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On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 a= t 8:15=E2=80=AFPM Robert J. Guinness <guinness@stclegal.com> wrote:

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Here is a link to the commercial;

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--00000000000066faa2064607f3ed-- --===============5317029527079600119== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5317029527079600119==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 16 10:11:34 2025 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C16A131B for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2025 10:11:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (unknown [64.142.111.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE65A1230 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2025 09:45:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (c-24-23-145-108.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.23.145.108]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 5BGGjTeZ005452 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2025 08:45:29 -0800 t=1765903531; bh=dY7Qi+h8p7iAmdErngbrl5kHGRjvSv7I/AN7NiEWinY=; h=From:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:To:Message-Id:From:Subject; b=IgpBJC0LhR1iXcasKrkRyXajXY1CDA1eM/RlyEdT/d4k++3QFePNf+F3O/84moXTH SLKv2DLB8Vrgrb1ygs1I67YTy+qPsW4y9xel4v2wErRKeXo2hagkpc1AFO5v0PPOLf x5DwKD8AiN/VnpfiEOIbMCgwphR7ah6swlVgQEK4n+useshxBP0jdy41+aLtmsfADu akSM2SqN9aNjGwSA3S/myKuLC8ZdRcFPwmMn43v9bv6ZI+2oSiCVT84KGdNeKkuRfR u1aKwY1ftxEkBIVirBAfUuutcVZ8pdsI6hvKxL6LF1iRMxWIiSu5/OChKFfakPwvaX IBgWsHo7aiX3A== From: Max Heim Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2025 08:45:19 -0800 References:

To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 220, Issue 1 Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6454753216804318072== boundary="Apple-Mail=_5D4CDED5-7757-45F2-8233-C9D43FDED88E" --Apple-Mail=_5D4CDED5-7757-45F2-8233-C9D43FDED88E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 OMG=E2=80=A6 thanks for the link. Such a strange =E2=80=9Cnostalgia" = trip=E2=80=A6 I don't think we even had a TV back then, and I would have = been only 5. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Dec 15, 2025, at 5:50=E2=80=AFPM, Dan DiBiase = wrote: >=20 > Not creepy at all=E2=80=A6. >=20 > Dan D > =E2=80=9876B > Central NJ USA >=20 > On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 8:15=E2=80=AFPM Robert J. Guinness = >> Here is a link to the commercial; >>=20 >> https://www.facebook.com/RubyLaneDolls/videos/670459136457891/ >>=20 >> On 12/15/2025 1:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net = >>> Send Mgs mailing list submissions to >>>=20 >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>=20 >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>=20 >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Mgs digest..." >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Today's Topics: >>>=20 >>> 1. Have you ever seen one of these? (Max Heim) >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mgs mailing list >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >> -- >> Robert Guinness >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive >>=20 >> Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net --Apple-Mail=_5D4CDED5-7757-45F2-8233-C9D43FDED88E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 OMG=E2=80=A6 = thanks for the link. Such a strange =E2=80=9Cnostalgia" trip=E2=80=A6 I = don't think we even had a TV back then, and I would have been only = 5.

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On Dec 15, 2025, at 5:50=E2=80=AFP= M, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote:
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Here is a link to the commercial;
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I am struggling to insert the screw that holds the capacitor down in the distributor. There is a black wire hanging that I believe also needs to be fastened down with the same screw. I am replacing the capacitor because of poor running. The screw in my distributor has a cross-head pattern. Barney shows this screw and the one that holds down the contact points as the same screw type (2BA), but Moss shows only one screw and it has a slotted head. It is also considerably longer than the screw I am dealing with (see photos in https://photos.app.goo.gl/iNTC9auUAdve94G1A ). The screw that I have looks similar to the one in this video: https://youtu.be/9x51poyZLa8?t=1271 The screw that I have doesn't have a good head -- the cross is a bit mangled. Has anyone got any suggestions on: 1. Is this the correct screw? 2. Is it correct that the screw holds down both the black wire and the capacitor? 3. Are there any tricks to getting the screw into place, without removing the distributor? Many thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 27 23:24:11 2025 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CF6A0132 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2025 23:24:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (unknown [64.142.111.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DFCA09F4 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2025 23:21:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (c-24-23-145-108.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.23.145.108]) (authenticated bits=0) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 5BS6LHhj020039 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 27 Dec 2025 22:21:18 -0800 t=1766902879; bh=7B6noAlh24nrZH2rGQpu96VqPf1LvDyzhooUoKpHyEk=; 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Sun, 28 Dec 2025 04:19:27 -0800 (PST) References: <2EC0E4E6-0349-4370-B7B5-9EB6052B0941@sonic.net> From: Richard Lindsay Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2025 06:18:27 -0600 To: Max Heim Subject: Re: [Mgs] Distributor woes Cc: MGS Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6018066904693887369== --0000000000004bc67a06470223cc Excellent advice - being one who once dropped a screw into that interdimensional void you reference! Good time to clean, check, and lubricate everything too. Especially check for bushing wear and worn pivots in the centrifugal advance. When worn oval, those holes bugger slow idle stability. Two cents please. Rick - previous MG owner --0000000000004bc67a06470223cc Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Excellent advice - being one who once dropped a screw int= o that=C2=A0interdimensional void you reference! Good time to clean, check,= and lubricate everything too. Especially check for bushing wear and worn p= ivots in the centrifugal advance. When worn oval, those holes bugger slow i= dle stability.

Two cents pleas= e.=C2=A0

Rick - previous= MG owner

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Screw, for points, 2BA X 3/8" | Moss Motors Question #2 No, the black wire is the feed to the coil and needs to be under the nut on the points spring. It should contact the spring but not the stud. Ensure that you have a good insulator on that post/stud to separate the spring from the stud. The screw retaining the condenser provides the ground to the condenser. Any good mechanical connection there would suffice, but I do not know which distributor you have. Question #3 If you use steel screws you can use a magnetic screwdriver to hold it while you position it to screw it in. You also can use masking tape to cover the openings if you are afraid of dropping the screw into a crevice. On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 3:02=E2=80=AFPM Simon Matthews wrote: > I have already asked on a forum, but I thought that I would reach out > on the mailing list also. > > I am struggling to insert the screw that holds the capacitor down in > the distributor. There is a black wire hanging that I believe also > needs to be fastened down with the same screw. I am replacing the > capacitor because of poor running. > > The screw in my distributor has a cross-head pattern. Barney shows > this screw and the one that holds down the contact points as the same > screw type (2BA), but Moss shows only one screw and it has a slotted > head. It is also considerably longer than the screw I am dealing with > (see photos in > https://photos.app.goo.gl/iNTC9auUAdve94G1A ). The screw that I have > looks similar to the one in this video: > https://youtu.be/9x51poyZLa8?t=3D1271 > > The screw that I have doesn't have a good head -- the cross is a bit > mangled. Has anyone got any suggestions on: > 1. Is this the correct screw? > 2. Is it correct that the screw holds down both the black wire and the > capacitor? > 3. Are there any tricks to getting the screw into place, without > removing the distributor? > > Many thanks, > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dirtbeard@gmail.co= m > --000000000000cee0960647029288 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Simon,

Question #1:

I am not certain whi= ch model distributor=C2=A0you have, but is this the screw you are=C2=A0refe= rring to?

Screw, for= points, 2BA X 3/8" | Moss Motors

Question #2

No, the black wire is the feed to the coil and needs to be u= nder the nut on the points spring. It should=C2=A0contact the spring but no= t the stud. Ensure that you have a good insulator on that post/stud to sepa= rate=C2=A0the spring from the stud.

The screw retaining the condenser provides the ground to the con= denser. Any good mechanical connection there would suffice, but I do not kn= ow which distributor you have.

Question #3

If you use steel screws you can use a magnetic screwdriver to hold it wh= ile you position it to screw it in. You also can use masking tape to cover = the openings if you are afraid of dropping the screw=C2=A0into a crevice.

On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 3:02=E2=80=AFPM Simon Mat= thews <simon.d.matthews@gm= ail.com> wrote:

I have already asked on a forum, but I thought that I would reach ou= t
on the mailing list also.

I am struggling to insert the screw that holds the capacitor down in
the distributor. There is a black wire hanging that I believe also
needs to be fastened down with the same screw. I am replacing the
capacitor because of poor running.

The screw in my distributor has a cross-head pattern. Barney shows
this screw and the one that holds down the contact points as the same
screw type (2BA), but Moss shows only one screw and it has a slotted
head. It is also considerably longer than the screw I am dealing with
(see photos in
https://photos.app.goo.gl/iNTC9auUAdve94G1A ). The sc= rew that I have
looks similar to the one in this video:
https://youtu.be/9x51poyZLa8?t=3D1271

The screw that I have doesn't have a good head -- the cross is a bit mangled. Has anyone got any suggestions on:
1. Is this the correct screw?
2. Is it correct that the screw holds down both the black wire and the
capacitor?
3. Are there any tricks to getting the screw into place, without
removing the distributor?

Many thanks,
Simon
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Wel= l, one definitely could remove the distributor everytime the points are rep= laced, but that honestly seems like overkill=C2=A0to me.

I simply use painters tape over the opening= s and a magnetic screwdriver. Maybe I am living dangerously, but I have cha= nged many sets of points over the last 50 years and never needed to remove = the distributor to do so.

On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 a= t 4:22=E2=80=AFAM Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay@gmail.com> wrote:

Excellent advice - being= one who once dropped a screw into that=C2=A0interdimensional void you refe= rence! Good time to clean, check, and lubricate everything too. Especially = check for bushing wear and worn pivots in the centrifugal advance. When wor= n oval, those holes bugger slow idle stability.

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Two cents please.=C2=A0

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[82.13.175.216]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-47be3bbe1c8sm215816215e9.11.2025.12.28.06.32.21 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Dec 2025 06:32:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2025 14:32:22 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: mgs@autox.team.net References: Content-Language: en-GB From: Paul Hunt Subject: Re: [Mgs] Distributor woes Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7556748431438157034== boundary="------------PLb2rYZpV9ws7WtEYUBXbgyb" Content-Language: en-GB This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------PLb2rYZpV9ws7WtEYUBXbgyb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On a 25D4 the coil wire from the harness is white with a black stripe and is external to the distributor and connects to a spade terminal on the outside of the distributor. Internally there is a brown cloth-covered tinsel strand wire from the spade that sits under an insulator and nut on the points. It needs to be electrically isolated from both nut and stud. Whilst on the 45D4 it is black, is the coil wire and does pass through the distributor body, it is factory-attached to the and is the live side not the earth. It has a tab that slides under a folded over section of the points spring, there is no nut, just an insulator that sits between the spring and a support. A short length of wire is external ending in male spade connector connecting to the white/black harness wire. Originally the 25D4 had an earth wire spot-welded and riveted to the points plate, 45D4 used a through-hole terminal under the condenser screw so that screw needs to be long enough to hold both securely. But make sure neither points nor condenser screw are too long or they can foul the weights and cause running problems. Like the 25D4 internal coil connection the earth wire was originally a very flexible brown cloth insulated tinsel-stranded wire going to one of the screws securing the fixed part of the points plate to the distributor body. Not generally available, if they (both coil and earth wires) fail standard wire probably won't last very long as the points plate is continually twisting back and fore as the throttle is opened and closed - if you have vacuum advance. Unless you are replacing the screw that came out make sure it will fit before putting the condenser in position. On 28/12/2025 12:50, Douglas Shook wrote: > > Question #2 > No, the black wire is the feed to the coil and needs to be under the > nut on the points spring. It should contact the spring but not the > stud. Ensure that you have a good insulator on that post/stud to > separate the spring from the stud. > --------------PLb2rYZpV9ws7WtEYUBXbgyb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On a 25D4 the coil wire from the harness is white with a black stripe and is external to the distributor and connects to a spade terminal on the outside of the distributor. Internally there is a brown cloth-covered tinsel strand wire from the spade that sits under an insulator and nut on the points. It needs to be electrically isolated from both nut and stud.

Whilst on the 45D4 it is black, is the coil wire and does pass through the distributor body, it is factory-attached to the and is the live side not the earth. It has a tab that slides under a folded over section of the points spring, there is no nut, just an insulator that sits between the spring and a support. A short length of wire is external ending in male spade connector connecting to the white/black harness wire.

Originally the 25D4 had an earth wire spot-welded and riveted to the points plate, 45D4 used a through-hole terminal under the condenser screw so that screw needs to be long enough to hold both securely. But make sure neither points nor condenser screw are too long or they can foul the weights and cause running problems. Like the 25D4 internal coil connection the earth wire was originally a very flexible brown cloth insulated tinsel-stranded wire going to one of the screws securing the fixed part of the points plate to the distributor body. Not generally available, if they (both coil and earth wires) fail standard wire probably won't last very long as the points plate is continually twisting back and fore as the throttle is opened and closed - if you have vacuum advance.

Unless you are replacing the screw that came out make sure it will fit before putting the condenser in position.

On 28/12/2025 12:50, Douglas Shook wrote:

Question #2

No, the black wire is the feed to the coil and needs to be under the nut on the points spring. It should contact the spring but not the stud. Ensure that you have a good insulator on that post/stud to separate the spring from the stud.

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From: Douglas Shook Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2025 07:00:48 -0800 To: Paul Hunt Subject: Re: [Mgs] Distributor woes Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8487294876052763747== --000000000000f818bd064704640f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, Paul is right. I did not enlarge the photo until now and misread the wiring. On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 6:35=E2=80=AFAM Paul Hunt w= rote: > On a 25D4 the coil wire from the harness is white with a black stripe and > is external to the distributor and connects to a spade terminal on the > outside of the distributor. Internally there is a brown cloth-covered > tinsel strand wire from the spade that sits under an insulator and nut on > the points. It needs to be electrically isolated from both nut and stud. > > Whilst on the 45D4 it is black, is the coil wire and does pass through th= e > distributor body, it is factory-attached to the and is the live side not > the earth. It has a tab that slides under a folded over section of the > points spring, there is no nut, just an insulator that sits between the > spring and a support. A short length of wire is external ending in male > spade connector connecting to the white/black harness wire. > > Originally the 25D4 had an earth wire spot-welded and riveted to the > points plate, 45D4 used a through-hole terminal under the condenser screw > so that screw needs to be long enough to hold both securely. But make su= re > neither points nor condenser screw are too long or they can foul the > weights and cause running problems. Like the 25D4 internal coil connecti= on > the earth wire was originally a very flexible brown cloth insulated > tinsel-stranded wire going to one of the screws securing the fixed part o= f > the points plate to the distributor body. Not generally available, if th= ey > (both coil and earth wires) fail standard wire probably won't last very > long as the points plate is continually twisting back and fore as the > throttle is opened and closed - if you have vacuum advance. > > Unless you are replacing the screw that came out make sure it will fit > before putting the condenser in position. > On 28/12/2025 12:50, Douglas Shook wrote: > > > Question #2 > No, the black wire is the feed to the coil and needs to be under the nut > on the points spring. It should contact the spring but not the stud. Ensu= re > that you have a good insulator on that post/stud to separate the spring > from the stud. > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dirtbeard@gmail.co= m > --000000000000f818bd064704640f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes= , Paul is right. I did not enlarge the photo until now and misread the wiri= ng.

On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 6:35=E2=80=AFAM Paul= Hunt <paulbhunt73@gmail.com> wrote:

= =20 =20 =20

On a 25D4 the coil wire from the harness is white with a black stripe and is external to the distributor and connects to a spade terminal on the outside of the distributor.=C2=A0 Internally there is= a brown cloth-covered tinsel strand wire from the spade that sits under an insulator and nut on the points.=C2=A0 It needs to be electrically isolated from both nut and stud.=C2=A0

Whilst on the 45D4 it is black, is the coil wire and does pass through the distributor body, it is factory-attached to the and is the live side not the earth.=C2=A0 It has a tab that slides under a folded over section of the points spring, there is no nut, just an insulator that sits between the spring and a support.=C2=A0 A short length of wire is external ending in=C2=A0 male spade connector connecting to the white/black harness wire.

Originally the 25D4 had an earth wire spot-welded and riveted to the points plate, 45D4 used a through-hole terminal under the condenser screw so that screw needs to be long enough to hold both securely.=C2=A0 But make sure neither points nor condenser screw are too long or they can foul the weights and cause running problems.=C2= =A0 Like the 25D4 internal coil connection the earth wire was originally a very flexible brown cloth insulated tinsel-stranded wire going to one of the screws securing the fixed part of the points plate to the distributor body.=C2=A0 Not generally available, = if they (both coil and earth wires) fail standard wire probably won'= t last very long as the points plate is continually twisting back and fore as the throttle is opened and closed - if you have vacuum advance.

Unless you are replacing the screw that came out make sure it will fit before putting the condenser in position.

On 28/12/2025 12:50, Douglas Shook wrote:

=20

Question #2<= /div>
No, the blac= k wire is the feed to the coil and needs to be under the nut on the points spring. It should=C2=A0contact the spring but not the stud. Ensure that you have a good insulator on that post/stud to separate=C2=A0the spring from the stud.

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