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Subject: Re: Painting my 77 Midget
  30 Dec 2003 19:52:47 -0500

Hmmm....

Haven't run a spare tire for many years....
hadn't thought of that.

OK...back to Brads footwell suggestion! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)





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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 07:49:40 EST
Subject: Re: spridget rotisserie
To: shelden3@pldi.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 12/31/03 11:34:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
shelden3@pldi.net writes:


> Hey does anyone have a link to a page that shows a spridget rotisserie?  I
> can prob figure it out but why reinvent the wheel.  I have one engine stand
> now, can get a second real easy.  I'd like to use that as I could roll it in
> and out of the shop/garage.  I've seen some made of plywood as well.  Any
> info would help.

Yeah, Charlie.  On Gerard's site   <A HREF="http://www.gerardsgarage.com/FS_Garage.htm">Garage</A>  , go to Tech Tips, then to 
Rollover Frame.  This is a set of drawings I made up of the late Dr. Roy Gibbon's 
design for a rollover frame for a Spridget that works extremely well, is easy and 
inexpensive to build, and which gives you mobility.  While you are there, 
peruse Gerard's website--it is both fascinating and informative.  He has done a 
great job with it.

--David C.





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From SDOliner at aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 08:59:39 EST
Subject: powder caoting brake drums??
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Good day to run the oven in the garage.
Just don't like the way those rusty brake drums look behind my powder coated 
Western wheels. So what will happen if I powder coat the drums the same color 
as the spokes? I know I can use engine paint, but am hooked on powder.

The powder flows in the oven at 400 degrees. Do drums get this hot? Will this 
cuase heat build up in the brakes?


David Oliner





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From Dave Grandeffo <davegran at execpc.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Leaf Spring Magic

Greetings All,
As I've been lurking on the list, looking for tidbits that will help in
my Lotus Eleven Replica project, I've noticed several dramas from time
to time connected with Spridget leaf springs... people willing to go to
almost any lengths to modify/replace/reengineer their rear suspensions.
While it's true that the leaf spring is pretty old technology, they can
be massaged to give results almost as good as coil springs. 

Back in the early days of racing, people found that the internal
friction of a leaf spring (and thus the way it acted on the suspension)
varied according to how dirty, wet, greasy, etc. the springs were. Some
smart person figured out that if you do the following:

1) Disasssemble the springs into their separate leaves.
2) Wire brush all the rust, dirt, road apple residue, etc. off the
leaves until they are very clean.
3) Apply a liberal coating of grease to all surfaces.
4) Reassemble the springs.
5) And this is important: Wrap a layer or two of the very best
electrical tape you can find around the whole assembly (think, "Mummy").
In the very old days, they used to make a leather boot that fit around
the spring.
6) Install on your vehicle and marvel at how civilized and compliant
your suspension has become!

Of course, if your shocks are marginal, they won't be assisted by as
much internal damping of the spring, and you'll probably have to
replace/upgrade them.

I did this on a Fiat Abarth 750 Zagato Double Bubble Coupe (the car is
much smaller than the name...) with a transverse front leaf spring and
it absolutely transformed the handling!
-- 
Dave Grandeffo
http://kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin, USA





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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:32:51 -0500 (EST)
To: davegran@execpc.com (Dave Grandeffo)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Leaf Spring Magic
  Jan 2004 08:57:30 -0600

Hi, Dave...

Yep. There is a concern that still makes
leather gaitors over in the UK. They
advertise in Classic & Sports Cars, etc.

When the time comes to replace bushes
or whatever back there, the "massage"
will begin! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)





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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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Subject: Re: powder caoting brake drums??
References: <b2.26af50e2.2d2581cb@aol.com>

SDOliner@aol.com wrote:

> The powder flows in the oven at 400 degrees. Do drums get this hot? Will this 
> cuase heat build up in the brakes?

I have a couple sets of powdercoated brums on 2 different Sprites.
I never thought about the heat, they still look and work OK and they 
have'nt cracked.
I know drums and rotors can take much higher temps. 400* doesn't turn 
them cherry red like riding around with the hand brake on.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/





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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:44:42 -0500 (EST)
To: SDOliner@aol.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: powder caoting brake drums??

Good question, Dave.

The head is cast iron and warps beyond
220 or so, right? Of course, that's all torqued down. Hmmmmm! What would
happen to the "ovality" of a cast iron brake
drum baked at 400F for 20 minutes or so?

I usually wire brush them and paint them
with black Hammerite (gloss) when RR time comes for the rear brake
shoes.

Matter of fact, unless they're truly rusty
no one but you and I will really notice. A
good coat of Rustoleum semi-gloss would
probably do as well.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)





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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Dave Grandeffo" <davegran@execpc.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <3FF4355A.B2@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Leaf Spring Magic
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:00:24 -0600

Dave,
Just what I needed, another task that should be added to my list of winter
projects!
What about the spring clips and bolts? I can almost guarantee that I will
need to replace some of these. Moss don't list them; I have heard rumors of
unobtainium in the size required by Spridgets; is there a good place to get
these?
David Lieb





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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>, SDOliner@aol.com,
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: powder caoting brake drums??
References: <29270-3FF4406A-4665@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net>
  FILETIME=[8F113740:01C3D07F]

If you run stock wheels, like Nigel on the midgetsprite list, no one will notice
at all...........

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

>
> Matter of fact, unless they're truly rusty
> no one but you and I will really notice. A
> good coat of Rustoleum semi-gloss would
> probably do as well.





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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:06:47 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: SDOliner@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: powder caoting brake drums??
  2004 09:54:38 -0600

"If you run stock wheels"

This is true! You know, I was absolutely
amazed at the difference in pep on my
BE when I changed the stock wheels over
to my alum. Western's. Reduction in unsprung weight really does pay
noticeable dividends, the engine at the time being a 10cc. 

It was like taking off
a pair of boots and changing into a pair of sneakers.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)





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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:10:33 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: SDOliner@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: powder caoting brake drums??
  Jan 2004 10:41:04 -0500

Frank to the rescue! Ah...there we go.

That answers that, SDO! Happy powder
coating and good morning Mr. C! It's
gonna be a good afternoon for a little
BE cruisin' up here in the NE this afternoon, methinks, when visiting 
friends for "boat drinks".




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)





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From "MLD" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Steel clutch/brake line
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:10:15 -0500

The addition of steel lines in replacement of the rubber would be a great
touch to the Mutant.  Question is the system is from a Fiat and matching them
up.

Any Fiat experts out there?

Slamed
79 Mutant Midget
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Didn't someone say they were looking for a Bugeye dash the other day?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2450673811&category=10076

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite





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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>, Dave Grandeffo <davegran@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Leaf Spring Magic

Greetings All,
As I've been lurking on the list, looking for tidbits that will help in
my Lotus Eleven Replica project, I've noticed several dramas from time
to time connected with Spridget leaf springs... people willing to go to
almost any lengths to modify/replace/reengineer their rear suspensions.
While it's true that the leaf spring is pretty old technology, they can
be massaged to give results almost as good as coil springs. 

Back in the early days of racing, people found that the internal
friction of a leaf spring (and thus the way it acted on the suspension)
varied according to how dirty, wet, greasy, etc. the springs were. Some
smart person figured out that if you do the following:

1) Disasssemble the springs into their separate leaves.
2) Wire brush all the rust, dirt, road apple residue, etc. off the
leaves until they are very clean.
3) Apply a liberal coating of grease to all surfaces.
4) Reassemble the springs.
5) And this is important: Wrap a layer or two of the very best
electrical tape you can find around the whole assembly (think, "Mummy").
In the very old days, they used to make a leather boot that fit around
the spring.
6) Install on your vehicle and marvel at how civilized and compliant
your suspension has become!

Of course, if your shocks are marginal, they won't be assisted by as
much internal damping of the spring, and you'll probably have to
replace/upgrade them.

I did this on a Fiat Abarth 750 Zagato Double Bubble Coupe (the car is
much smaller than the name...) with a transverse front leaf spring and
it absolutely transformed the handling!
-- 
Dave Grandeffo
http://kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin, USA

 Thanks for the tip, however as David pointed out the HWD isnt
 so easy to come by or is it ?
 My plans are to use, what they call stove black, it's a sorta
 black wax that comes in a can. Hunters and Trapers use it
 to coat snar traps to prevent rust and make them easy to set.
 They boil the wax and use different ways to apply.
 My idea is use an old steel rain gutter, fill with boiling wax
 and dip the springs.
 Well if nothing else they will look good?

 Larry Rex

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To: spridgets@autox.team.net
From "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Subject: Name that fastener . . .

Greetings to all:

In a purchase of all things Spridget, I acquired a 3 lb coffee can of 
Spridget fasteners. I sorted them out and can recognize most of the 
fasteners and little bits. One, however, puzzles me. It may be that the 
fastener is something used on newer Spridgets while I am only familiar with 
Sprite MKIII's.

To describe this fastener, think of a lawn mower axle bolt. This item is 
1-3/4" overall in length. The head is 3/4" in diameter, 1/4" thick and 
round. The top of the fastener has a 1/4" hex hole so you tighten this guy 
with an allen wrench. Below the head is a smooth shank 1/2" in diameter and 
7/8" long. Finally the rest is threaded - 3/8" course. The coffee can 
contained 16 of these things. I think they each have an accompanying washer 
that is about 3/16" thick and slides over the 1/2" shank. They are cad 
plated and fairly clean so I think they may be an interior part or at least 
they weren't exposed to grease and oil nor to elements causing rust.

On the other hand they could have nothing to do with Spridgets. If that's 
the case - 10 year penalty for putting stray fasteners in the Spridget can!

Is this a Spridget part or not?

(I can name that fastener in _____________.)

Tim





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From Kevin Valentine <kevin at valentinephoto.net>
Subject: Fwd: Macy's Email address
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 16:50:17 -0500

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kevin Valentine <kevin@valentinephoto.net>
> Date: December 31, 2003 12:30:21 AM EST
> To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Macy's Email address
>
> Sorry to hit the list with this.....
>
> Hey Larry,
>
> I need your email address....
>
> Kevin





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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "larryrex" <larryrex@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   "Dave Grandeffo" <davegran@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Leaf Spring Magic
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 16:51:30 -0500

why bother with dirt collecting goo?   why not just cut strips of nylon
material  and fully line the springs between each leaf like the spring shops
do?    all this goo requires frequent maintance and attracts dirt wich is
abrasive.    leather gators or tape wrapped or spring steel wrapped?  who
cares?  it's all model A technology.    go with a modern anti friction
material !   besides do you know how long it takes for the leaves of a
spring under pressure to dispense the lubricant at the main contact points?
not very long.   for the amount of effort, vs. the length of sucess it's
hardly worth it.   might as well spray white grease on your springs before
each drive.   ;)
you need to work on numerous old cars and see the effects of abrasive grit
embedded in the lubricants applied to the springs in order to wonder what
the people were thinking.   it does help squeaky springs!   but only for so
long!  also if you tape wrap them remember this!  the decreasing number of
leavbes i na sporing pack causes a wedge effect.  as time goes on the tape
tries to walk off the thicker center towards the thinner ends and to help
this along the grease tries to dissolve the adhesive on the tape.    not a
very pretty sight.   and horribly annoying after all the effort put forth
for a nice wrap job.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From larryrex <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>; Dave Grandeffo
<davegran@execpc.com>
Date: Thursday, January 01, 2004 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Leaf Spring Magic


>Greetings All,
>As I've been lurking on the list, looking for tidbits that will help in
>my Lotus Eleven Replica project, I've noticed several dramas from time
>to time connected with Spridget leaf springs... people willing to go to
>almost any lengths to modify/replace/reengineer their rear suspensions.
>While it's true that the leaf spring is pretty old technology, they can
>be massaged to give results almost as good as coil springs.
>
>Back in the early days of racing, people found that the internal
>friction of a leaf spring (and thus the way it acted on the suspension)
>varied according to how dirty, wet, greasy, etc. the springs were. Some
>smart person figured out that if you do the following:
>
>1) Disasssemble the springs into their separate leaves.
>2) Wire brush all the rust, dirt, road apple residue, etc. off the
>leaves until they are very clean.
>3) Apply a liberal coating of grease to all surfaces.
>4) Reassemble the springs.
>5) And this is important: Wrap a layer or two of the very best
>electrical tape you can find around the whole assembly (think, "Mummy").
>In the very old days, they used to make a leather boot that fit around
>the spring.
>6) Install on your vehicle and marvel at how civilized and compliant
>your suspension has become!
>
>Of course, if your shocks are marginal, they won't be assisted by as
>much internal damping of the spring, and you'll probably have to
>replace/upgrade them.
>
>I did this on a Fiat Abarth 750 Zagato Double Bubble Coupe (the car is
>much smaller than the name...) with a transverse front leaf spring and
>it absolutely transformed the handling!
>--
>Dave Grandeffo
>http://kettlemorainemotorsports.com
>Southern Wisconsin, USA
>
> Thanks for the tip, however as David pointed out the HWD isnt
> so easy to come by or is it ?
> My plans are to use, what they call stove black, it's a sorta
> black wax that comes in a can. Hunters and Trapers use it
> to coat snar traps to prevent rust and make them easy to set.
> They boil the wax and use different ways to apply.
> My idea is use an old steel rain gutter, fill with boiling wax
> and dip the springs.
> Well if nothing else they will look good?
>
> Larry Rex





From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan  1 14:53:35 2004
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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Name that fastener . . .
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:54:30 -0600
  with any abuse report

sounds like some sort of seat belt anchor,, but without seeing a pic.....
-----Original Message-----
From Timothy H. Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 3:29 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Name that fastener . . .


Greetings to all:

In a purchase of all things Spridget, I acquired a 3 lb coffee can of
Spridget fasteners. I sorted them out and can recognize most of the
fasteners and little bits. One, however, puzzles me. It may be that the
fastener is something used on newer Spridgets while I am only familiar with
Sprite MKIII's.

To describe this fastener, think of a lawn mower axle bolt. This item is
1-3/4" overall in length. The head is 3/4" in diameter, 1/4" thick and
round. The top of the fastener has a 1/4" hex hole so you tighten this guy
with an allen wrench. Below the head is a smooth shank 1/2" in diameter and
7/8" long. Finally the rest is threaded - 3/8" course. The coffee can
contained 16 of these things. I think they each have an accompanying washer
that is about 3/16" thick and slides over the 1/2" shank. They are cad
plated and fairly clean so I think they may be an interior part or at least
they weren't exposed to grease and oil nor to elements causing rust.

On the other hand they could have nothing to do with Spridgets. If that's
the case - 10 year penalty for putting stray fasteners in the Spridget can!

Is this a Spridget part or not?





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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 17:05:29 EST
Subject: Made in Italy?
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Sombody wrote to Rick Fisk:

Did I tell you Carol bought me an engine crane at Horrible Freight for a 
Christmas present.  Now I have no reason to not pull the motor and *again* rebuild 
the sucker for next summer's racing.  A neighbor said to her she should have 
gotten me velcro motor mounts.  I think I will put a "MADE IN ITALY" label on 
it and call it the "Frank Clarici Asian Assistance and Free Trade Olive 
Picker".  BTW: #2 son got me a little shop cart--"Made in China"-- and it cost less 
than two casters are priced at my local ACO hardware.  I could toss the cart 
and keep the wheels for something usful!

--JohnD





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From "Charlie Shelden" <shelden3 at pldi.net>
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Subject: leaf spring magic
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 16:43:22 -0600

My buddy runs Jeeps and the guys in his crowd swear by this graphite
impregnated paint that is sold at Tractor Supply.  It is called "slip plate"
graphite based paint.  I have a gallon, will prob. use it one day. Might be
something to look at.

Charlie





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MGTD2@aol.com wrote:

> Sombody wrote to Rick Fisk:
> 
> Did I tell you Carol bought me an engine crane at Horrible Freight for a 
> Christmas present. 

I too have the horrible freight chinese electric engine hoist.
It still works after 3 engine pulls but the cable already frayed.
I had to cut that part off and use some real cable clamps to fix it.
Just a warning to all you people who have this top quality device.
INSPECT THE CABLE DAILY.
the last engine was that Subaru engine, and I was there when my son 
lowered it to the dolly. The cable was not frayed. It was 3 days later 
when it just caught my attention. Only chinese stuff self destructs when 
not in use so keep an eye on it.


-- 
Frank Clarici
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Maybe, but probably not for a spridget. My 1500s had regular hex head
bolts, but 7/16 dia. I don't recall any allen head bolts on the car, and
I think I had almost every one off. (check that - the clutch cover bolts
are allen head, but way smaller than 3/8 x 1 3/4)
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Wm. Thompson
Sent: 1/1/2004 4:57:30 PM
To: thcollin@mtu.edu
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Name that fastener . . . 

sounds like some sort of seat belt anchor,, but without seeing a
pic..... 
-----Original Message----- 
From Timothy H. Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 3:29 PM 
To: spridgets@autox.team.net 
Subject: Name that fastener . . . 


Greetings to all: 

In a purchase of all things Spridget, I acquired a 3 lb coffee can of 
Spridget fasteners. I sorted them out and can recognize most of the 
fasteners and little bits. One, however, puzzles me. It may be that the 
fastener is something used on newer Spridgets while I am only familiar
with 
Sprite MKIII's. 

To describe this fastener, think of a lawn mower axle bolt. This item is
1-3/4" overall in length. The head is 3/4" in diameter, 1/4" thick and 
round. The top of the fastener has a 1/4" hex hole so you tighten this
guy 
with an allen wrench. Below the head is a smooth shank 1/2" in diameter
and 
7/8" long. Finally the rest is threaded - 3/8" course. The coffee can 
contained 16 of these things. I think they each have an accompanying
washer 
that is about 3/16" thick and slides over the 1/2" shank. They are cad 
plated and fairly clean so I think they may be an interior part or at
least 
they weren't exposed to grease and oil nor to elements causing rust. 

On the other hand they could have nothing to do with Spridgets. If
that's 
the case - 10 year penalty for putting stray fasteners in the Spridget
can! 

Is this a Spridget part or not? 





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References: <5.2.1.1.0.20040101161412.00bb0230@email.mtu.edu>

Timothy H. Collins wrote:

>  The top of the fastener has a 1/4" hex hole so you tighten this 
> guy with an allen wrench.


> (I can name that fastener in _____________.)

VW wheel studs?

I never saw an allen head bolt on a Spridget. And the only coarse thread 
bolts are on the tranny (1/4 x 20 hex head) the 2) 3/8 x 16 slave cyl 
bolts again, hex. 4) 5/16 x 18 steering rack clamp bolts, and 2 1/4 x 20 
steering column clamp bolts.


-- 
Frank Clarici
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References: <5.2.1.1.0.20040101161412.00bb0230@email.mtu.edu>
Subject: Re: Name that fastener . . .
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 18:47:38 -0600

<<Is this a Spridget part or not?>>

Ed says:

"Nope"

J.





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From Dave Grandeffo <davegran at execpc.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Leaf Spring Magic

Chuck wrote:
> why bother with dirt collecting goo?

Well Chuck, it only becomes dirt collecting goo if you don't do a good
wrapping job... otherwise it stays a lubricant!

> leather gators or tape wrapped or spring steel wrapped?  who
> cares?  it's all model A technology.

Actually, it's horse cart technology, but it works for me. I've found
that it's best to keep an open mind about technology and life in
general. [:~)

> besides do you know how long it takes for the leaves of a
> spring under pressure to dispense the lubricant at the main contact points?
> not very long.

Then why do the springs stay compliant over a long period of time? I
drove my Abarth for thousands of miles in four seasons weather and there
was no change in the springing action.

> for the amount of effort, vs. the length of sucess it's
> hardly worth it.

Let's see; a couple of hours work for thousands of miles of service...
it sounds worth it to me!

> as time goes on the tape
> tries to walk off the thicker center towards the thinner ends and to help
> this along the grease tries to dissolve the adhesive on the tape.    not a
> very pretty sight.   and horribly annoying after all the effort put forth
> for a nice wrap job.

Gee, that hasn't been my experience, Chuck; but as they say, "Your
mileage may vary...." [;~0

Best Regards,
-- 
Dave Grandeffo
http://kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin, USA





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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:09:23 EST
Subject: Midget Mark III dash overlay
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Top of the dash of my new midget is cracked, and missing a chunk of vinyl. 
Trying to make the car presentable, without putting a lot of bucks.

Has anyone had any success with the dash overlay that Vicky Brits sells?

Do they sell some kind of iron patch? I could tolerate a seam. I will just 
put my bobbing head doggie and Hula girl and no will notice.

David Oliner





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From "LDS" <60bugeye at ev1.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: leaf springs
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 21:21:17 -0600

The easiest way to change the nature and compliance of the leaf springs is
to have them teflon coated.  Makes them ride smooth, no squeaks and they
look greattttt for centuries.  Around $200.00 to have them done here in
Houston.  The company takes them all apart, sandblasts them and teflon coats
each leaf.

Leo





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From "Norm" <twobees at sprynet.com>
To: "vintage-race-digest" <owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net>,
   "spridgets-digest" <spridgets@autox.team.net>, <MGVR@yahoogroups.com>,
   "MG Digest" <mgs@autox.team.net>, <alfaromeo750-101@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Help Needed to Find Turners & Turner Information
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:17:55 -0500

Please bear with me.  We are trying to get the following requests out to as
wide a European car web as is possible. So, while the members of this digest
are focused on other marques, perhaps you, or someone you know can help us
find the needed info.

Russ Filby, Registrar (keeper of the Turner information) is seeking
information on unknown cars, people & dealers.

Here are Russ's requests:

"Do you own a Turner?
Is your car's Chassis Number known to the Turner Register? Of the original
number of around 673 cars built, the whereabouts of 294 are today known,
indicating an aproximate 44% survival rate, an incredible 25 missing or lost
Turners have been traced and identified in the past three years, Many thanks
to information provided thru this fantastic
website.(www.turnersportscars.com)

I would dearly like to hear from any owner worldwide to help keep the register
as up to date and as
accurate as possible.

Russ Filby FSCC Turner registrar."

"The Following UK Turner Cars are Some of the 'Missing In Action', Any
Information on these listed by Reg Number appriciated.
(Reg #) 333 KPP, (Model -) MKI Alexander,
XRY 349 MKI,
39 CBC MKII,
PFU 1 803,
VTU 62 803 Demo,
SAA 1 803,
SUF 1 803 (Betty Haig Racecar),
YMA 767 803,
VPX 200 803,
907 ATU 803,
PBC 300 803 (BobGerrard),
2211 BP 950,
WLL 853 950, The Autosport Trophy Cars- NFV 205  950 and (Baldham) WOF4
(Gilbert) 950S ,
YXH 830 (Scrimgeour)MKI ,
868 FNN (Joseph) MK1 ,
842 KWP MKII, Team
Turners 36 WRA,
777 EWT,
WCH 420 MKII Climax,
YJU 726 MKII ,
JBF 913 MKII,
TC-2 MKI,
T-M-T 7 and 444 RAR MKIII (Mackenzie and Scrimgeour)
776 NPF MKI ,
2 CGJ MKI ,
AT 950 MKII
Any Info appriciated."

"The original Turner Sports Cars factory records prior to Car Number 60/361
were destroyed in a factory burglary in early 1960.
Therefore I am trying to assemble as much information on these early cars
(803, 950S , MKI) as possible including Original Engine Numbers (As found on
the manufactures plate) and where or to whom the car was supplied. any
information appriciated. "

"I would like to hear from any former employee's of Turner Sports Cars ,
Alexander Engineering, and associates worldwide , Tri City Sports Cars, A J
Pierson Sales and Service in Florida, Fergus (or Ferguson) Automotive of New
York and LA , Stirling Automotive LA , EuroAuto Inc LA ,

Please feel free to contact me as I am researching the worldwide distribution
and History on Turner cars. "

Any assistance you can give to help Russ find more cars or people will be
gratefully appreciated.  To learn more about these little cars, go to the web
site & explore.

Thanks again.

Norm Sippel
'59 Turner Mk1
'66 MGB





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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>, "LDS" <60bugeye@ev1.net>
Subject: Re: leaf springs

Leo wrote

The easiest way to change the nature and compliance of the leaf springs is
to have them teflon coated.  Makes them ride smooth, no squeaks and they
look greattttt for centuries.  Around $200.00 to have them done here in
Houston.  The company takes them all apart, sandblasts them and teflon coats
each leaf.

Leo


 Leo that sounds like the way to go! Leave it to a Fellow Texan.
 Now please share, who  and where in Houston i have family there
 so shipping wont be an issue.

 This is a great List of people
 Larry Rex



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SDOliner@aol.com wrote:

> Has anyone had any success with the dash overlay that Vicky Brits sells?

I use them all the time. They fit nice. But I also repaint the whole 
thing including the dash cap with vinyl paint (interior in a can)
so it all matches. Great results.

> Do they sell some kind of iron patch? I could tolerate a seam. 

Electric tape, I have also sanded and bondoed a vinyl dash and it looked 
real good but for how long, I don't know. That was a quicky patch and 
sell Sprite. Wadda ya want for $900 bucks and you can drive it home ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
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To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   "Midgetsprite"
  <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: 1974 Brake System Help
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:38:03 -0500

All,
I have almost completely disassembled the dual circuit brake master cylinder
on my 1974 US-spec RWA Midget.  Only thing left is to remove the piston.
This is also the problem.  The Haynes manual says to "gently move the piston
up and down in the cylinder bore to free the nylon guide bearing and the cap
seal.  Remove the plain washer."

For the life of me, I cannot get this damned guide bearing to come out.  And
yes, I did remove the circlip.  How do you get this *%^&$@& thing out.  Any
advice will be greatly appreciated.

TIA,
Tad
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:37:41 EST
Subject: roll bar covers.
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Are the advertised roll bar covers any better than just getting foam pipe 
insulation from the hardware store? A lot cheaper.Anyone bang their heads on 
either? Bob C in KS 





From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan  1 20:40:06 2004
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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "Norm" <twobees@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Help Needed to Find Turners & Turner Information

 Norm
 I always knew you were somebody, as for the search i wish
 that i could help.
 Ebay has ran auctions in the past where i seen guys asking
 for info and offering to pay.
 Possible listing such as, Turner/Reward

 Keep up the good work
 One of your buyers
 Larry Rex




Please bear with me.  We are trying to get the following requests out to as
wide a European car web as is possible. So, while the members of this digest
are focused on other marques, perhaps you, or someone you know can help us
find the needed info.

Russ Filby, Registrar (keeper of the Turner information) is seeking
information on unknown cars, people & dealers.

Here are Russ's requests:

"Do you own a Turner?
Is your car's Chassis Number known to the Turner Register? Of the original
number of around 673 cars built, the whereabouts of 294 are today known,
indicating an aproximate 44% survival rate, an incredible 25 missing or lost
Turners have been traced and identified in the past three years, Many thanks
to information provided thru this fantastic
website.(www.turnersportscars.com)

I would dearly like to hear from any owner worldwide to help keep the register
as up to date and as
accurate as possible.

Russ Filby FSCC Turner registrar."

"The Following UK Turner Cars are Some of the 'Missing In Action', Any
Information on these listed by Reg Number appriciated.
(Reg #) 333 KPP, (Model -) MKI Alexander,
XRY 349 MKI,
39 CBC MKII,
PFU 1 803,
VTU 62 803 Demo,
SAA 1 803,
SUF 1 803 (Betty Haig Racecar),
YMA 767 803,
VPX 200 803,
907 ATU 803,
PBC 300 803 (BobGerrard),
2211 BP 950,
WLL 853 950, The Autosport Trophy Cars- NFV 205  950 and (Baldham) WOF4
(Gilbert) 950S ,
YXH 830 (Scrimgeour)MKI ,
868 FNN (Joseph) MK1 ,
842 KWP MKII, Team
Turners 36 WRA,
777 EWT,
WCH 420 MKII Climax,
YJU 726 MKII ,
JBF 913 MKII,
TC-2 MKI,
T-M-T 7 and 444 RAR MKIII (Mackenzie and Scrimgeour)
776 NPF MKI ,
2 CGJ MKI ,
AT 950 MKII
Any Info appriciated."

"The original Turner Sports Cars factory records prior to Car Number 60/361
were destroyed in a factory burglary in early 1960.
Therefore I am trying to assemble as much information on these early cars
(803, 950S , MKI) as possible including Original Engine Numbers (As found on
the manufactures plate) and where or to whom the car was supplied. any
information appriciated. "

"I would like to hear from any former employee's of Turner Sports Cars ,
Alexander Engineering, and associates worldwide , Tri City Sports Cars, A J
Pierson Sales and Service in Florida, Fergus (or Ferguson) Automotive of New
York and LA , Stirling Automotive LA , EuroAuto Inc LA ,

Please feel free to contact me as I am researching the worldwide distribution
and History on Turner cars. "

Any assistance you can give to help Russ find more cars or people will be
gratefully appreciated.  To learn more about these little cars, go to the web
site & explore.

Thanks again.

Norm Sippel
'59 Turner Mk1
'66 MGB





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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:45:34 EST
Subject: Re: Midget Mark III dash overlay
To: SDOliner@aol.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/1/2004 10:10:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
SDOliner@aol.com writes:


> Has anyone had any success with the dash overlay that Vicky Brits sells?
> 
> 

Dave, I have one on mine and it looks great. you can't tell till you feel for 
it.
George
76 midget
76 mgb
80 mgb





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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: <SDOliner@aol.com>, Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
CC: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Midget Mark III dash overlay

SDOliner@aol.com wrote:

> Has anyone had any success with the dash overlay that Vicky Brits sells?

I use them all the time. They fit nice. But I also repaint the whole 
thing including the dash cap with vinyl paint (interior in a can)
so it all matches. Great results.

> Do they sell some kind of iron patch? I could tolerate a seam. 

Electric tape, I have also sanded and bondoed a vinyl dash and it looked 
real good but for how long, I don't know. That was a quicky patch and 
sell Sprite. Wadda ya want for $900 bucks and you can drive it home ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/


  They sell liquid Electric tape (black) other colors you would
  most likely have to order.
  Who know's it might even L@@K good.

  Larry Rex



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   Midgetsprite
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Subject: Re: 1974 Brake System Help
References: <BGELJBMJPGFLILGCHJAFIENLDEAA.rrivenbark@cfl.rr.com>

Richard Rivenbark wrote:

> 
> For the life of me, I cannot get this damned guide bearing to come out.  And
> yes, I did remove the circlip.  How do you get this *%^&$@& thing out.  

I have had good results with a torch. Melt that sucker out!
Or try what I try first before i melt it out.
Drill 2 small holes in the nylon guide, insert a coarse thread screw in 
each hole. Try prying out with a claw hammer. Sometimes it works.
And that is the easy part.
Wait till you try to get the second circlip out 1/2 way down the bore ;)
8d finish nails on one of those replaceable tipped circlip removal tools 
works sometimes for that. But you need old nails because the new nails 
just bend if you look at them wrong.
-- 
Frank Clarici
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From "Richard Rivenbark" <rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   "Midgetsprite"
  <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: 1974 Brake System Help
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:54:36 -0500

WOW!
Thanks for the quick reply Frank.  I think I may just head out to the garage
and try the screw trick right now.  I have a rebuild kit arriving in the
morning.  It appears the kit included the rubber boot, (2) seals that go
between the reservoir and the main body and (2) other seals.  What are the
(2) other seals and will these require removing the piston?

Thanks again
Tad

P.S. I think I may have some old "made in America" nails in the garage.  If
not, I know the others are "Hecho en Mexico".


-----Original Message-----
From Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at exit109.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 10:46 PM
To: Richard Rivenbark
Cc: Spridgets; Midgetsprite
Subject: Re: 1974 Brake System Help


Richard Rivenbark wrote:

>
> For the life of me, I cannot get this damned guide bearing to come out.
And
> yes, I did remove the circlip.  How do you get this *%^&$@& thing out.

I have had good results with a torch. Melt that sucker out!
Or try what I try first before i melt it out.
Drill 2 small holes in the nylon guide, insert a coarse thread screw in
each hole. Try prying out with a claw hammer. Sometimes it works.
And that is the easy part.
Wait till you try to get the second circlip out 1/2 way down the bore ;)
8d finish nails on one of those replaceable tipped circlip removal tools
works sometimes for that. But you need old nails because the new nails
just bend if you look at them wrong.
--
Frank Clarici
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To: "Wm. Thompson" <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
CC: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Interior Panels
References: <DIECKGFCDFMIDPKNINMJGEBFEPAA.willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
  from [151.201.120.178] at Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:09:29 -0600

I used 3m Headliner adhesive on Little Bits. It has a much stronger bite 
and withstands high temperature better. Craft store & art store 3m #75 
etc won't hold. The headliner stuff is available in the usual local 
parts stores, just have to read all the cans.

Dave & Bobbie

Wm. Thompson wrote:

>I have tried the 3m type spray adhesive, and was VERY disappointed. The only
>thing that actually works, in my opinion, is like frank said, the very old
>stand by of contact cement, and NOT the water based crap.





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From "LDS" <60bugeye at ev1.net>
To: "larryrex" <larryrex@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: leaf springs
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:11:29 -0600

OOPS.... I didnt realise they had moved.  The correct info is:


 Polymer Dynamics, Inc.
11211 Neeshaw Drive
Houston, TX 77065Phone (281) 894 -6382 or
Toll Free
1-888-polydyn
1-888-765-9396
Fax (281) 894 - 2211





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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "larryrex" <larryrex@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   "LDS" <60bugeye@ev1.net>
Subject: Re: leaf springs

Leo Wrote

Company info:

PolyDyn Performance coatings
4116 Siegel St.
Houston, TX  77009
(713) 694-3296

They do all kind of specialy coatings for high performance engines and
accessories.  You ought to so the coating they put on pistons, combustion
chambers and ports to lower the residiual heat from combustion.  Lots of
NASCAR people use them.  website  :  www.polydyn.com
e-Mail  polydyn@pdq.net

Leo

 Thanks for the info:
 Tomorrow i wll give them a call, Figure out when i can get them
 sent it.
 Once they are finished i will post the photo's for the list.
 

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  from [151.201.120.178] at Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:37:08 -0600

Look at some street rod suppliers for the leaf spring liner material. It 
comes in a roll and is either teflon or delrin etc. You can buy various 
widths. Take the stack apart and clean paint etc, then reassemble with 
the layers of  slide material between each leaf. Everyone that has done 
it is pleased at it lasts a long time. I intend to my 46 Dodge truck in 
the spring.

Look here:

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp/strBase_List./hilt./source./base_no.91033036/str_base_no.91033036%2C91043102%2C/header_title.Keyword+Search/page_name.search%2Fkeyword%5Fresults%2Easp/search_type.spring+liner/search_option.Exact/deptsearch./dept_id.225/dept_id_p./dept_name.Street+Rod+Products/dept_name_p./ShowImages.yes/sq.0/cont.1/intPgNo.1/redirect./qx/product.htm

or

http://www.springfieldstreetrods.com/FSuspension2.htm

There is also a new version that has buttons that fit into a hole at 
each leaf tip, but I don't have a link for that one.

Dave & Bobbie





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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: 30 years of love!
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 00:46:51 -0500

well as of last night's arival of the new year i have had my bugeye for 30
years.  i know there are a few other list members who have owned their cars
a bit longer than i have but this is a milestone for me!  love the car?
heck yeah!  gonna keep it? oh yes!   why, you might ask?   just look at the
styling of the car.  it's the late 1950's in styling and tastefully done!
for it's 30th birthday with me i bought it a real car cover!   yes!  i buy
presents for the car!  why not!  it's complete and there are few things i'd
buy for it.  :)

chuck.
:)





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Subject: Re: Leaf Spring Magic
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 00:50:19 -0500

55-57 chevy used wax impregnated woven cotton for an anti-squeake-friction
material later replaced with nylon pads at each leafs end.    all were good
for "production" purposes.  but it was found that full length liners wera
far better for longevity'ssake.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Dave Carpenter <d.carpenter7 at verizon.net>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, January 02, 2004 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: Leaf Spring Magic


>Look at some street rod suppliers for the leaf spring liner material. It
>comes in a roll and is either teflon or delrin etc. You can buy various
>widths. Take the stack apart and clean paint etc, then reassemble with
>the layers of  slide material between each leaf. Everyone that has done
>it is pleased at it lasts a long time. I intend to my 46 Dodge truck in
>the spring.





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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "larryrex" <larryrex@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   "LDS" <60bugeye@ev1.net>
Subject: Re: leaf springs

Leo wrote

OOPS.... I didnt realise they had moved.  The correct info is:


 Polymer Dynamics, Inc.
11211 Neeshaw Drive
Houston, TX 77065Phone (281) 894 -6382 or
Toll Free
1-888-polydyn
1-888-765-9396
Fax (281) 894 - 2211


 Yes i found the new address on the web site.
 Said: The biggest names in stock car and drag racing, NASCAR, NHRA, SCCA, CART, Boat Racing, IROC plus more, use Polydyn TX7!
Rusty Wallace, Don Prudhomme, Ed McCulloch, Cruz Pedregon, Steve Kinser, A.J. Foyt

Bingo A.J. onced lived in the house next to me, quote here: www.fortclark.com
now he own's a ranch on hwy 90 west, less than 20 miles from me.
His ranch employess know me well, and i know this old guy Charlie thats
70 and still fly's he's an A.J. buddy. That guy i work for time
to time. Doing electrical work.
Wheel's are turning now, just need to make if happen.

Thanks Leo for the lead, also i just read Chucks new post it
sounds pretty good too. Thanks Chuck.

 Larry Rex


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To: "LBC" "Spridgets" <@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Leaf Spring Solution

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From Dave Carpenter <d.carpenter7 at verizon.net>
Date:  Fri, 02 Jan 2004 00:37:14 -0500

Look at some street rod suppliers for the leaf spring liner material. It 
comes in a roll and is either teflon or delrin etc. You can buy various 
widths. Take the stack apart and clean paint etc, then reassemble with 
the layers of  slide material between each leaf. Everyone that has done 
it is pleased at it lasts a long time. I intend to my 46 Dodge truck in 
the spring.

Look here:

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp/strBase_List./hilt./source./base_no.91033036/str_base_no.91033036%2C91043102%2C/header_title.Keyword+Search/page_name.search%2Fkeyword%5Fresults%2Easp/search_type.spring+liner/search_option.Exact/deptsearch./dept_id.225/dept_id_p./dept_name.Street+Rod+Products/dept_name_p./ShowImages.yes/sq.0/cont.1/intPgNo.1/redirect./qx/product.htm

or

http://www.springfieldstreetrods.com/FSuspension2.htm

There is also a new version that has buttons that fit into a hole at 
each leaf tip, but I don't have a link for that one.

Dave & Bobbie

 Thats the ticket, the price is right and it LQQks to be something
 that works well.
 Tomorrow i will phone in my inqury at the Houston Based Teflon
 coating firm. Decide then if it's worth horse trading with
 confirmed Customers (A.J.) which means suc ing up.
 Whats important is the area between each leaf.
 My pockets are not so deep after the holidays.
 Your Solution seems to have my vote at the present.
 However if i owned my car for 30 plus yr's
 money would be no object. Call it Love, call it
 what you will.
 Figure in 30 yr's it would be almost GOLD PLATED ?
 This product will be easy to install. Prep Clean paint
 with ? Maybe that por 15 that works half the time.
 Reinstall and forget it untill it's been 30 yrs and time to
 GOLD PLATE.

 Larry Rex

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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:00:09 EST
Subject: Re: I Got It!
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Mike,

Congratulations on your recent aquisition. If you don't already subscribe, 
you may want to pick up a few back issues of "Classic Motorsports" magazine ( 
formerly known as "British Car" magazine).

Starting with the September 2003 issue, the magazine staffers are performing 
and reporting on their frame up restoration of a 71' Midget. I would imagine 
you would find these monthly progress reports to be very worthwhile and 
somewhat interesting.

Howard Collins





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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 06:41:45 EST
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] 1974 Brake System Help
To: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/1/04 7:37:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
rrivenbark@cfl.rr.com writes:


> For the life of me, I cannot get this damned guide bearing to come out.  And
> yes, I did remove the circlip.  How do you get this *%^&$@& thing out.

Tad:

Two things have worked for me--drilling a hole into  it and screwing a long 
thin screw  into the hole to pull it out, or, preferred, I like to heat a thin 
guage nail in a torch to red hot, then melt the insert in two.  Don't worry 
about destroying it--there is a new one in the rebuild kit.  Reason I lie the 
melting procedure is there is less chance of marring the inside of the cylinder 
with a hot nail than there is with a drill and screw.

--David C.






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CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/1/04 7:54:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
spritenut@exit109.com writes:


> Wait till you try to get the second circlip out 1/2 way down the bore ;)
> 8d finish nails on one of those replaceable tipped circlip removal tools 
> works sometimes for that. But you need old nails because the new nails 
> just bend if you look at them wrong.
> 

Frank is right--that 2nd circlip is a real b***h to get to.  But here is a 
tip--go buy some very cheap "Clarici Seal of Disapproval" taiwanese needle-nose 
pliers at your local Crap n" More tool store.  Grind them down on a grinder 
until the whole thing (in front of the hinge) is very flat and narrow.  Grind 
the tips very small and with just a bit of a "tooth" on the inside.  These 
should fit right in there, into the holes of the circlip, and a good squeeze and 
pull and it should (keyword:  "should") slide out.

--David C.






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From "Larry B. Macy, Ph.D." <macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu>
Subject: Re: Macy's Email address
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:11:46 -0500
To: Kevin Valentine <kevin@valentinephoto.net>

Hi there,

Try macy@bbl.med.upenn.edu ;-)

Larry

On Jan 1, 2004, at 4:50 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote:

> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Kevin Valentine <kevin@valentinephoto.net>
>> Date: December 31, 2003 12:30:21 AM EST
>> To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Macy's Email address
>>
>> Sorry to hit the list with this.....
>>
>> Hey Larry,
>>
>> I need your email address....
>>
>> Kevin
-- 

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
macy@bbl.med.upenn.edu
System Administrator/Manager
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

The bottom line: Sure, there's pain in adopting the Mac. But if I accept
that, I get to use a computer that works, and that pretty much does 
what I
expect and want a computer to do.
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Subject: Re: bent ebay Bugeye
References: <001901c3ce1e$a3643520$6401a8c0@bay.chartermi.net>
  from [151.198.26.56] at Fri, 2 Jan 2004 07:24:19 -0600

Rick Fisk wrote:

>Holy mackerel!!!  A bugeye that has taken a hard hit on the left side is
>currently at $3,051 on ebay with a couple of hours to go.  It was hit so
>hard the cowl is bent and the windshield mount is broken.  The sill, a-post,
>bonnet, and door are all severely caved in.  Must be some ebay newbies out
>there caught up in auction fever.  :-)
>
>  
>
Check it out now.  The bidding is done and this is the link. 

http://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws3/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=2449590853 
<http://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws3/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=2449590853>

It looks the the last real bid was
ah100-4 
<http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ReturnUserEmail&requested=ah100-4&iid=2449590853&frm=272>( 
44 
<http://cgi2.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=ah100-4> 
<http://pages.ebay.com/ebaymotors/help/basics/g-stars.html>) 	US 
$2,356.00 	Dec-28-03 05:32:44 PST


for $2,356,  Not bad.  The dope should not of ran up the bid past 
ah100-4 bid.  $2356 for that car is a good price for the seller and 
robbery for the buyer.  I figure that mouse1261, 06281961 and 
minigreencar were shills that were running up the price.  He did seem to 
have a few real bids.  Looks like he lost out.  Why would anyone bid 
back to back unless they are not running up th price?  Anyone want to 
contact the seller and offer him the $100 that car is worth :-D

Gilroy






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Subject: Re: 30 years of love!
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:27:19 -0500
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Charles Christ
  <cfchrist@earthlink.net>

Congrats chuck.

My cars 20th with me was this past Dec 13th. Now on it's way to another 
happy 20 ;-)

I plan to give it a 30th birthday present (it is a 78) in April 08. 
That will be a full body off restoration. In Dec of that year it will 
have been mine for 25 years.

Larry

On Jan 2, 2004, at 12:46 AM, Charles Christ wrote:

> well as of last night's arival of the new year i have had my bugeye 
> for 30
> years.  i know there are a few other list members who have owned their 
> cars
> a bit longer than i have but this is a milestone for me!  love the car?
> heck yeah!  gonna keep it? oh yes!   why, you might ask?   just look 
> at the
> styling of the car.  it's the late 1950's in styling and tastefully 
> done!
> for it's 30th birthday with me i bought it a real car cover!   yes!  i 
> buy
> presents for the car!  why not!  it's complete and there are few 
> things i'd
> buy for it.  :)
>
> chuck.
> :)
>
>
--
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macy@bbl.med.upenn.edu
System Administrator/Manager
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Department of Psychiatry
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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists@verizon.net>,
   Rick Fisk
  <refisk@chartermi.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: bent ebay Bugeye
References: <001901c3ce1e$a3643520$6401a8c0@bay.chartermi.net>
  <3FF570DD.5050103@verizon.net>
  FILETIME=[4E06DEC0:01C3D139]

This one is so obvious a bid run up situation, I wonder if eBay is aware of it.......

"William M. Gilroy" wrote:

> for $2,356,  Not bad.  The dope should not of ran up the bid past
> ah100-4 bid.  $2356 for that car is a good price for the seller and
> robbery for the buyer.  I figure that mouse1261, 06281961 and
> minigreencar were shills that were running up the price.  He did seem to
> have a few real bids.  Looks like he lost out.  Why would anyone bid
> back to back unless they are not running up th price?  Anyone want to
> contact the seller and offer him the $100 that car is worth :-D
>
> Gilroy






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  from [151.198.26.56] at Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:09:34 -0600

Dave Grandeffo wrote:

>Greetings All,
>As I've been lurking on the list, looking for tidbits that will help in
>my Lotus Eleven Replica project, I've noticed several dramas from time
>to time connected with Spridget leaf springs... people willing to go to
>almost any lengths to modify/replace/reengineer their rear suspensions.
>  
>
The main problem I see are complaints about the quality of the 
replacement leafs that are currently on the market.  I should know my 
car only had one installed and it hangs low on the left :-[   

Gilroy






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Subject: Re: bent ebay Bugeye
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:34:46 -0000

The clue is in the apparent lack of any previous e-bay trades by
minigreencar, mouse1261 or 06281961. Non have either bought or sold on e-bay
before, and yet are supposedly happy to bid $2000 + for a wrecked car sold
unseen!!.

Yes, well, very likely!

Guy


----- Original Message ----- 
From "Brad Fornal" <toyman at digitex.net>
Cc: "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists@verizon.net>; "Rick Fisk"
<refisk@chartermi.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: bent ebay Bugeye


> This one is so obvious a bid run up situation, I wonder if eBay is aware
of it.......
>
> "William M. Gilroy" wrote:
>
> > for $2,356,  Not bad.  The dope should not of ran up the bid past
> > ah100-4 bid.  $2356 for that car is a good price for the seller and
> > robbery for the buyer.  I figure that mouse1261, 06281961 and
> > minigreencar were shills that were running up the price.  He did seem to
> > have a few real bids.  Looks like he lost out.  Why would anyone bid
> > back to back unless they are not running up th price?  Anyone want to
> > contact the seller and offer him the $100 that car is worth :-D
> >
> > Gilroy






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From James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Dry / Wet Compression Test
To: Spridgets Digest <spridgets-digest@autox.team.net>

Planning on running a commpression test on the 1275 I purchased over the weekend. I know that one should take a dry and a wet reading. How much oil, I'm guessing someting like a teaspoonful does one add to the cylinder to get a proper wet reading? 
 
Mounted the starter motor and find I can turn engine quite easily right at the flywheel by hand with the starter gear. This does not bode well. I pulled the plugs and they are all oily and covered with heavy, heavy ash deposits. 
 
Got the Vizard book on Wednesday and have been doing some major pipe dreaming, Time for a rebuild I can almost guarantee it.
 
Hey I was amazed at actually how light a 1275 is. Built a roll around dolly out of some scrap lumber and big casters I had saved for some undeterminable project in the future. So I got the dolly built and I needed a way to get the engine raised up and the dolly to go underneath. Finding myself at home alone, and all neighbors with strong backs out of town I rummaged around and found some spare pulleys in the sailboat hardware box, spare lines, a cleat, a U-Bolt, and my 6' wooden stepladder. A little creative thought, a 6-1 mechanical advantage, tie a rope around the engine, position the step ladder over the engine, give a little heave and presto, it levitates. All is stable and securely mounted to the dolly and I no longer have a large cast iron doorstep in the middle of my garage. 


Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
Dayton, OH

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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: bent ebay Bugeye
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:55:50 -0600
  with any abuse report

well I can tell you that mouse won that auction, and is a current high
bidder in one of mine, And I got no clue who he is. But what he is bidding
on of mine indicates that he indeed get that car, and is intending to fix
it.
interesting thing all you guys missed, the description, says the car is 34
years old LOL  hmm that makes it either a 1970 bugeye, or a real math whiz
that's selling the car LMAO

-----Original Message-----
From Guy Weller [mailto:Guy.Weller at kencomp.net]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 8:35 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: bent ebay Bugeye


The clue is in the apparent lack of any previous e-bay trades by
minigreencar, mouse1261 or 06281961. Non have either bought or sold on e-bay
before, and yet are supposedly happy to bid $2000 + for a wrecked car sold
unseen!!.

Yes, well, very likely!

Guy


----- Original Message -----
From "Brad Fornal" <toyman at digitex.net>
Cc: "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists@verizon.net>; "Rick Fisk"
<refisk@chartermi.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: bent ebay Bugeye


> This one is so obvious a bid run up situation, I wonder if eBay is aware
of it.......
>
> "William M. Gilroy" wrote:
>
> > for $2,356,  Not bad.  The dope should not of ran up the bid past
> > ah100-4 bid.  $2356 for that car is a good price for the seller and
> > robbery for the buyer.  I figure that mouse1261, 06281961 and
> > minigreencar were shills that were running up the price.  He did seem to
> > have a few real bids.  Looks like he lost out.  Why would anyone bid
> > back to back unless they are not running up th price?  Anyone want to
> > contact the seller and offer him the $100 that car is worth :-D






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From <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: engine/trans dolly
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 09:03:22 -0600
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Hey, just thought I would add my 2cents on the engine dolly thread, I have
purchased car dollies for moving my cars around tightly in the garage, they
were 34 dollars for a set of 2, ==17 bucks each (farm and fleet)
with a very simple little bracket bolted under one of the dolly bolts, and
up to the engine, it makes a very cheap dolly, and works great. has brakes
on the wheels etc, and serves as something else when you don't need an
engine dolly.
I don't really think you can buy 4 casters with brakes for that amount of
money. I think I have a picture if anyone wants to see one of it with an
engine on it

willy@thompsoncarpentry.com

www.thompsoncarpentry.com






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To: "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: bent ebay Bugeye
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 09:05:00 -0600

You guys (no pun intendeded, Guy -:) ), aren't keeping up with this one !!

http://tinyurl.com/2jh82

LOL !!

j.






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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:06:48 -0500 (EST)
To: thistle_3619@yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Cc: spridgets-digest@autox.team.net (Spridgets Digest)
Subject: Re: Dry / Wet Compression Test
  Jan 2004 06:46:30 -0800 (PST)

James...

Never fear, Cap'n Bob is here and help
is on the way (via off-list email!).

The 1275 is light for YOU, not me!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:08:41 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com (Wm. Thompson)
Cc: Guy.Weller@kencomp.net (Guy Weller), spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: RE: bent ebay Bugeye
  Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:55:50 -0600

LOL...

What's 10 years between friends, right?:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: "MLD" <mardep5@adelphia.net>, "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Steel clutch/brake line

Is "Slamed" a verb or a name?

Anyway.... Fiats use a metric 10x 1.25 single (or bubble) flare. Spridgets 
use a 3/8"-24 flare at the rear. You need adapters, which are made and 
offered by Everco, among others. Everco part numbers for adapters as 
follows.  Adapter having 3/8"-24 female single flare and 10x 1.25 single 
flare male is 3002B. (best choice as these are the stock Spridget lines) An 
alternative is 3026B which adapts US style double flare to Fiats. But then 
you have to go from single to double first.

         Peter C.
==========
At 10:10 AM 1/1/2004, MLD wrote:
>The addition of steel lines in replacement of the rubber would be a great
>touch to the Mutant.  Question is the system is from a Fiat and matching them
>up.
>
>Any Fiat experts out there?
>
>Slamed
>79 Mutant Midget
>mardep5@adelphia.net






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20040102085509.022e2e20@mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Steel clutch/brake line
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 09:23:33 -0600

> Is "Slamed" a verb or a name?

I always figured that 'Slamed' was just Marco's way of saying "Slam Ed". I
guess he must have been lurking for a long time ...
David Lieb
1972 RWA Midget






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   "Wm. Thompson"
  <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
CC: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: bent ebay Bugeye

From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>

well I can tell you that mouse won that auction, and is a current high
bidder in one of mine, And I got no clue who he is. But what he is bidding
on of mine indicates that he indeed get that car, and is intending to fix
it.
interesting thing all you guys missed, the description, says the car is 34
years old LOL  hmm that makes it either a 1970 bugeye, or a real math whiz
that's selling the car LMAO

-----Original Message-----
From Guy Weller [mailto:Guy.Weller at kencomp.net]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 8:35 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: bent ebay Bugeye


The clue is in the apparent lack of any previous e-bay trades by
minigreencar, mouse1261 or 06281961. Non have either bought or sold on e-bay
before, and yet are supposedly happy to bid $2000 + for a wrecked car sold
unseen!!.

Yes, well, very likely!

Guy


----- Original Message -----
From "Brad Fornal" <toyman at digitex.net>
Cc: "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists@verizon.net>; "Rick Fisk"
<refisk@chartermi.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: bent ebay Bugeye


> This one is so obvious a bid run up situation, I wonder if eBay is aware
of it.......
>
> "William M. Gilroy" wrote:
>
> > for $2,356,  Not bad.  The dope should not of ran up the bid past
> > ah100-4 bid.  $2356 for that car is a good price for the seller and
> > robbery for the buyer.  I figure that mouse1261, 06281961 and
> > minigreencar were shills that were running up the price.  He did seem to
> > have a few real bids.  Looks like he lost out.  Why would anyone bid
> > back to back unless they are not running up th price?  Anyone want to
> > contact the seller and offer him the $100 that car is worth :-D

Willy
Watch out, seems Mouse takes the cheese but doenst always pay, for
items won. Did a search on him and on Dec-24-03 05:26:15 PST
He won an auction for a Mini.  Item number: 2449248386 That now has been relisted.

 BEWARE



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Willy,
Correct me if i'm wrong, but it looks like the Bugeye dash in your 
auction has a buggered (that's an American term) the ignition hole to 
accept a later ignition switch.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>

Wm. Thompson wrote:

>well I can tell you that mouse won that auction, and is a current high
>bidder in one of mine, And I got no clue who he is. But what he is bidding
>on of mine indicates that he indeed get that car, and is intending to fix
>it.
>interesting thing all you guys missed, the description, says the car is 34
>years old LOL  hmm that makes it either a 1970 bugeye, or a real math whiz
>that's selling the car LMAO






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From MGTD2 at aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:52:30 EST
Subject: Fwd: Made in Italy?
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Return-path: <MGTD2@aol.com>
From MGTD2 at aol.com
Full-name: MGTD2
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:51:39 EST
Subject: Re: Made in Italy?
To: spritenut@exit109.com

In a message dated 1/1/2004 5:54:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
spritenut@exit109.com writes:


> > Did I tell you Carol bought me an engine crane at Horrible Freight for a 
> > Christmas present. 
> 
> I too have the horrible freight chinese electric engine hoist.
> It still works after 3 engine pulls but the cable already frayed.
> I had to cut that part off and use some real cable clamps to fix it.
> Just a warning to all you people who have this top quality device.
> INSPECT THE CABLE DAILY.
> the last engine was that Subaru engine, and I was there when my son 
> lowered it to the dolly. The cable was not frayed. It was 3 days later 
> when it just caught my attention. Only chinese stuff self destructs when 
> not in use so keep an eye on it.
> 
> 

I was afraid of the electric hoist.  I have the "cherry picker" with the 
hydraulic jack.  And last year I got one of those Oberg Tilt-lifts from one of the 
boys, so the combo should make Spridget motor replacement as easy as making 
love in a washtub.
JohnD






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From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Made in Italy?

At 09:52 AM 1/2/2004, MGTD2@aol.com wrote:
><SNIP>
>I was afraid of the electric hoist.  I have the "cherry picker" with the
>hydraulic jack.  And last year I got one of those Oberg Tilt-lifts from 
>one of the
>boys, so the combo should make Spridget motor replacement as easy as making
>love in a washtub.
>JohnD
====
I thought YOU made beer in a washtub! I hope to hell you have more than 1 
tub. I had your beer, once...........
         Peter C






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <1a7.1e36c9c7.2d26edbe@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Made in Italy?
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:25:48 -0600

> I was afraid of the electric hoist.  I have the "cherry picker" with the
> hydraulic jack.  And last year I got one of those Oberg Tilt-lifts from
one of the
> boys, so the combo should make Spridget motor replacement as easy as
making
> love in a washtub.

Talk about your interesting visuals!!!
I watched the electric hoist in use on a Spridget at SOS '03. It got the job
done, but I was less than happy with it. It has one speed up and one speed
down with no capacity for "easing" in and out. I am very glad that I got the
cherry picker, too.
I got religion on cherry pickers about 15 years or so ago when my
father-in-law got one. We used that puppy with one of the better 4-chain
tilt bars to snake the V8 and automatic tranny out of a couple of Pontiacs
without even bothering to remove the bonnet. Very slick! Someone gave him
the crane, or he never would have gotten it, since he already had a
chain-fall on an I-beam in the garage. That chain-fall has never seen
another day's work since the cherry-picker showed up.
Now to go look for a washtub ...
David Lieb






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 11:31:10 EST
Subject: Re: Steel clutch/brake line
To: nosimport@mailbag.com, mardep5@adelphia.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/2/04 7:14:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
nosimport@mailbag.com writes:


> Is "Slamed" a verb or a name?
> 

And is it a derivitaive of the verb "Slurped" and the verb "Flamed"?

--David C.






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 11:37:24 EST
Subject: Re: Made in Italy?
To: nosimport@mailbag.com, MGTD2@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/2/04 8:23:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
nosimport@mailbag.com writes:


> I thought YOU made beer in a washtub! I hope to hell you have more than 1 
> tub. I had your beer, once...........
>          Peter C
> 

Peter:

Bet that was LIGHT beer, which is made out of pee anyway.  8^)

--David C.






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To: DLancer7676@cs.com, MGTD2@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Made in Italy?

At 10:37 AM 1/2/2004, DLancer7676@cs.com wrote:
>In a message dated 1/2/04 8:23:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>nosimport@mailbag.com writes:
> > I thought YOU made beer in a washtub! I hope to hell you have more than 1
> > tub. I had your beer, once...........
> >          Peter C
> > Peter:
>Bet that was LIGHT beer, which is made out of pee anyway.  8^)
>--David C.
===
Nope. It certainly wasn't light.  Besides, light beer has some connection 
to canoes and lovemaking.... not washtubs.
         Peter (no-relation) C.






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From "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at hotmail.com>
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: 30 years of love!
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 09:34:16 -0800
  FILETIME=[A56D4420:01C3D156]

Congrats, Chuck.  Amazing how long some of us keep these little suckers 
known affectionately as "Bugeyes".

FROGGI has been with me for 28 years.

WFO Herb
4 Bugeyes and counting....

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From "brian S" <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: 30 years of love!
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:24:43 -0500
  FILETIME=[B18D7F70:01C3D15D]

CONGRRATS chuck!!

HAPPY belated BIRTHDAY too BTW!!

The Bugeye of mine that you're working on has been in my family for about 38 
years, as near as I can tell! And has never been driven on the 
street......legally   ;-)


Brian



>well as of last night's arival of the new year i have had my bugeye for 30
>years.  i know there are a few other list members who have owned their cars
>a bit longer than i have but this is a milestone for me!  love the car?
>heck yeah!  gonna keep it? oh yes!   why, you might ask?   just look at the
>styling of the car.  it's the late 1950's in styling and tastefully done!
>for it's 30th birthday with me i bought it a real car cover!   yes!  i buy
>presents for the car!  why not!  it's complete and there are few things i'd
>buy for it.  :)
>
>chuck.
>:)

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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:46:54 EST
Subject: Re: Midget Mark III dash overlay
To: Bmidget1@aol.com, SDOliner@aol.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/01/2004 8:46:31 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
Bmidget1@aol.com writes:
> Has anyone had any success with the dash overlay that Vicky Brits sells?
> 
> 

Dave, I have one on mine and it looks great. you can't tell till you feel for 
it.
Where do you live?  I have one on my 73 and the El Paso sun has begun to 
ripple the top...it is taking on the contours for the bad dash underneath.

Robert Houston

The Supreme Court ruled there cannot be a nativity scene
 in Washington,DC this Christmas.
 This isn't for any religious or constitutional reason,
 they simply have not been able to find three wise men or
 a virgin in the nation's capitol.
 There was no problem however finding enough asses to
 fill the stable






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From "MLD" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Never Safe
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:58:16 -0500

Looks like I've been 'Slamed' again.


Marco
79 Mutant Midget






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan  2 12:25:11 2004
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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:24:24 -0500 (EST)
To: SDOliner@aol.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Midget Mark III dash overlay

Yep.

Prepared it the "Clarici way". Lasted the
life of the car (80K miles over many, many
years:).




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:28:51 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: 30 years of love!
  2 Jan 2004 00:46:51 -0500

"yes. I buy presents for the car"

As in proper and correct...:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan  2 13:25:18 2004
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From chuck <cciaffone at earthlink.net>
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Subject: OT: Finding 3/8" Allen Wrenches

I'm in need of several 3/8" allen wrenches, but all I can
find singly are smaller sizes (at the local True Value).
Y'all got any suggestions?? I'm gonna call/cruise what
auto-parts stores are nearby, but I don't remember
seeing them there.

thanks,

chuck






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan  2 13:41:33 2004
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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "chuck" <cciaffone@earthlink.net>,
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  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Finding 3/8" Allen Wrenches
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:39:24 -0500

You have a WW Grainger nearby?  

Geoff Branch 
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
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From "chuck" <cciaffone at earthlink.net>
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Subject: OT: Finding 3/8" Allen Wrenches


> I'm in need of several 3/8" allen wrenches, but all I can
> find singly are smaller sizes (at the local True Value).
> Y'all got any suggestions?? I'm gonna call/cruise what
> auto-parts stores are nearby, but I don't remember
> seeing them there.
> 
> thanks,






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From SDOliner at aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 16:14:00 EST
Subject: Wee tight piano hinge, seat belt webbing& seat covers
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Need an accelerator pedal for the 69 Midget. Or is there a wee tight way to 
do this?

Has any just replaced the seat belt webbing in their interia reel belts?

Is there a wee tight way to get seats covered?


David Oliner






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 16:21:43 EST
Subject: Re: Kent
To: mardep5@adelphia.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 12/26/2003 11:21:47 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
mardep5@adelphia.net writes:
Live in the Chillicothe area.

Marco
79 Mutant Midget
Ohio, Texas, Ilinois, Missouri, or Iowa?

Robert Houston

The Supreme Court ruled there cannot be a nativity scene
 in Washington,DC this Christmas.
 This isn't for any religious or constitutional reason,
 they simply have not been able to find three wise men or
 a virgin in the nation's capitol.
 There was no problem however finding enough asses to
 fill the stable






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan  2 14:36:59 2004
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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 16:36:03 EST
Subject: Re: Re[3]: carb stacks
To: pythias@pacifier.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 12/28/2003 8:50:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
pythias@pacifier.com writes:
Hello Bill,

       the "stacks" appear to be about 1 1/2" tall. pictures at

       
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2449377209&category=34198

       i like Frank C.'s idea of stuffing a sock in it. the breathing
       characteristics MIGHT not be ideal, but the $$$ aspect has its
       appeal.




-- 
Best regards,
I picked up some "vintage" stacks recently...read old and dirty, and was told 
the motor cycle shop would have a "cover" for these that acts as a filter.  
Haven't been there yet but some of the list is into two wheelers and they might 
know...

By the way, mine are about 3 inches long, do I win?


Robert Houston

The Supreme Court ruled there cannot be a nativity scene
 in Washington,DC this Christmas.
 This isn't for any religious or constitutional reason,
 they simply have not been able to find three wise men or
 a virgin in the nation's capitol.
 There was no problem however finding enough asses to
 fill the stable






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From "Scott Family" <rscott213 at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Midget seats
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:41:29 -0800

Hi all, I have a 73 midget that is a daily driver for me.  The seats are in
pretty sad shape and I'm wondering if anyone on the list has replaced theirs
with something else? And if so what was entailed?  I was thinking along the
lines of getting a pair of Matia seats from the wrecking yard.



Your thoughts and advice would be appreciated.



Thanks



Rob






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From Bmidget1 at aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 18:45:32 EST
Subject: Re: Midget Mark III dash overlay
To: RBHouston@aol.com, SDOliner@aol.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/2/2004 1:48:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
RBHouston@aol.com writes:


> Where do you live?  I have one on my 73 and the El Paso sun has begun to 
> ripple the top...

I live on Long Island How ever we have driven my Midget to Texas in 2002, and 
St. Louis in 2003 in 100 degree weather and blazing sun. I also have 
experienced    
El Paso in August and there is no way any dash can survive the sun in that 
part of the country. 125 in the shade. But it's a dry heat. I feel for you man. 
I got to admit though it is beautiful there and would love to go back.
George
76 midget
76 mgb
80 mgb






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "LBC" "Spridgets" <@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: MIDGET/FROGEYE HEATER CABLE/SWITCH 

 Anyone looking for one of these?

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2451182570&category=27380&rd=1

 The price is right, but watch out on the shipping charges.

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From Miniac7 at aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:22:20 EST
Subject: Re: Midget seats
To: rscott213@comcast.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

Not answering your specific question but if you choose to retain Midget 
seats, I have a pair of black ones from a 74' which are in very good condition, 
which I would like to sell. E-mail me if interested.






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Midget seats
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 18:52:39 -0600

I have seats from a 1991 Miata in my 1972 Midget. I am quite happy with the
fit. They are a little high for my tastes, but I would have the same problem
with new Midget seats, too. The headrests even fit the pockets of the
tonneau cover.
David Lieb






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "LBC" "Spridgets" <@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: BUGEYE SPRITE ABARTH VERY RARE NOS 

 Here is a paste of a sent email to the seller LOL

  Question to seller regarding eBay Item # 2450874518 
Item: BUGEYE SPRITE ABARTH VERY RARE NOS 
Message:  sir this is to inform you that the present high bidder
for the abarth muffler has a bad track record.
His feed back of 58 has 13 neg if i were you 
think i would cancel his bid.
good luck
Larry 


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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: got new MINI
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:43:54 -0800

We finally did the deed and dumped the Plymouth minivan, the last vestige of
the kids/soccer days.  After months of discussion between the Prius and the
new Mini, we took one long look at the Prius and decided that it looked too
butt-ugly to ever sit in our driveway.
 So we got the new Mini!  A bright yellow that almost matches bugeye with the
white top and giant sunroof.  No supercharger, as the Brit Car mag article
made it sound like the non-S had plenty for all but the foolish.
I'm going to sell the little '58 A35 Austin to make room in the garage.  The
measuring tape says it will fit in on one side with bugeye and the Traveller
will have the other side to herself.

Finally a car in the family that I won't EVER have to fix myself.  With the
other cars in the family, I don't really think I had any choice.  I won't even
pretend to review it until I've driven it for awhile.

Glen






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From "Richard Rivenbark" <rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   "Midgetsprite"
  <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: SUCCESS!!!!
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 01:57:07 -0500

Damn what a night!!  Master Cylinder rebuild kit and hoses in hand.  Finally
have a license plate on the car!!!  Antique tag in Florida only costs $20.58
per year for a Midget.  Got mine today, and the first 3 digits are 074!!!!
65 degrees outside with a slight breeze at 1 in the morning.  Perfect
weather for working on a car!!  Tonight I completed the brake system master
cylinder rebuild with success (even found a cheapo pair of circlip pliers at
AutoZone for $11.99 that reached the second circlip).  Got one of the front
hoses replaced.  It was completely plugged up.  Guess I'll wake up in a bit,
replace the other 2 hoses, and for the first time take her out of the
neighborhood.  I  guess its time to finally come up with a name for the old
girl.

Hope you guys are having the same kind of luck I am!!
Tad
69 MGC GT
74 RWA Midget (about ready to head out into the scary world again)


P.S. If anybody is interested I can give you the part number for the circlip
pliers from AutoZone.  They come with 4 different sets of tips (2 straight
and 2 curved).

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From "Richard Rivenbark" <rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: MIDGET/FROGEYE HEATER CABLE/SWITCH
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 02:04:19 -0500

......And as of right now the current high bidder is justbritsinc!!!!!!  
Hey Ed is that going to help control all that hot air <VBG>
*Ducking for cover with flame suit on*

Tad

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[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of larryrex
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 7:09 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: MIDGET/FROGEYE HEATER CABLE/SWITCH


 Anyone looking for one of these?

 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2451182570&category=27380
&rd=1

 The price is right, but watch out on the shipping charges.


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From "Eric Goforth" <egoforth at bellsouth.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401022132.AA3278120@awesomenet.net>
Subject: Re: BUGEYE SPRITE ABARTH VERY RARE NOS 
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 08:45:27 -0500

Hello,

I only see 2 negatives, and no recent negatives.

My Dad had one of these on his first car, a bugeye, it also had a Judson
supercharger.  He told me about deliberately squirting water up the muffler
when washing his car to try to rust it out and make it louder.

-Eric
----- Original Message ----- 
From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "LBC Spridgets" <@awesomenet.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:32 PM
Subject: BUGEYE SPRITE ABARTH VERY RARE NOS


> Here is a paste of a sent email to the seller LOL
>
>   Question to seller regarding eBay Item # 2450874518
> Item: BUGEYE SPRITE ABARTH VERY RARE NOS
> Message:  sir this is to inform you that the present high bidder
> for the abarth muffler has a bad track record.
> His feed back of 58 has 13 neg if i were you
> think i would cancel his bid.
> good luck
> Larry






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401022041.i02Kfmo8026905@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: 30 years of love!
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 09:42:34 -0500

Charles Christ wrote:
> well as of last night's arival of the new year i have 
> had my bugeye for 30 years.  

Congratulations.  I have owned my Healey 100 since 
April of 1974.  But it doesn't run.  Call it 30 years of 
wishful thinking.  A man needs to dream.

Kent
'56 100 BN2






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From James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Compression Test
To: Spridgets Digest <spridgets-digest@autox.team.net>

OK here's the tale of the compression gauge so to speak. I ran a compression test on the 1275 I purchased and here are the results. These numbers were taken with a cold engine, sitting on a dolly,  and I'm sure operating temps do make a difference. Battery was fully charged and carbs were manually opened.
 
P.O. reported that engine all of a sudden started using oil after an extended trip. One quart per 100 miles. Plugs are oil soaked and covered with heavy ash deposits so oil is obviously getting in there someplace. I did notice that this 1969 vintage 1275 does have a buggered up(American version of buggered) vented oil filler cap and does not seal properly. Emission gear has been removed and air injection ports plugged. Crankcase is vented from flame arrestor and goes up with one hose to a Y connector that goes into the carbs. No carbon cannister, no vented return line to the fuel tank etc.
 
Engine has been sitting for an extended time and I cranked it over for perhaps 30 seconds before I started the compression test to try and circulate some oil.
                              Dry                  Wet
#1                          130 lbs             175 lbs
 
#2                          125 lbs             160 lbs
 
#3                          110 lbs             135 lbs
 
#4                          115 lbs             135 lbs    
 
Battery did seem to be cranking slower for tests of # 3 & # 4 Cylinders so the numbers could be off slightly. Lets give it the benefit of the doubt.
 
I'm not sure what the correct compression numbers are but I'll guess they are on the low scale. 
 
Your guesses on oil consumption from ring leakage, valves due to heavy oil blowby.
 
P.O. Says no real visible blue smoke but I don't believe that line. 
 
Is it possible the leaky oil filler cap could somehow be allowing the engine to pull excess oil from the crankcase and inject it so to speak into the engine or is it time to admit this one is a candidate for Vizardizing. Your opinions please.
 
P.S. Planning on doing a leakdown test with compressed air on #3 & #4 to figure out 
if rings or valves.

Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
Dayton, OH

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From "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at hotmail.com>
To: grbyrns@ucdavis.edu, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: got new MINI
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 08:59:08 -0800
  FILETIME=[E7BF9160:01C3D21A]

I trust you won't be like 99.9999999% of Mini drivers that haven't a clue 
and fail to acknowledge other LBCs while driving down the road.

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From "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller at kencomp.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>, "James Gruber" <thistle_3619@yahoo.com>
References: <20040103155856.92710.qmail@web20307.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Compression Test
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 17:21:13 -0000

James,
This is how I would read those results for a 1275 engine.....

The rather big differences between dry and wet figures suggests poor sealing
at the rings.  Adding oil temporarily improoves the seal and gives the
better reading.  If they were good to start with, then adding oil would have
a more marginal effect. I would suspect that you do not have any broken
rings though, as the wet figure would be less likely to improove over the
dry figure if the rings were broken.  I may be wrong with this assumption
though.

Even the best wet figure is on the low side.  It should be up around 195 or
better.  So this indicates probable leakage at the valve seats as well.  #3
and #4 are poor enough to suggest that you may have burnt valves on those
cylinders.

Do a leakdown test if you have the equipment, but I think you will be
removing the head before very much more of 2004 has passed.

Guy

----- Original Message ----- 
From "James Gruber" <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets-digest@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:58 PM
Subject: Compression Test


> OK here's the tale of the compression gauge so to speak. I ran a
compression test on the 1275 I purchased and here are the results. These
numbers were taken with a cold engine, sitting on a dolly,  and I'm sure
operating temps do make a difference. Battery was fully charged and carbs
were manually opened.
>
> P.O. reported that engine all of a sudden started using oil after an
extended trip. One quart per 100 miles. Plugs are oil soaked and covered
with heavy ash deposits so oil is obviously getting in there someplace. I
did notice that this 1969 vintage 1275 does have a buggered up(American
version of buggered) vented oil filler cap and does not seal properly.
Emission gear has been removed and air injection ports plugged. Crankcase is
vented from flame arrestor and goes up with one hose to a Y connector that
goes into the carbs. No carbon cannister, no vented return line to the fuel
tank etc.
>
> Engine has been sitting for an extended time and I cranked it over for
perhaps 30 seconds before I started the compression test to try and
circulate some oil.
>                               Dry                  Wet
> #1                          130 lbs             175 lbs
>
> #2                          125 lbs             160 lbs
>
> #3                          110 lbs             135 lbs
>
> #4                          115 lbs             135 lbs
>
> Battery did seem to be cranking slower for tests of # 3 & # 4 Cylinders so
the numbers could be off slightly. Lets give it the benefit of the doubt.
>
> I'm not sure what the correct compression numbers are but I'll guess they
are on the low scale.
>
> Your guesses on oil consumption from ring leakage, valves due to heavy oil
blowby.
>
> P.O. Says no real visible blue smoke but I don't believe that line.
>
> Is it possible the leaky oil filler cap could somehow be allowing the
engine to pull excess oil from the crankcase and inject it so to speak into
the engine or is it time to admit this one is a candidate for Vizardizing.
Your opinions please.
>
> P.S. Planning on doing a leakdown test with compressed air on #3 & #4 to
figure out
> if rings or valves.
>
> Jim Gruber
> Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
> Dayton, OH






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Austin A35 details
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 09:54:18 -0800

For those of you who asked, here are the details on the A35:

1958 Austin A35 saloon, Old English White original color resprayed with DuPont
Centauri enamel, under bonnet is same.  Interior is all very good condition
red leather with matching carpet.  Drum front and rear brakes stock, all
rebuilt with two front cylinders freshly brass resleeved by Sierra Speciality.
Electrical system is basically stock and working very well.  Mods include only
the minimum and are of course reversible.  Voltage regulator is pulled out and
Mitsubishi 1-wire alternator installed (hey guys, gimme a break, I've been
driving it every day).  Also, Pertronix Ignitor ignition in place and car is
converted to neg. ground.  That done for 200 watt Quadraphonic AM/FM CD.  The
motor is a bone stock 948cc original to the car with original smooth case
tranny.  The engine has been throughly rebuilt and runs great.  I opted to put
on a Morris Minor intake manifold and a single 1.25"SU instead of the original
Zenith carb which I still have with the original manifold.  The tranny was
rebuilt sometime in the recent past and shifts very well and is actually
quiet.  I put in a 3.9 rear end to allow it to achieve freeway speed (barely).
Exhaust system is all new and sounds good.  Gets about 30MPG and is a fine
little town putt-putt.  Definitely NOT a freeway car.  I have made short trips
on the freeway but this is not its world.  I use it for the commute to work
when the weather is bad enough to prefer it to the bugeye.  I've also used it
as a backup while the bugeye is getting his winter mods.

Honesty disclaimer:  Two or three tiny garage dings in the home paint job. Any
real paint critic will see that the paint was not rubbed out properly and
could at best be called a very good garage paint job.  The rear brake slave
has been replace by the PO with a VW slave that is a good fit and works well.
I guess in the 70's he couldn't find the original replacement parts now
readily available from "Autofurbish" of England.
The brand new headliner is stock and is a stock mediocre fit. Chrome looks 45
years old.

Glen






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From Jay Fishbein <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Re: got new MINI
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Why do some people that own older Brit cars have this negative attitude 
towards the new MINI? I don't see the same attitude towards Jaguar, or 
Aston-Martin , both of which are now foreign owned. Nor am I aware of 
such an attitude towards Rover when it was owned by BMW.

It is a problem to the point that many MINI owners will no longer be 
involved with classic Mini events due to the overtly negative attitude 
and actions of some older Mini owners.

I don't get it. What's the problem?

It's possible that some of the MINI owners you pass are too busy 
shifting with one hand and steering with the other to wave.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>

WFO Herb wrote:

> I trust you won't be like 99.9999999% of Mini drivers that haven't a 
> clue and fail to acknowledge other LBCs while driving down the road.






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From "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller at kencomp.net>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <04a501c3d222$9c19bf80$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: Austin A35 details
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 18:09:45 -0000

Ahh, memory lane!
One of the first cars I owned was a green A35 van.  Cost me 45 GBP back in
'67.  Great car.  Remembering a camping trip to Cornwall to go surfing with
girlfriend (now wife, mine).

Should definately get more than 30mpg though.  I would expect 40 +,
especially with that higher back axle ratio.

Guy

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:54 PM
Subject: Austin A35 details


> For those of you who asked, here are the details on the A35:
>
> 1958 Austin A35 saloon, Old English White original color resprayed with
DuPont
> Centauri enamel, under bonnet is same.  Interior is all very good
condition
> red leather with matching carpet.  Drum front and rear brakes stock, all
> rebuilt with two front cylinders freshly brass resleeved by Sierra
Speciality.
> Electrical system is basically stock and working very well.  Mods include
only
> the minimum and are of course reversible.  Voltage regulator is pulled out
and
> Mitsubishi 1-wire alternator installed (hey guys, gimme a break, I've been
> driving it every day).  Also, Pertronix Ignitor ignition in place and car
is
> converted to neg. ground.  That done for 200 watt Quadraphonic AM/FM CD.
The
> motor is a bone stock 948cc original to the car with original smooth case
> tranny.  The engine has been throughly rebuilt and runs great.  I opted to
put
> on a Morris Minor intake manifold and a single 1.25"SU instead of the
original
> Zenith carb which I still have with the original manifold.  The tranny was
> rebuilt sometime in the recent past and shifts very well and is actually
> quiet.  I put in a 3.9 rear end to allow it to achieve freeway speed
(barely).
> Exhaust system is all new and sounds good.  Gets about 30MPG and is a fine
> little town putt-putt.  Definitely NOT a freeway car.  I have made short
trips
> on the freeway but this is not its world.  I use it for the commute to
work
> when the weather is bad enough to prefer it to the bugeye.  I've also used
it
> as a backup while the bugeye is getting his winter mods.






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From GreenBugeye at aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:31:55 EST
Subject: Re: got new MINI now Waving
To: type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/3/2004 1:07:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
type79@ix.netcom.com writes:
It is a problem to the point that many MINI owners will no longer be 
involved with classic Mini events due to the overtly negative attitude 
and actions of some older Mini owners.

I don't get it. What's the problem?
The problem is snobbery, period.  It's the same reason so many Midget and B 
and TR owners don't acknowledge Miatas -- it's like they haven't had the oil 
leaks so they haven't paid their dues so they don't get to know the secret 
handshake.  It's just stupid.  

This same phenomenon is discussed ad nauseum on the motorcycle lists.  Most 
bikers will wave when they pass each other, but Harley riders generally will 
not wave to Japanese motorcycles.  Bottom line: people who ride motorcycles of 
any kind (or sports cars of similar type) have far more in common than they do 
in difference.  Time for everybody to lighten up.

Chris Eck
(Ex) Midget
(Ex) Bugeye
(Ex) TR3A
99 M Roadster
91 CB 750






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan  3 11:44:59 2004
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
From Dave Yealy <lbc at littlebitcountry.com>
Subject: Auto Rotisserie

The other week someone asked about a Auto Rotisserie and I was just over at 
Jack Merrymans (Merryman Modifications) and took some pictures of the one 
he has with a bugeye shell attached. You can view the results here 
http://dirtyshirt.ods.org:8080/spinner/index.htm When I get a chance I'll 
get a drawing posted of the dimensions for the hangers. He said this one is 
a little bottom heavy but can still be turned by one person with a little 
effort.

Dave
60-61-61 Bugeyes






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan  3 11:45:25 2004
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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: success :>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:44:22 -0500

"Hope you guys are having the same kind of luck I am!!
Tad
69 MGC GT

Glad someone has a brake success story

Slamed
Chillicothe OH
79 Muntant Midget






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:56:00 EST
Subject: Re: got new MINI
To: type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/3/04 10:10:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
type79@ix.netcom.com writes:


> Why do some people that own older Brit cars have this negative attitude 
> towards the new MINI? 

I think Herb was talking about the drivers of the new Minis, not the new Mini 
itself.  I am sure there are a significant portion of them who buy a "cute 
car", and don't consider themselves part of the LBC group, while the group would 
welcome them along with any other LBC owner/drivers.  

--David C.






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:50:07 -0500 (EST)
To: type79@ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: got new MINI
  Jan 2004 13:06:09 -0800

"I don't get it. What's the problem?"

Indeed, jf....

Lessees, a reason which gives the benefit of doubt....

The MINI (modern) as opposed to the Mini (vintage) might be primarily
bought
by a more "current", younger generation
who might have little, if any knowledge
of the "connection" between the Mini and
other LBC's of "that" generation, and thus
would lack an appreciation of same?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:52:36 -0500 (EST)
To: type79@ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: got new MINI
  Jan 2004 13:06:09 -0800

Oooops...wait a minute!!!

Got it the wrong way' round...my bad! :(

I dunno. I wave to modern MINI owners
all 'the time. I think the new MINI is
a cool machine, most especially the "S".

I cannot imagine why older LBC'ers would
not welcome them.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan  3 13:57:46 2004
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From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: got new MINI]
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:56:47 +0000

I saw one at the gym yesterday. It had personalized tags that read "X Bunny". I think I know who it belongs to after reading the tag...

Kent
1960 Bugeye

I think Herb was talking about the drivers of the new Minis, not the new Mini itself.
--David C.






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: new MINI, old MINI
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:12:50 -0800

The first thing that struck us when we walked into the showroom was the
classic MINI front and center.  A completely original 72 1000.  The franchise
owners had searched long and hard to locate just the right one and have
undertaken a total restoration.  With only the under bonnet left to do, its a
beauty.  We (I) immediately inquired but was told its not for sale.  Too bad,
they could have sold two Minis to the same buyers.  I've not met the franchise
owners, but I think I like them already.

I got to drive it this morning (fast and fun), and Lesley is off to Sacto this
afternoon for her first freeway cruise.  She took along our 14 year old and
Bob Seeger for the CD.  I told her to at least try driving it like she
borrowed it.  She could never drive it like she stole it.  Looks like she'll
get it for now until her beloved Winifred is finished.  I'm inspired to work
even faster now so I can get my turn.

Glen






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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:57:25 -0500 (EST)
To: egoforth@bellsouth.net (Eric Goforth)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: BUGEYE SPRITE ABARTH VERY RARE NOS
  Jan 2004 08:45:27 -0500

LOL, Eric...

"Lounder Abarth"
All your Dad had to do was drive the car!

Had one of these on my '58 BE and
both my MGA's. Excellent quality with
fantastic "Grand Pre" sound!! The BE's
was raspier than hell...great sound! Even
better when decelerating on compression
after a downshift! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "PAsgeirsson" <Pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   "Jay Fishbein"
  <type79@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <13871-3FF72B94-823@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: got new MINI
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:01:15 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Hi all,

At the last All Brit Field meet in Palo Alto, Rick Feibusch had invited the
new Mini Owners club to the meet.  There were about a dozen of the new ones,
and maybe twice that of the classic Mini's.  Both groups were enthusiastic
towards each other and they had scads of good visiting times.

So, if the attendance is lagging at some of the All Brit. car festivals, get
in touch with the new Mini owners and extend an invitation to them.  They're
just as enthusiastic about their new cars as we are about our old ones.
Don't miss out in boosting attendance by being snobs.  Just because these
new ones are a British car revival, made by a German firm with Brazilian
components, doesn't mean they aren't made in England!!!

Look at our old cars.  Parts from around the globe!  Ahhhh, except Franks!!!

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
> I cannot imagine why older LBC'ers would
> not welcome them.






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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>,
   "spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: new MINI, old MINI
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:13:31 -0600

The MINI dealer in Minneapolis (a suburban mall actually) has a classic Mini
mounted sideways on the wall. It's a shell really, that they picked up from
a local sports car nut.

Not so sure about how they react to other LBCs (the Midget has been off the
road for a shamefully long time) but new MINI drivers typically go nuts for
the old Mini. I have had new MINIs chase me down for miles to check out the
original. Most have never seen one, except the "old car guys" who have
bought MINIs by the bushel as winter cars. The local Intermarque council met
this morning at my place and there were four MINIs in the lot.

Phil Vanner
Mini-appolis
'61 Midget
'74 Mini
Need something a little larger if I'm going to have another child.


-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Glen Byrns
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:13 PM
To: spridgets
Subject: new MINI, old MINI


The first thing that struck us when we walked into the showroom was the
classic MINI front and center.  A completely original 72 1000.  The
franchise
owners had searched long and hard to locate just the right one and have
undertaken a total restoration.  With only the under bonnet left to do, its
a
beauty.  We (I) immediately inquired but was told its not for sale.  Too
bad,
they could have sold two Minis to the same buyers.  I've not met the
franchise
owners, but I think I like them already.

I got to drive it this morning (fast and fun), and Lesley is off to Sacto
this
afternoon for her first freeway cruise.  She took along our 14 year old and
Bob Seeger for the CD.  I told her to at least try driving it like she
borrowed it.  She could never drive it like she stole it.  Looks like she'll
get it for now until her beloved Winifred is finished.  I'm inspired to work
even faster now so I can get my turn.

Glen






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Subject: Re: Wee tight
To: SDOliner@aol.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
From Tommy_Samuels at MARKIVAUTO.COM
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 18:05:17 -0500
  6.0.1|February 07, 2003) at 01/03/2004 06:24:43 PM

David,
The we tight method for seat covers is to either sew your own, or have them
sewn at your local upholstery shop.  I did the interior of my hot rod MGA
project for less than $40 in materials.  That includes vinyl, masonite, and
contact cement.
Add $30 worth of carpet from the local store and new interior for $70 plus
about 20 hours of my labor
67 Sprite daily driver
60 MGA hot rod project (Ford Mustang V6 w/ C3 autobox)






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From Dean Hedin <dhedin at ieee.org>
To: GreenBugeye@aol.com, type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: got new MINI now Waving
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 18:33:39 +0000
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If they were to come out with a new Sprite, I'm sure that many here would buy 
one and they would be showing up at meets.

I considered buying a new Mini.   

On Saturday 03 January 2004 06:31 pm, GreenBugeye@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/3/2004 1:07:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> type79@ix.netcom.com writes:
> It is a problem to the point that many MINI owners will no longer be
> involved with classic Mini events due to the overtly negative attitude
> and actions of some older Mini owners.
>
> I don't get it. What's the problem?






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From "WJHS1960" <wjhs1960 at comcast.net>
To: <Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM>, <SDOliner@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: Wee tight
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 18:27:18 -0600

Ed says:

<<...about 20 hours of my labor...>>

"Which would seem to be worth NOTHING, Tommy???

SORRY, but it IS, towards the VALUE of your car!!!!

Just because it IS your "hobby" does NOT lessen the TOTAL value of her.

ALL of "labor" hours SHOULD be added to your insured value!!!

My current shop rate is $65.00/hour.  That would mean (to me AND to an
insurance co).
$1,300.00!!!!!!!!!!

Makes it kinda EXPENSIVE, think??

And for those of you NOT upping their cars value EVERY year??  You ARE
nuts!!

Just figure you are in an non - bodily injury accident BUT your car is
TOTALED!

Can you REPLACE EXACTLY what you where driving for what the current value on
you car as "stated"/"agreed to"??????

Seriously DOUBT it!!!!

Regards and Happy New Year to all!!

Ed "

Ditto on the HNY to all!

Rick






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From "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at hotmail.com>
To: DLancer7676@cs.com, type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: got new MINI
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 16:37:56 -0800
  FILETIME=[FF7197F0:01C3D25A]

Correct, David.  For the most part, it's not that the new owners "...don't 
consider themselves part of the LBC group...", they aren't even AWARE there 
is such a group out there.  We need to extend the first 'wave'. (No not that 
wave....)

> > Why do some people that own older Brit cars have this negative attitude
> > towards the new MINI?
>
>I think Herb was talking about the drivers of the new Minis, not the new 
>Mini
>itself.  I am sure there are a significant portion of them who buy a "cute
>car", and don't consider themselves part of the LBC group, while the group 
>would
>welcome them along with any other LBC owner/drivers.
>
>--David C.

_________________________________________________________________
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From BCAH at aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 19:46:42 EST
Subject: bore size
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

OK, I'm a big baby and it is too cold outside.Can't get the Bugeye in a 
garage tonight.Can I measure the bore size of the master brake cyl (single line) by 
just removing the end cap where the rods go in? Or is there more to take 
apart? I need to order a kit. I built the car from a pile of parts years ago 
---------Bob C






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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:41:33 EST
Subject: 1275 fuel pump
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Quick question.Can I take the mech fuel pump off my 948 and fit it to the 
1275 engine? I got a chance to purchase a 1275 from a wreck and I see it has the 
hole in the side of the block(which has a plate over it) for a mech pump. I 
assume there would be a lobe on the cam to run this? The engine is from a Midget 
with an elec fuel pump. Any thoughts, comments, rude remarks?  Bob C in KS






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: new Mini performance
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 17:47:57 -0800

As the evening approached it became "my turn" and I took it out on a favorite
route I drive often in the bugeye.  Though I still am not totally comfortable
with the handling limits of the car,     WOW!

This little bugger is fun!  It corners almost as quick as the bugeye and is a
blast to drive.  Too much sound insulation for you to enjoy the motor sound
unless the stereo is off.  Quick acceleration, (still breaking it in so no
major reving) and excellent handling.  I think the bugeye would clean its
clock on this particular course just because of the weight difference and the
sharpness of the numerous corners, but not by much.
The suspension is very firm for a modern car and very positive steering.
Confident, flat cornering that does the heritage proud.  Not too loud with the
sunroof open, the stereo compensates automatically.  Cool.

We're both grinning ear to ear and pretty sure at the moment that we made the
right choice.

Glen and Lesley(take your time on the Morris) Byrns






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From Mike MacLean <macleans at earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: new Mini performance
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Glen,
     What suspension did you get with it.  The web site offers a variety 
of different suspensions.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite

Glen Byrns wrote:

>As the evening approached it became "my turn" and I took it out on a favorite
>route I drive often in the bugeye.  Though I still am not totally comfortable
>with the handling limits of the car,     WOW!
>
>This little bugger is fun!  It corners almost as quick as the bugeye and is a
>blast to drive.  Too much sound insulation for you to enjoy the motor sound
>unless the stereo is off.  Quick acceleration, (still breaking it in so no
>major reving) and excellent handling.  I think the bugeye would clean its
>clock on this particular course just because of the weight difference and the
>sharpness of the numerous corners, but not by much.
>The suspension is very firm for a modern car and very positive steering.
>Confident, flat cornering that does the heritage proud.  Not too loud with the
>sunroof open, the stereo compensates automatically.  Cool.
>
>We're both grinning ear to ear and pretty sure at the moment that we made the
>right choice.
>
>Glen and Lesley(take your time on the Morris) Byrns






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
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Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 19:08:20 -0800

I think the list wisdom is that the 948cc mechanical pump doesn't produce
enough volume for the 1275cc.
Try the little low pressure facet pumps from NAPA.  Cheap, long lasting,
easy to install and plenty of flow for the 1275 no matter how built up.
Glen


> Quick question.Can I take the mech fuel pump off my 948 and fit it to the
> 1275 engine? I got a chance to purchase a 1275 from a wreck and I see it
has the
> hole in the side of the block(which has a plate over it) for a mech pump.
I
> assume there would be a lobe on the cam to run this? The engine is from a
Midget
> with an elec fuel pump. Any thoughts, comments, rude remarks?  Bob C in KS






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
To: BCAH@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

--- BCAH@aol.com wrote:
> Quick question.Can I take the mech fuel pump off my
> 948 and fit it to the 
> 1275 engine?

Contrary to some, I have been using a mechanical fuel
pump on my performance 1275 street engine for 5+ years
and I love it.  It seems to be a perfect match for the
45 DCOE Weber, and the car has never had any fuel
starvation, top end fade, etc.  I use the Facet pumps
on my race car in conjunction with a Holley pressure
regulator. 

=====
Ron Soave

"Chi spende meno spende piu." 
- Aunt Tessie

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From Mike MacLean <macleans at earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
References: <169.285747c2.2d28c94d@aol.com>
  <001301c3d270$02d3a220$5512eda9@internal.vgl.ucdavis.edu>

In looking at the NAPA web site, the Facet fuel pump is listed as a Beck 
Arnley part no. 1520568 and it retails for 74 bucks.  PartsAmerica.com 
lists the same pump for $54.  ! 1/2 to 2 1/2 psi inline electric pump.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite

Glen Byrns wrote:

>I think the list wisdom is that the 948cc mechanical pump doesn't produce
>enough volume for the 1275cc.
>Try the little low pressure facet pumps from NAPA.  Cheap, long lasting,
>easy to install and plenty of flow for the 1275 no matter how built up.
>Glen
>
>
>  
>
>>Quick question.Can I take the mech fuel pump off my 948 and fit it to the
>>1275 engine? I got a chance to purchase a 1275 from a wreck and I see it
>>    
>>
>has the
>  
>
>>hole in the side of the block(which has a plate over it) for a mech pump.
>>    
>>
>I
>  
>
>>assume there would be a lobe on the cam to run this? The engine is from a
>>    
>>
>Midget
>  
>
>>with an elec fuel pump. Any thoughts, comments, rude remarks?  Bob C in KS






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To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: wouldn't feel guilty about racing this
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:52:36 -0600

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2452279103&cat
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From "Michael Carpenter" <MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com>
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Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:18:51 -0500

Advance Auto Parts has the correct facet solid state fuel pump for $35.
Check out Advance if you have one close by.

Mike C
----- Original Message -----
From "Mike MacLean" <macleans at earthlink.net>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: <BCAH@aol.com>; "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump


> In looking at the NAPA web site, the Facet fuel pump is listed as a Beck
> Arnley part no. 1520568 and it retails for 74 bucks.  PartsAmerica.com
> lists the same pump for $54.  ! 1/2 to 2 1/2 psi inline electric pump.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
>
> Glen Byrns wrote:
>
> >I think the list wisdom is that the 948cc mechanical pump doesn't produce
> >enough volume for the 1275cc.
> >Try the little low pressure facet pumps from NAPA.  Cheap, long lasting,
> >easy to install and plenty of flow for the 1275 no matter how built up.
> >Glen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Quick question.Can I take the mech fuel pump off my 948 and fit it to
the
> >>1275 engine? I got a chance to purchase a 1275 from a wreck and I see it
> >>
> >>
> >has the
> >
> >
> >>hole in the side of the block(which has a plate over it) for a mech
pump.
> >>
> >>
> >I
> >
> >
> >>assume there would be a lobe on the cam to run this? The engine is from
a
> >>
> >>
> >Midget
> >
> >
> >>with an elec fuel pump. Any thoughts, comments, rude remarks?  Bob C in
KS






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 06:56:05 -0500 (EST)
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Cc: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com, buyeye@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Minilite (type) Wheel Logos

Somebody mailed me the other day asking whether I knew where these could
be obtained. Sorry, but I forgot who this
was!

Phil in CA was kind enough to have these made up for US21.00
a shot and they came in two sizes back
when I was considering same:

margnays@enoreo.on.ca




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Mike MacLean <macleans at earthlink.net>
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   spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
References: <169.285747c2.2d28c94d@aol.com>
  <001301c3d270$02d3a220$5512eda9@internal.vgl.ucdavis.edu>
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No Advance Auto Parts Stores in Southern California that I know of.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

Michael Carpenter wrote:

>Advance Auto Parts has the correct facet solid state fuel pump for $35.
>Check out Advance if you have one close by.
>
>Mike C
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike MacLean" <macleans@earthlink.net>
>To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
>Cc: <BCAH@aol.com>; "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 11:37 PM
>Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
>
>
>  
>
>>In looking at the NAPA web site, the Facet fuel pump is listed as a Beck
>>Arnley part no. 1520568 and it retails for 74 bucks.  PartsAmerica.com
>>lists the same pump for $54.  ! 1/2 to 2 1/2 psi inline electric pump.
>>Mike MacLean
>>60 Sprite
>>
>>Glen Byrns wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I think the list wisdom is that the 948cc mechanical pump doesn't produce
>>>enough volume for the 1275cc.
>>>Try the little low pressure facet pumps from NAPA.  Cheap, long lasting,
>>>easy to install and plenty of flow for the 1275 no matter how built up.
>>>Glen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Quick question.Can I take the mech fuel pump off my 948 and fit it to
>>>>        
>>>>
>the
>  
>
>>>>1275 engine? I got a chance to purchase a 1275 from a wreck and I see it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>has the
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>hole in the side of the block(which has a plate over it) for a mech
>>>>        
>>>>
>pump.
>  
>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>assume there would be a lobe on the cam to run this? The engine is from
>>>>        
>>>>
>a
>  
>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Midget
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>with an elec fuel pump. Any thoughts, comments, rude remarks?  Bob C in
>>>>        
>>>>
>KS






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From Chris K <ckotting at wideopenwest.com>
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To: Mike MacLean <macleans@earthlink.net>
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   Glen Byrns
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Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
References: <169.285747c2.2d28c94d@aol.com> 
  <001301c3d270$02d3a220$5512eda9@internal.vgl.ucdavis.edu> 
  <3FF79891.8070707@earthlink.net> 
  <000901c3d282$3f49f9e0$49ee8641@default>
  <3FF80471.7040000@earthlink.net>

So go online www.partsamerica.com is also Advance Auto.  In fact, all 
the major parts chains have gone "clicks and mortar" (both online and 
physical stores).

Mike MacLean wrote:

>No Advance Auto Parts Stores in Southern California that I know of.
>Mike MacLean
>60 Sprite
>56 BN2
>
>Michael Carpenter wrote:






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Subject: Leaky jets??
From "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne at unc.edu>
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Good Morning and Happy New Year!

This morning I was going to write about how after 5 years off the road my
Dad and I managed to finally get my 74 midge MG running, tuned to the point
of smoothly idling and the result of a neighborhood cruise with a sh@t
eating grin on my face.  That part was awesome!

But now I have to switch topics a bit and ask why my jets are leaking???
After rebuilding the carbs myself, and then taking them apart and
reassembling, twice, I thought that I had finally traced the problem to the
rear replacement jet.  I9d spent several days trying to bring the carbs
under control.  As it turns out the silver aluminum disk that connects the
brass jet to the plastic body had a leak on the plastic side.  It didn9t
leak when the motor was running, but it didn9t run and idle well either.  My
guess is that it was drawing air in through that hole and gushing fuel into
the carb.  I9ll be calling APT tomorrow.

Anyways when I pulled that and replaced with the old one, the leak went
away, it tuned up as I was expecting/hoping and I was able to take my
neighborhood cruise.  When I shut off the jet bodies were bone dry and
behaving.

Well, dammit, a couple of hours later that new (old) jet had leaked as well,
and the forward one also (though it is mostly just wet and not dripping).
What could be going one here?  It makes no sense to me why it would start
leaking all of a sudden.  Can the system be overpressurising and pushing
fuel above the jet level?  The carbs are plumbed to the carbon canister,
which is not plugged and is plumbed to just before a new tank where it just
exits to the air.

I can provide more details if needed, but I9m totally flummoxed down here in
Chapel Hill.

Mike Gagne
Twin HS2s






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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:33:20 -0500 (EST)
To: mgagne@unc.edu (Michel R. Gagne)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget list)
Subject: Re: Leaky jets??
  2004 08:21:37 -0500

Mike...

It is a simple thing to remove the filters
and see if fuel is puddling in and around
the jet bridge after shutdown, Mike.

By the same token,
it does seem as though the fuel level is
rising after the car sits for awhile and since the bowls (not the
carbs., right?)
are connected to the EPA cannister, I
would suspect it's "free" venting ability.

I don't know enough about this part of the
emissions system as to whether there is
a one way valve in that cannister with 
respect to the vent lines running from the
bowls to the cannister, or even if one
exists, in terms of one or two-way flow.
I assume it should be a one way deal but
I don't know.

However, one way to check as to whether
the cannister is involved at all would be
to disconnect the bowl vent lines from the
cannister altegether and run the lines
"open" and see if the same problem occurs after shutdown. (Keep the
lines
clear of the exhaust system if you try
this, of course!:).

I hope APT will have some answers for
you and that you will share them so we
all learn something. Hang in there...you'll
beat it! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: Leaky jets??
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:14:37 -0000

Mike,

SUs?  Right?  Have I got the type of carb right this time?

I would suspect that the needle valve in the float chamber is not closing
off properly.  Fuel level will be a little high, but whilst the engine is
running this is being pulled through the jet and into the engine, so no
apparent leaks.  Probably running rich though.
Only when you shut down does fuel overflow the jet and drip off the bottom
of the carb.

Try cleaning the float needle valves, or replace with new.
Also check that the floats are both ok.

Guy


----- Original Message ----- 
From "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne at unc.edu>
To: "spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 1:21 PM
Subject: Leaky jets??


> Good Morning and Happy New Year!
>
> This morning I was going to write about how after 5 years off the road my
> Dad and I managed to finally get my 74 midge MG running, tuned to the
point
> of smoothly idling and the result of a neighborhood cruise with a sh@t
> eating grin on my face.  That part was awesome!
>
> But now I have to switch topics a bit and ask why my jets are leaking???
> After rebuilding the carbs myself, and then taking them apart and
> reassembling, twice, I thought that I had finally traced the problem to
the
> rear replacement jet.  I9d spent several days trying to bring the carbs
> under control.  As it turns out the silver aluminum disk that connects the
> brass jet to the plastic body had a leak on the plastic side.  It didn9t
> leak when the motor was running, but it didn9t run and idle well either.
My
> guess is that it was drawing air in through that hole and gushing fuel
into
> the carb.  I9ll be calling APT tomorrow.
>
> Anyways when I pulled that and replaced with the old one, the leak went
> away, it tuned up as I was expecting/hoping and I was able to take my
> neighborhood cruise.  When I shut off the jet bodies were bone dry and
> behaving.
>
> Well, dammit, a couple of hours later that new (old) jet had leaked as
well,
> and the forward one also (though it is mostly just wet and not dripping).
> What could be going one here?  It makes no sense to me why it would start
> leaking all of a sudden.  Can the system be overpressurising and pushing
> fuel above the jet level?  The carbs are plumbed to the carbon canister,
> which is not plugged and is plumbed to just before a new tank where it
just
> exits to the air.
>
> I can provide more details if needed, but I9m totally flummoxed down here
in
> Chapel Hill.
>
> Mike Gagne
> Twin HS2s






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References: <169.285747c2.2d28c94d@aol.com>  
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Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 11:30:07 -0500

Kragen is part of the same group.  Kragen stores are all over southern
California.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From "Chris K" <ckotting at wideopenwest.com>
To: "Mike MacLean" <macleans@earthlink.net>
Cc: "Michael Carpenter" <MAIL4CARPENTERS@peoplepc.com>; "Glen Byrns"
<grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>; <BCAH@aol.com>; "spridgets"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump


> So go online www.partsamerica.com is also Advance Auto.  In fact, all
> the major parts chains have gone "clicks and mortar" (both online and
> physical stores).
>
> Mike MacLean wrote:
>
> >No Advance Auto Parts Stores in Southern California that I know of.
> >Mike MacLean
> >60 Sprite
> >56 BN2



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Subject: Pressure regulator suggestion
From "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne at unc.edu>
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Hi all,
Can anybody suggest a reliable and inexpensive fuel pressure regulator for
my 74 midget.  
Thanks,
Mike Gagne






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From James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Speedo Identification
To: Spridgets Digest <spridgets-digest@autox.team.net>

Sticker labelled 272 on back of a speedometer. Is this one from a 3.7 rear end?


Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
Dayton, OH

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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
To: I-Race@yahoogroups.com, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Yahoo
  Spridget list <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: I LOVE flea markets (LBC content included)
  FILETIME=[13205990:01C3D2FA]

So has anyone heard of an MK
Powered  auto battery. They
are a non-spillable lead acid
gel battery, made in Anaheim,
CA. These don't even have the
purchase date and month popped
out on them!! They have the
top posts, with a hole through
it for a bolt on connection,
and round enough for a clamp
as well. The dimensions are 9"
wide x 5.5" deep x 8" tall. I
have no idea what the cold
cranking amps are, but they
sure do spin up a Sprite
engine well. And for $10 each,
new, I HAD to buy two. Get out
to your local flea market
(second hand sales for those
overseas) and yard sales as
often as you can, you never
know WHAT you will find!!






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>,
   "spridget list"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 15:03:03 -0500

Sure, Mike.  It's called an SU model AUF-300 fuel pump and it works
incredibly well (sorry for being a smart-ass...just couldn't resist).  They
offer them now with solid state internals, if you feel uncomfortable with
the original set-up.  They deliver the precise pressure and volume your SU
carbs were designed to operate with.
Bud Osbourne (38 years of trouble-free, SU pump supplied, MG motoring)

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Michel R. Gagne
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 2:29 PM
To: spridget list
Subject: Pressure regulator suggestion


Hi all,
Can anybody suggest a reliable and inexpensive fuel pressure regulator for
my 74 midget.
Thanks,
Mike Gagne






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   "spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <NGBBKOMNILJCEADKHKJOGEFFEDAA.abcoz@hky.com>
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 15:57:03 -0500

For what it's worth, I'm running a Facet electric pump (the same as has been
discussed here recently) SU carbs and no regulator, both on the Mini and the
Meejit.  Never a problem unless the carb float hangs up....

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>; "spridget list"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion


> Sure, Mike.  It's called an SU model AUF-300 fuel pump and it works
> incredibly well (sorry for being a smart-ass...just couldn't resist).  They
> offer them now with solid state internals, if you feel uncomfortable with
> the original set-up.  They deliver the precise pressure and volume your SU
> carbs were designed to operate with.
> Bud Osbourne (38 years of trouble-free, SU pump supplied, MG motoring)






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Subject: Re: Wee tight
To: "WJHS1960" <wjhs1960@comcast.net>
Cc: SDOliner@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
From Tommy_Samuels at MARKIVAUTO.COM
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 15:43:46 -0500
  6.0.1|February 07, 2003) at 01/04/2004 04:07:25 PM

Since it's my hobby and I take huge pleasure from doing things myself, I
don't count my labor value.
When I do a car, I do everything I can myself.  That includes rebuilding
engines, trannies, bodywork, paint, upholstery, electrical, etc. You name
it, I do it.
I have friends that have "restored" cars themselves, yet when I ask
qestions, their portion of the restoration consisted of writing checks and
occasionally putting something on the car.
That doesn't appeal to me.  Besides, the sweat equity allows me to have a
nice toy for about 1/3 or less of the cash outlay.




                                                                                                               
                      "WJHS1960"                                                                               
                      <wjhs1960@comcast        To:       <Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM>, <SDOliner@aol.com>    
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                                               Subject:  Re: Wee tight                                         
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Ed says:

<<...about 20 hours of my labor...>>

"Which would seem to be worth NOTHING, Tommy???

SORRY, but it IS, towards the VALUE of your car!!!!

Just because it IS your "hobby" does NOT lessen the TOTAL value of her.

ALL of "labor" hours SHOULD be added to your insured value!!!

My current shop rate is $65.00/hour.  That would mean (to me AND to an
insurance co).
$1,300.00!!!!!!!!!!

Makes it kinda EXPENSIVE, think??

And for those of you NOT upping their cars value EVERY year??  You ARE
nuts!!

Just figure you are in an non - bodily injury accident BUT your car is
TOTALED!

Can you REPLACE EXACTLY what you where driving for what the current value
on
you car as "stated"/"agreed to"??????

Seriously DOUBT it!!!!

Regards and Happy New Year to all!!

Ed "

Ditto on the HNY to all!

Rick






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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'Mike MacLean'" <macleans@earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: 1275 fuel pump
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:09:42 -0800

Do you still get the lifetime replacement at any NAPA store?
		Crash

In looking at the NAPA web site, the Facet fuel pump is listed as a Beck

Arnley part no. 1520568 and it retails for 74 bucks.  PartsAmerica.com 
lists the same pump for $54.  ! 1/2 to 2 1/2 psi inline electric pump.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
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References: <OFA86B6C46.B21C15C2-ON85256E11.007123F6@markivauto.com>
Subject: Re: Wee tight
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 15:31:57 -0600

> I have friends that have "restored" cars themselves, yet when I ask
> qestions, their portion of the restoration consisted of writing checks and
> occasionally putting something on the car.

Reminds me of the fine work of Trevor Boicey at
http://www.brit.ca/~tboicey/comics/practical_jaguar.html

I wish that I had the time and expertise to do everything myself, but I have
to pick and choose. Besides, I have to end up with time to drive it, too. We
can't all be Frank, some of us have to be Ernest.
David Lieb






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From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: V-8 Bugeye F/S
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:33:07 +0000

Found while surfing:

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/4/4/62542644.htm

NFI,
Kent
1960 Bugeye






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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Subject: No spark at points????
  FILETIME=[0D232AF0:01C3D30D]

I put the new battery in the
car, start it up. I have not
started it since early Dec. It
runs, but it is missing, and I
have to play the accelerator
to keep it going. Then, is
just dies. It will turn over,
but it will not start. I
remove the distributor cap,
and I am not getting any spark
at the points. I went through
all the steps in Bentley's
"finding a fault in the low
tension circuit" and
everything checks out ok, but
still, NO SPARK! There is even
voltage across the points,
this is crazy........
Any other ideas?


Brad (not quite as happy now)
Fornal






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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 17:26:39 -0500 (EST)
To: Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM
Cc: wjhs1960@comcast.net (WJHS1960), SDOliner@aol.com,
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Wee tight
  15:43:46 -0500

Tomster...

I used to do a lot of the work myself as
well, including engine rebuilds. Then
the house got sold and I lost the garage,
tool storage space, etc.

However, I just this past summer found an
outside place to work in. So at least I can
do the bodywork again (on reasonably decent days) along with some
minor mechanical stuff as well as there
is not much space to store tools. It IS
nice to be able to get back into it, again.

Thems the breaks!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: Wee tight
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:40:30 -0600

Cap'n. Bob
I have frequently wondered about that. On the one hand, you dispense volumes
of technical prose. On the other hand, you talk blithely about running out
to get your oil changed. Hard for me to reconcile the two...
David Lieb






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Thread-Topic: Austin A35 MPG
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Yeah, but our gallons are smaller over here, so fewer miles per. ;)
 
-=Chris



 	  	 From: Guy Weller
Sent: 1/3/2004 1:13:45 PM
To: grbyrns@ucdavis.edu;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Austin A35 details 


Should definately get more than 30mpg though. I would expect 40 +, 
especially with that higher back axle ratio. 

Guy 

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:54 PM 
Subject: Austin A35 details 


>> Exhaust system is all new and sounds good. Gets about 30MPG and is a
fine 
> little town putt-putt. 	






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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 17:39:42 -0500 (EST)
To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne), mgagne@unc.edu (Michel R. Gagne),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget list)
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
  Jan 2004 15:57:03 -0500

Well...

I also run a low pressure Facet using the stock SU's with no problems.

However, Facets come in different pressure ratings. With the higher
pressure ones, one may very well have to use a
pressure regulator. Had such a set-up
on my PO'd Vizardized 1340 using a
45DCOE. The engine was 100HP+, but
the carb liked 1-2psi.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 17:41:47 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: mgagne@unc.edu (Michel R. Gagne),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget
  	list)
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
  15:03:03 -0500

AUF-300 Electronic

And the going price would be........?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: K&N  filters

Hello spridgets,

      ok, i received the carb stacks (from huffaker!) with plans to
      put them inside the stock air cleaners. the problem is the bolts
      that hold the air cleaners on won't make it past the flare of
      the stacks..(you ALL probably knew that already.. DUH!) so it
      looks like i'll have to go with K$N filters. ... i've looked on
      the aptfast websight and see two different styles,

      6" round, 3 1/4" tall cylindrical .... and
      5 7/8" base, 3 1/2" top 2" high CONE type.

      my stacks are 1 1/2" tall  ... .. ..

      now the questions.. WHICH to get? .. do i need more clearance
      than the 1/2" of the cone? ... will the 6" cylindrical FIT the
      dual carb set up? ..lacking VIZARD,(to tell me) will this
      length stack help top or midrange power?

      ????????????????????????????????????????????????????

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   '66 Sprite






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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 17:55:51 -0500 (EST)
To: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: Wee tight
  4 Jan 2004 16:40:30 -0600

Well...

Now you know why, Dave. :):) 

I live in a condo complex these days. There are a lot of things I used
to do that
one cannot do today. Many, many years
ago I actually used to do bodywork and
spray painting (cans) right out in the
back parking area away from other cars
during the day.

EPA laws have come into effect since
then along with a bunch of other laws
regarding oil/antifreeze and a bunch of
other stuff. Even at the garage I got
subsequently, we did quite a bit of car
work outside, including spray painting.

Can't do that today without someone
calling the cops!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: got new MINI
From Dave Franks <franks at teleport.com>
To: PAsgeirsson <Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net>
CC: <spridgets@autox.team.net>

on 1/3/04 2*01 PM, PAsgeirsson at Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net wrote:


> 
> Look at our old cars.  Parts from around the globe!  Ahhhh, except Franks!!!

Paul, I assume you are talking about Frank C. Since you saw my car at the
Portland Historics I'm sure you recall my Weber (Italy) Suzuki Radiator
(Japan), and GM Alternator (USA).  ;-)

Globalization is alive and well in Spridgetville.

Dave Franks
franks@teleport.com
67 Sprite Vintage Racer






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>,
   "spridget 	list"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:11:05 -0500

I'm afraid I haven't priced one, lately, as the old style (points) ones that
I run have been totally dependable.  Used to be around $100-$125, however.
I know the Facets were significantly cheaper.  I like to stick with the O.E.
stuff, when I can still get it.  Since availability of O.E. stuff is
significantly better for Brit cars than it is for, shall we say, German
classics, I feel rather blessed and like to take advantage of still being
able to get "the good stuff".  If we don't ask for and purchase the "good
stuff" when it is made available to us, at a reasonable price (a very
relative term, I realize), we have only ourselves to blame when "good stuff"
is no longer available because we've fallen for the "pacific rim" junk.  No,
I'm not classifying Facet as pacific rim junk.  I'm just trying to make a
point.

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 5:42 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Michel R. Gagne; spridget list
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion


AUF-300 Electronic

And the going price would be........?




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:11:41 -0500 (EST)
To: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: K&N  filters
  14:48:34 -0800

Bill...

Suggest you kill two birds with a single
rock with a phone call to Dave Anton
(APT) and explain your situation to him.

And while you're at it, order "the book".
You'll be glad you did, really! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan  4 16:13:29 2004
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From Mike MacLean <macleans at earthlink.net>
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To: Chris K <ckotting@wideopenwest.com>
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   Glen Byrns
  <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>, BCAH@aol.com,
   spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
References: <169.285747c2.2d28c94d@aol.com> 
  <001301c3d270$02d3a220$5512eda9@internal.vgl.ucdavis.edu> 
  <3FF79891.8070707@earthlink.net> 
  <000901c3d282$3f49f9e0$49ee8641@default>
  <3FF80471.7040000@earthlink.net> <3FF80B0D.6070804@wideopenwest.com>

If you saw my first email you would have known that I went to 
PartsAmerica first.  The only fuel pump I could find there is the $53 
Beck Arnley.  If you have a link to the Advance Auto Parts part number 
(excuse me, PartsAmerica) for the cheaper Facet pump, I would appreciate 
you forwarding it along.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

Chris K wrote:

> So go online www.partsamerica.com is also Advance Auto.  In fact, all 
> the major parts chains have gone "clicks and mortar" (both online and 
> physical stores).
>
> Mike MacLean wrote:
>
>> No Advance Auto Parts Stores in Southern California that I know of.
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
>>
>> Michael Carpenter wrote:






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan  4 16:26:30 2004
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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[2]: K&N  filters
References: <12625922133.20040104144834@pacifier.com>
  <004401c3d319$854153c0$8500a8c0@finnland>

Hello David,

       i had thought about something like your first method, using the
       stock elements and cans, but hadn't figured out how to keep the
       filters in place while i bolted the cans to the base plates..
       maybe some (light) glue? .. just to hold them there... would
       then have to also seal the original holes in the stock cans
       with (tape? silicone?) something... afraid that would look
       HOKEY tho.. thus the idea of K&Ns. ..

       ease of installation, and looks, being important too!

       DL> Bill,
DL> Yup, that was what prompted my questions.
DL> I have decided that if I should end up in your shoes, I would drill a new
DL> set of holes through the base plates out near the inside edge of the filter
DL> elements, insert the bolts from the back, slide the sleeves onto the bolts,
DL> bolt the stacks to the face of the carburetor, through the base plates of
DL> the air-cleaner housings and then drill matching holes in a pair of quart
DL> paint can lids (or similar, to fit) and attach them with nuts to the end of
DL> the bolts. Wing nuts, maybe. I would hate to lose the lovely big filter
DL> elements (yes, they are K&N).
DL> If I got the stub stacks that APT sells, I would use a piece of all-thread
DL> through the stubs into the carbs with a nut to hold the stub down and
DL> another nut to hold the filter together. Or else just do it the first way to
DL> minimize turbulence near the carb mouth.
DL> David

        

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com






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CC: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
References: <BC1DD399.C34F%mgagne@unc.edu>

Michel R. Gagne wrote:

> Hi all,
> Can anybody suggest a reliable and inexpensive fuel pressure regulator for
> my 74 midget.  

I use a $20 Purolator fuel regulator.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:43:13 -0500 (EST)
To: macleans@earthlink.net (Mike MacLean)
Cc: ckotting@wideopenwest.com (Chris K),
   MAIL4CARPENTERS@peoplepc.com (Michael 	Carpenter),
   grbyrns@ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns), BCAH@aol.com,
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump
  Jan 2004 15:12:15 -0800

Mike...

If you do a web search on Facet Electric
Fuel Pumps, you will find aircraft parts
suppliers that sell these for $46.00 or so.

They also sell the filters for them and other parts for them as well. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: 30 years of love!
References: <000301c3d0f3$d416cc00$71f945cf@fred>

Charles Christ wrote:
>    yes!  i buy presents for the car! 

I love Ron's present to his Miata a couple Christmases ago.
He bought it a For Sale sign :)

PIECES (or at least parts of it and the chassis ID) have been mine since 
1972, before that it was my Dad's. He bought it in 69.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:45:10 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: mgagne@unc.edu (Michel R. Gagne),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget
  	list)
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
  18:11:05 -0500

Well, Bud....

Go to the Moss sight and price this
electronic puppy!! I'm sure it's a fine
pump....but!! :):) 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: Wee tight piano hinge, seat belt webbing& seat covers
References: <193.2445b11d.2d273918@aol.com>

SDOliner@aol.com wrote:

> Need an accelerator pedal for the 69 Midget. Or is there a wee tight way to 
> do this?

Small hinge from the hardware store. You can redrill the one side to fit 
the floor holes and use 2 small screws with nuts at the pedal.

> Has any just replaced the seat belt webbing in their interia reel belts?

VW back seat belts. late 80s/early 90s GTI, GOLF, and Jetta.
You have to remove the tilt ball NOT the inertia ball.
Now they will mount horizonally and they work real nice.

> Is there a wee tight way to get seats covered?

Upholstry shops charge less than you can buy the pre made covers.
My guy was getting $100 a seat last time I had a set done. He supplied 
everything and all I did was tell him how I wanted them to look.
Color, piping, style. He even painted the frames.

And for the really tight group, Pepboys sells genuine sheepskin seat 
covers for a few bucks. These thing really look like sh*!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan  4 16:55:21 2004
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To: "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>,
   <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <1ba27d01c3d313$1cdd2440$2801010a@mail2world.com>
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:54:07 -0000

Hah!But not 25% smaller!

I guess your miles must be longer to!

Guy
;-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>; <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>;
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG


> Yeah, but our gallons are smaller over here, so fewer miles per. ;)
>
> -=Chris
>
>
>
>     From: Guy Weller
> Sent: 1/3/2004 1:13:45 PM
> To: grbyrns@ucdavis.edu;spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Austin A35 details
>
>
> Should definately get more than 30mpg though. I would expect 40 +,
> especially with that higher back axle ratio.
>
> Guy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glen Byrns"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:54 PM
> Subject: Austin A35 details
>
>
> >> Exhaust system is all new and sounds good. Gets about 30MPG and is a
> fine
> > little town putt-putt.






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Subject: Re: Wee tight
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Robert E. Shlafer wrote:


> Can't do that today without someone
> calling the cops!! :)

Wanna bet? Offer to paint the cop's car :)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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To: "Dave Franks" <franks@teleport.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <BC1DDCDD.ADA%franks@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: got new MINI
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 15:56:27 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Yup!  It's the Clarici Frank!

Pa

-----
From "Dave Franks" <franks at teleport.com>
Subject: Re: got new MINI


> on 1/3/04 2*01 PM, PAsgeirsson at Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Look at our old cars.  Parts from around the globe!  Ahhhh, except
Franks!!!
>
> Paul, I assume you are talking about Frank C. Since you saw my car at the
> Portland Historics I'm sure you recall my Weber (Italy) Suzuki Radiator
> (Japan), and GM Alternator (USA).  ;-)
>
> Globalization is alive and well in Spridgetville.
>
> Dave Franks
> franks@teleport.com
> 67 Sprite Vintage Racer






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To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: V-8 Bugeye F/S
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:56:14 -0000

View looks pretty "modified" as it is.

Guy 

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: V-8 Bugeye F/S


> Found while surfing:
> 
> http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/4/4/62542644.htm
> 
> NFI,
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye






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   Yahoo Spridget list
  <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: No spark at points????
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Brad

Sounds like a loose connection.
Check the insulator around the post on the points where the wires go.
Check that little black wire in the dizzy.
Check for a loose rivet on the coil where the low tension wires go.
You may have a bum condenser.
Hot wire it direct incase you have a bad ignition switch or ign wire to 
the coil. hot side of battery to hot side of coil.


-- 
Frank Clarici
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To: "Jay Fishbein" <type79@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Austin A35 details
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:10:03 -0800

Sorry for the false heads-up on the sale of Austin Powerless.
We stood in the drive way this morning and surveyed the fleet.  With the van
gone and the visiting Toyota off to charity, we now have the '59 bugeye, 59
Morris Traveller, 58 Austin A35 and the new Mini as our practical car ( I
bust out laughing and grinning every time I say that), it looks so much like
a complete set that Lesley told me not to sell the Austin.  Its worth little
compared to a bugeye or Traveller, but it completes the circle of
relationship of the whole group(accepting the new Mini as a stand-in for the
Austin-Morris Mini).

They look so good all parked together that it would be wrong to break up the
set.  With the change of seasons and needs, we should both get turns on the
new Mini and I have the Austin to back me up while I get into upgrading
bugeye.

Glen


> Glen,
> Would it be possible to see some pics of this car? Also what is the
> asking price and location?
> Thanks,
> jay






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Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:18:52 -0600

Well, our miles are certainly longer than your kilometers...
David Lieb






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  <00bf01c3d31e$5f08d5c0$0300a8c0@office>

PAsgeirsson wrote:

> Yup!  It's the Clarici Frank!

>>>Look at our old cars.  Parts from around the globe!  

> my Weber (Italy) Suzuki Radiator
>>(Japan), and GM Alternator (USA).  ;-)
>>
>>Globalization is alive and well in Spridgetville.

Who me? What with my Datsun tranny, Geo Metro radiator, Isuzu dizzy,
Subaru Alternator, Taiwan lamp rubbers, VW seatbelts, and my Italian Carb ;)
Now when I don my chinese sneakers, put on my Italian designer sweater 
made in Sri Lanka, and plug in some British musicians on my chinese tape 
player, fill up with Iraqi gas, I hit the road in my English car 
restored in America on American roads paved by Mexicans.
Now THAT is Globalization!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz@hky.com>, "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>,
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Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:21:26 -0500

The Capn's right.  They always ask me at the parts counter if I want the low or
high pressure.  Seems as though the high is for FI?

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
Cc: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz@hky.com>; "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>;
"spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion


> Well...
>
> I also run a low pressure Facet using the stock SU's with no problems.
>
> However, Facets come in different pressure ratings. With the higher
> pressure ones, one may very well have to use a
> pressure regulator. Had such a set-up
> on my PO'd Vizardized 1340 using a
> 45DCOE. The engine was 100HP+, but
> the carb liked 1-2psi.
>
>
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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From "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller at kencomp.net>
To: "David Lieb" <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <1ba27d01c3d313$1cdd2440$2801010a@mail2world.com> 
  <003001c3d31e$0b65b3c0$3800000a@guy>
  <006f01c3d321$7fc982c0$8500a8c0@finnland>
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 00:24:22 -0000

Excuse me Sir!
We do DO NOT have Kilometers in the UK

One of the few measures that are still in Imperial.
(I LIKE that word)

Guy

----- Original Message ----- 
From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG


> Well, our miles are certainly longer than your kilometers...
> David Lieb






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Subject: Cooling my leaky jets
From "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne at unc.edu>
To: <pxlsmith@softcom.net>
CC: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

>> Happy New Years Gerard,
>> 
>> Hi Mike, Happy New Year to you as well. Sorry I'm slow getting back to you,
>> but I've been busy the last few days didn't have a chance to reply.
>> 
>> It seems from you recent post that you solved most of your problems, so I'll
>> refrain from addressing all your questions.
>> 
>> As to the leak situation:
>> 
>> Which fuel pimp are you using?
>> What kind of float shut off valves did you use?
>> Did you adjust the float levels for the new valves? There is a procedure in
>> the shop manual, but if you followed that and it's still not right, try
>> dropping them  slightly lower.
>> 
>> Gerard
> 
> 

Thanks to Gerard and others:

Couple more points on the leaky jets.  I changed from GrossJets to
ball-valves.  I've never used the ball valves before.  Do they seal as well?

I will try to lower the float level and see how that goes.

I'm using an after-market pump that the PO put on.  From what I can tell it
is a "Carter Import Vehicle Electric Fuel Pump", P-60132.  I'm not sure how
to find out more about this particular pump.  Like I said it is 20+ years
old.

Mike Gagne
Chapel Hill, NC






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From "PAsgeirsson" <Pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: "Dave Franks" <franks@teleport.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Globalizarion
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:40:55 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Ooooops!  Apparently they make pretty good sneakers!!!  LOL!!

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at exit109.com>
To: "PAsgeirsson" <Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: "Dave Franks" <franks@teleport.com>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:11 PM
Subject: Globalizarion


> PAsgeirsson wrote:
>
> > Yup!  It's the Clarici Frank!
>
> >>>Look at our old cars.  Parts from around the globe!
>
> > my Weber (Italy) Suzuki Radiator
> >>(Japan), and GM Alternator (USA).  ;-)
> >>
> >>Globalization is alive and well in Spridgetville.
>
> Who me? What with my Datsun tranny, Geo Metro radiator, Isuzu dizzy,
> Subaru Alternator, Taiwan lamp rubbers, VW seatbelts, and my Italian Carb
;)
> Now when I don my chinese sneakers, put on my Italian designer sweater
> made in Sri Lanka, and plug in some British musicians on my chinese tape
> player, fill up with Iraqi gas, I hit the road in my English car
> restored in America on American roads paved by Mexicans.
> Now THAT is Globalization!
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: Globalizarion
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:42:39 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Ooooops!  Apparently Frank knows where pretty good sneakers are made!!!
LOL!!

Pa


----- Original Message ----- 
From "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at exit109.com>
To: "PAsgeirsson" <Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: "Dave Franks" <franks@teleport.com>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:11 PM
Subject: Globalizarion


> PAsgeirsson wrote:
>
> > Yup!  It's the Clarici Frank!
>
> >>>Look at our old cars.  Parts from around the globe!
>
> > my Weber (Italy) Suzuki Radiator
> >>(Japan), and GM Alternator (USA).  ;-)
> >>
> >>Globalization is alive and well in Spridgetville.
>
> Who me? What with my Datsun tranny, Geo Metro radiator, Isuzu dizzy,
> Subaru Alternator, Taiwan lamp rubbers, VW seatbelts, and my Italian Carb
;)
> Now when I don my chinese sneakers, put on my Italian designer sweater
> made in Sri Lanka, and plug in some British musicians on my chinese tape
> player, fill up with Iraqi gas, I hit the road in my English car
> restored in America on American roads paved by Mexicans.
> Now THAT is Globalization!
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "Rick" <webmasterrick at comcast.net>
To: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz@hky.com>, "Robert E. Shlafer"
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Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:14:13 -0600

<<I'm just trying to make a point. >>

Ed says, Bud:

"And a VERY good one, Bud!!

The Wee Tight crap really SHOULD come to somewhat of a halt.

As all know I sell parts.  I also LOVE and DRive a Big Healey (even tho
Frogeyes are my FIRST "love").

Want to know what LEFTOVER BROWN repo 6 cylinder distributor caps are going
for??

Minimum = $50.00.

Want a Lucas REPRO???  $100.00.

 NOS Lucas??  Will NOT EVEN guess what I can get for the one I HAVE!

If even the reproduced stuff is NOT purchased, guess what will occur?

That question does NOT even need an answer.  <VBF>!

Happy New Year to ALL!!

Ed"

Ditto on the Happy New Year all!

Rick

PS:  Can an OSHIT tune-up be arranged for Hortense with "Team Members" bring
the parts for FREE??  er, maybe at 'cost' ?






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From "WJHS1960" <wjhs1960 at comcast.net>
To: <Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM>
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Subject: Re: Wee tight
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:30:14 -0600

Tommy:

Ed say:

Tommy, whilst I do NOT argue the

<<Since it's my hobby and I take huge pleasure from doing things myself,>>

Part, I DO argue the

<< I don't count my labor value.>>

part.

YOU simply CANNOT get an insurence Co. to give what the car is WORTH AFTER
your "labor" is included.

i.e., car in currently "valued" at $4000.  You put you interior in WITHOUT
adding the materials AND your labor and THEN changing the value of the car
to $5300+.

If you even THINK any insurence company is going to TRUST you that the NEW
$5300 is "correct" then you have simply (as Brits might say<G>)  G O N E
'round the bend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who WILL lose??

Trust me, it will NOT be the insurence company!!

Comment, Jay??

Happy New Year ALL!!!

ED"

Ditto!

Jason






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>,
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Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:31:18 -0500

Moss?  Not I.  At least, not unless I'm pretty desperate.  Sounds like you
have recent price knowledge.  What was the latest price?  Of course, I still
use the points type unit and really have no reason to change.
BTW, I'm heading to the garage for a few hours, so I'll be off line for the
rest of the evening.  Besides a beetle frame repair and a Porsche 356 floor
pan repair, Mini and the knuckleheads demand my attention, having elected to
stay in out of the rain today.  Damn cats seem to be a bit smarter than we
are.
Bud

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 6:45 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Michel R. Gagne; spridget list
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion


Well, Bud....

Go to the Moss sight and price this
electronic puppy!! I'm sure it's a fine
pump....but!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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Subject: exhaust header question
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:32:27 -0600

I just bought a header to replace the cracked origional one.   The pipe
protrudes about 0.060" past the flange,  the old cast iron exhaust was
flush.  I am wonder ing if this is going to cause a leak.   Can those of you
who have headers tell me if yours protruded  or were they flush?   I need to
know if I should send it back?

Vince Gulley
1078 Midget 1500






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Vizard $22.99 (was Re: K&N  filters
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>, Bill L
  <pythias@pacifier.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net> wrote:
> And while you're at it, order "the book".
> You'll be glad you did, really! :)
 
BTW, my fav shopping website has Vizard on sale for
$22.99:

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=SEARCH&SEC_IID=1412&SITEAREA=0&KEYWORD=vizard



=====
Ron Soave

"Chi spende meno spende piu." 
- Aunt Tessie

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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
To: "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>,
   spridget list
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Can anybody suggest a reliable and inexpensive fuel
> pressure regulator for
> my 74 midget.  
> Thanks,
> Mike Gagne

Mike,
There are regulators and there are restrictors.  The
dial kind are merely orifice restrictors, so depending
on the fuel demand/flowrate, the pressure drop will
differ, so it will not regulate pressure, it will just
reduce it.  The real regulators use downstream
feedback on a diaphragm or a piston with a specific
area ratio relationship to modulate a valve and
maintain a (nearly) constant downstream pressure (all
regulators have "droop").  The Holley type regulator
is around $30, I think, from Pegasusautoracing.com,
and can probably be found cheaper.  You can set your
pressure by trial and error, but I tee'd in a gauge to
mine for a "known" reference.    

=====
Ron Soave

"Chi spende meno spende piu." 
- Aunt Tessie

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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan  4 19:31:13 2004
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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Guy Weller <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>
CC: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG
References: <1ba27d01c3d313$1cdd2440$2801010a@mail2world.com>  
  <003001c3d31e$0b65b3c0$3800000a@guy> 
  <006f01c3d321$7fc982c0$8500a8c0@finnland>
  <007101c3d322$44cde980$3800000a@guy>

Guy Weller wrote:

> Excuse me Sir!
> We do DO NOT have Kilometers in the UK

YOU tell em Guy!!
Any measurements us Americans have is all due to the English.
Remember, we are an English settled colony.
Pounds, Ounces, pints, quarts, gallons, inches, feet, yards, miles.
It is so simple, based on who knows what. Now compare these measurments 
to some way out metric system based on an even 10. How could anybody 
understand that?
That is why you won't find metric bolts on our cars.
I wish I could say that about my Ford.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
References: <20040105021602.99476.qmail@web11706.mail.yahoo.com>

Ron Soave wrote:

>  The real regulators use downstream
> feedback on a diaphragm or a piston with a specific
> area ratio relationship to modulate a valve and
> maintain a (nearly) constant downstream pressure (all
> regulators have "droop").  


Speak english boy!






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Thread-Topic: Wee tight
From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
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Subject: Re: Wee tight
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:37:44 -0800
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Well, I guess I can't complain. I've been doing my resto under a birch
tree in my back yard, including priming the shell with spray can
primer.. No one's complained yet, even when I fired up the beast with
nothin' but a header on 'er. ;)  It helps that the guy who lives two
houses down the street seems to be doing a similar project. Last summer
I heard a Mustang with open pipes running in that general vicinity! ;)
 
-=Chris
( a garage would be soooo sweet this time of year!)

Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: 1/4/2004 5:58:51 PM
To: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Wee tight 

Well... 

Now you know why, Dave. :):) 

I live in a condo complex these days. There are a lot of things I used 
to do that 
one cannot do today. Many, many years 
ago I actually used to do bodywork and 
spray painting (cans) right out in the 
back parking area away from other cars 
during the day. 

EPA laws have come into effect since 
then along with a bunch of other laws 
regarding oil/antifreeze and a bunch of 
other stuff. Even at the garage I got 
subsequently, we did quite a bit of car 
work outside, including spray painting. 

Can't do that today without someone 
calling the cops!! :) 




Cap'n. Bob 
'60 :{) 






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To: "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>
CC: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Cooling my leaky jets
References: <BC1E1C9E.C376%mgagne@unc.edu>

Michel R. Gagne wrote:

>  I changed from GrossJets to
> ball-valves.  I've never used the ball valves before.  

Wait a minute. Gross jets ARE ball valves. SU float valves are needle 
valves.
I tried gross jets twice (ball valves) and they gave me a headache 
twice. So I always use needle valves. They still give me a headache 
every now and then but not like the Gross jets.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <spritenut@exit109.com>, <SDOliner@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: Wee tight piano hinge, seat belt webbing& seat covers
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Or try to nick one from a 1500. Pendant style, bolts right in.
 
-=Chris


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Frank Clarici
Sent: 1/4/2004 6:53:22 PM
To: SDOliner@aol.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Wee tight piano hinge, seat belt webbing& seat covers 

SDOliner@aol.com wrote: 

> Need an accelerator pedal for the 69 Midget. Or is there a wee tight
way to 
> do this? 

Small hinge from the hardware store. You can redrill the one side to fit
the floor holes and use 2 small screws with nuts at the pedal. 






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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <spritenut@exit109.com>, <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>
Cc: <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:47:47 -0800
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Wasn't the metric system thought up by the French? (flame suit on)
 
Guy, 1 gal (UK) =1.2 gal (US), so about 20% smaller. :) But one of these
days, I'd like to make a trip over the pond and have a REAL pint of
beer! (the 20% bigger ones!) :)
 
-=Chris
 

 	  	 From: Frank Clarici
Sent: 1/4/2004 9:32:15 PM
To: Guy.Weller@kencomp.net
Cc: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG 

Guy Weller wrote: 

> Excuse me Sir! 
> We do DO NOT have Kilometers in the UK 

YOU tell em Guy!! 
Any measurements us Americans have is all due to the English. 
Remember, we are an English settled colony. 
Pounds, Ounces, pints, quarts, gallons, inches, feet, yards, miles. 
It is so simple, based on who knows what. Now compare these measurments 
to some way out metric system based on an even 10. How could anybody 
understand that? 
That is why you won't find metric bolts on our cars. 
I wish I could say that about my Ford. 

-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
Back up to too many sprites again. 
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/ 


	
Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: LBC Art
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:33:38 -0600

For those of you who do not frequent the pages of www.mgcars.org, I would
like to share this url: http://fp.furzedown.plus.com/pictures.htm .
This is the work of Nick, one of the regulars on that site. I absolutely
love it. Ain't that Bentley something?!
David Lieb






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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Subject: Bone Stock Bugeye

I am just rambling on here but I just realized that I am restoring my 
very first bone stock 948 smooth case bugeye.
I took a bunch apart and I put a bunch back together but never bone stock!

My yellow Bugeye is all buffed up and the paint turned out great.
On to stuff like a slave cylinder, I have a few 1" bore slaves ready to 
go for the 1275s but none ready for a 948.
Stock steering wheel. Wow, What a monster! and it needed work too but is 
going to look just fine now that all the cracks are filled in and the 
flex paint is drying.
The engine runs fine but it was dirty, I cleaned it tonight and as soon 
as it's dry I will paint it Morris green.
Now onto the exhaust.....I have 2 new 1275 flanged exhaust pipes in 
stock, and a few 1275 flanged manifolds, should I just use what I have 
or do the stock 948 pipe with the funky clamp? My way would be better ;)
The car will retain it's disc brakes so it's not "bone" stock.
I even prewired the car for the electric fuel pump out of routine 
because I do it all the time. But this 948 has a nice working stock 
mechanical AC fuel pump. I have cleaned it up and tested it not even 
realizing that Bugeyes never had electric pumps. Infact, I think the 
electric pump is still bolted under the car. The wire from the back is 
still there, I just added a white wire to the dash harness for it.
Generator or alternator? I have a few of each to choose from. I even 
have a couple tach drives for the generator.
I am leaning towards generator. But do I want to give up my NOS tach 
cable, NOS Lucas regulator (old) and a tach drive generator that's worth 
1/2 as much as the whole car? I was saving all this stuff for the 
concours car I *might* do if I found the correct candidate.

What do you folks think?
Should I do it almost bone stock?
Or should I make it a stock driver with an alternator and better exhaust?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: Bone Stock Bugeye
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:11:02 -0800
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The question you gotta ask yourself is (since you're planning on selling
the car soon), will the selling price of the car go up significanlty
with the added NOS items, given the car is not "totally" stock and not
concours. IMO, you should go one of two ways - make this one close to
concours (NOS tach and drive, drum brakes, stock exhaust), or make it a
driver (1275 exhaust, maybe alternator, certainly keep the disk brakes),
then price accordingly.  But (again IMHO), unless you're going to try to
sell it at Barret-Jackson, a driver might be an easier sell.
 
-=Chris


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Frank Clarici
Sent: 1/4/2004 10:57:34 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Bone Stock Bugeye 

I am just rambling on here but I just realized that I am restoring my 
very first bone stock 948 smooth case bugeye. 
I took a bunch apart and I put a bunch back together but never bone
stock! 

My yellow Bugeye is all buffed up and the paint turned out great. 
On to stuff like a slave cylinder, I have a few 1" bore slaves ready to 
go for the 1275s but none ready for a 948. 
Stock steering wheel. Wow, What a monster! and it needed work too but is
going to look just fine now that all the cracks are filled in and the 
flex paint is drying. 
The engine runs fine but it was dirty, I cleaned it tonight and as soon 
as it's dry I will paint it Morris green. 
Now onto the exhaust.....I have 2 new 1275 flanged exhaust pipes in 
stock, and a few 1275 flanged manifolds, should I just use what I have 
or do the stock 948 pipe with the funky clamp? My way would be better ;)
The car will retain it's disc brakes so it's not "bone" stock. 
I even prewired the car for the electric fuel pump out of routine 
because I do it all the time. But this 948 has a nice working stock 
mechanical AC fuel pump. I have cleaned it up and tested it not even 
realizing that Bugeyes never had electric pumps. Infact, I think the 
electric pump is still bolted under the car. The wire from the back is 
still there, I just added a white wire to the dash harness for it. 
Generator or alternator? I have a few of each to choose from. I even 
have a couple tach drives for the generator. 
I am leaning towards generator. But do I want to give up my NOS tach 
cable, NOS Lucas regulator (old) and a tach drive generator that's worth
1/2 as much as the whole car? I was saving all this stuff for the 
concours car I *might* do if I found the correct candidate. 

What do you folks think? 
Should I do it almost bone stock? 
Or should I make it a stock driver with an alternator and better
exhaust? 

-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
Back up to too many sprites again. 
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/ 






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Bone Stock Bugeye
References: <3FF8DFFA.1040509@exit109.com>

Hello Frank,

       here's my 2 cents, since you asked.

       there is either bone stock, or NOT. since you already are using
       the better disk brakes, then its NOT, and you should use
       whatever works best, or you have on hand. .. you don't intend
       to sell, .. you intend to drive. make it the most trouble free
       enjoyable DRIVER you can. .. save the rare parts for another
       time.




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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From Mike MacLean <macleans at earthlink.net>
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To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Bone Stock Bugeye
References: <3FF8DFFA.1040509@exit109.com>

Don't ask me.  I'm converting a "bone stock" Bugeye to a 1275/5 speed, 
electric fuel pump car.  Only convert it if you are selling it.  I found 
out everyone that says they like to see a "bone stock" Bugeye drove to 
the show in a 1275 powered Midget or Sprite with disk brakes with 
electric fuel pumps.  A "bone stock" Bugeye is like someone elses child, 
cute as long as it not yours.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite (bone stock for now)
56 BN2

Frank Clarici wrote:

> I am just rambling on here but I just realized that I am restoring my 
> very first bone stock 948 smooth case bugeye.
> I took a bunch apart and I put a bunch back together but never bone 
> stock!
>
> My yellow Bugeye is all buffed up and the paint turned out great.
> On to stuff like a slave cylinder, I have a few 1" bore slaves ready 
> to go for the 1275s but none ready for a 948.
> Stock steering wheel. Wow, What a monster! and it needed work too but 
> is going to look just fine now that all the cracks are filled in and 
> the flex paint is drying.
> The engine runs fine but it was dirty, I cleaned it tonight and as 
> soon as it's dry I will paint it Morris green.
> Now onto the exhaust.....I have 2 new 1275 flanged exhaust pipes in 
> stock, and a few 1275 flanged manifolds, should I just use what I have 
> or do the stock 948 pipe with the funky clamp? My way would be better ;)
> The car will retain it's disc brakes so it's not "bone" stock.
> I even prewired the car for the electric fuel pump out of routine 
> because I do it all the time. But this 948 has a nice working stock 
> mechanical AC fuel pump. I have cleaned it up and tested it not even 
> realizing that Bugeyes never had electric pumps. Infact, I think the 
> electric pump is still bolted under the car. The wire from the back is 
> still there, I just added a white wire to the dash harness for it.
> Generator or alternator? I have a few of each to choose from. I even 
> have a couple tach drives for the generator.
> I am leaning towards generator. But do I want to give up my NOS tach 
> cable, NOS Lucas regulator (old) and a tach drive generator that's 
> worth 1/2 as much as the whole car? I was saving all this stuff for 
> the concours car I *might* do if I found the correct candidate.
>
> What do you folks think?
> Should I do it almost bone stock?
> Or should I make it a stock driver with an alternator and better exhaust?






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To: chuck <cciaffone@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: OT: Finding 3/8" Allen Wrenches
References: <3FF5D37E.7080800@earthlink.net>
  from [151.201.120.178] at Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:44:14 -0600

Another of my favorite places is www.mcmaster.com. They have them for 
$1.02 each on page 2645. The entire catalog is amazing and online. 
Sometimes expensive but they have what you want and deliver in short order.

Dave & Bobbie

chuck wrote:

> I'm in need of several 3/8" allen wrenches, but all I can
> find singly are smaller sizes (at the local True Value).
> Y'all got any suggestions?? I'm gonna call/cruise what
> auto-parts stores are nearby, but I don't remember
> seeing them there.
>
> thanks,
>
> chuck






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Mike MacLean wrote:

> Don't ask me.  I'm converting a "bone stock" Bugeye to a 1275/5 speed, 
> electric fuel pump car.  Only convert it if you are selling it. 

I am selling it. I think I'll use what I have and make it a driver with 
an alternator. I just won't list it as "original" just "stock with 
upgrades".


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 00:07:45 EST
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To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Thanks all for the input on the fuel pump.Bob C






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   Frank Clarici
  <spritenut@exit109.com>
CC: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>,
   Spridget
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Subject: Re: Wee tight

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
Date:  Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:53:49 -0500

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:


> Can't do that today without someone
> calling the cops!! :)

Wanna bet? Offer to paint the cop's car :)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/



 Yeah Frank that sounds about right.
 keep up the good work..

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From "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at hotmail.com>
To: franks@teleport.com, Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: got new MINI
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 21:09:24 -0800
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Well...

...perhaps it was all those global parts that enabled you to 'haul-ass' 
around PIR that weekend, Frank!  Hope to see you...and those that 
attended...this year.

Maybe Paul will have his sequential six speed transmission conversion ready 
by then (oooops, sorry Paul.  I wasn't supposed to say any thing was I).

Take care.

WFO Herb
Keep the sticky side down!

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To: "WFO Herb" <froggi60@hotmail.com>, <franks@teleport.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: got new MINI
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:23:45 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Herb,

Gonna get it set up for a narrow power band 948!!  Calling it a factory
option!  LOL

Pa

> Maybe Paul will have his sequential six speed transmission conversion
ready
> by then (oooops, sorry Paul.  I wasn't supposed to say any thing was I).
>
> Take care.
>
> WFO Herb
> Keep the sticky side down!






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Frank Clarici
  <spritenut@exit109.com>
Subject: Re: Bone Stock Bugeye

From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>


I am just rambling on here but I just realized that I am restoring my 
very first bone stock 948 smooth case bugeye.
I took a bunch apart and I put a bunch back together but never bone stock!

My yellow Bugeye is all buffed up and the paint turned out great.
On to stuff like a slave cylinder, I have a few 1" bore slaves ready to 
go for the 1275s but none ready for a 948.
Stock steering wheel. Wow, What a monster! and it needed work too but is 
going to look just fine now that all the cracks are filled in and the 
flex paint is drying.
The engine runs fine but it was dirty, I cleaned it tonight and as soon 
as it's dry I will paint it Morris green.
Now onto the exhaust.....I have 2 new 1275 flanged exhaust pipes in 
stock, and a few 1275 flanged manifolds, should I just use what I have 
or do the stock 948 pipe with the funky clamp? My way would be better ;)
The car will retain it's disc brakes so it's not "bone" stock.
I even prewired the car for the electric fuel pump out of routine 
because I do it all the time. But this 948 has a nice working stock 
mechanical AC fuel pump. I have cleaned it up and tested it not even 
realizing that Bugeyes never had electric pumps. Infact, I think the 
electric pump is still bolted under the car. The wire from the back is 
still there, I just added a white wire to the dash harness for it.
Generator or alternator? I have a few of each to choose from. I even 
have a couple tach drives for the generator.
I am leaning towards generator. But do I want to give up my NOS tach 
cable, NOS Lucas regulator (old) and a tach drive generator that's worth 
1/2 as much as the whole car? I was saving all this stuff for the 
concours car I *might* do if I found the correct candidate.

What do you folks think?
Should I do it almost bone stock?
Or should I make it a stock driver with an alternator and better exhaust?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/


 Frank as fast as you seem to rebulid one, dont use your good
 NOS parts. Save all the good stuff Hell were not that old yet.
 There's always that chance the right car will come along.
 Keep up the good work, sounds like this one is headed towards
 resale value only.

 Larry Rex



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From "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at hotmail.com>
To: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: LBC Art
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 21:29:00 -0800
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Thanks, David.  Poking around this fellow's site is, well, interesting.  
THEY...you know, English folks...do some wild and crazy things with their 
cars!  Looks like fun but what a mess to clean up afterwards.

http://fp.furzedown.plus.com

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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "WFO Herb" <froggi60@hotmail.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: seqeuntial 6 speed.
References: <BAY2-F164Hx63RNpggk00006360@hotmail.com>

Hello WFO,

       well well well, you let the cat out the bag on Paul A.s
       conversion! i was to be the first one to get it installed this
       spring! i have seen the trick column mounted paddles already in
       his MINOR. and again no cutting, welding or irreversible
       modifications. .. i wonder if he'll still release it now that
       the words out early?..

       LOL




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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To: "Bill L" <pythias@pacifier.com>, "Frank Clarici"
  <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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  <64584617.20040104203600@pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Bone Stock Bugeye
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:43:29 -0000

I think there are three ways to go on this...

Bone Stock, but only if it really is as factory supplied.  The numbers of
these must be dwindling. Sounds like Frank's is not quite a candidate for
this.

Daily Driver, with 5 speed, (or 6 speed paddle shift!) 1275, disc brakes or
whatever else is available/ takes your fancy in order  to upgrade for modern
driving conditions, whilst keeping the general "character".

Stock, with PERIOD  upgrades.  The sort of thing that was readily available
whilst they were still regarded as everyday cars.  This would include tuned
engine, 3 into 1,  disc brakes, non-tach drive etc but probably not 5 speed,
Mitsuwhatever generator.

In the UK, Sprites (as opposed to Spridgets) are really quite rare these
days, in any condition.

Guy

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: Bone Stock Bugeye


> Hello Frank,
>
>        here's my 2 cents, since you asked.
>
>        there is either bone stock, or NOT. since you already are using
>        the better disk brakes, then its NOT, and you should use
>        whatever works best, or you have on hand. .. you don't intend
>        to sell, .. you intend to drive. make it the most trouble free
>        enjoyable DRIVER you can. .. save the rare parts for another
>        time.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
>    "66 Sprite






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To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <00b401c3d33c$b5699580$8500a8c0@finnland>
Subject: Re: LBC Art
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:46:56 -0000

Wow!!

That,
is some talented artist!

Guy 

----- Original Message ----- 
From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:33 AM
Subject: LBC Art


> For those of you who do not frequent the pages of www.mgcars.org, I would
> like to share this url: http://fp.furzedown.plus.com/pictures.htm .
> This is the work of Nick, one of the regulars on that site. I absolutely
> love it. Ain't that Bentley something?!
> David Lieb






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To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>, "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
References: <1bcea201c3d336$4d38f920$2801010a@mail2world.com>
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:54:16 -0000

Chris,
Something to do with Napoleon I think, but then we exiled him to Elba!

Actually I think the Romans had something to do with it.  1000 paces to a
Roman Mile.  At least the Milecastles on Hadrians Wall, just near here, are
about 1000 (good)  paces appart

Sadly, in the UK, we now have a really bastardised system where things are
measured in a mixture of metric and imperial.  If I buy sheet building
materials, I might get an 8 foot X 4 foot sheet of 12 millimeter plywood!
Now what sort of sense is that!!


Guy


----- Original Message ----- 
From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <spritenut@exit109.com>; <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>
Cc: <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG


> Wasn't the metric system thought up by the French? (flame suit on)
>
> Guy, 1 gal (UK) =1.2 gal (US), so about 20% smaller. :) But one of these
> days, I'd like to make a trip over the pond and have a REAL pint of
> beer! (the 20% bigger ones!) :)
>
> -=Chris
>
>
>     From: Frank Clarici
> Sent: 1/4/2004 9:32:15 PM
> To: Guy.Weller@kencomp.net
> Cc: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com;spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG
>
> Guy Weller wrote:
>
> > Excuse me Sir!
> > We do DO NOT have Kilometers in the UK
>
> YOU tell em Guy!!
> Any measurements us Americans have is all due to the English.
> Remember, we are an English settled colony.
> Pounds, Ounces, pints, quarts, gallons, inches, feet, yards, miles.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan  5 03:53:35 2004
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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 05:52:10 EST
Subject: Re: exhaust header question
To: vgulley@cox-internet.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/4/04 5:38:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
vgulley@cox-internet.com writes:


> The pipe
> protrudes about 0.060" past the flange,

Vince:

Seems like mine had a little protrusion that fit INTO the exhaust hole in the 
head and did not cause a problem.  You can tell if you fit the header onto 
the head first without the gasket and be sure it is flush, and that the 
protrusion is not lifting the header surface away from the head.
-David C.






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:11:32 -0500 (EST)
To: Guy.Weller@kencomp.net (Guy Weller)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: LBC Art
  Jan 2004 08:46:56 -0000

Double wow...impressive, eh?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:30:17 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: macleans@earthlink.net (Mike MacLean),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Bone Stock Bugeye
  Jan 2004 23:44:05 -0500

Totally agree.

Make the car much more attractive as
useable in today's world and thus, worth
the price. Having an electric pump as
a backup for the mechanical one is a
nice selling point as is the modern alternator that can handle modern
halogen lites and a decent sound system
for those prospective buyers so inclined.

Save your NOS stuff for YOUR "stock"
keeper, Frank. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:46:50 -0500 (EST)
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Wee tight
  2004 18:37:44 -0800

Yep...

Location is everything for this kind of
work. The more out of sight you can be,
the more out of mind you are with
respect to others. But even you were
worried about your neighbors the first
time you started the car without an
exhaust system on it...I remember the
post!! :):):)

And of course, the fact is we really don't
want to disturb others when we are doing
our thing, anyway. 

I like Frank's idea of offering to paint
the cop's car....hope he likes Frog Leaf Green! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:52:06 -0500 (EST)
To: soavero@yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Cc: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Vizard $22.99 (was Re: K&N  filters
  18:07:01 -0800 (PST)

Excellent!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 07:01:20 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: mgagne@unc.edu (Michel R. Gagne),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget
  	list)
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
  20:31:18 -0500

No, Bud...

I am not trying to be a wise guy, here.
I remember seeing these advertised in
a Moss catalog sale flyer and the price
was somewhere around $200 and maybe
a little more. 

The fellow originating the post was looking for an inexpensive fuel
pump.

Don't get me wrong. There is nothing
wrong with SU fuel pumps and I am quite
sure the AUF300 Electronic is the best
of the bunch.

But inexpensive they are not, while Facet's (and others) can be had for
(in some cases) half the price and do
the job just as well.

LBCarCo sells all types at reasonable
prices, including a little round one (never
used one of these) for 
even less than the Facet.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>,
   "spridget 	list"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 07:23:59 -0500

Understood.  No problem.  Since my vendor of choice, for such things, is The
Roadster Factory, I don't pay much attention to Moss.  I know TRF had them
for way less than $200, only a year ago.  Of course, with the weak dollar,
I'm sure the price is a bit elevated, at this time.
What I'm getting at is that, if we constantly replace O.E. and O.E. type
parts with aftermarket parts, just to save a few bucks, we eventually end up
with a caricature of what used to be a very unique and wonderful car.  If we
all do that, we drive the O.E. suppliers off the market and leave ourselves
at the mercy of the purveyors of pacific rim junk.
I like/need to save money as much as (if not more than) the next guy.  But,
there are some things I won't compromise on.  I want to continue to enjoy
the fruits of Geoff and Donald Healey's labor, as they intended them to be,
for as long as I can still climb in and out of the little buggers.
Hopefully, that'll be at least another 20-30 years.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 7:01 AM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Michel R. Gagne; spridget list
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion


No, Bud...

I am not trying to be a wise guy, here.
I remember seeing these advertised in
a Moss catalog sale flyer and the price
was somewhere around $200 and maybe
a little more.

The fellow originating the post was looking for an inexpensive fuel
pump.

Don't get me wrong. There is nothing
wrong with SU fuel pumps and I am quite
sure the AUF300 Electronic is the best
of the bunch.

But inexpensive they are not, while Facet's (and others) can be had for
(in some cases) half the price and do
the job just as well.

LBCarCo sells all types at reasonable
prices, including a little round one (never
used one of these) for
even less than the Facet.




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 07:31:47 -0500 (EST)
To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne), mgagne@unc.edu (Michel R. Gagne),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget list)
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
  Jan 2004 19:21:26 -0500

Actually, Geoff...

FI runs 45psi+.

The Facet HP pump is a 6psi+ type for carburated applications requiring
a higher
capacity flow rate. I used one on my
"Vizardized" 1340 which gave 90+HP
at the rear wheels. Still, it had to be
regulated for the sake of the Weber.

Now maybe this was "overkill",
but at a continuous 5k rpm with spurts
to 7k, there was no leaning off according
to the dyno. Maybe the same could
have been accomplished with the lower
pressure Facet but things wear in time.

My thought was "reserve" and since it
could be regulated, better a little too
much than not enough over time.

I currently run the low pressure version
on the Cooper S spec 1293. This engine
basically never sees anything over 5k
(cam advanced 4 degrees for Metro
inlet timing - helluva bottom end and
mid-range!:) cruises at 3100rpm or so
doing 65 with it's 3.7.

Since like any electric pump they can
suddenly quit working, I use to replace them automatically every few
years
when I commuted to my "office". Now
that I'm retired and doing far less miles,
maybe every 5 years or so.

I've used Facets for years..swear by 'em.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 07:34:54 -0500 (EST)
To: grbyrns@ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Austin A35 details
  2004 16:10:03 -0800

"Now with the change of season and needs, we should both get turns....."

Man with plan. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 07:36:27 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net (PAsgeirsson),
   franks@teleport.com (Dave 	Franks), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Globalizarion
  Jan 2004 19:11:31 -0500

There is no escape!!! }:0-<




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Dan Walters" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
To: "'Frank Clarici'" <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   "'Spridgets'"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Bone Stock Bugeye
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 07:53:05 -0500

Keep it looking original, you have your driver and if you plan on
selling it....

Dan Walters
'63 Sprite
'74 Midget
Brick NJ


-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:55 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Bone Stock Bugeye


I am just rambling on here but I just realized that I am restoring my 
very first bone stock 948 smooth case bugeye.
I took a bunch apart and I put a bunch back together but never bone
stock!


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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:12:02 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: mgagne@unc.edu (Michel R. Gagne),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget
  	list)
Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
  07:23:59 -0500

Hi, Bud...

Good! Glad you didn't misunderstand.
Gotta watch my phrasing sometimes! :)

You're absolutely right about not buying
the OEM stuff. Read Ed's post on this as
well. You are both right....we have put
ourselves "here" but who doesn't try to
save money? It all comes down to what
is "reasonable" and "reasonable" is looked
upon differently by different people and not just based on simply
different financial
circumstances as much as getting decent
value for your buck. 

Fr'instance, compare the cost of a
Spridget overhauled ribcase to a
Datsun overhauled box? +-1/2 the price
and you get synchro on first and a 5th
gear to boot with far less mechanical noise (and probably less
mechanical
loss in HP), So, It's not just a question of
"wee tight", but "value". 

The AUF300 is another example I am
afraid...$113.55, more for the double
ended competition pump (which I 
confused it with!! My bad..I apologize).

With Facets (and others) out there at
$46.00? 

Try using the OEM rotors with a PerTronix
and open up the plug gaps to take advantage of the higher output of the
electronic ignition. Most of them will
"crack". (Peter C.'s won't though, but
I forget what he's supplying). 

I wonder what a vinyl conv. top of the original thickness material would
go for
these days. Or the original quality chrome
bumperettes or grilles?

Time marches on. No getting around it
I am afraid.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: Cooling my leaky jets
From "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne at unc.edu>
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
CC: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

> Michel R. Gagne wrote:
> 
>>  I changed from GrossJets to
>> ball-valves.  I've never used the ball valves before.
> 
> Wait a minute. Gross jets ARE ball valves. SU float valves are needle
> valves.
> I tried gross jets twice (ball valves) and they gave me a headache
> twice. So I always use needle valves. They still give me a headache
> every now and then but not like the Gross jets.


You are right, but the new ball-valve I put on has a much larger ball.  I'll
check with my supplier to see exactly what it was I got sent.
Thanks again all,
Mike






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From Dbcooper292 at aol.com
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: exhaust header q

My header is the same way, and it seemed odd to me too.  I haven't run it yet but it was used, and apparently worked well on the former application, I guess it's normal.

Mark M.






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Weather-Resistant Wire
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:20:34 -0600

It's like this, I am installing a Sigma Sport bicycle speedometer on my
Midget. Unfortunately, the wire that comes on it is not nearly long enough
to reach from the rear brake drum into the cockpit. I guess the Midget is
larger than a bicycle...
At any rate, I don't want to have to do this too often, so I would like to
use some wire that will withstand the rigors of being on the rear axle for a
goodly number of years. I intend to follow the brake hose from the diff to
the body and then put a grommet through into the cockpit and have a
connector just inside so that I can pull the rear axle at a later date
should it be necessary. I keep coming up with a blank on a source of wire. I
only need two conductors and the wire is quite fine, around 28 gauge or so.
I figured that TV Cable would be rugged enough, but the shield wire is some
metal that refuses to take solder. Any ideas?
David Lieb
1972 RWA Midget
2002 GTI for Trish to beat me at autocross with






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From Dbcooper292 at aol.com
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: pressure regulator

I have the one from Vicky Brit.  It was about forty dollars, seems very well constructed, seems to work well, comes with a variety of fittiings, clamps, etc and is adjustable over several pounds.

Mark M






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   "Geoff Branch"
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Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion/confession time
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:51:01 -0500

Reading Capt. Bob's post got me to thinking about the years when I used my
Midget every day, year-around, as my business transportation.  I had zero
DNFs, as well as zero DNSs and no "delayed in route".  It was all open road
driving (mainly along the Monongahela, Allegheny and Ohio rivers), seldom
less than 100 mi. per driving day and with several cross-country trips of as
much as 700 miles.  Keeping in mind that I was a whole lot younger, then, I
look back very fondly on those times.
OK.  Confession time.  Are you guys ready for this?
I carried a spare fuel pump (SU, of course).  And a spare coil.  And a spare
dizzy.  And a bunch of tools, along with other spares (including a half
shaft).  I figured that Murphy would probably leave me alone, if he knew
that I was PREPARED.  Apparently, it worked.
In defense of LBCs, I should state that I was starting a new business and
wanted to establish a record for dependability.  So, I left nothing to
chance.
I became paranoid about being stranded along the road after experiencing
three strandings while driving Porsche 356s, in HS and college, and one
stranding at the hands of a '67 VW beetle.  While it is fun to look back and
laugh about those incidents (which were entirely due to driver
error/maintenance short-cuts/stupidity), I resolved to never put myself or
one of my cars in that position, again.
Capt. Bob's statement about routinely replacing a fuel pump, after x number
of hours/miles/years of service reveals his aircraft background.  Like a
commercial aircraft, if one wants his/her spridget to be totally dependable,
it is important to follow all factory maintenance recommendations,
carefully, as well as to supplement that maintenance with preventative
maintenance based upon the service history of the spridget, of which there
should be a lot documented.  While a major component failure on one of Capt.
Bob's aircraft would very likely mean A BAD DAY AT WORK, at the very least,
a major component failure, on the road, in one of our Spridgets can also
turn out to be pretty bad.  Hence, the aircraft maintenance mentality
applied to LBCs (and VWs and 356s) by yours truly, with very gratifying
results.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 7:32 AM
To: Geoff Branch
Cc: Bud Osbourne; Michel R. Gagne; spridget list
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion


Since like any electric pump they can
suddenly quit working, I use to replace them automatically every few
years
when I commuted to my "office". Now
that I'm retired and doing far less miles,
maybe every 5 years or so.

I've used Facets for years..swear by 'em.




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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From Dbcooper292 at aol.com
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: confession time

I would look back at my youth fondly too if I had a porsche 356 in HS and college, even if I was standing next to it on the shoulder!

Mark M.






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To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
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Subject: was pressure reg. suggestion.  now old times/epic drives
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:34:29 -0500

It's been a fun discussion, which (I hope) is what the spridget talk list
all about.  I haven't had the time, for the last several months, to
participate much on either this list or 356Talk.  With high water on my end
of the river for the next few days, I'll either have a lot of time on my
hands or none at all (I'm a marine surveyor).  So far, none of my clients
have hit or sunk anything, so, I've got time.
Anyhow, following my "confession" post, I got to thinking about some "epic"
drives, of days gone by, in what is now vintage iron.  Memories of cruising
a '66 MGB, in company of a 'friend's '65 MGB across Indiana, Illinois and
Iowa at 65-70 mph, into the teeth of a January (1968, to be exact) snow
storm, on snow-covered, deserted Interstates and two lane Iowa roads.  On
bias-ply, summer treads.  In a strong cross-wind.  No margin for error, for
SURE.  YAHOOOOO!!!
Or one of several return trips (Iowa to Pittsburgh, to see a girl friend) in
that same MGB, on those same damn tires, through snow, sleet and freezing
rain, always at night.  Similar trips made in 356s and my '67 beetle were
also memorable, for a variety of reasons.  But, ya know, if I'd had all of
the modern "stuff" that many of us are putting on our LBCs now, back then,
it would have diminished the experiences greatly by making things too sane,
safe and predictable.  Think about it, guys.  The "unknown element" makes
life much more interesting and challenging.  Without challenge, we don't
function nearly as well nor (in my opinion) is life nearly as enjoyable.
So, I continue to use original type ignition systems and fuel pumps.  My Mk
I Midget will return to the road, this summer (after at least 25 years of
inactivity) with it's original, Lucas generator supplying "juice" to an all
O.E. type electrical system.  It will, however, have an SU electric (not
electronic) fuel pump supplying fuel to a 1275, driving through a rib-case
gearbox, however.  And the tires will be radials and the front brakes will
be discs....but it'll all be O.E. type, merry old England type stuff.  Sure,
I'll never quite get there, but, I'm always going to be trying to turn back
the hands of time.  In my opinion, it just doesn't get any better than that.
Bud Osbourne






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From Jeff Boatright <jboatri at emory.edu>
Subject: No LBC: auto transport

I need to have an E320 Merc transported from Maine to Atlanta. Does 
anyone have god or bad tales about particular transporters?

Thanks much.

LBC content: This family-discounted purchase from my father-in-law 
means I'm spending much less money on a new car for my wife. That 
leaves more money for the Sprite! Now if I could somehow get more 
time...
-- 

_____________________________________________________________
Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD
Assistant Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USA
Senior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvis
mailto:jboatri@emory.edu






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Subject: Re: No LBC: auto transport
References: <a06010205bc1f5af1c4b5@[163.246.59.196]>

Intercity worked well for me with 3 separate cars from 3 different areas 
of the country. Use their standby shipping for a little savings.
http://www.intercitylines.com/

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>


Jeff Boatright wrote:

> I need to have an E320 Merc transported from Maine to Atlanta. Does 
> anyone have god or bad tales about particular transporters?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> LBC content: This family-discounted purchase from my father-in-law 
> means I'm spending much less money on a new car for my wife. That 
> leaves more money for the Sprite! Now if I could somehow get more time...






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:59:49 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: mgagne@unc.edu (Michel R. Gagne),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget
  	list)
Subject: Re: was pressure reg. suggestion.  now old times/epic drives
  11:34:29 -0500

Well....

I certainly do understand where you are
coming from, Bud!

But we were doing the best we could back
then, with what was that period's state of the art. We didn't know any
better 'cause
there was no "better" at that point in time!

Then came radials, alternators, Rain-X,
etc., etc. :)

You know....this goes on with refurbishing
WW1 aircraft as well. Using the rotary
engine as an example....this was state
of the art back in 1917. We ALL love their
sound and the smell of Castor Oil but
insurance companies hate 'em...to the
tune of major premium increases if they'll
insure aircraft powered with them at all.

Later, came the radial. Far more
reliable and dependable, much less prone
to failure, most especially should you get
the air/fuel mix slightly off in the rotary.....
it stops!! Just absolutely suddenly quits
and isn't the easiest of engines to get
started again...you better have some
altitude (time!!) 'cause you're going to
have to play with the air/fuel mix to get
it "right" for a successful restart.

This was perfectly acceptable "back when" when Camels, Snipes and
Fokker Triplanes were a dime a dozen
cheap and the rotary was state of the art.

But I know what you mean and part of
me empathizes hugely, believe me....
I remember those trips as well along
with the availablity of "real man" leaded
100RON+ leaded at about 50 cents
a gallon and 9.0-10.0-1 "stock" MGA's!! :)

("Hey...watcha' got in there?" after winning autocross. "Oh...stock
1500.
Why do you ask?")




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:02:04 -0500 (EST)
To: Dbcooper292@aol.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: confession time
  -0500

"I would look back at my youth fondly too
if I had a Porsche 356...."

It would have to be a ragtop!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:19:23 -0500 (EST)
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Cc: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch), mgagne@unc.edu (Michel R.
  Gagne),
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Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion/confession time
  10:51:01 -0500

(Aircraft metality) Heh, heh...yep!

That's exactly where it came from...they
"hard time" starter-genrators, alternators,
fuel/hyd. pumps, etc., etc. based on operational experience over time,
saving
money overall in terms of the bottom line
over time. 

If it's good enough for the airline, it's
good enough for me (albeit practiced
to a lesser extent.....haven't got their
resources!!:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Hi,

There's some problem affecting my workstation. Not sure what it is, but 
whenever I go to ebay and the auction listed below, it shows a high bid 
of $227.50.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2450874518&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>






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From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Computer problems LBC Related

At 02:40 PM 1/5/2004, Jay Fishbein wrote:
Hi,
>There's some problem affecting my workstation.

Misnomer?  Doesn't the term imply...... I dunno... .....work?

>Not sure what it is, but
>whenever I go to ebay and the auction listed below, it shows a high bid
>of $227.50.

But an Eyetalian muffler on an Eyetalian Sprite would be stunning!!!


>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2450874518&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1
>
>jay fishbein
>wallingford, ct
>Home of "The Innocenti Project"
>61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
>63 Pink Sprite MkII
>74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan  5 14:21:12 2004
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:19:56 -0500 (EST)
To: type79@ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: Computer problems LBC Related
  Jan 2004 15:40:15 -0500

Lessee...

Your workstation is OK, jf! :)

These went for $200 several years
ago (I got two for $300 at the time and
sold one to Mike MacLean out in Ca.)
so $227 today.....? Yeah.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From John.Deikis at med.va.gov
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump/Facet/cheap-o
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:24:06 -0600 

Check the full-page ads for aircooled VW hop-up parts in the back of Hot VWs
or VW Trends.  Low pressure Facet pumps usually sell well beloe $50 there
and sometimes on sale for as low as $35.  

JohnD

...I confess....'63 Beetle-battle scarred; '66 Microbus-with tie-dyed
headliner; '67 Beetle-world's most permanent restoration project but hoping
to be a rice-eating street challenger!

...........................................................

Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:43:13 -0500 (EST)
From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump

Mike...

If you do a web search on Facet Electric
Fuel Pumps, you will find aircraft parts
suppliers that sell these for $46.00 or so.

They also sell the filters for them and other parts for them as well. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:43:42 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: 1275 fuel pump/Facet/cheap-o
  15:24:06 -0600

$35.00? Even better!!!

Thanx, JD. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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-----Original Message-----
From Brashear, Jack, N 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM
To: 'Richard Rivenbark'
Subject: RE: SUCCESS!!!!

Hi All, I've often wondered about the Antique Tags prices and laws in
the various states.  In Arkansas we pay $7 once (per car) and NEVER have
to renew.  No mileage restrictions here either...you must prove
ownership of some other vehicle and attest that your Antique is not your
primary means of transportation.  How 'bout y'all???
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From Richard Rivenbark [mailto:rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:57 AM
To: Spridgets; Midgetsprite
Subject: SUCCESS!!!!

Finally have a license plate on the car!!!  Antique tag in Florida only
costs $20.58 per year for a Midget.  






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>, <Dbcooper292@aol.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:18:01 -0500

Actually, my second 356 was a Roadster.  Great fun, but not quite as rigid
as a Spridget or MGB.  I really do prefer the coupes.  I found that I left
the top up, more often than not, because it prevented scuttle shake!!!
While I suspect that a 356B Roadster (basically, the classic Speedster with
roll-up windows and a taller windshield) with zero rust would not exhibit
scuttle shake, it is a tribute to Geoff Healey's and Syd Enever's
engineering talents that rusty Spridgets and MGBs are STILL surprisingly
rigid.
Bud Osbourne

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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:02 PM
To: Dbcooper292@aol.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: confession time


"I would look back at my youth fondly too
if I had a Porsche 356...."

It would have to be a ragtop!! :)




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:31:08 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
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Subject: RE: confession time
  18:18:01 -0500

Bud...

Of course it was a roadster....you're a
class human being!! :):)

We'll ignore the "I prefer the coupe"
statement based upon your reasons 
as TR2's & 3's had scuttle shake as well.
as did the Morgan 4+4 my buddy drove.

Never bothered me. Cars are different! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Wee tight piano hinge, seat belt webbing& seat covers
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

RE:Frank wrote:
> > Has any just replaced the seat belt webbing in
> their interia reel belts?
> 
> VW back seat belts. late 80s/early 90s GTI, GOLF,
> and Jetta.
> You have to remove the tilt ball NOT the inertia
> ball.
> Now they will mount horizonally and they work real
> nice.

Would those be two point or three point belts?
thanks, bill b.
'69 Sprite (marginally functional seat belts)

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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Brashear, Jack, N" <JNBrashear@garverengineers.com>
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Hello N,

       in Washington (STATE) its $35. good forever. there are THREE
       variants.
       ANTIQUE, which i think is pre WWII,
       
       CLASSIC, which is 25 years old or more, and
       
       ORIGINAL PLATE, wherein you obtain a plate from the year the
       vehicle was made. same as CLASSIC.

       while there are no STRICT mileage limits, its "around 5000 ->
       6000 miles per year, to and from parades and events, and
       "limited pleasure driving".

       this is about the same as HAGGERTY insurance.

       i personally have original (not THE original) plates for "the
       red thing" and Haggerty insurance. living in Western Washington,
       i don't take it out of the garage if the roads are wet, which
       means at least two days after the rain stops. Definitely
       limited, tho last year was GREAT and I probably exceeded
       guidelines.
       




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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Subject: Antique tags was: Re: FW: SUCCESS!!!!
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:30:23 -0800
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In New Jersey, it's $33.50 for Historic plates, with a no-fee renewal
every 3 years. You can get personalized istoric plates for an additional
$50.  No mileage restriction, but must be over 25 years old and used
only for"exhibition and education".
 
There's also a "collector car" registration (for collectir cars that
don't meet the historic criteria), which gives you regular plates, but
with a 3000 mile per year restriction, but no useage or age restriction.
You also get an inspection waiver, but you must bring the car to an
inspection station every 2 years for an odometer check. $25 initial fee,
and $10 fee every renewal.
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Brashear, Jack, N;Brashear, Jack, N;Brashear,
Jack, N
Sent: 1/5/2004 5:48:54 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: FW: SUCCESS!!!! 

-----Original Message----- 
From Brashear, Jack, N 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM 
To: 'Richard Rivenbark' 
Subject: RE: SUCCESS!!!! 

Hi All, I've often wondered about the Antique Tags prices and laws in 
the various states. In Arkansas we pay $7 once (per car) and NEVER have 
to renew. No mileage restrictions here either...you must prove 
ownership of some other vehicle and attest that your Antique is not your
primary means of transportation. How 'bout y'all??? 
Jack 

-----Original Message----- 
From Richard Rivenbark [mailto:rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:57 AM 
To: Spridgets; Midgetsprite 
Subject: SUCCESS!!!! 

Finally have a license plate on the car!!! Antique tag in Florida only 
costs $20.58 per year for a Midget. 

. 






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:36:12 -0800
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Yes, I was worried, but so far no one has complained. But when
springtime comes it'll have an exhaust system on it soon after I get it
roadworthy, so I won't have to worry about it at all. Then I just need
to figure out what to do with two extra tubs!
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: 1/5/2004 6:48:50 AM
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Wee tight 

Yep... 

Location is everything for this kind of 
work. The more out of sight you can be, 
the more out of mind you are with 
respect to others. But even you were 
worried about your neighbors the first 
time you started the car without an 
exhaust system on it...I remember the 
post!! :):):) 






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Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
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Bud Osbourne wrote:

>   If we
> all do that, we drive the O.E. suppliers off the market and leave ourselves
> at the mercy of the purveyors of pacific rim junk.
> I like/need to save money as much as (if not more than) the next guy.  But,
> there are some things I won't compromise on.  

Wait a minute here, unless things changed in recent years, TRF has it's 
OWN chinese manufacturing plant. I recall the TR6 green radiator hoses 
turning black all by themselves on the boat ride over.
I stopped by their vending table at Bowie. It was a chinese flea market 
of moss crap and other chinese or taiwan junk.
It's too late, the major suppliers sold out to the asians back in the 
80s. Oh and beware of those "made in UK" stickers on the stuff from that 
UK colony called Hong Kong!
Like the leaf springs made by British Spring UK, they assemble them out 
of chinese steel in the UK. You can see the chinese letters on the 
springs stamped right in.
Read between the lines people. Lucas "type" is NOT Lucas.

> LBCarCo sells all types at reasonable
> prices, including a little round one (never
> used one of these) for
> even less than the Facet.

Watch out for that plastic diaphram round SU "type" fuel pump, the 
plastic wear out real fast and it cracks and the pump leaks.
1 year at best if you use the car.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: success...
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:45:26 -0600

In Oklahoma you have to renew your "auto" yearly, you can get either a decal
for your current plate or a new plate.  They dont' really care which way
yougo.  On cars 30 years or older you can apply for a vintage registration,
this is an extra 5.00.  You have to present a vintage plate of the year of
your cars manufacture for Oklahoma.  So in my case 1959.  Oklahoma runs a
check to make sure no one else has that tag registered and if not it is
yours to put on the car as your plate.  You still have a "modern" tag that
is kept somewhere on the car..under the seat, boot etc..  You can also apply
for an antique exemption that gives you a reduced rate, but that is sort of
null now days as cars over 30 years only cost 17.00 to register anyway.  If
I sell a car Oklahoma doesn't want the tag back, they don't care what
happens to it really.  I know that is different in other states such as NY.
That is what happens in these parts anyway.

Charlie






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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:43:06 -0800
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I hear ya. The first time I drove on the then newly opened Route 1
freeway on Delaware (about 1997 or so), I was astonished to find the
road marked in kilometers. The exits were numbered according to the
kilometer posts as well. But the strangest thing is seeing "Exit 155,
1/2 mile" on that highway!  Everywhere else I've driven in the US is
marked in miles (so it works with the odometers), with kilometers, if
given, in smaller type or parentheses. 
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Guy Weller
Sent: 1/5/2004 3:56:16 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net;cbking@alum.rpi.edu
Subject: Re: Austin A35 MPG 

Chris, 
Something to do with Napoleon I think, but then we exiled him to Elba! 

Actually I think the Romans had something to do with it. 1000 paces to a
Roman Mile. At least the Milecastles on Hadrians Wall, just near here,
are 
about 1000 (good) paces appart 

Sadly, in the UK, we now have a really bastardised system where things
are 
measured in a mixture of metric and imperial. If I buy sheet building 
materials, I might get an 8 foot X 4 foot sheet of 12 millimeter
plywood! 
Now what sort of sense is that!! 


Guy 






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Subject: FW: plates
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:53:32 -0600
  with any abuse report

-----Original Message-----
From Wm. Thompson [mailto:willy at thompsoncarpentry.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 6:53 PM
To: Bill L
Subject: plates



Wisconsin is

185 for your first "collector"
85 for each one after that

The Plates never expire, but are non transferable either to another car, or
another owner

The Plates are not valid in January






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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'Bud Osbourne'" <abcoz@hky.com>
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Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:54:34 -0800

I changed over to the NAPA Facet pump only after three Canadian
mechanical pumps left me sitting on the side of the road smelling gas. I
tend to resist change myself (took Frank two years to talk me into an
alternator conversion), and didn't go to the 5-speed until I had two
rebuilt ribcase trannys.  Factory Lucas parts made in India, NOS
replacement parts from who knows where.  The Facet pump works and can be
replaced at any NAPA store, what more could you ask for.
		Crash  

I'm afraid I haven't priced one, lately, as the old style (points) ones
that
I run have been totally dependable.  Used to be around $100-$125,
however.
I know the Facets were significantly cheaper.  I like to stick with the
O.E.
stuff, when I can still get it.  






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CT is even simpler. You register your +25 yr old car with Antique tags, 
no mileage limitations, no 2nd vehicle requirement, it can be used any 
way one pleases, primary or otherwise.

The big plus is that in CT where we have property tax on motor vehicles, 
most if not all towns and cities limit the assessment on vehicles with 
antique tags to $500 which in our humble little village equates to 
roughly $10.00 a year.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/



Brashear, Jack, N wrote:

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brashear, Jack, N 
>Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:50 AM
>To: 'Richard Rivenbark'
>Subject: RE: SUCCESS!!!!
>
>Hi All, I've often wondered about the Antique Tags prices and laws in
>the various states.  In Arkansas we pay $7 once (per car) and NEVER have
>to renew.  No mileage restrictions here either...you must prove
>ownership of some other vehicle and attest that your Antique is not your
>primary means of transportation.  How 'bout y'all???






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From "Robah Burke" <rkburkesr at hotmail.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Antique tags
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:09:55 -0500
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Does anyone happen to know how to get these tags in North Carolina? Use a 
year of manufacture tag, ins., inspection, antique or classic tags ?  
Thanks.    RKB

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:28:27 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: FW: SUCCESS!!!!
  Jan 2004 19:58:47 -0500

Correctomundo, jf!!

$15.00 in Stamford. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Okay, here's the deal.

I went back to that ebay site
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2450874518&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1
and now it shows a final bid of $320. Something is definitely wrong here.

What in god's name makes this so valuable and desirable? The first POS, 
rot-box, incomplete, bondo-bucket bugeye that I bought back in '77 came 
with one of these in a box. It meant nothing to me then and means 
nothing to me now. It stayed in the box until I put it up in the rafters 
of my old garage until I moved. Couldn't tell you exactly where it is at 
the moment except that it is still in the box somewhere in my storage 
garage.

I got cold sweats when the last ones went for a hundred bucks, but +$300 ?!

Enough of that, I'm going back to finish watching The Italian Job.

-- 

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:32:43 -0500 (EST)
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Wee tight
  2004 16:36:12 -0800

Sure...

As I said, no one really wants to disturb
their neighbors. It's counterproductive in
all sorts of ways.

Used tubs? EBAY!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:35:01 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget
  list)
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
  Jan 2004 19:40:38 -0500

"Watch out for that plastic diaphragm..."

The Chinese are doing plastic now?
Where will it all end? <VBG> :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <Law9-F27PWnOIwQO3Oh000035ea@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Antique tags
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:12:55 -0600

Here is the Illinois policy as stated by the Secretary of State's website:
>>>>>>>>>>>
An Antique Vehicle is any motor vehicle at least 25 years of age or a bona
fide replica that is only driven to and from antique shows, exhibitions,
demonstrations, or for servicing. The plates may also be issued for
fire-fighting vehicles more than 20 years old that are used only for
exhibition.

A registered owner of an antique may display historical plates representing
the model year of the vehicle, instead of antique vehicle plates. If such
plates are used, the owner must provide the plates for display and carry the
current set of antique plates and registration ID card in the vehicle.

Antique plate registrations are good for five years. The current
registration expires in December 31, 2004.

To apply for this plate, an affirmation form must be submitted with the
request for Antique plates. The request can only be processed in
Springfield, Chicago and Level III facilities. Level III facilities sell
most plates that do not require documentation upon renewal.

Initial Cost:
$30 Standard or Personalized - 5-year plate expires 12/04

$124 Vanity Antique Vehicle - 5-year plate expires 12/04

$74 Antique MCY

Renewal Fee:
$30 Standard or Personalized - 5-year plate expires 12/04

$43 Vanity - 5-year plate expires 12/04
<<<<<<<<<<<<<
This tends to translate into: nobody checks up on it, you don't have to go
through emissions testing, and it costs less than standard plates. The
biggest risk so far is being pulled over by a cop who can't figure out why
your tag says that your plate won't expire for 2 or 3 years. The guy in our
club who logs the most mileage on his LBC has antique plates. Go figure.
David Lieb






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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:09:05 -0500 (EST)
To: type79@ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: More Computer Problems - Still LBC related
  Jan 2004 20:27:09 -0500

Heh, heh...

You didn't appreciate what you had, jf! :)

Sprite Abarths went for $49.95 in 1960.

They have a straight through design...no
baffles. They cut the BE's 0-60 time
by 3 seconds and resulted in about 40-45
mpg otherwise.

They are VERY heavy for their size...
surprisingly so....very well constructed...
like a fine vintage wine, they age very 
well becoming progressively, slowly 
louder over time.

In fact, they are everything modern
Chinese LBC parts are not (are you
listening, Frank?:).

They can be had for less than these
bidders are willing to pay. From Sports
& Classics in Darien, CT. At least until
John's supply runs out!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Fuel Gage Readings

I need wisdom from the List regarding either the fuel gauge or the 
sending unit ( actually both, duh).

My fuel gauge needle first went immediately to Full when I turned the 
key. Since I had less than 1 gallon in the tank, I knew this was not 
correct. I thought I remembered something about reversing the B & T wire 
connections when a car is converted from positive to negative ground. 
Since I have switched to negative, I switch the 2 wires going to the 
fuel gauge. Needle went to Empty. But with so little gasoline in tank I 
thought this might be close. I filled the tank at the local gas station 
(furtherst ride in Bugeye yet! Yea!), and the gauge still reads empty!!

I had cleaned the fuel sending unit, making sure the float arm was loose 
and wire connections good, but I really don't know if the unit was good. 
I added a grounding wire to the unit (from 1 of the six screws to the 
body). Might this be causing the problem?

Any suggestions as to how to check either the fuel gauge or sending 
unit. Is there any way of checking sending unit without draining & 
removing tank?

Driving locally, I can live without the fuel gauge working, but I would 
like it operating before I take any long distance trips.

Thanks in advance,
Jim Rogers
San Juan Capistrano, CA






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References: <773FAE66.1412C28F.35F0D5DB@aol.com>
  from [151.201.120.178] at Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:23:43 -0600

Due to warping and distortion during assembly, the tubes are allowed to 
protrude and then machined so they are all on the same plane for a good 
fit. The protrusion will sink into the surface of the gasket a bit, just 
be sure to tighten the bolts in increments moving around the pattern 
much like you would any other component that needs to fit flat and true.

Dave

Dbcooper292@aol.com wrote:

>My header is the same way, and it seemed odd to me too.  I haven't run it yet but it was used, and apparently worked well on the former application, I guess it's normal.
>
>Mark M.






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Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
References: <13873-3FFA10C5-3746@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:


> The Chinese are doing plastic now?
> Where will it all end? <VBG> :)

It ends with you buying the chinese import and throwing it out in the 
dumpster on your way out of the store.
This saves time, AND aggrevation.
Like the Stanley quick change blade utility knife Santa brought me.
Designed in England, made in china, thrown away after 4 people tried to 
install the FIRST blade. New out of the box and in the trash.
It never worked out of the box. Just not worth the trip back to china, I 
mean the mall to exchange it. And for what, another POS chink made 
useless tool that will be DOO? (dead on opening)

Haven't you been to Toys -R- Chinks?  Not a GD toy in the store made 
outside china? And all plastic. They have been doing plastic for years.
Now you know how good their dung forged metal is, imagine their plastics!

I don't know where the plastic diaphram SU *type* fuel pump was made, 
but think about a plastic diaphram. Common sense says it won't last.
One came with the A40 when I bought it. New in a MoProd box. On the road 
in July of 98, fuel pump left us stranded on the way to Carlisle 99, 
about 10 months after it came out of the box.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
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To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: <Dbcooper292@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:34:18 -0500

I gotta admit, I think Porsche's 356B Roadster is the prettiest car ever to
come out of Germany.  I've got a friend's 356B Roadster in my workshop, now
and it stops me in my tracks every time I take the cover off of it.  They
are a car that looks much better "live" than in photos.  But then, my own
356B coupe has the same effect on me.  Those lines are so clean, flowing and
purposeful....no concessions for styling vs. aerodynamics.  The 356s have a
lower CD than the 911s do!  0.31, if memory serves me correctly as opposed
to 0.33 or something like that, for the 911.
Speaking of coupes, I always liked the special, Midget coupes that Abingdon
built for Dick Jacobs, as well as some of the special, Sprite coupes that
Healey built for Sebring and LeMans.  I can't help but think that they would
have been very successful if BMC had decided to refine them a bit and put
them into production.  Nothing like a nice, snug little coupe on a dark,
rainy night, with a few hours travel time ahead.  A hard top on a
convertible/roadster just isn't quite the same....although I have to admit
that my 1500 Spitfire, with factory hardtop, was pretty nice in foul
weather.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 6:31 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Dbcooper292@aol.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: confession time


Bud...

Of course it was a roadster....you're a
class human being!! :):)

We'll ignore the "I prefer the coupe"
statement based upon your reasons
as TR2's & 3's had scuttle shake as well.
as did the Morgan 4+4 my buddy drove.

Never bothered me. Cars are different! :)




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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References: <000501c3d39f$7bb66e40$0ef3bec0@NilesAD.von.gov>

Dave

Pick up a cheapie orange 25' extension cord, use 2 of the 3 wires in it.
It will hold up underground, under car, and even inside a moving door 
jamb for power windows on an Austin A40 ;)
It has 16 gauge wire inside the orange plastic housing and it has a rope 
cord built in for strength.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: Computer problems LBC Related
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Robert E. Shlafer wrote:


> so $227 today.....? Yeah.

$320 now. It's a friggin muffler!
Cherry bomb, $19.95 :)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: FW: SUCCESS!!!!
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Brashear, Jack, N wrote:


> Hi All, I've often wondered about the Antique Tags prices and laws in
> the various states. 


New Jersey chrage $35 one time fee. You do have to rebew it every 3 
years but $0.00 (I just sent my renewal in the other day)
No mileage restrictions that I was told, no other cars needed to get QQs
and I now have 4 QQ tags because our gov mcGREEDY upped all other 
registration fees. so I QQed as many as I could. Even some I still don't 
own ;)
We also only need a rear tag on all antique cars with QQ tags. So I 
really have 8 tags. Ok so I have 2 Sprites with the same chassis ID.
The drones at DMV have no brains, can not hear, no nothing, and just 
don't listen so just don't drive them both at the same time next to each 
other on the same road.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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To: "bill b." <w_burrell@yahoo.com>
CC: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Wee tight piano hinge, seat belt webbing& seat covers
References: <20040106002125.33547.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com>

bill b. wrote:


>>VW back seat belts. late 80s/early 90s GTI, GOLF,

> Would those be two point or three point belts?

3 point. But they have a verticle mount position. there is a tilt ball 
inside. Remove that ball (not the small inertia ball) and they work in 
any direction. Pop off the plastic housing, you will see the ball, it's 
about a 1/2" diameter. pop it out, replace the plastic and it's good to go.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Antique plates
  from [151.201.120.178] at Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:09:21 -0600

Pennsylvania charges $75 for an antique plate + title transfer fees of 
$22.50. The plate applies to vehicles 25 years or older. Four exterior 
photos (1 of each side and end) are required. Limits use to parades, 
club activities, tours, ocasional transportation and similar uses (one 
day a week for the last two items). Driven only in daylight hours they 
are exempt from the current lighting requirements but must have any 
original illumination equipment. The plate is permanent and has no 
renewal fee. Exempt from inspections, must be maintained in ir restored 
to manufacturer specifications. Classic plates follow the same rules but 
apply to vehicles 15 years old or older.

Dave & Bobbie






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To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   "spridget list"
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Subject: RE: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:32:43 -0500

Frank,
While I can assure you that TRF doesn't have it's own Chinese manufacturing
plant, you are not entirely wrong about the Chinese stuff.  It's getting
harder and harder to get away from it, no matter where you go.  My point is
that we should use and insist on the best quality, O.E. type stuff for our
cars, as opposed to buying strictly based upon price.  There is still some
"good stuff" to be had, out there.  By supporting the "good stuff", we
encourage our vendors to look for quality parts as opposed to what I call
"caricature parts".  We are very fortunate in that the overall quality and
selection of parts for our LBCs is far better and more reasonably priced
than that which is available for vintage Volkswagens and Porsches.  Vintage
BMW stuff is mainly available only through salvage yards!
If we don't demand and support quality, we should not expect to get it.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at exit109.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 7:41 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Robert E. Shlafer; spridget list
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion


Wait a minute here, unless things changed in recent years, TRF has it's
OWN chinese manufacturing plant. I recall the TR6 green radiator hoses
turning black all by themselves on the boat ride over.
I stopped by their vending table at Bowie. It was a chinese flea market
of moss crap and other chinese or taiwan junk.
It's too late, the major suppliers sold out to the asians back in the
80s. Oh and beware of those "made in UK" stickers on the stuff from that
UK colony called Hong Kong!
Like the leaf springs made by British Spring UK, they assemble them out
of chinese steel in the UK. You can see the chinese letters on the
springs stamped right in.
Read between the lines people. Lucas "type" is NOT Lucas.

Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.






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Subject: Quality OEM
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Bud

I agree with you 100%.
I have told suppliers about a problem, only one listens and actually 
checks it out and either tells me I am wrong, or he finds a suitable 
replacement or corrects the problem. He is a lister too.
If I make a mistake in my ordering, I'll eat it. (I have)
For me it is NOT the money, I rarely even ask the price, I just want the 
part, and the correct part that will last longer than a month.
I try to get most of my parts at swap meets. Carlisle was a good source 
for NOS but that too is drying up. As are most of the meets. But if I 
see it, I'll buy it because I know I'll use it somewhere down the road.
I am restoring an average of 2.5 Spridgets a year. (for the past 3 years 
now) so I spend a lot of money on parts. I have not, nor will I ever go 
to moss directly. I have never bought from TRF, LBC car co, Scarborougho 
fare, because I have seen their vendors booths and all the cheapo repros 
they are selling. Yes moss crap filters thru the channels and I get 
stuck with it from time to time. But I have been moss free since 1989.
I even met Rube Goldberg CEO moss motors in 1992, I didn't know who he 
was, and he non chalantly asked me where I get my parts, I told him 
anywhere but moss. then he asked why so I told him. He said he would 
personally look into it and get back to me. Well 12 years later, I'm 
still waiting for him to get back to me.
I had a problem with a water pump that fits ALL "A" series motors that I 
bought from a lister/supplier. I told him it didn't fit "All" A series 
engines and I told him why. OK, I had a thin flanged 12cc 1275 and the 
universal water pump would not fit that block. He found one that would 
fit. He didn't know, now he does.
When I got an A+ engine timing gasket in a gasket set from another 
supplier I called to tell them they had a problem. they told ME that the 
part number was correct and my engine was wrong. It was not me, nor my 
engine, it was their part. They lost about a 1000 a year from me.
I am NOT right all the time and I will be the first to admit it when 
proven wrong. But don't sell me crap and don't tell me i am wrong 
without proof.

Back to the original message. I do drive my Sprites, I also have a 
modern car (02 X type Jaguar) and a 01 Ford truck for work. But when the 
day is done and I have to go somewhere, I will jump in a sprite or A40 
long before I hop back in the truck or Jag. I never worry about 
reliability in an LBC. I drove an LBC 50 miles one way to work all thru 
the 70s. Rain, snow, dark, and yes even on sunny days. I was never 
stranded. My 87 Taurus stranded me in 1989 and had to be towed. Never in 
an LBC except once down in MD when the gas pedal linkage broke on the 
A40. I did ask AAA for a welder but they sent a flatbed. Thank goodness 
the Land Rover guys knew how to weld with a car battery and a coat 
hanger. They got me on the road again.
I will drive any LBC anywhere in the US anytime. I will check the oil 
before I depart, and I might grease it up and throw the road trip spares 
bag in the boot if I am going 3+ hours from home.
Should the next Spridgetfest be in California, I will be there and I 
will drive my sprite across the country. If it breaks, then I have 
something to talk about when I get there. I am not going to worry about 
it breaking down. What if my pick up breaks down? It happens, You deal 
with it when it does.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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To: Chris King <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
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Subject: Re: Wee tight
References: <1cf901c3d3ed$1606cc40$0a09010a@mail2world.com>
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Chris King wrote:

>Yes, I was worried, but so far no one has complained. But when
>springtime comes it'll have an exhaust system on it soon after I get it
>roadworthy, so I won't have to worry about it at all. Then I just need
>to figure out what to do with two extra tubs!
>  
>
Lawn ornaments?

Gilroy






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To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   "spridget list"
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Subject: RE: Quality OEM
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 00:10:26 -0500

Frank,
I find we have pretty similar viewpoints and opinions, with the exception of
The Roadster Factory.  I guess it's because I know them personally, have
dealt with them for many years and had good results.  If they finally take
on supplying Spridget parts, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.  Sure,
they sell plenty of pacific rim stuff, but, they also sell the best stuff
they can find, when there is demand for it and when they can get it.
They're faced with "keeping the lights on", as well as trying their best to
offer a quality alternative to the chinese crap.  If some (lets face it,
many) customers demand low price and will go elsewhere to find it, if TRF
won't provide it; why should TRF let Moss or V.B. take those customer's
money?  They can't hope to market top quality replacement parts to those of
us that demand them if they're unable to stay in business.
Hey, BTW, Charles (Runyon, TRF's owner) is restoring a Sprite (B.E.) with
one of his sons.  You may see him at a Spridget nat'l event one of these
days, soon.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at exit109.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:16 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Robert E. Shlafer; spridget list
Subject: Quality OEM


Bud

I agree with you 100%.
I have told suppliers about a problem, only one listens and actually
checks it out and either tells me I am wrong, or he finds a suitable
replacement or corrects the problem. He is a lister too.
If I make a mistake in my ordering, I'll eat it. (I have)
For me it is NOT the money, I rarely even ask the price, I just want the
part, and the correct part that will last longer than a month.
I try to get most of my parts at swap meets. Carlisle was a good source
for NOS but that too is drying up. As are most of the meets. But if I
see it, I'll buy it because I know I'll use it somewhere down the road.
I am restoring an average of 2.5 Spridgets a year. (for the past 3 years
now) so I spend a lot of money on parts. I have not, nor will I ever go
to moss directly. I have never bought from TRF, LBC car co, Scarborougho
fare, because I have seen their vendors booths and all the cheapo repros
they are selling. Yes moss crap filters thru the channels and I get
stuck with it from time to time. But I have been moss free since 1989.
I even met Rube Goldberg CEO moss motors in 1992, I didn't know who he
was, and he non chalantly asked me where I get my parts, I told him
anywhere but moss. then he asked why so I told him. He said he would
personally look into it and get back to me. Well 12 years later, I'm
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: was  Quality OEM--now ROAD TRIP SPARES?
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Hello Frank,

       ok. you know sprites inside and out, forward and backward.
       you're willing to drive one round trip coast to coast.

       the question... you mentioned a "road trip spares bag" if
       you're going 3+ hours from home...

       WHAT'S IN THE BAG?




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 05:37:56 EST
Subject: Re: Quality OEM*
To: spritenut@exit109.com, abcoz@hky.com
CC: PilotRob@webtv.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/5/04 8:25:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
spritenut@exit109.com writes:


> I will drive any LBC anywhere in the US anytime. I will check the oil 
> before I depart, and I might grease it up and throw the road trip spares 
> bag in the boot if I am going 3+ hours from home.
> Should the next Spridgetfest be in California, I will be there and I 
> will drive my sprite across the country. If it breaks, then I have 
> something to talk about when I get there. I am not going to worry about 
> it breaking down. What if my pick up breaks down? It happens, You deal 
> with it when it does.
> 

Great attitude, Frank!  It evidences a spirit that many Americans left far 
behind somewhere and replaced it with whining and complaining.  It's a, "There 
ain't no BAD weather--There's just Weather!" attitude that I like.

--David C.






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:25:16 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget
  list)
Subject: Re: Quality OEM
  Jan 2004 23:16:05 -0500

"What if my pick-up breaks down? You
deal with it when it does"

There you go. Reality.

The are times I spend on quality OEM
parts. Safety/quality becomes the priority
in parts such as brakes, A-frames, wheels, tires, etc...you know...the
important stuff.

But I won't go nuts on parts such as
bumperettes, grilles, etc. Hell with 'em...
run without the former, modify and paint
the latter.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan  6 05:32:36 2004
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From "Allen Kramer" <allenk at zdial.com>
To: "Jim Rogers" <jarplanner@cox.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>, <bugeye@yahoogroups.com>
References: <3FFA1A4E.2070402@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Gage Readings
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:28:24 -0500

Jim,
This was previously posted for a bugeye fuel tank sender unit . 

0 Ohms Probably a broken lead wire. Maybe a bad ground.
14 Ohms Full tank.
90 Ohms Approximately 1/2 tank.
258 Ohms You ought to be lookin' for gas.

Hope it helps,
Allen

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Jim Rogers" <jarplanner at cox.net>
To: <bugeye@yahoogroups.com>; "Spridget Group" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:15 PM
Subject: Fuel Gage Readings


> I need wisdom from the List regarding either the fuel gauge or the 
> sending unit ( actually both, duh).
> 
> My fuel gauge needle first went immediately to Full when I turned the 
> key. Since I had less than 1 gallon in the tank, I knew this was not 
> correct. I thought I remembered something about reversing the B & T wire 
> connections when a car is converted from positive to negative ground. 
> Since I have switched to negative, I switch the 2 wires going to the 
> fuel gauge. Needle went to Empty. But with so little gasoline in tank I 
> thought this might be close. I filled the tank at the local gas station 
> (furtherst ride in Bugeye yet! Yea!), and the gauge still reads empty!!
> 
> I had cleaned the fuel sending unit, making sure the float arm was loose 
> and wire connections good, but I really don't know if the unit was good. 
> I added a grounding wire to the unit (from 1 of the six screws to the 
> body). Might this be causing the problem?
> 
> Any suggestions as to how to check either the fuel gauge or sending 
> unit. Is there any way of checking sending unit without draining & 
> removing tank?
> 
> Driving locally, I can live without the fuel gauge working, but I would 
> like it operating before I take any long distance trips.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Jim Rogers
> San Juan Capistrano, CA






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From Larry Macy <macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu>
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Date: Tue,  6 Jan 2004 09:08:44 -0500
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: San Fran at 6 AM
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Well it's Tuesday and it must be San Francisco. 

I can not believe I didn't say something to the left coasters ;-) 

Well it is right after the holidays and, unfortunately, I had a death in 
Theresa's family the days before Xmas. Can I use that as an excuse??

Well I am in San Fran for MacWorld, I thought my schedule was full, after 
all it IS the 20th anniversay of the Mac. Anyway I find I am a bit free for 
Tuesday night in San Francisco. I flew out on Sunday, took 18 hours with all 
the snow in Chi-Town. Got here at 2 AM PST after leaving home at 10 AM EST. 
I had Monday booked up and I am leaving on Wed PM for the Redeye back to 
philly.  

If anyone is in the area I would like to try and meet ya tonight to quaff a 
couple. 

I know this is like really short notice, but hey what can I say?? I thought 
this trip was about my Mac (work) life and I find I have some time to spend 
with friends instead. 

Drop me an eamil if you are in the area and want meet the glorious and 
wonderful me!!

Larry
PS my cell is 215-275-2823 and will be on betwixt 12 and 1 and after 5. 




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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:30:10 -0500 (EST)
To: macy@bbl.med.upenn.edu (Larry Macy)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: San Fran at 6 AM
  Jan 2004 09:08:44 -0500

"Can I use that as an excuse?"

You bet you can wonderful you.

Happy New Year (anyway) to you and
your's Dr. Larry. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:44:02 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget 	List)
Subject: Re: Computer problems LBC Related
  Jan 2004 21:57:48 -0500

"It's a friggin' muffler"

Frank, Frank....I am shocked, surprised,
nay...mortified!! You were in the biz!!!!

It's an Abarth....a "period" piece. 

OTOH...I once had a period piece...oh,
wrong list! Sorry. :(




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:51:04 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget list)
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
  Jan 2004 21:28:35 -0500

"Think about a plastic diaphragm."

(Thinking............!!)

Well, there are "plastics" that hold up well in fuel. The later floats
in fuel bowls,
fr'instance.

But like anything else, there's "good stuff"
and "bad stuff" and "quality" is what you're
talking about as in "fit and suitable for
application".

There really is no way of getting away from this stuff. "Toys are
Chinks"...this
is a good one!! Keep 'em coming! :):):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:53:25 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: Dbcooper292@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: confession time
  21:34:18 -0500

Yep..

Bathtub Porschi are in a class of their
own. Ragtop, hardtop whatever.....
beautiful machines.

My favorite...355 Speedster with it's
almost non-existent convertible top.
I love the look of these classy cars! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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  process doing -bs
From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
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References: <13625-3FFACB58-3402@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:00:53 -0600

> There really is no way of getting away from this stuff. "Toys are
> Chinks"...this
> is a good one!! Keep 'em coming! :):):)

You know, this is probably the same thing that was flooding the european
email lists after WWI when USian goods started invading their markets.
David Lieb






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Subject: Pressure regulator sale
From "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne at unc.edu>
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Good Morning all,

Just a follow up on the pressure regulator discussion.  Victoria British
currently has them on sale for $25 in their winter special catalog.  If you
tell them you are using the normal spridget catalog they9ll tell you the
price is $50 or $60.

Mike Gagne






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:01:34 EST
Subject: Re: was  Quality OEM--now ROAD TRIP SPARES?
To: pythias@pacifier.com, spritenut@exit109.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/05/2004 10:25:54 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
pythias@pacifier.com writes:
     the question... you mentioned a "road trip spares bag" if
       you're going 3+ hours from home...

       WHAT'S IN THE BAG?
another spridget...

Robert Houston

The Supreme Court ruled there cannot be a nativity scene
 in Washington,DC this Christmas.
 This isn't for any religious or constitutional reason,
 they simply have not been able to find three wise men or
 a virgin in the nation's capitol.
 There was no problem however finding enough asses to
 fill the stable






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: what's in the bag?  "road trips"
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:33:46 -0500

a fuel pump, a lodaed distributor(or cap rotor, points and condenser) , set
of plugs, some basic tools, a fan belt, and duct tape!
hey!  what would life be like without a roll of duct tape!  (possibly a bit
less sticky?)   and possibly a roll of electrical tape too.   at times i
also carried a 1 gallon (antifreeze jug) of water and a quart or two of
motor oil.
with this stuff packed you can practically restore a car curb side!

chuck.
frank?  what did i forget?  :)  (possibly a 6 pack of beer for the totally
hopeless moments?  LOL!)






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: <Dbcooper292@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:34:36 -0500

Funny how the least expensive, bottom of the line 356 has become the most
valuable, sought after of all 356s.  Top quality Speedsters are bringing
upwards of $50K, while a coupe, in comparable condition, will bring
$20K-$25K.  Seems the open-top 356s are the most valuable, even though the
Speedster was not a Porsche idea, at all and the cabriolet models were not
considered by Porsche to be the 356 to be the most technically advanced.
The Speedster was the brainchild of U.S. foreign car distributing magnate
Max Hoffman and was subsequently built with the USA market in mind.
Like I've been telling my Porsche friends, however: As far as maximum bang
for the buck, the Spridget is supreme.  They're practical (well, sort of),
reliable and riotous fun in which to attack tightly winding back-roads.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:53 AM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Dbcooper292@aol.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: confession time


Yep..

Bathtub Porschi are in a class of their
own. Ragtop, hardtop whatever.....
beautiful machines.

My favorite...355 Speedster with it's
almost non-existent convertible top.
I love the look of these classy cars! :)




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Charles Christ" <cfchrist@earthlink.net>,
   "spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <003401c3d472$dc69fe40$c3fb45cf@fred>
Subject: Re: what's in the bag?  "road trips"
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:51:47 -0500

It has been said that there are only two things required in a tool box:  Duct
tape, for putting two things together, and WD40 for everyting else!!!

I have a friend, demented, that has Maserati Bi-Turbos:  his tool box consists
of a cell phone with the car hauler company as #1 on the speed dial!!!!!

But I like chuck's list better.

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:33 AM
Subject: what's in the bag? "road trips"


> a fuel pump, a lodaed distributor(or cap rotor, points and condenser) , set
> of plugs, some basic tools, a fan belt, and duct tape!
> hey!  what would life be like without a roll of duct tape!  (possibly a bit
> less sticky?)   and possibly a roll of electrical tape too.   at times i
> also carried a 1 gallon (antifreeze jug) of water and a quart or two of
> motor oil.
> with this stuff packed you can practically restore a car curb side!
>
> chuck.
> frank?  what did i forget?  :)  (possibly a 6 pack of beer for the totally
> hopeless moments?  LOL!)






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Subject: Non LBC - CWG
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:06:50 -0800
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From "Bill Hunt" <Billh at aaai.com>
To: <Spridgets@autox.team.net>

http://www.ampcast.com/music/12031/artist.php



Check out the song "Cows With Guns" on this page. It is "preaching" a
message but still is very funny.



Herby

64 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)

62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)

billh@aaai.com

www.herbytoys.com <http://www.herbytoys.com/>






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan  6 10:25:41 2004
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From "Larry Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
To: "Bill Hunt" <Billh@aaai.com>, <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Non LBC - CWG
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:24:40 -0800

That's not the best song on the page. Check out:

 "I'd Go Anywhere To Fight For Oil To Lubricate The Red White & Blue" 

ROTFLMAO

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Bill Hunt" <Billh at aaai.com>
To: <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: Non LBC - CWG


> http://www.ampcast.com/music/12031/artist.php
> 
> 
> 
> Check out the song "Cows With Guns" on this page. It is "preaching" a
> message but still is very funny.
> 
> 
> 
> Herby
> 
> 64 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
> 
> 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
> 
> billh@aaai.com
> 
> www.herbytoys.com <http://www.herbytoys.com/>






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From Jay Fishbein <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
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To: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Auto Part needed - No LBC

My 95 Chev K1500 through an interpreter (mechanics computer and code 
check) has told me that it needs a new ABS pump. Apparently this little 
part costs around $1,000. according to the shop.

Does anyone have any suggestions where I might source this at a (ahem) 
more reasonable price?

TIA, jay
-- 

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Auto Part needed - No LBC
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:26:39 -0500

Jay:  How about the internet?

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.....but seriously, if you do find one cheaper,
will the mechanic install it for you?  I have always been under the impression
that bringing you're own parts was the equivilant of bringing your own bacon and
eggs to a restaurant to be cooked for you.

In other words, I'm no help at all here.....

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini



----- Original Message ----- 
From "Jay Fishbein" <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:58 PM
Subject: Auto Part needed - No LBC


> My 95 Chev K1500 through an interpreter (mechanics computer and code
> check) has told me that it needs a new ABS pump. Apparently this little
> part costs around $1,000. according to the shop.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions where I might source this at a (ahem)
> more reasonable price?






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From "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller at kencomp.net>
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Subject: Re: what's in the bag?  "road trips"
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:29:35 -0000

I would add:

Some soft tying wire
A tube of silicon gasket sealer
2 or 3 yards of "smoke sealed" electric wire
Some zip ties
A small plastic bag containing a few assorted nuts & bolts.
A canister of tyre sealer/ inflator  ( I haven't actually carried a spare
for over 10 years)

Guy

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:33 PM
Subject: what's in the bag? "road trips"


> a fuel pump, a lodaed distributor(or cap rotor, points and condenser) ,
set
> of plugs, some basic tools, a fan belt, and duct tape!
> hey!  what would life be like without a roll of duct tape!  (possibly a
bit
> less sticky?)   and possibly a roll of electrical tape too.   at times i
> also carried a 1 gallon (antifreeze jug) of water and a quart or two of
> motor oil.
> with this stuff packed you can practically restore a car curb side!
>
> chuck.
> frank?  what did i forget?  :)  (possibly a 6 pack of beer for the totally
> hopeless moments?  LOL!)






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From Jay Fishbein <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
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  <00e701c3d48b$0281ceb0$0300a8c0@upstairs>

I hear ya and agree 100%, but my man will in this case. He actually 
recommended that I NOT replace it due to the cost of the part. I would 
just feel better with the abs operating. It's saved me more than once.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>

Geoff Branch wrote:

>will the mechanic install it for you?  I have always been under the impression
>that bringing you're own parts was the equivilant of bringing your own bacon and
>eggs to a restaurant to be cooked for you.






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Subject: Re: Auto Part needed - No LBC
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:01:38 -0800

> > Does anyone have any suggestions where I might source this at a (ahem)
> > more reasonable price?

I have had excellent results from Cascade Auto Recyclers in Lebanon, OR.
Mikie will ship anywhere, and always guarantees his used parts. They have a
1-800 number, but I can't put my hands on it at the moment. If you decide to
call, be sure to ask for "Mikie". Gary bought a radiator a few years ago,
and it leaked. He told him to take it to the best repair shop in town, and
have the bill sent to him. The repair bill was over twice what the radiator
cost.  This is the type of business I like to recommend.

Kate






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Subject: Another V8 Bugeye
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 15:02:24 -0500
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  i06K40om029828

I have a chance to look at a Bugeye with a 302 V8 at the weekend.  So far that's all the detail I have on the mechanical spec, but the few pictures I've seen seem to indicate that more than just the engine is non-original (I think I can see 5 lug nuts on the wheels - but the angle is not good).  The woman selling it knows nothing about it, so there's no point in my asking her - I'll need to see for myself just what was done.

The body looks good in the pictures, and the only external modifications are a subtle hood scoop and side pipes, so it doesn't look bad (unlike the one someone posted a message about the other day!).

What do you all think?  Any point in even considering this thing?  I'm guessing that there's a good chance it'll handle like a brick...

Phil






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From "Mike Gigante" <mg at sgi.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: visiting again
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 07:07:27 +1100

I'll be in Minneapolis Wed 14 - Mon 19 Jan, NYC Tues 20 - Fri 23 Jan 
(for the linuxworld conference), and the bay area Sat 24 - Wed 28 Jan

If there are any LBC or other fun events that coincide with my visit
please let me know.

cheers, Mike






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:12:32 -0800
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I don't think there are any LBC events near New York (not quite the
season!), but I'm sure some of the listers in the area could swing in
one evening for a pint. I work about 1/2 hour at most from Manhattan
(which includes sitting in traffic at the tunnels), so I'm game.  Is
linuxworld at the Javits Center?
 
-=Chris

Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Mike Gigante
Sent: 1/6/2004 3:05:27 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: visiting again 

I'll be in Minneapolis Wed 14 - Mon 19 Jan, NYC Tues 20 - Fri 23 Jan 
(for the linuxworld conference), and the bay area Sat 24 - Wed 28 Jan 

If there are any LBC or other fun events that coincide with my visit 
please let me know. 

cheers, Mike 

. 






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From "Chris T Weber" <weberct at msn.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: headlights needed
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:21:21 +0000
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Hello all,

Working on my '60 Bugeye.  I am in need of complete headlight assemblies 
(bucket to trim & everything in between) for my bugeye.  Anyone have any of 
these pieces they would sell me?

Regards,

Chris
'60 Bugeye
Pacific Northwest

_________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Midget Treasure Trove
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From "Brashear, Jack, N" <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>
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Cc: <dougzahn@arkansasweb.com>

Hi All, found in central Arkansas - 3 Midgets.  One 74?? RWA with WW is
a complete car and has clear title and will run and drive with battery.
Needs hydraulics work to be safe.  Has cracked windshield but includes
extra good glass.  Otherwise, needs cosmetic restoration.  All three
cars are roll-up window and all are on suspension and will roll.  The
two untitled cars can be combined into one complete car.  Neither has an
engine but one has a rib case tranny.  One is RWA with Rostyles.  The
other is SWA with WW and its body shell is in good condition.  There are
many original parts for both cars.  One of these two is stored inside in
the dry.  The other is outside but covered.  Call or Email the owner
directly.  I have no financial interest in any of these cars.  They just
need a good home and someone who needs a fairly simple project.  Just
bring a trailer and come get them in the Little Rock area.  $1500 takes
the whole lot.  Contact Doug Zahn at 501-455-2562 or Email to
dougzahn@arkansasweb.com     C'mon folks....don't let these jewels go to
the crusher.  Such a deal!!

Jack






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From "Mike Gigante" <mg at sgi.com>
To: "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: visiting again
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 08:05:00 +1100

Hey Chris,

Yep it is at the Javits Center. It would be good to share a pint or two.

I haven't been to NYC for 15 years! So I'll leave the recommendations to
you. I'll
be using a cab while I'm there so anywhere in cab-friendly distance is fine.

Mike

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Chris King [mailto:cbking@alum.rpi.edu]
  Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 7:13 AM
  To: mg@sgi.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
  Subject: Re: visiting again


  I don't think there are any LBC events near New York (not quite the
season!), but I'm sure some of the listers in the area could swing in one
evening for a pint. I work about 1/2 hour at most from Manhattan (which
includes sitting in traffic at the tunnels), so I'm game.  Is linuxworld at
the Javits Center?

  -=Chris

  Chris King
  http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

   <-----Original Message----->

            From: Mike Gigante
        Sent: 1/6/2004 3:05:27 PM
        To: spridgets@autox.team.net
        Subject: visiting again

        I'll be in Minneapolis Wed 14 - Mon 19 Jan, NYC Tues 20 - Fri 23 Jan
        (for the linuxworld conference), and the bay area Sat 24 - Wed 28
Jan

        If there are any LBC or other fun events that coincide with my visit
        please let me know.

        cheers, Mike

        .






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401060214.i062EWca031684@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:03:24 -0500

Cap'n. Bob wrote:
> Using the rotary engine as an example....this was state
> of the art back in 1917. 

Wow! You've been flying a lot longer than I thought. :-)

Kent
'56 100 BN2






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean@mindspring.com>,
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Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:21:08 -0500

Isn't that why he retired? 

Geoff Branch 
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives


> Cap'n. Bob wrote:
> > Using the rotary engine as an example....this was state
> > of the art back in 1917. 
> 
> Wow! You've been flying a lot longer than I thought. :-)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan  6 14:49:53 2004
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From busyrider at springmail.com
To: Geoff Branch <gjbranch@comcast.net>,
   Kent McLean
  <kentmclean@mindspring.com>,
   Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives

Retired? Are you sure? Read his emails. Sounds to me like he's flying.

-----Original Message-----
From Geoff Branch <gjbranch at comcast.net>
Sent: Jan 6, 2004 4:21 PM
To: Kent McLean <kentmclean@mindspring.com>, 
	Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives

Isn't that why he retired? 

Geoff Branch 
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives


> Cap'n. Bob wrote:
> > Using the rotary engine as an example....this was state
> > of the art back in 1917. 
> 
> Wow! You've been flying a lot longer than I thought. :-)






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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
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Sounds good. Let's see if some other area listers chime in. :) There are
certainly no shortage of pubs within cab distance of Javits! :)
 
BTW, will you have email access while you're in the states? Reason I as
is that I'm heading to Puerto Rico for a vacation this Thursday, Jan 8th
and won't be returning till the 17th, by which time you'll be in
Minneapolis.
 
-=Chris


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Mike Gigante
Sent: 1/6/2004 4:03:00 PM
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: visiting again 

Hey Chris, 

Yep it is at the Javits Center. It would be good to share a pint or two.
I haven't been to NYC for 15 years! So I'll leave the recommendations to
you. I'll 
be using a cab while I'm there so anywhere in cab-friendly distance is
fine. 

Mike 

-----Original Message----- 
From Chris King [mailto:cbking at alum.rpi.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 7:13 AM 
To: mg@sgi.com; spridgets@autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: visiting again 


I don't think there are any LBC events near New York (not quite the 
season!), but I'm sure some of the listers in the area could swing in
one 
evening for a pint. I work about 1/2 hour at most from Manhattan (which 
includes sitting in traffic at the tunnels), so I'm game. Is linuxworld
at 
the Javits Center? 

-=Chris 

Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 






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To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401062016.i06KGrtp030210@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Auto Part needed - No LBC
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:06:23 -0500

Jay Fishbein wrote:
> I would
> just feel better with the abs operating. It's saved me more than once.

Then spend the money on a driving school and learn
how to threshold brake.  And that skill will work in
any car, even a Spridget.

HTH,
Kent






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:28:29 -0500 (EST)
To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: kentmclean@mindspring.com (Kent McLean),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives
  Jan 2004 16:21:08 -0500

"Isn't that why he retired?"

ROTFLMAO!!

Retirement wasn't my idea and in
any case....

...in order to understand "today", you've gotta be able to understand
"yesterday". You can get as automated
as you damn well please; in the end it
comes down to educated "hands on" & "stick & rudder". 

The current mandatory US airline pilot retirement age is (by Federal
Law), 60.

Prior to "Osama day", the House passed
a bill that would have returned it to the
prior 65. On 9/25/01, the Senate was to
hold hearings on their version (age 63) 
of a revised US airline pilot retirement
age bill, while taking the House version
into consideration.

The rest is recent history. Them's the
breaks!! Welcome to reality! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan  6 15:35:26 2004
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From "Mike Gigante" <mg at sgi.com>
To: "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: visiting again
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:33:48 +1100

Yep, mg@sgi will work for all but NYC (and maybe I can get the s/w VPN
setup by then too). mikeg35au@yahoo.com.au will also work (everywhere)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets-mod at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets-mod@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Chris King
Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 8:59 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: visiting again


Sounds good. Let's see if some other area listers chime in. :) There are
certainly no shortage of pubs within cab distance of Javits! :)
 
BTW, will you have email access while you're in the states? Reason I as
is that I'm heading to Puerto Rico for a vacation this Thursday, Jan 8th
and won't be returning till the 17th, by which time you'll be in
Minneapolis.
 
-=Chris






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Subject: RE: visiting again
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:36:15 +1100

-----Original Message-----
From Mike Gigante [mailto:mg at sgi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 9:34 AM
To: Bill Hunt; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: visiting again



Hi Bill,

I think Gerard has volunteered to coordinate a BA roundup.
Either a place for a few pints or a weekend drive.

I'm staying in Mountain View but I can travel anywhere in 
the area. Heck, I think I'm travelling up to Chico to meet 
an ex-student of mine! (unless he chooses to come to SF)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From Bill Hunt [mailto:Billh at aaai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 8:18 AM
To: Mike Gigante; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: visiting again


Don't know of any events at that time (at least not local) but would be
willing to quaff a pint or two. Are you staying in S.F.? 

Anybody else in the area, Gerard, Larry M, Larry P?

Herby
64 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
billh@aaai.com
www.herbytoys.com






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From Gbouff1 at aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:37:17 EST
Subject: Accident, paint match, insurance woes
To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com, spridgets@autox.team.net, Triumphs@autox.team.net

In November, someone backed into my TR3A and damaged the left front wing.  We 
exchanged information and had a cop come to write up a report.  So far, so 
good.

Liberty Mutual gives me an estimated payment that seems low, but said that 
they would discuss it with the body shop if there was a problem.  This is where 
I should have started to worry.

I brought the car to a shop that specializes in Hot Rods, Corvette, etc. and 
has a very good reputation in the area.  My TR3A is Silverstone Gray, a local 
paint shop, that I purchased my paint original paint from, used a computer 
plus ended up doing some additional hand mixing to match the original 40+ year 
old paint in order to get an almost identical match (operatitve word is almost). 
 In fact I went back to get a pint of touch-up color made up and they weren't 
able to match the color they sold me.  I told this to the Body Shop guy and 
he said that it would not be a problem, they could match the paint.  The body 
shop that I chose uses the same PPG paint that I used. Great!  I told him that 
I expect an exact match as this is not an 81 Ford escort that he will work on.

Just before Christmas I get a call, the car is ready.  Great job on the body 
work, flawless paint finish, Siverstone gray is a warm gray, the new gray on 
the fender is a cool gray.  I bring this to the shop owners attention and he 
said that the went thru two batches of paint and that was as close as they could 
get.  He then agreed with me that maybe he could do better.  Last week I get 
a call that the car is ready.  Match is much closer, but no cigar.  Shop owner 
states that the only way to get it better is to paint the whole car.  In 
order to do that I need to get cheapskate Liberty Mutual to spring for it.

Today, Liberty Mutual sent a superviser down to the paint shop.  The shop 
owner gives me a call a leaves a message that the Liberty Mutual superviser 
states that the paint job is fine.  Get a hold of the snotty superviser but end up 
with no resolution.

I am going to report this to the Connecticut Insurance Commisioner, to see if 
I can get some remedy.  I don't know what the shop owner expects from me, but 
I am reluctant to cash the check from Liberty Mutual, they make take that as 
acceptance of their pitiful allowance.  I may try to see if the body shop will 
take the portion of the estimate for only the bodywork.

Does anyone have any other suggestions on what to do.  Am I being too picky?  
If I can't get a resolution, the way I feel right now, I will probably put 
the TR3 up for sale.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Gary Bouffard
59 TR3A  (probably going to arbitration)
59 Bugeye (work in process)






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Auto Part needed - No LBC
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

RE:
> Then spend the money on a driving school and learn
> how to threshold brake.  And that skill will work in
> any car, even a Spridget.
> 
> HTH,
> Kent


Gee, I thought that it was just being intuitive when I
discovered that when you stop it happens quicker if
your tires are not sliding; rain, snow or dry.:-)
cheers, bill b.

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:55:57 -0500 (EST)
To: Phil.Profili@cptii.com (Phil Profili)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Another V8 Bugeye
  Jan 2004 15:02:24 -0500

Phil...

Strictly a case of personal interest and
personal inspection in a land which
respects "different strokes, for different
folks at different times"! :):)

You might buy it as an "investment" to
be "turned" for a profit in future though,
if the condition is right for the price, 
your "personal" BE priorities notwithstanding! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Jay Fishbein <type79@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Auto Part needed - No LBC
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Hello Jay,

       i don't know about your specific part, but these guys
       www.franklinautoparts.com had pertronix ignitions at the
       cheapest anywhere! worth a shot.




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:21:34 -0500 (EST)
To: busyrider@springmail.com
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   kentmclean@mindspring.com (Kent
  	McLean),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives
  16:48:24 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

"Sound to me like he's flying"

Yep!! My soul is pure! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:23:07 -0500 (EST)
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Cc: mg@sgi.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: visiting again
  2004 13:58:50 -0800

"I am heading to PR this Thursday..."

Gee, Chris. You're gonna miss this
week's influx of Canadian cold air.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Bill L <pythias@pacifier.com>
CC: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: was  Quality OEM--now ROAD TRIP SPARES?
References: <NGBBKOMNILJCEADKHKJOIEIEEDAA.abcoz@hky.com>
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Bill L wrote:


>        the question... you mentioned a "road trip spares bag" if
>        you're going 3+ hours from home...
> 
>        WHAT'S IN THE BAG?

1 spare dizzy ready to pop in complete with wires.
4 (sometimes 8) spark plugs
SU float needles because PIECES runs SUs
pair of new radiator hoses
1 set of front wheel bearings
1 rear axle bearing
points, cond, rotor in addition to the spare dizzy.
Misc wire ties, a couple lug nuts, some nuts and bolts, fuses.
A length of 1/2" heater hose, some wire.
1 good used working elec fuel pump.
extra accell cable.
I have a spare axle bolted inside the front wheel well on each Sprite
because I snapped one away from home once (cheap insurance)

I also have a basic small tool kit and that has some extra nuts bolts, 
wire, fuses, and misc stuff that just accumulated over the years.
Each car has it's own tool kit and each kit has 4 spark plugs in it.
So sometimes I probably have 12 extra plugs with me and somebody always 
needs a set at the meet.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:48:53 -0500 (EST)
To: millerls@ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Cc: Billh@aaai.com (Bill Hunt), Spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Non LBC - CWG
  2004 09:24:40 -0800

These are great!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:56:48 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: Dbcooper292@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: confession time
  11:34:36 -0500

Really...

The Speedster was Hoffman's idea?
Good for him. He really hit the mark
though I understand the 356 was 
"more" a Porsche.

Yes....most "bang for the buck" =
Spridget. Totally agree. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
CC: Jay Fishbein <type79@ix.netcom.com>,
   Spridget List
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Computer problems LBC Related
References: <13622-3FFAC9B2-7082@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net>

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> "It's a friggin' muffler"
> 
> Frank, Frank....I am shocked, surprised,
> nay...mortified!! You were in the biz!!!! 
> It's an Abarth....a "period" piece. 

Yeah and we sold them for $29 I think. Same price as a tonneau cover at 
the time. Yeah, expensive but today an expensive muffler is $100 not $300!
Hell I did my BMW with a Borla system from the cat back for under $200 a 
couple years ago.

> OTOH...I once had a period piece...oh,
> wrong list! Sorry. :(

Yeah, I once had a piece period. Oh yeah, wrong list.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:58:00 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: what's in the bag?  "road trips"
  6 Jan 2004 11:33:46 -0500

"Frank! What did I forget?"

Cellphone! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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CC: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
References: <13625-3FFACB58-3402@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net>

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> "Think about a plastic diaphragm."
> 
> (Thinking............!!)
> 
> Well, there are "plastics" that hold up well in fuel. The later floats
> in fuel bowls,
> fr'instance.


Yes but they just sit there and "float" they don't move in and out like 
a rubber diaphram. Now picture it again..........
Rubber diaphram moving.....hard plastic diaphram moving. Which one would 
you want on your fuel pump?
I know what one cracked on mine.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:02:39 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget list)
Subject: Re: Pressure regulator suggestion
  Jan 2004 18:58:18 -0500

Really...?

Relatively "hard" plastic for a diaphragm?
What the f--k!!??? That's crazy on the
face of it!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:08:09 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget 	List)
Subject: Re: Computer problems LBC Related
  Jan 2004 18:55:56 -0500

Heh, heh...

I've got the single rear portion of an
RC40 now but when it goes, it'll be
back to a Cherry Bomb or Thrush.

Not only are they way less expensive
but they are smaller and far easier to
fit. And a sportscar should SOUND
like a sportscar anyway. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: No LBC - Removing paint from bakelite?

I've got an old, heavy, bakelite telephone that's been painted yellow many years ago.  The stuff was brushed on and appears quite tough (the paint has chipped in a few places).

Anybody have any suggestions for getting back to the bakelite finish on this thing?

 - K






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CC: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Auto Part needed - No LBC
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Jay Fishbein wrote:

> My 95 Chev needs a new ABS pump. Apparently this little 
> part costs around $1,000. according to the shop.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions 

Pull the plug and the dash light bulb.
Buy a for sale sign for a buck and stick it in the window.
Or just pull the plug and light and drive like we did before we had ABS.
Well you did ask for suggestions :)
Maybe a new truck?
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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To: Phil Profili <Phil.Profili@cptii.com>
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Another V8 Bugeye
References: <5481586103A64144B90689B4094E3DDA0DF65F@cptiis3.cptii.net>

Phil Profili wrote:


> What do you all think?  Any point in even considering this thing?  I'm guessing that there's a good chance it'll handle like a brick...

Phil

I rode in a 283 Chevy V8 Sprite back in the 60s. The kid across the 
street made one. We did wheelies down the hiway. It was a 3 speed.
A brick would handle much better. It is a straight line drag racer, 
don't even think about turning it. His car lasted him all of 2 weeks 
before the engine just ripped the car apart. Of course he was a kid, I 
was a younger kid, and I am sure his was not done very well.
He used a Jeep CJ3 rear axle, it fit right under the Sprite. So I guess 
he had one heluva diff ratio huh?
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time

  Would this be a good time to 'confess' how boring I think all the 356s look?  'course, most of what I've seen were race cars...
  Ed in NC  ;-) :-) :-)






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Subject: Re: No LBC - Removing paint from bakelite?
References: <32025615.1073434132827.JavaMail.root@scooter.psp.pas.earthlink.net>

You could try aircraft remover or some other good paint stripper.
Try a spot first, test the time too. It might work.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 19:52:08 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: RE: confession time
  19:35:17 -0500

Oh c'mon "catman"! :)

355/6's are as boring as Spridgets!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Smith's Dash Clock (Special for Frank)
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

I was at Restoration Hardware in the local mall
looking at the clearance items.  They had a group of
plastic "Smith's" table clocks that the packaging said
were designed to be like those found in fine English
cars.  They were about the size of the combination
gauge and sure looked like the real thing.  Turned it
over, you guessed it, "Made in China"

Rick

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From "Dan Walters" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
To: "'Chris King'" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, <mg@sgi.com>,
   <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: visiting again
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:43:08 -0500

Keep me in the loop, I'll certainly try to make it up to the city if I
can.

Dan Walters
'63 Sprite
'74 Midget
Brick NJ


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris King
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:59 PM
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Subject: RE: visiting again


Sounds good. Let's see if some other area listers chime in. :) There are
certainly no shortage of pubs within cab distance of Javits! :)
 
BTW, will you have email access while you're in the states? Reason I as
is that I'm heading to Puerto Rico for a vacation this Thursday, Jan 8th
and won't be returning till the 17th, by which time you'll be in
Minneapolis.
 
-=Chris


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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: <Dbcooper292@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:47:14 -0500

Yep.  Hoffman was a visionary, for sure.  I understand the BMW 2002 was his
idea, too.
Not quite sure what you mean about the 356 being more a Porsche.  The
Speedster is a 356.  Same chassis and mechanicals as the coupes.  More
spartan interior, no roll up windows and a slightly different dash
configuration.  Just kills me to remember the time when a good, solid
Speedster could be had for about $1500-$1800.  Talk about a lot of bang for
the buck, even in those days.  And there were always some available in my
area, back in the 60s.  What's that old German saying about ve get too soon
oldt undt to late schmardt.  Ja.  That's it.
Hey, check out the up-coming event on the left coast, next summer.  They're
having an International Speedster-Fest.  I understand there'll be cars
(Speedsters, of course) coming in from around the globe.  I'm sure many of
the more exotic Speedsters (the ultra rare 1600 GS/GTs, with their alloy
panels and Carrera 4 cam engines), many with world class racing history,
will be in attendance.  Should be some details on the 356 Registry web site.

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:57 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Dbcooper292@aol.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: confession time


Really...

The Speedster was Hoffman's idea?
Good for him. He really hit the mark
though I understand the 356 was
"more" a Porsche.

Yes....most "bang for the buck" =
Spridget. Totally agree. :)




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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To: "conan" <conan@intrex.net>, "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:50:19 -0500

Well, maybe they do look a bit boring when viewed from strictly in the rear
;)
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:35 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: RE: confession time


  Would this be a good time to 'confess' how boring I think all the 356s
look?  'course, most of what I've seen were race cars...
  Ed in NC  ;-) :-) :-)






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From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
To: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz@hky.com>
CC: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time

  Oh I've only seen them from a spectator's point of view!  :-)  All angles.  Even upside down!  ;-) :-) :-)
  Ed in NC

---------- Original Message ------------------------------
>Well, maybe they do look a bit boring when viewed from strictly in the rear
>;)
>Bud Osbourne






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Subject: RE: confession time
  20:47:14 -0500

Really...

Well, it's education time again for Bob,
yet again!!

What's a Porsche 355? I always thought
this was the Speedster, a forerunner of
the 356 Cabriolet.

BMW 2002...another Hoffman "win".
Had a boss once who had two of these
fine machines, both carbureted. Borrowed
one for a month while looking for a newer
MGB to replace my "older" MGB.

Fine machine...rode, handled and went
very well. Good on gas, too. :) 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: visiting again
To: Chris King <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, mg@sgi.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

--- Chris King <cbking@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
> Sounds good. Let's see if some other area listers
> chime in. :) There are
> certainly no shortage of pubs within cab distance of
> Javits! :)

Last time I went to the NY Auto Show in 1990 at the
Javits, a hooker offered her(?) services to either the
Mrs. or I, as he/she was equipped for either/or. 
Thankfully, NYC doesn't quite have as much character
since Rudy cleaned it up.

=====
Ron Soave

"Chi spende meno spende piu." 
- Aunt Tessie

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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan  6 19:16:28 2004
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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: 948 overheat possible problem

I just discovered a possible overheat problem with the 948 engine.
Particularly the flat therostat housing and a particular stat.
While seeing if the stat worked in my current 948 project engine, I 
cleaned it up, heated it up and sure enough it opened up.
Looking at it in the vice, I saw the flip top flip up to let the water 
thru. Well under that flat housing, that particular stat will not open. 
It will hit the housing long before it fully opens.
Now what came in this engine is not a drop down Smiths or even a modern 
drop down stat. But was this a common available stat back in the early 
60s? If anyone is running that type of stat with the stock stat cover, 
it ain't gonna work.
Maybe this engine was pulled because it had a severe overheating problem 
many years ago? I wonder.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan  6 19:34:56 2004
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From Dean Hedin <dhedin at ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: LBC Art
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:42:08 +0000
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  i072Ytom010931

I whole heartedly suggest we commision this artist to do a piece to
commemorate the 50th anniversery.

http://fp.furzedown.plus.com/pictures.htm .
> This is the work of Nick, one of the regulars on that site. I absolutely
> love it. Ain't that Bentley something?!
> David Lieb






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Subject: Re: LBC Art
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:51:07 -0800

This gentleman is extremely modest about the quality of his work.

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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> I whole heartedly suggest we commision this artist to do a piece to
> commemorate the 50th anniversery.
>
> http://fp.furzedown.plus.com/pictures.htm .
> > This is the work of Nick, one of the regulars on that site. I absolutely
> > love it. Ain't that Bentley something?!
> > David Lieb






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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
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Yeah, the timing is most excellent! ;)
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: 1/6/2004 6:26:07 PM
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu
Cc: mg@sgi.com;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: visiting again 

"I am heading to PR this Thursday..." 

Gee, Chris. You're gonna miss this 
week's influx of Canadian cold air. 




Cap'n. Bob 
'60 :{) 

. 






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To: soavero@yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
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Subject: RE: visiting again
  18:09:36 -0800 (PST)

"Thankfully, NY doesn't have quite as
much character...."

Yeah....:(




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:09:58 -0500 (EST)
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: visiting again
  2004 18:58:09 -0800

"Timing is excellent"

I should say so!! Enjoy!!  I will NOT
be thinking of you....'cause then I'd
have to kill you!! :)

Seriously....have fun. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean@mindspring.com>,
   "Spridgets"
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Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:10:54 -0500

Just bustin' ya, buddy.  I, personally, always want my pilot and my doctor to be
older than I am.  Unfortunately, the vagaries of age and time are squeezing me
in both respects!!!

But seriously:  it doesn't make sense to force retirement on an airline pilot.
He's got to pass a first class medical every six months throughout his
career....jeez, these are some of the healthiest people in the world.  And when
the (ahem) hits the fan, the only hope you have is experience.

But then, the FAA wasn't set up to make sense....

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
Cc: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean@mindspring.com>; "Spridgets"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
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> The current mandatory US airline pilot retirement age is (by Federal
> Law), 60.






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: <Dbcooper292@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:13:37 -0500

A Porsche 355?  Not a car, I know.  Porsche assigned design numbers to all
sorts of different things.  They did a lot of design work for other
automakers.  They also produced a line of industrial motors (used by, among
others, the Luftwaffe for auxiliary power units for starting their F-104s),
farm tractors and a handful of jeep-like vehicles, similar to VWs "Thing",
but with 4wd.  All had their own design numbers.  The design numbers didn't
always get assigned in chronological order, either.
 In the chronological order of things, the 356 coupe came out in '48.  I
believe the 356 cabriolet was introduced in the '51 (or is that '50?) model
year.  The Speedster didn't come upon the scene until the '54 model year.
Funny.  The Germans get all the glory for being the worlds greatest
automotive engineers.  But, take a look at Formula 1.  Without a doubt, the
ultimate in cutting edge, automotive engineering and technology.  But, it's
the Brit engineers who are the dominant engineering force in F-1.  Go
figure.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:02 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Dbcooper292@aol.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: confession time


Really...

Well, it's education time again for Bob,
yet again!!

What's a Porsche 355? I always thought
this was the Speedster, a forerunner of
the 356 Cabriolet.

BMW 2002...another Hoffman "win".
Had a boss once who had two of these
fine machines, both carbureted. Borrowed
one for a month while looking for a newer
MGB to replace my "older" MGB.

Fine machine...rode, handled and went
very well. Good on gas, too. :)




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   "Kendel McCarley"
  <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: No LBC - Removing paint from bakelite?
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:18:03 -0500

The "aircraft remover", and I am assuming that Frank is talking about paint
remover....I have used is nothing more than methylene chloride, same stuff as
Zip Strip.  It destroys plastic...I might have the old lenses from my glasses to
prove it....but I don't know about bakelite.  As Frank says, try a spot...

What about brake fluid?  Seems to strip the paint everytime I've spilled it on
the floor!

Oh, and by the way, don't EVER, EVER get sucked into stripping an entire
airplane.

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at exit109.com>
To: "Kendel McCarley" <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:43 PM
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> You could try aircraft remover or some other good paint stripper.
> Try a spot first, test the time too. It might work.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "conan" <conan@intrex.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:19:28 -0500

I have to admit, I like the look of 356s in street trim better than in race
trim.
One of the most glorious sights I've ever beheld, in racing, was a trio of
Spridgets coming through three abreast at Turn 13 at Nelson Ledges.  They
really looked like they BELONGED there, doing just what they were doing.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of conan
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:56 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: RE: confession time


  Oh I've only seen them from a spectator's point of view!  :-)  All angles.
Even upside down!  ;-) :-) :-)
  Ed in NC

---------- Original Message ------------------------------
>Well, maybe they do look a bit boring when viewed from strictly in the rear
>;)
>Bud Osbourne






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:26:02 -0500 (EST)
To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: kentmclean@mindspring.com (Kent McLean),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: now old times/epic drives
  Jan 2004 22:10:54 -0500

Had nothing to do with the FAA....per se,
Geoff.

Had everything to do with CR Smith, then
founder and CEO of American Airlines
circa '57 when the "age 60 rule" was invoked by the then outgoing FAA
Administrator, Elmo Quasada. who abused his "emergency authority" to 
unilaterally create a Federal Air Reg.
that reduced the mandatory retirement
age from 65 to 60, at the request of
CR.

You see, at the time American was
transitioning to jets. The recent Air Force
and Navy pilots hired had no problem
flying jets 'cause that's what they had
been trained to fly in the service. But
the older pilots who'd been flying slower,
draggier piston powered aircraft and 
who's "muscle memory" was tuned to
non-hydraulic boosted controls took a
lot longer to make the "transition". This
cost CR Smith money in training costs.

Elmo Qusada was an ex-WW2 buddy
of CR. So just before his tenure as
FAA Administrator expired, he did CR
a "favor".

CR returned the favor. Two weeks later
Qusada was sitting on the board of
AMR Corp., the owner of American
Airlines at a very nice annual "retainer",
a position he held for God knows how
many years.

Safety was never a consideration. The
Federal Government is being sued in
Federal Court by a professoinal pilot
group to get the BS "age 60 rule" removed
from the books. It'll take years, believe me! Most especially in view of
the
financial condition of most of the old
majors.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:28:13 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: Dbcooper292@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: confession time
  22:13:37 -0500

Thank you, Bud.

See...I was wrong, yet again!! Appreciate
your taking the time to educate me and
put me correctly "in the know"!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: <Dbcooper292@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: confession time
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:34:07 -0500

Hey, glad to be of service.
BTW.  Did you know that pilots are suspected to be susceptible to 356
addiction?  I've got a Triumph club friend (who does STUNNING restorations),
who flies for US Air.  He's scared to death of even sitting in my 356,
'cause he knows that's all it'll take for him to be hooked.  Better be
careful ;)
Bud

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:28 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Dbcooper292@aol.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: confession time


Thank you, Bud.

See...I was wrong, yet again!! Appreciate
your taking the time to educate me and
put me correctly "in the know"!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:43:07 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: Dbcooper292@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: confession time
  22:34:07 -0500

"Did you know...pilots...356 addiction"

I believe this!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:47:22 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: No LBC - Removing paint from bakelite?
  Jan 2004 22:18:03 -0500

Omigod!!!!!!

I stripped my whole '64 "B"...what a 
job!!!! Never, never again!!! Can't
imagine doing the area of even
a Cherokee!!

I'll tell you...bakelite is pretty hard stuff.

I think I'd try the brake fluid (sparingly)
first, before using the paint stripper
(again, sparingly). Let us know what
works....or doesn't, as the case may be! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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  <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: No LBC - Removing paint from bakelite?
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Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> Omigod!!!!!!
> 
> I stripped my whole '64 "B"...what a 
> job!!!! Never, never again!!!

Yeah, I can relate. I did the yellow Bugeye the first time back in 88 
with stripper. Never again! Now I use sandpaper and an air powered 
machine. It turns a weeks worth of work into a day.
Of course I did have the A40 media blasted but that relates to checkbook 
restoration.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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  from [151.201.123.252] at Tue, 6 Jan 2004 23:08:05 -0600

On delicate items I use stripper from the model railroad shop that is 
made specially for plastics. I think Bakelite is tough enough for most 
chemicals as long as you don't leave it too long. I wiped the blower 
housing on Little Bits with acrylic lacquer thinner before spraying semi 
gloss black on it and it didn't do any harm.

Dave






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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 05:34:51 EST
Subject: Re: No LBC - Removing paint from bakelite?
To: gjbranch@comcast.net, spritenut@exit109.com, kmmccarley@earthlink.net
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/6/04 7:30:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
gjbranch@comcast.net writes:


> The "aircraft remover", and I am assuming that Frank is talking about paint
> remover....I have used is nothing more than methylene chloride, same stuff as
> Zip Strip.  It destroys plastic...I might have the old lenses from my 
> glasses to
> prove it....but I don't know about bakelite.  As Frank says, try a spot...
> 
> What about brake fluid?  Seems to strip the paint everytime I've spilled it 
> on
> the floor!
> 
> Oh, and by the way, don't EVER, EVER get sucked into stripping an entire
> airplane.
> 

Lye is also a known paint remover, but you have to be very careful to follow 
the safety advice, llike rubber gloves, goggles, etc.  The stuff is extremo 
corrosive!  Again, try a spot first.  I'm not sure whether it is reactive with 
plastic or not.  I have used it on wood surfaces with success.

--DAvid C.






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Subject: 15 inch Minilites
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
From Tommy_Samuels at MARKIVAUTO.COM
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:47:04 -0500
  6.0.1|February 07, 2003) at 01/07/2004 11:06:45 AM

Hi list,
I ran across a boneyard with several sets of 15 x 5 1/2 inch , 4 lug, 4 1/2
bolt circle rims.  I think these are the Carrol Shelby SAAB rims.  The nice
part is they fit MGA's and have the proper negative offset.
No financial interest, just a happy customer.
E-mail me off list if you want more info

Tommy
67 Sprite daily driver
60 MGA hot rod project, nearing completion






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan  7 09:14:09 2004
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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:12:28 EST
Subject: Re: Accident, paint match, insurance woes
To: Gbouff1@aol.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/06/2004 3:38:50 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
Gbouff1@aol.com writes:
Does anyone have any other suggestions on what to do.  Am I being too picky?  
If I can't get a resolution, the way I feel right now, I will probably put 
the TR3 up for sale.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Gary Bouffard
I went thru this some years ago with an RX7.  The only time you could really 
see the paint color difference was if you stood 20 feet away and the car was 
wet...but I still didn't like it one bit.  The insurance company did finally 
pay to have the car re-sprayed, but it was a struggle.

Another time on a 71 Saab, the insurance company never gave in, and I had to 
spend the money on the respray myself.

How much for the TR3?

Trade for another BE?

Robert Houston

The Supreme Court ruled there cannot be a nativity scene
 in Washington,DC this Christmas.
 This isn't for any religious or constitutional reason,
 they simply have not been able to find three wise men or
 a virgin in the nation's capitol.
 There was no problem however finding enough asses to
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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan  7 11:59:52 2004
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From "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "Team-Thicko@Autox.Team.Net" <team-thicko@autox.team.net>
Cc: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: technology test
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:56:42 -0600

http://www.thicko.com/thickovr.mov

some of the things we're working on for the new Thicko site.

If you have a broadband connection, test it out. Use your mouse to pan
around.

Thanks to Dr Dreadful for the pic, and Jack Miller who hosts the site...






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan  7 13:50:34 2004
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From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
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Subject: A Must Read Ebay Ad for LBC Part!
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:48:53 +0000

You have to read this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453024118&category=10076

NFI, etc.
Kent
1960 Bugeye






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From "Chris T Weber" <weberct at msn.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Bugeye disk brake conversion
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:58:07 +0000
  FILETIME=[F3C1FFE0:01C3D560]

Can anyone tell me what components are needed from a later Midget to convert 
an early Bugeye to disk brakes.  I apologize for not researching this before 
asking but I am at work and need to know quick.

Thanks!

Chris
'60 Bugeye

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From "Mike Gigante" <mg at sgi.com>
To: "Rick Neville" <healeyrick@yahoo.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: visiting again
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:51:46 +1100

OK, So I better make up that framed piccie of Osa
ma before I leave.

Thanks for the tips, I sure appreciate it and I'll
be sure to use at least one of the phrases. Heck,
I'll spend some time thinking of a way to use them 
all in one paragraph - that will *have* to improve 
my chances!

:-)

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From Rick Neville [mailto:healeyrick at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:48 PM
To: Mike Gigante; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: visiting again


No worries, mate.  I've prepared some easy phrases
that will whisk you through any inspection line:

1.  "Of course I always carry a framed picture of
Osama in my luggage, he's my hero."

2.  "Why yes, these are the same kind of sneakers
Richard Reid wears"

3.  "None of your business why my passport shows
recent travel through Afghanistan, Iran, and North
Korea"

4. "No way you're going to take my picture and
fingerprints"

and the always favorite,

5.  "My landing fees pay your salary."

Cheers,
Rick


--- Mike Gigante <mg@sgi.com> wrote:
> 
> Dang! 
> 
> OK< I hope to be back but Rick may see me turned
> back at the I N S
> counter :-)
> 
> Mike






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:53:19 EST
Subject: Re: A Must Read Ebay Ad for LBC Part!
To: bushwacker4@zoomtown.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/07/2004 1:50:36 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
bushwacker4@zoomtown.com writes:
You have to read this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453024118&categ
ory=10076

NFI, etc.
Kent
1960 Bugeye


Not on the subject...but wouldn't folks get more for their stuff if they'd at 
least wipe it clean with a shop towel or something?

Robert Houston

We note that some East Coast English professor is promoting the notion that 
all hunting of any kind should be forbidden, not because it endangers wildlife, 
but because it is immoral. Naturally, we do not agree with his position on 
morality. He is entitled to his opinion on that, but we feel our morality is not 
his business, as long as the practice to which he objects does not injure 
him. (This matter is well covered in The Federalist Papers, as well as in de 
Tocqueville's Democracy in America.) But this, again, is a professor of English 
rather than of history or philosophy.
...Jeff Cooper






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: e-bay UK item
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:45:58 -0800

Here's a nice E-Bay UK item for you, I like the description, especially the
phrases like "naked baby oil twister" and "shagged" and "fat chick", all
worked into the description of a disc brake conversion set-up.
This guy has a way with words.

Glen






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From "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers at ec.rr.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Oil pressure hose
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:54:44 -0500

Hello, Spridgeteers!

I am about ready to install the rebuilt 1275 engine in my Midget, which has
been waiting patiently for this for the last two years, but before I do I want
to replace the oil pressure hose.

Does anyone know who has these available?  I can't find anything in the M*ss
or V-B catalogues, on-line or otherwise.  The hose is a thick-walled hose with
a small ID to fit on the small copper tube on the right side of the engine
block.

Thanks for any leads!

Steve Byers
Havelock, NC






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan  7 16:08:41 2004
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From "Vernon H. Brown" <vhbrown at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: A Must Read Ebay Ad for LBC Part!
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:08:27 -0500

Hey, for $.99 I wouldn't clean it either.

Sandy Brown

We note that some East Coast English professor is promoting the notion that
hunting blue eyed babies should be forbidden, not because it endangers blue
eyed babies, but because it is immoral. Naturally, we do not agree with his
position on morality. He is entitled to his opinion on that, but we feel our
morality is not his business, as long as the practice to which he objects
does not injure him. (This matter is well covered in The Federalist Papers,
as well as in de Tocqueville's Democracy in America.) But this, again, is a
professor of English rather than of history or philosophy.
...William Bennett


> bushwacker4@zoomtown.com writes:
> You have to read this one...
>
>
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453024118&ca
tegory=10076>
>
> NFI, etc.
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
>
>
> Not on the subject...but wouldn't folks get more for their stuff
> if they'd at least wipe it clean with a shop towel or something?
>
> Robert Houston
>
> We note that some East Coast English professor is promoting the
> notion that all hunting of any kind should be forbidden, not because it
> endangers wildlife, but because it is immoral. Naturally, we do not agree
> with his position on morality. He is entitled to his opinion on that,
> but we feel our morality is not his business, as long as the practice to
> which he objects does not injure him. (This matter is well covered in
> The Federalist Papers, as well as in de Tocqueville's Democracy in
America.)
> But this, again, is a professor of English rather than of history or
philosophy.
> ...Jeff Cooper






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To: "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure hose
Cc: Spridgets@autox.team.net

It's in Moss under gauges..... 361-795
         Peter C
===
At 04:54 PM 1/7/2004, you wrote:
>Hello, Spridgeteers!
>
>I am about ready to install the rebuilt 1275 engine in my Midget, which has
>been waiting patiently for this for the last two years, but before I do I want
>to replace the oil pressure hose.
>
>Does anyone know who has these available?  I can't find anything in the M*ss
>or V-B catalogues, on-line or otherwise.  The hose is a thick-walled hose with
>a small ID to fit on the small copper tube on the right side of the engine
>block.
>
>Thanks for any leads!
>
>Steve Byers
>Havelock, NC






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bugeye disk brake conversion
To: Chris T Weber <weberct@msn.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

Easiest way to go is to remove the front suspension
A-arms from the donor car with the king pins, hubs,
calipers, brake hoses, etc. still attached, removing
at the upper trunnion linkage and swap it into the
bugeye complete, if everything is in good condition.

Rick
-

-- Chris T Weber <weberct@msn.com> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what components are needed from a
> later Midget to convert 
> an early Bugeye to disk brakes.  I apologize for not
> researching this before 
> asking but I am at work and need to know quick.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Chris
> '60 Bugeye
> 
> ________________________________________________________

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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:30:36 EST
Subject: Re: A Must Read Ebay Ad for LBC Part!*
To: bushwacker4@zoomtown.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/7/04 1:05:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
bushwacker4@zoomtown.com writes:


> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453024118&
> category=10076
> 

Damn!  Now what am I gonna do with all these upset cows?

--DAvid C.






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Winter Project
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:46:00 -0500

Now I know why it is called a 'Winter Project'...

The figuring out what part(s) you actually have and what they are off of, so
you can order and wait for the new to arrive just to find out you need an
additional part(s) to install the part you just received.

Guess it is just the pleasure of having a 'Mutant Midget'


Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers at ec.rr.com>
To: "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>
Cc: <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20040107170351.021c9740@mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure hose
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 19:00:49 -0500

Thanks, Peter.  With your help, I found it under 361-765, but obviously the
last place I would look in the Moss on-line catalogue is under "Dashboard" for
a hose that is entirely in the engine bay.....

Cheers!
Steve Byers
Havelock, NC
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Peter C.
  To: BJ8Healeys
  Cc: Spridgets@autox.team.net
  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Oil pressure hose


  It's in Moss under gauges..... 361-795
           Peter C
  ===
  At 04:54 PM 1/7/2004, you wrote:
  >Hello, Spridgeteers!
  >
  >I am about ready to install the rebuilt 1275 engine in my Midget, which
has
  >been waiting patiently for this for the last two years, but before I do I
want
  >to replace the oil pressure hose.
  >
  >Does anyone know who has these available?  I can't find anything in the
M*ss
  >or V-B catalogues, on-line or otherwise.  The hose is a thick-walled hose
with
  >a small ID to fit on the small copper tube on the right side of the engine
  >block.
  >
  >Thanks for any leads!
  >
  >Steve Byers
  >Havelock, NC






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040107231624.62310.qmail@span.corp.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bugeye disk brake conversion
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:16:10 -0600

> Easiest way to go is to remove the front suspension
> A-arms from the donor car with the king pins, hubs,
> calipers, brake hoses, etc. still attached, removing
> at the upper trunnion linkage and swap it into the
> bugeye complete, if everything is in good condition.

And just what do you think the chances are of everything being in good
condition?
I thought mine were in decent shape. Now that I have ordered most of the
parts ...
David Lieb






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: technology test
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson@thicko.com>
wrote:
> http://www.thicko.com/thickovr.mov
> 
> some of the things we're working on for the new
> Thicko site.


Very nice!!! Care must taken not to pan real fast then
try to stand up. :o)

cheers, bill b.
69 Sprite


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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan  7 19:39:09 2004
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From "Gary Breeback" <vainent at nfdc.net>
To: <vintage-race@autox.team.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: cosworth pistons
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:37:08 -0500

hi all,   would anyone happen to have a broken set of Cosworth pistons for a
1098 Midget ;  part no. PA-0646 ?   I'm looking for one or more new,preferably
one that has not had machine work done to the dome . please contact me
directly if you can help.   thanks,    vainent@nfdc.net






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
To: slobberbone@yahoogroups.com, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Yahoo Spridget list <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Help Please
  FILETIME=[8D837410:01C3D59D]

It seems that my ISP (crap)
has been bouncing some
messages. Anyone that has had
a message to me bounced,
please send me an email and
estimated time and date of
bounce to my work email.
brad@brandom.com
Thanks,
Brad

I will forward it on to my ISP
from work, maybe they will be
able to fix their crappy
filters.......






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From Dean Hedin <dhedin at ieee.org>
To: "Chris T Weber" <weberct@msn.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Bugeye disk brake conversion
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:00:48 +0000
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On Wednesday 07 January 2004 08:58 pm, Chris T Weber wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what components are needed from a later Midget to
> convert an early Bugeye to disk brakes.  I apologize for not researching
> this before asking but I am at work and need to know quick.

As another poster stated, everthing hanging off the king pins...and the 
kingpins as well.  If you get the spindles matched to the kingpins you might 
not have to re-bush the spindles.  However, if you try to mate them with 
another set of kinpins, you will most definitely have to rebush the spindles 
(and have them reamed to fit)

Also advise you get the master cylinder as well, as I believe there was a bore 
change to match the calipers.

If you go through with this, it is a good time to rebuild your entire brake 
system and switch to sIlicone fluid.  






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040108011232.43588.qmail@web12106.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: technology test
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 06:06:07 -0600

Wm,
What technology was used to take the actual picture? We had similar shots on
our web page at work acouple of years ago and the photos were taken with a
strange setup that, in effect, took a picture of a reflection in a
hemi-sphere. The results were converted into a very strange gif file and
some proprietary code on the webpage made it work the way yours does. Of
course, ours aren't working any more ... too many server changes and not
enough interest.
David Lieb






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:10:25 -0500 (EST)
To: bushwacker4@zoomtown.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: A Must Read Ebay Ad for LBC Part!
  20:48:53 +0000

Well...

Though it will probably temporarily
impact this fellow's sex life
you can hardly blame the guy....
Mad Cow disease IS very scary stuff. 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "brian S" <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Bugeye disk brake conversion
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 07:13:57 -0500
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UH-OH!!!

Dean said the S word!!!

This ought to be fun, it hasn't been brought up in a while...

LMAO!!


Brian S.
Bugeye under resto


>From: Dean Hedin <dhedin@ieee.org>
>
>If you go through with this, it is a good time to rebuild your entire brake
>system and switch to sIlicone fluid.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:19:43 -0500 (EST)
To: dhedin@ieee.org (Dean Hedin)
Cc: weberct@msn.com (Chris T Weber), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Bugeye disk brake conversion
  00:00:48 +0000

Good point on the master cylinder, Dean.

Right you are! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:28:52 -0500 (EST)
To: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: Bugeye disk brake conversion
  7 Jan 2004 18:16:10 -0600

"And just what do you think the chances are of everything being in good
condition?"

Exactly!! Of course, if you "know" the donor car it's one thing, but if
you don't
you might be a lot better off in the long
run "renewing" the front end as part of
the "transition" from drum to disc, though
I personally would take a chance on the
appropriate "used" M/C! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "LBC" "Spridgets" <@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: FWD: Prothane rear spring seating pads

 Here is an email from a guy i have gotten a few NOS items from.
 Now he sends me this email out of the nowheres.
 Often he obtains Prothane bushings for Spridgets.
 Now if Ed, Peter PPP or anyone else wants to findout
 just what his deal is feel free.
 Ive already sent him a reply letting him know i only buy
 items for my own cars, projects.
 Have no wish to be a MOSS dealer, and would pass his offer on to
 the group.

 Larry Rex






From "John J Richard" <jrichard at webkorner.com>
Date:  Thu, 8 Jan 2004 06:34:53 -0500

Received another set Wednesday,on hold for you. 

 

Something to consider: I am an authorized distributor for Moss. If you
are interested,I could set you up as a Moss Dealer. Let me know,we can
then go into the details.

Note: No initial purchase required,no minimum required. 

 

Thanks,John


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From "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Engine-Trans Combos
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:54:11 -0500

Has anyone compiled a list of what A-series engines, with what
backplate, and what flywheel will bolt to what transmission without any
machining?
Dean
'62 A.H. Sprite mkII






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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:57:33 -0500 (EST)
To: bugeye15@hotmail.com (brian S)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Bugeye disk brake conversion
  2004 07:13:57 -0500

The "S" word!

Omigod! I am NOT going there, Brian. 
I can't....I WON'T...!! <VBG>




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:33:03 -0600
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From "Brashear, Jack, N" <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>
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HELP!!  I was too quick with the DELETE key.  Whomever posted these
wheels that would fit an MGA, please get back to me if they're still
available.  Mucho thanks,

Jack






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Subject: no lbc, suburban question
From Amy Soich <breiz at bellatlantic.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
  from [151.201.119.70] at Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:52:33 -0600

I know there are a lot of automotive gurus here, so even though this 
isn't LBC related, thought someone might know.

An old coworker of my husband's has a 1987 Chevy Suburban for sale. 
It's in great shape and is a fair price. We had previously decided we 
want an older suburban for a variety of reasons.

  Anyway, it doesn't have a third row seat. We really want the third 
row. So does anyone know if we could ad one to this year?

thanks!

Amy






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You sure can. The Clampets did it.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>

Amy Soich wrote:

>
>  Anyway, it doesn't have a third row seat. We really want the third 
> row. So does anyone know if we could ad one to this year?






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Subject: Very Interesting Crash Test

http://www.bridger.us/2002/12/16/CrashTestingMINICooperVsFordF150
-- 

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
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From Bmidget1 at aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:02:48 EST
Subject: Re: Shirts - Everybody read this
To: spritenut@exit109.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

Frank, I got the shirt today and it looks great! The fit is just right and I 
love the color. Nice work I'm sure I'll get requests from the spridget owners 
in my club at the general meeting this Friday. My first as chairman. It is 
about time midget owners get some respect. They will be disappointed that this is 
one of the last. they will have to settle for Triple C crap. I'll let you 
know how it went.

George
76 midget
76 mgb
80 mgb
Chrairman MG Car Club Long Island Centre






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Subject: Mini-Sprite

Thought I'd jump start the list; it's been rather quiet; certainly not 
like the Morgan list!
First a question about the new Mini (I'll get to content in a bit).  On 
the "S" version w/ the intercooler and the hood scoop.  What happens if 
snow packs in the scoop and it can't breathe?  Does the engine stop or 
will be warm enough to melt the snow?  Will all the salt on the roads 
corrode the intercooler??
Just some burning questions for you Thermal engineers (Grasshopper).

Now to content.  Anybody contemplate transplanting a new Mini S engine 
into a Spridget and making it front wheel drive??  Frank???  Peter??? 
could be another SOS meeting!

Let her rip!
Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
64 Morgan +4 (fixing for a friend)






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mini-Sprite
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

RE:Anybody contemplate transplanting a
> new Mini S engine 
> into a Spridget and making it front wheel drive?? 
> Frank???  Peter??? 
> could be another SOS meeting! 
> Let her rip!
> Dave


No, but today when I had my Truck in the shop, the
loaner was a '97 Geo Prism. Generally a piece of
organic waste, but seemed peppy and I did
think....."hmmmm....could the whole front end of this
thing (or other front wheel drive) be grafted to the
front end of the Sprite." 

A truely creative mind never rests. Neither does an
obsessive compulsive one. 

bill, ocd, b. :-)

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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: "David Woerpel" <dwoerpel@wi.net>,
   "Spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Mini-Sprite
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:42:49 -0600

Go for a V8, and keep it British while you're at it:
 
http://tinyurl.com/ypwtp

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of David Woerpel
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:21 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Mini-Sprite


Thought I'd jump start the list; it's been rather quiet; certainly not 
like the Morgan list!
First a question about the new Mini (I'll get to content in a bit).  On 
the "S" version w/ the intercooler and the hood scoop.  What happens if 
snow packs in the scoop and it can't breathe?  Does the engine stop or 
will be warm enough to melt the snow?  Will all the salt on the roads 
corrode the intercooler??
Just some burning questions for you Thermal engineers (Grasshopper).

Now to content.  Anybody contemplate transplanting a new Mini S engine 
into a Spridget and making it front wheel drive??  Frank???  Peter??? 
could be another SOS meeting!






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan  8 18:49:57 2004
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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'Dean Swanson'" <d.swanson@earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Engine-Trans Combos (early cars)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 17:47:56 -0800

In the first place there are no flywheels that will bolt to any
transmission without machining.  The flywheel bolts to the engine in all
cases.
	I can't speak on the later 1275 cars but do have personal
experience with the 948/1098's.  Any flywheel will bolt to any engine in
this class.  The problems come when you want to replace a smoothcase
tranny with a ribcase one.  The stamped thin backing plate on the 948
will need to have the lip on the top removed for an early ribcase and
replaced with the thicker 1098 backing plate for a later ribcase.  In
the old days I ran a 948 with the 1098 plate, flywheel, clutch, and
ribcase with no problems at all.  The advantage to this being, in the
larger arm type clutch, instead of the 6 or 9 spring finger type.
	I now run a stock 948 engine, backing plate, flywheel, clutch,
and smoothcase tranny in one bug-I and the other one has a popcorn 1098
with Datsun clutch and 5-speed tranny. My plans for an 80hp 948 and 12V
1275 hot dog engines are on hold for now.
	I see no difference between replacing a smoothcase with a
ribcase or 5-speed as far as originality goes.  They are both non-stock
and the 5-speed is a much better unit. I hope this helps.
		Crash


Has anyone compiled a list of what A-series engines, with what
backplate, and what flywheel will bolt to what transmission without any
machining?
Dean
'62 A.H. Sprite mkII






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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References: <000001c3d5f7$473a5730$fefc8818@S0029514436>

Dean Swanson wrote:

> Has anyone compiled a list of what A-series engines, with what
> backplate, and what flywheel will bolt to what transmission without any
> machining?

I am not 100% positive on this but if it has a rolled back plate,
Use a smoothcase. If it has the casr flat backplate, use a ribcase.

I just found out something else speaking of engines and trannys.
Tonight I dropped the engine into the yellow Sprite. I had stuck the 
trans in the other night. Tonight my son and some of his buddys came by 
to pick up that Subaru engine so I recruited them to hump the 948 into 
the car.
Some DPO has the bottom bellhousing bolts stuck thru from the engine 
side and they do not come out because they hit the oil pan.
Well this really messes up trying to align an engine/gearbox!
It's not yet fully in and I think I will cut off the bolts before I mess 
with it anymore.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: Mini-Sprite
References: <3FFDE5F3.7030702@wi.net>

David Woerpel wrote:

>   Anybody contemplate transplanting a new Mini S engine 
> into a Spridget and making it front wheel drive??  Frank???  Peter??? 
> could be another SOS meeting!


Don't look at me. I hate front wheel drive.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:21:12 EST
Subject: Re: Shirts - Everybody read this
To: Bmidget1@aol.com, spritenut@exit109.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/8/04 3:09:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, Bmidget1@aol.com 
writes:


> they will have to settle for Triple C crap

It really is crap.  I bought a Midget shirt from Triple-C for Christmas a 
year ago and haven't really worn it THAT much and it is faded badly.  

--David C.






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Subject: Re: Mini-Sprite
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:36:20 -0500

Many - many years ago Sports Car Graphics (I think) built a small all aluminum
monocoupe (spite size) and used a complete 1275 Mini front drive unit But
mounted it behind the seats making it a mid engine rear wheel drive.  Seems
there might be enough room behind a bugeyes seats to do this but why when you
can just put a 1275 up front.

Biff Jones
'59 Bugeye, 'Kermit'
'62 Sprite, 'Ole Gray'
'71 Midget, 'Freebie'
http://sprites2.homestead.com/






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Subject: Re: Shirts - Everybody read this
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  from [151.201.123.252] at Thu, 8 Jan 2004 22:13:28 -0600

Do you wash the shirt inside out? My wife gives me hell if I don't 
because almost any printed or heat transfer shirt will fade washing them 
right side out.

Just a thought,
Dave & Bobbie


>It really is crap.  I bought a Midget shirt from Triple-C for Christmas a 
>year ago and haven't really worn it THAT much and it is faded badly.  






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  from [141.153.237.72] at Fri, 9 Jan 2004 00:05:24 -0600

Subject says it all.  It has been in the 20's in NJ and I have been 
driving my Midget.  The result is a set of frozen nads!  Anyway my 
question is this, the engine barely gets off the cold mark on the temp. 
gauge and when I turn the heater on, it blows warm for about 1 minute.  
At that point I have sucked all the heat out of the heater core and it 
is blowing cool at best.  My guess is a higher temp thermostat?  Damn 
cold is all I have to say.  In the day it is fine, but at 1AM, "holy crap!"

Gilroy






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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: "Biff" <biffjones@erols.com>, "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Mini-Sprite
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 05:29:33 -0600

Sounds like a Unipower GT. There's one here in town. Interesting little
critter.

Phil Vanner
Minneapolis

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:36 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: Mini-Sprite


Many - many years ago Sports Car Graphics (I think) built a small all
aluminum
monocoupe (spite size) and used a complete 1275 Mini front drive unit But
mounted it behind the seats making it a mid engine rear wheel drive.  Seems
there might be enough room behind a bugeyes seats to do this but why when
you
can just put a 1275 up front.






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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 06:43:20 -0500 (EST)
To: w.lists@verizon.net (William M. Gilroy)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget list)
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
  09 Jan 2004 01:04:51 -0500

Bill...

Too many assumptions here but assuming
the gauge is accurate and you have a
a thermostat installed and a proper 
winter coolant antifreeze mix at the proper
level....something is certainly wrong. Even
with the cold 68c (170) stat you'll get at least warm air. With the 72c
you'll get hot
air...I did yesterday...I'm in CT., with a
1/2 blocked off alum rad and totally blocked off oil cooler!

(It was a real short drive..just to keep
the fluids circulating and the bat. charged!:)

When was the last time you renewed
the thermostat and had the system
flushed, coolant changed and system
checked over?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Mini-Sprite
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 07:22:33 -0500

Biff <biffjones@erols.com> wrote:
> Many - many years ago Sports Car Graphics (I think) 
> built a small all aluminum monocoupe (spite size) 

Wow, I haven't heard of them in ages.  It was one of
my favorite car magazines.  Paul Van Valkenburg
wrote some excellent tech articles for them.  And I
cried with the last issue, "Our Final Triumph" showing
a clapped-out TR3A.

Kent, who feels like his grandfather telling stories.






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From "Dan Walters" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
To: "'William M. Gilroy'" <w.lists@verizon.net>,
   "'spridget list'"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 07:45:52 -0500

Bill, put some cardboard ( or other weather resistant material) in front
of the radiatior to block some of theh airflow.  Just keep an eye on the
temp guage.  

Dan Walters
'63 Sprite
'74 Midget
Brick NJ


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:05 AM
To: spridget list
Subject: Frozen Nads


Subject says it all.  It has been in the 20's in NJ and I have been 
driving my Midget.  The result is a set of frozen nads!  Anyway my 
question is this, the engine barely gets off the cold mark on the temp. 
gauge and when I turn the heater on, it blows warm for about 1 minute.  
At that point I have sucked all the heat out of the heater core and it 
is blowing cool at best.  My guess is a higher temp thermostat?  Damn 
cold is all I have to say.  In the day it is fine, but at 1AM, "holy
crap!"

G

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From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
To: "Dan Walters" <spridget63@comcast.net>,
   "'William M. Gilroy'"
  <w.lists@verizon.net>,
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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 07:11:56 -0600

Certainly sounds like a thermostate issue to me as well.... If the engine
builds any heat at all then the thermostate should be capable of regulating
that heat to the radiator.... sounds to me like the actual functions of the
thermostate are to slow.... allowing more cool water then you need to take
away the marginal heat build up...

Keith ( try heating up an Aluminum block with 21 gallons of ice water
sometime.... trust me Thermostate control is a major issue )
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Dan Walters" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
To: "'William M. Gilroy'" <w.lists@verizon.net>; "'spridget list'"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:45 AM
Subject: RE: Frozen Nads


> Bill, put some cardboard ( or other weather resistant material) in front
> of the radiatior to block some of theh airflow.  Just keep an eye on the
> temp guage.
>
> Dan Walters
> '63 Sprite






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   "'William M. Gilroy'"
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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:29:08 -0000

Dan,
This may not apply to you but if the water level is low the temperature
guage can read low as well!
This is the opposite of what one might expect (low water = overheating)  but
I had personal experience of this when I had a 1500.  The temp sender unit
is near the top of the block and can be left "high and dry" if water level
is low.
 This could also cause an air lock in your heater core, preventing
circulation.

Have you tried bleeding the air out of the heater core?

Guy
I guess they used Lucas electrics in the Beagle!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-spridgets@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William M. Gilroy
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:05 AM
> To: spridget list
> Subject: Frozen Nads
>
>
> Subject says it all.  It has been in the 20's in NJ and I have been
> driving my Midget.  The result is a set of frozen nads!  Anyway my
> question is this, the engine barely gets off the cold mark on the temp.
> gauge and when I turn the heater on, it blows warm for about 1 minute.
> At that point I have sucked all the heat out of the heater core and it
> is blowing cool at best.  My guess is a higher temp thermostat?  Damn
> cold is all I have to say.  In the day it is fine, but at 1AM, "holy
> crap!"
>
> G






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:38:00 EST
Subject: Re: Shirts - Everybody read this
To: d.carpenter7@verizon.net
CC: Bmidget1@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/8/04 8:13:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
d.carpenter7@verizon.net writes:


> Do you wash the shirt inside out? My wife gives me hell if I don't 
> because almost any printed or heat transfer shirt will fade washing them 
> right side out.
> 

Sometimes, if it happens to turn inside out when I take it off.  BUT, I have 
a lot of other t-shirts that are washed the same way that show little or no 
fading, at least until they are very old and worn out.

--David 






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:15:59 -0500 (EST)
To: spridget63@comcast.net (Dan Walters)
Cc: w.lists@verizon.net ('William M. Gilroy'),
   spridgets@autox.team.net ('spridget 	list')
Subject: RE: Frozen Nads
  Jan 2004 07:45:52 -0500

Dan...

Cardboard in front of the radiator? In
a situation as described?

Daniel, do you really feel
an "aspirin for a headache" approach to be such a good idea in this
particular situation. 'Cause It doesn't cure
the problem, it simply addresses the
symptoms (sorta like Bush's "illegal
amnesty" plan! Oops..sorry..wrong list!:) 

Frozen nads are bad enough however,
NOT solving the problem at it's source
can result in expensive engine damage
and/or substantially reduced service life
over time through running too hot, OR
too cold.

So, I strongly suggest my fellow NJ lister
with the frozen ahhh...lower extremities..
SOLVE THE PROBLEM at it's source. 

For in accordance with my experience,
a cooling system properly winterized and
in satisfactory condition is more than
capable of putting out scads of heat at
temperatures well below 20F...at least
in all the LBC's and other types I've driven and owned for many moons!
:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   "Dan Walters"
  <spridget63@comcast.net>
Cc: "'William M. Gilroy'" <w.lists@verizon.net>,
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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:41:14 -0500

ummm since tonight's predicted lows will be in low single digit numbers
around here ...possibly a "nad" heater?     design engineers chime in here!
LOL!

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: Dan Walters <spridget63@comcast.net>
Cc: 'William M. Gilroy' <w.lists@verizon.net>; 'spridget list'
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: Frozen Nads


>Dan...
>
>Cardboard in front of the radiator? In
>a situation as described?
>
>Daniel, do you really feel
>an "aspirin for a headache" approach to be such a good idea in this
>particular situation. 'Cause It doesn't cure
>the problem, it simply addresses the
>symptoms (sorta like Bush's "illegal
>amnesty" plan! Oops..sorry..wrong list!:)
>
>Frozen nads are bad enough






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:57:54 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
Cc: spridget63@comcast.net (Dan Walters),
   w.lists@verizon.net ('William
  M. 	Gilroy'),
   spridgets@autox.team.net ('spridget list')
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
  9 Jan 2004 09:41:14 -0500

nad heater

a fur lined jock...yeah....that's the ticket! :)
We could turn it over to Tooltime Tim for wiring and plug it into the
cigtt. lighter.

Car's got an alternator, right? Should have plenty of power!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
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Subject: RE: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:40:00 -0600
  with any abuse report

umm errr  
paging DAVID LIEB!!!

go head, tell em about your lectric nad heater 

LMAO

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:58 AM
To: Charles Christ
Cc: Dan Walters; 'William M. Gilroy'; 'spridget list'
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads


nad heater

a fur lined jock...yeah....that's the ticket! :)
We could turn it over to Tooltime Tim for wiring and plug it into the
cigtt. lighter.

Car's got an alternator, right? Should have plenty of power!! :):)






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Mini-Sprite
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- Phil Vanner <phil@outtech.com> wrote:
> Go for a V8, and keep it British while you're at it:
>  
> http://tinyurl.com/ypwtp
> 
Very nice. I think shipping might be cost prohibitive,
and parts may be a bit pricey. But that would be a
startling combination.

cheers, bill b.

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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <DIECKGFCDFMIDPKNINMJGEOAFAAA.willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:23:22 -0600

> umm errr
> paging DAVID LIEB!!!
>
> go head, tell em about your lectric nad heater

Well, now that you mention it, I do seem to recollect having a small
electric blanket that plugs into the lighter on my Midget courtesy of
Harriet Carter. One of my friends in the Miata club used one to extend the
top-down season on her Miata, so I got one for my Midget. Works quite well.
Unfortunately, I just looked it up on the web and they say: "Sorry, this
item no longer available."
David Lieb






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From Jay Shaffer <shaf at zenten.com>
Subject: Ebay british car ad
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:36:52 -0700

ROTFLMAO

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItem&item=2451718436&category=6472


--
Jay Shaffer
  Was ITC #66 now Solo DP#66
'76 Midget
"This ain't no beauty contest"






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:58:52 EST
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
To: w.lists@verizon.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/08/2004 11:06:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
w.lists@verizon.net writes:
Anyway my 
question is this, the engine barely gets off the cold mark on the temp. 
gauge and when I turn the heater on, it blows warm for about 1 minute.  
At that point I have sucked all the heat out of the heater core and it 
is blowing cool at best.  My guess is a higher temp thermostat?  Damn 
cold is all I have to say.  In the day it is fine, but at 1AM, "holy crap!"

Gilroy


Or a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator?  Easier to do on a cold day.

Robert Houston

We note that some East Coast English professor is promoting the notion that 
all hunting of any kind should be forbidden, not because it endangers wildlife, 
but because it is immoral. Naturally, we do not agree with his position on 
morality. He is entitled to his opinion on that, but we feel our morality is not 
his business, as long as the practice to which he objects does not injure 
him. (This matter is well covered in The Federalist Papers, as well as in de 
Tocqueville's Democracy in America.) But this, again, is a professor of English 
rather than of history or philosophy.
...Jeff Cooper






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From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
References: <DIECKGFCDFMIDPKNINMJGEOAFAAA.willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>

"....her..."    ???
         nevermind.

At 10:23 AM 1/9/2004, David Lieb wrote:
>Well, now that you mention it, I do seem to recollect having a small
>electric blanket that plugs into the lighter on my Midget courtesy of
>Harriet Carter. One of my friends in the Miata club used one to extend the
>top-down season on her Miata, so I got one for my Midget. Works quite well.
>Unfortunately, I just looked it up on the web and they say: "Sorry, this
>item no longer available."
>David Lieb






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: disc brake,  must read
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:22:56 -0800

It sounds like the parts are crappy, but read the description!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453038326&category=2738
0

Glen






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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:32:53 -0600

Yes, Peter, "Her". Interestingly enough, girls actually buy AND drive
Miatas. This particular girl always turns in a better autocross time than I
do, drives down to NC to run the Tail of the Dragon every year, and is on
the Miata club autocross committee. She loves her Azenis, too ;-)
David Lieb






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From chuck <cciaffone at earthlink.net>
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To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: EBAY ... again

Thought I'd found a real buy on EBAY -- a copy of Horler's
book listed as hardcover with dustjacket. Well, it came today.
Can't complain about the service or the shipping. But after all,
it's just another softcover copy (no DJ, or course). Kinda a
downer. You really want to believe these people. Ah well.

chuck






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From "PAsgeirsson" <Pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net>
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   "spridget list"
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References: <3FFE4483.1090408@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:00:08 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

I'd look for a kinked heater hose and a non operating or missing t-stat.

Paul A




----- Original Message ----- 
From "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists at verizon.net>
To: "spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:04 PM
Subject: Frozen Nads


> Subject says it all.  It has been in the 20's in NJ and I have been
> driving my Midget.  The result is a set of frozen nads!  Anyway my
> question is this, the engine barely gets off the cold mark on the temp.
> gauge and when I turn the heater on, it blows warm for about 1 minute.
> At that point I have sucked all the heat out of the heater core and it
> is blowing cool at best.  My guess is a higher temp thermostat?  Damn
> cold is all I have to say.  In the day it is fine, but at 1AM, "holy
crap!"
>
> Gilroy






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
References: <21854-3FFEB79F-349@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>
  FILETIME=[AAE05190:01C3D6DD]

I TOTALLY AGREE!! I have wondered if fitting the heated Mercedes seats is
possible............
THAT is solving the freezing problem, AT THE SOURCE!!!

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

>  I strongly suggest my fellow NJ lister
> with the frozen ahhh...lower extremities..
> SOLVE THE PROBLEM at it's source.






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To: "Brad Fornal" <toyman@digitex.net>
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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:58:31 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

I have a customer who just completed a full restoration of his Morris
convertible.  He installed seat heaters in it.  He lives in San Diego!!!!

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Brad Fornal" <toyman at digitex.net>
Cc: "'spridget list'" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads


> I TOTALLY AGREE!! I have wondered if fitting the heated Mercedes seats is
> possible............
> THAT is solving the freezing problem, AT THE SOURCE!!!
>
> "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:
>
> >  I strongly suggest my fellow NJ lister
> > with the frozen ahhh...lower extremities..
> > SOLVE THE PROBLEM at it's source.






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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:00:26 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

I have a customer who just completed a full restoration on his Morris
convertable.  He installed seat heaters in his leather seats.  He lives in
San Diego!!!!

Later, Paul a

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Brad Fornal" <toyman at digitex.net>
Cc: "'spridget list'" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads


> I TOTALLY AGREE!! I have wondered if fitting the heated Mercedes seats is
> possible............
> THAT is solving the freezing problem, AT THE SOURCE!!!
>
> "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:
>
> >  I strongly suggest my fellow NJ lister
> > with the frozen ahhh...lower extremities..
> > SOLVE THE PROBLEM at it's source.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan  9 12:12:45 2004
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To: Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net>
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Cc: "'spridget list'" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <21854-3FFEB79F-349@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>

Got'em in our Jetta......
         ... great for bringing pizza home.
==
At 12:23 PM 1/9/2004, Brad Fornal wrote:
>I TOTALLY AGREE!! I have wondered if fitting the heated Mercedes seats is
>possible............
>THAT is solving the freezing problem, AT THE SOURCE!!!






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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:18:03 -0500 (EST)
To: Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net (PAsgeirsson)
Cc: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal),
   spridgets@autox.team.net ('spridget 	list')
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
  Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:58:31 -0800

seat heaters in San Diego

fried nads. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:24:24 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Well, he just moved to that cooler climate.  Lived in Brawley, CA.
before!!!!   LOL!

Later, Paul a

From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads


> seat heaters in San Diego
>
> fried nads. :)
>
>
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:29:28 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net ('spridget list')
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
  2004 12:23:29 -0600

Hi, Toy...

"Problem at the Source"....there you go!
True, true. Got the Disc. Will probably
go into roomates computer tonight.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:44:43 EST
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
To: nosimport@mailbag.com, toyman@digitex.net
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/09/2004 12:12:16 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
nosimport@mailbag.com writes:
Got'em in our Jetta......
         ... great for bringing pizza home.
==
At 12:23 PM 1/9/2004, Brad Fornal wrote:
>I TOTALLY AGREE!! I have wondered if fitting the heated Mercedes seats is
>possible............
>THAT is solving the freezing problem, AT THE SOURCE!!!

I'd much prefer the Lincoln optional air conditioned seats!

Robert Houston

We note that some East Coast English professor is promoting the notion that 
all hunting of any kind should be forbidden, not because it endangers wildlife, 
but because it is immoral. Naturally, we do not agree with his position on 
morality. He is entitled to his opinion on that, but we feel our morality is not 
his business, as long as the practice to which he objects does not injure 
him. (This matter is well covered in The Federalist Papers, as well as in de 
Tocqueville's Democracy in America.) But this, again, is a professor of English 
rather than of history or philosophy.
...Jeff Cooper






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To: grbyrns@ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: disc brake,  must read
  2004 09:22:56 -0800

Ozzie Osbourne by another name!

Fried brain but great sense of (sick)
humor, anyway!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
  9 Jan 2004 10:23:22 -0600

Harriet Carter Electric Blanket

Great idea! :)

I get this catalog, too. Bunch of off the
wall useful stuff, including the all important "cat tent" and other fine
feline
(and doggie) accoutrements.




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     '60 :{)






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Pressure bleeding brake system
To: midgetsprite group <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>,
   spridget list
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Having not had much luck with the vacuum type
bleeders, since the bleeder valves suck a lot of air,
I fashioned a pressure bleeding system. Small brass
valve stem in BMC cap. Hose to compressor.
Approximately 10 pounds of air pressure. Something
seems amiss. The pressure at the bleeders is way low. 
Read: Front, dribble, dribble, dribble. Rear, barely a
drop. At the risk of blowing all seals, etc., I am
tempted to increase pressure. Thought to ask the list
of BTDT folks to gain insight.


Whachathink?

cheers, bill b.
'69 Sprite

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Subject: Re: Pressure bleeding brake system
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:29:01 -0500

Have you depressed the pedal with the pressure on the reservoir?  I do the same
thing, and have had the same experience, only I use my Mighty Vac set on the
"blow cycle".  Works great, but only when I depress the pedal.

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
To: "midgetsprite group" <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>; "spridget list"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:52 PM
Subject: Pressure bleeding brake system


> Having not had much luck with the vacuum type
> bleeders, since the bleeder valves suck a lot of air,
> I fashioned a pressure bleeding system. Small brass
> valve stem in BMC cap. Hose to compressor.
> Approximately 10 pounds of air pressure. Something
> seems amiss. The pressure at the bleeders is way low.
> Read: Front, dribble, dribble, dribble. Rear, barely a
> drop. At the risk of blowing all seals, etc., I am
> tempted to increase pressure. Thought to ask the list
> of BTDT folks to gain insight.
>
>
> Whachathink?






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From "Dan Walters" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
To: "'Robert E. Shlafer'" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "'William M. Gilroy'" <w.lists@verizon.net>,
   "'spridget 	list'"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:41:37 -0500

Geeze, I'm just giving bill the answer he wants.  He knows that the
easiest thing he could do is replace the thermostat, but I got a feeling
he'd like to avoid working out in the driveway in the current weather.
Have you guys ever met Bill! ( just kidding gilroy). Boy you all can be
too serious sometimes.

Dan Walters
'63 Sprite
'74 Midget
Brick NJ


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From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:16 AM
To: Dan Walters
Cc: 'William M. Gilroy'; 'spridget list'
Subject: RE: Frozen Nads


Dan...

Cardboard in front of the radiator? In
a situation as described?

Daniel, do you really feel
an "aspirin for a headache" approach to be such a good idea in this
particular situation. 'Cause It doesn't cure the problem, it simply
addresses the symptoms (sorta like Bush's "illegal amnesty" plan!
Oops..sorry..wrong list!:) 

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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pressure bleeding brake system
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- Biff <biffjones@erols.com> wrote:
> Bill,
> 
> I made a 'pressure' bleeder and had no problem
> bleeding my system with it.  

Thanks, I think I will just slooooooowly increase
pressure a bit to see how that goes.

cheers, bill b.

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  from [141.153.237.72] at Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:54:46 -0600

William M. Gilroy wrote:

> My guess is a higher temp thermostat? 
>
What are the available temps. for thermostats for a 77 Midget?  I really 
can't count on the local parts store to know or get it correct.  
Blocking off 3/4 of the radiator did not make a bit of difference.

Bill Gilroy

PS.  I think the phrase "nads" just might generate more traffic then the 
phrase "cats".






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At 03:54 PM 1/9/2004, William M. Gilroy wrote:
>William M. Gilroy wrote:
>PS.  I think the phrase "nads" just might generate more traffic then the 
>phrase "cats".
===
I hope it does! I got sick of "cats"

Go "nads"!


anon






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From "Toby Atwater" <toyota_healey_bmw at cox.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: steering rack inner ball joint
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:02:31 -0800

Hello All,

I am putting together a correct steering rack by using the best parts off a
68 rack and a 69 rack (Both had the lil shim on the passenger side). I've
been through the archives and it seems unassembly of the inner ball joint is
quite an ordeal. I tried on one of the four ball joints I have and managed
to chew it up nicely but it still won't budge. Can I just soak them in
thinner for a bit, then in oil and see how they feel instead of inspecting
them visually?

What I am not looking for? slop? tight spots?

BTW I think I am going to try the oil route. Both racks had grease and are
in fairly good shape. Ill try oil and when it leaks I will go for the
grease.

Thanks!

Toby
69 Sprite
71 Toyota Land Cruiser
71 BMW R75/5






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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   Dan Walters
  <spridget63@comcast.net>,
   "'William M. Gilroy'" <w.lists@verizon.net>,
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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
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Charles Christ wrote:
>  ...possibly a "nad" heater?     

Well when Tiger Woods stop at the gas station and 2 tees fell out of his 
car, the attendant asked what they were. Tiger said they were "tees"
Attendant asked what they were used for, Tiger said "I set my balls on 
them when I am driving"
Attendant says Damn! those folks at Buick think of everything.

Maybe heated tees?

But back to the issue, I use a piece of cardboard in front of the A40 
rad to get the heat up in the winter. Brings it up to 190 for some nice 
heat. Besides, truckers have radiator covers on the big rigs so why not 
on our little rigs? Just don't block it all off. 3/4 at best and watch 
the temp gauge.

-- 
Frank Clarici
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From "Dan Walters" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
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Subject: RE: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:35:31 -0500

Careful Frank, don't offend anyone by offering such crude advice!

Dan Walters
'63 Sprite
'74 Midget
Brick NJ




But back to the issue, I use a piece of cardboard in front of the A40 
rad to get the heat up in the winter. Brings it up to 190 for some nice 
heat. Besides, truckers have radiator covers on the big rigs so why not 
on our little rigs? Just don't block it all off. 3/4 at best and watch 
the temp gauge.

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bill b. wrote:

>  At the risk of blowing all seals, etc., I am
> tempted to increase pressure. 

The Easibleed uses tire pressure which is around 30 psi.
I have pressure bled with a compressor at 25 psi max (so far)
I usually start out at 20 psi. I never blew a seal.

Oh no, That's gonna be as bad as the nads thread.
-- 
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Subject: Re: steering rack inner ball joint
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Toby

Where have you been hiding?

Those inner ball joints unscrew after you bend back the tabs.
Look close, there are 2 peened in areas at the ball/rod.
Pry them open and unscrew the rod.
I have done a few of these, I never found any wear at that end.


-- 
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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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I am afraid the tee's will harm the interior...............

Dan Walters wrote:

> Careful Frank, don't offend anyone by offering such crude advice!
>
> Dan Walters
> '63 Sprite
> '74 Midget
> Brick NJ
>
> But back to the issue, I use a piece of cardboard in front of the A40
> rad to get the heat up in the winter. Brings it up to 190 for some nice
> heat. Besides, truckers have radiator covers on the big rigs so why not
> on our little rigs? Just don't block it all off. 3/4 at best and watch
> the temp gauge.






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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:46:34 -0500 (EST)
To: spridget63@comcast.net (Dan Walters)
Cc: w.lists@verizon.net ('William M. Gilroy'),
   spridgets@autox.team.net ('spridget 	list')
Subject: RE: Frozen Nads
  Jan 2004 16:41:37 -0500

OH!!!

Sorry, Dan. I didn't reallize you were kidding a buddy. I just thought
you didn't
read the guy's post carefully (BTDT myself). Apologies for any
unintended
offense.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pressure bleeding brake system
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com> wrote:
> bill b. wrote:
> 
> >  At the risk of blowing all seals, etc., I am
> > tempted to increase pressure. 
> 
> The Easibleed uses tire pressure which is around 30
> psi.
> I have pressure bled with a compressor at 25 psi max
> (so far)
> I usually start out at 20 psi. I never blew a seal.

I am up to 20 psi and still just a small stream(about
the size of a broom straw) at the front and oozing at
the rear. Will try backflushing, probably should
disconnect pipes from BMC so as not to pump crude into
it. It maybe the only good part in the system.

Looks like my next purchase will be new brake stuff.
Hoses, pads, shoes. My concern is: If I replace that
stuff, having already replaced the Master Cyl, I'll
probably blow the seals at the wheels. Good thing that
 VB sale catalogue just arrived in the mail. 

cheers, bill b.

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  2004 16:05:58 -0600

^ .    . ^
   =0=  ......What? Me worry?




Cap'n. Bob 
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To: w.lists@verizon.net (William M. Gilroy)
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Subject: Re: NOW: Theromstat ranges, WAS: Re: Frozen Nads
  09 Jan 2004 16:54:10 -0500

I didn't think the cardboard would do much for you anyway, Bill, except
perhaps
exacerbate the situation.

You got a problem in there some where,
'cause initially (according to your post)
you get heat as the needle comes off
the peg, then things cool off when they
should be getting warmer, needle-wise
and heat-wise.

Air block, malfunctioning stat, whatever.
Something's not quite right in there.

I don't know the Spitfire engine, but most
emissions motors run warmer by a few
degrees than non-emissions types.

Non-emissions run 170F summer, 180F
winter, so I'm guessing at 190F, most
likely year 'round, but I don't "know".

There must
be a Spitfidget being somewhere out there
listening who must know.

Manual time, Bill! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: "'Robert E. Shlafer'" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:37:23 -0500

I don't offend that easily bob, I was serious about trying the cardboard
and have done so myself just to see if it made any difference.  We all
know the best thing to do is properly solve the problem, but there is
always more than one way to get by in the meantime.

Dan Walters
'63 Sprite
'74 Midget
Brick NJ


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:47 PM
To: Dan Walters
Cc: 'William M. Gilroy'; 'spridget list'
Subject: RE: Frozen Nads


OH!!!

Sorry, Dan. I didn't reallize you were kidding a buddy. I just thought
you didn't read the guy's post carefully (BTDT myself). Apologies for
any unintended offense.




Cap'n. Bob 
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:44:09 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Bill.  Are your bleeders new or totally free of garbage in the small
passages?

With no pressure on the system take them off and run a tiny drill through
each of the holes.  Also investigate the condition of the hoses.  New are
cheap.

Later, Paul A

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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
To: "spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Pressure bleeding brake system


> --- Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com> wrote:
> > bill b. wrote:
> >
> > >  At the risk of blowing all seals, etc., I am
> > > tempted to increase pressure.
> >
> > The Easibleed uses tire pressure which is around 30
> > psi.
> > I have pressure bled with a compressor at 25 psi max
> > (so far)
> > I usually start out at 20 psi. I never blew a seal.
>
> I am up to 20 psi and still just a small stream(about
> the size of a broom straw) at the front and oozing at
> the rear. Will try backflushing, probably should
> disconnect pipes from BMC so as not to pump crude into
> it. It maybe the only good part in the system.
>
> Looks like my next purchase will be new brake stuff.
> Hoses, pads, shoes. My concern is: If I replace that
> stuff, having already replaced the Master Cyl, I'll
> probably blow the seals at the wheels. Good thing that
>  VB sale catalogue just arrived in the mail.
>
> cheers, bill b.






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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>,
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Subject: RE: NOW: Theromstat ranges, WAS: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:51:47 -0600

Saw a guy running the 98 NYC Marathon with "NADS" written on his shirt.
Spectators were cheering on various runners by calling out thier names,
which many competitors write on themselves. Amid the cries of "Go Bob!" Keep
on Running... suddenly I hear.. "Go Nads!" The look on the guys face was
priceless.

Phil Vanner
This thread is complaining about 20 above, right? Mike G better bring a
third mitten to Minneapolis next week.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: NOW: Theromstat ranges, WAS: Re: Frozen Nads


Go "nads"!






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From robert sexson <buckrd67562003 at yahoo.com>
Subject: carburtor shafts
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

   Does than anyone know how mutch larger the oversized carburtor shafts are than the standard shafts?  TIA { SU carb}
 
R Sexson
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From Dave Yealy <lbc at littlebitcountry.com>
Subject: Re: Pressure bleeding brake system
References: <20040109205207.57776.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com>

Since the wife despises the job of helping bleed the brakes and clutch I 
use the pressure bleed system with what looks like a bug sprayer and an 
attachment that connects to the dual MC and I run the pressure up to 25 
lbs. Never blew a seal and always did a great job.

Dave
60-61-61 Bugeyes

At 03:52 PM 1/9/2004, you wrote:
>Having not had much luck with the vacuum type
>bleeders, since the bleeder valves suck a lot of air,
>I fashioned a pressure bleeding system. Small brass
>valve stem in BMC cap. Hose to compressor.
>Approximately 10 pounds of air pressure. Something
>seems amiss. The pressure at the bleeders is way low.
>Read: Front, dribble, dribble, dribble. Rear, barely a
>drop. At the risk of blowing all seals, etc., I am
>tempted to increase pressure. Thought to ask the list
>of BTDT folks to gain insight.
>
>
>Whachathink?
>
>cheers, bill b.
>'69 Sprite






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From "Richard Rivenbark" <rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com>
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Subject: RE: Pressure bleeding brake system
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:14:36 -0500

Frank said: "I never blew a seal."

Frank, is there something you're trying to tell us? :)

Tad R.
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From "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: NOW: Theromstat ranges, WAS: Re: Frozen Nads
References: <AKEMKGEDKDKHIKOPJBBLMEIAFGAA.phil@outtech.com>
  from [151.198.6.46] at Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:28:59 -0600

Phil Vanner wrote:

>Phil Vanner
>This thread is complaining about 20 above, right? Mike G better bring a
>third mitten to Minneapolis next week.
>
>  
>
Just got back from a run to Princeton.  10 degrees out and in an effort 
to get more heat I flipped the heater valve, just in case it was off and 
leaking.  I discovered that I had just turned it off and that car is 
really cold with no heat.  Stopped after about 10 miles to turn it back 
on.   As for complaining about 20 degrees, that is cold in NJ.

Bill Gilroy






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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
References: <000801c3d6f9$5bfe2950$6401a8c0@dan>
  from [151.198.6.46] at Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:30:50 -0600

Dan Walters wrote:

>Geeze, I'm just giving bill the answer he wants.  He knows that the
>easiest thing he could do is replace the thermostat, but I got a feeling
>he'd like to avoid working out in the driveway in the current weather.
>Have you guys ever met Bill! ( just kidding gilroy). 
>
You got that 100% correct.  Too damn cold.






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From "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: NOW: Theromstat ranges, WAS: Re: Frozen Nads
References: <21275-3FFF52DF-1668@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net>
  from [151.198.6.46] at Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:34:34 -0600

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

>I didn't think the cardboard would do much for you anyway, Bill, except
>perhaps
>exacerbate the situation.
>  
>
Did not do a thing.  Was worth a try to avoid the real problem.

>
>Air block, malfunctioning stat, whatever.
>
>  
>
Malfunctioning thermostat must be the problem.  I need to get one and 
change it.

>I don't know the Spitfire engine, but most
>emissions motors run warmer by a few
>degrees than non-emissions types.
>  
>

My engine only has a cat, everything else is gone.

>Manual time, Bill! :):)
>  
>
Should I use that to block the radiator instead of some cardboard?


Gilroy






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From Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: carburtor shafts
To: robert sexson <buckrd67562003@yahoo.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

--- robert sexson <buckrd67562003@yahoo.com> wrote:
>    Does than anyone know how mutch larger the
> oversized carburtor shafts are than the standard
> shafts?  TIA { SU carb}
>  
   Shafts are .010 oversized.......

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Subject: Re: NOW: Theromstat ranges, WAS: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 22:16:58 -0500

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists@verizon.net>
Cc: "spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: NOW: Theromstat ranges, WAS: Re: Frozen Nads


> 
> Non-emissions run 170F summer, 180F
> winter, so I'm guessing at 190F, most
> likely year 'round, but I don't "know".
> 
> There must
> be a Spitfidget being somewhere out there
> listening who must know.
> 
180 Standard, 190 Cold Climate

Brent






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From "Norm" <twobees at sprynet.com>
To: "spridgets-digest" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:00:49 -0500

"I TOTALLY AGREE!! I have wondered if fitting the heated Mercedes seats is
possible............
THAT is solving the freezing problem, AT THE SOURCE!!!"

As I was reading this Digest, I was considering removing the heated seats from
the Saab.  But, the MG was warm enough tonight coming home from work at an
outside temp of 5 degrees F.  So, what the heck - leave the heated seats to my
wife.  It was warm enough in the MG to unzip my jacket & drive without gloves.
And, that after only a couple of miles of driving a car that was parked
outside all day.

I have been using my MG's during Connecticut winters since 1993.  First couple
of years were cold.  Then I bought some of the heater upgrades from MGOC
catalog.  That helped.  I also: flush the heater core well every year; make
sure the thermostat works properly; installed a REAL heater valve from the
plumbing supply dept. at the hardware store (Only adjustable under the hood.
But, that's all I need.) & hogged out the water outlet in the head.  That last
operation doubled the size of the hole in the head (not the one on my
shoulders) and increased hot water flow substantially.

The above activities work well enough that I no longer need to plug all of the
openings like at the juncture of the door, top & the rear of side window.  The
heater blows enough hot air to more than compensate.

So, if you Spridget is too cold inside, check, flush, clear & warm up.  If all
else fails steal the wife's heated seat - if your alternator puts out enough
amps.  Sorry, Lucas generators don't.

Oh, how nice it is in Florida!

Norm Sippel
'66 MGB
'59 Turner






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  from [151.201.123.252] at Fri, 9 Jan 2004 22:11:26 -0600

Here's the cure:

http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/seatheatac.html

not in the we tight range, but worth a consideration in the frozen north.

Dave






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Ed- Shirt
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:52:29 -0500

Ed,

Received the shirt this evening,,, Thanx..... not sure how the pink will go
with the Inca Yellow Mutant... but will be an eye stopper for sure.....


Just kidding

Thanks
Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'chuck'" <cciaffone@earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: EBAY ... again
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:37:25 -0800

Chuck, be sure to leave the proper feedback, although I bet they are
long gone.
		Crash


Thought I'd found a real buy on EBAY -- a copy of Horler's
book listed as hardcover with dustjacket. Well, it came today.
Can't complain about the service or the shipping. But after all,
it's just another softcover copy (no DJ, or course). Kinda a
downer. You really want to believe these people. Ah well.

chuck






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[2]: Frozen Nads
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  <000001c3d709$45c742b0$6401a8c0@dan>

Hello ,

      ok... here's the joke......

      guy in alaska drives his snowmobile into town and is having some
      problems with it. he goes to the repair shop and the repairman
      says.. "ok. it'll be a little while before i can have a look at
      it. why don't you walk on down to the that cafe and get yourself
      something to eat, and i'll find ya after i look?"... so the guy
      goes down to the cafe and and orders a sandwich..... he's eating
      it when the repairman comes in, looks around, sees him, walks
      over and says... "looks like ya blew a seal".. the guy wipes his
      mouth with a napkin and says.. "nope, just mayonaise".




-- 
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 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
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To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 02:05:35 -0700
  FILETIME=[E8C7D4D0:01C3D758]

Hmm, maybe now might not be the best time to bring up possible hot running 
in my B in the 70 F temps, sunny weather here in Phoenix.  I might get to 
drive my car all winter, but try the vinyl from 79 in 120 F heat 
sometime....especially with the heater valve stuck "on" (although it needs 
to act as second radiator when climbing hills)
Clean up and decking out the new garage for the 66 sprite continues, though 
I did manage to get the wheels off, black widow webs everywhere!
Luck to me please.
Mike Jose
79 B driver (wife)
66 Sprite on blocks (mistress)

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To: "Bill L" <pythias@pacifier.com>
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Subject: RE: Re[2]: Frozen Nads
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:26:43 -0600
  with any abuse report

Now, for one better on that joke.. I told that joke to my best buddy on the
way to A Canada fishing trip, he thought it was the funniest thing he ever
heard, and HAD to tell it to everyone he met. Which included at one stop a
crowded truck stop bathroom. Look on those boys faces in the can, as Harry
is talking about blowing a seal.............
Priceless

-----Original Message-----
From Bill L [mailto:pythias at pacifier.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:01 AM
To: spridgets
Subject: Re[2]: Frozen Nads


Hello ,

      ok... here's the joke......

      guy in alaska drives his snowmobile into town and is having some
      problems with it. he goes to the repair shop and the repairman
      says.. "ok. it'll be a little while before i can have a look at
      it. why don't you walk on down to the that cafe and get yourself
      something to eat, and i'll find ya after i look?"... so the guy
      goes down to the cafe and and orders a sandwich..... he's eating
      it when the repairman comes in, looks around, sees him, walks
      over and says... "looks like ya blew a seal".. the guy wipes his
      mouth with a napkin and says.. "nope, just mayonaise".




--






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:23:03 -0500 (EST)
To: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Frozen Nads
  23:01:27 -0800

Bill...

Last time I heard this one it used whipped
cream off an ice cream Sundae!!

In any event, this one never fails to get
me LMAO!:)

How do we KNOW Frank never blew a
seal?? We don't, do we?!  {80-<




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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It does get awful cold up there, certainly there are some in a harbor
nearby...................<BF'nG>

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

>
> How do we KNOW Frank never blew a
> seal?? We don't, do we?!  {80-<






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Spidgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: car stereo for Mini
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:06:28 -0500

I call upon the knowledge of the Spridget list, for the Mini list
is....well....not like Spridget list!!

I want to install a stereo in my '72 Mini.  There is no dash hole for a radio,
and the dash doesn't lend itself to modification, so I'm thinking of putting
it under the back seat.  The problem then is control.

I'm thinking that a wireless remote won't work because it's line of site.  Is
this correct?

Anyone know of any WIRED remote stereos?  I have been looking on line, and
most of the WIRED remotes are for CD changers with FM modulators.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!!

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini






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To: Geoff Branch <gjbranch@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: car stereo for Mini
References: <003801c3d78b$5356a880$0300a8c0@upstairs>
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Geoff Branch wrote:

>I want to install a stereo in my '72 Mini.  There is no dash hole for a radio,
>and the dash doesn't lend itself to modification, so I'm thinking of putting
>it under the back seat.  The problem then is control.
>
>I'm thinking that a wireless remote won't work because it's line of site.  Is
>this correct?
>
>Anyone know of any WIRED remote stereos?  I have been looking on line, and
>most of the WIRED remotes are for CD changers with FM modulators.
>  
>
Lots of stereos now days have a removable faceplate.  I think that some 
of the riceboys build/have built connectors between the stereo and the 
faceplate.  You might want to check with the local riceboys or your 
favorite whump, whump muffler/audio shop.  Worth a try and long live the 
rice boys.  Let us know what you find out.

Bill Gilroy
77 Nad freezing Midget






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From "Larry B. Macy, Ph.D." <macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu>
Subject: Re: Wee tight piano hinge, seat belt webbing& seat covers
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:37:48 -0500
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>

I had the same guy Frank uses do my seats. He charged me $200 per seat. 
Maybe because I told him Frank sent me his way ;-) (more likely because 
he had to buy an entire roll of the material I wanted them done in)

I love the way they came out. I am going to have the door panels 
covered in the same material, just got to get the time and $$ together 
at the same time.

Now as for those SlepBoys Sheepskins. They actually do like nice when 
you put them on. Just never sit on them!!

Larry



On Jan 4, 2004, at 6:50 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> SDOliner@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Need an accelerator pedal for the 69 Midget. Or is there a wee tight 
>> way to do this?
>
> Small hinge from the hardware store. You can redrill the one side to 
> fit the floor holes and use 2 small screws with nuts at the pedal.
>
>> Has any just replaced the seat belt webbing in their interia reel 
>> belts?
>
> VW back seat belts. late 80s/early 90s GTI, GOLF, and Jetta.
> You have to remove the tilt ball NOT the inertia ball.
> Now they will mount horizonally and they work real nice.
>
>> Is there a wee tight way to get seats covered?
>
> Upholstry shops charge less than you can buy the pre made covers.
> My guy was getting $100 a seat last time I had a set done. He supplied 
> everything and all I did was tell him how I wanted them to look.
> Color, piping, style. He even painted the frames.
>
> And for the really tight group, Pepboys sells genuine sheepskin seat 
> covers for a few bucks. These thing really look like sh*!
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/
>
>
-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
macy@bbl.med.upenn.edu
System Manager/Administrator
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

  Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a 
question
and you're a fool for the rest of your life.






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[2]: car stereo for Mini
References: <003801c3d78b$5356a880$0300a8c0@upstairs>
  <40002153.2070403@verizon.net>

Hello,

      i keep thinking i might someday put a stereo in "the red thing".
      its still positive ground, (despite Paul A.'s admonitions to
      change) but i keep thinking about going to one of those WE
      INSTALL FOR FREE places and watch 'em blow out a BUNCH of their
      equipment before they figure it out... .. i guess i'm not THAT
      cruel. (or is it protecting my karma?) Also like the "song of
      the engine" too much to cover it up with tunes. besides that,
      there's not much worth listening to out here in the stix.

       




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:46:42 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
  2004 08:55:56 -0600

Exactly, Toyperson.

I live right next to Stamford Harbor and
Frank along the South Jersey coast....
Plenty of opportunity and thus, more
than enough reason to believe beyond
a reasonable doubt.

This bears further investigation. Methinks
the Coast Guard would probably have
authority in matters involving blown
seals and the like.

I shall check. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Finally, an Honest EBayer
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

This one's from the Healey list.  Good for a laugh.

Rick

--- dicksonr@uwm.edu wrote:
> Date: Fri,  9 Jan 2004 11:36:08 -0600
> From: dicksonr@uwm.edu
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> CC: b1law@aol.com, lethal4@tds.net
> Subject: Fwd: Truth on EBay, not Healey but Jensen
> 
> This ad on ebay is hilarious!
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2451718436
>   
> 

__________________________________
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From "Michael W. Jose" <michaelwjose at hotmail.com>
To: ed@justbrits.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Decking out
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:38:59 -0700
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Ed,
If you say it's huge that's kinda depressing.  I live in an apartment, but 
lucky enough to be able to rent the mini garages.  My roommate has one, and 
he can barely squeeze in his GMC 1500 short box, but for a Spridget, it's A 
okay.  Luckily it comes with an outlet and a big low shelf (read: 
workbench), so I'm making the most.  Someday I might get to move into a 
house and really get something going, but until then.....
Mike Jose
79 B (wife)
66 Sprite (mistress)
suffering from garage envy

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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 10 12:31:37 2004
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From "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: Decking out
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  from [151.198.6.46] at Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:31:44 -0600

Michael W. Jose wrote:

> Ed,
> If you say it's huge that's kinda depressing.  I live in an apartment, 
> but lucky enough to be able to rent the mini garages.  My roommate has 
> one, and he can barely squeeze in his GMC 1500 short box, but for a 
> Spridget, it's A okay.  Luckily it comes with an outlet and a big low 
> shelf (read: workbench), so I'm making the most.  Someday I might get 
> to move into a house and really get something going, but until then.....

Your are thinking all wrong, as long as you don't have a wife, or you 
have an insane wife, you don't want a house.  You want a big garage with 
a little apartment on top!  Should be cheaper, but the neighborhood will 
be worst.  Good for parties ....

Gilroy






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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:23:01 -0500 (EST)
To: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: car stereo for Mini
  08:45:53 -0800

"not much to listen to out here in the
stix"

True, true...

which is why we have tape/disc set-ups..
...so you can "name that tune" yourself
at your discretion. Ah....America! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Gary  & Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   "Bill L"
  <pythias@pacifier.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <10570-40005F25-1445@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: car stereo for Mini
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:22:05 -0800

> "not much to listen to out here in the
> stix"

Not true! Our local radio station plays 2 - 3 country, 2 - 3 rock, 2 - 3
easy listening, and so on throughout the day. Since it's the ONLY station,
they try to please everyone, and don't do a bad job for a small town.
Kate






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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:04:51 -0500 (EST)
To: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales)
Cc: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: car stereo for Mini
  Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:22:05 -0800

But Kate....

Bill says differently in HIS part of
utopialand....so who are we to argue
his personal tastes, as weird as they
may be! <VBG> 

THUS, as a helpful lister, we can only
offer a suitable alternative! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> How do we KNOW Frank never blew a
> seal?? We don't, do we?! 

And you will never know!
Now about blowing that hose eh?
(Don't even say that 3 times fast ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:21:11 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
  Jan 2004 18:10:20 -0500

Omigosh!!

He's alive...(run Cap'n Bob, run!!) 

I couldn't say that three times fast if
I tried....'cause I did...and I couldn't.

Cold enough for 'ya, or what? :(

I'm hibernatin', man. No drinks
or band for me tonight. 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'Gary  & Kathryn Bales'" <kgb@frontiernet.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Nevada
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:15:52 -0800

Your in NE_VAH_DA now girl.  How dare you call our third largest City a
small town.  It's a good thing I like you or I could get you kicked out
for such talk.
		Crash


> "not much to listen to out here in the
> stix"

Not true! Our local radio station plays 2 - 3 country, 2 - 3 rock, 2 - 3
easy listening, and so on throughout the day. Since it's the ONLY
station,
they try to please everyone, and don't do a bad job for a small town.
Kate






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401110216.i0B2GUdE017270@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: car stereo for Mini
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:15:30 -0500

Geoff Branch wrote:
>I want to install a stereo in my '72 Mini.  
> There is no dash hole for a radio, ...

Just thinking out loud here, but could you use an
iPod (20GB worth of MP3 music) to drive an
amplifier which drives the speakers?  

Kent






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From "Billy and Ann Green" <bgreen99 at frontiernet.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Paint colors
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:42:30 -0500

I have a 1959 Bugeye in excellent almost original condition.  I say almost
because at some point it was painted white.  I plan to go back to the original
cherry red, or at least an original A/H colour.  I have Donald Pikovnik's A-H
Guide to Historic Colors, so paint matching should not be difficult.  My
problem is this:  Some idiot blacked out under the hood - Where, originally,
would the original paint colors be used?  On the inside of the hood, on the
fenders, firewall, inside of doors, and inside the "turtle" shell of the boot?
Or were other colors used?  Please reply directly

Thanks

bgreen99@frontiernet.net

Billy






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:55:40 EST
Subject: Re: car stereo for Mini
To: kentmclean@mindspring.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/10/2004 8:16:15 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
kentmclean@mindspring.com writes:
Just thinking out loud here, but could you use an
iPod (20GB worth of MP3 music) to drive an
amplifier which drives the speakers?  

Kent
Fantastic Idea!...what's an iPod?

RH






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:02:40 EST
Subject: NO LBC
To: spridgets@autox.team.net, midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com

Ok, I bought the wife a new PC for Christmas, so I'm having to set up the 
mail and stuff and thought I'd test fly the new sig line.  I didn't raise much 
dust with Jeff Cooper on my office mail, so I'll try dubya.

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: House Size
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:36:37 -0500

I have to agree that it would be better to have a hugh garage and little
apartment..than a large decked out house and little garage.  A place to keep
all our toys, work on them without the complaining about the noise and with
out making excuses why the wife's vehicle is still parked out in the cold and
snow.

Slamed
79 Mutant Midget






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From "Biff" <biffjones at erols.com>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: NO LBC: Left brain,right brain
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:37:33 -0500

      Subject: Fw: Left Brain, Right Brain


      This is soooo stupid but true... and it's going to drive you crazy!

      While sitting at your desk, lift your right foot off the floor and make
clockwise circles.

      Now, while doing this, draw the number "6" in the air with your right
hand.

      Your right foot will change direction and there's nothing you can do
about it.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan 11 04:56:26 2004
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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 06:56:18 EST
Subject: Re: NO LBC*
To: RBHouston@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net, midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com

In a message dated 1/10/04 8:04:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
RBHouston@aol.com writes:


> You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
> second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 
> 2002
> 

Hee hee!  Of Course!  With this loonie in office second-guessing will always 
be in vogue.

--David C.  "Beat the Bushes for a Better America"  






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 06:58:06 EST
Subject: Re: NO LBC: Left brain,right brain*
To: biffjones@erols.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/10/04 8:39:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
biffjones@erols.com writes:


> Subject: Fw: Left Brain, Right Brain
> 
> 
>       This is soooo stupid but true... and it's going to drive you crazy!
> 
>       While sitting at your desk, lift your right foot off the floor and make
> clockwise circles.
> 
>       Now, while doing this, draw the number "6" in the air with your right
> hand.
> 
>       Your right foot will change direction and there's nothing you can do
> about it.
> 

I'M BEGNNING TO WORRY ABOUT YOU, BIFF!  lol (But he's right!)

--David C.






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: <RBHouston@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <1cb.179c8c89.2d32233c@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [healey] Re: car stereo for Mini
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:05:14 -0500

RH wrote:
> Fantastic Idea!...what's an iPod?

Don't you know how to Google? Point your brower to
www.google.com, search on "ipod", and you will get 
a link to:

http://www.apple.com/ipod/

HTH,
Kent






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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: "Biff" <biffjones@erols.com>, "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: NO LBC: Left brain,right brain
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 08:20:23 -0600

> Your right foot will change direction and there's nothing you can do
about it.

Sure there is - write the 6 with a clockwise motion

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Biff
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:38 PM
To: spridgets
S
ubject: NO LBC: Left brain,right brain


      Subject: Fw: Left Brain, Right Brain


      This is soooo stupid but true... and it's going to drive you crazy!

      While sitting at your desk, lift your right foot off the floor and
make
clockwise circles.

      Now, while doing this, draw the number "6" in the air with your right
hand.






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:23:41 -0500 (EST)
To: DLancer7676@cs.com
Cc: RBHouston@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net, midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: NO LBC*
  EST

David!!

How dare you attack the latest figure
head for our great corporately (and whoever the hell else is "behind")
run
government!! <VBG>:):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:30:05 -0500 (EST)
To: DLancer7676@cs.com
Cc: biffjones@erols.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NO LBC: Left brain,right brain*
  EST

Sure...

The number six is drawn in the opposite
direction and your eyes are focused on
your finger as you try to "draw" the number.

When you try to avoid a bump, pothole
or uneverness in the road, look to the 
"side" to which you will attempt to circumvent same, not AT it.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 09:43:00 -0500 (EST)
To: bgreen99@frontiernet.net (Billy and Ann Green)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Paint colors
  of Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:42:30 -0500

Single color throughout as far as I
know, Billy.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:03:44 -0500 (EST)
To: w.lists@verizon.net (William M. Gilroy)
Cc: spridget63@comcast.net (Dan Walters),
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Subject: Re: Frozen Nads
  09 Jan 2004 21:30:13 -0500

So, Bill....:):)

You still think 20F is cold after today's
and yesterday's early AM temperatures?

Geeze!! I cannot recall the last
time it got down to 0 F and below in these
parts. Unreal!!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:09:32 -0500 (EST)
To: phil@outtech.com (Phil Vanner)
Cc: biffjones@erols.com (Biff), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: RE: NO LBC: Left brain,right brain
  2004 08:20:23 -0600

"Write the '6' with a clockwise motion"

Did you try it? :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:40:36 -0500 (EST)
To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: LBC Gen'l Interest

A buddy of mine, living in Germany during
March of 1963, got the following quote
from the Austin Motor Car Co., Ltd., 
Motor Export Corporation, Ltd. of
Piccadilly, London on a new AH3000...

A-H 3000 Sports Conv.    L865.00.00
(Mono or DuoTone) 

Prod. Line fitted extras:

Heater                                  15.10.00
Overdrive                              50.00.00
Wire Wheels                          25.00.00
Adj. Steering Col.                     2.00.00
Tonneau                                 10.00.00
Knockoffs (ea. wheel)                1.06.00
Servo Ass't. Brakes                  10.00.00
*Steering Lock                           4.10.00
*Wing Mirror                              1.11.04

* = Compulsory in Germany

A hardtop is not currently available thru
the Personal Exports Divison

Anyone care to do the exchange rate math
at "yesterday's" prices, just for the hell of
it? Nigel or Guy Weller, fr'instance? :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "James Kleemeyer" <jkk at adams.net>
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Subject: Re: NO LBC*
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:09:46 -0600

www.seeyageorge.com 

Jim K.   "Show Bush The Door In 2004"






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
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Subject: : Re: defroster question

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From "Larry Rex" <larryrex at medinaec.com>
Date:  Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:11:58 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

 

 

-------Original Message-------

 

From John Seaborn

Date: Friday, January 09, 2004 07:19:57 AM

To: Larry Rex

Subject: Re: defroster question

 

Thank you for your defroster question, you have come to the right place.

 

We purchased the defroster product line from Interdynamics and are in the

process of developing the kits for re-introduction. Frost Fighter Clear View

Defroster Kits are complete electric rear window defrosters that reliably

melt snow and ice. These easy to install kits provide full rear window

coverage with an attractive factory look and performance.

 

The kits are not yet available but will be very soon. The price will be

between $45 and $50 depending on the size of the kit. I will keep your

e-mail and let you know when the Clear View kits are available.

 

Regards,

 

John

Frost Fighter Customer Care

 

www.frostfighter.com

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From Larry Rex

To: drdefroster@frostfighter.com

Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:45 PM

Subject: defroster question

 

 

 

  Sir where can i buy the entire rear window defroster

        wring grid etc? Not looking for a repair kit but

       the entire installation package.

 

      regards

      Larry Rex

 

 

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Subject: No more Nadsicles
  from [141.150.139.72] at Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:35:24 -0600

No more nadsicles.  I replaced my thermostat with a new one.  The old 
one was 167F and the new one is 195F.  What a difference.  I then 
blocked off about 1/3 of the radiator and the car is warm.  Car is now 
warm, temp guage almost gets to 'N' and when I turn the heater on it 
blows hot air and does not cool off.  The local auto parts store had the 
correct stat but no gasket.  I happened to have 3 in the garage so I was 
set.  That is one of the best bits of advice I had gotten with these 
cars, "Always keep a couple of spare gaskets in the garage".   A bit 
cold to be working in the driveway but now the car is much more drivable.

Bill Gilroy






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Subject: Re: Ed- Shirt
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:46:22 -0600

This just in from Ed to Marco/List:

"<<Thanx.....>>

You are welcome, Marco.

<< not sure how the pink will go
with the Inca Yellow Mutant... but will be an eye stopper for sure.....>>

Well, about those PINK racing stripes with Lime Green accent
edges.............................

HeeHee<smirk>

Ed"

I kind of like the mental image also!!!! -:)

j.






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Subject: Re: NO LBC*
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:53:39 -0600

Jim why would you put that here?   

Keith ( lets do LBC's and Nad warmers... those topic's have real value )






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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:06:44 -0600

> Jim why would you put that here?   
> Keith ( lets do LBC's and Nad warmers... those topic's have real value )

Thanks, Keith. Much better than the response I was avoiding sending ;-)
David Lieb






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This is what I come up with converting the Pounds to Dollars then 
calculating the inflation rate from 1963 to 2003. I'm sure there is a more 
precise method of going about this but since we won't be buying one for 
this price it should be close enough.
Hope the mail server doesn't screw up the columns

Dave
60-61-61 Bugeyes


                                 1963 (L)        1963 ($)        2003 ($)
>A-H 3000 Sports Conv.    L865.00.00             1597.82         9660.02
>(Mono or DuoTone)
>
>Prod. Line fitted extras:
>
>Heater                                  15.10.00        28.00           169.28
>Overdrive                              50.00.00         93.00           562.25
>Wire Wheels                        25.00.00             46.18           279.19
>Adj. Steering Col.                   2.00.00            3.70             22.37
>Tonneau                               10.00.00  18.50           111.85
>Knockoffs (ea. wheel)              1.06.00      1.96             11.85
>Servo Ass't. 
>Brakes                10.00.00     18.50           111.85
>*Steering 
>Lock                       4.10.00            7.57             45.77
>*Wing Mirror                          1.11.04           2.05             12.39

Totals                                       983.37           1817.28 
    10986.82 






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Subject: Clutch bearing removal
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:01:41 -0600

I am trying to get the throughout bearing off of the slide on my 78 1500.
Are there any tricks to get it off?  And how do you get the new one on, it
looks lie a tight fit.






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From "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
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>$11 Grand for a new AH3000!
>
>I'll take one!!


Timothy H Collins, Dean - Professor and Dean Emeritus
School of Technology
Michigan Technological University






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Subject: Re: LBC Gen'l Interest

 I will second that, i will take one, one of every color at that
 price.



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Date:  Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:05:58 -0500

>$11 Grand for a new AH3000!
>
>I'll take one!!


Timothy H Collins, Dean - Professor and Dean Emeritus
School of Technology
Michigan Technological University




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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:16:52 -0500 (EST)
To: lbc@littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
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Subject: Re: LBC Gen'l Interest
  Jan 2004 12:49:19 -0500

Hmmm, Dave...

Something not right here but I've no idea
what the hell I'm really talking about 
except "over here", as I recall (and bear in
mind it's been a loooong time:), A-H's
went for somewhere between US $3-3500
back in the early 60's. Of course, we had
customs/import duties to be added on
I suppose. Interesting nontheless! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: No more Nadsicles
  11 Jan 2004 11:34:39 -0500

Ah....

Thank God 'cause it's cold out there, eh?

167F "Summer" stat was never recommended anyway, probably for
emissions considerations.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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I give up!!!!
I tried sending what I think may be the correct amount twice and both times 
the message comes out blank.
Someone else figure it out and post it.

Dave
60-61-61 Bugeyes






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...what's an iPod?
> 
> 
> Don't you know how to Google? 


Oh that's easy, it's one of those aliens from one of those planets where 
they grow in pods.
Didn't anybody see that movie?

What I really want to know is what happebed to real knobs on car radios?
My fat fingers can't push those tiny buttons,






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Subject: Re: car stereo for Mini
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:48:45 -0500

Frank Clarici wrote:
> What I really want to know is what happebed to real 
> knobs on car radios?

They went out with AM-only radios, circa 1969.

HTH :-),
Kent
'56 100 BN2






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Kent McLean wrote:
> Frank Clarici wrote:
> 
>>What I really want to know is what happebed to real 
>>knobs on car radios?
> 
> 
> They went out with AM-only radios, circa 1969.

No they didn't, my 8 track tape player had knobs and I bought that new 
in 72. Matter of fact, I have a couple cassette players with knobs.
Now this modern crap with no knobs and a remote!
I go past the radio into the glove box on the A40 and search for the 
remote so I can change a station. Go figure!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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Subject: RESOLVED: No spark at points????
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Thank you to all that replied. Even though the Bentley said the condenser
should be good (via the test where I checked for voltage across the
points), it wasn't, and now the car runs well. BUT, after the 20 minutes at
2,000 rpm to break the cam bearings in, I lost the tach and fuel gauge. I
found a burnt fuse, I replaced it, and it went up again. Anyone have an
idea where a common occurrence might cause the fuse to go? I have used my
multimeter to find that the problem is in the white wire coming out of the
fuse block. But past that, I am at a loss. Oh, yeah, this is a 68 Sprite.
TIA,
Brad

Frank Clarici wrote:

> Brad
>
> Sounds like a loose connection.
> Check the insulator around the post on the points where the wires go.
> Check that little black wire in the dizzy.
> Check for a loose rivet on the coil where the low tension wires go.
> You may have a bum condenser.
> Hot wire it direct incase you have a bad ignition switch or ign wire to
> the coil. hot side of battery to hot side of coil.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan 11 17:56:19 2004
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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: RESOLVED: No spark at points????
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:55:39 -0500

there is a remote chance the fuse failed all by itself at that given moment.
usually the smoke comes out of the wire simultaneously with the fuse
blowing!  if you cannot find the source of short that caused it, possibly it
is an intermittant short and no matter what you do or how long you scratch
your head, it's not going to found untill circumstances are recreated.   so
put a fuse in it and proceed with the testing!
(sorry, wish i had a difinitive answer that was of the utmost reassurance. )

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>; Yahoo Spridget list
<midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, January 11, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: RESOLVED: No spark at points????


>Thank you to all that replied. Even though the Bentley said the condenser
>should be good (via the test where I checked for voltage across the
>points), it wasn't, and now the car runs well. BUT, after the 20 minutes at
>2,000 rpm to break the cam bearings in, I lost the tach and fuel gauge. I
>found a burnt fuse, I replaced it, and it went up again. Anyone have an
>idea where a common occurrence might cause the fuse to go? I have used my
>multimeter to find that the problem is in the white wire coming out of the
>fuse block. But past that, I am at a loss. Oh, yeah, this is a 68 Sprite.
>TIA,
>Brad






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan 11 18:31:45 2004
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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:31:22 EST
Subject: Re: LBC Gen'l Interest
To: PilotRob@webtv.net, lbc@littlebitcountry.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/11/04 10:19:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
PilotRob@webtv.net writes:


> A-H's
> went for somewhere between US $3-3500
> back in the early 60's. 

I bought a brand new 1966 BJ-8 from a dealer in Cincinnati and paid about 
$4,000 for it (maybe just under--don't remember exact amount).  Traded in a 1963 
TR-4.

--David C.






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Brad Fornal wrote:

>  Anyone have an
> idea where a common occurrence might cause the fuse to go? 


Brad

The tach/fuel gauges are hooked in with the brake light/signals too.
So look for a short on any of the green wires.
Brake lights
turn signals
or something touching behind the gauges.

The white wire feeds the fuse block when the key is on.
it is NOT fused until it turns green on the other side of the fuse block.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: car stereo for Mini
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:50:43 -0600

> They went out with AM-only radios, circa 1969.

No No, they were still standard in 1980. IMHO, GM et al figured that by
abandoning the standards they could eliminate thrid-party car stereo sales
and make more money by selling a $100 OEM stereo for $300 under the
assumption that Sony and Pioneer and so forth would just abandon the market.
For some reason public reaction never seems to do what the Big Three think
they should. Just as well, I guess. At any rate, processor-controlled
stereos allow the designer to do anything they want to screw up the user
interface, so they do. </rant>
David Lieb






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From Dbcooper292 at aol.com
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Subject: clutch bearing removal

Call me a pansy, but I brought mine to a machine shop and paid 15 bones to have them swapped.  I have a pretty extensive shop and try a lot of stuff myself, and probably could have done it with a vise or something, but it was so cheap and so important, and located in such a bitch of a place to get back to, it seemed like discretion was the better part of valor on that one.

Mark M.






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Subject: Re: RESOLVED: No spark at points????
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:12:16 -0000

Brad,
If there is only one white on the fusebox it should go direct to the
ignition switch.  It feeds -- via that fuse -- all the stuff that comes on
when you turn on the ignition.
tach, fuel pump, wipers, brake stop light, reversing lights, heater fan.....

The fault must be on the "downstream" side of the fuse for it to blow, so it
is likely to be one of those, or the wiring to them. Some of these are
switchable: lights, wipers, fan etc so if they are switched off when the
fuse blows then it may be one of the non- switched items although it could
still be a damaged wire between fuse block and switch.

Guy
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Brad Fornal" <toyman at digitex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>; "Yahoo Spridget list"
<midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 12:23 AM
Subject: RESOLVED: No spark at points????


> Thank you to all that replied. Even though the Bentley said the condenser
> should be good (via the test where I checked for voltage across the
> points), it wasn't, and now the car runs well. BUT, after the 20 minutes
at
> 2,000 rpm to break the cam bearings in, I lost the tach and fuel gauge. I
> found a burnt fuse, I replaced it, and it went up again. Anyone have an
> idea where a common occurrence might cause the fuse to go? I have used my
> multimeter to find that the problem is in the white wire coming out of the
> fuse block. But past that, I am at a loss. Oh, yeah, this is a 68 Sprite.
> TIA,
> Brad






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From Steven Michelsen <stevenm at optonline.net>
Subject: Re: LBC Gen'l Interest
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Cc: Dave Yealy <lbc@littlebitcountry.com>
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  <6.0.1.1.2.20040111123701.03824ab0@mail.usimperio.com>

To really get this number right you EITHER have to figure the exchange rate
in 1963 (not today's), OR get the number (in pounds) up to UK current value,
then convert to US$ at today's exchange rate.

Unfortunately, I could only goes find charts that track exchange rates back
to 1971:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/H10/hist/dat89_uk.txt

But this page can bring the value of 1963 pounds up to 2002 pounds (close
enough?)....
http://eh.net/hmit/ppowerbp/?action=before70&pounds=&shillings=500&pence=&ye
ar=1975

The page above gave me this....
Base model:   #11117.72 in the year 2002 has the same "purchase power" as
#865, 00s, 00d in the year 1963.
With options:  #12634.36 in the year 2002 has the same "purchase power" as
#983, s, d in the year 1963.

SO, in 2002, with an exchange rate of $1.50 =  #1, the equivalent selling
price would be about $16,676 for the base model and $18,951 with the
options.

OR with today's exchange rate of $1.85 = #1, the equivalent selling price
would be about $20,541 for the base model and $23,373 with the options.

Going the a completely different way, using Robert's figure of $3500 in
1963, and using http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ to calculate inflation,
the car would cost $20,027. in 2002, or roughly $21k today.

So looking at all of the above, we have a ball park number.

OK, my brain hurts now.
Steve

----- Original Message -----
From "Dave Yealy" <lbc at littlebitcountry.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: LBC Gen'l Interest


> This is what I come up with converting the Pounds to Dollars then
> calculating the inflation rate from 1963 to 2003. I'm sure there is a more
> precise method of going about this but since we won't be buying one for
> this price it should be close enough.
> Hope the mail server doesn't screw up the columns
>
> Dave
> 60-61-61 Bugeyes
>
>
>                                  1963 (L)        1963 ($)        2003 ($)
> >A-H 3000 Sports Conv.    L865.00.00             1597.82         9660.02
> >(Mono or DuoTone)
> >
> >Prod. Line fitted extras:
> >
> >Heater                                  15.10.00        28.00
169.28
> >Overdrive                              50.00.00         93.00
562.25
> >Wire Wheels                        25.00.00             46.18
279.19
> >Adj. Steering Col.                   2.00.00            3.70
22.37
> >Tonneau                               10.00.00  18.50           111.85
> >Knockoffs (ea. wheel)              1.06.00      1.96             11.85
> >Servo Ass't.
> >Brakes                10.00.00     18.50           111.85
> >*Steering
> >Lock                       4.10.00            7.57             45.77
> >*Wing Mirror                          1.11.04           2.05
12.39
>
> Totals                                       983.37           1817.28
>     10986.82






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I haven't exactly been following this thread, but if you are trying to 
calculate the cost new factoring-in inflation, wouldn't the accurate 
comparison be to start with the cost new of the vehicle in the US? The 
cost in the UK doesn't take into consideration cost of shipping and 
duties, does it?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>

Steven Michelsen wrote:

>To really get this number right you EITHER have to figure the exchange rate
>in 1963 (not today's), OR get the number (in pounds) up to UK current value,
>then convert to US$ at today's exchange rate.






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Subject: Re: LBC Gen'l Interest
  12 Jan 2004 09:39:59 -0500

You need an aspirin, Steve....

and thanx to fellow listers, I have one! :)

The exchange rate circa '63 ran $2.40-
$2.80. So, $2.60 would be good enough
for "government work" in terms of 
conversion for yesterday's US dollar
valuation, which was my aim.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: LBC Gen'l Interest
  Jan 2004 10:16:10 -0500

Nope, it doesn't jf.

DLancer bought one for just under $4k
back in '66 and thanx to fellow listers
we know the exchange rate back in the
early 60's was approx. $2.60. I recall 
they went for nearly 3.5k back when I was
20 or so, so I have what I need to figure
the old price. The rest would be import
duties/customs, dealer prep, state tax
in our case, etc. which brings us about
to DLancer's just under 4k figure, with
wire wheels, tonneau, radio and the like.

Unfortunately, I "buried" my light powered
calculater under some stuff for the last
couple of months. It should become
"enlightened" by this evening...then so will
I!! :)

It is interesting they do not show a radio
as an option. It is amusing they show
wire wheels and knockoffs as separate
options. Must be the British dry sense
of humor, eh? ("And would you want
keys with that, Guv?":)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Sprite II - CA
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:19:31 -0600

>From EditorGary (healeys List) via Ed:

"Got a line yesterday on a Sprite MkII body shell (chassis, doors, trunk
lid,
front clip and bonnet) that is in reported to be in reasonably good shape in
northern California. It was rescued by a car guy who lives near Placerville
from a bunch of car stuff that was destined for the scrapper (they have
nasty
"junk yard" laws in that county). He'd like to see it be used in a
restoration.
Time is limited since the junk yard inspectors are getting closer to his
property. I haven't seen it and can't report on condition, but would be
happy to put
a Sprite restorer in touch with him. No idea of price, but sure it would be
reasonable as long as the buyer took care of removal.
Cheers
Gary Anderson"

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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
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Subject: Color
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:28:53 -0500

Is there any way to find out what color my 79 Mutant Midget was from the
factory?  PO had it painted metal flake blue through out inside and out.

Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Hardtop front latch
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:57:56 -0500

All,

Before I bite the bullet and order a pair of new bugeye front hardtop latches
from AH Spares, would anyone happen to have a pair of latches that are old and
abused.  If I can locate a pair that are cosmetically impaired but functional
I could use them.

Thanks,
Biff Jones
'59 Bugeye, 'Kermit'
'62 Sprite, 'Ole Gray'
'71 Midget, 'Freebie'
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Subject: Re: LBC Gen'l Interest
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 18:08:37 -0000

I think The Cap'n intentionally "set a hare running" with this one!

The price quoted in GBP to someone, as I understand it, living in Germany in
1963 could not simply be converted in dollars anyway, even at the exchange
rates pertaining at the time.

The marketing strategy at the time was to boost UK exports in order to
increase currency income to the UK.. Even in 1963 the UK was still
recovering economically from WW2 with rationing having continued on some
commodities well into the late '50s. UK car manufacturers during the '50s
had a limit on steel supply that was boosted only by export (and not by home
market) sales.  That is why 80% of British sports car production ended up in
the States.

The price that cars were sold in the USA was not just a matter of converting
the UK (or European) price at the exchange rate.  There was, I believe, a
different USA price list for many of these models, depending on what the
marketing men believed that the USA market would stand.

Guy

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> I haven't exactly been following this thread, but if you are trying to
> calculate the cost new factoring-in inflation, wouldn't the accurate
> comparison be to start with the cost new of the vehicle in the US? The
> cost in the UK doesn't take into consideration cost of shipping and
> duties, does it?
>
> jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
> Home of "The Innocenti Project"
> 61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
> 63 Pink Sprite MkII
> 74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
> http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>






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Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: LBC Gen'l Interest
  Jan 2004 18:08:37 -0000

"hare running" (apparently so!:)

Guy...

Actually, my only intent here was to
see what the price quoted at the time
was, at the going conversion rate back
then in terms of US dollars. :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: RESOLVED: No spark at points????
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  <3FF8A83C.2050901@exit109.com> <4001E907.449EFDDA@digitex.net>
  <4001FA0D.5020505@exit109.com>
  FILETIME=[D10DF720:01C3D96A]

I went out to check the signal and brake lights. Nothing. I pressed the
hazard switch, it was stuck, it finally broke loose. I still have nothing,
but I bet the stiffness in the switch was not caused by viagra. Anyone have a
68 or 69 hazard switch that they are willing to sell/trade? This switch is
one I made up out of it and one from a wrecking yard years ago. It only made
one side flash, so I guess it time was due long ago.
Thanks,
Brad

Frank Clarici wrote:

> Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> >  Anyone have an
> > idea where a common occurrence might cause the fuse to go?
>
> Brad
>
> The tach/fuel gauges are hooked in with the brake light/signals too.
> So look for a short on any of the green wires.
> Brake lights
> turn signals
> or something touching behind the gauges.
>
> The white wire feeds the fuse block when the key is on.
> it is NOT fused until it turns green on the other side of the fuse block.
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 12 17:25:24 2004
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:25:02 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net
Cc: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets),
   midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com (Yahoo Spridget list)
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Re: RESOLVED: No spark at points????
  2004 18:18:59 -0600

Ah...of course!! :(

The GD Hazard Switch (yet, again).

Do yourself a favor, Brad. When you get
ahold of another one of these (sorry, I
don't have one), find a way of hooking it
up separately from the rest of the system.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Ralph Heacox" <marinaratt at hotmail.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Parts & Paint
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:48:42 -0800
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Just put a bunch of parts on e-bay. As far as I have been able to determine 
the stuff is all MKI. If your interested in any of it I'd be glad to provide 
every last detail of what I know about em.
Very restore able bonnet, trunk floor pan, rt side floor pan, axel 
shafts,tie rod assembly,steering columns and a lot of assorted tyranny's in 
various states of disassembly. I just got a 60 from my Dad  Dad had in 
storage for a couple of decades. Included is most complete of another 60 
that he disassembled for parts. Anybody looking for anything in particular? 
I might have an extra. Thanks for the paint info. I want to return mine to 
the original white and I was wondering about where I was going to fine the 
paint codes.

_________________________________________________________________
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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Not Your Father's Amphicar, Wet LBC
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Ever wonder what rich guys do with their money?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040112/od_uk_nm/oukoe_people_branson_1

Rick

__________________________________
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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 03:40:29 2004
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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Not Your Father's Amphicar, Wet LBC
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Ever wonder what rich guys do with their money?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040112/od_uk_nm/oukoe_people_branson_1

Rick

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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 06:32:55 2004
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:32:29 -0500 (EST)
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Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Not Your Father's Amphicar, Wet LBC
  Jan 2004 02:40:11 -0800 (PST)

Branson...

Sure he makes money and he should.
Probably one of the best, if not THE
best employers in the world. Most anything he touches turns to gold....
he hires the right people who know how
to treat his people "properly".




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "PBS Architects, Inc." <pbsarcht at mindspring.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: A Weird One
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:40:34 -0500

Here's a weird one.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2452570797

David Sullivan
Phelps Browning Sullivan, Architects, Inc.
1968 Mk IV Sprite






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Subject: fuel sendind unit
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Happy New Year group,

I just got my fuel tank back from the powder coater. When installing the new fuel sending unit, is there any sealant used on the gasket before installation??

Larry Pitts 






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Subject: Re: A Weird One
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:52:38 -0800

 Somebody spent a ton of money to ruin this one.  
Kate






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:02:09 EST
Subject: Re: A Weird One
To: pbsarcht@mindspring.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/13/2004 9:46:27 AM Mountain Standard Time,
pbsarcht@mindspring.com writes:
Here's a weird one.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2452570797

David Sullivan


Isn't that a BGT with the roof cut off?

Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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  from [141.150.139.72] at Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:03:39 -0600

PBS Architects, Inc. wrote:

>Here's a weird one.
>
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2452570797
>  
>
Hey, I know this car.  I checked it out last summer.  It sits in 
Kingston, NJ on Rt. 27 across from the Main Street Deli.  It is a weird 
conversion to say the least.  The back seats have no place for you legs 
and I would think a regular size person would hit his head on the hood.  
Also not sure where you would store the hood if you folded it down.  It 
has been for sale for 1 to 2 years at least.  It has been in the lot a 
long time.  I think if you wanted it cash could get it.

Gilroy






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Subject: Re: A Weird One
From shelden3 at pldi.net
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Hummm maybe the first MGB SUV? Or MGB wagon?  Could be a herse for midgets
(no pun).



> Here's a weird one.
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2452570797
>
> David Sullivan
> Phelps Browning Sullivan, Architects, Inc.
> 1968 Mk IV Sprite






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 12:25:37 2004
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From jonathanb at onebox.com
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: FW: MG Vintage Racing Event at Laguna Seca
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:25:10 -0500
  x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"

Message from local bay area MG club - an incentive to get my midget finished fast!

JB


-----Original Message-----
From     dan shockey <dpshockey at earthlink.net>
Sent:     Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:26:23 -0800
To:       
Subject:  MG Vintage Racing Event at Laguna Seca

Hello,

Word about this has started to spread quickly with a lot of excitement.
I was told by the main man at HMSA (Cris below) that we will be able to
have our MG corral in the main paddock area, that we will get free entry
to the event if we are in an MG and that we will get 30-40 minutes on
the track at noon (without charge). (Seat belts and hemets required.
Details to follow.)

We are thinking to designate Saturday (March 20) as the main event day
but we can have the corral both days. We are discussing designating an
event hotel in Monterey for those who want to make a weekend of it. A
group dinner Saturday evening would be nice, too.

Since this is rather short notice, we are working with the other area MG
clubs to make plans quickly so we can get the word out. Ideas welcome.
Hotel and restaurnat suggestions are welcome. (Event press release
below.)

Thank you to Ferdinand Schoch for the heads up on this.

Cheers,
Dan Shockey

HISTORIC MG REUNION HONORS MARQUE'S RACING SUCCESS, PAYS TRIBUTE TO
LEGENDS

MONTROSE, Calif. _ Jan. 5. 2004 - The Historic Motor Sports Association
will honor MG in American racing with a special historic race weekend
March 20 and 21, 2004, at the Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca in Monterey,
Calif.

The celebration will feature many race-winning MGs from the fifties and
sixties, including the 1950 MG TD Von Neumann Special, and the famous
Ken Miles R1 and R2 Shingles.

The event will also pay tribute to the Kjell Qvale's San Francisco BMCD
Sebring team. It will be 40 years ago to the day in 1964 that two MGBs
from the three-car team finished 17th and 22nd overall at the 12 hours
of Sebring. Those two cars will be reunited with Qvale; Joe Huffaker,
who prepared the cars; surviving drivers Ed Leslie, Jim Parkinson and
Jim Adams; crew chief Frank Morrill; and other members of the original
team.

In addition to a full weekend of historic racing, other scheduled
highlights include an all-MG race and special paddock displays including
the first MGB out of the factory.

MG sparked public interest in the marque with its racing success, which
began in the early 1930s to promote the road cars. MG quickly became
synonymous with the term "sports car."

MG stands for Morris Garages, which was the Oxford distributor for
Morris cars. In 1922, under the direction of general manager Cecil
Kimber, the company started modifying standard Morris Cowleys, lowering
the chassis and fitting more sporting bodywork to adhere to Kimber's
creed: "A sports car should look fast, even when it is standing still."
By 1924, Morris Garages was advertising the MG Special Four-Seater
Sports, and had incorporated the famous octagonal badge into the copy.

The Historic MG Reunion is produced by the Historic Motor Sports
Association (HMSA) whose purpose is to encourage the restoration,
preservation and use of historic, sports and racing cars. For more
information contact HMSA at 818-249-3515 or visit www.hmsausa.com.

Media Contact: Cris Vandagriff, HMSA, 818-249-3515, hmsa@hmsausa.com






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Subject: From the MINI Roadfly board - re: the Mazda RX-8

"Funny picture in car and driver a few months ago - a reader sent in a 
picture of the front end of the RX-8, put some chicklits in the front 
grill and it looked just like bugs bunny..."

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
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There was a company in England a few years ago, Lenham I believe, that 
did convertible conversions of B-GT's. They appeared to be done to a 
high standard and  made a good amount of sense for those wanting 
additional rear seat room since the GT has a longer wheelbase.

I don't know if Lenham does this conversion anymore and likewise have no 
idea what was the basis of this jalopy on ebay.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>


PBS Architects, Inc. wrote:

>Here's a weird one.
>
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2452570797






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Subject: Re: A Weird One
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:14:18 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

MGB 2 + 2 ?

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From <shelden3 at pldi.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: A Weird One


> Hummm maybe the first MGB SUV? Or MGB wagon?  Could be a herse for midgets
> (no pun).
>
>
>
> > Here's a weird one.
> >
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2452570797
> >
> > David Sullivan
> > Phelps Browning Sullivan, Architects, Inc.
> > 1968 Mk IV Sprite






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 13:54:13 2004
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No picture.
Try this  
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/handleHomeFlash.action?vehicleCode=RX8&modelYear=2004
Then manually insert the teeth.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
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Wm. Thompson wrote:

>forget the picture?






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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:14:10 -0500 (EST)
To: Pasgeirsson@att.net (PAsgeirsson)
Cc: shelden3@pldi.net, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: A Weird One
  Jan 2004 12:14:18 -0800

Hmmm....

A "family" man who wants to have his
cake and eat it too? :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Subject: Under Penalty of Law . . .

Greetings to All:

One of the parts catalogs says ". . . caliper halves should never be 
separated. . ." in their disc brake parts section.

Well, my Sprite calipers have been separated. Is separating calipers into 
halves a sin something like removing the tag from a mattress?

Oh, well. Now they have to go back together. The bolts are marked GNK LOC S 
and WILEY S, two of each. I don't know if the PO changed a caliper or if 
one bolt of each type is used in each caliper. I think the important things 
here are to use locking bolts (probably new ones) and to properly torque them.

Has anyone BTDT and if so, what torque did you use? What other helpful 
hints do I need to know about putting the calipers back together. How hard 
can this be? It's just four bolts.

Tim






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I would first recommend a trial separation. If that doesn't work out, 
then you will need to deal with the problem of custody of the pistons.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
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Timothy H. Collins wrote:

> Greetings to All:
>
> One of the parts catalogs says ". . . caliper halves should never be 
> separated. . ." in their disc brake parts section.
>
> Well, my Sprite calipers have been separated. Is separating calipers 
> into halves a sin






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   Spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
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Subject: Gotta love this sig line..........
  FILETIME=[85EAF550:01C3DA2C]

I got this off the Morris
Minor list from Rick Feibusch.
It has a certain ring of truth
to it!!

"PETA is more violently
opposed to people wearing
 fur than leather because it's
safer to harass
 rich women than bikers..."






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From "spridget" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Fw: Under Penalty of Law . . .
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:25:22 -0500

> winter has set in for you jay - hasn't it?
>
> Dan
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jay Fishbein" <type79@ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Under Penalty of Law . . .
>
>
> > I would first recommend a trial separation. If that doesn't work out,
> > then you will need to deal with the problem of custody of the pistons.
> >
> > jay fishbein
> > wallingford, ct
> > Home of "The Innocenti Project"
> > 61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
> > 63 Pink Sprite MkII
> > 74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
> > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/
<http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: NAPA heater valve
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:57:12 -0800

If anyone else encounters the need for a 1/2", inline, cable operated heater
valve, here is the number of one you can get from NAPA for about $28.

"Four Seasons #74627"

Gerard put me onto this and it is the perfect solution for the Morris Minor
heater.  Now all you guys who argued on and on about whether closing the
heater tap on the head was good or bad can install one of these and switch
back and forth from the cockpit and stare at your temp gauge to see what
difference it makes.

In my case, it keeps the hot water out of the cockpit mounted mini heater in
the Morris during the summer months.  Even with no air flow, the presence of
that hot water filled box in the cab can be felt.  Not so much of an issue on
a spridget where the box of hot water is under the bonnet.

The winter mods on the boss's Traveller are almost done.  Test fired the motor
last night, tested the wiring harness, started the interior installation and
will soon have a nice set of Peter C. shocks to complete the front end
rebuild.  My turn in the new Mini is coming soon!!!!!  Really looking forward
to the mufflerless drive across town to the shop to mate the exhaust system to
the new manifold.  Should be the baddest a** sounding woody in the state.

Glen






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From Mike MacLean <macleans at earthlink.net>
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   Spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Yahoo Spridget list
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Subject: Re: Gotta love this sig line..........
References: <40047E4F.3864991F@digitex.net>

I would not doubt some of the new "Boutique Bikers" or RUBs (rich urban 
bikers) are also members of PETA, except when they wear there designer 
leathers from the Harley Davidson Clothes Boutique (er, I mean 
dealership).  You see them every weekend.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 FLSTS (ridden almost every day while wearing leather)

Brad Fornal wrote:

>I got this off the Morris
>Minor list from Rick Feibusch.
>It has a certain ring of truth
>to it!!
>
>"PETA is more violently
>opposed to people wearing
> fur than leather because it's
>safer to harass
> rich women than bikers..."






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Larry Pitts <FUZZY95687@yahoo.com>
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: fuel sendind unit
References: <20040113172000.33850.qmail@web80605.mail.yahoo.com>

Larry Pitts wrote:
>  any sealant used on the gasket before installation?? 

Larry

I use Permatex sealant at the tank to the gasket.
do not use silicone, gas eats it.
PIECES had a leak at that gasket, Permatex fixed it.
I just installed the sender and tank in the yellow Sprite, I used 
Permatex on it too.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: Under Penalty of Law . . .
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Timothy H. Collins wrote:

> Well, my Sprite calipers have been separated. 

Be sure to renew the caliper half seal.
and use a drop of loctite on the bolts.
I seperate them all the time when I rebuild them.
I don't worry about what bolt came out of what hole either.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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  <40048A2E.7010409@earthlink.net>

A couple of years ago, a friend went to the local HD dealer to check out 
the bikes with the intention of buying one and said he felt like he was 
walking into a clothing store. There was lots of jackets and other 
clothing and accessories but no bikes!

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>

Mike MacLean wrote:

> I would not doubt some of the new "Boutique Bikers" or RUBs (rich 
> urban bikers)






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: More on Sprite brakes
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   midgetsprite group
  <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>

Finally had the time to do some disassembly work and
find that the left rear wheel cylinder is the culprit
and the drum was awash in a slick combination of brake
dust, brake fluid, grease and dirt.

I also have noticed that the left rear wheel bleeder
takes a 1/4 inch wrench, the right rear takes a
5/16ths inch, and of course the front disk brake
bleeders are the larger ones but at least they are the
same size.

I will have to check further to see if the leak is at
the bleeder or a leaky (don't say blown) seal. But
even a cursory exam shows the need for major brake
work.

Ah well, at least it is winter and I will have awhile
to work on it.

Also, is there an aftermarket bleeder that fits the
Sprite brakes, front and/or rear, that would not leak
air like the originals do when being bled? Also,
suppose that the rear bleeders are different sizes
because the PO used a bleeder from a different auto.
If so, are the thread count and size of bleeder
compatible with other US car models?

thanks, bill b. '69 Sprite

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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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Subject: Craftsman Tool Question
  FILETIME=[F3A0F010:01C3DA52]

I have an old craftsman power
hack saw that was made in the
1950's. I am looking for parts
and/or online information
about this item. It is model
108.1501. I appreciate any
help anyone can offer in
helping me to get this back
into working condition.
TIA,
Brad






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   midgetsprite group
  <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: More on Sprite brakes
References: <20040114032144.3921.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com>

Speedbleeders (.com) has the aelf bleeders for Sprites.
1/4 x 28 for the rears, 3/8 x 24 for the front discs and clutch slave.

As for different size bleeders on the rear w/cyls, some aftermarket 
cylinders come with a slightly different size bleeder.
I have a set where it is somewhere between 1/4" and 5/16"
It is a 7mm wrench! But at least I have a matched pair.
I also had to buy a 7mm wrench :)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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On Wednesday 14 January 2004 03:21 am, bill b. wrote:
> I will have to check further to see if the leak is at
> the bleeder or a leaky (don't say blown) seal. But
> even a cursory exam shows the need for major brake
> work.

The fact that you have fluid in the drum points to the cylinder as the 
culprit.

Pulling the cylinder is not a big deal.   In my experience it's not the seal 
that fails but it's a case where dirt get's between the seal and the cylinder 
bore.   Once this starts (and allows air to get in) the bore begins to 
corrode.  You can only home those bores so many times....






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Gotta love this sig line..........
To: Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net>, slobberbone@yahoogroups.com,
   I-Race@yahoogroups.com, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Yahoo
  Spridget list <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>

In Boston, PETA members approached little kids with
their fur-wearing mothers on the way in  to attending
Christmas performances of the Nutcracker ballet,
screaming, "Your mommy murdered little animals so she
could wear her coat."  Nice guys.  My advice: "You're
at the top of the food chain, eat like it!"

Rick "Mad Cow"

--- Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net> wrote:
> I got this off the Morris
> Minor list from Rick Feibusch.
> It has a certain ring of truth
> to it!!
> 
> "PETA is more violently
> opposed to people wearing
>  fur than leather because it's
> safer to harass
>  rich women than bikers..."
> 
>

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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Baseball, Apple pie and ???(Attn. Frank)
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Another one for Frank's collection.  Went to the local
"World of Wheels" hot rod show on Sunday.  Included in
the swag being handed out by the GM Performance guys
was a Chevy bowtie lapel pin neatly packaged in a
little bag emblazoned with "Made in China"


Rick

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To: "Brad Fornal" <toyman@digitex.net>,
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Subject: Re: Craftsman Tool Question
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:39:59 -0500

brad,
quite a while ago i had a sears air compressor wich was manufactured by
devilbis.  when it broke sears told me the item was on back order.  3-4
months of waiting for the back order wich was destined to never come
prompted me to buy a whole new compressor.
i contacted devilbis and they did manufacture my compressor.   but!  they
explained although they were the manufacturer they were under contract to
NOT sell any parts for the sears model to the public in any way.   all sears
model units parts MUST be purchased through sears only as they had a sole
distributorship agreement.
now getting to your model of equiptment.   first off you have no place to go
to but sears to start with.  if there is any way to find out who
manufactured it then possibly you can find a parts list for the model you
have.    back in the 50's and 60's most of the sears craftsman stuff was not
sears specific but just relabeled brand name stuff.   but whose brand and
are they still in business or if not, who bought them out and are parts for
repairs still available?   possibly sears might be able to send you a copy
of the original parts list?   or do you have a sears service center near you
where you can physically go there and look at the listings they have for any
still available parts?    all just "thoughts" on directions i have gone to
try to salvage old equiptment i have here.    possibly something might lead
you to a resolve of this situation?

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>; Yahoo Spridget list
<midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:00 PM
Subject: Craftsman Tool Question


>I have an old craftsman power
>hack saw that was made in the
>1950's. I am looking for parts
>and/or online information
>about this item. It is model
>108.1501. I appreciate any
>help anyone can offer in
>helping me to get this back
>into working condition.
>TIA,
>Brad






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From Dbcooper292 at aol.com
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: soldering gun

I know someone had a question about getting a decent soldering gun a while back.  My wife got me one for Christmas that seems pretty good.  It's made by a company called Lenk, I think, and in America!  It's 90 watts and comes with a couple spares, and I can't vouch for the durability because I just got it, but it seems pretty good.  35 bucks at Aubuchon.

Mark M.






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Throw Rick a turkey leg.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>

Rick Neville wrote:

> My advice: "You're at the top of the food chain, eat like it!"






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To: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component

Another NOS Abarth muffler is on ebay. (From the same seller as the last 
one. Must have a crate of 'em.)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2454294122&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1
-- 

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
Home of "The Innocenti Project"
61 Innocenti 950 Spyder
63 Pink Sprite MkII
74 RWA Midget 38,000 miles
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ <http://home.ix.netcom.com/%7Etype79/>






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <40055066.1050601@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:52:08 -0600

> Another NOS Abarth muffler is on ebay. (From the same seller as the last
> one. Must have a crate of 'em.)

I don't know about that, but he does have a few other items of Spridgetly
interest for sale including a Sprite arrow for the boot. Good thing I have
already blown my Spridget budget ;-)
David Lieb
1972 RWA Midget
2002 GTI for Trish to beat me at autocross with






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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:22:12 -0500 (EST)
To: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
  14 Jan 2004 08:52:08 -0600

Another Abarth!!

Sounds like a vendor making money "on
the side"? :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:33:11 EST
Subject: Re: Craftsman Tool Question
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net, toyman@digitex.net, spridgets@autox.team.net,
   midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com

In a message dated 01/14/2004 4:41:11 AM Mountain Standard Time,
cfchrist@earthlink.net writes:
or do you have a sears service center near you
where you can physically go there and look at the listings they have for any
still available parts?


Just a note about Sears Service Centers....There is one here that I sometimes
frequent.  When my Craftsman reciprocating saw that I bought on sale for $80
quit working, (must have been all that angle iron I cut) I took it to the
service center for repair.  The lady said there is a "standard charge for all
repairs to reciprocating saws of ...(guess how much?) $80."

She then said they had some "reconditioned" saws for $69!  I bought a heavy
duty replacement for $69...took my old one home and opened it up to find a
loose wire...so now I hve two.

She let me look through a bin in the back of the store where they piled the
"reconditioned" tools....I also picked up a 2 7/8 HP skilsaw for $39.00!

Cool place the Service Center.


Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:47:38 EST
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Gotta love this sig line..........
To: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com, slobberbone@yahoogroups.com,
   I-Race@yahoogroups.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/13/04 3:28:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
toyman@digitex.net writes:


> "PETA is more violently
> opposed to people wearing
> fur than leather because it's
> safer to harass
> rich women than bikers..."
> 

PETA. . .isn't that the "People Eating Tasty Animals" group?  8^)

--David C.






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From Jim Juhas <james.f.juhas at snet.net>
  5.0; U)
To: Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net>
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Craftsman Tool Question
References: <4004BEDE.8089A4C9@digitex.net>

Go to www.sears.com and put in your model number.  It returns a diagram and a
parts list.  I clicked through on a main gear and it told me I could order one
for $34.15.

Brad Fornal wrote:

> I have an old craftsman power hack saw that was made in the 1950's. I
> am looking for parts and/or online information about this item. It is
> model 108.1501. I appreciate any help anyone can offer in helping me
> to get this back into working condition.
>
> TIA,
> Brad






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From Jim Juhas <james.f.juhas at snet.net>
  5.0; U)
To: "bill b." <w_burrell@yahoo.com>
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: More on Sprite brakes
References: <20040114032144.3921.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com>

New cylinders for the rear are not all that expensive.  A complete fix quick and
easy.  I bleed them with a vacuum on the bleeder, and I haven't had leak
problems.  Most of the brake contamination I encountered, though, came from the
axle seals.  As long as you're in there, easy to fix.

"bill b." wrote:

> Finally had the time to do some disassembly work and find that the
> left rear wheel cylinder is the culprit and the drum was awash in a
> slick combination of brake dust, brake fluid, grease and dirt.
>
> I also have noticed that the left rear wheel bleeder takes a 1/4 inch
> wrench, the right rear takes a 5/16ths inch, and of course the front
> disk brake bleeders are the larger ones but at least they are the same
> size.
>
> I will have to check further to see if the leak is at the bleeder or a
> leaky (don't say blown) seal. But even a cursory exam shows the need
> for major brake work.
>
> Ah well, at least it is winter and I will have awhile
> to work on it.
>
> Also, is there an aftermarket bleeder that fits the Sprite brakes,
> front and/or rear, that would not leak air like the originals do when
> being bled? Also, suppose that the rear bleeders are different sizes
> because the PO used a bleeder from a different auto.  If so, are the
> thread count and size of bleeder compatible with other US car models?
>
> thanks, bill b. '69 Sprite






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: cant post
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

im sending this because it feels like i can never post to the group. 
can you all see this?


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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "the flashfire" <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:04:25 -0500

loud and clear!

chuck
-----Original Message-----
From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 12:54 PM
Subject: cant post


>im sending this because it feels like i can never post to the group. 
>can you all see this?
>
>
>=====
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>262 880 4570






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To: "the flashfire" <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040114175329.15600.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:14:09 -0600

Hi Blake!
I got the post just fine, but I do not recall seeing anything from you
before. I don't think anyone at this list has any wheels for you....
David Lieb
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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: cant post
To: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

yeah but i dont want any more 16 hour car rides with no idea what you
fogies are talkin' about.  i joined this list shortly after our return
from rivergate, but due to some weird things i have set up in my email
i couldnt return posts...apparently till now 0_o


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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 14 11:25:31 2004
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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: cant post
To: Larry Miller <millerls@ado13.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

i get your posts just fine, what i dont get is MY posts to the group
echoed back to me.



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Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:31:48 -0600

"Fogies"?! I guess I should be grateful that you didn't say "old fogies".
What do you mean "16 hour" Seems to me it was more like 24 to 30 hours. Or
did you mean one way? No, I wasn't talking about your Bugeye, Willie!
David Lieb






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040114182459.25689.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:32:55 -0600

> i get your posts just fine, what i dont get is MY posts to the group
> echoed back to me.

Don't feel too bad. We weren't getting your posts either, so it was fairly
equitable.
David Lieb






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: Bud Osbourne <abcoz@hky.com>, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Yahoo Spridget list <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Craftsman Tool Question
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  FILETIME=[C3B1F870:01C3DACC]

That is my hope, is to find a venue, to find one to cannibalize.

Thanks,
Brad

Bud Osbourne wrote:

> Brad,
> I had a Craftsman table saw of similar vintage.  Since Craftsman power tools
> were/are manufactured for Sears by outside manufacturers (Delta, B&D, etc.),
> you need to find out which company actually made your saw.  If you can come
> up with a model # and part#, you MAY get lucky.  But, you will probably find
> that they can't help you.  Best bet is to either find another of the same,
> to cannibalize for parts or to do what I did and trade for a newer/better
> model, at a used tool place.
> Bud Osbourne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-spridgets@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:01 PM
> To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list
> Subject: Craftsman Tool Question
>
> I have an old craftsman power
> hack saw that was made in the
> 1950's. I am looking for parts
> and/or online information
> about this item. It is model
> 108.1501. I appreciate any
> help anyone can offer in
> helping me to get this back
> into working condition.
> TIA,
> Brad






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: cant post
To: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

i assumed "old" was implied.

--- David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> "Fogies"?! I guess I should be grateful that you didn't say "old
> fogies".
> What do you mean "16 hour" Seems to me it was more like 24 to 30
> hours. Or
> did you mean one way? No, I wasn't talking about your Bugeye, Willie!
> David Lieb


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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: my excitement for the day.
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

i talked to this dude today, (i work in a call center) and he asked me
if i was from memphis, which im not, and explained i hadn't been to TN
since i went to rivergate.  he asked if i meant the mall, (?) but i
told him that no, i meant the tuner shop and that we had dropped off my
dads austin-healey for a new motor/drivetrain.  he got all excited and
tells me that when he was 5 years old he used to be caretaker for a
lawn down in florida that was owned by healey.  He said Healey's wife
had this house built for him and they were the caretakers, but healey
passed before he ever got to see it and once he passed away they moved
to TN.  So that was pretty cool.

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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 14 12:03:30 2004
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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "the flashfire" <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>,
   "Larry Miller"
  <millerls@ado13.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:02:25 -0500

just a stupid thought but, if you are not posting in plain text the posts do
not get through at all!   i have to remember to change from html to plain
text with evry post to this list.  (or delete the trailer and as much text
as i can?).

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
To: Larry Miller <millerls@ado13.com>; spridgets@autox.team.net
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: cant post


>i get your posts just fine, what i dont get is MY posts to the group
>echoed back to me.
>
>
>
>=====
>the flashfire
>262 880 4570






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040114185132.68893.qmail@web12508.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:08:04 -0600

> i assumed "old" was implied.

Hey! I resemble that remark!
I am not nearly so old and opinionated as I intend to be.

My daddy always told me that "it is better to get old than not to."
A friend of mine later appended that "the alternatives can be He11".


5 years old and the guy was a caretaker? What happened to child labor laws?
David Lieb
1972 RWA Midget 
2002 GTI for Trish to beat me at autocross with






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: cant post
To: Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net>,
   Larry Miller
  <millerls@ado13.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

clarici already told me that a while back so i only post in cleartext
now.  didnt help.  originally it was an issue with my reply name and
displayed name and actual email being three different emails that all
came to the same box, i believe i have fixed that now...but like i say
i still wasnt getting the echo.  i just sent something else into the
group, when i get replies for that i will know all is well :-p

--- Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net> wrote:
> just a stupid thought but, if you are not posting in plain text the
> posts do
> not get through at all!   i have to remember to change from html to
> plain
> text with evry post to this list.  (or delete the trailer and as much
> text
> as i can?).
> 
> chuck.
>

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From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: cant post
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At 12:24 PM 1/14/2004, the flashfire wrote:
>i get your posts just fine, what i dont get is MY posts to the group
>echoed back to me.
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============
Don't worry about it.... the past few haven't been worth reading anyway.

<g>
Peter C






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Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:47:05 -0800

> i assumed "old" was implied.

You might be wise to bear in mind that some listers are female, and we very
much dislike being referred to as "old".  Some of us might even be inclined
to place a spell on your Spridget, which could cause you no end of problems.
So be nice.

Kate
'72 RWA MG Midget






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: cant post / my excitement for the day.
To: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

he told me his parents were.  i wish i had such a clear recollection of
my younger days.



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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: cant post
To: Gary & Kathryn Bales <kgb@frontiernet.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net

i just meant my pa and lieb.  it's all downhill after 30, unless you're
a car.

--- Gary  & Kathryn Bales <kgb@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > i assumed "old" was implied.
> 
> You might be wise to bear in mind that some listers are female, and
> we very
> much dislike being referred to as "old".  Some of us might even be
> inclined
> to place a spell on your Spridget, which could cause you no end of
> problems.
> So be nice.
> 
> Kate
> '72 RWA MG Midget
> 
> 


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Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:59:52 -0500

hey, are you related to chuck?  i notice that you type the same....yuk-yuk.

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "the flashfire" <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
To: "Charles Christ" <cfchrist@earthlink.net>; "Larry Miller"
<millerls@ado13.com>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: cant post


> clarici already told me that a while back so i only post in cleartext
> now.  didnt help.  originally it was an issue with my reply name and
> displayed name and actual email being three different emails that all
> came to the same box, i believe i have fixed that now...but like i say
> i still wasnt getting the echo.  i just sent something else into the
> group, when i get replies for that i will know all is well :-p






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Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:06:58 -0600
  with any abuse report

go ahead, put a spell on his spridget, he wont care.

Now ask him WHY he wont care if you put a spell on his spridget LOL

-----Original Message-----
From Gary & Kathryn Bales [mailto:kgb at frontiernet.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:47 PM
To: the flashfire; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: cant post


> i assumed "old" was implied.

You might be wise to bear in mind that some listers are female, and we very
much dislike being referred to as "old".  Some of us might even be inclined
to place a spell on your Spridget, which could cause you no end of problems.
So be nice.

Kate
'72 RWA MG Midget






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:18:09 EST
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To: psychalgia@rocketmail.com, millerls@ado13.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/14/2004 11:25:31 AM Mountain Standard Time,
psychalgia@rocketmail.com writes:
i get your posts just fine, what i dont get is MY posts to the group
echoed back to me.


Do you have some sort of anti-spam software?

Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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References: <20040114193946.36748.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: cant post / my excitement for the day.
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:24:27 -0600

> i wish i had such a clear recollection of
> my younger days.

Heck, I have a vivid recollection of my brother talking me into eating a hot
pepper under the pretext of it being a carrot when I was five years old... I
guess I have always been gullible.
David Lieb
1972 RWA Midget
2002 GTI for Trish to beat me at autocross with






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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:25:39 EST
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To: kgb@frontiernet.net, psychalgia@rocketmail.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/14/2004 12:29:38 PM Mountain Standard Time,
kgb@frontiernet.net writes:
You might be wise to bear in mind that some listers are female, and we very
much dislike being referred to as "old".  Some of us might even be inclined
to place a spell on your Spridget, which could cause you no end of problems.
So be nice.

Kate
.

Hey, I just got back from getting a haircut...and I'm reall Pi$$ed Off!

The young lady cut my hair and then when I went to pay for it said "$6.00"

I pointed to the sign that said $6.95 and she replied "On Wednesday, senior
citizens get a discount"

$%##$@@#$%$^%!!!!!



Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:27:06 EST
Subject: Re: cant post / my excitement for the day.
To: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/14/2004 1:21:11 PM Mountain Standard Time,
dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com writes:
Heck, I have a vivid recollection of my brother talking me into eating a hot
pepper under the pretext of it being a carrot when I was five years old... I
guess I have always been gullible.
David Lieb
I have a story sort of like that with my ex-wife....but not for this list.

Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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I got this when I tried to reply to Kate....you filtering my out young lady?

Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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From "Mike Gigante" <mg at sgi.com>
To: "Dean Hedin" <dhedin@ieee.org>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: More on Sprite brakes
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:50:47 +1100

Dean said:

> Pulling the cylinder is not a big deal.  

Ah, yes, but getting that bloody C-clip back on can be a pain :-)

[...]

> You can only home those bores so many times....

What di you mean? I've been in my home for years now.

Mike






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:57:32 -0500

HEY!  i resemble that remark!  LOL!

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Geoff Branch <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: the flashfire <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>; spridgets@autox.team.net
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: cant post


>hey, are you related to chuck?  i notice that you type the same....yuk-yuk.






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Subject: "Bugeye" Starter bracket

Hmmm. $17.00. Wonder if the winner of this auction bought this Mk II 
bracket for his/her Bugeye?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=10076&item=2453024118

-- 
jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Charles Christ" <cfchrist@earthlink.net>,
   "the flashfire"
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References: <002901c3dae1$09c4e020$9cf945cf@fred>
Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:41:24 -0500

Hey, so you DO know where the caps buttons are!  LOLOLOLOL!!

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>; "the flashfire"
<psychalgia@rocketmail.com>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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> HEY!  i resemble that remark!  LOL!
>
> chuck.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Branch <gjbranch@comcast.net>
> To: the flashfire <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>; spridgets@autox.team.net
> <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: cant post
>
>
> >hey, are you related to chuck?  i notice that you type the same....yuk-yuk.






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Rick Neville wrote:

>  Included in
> the swag being handed out by the GM Performance guys
> was a Chevy bowtie lapel pin neatly packaged in a
> little bag emblazoned with "Made in China"


Just like all those NASCAR guys and their favorite American iron race 
cars. All the "collectables" are nascrap chinese junk.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:56:28 -0500 (EST)
To: psychalgia@rocketmail.com (the flashfire)
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Subject: Re: Age
  14 Jan 2004 11:40:41 -0800 (PST)

"It's all downhill after 30"

Not at "all", in accordance with my
personal life experience thus far.

It should get better in terms of "quality", assuming one continues to
grow internally
as in "self discovery" (aka, discovery of
THE self).




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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First, I was confused. Now I understand.

 From dictionary.com

cant - noun.

    1. Monotonous talk filled with platitudes.
    2. Hypocritically pious language.
    3. The special vocabulary peculiar to the members of an underworld 
group; argot.
    4. Cant See Shelta.
    5. Whining speech, such as that used by beggars.
    6. The special terminology understood among the members of a 
profession, discipline, or class but obscure to the general population; 
jargon.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/






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Jay Fishbein wrote:

> Hmmm. $17.00. Wonder if the winner of this auction bought this Mk II 
> bracket for his/her Bugeye?

Jay

I saw that last week and posted some dumb remark about it looking like a 
  bracket that holds in the fuel gauge.
I never saw that on a Bugeye. But it it on MKIIs?
Bugeyes have a metal tab with a hole for the tacho cable.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> "It's all downhill after 30"
> 
> Not at "all", in accordance with my
> personal life experience thus far.


Send me some of that bolony you are eating please.
I'll be happy to be 30 again. Hell, make that 19!
When I was 30, even 40 I could still lift 1275s in and out of Spridgets 
by hand. I can't do THAT now at 49.
I could eat more, drink more, stay up later, work harder, run faster, 
etc. Look in the mirror man, it is downhill and it's a steep hill too :)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Age
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:21:35 -0500

Uh-oh.  Capn' Bob's been drinking in front of the computer.....

Geoff Branch 
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
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To: "the flashfire" <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>
Cc: "Gary & Kathryn Bales" <kgb@frontiernet.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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> 
> It should get better in terms of "quality", assuming one continues to
> grow internally
> as in "self discovery" (aka, discovery of
> THE self).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cap'n. Bob 
>      '60 :{)






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  <4005BFFE.7000508@exit109.com>

Yep, I pulled a number of them off of Mk.II's over the years.

Also, if you look closely at the pic, the metal bracket for the tach 
cable is there too.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Frank Clarici wrote:

> I saw that last week and posted some dumb remark about it looking like a 
>  bracket that holds in the fuel gauge.
> I never saw that on a Bugeye. But it it on MKIIs?
> Bugeyes have a metal tab with a hole for the tacho cable.






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sorry. cant resist.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apostrophie

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

the flashfire wrote:

> apostrophies have no place in my life!






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:12:11 EST
Subject: Re: Age
To: spritenut@exit109.com, PilotRob@webtv.net
CC: psychalgia@rocketmail.com, kgb@frontiernet.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/14/2004 3:23:13 PM Mountain Standard Time,
spritenut@exit109.com writes:
I can't do THAT now at 49.
I could eat more, drink more, stay up later, work harder, run faster,
etc. Look in the mirror man, it is downhill and it's a steep hill too :)


--
Frank Clarici
.

Jeez Frank, you think you are on the slippery slope now...wait till next year
trips over, or you trip over it.  50 is a B24 with all the engines on
fire!...and the years are only about three months long after that.


Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:15:35 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: psychalgia@rocketmail.com (the flashfire),
   kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary
  & 	Kathryn Bales), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Age
  Jan 2004 17:20:37 -0500

LMAO....well...you asked for it! :)

You are looking strictly at the "physical"
side my friend. And in this respect, I
totally agree with you in a manly way.

What you need (and do not take this the
wrong way 'cause one doeesn't normally
go around wishing this on anybody!:) is a near death experience. This
can give
a "real appreciation" for exploration of
the "inner" (non-physical) "self". Got me
back in touch with the beautiful, constructive "kid" which "lives" at
our
very core and which we tend to forget
about, as we age. At least, it did in my
case. "Rebirth"! :)

(Blowing your mind, eh??!!:):):)

But I'll tell you something...it did wonders
for me, as it does for the fortunate most
others who've been lucky enough to have
"BTDT".....IF the timing is right. I'm told
by psychiatrists the latter is definitely
required for "growth" and/or "change" as
a result of the "experience". 

You can't "duck". You gotta remain aware
and face it head on or you MAY "miss the
show" and thus, the "experience". You
may also miss the chance to survive if
you are not the type "to be still flying
the airplane" when it impacts the ground!

It's cool. I'll tell you one thing...for an
Italian macho guy like my self used to
be, this experience can really get you
in touch with the "female" side of your
otherwise masculine self!!! (This is
actually a part of the "kid" within).

You girls on the list might know what I'm
talking about...maybe!  Maybe not!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:14:01 -0600

<<...So be nice.
>>

Willy??????????????????????

LMAO 'cause N O T !

He's a CHEEZEHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ER, MAYBE A Brat??






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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:43:21 -0500 (EST)
To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: psychalgia@rocketmail.com (the flashfire),
   kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary
  & 	Kathryn Bales), spridgets@autox.team.net
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  Jan 2004 17:21:35 -0500

"Uh, oh"!

Heh, heh...yea, right! :)

Too much caffeine. 

I know....I'll sue
Mickey D's for making it available and
getting me "hooked", thus taking unfair
advantage of my innocence in this
respect. And...there's no surgeon generals
warning on the cup, either!! Got'em!! :):)

I mean hell, others can be irresponsible
and collect money for being so!!! Why
can't I? 

I WANT MY STUFF!!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From John.Deikis at med.va.gov
To: Spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Craftsman Tool Question
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:17:36 -0600

I have a Craftsman radial arm saw that couldn't be more than 25 years old.
It needs a bearing.  Went to the Sears Service Center.  Very nice young
woman, about 19, behind the counter.  We looked into her computer monitor
and she remarked how "cool" the radial arms saw in there was-- she said it
was the first one she had ever seen.  Unfortunately, the bearing....and
everything else for that saw are NLA.  No, she didn't know where else I
might look.  Reminded me of my LAST call to VickyBrit about 5 years ago:
"Sir, exactly in what part of the car is the rear leaf spring shackle
found?"   No sale!  I'll bet a 25 year old saw in China can still be
rebuilt.  Even by an Italian.
----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:39:59 -0500
From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Craftsman Tool Question

brad,
quite a while ago i had a sears air compressor wich was manufactured by
devilbis.  when it broke sears told me the item was on back order.  3-4
months of waiting for the back order wich was destined to never come
prompted me to buy a whole new compressor.
i contacted devilbis and they did manufacture my compressor.   but!  they
explained although they were the manufacturer they were under contract to
NOT sell any parts for the sears model to the public in any way.   all sears
model units parts MUST be purchased through sears only as they had a sole
distributorship agreement.
now getting to your model of equiptment.   first off you have no place to go
to but sears to start with.  if there is any way to find out who
manufactured it then possibly you can find a parts list for the model you
have.    back in the 50's and 60's most of the sears craftsman stuff was not
sears specific but just relabeled brand name stuff.   but whose brand and
are they still in business or if not, who bought them out and are parts for
repairs still available?   possibly sears might be able to send you a copy
of the original parts list?   or do you have a sears service center near you
where you can physically go there and look at the listings they have for any
still available parts?    all just "thoughts" on directions i have gone to
try to salvage old equiptment i have here.    possibly something might lead
you to a resolve of this situation?

chuck.






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Subject: Re: cant post
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:24:17 -0600

Sometimes how it feels is not really how it is.  ;-)
.....................

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:53:29 -0800 (PST)
From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: cant post

im sending this because it feels like i can never post to the group. 
can you all see this?




=====
the flashfire
262 880 4570






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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:40:41 -0500 (EST)
To: RBHouston@aol.com
Cc: spritenut@exit109.com, psychalgia@rocketmail.com, kgb@frontiernet.net,
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Age
  EST

Well...

It ain't that bad at all if you stay skinny!! But, the passing of time
is logrythmic. The more time you spend in this reality the faster it
seems to go. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
To: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>,
   Spridget List
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>

FWIW, he's been selling a lot of interior kits,
tonneaus, etc for big Healeys and Sprites over the
past several months.  I bought a leather seat kit for
the front seats of my BJ7 from him about six months
ago at a substantial savings over the usual suspects. 
He originally sent the wrong color (black instead of
blue) but made it right without any problem and
covered the shipping costs.  I wouldn't hesitate to do
business with him again.  

Rick


--- David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> > Another NOS Abarth muffler is on ebay. (From the
> same seller as the last
> > one. Must have a crate of 'em.)
> 
> I don't know about that, but he does have a few
> other items of Spridgetly
> interest for sale including a Sprite arrow for the
> boot. Good thing I have
> already blown my Spridget budget ;-)
> David Lieb
> 1972 RWA Midget
> 2002 GTI for Trish to beat me at autocross with
> 
> *** 

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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: The SS03 panoramic photo

That's to Willy Thompson, the Sprite Spree 03 panoramic photo
can be seen here.

http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/SS03pan.jpg

-- 
Frank






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Subject: 948 mechanical fuel pump question

Ok, so having had 52 Spridgets in my life, I never worked on one with a 
mechanical fuel pump. My current Bugeye project is a bone stock 948 and 
the fuel pump works.
But.... Were the nipples part of the pump or part of the fuel pipes?
Are the f/p nipples common pipe fitting?
Whitworth? Unobtainium?
I have no nipples.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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On Wednesday 14 January 2004 08:50 pm, Mike Gigante wrote:
> Dean said:
>
> > You can only home those bores so many times....
>
> What di you mean? I've been in my home for years now.

Ooops "hone"...you know...like "Hone on the range".  And I don't mean the 
kitchen range.  Picture a cowboy sharpening his Bowie.   






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From Bill McLeod <wbmcleod at cox.net>
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To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
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Subject: Re: 948 mechanical fuel pump question
References: <4005FF7A.9000408@exit109.com>

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
;-)
Bill


Frank Clarici wrote:

>
> I have no nipples.






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To: Martin Cooper <cooper6@swbell.net>
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References: <4005FE7B.107@exit109.com> <400607CA.AB784FBB@swbell.net>

Martin Cooper wrote:

> Frank,
> 
> How can we purchase one?

Go back in time to May of 03 and place an order with the photographer.
Or maybe some one who was there wants to sell theirs?
No me.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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To: Bill McLeod <wbmcleod@cox.net>
CC: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: 948 mechanical fuel pump question
References: <4005FF7A.9000408@exit109.com> <40060B51.9010307@cox.net>

Bill McLeod wrote:

> Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
> ;-)
> Bill
> 
> 
> Frank Clarici wrote:
> 
>>
>> I have no nipples.


I guess it's better than blowing seals ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:55:46 EST
Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo
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CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

Martin can probablty still get one by contacting Crabtree Photo in 
W.Va.......assuming they were the guys who produced it. They do most of the one's I've 
seen.

Howard Collins
60' AH Bugeye
69' Austin Cooper S 






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: broad coverage
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:16:34 -0500

This group really  broad coverge for its members.. Every thing From frozen
nads to being nippless to seals benig blown,,,,

Keep up the great..... EM's



Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: The SS03 panoramic photo
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:33:20 -0600
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The artists name was Doug Chadwick, here is a website that is selling a
lotus panoramic like our sprites http://www.drivingclothes.com/LOG21Chad.htm
I cant find much other information , but I know he resides in Hillsboro Wv

I know I was able to look him up, through the yellow pages, when I was
wondering what happened to my photo, I called, sorry I don't have that info
any more...

I would think like most artists, they keep copies and would be pretty kewl
about another sale. it wasn't really too cheap, but now, the price doesn't
matter. Its like a deer mount, its crazy to pay for, but the enjoyment, is
priceless. a suggestion, if you do locate buying a copy, buy it framed.

 The entire process of the photo was worth as much as I paid for it, The
equipment used was older than my sprite, and worked better than anything new
I know about.

-----Original Message-----
From Miniac7 at aol.com [mailto:Miniac7@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:56 PM
To: spritenut@exit109.com; cooper6@swbell.net
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo


Martin can probablty still get one by contacting Crabtree Photo in
W.Va.......assuming they were the guys who produced it. They do most of the
one's I've
seen.

Howard Collins
60' AH Bugeye
69' Austin Cooper S






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 14 21:35:49 2004
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Crabtree....Chadwick....what's the difference when you're from W.Va.??? 
they're probably all related anyway!!






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From "Biff" <biffjones at erols.com>
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Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:38:24 -0500

 If I remember correctly I think the panoramic photo was taken by Douglas B.
Chadwick,  Cirkut Panoramic Photographs,  PO Box 99, Hillsboro, WV 24946,
304-653-4916,   dchadwick@inetone.net

Biff Jones
'59 Bugeye, 'Kermit'
'62 Sprite, 'Ole Gray'
'71 Midget, 'Freebie'
http://sprites2.homestead.com/






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Wm. Thompson" <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>,
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Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 01:17:16 -0500

i did not order the SS03 picture from doug but i did order the SOC03 (saab
owner's convention) panoramic photo from him!   he does a super job!

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Wm. Thompson <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:31 PM
Subject: RE: The SS03 panoramic photo


>The artists name was Doug Chadwick, here is a website that is selling a
>lotus panoramic like our sprites
http://www.drivingclothes.com/LOG21Chad.htm
>I cant find much other information , but I know he resides in Hillsboro Wv
>
>I know I was able to look him up, through the yellow pages, when I was
>wondering what happened to my photo, I called, sorry I don't have that info
>any more...
>
>I would think like most artists, they keep copies and would be pretty kewl
>about another sale. it wasn't really too cheap, but now, the price doesn't
>matter. Its like a deer mount, its crazy to pay for, but the enjoyment, is
>priceless. a suggestion, if you do locate buying a copy, buy it framed.
>
> The entire process of the photo was worth as much as I paid for it, The
>equipment used was older than my sprite, and worked better than anything
new
>I know about.






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   Frank Clarici
  <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   the flashfire <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: Age
References: <14052-4005CD97-1133@storefull-3136.bay.webtv.net>
  FILETIME=[C17E8950:01C3DB5E]

Didn't Pete Townsend of The Who confess to "being in touch with HIS feminine
side"???

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> It's cool. I'll tell you one thing...for an
> Italian macho guy like my self used to
> be, this experience can really get you
> in touch with the "female" side of your
> otherwise masculine self!!! (This is
> actually a part of the "kid" within).






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To: "Charles Christ" <cfchrist@earthlink.net>
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Subject: RE: The SS03 panoramic photo
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:47:10 -0600
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-----Original Message-----
From Charles Christ [mailto:cfchrist at earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:17 AM
To: Wm. Thompson; Spridgets
Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo


<i did not order the SS03 picture from doug but i did order the SOC03 (saab
owner's convention) panoramic photo from him!  >


well at least we know where WE rate, ;)






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:06:14 -0600

> <i did not order the SS03 picture from doug but i did order the SOC03
(saab
> owner's convention) panoramic photo from him!  >
>
>
> well at least we know where WE rate, ;)

Heck, Willy, I didn't order it either. Of course, IF they had taken the
picture at the scheduled time so that my car was in the shot, I probably
would have shelled out the money. It still annoys me that I got back from
Gettysburg in plenty of time for the scheduled shot, just to find that
somebody had decided to average things out for the Spree by having one thing
end at the time it was supposed to start instead of starting at the time it
was supposed to end like everything else ;-)
What do you mean I've got issues???
I did love the tiny little schedules that fit in the name badges (must have
been Frank's idea), too bad they had no perceptible relation to reality....
David






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:33:46 -0500

actually, the picture of john sprinzel sitting in my car with me standing
next to the car  is a highly prized posession !   that would not have
happened anywhere else!   and!  john has autographed it too!    that one
moment at the SS03 means more to me than most of the rest of the meet!  let
alone daniel and john both autographed my car joining bic healey and gerry
coker's autographs!  not saying i did not enjoy myself or the meet held
nothing else!  it was a good time and i had a great time meeting people who
i just knew as a sign line here.  LOL!  to some degree i was also the mobile
tool truck too!  ;)  carrying a full load of chemicals and minor supplies
along with the "road tools" in my van allows me to be of assistance
frequently at the track.  i know my floor jack got a work out during the
meet.

chuck
been there....broke that!  ......then had ta fix it......again.......  :)
-----Original Message-----
From Wm. Thompson <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net>
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:45 AM
Subject: RE: The SS03 panoramic photo


>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Christ [mailto:cfchrist@earthlink.net]
>Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:17 AM
>To: Wm. Thompson; Spridgets
>Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo
>
>
><i did not order the SS03 picture from doug but i did order the SOC03 (saab
>owner's convention) panoramic photo from him!  >
>
>
>well at least we know where WE rate, ;)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:24:55 -0500 (EST)
To: healeyrick@yahoo.com (Rick Neville)
Cc: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget 	List)
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
  Jan 2004 17:56:49 -0800 (PST)

Hmmm....(pondering:)

Larryrex posted a message recently about
a fellow he had bought prothane bushings
from, from to time, who offered to make
him a Moss distributor.

And here we have this guy on ebay we are talking about....wonder if this
guy
"became" what Larryrex was offered to
become? LBCarCo is a "Moss outlet" an
sells their stuff below Moss prices.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:04:54 EST
Subject: Re: 948 mechanical fuel pump question
To: wbmcleod@cox.net, spritenut@exit109.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/14/2004 8:40:36 PM Mountain Standard Time,
wbmcleod@cox.net writes:
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
;-)
Bill


Frank Clarici wrote:

>
> I have no nipples.
.
Actually I have an extra set...buy Frank can't have them.

Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>,
   Spridget List
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Don't think that's the case.  I beleive he must have
bought out a distributor somewhere as he told me his
interior kits were from various manufacturers,
including AAMCO and Automat.  You can check him out if
you want, he's somewhere down in Southwestern CT.

Rick

--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net> wrote:
> Hmmm....(pondering:)
> 
> Larryrex posted a message recently about
> a fellow he had bought prothane bushings
> from, from to time, who offered to make
> him a Moss distributor.
> 
> And here we have this guy on ebay we are talking
> about....wonder if this
> guy
> "became" what Larryrex was offered to
> become? LBCarCo is a "Moss outlet" an
> sells their stuff below Moss prices.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cap'n. Bob 
>      '60 :{)
> 
> 


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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
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References: <001001c3db6c$3537b4e0$ccf845cf@fred>
Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:15:19 -0600

Maybe for the next event we should park in a circle and get Flounder's
friend to do a shot like the one he posted last week with pan and zoom.
David Lieb
1972 RWA Midget






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From "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: <RBHouston@aol.com>, <wbmcleod@cox.net>, <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: 948 mechanical fuel pump question
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:41:55 -0600

of course, you've heard of that rare Indian tribe, numbering a half a
thousand..., tragically born without nipples...

forever known as...





The Indian Nippless 500




*sorry*

-----Original Message-----

I have no nipples.
--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Rick Neville" <healeyrick@yahoo.com>,
   "Robert E. Shlafer"
  <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "David Lieb" <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>,
   "Spridget List"
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Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:57:49 -0500

is this scarborough faire's internet sales site?    i had heard that they
were doing some ebay business.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>; Spridget List
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component


>Don't think that's the case.  I beleive he must have
>bought out a distributor somewhere as he told me his
>interior kits were from various manufacturers,
>including AAMCO and Automat.  You can check him out if
>you want, he's somewhere down in Southwestern CT.
>
>Rick
>
>--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net> wrote:
>> Hmmm....(pondering:)
>>
>> Larryrex posted a message recently about
>> a fellow he had bought prothane bushings
>> from, from to time, who offered to make
>> him a Moss distributor.
>>
>> And here we have this guy on ebay we are talking
>> about....wonder if this
>> guy
>> "became" what Larryrex was offered to
>> become? LBCarCo is a "Moss outlet" an
>> sells their stuff below Moss prices.






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:26:38 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
Cc: healeyrick@yahoo.com (Rick Neville),
   dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com (David 	Lieb),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
  15 Jan 2004 12:57:49 -0500

"He is somewhere in Southwestern
Connecticut"

Which is exactly where I am located. Now
I am really curious.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Frank,
Regarding your nipples, 948's, at least those with H1's, didn't use fuel 
hoses at the mechanical fuel pump.

The fuel line from the tank was coiled at the pump and then went 
directly into the pump. The fuel line from the carbs also went directly 
into the pump. The only hoses used were those between the carbs and the 
metal fuel line at he carbs.

Of course, if you want an alternative, I would recommend only going to a 
doctor that is board-certified.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
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Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
References: <000e01c3db91$1a80dee0$6bfa45cf@fred>

No. Simon & Garfunkel sell under the name noslocators. I've always 
wondered if 58vette is Spurts & Crapsicles selling under another user 
registration.

I've had good experiences with 58vette, so I doubt the association with 
the previously mentioned, famed CT parts vendor.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Charles Christ wrote:
> is this scarborough faire's internet sales site?    i had heard that they
> were doing some ebay business.






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From Bree Anna <breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: NO LBC-Timing Belt
To: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Listers 

If someone of "any" persuasion could help me with
questions concerning replacing a timing belt on
a 1986 plymouth...please contact me off list.

I am trying to get this car repaired "well enough"
to get it running "long enough" to get RID of it! lol

So Thanks in Advance...

Bree!

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From "PAsgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Some LBC--Cold
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:55:37 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Hi All,

Hope all you folks are surviving the cold weather blast the northeast US is
getting, and that all your loved ones are not getting frost bite and your
homes are warm and the pipes not frozen. It swept through last week in
Portland, but not with such low temps.  Make sure your LBC's are snug and have
enough anti-freeze so they survive, too.

Best, Paul A






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Subject: Re: Some LBC--Cold
References: <009f01c3dba9$ee0707e0$0300a8c0@PaulAsgeirsson>

We are surviving okay. But our dog Truman has been stuck to the patio 
since Tuesday

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

PAsgeirsson wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Hope all you folks are surviving the cold weather blast the northeast US 






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan 15 16:13:24 2004
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From "Matt Endicott" <endicar at comcast.net>
To: "MG-T" <mg-t@autox.team.net>, "Spridget List"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   "The MG List" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: For Sale: 58 MG ZB Magnette
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:06:36 -0600

58 MG ZB Magnette

This is not my car and I have no interest in it, financially or otherwise.
I saw the car a couple months ago while traveling and am only forwarding the
info for anyone who may be looking for a project or a parts car.  In the 5
minutes I spent looking at it I saw rust in floor pans, rockers and a couple
spots on the firewall under the bonnet, otherwise not too bad, but
definately needs a full restoration.  All the panels looked straight, the
radiator shell looked good and the glass was fine.  The interior appears to
be there, but most has been removed and is now piled up inside the car.
There is a pallet with an extra 1500 engine, gearbox and rear end.  Tons of
extra parts are piled up inside the car and trunk.  It's been in inside
storage in an old timers barn / auto repair shop for about 20 years or so.
Story goes the owners son planned on restoring it, but never did.  Was told
the extra parts came from a 2nd magnette that was parted out years ago and I
think they may have two titles.  Sorry I didn't have a camera when I was
there and I won't be going back anytime soon if ever.  Owner knows it will
take a pile of money to restore and is open to offers.  He said he was
thinking around $1500, but is very negotiable.  If it's a pile of crap and
you buy it, DON'T blame me, I'm just the messenger.

Owner: Randy Harvey
Phone: (361) 364-2943
Odem, Texas (Corpus Christi)






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net>
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Age
References: <14052-4005CD97-1133@storefull-3136.bay.webtv.net>
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Brad Fornal wrote:

> Didn't Pete Townsend of The Who confess to "being in touch with HIS feminine
> side"???

I never found my feminine side, in fact, if I do ANYTHING in the 
kitchen, I make a real mess. Like just rinsing a dish, why does the 
water seem to skate across the dish and down the cabinet doors or on me?
As for cooking, I can make sandwiches out of anything precooked.
I can't heat soup but I have boiled water and spilled it on me.
Well I did own a pink shirt once (tailored) and I did think it looked 
good with black dress pants. But I didn't buy if for myself, it was a gift.

And as for a near death expierience, it's friggin 1 degree out, my feet 
are wet from walking in the snow back and forth to the truck all day.
It's too cold to work on any Sprites even if the garage has heat.
I'm cold, wet, tired, hungry, and out of my favorite booze.
That is near death enough for me.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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CC: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
References: <000e01c3db91$1a80dee0$6bfa45cf@fred>
  <4006DE58.2030901@ix.netcom.com>

Jay Fishbein wrote:

> No. Simon & Garfunkel sell under the name noslocators. I've always 
> wondered if 58vette is Spurts & Crapsicles selling under another user 
> registration.


Spurts and crapsicles. I like that!
And Scareyborough Far-east


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Block Sanding... and Filling?

I took a long block sander to the left fender of my '77 Midget this afternoon.  What I thought was a straight panel turned out to have slightly high and slightly low places in it.  Yeah, I can tap down the high spots, but what goop should I use to fill in the low spots?  

I'm a newbie at this, but have seen the filler used on American Chopper and other great Discovery Channel shows.  Feel free to talk down to me, unless you know less than I do about this.  ;-)

 - Kendel






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Some LBC--Cold
To: PAsgeirsson <PAsgeirsson@att.net>,
   Spridget List
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Paul,

Bet you wish you were back in the Newburyport area
now.  -7F on the bank time/temp clock today.  It was
so cold in my wife's Taurus this morning, I could
barely move the rotary knob to turn on the headlights.

Brrrrrrr,
Rick

--- PAsgeirsson <PAsgeirsson@att.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Hope all you folks are surviving the cold weather
> blast the northeast US is
> getting, and that all your loved ones are not
> getting frost bite and your
> homes are warm and the pipes not frozen. It swept
> through last week in
> Portland, but not with such low temps.  Make sure
> your LBC's are snug and have
> enough anti-freeze so they survive, too.
> 
> Best, Paul A
> 
> 

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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan 15 18:39:06 2004
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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: Block Sanding... and Filling?
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Kendel McCarley wrote:

>  what goop should I use to fill in the low spots?  

Bondo 101 here.

I use up to 4 types of goop.

Large holes, welded up areas, and major dents.....
Start with "gorilla hair" which is anybrand fiberglass embedded 
polyester resin filler.

Small dents, holes around 1/8" use regular "bondo" brand filler.
Cheap, available anywhere.

Ripples in bare metal, grinder marks, sanded out rust pock marks.
Evercoat makes a bare metal glaze. This stuff works great as a finish 
body filler too because it sands real easy.

Spot putty. For those hair line scratches and minor imperfections you 
see after the car is primed.

Never mix the resin and hardener "hot" because you want it to kick 
faster, it will and it will crack easier after paint.

Sand the stuff as soon as you can (couple hours) as long as it doesn't 
ball up in the sandpaper. If you wait a day or more, it gets really hard 
to sand.

Gorilla hair should be sanded with 36 grit
Bondo 80 or 120 grit
Evercoat 150-320 grit
Primer and spot putty 320-400 grit.

Always seal any body putty. Most is made with talc (powder) and it will 
absorb moisture just like it does on your feet or a baby's bottom.
Spray can primer is NOT a sealer, you can seal it with a few coats of 
regular spray paint and them prime over the paint.
Most body supply shops will direct you to a primer/sealer all in one.
Do not use this as your first primer, it does not sand well.
Use this after all the bodywork is as good as you want it and the primer 
is on.


Ok, that's how I do it but I am not an autobody man. However, I am 
getting better at it.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "LBC" "Spridgets" <@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Original Sprite and Midget by Terry Horler 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6762&item=2454645939


 on sale for $21.00 + $5.00 S/H

  (Paper Back) ohwell

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  <PAsgeirsson@att.net>,
   Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Some LBC--Cold
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Cold, yeah, we know cold, it was barely up to the 70's today...............
brrrrr.

Brad

Rick Neville wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Bet you wish you were back in the Newburyport area
> now.  -7F on the bank time/temp clock today.  It was
> so cold in my wife's Taurus this morning, I could
> barely move the rotary knob to turn on the headlights.
>
> Brrrrrrr,
> Rick






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To: "Kendel McCarley" <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Block Sanding... and Filling?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 21:10:34 -0500

Hi Kendal.
Filling low spots depends on a few things. Are you sanding a primed fender
or a painted one?
Generally speaking if it's paint, and you do not plan on stripping it,  I
would sand with 180 grit first to get good tooth for the primer. Any dents
or dings filled with a good filler like Evercoat then blocked with 180
again. A 2 inch dent 1/8 inch deep will require filling out at least an inch
from the dents edge. Mix in small batches on a real mixing board and use a
wide spreader. One pass over the dent, let it cure, fill again if still low.
Once it starts to harden stop! Buy a quart of acetone and clean your tools
and mixing board between batches to prevent dried filler from ruining your
work. When dents are filled, prime with epoxy if wanted, then a good
urethane surfacer, several coats, block with 320, fog a little spray can
black primer on it and the low spots will show up when sanded. Any small
waves at this point should be able to be taken out with just primer, if not
use a glazing putty which is smooth like toothpaste for slight surface
defects. For a real flat surface I will tint the next couple of coats of
primer with the car color then block again with 600, any waves will show up
easily. More blocking and priming with 600 will leave an extremely flat
surface ready for paint.

This is a very brief description of prepping for paint. You want to use good
urethane products all catalyzed filler, not lacquer. You will need a
supplied air respirator however as isocyanates are bad. There are some iso
free primers on the market which might be worth a try.

Good luck,
John

\----- Original Message ----- 
From "Kendel McCarley" <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: Block Sanding... and Filling?


> I took a long block sander to the left fender of my '77 Midget this
afternoon.  What I thought was a straight panel turned out to have slightly
high and slightly low places in it.  Yeah, I can tap down the high spots,
but what goop should I use to fill in the low spots?






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan 15 19:26:56 2004
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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   "Kendel McCarley"
  <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Block Sanding... and Filling?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 21:25:21 -0500

that kinda wraps it up  nicely. (as opposed to warps it up!  ROFLMAO!)
but!  "GOOP" was a brand name for a hand cleaner just like "mione" or "gojo"
of days gone by.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
To: Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Block Sanding... and Filling?


>Kendel McCarley wrote:
>
>>  what goop should I use to fill in the low spots?
>
>Bondo 101 here.
>
>I use up to 4 types of goop.






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 21:45:39 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Age
  Jan 2004 18:36:55 -0500

"That is near enough death for me"

Ahhh...no it's not. Just wait 'til tomorrow! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Was: Block Sanding...Now: Hand cleaners
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 21:54:26 -0500

"Goop" hand cleaner hasn't gone by - it's still available!  My favorite
though is a product called "Scrubs - In A Bucket", made by Cully.  They are
like adult sized baby wipes.  They have a cleaner and pumice in them and boy
do they work great.  Much better IMHO than Goop, GoJo, or any of the other
hand cleaners out there.  The only bad thing is they seem to be available
only at wholesale suppliers like Grainger or electrical supply houses.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>; "Kendel McCarley"
<kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Block Sanding... and Filling?


> that kinda wraps it up  nicely. (as opposed to warps it up!  ROFLMAO!)
> but!  "GOOP" was a brand name for a hand cleaner just like "mione" or
"gojo"
> of days gone by.
>
> chuck.



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From Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
To: "John D'Agostino" <john.dagostino@comcast.net>,
   Kendel McCarley
  <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Block Sanding... and Filling?
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net

Well, I actually have three cars to paint; a 70 MGB GT, this 77 Midget, and a 94 Grand Cherokee (where I tangled with a drunk college kid on the way home last Fall and his insurance company declared my vehicle a total).  In for a penny, in for a pound I guess.

So, I've been working out how to build my paint booth using Harbor Freight tarps stretched over a framed in structure.  However, I haven't been able to find a reasonably priced forced air respirator.  Any hints on where to locate one?

Thanks for the responses.


-----Original Message-----
From John D'Agostino <john.dagostino at comcast.net>
Sent: Jan 15, 2004 7:10 PM
To: Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Block Sanding... and Filling?

Hi Kendal.
Filling low spots depends on a few things. Are you sanding a primed fender
or a painted one?
Generally speaking if it's paint, and you do not plan on stripping it,  I
would sand with 180 grit first to get good tooth for the primer. Any dents
or dings filled with a good filler like Evercoat then blocked with 180
again. A 2 inch dent 1/8 inch deep will require filling out at least an inch
from the dents edge. Mix in small batches on a real mixing board and use a
wide spreader. One pass over the dent, let it cure, fill again if still low.
Once it starts to harden stop! Buy a quart of acetone and clean your tools
and mixing board between batches to prevent dried filler from ruining your
work. When dents are filled, prime with epoxy if wanted, then a good
urethane surfacer, several coats, block with 320, fog a little spray can
black primer on it and the low spots will show up when sanded. Any small
waves at this point should be able to be taken out with just primer, if not
use a glazing putty which is smooth like toothpaste for slight surface
defects. For a real flat surface I will tint the next couple of coats of
primer with the car color then block again with 600, any waves will show up
easily. More blocking and priming with 600 will leave an extremely flat
surface ready for paint.

This is a very brief description of prepping for paint. You want to use good
urethane products all catalyzed filler, not lacquer. You will need a
supplied air respirator however as isocyanates are bad. There are some iso
free primers on the market which might be worth a try.

Good luck,
John






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Rick Fisk" <refisk@chartermi.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Block Sanding...Now: Hand cleaners
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:15:41 -0500

i had some stuff for my wall dispenser wich was a pumice and had an
antibiotic in it.   great for small shop injuries .  it was carried by
snap-on but i have not seen it for quite a while and i'm due for a new tub
of cleaner on the dispenser.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:54 PM
Subject: Was: Block Sanding...Now: Hand cleaners


>"Goop" hand cleaner hasn't gone by - it's still available!  My favorite
>though is a product called "Scrubs - In A Bucket", made by Cully.  They are
>like adult sized baby wipes.  They have a cleaner and pumice in them and
boy
>do they work great.  Much better IMHO than Goop, GoJo, or any of the other
>hand cleaners out there.  The only bad thing is they seem to be available
>only at wholesale suppliers like Grainger or electrical supply houses.






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Original Sprite and Midget by Terry Horler 
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Slightly related, I checked overstock.com for Horler,
no joy, but you can support your local lister for $18:

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PROFRAME&PROD_ID=204902

I had 3 listers thank me for pointing them to Vizard
for $22 at overstock.com, then several complaints they
were sold out - I guess we cleaned out the inventory!

=====
Ron Soave

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- Aunt Tessie

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From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Some LBC--Cold 

  My sister said it was 82 degrees in Honduras today, but it's stopped raining. :-)
  Ed in NC






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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'larryrex'" <larryrex@awesomenet.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Original Sprite and Midget by Terry Horler 
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:54:04 -0800

And for a dollar less you can buy it from www.bn.com, but let's bid it
up on e-bay.  They also have the Bentley repro, but the one I got was a
blue BL copy.  Look for it soon on e-bay.
		Crash

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6762&i
tem=2454645939


 on sale for $21.00 + $5.00 S/H

  (Paper Back) ohwell






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From "Mark J. Bradakis" <mjb at autox.team.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: The SS03 panoramic photo

As a reminder, if you have something such as pictures you'd
like to share there is space for them on http://www.team.net/the-local

One does need to register to upload stuff, make use of messaging and the
chat rooms, but anyone can view the image and file galleries.  I've not
yet figured out how to best deal with the calendar functions so that event
information can be shared, I'll look into it RealSoonNow.

mjb.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 16 06:38:33 2004
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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:37:31 EST
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Sebring Sprite conversion
To: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

Alan,

That appears to be a bugeye rear.  As far as I know, and others will 
undobtedly chime in here, the only way to achieve that on your 73 is to convert to a 
bugeye tub, or use a rear clip from one.  

The top in those pics look a lot like an original bugeye hard top.  These are 
sometimes available on ebay, or sometimes a lister runs across one.

The nose is available in the US.  Frank Clarici of the 
spridgets@autox.team,net list has one, although his does not have the grill that shows on your 
picture.

Good luck with your conversion.  I too have a 73 and I was going to make it a 
bugeye in disguise, to the extent I bought a rear clip and a bonnet.  But 
then, last November I took the plunge and bought a whole bugeye.  So the 73 will 
remain somewhat stock, and when finished, the bugeye get some attention.  
Hopefully I will live that long.

Welcome to the list.  Got any guns?

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 16 06:49:55 2004
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From Jay Fishbein <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
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To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
References: <000e01c3db91$1a80dee0$6bfa45cf@fred>       
  <4006DE58.2030901@ix.netcom.com>        <40072CBD.80407@exit109.com>
  <43999.148.78.243.123.1074231455.squirrel@samson.email.starband.net>

John Peters is the owner of Sports & Classics, unless he's recently sold 
it.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

rbc43@starband.net wrote:
>>vette12748 is John Peters,933 Stillwater, Stamford,CT. I just bought a
> 
> Bugeye and TR8 pen and ink drawing from him. Seems like a nice guy.
> Roger Cotting
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jay Fishbein wrote:
> 
>>>No. Simon & Garfunkel sell under the name noslocators. I've always
>>>wondered if 58vette is Spurts & Crapsicles selling under another user
>>>registration.
>>
>>
>>Spurts and crapsicles. I like that!
>>And Scareyborough Far-east






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From "Deikis, John" <John.Deikis at med.va.gov>
To: "'spridgets@autox.team.net'" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Cc: "'kmmccarley@earthlink.net'" <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:08:21 -0600

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:34:25 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
Subject: Block Sanding... and Filling?
//////////////////////////////
 
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 21:10:34 -0500
From "John D'Agostino" <john.dagostino at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Block Sanding... and Filling?

Hi Kendal.
Filling low spots depends on a few things. .................
///////////////////////////////
This is a very brief description of prepping for paint. You want to use good
urethane products all catalyzed filler, not lacquer. You will need a
supplied air respirator however as isocyanates are bad. There are some iso
free primers on the market which might be worth a try.

Good luck,
John
//////////////////////////////


kendel:
John's description is a terrific summary of how to do it professionally.
But, my guess is if you are asking this question, you will not have access
to a positive pressure respirator and,  hopefully, you will be frightened to
death by the implication that isocyanates will kill you.

Don't despair.  Go to an autobody supply store, tell them what you want to
do, and buy the smallest amounts you need.  As a general rule, you go from
"rough stuff to fine stuff" with fillers, just like with sandpaper.  The
roughest fillers, if you are unfortunate enough to have to use one, have
metal or fiberglass "hair" in them (hence the term gorilla hair).  Try
bringing the dent "up" enough that you don't need this. Beyond that, you
have the Bondo-type stuff (Evercoat is only one of several quality brands)
which is what you'll probably use, and a top layer of really smooth
"flowable" putty (3-M makes a nice one that comes in a big pastic tube). The
process is a lot like spackling a wall or "taping" drywall.  There are a
couple of good websites out there with detailed "instructions for the dummy"
type pages out there (do a Google saearch).  But the supply store may be
your best resource.  
Good luck,
JohnD






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From "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano at mindspring.com>
To: "Jay Fishbein" <type79@ix.netcom.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:40:03 -0600

I met John Peters on a few occasions.  The first time was to pick up an
interior kit for a fellow lister who was having a great deal of trouble
getting him to ship the kit.  No returned emails, no returned phone calls,
etc...  Since I was working in Greenwich, I offered to call the guy, and
pick up the panels,.  When I called, he called me back, met with me off I95,
and gave me the panels.  No issues.

A year later, I stopped in Sports and Classics b/c I was driving by.  We
started talking about ignitions b/c that was when I was shopping for a new
one.  He made the association first, that I was the guy who picked up the
interior panels.  He actually gave me a good price for one b/c of my efforts
to help the earlier deal go through.

He seemed like a pretty nice guy.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jay Fishbein
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 7:47 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component


John Peters is the owner of Sports & Classics, unless he's recently sold
it.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

rbc43@starband.net wrote:
>>vette12748 is John Peters,933 Stillwater, Stamford,CT. I just bought a
>
> Bugeye and TR8 pen and ink drawing from him. Seems like a nice guy.
> Roger Cotting
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jay Fishbein wrote:
>
>>>No. Simon & Garfunkel sell under the name noslocators. I've always
>>>wondered if 58vette is Spurts & Crapsicles selling under another user
>>>registration.
>>
>>
>>Spurts and crapsicles. I like that!
>>And Scareyborough Far-east






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From Captain Rapture <yup1275 at earthlink.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Interchangability of windshield assemblies
  x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"

Thats a lotta letters for four words.
Will a 78 fit anything back to 68?
B&N don't ship Horler til nex tweak.

David McCartney






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References: <40082F8D.16C93F28@earthlink.net>

Dear Mr. Rapture,

A windshield from a 78 will anything back to 68 as long as it is a 
another Midget. I believe they are also interchangeable with Sprites too.

I have a picture of an Innocenti Spider that someone thought a MGB 
windshield would fit. Almost as scary as Linda Blair.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Captain Rapture wrote:

> Thats a lotta letters for four words.
> Will a 78 fit anything back to 68?
> B&N don't ship Horler til nex tweak.
> 
> David McCartney






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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:11:42 -0800 (PST)
From Larry Pitts <FUZZY95687 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Upholstery screw ( could be LBC related)
To: spridgets@autox.team.net, bugeye@yahoogroups.com,
   midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com

Listers

I'm looking for a source of stainless pan head
upholstery screws. I guess pan head would be the term
as the screw I'm looking for is a pan head type sheet
metal screw with the "finishing" washer attached to
the screw. ( make sense?) 
Any suggestions/ (I've already tried a local marine
shop).

Larry Pitts
60 Bugeye
76 MGB (with new front bushings and tie rod ends-
interesting project-nice ride)  






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To: "Larry Pitts" <FUZZY95687@yahoo.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   <bugeye@yahoogroups.com>, <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: Upholstery screw ( could be LBC related)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:39:11 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Hi Larry,

I've gotten these from Home Depot in the past, but they only have the self
tapping type.  They're called "Phillips Round Washer".

>From an auto upholstery shop, try asking for "Phillips Oval Head Trim
Screws".

Au-ve-co also has them in their line of products.  "Phillips Oval Head
'Sems' Countersunk washer Tapping Screws" in Chrome, try their #3537 for #6
X 5/8" or 2771 for #8 X 5/8".  These are not the self tapping, but cut the
threads in a hole already drilled.  Try an Auto upholstery shop who handles
Au-ve-co products.  They can get them

There are others, but this already might be more than you want!!

Later, Paul A


----- Original Message ----- 
From "Larry Pitts" <FUZZY95687 at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>; <bugeye@yahoogroups.com>;
<midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: Upholstery screw ( could be LBC related)


> Listers
>
> I'm looking for a source of stainless pan head
> upholstery screws. I guess pan head would be the term
> as the screw I'm looking for is a pan head type sheet
> metal screw with the "finishing" washer attached to
> the screw. ( make sense?)
> Any suggestions/ (I've already tried a local marine
> shop).
>
> Larry Pitts
> 60 Bugeye
> 76 MGB (with new front bushings and tie rod ends-
> interesting project-nice ride)






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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:42:03 -0800
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
From gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
Subject: MG MIDGET FOR SALE (VW TOO)
Cc: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com

Two more cars for sale...
http://www.gerardsgarage.com/FS_Garage.htm

direct links...

http://www.gerardsgarage.com/GarageContent/forsale/Midget/68midget_for_sale.htm

http://www.gerardsgarage.com/GarageContent/forsale/VW_conv/73vw_for_sale.htm

Gerard
-- 
Gerard Chateauvieux
Royal Motor Sales
Audi - VW - Mazda - Volvo
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Check out my new and used inventory at:
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:48:48 -0800
To: Larry Pitts <FUZZY95687@yahoo.com>
From gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
Subject: Re: Upholstery screw ( could be LBC related)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net, bugeye@yahoogroups.com,
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Larry,

I've found these at Home Depot before.

Gerard

At 1:11 PM -0800 1/16/04, Larry Pitts wrote:
>Listers
>
>I'm looking for a source of stainless pan head
>upholstery screws. I guess pan head would be the term
>as the screw I'm looking for is a pan head type sheet
>metal screw with the "finishing" washer attached to
>the screw. ( make sense?)
>Any suggestions/ (I've already tried a local marine
>shop).
>
>Larry Pitts
>60 Bugeye
>76 MGB (with new front bushings and tie rod ends-
>interesting project-nice ride) 
>
>


-- 
Gerard Chateauvieux
Royal Motor Sales
Audi - VW - Mazda - Volvo
Direct line 415-241-8137
Check out my new and used inventory at:
http://www.royalmotorsales.com/en_US/






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:23:00 -0500 (EST)
To: mgraziano@mindspring.com (Michael Graziano)
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com (Jay Fishbein), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Ultra Rare NOS Sprite Component
  Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:40:03 -0600

Heh, heh....

I have known and dealt with John over
a period of nearly 30 years, "on" and
"off". The 'off' times occurred because
John could be real tough to deal with
back when. 

John Peters has BECOME a nice guy....
he was anything BUT many years ago,
back when he was married to his first
wife (whom I never met).

Then John got divorced and met his
present wife, an ex-AAirlines flight
attendant. Presto-mundo...."new"
John!

Boy...you want to talk about how important your choice of a personal
mate
is to your own personal happiness?

Well..John's case is definitley a case in
point...literally, "night and day", "black 
and white"! :):)

Not that he's become a "pushover"...
'cause he's not. But he has mellowed and
become the nice guy he is today...much
more pleasant demeanor and a helluva
lot easier to deal with in a "reasonable"
way.

His wife works right along side him in the
business on a day by day basis (both kids
are grown and finishing college). She is
bright, intelligent, knowledgeable and 
hard working....an absolute sweetheart
with a terrific sense of fun and humor.

I wish I were this lucky...she is an absolute doll of a person and
certainly
has had a salutory affect on her
husband. She keeps a cat in the store.
He sleeps on John's desk. Either by or
"on" his computer. 

John "has no use for the GD cat".....
and treats him with great affection!! :):) 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Upholstery screw ( could be LBC related)
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

--- Larry Pitts <FUZZY95687@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Listers
> 
> I'm looking for a source of stainless pan head
> upholstery screws. 

Not sure if they're stainless, but have found suitable
facsimiles @ Pep Boys etc. in the "HELP!" bits and
pieces overpriced packaged stuff section.

=====
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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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   midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Upholstery screw ( could be LBC related)
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Larry Pitts wrote:
> Listers
> 
> I'm looking for a source of stainless pan head
> upholstery screws. I guess pan head would be the term


Larry

Oval head is the term. #6 with a #6 finish washer.
These are the original type used.

Now for the rest of you who want a decent one step panel screw,
stop by any drywall supply and pick up some "grabber" brand self 
drillers with the washer already in place. 5/8" is the shortest.
Available in black (for black interiors) zinc plated, and stainless.
The black ones disappear in black and dark blue vinyl.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
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From Mike MacLean <macleans at earthlink.net>
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To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Clutch Question

Ever since I finished the restoration on the Bugeye, the clutch has been 
about the same.  You have to push it all the way in to completely 
disengage the trans and it would "catch" somewhere near the end of the 
release movement of the clutch pedal.  Recently (6000 Miles since new) 
it has gotten worse.  It "catches" at almost the top of the movement 
only.  I may be only sensitive to this because I also drive a Miata 
every day too, but it seems to be so.  Any ideas what is wrong?  Just 
curious.  Later this year I am converting to a Datsun 5/speed, but would 
not like to transfer this problem to the new transmission and clutch.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 16 19:17:25 2004
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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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Subject: Re: Clutch Question
References: <40088E72.8010605@earthlink.net>

Mike MacLean wrote:

> Ever since I finished the restoration on the Bugeye, the clutch has been 
> about the same.  You have to push it all the way in to completely 
> disengage the trans 

Mike

Assuming the hydraulics are fine and bled, check the slave pushrod.
Different (brand) clutch components over the years are making the 
"stock" pushrod a custom piece.
Try this down and dirty trick.....
Find a thin 5/16 nyloc nut, pop out the pushrod on the slave, stick the 
nut inside the slave at the end of the rod. Now see if the clutch is any 
different.
If not, it's a hydraulic problem, if it is better, now you have to make 
sure the added length of the rod isn't over throwing the clutch.
I make most of my clutch pins from junk in the garage.
Take a long 3/8 bolt (old shock bolts work great) cut the head off, heat 
it cherry red, beat a flat end on one side and drill a 5/16" hole in it 
for the pin. grind down the other end until it is the correct length.
If your existing rod is say 2 11/16" long, start with a 3" rod and look 
inside the inspection hole to make sure the t/o bearing is not riding 
the p/plate. You should have about an 1/8" space between them.
If you feel creative, you can make an adjustable pushrod out of a union 
but and some all thread.
I have never felt creative enough to do this, I just hammer out what I 
need when i need it.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at hotmail.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Joke, No LBC
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:34:19 -0800
  FILETIME=[CACE88F0:01C3DCAA]

In pharmacology, all drugs have two names, a trade name and a generic name.

For example, the trade name of Tylenol has a generic name of acetaminophen.  
Aleve is also call naproxen.  Amoxil is called amoxicillin and Advil is also 
called ibuprofen.

The FDA has been looking for a generic name for Viagra.  After careful 
consideration by a team of government experts, it recently announced that it 
has settled on the generic name of mycoxafloppin.  Also considered were 
mycoxafailin, my dixadrupin, mydixarizin, mydixadud, dixafix and of course, 
ibepokin.

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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 16 21:29:57 2004
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From NewNGsInfo at cs.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:28:53 EST
Subject: Toilet Cleaning... Cat assisted
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

HOW TO THOROUGHLY CLEAN THE TOILET:

1. Add the required amount of shampoo to the toilet water, and put both the 
lid and the seat up.

2. Pick up the cat and soothe him while you carry him toward the bathroom.

3. In one smooth movement, put the cat in the toilet and close both lids. 
(You may need to stand on the lid.) The cat will self-agitate and make ample 
suds. (Never mind the noises that come from the toilet, the cat is actually 
enjoying this.)

4. Flush the toilet three or four times. (This provides a "power-wash" and 
"rinse.")

5. Have someone open the door to the outside (be sure that there are no 
people between the toilet and the outside door.)

6. Stand behind the toilet as far as you can, and quickly lift both lids.

7. The cat will rocket out of the toilet, and run outside where he will dry 
himself off. Both the commode and the cat will now be sparkling clean!

Sincerely,

The Dawg






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "WFO Herb" <froggi60@hotmail.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Joke, No LBC
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Hello WFO,

       and of course you've heard of the version of VIAGRA for women?

       its called NIAGRA




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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From Mike MacLean <macleans at earthlink.net>
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To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Clutch Question
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Frank,
    I remember bleeding the clutch part of the system was a bitch.  I 
used a MityVac for this and I think I got the air out of the system.  
All other componenets of the sytem are only 2 years old, so probably not 
a problem.  I ordered the stock 948/smoothcase pushrod form the usual 
suspects at the time, replacing the original rod.  I don't remember 
comparing lengths, but it is susposed to be the right length for this 
slave cylinder.  I am going to do an oil change tomorrow morning and 
will try the 5/16 nyloc nut trick.  By nyloc nut, you mean the kind of 
nut that has the nylon insert for locking I'm guessing.  Don't they make 
different length pushrods for different transmissions/years of cars?  In 
any case I will report back to the list.
Mike


Frank Clarici wrote:

> Mike MacLean wrote:
>
>> Ever since I finished the restoration on the Bugeye, the clutch has 
>> been about the same.  You have to push it all the way in to 
>> completely disengage the trans 
>
>
> Mike
>
> Assuming the hydraulics are fine and bled, check the slave pushrod.
> Different (brand) clutch components over the years are making the 
> "stock" pushrod a custom piece.
> Try this down and dirty trick.....
> Find a thin 5/16 nyloc nut, pop out the pushrod on the slave, stick 
> the nut inside the slave at the end of the rod. Now see if the clutch 
> is any different.
> If not, it's a hydraulic problem, if it is better, now you have to 
> make sure the added length of the rod isn't over throwing the clutch.
> I make most of my clutch pins from junk in the garage.
> Take a long 3/8 bolt (old shock bolts work great) cut the head off, 
> heat it cherry red, beat a flat end on one side and drill a 5/16" hole 
> in it for the pin. grind down the other end until it is the correct 
> length.
> If your existing rod is say 2 11/16" long, start with a 3" rod and 
> look inside the inspection hole to make sure the t/o bearing is not 
> riding the p/plate. You should have about an 1/8" space between them.
> If you feel creative, you can make an adjustable pushrod out of a 
> union but and some all thread.
> I have never felt creative enough to do this, I just hammer out what I 
> need when i need it.






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From "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller at kencomp.net>
To: "Mike MacLean" <macleans@earthlink.net>,
   "Frank Clarici"
  <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Clutch Question
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 10:03:03 -0000

Mike,
Frank is right about trying a nut with the pushroad, but this will only
compensate for wear in the clutch plate, activating pivot points or if the
clutch release fork is bent (which is fairly common). The effect of any of
these is that the slave cylinder piston moves down the bore towards the open
end of the cylinder, so there is less effective travel when you operate the
pedal. In the worst cases the slave piston reaches the circlip at the end of
the bore before the clutch has fully disengaged.  Just be careful about
lengthening the pushrod too much which can result in the clutch not being
allowed to fully engage, and overthrow of the release bearing, with clutch
damage.

None of the above should be confused with master cylinder or hydraulic
problems.  Assuming no air in the system, then the distance that the slave
piston moves through depends solely on the amount of fluid pumped by the
master cylinder, and the relative diameters of master and slave cylinder.
Far and away the commonest fault is air in the system, and there are a
variety of well-tried "tricks" to effectively bleed the clutch system, none
being 100% easy!
Guy


----- Original Message ----- 
From "Mike MacLean" <macleans at earthlink.net>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>; "spridgets"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Clutch Question


> Frank,
>     I remember bleeding the clutch part of the system was a bitch.  I
> used a MityVac for this and I think I got the air out of the system.
> All other componenets of the sytem are only 2 years old, so probably not
> a problem.  I ordered the stock 948/smoothcase pushrod form the usual
> suspects at the time, replacing the original rod.  I don't remember
> comparing lengths, but it is susposed to be the right length for this
> slave cylinder.  I am going to do an oil change tomorrow morning and
> will try the 5/16 nyloc nut trick.  By nyloc nut, you mean the kind of
> nut that has the nylon insert for locking I'm guessing.  Don't they make
> different length pushrods for different transmissions/years of cars?  In
> any case I will report back to the list.
> Mike
>
>
> Frank Clarici wrote:
>
> > Mike MacLean wrote:
> >
> >> Ever since I finished the restoration on the Bugeye, the clutch has
> >> been about the same.  You have to push it all the way in to
> >> completely disengage the trans
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Assuming the hydraulics are fine and bled, check the slave pushrod.
> > Different (brand) clutch components over the years are making the
> > "stock" pushrod a custom piece.
> > Try this down and dirty trick.....
> > Find a thin 5/16 nyloc nut, pop out the pushrod on the slave, stick
> > the nut inside the slave at the end of the rod. Now see if the clutch
> > is any different.
> > If not, it's a hydraulic problem, if it is better, now you have to
> > make sure the added length of the rod isn't over throwing the clutch.
> > I make most of my clutch pins from junk in the garage.
> > Take a long 3/8 bolt (old shock bolts work great) cut the head off,
> > heat it cherry red, beat a flat end on one side and drill a 5/16" hole
> > in it for the pin. grind down the other end until it is the correct
> > length.
> > If your existing rod is say 2 11/16" long, start with a 3" rod and
> > look inside the inspection hole to make sure the t/o bearing is not
> > riding the p/plate. You should have about an 1/8" space between them.
> > If you feel creative, you can make an adjustable pushrod out of a
> > union but and some all thread.
> > I have never felt creative enough to do this, I just hammer out what I
> > need when i need it.






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From "spridget" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
To: "Kendel McCarley" <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>,
   "John D'Agostino"
  <john.dagostino@comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Block Sanding... and Filling?
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 08:24:25 -0500

Kendal, when building your booth don't overlook the importance of lighting.
You'll need plenty of light to see your wet edge while painting.  Good
ventilation will also help both you from breathing in bad things and make it
easier to see .  Good luck!

Dan
>
> So, I've been working out how to build my paint booth using Harbor Freight
tarps stretched over a framed in structure.  However, I haven't been able to
find a reasonably priced forced air respirator.  Any hints on where to
locate one?
>
> Thanks for the responses.






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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: MIke's Visit from OZ
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 07:28:31 -0600

Mike Gigante was here in Minneapolis last night. We went to a local brewpub
and BS'ed a few hours about cars and whatnot. He gave me a hard time because
the Midget is taking way too long. Now he's off to go curling in Wisconsin.

For the first time I can remember somebody was worried about going out east
because it was colder there than here.

Phil Vanner
Mini-appolis






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 09:02:11 -0500 (EST)
To: phil@outtech.com (Phil Vanner)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
  2004 07:28:31 -0600

What??!

It's 18F right now, Phil...should soar to
32 today!! I'm hittin' the beach!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Mike

The reason for the nyloc nut is because it has a rounded end to fit the 
cupped slave piston.
You might also want to "mess" with the adjustments on the master 
cylinder push rods assuming you have the stock Bugeye master.
If you accidently swapped the brake and clutch rods on a rebuild, you 
may have to adjust accordingly.
Loosen the lock nut and extend the pushrod a 1/2 turn at a time and see 
if it helps. Once again, too much is not a good thing.
I have adjusted my brake pedal to the point of brakes on without 
touching the pedal ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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  <phil@outtech.com>,
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  FILETIME=[6D70CD70:01C3DD05]

It is nasty here as well. It rained all night, so it is soggy wet and overcast.
And only 60 at 8:30 am.  I hope it warms up, or I will have to spend most of the
day in the hot tub with a cold beer to keep warm!!!
See, even Texas has cold weather............

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> What??!
>
> It's 18F right now, Phil...should soar to
> 32 today!! I'm hittin' the beach!! :)
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
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Phil Vanner wrote:

>  Now he's off to go curling in Wisconsin.

BTDT myself. Great sport if you like getting your rocks off.
Or are they stones? I was told the correct term.
I sure hope Mike doesn't fall on his keester while freezing his nads 
shooting his stones and trying to score.  :)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
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From John Mac <nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com>
Subject: Shrinkage...Filler that is
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Hey All,
How long should you wait before applying primers and
paint on polyester fillers?  A friend of mine spent a
sh%t load of time prepping his body and after
spraying, wet sanding and buffing it looked beautiful.
 However, a few weeks later it developed slight waves.
 Should you put it in the sun for a while before
priming and painting? Any thoughts?


John MacDonald
Bedford NH
70 B
59 Sprite 
-10 F in the unheated garage

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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 17 08:37:55 2004
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From SDOliner at aol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 10:36:40 EST
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ ... The New York Leg
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

I was away in digest mode but saw a post about a visit to NY and night on the 
town.
You can count me in on that one.
Better yet, I live in Brooklyn Heights, about a 20 minute cab or subway ride 
from the Javitis center, and can cook up a mean barbecue. It is an indoor gas 
fired model with a huge exhaust fan. I haven't tried putting my gas tank on it 
yet.
Any interest in a spridgets cook in? 
The Philadephia/NJ guys are invited also. I can provide two off street 
parking spots, if driving around the block for an hour or so isn't your thing.
Not sure of the days/timing of this, but just putting this question out 
there.

David Oliner






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
To: Phil Vanner <phil@outtech.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

--- Phil Vanner <phil@outtech.com> wrote:
> Mike Gigante was here in Minneapolis last night. Now
he's off to
> go curling in Wisconsin.

About to leave for the curling club meself to hook up
with Mike and Peter.  Freezing rain last night here,
through the grace of wheel dollies I got the Bugeyes
moved around to fit the truck in the garage next to
the wife's minivan, so at least there isn't an inch of
ice on the windshield.  Otherwise, I hear I90 is one
big curling sheet of ice right now.  Oughta be a fun drive!

=====
Ron Soave

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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: flex-head gear wrench
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:35:36 -0500

Before Christmas there were a few threads about the flex-heads.  I have a set
on back order at Sears and wondering if those who have them have had a chance
to use them and are they as handy to use as they seem.  If you have them would
you buy them again knowing what you know now?


Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "John D'Agostino" <john.dagostino at comcast.net>
To: "John Mac" <nonrunningmgb@yahoo.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040117145226.75267.qmail@web14427.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Shrinkage...Filler that is
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:50:06 -0500

Hi.

It's been my experience that the cheaper products will shrink more than a
premium product. For example in the PPG line, K36 primer is more stable
(less shrinking) than
a similar primer in the Omni line. Excessive film thickness will add to
shrinking also, as well as over reducing in an attempt to obtain good flow.
Lots of bondo or fiberglass filler under the paint will tend to shrink also.
Waiting a week or so in warm sunny weather will help, if you have the time
to spend.
Following the manufacturers recommendation on application and film thickness
is very important,
they spend lots of money developing these products to obtain oem results.
Las year I repaired  a hood  that was broken in two on a Daimler which is
fiberglass. I did it rather quickly as
it was supposed to be picked up soon. Looked smoooth until it sat outside in
the sun on a 90 degree day,
the seam line showed badly. So I waited waited a month sanded it flat again
and resprayed it, it's fine now.
Live and learn...

Hope this helps,
John


----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Shrinkage...Filler that is






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  process doing -bs
From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Marco" <mardep5@adelphia.net>, "spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <003a01c3dd17$f07d84d0$9865fea9@Notebook>
Subject: Re: flex-head gear wrench
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:22:15 -0600

> Before Christmas there were a few threads about the flex-heads.  I have a
set
> on back order at Sears and wondering if those who have them have had a
chance
> to use them and are they as handy to use as they seem.  If you have them
would
> you buy them again knowing what you know now?

Marco,
I got them for Xmas, too. I love them. I am so glad that I managed not to
buy any of the previous models of GearWrenches that tempted me. These are so
convenient. Too bad they wont do up the bolts to hold the driveshaft to the
differential...
David Lieb






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From <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: First car at Rivergates new shop......
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:33:31 -0600
  with any abuse report

http://www.rivergate5speed.com/rivergate.html

willy@thompsoncarpentry.com 

www.thompsoncarpentry.com






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 17 10:43:47 2004
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:42:43 -0600
From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
To: slobberbone@yahoogroups.com, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Yahoo Spridget list <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: NO LIST CONTENT: U.K. Camping stove
  FILETIME=[4D6A3090:01C3DD21]

I have been out at the flea
market, and found a U.K. camp
stove. It has the words
"ORIGINEEL HALLER" on it. They
are flanking a 2" sight glass
in the bowl that goes around
the flame. I tried a web
search on these words, but the
sites that came up are either
German or Dutch, I can't tell.
That is why I am asking the
Slobberbone list as well.
This is a neat looking piece.
The main colour is red, with a
white wick holder. The wick is
2 3/4" wide. The 3 legged base
is the fuel bowl, and it is
wide open, like a bowl. The
dimensions on it are 2 1/2"
tall and 5 3/4" across. The
wick holder set down on top of
the bowl. The upper bowl is 4"
tall and 9" across the widest
point. It is slotted to allow
the wick to come through. If
anyone has any information on
this, please let me know. I
can send photos if needed.
Thanks to all,
Brad






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 17 11:23:27 2004
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From "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Securing a 4-2-1 header to it's Y fitting
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:24:45 -0600

all,

in an effort to get the midget to pass tx inspection, i need to prevent the
exhaust leak at the Y of the 4-2-1 header (1500 engine).  a standard muffler
clamp won't fit between the "upper" section of the Y, so i have no way of
sealing it.  i bought a sheetmetal clamp set, but it didn't work very well.
and the "glue" isn't much better.  i don't have access to a welder.

thoughts?

mike






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From "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller at kencomp.net>
To: <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <btruvc+e4c1@eGroups.com>
Subject: books
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:39:56 -0000

Nigel,
you may know this one.....

There is apparently a book by a Doctor, about rebuilding a Midget.  It is
apparently more a narrative about the process, including a bit of "Zen & the
art of rebuiding old cars" about it, rather than the normal DIY repair guide.
Any idea who the author / what the title might be.  I think it dates from the
'70s and may well be out of print.

Guy






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From "DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE (HP-Boise,ex1)" <cyrille at hp.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Black oil after 60 miles
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:05:56 -0500

Hello,
 
I have a question, I put nice clean oil in my engine, but after 60 miles or
so, it turns black.
 
so, I have questions:
- is it normal?
- where can it come from?
  - I know that I run a little bit rich, but it is the best running setup
for my car
- could it be because of blow by? my compression numbers are 100 100 95 90
- should I worry?
- should I change my oil 5 or 6 times every 100 miles or so to see if it
clears up?
 
thanks, cyrille






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From "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Pertronix Hook-up Help - Mid job....
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:13:17 -0600

All,

I lost my instructions.  Red wire goes where?  Black wire?

Please call me as I'll be by the car.

512-853-9895

Tks,

Mike






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 17 12:13:32 2004
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From "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano at mindspring.com>
To: <mgraziano@mindspring.com>, "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Pertronix Hook-up Help - Mid job....
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:14:52 -0600

OK.  Got it.  Red is hot, black is negative.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:13 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Pertronix Hook-up Help - Mid job....


All,

I lost my instructions.  Red wire goes where?  Black wire?

Please call me as I'll be by the car.

512-853-9895

Tks,

Mike






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:29:58 -0500 (EST)
To: cyrille@hp.com (DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE \(HP-Boise,ex1\))
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Black oil after 60 miles
  message of Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:05:56 -0500

Cyrille...

Assuming the compression test was done
properly, the numbers tell the tale. Assuming a "leakdown check"
supports
the low compression numbers, the
engine is simply worn and nearing the end of it's normal service life.

With such engines, blackened "new" oil is short order (due mainly to
exessive blowby) is perfectly normal.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano@mindspring.com>,
   "Spridgets"
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Subject: Re: Pertronix Hook-up Help - Mid job....
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:09:49 -0500

Yeah, that's right.  I was just about to call you.
I just did a Pertronix conversion and the magnet on the dizzy lobes moves by
several degrees if you twist it by hand.  Does yours?  Anyone else?

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano at mindspring.com>
To: <mgraziano@mindspring.com>; "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: Pertronix Hook-up Help - Mid job....


> OK.  Got it.  Red is hot, black is negative.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 17 13:21:22 2004
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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE \(HP-Boise,ex1\)" <cyrille@hp.com>,
   <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Black oil after 60 miles
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:20:13 -0500

Low compression and black oil sure sound like blowby to me.  

Geoff Branch 
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini

----- Original Message ----- 
From "DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE (HP-Boise,ex1)" <cyrille at hp.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Black oil after 60 miles


> Hello,
>  
> I have a question, I put nice clean oil in my engine, but after 60 miles or
> so, it turns black.
>  
> so, I have questions:
> - is it normal?
> - where can it come from?
>   - I know that I run a little bit rich, but it is the best running setup
> for my car
> - could it be because of blow by? my compression numbers are 100 100 95 90
> - should I worry?
> - should I change my oil 5 or 6 times every 100 miles or so to see if it
> clears up?
>  
> thanks, cyrille






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 17 13:25:12 2004
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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:24:00 -0500 (EST)
To: Guy.Weller@kencomp.net (Guy Weller)
Cc: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: books
  Jan 2004 18:39:56 -0000

Guy...

Never heard of the one on Spridgets, but...

If you are referring to the "Zen" book on
the care and feeding of VW's (not Spridgets), I got it. It's a blast and
very
amusingly written.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:30:54 -0500 (EST)
To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: mgraziano@mindspring.com (Michael Graziano),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Pertronix Hook-up Help - Mid job....
  Jan 2004 15:09:49 -0500

The dizzy shaft moves several degrees
in and of itself, when twisted by hand...
is this the movement you are referring
to, Geoff?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:35:50 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: First car at Rivergates new shop......
  11:33:31 -0600

As God intended and as it obviously
"should be"!!!

Looks good, Willy...a little lonely, but good! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE (HP-Boise,ex1)" <cyrille@hp.com>,
   <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Black oil after 60 miles
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:45:58 -0500

well it urges me to wonder how much dirt in caked onto the inside of the
motor and how much dirty oil is trapped or standing somewhere in the oiling
system where it can not drain out.   blow by, dirt internally slowly getting
removed by detergent oils?   oil cooler with it's excess capacity?  dented
pan that does not drain properly?  lots of variables contributing to a
vvcommon end result of premature dirty oil.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE (HP-Boise,ex1) <cyrille at hp.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:07 PM
Subject: Black oil after 60 miles


>Hello,
>
>I have a question, I put nice clean oil in my engine, but after 60 miles or
>so, it turns black.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 17 14:13:48 2004
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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano@mindspring.com>,
   "Spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <22754-40099B7E-2844@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Pertronix Hook-up Help - Mid job....
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:12:38 -0500

No, the magnet that slips over the cam lobes actually rotates on the shaft.

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
Cc: "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano@mindspring.com>; "Spridgets"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pertronix Hook-up Help - Mid job....


> The dizzy shaft moves several degrees
> in and of itself, when twisted by hand...
> is this the movement you are referring
> to, Geoff?
>
>
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:03:02 -0500 (EST)
To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: mgraziano@mindspring.com, spridgets@autox.team.net, bugeye@yahoogroups.com,
   midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Pertronix Hook-up Help - Mid job....
  Jan 2004 16:12:38 -0500

"Magnet rotates on shaft"

To Geoff on autox. list:
I will tell you...this is one I have not run
into myself. The one I've got fits snugly...
always did.

So I've no clue. Methinks a phone call to
PerTronix Tech. may be in order here unless some other listers know
about this...maybe Rex or Colin on the Bugeye
List?.....

.....Guys...we've got a PerTronix wherein 
the "magnet" does not fit snugly on the dis
shaft...seems it's free to rotate a couple
of degrees (not the dist. shaft, itself) either way.  Is this "proper"
or "acceptable"?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:47:19 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: phil@outtech.com (Phil Vanner), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
  2004 08:23:12 -0600

"See..even Texas has cold weather"

You know....you can drown in that tub,
Toyperson...(hee, hee! Oh, too bad...so
sad!:):):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
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Texas redeemed herself today. It was almost
up to 70* this afternoon.

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> "See..even Texas has cold weather"
>
> You know....you can drown in that tub,
> Toyperson...(hee, hee! Oh, too bad...so
> sad!:):):)
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net>
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
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Brad Fornal wrote:
> Texas redeemed herself today. It was almost
> up to 70* this afternoon.

Again Brad, 2 words for you and your temeratures.
But YOU didn't go out sliding around in a Sprite on the snow did you?



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Was: Block Sanding...Now: Hand cleaners
To: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net

Rick,

You may be hitting a litle too close to home for some
people on this list.

Other Rick

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> like adult sized baby wipes.  

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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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CC: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Securing a 4-2-1 header to it's Y fitting
References: <EBELLJDEPCKNHDNLLNEBIEKDCOAA.mgraziano@mindspring.com>

Michael Graziano wrote:

Mike

Try that muffler cement. It comes in a tube and it has worked for me in 
the past.
Warm up the exhaust (not too hot) pack that stuff in and around your 
leak, wait about 10 minutes, start it up just to make sure you got it 
all sealed. Then wait a day before giving it a real test.
I have also heard (or read) but can not confirm that silicone sealer and 
coppershield mixed makes a good exhaust goop.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:46:29 -0500

Yeah, and wait until next summer when he whines about 30 days in a row with
the temp over 100....  :-)

----- Original Message -----
From "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at exit109.com>
To: "Brad Fornal" <toyman@digitex.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ


> Brad Fornal wrote:
> > Texas redeemed herself today. It was almost
> > up to 70* this afternoon.
>
> Again Brad, 2 words for you and your temeratures.
> But YOU didn't go out sliding around in a Sprite on the snow did you?
>
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/



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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Radio Star Sprite

I think PIECES now has it's 15 seconds of fame.
Today I heard about the local classic rock station doing a grand opening 
event at the new Advanced Auto in town. So I had the Sprite running and 
was seeing just how much cardboard I needed to get the temp up for heat 
and I heard the ad.
I did need a battery for the yellow Sprite so off I went with only 4" of 
radiator unblocked and 170* on the gauge and heat pumping out finally.
Bought a battery, I just love it when they ask for the car model ;) and 
they had it since it was a standard group 24. Picked up some 67 cent 
washer juice for the other cars and some carb cleaner since it was buy 1 
get 1 free. Then off to the radio van where they handed me a tee shirt 
and beer cooler. They mentioned the battery I bought and commented about 
my car. "What kind of car is that?"
   Once I got back in the car, I heard just the tale end of the radio 
guys "live on location" and batterys in stock for all cars.
I did miss the begining of the broadcast because I was walking back to 
the car. So now I wonder, did they say Advanced auto has Healey Sprite 
batterys in stock?

Now that I have a battery, I started the wiring on the yellow Sprite.
I also found out that a 3 position headlamp switch from a MKIII can not 
be wired as a turn signal switch on a MKI. So where did I get that 
longer tipped toggle switch?
And more words of wisdom. Check the bulb FIRST!
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
To: slobberbone@yahoogroups.com, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Yahoo Spridget list <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: GREST NEWS!!! No List Content
  FILETIME=[A285EB30:01C3DD55]

Just saw a commercial for abc
family channel. It seems that
they are having celebrity week
on Who's Line is it Anyway
this coming week. Whoopi,
Florence Henderson, Robin
Williams (hilarious), and
Richard Simmons (outdoes
Robin, REALLY).
So if you love to laugh, DON'T
miss this week on Who's Line
in the evenings.
Ok, back to your regularly
scheduled B.S.............

Brad






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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:15:43 -0500 (EST)
To: refisk@chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
  2004 18:46:29 -0500

"Wait 'til next summer"

Nah!! He'll just turn the temp down down
in the pool AND fridge........and consume
more and colder beers.

WE NEED TO KILL HIM!! <VBG>




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Midget Woes... Texas Inspection...
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:20:43 -0600

I had an interesting day today.  I devoted it to the MG, to get it ready for
inspection.  I installed a Pertronix, which got rid of the intermittent miss
I was plagued with.  I installed a new choke cable (I hate working behind
the dash with my big Italian hands), and finally sealed the exhaust with
some exhaust cement (before Frank's reply, but that what I used).  Then I
had it inspected.

Here are the items I failed on:

1) Parking brake loose (arguable)
2) Doesn't stop within feet allotted (approx 15 feet from 20 mph)
3) Rear brake lights not working
4) master cylinder leaking
5) Right Rear Wheel leaking brake fluid

I get it home, fiddle with the wires in the trunk, and the brake lights
start working.  The master cylinder isn't leaking, the paint loss was from
the old clutch master when it went, and I can't find anything on the right
rear wheel except a little oil.

Oh, and the car stops fine.  So much for "I have a '73 something with manual
brakes, and it stops fine".

I just a little pissed.....

Mike






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Good Auto-Body Site
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

I've noticed a few auto-body/paint questions on the
list lately and thought I'd tip you off to a good site
for newbie and experienced alike:  
www.autobodystore.com. They have a  forum section
where you can get good advice from some really
knowledgeable folks.  Also they have some supplied air
breathing systems for the hobbyist.  John D'Agostino
is right.  You don't want to mess around with iso
stuff without the proper equipment.  It's like the old
saw about buying a $2 helmet, great if you've got a $2
head.  Same deal with your $2 lungs.  Jay Fishbein and
I have a friend who had to give up his autobody career
due to iso poisoning.  Basically he was told he was
going to die if he had any further exposure.  I don't
know if it's apocryphal (nice big word, that), but
there's a story making the rounds of a delivery guy
for a body shop who died when some product containing
iso tipped over in his station wagon and killed him
from the fumes. 

Rick 

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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: <SDOliner@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ ... The New York Leg
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:27:47 -0600

David writes:

... a mean barbecue. It is an indoor gas
fired model with a huge exhaust fan.

I got one of those setups - kicks out about a half-million BTUs an hour if
you crank it all up ;-)

Phil Vanner
Minneapolis






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   Rick Fisk
  <refisk@chartermi.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
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ENOUGH of YOUR trash,
what did you think of my trash, that is, if you have gotten the disc
yet............??

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> "Wait 'til next summer"
>
> Nah!! He'll just turn the temp down down
> in the pool AND fridge........and consume
> more and colder beers.
>
> WE NEED TO KILL HIM!! <VBG>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:01:05 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: refisk@chartermi.net (Rick Fisk), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
  2004 18:50:41 -0600

"What do you think of my trash"?

It's at least as good, if not better than
my trash.....your's would probably be
considered more trashy than mine. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "WJHS1960" <wjhs1960 at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <4009C9D0.90407@exit109.com>
Subject: Re: Radio Star Sprite
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:22:41 -0600

<<I also found out that a 3 position headlamp switch from a MKIII can not 
be wired as a turn signal switch on a MKI.>>

Duh.

BTW Frank, Ed wrote and told me he has correct one in stock!

-:)

j.






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From Dave Carpenter <d.carpenter7 at verizon.net>
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To: Larry Pitts <FUZZY95687@yahoo.com>, spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Upholstery screw ( could be LBC related)
References: <20040116211142.12225.qmail@web80604.mail.yahoo.com>
  from [151.201.123.252] at Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:33:50 -0600

Larry here's a couple places I've delt with ove rthe years that cary all 
kinds of neat stuff.
http://www.restorationspecialties.com/catalog.htm
http://www.gardner-westcott.com/
http://www.mcmaster.com

lots and lots of hardware to choose from.
Dave & Bobbie
and "Little Bits" (check the revised web page) 
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2z49v/bugeye.htm

Larry Pitts wrote:

>Listers
>
>I'm looking for a source of stainless pan head
>upholstery screws. I guess pan head would be the term
>as the screw I'm looking for is a pan head type sheet
>metal screw with the "finishing" washer attached to
>the screw. ( make sense?) 
>Any suggestions/ (I've already tried a local marine
>shop).
>
>Larry Pitts
>60 Bugeye
>76 MGB (with new front bushings and tie rod ends-
>interesting project-nice ride)  






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From "Toby Atwater" <toyota_healey_bmw at cox.net>
To: "Kendel McCarley" <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>,
   "Spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Block Sanding... and Filling?
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:53:28 -0800

Have any friends with SCUBA gear? I got an old setup on Ebay and then had
everything inspected at my local dive shop. Got my dive certification while
I was at it. First thing to get painted was the tank! good practice and it
looks sharp. My dive buddies are begging me to paint their tanks. It's all
in the prep BTW. Now I have to mask it off \cover it up when I do any
painting for fear of ruining it.

Toby
Whose Sprite will match his tank soon.

>However, I haven't been able to find a reasonably priced forced air
respirator.
>Any hints where to locate one?






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401172358.i0HNwX1a016205@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 08:11:49 -0500

Phil Vanner wrote:
> For the first time I can remember somebody was worried 
> about going out east because it was colder there than here.

Yes, it was colder on Mars. Literally:

http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Jan04/MarsTemps.bpf.html

Temperature at 1 p.m., Jan. 14
Location                  Temp. (Fahrenheit)
Gusev crater, Mars         12
Providence, R.I.            9
Scranton Wilkes-Barre, Pa.  8
Hartford, Conn.             7
Buffalo, N.Y.               7
Rochester, N.Y.             3
Ithaca, N.Y.                3
Albany, N.Y.               -2
Binghamton, N.Y.           -2
Concord, N.H.              -3
Syracuse, N.Y.             -4
Burlington, Vt.           -10
Montpelier, Vt.           -12
Caribou, Maine            -13
Mount Washington, N.H.    -36

Stay warm,
Kent in NH
'56 100 BN2






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: RE: Block Sanding... and Filling?
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

--- Rick Neville <healeyrick@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 05:55:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Rick Neville <healeyrick@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: Block Sanding... and Filling?
> To: Toby Atwater <toyota_healey_bmw@cox.net>, 
>     Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>, 
>     Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> 
> Toby,
> 
> There's a blast from the past.  Welcome back, man.
> Frank had to go into the T-shirt business in your
> absence ;-)
> 
> Rick -
> 
> -- Toby Atwater <toyota_healey_bmw@cox.net> wrote:
> > Have any friends with SCUBA gear? I got an old
> setup
> > on Ebay and then had
> > everything inspected at my local dive shop. Got my
> > dive certification while
> > I was at it. First thing to get painted was the
> > tank! good practice and it
> > looks sharp. My dive buddies are begging me to
> paint
> > their tanks. It's all
> > in the prep BTW. Now I have to mask it off \cover
> it
> > up when I do any
> > painting for fear of ruining it.
> > 
> > Toby
> > Whose Sprite will match his tank soon.
> > 
> > >However, I haven't been able to find a reasonably
> > priced forced air
> > respirator.
> > >Any hints where to locate one?
> >

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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean@mindspring.com>,
   "Spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:09:24 -0600

Ugh.

That's pretty cold for back east. the Providence temp isn't all *that*
abnormal ( I grew up there), but while you had all the cold last week, we
were basking in the 20's. That's way above average. Now we're back to
normal, or bit below. It's five below now, with neg 27 wind chill.

With it being summer now down under, Mike has to be hating this. And I
wanted to drive the Mini tomorrow.

Phil Vanner
Minneapolis


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:12 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ


Phil Vanner wrote:
> For the first time I can remember somebody was worried
> about going out east because it was colder there than here.

Yes, it was colder on Mars. Literally:

http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Jan04/MarsTemps.bpf.html

Temperature at 1 p.m., Jan. 14
Location                  Temp. (Fahrenheit)
Gusev crater, Mars         12
Providence, R.I.            9
Scranton Wilkes-Barre, Pa.  8
Hartford, Conn.             7
Buffalo, N.Y.               7
Rochester, N.Y.             3
Ithaca, N.Y.                3
Albany, N.Y.               -2
Binghamton, N.Y.           -2
Concord, N.H.              -3
Syracuse, N.Y.             -4
Burlington, Vt.           -10
Montpelier, Vt.           -12
Caribou, Maine            -13
Mount Washington, N.H.    -36






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan 18 08:25:34 2004
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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <AKEMKGEDKDKHIKOPJBBLKENHFGAA.phil@outtech.com>
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:32:44 -0600

> It's five below now, with neg 27 wind chill.

Thanks Phil!
That was just the motivation I was needing to get me back out to the garage.
Today's projected high in Chicagoland is +22F (-6C) which felt cold until I
read about your -5F (-20C). Now if this headache would quit...
David Lieb






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To: spridgets@autox.team.net, midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com,
   bugeye@yahoogroups.com, morris@autox.team.net
From gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
Subject: TEST- ISP problems
Cc: morrisminors@smartgroups.com

Some problem with my ISP is preventing me from receiving any e-mails. 
I have been having problems since Friday night. Anyone who as sent me 
a message since Friday and have not received a reply means I have not 
received it. I probably won't get any response from my ISP until 
Monday, but I will try again today.

Thid is a test to see if outgoing works at least.

Gerard






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:52:53 EST
Subject: Re: Securing a 4-2-1 header to it's Y fitting
To: spritenut@exit109.com, mgraziano@mindspring.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/17/04 3:44:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
spritenut@exit109.com writes:


> Try that muffler cement. It comes in a tube and it has worked for me in 
> the past.
> Warm up the exhaust (not too hot) pack that stuff in and around your 
> leak, wait about 10 minutes, start it up just to make sure you got it 
> all sealed. Then wait a day before giving it a real test.
> I have also heard (or read) but can not confirm that silicone sealer and 
> coppershield mixed makes a good exhaust goop.
> 

I used some old-fashioned furnace/stove cemeny--pack it in tight in the same 
way.  Worked just fine for me--and cheap, too.

--David C.






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:57:29 EST
Subject: Re: Radio Star Sprite
To: spritenut@exit109.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/17/04 3:52:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
spritenut@exit109.com writes:


> new Advanced Auto in town. So I had the Sprite running and 
> was seeing just how much cardboard I needed to get the temp up for heat 
> and I heard the ad.
> I did need a battery for the yellow Sprite so off I went with only 4" of 
> radiator unblocked and 170* on the gauge and heat pumping out finally.
> Bought a battery, I just love it when they ask for the car model ;) and 
> they had it since it was a standard group 24. 

I'm not sure of the battery group, but Advance Auto has the wrong size 
battery listed for the rubber-bumper Spridgets.  What they try to sell is too large 
to fit the hole--I always have to eyeball the batteries and get one that is 
small enough.

--David C.






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From Kevin Valentine <kevin at valentinephoto.net>
Subject: PA Rally Date
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:12:49 -0500

Hey ALL,

The tentative date for this years PA Rally is July 10th.  We may be 
expanding the scope to a three day event with activities on Friday and 
Sunday as well, (by popular demand).  More information will be posted 
soon.

The "Rally Information Page" will be re-posted soon for those of you 
who need more information about the PA Rally.

I may need a few "volunteers" to help with this years proposed expanded 
schedule.  If you are interested, please contact me off list.

Thanks,

Kevin Valentine
Pennsylvania Rally '04






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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:34:06 -0500 (EST)
To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net, midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com,
   bugeye@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Bugeye Group..... TEST- ISP problems
  Jan 2004 09:02:25 -0800

Gerard...

You are getting out to spridget autox and
yahoo midgetsprite & BE just fine. An
individual response I sent you with respect to the foregoing "failed"
due to
"quota exceeded". Also..... .......................pxlsmith@softcom.net
"cannot create output".




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:34:59 -0500 (EST)
To: phil@outtech.com (Phil Vanner)
Cc: kentmclean@mindspring.com (Kent McLean),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ
  2004 09:09:24 -0600

That's it!!!

WINTER BITES THE BIG ONE, no matter
how you slice it. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Midget Woes... Texas Inspection...
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

RE:
> Here are the items I failed on:
> 
> 1) Parking brake loose (arguable)
> 2) Doesn't stop within feet allotted (approx 15 feet
> from 20 mph)
> 3) Rear brake lights not working
> 4) master cylinder leaking
> 5) Right Rear Wheel leaking brake fluid

If you ever get up to Canyon, I know this guy....
I drive it up, he checks to see that lights come on,
turn signals work, horn honks and takes my word that
the brakes work.(They do)

cheers, bill b.
'69 Sprite

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Subject: Pinhole in float bowl lid
From "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne at unc.edu>
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Hi Everybody,

Just making one last attempt at getting my carbs settled.  I installed a
pressure regulator and new needle valves in the float bowls as I was getting
fuel seeping around the rear jet.  I put the old jets back in to test
everything.  Well after turning the fuel pump on and letting it sit for a
couple of minutes I see fuel seeping into the body of the rear carb again,
damn.  

I also just found a pinhole in the lid of the rear float bowl so my question
is does the headspace of the float bowls normally run at a positive or
negative pressure.  If the answer is slight negative pressure then I9m
thinking that the pin hole would increase the pressure relative to the carb
body and increase the fuel level in the jet and lead to the fuel seepage.
What do you all think?

Regardless I9ve got to fix this pinhole.  Does JB Weld hold up to gasoline?

Thanks in advance,

Mike Gagne
74 midge twin HS2
Chapel Hill, NC






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan 18 19:16:42 2004
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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Lesson Learned

I learned another lesson today on SU carbs and jet centering.
Never center the jet with the choke link screwed on.
After an hour of "why does the piston work perfectly in the dash pot, 
and the piston falls with a thunk in the carb body, but not when the 2 
are assembled" I tried recentering the jet with everythin assembled.
No good. So when I finally undid the choke arm to the jet and recentered 
the jet, all was fine.
Now if the fresh carbs work, I'll be real happy.
I am waiting for the carb heat shield paint to dry before I assemble the 
carbs to the intake.
So maybe tomorrow night I'll throw the carbs on, whip up a dizzy and see 
how it all works.
No wonder the engine ran like crap when I fired it up on the garage 
floor with those carbs. 1 float (the plastic float) was full of gas so 
it didn't float real good, one throttle was seized, and both pistons 
were stuck. But hey, it still fired up and ran to some degree.
It should run much better now that the carbs are functional.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "PAsgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Disc Brakes--Spridgets 
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:06:41 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Hi all,

A forward from the Morris list:

paul A

I was just at Pick and Pull in North San Jose and saw an MG with front disks,
calipers and bolt on hubs, perfect for a transplant to a Morris.  I'll supply
details if anyone is interested.   Bill Langdell, Sunnyvale, CA  '57 Morris
Conv.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan 18 20:40:41 2004
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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne@unc.edu>,
   "spridget list"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <BC309FDD.C55A%mgagne@unc.edu>
Subject: Re: Pinhole in float bowl lid
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:39:27 -0500

Carb float bowls run at atmospheric pressure, that's why they are vented.  The
negative pressure (ie, below atmospheric) at the venturi is what allows the
atmospheric pressure on top of the fuel in the bowl to PUSH the fuel into the
venturi.

I think JB Weld would would just ducky for a pinhole leak.

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Michel R. Gagne" <mgagne at unc.edu>
To: "spridget list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:41 PM
Subject: Pinhole in float bowl lid


> Hi Everybody,
>
> Just making one last attempt at getting my carbs settled.  I installed a
> pressure regulator and new needle valves in the float bowls as I was getting
> fuel seeping around the rear jet.  I put the old jets back in to test
> everything.  Well after turning the fuel pump on and letting it sit for a
> couple of minutes I see fuel seeping into the body of the rear carb again,
> damn.
>
> I also just found a pinhole in the lid of the rear float bowl so my question
> is does the headspace of the float bowls normally run at a positive or
> negative pressure.  If the answer is slight negative pressure then I9m
> thinking that the pin hole would increase the pressure relative to the carb
> body and increase the fuel level in the jet and lead to the fuel seepage.
> What do you all think?
>
> Regardless I9ve got to fix this pinhole.  Does JB Weld hold up to gasoline?






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan 18 21:42:46 2004
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From Dean Hedin <dhedin at ieee.org>
To: Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net>, slobberbone@yahoogroups.com,
   Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   Yahoo Spridget list
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Subject: Re: GREST NEWS!!! No List Content
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On Saturday 17 January 2004 11:57 pm, Brad Fornal wrote:
> Just saw a commercial for abc
> family channel. It seems that
> they are having celebrity week
> on Who's Line is it Anyway
> this coming week.

Saw the commercial also.  Should be awsome with Robin Williams.  






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 19 07:17:51 2004
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From "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "Team-Thicko@Autox.Team.Net" <team-thicko@autox.team.net>,
   "Spridget
  List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: pics pics pics
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:15:38 -0600

The Team Thicko website revamp is progressing nicely...hopefully there'll be
an end of month debut.

Still needing many many pics. Racers, Spridget folks, SOS pics, whatever.
Pics of you, preferably clothed, pics of you with your car, whatever.

WST






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From John Mac <nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com>
Subject: Crane Electronic Ignition
To: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Hey All,

I've decided on the Crane electronic ingition for my
70B, but should I get the XR700 or the XR3000?  Just
looking for some biased opinions.  

Thanks,

John MacDonald
70B
59 Sprite
+28 F in the garage today!

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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 19 12:17:24 2004
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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:15:39 EST
Subject: Re: Crane Electronic Ignition
To: nonrunningmgb@yahoo.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/19/04 10:36:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
nonrunningmgb@yahoo.com writes:


> I've decided on the Crane electronic ingition for my
> 70B, but should I get the XR700 or the XR3000?  Just
> looking for some biased opinions.  
> 

XR700 for the Midget.  The B I am not sure of.  Go to the crane.com website 
and they should have a guide.  I have had it on my Midget for several years now 
and love it.

--David C.






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From Dbcooper292 at aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:20:00 EST
Subject: Re: Crane Electronic Ignition
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

I just bought it and haven't used it yet but asked a LOT of people and they 
all said to go with the 700.  No one, including racers, that I talked to had 
found it didn't have enough zap but several people had found that the huge 
amount of power in the 3000 caused all sorts of interference and problems.  Even 
talked to a couple people who returned the 3K and went to the 700.  Like I said, 
I haven't found out myself yet, but opinions were unanimous as far as I could 
tell.

Mark M.






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  EST

Dave...

I had a 3000 rather than a 700 on my
PO'd Vizardized '74.

As I recall, we chose the 3000 over
the 700 as was not polarity sensitive and 
came with a plug that could be hooked
into the rev-limiter.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:54:52 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Lesson Learned
  Jan 2004 21:14:36 -0500

Frank...

You MAY also find after centering the old jet, that a new jet is
required for
"proper" (non-sticking) full choke action.

This happened to me anyway. Guess the
old jet "tube" took a "set" while off-center
over time. Choke wouldn't fully deploy
after centering the old jet properly.

Bought a new jet, hooked everything up
after centering it and all worked normally.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 19 14:05:33 2004
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From jonathanb at onebox.com
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Crane Electronic Ignition
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:04:11 -0500

I asked the same question of Rivergate when I asked them to build me a 1275 - they recommended the XR700 - said they even use it in their race cars with no trouble.

JB


-----Original Message-----
From     John Mac <nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com>
Sent:     Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:32:34 -0800 (PST)
To:       Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject:  Crane Electronic Ignition

Hey All,

I've decided on the Crane electronic ingition for my
70B, but should I get the XR700 or the XR3000?  Just
looking for some biased opinions.  

Thanks,

John MacDonald
70B
59 Sprite
+28 F in the garage today!






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From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Radio Star Sprite 

  Speaking of wrong-size batteries...
 
  A friend gave me a battery out of a 2000 Ford F150 that is still good.  Original equipment battery.
  I was going to put it in my Toyota but it's just a bit too big for the battery tray in one direction.  Don't know if it'll fit a Spridget or not but if anyone in the Raleigh NC area wants it for anything and wants to pick it up you can have it free.
  If it sits around too long it -will- be bad and I'll take it to a recycle place.
  Ed in NC (Raleigh) (919) 231-8674






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From Larry Pitts <FUZZY95687 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Upholstery screw ( could be LBC related)
To: spridgets@autox.team.net, midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com,
   bugeye@yahoogroups.com

Thanks for the info everyone! I appreciate the response. I'll start looking in earnest on Thursday. 
 
Larry Pitts 






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Subject: Ford question, no LBC
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:36:53 -0800

Hi Guys,
I know somebody here will have some answers for me.
The brake light on my '87 F350 crew cab has started to flash on & off.  The
pedal feels fine, and it has brake fluid.  Before we moved, we had a complete
brake job done at a very good shop, by a mechanic that I have complete
confidence in. My thought is a short in the switch?  Thanks.
Kate






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Gary  & Kathryn Bales" <kgb@frontiernet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Ford question, no LBC
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:28:49 -0500

if it's standard brakes not ABS, i'd try centering the switch in the
proportioning valve.  and just a quick glance under the rear at both brake
backing plates to see if they are showing any signs of being damp at the
bottoms of the plates.    just ta be certain that the rear cylinders are not
leaking causing the valve to go off center bringing on the light.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Gary & Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:18 PM
Subject: Ford question, no LBC


>Hi Guys,
>I know somebody here will have some answers for me.
>The brake light on my '87 F350 crew cab has started to flash on & off.  The
>pedal feels fine, and it has brake fluid.  Before we moved, we had a
complete
>brake job done at a very good shop, by a mechanic that I have complete
>confidence in. My thought is a short in the switch?  Thanks.
>Kate






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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:37:39 -0500 (EST)
To: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Ford question, no LBC
  Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:36:53 -0800

Hi, Kate...

I would sure suspect a faulty switch to
begin with.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Is it flashing randomly or steadily? Does the truck have ABS ? Is it 
flashing a pattern such as 1 long 3 shorts flashes. Does it come on only 
under acceleration or braking or going around corners ? Does it come on 
immediately on starting or after you have driven the truck a short 
distance ? So many questions .

John

Gary & Kathryn Bales wrote:

>Hi Guys,
>I know somebody here will have some answers for me.
>The brake light on my '87 F350 crew cab has started to flash on & off.  The
>pedal feels fine, and it has brake fluid.  Before we moved, we had a complete
>brake job done at a very good shop, by a mechanic that I have complete
>confidence in. My thought is a short in the switch?  Thanks.
>Kate






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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Subject: Re: Ford question, no LBC
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Gary & Kathryn Bales wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> I know somebody here will have some answers for me.
> The brake light on my '87 F350 crew cab has started to flash on & off. 

I had an 88 F150 and the brake light did the same thing.
It was the E brake warning switch under the E brake pedal that was a bit 
out of adjustment. It thought the parking brake was on when it was not.
Try this for a quick test. Lift up on the E brake pedal and see if the 
light goes out. If not, better have the brakes looked at.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 19 18:11:15 2004
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: More We tight solutions

Bugeye washer fluid bottle.
In trying to make the original Tudor plastic washer juice bottle look 
"presentable" I gave up. I starting looking for a replacement bottle 
around the house, and I found a few candidates but most are too flimsy 
or a solid color.
So today on the way home from work I stopped by my brother's marina (he 
is employed at a marina, he doesn't own it) and saw a clear glass bottle 
damn near empty. He told me what it was, some fiberglass type of 
chemical, but the bottle is perfect! Semi hard screw on cap (even the 
Tudor original cap fits this glass bottle) I drilled the appropriate 
holes in the cap, installed the pick up tube, stuck a Tudor sticker on 
the bottle and it looks nice! Better than that milky white plastic 
bottle. Besides, old Jaguars always had glass windshield washer bottles.

So if your windshield washer bottle looks a bit peekid, check your 
neighbors recycling bucket for a suitable replacement.
This clear glass bottle really does look great. Not concours. Better! ;)
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:46:00 EST
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Re: Upholstery screw ( could be LBC related)
To: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/19/2004 5:00:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
FUZZY95687@YAHOO.COM writes:
I'll start looking in earnest on Thursday. 

Larry Pitts 

.
Is Ernie gonna like that?

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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To: spritenut@exit109.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/19/2004 6:10:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
spritenut@exit109.com writes:
So if your windshield washer bottle looks a bit peekid, check your 
neighbors recycling bucket for a suitable replacement.
This clear glass bottle really does look great. Not concours. Better! ;)
-- 
Frank Clarici
.

All you southeast PA guys should stop at Weavers Hardware for a Ball jar for 
your Amish Spridget....

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Brain teaser
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Interesting problem we were discussing at work spurred
by Jay's email on F150 vs. Mini crash tests:

A car hits an immovable wall at 40 MPH.

The same car hits its identical twin car, each going
40 MPH, head on.

Which collision is worse, and why?

Answer tomorrow.  First correct answer wins 2 broken
lift-the-dot fasteners and a rusty pitted lifter.

(apologies to a certain engineer out there for not
explaining the answer more clearly, although he came
around to it himself soon enough - I should never do
brain teasers after many beers and curling).

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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: borderline LBC - Lotus 7 replica with the heart of a miata.
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

pretty awesome.

http://www.championmotorcars.com/GRM/GRM_48hours.htm 

http://www.championmotorcars.com/GRM/GRM_48hours2.htm 



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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'Frank Clarici'" <spritenut@exit109.com>
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Subject: RE: More We tight solutions
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:53:10 -0800

Not that you need it now, but comet will do wonders with the plastic
bottle.
		Crash


Bugeye washer fluid bottle.
In trying to make the original Tudor plastic washer juice bottle look 
"presentable" I gave up. I starting looking for a replacement bottle 
around the house, and I found a few candidates but most are too flimsy 
or a solid color.
So today on the way home from work I stopped by my brother's marina (he 
is employed at a marina, he doesn't own it) and saw a clear glass bottle

damn near empty. He told me what it was, some fiberglass type of 
chemical, but the bottle is perfect! Semi hard screw on cap (even the 
Tudor original cap fits this glass bottle) I drilled the appropriate 
holes in the cap, installed the pick up tube, stuck a Tudor sticker on 
the bottle and it looks nice! Better than that milky white plastic 
bottle. Besides, old Jaguars always had glass windshield washer bottles.

So if your windshield washer bottle looks a bit peekid, check your 
neighbors recycling bucket for a suitable replacement.
This clear glass bottle really does look great. Not concours. Better! ;)
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
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Hello Ron,

       that's an easy one. the collisions are identical. ..

       F=MA. .. force equals MASS times acceleration, or deceleration
       in this case.

       this is why they don't give the results of crash tests of
       vehicles against different weight classes. then if becomes too
       obvious that the safer car IS the heavier car. (or SUV)...

       most people won't believe that two cars approaching each other
       at 70 mph hit with the same force as one car hitting that
       object at 70. they (instinctively) know that 140 is faster than
       70, but they're wrong!




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

RE:
> A car hits an immovable wall at 40 MPH.
> 
> The same car hits its identical twin car, each going
> 40 MPH, head on.
> 
> Which collision is worse, and why?
> 

The second. 'Cause it messes up two perfectly good
cars instead of just one.

cheers, bill b.

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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
To: Bill L <pythias@pacifier.com>
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--- Bill L <pythias@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Hello Ron,
> 
>        that's an easy one. the collisions are
> identical. ..

We have a winner (24 incorrect answers before this). 

It is NOT 40 + 40 = 80, twice as bad. The crash has
twice the total energy, but each car absorbs half,
where as hitting an immovable object the 40 MPH car
takes all of it.  Now, if there were a heavier car, it
would move the lighter car, so for the heavier car it
would be like hitting a wall at, say, 30 mph, vs. 50
mph for the smaller car.  Now it comes down to which
car takes a hit better at a given level of crash
energy.



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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 20 07:38:31 2004
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:36:48 -0500 (EST)
To: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L)
Cc: soavero@yahoo.com (Ron Soave), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
  05:54:03 -0800

Bill L. .....

"Same at 70 as at 140" (paraphrased:)

There is something missing from your
logic here, Billy. And no, I don't know
what it is 'cause I are only a tolip.

I mean....I can't even spell but.....
......you can hang an elephant off a cliff
by it's tail theoretically and I ain't buying
that one either!

I'll take the more uncrushable Mini but...
I am always willing to learn as to why
I should've picked the SUV who's driver's
legs were obviously crushed along with
(omigod) damage to the 'nad area, most likely! Now this is serious. The
loss of 
legs I can live with as I know I can use
my built-in backup member and "pogostick
it"....I mean, it's trainable, right? :)

Besides, most SUV's "roll over" 
and self-destruct in a nanosecond without being asked to do
so ("bad dog") with no hesitiation
under circumstances wherein no self-respecting
modern car (let alone a Mini) would be
inclined to do so. I've watched them
do so twice. Totally ridiculous display
of "bad manners" in both cases,
"crushability" notwithstanding.  

And did I forget to mention they block out
the sunlight?! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE (HP-Boise,ex1)" <cyrille at hp.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Brain teaser
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:22:04 -0500

Hello

>I'll take the more uncrushable Mini but...
>I am always willing to learn as to why
>I should've picked the SUV who's driver's
>legs were obviously crushed along with
>(omigod) damage to the 'nad area, most likely! Now this is serious. The
loss of 
>legs I can live with as I know I can use
>my built-in backup member and "pogostick
>it"....I mean, it's trainable, right? :)
Actually, you want a as crushable as possible Mini, if it is uncrushable,
the shock will hit you instead of the front of your car, and let me tell you
that it is easier to design a crushable car than to repar a human!

>Besides, most SUV's "roll over" 
>and self-destruct in a nanosecond without being asked to do
>so ("bad dog") with no hesitiation
>under circumstances wherein no self-respecting
>modern car (let alone a Mini) would be
>inclined to do so. 
Can I say: Mercedes class A? this sounds like a self-respecting car, but it
does roll over :-)

>And did I forget to mention they block out
>the sunlight?! :):)
Here, I agree, but they also are good to follow on the highway, they cause
so much drag that I can reduce my mileage to over 50 mpg if I follow one on
the highway in my midget (not even talking of the extra 10 to 15 mph top
speed due to the reduced air friction!

Cyrille






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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:31:58 -0500 (EST)
To: w_burrell@yahoo.com (bill b.)
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Subject: Re: Brain teaser
  2004 05:57:01 -0800 (PST)

See...

Now Bill B has the right idea, here!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:38:45 -0500 (EST)
To: soavero@yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Cc: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
  06:12:21 -0800 (PST)

"The collisions are identical"

They're supposed to be...
that's the point with respect
to relative damage shown to each car
under same circumstances.

Back to "square one". :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:06:00 -0500 (EST)
To: cyrille@hp.com (DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE \(HP-Boise,ex1\))
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Brain teaser
  message of Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:22:04 -0500

"Actually, you want it as crushable as
possible (I shall finish this for you,
Cyrille, 'cause I'm a nice guy!) up to a
point!" :):)

You are, of course, correct Cyrille, as
otherwise one ends up as previously
described (and, so very well!) in my
previous post were he unfortunate
enough to be inhabiting the SUV under
the circumstances surrounding the posts
on the subject.

All motor vehicles can roll over...so cut it
out, Cyrille.....you know what I mean kowabunga!! :):) <VBG>

It's all a question of "grays" as in inclined to do
so...relatively.....and then, under certain circumstances not yet
defined
(but I can go there, if you want, as in
"turn & brake"/impact situations fr'instance!:).

Cyrille...when that guy in front of you
that you that you are drafting (and cannot see beyond) suddenly brakes,
I hope you
are driving a Mini-type rather than an
SUV-type in accordance with what is
shown on the collision photos. :):)

Actually, I take that back...you'd be better
off in a tank 'cause that's what you are
gonna need to avoid injury in terms
of "tailgating", most especially so in the
case of the larger, heavier vehicles, faster
moving vehicles you choose so as to allow yourself to save......pennies?
:):)

It's a good thing I like you, Cyrille...or I
might just have to kill you myself! <VBG>

(All tongue in cheek so don't get offended,
PULLEESE!!:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: Bill L <pythias@pacifier.com>, spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net> wrote:
> "The collisions are identical"
> 
> They're supposed to be...
> that's the point with respect
> to relative damage shown to each car
> under same circumstances.
> 
> Back to "square one". :)

See my response - the Mini and F-150 hitting EACH
OTHER at 40 mph is like the Mini hitting a wall at
some higher speed than 40, and the F-150 hitting a
wall at a lower speed than 40 MPH.  Say its 50 vs. 30
MPH. Now is a Mini safer (ie, does it absorb energy
saafely) at 50 vs. an F-150 at 30?  maybe so.

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Subject: Not much LBC!
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:08:12 -0800
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From "DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE (HP-Boise,ex1)" <cyrille at hp.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Brain teaser
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:37:51 -0800

Hello

>All motor vehicles can roll over...so cut it
>out, Cyrille.....you know what I mean kowabunga!! :):) <VBG>
Yes, I know, but that does not mean I can not make fun of Mercedes, isn't
it?

>Cyrille...when that guy in front of you
>that you that you are drafting (and cannot see beyond) suddenly brakes, I
hope you are 
>driving a Mini-type rather than an SUV-type in accordance with what is
shown on the 
>collision photos. :):) Actually, I take that back...you'd be better
>off in a tank 'cause that's what you are
>gonna need to avoid injury in terms
>of "tailgating", 

Actually, if you tailgate a SUV, you can easely see beyond him, either by
standing up on your seat to see through his windows (if they are not
tainted), or much simply, in the case of the Midget by looking straigh ahead
of you, between his weels :-)

>most especially so in the
>case of the larger, heavier vehicles, faster
>moving vehicles you choose so as to allow yourself to save......pennies?
Do not see it in terms of money, but in terms of needed parts! LBC pars do
cost pennies! So it is worth it :-) (in both cases, you get parts, wether
it's by money saving, or buyout of wreck!)

Cheeres!






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From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Conscience teaser

The "Honor Snack box" guy just walked in.... I quick threw a fiver in.

Felt like Sunday school.


Peter C.






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[2]: Brain teaser
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  <20040120141221.96126.qmail@web11703.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Ron,

        and now for another brain teaser .....

        assuming that the tires are to be filled to the exact same
        tire pressure, which puts more rubber on the road, a tall
        skinny tire, (like a 165/80/13) or a short fat tire, (like a
        205/50/15)?  of course on the same car.

        no prizes... sorry can't afford shipping.  :-)

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 20 15:48:35 2004
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From jonathanb at onebox.com
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Brain teaser
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:47:04 -0500

Assuming similar tire construction, then I believe the contact patch should be the same size, just a different shape.

JB


-----Original Message-----
From     Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
Sent:     Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:57:58 -0800
To:       Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
Cc:       spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject:  Re[2]: Brain teaser

Hello Ron,

        and now for another brain teaser .....

        assuming that the tires are to be filled to the exact same
        tire pressure, which puts more rubber on the road, a tall
        skinny tire, (like a 165/80/13) or a short fat tire, (like a
        205/50/15)?  of course on the same car.

        no prizes... sorry can't afford shipping.  :-)

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:11:24 -0500 (EST)
To: cyrille@hp.com (DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE \(HP-Boise,ex1\))
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Brain teaser
  message of Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:37:51 -0800

LOL, Cyrille...

Of course you can make fun of Mercedes...God knows somebody
should!

For the rest of it I am LMAO, and present
you with a true story wherein tailgating
became the only way to go! :)

A long time ago, I commuted up to 
ALB where I was based at the time
flying for Piedmont Regional. I had
to get up there for an early departure
and the aircraft I was going to commute
on the evening before had a mechanical
in LGA. Last flight out got cancelled and
no way to get there from here, by air. 

So filled the Vizardized '74
Spridget up and headed up the NY
Thruway at just below the speed of
sound and checked in at the airport
Comfort Inn.

Did the trip. Snowed all day from a line
bordered on the South by Binghampton,
Newburgh, Kingston, Hartford and east
through Boston.

Headed South back to Stamford via
the NY Thruway...pretty well plowed
but still snowing lightly with less
falling snow and accumulation as I
proceeded further South.

It's after 6pm, snowing, cold...and
it's black as night usually is and.....
all the lights fail 5 miles South of 
ALB (or maybe it was
just the headlights. Long time ago!). 

I "tucked in" right behind an 18 wheeler 
and stayed there for two hours or so,
'til we hit Newburg where little snow, good
roads, plenty of light and a large hot,
black coffee awaited....changed fuses.

(There was no short. The new fuse and lights worked fine for many years
thereafter).




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:12:24 -0500 (EST)
To: soavero@yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Cc: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
  08:06:59 -0800 (PST)

"See my response"

I perceive!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Lieb David" <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: classic motorsports
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:02:30 -0600
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just got my issue of classic motorsports, and the Chicago Mg group has a
picture at "the Rock" on thanksgiving day.... only thing is they used last
years picture,,,,bastards.....I wasn't there last year...LOL,. this year
both Son and I were there.....
willy@thompsoncarpentry.com

www.thompsoncarpentry.com






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To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: hmmmmmm
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:12:52 -0600
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http://www.wirewheel.com/Cars/Auto_Generated_Pages/1068048209.shtml

willy@thompsoncarpentry.com 

www.thompsoncarpentry.com






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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:36:05 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com
Cc: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com (Lieb David),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: classic motorsports
  19:02:30 -0600

Ahhh...

"bastids" :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:42:14 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  19:12:52 -0600

Very impressive!!! :)

I hate the Biscuit interior...yechhh!

But otherwise.....kewl!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>, <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <19970-400DD8F6-2483@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:02:54 -0600

> I hate the Biscuit interior...yechhh!

But Biscuit tends to be a little less likely to burn the backs of your legs
on those hot Texas days, right, Toyman?

I wouldn't want to discourage some sweet young thing to wear shorts in my
Spridget, would you?

David Lieb






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
References: <DIECKGFCDFMIDPKNINMJCEIDFDAA.willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
  FILETIME=[74D8A370:01C3DFC2]

That is quite a chunk of change, for a car so far from original. At least that
is MY take on it.

Brad

willy@thompsoncarpentry.com wrote:

> http://www.wirewheel.com/Cars/Auto_Generated_Pages/1068048209.shtml
>
> willy@thompsoncarpentry.com
>
> www.thompsoncarpentry.com






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From <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: colors
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:04:58 -0600
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The Biscuit interior was about the ONLY thing I liked on that car, (other
than the body color, but then Im partial to that.....color) ;)


but I was thinking of doing my big healey with that color, and that more or
less talked me out of it.........


willy@thompsoncarpentry.com

www.thompsoncarpentry.com






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From "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: colors
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:15:24 -0500

I can live with the biscuit interior, but the big belt has to go.  Looks
pretty silly IMHO.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:04 PM
Subject: colors


> The Biscuit interior was about the ONLY thing I liked on that car, (other
> than the body color, but then Im partial to that.....color) ;)
>
>
> but I was thinking of doing my big healey with that color, and that more
or
> less talked me out of it.........



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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:25:38 -0500 (EST)
To: dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Cc: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com, spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  20 Jan 2004 20:02:54 -0600

Sheepskin Seat Covers

Had the same ones going on 20 years...
cool in the summer..warm in he winter.
Phred likes to sleep on them during
the summer when he's on "car watch"

(when he gets tired of sleeping on the
"up" side of the tonneau, that is!:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:29:44 -0600
From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: David Lieb <dbl@chicagolandmgclub.com>,
   "Robert E. Shlafer"
  <PilotRob@webtv.net>, willy@thompsoncarpentry.com,
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
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  <002901c3dfc2$af051060$8500a8c0@finnland>
  FILETIME=[6F19B420:01C3DFC6]

I am more partial to short blue dresses, wink, wink!!!

Brad

The above smart ass remark was brought to you by TIDE(tm)
"Gets out tough grass stains, and so much more............"

David Lieb wrote:

> > I hate the Biscuit interior...yechhh!
>
> But Biscuit tends to be a little less likely to burn the backs of your legs
> on those hot Texas days, right, Toyman?
>
> I wouldn't want to discourage some sweet young thing to wear shorts in my
> Spridget, would you?
>
> David Lieb






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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: hmmmmmm
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:36:02 -0600
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Sheepskin Seat Covers? hey? you got those bead roller things too? that
massage you as you drive *wink*

and how can you get tired of sleeping? hmmm

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:26 PM
To: David Lieb
Cc: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com; Spridgets
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm


Sheepskin Seat Covers

Had the same ones going on 20 years...
cool in the summer..warm in he winter.
Phred likes to sleep on them during
the summer when he's on "car watch"

(when he gets tired of sleeping on the
"up" side of the tonneau, that is!:)




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:37:21 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: RE: hmmmmmm
  Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:36:02 -0600

^ .  . ^
  =0= ....I like to sleep around, OK? You
            got a problem wit dat? :(

Nah..no "bead seats", Willy! <VBG>

As far as the massage goes...........ain't
goin' there!! I can't...I WON'T.....:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:42:42 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com, spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 20:01:17 -0600

"That is MY take on it"

And your point is......? :)

This is the upgraded and modern improved edition, Toy!! 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Jay Fishbein <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: colors
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Personally, I never cared for a car done in non-period colors.

Which brings to mind another thing I don't like about "colors": stupid 
names, like: midnight black, chocolate mocha hershey brown, Purdue 
yellow, gizard green, glacier white, ice white, snow white....

And don't you spell bolor with a "k"?

Seriously though, I've never met or spoken with Hayes Harris who 
operates this dealership but he emailed me out of the blue a couple of 
years ago and turned me on to a beautiful unrestored Innocenti Spyder 
that he looked at but wasn't interested in.

I know nothing else about him, but that makes for one great guy in my book.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

willy@thompsoncarpentry.com wrote:

> The Biscuit interior was about the ONLY thing I liked on that car, (other
> than the body color, but then Im partial to that.....color) ;)






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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Yeah, I have heard about those "beads" you sit on..............
OUCH!!!

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> ^ .  . ^
>   =0= ....I like to sleep around, OK? You
>             got a problem wit dat? :(
>
> Nah..no "bead seats", Willy! <VBG>
>
> As far as the massage goes...........ain't
> goin' there!! I can't...I WON'T.....:)
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:48:55 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: colors
  20:04:58 -0600

"Biscuit" bites!!! YECHHHHH!!!!

A Camel Tan interior....neato!  A black
interior....OK. Even a red one
to match the wheels...acceptable.

You know how hard it is to keep Biscuit
clean and lookin' good?? Well....

DO YOU????? Don't just sit there.....
ANSWER ME!!  <vbg>




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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   Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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I can see paying lots of cash for an original car. I
respect the person that has the discipline and self control
to put it back "correct" rather than put it together
quickly to drive it. I am the latter, and I never will
expect my car to sell for that much money. I am not saying
that it isn't a nice car, I just feel that an original car
should pull more money than a car that is put together in a
less than original manner. I will turn my little Frog into
the kind of car that haunt's Nigel's worst dreams, but it
is for me, not for resale value. If I were to even CONSIDER
that I would resell it, I would be rebuilding the 948 and
trying to make one good smoothcase out of the two I have.
It is my perception that for resale value, go original. For
fun, do what this guy did.

Brad

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> "That is MY take on it"
>
> And your point is......? :)
>
> This is the upgraded and modern improved edition, Toy!!
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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  <002901c3dfc2$af051060$8500a8c0@finnland>
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:53:35 -0600

Brad??
When did you start wearing dresses???

> I am more partial to short blue dresses, wink, wink!!!
>
> Brad
>
> The above smart ass remark was brought to you by TIDE(tm)
> "Gets out tough grass stains, and so much more............"
>
> David Lieb wrote:
>
> > > I hate the Biscuit interior...yechhh!
> >
> > But Biscuit tends to be a little less likely to burn the backs of your
legs
> > on those hot Texas days, right, Toyman?
> >
> > I wouldn't want to discourage some sweet young thing to wear shorts in
my
> > Spridget, would you?
> >
> > David Lieb






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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:54:30 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com, spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 20:47:25 -0600

Beads...heh,heh :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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Ron Soave wrote:

> It is NOT 40 + 40 = 80, twice as bad. The crash has
> twice the total energy, but each car absorbs half,

Ron

Did you prove this? Try this....
Take a hammer to your fender. The fender is a fixed object. Well it will 
need to be "fixed" after this test :)
Now take the same hammer and hit a golf ball with the same force.
Ot make it a fender not sitting on the ground. I bet the mark isn't as bad.
Now take 2 of the same hammers (not chinese made) and snack them 
together. They are gonna bounce off each other.
Take 2 fenders and smack them together, minor dents on each, now take 
one fender in your hands and smack the fender on your car. I bet your 
car's fender has a bigger dent.
It's gonna bounce off your fender too but it's gonna leave a mark.

Not that I want any more used rusty parts, but I bet there is a bounce 
off factor in the head on where there is only 1/2 the bounce factor in 
the immovable object.

Once you smash all these fenders, let us know if there is indeed a 
bounce factor. I ain't no engineer so I don't give a sheet.

Example, in my line of work if I take a board (movable) and smash it 
into another board alreaddy nailed up,(immovable) the smasher will most 
likely snap off where the smashee will most likely look the same.
If I take those same 2 boards and smash them together, I made "clap" 
boards and get a loud noise and still have 2 good boards.

then again, I could be wrong, I have been in the past.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:03:47 -0500

Oh man, that's a mental image I didn't need - Brad in a short blue dress.
:-)

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From "Charlie Shelden" <shelden3 at pldi.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm


> Brad??
> When did you start wearing dresses???
>
> > I am more partial to short blue dresses, wink, wink!!!
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > The above smart ass remark was brought to you by TIDE(tm)
> > "Gets out tough grass stains, and so much more............"



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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:06:07 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com, spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 20:52:34 -0600

Well, Brad...

It's the "asking price" of course but I
catch your drift and understand it.

A completely restored BE ("Willy" Green!)
with wire wheels, new interior, etc. was
in the Volvo "pre-owned" showroom
last Spring. Totally redone "original"....
and a beautiful job it was.

Asking price was 14K. 948cc, smoothcase
and 4.22...very nice car. New convertible
top and original sidescreens with new
"plastic".




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
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Bob,
You're doin' alot of humming. Are you musical or is there an electrical 
problem?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> ^ .  . ^
>   =0= ....I like to sleep around, OK? You
>             got a problem wit dat? :(
> 
> Nah..no "bead seats", Willy! <VBG>
> 
> As far as the massage goes...........ain't
> goin' there!! I can't...I WON'T.....:)






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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
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Brad Fornal wrote:

> I can see paying lots of cash for an original car. I
> respect the person that has the discipline and self control
> to put it back "correct" rather than put it together
> quickly to drive it. I am the latter, and I never will
> expect my car to sell for that much money. 

Now you know why I am redoing my old yellow Sprite to almost bone stock.
Yes it will have an alternator but I will also give the buyer the option 
of the tach drive generator. (if he doesn't beat me up on the price)
I was going to re-restore this car anyway but stumbled on another shell 
for *my Sprite* which is far from bone stock.
I am also selling this original (stock color) Sprite for a lot less than 
the other guy but not cheap.
More like a reasonable going price.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:29:34 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: soavero@yahoo.com (Ron Soave), pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
  Jan 2004 22:01:22 -0500

So, ah....Frank.

When are you redoing Ron's car after
he gets through with your suggested
experiment on his vehicle?? 

Just asking, of course! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: "Brad Fornal" <toyman@digitex.net>
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:30:36 -0600

Sorry couldn't resist....back to striping my bugeye...
----- Original Message ----- 

> NOT ME DAMMIT!! The sweet old thang.......
> young, I meant young!!!!
> sorry..........
>
>
> Charlie Shelden wrote:
>
> > Brad??
> > When did you start wearing dresses???
> >
> > > I am more partial to short blue dresses, wink, wink!!!
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > The above smart ass remark was brought to you by TIDE(tm)
> > > "Gets out tough grass stains, and so much more............"
> > >
> > > David Lieb wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I hate the Biscuit interior...yechhh!
> > > >
> > > > But Biscuit tends to be a little less likely to burn the backs of
your
> > legs
> > > > on those hot Texas days, right, Toyman?
> > > >
> > > > I wouldn't want to discourage some sweet young thing to wear shorts
in
> > my
> > > > Spridget, would you?
> > > >
> > > > David Lieb






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Couldn't find a woman.................?

Charlie Shelden wrote:

> Sorry couldn't resist....back to striping my bugeye...
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > NOT ME DAMMIT!! The sweet old thang.......
> > young, I meant young!!!!
> > sorry..........
> >
> >
> > Charlie Shelden wrote:
> >
> > > Brad??
> > > When did you start wearing dresses???
> > >
> > > > I am more partial to short blue dresses, wink, wink!!!
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > > The above smart ass remark was brought to you by TIDE(tm)
> > > > "Gets out tough grass stains, and so much more............"
> > > >
> > > > David Lieb wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > I hate the Biscuit interior...yechhh!
> > > > >
> > > > > But Biscuit tends to be a little less likely to burn the backs of
> your
> > > legs
> > > > > on those hot Texas days, right, Toyman?
> > > > >
> > > > > I wouldn't want to discourage some sweet young thing to wear shorts
> in
> > > my
> > > > > Spridget, would you?
> > > > >
> > > > > David Lieb






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To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal), spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  Jan 2004 22:21:53 -0500

"More like a reasonable going price"

Well....

Different "overhead" in terms of expenses..."commercial" vs. "private"
and, of course, you ARE a reasonable
guy (who wants Ron to destroy his car
by experimenting on it with hammers,
etc.:):):)




Cap'n. Bob 
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  Jan 2004 22:10:39 -0500

Speaking of humming...

I AM in need of a "hummer"....any
volunteers out there! :) Brad?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:47:44 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 22:03:47 -0500

Let me help...Rick...

picture the hairy legs...




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: colors
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

it is difficult for car companies to copyright colours like "black" and
"red"

my girlfriend has international standard colours she has named herself.
 woo hoo, one of the many perks of working for a paint factory, LOL.

--- Jay Fishbein <type79@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Personally, I never cared for a car done in non-period colors.
> 
> Which brings to mind another thing I don't like about "colors":
> stupid 
> names, like: midnight black, chocolate mocha hershey brown, Purdue 
> yellow, gizard green, glacier white, ice white, snow white....
> 
> And don't you spell bolor with a "k"?
> 
> Seriously though, I've never met or spoken with Hayes Harris who 
> operates this dealership but he emailed me out of the blue a couple
> of 
> years ago and turned me on to a beautiful unrestored Innocenti Spyder
> 
> that he looked at but wasn't interested in.
> 
> I know nothing else about him, but that makes for one great guy in my
> book.
> 
> jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
> http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/
> 
> willy@thompsoncarpentry.com wrote:
> 
> > The Biscuit interior was about the ONLY thing I liked on that car,
> (other
> > than the body color, but then Im partial to that.....color) ;)

> 


=====
the flashfire
262 880 4570


__________________________________






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
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Subject: Re: colors
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:06:38 -0600

> my girlfriend has international standard colours she has named herself.
>  woo hoo, one of the many perks of working for a paint factory, LOL.

Well don't leave us in suspense, Blake, what did she name them? "Flashfire
Red"? "Frogeye Green"? Enquiring Minds want to know!
David Lieb






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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:40:27 -0800

> Oh man, that's a mental image I didn't need - Brad in a short blue dress.

And don't forget the living snakeskin boa.

Kate






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: flex-head gear wrench
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:15:26 -0500

My flex-heads are still on back-order at Sears, seems like there was another
store that was in the thread that sold the same units.... Any one remember???


Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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Boy, now THERE'S a visual image I didn't need! :-P
Bill

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

>Speaking of humming...
>
>I AM in need of a "hummer"....any
>volunteers out there! :) Brad?
>
>
>
>
>Cap'n. Bob 
>     '60 :{)






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From "Bert Kleinschmidt" <kleinschmidt at earthlink.net>
To: "Owner spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Brain teaser
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:49:35 -0800

I believe the car hitting the immovable wall would be VERY SLIGHTLY worse,
and here's why.

It is correct that the amount of energy absorbed or dissipated per car is
the same in each situation, but the dynamics of the collision are a bit
different.  Hitting an immovable wall the car has little choice but to stop
by crumpling straight into the wall.  In the two  car case, any imbalance in
mass between the left and right sides of a car (and being identical, both
cars would have the same imbalance) would cause some of the energy to go
into rotation of the two cars after the forward motion had been cancelled.
The energy in the rotation would then be dissipated over a slightly longer
time, resulting in somewhat less deceleration.

Since any side to side imbalance in the mass of each car would tend to cause
rotation in the same direction of the combined cars, I believe there would
be much more rotation involved in the two car case.  In the wall case, no
significant rotation of the car could take place because the wall is
immovable.

If each car was perfectly balance left to right (and the steering geometry
changes as the cars crumpled did not cause them to spin or glance off each
other) then the collisions would be equal.

Bert Kleinschmidt
---------
A car hits an immovable wall at 40 MPH.

The same car hits its identical twin car, each going
40 MPH, head on.

Which collision is worse, and why?

Answer tomorrow.  First correct answer wins 2 broken
lift-the-dot fasteners and a rusty pitted lifter.






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   "Robert E. Shlafer"
  <PilotRob@webtv.net>
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:43:27 -0500

ok so i see it's definitly winter time once again!  LOL!  :)
here we go again folks!  but then again, we go here evry year....right?  
(so much for global warming)

chuck.  :)
-----Original Message-----
From Bill McLeod <wbmcleod at cox.net>
To: Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm


>Boy, now THERE'S a visual image I didn't need! :-P
>Bill






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:58:11 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 05:56:09 -0600

"with you as the truth seeker

Oh, Great...

Now we find out the real definition of
"crushable"




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:07:03 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
Cc: wbmcleod@cox.net (Bill McLeod), spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget
  List)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  21 Jan 2004 06:43:27 -0500

Yeah...

It's Jan/Feb.

"Hibernation" time. Now Brad will pipe
up and tell us about how it's sunny and
65 in Texas and he's driving around with
the top down....I hope his snake attacks
him. :(




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: <PilotRob@webtv.net>, <cfchrist@earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:13:46 -0800
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Well, then I'll beat him to the punch and say that it was sunny and 85
in Puerto Rico while I was there. I even saw one LBC, a rubber bumper
MGB, on my way into Ponce. Ironically, the top was up. But the drive
across the island was great, with wonderful mountain switchbacks to
drive. Great LBC roads! I didn't drive them as fast as I may have wanted
to as a) I didn't know the road, b) I was following an old Mazda pickup,
and c) I didn't want to give my mother-in-law a heart attack, as she was
in the back seat. :)
 
Actually, I saw maybe a total of about half a dozen softops down there,
and only one with the top down. I guess peolpe in PR would rather stay
cool in their cars with A/C!
 
But don't hate me - I'm back enjoying this wonderful weather in the
Northeast...
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: 1/21/2004 8:05:03 AM
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net
Cc: wbmcleod@cox.net;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm 

Yeah... 

It's Jan/Feb. 

"Hibernation" time. Now Brad will pipe 
up and tell us about how it's sunny and 
65 in Texas and he's driving around with 
the top down....I hope his snake attacks 
him. :( 




Cap'n. Bob 
'60 :{) 






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:19:08 -0500 (EST)
To: wbmcleod@cox.net (Bill McLeod)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 22:15:51 -0700

"Now THERE's a visual image...."

Why Bill...whatever do you mean? }80<-




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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:34:47 -0500 (EST)
To: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales)
Cc: refisk@chartermi.net (Rick Fisk), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:40:27 -0800

"And don't forget the living snakeskin
boa"

Omigod....(bad idea, huh?:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:54:07 -0500 (EST)
To: psychalgia@rocketmail.com (the flashfire)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: colors
  20 Jan 2004 19:39:50 -0800 (PST)

Wait a damn minute, Flash...

I cannot be fooled..."woo, woo" is NOT
a color. I looked it up in the urban
dictionary and it's not there...this is 
a SCAM!! <VBG>




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:59:33 -0500 (EST)
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 05:13:46 -0800

Hi, Chris...

We got the place to ourselves this
AM, obviously.

Welcome back and wish I was there
and you had stayed here!!! :):)

Your timing was excellent. Must be great
to be back in the cold, eh? (yeeeech!:).

Well...March 1st is right around the
corner (c'mon March!:).

Time to run...c'ya! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE (HP-Boise,ex1)" <cyrille at hp.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Brain teaser
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:48:58 -0800

Hello,

>it's black as night usually is and.....
>all the lights fail 5 miles South of 
>ALB (or maybe it was
>just the headlights. Long time ago!). 

>I "tucked in" right behind an 18 wheeler 
Do you mean "Trucked in" :-)

>and stayed there for two hours or so,
>'til we hit Newburg where little snow, good
>roads, plenty of light and a large hot,
>black coffee awaited....changed fuses.

>(There was no short. The new fuse and lights worked fine for many years
thereafter).

You have me confused here, on my car, the lights are not on a fuse, they are
linked directly to the battery through the light switch, but are not fused
(apart from the 1 off beams that you use to flash peoples which is on a 15A
fuse that keeps blowing because that said switch is faulty and is more or
less continuously on, causing the high beams to be continuously on, causing
high current, causing the said fuse to blow)...

Regards, Cyrille






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From John Mac <nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Crane EI - Final Decision
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

I would like to thank everyone who responded for
taking the time to assist me with my Crane ingnition
decision.  I will be ordering the XR700 for my MGB
this week.

Thanks again,

John MacDonald
Bedford, NH
70 B
59 Bugeye

> 
> Hey All,
> 
> I've decided on the Crane electronic ingition for my
> 70B, but should I get the XR700 or the XR3000?  Just
> looking for some biased opinions.  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John MacDonald
> 70B
> 59 Sprite
> +28 F in the garage today!


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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Peter can test something similar.  Take 2 curling
stones, throw 'em at the same speed, see how far they
ricochet.  Take one stone, have Miss Beloit, WI hold
it (if she reflects the general population, she
probably weighs 350+ pounds), throw a stone at the
Miss Beloit-held stone at the same speed as previous
test, see how far it ricochets.

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com> wrote:
> Example, in my line of work if I take a board
> (movable) and smash it 
> into another board alreaddy nailed up,(immovable)
> the smasher will most 
> likely snap off where the smashee will most likely
> look the same.
> If I take those same 2 boards and smash them
> together, I made "clap" 
> boards and get a loud noise and still have 2 good
> boards.



=====
Ron Soave

"But you don't really know me."
- Bruce Springsteen, after a fan screamed "We Love You, Bruce!"

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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Brain teaser
To: Bill L <pythias@pacifier.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

My turn to be wrong, maybe:

Off the cuff, the weight of the car / 4 will be force
exerted on each tire.  The weight is a force.  The
force the each tire has to act against is the same in
both cases.  Force = pressure x area.  If the force is
the same and the pressure is the same, the area has to
be the same.

Is it racing season yet ;-).

--- Bill L <pythias@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Hello Ron,
> 
>         and now for another brain teaser .....
> 
>         assuming that the tires are to be filled to
> the exact same
>         tire pressure, which puts more rubber on the
> road, a tall
>         skinny tire, (like a 165/80/13) or a short
> fat tire, (like a
>         205/50/15)?  of course on the same car.


=====
Ron Soave

"But you don't really know me."
- Bruce Springsteen, after a fan screamed "We Love You, Bruce!"

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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: colors
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

werd, this is circus atari up in here.

--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net> wrote:
> Wait a damn minute, Flash...
> 
> I cannot be fooled..."woo, woo" is NOT
> a color. I looked it up in the urban
> dictionary and it's not there...this is 
> a SCAM!! <VBG>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cap'n. Bob 
>      '60 :{)
> 


=====
the flashfire
262 880 4570


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From Lester Ewing <lewing at sport.rr.com>
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:14:34 -0600

On Jan 21, 2004, at 7:59 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> Hi, Chris...
>
snip
>
> Well...March 1st is right around the
> corner (c'mon March!:).

Left .. right..  left... right...

I don' know but it's been said

Air Force wings are made of lead

I am sure 'cause it's been told

Navy wings are made of Gold..

..left ..right..

sorry.. don't know what came over me...

Lester

'59 .. soon..


>
> Time to run...c'ya! :)
>
>
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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From Lester Ewing <lewing at sport.rr.com>
Subject: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:16:56 -0600

Ok,   so I'm new to the list and new to Bugeye's  and a few questions 
come to mind:

Are Judson Superchargers worth $ `1200.00 complete  and

Is it worth it to do the Rivergate transmission update to the Datsun 
210?

Thanks all,

Lester

'59 soon..






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From SDOliner at aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:25:20 EST
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/21/2004 12:18:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
lewing@sport.rr.com writes:

> Are Judson Superchargers worth $ `1200.00 complete  and
> 

That is in the range of what they go for. More trouble than they are worth. 
Overheating is a big issue. Better off with a 1275.


> Is it worth it to do the Rivergate transmission update to the Datsun 
> 210?
> 

Yes. Rivergate or if you like to support the list Paul A has a kit equal to 
if not better than Rivergate. You can Paul up, when you lose that essential 
piece in the garage, and he will tell you what color box to look for. (Ask me how 
I know)

David Oliner






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero@yahoo.com>, "Bill L" <pythias@pacifier.com>,
   <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Brain teaser
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:43:15 -0500

sebring is mid march!  so it's prepare for racing ....season!  :)
my race car is already loaded on the trailer for sebring!  (talk about being
ready for the new season to start...or what?)  now comes my new driver's
suit! with over 200lbs. lost to date my old suit was cut down a year ago and
it's huge on me!  so i am waiting for the arival of a new suit being made
and shipped here by a very-very interested party!  (can we say sponsor?
yes! children i knew that you could!) *grin*(and financially relieved!  the
new suit would not be happening if it were coming out of my empty pockets!)

chuck.
i've gone pro-weasel!  ROFLMAO!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: Bill L <pythias@pacifier.com>; spridgets@autox.team.net
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Brain teaser


>My turn to be wrong, maybe:
>
>Off the cuff, the weight of the car / 4 will be force
>exerted on each tire.  The weight is a force.  The
>force the each tire has to act against is the same in
>both cases.  Force = pressure x area.  If the force is
>the same and the pressure is the same, the area has to
>be the same.
>
>Is it racing season yet ;-).






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: <SDOliner@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:58:27 -0500

hey LESTER!
call paul up  for da trans stuff!   you'll be pleased with the service!

chuck.
saab...volvo...what ever....(VBG!)   :)
-----Original Message-----
From SDOliner at aol.com <SDOliner@aol.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...


>In a message dated 1/21/2004 12:18:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>lewing@sport.rr.com writes:
>
>> Are Judson Superchargers worth $ `1200.00 complete  and
>>
>
>That is in the range of what they go for. More trouble than they are worth.
>Overheating is a big issue. Better off with a 1275.
>
>
>> Is it worth it to do the Rivergate transmission update to the Datsun
>> 210?
>>
>
>Yes. Rivergate or if you like to support the list Paul A has a kit equal to
>if not better than Rivergate. You can Paul up, when you lose that essential
>piece in the garage, and he will tell you what color box to look for. (Ask
me how
>I know)
>
>David Oliner






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From "DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE (HP-Boise,ex1)" <cyrille at hp.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Heater control valve
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:59:50 -0500

Hello,

I am looking for a part for my 78 midget:
- there is a valve that controls the amount of coolant fluid that goes
through the radiator in the heater box of the midget. It is located at the
left of the said heater box and has to be opened manually to get air heated
in the car.

My valve is leaking, and Victoria British does not appears to sell the said
valve.
Does anyone has a spare that they are willing to sell?

Ps: I believe that in the sprite/spitfire, this valve is activated from the
cockpit through a cable, these 2 parts appears to be interchangeable, I
would settle for any of them.

Thanks, Cyrille






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From "Gary  & Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
To: "Lester Ewing" <lewing@sport.rr.com>,
   "Spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <9D375234-4C35-11D8-8AA4-000A95771166@sport.rr.com>
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:26:33 -0800

I can't advise you on the Judson, because my cars have always gone fast
enough without one.
On the 5 speed, I will be getting one as soon as my nearly new ribcase needs
replacment, but I plan to buy mine from Paul A. of the list. He's a heck of
a nice guy, and I've heard nothing but good about his conversion.
Kate






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: <SDOliner@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <162.2abfa840.2d401000@aol.com>
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:09:17 -0500

Dont' know about the supercharger, but I sure as heck will second his
recommendation on Paul A's Datsun tranny kit!!!!!!

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From <SDOliner at aol.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...


> In a message dated 1/21/2004 12:18:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> lewing@sport.rr.com writes:
>
> > Are Judson Superchargers worth $ `1200.00 complete  and
> >
>
> That is in the range of what they go for. More trouble than they are worth.
> Overheating is a big issue. Better off with a 1275.
>
>
> > Is it worth it to do the Rivergate transmission update to the Datsun
> > 210?
> >
>
> Yes. Rivergate or if you like to support the list Paul A has a kit equal to
> if not better than Rivergate. You can Paul up, when you lose that essential
> piece in the garage, and he will tell you what color box to look for. (Ask me
how
> I know)
>
> David Oliner






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:16:39 -0800

I can't speak to the value of a supercharger, but I can add my voice to the
chorus of support for the 5-speed conversion kit that Paul Asgeirsson sells
for the Datsun 210/spridget conversion.

Well made, fits great, works great.

I was just at the Pick-and-Pull two days ago and there were three 210's
sitting there.  All trannies stripped.  It seems that someone is picking
them off very quickly and passing them on to MiniMania to include with their
conversion kits. (I think theirs is the Rivergate kit).

Glen






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From "Bill Hunt" <Billh at aaai.com>
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> I was just at the Pick-and-Pull two days ago and there were three
210's
sitting there.  All trannies stripped.  It seems that someone is picking
them off very quickly and passing them on to MiniMania to include with
their
conversion kits. (I think theirs is the Rivergate kit).<

There was a guy selling them on ebay occasionally who is somewhere in
the Sac area. Haven't seen any listings in awhile and I don't remember
the user name. Had a "Go Kings!" tag in his ads. Don't know if he was a
list member. 

Herby
64 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
billh@aaai.com
http://www.herbytoys.com






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: colors
To: Jay Fishbein <type79@ix.netcom.com>,
   Spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- Jay Fishbein <type79@ix.netcom.com> wrote: 
> Seriously though, I've never met or spoken with
> Hayes Harris who 
> operates this dealership 

Hayes is a good guy.  I used to slum around his shop
when I lived in FL.

=====
Ron Soave

"But you don't really know me."
- Bruce Springsteen, after a fan screamed "We Love You, Bruce!"

__________________________________






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Brain teaser
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Cc: wsthompson@thicko.com

--- Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net> wrote:
> suit! with over 200lbs. lost to date my old suit was
> cut down a year ago and
> it's huge on me!  

chuck,
that's a very excellent problem to have, congrats
again!  you know, if you turned the old suit into a
nomex canopy, you'd probably be the 1st on your block,
and Gary Kropf of Team Thicko will go out and buy one.

=====
Ron Soave

"But you don't really know me."
- Bruce Springsteen, after a fan screamed "We Love You, Bruce!"

__________________________________






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Heater Control
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:10:36 -0500

Think I saw one in the Moss book.  I'll check when I return to work on
Friday.


Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Flex-Heads
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:14:50 -0500

Went looking for them today, again,, NAPA had a set but wanted $100 per set
for them.  Our Famr and Fleet was bought out by Tractor Suppy Co a few years
ago and never thoght of checking there.  Went back to Sears, and lord and be
hold, my back order was in.  Only paid $59 per set for them.  Now if my my
bench and drawer set would arrive.

Thanks for the replies,,


Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Lester Ewing" <lewing@sport.rr.com>,
   "Spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <9D375234-4C35-11D8-8AA4-000A95771166@sport.rr.com>
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:22:34 -0600

> Are Judson Superchargers worth $ `1200.00 complete?

No. You are better off with a built 1275. The Judson does not appear to
accomplish much of anything on today's gasoline.

> Is it worth it to do the Rivergate transmission update to the Datsun
> 210?

I am putting one on my 1972 Midget. People have told me that this is one of
the best things that they ever did to their Spridget.
You will run quieter at lower rpm with better gas mileage; what's not to
like?

David Lieb
1972 RWA Midget
2002 GTI for Trish to beat me at autocross with






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Brain teaser, shrunken chuck?
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:49:51 -0500

>i was asked by bob fairbanks of "back marker" racing, if i would give it
(my
>old suit) to him to use as a car cover for his mini!  but all kidding aside
>i did have it cut down a year ago and it's still too big!  i think i'm
going
>to keep it for what might be for ever or as long as i see fit, to remind me
>of where i was at one time in my life!    having once (just over 2 years
>ago) weighed 453lbs to look at me now you would never know that!   but if
>you know or have met me prior to this loss,  now at certain events people i
>have known for a long time and have not seen frequently will walk right
past
>me and honestly do not recognise me at all!  they tell me that they are
>shocked and some even ask me if i'm "alright", like i might be sick with
>something like cancer!  you have no idea how darn (being politically
>polite!) shocked i AM!  size 58 / 60 waist pants to 36 / 38 now!   i'm
still
>trying to adjust to who is looking back at me in a mirror as i still see
>myself as i did for the last 30(that i was overweight) some odd years of my
>life!  look on the bright side(if yer gonna see it that weigh!) !  i'm
>planning to hang around and bother evryone for a lot longer than i was
going
>to at the rate i was going at!  *huge mother grin*
>
>chuck
>celebrating 30 years with the same darn bugeye this year!  and!  now for
the
>first time in my life i fit in it too!  :)
>Subject: Re: Re[2]: Brain teaser
>>> suit! with over 200lbs. lost to date my old suit was
>>> cut down a year ago and
>>> it's huge on me!
>>
>>chuck,
>>that's a very excellent problem to have, congrats
>>again!  you know, if you turned the old suit into a
>>nomex canopy, you'd probably be the 1st on your block,
>>and Gary Kropf of Team Thicko will go out and buy one.
>>
>>=====
>>Ron Soave






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:15:57 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
Cc: soavero@yahoo.com (Ron Soave), pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L),
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Brain teaser
  21 Jan 2004 12:43:15 -0500

Old Suit

Second Ron's suggestion:
Nomex canopy! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:18:32 -0500 (EST)
To: lewing@sport.rr.com (Lester Ewing)
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 11:14:34 -0600

"I don't know but it's been said"

LMAO, Lester! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <cyrille@hp.com>, <cyrille@hp.com>, <cyrille@hp.com>,
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Sprite, no, but Spitfire, yes. Check out www.spitbits.com
<http://www.spitbits.com/>  or www.rimmerbros.co.uk
<http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/>  for good sources for Spit parts.
 
-=Chris


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE
\(HP-Boise,ex1\);DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE
\(HP-Boise,ex1\);DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE \(HP-Boise,ex1\)
Sent: 1/21/2004 12:58:50 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Heater control valve 

Hello, 

I am looking for a part for my 78 midget: 
- there is a valve that controls the amount of coolant fluid that goes 
through the radiator in the heater box of the midget. It is located at
the 
left of the said heater box and has to be opened manually to get air
heated 
in the car. 

My valve is leaking, and Victoria British does not appears to sell the
said 
valve. 
Does anyone has a spare that they are willing to sell? 

Ps: I believe that in the sprite/spitfire, this valve is activated from
the 
cockpit through a cable, these 2 parts appears to be interchangeable, I 
would settle for any of them. 

Thanks, Cyrille 






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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:23:45 -0800
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One of the minor things that amazed me on my trip to Puerto Rico was the
number of Datsun 210s still on the road. I saw probably about a dozen or
so, in various states of repair. I don't know how many have 5 speeds,
but it was intresting, as one never sees any up here in the northeast
rust-belt. There were also quite a few RWD Corollas around too.
 
-=Chris


<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Glen Byrns
Sent: 1/21/2004 1:15:39 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies... 

I can't speak to the value of a supercharger, but I can add my voice to
the 
chorus of support for the 5-speed conversion kit that Paul Asgeirsson
sells 
for the Datsun 210/spridget conversion. 

Well made, fits great, works great. 

I was just at the Pick-and-Pull two days ago and there were three 210's 
sitting there. All trannies stripped. It seems that someone is picking 
them off very quickly and passing them on to MiniMania to include with
their 
conversion kits. (I think theirs is the Rivergate kit). 

Glen 






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Subject: Re: Heater control valve
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:28:25 -0800
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Rimmer Bros. corrected link:
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/cgi-bin/rimmer.bat?spitfire/spitfireindx
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Chris King
Sent: 1/21/2004 3:18:27 PM
To:
cyrille@hp.com;cyrille@hp.com;cyrille@hp.com;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Heater control valve 

Sprite, no, but Spitfire, yes. Check out www.spitbits.com 
or www.rimmerbros.co.uk 
for good sources for Spit parts. 

-=Chris 


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

<-----Original Message-----> 

From DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE 
\(HP-Boise,ex1\);DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE 
\(HP-Boise,ex1\);DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE \(HP-Boise,ex1\) 
Sent: 1/21/2004 12:58:50 PM 
To: spridgets@autox.team.net 
Subject: Heater control valve 

Hello, 

I am looking for a part for my 78 midget: 
- there is a valve that controls the amount of coolant fluid that goes 
through the radiator in the heater box of the midget. It is located at 
the 
left of the said heater box and has to be opened manually to get air 
heated 
in the car. 

My valve is leaking, and Victoria British does not appears to sell the 
said 
valve. 
Does anyone has a spare that they are willing to sell? 

Ps: I believe that in the sprite/spitfire, this valve is activated from 
the 
cockpit through a cable, these 2 parts appears to be interchangeable, I 
would settle for any of them. 

Thanks, Cyrille 






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Spidgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: larger alternator
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:38:50 -0500

My Mini has the Lucas 16ACR alternator (Same as on a Spridget, 34A) in it and
with the addition of a lot of lamps it can't keep up.  Lucas 11AC seems to be
the same size, with 43A output.

I know alternator swaps have been discussed, but the archives don't seem to
have anything on outputs of various transplantable models.  Does anyone have
any specifics?

TIA

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:52:45 -0500 (EST)
To: lewing@sport.rr.com (Lester Ewing)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
  2004 11:16:56 -0600

Lester: Judson & 5-speed (IMHO!:)

Yes, the blowers in and of themselves are
worth it but...we no longer have the octanes readily available to run
them, unless you are using 100RON+ racing gas. Otherwise, they are
strictly period
items for show cars.

The Judson and ( it's British cousin)
Shorrocks were originally intended
for the original low compression (8.3-1)
motors during the days wherein 100+RON
leaded gasolines were readily available.

If you can perfect an alcohol/water delivery system for one, than the
readily
available (at reasonable prices!) modern day lower octane premiums would
be
compatible, most especially with compression ratios below 8.5-1.

As to vane type blowers, you are better
off with the Shorrocks for two reasons.

1. The Judson runs "interference" fit blades or vanes. The Shorrock's
run
"clearanced".....MUCH less heating
of the A/F charge with the Shorrocks.

2. While the Shorrock's bearings require
lubrication (off the engine's regular oil
supply), it's vanes do not. Thus, there
is little oil injested into he combustion
chamber with the A/F mixture.

OTOH:
The Judson requires it's own discreet
oil system to supply lubrication to the
blower's bore in view of it's interference
fit vanes. This oil is ingested into the
combustion process as part of the A/F
charge at the rate of about a quart every
500-700 miles. Oil dilutes octanes, and
high compression motors (supercharged)
need all the octanes they can get. 

Considering the foregoing, you are much
better off upgrading to a 1275, either
stock or "tuned" to the extent you feel required for your application,
most
especially in the case of a car used as
a daily driver.

The Datsun 5 speed conversion is a 
winner. NO drawbacks...NONE. It's
ALL positive. It is better clearanced...
runs more quietly (by far), cooler and
absorbs less HP generally speaking.

First gear sychro. and the 5th gear 
speak for themselves as advantages.

Also, the first three gears of the Datsun
box are of slightly lower ratio than the
ribcase boxi. Thus, a higher rear axle
ratio may be used with sacrificing
acceleration, while at the same time
positively affecting lower rpm cruise
in 4th and 5th.

Better yet, rebuilt Datsun 5 speeds are
going for around $600. Today's rebult
Spridget ribcase boxi are going for
US$1,000+.

As can be easily seen:
a win/win upgrade if there every was
one, eh? :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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   "Spidgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: larger alternator

A very common conversion is to use a Bosch alternator that fits Ford 
Fiestas. They are 55 amps. The plug and mount are identical. Good import 
rebuilders offer them as an option.
         One I recommend (and use) is Precision Parts and Remanufacturing. 
www.ppr-ok.com  They may list only the Midget by application. They're 
supplying the alternators without pulleys, but sell them separately. You 
can't use the Lucas pulley and fan on the Bosch.
         The other swaps are to various Japanese vehicles, and all require 
some bracket fiddling.
         Hope this helps.
         Peter C.

At 02:38 PM 1/21/2004, Geoff Branch wrote:
>My Mini has the Lucas 16ACR alternator (Same as on a Spridget, 34A) in it and
>with the addition of a lot of lamps it can't keep up.  Lucas 11AC seems to be
>the same size, with 43A output.
>
>I know alternator swaps have been discussed, but the archives don't seem to
>have anything on outputs of various transplantable models.  Does anyone have
>any specifics?
>
>TIA
>
>Geoff Branch
>'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
>'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini






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   "Geoff Branch"
  <gjbranch@comcast.net>,
   "Spidgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: larger alternator
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:24:50 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Try www.pprok.com.  No dash needed.

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>; "Spidgets"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: larger alternator


> A very common conversion is to use a Bosch alternator that fits Ford
> Fiestas. They are 55 amps. The plug and mount are identical. Good import
> rebuilders offer them as an option.
>          One I recommend (and use) is Precision Parts and Remanufacturing.
> www.ppr-ok.com  They may list only the Midget by application. They're
> supplying the alternators without pulleys, but sell them separately. You
> can't use the Lucas pulley and fan on the Bosch.
>          The other swaps are to various Japanese vehicles, and all require
> some bracket fiddling.
>          Hope this helps.
>          Peter C.
>
> At 02:38 PM 1/21/2004, Geoff Branch wrote:
> >My Mini has the Lucas 16ACR alternator (Same as on a Spridget, 34A) in it
and
> >with the addition of a lot of lamps it can't keep up.  Lucas 11AC seems
to be
> >the same size, with 43A output.
> >
> >I know alternator swaps have been discussed, but the archives don't seem
to
> >have anything on outputs of various transplantable models.  Does anyone
have
> >any specifics?
> >
> >TIA
> >
> >Geoff Branch
> >'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
> >'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:50:38 -0500 (EST)
To: cyrille@hp.com (DE-BREBISSON,CYRILLE \(HP-Boise,ex1\))
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Brain teaser
  message of Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:48:58 -0800

Well, Cyrille...

It was a long time ago on a '74 Spridget
with a four fuse box...so I am not sure,
myself!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[4]: Brain teaser
References: <165577132.20040120135758@pacifier.com>
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Hello Ron,

       absolutely correct! the same tire pressure supports the same
       weight, ergo, the same amount of rubber on the road. the
       contact patch is different, and the sidewalls will show
       different loading charachteristics, the the AREA is the same in
       both cases.




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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From "Michael W. Jose" <michaelwjose at hotmail.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: hmmmmmmmmmm
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:07:22 -0700
  FILETIME=[65B50FF0:01C3E07B]

<Well, then I'll beat him to the punch and say that it was sunny and 85
in Puerto Rico while I was there. >

Maybe then I shouldn't say anything about driving my B this morning 
in the rain, and then home again (only around 70 this afternoon, but 
it's been more like 75 the past two weeks.) Going to Barrett-Jackson
this weekend, which always has lots of nice cars to gawk at (and a 
few real nasty ones to shudder at, too). Excuse me, I have to go 
open a window now... a little stuffy in here...
Mike Jose
79 B jealous wife
66 Sprite slowly coming to life if I'd stop injuring myself
Chandler AZ






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From "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Subject: Puzzler

OK, so here's a new puzzle as it looks like you guys and gals enjoy them.

Two cars are identical and sitting on an incline that is adjustable. One 
car has skinny little tires while the other one has huge skins, but all 
tires have the same coefficient of friction. The cars weigh exactly the same.

The parking brakes are set on both cars.

The incline is raised on one end until the car or cars begin to slide. 
Which one will slide first?

[The answer is that they will both slide at the same time because static 
friction is not area (of the tires) dependent. The key factors are the 
coefficient of friction and the weight of the object for static friction - 
not area.]

If the above is so, then why do race cars have big tires?

[The answer is that dynamic friction is a whole different critter. Size 
does matter here. Just think about it this way. Say you are pushing a full 
file cabinet or refrigerator. It takes quite a bit of effort to get the 
thing moving, but once it is moving, it is easier to keep it moving. You 
have crossed the boundary from static friction rules to dynamic friction 
rules.]

Students have a hard time with this at first, but I know this group will 
pick up on this right away! <grin>

Tim






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: If Not a Judson, why not NOS? (funny)
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

If you don't want to go with a Judson, maybe you can
try a NOS system.  From the Healey list:

--- HoYo <hoyo@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> From: "HoYo" <hoyo@bellsouth.net>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Fw: NOS Install - off-topic, but funny. 
> Way too funny
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:54:08 -0600
> 
> Hi Healiers,
>   ok, so I won't be an old maw-maw, I won't jump on
> the S bandwagon,but
> submit that other owner-lists can be quite
> vicious.........for your
> perusal............
>                                                     
>                   HoYo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JJJ" <m1garand@speakeasy.net>
> To: "mgb-v8 list" <mgb-v8@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:24 AM
> Subject: NOS Install - off-topic, but funny. Way too
> funny
> 
> 
> > This is a classic example of "more money than
> brains".  There are three
> > pages to this thread, and you should read them
> all.  You have to scroll to
> > the bottom of the page to find the arrows to view
> pages 2 and 3.
> >
> >
>
http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174075&
> > perpage=25&amp;p
> >
> > James J.


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From Dean Hedin <dhedin at ieee.org>
To: Lester Ewing <lewing@sport.rr.com>, Spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: ..speaking of Superchargers and Datsun trannies...
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:50:54 +0000
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On Wednesday 21 January 2004 05:16 pm, Lester Ewing wrote:

I can't help you on the Rivergate,  but I would like to upgrade to the Datsun 
trany very soon.

With regard to the Judson, I don't think I would pay $1200 unless it was an
NOS complete kit and I was putting together a concours level car on which to 
install it.

If you are intrigued by the performance aspect of supercharging, then you 
should look for a servicable used unit at a lower price.   

The reason I say this is that it takes a bit of tweaking to get these to work 
reliably anyway.
   
In my case this was a trial and error endevour over many years and entailed 
converting to an SU carburator and (most recently) installing Torlon vanes.       

I was in no hurry and I enjoyed the tinkering and the learning.  If at times 
things were not working properly I mearly bolted the original twin SU setup 
back on.  

I am happy to say that I now have the unit running reliably and I am looking 
forward to taking some longer excursions with the car.   I really want to see 
how the car performs at high altitude (like in the Rockies).

Of course, I don't want to do a cross county until I install a 5 speed.






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To: thcollin@mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Puzzler
  21 Jan 2004 19:52:11 -0500

What the f...! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Puzzler
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:00:57 -0600
  with any abuse report

so with that in mind, why are lightened flywheels beneficial?  quickness?
rather, than top speed/sustained speed?

MAYBE I perceive (cap'n)

-----Original Message-----
From Timothy H. Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:52 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Puzzler


OK, so here's a new puzzle as it looks like you guys and gals enjoy them.

Two cars are identical and sitting on an incline that is adjustable. One
car has skinny little tires while the other one has huge skins, but all
tires have the same coefficient of friction. The cars weigh exactly the
same.

The parking brakes are set on both cars.

The incline is raised on one end until the car or cars begin to slide.
Which one will slide first?

[The answer is that they will both slide at the same time because static
friction is not area (of the tires) dependent. The key factors are the
coefficient of friction and the weight of the object for static friction -
not area.]

If the above is so, then why do race cars have big tires?

[The answer is that dynamic friction is a whole different critter. Size
does matter here. Just think about it this way. Say you are pushing a full
file cabinet or refrigerator. It takes quite a bit of effort to get the
thing moving, but once it is moving, it is easier to keep it moving. You
have crossed the boundary from static friction rules to dynamic friction
rules.]

Students have a hard time with this at first, but I know this group will
pick up on this right away! <grin>






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To: "Spidgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20040121150442.0217f860@mailbag.com>
  <011201c3e065$01ee0280$0300a8c0@PaulAsgeirsson>
Subject: Updates!!!
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:24:03 -0600

Toyman (etal):

Ed has some NEW stuff on site which include (List O' Links) a couple of A-H
Calendars to which you should pay SPECIAL attention to!!!!

www.justbrits.com

Really gives ANOTHER reason for Sprite (Midgets also welcome) to JOIN (or
re-join -:) )

j.






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Who else is working on their Spridget?

I am still plugging along on the Bugeye.
This time I am finishing everything before I fire it up
Except the interior.
The brakes are done, pedal hard.
Clutch seems to have pressure too.
Engine and trans in, fluids installed.
Fuel system & carbs went on tonight along with most of the exhaust 
system. I didn't stick a muffler on it yet.
Dizzy is all tuned up and bolted in.
Wiring close, no dash just yet. (that's part of the interior)
Wheels painted and bolted on.

So tomorrow night I can put some gas in it, fire it up, drop it off the 
jack stands, back it out of the garage, and take a ride around the 
block! I hope. It works on paper.
I mean this car was "by the book" Carbs rebuilt and set at 15 flats, 
dizzy reconditioned and clamped tight where the timing should be.
Hydraulics all new with fresh silicone fluid. Gas and go right?
Now if it starts, and runs decent, and the clutch and tranny works,
And there are no leaks, maybe I can move the car. And if I did all my 
shop work correctly, maybe I can stop the car :)

I want to thank Greg Higgins on his brake line for mechanical fuel pump
fittings. It worked like a charm. 5/16 brake line from the auto parts 
store and a couple of 5/16 furrles (olives) for the pipe, cut it, bend 
it to suit, and it even amazed the guy at Advanced Auto.

Now my problem....This Sprite is turning out too nice to sell!
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:05:15 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com (Wm. Thompson)
Cc: thcollin@mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: RE: Puzzler
  Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:00:57 -0600

Affirmatron, Willy!  

acceleration....

It "feels like" changing
from a pair of boots to a pair of sneakers,
or from heavier to lighter wheels as in a decrease in unsprung
weight.."peppier"




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Previous Owners,,,Gotta Love them ??
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:09:40 -0500

My 12 yr old son summed it up perfectly!!!

"Dad, working on the Midget is just like Monster Garage on TV, everytime you
think you have a problem solved we find another...."

Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: re: hmmmmmm

per Dap'n Bob...
>> Now Brad will pipe up and tell us about how it's sunny and
65 in Texas and he's driving around with the top down...

  Well it sure was fun ridin' around Keene, TX with him -last- winter. :-)
  Ed in NC






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From Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net

My solution is to put the new parts (suspension, interior, tires, etc.) on the car I intend to keep and put the used but still good parts on the car to be sold.

Wish I could do that with the paint.

 - Kendel in Tucson

'72 RWA Midget (driver)
'77 Midget (in prep for paint)
'70 MGB-GT (collecting parts for rebuild)
'77 MGB (with for sale sign mounted)

<* ahem *> the sig, sadly, continues...

'71 Datsun 510 (partially dissassembled for bodywork)
'71 Datsun 510 (project for sale)
'71 Datsun 510 (four door salvage car for parts)
'74 Datsun 260Z (just purchased and delivered yesterday)


-----Original Message-----
From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
Sent: Jan 21, 2004 7:51 PM
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Who else is working on their Spridget?

I am still plugging along on the Bugeye.
This time I am finishing everything before I fire it up
Except the interior.
The brakes are done, pedal hard.
Clutch seems to have pressure too.
Engine and trans in, fluids installed.
Fuel system & carbs went on tonight along with most of the exhaust 
system. I didn't stick a muffler on it yet.
Dizzy is all tuned up and bolted in.
Wiring close, no dash just yet. (that's part of the interior)
Wheels painted and bolted on.

So tomorrow night I can put some gas in it, fire it up, drop it off the 
jack stands, back it out of the garage, and take a ride around the 
block! I hope. It works on paper.
I mean this car was "by the book" Carbs rebuilt and set at 15 flats, 
dizzy reconditioned and clamped tight where the timing should be.
Hydraulics all new with fresh silicone fluid. Gas and go right?
Now if it starts, and runs decent, and the clutch and tranny works,
And there are no leaks, maybe I can move the car. And if I did all my 
shop work correctly, maybe I can stop the car :)

I want to thank Greg Higgins on his brake line for mechanical fuel pump
fittings. It worked like a charm. 5/16 brake line from the auto parts 
store and a couple of 5/16 furrles (olives) for the pipe, cut it, bend 
it to suit, and it even amazed the guy at Advanced Auto.

Now my problem....This Sprite is turning out too nice to sell!
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Jack Stands
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:36:30 -0500

Frank you give me hope that the Mutant's tires might feel a hard surface under
them some day.....

I'm still trying to get the rear FIAT brake lines on. The only bubble flare
lines I can find have metric threads, which I need 3/16 standard. Can find
adapters for standard flared ends to the bubble but the nipple on the end is
too long and threads wont take hold. I have went all the auto parts stores and
they claim they can't make what I need and claim they can't order them
either... The PO who converted it over to FIAT used metric threads and a lot
of will power to tighten them up... He just over powered them until they were
stripped and tight...

Previous Owners and Jack Stands.... You just gotta love them

Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Wm. Thompson" <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>,
   "Timothy H. Collins"
  <thcollin@mtu.edu>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:41:20 -0500

a flywheel is calculated (weight wise) to keep the rotating mass "rotating"
against the drag of clutch engaugement during an initial start from standing
stop.  lightening it like in our morgan race car to next to nothing makes it
somewhat tough to get going from a standing start without stalling it out.
but reducing the rotating mass decreases the amount of horse power it
consumes to get rotating putting more power to the rear as opposed to the
amount of energy consumed getting that mass into motion.   that also
translates to a quicker revving engine too.   and in a race car it is a
significant reduction in weight too!
remember that between the flywheel and the rear wheels an incredible amount
of horse power is consumed in friction between gears and weights of rotating
masses and the friction in bearings.  so any way you can reduce that is a
gain to available power at the driven wheels.   if you have a 100HP engine
you are not puting out 100HP atthe wheels, and if you dyno at 100HP at the
wheels on a chassis dyno you have more than 100HP being produced by that
motor.    my race saab has 847cc's and chassis dynos at 39.1HP atthe wheels.
and on a long straight i can reach the 100mph point around 7500rpm on the 3
cylinder 2 stroke!
yes, and that is with a lightened flywheel too!  :)

chuck.

-----Original Message-----
From Wm. Thompson <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: Timothy H. Collins <thcollin@mtu.edu>
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: Puzzler


>so with that in mind, why are lightened flywheels beneficial?  quickness?
>rather, than top speed/sustained speed?






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Marco" <mardep5@adelphia.net>, "spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Jack Stands
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:52:23 -0500

a tubing cutter and a flaring tool do wonders ..right about "here".

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Marco <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: Jack Stands


>Frank you give me hope that the Mutant's tires might feel a hard surface
under
>them some day.....
>
>I'm still trying to get the rear FIAT brake lines on. The only bubble flare
>lines I can find have metric threads, which I need 3/16 standard. Can find
>adapters for standard flared ends to the bubble but the nipple on the end
is
>too long and threads wont take hold. I have went all the auto parts stores
and
>they claim they can't make what I need and claim they can't order them
>either... The PO who converted it over to FIAT used metric threads and a
lot
>of will power to tighten them up... He just over powered them until they
were
>stripped and tight...
>
>Previous Owners and Jack Stands.... You just gotta love them
>
>Marco
>79 Mutant Midget






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: flaring tool
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:59:48 -0500

Sounds great if I can find one. Parts stores claim they only can get one that
does a standard flare.

Marco






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels
To: Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

is it wise then, charles, to couple a lightened flywheel with a
clampier clutch, stage 2 or 3?

--- Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net> wrote:


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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Flaring Tool
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:43:50 -0500

Harbor Freight has a tool that does double compression flares but no ISO
Bubble..

Guess tomorrow will be tool shopping day,, again.

Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'Glen Byrns'" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE:Pick-N_Pull
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:45:33 -0800

Glen, They are guys from MiniMania that are pulling them all at
Pick-N-Pull, a couple of years ago when I was hitting all the P-N-P's I
ran into them in Oakland.  They sure were mad because I had 6 in my
truck to their 2!  The best yard in Sac was the south one, but my
favorite one was Rocklin, not only were the Datsun's up front I almost
always got at least 2 there (now that the secret is out I guess I don't
need to go there again).  The best one I ever got was in Fairfield, the
car had 30,000 miles and had been smashed in the front and rear in a
crash.  Don't even try the Sparks or Carson City ones as I visit at
least once a week and the only 210's with trannys will be automatics or
4-speeds.  Now if your looking for a 5-speed go once a week to one of
the yards as they change cars all the time, mark the rows you have
checked and you will get one. You just need to decide if time or money
is more important to you.  Should you go the MiniMania route you need to
read their Ad and rebuild the tranny as most at P-N-P will have between
150k and 250k miles on them.  I forget what they are asking for them,
but add the price of the rebuild or even just the kit, and I would
either buy the tranny rebuilt from Paul or Rivergate.  Otherwise
remember it is not just a 5-speed it is an adventure.
		Crash


I was just at the Pick-and-Pull two days ago and there were three 210's
sitting there.  All trannies stripped.  It seems that someone is picking
them off very quickly and passing them on to MiniMania to include with
their
conversion kits. (I think theirs is the Rivergate kit).

Glen






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Bugeye
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:29:59 -0500

Dave,

Great looking BE

Marco






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From Captain Rapture <yup1275 at earthlink.net>
To: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com, Spidgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: re Who else is working on their Spridget - ME! ME!
  x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"

I decided I was bulletproof against the cold and
refitted the head and all that stuff and the car
started! How about that!!!

That 45dcoe is giving me a flat spot the size
of Grand Canyon!  Always had one, but it
seems worse now. Cam + cold I guess.
I will chart the numbers and ask around.
They came from Vizard's second book.

Now I can bundle up (old farts don't like it at
50 degrees ABOVE zero) and drive it. I even
have a scuba head thingy if I get too cold.
Too funny! Maybe I'll glue a fright wig to it.

I can't put the top up - to get out I'm so
big I gotta fall out and crawl. Yikes!
Somebody trade me a 71 tonneau for
the new 67-68 mo$$ one I have, okay?

I spose this fits the thread about how damn
cold it is where you all live. I'm glad it gets
not much colder around here and doesn't
snow every year, quite.

David McCartney
71 Midget
72 Mini PU
69 AA
95 Integra GSR






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From "Greg Gowins" <cartman at rcn.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: LBC report from Scandanavia
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:50:12 +0100
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Hello all,

 

My travels have now taken me to a country I've never been to before,
Finland!  This place is very beautiful, but EXTREMELY cold.  I don't think
I've ever been this cold before in my life.   Last night it was -6 last
night (-22 Celsius for those who understand).    I have a report to make:
There are not any LBCs in Finland.  Not one.  Any.  Nada.  Niente.  I don't
think any combination of thermostat or radiator blocking would keep a
Spridget warm enough to drive.   I don't think there has ever been a
Spridget or any other LBC here.   For a Texas boy, I don't think I could
make it more than a week in this winter wonderland.  

 

Greg






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401210305.i0L35R4o031532@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Brain teaser
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 04:48:50 -0500

Cap'n. Bob wrote:
> (omigod) damage to the 'nad area, most likely! 
> Now this is serious. 

Gordie Howe, on why he never wore a helmet during his 
30-year pro hockey career but always wore a cup: 
"You can always get someone to do your thinking for you."

HTH,
Kent
'56 100 BN2






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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:13:55 -0500 (EST)
To: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com
Cc: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com, spridgets@autox.team.net (Spidgets)
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] re Who else is working on their Spridget -
  ME! ME!
  21 Jan 2004 22:52:56 -0700

David...

A flat spot (most especially with a VP3
Kent 276+ cam) is not unusual with a
45DCOE using the larger 4.5 or 5.0
aux venturi. You will notice this carb
configured for racing uses the smaller
3.5 aux vent which brings the main
system "in" a little earlier in the game.

Was using 1.4+ intake valves and a
VP3 cam.

Noticing this, I changed out my 4.5's
for 3.5's and jetted upwards accordingly
to 145 mains and 175 air correctors while
retaining the 50F9 idle jets the carb
came with.

(Then I rechecked the ign. timing to make
sure I wasn't overadvanced.....not).

Better with the 3.5's.....now
no flat spot on acceleration except
at immediate WOT from idle, so 
went up .05 on
the pump jets. Solved the problem.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:23:39 -0500 (EST)
To: cartman@rcn.com (Greg Gowins)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: LBC report from Scandanavia
  2004 08:50:12 +0100

Gregg...

I once got stuck in Presque Isle, Maine
for a couple of days due to a mechanical
on the aircraft I had been assigned two
days prior. Temp was about -44F WITH
the wind chill factor.

I would have killed myself but the mechs
got the problem fixed in late PM of 2nd
day so we got out of there, headed
South at great speed. 20F in BOS that
evening felt like a heat wave to the extent
it got me thinking about the beach. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:50:47 -0500 (EST)
To: psychalgia@rocketmail.com (the flashfire)
Cc: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels
  21 Jan 2004 20:18:55 -0800 (PST)

Flash...

Correctomundo...
Really lightened flywheels (matter of
extent) and clampier (exent) clutches
not for the street (stop and go) unless you can easily/don't mind more
frequent clutch replacement (which I am sure is what you are thinking?).

However, a slightly lightened flywheel
and slightly grippier clutch (as in my
case and Frank C. runs a lightened
flywheel on his street machine as well
with Kent 276 cam timing)
does make for a peppier street machine
without undue clutch wear.

I've got a Rivergate Datsun disc (very
grippy) on a Rivergate slightly lightened
(by 4-5lbs.) flywheel running a Cooper S cammed (advaced for Metro inlet
timing)
1293. Very quick but engine does not to be revved "abnormally" to get it
initially
off the line.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:00:36 -0500 (EST)
To: conan@intrex.net (conan)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: re: hmmmmmm
  22:23:39 -0500

Yes, Ed!!!

Southern living does have it's advantages
during Dec/Jan/Feb. (even though Brad lives down there!:)

However, it is a balmy 22F outside my
window this morning...(c'mon March!)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: Greg Gowins <cartman@rcn.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: LBC report from Scandanavia
References: <E1AjZbS-000317-00@smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net>
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But I hear the "top down" snow bunnies more than make up for the lack of
Spridgets..........
I want to hear more about this, off list of course........

Brad

Greg Gowins wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>
>
> My travels have now taken me to a country I've never been to before,
> Finland!  This place is very beautiful, but EXTREMELY cold.  I don't think
> I've ever been this cold before in my life.   Last night it was -6 last
> night (-22 Celsius for those who understand).    I have a report to make:
> There are not any LBCs in Finland.  Not one.  Any.  Nada.  Niente.  I don't
> think any combination of thermostat or radiator blocking would keep a
> Spridget warm enough to drive.   I don't think there has ever been a
> Spridget or any other LBC here.   For a Texas boy, I don't think I could
> make it more than a week in this winter wonderland.
>
>
>
> Greg






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:12:43 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
  Jan 2004 21:51:59 -0500

"Now...my problem"

Ah, yes Mr. Frank...the 'ole fly in the
ointment. :)

Sure...your heart and soul is in it to begin
with and if it really runs well (which will
more than likely be the case).......????

Wait a moment...I have the answer...
does Diane want another kid??! {80




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Marco" <mardep5@adelphia.net>, "spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: flaring tool
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:32:29 -0500

but  the first step of a "standard flare" is a bubble flare before you
invert it into a "standard flare".   have them get the tool and if it is
exactly what i think you will recieve the flaring instructions will be
inside the vynal case's lid.  before you purchase it look closely at the
steps that are shown .  it'll be something like square cut the end of the
tube, camfer the edges of the tube slightly before clamping the tube at a
certain height in the holding fixture, insert the piece that makes the
bubble into the end of the tube and then press the piece down onto the end
of the tube.  at that point you have achieved a bubble on the end of the
tube.     on numerous vehicles that use lockheed or girling (some german
cars as well!) use a combination of bubble flare on one end of a tube and
double flare (or what is concieved as a standard flare) on the opposite end
of the same tube.   tubes such as that are not available at parts stores.
i hand fabricate and fit those tubes here per aplication.   what you need is
a tube that has SAE and metric threaded nuts to acomodate the midgets
plumbing to the fiat plumbing.    once you posess the tool yer gonna find
out how neat it is to be able custom bend a tube that fits exactly where you
want it and the specific route you need it to run.
now 1 word of caution!  make a few test runs with the tool on some tubing
that you are not going to install in the car!   the first few attempts might
turn out ok, but rather do a few practice shots before you do the carefully
bent custom fitted piece to be certain you are familiar with the tool's
operation.   improperly done a flare can lay over to one side as opposed to
being straight onto the intended seat causing a leak or possibly damaging
the intended seat.   so some tests will save you the agrivation of redoing
the tube or needing to replace the intended item it attaches to.   :)
BTW!!!!   remember to put  the right nut onto the tube BEFORE you flare the
tube!  (oh yes in the excitement of knowing the job will be done as soon as
you flare the tube....it can happen! ;)  ....)
chuck
been there.....broke that!  then had ta fix it.......again!
-----Original Message-----
From Marco <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:01 PM
Subject: flaring tool


>Sounds great if I can find one. Parts stores claim they only can get one
that
>does a standard flare.
>
>Marco






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:39:52 -0500

NO!  a stronger cluth will stall the motor out as well as a wimpy one!   the
stronger clutch is just going to be tougher on your clutch actuation system
or your leg's ability tohold down the pedal at a traffic light or in traffic
jambs!  i have a 55 chevy i have had since high school.   it has a hays
competition clutch in it.   when i drove it on the street(it's been a very
long time now!) at lights my left leg would begin to twitch trying to hold
the pedal down waiting for the light to change.   our race morgan has a
tilton race clutch in it.   you need to slip the heck out of the clutch to
get enough momentum out of the car so not to stall it before complete
engaugement.
a stronger clutch is needed when increased horsepower exceeds the original
clutch's ability to clamp the disc and then slips.   not to say that
improved clutch lining material on the disc is not importaint.   there are
difrent lining materials but those are rarely available as a choice unless
you are having a clutch custom relined.

chuck.
oh yeah....broke that too!
-----Original Message-----
From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
To: Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels


>is it wise then, charles, to couple a lightened flywheel with a
>clampier clutch, stage 2 or 3?
>
>--- Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>=====
>the flashfire
>262 880 4570
>
>
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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Greg Gowins" <cartman@rcn.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: LBC report from Scandanavia
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:45:46 -0500

greg!

ja!  dat is why ve haf de saab!  LOL!   *saab like grin*

chuck.
yumpin yimminie!  with saab we have a good heater.  :)
-----Original Message-----
From Greg Gowins <cartman at rcn.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:52 AM
Subject: LBC report from Scandanavia


>Hello all,
>
>
>
>My travels have now taken me to a country I've never been to before,
>Finland!  This place is very beautiful, but EXTREMELY cold.  I don't think
>I've ever been this cold before in my life.   Last night it was -6 last
>night (-22 Celsius for those who understand).    I have a report to make:
>There are not any LBCs in Finland.  Not one.  Any.  Nada.  Niente.  I don't
>think any combination of thermostat or radiator blocking would keep a
>Spridget warm enough to drive.   I don't think there has ever been a
>Spridget or any other LBC here.   For a Texas boy, I don't think I could
>make it more than a week in this winter wonderland.






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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
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Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ
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I met Mike for the first time last night in New York City. Great guy!
Had a fun conversation about Spridgets (of course) and other stuff
(including his fun experience of curling at Peter C's). Funny thing is,
we decided to meet at Heartland Brewery/Chophouse on 43rd street. We
must have been within two feet of each other at the bar for a good 10
minutes before we actually met, as neither of us remembered to tell the
other what we looked like!
 
As always, it's great to put a face and a voice to a list member!
 
-=Chris


 
Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/






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From Bmidget1 at aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:19:55 EST
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
To: spritenut@exit109.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

Frank,
          Good luck with your drive!

For the past 25 years I have given my self a birthday present. A day off of 
work ALONE! If you have never been home alone you should try it. Hell you made 
it your home why not take some time to enjoy it. So what do you do when you 
turn 50? Fire up the heater in the garage and find the problem with the brakes 
on ones midget. This car has reintroduced me to the joy of the open road. And 
it wants me to fix her. So as soon as my body wakes up I'll get to work. I'll 
let you know what I find out. There is one problem I do know of the break 
peddle is rusted to the shaft. That means I'll have to remove the peddle assembly 
to fix it. Looks like I'll be a while. :[i]
 George
76 midget
76 mgb
80 mgb






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From john.dagostino at comcast.net
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: flaring tool
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:46:28 +0000

I have an Old Forge flaring tool and have made many a bubble flare by just doing the first part of the double flare. 
It's a very handy tool, now I make all my own brake, fuel, & vacuum lines. Sometimes I cheat, buy a long bubble flared tube, cut it, slip off the metric fitting, put on the appropriate fitting and you only need to flare one end, saves some time. Great for custom work too, like adding fuel filters or multi carb setups.
Make a few practice flares, and don't forget to put on the fitting first...

J
> but  the first step of a "standard flare" is a bubble flare before you
> invert it into a "standard flare".   have them get the tool and if it is






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To: "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ

He's the one at the bar that speaks Aussie, and is not drinking Fosters.

Was he limping?  ;-)
         Peter C
         You're right... great guy.
======
At 06:53 AM 1/22/2004, Chris King wrote:
>I met Mike for the first time last night in New York City. Great guy!
>Had a fun conversation about Spridgets (of course) and other stuff
>(including his fun experience of curling at Peter C's). Funny thing is,
>we decided to meet at Heartland Brewery/Chophouse on 43rd street. We
>must have been within two feet of each other at the bar for a good 10
>minutes before we actually met, as neither of us remembered to tell the
>other what we looked like!
>
>As always, it's great to put a face and a voice to a list member!
>
>-=Chris






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>, <PilotRob@webtv.net>
CC: <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
  (Spidgets)
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] re Who else is working on their Spridget
  -ME! ME!

 Kent Cams scattered cams are very similar. part# 286 SP
 is eqivalent to the SPVP3 the 296SP the SPVP4 and the
 310SP the SPVP5.
 The SPVP3 and 4 are intented for road/rally and rally/race use
 where a reasonably wide power band is required. If use for
 rally applications the silencer muffler must have be a low
 back pressure design. The SPVP5 ia an all out race design
 and should only be used as such.

 Just if you were wondering?

 Larry Rex








David...

A flat spot (most especially with a VP3
Kent 276+ cam) is not unusual with a
45DCOE using the larger 4.5 or 5.0
aux venturi. You will notice this carb
configured for racing uses the smaller
3.5 aux vent which brings the main
system "in" a little earlier in the game.

Was using 1.4+ intake valves and a
VP3 cam.

Noticing this, I changed out my 4.5's
for 3.5's and jetted upwards accordingly
to 145 mains and 175 air correctors while
retaining the 50F9 idle jets the carb
came with.

(Then I rechecked the ign. timing to make
sure I wasn't overadvanced.....not).

Better with the 3.5's.....now
no flat spot on acceleration except
at immediate WOT from idle, so 
went up .05 on
the pump jets. Solved the problem.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)



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Hard to tell that when you're at a brewpub (that serves no Foster's) and
he's not speaking... ;)
 
I didn't notice a limp... quick recovery? ;)
 
-=Chris


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Peter C.
Sent: 1/22/2004 9:54:27 AM
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ 

He's the one at the bar that speaks Aussie, and is not drinking Fosters.
Was he limping? ;-) 
Peter C 
You're right... great guy. 
====== 
At 06:53 AM 1/22/2004, Chris King wrote: 
> 
>As always, it's great to put a face and a voice to a list member! 
> 
>-=Chris 

. 






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While on this topic, does anyone have a source for basic info on 
soldering sheet copper?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Keith Pennell wrote:

> Thanks to all who responded to my soldering query.  I plan to do some
> soldering practice today to try out the suggestions.  This list is such a
> great resource!






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From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ

He wasn't when he left here, but it usually takes a day or two to show. 
That, in addition to him having fallen a few times, might have manifested 
by the time he got to The City.
         Peter
=
At 09:42 AM 1/22/2004, Chris King wrote:
>Hard to tell that when you're at a brewpub (that serves no Foster's) and 
>he's not speaking... ;)
>
>I didn't notice a limp... quick recovery? ;)
>
>-=Chris
>
>
>Chris King
>http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
>
>  <-----Original Message----->
>     From: Peter C.
>Sent: 1/22/2004 9:54:27 AM
>To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu;spridgets@autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ
>
>He's the one at the bar that speaks Aussie, and is not drinking Fosters.
>
>Was he limping? ;-)
>Peter C
>You're right... great guy.
>======
>At 06:53 AM 1/22/2004, Chris King wrote:
> >
> >As always, it's great to put a face and a voice to a list member!
> >
> >-=Chris
>
>.






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From "Gary  & Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>, "conan" <conan@intrex.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:33:08 -0800

> Southern living does have it's advantages
> during Dec/Jan/Feb. (even though Brad lives down there!:)

Ah yes, but Brad does know Elizabeth, and any friend of hers must have SOME
good qualities, even if he does own a rather large living belt.

We have now gone nearly a month without the temp rising above freezing.  At
least I am not slogging through knee-deep mud every time I go out, and with
the sun shining almost daily, I do not feel nearly as depressed as I
normally do in the winter. In fact, I think I will run into Elko and have
lunch with "the girls".

Kate






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From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
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Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget? 

  Way to go Kendal!  Spridgets AND 510s!!  Now just add a Mustang and a Jeep CJ...  ;-) :-) :-)
  Ed in NC






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Subject: Re: Cat content-NLBC hmmmmmm
  Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:33:08 -0800

<In fact, I think I will run into Elko and have lunch with "the girls">

as is proper and appropriate in addition
to being perfectly and reasonably
acceptable, kate. :)

Just saw the new "Whiska's" commericial
featuring the "stalking/attacking" black
and white "hunting cat"! :)

Almost as cool as my all time favorite
GEICO "squirrel commercial" (long version thereof, obviously!:):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: conan <conan@intrex.net>, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Missing sig line

 - '94 Jeep ZJ Grand Cherokee (front corner pulled out and ready to hang new fender and hood)

There would have been a Mustang in the pile as well if the GF hadn't dumped me a couple of months ago.  I don't understand the attraction, but she wanted one.


-----Original Message-----
From conan <conan at intrex.net>
Sent: Jan 22, 2004 1:01 PM
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget? 

  Way to go Kendal!  Spridgets AND 510s!!  Now just add a Mustang and a Jeep CJ...  ;-) :-) :-)
  Ed in NC






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   Kendel McCarley
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per Kendel McCarley 
> - '94 Jeep ZJ Grand Cherokee 

  No, no, no!  I said a "Jeep CJ", not a pregnant station-wagon. ;-)
  Ed in NC






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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:33:08 -0800

"Ah yes, but Brad does know Elizabeth..."

Well.....OK, Kate. As long as you're
sure. (I mean, he's a weasel if there ever
was one....)

But....OK!! I'll try...NO PROMISES YOU UNDERSTAND.....
but I'll try. (Two fingers pointing to 
own eyes, squinting...fingers subsequently
pointed in Brad's direction:).

No sun for days on end IS depressing! :(




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: LBC but not spridget.
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

can someone point out some resources for super 7 replica kits?  im
curious about cost and i love looking at pictures of construction and
to see what people have done with them, both mechanically and at the
track.

there are lots of links but nothing good that ive seen so far.

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From Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
To: conan@intrex.net, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Missing sig line

No, if there are that many LBCs and old Datsuns around, there has to be a big, V8 powered tow vehicle at the ready.

 - Kendel in Tucson


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Jan 22, 2004 2:01 PM
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	Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Missing sig line

per Kendel McCarley 
> - '94 Jeep ZJ Grand Cherokee 

  No, no, no!  I said a "Jeep CJ", not a pregnant station-wagon. ;-)
  Ed in NC






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Anybody know where Mike is? Gerard hasn't heard from him this week and
was wondering what his plans are for the West Coast part of his "tour".

Herby
64 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
billh@aaai.com
http://www.herbytoys.com



-----Original Message-----
From Peter C. [mailto:nosimport at mailbag.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:59 AM
To: Chris King; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ

He wasn't when he left here, but it usually takes a day or two to show. 
That, in addition to him having fallen a few times, might have
manifested 
by the time he got to The City.
         Peter






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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:09:01 -0800

> No sun for days on end IS depressing! :(

That is EXACTLY why I no longer live in Oregon.  We get blue skies and
sunshine almost every day, and it is much easier walking over hard packed
snow than trying to slog through knee-deep mud.

Kate






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From "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: LBC but not spridget-Super 7
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:01:27 -0500

Don't forget there is also a book titled "Build Your Own Sports Car For
As Little As #250" by Ron Champion ISBN 1 85960 636 9 
I got a copy for Christmas this year. It details building a "Locost"
home built Seven style kit car. The book includes all dimensions for the
frame members, brackets, suspension components, and alum body panels.
You still have to buy the nose cone and fenders in fiberglass from one
of the standard kit manufacturers. The bare space frame weighs about 35
lbs. The donor car is a British Ford Escort, but if you search the web
for "locost" you will find people have used many other donor cars. It is
an interesting idea but I don't think I would trust my own welding.
Dean Swanson
'62 A.H. Sprite






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Just a wild guess, found Fosters on tap?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Bill Hunt wrote:

> Anybody know where Mike is? Gerard hasn't heard from him this week and
> was wondering what his plans are for the West Coast part of his "tour".






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan 22 15:12:17 2004
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From Bmidget1 at aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:10:05 EST
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
To: lbc@littlebitcountry.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

OK I got the peddle assm. off, freed up and painted. I'll Finnish an other 
day when the paint is dry. Found some break fluid on the back right tire so I'll 
have something to do after the peddles. Great!!
George
76 midget
76 mgb
80 mgb






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From jonathanb at onebox.com
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: LBC but not spridget.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:46:32 -0500

try this link to a miata powered locost project.

http://www.grassrootsmotorsports.com/locost.html

-----Original Message-----
From     the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Sent:     Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:33:46 -0800 (PST)
To:       spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject:  LBC but not spridget.

can someone point out some resources for super 7 replica kits?  im
curious about cost and i love looking at pictures of construction and
to see what people have done with them, both mechanically and at the
track.

there are lots of links but nothing good that ive seen so far.

==== the flashfire
262 880 4570






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: RE: LBC but not spridget.
To: "Simon.Bosworth" <Simon.Bosworth@target.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

been looking at that site this aft.  not as smooth and couth as the kit
cars, but cool to see some different "interpretations."

--- "Simon.Bosworth" <Simon.Bosworth@target.com> wrote:
> Do a google search for LOCOST...not exeactly a kit but more
> information
> about '7 clones' than you could ever want.
> 
> Cheers,
> Simon
>

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From Lester Ewing <lewing at sport.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Missing sig line
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:03:06 -0600

Ok, Ok.. you win.. what on earth is LBC???

Lester

.. it doen'st *look* Swedish..



On Jan 22, 2004, at 3:34 PM, Kendel McCarley wrote:

> No, if there are that many LBCs and old Datsuns around, there has to 
> be a big, V8 powered tow vehicle at the ready.
>
>  - Kendel in Tucson






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To: jonathanb@onebox.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: LBC but not spridget.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:09:35 -0500
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Look at the bottom of this page

http://www.kitcarlinks.com/ushomepages.htm






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson@earthlink.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: LBC but not spridget-Super 7
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:22:58 -0500

ya gotta gas weld it that way you do not have to normalise all the welds!
it's easy!  after reconstructing tube by tube most of a period copy of an
elva Mk 6 chassis ....the square tube lotus has gotta be a breeze!  :)

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Dean Swanson <d.swanson at earthlink.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: LBC but not spridget-Super 7


>Don't forget there is also a book titled "Build Your Own Sports Car
>an interesting idea but I don't think I would trust my own welding.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan 22 17:43:18 2004
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From "WJHS1960" <wjhs1960 at comcast.net>
To: "Lester Ewing" <lewing@sport.rr.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Missing sig line
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:41:13 -0600

Lester:

You ARE kidding, right????????????????????

You are on a Britsh car List, right???

The Cars ARE Little, Right??

Next question??

LMAO!!

Thanks!!

j.






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From SDOliner at aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:00:50 EST
Subject: Nerf Bars?
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Purists please delete.
I am thinking that the bumperless 69 Midget, might look cool with a set of 
nerf bars. Any wee tight ideas here? No, I don't want to put chain link fence 
posts on the car.

David Oliner






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Subject: Re: Previous Owners,,,Gotta Love them ??
From Nory <nory at buffnet.net>
To: Marco <mardep5@adelphia.net>, spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Don't forget Nory's Laws!
-- 
-Nory
NORYS LAWS:
1.  Just because you have found the problem, doesn't mean you've found the
ONLY problem.
2.  Just because it's new doesn't mean it works right.


> From: "Marco" <mardep5@adelphia.net>
> Reply-To: "Marco" <mardep5@adelphia.net>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:09:40 -0500
> To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Previous Owners,,,Gotta Love them ??
> 
> My 12 yr old son summed it up perfectly!!!
> 
> "Dad, working on the Midget is just like Monster Garage on TV, everytime you
> think you have a problem solved we find another...."
> 
> Marco
> 79 Mutant Midget






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Subject: Re: Cat content-NLBC hmmmmmm
From Nory <nory at buffnet.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   Gary & Kathryn Bales
  <kgb@frontiernet.net>
CC: conan <conan@intrex.net>, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

My favorite is the Hairball Formula cat food commercial -- The one where the
singing cat starts coughing --  Cracks me up every time.

-- 
-Nory
NORYS LAWS:
1.  Just because you have found the problem, doesn't mean you've found the
ONLY problem.
2.  Just because it's new doesn't mean it works right.

> From: PilotRob@webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
> Reply-To: PilotRob@webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:50:16 -0500 (EST)
> To: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales)
> Cc: conan@intrex.net (conan), spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
> Subject: Re: Cat content-NLBC hmmmmmm
> 
> <In fact, I think I will run into Elko and have lunch with "the girls">
> 
> as is proper and appropriate in addition
> to being perfectly and reasonably
> acceptable, kate. :)
> 
> Just saw the new "Whiska's" commericial
> featuring the "stalking/attacking" black
> and white "hunting cat"! :)
> 
> Almost as cool as my all time favorite
> GEICO "squirrel commercial" (long version thereof, obviously!:):)






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From "WJHS1960" <wjhs1960 at comcast.net>
To: <SDOliner@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <16f.28ea9261.2d41cc42@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars?
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:58:26 -0600

Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<<Any wee tight ideas here? No, I don't want to put chain link fence
posts on the car.>>

Nah, NOT the posts, David!!!

Get MISTER "We Tight" to go to one of the shipyards and get some Anchor
Chain "links" (for free).

Prob 5 or 6 would do.  Have "dipped", welded into straight line (Frank?) and
then chrom plated.

So Kay?

j.






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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
References: <12708-400FBB64-2622@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net>

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

(c'mon March!)

What's with March, it's 40* everyday in March.
Come on June!


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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References: <16f.28ea9261.2d41cc42@aol.com>

SDOliner@aol.com wrote:

>   No, I don't want to put chain link fence
> posts on the car.

Hey I resemble that remark! And fence caps are still better than plastic 
crap wheel center.
So I guess you don't want to hear about my chrome towel bar nerf bars huh?
They look real good, just don't bump anything with them ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: So I didn't drive it tonight

I did fire it up with just a tweak of the timing but had a serious miss.
No suction in the back carb.
Checked the valves, they were set fine.
Did a compression test, ZIP in #4 cylinder, like ZERO!
Ok, yank the head and I did find a perfectly good piston it was even 
clean and it moved up and down.
Close examination of the intake valve revealed not a burnt valve but a 
smashed valve. Smashed on the rim, almost squared off.
Lapped in a new valve, de-coked the rest of the head, put it all back 
together and now I have 125 psi compression across the board and that is 
with my rubber tipped, probably leaks some, comp tester.
I just didn't feel like putting the carbs back on tonight so maybe 
tomorrow night is test drive night.
60 psi oil pressure.
Original fuel pump works.
No noticable leaks (yet) other than the leaky intake valve.
And no smoke from the wires OR the exhaust :)

I'm sure it will run better on all 4 and with the rear carb working.
But it was idling sort of high, could that be due to the valve leak?
Throttle plates are correct, idle and choke fast idle screws are off 
contact. I guess a square intake valve would make for a large vacuum leak.
Now what did this engine swallow to give it a square valve?
No marks on the piston or head. It looks like someone filed the valve 
flat on one side, and it is smashed outwards like something went in 
there. Nothing in the oil pan cause I had that off.
Oh well, all fixed and it only took about 2 hours.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: who else is working on their Spridget
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
From Tommy_Samuels at MARKIVAUTO.COM
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:49:44 -0500
  6.0.1|February 07, 2003) at 01/22/2004 10:10:38 PM

Frank,
I am happy to say that my '67 Sprite is behaving to a point that I haven't
worked on it in about 4 months.
I have been working on my 60 MGA hot rod project though
I had to take some time off right before Christmas so I dropped the Ford V6
and C3 automatic in place, bled brakes, rewired a few circuits a DPO had
screwed up and started bodywork and paint.
The tub, doors, bonnet and deck lid are painted, the fenders will get it
this weekend if it REALLY is 60 on Saturday
Custom seats with Bugeye backs grafted to late model midget bases are
finished.  I cut and sewed the upholstery myself
Carpets and interior panels will go in after the paint has been buffed

My SAAB Carroll Shelby wheels arrived this week , so I am one happy camper.
Even with work, travel, kids, and school, I will be driving the hot rod in
March

Tommy
67 Sprite daily driver
60 MGA hot rod project






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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'conan'" <conan@intrex.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Missing sig line
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:16:04 -0800

You got something against the TJ's cause mine beats CJ's anytime
anywhere.  I've owned both, my CJ5 was great off-road, but on-road it
was flat dangerous, the 2001 TJ is better off-road and can do 100+ with
the stereo blasting and AC on, on-road.
		Crash   

per Kendel McCarley 
> - '94 Jeep ZJ Grand Cherokee 

  No, no, no!  I said a "Jeep CJ", not a pregnant station-wagon. ;-)
  Ed in NC






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Subject: RE: LBC but not spridget-Super 7
To: "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson@earthlink.net>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
From Tommy_Samuels at MARKIVAUTO.COM
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:00:49 -0500
  6.0.1|February 07, 2003) at 01/22/2004 10:21:32 PM

Dean
I've bee fascinated with the 7-esque sports cars for a while and will
probably start one when the MGA hot rod is finished.  There is a company in
alabama??? maybe  Champion car company that will build a frame for about
$1000.
jig built for accuracy, good weld quality, etc.
One excellent donor car to keep it British would be a Spitfire.  front
suspension, spindles, breaks, steering rack, independent rear suspension,
gas tank , all sorts of goodies transplant easily.

The best one I have ever driven was powered by a Kawasaki superbike engine.
6 forward speeds, but no reverse.  SCARY FAST and drove like a dream






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:07:52 EST
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars?
To: SDOliner@aol.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/22/2004 6:07:19 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
SDOliner@aol.com writes:
I am thinking that the bumperless 69 Midget, might look cool with a set of 
nerf bars. Any wee tight ideas here? No, I don't want to put chain link fence 
posts on the car.
.

I've had the same idea for the 73 David.  I remember the ones from old hot 
rods...1/2 inch tube?   The bugeye bumperette might be a substitute...but 
wouldn't give as much protection.  Maybe you could get Orange County Choppers to 
make up something.

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


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second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Fw: Nerf Bars?
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:27:31 -0500

ya know the old cal custom beetle nerf bars are not a bad idea as i had a
set on my bugeye on the front back in the late 70's.

chuck.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RBHouston@aol.com <RBHouston@aol.com>
>To: SDOliner@aol.com <SDOliner@aol.com>
>Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>Date: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:09 PM
>Subject: Re: Nerf Bars?
>
>
>>In a message dated 1/22/2004 6:07:19 PM Mountain Standard Time,
>>SDOliner@aol.com writes:
>>I am thinking that the bumperless 69 Midget, might look cool with a set of
>>nerf bars. Any wee tight ideas here? No, I don't want to put chain link
>fence
>>posts on the car.
>>.
>>
>>I've had the same idea for the 73 David.  I remember the ones from old hot
>>rods...1/2 inch tube?   The bugeye bumperette might be a substitute...but
>>wouldn't give as much protection.  Maybe you could get Orange County
>Choppers to
>>make up something.
>>
>>Robert B. Houston
>>'73 Midget...and others






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From Bruce Lowry <egnorant at dctexas.net>
To: Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net>
CC: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: Nerf Bars?
References: <001701c3e169$3843f7e0$30fb45cf@fred>

My old 60 Sprite had nerf bars on it. People said it looked like tusks. I liked
em'!
Bruce (TX)

Charles Christ wrote:

> ya know the old cal custom beetle nerf bars are not a bad idea as i had a
> set on my bugeye on the front back in the late 70's.






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: RE: LBC but not spridget-Super 7
To: Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

i read an ebay ad with a motorcycle heart and a sequential 6 speed.  it
said since it didnt have reverse some people had a retrofit electric
starter-type motor to drive reverse, and others had some sort of
flip-switch that would set all 6 gears into reverse so that you could
backup easily.  he also said it was not uncommon for them to hold these
sorts of races with people doing 6 gears in reverse.  sounds friggin
stupid.

--- Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM wrote:
> Dean
> I've bee fascinated with the 7-esque sports cars for a while and will
> probably start one when the MGA hot rod is finished.  There is a
> company in
> alabama??? maybe  Champion car company that will build a frame for
> about
> $1000.
> jig built for accuracy, good weld quality, etc.
> One excellent donor car to keep it British would be a Spitfire. 
> front
> suspension, spindles, breaks, steering rack, independent rear
> suspension,
> gas tank , all sorts of goodies transplant easily.
> 
> The best one I have ever driven was powered by a Kawasaki superbike
> engine.
> 6 forward speeds, but no reverse.  SCARY FAST and drove like a dream
> 


=====
the flashfire
262 880 4570


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From Captain Rapture <yup1275 at earthlink.net>
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>, mg <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Buggerboo? ME! ME!
References: <400F3ACF.2000202@exit109.com>
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  x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"

Thank you. Now I have two sets of ideas to compare
with what I have on hand incl a 40DCOE. I think this
will ultimately help with fine tuning.

We tried a timing light today on pal Jim, a retired
mechanic's hunch. The advance is jerky, abrupt,
and seems to be the major  b u g g e r b o o .

Hunch vs buggerboo. Hunch wins this round!

I had an Alden Jello, but it is for an A+ motor,
so I threw on my old S dizz. Now I can pull the
points plate and loosen things up and replace
whatever bits argue with me.

On a road test, there is lots of power when the
parts cooperate. The 210 5-speed works fine.

Wotta helpful and supportive group!

David McCartney



 Flank Crarici wrote:

> Captain Rapture wrote:
>
> > That 45dcoe is giving me a flat spot the size
> > of Grand Canyon!
>
> Yeah, Vizards recommendations are not exactly perfect.
> I am running 145 mains, down from the 180s
> And 50 pump jets, up from the 45s.
> I also choked it down to 34 chokes from 38.
>
> No more flat spot. I have since upped the mains to 165s, still no flat spot.
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
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From SDOliner at aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:28:10 EST
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars?
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/22/2004 11:09:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
RBHouston@aol.com writes:
Maybe you could get Orange County Choppers to 
make up something.
I was hooked on that show for about 4 episodes, until I realized that it was 
always the same. I kept hoping that the father would get crushed in the punch 
press or something. Never happened.

What was the deal with the fake time pressures? "This week we have to build 
this $150,000 chopper in three days."






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From "Ralph Heacox" <marinaratt at hotmail.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: bugeye movement
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:51:15 -0800
  FILETIME=[E9F96F00:01C3E174]

I need to move my bugeye from Stockton, CA to Seattle. Rolls, doesn't run. 
Went on the internet for transporters and got a bazillion responses. 
Understand it's(or can be) quite a racket. Abscond with the deposit, show up 
late on either end, parts stripped, etc...screening is obviously an issue 
and so is cost...references, feedback appreciated...

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From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fwd: LBC but not spridget.]
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 7:16:37 +0000

http://www.superformance.com/s1roadster.aspx

Not very cheap but this company has been around for a while and claims to be the highest quality out there...

NFI,
Kent
1960 Bugeye

can someone point out some resources for super 7 replica kits?  im
curious about cost

the flashfire






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: <SDOliner@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars? oarnge county?
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:36:56 -0500

OCC is an interesting program from a metal fabrication point of view as is
monster garage.   yet, i find both shows (as well as junk yard wars!)
incredibly stupid.  at least the motorcycle program makes a real functional
vehicle with some longevity in mind.   for the life of me i can not figure
out how they make a business function let alone keep it going  considering
how incredibly disfunctional they are!
i can not believe the amount of the T shirts and hats i see out and about
locally from these shows!   it's bad enough that these creative individuals
are creating the argumentitive and uncooperative image that these shows are
portraying.   but on top of that they are getting royally rewarded for it
too!   and people are supporting them in a huge way , in a huge financial
way!   somehow i see it as being rather sad.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From SDOliner at aol.com <SDOliner@aol.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, January 23, 2004 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars?


>In a message dated 1/22/2004 11:09:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>RBHouston@aol.com writes:
>Maybe you could get Orange County Choppers to
>make up something.
>I was hooked on that show for about 4 episodes, until I realized that it
was
>always the same. I kept hoping that the father would get crushed in the
punch
>press or something. Never happened.
>
>What was the deal with the fake time pressures? "This week we have to build
>this $150,000 chopper in three days."






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Thread-Topic: wet sanding Q
From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: wet sanding Q
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:35:10 -0800
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I have a couple of paint runs in one of my Midget's front wings. Tonight
I have some time and I was going to wet-sand them out. This is my first
time doing automotive finish-sanding. Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid?
 
TIA!
 
-=Chris






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To: "Charles Christ" <cfchrist@earthlink.net>
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Subject: RE: Nerf Bars? oarnge county?
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:44:00 -0600
  with any abuse report

Hear here.

As some one that grew up working for my father, (from age 12) every time
that blow hard on occ starts belittling his son, I cringe. It has gotten to
the point that I flip that show off the minute it comes on, I don't give it
a second chance anymore. Don't get me wrong, My Dad taught me lots, and 98%
of the time it was very rewarding, and educational, as not too many other
people would have taken the time to thourally teach as my father did. But
that show, sure does bring out the memories of the other 2%. makes me sweat
thinking about it :)

-----Original Message-----
From Charles Christ [mailto:cfchrist at earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 5:37 AM
To: SDOliner@aol.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars? oarnge county?


OCC is an interesting program from a metal fabrication point of view as is
monster garage.   yet, i find both shows (as well as junk yard wars!)
incredibly stupid.  at least the motorcycle program makes a real functional
vehicle with some longevity in mind.   for the life of me i can not figure
out how they make a business function let alone keep it going  considering
how incredibly disfunctional they are!
i can not believe the amount of the T shirts and hats i see out and about
locally from these shows!   it's bad enough that these creative individuals
are creating the argumentitive and uncooperative image that these shows are
portraying.   but on top of that they are getting royally rewarded for it
too!   and people are supporting them in a huge way , in a huge financial
way!   somehow i see it as being rather sad.

chuck.






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Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
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Still beats 25* and snow on the ground. Now I ned to get myself ready
for doing an oil change on the Ranger and the BMW tomorrow... ;)
 
-=Chris


<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Frank Clarici
Sent: 1/22/2004 9:09:07 PM
To: PilotRob@webtv.net
Cc: conan@intrex.net;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm 

Robert E. Shlafer wrote: 

(c'mon March!) 

What's with March, it's 40* everyday in March. 
Come on June! 


-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
Back up to too many sprites again. 
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/ 






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: wet sanding Q
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:15:47 -0500

here's a few pointers!  first off ya need ta use a rubber block onna counta
cuz yer going to need to do it very very flat!  try to never ever use the
paper unsupported by hand as you can, with finger tip pressure sand groves
into a finish at this point.   also do not "push" the sandpaper into the
work ,let the grit of the paper do the work aided by the weight of the
block.  then you need 600 or 1200 ultra fine paper, wet or dry type .
next, wet sand on the high spots as well as you can avoiding contact with
the surrounding areas as best as you can only concentrating on the high
spots specifically.    next you will be wet sanding and use a dash of dish
soap in the water.   the soap wil lreduce the cutting of the sand paper a
degree.   next be very carefull to keep a wet rag above the sanding area to
keep a bit of a trickle of "wet" constantly running over the sanding area.
start with the 600 and progress tothe 1200.   inspect the paper periodically
for clumps of paint gathering on the grit of the paper.   if this happens
and it does not wash off in your bucket of water , change to a new sheet of
sandpaper.   those clumps can make a ess or problems that you would choose
to avoid.   lastly!  if on a rounded edge be carefull to work with that
contour or you will generate a flat spot.  and similarly to wood sanding the
last sanding operation is to sand it in 1 direction only to align the last
sanding scratches before polishing the finished piece.    kinda whut ya
wantedta know?  *wink-wink*

chuck.
remember wet-wet-wet!  the action of dry sanding causes heat wich the
wetting keeps down(also washes away the removed media).   that dry dust can
with heat offriction actually melt, clump up and adhere itself to the car's
finish right where you weretrying to remove it from!.....c.
-----Original Message-----
From Chris King <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:40 AM
Subject: wet sanding Q


>I have a couple of paint runs in one of my Midget's front wings. Tonight
>I have some time and I was going to wet-sand them out. This is my first
>time doing automotive finish-sanding. Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid?
>
>TIA!
>
>-=Chris






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Exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks!
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Charles Christ
Sent: 1/23/2004 8:14:47 AM
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: wet sanding Q 

here's a few pointers! first off ya need ta use a rubber block onna
counta 
cuz yer going to need to do it very very flat! try to never ever use the
paper unsupported by hand as you can, with finger tip pressure sand
groves 
into a finish at this point. also do not "push" the sandpaper into the 
work ,let the grit of the paper do the work aided by the weight of the 
block. then you need 600 or 1200 ultra fine paper, wet or dry type . 
next, wet sand on the high spots as well as you can avoiding contact
with 
the surrounding areas as best as you can only concentrating on the high 
spots specifically. next you will be wet sanding and use a dash of dish 
soap in the water. the soap wil lreduce the cutting of the sand paper a 
degree. next be very carefull to keep a wet rag above the sanding area
to 
keep a bit of a trickle of "wet" constantly running over the sanding
area. 
start with the 600 and progress tothe 1200. inspect the paper
periodically 
for clumps of paint gathering on the grit of the paper. if this happens 
and it does not wash off in your bucket of water , change to a new sheet
of 
sandpaper. those clumps can make a ess or problems that you would choose
to avoid. lastly! if on a rounded edge be carefull to work with that 
contour or you will generate a flat spot. and similarly to wood sanding
the 
last sanding operation is to sand it in 1 direction only to align the
last 
sanding scratches before polishing the finished piece. kinda whut ya 
wantedta know? *wink-wink* 

chuck. 
remember wet-wet-wet! the action of dry sanding causes heat wich the 
wetting keeps down(also washes away the removed media). that dry dust
can 
with heat offriction actually melt, clump up and adhere itself to the
car's 
finish right where you weretrying to remove it from!.....c. 
-----Original Message----- 
From Chris King 
To: spridgets@autox.team.net 
Date: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:40 AM 
Subject: wet sanding Q 


>I have a couple of paint runs in one of my Midget's front wings.
Tonight 
>I have some time and I was going to wet-sand them out. This is my first
>time doing automotive finish-sanding. Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid? 
> 
>TIA! 
> 
>-=Chris 


. 






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:51:11 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
Cc: psychalgia@rocketmail.com, spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels
  22 Jan 2004 07:39:52 -0500

"NO! A stronger clutch...."

I think I meant grabbier and not "stronger"
and apologize for the confusion in my
use of terms, Chuck. My bad! Forgot about lining material as an element
in
all of this.

What I meant was a clutch that comes
in "hard and fast" rather than "softly"
and can be "feathered" in action. 

Am I making any sense, here? :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars? oarnge county?
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:55:23 -0500

my father had a line that rings in my ears to this day!
"kid, if ya don't know what yer doing.....don't do it!"
he has not said it to me for quite a while (thank god!) but when i was
little , boy did i hear that a lot!  with the amount of equiptment in his
shop i had evry chance to not know what i was doing, over and over!
i'll never forgetthe time i tried to use the oxy-acetelyne outfit for the
first time when he was not there!  black floating soot thingies were
"evrywhere"....and i mean evrywhere!  all overa customer's jag and his race
car!   and i tried to blow them off and wipe them off and ya know whut a
cream e type jag looks like with black smears all over it..looks like?
i'll tell ya!   it looked a whole lot like i was about to get a spanking
from my dad (couldn't sit for a day from that lesson!) ....and i did!
boy-o-boy was he furious with me!  (had evry right to be too!, i was only 8
or 9 at the time!)

chuck.
been there.....glad i did not ignite it!  ........   ;)
-----Original Message-----
From Wm. Thompson <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net>

>Hear here.
>
>As some one that grew up working for my father, (from age 12) every time
>that blow hard on occ starts belittling his son, I cringe.






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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:09:57 -0500 (EST)
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ
  2004 04:53:47 -0800

"....as neither of us remembered to tell
the other what we looked like"

That's OK, Chris. Believe me, the girls
on the list will completely "understand"
normal guy behaviour. We don't ask for
directions, either!! We PREFER to be
lost!! :):):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:39:50 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
Cc: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com, spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars? oarnge county?
  23 Jan 2004 08:55:23 -0500

Black, floating soot thingies

ROTFLMAO....BDTD! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:34:25 EST
Subject: Re: Fw: Nerf Bars?
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/22/2004 9:29:00 PM Mountain Standard Time,
cfchrist@earthlink.net writes:
ya know the old cal custom beetle nerf bars are not a bad idea as i had a
set on my bugeye on the front back in the late 70's.

chuck.
.

Well, doing a Google search for "cal custom beetle nerf bars" let me know
that nerf bar is now the term used for the chrome or stainless side steps for
pick up trucks and SUVs.

I did find a cool parts source called Doghouse.  It's VW parts, but they have
a great looking flip top gas cap for $29!  They have VW nerfs, but only the
single verticle bar that curves up from under the front...looks like it might
bolt up to a Spridget, but I want a little more protection than that.

The nerfs I remember are like (___[]______[]___) but with a bart top and
bottom and holes in the verticle bits for mounting.  Sorry I couldn't come up
with
a better description.


Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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From "Gary  & Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Let's all wish BREE a Happy Birthday!
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:02:59 -0800

Today is our Bobbie's birthday.  I'd bet that she would appreciate a
Spridgetly greeting in honor of the occasion.  Before any of you crude
creatures ask, she's 21+ going on 16, just like me.
Kate






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:17:41 EST
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars? oarnge county?
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net, SDOliner@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/23/2004 4:38:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,
cfchrist@earthlink.net writes:
it's bad enough that these creative individuals
are creating the argumentitive and uncooperative image that these shows are
portraying.   but on top of that they are getting royally rewarded for it
too!   and people are supporting them in a huge way , in a huge financial
way!   somehow i see it as being rather sad.

chuck.
.

Definitely a commentary on our modern society.  Nice guys builing motorcycles
or cars would only be on the DIY channel....like the guy that did the XKE
roadster.

Crap sell!...look at Fox's "reality" programming.  You look, I try not to,
but then, who can avoid looking at a train wreck as it happens.....


Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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To: RBHouston@aol.com, cfchrist@earthlink.net, spridgets@autox.team.net
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Nerf Bars?

Go here.... Mr. Bug, now EMPI   Look at #3107 I, and others can sell them.
http://www.empius.com/b/bumpers.html#tbar

Peter C.
============

At 10:34 AM 1/23/2004, RBHouston@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 01/22/2004 9:29:00 PM Mountain Standard Time,
>cfchrist@earthlink.net writes:
>ya know the old cal custom beetle nerf bars are not a bad idea as i had a
>set on my bugeye on the front back in the late 70's.
>
>chuck.
>.
>
>Well, doing a Google search for "cal custom beetle nerf bars" let me know
>that nerf bar is now the term used for the chrome or stainless side steps for
>pick up trucks and SUVs.
>
>I did find a cool parts source called Doghouse.  It's VW parts, but they have
>a great looking flip top gas cap for $29!  They have VW nerfs, but only the
>single verticle bar that curves up from under the front...looks like it might
>bolt up to a Spridget, but I want a little more protection than that.
>
>The nerfs I remember are like (___[]______[]___) but with a bart top and
>bottom and holes in the verticle bits for mounting.  Sorry I couldn't come up
>with
>a better description.
>
>
>Robert Houston






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Let's all wish BREE a Happy Birthday!
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:01:22 -0500

HBD!
and may tomorrow be as kind to you as yesterday was!

chuck.
>Subject: Let's all wish BREE a Happy Birthday!






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: RE: LBC but not spridget-Super 7
To: Dean Swanson <d.swanson@earthlink.net>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net

thanks, i joined this locost mailing list today and they pointed out
some other searches at amazon for $22 + <$5 shipping.  (just in case
anyone else is interested)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/offering/list/-/1859606369/all/ref%3Ddp%5Fpb%5Fa/002-1928793-1410468


--- Dean Swanson <d.swanson@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Mine was $29.95 from Classic Motorbooks (motorbooks.com)(plus $9.95
> S&H).
> 
> -----Original Message-----


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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:37:13 -0500 (EST)
To: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales)
Cc: conan@intrex.net (conan), spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:09:01 -0800

Yeah...

Snow/cold are a PITA but much worse
without sunlight, for sure.

Saw the other Whiska's comm'l with
the orange/white stalking the Buffalo...
as it should be!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <002d01c3e0e4$d64ad6a0$d3f045cf@fred>
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:40:01 -0000

I guess we all do it, but I was always taught that holding the clutch pedal
down whilst waiting at the lights is what wrecks the release bearing.

One think I do know is that when you "creep"  in first gear at slow speed in
traffic, slipping the clutch,  this is exactly what cause a rib-case to jamb
in first gear.

Guy



----- Original Message ----- 
From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels


> NO!  a stronger cluth will stall the motor out as well as a wimpy one!
the
> stronger clutch is just going to be tougher on your clutch actuation
system
> or your leg's ability tohold down the pedal at a traffic light or in
traffic
> jambs!






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From "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano at mindspring.com>
To: "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>,
   "spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:08:51 -0600

In NY, if you take a driving test with a manual tranny, and you leave the
car in gear with your foot on the clutch at a light or stop sign, you
automatically fail.  At least, that's how I remember it.  In other states,
if you take it out of gear at a light or stop sign, you fail.....

This had nothing to do with the current conversation, but I thought I'd
mention it....

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From Guy Weller

I guess we all do it, but I was always taught that holding the clutch pedal
down whilst waiting at the lights is what wrecks the release bearing.

One think I do know is that when you "creep"  in first gear at slow speed in
traffic, slipping the clutch,  this is exactly what cause a rib-case to jamb
in first gear.

Guy

----- Original Message -----
From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>

> NO!  a stronger cluth will stall the motor out as well as a wimpy one!
the
> stronger clutch is just going to be tougher on your clutch actuation
system
> or your leg's ability tohold down the pedal at a traffic light or in
traffic
> jambs!






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:16:44 EST
Subject: Bob Keeshan...NO LBC
To: spridgets@autox.team.net, midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com

Bit of sad news...Bob Keeshan passed away...age 78.  So long Captain..

Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:17:48 -0500 (EST)
To: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: RE: [midgetsprite] NO LBC..now Airplane Engine Sounds
  Jan 2004 23:09:33 -0000

Castor Oil & Castrol (Castrol R)

Got to admit, Dave, I've no clue 'cause
I do not know whether the "early" Castrol
Oils I grew up with in the late 50's &
early 60's were vegetable oil or petroleum based, though I believe it
was the
later. And the Castrol's before that???

Castrol "R"....formulated for high rpm
higher pressure, anti-foam, "racing"
oil I would think but here again, not familiar the specific base or
formula.

But I bet Chuck Christ might know a little
about the early Castrol Oils considering
his Dad was in racing during Castrol's
early days (I believe, anyway).

Castor oil comes from the castor bean
plant (also referred to as a veggie!)
and is "biodegradable" as far as
the internal combustion engine is 
concerned (doesn't degrade the combustion process, per se) and mixes
nicely with gasoline/air mix which was
introduced into the rotary engine's crankcase and mixed with the
lubricating
castor oil.

All three elements were burned in the
combuston process. The inlet valve on
most of these engines was a spring-loaded affair fitted into the crown
of each piston, the outlet valve mounted
where you would expect it to be found
on the top of each cylinder.

The Gnome "monosouape" (single valve)
had inlet ports (as in model airplane piston motors) instead of an inlet
valve.

The Germans favored these motors later
in the war (though you could've fooled me) especially as the quality of
crude
availabe to them began deteriorating,
supposedly. 

Considering the British very heavy use
of rotaries, in Sopwith Pups, Camels, Snipes and the French use in all
their
Nieuport models,  I am not so inclined to believe the foregoing as THE
reason for
German use.

As weird as their design seems to us   today, these engines had a very
favorable power to weight ratio at the time.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:49:39 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: conan@intrex.net (conan), spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  Jan 2004 21:10:07 -0500

Don't gimme that..

....you're a builder. I know what you guys
go through in winter months up here in
the Northeast.

I'm for June too...but I'll take 40F over
this <20F junk anyday...and the sooner
the better!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 23 15:03:41 2004
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:01:28 -0500
From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: re: Let's all wish BREE a Happy Birthday! 

  A birthday wish I wish for Bree,
  With many more to come to thee,
  A Spridget soon to grace your door,
  And fuzzy wheelchocks on your floor.

  HAPPY BIRTHDAY BREE!!!

 from Ed in NC :-)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:16:50 -0500 (EST)
To: yup1275@earthlink.net (Captain Rapture)
Cc: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici), spridgets@autox.team.net (mg)
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Buggerboo? ME! ME!
  22 Jan 2004 21:19:39 -0700

Frank...

What happened to you initially happened
to me. You got the wrong kit....back when
I bought mine, there was the "Cooper S"
or "tuned" 1275 kit (38mm chokes with jetting to match) and the stock
1275
Spridget kit (34mm chokes with jetting
to match).

I felt right away there was definitely something very wrong and started
buying
books and reading like crazy...I found
this information, went back to the vendor
with the appropriate book and kit
number and traded the wrong one for
the right one.

Later on when I rebuilt and Vizardized
the motor, I simply "upgraded" to the
settings in the previously returned
"wrong" kit. Worked!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: <RBHouston@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: Bob Keeshan...NO LBC
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:17:32 -0500

I understand that he was a decorated, WW-II veteran (U.S.M.C).  I remember
reading something about it and I think I remember reading that he received
his recognition for his actions during the Iwo Jima invasion.  Anyone out
there who can confirm that or fill in the details?
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of RBHouston@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:17 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net; midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Bob Keeshan...NO LBC


Bit of sad news...Bob Keeshan passed away...age 78.  So long Captain..

Robert Houston

"Storytelling and copulation are the two chief forms of amusement in the
South. Theybre inexpensive and easy to procure."
Robert Penn Warren






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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:20:02 -0600

Last week Mike told me that John Sprinzel once described him as resembling
the Michelin Man.

Since he was imbibing at the time, I guess it was appropriate.

Phil




"....as neither of us remembered to tell
the other what we looked like"






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:23:38 -0500 (EST)
To: marinaratt@hotmail.com (Ralph Heacox)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: bugeye movement
  22 Jan 2004 21:51:15 -0800

Moving a BE from (user friendly) CA to
(anything but) Seattle?

Isn't there some sort of law prohibiting this sort of cruel and/or
abusive treatment
to LBC's in general?? <VBG>




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From John.Deikis at med.va.gov
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: classic motorsports
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:05:38 -0600

There seem to have been a lot of liberties taken with photos in that issue.
Like a game of "find the spoof."  How about the Allard-- now it's a
right-hand-drive, now it's a left-hand-drive.  Still, I have no regrets over
renewing my British Car subscription and getting Classic Motorsports.  Fun
mag, eventhough I can't afford a GT350 or a Cobra or a Griffith-TVR...at
least I know what they are, which is more than I can say for the sports cars
I see in the "popular press." Hey!  Howabout that new Farasseratti Barona
S&M 5000.  If I get one, I can only take out ONE of the Hilton sisters at a
time, unless I use the dickey seat. 

Maybe I'm just an old fart!

JohnD
................................

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:02:30 -0600
From <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
Subject: classic motorsports

just got my issue of classic motorsports, and the Chicago Mg group has a
picture at "the Rock" on thanksgiving day.... only thing is they used last
years picture,,,,bastards.....I wasn't there last year...LOL,. this year
both Son and I were there.....
willy@thompsoncarpentry.com






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From Jay Fishbein <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
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To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Bob Keeshan...NO LBC
References: <NGBBKOMNILJCEADKHKJOEEMCEEAA.abcoz@hky.com>

See UrbanLegends.com for the full story

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Bud Osbourne wrote:

> I understand that he was a decorated, WW-II veteran (U.S.M.C).  I remember
> reading something about it and I think I remember reading that he received
> his recognition for his actions during the Iwo Jima invasion.  






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   Frank Clarici
  <spritenut@exit109.com>, conan <conan@intrex.net>,
   Spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
References: <14297-401196F3-412@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net>
  FILETIME=[94B57DC0:01C3E202]

I just changed the front rotors on the 68 today, it is up to over
60*....................
God LOVES Texas!!!

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> Don't gimme that..
>
> ....you're a builder. I know what you guys
> go through in winter months up here in
> the Northeast.
>
> I'm for June too...but I'll take 40F over
> this <20F junk anyday...and the sooner
> the better!! :):)
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 23 15:57:24 2004
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:54:57 -0800
To: Mike Gigante <mikeg35au@yahoo.com.au>, spridgets@autox.team.net
From gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
Subject: FWD:Mike Gigante In MV late tonight
Cc: <millerls@ado13.com>, "Larry Pitts" <FUZZY95687@yahoo.com>,
   "Mike
  Gigante" <mg@sgi.com>, Glen Byrns <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>,
   "Bill Hunt"
  <Billh@aaai.com>

Hi Mike,

Several of the CC'd people above have been asking if we are on for 
tomorrow. I wasn't sure since I had not heard from you. I think most 
can rendezvous at my place in the city which is fine with me.

Anyone else who wants to join up is welcome, but let me know. I work 
until six but can probably get off a little early.

Gerard



>Hi Gerard,
>
>My net access has been poor here in NY, but I'll be
>back in MV later tonight.
>
>Are we still on for tomorrow? I am meeting an old
>student of mine in Chico tomorrow night, but I am free
>earlier in the day (up to 3pm or so I guess).
>
>I am also free Sunday I think.
>
>I'll know more tonight when I get to read my SGI mail.
>
>I'm staying at the Hotel Avante down in MV (El Camino)
>if you want to call me. Otherwise email to either
>mg@sgi.com or this yahoo email will both get me.
>
>cheers, Mike
>
>
>http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals
>New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time.


-- 
Gerard Chateauvieux
Royal Motor Sales
Audi - VW - Mazda - Volvo
Direct line 415-241-8137
Check out my new and used inventory at:
http://www.royalmotorsales.com/en_US/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 23 16:02:48 2004
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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Bob Keeshan...NO LBC
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- Bud Osbourne <abcoz@hky.com> wrote:
> I understand that he was a decorated, WW-II veteran
> (U.S.M.C).  

Check snopes.com They say it's an Urban legend. Not to
take away from the Captains contributions. Probably
more people were affected by him as "Kangaroo" than
would have been affected by him as a war hero. We need
more silly men who can be looked up to by the next
generation of kids. Without them I am afraid the human
race is lost. Not meaning to take anything away from
war heros either.

cheers, bill b.

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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:11:23 -0500 (EST)
To: RBHouston@aol.com
Cc: cfchrist@earthlink.net, SDOliner@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars? oarnge county?
  EST

New "Reality" Shows..

Yeechh!!
Yeah, right!! Who's reality? :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:37:06 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici), conan@intrex.net (conan),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 16:45:26 -0600

"...it's up over 60....."

and...I hate you! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:43:42 -0600
From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   Frank Clarici
  <spritenut@exit109.com>, conan <conan@intrex.net>,
   Spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
References: <14295-4011B022-810@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net>
  FILETIME=[B88489F0:01C3E20A]

YOU can put new rotors on YOUR
car as well. Don't hate ME!!!
I guess my telling you I put
newly painted wheels and new
tires will anger you further,
eh??
Brad

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> "...it's up over 60....."
>
> and...I hate you! :)
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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From "Trevor J." <trevorwj at insightbb.com>
To: PilotRob@webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer), RBHouston@aol.com
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars? oarnge county?
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:39:24 -0500
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On Friday 23 January 2004 06:11 pm, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
> New "Reality" Shows..
>
> Yeechh!!
> Yeah, right!! Who's reality? :):)
>
I like the idea of the OCC show, but I think they have the wrong focus.  I'd 
like to see the workings of a shop where there are heated debates over the 
materials and methods not egos.






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Subject: RE: Mike Gigante In MV late tonight
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:04:05 -0800
Thread-Topic: Mike Gigante In MV late tonight
thread-index: AcPiA/m8LJmzRDKrQ5OMCcDtBJz8gwACXJfg
From "Bill Hunt" <Billh at aaai.com>
To: "gerard" <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>,
   "Mike Gigante"
  <mikeg35au@yahoo.com.au>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Cc: <millerls@ado13.com>, "Larry Pitts" <FUZZY95687@yahoo.com>,
   "Mike
  Gigante" <mg@sgi.com>, "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
  i0O06OFG004318

It looks like Gerard might not be able to make it. Do we want to meet up
sometime tomorrow before 3PM or try Sunday?

Herby
64 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
billh@aaai.com
http://www.herbytoys.com



-----Original Message-----
From gerard [mailto:pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:55 PM
To: Mike Gigante; spridgets@autox.team.net
Cc: millerls@ado13.com; Larry Pitts; Mike Gigante; Glen Byrns; Bill Hunt
Subject: FWD:Mike Gigante In MV late tonight

Hi Mike,

Several of the CC'd people above have been asking if we are on for 
tomorrow. I wasn't sure since I had not heard from you. I think most 
can rendezvous at my place in the city which is fine with me.

Anyone else who wants to join up is welcome, but let me know. I work 
until six but can probably get off a little early.

Gerard



>Hi Gerard,
>
>My net access has been poor here in NY, but I'll be
>back in MV later tonight.
>
>Are we still on for tomorrow? I am meeting an old
>student of mine in Chico tomorrow night, but I am free
>earlier in the day (up to 3pm or so I guess).
>
>I am also free Sunday I think.
>
>I'll know more tonight when I get to read my SGI mail.
>
>I'm staying at the Hotel Avante down in MV (El Camino)
>if you want to call me. Otherwise email to either
>mg@sgi.com or this yahoo email will both get me.
>
>cheers, Mike
>
>
>http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals
>New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time.


-- 
Gerard Chateauvieux
Royal Motor Sales
Audi - VW - Mazda - Volvo
Direct line 415-241-8137
Check out my new and used inventory at:
http://www.royalmotorsales.com/en_US/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 23 17:27:13 2004
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:24:59 -0500 (EST)
To: trevorwj@insightbb.com
Cc: RBHouston@aol.com, cfchrist@earthlink.net, SDOliner@aol.com,
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Nerf Bars? oarnge county?
  Jan 2004 18:39:24 -0500

Exacataly!!!

"Educational" rather than all the trying and tireing childish BS
emotional crap which
not representative or the behaviour I've witinessed among mature pro's
in any
discipline.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:27:25 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici), conan@intrex.net (conan),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: hmmmmmm
  2004 17:43:42 -0600

"YOU can put new rotors....."

LOL....Snakeperson!!!

You must mean on my GTi 'cause the
BE went into hibernation weeks ago!!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Michael Graziano <mgraziano@mindspring.com>
CC: Guy Weller <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>,
   spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels
References: <EBELLJDEPCKNHDNLLNEBAEDACPAA.mgraziano@mindspring.com>

Michael Graziano wrote:

> In NY, if you take a driving test with a manual tranny, and you leave the
> car in gear with your foot on the clutch at a light or stop sign, you
> automatically fail.  At least, that's how I remember it.  In other states,
> if you take it out of gear at a light or stop sign, you fail.....

Yes, NJ you must keep your car in gear and your foot on the clutch when
stopped at a light. Something about always being in control of the vehicle.
But for me, I save my clutch ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 23 17:52:34 2004
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From "Rick" <webmasterrick at comcast.net>
To: "Phil Vanner" <phil@outtech.com>, "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <AKEMKGEDKDKHIKOPJBBLGEBCFHAA.phil@outtech.com>
Subject: Re: MIke's Visit from OZ
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:50:14 -0600

er???

<<Last week Mike told me that John Sprinzel once described him as resembling
the Michelin Man.

Since he was imbibing at the time, I guess it was appropriate.>>

John????






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From <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: <John.Deikis@med.va.gov>
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Subject: RE: classic motorsports
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:56:42 -0600
  with any abuse report

dude
 which Hilton sister would you "take"

aint one brain between em////// lol

-----Original Message-----
From John.Deikis at med.va.gov [mailto:John.Deikis@med.va.gov]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:06 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: classic motorsports


There seem to have been a lot of liberties taken with photos in that issue.
Like a game of "find the spoof."  How about the Allard-- now it's a
right-hand-drive, now it's a left-hand-drive.  Still, I have no regrets over
renewing my British Car subscription and getting Classic Motorsports.  Fun
mag, eventhough I can't afford a GT350 or a Cobra or a Griffith-TVR...at
least I know what they are, which is more than I can say for the sports cars
I see in the "popular press." Hey!  Howabout that new Farasseratti Barona
S&M 5000.  If I get one, I can only take out ONE of the Hilton sisters at a
time, unless I use the dickey seat.

Maybe I'm just an old fart!

JohnD
................................






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From Carl Elliott <celliott133 at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Bob Keeshan...NO LBC
References: <NGBBKOMNILJCEADKHKJOEEMCEEAA.abcoz@hky.com>
  <4011A3B5.2080308@ix.netcom.com>

Sgt. Bob Keeshan was awarded the Navy Cross on Iwo Jima . He stood up in 
a murders cross fire on red beach to rally his men off the beach. He was 
also Lee Marvins Platoon Sargent. . Marvin was also  Awarded the Navy 
Cross and Purple Heart among other awards. America has lost a Hero Today .
CarlE.






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From Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Greasy Bonnet

I've been trying to clean up the underside of a hood that's had a lot of oil caked up on it ('77 with Triumph 1500 engine) in preparation for doing the smoothing and paint prep for it.  A combination of oven cleaner, brush,  and power washer has gotten most of it.  However, there are places up under the edges that are hard to get to.

Anybody have any tricks for cleaning up in the cracks and crevices?

 - Kendel






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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: "Rick" <webmasterrick@comcast.net>, "Chris King"
  <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
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Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:40:28 -0600

John called Mike the Michelin Man:
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mikeg/cars/js.htm

Mike was imbibing when Chris met him...The Michelin Man is named "Bibendum."
Which translates - "to drink" see
http://www.michelin.ca/ca/eng/bibendum/p1.htm

Nevermind. it's been a LONG day




-----Original Message-----
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er???

<<Last week Mike told me that John Sprinzel once described him as resembling
the Michelin Man.

Since he was imbibing at the time, I guess it was appropriate.>>

John????






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From Dave Carpenter <d.carpenter7 at verizon.net>
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To: Chris King <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: wet sanding Q
References: <1d7401c3e1ad$56fda0c0$0a0a010a@mail2world.com>
  from [151.201.123.252] at Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:42:59 -0600

Depending on the size of the run (thickness) you can stand a single edge 
razor blade on edge (perpendicular) and scrape over the top of the run 
until it is dang near flat, then sand it. There's actually a tool sold 
for that, but all it is is a holder for the blade.

Dave & Bobbie
1960 Bugeye "Little Bits"
revised web page http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2z49v/bugeye.htm

Chris King wrote:

>I have a couple of paint runs in one of my Midget's front wings. Tonight
>I have some time and I was going to wet-sand them out. This is my first
>time doing automotive finish-sanding. Any tips, or pitfalls to avoid?
> 
>TIA!
> 
>-=Chris






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401230114.i0N1EEho024641@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: LBC but not spridget.
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:44:33 -0500

the flashfire <psychalgia@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> can someone point out some resources for super 7 replica kits?  

I'd start with the LoCost: http://www.championmotorcars.com/

HTH,
Kent






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Subject: Re: Fw: Nerf Bars?
References: <1c3.1438853d.2d42a711@aol.com>
  from [151.201.123.252] at Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:50:27 -0600

Alrighty then......you're looking for Speedway Motors 
(speedwaymotors.com) in Newbraska. Street rod parts, they have a kit for 
those old hotrod nerfs you were drawing. Keyword search NERF on thier site.

Dave & Bobbie
1960 Bugeye "Little Bits"
revised web page http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2z49v/bugeye.htm

RBHouston@aol.com wrote:

>In a message dated 01/22/2004 9:29:00 PM Mountain Standard Time,
>cfchrist@earthlink.net writes:
>ya know the old cal custom beetle nerf bars are not a bad idea as i had a
>set on my bugeye on the front back in the late 70's.
>
>chuck.
>.
>
>Well, doing a Google search for "cal custom beetle nerf bars" let me know
>that nerf bar is now the term used for the chrome or stainless side steps for
>pick up trucks and SUVs.
>
>I did find a cool parts source called Doghouse.  It's VW parts, but they have
>a great looking flip top gas cap for $29!  They have VW nerfs, but only the
>single verticle bar that curves up from under the front...looks like it might
>bolt up to a Spridget, but I want a little more protection than that.
>
>The nerfs I remember are like (___[]______[]___) but with a bart top and
>bottom and holes in the verticle bits for mounting.  Sorry I couldn't come up
>with
>a better description.
>
>
>Robert Houston






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To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: LBC but not spridget.
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:00:59 -0500

Oh, there's also these two:

Stalker V6: http://www.angelfire.com/biz6/stalkerv6/
Birkin: http://www.birkinnorthamerica.com/

Kent
'56 100 BN2






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To: d.carpenter7@verizon.net
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/23/2004 7:50:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
d.carpenter7@verizon.net writes:
Alrighty then......you're looking for Speedway Motors 
(speedwaymotors.com) in Newbraska. Street rod parts, they have a kit for 
those old hotrod nerfs you were drawing. Keyword search NERF on thier site.

Dave & Bobbie
1960 Bugeye "Little Bits"
.

Absolutely!  THEM'S THE ONE'S!  Thanks...now I'm gonna spend $$$

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Reality TV
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:55:06 -0500

A camera following one of us trying to un-do and correct something a DPO did
would make a great show.

Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>, <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] NO LBC..now Airplane Engine Sounds
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:05:00 -0500

castor oil as well as castrol "R" was bean based oil.   as in water based
oil.  castor oil does not stay mixed well with fuel if stored.  it falls out
and congeals.  if used in a 2 stroke motor it can be somewhat fatal.  why?
because it is a water based it tends to promote rust.  it does work !  i use
a bit in the mix for the race car.  this also explains the gooey mess in
sports car engines of days gone by.  up untill about 10 years ago castrol
"R" was exported to america, but no longer.   and after much digging i found
out although the name stayed the formulation is now synthetic.     for the
race 2 stroke i use some medicinal grade castor oil in the fuel mix for the
"right smell", but rely upon synthetic racing oil for the main lubrication.

chuck.
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To: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [midgetsprite] NO LBC..now Airplane Engine Sounds


>Castor Oil & Castrol (Castrol R)
>
>Got to admit, Dave, I've no clue 'cause
>I do not know whether the "early" Castrol
>Oils I grew up with in the late 50's &
>early 60's were vegetable oil or petroleum based, though I believe it
>was the
>later. And the Castrol's before that???
>
>Castrol "R"....formulated for high rpm
>higher pressure, anti-foam, "racing"
>oil I would think but here again, not familiar the specific base or
>formula.
>
>But I bet Chuck Christ might know a little
>about the early Castrol Oils considering
>his Dad was in racing during Castrol's
>early days (I believe, anyway).
>
>Castor oil comes from the castor bean
>plant (also referred to as a veggie!)
>and is "biodegradable" as far as
>the internal combustion engine is
>concerned (doesn't degrade the combustion process, per se) and mixes
>nicely with gasoline/air mix which was
>introduced into the rotary engine's crankcase and mixed with the
>lubricating
>castor oil.
>
>All three elements were burned in the
>combuston process. The inlet valve on
>most of these engines was a spring-loaded affair fitted into the crown
>of each piston, the outlet valve mounted
>where you would expect it to be found
>on the top of each cylinder.
>
>The Gnome "monosouape" (single valve)
>had inlet ports (as in model airplane piston motors) instead of an inlet
>valve.
>
>The Germans favored these motors later
>in the war (though you could've fooled me) especially as the quality of
>crude
>availabe to them began deteriorating,
>supposedly.
>
>Considering the British very heavy use
>of rotaries, in Sopwith Pups, Camels, Snipes and the French use in all
>their
>Nieuport models,  I am not so inclined to believe the foregoing as THE
>reason for
>German use.
>
>As weird as their design seems to us   today, these engines had a very
>favorable power to weight ratio at the time.






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But would it get by the censors?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Marco wrote:

> A camera following one of us trying to un-do and correct something a DPO did
> would make a great show.






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Subject: fiat to mg brake
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:05:29 -0500

Peter,

E-mail me please. Want some info about ordering some parts from you...

Marco
79 Mutant Midget
mardep5@adelphia.net






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From jomar healey <ah53 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
To: Bmidget1@aol.com, spritenut@exit109.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net

 Ok here goes.   I'm a crossover from the dark side.  Yep a big Healey guy building his first Sprite -- '65 box Sprite.  The car is to be a wedding present for my daughter ( she been around Healeys since she was 2 and wanted a Sprite at 5) and her soon to be husband.  The car has been gutted and the body work and paint done.  I'm now up to assembly.  So as I go along I hope the questions are not to stupid.

  Now to start with a stupid one -- I've just rebuilt the steering rack and am not sure what to fill it with.  The book say 140 wt grease.  Any idea where to get it and how to inject it into the rack.  BTW the car was built around March '65 and looks like and early car.

Thanks

Joe

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:56:10 -0500 (EST)
To: ah53@yahoo.com (jomar healey)
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Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
  05:31:12 -0800 (PST)

Hi, Darth Healey...

Are you sure it says 140wt grease and
not 140wt (gear) oil?

"Early" racks used heavy oil, "later" racks
used grease. Of course, you can use grease (same as you lubricate the
other
points with) anyway but, it will be a bear
to steer in colder temperatures.

Is "the book" compatible with the year
car? I cannot recall when they changed
over to the "later" racks. Anyone else...?

HELP!!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: Reality TV
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:19:04 -0500

i think the video portion would get by the sensors....but the audio......no
"#&$**$^$^%#" way!  LOL!  :)

chuck.
hmmm osbournes became a hit and most of the show is sharon yelling "ozzy" or
expletives getting "bleeped"!   so ya know sumpthin, we gotta shot at this!
ROFLMAO!
-----Original Message-----
From Jay Fishbein <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2004 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: Reality TV


>But would it get by the censors?
>
>jay fishbein
>wallingford, ct
>http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/
>
>Marco wrote:
>
>> A camera following one of us trying to un-do and correct something a DPO
did
>> would make a great show.






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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CC: jomar healey <ah53@yahoo.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
References: <14297-4012797A-779@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net>

 > I cannot recall when they changed
> over to the "later" racks. Anyone else...?

Later racks started in the 70s.
I have been using grease gun greas since 1972 in all my Sprites.
No rack wear, no hard steering when cold, no seepage from the rack gaiters.
If you want to use 140 wt oil, pick up a tube of lower unit oil from any 
boat/marine store. Others on this list said there is a way to get the 
oil out of the tube and into the grease nipple but I have ignored that 
thread in the past 'cause grease works for me.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:57:02 -0800

What a sweetheart!  Would you please adopt me?  I'd like an MGA for an
anniversary present.

I just use plain old grease in my steering rack.  I'm not even sure what
weight it is.

Kate
'72 RWA Midget






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: jomar healey <ah53@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re[2]: Who else is working on their Spridget?
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Hello jomar,

       we welcome you to THE LIGHT!




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:15:06 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: ah53@yahoo.com (jomar healey), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
  Jan 2004 11:05:17 -0500

Right on, Frank...

Thanks for the tip on rack changover. I recall oil was recommended in my
PO'd
'67 while grease was called for in my
PO'd '74. For BE's, oil, but either will
work as you say.

An "oil gun" with a fitting that will service
regular grease fittings can be found at
the Marina as well. Alternatively, one
can loosen a clamp on the rubber gaitors
and just fill the boots with oil.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:31:29 -0500 (EST)
To: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
  Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:57:02 -0800

Watch it, Darth!!! }80<

Kate comes with cats, dogs, horses,
SUV (or Jeep type vehicle) and guns!!

Actually.....she's the PERFECT woman,
come to think of it!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: i'm REALLY lazy

Hello spridgets,

          ok, its a given. i'm lazy...but i have a question.

          which way does the dizzy turn to advance timing, and which
          way to retard... somebody knows this, and i don't feel like
          hooking up the timing light and running the car in the
          garage,. (a safety issue?) and its tooo wet outside to take
          the car OUT of the garage.

          TIA

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   '66 Sprite






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To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
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Subject: Re: Who else is working on their Spridget?
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:33:51 -0800

Why, thank you!

Kate
'72 RWA MG Midget
'87 F350 crew cab
'89 Jeep Cherokee
'98 Plymouth Neon coupe
'97 Appaloosa
Too many dogs
Too many cats






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From GreenBugeye at aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:45:18 EST
Subject: Re: i'm REALLY lazy
To: pythias@pacifier.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/24/2004 12:53:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
pythias@pacifier.com writes:
          which way does the dizzy turn to advance timing, and which
          way to retard... somebody knows this, and i don't feel like
          hooking up the timing light and running the car in the
          garage,. (a safety issue?) and its tooo wet outside to take
          the car OUT of the garage.
Too wet?  Poor baby!  I got 7 inches of snow in the driveway!  ;-)

Chris Eck
GreenBugeye@aol.com






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Subject: RE: FWD:Mike Gigante In MV late tonight
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:03:17 -0800
Thread-Topic: RE: FWD:Mike Gigante In MV late tonight
thread-index: AcPirLmgUgk879UmTFScMTdDV/o4vQ==
From "Bill Hunt" <Billh at aaai.com>
To: "Mike Gigante" <mikeg35au@yahoo.com.au>,
   "gerard"
  <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Cc: <millerls@ado13.com>, "Larry Pitts" <FUZZY95687@yahoo.com>,
   "Mike
  Gigante" <mg@sgi.com>, "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
  i0OJ5ZFG004488

Sounds good to me. Where and when?
 
Herby 
64 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 
billh@aaai.com 
http://www.herbytoys.com 

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Mike Gigante [mailto:mikeg35au@yahoo.com.au] 
	Sent: Sat 1/24/2004 9:19 AM 
	To: gerard; spridgets@autox.team.net 
	Cc: millerls@ado13.com; Larry Pitts; Mike Gigante; Glen Byrns; Bill Hunt 
	Subject: Re: FWD:Mike Gigante In MV late tonight
	
	

	
	What about Sunday? I have Sunday totally free, so that
	might be a better choice.
	
	Mike
	
	
	http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals
	New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time.






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Thread-Topic: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels, now driving test
From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels, now driving test
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:13:09 -0800
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I was failed in Connecticut for "freewheeling" - putting the clutch in
too early (but leaving the car in gear) while approaching a stop sign,
FWIW.
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Michael Graziano
Sent: 1/23/2004 4:12:51 PM
To: Guy.Weller@kencomp.net;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels 

In NY, if you take a driving test with a manual tranny, and you leave
the 
car in gear with your foot on the clutch at a light or stop sign, you 
automatically fail. At least, that's how I remember it. In other states,
if you take it out of gear at a light or stop sign, you fail..... 

This had nothing to do with the current conversation, but I thought I'd 
mention it.... 

Mike 






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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:14:27 -0800
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Yeah, I can see the resemblance...  ;-)
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Phil Vanner
Sent: 1/23/2004 5:24:02 PM
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: MIke's Visit from OZ 

Last week Mike told me that John Sprinzel once described him as
resembling 
the Michelin Man. 

Since he was imbibing at the time, I guess it was appropriate. 

Phil 




"....as neither of us remembered to tell 
the other what we looked like" 



. 






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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
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   <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Reality TV
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:29:08 -0800
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Hee hee! How about OSS: O Shit! Spridgets!
 
Follow the Sprigeteers around as they stop by a listers house and get
another one on the road! 
;-)
 
-=Chris


<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Charles Christ
Sent: 1/24/2004 10:23:04 AM
To: type79@ix.netcom.com;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Reality TV 

i think the video portion would get by the sensors....but the
audio......no 
"#&$**$^$^%#" way! LOL! :) 

chuck. 
hmmm osbournes became a hit and most of the show is sharon yelling
"ozzy" or 
expletives getting "bleeped"! so ya know sumpthin, we gotta shot at
this! 
ROFLMAO! 
-----Original Message----- 
From Jay Fishbein 
To: spridgets 
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2004 1:06 AM 
Subject: Re: Reality TV 


>But would it get by the censors? 
> 
>jay fishbein 
>wallingford, ct 
>http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ 
> 
>Marco wrote: 
> 
>> A camera following one of us trying to un-do and correct something a
DPO 
did 
>> would make a great show. 






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From Jay Fishbein <type79 at ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels, now driving test
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More proof that nothing's free in this state. Except if you're elected 
to public office, of course. (rim-shot!)

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Chris King wrote:

> I was failed in Connecticut for "freewheeling" - putting the clutch in
> too early (but leaving the car in gear) while approaching a stop sign,
> FWIW.






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From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (Richard Feibusch)
Subject: The Lucas Song
Cc: MorrisMinors@smartgroups.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:33:37 -0800

The Lucas Song

(Sung to the tune of: The Battle Hymn of the Republic)

Let me tell you all the story
of a patron of the Arts;

His name was Joseph Lucas
and he made electric parts;

He put them into Morrises,
MGs and Golfing carts;

But his parts don't work no more.

<Chorus>
Glory, Glory, Prince of Darkness
Glory, Glory, Prince of Darkness
Glory, Glory, Prince of Darkness
His parts don't work no more

For those of you who think we're
speaking sacreligiously;

Remember that that we're victims
of the Lucas Company;

The title "Prince of Darkness"
come from spotty quality;

'Cause his parts don't work no more.

<Chorus>

Now, Joseph was an expert
in the voltage and the amps;

His first job in the business
was extinguishing street lamps;

They called him "Prince of Darkness"
back when he wore knee pants;

And his parts don't work no more.

<Chorus>

Master Lucas was intent upon
expanding his career;

He would build refirgerators
for his country dear;

Now that's the very reason
why the English drink warm beer;

'Cause his parts don't work no more

<Chorus>

When Joseph lay a-dying
very near the end of life;

His family gathered 'round him
and were seeking his advice;

The only words the man could say
were "Don't drive at night"

'Cause his parts don't work no more

<Chorus>

So as you go a-driving
in your early MGA;

Remember that the Ghost of Lucas
rides with you each day;

You'd better have a flashlight
and a battery or two;

'Cause his parts don't work no more.

<Chorus>






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  i0OK9OFG007106

If any left coasters (well I guess only NorCal ones!) would like to meet up with Mike the tentative schedule plan is below. 
 
Herby 
64 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 
billh@aaai.com 
http://www.herbytoys.com 

Hey folks,

It looks like meeting tomorrow afternoon is good.
Gerard will be able to join us after he gets off work
at 5pm

I'm up for

a)a Sunday drive, ending up somewhere near SF at ~5pm
  so Gerard can join us for drinks/talk/dinner
depending on peoples interests and other committments

b)drinks/talk Sunday afternoon

c) drinks/talk dinner tomorrow night

d) all of the above :-)

Communications are a bit of a problem.

I do have my cell phone, but it is an international
roaming call for you guys

0011 61 417 657 467

Otherwise I'll be checking email late this afternoon
(3pm-ish), tomorrow morning (9-ish). If that doesn't
work then cell phone is the only real choice.

You could try leaving  a msg at the hotel, but I
may or may not get it in time.

I'm at the Hotel Avante in MV

1-650-940-1000, room 224

Bill, can you send something to the general spridget
list with the final meeting details?

I'm always keen to meet up with any listers who want
to chew the fat and talk cars.

cheers, Mike






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  Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:33:37 -0800

Richard F. !!

Cool!! Did you create this? :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:57:04 -0500 (EST)
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  Jan 2004 14:36:25 -0500

"Freewheeling"

Ah, yes Chris....
......failure to take advantage of
mechanical braking to the extent
available....forshame!!!! <VBG>




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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  EST

Chris...ass-u-me(ing) Series A Spridget

Looking down at it:

CW  = Advance (higher rpm assuming you
are not overadvanced to begin with..in which case it will "spit back" as
the motor
attempts to run backwards!:).




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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  Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:33:51 -0800

Call it as I see it! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:46:53 -0500

not freewheeling!  that was "coasting".  the saab's freewheel!

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: Jay Fishbein <type79@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2004 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels, now driving test


>"Freewheeling"
>
>Ah, yes Chris....
>......failure to take advantage of
>mechanical braking to the extent
>available....forshame!!!! <VBG>






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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:52:17 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
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Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels, now driving test
  24 Jan 2004 17:46:53 -0500

I stand corrected!!

You are (of course), absolutely right. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: PilotRob@webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[2]: i'm REALLY lazy
References: GreenBugeye@aol.com's message of Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:45:18 
  EST <14290-4012DD3C-3381@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net>

Hello Robert,

       so the rotor inside turns anti-clockwise?




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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  15:00:09 -0800

I ass-u-me so, Bill...

...but it's been God knows how long since
I've been "in there" looking at one as the
engine operates. Usually I am behind the
wheel driving the thing!! :):):)

But seriously, it's amazing how one loses
track of even the simplest things....after
converting from points to "electronic" 
(like going back at least 20 years) I
only go in there to lube the dist. once in
a while, the timing being set dynamically
as to total advance with a programmable
timing light.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)
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Hello Robert,

       so the rotor inside turns anti-clockwise?




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Tire'ed of playing the game

Well, I thought I was going to get a set of Dunlops mounted up at Sam's Club on my newly painted rims.  It turns out that they can't balance the things on their machine.  I like buying tires there as I don't have to play the extra fee (mounting, balancing, stem, road hazard, etc.) game that practically doubles the cost of tires at other places, but their failed attempt at balancing screwed up a nice base / clear coat paint job on the first rim.

I came back by Firestone, but that quickly went into extra fee hell, so I bailed out of there.

I'd not only like suggestions on where to shop but what tires to put up on Rostyle's.

 - Kendel






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From "Jacques Le Clainche" <hobbycars at cox.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Tire'ed of playing the game
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:56:35 -0800

Don't know if there is a Costco near you... I just bought five TR speed
rated Bridgestone Potenza 910 (175/70 X 13) from the Costco in Santee (San
Diego County). Price "out of the door" (mounted, balanced, taxed) was
$248.55 for five tires. Only complaint I have is I specifically asked the
Costco technicians to put on "stick on" weights on the inside of my alloy
wheels. They did put the weights on the inside of the rims, but they used
"clip on" weights, which damages the alloy rim.

That was for my Lotus 7, but I would think those tires would be very
suitable for a Spridget. Are the rostyles 4.5" or 5" in width? The
acceptable rim width for 175/70 X 13 tires is from 4.5" to 6". I have 5.5"
wheels on the Lotus. I put 22lbs pressure in the tires as a starting point.

Talking about tires... If anyone is interested- I bought eight Dot rated
racing tires - BF Goodrich Comp T/A R1 SRF 185/60 X 13. I am not going to
use them and would sell them $30 each to any lister willing to pick them up.
The tires are brand new. Not interested in shipping, sorry.

Jacques LC in San Diego County


Kendel wrote:

Well, I thought I was going to get a set of Dunlops mounted up at Sam's Club
on my newly painted rims.  It turns out that they can't balance the things
on their machine.  I like buying tires there as I don't have to play the
extra fee (mounting, balancing, stem, road hazard, etc.) game that
practically doubles the cost of tires at other places, but their failed
attempt at balancing screwed up a nice base / clear coat paint job on the
first rim.

I came back by Firestone, but that quickly went into extra fee hell, so I
bailed out of there.

I'd not only like suggestions on where to shop but what tires to put up on
Rostyle's.






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:59:04 -0500 (EST)
To: kmmccarley@earthlink.net (Kendel McCarley)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game
  Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:20:16 -0800 (PST)

Kendal....

www.tires.com (Tire America)

There are a lot of good tires out there in
terms of brand names.

The originals were 145/13's but 155/13's
are excellent without going wider ('70's)
which will compromise (to some extent),
handling in the wet.

The '155' will put more tire down on the
road but the footprint will grow "longer"
rather than "wider". Handling (grip) will
improve accordingly without the foregoing
compromise to that extent, while allowing
more tire to stay UNDER the stock rim
rather than riding outside it (as in a "70")
which is also better for "tighter" handling.

The greater circumference of the 155
relative to the 145 will have a minor affect
on your speedometer and final drive gearing. Very minor..not worth going
into,
really.

I have found that Dunlops (some) have
a rougher and noisier ride than the
T/A Touring I currently use (which I have
found to be all around excellent at 
reasonable cost) but I am sure you will
hear from others using other excellent
brands/treads as well.

I am sorry I cannot help you on balancing
Rostyles. Have had Western's for many
moons. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Rick" <webmasterrick at comcast.net>
To: "Kendel McCarley" <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:09:17 -0600

Kendel:

Ed says ( and I TOTALLY agree):

"
Garbage, Kendel!!!

Where it WW, OK.  Rostyles?  POC.

Go back and get the Service Manager.  Or at worst, STORE Manager.

Blind guys can do Rostyles correctly!

Ed

PS:  BTDT!
"

Rick






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To: spridgets@autox.team.net
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This may seem far-fetched, so excuse me for suggesting it, but how about 
patronizing a legitimate local business.

Costco? Sam's Club?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Jacques Le Clainche wrote:

> Don't know if there is a Costco near you... 
> Kendel wrote:
> 
> Well, I thought I was going to get a set of Dunlops mounted up at Sam's Club
> on my newly painted rims.  






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:43:16 EST
Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game
To: kmmccarley@earthlink.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/24/04 3:31:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
kmmccarley@earthlink.net writes:


> I'd not only like suggestions on where to shop but what tires to put up on 
> Rostyle's.
> 

I buy the Pirelli P400 Touring tire.  It is a great looking and handling 
tire.  I have been getting it from the Tire Rack online then having it mounted at 
a local shop that can do it.  Have to pay shipping but no sales tax.  About $8 
a tire to mount and balance.

--David C.






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From TATERRY at aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:54:57 EST
Subject: Re: The Lucas Song
To: ddubois@sinclair.net, rfeibusch1@earthlink.net
CC: morris@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net,
   MorrisMinors@smartgroups.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/24/04 14:20:04 Pacific Standard Time, 
ddubois@sinclair.net writes:

<< I think that a fitting additional verse to this little ditty could 
 contain something to the effect that the majority of the problems with 
 Lucas electrics, rest squarley with owners that don't know anything 
 about electrical wiring and who do a trememdous job of screwing up 
 perfectly good wiring and parts. >>

Amen to that Dave......and the Lucas bad reputation is almost solely due to 
the car companies trying to use chassis grounds that were already painted.  Run 
your battery ground (wheather + or -) to your starter motor- use welding 
cable, put star washers under all your ground connections, make sure you have a 
good ground strap from your engine to the chassis and run extra ground wires to 
your headlights....you'll curse Mr. Lucas no more!!  
Terry in Oakland






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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:22:29 -0500
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From "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Subject: NEW 1100 Block

I see a "new" 1100 block advertised on eBay (item 2456227586). I didn't 
know there was such a thing as a new block in 2004. Who is making them?

Tim






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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:22:27 -0500 (EST)
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Cc: ddubois@sinclair.net, rfeibusch1@earthlink.net, morris@autox.team.net,
   mg-t@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net, MorrisMinors@smartgroups.com,
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: The Lucas Song

Good advice, Terry. 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: Bill L <pythias@pacifier.com>
CC: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: i'm REALLY lazy
References: GreenBugeye@aol.com's message of Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:45:18  
  EST <14290-4012DD3C-3381@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net>
  <187379804.20040124150009@pacifier.com>

Bill L wrote:
> Hello Robert,
> 
>        so the rotor inside turns anti-clockwise?

Yes.
Move the dizzy forward to advance.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Subject: Adjustable Armstrong Shocks on Ebay
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:49:49 -0500

Can anybody tell me if these Adjustable Armstrong shocks listed on ebay
correct for a later MK III Sprite?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=34200
&item=2455837955

Thanks in advance for any advice that you all can give.

Lotus Jockey






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From Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game

One has to understand that customer service does not exist in the Southwest.  The Sam's Club in Tucson is incredibly poorly run.  The store manager is a 26 year old, petite gal who doesn't give a damn about complaints.  I went several rounds with her trying to return a sour gallon of milk once.  I've also had the tire shop manager blatantly lie to me and tell me that they couldn't order what they didn't have, even if other Sam's Clubs had it.  I had to complain to district about that one.

As far as "local" stores go, these guys don't give a crap either.  Stores are filthy and customers are got with "come ons" instead of service.  The challenge is getting some guy to actually get off his fat ass to give up some information.  Any question seems to be met with resentment... heavy sighs and rolled eyes.  It's pretty much a "don't care" and "tough shit buddy" attitude around here.  There's a big motive to deal with large chain stores who have national policies in place that can't get screwed with by the locals, although they do try. 

I enjoy shopping when east of New Mexico.  It's nice dealing with people who want to help a customer... or can even make change for a purchase.  I've been living here since 1988 and the best way I've heard it put was a few weeks ago when an A-10 pilot out of Davis-Monthan I was chatting with remarked, "There's a whole lot of stupid in this town".

Of course, this whole rant excludes Ernie's British Cars here in Tucson.  I drive across town and by a much closer place (Europarts, over on Stone Avenue) to give them my business.

 - Kendel "fifty miles from the border" McCarley


-----Original Message-----
From Rick <webmasterrick at comcast.net>
Sent: Jan 24, 2004 4:09 PM
To: Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game

Kendel:

Ed says ( and I TOTALLY agree):

"
Garbage, Kendel!!!

Where it WW, OK.  Rostyles?  POC.

Go back and get the Service Manager.  Or at worst, STORE Manager.

Blind guys can do Rostyles correctly!

Ed

PS:  BTDT!
"

Rick






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Kendel McCarley wrote:

>Well, I thought I was going to get a set of Dunlops mounted up at Sam's Club on my newly painted rims.  It turns out that they can't balance the things on their machine.  I like buying tires there as I don't have to play the extra fee (mounting, balancing, stem, road hazard, etc.) game that practically doubles the cost of tires at other places, but their failed attempt at balancing screwed up a nice base / clear coat paint job on the first rim.
>  
>
Look around for a local tire guy.  I use a guy in New Brunswick.  He has 
better prices then Costco.  It is a couple of guy shop and all they do 
is mount and balance tires.  They don't even have a lift or garage.  You 
pull in on a concrete pad they jack up the car with floor jacks and away 
they go.  They charge you one price for mounting, and balancing and a 
fee if you want them to dispose of the tires.  I have seen wire wheels 
in the shop.  They do good work and will get you what ever tires you 
want.  I like using the small guy, as he remembers me, and the tires I 
put on the car.  That is my advice.

Gilroy






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  <40130A91.70003@ix.netcom.com>

type79@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> This may seem far-fetched, so excuse me for suggesting it, but how about 
> patronizing a legitimate local business.

Exactly! Even when I buy tires from Tire Rack, my local (owned) shop 
mounts them for me. The last time it was no charge.
I do get there late in the day and I know what brand of beer they like.
I also toss them a $20 when ever they do something for nothing which is 
a few times a year. I stop there with my pick up to get the nail holes 
plugged regularly too.  BUT when I need tires for my truck or other car, 
I go there and tell them what I want. I don't shop around. they know me 
and treat me right.
And now they know how to do wire wheels. They told me they didn't want 
to hurt them and I told them to try one and see if they could do it.
I went for the beer, when I came back, he was all excited and said it 
was simple as long as you do it the old school way. So I told him to put 
some new rubber on all the wires. He was worried about tubes, none in 
stock but said since all the old tires held air, he would try to save 
the tubes. He did.
Try THAT at a major chain store. In fact, when I went for tires "on 
sale" at a major chain, they would not sell me tubeless tires for wire 
wheels because there was a "liability" factor in using the wrong tires.
I told them the 20 year old tires already on the wire wheels are 
"tubless" they worked back then.
Since then I don't even think about anybody but my local guys.
They even let (make) me jack up the Sprite and undo the lug nuts.
and they let me use their impact gun but I do the final tighening by hand.

If everyone avoids their local owned merchant, there will soon be no 
local owned shops.
Try getting a Bugeye windhield installed at a chain owned glass shop.
Wire wheels done a chain owned tire shop.
Ask Dunkin Donuts if they can write 12 little kids names on each donut 
for a birthday party?
Ask Pepboys if they will let you dig thru their brake light switches so 
you can find a mechanical one to adapt to some old english car?

Imagine a world where shopping means either Wal*Mart or Home Defect only!



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at worldnet.att.net>
To: "'Bill L'" <pythias@pacifier.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: i'm REALLY lazy
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:21:05 -0800

Easy question,  Advance/forward, retard/rearward,  That would be
clockwise to advance counterclockwise to retard ( unless you have a
digital clock and then your on your own).
		Crash 

Hello spridgets,

          ok, its a given. i'm lazy...but i have a question.

          which way does the dizzy turn to advance timing, and which
          way to retard... somebody knows this, and i don't feel like
          hooking up the timing light and running the car in the
          garage,. (a safety issue?) and its tooo wet outside to take
          the car OUT of the garage.

          TIA

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   '66 Sprite






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>, "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>
Subject: Re: NEW 1100 Block

From "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>


I see a "new" 1100 block advertised on eBay (item 2456227586). I didn't 
know there was such a thing as a new block in 2004. Who is making them?

Tim



 Yes Tim i seen that also, but my question is when did new blocks
 come rusted out ?
 

 Larry



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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: lucas-pukus?
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:31:24 -0500

remember one of the largest electrical contractors on the concorde was
lucas!

chuck.
it's a good thang i know nutin about nutin but dem dare karz!    :)






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Maiden Voyage

Well today I finally drove the Yellow Bugeye for the first time since 
it's retirement in July of 2003. Back then it was my daily driver with a 
1275 and a 5 speed.
Now it is a stock 948 with a smoothcase tranny.
But I drove around the neighborhood today with no windshield.
Talk about nadsicles!
The car ran great but the water pump bearing decided to go south on me.
I guess it had a right to go bad since it was an original cast iron 
water pump. I already replaced it.
And that damn aluminum thing under the heater valve was corroded and 
pitted on the underside enough that it leaked coolant all over the nice 
clean engine, trans, and engine bay.
Does anybody make repros of these things? I sanded it flat and gooped it 
up, it stopped leaking. I do not have any unstripped spares of these 
things. I have a bunch of heater valves but no base plates.

Also, how long does vasoline take to burn off a flywheel and pressure 
plate? I sanded the f/wheel and p/plate and I lightly smeared them with 
vasoline to keep them from rusting before I fired up the engine.
the clutch was slipping a bit. So if the disc is good, my clutch slipage 
is either still due to the grease job or because my master cylinder rod 
is out of adjustment. Correct? I hope. The clutch disc was from my pile 
of who knows what stock. It might even be new, it looked damn near new 
so I used it. No glaze and lots of meat on it so it shouldn't slip.

If anybody is interested, I posted pictures (taken AFTER my drive)
There is also a shot of the glass washer bottle.

http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/bugeye1.jpg      (exterior)

http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/bugeye2.jpg      (underhood)

http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/bugeye3.jpg      (dash)


Frank






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   "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>
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Subject: Re: NEW 1100 Block
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:38:31 -0500

Maybe the seller is meaning N.O.S. ?  Still seems highly unlikely but who
knows.

Lotus Jockey
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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>; "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>
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Subject: Re: NEW 1100 Block


> From: "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>
>
>
> I see a "new" 1100 block advertised on eBay (item 2456227586). I didn't
> know there was such a thing as a new block in 2004. Who is making them?
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>  Yes Tim i seen that also, but my question is when did new blocks
>  come rusted out ?
>
>
>  Larry






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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Timothy H. Collins wrote:

> I see a "new" 1100 block advertised on eBay (item 2456227586). I didn't 
> know there was such a thing as a new block in 2004. Who is making them?

Probably new old stock. Made new in 65, sold to someone or someplace but 
never used. Now it's still "new" as in never used but I seriously doubt 
it was made in 2004.


-- 
Frank Clarici
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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   "Michael Carpenter"
  <MAIL4CARPENTERS@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Adjustable Armstrong Shocks on Ebay

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From "Michael Carpenter" <MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com>
Date:  Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:49:49 -0500

Can anybody tell me if these Adjustable Armstrong shocks listed on ebay
correct for a later MK III Sprite?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=34200
&item=2455837955

Thanks in advance for any advice that you all can give.

Lotus Jockey


 You might aswell find out if ? Cant remeber who that rebuilds them but,
 i think it's either peter or Paul, anyway find out if they can rework
 them like the ones that arent adjustable.
 They say he's the best when it comes to lever shocks.

  Larry



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From "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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  <40130A91.70003@ix.netcom.com> <40132664.5070804@exit109.com>
Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:05:09 -0600

> Ask Pepboys if they will let you dig thru their brake light switches so
> you can find a mechanical one to adapt to some old english car?

Ask? Heck! Pepboys has INVITED me to sort through their stock of exhaust
donuts to try to find one to fit a Midget and to peruse their books to
search for a heater valve. Must be those Jersey Pepboys...
David Lieb






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From Lester Ewing <lewing at sport.rr.com>
Subject: Which manual?
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:19:38 -0600

Ok folks,

since this vehicle has one more cylinder in a row than I am used to can 
someone recommend *the* manual to purchase so I don't bung up the 
muffler bearings?

TIA

Lester






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Subject: Re: Which manual?
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:30:32 -0600

OH GREAT! You did have to send in an inflammatory request like that, didn't
you?
The principle choice is between the Haynes manual and the Bentley reprint of
the factory manual. Both manuals have strengths and weaknesses. Get both ;-)
David Lieb






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Subject: Re: Which manual?
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:46:25 -0600

heh..  and where is the best place to purchase said manuals?

Lester


..and thanks!

On Jan 24, 2004, at 10:30 PM, David Lieb wrote:

> OH GREAT! You did have to send in an inflammatory request like that, 
> didn't
> you?
> The principle choice is between the Haynes manual and the Bentley 
> reprint of
> the factory manual. Both manuals have strengths and weaknesses. Get 
> both ;-)
> David Lieb






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References: <CMEIKFJKPBLECCOGAGLECEEDDAAA.hobbycars@cox.net>  
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David Lieb wrote:

  Must be those Jersey Pepboys...

Yeah, Maybe Manny Moe, & Jack would let you root thru their stuff, but
here we have the NEW pepboys, ching, chang, and wang.
They are like those guys in the southwest.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
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David Lieb wrote:

> The principle choice is between the Haynes manual and the Bentley reprint 

Ditto
But use only chrome muffler bearings regardless of what either book 
tells you ;)
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From Lester Ewing <lewing at sport.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Which manual?
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:58:37 -0600

AhHa..  so this is an "old school" list.  Lissen Gramps, we now use 
carbon fibre or ceramic muffler bearins with NOZZzzzzz...  ;-)

Lester


On Jan 24, 2004, at 10:49 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> David Lieb wrote:
>
>> The principle choice is between the Haynes manual and the Bentley 
>> reprint
>
> Ditto
> But use only chrome muffler bearings regardless of what either book 
> tells you ;)
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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References: <B0645F70-4EED-11D8-B0FF-000A95771166@sport.rr.com> 
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Lester Ewing wrote:

> AhHa..  so this is an "old school" list.  Lissen Gramps, we now use 
> carbon fibre or ceramic muffler bearins with NOZZzzzzz...  ;-)

I would use them too but I can't find any not made in china ;)
I'm sticking to chrome.
Now about them transintoxicator relay valves........



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 24 23:03:15 2004
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Subject: Listers in Oregon Area?

If there is there anyone who could look at a car for me in the Florence, 
Oregon area, please contact me offlist
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jay fishbein
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From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
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Subject: [Fwd: Re: Which manual?]
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 6:37:49 +0000

Oh man... When are youse guys gonna come into the new millennium? That old muffler bearing joke has a basis in reality! Muffler bearings are made out of hard rubber and make less than half the noise of a steel bearing!!! That's why they call them MUFFLER bearings...

Now framizit rods, rubulater valves, shift shaft return springs and gozinta bolts are items to worry about.

Kent
1960 Bugeye

Ditto
But use only chrome muffler bearings regardless of what either book 
tells you ;)
-- 
Frank Clarici






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Three cheers for Ernie!  Boy, do I agree!
Bill

Kendel McCarley wrote:

>Of course, this whole rant excludes Ernie's British Cars here in Tucson.  I drive across town and by a much closer place (Europarts, over on Stone Avenue) to give them my business.






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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:29:18 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: i'm REALLY lazy
  Jan 2004 20:42:02 -0500

I like this....

"go forward to advance"

The KISS principle in it's most logical
form...very good Mr. C.!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:50:00 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game
  Jan 2004 21:13:56 -0500

Well...

I couldn't agree more about supporting the
local small businessman if at all possible.

But sometimes the local guy will try to
rip you off when he's the only game in
town. Sports & Classics used to be this
way and despite the fact he's right up 
the road from me, I stopped doing business with him for years,
preferring
to wait for parts from VB and others rather
than giving him my hard earned cash.

Times have changed and so has S&C
which has allowed me to renew our
relationship. Which is a definite "win/win"
situation for all concerned, of course.

I've been doing business with the same
mech for 30 years plus now. But he's
worth it and it is absolutely true that if
you do not support the local guy in giving
him your business (even if you have to 
pay a bit more....think of it as an 
insurance policy or investment in your
own future well-being), he may not be
around when you need him.

Good thing he's younger than me. I 
should go before he does so my BE
should be OK!! :)

OTOH, some local businesses need
replacement by the (yechhh!) Walmarts, etc.!!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:04:19 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Maiden Voyage
  Jan 2004 21:33:36 -0500

Hey, Frank...

Those heater valve base "plates" or gaskets possibly come in a cylinder
head
conversion gasket set I wonder?

You drove around yesterday without the
windshield....COOL! (Oh, man....I just
crack myself up some times:):):))

That yellow looks pretty close to Primrose
and God, how humungous the original
steering wheels really were. I been using
13" ones for twenty years now. Than GD
thing could steer a bus!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:14:25 -0500 (EST)
To: cfchrist@earthlink.net (Charles Christ)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: lucas-pukus?
  24 Jan 2004 21:31:24 -0500

Yeah...

Lucas isn't really that bad at all but it's
fun goin' after them, anyway!!!

The state of the automotive art was as
it was back in the 60's. Our LBC's weren't
priced like Rolls-Royce's either. And
the 50's post war average Americans I
knew weren't into preventative maintenance.

They were more into buying a new car
every four years or so! 

The Canadair CL44's, Fokker F28's and
BAE3100's and 146's I flew were all Lucas and not in the least
problematic, 
electrically speaking.

Still, it's fun to attack them!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Tire'ed of playing the game/no lbc
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:28:40 -0600
  with any abuse report

we had a hail storm come thru here in 2001, and there was an influx of storm
chasers, from Ok, and other points south and west. They came into town, cut
roofing  prices everywhere, and ended up with a lot ( A LOT ) of business.
People would ask me to match their prices, and when I would refuse, they
said well "you know what I have to do" and I said yeah, pretty well do.

fast forward 3 years, their is not one week goes by, and I am not
exaggerating, that one of these "old customers" calls and tells me that
their roof is leaking, I do a little research in the old computer, and say,
hmm, didn't roofrex or Ameriroof, reroof America, do yours? and they say
well yeah they did what's the point?  Makes my friggin day to tell em to
call for the warranty from them guys, and hear customer say "I cant seem to
get a hold of them anymore"  And then I proceed to tell em, my prices are a
bit higher, because I AM here 3 years later, and I stand behind my work. And
further more, I am not going to do a cheap repair on those butchers work,
and end up "marrying" this lousy work for a few hundred dollars.

There is justice in the world, sometimes it just takes a while to see it,
but when the lady takes off her blindfold, well it warms the cackles of yer
heart LOL

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:50 AM
To: Frank Clarici
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game


Well...

I couldn't agree more about supporting the
local small businessman if at all possible.

But sometimes the local guy will try to
rip you off when he's the only game in
town. Sports & Classics used to be this
way and despite the fact he's right up
the road from me, I stopped doing business with him for years,
preferring
to wait for parts from VB and others rather
than giving him my hard earned cash.

Times have changed and so has S&C
which has allowed me to renew our
relationship. Which is a definite "win/win"
situation for all concerned, of course.

I've been doing business with the same
mech for 30 years plus now. But he's
worth it and it is absolutely true that if
you do not support the local guy in giving
him your business (even if you have to
pay a bit more....think of it as an
insurance policy or investment in your
own future well-being), he may not be
around when you need him.

Good thing he's younger than me. I
should go before he does so my BE
should be OK!! :)

OTOH, some local businesses need
replacement by the (yechhh!) Walmarts, etc.!!






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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:02:33 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com (Wm. Thompson)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: RE: Tire'ed of playing the game/no lbc
  Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:28:40 -0600

"Fast forward 3 years:

Absolutely, Willy....

A case of "pay me now or pay me later"
when the local guy can provide quality
work at reasonable prices. As I said, in
such a circumstance, the buyer should
be looking ahead to his future well being,
most certainly so when the insurance co.
is most likely paying for the work, anyway.

So be it!! "They" made their bed, after all.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Thread-Topic: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels, now driving test
From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <cfchrist@earthlink.net>, <PilotRob@webtv.net>, <type79@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels, now driving test
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True, true. But that's what the testing dude called it. His error... :)
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Charles Christ
Sent: 1/24/2004 5:50:53 PM
To: PilotRob@webtv.net;type79@ix.netcom.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels, now driving test 

not freewheeling! that was "coasting". the saab's freewheel! 

chuck. 
-----Original Message----- 
From Robert E. Shlafer 
To: Jay Fishbein 
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net 
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2004 3:57 PM 
Subject: Re: Puzzler , now lightened flywheels, now driving test 


>"Freewheeling" 
> 
>Ah, yes Chris.... 
>......failure to take advantage of 
>mechanical braking to the extent 
>available....forshame!!!! 






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From "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at hotmail.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: New Haynes Manual
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:27:11 -0800
  FILETIME=[D9639410:01C3E370]

This is for those who thought Haynes manuals weren't very useful.

<http://www.haynes.co.uk/sexmanual.asp>

And no, this is not a joke. I pulled it directly from Hayne's UK site.

The above came from the Wedge site.

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From "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at hotmail.com>
To: MAIL4CARPENTERS@peoplepc.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Adjustable Armstrong Shocks on Ebay
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:57:15 -0800
  FILETIME=[0CA82210:01C3E375]

I'd be interested in knowing just how the 'adjustment' actually works.  If 
you purchase these shocks, perhaps you could photo the internals.  Should be 
something fairly easy to fabricate.

WFO Herb




>Can anybody tell me if these Adjustable Armstrong shocks listed on ebay
>correct for a later MK III Sprite?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=34200
>&item=2455837955

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The link or pic didn't make it here. I assume you mean the new BABY
workshop manual. Very amusing!
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: WFO Herb
Sent: 1/25/2004 1:30:11 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: New Haynes Manual 

This is for those who thought Haynes manuals weren't very useful. 



And no, this is not a joke. I pulled it directly from Hayne's UK site. 

The above came from the Wedge site. 

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Even more amusing! I suppose after this one they did need to write a
baby one, eh? ;-)
 
-=Chris


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: WFO Herb
Sent: 1/25/2004 2:07:35 PM
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu
Subject: Re: New Haynes Manual 

Wonder why? 

Anyway, try this... 

http://www.haynes.co.uk/sexmanual.asp 

Herb 


>From: "Chris King" 
>To: , 
>Subject: Re: New Haynes Manual 
>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:55:49 -0800 
> 
>The link or pic didn't make it here. I assume you mean the new BABY 
>workshop manual. Very amusing! 
> 
>-=Chris 






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: New Haynes Manual
To: Chris King <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

sex manual, but c/e

--- Chris King <cbking@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
> The link or pic didn't make it here. I assume you mean the new BABY
> workshop manual. Very amusing!
>  
> -=Chris
> 
> <-----Original Message----->
> 
>  	  	 From: WFO Herb
> Sent: 1/25/2004 1:30:11 PM
> To: spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: New Haynes Manual 
> 
> This is for those who thought Haynes manuals weren't very useful. 
> 
> 
> 
> And no, this is not a joke. I pulled it directly from Hayne's UK
> site. 
> 
> The above came from the Wedge site. 
> 
> WFO 
> Keep the sticky side down! 
> 
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From TeachJP at aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:07:33 EST
Subject: Re: lucas-pukus?
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

I usually spend most of my time as a lurker, but I have to put my two cents 
in on the Lukas discussion.   In 70 I purchased one of the last sprites brought 
into the USA, obviously it was near the end of the run since it was already a 
model year old when I bought it.   During the tenure that this car had with 
me, the voltage regulator was replaced on a regular, 3 month, basis and I had 
three electrical fires, three batteries (not counting the ones replaced as part 
of the fire rewirings).   After each fire the dealer supposedly put a whole 
new wiring harness in, with extra heavy ground connections, and yet after I got 
some nice burns on my hand in the 3rd fire, I finally had to kiss the Prince 
of Darkness good-bye.   My take on the switch markings of off and flicker was 
off or on fire.   In truth, my 79 has not had a single electirical problem 
except that the clock doesn't work.   (I am knocking on some real wood right 
now.)   Back in 71, you could tell my car from the acrid smell of burnt insulation 
and the thin blue smoke trailing after...

John Poynton
79 Midget, Yellow Fever
Havertown, PA






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sun Jan 25 15:10:31 2004
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:10:11 EST
Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game/no lbc
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com, PilotRob@webtv.net
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/25/2004 8:28:31 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
willy@thompsoncarpentry.com writes:
say,
hmm, didn't roofrex or Ameriroof, reroof America, do yours? and they say
well yeah they did what's the point?  Makes my friggin day to tell em to
call for the warranty from them guys, and hear customer say "I cant seem to
get a hold of them anymore"  And then I proceed to tell em, my prices are a
bit higher, because I AM here 3 years later, and I stand behind my work. 
.

I met a group of these "blow into town roofers" on a plane a few years ago.  
We too had a severe hail storm here in El Paso a few years ago...it was July 
and there were 2-3 foot drifts of hail stones!!!

Anyway, this fellow with them explained what they did, and even told me how 
they find a local guy and set up a person to answer a second line in his 
office, so he gets all he can handle and a comission off all the rest that they take 
in his name!

Flolks call a local guy and get these gypsies!

Worst of both worlds it seems to me.


Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


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Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game/no lbc
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:58:35 -0800

Our roofer lives 3 doors up the road, the mechanic 1/2 mile, and the plumber
a little over a mile.  All of them work nights or weekends at no extra
charge. About as "local" as you can get!
Kate






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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:35:11 EST
Subject: Big Deal at Watkins Glen
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Hey youse:  Just a heads up.  Several listers (those of us driving the more 
upmarket MG version of Spridget) are already entered for the adrenalin and 
sweat roundy-round.  If you have never been to the Vintage Grand Prix at the Glen, 
and experienced the down-town festival with the cars doing the original 
street track, then you could do worse next fall!

John Deikis


To:  MG Vintage Racers

Re:  Collier  Cup  2004  Update,    January 2004 
       (Not for Publication - there will be a separate Press Release)

   The vision of over 100 racing MG's will become reality this
September!  The 50th Anniversary celebration of the Collier Trophy at
Watkins Glen with SVRA is approaching!  Mark you calendars for what is
building to be one of the greatest MG racing events ever - EVER!  Over
100 MG's RACING !  Many MG race enthusiasts are working hard to
support this SPECTACULAR MG race, but the hard core ones are: Mark
Palmer (MGVR Editor), Dick Powers (CC04 Event Coordinator), Bill
Hollingsworth (CC04 Advisor), and Greg Prehodka (MGVR Publicity
Coordinator).  They are encouraging EVERY MG racer to make this race!
They met this past week to continue their planning, and here is an
update on CC04 from that meeting:

Current  CC04  Planning  Highlights:

I.  SEVENTY-FIVE  (75) MG racers are ALREADY planning to come to CC04

II. There will be "TWO Collier Cup RACES" due to the large MG turnout!
For this year, each CC race group will choose its own co-winner for
the Collier Cup.  First, the older (& slower) Pre-War and T series
have their CC race on Saturday.  Second, the newer (& faster) A's B's
C's & Midgets race together on Sunday in their CC race.  But as a
special FEATURE for Sunday's CC race, "ALL the Racing MG's" will take
a parade pace lap together (Awesome photo op) on the track!  Then
Saturday's group will pull off after the pace lap, and Sunday's group
goes racing.  This also gives all MG racers a chance to watch the CC
MG race they are "not in".

III. MGVR has worked with SVRA to get MG racers an "Early Bird Discount" for 
CC04. SVRA is also being most generous in granting MG's from other clubs 
certain equipment waivers (details in MGVR newsletter) 

IV. MGVR's dinner at the event will be held Friday evening at the track's 
Glen Club.

V. MGVR members will receive area vacation literature sometime in February 
from WG area chambers of commerce (great family vacation area!).

VI. For the Watkins Glen downtown festival Friday afternoon, MG - as a group 
- will LEAD the drive to town and around the original course.  MG is the 
FEATURED GROUP!

VII. MG Racers will have their own paddock and information center at the 
track.

VIII. Doug Chadwick will again take a panoramic photo of all the MG racers.  
MGVR will have its own POSTER for the event, designed by George Herschell Jr., 
which each MG racer will get.  MGVR will have plenty of its own regalia at 
the event, including "CC04 car badges".

IX. NAMGAR and the New England MG 'T' Register are both having gatherings 
there in support of the race weekend.

X. We're working on getting several significant MG and Collier related people 
to join us for dinner & the weekend.  We're also trying to get several 
"historical MG's" to be on display.

XI. Besides the Collier Cup this weekend, remember there is also the "T Cup", 
the "Cornett Award" and the "MGVR Spirit Award".  We're working on getting a 
few other special awards also.

XII. This event will get SIGNIFICANT publicity, before and after the race.  
Also trying to line up some TV coverage.

XIII. The next MGVR newsletter with lots of supporting information, is "being 
mailed" now - as this e-mail goes out - and you should have it in a few days.

XIV. And besides - if you miss this event - you'll be too old to race at the 
100th anniversary of the Collier Trophy!

   We're on our way!  The clock is ticking!  Make your room
reservations (see newsletter) soon if you haven't already.  As we
already have 75 MG racers planning to come, it looks like there will
easily be well over 100 by race day!






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Subject: Buy Local

I agree Frank. I have a couple local guys that go way far out of their 
way for me and any one I've sent there. Carl E.






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Mike of Oz meeting
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:49:48 -0800

MIke Gigante just left my humble grease pit, headed to a rendezvous at
Gerard's place.  Michelin Man? No, I was more reminded of those guys you see
on the cable channel playing rugby.  If Mike didn't play a ton of rugby I'd be
surprised.  His timing was excellent, arriving just after I finished washing
the whole dang fleet.  The Morris is up and running, bugeye was washed and
ready to go for a scoot in the country and the new Mini and Austin were out in
the driveway so I could finally sweep out the garage.  Mike checked out the
fleet and got a look at the turbocharger before we took it out for a quick run
out of town.  I realized only later I should have handed him the key and let
him wind it up a bit.  I thought about it a bit and realized I've never
offered anyone the key.  Like the kid whose mom tells him to share his
favorite toy with a cousin, the hand might reach out, but the fingers are
clenched tight.  Sorry Mike, I'll work on it.

Pity he didn't have a bit more time, but he added in at least 4 hours of
driving to squeeze in a visit and still make Gerard's place.  After hearing
how he once brought home a 40' trailer full of of sprites from the US, my wife
decided that my level of addiction is still not a concern.  Hummmmmmm.....?

Glen






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From Miniac7 at aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:17:30 EST
Subject: Re: Big Deal at Watkins Glen
To: MGTD2@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

I couldn't agree more with the comments made by John, on experiencing the 
town of Watkins Glen, the track events at this historic racing circuit, and the 
thrill of actually lapping the "original" road circuit. Two years ago, Mini was 
the featured marque at the Zippo Vintage Gran Prix weekend in September.. 
Being a Mini owner I was able to participate in that event, and it is an 
understatement for me to say, it's one I will cherish forever. If you're an MG racer, 
owner or lover, you owe it to yourself to place this one on your 04' calendar.

Howard Collins
60' AH Bugeye
69 Austin Cooper S






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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:07:19 -0500 (EST)
To: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Tire'ed of playing the game/no lbc
  Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:58:35 -0800

Yep...

It's nice when you can do business with
local people...they sorta become part
of your "extended" family. A "win/win"
cooperative situation for all concerned.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:28:31 -0500 (EST)
To: TeachJP@aol.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: lucas-pukus?

John...

Not just the car, or Lucas necessarily.
based upon my 30 years of experience
with a variety of LBC's and Prince of
Darkness.

Your's was just a case of bad luck as this
car definitely had a gremlin running around in it. But, you also had a
dealer
problem in terms of attitude and/or
mechanics who were just not up to speed,
wouldn't (or were ordered not to by the boss) take the time, or just
preferred
the "aspirin for a headache" route of repair. Electrical trouble
shooting can be
a time consuming affair but it's not
rocket science. 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:05:06 -0500 (EST)
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net, froggi60@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: New Haynes Manual
  2004 11:06:18 -0800

Heh, heh....

The sex on the bonnet pix brings back
fond memories of my MGA!! :):):)

I wonder if this manual includes replacement parts or "upgrades" as
in "Stage 5 tuning" or something like
that?! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:07:10 -0500 (EST)
To: froggi60@hotmail.com (WFO Herb)
Cc: MAIL4CARPENTERS@peoplepc.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Adjustable Armstrong Shocks on Ebay
  2004 10:57:15 -0800

"I'd be interested in knowing just how the
adjustment works"

Peter C.? {80-<




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Mike of Oz meeting
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

--- Rick Neville <healeyrick@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 05:53:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: Rick Neville <healeyrick@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Mike of Oz meeting
> To: Glen Byrns <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>, spridgets
> <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> 
> Glen,
> 
> Don't feel too badly.  Anyone who saw Mike try to
> peel
> the tires off Frank's "PIECES" at the SpriteSpree
> autox figures you made the right decision :<>
> 
> Rick 
> 
> --- Glen Byrns <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> >   Mike checked out the
> > fleet and got a look at the turbocharger before we
> > took it out for a quick run
> > out of town.  I realized only later I should have
> > handed him the key and let
> > him wind it up a bit.  I thought about it a bit
> and
> > realized I've never
> > offered anyone the key.  Like the kid whose mom
> > tells him to share his
> > favorite toy with a cousin, the hand might reach
> > out, but the fingers are
> > clenched tight.  Sorry Mike, I'll work on it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Glen
> >

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Subject: Spridget Humor

I love this stuff.

A member of the Healey List says a friend has a Judson for sale and if 
interested, contact him off-list. After doing so, I receive a reply that 
   said this and nothing else: "It's in great shape...it's been 
rebuilt...he wouldn't have paid what he did unless it was worth 
it...he's got a really nice barn..." All pertinent details.

I ask for the sellers email so I can talk with him directly.

His response provides such additional info as: "I had it rebuilt." "It's 
painted the proper black crackle finish." "After insallation it, 
performed as it should." "I drove it no more than 100 miles."

Sounds convincing to ME.

To quote the immortal Mort Sahl: "It's the real stuff that's the funniest."

-- 
jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
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To: Spridgets@autox.team.net
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Front shock mountings
Cc: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com

So.... If a DFPO had stripped all 3 front shock mounting holes, drilled and 
tapped them to 1/2", and drilled out the shock holes to match, (and you 
need to replace the shocks otherwise) would you....
a) Replace the shocks and drill the replacements? (there are good reasons 
to NOT do this, shock-wise)

b) Heli-coil (or whatever brand) the holes in the frame back to 3/8"? Is 
that safe?

c) Do it right by welding in new plates? (we'd rather not go that far into 
the project at this time)

Suggestions welcome.   Thanks   Peter C.






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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
From Lester Ewing <lewing at sport.rr.com>
Subject: Run vs Concours
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:26:28 -0600

Ok, I don't even have the car yet but ...  what should I look for to 
determine if the car is a driver or a garage queen?  Serial numbers? 
Special bits?  What is rare and what isn't i guess..

Lester


soon a '59 bugeye






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From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Bugeye for Sale in Alabama
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:46:54 -0600

I have finally made the decision to sale my Bugeye...  I've owned it 20 yrs
and it's a decent car.  I've done lots of work to it over the years... but
it's not perfect by a lot... what it is, is a very nice bugeye starter car....

The reason I bought the car in the first place was a serious lack of rust...
it's got very little in the rockers  but they are not terminal by a bunch...
the floors are Solid and have no issues...

After several years of playing with it I decided to rebuild a 1275 for it with
a ribcage trans...  The motor has very little time on it and has a Kent Cam
and some mild port work to the head.  ( yes it runs rather nice )  For the
concours guys I did keep the 948 and smooth case trans that go in the car and
they can go with the car when it's sold or they can stay here... up to the
buyer I suppose.

I'm not a dealer, the reason I'm selling it is because I built it for my wife
who now constitutes an Ex wife... and frankly it's not doing what I think it
should be doing... which is making folks smile....

The selling price is going to be based on what goes with the car... but I'm
going to start the price at $7500... if it's to much then I suppose I'll lower
it... if it's to low then shame on me....   I'm not in this for the money so
negotiating up front isn't in my plan.... but after a month or so I'll come
down... the real question is will it be here in a month?

Keith ( I really do want to sell it to one of us... meaning folks who will
love and enjoy the hell out of the car... )






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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: New Haynes Manual
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:49:18 -0600
  with any abuse report

Capn writes

I wonder if this manual includes replacement parts or "upgrades"



Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)

hmm, bob
guess you have to be OLD to even wonder that (LMAO) never even crossed my
mind! (thinking its hard to improve on a good model)






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From "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Bugeye for Sale in Alabama
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:48:03 -0600

I have finally made the decision to sale my Bugeye...  I've owned it 20 yrs
and it's a decent car.  I've done lots of work to it over the years... but
it's not perfect by a lot... what it is, is a very nice bugeye starter car....

The reason I bought the car in the first place was a serious lack of rust...
it's got very little in the rockers  but they are not terminal by a bunch...
the floors are Solid and have no issues...

After several years of playing with it I decided to rebuild a 1275 for it with
a ribcage trans...  The motor has very little time on it and has a Kent Cam
and some mild port work to the head.  ( yes it runs rather nice )  For the
concours guys I did keep the 948 and smooth case trans that go in the car and
they can go with the car when it's sold or they can stay here... up to the
buyer I suppose.

I'm not a dealer, the reason I'm selling it is because I built it for my wife
who now constitutes an Ex wife... and frankly it's not doing what I think it
should be doing... which is making folks smile....

The selling price is going to be based on what goes with the car... but I'm
going to start the price at $7500... if it's to much then I suppose I'll lower
it... if it's to low then shame on me....   I'm not in this for the money so
negotiating up front isn't in my plan.... but after a month or so I'll come
down... the real question is will it be here in a month?

Keith ( I really do want to sell it to one of us... meaning folks who will
love and enjoy the hell out of the car... )






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To: "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>
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Subject: Re: Front shock mountings
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20040126100318.024b1b80@mailbag.com>
  from [151.198.110.166] at Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:14:24 -0600

Peter C. wrote:

> So.... If a DFPO had stripped all 3 front shock mounting holes, 
> drilled and tapped them to 1/2", and drilled out the shock holes to 
> match, (and you need to replace the shocks otherwise) would you....
> a) Replace the shocks and drill the replacements? (there are good 
> reasons to NOT do this, shock-wise)
>
> b) Heli-coil (or whatever brand) the holes in the frame back to 3/8"? 
> Is that safe?
>
> c) Do it right by welding in new plates? (we'd rather not go that far 
> into the project at this time)
>
Buy a shotgun, hunt him down and ream him out with a 12 gauge slug! 

Gilroy






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From "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
Cc: <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20040126100318.024b1b80@mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Front shock mountings
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:17:46 -0500

I would weld in new plates and do it right.  Back in 1969 I was zipping down
the 60 Freeway near Corona, CA at 65 mph when the left front shock mounting
bolts broke on my Bugeye.  The wheel folded in at the top and made steering
at that speed a real challenge!  Luckily for me and the car all that
happened was we tore up a bunch of grass in the center median and came to a
stop without hitting anything.  Yes, Martha - back then the 60 freeway was
just 4 lanes wide with a big wide grass strip down the middle.

If you say there are good reasons for not drilling the shocks (and you are
THE shock man Peter), then weld in new plates.  I wouldn't trust heli-coils
in that application either - too much stress on those threads.

Rick
same old '59 Bugeye since 1968

----- Original Message -----
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
To: <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
Cc: <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:17 AM
Subject: Front shock mountings


> So.... If a DFPO had stripped all 3 front shock mounting holes, drilled
and
> tapped them to 1/2", and drilled out the shock holes to match, (and you
> need to replace the shocks otherwise) would you....
> a) Replace the shocks and drill the replacements? (there are good reasons
> to NOT do this, shock-wise)
>
> b) Heli-coil (or whatever brand) the holes in the frame back to 3/8"? Is
> that safe?
>
> c) Do it right by welding in new plates? (we'd rather not go that far into
> the project at this time)
>
> Suggestions welcome.   Thanks   Peter C.



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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 10:32:09 2004
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Run vs Concours
References: <64B3E00F-501C-11D8-B5E4-000A95771166@sport.rr.com>

That's really personal taste, but assuming that you're talking about the 
car "as it sits" as opposed to "creating" an accurate original car, lack 
of rust and rot, original detail parts, ideally with rubber mats (but 
they are HARD to find), probably low mileage, lack of DPO repairs and 
modifications.

It's impractical to get into great detail here, but if you are 
interested in learning what consitiutes an original car I would suggest 
obtaining some Spridget books.

First and most important would be copies of factory parts manuals on the 
particular Sprite that interests you. They are regularly available on 
ebay. Terry Horler's book is very good and currently in print and 
available for around $22.00. I would also suggest Eric Dymock's book and 
  Geoffrey Healey's books. You want to examine period pictures of 
unmolested cars as well as contemporary pictures of perfect original 
unrestored cars.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Lester Ewing wrote:

> Ok, I don't even have the car yet but ...  what should I look for to 
> determine if the car is a driver or a garage queen?  Serial numbers? 
> Special bits?  What is rare and what isn't i guess..
> 
> Lester
> 
> 
> soon a '59 bugeye






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Subject: Re: Front shock mountings
From <rbc43 at starband.net>
To: <nosimport@mailbag.com>
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20040126100318.024b1b80@mailbag.com>
Cc: <Spridgets@autox.team.net>, <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>

> So.... If a DFPO had stripped all 3 front shock mounting holes, drilled
> and  tapped them to 1/2", and drilled out the shock holes to match, (and
> you  need to replace the shocks otherwise) would you....
> a) Replace the shocks and drill the replacements? (there are good
> reasons  to NOT do this, shock-wise)
>
>I would Helicoil or use another brand to get the holes back to 3/8". It
would be as safe as original.
Good luck!
Roger Cotting
60 Bugeye "Ironhead"
60 Bugeye project car
74 Midget sons car
80 TR8
95 Mitsu 3000GT "undergoing timing belt change"
79 Chevy pick up "Green Grunt"






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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:03:08 -0500 (EST)
To: type79@ix.netcom.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: Spridget Humor
  -0500

Yep...in another world...

...and maybe not by happenstance.

He likes it so much and it performed so
well ("as it should") that he's getting rid
of it. As far as a Series A goes... 

...making Judsons work "as they
should" (as in "as the maker's intended")
on today's unleaded pump octanes while
maintaining the stock ignition advance
curve (this combo being what gives you
the advertised increase in performance)
is simply not doable on a daily driver without "water" or more
preferably,
"alcohol/water" delivery/injection.

Nice for a showcar or occasional gently
driven "Sunday - nice sorta day for a 
ride in the countryside application" wherein a diet of 100RON+ racing
fuel
is reasonably affordable.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:28:34 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com (Wm. Thompson)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: RE: New Haynes Manual
  Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:49:18 -0600

LOL...

One must always be thinking "a head",
Willy!!

Tooltime Tim thinks 
we can all use a litte "re-wiring" and
"more power" from time to time! Who am
I to argue?? :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: Spridgets@autox.team.net
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Front shock mountings
Cc: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com

Thanks for all of the suggestions! It isn't any of my cars, btw.
I happen to have my 65 upside down at the moment, front suspension still 
on. I can see the plate for the inner-most shock bolt behind the spring. 
Are the other 2 bolts similarly fixed with an iron plate welded and tapped? 
Is it located under the rubber rebound bumper? The most appealing to my 
customer would be the longer correct bolts and nuts. He says it will be 
somewhat temporary. I just don't know the accessibility of the plate(s).

Oh, and the reason drilling the shock holes out to 1/2" might be 
problematic is that the casting is very thin on the outer rear most bolt 
hole. That's why there's a steel sleeve in that spot.

         Thanks again.   Peter C
=======

At 10:17 AM 1/26/2004, Peter C. wrote:
>So.... If a DFPO had stripped all 3 front shock mounting holes, drilled 
>and tapped them to 1/2", and drilled out the shock holes to match, (and 
>you need to replace the shocks otherwise) would you....
>a) Replace the shocks and drill the replacements? (there are good reasons 
>to NOT do this, shock-wise)
>
>b) Heli-coil (or whatever brand) the holes in the frame back to 3/8"? Is 
>that safe?
>
>c) Do it right by welding in new plates? (we'd rather not go that far into 
>the project at this time)
>
>Suggestions welcome.   Thanks   Peter C.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 11:57:33 2004
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From john.dagostino at comcast.net
To: "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>
Cc: Spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Front shock mountings
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:57:15 +0000

I have a similar situation on this broken down Sprite of mine that I'm fixing up.
The right front shock has been drilled to 7/16 and the mounting holes tapped accordingly. It looks like it's seen a lot of miles this way and I thought it was original until I removed the drivers side shock and saw that those bolts are 3/8.
As far as repairing, would you weld plates under the top plate, redrill and tap with 3/8? Or maybe use a weld-nut underneath? A Helicoil might actually be the best solution, I've used them on head bolts torqued to 65 ft/lbs without a problem.

What danger to the shock is there when drilled?

Oh well, just another repair in a long list of "repairs" done by the last owner.

J
> So.... If a DFPO had stripped all 3 front shock mounting holes, drilled and 
> tapped them to 1/2", and drilled out the shock holes to match, (and you 






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: RE: New Haynes Manual
To: "Wm. Thompson" <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

and as Henry Rollins taught us, detachable "parts" can be a serious
drawback.

--- "Wm. Thompson" <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com> wrote:
> Capn writes
> 
> I wonder if this manual includes replacement parts or "upgrades"
> 
> 
> 
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)
> 
> hmm, bob
> guess you have to be OLD to even wonder that (LMAO) never even
> crossed my
> mind! (thinking its hard to improve on a good model)


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To: Lester Ewing <lewing@sport.rr.com>
CC: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Which manual?
References: <B0645F70-4EED-11D8-B0FF-000A95771166@sport.rr.com> 
  <005d01c3e2fb$f8cf26e0$a400a8c0@gislaptop> 
  <40134AE4.70208@exit109.com>
  <22F7503D-4EF3-11D8-B0FF-000A95771166@sport.rr.com>
  from [151.198.110.166] at Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:21:20 -0600

Lester Ewing wrote:

> AhHa..  so this is an "old school" list.  Lissen Gramps, we now use 
> carbon fibre or ceramic muffler bearins with NOZZzzzzz...  ;-)
>
> Lester

Gramps?  Nobody has been named Lester in the last fifty years!  TPFIC

Gilroy






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 12:38:13 2004
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From John.Deikis at med.va.gov
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com, John.Deikis@med.va.gov
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: classic motorsports
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:37:13 -0600

I'd take the one that paid me the most.
Anyway, I don't like rich heiresses for their brains.  

-----Original Message-----
From willy at thompsoncarpentry.com [mailto:willy@thompsoncarpentry.com]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:57 PM
To: John.Deikis@med.va.gov
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: RE: classic motorsports


dude
 which Hilton sister would you "take"

aint one brain between em////// lol

-----Original Message-----
From John.Deikis at med.va.gov [mailto:John.Deikis@med.va.gov]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:06 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: classic motorsports


There seem to have been a lot of liberties taken with photos in that issue.
Like a game of "find the spoof."  How about the Allard-- now it's a
right-hand-drive, now it's a left-hand-drive.  Still, I have no regrets over
renewing my British Car subscription and getting Classic Motorsports.  Fun
mag, eventhough I can't afford a GT350 or a Cobra or a Griffith-TVR...at
least I know what they are, which is more than I can say for the sports cars
I see in the "popular press." Hey!  Howabout that new Farasseratti Barona
S&M 5000.  If I get one, I can only take out ONE of the Hilton sisters at a
time, unless I use the dickey seat.

Maybe I'm just an old fart!

JohnD
................................






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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:39:28 -0600
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Adjustable Armstrong Shocks on Ebay
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20040124202049.00bb5558@email.mtu.edu>

There are actually 4 different rear shocks for Spridgets. The very earliest 
BEs up to c#4333 used number 7335. Then all 1/4 elliptics used 7401. Then 
semi-elliptics used 8681. And rubber snouts used 10779. These are the 
numbers stamped on the underside of one of the mounting ears.
         Function-wise, the only non-interchangeable shock is the 7335 as 
the arm is a 1/2" longer. (even that may not be terribly significant) The 2 
earliest have fill plugs on the lid angled to be accessible (hah!) from the 
boot. The 2 later have the plug on the shock body.
         The method employed with the adjustable valve is actually just 
providing a meter-able bypass route around a very, very heavily sprung valve.
         The color of the paint is very close to a late 70 Ford Tempo  <G>
         And, they ARE rebuildabe.
Peter C
=====
At 07:49 PM 1/24/2004, Michael Carpenter wrote:
>Can anybody tell me if these Adjustable Armstrong shocks listed on ebay
>correct for a later MK III Sprite?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=34200
>&item=2455837955
>
>Thanks in advance for any advice that you all can give.
>
>Lotus Jockey






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Adjustable Armstrong Shocks on Ebay
To: "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net

PPP,

My trusty copy of "Tuning BMC Sports Cars" by Mike
Garton (1970) says as follows:
"Adjustable shock aborbers were available for quarter
eliptic models after HAN5-4333. C-AHA 6453/6454.  At
this point the mountings changed.  These
shock-absorbers are no longer available but later
7906/7 type can be used by changing the links (4 3/4"
on early models) and using a 5/32" spacer between
shocker and chassis)" I read this to mean you need to
change the links and add a spacer if you use the
semi-elliptic shocks on a 1/4 elliptic car (after
c#4333)  That's what I did with my car in 1986 and
haven't had any problems since.  Whaddya think?

Rick
I think I hear the icebreaker coming up the driveway
now.

--- "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com> wrote:
> There are actually 4 different rear shocks for
> Spridgets. The very earliest 
> BEs up to c#4333 used number 7335. Then all 1/4
> elliptics used 7401. Then 
> semi-elliptics used 8681. And rubber snouts used
> 10779. These are the 
> numbers stamped on the underside of one of the
> mounting ears.
>          Function-wise, the only non-interchangeable
> shock is the 7335 as 
> the arm is a 1/2" longer. (even that may not be
> terribly significant) The 2 
> earliest have fill plugs on the lid angled to be
> accessible (hah!) from the 
> boot. The 2 later have the plug on the shock body.
>          The method employed with the adjustable
> valve is actually just 
> providing a meter-able bypass route around a very,
> very heavily sprung valve.
>          The color of the paint is very close to a
> late 70 Ford Tempo  <G>
>          And, they ARE rebuildabe.
> Peter C
> =====
> At 07:49 PM 1/24/2004, Michael Carpenter wrote:
> >Can anybody tell me if these Adjustable Armstrong
> shocks listed on ebay
> >correct for a later MK III Sprite?
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=34200
> >&item=2455837955
> >
> >Thanks in advance for any advice that you all can
> give.
> >
> >Lotus Jockey
> 
> 

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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: classic motorsports
To: John.Deikis@med.va.gov, spridgets@autox.team.net

--- John.Deikis@med.va.gov wrote:
> I'd take the (Hilton sister) that paid me the most.
> Anyway, I don't like rich heiresses for their
> brains.  

I'd take Paris after seeing the screen test.  She
can't talk much with her mouth full, anyway.


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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 15:00:40 2004
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:53:34 -0600
To: Rick Neville <healeyrick@yahoo.com>
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Adjustable Armstrong Shocks on Ebay
Cc: Spridgets@autox.team.net
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20040126132217.02bfac20@mailbag.com>

Rick,
         What he says is a bit vague. Let me see if I can say it 
differently. One of the problems is that the parts manuals indicate the 
adjustables are sold with links. Very important difference.
         Unfortunately I don't have the earliest link and shock here to 
look at.
         Pre HAN5-4333 had an arm a 1/2" longer than the later 1/4 
elliptic. They also had different links.
         All 1/4 elliptic used links that have the studs facing the same 
direction (in).
         All semi elliptics have link studs going opposite. (in at the 
shock, out at the spring)
         Yes, when placed on a flat surface, there is approximately 5/32" 
difference in arm height. I didn't, and don't, think it significant as 
there are rubber joints at each end of the links. Maybe I'm wrong thinking 
that.
         The links must match the car/spring arrangement. The post 4333 
shocks can otherwise interchange, if you don't mind the 5/32" or the filler 
plug location.
         Is that better?..... probably not.
         Peter
========
At 03:15 PM 1/26/2004, you wrote:
>PPP,
>
>My trusty copy of "Tuning BMC Sports Cars" by Mike
>Garton (1970) says as follows:
>"Adjustable shock aborbers were available for quarter
>eliptic models after HAN5-4333. C-AHA 6453/6454.  At
>this point the mountings changed.  These
>shock-absorbers are no longer available but later
>7906/7 type can be used by changing the links (4 3/4"
>on early models) and using a 5/32" spacer between
>shocker and chassis)" I read this to mean you need to
>change the links and add a spacer if you use the
>semi-elliptic shocks on a 1/4 elliptic car (after
>c#4333)  That's what I did with my car in 1986 and
>haven't had any problems since.  Whaddya think?
>
>Rick
>I think I hear the icebreaker coming up the driveway
>now.
>
>--- "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com> wrote:
> > There are actually 4 different rear shocks for
> > Spridgets. The very earliest
> > BEs up to c#4333 used number 7335. Then all 1/4
> > elliptics used 7401. Then
> > semi-elliptics used 8681. And rubber snouts used
> > 10779. These are the
> > numbers stamped on the underside of one of the
> > mounting ears.
> >          Function-wise, the only non-interchangeable
> > shock is the 7335 as
> > the arm is a 1/2" longer. (even that may not be
> > terribly significant) The 2
> > earliest have fill plugs on the lid angled to be
> > accessible (hah!) from the
> > boot. The 2 later have the plug on the shock body.
> >          The method employed with the adjustable
> > valve is actually just
> > providing a meter-able bypass route around a very,
> > very heavily sprung valve.
> >          The color of the paint is very close to a
> > late 70 Ford Tempo  <G>
> >          And, they ARE rebuildabe.
> > Peter C
> > =====
> > At 07:49 PM 1/24/2004, Michael Carpenter wrote:
> > >Can anybody tell me if these Adjustable Armstrong
> > shocks listed on ebay
> > >correct for a later MK III Sprite?
> > >
> >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=34200
> > >&item=2455837955
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance for any advice that you all can
> > give.
> > >
> > >Lotus Jockey






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From Bruce Lowry <egnorant at dctexas.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Please don't hate me!!!

http://www.richsalter.btinternet.co.uk/index.html
Pet lovers beware! But it may mean more mice for Brads snakes!!
Bruce (East Texas)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:25:27 -0500 (EST)
To: psychalgia@rocketmail.com (the flashfire)
Cc: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com (Wm. Thompson),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: RE: New Haynes Manual
  26 Jan 2004 11:10:38 -0800 (PST)

Yeah...

And Lorraine Bobbit taught us that normally attached parts can be
detached quite easily as well! 

BE CAREFULL OUT THERE! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 16:03:11 2004
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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: LBC fleet
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:04:09 -0800

"He who must not be named" has kindly put up a picture of the Byrns LBC
fleet.
I held off taking the picture until Winnie the Morris could roll out on her
own to join the driveway party.  She had her coming out party Saturday and so,
here's the whole gang.
I don't know if MJB's filtering will kill this, but here is the link to the
photo:
http://www.justbrits.com/cars/fleet.html

Glen






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Byrns LBC fleet photo
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:25:56 -0800

I tried to post a link to "He who must not be named" but it never showed up.
I guess MJB's filtering caught the address.  So if you want to see a picture
of the Byrns LBC fleet, remove the capital letters to generate the correct
link.

http://www.justRUSTYOLDbrits.com/cars/fleet.html

And thanks "Dare not say your name" for posting it.

Glen






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From "WJHS1960" <wjhs1960 at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <000a01c3e463$c05be910$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: Byrns LBC fleet photo
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:55:17 -0600

Ed says:

<<And thanks "Dare not say your name" for posting it.>>

Yeah, SURE Glen.  Damned near KILLED me 'cause I was intaling a brewski when
I read the above!!!

NOW my jeans LEGS are soaked from LMAO and almost CHOKING to
death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ed
"

j.

PS:  Glen, first one with correct link did in fact work.






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:01:41 -0500 (EST)
To: grbyrns@ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: LBC fleet
  2004 15:04:09 -0800

Cool, GB!

I'll take the BE!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 18:19:47 2004
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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: LBC fleet
References: <000801c3e460$b4f0a910$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Hello Glen,

       the wheels on the BE, what kind?  how old? what size? any
       details would be helpful! (not that i'm investing in wheels any
       time soon, just keepin' my eyes open)

       ??/

       TIA




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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From type79 at ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: LBC fleet
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  <131185339.20040126171931@pacifier.com>

Glen,
Wow! What a nice looking driveway.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 19:29:35 2004
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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: SS ads, no LBC

Is it me or are the new Sushi sled commercials on TV aimed at wussys?
The other night I saw an ad for a Sushi Sled (jap SUV) with a bunch of 
young men in it. Impressive exhaust note by the way. However, these men 
arrive at the river to go rafting but they all whimp out!
Last night another ad, same SS cause I recognized that exhaust note.
More young men out to climb a rock. Again, they whimp out!
So I guess this means if you are a whimp, go out and by this thing.
I don't know what brand of SS it was, they all look the same to me.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 19:40:03 2004
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From "Gary  & Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <000801c3e460$b4f0a910$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: LBC fleet
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:59:24 -0800

Nice family. If you ever get tired of Winnie, she can come live at my house.

Kate






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 20:01:31 2004
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From "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   "Spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: SS ads, no LBC
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:01:28 -0600

Well, there's the Chevy truck ad where the guy in the back seat is singin'
along with Shania Twain's "I feel like a Woman"... and it's kind of a "homo
club" moment....



-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:28 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: SS ads, no LBC


Is it me or are the new Sushi sled commercials on TV aimed at wussys?
The other night I saw an ad for a Sushi Sled (jap SUV) with a bunch of
young men in it. Impressive exhaust note by the way. However, these men
arrive at the river to go rafting but they all whimp out!
Last night another ad, same SS cause I recognized that exhaust note.
More young men out to climb a rock. Again, they whimp out!
So I guess this means if you are a whimp, go out and by this thing.
I don't know what brand of SS it was, they all look the same to me.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 20:18:55 2004
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From "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists at verizon.net>
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To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
CC: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC
References: <4015CCCA.4080302@exit109.com>
  from [151.198.110.166] at Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:18:36 -0600

Frank Clarici wrote:

> Is it me or are the new Sushi sled commercials on TV aimed at wussys?
> The other night I saw an ad for a Sushi Sled (jap SUV) with a bunch of 
> young men in it. Impressive exhaust note by the way. However, these 
> men arrive at the river to go rafting but they all whimp out!

I thought it was somewhat clever, they decide a class 3 and a class 2 
rapid added up to a class 5 rapid.  Maybe it is aim at men who don't 
measure their manliness or their unit size by the car they drive.  Good 
thing in my case cause what does a Toyota Corolla say, but "Hi, I have 
to squat to pee!" 

You do have to ask who are they targeting and what car exec thought it 
was a good idea.  Maybe the ad industry is just clean outta of ideas?

Bill "I can pee standing with the best of them" Gilroy






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Mon Jan 26 20:21:12 2004
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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

as opposed to the pontiac grand am commercial that pokes fun at a
lancer saying that no real man would consider that a performance
vehicle.  AFAIknew Pontiac Grand Ams came from the factory with two
child seats in the back.

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com> wrote:
> Is it me or are the new Sushi sled commercials on TV aimed at wussys?
> The other night I saw an ad for a Sushi Sled (jap SUV) with a bunch
> of 
> young men in it. Impressive exhaust note by the way. However, these
> men 
> arrive at the river to go rafting but they all whimp out!
> Last night another ad, same SS cause I recognized that exhaust note.
> More young men out to climb a rock. Again, they whimp out!
> So I guess this means if you are a whimp, go out and by this thing.
> I don't know what brand of SS it was, they all look the same to me.
> 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/


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From "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists at verizon.net>
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To: John.Deikis@med.va.gov
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Subject: Re: classic motorsports
References: <AE23D614A42ED311B36F0000F8313056037DB889@VHABACEXC1>
  from [151.198.110.166] at Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:21:39 -0600

John.Deikis@med.va.gov wrote:

>I'd take the one that paid me the most.
>Anyway, I don't like rich heiresses for their brains.  
>
>  
>
Those who marry for money, earn it.  Or so they say.

 I would most likely get JoAnn Hilton, the sister who went bad, and is 
never talked about.  All she got was a 10 room welfare hotel in Linden 
NJ.  It is truly amazing how they buried any trace of sister who did not 
fit in.

Gilroy






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From "Norm" <twobees at sprynet.com>
To: "vintage-race-digest" <owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net>,
   "spridgets-digest" <spridgets@autox.team.net>, <MGVR@yahoogroups.com>,
   "MG Digest" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: MGB Parts - Yours or to the Dump
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:03:53 -0500

Last chance!

The following parts are dump-bound unless some of you take them:
3-synchro trans
4-synchro trans
    (Both are in good condition & worked fine.  3-synchro was in my '66 when I
bought it.  4-synchro replaced it about a year later.  And, it was replaced 2
years ago when I went to a c.r. 4-synchro with o.d.)

Front cross member from 1969 MGB
Early MGB flywheel
2 sets of front springs: free heights = 9-1/8" & 10-3/8"

Dump runs begin this coming Saturday morning Jan 31.

Norm Sippel
'66 MGB






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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:07:02 EST
Subject: Re: MGB Parts - Yours or to the Dump
To: twobees@sprynet.com, owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net,
   spridgets@autox.team.net, MGVR@yahoogroups.com, mgs@autox.team.net

Location ??






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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:22:15 EST
Subject: front shock mounts
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Do I take it that  you can get in there and put a nut on a slightly longer 
bolt if you strip out the threads? Sooner or later I will have to undo these 
bolts and the thought of them breaking off or stripping gives me fits. Bob C






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Subject: List Mail or Virus Attack via cloned address???
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 5:20:22 +0000

Did anyone else get a "server report" from the Spridgets-Mod list with an attachment named "doc.zip"??? I haven't opened it and probably won't...

Kent
1960 Bugeye






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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:44:34 -0800
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From gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
Subject: Re: List Mail or Virus Attack via cloned address???
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Kent,

I received and email from  chris.muessel@bakernet.com subject title 
"HELLO" with the same attachment.

Gerard

At 5:20 AM +0000 1/27/04, <bushwacker4@zoomtown.com> wrote:
>Did anyone else get a "server report" from the Spridgets-Mod list 
>with an attachment named "doc.zip"??? I haven't opened it and 
>probably won't...
>
>Kent
>1960 Bugeye






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:43:25 EST
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC
To: spritenut@exit109.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/26/04 6:36:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
spritenut@exit109.com writes:


> Is it me or are the new Sushi sled commercials on TV aimed at wussys?
> 

Those things aren't made for the guy who really  wants  to get off-road and 
who wants real adventure--they are made for the guy who wants to IMAGINE and 
dream themselves into those scenarios.  Like an arm-chair adventurer.  So yeah, 
Frank, that would be close.  Although those commercials ARE funny to those who 
have climbed the rocks and shot the Class Vs.  

--David C.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 03:47:34 2004
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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:46:59 EST
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC
To: psychalgia@rocketmail.com, spritenut@exit109.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/26/04 7:26:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
psychalgia@rocketmail.com writes:


> pokes fun at a
> lancer 

Hey!  I resemble that remark!  8^)

--David C.






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:52:48 -0500 (EST)
To: w.lists@verizon.net (William M. Gilroy)
Cc: John.Deikis@med.va.gov, willy@thompsoncarpentry.com,
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: classic motorsports
  26 Jan 2004 22:21:36 -0500

This interests me, William.

What is meant by "she went bad"? What
is meant by "bad" in this particular case?

The Hilton sisters parents are alive and
well. Thus, the will has not been settled
as yet and what anyone will end
up with is anybody's guess but there is
certainly more than sufficient to go around
to all concerned, I'm sure.

Perhaps JoAnn chooses to lead a 
different, more quiet life and even one
where she may "make a difference"? I
mean I don't know but I am curious.

It must be born in mind that the Hilton
sisters are young and very much
privileged and have literally all the time
in the world to grow up, unlike most of
us who must get serious early in life
(more or less) and get started down that
road wherein we can earn a decent buck
and "provide". Their time table for such
activities is different from ours and may
be different to the extent of being basically non-existent...time will
tell
whether they will get serious about
anything and decide to become productive
and contribute anything with the exception
of the obvious which is temporary in
nature in any event. 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:01:45 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC
  Jan 2004 21:28:26 -0500

ROTFLMAO...

Especially at WST's "homo moment"
response. Hilarious!! Keep 'em
coming!! :):):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson@thicko.com>,
   "Frank Clarici"
  <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:23:04 -0500

who writes these things any way?
i'm a big fan of comercials and some are darn funny or very well put to the
point of what they are trying to sell.    but there are a few i see and i
cringe evry time feeling somehow insulted.
what ever happened to alka seltzer's "that's a spicey meat-a balll-a" ?

chuck.
i'd even welcome a series like the old VW bug "think small"  ads that once
polluted evry media you saw!  (i have a few of those buttons from the new
york auto show !)  :)
-----Original Message-----
From Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>; Spridgets
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: SS ads, no LBC


>Well, there's the Chevy truck ad where the guy in the back seat is singin'
>along with Shania Twain's "I feel like a Woman"... and it's kind of a "homo
>club" moment....






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 05:26:23 2004
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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "the flashfire" <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>,
   "Frank Clarici"
  <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:25:22 -0500

gee when i worked for pontiac, it was "we build excitement"....right?
we rewrote it ! decided pontiac built excrement!  

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC


>as opposed to the pontiac grand am commercial that pokes fun at a
>lancer saying that no real man would consider that a performance
>vehicle.  AFAIknew Pontiac Grand Ams came from the factory with two
>child seats in the back.






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: <BCAH@aol.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: front shock mounts
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:28:47 -0500

breaking off in the threaded hole or stripping has not been half the problem
compared to siezing in the shock and the head rounds off or shears off!
that has thwarted removal more times than i'd like to say!

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From BCAH at aol.com <BCAH@aol.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:22 PM
Subject: front shock mounts


>Do I take it that  you can get in there and put a nut on a slightly longer
>bolt if you strip out the threads? Sooner or later I will have to undo
these
>bolts and the thought of them breaking off or stripping gives me fits. Bob
C






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From <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: no lbc but looking for some
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:36:55 -0600
  with any abuse report

April 5-10 I will be going to Florida to go thru some training to steer a
"dragonboat" for some local "Rotary international" races in Racine in July.
(http://www.midwestdragonboatfestival.com)




 I will be at
Camp Location: The Pines Resort, Indian Harbor Beach, Florida.  The resort
is about 15 miles south of Cocoa Beach and about 50 miles southeast of
Orlando on the Atlantic inland coastal waterway.    A map can be obtained
from the Pines Resort website link.

I will be flying down, but will have a rental car, I could go a day or 2
Early, or stay a day or 2 late, doesn't matter.

Are there any British car shows, or any car races close to there in that
time frame, that anyone knows about?

Are there any Listers in this area that would like to get together for a
beer, or so?

willy@thompsoncarpentry.com

www.thompsoncarpentry.com

willy@thompsoncarpentry.com

www.thompsoncarpentry.com






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 05:58:45 2004
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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>, "Spridgets"
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: no lbc but looking for some
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:57:46 -0500

i'll miss ya by about 2 weeks !  i'll be racing at sebring the week of the
17th of march.

chuck.
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From willy at thompsoncarpentry.com <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 7:35 AM
Subject: no lbc but looking for some


>April 5-10 I will be going to Florida to go thru some training to steer a
>"dragonboat" for some local "Rotary international" races in Racine in July.
>(http://www.midwestdragonboatfestival.com)
>
>
>
>
> I will be at
>Camp Location: The Pines Resort, Indian Harbor Beach, Florida.  The resort
>is about 15 miles south of Cocoa Beach and about 50 miles southeast of
>Orlando on the Atlantic inland coastal waterway.    A map can be obtained
>from the Pines Resort website link.
>
>I will be flying down, but will have a rental car, I could go a day or 2
>Early, or stay a day or 2 late, doesn't matter.
>
>Are there any British car shows, or any car races close to there in that
>time frame, that anyone knows about?
>
>Are there any Listers in this area that would like to get together for a
>beer, or so?






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 06:26:39 2004
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:25:56 -0600
From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "Norm" <twobees@sprynet.com>,
   "vintage-race-digest"<owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net>,
   "spridgets-digest"<spridgets@autox.team.net>, <MGVR@yahoogroups.com>,
   "MG Digest"<mgs@autox.team.net>, "Peter Ryner" <pryner@verizon.net>
Subject: RE: MGB Parts - Yours or to the Dump

 Peter
 Norm is in Slippery Rock, Pa 16057

 Try the phone book or a google search.

 Larry Rex



Norm,
You didn't mention where you are at.  I'd be glad to pick the parts up if
you are in Florida.
Pete

-----Original Message-----
From owner-mgs at autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Norm
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:04 PM
To: vintage-race-digest; spridgets-digest; MGVR@yahoogroups.com; MG
Digest
Subject: MGB Parts - Yours or to the Dump


Last chance!

The following parts are dump-bound unless some of you take them:
3-synchro trans
4-synchro trans
    (Both are in good condition & worked fine.  3-synchro was in my '66 when
I
bought it.  4-synchro replaced it about a year later.  And, it was replaced
2
years ago when I went to a c.r. 4-synchro with o.d.)

Front cross member from 1969 MGB
Early MGB flywheel
2 sets of front springs: free heights = 9-1/8" & 10-3/8"

Dump runs begin this coming Saturday morning Jan 31.

Norm Sippel
'66 MGB





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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>, <BCAH@aol.com>
Subject: Re: front shock mounts

Do I take it that  you can get in there and put a nut on a slightly longer 
bolt if you strip out the threads? Sooner or later I will have to undo these 
bolts and the thought of them breaking off or stripping gives me fits. Bob C


 Bob
 To repair it right in my book. A man has to remove the wheel,
 spindle, spring to get to the spring resting plate.
 Which is only spot welded on. Cut or grind those welds.
 Then you will see the shock mounting block which is very
 small. This is the item that needs repairing or replacing.
 Do the same with it, cut or grind to remove. Then replace
 with a mounting block thats in good shape.
 Reinstall the spring and etc.

 Takes time but worth doing right.

 Larry Rex



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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: <bushwacker4@zoomtown.com>, gerard <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>
CC: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: List Mail or Virus Attack via cloned address???

 doc.zip
 that seems to be a document, that was zipped up with the win zip
 program. No you can not open unless you have the win zip
 program.



Kent,

I received and email from  chris.muessel@bakernet.com subject title 
"HELLO" with the same attachment.

Gerard

At 5:20 AM +0000 1/27/04, <bushwacker4@zoomtown.com> wrote:
>Did anyone else get a "server report" from the Spridgets-Mod list 
>with an attachment named "doc.zip"??? I haven't opened it and 
>probably won't...
>
>Kent
>1960 Bugeye





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From "George Procyshyn" <george at toycar.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Florida Bound
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:15:37 -0500

Penny and I are going to travel from Cleveland Ohio to Miami Fl. then to
Orlando Fl. on the way back home. I believe most of it is route 75  We're
leaving on Feb. 4th and will return on Feb. 22   Work related, but the last
week is open (other than Disney World). Can anyone recommend any Spridget
related destinations we shouldn't miss along the way?
Thanks group
George Procyshyn
'58 AN5






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From "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists at verizon.net>
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  Gecko/20031007
To: bushwacker4@zoomtown.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: List Mail or Virus Attack via cloned address???
References: <20040127052022.LYNY5308.smtp1.fuse.net@smtp.fuse.net>
  from [151.198.110.166] at Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:26:08 -0600

bushwacker4@zoomtown.com wrote:

>Did anyone else get a "server report" from the Spridgets-Mod list with an attachment named "doc.zip"??? I haven't opened it and probably won't...
>  
>
I got several with my list email address as the "From".  Somewhere there 
is a virus/trojan horse running wild.  Do trojan horse's run?  In any 
case I am running linux so I am pretty sure that I am not the source.  
The address must have been culled out of someones address book on the list.

But don't open the attachment and they have had the following names so far

   1. doc.src
   2. doc.zip
   3. yav.zip

My solution to all these problems with viruses is to buy all of the 
dopes writing them girlfriends.  If they had girls in their lives, they 
would be having sex, not writing viruses.  So how about a public service 
ad campaign:

"Get a hooker for a nerd, and stamp out viruses"

Seems like a catchy slogan.   JM2C.

Bill Gilroy






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To: "larryrex" <larryrex@awesomenet.net>, <bushwacker4@zoomtown.com>,
   gerard <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>
Subject: Re: List Mail or Virus Attack via cloned address???
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:21:51 -0500
User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401270831.AA44630404@awesomenet.net>

News on the virus: http://news.com.com/2100-7349_3-5147605.html?tag=cd_lede






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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "larryrex" <larryrex@awesomenet.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401270824.AA1371603546@awesomenet.net>
Subject: Re: front shock mounts
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:54:13 -0800

What about slipping a flat magnet under the bottom of the oversize hole and
filling the hole with weld.
grind the fresh bumpy surface flat, locate the shock, mark the center on the
fresh weld surface, redrill and re-tap?  Good as new and you can leave the
spring pan in place.

Glen
(who spends waaayy too much time with his favorite toy mig welder.)

> Do I take it that  you can get in there and put a nut on a slightly longer
> bolt if you strip out the threads? Sooner or later I will have to undo
these
> bolts and the thought of them breaking off or stripping gives me fits. Bob
C
>
>
>  Bob
>  To repair it right in my book. A man has to remove the wheel,
>  spindle, spring to get to the spring resting plate.
>  Which is only spot welded on. Cut or grind those welds.
>  Then you will see the shock mounting block which is very
>  small. This is the item that needs repairing or replacing.
>  Do the same with it, cut or grind to remove. Then replace
>  with a mounting block thats in good shape.
>  Reinstall the spring and etc.
>
>  Takes time but worth doing right.
>
>  Larry Rex






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Subject: virus info
From shelden3 at pldi.net
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1

There is a class 4 virus running around the world right now

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.novarg.a@mm.html

Anyone that has you in their address book will send you a mail...some look
like mails that didn't go through others have .zip attachments.  As usual
follow good email practice in not opening attachments..even from friends. 
If you run norton or other virus software get the latest update as most
released theirs on Monday.

Hope this helps.

LBC content...
I started a welding class, plan on doing the floor pans on the 59 sprite
on spring break...my project in class will be to build tub mounts for my
engine stands.

Charlie
1959 trailer maiden....NY-OK






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Virus Attack via cloned address???
To: "Trevor J." <trevorwj@insightbb.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

that virus is a bastard, i woke up this morning and my mailbox was
full.  i dont get too concerned about viruses too often, but this one
has the potential to make a real mess.

--- "Trevor J." <trevorwj@insightbb.com> wrote:
> News on the virus:
> http://news.com.com/2100-7349_3-5147605.html?tag=cd_lede


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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: classic motorsports now the hilton sisters
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

i get the feeling that the "simple life" was really just a way for
paris to jump-start her "career" in something a little more serious
than getting naked.  Not that I hold getting naked against her, its
just too bad she wont hold getting naked against me :eek:

IMDB shows that Paris has already been in at least 8 major rolls in her
acting career, thats more than a lot of people who try seriously.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0385296/

but then im completely ignoring the subject of her sister :-p

--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net> wrote:
> This interests me, William.
> 
> What is meant by "she went bad"? What
> is meant by "bad" in this particular case?
> 
> The Hilton sisters parents are alive and
> well. Thus, the will has not been settled
> as yet and what anyone will end
> up with is anybody's guess but there is
> certainly more than sufficient to go around
> to all concerned, I'm sure.
> 
> Perhaps JoAnn chooses to lead a 
> different, more quiet life and even one
> where she may "make a difference"? I
> mean I don't know but I am curious.
> 
> It must be born in mind that the Hilton
> sisters are young and very much
> privileged and have literally all the time
> in the world to grow up, unlike most of
> us who must get serious early in life
> (more or less) and get started down that
> road wherein we can earn a decent buck
> and "provide". Their time table for such
> activities is different from ours and may
> be different to the extent of being basically non-existent...time
> will
> tell
> whether they will get serious about
> anything and decide to become productive
> and contribute anything with the exception
> of the obvious which is temporary in
> nature in any event. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cap'n. Bob 
>      '60 :{)
> 

> 


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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC
To: DLancer7676@cs.com
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

if offered the choice between a lancer and a grand am it would not be
too hard to make that decision.  it would be the lancer hands down, and
i _do not_ like mitsubishi products.  Pontiac Grand Am / Prix is like
america's answer to the civic/accord.  im sick of seeing so many of
them, and they certainly aren't more stylish than a diluted rally car!

--- DLancer7676@cs.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/26/04 7:26:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> psychalgia@rocketmail.com writes:
> 
> 
> > pokes fun at a
> > lancer 
> 
> Hey!  I resemble that remark!  8^)
> 
> --David C.
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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 09:53:29 2004
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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Trevor J." <trevorwj@insightbb.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[2]: List Mail or Virus Attack via cloned address???
References: <200401270831.AA44630404@awesomenet.net>
  <200401271021.52122.trevorwj@insightbb.com>

Hello Trevor,

       based on this report spritenut@exit109.com is most definitely
       infected!
       




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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:53:21 -0800 (PST)
From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: List Mail or Virus Attack via cloned address???
To: "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists@verizon.net>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

there are also several .scr copies running around which i believe are
scripts running through outlook.

the only people that have a major chance of passing this on are those
running an outdated version of outlook to check their mail.  those of
you on yahoo, hotmail, etc are probably not affected, but it would not
be wise to open these files.  Those of you on Eudora and I believe
Outlook express are probably not affected, but again, dont open the
file.  Generally these files are passed through an old address book
exploit available only in Outlook.  Microsoft has since patched their
issues in outlook, but many people forget to update, or they have
computer problems and reinstall but dont update.  if this sounds like
you take a look and consider doing it because you likely could be the
cause, or become the cause of the problem.

sorry for the book.

--- "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists@verizon.net> wrote:
> bushwacker4@zoomtown.com wrote:
> 
> >Did anyone else get a "server report" from the Spridgets-Mod list
> with an attachment named "doc.zip"??? I haven't opened it and
> probably won't...
> >  
> >
> I got several with my list email address as the "From".  Somewhere
> there 
> is a virus/trojan horse running wild.  Do trojan horse's run?  In any
> 
> case I am running linux so I am pretty sure that I am not the source.
>  
> The address must have been culled out of someones address book on the
> list.
> 
> But don't open the attachment and they have had the following names
> so far
> 
>    1. doc.src
>    2. doc.zip
>    3. yav.zip
> 
> My solution to all these problems with viruses is to buy all of the 
> dopes writing them girlfriends.  If they had girls in their lives,
> they 
> would be having sex, not writing viruses.  So how about a public
> service 
> ad campaign:
> 
> "Get a hooker for a nerd, and stamp out viruses"
> 
> Seems like a catchy slogan.   JM2C.
> 
> Bill Gilroy
> 


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From "PAsgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
To: "the flashfire" <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>,
   "Robert E. Shlafer"
  <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040127164758.8001.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: classic motorsports now the hilton sisters
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:55:29 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

I really like your spelling of roles!!!  LOL!

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From "the flashfire" <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
> 
> IMDB shows that Paris has already been in at least 8 major rolls in her
> acting career, thats more than a lot of people who try seriously.






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: classic motorsports now the hilton sisters
To: PAsgeirsson <PAsgeirsson@att.net>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

d'oh!  it's early for me.
--- PAsgeirsson <PAsgeirsson@att.net> wrote:
> I really like your spelling of roles!!!  LOL!
> 
> Pa
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "the flashfire" <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>
> > 
> > IMDB shows that Paris has already been in at least 8 major rolls in
> her
> > acting career, thats more than a lot of people who try seriously.
> 


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I'm not sure what's worse:
a) The virus itself,
b) The emails from everyone saying they didn't send it.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
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From John.Deikis at med.va.gov
To: w.lists@verizon.net, John.Deikis@med.va.gov
Cc: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: classic motorsports
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:23:14 -0600

Wait'll Frank finds out she's right in the neighborhood.

-----Original Message-----
From William M. Gilroy [mailto:w.lists at verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:22 PM
To: John.Deikis@med.va.gov
Cc: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: classic motorsports


John.Deikis@med.va.gov wrote:

>I'd take the one that paid me the most.
>Anyway, I don't like rich heiresses for their brains.  
>
>  
>
Those who marry for money, earn it.  Or so they say.

 I would most likely get JoAnn Hilton, the sister who went bad, and is 
never talked about.  All she got was a 10 room welfare hotel in Linden 
NJ.  It is truly amazing how they buried any trace of sister who did not 
fit in.

Gilroy






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 10:54:11 2004
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From twobees at sprynet.com
To: Bob Howard <mgbob@juno.com>, larryrex@awesomenet.net
Subject: Re: MGB Parts - Yours or to the Dump
Cc: twobees@sprynet.com, owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net,
   spridgets@autox.team.net, MGVR@yahoogroups.com, mgs@autox.team.net,
   pryner@verizon.net

Hey, guys!

Sorry I missed noting location.  As you see, it was after 11 PM when I wrote this last night and the old brain doesn't always work that well at that late hour.

Bob is right.  I'll be using the snow-covered roads in Fairfield to practice my over-steer recovery techniques.  And, to practice driving the MGB on the ragged edge so I can maybe finish better than 9th (as in 2003) in the Collier Cup race at Watkins Glen in September.  Really need to push it harder in the corners.

Which brings up the question - Are you coming to the 50th Anniversary Collier Cup Race on Sept. 11 & 12?  There will be so many MG's racing that MGVR has already broken it into 2 races.  Early MG's on Saturday, late MG's on Sunday.  Seventy five of us have already said we'll be racing there.  Looks like it could reach 120.

Stop by & say hello.  My MGB is the Mineral Blue one (with OE White factory h.t.) with lots of chips & dings from driving it on the street every day.

Norm

-----Original Message-----
From Bob Howard <mgbob at juno.com>
Sent: Jan 27, 2004 11:50 AM
To: larryrex@awesomenet.net
Cc: twobees@sprynet.com, owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net, 
	spridgets@autox.team.net, MGVR@yahoogroups.com, mgs@autox.team.net, 
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Subject: Re: MGB Parts - Yours or to the Dump

  When last seen, Norm was slipping around in the snow of Fairfield CT.
Bob


On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:25:56 -0600 "larryrex" <larryrex@awesomenet.net>
writes:
>  Peter
>  Norm is in Slippery Rock, Pa 16057
> 
>  Try the phone book or a google search.
> 
>  Larry Rex
> 
> 
> 
> Norm,
> You didn't mention where you are at.  I'd be glad to pick the parts 
> up if
> you are in Florida.
> Pete
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Norm
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:04 PM
> To: vintage-race-digest; spridgets-digest; MGVR@yahoogroups.com; MG
> Digest
> Subject: MGB Parts - Yours or to the Dump
> 
> 
> Last chance!
> 
> The following parts are dump-bound unless some of you take them:
> 3-synchro trans
> 4-synchro trans
>     (Both are in good condition & worked fine.  3-synchro was in my 
> '66 when
> I
> bought it.  4-synchro replaced it about a year later.  And, it was 
> replaced
> 2
> years ago when I went to a c.r. 4-synchro with o.d.)
> 
> Front cross member from 1969 MGB
> Early MGB flywheel
> 2 sets of front springs: free heights = 9-1/8" & 10-3/8"
> 
> Dump runs begin this coming Saturday morning Jan 31.
> 
> Norm Sippel
> '66 MGB






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From "Deikis, John" <John.Deikis at med.va.gov>
To: "'spridgets@autox.team.net'" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Please don't hate me
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:58:41 -0600

A smaller gauge weapon and you could still get a little wheel chock use-- or
even a Chinese stew-- out of these little guys.

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:09:17 -0600
From Bruce Lowry <egnorant at dctexas.net>
Subject: Please don't hate me!!!

http://www.richsalter.btinternet.co.uk/index.html
Pet lovers beware! But it may mean more mice for Brads snakes!!
Bruce (East Texas)






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From Lester Ewing <lewing at sport.rr.com>
Subject: another newbie question..
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:28:46 -0600

Ok, now that I have some catalogs (catoluges) could someone let me know 
what BN1,
BN 2 etc. stands for?

TIA

Lester






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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:49:20 -0600
  with any abuse report

I think ROLL was only a Freudian slip, Freud says there are no accidents lol

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:10 AM
To: PAsgeirsson
Cc: spridgets
Subject: Re: classic motorsports now the hilton sisters


d'oh!  it's early for me.
--- PAsgeirsson <PAsgeirsson@att.net> wrote:
> I really like your spelling of roles!!!  LOL!
> 
> Pa
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "the flashfire" <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>
> > 
> > IMDB shows that Paris has already been in at least 8 major rolls in
> her
> > acting career, thats more than a lot of people who try seriously.
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Those are the chassis number prefixes for big Healeys. BN1 is a 100/4,
I'm not sure about the rest.
Frogeye Sprites started with AN5, Mk 2 Sprites with HAN6, Mk 1 Midgets
with GAN1, etc.

 
-=Chris
GAN6 Midget

Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Lester Ewing
Sent: 1/27/2004 1:27:46 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: another newbie question.. 

Ok, now that I have some catalogs (catoluges) could someone let me know 
what BN1, 
BN 2 etc. stands for? 

TIA 

Lester 






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: BMC car radio

Hello spridgets,

  digging thru my PO box of parts, i found an old BMC AM radio! it has
  three wires coming out, id est, one zip cord, and one black wire.
  any ideas on how they hook up?   power? speaker? ground? .. a hot
  wire for the radio, and chassis used as ground? zip cord to the
  speakers? hot and ground to radio, speaker wire and chassis ground
  at speaker? .. i'm not REALLY planning on installing it, just want
  to know if its still good before i offer it to someone.

  TIA

-- 
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They are model designations.

BN1 = 1st series Austin-Healey 100
BN2 = 2nd series Austin Healey 100 - 4 sp / different differential

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
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Lester Ewing wrote:

> Ok, now that I have some catalogs (catoluges) could someone let me know 
> what BN1,
> BN 2 etc. stands for?






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Subject: RE: classic motorsports
  11:23:14 -0600

Nah!!

Diane would simply drive over Joanne.... 
Frank says she drives a "mean" Sprite, so
as gentle as she most likely is with Frank,
the kids and cats, is as tough as she
most likely can be when the occassion
calls for it to be the "other way 'round"..:):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Thanks and a tip o' the hat
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:20:42 -0500

To Peter C and Paul A for their suggestion on the use of a Ford Fiesta
alternator for my Mini.  With a bit of judicious filing on the top fan-side
"ear" to line up the pulleys, it slipped right in.

Thanks also to teglerizer.com and those who suggested his mods.


Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini






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Cc: psychalgia@rocketmail.com (the flashfire),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: classic motorsports now the hilton sisters
  Jan 2004 08:55:29 -0800

"I really like your spelling of roles"

Yeah, Flash. What's with that??? A 
Freudian slip, no doubt?? <VBG>

No, I don't watch their brainless (thus
far) show though I do like looking at
beautiful girls.

I like the Hilton sisters. Not their fault
they were born rich. In this respect, we
should all be this fortunate and/or
lucky. Nevertheless, I don't think it would
be beyond Paris or sis to bankroll or
partially bankroll a picture and/or buy
their way in.

OTOH, the immediately foregoing having
been said, unless you've got talent, money will not sustain you despite
it's
allowing you to possibly get your foot
in the door.

Thus, I remain openminded. Time will tell.
They are young, attractive, rich and having fun. As it should be.

The jury is still out in their
case for sure! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:55:07 -0500 (EST)
To: lewing@sport.rr.com (Lester Ewing)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets List)
Subject: Re: another newbie question..
  2004 12:28:46 -0600

Well....I don't know Big Healeys, but...

(and with no offense intended, I would guess.....
..BN1 would be the early model, and BN 2 would be a later model. Maybe
the former
had the 3 speed box and the later a 4
speed, etc.

Sorta like Sprite and Midgets in terms
of Mk's 1,2,3 & 4.

You see, Lester, you gotta get books on
the model car you are interested in to become familiar with what the
catalogs are trying to tell you.....:):):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:05:26 -0500 (EST)
To: John.Deikis@med.va.gov (Deikis, John)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Please don't hate me
  27 Jan 2004 11:58:41 -0600

"or even a Chinese stew"

^ .  . ^
  =0=  ....Whoa, whoa!! CUAJD report coming up...:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "spridget" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
To: "William M. Gilroy" <w.lists@verizon.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: classic motorsports
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:36:07 -0500

Ahh, the rich NJ heritage.

Dan
> 
>  I would most likely get JoAnn Hilton, the sister who went bad, and is 
> never talked about.  All she got was a 10 room welfare hotel in Linden 
> NJ.  It is truly amazing how they buried any trace of sister who did not 
> fit in.
> 
> Gilroy






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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:42:54 -0500 (EST)
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com (Wm. Thompson)
Cc: psychalgia@rocketmail.com (the flashfire),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: RE: classic motorsports now the hilton sisters/no lbc
  Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:49:20 -0600

"There are no Freudian slips"

You read my mind, Willy!!!!

Flash is indeed in "big trouble"....'cause
WE  both "know"!! Then again, considering that Paris is quite attractive
in a physical sense, such a slip is indeed
understandable. <VBG> :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Larry Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Door Hinge Bolt Size
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:59:23 -0800

Anyone on line that knows the size of the button head door hinge bolts on a
Bugeye????

TIA
Larry Miller






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I am looking for some info on the classic Mini. Would anyone familiar 
with them, please contact me off list?

Thanks,
-- 
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From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
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I don't know about a bugeye, but the later ones are 1/4-28, prob 1/2" or
5/8" long. That's at least a good place to start. 
 
HTH
 
-=Chris


<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Larry Miller
Sent: 1/27/2004 6:02:23 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Door Hinge Bolt Size 

Anyone on line that knows the size of the button head door hinge bolts
on a 
Bugeye???? 

TIA 
Larry Miller 



. 






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Wm. Thompson" <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[2]: classic motorsports now the hilton sisters/no lbc
References: <20040127171027.15224.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com>
  <DIECKGFCDFMIDPKNINMJMECIFFAA.willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>

Hello Wm.,

       speaking of freudian slip.... here's the joke.

       a guy goes into a bar and sits down at a table with another guy
       and orders a beer.... they get to talking and the first guy
       says

       "hey--- you know what a freudian slip is?
       guy two says .. "nooOoo, whats that?
       guy one says "well, that's where you mean to say one thing, but
       what you're really thinkin' comes out instead.... like....
       the other day i needed to take a train trip, and when i went to
       the booth to get the tickets the lady inside was REALLLY
       stacked.. what a set! and i said .. 'could i have two titties..
       errr... uhh... tickets.'   THAT was a FRUEDIAN slip."

       guy one says.. gee ... "that's why i'm here in the bar right
       now! i was sitting across the table from my wife and what a
       meant to say was 'honey, please pass me the butter,' but what
       came out was 'you f***ing bitch, you've ruined my life!'"




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 17:30:02 2004
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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:28:44 EST
Subject: Re: SS ads, no LBC*
To: psychalgia@rocketmail.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/27/04 9:10:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
psychalgia@rocketmail.com writes:


> lancer and a grand am it would not be
> too hard to make that decision.

Walll. . .THIS Lancer IS a Grand Am, Ya see!  8^)

--8^)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 17:32:38 2004
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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net>
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: front shock mounts
References: <005101c3e4d1$1d9afc20$7df945cf@fred>

Charles Christ wrote:
> breaking off in the threaded hole or stripping has not been half the problem
> compared to siezing in the shock 

Neversieze, always on the shock bolts and shafts.
Also a good idea is to run a 3/8 drill thru the shock bolt holes each 
time they are off the car. Just to keep them clean.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 17:36:40 2004
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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:35:42 EST
Subject: Re: Florida Bound
To: george@toycar.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/27/04 7:25:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
george@toycar.net writes:


> Penny and I are going to travel from Cleveland Ohio to Miami Fl. then to
> Orlando Fl. on the way back home. I believe most of it is route 75  We're
> leaving on Feb. 4th and will return on Feb. 22   Work related, but the last
> week is open (other than Disney World). Can anyone recommend any Spridget
> related destinations we shouldn't miss along the way?
> 

Hey George--We live just 7 miles off I-75 in Tennessee.  Stop in for a cup of 
coffee if you have time and happen to be coming through when we aren't at 
work.  I could take you by Buddy's in Knoxville--a dream junkpile for British car 
types,and Buddy is the most knowledgeable British car guy I have ever met.   
We are off Exit 122 just north of KNoxville.

--David C.






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, <millerls@ado13.com>,
   <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Door Hinge Bolt Size
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:44:08 -0500

hinges are the same.  later cars use real hex head bolts early cars use big
phillips head "screws" yet the threaded hole in the hinge remains a
constant.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Chris King <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: millerls@ado13.com <millerls@ado13.com>; spridgets@autox.team.net
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Door Hinge Bolt Size


>I don't know about a bugeye, but the later ones are 1/4-28, prob 1/2" or
>5/8" long. That's at least a good place to start.
>
>HTH
>
>-=Chris






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Subject: Re: Door Hinge Bolt Size
References: <014f01c3e529$34f001b0$6818a8c0@PSIMONT4>

Larry Miller wrote:

> Anyone on line that knows the size of the button head door hinge bolts on a
> Bugeye????
1/4 x 28 pan head.



-- 
Frank Clarici
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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 18:41:22 2004
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To: Bill L <pythias@pacifier.com>
CC: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: BMC car radio
References: <1074517802.20040127112432@pacifier.com>

BMC radio hook up.
One (single) wire to hot, ground the chassis.
Be SURE the ground switch is set to whatever ground you are using, most 
BMC radios have a switch for the ground. Don't hook it up backwards.
The lamp cord is the speaker wire. 1 speaker.

-- 
Frank Clarici
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:49:28 -0500 (EST)
To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com
Cc: midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Worm/Virus

Watch it!

That worm/virus entitled "server report" is going around.

Mine states...it contains
Unicode characters and comes as a
"binary attachment". Mine is from
rmonty@mmcom.com




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: Virus Attack via cloned address???
From Nory <nory at buffnet.net>
To: the flashfire <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>,
   "Trevor J."
  <trevorwj@insightbb.com>
CC: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

Am I correct in assuming that this virus is attacking windows software, and
I'm safe using a Mac?

-- 
-Nory
NORYS LAWS:
1.  Just because you have found the problem, doesn't mean you've found the
ONLY problem.
2.  Just because it's new doesn't mean it works right.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 19:02:31 2004
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From chuck <cciaffone at earthlink.net>
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To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Florida Bound

Between Miami and Orlando, not far off I-95 in Fort Pierce,
(north of West Palm) is Wire Wheel Classics:

http://www.wirewheel.com/

which always has a very interesting line up of classic sportscars in
various states of restoration. Great for an hour or two of intense
browsing.

chuck

George Procyshyn wrote:

Penny and I are going to travel from Cleveland Ohio to Miami Fl. then to
Orlando Fl. on the way back home. I believe most of it is route 75  We're
leaving on Feb. 4th and will return on Feb. 22   Work related, but the last
week is open (other than Disney World). Can anyone recommend any Spridget
related destinations we shouldn't miss along the way?
Thanks group
George Procyshyn
'58 AN5






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To: spridget <spridget63@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: classic motorsports
References: <AE23D614A42ED311B36F0000F8313056037DB889@VHABACEXC1> 
  <4015D940.9060406@verizon.net> <001301c3e525$f48d56c0$6401a8c0@dan>
  from [151.198.110.166] at Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:20:43 -0600

spridget wrote:

>Ahh, the rich NJ heritage.
>
>  
>
What do you expect from the state that brought you "Champale"?






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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:52:31 -0500 (EST)
To: nory@buffnet.net (Nory)
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Subject: Re: Virus Attack via cloned address???
  21:07:32 -0500

I dunno, Nory...

But I sent you a link provided by another
lister which may help you out.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>, <cfchrist@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Door Hinge Bolt Size
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:03:28 -0800
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All my 1500s has big philips head screws. (Come to think of it, probably
actually pozidriv). But I used hex bolts when I reassembled my '77.
 
-=Chris


<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Charles Christ
Sent: 1/27/2004 7:48:08 PM
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu;millerls@ado13.com;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Door Hinge Bolt Size 

hinges are the same. later cars use real hex head bolts early cars use
big 
phillips head "screws" yet the threaded hole in the hinge remains a 
constant. 

chuck. 
-----Original Message----- 
From Chris King 
To: millerls@ado13.com ; spridgets@autox.team.net 

Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 6:57 PM 
Subject: Re: Door Hinge Bolt Size 


>I don't know about a bugeye, but the later ones are 1/4-28, prob 1/2"
or 
>5/8" long. That's at least a good place to start. 
> 
>HTH 
> 
>-=Chris 






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[2]: BMC car radio
References: <1074517802.20040127112432@pacifier.com>
  <401712F4.4080803@exit109.com>

Hello Frank,

       no switch on the radio.. nothing. but i'll try that hookup
       THANX!




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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From BCAH at aol.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:23:41 EST
Subject: Ford Fiesta alt
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

The latest Classic Motorsports mag has an article about upgrading to a Bosch 
alternator. It says that with the help of a few washers, it slips right in. 
Has anyone done this on a 1275 and just how many washers are they talking 
about?Bob C






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: No LBC now the hilton sisters
To: PAsgeirsson <PAsgeirsson@att.net>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

oh, werd...the pic says it all.  (work safe)

http://www.downshiftonpedestrians.com/slush/hitit.jpg

--- PAsgeirsson <PAsgeirsson@att.net> wrote:
> I really like your spelling of roles!!!  LOL!
> 
> Pa
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "the flashfire" <psychalgia@rocketmail.com>
> > 
> > IMDB shows that Paris has already been in at least 8 major rolls in
> her
> > acting career, thats more than a lot of people who try seriously.
> 


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From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Tue Jan 27 21:00:50 2004
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To: BCAH@aol.com
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Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
References: <50.2777849c.2d48853d@aol.com>

BCAH@aol.com wrote:

> The latest Classic Motorsports mag has an article about upgrading to a Bosch 
> alternator. It says that with the help of a few washers, it slips right in. 
> Has anyone done this on a 1275 and just how many washers are they talking 
> about?Bob C


Not the Bosch, it's just too big. Like the GM, way too big, 1/2 the size 
of the engine!! The Fetiva alt is nice and small, not much thicker than 
the generator and 1/2 as long. It just looks right.


-- 
Frank Clarici
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Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
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BCAH@aol.com wrote:

> The latest Classic Motorsports mag has an article about upgrading to a Bosch 
> alternator. It says that with the help of a few washers, it slips right in. 
> Has anyone done this on a 1275 and just how many washers are they talking 
> about?Bob C


Not the Bosch, it's just too big. Like the GM, way too big, 1/2 the size 
of the engine!! The Fetiva alt is nice and small, not much thicker than 
the generator and 1/2 as long. It just looks tight.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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Subject: If Rednecks Ran the Country, some LBC
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 5:36:45 +0000

Check the car in the yard!!!

http://www.catsprn.com/Rednecks.htm

Kent
1960 Bugeye






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Subject: Prices on Big Healeys Are Rediculous!!!
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 5:50:36 +0000

Check what this one went for and look at all of the pictures! Item # 2454967617 

Sheeesh...

Kent
1960 Bugeye






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Looks pretty straight..... the upholstery's not bad..... not a lot of 
rust....
I wonder if the twig'll sell it?
Bill

bushwacker4@zoomtown.com wrote:

>Check the car in the yard!!!






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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:00:36 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: BCAH@aol.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
  Jan 2004 22:59:02 -0500

Well...

I got a Bosch. Think it's same as used on
VW's. It IS huge and methinks the next
time around it will morph into a Ford
Festiva type just to reduce weight if not
bulk! :) 

It is much shorter than the gen so we
fabricated a distance piece cut from alum
instead of washers for the rear fitting   and if I recall correctly, the
stock gen bracket works better than the
stock alt. bracket for the front mounting. 

Don't recall
where my mech got the pulley from,
though. Done four years ago when I
acquired the machine.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:06:04 -0500 (EST)
To: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L)
Cc: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: BMC car radio
  19:19:58 -0800

Bill...

Frank is correct (naturally!) but I'm
not sure it's a "switch".

That switch might be a two position
"screw" set in the rear radio cover.
It's been over 30 years, though but I
definitely recall this "feature".




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>, <BCAH@aol.com>
References: <1ec.180648b9.2d48973c@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:03:43 -0500

I am under the impression that the Fiesta alternator IS a Bosch, but I could
be wrong.  This info came from pprok.com as recommended by Paul A. and Peter
C.  If you go to their website (www.pprok/pweb/c/wic) you will see the
interchanges and OEM numbers for the Fiesta alts, and most of them list Bosch.
(One is actually Lucas!!!)

So yes, the alt. that I got, fit right in with no mods other than a longer
belt and that filing of one ear.  It seems just a little "fatter" than Lucas,
but the mounting is the same.  The bottom bolt is metric, though.

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: BCAH@aol.com
  To: gjbranch@comcast.net
  Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:40 PM
  Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt


  Hello Geoff, Do you mean to say that the Bosch alt has the exact dimensions
as the Lucas unit? Other than having to file down the ear a little,there is no
other modification needed ,such as the use of washers? Bob C






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To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets), BCAH@aol.com
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
  Jan 2004 08:03:43 -0500

This is cool info. and will definitely go
a long way in making Frank happy considering it's anybut from the
"wrong"
country!! :)

The lister who asked this
info was (I believe), installing an alternator in place of a gen.? So
there
is a "longish" travel to the rear mounting
considering the alt is much shorter (but
more fat) than the gen. Thus (I believe)
the "many washer" question.

Could I be incorrect? Of course! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:17:58 -0500

He mentioned a 1275 engine, so I assumed it was an alternator to alternator
conversion, but we all know what ASSUME spells!!!


Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>; <BCAH@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt


> This is cool info. and will definitely go
> a long way in making Frank happy considering it's anybut from the
> "wrong"
> country!! :)
>
> The lister who asked this
> info was (I believe), installing an alternator in place of a gen.? So
> there
> is a "longish" travel to the rear mounting
> considering the alt is much shorter (but
> more fat) than the gen. Thus (I believe)
> the "many washer" question.
>
> Could I be incorrect? Of course! :)
>
>
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:33:23 -0500 (EST)
To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
  Jan 2004 09:17:58 -0500

Actually...

I too assumed all 1275's were alternator
equipped until I bought my '67. However,
most 1275's were >'67 so your mostly
right 'cause I think '68 was the changeover year in this respect, in the
USA at least. Probably decided to change
it over to something shorter though fatter
just to make room for the "stupid" emissions air pump! :( 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:14:38 -0800 (PST)
From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: 1275 Rod Set needed
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Cc: jporasik@wachoviasec.com

Noted Thicko Jeff Porasik "Park" is in the midst of an
engine rebuild and is in need of a rod set for a 1275
(thanks Frank, but he needs all 4).  Cooper S AEG521
preferred, but AEG 625 are OK (Innocenti rods can be
sent to me directly ;-)). Please contact Jeff directly
at the cc: email address above.

Thanks - 

=====
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Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:18:56 -0800
  FILETIME=[0C0E77C0:01C3E5B2]

So for those of us with 948s what have all of you found works as a good 
alternator substitution for the generator?

Chris
'60 Bugeye



>From: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
>To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
>CC: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:17:58 -0500
>
>He mentioned a 1275 engine, so I assumed it was an alternator to alternator
>conversion, but we all know what ASSUME spells!!!
>
>
>Geoff Branch
>'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
>'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
>To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
>Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>; <BCAH@aol.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:54 AM
>Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
>
>
> > This is cool info. and will definitely go
> > a long way in making Frank happy considering it's anybut from the
> > "wrong"
> > country!! :)
> >
> > The lister who asked this
> > info was (I believe), installing an alternator in place of a gen.? So
> > there
> > is a "longish" travel to the rear mounting
> > considering the alt is much shorter (but
> > more fat) than the gen. Thus (I believe)
> > the "many washer" question.
> >
> > Could I be incorrect? Of course! :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cap'n. Bob
> >      '60 :{)
>

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To: PilotRob@webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer),
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  Branch)
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:24:54 -0500
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Actually, I think they were generators up until the RWA (Late 1971)

On Wednesday 28 January 2004 09:33 am, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
> Actually...
>
> I too assumed all 1275's were alternator
> equipped until I bought my '67. However,
> most 1275's were >'67 so your mostly
> right 'cause I think '68 was the changeover year in this respect, in the
> USA at least. Probably decided to change
> it over to something shorter though fatter
> just to make room for the "stupid" emissions air pump! :(
>
>
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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   "Bill L"
  <pythias@pacifier.com>
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: BMC car radio
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:44:24 -0600

It is a "plug".  Ed has one and I'll get him to take a pic.

Rick






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

I think my believed-to-be bone stock 1970 has a
generator.  I could be wrong, I only see it 2 weeks
per year.

--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net> wrote:
> Actually...
> 
> I too assumed all 1275's were alternator
> equipped until I bought my '67. However,
> most 1275's were >'67 so your mostly
> right 'cause I think '68 was the changeover year in
> this respect, in the
> USA at least. 

=====
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From "Larry Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Wanted: MGB Speedometer
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:53:41 -0800

This gentleman in Belgium is searching for a speedometer for a 1964 MGB. I
sold him a tachometer and he asked me to look around for him.

If you have one that you would like to sell contact him directly at:
raf.vermeiren@notes.basant.be






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Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:54:56 -0800

Chris,

I've got one 948, one 1275 and one Datsun A14 all with the same alternator
model.  I use the Mitsubishi one wire alternator.  The Datsun 210 bracket
and probably several Datsun brackets will work as well.  Its small, puts out
plenty of watts, and is readily available rebuilt from NAPA or at the local
breaker yard for a pretty cheap price.

Glen



----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <gjbranch@comcast.net>; <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt


> So for those of us with 948s what have all of you found works as a good
> alternator substitution for the generator?
>
> Chris
> '60 Bugeye






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 28 11:02:42 2004
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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: strength of welded steel
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:03:20 -0800

I posted this suggestion yesterday concerning the drilled out shock mount
plate and didn't see a response.

"What about slipping a flat magnet under the bottom of the oversize hole and
filling the hole with weld.
grind the fresh bumpy surface flat, locate the shock, mark the center on the
fresh weld surface, redrill and re-tap?  Good as new and you can leave the
spring pan in place."

I'm wondering if this approach will be as strong as the original steel or if
the welded and redrilled and tapped hole is significantly weaker than the
tapped hole in the original rolled steel plate.  I know that cranks are welded
on and reground to standard, but that new crank surface just rubs inside a
bearing and doesn't get pulled on by a bolt like it would as a shock mount.

How about it,  any metallurgists out there, or horror stories about welded and
re-drilled holes?

Glen






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From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
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My 71 had a generator, when it had an engine, but it still has the 
regulator befitting a DC generated car.
         Fiesta..... Ford of UK based engine. Car assembled in Germany.
         Festiva..... a Kia from Korea.
Peter C
==
At 10:20 AM 1/28/2004, Ron Soave wrote:
>I think my believed-to-be bone stock 1970 has a
>generator.  I could be wrong, I only see it 2 weeks
>per year.






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Subject: RE: strength of welded steel
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:39:10 -0800
Thread-Topic: strength of welded steel
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My weld engineer says it would be just as strong but is dependent on the
quality of the weld and the weld method (TIG vs MIG). You would also
have to drill out all traces of the larger threads and taper out the top
of the hole in order to get a relatively void free weld. 

He did recommend trying a heli-coil first.

Herby
64 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
billh@aaai.com
http://www.herbytoys.com


-----Original Message-----
From Glen Byrns [mailto:grbyrns at ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:03 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: strength of welded steel

I posted this suggestion yesterday concerning the drilled out shock
mount
plate and didn't see a response.

"What about slipping a flat magnet under the bottom of the oversize hole
and
filling the hole with weld.
grind the fresh bumpy surface flat, locate the shock, mark the center on
the
fresh weld surface, redrill and re-tap?  Good as new and you can leave
the
spring pan in place."

I'm wondering if this approach will be as strong as the original steel
or if
the welded and redrilled and tapped hole is significantly weaker than
the
tapped hole in the original rolled steel plate.  I know that cranks are
welded
on and reground to standard, but that new crank surface just rubs inside
a
bearing and doesn't get pulled on by a bolt like it would as a shock
mount.

How about it,  any metallurgists out there, or horror stories about
welded and
re-drilled holes?

Glen






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From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: re: Florida bound

per DLancer7676...
>>Hey George--We live just 7 miles off I-75 in Tennessee.  Stop in for a cup of coffee if you have time and happen to be coming through when we aren't at work. 

  Worth stopping, if only for a turkey sandwich! ;-) :-) :-)
(Oh, HI Paula! ;-) )
 Ed in NC






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From "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at hotmail.com>
To: bushwacker4@zoomtown.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Prices on Big Healeys Are Rediculous!!!
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:18:06 -0800
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Kent,

Wish you'd sent this before it closed, I would have (actually) bid on the 
car.  Yes, seems like a lot for a 'wreck'...but have you seen how much the 
fetch?!?

Herb


>From: <bushwacker4@zoomtown.com>
>Reply-To: <bushwacker4@zoomtown.com>
>To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Prices on Big Healeys Are Rediculous!!!
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 5:50:36 +0000
>
>Check what this one went for and look at all of the pictures! Item # 
>2454967617
>
>Sheeesh...
>
>Kent
>1960 Bugeye

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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: no lbc  two words : wrong towhook
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

a number of you have probably already seen this video, but it is a
marvel in human stupidity.  It is 14 megs, so 30 secs on a stout
broadband connection.

http://five-six.net/tonycar.wmv

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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Midget Hand Brake
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:09:01 -0500

Looking for a hand brake unit for a 79 midget...

Was wondering why the hand brake lever wouldn't pull up or down... well was
wondering until I removed the front seat and brake unit,  the D#$* PO welded
it.  Looks like the bolt at the union may have been stripped so instead of
replacing he welded it.  Now it is so tight that it would take superman and
the Hulk in a tug of war to get it to move.... PO  gotta love them... Just
what goes through their mind when they do this stuff...


Marco
79 Mutant Midget
mardep5@adelphia.net






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:38:49 -0500 (EST)
To: trevorwj@insightbb.com
Cc: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch), spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
  Jan 2004 10:24:54 -0500

"Actually, I think they were generators..."

And...I'll bet you're right, Trevor!1 :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:46:53 EST
Subject: Re: Florida bound
To: conan@intrex.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/28/04 11:25:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
conan@intrex.net writes:


> Worth stopping, if only for a turkey sandwich! ;-) :-) :-)
> (Oh, HI Paula! ;-) )
> Ed in NC
> 


LOL--Thanks Ed--

For the list--Ed passes by here on his way from NC to KY or back every year 
after Thanksgiving. . .what is it now, Ed, 3 years?  4 years?  I lose count at 
my age. LOL  No turkey sandwiches this time of year, but I bet we could find 
something good.

--David C.






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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:58:40 -0500 (EST)
To: soavero@yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
  08:20:50 -0800 (PST)

Nope!!

I am sure you are correct and I am not...




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 28 15:22:47 2004
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From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "Bob Walker" <spriteracer98@yahoo.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040128215924.68015.qmail@web41214.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: strength of welded steel
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:23:22 -0800

I use a magnet as a flat backing to provide a temporary bottom to the hole
until it is filled.  I don't put it in the hole, I put it under a hole.
It then pops off easily after it has served its purpose.  I have a giant
cylindrical magnet that I've used to hold things together for welding and
more than once it has been a backstop for the liquid steel.  Still works
pretty good as a magnet. I've also placed a DRY brick against a piece of
sheet metal to keep globs from building up on the backside when I'm trying
to fill the hole.

If the welding wire is noticeably more brittle, that would be a very good
reason not to use this method in a location that needed the original
hardness to meet a purpose.  So far I've done it to fill in holes in sheet
metal.

Glen

> You could only do that for 1 location. For the other 2
> locations, how would you get the magnet down in the hole to
> stay where you want it? Another guestion, have you ever
> applied heat to a magnet? They crumble away and become
> worthless! Best way is simply weld the thing up using a arc
> welder. Gas welding could also be done but very difficult to
> weld down in a hole. Wire feed welding not too good of an
> idea because the wire is "hard" thus more brittle than what
> is desired.






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Rick" <webmasterrick@comcast.net>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re[4]: BMC car radio
References: <8424-40177B7C-3@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net>
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Hello Rick,

       opened the thing up again... nope, no jumpers, no plugs, no
       switches, sliders or other movable anything. .. looks like one
       of the "speaker" wires is soldered (along with another white
       wire) to a copper plate on the side of the case... can't see
       where everything else goes.... but nothing to change.




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
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Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
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Geoff Branch wrote:
> I am under the impression that the Fiesta alternator IS a Bosch, 

It is, but the later Festiva uses a very small alternator. I have them, 
they look better, more proportionate to the engine.


-- 
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From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: re: Florida bound

per DLancer7676...
>>For the list--Ed passes by here on his way from NC to KY or back every year after Thanksgiving. . .what is it now, Ed, 3 years?  4 years?

  I think it's 4, except one was a miss when you weren't home. ;-)
  Ed in NC






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From Rick Neville <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Prices on Big Healeys Are Rediculous!!!
To: WFO Herb <froggi60@hotmail.com>, bushwacker4@zoomtown.com,
   spridgets@autox.team.net

I dunno, WFO, I'd have to go with Kent on this one.
That car has a tremendous amount of damage and I'd
find it hard to believe the frame wasn't tweaked from
looking at the pictures.  Unless the bidder is a pro
bodyman, I'm guessing it would take at least $15-20k
to put it right, just for bodywork, frame, and paint. 
BJ8s are really appreciating, but I think you could
find a lot better project car without so much damage
as a restoration candidate.

Rick
AN5, BJ7

--- WFO Herb <froggi60@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kent,
> 
> Wish you'd sent this before it closed, I would have
> (actually) bid on the 
> car.  Yes, seems like a lot for a 'wreck'...but have
> you seen how much the 
> fetch?!?
> 
> Herb
> 
> 
> >From: <bushwacker4@zoomtown.com>
> >Reply-To: <bushwacker4@zoomtown.com>
> >To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Prices on Big Healeys Are Rediculous!!!
> >Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 5:50:36 +0000
> >
> >Check what this one went for and look at all of the
> pictures! Item # 
> >2454967617
> >
> >Sheeesh...
> >
> >Kent
> >1960 Bugeye
> 
>
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Subject: Re: Re[4]: BMC car radio
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:44:51 -0600

<<...opened the thing up again... ...>>

Not on inside, Bill.  Round "plug on outside cas.  On a side.  NOT rear.

Rick






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>, <BCAH@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:48:11 -0500

The ones I was instructed to use came from 78-80 Fiestas.  Is that considered
later?  I guess I missed the Fiesta craze in the states...I can't even picture
one!Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini


----- Original Message ----- 
From "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at exit109.com>
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>; <BCAH@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt


> Geoff Branch wrote:
> > I am under the impression that the Fiesta alternator IS a Bosch,
>
> It is, but the later Festiva uses a very small alternator. I have them,
> they look better, more proportionate to the engine.
>
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici






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Geoff Branch wrote:

> The ones I was instructed to use came from 78-80 Fiestas.  Is that considered
> later?  I guess I missed the Fiesta craze in the states...I can't even picture
> one!Geoff Branch

YOU can't picture Donald Healey's last modified car?
Donald modified a Ford Fiesta in BRG with yellow trim. This car makes it 
to Healey events now and then. Better than a stock Feista but it's still 
just an econobox. It was dubed Healey Fiesta.

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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
References: <1ec.180648b9.2d48973c@aol.com>  
  <001b01c3e59f$291ec8f0$0300a8c0@upstairs> 
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  <002101c3e601$92c33bd0$0300a8c0@upstairs>

You po-tay-toe, I say pa-tah-toe; you say Fiesta, and I say Festiva.

sorry :-)

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
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Geoff Branch wrote:

> The ones I was instructed to use came from 78-80 Fiestas.  Is that considered
> later?  I guess I missed the Fiesta craze in the states...I can't even picture
> one!Geoff Branch
> '74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
> '72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>
> To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>; <BCAH@aol.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
> 
> 
> 
>>Geoff Branch wrote:
>>
>>>I am under the impression that the Fiesta alternator IS a Bosch,
>>
>>It is, but the later Festiva uses a very small alternator. I have them,
>>they look better, more proportionate to the engine.


-- 






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From "Phil Vanner" <phil at outtech.com>
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>,
   "Frank Clarici"
  <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>, <BCAH@aol.com>
Subject: RE: Ford Fiesta alt
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:45:02 -0600

As Peter noted earlier Fiestas and Festivas are very different critters.

The "later" Festiva that Frank is talking about is an 1988-1995 econo-hatch
one of the first "tall" little cars. Designed as the Mazda 121, built under
license at Kia in South Korea, and rebadged as Fords for sale in the US
market. Bulletproof little beaters, they make great snow cars. I have owned
a couple.  THey use the "generic" Japanese alternator favored by Frank for
Spridget conversion. I used one for my Midget.

The Fiesta was a Euro-Ford hatchback, lower than a Festiva. Handled way
better than any Festiva ever could. They lived on in European markets long
after they stopped selling them here in the US.

Phil Vanner
Mini-appolis
hit ten below today...

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Geoff Branch
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:48 PM
To: Frank Clarici
Cc: Spridgets; BCAH@aol.com
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt


The ones I was instructed to use came from 78-80 Fiestas.  Is that
considered
later?  I guess I missed the Fiesta craze in the states...I can't even
picture
one!Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini






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To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: yet another SCAM  sorry about the attached version
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:49:24 -0600
  with any abuse report

meanining what !!!!!!!!!

willy thompson <wmthompsoncarpentry@yahoo.com> wrote: That Dog wont hunt

Bill crowther <cornerstone_bill@yahoo.com> wrote: Hello Williams,just like i
said i'm out of the states now ,Because i have been posted to resume work in
Europe . i will use the oppoturnity to have one of my client in the states
that owes me money to issue you a cheque on my behalf for the payment.i will
issue you the amount of $ 12,000.00 .once the cheque clears in your bank.
you will deduct the money for your 1979 MG Midget and send the rest to my
shipper. please don 't look at it that i am stressing you over the
amount.this the only oppurturnity i can use in collecting my money he owes
me. send the balance of the money via western union or via money gram to my
shipping agent ( so he can arrange for the picking of the 1979 MG Midget and
my other properties and send them to my location here.) i will asked him to
forward the payment to you at once through your address you gave me.Reply me
soon.please let me know if there is any thing you don' t understand.i will
also need your phone number so i can call you.

Thanks for your understanding and co-operation.

Bill Crowther.


willy thompson <wmthompsoncarpentry@yahoo.com> wrote: William Thompson
4921 regal Ct.
Racine Wi.
53406

Bill crowther <cornerstone_bill@yahoo.com> wrote:
hello willy,
 sorry for the late reply.i have just been posted to resurme work here in
Europe,and i am still every much interested in the car,i will take care of
the shipping.i need your address so i can forward my payment to you through
cheque.thanks,i look forward for your reply.
Bill.





willy thompson <wmthompsoncarpentry@yahoo.com> wrote:
The car is in excellent condition
The asking price is 8000
pictures at
www.thompsoncarpentry.com/gallery

Where are you located?

Bill crowther <cornerstone_bill@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello
I saw the 1979 MG Midget,that you placed for sale on line,this is to tell
you that i am highly interested in purchasing it from you.*please let me
know the present condition of it*asking price*send me the pics through mail
attachement ,means of payment will be via cheque or money order so send
me*name and address that you want the casheir cheque or money order made out
on.*full contact address that the cheque will be send to.*contact phone
number.Reply me soon with the information above.
Regards.






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Subject: Auto trivia

Some great British (and other country) trivia.

  <http://www.coldplugs.com/classicqa.htm>

I did pretty good, this was copied off the test page.
Your score is 94%.
Questions answered correctly first time: 21/25
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  <002101c3e601$92c33bd0$0300a8c0@upstairs>
  <40185D54.4000403@exit109.com>

Better than that, the SHOGUN!

That was a Fiesta with an SHO engine and tranny mounted in the rear seat 
with appropriate wheels and rubber to handle the 200hp.

Jay Leno owns one.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Frank Clarici wrote:

> YOU can't picture Donald Healey's last modified car?
> Donald modified a Ford Fiesta in BRG with yellow trim. This car makes it 
> to Healey events now and then. Better than a stock Feista but it's still 
> just an econobox. It was dubed Healey Fiesta.
> 

-- 






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Subject: Re: yet another SCAM  sorry about the attached version
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:06:55 -0600

er, Willy:

Do a goggle search for "Bill Crowther" .

Interesting.  "MIGHT" be legit???

j.






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willy@thompsoncarpentry.com wrote:

> meanining what !!!!!!!!!

Willy

Take the money, just tell him afterwards that you are waiting for it to 
clear. Say 60 days to be safe or until you have cash in hand. THEN mail 
the excess to his shipper using some foreign bank account.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: type79@ix.netcom.com, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
References: <1ec.180648b9.2d48973c@aol.com>  
  <001b01c3e59f$291ec8f0$0300a8c0@upstairs> 
  <401844E6.7000306@exit109.com>
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I had a friend that had a 77 or so Fiesta. That little piece of shit broke a rear
sway bar on a highway one summer day. It got to shaking like a fat, um "calorically
challenged" woman running for an all you can eat buffet. Limped it to a wrecking
yard some 10 miles away, bought a new bar, and changed it in the lot.
The Festiva is a later car, like the 80's or something.

Brad

type79@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> You po-tay-toe, I say pa-tah-toe; you say Fiesta, and I say Festiva.
>
> sorry :-)
>
> jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
> http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/
>
> Geoff Branch wrote:
>
> > The ones I was instructed to use came from 78-80 Fiestas.  Is that considered
> > later?  I guess I missed the Fiesta craze in the states...I can't even picture
> > one!Geoff Branch
> > '74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
> > '72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>
> > To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
> > Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>; <BCAH@aol.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
> >
> >
> >
> >>Geoff Branch wrote:
> >>
> >>>I am under the impression that the Fiesta alternator IS a Bosch,
> >>
> >>It is, but the later Festiva uses a very small alternator. I have them,
> >>they look better, more proportionate to the engine.






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Auto trivia
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:36:47 -0500

Frank,, you beat my score by a... lets just say you beat it.

Guess I need to do some more LBC reading

Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: FW: yet another SCAM  sorry about the attached version
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:49:12 -0600
  with any abuse report

-----Original Message-----
From Wm. Thompson [mailto:willy at thompsoncarpentry.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:48 PM
To: Frank Clarici
Subject: RE: yet another SCAM sorry about the attached version


Frank, the kicker on this deal, is even after the check "clears" it really
don't, see

"Scam Warning!!!
Overseas Buyers
There have been at least two incidents that I know of where ads posted on
this board have been targeted by scam artists. Please do not fall for this.
The message received indicates that the sender is a car dealer in Nigeria or
Saudi Arabia or some other exotic locale. It goes on to say that they want
to buy your car and they have a contact in the USA who owes them money. They
offer to have this American contact send a cashier's check (counterfeit) or
wire the money to your bank. Of course the amount is more than you are
asking for your car so they want you to send the surplus on to them. They
don't ask any questions about the car (they really don't care).
Beware of this scam. The premise behind this scam is that most US banks will
automatically clear funds after two weeks, whether or not they get a
clearance from the source bank. Many of them will clear a cashier's check in
24 hours. People believe they have the funds (i.e. the check cleared) and
then the bank withdraws the money a month later. It makes no difference that
you were acting in good faith!
Closing the account is not a good option as the bank will try to charge you
with fraud, even though the issue was caused by their automatic check
clearing. The amount that you lose is enough to hurt your personal finances
severely, but not enough to interest the FBI.
Internet car ads can be dangerous.

Here are a few links to read if you still have any doubts:

http://www.geocities.com/scamvictimsunited/scam.html

http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/discussion/detail.asp?postID=2012

http://denver.craigslist.org/den/car/8440679.html

http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=53359

If you have any questions, please email David Lieb.




-----Original Message-----
From Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at exit109.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:06 PM
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: yet another SCAM sorry about the attached version


willy@thompsoncarpentry.com wrote:

> meanining what !!!!!!!!!

Willy

Take the money, just tell him afterwards that you are waiting for it to
clear. Say 60 days to be safe or until you have cash in hand. THEN mail
the excess to his shipper using some foreign bank account.


--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 28 20:00:14 2004
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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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To: Mike MacLean <macleans@earthlink.net>,
   Spridgets
  <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Pics of Festiva alt on a Sprite
References: <1ec.180648b9.2d48973c@aol.com> 
  <001b01c3e59f$291ec8f0$0300a8c0@upstairs>
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Mike MacLean wrote:

> Frank,
>     Do you have a part number, jpeg, anything so I will know what I am 
> looking for?


This is one on my Blue Bugeye.

http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/alt.jpg

You can sort of see it on a 948 on the yellow bug too.

http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/bugeye2.jpg

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:51:55 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: macleans@earthlink.net (Mike MacLean),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Pics of Festiva alt on a Sprite
  Jan 2004 21:58:20 -0500

What sort blue connical sort of thing is that under there on the Blue
BE, Frank.

I cannot recall this item as original BE
equipment. I shall look under my bonnet
to see whether such a horn came on my
car...very strange. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:56:26 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
  2004 20:10:20 -0600

"I had a friend who owned a '77 Fiesta"

"Had"? Killer car, obviously.
Hope you pulled the alternator off it. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: yet another SCAM  sorry about the attached version
  19:49:24 -0600

Willy...

This guy doesn't use the English language
very well, does he? How VERY strange.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
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Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 5:51:04 +0000

The 67 Sprites with the 1275s had generators and were positive ground. They switched to the alternators when they went to negative ground. Since the 68 Sprite had the padded dash, head rest seats, smog crap and reflectors on the side of the fenders, I would bet that that was when they switched to the alternator too!

Kent
1960 Bugeye (with an alt)


> Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
> 
> Actually, I think they were generators up until the RWA (Late 1971)
> 
> On Wednesday 28 January 2004 09:33 am, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
> > Actually...
> >
> > I too assumed all 1275's were alternator
> > equipped until I bought my '67. However,
> > most 1275's were >'67 so your mostly
> > right 'cause I think '68 was the changeover year in this respect, in the
> > USA at least. Probably decided to change
> > it over to something shorter though fatter
> > just to make room for the "stupid" emissions air pump! :(
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cap'n. Bob






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To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
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Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
  Jan 2004 19:48:11 -0500

"I can't picture one"

Very fortunate for you considering what
they looked like. Very "vertical"!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 02:31:09 -0500 (EST)
To: webmasterrick@comcast.net (Rick)
Cc: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L), spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Re[4]: BMC car radio
  2004 18:44:51 -0600

You'll find this damn thing, yet!! 

I KNOW it's there, somewhere! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From the flashfire <psychalgia at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: FW: yet another SCAM  sorry about the attached version
To: "Wm. Thompson" <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>

rumour has it that Dan Paramore Racing was scammed by something
similar, to the tune of $75,000.  He went out of business as a result.

--- "Wm. Thompson" <willy@thompsoncarpentry.com> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wm. Thompson [mailto:willy@thompsoncarpentry.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:48 PM
> To: Frank Clarici
> Subject: RE: yet another SCAM sorry about the attached version
> 
> 
> Frank, the kicker on this deal, is even after the check "clears" it
> really
> don't, see
> 
> "Scam Warning!!!
> Overseas Buyers
> There have been at least two incidents that I know of where ads
> posted on
> this board have been targeted by scam artists. Please do not fall for
> this.
> The message received indicates that the sender is a car dealer in
> Nigeria or
> Saudi Arabia or some other exotic locale. It goes on to say that they
> want
> to buy your car and they have a contact in the USA who owes them
> money. They
> offer to have this American contact send a cashier's check
> (counterfeit) or
> wire the money to your bank. Of course the amount is more than you
> are
> asking for your car so they want you to send the surplus on to them.
> They
> don't ask any questions about the car (they really don't care).
> Beware of this scam. The premise behind this scam is that most US
> banks will
> automatically clear funds after two weeks, whether or not they get a
> clearance from the source bank. Many of them will clear a cashier's
> check in
> 24 hours. People believe they have the funds (i.e. the check cleared)
> and
> then the bank withdraws the money a month later. It makes no
> difference that
> you were acting in good faith!
> Closing the account is not a good option as the bank will try to
> charge you
> with fraud, even though the issue was caused by their automatic check
> clearing. The amount that you lose is enough to hurt your personal
> finances
> severely, but not enough to interest the FBI.
> Internet car ads can be dangerous.
> 
> Here are a few links to read if you still have any doubts:
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/scamvictimsunited/scam.html
> 
> http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/discussion/detail.asp?postID=2012
> 
> http://denver.craigslist.org/den/car/8440679.html
> 
> http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=53359
> 
> If you have any questions, please email David Lieb.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut@exit109.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:06 PM
> To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: yet another SCAM sorry about the attached version
> 
> 
> willy@thompsoncarpentry.com wrote:
> 
> > meanining what !!!!!!!!!
> 
> Willy
> 
> Take the money, just tell him afterwards that you are waiting for it
> to
> clear. Say 60 days to be safe or until you have cash in hand. THEN
> mail
> the excess to his shipper using some foreign bank account.
> 
> 
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Back up to too many sprites again.
> http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/
> 


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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:41:56 -0500 (EST)
To: webmasterrick@comcast.net (Rick)
Cc: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L), spritenut@exit109.com (Frank
  Clarici),
   spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: BMC car radio
  2004 09:44:24 -0600

Ahhh...

It's on the "inside"!! Very trickey. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040129055104.JLRJ18320.smtp3.fuse.net@smtp.fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:51:22 -0000

Just top add a spot of confusion.....

In the UK we talk about Dynamos and Alternators.  We don't do Generators on
British cars.
The Dynamo is the thing that looks a bit like a starter motor, rather than
having an alloy casing.  I guess this is what you would call a generator,
but then these are LBCs so I will continue to call it by its British name.

My '71 Sprite is fitted with a Dynamo.  I believe they only started using
Alternators on the MK1V Midgets onwards in the UK, but put them on export
models from MK III Midgets/ MK IV Sprites onwards. (GAN5/AAN5)

The Alternator is more efficient, puts out a fairly constant AC
(alternating) current and has a
built-in rectifier to convert to DC.  The Dynamo puts out DC current which
varies more with revs, so needs that voltage control regulator thingie that
is fixed to the bulkhead.  I always liked the look of the inside of those
things. The row of bright, thick  copper wire coils and adjustable contacts
just begging to be adjusted......Ahh, Bliss!!

Guy
Incidentally the UK Ford Fiesta is now in its 5th (I think) version, having
been in continuous production in its various forms since 1976. Reputation
for being small, reliable, basic agricultural engineering, not exactly
cutting edge but have always been popular. Throughout their full production
run they have almost continuously topped the monthly sales charts figures in
the UK, far more often than any other vehicle.

----- Original Message ----- 
From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:51 AM
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]


> The 67 Sprites with the 1275s had generators and were positive ground.
They switched to the alternators when they went to negative ground. Since
the 68 Sprite had the padded dash, head rest seats, smog crap and reflectors
on the side of the fenders, I would bet that that was when they switched to
the alternator too!
>
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye (with an alt)
>
>
> > Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
> >
> > Actually, I think they were generators up until the RWA (Late 1971)
> >
> > On Wednesday 28 January 2004 09:33 am, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
> > > Actually...
> > >
> > > I too assumed all 1275's were alternator
> > > equipped until I bought my '67. However,
> > > most 1275's were >'67 so your mostly
> > > right 'cause I think '68 was the changeover year in this respect, in
the
> > > USA at least. Probably decided to change
> > > it over to something shorter though fatter
> > > just to make room for the "stupid" emissions air pump! :(






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To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <20040128215924.68015.qmail@web41214.mail.yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: strength of welded steel
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:28:20 -0000

>From somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind I had the idea that heating a
magnet de-magnetised it?

Guy

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "Bob Walker" <spriteracer98@yahoo.com>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: strength of welded steel


> I use a magnet as a flat backing to provide a temporary bottom to the hole
> until it is filled.  I don't put it in the hole, I put it under a hole.
> It then pops off easily after it has served its purpose.






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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 05:44:59 EST
Subject: Re: strength of welded steel
To: grbyrns@ucdavis.edu, spriteracer98@yahoo.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/28/04 2:45:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
grbyrns@ucdavis.edu writes:


> I've also placed a DRY brick against a piece of
> sheet metal to keep globs from building up on the backside when I'm trying
> to fill the hole.
> 
> 

My guru mechanic swears by a block of copper for backing holes when welding 
and filling.

--DAvid C.






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: bushwacker4@zoomtown.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]
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You lose that bet, as the 68 Sprite, and the 69 Midget that just moved from Oklahoma to the East Coast both came with Dynamos, rather than Alternators.
Brad

bushwacker4@zoomtown.com wrote:

> The 67 Sprites with the 1275s had generators and were positive ground. They switched to the alternators when they went to negative ground. Since the 68 Sprite had the padded dash, head rest seats, smog crap and reflectors on the side of the fenders, I would bet that that was when they switched to the alternator too!
>
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye (with an alt)






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Subject: Re: Prices on Big Healeys Are Rediculous!!!
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  from [141.150.77.171] at Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:06:34 -0600

WFO Herb wrote:

> Kent,
>
> Wish you'd sent this before it closed, I would have (actually) bid on 
> the car.  Yes, seems like a lot for a 'wreck'...but have you seen how 
> much the fetch?!?
>
> Herb

That car is seriously twisted.  Take  a look at the picture for the 
interior, the tranny tunnel is shifted in both directions.  While I 
don't follow big healey prices, I searched the web for "BJ8" and "sale" 
and it found some nice cars for 18 to 20 thousand. They have to be 
better deals then that  healey pretzel.  I think the bidder overpaid.  JM2C.

Gilroy






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To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: bushwacker4@zoomtown.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]
  2004 06:03:03 -0600

Yep...

I'm convinced that Trevor was correct in
terms of dynamo (in defference to Guy
Weller of UK fame!:) /alternator switchover. I sort of hooked this up
(incorrectly) to when serious emissions equipment began appearing in our
cars
in '68 but I was totally wrong, obviously.

Did you notice Frank's horn on his
Blue BE? Sorta got a laugh out of that.
(Italian-American hot-rodder non-original
"upgrade"...yechh. Disgusting!!!!:)

"Neat" looking engine compartment.
though, with it's contrasting colors.

The Festiva alternator does appear
smaller than my Bosch, which is large
enough to the extent I'm thinking of
wiring it up to provide a back-up electrical
drive to the rear wheels to get me home,
in the event of "primary" powerplant
failure. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:49:11 -0500 (EST)
To: Guy.Weller@kencomp.net (Guy Weller)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]
  Jan 2004 09:51:22 -0000

Hi, Guy...

"Dynamo" it is!! 

Just kidding about the little Fiesta. It's
sorta a "modern" VW Bug in terms of 
simple, reliable, dependable, economical
transportation. Hasn't got the character
of the Beetle (or Mini) though! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Subject: Alternators / Dynamos

Terry Horler's book, "Original Sprite & Midget, The Restorer's Guide to all 
the Austin-Healey and MG models 1958-79" reveals the following info about 
Alternators.

Alternator replaced dynamo in the home market on body GAN5-128263, December 
1972. Intro 12V588 type engine. page 116.

By engine 12V67121 on the North America 8:0,1 engine 9570, July 73, the 
alternator was changed from Lucas 16 to Lucas 17, page 117

An alternator replaced the dynamo in the Australia market, it is thought, 
from chassis number YGN4-1000 in April 1969. The alternator used an 
external control box, fitted to the bulkhead panel in the same position as 
the dynamo control box. pg 106.

Had to laugh at this entry. . .
GAN5-123731 July 72 - Steering wheel spokes slotted to prevent the 
irresistible urge to stick a finger in the previous holed spokes -- and 
become stuck!

Don't put your fingers where they shouldn't be, guys!

Tim






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Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:47:40 -0500

I too had to laugh at the steering wheel mention.  My Mini has "the holes" and
last month there was a 10 year old boy visiting who saw the Mini and asked to
sit in it.  I of course said it was ok.  It wasn't 3 mintues before he had a
finger stuck in one of those holes!!!!!!!  A shot of WD40 set him free.

Geoff Branch
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:27 AM
Subject: Alternators / Dynamos


.
>
> Had to laugh at this entry. . .
> GAN5-123731 July 72 - Steering wheel spokes slotted to prevent the
> irresistible urge to stick a finger in the previous holed spokes -- and
> become stuck!
>
> Don't put your fingers where they shouldn't be, guys!
>
> Tim






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From <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: FW: Prices on Big Healeys Are Rediculous!!!
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:20:09 -0600
  with any abuse report

-----Original Message-----
From willy at thompsoncarpentry.com [mailto:willy@thompsoncarpentry.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:19 AM
To: William M. Gilroy
Subject: RE: Prices on Big Healeys Are Rediculous!!!


Well I might put in my 2 cents here

I picked up a GORGEOUS bj8 last year, for restoration, pics at
http://tinyurl.com/yswbs  body straight, good frame, good hood, didn't run
from sitting for over 15 years, (just got it running 2 weeks ago) and am now
working on the brakes and such, I paid about what that pretzel went for. I
had been watching that auction, and thought when it hit 7k that I got a
SUPERB deal, now I just think some one went NUTS lol

Big healeys are like sprites, to the fact, that it will cost more to restore
one than buy one done (with some exceptions obviously) but I watch them, on
ebay as a hobby, and consistently you could buy a decent one for 25-35 k
this pretzel starting at 11k is going to take more than 20k to put back
together imho

-----Original Message-----
From William M. Gilroy [mailto:w.lists at verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:06 AM
To: WFO Herb
Cc: bushwacker4@zoomtown.com; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Prices on Big Healeys Are Rediculous!!!


WFO Herb wrote:

> Kent,
>
> Wish you'd sent this before it closed, I would have (actually) bid on
> the car.  Yes, seems like a lot for a 'wreck'...but have you seen how
> much the fetch?!?
>
> Herb

That car is seriously twisted.  Take  a look at the picture for the
interior, the tranny tunnel is shifted in both directions.  While I
don't follow big healey prices, I searched the web for "BJ8" and "sale"
and it found some nice cars for 18 to 20 thousand. They have to be
better deals then that  healey pretzel.  I think the bidder overpaid.  JM2C.

Gilroy






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Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <1039-40190147-2541@storefull-3135.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:30:31 -0000

Despite my comments on the Fiesta it is NOT a favourite of mine (that's a
British understatement)

My daughter has one. It never goes wrong, is easy to drive and cost next to
nothing.

Its boring and horrible!

Guy

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]


> Hi, Guy...
>
> "Dynamo" it is!!
>
> Just kidding about the little Fiesta. It's
> sorta a "modern" VW Bug in terms of
> simple, reliable, dependable, economical
> transportation. Hasn't got the character
> of the Beetle (or Mini) though! :)
>
>
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:56:13 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

There also was a period of negative ground generator car production.  Gen.
was the same as on the Pos. grnd cars.

Paul A


----- Original Message ----- 
From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:51 PM
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]


> The 67 Sprites with the 1275s had generators and were positive ground.
They switched to the alternators when they went to negative ground. Since
the 68 Sprite had the padded dash, head rest seats, smog crap and reflectors
on the side of the fenders, I would bet that that was when they switched to
the alternator too!
>
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye (with an alt)
>
>
> > Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt






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To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:08:47 -0000

Not so long ago the makers of WD40 were running a competition/ survey of the
variety of uses that WD40 could be used for.

#1622 = releasing small boys' fingers from the holes in 1972 mini steering
wheels....

Geoff - claim your prize!

Guy

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos


> I too had to laugh at the steering wheel mention.  My Mini has "the holes"
and
> last month there was a 10 year old boy visiting who saw the Mini and asked
to
> sit in it.  I of course said it was ok.  It wasn't 3 mintues before he had
a
> finger stuck in one of those holes!!!!!!!  A shot of WD40 set him free.
>
> Geoff Branch
> '74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
> '72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
> ----- Original Message ----- 






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Subject: Re: strength of welded steel
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
From Tommy_Samuels at MARKIVAUTO.COM
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:23:42 -0500
  6.0.1|February 07, 2003) at 01/29/2004 10:44:44 AM

Glen,
THe strength of the weld depends greatly on three factors:
The type and tensile strength of the electorde material
The penetration of the weld into surrounding metal
The quality of the weld

If the correct electrode is chosem AND the penetration is 100% AND the weld
is is good quality (No undercuts, no porosity, etc.) then the weld will be
stronger than the surrounding metal.

Tommy Samuels
67 Sprite daily driver
60 MGA hot rod project






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: <Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM>, "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: strength of welded steel
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:29:58 -0500

oh no ya don't....i'm not gonna start at this point....LOL!
metalurgy 101A....  nope!  not very prudent!  not gonna do it!  ;)

chuck
have welders.....will burn holes in stuff for low fat food items and sugar
free beverages!
-----Original Message-----
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To: Glen Byrns <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: strength of welded steel


>Glen,
>THe strength of the weld depends greatly on three factors:
>The type and tensile strength of the electorde material
>The penetration of the weld into surrounding metal
>The quality of the weld
>
>If the correct electrode is chosem AND the penetration is 100% AND the weld
>is is good quality (No undercuts, no porosity, etc.) then the weld will be
>stronger than the surrounding metal.






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: strength of welded steel
To: Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net

--- Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM wrote:
> If the correct electrode is chosem AND the
> penetration is 100% AND the weld
> is is good quality (No undercuts, no porosity, etc.)
> then the weld will be
> stronger than the surrounding metal.

...and depending upon the alloy, anneal, age and heat
treat are done at the proper time (especially with
Nickel alloys...don't ask me how I know...).

=====
Ron Soave

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- Bruce Springsteen, after a fan screamed "We Love You, Bruce!"

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To: "Ron Soave" <soavero@yahoo.com>, <Tommy_Samuels@MARKIVAUTO.COM>,
   "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: strength of welded steel
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:29:07 -0500

rip tear , crack-crack...oh whatta relief it is!

chuck.
chrome molly ?   *snicker*     how else do you build a complete space frame
with roll bar that weighs 72lbs.....

>...and depending upon the alloy, anneal, age and heat
>treat are done at the proper time (especially with
>Nickel alloys...don't ask me how I know...).
>Ron Soave
>
>"But you don't really know me."
>- Bruce Springsteen, after a fan screamed "We Love You, Bruce!"






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From Tommy_Samuels at MARKIVAUTO.COM
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:05:31 -0500
  6.0.1|February 07, 2003) at 01/29/2004 01:26:35 PM

I wasn't even going to discuss nickel or more exotic alloys.  OOOOOH what
fun to weld and relieve.
Just remember  lighter, stronger, more corrosion resistant = more difficult
to process


                                                                                                               
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rip tear , crack-crack...oh whatta relief it is!

chuck.
chrome molly ?   *snicker*     how else do you build a complete space frame
with roll bar that weighs 72lbs.....

>...and depending upon the alloy, anneal, age and heat
>treat are done at the proper time (especially with
>Nickel alloys...don't ask me how I know...).
>Ron Soave
>
>"But you don't really know me."
>- Bruce Springsteen, after a fan screamed "We Love You, Bruce!"






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Subject: Re: strength of welded steel
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:45:43 -0800

> have welders.....will burn holes in stuff for low fat food items and sugar
> free beverages!

Fantastic!!!  How would you & your wife like a nice vacation in sunny
Nevada?  I can learn to cook low-cal.  I know I can!
Kate






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:25:28 -0500 (EST)
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  29 Jan 2004 08:27:08 -0500

Thankyou, Tim Collins!

Now...who wants to argue with Terry
Horler??? Certainly, not your's truly,
who was wrong on this subject to begin with.

"Thus and Therefore" (and as it will always be)....
.....we learn from our mistakes. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: Guy.Weller@kencomp.net (Guy Weller)
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  Jan 2004 14:30:31 -0000

"It's boring and horrible" (Say amen &
hallelulela, brother!)

but, it'a also reliable and economical...
a student's (parents!) dream come
true, eh?! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: thcollin@mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
  Jan 2004 08:47:40 -0500

"holely wheel"

My current 13" upgrade is one of these...
I've gotten momentarily "caught" in there.

Naturally I started laughing at my
predicament while swerving all over the
road getting my thumb free, imagining
the headline... 

"30 year retired airline pilot with
impeccable accident-free safety record
unaccountably steers car into tree killing
self in single car accident...investigation
continues, film at 11"




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Thread-Topic: Norristown swap meet?
From "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
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Subject: Norristown swap meet?
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NJ/PA listers-
 
Anybody know if the Norristown swap meet is happening this year? Anyone
planning on going?
 
-=Chris






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Harbor freight tools, country of origin NLBC
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>,
   midgetsprite group
  <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>

I got a shock today. I went to Harbor Freight to
purchase a vise that they had on sale and after I got
it to the shop I noticed that the brand is "Record"
made in England. Did China annex England, England
annex China, or did they establish a new province in
China called England?

Seems like a decent product. Poly-resin, light weight,
portable. Perfect for some of the projects that I work
on from time to time.

cheers, bill b.

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From DLancer7676 at cs.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:50:42 EST
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
To: toyman@digitex.net
CC: type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/28/04 6:16:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
toyman@digitex.net writes:


> I had a friend that had a 77 or so Fiesta. That little piece of shit broke 
> a rear
> sway bar on a highway one summer day. It got to shaking like a fat, um 
> "calorically
> challenged" woman running for an all you can eat buffet. Limped it to a 
> wrecking
> yard some 10 miles away, bought a new bar, and changed it in the lot.
> The Festiva is a later car, like the 80's or something.
> 

Soooo. . .after all that confusion, is the alternator to use the Fiesta or 
the Festiva?  

--David C.






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To: PilotRob@webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer),
   gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff
  Branch)
From "Peter C." <nosimport at mailbag.com>
Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
Cc: thcollin@mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins), spridgets@autox.team.net
References: <"Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>

"Thumb" ?   You sure?........
=====

At 03:40 PM 1/29/2004, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
>"holely wheel"
>
>My current 13" upgrade is one of these...
>I've gotten momentarily "caught" in there.
>
>Naturally I started laughing at my
>predicament while swerving all over the
>road getting my thumb free, imagining
>the headline...
>
>"30 year retired airline pilot with
>impeccable accident-free safety record
>unaccountably steers car into tree killing
>self in single car accident...investigation
>continues, film at 11"
>
>
>
>
>Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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From "Phil Nase" <pnase at enter.net>
To: <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: engine choice
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:58:04 -0500

I have a chance to buy a rebuilt later 1275 with the gearbox for an asking
price of $1500.

I am not yet sure of the engine year but I am guessing early 70s.  Rebuild
was done by an experienced shop now closed in the Bethlehem area.  The
engine has never been run.  Are there any drawbacks to the later 1275s?  I
plan to put it in my 60 bugeye later this year.

Thanks,

Phil Nase






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From "Gary  & Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <10099-40197DB9-3427@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:33:37 -0800

> "30 year retired airline pilot with
> impeccable accident-free safety record
> unaccountably steers car into tree killing
> self in single car accident...investigation
> continues, film at 11"

Before this most unfortunate event should transpire, I think that you should
consider the welfare of your beautiful Sprite and give it to me, where it
will be well cared for and safe from that horrible fate.

Kate






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   thcollin@mtu.edu (Timothy H.
  Collins), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
  2004 16:50:21 -0600

"Thumb"? You sure?

I'm never sure!! It does get embarrassing
sometimes and we have to make
suitable excuses for the sake of
polite society and to be PC.

Even in it's relaxed state,
it's such a raging member I can never
tell when it will go off on it's own. It's
tried to kill me more than once in terms
of "uncommanded" steering inputs, not
only on the ground, but in the sky as
well. I know no place safe from it's
unforcastable movement.

I thought going to a steering "wheel" or
yoke from a "stick" as I became an
airline rather than a night cancelled
bankcheck/airmail pilot would prevent
other than finger or hand-commanded "vertical/horizontal" excursions
but,
alas, I had not counted upon it's ability to
"reach" it's objective!!

I think it was my thumb, Pete...but I cannot swear to it. :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:37:13 -0500 (EST)
To: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
  Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:33:37 -0800

Well, Kate...

You'll have to fight with Lucy who owns
the diner wherein I have breakfast in
the morning. She "made me" promise
it to her when I die. She's bigger than
I am (and in all the right places, too!:):). 

Funny thing...I haven't felt as well as
I normally do throughout the day, ever
since she discussed this with me....

Do you think........Omigod!! You don't
suppose.....}80-<??!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:58:40 -0500 (EST)
To: psychalgia@rocketmail.com (the flashfire)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: "The Hiltons"
  28 Jan 2004 19:44:35 -0800 (PST)

In the NY Post today...

Paris is being offered yet another roll
(ah, errr, "role") in yet another yet to be
made movie by a major Hollywood film
producer...really...no "spin". :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller at kencomp.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Re: Ford Fiesta alt]
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:00:09 -0000

No,
Boring and horrible was a considered opinion, even allowing for the
mitigation of reliable and economical!

Guy

----- Original Message ----- 
From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller@kencomp.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:30 PM
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> "It's boring and horrible" (Say amen &
> hallelulela, brother!)
>
> but, it'a also reliable and economical...
> a student's (parents!) dream come
> true, eh?! :):)
>
>
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
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Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:14:05 -0500

Ya know, they make those little bitty spray cans of WD40.....

Geoff Branch 
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob at webtv.net>
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch@comcast.net>
Cc: "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin@mtu.edu>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos


> "holely wheel"
> 
> My current 13" upgrade is one of these...
> I've gotten momentarily "caught" in there.
> 
> Naturally I started laughing at my
> predicament while swerving all over the
> road getting my thumb free, imagining
> the headline... 
> 
> "30 year retired airline pilot with
> impeccable accident-free safety record
> unaccountably steers car into tree killing
> self in single car accident...investigation
> continues, film at 11"






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Thu Jan 29 17:22:56 2004
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From Lotus7ed at aol.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:22:04 EST
Subject: Re: Norristown swap meet?
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu, spridgets@autox.team.net

The Norristown swap meet is  on for March 28th I believe.  (Phila MG club)
                                                 Ed Wolff    BMC South Jersey






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:54:37 -0500 (EST)
To: gjbranch@comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Cc: thcollin@mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
  Jan 2004 19:14:05 -0500

"'Ya' know, they make those little bitty
spray cans...."

But...I, ahhhh....got a big "thumb" :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:06:37 -0500 (EST)
To: pnase@enter.net (Phil Nase)
Cc: Spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: engine choice
  17:58:04 -0500

Actually, Phil...

As long as it's an "H" (in engine number)
Series A, the later models are better as
far as I know considering they are 
thickwalled ("thick flanged"). I have also
heard the smog heads have a better
flowing combustion chamber then early
non-smog 1275's as well...anyone out
there "know" so as to confirm or deny?

OTOH...
If it's an "L" engine (low compression)
you can probably run it on 87PON unleaded instead of "hi-test",
considering
the original 948's at 8.3-1 called for
94RON (min) which would be about
equal to 89PON.

'Course there is no way to know the
condition of the gearbox but I would
think a "leakdown" might be appropriate
for the engine, maybe? (depending upon
circumstances.

If all is in good, useable shape (?) it's a good deal, IMHO.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Dan Walters" <spridget63 at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Front end lowering kits
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:30:30 -0500

I'm looking for input on chrome bumper car lowering kit:
 
Thoughts?  complaints?  anyone running them on the street with clearance
problems?  just a waste of time?
 
Thanks in advance.

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PAsgeirsson wrote:

> There also was a period of negative ground generator car production.  Gen.
> was the same as on the Pos. grnd cars.

Yes, in the US, I know 1970 models had a dynamo (generator) Possibly 71 
models too. 73 was alternator equipped for sure.
I don't think I ever owned a 72.


-- 
Frank Clarici
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:55:02 -0500 (EST)
To: psychalgia@rocketmail.com
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: no lbc Re: "The Hiltons"
  29 Jan 2004 17:19:54 -0800 (PST)

"I shall never live that down"

You may not have to....'cause you're
right. She IS in demand.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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CC: Gary & Kathryn Bales <kgb@frontiernet.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Willing of Sprites
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Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> Well, Kate...
> 
> You'll have to fight with Lucy who owns
> the diner wherein I have breakfast in
> the morning. She "made me" promise
> it to her when I die.

A funny story.
Back when I was selling car parts circa 1973/74, and older gentleman 
used to come by in his Bugeye every couple weeks for parts.
He bought it new in 59. He was always seen in the downtown Toms River 
area as he was a local businessman.
I very kiddingly mentioned that I wanted to "inherit" his Bugeye when he 
died. It was truely a joke at the time.
Well 5 or 6 years later I get a phone call from "Mrs. Jones" I did not 
know who she was and she went on to say that "Jonesy" died and he knew 
how much you loved his little car.
After a moment, I asked her who "jonesy" was. She told me Armand Jones, 
then it hit me. the old guy with the Bugeye! I thought I just inheritied 
a Sprite!! But she called me to inform me Jonesy died and she was 
selling his car. $2500. Of course at that point in my life I just bought 
a house, had either a small baby or a very pregnant wife, and no spare 
$2500. So I had to pass.
Be careful of what you mention in passing to people.
Bob, you may have just willed your Sprite to the waitress.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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Lotus7ed@aol.com wrote:

> The Norristown swap meet is  on for March 28th I believe.  

It gets later and later each year. I always go. Best deals are in the 
parking lot ;) But Ed always sells me something too.
-- 
Frank Clarici
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   midgetsprite group
  <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Harbor freight tools, country of origin NLBC
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bill b. wrote:

> I got a shock today. I went to Harbor Freight to
> purchase a vise that they had on sale and after I got
> it to the shop I noticed that the brand is "Record"
> made in England.

I bought a Record vise for my garage a couple years ago.
Much better than the Columbia chinese junk I had.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Front end lowering kits
References: <000501c3e6d0$a6e90160$6401a8c0@dan>

Dan Walters wrote:

> I'm looking for input on chrome bumper car lowering kit:
>  
> Thoughts?  complaints?  anyone running them on the street with clearance
> problems? 

Dan

I am running my Sprite at 1" lower than stock. It's nice.
Fischer blvd can be a real evasive drive, but other than that, no 
complaints.
Use 1" lower front springs, don't do the lowering blocks.
Also get some 1098 rear leafs to bring the rear end where it wants to 
be. We can take a look at Paul Clarkes Sprite, he just put new leafs in 
it. (1098) it sits nice.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:22:34 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Willing of Sprites
  Jan 2004 21:00:55 -0500

LOL, Frank...

She owns and runs the place, Frank.
She's Serbian and worked over here,
as a waitress for many, many moons,
accumulating the money to bring her
whole family over, except Mom and Dad
who elected to stay ("home" to them).

She also managed to buy an extremely
upscale diner in town up by upscale
North Stamford area.

She's a helluva girl (woman, really). Were
I 20 years younger I'd be all over her and
I say this in a most complimentary way.
I have mucho respect for her. Divorced
with two young kids.

Nontheless, with burials going at about
$6k these days, I'll be using the BE as
my pine box most likely! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Midget Hand Brake
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:26:31 -0500

 '69 - '74 1275 Midget Hand Brake,,,,

Any one on the list know if the above will work on a 79 Midget?

Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:27:26 -0500 (EST)
To: spridget63@comcast.net (Dan Walters)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Front end lowering kits
  Jan 2004 20:30:30 -0500

VB carries these as well as Peter May
"across the way".

BTDT, ain't goin' there again but...

lowering the center of gravity will make
for better handling which is already pretty
damn good in stock form, anyway.

Problem will be kerbs/driveways in terms
of the exhaust system which hopefully
is clamped, rather than welded! Any
carelessness at all in this respect will
find you in the muffler repair shop in a
heartbeat. 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Willing of Sprites
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Robert E. Shlafer wrote:


> Nontheless, with burials going at about
> $6k these days, I'll be using the BE as
> my pine box most likely! :)

I can build you a pine box. Cedar if you like, but it will cost you a 
Bugeye ;)
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>, <Lotus7ed@aol.com>
Cc: <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Norristown swap meet?
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:04:43 -0500

i try to attend evry year as well!  and evry year i go with "nothing on my
list to buy" i just want to rummage a bit and see evryone , then gather for
a bit of lunch.   and evry year i end up begging someone for a plastic bag
as all the little bits i find gets out of hand!  (i fear taking my own bag
as it might "jinx" my finding anything i can use!...LOL!)
i believe i'll be back from racing at sebring by then!

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
To: Lotus7ed@aol.com <Lotus7ed@aol.com>
Cc: cbking@alum.rpi.edu <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>; spridgets@autox.team.net
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Norristown swap meet?


>Lotus7ed@aol.com wrote:
>
>> The Norristown swap meet is  on for March 28th I believe.
>
>It gets later and later each year. I always go. Best deals are in the
>parking lot ;) But Ed always sells me something too.






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:05:42 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Willing of Sprites
  Jan 2004 22:02:20 -0500

"...but it will cost you a BE"

Exactly my point, frankster!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: Marco <mardep5@adelphia.net>
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Subject: Re: Midget Hand Brake
References: <004001c3e6d8$79b44e90$9865fea9@Notebook>

Marco wrote:

>  '69 - '74 1275 Midget Hand Brake,,,,
> 
> Any one on the list know if the above will work on a 79 Midget?


It should but I never had an RB Midget.
Same body tub so the E brake handle should be the same.
I know the 69-74 is shorter than the Bugeye hand brake lever and I am 
using the later in my Bugeye. It fits the car better IMHO.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:17:00 -0600
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
From Lanier <willjan at earthlink.net>
Subject: Reference books

Hello,

I am new to car restoration.  I was given a car by my father in law that
has just been collecting dust, but covered.  It is a 1966 AH Sprite, 1098
motor it seems.  A nice guy on the list suggested that I get the Porter
book and I did.  I was just wondering if any of you guys when new to this
found other books to be a needed asset.  I will need some reference
material since all of this is new to me.

Also, does anyone have experience with the rivergate 5 speed conversion 
transmission?

Thanks for your input,

W. Lanier 






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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Lanier <willjan@earthlink.net>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Reference books
References: <6.0.0.22.0.20040129211421.02571140@pop.earthlink.net>

Hello Lanier,

       people on the list have experience with EVERYTHING!

       the concensus is that the conversion to a 5 speed is one of the
       best things you can do. most seem to believe that Paul A's kit
       is the way to go, but rivergate has its adherents, tho i
       couldn't name any.

       the books i've seen mentioned most often are the BENTLEY, and
       HAINES, both being better than the other for certain
       operations. and VIZZARD. one more is i think terry HORLER, but
       i'm sure someone will correct me on that one as my memory is
       fuzzy there.




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   "66 Sprite






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From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Alternators / Dynamos]
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 5:31:54 +0000

Subject: Re: Alternators / Dynamos
Now...who wants to argue with Terry Horler??? 

Not to argue but to read the words that he wrote. He said that the Lucas 16 was replaced with the Lucas 17 in 1973... Is the 16 a genny or an alt? A good friend bought a new Midget in 1971 and it had an alternator... A 16 perhaps?

Kent
1960 Bugeye






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From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
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Subject: [Fwd: Midget Hand Brake]
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 5:43:00 +0000

Sure will but won't have the mount for the idiot light switch that works the light that tells you that your hand brake is on...

Kent
1960 Bugeye


'69 - '74 1275 Midget Hand Brake,,,,
 
Any one on the list know if the above will work on a 79 Midget?
 
Marco






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From "Guy Weller" <Guy.Weller at kencomp.net>
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Subject: Re: Midget Hand Brake
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:41:19 -0000

Marco,
The hand-brake lever itself is the same,  but the linkage at the rear end is
very different.
If what you are after is the lever assembly that fits to the side wall of
the tranny tunnel then there should be no problem (check the ratchet and
pivot points are in good condition)
If you are talking about stuff underneath then the later ones used a more
efficient cable mechanism in place of those wear-out rods.  They are not
really interchangeable without modification.

Guy
----- Original Message ----- 
From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:26 AM
Subject: Midget Hand Brake


> '69 - '74 1275 Midget Hand Brake,,,,
>
> Any one on the list know if the above will work on a 79 Midget?
>
> Marco
> 79 Mutant Midget






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Subject: RE: Reference books
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:07:38 -0800

Me,  I do, really I do. No thanks needed, your welcome.
		Crash 

Also, does anyone have experience with the rivergate 5 speed conversion 
transmission?

Thanks for your input,

W. Lanier 






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From <lists at autox.team.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Forwarded: Linday Porter's Book

For some reason this was sent to me rather than spridgets@autox.team.net.
If your internet access is web-capable, check out

  http://www.team.net/posting.html

Reply to author, not me.

mjb.
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     Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:44:41 -0600
     From: Lanier <willjan@earthlink.net>
     Subject: Linday Porter's Book

Hello,
I am new to car restoration.  I was given a car by my father in law that 
has just been collecting dust, but covered.  It is a 1966 AH Sprite, 1098 
motor it seems.  A nice guy on the list suggested that I get the Porter 
book and I did.  I was just wondering if any of you guys when new to this 
found other books to be a needed asset.  I will need some reference 
material being a newbie and all.

Thanks for your input,

W. Lanier
------- End of forwarded message -------






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   "Robert E. Shlafer"
  <PilotRob@webtv.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net
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I thought the mortician unions lobbied for laws that make being buried in a
plain pine box, illegal?
IMHO, the death of our nation is being caused by lawyers and unions...........
I may be wrong,
but I doubt it.
Brad

Frank Clarici wrote:

> Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
>
> > Nontheless, with burials going at about
> > $6k these days, I'll be using the BE as
> > my pine box most likely! :)
>
> I can build you a pine box. Cedar if you like, but it will cost you a
> Bugeye ;)
> --
> Frank Clarici






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From <rbc43 at starband.net>
To: <dwramsey@worldnet.att.net>
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Cc: <willjan@earthlink.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>

> > Also, does anyone have experience with the rivergate 5 speed conversion
> transmission?
>
> I  have bought 3 Rivergate transmission kits. I had hoped one of my
friends would be the first to install the kit, but not so. I followed
the excellent instructions aand had an easy job of installing it. I also
bought one of his rear seal kits. it also installed easy and worked
well. The Datsun 5-speed is one of the best things you can do to the
spridget. It makes an amazing driving experience better!
Bill Perry is very accessible and helpful.
I do not have first hand experience with Paul A's kit, but it is well
spoken off in this list. You can't go wrong either way. You can reach me
off line for more info.
Roger Cotting
60 Bugeye Ironhead
60 Bugeye project car
74 Midget sons car
80 TR 8
79 Chevy Pick up
95 Mitsu 3000GT "almost done timing belt change"






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From "Trevor J." <trevorwj at insightbb.com>
To: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey@worldnet.att.net>,
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Yes, I have a rivergate kit.  I considered both, and ended up going with 
rivergate.  My decision (basically) was more or less a coin flip.  I had 
people from both camps trying to convince me of one or the other, but neither 
was convincing.  So, I decided on Rivergate because they are (relatively) 
close to me.  But there was no outstanding technical reason.  I was/am very 
happy with the kit.  The assembly, instructions, and materials was first 
rate.  (Everyone says the same about Paul's kit).  I have not yet had to call 
for technical support, but I'm told they are very helpful.  Hope that helps.

Trevor


On Friday 30 January 2004 04:07 am, David Ramsey wrote:

>
> Also, does anyone have experience with the rivergate 5 speed conversion
> transmission?
>
> Thanks for your input,






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To: willjan@earthlink.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/29/04 7:26:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
willjan@earthlink.net writes:


> I was just wondering if any of you guys when new to this
> found other books to be a needed asset.  I will need some reference
> material since all of this is new to me.
> 
> Also, does anyone have experience with the rivergate 5 speed conversion 
> transmission?
> 

The Porter book is a wonderful start, but you will need a shop manual as 
well--I like my Haynes, and the Chilton is a nice backup, but I wouldn't use it as 
my primary reference.  The Rivergate OR Paul Asguirrson (lister) kits with 
the DAtsun 210 5-speed are reportedly wonderful additions to the 1275 engine, 
but I don't know whether they will fit the 1098 or not.  Paul?

--David C.






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:23:53 -0500 (EST)
To: dwramsey@worldnet.att.net (David Ramsey)
Cc: willjan@earthlink.net ('Lanier'), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Rivergate 5 speed
  Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:07:38 -0800

Sure, David...

There are two Datsun 5 speed conversions

1.Morriservice (Paul A)
2.Rivergate     (Bill Perry)

There are minor differences. Paul A.
is on the midgetsprite list also and is out
in the Northwest. Rivergate hails from
Tennessee which is closest to me so
I ordered from Rivergate considering
shipping costs. If Morrisservice had been
closer I would have ordered from Paul.

Both of these kits cost the same and have been perfected over the years
for easiest
installation.

What is it you specifically want to know?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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As others have mentioned, there are a few:
 
A Haynes and/or Chiltons shop manual is a good start. Complementary is
the Bentley reprint of the original factory shop manual. For early cars
like yours, it also contains the driver manual. (i.e owners manual).
 
For tuning, David Vizard's "Tuning the BMC A-series engine" is a must. I
don't own this one, as I have a 1500...
 
For restoration, esp. if you want to keep things original, a reprint of
Terry Horler's "Original Sprite and Midget" is a must. It's quite a
fascinating read, even if you're not staying original.
 
Most of these are available through Moss Motors, or one of their many
resellers (some of whom are on the list - say Hi, guys), or Amazon or
Barnes and Nobel, etc. They pop up on ebay from time to time too.
 
Horler is a good one to get, as no one is sure how long the latest
printing run will last. Anyone remember the $100+ Horler auctions on
ebay? ;)
 
-=Chris


<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Lanier
Sent: 1/29/2004 10:16:00 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Reference books 

Hello, 

I am new to car restoration. I was given a car by my father in law that 
has just been collecting dust, but covered. It is a 1966 AH Sprite, 1098
motor it seems. A nice guy on the list suggested that I get the Porter 
book and I did. I was just wondering if any of you guys when new to this
found other books to be a needed asset. I will need some reference 
material since all of this is new to me. 

Also, does anyone have experience with the rivergate 5 speed conversion 
transmission? 

Thanks for your input, 

W. Lanier 






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:00:33 -0500

Guy Weller wrote:
> I guess this is what you would call a generator,
> but then these are LBCs so I will continue to call 
> it by its British name.

The majority of LBCs went to the States. In a democracy, 
the majority rules -- we decided to call it a generator.  On 
the other hand, in a monarchy, you abide by the rules of the 
King or Queen -- you have to call it a dynamo. :-)

HTH,
Kent
'56 100 BN2






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From "Trevor J." <trevorwj at insightbb.com>
To: PilotRob@webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Subject: Re: Rivergate 5 speed
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:59:39 -0500
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If I recall correctly, one of the main differences between the kits is the 
clutch.  MorrisService uses a standard Datsun clutch, and the Rivergate uses 
a modified/custom clutch.  So, with the Morrisservice you will need to have 
your flywheel modified, but with Rivergate you don't need to modify your 
flywheel yet you will need to buy clutch replacements from them or have your 
local performance shop make up one for you.  I'm sure there are other 
differences as well, but this was the largest that I noticed.

Ok, Cap'n.  Where are you located?  I thought you were in California for some 
reason.

On Friday 30 January 2004 08:23 am, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
> Sure, David...
>
> There are two Datsun 5 speed conversions
>
> 1.Morriservice (Paul A)
> 2.Rivergate     (Bill Perry)
>
> There are minor differences. Paul A.
> is on the midgetsprite list also and is out
> in the Northwest. Rivergate hails from
> Tennessee which is closest to me so
> I ordered from Rivergate considering
> shipping costs. If Morrisservice had been
> closer I would have ordered from Paul.
>
> Both of these kits cost the same and have been perfected over the years
> for easiest
> installation.
>
> What is it you specifically want to know?
>
>
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob
>      '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:22:49 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  2004 06:00:02 -0600

Well...

I'll agree with you on lawyers....in that
judges are lawyers.

Unions are a necessary evil. I learned this
in the airline business wherein the financial priorities of the owners
don't
always jell with the Federal Air Regulations which Federal Cerfificate
Holders (Pilots, Mechanics, Controllers, etc.) are bound by in the
performance
of their professional responsibilities, in
terms of safety.

Fr'instance, my father was in the newspaper business (owner-distributor)
for years. When other businesses such
as his unionized, his did not. Why? His
people discovered when they talked to
union people that they were already
getting the benefits which the union could
provide...and better money to boot than
other like firms. I, along with my two
brothers worked for my Dad in the family
biz since the age of 11, right through high
school.

Thus, I was brought up as a non-union
person. Through and after college, I worked both part time and full time
for many firms in a variety of positions.
These firms did not abuse their workers,
paid reasonably and provided reasonable benefits in terms of the "going
rate" and thus, did not require a union.

Then I got into the flying biz and found
you had to cut corners to make the boss
happy OR, there was someone waiting
for your job just outside the door who
would, if you wouldn't. The biz was regulated at the time. Jobs were few
and far between and there were plenty
of pilots...we like to fly you know!! :)

I've done things to keep flying jobs in
order to build time/experience so as to 
"advance" in my profession that you
don't wanna hear about and that I am
not proud of. I also left my first (non-
union) regional airline pilot position when
I got tired of doing these things and
decided to "go straight", even if it meant
leaving the profession. De-regulation
and subsequent tough FAA "self-policing"
rules saved me!!

Unions are a function of management or
management technique. Unions don't
make employees happy...unions make
life with certain types of employers
bearable and in the case of Airline 
Federal Certificate Holders, allow them
to do the job by Federal Air Regs. that
allow them to hold onto their certificates
and thus, continue to fill their "rice bowls"!

American Airlines requires
a union 'cause management lacks
"discipline" and thus often makes arbitrary
decisions in favor of saving money, many
times to the detriment of the welfare of 
their employees.

In terms of employee relations,
the corporate culture is "adversarial".
Rule is by "fear" of punishment. Most
airlines are run this way. It's childish
because it denys the mature adult
"win/win" relationship. So the employees
have to fight for reasonable pay and
working conditions. A real PITA,
"childish" working relationship, but
shit rolls downhill and management sets the tone in this respect.

There are others airlines run by
educated mangement who respect the
win/win adult relationship...Virgin, Jet Blue and Southwest come
immediately
to mind. These managers realize their
people as a "resource", not a disposable
"tool". And the respect and appreciate the
fact the primary boss of any Federal
Certificate Holder is the Government
who issues and allows the holder to
continue to practice his profession in
accordance with pertinent government
rules that govern the use of said
certificate, despite contrary orders which
may be given by his current employer.

As for unions and their existence,
go deeper into this and you get into
some of the reasons for illegal immigration and the maintenance of
open borders despite the threat of global terrorism. Go deeper and
you'll find out
(part) of who really runs your government
to the extent of certain Presidential
decisions to one extent or another!! :):)

Bad management/bosses, not bad employees/workers, are responsible
for unions. And unions have their "up"
and "downside" (absolutely) for sure.

End of rant!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:24:29 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Willing of Sprites
  2004 06:00:02 -0600

Brad..

They say anything about balsa wood?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Front end lowering kits
To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>,
   Dan Walters
  <spridget63@comcast.net>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com> wrote:
> Dan
> I am running my Sprite at 1" lower than stock. It's
> nice.
> Fischer blvd can be a real evasive drive, but other
> than that, no 
> complaints.

I will never forget part of the drive in Peter's Gift
Sprite through Gary, Indiana in Feb 2001, probably the
worst stretch of highway in North America (in the
worst city, bar none, inarguably!). The potholes were
1/2 a Sprite in size, and Frank was at the wheel,
doing the best 65 MPH autocross I have ever seen.  So
when he says "real evasive", believe him!

=====
Ron Soave

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References: <8c.243f4c0.2d4bb13b@cs.com>
Subject: Re: Reference books
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:36:58 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

----- Original Message ----- 
From <DLancer7676 at cs.com>
To: <willjan@earthlink.net>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>

.  The Rivergate OR Paul Asguirrson (lister) kits with
> the DAtsun 210 5-speed are reportedly wonderful additions to the 1275
engine,
> but I don't know whether they will fit the 1098 or not.  Paul?
>
> --David C.

Fits the 1098 or 948 also.

Paul A






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  <182969432.20040129201018@pacifier.com>

Very true.

Haines? I think you meant Hanes which excels in the underwear field 
while Haynes writes a generally decent practical repair manual.

The Bentley series of manuals are reprints of the factory publications 
and offer up another perspective to repairs and maintenance.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Bill L wrote:

> Hello Lanier,
> 

> 
>        the books i've seen mentioned most often are the BENTLEY, and
>        HAINES, both being better than the other for certain
>        operations. 






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From "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano at mindspring.com>
To: "'Frank Clarici'" <spritenut@exit109.com>
Cc: <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Norristown swap meet?
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:41:01 -0600
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Hey all.  I just spoke to my wife.  I don't think I'll be going to
Norristown this year...  :(

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net [mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:08 PM
To: Lotus7ed@aol.com
Cc: cbking@alum.rpi.edu; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Norristown swap meet?

Lotus7ed@aol.com wrote:

> The Norristown swap meet is  on for March 28th I believe.  

It gets later and later each year. I always go. Best deals are in the 
parking lot ;) But Ed always sells me something too.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/

replies!






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To: trevorwj@insightbb.com (Trevor J.)
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Subject: Re: Reference books
  Jan 2004 07:46:29 -0500

Trev...

Just a short word, here. I have had the
pleasure of both dealing with Paul A. and
Bill, having bought parts from each.

Deal with Paul and you are essentially
dealing with Bill in terms of customer
service/support. They are both excellent
to do business with..just excellent! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:59:42 -0500 (EST)
To: trevorwj@insightbb.com
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Subject: Re: Rivergate 5 speed
  Jan 2004 08:59:39 -0500

"Where are you located"

Presently on the couch (with cat) in
living room, Stamford, CT, US of A,
planet Earth. You? :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:06:27 -0500 (EST)
To: kentmclean@mindspring.com (Kent McLean)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
  30 Jan 2004 09:00:33 -0500

Thankyou, Kent....

for a reasonable explanation as to why
"gen" here, and "dynamo" over there!!!

(I knew there had to be a decent, logical explanation..I just knew
it!!:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Bit of a commute for you these days, eh? ;-)
 
-=Chris


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Michael Graziano
Sent: 1/30/2004 9:40:01 AM
To: spritenut@exit109.com
Cc: cbking@alum.rpi.edu;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Norristown swap meet? 

Hey all. I just spoke to my wife. I don't think I'll be going to 
Norristown this year... :( 

Mike 

-----Original Message----- 
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[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net] 
On Behalf Of Frank Clarici 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:08 PM 
To: Lotus7ed@aol.com 
Cc: cbking@alum.rpi.edu; spridgets@autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: Norristown swap meet? 

Lotus7ed@aol.com wrote: 

> The Norristown swap meet is on for March 28th I believe. 

It gets later and later each year. I always go. Best deals are in the 
parking lot ;) But Ed always sells me something too. 
-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
Back up to too many sprites again. 
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/ 






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From Tommy_Samuels at MARKIVAUTO.COM
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:15:28 -0500
  6.0.1|February 07, 2003) at 01/30/2004 10:36:34 AM

Dan
I made my own and dropped the nose of my 67 one inch. It seems to improve
cornering.  I really like the way it looks.  The front wheels fill their
spaces better with the nose down.
I machined aluminum spacers.  A better idea from the list is to stack steel
washers.   You can drop the nose for about $3 using nuts, bolts, and
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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Midget Hand Brake
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:39:29 -0500

Looking for just the complete unit on the side tub.  The cable is in place
through the tunnel and at the rear axle it all becomes  FIAT, which, is a
different story.


Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: re: Reference books

Also:
 "How to Power Tune Midget & Sprite for Road & Track" c2000
 "How to Power Tune MG Midget & A-H Sprite" c1996
 "Total Tuning for the Classic MG Midget & A-H Sprite" c1992
by Daniel Stapleton
 - These are actually all different editions of the same book.  For some reason the publisher changed the title.  (The 1996 edition has a slightly different title on the spine than on the front cover.  Front cover and title page are the same as the 2000 edition.)
  Each edition has several more pages than the previous.
  Published by Veloce/SpeedPro in the U.K.

 "Guide to Purchase & D.I.Y. Restoration of the MG Midget &   
  Austin-Healey Sprite"  c1984-1989
by Lindsay Porter
  Published by Haynes in the U.K.

  Ed in NC






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   spridget63@comcast.net (Dan 
  Walters), spridgets@autox.team.net
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  06:27:29 -0800 (PST)

You see...

Never mind all he does or all and all he knows.....
he's a madman I tell you, and worse,
an Italian one at that!!! He's a very
scary and frightening person!

(BTW...rumor has it Diane can beat
Frank in this respect...NOW...this is
only rumor, mind you...:)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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  with any abuse report

And I will add, the "English" version of Haynes explains things much better,
Especially on electrical but you almost have to have both

willy@thompsoncarpentry.com

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Oh, yeah. Forgot about Stapleton's book. It picks up where Vizard leaves
off, essentially, with tuning for the rest of the car. 
 
-=Chris


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: conan
Sent: 1/30/2004 10:40:15 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: re: Reference books 

Also: 
"How to Power Tune Midget & Sprite for Road & Track" c2000 
"How to Power Tune MG Midget & A-H Sprite" c1996 
"Total Tuning for the Classic MG Midget & A-H Sprite" c1992 
by Daniel Stapleton 






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What about your wife?

Michael Graziano wrote:

> Hey all.  I just spoke to my wife.  I don't think I'll be going to
> Norristown this year...  

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:55:03 EST
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To: toyman@digitex.net
CC: spritenut@exit109.com, PilotRob@webtv.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/30/2004 5:01:10 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
toyman@digitex.net writes:
I thought the mortician unions lobbied for laws that make being buried in a
plain pine box, illegal?
IMHO, the death of our nation is being caused by lawyers and unions...........
I may be wrong,
but I doubt it.
Brad
I don't think so Brad..but it may be in TX that you are required to have a 
concrete liner for the grave, although they don't do this at Ft. Bliss National 
Cemetary.

Being a Methodist, I'm certainly not an expert, but I thought orthodox Jews 
had to be buried in a pine box..(no, there is no joke there, I am being 
serious).

My parents both opted for cremation and that's how I plan to go. "let's go 
out, in a blaze of gloryyyyyyy!"  I DO plan to be dead first.

Send me $19.95 and I'll mail you my handy dandy home cremation kit.


Robert Houston

COP QUOTES

"Someone, somewhere is practicing. If you're not,
and someday, if you should meet, you will lose."

 
"Shoot them until they think they're dead."

"I don't believe they should use the electric chair, they
need to use electric bleachers."






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:27:22 EST
Subject: Re: Rivergate 5 speed
To: PilotRob@webtv.net, trevorwj@insightbb.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/30/2004 8:00:33 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
PilotRob@webtv.net writes:
Presently on the couch (with cat) in
living room, Stamford, CT, US of A,
planet Earth. You? :)




Cap'n. Bob 
.
I was believing you till you got to the Earth part...no way...... 

Robert Houston

COP QUOTES

"Someone, somewhere is practicing. If you're not,
and someday, if you should meet, you will lose."

 
"Shoot them until they think they're dead."

"I don't believe they should use the electric chair, they
need to use electric bleachers."






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I don't know about the pine box part. But I do know that they do not
embalm their dead, so the viewing and burial have to commence very soon
after death.
 
-=Chris


Chris King 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 
Being a Methodist, I'm certainly not an expert, but I thought orthodox
Jews 
had to be buried in a pine box..(no, there is no joke there, I am being 
serious). 

. 






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I know of a few people that should be buried that should be buried in 
lead lined graves.

Like the "Customer Service" rep at Webster Bank this morning who was 
trying to explain to the logic behind charging a service fee for 
depositing cash in a business account.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

RBHouston@aol.com wrote:

..but it may be in TX that you are required to have a
> concrete liner for the grave, 






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:17:24 -0500 (EST)
To: 60bugeye@ev1.net (LDS)
Cc: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal), spritenut@exit109.com (Frank
  Clarici),
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  11:55:19 -0600

Well, Leo....we live, we learn.

Thank you. At the core I am not a union
sorta guy but I realize why they exist and
who is responsible for originating them
to begin with.

Federal Certificate Holders love their
work (obviously) otherwise they would
not hold these certificates to begin with.

Do you realize how bad management has
to be for a union to get a foothold on the property among people who
love their 
work? }80-<

Sure there's a downside to unions but
just consider the immediately foregoing  for a moment before you blast
unions.

A Federal Certificate Holder doesn't go
to work for any employer without initially
starting off with a positive attitude, believe me. S/he can't looks
forward to doing what they love to do to begin with!!

Don't you think that if I could see my
way clear to safely cut corners (sometimes we can, depends upon
specific circumstances) to save the
company time/money that I would
voluntarily do so? Of course I would.
To me this is a part of the job and
comes with the territory but will always
be secondary to survival (safety) in any
case, FAA or no FAA. 

Different story though when the boss
orders you to do so in circumstances
wherein you have good cause not to
do so, and your boss determines on
your next six month checkride whether
you pass or fail and continue in his
employ. And your record of passed
and/or failed checkrides follows you.

As I said...unions.....a necessary evil
wherein less than educated management
resides. UPS and FedEx are wealthy
companies. Both have very strong unions
for their "drivers". Nobody f-cks with 
a UPS or FedEx "driver" who comes in,
does his job (according to the book)
collects his check, and goes home. You
do exactly what they pay you to do...
no more, no less. 

'Cause that's the way THEY set it up.
Do more than you should even with the
best of intent, and you damn well better
be right 'cause if you're not and you're
caught operating "outside the box" to
save the firm a buck (and you guessed
wrong), management's not going to back
you up despite your good intent..they'll
fire you in a heartbeat.

And the union can't help you 'cause the
contract says you'll "follow the book"!!!

All very juvenile and very expensive when
management is less than well-educated,
eh?? Working for American, United and
some of the others is like working in
a kindergarten atmosphere. It is SO
childish and immature but...that's
management for you at such places.

Come in, do your work, collect your check
and go home. Maintain a low profile. You
don't ever want to remind "them" you even
work there!! 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:26:19 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal), spritenut@exit109.com (Frank
  Clarici),
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  2004 13:03:10 -0500

You said it, Bud.

And you said it well. We've f-cked ourselves. Gave it all away for short
term profit to owners/stockholders.

Hopefully, we will come to realize our
errors and apply corrections in time.

Nobody believes we can "fall" despite
history's testimony otherwise. 

We took the USSR out economically.
You think this can't happen to us at
the hands of both the enemies "within"
as well as "without"?

Think again, kowabunga!!!

Osama and guys like Ken Lay share a
lot in common. Add in a "corporately"
run government and..."who's looking out
for you" nowadays? More than ever before.........Nobody!!!!!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:28:55 -0500 (EST)
To: RBHouston@aol.com
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  EST

"....no way...."

LOL, Bob. :)

I admit I "soar" but feet firmly on the
ground (as appropriately required when necessary) despite appearances to
the
contrary!!!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: Willing of Sprites
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:49:57 -0800
Organization: Morriservice

Jay,  I think you were talking to a "Customer No Service" rep.  So they now
charge you to put your money to work on short term loans, create capital and
so on for the banks profit.  Mmmm, Need to start a bank!

Pa

----- Original Message ----- 
From <type79 at ix.netcom.com>

> Like the "Customer Service" rep at Webster Bank this morning who was
> trying to explain to the logic behind charging a service fee for
> depositing cash in a business account.






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From "Gary  & Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <2876-401AADC4-3122@storefull-3136.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: NLBC - Unions
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:35:00 -0800

> Well, Leo....we live, we learn.

Do we ever!  I was about as anti-union as they come, until I went to work
for the local transit district.  I woke up one morning to 2" of glare ice
with an inch of rain on top of it.  I slid past my car trying to walk out
the door.  When I called in to say it was not safe to drive, I was told that
anyone who did not report for their shift would be written up for
insubordination, and possibly fired.  I, along with most of my co-workers,
made it to the shop, signed out our buses, and drove 6 blocks to the nearest
restaurant, where we parked them and called in saying we had parked the
buses for safety reasons.  This satisfied the company's silly-
a**ed requirement, and we sat there the rest of our shift playing cards and
emptying coffee pots.  As an interesting note, all the office and
administrative personnel were called and told not to come in, because it was
too dangerous to drive.
Kate






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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   Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net
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"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> Well, Leo....we live, we learn.
>
> Thank you. At the core I am not a union
> sorta guy but I realize why they exist and
> who is responsible for originating them
> to begin with.
>

Hate to disagree with you Cap'n, but here is my view on things.
#1. I have a good friend that used to work for General Dynamics in Ft.
Worth when it was still just G.D. I was at his house one Saturday night,
talking a little about our respective jobs. Some of his friends have
worked for me (I am a hard ass, if I am paying you to do a job, get off
yer butt and do it) and they had told him about the experience I am sure.
He is telling me that when he goes into work on Monday, he will work a
bit, then wander on down to the break room for a soda and a snack. If he
wants to stop and chat with Joe Blow about his weekend, he will. If his
boss has the nerve to say ONE WORD to him about it, he will just file a
grievance against him. He is protected by the union, and if he doesn't
want to work, he doesn't have to.
If one person at a place does this, and gets away with it, it isn't long
before others follow suit. I guess that explains why GD is now Lockheed
Martin............
#2. Some of you may know, I work in the kitchen cabinet industry. Part of
our lifeblood is doing the large expos, much like the one they had in Lost
Wages Nevada a few weeks ago. Chicago is another popular venue for
woodworking shows. We spend weeks getting displays ready, put together,
decorated, and ready to set up. BUT, in Chicago, you CANNOT set it up
yourself. You MUST hire a union carpenter to put up a display he has never
seen, correctly. If he f*cks it up, you still cannot correct it, you MUST
pay him to come back until he gets it right. And guess what, he isn't
working as cheaply as our own folks, who KNOW what it should look like,
do. Lord help you if you have accent lighting on any of your display. If
you do, can you use your own Wal Mart extension cord to power your booth?
NO!!!
You now must RENT their cord, to the tune of $300 A DAY!!

Yeah Bob, I really see the need...............



Brad






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type79@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> What about your wife?
>
> Michael Graziano wrote:
>
>> Hey all. I just spoke to my wife. I don't think I'll be going to
>> Norristown this year...
>

Get up early tell you are going out for cigarettes, go to the airport 
and fly into Philly. Call her from the plane to explain why you will be 
late. Oh yeah, purchase a really comfortable couch before the swap meet.






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From James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Lowering Kits
To: spridget63@comcast.net
Cc: Spridgets Digest <spridgets-digest@autox.team.net>

Dan,
 
1/2" kit = curbs and speedbumps are a problem
 
Most importantly, I can't fit my hydraulic jack under the side not underthe front of the car. 
Need to use another jack to raise car a little bit and then can slip jack under the car.
 
Is it worth it for the difference in handling? Not that I can tell but it does look a lot cooler. 
 
Would not do again is my vote.


Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise)
Dayton, OH

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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:43:49 EST
Subject: Re: Willing of Sprites
To: type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/30/2004 11:50:27 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
type79@ix.netcom.com writes:
I know of a few people that should be buried that should be buried in 
lead lined graves.
.

I couldn't agree more.  I just got off the phone with my wife who is trying 
to fix a problem for her 85 year old mother.

The old b...er lady, ordered a telephone from the telephone company here in 
NM.  She didn't like it, couldn't figure out how to work it, etc, so she sent 
it back.

They knew it was coming,so they issued a $200 credit for the phone to her 
account.  Whe had purchased the phone on credit, 12 monthly payments, and that 
COULD NOT BE CHANGED.  So, she took the credits on her phone bill, subtracted 
the payments for the phone, and now cannot understand why she still owes $200 to 
the phone company.

It would have made so much more sense to just credit the phone payments to 
her instead of giving her a credit and then still billing her for the 
phone...but then, they couldn't charge her interest.

The b..er lady is confused easily anyway.  Guess who my wife want to explain 
it to her.

I think I will run away from home.


Robert Houston

COP QUOTES

"Someone, somewhere is practicing. If you're not,
and someday, if you should meet, you will lose."

 
"Shoot them until they think they're dead."

"I don't believe they should use the electric chair, they
need to use electric bleachers."






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:45:04 EST
Subject: Re: Willing of Sprites
To: type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/30/2004 11:50:27 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
type79@ix.netcom.com writes:
Like the "Customer Service" rep at Webster Bank this morning who was 
trying to explain to the logic behind charging a service fee for 
depositing cash in a business account.

jay fishbein
.
Like the money market portion of my Oppenheimer retirement fund.  They charge 
a $15 annual fee for handling the account...more than I've made in interest 
the last two years.

Robert Houston

COP QUOTES

"Someone, somewhere is practicing. If you're not,
and someday, if you should meet, you will lose."

 
"Shoot them until they think they're dead."

"I don't believe they should use the electric chair, they
need to use electric bleachers."






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:48:14 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: 60bugeye@ev1.net (LDS), spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici),
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  2004 14:59:10 -0600

Brad...

With respect...

Nope..you don't (fully) understand, Brad.
There is a reason why things exist the way they do and it has nothing to
do with
you or me. We came along long after the process was originated and
initiated by
others who came before.

I understand your example(s).
Yep...there's a downside to the union,
Brad. No doubt about it. Having been
brought up on the "merit system" myself
I completely understand you. I would 
much rather work for a good boss than
one who needs a union to look out for
the average worker, for exactly the
reasons you give by example.

Union and worker laziness and/or
irresponsibility don't have to go hand in
hand but often they do, and so it is
within my industry as well in terms
of NON-Federal Certificated employees.

As I stated, unions are a necessary evil
when less than educated management
brings them in...which occurred in this
country long before you or I made
the scene, Brad. You (and I) came along
later. I know the history of my industry
and exactly why unions were brought
in.

I also know the history of the newspaper
industry wherein my Dad filled his rice
bowl and those of his employees 
(though not to the extent I know my
own) and why unions found their way in
to his industry (though not into his company) along with the history of
how the Teamsters found their way into trucking, etc.

I also know that Air New England, the
first regional airline probably in the
country (and a fine airline it was) was
put out of business by a union run
amuck with "power". As I said, unions
are a "necessary evil" when required and
have their downside.

So I know and have experienced both
sides of the coin.

The problem is that once the union is
voted in (and it is always for just cause
initially), it takes an act of God to change
things......
..... 'cause changing the corporate
culture which originally brought the union
in takes literally, years. The old bosses
who initially "set the tone" and old union
guys have got to retire as the new men
coming in as managers are better educated in "human relations" and the
trickle down affect of management change gets across to new workers
coming in who've not been tainted by the older union workers to the
extent labor relations/negotiations become friendly rather than adverse
over time. This takes literally decades.

The reason your skies are as safe as they
are today (with the older airlines) is their
unions. In the case of Virgin, Southwest
and Jet Blue, the skies were always safe
because managers were educated enough
(FROM THE BEGINNING!!) to treat their
employees reasonably well and HELP
them do their jobs well, along with letting
their Federally Certificated employees do
their jobs in accordance with the appropriate FAR's which govern their
use of the priveleges, duties and
responsibilities that come with the use of the Federal "tickets" they
hold.

You and I are not part of the initial
situation, Brad. We just inherited the
fallout from prior poor bosses and
managers. 

You may have a good boss to work for
and like me, are a responsible guy who
"earns" rather than "takes". 

But all bosses may not be as fair and as
reasonable as yours, any more than all
employees are like you and I. :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:10:51 -0500 (EST)
To: thistle_3619@yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Cc: spridget63@comcast.net,
   spridgets-digest@autox.team.net (Spridgets 
  Digest)
Subject: Re: Lowering Kits
  Jan 2004 13:12:04 -0800 (PST)

Good point, James!

I forgot all about the nuisance of jacks...
you're right. My '74 was lowered 1 inch
by shorter, ralleye springs in the front
and professinally (spring shop) recurved
leafs in the rear.

(Car had flares as well so wheels really
looked cool "in there"!:):)

Additionally, we needed 1" thick boards
either side of my mechanic's lift to get
the car "over" the hydraulic cylinder
center "support" so we could get the car in the air for service without
bending the
exhaust system, etc.

But it handled beautifully, looked very
cool and no, I would not do it again,
either!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:18:09 -0500 (EST)
To: kgb@frontiernet.net (Gary & Kathryn Bales)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC - Unions
  Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:35:00 -0800

Yep...good example of "why", Kate.

Management by fear and intimidation
always brings a union in...never fails.
Only a question of time.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:24:26 -0500 (EST)
To: PAsgeirsson@att.net (PAsgeirsson)
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com, spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: Willing of Sprites
  Jan 2004 11:49:57 -0800

"Need to start a bank"

You mean, need to start a Federal
Reserve Bank, Paul. That's where
Uncle Sam borrows and where the
really big bucks are!! :):)

Do a websearch on David Rockerfeller
of Chase Manhattan. Part owners of
the FRB, member in good standing with the Tri-Lateral Commission, 
Commission on Foreign Relations
and the best of "old boy" clubs. Shrub's
a member in good standing, too! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:27:55 EST
Subject: Re: NLBC - Unions
To: kgb@frontiernet.net, PilotRob@webtv.net
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 01/30/2004 1:16:45 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
kgb@frontiernet.net writes:
Do we ever!  I was about as anti-union as they come, until I went to work
for the local transit district.  I woke up one morning to 2" of glare ice
with an inch of rain on top of it.  
.

OK, here I go on the soap box.  I fully admit there is/was a need for unions, 
but the problem is, if there wasn't a totally advasarial relationship before 
the unions came in, there will be after they get there.  I'm not saying this 
is the unions fault, just my experience.

In the union shops where I have worked (as management) the workforce almost 
to a man (person) worked to the lowest allowable level.  Management came up 
with schemes, er policies to try and force them to work harder, and it finally 
became a game of "let me see how I can get out of as much work as possible" vs 
"lets see what we can do to fire anyone and everyone at any time".  

Doesn't sound very productive, huh?  With the exception of UPS, union 
trucking companies work some 20% less efficiently than the non union ones.  The "lets 
get 'em" attitude of the management must cost at least half of this.

I've worked as management in union shops and non-union.  I much prefer the 
latter.  My first day as a dispatcher on a Teamster dock when I walked out and 
asked the highest seniority driver to dock and trailer and he told me "I pass" 
will always be in my memory.  This from a fellow we let slide when he came to 
work drunk and pulled a knife on another Teamster.


Robert Houston

COP QUOTES

"Someone, somewhere is practicing. If you're not,
and someday, if you should meet, you will lose."

 
"Shoot them until they think they're dead."

"I don't believe they should use the electric chair, they
need to use electric bleachers."






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: NLBC - Unions
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

RE:
> Management by fear and intimidation
> always brings a union in...never fails.
> Only a question of time. 
> Cap'n. Bob 
>      '60 :{)

Except in many educational systems, where the only
thing that separates us from fear and intimidation is
tenure. For all of its faults, since we can't get a
union, it's the only way to go.

cheers, bill b.
'69 Sprite

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That's unconscionable. Drinking and knifing. (DWK).

But seriously, what I find objectionable is the fact that unions will 
defend any member regardless of their culpability.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

RBHouston@aol.com wrote:


This from a fellow we let slide when he came to
> work drunk and pulled a knife on another Teamster.






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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Fed Reserve (Re: Willing of Sprites
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>,
   PAsgeirsson
  <PAsgeirsson@att.net>
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com, Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>

--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net> wrote:
> Do a websearch on David Rockerfeller
> of Chase Manhattan. 

I believe we have a lister who is a member of the Fed
Reserve Board, if his name is not just a random match
from my MBA finance class essays.... 

=====
Ron Soave

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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:32:15 -0500 (EST)
To: w_burrell@yahoo.com (bill b.)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridget list)
Subject: Re: NLBC - Unions
  2004 16:01:17 -0800 (PST)

Yeah...

The whole adversarial, fear, intimidation
bullsh-t ways are so damn unconstructive
and wasteful of everyone's time, energy,
etc.

Being fortunate enough to find decent,
educated management teams,
bosses/corporations to work for is really
the only way to go....providing one has
a choice, that is. When it's not, union is
unfortunately, the only way to go.

It's a damn shame. 'Cause then, as
RBH says, it usually gets even more
adversarial. It's all so childish and
wasteful.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 30 17:52:39 2004
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From "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: "Brad Fornal" <toyman@digitex.net>,
   "Frank Clarici"
  <spritenut@exit109.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:51:02 -0500

Thanks, Bob.  Unfortunately, although we may attempt to get back on track,
again, I'm afraid we're doomed to failure for several reasons.  The first
reason is that we are too badly divided and polarized to reach a common
consensus on what is wrong and what should be done to remedy it.  There is
an element in this country who hates what we are/resents our successes and
is determined to bring us down to a much lower level.  Unfortunately, that
"element" I mentioned has a lot of political power, through their control of
the news media and key parts of our education system.  The other side has
allowed themselves to become convinced that, among other things, business
should be completely without regulation, thereby forgetting about the ugly
side of human nature, as well as why business became regulated by the
government in the first place. (where's Teddy Roosevelt when we need him?).
Here's a question for you all: What does it say about a society when the
highest paid, most celebrated individuals are entertainers and professional
athletes?  Hint: If you've studied the history of the Roman Empire (as well
as studying the Bible), you are painfully aware of what the above stated
condition indicates.
Our society has become a slave to some of the Great American Myths:
1.) New is always better than old
2.) Bigger is always better
3.) It is always someone else's fault
Now, I sure don't want to become the prophet of gloom and doom.  I enjoy
life and like people too much to become that.  There are still a lot of good
things and good people in this country.  This country will still do a lot of
good things for the rest of the world.  But, to quote a line from "Easy
Rider": "We blew it".

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:PilotRob at webtv.net]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:26 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Brad Fornal; Frank Clarici; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites


You said it, Bud.

And you said it well. We've f-cked ourselves. Gave it all away for short
term profit to owners/stockholders.

Hopefully, we will come to realize our
errors and apply corrections in time.

Nobody believes we can "fall" despite
history's testimony otherwise.

We took the USSR out economically.
You think this can't happen to us at
the hands of both the enemies "within"
as well as "without"?

Think again, kowabunga!!!

Osama and guys like Ken Lay share a
lot in common. Add in a "corporately"
run government and..."who's looking out
for you" nowadays? More than ever before.........Nobody!!!!!




Cap'n. Bob
     '60 :{)






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Fri Jan 30 18:12:54 2004
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From Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: unions NLBC

Hello spridgets,

      i gotta weigh in on this one...

      let me preface this with the fact that i am ACTIVE in the
      unions, being now in my 6th year as VP of the local, and having
      taught as an instructor for about eight, and on the executive
      committee for about 15.

      ALL of the benefits that we have become accustomed to in the
      workplace originated with the unions. these include such now
      commonly accepted ideas as overtime pay, the 40 hour work week,
      child labor laws, retirement plans, and health care, to name a
      FEW. without unions these would simply not exist, let alone be
      codified into law. .... ...

      whats one of the first things that we as a country want to
      allow the workforce of any country that we "free"?  the ability
      of the oppressed workers to form UNIONS! yet we all too often
      decry the power that they have HERE!

      while i'm not going to defend some of the corrupt practices that
      have become nearly standard operation procedure in many cases
      with "the unions" i also see what happens when their power is
      broken. .. look at the wall mart, and taco bell forcing its
      their workers to work "off the clock" that is -punch out, then
      come back in to finish a job that "had to be done before they
      could go home--, look at the people of enron, who's pension
      benefits were NOT guaranteed, and now have nothing.

      we NEED the unions to balance to the GREED of the corprate
      raiders to whom the workers are merely disposable, necessary
      evils that allow a product to be made or a service performed,
      and an impediment to the greater lining of their own pockets. ..

      In my union, (IBEW) both labor and management understand that a
      symbiotic relationship rather than an adversarial one allows us
      ALL to make a better living. Co-operation in facing the problems
      we have, give and take, allow us all to make a living. If our
      demands and practices are counterproductive to the point that we
      put THEM out of business, that's one less place for us to get a
      job. We need the entrepeneurs who are willing to take the
      business risks, and they need well trained, willing, productive
      workers.

      sorry to go on and on... its near and dear to me

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
   '66 Sprite






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From Ankitterer at aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:37:35 EST
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta alt
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/28/04 5:48:55 PM, phil@outtech.com writes:


> The Fiesta was a Euro-Ford hatchback, lower than a Festiva. Handled way
> better than any Festiva ever could. They lived on in European markets long
> after they stopped selling them here in the US.
> 
Actually, Donald Healey did redesign one of these at least.   It is called a 
Healey Fiesta and was based on the European version, which survives in the 
European market as of 2002.   Look up Healey Fiesta on Google and you will get a 
reference to R&T's August 79 cover.   It was a one-off and the car is still in 
existence owned by a member of the Healey Association in LA.   We don't seem 
to have a picture in our collection that shows you anything.

Annice & Bob
1960 Bugeye (Mk. IV in disguise) "The Sprite"
1966 Sprite Mk. III (Still in Boxes) "Trevor"






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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:37:37 EST
Subject: We're B A A A C K !
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

Thought I should make it known that we are back, and I don't know what to do 
about the dates on everything.   The system is supposed to take care of dating 
everything from AOL to the clock on the wall and doesn't know that days on 
the calendar turn over, too.   So I probably won't be using the system too much 
until I figure out how it all works again.   Makes me long for the "good old 
days" before user friendly became popular.

So we are making the rounds of doctors, dentists, etc. to find out what we 
have to do before we can go out again.   So far we are getting pretty good 
grades except for a need for new oxygen equipment (rented) and a small skin cancer 
for the best type (which I will have removed).   Bob is still fighting knee 
surgery and back surgery, and right now we both have colds.   I still have to 
finish a general purpose update on the last leg of the trip (North Carolina to 
San Diego) which is a lot less than it sound like.   

I'll probably lurk for a while since it tales me hours to read all this 
stuff, much less write any of it.

Annice & Bob
1960 Bugeye (Mk. IV in disguise) "The Sprite"
1966 Sprite Mk. III (Still in Boxes) "Trevor"






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net>,
   "Robert E. Shlafer"
  <PilotRob@webtv.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net
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  FILETIME=[EB83A940:01C3E79A]

Our company will not go to Chicago ever again...........
That show is not THAT important.
Hopefully others will follow suit

Dean Hedin wrote:

> The whole Trade Show Union thing blows me away (I have also encountered this
> in my work).
>
> What I find amazing is that companies that attend the trade shows tolerate it.






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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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CC: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net
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Brad Fornal wrote:
> I thought the mortician unions lobbied for laws that make being buried in a
> plain pine box, illegal?

Just this past summer I was at a good friend's father's funeral.
He was jewish. Pine box and not top quality pine either.
All the grave side attendees got to throw a shovel full of dirt on the 
box. That was a first for me, as was his jewish wedding. Stomping on a 
glass.
Over the years he has tried to teach me some of their customs.
And he also tells me the evergreen tree in his house near the end of 
December is a Hanukkah bush.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
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References: <200401301441.i0UEf5ZX008901@ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com>

Michael Graziano wrote:

> Hey all.  I just spoke to my wife.  I don't think I'll be going to
> Norristown this year...  :(

Mike, do I gotta teach you everything?
Sort of what Gilroy said. Tell her you have to run to the store for 
milk. Come to Norristown, Ok so you will be a little late getting home.
Just be sure you remembered the milk.
If you ask, she'll say no and that causes a fight. If you go behind her 
back, there's another fight. If you are 3 days late, there's one hell of 
a fight. So just do it and don't say anything, this avoids the first 2 
fights :)
You can't win any of the fights so you might as well loose only once.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
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   Spridgets Digest <spridgets-digest@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Lowering Kits
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Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> Good point, James!
> and no, I would not do it again, either!! :):)

I did it again. And probably will do it to my own driver again and 
again. As for the jack, it fits with just a grunt and a lift with the 
other hand on the frame.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "Charles Christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut@exit109.com>, <mgraziano@mindspring.com>
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Subject: Re: Norristown swap meet?
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:20:41 -0500

when ya come home 3 days late ya need a new tattoo!  :)
"worked for me"......

chuck.   :)
-----Original Message-----
From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
To: mgraziano@mindspring.com <mgraziano@mindspring.com>
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Norristown swap meet?


>Michael Graziano wrote:
>
>> Hey all.  I just spoke to my wife.  I don't think I'll be going to
>> Norristown this year...  :(
>
>Mike, do I gotta teach you everything?
>Sort of what Gilroy said. Tell her you have to run to the store for 
>milk. Come to Norristown, Ok so you will be a little late getting home.
>Just be sure you remembered the milk.
>If you ask, she'll say no and that causes a fight. If you go behind her 
>back, there's another fight. If you are 3 days late, there's one hell of 
>a fight. So just do it and don't say anything, this avoids the first 2 
>fights :)
>You can't win any of the fights so you might as well loose only once.
>-- 
>Frank Clarici
>Toms River, NJ
>Back up to too many sprites again.






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:21:38 -0500

Cap'n. Bob wrote:
> As I said...unions.....a necessary evil wherein less 
> than educated management resides. UPS and FedEx 
> are wealthy companies. Both have very strong unions
> for their "drivers". 

Unions were created to help protect the worker from 
abusive management. But over time, unions can become 
abusive themselves.

1) A few years ago I was working a trade show at
Moscone Center in San Francisco.  We needed 
something sent overnight from our office in Boston.
FedEx, $10, overnight.  When it arrived the next
day, we couldn't pick it up.  The union (nickname
starts with a "T", and please don't break my legs)
took another half day to deliver it from the loading
dock to our booth, and charged $22 for the service.
On group charged half as much for moving the 
package over 100K times as far. The union also was 
required to set up and take down our booth. We 
took it down ourselves to speed the process, but 
still had to pay $150 for the service. Two different 
unions, two different managements, two *way* 
different... results.

2) The town I lived in built a new middle school.
When it opened, there weren't enough buses to
make three runs for the elementary, middle, and
high schools in a timely manner. It was going to
take a few weeks to get new buses and rearrange
the routes. Until then, the teachers were asked to 
work another 15 minutes a day to give the buses 
time to make their rounds and get back to the middle 
school. They took the town to court, as it violated
their contract.  As a salaried employee, I've often
worked extra hours to get a job done. The teachers,
who are salaried, want to be treated with more
respect. But when asked to do what any other 
salaried employee is asked, they fought it. And lost
any respect they may have had.  The NEA with
2.7 million members has a lot more clout than a
town of 10,000.

Like anything else, there is good management and
bad management; there are good unions and bad
unions.  

Cheers,
Kent
'56 100 BN2






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From <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites]
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 5:38:11 +0000

A buddy of mine owns a machine shop and does a few shows every year. He has a big wooden crate for his display stuff. It has wheels and even though it weighs a ton, it rolls great. The shows won't let them roll it off the truck into the display area... A union dude has to roll it inside AFTER HE ROLLS IT OFF THE TRUCK - for $500!!! Not a bad job if you can get it.

PS - It costs another $500 to get it back to the truck.

Kent
1960 Bugeye

BUT, in Chicago, you CANNOT set it up yourself. You MUST hire a union carpenter to put up a display he has never seen, correctly.
Brad






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From Mike MacLean <macleans at earthlink.net>
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Subject: No LBC Speeding

Stop me if you've heard this one...


Sometimes you have to make a choice between a good laugh and an
expensive one. I like the choice that was made here.

While I was flying down I-5 yesterday (only 10 mph over), I noticed a 
cop with a radar gun sitting on top of a bridge. The cop pulled me over, 
walked up to the car and asked me, "What's the hurry?"

I replied, "I'm late for work."

"Oh yeah," said the cop, "what do you do?"

I responded, "I'm a rectum stretcher."

The cop said "What.....a rectum stretcher, and what does a rectum
stretcher do?"

I said, "Well, I start with one finger, then I work my way up to two 
fingers, then three, then four, then my whole hand, then I work until I 
can get both hands in there and then I slowly stretch it until it's 
about 6 foot wide."

The cop asked me, "What the hell do you do with a 6 foot asshole?"

I simply replied, "You give him a radar gun and park him on top of a 
bridge..."

The ticket -- $95 dollars. The look on his face, PRICELESS






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: The Client
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 01:10:02 -0500

Watching the movie "The Client" and what a surprise,,, One of the main
characters is driving a nice little yellow midget.  Although it is yellow sure
dosent look like the Mutant Midget...


Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 08:39:54 -0500 (EST)
To: dlh2001@comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Cc: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  2004 20:36:43 +0000

Hmmm...

They probably tolerate it 'cause it's a
once a year event...and in a way the
Company's are guests (although without
the Companies there IS no event!!:).

'Course, if the companies got together?




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 08:41:32 -0500 (EST)
To: macleans@earthlink.net (Mike MacLean)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: No LBC Speeding
  Jan 2004 21:47:04 -0800

Hilarious!!! VERY good one!! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From "Charlie Shelden" <shelden3 at pldi.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: looking for a FL250 Odyssey, some LBC and welders
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 08:00:20 -0600

Ok...this will cover the spectrum....

I know i'm bombing the list here...and 90% of those on the list are 1/2 way
across the country from me.  But i'm looking for a Honda Odyssey no not a
mini van but the dunebuggy they built in the late 70's through the early
90's.  I'd prefer a basket case, that needs a home.  I can buy built ones
all day and they are plentiful, but for me working on it is most of the fun.
If anyone has or knows of a "basket case" please let me know.

Ok now for the LBC.  My floor pans arrived today.  Thanks ED.  So for those
that have had a hand in the trailer maiden, she will soon be getting some
new floors, after I strip it and flip it.  I'm looking at a Hobart 135,
anyone have any experiance with this welder?  I hear they are now made by
Miller.

Charlie Shelden
1959 Sprite






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: Marco <mardep5@adelphia.net>, spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: The Client
References: <006a01c3e7c0$dd8e8d70$9865fea9@Notebook>
  FILETIME=[E7269570:01C3E802]

You should also watch Sinbad in Houseguest. He is sitting on a milk crate in a
70's Midget, at the beginning of the movie.

Marco wrote:

> Watching the movie "The Client" and what a surprise,,, One of the main
> characters is driving a nice little yellow midget.  Although it is yellow sure
> dosent look like the Mutant Midget...
>
> Marco
> 79 Mutant Midget






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:17:12 -0500 (EST)
To: kentmclean@mindspring.com (Kent McLean)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridgets)
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  30 Jan 2004 22:21:38 -0500

"Unions were created to protect the
worker from abusive managemnt. But
over time unions can become abusive
themselves"

Absolutely. Well said.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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That's the one with Susan Sarandon, right? I think that's actually a
rubber bumper MGB. :)
 
-=Chris


<-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Marco
Sent: 1/31/2004 1:14:02 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: The Client 

Watching the movie "The Client" and what a surprise,,, One of the main 
characters is driving a nice little yellow midget. Although it is yellow
sure 
dosent look like the Mutant Midget... 


Marco 
79 Mutant Midget 






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:34:27 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: thistle_3619@yahoo.com (James Gruber), spridget63@comcast.net,
   spridgets-digest@autox.team.net (Spridgets Digest)
Subject: Re: Lowering Kits
  Jan 2004 21:55:31 -0500

Hey...

If I had your set-up, tools and talent..I'd
do it again, too. But I don't, so I won't! :)

I liked your reply to poor Mike who "ain't
goin' this year" 'cause it took me back to
"way back when" I used to have to think
this way!

Every now and then (once, twice a month)
the pilots at International would find themselves returning to our home
airport from their individual charters that day, at
around the same times. Calls were made
to the wives and girlfriends accordingly
as the guys decided to have a brew or
two at the airport pub before heading home.

Frequently, we'd know this a day in advance and I would advise the wife
I
might be late by an hour or so the next
evening if it "looked that way"..she'd bitch.

If it turned out that way, I'd call and advise
I'd be home around 7 or so, instead of
6....and she'd bitch. So it got to a point
I'd not call...and she'd bitch. 

Finally, there was no bitch to bitch. I
became more of a happy camper! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:39:27 -0500 (EST)
To: spritenut@exit109.com (Frank Clarici)
Cc: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Willing of Sprites
  Jan 2004 21:21:14 -0500

"Chanukah Bush"...

Had his cake and ate it, too!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:54:37 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  Jan 2004 07:53:08 -0600

"At least that union worker spoke English"
(let me finish it for you, Larry!:)
and could afford a decent home and
decent provision for wife and kids without
having to work 3-4 jobs!!

Absolutely, Larry...

Another side of the union equation. You
got my off list response to you so you know where I stand on the "which
came
first, chicken or egg" as to whether we
NEED cheap immigrant labor!! :):)

And anyone out there who REALLY believes we do....got news for 'ya....
you've been scammed big time!! :):)

Clue...your President and Congressmen
owe their benefactors BIG TIME on this
one! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Lanier <willjan at earthlink.net>
Subject: Fwd: 1098 vs 1275

>Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 06:53:24 -0600
>To: spridgets-mod@autox.team.net
>From: Lanier <willjan@earthlink.net>
>Subject: 1098 vs 1275
>
>Someone suggested that I consider replacing the 1098 engine with the 
>1275.  I don't have a problem with that other than the additional cost.
>
>How costly would that be?
>What are the advantages of the 1275 over the 1098?
>
>I guess since I am now in the planning stages, this would be the time to 
>plan on whether or not to have a different engine?
>
>Do they both fit the same mounts or would modifications have to be made?
>
>Thanks for your help with the reference book and rivergate question.  I 
>appreciate it.
>
>Will






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From Chris K <ckotting at wideopenwest.com>
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Guy -

No Midget rear end is quite as different as Marco's.  Par to the reason 
it's called "Mutant Midget" is that it features a Fiat 124 Spyder rear 
axle (with disc brakes).

Chris K.

Guy Weller wrote:

>Marco,
>The hand-brake lever itself is the same,  but the linkage at the rear end is
>very different.






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I am in the process of "trying" to install a Monza Exhaust system on my 77 midget.  I can't figure out why they welded the drivers side bracket on an angle and then write in the mounting instructions that you are to bolt it through the roof of the trunk.  I believe that it is impossible.  I contacted the manufacturer and asked them, they were no help. They claim that they have two drawings, one showing the drivers side bracket welded to the forward pipe with the same angle as the passenger side bracket and the other shows it the way it was shipped.  Is there anyone out there who has been through this before and can tell me how to mount this.  Pictures would be greatly appreciated.  

Jason.






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
CC: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>, larryrex@awesomenet.net,
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"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> And anyone out there who REALLY believes we do....got news for 'ya....
> you've been scammed big time!! :):)
>

Then I have been scammed. The average American worker (in my area of Texas)
does not want to work overtime, sweat while he works, or do anything more
than he absolutely has to. The majority of the Hispanics that work with us
(there are some bad ones there to) will do whatever it takes to get the job
done. I used to believe as you Cap'n, till the white workers would quit,
saying, "I can sit at home and collect unemployment and make more than
this". The lazy fuc$ing bastards are more than willing to go onto a
government dole program, than actually WORK for anything and earn it!! The
Hispanic labor doesn't have that option for them, thus, they work, and damn
hard.
I have a white boy that I may need to fire on Monday. He has worked for me
for less than a year. He has missed more than a dozen days at work for car
trouble, as well as days off for some mysterious illness. I have tried to
be understanding, but after a while, it just gets old. He cannot for the
life of him figure out WHY I took him off of a machine operators position,
and gave it to a Hispanic female who is as intelligent as he is, AND at
work EVERY day.
I am going to tell him he is on a 90 day attendance probation. If he can do
it, he can have his job. I bet he will quit. So that is the kind of
ruthless S.O.B. that I am. I actually expect people to show up regularly,
AND WORK, for the job for which I have hired them for.

Brad






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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Monza Exhaust
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:00:34 -0500

I have a Monza Exhaust on my 79  Midget.  Not sure how old it is was installed
by the PO.  Can try to take some pics on Sunday and send them to you.

Marco
79 Mutant Midget






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "LBC" "Spridgets" <@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
CC: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>, <larryrex@awesomenet.net>,
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Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites

"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> And anyone out there who REALLY believes we do....got news for 'ya....
> you've been scammed big time!! :):)
>

Then I have been scammed. The average American worker (in my area of Texas)
does not want to work overtime, sweat while he works, or do anything more
than he absolutely has to. The majority of the Hispanics that work with us
(there are some bad ones there to) will do whatever it takes to get the job
done. I used to believe as you Cap'n, till the white workers would quit,
saying, "I can sit at home and collect unemployment and make more than
this". The lazy fuc$ing bastards are more than willing to go onto a
government dole program, than actually WORK for anything and earn it!! The
Hispanic labor doesn't have that option for them, thus, they work, and damn
hard.
I have a white boy that I may need to fire on Monday. He has worked for me
for less than a year. He has missed more than a dozen days at work for car
trouble, as well as days off for some mysterious illness. I have tried to
be understanding, but after a while, it just gets old. He cannot for the
life of him figure out WHY I took him off of a machine operators position,
and gave it to a Hispanic female who is as intelligent as he is, AND at
work EVERY day.
I am going to tell him he is on a 90 day attendance probation. If he can do
it, he can have his job. I bet he will quit. So that is the kind of
ruthless S.O.B. that I am. I actually expect people to show up regularly,
AND WORK, for the job for which I have hired them for.

Brad


 Damn i feel your pain, however iam sure it's tuff keeping
 good american slave labor, in a sweat shop.
 But i could be wrong?

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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Brad Fornal" <toyman@digitex.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:52:08 -0600
  with any abuse report

hey "So that is the kind of
ruthless S.O.B."

Brad don't be so hard on your self.

I have the same situations here in carpentry, with Mexicans, they will work,
the whites wont period and yes its the UC thing, that just pi$$es me off,
that program was never intended for lazy, it was intended for hard times,
but,,,, hey that's the way it is.

I used to play games with my employees, who would only get a day work in one
week, because of weather or what ever they would want to "bank" the time and
use it on slow times, then the ba$tards starting using their "bank" to get
themselves into Overtime checks B>S  that stopped right there and then the
first time, Now I tell em hey you off, you get uc, if there is work, you
don't PERIOD

-----Original Message-----
From Brad Fornal [mailto:toyman at digitex.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:54 AM
Cc: Robert E. Shlafer; larryrex@awesomenet.net; dlh2001@comcast.net;
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Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites


"Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:

> And anyone out there who REALLY believes we do....got news for 'ya....
> you've been scammed big time!! :):)
>

Then I have been scammed. The average American worker (in my area of Texas)
does not want to work overtime, sweat while he works, or do anything more
than he absolutely has to. The majority of the Hispanics that work with us
(there are some bad ones there to) will do whatever it takes to get the job
done. I used to believe as you Cap'n, till the white workers would quit,
saying, "I can sit at home and collect unemployment and make more than
this". The lazy fuc$ing bastards are more than willing to go onto a
government dole program, than actually WORK for anything and earn it!! The
Hispanic labor doesn't have that option for them, thus, they work, and damn
hard.
I have a white boy that I may need to fire on Monday. He has worked for me
for less than a year. He has missed more than a dozen days at work for car
trouble, as well as days off for some mysterious illness. I have tried to
be understanding, but after a while, it just gets old. He cannot for the
life of him figure out WHY I took him off of a machine operators position,
and gave it to a Hispanic female who is as intelligent as he is, AND at
work EVERY day.
I am going to tell him he is on a 90 day attendance probation. If he can do
it, he can have his job. I bet he will quit. So that is the kind of
ruthless S.O.B. that I am. I actually expect people to show up regularly,
AND WORK, for the job for which I have hired them for.

Brad

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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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larryrex wrote:

>  Damn i feel your pain, however iam sure it's tuff keeping
>  good american slave labor, in a sweat shop.
>  But i could be wrong?

It can be. Just out of curiosity, what do companies in your area pay uneducated
high school dropouts that don't want to work more than 30 hours a week, and THEY
want $12 or more an hour.
This IS a serious question............

Brad






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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 14:01:29 -0500

Don't know what to tell you Brad, but if your company is paying wages so low
that unemployment is better I can't really blame those guys for quitting.  I
work hard for my wages, take pride in doing a good job, and am paid
accordingly.  But I can see the point of the guys you're talking about.  Why
work a job and spend money on the expenses of that job - gas for driving to
work, work clothing, etc. - when you can make *more* money sitting on your
butt.  Here in Michigan the unemployment scale is really, really low, but
maybe in Texas it's higher.

Rick


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> ........ I used to believe as you Cap'n, till the white workers would
quit,
> saying, "I can sit at home and collect unemployment and make more than
> this". The lazy fuc$ing bastards are more than willing to go onto a
> government dole program, than actually WORK for anything and earn
it!!.....
>
> Brad



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To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:21:18 -0500
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That is bull.... 
Unemployment in Indiana pays my employees more than they take home at
$10.00/hr or $11.00/hr.
Sometimes a lot more when you the state doesn't take out the two or three
garnishments out of their check for child support, court actions for
stiffing their landlords, back taxes, etc. etc.  I could go on, but I won't.

Sure, I'd like to pay my guys $50.00/hr.  Care to buy our products and
services for 5X what everyone else charges?  I didn't think so.

Brad, you are exactly right on.  The same thing in Indiana. 

-----Original Message-----

Don't know what to tell you Brad, but if your company is paying wages so low
that unemployment is better I can't really blame those guys for quitting.  






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From Bruce Lowry <egnorant at dctexas.net>
To: Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net>
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
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> It can be. Just out of curiosity, what do companies in your area pay uneducated
> high school dropouts that don't want to work more than 30 hours a week, and THEY
> want $12 or more an hour.
> This IS a serious question............
>

    Brad, My current job fills that bill almost exactly. I am not uneducated and
this is not my only source of income.
I deliver pizza part time and make 15.00 to 20.00 per hour. I also see some other
drivers who are
clueless slackers that don't try. I have tried to explain how working smart AND hard
will get them more money and
satisfaction, but too many of them cannot understand why they are actually getting
what they deserve.
Bruce (TX)






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "LBC" "Spridgets" <@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
CC: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites

larryrex wrote:

>  Damn i feel your pain, however iam sure it's tuff keeping
>  good american slave labor, in a sweat shop.
>  But i could be wrong?

It can be. Just out of curiosity, what do companies in your area pay uneducated
high school dropouts that don't want to work more than 30 hours a week, and THEY
want $12 or more an hour.
This IS a serious question............

Brad

  To answer your question a general mindset is needed first.
 History tells us we were defeated at the Alamo.
 Sam Houston kicked ass and took names at San Jacinto where
 Gen Santa Anna fled the battle and was later captured.
 During his captured he was said to state:
 Mexico will regain Texas!! Now by all means they are damn sure
 doing just that. This act even a blind person can see.
 Regaining Texas one wetback at a time and never fire shot.
 Hire a Tex/Mex and save the day Hire a wetback and remeber
 what the fight was for.

 I live 30 miles away from the Tex/Mex border. Here i see
 Mexicans work very very cheap. They come here, alot of them for
 work, ranchers hire them. Sheep need to be sheared twice a yr.
 Thats only one task they do here, think how much wool would be
 without the cheap labor.
 They come over here, work live like dogs, save every last penny
 go back home and live like kings. Some do and others they
 come across the border every damn day. Ask your self for what?

 Simple (dont forget a child) they came over long enough to have
 a child born here. They get a po box, Food stamps, medicade
 and some other hand out in the way of a gov. ck.
 They live in Mexico, just come over to pickup the ck at the po box,
 Once the child has reached the 5th grade in Mexico thats it.
 No more schooling. Thats when they start coming to Texas 
 everyday drop the child off in school.
 Pickup the mail-money-food, thanks to your tax dollars.

 How much does that school teacher make per yr?
 About 20g  Oh yeah and that child cant speak english.
 The wetbacks will work here in the fields all day, for
 around 20.00 over in Mexico they only make 15.00 per week.

 White boys here make as much as they can, most of them are
 sons of local ranchers. (rich kids)

 See a crime is this anywhere?

 There's no shame in my game, iam a Union Electrician, thats
 when i work for a company other than working for myself, which
 i find very rewarding.

 Brad

ok here's your answer- nobody that works 30 hrs or less is a full time
 employee therefore the sate saids you can pay em what ever you want.

  Thats THE LAW

 Larry Rex



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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:20:14 -0500

It's not bull.  Why work for $10 an hour when you can make more than that in
unemployment?  If Indiana and Texas are paying more than that in
unemployment compensation then shame on them.  They are encouraging people
to go on the dole.

In Michigan the maximum unemployment benefit is $9.05 per hour ($362 per
week), and you have to have been making $17 an hour or more in your last job
to qualify to get it.  Unemployment compensation is paid here on a sliding
scale based on the wages you earned in the last 18 months.  Example - a guy
making $10 an hour that lost his job would get $213 (plus $6 for each
dependent) per week.  This is considerably less than he was making at his
job and encourages him to keep his job.  I couldn't live on the unemployment
compensation available here so I work hard at keeping my job.

Maybe the states of Indiana and Texas need to rethink their position on
unemployment compensation.

Rick

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Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites


> That is bull....
> Unemployment in Indiana pays my employees more than they take home at
> $10.00/hr or $11.00/hr.
> Sometimes a lot more when you the state doesn't take out the two or three
> garnishments out of their check for child support, court actions for
> stiffing their landlords, back taxes, etc. etc.  I could go on, but I
won't.
>
> Sure, I'd like to pay my guys $50.00/hr.  Care to buy our products and
> services for 5X what everyone else charges?  I didn't think so.
>
> Brad, you are exactly right on.  The same thing in Indiana.



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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
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Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites

 Indiana ? Nice state great pay scale for union electricians
 last i heard it was around 40 per hr

That is bull.... 
Unemployment in Indiana pays my employees more than they take home at
$10.00/hr or $11.00/hr.
Sometimes a lot more when you the state doesn't take out the two or three
garnishments out of their check for child support, court actions for
stiffing their landlords, back taxes, etc. etc.  I could go on, but I won't.

Sure, I'd like to pay my guys $50.00/hr.  Care to buy our products and
services for 5X what everyone else charges?  I didn't think so.

Brad, you are exactly right on.  The same thing in Indiana. 

-----Original Message-----

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that unemployment is better I can't really blame those guys for quitting.  


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I'll take a stab at that.

Self respect? Pride? Ambition? To save for an lbc?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/

Rick Fisk wrote:

> It's not bull.  Why work for $10 an hour when you can make more than that in
> unemployment?  






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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:01:05 -0500 (EST)
To: abcoz@hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Cc: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal), spritenut@exit109.com (Frank
  Clarici),
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Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  2004 19:51:02 -0500

Boy...

I wish I could say I disagree with you but
honestly, I don't. I love this place and
most especially what it was when I grew
up in it.

Over the last 30 years I've seen the airline
biz go to hell. I have seen uncontrolled
immigration erode wages for the average
worker (and do it's share in generally
dumbing down the country as well I am afraid), this money now shifted to
the
stockholder/owners. CEO pay and benefits are ridiculous when compared
to average worker pay...just out of sight.

I could go on and on but I'm not going to
'cause quite frankly, it's depressing and
you've pretty much said it all anyway,
Bud.

In NYC, "social promotion" is alive and
well, 75% of students failing their math
and English exams, grades 3-8 yet, 95%
of them graduated to the next grade!!!!

Of course, as the population generally
dumbs down, they as a group become
much more easily manipulated by 
government and politicians and thus,
more easily "controllable".

IMHO, the USA is slowly going "3rd
world". Will it "turn around"?? I dunno
and quite frankly, I'm on the downside
anyway and could leave involuntarily
leave this reality at any time.

I'm glad I grew up when I did, during what
I consider to be this country's best times,
at least for kids. Wouldn't wanna be a kid
today, for anything. I don't envy today's
kids one little bit. The history they are
taught today is mostly "PC", having little
to do with what I was presented with as
this country's history, back when I grew
up.

"Saving Private Ryan"? Who cares!!

Well....I do and I always will.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
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That is outdated ideology, in our new, fast growing, "hands out for freebies"
society...........

type79@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> I'll take a stab at that.
>
> Self respect? Pride? Ambition? To save for an lbc?
>
> jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
> http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/
>
> Rick Fisk wrote:
>
> > It's not bull.  Why work for $10 an hour when you can make more than that in
> > unemployment?






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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:14:11 -0500 (EST)
To: type79@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: NLBC - Unions
  -0500

unions will defend any member regardless
of their culpability.

So will managment, American being a
prime example, Jay.

Many years ago, a pilot was fired for
"turning around and coming back" in
circumstances of freezing rain, citing
unsafe flying conditions.

His bosses (right up to Eagle's CEO) fired
him. He took them to court with the help
of the union. As his professional behaviour was in accordance with gov't
Federal Air Regs. and his boss' orders
to "go back out" (or be terminated)
were in violation of same,
the pilot won a multi-million dollar judgement against the firm.

Eagle's CEO "retaliated" by making a 
public statement to the effect the pilot
should have been fired anyway, as he
had lied initially on his employment
application, in that he had previously
used drugs prior to applying to AA and
did not so state on his application.

Well, this was true. Only one problem.
The "offense" had occurred prior to
the pilot turning 18. This information
was contained in a legally "sealed
record". Of course, now the pilot's
professional reputation was ruined.

The pilot sued again accordingly, and
again, won a judgement against AA
(AE, actually) for again, millions, against
AE and the government office that had
released this info.

Guess what. That CEO who cost his
company a fortune through his errors...
he remained!!!! He was CEO of AE the
day I retired! :):)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:19:20 -0500 (EST)
To: soavero@yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Cc: PAsgeirsson@att.net (PAsgeirsson), type79@ix.netcom.com,
   spridgets@autox.team.net (Spridget List)
Subject: Re: Fed Reserve (Re: Willing of Sprites
  16:32:07 -0800 (PST)

Well, Ron...

You should know about the Federal
Reserve Bank and the families that own
it far better than I, for sure then! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:26:17 -0500 (EST)
To: pythias@pacifier.com (Bill L)
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net (spridgets)
Subject: Re: unions NLBC
  17:11:49 -0800

"It's near and dear to me"

All that you day is true, Bill.

As far as the "old airlines" go, the union
is the only friend a pilot's got when things
don't go as well as intended, most 
assuredly in those circumstances (and
there are many) wherein the airline is
looking for someone to blame in circumstances wherein the crew was
not at fault.

The recent American A-300 crash out
of JFK comes immediately to mind.

There is no way the US airline system
would be as safe as it is today without
unions....no way at all.

Yeah...I know the "downside", too, along
with the downside of certain management
"techniques" which brought the union in,
in the first place.




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:29:50 -0500

Yep, self respect, pride, and ambition are all things that most of your
average uneducated high school drop-out types don't have.  So they would
rather take the higher paying government handout.

What can we do about it?  I dunno.  How about stopping the free handout?
Make 'em work for their unemployment compensation.  Plenty of weeds on the
side of the road that could be trimmed, trash picked up, etc.  No work - no
check.  The bleeding heart liberals will probably have a good time with that
one.  :-)

Just in case any of you are wondering, I've worked full time for almost 40
years and don't plan on stopping any time soon.

Rick

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> That is outdated ideology, in our new, fast growing, "hands out for
freebies"
> society...........
>
> type79@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> > I'll take a stab at that.
> >
> > Self respect? Pride? Ambition? To save for an lbc?
> >
> > jay fishbein



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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:43:09 -0500

I still say Halliburton, Enron, Bechtel, World Com .............that's the way
to go
Dale
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  Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites


  Yep, self respect, pride, and ambition are all things that most of your
  average uneducated high school drop-out types don't have.  So they would
  rather take the higher paying government handout.

  What can we do about it?  I dunno.  How about stopping the free handout?
  Make 'em work for their unemployment compensation.  Plenty of weeds on the
  side of the road that could be trimmed, trash picked up, etc.  No work - no
  check.  The bleeding heart liberals will probably have a good time with
that
  one.  :-)

  Just in case any of you are wondering, I've worked full time for almost 40
  years and don't plan on stopping any time soon.

  Rick

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Brad Fornal" <toyman@digitex.net>
  Cc: <type79@ix.netcom.com>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
  Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites


  > That is outdated ideology, in our new, fast growing, "hands out for
  freebies"
  > society...........
  >
  > type79@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  >
  > > I'll take a stab at that.
  > >
  > > Self respect? Pride? Ambition? To save for an lbc?
  > >
  > > jay fishbein






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From "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <200401312202.i0VM2NtP027193@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Norristown swap meet?
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:00:46 -0500

Frank Clarici wrote:
> You can't win any of the fights so you might as well 
> loose only once.

Just before you get home, call her and say, "Honey, 
I just escaped. Don't pay the ransom."  No fights to 
win or lose.  :-)

Kent
'56 100 BN2






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:08:29 EST
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
To: toyman@digitex.net
CC: PilotRob@webtv.net, larryrex@awesomenet.net, dlh2001@comcast.net,
   spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/31/2004 10:55:10 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
toyman@digitex.net writes:
So that is the kind of
ruthless S.O.B. that I am. I actually expect people to show up regularly,
AND WORK, for the job for which I have hired them for.

Brad
Welcome to the ruthless SOB club Brad...we should start a list.

Only takes a few weeks as a manager of other workers to change most folks 
into the RSOBs we have become.

I was known at my last job as the Ogre, because I expected folks to show up 
and do their job, just like I did.


Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:11:14 EST
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
To: larryrex@awesomenet.net, Spridgets@awesomenet.net,
   spridgets@autox.team.net
CC: PilotRob@webtv.net, dlh2001@comcast.net

In a message dated 1/31/2004 11:26:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
larryrex@awesomenet.net writes:
Damn i feel your pain, however iam sure it's tuff keeping
good american slave labor, in a sweat shop.
But i could be wrong?
Hey now, I belive if you check, Brad worked his way up through the ranks at 
that sweat shop.  He was one of those slaves, as all of us who Work for a 
living, and thus Sweat are.
What company do you cheat Larry?

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


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second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:20:45 EST
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
To: refisk@chartermi.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/31/2004 2:21:13 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
refisk@chartermi.net writes:
Maybe the states of Indiana and Texas need to rethink their position on
unemployment compensation.

Rick
You miss the point Rick.  These folks would rather stay home for less money 
as long as they don't have to work.  It's called total lack of ambition...

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <11a.2dcb21ad.2d4da05d@aol.com>
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:31:52 -0500

But Robert, - that's not what Brad said.  I fully understand the problem with
the lack of ambition.  But Brad said his workers could stay home, collect
unemployment, and make MORE money than they did when they worked.  Can't blame
'em for that.  Another lister from Indiana (don't remember the name - sorry)
said the same thing was true in his state.  That's just not right - those two
states are encouraging people to not work.

Rick

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: RBHouston@aol.com
  To: refisk@chartermi.net ; spridgets@autox.team.net
  Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:20 PM
  Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites


  In a message dated 1/31/2004 2:21:13 PM Mountain Standard Time,
refisk@chartermi.net writes:
    Maybe the states of Indiana and Texas need to rethink their position on
    unemployment compensation.

    Rick
  You miss the point Rick.  These folks would rather stay home for less money
as long as they don't have to work.  It's called total lack of ambition...

  Robert B. Houston
  '73 Midget...and others


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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:39:54 EST
Subject: Re: NLBC - Unions
To: PilotRob@webtv.net, type79@ix.netcom.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/31/2004 3:15:06 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
PilotRob@webtv.net writes:
unions will defend any member regardless
of their culpability.

So will managment, American being a
prime example, Jay.
I beg to differ Captin...The companies I've worked for have made it clear 
that if I screw up...like sexually harass one of the clerks...I'm on my own and 
unemployed...makes work a lot less interesting.

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
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   spridgets@autox.team.net, PilotRob@webtv.net, dlh2001@comcast.net
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RBHouston@aol.com wrote:

> Hey now, I belive if you check, Brad worked his way up through the ranks at
> that sweat shop.  He was one of those slaves, as all of us who Work for a
> living, and thus Sweat are.
> What company do you cheat Larry?

You are correct Robert, thank you for mentioning it.
I started on the assembly line in 78, and in 80 moved out to the mills to become a
saw operator. I soon moved up to lift truck driver, and on to assistant area
supervisor. By 83 I was running my own (one of four) milling area with 15 employees
working directly under me. In 90 I had shown enough initiative to be the assistant
milling superintendent. This put almost 50 employees reporting to me and my boss.
When my boss was moved to the front office to do purchasing, I was raised to the
level of mill superintendent. I was, and still am, a no nonsense kind of guy, when
it comes to work. I don't mind a bit of goofing and grab assing, just make sure the
job gets done. I was asked to move into the office because of my up front, honest,
blunt attitude. I have developed relationships with vendors that have kept material
coming to the shop, even when bankruptcy reared its head. I KNEW that they would
get paid, and I didn't blow smoke up their ass about they may have to wait for a
check. They trusted me enough that they kept materials coming through the door.
They still tell me that if it were not for me, they would have told my company to
stuff it a long time ago. I was asked to move out to the mills as super again, as
there didn't seem to be the leadership that they liked (lots of late days and
weekend working). I went back out, told the employees that they knew what I
expected, and if they wanted to have some time with their families again, get off
the stick and get to work. My approach is, if you are doing your job, I won't
bother you, but if you are goofing off, I will be there to find out why. I
eliminated overtime, in a dept. that was working over 60 hours a week, in 7 days.
It wasn't that they were overworked, they just were not expected to work. If you
don't believe me, don't ask your children to do their homework, and see how fast it
gets done, if at all. I now work as mill super, and purchasing agent, and there is
not ONE job out on the floor that I personally won't do. Including getting inside a
sawdust cyclone to unblock it if necessary. THIS is why I don't cotton to lazy
bastards. I worked to get where I am, and if someone wants to join me, get off your
lazy ass.
I don't make a fortune, those that have visited my home know it is nothing special
or grand. I have only 3 blocks to drive to get to work each day, I like that, ALOT.
I have had headhunters call me and offer me jobs in Dallas and Ft. Worth, but those
would cut into family and LBC time. I like what I do, and I have no debt because of
hard work. No amount of money can replace that..........

Brad






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:44:39 EST
Subject: Re: NLBC - Unions
To: PilotRob@webtv.net, type79@ix.netcom.com
CC: spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/31/2004 3:15:06 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
PilotRob@webtv.net writes:
He took them to court with the help
of the union
The teamsters always stood behind Jackie Presser too....

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


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second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:46:12 EST
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
To: refisk@chartermi.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/31/2004 3:30:52 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
refisk@chartermi.net writes:
How about stopping the free handout?
Make 'em work for their unemployment compensation.  Plenty of weeds on the
side of the road that could be trimmed, trash picked up, etc.  No work - no
check.  The bleeding heart liberals will probably have a good time with that
one.  :-)
.

Here Here!!!I'd vote for RICK!!!!

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


You know what's interesting about Washington? It's the kind of place where 
second-guessing has become second nature.George W. Bush, Speech on May 17, 2002






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From Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley at earthlink.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites

Could the handful of you involved in this thread please take it off list?  It's gone way past NLBC.

 - Kendel in Tucson






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From "bill b." <w_burrell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: unions NLBC
To: spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>

RE:
the airline is
> looking for someone to blame in circumstances
> wherein the crew was
> not at fault.
> Cap'n. Bob 
>      '60 :{)

Yup. Substitute Air Force for airline and controller
for crew and I see the problem.

I always hated it when they did that.

cheers, bill b.
69 Sprite

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:54:02 -0500 (EST)
To: dalep1@earthlink.net (Dale Puffenberger)
Cc: refisk@chartermi.net (Rick Fisk), spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:43:09 -0500

"What can we do about it?"

Emphasis on priorities insofar as kids
go depends upon adults within the kid's
reality.

Education and motivation begin at home
with the parents. And religion or God can
play a part in this as well.

Then they go to school wherein teachers
continue the process in cooperation with
the parents, church and the "extended family" of adults the kids
generally meet and see in their little worlds as they grow up.

This worked very well during my day, even with this system's
imperfections.

Unfortunately, this kind of cooperation
between adults to properly bring up kids
no longer exists to the extent it once did.

Ethics, morals, discipline have all gone
by the wayside to one extent or another
to be replaced by....ignorance and downright stupidity...on the part of
(some)
adults!! 

To be fair, both parents generally
have to work today to provide a decent
standard of living, right? So one or the
other isn't around most of the time, the
way it used to be.

Not the current kids fault, for sure. They
don't know any better. They depend upon
adults to guide them. 'nough said?!

And NO...it's not this simple. There's a
lot more to it, including computers that
bring the world into that of kid's without
adult supervision. And there is more,
obviously, including NYC's politically correct "social promotion"
program along
with their thought that the answer to 
their huge student flunk rate is simply
to lower the passing score from 65% to
55%. No kidding! This is how stupid
adults (in charge of our kids education)
have truly become!!




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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From RBHouston at aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:57:09 EST
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
To: kmmccarley@earthlink.net, spridgets@autox.team.net

In a message dated 1/31/2004 5:47:46 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
kmmccarley@earthlink.net writes:
Could the handful of you involved in this thread please take it off list?  
It's gone way past NLBC.

- Kendel in Tucson
That does it, I'm not voting for Kendal.  His precious Saturday evening time 
spent dozing in front of the computer is being wasted!

OK Kendal, should I run a winter thermosat made by a union man or a china man?

Robert B. Houston
'73 Midget...and others


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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:04:33 -0500 (EST)
To: RBHouston@aol.com
Cc: toyman@digitex.net, larryrex@awesomenet.net, dlh2001@comcast.net,
   spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  EST

"So that is the kind of ruthless SOB I am".

No you're not. YOU are not the problem,
Brad. Either am I, who was a unionized
employee for years.

You are personalizing this. Try not to, to
the extent you are. Back off a bit and
try to be more objective.

There are lousy workers and lousy bosses, managers, union or not. And
there are good ones of each category,
union or not.

Unions (like anything else) have an
upside and a downside. We all know
this. Do they do a lot of good? Yes.
Do they (like management) sometimes
get out of hand and do bad? Yes.

My point is....which came first? Why
a union in the first place? How did it
get started? Where did it come from?
Why? 




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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No

Kendel McCarley wrote:

> Could the handful of you involved in this thread please take it off list?
jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
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From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
To: "Kendel McCarley" <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:34:35 -0600
  with any abuse report

set up a NLBC fiter, and it wont bother you no more


-----Original Message-----
From Kendel McCarley [mailto:kmmccarley at earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:47 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites


Could the handful of you involved in this thread please take it off list?
It's gone way past NLBC.

 - Kendel in Tucson






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From "Michael Graziano" <mgraziano at mindspring.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: I have brakes...
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:34:46 -0600
Organization: Organic Lighting Technologies, LLC
Thread-Index: AcPoY5L5cDbPL3nbQhahJytbfSKuyA==

I finally have brakes.  A big thank you to Chuck, who emailed me on the best
way to adjust them back in Jan of 2002, and to Frank C who has come to my
rescue via phone yet again.  

 

Later,

 

Mike






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From PilotRob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:47:23 -0500 (EST)
To: toyman@digitex.net (Brad Fornal)
Cc: RBHouston@aol.com, larryrex@awesomenet.net, Spridgets@awesomenet.net,
   spridgets@autox.team.net, dlh2001@comcast.net
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
  2004 18:41:55 -0600

Brad...

I admire and respect you. You sound
a lot like me in terms of ambition,
priorities, and starting from the bottom
to work your way up!! :):)

We need more like you and less of the
others you have described!!!

The system is fu-ked up. It ain't you or
me, or anyone like us!! :)




Cap'n. Bob 
     '60 :{)






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To: "Kendel McCarley" <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:12:53 -0600
  with any abuse report

wasnt sarcasim, sorry you perceived it that way, really. It was a
suggestion, along the way we have arrived at  "NLBC" so that folks that
don't want to read drivel don't have to, me, well I read it all, these are
my friends, and if they are talking about something I like to listen,
contribute, or just plain erase it, if I don't want to think about it. Its
easy really.

-----Original Message-----
From Kendel McCarley [mailto:kmmccarley at earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:40 PM
To: willy@thompsoncarpentry.com
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites



I don't know how, but that's okay.  I've already unsubscribed.
Unfortunately, a handful of "personalities" can dominate an email list.
Many quality list members will just give up and drop off without a word
said.  I said a polite word and got sarcasm in response.  I don't need any
of this.

Thanks anyway.


-----Original Message-----
From "Wm. Thompson" <willy at thompsoncarpentry.com>
Sent: Jan 31, 2004 6:34 PM
To: Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: NLBC-Willing of Sprites


set up a NLBC fiter, and it wont bother you no more


-----Original Message-----
From Kendel McCarley [mailto:kmmccarley at earthlink.net]
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Could the handful of you involved in this thread please take it off list?
It's gone way past NLBC.

 - Kendel in Tucson






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From Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
To: spridgets@autox.team.net

> Kendel McCarley wrote:
> 
> > Could the handful of you involved in this thread
> please take it off list?
>

 Don't do it guys!  There is some really good
philosophies being discussed here.  I'm enjoying it..

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From Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fed Reserve (Re: Willing of Sprites
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net>
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--- "Robert E. Shlafer" <PilotRob@webtv.net> wrote:
> Well, Ron...
> 
> You should know about the Federal
> Reserve Bank and the families that own
> it far better than I, for sure then! :)

Not I, but there's someone lurking, I think...

Excellent essays, btw.

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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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Lanier wrote:

>> How costly would that be?
>> What are the advantages of the 1275 over the 1098?

good running used 1275s can be had for a couple hundred bucks.
Sometimes it's worth $200 for that rusty parts car if it has a 1275 in it.
Advantages...... Bigger is better ;)
It will bolt right up and even your carbs, generator, distributor, and 
transmission will bolt right on. It even looks the same except the bore 
and crank are a little different.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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Yes, and parts are easier to find, both new and used.


>From: Frank Clarici <spritenut@exit109.com>

>good running used 1275s can be had for a couple hundred bucks.
>Sometimes it's worth $200 for that rusty parts car if it has a 1275 in it.
>Advantages...... Bigger is better ;)
>It will bolt right up and even your carbs, generator, distributor, and 
>transmission will bolt right on. It even looks the same except the bore and 
>crank are a little different.

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From Frank Clarici <spritenut at exit109.com>
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type79@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> Self respect? Pride? Ambition? To save for an lbc?

My turn to jump in.
EXACTLY Jay.

For years I have been telling my family that we (this country) are 
creating a country full of wimps. Well, it has happened. I see it every 
day. whinners, bitchers, complainers, and lazy ass government drones.
Kids with no respect, no direction, and no ambition.
Teachers can not look cross-eyed at a student with repercussions.
Parents who flat out deny their kid did any wrong wvwn when caught red 
handed.
Like the kid doing donuts in my neighbors front yard around his holly 
tree. He lost a hub cap. The neighbor knows the kid, takes the hub cap 
in hand down to his parents. The kids car is missing a hub cap and full 
of grass and mud. Dad says, "not my boy" and has the balls to ask for 
the hub cap back! Neighbor says well I "won't" be the guy kicking the 
car on my way out of here either.
As for cheap alien labor, the mexicans have hit the constgruction 
industry big time here in Jersey. My sheetrocker, Tom's Drywall, used to 
do nice clean work and his guys all spoke english. 2 years ago, I call 
Tom and I get Jose. Instead of George the finisher, I get Chico.
So now I use Wayne's Drywall. When I call I get Wayne. He speaks 
english, he can answer homeowners questions. And he does a nice job.
Tom wants to know why I don't use him anymore? I told him, but he says 
the mexicans do it cheaper. I said yeah but your prices didn't go down.
Tom bought a new boat, Wayne had a new baby. I would rather feed the 
baby instead of fuel the boat.
I have no problem with legal immigrants as long as they speak English.
If someone can not communicate in their country of residence, that to me 
shows that they are ignorant. I don't deal with ignorant people.
Unions....My bro in law is a crane operator, he get's $60 an hour and 
puts in an 8 hour day. He lifts 1 or 2 pieces of steel a day and each 
takes 20-30 minutes. So he really makes $480 for 1 hour of work.
Meanwhile he sells bacon and egg sandwiches out of the crane to the rest 
of the crew for extra money on somebody elses time. And he swears he is 
worth it.
My own brother is an SWD with the DOC, and he talks in ABCs.
He knows exactly what the state owes him at any given moment. But in 
reality, he turned into a State Worker Drone. He used to do stuff around 
his place and on his cars, not now, he turned into a push it aside or to 
somebody else type of guy. He lost his common sense. But in his eye, the 
State of New Jersey would crumble if he ever left his job. He even knows 
the exact date of his retirement in 2013.
For me, maybe I'm jealous, sure $500 an hour and a known retirment date 
would be nice but meanwhile I will freeze my nads off in the winter and 
sweat them off in the summer. I will get dirty and tired, I will try a 
new approach or tackle a project I have no clue about.

Self respect, Pride, Ambition, To save for a new Jaguar!
That IS what it's all about.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






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From "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>
To: "Bob Van Kirk" <racerbob70@yahoo.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:40:02 -0500

I have a delete button and know how to use it, so I don't really mind.

But, AIN'T ANYBODY WORKIN' ON THEIR LBCs???????

Man, we do need some spring here, so we can drive 'em and break 'em.  !! 

Geoff Branch 
'74 Meejit "Yellow Peril"
'72 Innocenti 1300 Mini


----- Original Message ----- 
From "Bob Van Kirk" <racerbob70 at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites


> > Kendel McCarley wrote:
> > 
> > > Could the handful of you involved in this thread
> > please take it off list?
> >
> 
>  Don't do it guys!  There is some really good
> philosophies being discussed here.  I'm enjoying it..






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From "larryrex" <larryrex at awesomenet.net>
To: "LBC" "Spridgets" <@awesomenet.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: ebay seller sends a note

 L@@K @ this note from an ebay seller, what a great guy!!

  Dear Larry,

Thanks for the fast payment.  The parts will be sent via priority mail to your PO box address on Monday.  I will leave favorable feedback and hope you do the same.

  You may not be interested but I've had these parts since 1978 when I bought a 1971 MG Midget that had been taken apart to be turned into an SCCA race car.  I finished the job and have raced the car ever since.  Most of the stock parts were sold over the years but I still had these.  I don't know if you will use them on a car you are restoring but its nice to think they will be used on another car.  Anyway, I hope they are useful to you.

Regards,
Andrew Williams  
 
 

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From "wolfbj" <wolfbj at prodigy.net>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Tonneau Question
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:09:48 -0500

Happy New Year!!

While looking through ebay tonight I notice a cover (item 2457564070) that has
snaps that hold the cover to the doors. There are instructions that read if
snaps on the door are desired they may be added by......... The ad says it is
for a 70. I was intrigued because my 71 has the snaps installed in the doors.
My 72 does not. Looking through my OS&M, I see no mention of these snaps,
however the pictures of the Australian assembled Midget appear to show snaps
on the doors. Were these snaps ever installed by the factory, or is this a PO
thing. If it is a PO thing, why did AMCO sell covers with snaps installed?

Which leads to another question - Horler says that the earlier hoods had a
tenax fastener to attach the hood just behind the door.  Interesting also
because my 71 has the tenax fastener not the velcro, the 72 has the velcro.

Brent






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Subject: Re: NLBC-Willing of Sprites

RBHouston@aol.com wrote:

> Hey now, I belive if you check, Brad worked his way up through the ranks at
> that sweat shop.  He was one of those slaves, as all of us who Work for a
> living, and thus Sweat are.
> What company do you cheat Larry?


 Uncle Sam any way i can.
 also self employed when not working out of local 60
 Brad is a good person and i didnt mean any different.
 like i said i feel his pain.

 Larry 





You are correct Robert, thank you for mentioning it.
I started on the assembly line in 78, and in 80 moved out to the mills to become a
saw operator. I soon moved up to lift truck driver, and on to assistant area
supervisor. By 83 I was running my own (one of four) milling area with 15 employees
working directly under me. In 90 I had shown enough initiative to be the assistant
milling superintendent. This put almost 50 employees reporting to me and my boss.
When my boss was moved to the front office to do purchasing, I was raised to the
level of mill superintendent. I was, and still am, a no nonsense kind of guy, when
it comes to work. I don't mind a bit of goofing and grab assing, just make sure the
job gets done. I was asked to move into the office because of my up front, honest,
blunt attitude. I have developed relationships with vendors that have kept material
coming to the shop, even when bankruptcy reared its head. I KNEW that they would
get paid, and I didn't blow smoke up their ass about they may have to wait for a
check. They trusted me enough that they kept materials coming through the door.
They still tell me that if it were not for me, they would have told my company to
stuff it a long time ago. I was asked to move out to the mills as super again, as
there didn't seem to be the leadership that they liked (lots of late days and
weekend working). I went back out, told the employees that they knew what I
expected, and if they wanted to have some time with their families again, get off
the stick and get to work. My approach is, if you are doing your job, I won't
bother you, but if you are goofing off, I will be there to find out why. I
eliminated overtime, in a dept. that was working over 60 hours a week, in 7 days.
It wasn't that they were overworked, they just were not expected to work. If you
don't believe me, don't ask your children to do their homework, and see how fast it
gets done, if at all. I now work as mill super, and purchasing agent, and there is
not ONE job out on the floor that I personally won't do. Including getting inside a
sawdust cyclone to unblock it if necessary. THIS is why I don't cotton to lazy
bastards. I worked to get where I am, and if someone wants to join me, get off your
lazy ass.
I don't make a fortune, those that have visited my home know it is nothing special
or grand. I have only 3 blocks to drive to get to work each day, I like that, ALOT.
I have had headhunters call me and offer me jobs in Dallas and Ft. Worth, but those
would cut into family and LBC time. I like what I do, and I have no debt because of
hard work. No amount of money can replace that..........

Brad


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wolfbj wrote:


> Which leads to another question - Horler says that the earlier hoods had a
> tenax fastener to attach the hood just behind the door.  Interesting also
> because my 71 has the tenax fastener not the velcro, the 72 has the velcro.

67 was the first and only year for the tenax stud behind the door.
68 on all had velcro. But I personally install that tenax stud and snap 
on every fold down top spridget I restore. It helps keep the top fitting 
snug and it doesn't have the "big eared" look at speed when the velcro 
lets loose.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Back up to too many sprites again.
http://www.exit109.com/~spritenut/






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 31 22:17:27 2004
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Yeah, Frank!

Frank Clarici wrote:

> For years I have been telling my family that we (this country) are 
> creating a country full of wimps. Well, it has happened. I see it 
> every day. whinners, bitchers, complainers, and lazy ass government 
> drones.
> Kids with no respect, no direction, and no ambition.
> Teachers can not look cross-eyed at a student with repercussions.
> Parents who flat out deny their kid did any wrong wvwn when caught red 
> handed.
> <snip>
> Self respect, Pride, Ambition, To save for a new Jaguar!
> That IS what it's all about.






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net Sat Jan 31 22:20:14 2004
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From "Marco" <mardep5 at adelphia.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: "I have Brakes"
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 00:18:33 -0500

Don't want to hear about having brakes.... At least not until I get them
working on the Mutant.

Glad to hear someone making progress


Marco
79 Mutant Midget






From spridgets-owner@autox.team.net  Thu May 18 14:57:08 2006
From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
To: Jay Fishbein <type79@ix.netcom.com>,
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 01:15:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Victoria Rubbish

I've gotten nothing but great service from them.  They're very helpful, and
I haven't gotten any poor quality Asian parts from them. They're certainly
MUCH more helpful than the jerks at Moss.  Maybe it's your attitude?
BZ