Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

From: Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:49:59 -0400 (EDT)

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Continued----I will next take her out on the road--and if she shut down on me again I'll try to get a quick spark test. Other than what I've done, not sure what happens next if she shuts down and I have spark. There is an auto-electric place near me--might consider taking here there. 
Tom 

From: "Tom Felts" <[email-masked]> 
To: "healeys" <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:46:07 AM 
Subject: update on shutdown issue 

Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very tight. I have let her run in the garage for long periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to check spark. 

When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again then shut down. Then start, then shut down. 

I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components. 

Tell me if my analysis is correct on this. I thought it might be a fuel supply issue. So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs. If the float bowl jets were stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas. this seems like an unlikely condition. 

If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run. I have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line. The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of gas. So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause. 
in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Continued----I will next take her out on th=
e road--and if she shut down on me again I'll try to get a quick spark test=
.&nbsp; Other than what I've done, not sure what happens next if she shuts =
down and I have spark.&nbsp; There is an auto-electric place near me--might=
 consider taking here there.</div><div>Tom</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zw=
chr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: =
</b>"Tom Felts" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"healeys" &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1=
0:46:07 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>update on shutdown issue<br></div><div><br></=
div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' =
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16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0p=
x;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Since having the=
 car towed home I have checked all connections in the ignition system, pull=
ed the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were v=
ery tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods of time =
and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to check spark.&nbsp=
;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans=
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0px">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start ag=
ain then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div=
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font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">I know=
 my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without being able=
 to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;=
</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-=
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ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I thought it might be =
a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was =
ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets w=
ere stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down=
---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.&nbsp; this=
 seems like an unlikely condition.</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-fa=
mily:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;fo=
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l;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none=
;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">If they were stock in the open positi=
on it would be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely =
since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed fuel filter and blew=
 out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the flo=
at bowl caps, they have been full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled =
out fuel starvation as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#00000=
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nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">in the garage she sits and=
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From: "m.g.sharp--- via Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 11:08:01 -0400

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Tom,  someone suggested a blocked vent in the filler cap =E2=80=93 have =
you checked that?  I had that issue with my TC.  Car ran fine then for =
no apparent reason shut down.  If I waited a while she=E2=80=99d =
re-start run for a while, then the problem would re-occur.  However, it =
only ever happened when the tank was fairly full, and I was driving =
reasonably quickly.  Driving around town I did not have the issue.  My =
filler cap vent was partially blocked  so at low speeds the vent was =
working well enough that there was no issue, but at high speeds the vent =
could not keep up and the engine starved of fuel.  It seemed that if the =
fuel tank was low, there was sufficient volume of air in the tank that =
the problem did not occur, although I suspect if I had gone any =
distance, it may have eventually.  I twigged onto this as when the =
engine stopped, if I immediately opened the filler cap, I could hear a =
=E2=80=9Cwoosh=E2=80=9D of air being sucked into the tank, as it had a =
partial vacuum in it.  I simply trimmed a bit off the seal on the filler =
cap so the vent was completely open, and the problem disappeared.

=20

Good luck - Mirek =20

=20

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tom Felts =
via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:46 AM
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

=20

Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the =
ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned =
it--the the two pieces were very tight.  I have let her run in the =
garage for long periods of time and she has not shut down again so I =
haven't been able to check spark.=20

=20

When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start =
again then shut down.  Then start, then shut down. =20

=20

I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without =
being able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out =
components. =20

=20

Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.  I thought it might be a fuel =
supply issue.  So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok =
there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.  If the float bowl jets were =
stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut =
down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.  =
this seems like an unlikely condition.

=20

If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of =
the overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.  I =
have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.  The pump pumps =
normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full =
of gas.  So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause. =20

=20

in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I =
mentioned, I can't ch spark

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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tom,=C2=A0 someone suggested a =
blocked vent in the filler cap =E2=80=93 have you checked that?=C2=A0 I =
had that issue with my TC.=C2=A0 Car ran fine then for no apparent =
reason shut down.=C2=A0 If I waited a while she=E2=80=99d re-start run =
for a while, then the problem would re-occur.=C2=A0 However, it only =
ever happened when the tank was fairly full, and I was driving =
reasonably quickly. =C2=A0Driving around town I did not have the issue. =
=C2=A0My filler cap vent was partially blocked=C2=A0 so at low speeds =
the vent was working well enough that there was no issue, but at high =
speeds the vent could not keep up and the engine starved of fuel.=C2=A0 =
It seemed that if the fuel tank was low, there was sufficient volume of =
air in the tank that the problem did not occur, although I suspect if I =
had gone any distance, it may have eventually.=C2=A0 I twigged onto this =
as when the engine stopped, if I immediately opened the filler cap, I =
could hear a =E2=80=9Cwoosh=E2=80=9D of air being sucked into the tank, =
as it had a partial vacuum in it.=C2=A0 I simply trimmed a bit off the =
seal on the filler cap so the vent was completely open, and the problem =
disappeared.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Good luck - =
Mirek=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Felts via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:46 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] update on =
shutdown issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sin=
ce having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the =
ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned =
it--the the two pieces were very tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the =
garage for long periods of time and she has not shut down again so I =
haven't been able to check =
spark.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Whe=
n it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again =
then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, then shut =
down.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without =
being able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out =
components.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tel=
l me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I thought it might be a =
fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was =
ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl =
jets were stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually =
shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get =
gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely =
condition.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>If =
they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I =
have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump =
pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have =
been full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation =
as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>in =
the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I =
mentioned, I can't ch =
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re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, 
they have been full of gas."

Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and 
SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank 
that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 
and experienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked 
it down to a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the 
tank. Dad surmised the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually 
etched the hole (the tank was otherwise in good shape).

bs

On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
> Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the 
> ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned 
> it--the the two pieces were very tight.  I have let her run in the 
> garage for long periods of time and she has not shut down again so I 
> haven't been able to check spark.
>
> When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start 
> again then shut down.  Then start, then shut down.
>
> I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without 
> being able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.
>
> Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.  I thought it might be a 
> fuel supply issue.  So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok 
> there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.  If the float bowl jets were 
> stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut 
> down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.  
> If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of 
> the overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.  I 
> have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.  The pump 
> pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have 
> been full of gas.  So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a 
> cause.

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    re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
    caps, they have been full of gas."<br>
    <br>
    Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
    and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
    the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
    tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
    my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
    pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
    facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
    otherwise in good shape).<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via
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            widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
            0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial;
            text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
            initial;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.  I
            thought it might be a fuel supply issue.  So---I pulled the
            float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
            cleaned the carbs.  If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
            closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
            down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't
            get gas.  this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
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            initial;">If they were stock in the open position it would
            be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
            unlikely since it would still run.  I have already changed
            fuel filter and blew out the line.  The pump pumps normally
            and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
            full of gas.  So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation
            as a cause.  </div>
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I'm a little confused. The car will start and run an idle seemingly
forever. But if you start it up and drive it, it dies? Or are you just
getting into it and revving the engine a bit and it dies?

Sorry Tom, if I missed something, I think I read the whole thread..

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 11:03 AM Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the
> the two pieces were very tight.  I have let her run in the garage for long
> periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to
> check spark.
>
> When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again
> then shut down.  Then start, then shut down.
>
> Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.  I thought it might be a fuel
> supply issue.  So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok
> down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.  this
> seems like an unlikely condition.
>
> If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the
> overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.  I have
> already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.  The pump pumps normally
> and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of gas.
> So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.
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<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m a little confused. The car will start and run an =
idle seemingly forever. But if you start it up and drive it, it dies? Or ar=
e you just getting into it and revving the engine a bit and it dies?<div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sorry Tom, if I missed something, I =
think I read the whole thread..=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 11:03 AM T=
om Felts via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">healeys@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#=
000000"><div> <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-v=
ariant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;t=
ext-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text=
-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Since having the c=
ar towed home I have checked all connections in the ignition system, pulled=
 the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were ver=
y tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long periods of time an=
d she has not shut down again so I haven&#39;t been able to check spark.=C2=
=A0</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-varian=
t-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-i=
ndent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-deco=
ration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style=3D=
"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-wei=
ght:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transfo=
rm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;t=
ext-decoration-color:initial">When it did shut down, it wouldn&#39;t take l=
ong before she would start again then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shu=
t down.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:no=
rmal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-al=
ign:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></d=
iv><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps=
:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:=
0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration=
-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">I know my trial and error met=
hod wasn&#39;t the best approach, but without being able to check spark it =
seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div style=3D=
"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-wei=
ght:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transfo=
rm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;t=
ext-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing=
:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:no=
rmal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:i=
nitial">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might=
 be a fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all =
was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl je=
ts were stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut =
down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn&#39;t get gas.=C2=
=A0 this seems like an unlikely condition.</div><div style=3D"color:#000000=
;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;fo=
nt-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter=
-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-=
space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration=
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lign:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">If the=
y were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the overfl=
ow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have alrea=
dy changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps normally=
 and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of gas.=C2=
=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=A0=C2=A0<=
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o shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can&#39;t ch spark</div> </div></div>=
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From: Alan Garrison via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 12:46:27 -0400

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Before you go out on a test run I suggest you purchase a can of =
=E2=80=9CDry-Gas=E2=80=9D.  If the car shuts down again then add the =
Dry-Gas and drive on to see if the problem re-occurs.

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The problem may be water in the gas tank either from condensation or =
from the underground fuel tanks at your gas station. This has happened =
to me a few times over the past 50+ years of ownership with the same =
symptoms you described.

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Good luck!

=20

Alan

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tom Felts =
via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:50 AM
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

=20

Continued----I will next take her out on the road--and if she shut down =
on me again I'll try to get a quick spark test.  Other than what I've =
done, not sure what happens next if she shuts down and I have spark.  =
There is an auto-electric place near me--might consider taking here =
there.

Tom

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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Before you go out on a test =
run I suggest you purchase a can of =E2=80=9CDry-Gas=E2=80=9D. =C2=A0If =
the car shuts down again then add the Dry-Gas and drive on to see if the =
problem re-occurs.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The problem =
may be water in the gas tank either from condensation or from the =
underground fuel tanks at your gas station. This has happened to me a =
few times over the past 50+ years of ownership with the same symptoms =
you described.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Good =
luck!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Alan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=E2=80=9859 =
BN6<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Felts via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:50 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] update =
on shutdown issue<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Con=
tinued----I will next take her out on the road--and if she shut down on =
me again I'll try to get a quick spark test.&nbsp; Other than what I've =
done, not sure what happens next if she shuts down and I have =
spark.&nbsp; There is an auto-electric place near me--might consider =
taking here there.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tom=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr=
 size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&qu=
ot;Tom Felts&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r><b>To: </b>&quot;healeys&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:46:07 AM<br><b>Subject: =
</b>update on shutdown issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sin=
ce having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the =
ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned =
it--the the two pieces were very tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the =
garage for long periods of time and she has not shut down again so I =
haven't been able to check =
spark.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Whe=
n it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again =
then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, then shut =
down.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without =
being able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out =
components.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tel=
l me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I thought it might be a =
fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was =
ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl =
jets were stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually =
shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get =
gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely =
condition.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>If =
they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I =
have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump =
pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have =
been full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation =
as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>in =
the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I =
mentioned, I can't ch spark<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 21:22:23 +0200

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Is it a gradual or instat shut down?
Kees

Op 20-9-2023 om 17:39 schreef Bob Spidell:
> caps, they have been full of gas."
>
> SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the 
> tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for 
> our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad 
> finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the pickup was 
> soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to facilitate the 
> soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was otherwise in good 
> shape).
>
> bs
>
>
>> I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but 
>> without being able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out 
>> components.
>>
>> fuel supply issue.  So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was 
>> ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.  If the float bowl jets 
>> were stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually 
>> shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get 
>> gas.  this seems like an unlikely condition.
>>
>> If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out 
>> of the overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still 
>> run.  I have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.  The 
>> pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they 
>> have been full of gas.  So--I have basically ruled out fuel 
>> starvation as a cause.
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    <p>Is it a gradual or instat shut down?<br>
      Kees<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 20-9-2023 om 17:39 schreef Bob
      Spidell:<br>
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      re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
      caps, they have been full of gas."<br>
      <br>
      Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
      and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something
      in the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a
      used tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the
      engine; my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near
      where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux
      used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the
      tank was otherwise in good shape).<br>
      <br>
      bs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via
        Healeys wrote:<br>
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              connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
              base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were
              very tight.  I have let her run in the garage for long
              periods of time and she has not shut down again so I
              haven't been able to check spark. </div>
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              approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
              appropriate to change out components.  </div>
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data-mce-style="color:
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            initial;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.  I
              thought it might be a fuel supply issue.  So---I pulled
              the float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled
              and cleaned the carbs.  If the float bowl jets were stuck
              in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually
              shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb
              wouldn't get gas.  this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
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            sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
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style="color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica,
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            font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
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            initial; text-decoration-style: initial;
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data-mce-style="color:
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            letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start;
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            widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
            0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial;
            text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
            initial;">If they were stock in the open position it would
              be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
              unlikely since it would still run.  I have already changed
              fuel filter and blew out the line.  The pump pumps
              normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they
              have been full of gas.  So--I have basically ruled out
              fuel starvation as a cause.  </div>
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I've had problem Tom.
Traced it to ignition by installing a spark tester (photo) semi
permanently. When the engine stopped, left the ignition on lifted the
bonnet and cranked with the solenoid button.. no spark.
After pouring cold water over the coil it immediately restarted.
However... pretty sure you have changed the coil. =E2=98=B9=EF=B8=8F

M

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> ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--th=
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> the two pieces were very tight.  I have let her run in the garage for lon=
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> down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.  thi=
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> If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of th=
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> already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.  The pump pumps normal=
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<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve had problem Tom.<div dir=3D"auto">Traced it to i=
gnition by installing a spark tester (photo) semi permanently. When the eng=
ine stopped, left the ignition on lifted the bonnet and cranked with the so=
lenoid button.. no spark.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">After pouring cold w=
ater over the coil it immediately restarted.</div><div dir=3D"auto">However=
... pretty sure you have changed the coil. =E2=98=B9=EF=B8=8F</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Wed., Sep. 20, 2023, 10:59 a.m. Tom Felts via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000=
000"><div> <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-vari=
ant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-de=
coration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Since having the car =
towed home I have checked all connections in the ignition system, pulled th=
e distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very t=
ight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long periods of time and s=
he has not shut down again so I haven&#39;t been able to check spark.=C2=A0=
</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-inde=
nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decorat=
ion-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style=3D"co=
lor:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight=
:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:=
none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text=
-decoration-color:initial">When it did shut down, it wouldn&#39;t take long=
 before she would start again then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut d=
own.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:norma=
l;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align=
:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:=
0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div>=
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:no=
rmal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px=
;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-st=
yle:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">I know my trial and error method=
 wasn&#39;t the best approach, but without being able to check spark it see=
med appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div style=3D"co=
lor:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight=
:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:=
none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text=
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y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-=
ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:no=
rmal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norma=
l;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:init=
ial">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be=
 a fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was=
 ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets =
were stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut dow=
n---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn&#39;t get gas.=C2=A0=
 this seems like an unlikely condition.</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;fo=
nt-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-=
variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-sp=
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n:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing=
:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">If they w=
ere stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the overflow =
tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have already =
changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps normally an=
d each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of gas.=C2=A0=
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 I'm late to this but I aaume the wire in the distributor is not frayed. =
=C2=A0I had this on my BJ8 and whenver the vacuum advanced activate it caus=
ed the wire to short on the plate and the negined died. =C2=A0If this has b=
een covered I apologize.
Joe#923
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Before you go out on a test run I suggest you purchase a can of =E2=80=9CDr=
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drive on to see if the problem re-occurs.

 =C2=A0

The problem may be water in the gas tank either from condensation or from t=
he underground fuel tanks at your gas station. This has happened to me a fe=
w times over the past 50+ years of ownership with the same symptoms you des=
cribed.

 =C2=A0

Good luck!

 =C2=A0

Alan

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tom Felts via H=
ealeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:50 AM
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

 =C2=A0

Continued----I will next take her out on the road--and if she shut down on =
me again I'll try to get a quick spark test.=C2=A0 Other than what I've don=
e, not sure what happens next if she shuts down and I have spark.=C2=A0 The=
re is an auto-electric place near me--might consider taking here there.

Tom

 =C2=A0

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Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ignit=
ion system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the t=
wo pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long =
periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to c=
heck spark.=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again t=
hen shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without bein=
g able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a fu=
el supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok t=
here--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets were =
stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down---b=
ut---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this see=
ms like an unlikely condition.

 =C2=A0

If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have=
 already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps no=
rmally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of g=
as.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0

=C2=A0

in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I men=
tioned, I can't ch spark

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I'm late to this but I aaume=
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te and the negined died. &nbsp;If this has been covered I apologize.</div><=
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can of =E2=80=9CDry-Gas=E2=80=9D. &nbsp;If the car shuts down again then ad=
d the Dry-Gas and drive on to see if the problem re-occurs.</p><p class=3D"=
yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal">The =
problem may be water in the gas tank either from condensation or from the u=
nderground fuel tanks at your gas station. This has happened to me a few ti=
mes over the past 50+ years of ownership with the same symptoms you describ=
ed.</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv749562=
4917MsoNormal">Good luck!</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p=
><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal">Alan</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNo=
rmal">=E2=80=9859 BN6</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><di=
v id=3D"yiv7495624917yqt44491" class=3D"yiv7495624917yqt6117852730"><div><d=
iv style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0i=
n 0in;"><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healey=
[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Felts via Healeys<br c=
lear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:50 AM<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>To:</b> healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue</p></div></div><p=
 class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"yiv74956=
24917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;colo=
r:black;">Continued----I will next take her out on the road--and if she shu=
t down on me again I'll try to get a quick spark test.&nbsp; Other than wha=
t I've done, not sure what happens next if she shuts down and I have spark.=
&nbsp; There is an auto-electric place near me--might consider taking here =
there.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Tom</span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt=
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"center" style=3D"text-align:center;" class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"></span><hr=
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><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">From: </span></b><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">"Tom Felts" &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tomfelts@wi=
ndstream.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tom=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b>"healeys" &lt;<a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:heale=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, S=
eptember 20, 2023 10:46:07 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>update on s=
hutdown issue</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</s=
pan></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Since havin=
g the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ignition system,=
 pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces w=
ere very tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods of =
time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to check spark.=
&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12=
.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">When it did shut down, it wouldn'=
t take long before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, =
then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:blac=
k;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">I know my tr=
ial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without being able to ch=
eck spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:black;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nb=
sp; I thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled the floa=
t bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.&nbsp=
; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a closed position it would get no ga=
s and eventually shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wo=
uldn't get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;=
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s-serif;color:black;">If they were stock in the open position it would be d=
umping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would s=
till run.&nbsp; I have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.&n=
bsp; The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, th=
ey have been full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvat=
ion as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:blac=
k;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">in the garage=
 she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can=
't ch spark</span></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"=
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Couple more thoughts: 1) There=E2=80=99s a thin black braided ground=C2=A0w=
ire beneath the condenser inside the distributor=C2=A0if that and the=C2=A0=
points are still in place. If the distributor is the stock Lucas unit, even=
 with Pertronix,=C2=A0that wire may still exist; worth checking for frayed =
ends. Result:=C2=A0the car runs fine, then stalls as heat and electrical re=
sistance build. Then the car will restart and run fine=E2=80=94for a few mi=
nutes=E2=80=94until the same thing happens again. This happened to me until=
 I found the frayed wire. 2) The=C2=A0distributor isn=E2=80=99t advancing p=
roperly due to broken advance springs or some other issue. 3) The fuel pump=
 isn=E2=80=99t delivering enough fuel and/or the filter is clogged. All of =
these are easy to check=C2=A0=E2=80=A6

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 3:14 PM, Jim Ryan <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

I'm a little confused. The car will start and run an idle seemingly forever=
. But if you start it up and drive it, it dies? Or are you just getting int=
o it and revving the engine a bit and it dies?
Sorry Tom, if I missed something, I think I read the whole thread..=C2=A0
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 11:03 AM Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

 Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the igni=
tion system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the =
two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long=
 periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to =
check spark.=C2=A0
When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again t=
hen shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without bein=
g able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0
Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a fu=
el supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok t=
here--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets were =
stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down---b=
ut---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this see=
ms like an unlikely condition.
If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have=
 already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps no=
rmally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of g=
as.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------=
so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark ______________________________________=
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Couple more thoughts: 1) There=E2=80=99s a thin black braided ground&nbsp;w=
ire beneath the condenser inside the distributor&nbsp;if that and the&nbsp;=
points are still in place. If the distributor is the stock Lucas unit, even=
 with Pertronix,&nbsp;that wire may still exist; worth checking for frayed =
ends. Result:&nbsp;the car runs fine, then stalls as heat and electrical re=
sistance build. Then the car will restart and run fine=E2=80=94for a few mi=
nutes=E2=80=94until the same thing happens again. This happened to me until=
 I found the frayed wire. 2) The&nbsp;distributor isn=E2=80=99t advancing p=
roperly due to broken advance springs or some other issue. 3) The fuel pump=
 isn=E2=80=99t delivering enough fuel and/or the filter is clogged. All of =
these are easy to check&nbsp;=E2=80=A6<br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signa=
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-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 3:14 PM, Jim R=
yan &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div =
id=3D"yiv2170741860"><div><div>I'm a little confused. The car will start an=
d run an idle seemingly forever. But if you start it up and drive it, it di=
es? Or are you just getting into it and revving the engine a bit and it die=
s?<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Sorry Tom, if I missed something, I th=
ink I read the whole thread..&nbsp;</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div clas=
s=3D"yiv2170741860gmail_quote"><div id=3D"yiv2170741860yqt79431" class=3D"y=
iv2170741860yqt3671139406"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv2170741860gmail_att=
r">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 11:03 AM Tom Felts via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofol=
low noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv21=
70741860gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div> <div style=3D"color:#000000;font=
-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-=
weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-=
space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration=
-color:initial;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all connect=
ions in the ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and clea=
ned it--the the two pieces were very tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the=
 garage for long periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven=
't been able to check spark.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-fa=
mily:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-wei=
ght:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-spa=
ce:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-co=
lor:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-fam=
ily:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weig=
ht:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-spac=
e:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-col=
or:initial;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would =
start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</=
div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-i=
ndent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-deco=
ration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;fon=
t-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-in=
dent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decor=
ation-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">I know my trial and err=
or method wasn't the best approach, but without being able to check spark i=
t seemed appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=
=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;f=
ont-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text=
-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:i=
nitial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=
=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;f=
ont-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text=
-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:i=
nitial;text-decoration-color:initial;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on=
 this.&nbsp; I thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled=
 the float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the ca=
rbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a closed position it would =
get no gas and eventually shut down---but---both would have to stick so eac=
h carb wouldn't get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>=
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-s=
ize:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decorati=
on-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-si=
ze:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent=
:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoratio=
n-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">If they were stock in the o=
pen position it would be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,=
 unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed fuel filte=
r and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normally and each time I pull=
ed the float bowl caps, they have been full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basica=
lly ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"co=
lor:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-st=
yle:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-trans=
form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial=
;text-decoration-color:initial;">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;fo=
nt-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;fon=
t-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decorati=
on-color:initial;">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdow=
n------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div> </div></div></div>_______=
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Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll=C2=A0flo=
ats solve that issue. If=C2=A0not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a=C2=A03-ohm coil=C2=A0(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.=C2=
=A0

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

 re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, t=
hey have been full of gas."
=20
 Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and SS,=
 do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank that =
intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 and exp=
erienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked it down t=
o a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmis=
ed the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (th=
e tank was otherwise in good shape).
=20
 bs
=20
=20
 On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
 =20
=20
  Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ign=
ition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the=
 two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for lon=
g periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to=
 check spark.=C2=A0=20
  When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again=
 then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
  I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without be=
ing able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=20
  Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a =
fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok=
 there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets wer=
e stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down--=
-but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this s=
eems like an unlikely condition.=20
  If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of th=
e overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps =
normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of=
 gas.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown-=
-----so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark  =20
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Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll&nbsp;flo=
ats solve that issue. If&nbsp;not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a&nbsp;3-ohm coil&nbsp;(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.&nbsp=
;<br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a href=3D"https://apps.apple.c=
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nt-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Wednesd=
ay, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt; w=
rote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv8100604757"><div>
    re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
    caps, they have been full of gas."<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
    and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
    the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
    tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
    my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
    pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
    facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
    otherwise in good shape).<br clear=3D"none">
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orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all
            connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
            base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very
            tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods =
of
            time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able
            to check spark.&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long
            before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start,
            then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;"><br clear=3D"none">
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">I know my trial and error method wasn't the best
            approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
            appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I
            thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled th=
e
            float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
            cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
            closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
            down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't
            get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
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          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">If they were stock in the open position it would
            be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
            unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed
            fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normall=
y
            and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
            full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvati=
on
            as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no
            shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div>
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From: Robert Markovich via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 21:57:32 +0000 (UTC)

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Again, this sounds like a bad ground wire connection=C2=A0in the distributo=
r (you have to pull the condenser to see it=E2=80=94and I=E2=80=99d=C2=A0ch=
ange condenser=C2=A0out while you=E2=80=99re at it). The same exact thing h=
appened to me on the 100/6 I owned some years ago and I tried all the same =
things as I thought it was in the fuel system (don=E2=80=99t we all!). Fina=
lly I happened to pull the condenser on the roadside and saw that little bl=
ack ground=C2=A0wire hanging on by a few strands. After going through the e=
ntire fuel system! Same exact symptoms. Crimping=C2=A0on a new connector an=
d battening the wire down solved the problem instantly. A buildup of heat a=
nd electrical resistance compromising that bad ground wire connection=C2=A0=
explains why the car will run fine, then stall, restart after a few minutes=
 as things cool, then crap out again as heat and resistance build again.=C2=
=A0

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 11:24 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys <healeys@=
autox.team.net> wrote:

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<html xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microso=
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Again, this sounds like a bad ground wire connection&nbsp;in the distributo=
r (you have to pull the condenser to see it=E2=80=94and I=E2=80=99d&nbsp;ch=
ange condenser&nbsp;out while you=E2=80=99re at it). The same exact thing h=
appened to me on the 100/6 I owned some years ago and I tried all the same =
things as I thought it was in the fuel system (don=E2=80=99t we all!). Fina=
lly I happened to pull the condenser on the roadside and saw that little bl=
ack ground&nbsp;wire hanging on by a few strands. After going through the e=
ntire fuel system! Same exact symptoms. Crimping&nbsp;on a new connector an=
d battening the wire down solved the problem instantly. A buildup of heat a=
nd electrical resistance compromising that bad ground wire connection&nbsp;=
explains why the car will run fine, then stall, restart after a few minutes=
 as things cool, then crap out again as heat and resistance build again.&nb=
sp;<br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a href=3D"https://apps.apple=
.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661">Sent from the all new=
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font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Wedne=
sday, September 20, 2023, 11:24 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox=
.team.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv091145=
4547"><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size=
:12pt;color:#000000;"><div> <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, =
helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;lett=
er-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space=
:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decora=
tion-color:initial;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all con=
nections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and =
cleaned it--the the two pieces were very tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in=
 the garage for long periods of time and she has not shut down again so I h=
aven't been able to check spark.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;fon=
t-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font=
-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:=
none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:ini=
tial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;=
font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;f=
ont-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transfo=
rm:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:=
initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't =
take long before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, th=
en shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:aria=
l, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;l=
etter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-sp=
ace:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-dec=
oration-color:initial;"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:a=
rial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:40=
0;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white=
-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-=
decoration-color:initial;">I know my trial and error method wasn't the best=
 approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed appropriate to c=
hange out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-fam=
ily:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weig=
ht:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;=
text-decoration-color:initial;"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-=
family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-w=
eight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:no=
ne;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initi=
al;text-decoration-color:initial;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on thi=
s.&nbsp; I thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled the=
 float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=
&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a closed position it would get =
no gas and eventually shut down---but---both would have to stick so each ca=
rb wouldn't get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div><div=
 style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:=
16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0p=
x;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br></div><=
div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-si=
ze:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;t=
ext-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing=
:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">If they =
were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the overflow=
 tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already=
 changed fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normally a=
nd each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of gas.&nbsp=
; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</d=
iv><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;fon=
t-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans=
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cing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">&nbs=
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phans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;wor=
d-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"=
>in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I me=
ntioned, I can't ch spark</div> </div></div></div></div>___________________=
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 06:05:55 -0400 (EDT)

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I'm using the new floats, have a new 3ohm coil, and have changed the Pertro=
nix to a new one. This is crazy----but after my last attempt by cleaning an=
d oiling the baseplate of the distributor, she has sat at idle for a looooo=
ong tie and has not shut down. I'm still shooting in the dark, I'll admit, =
and if she shuts down again I'll do a quick spark test.=20

Tom=20

From: "Robert Markovich via Healeys" <[email-masked]>=20
To: "Bob Spidell" <[email-masked]>, "healeys" <[email-masked]=
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 5:41:07 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue=20

Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll floats s=
olve that issue. If not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (internal grou=
nd wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another Pertronix m=
odule and a 3-ohm coil (always smart to have a spare along anyway) and see =
if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more and more like an ad=
vance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.=20

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t> wrote:=20

re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, th=
ey have been full of gas."=20

Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and SS, =
do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank that i=
ntermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 and expe=
rienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked it down to=
 a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmise=
d the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the=
 tank was otherwise in good shape).=20

bs=20

On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:=20

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Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ignit=
ion system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the t=
wo pieces were very tight. I have let her run in the garage for long period=
s of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to check s=
park.=20

When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again t=
hen shut down. Then start, then shut down.=20

I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without bein=
g able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=20

Tell me if my analysis is correct on this. I thought it might be a fuel sup=
ply issue. So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok there--also p=
ulled and cleaned the carbs. If the float bowl jets were stuck in a closed =
position it would get no gas and eventually shut down---but---both would ha=
ve to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas. this seems like an unlikely cond=
ition.=20

If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run. I have alrea=
dy changed fuel filter and blew out the line. The pump pumps normally and e=
ach time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of gas. So--I ha=
ve basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=20
in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I men=
tioned, I can't ch spark=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>I'm using the new floats, have a new 3ohm c=
oil, and have changed the Pertronix to a new one.&nbsp; This is crazy----bu=
t after my last attempt by cleaning and oiling the baseplate of the distrib=
utor, she has sat at idle for a loooooong tie and has not shut down.&nbsp; =
I'm still shooting in the dark, I'll admit, and if she shuts down again I'l=
l do a quick spark test.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Tom<=
/div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-=
marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Robert Markovich via Healeys" &lt;heal=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Bob Spidell" &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt;, "healeys" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, S=
eptember 20, 2023 5:41:07 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] update on shu=
tdown issue<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">
Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll&nbsp;flo=
ats solve that issue. If&nbsp;not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a&nbsp;3-ohm coil&nbsp;(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.&nbsp=
;<br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a href=3D"https://apps.apple.c=
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    re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
    caps, they have been full of gas."<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
    and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
    the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
    tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
    my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
    pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
    facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
    otherwise in good shape).<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    bs<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"yiv8100604757yqt95592" class=3D"yiv8100604757yqt0783226228">=
<div class=3D"yiv8100604757moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts=
 via
      Healeys wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote>
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv8100604757yqt75672" class=3D"y=
iv8100604757yqt0783226228"><div><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvet=
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px">Since having the car towed home I have checked all
            connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
            base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very
            tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods =
of
            time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able
            to check spark.&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
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ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long
            before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start,
            then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px">I know my trial and error method wasn't the best
            approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
            appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I
            thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled th=
e
            float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
            cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
            closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
            down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't
            get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
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          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px">If they were stock in the open position it would
            be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
            unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed
            fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normall=
y
            and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
            full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvati=
on
            as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
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ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no
            shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div>
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From: Robert Markovich via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 12:13:05 +0000 (UTC)

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If the engine starts and=C2=A0idles nicely=E2=80=94and there=E2=80=99s a ni=
ce fat spark at the plugs=E2=80=94but won=E2=80=99t rev, it sounds like a=
=C2=A0distributor advance sping(s) is broken or faulty in some other way. M=
ight consider rebuilding or replacing the distributor (I=E2=80=99d choose a=
 Mallory dual point over the Pertronix dist, and=C2=A0Pertronix makes a=C2=
=A0module for that as well).=C2=A0If the car runs well but conks out on the=
 road=C2=A0after it warms up, then restarts and repeats, it=E2=80=99s that =
stupid little ground wire inside. Someone else mentioned a blocked gas cap =
breather, which is also quite easy to check. Rust in the gas tank? Could ca=
use the engine to run well and then stop, which is a good reason to use a c=
lear fuel filter.=C2=A0But this really sounds like a dist problem =E2=80=A6

On Thursday, September 21, 2023, 6:05 AM, Tom Felts <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

I'm using the new floats, have a new 3ohm coil, and have changed the Pertro=
nix to a new one.=C2=A0 This is crazy----but after my last attempt by clean=
ing and oiling the baseplate of the distributor, she has sat at idle for a =
loooooong tie and has not shut down.=C2=A0 I'm still shooting in the dark, =
I'll admit, and if she shuts down again I'll do a quick spark test.
Tom
From: "Robert Markovich via Healeys" <[email-masked]>
To: "Bob Spidell" <[email-masked]>, "healeys" <[email-masked]=
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 5:41:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

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If the engine starts and&nbsp;idles nicely=E2=80=94and there=E2=80=99s a ni=
ce fat spark at the plugs=E2=80=94but won=E2=80=99t rev, it sounds like a&n=
bsp;distributor advance sping(s) is broken or faulty in some other way. Mig=
ht consider rebuilding or replacing the distributor (I=E2=80=99d choose a M=
allory dual point over the Pertronix dist, and&nbsp;Pertronix makes a&nbsp;=
module for that as well).&nbsp;If the car runs well but conks out on the ro=
ad&nbsp;after it warms up, then restarts and repeats, it=E2=80=99s that stu=
pid little ground wire inside. Someone else mentioned a blocked gas cap bre=
ather, which is also quite easy to check. Rust in the gas tank? Could cause=
 the engine to run well and then stop, which is a good reason to use a clea=
r fuel filter.&nbsp;But this really sounds like a dist problem =E2=80=A6<br=
><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/u=
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ize: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Thursday, S=
eptember 21, 2023, 6:05 AM, Tom Felts &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote=
:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv2648000627"><div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000=
;"><div>I'm using the new floats, have a new 3ohm coil, and have changed th=
e Pertronix to a new one.&nbsp; This is crazy----but after my last attempt =
by cleaning and oiling the baseplate of the distributor, she has sat at idl=
e for a loooooong tie and has not shut down.&nbsp; I'm still shooting in th=
e dark, I'll admit, and if she shuts down again I'll do a quick spark test.=
</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Tom</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><hr id=3D"yiv2648000627zwchr"><div id=3D"yiv2648000627yqtfd05702" clas=
s=3D"yiv2648000627yqt5527134192"><div><b>From: </b>"Robert Markovich via He=
aleys" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b>"Bob Spi=
dell" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "healeys" &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 20, 2023 5:41:07 PM<b=
r clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div><div id=3D"yi=
v2648000627yqtfd38614" class=3D"yiv2648000627yqt5527134192">
Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll&nbsp;flo=
ats solve that issue. If&nbsp;not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a&nbsp;3-ohm coil&nbsp;(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.&nbsp=
;<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv=
2648000627yahoo-signature"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
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15ffa;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;" class=3D"yiv2648000627yahoo-quoted-be=
gin">On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@co=
mcast.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"yiv2648000627iosymail"><div id=
=3D"yiv2648000627"><div>
    re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
    caps, they have been full of gas."<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
    and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
    the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
    tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
    my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
    pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
    facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
    otherwise in good shape).<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    bs<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"yiv2648000627yqt95592" class=3D"yiv2648000627yqt0783226228">=
<div class=3D"yiv2648000627moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts=
 via
      Healeys wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote>
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv2648000627yqt75672" class=3D"y=
iv2648000627yqt0783226228"><div><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvet=
ica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">
        <div>
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          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all
            connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
            base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very
            tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods =
of
            time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able
            to check spark.&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long
            before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start,
            then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">I know my trial and error method wasn't the best
            approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
            appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nbsp; I
            thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled th=
e
            float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
            cleaned the carbs.&nbsp; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
            closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
            down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't
            get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">If they were stock in the open position it would
            be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
            unlikely since it would still run.&nbsp; I have already changed
            fuel filter and blew out the line.&nbsp; The pump pumps normall=
y
            and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
            full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvati=
on
            as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no
            shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div>
           </div>
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Did you try bypassing the cutoff switch in the trunk? That solved a similar
problem for me

Jon

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:31 PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel
> and preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll float=
s
> solve that issue. If not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (internal g=
round wire
> or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another Pertronix module
> and a 3-ohm coil (always smart to have a spare along anyway) and see if i=
t
> isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more and more like an advanc=
e problem
> if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.
>
>
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and SS=
,
> do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank that
> intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 and
> experienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked it
> down to a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Da=
d
> surmised the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the
> hole (the tank was otherwise in good shape).
>
> bs
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Did you try bypassing the cutoff switch in the trunk? Tha=
t solved a similar problem for me</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Jon=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:31 PM Robert Markovich v=
ia Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll=C2=A0flo=
ats solve that issue. If=C2=A0not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a=C2=A03-ohm coil=C2=A0(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
 and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.=C2=
=A0<br><br><br><div><a href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email=
-weather-video/id646100661" target=3D"_blank">Sent from the all new AOL app=
 for iOS</a><br></div><br><p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:#715ffa;padding-=
top:15px;margin-top:0">On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spide=
ll &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@c=
omcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote><div id=3D"m_-8673932485671985013y=
iv8100604757"><div>
    re: &quot;The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
    caps, they have been full of gas.&quot;<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Which type/brand of pump do you have? I&#39;ve seen pumps, both points
    and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
    the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
    tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
    my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
    pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
    facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
    otherwise in good shape).<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    bs<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"m_-8673932485671985013yiv8100604757yqt95592"><div>On 9/20/20=
23 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via
      Healeys wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"m_-8673932485671985013yiv81006047=
57yqt75672"><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
size:12pt;color:#000000">
        <div>
         =20
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Since having the ca=
r towed home I have checked all
            connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
            base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very
            tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long periods =
of
            time and she has not shut down again so I haven&#39;t been able
            to check spark.=C2=A0</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">When it did shut do=
wn, it wouldn&#39;t take long
            before she would start again then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start,
            then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">I know my trial and=
 error method wasn&#39;t the best
            approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
            appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Tell me if my analy=
sis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I
            thought it might be a fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled th=
e
            float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
            cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
            closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
            down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn&#39;t
            get gas.=C2=A0 this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">If they were stock =
in the open position it would
            be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
            unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have already changed
            fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps normall=
y
            and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
            full of gas.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvati=
on
            as a cause.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">=C2=A0</div>
          <div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">in the garage she s=
its and purrs forever with no
            shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can&#39;t ch spark</div>
           </div>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none">
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Hi all,

Atter 11+ years, my BJ8 has finally reached the point where I took her =
home yesterday painted Healey Blue. Now I can put all of the nice =
painted body parts back on, hopefully without scratching anything.=20

Back in 2015 I purchased many parts in preparation for this day. One =
item is the MKIII badge (of which I opened the box for the first time =
yesterday). When I place it in it=E2=80=99s spot on the front shroud, I =
was not happy with the way that it looked compared to 2 old badges that =
I have.=20

The old badge has less of an arch, and fits more flush to the body. The =
first thing I noticed is that the repro has more of an arch left to =
right. It=E2=80=99s more bulbous left to right than the originals.  This =
new one really only touches the body at the ends of the =E2=80=9Cwings=E2=80=
=9D. To me, I think it looks wrong.=20

In 2015 I paid $234 for this part from Moss. I see Moss lists this part =
now for $399=E2=80=A6ouch! Does anyone have any experience with this =
part? Has the reproduction part improved since 2015?=20

Thanks in advance,

Dave

64 Healey Blue BJ8!
72 XJ6

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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Hi all,</span><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Atter 11+ years, =
my BJ8 has finally reached the point where I took her home yesterday =
painted Healey Blue. Now I can put all of the nice painted body =
parts&nbsp;back on, hopefully without scratching =
anything.&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Back in 2015 I purchased many =
parts in preparation for this day. One item is the MKIII badge (of which =
I opened the box for the first time yesterday). When I&nbsp;place it in =
it=E2=80=99s&nbsp;spot on the front shroud, I was not happy =
with&nbsp;the&nbsp;way that it looked compared to 2 old badges that I =
have.&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">The old badge has less of an arch, =
and fits more flush to&nbsp;the body. The first thing I noticed =
is&nbsp;that the repro has more of an arch left to right. It=E2=80=99s =
more bulbous left to right than the originals. &nbsp;This new one really =
only&nbsp;touches the body at the ends of the&nbsp;=E2=80=9Cwings=E2=80=9D=
. To me, I think it looks wrong.&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">In 2015 I paid =
$234 for this part from Moss. I see Moss&nbsp;lists this part now for =
$399=E2=80=A6ouch! Does anyone have any experience with this part? Has =
the reproduction part improved since 2015?&nbsp;</span></div><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" =
class=3D"">Thanks in advance,</span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" =
class=3D"">Dave</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">64 Healey Blue =
BJ8!</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" =
class=3D"">72 XJ6</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br =
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In reference to the repro front badge question that I posted earlier, =
the image below shows the difference.

> On Sep 29, 2023, at 6:21 AM, David Masucci via Healeys =
>=20
> The old badge has less of an arch, and fits more flush to the body. =
The first thing I noticed is that the repro has more of an arch left to =
right. It=E2=80=99s more bulbous left to right than the originals.  This =
new one really only touches the body at the ends of the =E2=80=9Cwings=E2=80=
=9D. To me, I think it looks wrong.=20
>=20
> In 2015 I paid $234 for this part from Moss. I see Moss lists this =
part now for $399=E2=80=A6ouch! Does anyone have any experience with =
this part? Has the reproduction part improved since 2015?=20
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys =
http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">In reference to the repro front =
badge question that I posted earlier, the image below shows the =
difference.</span><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><img id=3D"<18ae0a6f3ea681f8ed21>" alt=3D"20230929_071108.jpg" =
class=3D"Apple-web-attachment Apple-edge-to-edge-visual-media Singleton" =
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src=3D"cid:18ae0a6f3ea681f8ed21"><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Sep =
29, 2023, at 6:21 AM, David Masucci via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Hi all,</span><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Atter 11+ years, =
my BJ8 has finally reached the point where I took her home yesterday =
painted Healey Blue. Now I can put all of the nice painted body =
parts&nbsp;back on, hopefully without scratching =
anything.&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Back in 2015 I purchased many =
parts in preparation for this day. One item is the MKIII badge (of which =
I opened the box for the first time yesterday). When I&nbsp;place it in =
it=E2=80=99s&nbsp;spot on the front shroud, I was not happy =
with&nbsp;the&nbsp;way that it looked compared to 2 old badges that I =
have.&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">The old badge has less of an arch, =
and fits more flush to&nbsp;the body. The first thing I noticed =
is&nbsp;that the repro has more of an arch left to right. It=E2=80=99s =
more bulbous left to right than the originals. &nbsp;This new one really =
only&nbsp;touches the body at the ends of the&nbsp;=E2=80=9Cwings=E2=80=9D=
. To me, I think it looks wrong.&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">In 2015 I paid =
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$399=E2=80=A6ouch! Does anyone have any experience with this part? Has =
the reproduction part improved since 2015?&nbsp;</span></div><div =
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Many repro badges for all kinds of classics have the wrong curvature. 
Made to a price I am afraid. Any producer wherever they are located can 
make proper badges, but at a cost. Moss probably did not pay more than a 
tenner originally and made a nice profit.
Fit the old one if it is anywhere near decent, it is authentic so a bit 
of patination adds to the charm of it.

Kees Oudesluijs

Op 29-9-2023 om 13:32 schreef David Masucci via Healeys:
> In reference to the repro front badge question that I posted earlier, 
> 20230929_071108.jpg
>> On Sep 29, 2023, at 6:21 AM, David Masucci via Healeys 
>> Atter 11+ years, my BJ8 has finally reached the point where I took 
>> her home yesterday painted Healey Blue. Now I can put all of the nice 
>> painted body parts back on, hopefully without scratching anything.
>>
>> Back in 2015 I purchased many parts in preparation for this day. One 
>> item is the MKIII badge (of which I opened the box for the first time 
>> yesterday). When I place it in it’s spot on the front shroud, I was 
>> not happy with the way that it looked compared to 2 old badges that I 
>> have.
>>
>> The old badge has less of an arch, and fits more flush to the body. 
>> The first thing I noticed is that the repro has more of an arch left 
>> to right. It’s more bulbous left to right than the originals.  This 
>> new one really only touches the body at the ends of the “wings”. To 
>> me, I think it looks wrong.
>>
>> In 2015 I paid $234 for this part from Moss. I see Moss lists this 
>> part now for $399…ouch! Does anyone have any experience with this 
>> part? Has the reproduction part improved since 2015?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> 64 Healey Blue BJ8!
>> 72 XJ6
>>
>>
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    <p>Many repro badges for all kinds of classics have the wrong
      curvature. Made to a price I am afraid. Any producer wherever they
      are located can make proper badges, but at a cost. Moss probably
      did not pay more than a tenner originally and made a nice profit.<br>
      Fit the old one if it is anywhere near decent, it is authentic so
      a bit of patination adds to the charm of it.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 29-9-2023 om 13:32 schreef David
      Masucci via Healeys:<br>
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      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">In reference to the repro
        front badge question that I posted earlier, the image below
        shows the difference.</span>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
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            <div class="">On Sep 29, 2023, at 6:21 AM, David Masucci via
              Healeys &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:</div>
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            <div class="">
              <div
style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"
                class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Hi all,</span>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br
                      class="">
                  </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Atter
                    11+ years, my BJ8 has finally reached the point
                    where I took her home yesterday painted Healey Blue.
                    Now I can put all of the nice painted body
                    parts back on, hopefully without scratching
                    anything. </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br
                      class="">
                  </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Back
                    in 2015 I purchased many parts in preparation for
                    this day. One item is the MKIII badge (of which I
                    opened the box for the first time yesterday). When
                    I place it in it’s spot on the front shroud, I was
                    not happy with the way that it looked compared to 2
                    old badges that I have. </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br
                      class="">
                  </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">The
                    old badge has less of an arch, and fits more flush
                    to the body. The first thing I noticed is that the
                    repro has more of an arch left to right. It’s more
                    bulbous left to right than the originals.  This new
                    one really only touches the body at the ends of
                    the “wings”. To me, I think it looks wrong. </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br
                      class="">
                  </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">In
                    2015 I paid $234 for this part from Moss. I see
                    Moss lists this part now for $399…ouch! Does anyone
                    have any experience with this part? Has the
                    reproduction part improved since 2015? </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br
                      class="">
                  </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Thanks
                    in advance,</span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br
                      class="">
                  </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Dave</span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br
                      class="">
                  </span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">64
                    Healey Blue BJ8!</span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">72
                    XJ6</span></div>
                <div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br
                      class="">
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I wonder if you could get a refund from Moss and have your original =
restored?

I=E2=80=99ve used Pamela David Enamels:-

 <http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/> ONE-OFF BADGE MANUFACTURE & RESTORATION =
OF GLASS ENAMEL BADGES (badgecraft.co.uk)

Don=E2=80=99t be put off by the rustic state of their website or the =
reference to faxes. Their work is excellent. They are not VAT registered =
so it=E2=80=99s =C2=A3266:00(!!!) plus shipping. It would be done by =
February!

A lot of money. A lot of time. But you=E2=80=99ll have something as good =
as new. I put my money where my mouth is and had them do mine. Mine =
looks just right, I think, and I was flattered if extremely pissed off =
when a bodyshop stole it and put on a crummy repro. =
=E2=80=9COh=E2=80=9D, the man said, =E2=80=9Cwe always put on new badges =
when we work on classics.=E2=80=9D I asked where mine was.. =E2=80=9CWe =
threw it out, of course=E2=80=9D.

I told him that he had 5 minutes to rethink whereupon he opened his =
drawer and passed it over. The police was not interested! Enough =
waffle=E2=80=A6

Simon

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of David =
Masucci via Healeys
Sent: 29 September 2023 11:21
To: Ahealey help <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] BADGE, Austin Healey MK III

=20

Hi all,

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The old badge has less of an arch, and fits more flush to the body. The =
first thing I noticed is that the repro has more of an arch left to =
right. It=E2=80=99s more bulbous left to right than the originals.  This =
new one really only touches the body at the ends of the =
=E2=80=9Cwings=E2=80=9D. To me, I think it looks wrong.=20

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Dave

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64 Healey Blue BJ8!

72 XJ6

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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I wonder if =
you could get a refund from Moss and have your original =
restored?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99ve used Pamela David =
Enamels:-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/"><span style=3D'color:blue'>ONE-OFF =
BADGE MANUFACTURE &amp; RESTORATION OF GLASS ENAMEL BADGES =
(badgecraft.co.uk)</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Don=E2=80=99t be put off by the =
rustic state of their website or the reference to faxes. Their work is =
excellent. They are not VAT registered so it=E2=80=99s =C2=A3266:00(!!!) =
plus shipping. It would be done by February!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>A lot of =
money. A lot of time. But you=E2=80=99ll have something as good as new. =
I put my money where my mouth is and had them do mine. Mine looks just =
right, I think, and I was flattered if extremely pissed off when a =
bodyshop stole it and put on a crummy repro. =E2=80=9COh=E2=80=9D, the =
man said, =E2=80=9Cwe always put on new badges when we work on =
classics.=E2=80=9D I asked where mine was.. =E2=80=9CWe threw it out, of =
course=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I told him that he had 5 minutes to =
rethink whereupon he opened his drawer and passed it over. The police =
was not interested! Enough waffle=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Masucci =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 September 2023 11:21<br><b>To:</b> =
Ahealey help &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
BADGE, Austin Healey MK III<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>Hi all,</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>Atter 11+ years, my =
BJ8 has finally reached the point where I took her home yesterday =
painted Healey Blue. Now I can put all of the nice painted body =
parts&nbsp;back on, hopefully without scratching =
anything.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>Back in 2015 I =
purchased many parts in preparation for this day. One item is the MKIII =
badge (of which I opened the box for the first time yesterday). When =
I&nbsp;place it in it=E2=80=99s&nbsp;spot on the front shroud, I was not =
happy with&nbsp;the&nbsp;way that it looked compared to 2 old badges =
that I have.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>The old badge has =
less of an arch, and fits more flush to&nbsp;the body. The first thing I =
noticed is&nbsp;that the repro has more of an arch left to right. =
It=E2=80=99s more bulbous left to right than the originals. &nbsp;This =
new one really only&nbsp;touches the body at the ends of =
the&nbsp;=E2=80=9Cwings=E2=80=9D. To me, I think it looks =
wrong.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>In 2015 I paid $234 =
for this part from Moss. I see Moss&nbsp;lists this part now for =
$399=E2=80=A6ouch! Does anyone have any experience with this part? Has =
the reproduction part improved since =
2015?&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>Thanks in =
advance,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
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From: "S.Carr via Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:20:21 -0400

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Hemmings Motor News used to have an ad from a company that re-enameled badg=
es, but I can=E2=80=99t find it in the print or on-line edition right now. =
 If you know of a business that restores Classic cars, ask them if they hav=
e a source=E2=80=94
Sarah Carr
Ex-BN1 in PA

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: David Masucci via Healeys
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 6:32 AM
To: Ahealey help
Subject: [Healeys] BADGE, Austin Healey MK III

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ngs Motor News used to have an ad from a company that re-enameled badges, b=
ut I can=E2=80=99t find it in the print or on-line edition right now.=C2=A0=
 If you know of a business that restores Classic cars, ask them if they hav=
e a source=E2=80=94<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sarah Carr<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ex-BN1 in PA<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
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succi via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, September 29, 2023 6:32 AM<br=
><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Ahealey help</a><br><=
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From: Roland Wilhelmy <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 16:17:00 -0700

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I second Simon's recommendation.  They restored my BN1's badge, and it was
perfect.  Expect it to take time.  It's worth the time and money.
-Roland Wilhelmy

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 2:35 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> I wonder if you could get a refund from Moss and have your original
> restored?
>
> ONE-OFF BADGE MANUFACTURE & RESTORATION OF GLASS ENAMEL BADGES
> (badgecraft.co.uk) <http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/>
>
> Don=E2=80=99t be put off by the rustic state of their website or the refe=
rence to
> faxes. Their work is excellent. They are not VAT registered so it=E2=80=
=99s
> =C2=A3266:00(!!!) plus shipping. It would be done by February!
>
as new. I
> put my money where my mouth is and had them do mine. Mine looks just righ=
t,
> I think, and I was flattered if extremely pissed off when a bodyshop stol=
e
> it and put on a crummy repro. =E2=80=9COh=E2=80=9D, the man said, =E2=80=
=9Cwe always put on new
> badges when we work on classics.=E2=80=9D I asked where mine was.. =E2=80=
=9CWe threw it
> out, of course=E2=80=9D.
>
> I told him that he had 5 minutes to rethink whereupon he opened his drawe=
r
> and passed it over. The police was not interested! Enough waffle=E2=80=A6
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *David
> Masucci via Healeys
> *Sent:* 29 September 2023 11:21
> *To:* Ahealey help <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] BADGE, Austin Healey MK III
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Atter 11+ years, my BJ8 has finally reached the point where I took her
> home yesterday painted Healey Blue. Now I can put all of the nice painted
> body parts back on, hopefully without scratching anything.
>
>
>
> Back in 2015 I purchased many parts in preparation for this day. One item
> is the MKIII badge (of which I opened the box for the first time
> yesterday). When I place it in it=E2=80=99s spot on the front shroud, I w=
as not
> happy with the way that it looked compared to 2 old badges that I have.
>
>
>
> The old badge has less of an arch, and fits more flush to the body. The
> first thing I noticed is that the repro has more of an arch left to right=
.
> It=E2=80=99s more bulbous left to right than the originals.  This new one=
 really
> only touches the body at the ends of the =E2=80=9Cwings=E2=80=9D. To me, =
I think it looks
> wrong.
>
>
>
> In 2015 I paid $234 for this part from Moss. I see Moss lists this part
> now for $399=E2=80=A6ouch! Does anyone have any experience with this part=
? Has the
> reproduction part improved since 2015?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> 64 Healey Blue BJ8!
>
> 72 XJ6
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>I second Simon&#39;s recommendation.=C2=A0 They rest=
ored my BN1&#39;s badge, and it was perfect.=C2=A0 Expect it to take time.=
=C2=A0 It&#39;s worth the time and money.</div><div dir=3D"auto">-Roland Wi=
lhelmy=C2=A0<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 2:35 PM Simon Lachlan via Heal=
eys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB" li=
nk=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-5932832418541930295WordSe=
ction1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I wonder if you could get a refund fro=
m Moss and have your original restored?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span>I=E2=80=99ve used Pamela David Enamels:-<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><span style=3D"color:blue">ONE-OFF BADGE =
MANUFACTURE &amp; RESTORATION OF GLASS ENAMEL BADGES (badgecraft.co.uk)</sp=
an></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Don=E2=80=99t be put =
off by the rustic state of their website or the reference to faxes. Their w=
ork is excellent. They are not VAT registered so it=E2=80=99s =C2=A3266:00(=
!!!) plus shipping. It would be done by February!<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>A lot of money. A lot of time. But you=E2=80=99=
ll have something as good as new. I put my money where my mouth is and had =
them do mine. Mine looks just right, I think, and I was flattered if extrem=
ely pissed off when a bodyshop stole it and put on a crummy repro. =E2=80=
=9COh=E2=80=9D, the man said, =E2=80=9Cwe always put on new badges when we =
work on classics.=E2=80=9D I asked where mine was.. =E2=80=9CWe threw it ou=
t, of course=E2=80=9D.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
>I told him that he had 5 minutes to rethink whereupon he opened his drawer=
 and passed it over. The police was not interested! Enough waffle=E2=80=A6<=
u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon<br><br><u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0p=
t 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Masucci via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> =
29 September 2023 11:21<br><b>To:</b> Ahealey help &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] BADGE, Austin Healey MK III<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Hi all,</span>=
<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Atter 11+ yea=
rs, my BJ8 has finally reached the point where I took her home yesterday pa=
inted Healey Blue. Now I can put all of the nice painted body parts=C2=A0ba=
ck on, hopefully without scratching anything.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Back in 2015 I purchased=
 many parts in preparation for this day. One item is the MKIII badge (of wh=
ich I opened the box for the first time yesterday). When I=C2=A0place it in=
 it=E2=80=99s=C2=A0spot on the front shroud, I was not happy with=C2=A0the=
=C2=A0way that it looked compared to 2 old badges that I have.=C2=A0</span>=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">The old=
 badge has less of an arch, and fits more flush to=C2=A0the body. The first=
 thing I noticed is=C2=A0that the repro has more of an arch left to right. =
It=E2=80=99s more bulbous left to right than the originals.=C2=A0 This new =
one really only=C2=A0touches the body at the ends of the=C2=A0=E2=80=9Cwing=
s=E2=80=9D. To me, I think it looks wrong.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">In 2015 I paid $234 for thi=
s part from Moss. I see Moss=C2=A0lists this part now for $399=E2=80=A6ouch=
! Does anyone have any experience with this part? Has the reproduction part=
 improved since 2015?=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Thanks in advance,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Dave</span><u></u><u></u></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">64 Healey Blue BJ8!</span>=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt">72 XJ6</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></di=
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