Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 rear springs

From: Michael Salter via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:25:32 -0500

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That's not an easy job.
Before tackling it try to determine that the springs that you are
installing are reasonably close to spec. as it is a real pain to have to
change them if they aren't.
Put the axle in position, preferably without the brake back plates
installed, then install the springs without attaching them to the axle.
Sometimes after attaching the front you have to put a wood block above the
rear end of the spring and jack up the center to get the rear shackle pins
in place. You may need a heavy person to sit in the trunk to prevent the
car from lifting as you do this.
Next use a couple of *very stout* zip ties to tie the axle down tightly to
the frame on one side.
Then on the other side use a very large and strong "C" clamp to pull the
spring up to the axle. which will allow you to install the square shaped
"U" bolts. (the wire ties are required to prevent the axle pivoting up on
the opposite frame rail as you do this "C" clamp thing. (Take care and your
time as there is a lot of stored energy in that compressed spring)
Leaving the zip ties in place repeat the "C" clamp process on the other
side.
The bad news about this  is that the new springs will sag after a couple of
years and eventually you will have to repeat the entire process!!!

M

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM S.Carr via Healeys <[email-masked]=
wrote:

> Any advice from the List on fitting new springs to the rear of my BN1, so
> we can push the chassis around in the shop?  We violated the old rule of
> =E2=80=9Cnever throw a part away until you=E2=80=99ve fitted the new one=
=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94and the new
> springs have much more arch than the old, and we=E2=80=99re trying to fig=
ure out
> how to compress them enough to bolt them in place.  (And of course
> everything is *so* accessible under there=E2=80=A6.)
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Sarah Carr
>
> BN1 in PA
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">That&#39;s not an easy job. <br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:small">Before tackling it try to determine that the springs that you=
 are installing are reasonably close to spec. as it is a real pain to have =
to change them if they aren&#39;t.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Put the axle in p=
osition, preferably without the brake back plates installed, then install t=
he springs without attaching them to the axle. Sometimes after attaching th=
e front you have to put a wood block above the rear end of the spring and j=
ack up the center to get the rear shackle pins in place. You may need a hea=
vy person to sit in the trunk to prevent the car from lifting as you do thi=
s.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Next use a couple of <i><b>very stout</b></i> =
zip ties to tie the axle down tightly to the frame on one side. <br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:small">Then on the other side use a very large and strong &quot;C&=
quot; clamp to pull the spring up to the axle.  which will allow you to ins=
tall the square shaped &quot;U&quot; bolts. (the wire ties are required to =
prevent the axle pivoting up on the opposite frame rail as you do this &quo=
t;C&quot; clamp thing.=20
(Take care and your time as there is a lot of stored energy in that compres=
sed spring)

</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-=
serif;font-size:small">Leaving the zip ties in place repeat the &quot;C&quo=
t; clamp process on the other side. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The bad news=
 about this=C2=A0 is that the new springs will sag after a couple of years =
and eventually you will have to repeat the entire process!!!</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size=
:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic s=
ans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:45=
 AM S.Carr via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">healey=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_93892729648349167=
9WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any advice from the List on fitting n=
ew springs to the rear of my BN1, so we can push the chassis around in the =
shop?=C2=A0 We violated the old rule of =E2=80=9Cnever throw a part away un=
til you=E2=80=99ve fitted the new one=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94and the new springs =
have much more arch than the old, and we=E2=80=99re trying to figure out ho=
w to compress them enough to bolt them in place.=C2=A0 (And of course every=
thing is <u>so</u> accessible under there=E2=80=A6.)</p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks in advance,</p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Sarah Carr</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">BN1 in PA</p><p c=
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From: Michael MacLean via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:59:35 +0000 (UTC)

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 I bought my springs from here.=C2=A0 Made to original spec.
BCC | British Class Car specialists in Braking and Suspension Upgrades

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No financial interest, just a satisfied customer.Mike MacLean

    On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 8:30:04 AM PST, Michael Salter via Heal=
eys <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 That's not an easy job.=20
Before tackling it try to determine that the springs that you are installin=
g are reasonably close to spec. as it is a real pain to have to change them=
 if they aren't.Put the axle in position, preferably without the brake back=
 plates installed, then install the springs without attaching them to the a=
xle. Sometimes after attaching the front you have to put a wood block above=
 the rear end of the spring and jack up the center to get the rear shackle =
pins in place. You may need a heavy person to sit in the trunk to prevent t=
he car from lifting as you do this.
Next use a couple of very stout zip ties to tie the axle down tightly to th=
e frame on one side.=20
Then on the other side use a very large and strong "C" clamp to pull the sp=
ring up to the axle. which will allow you to install the square shaped "U" =
bolts. (the wire ties are required to prevent the axle pivoting up on the o=
pposite frame rail as you do this "C" clamp thing. (Take care and your time=
 as there is a lot of stored energy in that compressed spring)Leaving the z=
ip ties in place repeat the "C" clamp process on the other side.=20
The bad news about this=C2=A0 is that the new springs will sag after a coup=
le of years and eventually you will have to repeat the entire process!!!
M

> wrote:

Any advice from the List on fitting new springs to the rear of my BN1, so w=
e can push the chassis around in the shop?=C2=A0 We violated the old rule o=
f =E2=80=9Cnever throw a part away until you=E2=80=99ve fitted the new one=
=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94and the new springs have much more arch than the old, and=
 we=E2=80=99re trying to figure out how to compress them enough to bolt the=
m in place.=C2=A0 (And of course everything is so accessible under there=E2=
=80=A6.)

=C2=A0

Thanks in advance,

Sarah Carr

BN1 in PA

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                    On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 8:30:04 AM PST, Michael=
 Salter via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv8735671961"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-se=
rif;font-size:small;">That's not an easy job. <br></div><div class=3D"yiv87=
35671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-=
size:small;">Before tackling it try to determine that the springs that you =
are installing are reasonably close to spec. as it is a real pain to have t=
o change them if they aren't.</div><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Put the =
axle in position, preferably without the brake back plates installed, then =
install the springs without attaching them to the axle. Sometimes after att=
aching the front you have to put a wood block above the rear end of the spr=
ing and jack up the center to get the rear shackle pins in place. You may n=
eed a heavy person to sit in the trunk to prevent the car from lifting as y=
ou do this.<br></div><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Next use a couple of <=
i><b>very stout</b></i> zip ties to tie the axle down tightly to the frame =
on one side. <br></div><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Then on the other si=
de use a very large and strong "C" clamp to pull the spring up to the axle.=
  which will allow you to install the square shaped "U" bolts. (the wire ti=
es are required to prevent the axle pivoting up on the opposite frame rail =
as you do this "C" clamp thing.=20
(Take care and your time as there is a lot of stored energy in that compres=
sed spring)

</div><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic =
sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Leaving the zip ties in place repeat =
the "C" clamp process on the other side. <br></div><div class=3D"yiv8735671=
961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:=
small;">The bad news about this&nbsp; is that the new springs will sag afte=
r a couple of years and eventually you will have to repeat the entire proce=
ss!!!</div><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv87356=
71961gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small;">M<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv8735671961gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:4=
5 AM S.Carr via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
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71961gmail-m_938927296483491679WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv8735671961MsoNo=
rmal">Any advice from the List on fitting new springs to the rear of my BN1=
, so we can push the chassis around in the shop?&nbsp; We violated the old =
rule of =E2=80=9Cnever throw a part away until you=E2=80=99ve fitted the ne=
w one=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94and the new springs have much more arch than the old=
, and we=E2=80=99re trying to figure out how to compress them enough to bol=
t them in place.&nbsp; (And of course everything is <u>so</u> accessible un=
der there=E2=80=A6.)</p><p class=3D"yiv8735671961MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u=
></u></p><p class=3D"yiv8735671961MsoNormal">Thanks in advance,</p><p class=
=3D"yiv8735671961MsoNormal">Sarah Carr</p><p class=3D"yiv8735671961MsoNorma=
l">BN1 in PA</p><p class=3D"yiv8735671961MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p=
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