Subject: [Healeys] Copiglia band clamps

From: Mark Donaldson via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 17:08:59 +1300

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Bob,

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I have some of those clips, generically called =E2=80=98band =
clamps=E2=80=99.   Jubilee clamps are a brand on their own, and not the =
same.

Some 40 years ago I visited Stephen Griswold=E2=80=99s restoration shop. =
 They knew them only as =E2=80=98Italian=E2=80=99 clips.  But they are =
more correctly known a Copiglia band clamps.

They are used a lot on Alfa-Romeos but, a Ferrari-owning friends tells =
me, not on Ferraris.

I have a bunch of them on my shelf. =20

The only Hundred I=E2=80=99ve seen them on is Roger Moment=E2=80=99s, =
when I last saw it in 2008 =E2=80=93 photo below.   I thought they were =
fitted only to the early BN1s.  Curt: am I correct?

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Mark

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Ardmore

New Zealand

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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 6:21 AM
To: Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]>
Cc: Healey List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bring A Trailer

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First cockpit trim piece I've seen with a groove; was this an option, or =
maybe an aftermarket piece (note the groove is apparent in the fourth =
photo on the listing; subsequent photos appear to be different)?  Here's =
my M's trim piece; AFAIK this is original, verified as 'Registry =
Certified' by the M Registry* and, of course, the BMIHT cert. =
Interesting this has a recent (September) BMIHT cert; looks like they've =
changed the wording for 'M' confirmation (my much earlier cert just =
implies this is an M car because of the 'louvred' bonnet). Beautiful car =
to be sure.

I have the same radiator hose clamps; this is the only other car I've =
seen with them; are they correct? I had a long 'conversation' with Rich =
Chrysler over these, but to this day I'm not sure if we were on the same =
page. IIRC, he called them 'Jubilee clamps,' but I think those are the =
screw-on type. One thing's for sure: they will be a royal PITA if I ever =
have to replace the hoses.

Bob

* I realize this is not the canonical source, but AFAIK it's the most =
comprehensive database available (unfortunately, probably not as =
reliable as Steve's BJ8 database). Bill requires various 'proof' items =
for 'Registry Certification,' like proper stamped numbers on trim =
pieces, the boot prop, etc. and the hand-scribed notations on the carbs =
and, I think, the distributor (though they may be stamped). Note I'm not =
interested in disputing anybody's car's authenticity; my dad and I made =
reasonable efforts to keep our car as original as possible, but I =
insisted on some maintainabilty/drivability mods (K&N air filter, =
Pertronix). I am, slowly, trying to address some of the incorrect things =
(like the LH side windshield post bolt).

On 10/20/2021 8:39 AM, Curtis Arndt wrote:

Hi all,=20

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I am familiar with this car, restored by Forever Healeys in Post Falls =
ID. West coast car that I don't believe as ANYTHING to do with Wayne =
Carini. =20

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I believe that I judged this car Concours Gold several years ago.

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Cheers,

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Curt

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 7:30 AM Bob Spidell <[email-masked] =

I think it's been 'around the horn' a few times; I've seen what appears =
to be the same car--black/red wasn't a common color AFAIK--for sale at a =
couple places over the last few years.

IIRC the 'barn find' Wayne Carini of 'Chasing Classic Cars' brokered for =
a family was black/red; I wonder if it's the same car (IIRC, it went for =
around $200K after a 'mild' resto).

Bob

On 10/20/2021 6:04 AM, Jean Caron wrote:

This factory 100M should bring top dollars, excellent restoration by a =
well know restorer of the marque and unlike the last car that claimed to =
be a 100M on BAT, this one has all the legitimate paperwork to show =
it=E2=80=99s provenance.

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Jean

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Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986>  for =
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Sent: October 20, 2021 7:50 AM
Subject: [Healeys] Bring A Trailer

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A couple items of interest on Bring a Trailer this morning:

10 questions for HealeyRick: =
https://bringatrailer.com/2021/10/19/10-questions-with-healeyrick/ =
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fbring=
atrailer.com%2F2021%2F10%2F19%2F10-questions-with-healeyrick%2F&data=3D04=
%7C01%7C%7C0b736de16dcc4060471408d993c827c9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa=
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4DAgCCErSzfNjcDlkRrZGLrh5xI24eg8364%2Foo%3D&reserved=3D0>=20
1956 100-M no reserve auction: =
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-austin-healey-100m-bn2-roadster-11=
/ =
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fbring=
atrailer.com%2Flisting%2F1956-austin-healey-100m-bn2-roadster-11%2F&data=3D=
04%7C01%7C%7C0b736de16dcc4060471408d993c827c9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaa=
aaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637703310140226425%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4w=
LjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3DZjW=
pMy6uYDXd2M8OTG8egqjhKSAqpmS3a%2FvIQOtAaXA%3D&reserved=3D0>=20

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Cheers,
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Bob Haskell
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>I have some of those clips, generically called =E2=80=98band =
clamps=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 =C2=A0<b>Jubilee</b> clamps are a brand on their =
own, and not the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>Some 40 years ago I visited Stephen Griswold=E2=80=99s =
restoration shop.=C2=A0 They knew them only as =E2=80=98Italian=E2=80=99 =
clips.=C2=A0 But they are more correctly known a <b>Copiglia band =
clamps</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>They are used a lot on Alfa-Romeos but, a Ferrari-owning =
friends tells me, not on Ferraris.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>I have a bunch of them on my shelf.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>The only Hundred I=E2=80=99ve seen them on is Roger =
Moment=E2=80=99s, when I last saw it in 2008 =E2=80=93 photo =
below.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I thought they were fitted only to the early =
BN1s.=C2=A0 Curt: am I correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>Ardmore<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>New Zealand<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Bob Spidell =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 21 October 2021 =
6:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> Curtis Arndt =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Healey List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Bring A =
Trailer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>First cockpit trim piece I've seen with a =
groove; was this an option, or maybe an aftermarket piece (note the =
groove is apparent in the fourth photo on the listing; subsequent photos =
appear to be different)?&nbsp; Here's my M's trim piece; AFAIK this is =
original, verified as 'Registry Certified' by the M Registry* and, of =
course, the BMIHT cert. Interesting this has a recent (September) BMIHT =
cert; looks like they've changed the wording for 'M' confirmation (my =
much earlier cert just implies this is an M car because of the 'louvred' =
bonnet). Beautiful car to be sure.<br><br><span =
style=3D'background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>I have the same =
radiator hose clamps; this is the only other car I've seen with them; =
are they correct? I had a long 'conversation' with Rich Chrysler over =
these, but to this day I'm not sure if we were on the same page. IIRC, =
he called them 'Jubilee clamps,' but I think those are the screw-on =
type. One thing's for sure: they will be a royal PITA if I ever have to =
replace the hoses.</span><br><br>Bob<br><br>* I realize this is not the =
canonical source, but AFAIK it's the most comprehensive database =
available (unfortunately, probably not as reliable as Steve's BJ8 =
database). Bill requires various 'proof' items for 'Registry =
Certification,' like proper stamped numbers on trim pieces, the boot =
prop, etc. and the hand-scribed notations on the carbs and, I think, the =
distributor (though they may be stamped). Note I'm not interested in =
disputing <i>anybody's </i>car's authenticity; my dad and I made =
reasonable efforts to keep our car as original as possible, but I =
insisted on some maintainabilty/drivability mods (K&amp;N air filter, =
Pertronix). I am, slowly, trying to address some of the incorrect things =
(like the LH side windshield post bolt).<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 10/20/2021 8:39 AM, Curtis Arndt =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hi all, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am familiar with this&nbsp;car, restored by Forever Healeys in Post =
Falls ID. West coast car that I don't believe as ANYTHING to do with =
Wayne Carini.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
believe that I judged this car Concours Gold several years =
ago.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Curt<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 7:30 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I think it's been 'around the horn' a few =
times; I've seen what appears to be the same car--black/red wasn't a =
common color AFAIK--for sale at a couple places over the last few =
years.<br><br>IIRC the 'barn find' Wayne Carini of 'Chasing Classic =
Cars' brokered for a family was black/red; I wonder if it's the same car =
(IIRC, it went for around $200K after a 'mild' =
resto).<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 10/20/2021 =
6:04 AM, Jean Caron wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This =
factory 100M should bring top dollars, excellent restoration by a well =
know restorer of the marque and unlike the last car that claimed to be a =
100M on BAT, this one has all the legitimate paperwork to show =
it=E2=80=99s provenance.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jean<o:p></o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from =
<a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" =
target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Bob =
Haskell via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>October 20, 2021 7:50 =
AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">Healey List</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Bring A =
Trailer<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>A couple items of =
interest on Bring a Trailer this morning:<br><br>10 questions for =
HealeyRick: <a =
href=3D"https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%=
2Fbringatrailer.com%2F2021%2F10%2F19%2F10-questions-with-healeyrick%2F&am=
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0" =
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healeyrick/</a><br>1956 100-M no reserve auction: <a =
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