Subject: [Healeys] BN1 rear springs

From: "S.Carr via Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:45:13 -0500

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Any advice from the List on fitting new springs to the rear of my BN1, so w=
e can push the chassis around in the shop?  We violated the old rule of =E2=
=80=9Cnever throw a part away until you=E2=80=99ve fitted the new one=E2=80=
=9D=E2=80=94and the new springs have much more arch than the old, and we=E2=
=80=99re trying to figure out how to compress them enough to bolt them in p=
lace.  (And of course everything is so accessible under there=E2=80=A6.)

Thanks in advance,
Sarah Carr
BN1 in PA

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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Any advice from the List on fitting =
new springs to the rear of my BN1, so we can push the chassis around in the=
 shop?=C2=A0 We violated the old rule of =E2=80=9Cnever throw a part away u=
ntil you=E2=80=99ve fitted the new one=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94and the new springs=
 have much more arch than the old, and we=E2=80=99re trying to figure out h=
ow to compress them enough to bolt them in place.=C2=A0 (And of course ever=
ything is <u>so</u> accessible under there=E2=80=A6.)</p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks in advance,</p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>Sarah Carr</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>BN1 in PA</p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"https=
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 Re: original spec: Some of the issue with the springs is that the=0Aori=
ginal material was , if I remember correctly, .051 thickness and=0Athat=
 metal is no longer available today. Most of the shops have to use=0A.06=
5 stock. Therefore, since my early BN1 used the "A" type neg.=0Acamber s=
pring (really wimpy) I chose to have the spring shop only make=0Athe lea=
ves that were broken. The finished package has to fit the=0Aoriginal U c=
lamp and plate and if you use all .065 material, it is too=0Athick and s=
tiff. Additionally, on the early frame, it is a flat floor,=0Aso there i=
s not room for a thick rolled end to fit in the space. You=0Acannot repl=
ace them with "C" type double eye springs. My ride height=0Aappears to b=
e normal, as configured now; not as low as I have seen on=0Asome other s=
quatty 100s.=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Mic=
hael MacLean via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: "S.Carr", "Michael Salter"=0ACc: "hea=
leys"=0ASent: Saturday November 14 2020 9:00:45AM=0ASubject: Re: [Healey=
s] BN1 rear springs=0A=0A I bought my springs from here. Made to origina=
l spec.=0ABCC | British Class Car specialists in Braking and Suspension=
 Upgrades=0A[1]=0A=0ABCC | BRITISH CLASS CAR SPECIALISTS IN BRAKING AND=
 SUSPENSION UPGRADES=0A=0A=09BCC | British Classic Car Parts designed an=
d manufactured in the UK,=0Athe highest quality bespoke brake upgrades,.=
.=0A=0ANo financial interest, just a satisfied customer.Mike MacLean=0A=
=0A    On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 8:30:04 AM PST, Michael Salter vi=
a=0AHealeys  wrote:  =0A=0A That's not an easy job. =0ABefore tackling i=
t try to determine that the springs that you are=0Ainstalling are reason=
ably close to spec. as it is a real pain to have=0Ato change them if the=
y aren't.Put the axle in position, preferably=0Awithout the brake back p=
lates installed, then install the springs=0Awithout attaching them to th=
e axle. Sometimes after attaching the=0Afront you have to put a wood blo=
ck above the rear end of the spring=0Aand jack up the center to get the=
 rear shackle pins in place. You may=0Aneed a heavy person to sit in the=
 trunk to prevent the car from=0Alifting as you do this.=0ANext use a co=
uple of _VERY STOUT_ zip ties to tie the axle down=0Atightly to the fram=
e on one side. =0AThen on the other side use a very large and strong "C"=
 clamp to pull=0Athe spring up to the axle. which will allow you to inst=
all the square=0Ashaped "U" bolts. (the wire ties are required to preven=
t the axle=0Apivoting up on the opposite frame rail as you do this "C" c=
lamp thing.=0A(Take care and your time as there is a lot of stored energ=
y in that=0Acompressed spring) Leaving the zip ties in place repeat the=
 "C" clamp=0Aprocess on the other side. =0AThe bad news about this is th=
at the new springs will sag after a=0Acouple of years and eventually you=
 will have to repeat the entire=0Aprocess!!!=0AM=0A=0AOn Sat, Nov 14, 20=
20 at 10:45 AM S.Carr via Healeys  wrote:=0A=0A=09Any advice from the Li=
st on fitting new springs to the rear of my=0ABN1, so we can push the ch=
assis around in the shop? We violated the=0Aold rule of =E2=80=9Cnever t=
hrow a part away until you=E2=80=99ve fitted the new=0Aone=E2=80=9D=E2=
=80=94and the new springs have much more arch than the old, and=0Awe=E2=
=80=99re trying to figure out how to compress them enough to bolt them=
=0Ain place. (And of course everything is so accessible under there=E2=
=80=A6.)=0A=0A=09Thanks in advance,=0A=0A=09Sarah Carr=0A=0A=09BN1 in PA=
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<html><body>&nbsp;Re: original spec: Some of the issue with the springs=
 is that the original material was , if I remember correctly, .051 thick=
ness and that metal is no longer available today. Most of the shops have=
 to use .065 stock.&nbsp; Therefore, since my early BN1 used the "A" typ=
e neg. camber spring (really wimpy) I chose to have the spring shop only=
 make the leaves that were broken.&nbsp; The finished package has to fit=
 the original U clamp and plate and if you use all .065 material, it is=
 too thick and stiff. Additionally, on the early frame, it is a flat flo=
or, so there is not room for a thick rolled end to fit in the space. You=
 cannot replace them with "C" type double eye springs. My ride height ap=
pears to be normal, as configured now; not as low as I have seen on some=
 other squatty 100s.<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>=
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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">No financial interest, just a satisfied c=
ustomer.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean<br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br></div>=0A        =0A        </div><div id=3D"=
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                  On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 8:30:04 AM PST, Michae=
l Salter via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:=0A          =
      </div>=0A                <div><br></div>=0A                <div><b=
r></div>=0A                <div><div id=3D"yiv8735671961"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic=
 sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">That's not an easy job. <br></div=
><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Before tackling it try to determine=
 that the springs that you are installing are reasonably close to spec.=
 as it is a real pain to have to change them if they aren't.</div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,=
 sans-serif;font-size:small;">Put the axle in position, preferably witho=
ut the brake back plates installed, then install the springs without att=
aching them to the axle. Sometimes after attaching the front you have to=
 put a wood block above the rear end of the spring and jack up the cente=
r to get the rear shackle pins in place. You may need a heavy person to=
 sit in the trunk to prevent the car from lifting as you do this.<br></d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic=
 sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Next use a couple of <i><b>very s=
tout</b></i> zip ties to tie the axle down tightly to the frame on one s=
ide. <br></div><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Then on the other side=
 use a very large and strong "C" clamp to pull the spring up to the axle=
  which will allow you to install the square shaped "U" bolts. (the wir=
e ties are required to prevent the axle pivoting up on the opposite fram=
e rail as you do this "C" clamp thing. =0A(Take care and your time as th=
ere is a lot of stored energy in that compressed spring)=0A=0A</div><div=
 class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Leaving the zip ties in place repeat the=
 "C" clamp process on the other side. <br></div><div class=3D"yiv8735671=
961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small;">The bad news about this&nbsp; is that the new springs will sa=
g after a couple of years and eventually you will have to repeat the ent=
ire process!!!</div><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, s=
ans-serif;font-size:small;">M<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv873567=
1961gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_attr">On S=
at, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM S.Carr via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><d=
iv lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail-m_938927296483491679W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv8735671961MsoNormal">Any advice from the Lis=
t on fitting new springs to the rear of my BN1, so we can push the chass=
is around in the shop?&nbsp; We violated the old rule of =E2=80=9Cnever=
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=80=94and the new springs have much more arch than the old, and we=E2=80=
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