Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 227

From: wdavid890dd--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 20:23:50 +0000 (UTC)

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Start the car with the bonnet open put a blanket over on top of the bonnet =
and block all the light, look for arcing around the wires=C2=A0=C2=A0and di=
stributer. Easy check good luck.=C2=A0
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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 1. Re: update on shutdown issue (Kees Oudesluijs)
=C2=A0 2. Re: update on shutdown issue (Michael Salter)
=C2=A0 3. Re: update on shutdown issue (jomar healey)
=C2=A0 4. Re: update on shutdown issue (Robert Markovich)
=C2=A0 5. Re: update on shutdown issue (Robert Markovich)
=C2=A0 6. Re: update on shutdown issue (Robert Markovich)
=C2=A0 7. Re: update on shutdown issue (Tom Felts)
=C2=A0 8. Re: update on shutdown issue (Robert Markovich)
=C2=A0 9. Re: update on shutdown issue (Jonathan Einhorn)
 =20
Is it a gradual or instat shut down?
 Kees
=20
 Op 20-9-2023 om 17:39 schreef Bob Spidell:
 =20
 re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, t=
hey have been full of gas."
=20
 Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and SS,=
 do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank that =
intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 and exp=
erienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked it down t=
o a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmis=
ed the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (th=
e tank was otherwise in good shape).
=20
 bs
=20
=20
 On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
 =20
   Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ig=
nition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the th=
e two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for lo=
ng periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able t=
o check spark.=C2=A0=20
  When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again=
 then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
  I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without be=
ing able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=20
  Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a =
fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok=
 there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets wer=
e stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down--=
-but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this s=
eems like an unlikely condition.=20
  If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of th=
e overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps =
normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of=
 gas.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown-=
-----so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark  =20
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 I've had problem Tom.Traced it to ignition by installing a spark tester (p=
hoto) semi permanently. When the engine stopped, left the ignition on lifte=
d the bonnet and cranked with the solenoid button.. no spark.=C2=A0After po=
uring cold water over the coil it immediately restarted.However... pretty s=
ure you have changed the coil. =E2=98=B9=EF=B8=8F
M

On Wed., Sep. 20, 2023, 10:59 a.m. Tom Felts via Healeys, <[email-masked]=
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 Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the igni=
tion system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the =
two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long=
 periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to =
check spark.=C2=A0
When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again t=
hen shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without bein=
g able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0
Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a fu=
el supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok t=
here--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets were =
stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down---b=
ut---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this see=
ms like an unlikely condition.
If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have=
 already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps no=
rmally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of g=
as.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------=
so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark ______________________________________=
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 I'm late to this but I aaume the wire in the distributor is not frayed. =
=C2=A0I had this on my BJ8 and whenver the vacuum advanced activate it caus=
ed the wire to short on the plate and the negined died. =C2=A0If this has b=
een covered I apologize.
Joe#923
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 03:37:13 PM EDT, Alan Garrison via He=
aleys <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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Before you go out on a test run I suggest you purchase a can of =E2=80=9CDr=
y-Gas=E2=80=9D. =C2=A0If the car shuts down again then add the Dry-Gas and =
drive on to see if the problem re-occurs.

 =C2=A0

The problem may be water in the gas tank either from condensation or from t=
he underground fuel tanks at your gas station. This has happened to me a fe=
w times over the past 50+ years of ownership with the same symptoms you des=
cribed.

 =C2=A0

Good luck!

 =C2=A0

Alan

=E2=80=9859 BN6

 =C2=A0

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tom Felts via H=
ealeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:50 AM
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

 =C2=A0

Continued----I will next take her out on the road--and if she shut down on =
me again I'll try to get a quick spark test.=C2=A0 Other than what I've don=
e, not sure what happens next if she shuts down and I have spark.=C2=A0 The=
re is an auto-electric place near me--might consider taking here there.

Tom

 =C2=A0

From: "Tom Felts" <[email-masked]>
To: "healeys" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:46:07 AM
Subject: update on shutdown issue

 =C2=A0

Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ignit=
ion system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the t=
wo pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long =
periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to c=
heck spark.=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again t=
hen shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without bein=
g able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a fu=
el supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok t=
here--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets were =
stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down---b=
ut---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this see=
ms like an unlikely condition.

 =C2=A0

If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have=
 already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps no=
rmally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of g=
as.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0

=C2=A0

in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I men=
tioned, I can't ch spark

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  Couple more thoughts: 1) There=E2=80=99s a thin black braided ground=C2=
=A0wire beneath the condenser inside the distributor=C2=A0if that and the=
=C2=A0points are still in place. If the distributor is the stock Lucas unit=
, even with Pertronix,=C2=A0that wire may still exist; worth checking for f=
rayed ends. Result:=C2=A0the car runs fine, then stalls as heat and electri=
cal resistance build. Then the car will restart and run fine=E2=80=94for a =
few minutes=E2=80=94until the same thing happens again. This happened to me=
 until I found the frayed wire. 2) The=C2=A0distributor isn=E2=80=99t advan=
cing properly due to broken advance springs or some other issue. 3) The fue=
l pump isn=E2=80=99t delivering enough fuel and/or the filter is clogged. A=
ll of these are easy to check=C2=A0=E2=80=A6

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 3:14 PM, Jim Ryan <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

I'm a little confused. The car will start and run an idle seemingly forever=
. But if you start it up and drive it, it dies? Or are you just getting int=
o it and revving the engine a bit and it dies?
Sorry Tom, if I missed something, I think I read the whole thread..=C2=A0
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 11:03 AM Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

 Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the igni=
tion system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the =
two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long=
 periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to =
check spark.=C2=A0
When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again t=
hen shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without bein=
g able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0
Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a fu=
el supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok t=
here--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets were =
stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down---b=
ut---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this see=
ms like an unlikely condition.
If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have=
 already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps no=
rmally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of g=
as.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------=
so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark ______________________________________=
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Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll=C2=A0flo=
ats solve that issue. If=C2=A0not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a=C2=A03-ohm coil=C2=A0(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.=C2=
=A0

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

 re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, t=
hey have been full of gas."
=20
 Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and SS,=
 do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank that =
intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 and exp=
erienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked it down t=
o a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmis=
ed the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (th=
e tank was otherwise in good shape).
=20
 bs
=20
=20
 On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
 =20
=20
  Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ign=
ition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the=
 two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for lon=
g periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to=
 check spark.=C2=A0=20
  When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again=
 then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
  I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without be=
ing able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=20
  Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a =
fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok=
 there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets wer=
e stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down--=
-but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this s=
eems like an unlikely condition.=20
  If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of th=
e overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps =
normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of=
 gas.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown-=
-----so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark  =20
=20
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Again, this sounds like a bad ground wire connection=C2=A0in the distributo=
r (you have to pull the condenser to see it=E2=80=94and I=E2=80=99d=C2=A0ch=
ange condenser=C2=A0out while you=E2=80=99re at it). The same exact thing h=
appened to me on the 100/6 I owned some years ago and I tried all the same =
things as I thought it was in the fuel system (don=E2=80=99t we all!). Fina=
lly I happened to pull the condenser on the roadside and saw that little bl=
ack ground=C2=A0wire hanging on by a few strands. After going through the e=
ntire fuel system! Same exact symptoms. Crimping=C2=A0on a new connector an=
d battening the wire down solved the problem instantly. A buildup of heat a=
nd electrical resistance compromising that bad ground wire connection=C2=A0=
explains why the car will run fine, then stall, restart after a few minutes=
 as things cool, then crap out again as heat and resistance build again.=C2=
=A0

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 11:24 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys <healeys@=
autox.team.net> wrote:

 Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the igni=
tion system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the =
two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long=
 periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to =
check spark.=C2=A0
When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again t=
hen shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without bein=
g able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0
Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a fu=
el supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok t=
here--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets were =
stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down---b=
ut---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this see=
ms like an unlikely condition.
If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have=
 already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps no=
rmally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of g=
as.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------=
so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark ______________________________________=
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I'm using the new floats, have a new 3ohm coil, and have changed the Pertro=
nix to a new one.=C2=A0 This is crazy----but after my last attempt by clean=
ing and oiling the baseplate of the distributor, she has sat at idle for a =
loooooong tie and has not shut down.=C2=A0 I'm still shooting in the dark, =
I'll admit, and if she shuts down again I'll do a quick spark test.
Tom
From: "Robert Markovich via Healeys" <[email-masked]>
To: "Bob Spidell" <[email-masked]>, "healeys" <[email-masked]=
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 5:41:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll=C2=A0flo=
ats solve that issue. If=C2=A0not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a=C2=A03-ohm coil=C2=A0(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.=C2=
=A0

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

 re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, t=
hey have been full of gas."
=20
 Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and SS,=
 do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank that =
intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 and exp=
erienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked it down t=
o a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmis=
ed the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (th=
e tank was otherwise in good shape).
=20
 bs
=20
=20
 On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
 =20
=20
  Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ign=
ition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the=
 two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for lon=
g periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to=
 check spark.=C2=A0=20
  When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again=
 then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
  I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without be=
ing able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=20
  Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a =
fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok=
 there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets wer=
e stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down--=
-but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this s=
eems like an unlikely condition.=20
  If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of th=
e overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps =
normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of=
 gas.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown-=
-----so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark  =20
=20
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If the engine starts and=C2=A0idles nicely=E2=80=94and there=E2=80=99s a ni=
ce fat spark at the plugs=E2=80=94but won=E2=80=99t rev, it sounds like a=
=C2=A0distributor advance sping(s) is broken or faulty in some other way. M=
ight consider rebuilding or replacing the distributor (I=E2=80=99d choose a=
 Mallory dual point over the Pertronix dist, and=C2=A0Pertronix makes a=C2=
=A0module for that as well).=C2=A0If the car runs well but conks out on the=
 road=C2=A0after it warms up, then restarts and repeats, it=E2=80=99s that =
stupid little ground wire inside. Someone else mentioned a blocked gas cap =
breather, which is also quite easy to check. Rust in the gas tank? Could ca=
use the engine to run well and then stop, which is a good reason to use a c=
lear fuel filter.=C2=A0But this really sounds like a dist problem =E2=80=A6

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023, 6:05 AM, Tom Felts <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

I'm using the new floats, have a new 3ohm coil, and have changed the Pertro=
nix to a new one.=C2=A0 This is crazy----but after my last attempt by clean=
ing and oiling the baseplate of the distributor, she has sat at idle for a =
loooooong tie and has not shut down.=C2=A0 I'm still shooting in the dark, =
I'll admit, and if she shuts down again I'll do a quick spark test.
Tom
From: "Robert Markovich via Healeys" <[email-masked]>
To: "Bob Spidell" <[email-masked]>, "healeys" <[email-masked]=
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 5:41:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll=C2=A0flo=
ats solve that issue. If=C2=A0not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a=C2=A03-ohm coil=C2=A0(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.=C2=
=A0

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t> wrote:

 re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, t=
hey have been full of gas."
=20
 Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and SS,=
 do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank that =
intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 and exp=
erienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked it down t=
o a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmis=
ed the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (th=
e tank was otherwise in good shape).
=20
 bs
=20
=20
 On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
 =20
=20
  Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ign=
ition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the=
 two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for lon=
g periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to=
 check spark.=C2=A0=20
  When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again=
 then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
  I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without be=
ing able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=20
  Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a =
fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok=
 there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets wer=
e stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down--=
-but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this s=
eems like an unlikely condition.=20
  If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of th=
e overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps =
normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of=
 gas.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown-=
-----so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark  =20
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Did you try bypassing the cutoff switch in the trunk? That solved a similar=
 problem for me
Jon=C2=A0
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:31 PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:

Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll=C2=A0flo=
ats solve that issue. If=C2=A0not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a=C2=A03-ohm coil=C2=A0(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.=C2=
=A0

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

 re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, t=
hey have been full of gas."
=20
 Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and SS,=
 do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank that =
intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 and exp=
erienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked it down t=
o a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmis=
ed the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (th=
e tank was otherwise in good shape).
=20
 bs
=20
=20
 On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
 =20
=20
  Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ign=
ition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the=
 two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for lon=
g periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to=
 check spark.=C2=A0=20
  When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again=
 then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
  I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without be=
ing able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=20
  Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a =
fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok=
 there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets wer=
e stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down--=
-but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this s=
eems like an unlikely condition.=20
  If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of th=
e overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps =
normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of=
 gas.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown-=
-----so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark  =20
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    <p>Is it a gradual or instat shut down?<br>
      Kees<br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"yiv9029299035moz-cite-prefix">Op 20-9-2023 om 17:39 schre=
ef Bob
      Spidell:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
      caps, they have been full of gas."<br>
      <br>
      Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
      and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something
      in the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a
      used tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the
      engine; my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near
      where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux
      used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the
      tank was otherwise in good shape).<br>
      <br>
      bs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"yiv9029299035moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom=
 Felts via
        Healeys wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type=3D"cite">

       =20
        <div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12=
pt;color:#000000;">
          <div>
           =20
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all
              connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
              base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were
              very tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long
              periods of time and she has not shut down again so I
              haven't been able to check spark.&nbsp;</div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;"><br>
            </div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long
              before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start=
,
              then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;"><br>
            </div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;">I know my trial and error method wasn't the best
              approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
              appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;"><br>
            </div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I
              thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled
              the float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled
              and cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuc=
k
              in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually
              shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb
              wouldn't get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition=
.</div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;"><br>
            </div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;">If they were stock in the open position it would
              be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
              unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already chang=
ed
              fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps
              normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they
              have been full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out
              fuel starvation as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;">&nbsp;</div>
            <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no
              shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div>
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em Tom.<div>Traced it to ignition by installing a spark tester (photo) semi=
 permanently. When the engine stopped, left the ignition on lifted the bonn=
et and cranked with the solenoid button.. no spark.&nbsp;</div><div>After p=
ouring cold water over the coil it immediately restarted.</div><div>However=
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0, 2023, 10:59 a.m. Tom Felts via Healeys, &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys=
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el=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
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font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;tex=
t-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:=
initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">Since having the car towed home I h=
ave checked all connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor =
base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very tight.&nbsp; I =
have let her run in the garage for long periods of time and she has not shu=
t down again so I haven't been able to check spark.&nbsp;</div><div style=
=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;f=
ont-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text=
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0;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal=
;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-deco=
ration-color:initial;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before =
she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, then shut down.&nbs=
p;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, san=
s-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:nor=
mal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px=
;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-siz=
e:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:=
0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration=
-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">I know my trial and error me=
thod wasn't the best approach, but without being able to check spark it see=
med appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"co=
lor:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-st=
yle:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-trans=
form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial=
;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font=
-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-=
weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-=
space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration=
-color:initial;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I thought=
 it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled the float bowl covers=
 and all was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the floa=
t bowl jets were stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventua=
lly shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get ga=
s.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div><div style=3D"color:#0=
00000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:no=
rmal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:n=
one;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-=
decoration-color:initial;"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-famil=
y:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight=
:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color=
:initial;">If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas =
out of the overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.&n=
bsp; I have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pu=
mp pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have bee=
n full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a ca=
use.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvet=
ica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spa=
cing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spa=
cing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">&nbs=
p;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">in the garage she =
sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">I'm late to this but I aaume the wire in the distr=
ibutor is not frayed. &nbsp;I had this on my BJ8 and whenver the vacuum adv=
anced activate it caused the wire to short on the plate and the negined die=
d. &nbsp;If this has been covered I apologize.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
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                    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 03:37:13 PM EDT, Alan=
 Garrison via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv9029299035WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv902=
9299035MsoNormal">Before you go out on a test run I suggest you purchase a =
can of =E2=80=9CDry-Gas=E2=80=9D. &nbsp;If the car shuts down again then ad=
d the Dry-Gas and drive on to see if the problem re-occurs.</p><p class=3D"=
yiv9029299035MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal">The =
problem may be water in the gas tank either from condensation or from the u=
nderground fuel tanks at your gas station. This has happened to me a few ti=
mes over the past 50+ years of ownership with the same symptoms you describ=
ed.</p><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv902929=
9035MsoNormal">Good luck!</p><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p=
><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal">Alan</p><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNo=
rmal">=E2=80=9859 BN6</p><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><di=
v id=3D"yiv9029299035yqt44491" class=3D"yiv9029299035yqt6117852730"><div><d=
iv style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0i=
n 0in;"><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healey=
[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Felts via Healeys<br c=
lear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:50 AM<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>To:</b> healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue</p></div></div><p=
 class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"yiv90292=
99035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;colo=
r:black;">Continued----I will next take her out on the road--and if she shu=
t down on me again I'll try to get a quick spark test.&nbsp; Other than wha=
t I've done, not sure what happens next if she shuts down and I have spark.=
&nbsp; There is an auto-electric place near me--might consider taking here =
there.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Tom</span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt=
;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div align=3D=
"center" style=3D"text-align:center;" class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"></span><hr=
 align=3D"center" id=3D"yiv9029299035zwchr" size=3D"2" width=3D"100%"></div=
><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">From: </span></b><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">"Tom Felts" &lt;<a shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:tomfelt=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">tomfelts@wi=
ndstream.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b>"healeys" &lt;<a shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 20, 2023=
 10:46:07 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>update on shutdown issue</sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><di=
v><div><div><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Since having the car towed h=
ome I have checked all connections in the ignition system, pulled the distr=
ibutor base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very tight.&n=
bsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods of time and she has =
not shut down again so I haven't been able to check spark.&nbsp;</span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;color:black;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long befor=
e she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, then shut down.&n=
bsp;&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">I know my trial and error met=
hod wasn't the best approach, but without being able to check spark it seem=
ed appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv90=
29299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;c=
olor:black;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I thought it =
might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled the float bowl covers and=
 all was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bo=
wl jets were stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually =
shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.&n=
bsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:san=
s-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv902929903=
5MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:bl=
ack;">If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out o=
f the overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; =
I have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pu=
mps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been ful=
l of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.&=
nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">in the garage she sits and pu=
rrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</spa=
n></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"yiv9029299035MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></d=
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Couple more thoughts: 1) There=E2=80=99s a thin black braided ground&nbsp;w=
ire beneath the condenser inside the distributor&nbsp;if that and the&nbsp;=
points are still in place. If the distributor is the stock Lucas unit, even=
 with Pertronix,&nbsp;that wire may still exist; worth checking for frayed =
ends. Result:&nbsp;the car runs fine, then stalls as heat and electrical re=
sistance build. Then the car will restart and run fine=E2=80=94for a few mi=
nutes=E2=80=94until the same thing happens again. This happened to me until=
 I found the frayed wire. 2) The&nbsp;distributor isn=E2=80=99t advancing p=
roperly due to broken advance springs or some other issue. 3) The fuel pump=
 isn=E2=80=99t delivering enough fuel and/or the filter is clogged. All of =
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hoo-quoted-begin">On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 3:14 PM, Jim Ryan &lt;r=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"yiv9029299035iosymail"><=
div id=3D"yiv9029299035"><div><div>I'm a little confused. The car will star=
t and run an idle seemingly forever. But if you start it up and drive it, i=
t dies? Or are you just getting into it and revving the engine a bit and it=
 dies?<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Sorry Tom, if I missed something, =
I think I read the whole thread..&nbsp;</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div =
class=3D"yiv9029299035gmail_quote"><div id=3D"yiv9029299035yqt79431" class=
=3D"yiv9029299035yqt3671139406"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv9029299035gmai=
l_attr">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 11:03 AM Tom Felts via Healeys &lt;<a shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">healeys@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv9029=
299035gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div> <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-f=
amily:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-we=
ight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-sp=
ace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-c=
olor:initial;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all connectio=
ns in the ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleane=
d it--the the two pieces were very tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the g=
arage for long periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't=
 been able to check spark.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-fami=
ly:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space=
:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-colo=
r:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-famil=
y:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight=
:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color=
:initial;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would st=
art again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</di=
v><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font=
-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decora=
tion-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-=
size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-inde=
nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decorat=
ion-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">I know my trial and error=
 method wasn't the best approach, but without being able to check spark it =
seemed appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D=
"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font=
-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-tr=
ansform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:init=
ial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"=
color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-=
style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initi=
al;text-decoration-color:initial;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on thi=
s.&nbsp; I thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled the=
 float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=
&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a closed position it would get =
no gas and eventually shut down---but---both would have to stick so each ca=
rb wouldn't get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div><div=
 style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:=
16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0p=
x;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-s=
tyle:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:1=
6px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px=
;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-st=
yle:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">If they were stock in the open =
position it would be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again, unl=
ikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed fuel filter an=
d blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled t=
he float bowl caps, they have been full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically =
ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:=
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Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll&nbsp;flo=
ats solve that issue. If&nbsp;not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
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    re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
    caps, they have been full of gas."<br clear=3D"none">
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    Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
    and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
    the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
    tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
    my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
    pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
    facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
    otherwise in good shape).<br clear=3D"none">
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all
            connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
            base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very
            tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods =
of
            time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able
            to check spark.&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
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orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long
            before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start,
            then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">I know my trial and error method wasn't the best
            approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
            appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
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orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I
            thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled th=
e
            float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
            cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
            closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
            down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't
            get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">If they were stock in the open position it would
            be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
            unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed
            fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normall=
y
            and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
            full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvati=
on
            as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
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orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no
            shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div>
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Again, this sounds like a bad ground wire connection&nbsp;in the distributo=
r (you have to pull the condenser to see it=E2=80=94and I=E2=80=99d&nbsp;ch=
ange condenser&nbsp;out while you=E2=80=99re at it). The same exact thing h=
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ntire fuel system! Same exact symptoms. Crimping&nbsp;on a new connector an=
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9029299035"><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;fon=
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0;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white=
-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-=
decoration-color:initial;">Since having the car towed home I have checked a=
ll connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate ou=
t and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very tight.&nbsp; I have let her =
run in the garage for long periods of time and she has not shut down again =
so I haven't been able to check spark.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#0000=
00;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:norma=
l;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-tran=
sform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-sty=
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00000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:no=
rmal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-t=
ransform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-=
style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">When it did shut down, it wou=
ldn't take long before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then sta=
rt, then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-famil=
y:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight=
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;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial=
;text-decoration-color:initial;">I know my trial and error method wasn't th=
e best approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed appropriat=
e to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;fo=
nt-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;fon=
t-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform=
:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:in=
itial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#000000=
;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;=
font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transf=
orm:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style=
:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">Tell me if my analysis is correct =
on this.&nbsp; I thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pull=
ed the float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the =
carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a closed position it woul=
d get no gas and eventually shut down---but---both would have to stick so e=
ach carb wouldn't get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</di=
v><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font=
-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:=
2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spac=
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ns:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-s=
pacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">If=
 they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the ov=
erflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have a=
lready changed fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps norm=
ally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of gas=
.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.&nbsp;&nb=
sp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-ser=
if;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;o=
rphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;=
">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, san=
s-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:nor=
mal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows=
:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:ini=
tial;">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, a=
s I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div> </div></div></div></div>_____________=
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by cleaning and oiling the baseplate of the distributor, she has sat at idl=
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</div><div><br></div><div>Tom</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"yiv9029299035zw=
chr"><div><b>From: </b>"Robert Markovich via Healeys" &lt;[email-masked]=
m.net&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Bob Spidell" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "healey=
s" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 20, =
2023 5:41:07 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue<b=
r></div><div><br></div><div>
Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll&nbsp;flo=
ats solve that issue. If&nbsp;not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a&nbsp;3-ohm coil&nbsp;(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.&nbsp=
;<br><br><br><div class=3D"yiv9029299035yahoo-signature"><a href=3D"https:/=
/apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661" target=3D"=
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a><br></div><br><p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:#715ffa;padding-top:15px;m=
argin-top:0;" class=3D"yiv9029299035yahoo-quoted-begin">On Wednesday, Septe=
mber 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p>=
<blockquote class=3D"yiv9029299035iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv9029299035"><div>
    re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
    caps, they have been full of gas."<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
    and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
    the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
    tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
    my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
    pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
    facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
    otherwise in good shape).<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    bs<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"yiv9029299035yqt95592" class=3D"yiv9029299035yqt0783226228">=
<div class=3D"yiv9029299035moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts=
 via
      Healeys wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote>
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv9029299035yqt75672" class=3D"y=
iv9029299035yqt0783226228"><div><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvet=
ica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">
        <div>
         =20
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all
            connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
            base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very
            tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods =
of
            time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able
            to check spark.&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long
            before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start,
            then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">I know my trial and error method wasn't the best
            approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
            appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I
            thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled th=
e
            float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
            cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
            closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
            down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't
            get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">If they were stock in the open position it would
            be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
            unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed
            fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normall=
y
            and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
            full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvati=
on
            as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no
            shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div>
           </div>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none">
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If the engine starts and&nbsp;idles nicely=E2=80=94and there=E2=80=99s a ni=
ce fat spark at the plugs=E2=80=94but won=E2=80=99t rev, it sounds like a&n=
bsp;distributor advance sping(s) is broken or faulty in some other way. Mig=
ht consider rebuilding or replacing the distributor (I=E2=80=99d choose a M=
allory dual point over the Pertronix dist, and&nbsp;Pertronix makes a&nbsp;=
module for that as well).&nbsp;If the car runs well but conks out on the ro=
ad&nbsp;after it warms up, then restarts and repeats, it=E2=80=99s that stu=
pid little ground wire inside. Someone else mentioned a blocked gas cap bre=
ather, which is also quite easy to check. Rust in the gas tank? Could cause=
 the engine to run well and then stop, which is a good reason to use a clea=
r fuel filter.&nbsp;But this really sounds like a dist problem =E2=80=A6<br=
><br><br><div class=3D"yiv9029299035yahoo-signature"><a href=3D"https://app=
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n-top:0;" class=3D"yiv9029299035yahoo-quoted-begin">On Thursday, September =
21, 2023, 6:05 AM, Tom Felts &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blo=
ckquote class=3D"yiv9029299035iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv9029299035"><div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#00=
0000;"><div>I'm using the new floats, have a new 3ohm coil, and have change=
d the Pertronix to a new one.&nbsp; This is crazy----but after my last atte=
mpt by cleaning and oiling the baseplate of the distributor, she has sat at=
 idle for a loooooong tie and has not shut down.&nbsp; I'm still shooting i=
n the dark, I'll admit, and if she shuts down again I'll do a quick spark t=
est.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Tom</div><div><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><hr id=3D"yiv9029299035zwchr"><div id=3D"yiv9029299035yqtfd05702" =
class=3D"yiv9029299035yqt5527134192"><div><b>From: </b>"Robert Markovich vi=
a Healeys" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b>"Bob=
 Spidell" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "healeys" &lt;[email-masked]=
t&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 20, 2023 5:41:07 =
PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div><div id=
=3D"yiv9029299035yqtfd38614" class=3D"yiv9029299035yqt5527134192">
Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll&nbsp;flo=
ats solve that issue. If&nbsp;not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a&nbsp;3-ohm coil&nbsp;(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.&nbsp=
;<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv=
9029299035yahoo-signature"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://apps.apple.com=
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none"></div><br clear=3D"none"><p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:#715ffa;pad=
ding-top:15px;margin-top:0;" class=3D"yiv9029299035yahoo-quoted-begin">On W=
ednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"yiv9029299035iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv90=
29299035"><div>
    re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
    caps, they have been full of gas."<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
    and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
    the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
    tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
    my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
    pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
    facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
    otherwise in good shape).<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    bs<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"yiv9029299035yqt95592" class=3D"yiv9029299035yqt0783226228">=
<div class=3D"yiv9029299035moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts=
 via
      Healeys wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote>
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv9029299035yqt75672" class=3D"y=
iv9029299035yqt0783226228"><div><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvet=
ica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">
        <div>
         =20
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all
            connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
            base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very
            tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods =
of
            time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able
            to check spark.&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long
            before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start,
            then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">I know my trial and error method wasn't the best
            approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
            appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I
            thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled th=
e
            float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
            cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
            closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
            down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't
            get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">If they were stock in the open position it would
            be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
            unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed
            fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normall=
y
            and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
            full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvati=
on
            as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no
            shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div>
           </div>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none">
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try bypassing the cutoff switch in the trunk? That solved a similar problem=
 for me</div><div><br></div><div>Jon&nbsp;</div><div><br><div class=3D"yiv9=
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 Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:31 PM Robert Markovich via Healeys &lt;<a ymailto=
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arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv9029299035gmail_quote"><div>
Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll&nbsp;flo=
ats solve that issue. If&nbsp;not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a&nbsp;3-ohm coil&nbsp;(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.&nbsp=
;<br><br><br><div><a href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-w=
eather-video/id646100661" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">Sen=
t from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><br></div><br><p style=3D"font-size:1=
5px;color:#715ffa;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;">On Wednesday, September 2=
0, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer =
noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote><div id=3D"yiv=
9029299035m_-8673932485671985013yiv8100604757"><div>
    re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
    caps, they have been full of gas."<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
    and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
    the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
    tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
    my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
    pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
    facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
    otherwise in good shape).<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    bs<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"yiv9029299035m_-8673932485671985013yiv8100604757yqt95592"><d=
iv>On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via
      Healeys wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv9029299035m_-86739324856719850=
13yiv8100604757yqt75672"><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, s=
ans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">
        <div>
         =20
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">Since having the=
 car towed home I have checked all
            connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
            base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very
            tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods =
of
            time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able
            to check spark.&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"non=
e">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">When it did shut=
 down, it wouldn't take long
            before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start,
            then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"non=
e">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">I know my trial =
and error method wasn't the best
            approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
            appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"non=
e">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">Tell me if my an=
alysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I
            thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled th=
e
            float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
            cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
            closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
            down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't
            get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"non=
e">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">If they were sto=
ck in the open position it would
            be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
            unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed
            fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normall=
y
            and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
            full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvati=
on
            as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">in the garage sh=
e sits and purrs forever with no
            shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div>
           </div>
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      <br clear=3D"none">
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