Subject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes

From: warthodson--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 00:55:21 +0000 (UTC)

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I will be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his 100 front=
 brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the ends that thre=
ad into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of the mating surface in the s=
lave. The ends of the hoses are flat & it is my understanding that the cyl.=
 is cone shaped inside. The vender says this is not a problem. I think it i=
s a problem.What do you say?=C2=A0Also, if it is an issue, where can we get=
 a set of flex hoses that have the correct ends for this application & are =
also the correct length (I.E. Not too short)?Gary Hodson
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<div style="color:black;font: 12pt Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;">I will be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his 100 front brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the ends that thread into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of the mating surface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are flat &amp; it is my understanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside. The vender says this is not a problem. I think it is a problem.
<div>What do you say?&nbsp;</div>

<div>Also, if it is an issue, where can we get a set of flex hoses that have the correct ends for this application &amp; are also the correct length (I.E. Not too short)?</div>

<div>Gary Hodson<br>

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From: Hank Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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Do you mean "wheel" cylinders and not "slave"...100s have a mechanical=
=0Aclutch. I understand that on all model Healeys the brake hoses have=
=0Aone threaded end and one flared end. That flare goes into the metal=
=0Aline nut.=0AOn the early 100 wheel cylinders they used an American AF=
 thread but=0Aswitched over to the Girling unified thread on later relea=
ses. The=0Ableeder connection can be either in or out in shape (photo) b=
ut if the=0Ableed screw is flat it uses the check ball (supplied in rebu=
ild kits)=0Aand fits the recessed shape. The pointed bleeder uses no che=
ck ball.=0ABe sure that you were supplied the correct threaded hose...mo=
st=0Asuppliers do not have the early style. Use Girling red grease on th=
e=0Athreads. Hank=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From:=
 "warthodson--- via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: "[email-masked]"=0ACc: =0A=
Sent: Friday February 24 2023 5:15:16PM=0ASubject: [Healeys] 100 front b=
rakes=0A=0A I will be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses o=
n his 100=0Afront brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, bu=
t the ends=0Athat thread into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of th=
e mating=0Asurface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are flat & it is=
 my=0Aunderstanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside. The vender says=
=0Athis is not a problem. I think it is a problem. What do you say? =0AA=
lso, if it is an issue, where can we get a set of flex hoses that=0Ahave=
 the correct ends for this application & are also the correct=0Alength (=
I.E. Not too short)? Gary Hodson=0A

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<html><body>Do you mean "wheel" cylinders and not "slave"...100s have a=
 mechanical clutch. I understand that on all model Healeys the brake hos=
es have one threaded end and one flared end. That flare goes into the me=
tal line nut.<div><br></div><div>On the early 100 wheel cylinders they u=
sed an American AF thread but switched over to the Girling unified threa=
d on later releases. The bleeder connection can be either in or out in s=
hape (photo) but if the bleed screw is flat it uses the check ball (supp=
lied in rebuild kits) and fits the recessed shape. The pointed bleeder u=
ses no check ball.&nbsp; Be sure that you were supplied the correct thre=
aded hose...most suppliers do not have the early style. Use Girling red=
 grease on the threads. Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"><=
/div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "warthodson--=
- via Healeys" <[email-masked]><br>To: "[email-masked]"<=
br>Cc: <br>Sent: Friday February 24 2023 5:15:16PM<br>Subject: [Healeys]=
 100 front brakes<br><br>=0A<div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12pt 'Comic=
 Sans MS', sans-serif;">I=0Awill be assisting a friend to replace the fl=
exible hoses on his 100=0Afront brakes. He has ordered and received a se=
t of hoses, but the=0Aends that thread into the slave Cyl do not match t=
he shape of the=0Amating surface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are=
 flat &amp; it is=0Amy understanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside=
. The vender=0Asays this is not a problem. I think it is a problem.=0A<d=
iv>What do you say?&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Also, if it is an issue, where ca=
n we get a set of flex hoses=0Athat have the correct ends for this appli=
cation &amp; are also the=0Acorrect length (I.E. Not too short)?</div>=
=0A<div>Gary Hodson<br><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</hea=
[email-masked]></div></body></html>

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From: Hank Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 01:37:44 +0000 gFfFz9RN3nzgEG8hApdDDqxMfayhINf5gc0p00STEXeLti8mzVjwi+U1tLhTzk4PjtALRt3G43nONk0GGiu6v0jbTbHwbCnHedPNWLCVHvbD0vRYBcwgS4au

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Bill-correct, these are cylinders that I had sleeved by Apple for the=0A=
rear of the 100 (with handbrake mechanism) They in fact questioned why=
=0Athere were two different type of receiver "ports" for the same item.=
=0AYes, they receive steel lines. The flex line is at the three way=0Aco=
nnector. Every supplier for current hoses show one flat end and one=0Afl=
ared end for use in ALL Healeys. The flare going into the flare nut=0Aof=
 the steel line. Copper washers are then used at the "flat "end into=0At=
he wheel cylinder.. Hank=0A=0A=09---------------------------------------=
--From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" =0ATo: "Hank Leach via Healeys", "warthodso=
[email-masked]", "Hank Leach"=0ACc: =0ASent: Saturday February 25 2023 1:12:5=
6PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes=0A=0A    Correction as I n=
otice the cylinders shown appear to be double=0Aended, they would probab=
ly be used on the rear brakes and the=0A=E2=80=9Cinee=E2=80=9D and =E2=
=80=9Coutee=E2=80=9D ports would be the supply ports for the=0Asolid tub=
es from the three way fitting on the axle housing. Both of=0Athe other p=
orts would be bleeders.  =0A  Bill Lawrence =0A-------------------------=
=0AFROM: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE =0ASENT: Saturday, February 25, 2023 9:04 PM=
=0ATO: Hank Leach via Healeys ; [email-masked]' ; Hank Leach =0ASUB=
JECT: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes     The Girling brakes=0Acylinders=
 I have dealt with use a copper washer to seal to the supply=0Aport. The=
y didn=E2=80=99t use any type of flare. The =E2=80=9Cinee=E2=80=9D and=
=0A=E2=80=9Coutee=E2=80=9D ports on the cylinders shown were made to mat=
ch a bubble=0Aflare or a double flare solid line respectively. These are=
 the=0Atransfer ports between the double cylinders on the Girling dual=
=0Aleading shoe braking system used on the front of the 100 and 100-6.=
=0AThe transfer pipes currently available use double flares on both ends=
=0Aso the bubble flare port may not be compatible. The The ports that ar=
e=0Aangled are the correct ports for the supply hoses (upper) and bleede=
r=0Ascrews (lower). The hoses screw into the upper angled port and seal=
=0Awith copper washers. The bleeder screws as noted may use a tapered=0A=
sealing surface or a flat surface with a round indentation and a small=
=0Asteel ball. =0A Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 =0A=0A------------------------=
-=0AFROM: Healeys  on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys =0ASENT: Saturday=
, February 25, 2023 6:59 PM=0ATO: [email-masked]' =0ACC: 'healeys@a=
utox.team.net' =0ASUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes    Do you mean=
 "wheel"=0Acylinders and not "slave"...100s have a mechanical clutch. I=
=0Aunderstand that on all model Healeys the brake hoses have one threade=
d=0Aend and one flared end. That flare goes into the metal line nut. =0A=
 On the early 100 wheel cylinders they used an American AF thread but=0A=
switched over to the Girling unified thread on later releases. The=0Able=
eder connection can be either in or out in shape (photo) but if the=0Abl=
eed screw is flat it uses the check ball (supplied in rebuild kits)=0Aan=
d fits the recessed shape. The pointed bleeder uses no check ball.=0ABe=
 sure that you were supplied the correct threaded hose...most=0Asupplier=
s do not have the early style. Use Girling red grease on the=0Athreads.=
 Hank=0A=0A=09----------------------------------------- From: "warthodso=
n--- via=0AHealeys"=0A To: "[email-masked]"=0A Cc:=0A Sent: Frid=
ay February 24 2023 5:15:16PM=0A Subject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes=0A=
=0AI will be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his 100=
=0Afront brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the end=
s=0Athat thread into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of the mating=
=0Asurface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are flat & it is my=0Aund=
erstanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside. The vender says=0Athis i=
s not a problem. I think it is a problem. What do you say? =0AAlso, if i=
t is an issue, where can we get a set of flex hoses that=0Ahave the corr=
ect ends for this application & are also the correct=0Alength (I.E. Not=
 too short)? Gary Hodson=0A

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<html><body>Bill-correct, these are cylinders that I had sleeved by Appl=
e for the rear of the 100 (with handbrake mechanism) They in fact questi=
oned why there were two different type of receiver "ports" for the same=
 item. Yes, they receive steel lines.&nbsp; The flex line is at the thre=
e way connector. Every supplier for current hoses show one flat end and=
 one flared end for use in ALL Healeys. The flare going into the flare n=
ut of the steel line. Copper washers are then used at the "flat "end int=
o the wheel cylinder.. Hank<div><br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signatur=
e"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "WILLIAM=
 B LAWRENCE" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Hank Leach via Healeys", "warthod=
[email-masked]", "Hank Leach"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Saturday February 25 2023 1:=
12:56PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br><br>=0A<div style=
=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;background-color=
:transparent;">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:i=
nherit;color:inherit;background-color:transparent;">=0ACorrection as I n=
otice the cylinders shown appear to be double=0Aended, they would probab=
ly be used on the rear brakes and the=0A=E2=80=9Cinee=E2=80=9D and =E2=
=80=9Coutee=E2=80=9D ports would be the supply ports for the solid=0Atub=
es from the three way fitting on the axle housing. Both of the=0Aother p=
orts would be bleeders.</div>=0A<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-s=
ize:inherit;color:inherit;background-color:transparent;">=0A<br></div>=
=0A<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;bac=
kground-color:transparent;">=0ABill Lawrence</div>=0A<hr style=3D"width:=
98%;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-=
size:11pt;" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> WILLIAM B=0ALAWRENCE &lt;ynot=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 25, 2023 9:04 PM<br><=
b>To:</b> Hank Leach via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;;=0A'wart=
[email-masked]' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Hank Leach=0A&lt;gradea1@cha=
rter.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes</font>=0A=
<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div>The Girling brakes cylinders I=
 have dealt with use a copper=0Awasher to seal to the supply port. They=
 didn=E2=80=99t use any type of=0Aflare. The =E2=80=9Cinee=E2=80=9D and=
 =E2=80=9Coutee=E2=80=9D ports on the cylinders shown were=0Amade to mat=
ch a bubble flare or a double flare solid line=0Arespectively. These are=
 the transfer ports between the double=0Acylinders on the Girling dual l=
eading shoe braking system used on=0Athe front of the 100 and 100-6. The=
 transfer pipes currently=0Aavailable use double flares on both ends so=
 the bubble flare port=0Amay not be compatible. The The ports that are a=
ngled are the=0Acorrect ports for the supply hoses (upper) and bleeder s=
crews=0A(lower). The hoses screw into the upper angled port and seal wit=
h=0Acopper washers. The bleeder screws as noted may use a tapered=0Aseal=
ing surface or a flat surface with a round indentation and a=0Asmall ste=
el ball.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Bill Lawrence</div>=0A<div>BN1 #=
554</div>=0A<br><hr style=3D"width:98%;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"=
Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt;"><b>From=
:</b> Healeys=0A&lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Hank=
 Leach via=0AHealeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Satu=
rday, February 25, 2023 6:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]' &lt;w=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]'=0A&lt;heale=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<=
/font>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>Do you mean "wheel" cylinders=
 and not "slave"...100s have a=0Amechanical clutch. I understand that on=
 all model Healeys the brake=0Ahoses have one threaded end and one flare=
d end. That flare goes=0Ainto the metal line nut.=0A<div><br></div>=0A<d=
iv>On the early 100 wheel cylinders they used an American AF=0Athread bu=
t switched over to the Girling unified thread on later=0Areleases. The b=
leeder connection can be either in or out in shape=0A(photo) but if the=
 bleed screw is flat it uses the check ball=0A(supplied in rebuild kits)=
 and fits the recessed shape. The pointed=0Ableeder uses no check ball.&=
nbsp; Be sure that you were supplied=0Athe correct threaded hose...most=
 suppliers do not have the early=0Astyle. Use Girling red grease on the=
 threads. Hank<br><br><div class=3D"x_x_reply-new-signature"></div>=0A<p=
>-----------------------------------------</p>=0AFrom: "warthodson--- vi=
a Healeys"<br>=0ATo: "[email-masked]"<br>=0ACc:<br>=0ASent: Frid=
ay February 24 2023 5:15:16PM<br>=0ASubject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<=
br><br><div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12pt 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif=
;">I=0Awill be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his 1=
00=0Afront brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the=
=0Aends that thread into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of the=0Am=
ating surface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are flat &amp; it is=
=0Amy understanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside. The vender=0Asa=
ys this is not a problem. I think it is a problem.=0A<div>What do you sa=
y?&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Also, if it is an issue, where can we get a set of=
 flex hoses=0Athat have the correct ends for this application &amp; are=
 also the=0Acorrect length (I.E. Not too short)?</div>=0A<div>Gary Hodso=
n<br><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div=
>=0A</[email-masked]></div></body></html>

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From: Hank Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 01:49:23 +0000 NM8c0pmekUmPuQdzJnS3Ob04JzMbLocKxkYqTzyo06/9MZkKx/VTNxGRvdW63aCotAW9G5DQRAdlJlZTrJq8W3EE2rGcPl+4w/M=

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Gary- The note about the type of thread used was what I was referring=0A=
to-mentioned earlier. The early BN1 used AF type threads.(equivalent=0At=
o a 1949 Chevrolet). All the later cars (and I do not know where the=0Ac=
hangeover was-maybe Michael does) had unified Girling threads. The=0Alin=
es should thread easily or else you have a different thread count=0Aand=
 pitch. I don't think you will find the early type hoses from any=0Asupp=
lier. They will have to be special made or found in NOS. Hank=0A=0A=09--=
---------------------------------------From: [email-masked]=0ATo: "g=
[email-masked]"=0ACc: "[email-masked]"=0ASent: Saturday Febr=
uary 25 2023 1:24:04PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes=0A=0A =
 This car is a BN1. Yes, I was referring to the brake wheel cylinders=0A=
or slave cylinders as opposed to the master cylinder. What are you=0Aref=
erring to when you say "Be sure that you were supplied the correct=0Athr=
eaded hose...most suppliers do not have the early style." How do I=0Aide=
ntify an early style hose from a latter style hose?=0A Gary Hodson=0A=0A=
 -----Original Message-----=0A From: Hank Leach =0A To: 'warthodson@aol.=
com' =0A Cc: [email-masked]' =0A Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2023 12:59=
 pm=0A Subject: RE: [Healeys] 100 front brakes=0A=0A  Do you mean "wheel=
" cylinders and not "slave"...100s have a=0Amechanical clutch. I underst=
and that on all model Healeys the brake=0Ahoses have one threaded end an=
d one flared end. That flare goes into=0Athe metal line nut. =0A On the=
 early 100 wheel cylinders they used an American AF thread but=0Aswitche=
d over to the Girling unified thread on later releases. The=0Ableeder co=
nnection can be either in or out in shape (photo) but if the=0Ableed scr=
ew is flat it uses the check ball (supplied in rebuild kits)=0Aand fits=
 the recessed shape. The pointed bleeder uses no check ball.=0ABe sure t=
hat you were supplied the correct threaded hose...most=0Asuppliers do no=
t have the early style. Use Girling red grease on the=0Athreads. Hank=0A=
=0A   ----------------------------------------- From: "warthodson--- via=
=0AHealeys"=0A To: "[email-masked]"=0A Cc:=0A Sent: Friday Febru=
ary 24 2023 5:15:16PM=0A Subject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes=0A=0A  I wi=
ll be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his=0A100 fron=
t brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the=0Aends tha=
t thread into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of the=0Amating surfa=
ce in the slave. The ends of the hoses are flat & it is my=0Aunderstandi=
ng that the cyl. is cone shaped inside. The vender says=0Athis is not a=
 problem. I think it is a problem. What do you say? =0AAlso, if it is an=
 issue, where can we get a set of flex hoses that=0Ahave the correct end=
s for this application & are also the correct=0Alength (I.E. Not too sho=
rt)? Gary Hodson=0A

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<html><body>Gary- The note about the type of thread used was what I was=
 referring to-mentioned earlier. The early BN1 used AF type threads.(equ=
ivalent to a 1949 Chevrolet). All the later cars (and I do not know wher=
e the changeover was-maybe Michael does) had unified Girling threads. Th=
e lines should thread easily or else you have a different thread count a=
nd pitch. I don't think you will find the early type hoses from any supp=
lier. They will have to be special made or found in NOS. Hank<br><br><di=
v class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>-------------------------------=
----------</p>From: [email-masked]<br>To: "[email-masked]"<br>C=
c: "[email-masked]"<br>Sent: Saturday February 25 2023 1:24:04PM=
<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br><br>=0A<div style=3D"colo=
r:#000000;font:12pt 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif;">=0A<div>This car is a=
 BN1.</div>=0AYes, I was referring to the brake wheel cylinders or slave=
=0Acylinders as opposed to the master cylinder.=0A<div>What are you refe=
rring to when you say&nbsp; "<span style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica=
;font-size:small;">Be sure that you=0Awere supplied the correct threaded=
 hose...most suppliers do not=0Ahave the early style."</span></div>=0A<d=
iv><font size=3D"3">How do I identify an early style hose from a=0Alatte=
r style hose?</font><br>=0AGary Hodson<br><br><div style=3D"font-family:=
arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;">=0A<font size=3D"2">----=
-Original Message-----<br>=0AFrom: Hank Leach &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br>=0ATo: [email-masked]' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>=0ACc: 'h=
[email-masked]' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>=0ASent: Sat, F=
eb 25, 2023 12:59 pm<br>=0ASubject: RE: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br><b=
r></font>=0A<div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">Do you mean "wheel" cylinders=
 and not=0A"slave"...100s have a mechanical clutch. I understand that on=
 all=0Amodel Healeys the brake hoses have one threaded end and one flare=
d=0Aend. That flare goes into the metal line nut.</font>=0A<div><font si=
ze=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">On the=
 early 100 wheel cylinders they used an=0AAmerican AF thread but switche=
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
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It's a bit more complicated than that.
There is actually no such thread as an AF thread. AF refers to Across the
Flats and is measurement across the hexagonal nut and denotes the spanner
(wrench) size.
i.e. a 5/16" UNF bolt is 1/2" AF.
There was a change made in the name of the thread form early in BN1
production from SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) some say (Standard
American Engineers but are wrong) to UNF (Unified National Fine). SAE
actually refers to the "Family" of threads which includes UNC and UNF.
These threads have a thread angle of 60 degrees.  The "F" and "C" refer to
the pitch or threads per inch.
For the most part the threads used on the brake lines of Healeys are 3/8" x
24. 3/8" diameter and 24 threads per inch.
Whitworth refers to a different and older "family " of threads which have a
55 degree thread angle.
I should mention that there were also some differences in the shapes used
at the bases and peaks of these different thread forms which Google can
help you with if you haven't already fallen asleep.
Hope that doesn't serve to further muddy the waters.

M

On Sun., Feb. 26, 2023, 3:26 p.m. Hank Leach via Healeys, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Gary- The note about the type of thread used was what I was referring
> to-mentioned earlier. The early BN1 used AF type threads.(equivalent to a
> 1949 Chevrolet). All the later cars (and I do not know where the changeover
> was-maybe Michael does) had unified Girling threads. The lines should
> thread easily or else you have a different thread count and pitch. I don't
> think you will find the early type hoses from any supplier. They will have
> to be special made or found in NOS. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: [email-masked]
> To: "[email-masked]"
> Cc: "[email-masked]"
> Sent: Saturday February 25 2023 1:24:04PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes
>
> This car is a BN1.
> Yes, I was referring to the brake wheel cylinders or slave cylinders as
> opposed to the master cylinder.
> What are you referring to when you say  "Be sure that you were supplied
> the correct threaded hose...most suppliers do not have the early style."
> How do I identify an early style hose from a latter style hose?
> Gary Hodson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hank Leach <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]' <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]' <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2023 12:59 pm
> Subject: RE: [Healeys] 100 front brakes
>
> Do you mean "wheel" cylinders and not "slave"...100s have a mechanical
> clutch. I understand that on all model Healeys the brake hoses have one
> threaded end and one flared end. That flare goes into the metal line nut.
>
> On the early 100 wheel cylinders they used an American AF thread but
> switched over to the Girling unified thread on later releases. The bleeder
> connection can be either in or out in shape (photo) but if the bleed screw
> is flat it uses the check ball (supplied in rebuild kits) and fits the
> recessed shape. The pointed bleeder uses no check ball.  Be sure that you
> were supplied the correct threaded hose...most suppliers do not have the
> early style. Use Girling red grease on the threads. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "warthodson--- via Healeys"
> To: "[email-masked]"
> Cc:
> Sent: Friday February 24 2023 5:15:16PM
> Subject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes
>
> I will be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his 100
> front brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the ends that
> thread into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of the mating surface in
> the slave. The ends of the hoses are flat & it is my understanding that the
> cyl. is cone shaped inside. The vender says this is not a problem. I think
> it is a problem.
> What do you say?
> Also, if it is an issue, where can we get a set of flex hoses that have
> the correct ends for this application & are also the correct length (I.E.
> Not too short)?
> Gary Hodson
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">It&#39;s a bit more complicated than th=
at.<div dir=3D"auto">There is actually no such thread as an AF thread. AF r=
efers to Across the Flats and is measurement across the hexagonal nut and d=
enotes the spanner (wrench) size.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">i.e. a 5/16&=
quot; UNF bolt is 1/2&quot; AF.</div><div dir=3D"auto">There was a change m=
ade in the name of the thread form early in BN1 production from SAE (Societ=
y of Automotive Engineers) some say (Standard American Engineers but are wr=
ong) to UNF (Unified National Fine). SAE actually refers to the &quot;Famil=
y&quot; of threads which includes UNC and UNF. These threads have a thread =
angle of 60 degrees.=C2=A0 The &quot;F&quot; and &quot;C&quot; refer to the=
 pitch or threads per inch.</div><div dir=3D"auto">For the most part the th=
reads used on the brake lines of Healeys are 3/8&quot; x 24. 3/8&quot; diam=
eter and 24 threads per inch.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Whitworth refers=
 to a different and older &quot;family &quot; of threads which have a 55 de=
gree thread angle.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">I should mention that there=
 were also some differences in the shapes used at the bases and peaks of th=
ese different thread forms which Google can help you with if you haven&#39;=
t already fallen asleep.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Hope that doesn&#39;t serve=
 to further muddy the waters.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Sun., Feb. 26, 2023, 3:26 p.m. Hank Leach via Healeys, &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div>Gary- The note about the type of thread used was what I was ref=
erring to-mentioned earlier. The early BN1 used AF type threads.(equivalent=
 to a 1949 Chevrolet). All the later cars (and I do not know where the chan=
geover was-maybe Michael does) had unified Girling threads. The lines shoul=
d thread easily or else you have a different thread count and pitch. I don&=
#39;t think you will find the early type hoses from any supplier. They will=
 have to be special made or found in NOS. Hank<br><br><div></div><p>-------=
----------------------------------</p>From: <a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@ao=
l.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a><br>To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&quot;<br>Cc: &quot;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&quot;<br>Sent: Saturday February 25 =
2023 1:24:04PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br><br>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12pt &#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;,sans-serif">
<div>This car is a BN1.</div>
Yes, I was referring to the brake wheel cylinders or slave
cylinders as opposed to the master cylinder.
<div>What are you referring to when you say=C2=A0 &quot;<span style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:small">Be sure that you
were supplied the correct threaded hose...most suppliers do not
have the early style.&quot;</span></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">How do I identify an early style hose from a
latter style hose?</font><br>
Gary Hodson<br><br><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt=
;color:#000000">
<font size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Hank Leach &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferr=
er noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:warth=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">warthodson@a=
ol.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2023 12:59 pm<br>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br><br></font>
<div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Do you mean &quot;wheel&quot; cylinders and not
&quot;slave&quot;...100s have a mechanical clutch. I understand that on all
model Healeys the brake hoses have one threaded end and one flared
end. That flare goes into the metal line nut.</font>
<div><font size=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">On the early 100 wheel cylinders they used an
American AF thread but switched over to the Girling unified thread
on later releases. The bleeder connection can be either in or out
in shape (photo) but if the bleed screw is flat it uses the check
ball (supplied in rebuild kits) and fits the recessed shape. The
pointed bleeder uses no check ball.=C2=A0 Be sure that you were
supplied the correct threaded hose...most suppliers do not have the
early style. Use Girling red grease on the threads. Hank<br clear=3D"none">=
<br clear=3D"none"></font>
<div></div>
<div>
<div><font size=3D"2">-----------------------------------------</font></div=
<font size=3D"2">From: &quot;warthodson--- via Healeys&quot;<br clear=3D"no=
ne">
To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&quot;<br clear=3D"none"=
Cc:<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Friday February 24 2023 5:15:16PM<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></=
font>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12pt &#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;,sans-serif">
<font size=3D"2">I will be assisting a friend to replace the flexible
hoses on his 100 front brakes. He has ordered and received a set of
hoses, but the ends that thread into the slave Cyl do not match the
shape of the mating surface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are
flat &amp; it is my understanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside.
The vender says this is not a problem. I think it is a
problem.</font>
<div><font size=3D"2">What do you say?=C2=A0</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Also, if it is an issue, where can we get a set
of flex hoses that have the correct ends for this application &amp; are
also the correct length (I.E. Not too short)?</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Gary Hodson<br clear=3D"none"></font>
<div><font size=3D"2">=C2=A0=C2=A0</font></div>
</div>
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<html><body>Don't mean to be vague-old age. There is a lot on the web ab=
out hydraulic fittings and I should have been more specific-its <b>ANF</=
b> (American National Fine) but the AF(SB: AN) relates the hose sizes to=
 SAE dimensions. The point I was trying to make is that there were two d=
ifferent fittings, and they are not compatible or interchangeable due to=
 thread pitch and spacing. Hopes this helps clarify early hydraulics. Ha=
nk<div><br></div><div><h2 style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-family:=
 Roboto, sans-serif; line-height: 1.1; color: rgb(84, 84, 84); margin-to=
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=3D"box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(84, 84, 84); font-family: Roboto,=
 sans-serif; font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">AN=
 fittings range in size from -2 (dash two) to -32 in irregular steps tha=
t each equates to the outer diameter of the tubing. The outer diameter o=
f the tube or hose that each fitting is to be used for is correlated wit=
h the inner diameter of the fitting itself.</div><span style=3D"color: r=
gb(84, 84, 84); font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; backgr=
ound-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The table below lists the size specific=
ations of AN fittings ranging from dash-two to dash-thirty-two, along wi=
th the corresponding SAE thread sizes.</span><br style=3D"box-sizing: bo=
rder-box; color: rgb(84, 84, 84); font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-=
size: 14px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style=3D"box-siz=
ing: border-box; color: rgb(84, 84, 84); font-family: Roboto, sans-serif=
; font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: cen=
ter;"><img src=3D"https://www.titanfittings.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images=
/Table%20for%20AN%20article.jpg" title=3D"AN Size chart" alt=3D"Table sh=
owing AN size, Hose inner diameter divided by Tube outer diameter, and S=
AE Thread Size" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; border: none !important=
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</div><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>------------------=
-----------------------</p>From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]=
om><br>To: "Hank Leach"<br>Cc: "[email-masked]"<br>Sent: Saturda=
y February 25 2023 9:49:03PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<=
br><br>=0A<div>=0A<div>It's a bit more complicated than that.=0A<div>The=
re is actually no such thread as an AF thread.=0AAF refers to Across the=
 Flats and is measurement across the=0Ahexagonal nut and denotes the spa=
nner (wrench) size.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>i.e. a 5/16" UNF bolt is 1/2" AF.=
</div>=0A<div>There was a change made in the name of the thread=0Aform e=
arly in BN1 production from SAE (Society of Automotive=0AEngineers) some=
 say (Standard American Engineers but are wrong) to=0AUNF (Unified Natio=
nal Fine). SAE actually refers to the "Family" of=0Athreads which includ=
es UNC and UNF. These threads have a thread=0Aangle of 60 degrees.&nbsp;=
 The "F" and "C" refer to the pitch or=0Athreads per inch.</div>=0A<div>=
For the most part the threads used on the brake=0Alines of Healeys are 3=
/8" x 24. 3/8" diameter and 24 threads per=0Ainch.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Wh=
itworth refers to a different and older "family "=0Aof threads which hav=
e a 55 degree thread angle.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>I should mention that the=
re were also some=0Adifferences in the shapes used at the bases and peak=
s of these=0Adifferent thread forms which Google can help you with if yo=
u=0Ahaven't already fallen asleep.</div>=0A<div>Hope that doesn't serve=
 to further muddy the=0Awaters.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>M</div>=
=0A</div>=0A<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Sun., Feb. 26, 2023, 3:26 p.m.=0AHank Leach via Healeys,=
 &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex;">=0A<div>Gary- The note about the type of thread=
 used was what I was=0Areferring to-mentioned earlier. The early BN1 use=
d AF type=0Athreads.(equivalent to a 1949 Chevrolet). All the later cars=
 (and I=0Ado not know where the changeover was-maybe Michael does) had=
=0Aunified Girling threads. The lines should thread easily or else you=
=0Ahave a different thread count and pitch. I don't think you will=0Afin=
d the early type hoses from any supplier. They will have to be=0Aspecial=
 made or found in NOS. Hank<br><br><p>----------------------------------=
-------</p>=0AFrom: <a>[email-masked]</a><br>=0ATo: "<a>gradea1@char=
ter.net</a>"<br>=0ACc: "<a>[email-masked]</a>"<br>=0ASent: Satur=
day February 25 2023 1:24:04PM<br>=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front br=
akes<br><br><div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12pt 'Comic Sans MS', sans-=
serif;">=0A<div>This car is a BN1.</div>=0AYes, I was referring to the b=
rake wheel cylinders or slave=0Acylinders as opposed to the master cylin=
der.=0A<div>What are you referring to when you say&nbsp; "<span style=3D=
"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:small;">Be sure that you were=0A=
supplied the correct threaded hose...most suppliers do not have the=0Aea=
rly style."</span></div>=0A<div><font size=3D"3">How do I identify an ea=
rly style hose from a=0Alatter style hose?</font><br>=0AGary Hodson<br><=
br><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:#0000=
00;">=0A<font size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>=0AFrom: Hank Lea=
ch &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=0ATo: '<a>[email-masked]</=
a>'=0A&lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=0ACc: '<a>[email-masked]=
.net</a>'=0A&lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=0ASent: Sat, Feb 2=
5, 2023 12:59 pm<br>=0ASubject: RE: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br><br></=
font>=0A<div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">Do you mean "wheel" cylinders and=
 not=0A"slave"...100s have a mechanical clutch. I understand that on all=
=0Amodel Healeys the brake hoses have one threaded end and one flared=0A=
end. That flare goes into the metal line nut.</font>=0A<div><font size=
=3D"2"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">On the e=
arly 100 wheel cylinders they used an=0AAmerican AF thread but switched=
 over to the Girling unified thread=0Aon later releases. The bleeder con=
nection can be either in or out=0Ain shape (photo) but if the bleed scre=
w is flat it uses the check=0Aball (supplied in rebuild kits) and fits t=
he recessed shape. The=0Apointed bleeder uses no check ball.&nbsp; Be su=
re that you were=0Asupplied the correct threaded hose...most suppliers d=
o not have the=0Aearly style. Use Girling red grease on the threads. Han=
k<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></font>=0A<div>=0A<div><font size=
=3D"2">-----------------------------------------</font></div>=0A<font si=
ze=3D"2">From: "warthodson--- via Healeys"<br clear=3D"none">=0ATo: "<a>=
[email-masked]</a>"<br clear=3D"none">=0ACc:<br clear=3D"none">=
=0ASent: Friday February 24 2023 5:15:16PM<br clear=3D"none">=0ASubject:=
 [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></font>=
=0A<div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12pt 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif;">=
=0A<font size=3D"2">I will be assisting a friend to replace the flexible=
=0Ahoses on his 100 front brakes. He has ordered and received a set of=
=0Ahoses, but the ends that thread into the slave Cyl do not match the=
=0Ashape of the mating surface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are=
=0Aflat &amp; it is my understanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside=
.=0AThe vender says this is not a problem. I think it is a=0Aproblem.</f=
ont>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">What do you say?&nbsp;</font></div>=0A<div>=
<font size=3D"2">Also, if it is an issue, where can we get a set=0Aof fl=
ex hoses that have the correct ends for this application &amp; are=0Aals=
o the correct length (I.E. Not too short)?</font></div>=0A<div><font siz=
e=3D"2">Gary Hodson<br clear=3D"none"></font>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;</font></div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<=
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