Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick - Westport Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672

From: warthodson--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 13:05:46 +0000 (UTC)

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 I have an original tank strap from a '64 Phase 1 BJ8 & an early BN1. The p=
acking material is .125" thick on both.=C2=A0Gary H
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:47:55 AM CDT, Hank Leach <gradea1@ch=
arter.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Might depend on the car involved.=C2=A0 At chassis 151608-151610 the petro=
l tank straps and packing were modified. Knowing Moss, they always opt for =
the later release and ignore the early cars. The photo of the packing is wa=
y too thick.=C2=A0 The length of the straps may be longer as well. The earl=
y tanks were a two piece assembly, then later a one piece. Cinching down th=
e bolts under the boot floor would shorten the straps until you run out of =
threads. Packing under the tank will also affect the assembly. Hank

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From: "warthodson--- via Healeys"=20
To: "[email-masked]"
Cc: "[email-masked]"
Sent: Wednesday August 2 2023 8:03:59AM
Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick - Westport Vintag=
e Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672

I=C2=A0 recently ordered a setof gas tank hold down straps from Moss motors=
. They are wellconstructed with 1 exception. The "strap pad" (packing) thic=
knessis .25" vs .125" original thickness based upon several old straps Ihav=
e. Not only is their strapping twice as thick, it also is 2layers of .125" =
material. See attached Moss photo. This means thatthe steel straps sit twic=
e as high off of the gas tank. See Mossphoto of an MGA tank. Apparently, th=
e Moss vendor made them to theMoss specification. It is the specification t=
hat is in error.Am I correct that the packingmaterial should be .125" thick=
? Were MGA strap pads thicker thanHealeys?Has anyone run into this since201=
0?Gary Hodson=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0----- Forwarded Message -----From: Tech <[email-masked]>To:=
 "[email-masked]"<[email-masked]>Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1=
1:29:19 AM CDTSubject: Fwd: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick -Westport Vi=
ntage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672
Please take a look at ticket=C2=A0#132027=C2=A0raised by Stu Bowman(bowmans=
@mossmotors.com).Hello,=E2=80=8B=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The strap padthickness of just under 0.25=E2=80=9D matches ou=
r 2010 drawingspecifications and has been produced to those specifications =
forthirteen years now. We have not found the straps to cause aninstallation=
 issue during that time.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 I have attached a photoof the prototype strap that preceded our =
specification changes onthis part number. Please note the strap is in a ful=
ly installedstate when this photo was taken.
With regards,

=C2=A0Ken =C2=A0 Hyndman
=E2=80=8B
=C2=A0Tech =C2=A0Services (Mon - Thurs. 10am =E2=80=93 3.45 pm PST )
=C2=A0Moss Motors, LTD.=C2=A0
=C2=A0800-667-7872 ext 7252
[email-masked]

On Fri,14 Jul at 6:12 AM ,Stu Bowman <[email-masked]> wrote:=C2=A0=
=C2=A0MOSS MOTORS TECHNICAL SUPPORTREQUEST=C2=A0TECHNICAL/PRODUCTISSUE. IF =
UPHOLSTERY ISSUE PLEASE INCLUDE JUP#:=C2=A0WHATEXACTLY IS THE ISSUE? ......=
.........:gastanks strap, the packing on it , is too thickSeepic=E2=80=99s=
=C2=A0Pleasecall custom er advise of proper size packing on stripTROUBLESHO=
OT/ RESOLUTION=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..:Part#:................=
.......: 853-810 gastank stripMoss Inv#:..........................: 5-61626=
72MossManufactured upholstery JUP#.............................:Has partbee=
n installed? =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6..:CUSTOMERINFO:Customer#.........................: 7-755606Con=
tactName:..................: waestportvintage restorationsPhone:...........=
......................:913-441-8335EmailAddress:....................: warth=
[email-masked]:Year=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6:allModel=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6:ahyANYTHINGSPECIAL ABOUT THE CAR/ENGINE?.....:PHOTOS OFPROBLEM:=C2=
=A0=C2=A0MossTechnical Services Action Taken:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
From:Warthodson <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 4:19 PM
To: Stu Bowman <[email-masked]>
Subject: 853-310=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp3ccc2649yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I have an original tank stra=
p from a '64 Phase 1 BJ8 &amp; an early BN1. The packing material is .125" =
thick on both.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Gary H</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>
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                    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:47:55 AM CDT, Hank L=
each &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908"><div>Might depend=
 on the car involved.&nbsp; At chassis 151608-151610 the petrol tank straps=
 and packing were modified. Knowing Moss, they always opt for the later rel=
ease and ignore the early cars. The photo of the packing is way too thick.&=
nbsp; The length of the straps may be longer as well. The early tanks were =
a two piece assembly, then later a one piece. Cinching down the bolts under=
 the boot floor would shorten the straps until you run out of threads. Pack=
ing under the tank will also affect the assembly. Hank<br><br><div class=3D=
"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908reply-new-signature"></div><p>--------------------=
---------------------</p>From: "warthodson--- via Healeys" <br>To: "healeys=
@autox.team.net"<br>Cc: "[email-masked]"<br>Sent: Wednesday Augus=
t 2 2023 8:03:59AM<br>Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too t=
hick - Westport Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672<br><br>
<div style=3D"font-family:'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif;font-size:16px;" clas=
s=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydp1b284ebeyahoo-style-wrap">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I&nbsp; recently ordered a set
of gas tank hold down straps from Moss motors. They are well
constructed with 1 exception. The "strap pad" (packing) thickness
is .25" vs .125" original thickness based upon several old straps I
have. Not only is their strapping twice as thick, it also is 2
layers of .125" material. See attached Moss photo. This means that
the steel straps sit twice as high off of the gas tank. See Moss
photo of an MGA tank. Apparently, the Moss vendor made them to the
Moss specification. It is the specification that is in error.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Am I correct that the packing
material should be .125" thick? Were MGA strap pads thicker than
Healeys?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Has anyone run into this since
2010?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
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nt-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
<div>----- Forwarded Message -----</div>
<div><b>From:</b> Tech &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</div>
<div><b>To:</b> "[email-masked]"
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:29:19 AM CDT</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick -
Westport Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
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Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">
<div style=3D"font-family:'-apple-system', BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', =
Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><span>Please take a look at ticket&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"https://moss=
motorshelp.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/132027" style=3D"background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255);" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">#132027</a><span>&nb=
sp;raised by Stu Bowman
([email-masked]).</span></div>
<div><span dir=3D"ltr">Hello,</span></div>
<div><span dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=8B<span style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:'=
Segoe UI', sans-serif;" dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The strap pad
thickness of just under 0.25=E2=80=9D matches our 2010 drawing
specifications and has been produced to those specifications for
thirteen years now. We have not found the straps to cause an
installation issue during that time.&nbsp;</span></span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:15px;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;">&nbsp; &=
nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I have attached a photo
of the prototype strap that preceded our specification changes on
this part number. Please note the strap is in a fully installed
state when this photo was taken.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><a><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;f=
ont-size:10pt;" dir=3D"ltr">With regards,<br><br>
&nbsp;Ken &nbsp; Hyndman<br>
=E2=80=8B<br>
&nbsp;Tech &nbsp;Services (Mon - Thurs. 10am =E2=80=93 3.45 pm PST )<br>
&nbsp;Moss Motors, LTD.</span></a><span><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)=
;">&nbsp;</span></span><span><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-famil=
y:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><br>

&nbsp;800-667-7872 ext 7252<br></span></span><a title=3D"mailto:hyndmank@mo=
ssmotors.com"><span><span style=3D"color:rgb(5,99,193);font-family:Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt;">[email-masked]</span></span></a></div>
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<blockquote class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833freshd=
esk_quote">On Fri,
14 Jul at 6:12 AM <span class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089=
997833separator">,
Stu Bowman &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</span>
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Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833WordSection1"=
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or">&nbsp;</span></div>
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02339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833separator"><b><u><span style=3D"font-size:1=
2pt;">MOSS MOTORS TECHNICAL SUPPORT
REQUEST</span></u></b></span></div>
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;" class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2=
102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;f=
ont-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:#FF0000;">TECHNICAL/PRODUCT
ISSUE. IF UPHOLSTERY ISSUE PLEASE INCLUDE JUP#:</span></div>
<div align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;" class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2=
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<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">WHAT
EXACTLY IS THE ISSUE?</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Boo=
kman Old Style', serif;">...............:gas
tanks strap, the packing on it , is too thick</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">See
pic=E2=80=99s</span></div>
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div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Please
call custom er advise of proper size packing on strip</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">TROUBL=
ESHOOT
/ RESOLUTION=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..:</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Part
#:.......................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:'Times New Roman', serif;">853-810 gas
tank strip</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Moss I=
nv
#:..........................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:'Times New Roman', serif;">5-6162672</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Moss
Manufactured upholstery JUP
#.............................:</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Has pa=
rt
been installed? =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6..:</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;color:#F=
F0000;">CUSTOMER
INFO:</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Custom=
er
#.........................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:'Times New Roman', serif;">7-755606</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Contac=
t
Name:..................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'=
Times New Roman', serif;">waestport
vintage restorations</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Phone:=
.................................:</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">913-44=
1-8335</span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Email
Address:....................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:'Times New Roman', serif;"><a>[email-masked]</a></span></div>
<div class=3D"ydp82dd1069yiv2102339908ydpc886ddddyiv4089997833MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;color:#F=
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INFO:</span></div>
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pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Year=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6:</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">all</s=
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pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">Model=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6:</span>
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pan></div>
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pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">ANYTHI=
NG
SPECIAL ABOUT THE CAR/ENGINE?.....:</span></div>
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pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">PHOTOS O=
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PROBLEM:</span></div>
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pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;">&nbsp;=
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pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'Bookman Old Style', serif;color:#F=
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>From:</b>
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23 4:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Stu Bowman &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Su=
bject:</b> 853-310</div>
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I would completely agree with Gary. I've seen many, many original Healeys
of all models and ALL had gas tank strap padding of "around" 0.125"
thickness.
The only variation that I'm aware of is that the early BN1 pads and rivets
were positioned differently on the metal straps.
M

On Thu., Aug. 3, 2023, 9:33 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> I have an original tank strap from a '64 Phase 1 BJ8 & an early BN1. The
> packing material is .125" thick on both.
> Gary H
>
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:47:55 AM CDT, Hank Leach <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Might depend on the car involved.  At chassis 151608-151610 the petrol
> tank straps and packing were modified. Knowing Moss, they always opt for
> the later release and ignore the early cars. The photo of the packing is
> way too thick.  The length of the straps may be longer as well. The early
> tanks were a two piece assembly, then later a one piece. Cinching down th=
e
> bolts under the boot floor would shorten the straps until you run out of
> From: "warthodson--- via Healeys"
> Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick - Westport
> Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672
>
> I  recently ordered a set of gas tank hold down straps from Moss motors.
> They are well constructed with 1 exception. The "strap pad" (packing)
> thickness is .25" vs .125" original thickness based upon several old stra=
ps
> I have. Not only is their strapping twice as thick, it also is 2 layers o=
f
> .125" material. See attached Moss photo. This means that the steel straps
> sit twice as high off of the gas tank. See Moss photo of an MGA tank.
> Apparently, the Moss vendor made them to the Moss specification. It is th=
e
> specification that is in error.
> Am I correct that the packing material should be .125" thick? Were MGA
> strap pads thicker than Healeys?
> Has anyone run into this since 2010?
> Gary Hodson
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> *From:* Tech <[email-masked]>
> *To:* "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:29:19 AM CDT
> *Subject:* Fwd: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick - Westport Vintage
> Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672
>
> Please take a look at ticket #132027
> <https://mossmotorshelp.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/132027> raised by
> Stu Bowman ([email-masked]).
> Hello,
> =E2=80=8B                The strap pad thickness of just under 0.25=E2=80=
=9D matches our
> 2010 drawing specifications and has been produced to those specifications
> for thirteen years now. We have not found the straps to cause an
> installation issue during that time.
>                 I have attached a photo of the prototype strap that
> preceded our specification changes on this part number. Please note the
> strap is in a fully installed state when this photo was taken.
>
> With regards,
>
>  Ken   Hyndman
> =E2=80=8B
>  Tech  Services (Mon - Thurs. 10am =E2=80=93 3.45 pm PST )
>  Moss Motors, LTD.
>  800-667-7872 ext 7252
> [email-masked]
>
> On Fri, 14 Jul at 6:12 AM , Stu Bowman <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> *MOSS MOTORS TECHNICAL SUPPORT REQUEST*
>
> TECHNICAL/PRODUCT ISSUE. IF UPHOLSTERY ISSUE PLEASE INCLUDE JUP#:
>
> WHAT EXACTLY IS THE ISSUE? ...............:gas tanks strap, the packing
> on it , is too thick
> See pic=E2=80=99s
>
> Please call custom er advise of proper size packing on strip
> TROUBLESHOOT / RESOLUTION=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..:
> Part #:.......................: 853-810 gas tank strip
> Moss Inv #:..........................: 5-6162672
> Moss Manufactured upholstery JUP #.............................:
> Has part been installed? =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..:
> CUSTOMER INFO:
> Customer #.........................: 7-755606
> Contact Name:..................: waestport vintage restorations
> Phone:.................................: 913-441-8335
> Email Address:....................: [email-masked]
> CAR INFO:
> Year=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6: all
> Model=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6: ahy
> ANYTHING SPECIAL ABOUT THE CAR/ENGINE?.....:
> PHOTOS OF PROBLEM:
>
> Moss Technical Services Action Taken:
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Warthodson <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 4:19 PM
> *To:* Stu Bowman <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* 853-310
>
>
>
>
>
> 132027:1089000
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<div dir=3D"auto">I would completely agree with Gary. I&#39;ve seen many, m=
any original Healeys of all models and ALL had gas tank strap padding of &q=
uot;around&quot; 0.125&quot; thickness.<div dir=3D"auto">The only variation=
 that I&#39;m aware of is that the early BN1 pads and rivets were positione=
d differently on the metal straps.</div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu., A=
ug. 3, 2023, 9:33 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hea=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-s=
erif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I have an original tank strap from a &#39;64 Phase=
 1 BJ8 &amp; an early BN1. The packing material is .125&quot; thick on both=
.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Gary H</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"m_-5935451874003912828ydp82dd1069yahoo_quoted_2034=
388046">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:47:55 AM CDT, Hank L=
each &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
referrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_-5935451874003912828ydp82dd1069yiv2102339=
908"><div>Might depend on the car involved.=C2=A0 At chassis 151608-151610 =
the petrol tank straps and packing were modified. Knowing Moss, they always=
 opt for the later release and ignore the early cars. The photo of the pack=
ing is way too thick.=C2=A0 The length of the straps may be longer as well.=
 The early tanks were a two piece assembly, then later a one piece. Cinchin=
g down the bolts under the boot floor would shorten the straps until you ru=
n out of threads. Packing under the tank will also affect the assembly. Han=
k<br><br><div></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: &=
quot;warthodson--- via Healeys&quot; <br>To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
et</a>&quot;<br>Cc: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&quot;<br>Sent:=
 Wednesday August 2 2023 8:03:59AM<br>Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 851-310 Gas Ta=
nk Strap - Too thick - Westport Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672<b=
r><br>
<div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:16px=
">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I=C2=A0 recently ordered a set
of gas tank hold down straps from Moss motors. They are well
constructed with 1 exception. The &quot;strap pad&quot; (packing) thickness
is .25&quot; vs .125&quot; original thickness based upon several old straps=
 I
have. Not only is their strapping twice as thick, it also is 2
layers of .125&quot; material. See attached Moss photo. This means that
the steel straps sit twice as high off of the gas tank. See Moss
photo of an MGA tank. Apparently, the Moss vendor made them to the
Moss specification. It is the specification that is in error.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Am I correct that the packing
material should be .125&quot; thick? Were MGA strap pads thicker than
Healeys?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Has anyone run into this since
2010?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-ser=
if;font-size:13px;color:#26282a">
<div>----- Forwarded Message -----</div>
<div><b>From:</b> Tech &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div><b>To:</b> &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&quot;
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:29:19 AM CDT</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: 851-310 Gas Tank Strap - Too thick -
Westport Vintage Restorations 7-553606 - 5-6162672</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&#39;-apple-system&#39;,BlinkMacSystemFont,&#39;S=
egoe UI&#39;,Roboto,&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14p=
x">
<div style=3D"font-family:&#39;-apple-system&#39;,BlinkMacSystemFont,&#39;S=
egoe UI&#39;,Roboto,&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14p=
x">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><span>Please take a look at ticket=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"https://moss=
motorshelp.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/132027" style=3D"background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255)" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">#132027</a=
><span>=C2=A0raised by Stu Bowman
(<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">[email-masked]</a>).</span></div>
<div><span dir=3D"ltr">Hello,</span></div>
<div><span dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=8B<span style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:&=
#39;Segoe UI&#39;,sans-serif" dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The strap pad
thickness of just under 0.25=E2=80=9D matches our 2010 drawing
specifications and has been produced to those specifications for
thirteen years now. We have not found the straps to cause an
installation issue during that time.=C2=A0</span></span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:15px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:&#39;Segoe UI&#39;,sans-serif">=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I have attached a photo
of the prototype strap that preceded our specification changes on
this part number. Please note the strap is in a fully installed
state when this photo was taken.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><a rel=3D"noreferrer"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt" dir=3D"ltr">With regards,<br><br>
=C2=A0Ken =C2=A0 Hyndman<br>
=E2=80=8B<br>
=C2=A0Tech =C2=A0Services (Mon - Thurs. 10am =E2=80=93 3.45 pm PST )<br>
=C2=A0Moss Motors, LTD.</span></a><span><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)=
">=C2=A0</span></span><span><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br>

=C2=A0800-667-7872 ext 7252<br></span></span><a title=3D"mailto:hyndmank@mo=
ssmotors.com" rel=3D"noreferrer"><span><span style=3D"color:rgb(5,99,193);f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">[email-masked]</span><=
/span></a></div>
<br></div>
<div>
<blockquote>On Fri,
14 Jul at 6:12 AM <span>,
Stu Bowman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<div style=3D"font-family:&#39;-apple-system&#39;,BlinkMacSystemFont,&#39;S=
egoe UI&#39;,Roboto,&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14p=
x">
<div>
<div></div>
<div><span>=C2=A0</span></div>
<div></div>
<div><span>=C2=A0</span></div>
<div align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span><b><u><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt">MOSS MOTORS TECHNICAL SUPPORT
REQUEST</span></u></b></span></div>
<div align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif;color:#ff0000">TECHNICAL/P=
RODUCT
ISSUE. IF UPHOLSTERY ISSUE PLEASE INCLUDE JUP#:</span></div>
<div align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">WHAT
EXACTLY IS THE ISSUE?</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39=
;Bookman Old Style&#39;,serif">...............:gas
tanks strap, the packing on it , is too thick</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">See
pic=E2=80=99s</span></div>
<div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Please
call custom er advise of proper size packing on strip</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">TROUBLESHOOT
/ RESOLUTION=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Part
#:.......................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">853-810 gas
tank strip</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Moss Inv
#:..........................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">5-6162672</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Moss
Manufactured upholstery JUP
#.............................:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Has part
been installed? =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6..:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif;color:#ff0000">CUSTOMER
INFO:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Customer
#.........................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">7-755606</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Contact
Name:..................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&=
#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">waestport
vintage restorations</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Phone:.................................:</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=
913-441-8335</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Email
Address:....................:</span> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><a rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
om</a></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif;color:#ff0000">CAR
INFO:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Year=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6:</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=
all</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">Model=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6:</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=
ahy</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">ANYTHING
SPECIAL ABOUT THE CAR/ENGINE?.....:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,se=
rif">PHOTOS OF
PROBLEM:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif">=C2=A0</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,serif=
">=C2=A0</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Bookman Old Style&#39;,=
serif;color:#ff0000">Moss
Technical Services Action Taken:</span></div>
<div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in =
0in">
<div><b>From:</b>
Warthodson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 1=
3, 2023 4:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Stu Bowman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bowmans@moss=
motors.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> 853-310</div>
</div>
</div>
<div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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