From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 13:43:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33F540E84 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:43:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD17C40E84; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:42:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962 [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id qB6KaY8x015678; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:42:17 -0800 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4830c5e4) id dm0202.50b83e24.d9ff00; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:42:01 -0800 From: "Chad" To: "'Chad'" , , "'Barrie Robinson'" References: <50B4EC38.6000902@ktc.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:41:58 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3Mv8UGOvenTA80T3af+2NNDdkymwAROaiQAbtRYlA= Content-Language: en-us engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8185,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-12-06_06:2012-12-06,2012-12-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1212060137 Cc: mgb-v8@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Grose Jets again Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Testing 123... No messages lately.. Just wondering is anybody out there? -----Original Message----- From: Chad [mailto:mgb72@airmail.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:08 PM To: 'ccrobins@ktc.com'; 'Barrie Robinson' Cc: 'mgb-v8@autox.team.net'; 'mgs@autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [Mgs] Grose Jets I am a part of the latter group as well Charley. Chad Cooper '72 B Roadster -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charley & Peggy Robinson Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:37 AM To: Barrie Robinson Cc: mgb-v8@autox.team.net; mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Grose Jets Funny thing about those theing: Some people swear by them and some people swear at them. My experience with them puts me in the later group. :-( CR On 11/26/2012 3:01 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > Folks, > > I have 4 Grose Jets SU301 for which I would like to find a nice home - > Any offers? I was unable to find a price for them - D & G Valve Inc > do not have a web site - and Moss does not seem to have them ??? > > Regards, > > Barrie Robinson > barrie@look.ca > 705-721-9060 > MGB GT V8 in great nick > Aston Martin 1957 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > www.britcot.com > www.AMFClub.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgb72@airmail.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 15:24:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AB540E66 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:24:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.francomm.com (mail.francomm.com [208.78.32.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4D64054D for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:24:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunnyta.cinci.rr.com (cpe-71-67-250-207.cinci.res.rr.com [71.67.250.207]) by mail.francomm.com with SMTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:23:49 -0500 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <50B4EC38.6000902@ktc.com> <000001cdd3f2$23799790$6a6cc6b0$@net> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:23:43 -0500 From: "P. Chast" User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.11 (Win32) Subject: Re: [Mgs] Grose Jets again Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net No. Holidays... On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:41:58 -0500, Chad wrote: > Testing 123... > > No messages lately.. > Just wondering is anybody out there? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad [mailto:mgb72@airmail.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:08 PM > To: 'ccrobins@ktc.com'; 'Barrie Robinson' > Cc: 'mgb-v8@autox.team.net'; 'mgs@autox.team.net' > Subject: RE: [Mgs] Grose Jets > > I am a part of the latter group as well Charley. > > Chad Cooper > '72 B Roadster > > -----Original Message----- > From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Charley & Peggy Robinson > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:37 AM > To: Barrie Robinson > Cc: mgb-v8@autox.team.net; mgs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Grose Jets > > Funny thing about those theing: Some people swear by them and some people > swear at them. My experience with them puts me in the later group. :-( > > CR > On 11/26/2012 3:01 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote: >> Folks, >> >> I have 4 Grose Jets SU301 for which I would like to find a nice home - >> Any offers? I was unable to find a price for them - D & G Valve Inc >> do not have a web site - and Moss does not seem to have them ??? >> >> Regards, >> >> Barrie Robinson >> barrie@look.ca >> 705-721-9060 >> MGB GT V8 in great nick >> Aston Martin 1957 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration >> www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >> www.britcot.com >> www.AMFClub.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgb72@airmail.net > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/pchast@francomm.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 15:45:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677A740E92 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:45:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA86E4054D; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:45:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.0.0.3] ([unknown] [108.86.43.33]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MEM007TUSID7990@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net>; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:44:39 -0600 (CST) From: John Marcell Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:44:37 -0600 References: <50B4EC38.6000902@ktc.com> <000001cdd3f2$23799790$6a6cc6b0$@net> To: "Chad" Cc: mgb-v8@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Grose Jets again Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Phil's ere in Ark. On Dec 6, 2012, at 2:41 PM, "Chad" wrote: > Testing 123... > > No messages lately.. > Just wondering is anybody out there? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad [mailto:mgb72@airmail.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:08 PM > To: 'ccrobins@ktc.com'; 'Barrie Robinson' > Cc: 'mgb-v8@autox.team.net'; 'mgs@autox.team.net' > Subject: RE: [Mgs] Grose Jets > > I am a part of the latter group as well Charley. > > Chad Cooper > '72 B Roadster > > -----Original Message----- > From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Charley & Peggy Robinson > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:37 AM > To: Barrie Robinson > Cc: mgb-v8@autox.team.net; mgs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Grose Jets > > Funny thing about those theing: Some people swear by them and some people > swear at them. My experience with them puts me in the later group. :-( > > CR > On 11/26/2012 3:01 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote: >> Folks, >> >> I have 4 Grose Jets SU301 for which I would like to find a nice home - >> Any offers? I was unable to find a price for them - D & G Valve Inc >> do not have a web site - and Moss does not seem to have them ??? >> >> Regards, >> >> Barrie Robinson >> barrie@look.ca >> 705-721-9060 >> MGB GT V8 in great nick >> Aston Martin 1957 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration >> www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >> www.britcot.com >> www.AMFClub.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgb72@airmail.net > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mg1948@verizon.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 16:56:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E768440E63 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:56:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188434040E for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:56:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 23:55:48 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.244] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 23:55:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2012 23:55:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 10058 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2012 23:55:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354838148; bh=zflnii89SDBbFgJkvcRvHJpxDe7XTKANW+DkERgpTYk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mb58V4qJ0QOfWJZujcWZtksRM9lYsS8iLijiBvVboPCc7cA/DJX6V2aB0PtF9FRhz6No1v17i+sAMBPrwSo9swy9Lg1NsPXiFeou7tW6LTsKHzovnOr04yB5NIuZhdjjs5MFLXmiZWNEWkGTZv5erpSkWr051Aw6/pYI0+46AFk= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q4GGQs3kHnSunG9yFJ2GTFRXcbkA4hhkYdtO1kBUp9OXC0cUnwTXKu2JZVwcKIb39GfpO45eYiDyN0vzvUAbxM6waf66tCW3rN6TB+Oi/2g8wZN0m8S8B5Znfn7Hy4MSqurwd4PNoVmlvu4fS7u0bJ8ZmW6LiQlThuOTaMjIwtA=; _VJDeSVi348D.rQu9W9u.nEPDrlidlLtpKSjRynLCU7sbUDulHoS3ALPXwdI OAE5v6fuNilC072t74BAfMcRY8aOTk78ceZvDR8SZbHGIwWZNnxtad0w1CRr epA0DUHrQcfxxuFsy5LxBRIFGZuPoPfeIZEBNA5qa1FsA9.Lgoh3RIRFCww9 l2BhI4c4HYA9xSSYq4xeYnDpaQaGYL0NzmDsU.kHqwEDCiowl49PGkX8_s5e SxX179doe9j86P.MGcR8Ho0ExAypML.qx7Sb9VmfhgYw4SZ2zgEWkSIkVcQf PlEtZnEzBvk6MgXXcHCI_lJ6S_reXxwVMzd4_hIQpdg8OS_oli8SYgFdJdE1 46eRDHUJKv4iCMu4hoHisbXgy.7fGci_d98JfHrtnleM8ueHX9_y._O2ENft _BchNx0zOU1z2FW8cwwdjAqLtVOJ5Cy.TLlisBYF9bVplBvbbdW6yrQ6T73h gStQ2hfLyr20lvYpcnuknsBeeY3GLkZb4DMHmS6BGvN062pk5Bqn0m1okiGb 60ZVhQ6htfkUBtKAoLiV30srVrCOA5qmeVqFWDgjKmY_9bH4oRMdJwaaiy.S iKH9LXWmyhRzlziIe9lbYWIizp9w3E.tFOimV7.nBou3uB2ts8EK_EJomKXt V1iPFfeSquiwgs686n88gI8AEhtVpNEh7wG9afOhhOPGvOQ-- Received: from [68.44.138.78] by web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:55:47 PST UGxlbnR5IG9mIGFjdGl2aXR5IG9uIHRoZSBZYWhvbyBNR0IgR3JvdXAuLi4uLgoKCkRhbiBECic3NiBCCic2NSBCCkNlbnRyYWwgTkogVVNBCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBKb2huIE1hcmNlbGwgPG1nMTk0OEB2ZXJpem9uLm5ldD4KVG86IENoYWQgPG1nYjcyQGFpcm1haWwubmV0PiAKQ2M6IG1nYi12OEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldDsgbWdzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0IApTZW50OiBUaHVyc2RheSwgRGVjZW1iZXIgNiwgMjAxMiA1OjQ0IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiABMAEBAQE- References: <50B4EC38.6000902@ktc.com> <000001cdd3f2$23799790$6a6cc6b0$@net> <8BC6E09A-F2D5-463E-B411-AA772BCCBA3B@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:55:47 -0800 (PST) From: Dan DiBiase To: John Marcell , Chad Cc: "mgb-v8@autox.team.net" , "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Grose Jets again Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Plenty of activity on the Yahoo MGB Group..... Dan D '76 B '65 B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: John Marcell To: Chad Cc: mgb-v8@autox.team.net; mgs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Grose Jets again Phil's ere in Ark. On Dec 6, 2012, at 2:41 PM, "Chad" wrote: > Testing 123... > > No messages lately.. > Just wondering is anybody out there? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad [mailto:mgb72@airmail.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:08 PM > To: 'ccrobins@ktc.com'; 'Barrie Robinson' > Cc: 'mgb-v8@autox.team.net'; 'mgs@autox.team.net' > Subject: RE: [Mgs] Grose Jets > > I am a part of the latter group as well Charley. > > Chad Cooper > '72 B Roadster > > -----Original Message----- > From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Charley & Peggy Robinson > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:37 AM > To: Barrie Robinson > Cc: mgb-v8@autox.team.net; mgs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Grose Jets > > Funny thing about those theing: Some people swear by them and some people > swear at them. My experience with them puts me in the later group. :-( > > CR > On 11/26/2012 3:01 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote: >> Folks, >> >> I have 4 Grose Jets SU301 for which I would like to find a nice home - >> Any offers? I was unable to find a price for them - D & G Valve Inc >> do not have a web site - and Moss does not seem to have them ??? >> >> Regards, >> >> Barrie Robinson >> barrie@look.ca >> 705-721-9060 >> MGB GT V8 in great nick >> Aston Martin 1957 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration >> www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >> www.britcot.com >> www.AMFClub.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgb72@airmail.net > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mg1948@verizon.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 18:25:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA6D40E64 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:25:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587B1403FE for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:23:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (173-228-28-25.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id qB71NXiK001867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:23:35 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.35.0.121009 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:19:56 -0800 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: MG activity Thread-Index: Ac3UGPd7/DtjRdNRcU6yyXo0t7oSIw== Subject: [Mgs] MG activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Well, my MGB has been inactive for some time, while I have been sorting out the carburetors. Here is a partial rundown of the process so far: [Problem -- solution] Sticky piston -- fitted a different suction chamber; dismantled, cleaned and reassembled both carbs; centered jets. Pulled the pipe out of the jet when refitting -- ordered new jet from Moss. Rear carb not returning to idle -- removed idle cam & spring and reassembled with washers in correct position. Rear carb still not returning to idle -- discovered throttle lever was loose on shaft; peened lever, added washer. Rear carb STILL not returning to idle -- discovered shaft was bulging at ends of butterfly slot, causing it to stick; sanded down shaft to round section. The array is reassembled (again), but between downpours and early sundowns I haven't got them set up or synced yet. Missed a scheduled backroad run on the last sunny weekend, too. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 19:45:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7811740E65 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:45:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEDA403FB for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:45:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (76-191-149-182.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [76.191.149.182]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id qB72idWb000709 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:44:40 -0800 From: Rod Williams Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:44:39 -0800 To: Mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Today in Northern California was a beautiful break in the rainy cold weather we've been having. Fired up the MGB and ran around town in it running errands and enjoying the smiles and thumbs up from folks out shopping. I'll never take for granted the gift of the climate I live in that allows me to run my silly little yellow no-top car all year round. -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California 1967 MGB _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Dec 6 23:57:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F75940E63 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 23:57:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0E7403F3 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 23:56:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU170-W23 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 6 Dec 2012 22:56:17 -0800 From: Tom Daughdrill To: Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 00:56:17 -0600 References: <9CC0475A-79FA-49AD-8190-A5F6DA22677B@sonic.net> FILETIME=[F45EEA40:01CDD447] Subject: Re: [Mgs] Activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Been trying to enjoy driving the wife's '79 MGB. The car tends to leave me places, but, with enough recent "fiddling", it is been better than ever. It now starts easily enough, doesn't stall, and seems to enjoy being driven. It seems to have always wanted to be a pleasant car, and now, it may be! Still miss my Midget, though... Anybody got a good car for sale? Tom _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 7 00:23:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCEE40E95 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 00:23:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439C4403EC for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 00:22:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t49so88885wey.14 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:22:34 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ppm0o7BfxKIan9q4pg5bHUUtr3AjRB4S8awkyCojy5E=; b=eCCcbHCIhWl08qxdJh80xOx5AtDRldkQEaHWEluVPtDzDeYf0N29E1BVmcCE9rnUze Sgf+CYrePNqFhO9L+hKD10bTRXR8IeW7uVZLvvU0pq6dforeOyiV8CAcZ67GMOOHtatD eqruw25pxJHwta3pqM1YCnlu2tGaGDY7x7EqiXKspt/maiJdoIabuA1TUkT4yXy+iIIp JIw+2gvSkbspQR1zjG/I+Gharru6r7M5aBV+aNW4nWUxSSpL+U7xp3GTDy7UK9DrnE3t Jc8tK8sFZsjTRfBmhni8DYrPyHqAO5B7fCLJoGQ4V7hAmWl8FCAQfKnTVyYG1jhulQeC nkvQ== Received: by 10.180.85.194 with SMTP id j2mr6726538wiz.12.1354864954528; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.48.11 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 23:22:34 -0800 (PST) References: <9CC0475A-79FA-49AD-8190-A5F6DA22677B@sonic.net> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 00:22:34 -0700 From: Jody Kerr To: Tom Daughdrill Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Here in Arizona it's finally getting cool enough to work on cars outside. My daughter (13) is working on her first restoration, a 1970 MGB. The intent is that she gets it finished by the time she gets her driver's license. Before the summer got too hot we pulled the exhaust, the fuel system and the exterior lights. Recently we contructed one of those temporary garages from Harbor Freight over the car and she'll finish stripping the interior next. Hopefully over Christmas break. On the not so MG side (but still very MG) I'm tearing through a '69 Sprite right now that was supposed to be her mum's first restoration. But, now we're expecting, so I got left with this car taking up prime real estate in my garage. Right now I'm stripping and restoring the electrical system and dash. Next is the carbs. Should hopefully have the engine/tranny out, last of the bolted on bits off, and the external sheetmetal off the car by Christmas. Then it's blast, paint and reassemble. Jody On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Tom Daughdrill wrote: > Been trying to enjoy driving the wife's '79 MGB. The car tends to leave me > places, but, with enough recent "fiddling", it is been better than ever. It > now starts easily enough, doesn't stall, and seems to enjoy being driven. It > seems to have always wanted to be a pleasant car, and now, it may be! Still > miss my Midget, though... > Anybody got a good car for sale? > Tom > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jodyfkerr@gmail.com -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 7 08:05:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC8340E95 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:05:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from beta.look.ca (beta.look.ca [216.66.192.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0E340E11 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:04:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from e120-pool-d89a495c.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.73.92] helo=tower.look.ca) by beta.look.ca with esmtpa (user vectis@look.ca)(Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TgzTZ-0001NG-TV; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 10:04:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 10:02:09 -0500 To: Jody Kerr ,Tom Daughdrill From: Barrie Robinson mail.com> References: <9CC0475A-79FA-49AD-8190-A5F6DA22677B@sonic.net> Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Jody, That is brilliant! - about your daughter I mean. My daughter was dead keen on my cars and she was the only one who wanted to drive my old Maserati - others were scared of its power. But now my granddaughter leans more to cars than my grandson. I have a delightful photo of her helping me with the MGB GT V8 when when was about 11. Give your daughter a hug from me !! At 12:22 AM 12/7/2012 -0700, Jody Kerr wrote: >Here in Arizona it's finally getting cool enough to work on cars outside. > >My daughter (13) is working on her first restoration, a 1970 MGB. The >intent is that she gets it finished by the time she gets her driver's >license. Before the summer got too hot we pulled the exhaust, the fuel >system and the exterior lights. Recently we contructed one of those >temporary garages from Harbor Freight over the car and she'll finish >stripping the interior next. Hopefully over Christmas break. > >On the not so MG side (but still very MG) I'm tearing through a '69 >Sprite right now that was supposed to be her mum's first restoration. >But, now we're expecting, so I got left with this car taking up prime >real estate in my garage. Right now I'm stripping and restoring the >electrical system and dash. Next is the carbs. Should hopefully have >the engine/tranny out, last of the bolted on bits off, and the >external sheetmetal off the car by Christmas. Then it's blast, paint >and reassemble. > >Jody > >On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Tom Daughdrill wrote: > > Been trying to enjoy driving the wife's '79 MGB. The car tends to leave me > > places, but, with enough recent "fiddling", it is been better > than ever. It > > now starts easily enough, doesn't stall, and seems to enjoy being > driven. It > > seems to have always wanted to be a pleasant car, and now, it may > be! Still > > miss my Midget, though... > > Anybody got a good car for sale? > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mgs@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jodyfkerr@gmail.com > > > >-- >http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > >1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) >1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) >1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 >1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 >"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn >from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent >disinclination to do so." >--Douglas Adams >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca Regards Barrie barrie@look.ca 705-721-9060 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 7 08:39:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F222540426 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:39:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43D440426 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:38:31 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t49so320191wey.14 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 07:38:07 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GRWXy5UC93RJbJ21bzAFB7S2WH2L1LQauVZtoQUlXIg=; b=IhTmMHbyZz+zMCTL+agClJO6W2qJ6WkQIo2Th1FagGzS4pOWBJ1YHjlhrbWUZezY9G MC9Tb1jRNvGSV6nPMBtNBQnK8RL9mAVotiQgQz1kROgFndNWTtlp6Jb53CnjTA0YyOcE px/8QFft4nRPrM4Nf68JuktAxe7cr4uz3XgWioRcBXlHjUhsmfQgJAr13rmiy7jLFzgE k7RasMZ+6Oj9VdQ8Hs3JAo1bEd8hphUglN1wWEu0YHc4so2hKfDikzmrFuA7elbydRMg zTQUiTy9OOL4xi9upgLRQFIOz+axJliq7Jv5Ne+wcJlgQFfYHXgQ2bb8uVCA58+s4GuQ ZgLg== Received: by 10.180.74.108 with SMTP id s12mr9310930wiv.12.1354894686533; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 07:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.48.11 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 07:38:06 -0800 (PST) References: <9CC0475A-79FA-49AD-8190-A5F6DA22677B@sonic.net> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:38:06 -0700 From: Jody Kerr To: Barrie Robinson Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net It's been a lot of fun so far. :) I've had to arrange for her to get her own VB catalogs in the mail, otherwise we fight over the MG one when it arrives. It's also been a good help getting grades up as better grades = higher parts $ bonuses. Here's a video of her introducing her project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCu9jiwR2Rs One tip to any other parents who want to do this: buy the kid their own basic tools (sockets, wrenches, etc) otherwise yours will dissapear! Jody On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > Jody, > > That is brilliant! - about your daughter I mean. My daughter was dead keen > on my cars and she was the only one who wanted to drive my old Maserati - > others were scared of its power. But now my granddaughter leans more to > cars than my grandson. I have a delightful photo of her helping me with the > MGB GT V8 when when was about 11. Give your daughter a hug from me !! > > > > At 12:22 AM 12/7/2012 -0700, Jody Kerr wrote: >> >> Here in Arizona it's finally getting cool enough to work on cars outside. >> >> My daughter (13) is working on her first restoration, a 1970 MGB. The >> intent is that she gets it finished by the time she gets her driver's >> license. Before the summer got too hot we pulled the exhaust, the fuel >> system and the exterior lights. Recently we contructed one of those >> temporary garages from Harbor Freight over the car and she'll finish >> stripping the interior next. Hopefully over Christmas break. >> >> On the not so MG side (but still very MG) I'm tearing through a '69 >> Sprite right now that was supposed to be her mum's first restoration. >> But, now we're expecting, so I got left with this car taking up prime >> real estate in my garage. Right now I'm stripping and restoring the >> electrical system and dash. Next is the carbs. Should hopefully have >> the engine/tranny out, last of the bolted on bits off, and the >> external sheetmetal off the car by Christmas. Then it's blast, paint >> and reassemble. >> >> Jody >> >> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Tom Daughdrill >> wrote: >> > Been trying to enjoy driving the wife's '79 MGB. The car tends to leave >> > me >> > places, but, with enough recent "fiddling", it is been better than ever. >> > It >> > now starts easily enough, doesn't stall, and seems to enjoy being >> > driven. It >> > seems to have always wanted to be a pleasant car, and now, it may be! >> > Still >> > miss my Midget, though... >> > Anybody got a good car for sale? >> > Tom >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > Mgs@autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jodyfkerr@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.theymightberacing.com/ >> >> 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) >> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) >> 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 >> 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 >> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn >> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent >> disinclination to do so." >> --Douglas Adams >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca > > > Regards > > Barrie > barrie@look.ca > 705-721-9060 -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 7 09:06:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BD940E94 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:06:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E4EAC40440 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:06:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 22091 invoked by uid 0); 7 Dec 2012 16:05:45 -0000 Received: from 82.156.208.140 by www013.gmx.net with HTTP; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:05:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:05:45 +0100 From: "Bert Palte" References: <9CC0475A-79FA-49AD-8190-A5F6DA22677B@sonic.net> To: mgs@autox.team.net 7jThqFR5R0m3USQE21JZBUQL1p3ELvUbrg7w== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Jody, Nice daughter, nice project and nice video! One suggestion: buy her quality tools. (Over here: Gedore, Stahlwille, Facom. Over there???) They will last a life time. I was around 16 or 17 when I started working on cars (minimum age for driving license = 18y over here). Bought (myself) nothing but the best I could afford, even in my days as a poor student, considering that the cost of tools is much less than what you save by doing it all yourself. More than 40 years later I still have and use the same tools! Saw something typically American on the video: the levered (?) radiator cap. Have never seen them in Europe, only in the U.S.. What are they called and who makes them? Bert -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:38:06 -0700 > Von: Jody Kerr > An: Barrie Robinson > CC: mgs@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Mgs] Activity > It's been a lot of fun so far. :) > > I've had to arrange for her to get her own VB catalogs in the mail, > otherwise we fight over the MG one when it arrives. It's also been a > good help getting grades up as better grades = higher parts $ bonuses. > > Here's a video of her introducing her project: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCu9jiwR2Rs > > One tip to any other parents who want to do this: buy the kid their > own basic tools (sockets, wrenches, etc) otherwise yours will > dissapear! > > Jody > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > > Jody, > > > > That is brilliant! - about your daughter I mean. My daughter was dead > keen > > on my cars and she was the only one who wanted to drive my old Maserati > - > > others were scared of its power. But now my granddaughter leans more > to > > cars than my grandson. I have a delightful photo of her helping me with > the > > MGB GT V8 when when was about 11. Give your daughter a hug from me !! > > > > > > > > At 12:22 AM 12/7/2012 -0700, Jody Kerr wrote: > >> > >> Here in Arizona it's finally getting cool enough to work on cars > outside. > >> > >> My daughter (13) is working on her first restoration, a 1970 MGB. The > >> intent is that she gets it finished by the time she gets her driver's > >> license. Before the summer got too hot we pulled the exhaust, the fuel > >> system and the exterior lights. Recently we contructed one of those > >> temporary garages from Harbor Freight over the car and she'll finish > >> stripping the interior next. Hopefully over Christmas break. > >> > >> On the not so MG side (but still very MG) I'm tearing through a '69 > >> Sprite right now that was supposed to be her mum's first restoration. > >> But, now we're expecting, so I got left with this car taking up prime > >> real estate in my garage. Right now I'm stripping and restoring the > >> electrical system and dash. Next is the carbs. Should hopefully have > >> the engine/tranny out, last of the bolted on bits off, and the > >> external sheetmetal off the car by Christmas. Then it's blast, paint > >> and reassemble. > >> > >> Jody _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 7 09:13:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B297C40EB3 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:13:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301944053F for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:13:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id ei8so288800wgb.20 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:13:12 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ng1A9fR5L0FUiJyzSxXb+I+CPdqmbszfli6wmzyYFpg=; b=tK+CIqukyF1GlKoKo2J03o58+4RhMYkkglAZ3eMl43mkxYyoJSX0MbN5bsWMv09T73 0AQWl2y8sT8bK1kYUldzry4Hf04bX/6EvEahocthls9Mh8z9L4m0bUuc35BwXGAAV5KP 9QnFKHmveYsOR2Y/Io3gQzzJFKacnKGVBASBHbzHRuR1+vLFzMweermMf1WDsF9b1Q0b 3JcCaQbUX0tZL7NIshNeKStXyUKxxmc1IBSZ7QT/KKeYPIVeJ1J9ZF0Npken5+aYmV19 A5vc08LZWNQ0ZfUZ5JmPSVlhw7d5wA42U1PUQ7EnG5Pq7RPjup93bBqOt7vDyCcZMdeu 59lQ== Received: by 10.216.194.142 with SMTP id m14mr2224444wen.108.1354896792102; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.48.11 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:13:11 -0800 (PST) References: <9CC0475A-79FA-49AD-8190-A5F6DA22677B@sonic.net> <20121207160545.89500@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:13:11 -0700 From: Jody Kerr To: Bert Palte Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Bert, She still has a bit too much of a propensity to lose tools, so I'm sticking with the cheapo Harbor Freight stuff for now until she stops losing things so easily. Then we'll work on a proper toolkit. The radiator caps over here are vented, that's the function of the lever. The theory is that you pop the lever, it vents and cools down to a safe level before you completely open it. The reality is that you burn yourself on it while removing the cap too quickly causing a coolant fountain to occur at the front of the car as it boils over. :) Jody On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Bert Palte wrote: > Hi Jody, > > Nice daughter, nice project and nice video! > > > One suggestion: buy her quality tools. (Over here: Gedore, Stahlwille, Facom. Over there???) They will last a life time. > > I was around 16 or 17 when I started working on cars (minimum age for driving license = 18y over here). > Bought (myself) nothing but the best I could afford, even in my days as a poor student, considering that the cost of tools is much less than what you save by doing it all yourself. > > More than 40 years later I still have and use the same tools! > > > Saw something typically American on the video: the levered (?) radiator cap. Have never seen them in Europe, only in the U.S.. > > What are they called and who makes them? > > Bert > > > > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:38:06 -0700 >> Von: Jody Kerr >> An: Barrie Robinson >> CC: mgs@autox.team.net >> Betreff: Re: [Mgs] Activity > >> It's been a lot of fun so far. :) >> >> I've had to arrange for her to get her own VB catalogs in the mail, >> otherwise we fight over the MG one when it arrives. It's also been a >> good help getting grades up as better grades = higher parts $ bonuses. >> >> Here's a video of her introducing her project: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCu9jiwR2Rs >> >> One tip to any other parents who want to do this: buy the kid their >> own basic tools (sockets, wrenches, etc) otherwise yours will >> dissapear! >> >> Jody >> >> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: >> > Jody, >> > >> > That is brilliant! - about your daughter I mean. My daughter was dead >> keen >> > on my cars and she was the only one who wanted to drive my old Maserati >> - >> > others were scared of its power. But now my granddaughter leans more >> to >> > cars than my grandson. I have a delightful photo of her helping me with >> the >> > MGB GT V8 when when was about 11. Give your daughter a hug from me !! >> > >> > >> > >> > At 12:22 AM 12/7/2012 -0700, Jody Kerr wrote: >> >> >> >> Here in Arizona it's finally getting cool enough to work on cars >> outside. >> >> >> >> My daughter (13) is working on her first restoration, a 1970 MGB. The >> >> intent is that she gets it finished by the time she gets her driver's >> >> license. Before the summer got too hot we pulled the exhaust, the fuel >> >> system and the exterior lights. Recently we contructed one of those >> >> temporary garages from Harbor Freight over the car and she'll finish >> >> stripping the interior next. Hopefully over Christmas break. >> >> >> >> On the not so MG side (but still very MG) I'm tearing through a '69 >> >> Sprite right now that was supposed to be her mum's first restoration. >> >> But, now we're expecting, so I got left with this car taking up prime >> >> real estate in my garage. Right now I'm stripping and restoring the >> >> electrical system and dash. Next is the carbs. Should hopefully have >> >> the engine/tranny out, last of the bolted on bits off, and the >> >> external sheetmetal off the car by Christmas. Then it's blast, paint >> >> and reassemble. >> >> >> >> Jody > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jodyfkerr@gmail.com -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 7 17:30:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9914043A for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:30:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.219]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E27A40426 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:29:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.61] by nm40.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2012 00:29:09 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.81] by tm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2012 00:29:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2012 00:29:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9763 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Dec 2012 00:29:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354926549; bh=EhbY+m5Gv4dEEtyJ2XUeIJuhLTfRdY44N8b9l/IVXRw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xDf4km+jHvL0KWYKhWL8XPBn9j8eRNDkug7QARbibscHfTsOi25g02PBj5qg3rBnV/SZwk1C5O6IXq9n2fnIFE6la2wKuC3q9kwFhIbpLAMssmm6Ebo6LFX+xp6Yrn5I8KOSbsv20fEcOzabf3lhGIaVbniXSKFidnXUTzKTrFg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q8RKltg2DA//l1o2CK4m3rASO7cMg9hO7LIxNVGQvQHzvIWNoakAf4iDQwA/TjjNzT49XNwKDhm21z6a8T6QxaAEDPbyHkIJ9JIs5GMwx9kRr3+1HkhS5KYkoq1DkvHVo0YmPoa4NVahi+wpBErV65922hqOW5rxhSHz+CZf94U=; iAwwLznkEmR86dqlGj_b9OhIX4A1tCMtnsvjlt2fE1RtLoOeSMIe9rDPLyKo jSl.3c1Qj0XjF.wgfnuxxv5BAVKbgsQNXdG4ROhEIqN82vDnUk6kpqmFNarn kFIkgac2FX8E_lfiedwLQUIn1_dYSFRLNsptIdqo2wM._BjRILdETbgIpm7m aW8KWpF0yjp91aWItXDXJkV4OvfFYR8BPdijrGrOzJdke8qA2R8nDY3S2jT3 jsFRJO5LarJkGNBeevEoPoA.ZmuoROHPBpBKl853qmDsQa0uaDDE4WWQCZWA CZpXwj48fMlTmN4qxhSVV04mmdMWbPOIRVotdtR3Et2NZhFZHYu7ldNP4bkn RDSJ5BbtDFp1gv7XM3DDQz0XDKf6CnmbReDHcI6y9I6EWf6h_gTU8aElNbJC SK00V3.FatV8p5wYKyXBuAPl_slPFHWT7K.MiODODzhxMMRXjLRgD0P_.puX VT_k- Received: from [107.192.134.236] by web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:29:09 PST SGVsbG8gRnJpZW5kcywKCldoZW4gaXQgY29tZXMgdG8gdGVjaG5pY2FsIGlzc3VlcyBiZXlvbmQgbXkga25vd2xlZGdlLCBJIHR1cm4gdG8geW91IGd1eXMsIGluZGVwZW5kZW50IG9mIHRoZSBlbmdpbmUgbWFudWZhY3R1cmVyLiAgVGhlIGVuZ2luZSBJJ20gYnVpbGRpbmcgaXMgYSBMb3R1cy1Gb3JkIFR3aW4gQ2FtIGZyb20gYSAnNjUgRWxhbiBTMi4gIEhlcmUncyB0aGUgc3RvcnkgYW5kIHRoZSBxdWVzdGlvbjsKCkJvcmUgPSAzLjI1MCIKCkZpcnN0IGNvbXByZXNzaW9uIHJpbmcgPSAwLjA4MyIgcmluZyABMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:29:09 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Ring groove width tolerance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, When it comes to technical issues beyond my knowledge, I turn to you guys, independent of the engine manufacturer. The engine I'm building is a Lotus-Ford Twin Cam from a '65 Elan S2. Here's the story and the question; Bore = 3.250" First compression ring = 0.083" ring groove width, ring is designed for 0.078" width. Second compression ring = 0.079" ring groove width, which is within spec. Oil ring = correct. Lotus specifies that the groove width limit is 0.080" but that's for a new engine. My question is whether 0.005" is a little too large for an engine destined for mild street motoring (with a few moments of spirited driving tossed in). Or am I going to have to source custom rings? :-o Thanks in advance for any and all advice. Respond off-list if desired. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 7 18:11:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E1A40E94 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:11:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D4B40409 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:11:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2012 01:10:47 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.48] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2012 01:10:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2012 01:10:47 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354929047; bh=VvmyV9t6mMHeG4KndxM98KIUK+iD2CXXymToPcgLKkA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pwmKKdEbYEiMcgJnG/2RvSUEjSLQZDcRsGAAgQof+qHN5nSIbWjICiRExjcOkNLJ13jFRQzkNOH0NsAn7Qz7XNWslWD7O4n/C17Qna/lyVosEs9KRKIihHkJIfh/Ax+mLF8QtYh8+SNxnsfpmgSm96n9/ILdAxMePt5tiYBCeXE= eT2F68OlvP7vJpTD2KXh4go8fTtmDTr8JdddRCjztg9Rm34Roy_3z.wmkydS zIiWtW5umkO0w4jW7th.nKGCGYqt3ypnx6EOkiVFoiog9kS.iRSez5lKJ0mN Tpgeq8yL6Edn48F_TpDRl5EeHV74JoSkIR.GxeeQxv81x1X2qFApIXUwvNZW DSRZqmaqdKIS3PV2E1Vm8IeDpTa8FE6f2Y8UXlxfqbvaImw0xm5n6yFxmj5y CPB.CY22mxL33naUa191DtaBGNbht86pGvEbzGp1c24RJ0JaEe4QOvdmTbde y4tEqhusRzk0_4UL4bGD20Q_joBZMHHmDMeRqXOktAipLyhLMMBX8r2suIrO p_5S9McHHYseMyjnBhcbtOO4vIzg7L.zSP3QIfWTY9egIa1G8r.gwVRm8Aea iMyp17i6g0CjT9GuicmGBRwRk9NxwkB0- Received: from [127.0.0.1] (chillmog@99.9.234.42 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Dec 2012 17:10:47 -0800 PST Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:10:46 -0600 From: Charles Hill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <1354926549.9433.YahooMailClassic@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Ring groove width tolerance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, I don't have any Ford/Lotus references but all the ones I have suggest that .005" is the upper limit for piston ring side clearance. Custom rings might be an alternative but the ring grooves in the pistons will have to be machined to true them up. New pistons may end up being a cheaper and easier alternative. Regards, Charles Hill On 12/7/2012 6:29 PM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Hello Friends, > > When it comes to technical issues beyond my knowledge, I turn to you guys, independent of the engine manufacturer. The engine I'm building is a Lotus-Ford Twin Cam from a '65 Elan S2. Here's the story and the question; > > Bore = 3.250" > > First compression ring = 0.083" ring groove width, ring is designed for 0.078" width. > > Second compression ring = 0.079" ring groove width, which is within spec. > > Oil ring = correct. > > Lotus specifies that the groove width limit is 0.080" but that's for a new engine. My question is whether 0.005" is a little too large for an engine destined for mild street motoring (with a few moments of spirited driving tossed in). Or am I going to have to source custom rings? :-o > > Thanks in advance for any and all advice. Respond off-list if desired. > > -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 8 06:21:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F7740438 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 06:21:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta51.windstream.net (pacmmta51.windstream.net [162.39.147.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7689140426 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 06:19:59 -0700 (MST) cv=aHfn/RYGjHyGP+N2EnbBgTIWTR5GejUgQkkcqrFc9ss= c=1 sm=0 a=OvIMvpSEN2sA:10 a=We2GSUcPNccA:10 a=fOpwdquTRaQA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=5w6KYhOSAAAA:20 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=u9VUmZZiAAAA:8 a=U0NCRjm4oodahwMKXekA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=3tI3Ae-RVZAA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=8POjvvgKEeKR2XVtozzZoA==:117 Authentication-Results: pacmmta51 smtp.user=ccrobins@ktc.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [151.213.155.53] ([151.213.155.53:50084] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by pacmmta51 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39824M)) with ESMTPA id DC/F1-09697-16E33C05; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:19:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:19:05 -0600 From: Charley & Peggy Robinson Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <9CC0475A-79FA-49AD-8190-A5F6DA22677B@sonic.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Nice video. You mentioned that the air filters were missing. I do believe I glimpsed them in the seating area. CR On 12/7/2012 9:38 AM, Jody Kerr wrote: > It's been a lot of fun so far. :) > > I've had to arrange for her to get her own VB catalogs in the mail, > otherwise we fight over the MG one when it arrives. It's also been a > good help getting grades up as better grades = higher parts $ bonuses. > > Here's a video of her introducing her project: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCu9jiwR2Rs > > One tip to any other parents who want to do this: buy the kid their > own basic tools (sockets, wrenches, etc) otherwise yours will > dissapear! > > Jody > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: >> Jody, >> >> That is brilliant! - about your daughter I mean. My daughter was dead keen >> on my cars and she was the only one who wanted to drive my old Maserati - >> others were scared of its power. But now my granddaughter leans more to >> cars than my grandson. I have a delightful photo of her helping me with the >> MGB GT V8 when when was about 11. Give your daughter a hug from me !! >> >> >> >> At 12:22 AM 12/7/2012 -0700, Jody Kerr wrote: >>> Here in Arizona it's finally getting cool enough to work on cars outside. >>> >>> My daughter (13) is working on her first restoration, a 1970 MGB. The >>> intent is that she gets it finished by the time she gets her driver's >>> license. Before the summer got too hot we pulled the exhaust, the fuel >>> system and the exterior lights. Recently we contructed one of those >>> temporary garages from Harbor Freight over the car and she'll finish >>> stripping the interior next. Hopefully over Christmas break. >>> >>> On the not so MG side (but still very MG) I'm tearing through a '69 >>> Sprite right now that was supposed to be her mum's first restoration. >>> But, now we're expecting, so I got left with this car taking up prime >>> real estate in my garage. Right now I'm stripping and restoring the >>> electrical system and dash. Next is the carbs. Should hopefully have >>> the engine/tranny out, last of the bolted on bits off, and the >>> external sheetmetal off the car by Christmas. Then it's blast, paint >>> and reassemble. >>> >>> Jody >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Tom Daughdrill >>> wrote: >>>> Been trying to enjoy driving the wife's '79 MGB. The car tends to leave >>>> me >>>> places, but, with enough recent "fiddling", it is been better than ever. >>>> It >>>> now starts easily enough, doesn't stall, and seems to enjoy being >>>> driven. It >>>> seems to have always wanted to be a pleasant car, and now, it may be! >>>> Still >>>> miss my Midget, though... >>>> Anybody got a good car for sale? >>>> Tom >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jodyfkerr@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.theymightberacing.com/ >>> >>> 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) >>> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) >>> 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 >>> 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 >>> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn >>> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent >>> disinclination to do so." >>> --Douglas Adams >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca >> >> Regards >> >> Barrie >> barrie@look.ca >> 705-721-9060 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 8 07:23:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D71A4043E for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:23:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83213403E7 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:22:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id c10so4131501ieb.25 for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:22:21 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=nVvkWLoanmuloS3u35oFoXNn/YRJd5dNtCOLd26QEBo=; b=NufCXP3PFGBrrXWTApDGj0hjEkyNpoLFT583l3KTg+dWk90I1fX5puQ3Dy7ISrzch7 hBMZvkoLyJISh32WZTcxzVrIbY9FLCd3HJIscO8yLU+ofzkIDhQKOuwSRq9TJZWuSvSa BrlfAjZXCbKCQI1HYUvz4rtsPYgcJ2FEHQmAsEN6i4nqoBr3cEFJ+u1SIbwrz317tIm5 sA0KCTC2aA/JYM2rUojxg/DTb2SzaUJR8Ht3cHVZc3w2FOyJ4Ay2yZz2TdGO3kIwlk03 9oByLosngpJynzyJUQWOpH4TOktWIOclyZ/FQCrOEtnNTy9lCLr6QJM/Nag2/vihXn5J AUAg== Received: by 10.50.77.132 with SMTP id s4mr1859872igw.49.1354976541403; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (174-20-42-27.mpls.qwest.net. [174.20.42.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fa6sm1650055igb.2.2012.12.08.06.22.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:22:20 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Root Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:22:17 -0600 References: <9CC0475A-79FA-49AD-8190-A5F6DA22677B@sonic.net> <50C33E49.5060609@ktc.com> To: ccrobins@ktc.com Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I definitely did. On Dec 8, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Charley & Peggy Robinson wrote: > Nice video. You mentioned that the air filters were missing. I do believe I glimpsed them in the seating area. > > CR > > On 12/7/2012 9:38 AM, Jody Kerr wrote: >> It's been a lot of fun so far. :) >> >> I've had to arrange for her to get her own VB catalogs in the mail, >> otherwise we fight over the MG one when it arrives. It's also been a >> good help getting grades up as better grades = higher parts $ bonuses. >> >> Here's a video of her introducing her project: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCu9jiwR2Rs >> >> One tip to any other parents who want to do this: buy the kid their >> own basic tools (sockets, wrenches, etc) otherwise yours will >> dissapear! >> >> Jody >> >> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: >>> Jody, >>> >>> That is brilliant! - about your daughter I mean. My daughter was dead keen >>> on my cars and she was the only one who wanted to drive my old Maserati - >>> others were scared of its power. But now my granddaughter leans more to >>> cars than my grandson. I have a delightful photo of her helping me with the >>> MGB GT V8 when when was about 11. Give your daughter a hug from me !! >>> >>> >>> >>> At 12:22 AM 12/7/2012 -0700, Jody Kerr wrote: >>>> Here in Arizona it's finally getting cool enough to work on cars outside. >>>> >>>> My daughter (13) is working on her first restoration, a 1970 MGB. The >>>> intent is that she gets it finished by the time she gets her driver's >>>> license. Before the summer got too hot we pulled the exhaust, the fuel >>>> system and the exterior lights. Recently we contructed one of those >>>> temporary garages from Harbor Freight over the car and she'll finish >>>> stripping the interior next. Hopefully over Christmas break. >>>> >>>> On the not so MG side (but still very MG) I'm tearing through a '69 >>>> Sprite right now that was supposed to be her mum's first restoration. >>>> But, now we're expecting, so I got left with this car taking up prime >>>> real estate in my garage. Right now I'm stripping and restoring the >>>> electrical system and dash. Next is the carbs. Should hopefully have >>>> the engine/tranny out, last of the bolted on bits off, and the >>>> external sheetmetal off the car by Christmas. Then it's blast, paint >>>> and reassemble. >>>> >>>> Jody >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Tom Daughdrill >>>> wrote: >>>>> Been trying to enjoy driving the wife's '79 MGB. The car tends to leave >>>>> me >>>>> places, but, with enough recent "fiddling", it is been better than ever. >>>>> It >>>>> now starts easily enough, doesn't stall, and seems to enjoy being >>>>> driven. It >>>>> seems to have always wanted to be a pleasant car, and now, it may be! >>>>> Still >>>>> miss my Midget, though... >>>>> Anybody got a good car for sale? >>>>> Tom >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jodyfkerr@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.theymightberacing.com/ >>>> >>>> 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) >>>> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) >>>> 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 >>>> 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 >>>> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn >>>> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent >>>> disinclination to do so." >>>> --Douglas Adams >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Barrie >>> barrie@look.ca >>> 705-721-9060 > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 8 07:31:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2233B40516 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:31:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6A940403 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:30:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from frankdcczr6l6k ([unknown] [100.40.18.211]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MEP003N8UYMSE50@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:30:23 -0600 (CST) From: To: "MG List" , "Rick Lindsay" References: <1354926549.9433.YahooMailClassic@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:30:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Ring groove width tolerance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Rick I once had a 65 Elan S2 and still have the factory issued shop and parts manuals. If you think those tolerances are listed in there I will check for you. They are in my library of shop manuals that go back eons. I sold the cars buit always kept the shop manuals for ever car I ever owned. Let me know if the list can't provide the help you seek. I am surprised Barney hasn't responded. Even tho it's not an A he seems to be knowledgable about many more cars that As. Frank Krajewski ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Lindsay" To: Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: [Mgs] Ring groove width tolerance > Hello Friends, > > When it comes to technical issues beyond my knowledge, I turn to you guys, > independent of the engine manufacturer. The engine I'm building is a > Lotus-Ford Twin Cam from a '65 Elan S2. Here's the story and the > question; > > Bore = 3.250" > > First compression ring = 0.083" ring groove width, ring is designed for > 0.078" width. > > Second compression ring = 0.079" ring groove width, which is within spec. > > Oil ring = correct. > > Lotus specifies that the groove width limit is 0.080" but that's for a new > engine. My question is whether 0.005" is a little too large for an engine > destined for mild street motoring (with a few moments of spirited driving > tossed in). Or am I going to have to source custom rings? :-o > > Thanks in advance for any and all advice. Respond off-list if desired. > > -rick > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 8 08:09:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AB44043B for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:09:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B674540436 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:09:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 17056 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 2012 15:08:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2012 15:08:43 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=ZrwN909OQxjItNXwFS99BBWNiEzlklRxAYrNr/7NnI0=; b=dG/1iGzAgA/0OjdcCnRiUwjKpO1FQ/egOgRRKuv+crW9sKdqWQdaP7nr3GigDdhAwZsmS/uTuQy5ImpWA1bsI/RyMGwSNdNyWk/ucOlFx3f3bIXP8Slw+7nqWqHG9WCY; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=37013 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ThM1D-0001nP-G4 for mgs@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:08:43 -0700 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:08:42 -0600 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <1354926549.9433.YahooMailClassic@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] Ring groove width tolerance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net << On 12/7/2012 6:29 PM, Rick Lindsay wrote: Thanks in advance for any and all advice. >> First question, Rick What is gap after rings installed? ? 2nd: Block bored out ? a] org. stock size ? b] oversize is now what ? 3rd: Using org pistons ? Ed _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 9 11:37:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EB8403DE for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 11:37:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168F34054A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 11:37:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C2FA137B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 11:37:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 11:37:54 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] Archive search Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net It should be working better. Link below. mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 12:08:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB6E40697 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:08:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp10.online.nl (smtp10.online.nl [194.134.42.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07A540562 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:08:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp10.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F7A406EC for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:07:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from WoonkamerPC.gmx.net (s529cd08c.adsl.online.nl [82.156.208.140]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:07:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:07:27 +0100 To: mgs@autox.team.net From: Bert Palte Subject: [Mgs] Happy Dan H's Day Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net for those that were around in 1996, Don't trt to contact me, I'm out of the office. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 12:10:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0F34225B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:10:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23BF40562 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:10:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09673A138B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:10:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:10:55 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <20121210190728.08F7A406EC@smtp10.online.nl> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Happy Dan H's Day Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Bert Palte wrote: > for those that were around in 1996, > > Don't trt to contact me, I'm out of the office. Thanks for the laugh. Of course it wasn't too funny while I was frantically working on stopping it! mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 10 13:35:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87879406AD for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:35:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F0F4056C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:33:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id m15so2920182lah.14 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:33:10 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=PDGVG//1y1IpSSnzUOKmQ6di9+sQUEq9XA/HV1LawPU=; b=Op0d8ayA6W4RKXsaxOQ2HwQsE0SyH6SPPj8bldERj41i0WakuSX2wF97lOXAGwUYZ+ Cv1eQDDnGRWFlCSwvqv89YtfSSiUO7pu/d7RronxHz+nd7dRuiATbODRHGeRF4EaCmvb pfh+pbyEBazCmUf0q7ICsdblbZ3MjLZJBz8yu/jkREkuEcx0RToYKgrW+v9/hIFgOHcT P1F19tfKKAHaWXq62n0SWiIVlWtpfgPSK6bgyRCJwfwdnlFIjWHXQYQC5+N8PuMgyJkU vc2fWqnSaygDfRNtDZ+7T45lvG+WYoCSy+66is9QhgM5IR1uIxOvcjnLhvZPnIwXk7IG mWKA== Received: by 10.152.145.162 with SMTP id sv2mr6716771lab.41.1355171590521; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.147.8 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:33:10 -0800 (PST) References: <20121210190728.08F7A406EC@smtp10.online.nl> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:33:10 -0700 From: PHIL BATES To: Bert Palte Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Happy Dan H's Day Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I remember Dan Hughs (sp?) day!! On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Bert Palte wrote: > for those that were around in 1996, > > Don't trt to contact me, I'm out of the office. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jello@cableone.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 10:12:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8826D4227D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:12:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172E7407AD; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:11:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id qd14so12827154ieb.34 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:10:17 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=pkTuTT21R0C+vQa0yfiYWEBKCXKAtVFNM4m64w4kPWc=; b=D6xJQCYpgWBL6zi3Mtw9Ri7VEB6o47HcHeUfSB8V+qYYD9c7yXSs7w3MPJQsWexXBG D5aEm7DKqgHqtq0xGYpGrs428i7SDZtDbAu0ab324TyLh+/VnjuCefLWDKu9enaB050A jA71tmReFhXa+NK87gvfD7gx8nz0jec/V9Q9O88+9YjDFlpuy1w+u6NWyU+cgM4XjNSN w78dTORcaOH3Dq4jgygz549afItAbL5HwjMHbL3ozbBDROolNjt/SOrxMmWUf85PCQww PMUg9HV4DuNfX6BFV24tDyj8h0gHlgsv2RYzijHaVUaI4N9SZURgZ7yS8vy+5VYVoZHe bkEg== Received: by 10.50.179.100 with SMTP id df4mr10685004igc.60.1355245817621; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from aces.iaces.com ([204.147.87.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vq4sm9032248igb.10.2012.12.11.09.10.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:10:16 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Root Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:10:13 -0600 References: <1355244234.30399.YahooMailNeo@web125204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: "sdesalvo@frontiernet.net" Cc: mg list , healey list Subject: Re: [Mgs] Evan's waterless coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know anything about the product. But if your car is running too hot, you should address the problem with it. Go through the cooling system. Is the radiator flowing properly, is the water pump working properly? Is the block clogged? Is the thermostat functioning? Is the fan ok? Is there a missing shroud. Don't treat a symptom, treat the problem. Also, remember that the gauges on our old cars are showing what's actually happening, instead of electronically moved to 'N' and then not moved regardless. If you aren't loosing fluid, you aren't overheating. Paul. On Dec 11, 2012, at 10:43 AM, sdesalvo@frontiernet.net wrote: > Merry Christmas to all. > I just read an article on Evan's Waterless Coolant > and wonder what experiences any of you have with the product. I have a AH > 100-4 that sometimes runs hotter than I think it should and wonder if the > product is worth the $40 per gallon price. Thanks in advance for any > responses. > Sam > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 10:45:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FEC40E52 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:45:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.186]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C923040E1D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:41:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by m1plsmtpa01-07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id aHgq1k00B53lu5001Hgrt5; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:40:51 -0700 From: "Dave" To: "mg list" References: <1355244234.30399.YahooMailNeo@web125204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:37:08 -0600 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Evan's waterless coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net imho that is way too expensive a product to put in a british car. highly likely at some point it will end up on the ground listen to Paul - good advice. get an infra red temp reader to ascertain true temps -----Original Message----- From: sdesalvo@frontiernet.net Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:43 AM To: healey list ; mg list Subject: [Mgs] Evan's waterless coolant Merry Christmas to all. I just read an article on Evan's Waterless Coolant and wonder what experiences any of you have with the product. I have a AH 100-4 that sometimes runs hotter than I think it should and wonder if the product is worth the $40 per gallon price. Thanks in advance for any responses. Sam _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 11:13:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639F340E47 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:13:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA63540424 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:12:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 765901C0000B2; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.206.39.189] (mobile-198-228-204-156.mycingular.net [198.228.204.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1FC4AE00012E; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:11:32 -0500 (EST) References: <1355244234.30399.YahooMailNeo@web125204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <076008B1D4F244088CF77A22BFA03648@Datsun> From: John Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:11:25 -0500 To: Dave x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1355249492; bh=ouVxReFNJ5a56yxVrNenguItFqkN+rS+OAeW5+OaLNM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Baz1JNi7W5TfT8PHP9756gQgPnlqbY2FkJoPxbu0BcFAiis8o1Vo/A6U64v3tC14l LCJoS0qCAECbto6gDX1d1FPeXcrGIrSZhVw7RQt2+nPV4XreXPlEvzXDQHEn7j54Pn wRiNAEmfw4muKMFLOuqYwV+A8Z9xm4HojMf+kTPw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c650c77752275b Cc: mg list Subject: Re: [Mgs] Evan's waterless coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Assuming its not a gauge issue... You may live near a radiator shop that can do a rod-out/clean out. The guy near me just did my MG 1100 for $60. They take the end tanks out and poke rods through the holes to get the crap out. Sometimes they are plugged up so bad they need a new core, then you're talking $300+ depending on how big. Find a place that uses Maine Radiator cores. Between your presumably original end caps and their old style cores nobody will ever know its not original. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 12:22:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484B8407AD for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:22:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews08.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews08.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DFC40561 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:21:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from cpsps-ews28.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.194]) by cpsmtpb-ews08.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:19:59 +0100 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.18]) by cpsps-ews28.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:19:59 +0100 Received: from PolderPC ([77.171.11.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:20:51 +0100 From: "Hans Duinhoven" To: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:20:52 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3X1IByLW9OVvEsTwWke4fZyXfQTQ== Content-Language: nl FILETIME=[A1E79600:01CDD7D4] Subject: [Mgs] ONE WHEEL MOTOR CYCLE -- off topic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Nice Christmas gift. Cheers, Hans who still prefers his 71 BGT NRYNO Motors Monocycle RYNO Motors Monocycle NRYNO Motors Monocycle RYNO Motors Monocycle _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 12:23:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F9B40E5D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:23:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nlpi162.prodigy.net (nlpi162.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC8E40E1F for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:23:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from barney-gaylord.mgaguru.com (adsl-75-5-79-88.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net [75.5.79.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by nlpi162.prodigy.net (8.14.4 smptauth/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBBJMMfg025964; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:22:23 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:22:20 -0600 To: sdesalvo@frontiernet.net, mgs@autox.team.net From: Barney Gaylord > References: <1355244234.30399.YahooMailNeo@web125204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Evan's waterless coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Great advertising, isn't it? Just two words. Forget it. If you think it is running too hot now, it is likely to run hotter with Evans Waterless Coolant. This stuff has much lower specific heat, meaning it carries less heat for a given temperature rise. Stated another way, it needs higher temperature rise to carry away the same amount of waste heat from your engine to the radiator. It is very similar to using 100% glycol based antifreeze with no water. Bad news in hot weather. Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com At 08:43 AM 12/11/2012 -0800, sdesalvo@frontiernet.net wrote: >.... >I just read an article on Evan's Waterless Coolant and wonder what >experiences any of you have with the product. I have a AH 100-4 that >sometimes runs hotter than I think it should and wonder if the >product is worth the $40 per gallon price. .... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 12:35:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223BD40E56 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:35:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09ABA403F8 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:35:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (173-228-28-98.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id qBBJZ0DH024957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:35:01 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.35.0.121009 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:34:41 -0800 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] ONE WHEEL MOTOR CYCLE -- off topic Thread-Index: Ac3X1IByLW9OVvEsTwWke4fZyXfQTQAAhAA4 Subject: Re: [Mgs] ONE WHEEL MOTOR CYCLE -- off topic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe for your worst enemy. I saw this earlier. Strikes me as a deathtrap. Not fast enough to mix it up with traffic, not legal on the sidewalk or bicycle lanes, much less rider protection than a motorcycle, inherently unstable under braking. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 12/11/12 11:20 AM, Hans Duinhoven at h.duinhoven@planet.nl wrote: > Nice Christmas gift. > > Cheers, > > Hans who still prefers his 71 BGT > > NRYNO Motors Monocycle > > RYNO Motors Monocycle > NRYNO Motors Monocycle > > > RYNO Motors Monocycle _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 14:50:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823CA40E55 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:50:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D3B40E34 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:49:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2012 21:49:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.244] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2012 21:49:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2012 21:49:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 66129 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Dec 2012 21:49:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1355262548; bh=RVaXYeUVKirVwUvn+/KB1yxN1N9fYD+Nqf7nr4an5xM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=usO7vMzxDOtF3f5iW8+Hpsqntjc60ailV3sZanWIuQLnBDA1D8KGyQ2H1YHXTetzj/596YZxQiWxZCXKcylIpofOZ02z0EbcCgXoQSBAghUnyrJ4UtfYYg9C6CIJr7BnzQLofrFExUesmD/iP1gP5Esl4AjamJqOlWdifszecB4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OThuqXZe4fMzsCzqiMkfhgsBpmPMRS+o/16uGqWmOExZSfjjPIDkgqyMQca1lYAY/WbMreRzRR029fTVDeEI3m9V4nUkAxdLDZDgCFMq6kml2Pc+OfEc6/VaDlHHOy96lp10vaiL+V6vBS7qR38slt6C9lZGjgV6mef3lrAMGKU=; VBIGZaMEmR41.F9wpS6JflrtWasv8ET9tn9mD8l9wbPs8MYJcR8t7wOJ1xY1 7n8aS3jBN5R.bQFJSm5JYT3M46CHMlRbloqnyOID3jidDm74aGN3bBrCG_yf 5vFQH_PJpGREOjS0hKJ.182ggeMvuyJ93O2RktIZqhsRJ9B4x_wi9afqVBMS yy3WU3G9ku10ujYZADcxrEFLYbUzTODytiG7COITXxDJu8H4cGBsumh2XbPl EO2og3D1Ln6WRxwJ_eDNu3FyKd6wDpN_VIRVpYGSNeBnKEsQExm8pYv55alq SmD64GlpvWammVqSFo63Za7dRMLbch2QKUJERJdStAHLWUqv0lXA1dW6U2hV Yox2coaALvM4ToxRhmXI8YhSAofF14nHVr_INqU.qSdZgIONXwbGVCoo4N4R OlZsbx4on_6Ilz9HCub.YeYNZu9hvO3.isfp4xE9PtRU.F0mjKz2PhPybUS9 cIO7mA6K5NwJ9l3MaJ5BJ0YEgKDvWAqkgbYHBaBjUqT76QguFiigFSSbGYFM ulah6d9DjtFm0tE2qCLctw0WYcm_dm4mmd2.mUpxwMPwTDGcAy_M4pmIJi3i V7Pj2RJI1WQWduXO1soU- Received: from [68.44.138.78] by web164901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:49:07 PST QnV0IHByZXR0eSBjb29sIG5vbmV0aGVsZXNzLi4uLi4KCkRhbiBECgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBNYXggSGVpbSA8bXZoZWltQHNvbmljLm5ldD4KVG86IE1HIExpc3QgPG1nc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4gClNlbnQ6IFR1ZXNkYXksIERlY2VtYmVyIDExLCAyMDEyIDI6MzQgUE0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtNZ3NdIE9ORSBXSEVFTCBNT1RPUiBDWUNMRSAtLSBvZmYgdG9waWMKIApNYXliZSBmb3IgeW91ciB3b3JzdCBlbmVteS4gSSBzYXcgdGhpcyBlYXJsaWVyLiABMAEBAQE- References: <001401cdd7d4$a2f7f490$e8e7ddb0$@planet.nl> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:49:07 -0800 (PST) From: Dan DiBiase To: Max Heim , MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] ONE WHEEL MOTOR CYCLE -- off topic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net But pretty cool nonetheless..... Dan D ________________________________ From: Max Heim To: MG List Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] ONE WHEEL MOTOR CYCLE -- off topic Maybe for your worst enemy. I saw this earlier. Strikes me as a deathtrap. Not fast enough to mix it up with traffic, not legal on the sidewalk or bicycle lanes, much less rider protection than a motorcycle, inherently unstable under braking. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 12/11/12 11:20 AM, Hans Duinhoven at h.duinhoven@planet.nl wrote: > Nice Christmas gift. > > Cheers, > > Hans who still prefers his 71 BGT > > NRYNO Motors Monocycle > > RYNO Motors Monocycle > NRYNO Motors Monocycle > > > RYNO Motors Monocycle _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 11 15:07:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA7B40E5D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:07:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922D040E01 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:07:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (173-228-28-98.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id qBBM6OOQ020274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:06:28 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.35.0.121009 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:03:42 -0800 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] ONE WHEEL MOTOR CYCLE -- off topic Thread-Index: Ac3X62GyFP3BT1W6UUivHZ1zAvkfNA== Subject: Re: [Mgs] ONE WHEEL MOTOR CYCLE -- off topic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I think the traditional monowheel is cooler, although it shares many of the same deficiencies (and some additional issues). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monowheel -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 12/11/12 1:49 PM, Dan DiBiase at d_dibiase@yahoo.com wrote: > But pretty cool nonetheless..... > > Dan D > > > > ________________________________ > From: Max Heim > To: MG List > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Mgs] ONE WHEEL MOTOR CYCLE -- off topic > > Maybe for your worst enemy. I saw this earlier. Strikes me as a deathtrap. > Not fast enough to mix it up with traffic, not legal on the sidewalk or > bicycle lanes, much less rider protection than a motorcycle, inherently > unstable under braking. > > -- > > Max Heim > '66 MGB GHN3L76149 > If you're near Menlo Park, CA, > it's the primer red one with chrome wires > > > > on 12/11/12 11:20 AM, Hans Duinhoven at h.duinhoven@planet.nl wrote: > >> Nice Christmas gift. > >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hans who still prefers his 71 BGT > >> >> NRYNO Motors Monocycle > >> >> RYNO Motors Monocycle > >> NRYNO Motors Monocycle > >> >> >> RYNO Motors Monocycle _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 01:51:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E9140E4F for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:51:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E3D40511 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:51:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hm9so271972wib.2 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:50:50 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=723NuGyar0W8wzk2GxNbsTUtDvHhhVJkjWgCOlVDscw=; b=kHI6IWbFRjrh+WK1u6yaRxaZvI96gXumAEyM+8o2BHginUWqNObO3ggmSfWP3aqXs6 R3OiazY0mHPUhhj79+ZcI7QJuLIhpE6/B9CNgq1F2huuhP9ejNwqrROxpKOwSgZvA/Cz r7Q6938JK5z3RUp4oK+4F4vvXKauqZKVSZ4+ld0jD9UoDqjnsIjpy8z2kOsfqvz0n6QS uC6EFiJcVj5kCvhMWjCvKf0eEaf9XIDPJWpBzq+kAlVtPQo2FCKczi42FYVwu/mCrT3l xXHKwzcYu9d1qKkSOthnx3Lq1+zI1LnWbKuIwXVHRCsohYAd6cTyPm1UxcPOijJIMg80 anDA== Received: by 10.180.82.170 with SMTP id j10mr336096wiy.2.1355302250039; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from paul (know-mailgateway-3.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i2sm2298536wiw.3.2012.12.12.00.50.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: "PaulHunt73" To: , "mg list" References: <1355244234.30399.YahooMailNeo@web125204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:34:16 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Evan's waterless coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net If it's not steaming or losing coolant, it's not overheating. Unlike modern cars where the temperature gauge is 'modified' so that it stays in the same place through all normal variations in temperature, it's quite normal for this era of car to go up and down according to conditions. I've seen both my V8 and roadster on the edge of the H zone in very warm weather and neither lost any coolant. If it's fluctuating, or high in cool weather, then that is a cause for investigation, not trying a different coolant. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > ... I have a AH > 100-4 that sometimes runs hotter than I think it should ... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 12 14:17:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFDD40E5D for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:17:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136FB40417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:15:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (108-169-4-180.dynamic.dsl.sonic.net [108.169.4.180] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id qBCLEsb0027784 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:14:56 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.35.0.121009 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:14:19 -0800 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] MG activity Thread-Index: Ac3UGPd7/DtjRdNRcU6yyXo0t7oSIwElK6Lt Subject: Re: [Mgs] MG activity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Forgot to mention the other little problem: in re-tightening the front "lever & pin", I broke the bolt. Of course I couldn't find an exact replacement at the hardware store -- the nut was some odd size that neither 5/16 or 11/32 fit effectively (I assume that was 21/64, but WHY????). So I grabbed a pair of metric bolts that take an 8mm perfectly (a pair, so that the same socket would fit both). I also ordered a new unit from Moss, but when it arrived I refused to put it on the car -- it was just too cheesy (yes, even cheesier than using metric hardware). The piece was just a bent stamping -- instead of the pressed-in round pin, it had a bent flat tab. I wasn't convinced that it would actuate simultaneously with the other pin, based on the completely different shape. Plus, it just looked cheap, like it was from a Geo Metro (my baseline for cheap construction -- everything on that car was a cheap stamping, including the axle nuts). Anyway, it's all back together, tuned and test-run. During this process, I discovered that the heater valve control cable had become detached. The set screw was spinning in the cable clamp, but a new screw seemed to fix that. While I was at it, I thought I would try to center the steering wheel, which had been bugging me -- it was a tooth off-center. But in order to undo the nut, I had to remove the horn button, and starting this procedure brought to mind the problems I had had installing the new steering wheel, which was slightly thicker. Anyway, the three set screws around the edge of the hub all had stripped slots. I managed to back one out purely using friction. Then I unbolted the wheel from the adapter by removing the perimeter screws. I couldn't remove the wheel, which was still trapped by the horn button, but it gave me enough wiggle room to rotate the button and pry it off. Then I loosened the center nut and removed the hub, and took it to my workbench to get the stripped set screws out. I managed to remove two of them and fab up replacements -- the horn button has a notch, so it can be slipped on over a single fixed set screw. I had marked the hub position, so I refitted it one tooth over, got the wheel back together and tested the horn, which operated no more erratically then previously. So I chalked that up as a win. But if I actually want to drive it anywhere, I suppose I need to bow to the calendar and fit the hardtop. Today, for instance, started off sunny, then featured a succession of torrential downpours, many with the sun still shining. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 12/6/12 5:19 PM, Max Heim at mvheim@sonic.net wrote: > Well, my MGB has been inactive for some time, while I have been sorting out > the carburetors. Here is a partial rundown of the process so far: > > [Problem -- solution] > Sticky piston -- fitted a different suction chamber; dismantled, cleaned and > reassembled both carbs; centered jets. > Pulled the pipe out of the jet when refitting -- ordered new jet from Moss. > Rear carb not returning to idle -- removed idle cam & spring and reassembled > with washers in correct position. > Rear carb still not returning to idle -- discovered throttle lever was loose > on shaft; peened lever, added washer. > Rear carb STILL not returning to idle -- discovered shaft was bulging at > ends of butterfly slot, causing it to stick; sanded down shaft to round > section. > > The array is reassembled (again), but between downpours and early sundowns I > haven't got them set up or synced yet. > > Missed a scheduled backroad run on the last sunny weekend, too. > > > -- > > Max Heim > '66 MGB GHN3L76149 > If you're near Menlo Park, CA, > it's the primer red one with chrome wires _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 22 12:21:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700B640442 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:21:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB89403EF for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:20:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 13so7636424iea.21 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:19:08 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KR6jt/bzPoZt8o61BSNXdVwGTmE7seR3hbaAiEJLwCU=; b=hkczyxY8+QedDAdUOcQ4b8YGc0DsB1C/havgAVxk+VBzR5geFvtzAknwgEghGnsXpy V3vvtpInK2lgC+X8W9tMD6algEqJ23X8a/vINCvfRMv3u5orX3/4XDYcI7D0n9iuZqMk zd2vDFUc7qGBxvrJIr2HqilNi+6ZfuurdtO2x1EFwbrMPe0H5d0jC9GnViimGtVn3iOg ctJs+Jx+uDiOC+cOCOveipWTcze3j2FNi3num73Ky4//+s2hGgyr4n/zd5sa11NNFZO8 J7Ph7nhffWUUAJVw5jmrMPhuf7wVmfG4UsyMktIELuaVQZofsC/joLtVaryFOxZfHyBk BBYA== Received: by 10.50.7.135 with SMTP id j7mr12200108iga.82.1356203948701; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.77.33 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:19:08 -0800 (PST) References: <1355244234.30399.YahooMailNeo@web125204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <522DC943C6D4444FB796ABD7186BDAC9@paul> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:19:08 -0800 From: Simon Matthews To: PaulHunt73 Cc: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Evan's waterless coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I have had the temperature gauge on my MGA showing about 100 lbs (look carefully at an MGA temp/oil dial to see what I mean). Didn't seem to be a problem. I run a non-standard 14 lb radiator cap and I did not notice any great water loss. Simon On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:34 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote: > If it's not steaming or losing coolant, it's not overheating. Unlike > modern cars where the temperature gauge is 'modified' so that it stays in > the same place through all normal variations in temperature, it's quite > normal for this era of car to go up and down according to conditions. I've > seen both my V8 and roadster on the edge of the H zone in very warm weather > and neither lost any coolant. If it's fluctuating, or high in cool > weather, then that is a cause for investigation, not trying a different > coolant. > > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> ... I have a AH >> 100-4 that sometimes runs hotter than I think it should ... >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/mgs/simon.d.matthews@ > **gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 23 04:34:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BBE40E17 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 04:34:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f174.google.com (mail-we0-f174.google.com [74.125.82.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA697403F4 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 04:34:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id x10so2893513wey.5 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 03:32:40 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:from:to:cc:references:subject:date :mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer :x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=Cm4QzcHtPrD2PInGft/gd+HktS84ZIIKEKe4CKN6dLo=; b=oKKrfDfq7YHvYU6wkqNBoUDDInb/Awc2HbBem72YYE9Yz282k+Eq0Vbl08Dw+50MJA a6N+3ldI+QIQFE1URKrLSY36M6QvJUjB/3X4iOetWA5Im0MrkpPfsNGYBTMbTlU5vgR2 QjZYz9ZFzIbROHFvMLq5x9m1LzESY2m+40+tFBXQBqxZgo29fR+mLKmEFB1CXU/JJODy Tp/8DaU9NFHmdY1sLTu4pW36b6TTaUEf6EjlwkjMOiEm4a/TU6K18sksKqI0q/LOAigC ITqegFXCemv6GYVkFMrcR5rMCAtO9M9SOKL4iUb/J5JgRseEd/j648+mN7XH0gECxze9 3xIQ== cn20mr31429844wjb.51.1356262360596; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 03:32:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from paul (know-mailgateway-1.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm27662951wiw.4.2012.12.23.03.32.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 23 Dec 2012 03:32:39 -0800 (PST) From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Simon Matthews" References: <1355244234.30399.YahooMailNeo@web125204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><522DC943C6D4444FB796ABD7186BDAC9@paul> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:15:49 -0000 Cc: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Evan's waterless coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Me too, I've seen the V8 with its temp needle at 60psi :o) Although that was from steam from a blocked steam pipe, not the actual coolant temperature. ----- Original Message ----- I have had the temperature gauge on my MGA showing about 100 lbs (look carefully at an MGA temp/oil dial to see what I mean). _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 23 15:00:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EA640E92 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:00:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E58D40E33 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:59:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2012 21:58:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.75] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2012 21:58:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2012 21:58:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 72972 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 2012 21:58:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1356299894; bh=gjenQUqiNOWY53R6lKBBq/noX/5D3Qyvypm7lo6BVTw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Mm85AIqWdFAAwEbPoI1QHYZ+rTMrps9BecO/MsVYVziw1RHNGGO9TKfCfj2HFsTptmDrIQGOkRZOg1i8Cky1WhCIXru7wOoLlgTc8GIti2u+D4D0H5+Pg0nb7bV35r4IXgC3f8LEJUTeZlyl6Q1To8OlJhWoqBbBSm1AAlPkUAE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OQCKpWn0fBlrM/6OA5VSQjVHrEvZk3eviqHIiTwUyN9xgkooYc56WKSCTn1Y9qVquzVypFDR2k9Y4h/vneh/+c8prIpqYQjXHmLfROJKxVzDGvLucqrzVY3Jejk7YTIf0pErkgRQlWd1pFak9gSlFxqyCNmaD4/SUyockWf0Sf4=; 7b4GY120_wr1BXMbV3Y7VBbrFzE8s0VGaeJfbMaL1QFFEmX8Hq35eUWFhBC6 9Btb.Z7Co9jkuy7BlHHQqdavbv8mUCXdzKiER6cH648Qdb.3Vwq5xCjGTD88 dFjcITFy52KPNThvYoa3f91cn3NokuFPxtdlOTRvi_zIKWPXEc8aseUS.4sa ZIgOqlUX2YQkpSKS38dxVW_krVPCO6Tp7wdgXfro9PYHkJEL7CB2Qs2aiLxD VQZDtBGM3HBphcWVV5rJe7yqQUauEWsL7N0ryGyvDFUU3JR2Vimj1o0ED6vI mTBUhdzOgja3KhOUHH7wxNFmNFoioOY6boBSt779.QaIY6dJmIweWigpBpwa HwVzGq2gmVbzIX8UcjsUgrBGGJ2gtI0Zh52An89XbqkbeERuj4qg2d3nwnUc Opi1guNTd4H7bX8f3utZaDvdB3eVLnWrS83isXyqyh_7ioYbpXasI7EB3p70 05ylLdVtt0Tjl_g-- Received: from [107.192.134.236] by web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:58:14 PST Li4uSSB0ZW5kIHRvIGFzayBteSBNRyBmcmllbmRzIC0gZXZlbiBmb3Igbm9uLU1HIHF1ZXN0cyEgOi0pCgpJJ20gcmVidWlsZGluZyBhIGZyaWVuZHMgTG90dXMtRm9yZCBUd2luQ2FtIGVuZ2luZSBmcm9tIGhpcyAnNjUgRWxhbi4gIEknbSBoYXZpbmcgdHJvdWJsZSBzb3VyY2luZyB0aGUgY29ycmVjdCBvaWwgZmlsdGVyIGNhcnRyaWRnZSBmb3IgdGhpcyBlbmdpbmUuICBIZXJlJ3MgdGhlIGJhY2sgc3Rvcnk7CgpNYW55IG9mIHRoZXNlIGVuZ2luZXMgaGF2ZSBzZWVuIGxvbmcgbGlmZSBhbmQgdGhlIHB1bXABMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:58:14 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] When the quest becomes tough... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net ...I tend to ask my MG friends - even for non-MG quests! :-) I'm rebuilding a friends Lotus-Ford TwinCam engine from his '65 Elan. I'm having trouble sourcing the correct oil filter cartridge for this engine. Here's the back story; Many of these engines have seen long life and the pumps have been changed to the later spin-on filter design. This engine died early on and sat for 15+ years. It still has the original pump in excellent condition, and we want to keep it. The problem is that there was a design change between the first cartridge element and the spin on design, resulting in an intermediate cartridge - and the intermediate is by far, the more readily available element. Our engine needs the first, early design. Can (and if so, will) any of you kind folks who have played with the Lotus TwinC or the little Fords using this same bottom end, please offer a filter number? Thanks, in advance, and Merry Christmas! -rick / MG-less, at the moment _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net