Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 17:52:23 -0700

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I finally got around to fixing my loose water pump pulley and installing 
a new fan belt. I ordered a 'cogged' belt from Moss--part# 
021-966--thinking it might work better than the original slab of rubber. 
I noticed before installing that it was narrower than the original type 
that I'd had, which had rotted, but it looked like it would work. Once I 
started tensioning it however, it was clear it /might /work, but sat too 
low in the pulleys, and was essentially riding on the bottom of the 
pulley grooves instead of on the sides (and the angle of the sides of 
the belt was incorrect). Anyone else tried one of these?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YA', that a vendor would sell something that 
could possibly work, but isn't truly correct.

bs

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    I finally got around to fixing my loose water pump pulley and
    installing a new fan belt. I ordered a 'cogged' belt from
    Moss--part# 021-966--thinking it might work better than the original
    slab of rubber. I noticed before installing that it was narrower
    than the original type that I'd had, which had rotted, but it looked
    like it would work. Once I started tensioning it however, it was
    clear it <i>might </i>work, but sat too low in the pulleys, and
    was essentially riding on the bottom of the pulley grooves instead
    of on the sides (and the angle of the sides of the belt was
    incorrect). Anyone else tried one of these?<br>
    <br>
    I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YA', that a vendor would sell something
    that could possibly work, but isn't truly correct.<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
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From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 17:48:01 +0000 boundary="=_8696ea6fb3b20bf48a66283de562aada" y8acxLlZY/CL1YUvHsinBkQyuxZRBrmnLeUZ2mdSxzn63o0Isq1b3DwrbEvjhVQ9hmsecgxsSOtAlThbl+biuW5i0oW9nHyiEFw=

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What's wrong with the original belt? Seems,if properly adjusted, works=
=0Ajust fine. It's available from AH Spares for $16.50 and is a Midway=
=0AB4317X (shown here). The only downside is if you wish to concours you=
r=0Acar, the writing on the belt may lose you a point. Hank=0A=0A=09----=
-------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" =0ATo: healeys@=
autox.team.net=0ACc: =0ASent: Sunday October 17 2021 10:24:30AM=0ASubjec=
t: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt=0A=0A Can't find Ferodo V161; closest I fo=
und is VS1016 (cogged).=0A=0AOn 10/17/2021 8:13 AM, Michael Salter wrote=
:=0A  As I recall the original belt for a 100 is a Ferodo V161.  I have=
=0Abeen using a B-45 Gates belts which sit a little lower in the pulley=
=0Abut don't contact the bottom of the pulley groove. =0A[1]https://www.=
biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html [2]=0A=0A M =0A=0A On Sun., Oct.=
 17, 2021, 10:16 a.m. David P via Healeys,  wrote:=0A=0A=09Gates belts h=
as a belt for industrial equipment (non automotive) that=0Ais an excelle=
nt copy of the original. Unfortunately I don't remember=0Athe part numbe=
r.. (gets worse with age). I found it googling their web=0Apages.. B1 ki=
nda rings a bell.. happy hunting. DP=0A On 10/17/2021 8:01 AM, Bob Spide=
ll wrote:=0A I'm going to return it, with '8x10 colored glossy photograp=
hs.'=0A=0AOn 10/17/2021 6:43 AM, [email-masked] wrote:=0A  Bob, The=
 way the vendors find out about an issue is if the customer=0Atells them=
. You should forward your message to Moss. Gary Hodson=0A=0A -----Origin=
al Message-----=0A From: Bob Spidell =0A To: Healeys =0A Sent: Sat, Oct=
 16, 2021 7:52 pm=0A Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt=0A=0A  I finally go=
t around to fixing my loose water pump pulley and=0Ainstalling a new fan=
 belt. I ordered a 'cogged' belt from Moss--part#=0A021-966--thinking it=
 might work better than the original slab of=0Arubber. I noticed before=
 installing that it was narrower than the=0Aoriginal type that I'd had,=
 which had rotted, but it looked like it=0Awould work. Once I started te=
nsioning it however, it was clear it=0A_might_ work, but sat too low in=
 the pulleys, and was essentially=0Ariding on the bottom of the pulley g=
rooves instead of on the sides=0A(and the angle of the sides of the belt=
 was incorrect). Anyone else=0Atried one of these?=0A=0A I'm shocked, SH=
OCKED I TELL YA', that a vendor would sell something=0Athat could possib=
ly work, but isn't truly correct.=0A=0A bs=0A=0A=0A=0ALinks:=0A------=0A=
[1] https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html=0A[2] https://www=
.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html=0A

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<html><body>What's wrong with the original belt? Seems,if properly adjus=
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ncours your car, the writing on the belt may lose you a point. Hank<br><=
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:10:57 -0700

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I think the 'knock' on big, heavy belts are weight and vibration; note 
later cars have thinner belts (but, 3/8" was apparently a bridge too far).

On 10/17/2021 10:48 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
> What's wrong with the original belt? Seems,if properly adjusted, works 
> just fine.  It's available from AH Spares for $16.50 and is a Midway 
> B4317X (shown here). The only downside is if you wish to concours your 
> car, the writing on the belt may lose you a point. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell"
> To: [email-masked]
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday October 17 2021 10:24:30AM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt
>
> Can't find Ferodo V161; closest I found is VS1016 (cogged).
>
> On 10/17/2021 8:13 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
>
>     As I recall the original belt for a 100 is a Ferodo V161.
>      I have been using a B-45 Gates belts which sit a little lower in
>     the pulley but don't contact the bottom of the pulley groove.
>     https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html
>     <https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html>
>
>     M
>
>
>     On Sun., Oct. 17, 2021, 10:16 a.m. David P via Healeys,
>     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>         Gates belts has a belt for industrial equipment (non
>         automotive) that is an excellent copy of the original.
>         Unfortunately I don't remember the part number.. (gets worse
>         with age). I found it googling their web pages.. B1 kinda
>         rings a bell.. happy hunting.  DP
>
>         On 10/17/2021 8:01 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>
>             I'm going to return it, with '8x10 colored glossy
>             photographs.'
>
>
>             On 10/17/2021 6:43 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
>
>                 Bob,
>                 The way the vendors find out about an issue is if the
>                 customer tells them.  You should forward your message
>                 to Moss.
>                 Gary Hodson
>
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
>                 To: Healeys <[email-masked]>
>                 Sent: Sat, Oct 16, 2021 7:52 pm
>                 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt
>
>                 I finally got around to fixing my loose water pump
>                 pulley and installing a new fan belt. I ordered a
>                 'cogged' belt from Moss--part# 021-966--thinking it
>                 might work better than the original slab of rubber. I
>                 noticed before installing that it was narrower than
>                 the original type that I'd had, which had rotted, but
>                 it looked like it would work. Once I started
>                 tensioning it however, it was clear it /might/ work,
>                 but sat too low in the pulleys, and was essentially
>                 riding on the bottom of the pulley grooves instead of
>                 on the sides (and the angle of the sides of the belt
>                 was incorrect). Anyone else tried one of these?
>
>                 I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YA', that a vendor would
>                 sell something that could possibly work, but isn't
>                 truly correct.
>
>                 bs
>
>
>

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    I think the 'knock' on big, heavy belts are weight and vibration;
    note later cars have thinner belts (but, 3/8" was apparently a
    bridge too far).<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/17/2021 10:48 AM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:048f168674c07fd52c484326c756d72d4a885533@webmail">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      What's wrong with the original belt? Seems,if properly adjusted,
      works just fine.  It's available from AH Spares for $16.50 and is
      a Midway B4317X (shown here). The only downside is if you wish to
      concours your car, the writing on the belt may lose you a point.
      Hank<br>
      <br>
      <p>-----------------------------------------</p>
      From: "Bob Spidell" <[email-masked]><br>
        To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
        Cc: <br>
        Sent: Sunday October 17 2021 10:24:30AM<br>
        Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt<br>
        <br>
        Can't find Ferodo V161; closest I found is VS1016 (cogged).<br>
        <br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/17/2021 8:13 AM, Michael
          Salter
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote>
          <div>As I recall the original belt for a 100 is a Ferodo
            V161.
            <div> I have been using a B-45 Gates belts which
              sit a little lower in the pulley but don't contact the
              bottom of
              the pulley groove.</div>
            <div><a
                href="https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html</a><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>M</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun., Oct. 17, 2021,
              10:16
              a.m. David P via Healeys, &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
              <div>
                <p>Gates belts has a belt for industrial equipment (non
                  automotive)
                  that is an excellent copy of the original.
                  Unfortunately I don't
                  remember the part number.. (gets worse with age). I
                  found it
                  googling their web pages.. B1 kinda rings a bell..
                  happy
                  hunting.  DP<br>
                </p>
                <div>On 10/17/2021 8:01 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote>I'm going to return it, with '8x10 colored
                  glossy photographs.'<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <div>On 10/17/2021 6:43 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>
                    wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote>
                    <div style="color:#000000;font:12pt 'Comic Sans MS',
                      sans-serif;">Bob,
                      <div>The way the vendors find out about an issue
                        is if the customer
                        tells them.  You should forward your message to
                        Moss.</div>
                      <div>Gary Hodson<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <div style="font-family:arial,
                          helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;">
                          <font size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
                            From: Bob Spidell <a moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                            To: Healeys <a moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                            Sent: Sat, Oct 16, 2021 7:52 pm<br>
                            Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt<br>
                            <br>
                          </font>
                          <div>
                            <div><font size="2">I finally got around to
                                fixing my loose water
                                pump pulley and installing a new fan
                                belt. I ordered a 'cogged'
                                belt from Moss--part# 021-966--thinking
                                it might work better than
                                the original slab of rubber. I noticed
                                before installing that it
                                was narrower than the original type that
                                I'd had, which had rotted,
                                but it looked like it would work. Once I
                                started tensioning it
                                however, it was clear it <i>might</i>
                                work, but sat too low in the
                                pulleys, and was essentially riding on
                                the bottom of the pulley
                                grooves instead of on the sides (and the
                                angle of the sides of the
                                belt was incorrect). Anyone else tried
                                one of these?<br>
                                <br>
                                I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YA', that a
                                vendor would sell something
                                that could possibly work, but isn't
                                truly correct.<br>
                                <br>
                                bs<br>
                              </font></div>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                        </div>
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                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <br>
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