Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valve Cover badge

From: Jake V <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 13:34:19 -0400

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Brad Coxon in WA has reproduced these badges, there's an ad for them in the
AHExp buy/sell forum. He may share where he had his done, maybe they can
help?

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:46=E2=80=AFPM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.=
com>
wrote:

> Please see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my early
> aftermet finned valve cover should look and second, how mine appears.  Th=
e
> cloisonne is in good condition but the chrome plating is gone.
>
> Can the badge be replated without destroying the cloisonne and if so does
> anyone have a recommendation for where I might get this work done?
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Coxon in WA has reproduced these badges, there&#39;s =
an ad for them in the AHExp buy/sell forum. He may share where he had his d=
one, maybe they can help?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:46=E2=80=AFPM Michael Or=
itt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
>Please see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my early =
aftermet=C2=A0finned valve cover should look and second, how=C2=A0mine appe=
ars.=C2=A0 The cloisonne is in good condition but the chrome plating is gon=
e.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Can the badg=
e be replated=C2=A0without destroying the=C2=A0cloisonne and if so does any=
one=C2=A0have a recommendation for where I might get this work done?</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</=
div></div>
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From: Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 11:32:24 -0700

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Michael,

First of all, the original badge was not chrome plated, it was nickel
plated only over the base metal which is copper.

Secondly, the badge is NOT Cloisonne, it is red enamel.

My original badge was restored by Karla Maxwell of Maxwell Enamels in
Vista, CA. Karla is a personal friend, lives 5 miles from me and is in high
demand from Pebble Beach restorers. She is also not inexpensive.
Maxwell Enamels | Emblem Restoration <https://maxwellenamels.com/>

Let me see if I can contact her to see if your badge can be re-plated
without damaging the red enamel.

As an alternative, Jim Smalley found an artisan in England who was making
perfect reproductions of these badges for the same price I paid Karla to
restore my original [$500 USD]; however, my copper base required laser
welding to fill in several gouges which upped the price.

The fifth attached photo of three badges are these reproductions.

Cheers,

Curtis

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 9:57=E2=80=AFAM Michael Oritt <[email-masked]=
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> anyone have a recommendation for where I might get this work done?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Michael=
,</font><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">First =
of all, the original badge was not chrome plated, it was nickel plated only=
 over the base metal which is copper.=C2=A0</font></div><div><font size=3D"=
4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Secondly, the badge is NOT Cloiso=
nne, it is red enamel.</font></div><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><=
div><font size=3D"4">My original=C2=A0badge was restored by Karla Maxwell o=
f Maxwell Enamels in Vista, CA. Karla is a personal friend, lives 5 miles f=
rom me and is in high demand from Pebble=C2=A0Beach restorers. She is also =
not inexpensive.</font></div><div><a href=3D"https://maxwellenamels.com/"><=
font size=3D"4">Maxwell Enamels | Emblem Restoration</font></a><font size=
=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><br></div><div><font size=3D"4">Let me see if =
I can contact her to see if your badge can be re-plated without damaging th=
e red enamel.</font></div><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font=
 size=3D"4">As an alternative, Jim Smalley found an artisan=C2=A0in England=
 who was making perfect reproductions of these badges for the same price I =
paid Karla to restore my original [$500 USD]; however, my copper base requi=
red laser welding to fill in several gouges which upped the price.</font></=
div><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">The fifth =
attached photo of three badges are these reproductions.</font></div><div><f=
ont size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Cheers,</font></div><=
div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Curtis</font></=
div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 9:57=E2=80=AFAM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Please see the two attached pics showi=
ng first, how the badge on my early aftermet=C2=A0finned valve cover should=
 look and second, how=C2=A0mine appears.=C2=A0 The cloisonne is in good con=
dition but the chrome plating is gone.</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,2=
55)"><br></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Can the badge be replate=
d=C2=A0without destroying the=C2=A0cloisonne and if so does anyone=C2=A0hav=
e a recommendation for where I might get this work done?</div><div style=3D=
"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--=
Michael Oritt</div></div>
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From: Randy Hicks via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 15:16:31 -0400

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Michael, I had 2 badges for my 9 fin calve covers sone in the UK by:

Pamela David Enamels
http://badgecraft.co.uk

Excellent work, but can take a while if busy. Curt is correct, it is not =
cloisonn=C3=A9, but red enamel.

I can send photos if you want. They made a mold from one of mine so they =
reproduce from scratch.

Randy Hicks

> On Jul 1, 2024, at 2:32 PM, Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Michael,
>=20
> First of all, the original badge was not chrome plated, it was nickel =
plated only over the base metal which is copper.=20
>=20
>=20
> My original badge was restored by Karla Maxwell of Maxwell Enamels in =
Vista, CA. Karla is a personal friend, lives 5 miles from me and is in =
high demand from Pebble Beach restorers. She is also not inexpensive.
>=20
> Let me see if I can contact her to see if your badge can be re-plated =
>=20
> As an alternative, Jim Smalley found an artisan in England who was =
making perfect reproductions of these badges for the same price I paid =
Karla to restore my original [$500 USD]; however, my copper base =
required laser welding to fill in several gouges which upped the price.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 9:57=E2=80=AFAM Michael Oritt =
> Please see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my =
early aftermet finned valve cover should look and second, how mine =
appears.  The cloisonne is in good condition but the chrome plating is =
gone.
>=20
> Can the badge be replated without destroying the cloisonne and if so =
does anyone have a recommendation for where I might get this work done?
>=20
> =
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Michael, I had 2 badges for my 9 fin calve covers sone in the =
UK by:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Pamela David =
Enamels<div class=3D""><u class=3D""><a href=3D"http://badgecraft.co.uk" =
class=3D"">http://badgecraft.co.uk</a></u></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Excellent work, but can take a while if =
busy. Curt is correct, it is not cloisonn=C3=A9, but red =
enamel.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I can =
send photos if you want. They made a mold from one of mine so they =
reproduce from scratch.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Randy Hicks</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 1, 2024, at 2:32 PM, Curtis Arndt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">Michael,</font><div =
class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><br class=3D""></font></div><div =
class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">First of all, the original badge =
was not chrome plated, it was nickel plated only over the base metal =
which is copper.&nbsp;</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D"">Secondly, the badge is NOT Cloisonne, it is red =
enamel.</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">My =
original&nbsp;badge was restored by Karla Maxwell of Maxwell Enamels in =
Vista, CA. Karla is a personal friend, lives 5 miles from me and is in =
high demand from Pebble&nbsp;Beach restorers. She is also not =
inexpensive.</font></div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://maxwellenamels.com/" class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D"">Maxwell Enamels | Emblem Restoration</font></a><font size=3D"4"=
 class=3D""><br class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">Let me see =
if I can contact her to see if your badge can be re-plated without =
damaging the red enamel.</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D"">As an alternative, Jim Smalley found an artisan&nbsp;in =
England who was making perfect reproductions of these badges for the =
same price I paid Karla to restore my original [$500 USD]; however, my =
copper base required laser welding to fill in several gouges which upped =
the price.</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">The =
fifth attached photo of three badges are these =
reproductions.</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D"">Cheers,</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D"">Curtis</font></div></div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul =
1, 2024 at 9:57=E2=80=AFAM Michael Oritt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" class=3D"">Please see the two attached =
pics showing first, how the badge on my early aftermet&nbsp;finned valve =
cover should look and second, how&nbsp;mine appears.&nbsp; The cloisonne =
is in good condition but the chrome plating is gone.</div><div =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" class=3D"">Can the badge be =
replated&nbsp;without destroying the&nbsp;cloisonne and if so does =
anyone&nbsp;have a recommendation for where I might get this work =
done?</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" =
class=3D"">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div>
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:02:49 -0400

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Jake--

Just want to let you know that I made contact with Brad last night and
bought a plaque for the valve cover from him today.  He said he won't be
able to send it for a week or so as he is away from home but he sent me a
pic and it looked good.

Thanks for the info--Michael

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 1:34=E2=80=AFPM Jake V <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

> Brad Coxon in WA has reproduced these badges, there's an ad for them in
> the AHExp buy/sell forum. He may share where he had his done, maybe they
> can help?
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:46=E2=80=AFPM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmai=
l.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Please see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my earl=
y
>> aftermet finned valve cover should look and second, how mine appears.  T=
he
>> Can the badge be replated without destroying the cloisonne and if so doe=
s
>> anyone have a recommendation for where I might get this work done?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Jake-=
-</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Just want to let you know t=
hat I made contact with Brad last night and bought a plaque for the valve c=
over from him today.=C2=A0 He said he won&#39;t be able to send it for a we=
ek or so as he is away=C2=A0from home but he sent me a pic and it looked go=
od.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Thanks=C2=A0for the info-=
-Michael</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 1:34=E2=80=AFPM Jake V &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bra=
d Coxon in WA has reproduced these badges, there&#39;s an ad for them in th=
e AHExp buy/sell forum. He may share where he had his done, maybe they can =
help?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:46=E2=80=AFPM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">P=
lease see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my early af=
termet=C2=A0finned valve cover should look and second, how=C2=A0mine appear=
s.=C2=A0 The cloisonne is in good condition but the chrome plating is gone.=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Can the badge =
be replated=C2=A0without destroying the=C2=A0cloisonne and if so does anyon=
e=C2=A0have a recommendation for where I might get this work done?</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</di=
v></div>
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Excellent, glad to help.
Jake

On Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 9:03 PM Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 1:34=E2=80=AFPM Jake V <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:46=E2=80=AFPM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gma=
il.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my
>>> early aftermet finned valve cover should look and second, how mine
gone.
>>>
>>> Can the badge be replated without destroying the cloisonne and if so

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<div dir=3D"auto">Excellent, glad to help.<div dir=3D"auto">Jake</div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tu=
e, Jul 2, 2024, 9:03 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@g=
mail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:=
#3333ff">Jake--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Just want to =
let you know that I made contact with Brad last night and bought a plaque f=
or the valve cover from him today.=C2=A0 He said he won&#39;t be able to se=
nd it for a week or so as he is away=C2=A0from home but he sent me a pic an=
d it looked good.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Thanks=C2=
=A0for the info--Michael</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 1:34=E2=80=AFPM Jake V=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Coxon in WA has reproduc=
ed these badges, there&#39;s an ad for them in the AHExp buy/sell forum. He=
 may share where he had his done, maybe they can help?</div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 =
at 12:46=E2=80=AFPM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Please=
 see the two attached pics showing first, how the badge on my early afterme=
t=C2=A0finned valve cover should look and second, how=C2=A0mine appears.=C2=
=A0 The cloisonne is in good condition but the chrome plating is gone.</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Can the badge be re=
plated=C2=A0without destroying the=C2=A0cloisonne and if so does anyone=C2=
=A0have a recommendation for where I might get this work done?</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div>=
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