Subject: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive

From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 11:23:21 +0100

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Thanks to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has cleared
somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is something that I've
cruelly overlooked down the years. Seemingly I explored and took you down
every avenue, looked at every suspect etcetc...all in vain. If it's any
comfort - to you, I mean - I had the gearbox out, the clutch off, the
overdrive's clutches rebuilt etcetc and all for nowt!
Car's performing well now. Fingers crossed. If it does it again...Toyota 5
speed or swap the brute for a 964 Sport!
Simon

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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Thanks =
to everyone who replied to that question. The mist has =
clear</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">ed somewhat. Plainly the needs of the master cylinders is =
something that I&#8217;ve cruelly overlooked down the =
years</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">. Seemingly I explored and took you down every avenue, looked at =
every suspect etcetc&#8230;..all in vain. If it&#8217;s any =
comfort</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman"> &#8211; to you, I mean &#8211; I had the gearbox out, the clutch =
off, the overdrive</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">&#8217;s clutches rebuilt</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
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LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"> =
<FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">etcetc</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
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<FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">and all for nowt!</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">Car&#8217;s performing well now. Fingers crossed. =
I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">f it does it again&#8230;..Toyota 5 speed or swap the brute for a =
964 Sport</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
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From: Hank Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:41:18 +0000 hQQtPlYgs5uA4CEftnHHz+AG8cP7X1WQuDNLnmr0VLHnq4zsJ1s0IU79UBQQ9G5f+6nT1ZHRgZmy06XL52MrTtR8Fucc+4TehqvZM3U8x37wWQnhD9iQ003m

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<div>From a no-expert: I read the service manual and a passage in there =
says be sure to "return the shims upon mounting the master cylinder".. I =
wondered why my BJ8 brake master did not have shims but the clutch did. =
Note that the shims are only used on the clutch master, as the rod is =
<strong>not</strong> adjustable but on the brake master the rod is threaded=
 and adjustable. This shows the importance of the shims in proper place.=
&nbsp; Some earlier cars had both masters with adjustable rods.&nbsp; =
Mixing up the shims in their location, or leaving them out upon assembly, =
could have an effect on the working of the masters. The book is confusing =
and field rebuilds could be done improperly. Worn parts also play a part in=
 the adjustment. Hank<br>-------------------- <br><br>From: "Bob Spidell" =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>To: &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br>Sent: June 30, 2024 at 10:20 AM PDT <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch =
push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive <br>I, for one, don't necessary expect =
a 'correct diagnosis'--or any diagnosis, for that matter--when I pose a =
question to the List (or a forum). By the time I post an inquiry, I'm =
usually out of ideas and I'm just looking for a few more. Even absurd ones =
(first I've heard of this particular issue, though I'm well aware of the =
function and frailty of the foot valve mechanism). But that's just me.=
<br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 6/30/2024 8:10 AM, =
josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote:</div>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">And =
don`t expect a correct diagnosis from people who are no experts and not in =
direct touch with the car.&nbsp;<br></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: =
0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: =
10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: =
Re: [Healeys] Clutch push rod. Slipping clutch/overdrive</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2024-06-30T16:57:03+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Michael Salter" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rf=
c2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;michaelsalter@gmail.=
com&gt;</a></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2=
396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">"[email-masked]"</a> =
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a></p>
<p style=3D"margin: =
0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"position: relative; =
color: #000000; font: 12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div>Goes back to the old adage ...
<div><strong>Correct diagnosis is 50% =
of the repair!!</strong></div>
<div><strong>&nbsp;</strong></div>
<div>M</div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Jun. 30, 2024, 9:57 a.m. warthodson--- =
via Healeys, &lt;<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Comic Sans MS,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Toyota 5 speeds &amp; 964's have master cylinders, =
too.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Comic =
Sans MS,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">
<div>
<div>On Sunday, June 30, 2024 =
at 05:52:36 AM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; =
font-family: Times New Roman;">Thanks to everyone who replied to that =
question. The mist has clear</span><span style=3D"background-color: =
inherit; font-family: Times New Roman;">ed somewhat. Plainly the needs of =
the master cylinders is something that I&rsquo;ve cruelly overlooked down =
the years</span><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-family: =
Times New Roman;">. Seemingly I explored and took you down every avenue, =
looked at every suspect etcetc&hellip;..all in vain. If it&rsquo;s any =
comfort</span><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-family: Times =
New Roman;"> &ndash; to you, I mean &ndash; I had the gearbox out, the =
clutch off, the overdrive</span><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; =
font-family: Times New Roman;">&rsquo;s clutches rebuilt</span> <span =
style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-family: Times New =
Roman;">etcetc</span> <span style=3D"background-color: inherit; =
font-family: Times New Roman;">and all for nowt!</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; =
font-family: Times New Roman;">Car&rsquo;s performing well now. Fingers =
crossed. I</span><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-family: =
Times New Roman;">f it does it again&hellip;..Toyota 5 speed or swap the =
brute for a 964 Sport</span><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; =
font-family: Times New Roman;">!</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span=
 style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-family: Times New =
Roman;">Simon</span></p>
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