Subject: Re: [Mgs] Long time, no type...

From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 15:48:59 +0000

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From: Dan DiBiase <[email-masked]>
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Good to hear from you Rick.

I'm in a bit of a conundrum with my '76B. I haven't started it this year,
as it's been so damn hot that driving it just wouldn't be that much fun.
Maybe this fall will be better. But honestly, I'm reevaluating my desire to
keep on going with it. I sold my '65 B project last fall as I wanted to be
able to garage my Tesla during the winter. I'm not sure the '76 is ever
going to be good enough to, say, take a weekend trip in it and frankly, I'm
not sure I even want to do that. I've been casting my eye on first and
second gen Miatas lately and am thinking that I might sell the '76 and go
that route. Not going to rush into it as I do want to get it running and
see where things are. So that's where I am.

Dan D
'76B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:46 AM Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]=
wrote:

> Hello friends,
>    I haven't written to anyone here for ages. But I'm sitting at an
> airport hotel in Seattle, going home in the morning, and thinking about y=
ou
> and my MGB. If interested, let me share more.
>    I (mostly) restored my '72 MGB to 'usable status' a year or three ago,
> then it got too hot so work stopped (I live in Houston.), then the COVID
> pandemic hit, AND other projects slipped ahead of it. Sigh...
>    Work began again in ernest about a month or so ago. But given Houston'=
s
> 100=C2=B0F summer temperature, I could only work for an hour or two each
> morning. Then we took a short cruise and - you guessed it - Nancy and I
> both got COVID. So work haulted again but we recovered and MG work
> recommenced.
>    I rebuilt the fuel system, replacing the fuel pump with a proper low
> pressure pump. New alcohol-safe rubber hoses went on with new hose clamps=
.
> And I removed the Weber 32/36DGV and put the twin SUs back on. I had
> rebuilt them a bit earlier. Short end to this bit of the story is that th=
e
> engine now starts easily and runs great. Its carbs are only 'static tuned=
'
> so far but a nice, warm engine idle is already possible. Next step, the
> dynamic tuning. I really enjoy that bit. Then the air cleaners go back on=
.
> But wait! There's more.
>    After rebuilding the fuel plumbing I added a couple of gallons of
> premium petrol to the tank only to discover a drip, drip, drip. The fuel
> tank is new but the fuel level sender seal has perished...or perhaps the
> retaining ring isn't adequately tightened. So once I get back home, I'll
> pump the fuel back into the fuel jugs so I can open the sender's seal.
> Waiting in the mailbox at home is a new seal AND a new retaining ring. I
> don't want to risk the old ring being bent or rusty.
>    Also in the fun queue before the interior cosmetic restoration
> recommences, is bleeding the brakes again (all the cylinders and calipers
> are new), reinstalling the cover over the pedal-to-master cylinders, and
> readjusting the brake light switch.
>    I also have a new Al radiator to go on. The OEM radiator is plugged an=
d
> quite inefficient. That's in the queue too.
>    Yeah, lots of fun to be had all before temperatures in Houston fall lo=
w
> enough to permit comfortable, open air motoring. I'll save you the
> descriptions of the cosmetic work remaining to be completed. But suffice =
to
> say, it's mostly panels, a bit of refinishing, a seat diaphragm or two, a=
nd
> a top.
>    Thanks for reading. I'm happy to be back in touch.
>
> Rick Lindsay, on America's South Coast
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Good to hear from you Rick.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>I&#39=
;m in a bit of a conundrum with my &#39;76B. I haven&#39;t started it this =
year, as it&#39;s been so damn hot that driving it just wouldn&#39;t be tha=
t much fun. Maybe this fall will be better. But honestly, I&#39;m reevaluat=
ing=C2=A0my desire to keep on going with it. I sold my &#39;65 B project la=
st fall as I wanted to be able to garage my Tesla during the winter. I&#39;=
m not sure the &#39;76 is ever going to be good enough to, say, take a week=
end trip in it and frankly, I&#39;m not sure I even want=C2=A0to do that. I=
&#39;ve been casting my eye on first and second gen Miatas lately and am th=
inking that I might sell the &#39;76 and go that route. Not going to rush i=
nto it as I do want to get it running and see where things are. So that&#39=
;s where=C2=A0I am.</div><div><br></div><div>Dan D</div><div>&#39;76B</div>=
<div>Central NJ USA<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_s=
ignature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"ht=
tp://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://dandibiase.cbintou=
ch.com/</a></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:46 AM Ric=
hard Lindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">richardolinds=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hello friends,<div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
I haven&#39;t written to anyone here for ages. But I&#39;m sitting at an ai=
rport hotel in Seattle, going home in the morning, and thinking about you a=
nd my MGB. If interested, let me share more.</div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0I (mostly) restored my &#39;72 MGB to &#39;usable status&#39; a year =
or three ago, then it got too hot so work stopped (I live in Houston.), the=
n the COVID pandemic hit, AND other projects slipped ahead of it. Sigh...</=
div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Work began again in ernest about a month=
 or so ago. But given Houston&#39;s 100=C2=B0F summer temperature, I could =
only work for an hour or two each morning. Then we took a short cruise and =
- you guessed it - Nancy and I both got COVID. So work haulted again but we=
 recovered and MG work recommenced.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0I rebuilt the fuel system, replacing the fuel pump with a proper low pre=
ssure pump. New alcohol-safe rubber hoses went on with new hose clamps. And=
 I removed the Weber 32/36DGV and put the twin SUs back on. I had rebuilt t=
hem a bit earlier. Short end to this bit of the story is that the engine no=
w starts easily and runs great. Its carbs are only &#39;static tuned&#39; s=
o far but a nice, warm engine idle is already possible. Next step, the dyna=
mic tuning. I really enjoy that bit. Then the air cleaners go back on. But =
wait! There&#39;s more.</div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0After rebuildin=
g the fuel plumbing I added a couple of gallons of premium petrol to the ta=
nk only to discover a drip, drip, drip. The fuel tank is new but the fuel l=
evel sender seal has perished...or perhaps the retaining ring isn&#39;t ade=
quately tightened. So once I get back home, I&#39;ll pump the fuel back int=
o the fuel jugs so I can open the sender&#39;s seal. Waiting in the mailbox=
 at home is a new seal AND a new retaining ring. I don&#39;t want to risk t=
he old ring being bent or rusty.</div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Also i=
n the fun queue before the interior cosmetic restoration recommences, is bl=
eeding the brakes again (all the cylinders and calipers are new), reinstall=
ing the cover over the pedal-to-master cylinders, and readjusting the brake=
 light switch.</div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0I also have a new Al rad=
iator to go on. The OEM radiator is plugged and quite inefficient. That&#39=
;s in the queue too.</div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Yeah, lots of fun =
to be had all before temperatures in Houston fall low enough to permit comf=
ortable, open air motoring. I&#39;ll save you the descriptions of the cosme=
tic work remaining to be completed. But suffice to say, it&#39;s mostly pan=
els, a bit of refinishing, a seat diaphragm or two, and a top.</div><div di=
r=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks for reading. I&#39;m happy to be back in tou=
ch.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Rick Lindsay, on Ame=
rica&#39;s South Coast=C2=A0</div></div>
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From: Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 07:43:52 -0500

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Hello friends,
   A day or three ago I wrote a long note chronicling the work beginning on
my '72 MGB. A couple of you responded with encouragement. Thank you.
   Now here's a list of the work done to date, and further plans.

+ Tires and wheels cleaned and tire pressures set.
+ Twin SUs reinstalled and tuned, air cleaners put on.
+ Fuel level sender seal replaced and now no more leak.
+ New alloy radiator installed.
+ Fan blade repainted yellow.
+ Both rear and left front wheelwell painted.

To do:

o Paint the right front wheelwell.
o Back-flush the head and block's cooling passages.
o Install the new thermostat.
o Adding 50:50 antifreeze: distilled water mix.
o Remount the master cylinders' mechanism cover.
o Adjust the brake light switch.
o Replace or clean one turn signal lamp.
o Do all the other stuff I have forgotten to include.

Rick

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<div dir=3D"auto">Hello friends,<div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0A day or thr=
ee ago I wrote a long note chronicling the work beginning on my &#39;72 MGB=
. A couple of you responded with encouragement. Thank you.</div><div dir=3D=
"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Now here&#39;s a list of the work done to date, and fur=
ther plans.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">+ Tires and =
wheels cleaned and tire pressures set.</div><div dir=3D"auto">+ Twin SUs re=
installed and tuned, air cleaners put on.</div><div dir=3D"auto">+ Fuel lev=
el sender seal replaced and now no more leak.</div><div dir=3D"auto">+ New =
alloy radiator installed.</div><div dir=3D"auto">+ Fan blade repainted yell=
ow.</div><div dir=3D"auto">+ Both rear and left front wheelwell painted.=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">To do:</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">o Paint the right front wheelwell.<br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">o Back-flush the head and block&#39;s cooling pass=
ages.</div><div dir=3D"auto">o Install the new thermostat.</div><div dir=3D=
"auto">o Adding 50:50 antifreeze: distilled water mix.</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">o Remount the master cylinders&#39; mechanism cover.=C2=A0</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">o Adjust the brake light switch.</div><div dir=3D"auto">o Replace=
 or clean one turn signal lamp.</div><div dir=3D"auto">o Do all the other s=
tuff I have forgotten to include.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Rick</div></div>

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From: Robert's New iPad <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 09:37:12 -0400

HI Rick,
	All things you have done are good thing, reminders to all about care of our treasured MGBs.	
	I infer that your fan is the seven-blade metal fan.   There is a bulletin by MG to dealers that the 1972 cars were to have been refitted with the plastic fan at a dealer when car was in for other service.  Mine was metal, Jan 1972 car, not refitted.  I installed a plastic fan and found that it seemed to deliver more air, was quieter, and enough lighter that I could slack the fan belt a little.
	When you back-flush head and block, have a go at the heater core too. I have found that there was more sediment in the heater than in the rad, a surprising amount of it.
	Today I am stopping by Abingdon Spares to get new gaskets for the OSF side/turn lamp. Water got inside, killed the LED for side lamp, and shorted so that fuse melted.  LEDs in there have been a worthwhile change I believe. Turn sig seems brighter and the sidelamp is definitely brighter and whiter, now truly visible.  Superbright LEDs shows 1972s as having one 1157 bulb, but my car has separate ones.  If you are considering LEDs, I can look up the numbers for you. 
	Happy Motoring,
Bob

> On Aug 26, 2022, at 8:43 AM, Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Hello friends,
>    A day or three ago I wrote a long note chronicling the work beginning on my '72 MGB. A couple of you responded with encouragement. Thank you.
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From: Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 08:42:57 -0500

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Thanks Bob. My car HAS been re-fitted with the plastic fan.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 8:37 AM Robert's New iPad <[email-masked]> wrote:

>         I infer that your fan is the seven-blade metal fan.   There is a
> bulletin by MG to dealers that the 1972 cars were to have been refitted
> with the plastic fan at a dealer when car was in for other service.  Mine
> was metal, Jan 1972 car, not refitted.  I installed a plastic fan and found
> that it seemed to deliver more air, was quieter, and enough lighter that I
> could slack the fan belt a little.
>         When you back-flush head and block, have a go at the heater core
> too. I have found that there was more sediment in the heater than in the
> rad, a surprising amount of it.
>         Today I am stopping by Abingdon Spares to get new gaskets for the
> OSF side/turn lamp. Water got inside, killed the LED for side lamp, and
> shorted so that fuse melted.  LEDs in there have been a worthwhile change I
> believe. Turn sig seems brighter and the sidelamp is definitely brighter
> and whiter, now truly visible.  Superbright LEDs shows 1972s as having one
> 1157 bulb, but my car has separate ones.  If you are considering LEDs, I
> can look up the numbers for you.
>         Happy Motoring,
> Bob
>
>
> >    A day or three ago I wrote a long note chronicling the work beginning
> on my '72 MGB. A couple of you responded with encouragement. Thank you.

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Thanks Bob. My car HAS been re-fitted with the plast=
ic fan.=C2=A0<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 8:37 AM Robert&#39;s New iPad &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex">HI Rick,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 All things you have done are good thing, remind=
ers to all about care of our treasured MGBs.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I infer that your fan is the seven-blade metal =
fan.=C2=A0 =C2=A0There is a bulletin by MG to dealers that the 1972 cars we=
re to have been refitted with the plastic fan at a dealer when car was in f=
or other service.=C2=A0 Mine was metal, Jan 1972 car, not refitted.=C2=A0 I=
 installed a plastic fan and found that it seemed to deliver more air, was =
quieter, and enough lighter that I could slack the fan belt a little.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 When you back-flush head and block, have a go a=
t the heater core too. I have found that there was more sediment in the hea=
ter than in the rad, a surprising amount of it.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Today I am stopping by Abingdon Spares to get n=
ew gaskets for the OSF side/turn lamp. Water got inside, killed the LED for=
 side lamp, and shorted so that fuse melted.=C2=A0 LEDs in there have been =
a worthwhile change I believe. Turn sig seems brighter and the sidelamp is =
definitely brighter and whiter, now truly visible.=C2=A0 Superbright LEDs s=
hows 1972s as having one 1157 bulb, but my car has separate ones.=C2=A0 If =
you are considering LEDs, I can look up the numbers for you. <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Happy Motoring,<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Aug 26, 2022, at 8:43 AM, Richard Lindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ric=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">richardolindsa=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello friends,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 A day or three ago I wrote a long note chronicling the wo=
rk beginning on my &#39;72 MGB. A couple of you responded with encouragemen=
t. Thank you.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Now here&#39;s a list of the work done to date, and furth=
er plans.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; + Tires and wheels cleaned and tire pressures set.<br>
&gt; + Twin SUs reinstalled and tuned, air cleaners put on.<br>
&gt; + Fuel level sender seal replaced and now no more leak.<br>
&gt; + New alloy radiator installed.<br>
&gt; + Fan blade repainted yellow.<br>
&gt; + Both rear and left front wheelwell painted. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; To do:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; o Paint the right front wheelwell.<br>
&gt; o Back-flush the head and block&#39;s cooling passages.<br>
&gt; o Install the new thermostat.<br>
&gt; o Adding 50:50 antifreeze: distilled water mix.<br>
&gt; o Remount the master cylinders&#39; mechanism cover. <br>
&gt; o Adjust the brake light switch.<br>
&gt; o Replace or clean one turn signal lamp.<br>
&gt; o Do all the other stuff I have forgotten to include.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Rick<br>
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From: Craig Brownlee <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 09:44:47 -0500

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Hello Rick,

It is always great to hear stories of your success and it always make me =
want to do more on my B.  I just saw a long range forecast for Oklahoma =
with cooler than normal temperatures for most of September.  I=E2=80=99m =
looking forward to it being cool enough to want to get the MG up and =
running.  We had so many 100 plus days this summer that it and my CLK =
convertible both stayed in the garage.

Have fun with your cars and thanks for sharing your progress!

Craig

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> On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:43 AM, Richard Lindsay =
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> Hello friends,
>    A day or three ago I wrote a long note chronicling the work =
beginning on my '72 MGB. A couple of you responded with encouragement. =
Thank you.
>    Now here's a list of the work done to date, and further plans.

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 Rick,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It is always =
great to hear stories of your success and it always make me want to do =
more on my B. &nbsp;I just saw a long range forecast for Oklahoma with =
cooler than normal temperatures for most of September. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m =
looking forward to it being cool enough to want to get the MG up and =
running. &nbsp;We had so many 100 plus days this summer that it and my =
CLK convertible both stayed in the garage.</div><div class=3D""><br =
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class=3D"">On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:43 AM, Richard Lindsay &lt;<a =
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class=3D"">Hello friends,<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;A day =
or three ago I wrote a long note chronicling the work beginning on my =
'72 MGB. A couple of you responded with encouragement. Thank =
you.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;Now here's a list of =
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