From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 1 02:13:51 2009 From: "Paul Hunt" To: "V8 list" , , Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 08:46:57 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! To all MG-ers, May your oil pressure not drop, your coolant temperature not rise, and many enjoyable nail-free miles roll under your tyres. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- Here's wishes for a healthy, wealthy and wise New Year!! . __,_._,___ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 1 06:30:41 2009 From: "Wayne Kube" To: "Paul Hunt" , "V8 list" Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:30:23 -0600 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! The same to all of you! May you enjoy all of your driving miles! Wayne Kube Plano, TX '79 MGB V8 3.9L EFI "Hobbes" Logan Lathe Model 1925 n5wmk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hunt" To: "V8 list" ; ; Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! > To all MG-ers, > > May your oil pressure not drop, your coolant temperature not rise, and > many > enjoyable nail-free miles roll under your tyres. > > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Here's wishes for a healthy, wealthy and wise New Year!! > > . > __,_._,___ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as wkube@augustmail.com > > Mgb-v8@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 1 07:16:38 2009 From: "Carl Floyd" To: "V8 list" Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 09:15:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! Thanks, Paul & Wayne! Happy New Year!! Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Kube" To: "Paul Hunt" ; "V8 list" ; ; Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! > The same to all of you! May you enjoy all of your driving miles! > > > Wayne Kube > Plano, TX > > '79 MGB V8 3.9L EFI "Hobbes" > Logan Lathe Model 1925 > n5wmk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hunt" > To: "V8 list" ; ; > > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! > > >> To all MG-ers, >> >> May your oil pressure not drop, your coolant temperature not rise, and >> many >> enjoyable nail-free miles roll under your tyres. >> >> PaulH. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> Here's wishes for a healthy, wealthy and wise New Year!! >> >> . >> __,_._,___ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Mgb-v8 mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as wkube@augustmail.com >> >> Mgb-v8@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as cmfloyd@chartertn.net > > Mgb-v8@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 10 09:17:27 2009 From: Barrie Robinson To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net,mgs@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:12:19 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Miata rear end Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in an MGB? I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does all sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading engines (he is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love to do the transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. So anyone been there, done that? Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 10 09:58:10 2009 From: Matt Trebelhorn To: Steve Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:57:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end Kieth is at http://www.slowcarfast.com/MG/ Not much about the rear suspension, yet. But it looks like a fun project! Matt On 10 Jan, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Steve wrote: > There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. > Keith Tanner > is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his > project MGB > GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or > I'd post it > direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and > dig on > MGE. > > Anything can be done, go for it. > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson > wrote: > >> Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up >> in an MGB? >> >> I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >> all >> sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >> engines (he >> is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >> to do the >> transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >> >> So anyone been there, done that? >> >> Regards >> Barrie >> >> Barrie Robinson >> (705) 721-9060 >> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >> http://www.britcot.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> >> You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline@gmail.com >> >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > You are subscribed as matt.lists@trebelhorn.com > > > Mgs@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 11 10:50:59 2009 From: Barrie Robinson To: Murray Arundell , Steve Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:18:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end Murray, The off the shelf is around $8.4k including freight A used Miata set up can be got from breakers for $200-300 and $10 for petrol to go get it So that is a pretty good reason At 11:10 PM 1/9/2009, Murray Arundell wrote: >Why bother to reinvent the wheel? In off the shelf IRS rear end is >available off the shelf in the UK. > >Murray Arundell >Brisbane Australia > >On 11/01/2009, at 2:47 AM, Steve wrote: > >>There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. >>Keith Tanner >>is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his >>project MGB >>GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or I'd >>post it >>direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and >>dig on >>MGE. >> >>Anything can be done, go for it. >> >>On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson >>wrote: >> >>>Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in >>>an MGB? >>> >>>I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >>>all >>>sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >>>engines (he >>>is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >>>to do the >>>transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >>> >>>So anyone been there, done that? >>> >>>Regards >>>Barrie >>> >>>Barrie Robinson >>>(705) 721-9060 >>>http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>>http://www.britcot.com >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> >>>You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline@gmail.com >>> >>> >>>Mgs@autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>> >>>http://www.team.net/archive >>_______________________________________________ >>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> >>You are subscribed as arundell@ghs.com.au >> >> >>Mgs@autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >> >>http://www.team.net/archive Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 11 13:03:10 2009 From: "Carl Floyd" To: "Barrie Robinson" Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:02:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end This guy had a great start on a GT with Miata suspension front & rear: http://www.pbase.com/speedmonkey/mgb_gt_project It was for sale unfinished awhile back. Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Robinson" To: "Murray Arundell" ; "Steve" Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end > Murray, > > The off the shelf is around $8.4k including freight > A used Miata set up can be got from breakers for $200-300 and $10 for > petrol to go get it > > So that is a pretty good reason > > > At 11:10 PM 1/9/2009, Murray Arundell wrote: >>Why bother to reinvent the wheel? In off the shelf IRS rear end is >>available off the shelf in the UK. >> >>Murray Arundell >>Brisbane Australia >> >>On 11/01/2009, at 2:47 AM, Steve wrote: >> >>>There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. >>>Keith Tanner >>>is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his >>>project MGB >>>GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or I'd >>>post it >>>direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and >>>dig on >>>MGE. >>> >>>Anything can be done, go for it. >>> >>>On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson >>>wrote: >>> >>>>Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in >>>>an MGB? >>>> >>>>I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >>>>all >>>>sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >>>>engines (he >>>>is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >>>>to do the >>>>transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >>>> >>>>So anyone been there, done that? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Barrie >>>> >>>>Barrie Robinson >>>>(705) 721-9060 >>>>http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>>>http://www.britcot.com >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> >>>>You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>>Mgs@autox.team.net >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>> >>>>http://www.team.net/archive >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> >>>You are subscribed as arundell@ghs.com.au >>> >>> >>>Mgs@autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>> >>>http://www.team.net/archive > > Regards > Barrie > > Barrie Robinson > (705) 721-9060 > http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 11 13:37:05 2009 From: cgmoog@attglobal.net To: Barrie Robinson Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:36:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end I always thought the rear from the AWD Buick Rendezvous, Pontiac Montana, Aztek would be a good candidate for use in the MGB-V8. Aluminum cross member, SLA independent suspension. Should be cheap. Now we just need someone with welding talent, time and ambition. I only have one of the three. Carl Floyd wrote: > This guy had a great start on a GT with Miata suspension front & rear: > > http://www.pbase.com/speedmonkey/mgb_gt_project > > It was for sale unfinished awhile back. > > Carl > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Robinson" > To: "Murray Arundell" ; "Steve" > > Cc: ; > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end > > >> Murray, >> >> The off the shelf is around $8.4k including freight >> A used Miata set up can be got from breakers for $200-300 and $10 for >> petrol to go get it >> >> So that is a pretty good reason >> >> >> At 11:10 PM 1/9/2009, Murray Arundell wrote: >>> Why bother to reinvent the wheel? In off the shelf IRS rear end is >>> available off the shelf in the UK. >>> >>> Murray Arundell >>> Brisbane Australia >>> >>> On 11/01/2009, at 2:47 AM, Steve wrote: >>> >>>> There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. >>>> Keith Tanner >>>> is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his >>>> project MGB >>>> GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or I'd >>>> post it >>>> direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and >>>> dig on >>>> MGE. >>>> >>>> Anything can be done, go for it. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in >>>>> an MGB? >>>>> >>>>> I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >>>>> all >>>>> sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >>>>> engines (he >>>>> is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >>>>> to do the >>>>> transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >>>>> >>>>> So anyone been there, done that? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Barrie >>>>> >>>>> Barrie Robinson >>>>> (705) 721-9060 >>>>> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>>>> http://www.britcot.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>>> >>>>> http://www.team.net/archive >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> >>>> You are subscribed as arundell@ghs.com.au >>>> >>>> >>>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>> >>>> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Regards >> Barrie >> >> Barrie Robinson >> (705) 721-9060 >> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >> http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as cgmoog@attglobal.net > > Mgb-v8@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 12 08:16:28 2009 From: edd.rogers@gm.com To: cgmoog@attglobal.net Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:15:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end I don't believe that the Rendezvous rear is capable of full torque. It is an AWD based off FWD set up. I think it only is designed for about 40% of torque. Edd Rogers A Unistaff employee representing General Motors Sales Engineer MD Business Center 31 E Judson St Pontiac MI 48342 Ph: 248.874.3503 cgmoog@attglobal.net Sent by: mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net 01/11/2009 03:36 PM Please respond to cgmoog@attglobal.net To Barrie Robinson cc mgb-v8@autox.team.net Subject Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end I always thought the rear from the AWD Buick Rendezvous, Pontiac Montana, Aztek would be a good candidate for use in the MGB-V8. Aluminum cross member, SLA independent suspension. Should be cheap. Now we just need someone with welding talent, time and ambition. I only have one of the three. Carl Floyd wrote: > This guy had a great start on a GT with Miata suspension front & rear: > > http://www.pbase.com/speedmonkey/mgb_gt_project > > It was for sale unfinished awhile back. > > Carl > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Robinson" > To: "Murray Arundell" ; "Steve" > > Cc: ; > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end > > >> Murray, >> >> The off the shelf is around $8.4k including freight >> A used Miata set up can be got from breakers for $200-300 and $10 for >> petrol to go get it >> >> So that is a pretty good reason >> >> >> At 11:10 PM 1/9/2009, Murray Arundell wrote: >>> Why bother to reinvent the wheel? In off the shelf IRS rear end is >>> available off the shelf in the UK. >>> >>> Murray Arundell >>> Brisbane Australia >>> >>> On 11/01/2009, at 2:47 AM, Steve wrote: >>> >>>> There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. >>>> Keith Tanner >>>> is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his >>>> project MGB >>>> GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or I'd >>>> post it >>>> direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and >>>> dig on >>>> MGE. >>>> >>>> Anything can be done, go for it. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in >>>>> an MGB? >>>>> >>>>> I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >>>>> all >>>>> sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >>>>> engines (he >>>>> is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >>>>> to do the >>>>> transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >>>>> >>>>> So anyone been there, done that? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Barrie >>>>> >>>>> Barrie Robinson >>>>> (705) 721-9060 >>>>> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>>>> http://www.britcot.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>>> >>>>> http://www.team.net/archive >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> >>>> You are subscribed as arundell@ghs.com.au >>>> >>>> >>>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>> >>>> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Regards >> Barrie >> >> Barrie Robinson >> (705) 721-9060 >> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >> http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as cgmoog@attglobal.net > > Mgb-v8@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 Mgb-v8 mailing list You are subscribed as edd.rogers@gm.com Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 12 17:37:28 2009 From: "James J." To: edd.rogers@gm.com, mgb-v8@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:36:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end Edd, What does that mean? That one has to de-rate the drivetrain's max safe torque rating by 40% when calculating if it is strong enough for the MG, or are you describing some kind of clutch mechanism in the input of the rear differential that decouples/unlocks above a certain torque? If it's the former, we would also have to take in account the MG's light weight vs. a Rendezvous (~2500lbs vs. ~5000(?)). T-5 transmissions are typically rated at a much lower torque than they can actually handle in a British car. Does anyone know if it shares internals with another common design? V/R James. edd.rogers@gm.com wrote: > I don't believe that the Rendezvous rear is capable of full torque. It is > an AWD based off FWD set up. I think it only is designed for about 40% of > torque. > > > Edd Rogers > A Unistaff employee representing General Motors > Sales Engineer > MD Business Center > 31 E Judson St > Pontiac MI 48342 > Ph: 248.874.3503 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 06:50:28 2009 From: edd.rogers@GM.COM To: "James J." Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:49:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end James, In an AWD vehicle there is a central differential that doles out the power to front and rear of vehicle. Typically there is 60% alloted to the main axle and 40% to the secondary. If the vehicle's basic design is FWD then the majority of power goes to the front axle. So, all I am saying is that one needs to exercise due diligence before going forward. If the rear diff is only designed for 40% then it probably will be massively overstressed if 100% of the torque is applied since the V-8 at least makes similar torque to the Rendezvous' engine. This would be bad. In research on internet it appears that it is a varaible system that will allow up to 70% of torque to a particular axle so not as bad as I was thinking initially. The engine used made about 250 lbs/ft so, you are within design when no more than 175 lbs/ft go to the rear diff. There is probably a safety margin built in of some amount. I just don't want to see someone go to all the work and R &D and then blow the diff. Edd Rogers A Unistaff employee representing General Motors Sales Engineer MD Business Center 31 E Judson St Pontiac MI 48342 Ph: 248.874.3503 "James J." 01/12/2009 07:36 PM To edd.rogers@gm.com, mgb-v8@autox.team.net cc Subject Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end Edd, What does that mean? That one has to de-rate the drivetrain's max safe torque rating by 40% when calculating if it is strong enough for the MG, or are you describing some kind of clutch mechanism in the input of the rear differential that decouples/unlocks above a certain torque? If it's the former, we would also have to take in account the MG's light weight vs. a Rendezvous (~2500lbs vs. ~5000(?)). T-5 transmissions are typically rated at a much lower torque than they can actually handle in a British car. Does anyone know if it shares internals with another common design? V/R James. edd.rogers@gm.com wrote: > I don't believe that the Rendezvous rear is capable of full torque. It is > an AWD based off FWD set up. I think it only is designed for about 40% of > torque. > > > Edd Rogers > A Unistaff employee representing General Motors > Sales Engineer > MD Business Center > 31 E Judson St > Pontiac MI 48342 > Ph: 248.874.3503 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 20:45:05 2009 From: "James J." To: edd.rogers@GM.COM, mgb-v8@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:44:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end Edd, OK, I'm following. You were describing it's limit as a % of the total drivetrain rating. While I personally wouldn't take the risk, it could probably go higher, as the inertia of the MG at a standstill would be far less load on the system than a heavier car. T-5 transmissions, rated at ~230 ft-lbs in Ford Mustangs have handled well over 300 ft-lbs in MGs and light kit-cars. V/R James edd.rogers@GM.COM wrote: James, In an AWD vehicle there is a central differential that doles out the power to front and rear of vehicle. Typically there is 60% alloted to the main axle and 40% to the secondary. If the vehicle's basic design is FWD then the majority of power goes to the front axle. So, all I am saying is that one needs to exercise due diligence before going forward. If the rear diff is only designed for 40% then it probably will be massively overstressed if 100% of the torque is applied since the V-8 at least makes similar torque to the Rendezvous' engine. This would be bad. In research on internet it appears that it is a varaible system that will allow up to 70% of torque to a particular axle so not as bad as I was thinking initially. The engine used made about 250 lbs/ft so, you are within design when no more than 175 lbs/ft go to the rear diff. There is probably a safety margin built in of some amount. I just don't want to see someone go to all the work and R &D and then blow the diff. Edd Rogers A Unistaff employee representing General Motors Sales Engineer MD Business Center 31 E Judson St Pontiac MI 48342 Ph: 248.874.3503 "James J." 01/12/2009 07:36 PM To edd.rogers@gm.com, mgb-v8@autox.team.net cc Subject Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end Edd, What does that mean? That one has to de-rate the drivetrain's max safe torque rating by 40% when calculating if it is strong enough for the MG, or are you describing some kind of clutch mechanism in the input of the rear differential that decouples/unlocks above a certain torque? If it's the former, we would also have to take in account the MG's light weight vs. a Rendezvous (~2500lbs vs. ~5000(?)). T-5 transmissions are typically rated at a much lower torque than they can actually handle in a British car. Does anyone know if it shares internals with another common design? V/R James. edd.rogers@gm.com wrote: > I don't believe that the Rendezvous rear is capable of full torque. It is > an AWD based off FWD set up. I think it only is designed for about 40% of > torque. > > > Edd Rogers > A Unistaff employee representing General Motors > Sales Engineer > MD Business Center > 31 E Judson St > Pontiac MI 48342 > Ph: 248.874.3503 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 24 09:37:56 2009 From: "Paul Hunt" To: "V8 list" , , Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:34:54 -0000 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Name change NAC MG UK Ltd changes its name to MG Motor UK Ltd - http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/01/20/375484.html http://www.mgmotor.co.uk/ Doesn't sound right without the 's' i.e. MG Motors UK Ltd. You can almost hear the Chinese pronunciation, as if the Chinese bosses over-rode local managers. PaulH. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 25 10:45:01 2009 From: Barrie Robinson To: "Paul Hunt" , "V8 list" Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:09:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] Name change I have sent an email into them asking why no "s" - Suggest we all send in emails of protest At 11:34 AM 1/24/2009, Paul Hunt wrote: >NAC MG UK Ltd changes its name to MG Motor UK Ltd - >http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/01/20/375484.html > >http://www.mgmotor.co.uk/ > >Doesn't sound right without the 's' i.e. MG Motors UK Ltd. You can almost >hear the Chinese pronunciation, as if the Chinese bosses over-rode local >managers. > >PaulH. >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Mgb-v8 mailing list > >You are subscribed as barrie@look.ca > >Mgb-v8@autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 25 11:08:58 2009 From: "James J." To: Barrie Robinson Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:08:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] Name change Maybe a simple explanation. Perhaps with the global recession, they only intend to manufacture 1 engine....... In all seriousness, though, have they done anything since buying the name? Was this a separate venture from the Chinese folks who were going to open a new MG line in the US? V/R James Barrie Robinson wrote: > I have sent an email into them asking why no "s" - Suggest we all send > in emails of protest > > > At 11:34 AM 1/24/2009, Paul Hunt wrote: >> NAC MG UK Ltd changes its name to MG Motor UK Ltd - >> http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/01/20/375484.html >> >> http://www.mgmotor.co.uk/ >> >> Doesn't sound right without the 's' i.e. MG Motors UK Ltd. You can >> almost >> hear the Chinese pronunciation, as if the Chinese bosses over-rode local >> managers. >> >> PaulH. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Mgb-v8 mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as barrie@look.ca >> >> Mgb-v8@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 > > Regards > Barrie > > Barrie Robinson > (705) 721-9060 > http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as m1garandusa@verizon.net > > Mgb-v8@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 25 13:09:06 2009 From: Barrie Robinson To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net,mgs@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:04:49 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Dash kits Has anyone bought a dash kit from Auto Car Image http://www.autocarimage.com? Or any other such supplier? If so - what quality was it? Thanks in advance for responses Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 25 13:09:34 2009 From: Barrie Robinson To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net,mgs@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:08:10 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Rover V8 thread Can anyone tell me what size and thread is on the Rover SD1 5-speed gear box shift lever where the knob goes? Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 02:10:25 2009 From: "Paul Hunt" To: , , "Barrie Robinson" Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:45:15 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] Rover V8 thread On the end inside the cabin. (sorry Barrie, couldn't resist) ----- Original Message ----- Can anyone tell me ... on the Rover SD1 5-speed gear box shift lever where the knob goes? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 02:11:55 2009 From: "Paul Hunt" To: "James J." Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:58:55 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] Name change Producing 'MG Roewe' saloons in China, shipped 500 TF kits to Longbridge for final assembly. http://www.huliq.com/3169/72068/saic-develop-class-models-roewe-mg ----- Original Message ----- In all seriousness, though, have they done anything since buying the name? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Mgb-v8 mailing list Mgb-v8@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8