Subject: [Healeys] Leaking something? 63 BJ7

From: Leonard Berkowitz <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:15:17 +0000

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Took the Healey out this afternoon for a drive.  Noticed something leaking.=
  First thought was the radiator overflow.  Nope!  Checked the radiator, th=
e hoses and the pump which all looked good and there was no "hissing" or st=
eam from any cooling system parts.  Whatever is leaking was a watery black =
liquid (definitely not antifreeze) coming from the underside of the steerin=
g box.  What makes no sense is that it only starts to leak with the engine =
running.  It appears to be a fairly constant flow and fairly rapid but stop=
s as soon as the engine is shut down.   It is coming from the bottom front =
of the steering box not from the steering arm where it leaves the box.  Wha=
tever is leaking only feel a little oily but is very watery and black.   I =
don't have power steering so there isn't any increase in pressure with the =
engine running, plus it doesn't look or feel like power steering fluid.  I =
have run out of ideas.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Len

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Took the Healey out this afternoon for a drive.&nbsp; Noticed something lea=
king.&nbsp; First thought was the radiator overflow.&nbsp; Nope!&nbsp; Chec=
ked the radiator, the hoses and the pump which all looked good and there wa=
s no &quot;hissing&quot; or steam from any cooling system parts.&nbsp;
 Whatever is leaking was a watery black liquid (definitely not antifreeze) =
coming from the underside of the steering box.&nbsp; What makes no sense is=
 that it only starts to leak with the engine running.&nbsp; It appears to b=
e a fairly constant flow and fairly rapid
 but stops as soon as the engine is shut down.&nbsp; &nbsp;It is coming fro=
m the bottom front of the steering box not from the steering arm where it l=
eaves the box.&nbsp; Whatever is leaking only feel a little oily but is ver=
y watery and black.&nbsp; &nbsp;I don't have power steering
 so there isn't any increase in pressure with the engine running, plus it d=
oesn't look or feel like power steering fluid.&nbsp; I have run out of idea=
s.&nbsp; Any suggestions would be appreciated.</div>
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Thanks&nbsp;in advance</div>
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Len&nbsp;</div>
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From: Don via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 19:20:06 -0500

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Has the radiator been checked for fluid loss =F0=9F=A4=B7=E2=80=8D=E2=99=82=EF=
=B8=8F
   Don =20

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> On Nov 19, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> after checking the steering box oil level I would be looking at the weep h=
ole on the water pump.  if that is the source he might have nothing more ser=
ious than a leaking head gasket.
>=20
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 5:52 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> Seems to me we gots two questions: 1) where is is coming from? and 2) wha=
t is it? #1 should answer #2, but not necessarily.
>>=20
>> If we rule out the steering box we can go from there (should take all of 3=
 minutes). If he's got oil in his coolant he's got a potentially major probl=
em; short of a ruptured intake hose or radiator tank--which should be obviou=
s--I can't see how you get fluid all over the steering box (a leaky shock wi=
ll greasify everything in its vicinity).
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 11/19/2020 2:12 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
>>> If it only leaks when the engine is running then the most likely source i=
s the cooling system. You need to collect a sample and see if it mixes with w=
ater. Fuel and oil won't, coolant will.
>>>=20
>>> M
>>>=20
>>> On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 4:52 p.m. Bob Spidell, <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>>>> Did you check the level of your steering box lube?
>>>>=20
>>>>> On 11/19/2020 1:15 PM, Leonard Berkowitz wrote:
>>>>> Took the Healey out this afternoon for a drive.  Noticed something lea=
king.  First thought was the radiator overflow.  Nope!  Checked the radiator=
, the hoses and the pump which all looked good and there was no "hissing" or=
 steam from any cooling system parts.  Whatever is leaking was a watery blac=
k liquid (definitely not antifreeze) coming from the underside of the steeri=
ng box.  What makes no sense is that it only starts to leak with the engine r=
unning.  It appears to be a fairly constant flow and fairly rapid but stops a=
s soon as the engine is shut down.   It is coming from the bottom front of t=
he steering box not from the steering arm where it leaves the box.  Whatever=
 is leaking only feel a little oily but is very watery and black.   I don't h=
ave power steering so there isn't any increase in pressure with the engine r=
unning, plus it doesn't look or feel like power steering fluid.  I have run o=
ut of ideas.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>>>=20
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>>>>> Len=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Has the radiator been checked for fluid los=
s =F0=9F=A4=B7=E2=80=8D=E2=99=82=EF=B8=8F<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Don &nbsp;<br><br=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Nov 19, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys &lt;heal=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">after checking the steerin=
g box oil level I would be looking at the weep hole on the water pump.&nbsp;=
 if that is the source he might have nothing more serious than a leaking hea=
d gasket.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 5:52 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspi=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
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   =20
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    Seems to me we gots two questions: 1) where is is coming from? and
    2) what is it? #1 should answer #2, but not necessarily.<br>
    <br>
    If we rule out the steering box we can go from there (should take
    all of 3 minutes). If he's got oil in his coolant he's got a
    potentially major problem; short of a ruptured intake hose or
    radiator tank--which should be obvious--I can't see how you get
    fluid all over the steering box (a leaky shock will greasify
    everything in its vicinity).<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 11/19/2020 2:12 PM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"auto">If it only leaks when the engine is running then
        the most likely source is the cooling system. You need to
        collect a sample and see if it mixes with water. Fuel and oil
        won't, coolant will.
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">M</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 4:52
          p.m. Bob Spidell, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div> Did you check the level of your steering box lube?<br>
            <br>
            <div>On 11/19/2020 1:15 PM, Leonard Berkowitz wrote:<br>
            </div>
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              <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                Took the Healey out this afternoon for a drive.&nbsp; Notice=
d
                something leaking.&nbsp; First thought was the radiator
                overflow.&nbsp; Nope!&nbsp; Checked the radiator, the hoses a=
nd
                the pump which all looked good and there was no
                "hissing" or steam from any cooling system parts.&nbsp;
                Whatever is leaking was a watery black liquid
                (definitely not antifreeze) coming from the underside of
                the steering box.&nbsp; What makes no sense is that it only
                starts to leak with the engine running.&nbsp; It appears to
                be a fairly constant flow and fairly rapid but stops as
                soon as the engine is shut down.&nbsp; &nbsp;It is coming fr=
om the
                bottom front of the steering box not from the steering
                arm where it leaves the box.&nbsp; Whatever is leaking only
                feel a little oily but is very watery and black.&nbsp; &nbsp=
;I
                don't have power steering so there isn't any increase in
                pressure with the engine running, plus it doesn't look
                or feel like power steering fluid.&nbsp; I have run out of
                ideas.&nbsp; Any suggestions would be appreciated.</div>
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ze:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
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ze:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                Thanks&nbsp;in advance</div>
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ze:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
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                Len&nbsp;</div>
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