Subject: Re: [Healeys] Simple camber adjustment fix?

From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 09:56:30 +0200

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I'm sure that would work to some extent Bob but as you would effectively be
raising the pivot point of the upper arm rather than moving it inward the
actual change would be rather slight and would change the geometry and
probably result in an undesirable camber change throughout the suspension
travel.
I would be more inclined to thoroughly investigate the real problem and try
to correct that.
One important "datum" point is that the shock mounting surfaces should be
level with each other and a specific distance apart which, with the shocks
removed, is easily checked with a level and straight edge.
My bet is that you will find that one or both of yours slope outward, often
caused by drifting into a kerb(s).
We used to have a 6' length of 2" pipe welded to a plate which could be
bolted to the shock mount (it also had a hook which engaged under the
flange of the X member) and we used this primative device to bend the the X
member to the correct position.
If the shock plates were too close together we could use a jack to move the
offending plate outward but of course the engine had to be removed for that.
It was amazing effective.

M

On Mon, May 13, 2019, 6:54 AM Bob Spidell, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> My BJ8 has had what I feel is excessive pos. camber--2-3deg--since new
> (AFAIK), even with offset trunnion bushings 'maxed out.'  Now that I can
> TIG weld with a bit of competence, I've considered adjustable shock
> plates but, while browsing the shelves at Harbor Freight the other day I
> noticed a box of alignment shims.  These are roughly U-shaped and come
> in assorted thicknesses (yeah, I know, they've been around forever).
> Anyway, I got to thinking if I put shims under the outer ears on the
> front shocks that would tilt the shocks back and remove some or all of
> the pos. camber.  My concern is, would this put undue stress on the
> ears--where the bolts go--on the shocks, possibly causing them to break
> and mayhem to ensue?  Anybody done this?
>
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=asc&order=EAScore%2Cf%2CEAFeatured+Weight%2Cf%2CSale+Rank%2Cf&q=alignment+shims
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m sure that would work to some extent Bob but as yo=
u would effectively be raising the pivot point of the upper arm rather than=
 moving it inward the actual change would be rather slight and would change=
 the geometry and probably result in an undesirable camber change throughou=
t the suspension travel.<div dir=3D"auto">I would be more inclined to thoro=
ughly investigate the real problem and try to correct that.=C2=A0</div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">One important &quot;datum&quot; point is that the shock mount=
ing surfaces should be level with each other and a specific distance apart =
which,=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">with the shocks removed,=
</span>=C2=A0is easily checked with a level and straight edge.</div><div di=
r=3D"auto">My bet is that you will find that one or both of yours slope out=
ward, often caused by drifting into a kerb(s).</div><div dir=3D"auto">We us=
ed to have a 6&#39; length of 2&quot; pipe welded to a plate which could be=
 bolted to the shock mount (it also had a hook which engaged under the flan=
ge of the X member) and we used this primative device to bend the the X mem=
ber to the correct position.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">If the shoc=
k plates were too close together we could use a jack to move the offending =
plate outward but of course the engine had to be removed for that.</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">It was amazing effective.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 13, 2019, 6:54 AM Bob Spidell, &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My BJ8 has had what I feel is excessiv=
e pos. camber--2-3deg--since new <br>
(AFAIK), even with offset trunnion bushings &#39;maxed out.&#39;=C2=A0 Now =
that I can <br>
TIG weld with a bit of competence, I&#39;ve considered adjustable shock <br=
plates but, while browsing the shelves at Harbor Freight the other day I <b=
r>
noticed a box of alignment shims.=C2=A0 These are roughly U-shaped and come=
 <br>
in assorted thicknesses (yeah, I know, they&#39;ve been around forever). <b=
r>
Anyway, I got to thinking if I put shims under the outer ears on the <br>
front shocks that would tilt the shocks back and remove some or all of <br>
the pos. camber.=C2=A0 My concern is, would this put undue stress on the <b=
r>
ears--where the bolts go--on the shocks, possibly causing them to break <br=
and mayhem to ensue?=C2=A0 Anybody done this?<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=3D=
asc&amp;order=3DEAScore%2Cf%2CEAFeatured+Weight%2Cf%2CSale+Rank%2Cf&amp;q=
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 09:40:51 -0400

While running a rallye in my BJ8 in 2002, I had the misfortune of hitting an unexpected pothole which caused the left front shock to tear away from its mount on three sides.  The mount had already been weakened by too many years (pre-Allen Hendrix) of driving with out-of-balance tires that cracked the mount in multiple places under the shock.  Those cracks had been repaired by welding up the cracks.

The damage from the pothole was repaired -- not a really pretty repair, since the shock now has those U-shaped shims under the outboard bolt holes.  However, the alignment is spot-on (judging from the handling and no excessive wear on the tires), and nothing has happened to the shock ears in almost 70,000 miles since then.

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 12:54 AM
To: Healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Simple camber adjustment fix?

Bob

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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 10:20:30 -0400

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Steve--

As I recall I was your navigator on that run.  Maybe I should have had my
eyes on the road rather than the written materials....

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 9:40 AM BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:

> While running a rallye in my BJ8 in 2002, I had the misfortune of hitting
> an unexpected pothole which caused the left front shock to tear away from
> its mount on three sides.  The mount had already been weakened by too many
> years (pre-Allen Hendrix) of driving with out-of-balance tires that cracked
> the mount in multiple places under the shock.  Those cracks had been
> repaired by welding up the cracks.
>
> The damage from the pothole was repaired -- not a really pretty repair,
> since the shock now has those U-shaped shims under the outboard bolt
> holes.  However, the alignment is spot-on (judging from the handling and no
> excessive wear on the tires), and nothing has happened to the shock ears in
> almost 70,000 miles since then.
>
> Steve Byers
> HBJ8L/36666
> BJ8 Registry
> AHCA Delegate at Large
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Steve=
--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">As I recall I was your nav=
igator on that run.=C2=A0 Maybe I should have had my eyes on the road rathe=
r than the written materials....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333=
ff">Best--Michael Oritt=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 9:40 AM BJ8Heale=
ys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">While running a =
rallye in my BJ8 in 2002, I had the misfortune of hitting an unexpected pot=
hole which caused the left front shock to tear away from its mount on three=
 sides.=C2=A0 The mount had already been weakened by too many years (pre-Al=
len Hendrix) of driving with out-of-balance tires that cracked the mount in=
 multiple places under the shock.=C2=A0 Those cracks had been repaired by w=
elding up the cracks.<br>
<br>
The damage from the pothole was repaired -- not a really pretty repair, sin=
ce the shock now has those U-shaped shims under the outboard bolt holes.=C2=
=A0 However, the alignment is spot-on (judging from the handling and no exc=
essive wear on the tires), and nothing has happened to the shock ears in al=
most 70,000 miles since then.<br>
<br>
Steve Byers<br>
HBJ8L/36666<br>
BJ8 Registry<br>
AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
Havelock, NC=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell=
<br>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 12:54 AM<br>
To: Healeys<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Simple camber adjustment fix?<br>
<br>
My BJ8 has had what I feel is excessive pos. camber--2-3deg--since new <br>
(AFAIK), even with offset trunnion bushings &#39;maxed out.&#39;=C2=A0 Now =
that I can <br>
TIG weld with a bit of competence, I&#39;ve considered adjustable shock <br=
and mayhem to ensue?=C2=A0 Anybody done this?<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=3D=
asc&amp;order=3DEAScore%2Cf%2CEAFeatured+Weight%2Cf%2CSale+Rank%2Cf&amp;q=
=3Dalignment+shims" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.harbor=
freight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=3Dasc&amp;order=3DEAScore%2Cf%2=
CEAFeatured+Weight%2Cf%2CSale+Rank%2Cf&amp;q=3Dalignment+shims</a><br>
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 14:11:38 -0400

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To refresh your memory, Michael, here's the rest of the story:

=20

We both missed a rally clue and realized at the same moment that we had. =
 I made a quick turn to a short turn-off to go back and see what we =
missed, and that huge pothole was there before either of us could see it =
and stop.  After our teeth quit vibrating, we continued on the rally and =
soon came upon a couple of ladies parked in the middle of the road with =
the bonnet up.  After we stopped to see what we could do for them, we =
decided we might as well quit the rally at that point and returned to =
the hotel. =20

It was only during the slow parade through Gatlinburg that night that I =
felt something knock against the steering column whenever I went over a =
manhole.  Next morning, I discovered the shock absorber was only =
attached at the inboard side and rocking back to hit the column with =
movement of the suspension.  Amazing that it didn't break off.  The =
shock attach bolts were lock wired to each other, so the shock pulled =
the whole top of the plate off on three sides.

=20

Busted flat in Gatlinburg....how to get it fixed on a Sunday morning was =
the puzzle.  The great Healey minds got together in the parking garage =
and Bill Walton volunteered to trailer my car back to Charlotte for =
repair if I would drive his BT7.  It poured rain all the way, and Bill =
didn't have the side curtains installed.... =20

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

TARHEELY license plate

=20

From: Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 10:21 AM
To: BJ8Healeys
Cc: Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Simple camber adjustment fix?

=20

Steve--

=20

As I recall I was your navigator on that run.  Maybe I should have had =
my eyes on the road rather than the written materials....

=20

Best--Michael Oritt=20

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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>We both missed a rally clue and realized at the =
same moment that we had.=C2=A0 I made a quick turn to a short turn-off =
to go back and see what we missed, and that huge pothole was there =
before either of us could see it and stop.=C2=A0 After our teeth quit =
vibrating, we continued on the rally and soon came upon a couple of =
ladies parked in the middle of the road with the bonnet up.=C2=A0 After =
we stopped to see what we could do for them, we decided we might as well =
quit the rally at that point and returned to the hotel.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>It =
was only during the slow parade through Gatlinburg that night that I =
felt something knock against the steering column whenever I went over a =
manhole. =C2=A0Next morning, I discovered the shock absorber was only =
attached at the inboard side and rocking back to hit the column with =
movement of the suspension.=C2=A0 Amazing that it didn't break =
off.=C2=A0 The shock attach bolts were lock wired to each other, so the =
shock pulled the whole top of the plate off on three =
sides.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Busted flat in Gatlinburg....how to get it fixed =
on a Sunday morning was the puzzle.=C2=A0 The great Healey minds got =
together in the parking garage and Bill Walton volunteered to trailer my =
car back to Charlotte for repair if I would drive his BT7.=C2=A0 It =
poured rain all the way, and Bill didn't have the side curtains =
installed.... =C2=A0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
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MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><img width=3D94 height=3D47 id=3D"Picture_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"TARHEELY license =
plate"></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, =
May 13, 2019 10:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Simple camber adjustment =
fix?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Steve--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>As I recall I was your =
navigator on that run.&nbsp; Maybe I should have had my eyes on the road =
rather than the written materials....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 16:16:41 -0400

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Steve--

Thank you for the memory refresher and I do now remember at least some of
the details, esp. feeling bad for your situation but relieved when a
solution finally appeared.  That was good of Bill and as I recall he had a
pretty nice car.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 2:11 PM BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:

> We both missed a rally clue and realized at the same moment that we had.
> I made a quick turn to a short turn-off to go back and see what we missed,
> and that huge pothole was there before either of us could see it and stop.
> After our teeth quit vibrating, we continued on the rally and soon came
> upon a couple of ladies parked in the middle of the road with the bonnet
> up.  After we stopped to see what we could do for them, we decided we might
> as well quit the rally at that point and returned to the hotel.
>
> It was only during the slow parade through Gatlinburg that night that I
> felt something knock against the steering column whenever I went over a
> manhole.  Next morning, I discovered the shock absorber was only attached
> at the inboard side and rocking back to hit the column with movement of the
> suspension.  Amazing that it didn't break off.  The shock attach bolts were
> lock wired to each other, so the shock pulled the whole top of the plate
> off on three sides.
>
>
>
> Busted flat in Gatlinburg....how to get it fixed on a Sunday morning was
> the puzzle.  The great Healey minds got together in the parking garage and
> Bill Walton volunteered to trailer my car back to Charlotte for repair if I
> would drive his BT7.  It poured rain all the way, and Bill didn't have the
> side curtains installed....
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 10:21 AM
> *To:* BJ8Healeys
> *Cc:* Healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Simple camber adjustment fix?
>
>
>
> Steve--
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Steve=
--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Thank you for the memory r=
efresher and I do now remember at least some of the details, esp. feeling b=
ad for your situation but relieved when a solution finally appeared.=C2=A0 =
That was good of Bill and as I recall he had a pretty nice car.</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 13,=
 2019 at 2:11 PM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">sbyers@=
ec.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_131279157036567460Word=
Section1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:=
&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">To refresh your memory, Micha=
el, here&#39;s the rest of the story:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quo=
t;;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:rgb(0,32,96)">We both missed a rally clue and realized at the same moment =
that we had.=C2=A0 I made a quick turn to a short turn-off to go back and s=
ee what we missed, and that huge pothole was there before either of us coul=
d see it and stop.=C2=A0 After our teeth quit vibrating, we continued on th=
e rally and soon came upon a couple of ladies parked in the middle of the r=
oad with the bonnet up.=C2=A0 After we stopped to see what we could do for =
them, we decided we might as well quit the rally at that point and returned=
 to the hotel.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,3=
2,96)">It was only during the slow parade through Gatlinburg that night tha=
t I felt something knock against the steering column whenever I went over a=
 manhole.=C2=A0 Next morning, I discovered the shock absorber was only atta=
ched at the inboard side and rocking back to hit the column with movement o=
f the suspension.=C2=A0 Amazing that it didn&#39;t break off.=C2=A0 The sho=
ck attach bolts were lock wired to each other, so the shock pulled the whol=
e top of the plate off on three sides.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&qu=
ot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;colo=
r:rgb(0,32,96)">Busted flat in Gatlinburg....how to get it fixed on a Sunda=
y morning was the puzzle.=C2=A0 The great Healey minds got together in the =
parking garage and Bill Walton volunteered to trailer my car back to Charlo=
tte for repair if I would drive his BT7.=C2=A0 It poured rain all the way, =
and Bill didn&#39;t have the side curtains installed.... =C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot=
;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11=
pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">BJ8 Registry</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(0,32,96)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)">AHC=
A Delegate at Large</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;co=
lor:rgb(0,32,96)">Havelock, NC=C2=A0 </span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;f=
ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comi=
c Sans MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><img width=3D"94" height=3D"47" id=3D"g=
mail-m_131279157036567460Picture_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:16ab2d305254ce8e91" al=
t=3D"TARHEELY license plate"></span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fami=
ly:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans M=
S&quot;;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"bo=
rder-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rg=
b(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Michael Oritt [mailto:=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@=
gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 13, 2019 10:21 AM<br><b>To:</b>=
 BJ8Healeys<br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Simple c=
amber adjustment fix?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"col=
or:rgb(51,51,255)">Steve--<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">A=
s I recall I was your navigator on that run.=C2=A0 Maybe I should have had =
my eyes on the road rather than the written materials....<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255=
)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span=
></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div=

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Yes, Bill Walton's BT7 is a very nice car (see attached).  It also has =
the exhaust in front of the rear wheel, so besides getting soaking wet =
from no side curtains (would they have made much difference?), I was =
pretty well deaf in my left ear by the time we got to Charlotte.   But =
it was a thrill to drive anyway, and I certainly appreciated his =
kindness in bailing us out of a tight situation!

My wife was warm and dry and not deaf in Bill's motor home in front of =
me.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

TARHEELY license plate

=20

From: Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 4:17 PM
To: BJ8Healeys
Cc: Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Simple camber adjustment fix?

=20

Steve--

=20

Thank you for the memory refresher and I do now remember at least some =
of the details, esp. feeling bad for your situation but relieved when a =
solution finally appeared.  That was good of Bill and as I recall he had =
a pretty nice car.

=20

Best--Michael Oritt

=20

=20

=20

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

TARHEELY license plate

=20

=20

Steve--

=20

=20

Best--Michael Oritt=20

=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys =
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Yes, Bill Walton's BT7 is a very nice car (see =
attached). =C2=A0It also has the exhaust in front of the rear wheel, so =
besides getting soaking wet from no side curtains (would they have made =
much difference?), I was pretty well deaf in my left ear by the time we =
got to Charlotte.=C2=A0=C2=A0 But it was a thrill to drive anyway, and I =
certainly appreciated his kindness in bailing us out of a tight =
situation!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>My =
wife was warm and dry and not deaf in Bill's motor home in front of =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><img width=3D94 height=3D47 id=3D"Picture_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"TARHEELY license =
plate"></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, =
May 13, 2019 4:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Simple camber adjustment =
fix?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Steve--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Thank you for the memory =
refresher and I do now remember at least some of the details, esp. =
feeling bad for your situation but relieved when a solution finally =
appeared.&nbsp; That was good of Bill and as I recall he had a pretty =
nice car.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, May 13, 2019 at 2:11 PM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>To =
refresh your memory, Michael, here's the rest of the =
story:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>We =
both missed a rally clue and realized at the same moment that we =
had.&nbsp; I made a quick turn to a short turn-off to go back and see =
what we missed, and that huge pothole was there before either of us =
could see it and stop.&nbsp; After our teeth quit vibrating, we =
continued on the rally and soon came upon a couple of ladies parked in =
the middle of the road with the bonnet up.&nbsp; After we stopped to see =
what we could do for them, we decided we might as well quit the rally at =
that point and returned to the hotel.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>It =
was only during the slow parade through Gatlinburg that night that I =
felt something knock against the steering column whenever I went over a =
manhole.&nbsp; Next morning, I discovered the shock absorber was only =
attached at the inboard side and rocking back to hit the column with =
movement of the suspension.&nbsp; Amazing that it didn't break =
off.&nbsp; The shock attach bolts were lock wired to each other, so the =
shock pulled the whole top of the plate off on three =
sides.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Busted flat in Gatlinburg....how to get it fixed on a =
Sunday morning was the puzzle.&nbsp; The great Healey minds got together =
in the parking garage and Bill Walton volunteered to trailer my car back =
to Charlotte for repair if I would drive his BT7.&nbsp; It poured rain =
all the way, and Bill didn't have the side curtains installed.... =
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><img border=3D0 width=3D94 height=3D47 =
id=3D"gmail-m_131279157036567460Picture_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"TARHEELY license =
plate"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Michael Oritt [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, =
May 13, 2019 10:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Simple camber adjustment =
fix?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Steve--</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>As I recall I was your navigator on that =
run.&nbsp; Maybe I should have had my eyes on the road rather than the =
written materials....</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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