Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ash Tray

From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 08:11:27 -0800

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I can't say definitively, but a) I've never seen a Healey not fitted 
with an ash tray and b) ash trays were installed on all cars, at least 
for the American market, until a decade or so ago; carpet only covering 
the hole would have been awkward. I usually keep a few quarters for 
meter in mine, and sometimes a spare fuse or two.

'Cigar lighters' were, I believe, an option; the replacement harness for 
my BJ8 I bought came with a wire lead (brown) for a cigar lighter which, 
unfortunately I didn't properly insulate and it let some smoke out.

On 11/15/2021 3:26 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for 
> my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box.
>
> Some of you pointed out peculiarities concerning the ash tray fitting.
>
> I’ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be 
> more or less bespoke, I’m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or 
> fibre glass over the square hole.
>
> Did all original tunnel covers come with a hole fitted for ash trays?
>
> And thus some had the ash tray actually fitted and some had the hole 
> carpeted over?
>
> Or what?
>
> Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most 
> cars. Like wire wheels…..
>
> Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare 
> fuses, valve caps and the like….
>
> I’ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other.
>
> Simon
>
>

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    I can't say definitively, but a) I've never seen a Healey not fitted
    with an ash tray and b) ash trays were installed on all cars, at
    least for the American market, until a decade or so ago; carpet only
    covering the hole would have been awkward. I usually keep a few
    quarters for meter in mine, and sometimes a spare fuse or two.<br>
    <br>
    'Cigar lighters' were, I believe, an option; the replacement harness
    for my BJ8 I bought came with a wire lead (brown) for a cigar
    lighter which, unfortunately I didn't properly insulate and it let
    some smoke out.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/2021 3:26 AM, Simon Lachlan
      via Healeys wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">I determined, with your help, that I have
          an original tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre
          change box.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Some of you pointed out peculiarities
          concerning the ash tray fitting. <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I’ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet
          and, as these seem to be more or less bespoke, I’m wondering
          whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square
          hole.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Did all original tunnel covers come with a
          hole fitted for ash trays? <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">And thus some had the ash tray actually
          fitted and some had the hole carpeted over?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Or what?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Was the ash tray an optional extra which,
          in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels…..<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just
          use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like….<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I’ll have to let the carpet people know one
          way or the other.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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I know that Cocker Spaniels are born with long tails and I am sure that
some owners choose not to have their dog's tails docked, but I just don't
think that would look quite right.

Install the ashtray.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 11:11 AM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> I can't say definitively, but a) I've never seen a Healey not fitted with
> an ash tray and b) ash trays were installed on all cars, at least for the
> American market, until a decade or so ago; carpet only covering the hole
> would have been awkward. I usually keep a few quarters for meter in mine,
> and sometimes a spare fuse or two.
>
> I determined, with your help, that I have an original tunnel cover for my
> BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre change box.
>
> I=E2=80=99ll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to b=
e more or
> less bespoke, I=E2=80=99m wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre=
 glass
> over the square hole.
> cars. Like wire wheels=E2=80=A6..
>
> Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses=
,
> valve caps and the like=E2=80=A6.
>
> I=E2=80=99ll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I kno=
w that Cocker Spaniels are born with long tails and I am sure that some own=
ers choose not to have their dog&#39;s tails docked, but I just don&#39;t t=
hink that would look quite right.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3=
333ff">Install the ashtray.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"colo=
r:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">B=
est--Michael Oritt</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff=
"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div>=
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    I can&#39;t say definitively, but a) I&#39;ve never seen a Healey not f=
itted
    with an ash tray and b) ash trays were installed on all cars, at
    least for the American market, until a decade or so ago; carpet only
    covering the hole would have been awkward. I usually keep a few
    quarters for meter in mine, and sometimes a spare fuse or two.<br>
    <br>
    &#39;Cigar lighters&#39; were, I believe, an option; the replacement ha=
rness
    for my BJ8 I bought came with a wire lead (brown) for a cigar
    lighter which, unfortunately I didn&#39;t properly insulate and it let
    some smoke out.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 11/15/2021 3:26 AM, Simon Lachlan
      via Healeys wrote:<br>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I determined, with your help, that I have
          an original tunnel cover for my BT7 MkII. Fibre glass, centre
          change box.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Some of you pointed out peculiarities
          concerning the ash tray fitting. <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ll be getting a new tunnel cover c=
arpet
          and, as these seem to be more or less bespoke, I=E2=80=99m wonder=
ing
          whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over the square
          hole.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Did all original tunnel covers come with a
          hole fitted for ash trays? <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">And thus some had the ash tray actually
          fitted and some had the hole carpeted over?<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Or what?<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Was the ash tray an optional extra which,
          in fact, was fitted to most cars. Like wire wheels=E2=80=A6..<u><=
/u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just
          use the ash tray for spare fuses, valve caps and the like=E2=80=
=A6.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ll have to let the carpet people k=
now one
          way or the other.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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From: Earl Kagna via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 08:56:04 -0800

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Simon - I'm pretty sure that all Healeys had ashtrays from the factory.

At the changeover to the BJ8, the square hole in the center shift gearbox
cover was omitted as the ashtray was now mounted into the console.  In
addition, a couple of studs were molded into the fiberglass for a mounting
bracket for the console.

If you are getting a carpet as part of a kit, the ash tray hole will likely
not be there - they usually leave that to the installer.  Your call as to
whether or not to fill the hole.  Personally I'd keep it - for small stuff
like 'fuses and valve caps'.

Earl Kagna

Victoria BC

BJ8, BT7 tri-carb - (center shift)

 

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan
via Healeys
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 3:27 AM
To: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray

I'll be getting a new tunnel cover carpet and, as these seem to be more or
less bespoke, I'm wondering whether to keep the ash tray or fibre glass over
the square hole.

Or what?

Was the ash tray an optional extra which, in fact, was fitted to most cars.
Like wire wheels...

Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I just use the ash tray for spare fuses,
valve caps and the like..

I'll have to let the carpet people know one way or the other.

Simon

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1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Simon &#8211; I&#8217;m pretty sure that all Healeys=
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sp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>At the changeover to the BJ8, the square =
hole in the center shift gearbox cover was omitted as the ashtray was now m=
ounted into the console.&nbsp; In addition, a couple of studs were molded i=
nto the fiberglass for a mounting bracket for the console.<o:p></o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If you are get=
ting a carpet as part of a kit, the ash tray hole will likely not be there =
&#8211; they usually leave that to the installer.&nbsp; Your call as to whe=
ther or not to fill the hole.&nbsp; Personally I&#8217;d keep it &#8211; fo=
r small stuff like &#8216;fuses and valve caps&#8217;.<o:p></o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DFR>Earl Kagna<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DFR>Victoria BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb &#8211; (center shift)<o:p></o:p></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:=
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one;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On B=
ehalf Of </b>Simon Lachlan via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 15,=
 2021 3:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>=
Subject:</b> [Healeys] Ash Tray<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I determin=
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SimonAnother reference document that helps answer questions such as which m=
odels of the Austin Healey used an ash tray would be the Concours Guideline=
s available from several sources.=C2=A0A quick look at the score sheets for=
 each model will show which ones had a point deduction for a missing an ash=
 tray. While not perfect the guidelines are very reliable.Perry=C2=A0

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From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Nov 15, 2021 6:26 am
Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray

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<div>Another reference document that helps answer questions such as which m=
odels of the Austin Healey used an ash tray would be the Concours Guideline=
s available from several sources.&nbsp;</div>

<div>A quick look at the score sheets for each model will show which ones h=
ad a point deduction for a missing an ash tray. While not perfect the guide=
lines are very reliable.</div>

<div>Perry&nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>

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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Nov 15, 2021 6:26 am<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Ash Tray<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv1511354247MsoNormal">I determined, with your help, that I =
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<div class=3D"yiv1511354247MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ll be getting a new tunnel =
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<div class=3D"yiv1511354247MsoNormal">Did all original tunnel covers come w=
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<div class=3D"yiv1511354247MsoNormal">And thus some had the ash tray actual=
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<div class=3D"yiv1511354247MsoNormal">Or what?</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1511354247MsoNormal">Was the ash tray an optional extra wh=
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<div class=3D"yiv1511354247MsoNormal">Nobody will ever smoke in my car. I j=
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<div class=3D"yiv1511354247MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ll have to let the carpet p=
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<div class=3D"yiv1511354247MsoNormal">Simon</div>

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