Subject: Re: [Healeys] Crankshaft

From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 17:11:35 +0000 ISvBUSVYgBzptGl1b3fE82sb/VMoaoSzzMJVVTXa8k+sUkJh3PV+HBV04yqBE5Gu2aWsKXJHywyWXTfKfqFs6Ct3aB3ET/BEB1U98lRAIuFV5nc7jhxyTCj9 fJUUcJ6XrYnWuEPBodCjNp3jFoOqPHT3fR50mfYnbms=

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The "weakness" in the original 100, A-90 crankshaft was the lack of a=0A=
harmonic balancer, coupled with a huge heavy flywheel. More than=0Alikel=
y, the crank that was sought after for replacement, had cracks=0Anear th=
e rear main area where it vibrated itself to death. A case for=0Anot rev=
ving the engine over 4000 rpms. (Donald Healey set strict=0Aorders for a=
ll his racers to keep the revs down).=0AThey (BMC) fixed all that, or sh=
ould I say Morris Motors, fixed it by=0Aadding the harmonic balancer to=
 the early 100-6 engine. Too bad they=0Alost points in other areas, but=
 by the time the 2912cc engine was=0Adeveloped, they did in fact fix all=
 that...best six made! Hank=0A=0A=09------------------------------------=
-----From: "David Porter via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: "Michael MacLean", "heale=
[email-masked]"=0ACc: =0ASent: Saturday October 30 2021 4:20:15AM=0AS=
ubject: Re: [Healeys] Crankshaft=0A=0A=09Don't over think this. Just bec=
ause it will rev much better doesn't=0Amean it gets used all the time, b=
ut it's there. Of course the addition=0Aof other lighter bits and an AL=
 head and expensive harmonic balancer=0Awill have you at a greater expen=
se. Speed costs money, how fast do you=0Awant to go?. The AH four makes=
 excellent bottom end torque. The huge=0Amain caps handle it just fine.=
 The original crank is the weak link. DP=0A=0A=0A On October 30, 2021, a=
t 3:22 AM, Michael MacLean via Healeys  wrote:=0A=0A  Wouldn't you have=
 to beef up the main caps and add straps across=0Athem to handle the cra=
nk in higher RPM? Just a thought with only 3=0Amain bearings and no harm=
onic balancer.=0A Mike MacLean=0A=0A On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:48 PM WIL=
LIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys =0Awrote:=0A   I=E2=80=99d say it doesn=E2=
=80=99t transform the engine by itself, but it=0Aprovides a stronger bas=
is for the other mods that will. =0A Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 =0A---------=
----------------=0A FROM: Healeys  on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys=
 =0ASENT: Saturday, October 30, 2021 1:16 AM=0ATO: richard mayor =0ACC:=
 [email-masked] =0ASUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Crankshaft      Does i=
t de-stroke the engine=0A(shorter throws)? =0A=0AOn Oct 29, 2021, at 5:0=
5 PM, richard mayor via Healeys  wrote:=0A=0A   =EF=BB=BF But a lightene=
d flywheel will get you there quicker.=0A=0A On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:1=
9 PM Michael Salter via Healeys  wrote:=0A  David, how does changing the=
 crankshaft give you 2000 additional=0ARPM? Lighter rods and pistons, ba=
lancing, cam timing, bigger valves,=0Aporting, bigger carbs, shorter str=
oke, even increased compression may=0Aall contribute to higher RPM but a=
 crank alone will not make any=0Adifference, neither will a lightened fl=
ywheel.  M  =0A On Fri., Oct. 29, 2021, 6:03 p.m. David P via Healeys, =
 wrote:=0A=0A=09lighter, stronger, 2000+ additional rpms ,add a wee bit=
 of cam and=0Aits a stormer and looks dead stock.. add a real seal and g=
o have some=0Afun. As I said IMHO.. It ain't cheap. dp I understand one=
 is going on=0ABAT in the near future. Black over red..=0A On 10/29/2021=
 3:25 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:=0A  Confirmation bias is a v=
ery powerful force. =0A M  =0A On Fri., Oct. 29, 2021, 3:35 p.m. Bob Spi=
dell via Healeys,  wrote:=0A  OK, I'll bite: How does a Welch crank tran=
sform a a 100? I get that=0A they're steel and stronger, and should with=
stand more RPM/HP, but=0Adoes=0A the crank alone do it?=0A=0A Bob=0A=0A=
 On 10/29/2021 8:10 AM, David P via Healeys wrote:=0A >=0A > pretty much=
 hen's teeth is my guess. But a Welsh crank, it=0Atransforms=0A > the en=
gine. IMHO I'm sure Donald wishes they were available in '54=0A >=0A > O=
n 10/28/2021 2:29 PM, Robert Memler via Healeys wrote:=0A >> I need a cr=
ankshaft for a 54 b;no. Does anyone have a spare that=0Athey=0A >> would=
 be willing to sell?=0A >>=0A >> Thanks, Bob Memler=0A >>=0A=0A ________=
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<html><body>The "weakness" in the original 100, A-90 crankshaft was the=
 lack of a harmonic balancer, coupled with a huge heavy flywheel.&nbsp;=
 More than likely, the crank that was sought after for replacement, had=
 cracks near the rear main area where it vibrated itself to death. A cas=
e for not revving the engine over 4000 rpms. (Donald Healey set strict o=
rders for all his racers to keep the revs down).<div><br></div><div>They=
 (BMC) fixed all that, or should I say Morris Motors, fixed it by adding=
 the harmonic balancer to the early 100-6 engine.&nbsp; Too bad they los=
t points in other areas, but by the time the 2912cc engine was developed=
, they did in fact fix all that...best six made!&nbsp; Hank<br><br><div=
 class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>--------------------------------=
---------</p>From: "David Porter via Healeys" <[email-masked]><b=
r>To: "Michael MacLean", "[email-masked]"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Satur=
day October 30 2021 4:20:15AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Crankshaft<br><b=
r>=0A<p dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri">Don't over think this. Just=
=0Abecause it will rev much better doesn't mean it gets used all the=0At=
ime, but it's there. Of course the addition of other lighter bits=0Aand=
 an AL head and expensive harmonic balancer will have you at a=0Agreater=
 expense. Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?.=0AThe AH four=
 makes excellent bottom end torque. The huge main caps=0Ahandle it just=
 fine. The original crank is the weak link.=0ADP</font></p>=0A<font face=
=3D"Calibri"><br><br>=0AOn October 30, 2021, at 3:22 AM, Michael MacLean=
 via Healeys=0A&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br><br></font>=
=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div>Wouldn't you have to beef up the main caps a=
nd add straps=0Aacross them to handle the crank in higher RPM?&nbsp; Jus=
t a thought=0Awith only 3 main bearings and no harmonic balancer.<br></d=
iv>=0A<div>Mike MacLean<br></div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:4=
8 PM=0AWILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px .8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex;">=0A<div>=0A<div>I=E2=80=99d say it doesn=E2=80=99t transform the e=
ngine by itself, but it=0Aprovides a stronger basis for the other mods t=
hat will.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Bill Lawrence</div>=0A<div>BN1=
 #554</div>=0A<hr style=3D"width:98%;"><div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<font style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>F=
rom:</b> Healeys &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf=
 of Bob=0ASpidell via Healeys &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><=
b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 30, 2021 1:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> richard may=
or &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> <a>[email-masked]=
eam.net</a> &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re:=
 [Healeys] Crankshaft</font>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div=
 dir=3D"ltr"></div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Does it de-stroke the engine (sho=
rter throws)?</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
><blockquote>On Oct 29, 2021, at 5:05 PM, richard mayor=0Avia Healeys &l=
t;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote>=0A</div>=
=0A<blockquote>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">But a li=
ghtened flywheel will get you there=0Aquicker.<br></div>=0A<br><div>=0A<=
div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:19 PM Michael Salter via=0AHea=
leys &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquot=
e style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px .8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex;">=0A<div>David, how does changing the crankshaft giv=
e you=0A2000 additional RPM?=0A<div>Lighter rods and pistons, balancing,=
 cam timing,=0Abigger valves, porting, bigger carbs,&nbsp; shorter strok=
e, even=0Aincreased compression may all contribute to higher RPM but a c=
rank=0Aalone will not make any difference, neither will a lightened=0Afl=
ywheel.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>M</div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div>=0A<div dir=3D"lt=
r">On Fri., Oct. 29, 2021, 6:03 p.m. David P via=0AHealeys, &lt;<a>heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px .8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x;">=0A<div>=0A<p>lighter, stronger, 2000+ additional rpms ,add a wee bi=
t of cam=0Aand its a stormer and looks dead stock.. add a real seal and=
 go=0Ahave some fun.&nbsp; As I said IMHO.. It ain't cheap. dp&nbsp; I=
=0Aunderstand one is going on BAT in the near future. Black over=0Ared..=
<br></p>=0A<div>On 10/29/2021 3:25 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys=0Awrot=
e:<br></div>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div>Confirmation bias is a very powerful=
 force.=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>M</div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div>=0A<div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Fri., Oct. 29, 2021, 3:35 p.m. Bob Spidell via=0AHealeys, &l=
t;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px .8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex;">=0AOK, I'll bite: How does a Welch crank transform a a 1=
00? I get=0Athat<br>=0Athey're steel and stronger, and should withstand=
 more RPM/HP, but=0Adoes<br>=0Athe crank alone do it?<br><br>=0ABob<br><=
br>=0AOn 10/29/2021 8:10 AM, David P via Healeys wrote:<br>=0A&gt;<br>=
=0A&gt; pretty much hen's teeth is my guess. But a Welsh crank, it=0Atra=
nsforms<br>=0A&gt; the engine. IMHO&nbsp; I'm sure Donald wishes they we=
re=0Aavailable in '54<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt; On 10/28/2021 2:29 PM, Rober=
t Memler via Healeys wrote:<br>=0A&gt;&gt; I need a crankshaft for a 54=
 b;no. Does anyone have a=0Aspare that they<br>=0A&gt;&gt; would be will=
ing to sell?<br>=0A&gt;&gt;<br>=0A&gt;&gt; Thanks, Bob Memler<br>=0A&gt;=
&gt;<br><br>=0A_______________________________________________<br>=0ASup=
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