Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sump removal

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 12:46:47 -0800

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I had to do this recently.  If it's stuck on with an adhesive 
sealant--Right Stuff, etc.--you are screwed.  I ended up sawing through 
the hardened sealant with a large, serrated knife (the kind you carve a 
turkey with).  I hurt my elbow, perhaps permanently, but had no choice 
as the pan was cracked and part of the blade broke off in the pan.  I 
used a gasket and a sealant when I reinstalled the pan; theoretically if 
I need to remove it again I can saw through the gasket.  I might buy an 
electric carving knife just to do this, but I'm not sure you could get 
the blade started.

3M Adhesive Remover softened the lingering sealant (you know it's 
good--the 3M stuff--because it's banned in California).  Then, it's lots 
of scraping.

Bob

ps.  When I was looking for a 'magic answer' I found videos and photos 
of people lifting small block Chevy engines by the carburettor 
studs--with the bolts removed--on the manifold, which had been affixed 
with Right Stuff sealant.

On 12/6/2018 8:39 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
>
> I’m trying to get the sump (oil pan?) off my MkII 3000.
>
> I’ve given up for now but will check again that I’ve taken off all the 
> bolts.
>
> It absolutely won’t shift and I’m finding it very hard to get an 
> implement in with which to prise it open.
>
> I guess that it’s sealed with and cemented to the block with some 
> gloop that just won’t shift.
>
> Is there a clever way to do this?
>
> What’s the magic answer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>

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    <p>I had to do this recently.  If it's stuck on with an adhesive
      sealant--Right Stuff, etc.--you are screwed.  I ended up sawing
      through the hardened sealant with a large, serrated knife (the
      kind you carve a turkey with).  I hurt my elbow, perhaps
      permanently, but had no choice as the pan was cracked and part of
      the blade broke off in the pan.  I used a gasket and a sealant
      when I reinstalled the pan; theoretically if I need to remove it
      again I can saw through the gasket.  I might buy an electric
      carving knife just to do this, but I'm not sure you could get the
      blade started.</p>
    <p>3M Adhesive Remover softened the lingering sealant (you know it's
      good--the 3M stuff--because it's banned in California).  Then,
      it's lots of scraping.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Bob</p>
    <p>ps.  When I was looking for a 'magic answer' I found videos and
      photos of people lifting small block Chevy engines by the
      carburettor studs--with the bolts removed--on the manifold, which
      had been affixed with Right Stuff sealant.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/6/2018 8:39 AM,
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        <p class="MsoNormal">I’m trying to get the sump (oil pan?) off
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        <p class="MsoNormal">I’ve given up for now but will check again
          that I’ve taken off all the bolts.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">It absolutely won’t shift and I’m finding
          it very hard to get an implement in with which to prise it
          open.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I guess that it’s sealed with and cemented
          to the block with some gloop that just won’t shift.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Is there a clever way to do this?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">What’s the magic answer?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p>
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:29:54 -0800

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all the bolts need to be off. use some map gas and carefully heat a corner.
then try and thin/wide chisel or putty knife
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
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1967 MGB  

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Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

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> I=E2=80=99m trying to get the sump (oil pan?) off my MkII 3000.
>
> I=E2=80=99ve given up for now but will check again that I=E2=80=99ve take=
n off all the
> bolts.
>
> It absolutely won=E2=80=99t shift and I=E2=80=99m finding it very hard to=
 get an implement
> in with which to prise it open.
>
> I guess that it=E2=80=99s sealed with and cemented to the block with some=
 gloop
> that just won=E2=80=99t shift.
>
> What=E2=80=99s the magic answer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 17:36:05 -0500

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In cases like that, I spray the joint liberally with penetrating oil and tap
on it periodically with a hammer to set up vibrations and allow the
penetrant to penetrate quicker (pad it with wood, or use a rubber mallet).
That usually pops it loose after a bit, but if it doesn't repeat the process
and be patient.

I just replaced the oil pump in my BJ8 a few months ago and I seem to recall
that there is a cutout in the block flange that would allow breaking the
sump loose from above, but I didn't need or use that and I'm not sure I'm
remembering correctly.

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of
[email-masked]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 11:39 AM
To: Healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Sump removal

I'm trying to get the sump (oil pan?) off my MkII 3000.

I've given up for now but will check again that I've taken off all the
bolts.

It absolutely won't shift and I'm finding it very hard to get an implement
in with which to prise it open.

I guess that it's sealed with and cemented to the block with some gloop that
just won't shift.

What's the magic answer?

Thanks,

Simon

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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>In cases like that, I spray the joint liberally with =
penetrating oil and tap on it periodically with a hammer to set up =
vibrations and allow the penetrant to penetrate quicker (pad it with =
wood, or use a rubber mallet).&nbsp; That usually pops it loose after a =
bit, but if it doesn't repeat the process and be =
patient.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>I just replaced the =
oil pump in my BJ8 a few months ago and I seem to recall that there is a =
cutout in the block flange that would allow breaking the sump loose from =
above, but I didn't need or use that and I'm not sure I'm remembering =
correctly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; =
</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December =
06, 2018 11:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
Sump removal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I&#8217;m trying to get the sump (oil pan?) off my MkII =
3000.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I&#8217;ve given up for now but will check again that =
I&#8217;ve taken off all the bolts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>It absolutely won&#8217;t shift and =
I&#8217;m finding it very hard to get an implement in with which to =
prise it open.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I guess that it&#8217;s sealed with and cemented to the =
block with some gloop that just won&#8217;t =
shift.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Is =
there a clever way to do this?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>What&#8217;s the magic =
answer?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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