From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 08:03:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906DF40442 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 08:03:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EA840382 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 08:03:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Asus ([68.191.164.87]) by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id Xq1x1m00N1tTUX001q1zhR; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 07:02:00 -0700 From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:01:50 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6+rsZo6ILJmnSoSB2LmQnk5jWIGQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] MGC resources Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings one & all, I'm resurrecting an MGC coupe that hasn't seen the road in 29 years. What online resources/parts vendors/clubs do you favor? The car is 99 % rust free. It's had some modifications done. Motor was fresh rebuilt, then sat. It was stuck... I've got it freed up. After getting it running and assessing the engine's health, I'll move on to hydraulics, then on to replacing the interior. I'm quite familiar with the Healey resources available... I'm looking for specific MGC help. WST _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 08:15:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD0240446 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 08:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc3-s11.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc3-s11.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.2.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06279403E2 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 08:15:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB123-DS6 ([157.55.2.7]) by dub0-omc3-s11.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 1 Oct 2013 07:13:45 -0700 From: Ulla & Sven Ordell To: "'Wm. Severin Thompson'" , References: <020001cebeae$c81e9f00$585bdd00$@com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:13:45 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6+rsZo6ILJmnSoSB2LmQnk5jWIGQAAHKXQ Content-Language: sv FILETIME=[70AB2930:01CEBEB0] Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGC resources Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi WM, Good, I hope you will find the MGC rewarding. I think you know that the engine is quite different to the 3000. The interior is, of course the same as same year MBGs, Brakes, including the servos in principle, are same as late BJ8s. Chassis front of the seats are totally different from MGBs, other body parts usually the same as MGBs. That said I favour Brown&Gammons in the UK for parts, they have an online service. Feel free to contact me off line if you have any specific questions. Best regards Sven Sweden MGC GT and Austin Healey 3000 mk 3. -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Fvr Wm. Severin Thompson Skickat: den 1 oktober 2013 16:02 Till: mgs@autox.team.net Dmne: [Mgs] MGC resources Greetings one & all, I'm resurrecting an MGC coupe that hasn't seen the road in 29 years. What online resources/parts vendors/clubs do you favor? The car is 99 % rust free. It's had some modifications done. Motor was fresh rebuilt, then sat. It was stuck... I've got it freed up. After getting it running and assessing the engine's health, I'll move on to hydraulics, then on to replacing the interior. I'm quite familiar with the Healey resources available... I'm looking for specific MGC help. WST _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/bispmotala@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 11:17:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0AE4040F for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:17:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9138240356 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:13:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6624A7000009D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mhb001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.187.193]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1CE7EE000082 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:12:04 -0400 (EDT) From: DMatt21502@aol.com Full-name: DMatt21502 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:12:03 -0400 (EDT) To: Mgs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380647524; bh=VbyUBMM88c5jD9SAXAN9uUYpgWtnKumJIO7Avg9nVrY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=phAZgzuj0HtkItdGU031SMWQvK17yYaMDWtdS2qnrPnpXXOp7JSEm4dtGk8rabVJU OO2/ADrzKeOqCRKjeeyvNHlj269xojz6r1HcA/P5yaOjSW6d009jmC0rD04OTbpp6C DBWXhF7LP6KXImuHM1ye+ElnkjPcBZMfdUZcg9WA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3389524b02644839 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Offense Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, Please do not quit posting on the MGs site. Recently your post have been about the only reason I have for checking the site. Obviously there are some folks out there that are jealous of your work and the progress you have made on the T. Just my 2 cents worth. Dave _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 10:32:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA70940522 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:32:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from atmail2.bezeqint.net (atmail2.bezeqint.net [192.115.191.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F8840401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (atmail2.bezeqint.net [127.0.0.1]) by atmail2.bezeqint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C50410CD50 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:31:02 +0300 (IDT) To: Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:31:02 +0300 From: rmort@bezeqint.net Subject: [Mgs] Fwd: Re: Offense Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, please stay on the MGS list. i am purely a MGB guy, the T list will be mostly noise for me (and I assume for many others as well) I have enjoyed your updates, the descriptions, the pictures, and the constant feeling of progress are the most interesting thing that has happened on this list in a long time. (at least since the days of cats, zappa, and towing :) ---- WWWWW"W WWW'WW(WW* ---- >W*WW(WW:B B Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:30:29 -0500 >WWW*:B B Richard Lindsay >W WW)W:B B [Mgs] Offense >WW:B B "mgs@autox.team.net [2] List" , "mg- t@autox.team.net [4]" > >Hello Friends, > >In an earlier note today I vented a bit and in doing so, I have >offended a list-member or two. Please know that I was just blowing off >steam - and in the wrong forum. For that, I am sorry. > >To better remove the possibility of offense, and from here on, I will >constrain my posts to MG-T and not the wider MGS forum. Again, my >apologies to those whom I may have offended. > >-rick >_______________________________________________ Links: ------ [1] mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com [2] mailto:mgs@autox.team.net [3] mailto:mgs@autox.team.net [4] mailto:t@autox.team.net [5] mailto:mg-t@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 10:55:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1716B42707 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:55:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE94A40408 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:52:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YEgN1m00X0S2fkCABGrFtG; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:51:15 +0000 Received: from sgorrAcer7 ([67.186.103.251]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YGrE1m00C5RTD578VGrEDu; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:51:15 +0000 From: "Steven Gorr" To: , References: <64573.1380731462@bezeqint.net> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 11:51:14 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1380732675; bh=2p8Tf8rJQwSmyo7bvriH2kjkYQMuZh3im7hQhhJ34Ts=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=iUmhYpUY2Hu+FvaXBkUD6JzSCEwv+rlFt2zmFVn5GpMXNWMWufpMfY2QDilT5n9Pt /lVxBDnjWXcQrZWjLHpjVcXXQ/znqbVrvMANa8gDNUlBgPwaGqSgvw/aD2dLxxwBgX wYqkPwx5oqN1A66XvD58rUcIuXoEOumIj8pCZzwQEsczts0zRWS10u/BwxLAZoWEgI Ayu/pA+Wrqy2XFBFio2j93RlWTjp6pQgnjoH9nDrsR8HhO0SmwEmtXRQWkYcLT1KAM dWZtwqVuYRuXV3Z4f11eISB05vlrmvGoTh6y+YuLWMsckgYP2Ar3RWYegIP79Gqv4N i9mZn26tHPb0A== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Fwd: Re: Offense Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I second the request below. I too appreciate the feelings of progress on a major MG project. -----Original Message----- From: rmort@bezeqint.net Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:31 AM To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Fwd: Re: Offense Rick, please stay on the MGS list. i am purely a MGB guy, the T list will be mostly noise for me (and I assume for many others as well) I have enjoyed your updates, the descriptions, the pictures, and the constant feeling of progress are the most interesting thing that has happened on this list in a long time. (at least since the days of cats, zappa, and towing :) ---- WWWWW"W WWW'WW(WW* ---- >W*WW(WW:B B Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:30:29 -0500 >WWW*:B B Richard Lindsay >W WW)W:B B [Mgs] Offense >WW:B B "mgs@autox.team.net [2] List" , "mg- t@autox.team.net [4]" > >Hello Friends, > >In an earlier note today I vented a bit and in doing so, I have >offended a list-member or two. Please know that I was just blowing off >steam - and in the wrong forum. For that, I am sorry. > >To better remove the possibility of offense, and from here on, I will >constrain my posts to MG-T and not the wider MGS forum. Again, my >apologies to those whom I may have offended. > >-rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 12:43:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F145E40533 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:43:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail966c35.carrierzone.com (mail966c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.156]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED28440321 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:38:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail966c35.carrierzone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail966c35.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r92IbVdJ024422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:37:31 GMT Received: (from webmail@localhost) by mail966c35.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id r92IbVHm024416 for mgs@autox.team.net; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:37:31 GMT Received: from 99-194-27-8.dyn.centurytel.net (99-194-27-8.dyn.centurytel.net [99.194.27.8]) by webmail2.centurytel.net (Webmail 4.0 V.V.I.) with HTTP for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:37:31 -0400 From: ejrussell@mebtel.net To: mgs@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:37:31 -0400 User-Agent: Webmail 4.0 a=vFMCQZgPscsA:10 a=P2oOn6vrs4wA:10 a=GPr01A5e9VcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=S2--7BlOqBjqnALiUegA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=uBEZArmezLsA:10 a=0JEvF1sjM2EA:10 a=WkljmVdYkabdwxfqvArNOQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Offense Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I, too, enjoy your T progress. I will be offended if you leave the MGs list. Eric Russell Mebane, NC _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 14:36:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07C540545 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 14:36:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f171.google.com (mail-pd0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6EA40526 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 14:36:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id g10so1460475pdj.16 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=02kKGwzY9kUimWQHp4L7hCcmY1LUY5gvVGrFgopxyEI=; b=0qQLrLWfSEFpPMXMC4IUrHbY5TI/mXcP7fgVTpf4WyN2MheAEySI2GYHAPYzdOc2Pg UVFRBKuUQBp58o+2lXECTcPJP+xbIayGQACNW9OL/yytoknY2xQPWDYPhoD+iqjA274F 4rbidlYLAmupNs0aYxvy72jgaqIr1bwRA2/yAP1RB8alNslmWS+HeYWdaqTFCNWI0APh IdaFumLAXHlTruumj5M8NE3uOKMiuBEC7DHXS2hi/oYEyYptBUH9xMhVB4SuqSlz57dD UPUa1+W9ER+xfL9TTVoEKRU4xUiudGdeaVX5aT5tu9eb5FTPk55H3ab0WEoqjwki2VOu sMKw== lp8mr5207628pab.82.1380746090031; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.12.228 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 13:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:34:49 -0500 From: Jack Feldman To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] MGC Resources Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wm., Don't for get the MGC Registry and our great annual event. We were going to take advantage of the NAMGIBR offer the take us under their umbrella, but that seems to have gone awry. As a result things are in flux for the registry, and the website is not available. It will be as soon the Registry reinvents itself. Both Moss and Victoria British include the C in their catalogs. I would avoid VB at all costs, but there might be some information you could use in their catalog. There is another stateside vendor that has advertised with us for years. Kirks-auto.com is his web site.I haven't bought from him in some time, but he was good to deal with. He has a pdf. file of a combination of C parts manuals. It might be helpful to download. The first time I tried to negotiate a sharp corner in my just acquired C, I thought it would roll over. As you know, the car was a disaster when released, but time and patience has conquered the initial problems. Spax adjustable shocks, an uprated torsion bar, and a change in tire pressure solved that problem. It is a great car, and I once drove from a C meeting in Pensacola to my home in Downers grove in 18 hours. Over 1,600 miles. No problems with comfort, and a smooth trip at 70mph with cruise control. Of course, I started at 2:30AM when there was no one on the road, and `Interstates almost all the way. Good luck on your restoration. You have just joined a group of great folks. Jack _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 17:49:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6F140437 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:49:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04834040E; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:47:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x16so1147340vbf.10 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:45:39 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yKD6k6HLxk0P/sp+424ZuZpRpUzbtAcllygQLVELaYY=; b=WWKBlVRIyIIMwFAowVJmF/oe2tqL3y80li0njK/sl86dib/8PxR5l+FfSesQqcpmS3 qy4pNUFUuHFjHi/m2cQaD5Kb17t1c3MHZoC8Nn6rwuf/C+TmC1PtUsf2NYOmiSncXf2+ 4U9n9c6vOaRHI35wCrqR3kmYGipZxjqZXOuR/eKsGMomi9Xh83vJF/NLz3aaOTCHR5cr 8K4DjFKlX2NgTQKTo9xP+oM1+1Jpq701oefokVhAhGDnIpPSFPSrFiUrl7DFj0Q15sDW loeyHF3EItAcePEtm1g1pP8FrQaKSVbTfuDvub0BqFsGvYn1sQMKKi8qFjPZpXLvc4Km A4Xw== vj14mr4453625vcb.17.1380757539489; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.118.163 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:45:39 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mgs] M.G. stress management Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Time for a smile. Here's a picture of my TD upon arrival at my home, last March. It is a scene all too familiar to LBC owners. :-P http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/DSC05177.JPG -rick PS: I'm the guy in the grey t-shirt helping with the pushing... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 17:50:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDD140526 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:50:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp-fo.knology.synacor.com [64.8.71.118]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4995403E6 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:48:24 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:117 a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=AhRLOILGsKkA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=QP5IY3kgAAAA:8 a=ju8_TntCPCAA:10 a=RE42-caOIvTzPJw-9w0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=l5QiJV3QPX0A:10 a=w76f_XTwn9gA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.knology.synacor.com smtp.mail=runner01@wowway.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.knology.synacor.com header.from=runner01@wowway.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.knology.synacor.com: 96.27.166.67 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of wowway.com) Received: from [96.27.166.67] ([96.27.166.67:58919] helo=AcerPC) by smtp.mail.wowway.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 6C/D7-19727-670BC425; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:47:02 -0400 From: "Ray Graham" To: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:46:27 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6/yZyOWhNynLeISGuFGamvLr/qhA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] MGB Hardtop Gasket Replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Gang: Where can I buy a replacement gasket for a Snugfit hardtop rear to deck for my MGB? Or, suggestion(s) about what might work? Thanks, Ray _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 18:21:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A729340432 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:21:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFED4032B for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:20:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (173-228-28-30.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r930JX65017124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:19:36 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 17:17:13 -0700 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] MGB Hardtop Gasket Replacement Thread-Index: Ac6/yZyOWhNynLeISGuFGamvLr/qhAABEvvS Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB Hardtop Gasket Replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Steele Rubber has a catalog where you can look for your gasket profile. http://steelerubber.com/sponge-extrusions My Snugtop pretty much needs all the seals, just haven't got around to it. on 10/2/13 4:46 PM, Ray Graham at runner01@wowway.com wrote: > Hey Gang: > Where can I buy a replacement gasket for a Snugfit hardtop rear to deck for > my MGB? Or, suggestion(s) about what might work? > > Thanks, > Ray -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 08:34:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE75940425 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 08:34:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B644009B for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 08:34:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20131003143302.VJRH3842.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 10:33:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([72.199.157.107]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id YeZ21m00X2KJoQg01eZ2C5; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 10:33:02 -0400 a=v4+1TVkVnhocx6iSoA/Zcg==:17 a=KiVbQdkf6L0A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=XXZzgs4MnqEA:10 a=W4uCbKaqAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=wjDsQfKG8Qi1ppsOlmoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=mJZ_v0mNyxEA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=v4+1TVkVnhocx6iSoA/Zcg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=stargazer1@cox.net Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 07:33:02 -0700 From: David Ambrose User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] M.G. stress management Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I think you're telling us here that your wife has driven the car more than you have. :-) Cheers. Dave Ambrose On 10/2/2013 4:45 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hi Friends, > > Time for a smile. Here's a picture of my TD upon arrival at my home, > last March. It is a scene all too familiar to LBC owners. :-P > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/DSC05177.JPG > > -rick > PS: I'm the guy in the grey t-shirt helping with the pushing... > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/stargazer1@cox.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 11:53:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA72C40419 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 11:53:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews07.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews07.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB7D403F3 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 11:53:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cpsps-ews02.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.169]) by cpsmtpb-ews07.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:51:38 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT103.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.19]) by cpsps-ews02.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:51:38 +0200 Received: from PolderPC ([77.171.11.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:51:38 +0200 From: "Hans Duinhoven" To: , References: <5a43d.53377c82.3f7c5c63@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:51:43 +0200 Thread-Index: AQJBqEsA1+CSZ2XB48h6uDEXXprNbpj9cbMg Content-Language: nl FILETIME=[356D9DA0:01CEC061] Subject: Re: [Mgs] Offense Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Agree! Keep posting Rick! Cheers, Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens DMatt21502@aol.com Verzonden: dinsdag 1 oktober 2013 19:12 Aan: Mgs@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Offense Rick, Please do not quit posting on the MGs site. Recently your post have been about the only reason I have for checking the site. Obviously there are some folks out there that are jealous of your work and the progress you have made on the T. Just my 2 cents worth. Dave _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 12:10:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8067540450 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 12:10:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132054009B for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 12:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 10:56:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.244] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 10:56:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 10:56:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 63933 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2013 10:56:17 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380797777; bh=F9ich7ylH5x70wVJ45SzEaaD/cPQ6iziS+ApGh9r2TI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Bcq5oNWmAIRtWP6FXvQzc1o76U6xHIKj7DGBpEivj8JniWR6QPqg55AT8R1U/gusywdAqKMOLOTV4F++OKvl/+LGDGNKaeqlfBz8tm3eXQgmS/XGsSolsjXutJyAzICHTYVFHXfCckgyCn+zaBFfhgefhE+kMd2ltnvj5rrA8kk= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jm1LRP3pZD+EolQOorQ8zCYS7ELJpxz4W7iqCYAeJdkxNTLGZjI/n3jLeExCnqcti4We/82ZYXQTKIJsNW7Br8WF39DmUrFKN1hQ+dJ+Fy+KWf67ndt31eCiN5BcwDGA2OBHy2d0xIfbXBN1XNR7Z/gRjiqlKALhsofI5HEGbdo=; j5E1B4nj3YBGhKXaf7IRncN5n6wDXpdGHI2ZRJB1ZZhLgTZddXRKdXKifp8A bkPfS1NKP4WTel.5bWhN_HyfSBV7uBNiILVbZ1Am80wcSZ5yNjyZgKoEKcEd rvO9ZipPVathYmeuFpM.PLkzCIXXafrLX93hhvM2.HQ1XxZpAR0hTaANcGDX paI4HOyBLPU3ZR60YfjgpZMbKaQlbUATFGBWJUXK_XilLkecxZZ88X2zvvYg dDp5GtNxb.3LFi5KVRaPzuRHclec6MQtKGhvO4w6KT1uBB.LfXUyY5BN1gM. 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Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" ; "mg-t@autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: [Mgs] M.G. stress management Hi Friends, Time for a smile. Here's a picture of my TD upon arrival at my home, last March. It is a scene all too familiar to LBC owners. :-P http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/DSC05177.JPG -rick PS: I'm the guy in the grey t-shirt helping with the pushing... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 13:10:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34C440522 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:10:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f42.google.com (mail-ee0-f42.google.com [74.125.83.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A03E403F3 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:10:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f42.google.com with SMTP id b45so1320463eek.15 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 12:08:35 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index:content-language; bh=Jhhi39WB/4fs7SdkCD2lzxvWG3tuJEG7n0TA8SNFV94=; b=iJ7htyekOIdI0ZEQmWVCjDnAZxu4jb+irZ796fe2TXDh+sO9NKl5kU9bJwQddq5Gf0 8+HtIkXQeTG369kgE9y5RKyhMLbla1laNBZfwP1AlxKSb7kYFLUr97ghBoN9G0Crr24Q 4OExTp5kE0c9nIdeAOybAQudhrlt2r1VKQ8gg0aubSsBgjEyq/7PyZZ6ahcRyKKTZCId +Wny6YUlJ/+mrmbjKYTR0BHPY0xutgBcGus2Vt3hUWUd6UTCyE1eyxrBO7LerBaLNNWH bcZ1cHqgjQBVaQHhg5emP2pE3szWnDdr54zYoCK/9waldreUVEYy8lVPOfADS/lypHug GHKA== Thu, 03 Oct 2013 12:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DAFFY (dD57716EA.access.telenet.be. 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Best wishes, Will MGBGT 1973 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 14:49:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD9B40424 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:49:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [64.8.71.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879D24040C for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:49:12 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:117 a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=AhRLOILGsKkA:10 a=QP5IY3kgAAAA:8 a=ju8_TntCPCAA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=UCvXsXOuDDP9LCKUDzsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=BG137Kvya7gA:10 a=V-Fr7cNOrmwA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=8R2dgVlf_0y-GexWYc4A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.knology.synacor.com header.from=runner01@wowway.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.knology.synacor.com smtp.mail=runner01@wowway.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.knology.synacor.com: 96.27.166.67 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of wowway.com) Received: from [96.27.166.67] ([96.27.166.67:54630] helo=AcerPC) by smtp.mail.wowway.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id BF/14-30173-E897B425; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:40:30 -0400 From: "Ray Graham" To: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 20:40:00 -0500 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac6/EE7uleCdkJnmTLKevr2zyHvFCg== Subject: [Mgs] MGB Hardtop Gasket Replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Were can I buy a replacemnt rear gasket to the deck for a Snugfit hardtop for my MGB? Thanks, Ray _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 17:34:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6317940534 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 17:34:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF77840433 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 17:34:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 12:19:19 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.206] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 12:19:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 12:19:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5964 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2013 12:19:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380802759; bh=vcD4tOk5BkCpgD4Ijq+ByLTzzp3NsqD4/da95j1PO8s=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TE44n4rDuHmORAvyzQBjh9zdZHlQjnu0ZZXzF8vwnG/hJ6GCFnQjAN1HNz0pIbERHBaxCDHxGQOiWsStcdhcd9BOrpGGX2AOOgL3AuULsMXCu3jwt46sVc8EHC5XQgHtd3JuFvJRXaTPsQ/MWo1Sq7ohMpzRc50eO17PJBI8UKw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tpITkv66/0hqS4H3IbawWY1b0JX3Lk1uWVZSKfWzWVGTUam3nexrlNoHuU7JPsKrg93o1WTUChA2oIWXgbLl4GD/2Vj/wKo90jZPtYnxa31N/F6980KxX4lBk11nxCza2V6+8NV278gg3ehI5dty1UfybXLrz6LIzobmcBfTiUY=; HT4VWRV2TGnOAwIj46i7FYwTAESF6.I13nQBjIYr4Degckx9ktbGlauub2xU JuyYPDkswxlRnhZ7yn89ObNd2n_iJ8_3WQ129VzE.Yn_TqKvdt_bwnWBlYRu _0D5mLkfmyOV_FYv3NJ6MlR5T7gVwzSpPglrkiIGJliw80v3H9Je7eEsYCKx 89dFWqIhvhxv0ynMivbBkrEzhOli1M5dD.cMbM41e1GFIwlxkUV72axF8aVq O69bpdLUFwFdPdadfNTAE0olIp8KrobU8MvlhGWYV4T3zQ4go8wBqJZPopw7 PbRGlbXVytGzw3ZLwF0N7_nhk_Q4FbSNWdFuMlrMwfbT86XuFS11uCU8vsqM Dspx0BjjutxcmdWrUVnM7GeoywtxatUcMp_PH_5wyIqbzV8Xb6ftQTCJq7CN n3J8m1OR2gBcC_1S44lVjWpg3SsuSwXYSpbKo3wXF0oU7gJip_2A8MS6GU1m Q5C8cXWc2h0NMnYhsxV0y8g9RzlhSNDOPFrujtcmBqGwM0COw6QlADpAzGn3 pUqjamFXmWPWb1BE_Ikl4kOmFLbC9J3nvwUZUKAPuTl2X9OhEf4O_bt8mKHQ v1THIVdD757nYUK4MchkkKfBsQhv7pr50 Received: from [69.248.132.241] by web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 05:19:19 PDT SSdtIG5vdCBub3JtYWxseSBhIGJpZyBmYW4gb2YgZWFybHkgQidzIGNvbnZlcnRlZCB0byBWOCdzLCBidXQgdGhvdWdodCB0aGlzIHdhcyBpbnRlcmVzdGluZyAtIHNhdyBpdCBvbiBCcmluZyBhIFRyYWlsZXIuIFN1cHBvc2VkbHkgY29udmVydGVkIAoKdG8gYSBGb3JkIFY4IGJhY2sgaW4gMTk2OS4gSSBsb3ZlIHRoZSBzdG9jayBsb29rLCBlc3BlY2lhbGx5IHRoZSBzaW5nbGUgZXhoYXVzdCwgYnV0IHdvdWxkIGxvdmUgYSA1LXNwZWVkIG1hbnVhbCBpbiBpdC4uLi4KCmh0dHA6Ly90aW55dXJsLmNvbS9sdWEBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 05:19:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan DiBiase To: MG List , MGB-Yahoo Subject: [Mgs] '63 B V8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm not normally a big fan of early B's converted to V8's, but thought this was interesting - saw it on Bring a Trailer. Supposedly converted to a Ford V8 back in 1969. I love the stock look, especially the single exhaust, but would love a 5-speed manual in it.... http://tinyurl.com/luaty5o Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 19:18:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A88E40545 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:18:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [64.8.71.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E44640074 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:18:22 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:117 a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=MfMjykdpYiMA:10 a=AhRLOILGsKkA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=QP5IY3kgAAAA:8 a=P89a25f1MDkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=752mObrIAAAA:8 a=Bgck_RQ4H2UMMgPDYKEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=zEoJXyrrGmEA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.knology.synacor.com smtp.mail=runner01@wowway.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.knology.synacor.com header.from=runner01@wowway.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.knology.synacor.com: 96.27.166.67 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of wowway.com) Received: from [96.27.166.67] ([96.27.166.67:50787] helo=AcerPC) by smtp.mail.wowway.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 69/44-11612-7071E425; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 21:16:56 -0400 From: "Ray Graham" To: "'Max Heim'" , "'MG List'" References: <001501cebfc9$9ce8fe90$d6bafbb0$@wowway.com> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 20:16:53 -0500 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQCEq8TSBcPnGPx6OBhpju8t11LfGJx35yNw Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB Hardtop Gasket Replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Max, they do have a good selection. Ray -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Max Heim Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:17 PM To: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB Hardtop Gasket Replacement Steele Rubber has a catalog where you can look for your gasket profile. http://steelerubber.com/sponge-extrusions My Snugtop pretty much needs all the seals, just haven't got around to it. on 10/2/13 4:46 PM, Ray Graham at runner01@wowway.com wrote: > Hey Gang: > Where can I buy a replacement gasket for a Snugfit hardtop rear to > deck for my MGB? Or, suggestion(s) about what might work? > > Thanks, > Ray -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/runner01@wowway.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 12:45:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57C440512 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 12:45:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews08.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews08.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3F340419 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 12:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cpsps-ews12.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.179]) by cpsmtpb-ews08.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:43:59 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-cmt107.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.23]) by cpsps-ews12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:43:59 +0200 Received: from PolderPC ([77.171.11.159]) by CPSMTPM-cmt107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:43:59 +0200 From: "Hans Duinhoven" To: "'Dan DiBiase'" , "'MG List'" , "'MGB-Yahoo'" References: <1380802759.84792.YahooMailNeo@web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:44:06 +0200 Content-Language: nl Thread-Index: AQJyMMjis1SlWcQteaoh58+3O3hhjZieAOfA FILETIME=[B02A8D20:01CEC131] Subject: Re: [Mgs] '63 B V8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This car would not pass MOT safety test overhere. When cornering hard, the battery will tip over - not very professionally mounted. Tells a bit more about the rest over what further to expect... Cheers, Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Dan DiBiase Verzonden: donderdag 3 oktober 2013 14:19 Aan: MG List; MGB-Yahoo Onderwerp: [Mgs] '63 B V8 I'm not normally a big fan of early B's converted to V8's, but thought this was interesting - saw it on Bring a Trailer. Supposedly converted to a Ford V8 back in 1969. I love the stock look, especially the single exhaust, but would love a 5-speed manual in it.... http://tinyurl.com/luaty5o Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/h.duinhoven@planet.nl _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 14:36:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270D140519 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from eta.look.ca (eta.look.ca [216.66.192.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F94A403FE for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:36:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from e120-pool-d89a412c.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.65.44] helo=tower.look.ca) by eta.look.ca with esmtpa (user vectis@look.ca)(Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VSC55-0003Ml-SQ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:34:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:34:48 -0400 To: Dan DiBiase ,MG List , MGB-Yahoo From: Barrie Robinson > References: <1380802759.84792.YahooMailNeo@web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] '63 B V8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Forgot to mention that the Ford V8 weighs over 200lbs more than a Rover V8 ! So the car has a permanent big heavy passenger all the time !!! At 05:19 AM 10/3/2013 -0700, Dan DiBiase wrote: >I'm not normally a big fan of early B's converted to V8's, but >thought this was interesting - saw it on Bring a Trailer. Supposedly converted > >to a Ford V8 back in 1969. I love the stock look, especially the >single exhaust, but would love a 5-speed manual in it.... > >http://tinyurl.com/luaty5o > >Dan D >'76B, '65B >Central NJ USA >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca Regards Barrie barrie@look.ca 705-721-9060 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 5 13:32:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5DB4294F for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 13:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E6400A4 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 12:45:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-1-imp with bizsmtp id ZTre1m0114LtS4201Tre0n; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 16:51:38 +0100 a=hPusamSANxoA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=SFIpMYh4kv4A:10 a=I8GTMyK4Iw6HI3ZA_FEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=H8911bwf__gA:10 a=TW3ParkSrEoA:10 a=p96HtsRjrH6-7PQXZ9YA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=2z6vBI9GZzb84T8Z:21 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: , "'MG List'" References: <1380802759.84792.YahooMailNeo@web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003301cec131$b4a9aca0$1dfd05e0$@planet.nl> <1380986484.71708.YahooMailNeo@web164905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 16:45:43 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Re: '63 B V8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Held down with a bungee! Hence Hans' comment. ----- Original Message ----- Barrie, it's been moved to the trunk in this particular car. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - But I do not understand the battery tipping over. The battery stays were it should - under the back seat and impossible to tip over ........Or do the early cars have their batteries elswhere? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 5 13:41:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B740442D63 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 13:41:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F594292F for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 13:22:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-1-imp with bizsmtp id ZMTs1m00Q4LtS4201MTsZo; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 10:27:52 +0100 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=pxFR65u4AAAA:20 a=Bg_G-dEdFQLx2gvE9HcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=HGpjph-wxMEA:10 a=TogYKqJbmAUA:10 a=vZ9_tAe_zkYA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "'MG List'" , "'MGB-Yahoo'" References: <1380802759.84792.YahooMailNeo@web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003301cec131$b4a9aca0$1dfd05e0$@planet.nl> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 10:20:02 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] '63 B V8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The horizontal oil cooler is a bit weird, can't see that helping much. ----- Original Message ----- > This car would not pass MOT safety test overhere. > When cornering hard, the battery will tip over - not very professionally > mounted. > > Onderwerp: [Mgs] '63 B V8 > > > http://tinyurl.com/luaty5o _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 04:35:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B7340533 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 04:35:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews04.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews04.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAD340528 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 04:34:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cpsps-ews12.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.179]) by cpsmtpb-ews04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sun, 6 Oct 2013 12:32:25 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT101.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.17]) by cpsps-ews12.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sun, 6 Oct 2013 12:32:26 +0200 Received: from PolderPC ([77.171.11.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Sun, 6 Oct 2013 12:32:26 +0200 From: "Hans Duinhoven" To: "'PaulHunt73'" , "'MG List'" , "'MGB-Yahoo'" References: <1380802759.84792.YahooMailNeo@web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003301cec131$b4a9aca0$1dfd05e0$@planet.nl> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 12:32:25 +0200 Thread-Index: AQJyMMjis1SlWcQteaoh58+3O3hhjQCRoewdAptys0+YhzQ7wA== Content-Language: nl FILETIME=[59A713C0:01CEC27F] Subject: Re: [Mgs] '63 B V8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net That's what I meant - I would not buy this car! No serious work done. Only optical. My 2 cts. Euro cents! -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens PaulHunt73 Verzonden: zaterdag 5 oktober 2013 11:20 Aan: 'MG List'; 'MGB-Yahoo' Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] '63 B V8 The horizontal oil cooler is a bit weird, can't see that helping much. ----- Original Message ----- > This car would not pass MOT safety test overhere. > When cornering hard, the battery will tip over - not very > professionally mounted. > > Onderwerp: [Mgs] '63 B V8 > > > http://tinyurl.com/luaty5o _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/h.duinhoven@planet.nl _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 18:45:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D4442973 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 18:45:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from alpha.look.ca (alpha.look.ca [216.66.192.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BBD40EBA for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 17:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from e120-pool-d89a412c.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.65.44] helo=Barrie-PC.look.ca) by alpha.look.ca with esmtpa (user vectis@look.ca)(Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VSy8M-0006eT-DC; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:53:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:53:01 -0400 To: "PaulHunt73" , "'MG List'" ,"'MGB-Yahoo'" From: Barrie Robinson References: <1380802759.84792.YahooMailNeo@web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003301cec131$b4a9aca0$1dfd05e0$@planet.nl> Subject: Re: [Mgs] '63 B V8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Paul, Haven't you heard of horizontal wind - sometimes called a "wind of change" At 10:20 AM 05/10/2013 +0100, PaulHunt73 wrote: >The horizontal oil cooler is a bit weird, can't see that helping much. > >----- Original Message ----- >>This car would not pass MOT safety test overhere. >>When cornering hard, the battery will tip over - not very professionally >>mounted. >>Onderwerp: [Mgs] '63 B V8 >> >>http://tinyurl.com/luaty5o >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca Regards, Barrie Barrie Robinson MGB GT V8 in concours condition Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.AMFClub.com www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca barrie@look.ca Barrie, Ontario 705-721-9060 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 02:18:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D774273A for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 02:18:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FD24054D for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 01:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id a7nV1m00E4LtS42017nVWJ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 08:47:29 +0100 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=BnFVTan1cVWGUYR8XMkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kiXhFxWqK0oA:10 a=6htpvQYFbSEA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "'MG List'" , "'MGB-Yahoo'" , "Barrie Robinson" References: <1380802759.84792.YahooMailNeo@web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003301cec131$b4a9aca0$1dfd05e0$@planet.nl> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:30:57 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] '63 B V8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net It would need a vertical wind, or a big wheelie ----- Original Message ----- > > Haven't you heard of horizontal wind - sometimes called a "wind of change" > > > At 10:20 AM 05/10/2013 +0100, PaulHunt73 wrote: >>The horizontal oil cooler is a bit weird, can't see that helping much. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 13:54:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE5B4042E for ; 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Back in the house taking a quick rest (and cooling off). Yea, its still pretty warm here in Houston, although not as bad as last week. Here are a series of pictures of the TD's front SU. I took these pictures for a number of reasons. First of all, I use the pictures to guarantee that things go back together the same way they came apart. Second, these pictures give me (and you) a look at just how grimy the carbs are/were. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131008_125144.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131008_134035.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131008_134040.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131008_134044.jpg More pictures soon, once everything is clean and proper, then assembled. -rick -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 16:25:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60CE40541 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:25:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EB740405; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hq15so1547942wib.16 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:31:20 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qak7SlD7fm79MeTgaElMaBwJLyiao58ldZwmlKVpsLk=; b=quhf1KiqVhIn3YFUJnVwwJYJSpyZuAVJSQV2h/83SDN32x4iNUs7hlIf8CdJed37eq MQS8l4845VL90raU6HXYBkUfEZBZN3SWIxbQgRe3CoDKbvrtY7Mn1R0XGRubh4USEjdW /FrBtcGemQuOGtzbUX3yrqEo/icYdPz2YnjosI+FZnBoH13IbFkaNx6pBHD95pSXqhWS MCOdIY6tUYu7qtaZuKcO1Rz+sbLo7TaF+KuaHcuwODMTmZK6jZuC7LLxZhOekcj6wN1k x4OYNLADD5mb/QJ/IsmT4/6vt8eCt8Krz/Iuvy6Hjbk0K5PT9LZQPI7GgrxIwF6tykY+ Lb0Q== o15mr25479430wiv.36.1381267880769; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.99.98 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:31:20 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Sure is pretty... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Referenced below are two pictures that explain perfectly WHY we restore these cars. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131008_161147.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131008_161153.jpg -rick PS: Rui, has this sequence of pictures tempted you to retune the MGA's SUs? Hope so! _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 08:55:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDC5429B3 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:55:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm36-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FF140454 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:52:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2013 14:52:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.234] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2013 14:52:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2013 14:52:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 55909 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2013 14:52:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381330340; bh=Ji/KKCy596fDe2MR1dudfyhZ8MDAyAiZR7xMcKpwSSE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1B3LIf8t0ZFnhzt5vFZ0abln6gbxK0tycu9OrWGrvmwnaZu421txzxWt//5EEfz3RYgXF5e48m3IxI9BZofc1SXNX6BVzoUomcb+mUVqtlxghv5vyJYBdQe3j9I93GgW8rUa+MoJQT8VwXk8UxrK1rwSWiRoinks0lxLsgoRVxw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UVHKz9o6kYcbZw/PnPEmyiw6Ifi8kBsTahDLRz/mtxcd2I74QomOH0qpgUt7Nqubk7dml8sMq84oBtRgxUU1g7525GTYTHfHNtUsf4FmQb3hkefUFyJIm7zv4uS63LW6G/kCtc6tWP0u9yGxVSKp3n+qSEDELx0peeHrYf0nIZc=; Yr5kRYXgQPZPzZ0f36TxTk8xzXXs7GEIVdd3OJO0PQ2HcACTDR32W3jFzyfS jbNnX3GPmbQlIyIYKIt2fkewyRAvfh7LcxkextdvORhoSSKE2RFhsQ6.JFMN 1xglFuBTufS0r7d.Bz6ghRW110iIiKVl1JvCw0MmIQys5p6FC9aVtNxgX5k7 aGGTroCilSaROZqBa30VVRowPfupU8.ujJmXt1jeAvVKPo87G2bD25TYeHDk V2yRtOYUazhQ9QwVl3DhkpC.PgF6uDn5UAPRRdUCqQg96._2G1xOKDesgPH6 sNGMJIVTqG_dfJLSZ7HRgQ7bxhr_OqozsLknJKUB74zINNQ9vW4G1Rs.dsOe Anor3Fh84hy2otXGLnWSfDOeMr5OFO5Ck69D69wDj5mVDEkb7seamz3yC_8l _PBslT1mes.r8oTnBamifii0ZwH4Vw5Rt39rLVDAcB2tpOWV7gzWAgjoQRXo LJlufYntUxSGYW3ydRcX06GxEtbRl4ko_svV1Uz2iLfVWZZM_IS_jU6QrOCE aoMBznjklHsBys_5VShfg6wGyYgwz6qkCVE6HJ_WhEPyJ3cgfa_vNAq06CuF v_qui8c.k_mqRLKVCXj2eghRFHWtdV0p6SEq2piePH0hHBydAlTFw1NKnM1h xaWPq Received: from [69.248.132.241] by web164903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:52:20 PDT QmVhdXRpZnVsISBMb29raW5nIGZvcndhcmQgdG8gdmlkZW8gb2YgaXQgc3RhcnRpbmcgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1lLi4uLiA7LSkKCkRhbiBECic3NkIsICc2NUIKQ2VudHJhbCBOSiBVU0EKCgoKCgpPbiBUdWVzZGF5LCBPY3RvYmVyIDgsIDIwMTMgNjoyNCBQTSwgUmljaGFyZCBMaW5kc2F5IDxyaWNoYXJkb2xpbmRzYXlAZ21haWwuY29tPiB3cm90ZToKIApIaSBGcmllbmRzLAoKUmVmZXJlbmNlZCBiZWxvdyBhcmUgdHdvIHBpY3R1cmVzIHRoYXQgZXhwbGFpbiBwZXJmZWN0bHkgV0hZIHdlCnJlc3RvcmUBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan DiBiase To: Richard Lindsay , "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Sure is pretty... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Beautiful! Looking forward to video of it starting for the first time.... ;-) Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 6:24 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: Hi Friends, Referenced below are two pictures that explain perfectly WHY we restore these cars. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131008_161147.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131008_161153.jpg -rick PS: Rui, has this sequence of pictures tempted you to retune the MGA's SUs? Hope so! _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 10:31:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FB542A96 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:31:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF5C40433; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h16so483014oag.24 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:mime-version :content-type; bh=BH8R3jwyxPY8ncbJP8HLl7ELuxvWTfizcWwSSjTLKJQ=; b=H1RTdRhD31jYJT6Vjsuh6J5KLRRzAvcDq+JqAvIxghQl+30x9jHyW0oKqauCFba+mz pSvxjd+SB30jbTRevBdX7xVW30e0hGlGF2O37ta2LvjHtF0MPlbT22SmRNrFJXsQoXVJ hFgTQjIa9tYrV5cgKz2Xw/p/YmedInuQ0d1/V29IW3QXhSdUktU+e006ie1iKKWgtNzw o1rShfQJ6DgusBNhn/uBKAD4tmYg0DtOHeVqGxL3Hlv80R62hZWX0jol12Zt0nN0PfyN luC9JGPqoHQS/q35AjBI1EcYRyQXWVZTYJtfgaUVvy5NOevqjRWzgsNO4yZWwCQQnyo6 OfTQ== v6mr6378952obn.13.1381336274536; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.72] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm80176154oeu.6.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 12:27:29 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Today I painted the tub, tank and tank straps, Autumn Red! Later, I'll paint the doors, rear valance and tool box lid red also. I'll have the wings, running boards and front valance painted gloss black, professionally. Pictures to follow once the garage air is safe to breathe. :-P -rick Sent from Samsung tablet _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 12:46:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D6B42B4D for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:46:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f173.google.com (mail-we0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DC442ACA; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:45:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u57so1334241wes.4 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 11:45:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1Zirsxc1tNrWYNTJ49AyYR/bGhqW/MPJ7ORWJ/08Oa4=; b=YwX+tUdwz1uTFe45E5h/vFu5kfhKZqzo8BMzJHXh9ahyYNOtR/t4YAM3Uaq8HPkj+f BAn0EjEuRr1mji1YdshxHfXndWE8FDSyCQ+EPm+JwJc91hcPKmTYnryVWl80cIsUM5C1 0aIS1/1WOvE7J5QpEvsFf8rnIodD9fEWkX2CB2o2lnGC0MxTUzM1+iXpcKoWBvtP5iPl e5nl9be5vONVHHyazx5Fiv7rujcuy79H46JBobjMSFkActxCYKaU8bDQzhN7OR1OYwKj LmEe26Xi6xnBw2XfLOWZ1ZaHt/EGgKqYmZRMgWEXoeTlfaKD9Al9GYp8S1PxSbsxQik0 DhlQ== kl6mr8342294wjc.9.1381344332220; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 11:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.99.98 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 13:45:32 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Some paint pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Referenced here are links to pictures of the red paint on now my TD. In the pictures, the paint is still wet. There are a few runs which will need addressing, but once the paint cures, I can set the tub on the frame! Woohoo! http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131009_120020e.jpg The picture is in partial sun so color balance is wrong. In the next pictures you can see a better representative of the actual color. The bulbous thing seen on the inside of the lower door opening is urethane foam crack filler. After repairing the timber, I infilled the area with foam crack filler - which expanded, as expected, and will be trimmed away later. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131009_120033.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131009_120037.jpg -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 10 15:09:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4391540324 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:09:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59BD40066; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id cb5so223609wib.0 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JOBslvjjlZD2jrPQgQIPCCZhY05lnrxaX42Fmsb/7Ws=; b=er4tCaGwK1FgS529Q9UZ9wJO4L0Ip1niXNfp8CedeA1wKLxF3MPwMK29nyoimpmiAM bHj/ggzZylqlZcuofU2gncpkX5EI+UwMKdPUKFwD5aVgOQb3PNS8ojYSOYVa8cQipSVt b1xWaLqhITjIlTyi+2fmMAII2S669E8XF4tVEolsqvm4Tr9B2jmOvLD/fsbHUx+ChzWY B/FzhJMZER+Ng7hiVbSVmGivxSWlngnrF7AOuHB+WAg2jgaG+s0skSkAcyXTKCWQHdst H9zjo0DmxIBmWZXlgN6gq2Ua7GsNztCzr5AEpX12Mc5T1/hBZEcDk/I3AsHrLDzQCbUf Z6dA== by2mr3657063wjc.59.1381438077727; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.85.9 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:47:57 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Tinkering in the garage... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Today I just tinkered with the TD, rather than working to a plan. With the tub painted and back on the frame, I have relaxed a little. I had worried about that part of the work. First up is just fun - because I couldn't help it. I reinstalled the data plates, using new brass screws. The flash was not my friend in this shot, but you get the point. I like the patina. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131010_140359.jpg I next installed the plug wires. Notice that #1 is at the 7pm position. Others have #1 set to the 1pm position. I just think the plug wires route neater this way. Current distributor/rotor orientation is verified correct. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131010_143804.jpg I next mounted a few bits-n-bobs on the bulkhead. Here are a couple of pictures. I'll install the grommets, harness and grounding straps later. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131010_151701.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131010_152022.jpg Happy Thursday, -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 06:42:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CF542F0D for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 06:42:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A872403D0 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 06:40:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from station1 (adsl-98-94-197-166.ard.bellsouth.net[98.94.197.166]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20131011124020H0100nrms3e>; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:40:20 +0000 From: "Bill Snyder" To: Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:38:25 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7GfseSkMI8jwuUTo+XLKVYyvm7uA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] Ignition light glowing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello list. I have a 66 MGB that hasn't been driven much this year. Took it out yesterday on a very nice Smoky Mountain day. I have two issues that require advice. The needle valves on both carb float bowls stick occasionally. Is there a proper way to clean or lubricate them to prevent sticking? Secondly, when I took her out this AM the ignition light remains at a constant glow while the engine is running and the ammeter (non-stock) is registering discharge (Minus 15V). I took a quick look for loose wires or connections, but nothing obvious. Where do I start to track down the fault? Thanks in advance. Bill Snyder, Waynesville, NC _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 07:53:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5395342F0C for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 07:53:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CD340525 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 07:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id bpm71m00Q4LtS4201pm7R7; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:46:07 +0100 a=PtacW8en2noA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=2p4R_teFe-UA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=hVWxwYO_Sg34_I-Q-U4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=eJojReuL3h0A:10 a=GBYjNgTzydkA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Bill Snyder" , References: <000901cec67e$c83ddf00$58b99d00$@net> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:44:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Ignition light glowing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The float valves sticking open can be to worn valves or dirty fuel. As both do it the temptation is to blame the fuel (HS-equipped cars didn't have filters, HIF did), but then they both could be equally worn. Remove the float chamber lids and see if there is any dirt in the bottom of the chambers. If you replace the valves get the Viton-tipped ones and not Grose 'jets'. Given the warning light and the ammeter indication it's not charging. Remove the wires from the dynamo (I assume), connect the dynamo terminals together, and a voltmeter on its 20v scale between the connection and earth. Start the engine - don't rev it - and slooowly increase the revs. The meter should show 20v by the time it reaches 1000rpm. If it doesn't the dynamo is faulty. If it only shows 0.5 to 1v the field winding may be faulty. If it shows 4-5v the armature winding may be faulty, or it could be worn brushes. If the dynamo is OK it must be connections or the control box. Reconnect the wires to the control box and run the engine at about 1000rpm. Measure the voltage on the F terminals at the dynamo and the control box, which should be the same, and the D terminals at the control box and the dynamo, which should also be the same. Increasing the engine speed should close the cut-out relay (the one that is normally open) if it hasn't already. Check the voltage is the same on both sides of the contact (which should be much the same as on the D terminal), if not clean the contact carefully with fine wet and dry. If it hasn't operated check there is an earth on the E terminal of the control box. For starters. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Snyder" To: Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 1:38 PM Subject: [Mgs] Ignition light glowing > Hello list. I have a 66 MGB that hasn't been driven much this year. Took > it > out yesterday on a very nice Smoky Mountain day. I have two issues that > require advice. The needle valves on both carb float bowls stick > occasionally. Is there a proper way to clean or lubricate them to prevent > sticking? > > > > Secondly, when I took her out this AM the ignition light remains at a > constant glow while the engine is running and the ammeter (non-stock) is > registering discharge (Minus 15V). I took a quick look for loose wires or > connections, but nothing obvious. Where do I start to track down the > fault? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Bill Snyder, Waynesville, NC > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73@virginmedia.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 08:08:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38E742F1C for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:08:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD17F40525 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:06:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from station1 (adsl-98-94-197-166.ard.bellsouth.net[98.94.197.166]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20131011140634H0400api74e>; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:06:35 +0000 From: "Bill Snyder" To: Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:04:40 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7GitQw3oqv8GJqQJScFI4IDKnGrQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] Ignition light glowing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net To clarify, my MGB has a dynamo (rebuilt several years ago) and has been converted to negative ground and fitted with Petronix ignition. The ignition light on my car is fairly dim, even with the ignition on and engine not started. It does not get bright or dimmer when the engine RPMs are increased. Bill Snyder, Waynesville, NC _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 08:26:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3703142F14 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:26:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834F04054B for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:24:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id bqQR1m0034LtS4201qQRUb; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:24:25 +0100 a=PtacW8en2noA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=2p4R_teFe-UA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=YGm8dwRtrHEobIq1lq8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=edxcwHwa5YwA:10 a=BMCmpjfghjsA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Bill Snyder" , References: <001701cec68a$d4d505c0$7e7f1140$@net> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:24:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Ignition light glowing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Same response as before then, except to the say the Pertronix will have no bearing on the problem. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > To clarify, my MGB has a dynamo (rebuilt several years ago) and has been > converted to negative ground and fitted with Petronix ignition. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 15:33:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD3742F0D for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:33:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0A940413 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:32:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A64DB70036203 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dmc002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dmc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.213.5]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7F0F7E00008E for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:32:20 -0400 (EDT) To: mgs@autox.team.net From: daybell7@aol.com Received: from 98.70.44.95 by webmail-m209.sysops.aol.com (64.12.75.234) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:32:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:32:20 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381527140; bh=NxmWlPZlA9WsttTzixxCYo7psTf79MtnUaJTL/tlvTQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XZTAqfEQv6KkPmNKnjd0nJlHzbFs4l21F88kUfdmVTFccuOm/dsbU/McQo3Xf6j/B N5UzAnywjlOGoL50SYe+NE/zizQH96rCo7lINIgvcSpdl6anz48Iy85H0DFehzOpum OdRzoE4x+eht8q8kndVIu7lHwwTDGI0Y9M/ikB2U= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b52586e6444a7 Subject: [Mgs] Leaky or stuck float needle valves Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm an MGB person and read this list regularly. I just solved a leaky float needle valve on a Triumph motorcycle that's plagued me for a couple years: I polished the valve seats with polishing compound on a q-tip in a variable speed drill. New needle valves and new gas too. Steve Hughes Gainesville, FL 73 TR6 72 B 68 GT 59 Minor Message: 2 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:38:25 -0400 From: "Bill Snyder" wrote Hello list. I have a 66 MGB that hasn't been driven much this year. Took it out yesterday on a very nice Smoky Mountain day. I have two issues that require advice. The needle valves on both carb float bowls stick occasionally. Is there a proper way to clean or lubricate them to prevent sticking? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 12 14:53:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C31C42F74 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:53:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D9342A51 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:53:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2013 20:53:03 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.53] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2013 20:53:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2013 20:53:03 -0000 DUZjGmaS2o.9yHFmbLNdsjkrgcUOqGGHERPidaJK1_rCEfD7v86m.5Jc3yEO xzo6sNq_cbwC2yzYbBRMryZcKIcOmm6F73Wj.7PJ2Sm2xu0jyH5YNmHCqfAx QOX_2xkSZA0cihz3Kvpi_62V7Ck8v1CO3hU4P_JY1qxvaWABIXuRikC5rhUM O9aH2wMdKY0QZi2pSeiiylexK0M6YsoZgHLGEUVjzJjCsn4IEvzm8_f.KEkJ JcXfPK9hESSWi634h0jTOwmfOyDBujct682o0HK3Rm5Svu0gl0gaeGs0ZIDp rESTORi8560U6p7Fgu_ioYvQLdgC5l0xhBTV2rLl8nVpOnx23YfvYU7P2qzq GpVZ_pHHmdhqRYYCQeyIzIw0LChU.X8_gwFcwcQCjkPV.mCE73nFgEQsxhNE 56zUMHxaOMnoVNBtUBL.sK8Uc1DvF3PKuihPXXyog9SkLai6apaVcB1RZUYK 6TXAW4phDaLK75K5CFSK2v4u9sr9oQJRMJlWcaA-- smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Oct 2013 13:53:03 -0700 PDT From: Duvall Video Productions Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:53:02 -0500 References: To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 77, Issue 12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, Make sure your float arm isn't bent so that it can drop low enough for the needle to jam. If your in an area using ethanol, you might try a small amount of Marvel Mystery oil in your gas. You also could consider grose jets which are easy to install but I found those can stick with ethanol as well but MMO occasionally takes care of it. Mike On Oct 12, 2013, at 1:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:38:25 -0400 > From: "Bill Snyder" wrote > > > Hello list. I have a 66 MGB that hasn't been driven much this year. Took it > out yesterday on a very nice Smoky Mountain day. I have two issues that > require advice. The needle valves on both carb float bowls stick > occasionally. Is there a proper way to clean or lubricate them to prevent > sticking? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 12 18:25:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC6442F86 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 18:25:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C6342A51 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 18:25:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id ks9so3931082vcb.30 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:24:43 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8eJ5LYq7DsUt1JSd8wb0ZInYFWZyLONazDaE9UUJDWA=; b=0u9CexUrUpiyqWTdPmnLlaNwvD9srBH21QsjSD3BeKHBgKayqLbIjLje//DrurRim2 Y7d0hE+gIE+l7HGXdZt5LVtj5Nb04xM2R+9fj7WH3+0HHprqC9RZFm7lBeGLHtvwCiCF jBTZEw6HxexCe6WFBfQo1u38++yHsDq9tlc3AqMupBtqDl5cQdSgTHrJWIrg0Ajn491M oOZJnUdhotys2b/kSSr8EDpPggWcZ827h1HVXj6ZQe3pPsdwh+Zwp+uRXecHpbrNPzh3 x+UaUIuil4YYh/VUnlFFpWlDrbQEF5qgqtlANBIBWG5OKrBilz2u+kkIi19maCaKlQ7I yz1w== Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.228.201 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:24:43 -0700 From: Simon Matthews To: MGS Subject: [Mgs] Not an MG story, but interesting tale of what some people did with 4 Austin Americas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net http://jalopnik.com/the-least-prepared-team-in-the-history-of-the-24-hours-1440524477 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 12 21:14:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3753E42F59 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 21:14:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-1869.hostmonster.com (outbound-ss-1869.hostmonster.com [66.147.252.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AE2A42901 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 21:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 29372 invoked by uid 0); 12 Oct 2013 22:33:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 12 Oct 2013 22:33:15 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=560u6rwcscPQUt9n4RmTOhcNm1tP3BDpn/VwBO+ld7w=; b=WJ2Wt36JrD1DYu5sSIlKV5WBxVZRxiL7hlgQbMZCZdlhdpnq5mDSvQ3zJ4lxwMFxauF9AxLmDFBhomNAx9CRwzdaicrG5xNAqyl1IK9bFEFIGRuatlJCHUj/olcoFncY; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=21696 helo=[192.168.0.119]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VV7kJ-0008VX-19 for mgs@autox.team.net; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:33:15 -0600 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:32:42 -0500 From: Just Brits Shop User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <4800EDD2-92B9-4957-B1A2-29E134979E86@duvallvideo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 77, Issue 12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net << On 10/12/2013 3:53 PM, Duvall Video Productions wrote: .....You also could consider grose jets which.....>> Those thing are gross, Mike ! ! ! Use Vitron tip units, Steve. http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=28995#34 for HS-4s [ 3 diff listings]. HIFs are different ! ! I normally would have a pair or two [2] in-stock, but.......... . Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 13 03:56:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B1D42F6C for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 03:56:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1C340415 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 03:55:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-8-imp with bizsmtp id cZvU1m00J4LtS4201ZvUkg; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 10:55:28 +0100 a=SBdcA7Ruz7EA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=B1fPGuNI3MgA:10 a=yhzT3RzbAAAA:8 a=seLL0xUEQnNnmhKcb8EA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=QFjMJxfDhogA:10 a=pgeVM2tz_kcA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: , "MGS" References: Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 10:26:58 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Not an MG story, but interesting tale of what some people did with 4 Austin Americas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I loved the one in the car park. As well as the blue car, the white car and others are straddling two spaces, and the black estate didn't cover itself in glory either. Gotta be wimmin at the supermarket ... ----- Original Message ----- > http://jalopnik.com/the-least-prepared-team-in-the-history-of-the-24-hours-1440524477 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 13 10:00:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710A742F66 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 10:00:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F722403ED for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:59:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cfxs1m0061ei1Bg51fyeMf; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 15:58:38 +0000 Received: from mail-la0-x235.google.com ([IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::235]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cfyd1m00C1qSm6H3kfyePb; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 15:58:38 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id el20so4827417lab.26 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=q2kNXbxNo2f4lKHw4uoeBcvImu1UvhhuzY0YXRt75f0=; b=g7M1BHGNDRG/aP0lDLgtBb+89vJK1w5yDWxjs+l8HHF/UopWftagY3tSpjdJzhlcqv xLO/nNDhN1zIaq3DruEm34pqYUqELQCCmx7M1/o1X0R5NI/27lmrEc0hbMfsBZfItfyc ywKNlhvzGiiqLo+lzhbnqYTs2v2No90diIq7kD/o2dUv1TRIrV30h1anx/6zEajtbUS2 e3SznIiWIzbi0WIanxipISG5nTXhXuoQI/C+Zste6bcYQGzjmRtPdR0fEX5iM+cRz5Mf ZwJDRUxy/5PaNkTuGxOQszmXzfY1mbizHwbYNBSRgH97mUpntFVumVtR20BsLWN7ALFY tTJQ== l6mr26587789lbo.5.1381679917289; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.14.69 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.14.69 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:58:37 -0600 From: Andrew Lundgren To: mgs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1381679918; bh=q2kNXbxNo2f4lKHw4uoeBcvImu1UvhhuzY0YXRt75f0=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Content-Type; b=JvSgwbUMNP1QCvpDBEEGex2ucsQB3sIJy43gkq0T1MVJfIa2kaQqAkpb+vi87Y0fM TLLEyQ+FeZFWgC1+Rm/CrxE8Bw3hxCtqHyfTqF2Cr6PwGZoXIsj0H/2zO2xOKBs0aq HQdIDIgfIi+ezH7lQJUVRG/gXIDoySXl9NxcFAhy9np3K7ET6evWUXA2dKmvF38XD3 Y09ndXkcXrTtsJnK53J/xD7nmdfaWwRQjNQaeZk8thmBS4KhX6x7isg23aDjAKqe2s u3b+VqA0RrXhcJnmgPO9pPkczOkTs5bLW6OqLO5nZTTY3BabKBxIcjrTfsXR81aQEN UjgF0x124X1bQ== Subject: [Mgs] Dropped off my 78 B yesterday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I dropped my 78B off to get the readend repaired from being hit over the summer and to do a chrome bumper conversion. I should be able to pick it up in about a month! Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 16:54:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B3B42F7E for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB2F40441 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:52:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-4.home ([unknown] [173.57.100.44]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MUO00MGJKVKIS50@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:52:32 -0500 (CDT) From: John Marcell Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:52:32 -0500 To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Need some help. Ran across a rough RR track & fuel pump stopped picking up fuel. first thought it was the pump but same problem with another one. Took the hex head bolt off the top thinking it must have dropped the pick up tube. nothing in manual about the tank. There was nothing attached to the nut but I could see inside the top of the tank just below the hex nut a matting that had a hole in it. Ran a wire down to the bottom of tank. Is this the connection that mates up to the hex nut. There was no gasket between the two and that looks like it would suck air & not allow gas to feed up to te pump. Am I missing something? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 01:43:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F35E4296E for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 01:43:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425424041C for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 01:42:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id dKhx1m00Q4LtS4201Khxh3; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 08:41:57 +0100 a=qe6GZUU2T3MA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=Fkmt49TN8tAA:10 a=1m-qxUcDAAAA:8 a=Sb3AR0GSMAfOk3russ4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "John Marcell" , References: <61D776FC-2A2F-4E85-9B89-811938D16D84@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 08:34:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Firstly I know nowt about Magnettes But by the 'hex head bolt' do you mean the banjo union as here? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fLg6x6Q8Qk0/UdR7VQ9MbYI/AAAAAAAADIs/ecq6w4bKdGk/s640/2013-07-02+Magnette+gas+tank+refurbish+017+(640x480).jpg I'd have said that must be sealed to the bolt and the tank as even if got as far as sucking fuel up from the bottom of the tank it would leak out of the union joints, so yes there should be gaskets (or maybe O-rings, later SU pumps have these). What do you mean by running a wire down? There has to be a tube going down from the union to the bottom of the tank or it won't pick up any fuel. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > There was nothing attached to the nut but I could see inside the top of > the > tank just below the hex nut a matting that had a hole in it. Ran a wire > down > to the bottom of tank... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 05:06:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3E542F78 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 05:06:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F025E40432 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 05:06:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.172] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2013 11:05:54 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.250] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2013 11:05:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2013 11:05:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 48028 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Oct 2013 11:05:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381835154; bh=p5io1TXAR/0ungCIzTXyD+twOPa6OYCF0E1j/PA6Ya8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ixco/G/W4DJfaGZXrBlh83SWXLEtwrDWr3C1gMsbSTBmezaAxTAPdYkdCHbFBGXKmJml42rDGoqm92s+sA33lRkBZHZ8BiVPJ6qjJOf2oiOrIQom/oMmOxKiYoUBvCqavDA3D6vK0CLO3XFN/gFGG4Jneyo3uMM1fm2i+OErCP8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K2f4apKyASDh5qEAh8spi6vn4NpDjucvErnnhiWK2nMPviZbO1lo4mJabZtK1FGo0qwDQ7NUf5odqdwy6ns4FlZK2AyJmDALhm6/aiT/+F29S+tpml/D6YuyK06ta3e0oymynQPf/ZXVXhEZLIHsDH7e+CcPR7EujimbIPZr4iE=; 0Nf3mOldIJTns06lauwM7V_JR0KDIsdCTrp_lTwGMIXs8ecd6QB2thnyiwSk jJa4dtJvJXi5GUarJm8hZXmxDe6zH16zzxyc4zAAkCRbV2UhZSEKkibL1LBw y_hu_GmrDxbLTUHgfZvvLhYLzfNGEotqsL_0S3poyexP6IeBXF1K_MPIgH_7 .C7xEtB.yWMu.4SicBHBjie9X2u0BCBx_rMj0wIeacEJUtkLXWnMvMmMsBma lhERv4Pg8Gpv5iZx31zKEtLsGV.yPZ6h.3gEkncjXr9VyAys.SfyNrXAYuzx TVwFg1gXBfEcmcATE1WOIIQ3oTIXR_M09HSW_DjZRUEITFRmuAFLXKOW_aI0 bS8CJycRqYbitPr6SyT1OgVISY5Y_pJOUrsWPohnYReszWstNfD.oDPesVHL sBT1VhGWiLGeZ.CRLG8xHjQMDiIghwHRVG940nXFTVMNZlhJnyh45j29b.S1 jKpj6fS2HTF7VwyafLPUJAwFzbmFC34RPeCTqcNHZgyLXtYRdLCMyJeXGwgj Zm2xhbWPsBOA4VQmD1aHKs0yw.Vth3820dw-- Received: from [69.248.132.241] by web164903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 04:05:54 PDT SG9wZWZ1bGx5IHlvdSBlbmRlZCB1cCBnZXR0aW5nIGEgZ29vZCBzZXR0bGVtZW50IGZyb20gdGhlIGluc3VyYW5jZSBjb21wYW55Li4uLi4gRG8geW91IGhhdmUgY2xhc3NpYyBjYXIgb3IKcmVndWxhciBpbnN1cmFuY2Ugb24gaXQ_CgpEYW4gRAonNzZCLCAnNjVCCkNlbnRyYWwgTkogVVNBCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IEFuZHJldyBMdW5kZ3JlbiA8bHVuZGdyZW5AYnl1Lm5ldD4KVG86IG1nc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogU3VuZGF5LCBPY3RvYmVyIDEBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 04:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan DiBiase To: Andrew Lundgren , "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Dropped off my 78 B yesterday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hopefully you ended up getting a good settlement from the insurance company..... Do you have classic car or regular insurance on it? Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Andrew Lundgren To: mgs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: [Mgs] Dropped off my 78 B yesterday I dropped my 78B off to get the readend repaired from being hit over the summer and to do a chrome bumper conversion. I should be able to pick it up in about a month! Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 07:55:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD45640454 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 07:55:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-2041.bluehost.com (outbound-ss-2041.bluehost.com [70.40.205.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 26966403EF for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 07:55:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25038 invoked by uid 0); 15 Oct 2013 13:54:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy14.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2013 13:54:30 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=fXMXnm+kdOdp8AhBxkluLIAmlVmaBKo8dNYAeXUuRqw=; b=bafM9R82mLYUadHfDLjP54uwG+hhAHX9Nmnk71S+k+ppXY+C7z2fuZpRJ6tcYhzmBvn97g7dbp2UwAOeCSi1LjpRvrYvod1AeSk0Qr4AUr8UwevwmNZLAcj1o+sxJbVJ; Received: from c-24-15-13-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([24.15.13.164]:30196 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VW54u-0002Hm-S7 for mgs@autox.team.net; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 07:54:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 08:54:22 -0500 From: Just Brits Shop User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <61D776FC-2A2F-4E85-9B89-811938D16D84@verizon.net> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net << On 10/14/2013 5:52 PM, John Marcell wrote: > Am I missing something?>> John, I think we are all 'missing' something: language/terminology -:) -:) ! ! Would/could you take a couple pictures ? ? Identify each [by *.jpg #] with your description ? ? You may send to me (just hit "Reply All:" & delete List Addy ] and I'll put up immediately for all ! ! This is most likely the best way for all of us to be "on same page" ! ! ! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 10:17:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D93440522 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:17:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27153403DA for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:17:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Steve-PC.optonline.net (ool-457e6b78.dyn.optonline.net [69.126.107.120]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MUP00IOYX81JY00@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:14:25 -0400 From: Steven Trovato To: John Marcell , "mgs@autox.team.net List" References: <61D776FC-2A2F-4E85-9B89-811938D16D84@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net John, I've attached a picture from my parts manual. It looks like it's the standard banjo with washers above and below, like at the carburetors. The pickup tube itself is not shown. I imagine it is a permanent internal part of the tank. First thing I would do is make sure I have the banjo fitting correctly arranged with washers above and below. Then I would rig something to be able to blow some air down the line, into the tank. No major pressure. Just mouth pressure should do it. Open the tank filler and listen for bubbles. If you hear bubbles, I would think everything is fine in the tank. You can also try suction on the line, but I wouldn't do that by mouth. If it fails these tests, then you have a problem inside the tank that I really don't know how to address, other than by replacing the tank. I'm thinking that problems with the pickup inside the tank are unlikely. I haven't looked inside a Magnette tank, but I have cut open an MGA tank. Tank was perforated with rust, but the pickup looked good as new. Of course, the other thing that would cause this symptom is being out of fuel. You did check that, right? -Steve Trovato strovato@optonline.net At 06:52 PM 10/14/2013, John Marcell wrote: >Need some help. > >Ran across a rough RR track & fuel pump stopped picking up fuel. first >thought it was the pump but same problem with another one. Took the hex head >bolt off the top thinking it must have dropped the pick up tube. nothing in >manual about the tank. > >There was nothing attached to the nut but I could see inside the top of the >tank just below the hex nut a matting that had a hole in it. Ran a wire down >to the bottom of tank. Is this the connection that mates up to the hex nut. >There was no gasket between the two and that looks like it would suck air & >not allow gas to feed up to te pump. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of magnette fuel tank.jpg] _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 10:20:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E94B40513 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CCB403D4 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:20:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Steve-PC.optonline.net (ool-457e6b78.dyn.optonline.net [69.126.107.120]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MUP00KTDXD4CQX0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:17:54 -0400 From: Steven Trovato To: John Marcell , "mgs@autox.team.net List" References: <61D776FC-2A2F-4E85-9B89-811938D16D84@verizon.net> <0MUP00IP0X82JY00@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, well, the list doesn't seem to want to let me attach the picture. I've sent it directly to your email as well. -Steve At 12:14 PM 10/15/2013, Steven Trovato wrote: >John, > >I've attached a picture from my parts manual. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 10:53:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48CD42FA3 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:53:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2811740444 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:51:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([unknown] [173.57.100.44]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MUP001NHYU4PG50@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:51:41 -0500 (CDT) References: <61D776FC-2A2F-4E85-9B89-811938D16D84@verizon.net> <0MUP00IP0X82JY00@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> From: "mg1948@verizon.net" Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:51:42 -0500 To: Steven Trovato Cc: "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I put a hose into top of take where the banjo bolt mates up & got a mouth full of fuel so there if fuel in tank. I'm going to add more just in case there was not enough when I stopped. Fuel gauge showed 3/4 full & has always been correct. Turned key on today & it shows empty. That bump sure made things go haywire. Will have to wait till tomorrow & let everyone know results. Was headed to a 3 day MG meet where we got 7 inches of rain. Maybe the car knew she didn't want to go! Thanks Phil Sent from my iPad > On Oct 15, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Steven Trovato wrote: > > John, > > I've attached a picture from my parts manual. It looks like it's the standard banjo with washers above and below, like at the carburetors. The pickup tube itself is not shown. I imagine it is a permanent internal part of the tank. First thing I would do is make sure I have the banjo fitting correctly arranged with washers above and below. Then I would rig something to be able to blow some air down the line, into the tank. No major pressure. Just mouth pressure should do it. Open the tank filler and listen for bubbles. If you hear bubbles, I would think everything is fine in the tank. You can also try suction on the line, but I wouldn't do that by mouth. If it fails these tests, then you have a problem inside the tank that I really don't know how to address, other than by replacing the tank. I'm thinking that problems with the pickup inside the tank are unlikely. I haven't looked inside a Magnette tank, but I have cut open an MGA tank. Tank was perforated with rust, but the pickup looked good as new. > > Of course, the other thing that would cause this symptom is being out of fuel. You did check that, right? > > -Steve Trovato > strovato@optonline.net > > At 06:52 PM 10/14/2013, John Marcell wrote: >> Need some help. >> >> Ran across a rough RR track & fuel pump stopped picking up fuel. first >> thought it was the pump but same problem with another one. Took the hex head >> bolt off the top thinking it must have dropped the pick up tube. nothing in >> manual about the tank. >> >> There was nothing attached to the nut but I could see inside the top of the >> tank just below the hex nut a matting that had a hole in it. Ran a wire down >> to the bottom of tank. Is this the connection that mates up to the hex nut. >> There was no gasket between the two and that looks like it would suck air & >> not allow gas to feed up to te pump. > _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 10:59:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9090342F78 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:59:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4C340425 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Steve-PC.optonline.net (ool-457e6b78.dyn.optonline.net [69.126.107.120]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MUP00ABEZ7DGRV0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:57:35 -0400 From: Steven Trovato To: "mg1948@verizon.net" References: <61D776FC-2A2F-4E85-9B89-811938D16D84@verizon.net> <0MUP00IP0X82JY00@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <6907ADC8-455B-4371-AE80-DDF4EDFDCD7C@verizon.net> Cc: "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Yuck. That was what I was saying NOT to do. Gasoline tastes terrible and it's not very good for you. I'll look for your progress report tomorrow. -Steve At 12:51 PM 10/15/2013, mg1948@verizon.net wrote: >I put a hose into top of take where the banjo bolt mates up & got a >mouth full of fuel so there if fuel in tank. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 13:25:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A226642823 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:25:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C836C40439 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:24:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FEDA1A2E for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:24:17 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:24:17 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <61D776FC-2A2F-4E85-9B89-811938D16D84@verizon.net> <525D490E.4080703@justbrits.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net > Would/could you take a couple pictures ? ? Identify each [by *.jpg #] with your description? > You may send to me (just hit "Reply All:" & delete List Addy There is also the MG forum at http://www.team.net/forums for pictures. mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 16 11:12:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4DC40514 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:12:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc4-s20.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc4-s20.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.2.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F47B40439 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:07:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB117-W47 ([157.55.2.71]) by dub0-omc4-s20.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Oct 2013 09:39:40 -0700 From: Windows Live Team To: "mgs@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:39:40 +0000 FILETIME=[4F19C9E0:01CECA8E] Subject: [Mgs] disc brakes on td Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I have a friend who wants to put disc brakes on his TD. Has anyone done this? Would MGA parts bolt to the uprights or could complete MGB king pin assemblies be used? Thanks in advance for the help. Lorne _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 16 16:34:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E7B42F7E for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:34:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD364054C for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:34:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-4.home ([unknown] [173.57.100.44]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MUS004RH9C20C00@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:33:39 -0500 (CDT) From: John Marcell Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:33:38 -0500 References: <61D776FC-2A2F-4E85-9B89-811938D16D84@verizon.net> To: PaulHunt73 Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Evidently the 1/2 gal i gave it wasn't enough. added 3 gal & it picked up fine. Before I hit The RR Tracks gauge read 3/4 full, after it it still showed 3/4. After taking everything loose & sucking up some gas it showed Empty! Need to check if there there Lucas somewhere in this circuit!! Thanks everyone for help. Phil On Oct 15, 2013, at 2:34 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote: > Firstly I know nowt about Magnettes > > But by the 'hex head bolt' do you mean the banjo union as here? > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fLg6x6Q8Qk0/UdR7VQ9MbYI/AAAAAAAADIs/ecq6w4bKdGk/s64 0/2013-07-02+Magnette+gas+tank+refurbish+017+(640x480).jpg > > I'd have said that must be sealed to the bolt and the tank as even if got as far as sucking fuel up from the bottom of the tank it would leak out of the union joints, so yes there should be gaskets (or maybe O-rings, later SU pumps have these). > > What do you mean by running a wire down? There has to be a tube going down from the union to the bottom of the tank or it won't pick up any fuel. > > PaulH. > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> There was nothing attached to the nut but I could see inside the top of the >> tank just below the hex nut a matting that had a hole in it. Ran a wire down >> to the bottom of tank... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 04:16:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA01E42F27 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 04:16:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5842E42EEF for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 04:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-8-imp with bizsmtp id eAFz1m00K4LtS4201AFzcT; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:15:59 +0100 a=qe6GZUU2T3MA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=Fkmt49TN8tAA:10 a=v1pt3davkhlYwMVXQ-oA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=OQDsSS5ZpwIA:10 a=a0AaQEX9PJUA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "John Marcell" References: <61D776FC-2A2F-4E85-9B89-811938D16D84@verizon.net> <162854C9-0335-4028-82F7-59942400F6EB@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 10:56:52 +0100 Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] ZB Magnette Gas Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tanks usually have a significant amount left that the pickup cannot ... pick up. Sounds like the sender could be sticking. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- Evidently the 1/2 gal i gave it wasn't enough. added 3 gal & it picked up fine. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 20:34:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A11543500 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:34:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8D1431D7 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:29:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by m1plsmtpa01-05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id gSV21m00i2QmmGk01SV3AE; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:29:03 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 21:29:07 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] wheels on a 64 mgb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net does anyone know anything about these wheels? they came on a car I just acquired. notice the shelby bhubcap.b its on two of them. is that with the wheels or just something that also got put on? thanks! http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 10:48:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F291642FB9 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:48:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (c.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F2F42FA3 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:40:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9NGe2lf026558 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:40:02 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.103] (173-228-28-108.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.108]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r9NGe0mW004039 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:40:01 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:38:31 -0700 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] wheels on a 64 mgb Thread-Index: Ac7QDk7F627tj5vJ/UaJeatroJ8eig== Subject: Re: [Mgs] wheels on a 64 mgb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net They kind of resemble the American Racing Wheels "Vector" (as seen in "Dukes of Hazzard"), but AFAIK that is only available in 5-bolt patterns. I am sure Shelby Cobras never had 4-lug wheels, but they might have come off a Dodge Omni GLHS by Shelby. Or perhaps a Ford Mustang Cobra of the 80s. on 10/22/13 7:29 PM, Dave at dave@ranteer.com wrote: > does anyone know anything about these wheels? they came on a car I just > acquired. > > notice the shelby bhubcap.b its on two of them. is that with the > wheels > or just something that also got put on? > > thanks! > > http://www.ranteer.com/misc1/ > _______________________________________________ -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 16:02:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0B343569 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9691E42F65 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:45:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id glk31m00D2QmmGk01lk6ku; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:44:07 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:44:07 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] 1964 mgb metal fan yellow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net does anyone have a duplicolor or other rattle can equivalent? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 17:00:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1FE434D5 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:00:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nlpi162.prodigy.net (nlpi162.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A322242F52 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from barney-gaylord.mgaguru.com (adsl-75-57-177-31.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net [75.57.177.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by nlpi162.prodigy.net (8.14.4 smptauth/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9NMj4dS010674; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:45:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:42:29 -0500 To: "Dave" , From: Barney Gaylord References: <187DC78BBB104563B769BCE6A4E6F48F@Datsun> Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1964 mgb metal fan yellow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net See here: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/paint/pt105b.htm At 04:44 PM 10/23/2013 -0500, Dave wrote: >does anyone have a duplicolor or other rattle can equivalent? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 15:56:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A810A43773 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:56:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm31-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915E64350A for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:35:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.174] by nm31.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2013 21:34:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.249] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2013 21:34:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2013 21:34:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 99319 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2013 21:34:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382650477; bh=11vKuhWyHKzhbzw6+MRpKHe21cXbIvH27w4tewirb6E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gpwuPIF3pMZBxGk8ojW7ZamxFDUl8MaVuzVdeIV0y51oY8nAlfQngIEWEqfTakBNVIC2EzJaVsmCXNruJZXMhvS+rpN6AFf/oYwq73zdAXlXyeaw3Exx+gD6TTlMxggyyY/M4OoHEkaHCFaPoC/WjkYAB02qSfiYkj5lM2prq2k= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YRYURJqYBALqBNOdDuQNuEUHfMLfNeYjpyiUuIXvTLgmcs/E61PE9n5TK3CGjsn1tSCIzPFBpCEzuXsoexcm7M+mrZ6AjBCucb9qtVbEntnNpiSSfHGy1h10P7CjjP7Sgz8F6fbu3kcpOAcGwnx6LAV/CYFeW937+cahE4Ka4Yw=; hmw0g9zOuhyuJQozjpiuiv3PiA86bu98xdUzR4YuHYYXExNVnEQVScD3RCh5 9.4I7SrhY.WUXfxrr_jyNKTI3X3RryrPUgOPz5byW8GJ_3CcXXcJ1vuSpn5R ONooqZhvkGGbrkmGWppi1bE_dcT5yDt453E_WhjtfvZTNjH5b9gFqnhyrw49 6PEW7sGKIVpmi5vQZVk5r5CRkUsraXTYZxCwJWdh9bKv6KTi.ZLgiw1AWGHB SScsnU5fC_5z.HFhMzTy1yPWRmK7y.ktpgQn5ITjwcqsEGNzYD5Hxn5e9nGG DdZQ1wI5s.33wTU0dHqp9Gk3EYUFNL93.ctQ3pBTGGXNoKmTzXaOBv5vgz0D 0poCk8XkvqMnRKz2n51lDq8lU08nx024NRh9eQCVB0jXnfrAoYinFKGIR1HE St3qtP66Rq344.cJT_QEzwsnz15Be9bB1fsUMTmX6xqrjzxb1IctNwmFhvZS Aa.Uk2Pb4xMtQ64nRIPQJdZTr_Oh5nqxz1r4kYGbCz9FPsw6ooS4jFRT7.st M7IhJa0i1MjR27rioE79KLGv7I.xqllpkl7jIP4pL6Ffkz9jWgMiX.C1zdMh dodI47QG382GKd7lkub0pdVJ.gne45gu6SJvPKXyf4GUSILCofWCRvuU82gH ZvWF3yHqq Received: from [69.248.132.241] by web164901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:34:37 PDT SSBob3BlIHlvdSdyZSBnb2luZyB0byBsZWF2ZSB0aGUgZXllYnJvd3Mgb24gdGhlIFZvbHZvLi4uIQoKRGFuIEQKJzc2IEIsICc2NSBCCkNlbnRyYWwgTkogVVNBCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogUmljaGFyZCBMaW5kc2F5IDxyaWNoYXJkb2xpbmRzYXlAZ21haWwuY29tPgpUbzogIm1nLXRAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQiIDxtZy10QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PjsgIm1nc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCBMaXN0IiA8bWdzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiAKU2VudDogVGh1cnNkYXkBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan DiBiase To: Richard Lindsay , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mini-update on the TD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I hope you're going to leave the eyebrows on the Volvo...! Dan D '76 B, '65 B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Richard Lindsay To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" ; "mgs@autox.team.net List" Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:40 PM Subject: [Mgs] Mini-update on the TD While working on the M.G., I have also been preparing the Volvo 1800ES for paint. Here's a look at the car, just FYI. http://www.aubard.us/1800ES/20131015_142125e.jpg -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 16:36:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EF3436C8 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:36:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D884300E for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homiemail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (caiajhbdcagg.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.66]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D0C18076 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AA6674059 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:08:43 -0700 (PDT) :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:content-type; s=stclegal.com; bh=n4AQpi4PAGLjp+PHrvlOsDwBxyc=; b=sPDsIx/zW2qJ09w6+ILG8fIv8V+l Q5mUWvmBsJMLCeSgdrU0HmHVTWZeC16ID1cRuZi1+bqqH3Dc8z2G56iW+A9RdhgO yQXNtzaR7an0azSSCldnlfWrQ9VZaBsjbcUjtsBd4NgstQ/WLNp0Ln58QUH0rwil 5D2SSO2wZgAwp4g= Received: from [192.168.1.69] (66-128-101-178.static.stls.mo.charter.com [66.128.101.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: guinness@stclegal.com) by homiemail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 774A5674058 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:08:35 -0500 From: "Robert J. Guinness" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] MGA media sighting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net What I assume is a 1956 white MGA convertible with tan interior is the infamous/famous Dr. Master's daily driver in the HBO series "Masters of Sex" which is a dramatization of the careers of Masters & Johnson from Washington University in St. Louis, starting in the 1950's. Several scenes are shot in the car -- including while driving the car. There was a particularly good ground level close up of the MG octagon nose badge during its last appearance. -- e-mail signature Robert Guinness _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 16:37:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565644383B for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F5A43594 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:22:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA54AA1A64 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:21:19 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:21:19 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] Weber DGEV, Mallory dual point? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Was down at Bailey's today dealing a problem child, an orange rubber bumper B. Fun. But this is really just a note to see if anyone has any interest in a slighty used Weber DGEV downdraft carb and manifold for a B, or a used Mallory dual point distributor, again for a B. Basically some guy put a V6 into his car and gave Mike the drivetrain that was in it. Let me know if interested. mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 17:13:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C8B437BD for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:13:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com (mail-ve0-f181.google.com [209.85.128.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4CA42FB0; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:54:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id jz11so1819705veb.40 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:53:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ehF9m3nB85R8Tck4vEbgnHEhrJGblbGT9RJUy9iDp2w=; b=Dt9CFIfB8kDI3vyXa6G0ENOFgFibmC/Y9FXXKxFcLQv8mIubrkdzULGRzZpPsL00GV gWVb+TDNNEMZjLNaycfvpRgEp5EpVSQqBbMKu0ZxWEBOlxCxK0SI8bijjvq+Z8RvCLJ3 oiDShwg54x70WuGLF4wRcHGsqb0D8t+WWwgnxOYSNvmeUhsJ0kYe5uyMTxiCUfPLpsDU 3YtQE/mJimLDBqHaJ6al99KgqKwcthgWkp1ZFuv43nFYdsZhtEg8vFP6TpkvdQPzesEA gFmijRLzjsM/T0tK7DHtEJ8KMjbjvcl0A/c5k36cmOAmL/0vDvu+8nQp4y3d13sCvCbd H++Q== gq4mr216103vdc.48.1382655207013; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.152.174 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:26 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Fun Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net How do you spell fun? http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131024_165208.jpg -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 17:30:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9064380B for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:30:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEC142FB0 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:58:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2013 22:57:14 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.243] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2013 22:57:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2013 22:57:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382655434; bh=la3gi9mOFJRkyziGczCvEAyYvFGzJUAYc8OMnzIO7sg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=6SkX38vl2XET8mgCGCN5p8jby1Vm688FWl3rVn4zowOXp9No5JizjwwoXJuXSzsEXC3beCeXLpfmV/TdKUrP/7NOMMSmaYTQRf4cG9ONoLk4LSqTVSHOjsU/cAdsTe+4BoLse0TS0laCY3D4Y6AqpjGW8I6y81+K3aFd7jAU3xc= dQdkcCpvImyHzkPaUeeUe8wqFoMdNK.FskntYFYVFQ6Eo8VZkkvmRiimC3qn R8EYqy.M0_tbqh7Xl_RTYpwrpDm5U5gdryLqrtXEaLKSR97tILuROJCoRiNp htcQ6Y8XtsX1ov0gBrsrkGlh2Ml05cePEW7pi.a3NecY88tp9XTPSS1PI5bW ls18I7MQ303LXOv3SgqQIBxM4OOMUf4hq0wcbuWpwGe9Brxje_wXRlzo9ClI uS8fIkBwPTCg5wfYn9NGicRqTAWv4vNXxvv1Mmxa1IhS.QvrO.GDvd27D6oQ KqYqxs9mHdsT5M.MSclm.hvjipGbC2wIQODx0M_j0avcKjB7_7a2soSUGapE Yo5qnpRHLj7__Bp2Kts1YbuGLgowdRYOeTw5JTEi6es8I7zy_9TIqefYWtBk 8MA5xVtFLBuVyIW.04BPrMvUd2E3nBV.7bZLptLJhmEOvHgPu7e2yTKDtqX8 AaAN6vbJBHovJCuhHGj.v0pw68VtMndPJrpu5aXjDBL_lc_MTSqbpLjVA9ob yeAzAqd4Cql_zGxALfsVj9w-- smtp114.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2013 22:57:14 +0000 UTC From: "Ron King" To: "'Robert J. Guinness'" , "'MG List'" References: <52699A63.10003@stclegal.com> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:57:11 -0700 Thread-Index: AQDz18OVXbIElI44L4/lRnNN5OkiGZu6aDGA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGA media sighting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net . . . and Susan St. James drove a yellow MGTD in the TV series "McMillan and Wife". Know that because the series is available on NetFlix stream. . . . and in "Up in Smoke" there's a very brief shot of a blue MGB towards the beginning of the film. Ron King '71 MGB -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert J. Guinness Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:09 PM To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] MGA media sighting What I assume is a 1956 white MGA convertible with tan interior is the infamous/famous Dr. Master's daily driver in the HBO series "Masters of Sex" which is a dramatization of the careers of Masters & Johnson from Washington University in St. Louis, starting in the 1950's. Several scenes are shot in the car -- including while driving the car. There was a particularly good ground level close up of the MG octagon nose badge during its last appearance. -- e-mail signature Robert Guinness _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ronking@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 23:27:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D47043679 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 23:27:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp112.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp112.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABD743028 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 23:17:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6A50ED035E for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 01:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp11.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: don-AT-napanet.net) with ESMTPSA id 424AED0322 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 01:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 22:15:21 -0700 To: mgs@autox.team.net From: Don Subject: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This article was reprinted in the November Abingdon Rough Rider Review. Check it out in the NY Times where it originally appeared. Looks like young people are not so enamored with automobiles as we were. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/sunday-review/the-end-of-car-culture.html?_r=0 ---------------------------------------- Don Scott, Calistoga CA USA 1955 MGTF, 1962 MGA Mk 2, 1967 MGB, 1963-7 MGB (seeking), Misc. Japanese cars _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 02:16:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD12D43202 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 02:16:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AEE4285B for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 02:10:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id hL9H1m00V4LtS4201L9Hgt; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:09:17 +0100 a=4yIkrneqh2AA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=bRfdSvdhetUA:10 a=m8EPM7RWJwGVjNlB1XcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: References: Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:40:33 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Not by choice in the UK as the driving test gets harder and harder and the insurance costs for the under 20 age-group skyrocket. When young people do get a car they are just as in love with them as we were and are, tricking them out with performance and styling mods and going to meets just like the one pictured (updated anyway). In many parts of the country 'boy racers' are a big problem racing round car parks and on public streets. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > ... 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They are all into cars. My oldest just purchased a 2013 Subaru WRX, and sold his previous car, a 1999 Subaru RS2.5 coupe, to a guy doing a WRX swap into it. My younger son has a 1.8T VW Jetta, and every year his Christmas list has things like a "cold air intake", exhaust system, etc. He has done some small custom touches to the car as well. Any my 17-year old daughter really wanted a MINI Cooper for her first car, so we were able to find one, and she loves her 6-speed manual.... I've tried to teach them all the basics of car care, albeit with varying degrees of success ;-) But they all appreciate cars and are 'into them'. It is more difficult to have this as a hobby today, as you have to know computers to actually work on them. And the manufacturers all downplay the actual mechanical aspects of the cars, covering the engines with shrouds, removing dipsticks and not even providing a coolant temperature gauge - none of the 5 small cross-overs we test drove before buying our Mazda had one. Even the gas gauges are digital. But they all have Bluetooth, back-up cameras, fancy entertainment systems, etc. Dan D '76 B '65 B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Don To: mgs@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:15 AM Subject: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture This article was reprinted in the November Abingdon Rough Rider Review. Check it out in the NY Times where it originally appeared. Looks like young people are not so enamored with automobiles as we were. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/sunday-review/the-end-of-car-culture.html?_ r=0 ---------------------------------------- Don Scott, Calistoga CA USA 1955 MGTF, 1962 MGA Mk 2, 1967 MGB, 1963-7 MGB (seeking), Misc. 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Kinda looks like an Austin-Healey, but looks like it might have a V8 with twin carbs, and the shifter is certainly not stock spec. Almost looks like it might be customized as well, as the cut-line behind the fenders suggest a front-hinged tilt front-end. I do love the pic, as the representation of a great time in American car culture.... Too bad I was only 1 at the time ;-) Dan D '76B '65B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Don To: mgs@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:15 AM Subject: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture This article was reprinted in the November Abingdon Rough Rider Review. Check it out in the NY Times where it originally appeared. Looks like young people are not so enamored with automobiles as we were. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/sunday-review/the-end-of-car-culture.html?_ r=0 ---------------------------------------- Don Scott, Calistoga CA USA 1955 MGTF, 1962 MGA Mk 2, 1967 MGB, 1963-7 MGB (seeking), Misc. 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[107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r3sm6581692oep.2.2013.10.25.06.01.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:01:04 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: d_dibiase@yahoo.com, don@napanet.net, mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Joining the thread late, but I must concur. As some of you know, I have a number of cars, including two Ferraris. They are both from the Enzo-era and have minimal electronics (ignition only). I recently was tempted to 'upgrade' from my '85 Testarossa in favor of a 360 Modena or perhaps even a 430. I then spent a weekend working on my friend's '89 Mondial T. Its a 2+2 Ferrari with the 348 drivetrain. And I know these words and numbers mean little to anyone who isn't familiar with these cars - and it doesn't matter. What does matter is that the Mondial T / 348 starting in 1989, changed from mechanical systems to electronic systems.B Now I like electrons as much as the next guy but the circuits they run in are another issue. The Mondial T I referenced was running terribly when it arrived at my garage. One bank of the engine was buggered. Turned out to be a failed MAF (Mass Air Flow) sensor. And if this were a Honda, a new MAF would probably be $100 at O'Reilly's Autoparts. But no. The Ferrari part is NLA and the used part, if you can find one, is over $600 plus shipping from Europe. The short story on this car is that I opened the MAF and found the problem to be corrosion in the A/F ratio potentiometer. I cleaned it and lubricated it with 'tuner cleaner' (Remember when TVs had 'tuners'?) and B the MAF once again worked. If the problem had been the 'hot wire' or something less simple than crud in a pot, we would have been hosed. So the reason for the story is to state that this experience told me to stick with my old-school cars. I mean, with a limited production car like a Ferrari 430, who's to say unique parts will remain available? What do you have when someday you push the 'Start' button and nothing happens? B Can you say $100k parts car? On the parallel topic of advertising; almost nothing is said about the machine we call a car. Everything seems to be about the fluff. Bluetooth and iPhone interface my a$$. And how does selectable mood lighting affect handling?B I guess a plus for incompetent drivers is that in a new car one can go into a turn at 20 over the limit, texting and sipping a latte, and probably survive it. Sit down in my 308GTB. And with a four-pack of Webers it says, "I'm going to kill you. Now try to stop me!" I like that. Okay, rant over. I'll go quietly back to my cage now. -rickB _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 08:58:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019224363A for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:58:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAF542F0C for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:29:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.16.1.2] (unknown [98.145.151.67]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B80A28AAE; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:28:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Whiteman Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 07:28:38 -0700 References: To: Don Cc: MGS List Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Don wrote: > This article was reprinted in the November Abingdon Rough Rider > Review. Check it out in the NY Times where it originally > appeared. Looks like young people are not so enamored with > automobiles as we were. While there is likely a cultural change as well, part of the problem is simple affordability. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/10/generation-why-no-job-no-money-no-ca r/ -- Aaron _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 09:02:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6667D43712 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from epsilon.look.ca (epsilon.look.ca [216.66.192.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6FB43661 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:42:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from e120-pool-d89a45c3.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.69.195] helo=Barrie-PC.look.ca) by epsilon.look.ca with esmtpa (user vectis@look.ca)(Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VZiYz-0003ZH-ET; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:40:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:40:23 -0400 To: Dan DiBiase ,Don , "mgs@autox.team.net" From: Barrie Robinson > References: <1382704090.40463.YahooMailNeo@web164906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net It is an early Austin Healey. Just look at the dash shape, drop down windscreen and you can see the holders in front on the trim line. Wings look slightly off but maybe just the camera angle. Engine probably the original. Also the trim around the cockpit was a nice AH touch. Poor car has probably been butchered. At 05:28 AM 25/10/2013 -0700, Dan DiBiase wrote: >BTW, trying to figure out what car that is in the foreground, with the cut-out >bonnet. Kinda looks like an Austin-Healey, but looks like >it might have a V8 >with twin carbs, and the shifter is certainly not stock spec. Almost looks >like it might be customized as well, as the >cut-line behind the fenders >suggest a front-hinged tilt front-end. > >I do love the pic, as the >representation of a great time in American car culture.... Too bad I was only >1 at the time ;-) > >Dan D >'76B >'65B >Central NJ USA >________________________________ > From: Don >To: >mgs@autox.team.net >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:15 AM >Subject: [Mgs] The >End of Car Culture > > >This article was reprinted in the November Abingdon >Rough Rider >Review. Check it out in the NY Times where it originally >appeared. Looks like young people are not so enamored with >automobiles as we >were. >http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/sunday-review/the-end-of-car-culture.html?_ >r=0 > > >---------------------------------------- > >Don Scott, Calistoga CA USA >1955 MGTF, 1962 MGA Mk 2, 1967 MGB, 1963-7 MGB (seeking), Misc. Japanese cars >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs@autox.team.net >Donate: >http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: >http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca Regards, Barrie Barrie Robinson MGB GT V8 in concours condition Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.AMFClub.com www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca barrie@look.ca Barrie, Ontario 705-721-9060 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 10:02:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5308C436CB for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:02:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-7.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-7.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B874367A for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:35:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-7-imp with bizsmtp id hTZx1m01u4LtS4201TZxtk; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:33:57 +0100 a=4yIkrneqh2AA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=bRfdSvdhetUA:10 a=_VyeEx5aME1B5w1dEZIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kapQNT2-nLwA:10 a=344axD4S8uAA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: References: <1382704090.40463.YahooMailNeo@web164906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:29:03 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net It wasn't a classic then :o) ----- Original Message ----- > ... Poor car has probably been butchered. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 12:26:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFD94382F for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:26:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E32436CB for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:01:45 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=PILTQtjokav7IqXK1Pv/6cXUxkEHkwUEgWxQNai4xSslP66mKAeJDRh+IFZKbtgR; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.37] (helo=elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VZley-0008VI-1n for mgs@autox.team.net; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:58:56 -0400 Received: from 174.99.72.231 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:58:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:58:55 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Bill Mills To: "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mgs] Get classic cars racing movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Just finished watching "The Fast and Furious (1955)" on TCM network. Great old racers. It's on Netflix too and available for streaming. John Ireland is rough and tough fugitive. Other good films with a lot of old racers?? Bill '74BGT with Sabrina bumpers _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 16:20:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D444044D for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:20:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f180.google.com (mail-ve0-f180.google.com [209.85.128.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A10C43876; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:53:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id oy12so1065782veb.39 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:52:03 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m6MRolDcj88Iig1ADaHkHkVUXwnSgrJcrVPb18450wI=; b=V+PkG/LHRL6+4PNKnlOUH83c7Z6FekzpYTtkVKw4j6dj8lV2F9oa0ervOn6R4xris4 6kOEd46Ztnj9bAYAU0JNoyeKCJVeKPcGVVeTo4UJ79jRn+EKrO1lXylwcr4lpu3fyfJJ bNUMwLpPpHlLfHjqi+HYaF2/Vcg0TYjSLj4vs8sdmsagYlI2P3IcJ1shGTVNBSKvcAPF KeXA4ZTO4IeeKFFZbz4vk8L0F0ThqD6n2iFZeuAxwsu5+st7/20VmrWoSYU0VIk/zuaA VDZxBROuFyhWoa/JLTXeblVmLgNgidxyYe2IRVhPBQ3PPleosbvvGT7RB+s5l61jPznY xMrA== Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.152.174 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:52:03 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Progress in the TD's cockpit wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, This afternoon I installed the turn signal relay box. As I wrote earlier, the harness did not match my car's orientation. Today I added about 12" of wire to the eight harness wires and installed the relay box where I found it. Here's how it looks today. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131025_154927.jpg I'll unmount the box and lay it back from the panel so I can paint the metal with POR15. I'll then reattach it once the anti-rust coating is cured. Here's how the cockpit looks now. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131025_162030.jpg I still need to unbolt the steering column from the support so I can slip on the new draft excluder. Yea, there's no end to the fun. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 26 06:59:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9580D43103 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:59:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D8F40442 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:47:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2013 12:46:34 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.229] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2013 12:46:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1038.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2013 12:46:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 90256 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Oct 2013 12:46:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382791594; bh=itlLaBBmbU/gttYHs9ybRUCufGcTwrxVMUWB0Z0RTlo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zE33IAJlI36j5CtMvl/qXPiMg2xUZmu35FJu7CWWnCFVnhUqP2NNYvbUtDnYHqUwuMYH68TJ2dCObQRwBcBQ70QCMArzX2Xiu6wU6V0sa97+r2i2+M41lkVR05Lp01t4EBotsvVn8op4QQwy2Wrffd1BB7vbLQptc17LCHvuBJI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F4tkE6+W7Sb2uTecSjdEjmNcCGYY4txSspPW6d4JxALgQK9DMZ+4bYa31sZPnaYoTRiFxG9vzQad5gdK4F8peplGfV2GElXayEzmyZBa+DH6s95wFzcmb1WDBgEU++LF6JRTinTFmgwI/WurDELfI4syvLQklyc0GoPm+HJozwM=; Hai8CFCLl2ZTlBavaYvvobk_pBlXCkCl3h29RhCcZEYb6PiVAw0CQYw8mAHB k_gFTJPrfszm3VGPmXwMH7QGobchcxcHQY5pqUKJyFixQq8srXQ2tPyg6HI_ xFfqnffeixdpiz9HP_wmxjknqggVVsDmmlVCB5lTXIS4Dhy3X7gNhupG9cj2 Eo51Eneu9lbsXJPNQwWcz4grs92m_2z6VLsCoyHZCa_SqOoAOkstPFSmx1SG qE.I1z3QkJ1I8mvwnJvAN0vEQemihTXvkLFjY7Rw6BezCKB1hPl.rMTfpAA8 njJ.lRxo.Rr_gldvEPyKP.9mVJLP0qfEXJz.lNYoA1ap87wqIBHmROM9HVRP 5OsLrRGLmWpc.PpksjttnkHu9Vj_9dpEr0iz1OPxx3etmjKDQe6Wana_RcR6 T2uEWORfyrrBMEgVZGRR5QwUwHwo0WClUHsAJXHsNDZ.iT51uRfPGhITPaY1 as6PltpKKCzVeU_zNPMSizGwiHS0Lx9v7mVeaJuwpOntPSEb7tWdKDb.tHHs CoAi_8G0ElajaKD_s_h6MMIUtcdOiXe5Fancj4q..k_oVcnXh7h_wqsS8I26 augvbuF8TsgPXCsrKpwsFCuc1XhkiBTsfvdCSiGXhetHYJkAU4FtRVpdBYWe JDn0phA-- Received: from [69.248.132.241] by web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 05:46:33 PDT SXQncyBzdGFydGluZyB0byBsb29rIGxpa2UgYSByZWFsIGNhciBhZ2FpbiwgUmljayEKCkRhbiBECgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogUmljaGFyZCBMaW5kc2F5IDxyaWNoYXJkb2xpbmRzYXlAZ21haWwuY29tPgpUbzogIm1nc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCBMaXN0IiA8bWdzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PjsgIm1nLXRAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQiIDxtZy10QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PjsgUnVpIEdpZ2FudGUgPHJ1aS5naWdhbnRlQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gClNlbnQ6IEZyaWQBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 05:46:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan DiBiase To: Richard Lindsay , "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Progress in the TD's cockpit wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net It's starting to look like a real car again, Rick! Dan D ________________________________ From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" ; "mg-t@autox.team.net" ; Rui Gigante Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: [Mgs] Progress in the TD's cockpit wiring Hello Friends, This afternoon I installed the turn signal relay box. As I wrote earlier, the harness did not match my car's orientation. Today I added about 12" of wire to the eight harness wires and installed the relay box where I found it. Here's how it looks today. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131025_154927.jpg I'll unmount the box and lay it back from the panel so I can paint the metal with POR15. I'll then reattach it once the anti-rust coating is cured. Here's how the cockpit looks now. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131025_162030.jpg I still need to unbolt the steering column from the support so I can slip on the new draft excluder. Yea, there's no end to the fun. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 26 08:07:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5164C43141 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 08:07:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com (mail-ob0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F127D40434; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 07:36:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id vb8so2015466obc.5 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:34:53 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=ZLxJI0L+1Qy87ZFPagqSPbe7kqWDX24v+1UQYCMfre4=; b=rFb9apH7asrz3PStHBglZvNESWmwHu7aH+gwIS8YMkzRI3V7yiuYhxQ1g2PY8X7HlZ WXSGCi86Tv2ZnKpqqew9kny9tBuPH+tl+WiV2f4/Kc0E0owwlFA8O78y2HbAQjLjWRgM vFaLyWaihZ5T6tBW6easxN+ZZh9mMVDs7eaEtfWc3tuXrbamep7PtWqbQcQ0qcYLnPZL dA5BlA3in1DOqzt9GEVkBVggqBAgsQAs+a4HG7stdy2+nXP1WHUpgNLYvGxHZIDtcsJn Txtd8vASpRd0G1aJoCIDH7dOyeJGiooTg6s7CdtA/IZcRzTtkRQWWs4DO9pRvG4Qwxk8 mb6g== e6mr3276621obm.14.1382794493785; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ee7sm16121052oeb.5.2013.10.26.06.34.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 08:34:49 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] TD carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Morning Friends, Now that the TD's engine room is wired, its time to mount the accelerator pedal and complete the carbs. I had purchased new screws for the linkage bits but they are a tiny bit too large. The old screws are chewed up and ugly. I'll make another trip out to the hardware store today and purchase B slightly smaller screws. I can the assemble the linkage properly.B I also need to set the float levels (to 3/8") and install the plumbing correctly. I still need to flush out the fuel line back to the tank. Its been sitting open for a few months now. After the line is clear I may paint the spare tire carrier so I can mount the fuel tank. That's a stretch-goal for the day. More later, -rick PS: No, I don't have another life. :-) _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 26 23:32:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71B1438B7 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:32:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DBA430E5 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:16:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id i5Bo1m00227AodY5E5DFsu; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 05:13:15 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([69.137.94.144]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id i5DE1m00S36tVd93f5DFXP; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 05:13:15 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 00:13:02 -0500 From: Glenn Schnittke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1382850795; bh=4CfRA/A5pizZNyYmmR9IvPvulczgZ0MZ0glEdVGOxQA=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=nbRGvQbrXxobFh8WRM/+dhvHrmWreJvbjDe7fIz0BPmyQw8JjOu8otIXwS3yqQQoQ naRCuCeHrsE0E0LTg6qRm0/9gR9AaYhCFpvslcg4Z6xYy3ojL5WKYQzYCVw4l/P/Au h3VJQbG4W/B71CkNNM2vYoETMbyHDxVDxiYX6Fbsl1Ko2wlF2STP83CvwJvZ3fN02c KtXJMfwNBggpVyLra+aVRrER7ruD40W9zzcqqjEnHqNsQke/sRRXJ5E+tc/5R4/iig ttf5nqZoCeXiLOWIAIdz/Vs2H9aiANO1UNMYpHj4pAiZC1rTgybssaB1Ha2Uy6N4Yl k7bXR8Y7PFWag== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Get classic cars racing movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Jette and I just finished 'Drive a Crooked Road' which was on TCM several weeks ago. Mickey Rooney isn't acting in it anymore than he was in 'The Black Stallion'. (He enjoyed fast cars and fast horses.) You could tell he was just being himself, at least through the first half. That's where all the cars are. The second half turns to drama and he starts acting and it's still good. He works as a Britcar dealer mechanic who gets seduced into a heist by a hot broad. Good film. Even she's believable. Another one of TCM's surprises. Glenn On 10/26/2013 1:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:58:55 -0400 (GMT-04:00) > From: Bill Mills > To:"mgs@autox.team.net" > Subject: [Mgs] Get classic cars racing movie > Message-ID: > <12704444.1382723936085.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Just finished watching "The Fast and Furious (1955)" on TCM network. Great old racers. It's on Netflix too and available for streaming. John Ireland is rough and tough fugitive. > > Other good films with a lot of old racers?? > > Bill > '74BGT with Sabrina bumpers _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 06:30:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782F44352F for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 06:30:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D0D43236; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 06:18:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id vb8so2587979obc.36 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 05:17:13 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=fpK1KJQosYrgjF06OT5rpk3DgRrCHOUcz2aZCubP2lk=; b=s2R6rj3QdDABjZO6HlCwhWLJS9BbNtHjmrVoRymXcIcUDUAF6maKgs6wbYbSbHK7TN hG4b1q4ZDzIke3kXcZR8VIoiXnypGEYHl8Vr044U7Ii1BSpY/Nhfc987XeF+f7ohMANw 2cyIJS4oYwrflh1a6hpBi/5LtQj3YgLGVG7wdNlcMe2z+VcTm8JMfK0A9eJ1ZbnuduLu feZo4YJdL4/RyQMumiTSUrzcD/1oRBAiM4UjV8tjwTSipzpJde4DN7kqH4RijExQ6trf UnwmVnbO+fKAYlbfCQicWGuDTxOaTbr1hZ5JwlxITjRwmDSrh7+1jQikg/ugCymKoBEu k8sw== Sun, 27 Oct 2013 05:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m7sm19327980obo.7.2013.10.27.05.17.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Oct 2013 05:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 07:17:10 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] A bust... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net ...and not the good kind! I had high plans for yesterday, including painting the TD's spare carrier and mounting the fuel tank. Nothing happened in the garage; nothing, nada, nyet. Spent all day running errands. Is it any wonder that 'errand' and 'error' seem to have the same root?! :-P Raining today so no painting. Seems a good day to clean the workbenches. Picked up and swept the garage the day before (in anticipation of painting). No matter. I'm retired and retirement has been about relaxed schedules. I still need to mount the TD's doors and adjust the tub shims for proper door alignment. That seems like good rainy day work. Yea, silver linings, etc.. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 10:13:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EAA438EC for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:13:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-48.hostmonster.com (outbound-ss-48.hostmonster.com [66.147.241.60]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1033042F01 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:42:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 30873 invoked by uid 0); 27 Oct 2013 15:41:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy18-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2013 15:41:20 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=/MhSDQlBiXBpXsEosqS2oEvJkKCtuqYXaGR0qtSanrw=; b=eBk/FlF2VeGBXvWG0G2JqvDVd7q7LLdlsUr1kn++8W40WVQP3cFUtKZ0dJuVb+7JdqZCoeQ1KiZbGEczoNQuGpcahGoQfXVoaJKYLibwSURRNz0O1rOMARSXxOkztsWn; Received: from c-24-15-13-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([24.15.13.164]:24427 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VaSSt-0000IX-E9; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:41:19 -0600 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:41:05 -0500 From: Shop User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: Rick Lindsay , "mgs@autox.team.net" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" References: <526D0FD8.9050302@justbrits.com> <7C3E7DA9-6038-44ED-8CBC-A31B88626AA5@flash.net> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] [Mg-t] A bust... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net << On 10/27/2013 8:20 AM, WBEECH wrote: Everyday is Saturday ! >> LOL Beech, er actually LMAO ! ! ! ! ! Thanks ! Ed Please visit my site at: www.justbrits.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 11:28:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC854316F for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:28:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepi208.cox.net (fed1rmfepi208.cox.net [68.230.241.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D241343130 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:07:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20131027170141.ZPMQ9629.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 13:01:41 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([72.199.157.107]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id iH1g1m0062KJoQg01H1hzV; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 13:01:41 -0400 a=v4+1TVkVnhocx6iSoA/Zcg==:17 a=YNM-4kX3pUoA:10 a=4yIkrneqh2AA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=bRfdSvdhetUA:10 a=ZJjxc0SMAAAA:8 a=hRo9ojSpxGm6blp6ZpcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=8AVof2yO7kAA:10 a=v4+1TVkVnhocx6iSoA/Zcg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=stargazer1@cox.net Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:01:40 -0700 From: David Ambrose User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This feels like one of those articles where New York wants to pretend the rest of the world is just like New York. I know that a lot of young people have deferred buying better cars because they can't afford it, not because they don't want them. My oldest daughter is married and they have one car. She lives within walking distance of her work, which is unusual. They're saving the money which is a good thing. But, that said, she still appreciates a cool car. My other kids like cars too. My son drives a '70 Midget. After a difficult start, he's learning to work on it. My middle daughter likes hot rods, though she doesn't have much inclination for car wrenching. I do wonder what will happen to classic cars when we all get too old to drive them. Same thing for hot rods. The general population of enthusiasts is rapidly graying. Cheers, Dave Ambrose Car culture is very much alive here in SoCal. On 10/24/2013 10:15 PM, Don wrote: > This article was reprinted in the November Abingdon Rough Rider > Review. Check it out in the NY Times where it originally > appeared. Looks like young people are not so enamored with > automobiles as we were. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/sunday-review/the-end-of-car-culture.html?_r=0 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 13:35:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E3544278 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 13:35:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D72642F0F for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:16:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id iJFQ1m0072QmmGk01JFQWU; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:15:25 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <526D46F4.6090202@cox.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 13:15:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I have found every kid I've met loves cool old cars. and everyone of every age who sees those little cars stuffed into the garage are envious. now whether that translates into hard dollars and actually owning one is a different story. beware the liberal east coast media and their pronouncements. donbt fear the demise of our hobby. these cars are special, and only a small proportion of the population really appreciates antique cars enough to get one. those special people will continue to keep our cars and other antiques on the road. here in texas car shows are becoming so popular that you could spend all day every weekend at them. -----Original Message----- From: David Ambrose Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:01 PM To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture This feels like one of those articles where New York wants to pretend the rest of the world is just like New York. I know that a lot of young people have deferred buying better cars because they can't afford it, not because they don't want them. My oldest daughter is married and they have one car. She lives within walking distance of her work, which is unusual. They're saving the money which is a good thing. But, that said, she still appreciates a cool car. My other kids like cars too. My son drives a '70 Midget. After a difficult start, he's learning to work on it. My middle daughter likes hot rods, though she doesn't have much inclination for car wrenching. I do wonder what will happen to classic cars when we all get too old to drive them. Same thing for hot rods. The general population of enthusiasts is rapidly graying. Cheers, Dave Ambrose _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 14:07:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE914432B for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:07:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D00043096 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 13:22:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.182] by nm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2013 19:21:31 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.219] by tm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2013 19:21:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2013 19:21:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 57507 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2013 19:21:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382901691; bh=itRLGHF7AjtexuVuSBKSSi8M7zC5y1pZC0VegZ9msyk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TiEQgrDKDT5RHv5caspW2b5kdkXQCJdUegTu/py/FAAhFJKU7tekihPq62S9Iyy2RhPu1uzq8+u1Wyrt2luhjnpkC5hT1kUSvHykNDYsfNbSEmVRhXzW7Mk/IQI7kOlTTVzhBiU6hzw7oHLBrdllAnlzqyzKGWosaOAw1gUg2vA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AL4I7Ydx84XCRk8Quv00q3ewg1mBhu4Ard3OyMgffsI9VNU2VjaRajLoBnB5Km2e2RaCbQxFLts+0BpPbYs9hNRkINYw2HWhwiPUQ3DrqV1rC1FrAt5fqigLlFokCfUZgDHK329QBHJYesqGC0hfu9UCgXj8hehTdJn34odWE7k=; NsbPW_1pC0RzUW91sF3MhB0d72hPQK_82XZo5rnvKGeQnst5ZzHsJ6xPDH94 6XotaV6EVYw1Rk.qckWAOM8Znznz4A4t.MKrLbvJdq8alkHkvjaoJl7Ho5j0 xrH9EpHP.3esaCF.4E.APCritqaeXh_cpS5HZ73RoO5.xH8wXxRCQzzJt_E7 n4pIRIycpvI_C8QBkMLyT2N44vtyHWCNGhFtHigd._WYjI.tYB0GUVSh.de9 JqHYWKPWrHU8fyHh1oWlmRJF4bwcMOedlen8NtlhfpBcfKjSo2CalDFcH3oi y4_t_BVBEixNoxjsD4UN.y1Iy1r0RhwIBbnW_WEb2JI5nBAneCG1hxIRnha1 wwkQ18Z3MjVokE_tkIuqsX3MIvtJ6IavOp2NtyAgLIwCYbbQbWpDfnrWhh_2 vngcXLHbCc8D1HQiGrVQGTDK7CCs7JX7G3imPf0YnBSmFcFrGSoFQJgCViBw drO1pjPlYlsuu7bAmH7IGSbRpUm9HE0BZXw5SalAXYw4IvNuRNZABqTffGfX QX._sWz5pxbuWgDxES93FMLQ9pCfgHpFbxwrAOHkGAs9f Received: from [75.121.232.179] by web163901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:21:31 PDT CsKgRnJvbTogRGF2aWQgQW1icm9zZSA8c3RhcmdhemVyMUBjb3gubmV0PgoKCj4gCj5UIGhpcyBmZWVscyBsaWtlIG9uZSBvZiB0aG9zZSBhcnRpY2xlcyB3aGVyZSBOZXcgWW9yayB3YW50cyB0byBwcmV0ZW5kIAo.IHRoZSByZXN0IG9mIHRoZSB3b3JsZCBpcyBqdXN0IGxpa2UgTmV3IFlvcmsuCj4gCgpUaG9zZSBhcmUgdGhlIG9ubHkga2luZCBvZiBhcnRpY2xlcyB0aGUgTmV3IFlvcmsgVGltZXMgcHVibGlzaGVzLAphcmVuJ3QgdGhleT_CoCBUaGUgIkRlYXRoIG9mIHRoZSBDYXIgQ3VsdHVyZSIgaGFzIGIBMAEBAQE- References: <526D46F4.6090202@cox.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:21:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David Breneman To: David Ambrose , "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net From: David Ambrose > >T his feels like one of those articles where New York wants to pretend > the rest of the world is just like New York. > Those are the only kind of articles the New York Times publishes, aren't they? The "Death of the Car Culture" has been predicted for four decades that I can remember. My 8th grade Social Studies teacher told us (this would have been 1972) that by the time we graduated high school we wouldn't be able to afford cars because gas would be $10 a gallon. Remember "peak oil"? The Arab oil embargoes also marked the end of car culture, as did the benighted reign or terror of NHTSA head Joan Claybrook. When gas hit $2 a gallon it was the end of car culture. When it hit $3 a gallon it was likewise the end of car culture. Global warming will bring the end of car culture. Cheap, efficient, ubiquitous mass transit will bring the end of car culture. Dih-Dah, Did-Dah, Dih-Dah. Hasn't happened yet. It's human nature to embrace the freedom that private car ownership provides. "Car culture" is freedom culture. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 17:46:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDB3434D9 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:46:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta52.windstream.net (pacmmta52.windstream.net [162.39.147.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F5D403BC for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:17:15 -0600 (MDT) cv=97PW2gncEfEy/YSu3i0wcK7PNIrIpcw1RraxUDB8BKE= c=1 sm=0 a=YNM-4kX3pUoA:10 a=4yIkrneqh2AA:10 a=We2GSUcPNccA:10 a=fOpwdquTRaQA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ZJjxc0SMAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=hRo9ojSpxGm6blp6ZpcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=8AVof2yO7kAA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=SdvNMj5PkgcA:10 a=/PHGCZnTh2Rxj3vt954s4g==:117 Authentication-Results: pacmmta52 smtp.user=ccrobins@ktc.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [151.213.155.54] ([151.213.155.54:55078] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by pacmmta52 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39824M)) with ESMTPA id 7A/67-13603-1BE9D625; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:16:01 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:15:58 -0500 From: Charley & Peggy Robinson Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 To: Don , mgs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The reference in the article to BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) in the SF bay area is telling. Where there is effective public transportation owning a car may not make much sense. But here in the TX hill country most everyone owns a vehicle of some sort out of necessity. CR On 10/25/2013 12:15 AM, Don wrote: > This article was reprinted in the November Abingdon Rough Rider > Review. Check it out in the NY Times where it originally > appeared. Looks like young people are not so enamored with > automobiles as we were. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/sunday-review/the-end-of-car-culture.html?_r=0 > > > ---------------------------------------- > > Don Scott, Calistoga CA USA > 1955 MGTF, 1962 MGA Mk 2, 1967 MGB, 1963-7 MGB (seeking), Misc. Japanese cars > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 20:25:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2C943130 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:25:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from crabmail.rutgers.edu (crabmail1.rutgers.edu [165.230.111.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7384342F97 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:45:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crabmail.rutgers.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76E71AE0076 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crabmail.rutgers.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (crabmail.rutgers.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PGvYJWhzQWQh for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crab.rutgers.edu (crab.rutgers.edu [165.230.111.194]) by crabmail.rutgers.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F6D1AE005B for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool-173-71-99-50.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net ([173.71.99.50]) by crab.rutgers.edu with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:35:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:35:26 -0400 From: saidel To: References: <526D9EAE.4050500@ktc.com> User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.7.2 Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Here in NJ (southern), the public bus transportation is "crappy" because i) there are no real central points of population, ii) the public transportation by bus depends on roads and traffic which reflect the problems inherent in a congested system. Since the system is poor, buses are untimely. Since they are untimely, they are not dependable. Since they are not dependable, people drive their cars on inadequate roads for the numbers of cars, which entails even more congestion which increases the lack of public transportation dependability. A nasty cycle. On the other hand, the public train system to Philadelphia uses tracks and is dependable. It seems to be quite a decent system (after having sampled public trains or subways in Boston (go Sox!), NYC, Washington, DC and SF. In my opinion, the bus system in SF is excellent relative to NJ. oh well. Bill S. BMCSNJ On 2013-10-27 19:15, Charley & Peggy Robinson wrote: > The reference in the article to BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) in the > SF bay area is telling. Where there is effective public > transportation owning a car may not make much sense. But here in the > TX hill country most everyone owns a vehicle of some sort out of > necessity. > > CR > On 10/25/2013 12:15 AM, Don wrote: >> This article was reprinted in the November Abingdon Rough Rider >> Review. Check it out in the NY Times where it originally >> appeared. Looks like young people are not so enamored with >> automobiles as we were. >> >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/sunday-review/the-end-of-car-culture.html?_r=0 >> >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> >> Don Scott, Calistoga CA USA >> 1955 MGTF, 1962 MGA Mk 2, 1967 MGB, 1963-7 MGB (seeking), Misc. >> Japanese cars >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/saidel@camden.rutgers.edu _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 02:44:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F81438F7 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:44:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4215C4321D for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id iYVF1m00Z4LtS4201YVFFt; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:29:15 +0000 a=4yIkrneqh2AA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=bRfdSvdhetUA:10 a=mcymKH8XdQaP_BTtANsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: References: <526D46F4.6090202@cox.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:06:37 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net It's just lazy journos sitting at a computer looking at a set of numbers and taking a set of numbers at face value instead of getting off their backsides and finding out what they mean. Last weekend the 'economics editor' of the Sunday Times built his weekly article around the 'fact' that the UK has twice the annual inflation rate of the EU. Or to put it another way, 1.2% higher. ----- Original Message ----- > This feels like one of those articles where New York wants to pretend the > rest of the world is just like New York. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 12:06:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664F844547 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:06:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 64275444C9 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:35:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 8460 invoked by uid 0); 28 Oct 2013 15:47:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2013 15:47:21 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=i/YOlaCu7CSt8wxcrAtktS/qJXD3xM56+71iEXvE0Qs=; b=H4vE/oepXnwxyCDj5slCOG8IPkr8HZAluO2kZ+IRp0e2YWu0Jjm6L2SLWNQI1MRyIM9kvcs6Xn8JSbr5fGDAySbAIb4+dnLEKPzythL2z4UOSzi+5aWU9rdAwVeAbyjj; Received: from c-24-15-13-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([24.15.13.164]:21437 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vap2H-0005Vn-0v for mgs@autox.team.net; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:47:21 -0600 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 10:47:20 -0500 From: Shop User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <526E869E.5000601@justbrits.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/28/2013 10:45 AM, Ed wrote: > On 10/25/2013 8:01 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > << They are both from the Enzo-era and have minimal electronics (ignition only). > > > > And I know these words and numbers mean little to anyone who isn't familiar with these cars - >> > > Rick, I "think" I know the "answer" but do you mean the early cars that HE could > actually DRIVE (prob'ally with a huge grin) LOL (& work on) the cars eras VS > The "Enzo CAR" (model @ $1,000,000,000.00 ) era? ? ? > > I'm guessing the former ? ! ? ! ? > > << and it doesn't matter. >> > > I would agree with one exception: 'kids' today do NOT want to WORK much less > get their HANDS dirty ! ! ! > > Ed > > PS: Nice parallel. Thanks ! _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 14:15:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61BD444F0 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:15:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from srvmaile1oke.oneok.com (tul.oneok.com [69.44.183.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1295942FE5; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:22:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from srvmailh1oke.oneok.com (10.18.22.22) by srvmaile1oke.oneok.com (10.11.2.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.327.1; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:21:53 -0500 Received: from SRVMAILMBX6OKE.oneok.com ([::1]) by srvmailh1oke.oneok.com ([fe80::d543:48b2:20ba:f03c%12]) with mapi; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:21:24 -0500 From: "Brownlee, Craig" To: Richard Lindsay , "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:21:23 -0500 Thread-Topic: (External) [Mgs] Looking more like a car every day... Thread-Index: Ac7UB7wBNhCCAqKVTIut2kzkfBJ0xgACuquA References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Mgs] (External) Looking more like a car every day... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The best part of the picture of the cockpit is the huge grin on your face that shows in the mirror! You should be proud. Craig A Brownlee Director Asset Strategy, Policy, & Information Systems ONEOK Distribution Companies 100 W. Fifth Street Tulsa, Okla. 74103 www.oneok.com Phone: 918-831-8201 | Fax: 918-831-8213 E-mail: craig.brownlee@oneok.com -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Lindsay Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 12:10 PM To: mgs@autox.team.net List; mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: (External) [Mgs] Looking more like a car every day... Hi Friends, Just a couple of quick pictures this morning. I tightened all the tub mounting bolts to verify the door alignments. Here's a look at how they now fit. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131028_112257.jpg No, the doors haven't been painted yet, but when remounted, the alignment is really good. Here's another picture of the cockpit with various bits being reinstalled - some for alignment purposes (like the mirror), some for final installation. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131028_112203.jpg Ages ago, I posted a picture (link) of the throttle linkage showing the throttle return spring attached to the exhaust header. A kind listmember pointed out that the location was wrong, and that the spring should be anchored to the starter. Will someone please tell me how and where the spring attaches, and even provide a picture, if possible? Thanks. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/craig.brownlee@oneok.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 14:24:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D5D445D4 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pop05.mail.atl.earthlink.net (pop05.mail.atl.earthlink.net [207.69.200.58]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEEF435D0 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:35:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user-0c90ga9.cable.mindspring.com ([24.144.65.73] helo=nHP) by pop05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Vasa8-0000wj-00 for mgs@autox.team.net; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:34:33 -0400 From: "Norm" To: Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:34:32 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7UFKFascKvZQMpQKSuZy3dSSZ7GQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Despite what some on this list may think, the "Car Culture" we have grown up with is NOT what it was. It has morphed. No more drag racing with American cars from the '50's & '60's. It's now cars from the '90's, etc. They are now from Japan, not Detroit. The old guys with their '30's to '50's hot rods are getting older. I was at a gathering yesterday where the newest cars were from the '60's. The owners were from 40 to 80 years old. How much longer do you think the 80-year-olds will be driving? As for the "Liberal east coast media and their pronouncements" spreading fear of the dinouement of the car culture - remember it is the signature philosophy of the conservative movement fostered by Gingrich to promote "fear and anger." That's what he based his political climb on, and that's what the "Down-stream" conservative media promotes. So, please keep politics out of our Car Culture and get out there and PROMOTE LBC's and other cool cars. I started with drag racing and customs, went through many LBC's eventually vintage racing a few, and am now, in my "old age," content with taking my exotic or sports car to the track for an occasional "Driver Education" session. (Sebring was a blast!) What can we do to foster more interest in old or "fun" cars? Take the kids in your neighborhood for a ride now & then. I've taken some out in my exotic & they are in awe. When I offer them the keys after they have been driving safely for a while, they gain a new appreciation for our hobby and our cars. When they start driving, tell their parents & them about the Tire Rack "Street Survival" schools that clubs like the BMW CCA put on. Take them to a vintage race, or a car show. Make cars exciting for them. It is up to ALL OF US to pass on our deep interest in cars. Leave it to the general media & it won't happen. All they do is report on data. And, that data DOES show fewer, by percentage, driving and more waiting longer to get a license. Don't blame the media, blame too many people who are focused on other things. So, it's up to US to foster interest in our hobby. Norm _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 17:06:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018D444675 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C824461D for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:46:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-3104.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.59.252.32] helo=Homeboy2) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1VavDA-0007Tq-QG; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:23:01 -0400 From: "Bob Holton" To: "'Norm'" , References: <010f01ced414$ba6a0db0$2f3e2910$@com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:21:50 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7UFKFascKvZQMpQKSuZy3dSSZ7GQAF1kDw Content-Language: en-ca Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Good on ya Norm, Thanks.. Bob -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norm Sent: October-28-13 3:35 PM To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Despite what some on this list may think, the "Car Culture" we have grown up with is NOT what it was. It has morphed. No more drag racing with American cars from the '50's & '60's. It's now cars from the '90's, etc. They are now from Japan, not Detroit. The old guys with their '30's to '50's hot rods are getting older. I was at a gathering yesterday where the newest cars were from the '60's. The owners were from 40 to 80 years old. How much longer do you think the 80-year-olds will be driving? As for the "Liberal east coast media and their pronouncements" spreading fear of the dinouement of the car culture - remember it is the signature philosophy of the conservative movement fostered by Gingrich to promote "fear and anger." That's what he based his political climb on, and that's what the "Down-stream" conservative media promotes. So, please keep politics out of our Car Culture and get out there and PROMOTE LBC's and other cool cars. I started with drag racing and customs, went through many LBC's eventually vintage racing a few, and am now, in my "old age," content with taking my exotic or sports car to the track for an occasional "Driver Education" session. (Sebring was a blast!) What can we do to foster more interest in old or "fun" cars? Take the kids in your neighborhood for a ride now & then. I've taken some out in my exotic & they are in awe. When I offer them the keys after they have been driving safely for a while, they gain a new appreciation for our hobby and our cars. When they start driving, tell their parents & them about the Tire Rack "Street Survival" schools that clubs like the BMW CCA put on. Take them to a vintage race, or a car show. Make cars exciting for them. It is up to ALL OF US to pass on our deep interest in cars. Leave it to the general media & it won't happen. All they do is report on data. And, that data DOES show fewer, by percentage, driving and more waiting longer to get a license. Don't blame the media, blame too many people who are focused on other things. So, it's up to US to foster interest in our hobby. Norm _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/bholton@golden.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 17:52:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B8E446B4 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:52:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail12.tpgi.com.au (mail12.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4377434D5 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:21:55 -0600 (MDT) 2013 10:20:34 +1100; auth=/X0J75t1ChDYY67dqz+6Qd4jQKMnvLVol4kYJX68JBs= Received: from [10.164.125.155] ([110.150.66.91]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail12.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from arundell@ghs.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r9SNKSPT012000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:20:34 +1100 References: <010f01ced414$ba6a0db0$2f3e2910$@com> <000901ced42c$19d0b1c0$4d721540$@net> From: Murray Arundell Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:20:28 +1100 To: Bob Holton Cc: Norm , "" Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Interesting how people always say "let's keep politics off the list" then go on to detail a particular political party's supposed manifesto. If you want to keep it out begin by not mentioning it at all... Just sayin that's all. Murray Arundell Brisbane Australia Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:21, "Bob Holton" wrote: > > Good on ya Norm, Thanks.. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Norm > Sent: October-28-13 3:35 PM > To: mgs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] The End of Car Culture > > Despite what some on this list may think, the "Car Culture" we have grown up > with is NOT what it was. It has morphed. No more drag racing with American > cars from the '50's & '60's. It's now cars from the '90's, etc. They are > now from Japan, not Detroit. > > The old guys with their '30's to '50's hot rods are getting older. I was at > a gathering yesterday where the newest cars were from the '60's. The owners > were from 40 to 80 years old. How much longer do you think the 80-year-olds > will be driving? > > As for the "Liberal east coast media and their pronouncements" spreading > fear of the dinouement of the car culture - remember it is the signature > philosophy of the conservative movement fostered by Gingrich to promote > "fear and anger." That's what he based his political climb on, and that's > what the "Down-stream" conservative media promotes. So, please keep > politics out of our Car Culture and get out there and PROMOTE LBC's and > other cool cars. > > I started with drag racing and customs, went through many LBC's eventually > vintage racing a few, and am now, in my "old age," content with taking my > exotic or sports car to the track for an occasional "Driver Education" > session. (Sebring was a blast!) > > What can we do to foster more interest in old or "fun" cars? Take the kids > in your neighborhood for a ride now & then. I've taken some out in my exotic > & they are in awe. When I offer them the keys after they have been driving > safely for a while, they gain a new appreciation for our hobby and our cars. > When they start driving, tell their parents & them about the Tire Rack > "Street Survival" schools that clubs like the BMW CCA put on. Take them to > a vintage race, or a car show. Make cars exciting for them. It is up to > ALL OF US to pass on our deep interest in cars. Leave it to the general > media & it won't happen. All they do is report on data. And, that data > DOES show fewer, by percentage, driving and more waiting longer to get a > license. Don't blame the media, blame too many people who are focused on > other things. So, it's up to US to foster interest in our hobby. > > Norm > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/bholton@golden.net > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/arundell@ghs.com.au _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 18:05:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C65B4358C for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:05:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0CB44642 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:40:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wn1so4417431obc.41 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lld4oAcyVgGwsZ62imA5zl1zFiDxeKos5MKpjeuAm8U=; b=uK0e2Is71GfA9npCrEWMp8SDZ9EuRUstcz6ay87TWXmUtvLUhIxvsawcvS2FTnvxP3 PZYyic6yWHD+N7R2hSuzXZeZQIPzZWCr+sEbDE6Oy/por2/SRvOHqAYvoRilZcolaeUY /dhmpsuTSEewvz7kUDNYGJ6LqHKMkB79Ay6shIh8hCZAK/mTKMu1l+J1YWADUYeodX2N kpU0mJ6g4D0kV/merC5rKvrD2wDJUuxNN4H2yNCji5Qem33DrgA1Ik9EuzS8kPlCpJ0c UzeUF4hFrh5SNA5308TT9v6DW22Fi9tHb2dCLiFIGrwuKeu5n9td+Xo3k48WxrJ7dUBl KLMw== lk9mr17210515obb.32.1383003553274; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.112.200 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:39:13 -0500 From: Jack Feldman To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Victoria British Power Window Kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Just curious if anyone has tried to install that kit, and what their experiences were. Jack _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 17:23:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8538C435CD for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:23:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f176.google.com (mail-ve0-f176.google.com [209.85.128.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A72E434E6; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:22:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f176.google.com with SMTP id jx11so439021veb.35 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:21:22 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m8J4+2ue7UGYl4oTJjzVLrcVzGA2sJIRmvBYTvcSvMk=; b=UQY7K7a+A73FtHsJqOi+FTWCwSfckin2a72341jH8970Ftw1EIsGK4u0jTqz3YuEGz vllFtNKqKN0w7hIucxIjgsJpgWArrm8PTRHenyBUcWXvOAcq8kCu9p1rTXx3Ew6yr7MS imqMrx1cBlTHqXSeKW8IpoyWyvgdCIbNU8fYKPV+vB9z/DFvy/07ULRSBGkBucuuBOch Ukpj8f0mfBQEHwSJXoD/D4Xk3coEDu3fsjoz2n4+mkN6fWDV0toWmyzTsG21uYxeMhBT koN6iBnNj7JDLHI89JFjSwPEySVlxk6Inug027fxarvsowxUZNBtxXYoyvy9z2XXaWhQ oOKg== kd10mr1039206vec.32.1383088882463; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.152.174 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:21:22 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Slow progress... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Progress was slow today. Lots of other errands to run. Still, I made some progress. I installed the glove box and attached it to the sub-dashboard. Its solidly attached and looks nice. I had installed a new lining earlier. I then tested then connected the new harness to the headlight foot-operated dip-switch. I mounted it to the side bulkhead, using new hardware. Harness was perfect. And speaking of hardware, I replaced the bolts holding the tub to the uprights on the frame. I had used bolts that I had in hand, which were too long, AND I had installed them incorrectly. Today I bought new bolts 1/4" shorter and installed them correctly: with the bolt head on the inside of the cockpit. Looks better and there's nothing 'pointy' sticking into the footwell. I next sorted out and labeled the harness wires at the dashboard. The Moss harness is nicely done. It even includes the fog light circuit! The only issue I have found is that the turn signal relay box wires assume the box is mounted differently from my car. Still, an hour's work, some solder, bulk wire and heat-shrink tubing put that right. New tires arrived for the other project; the '73 Volvo 1800ES. I still have to paint the wheels then get the new tires mounted. Rain is forecast tonight and into the next couple of days, so no painting immediately. That's it. Happy Tuesday. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 31 13:07:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0D944502 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:07:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B14B42B12 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:00:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A7CA1AAC for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:58:56 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:58:55 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] Rear axle pinion thrust washer? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Being a Triumph sort of person, I'm not well versed in tracking down MGB parts. Moss Motors lists the 267-900 THRUST WASHER, pinion .222" as N/A, in any of the thicknesses. Are there alternate sources for these items, or are we looking at custom fabrication? Thanks, mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 31 13:21:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B938446EE for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:21:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nlpi176.prodigy.net (nlpi176.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C322442E3 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:20:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from barney-gaylord.mgaguru.com (adsl-99-135-89-146.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net [99.135.89.146]) (authenticated bits=0) by nlpi176.prodigy.net (8.14.4 smptauth/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9VJIp1F012632; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 14:18:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 14:19:03 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis , MG List From: Barney Gaylord References: <5272A86F.9040108@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Rear axle pinion thrust washer? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net If you have dimensions, ID, OD, thickness, you can check with local bearing supply houses. At 12:58 PM 10/31/2013 -0600, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >Being a Triumph sort of person, I'm not well versed in tracking down >MGB parts. >Moss Motors lists the > > >267-900 THRUST WASHER, pinion .222" > >as N/A, in any of the thicknesses. > >Are there alternate sources for these items, or are we looking at >custom fabrication? >.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net