Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!

From: Tim Davis BN7 <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 19:07:00 -0400 (EDT)

My first thought was condenser but I see you mention pertronix so maybe this doesn't apply. What about trying a stock distributor?

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 07:26:04 +0200 (CEST)
From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
To: Roger Grace <[email-masked]>
Cc: "Healey, Forum" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 123 Ignition
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For the 6 cylinder version there is the top entry cap only in black or red.
 
Josef Eckert
Germany

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Von: "Roger Grace" <[email-masked]>
An: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>

Thank you and yes looking for a 6 cyl version ...

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  Roger,
  There is a side entry cap available for 123 Ignition 4 cylinders, but as
  you said its a Bosch/Beru cap looking different to a LUCAS cap.
   
  Josef Eckert
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  Wondering if anyone is aware of, or if they even exist, of a source of a
  side entry cap that fits a 123 distributor ? This supposed to be a
  standard Bosch cap ?
  Just trying to keep things looking a little original ...
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 10:23:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem
	ever!
Message-ID:
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Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down. Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again. I tried many fixes which I will list below. Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year). 

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass. 

So here is what I have tried: * new coil * new voltage regulator * new fuel pump * New ignition switch * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside) * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly * replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly. 

All this----and STILL o joy. I'm really out of ideas at this point. If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them. 

Thanks 
Tom 
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:06:26 +0000
From: Richard Collins <[email-masked]>
To: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
Message-ID:
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Does it do it only in summer type warm weather ?
If so, I?d say vapor lock of fuel system.
Happens to me in the summer and predicted to happen when water temp on my instruments hit 200 degrees when stopped. Although I have wrapped insulation around the lines leading to the carbs close to the manifold which helped but has not cured the issue. I do have a heat shield but haven?t installed it.
So my cure is not to drive on hot days.

Regards,
Richard C
BN7 #440

On Sep 17, 2023, at 10:22, Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:

?
Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.

So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.

 All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.

Thanks
Tom
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:13:12 +0000
From: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
To: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>, healeys
	<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
Message-ID:
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Tom,
Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled the float bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its right spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years ago and that was my pfonlrm.

Jean

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!

Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.

So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.

 All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.

Thanks
Tom
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:25:30 +0000
From: "Hank Leach" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Tom Felts'" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "'healeys'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!

Spider in fuel cap vent hole blocking free flow of air. Yes, I have
seen it bring a Healey to its knees. Hank

	-----------------------------------------From: "Tom Felts via
Healeys" 
To: "healeys"
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday September 17 2023 8:30:35AM
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem
ever!

    Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she
shut down. Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a
while--then shut down again. I tried many fixes which I will list
below. Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and
I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time
once again (3 times this year).   
  The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a
light or for a car to pass.  
  So here is what I have tried: * new coil * new voltage regulator *
new fuel pump * New ignition switch * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled
float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside) * Pulled the
distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it * disconnected the wire
leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the
entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one *
checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly *
replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . *
checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it
was attached properly.  
  All this----and STILL o joy. I'm really out of ideas at this point.
If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.  
  Thanks  Tom
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400
From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
To: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
Message-ID:
	<CAB3i7L+Q5AqBJoY++0_N4=_ZN2VgeCOmiaFU=[email-masked]>

With all due respects Tom this sounds like the perfect situation where my
favorite adage applies.
"*Diagnosis BEFORE repair"*.
The repair system, usually adhered to in dealerships,  of "throw parts at
it until the problem is resolved" is the corolary of that process.
Some questions:
1. When the engine stops have you check for spark at a plug lead?
2. When the engine stops have you checked for fuel delivery at the
carburetors?
3. When you attempt a restart does the cranking sound normal?
4. Does the engine restart after everything cools down?
Almost certainly you will get the wrong answer to one of the above
questions (very unlikely more than one) and then you have something to
direct your attention to.

M

On Sun., Sep. 17, 2023, 11:17 a.m. Tom Felts via Healeys, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.
> Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut
> down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times
> after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed"
> it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this
> year).
>
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or
> for a car to pass.
>
> So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new
> fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float
> bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate
> out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the
> battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff
> switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug
> wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor
> *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the
> distributor to make sure it was attached properly.
>
>  All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If
> anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>
> Thanks
> Tom
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:33:23 +0200
From: Kees Oudesluijs <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!

Sounds like a faulty coil or a bad/broken wire somewhere. Also check the 
engine earth strap and battery switch and connections. What coil have 
you fitted. If the ballast resistor (wire) is still in place it should 
be a 12V ca. 1,5 Ohm coil to be used with a resistor or a 12V ca. 3Ohm 
coil to be used without resistor.

Op 17-9-2023 om 16:23 schreef Tom Felts via Healeys:
> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut 
> down.? Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a 
> while--then shut down again.? I tried many fixes which I will list 
> below.? Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and 
> I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time 
> once again (3 times this year).
>
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light 
> or for a car to pass.
>
> So here is what I have tried:? * new coil? * new voltage regulator? * 
> new fuel pump? * New ignition switch? * Blew out the fuel lines * 
> pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)? * Pulled the 
> distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it? * disconnected the 
> wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed 
> the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new 
> one? * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on 
> properly? *? replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor 
> cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make 
> sure it was attached properly.
>
> ?All this----and STILL o joy.? I'm really out of ideas at this point.? 
> If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>
> Thanks
> Tom
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 09:45:26 -0700
From: Harold Manifold <[email-masked]>
To: Richard Collins <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>, healeys
	<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!

Sounds like you have checked everything on the ignition system. Could be fuel related. What do the spark plugs look like? If the ceramic is black then too rich if white then too lean. Lastly there is the ground wire that runs from the coil to the battery shutoff switch. Could the wire be grounding somewhere? Try disconnecting it at the coil.

Harold

> On Sep 17, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Richard Collins via Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> ? Does it do it only in summer type warm weather ?
> If so, I?d say vapor lock of fuel system.
> Happens to me in the summer and predicted to happen when water temp on my instruments hit 200 degrees when stopped. Although I have wrapped insulation around the lines leading to the carbs close to the manifold which helped but has not cured the issue. I do have a heat shield but haven?t installed it.
> So my cure is not to drive on hot days.  
> 
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 #440
> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 10:22, Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).  
>> 
>> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.
>> 
>> So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.
>> 
>>  All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Tom
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 17:49:10 +0100
From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
To: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>, healeys
	<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!

Heat shield and moved the fuel filter further forward solved my problems 20 years ago 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Sep 2023, at 17:41, Jean Caron <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Tom,
> Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled the float bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its right spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years ago and that was my pfonlrm.
> 
> Jean
> 
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM
> To: healeys <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
>  
> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).  
> 
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.
> 
> So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.
> 
>  All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
> 
> Thanks
> Tom
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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 09:57:56 -0700
From: "=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=" <[email-masked]>
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Subject: [Healeys] contact

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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:10:12 +0100
From: john harper <[email-masked]>
To: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>, healeys
	<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
Message-ID:
	<[email-masked]>

Have you checked that your fillercap small hole is open?

On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 17:59, Jean Caron <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Tom,
> Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled the
> float bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its
> right spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years ago and
> that was my pfonlrm.
>
> Jean
>
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tom Felts
> via Healeys <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM
> *To:* healeys <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem
> ever!
>
> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.
> Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut
> down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times
> after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed"
> it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this
> year).
>
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or
> for a car to pass.
>
> So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new
> fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float
> bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate
> out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the
> battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff
> switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug
> wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor
> *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the
> distributor to make sure it was attached properly.
>
>  All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If
> anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>
> Thanks
> Tom
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:19:52 +0100
From: <[email-masked]>
To: "'Healeys'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive relay.

I am putting a modern relay into my OD relay. Done it before with both the
8-way flasher box and the OD relay. Works well, though this one only managed
+/-10 years. 10 years, but not so very many miles.

Anyhow..it's a really tight fit in there and I thought I might save some
space with thinner wires this time. What does the team think about the
ampage flowing around in there? Is there much and is it constant when the
car's in OD or is it just a short burst to activate the coil and energize
the solenoid? I'm thinking that bigger wires means less space (Harder to
bend into little spaces) and thinner wires means overheating and consequent
problems...

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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 13:19:47 -0400
From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 PCV kits
Message-ID:
	<[email-masked]>

Due to unprecedented demand (actually only 4 kits) I have done another
run of these PCV kits.
https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-engine-oil-leak-solution/
I've had positive responses from the folks that have installed them so
if anyone is struggling with oil leakage problems this is probably
worth a try.

M

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 17:25:36 +0000
From: Ulla_Sven Ordell <[email-masked]>
To: Hank Leach <[email-masked]>, 'Tom Felts'
	<[email-masked]>
Cc: 'healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
	problem ever!
Message-ID:
	<[email-masked]>

Blocked air supply to tank would give these symptoms. I Have also had a broken low tension lead to distributor looked fine but was loose at the connector.

Good luck You will find it eventually  and please let us know

RTegards

Sven
Sweden

Fr?n: Healeys <[email-masked]> F?r Hank Leach via Healeys
Skickat: den 17 september 2023 18:26
Till: 'Tom Felts' <[email-masked]>
Kopia: 'healeys' <[email-masked]>
?mne: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!

Spider in fuel cap vent hole blocking free flow of air. Yes, I have seen it bring a Healey to its knees.  Hank

-----------------------------------------
From: "Tom Felts via Healeys"
To: "healeys"
Cc:
Sent: Sunday September 17 2023 8:30:35AM
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.  Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.  I tried many fixes which I will list below.  Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.  Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.

So here is what I have tried:  * new coil  * new voltage regulator  * new fuel pump  * New ignition switch  * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)  * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it  * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one  * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly  *  replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.

 All this----and STILL o joy.  I'm really out of ideas at this point.  If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.

Thanks
Tom
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 Let me suggest changing out the Pertronix coil with a gold Lucas Sport Coi=
l, 3 ohms resistance. Pertronix has had a few coil failures--including mine=
, which failed on my Healey 100. And especially with the Pertronix ignition=
, be sure your grounds are all good and battery connections secure, as a ba=
d ground will blow the module on these.=C2=A0
    On Monday, September 18, 2023, 12:17:04 AM EDT, Tim Davis BN7 <tld6008@=
mchsi.com> wrote: =20
=20
 My first thought was condenser but I see you mention pertronix so maybe th=
is doesn't apply. What about trying a stock distributor?

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=C2=A0 1. Re: 123 Ignition ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 2. The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Tom Felts)
=C2=A0 3. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Richard Collins)
=C2=A0 4. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Jean Caron)
=C2=A0 5. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Hank Leach)
=C2=A0 6. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Michael Salter)
=C2=A0 7. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Kees Oudesluijs)
=C2=A0 8. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Harold Manifold)
=C2=A0 9. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 10. contact (=3D?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=3D)
=C2=A0 11. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (john harper)
=C2=A0 12. Overdrive relay. ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 13. BN1/2 PCV kits (Michael Salter)
=C2=A0 14. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Ulla_Sven Ordell)

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 07:26:04 +0200 (CEST)
From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
To: Roger Grace <[email-masked]>
Cc: "Healey, Forum" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 123 Ignition
Message-ID:
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Josef Eckert
Germany
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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 123 Ignition
Datum: 2023-09-16T00:46:22+0200
Von: "Roger Grace" <[email-masked]>
An: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
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On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 1:25?PM [email-masked]
=C2=A0 Roger,
=C2=A0 There is a side entry cap available for 123 Ignition 4 cylinders, bu=
t as
=C2=A0 you said its a Bosch/Beru cap looking different to a LUCAS cap.
=C2=A0=20
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=C2=A0 Betreff: [Healeys] 123 Ignition
=C2=A0 Datum: 2023-09-15T21:52:07+0200
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=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0 Wondering if anyone is aware of, or if they even exist, of a source =
of a
=C2=A0 side entry cap that fits a 123 distributor ? This supposed to be a
=C2=A0 standard Bosch cap ?
=C2=A0 Just trying to keep things looking a little original ...
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ever!
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <1287430440.5210296.1694960633388.JavaMail.zimbra@windst=
ream.net>

Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down. L=
et it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut do=
wn again. I tried many fixes which I will list below. Several times after t=
he fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-=
----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).=20

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or f=
or a car to pass.=20

So here is what I have tried: * new coil * new voltage regulator * new fuel=
 pump * New ignition switch * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls =
and cleaned them (no debris inside) * Pulled the distributor plate out and =
cleaned and oiled it * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutof=
f switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replace=
d the Pertronix with a new one * checked all the sparkplug wires to make su=
re they were on properly * replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the dis=
tributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to ma=
ke sure it was attached properly.=20

All this----and STILL o joy. I'm really out of ideas at this point. If anyo=
ne has any ideas for me to check please share them.=20

Thanks=20
Tom=20
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:06:26 +0000
From: Richard Collins <[email-masked]>
To: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 problem ever!
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]=
mprd19.prod.outlook.com>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

Does it do it only in summer type warm weather ?
If so, I?d say vapor lock of fuel system.
Happens to me in the summer and predicted to happen when water temp on my i=
nstruments hit 200 degrees when stopped. Although I have wrapped insulation=
 around the lines leading to the carbs close to the manifold which helped b=
ut has not cured the issue. I do have a heat shield but haven?t installed i=
t.
So my cure is not to drive on hot days.

Regards,
Richard C
BN7 #440

On Sep 17, 2023, at 10:22, Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

?
Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.=
=C2=A0 Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then=
 shut down again.=C2=A0 I tried many fixes which I will list below.=C2=A0 S=
everal times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I h=
ad "fixed" it.=C2=A0 Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (=
3 times this year).

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or f=
or a car to pass.

So here is what I have tried:=C2=A0 * new coil=C2=A0 * new voltage regulato=
r=C2=A0 * new fuel pump=C2=A0 * New ignition switch=C2=A0 * Blew out the fu=
el lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)=C2=A0 * P=
ulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it=C2=A0 * disconnect=
ed the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed =
the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one=C2=
=A0 * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly=C2=
=A0 *=C2=A0 replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . =
* checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was =
attached properly.

 All this----and STILL o joy.=C2=A0 I'm really out of ideas at this point.=
=C2=A0 If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.

Thanks
Tom

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:13:12 +0000
From: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
To: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>, healeys
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 problem ever!
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]=
mprd11.prod.outlook.com>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

Tom,
Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled the =
float bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its ri=
ght spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years ago and that=
 was my pfonlrm.

Jean

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tom Felts via H=
ealeys <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!

Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.=
=C2=A0 Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then=
 shut down again.=C2=A0 I tried many fixes which I will list below.=C2=A0 S=
everal times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I h=
ad "fixed" it.=C2=A0 Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (=
3 times this year).

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or f=
or a car to pass.

So here is what I have tried:=C2=A0 * new coil=C2=A0 * new voltage regulato=
r=C2=A0 * new fuel pump=C2=A0 * New ignition switch=C2=A0 * Blew out the fu=
el lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)=C2=A0 * P=
ulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it=C2=A0 * disconnect=
ed the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed =
the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one=C2=
=A0 * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly=C2=
=A0 *=C2=A0 replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . =
* checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was =
attached properly.

 All this----and STILL o joy.=C2=A0 I'm really out of ideas at this point.=
=C2=A0 If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.

Thanks
Tom
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 problem ever!

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -----------------------------------------From: "Tom Felt=
s via
Healeys"=20
To: "healeys"
Cc:=20
Sent: Sunday September 17 2023 8:30:35AM
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem
ever!

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly sh=
e
shut down. Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a
while--then shut down again. I tried many fixes which I will list
below. Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and
I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time
once again (3 times this year).=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0 The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a
light or for a car to pass.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0 So here is what I have tried: * new coil * new voltage regulator *
new fuel pump * New ignition switch * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled
float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside) * Pulled the
distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it * disconnected the wire
leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the
entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one *
checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly *
replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . *
checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it
was attached properly.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0 All this----and STILL o joy. I'm really out of ideas at this point.
If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0 Thanks=C2=A0 Tom
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0400
From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
To: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 problem ever!
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAB3i7L+Q5AqBJoY++0_N4=3D_ZN2VgeCOmiaFU=3D_Y7KkDdtsDymw=
@mail.gmail.com>

The repair system, usually adhered to in dealerships,=C2=A0 of "throw parts=
 at

M

On Sun., Sep. 17, 2023, 11:17 a.m. Tom Felts via Healeys, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> down again.=C2=A0 I tried many fixes which I will list below.=C2=A0 Sever=
al times
> it.=C2=A0 Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times t=
his
> So here is what I have tried:=C2=A0 * new coil=C2=A0 * new voltage regula=
tor=C2=A0 * new
> fuel pump=C2=A0 * New ignition switch=C2=A0 * Blew out the fuel lines * p=
ulled float
> bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)=C2=A0 * Pulled the distributor =
plate
> out and cleaned and oiled it=C2=A0 * disconnected the wire leading from t=
he
> switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one=C2=A0 * checked all the sp=
arkplug
> wires to make sure they were on properly=C2=A0 *=C2=A0 replaced the distr=
ibutor rotor
> *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside th=
e
>=C2=A0 All this----and STILL o joy.=C2=A0 I'm really out of ideas at this =
point.=C2=A0 If
> Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 problem ever!

Sounds like a faulty coil or a bad/broken wire somewhere. Also check the=20
engine earth strap and battery switch and connections. What coil have=20
you fitted. If the ballast resistor (wire) is still in place it should=20
be a 12V ca. 1,5 Ohm coil to be used with a resistor or a 12V ca. 3Ohm=20
coil to be used without resistor.

Op 17-9-2023 om 16:23 schreef Tom Felts via Healeys:
> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut=20
> down.? Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a=20
> while--then shut down again.? I tried many fixes which I will list=20
> below.? Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and=20
> I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time=20
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light=20
> or for a car to pass.
>
> So here is what I have tried:? * new coil? * new voltage regulator? *=20
> new fuel pump? * New ignition switch? * Blew out the fuel lines *=20
> pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)? * Pulled the=20
> distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it? * disconnected the=20
> wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed=20
> the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new=20
> one? * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on=20
> properly? *? replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor=20
> cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make=20
> ?All this----and STILL o joy.? I'm really out of ideas at this point.?=20
> Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 09:45:26 -0700
From: Harold Manifold <[email-masked]>
To: Richard Collins <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>, healeys
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 problem ever!

Sounds like you have checked everything on the ignition system. Could be fu=
el related. What do the spark plugs look like? If the ceramic is black then=
 too rich if white then too lean. Lastly there is the ground wire that runs=
 from the coil to the battery shutoff switch. Could the wire be grounding s=
omewhere? Try disconnecting it at the coil.

Harold

> On Sep 17, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Richard Collins via Healeys <[email-masked]=
eam.net> wrote:
>=20
> Happens to me in the summer and predicted to happen when water temp on my=
 instruments hit 200 degrees when stopped. Although I have wrapped insulati=
on around the lines leading to the carbs close to the manifold which helped=
 but has not cured the issue. I do have a heat shield but haven?t installed=
 it.
> So my cure is not to drive on hot days.=C2=A0=20
>=20
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 #440
>=20
>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 10:22, Tom Felts via Healeys <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
>>>=20
>> ?
>> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down=
.=C2=A0 Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--the=
n shut down again.=C2=A0 I tried many fixes which I will list below.=C2=A0 =
Several times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I =
had "fixed" it.=C2=A0 Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again =
(3 times this year).=C2=A0=20
>>=20
>> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light o=
r for a car to pass.
>>=20
>> So here is what I have tried:=C2=A0 * new coil=C2=A0 * new voltage regul=
ator=C2=A0 * new fuel pump=C2=A0 * New ignition switch=C2=A0 * Blew out the=
 fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)=C2=A0 =
* Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it=C2=A0 * disconn=
ected the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypass=
ed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one=
=C2=A0 * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly=
=C2=A0 *=C2=A0 replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap=
 . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it w=
as attached properly.
>>=20
>>=C2=A0 All this----and STILL o joy.=C2=A0 I'm really out of ideas at this=
 point.=C2=A0 If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>>=20
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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 17:49:10 +0100
From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
To: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>, healeys
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 problem ever!

Heat shield and moved the fuel filter further forward solved my problems 20=
 years ago=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Sep 2023, at 17:41, Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmai=
l.com> wrote:
>=20
> ?
> Tom,
> Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled th=
e float bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its =
right spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years ago and th=
at was my pfonlrm.
>=20
>=20
> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tom Felts via=
 Healeys <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever=
!
>=C2=A0=20
> Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.=
=C2=A0 Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then=
 shut down again.=C2=A0 I tried many fixes which I will list below.=C2=A0 S=
everal times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I h=
ad "fixed" it.=C2=A0 Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (=
3 times this year).=C2=A0=20
>=20
> The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or=
 for a car to pass.
>=20
> So here is what I have tried:=C2=A0 * new coil=C2=A0 * new voltage regula=
tor=C2=A0 * new fuel pump=C2=A0 * New ignition switch=C2=A0 * Blew out the =
fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)=C2=A0 *=
 Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it=C2=A0 * disconne=
cted the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypasse=
d the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one=
=C2=A0 * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly=
=C2=A0 *=C2=A0 replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap=
 . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it w=
as attached properly.
>=20
>=C2=A0 All this----and STILL o joy.=C2=A0 I'm really out of ideas at this =
point.=C2=A0 If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.
>=20
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 09:57:56 -0700
From: "=3D?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=3D" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] contact

Message: 11
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:10:12 +0100
From: john harper <[email-masked]>
To: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>, healeys
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 problem ever!
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAL28cLX2vcKi0OGCw93WCnxu__Js6EacwuUJetsTWC+c2h7H+g@mai=
l.gmail.com>

On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 17:59, Jean Caron <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Tom,
> Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled th=
e
> down again.=C2=A0 I tried many fixes which I will list below.=C2=A0 Sever=
al times
> it.=C2=A0 Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times t=
his
> So here is what I have tried:=C2=A0 * new coil=C2=A0 * new voltage regula=
tor=C2=A0 * new
> fuel pump=C2=A0 * New ignition switch=C2=A0 * Blew out the fuel lines * p=
ulled float
> bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)=C2=A0 * Pulled the distributor =
plate
> out and cleaned and oiled it=C2=A0 * disconnected the wire leading from t=
he
> switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one=C2=A0 * checked all the sp=
arkplug
> wires to make sure they were on properly=C2=A0 *=C2=A0 replaced the distr=
ibutor rotor
> *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside th=
e
>=C2=A0 All this----and STILL o joy.=C2=A0 I'm really out of ideas at this =
point.=C2=A0 If
> Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75
>
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Message: 12

I am putting a modern relay into my OD relay. Done it before with both the
8-way flasher box and the OD relay. Works well, though this one only manage=
d
+/-10 years. 10 years, but not so very many miles.

Simon

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 17:25:36 +0000
From: Ulla_Sven Ordell <[email-masked]>
To: Hank Leach <[email-masked]>, 'Tom Felts'
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 problem ever!
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]=
rprd02.prod.outlook.com>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

Blocked air supply to tank would give these symptoms. I Have also had a bro=
ken low tension lead to distributor looked fine but was loose at the connec=
tor.

Good luck You will find it eventually=C2=A0 and please let us know

RTegards

Sven
Sweden

Spider in fuel cap vent hole blocking free flow of air. Yes, I have seen it=
 bring a Healey to its knees.=C2=A0 Hank

-----------------------------------------
From: "Tom Felts via Healeys"
To: "healeys"
Cc:
Sent: Sunday September 17 2023 8:30:35AM
Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.=
=C2=A0 Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then=
 shut down again.=C2=A0 I tried many fixes which I will list below.=C2=A0 S=
everal times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I h=
ad "fixed" it.=C2=A0 Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (=
3 times this year).

The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or f=
or a car to pass.

So here is what I have tried:=C2=A0 * new coil=C2=A0 * new voltage regulato=
r=C2=A0 * new fuel pump=C2=A0 * New ignition switch=C2=A0 * Blew out the fu=
el lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)=C2=A0 * P=
ulled the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it=C2=A0 * disconnect=
ed the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed =
the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one=C2=
=A0 * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly=C2=
=A0 *=C2=A0 replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . =
* checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was =
attached properly.

 All this----and STILL o joy.=C2=A0 I'm really out of ideas at this point.=
=C2=A0 If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.

Thanks
Tom
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpa4a9ffceyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Let me suggest changing out =
the Pertronix coil with a gold Lucas Sport Coil, 3 ohms resistance. Pertron=
ix has had a few coil failures--including mine, which failed on my Healey 1=
00. And especially with the Pertronix ignition, be sure your grounds are al=
l good and battery connections secure, as a bad ground will blow the module=
 on these.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>
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                    On Monday, September 18, 2023, 12:17:04 AM EDT, Tim Dav=
is BN7 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">My first thought was condenser but I =
see you mention pertronix so maybe this doesn't apply. What about trying a =
stock distributor?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">---=
-- Original Message -----<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: <a href=3D"mailto=
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 1. Re: 123 Ignition ([email-masked])<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
nbsp;  2. The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Tom Felts)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&nbsp;  3. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Richard Collins)<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  4. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown probl=
em ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Jean Caron)<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  5. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdow=
n problem ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Hank Leach)=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  6. Re: The single most confusing engine =
shutdown problem ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Mich=
ael Salter)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  7. Re: The single most confus=
ing engine shutdown problem ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; (Kees Oudesluijs)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  8. Re: The single=
 most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Harold Manifold)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  9. Re=
: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ([email-masked])<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&nbsp; 10. contact (=3D?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=3D)<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 11. Re: The single most confusing engine shutdown problem e=
ver!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (john harper)<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 12. Overdrive relay. ([email-masked]=
.com)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 13. BN1/2 PCV kits (Michael Salter)<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 14. Re: The single most confusing engine s=
hutdown problem ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Ulla_=
Sven Ordell)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">---------------------------------------------------------=
-------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message:=
 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 07:26:04 +0200 (CEST)<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: "[email-masked]" &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">josef-eck=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Roger Grace &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">roggrac=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: "Healey, Forum" &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">hea=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys=
] 123 Ignition<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1694841964791.2399389.3f9595e7=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">1694841964791.2399389.3f9595e725ca172e8ea465d1cbc0df397949b13b@=
spica.telekom.de</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">For the 6 cylinder version ther=
e is the top entry cap only in black or red.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Josef Eckert<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Germany<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-----Original-Nachricht-----<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 123 Ignition<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Da=
tum: 2023-09-16T00:46:22+0200<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Von: "Roger Grace" =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">An: "josef-eckert@t-=
online.de" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Thank you and yes looking for a 6 cyl version ...<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.avg.com/e=
mail-signature?utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_source=3Dlink&amp;utm_campaign=3D=
sig-email&amp;utm_content=3Dwebmail" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_source=3Dlink&am=
p;utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&amp;utm_content=3Dwebmail</a>&gt;<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Virus-free.www.avg.com<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_source=3Dlin=
k&amp;utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&amp;utm_content=3Dwebmail" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=3Demail&amp=
;utm_source=3Dlink&amp;utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&amp;utm_content=3Dwebmail</=
a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Sep 15,=
 2023 at 1:25?PM <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert=
@t-online.de" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; &gt; w=
rote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Roger,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nb=
sp; There is a side entry cap available for 123 Ignition 4 cylinders, but a=
s<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; you said its a Bosch/Beru cap looking di=
fferent to a LUCAS cap.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  <br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Josef Eckert<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Germany<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  <br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; -----Original-Na=
chricht-----<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Betreff: [Healeys] 123 Igniti=
on<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Datum: 2023-09-15T21:52:07+0200<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Von: "Roger Grace" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace=
@telus.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;m=
ailto:[email-masked]&gt; &gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; An: "Hea=
leys" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt=
; &gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; =
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Wonde=
ring if anyone is aware of, or if they even exist, of a source of a<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; side entry cap that fits a 123 distributor ? This=
 supposed to be a<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; standard Bosch cap ?<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Just trying to keep things looking a little o=
riginal ...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Tkx<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&nbsp; rg<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &lt;<=
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=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tomf=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: healeys &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">hea=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Healeys] Th=
e single most confusing engine shutdown problem<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1287430440.5210296.16=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Was our driving a while ba=
ck, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down. Let it sit for a while and =
she would start and run for a while--then shut down again. I tried many fix=
es which I will list below. Several times after the fixes she went for mile=
s and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AA=
A tow time once again (3 times this year). <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling wa=
iting for a light or for a car to pass. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">So here is what I have tried: * new coil * new voltage r=
egulator * new fuel pump * New ignition switch * Blew out the fuel lines * =
pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside) * Pulled the distrib=
utor plate out and cleaned and oiled it * disconnected the wire leading fro=
m the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cuto=
ff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one * checked all the sparkpl=
ug wires to make sure they were on properly * replaced the distributor roto=
r *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside th=
e distributor to make sure it was attached properly. <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">All this----and STILL o joy. I'm really out=
 of ideas at this point. If anyone has any ideas for me to check please sha=
re them. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tom <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-------------- next pa=
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te: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:06:26 +0000<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Richard=
 Collins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">To: Tom Felts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Cc: healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; problem ever!<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
prod.outlook.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">CH3PR19MB8088831A52A75=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type:=
 text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Does it do it only in summer type warm weather ?<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">If so, I?d say vapor lock of fuel system.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Happens to me in the summer and predicted to happen when water temp on my=
 instruments hit 200 degrees when stopped. Although I have wrapped insulati=
on around the lines leading to the carbs close to the manifold which helped=
 but has not cured the issue. I do have a heat shield but haven?t installed=
 it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So my cure is not to drive on hot days.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Richard C<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">BN7 #440<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sep 17, 2023, at 10:22, Tom Felts via He=
aleys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Was our driving a w=
hile back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.&nbsp; Let it sit for=
 a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.&nbs=
p; I tried many fixes which I will list below.&nbsp; Several times after th=
e fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.&nbsp; =
Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The last 2 shutdown tim=
es came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So here is what I have trie=
d:&nbsp; * new coil&nbsp; * new voltage regulator&nbsp; * new fuel pump&nbs=
p; * New ignition switch&nbsp; * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bow=
ls and cleaned them (no debris inside)&nbsp; * Pulled the distributor plate=
 out and cleaned and oiled it&nbsp; * disconnected the wire leading from th=
e battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff s=
witch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one&nbsp; * checked all the spark=
plug wires to make sure they were on properly&nbsp; *&nbsp; replaced the di=
stributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground =
wire inside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> All this----and STILL o joy.&=
nbsp; I'm really out of ideas at this point.&nbsp; If anyone has any ideas =
for me to check please share them.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Thanks<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 17 Se=
p 2023 16:13:12 +0000<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Jean Caron &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">To: Tom Felts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, healeys=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most co=
nfusing engine shutdown<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; proble=
m ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:DS7PR11MB60785FF5AFB151F1FA898928D1F4=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]=
ok.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252"<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tom,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jus=
t out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you have pulled the flo=
at bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its right=
 spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years ago and that wa=
s my pfonlrm.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jean<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my Bell Samsung=
 device over Canada?s largest network.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">__________=
______________________<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Healeys &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Tom Felts via Healey=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Sund=
ay, September 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: healeys &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Heale=
ys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Was our driving a while back, engine =
purring, and suddenly she shut down.&nbsp; Let it sit for a while and she w=
ould start and run for a while--then shut down again.&nbsp; I tried many fi=
xes which I will list below.&nbsp; Several times after the fixes she went f=
or miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.&nbsp; Nope-----yesterday=
----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The last 2 shutdown times came when she=
 was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So here is what I have tried:&nbsp; * new c=
oil&nbsp; * new voltage regulator&nbsp; * new fuel pump&nbsp; * New ignitio=
n switch&nbsp; * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned t=
hem (no debris inside)&nbsp; * Pulled the distributor plate out and cleaned=
 and oiled it&nbsp; * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutoff=
 switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replaced=
 the Pertronix with a new one&nbsp; * checked all the sparkplug wires to ma=
ke sure they were on properly&nbsp; *&nbsp; replaced the distributor rotor =
*Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the =
distributor to make sure it was attached properly.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> All this----and STILL o joy.&nbsp; I'm really=
 out of ideas at this point.&nbsp; If anyone has any ideas for me to check =
please share them.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tha=
nks<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-------------- =
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><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 5<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 16:25:30 +0000<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Fr=
om: "Hank Leach" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">T=
o: "'Tom Felts'" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Cc: "'healeys'" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutd=
own<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; problem ever!<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:e371d90c88bc47e063be639b952=
ee4fdc5424c74@webmail" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">e371d90c88bc47e06=
3be639b952ee4fdc5424c74@webmail</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-T=
ype: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Spider in fuel cap vent hole blocking free flow of air. Yes, I=
 have<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">seen it bring a Healey to its knees. Hank<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ----=
-------------------------------------From: "Tom Felts via<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Healeys" <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "healeys"<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Cc: <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Sunday September 17 2023 8:3=
0:35AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusi=
ng engine shutdown problem<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">ever!<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; Was our driving a while =
back, engine purring, and suddenly she<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">shut down.=
 Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">while--then shut down again. I tried many fixes which I will list<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">below. Several times after the fixes she went for=
 miles and miles and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I thought I had "fixed" it. =
Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">once ag=
ain (3 times this year).&nbsp;  <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; The last =
2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">light or for a car to pass.&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp=
; So here is what I have tried: * new coil * new voltage regulator *<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">new fuel pump * New ignition switch * Blew out the fuel=
 lines * pulled<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">float bowls and cleaned them (no =
debris inside) * Pulled the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">distributor plate out=
 and cleaned and oiled it * disconnected the wire<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix wi=
th a new one *<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">checked all the sparkplug wires to=
 make sure they were on properly *<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">replaced the d=
istributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . *<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">was attached properly.&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&nbsp; All this----and STILL o joy. I'm really out of ideas at this poin=
t.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If anyone has any ideas for me to check please=
 share them.&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Thanks&nbsp; Tom<br></=
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tr">Message: 6<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:25:21 -0=
400<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mi=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Tom Felts &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tomfelts@wind=
stream.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] The sin=
gle most confusing engine shutdown<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; problem ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAB3i7L+Q5AqBJoY++0_N4=3D_ZN2VgeCOmiaFU=3D_=
[email-masked]&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: tex=
t/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">With all due respects Tom this sounds like the perfect situation where=
 my<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">favorite adage applies.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">"*Diagnosis BEFORE repair"*.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The repair syst=
em, usually adhered to in dealerships,&nbsp; of "throw parts at<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">it until the problem is resolved" is the corolary of that pr=
ocess.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Some questions:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
1. When the engine stops have you check for spark at a plug lead?<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">2. When the engine stops have you checked for fuel deliver=
y at the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">carburetors?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">3=
. When you attempt a restart does the cranking sound normal?<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">4. Does the engine restart after everything cools down?<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Almost certainly you will get the wrong answer to one of=
 the above<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">questions (very unlikely more than one=
) and then you have something to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">direct your atte=
ntion to.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">M<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun., Sep. 17, 2023, 11:17 a.m. Tom Felts via Heal=
eys, &lt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Was our driving =
a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a whil=
e--then shut<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; down again.&nbsp; I tried many =
fixes which I will list below.&nbsp; Several times<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fi=
xed"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; it.&nbsp; Nope-----yesterday----it was =
AAA tow time once again (3 times this<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; year).=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The last 2 s=
hutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; for a car to pass.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So here is what I have tried:&nbsp; * new coil&nbsp=
; * new voltage regulator&nbsp; * new<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fuel p=
ump&nbsp; * New ignition switch&nbsp; * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled fl=
oat<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside=
)&nbsp; * Pulled the distributor plate<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; out a=
nd cleaned and oiled it&nbsp; * disconnected the wire leading from the<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed th=
e entire battery cutoff<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; switch * replaced th=
e Pertronix with a new one&nbsp; * checked all the sparkplug<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; wires to make sure they were on properly&nbsp; *&nbsp; rep=
laced the distributor rotor<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Replaced the di=
stributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; distributor to make sure it was attached properly.<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; All this----and =
STILL o joy.&nbsp; I'm really out of ideas at this point.&nbsp; If<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; anyone has any ideas for me to check please share th=
em.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ___________=
____________________________________<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Support=
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e: 7<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:33:23 +0200<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Kees Oudesluijs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs=
@chello.nl" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdow=
n<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; problem ever!<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:3c2a63d0-c6da-4d2f-a743-7c17d=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">3c2a63d0-c6da-4d2f-a7=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: t=
ext/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds like a faulty coil or a bad/broken wire so=
mewhere. Also check the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">engine earth strap and b=
attery switch and connections. What coil have <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">yo=
u fitted. If the ballast resistor (wire) is still in place it should <br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">be a 12V ca. 1,5 Ohm coil to be used with a resistor o=
r a 12V ca. 3Ohm <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">coil to be used without resisto=
r.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Op 17-9-2023 om 16:=
23 schreef Tom Felts via Healeys:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Was our dr=
iving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut <br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; down.? Let it sit for a while and she would start and run fo=
r a <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; while--then shut down again.? I tried m=
any fixes which I will list <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; below.? Several=
 times after the fixes she went for miles and miles and <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA =
tow time <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; once again (3 times this year).<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The last 2 shut=
down times came when she was idling waiting for a light <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; or for a car to pass.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So here is what I have tried:? * new coil? * new vol=
tage regulator? * <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; new fuel pump? * New igni=
tion switch? * Blew out the fuel lines * <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; pu=
lled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)? * Pulled the <br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it? * d=
isconnected the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; wire leading from the batte=
ry cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; th=
e entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new <br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; one? * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure=
 they were on <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; properly? *? replaced the dis=
tributor rotor *Replaced the distributor <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ca=
p . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make <br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; sure it was attached properly.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ?All this----and STILL o joy.? I'=
m really out of ideas at this point.? <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; If an=
yone has any ideas for me to check please share them.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; Tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; _____=
__________________________________________<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; S=
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ate: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 09:45:26 -0700<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Harold=
 Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Richar=
d Collins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Cc: Tom Felts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, healeys<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing en=
gine shutdown<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; problem ever!<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:80D24B39-CA08-4C2=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">80D24B39-=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Con=
tent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds like you have checked everything on the ignition =
system. Could be fuel related. What do the spark plugs look like? If the ce=
ramic is black then too rich if white then too lean. Lastly there is the gr=
ound wire that runs from the coil to the battery shutoff switch. Could the =
wire be grounding somewhere? Try disconnecting it at the coil.<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Harold<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Sep 17, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Richard Collins=
 via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ? Does it do it only in summe=
r type warm weather ?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; If so, I?d say vapor l=
ock of fuel system.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Happens to me in the sum=
mer and predicted to happen when water temp on my instruments hit 200 degre=
es when stopped. Although I have wrapped insulation around the lines leadin=
g to the carbs close to the manifold which helped but has not cured the iss=
ue. I do have a heat shield but haven?t installed it.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; So my cure is not to drive on hot days.&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Regards,<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; Richard C<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; BN7 #440<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sep 17, 2023, a=
t 10:22, Tom Felts via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; =
?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Was our driving a while back, engine p=
urring, and suddenly she shut down.&nbsp; Let it sit for a while and she wo=
uld start and run for a while--then shut down again.&nbsp; I tried many fix=
es which I will list below.&nbsp; Several times after the fixes she went fo=
r miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.&nbsp; Nope-----yesterday-=
---it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).&nbsp; <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; The last 2 shutdo=
wn times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; So =
here is what I have tried:&nbsp; * new coil&nbsp; * new voltage regulator&n=
bsp; * new fuel pump&nbsp; * New ignition switch&nbsp; * Blew out the fuel =
lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)&nbsp; * Pull=
ed the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it&nbsp; * disconnected =
the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the=
 entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one&nbsp;=
 * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly&nbsp;=
 *&nbsp; replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * c=
hecked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was att=
ached properly.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; All this----and STILL o joy.&nbsp; I'm really out of idea=
s at this point.&nbsp; If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share=
 them.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&g=
t; Thanks<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
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iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 9<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 17:49:10 +0100<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Fr=
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t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Jean Caron &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vintage_r=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">vintage=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Tom=
 Felts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, healeys<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutd=
own<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; problem ever!<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:41324925-6D28-45E5-92AA-FEE=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">41324925-6D28-=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Con=
tent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Heat shield and moved the fuel filter further forward so=
lved my problems 20 years ago <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my=
 iPhone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On 17 Sep=
 2023, at 17:41, Jean Caron &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restorat=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">vintage_roadster_restor=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Tom,<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, would you h=
ave pulled the float bowl cover off and not refitted it with the serrated w=
asher in its right spot. I had similar situation happened to me several yea=
rs ago and that was my pfonlrm.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Jean<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest networ=
k.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounc=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Tom Felts via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: Sunday, Septemb=
er 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: healeys &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">hea=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: [Healey=
s] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Was our driving a whil=
e back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.&nbsp; Let it sit for a =
while and she would start and run for a while--then shut down again.&nbsp; =
I tried many fixes which I will list below.&nbsp; Several times after the f=
ixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.&nbsp; Nop=
e-----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).&nbsp=
; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The last =
2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or for a car =
to pass.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So =
here is what I have tried:&nbsp; * new coil&nbsp; * new voltage regulator&n=
bsp; * new fuel pump&nbsp; * New ignition switch&nbsp; * Blew out the fuel =
lines * pulled float bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)&nbsp; * Pull=
ed the distributor plate out and cleaned and oiled it&nbsp; * disconnected =
the wire leading from the battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the=
 entire battery cutoff switch * replaced the Pertronix with a new one&nbsp;=
 * checked all the sparkplug wires to make sure they were on properly&nbsp;=
 *&nbsp; replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * c=
hecked the small ground wire inside the distributor to make sure it was att=
ached properly.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&nbsp; All this----and STILL o joy.&nbsp; I'm really out of ideas at thi=
s point.&nbsp; If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; _______________=
________________________________<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Support Tea=
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r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 09:57:56 -0700<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">From: "=3D?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=3D" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeymanjim@ha=
nsencc.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: =
[Healeys] contact<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">george mcharris, contact me off list.<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-----=
-------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Message: 11<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:10:12 +=
0100<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: john harper &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ah10=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Jean Caron &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vintage=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">vinta=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: T=
om Felts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, healeys<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shu=
tdown<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; problem ever!<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &l=
t;[email-masked]&gt;<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Have you checked that your fi=
llercap small hole is open?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 17:59, Jean Caron &lt;<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Tom,<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Just out of curiosity, before all this happened, wo=
uld you have pulled the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; float bowl cover off=
 and not refitted it with the serrated washer in its<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; right spot. I had similar situation happened to me several years a=
go and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; that was my pfonlrm.<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Jean<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent from my Bell Samsung device over=
 Canada?s largest network.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -----------------=
-------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *From:* Healeys &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Tom Felts<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:23:53 AM<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *To:* healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Subject:* [Healeys] The single most confus=
ing engine shutdown problem<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ever!<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Was our driving a while=
 back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; Let it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then=
 shut<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; down again.&nbsp; I tried many fixes w=
hich I will list below.&nbsp; Several times<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
after the fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed"<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; it.&nbsp; Nope-----yesterday----it was AAA tow=
 time once again (3 times this<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; year).<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The last 2 shutdown=
 times came when she was idling waiting for a light or<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; for a car to pass.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So here is what I have tried:&nbsp; * new coil&nbsp; * new=
 voltage regulator&nbsp; * new<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fuel pump&nbs=
p; * New ignition switch&nbsp; * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; bowls and cleaned them (no debris inside)&nbsp;=
 * Pulled the distributor plate<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; out and clea=
ned and oiled it&nbsp; * disconnected the wire leading from the<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; battery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entir=
e battery cutoff<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; switch * replaced the Pertr=
onix with a new one&nbsp; * checked all the sparkplug<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; wires to make sure they were on properly&nbsp; *&nbsp; replaced t=
he distributor rotor<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Replaced the distribut=
or cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; distributor to make sure it was attached properly.<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; All this----and STILL o=
 joy.&nbsp; I'm really out of ideas at this point.&nbsp; If<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; anyone has any ideas for me to check please share them.<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; __________________=
_____________________________<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Support Team.N=
et <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
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x.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]</a><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">---=
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-<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 12<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:19:52 +0100<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">From: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "'Healeys'" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive relay.<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;000701d9e98b$2cbcb1b0$86361510$@alexarevel.=
plus.com&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D=
"us-ascii"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I am puttin=
g a modern relay into my OD relay. Done it before with both the<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">8-way flasher box and the OD relay. Works well, though this =
one only managed<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">+/-10 years. 10 years, but not s=
o very many miles.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Any=
how..it's a really tight fit in there and I thought I might save some<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">space with thinner wires this time. What does the team=
 think about the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">ampage flowing around in there? =
Is there much and is it constant when the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">car's i=
n OD or is it just a short burst to activate the coil and energize<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">the solenoid? I'm thinking that bigger wires means less s=
pace (Harder to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">bend into little spaces) and thin=
ner wires means overheating and consequent<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">proble=
ms...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Simon<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-------------- next part -------=
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br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 13<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, =
17 Sep 2023 13:19:47 -0400<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Michael Salter &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "healey=
[email-masked]" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Subject: [Healeys] BN1/2 PCV kits<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-I=
D:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAB3i7LL+x1aocw3YGPDgFF=
[email-masked]&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">C=
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Due to unprecedented demand (actually only 4 kits) I h=
ave done another<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">run of these PCV kits.<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-10=
0-engine-oil-leak-solution/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://pre=
cisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-100-engine-oil-leak-solution/</a><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">I've had positive responses from the folks that have ins=
talled them so<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">if anyone is struggling with oil l=
eakage problems this is probably<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">worth a try.<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">M<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">------------------=
------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: =
14<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 17:25:36 +0000<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Ulla_Sven Ordell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Bispmotala@h=
otmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Hank Leach &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@c=
harter.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,=
 'Tom Felts'<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tomfelts@w=
indstream.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: 'healeys' &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
The single most confusing engine shutdown<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; problem ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:AS4PR02MB84309635B1=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
urprd02.prod.outlook.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Blocked air supply to t=
ank would give these symptoms. I Have also had a broken low tension lead to=
 distributor looked fine but was loose at the connector.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good luck You will find it eventually&n=
bsp; and please let us know<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">RTegards<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sven<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sweden<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Fr?n: Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 F?r Hank Leach via Healeys<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Skickat: den 17 septe=
mber 2023 18:26<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Till: 'Tom Felts' &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tomfelts=
@windstream.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Kopia: 'healeys' &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">he=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?mne: Re: [Healeys] =
The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Spider in fuel cap vent hole blocking f=
ree flow of air. Yes, I have seen it bring a Healey to its knees.&nbsp; Han=
k<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">--------------------=
---------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: "Tom Felts via Healey=
s"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "healeys"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc:<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Sunday September 17 2023 8:30:35AM<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdow=
n problem ever!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Was our driving a while back, eng=
ine purring, and suddenly she shut down.&nbsp; Let it sit for a while and s=
he would start and run for a while--then shut down again.&nbsp; I tried man=
y fixes which I will list below.&nbsp; Several times after the fixes she we=
nt for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.&nbsp; Nope-----yeste=
rday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The last 2 shutdown times came when s=
he was idling waiting for a light or for a car to pass.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So here is what I have tried:&nbsp; * n=
ew coil&nbsp; * new voltage regulator&nbsp; * new fuel pump&nbsp; * New ign=
ition switch&nbsp; * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and clean=
ed them (no debris inside)&nbsp; * Pulled the distributor plate out and cle=
aned and oiled it&nbsp; * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cu=
toff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * repl=
aced the Pertronix with a new one&nbsp; * checked all the sparkplug wires t=
o make sure they were on properly&nbsp; *&nbsp; replaced the distributor ro=
tor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside =
the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> All this----and STILL o joy.&nbsp; I'm re=
ally out of ideas at this point.&nbsp; If anyone has any ideas for me to ch=
eck please share them.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Thanks<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-----------=
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