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([2603:6000:dbf0:9220:952c:e829:a445:e30c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 6a1803df08f44-6e65d785ce5sm55853986d6.41.2025.02.17.12.58.35 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:58:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:58:33 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: MGs , "Spridgets@autox.team.net" From: David Woerpel Subject: [Mgs] Bleeders Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net IMKgSGkgTGlzdCwKCkJlZW4gcXVpZXQgc28gSSB0aG91Z2h0IEknZCBtYWtlIGFuIGlucXVpcnku wqAgV2hlcmUgY2FuIG9uZSBmaW5kIHdoZWVsIApjeWxpbmRlciBicmFrZSBibGVlZGVycyB0aGF0 IGFyZSA3LzE2IiBhY3Jvc3MgdGhlIGZsYXRzLsKgIEFsbCBJIGNhbiBmaW5kIAp0YWtlIGEgMTBt bSB3cmVuY2ggZnJvbSB0aGUgdXN1YWwgc3VzcGVjdHMuwqAgV291bGQgbGlrZSB0byBrZWVwIHRo ZSBjYXIgCm5vbi1tZXRyaWMuCkkgYXBvbG9naXplIGlmIHlvdSBnb3QgdGhpcyB0d2ljZS4KCiBG cm9tIHRoZSBmcm96ZW4gVHVuZHJhLApEYXZlIFcKJzU5IDp7KQonNTkgTUdBIDE1MDAKCiJQYXkg SXQgRm9yd2FyZCIKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X18KCk1nc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldApEb25hdGU6IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cudGVhbS5uZXQvZG9uYXRl Lmh0bWwKU3VnZ2VzdGVkIGFubnVhbCBkb25hdGlvbiAgJDEyLjc1CgpBcmNoaXZlOiBodHRwOi8v d3d3LnRlYW0ubmV0L3BpcGVybWFpbC9tZ3MgaHR0cDovL2F1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0L2FyY2hpdmUK ClVuc3Vic2NyaWJlOiBodHRwOi8vYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQvbWFpbG1hbi9vcHRpb25zL21ncy9t aGFyY0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldAo= From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 17 15:57:23 2025 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBF8A014A for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:57:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (unknown [64.142.111.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F09A0A02; Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:45:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (c-67-164-6-247.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.164.6.247]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 51HMivmG020905 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:44:57 -0800 t=1739832299; bh=biLgFFRAPCXGLK2y2GrgbvJkuRF937SaJFOpVrbwsj0=; h=From:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=L4THacEiTPu0F5qSdVHmB0ZsMI9v3VCAAjMJkn+U06JUvuUtT2SlcvfHVfinibgPs wtbcQfOUeIklDtuaM3JTkLL82J/3YWE3WolkfGsYaYW/HBjQGHXpbT8zYsxTt4rcEe myOgW+j2X//PX2IV714yzbLGNfR03XvoszDWqEvbmnAYXO8Gb8ohzF1SMiuHvST9Xj pTSrshmauE6SW2Bc0HE3YSZMZDvX7A6UhfcVwx1YR/a/NUMFZ/DD0lmpu6ha81ZBBM skU1a5kyzCjHApgHVeovZZxmPoSj4k2AtTDYGzXZHrZ3yxPKpQbtNxpBkqnAUsLgVJ EgGK+8hw13wWw== From: Max Heim Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:44:47 -0800 To: David Woerpel References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Bleeders Cc: "Spridgets@autox.team.net" , MGs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8344200049432506130== boundary="Apple-Mail=_27EF1CB1-B724-4F70-9A7C-B2BDF88F5045" --Apple-Mail=_27EF1CB1-B724-4F70-9A7C-B2BDF88F5045 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 You=E2=80=99re lucky =E2=80=94 I was finding ones with a 7mm flat. Most = wrench sets don=E2=80=99t even HAVE a 7mm, and it=E2=80=99s so dinky = it=E2=80=99s guaranteed to round off the flats. So I=E2=80=99m = interested din this, too. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Feb 17, 2025, at 12:58=E2=80=AFPM, David Woerpel = wrote: >=20 > Hi List, >=20 > Been quiet so I thought I'd make an inquiry. Where can one find wheel = cylinder brake bleeders that are 7/16" across the flats. All I can find = take a 10mm wrench from the usual suspects. Would like to keep the car = non-metric. > I apologize if you got this twice. >=20 > =46rom the frozen Tundra, > Dave W > '59 :{) > '59 MGA 1500 >=20 > "Pay It Forward" > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net >=20 --Apple-Mail=_27EF1CB1-B724-4F70-9A7C-B2BDF88F5045 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 You=E2=80=99re = lucky =E2=80=94 I was finding ones with a 7mm flat. Most wrench sets = don=E2=80=99t even HAVE a 7mm, and it=E2=80=99s so dinky it=E2=80=99s = guaranteed to round off the flats. So I=E2=80=99m interested din this, = too.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB


On Feb 17, 2025, at 12:58=E2=80=AF= PM, David Woerpel <dtwoerpel@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hi List,

Been = quiet so I thought I'd make an inquiry.  Where can one find wheel = cylinder brake bleeders that are 7/16" across the flats.  All I can = find take a 10mm wrench from the usual suspects.  Would like to = keep the car non-metric.
I apologize if you got this = twice.

=46rom the frozen Tundra,
Dave W
'59 :{)
'59 MGA = 1500

"Pay It = Forward"
_______________________________________________

Mgs@aut= ox.team.net
Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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Archive: = http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive

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Change ain't for this old guy!  ;-)
Dave



On 2/17/2025 4:44 PM, Max Heim wrote:
You’re lucky — I was finding ones with a 7mm flat. Most wrench sets don’t even HAVE a 7mm, and it’s so dinky it’s guaranteed to round off the flats. So I’m interested din this, too.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB


On Feb 17, 2025, at 12:58 PM, David Woerpel <dtwoerpel@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hi List,

Been quiet so I thought I'd make an inquiry.  Where can one find wheel cylinder brake bleeders that are 7/16" across the flats.  All I can find take a 10mm wrench from the usual suspects.  Would like to keep the car non-metric.
I apologize if you got this twice.

From the frozen Tundra,
Dave W
'59 :{)
'59 MGA 1500

"Pay It Forward"
_______________________________________________

Mgs@autox.team.net
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[82.13.175.216]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-43987088ecbsm43453705e9.31.2025.02.18.00.33.14 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Feb 2025 00:33:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:33:12 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <08C1D626-E4DD-483E-8312-C48C94E9EB16@sonic.net> Content-Language: en-GB From: Paul Hunt Subject: Re: [Mgs] Bleeders Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8919355888298173242== boundary="------------09w1HnRhWfF20BlCulJkwK4r" Content-Language: en-GB This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------09w1HnRhWfF20BlCulJkwK4r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Don't apologise, I didn't even get it once - not unknown to get just the responses. I've seen it writ that whilst the originals were 1/4" (calipers are bigger) replacement wheel cylinders are often metric at 7mm. However I have replaced them more than once on both cars and they are still 1/4", 7mm are sloppy and 7/16" are bigger still.  I've had a cranked double-ended ring spanner for nearly 60 years, it's a bit sloppy from having used it on seized bleeders so I slacken them without opening with a 1/4" socket, then put the spanner on, then the bleed tube using the spanner just for final opening. Reversing when done. Googling brings up plenty of both 7mm and 1/4" combination and double ring spanners for me. PaulH. On 17/02/2025 22:44, Max Heim wrote: > You’re lucky — I was finding ones with a 7mm flat. Most wrench sets > don’t even HAVE a 7mm, and it’s so dinky it’s guaranteed to round off > the flats. So I’m interested din this, too. > > -- > Max Heim > '66 MGB > > >> On Feb 17, 2025, at 12:58 PM, David Woerpel wrote: >> >>  Hi List, >> >> Been quiet so I thought I'd make an inquiry.  Where can one find >> wheel cylinder brake bleeders that are 7/16" across the flats.  All I >> can find take a 10mm wrench from the usual suspects.  Would like to >> keep the car non-metric. >> I apologize if you got this twice. >> >> From the frozen Tundra, >> Dave W >> '59 :{) >> '59 MGA 1500 > --------------09w1HnRhWfF20BlCulJkwK4r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Don't apologise, I didn't even get it once - not unknown to get just the responses.

I've seen it writ that whilst the originals were 1/4" (calipers are bigger) replacement wheel cylinders are often metric at 7mm.  However I have replaced them more than once on both cars and they are still 1/4", 7mm are sloppy and 7/16" are bigger still.  I've had a cranked double-ended ring spanner for nearly 60 years, it's a bit sloppy from having used it on seized bleeders so I slacken them without opening with a 1/4" socket, then put the spanner on, then the bleed tube using the spanner just for final opening.  Reversing when done.

Googling brings up plenty of both 7mm and 1/4" combination and double ring spanners for me.

PaulH.


On 17/02/2025 22:44, Max Heim wrote:
You’re lucky — I was finding ones with a 7mm flat. Most wrench sets don’t even HAVE a 7mm, and it’s so dinky it’s guaranteed to round off the flats. So I’m interested din this, too.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB


On Feb 17, 2025, at 12:58 PM, David Woerpel <dtwoerpel@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hi List,

Been quiet so I thought I'd make an inquiry.  Where can one find wheel cylinder brake bleeders that are 7/16" across the flats.  All I can find take a 10mm wrench from the usual suspects.  Would like to keep the car non-metric.
I apologize if you got this twice.

From the frozen Tundra,
Dave W
'59 :{)
'59 MGA 1500

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