is giving you the references about the Austin-Healey 100 and you
> own a BN4 which does not have the same front pieces.
>
> Having said that, your car has only one  front =E2=80=9CX=E2=80=9D brace =
and yes it is
> painted black. As far as the =E2=80=9Cair intake Deflector is concerned, =
it is also
> painted black  as well as the brace at the bottom of it.
>
> The rear shroud bottom edge is also painted semi gloss black, on some car=
s
> BJ8 it has been seen is glossy black. I do not have photos of this area b=
ut
> that is the area where your rear shroud meets the rear floor, held by fla=
t
> head rivets.
>
>
>
> Jean
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Michael
> Salter <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:54:20 PM
> *To:* i erbs
> *Cc:* Ahealey help
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Black faces
>
> color, except some white cars had this brace painted black 44. =E2=80=A2 =
Front
> Phillips screws and large flat washers, which were also painted body colo=
r.
> missing.  On OEW 100s where the engine compartment was painted black, the=
se
> *44 If you find your car fits the exception document it and restore, as
> you believe it was.  Otherwise, paint the braces body color. *
>
> Michael Salter
>> My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black before
>> I reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, should it be black or b=
ody
>>> radiator was brush painted black (except on black cars0 so that it woul=
dn't
>>> shroud was brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on =
all
>>> I read the following question recently on facebook, but no clear  answe=
r
>>> was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross panel in front of=
 the
>>> radiator?
>>>
>>> Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted
>>> (semigloss) black on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same was with th=
e
>>> cross panel front face in front of the radiator? Are there other body
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ously I&#39;m not..=F0=9F=98=9E</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
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small">M<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On =
Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 3:31 PM Jean Caron &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roads=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It looks like you and Michael are talking about two =
different models here. Michael is giving you the references about the Austi=
n-Healey 100 and you own a BN4 which does not have the same front pieces.</=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Having said that, your car has only one=C2=A0 front =
=E2=80=9CX=E2=80=9D brace and yes it is painted black. As far as the =E2=80=
=9Cair intake Deflector is concerned, it is also painted black=C2=A0 as wel=
l as the brace at the bottom of it.
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The rear shroud bottom edge is also painted semi glo=
ss black, on some cars BJ8 it has been seen is glossy black. I do not have =
photos of this area but that is the area where your rear shroud meets the r=
ear floor, held by flat head rivets.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jean</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Michael Sal=
ter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">micha=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:54:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> i erbs<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Black faces</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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Again from the Concours Guidelines. 2018 Edition Pg 91.<br>
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font-size:small">
<br>
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><i>=C2=A0Double front X-braces immediate=
ly behind the grille are painted body color, except some white cars had thi=
s brace painted black 44.
<br>
=E2=80=A2 Front inner apron panels fastened to vertical division panels usi=
ng pan head Phillips screws and large flat washers, which were also painted=
 body color. Very early cars have been found to have only the horizontal pa=
nel and not the vertical one. In these cases
 where the vertical panel is missing, the two holes located on the front-to=
-back center portion of the panel are missing.=C2=A0 On OEW 100s where the =
engine compartment was painted black, these inner apron panels were also bl=
ack.</i></span></div>
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><i>44 If you find your car fits the exce=
ption document it and restore, as you believe it was.=C2=A0 Otherwise, pain=
t the braces body color.
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><font color=3D"#000000">Technical Editor=
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><font color=3D"#000000">The Austin-Heale=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:43 PM i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Can someone post a photo of the lip?
<div>My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black befo=
re I reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, should it be black or b=
ody color?<br clear=3D"all">
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28115gmail_signature">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs
<div>Portland,OR</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</=
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<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div>
<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div>
<div><br>
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<div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img alt=3D"MG" src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists=
.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg"></div>
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<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&qu=
ot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an animal wi=
th a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br>
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<div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
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<br>
Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):=C2=A0 &quot;The X-brace in front o=
f the radiator was brush painted black (except on black cars0 so that it wo=
uldn&#39;t be visible through the grille opening.&quot;<br>
Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):=C2=A0 &quot;The lower lip of the r=
ear shroud was brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on =
all but black cars, probably to make the lower shroud lip less noticeable.&=
quot;<br>
<br>
Steve Byers<br>
HBJ8L/36666<br>
BJ8 Registry<br>
AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
Havelock, NC=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">josef-eckert@=
t-online.de</a><br>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:26 AM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: [Healeys] Black faces<br>
<br>
I read the following question recently on facebook, but no clear=C2=A0 answ=
er was given. Does anybody know, especially to the cross panel in front of =
the radiator?<br>
<br>
Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was painted (semigloss) b=
lack on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same was with the cross panel fro=
nt face in front of the radiator? Are there other body panels which are not=
 just bolt on painted in black?<br>
<br>
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Thanks Jean.
Your comments about front area jive with what I thought. The bottom lip in
the rear is new info. So back to painting the x member and deflectors
before reinstalling my grille.
Cheers
Happy holidays.

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks Jean.<div dir=3D"auto">Your comments about front a=
rea jive with what I thought. The bottom lip in the rear is new info. So ba=
ck to painting the x member and deflectors before reinstalling my grille.</=
div><div dir=3D"auto">Cheers</div><div dir=3D"auto">Happy holidays.<br><br>=
<div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, =
OR<br>typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone</div></div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 12:31 PM Je=
an Caron &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">vi=
[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
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lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf o=
f Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
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Ah ... I was thinking of the horizontal brace (not the 'X').

On 12/18/2018 10:54 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> / Double front X-braces immediately behind the grille are painted body 
> color, except some white cars had this brace painted black 44.
> • Front inner apron panels fastened to vertical division panels using 
> pan head Phillips screws and large flat washers, which were also 
> painted body color. Very early cars have been found to have only the 
> horizontal panel and not the vertical one. In these cases where the 
> vertical panel is missing, the two holes located on the front-to-back 
> center portion of the panel are missing.  On OEW 100s where the engine 
> compartment was painted black, these inner apron panels were also black./
> /
> /
> /44 If you find your car fits the exception document it and restore, 
> as you believe it was.  Otherwise, paint the braces body color.
> /
> /
> /
> Michael Salter
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:43 PM i erbs <[email-masked] 
>
>     My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it black
>     before I reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, should it
>     be black or body color?
>     Ira Erbs
>     Portland,OR
>         _______  _______
>     1967 MGB MG
>     On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]
>
>         Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):  "The X-brace in
>         front of the radiator was brush painted black (except on black
>         cars0 so that it wouldn't be visible through the grille opening."
>         Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):  "The lower lip of
>         the rear shroud was brush-painted satin black over the body
>         color, generally on all but black cars, probably to make the
>         lower shroud lip less noticeable."
>
>         Steve Byers
>         HBJ8L/36666
>         BJ8 Registry
>         AHCA Delegate at Large
>         Havelock, NC
>
>
>
>         From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]
>         I read the following question recently on facebook, but no
>         clear  answer was given. Does anybody know, especially to the
>         cross panel in front of the radiator?
>
>         (semigloss) black on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and the same
>         was with the cross panel front face in front of the radiator?
>         Are there other body panels which are not just bolt on painted
>         in black?
>
>         
>
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    <p>Ah ... I was thinking of the horizontal brace (not the 'X').<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/18/2018 10:54 AM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
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                style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"><i> Double front X-braces
                  immediately behind the grille are painted body color,
                  except some white cars had this brace painted black
                  44. <br>
                  • Front inner apron panels fastened to vertical
                  division panels using pan head Phillips screws and
                  large flat washers, which were also painted body
                  color. Very early cars have been found to have only
                  the horizontal panel and not the vertical one. In
                  these cases where the vertical panel is missing, the
                  two holes located on the front-to-back center portion
                  of the panel are missing.  On OEW 100s where the
                  engine compartment was painted black, these inner
                  apron panels were also black.</i></span></div>
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                style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"><i>44 If you find your car
                  fits the exception document it and restore, as you
                  believe it was.  Otherwise, paint the braces body
                  color. <br>
                </i></span></div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Can someone post a photo of the lip?
            <div>My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to
              paint it black before I reinstall my grille... What about
              the air dam, should it be black or body color?<br
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                                              <div>Portland,OR</div>
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                                                  BN4____/ _______)</span><br
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                                                  (_________________________)</span></div>
                                              <div>          BT7 engine
                                                and disk brakes</div>
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                                                  adjustments. Mario
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                                                misspelled words</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys
              &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">From the
              Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:<br>
              <br>
              Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):  "The X-brace in
              front of the radiator was brush painted black (except on
              black cars0 so that it wouldn't be visible through the
              grille opening."<br>
              Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):  "The lower lip
              of the rear shroud was brush-painted satin black over the
              body color, generally on all but black cars, probably to
              make the lower shroud lip less noticeable."<br>
              <br>
              Steve Byers<br>
              HBJ8L/36666<br>
              BJ8 Registry<br>
              AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
              Havelock, NC  <br>
              <br>
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              Subject: [Healeys] Black faces<br>
              <br>
              I read the following question recently on facebook, but no
              clear  answer was given. Does anybody know, especially to
              the cross panel in front of the radiator?<br>
              <br>
              Is it right that the lower lip on the rear shroud was
              painted (semigloss) black on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and
              the same was with the cross panel front face in front of
              the radiator? Are there other body panels which are not
              just bolt on painted in black?<br>
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I should have been more specific.  I was referencing the single X-brace =
on BN4/BN6 models onward.

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Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bruce =
Steele
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:35 AM
To: 'i erbs' <[email-masked]>; 'BJ8Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Ahealey help' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Black faces

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Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

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Ira Erbs

Portland,OR

      _______                                  _______

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1967 MGB    =

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Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC =20

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked] =
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:26 AM
Subject: [Healeys] Black faces

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>I should have been more =
specific.=C2=A0 I was referencing the single X-brace on BN4/BN6 models =
onward.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bruce Steele<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:35 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'i erbs' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'BJ8Healeys' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Ahealey help' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Black =
faces<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Conveniently, my car is =
up on jacks for its annual.&nbsp; As I recall, the restoration guides =
all say the cross brace is painted black.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce =
Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, =
CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 =
BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>i erbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
December 18, 2018 10:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Ahealey help &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Black faces<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Can =
someone post a photo of the lip?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to =
paint it black before I reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, =
should it be black or body color?<br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ira =
Erbs<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Portland,OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _______ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;_______<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (______ =
\____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; =
(_________________________)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BT7 engine and disk =
brakes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1967 MGB &nbsp;<img border=3D0 id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" =
alt=3DMG><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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Neue";color:#333333'>A racing car is an animal with a thousand =
adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled =
words<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From the =
Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:<br><br>Page 75 (third column, first =
paragraph):&nbsp; &quot;The X-brace in front of the radiator was brush =
painted black (except on black cars0 so that it wouldn't be visible =
through the grille opening.&quot;<br>Page 90 (third column, third =
paragraph):&nbsp; &quot;The lower lip of the rear shroud was =
brush-painted satin black over the body color, generally on all but =
black cars, probably to make the lower shroud lip less =
noticeable.&quot;<br><br>Steve Byers<br>HBJ8L/36666<br>BJ8 =
Registry<br>AHCA Delegate at Large<br>Havelock, NC&nbsp; =
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panel in front of the radiator?<br><br>Is it right that the lower lip on =
the rear shroud was painted (semigloss) black on 6 cylinder =
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> 1967 MGB =20
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Conveniently, my car is up on jacks for its annual.&nbsp; As =
I recall, the restoration guides all say the cross brace is painted =
black.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;" =
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serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Bruce Steele<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys [<a =
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text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]<span =
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Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>i erbs<br =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, December 18, 2018 =
10:12 AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Black =
faces<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Can someone post a photo of the lip?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">My brace is painted blue, but everyone tells me to paint it =
black before I reinstall my grille... What about the air dam, should it =
be black or body color?<br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Ira =
Erbs<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">Portland,OR<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
_______ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;_______<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; =
(_________________________)<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; BT7 engine and disk brakes<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">1967 MGB &nbsp;<img id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" =
alt=3D"MG" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">A racing car is an =
animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">On =
Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:24 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style:=
 none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; =
margin-right: 0in;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif;">=46rom the Anderson/Moment Restoration Guide:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Page 75 (third column, first paragraph):&nbsp; =
"The X-brace in front of the radiator was brush painted black (except on =
black cars0 so that it wouldn't be visible through the grille =
opening."<br class=3D"">Page 90 (third column, third paragraph):&nbsp; =
"The lower lip of the rear shroud was brush-painted satin black over the =
body color, generally on all but black cars, probably to make the lower =
shroud lip less noticeable."<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Steve Byers<br =
class=3D"">HBJ8L/36666<br class=3D"">BJ8 Registry<br class=3D"">AHCA =
Delegate at Large<br class=3D"">Havelock, NC&nbsp;<span =
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class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br =
class=3D"">From: Healeys [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of<span =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:=
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">Sent: Tuesday, =
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">Subject: [Healeys] =
Black faces<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I read the following question =
recently on facebook, but no clear&nbsp; answer was given. Does anybody =
know, especially to the cross panel in front of the radiator?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Is it right that the lower lip on the rear =
shroud was painted (semigloss) black on 6 cylinder Austin-Healeys and =
the same was with the cross panel front face in front of the radiator? =
Are there other body panels which are not just bolt on painted in =
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