From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 7 15:17:34 2008 From: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net To: healeys@autox.team.net, spridgets@autox.team.net, Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 16:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Mg-t] SF Bay Area Britmeet Moves to new venue for 2008 THE BRITISH CAR MEET b" 2008 Sierra Point Marina b" Brisbane, CA Saturday & Sunday b" September 6th & 7th Join us for one of the most historic British automotive events in California at our new dockside venue at the Sierra Point Marina. This is essentially the popular Palo Alto meet in ia new location. Over 400 quirky, classic & thoroughly lovable British cars are once again expected to grace the lawn and adjacent parking area in Brisbane, California. We are also expecting another great display of automotive oddities provided by the Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend & park for free. b" SUNDAY SHOW - SEPTEMBER 7th Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the Marina. Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods and works-in-progress are as welcome as Concours quality show cars. British food, jazz, & more fun than you'll be able to tolerate! Awards in many classes. There will be no preregistration - all entrants will receive a commemorative gift. Cars will be placed at 9:00AM and the fun goes on all day. The registration fee is still $25 per car at the gate. b" SATURDAY TOUR - SEPTEMBER 6th The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at the Sierra Point Marina boathouse (the same place as the Sunday Car Show) and winds through the hills to the sea. Itbs no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as show them. We will be sending cars off between 9:00AM and 10:30AM. A map will be provided. The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we will be kicking tyres and telling tall tales in the car park well into the afternoon. b" DIRECTIONS: The Brisbane Marina is lacated just east of the Bayshore Freeway (101) between San Francisco and the SF Airport/Highway 380. Just take the Sierra Point Exit and follow the signs to the Marina. Trailer parking will be available on-site. Call for information: 310-392-6605 e-mail: Sierra Point Marina Britmeet _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 10 15:21:15 2008 From: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net To: mg-t@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:20:31 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Mg-t] Fiat powered TD on Craigslist LA - $5,900!!! Hey Gang, Cheap unusual converted TD available - looks OK, wire wheels Found on LA Craigslist - looks like a reasonable deal - Has Fiat Twin cam four!!! Only wants $5,900 for it Best, Rick Feibusch British Car Network see it here: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/633991209.html 1952 MG TD - - $5,900 Very good original body Fiat engine (yes fiat) Incorrect seats and gauges 805 300 7825 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 12:52:52 2008 From: "Norman Cay" To: "Mg list" , "Mg-T list" , Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:52:45 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] 1953 MG-TD I have 1953 MG-TD Ser. 29757 that I acquired to complete the restoration. I have come to the realization that I will never get around to it. If anyone is interested in purchasing it, please contact me off the list. Car is located in Volcano, CA. no rust, body and frame excellent. Engine is disassembled, numbers match. For pics go to: http://picasaweb.google.com/normcay/MGpics?authkey=OwuF6YpwLjQ Norm Cay, TD, Healey 100 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 16:38:16 2008 From: lordshill@aol.com To: Mg-t@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:38:37 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] 1953 TD Crankshaft I'm hoping that someone on this list may have a good crankshaft.? When I restored the TD I had the connecting bearings taken down to .20; the mains to .10 and the cylinders to .60.? I had a problem with the connecting rod bearings and two of them scored up real bad.? At this point I am trying to decide if I should have the connecting rod bearings taken down to .40.? Or Should I just buy a new Crank.? Thanks for any help.. Roy _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 17:38:31 2008 From: Lee Streepey To: ">" , " To: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:42:38 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] [mg-t] British Bash British Bash The 24th annual British Bash is coming June 6 & 7th! This plus the sunny weather, top down weather, driving weather is a big reason to get your car out and running... to sign up for Pre-Registration which ends in just 17 days! Pre-Registration BONUS ends soon! Don't miss your chance to save up to 30% on your registration by entering now! If you pre register you also receive a Dash Plaque, this is the ONLY way to get one! No waiting in a registration line, drive in and enjoy the show, VIP service! Register NOW online at www.BritishBash.com Featured Marque This years Featured Marque is Healey, featuring Austin Healey's, Jensen Healey's, Nash Healey and the Original Healey brand that started it all. Show within a Show: As a huge success the Bash last year featured it's first Show within a Show, with the gathering of the North American Spitfire Squadron. Due to the overwhelming success, this year the Jaguar Drivers Club Area 51 2008 Jaguar Concours will be held at this years Bash. So as an added bonus you get a show within a show! Don't sit on the side lines and let another year pass you by! Come support the British Bash, remember this benefits St. Joseph's Children's home and last year we raised over $4,000 for St. Joe's and the Children! Help us top it this year! For more info visit the website at www.BritishBash.com or contact Craig Holmes at: cbhlouky@bellsouth.net . . . . _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 17 23:01:15 2008 From: "Craig" To: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:56:21 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] [mg-t] British Bash Located in louisville, Kentucky! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig" To: Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:42 PM Subject: [mg-t] British Bash > British Bash > > > The 24th annual British Bash is coming June 6 & 7th! > > This plus the sunny weather, top down weather, driving weather is a big > reason to get your car out and running... to sign up for Pre-Registration > which ends in just 17 days! > > Pre-Registration BONUS ends soon! > > Don't miss your chance to save up to 30% on your registration by entering > now! > If you pre register you also receive a Dash Plaque, this is the ONLY way > to get one! > No waiting in a registration line, drive in and enjoy the show, VIP > service! > Register NOW online at www.BritishBash.com > > > Featured Marque > This years Featured Marque is Healey, featuring Austin Healey's, Jensen > Healey's, Nash Healey and the Original Healey brand that started it all. > > Show within a Show: > As a huge success the Bash last year featured it's first Show within a > Show, with the gathering of the North American Spitfire Squadron. Due to > the overwhelming success, this year the Jaguar Drivers Club Area 51 2008 > Jaguar Concours will be held at this years Bash. So as an added bonus you > get a show within a show! > > Don't sit on the side lines and let another year pass you by! Come support > the British Bash, remember this benefits St. Joseph's Children's home and > last year we raised over $4,000 for St. Joe's and the Children! Help us > top it this year! > > For more info visit the website at www.BritishBash.com or contact Craig > Holmes at: cbhlouky@bellsouth.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > . > . > . _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 15:56:56 2008 From: TATERRY@aol.com To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net, morris@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:53:37 EDT Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal In a message dated 4/19/2008 1:42:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, rfeibusch1@earthlink.net writes: > when you recommend a deal like this (obviously a scam), you are setting > yourself up for a liability lawsuit if someone sends the supposed seller some > money and then loses it. > I for one, wonders what "name withheld" saw in the advert that makes him think it a scam.......????????? No one in his right mind would buy a TC with out going and looking at it....with an ice pick! Terry in Oakland


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(http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 15:57:07 2008 From: Mike Duvall To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:57:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal If one were to follow the logic of namewitheld (spelled wrong, is that a scam?) then he would be liable for an ebay scam because he told us the scammers have moved to craigslist. That makes one ask can someone really be an environmentalist and a british car owner? I guess you can't be either in California... On Apr 19, 2008, at 3:41 PM, rfeibusch1@earthlink.net wrote: > I did not recomend it - just posted it as a FYI - buyer beware - > They are not all scams - I just placed a decent $9,000 '49 Triumph > 2000 roadster that I saw on Craigslist to a delighted buyer who was > visiting SoCal from Alabama - yes I know that these things can be > scams but often are not - > > If I am going to be made liable for passing on a email posting from > a public list, I might as well give up this hobby completely, buy a > Toyota and take up golf. So should you ............... > > And as an afterthought - f*ck the lawyers - they have made > automotive events almost impossible to put on and are after our > cars at a state level with proposed legislation that we will > someday have to drag our "collector cars" to meets on trailers > behind our hybirds! > > > > Cheers, > > Ruck Feibusch > Venice, CA > > -----Original Message----- >> From: (name witheld) >> Sent: Apr 19, 2008 12:08 PM >> To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net >> Subject: Re: [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal >> >> As you might be aware, the thieves and scammers have moved from >> eBay to >> Craigslist. Just wanted to let you know that from a legal >> standpoint, when you recommend a deal like this (obviously a >> scam), you are setting yourself up for a liability lawsuit if >> someone sends the supposed seller some money and then loses it. > > Regards, > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 22:25:27 2008 From: "Jim S." To: morris@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal I would also like to know what makes someone think that this http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/car/646614249.html is an obvious scam. If it were for sale for $6000, I would say sure. But this could easily be a realist who knows that his car is not very original. Just a driver. As others said; never buy without an inspection, and don't send money to an unknown stranger and hope the car arrives later. Whomever is that trusting just has a "scam me" sticker pasted on his forehead. Don't shoot the messenger below in this case. He or she is just being cautious in a well meaning and friendly way, and may have been burned before or read too many stories about losers picking on well meaning people. You don't have to be in the wrong, you just have to be visible to predatory lawyers, and you can become a possible victim. I understand what they mean; but, this case of a fellow enthusiast just pointing to a published ad seems extremely benign. (and I wish it was near enough to me to just drive over and see it.) Regards, Jim > -----Original Message----- >> From: (name witheld) >> Sent: Apr 19, 2008 12:08 PM >> To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net >> Subject: Re: [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal >> >> As you might be aware, the thieves and scammers have moved from >> eBay to >> Craigslist. Just wanted to let you know that from a legal >> standpoint, when you recommend a deal like this (obviously a >> scam), you are setting yourself up for a liability lawsuit if >> someone sends the supposed seller some money and then loses it. > > Regards, --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sat Apr 19 23:10:13 2008 From: "John A. Gunnell" To: , Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:35:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal In 2002, when I bought my first T Series, an advertisement appeared in Old Cars Weekly for a TC for $2,500. The car was complete except for the headlights and steering wheel, but had to be completely disassembled. As I worked for the publication at that time, I was bound to a 10-day waiting period before I could respond to the ad. The car, which was as described, sold to a man from Madison, Wis. The seller sold it for a neighbor whose late husbad had never gotten around to the car. Also, in our Fox Cities British Car Club, there is a young lady who purchased a disassembled TC just a year or two ago. I believe that she paid $900 for the complete car, or something in that range. So the idea of a person selling a TC for $13,000 does not seem like an obvious scam to me. John Gunnell PO Box 87 Iola, WI 54945 715-445-4262 gunnellj@athenet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim S." To: ; Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal > I would also like to know what makes someone think that this http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/car/646614249.html > is an obvious scam. > If it were for sale for $6000, I would say sure. But this could easily be a realist who knows that his car is not very original. Just a driver. As others said; never buy without an inspection, and don't send money to an unknown stranger and hope the car arrives later. Whomever is that trusting just has a "scam me" sticker pasted on his forehead. > > Don't shoot the messenger below in this case. He or she is just being cautious in a well meaning and friendly way, and may have been burned before or read too many stories about losers picking on well meaning people. You don't have to be in the wrong, you just have to be visible to predatory lawyers, and you can become a possible victim. I understand what they mean; but, this case of a fellow enthusiast just pointing to a published ad seems extremely benign. > > (and I wish it was near enough to me to just drive over and see it.) > > Regards, > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: (name witheld) > >> Sent: Apr 19, 2008 12:08 PM > >> To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net > >> Subject: Re: [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in > NorCal > >> > >> As you might be aware, the thieves and scammers have moved from > >> eBay to > >> Craigslist. Just wanted to let you know that from a legal > >> standpoint, when you recommend a deal like this (obviously a > >> scam), you are setting yourself up for a liability lawsuit if > >> someone sends the supposed seller some money and then loses it. > > > > Regards, > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 08:58:24 2008 From: Mike Eldred To: , , Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:58:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal I normally remain a lurker on the list, but I just had to laugh at lawerly "name witheld's" concern about liability. Isn't he concerned about his own liability? Or is he hoping the seller won't find out about his defamation and libel?> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:41:44 -0400> From: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net> To: morris@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal> > I did not recomend it - just posted it as a FYI - buyer beware - They are not all scams - I just placed a decent $9,000 '49 Triumph 2000 roadster that I saw on Craigslist to a delighted buyer who was visiting SoCal from Alabama - yes I know that these things can be scams but often are not - > > If I am going to be made liable for passing on a email posting from a public list, I might as well give up this hobby completely, buy a Toyota and take up golf. So should you ...............> > And as an afterthought - f*ck the lawyers - they have made automotive events almost impossible to put on and are after our cars at a state level with proposed legislation that we will someday have to drag our "collector cars" to meets on trailers behind our hybirds!> > > > Cheers,> > Ruck Feibusch> Venice, CA> > -----Original Message-----> >From: (name witheld)> >Sent: Apr 19, 2008 12:08 PM> >To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net> >Subject: Re: [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal> >> >As you might be aware, the thieves and scammers have moved from eBay to > >Craigslist. Just wanted to let you know that from a legal standpoint, when you recommend a deal like this (obviously a scam), you are setting yourself up for a liability lawsuit if someone sends the supposed seller some money and then loses it.> > Regards,> _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Mg-t@autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t> > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_042008 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 10:06:54 2008 From: Mike Duvall To: mg-t@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:07:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal Shoot the messenger? What is that? Just as the messenger posted his opinion others have the right to post opposing opinion and faulty logic. When you speak in an open forum, your you become subject to the opinions of others. A comment like: Sounds like another craig's list scam to me would have a far different reaction than a pseudo legal argument. Maybe I could sue the poster for frightening me away from a good deal? The legal fear was way overblown. If a local expert mechanic makes a suggestion ending in a bad result, he may be professionally liable. Someone posting something on an open forum who is not an expert charging for their advice is not subject to the same legal criteria. I am amazed at how ego centric people are about personality types. We all have to a assuage certain egos when people have a differing opinion. On Apr 19, 2008, at 10:25 PM, Jim S. wrote: > I would also like to know what makes someone think that this http:// > sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/car/646614249.html > is an obvious scam. > If it were for sale for $6000, I would say sure. But this could > easily be a realist who knows that his car is not very original. > Just a driver. As others said; never buy without an inspection, > and don't send money to an unknown stranger and hope the car > arrives later. Whomever is that trusting just has a "scam me" > sticker pasted on his forehead. > > Don't shoot the messenger below in this case. He or she is just > being cautious in a well meaning and friendly way, and may have > been burned before or read too many stories about losers picking on > well meaning people. You don't have to be in the wrong, you just > have to be visible to predatory lawyers, and you can become a > possible victim. I understand what they mean; but, this case of a > fellow enthusiast just pointing to a published ad seems extremely > benign. > > (and I wish it was near enough to me to just drive over and see it.) > > Regards, > Jim > >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: (name witheld) >>> Sent: Apr 19, 2008 12:08 PM >>> To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net >>> Subject: Re: [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in > NorCal >>> >>> As you might be aware, the thieves and scammers have moved from >>> eBay to >>> Craigslist. Just wanted to let you know that from a legal >>> standpoint, when you recommend a deal like this (obviously a >>> scam), you are setting yourself up for a liability lawsuit if >>> someone sends the supposed seller some money and then loses it. >> >> Regards, > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 12:19:35 2008 From: Walton Smith To: Mike Duvall , mg-t@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal Good morning Listers, Too much fun; but what the Ruck is wrong with Toyotas and golf? Can anyone tell me why Lucas 1130 running lamps have the tell-tail jewels, medallion, or nothing at all? I would like to know what characteristic differentiates which cars have what. waltonps 1951 TD Brentwood, California The author does not take make any guarantee for the topicality, the correctness, completeness or quality of the information, made available. Liability claims against the author, concerning damage of idealistic or of material kind, which was caused by the use or not use of the presented information and/or by the use of incorrect and incomplete information, are in principle impossible, so far as not a deliberate or roughly negligent fault can be proved on the part of the author. The email on this Web site can be affected by technical inaccuracies or misprints, for which I don't assume any liability. Therefore waltonps doesn't make any guarantee for the correctness of the information on this Web site. The author expressly reserves itself the right, to change, to supplement or to delete parts of the pages or the entire correspondence or occasionally or finally to stop the publication without separate announcement. waltonps@lawyer.com This non-liability statement is to be regarded as part of the email, from which to this page is referred. If parts or individual formulations of this text should not, no longer or not completely correspond to the valid legal situation, the remaining parts remain of the document remain unaffected in its contents and its validity. Mike Duvall wrote: Shoot the messenger? What is that? Just as the messenger posted his opinion others have the right to post opposing opinion and faulty logic. When you speak in an open forum, your you become subject to the opinions of others. A comment like: Sounds like another craig's list scam to me would have a far different reaction than a pseudo legal argument. Maybe I could sue the poster for frightening me away from a good deal? The legal fear was way overblown. If a local expert mechanic makes a suggestion ending in a bad result, he may be professionally liable. Someone posting something on an open forum who is not an expert charging for their advice is not subject to the same legal criteria. I am amazed at how ego centric people are about personality types. We all have to a assuage certain egos when people have a differing opinion. Walton Smith --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 12:58:32 2008 From: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net To: Walton Smith , Mike Duvall Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:59:02 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal Nothing, If you drive a Toyota and/or play golf - I guess the time you save not fixing a Toyota WILL give you enough time to both maintain your British car AND play a few rounds a week............. Cheers, Rick Falling apart PT Cruiser Owner -----Original Message----- >From: Walton Smith >Sent: Apr 20, 2008 9:20 AM >To: Mike Duvall , mg-t@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal > >Good morning Listers, > > Too much fun; but what the Ruck is wrong with Toyotas and golf? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Sun Apr 20 21:25:00 2008 From: To: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:25:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal Mike, I TOTALLY agree.... <> The entire thread is IDIOTIC!! Er, unless ALL Posters/Lurkers beleive that EVERYTHING posted here is 100% GOSPEL !! Oh wait, of course everything is!!! Because "lawerly "name witheld" SAYS so, right????? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 21 09:32:33 2008 From: "spook01" To: "Mike Eldred" , , Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:33:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal I think you guys are being far too hard on lawyers. They are people too. And, they are sucking the lifeblood out of our society....much less just the British car hobby! Best, Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Eldred" To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal >I normally remain a lurker on the list, but I just had to laugh at lawerly > "name witheld's" concern about liability. Isn't he concerned about his > own > liability? Or is he hoping the seller won't find out about his defamation > and > libel?> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:41:44 -0400> From: > rfeibusch1@earthlink.net> > To: morris@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] > [Morris] > FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal> > I did not recomend it - > just posted it as a FYI - buyer beware - They are not all scams - I just > placed a decent $9,000 '49 Triumph 2000 roadster that I saw on Craigslist > to a > delighted buyer who was visiting SoCal from Alabama - yes I know that > these > things can be scams but often are not - > > If I am going to be made > liable > for passing on a email posting from a public list, I might as well give up > this hobby completely, buy a Toyota and take up golf. So should you > ...............> > And as an afterthought - f*ck the lawyers - they have > made > automotive events almost impossible to put on and are after our cars at a > state level with proposed legislation that we will someday have to drag > our > "collector cars" to meets on trailers behind our hybirds!> > > > Cheers,> > > > Ruck Feibusch> Venice, CA> > -----Original Message-----> >From: (name > witheld)> >Sent: Apr 19, 2008 12:08 PM> >To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net> >>Subject: Re: [Morris] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal> >> >> >As > you might be aware, the thieves and scammers have moved from eBay to > >>Craigslist. Just wanted to let you know that from a legal standpoint, when > you recommend a deal like this (obviously a scam), you are setting > yourself up > for a liability lawsuit if someone sends the supposed seller some money > and > then loses it.> > Regards,> > _______________________________________________> > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Mg-t@autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t> > Archives at > http://www.team.net/archive > _________________________________________________________________ > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ > Refresh_messenger_video_042008 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 03:19:56 2008 From: "Krislyn Co.LLC" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:18:47 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] mg td hello folks...couple of questions now that summer is here finally got the finished car on the road and a few issues have cropped up brand new engine rebuild over the winter with ALL new everything.. right front brake "grabs" first, making stopping an issue of course cause the steering wheel pulls....just and adjustment?? front seal leaking badly..leaked at first then I installed a speedy sleeve on the pully and all seemed well now the inner seal seems to be deteriorating as the oil leak there has a blackish residue in it yet the crankcase oil is perfectly clean. lower banjo bolt on the oil bypass just cant seem to get in there to tighten it well..... is there a special tool for the two sided "flats nut" there or only an adjustable wrench to do it? Also any thougts on sealant there as I have put new "coppers" on twice now..and she still leaks?? As always thanks for the help! Rocky _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 08:26:21 2008 From: Bob Howard To: krislynco.llc@roadrunner.com Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:20:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] mg td Rocky, Adjusting the brakes is first thing to do; it's quick & easy if you have the adjuster holes in the wheels aligned with adjuster holes in the drums. Are all hoses new and in apparent good order? Tires same size and inflated to equal pressures? Alignment? Can't speak to the front seal leak. Mine was OK from its installation, though the old rope seal didn't leak either. The lower banjo bolt does not need extreme tightening. If you can't get your Whitworth wrench on it, a small adjustable would be OK. You might check your toolbox for a crows-foot wrench that fits. Safety fast, Bob On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:18:47 -0400 "Krislyn Co.LLC" writes: > hello folks...couple of questions now that summer is here finally > got the > finished car on the road and a few issues have cropped up > > brand new engine rebuild over the winter with ALL new everything.. > > right front brake "grabs" first, making stopping an issue of course > cause the > steering wheel pulls....just and adjustment?? > > front seal leaking badly..leaked at first then I installed a speedy > sleeve on > the pully and all seemed well now the inner seal seems to be > deteriorating as > the oil leak there has a blackish residue in it yet the crankcase > oil is > perfectly clean. > > lower banjo bolt on the oil bypass just cant seem to get in there to > tighten > it well..... is there a special tool for the two sided "flats nut" > there or > only an adjustable wrench to do it? > Also any thougts on sealant there as I have put new "coppers" on > twice > now..and she still leaks?? > > As always thanks for the help! > Rocky _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 12:05:16 2008 From: Dave and Liz DuBois To: "Krislyn Co.LLC" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:02:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] mg td Rocky, > right front brake "grabs" first, making stopping an issue of course cause the steering wheel pulls....just and adjustment?? Are you sure that it is the right front that is grabbing or could it be the right rear that is grabbing or the left front or rear that is not activating? Take the car on a gravel road (or driveway), get the car up to about 10 MPH and stand on the brakes so that all working shoes lock up. Get out and look at the skid marks, see what is locking up first or last that will tell you where work is necessary. I doubt that the problem is adjustment unless one wheel has the adjuster cranked all the way out. The usual cause of the problem you described is a sticky wheel cylinder that doesn't press the shoes out into contact or a wheel cylinder that has dripped brake fluid onto the brake linings. Cheers, Dave _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 12:10:43 2008 From: Mike Duvall To: Dave and Liz DuBois Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:11:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] mg td clever, I'm sure they have million dollar brake machine to do the same thing now :) On Apr 23, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Dave and Liz DuBois wrote: > Rocky, > >> right front brake "grabs" first, making stopping an issue of >> course cause the steering wheel pulls....just and adjustment?? > Are you sure that it is the right front that is grabbing or could > it be > the right rear that is grabbing or the left front or rear that is not > activating? Take the car on a gravel road (or driveway), get the > car up > to about 10 MPH and stand on the brakes so that all working shoes lock > up. Get out and look at the skid marks, see what is locking up > first or > last that will tell you where work is necessary. I doubt that the > problem is adjustment unless one wheel has the adjuster cranked all > the > way out. The usual cause of the problem you described is a sticky > wheel > cylinder that doesn't press the shoes out into contact or a wheel > cylinder that has dripped brake fluid onto the brake linings. > > Cheers, > Dave > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 16:42:29 2008 From: "RickL" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:42:26 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. Hello, I've been a lurker here for a couple of years. I've enjoyed reading about the collective ownership experience, especially the problem solving. The skid marks on the gravel road and all that sort of stuff. I am reluctantly putting my TC up for sale. I've got a co-worker who is interested. He lives in Ireland. Can someone help me give him an idea what the cost is to have the TC shipped from Chicago to Ireland? Your recent experience or contacts at a shipping company would be appreciated. Thanks RickL _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 17:54:05 2008 From: "Lew Palmer" To: "'RickL'" , Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:27:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. I haven't done it for 20 years, but check with the airlines and their respective freight divisions. When I shipped my J2 from Denmark to the US (Minneapolis) I found that with the cost to containerize the car to prevent damage and theft, the cost of simply pushing the car onto a pallet, strapping it down, and seeing it at its destination less than a day later was less expensive and more convenient than the alternatives. In 1987, that cost was US$2000. Cheers, Lew Palmer -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces+lpalmer=roundaboutmanor.com@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+lpalmer=roundaboutmanor.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RickL Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:42 PM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. Hello, I've been a lurker here for a couple of years. I've enjoyed reading about the collective ownership experience, especially the problem solving. The skid marks on the gravel road and all that sort of stuff. I am reluctantly putting my TC up for sale. I've got a co-worker who is interested. He lives in Ireland. Can someone help me give him an idea what the cost is to have the TC shipped from Chicago to Ireland? Your recent experience or contacts at a shipping company would be appreciated. Thanks RickL Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 23 19:09:05 2008 From: "Murray Arundell" To: "'Lew Palmer'" , "'RickL'" Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:01:24 +1000 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. I think you can forget air-freight. You'll find that their "Dangerous Goods" surcharges will kill you......... In the days before 9/11 I often sent MGs between Aus & NZ airfreight, it was cheaper than surface. Alas no more...... Murray Arundell -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces+arundell=ghs.com.au@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+arundell=ghs.com.au@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lew Palmer Sent: Thursday, 24 April 2008 9:27 AM To: 'RickL'; mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. I haven't done it for 20 years, but check with the airlines and their respective freight divisions. When I shipped my J2 from Denmark to the US (Minneapolis) I found that with the cost to containerize the car to prevent damage and theft, the cost of simply pushing the car onto a pallet, strapping it down, and seeing it at its destination less than a day later was less expensive and more convenient than the alternatives. In 1987, that cost was US$2000. Cheers, Lew Palmer -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces+lpalmer=roundaboutmanor.com@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+lpalmer=roundaboutmanor.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RickL Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:42 PM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. Hello, I've been a lurker here for a couple of years. I've enjoyed reading about the collective ownership experience, especially the problem solving. The skid marks on the gravel road and all that sort of stuff. I am reluctantly putting my TC up for sale. I've got a co-worker who is interested. He lives in Ireland. Can someone help me give him an idea what the cost is to have the TC shipped from Chicago to Ireland? Your recent experience or contacts at a shipping company would be appreciated. Thanks RickL Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 24 03:35:00 2008 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Benajes?= To: "'RickL'" , Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:35:25 +0200 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. Hello RickL. I guess that air freight would be too expensive, while shipping it in a 20-feet container is something very usual. Many ocean freight companies do it on a regular basis. The cost depends on the company, and on the origin and destination harbours. In December 2006, I got a car shipped from New York to Valencia, Spain, for 1700 $, plus some expenses at the destination port. A friend did the same this winter from Houston to Valencia, and he found a company at 1650 $ without insurance and another at 2600 $ with insurance. There are cheaper possibilities, like shipping it without a container (they will use forks to load and download, which is not recommended at all) or Ro-Ro, if the car can be driven (the car can be damaged while in the ship), but the 20 feet container is the way to go. The transit time from East coast to Europe is of about four weeks. Regards. Jeszs 1953 MGTD Valencia, Spain -----Mensaje original----- De: mg-t-bounces+jbenajes=mot.upv.es@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+jbenajes=mot.upv.es@autox.team.net] En nombre de RickL Enviado el: miircoles, 23 de abril de 2008 23:42 Para: mg-t@autox.team.net Asunto: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. Hello, I've been a lurker here for a couple of years. I've enjoyed reading about the collective ownership experience, especially the problem solving. The skid marks on the gravel road and all that sort of stuff. I am reluctantly putting my TC up for sale. I've got a co-worker who is interested. He lives in Ireland. Can someone help me give him an idea what the cost is to have the TC shipped from Chicago to Ireland? Your recent experience or contacts at a shipping company would be appreciated. Thanks RickL _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 24 11:11:13 2008 From: "DrZzzz" To: "'RickL'" , Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:11:47 -0600 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. I recently shipped a 1960 Berkeley, roll on - roll off, from the UK to the US. Total cost of export service, delivery to shipyard, shipping itself, import services, insurance, and import duties was almost $4000.000 US. Marty drzzzz@compuserve.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeszs Benajes" To: "'RickL'" ; Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:35 AM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. > -----Mensaje original----- > De: mg-t-bounces+jbenajes=mot.upv.es@autox.team.net > [mailto:mg-t-bounces+jbenajes=mot.upv.es@autox.team.net] En nombre de > RickL > Enviado el: miircoles, 23 de abril de 2008 23:42 > Para: mg-t@autox.team.net > Asunto: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. > > Hello, I've been a lurker here for a couple of years. I've enjoyed > reading about the collective ownership experience, especially the problem > solving. The skid marks on the gravel road and all that sort of stuff. > > I am reluctantly putting my TC up for sale. I've got a co-worker who is > interested. He lives in Ireland. Can someone help me give him an idea > what > the cost is to have the TC shipped from Chicago to Ireland? Your recent > experience or contacts at a shipping company would be appreciated. > > Thanks > RickL > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Thu Apr 24 13:34:35 2008 From: "Ed Woods" To: "DrZzzz" , "'RickL'" , Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:34:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. Wow! That's inflation! Our TF was shipped round trip from Newark to Liverpool to Newark for around $600 in 1990. Ed Woods ----- Original Message ----- From: "DrZzzz" To: "'RickL'" ; Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping an MG across the pond. >I recently shipped a 1960 Berkeley, roll on - roll off, from the UK to the > US. Total cost of export service, delivery to shipyard, shipping itself, > import services, insurance, and import duties was almost $4000.000 US. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Fri Apr 25 18:44:14 2008 From: "Krislyn Co.LLC" To: Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:43:42 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] front seal hello folks can anyone advise the proper procedure for replacing the front seal behind the pulley at the timing chain cover... i put a new moss modern seal in when rebuilding the motor last fall and it leaked badly at start up..... it appeared the pulley was not real real smooth although it looked pretty good so i put a speedy sleeve on it and all seemed very well...drove it about 20 miles and now it leaks and there is blackish residue (seal failing) leaking quite badly..... very frustrated... i once remember a lister saying "dont worry about the leaks just take them one at a time and you will solve them" !!!patience is truly a virture. thanks rock. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 09:48:21 2008 From: JohnD To: Mg-t@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:48:33 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers Like everybody else, I recently received the Moss flyer for "software." Despite almost 30 years with my TD, I have never had a tonneau and am wondering why. 'Course, the prices have gone up quite a bit over the years. Since the tonneau was not part of the original fitment for the TD and was always an aftermarket item, I'm considering the vinyl (despite the Stayfast cloth hood and curtains I'm using). My question concerns how it looks cosmetically. Is it "fake canvas weave" patterned, "fake leather" embossed pattern, or smooth and shiney like God made vinyl? I have a leather-embossed vinyl tonneau on my TR3 and am quite satisfied with it. Has anybody tried out the Vinyl Moss offering and what are your impressions. If everybody yells "Boo, boo!", I guess I'll cough up the extra $150 for the cloth tonneau. Thanks in advance! John Deikis -- Racing in the Past Lane! _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 10:37:00 2008 From: Bob Howard To: johnsfolly@gmail.com Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:32:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers John, I used a Moss vinyl full tonneau for about 20 years until it got very brittle and split at the corners. Had cloth weave pattern moulded in, but did have some shine. I worked well. Something good about the full tonneau is that it reduces wind blast in the cockpit, a nice improvement in comfort on frosty mornings. The vinyl tonneau was replaced by a fabric one. It does look nicer, as there is no shine, but it spots whenever a tree drips or bird drops, unlike the vinyl. Also seems to stretch more after driving a few minutes. Fits fine, just flops more. You might ask for a sample of the vinyl they now use. Bob On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:48:33 -0400 JohnD writes: > Like everybody else, I recently received the Moss flyer for > "software." > Despite almost 30 years with my TD, I have never had a tonneau and > am > wondering why. 'Course, the prices have gone up quite a bit over the > years. > Since the tonneau was not part of the original fitment for the TD > and was > always an aftermarket item, I'm considering the vinyl (despite the > Stayfast > cloth hood and curtains I'm using). My question concerns how it > looks > cosmetically. Is it "fake canvas weave" patterned, "fake leather" > embossed > pattern, or smooth and shiney like God made vinyl? I have a > leather-embossed vinyl tonneau on my TR3 and am quite satisfied with > it. > > Has anybody tried out the Vinyl Moss offering and what are your > impressions. If everybody yells "Boo, boo!", I guess I'll cough up > the > extra $150 for the cloth tonneau. > Thanks in advance! > John Deikis > -- > Racing in the Past Lane! > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 11:32:41 2008 From: "Gene Fodor" To: "'JohnD'" , Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:31:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers Hello John ... I installed the full cloth tonneau several years ago and it works well. In cool weather with just me in the car, it helps reduce the old air intake and provides some added heat. It is also a good place to keep things under it and out of prying eyes. After additional reading, I understand the originally only half tonneaus were installed. But I must say the full tonneau looks slick as well. Moss sells a spray to help keep it clean and waterproofed. It seems to work well. Also they sell a cleaner for the top. Cheers Gene Eliot is our '53 Unrestored TD -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JohnD Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:49 AM To: Mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers Like everybody else, I recently received the Moss flyer for "software." Despite almost 30 years with my TD, I have never had a tonneau and am wondering why. 'Course, the prices have gone up quite a bit over the years. Since the tonneau was not part of the original fitment for the TD and was always an aftermarket item, I'm considering the vinyl (despite the Stayfast cloth hood and curtains I'm using). My question concerns how it looks cosmetically. Is it "fake canvas weave" patterned, "fake leather" embossed pattern, or smooth and shiney like God made vinyl? I have a leather-embossed vinyl tonneau on my TR3 and am quite satisfied with it. Has anybody tried out the Vinyl Moss offering and what are your impressions. If everybody yells "Boo, boo!", I guess I'll cough up the extra $150 for the cloth tonneau. Thanks in advance! John Deikis -- Racing in the Past Lane! Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 12:05:03 2008 From: "Eugene D Abbondelo" To: ,"Bob Howard" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:02:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers About 5 years ago I had a tonneau made for my Singer Roadster out of a fabric called Hartz cloth and I'm very happy with it. Seems to be lasting pretty well. My only problem is that the zipper down the middle is placed very close to the steering wheel such that my knuckles rub against it when I use the tonneau in 3/4 position. Gene >>> Bob Howard 4/28/2008 12:32 PM >>> John, I used a Moss vinyl full tonneau for about 20 years until it got very brittle and split at the corners. Had cloth weave pattern moulded in, but did have some shine. I worked well. Something good about the full tonneau is that it reduces wind blast in the cockpit, a nice improvement in comfort on frosty mornings. The vinyl tonneau was replaced by a fabric one. It does look nicer, as there is no shine, but it spots whenever a tree drips or bird drops, unlike the vinyl. Also seems to stretch more after driving a few minutes. Fits fine, just flops more. You might ask for a sample of the vinyl they now use. Bob On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:48:33 -0400 JohnD writes: > Like everybody else, I recently received the Moss flyer for > "software." > Despite almost 30 years with my TD, I have never had a tonneau and > am > wondering why. 'Course, the prices have gone up quite a bit over the > years. > Since the tonneau was not part of the original fitment for the TD > and was > always an aftermarket item, I'm considering the vinyl (despite the > Stayfast > cloth hood and curtains I'm using). My question concerns how it > looks > cosmetically. Is it "fake canvas weave" patterned, "fake leather" > embossed > pattern, or smooth and shiney like God made vinyl? I have a > leather-embossed vinyl tonneau on my TR3 and am quite satisfied with > it. > > Has anybody tried out the Vinyl Moss offering and what are your > impressions. If everybody yells "Boo, boo!", I guess I'll cough up > the > extra $150 for the cloth tonneau. > Thanks in advance! > John Deikis > -- > Racing in the Past Lane! > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 12:05:17 2008 From: "Lawrence Karpman" To: Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:04:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers According to their catalog, the Moss vinyl full tonneau for the TD is only available in black. Cheers Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Fodor" To: "'JohnD'" ; Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers > Hello John ... > > I installed the full cloth tonneau several years ago and it works well. In > cool weather with just me in the car, it helps reduce the old air intake > and > provides some added heat. It is also a good place to keep things under it > and out of prying eyes. > > After additional reading, I understand the originally only half tonneaus > were installed. But I must say the full tonneau looks slick as well. > > Moss sells a spray to help keep it clean and waterproofed. It seems to > work > well. Also they sell a cleaner for the top. > > Cheers > Gene > Eliot is our '53 Unrestored TD > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net@autox.team.net > [mailto:mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > JohnD > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:49 AM > To: Mg-t@autox.team.net > Subject: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers > > Like everybody else, I recently received the Moss flyer for "software." > Despite almost 30 years with my TD, I have never had a tonneau and am > wondering why. 'Course, the prices have gone up quite a bit over the > years. > Since the tonneau was not part of the original fitment for the TD and was > always an aftermarket item, I'm considering the vinyl (despite the > Stayfast > cloth hood and curtains I'm using). My question concerns how it looks > cosmetically. Is it "fake canvas weave" patterned, "fake leather" embossed > pattern, or smooth and shiney like God made vinyl? I have a > leather-embossed vinyl tonneau on my TR3 and am quite satisfied with it. > > Has anybody tried out the Vinyl Moss offering and what are your > impressions. If everybody yells "Boo, boo!", I guess I'll cough up the > extra $150 for the cloth tonneau. > Thanks in advance! > John Deikis > -- > Racing in the Past Lane! > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 12:20:01 2008 From: Bob Howard To: lkarpman@tx.rr.com Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:18:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers They don't appear to be _all_ that difficult to sew. If one had an old tonneau that fit well, the vinyl in various colors can be found at top, upholstery and canvas shops. A company called SailRite has lots of choices. It would seem that the vinyl, if warm, would be soft enough for home sewing machine to penetrate if a needle with eye large enough for the thread could be found. The only difficult part would be getting the shape of the fascia curves right, but one could buy enough extra material to make a couple of fitting errors. Bob On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:04:54 -0500 "Lawrence Karpman" writes: > According to their catalog, the Moss vinyl full tonneau for the TD is > only available in black. > > Cheers > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene Fodor" > To: "'JohnD'" ; > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers > > > > Hello John ... > > > > I installed the full cloth tonneau several years ago and it works _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 16:32:09 2008 From: "Douglas Ormrod" To: Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:36:19 +1200 Subject: [Mg-t] Hood prop kit Giday T people This relates to the vexed issue of propping your hood up so the public can marvel at the finish on your rocker cover and the drip free status of your engine. I have looked at the web site devoted to this issue, but have not yet decided on the best method. At the moment I rest the back end of the hood on those neat little MG coasters you get with the "Roadster" silicone valve chamber gasket. I have come across this little kit on ebay - looks neat - anyone used these? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-TD-MGTD-HOOD-PROP-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItem QQcategoryZ140705QQihZ003QQitemZ130216587113QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW or search for MG TD MGTD HOOD PROP KIT Cheers Douglas _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 17:54:48 2008 From: Bud Krueger To: Douglas Ormrod Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:54:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Hood prop kit Douglas, you might take a look at http://www.ttalk.info/bonnet_props.htm Bud Krueger Douglas Ormrod wrote: >Giday T people > >This relates to the vexed issue of propping your hood up so the public >can marvel at the finish on your rocker cover and the drip free status >of your engine. I have looked at the web site devoted to this issue, but >have not yet decided on the best method. At the moment I rest the back >end of the hood on those neat little MG coasters you get with the >"Roadster" silicone valve chamber gasket. > >I have come across this little kit on ebay - looks neat - anyone used >these? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-TD-MGTD-HOOD-PROP-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItem >QQcategoryZ140705QQihZ003QQitemZ130216587113QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW > >or search for MG TD MGTD HOOD PROP KIT > >Cheers > >Douglas >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Mg-t@autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > >Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 18:35:26 2008 From: "Krislyn Co.LLC" To: Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:34:47 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] 51 mg td mark II any one have any idea on how to tighten the lower oil bypass line (flat two sides) banjo bolt.... i cannot get an adjustable wrench in there there's simply no room with the oil lines and such and a socket wont fit.. also, i have an MG (TD??) intake manifold and air cleaner in which the manifold is a cast aluminum slightly a rougher look, unlike the shinny smooth look on my TD etc.. the black air cleaner part is the same... lastly does anyone have a set of 1-1/2" Mark II carbs (or know what else they were fitted to) as I have the wrong set on my car..also looking for the larger diameter Mark II air cleaner and proper manifold. Thanks for the input as always. Rocky _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Mon Apr 28 21:41:50 2008 From: "Douglas Ormrod" To: "Krislyn Co.LLC" , Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:46:23 +1200 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] 51 mg td mark II Looking at the Burlen site: http://www.burlen.co.uk/vehiclelist-searchengine.aspx only the TD "competition" (which I assume is the MKII) and the Triumph 1500 used the AUC 578 carbs - TFs used AUC 728 Cheers Douglas -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces+douglas.ormrod=neurological.org.nz@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+douglas.ormrod=neurological.org.nz@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Krislyn Co.LLC Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:35 p.m. To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] 51 mg td mark II any one have any idea on how to tighten the lower oil bypass line (flat two sides) banjo bolt.... i cannot get an adjustable wrench in there there's simply no room with the oil lines and such and a socket wont fit.. also, i have an MG (TD??) intake manifold and air cleaner in which the manifold is a cast aluminum slightly a rougher look, unlike the shinny smooth look on my TD etc.. the black air cleaner part is the same... lastly does anyone have a set of 1-1/2" Mark II carbs (or know what else they were fitted to) as I have the wrong set on my car..also looking for the larger diameter Mark II air cleaner and proper manifold. Thanks for the input as always. Rocky Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 29 10:53:26 2008 From: JohnD To: MG Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:53:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers Thanks to everyone for their opinions on this. Anyone have an idea what it costs to have a tonneau made by a boat cover place? I saw a really neat custom-made one a while back that had a zipper along the "outboard side" too, so you could close it up all around you when you got ready to drive with it. JohnD On 4/28/08, John Quilter wrote: > > I've had a black Moss full tonneau on my TD for over 30 years and have > been > very satisfied with it. It is the embossed leather texture type vinyl and > it > is on the car all the time since this is a fair weather car and almost > never > put the top up on it. Not sure if Moss' items now are the same as I got > in > 1978 but if they are you should be quite satisfied. > > John Quilter > Brisbane California > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JohnD" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:48 AM > Subject: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers > > > > Like everybody else, I recently received the Moss flyer for "software." > > Despite almost 30 years with my TD, I have never had a tonneau and am > > wondering why. 'Course, the prices have gone up quite a bit over the > years. > > Since the tonneau was not part of the original fitment for the TD and > was > > always an aftermarket item, I'm considering the vinyl (despite the > Stayfast > > cloth hood and curtains I'm using). My question concerns how it looks > > cosmetically. Is it "fake canvas weave" patterned, "fake leather" > embossed > > pattern, or smooth and shiney like God made vinyl? I have a > > leather-embossed vinyl tonneau on my TR3 and am quite satisfied with it. > > > > Has anybody tried out the Vinyl Moss offering and what are your > > impressions. If everybody yells "Boo, boo!", I guess I'll cough up the > > extra $150 for the cloth tonneau. > > Thanks in advance! > > John Deikis > > -- > > Racing in the Past Lane! > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive > > -- Racing in the Past Lane! _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 29 11:50:23 2008 From: Bob Howard To: krislynco.llc@roadrunner.com Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:49:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] 51 mg td mark II Rocky, I just tried a King Dick adjustable spanner, the 4" size, on my engine. It fits and there is room to turn it. Billings, Hartford USA, made a similar spanner. Both of these are robust wrenches that open wide for a 4" wrench. They look like mini Stillson or Ford wrenches, but are short handled and they adjust snugly to the bolt head. You might try grinding a US size crows-foot wrench to fit, then use extension and a flex joint. Bob On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:34:47 -0400 "Krislyn Co.LLC" writes: > any one have any idea on how to tighten the lower oil bypass line > (flat two > sides) banjo bolt.... i cannot get an adjustable wrench in there > there's > simply no room with the oil lines and such and a socket wont fit.. > also, i have an MG (TD??) intake manifold and air cleaner in which > the > manifold is a cast aluminum slightly a rougher look, unlike the > shinny smooth > look on my TD etc.. the black air cleaner part is the same... > > lastly does anyone have a set of 1-1/2" Mark II carbs (or know what > else they > were fitted to) as I have the wrong set on my car..also looking for > the larger > diameter Mark II air cleaner and proper manifold. > > Thanks for the input as always. > Rocky _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 29 12:10:12 2008 From: "John A. Gunnell" To: Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] TD Tonneau Cover Listers There has been so much on this, I could not help jumping in. My unrestored but lovable Little Red Car has a very old, probably aftermarket, full tonneau on it. This is a wonderful thing and I wish that my TF had one. Mine, being old, tends to be very tight fitting at the start of the year, then stretches with heat and sun. But the zipper area on one side has torn due to the tightness and I realize the cover won't last forever. There is in our village a shop called Vintage Woodworks that does auto wood, tops, upholstery, carpets, wod veneering, etc. It is run by a charming hobby couple named Dennis and Kathy Bickford and though the "specialty of the house" is the Chrysler Town & Country, these folks do it all. I have shown him my tonneau and askked what it would cost to have one made. Dennis cuts his own convertible tops, so I'm sure he can do a tonneau cover, although perfection might take a few tries. He shot me a price for making a cover that was much lower than regular suppliers. To be honest, I think when he gets into the job, he'll probably find he can't do it that low. But since demand seems high and supplies seem low of the ready-mades, I can ask Dennis again. He tends to have a long waiting list for his skills, but if he can do multiple covers that are basically all the same, as a side job, he might get fired up to make a batch, at least in one color. Another possibility id ragtops & roadsters in Perkasie, Pa., where I stopped to do an article not long ago. They have an independent trim shop inside their facility that does British car tops and trimmings. I'm sure they ay have the skill, too. John Gunnell PO Box 87 Iola, WI 54945 715-445-4262 gunnellj@athenet.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 29 18:57:09 2008 From: Ted Jackson To: JohnD Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:57:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers Plans for custom tonneau cover, and some other interesting ideas on the same topic at http://www.omgtr.ca/technical/Tonneau_Cover/Tonneau.htm Ted Jackson JohnD wrote: > Thanks to everyone for their opinions on this. > Anyone have an idea what it costs to have a tonneau made by a boat cover > place? I saw a really neat custom-made one a while back that had a zipper > along the "outboard side" too, so you could close it up all around you when > you got ready to drive with it. > JohnD > > > On 4/28/08, John Quilter wrote: > >> I've had a black Moss full tonneau on my TD for over 30 years and have >> been >> very satisfied with it. It is the embossed leather texture type vinyl and >> it >> is on the car all the time since this is a fair weather car and almost >> never >> put the top up on it. Not sure if Moss' items now are the same as I got >> in >> 1978 but if they are you should be quite satisfied. >> >> John Quilter >> Brisbane California >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "JohnD" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:48 AM >> Subject: [Mg-t] Vinyl tonneau covers >> >> >> >>> Like everybody else, I recently received the Moss flyer for "software." >>> Despite almost 30 years with my TD, I have never had a tonneau and am >>> wondering why. 'Course, the prices have gone up quite a bit over the >>> >> years. >> >>> Since the tonneau was not part of the original fitment for the TD and >>> >> was >> >>> always an aftermarket item, I'm considering the vinyl (despite the >>> >> Stayfast >> >>> cloth hood and curtains I'm using). My question concerns how it looks >>> cosmetically. Is it "fake canvas weave" patterned, "fake leather" >>> >> embossed >> >>> pattern, or smooth and shiney like God made vinyl? I have a >>> leather-embossed vinyl tonneau on my TR3 and am quite satisfied with it. >>> >>> Has anybody tried out the Vinyl Moss offering and what are your >>> impressions. If everybody yells "Boo, boo!", I guess I'll cough up the >>> extra $150 for the cloth tonneau. >>> Thanks in advance! >>> John Deikis >>> -- >>> Racing in the Past Lane! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Mg-t@autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t >>> >>> Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Tue Apr 29 19:35:49 2008 From: JagMkV@aol.com To: mg-t@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:36:09 EDT Subject: [Mg-t] Hood Props About 15 years ago I saw the perfect hood prop, and made one for myself. Take one of those brown rubber, sort of triangular door propper-openers, you know, the kind you slide under a door to keep it open. Then cut a "V" around the middle of the top. Not too deep, a third of an inch is fine. Put it on the top of the tool kit and put the edge of the hood (bonnet) into it. It won't slide, because it's rubber. The bonnet won't come out because of the "V" you cut into it. In all, I think I paid $.79 for each of two (one for each side). Today, plan to spend $1.79 each. Four under four bucks, you can't go wrong. I have used mine for about fifteen years, and they show no sign of wear. My grandkids will probably still be using them well into the second half of the 2ist century. Craig carragan Southbury, CT USA **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces+mharc=autox.team.net@autox.team.net Wed Apr 30 06:56:53 2008 From: "Gene Fodor" To: , Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:49:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Hood Props Listers, I indeed did the same as Craig ... as they say, "works good, last longtime". Cheers Gene, Eliot Our '53 unrestored MGTD Vermont -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JagMkV@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:36 PM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Hood Props About 15 years ago I saw the perfect hood prop, and made one for myself. Take one of those brown rubber, sort of triangular door propper-openers, you know, the kind you slide under a door to keep it open. Then cut a "V" around the middle of the top. Not too deep, a third of an inch is fine. Put it on the top of the tool kit and put the edge of the hood (bonnet) into it. It won't slide, because it's rubber. The bonnet won't come out because of the "V" you cut into it. In all, I think I paid $.79 for each of two (one for each side). Today, plan to spend $1.79 each. Four under four bucks, you can't go wrong. I have used mine for about fifteen years, and they show no sign of wear. My grandkids will probably still be using them well into the second half of the 2ist century. Craig carragan Southbury, CT USA **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mg-t@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive