Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick

From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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A small, but important point. Be sure to use the correct item #116-the=
=0Abushing for the shifter. The earlier cars used a brass bush, and the=
=0ABJs used a plastic one. They are not interchangeable. Hank=0A=0A=09--=
---------------------------------------From: "Harold Manifold via=0AHeal=
eys" =0ATo: "Bob Spidell", "Healeys", "[email-masked]"=0ACc: =0ASent=
: Monday October 18 2021 4:00:56PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey=
 Shift Stick=0A=0A=09Bob x 2, =0A=0A=09The gear shift is not held in pla=
ce by bolts it is held in place with=0Atwo roll pins on each side. The r=
oll pins I have measure 0.1755=E2=80=9D=0Adiameter x 0.59=E2=80=9D long.=
 The pins are removed by driving them into the=0Around part of the gear=
 shift lever. BMC part number is AEA558, item=0A#118 on the attached. I=
 just happened to remove a gear shift a couple=0Aof days ago. =0A=0A=09H=
arold =0A=0A=09FROM: Bob Spidell=0ASENT: Monday, October 18, 2021 2:17 P=
M=0ATO: Healeys=0ASUBJECT: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick  =0A=0A=09F=
orwarding to The List on behalf of Bob Begani:=0A=0A ps. Bob, check your=
 email client for 'unread messages' or similar,=0AList emails are arrivi=
ng to me out of sequence.=0A=0A -------- Forwarded Message -------- =0A=
=0A=09 SUBJECT:   =0A=0A=09Healey Shift Stick  =0A=0A=09 DATE:   =0A=0A=
=09Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36 -0400  =0A=0A=09 FROM:   =0A=0A=09Bob Began=
i   =0A=0A=09 TO:   =0A=0A=09Bob Spidell   =0A=0A=09It seems I am not ab=
le to send to the Healey Group so I am writing to=0Ayou directly because=
 you just wrote to Tom regarding trans shift=0Aproblems.  =0A=0A=09Thank=
s for your help, =0A=0A=09Bob Begani =0A=0A=09FROM: [email-masked]=
 =0ASENT: Saturday, October 16, 2021 10:01 AM=0ATO: healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net=0ASUBJECT: FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter =0A=0A=
=09Listeners: =0A=0A=09I wrote the letter below to the Group with no res=
ponse, so maybe it=0Awent astray. Meanwhile, I researched the archives f=
or information and=0Afound the following: =0A=0A=09the thing happened to=
 me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, except I was=0Astuck in =0A=0A=09reverse=
. Very inconvenient Shift lever just flopped around, and would=0Anot =0A=
=0A=09engage anything. =0A=0A=09The small bottom "ball" of the shift lev=
er had come out of its socket=0Ain the =0A=0A=09remote shift rod that go=
es into the top of the transmission. =0A=0A=09you have a Moss catalog, l=
ook at page 84, item #31. It is N/A, but=0Ayou =0A=0A=09can make one. Pu=
ll off the console and the cover of the transmission.=0AIf =0A=0A=09my p=
roblem is the same as yours, one of the small "tits" on the end=0Aof the=
 =0A=0A=09bolt that goes into the side of the shift tower has broken off=
 which=0Aallows =0A=0A=09the shift lever to go past its normal range and=
 disengage from its=0Asocket. =0A=0A=09This "tit" fits into a slot in th=
e side of the big ball on the shift=0Alever, =0A=0A=09controlling its si=
de-to-side motion. If the lever goes too far to one=0Aside =0A=0A=09of t=
he other, it comes out of the socket and flops around. =0A=0A=09Get a lo=
ng bolt w/ the same threads as the broken one, check the=0Aoverall =0A=
=0A=09length, turn the end down so it will fit into the slot, and you ar=
e=0Adone. =0A=0A=09So, I followed those instructions and found the tits=
 were worn and no=0Alonger fitting into the groove in the ball. My frien=
d the machinist=0Awas going to make new bolts, when we decided to remove=
 the thick lock=0Awashers and screwed bolts into the groove of the ball.=
 With a little=0Aadjustment of the length of the bolt into the grove, we=
 got the=0Ashifter to go through all the gears. My question to the Group=
, is this=0Athe finished product? Or should we make new longer bolts. Do=
es and one=0Aknow the length, and so on? =0A=0A=09As I looked on the Mos=
s catalog, I noticed that there should have=0Abeen a bushing at the bott=
om of the of the shift stick. The into=0Asocket the shift stick rides is=
 not too worn, so I am hoping that a=0Anew bush and circle clip, bearing=
 grease assembly and so on will get=0Ame back on the road.  =0A=0A=09Let=
 me know if you have any suggestions, =0A=0A=09Regards, =0A=0A=09Bob Beg=
ani =0A=0A=09BJ8 late model =0A=0A=09FROM: [email-masked] =0ASENT: T=
hursday, October 14, 2021 11:48 AM=0ATO: [email-masked]=
=0ASUBJECT: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter =0A=0A=09I backed th=
e Healey out of the garage into the street, shifted into=0Afirst to stra=
ight out, into neutral and moved the shifter to the left=0Aand noticed i=
t when all the way left and that it is loose. The trans=0Ais locked in r=
everse. When the engine is off the shifter is sloppy.=0ASo, before I rem=
ove the shift stick from the trans, What should I do? =0A=0A=09Bob Began=
i    =0A=0A=0967 BJ8 =0A=0A=09

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<html><body>A small, but important point.&nbsp; Be sure to use the corre=
ct item #116-the bushing for the shifter. The earlier cars used a brass=
 bush, and the BJs used a plastic one. They are not interchangeable. Han=
k<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>-------------------=
----------------------</p>From: "Harold Manifold via Healeys" <healeys@a=
utox.team.net><br>To: "Bob Spidell", "Healeys", "[email-masked]"<br>=
Cc: <br>Sent: Monday October 18 2021 4:00:56PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys]=
 Fwd: Healey Shift Stick<br><br>=0A<div class=3D"WordSection1">=0A<p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">Bob x 2,</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">The gear shift is not held in place by bolts=0Ait is=
 held in place with two roll pins on each side. The roll pins=0AI have m=
easure 0.1755=E2=80=9D diameter x 0.59=E2=80=9D long. The pins are remov=
ed=0Aby driving them into the round part of the gear shift lever. BMC=0A=
part number is AEA558, item #118 on the attached. I just happened=0Ato r=
emove a gear shift a couple of days ago.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&n=
bsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&n=
bsp;</p>=0A<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1pt;paddin=
g:3pt 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;paddi=
ng:0in;"><b>From:</b>=0A<a>Bob Spidell</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, Octob=
er 18, 2021 2:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a>Healeys</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Hea=
leys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick</p>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbs=
p;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Forwarding to The List on behalf of Bob=0ABegani:<br><br>=0Aps. Bob,=
 check your email client for 'unread messages' or similar,=0AList emails=
 are arriving to me out of sequence.<br><br><br>=0A-------- Forwarded Me=
ssage --------</p>=0A<table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellsp=
acing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td nowrap=3D"" valign=3D"top"=
 style=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"r=
ight" style=3D"text-align:right;">=0A<b>Subject:</b></p>=0A</td>=0A<td s=
tyle=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Healey Shift=
 Stick</p>=0A</td>=0A</tr><tr><td nowrap=3D"" valign=3D"top" style=3D"pa=
dding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"right" style=
=3D"text-align:right;">=0A<b>Date:</b></p>=0A</td>=0A<td style=3D"paddin=
g:0in 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36=
 -0400</p>=0A</td>=0A</tr><tr><td nowrap=3D"" valign=3D"top" style=3D"pa=
dding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"right" style=
=3D"text-align:right;">=0A<b>From:</b></p>=0A</td>=0A<td style=3D"paddin=
g:0in 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Begani <a>&lt;rfbegani=
@gmail.com&gt;</a></p>=0A</td>=0A</tr><tr><td nowrap=3D"" valign=3D"top"=
 style=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"r=
ight" style=3D"text-align:right;">=0A<b>To:</b></p>=0A</td>=0A<td style=
=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Spidell <a>&=
lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a></p>=0A</td>=0A</tr></tbody></table><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">&nbsp;</p>=0A<div>=0A<p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial, sa=
ns-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:18pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">It seems I am not=0Aable to=
 send to the Healey Group so I am writing to you directly=0Abecause you=
 just wrote to Tom regarding trans shift=0Aproblems.&nbsp;</span></p>=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial,=
 sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Thanks for your=0Ahelp,</=
span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Bob=0ABegani</=
span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>F=
rom:</b> <a><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">[email-masked]</span></a>=
 &lt;<a><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">[email-masked]</span></a>&gt;=
<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 16, 2021 10:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a><s=
pan style=3D"color:#0563C1;">[email-masked]</span></a><b=
r><b>Subject:</b> FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter</p>=0A<p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Listeners:</span></p>=0A<p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sa=
ns-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">I wrote the=0Aletter below t=
o the Group with no response, so maybe it went=0Aastray.&nbsp; Meanwhile=
, I researched the archives for information=0Aand found the following:</=
span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">the thing=0Aha=
ppened to me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, except I was stuck=0Ain</span><=
/p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:A=
rial, sans-serif;">reverse.&nbsp;=0AVery inconvenient&nbsp;&nbsp; Shift=
 lever just flopped around, and=0Awould not</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">en=
gage=0Aanything.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">The small bottom=0A"ball" of=
 the shift lever had come out of its socket in=0Athe</span></p>=0A<p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-s=
erif;">remote shift rod=0Athat goes into the top of the transmission.</s=
pan></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">you have a Moss=
=0Acatalog, look at page 84, item #31.&nbsp; It is N/A, but=0Ayou</span>=
</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:=
Arial, sans-serif;">can make=0Aone.&nbsp; Pull off the console and the c=
over of the transmission.=0AIf</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">my problem is t=
he=0Asame as yours, one of the small "tits" on the end of the</span></p>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Aria=
l, sans-serif;">bolt that goes=0Ainto the side of the shift tower has br=
oken off which=0Aallows</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">the shift lever=0Ato=
 go past its normal range and disengage from its=0Asocket.</span></p>=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,=
 sans-serif;">This "tit" fits=0Ainto a slot in the side of the big ball=
 on the shift=0Alever,</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">controlling its=0Asid=
e-to-side motion.&nbsp; If the lever goes too far to one=0Aside</span></=
p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Ar=
ial, sans-serif;">of the other, it=0Acomes out of the socket and flops a=
round.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt=
;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Get a long bolt=0Aw/ the same threads a=
s the broken one, check the overall</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">length, tu=
rn the=0Aend down so it will fit into the slot, and you are done.</span>=
</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:=
Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">So, I followed=0Ath=
ose instructions and found the tits were worn and no longer=0Afitting in=
to the groove in the ball. My friend the machinist was=0Agoing to make n=
ew bolts, when we decided to remove the thick lock=0Awashers and screwed=
 bolts into the groove of the ball.&nbsp; With a=0Alittle adjustment of=
 the length of the bolt into the grove, we got=0Athe shifter to go throu=
gh all the gears.&nbsp; My question to the=0AGroup, is this the finished=
 product?&nbsp; Or should we make new=0Alonger bolts. Does and one know=
 the length, and so on?</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, s=
ans-serif;">As I looked on=0Athe Moss catalog, I noticed that there shou=
ld have been a bushing=0Aat the bottom of the of the shift stick.&nbsp;=
 The &nbsp;into=0Asocket the shift stick rides is not too worn, so I am=
 hoping that a=0Anew bush and circle clip, bearing grease assembly and s=
o on will=0Aget me back on the road.&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nb=
sp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Let me know if=0Ayou have any suggestions,=
</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-=
family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Regards,</sp=
an></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-fami=
ly:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Bob=0ABegani</s=
pan></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial, sans-serif;">BJ8 late=0Amodel</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp=
;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a><span style=3D"col=
or:#0563C1;">[email-masked]</span></a> &lt;<a><span style=3D"color:#=
0563C1;">[email-masked]</span></a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, Oct=
ober 14, 2021 11:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">h=
[email-masked]</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b> BJ8 4 speed=
 transmission center shifter</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, s=
ans-serif;">I backed the=0AHealey out of the garage into the street, shi=
fted into first to=0Astraight out, into neutral and moved the shifter to=
 the left and=0Anoticed it when all the way left and that it is loose.&n=
bsp; The=0Atrans is locked in reverse.&nbsp; When the engine is off the=
=0Ashifter is sloppy.&nbsp; So, before I remove the shift stick from=0At=
he trans,&nbsp; What should I do?</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span=
></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family=
:Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Bob=0ABegani&nbsp;=
</span></p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:20pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">67 BJ8</span></p>=0A<p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A</div>=0A</[email-masked]></body></=
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From: Perry Small via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 07:40:27 -0400

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It is not a washer that is depicted in the Moss Motors catalog or the repair=
 manuals but a circlip ( spring wire) that holds the two halves of the bushi=
ng together.=20
P

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 8:21 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Later cars had 1/4 inch bolts with extended tips in place of the roll pins=
.
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Manifold via Healeys <[email-masked]>
> To: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>; Healeys <[email-masked]>; r=
[email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2021 6:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick
>=20
> Bob x 2,
> =20
> The gear shift is not held in place by bolts it is held in place with two r=
oll pins on each side. The roll pins I have measure 0.1755=E2=80=9D diameter=
 x 0.59=E2=80=9D long. The pins are removed by driving them into the round p=
art of the gear shift lever. BMC part number is AEA558, item #118 on the att=
ached. I just happened to remove a gear shift a couple of days ago.
> =20
> Harold
> =20
> From: Bob Spidell
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 2:17 PM
> To: Healeys
> Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick
> =20
> =20
> Forwarding to The List on behalf of Bob Begani:
>=20
> ps. Bob, check your email client for 'unread messages' or similar, List em=
ails are arriving to me out of sequence.
>=20
>=20
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:
> Healey Shift Stick
> Date:
> Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36 -0400
> From:
> Bob Begani <[email-masked]>
> To:
> Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
> =20
> =20
> It seems I am not able to send to the Healey Group so I am writing to you d=
irectly because you just wrote to Tom regarding trans shift problems.=20
> =20
> Thanks for your help,
> =20
> Bob Begani
> =20
> From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=20
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 10:01 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter
> =20
> Listeners:
> =20
> I wrote the letter below to the Group with no response, so maybe it went a=
stray.  Meanwhile, I researched the archives for information and found the f=
ollowing:
> =20
> the thing happened to me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, except I was stuck in=

> reverse.  Very inconvenient   Shift lever just flopped around, and would n=
ot
> engage anything.
> The small bottom "ball" of the shift lever had come out of its socket in t=
he
> remote shift rod that goes into the top of the transmission.
> =20
> you have a Moss catalog, look at page 84, item #31.  It is N/A, but you
> can make one.  Pull off the console and the cover of the transmission. If
> my problem is the same as yours, one of the small "tits" on the end of the=

> bolt that goes into the side of the shift tower has broken off which allow=
s
> the shift lever to go past its normal range and disengage from its socket.=

> This "tit" fits into a slot in the side of the big ball on the shift lever=
,
> controlling its side-to-side motion.  If the lever goes too far to one sid=
e
> of the other, it comes out of the socket and flops around.
> Get a long bolt w/ the same threads as the broken one, check the overall
> length, turn the end down so it will fit into the slot, and you are done.
> =20
> So, I followed those instructions and found the tits were worn and no long=
er fitting into the groove in the ball. My friend the machinist was going to=
 make new bolts, when we decided to remove the thick lock washers and screwe=
d bolts into the groove of the ball.  With a little adjustment of the length=
 of the bolt into the grove, we got the shifter to go through all the gears.=
  My question to the Group, is this the finished product?  Or should we make=
 new longer bolts. Does and one know the length, and so on?
> =20
> As I looked on the Moss catalog, I noticed that there should have been a b=
ushing at the bottom of the of the shift stick.  The  into socket the shift s=
tick rides is not too worn, so I am hoping that a new bush and circle clip, b=
earing grease assembly and so on will get me back on the road.=20
> =20
> Let me know if you have any suggestions,
> =20
> Regards,
> =20
> Bob Begani
> BJ8 late model
> =20
> From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=20
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:48 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter
> =20
> I backed the Healey out of the garage into the street, shifted into first t=
o straight out, into neutral and moved the shifter to the left and noticed i=
t when all the way left and that it is loose.  The trans is locked in revers=
e.  When the engine is off the shifter is sloppy.  So, before I remove the s=
hift stick from the trans,  What should I do?
> =20
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> 67 BJ8
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">It is not a washer that is depicted in the M=
oss Motors catalog or the repair manuals but a circlip ( spring wire) that h=
olds the two halves of the bushing together.&nbsp;<div>P<br><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
>On Oct 18, 2021, at 8:21 PM, [email-masked] wrote:<br><br></blockquote><=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Later ca=
rs had 1/4 inch bolts with extended tips in place of the roll pins.<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font s=
ize=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harold Manifold via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Healeys &lt;[email-masked]=
.net&gt;; [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2021 6:56 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Bob x 2,</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">The gear shift is not held in place by=
 bolts it is held in place with two roll pins on each side. The roll pins I h=
ave measure 0.1755=E2=80=9D diameter x 0.59=E2=80=9D long. The pins are remo=
ved by driving them into the round part of the gear shift lever. BMC part nu=
mber is AEA558, item #118 on the attached. I just happened to remove a gear s=
hift a couple of days ago.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Harold</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

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mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comca=
st.net">Bob Spidell</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 18, 2=
021 2:17 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener norefer=
rer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Healeys</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>=
Subject: </b>[Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Forwarding to The List on behalf of Bo=
b Begani:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">ps. Bob, check your email cli=
ent for 'unread messages' or similar, List emails are arriving to me out of s=
equence.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-------- Fo=
rwarded Message -------- </div>
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ght;"><b>Subject: </b></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Healey Shift Stick</div>
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le=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">
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ght;"><b>Date: </b></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36 -0400</div>
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le=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">
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ght;"><b>From: </b></div>
</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Bob Begani <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
 noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a></d=
iv>
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le=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">
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ght;"><b>To: </b></div>
</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Bob Spidell <a rel=3D"nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</=
a></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"> &nbsp=
;</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">It seems I am not able to send to the Healey Group so I a=
m writing to you directly because you just wrote to Tom regarding trans shif=
t problems.&nbsp; </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Thanks for your help,</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Bob Begani</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">r=
[email-masked]</span></a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">[email-masked]=
</span></a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 16, 2021 1=
0:01 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:=
#0563C1;">[email-masked]</span></a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sub=
ject:</b> FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Listeners:</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">I wrote the letter below to the Group with no response, s=
o maybe it went astray.&nbsp; Meanwhile, I researched the archives for infor=
mation and found the following:</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">the thing happened to me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, exce=
pt I was stuck in </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">reverse.&nbsp; Very inconvenient&nbsp;&nbsp; Shift lever j=
ust flopped around, and would not </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">engage anything.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">The small bottom "ball" of the shift lever had come out o=
f its socket in the </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">remote shift rod that goes into the top of the transmissi=
on.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">you have a Moss catalog, look at page 84, item #31.&nbsp;=
 It is N/A, but you </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">can make one.&nbsp; Pull off the console and the cover of=
 the transmission. If </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">my problem is the same as yours, one of the small "tits" o=
n the end of the </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">bolt that goes into the side of the shift tower has broke=
n off which allows </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">the shift lever to go past its normal range and disengage=
 from its socket. </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">This "tit" fits into a slot in the side of the big ball o=
n the shift lever, </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">controlling its side-to-side motion.&nbsp; If the lever g=
oes too far to one side </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">of the other, it comes out of the socket and flops around=
.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Get a long bolt w/ the same threads as the broken one, ch=
eck the overall </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">length, turn the end down so it will fit into the slot, a=
nd you are done.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">So, I followed those instructions and found the tits were=
 worn and no longer fitting into the groove in the ball. My friend the machi=
nist was going to make new bolts, when we decided to remove the thick lock w=
ashers and screwed bolts into the groove of the ball.&nbsp; With a little ad=
justment of the length of the bolt into the grove, we got the shifter to go t=
hrough all the gears.&nbsp; My question to the Group, is this the finished p=
roduct?&nbsp; Or should we make new longer bolts. Does and one know the leng=
th, and so on?</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">As I looked on the Moss catalog, I noticed that there sho=
uld have been a bushing at the bottom of the of the shift stick.&nbsp; The &=
nbsp;into socket the shift stick rides is not too worn, so I am hoping that a=
 new bush and circle clip, bearing grease assembly and so on will get me bac=
k on the road.&nbsp; </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Let me know if you have any suggestions,</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Regards,</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Bob Begani</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">BJ8 late model</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">r=
[email-masked]</span></a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">[email-masked]=
</span></a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 14, 2021 1=
1:48 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:=
#0563C1;">[email-masked]</span></a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sub=
ject:</b> BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">I backed the Healey out of the garage into the street, sh=
ifted into first to straight out, into neutral and moved the shifter to the l=
eft and noticed it when all the way left and that it is loose.&nbsp; The tra=
ns is locked in reverse.&nbsp; When the engine is off the shifter is sloppy.=
&nbsp; So, before I remove the shift stick from the trans,&nbsp; What should=
 I do?</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Bob Begani&nbsp; </span></div>
</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">67 BJ8</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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From: Perry Small via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 13:21:02 -0400

No, if the two set screws are in the holes they will limit the movement of the shift lever, allowing fore and aft but not side to side. The tip should rest in the bottom of the slot in neutral.  
P

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> On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:43 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
> 
> Great picture, thanks.. So you are indicating that the tip should  enter the
> hole in the shaft?
> 
> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Perry Small via
> Healeys
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:36 AM
> To: Healeys <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [Healeys] Healey Shift Stick
> 
> Bolt - including tip- 3/4 inch thread below head Tip - diameter 0.20 inch
>          Length  0.25 inch
> 
> 

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