Subject: Re: [Healeys] gasket

From: "John Spaur" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 23:07:47 -0700

Gasket sealer is almost always required when installing gaskets.

John Spaur
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From: Don via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 07:44:27 -0400

I’m working on a BJ-8 right now and I’m having a hard time stopping very slight fuel leaking out of the two banjo unions between the carbs . And I installed new fiber washers . Would it be ok to try some  gasket sealer on the fiber washers ? 
         Don       67 BJ-8 

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From: Kees Oudesluijs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 14:31:38 +0200

Give the washers a good soak for a few days in petrol/diesel and tighten 
up, get softer fibre washers from a plumber or use new soft 
copper/aluminium (with or without sealant) washers.

Kees Oudesluijs

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:35:17 +0000 (UTC)

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Each banjo requires different gasket on each side. I.E. (1) banjo requires =
(2) gaskets & the gaskets are different. I am not at home & cannot provide =
specific details. Contact BCS for the gaskets. I do not recommend sealant i=
n this application. If you have the correct gaskets & it is still leaking, =
something else is reason. Find the reason.Gary Hodson=C2=A0

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] gasket

I=E2=80=99m working on a BJ-8 right now and I=E2=80=99m having a hard time =
stopping very slight fuel leaking out of the two banjo unions between the c=
arbs . And I installed new fiber washers . Would it be ok to try some=C2=A0=
 gasket sealer on the fiber washers ?=20
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 67 BJ-8=20

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<div>Each banjo requires different gasket on each side. I.E. (1) banjo requ=
ires (2) gaskets &amp; the gaskets are different. I am not at home &amp; ca=
nnot provide specific details. Contact BCS for the gaskets. I do not recomm=
end sealant in this application. If you have the correct gaskets &amp; it i=
s still leaking, something else is reason. Find the reason.</div>

<div>Gary Hodson&nbsp;<br>
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From: Don via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: John Spaur &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 6:44 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] gasket<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m working on a BJ-8 right now and I=E2=80=99m ha=
ving a hard time stopping very slight fuel leaking out of the two banjo uni=
ons between the carbs . And I installed new fiber washers . Would it be ok =
to try some&nbsp; gasket sealer on the fiber washers ? <br clear=3D"none">&=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Don&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  67 BJ-8 <br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none">Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none">&gt; On May 24, 2019, at 2:07 AM, John Spaur &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jm=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br cl=
ear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Gasket sealer is almost always re=
quired when installing gaskets.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&=
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From: warthodson--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 20:37:44 +0000 (UTC)

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Don,=C2=A0You appear to be correct.=C2=A0However, I am home now & am able t=
o do some more research. I think I was confusing information about banjo fi=
ttings on new SU fuel pumps. See attached article by Dave DuBois.=C2=A0
However, I stand by my statement that "If you have the correct gaskets & it=
 is still leaking, something else is the reason". I do not believe sealant =
is required for this application.=C2=A0
I did some more "research" on the SU carb banjo fittings & made an interest=
ing discovery which may apply to the leaking fittings mentioned in the orig=
inal inquiry.The banjo fitting has one side that has a recess machined into=
 the surface that mates with the head of the banjo bolt. The ID of the rece=
ss measures .882" +/-.=C2=A0I have 4 gaskets (#12-1829 from Victoria Britis=
h) that measure .891" +/- OD. They will not fit into the recess. If they we=
re jammed into the recess by trying to tighten the bolt, they might not be =
sealing correctly. I also have one gasket that measures .870" +/- OD & it f=
its nicely into the recess. I do not know where I got it but it has part nu=
mber AUC2141 on the bag.=C2=A0If someone has an unused Moss #370-650 gasket=
 they might share the OD measurement with us.
Gary Hodson
-----Original Message-----
From: fsufan1952 <[email-masked]>

Gary , I=E2=80=99ve never seen to use 2 different fiber gaskets on the banj=
o unions . Every parts breakdowns I have , and I have a lot only show the s=
ame fiber gaskets on either side of the banjo union . On the float chamber =
lid there is an aluminum top washer and a fiber washer on the bottom of the=
 cap bolt . Maybe that=E2=80=99s what your referring to .=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don=C2=A0

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<div>Don,&nbsp;</div>

<div>You appear to be correct.&nbsp;</div>

<div>However, I am home now &amp; am able to do some more research. I think=
 I was confusing information about banjo fittings on <b>new</b> SU fuel pum=
ps. See attached article by Dave DuBois.&nbsp;</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>However, I stand by my statement that "<span style=3D"display: inline =
!important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)=
; font-family: arial; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; font-variant:=
 normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webki=
t-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">If you h=
ave the correct gaskets &amp; it is still leaking, something else is the re=
ason". I do not believe sealant is required for this application.&nbsp;</sp=
an></div>

<div><span style=3D"display: inline !important; float: none; background-col=
or: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.33p=
x; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spaci=
ng: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-inden=
t: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><br>
</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"display: inline !important; float: none; background-col=
or: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.33p=
x; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spaci=
ng: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-inden=
t: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;">I did some more "research" on the SU carb banjo=
 fittings &amp; made an interesting discovery which may apply to the leakin=
g fittings mentioned in the original inquiry.</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"display: inline !important; float: none; background-col=
or: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.33p=
x; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spaci=
ng: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-inden=
t: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;">The banjo fitting has one side that has a reces=
s machined into the surface that mates with the head of the banjo bolt. The=
 ID of the recess measures .882" +/-.&nbsp;</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"display: inline !important; float: none; background-col=
or: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.33p=
x; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spaci=
ng: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-inden=
t: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;">I have 4 gaskets (#12-1829 from Victoria Britis=
h) that measure .891" +/- OD. They will not fit into the recess. If they we=
re jammed into the recess by trying to tighten the bolt, they might not be =
sealing correctly. I also have one gasket that measures .870" +/- OD &amp; =
it fits nicely into the recess. I do not know where I got it but it has par=
t number AUC2141 on the bag.&nbsp;</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"display: inline !important; float: none; background-col=
or: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.33p=
x; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spaci=
ng: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-inden=
t: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;">If someone has an unused Moss #370-650 gasket t=
hey might share the OD measurement with us.</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"display: inline !important; float: none; background-col=
or: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.33p=
x; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spaci=
ng: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-inden=
t: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><br>
</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"display: inline !important; float: none; background-col=
or: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.33p=
x; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spaci=
ng: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-inden=
t: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Gary Hodson</span></div>

<div><br>
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<div>Gary , I=E2=80=99ve never seen to use 2 different fiber gaskets on the=
 banjo unions . Every parts breakdowns I have , and I have a lot only show =
the same fiber gaskets on either side of the banjo union . On the float cha=
mber lid there is an aluminum top washer and a fiber washer on the bottom o=
f the cap bolt . Maybe that=E2=80=99s what your referring to .&nbsp;
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Don&nbsp;<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none">
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ving a hard time stopping very slight fuel leaking out of the two banjo uni=
ons between the carbs . And I installed new fiber washers . Would it be ok =
to try some&nbsp; gasket sealer on the fiber washers ? <br clear=3D"none">&=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Don&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  67 BJ-8 <br clear=3D"n=
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From: Charley Braum via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 20:16:14 -0400

I don't have measurements, but, I just did a minor refresh on my BN-1 
and the two gaskets are different. I know this now: I likely knew it 
earlier but, well, you know how that goes!

I also used a very slight bit of Hylomar applied with the tip of a 
toothpick and, after I got the placement of the gaskets correct, no 
leaks (yet).

Off-Topic - I made a Viton gasket for my sending unit years ago and it 
would leak until I put the slightest bit of Hylomar on both sides; OK since.

CB

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