From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 2 12:38:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94952587E1A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C082587DEB for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:23:45 -0600 (MDT) t=1443810256; bh=odINLda2l/SQkZK7fMA90NNew5xjuQXJeEJ5mUttOU4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=GAwtGKtmh1Ek6+4JwMJdKTbvDujUPeDtAoavfVhifawTnO2cxy2uH7bSg8/IN6j1yjO3PsNKl/veL2PHPaes5oc8+uO/aqfYyaohwMgaILhMlnjGb9sclp+u5pYsZKdeNzgyUSFrKevaqCGnGoGVLwqJ5BC5p7rC9ByXAkgqs0nY+q7SyQy1xeZSpn7xUNPrnJgLSPBIp3YmysiIOGxfBIiHQ+QyY6VbY2OCJl6DL3X2qoTc+P1H7uO6iavv9KS48FBDLU4R5SlR4rwWPwX6Td/7qnw98jw497q93BJTfps8NLznoI2vgVSpf+brDd7Q1tr8E1fE3LR9EHDQE2hebA== Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2015 18:24:16 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.252] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2015 18:24:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1044.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2015 18:24:16 -0000 bzzJLN7xWcLL_KDG86zCrkJRVKnC.73NHJN3VU3CTT3ZNNywjC5b5BHQi6ESeu.Mztzejkky_G9z QAqWqNqLmoif5rOyZ7FVAP6s5ECDEse6gulRUCDU0V2tcf3KfUtofOWErKyrwxLx5MyKc5En3Tt8 UDm2xx3bCHJq.TB6vbjw.nIeT36nc2KwQzEFU6a3tAGNaSXgVcj46ZiAc3d102QPT71Dj3dpIpQo tO_xyVB3rBcBUyWe6PHhKxiLPGxPWKVk5SbcSTpqLdM50bFgxCFnpMkoVaw_48qp4XdoGulufJj2 sQVEf7hrHa2.rl3cMnfAynQs8kN_UkmAWddyU1SUo3qmnVLKijLghceN8O1m_N6KjHeuguqaBl3j ydQ0MxCot7HamSdJSUFyOdAN0T_RMbHLh.0teyKnKuCKZHa4wjqHRGN.hu3JgvfqV1YcBrvfcqw8 Y7COWoQ-- Received: by 98.138.105.253; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 18:24:15 +0000 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 18:24:15 +0000 (UTC) To: Sprite Yahoo , Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Torque wrench settings 1275 engine From: Walt Swift via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6478525483666462608== boundary="----=_Part_434974_634371955.1443810255686" ------=_Part_434974_634371955.1443810255686 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm reassembling some front end work, looking for the recommended torque wr= ench settings for the nut fastening the chainwheel to the camshaft, and for= the crankshaft pulley nut. =C2=A0Haynes 1500 Midget manual lists these fig= ures as 24 ft-lb (on camshaft) and 150 ft-lbs (on the crankshaft). =C2=A0Do= es anybody know of "correct" figures for the 1275 cc engine? Walt60 Bugeye with fewer leaks. ------=_Part_434974_634371955.1443810255686 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm reassembling some front end work, looking for the recommended torque wrench settings for the nut fastening the chainwheel to the camshaft, and for the crankshaft pulley nut.  Haynes 1500 Midget manual lists these figures as 24 ft-lb (on camshaft) and 150 ft-lbs (on the crankshaft).  Does anybody know of "correct" figures for the 1275 cc engine?

Walt
60 Bugeye with fewer leaks.
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Torque wrench settings 1275 engine From: Walt Swift via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2442081374802798911== boundary="----=_Part_446608_908617289.1443815245364" ------=_Part_446608_908617289.1443815245364 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Think I answered my own question ...from: =C2=A0 http://www.minimania.com/Mini_Torque_Wrench_Settings_597 Their table lists the settings as 60-70 lb-ft for the camshaft nut and 70-8= 0 lb ft for the crankshaft pulley nut. Would appreciate hearing if anybody has different info. =C2=A0The 1500 cc n= umbers appear to be for the triumph engine only. Walt60 Bugeye ... learning more every day. From: "Walt Swift wlswift@yahoo.com [bugeye]" To: Sprite Yahoo ; Spridgets List =20 Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 2:24 PM Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Torque wrench settings 1275 engine =20 =C2=A0 I'm reassembling some front end work, looking for the recommended = torque wrench settings for the nut fastening the chainwheel to the camshaft= , and for the crankshaft pulley nut. =C2=A0Haynes 1500 Midget manual lists = these figures as 24 ft-lb (on camshaft) and 150 ft-lbs (on the crankshaft).= =C2=A0Does anybody know of "correct" figures for the 1275 cc engine? 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Think I answered my own question ...
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Their table lists the settings as 60-70 lb-ft for the camshaft nut= and 70-80 lb ft for the crankshaft pulley nut.

Would appreciate hearing if anybody has different = info.  The 1500 cc numbers appear to be for the triumph engine only.

Walt
60 Bugeye ... learning more every= day.


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Walt
60 Bugeye with fewer leaks.
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------=_Part_446608_908617289.1443815245364-- --===============2442081374802798911== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2442081374802798911==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 13 15:53:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A83F2585043 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:53:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905B02584B46 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 14:34:43 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=h7m/q28FSHBZ5tVnR334h1LCLPizjocARxZ7QvKM3BR01b7xTrWse5iudQiuQRXq; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.82] (helo=9020SFF) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm6Hq-0002sU-Cy for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:35:06 -0400 To: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:35:05 -0700 Importance: Normal Subject: [Spridgets] Appearantly 210's are not just a source of transmissions. From: Richard Ball via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3533107109627396630== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007C_01D105BB.F8A2FF30" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01D105BB.F8A2FF30 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess 210=E2=80=99s aren=E2=80=99t just parts cars for transmissions = any more. http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/09/30/time-capsule-81-datsun-210-= sells-for-nearly-12000-in-las-vegas/?refer=3Dnews Rich Ball =E2=80=9876 Midget Everett, Wa ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01D105BB.F8A2FF30 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I guess 210=E2=80=99s aren=E2=80=99t just parts cars for = transmissions any more.
 
http://blog.he= mmings.com/index.php/2015/09/30/time-capsule-81-datsun-210-sells-for-near= ly-12000-in-las-vegas/?refer=3Dnews
 
Rich Ball
=E2=80=9876 Midget
Everett, Wa
------=_NextPart_000_007C_01D105BB.F8A2FF30-- --===============3533107109627396630== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3533107109627396630==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 13 17:11:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C5025846AC for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:11:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0784D2585081 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:16:24 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=Mc6KQGmlO100hnx5R4LqjluL+sgWeBV6zRf2ktx255V4WJjYD7kxbb/zVgMACkE7; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.82] (helo=9020SFF) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm7sG-0005qe-AA for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:16:48 -0400 To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:16:48 -0700 Importance: Normal Subject: [Spridgets] Slow list off topic question: Tempur-pedic mattress From: Richard Ball via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4783253403964831208== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01D105CA.2DE21920" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01D105CA.2DE21920 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I normally wouldn't ask this but the list is slow and these things = cost more than a lot of Midgets. Does anyone here have any experience with the Temper-pedic adjustable = beds? My wife Susan has been dealing with chronic back pain for years. = We have been to several Doctors and there is no surgical option for her = Which we wouldn=E2=80=99t want anyway) as her problems are muscular. = Our bed is past it=E2=80=99s prime and we have looked at a few different = types to replace it. The normal flat coil type mattresses hurt her back = just to lay on, but the Tempur-pedic adjustable beds seem to provide the = right support so that she can actually lay comfortably. We would love to hear any experience you have good or bad with the = Tempur-pedic adjustable mattresses. They seam way expensive, but if it = worked for Susan it would be worth it. Thanks Rich Ball =E2=80=9876 Midget Everett, WA ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01D105CA.2DE21920 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So=20 I normally wouldn't ask this but the list is slow and these things cost = more=20 than a lot of Midgets.
 
Does=20 anyone here have any experience with the Temper-pedic adjustable = beds?  My=20 wife Susan has been dealing with chronic back pain for years.  We = have been=20 to several Doctors and there is no surgical option for her Which we = wouldn=E2=80=99t=20 want anyway) as her problems are muscular.  Our bed is past = it=E2=80=99s prime and=20 we have looked at a few different types to replace it.  The normal = flat=20 coil type mattresses hurt her back just to lay on, but the Tempur-pedic=20 adjustable beds seem to provide the right support so that she can = actually lay=20 comfortably.
 
We=20 would love to hear any experience you have good or bad with the = Tempur-pedic=20 adjustable mattresses.  They seam way expensive, but if it worked = for Susan=20 it would be worth it.
 
Thanks
 
Rich=20 Ball
=E2=80=9876=20 Midget
Everett,=20 WA
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01D105CA.2DE21920-- --===============4783253403964831208== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4783253403964831208==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 14 18:03:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264AB2585A38 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:03:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from comal.ext.ti.com (comal.ext.ti.com [198.47.26.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E025C25845EF for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dflxv15.itg.ti.com ([128.247.5.124]) by comal.ext.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t9EK7Jw3002365 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:07:20 -0500 Received: from DFLE73.ent.ti.com (dfle73.ent.ti.com [128.247.5.110]) by dflxv15.itg.ti.com (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t9EK7JrV024645 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:07:19 -0500 Received: from DLEE12.ent.ti.com ([fe80::b01c:958e:1aa:d17f]) by DFLE73.ent.ti.com ([fe80::c9be:a3a9:7cd8:c8b3%28]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:07:19 -0500 To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Sleep number bed Thread-Index: AdEGu2mLA5Yw/7OdRZOMOmzkq4QCwQ== Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:07:19 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [157.170.170.90] Subject: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed From: "Fisher, Ed via Spridgets" Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3963528198949368606== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A4D56F779DLEE12entticom_" --_000_67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A4D56F779DLEE12entticom_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you are referring to what is commonly called the 'sleep number' bed then= I can tell you I slept on a top-of-the-line model for 1 year. When you la= y down on it in the show room and they magically pump up the support to cra= dle you it seems like bliss. After a while the bed shows its true colors a= nd there is no adjustment to make up for a lousy sleep surface. There is a= seam down the middle, and, each occupant sleeps in a 'well' unless you cra= nk it up to the highest setting at which point you are sleeping on a brick.= Big money was paid, big money wasted after we sold it for pennies on the = dollar a year from hell later. Just my experience. You can try Craigslist. There are a lot for sale ther= e.... Ed (Dallas, Tx) --_000_67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A4D56F779DLEE12entticom_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

If you are referring to what is commonly called the = ‘sleep number’ bed then I can tell you I slept on a top-of-the-= line model for 1 year.  When you lay down on it in the show room and t= hey magically pump up the support to cradle you it seems like bliss.  After a while the bed shows its true colors and th= ere is no adjustment to make up for a lousy sleep surface.  There is a= seam down the middle, and, each occupant sleeps in a ‘well’ un= less you crank it up to the highest setting at which point you are sleeping on a brick.  Big money was paid, big money wasted af= ter we sold it for pennies on the dollar a year from hell later. 

 

Just my experience.  You can try Craigslist.&nb= sp; There are a lot for sale there….

 

Ed (Dallas, Tx)

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No, I believe= he was writing about the foam bed (Tempur-Pedic).  I have one that we= have had for ~ 10+ years but it is without the adjustable base (i.e.<= /o:p>

we have ours right on the floor!)  If= it was on a frame I would have to have a ladder to get in and out of it.&n= bsp;

 

 

Only problem we have had is after a while you mak= e a dent in the foam where you sleep.  Then it gets real hard to get o= ut of! 

 

 

I have back problems due to a motorcycle ac= cident ~ 40+ years ago and it has helped there.  Since then I have had= 5 surgeries on my shoulders (in a year and a half) and between the pain I = have trying to sleep on my side (on either shoulder) and the back, I was th= inking about something different.

 

 

I am GLAD that Ed spoke= up about the 'sleep number' beds.  Will cross them off my look at lis= t.  ;^)

 

 

Paul (Currently in Sedgwick, Kansas but movi= ng to Dodge City. Jim you out there?  :^)

 

 

 

= If you are referring to what is commonly called the 'sleep number' bed then= I can tell you I slept on a top-of-the-line model for 1 year.  When y= ou lay down on it in the show room and they magically pump up the support t= o cradle you it seems like bliss.  After a while the bed shows its tru= e colors and there is no adjustment to make up for a lousy sleep surface.&n= bsp; There is a seam down the middle, and, each occupant sleeps in a 'well'= unless you crank it up to the highest setting at which point you are sleep= ing on a brick.

Big money was paid, b= ig money wasted after we sold it for pennies on the dollar a year from hell= later. 

 

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Just my experience.  You can try Crai= gslist.  There are a lot for sale there..

 

 

Ed (Dallas= , Tx)

 




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b=tVSLlb2w3m2D3W2Vyhgs25+zX6kB6Q99e7EOFwAEr0Jvez3vm0MbxpUsSGyXNXDhH3 JVPyFq0Ajn3FN0vC2zFASD4zrdKK16At3HXH8kccvuRYqvp+Vxe0STaOwbWMKADr+3Md BVlIsM5Ysxx7ai7/bPMWyukyHVIPWX1BRsiukAuUIJmsw3kC5jmWTpRa66tbBjCtp+zQ T4CFEjg3WWw8autku5rQgaNahLzkYZiV9XUhB/kDN8DmSRuYaLb+aceGrsVUIVqE5zDA o8Uckj675pzgzCrINvF4k9rzIPSUmsYYjyH6Tv0hv0igdJJk+CY+s+BIs0CpL4zV3gDD OF9g== Thu, 15 Oct 2015 06:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.219.4 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 06:06:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <0r6dpiw7po2ugwxbckqpilhh.1444909665642@email.android.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:06:49 -0500 To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed From: David Lieb via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0932845424366074077== --047d7b41410618a93f0522245a62 OTOH, Trish and I have been enjoying our Sleep Number bed for 10 years or so. I agree that they are over-priced, but we are quite comfortable in it. If I look for it, I can find the joint between the two halves which allows for a different inflation level on each side, but it is not intrusive. We originally did not purchase the complete setup with frame, but added the frame later and glad we did. David L --047d7b41410618a93f0522245a62 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OTOH, Trish and I have been enjoying our Sleep Number= bed for 10 years or so. I agree that they are over-priced, but we are quit= e comfortable in it. If I look for it, I can find the joint between the two= halves which allows for a different inflation level on each side, but it i= s not intrusive. We originally did not purchase the complete setup with fra= me, but added the frame later and glad we did.
David L
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Around 200. This car was restored by my father in 2008 roughly. Every inch of the car restored. Has a rebuilt 1275 with a Datsun 5 speed. Also disc brakes. It's white with a red interior. $18,000 Sent from my iPhone ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 15 15:44:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4CE2585D57 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:44:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37CE2585DDD for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:51:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-17v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.241]) by resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id VToF1r0035Clt1L01Ts0xJ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:52:00 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:3c8:100:4900:901f:a4c8:2851:359d] ([IPv6:2601:3c8:100:4900:901f:a4c8:2851:359d]) by resomta-po-17v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id VTrz1r00N4ZJUo601Ts07b; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:52:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:59 -0500 References: <0r6dpiw7po2ugwxbckqpilhh.1444909665642@email.android.com> To: "spridgets@autox.team.net List" s=q20140121; t=1444924320; bh=z3aBWbpteJys1Y2hksWukOF7S+vZX8fN3/g6I/oqWU4=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Mime-Version: Subject:Date:To; b=fMEooFMCQvy7uy+ktK9+aZ4tHyepe38i29boEY9yyZY3BsqlXe0gOzxAegaif9c8k IAlMWGPCNMP9pkbL9FNcnK9gqADhl3I5gD7itGoL7qVI/24duR2i9Ka8YNwUxYaPqL 3gFHQYSpP4dJxYe9Jj2Z6Fxkwrf+/irUoBq1boaFABhcVlDAOByt7dp2UoJBHiL2jU fSBrdi3eP8Xwt08q6Wwe5IT/1ctOpu9mdNoxl92GixqlVkUZfMpdTW7shUxPjKNCqX tFUL+C0kVlgvPkahTMZz+fxX0UYfJG68ISbjCSavLSwxbmEHBrjy+pJ+EzyFQLmCOQ dpXP6QfJaCeoA== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed From: Ewing via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8518819851849454514== --Apple-Mail=_32065F20-FEE1-4F21-9C7E-8D2926E3226F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 I must disagree with Ed, We have had a sleep number bed for over a decade, it's great. = Especially if you and your SO have differing ideas of what is = comfortable. Yes, a King size is made up of two twin sizes with a = "spacer" in the middle but neither of us sleeps on the spacer. Only = real problem is that it is slightly larger than the King size box = springs that we have so it sticks out a little bit. Lester On Oct 15, 2015, at 6:47 AM, tncarnut1 via Spridgets = wrote: > Wow! Thanks for that insight, Ed. They look so good in the = commercials. I've never known anybody who actually had one though. I've = been thinking about getting a new mattress, so this is very good to = know.=20 >=20 > - David Booker >=20 >=20 > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone >=20 >=20 > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Fisher, Ed via Spridgets" =20 > Date: 10/14/2015 3:07 PM (GMT-06:00)=20 > To: spridgets@autox.team.net=20 > Subject: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > If you are referring to what is commonly called the =91sleep number=92 = bed then I can tell you I slept on a top-of-the-line model for 1 year. = When you lay down on it in the show room and they magically pump up the = support to cradle you it seems like bliss. After a while the bed shows = its true colors and there is no adjustment to make up for a lousy sleep = surface. There is a seam down the middle, and, each occupant sleeps in = a =91well=92 unless you crank it up to the highest setting at which = point you are sleeping on a brick. Big money was paid, big money wasted = after we sold it for pennies on the dollar a year from hell later.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Just my experience. You can try Craigslist. There are a lot for sale = there=85. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Ed (Dallas, Tx) >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net --Apple-Mail=_32065F20-FEE1-4F21-9C7E-8D2926E3226F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 I = must disagree with Ed,

We have had a sleep number bed = for over a decade, it's great.  Especially if you and your SO have = differing ideas of what is comfortable.  Yes, a King size is made = up of two twin sizes with a "spacer" in the middle but neither of us = sleeps on the spacer.  Only real problem is that it is slightly = larger than the King size box springs that we have so it sticks out a = little = bit.

Lester


On Oct 15, 2015, at 6:47 AM, tncarnut1 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> = wrote:

=20
Wow! Thanks for that insight, Ed. They look so good in the = commercials. I've never known anybody who actually had one though. I've = been thinking about getting a new mattress, so this is very good to = know. 

- David = Booker


Sent = via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE = smartphone


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From: "Fisher, Ed via Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net> =
Date: 10/14/2015 3:07 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: spridgets@autox.team.net =
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed

 

If you are referring to what is commonly called the = =91sleep number=92 bed then I can tell you I slept on a top-of-the-line = model for 1 year.  When you lay down on it in the show room and = they magically pump up the support to cradle you it seems like bliss.  After a while the bed shows its true colors and = there is no adjustment to make up for a lousy sleep surface.  There = is a seam down the middle, and, each occupant sleeps in a =91well=92 = unless you crank it up to the highest setting at which point you are sleeping on a brick.  Big money was paid, big money wasted = after we sold it for pennies on the dollar a year from hell later. 

 

Just my experience.  You can try = Craigslist.  There are a lot for sale there=85.

 

Ed = (Dallas, Tx)

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= --Apple-Mail=_32065F20-FEE1-4F21-9C7E-8D2926E3226F-- --===============8518819851849454514== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8518819851849454514==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 15 22:10:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597A725865A0 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:10:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFF62585E69 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 16:12:47 -0600 (MDT) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1444947197; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=sTVUCqX5PTPdK2biUV0lb4d4hSo=; b=exmDnTLA94gMy/UI5w34qvqAxmgxW623EkB7QZW0v4RG1ZKSBgkY6XiNJ/AsVah+ gaXun6+yGrw9RjQppiNBjr6i89q6zvTkvEKz8eDIC7g4JTJ1F+ARpDcs/XVIEVEV FOt63rHcoZBbf6m/E8y2dazfK42ASurkwM6a5CVUJWCU0+E/0+h2+mx7UNTi++/d H7XEJWJfR6fb9ETt4VqkBXuw1iwwOQqEMltkteSc9kajpADAjEHxTbZKHom9YFMC B6cyjRzxYMPJmemLzC9VG3PQVBT6S5Iu8hr0fhAiqWg75p/oxESzd6ovmOgBmozC kOx2vHjPO3qqj0rezC66IA==; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=nuWbx65rv+jQ5rRlhVha3A==:117 a=nuWbx65rv+jQ5rRlhVha3A==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=ttu2OZtZVZW9dIni2PQA:9 a=ZjkC2l1QfEgehxzE:21 a=kS5KesCklu90jXY5:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=nYJ34LOrVf-aZ-qQ3OsA:9 a=Wg4iLMEma26duv6R:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=lbcs; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [184.1.150.221] ([184.1.150.221:59194] helo=BillMiller) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id 0B/B1-02986-CF420265; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:13:16 -0400 To: "'Spridgets'" References: <0r6dpiw7po2ugwxbckqpilhh.1444909665642@email.android.com> <4AE245EE-C09C-49C9-800A-5D93B1E92ECF@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:13:15 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHztuWzSNOPXDqpSTJpbQ+jRa6hvgLD840enhGdLHA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed From: Bill Miller - LBCs via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============2201422209859241775== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01D10775.2A060260" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01D10775.2A060260 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My 2 cents worth is I agree with Ed. I have had one for better than five years and still don't really like it. You must set both sides to the same pressure or the higher pressure side person will roll downhill to the lower pressure person side. The "crack in the middle" issue is a known problem and they have sent me numerous things (such as foam toppers that fit under the zippered compartments, bladders that "snap together", etc.) to try to fix this issue, and yes, those help, but they certainly do not fix the issue. The only thing we have found that works is with both people laying on their side of the bed, to adjust to the same "sleep number" (pressure) Then the bed halves are at the same height, the downhill rolling issue is tolerable at this point. But that kinda defeats the independent sleep number item. Obviously, ymmv, that is my opinion. I won't buy another when it is time to replace this one. I'm more comfortable sleeping in my Sprite (required Spridget content) Bill From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ewing via Spridgets Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:52 AM To: spridgets@autox.team.net List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed I must disagree with Ed, We have had a sleep number bed for over a decade, it's great. Especially if you and your SO have differing ideas of what is comfortable. Yes, a King size is made up of two twin sizes with a "spacer" in the middle but neither of us sleeps on the spacer. Only real problem is that it is slightly larger than the King size box springs that we have so it sticks out a little bit. Lester ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01D10775.2A060260 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My 2 cents worth is I agree with Ed.

 

I have had one for better than five years and still don’t = really like it.

You must set both sides to the same pressure or the higher pressure = side person will roll downhill to the lower pressure person = side.

 

The “crack in the middle” issue is a known problem and = they have sent me numerous things (such as foam toppers that fit under = the zippered compartments, bladders that “snap together”, = etc.) to try to  fix this issue, and yes, those help, but they = certainly do not fix the issue.

The only thing we have found that works is with both people laying on = their side of the bed, to adjust to the same “sleep number” = (pressure)  Then the bed halves are at the same height, the = downhill rolling issue is tolerable at this point.  But that kinda = defeats the independent sleep number item.

 

Obviously, ymmv, that is my opinion.  I won’t buy another = when it is time to replace this one.

 I’m more comfortable sleeping in my Sprite (required = Spridget content)

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From:= = Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = Ewing via Spridgets
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:52 = AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net List
Subject: Re: = [Spridgets] Sleep number bed

 

I must = disagree with Ed,

 

We have had a sleep number bed for over a decade, it's = great.  Especially if you and your SO have differing ideas of what = is comfortable.  Yes, a King size is made up of two twin sizes with = a "spacer" in the middle but neither of us sleeps on the = spacer.  Only real problem is that it is slightly larger than the = King size box springs that we have so it sticks out a little = bit.

 

Lester

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_001C_01D10775.2A060260-- --===============2201422209859241775== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2201422209859241775==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 16 12:13:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24122587971 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:13:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [64.8.71.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D3225848DC for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:11:06 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=s0N+pHL8fEWKN7yGD1Dlqw==:117 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=DA-v0VzzAAAA:8 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=AADClCSyv0oA:10 a=_x0bIIVGN0F7vBsn5hYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=ahxObdG-RPP4A7Kb:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 X_CMAE_Category: , , Received: from [10.35.66.4] ([10.35.66.4:35019] helo=md03.wow.cmh.synacor.com) by smtp.knology.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.1.42806 r(Platform:3.6.1.1)) with ESMTP id C1/E6-12646-ECF21265; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:11:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:11:42 -0400 (EDT) To: spridgets Thread-Topic: Overheated Engine Not starting Thread-Index: TVZ6+iNstHCBqzZLRrtOpo87K1Rn1Q== Subject: [Spridgets] Overheated Engine Not starting From: Monty Love via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2780711183296098827== boundary="----=_Part_67887695_1349686893.1445015502090" ------=_Part_67887695_1349686893.1445015502090 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All; I did something really stupid last weekend. I was trying to tune the carburetors and had the engine idling as I worked on them. Everything seemed to be OK. I took it around the block and it was running very rough. I never looked at the temp gauge until I got home. It was very hot! The over flow tank had ruptured and most of the antifreeze had run out. I replaced the over flow tank and refilled the radiator and now the engine will not start. It won't hardly fire at all. I haven't had time this week to diagnose, but was wondering how much damage could I have done to it? This is a brand new engine with very few miles on it. Any thoughts? Thanks, Monty ------=_Part_67887695_1349686893.1445015502090 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All;

<= div>I did something really stupid last weekend.  I was trying to tune = the carburetors and had the engine idling as I worked on them.  Everyt= hing seemed to be OK.  I took it around the block and it was running v= ery rough.  I never looked at the temp gauge until I got home.  I= t was very hot!  The over flow tank had ruptured and most of the antif= reeze had run out.  I replaced the over flow tank and refilled the rad= iator and now the engine will not start.  It won't hardly fire at all.=  I haven't had time this week to diagnose, but was wondering how much= damage could I have done to it?  This is a brand new engine with very= few miles on it.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Monty 
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I've slept in my Sprite just the once, moving house, it wasn't comfor= table=20 but it does have a racing seat.
 
In a message dated 16/10/2015 08:04:59 GMT Daylight Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:

I=E2=80=99m=20 more comfortable sleeping in my Sprite (required Spridget=20 content)

 

Bill=20

--part1_3b44bf.245f83bf.4352b393_boundary-- --===============9092831855214090824== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============9092831855214090824==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 16 19:31:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591042584721 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:31:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587092585AAA for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:12:19 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=L58BJPk/RT66GGAav4NnM1sSSu7Blu9FI453J+dpNfkvJW4SoaWjc0ZU9SY7VnCB; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:thread-index:X-MimeOLE:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.17.90.242] (helo=RichandSusanPC) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnG3F-0005e3-1R for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 21:12:49 -0400 To: Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 18:12:39 -0700 thread-index: AdEIPy9noRfIENfpSa6GboT9CxngMAAOZI0g Subject: [Spridgets] Tempur-pedic mattress From: Richard Ball via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6662697379413809861== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01D1083E.3ED3D680" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01D1083E.3ED3D680 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for the delay, but this got bounced back earlier. Thanks for all the input guys. We are looking at the Tempur-Pedic brand beds for the foam mattress, and the adjustable base (think hospital bed). This seems to be what gave Susan the most comfortable position when lying down. We tried a couple different brands of the memory foam/adjustable base beds in different firmnesses and kept coming back to the Tempur-pedic as the one she could lay the longest on with the least discomfort. We both have similar likes in the firmness area so its helpful that we can remove that difference from the decision. I would prefer and sleep like a rock on a good quality coil spring mattress so it may take me some getting use to sleeping on the adjustable type. A split king would solve this, but it's not practical in our house. George, thanks for the thoughts on acupuncture. We have done that in the past. We currently have been trying a western science take on that which focuses on the musculature. IMS (inter muscular stimulation) uses long acupuncture needles to stimulate tight muscle groups so they can release their tension. This allows the body to heal those areas. This is often called dry needling and is similar to trigger point treatments. Susan has gotten some relief from this which may have uncovered some issues with her sacroiliac joint. It looks like she may go in for injections for that. Again, thanks for all the input on the beds, it helps us make an informed decision. Rich ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01D1083E.3ED3D680 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

 

Sorry for the delay, but this got = bounced back earlier.

 

=

Thanks for all the input = guys.  We are looking at the Tempur-Pedic brand beds for the foam mattress, and = the adjustable base (think hospital bed).  This seems to be what gave = Susan the most comfortable position when lying down.  We tried a couple different brands of the memory foam/adjustable base beds in different firmnesses and kept coming back to the Tempur-pedic as the one she could = lay the longest on with the least discomfort.  We both have similar = likes in the firmness area so its helpful that we can remove that difference from = the decision.  I would prefer and sleep like a rock on a good quality = coil spring mattress so it may take me some getting use to sleeping on the adjustable type.  A split king would solve this, but it’s not = practical in our house.

 

George, thanks for the thoughts on acupuncture.  We have done that in the past.  We currently = have been trying a western science take on that which focuses on the = musculature.  IMS (inter muscular stimulation) uses long acupuncture needles to = stimulate tight muscle groups so they can release their tension.  This allows = the body to heal those areas.  This is often called dry needling and is similar to trigger point treatments.  Susan has gotten some relief = from this which may have uncovered some issues with her sacroiliac = joint.  It looks like she may go in for injections for = that.

 

Again, thanks for all the input on = the beds, it helps us make an informed = decision.

 

Rich

 

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Best place to get is Peter C correct?

Any tips on getting in and out and bleeding the entire system?  Never did it before
Ryan
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Okay, Spridgeteers.... =C2=A0 =C2=A0Announcing the la= test OSHIT adventure... =C2=A0 I need some help finishing up the restoratio= n of my 1968 Midget.=C2=A0 Some of the gang fom the BusterCluster and the H= oly Sprite are lining up to come out to Dodge City April 16th and 17th, 201= 6.=C2=A0 There will be pizza, beer and various other refreshments on hand a= s we finish reassembling the car. Paint will be finished and the car will b= e on its wheels and ready for some TLC.=C2=A0 Read about the Organization o= f Spridget Handymen In Transit (OSHIT) and their pranks below (Thanks to La= rry Miller).

More information will be posted later= but if you want to have a great time playng with a Spridget and swaping li= es with many other spridgeteers now is the time to mark your calendar=C2=A0=

=

--
Cheer= s!!
Jim Johnson


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Looks like I may have to adjust the dates to the 9th and 10th. J= ust found out I have a grandkid getting married on the 16th.... Adjust your= calendar accordingly, please...=C2=A0 Sorry!=C2=A0 I'm always the last= to know these things!

--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
High Plains Yo= uth Hockey
Dodge City Trail of Fame
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology
"= ;Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to=20 hell in such a way that they look forward to the=20 trip."
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=C2=A0
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--001a11c38b906fc6e1052254ad31-- --===============6381896927359892267== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6381896927359892267==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 17 20:53:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F252587D53 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:53:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from pv33p04im-asmtp001.me.com (pv33p04im-asmtp001.me.com [17.143.181.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A6525853D4 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 19:00:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.1.12] (184-155-85-210.cpe.cableone.net [184.155.85.210]) by pv33p04im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Mar 31 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0NWE00BZR5I1TW00@pv33p04im-asmtp001.me.com> for Spridgets@autox.team.net; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 01:01:15 +0000 (GMT) definitions=2015-10-17_14:,, signatures=0 kscore.is_bulkscore=0 kscore.compositescore=1 compositescore=0.9 suspectscore=52 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 kscore.is_spamscore=0 rbsscore=0 spamscore=0 urlsuspectscore=0.9 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510090000 definitions=main-1510180017 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:01:13 -0700 References: To: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wild West OSHIT WW-OSHIT From: Bob Kitterer via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4154382256722785684== boundary=Apple-Mail-BC3A6C18-BE67-44F9-9B2E-A1002C19FE77 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-BC3A6C18-BE67-44F9-9B2E-A1002C19FE77 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's on my calendar to be there. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2013 Miata Pay it Forward Thanks Frank > On Oct 17, 2015, at 1:09 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > Okay, Spridgeteers.... Announcing the latest OSHIT adventure... I nee= d some help finishing up the restoration of my 1968 Midget. Some of the gan= g fom the BusterCluster and the Holy Sprite are lining up to come out to Dod= ge City April 16th and 17th, 2016. There will be pizza, beer and various ot= her refreshments on hand as we finish reassembling the car. Paint will be fi= nished and the car will be on its wheels and ready for some TLC. Read about= the Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit (OSHIT) and their pranks b= elow (Thanks to Larry Miller). >=20 > More information will be posted later but if you want to have a great time= playng with a Spridget and swaping lies with many other spridgeteers now is= the time to mark your calendar=20 >=20 > http://ado13.com/bustercluster.html >=20 > --=20 > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson >=20 >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitte= rer@me.com --Apple-Mail-BC3A6C18-BE67-44F9-9B2E-A1002C19FE77 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's on my calendar to be there.
Bob  Kitterer

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1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in d= isguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite= Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2013 Miata

<= div>Pay it Forward
Thanks Frank


On Oct 17, 2015, a= t 1:09 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Okay, Spridgeteers....    An= nouncing the latest OSHIT adventure...   I need some help finishing up t= he restoration of my 1968 Midget.  Some of the gang fom the BusterClust= er and the Holy Sprite are lining up to come out to Dodge City April 16th an= d 17th, 2016.  There will be pizza, beer and various other refreshments= on hand as we finish reassembling the car. Paint will be finished and the c= ar will be on its wheels and ready for some TLC.  Read about the Organi= zation of Spridget Handymen In Transit (OSHIT) and their pranks below (Thank= s to Larry Miller).

More information will be posted= later but if you want to have a great time playng with a Spridget and swapi= ng lies with many other spridgeteers now is the time to mark your calendar&n= bsp;

http://ado13.com/bustercluster.html

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So the car was converted by a previous owner to disc brakes.  how do I know what size master I should replace it with?  &/8 or 3/4 or?
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74 midget
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On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 11:14 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
So the car was converted by a previous owner to disc brakes. =C2=A0ho= w do I know what size master I should replace it with? =C2=A0&/8 or 3/4= or?
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([2600:1012:b167:9218:3095:14ba:89d6:2b5c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id pc8sm32611066pbc.27.2015.10.18.15.58.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:58:07 -0700 References: <1118869003.4089878.1445192049285.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> To: ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net, Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Master cylinder for bugeye From: daredelvis--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2265514381667108216== boundary=Apple-Mail-E09EAB13-CE67-49B0-A20A-04021A986D89 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-E09EAB13-CE67-49B0-A20A-04021A986D89 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out http://www.gerardsgarage.com to get the info you need. He can help= setup the proper master cylinder. You can't go wrong with Peter C., or Gera= rd. Both have been around a long time and have excellent reputations. Brian=20 > On Oct 18, 2015, at 11:14 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > So the car was converted by a previous owner to disc brakes. how do I kno= w what size master I should replace it with? &/8 or 3/4 or? > Ryan > 60 Bugeye > 74 midget > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/darede= lvis@gmail.com --Apple-Mail-E09EAB13-CE67-49B0-A20A-04021A986D89 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Check out http://www.gerardsgarage.com to get the info you need.= He can help setup the proper master cylinder. You can't go wrong with Peter= C., or Gerard. Both have been around a long time and have excellent reputat= ions.

Brian 



On Oct 18, 2015, at 1= 1:14 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

So the car was converted by a previous owner to disc brakes.=  how do I know what size master I should replace it with?  &/= 8 or 3/4 or?
Ryan
60 Bugeye
74 midget
= --Apple-Mail-E09EAB13-CE67-49B0-A20A-04021A986D89-- --===============2265514381667108216== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2265514381667108216==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 18 21:26:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628C625802E5 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 21:26:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512742584B98 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 17:10:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-17v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.113]) by resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id WnAl1r0022TL4Rh01nAr7p; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 23:10:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([71.230.75.154]) by resomta-ch2-17v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id WnAr1r0013KkZjb01nAr8x; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 23:10:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:10:49 -0400 References: <1118869003.4089878.1445192049285.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> To: spridgets s=q20140121; t=1445209851; bh=Lr6Pink9U9/4XdjwfKiwnywd5aB6SIYRgxeBRhP838g=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject: Message-Id:Date:To; b=AAd+TV2Wc5XLpTQWKojVqy6vjPEll+3TqWdI0EqqWJnEdRajVZey1sZT56sOcP+Yc gUY98EB0nc1VGI4FvIxKWkKLOTcTkR5HbYudd4Cs0hV0XEzc3ahlR+lwCBNDbuLNVh JtEkIkN7dxI0zEGOt8jPainc02GXdOdR6tuNXUKb3aGh+aNjnz9+fPukTk8nnBEEFp ft661vXiT6aCjtSLvIRIT/1gv7Bg9i033ZvTIGP0IUb+ITKq1auZRIoJoSr4q8XA4+ 9AgUdwGBvXS00iM1+7mCd1IM1i2dcMO8Dewub9jsyWzNTqBqRcnB+I+1zOrBGOSKuS 8QYUMRkhFp4WA== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Master cylinder for bugeye From: Ryan via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net 948 bored to 998 balanced with competition clutch as per previous owner Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Is it still the 948 engine and clutch? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 18 22:48:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFBB25803CB for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 22:48:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7E52585113 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 18:41:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20151019004208.QVAK10321.mta31.charter.net@imp09>; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 20:42:08 -0400 Received: from mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.31]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id Woi81r0030h5dSU05oi89R; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 20:42:08 -0400 Received: from impout005 ([68.114.189.20]) by mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.020.01 201-2473-160) with ESMTP id <20151019004208.BGLP19634.mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout005>; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:42:08 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.106] ([71.10.17.119]) by impout005 with charter.net id Woi81r0052a8AQ701oi8vZ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:42:08 -0500 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:117 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Kcv2m5ESDnlMt258P7QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=xe7ahnhlOJL1s7_I9TIA:9 a=BGvZd9NQ0FM1uR4T:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 20:42:08 -0400 References: <1118869003.4089878.1445192049285.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> To: "ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net" Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Master cylinder for bugeye From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2093521476686705346== boundary=Apple-Mail-EDE7187D-64A4-4B5F-B643-C14C7A08EF38 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-EDE7187D-64A4-4B5F-B643-C14C7A08EF38 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Disc brake system used a 3/4" master. Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:14 PM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > So the car was converted by a previous owner to disc brakes. how do I kno= w what size master I should replace it with? &/8 or 3/4 or? > Ryan > 60 Bugeye > 74 midget > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk= @chartermi.net --Apple-Mail-EDE7187D-64A4-4B5F-B643-C14C7A08EF38 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Disc brake system used a 3/4" master.<= br>
Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:14 PM, ryan= .kubanoff--- via Spridgets <s= pridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

So the car was converted by a previous owner to disc brakes.  how do= I know what size master I should replace it with?  &/8 or 3/4 or?<= /div>
Ryan
60 Bugeye
74 midget
= --Apple-Mail-EDE7187D-64A4-4B5F-B643-C14C7A08EF38-- --===============2093521476686705346== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2093521476686705346==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 00:36:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759DB258021C for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:36:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mail-out.wi.net [209.225.111.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15812586CE4 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 22:25:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [209.225.111.199] (helo=wm.wi.net) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo21b-0000lZ-VK for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 23:26:19 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 23:25:43 -0500 To: References: User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.5 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City!! From: dwoerpel--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0655020791333873805== boundary="=_6e89f8985e157df9f2e114c0711e6f9f" --=_6e89f8985e157df9f2e114c0711e6f9f Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's on my calendar! O-boy, this'll be fun! Dave W. '59 :{) '59 MGA 1500 Burlington WI On 2015-10-17 17:46, bmwwxman . via Spridgets wrote: > Looks like I may have to adjust the dates to the 9th and 10th. Just found out I have a grandkid getting married on the 16th.... Adjust your calendar accordingly, please... Sorry! I'm always the last to know these things! > > -- > > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > High Plains Youth Hockey [5] > Dodge City Trail of Fame [6] > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology [7] > > "TACT IS THE ABILITY TO TELL SOMEONE TO GO TO HELL IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY LOOK FORWARD TO THE TRIP." > > WINSTON CHURCHILL > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [1] > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [3] > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel@wi.net [4] Links: ------ [1] http://www.team.net/donate.html [2] [3] http://www.team.net/forums [4] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel@wi.net [5] http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org [6] http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org [7] http://www.EJSSM.org --=_6e89f8985e157df9f2e114c0711e6f9f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's on my calendar!  O-boy, this'll be fun!

Dave W.

'59 :{)

'59 MGA 1500

Burlington WI

 

 

On 2015-10-17 17:46, bmwwxman . via Spridgets wrote:

Looks like I may have to adjust the dates to the 9th and 10th. Just f= ound out I have a grandkid getting married on the 16th.... Adjust your cale= ndar accordingly, please...  Sorry!  I'm always the last to know = these things!
 
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Jim Johnson
High Plains Youth Hockey
Dodge City Trail of Fame
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology
"Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such= a way that they look forward to the trip."
 
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--=_6e89f8985e157df9f2e114c0711e6f9f-- --===============0655020791333873805== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0655020791333873805==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 04:16:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CA025857B5 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 04:16:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED0A258808F for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 04:04:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.104]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Wy5G1r0012Fh1PH01y5G1S; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:05:16 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:186:1:6c44:1030:4223:c434:37a4] ([IPv6:2601:186:1:6c44:1030:4223:c434:37a4]) by resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Wy5F1r0092oGyTK01y5FvK; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:05:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 06:05:15 -0400 References: To: spridgets@autox.team.net s=q20140121; t=1445249116; bh=8Zz2D68k5TRkYCKEILZiOitTUK7BxwD3cPcOL3DITQU=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:To:Message-Id: Mime-Version; b=enjIsfYIAYAO1jdFHPng28WDAMTJHOie1eZnSlM6hzSYM145giv3exvGB3SHstA3A 8yO40TCfPWjtITM39BR18LHM3xJXOEQgkBkFq/eTRIt2A7M4GmaVfxN/LKebqhOPwZ sYk8l6yWM1YZT33pxymbGUmSbzeNa60xiJAcu7ZRUjY49rzJ26JbRDW5RUAAZXIFaj 1dCreHkrzy4H/qQMO4Df0l/tL08SwL6ogL1E8WNLOiY4lJ3bcEJ3+m73zY2imidgT5 VGlkWcUMZSgfRY4/R3DKfT3wc2YZZ2R+hGNRhvPo923Tr4yq9wPPREc/aZ8L99y9+E Ki0X6Rj+3IA7Q== Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: coinsidences From: Kent McLean via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6473216243965986990== --Apple-Mail=_32585542-8C6C-4192-B189-8822C691AB03 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Forwarded from the Big Healey list. Kent McLean =E2=80=9956 100 BN2 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > Subject: [Healeys] coinsidences >=20 > This spring we took a road trip to California from Kansas City. While = headed up the coast thru Big Sur we rounded a corner & spotted a = beautiful yellow bugeye Sprite parked along the side of the highway. The = two occupants were enjoying a picnic & the spectacular view. I = instinctively thought "what a great photo opportunity", but there was = nowhere to pull off & the traffic behind was pressing us on. So, imagine = our surprise when Claudia Hallauer, one of our traveling companions, = spotted the cover of the attached credit card company travel magazine in = the waiting room of her dentist a few months later. What are the odds? > There was no mention of the Sprite anywhere in the magazine.=20 > Anyone know the owner?=20 > Gary Hodson >=20 > URL: = > --Apple-Mail=_32585542-8C6C-4192-B189-8822C691AB03 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Forwarded from the Big Healey list.

Kent McLean
=E2=80=99= 56 100 BN2

Begin forwarded message:

From: warthodson@aol.com
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] = coinsidences

This spring we took a road = trip to California from Kansas City. While headed up the coast thru Big = Sur we rounded a corner & spotted a beautiful yellow bugeye Sprite = parked along the side of the highway. The two occupants were enjoying a = picnic & the spectacular view. I instinctively thought "what a great = photo opportunity", but there was nowhere to pull off & the traffic = behind was pressing us on. So, imagine our surprise when Claudia = Hallauer, one of our traveling companions, spotted the cover of the = attached credit card company travel magazine in the waiting room of her = dentist a few months later. What are the odds?
There was no mention of the Sprite anywhere in = the magazine. Anyone know the owner? 
Gary Hodson

URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20151018/81= 8b9e13/attachment.jpg>

= --Apple-Mail=_32585542-8C6C-4192-B189-8822C691AB03-- --===============6473216243965986990== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6473216243965986990==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 04:40:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1FB2587CDD for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 04:40:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yk0-f172.google.com (mail-yk0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C305025881AD for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 04:19:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ykdz2 with SMTP id z2so52779798ykd.3 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 03:20:22 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:to:from:subject:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type; bh=dLQ6hzPGG2J4n15vFZ3T2MYcQs0INtP+KqB/hxLTvgo=; b=QvnTQmOHLJWsCLI3FBO7sIhGQQ1kw55IcXjCxq3/3SaiaHutrtA9inYkaPNtWW8YJV Ru1g0OGLSEk1yelPKfvbozzR99WodnC0cI16lQ73O1PiSYo4AY42NDH5lkRTH1U6kPc3 dllnhoMwcHuzwRuwApo/yzOx9etu4pmUzMMSO67tY2CugTK+V+2wGAECDI5PQntQweGi cb19S2AmoTVfwLRNL8nUsL+PRRGAUFDt/AIrINng2RpQGN4++Gzu2bgw64C8cMrG6X/X b8zKslAht4rYKzX96LFd48e+bPzWCiyvx5cammVaL3hJ56G7fCzGWSk6kIWjCPgUkX37 9Y7A== Mon, 19 Oct 2015 03:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n-cfwb6br43lgye.mtu.edu (107-213-7-140.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net. [107.213.7.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s62sm25801403ywg.35.2015.10.19.03.20.21 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Oct 2015 03:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 06:20:29 -0400 To: Kent McLean ,spridgets@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: coinsidences From: Tim Collins via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3175487165718268279== boundary="=====================_62419890==.ALT" --=====================_62419890==.ALT Here's another coincidence. I saw that same magazine - in my dentist's office about a month ago. I wanted to take a picture of the cover, but it was too badly scratched up to make a good picture. This magazine must be required reading in a dentist office. Sorry, I don't know the owners of the Sprite. Tim >>There was no mention of the Sprite anywhere in the magazine. >>Anyone know the owner? >>Gary Hodson >> >>URL: >><http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20151018/818b9e13/attachment.jpg> --=====================_62419890==.ALT Here's another coincidence. I saw that same magazine - in my dentist's office about a month ago. I wanted to take a picture of the cover, but it was too badly scratched up to make a good picture. This magazine must be required reading in a dentist office. Sorry, I don't know the owners of the Sprite.
Tim



There was no mention of the Sprite anywhere in the magazine.
Anyone know the owner?
Gary Hodson

URL: < http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20151018/818b9e13/attachment.jpg >
--=====================_62419890==.ALT-- --===============3175487165718268279== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3175487165718268279==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 07:45:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F0B25882CC for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 07:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f53.google.com (mail-qg0-f53.google.com [209.85.192.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1D925881A0 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 06:50:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qgem9 with SMTP id m9so6952271qge.1 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 05:51:12 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8ZlFsv4cJShMwvLmT0Yj16/TWPVp0Ap5rWPB41MDThw=; b=rYr6hDYC3JI9BVp9zqq+29841ysnYBzG+VtS7x+peeeTw/ucRDce1/hkOY8dw2EtE0 FYef05VNVT7dszbRyy+U6XngDtsx40ZDl/ZWaTnPaKWA8nbucSy0RspJYbwAZu/UCMGb LU3HhwPgLqfiWRbnZ9hk/3ZeC1NJ0o+Rc/cQNRBThwlZCC+g0TvswYZ7xrGQOVltDnhH M5o3xYyl+zKxB21Y9+yLT83BaLpBPRB6jZlxFQDCanhgfYCKZz9Sm8J+liW1AYk+Reu3 SNRjQKg5Sf+JyVl1yPhZw9JHzcW4F97/cxhHEILgobVBQepzcQC8OBxEQBUfTXUWURd9 LwKQ== Mon, 19 Oct 2015 05:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.55.144.3 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 05:51:12 -0700 (PDT) References: <5624c3e5.419b810a.a8cea.4440@mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:51:12 -0400 To: Tim Collins Cc: Spridgets , Kent McLean Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: coinsidences From: HealeyRick via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2190162846822115118== --001a1139af2499655e05227499fb Saw on Wikipedia that "Departures" is sent only to holders of an AMEX Platinum card. No wonder it's in all the dentists' offices. And how come they use a British car under the title "All American Summer?" On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Tim Collins via Spridgets < spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: > Here's another coincidence. I saw that same magazine - in my dentist's > office about a month ago. I wanted to take a picture of the cover, but it > was too badly scratched up to make a good picture. This magazine must be > required reading in a dentist office. Sorry, I don't know the owners of the > Sprite. > Tim > > > > > > > --001a1139af2499655e05227499fb Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Saw on Wikipedia that =C2=A0"Departures" is sent= only to holders of an AMEX Platinum card.=C2=A0 No wonder it's in all = the dentists' offices.=C2=A0 And how come they use a British car under = the title "All American Summer?"

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Tim Collins via S= pridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Here's another coincidence. I saw that same magazine - in my dentist= 9;s office about a month ago. I wanted to take a picture of the cover, but it was too badly scratched up to make a good picture. This magazine must be required reading in a dentist office. Sorry, I don't know the owners of the Sprite.
Tim







--001a1139af2499655e05227499fb-- --===============2190162846822115118== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2190162846822115118==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 09:33:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9462587FA7 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 09:33:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E37C25850E9 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:37:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [97.71.75.255] ([97.71.75.255:55602] helo=[192.168.0.10]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id CA/8B-01181-04005265; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 14:37:52 +0000 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 07:38:22 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: coinsidences From: Jon Paschke via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2329308444343649196== boundary="------------090605030402020701000904" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090605030402020701000904 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That is Jack and Fran from here in Tehachapi, I helped them with the car. They spend a lot of time on the coast and are wonderful people. They like geocaching and camping. Jon On 10/19/2015 3:05 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets wrote: > Forwarded from the Big Healey list. > > Kent McLean > ’56 100 BN2 > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> Subject: [Healeys] coinsidences >> >> This spring we took a road trip to California from Kansas City. While >> headed up the coast thru Big Sur we rounded a corner & spotted a >> beautiful yellow bugeye Sprite parked along the side of the highway. >> The two occupants were enjoying a picnic & the spectacular view. I >> instinctively thought "what a great photo opportunity", but there was >> nowhere to pull off & the traffic behind was pressing us on. So, >> imagine our surprise when Claudia Hallauer, one of our traveling >> companions, spotted the cover of the attached credit card company >> travel magazine in the waiting room of her dentist a few months >> later. What are the odds? >> There was no mention of the Sprite anywhere in the magazine. >> Anyone know the owner? >> Gary Hodson >> >> URL: >> > > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jpaschke@bak.rr.com --------------090605030402020701000904 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That is Jack and Fran from here in Tehachapi, I helped them with the car. They spend a lot of time on the coast and are wonderful people. They like geocaching and camping. Jon
On 10/19/2015 3:05 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets wrote:
Forwarded from the Big Healey list.

Kent McLean
’56 100 BN2

Begin forwarded message:

From: warthodson@aol.com
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] coinsidences

This spring we took a road trip to California from Kansas City. While headed up the coast thru Big Sur we rounded a corner & spotted a beautiful yellow bugeye Sprite parked along the side of the highway. The two occupants were enjoying a picnic & the spectacular view. I instinctively thought "what a great photo opportunity", but there was nowhere to pull off & the traffic behind was pressing us on. So, imagine our surprise when Claudia Hallauer, one of our traveling companions, spotted the cover of the attached credit card company travel magazine in the waiting room of her dentist a few months later. What are the odds?
There was no mention of the Sprite anywhere in the magazine. 
Anyone know the owner? 
Gary Hodson

URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/healeys/attachments/20151018/818b9e13/attachment.jpg>



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Thanks Rick, I thought for a moment  'insanity' had entered the list.  For those who doubt, 7/8 = drum; 3/4 = disc.  Yes you can but no you shouldn't.

Cheers,
Martyn

On 10/18/2015 8:42 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote:
Disc brake system used a 3/4" master.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:14 PM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

So the car was converted by a previous owner to disc brakes.  how do I know what size master I should replace it with?  &/8 or 3/4 or?
Ryan
60 Bugeye
74 midget


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--------------080601060101080205080809-- --===============0174701985329767328== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0174701985329767328==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 13:03:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BE52585251 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:03:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mr-smtp1.net.isc.upenn.edu (mr-smtp1.net.isc.upenn.edu [128.91.3.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB7F2585EC1 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:34:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from proxy1.zimbra.upenn.edu (mr-haproxy2.net.isc.upenn.edu [128.91.3.179]) by mr-smtp1.net.isc.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52F7603A1; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cajal.uphs.upenn.edu (node3.uphs.upenn.edu [165.123.243.167]) by mail.med.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AE074A2480; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:34:41 -0400 References: <0r6dpiw7po2ugwxbckqpilhh.1444909665642@email.android.com> <4AE245EE-C09C-49C9-800A-5D93B1E92ECF@comcast.net> <001b01d10796$b117a260$1346e720$@embarqmail.com> To: Bill Miller - LBCs Cc: Spridgets net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed From: Larry Macy via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7605929500686166837== --Apple-Mail=_FCEE7D25-8481-4632-8DA0-397FB6476160 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Our sleep number bed is 93 in winter and 85 in the summer. It is nt = adjustable side to side, but we feel as if we are floating on water. = Which, of course, we are. I have been sleeping on a water bed for 40+ = years. Tried a themarest, but that lasted less than a year and back to = the waterbed. Only ever had one break open and the liner held 99% of the = water. We prefer the 98% waveless, of course. Frames are easy, 4 = 2x112=E2=80=99s and maybe a pedestal. Total, with a digital heater, can = be less than $500 or so, all the way up to a couple thousands if you go = for a fancy from. Our top of the line mattress cost about $500. So if = you ask me, save a few bucks on that airbed and get a water bed. ;-) Larry Coolest hippy in Morrisville ;-) > On Oct 15, 2015, at 18:13 PM, Bill Miller - LBCs via Spridgets = wrote: >=20 > My 2 cents worth is I agree with Ed. >=20 > I have had one for better than five years and still don=E2=80=99t = really like it. > You must set both sides to the same pressure or the higher pressure = side person will roll downhill to the lower pressure person side. >=20 > The =E2=80=9Ccrack in the middle=E2=80=9D issue is a known problem and = they have sent me numerous things (such as foam toppers that fit under = the zippered compartments, bladders that =E2=80=9Csnap together=E2=80=9D, = etc.) to try to fix this issue, and yes, those help, but they certainly = do not fix the issue. > The only thing we have found that works is with both people laying on = their side of the bed, to adjust to the same =E2=80=9Csleep number=E2=80=9D= (pressure) Then the bed halves are at the same height, the downhill = rolling issue is tolerable at this point. But that kinda defeats the = independent sleep number item. >=20 > Obviously, ymmv, that is my opinion. I won=E2=80=99t buy another when = it is time to replace this one. > I=E2=80=99m more comfortable sleeping in my Sprite (required Spridget = content) >=20 > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = Ewing via Spridgets > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:52 AM > To: spridgets@autox.team.net List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed >=20 > I must disagree with Ed, >=20 > We have had a sleep number bed for over a decade, it's great. = Especially if you and your SO have differing ideas of what is = comfortable. Yes, a King size is made up of two twin sizes with a = "spacer" in the middle but neither of us sleeps on the spacer. Only = real problem is that it is slightly larger than the King size box = springs that we have so it sticks out a little bit. >=20 > Lester >=20 >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy@mac.com __ Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy@phillymgclub.com Board Secretary Philadelphia MG Club The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. Dorothy Parker --Apple-Mail=_FCEE7D25-8481-4632-8DA0-397FB6476160 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIVAwUBViUpsuk0YkffprDMAQgFXA//UduWOI1NqTpHn820kZyJXe1fA8JfuLkU Q9Ocaiv+c84KtBxVKf5PlRxek2zdq3goyR4a1uIb8R9E2diVi78auVzVlhwp3l6L wY4pTa+TlH/HhVZEAwPC8eOpaEHzt+2/Fan8+ZzzLPBkxT3SJ0JedeGurPfYMQXB ozSusDZVm04U/8aFv5mhhWSfgkL+O2msrEHOJZ+vOHC1q/C+BcZDdEO0XcNN8MPd MQRLRi/mG9HDpzO1yMqCe7NBW83CM1H813CZMXzQIt/4lR2I8TdBna5AnoEWUUSb 3HexMIqZPmONU+GOYH7CJY/7ubYa7/XeoXrlmaAZeDqcHNoYDq4DDvzGFq0nCl/D XnneATTg4DDd4QlYwQgvVm0Mp39UTZaJXlrIS2Hz+xV1PGjDNBN4PgNdG/d9/8La HkaRA6V7cKI7xqYk0F258SBPJpGGFNlChdi6z5AwbaOrEuqzCCX70HiP4Jpi2XaJ 72aGRExGtfrVDqfljVe6XOCFKE9qqME0TMir7C0fN3jdj+XXAXSsnNmXOlqSKflA Y8vs9C/crO7yKaLPm1yMmcQyKzJNkX9Sn/Xs/4kmLMV7R2CF1WlD/gK2Ou41ywLJ G9XoABJA3BreCGIq/VJOSX3c+i4pXQt/Wf6gHMNEFHLiC2KfIfsH+hacKRQw/tUK /CuKJY1MUKk= =FYLY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_FCEE7D25-8481-4632-8DA0-397FB6476160-- --===============7605929500686166837== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7605929500686166837==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 19 13:52:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE97C2584670 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:52:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mr-smtp2.net.isc.upenn.edu (mr-smtp2.net.isc.upenn.edu [128.91.3.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925A9258550E for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:54:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from proxy2.zimbra.upenn.edu (mr-haproxy2.net.isc.upenn.edu [128.91.3.179]) by mr-smtp2.net.isc.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6378C6011A; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cajal.uphs.upenn.edu (node3.uphs.upenn.edu [165.123.243.167]) by mail.med.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 59638A2019; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:54:43 -0400 References: To: dwoerpel@wi.net Cc: Spridgets net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City!! From: Larry Macy via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4831901728761719123== --Apple-Mail=_6B2A24FC-7342-46D5-BF8E-E1EF81B85B2D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Just added to my Calendar, Now to go home and see what Theresa has on = the same weekend. Not certain, but it is on my calendar!! Larry > On Oct 19, 2015, at 00:25 AM, dwoerpel--- via Spridgets = wrote: >=20 > It's on my calendar! O-boy, this'll be fun! >=20 > Dave W. >=20 > '59 :{) >=20 > '59 MGA 1500 >=20 > Burlington WI >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2015-10-17 17:46, bmwwxman . via Spridgets wrote: >=20 >> Looks like I may have to adjust the dates to the 9th and 10th. Just = found out I have a grandkid getting married on the 16th.... Adjust your = calendar accordingly, please... Sorry! I'm always the last to know = these things! >>=20 >> -- >> Cheers!! >> Jim Johnson >> High Plains Youth Hockey >> Dodge City Trail of Fame >> Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology >>=20 >> "Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that = they look forward to the trip." >>=20 >> Winston Churchill >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >>=20 >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >>=20 >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >>=20 >> Forums: >> http://www.team.net/forums >>=20 >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel@wi.net >=20 >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy@mac.com -- Larry B. 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for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 08:05:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from proxy1.zimbra.upenn.edu (mr-haproxy2.net.isc.upenn.edu [128.91.3.179]) by mr-smtp1.net.isc.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D0560498; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cajal.uphs.upenn.edu (node3.uphs.upenn.edu [165.123.243.167]) by mail.med.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE64CA24D4; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:05:36 -0400 References: <0r6dpiw7po2ugwxbckqpilhh.1444909665642@email.android.com> <4AE245EE-C09C-49C9-800A-5D93B1E92ECF@comcast.net> <001b01d10796$b117a260$1346e720$@embarqmail.com> <19AD7A20-2F92-475F-905C-BFC3DCF7994B@mac.com> <6823B0E8-B20C-440E-B188-AA49BCB1DB8B@chartermi.net> To: Rick Fisk Cc: Spridgets net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed From: Larry Macy via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8315645140145107349== --Apple-Mail=_3E54F8E3-5337-4C1D-AE7E-65B492E5A0D3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I have a wedge pillow. Not as =E2=80=9Ccool=E2=80=9D as an adjustable, = but works the same way. Larry > On Oct 19, 2015, at 16:10 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: >=20 > Same here - water bed since the early 70's. The only thing I wish it = could do now that I'm uh, er, a little older, is raise the head like an = adjustable bed. Two pillows works for that though. Mine is set to 72 = degrees year round. :-) >=20 > Rick >=20 > Sent from my keyboard >=20 >> On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Larry Macy via Spridgets = wrote: >>=20 >> Our sleep number bed is 93 in winter and 85 in the summer. It is nt = adjustable side to side, but we feel as if we are floating on water. = Which, of course, we are. I have been sleeping on a water bed for 40+ = years. Tried a themarest, but that lasted less than a year and back to = the waterbed. Only ever had one break open and the liner held 99% of the = water. We prefer the 98% waveless, of course. Frames are easy, 4 = 2x112=E2=80=99s and maybe a pedestal. Total, with a digital heater, can = be less than $500 or so, all the way up to a couple thousands if you go = for a fancy from. Our top of the line mattress cost about $500. So if = you ask me, save a few bucks on that airbed and get a water bed. ;-) >>=20 >> Larry >> Coolest hippy in Morrisville ;-) >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 18:13 PM, Bill Miller - LBCs via Spridgets = wrote: >>>=20 >>> My 2 cents worth is I agree with Ed. >>>=20 >>> I have had one for better than five years and still don=E2=80=99t = really like it. >>> You must set both sides to the same pressure or the higher pressure = side person will roll downhill to the lower pressure person side. >>>=20 >>> The =E2=80=9Ccrack in the middle=E2=80=9D issue is a known problem = and they have sent me numerous things (such as foam toppers that fit = under the zippered compartments, bladders that =E2=80=9Csnap = together=E2=80=9D, etc.) to try to fix this issue, and yes, those help, = but they certainly do not fix the issue. >>> The only thing we have found that works is with both people laying = on their side of the bed, to adjust to the same =E2=80=9Csleep number=E2=80= =9D (pressure) Then the bed halves are at the same height, the downhill = rolling issue is tolerable at this point. But that kinda defeats the = independent sleep number item. >>>=20 >>> Obviously, ymmv, that is my opinion. I won=E2=80=99t buy another = when it is time to replace this one. >>> I=E2=80=99m more comfortable sleeping in my Sprite (required = Spridget content) >>>=20 >>> Bill >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf = Of Ewing via Spridgets >>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:52 AM >>> To: spridgets@autox.team.net List >>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleep number bed >>>=20 >>> I must disagree with Ed, >>>=20 >>> We have had a sleep number bed for over a decade, it's great. = Especially if you and your SO have differing ideas of what is = comfortable. Yes, a King size is made up of two twin sizes with a = "spacer" in the middle but neither of us sleeps on the spacer. Only = real problem is that it is slightly larger than the King size box = springs that we have so it sticks out a little bit. >>>=20 >>> Lester >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ------------------------ >>>=20 >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>>=20 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy@mac.com >>=20 >> __ >>=20 >> Larry Macy >> 78 Midget >>=20 >> Keep your top down and your chin up. >>=20 >> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. >> lmacy@phillymgclub.com >> Board Secretary >> Philadelphia MG Club >>=20 >> The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. >>=20 >> Dorothy Parker >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net -- Larry B. 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From: Mark Haynes via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me.... But I can bring tools too! I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward ____________________________________________________________ No Branches = Great Rates Ally Bank http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st03duc ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 20 12:50:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272DA2587F3C for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 12:50:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lf0-f46.google.com (mail-lf0-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEED72587AF6 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 12:07:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lffv3 with SMTP id v3so9909396lff.0 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:08:33 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QzlRBd0KNk/1O9D+D7nh4fGBgpUfP7aVG/kCfFGocCc=; b=lYbTDO+aglBQtPMmE3+pudoE633nSMz8aDJ4xHFh+eiIYxAEMJzYV/SqmMhCxll2zQ iqgRmasGz2PL38fU96EFge6AMhKqt8Ur0Zh7YfV3heiA4NSQEWLSnjPBcmzd9F9xUeIX K98bhAPoJ3jga4tyaR6F/r4GlUBcCbTPzT4DQ0HEw2oQERvNjlFt/UlSx7xo1eD7I9uo lPq+80RawAvAdafLTRu+MhhSWfdm5tWeXJISvL3yMrdO7AzS8daaUjQbpsnzYFs7lYqj i3rSRiZKyxhhdC9cxHM9ePQiTYtsjnxeZH0qVIurlcCOIx0YV5muXDzvlXX1sKFCy2xt kVUA== Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.233.75 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:08:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <20151020.115054.16967.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 13:08:32 -0500 To: Mark Haynes Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City! ! From: "bmwwxman . via Spridgets" Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6141386769057071944== --001a11403a045cdbc705228d26c6 Come on out, Mark. It'll be fun. So far the following are at least thinking about it... Ron Soave Kevin Valentine Larry Macy Dave Weorpel Bob Kitterer Paul Herder (already here I think) There will be others plus some local gear heads. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets < spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: > So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me.... > But I can bring tools too! > I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > > ____________________________________________________________ > No Branches = Great Rates > Ally Bank > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st03duc > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman@gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology *"Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip."* *Winston Churchill* --001a11403a045cdbc705228d26c6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Come on out, Mark.=C2=A0 It'll be fun.=C2=A0 So far th= e following are at least thinking about it...

Ron So= ave
Kevin Valentine
Larry Macy
Dave Weorpel
Bob Kitterer
Paul Herder (already here I think)

There will be others plus some local gear heads.

Cheers!!
Jim

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Mark Haynes via= Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~= 8 hours in the BE for me.... But I can bring tools too!
I guess that I should anyway, Hunh?


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--001a11403a045cdbc705228d26c6-- --===============6141386769057071944== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6141386769057071944==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 20 15:25:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3902587814 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 15:25:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net (mtaout002-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net [68.114.190.27]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7917D2586DD9 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 15:25:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from impout002 ([68.114.189.17]) by mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.020.01 201-2473-160) with ESMTP id <20151020212551.PFSI16519.mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout002>; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:25:51 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.106] ([71.10.17.119]) by impout002 with charter.net id XZRq1r00L2a8AQ701ZRqiC; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:25:51 -0500 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:117 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=xaGEUNeggKH8_TusFwYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=k7BxY4K0AAAA:8 a=NFWz2lQrAAAA:8 a=ZW7zWiBKAAAA:8 a=nm0u3-D4Tduv1pD7rHUA:9 a=HqZ17c2GVFmyL-SE:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:25:53 -0400 References: <20151020.115054.16967.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> To: "bmwwxman ." Cc: Spridgets List , Mark Haynes Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City! ! From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7924245996420910386== boundary=Apple-Mail-FE6AA4BA-877E-4370-BA8D-50D130773B66 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-FE6AA4BA-877E-4370-BA8D-50D130773B66 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm thinking about it too Jim, and it's on my calendar. But April is a long= way off..... :-) Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 20, 2015, at 2:08 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > Come on out, Mark. It'll be fun. So far the following are at least think= ing about it... >=20 > Ron Soave > Kevin Valentine > Larry Macy > Dave Weorpel > Bob Kitterer > Paul Herder (already here I think) >=20 > There will be others plus some local gear heads. >=20 > Cheers!! > Jim >=20 >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: >> So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me....= But I can bring tools too! >> I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? >>=20 >>=20 >> Mark Haynes >> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >>=20 >> ____________________________________________________________ >> No Branches =3D Great Rates >> Ally Bank >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st03duc >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwx= man@gmail.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > High Plains Youth Hockey > Dodge City Trail of Fame=20 > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology >=20 > "Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they= look forward to the trip." > =20 > Winston Churchill >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk= @chartermi.net --Apple-Mail-FE6AA4BA-877E-4370-BA8D-50D130773B66 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm thinking about it too Jim, and it'= s on my calendar.  But April is a long way off.....   :-)

S= ent from my keyboard

On Oct 20, 2015, at 2:08 PM, bmwwxman . v= ia Spridgets <spridgets@autox= .team.net> wrote:

Come on out, Mark.  It'll be fun.  So far the following a= re at least thinking about it...

Ron Soave
= Kevin Valentine
Larry Macy
Dave Weorpel
Bob Ki= tterer
Paul Herder (already here I think)

There will be others plus some local gear heads.

C= heers!!
Jim

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets <= spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me...= . But I can bring tools too!
I guess that I should anyway, Hunh?


Mark Haynes
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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net If I can make it I'll be driving a Spridget. Don't know which one. 1100 plus miles. Have to take the long way to avoid Chicago. Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 20, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: > > So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me.... But I can bring tools too! > I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > > ____________________________________________________________ > No Branches = Great Rates > Ally Bank > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st03duc > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 21 07:45:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1802F2587604 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 07:45:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B4D725867DB for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 07:36:17 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1445434613; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=k2WrHDgXUsUPBuaOGZMlz5P4abbjIzVm3TuNfolAXmb7Mkk/QAlAsv6sYFt/AXqvt GeZ/wAq96YPBBf9QqfEKV8vofyUbzg/kx4jikS4t5rWJxmprgfohx7y7E84ozD0Gda lDJmassvHyT03ZIN4oE4T+H5epY7K49pXwFf3J8k= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail03.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.143]) by smtpout04.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABMCRFGDALRNUNJ for (sender ); Wed, 21 Oct 2015 06:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [63.238.231.114] by webmail03.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:35:50 GMT Full-Name: "Mark Haynes" Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:35:50 GMT To: refisk@chartermi.net Content-Disposition: inline Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City! ! From: Mark Haynes via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Well that's why it would be 8 hours for me, Interstates with a 948 and 4.11s aren't fun-really they're boring, so I'll have to go the long way around to keep things interesting and within the relative limits of a 58 year old car. And, yes, it still looks as bad as it did in 2011 when it won 'Most Likely to Score Last in a Concourse" ;} Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Rick Fisk To: Mark Haynes Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City! ! Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:42 -0400 If I can make it I'll be driving a Spridget. Don't know which one. 1100 plus miles. Have to take the long way to avoid Chicago. Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 20, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: > > So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me.... But I can bring tools too! > I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > > ____________________________________________________________ > No Branches = Great Rates > Ally Bank > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st03duc > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 21 09:01:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019532587737 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:01:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mtaout001.msg.strl.va.charter.net (mtaout001-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net [68.114.190.26]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F4F25876FE for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:00:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from impout001 ([68.114.189.16]) by mtaout001.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.020.01 201-2473-160) with ESMTP id <20151021150126.IUGO19813.mtaout001.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout001>; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:01:26 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.254] ([70.194.2.81]) by impout001 with charter.net id Xr1R1r00D1ksHb201r1Ria; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:01:26 -0500 a=papb+SVjK58tIGvjAvQCjg==:117 a=papb+SVjK58tIGvjAvQCjg==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=0dSSspX4IQSageNt4VAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:01:25 -0400 References: <20151021.073550.14201.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com> To: Mark Haynes Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City! ! From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I take the long way to avoid Chicago no matter what I'm driving. There's a reason they're called "Fibbies". :-) Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > > Well that's why it would be 8 hours for me, Interstates with a 948 and 4.11s aren't fun-really they're boring, so I'll have to go the long way around to keep things interesting and within the relative limits of a 58 year old car. > And, yes, it still looks as bad as it did in 2011 when it won 'Most Likely to Score Last in a Concourse" ;} > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Rick Fisk > To: Mark Haynes > Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City! ! > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:42 -0400 > > If I can make it I'll be driving a Spridget. Don't know which one. 1100 plus miles. Have to take the long way to avoid Chicago. > > Sent from my keyboard > >> On Oct 20, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: >> >> So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me.... But I can bring tools too! >> I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? >> >> >> Mark Haynes >> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> No Branches = Great Rates >> Ally Bank >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st03duc >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 21 11:03:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4FA2587F99 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:03:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yk0-f177.google.com (mail-yk0-f177.google.com [209.85.160.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0032587E46 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:00:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yknn9 with SMTP id n9so55723522ykn.0 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:00:59 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:importance; bh=b8yL7/SMphOoCO+ExARYUoxjuBk0sfWFHBQs0hsyCmQ=; b=cceWXlQP9+fhfNbqfg+XVMF8PXQsU3oH7LIEW5giyYY/sdVS/PppJ1Two22AfR+HUF TP9Xi3rH6y4Zu255/loGcdUWNzNxmf5anBKwRv8v/7HQ4MdECPGimMdHry+ToeSk9mU+ lcPDLJo40HWhqDQkjwD+ZniLVdssPA2ZOem5c9nvMs3ieQVGxQNMmgaHOEtyyk+Ln2KU roPrwRVcVd8XpuKyJ0k2iMqh+hUqUQOu86QsOSU3OtbZiK2+xRuGK3eI2Md0oRpplMIu juglHFGST+aUrSLnjQzyonwUKY9RDBcUBnO0tbCmuhTS2Z61oF1rEJc+0Veepm2AA25T ee0w== Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Snoopy ([2602:306:80ad:9850:61cb:9a22:b4e:6574]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m11sm2197622ywb.53.2015.10.21.10.00.58 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:00:59 -0700 (PDT) To: "Rick Fisk" References: <20151021.073550.14201.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:00:57 -0500 Importance: Normal Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! From: Jeff Kelly via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Ok Rick, Enlighten me ---- Fibbies ??? Jeff Kelly Aurora IL -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:01 AM To: Mark Haynes Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! I take the long way to avoid Chicago no matter what I'm driving. There's a reason they're called "Fibbies". :-) Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > > Well that's why it would be 8 hours for me, Interstates with a 948 and > 4.11s aren't fun-really they're boring, so I'll have to go the long way > around to keep things interesting and within the relative limits of a 58 > year old car. > And, yes, it still looks as bad as it did in 2011 when it won 'Most Likely > to Score Last in a Concourse" ;} > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Rick Fisk > To: Mark Haynes > Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge > City! ! > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:42 -0400 > > If I can make it I'll be driving a Spridget. Don't know which one. 1100 > plus miles. Have to take the long way to avoid Chicago. > > Sent from my keyboard > >> On Oct 20, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets >> wrote: >> >> So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me.... >> But I can bring tools too! >> I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? >> >> >> Mark Haynes >> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> No Branches = Great Rates >> Ally Bank >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st03duc >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 21 14:38:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6952584C7E for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:38:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net (unknown [68.114.190.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C73258591B for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:19:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from impout002 ([68.114.189.17]) by mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.020.01 201-2473-160) with ESMTP id <20151021201957.ZKVN6048.mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout002>; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:19:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.106] ([71.10.17.119]) by impout002 with charter.net id XwKx1r0032a8AQ701wKxwc; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:19:57 -0500 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:117 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=WWN3fyBarv6n5FV9xl8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:19:58 -0400 References: <20151021.073550.14201.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com> <9BFB85E094754041A440D9ED410329B8@Snoopy> To: Jeff Kelly Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Jeff, The acronym is actually "FIB" and becomes "Fibbies" in common speech. FIB is an acronym for three words - the second is Illinois and the third is Bastard. You can figure out what the first is. I first heard it in everyday speech in southern Wisconsin and actually saw it in use on a billboard there advertising Greyhound dog racing - "Faster than a speeding Fibbie". The driving habits of those from Illinois are not appreciated in Wisconsin. Rick Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 21, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Jeff Kelly wrote: > > Ok Rick, Enlighten me ---- Fibbies ??? > Jeff Kelly > Aurora IL > > -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:01 AM > To: Mark Haynes > Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! > > I take the long way to avoid Chicago no matter what I'm driving. There's a reason they're called "Fibbies". :-) > > Sent from my keyboard > >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: >> >> Well that's why it would be 8 hours for me, Interstates with a 948 and 4.11s aren't fun-really they're boring, so I'll have to go the long way around to keep things interesting and within the relative limits of a 58 year old car. >> And, yes, it still looks as bad as it did in 2011 when it won 'Most Likely to Score Last in a Concourse" ;} >> >> >> Mark Haynes >> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Rick Fisk >> To: Mark Haynes >> Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City! ! >> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:42 -0400 >> >> If I can make it I'll be driving a Spridget. Don't know which one. 1100 plus miles. Have to take the long way to avoid Chicago. >> >> Sent from my keyboard >> >>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: >>> >>> So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me.... But I can bring tools too! >>> I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? >>> >>> >>> Mark Haynes >>> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> No Branches = Great Rates >>> Ally Bank >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st03duc >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 21 14:51:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA152584670 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:51:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vk0-f52.google.com (mail-vk0-f52.google.com [209.85.213.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC0A25855F9 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:47:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vkex70 with SMTP id x70so35762110vke.3 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:47:58 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=gi4toQhRMijpv0S+oAMXqE5FXUgq3s4nUa9qgBuIAIU=; b=rGZY7eixdxMDHfGlXm3jqjLut9EpUlBzn61kAE6+D/GIyDJdvLVeaBYxoyEaYgsPHo DdONV8xIFKNXTDDY6GwMwcC3wYT9tErKqFot0BN3jOiGzTewWq13VpBXTqvr/ePjtR+q 8jFikKKLJcHeM0bIv7YcGvFeOb6NQDIlh2QfeQQyepZHvSwHhq82Which1uBHhC1Wpnr bg5R+ZNVtE4n3ND9V80ABf01Ot0SnHkvFNEUvvGAxdlWB1q2+qF/VmMk9XDk2eMbHyBl uJpqIug43tpAlpJA6G8GJEZfHQSpSYPGlqEY2RGG5RZJ/gNJ4BmVhUMmpRkecQukE6sd WtXA== Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HPi7 (ip68-103-113-20.ks.ok.cox.net. [68.103.113.20]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 16sm848000vko.5.2015.10.21.13.47.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) To: References: <20151021.073550.14201.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com> <9BFB85E094754041A440D9ED410329B8@Snoopy> <65478AE0-78D8-43F1-8BC0-2FE9FEF34C11@chartermi.net> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:47:56 -0500 Thread-Index: AQFBAxKENdz5zYZxG9+zDm5Nk4PYoQJrAfFlAf0T4GMCUOMKt59gtPpA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! From: Paul Herder via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Interesting... the urban dictionary has it as FBI agents... Urban dictionary is national whereas your definition is regional... :^) Paul -----Original Message----- From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk via Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 3:20 PM To: Jeff Kelly Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! Hi Jeff, The acronym is actually "FIB" and becomes "Fibbies" in common speech. FIB is an acronym for three words - the second is Illinois and the third is Bastard. You can figure out what the first is. I first heard it in everyday speech in southern Wisconsin and actually saw it in use on a billboard there advertising Greyhound dog racing - "Faster than a speeding Fibbie". The driving habits of those from Illinois are not appreciated in Wisconsin. Rick Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 21, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Jeff Kelly wrote: > > Ok Rick, Enlighten me ---- Fibbies ??? > Jeff Kelly > Aurora IL > > -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:01 AM > To: Mark Haynes > Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! > > I take the long way to avoid Chicago no matter what I'm driving. There's a reason they're called "Fibbies". :-) > > Sent from my keyboard > >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: >> >> Well that's why it would be 8 hours for me, Interstates with a 948 and 4.11s aren't fun-really they're boring, so I'll have to go the long way around to keep things interesting and within the relative limits of a 58 year old car. >> And, yes, it still looks as bad as it did in 2011 when it won 'Most >> Likely to Score Last in a Concourse" ;} >> >> >> Mark Haynes >> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Rick Fisk >> To: Mark Haynes >> Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge City! ! >> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:42 -0400 >> >> If I can make it I'll be driving a Spridget. Don't know which one. 1100 plus miles. Have to take the long way to avoid Chicago. >> >> Sent from my keyboard >> >>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets wrote: >>> >>> So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for me.... But I can bring tools too! >>> I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? >>> >>> >>> Mark Haynes >>> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> No Branches = Great Rates >>> Ally Bank >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st0 >>> 3duc >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: >>> $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/george.p.brokaw@gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 21 16:29:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3942585205 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:29:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mtaout001.msg.strl.va.charter.net (mtaout001-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net [68.114.190.26]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D522585631 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:23:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from impout003 ([68.114.189.18]) by mtaout001.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.020.01 201-2473-160) with ESMTP id <20151021222415.QGNH19813.mtaout001.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout003>; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:24:15 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.106] ([71.10.17.119]) by impout003 with charter.net id XyQE1r0052a8AQ701yQEva; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:24:15 -0500 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:117 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=x_iwPJwh_LfBZrHduOAA:9 a=FAg4XLga_1syCQw0:21 a=vo9nZcuenttNrBm3:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 18:24:14 -0400 References: <20151021.073550.14201.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com> <9BFB85E094754041A440D9ED410329B8@Snoopy> <65478AE0-78D8-43F1-8BC0-2FE9FEF34C11@chartermi.net> <0d6601d10c41$c4790c90$4d6b25b0$@gmail.com> To: Paul Herder Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The urban dictionary is for those who have never driven through Chicago. :-) Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Herder via Spridgets wrote: > > Interesting... the urban dictionary has it as FBI agents... > > Urban dictionary is national whereas your definition is regional... :^) > > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick > Fisk via Spridgets > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 3:20 PM > To: Jeff Kelly > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in > DodgeCity! ! > > Hi Jeff, > > The acronym is actually "FIB" and becomes "Fibbies" in common speech. FIB > is an acronym for three words - the second is Illinois and the third is > Bastard. You can figure out what the first is. > > I first heard it in everyday speech in southern Wisconsin and actually saw > it in use on a billboard there advertising Greyhound dog racing - "Faster > than a speeding Fibbie". The driving habits of those from Illinois are not > appreciated in Wisconsin. > > Rick > > Sent from my keyboard > >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Jeff Kelly wrote: >> >> Ok Rick, Enlighten me ---- Fibbies ??? >> Jeff Kelly >> Aurora IL >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:01 AM >> To: Mark Haynes >> Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in > DodgeCity! ! >> >> I take the long way to avoid Chicago no matter what I'm driving. There's > a reason they're called "Fibbies". :-) >> >> Sent from my keyboard >> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: >>> >>> Well that's why it would be 8 hours for me, Interstates with a 948 and > 4.11s aren't fun-really they're boring, so I'll have to go the long way > around to keep things interesting and within the relative limits of a 58 > year old car. >>> And, yes, it still looks as bad as it did in 2011 when it won 'Most >>> Likely to Score Last in a Concourse" ;} >>> >>> >>> Mark Haynes >>> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >>> >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> From: Rick Fisk >>> To: Mark Haynes >>> Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" >>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in Dodge > City! ! >>> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:42 -0400 >>> >>> If I can make it I'll be driving a Spridget. Don't know which one. 1100 > plus miles. Have to take the long way to avoid Chicago. >>> >>> Sent from my keyboard >>> >>>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets > wrote: >>>> >>>> So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for > me.... But I can bring tools too! >>>> I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark Haynes >>>> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> No Branches = Great Rates >>>> Ally Bank >>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/56267f3d61e617f3d71c7st0 >>>> 3duc >>>> ------------------------ >>>> >>>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: >>>> $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: >> $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye@gmail.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/george.p.brokaw@gmail.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 21 16:31:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9597C2585A6C for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:31:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vk0-f49.google.com (mail-vk0-f49.google.com [209.85.213.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA242585192 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:30:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vkgy127 with SMTP id y127so37481963vkg.0 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:31:29 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=aGoX4lXrgvWRrFm3s7vOw98JGBX9QdmZ2AYoPRpudvA=; b=a/8QPuPZdLLk3Z6AcJy1arUWapNW1R5JPN6gxW9RkM8V/0a8dQ18weU1+muG2vcMh7 o7CvbJMJ/3FdkP0K4czSPDxIoDgs5XhQzSjUs5A/wD62ds3YjzQgZe7SFwVodnn6C4Mz lYdM4H7t/h/IFBW5QiPmTgY/FBVQN2M/bcok9OlQTasDqeH9AiHybf1oPaN8D0LAg3DJ IumCPDWRdQC7/c84L2p11ZPveVfsbaQA3o10Ff8n+439mWQkUjTSPgCDFmzcCyzJGARm YLlNxTwlNNSjKygphijWYZOm+BqyadRrof8pAET91tZwl3yHtJvaQook+MMhDUg7E5QX Snqw== Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HPi7 (ip68-103-113-20.ks.ok.cox.net. [68.103.113.20]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 133sm2180095vkf.9.2015.10.21.15.31.28 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:31:28 -0700 (PDT) To: "'Rick Fisk'" References: <20151021.073550.14201.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com> <9BFB85E094754041A440D9ED410329B8@Snoopy> <65478AE0-78D8-43F1-8BC0-2FE9FEF34C11@chartermi.net> <0d6601d10c41$c4790c90$4d6b25b0$@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:31:27 -0500 Thread-Index: AQFBAxKENdz5zYZxG9+zDm5Nk4PYoQJrAfFlAf0T4GMCUOMKtwHBnWmBAjLGT4GfQS2QAA== Content-Language: en-us Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! From: Paul Herder via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Or any big city. Try Dallas or Houston (both of which I try to avoid also!) I guess they would be FTBs... I once had to go to Rockford, Il airport and took the United Airlines bus there... :rolleyes: Couldn't fly into the airport since at the time it was not a commercially serviced airport. The next time I rented a car from O'Hara and drove myself. I remember being told they have all four seasons there... Almost winter, winter, still winter and construction. I was there both times during construction. :^) Paul -----Original Message----- The urban dictionary is for those who have never driven through Chicago. :-) Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Herder via Spridgets wrote: > > Interesting... the urban dictionary has it as FBI agents... > > Urban dictionary is national whereas your definition is regional... > :^) > > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > > Hi Jeff, > > The acronym is actually "FIB" and becomes "Fibbies" in common speech. > FIB is an acronym for three words - the second is Illinois and the > third is Bastard. You can figure out what the first is. > > I first heard it in everyday speech in southern Wisconsin and actually > saw it in use on a billboard there advertising Greyhound dog racing - > "Faster than a speeding Fibbie". The driving habits of those from > Illinois are not appreciated in Wisconsin. > > Rick > > Sent from my keyboard > >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Jeff Kelly wrote: >> >> Ok Rick, Enlighten me ---- Fibbies ??? >> Jeff Kelly >> Aurora IL >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets >> >> I take the long way to avoid Chicago no matter what I'm driving. >> There's > a reason they're called "Fibbies". :-) >> >> Sent from my keyboard >> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: >>> >>> Well that's why it would be 8 hours for me, Interstates with a 948 >>> and > 4.11s aren't fun-really they're boring, so I'll have to go the long > way around to keep things interesting and within the relative limits > of a 58 year old car. >>> And, yes, it still looks as bad as it did in 2011 when it won 'Most >>> Likely to Score Last in a Concourse" ;} >>> >>> >>> Mark Haynes >>> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >>> >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:42 -0400 >>> >>> If I can make it I'll be driving a Spridget. Don't know which one. >>> 1100 > plus miles. Have to take the long way to avoid Chicago. >>> >>> Sent from my keyboard >>> >>>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets > wrote: >>>> >>>> So who's planning on driving? It looks like ~8 hours in the BE for > me.... But I can bring tools too! >>>> I guess that I should anyway, Hunh? >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark Haynes >>>> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >>>> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 21 18:54:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8AC2585ECA for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 18:54:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-io0-f178.google.com (mail-io0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C75B25855B0 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 18:44:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ioll68 with SMTP id l68so76389153iol.3 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:44:46 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bhr7pqwIq4A6jl38YOE9UELuWVpyzHavXjUg4ms0HfM=; b=xf03ATYYmNQ3/95KTAgka01zO3P263jsixZiEPDmnZ4SzvDPZg3JsGybvOqGs3z/od NBxB817Adj4GX7yd2JtaX+NZJV3wrxYtT1A4t8xdjMNa4fCgMy/EfxX7MuxfCCVpbF/L thSbpFaX6Y6/i6nPeZ+TQeRFPo2fwnupF0eZpzkkuc7yVe7WWFAh6H29ywjauPH+vQvE gtYigroCJCc2Q3EtQcJ6I3bs0IS1Qn0Keq3EoC/XqU7P9iIDNJKB+b+tEL7A/4VwLWPv do5corm5XRv9wJvWsRnPvPcF1LrvOZgULbkm2EmxyZ/GDPNAe1krgxWS3M1HU2QmIYl6 7bOw== Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.219.136 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:44:46 -0700 (PDT) References: <20151021.073550.14201.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com> <9BFB85E094754041A440D9ED410329B8@Snoopy> <65478AE0-78D8-43F1-8BC0-2FE9FEF34C11@chartermi.net> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:44:46 -0500 To: Rick Fisk , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Date adjustment on Spring OSHIT WWOSHIT in DodgeCity! ! From: David Lieb via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1671323284558682394== --001a1141f38a39d6620522a6cdc6 And the feeling is mutual. Illinois drivers tend not to appreciate the antics of those who live north of the Cheddar Curtain. F'rinstance, the joy they take in waiting until you are close enough for them to be sure you have an Illinois plate before they pull out in front of you and do 10mph under the limit right up to the beginning of the passing zone, then speed up. Cheese-brained drivers are a pain! David L --001a1141f38a39d6620522a6cdc6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And the feeling is mutual. Illinois drivers tend not = to appreciate the antics of those who live north of the Cheddar Curtain. F&= #39;rinstance, the joy they take=C2=A0in waiting until you are close enough= for them to be sure you have an Illinois plate before they pull out in fro= nt of you and do 10mph under the limit right up to the beginning of the pas= sing zone, then speed up. Cheese-brained drivers are a pain!
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Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:27:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:27:33 +0000 (UTC) To: Spridgets Net References: <1994038044.1996387.1445675253032.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2541638361306875271== boundary="----=_Part_1996386_254292914.1445675253030" ------=_Part_1996386_254292914.1445675253030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.=C2= =A0 Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it woul= d die.=C2=A0 I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging = up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few months with= out starting it.=C2=A0 I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear th= e new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but ac= cording to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left.=C2=A0 As long as= I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.= =C2=A0 That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally b= reaking in.=C2=A0 I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one r= eady to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old ethano= l laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.=C2=A0 I = thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.=C2=A0 It ran great fo= r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and wou= ld idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep = it running.=C2=A0 I hate this Kalifornia gas.Mike MacLean60 Sprite56 BN2 ------=_Part_1996386_254292914.1445675253030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
     T= ook the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.  Could not get it to idle= . As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.  I recently had = a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after lea= ving it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.  I ins= talled a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly = behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it= had at least a 1/4 tank left.  As long as I kept my foot in it and di= d not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.  That new 1275 that I = installed a few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.  I was goin= g to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), = but I got it running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the = tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.  I thought I cleaned the fuel s= ystem out of the ethanol.  It ran great for a while. It did die a coup= le of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep = revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it running.  I hate thi= s Kalifornia gas.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
------=_Part_1996386_254292914.1445675253030-- --===============2541638361306875271== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2541638361306875271==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 24 03:25:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1B22585D29 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 03:25:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F68C2585CE0 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 03:25:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.170.132.228] (helo=spider) by smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Zpv5T-0005I6-Jl for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 05:26:08 -0400 To: References: <1994038044.1996387.1445675253032.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1994038044.1996387.1445675253032.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 02:26:05 -0700 Thread-Index: AdEON1J3nMSwanY4Si6igl9Kl5r+bgABlrNg Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: corvallis--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7150416740917750255== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01D10E03.560194D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01D10E03.560194D0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since the fuel pump is constantly running, I'll guess that it is flooding out at idle. Look at your spark plugs. If they're not wet or sooted up, look for a loose carb at the intake manifold. Bill in Oregon _____ From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean via Spridgets Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:28 AM To: Spridgets Net Subject: [Spridgets] Won't Idle Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight. Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die. I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it. I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left. As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas. I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol. It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it running. I hate this Kalifornia gas. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01D10E03.560194D0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Since the fuel pump is constantly = running, I’ll guess that it is flooding out at idle. =

Look at your spark = plugs.

If they’re not wet or sooted = up, look for a loose carb at the intake manifold.  Bill in Oregon


From: = Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean via Spridgets
Sent: Saturday, October = 24, 2015 1:28 AM
To: Spridgets Net
Subject: [Spridgets] = Won't Idle

 

     Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.  Could not get it to = idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.  I recently had = a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after = leaving it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.  I = installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind = me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at = least a 1/4 tank left.  As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.  That new 1275 that I = installed a few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.  I was going to replace = the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it = running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 = octane ethanol free gas.  I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.  It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, = but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the = throttle at the stop light to keep it running.  I hate this Kalifornia = gas.

Mike = MacLean

60 = Sprite

56 = BN2

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Thanks. I hope it is as simple as that. Mike =20 On Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:26 AM, corvallis--- via Spridgets wrote: =20 =20 #yiv7692201527 #yiv7692201527 -- _filtered #yiv7692201527 {font-family:Tah= oma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv7692201527 #yiv7692201527 p.yiv76922= 01527MsoNormal, #yiv7692201527 li.yiv7692201527MsoNormal, #yiv7692201527 di= v.yiv7692201527MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt= ;}#yiv7692201527 a:link, #yiv7692201527 span.yiv7692201527MsoHyperlink {col= or:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7692201527 a:visited, #yiv7692201527= span.yiv7692201527MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:under= line;}#yiv7692201527 span.yiv7692201527EmailStyle17 {font-family:Arial;colo= r:navy;} _filtered #yiv7692201527 {margin:.7in .5in 33.1pt .5in;}#yiv769220= 1527 div.yiv7692201527Section1 {}#yiv7692201527 Since the fuel pump is cons= tantly running,I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is flooding out at idle. Look at= your spark plugs. If they=E2=80=99re not wet or sooted up, look fora loose= carb at the intake manifold.=C2=A0 Bill in Oregon From: Spridgets[mailto:s= pridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] OnBehalf Of Michael MacLean via Spridgets Sent: Saturday, October 24, 20151:28 AM To: Spridgets Net Subject: [Spridgets] Won't Idle =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Took the Bu= geye out to run an errand tonight.=C2=A0 Could not get it to idle.As soon a= s I took my foot off the gas it would die.=C2=A0 I recently had aproblem wi= th the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leavingit sit i= n the garage for a few months without starting it.=C2=A0 I installed anew F= acet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind melike = the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at leasta = 1/4 tank left.=C2=A0 As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stopanywhe= re, it ran like a scalded cat.=C2=A0 That new 1275 that I installed a fewth= ousand miles ago is finally breaking in.=C2=A0 I was going to replace thefu= el tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it runnin= gby draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane= ethanol free gas.=C2=A0 I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of theethan= ol.=C2=A0 It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, butstarte= d right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the throttleat = the stop light to keep it running.=C2=A0 I hate this Kalifornia gas. Mike M= acLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2=20 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eer.mike@att.net =20 ------=_Part_2064856_456838876.1445679056001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'll check that out in th= e morning. Thanks. I hope it is as simple as that.
Mike



On Saturday, October 24, 20= 15 2:26 AM, corvallis--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wro= te:


=
Si= nce the fuel pump is constantly running, I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is flooding out at idle.
=20
Lo= ok at your spark plugs.
=20
If= they=E2=80=99re not wet or sooted up, look for a loose carb at the intake manifold.  Bill in Oregon=20

From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean via Spridgets
Sent: Saturday, October 24,= 2015 1:28 AM
To: Spridgets Net
Subject: [Spridgets] Won't = Idle
=20
 
=20
     Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.  Could not get it to idl= e. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.  I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leavi= ng it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.  I installe= d a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at le= ast a 1/4 tank left.  As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.  That new 1275 that I installed a= few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.  I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it runn= ing by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.  I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.  It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the throt= tle at the stop light to keep it running.  I hate this Kalifornia gas.
=20
Mike MacLean
=20
60 Sprite
=20
56 BN2
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------=_Part_2064856_456838876.1445679056001-- --===============4684650634380385283== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4684650634380385283==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 24 08:08:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE862585162 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net (unknown [68.114.190.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8C42586DBF for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 07:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from impout002 ([68.114.189.17]) by mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.020.01 201-2473-160) with ESMTP id <20151024134427.TLMM440.mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout002>; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:44:27 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.106] ([71.10.17.119]) by impout002 with charter.net id Z1kS1r00F2a8AQ7011kTfu; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:44:27 -0500 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:117 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=2CV_xTnSHcQpKeQMC7AA:9 a=nQvR4oevW6eG0yoU:21 a=mRtXamk2SJ0stvaa:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=sO5nzNvIrG6IL6A_nu4A:9 a=sIPI7nPG984eXOyp:21 a=3QepZW2nejug5yWA:21 a=MKVNmbH7SVxZZ5TJ:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 09:44:27 -0400 References: <1117762593.2064857.1445679056007.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> To: Michael MacLean Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4465772346882473083== boundary=Apple-Mail-4D673658-CD8E-4EEF-A158-A06B9C01FA71 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-4D673658-CD8E-4EEF-A158-A06B9C01FA71 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd look at the float levels and the needles and seats. Sounds like the flo= at needles aren't seating properly. Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:30 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > I'll check that out in the morning. Thanks. I hope it is as simple as that= . > Mike >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:26 AM, corvallis--- via Spridgets wrote: >=20 >=20 > Since the fuel pump is constantly running, I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is f= looding out at idle. > Look at your spark plugs. > If they=E2=80=99re not wet or sooted up, look for a loose carb at the inta= ke manifold. Bill in Oregon > From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mic= hael MacLean via Spridgets > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:28 AM > To: Spridgets Net > Subject: [Spridgets] Won't Idle > =20 > Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight. Could not get it to id= le. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die. I recently had a pr= oblem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving i= t sit in the garage for a few months without starting it. I installed a new= Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me lik= e the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a= 1/4 tank left. As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, i= t ran like a scalded cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand mil= es ago is finally breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I hav= e a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining th= e old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free ga= s. I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol. It ran great fo= r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and woul= d idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it= running. I hate this Kalifornia gas. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengi= neer.mike@att.net >=20 >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk= @chartermi.net --Apple-Mail-4D673658-CD8E-4EEF-A158-A06B9C01FA71 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd look at the float levels and the n= eedles and seats.  Sounds like the float needles aren't seating properl= y.

Sent from my keyboard
I'll check that out in the morning. Thanks. I h= ope it is as simple as that.
Mike


On Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:26 AM, corvallis--- via Sp= ridgets <spridgets@autox.team= .net> wrote:


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Sinc= e the fuel pump is constantly running, I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is flooding out at idle.
=20
Look= at your spark plugs.
=20
If t= hey=E2=80=99re not wet or sooted up, look for a loose carb at the intake manifold.  Bill in Oregon=20

From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounce= s@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean via Spridgets
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2= 015 1:28 AM
To: Spridgets Net
Subject: [Spridgets] Won't I= dle
=20
 
=20
     Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.  Could not get it to idle= . As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.  I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leavin= g it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.  I installed= a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at lea= st a 1/4 tank left.  As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.  That new 1275 that I installed a f= ew thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.  I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it runni= ng by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.  I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.  It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the thrott= le at the stop light to keep it running.  I hate this Kalifornia gas.
=20
Mike MacLean
=20
60 Sprite
=20
56 BN2
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The= fuel pump is also brand new.Mike MacLean =20 On Saturday, October 24, 2015 6:44 AM, Rick Fisk wrote: =20 =20 I'd look at the float levels and the needles and seats. =C2=A0Sounds like = the float needles aren't seating properly. Sent from my keyboard On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:30 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: I'll check that out in the morning. Thanks. I hope it is as simple as that. Mike =20 On Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:26 AM, corvallis--- via Spridgets wrote: =20 =20 #yiv1287213592 -- filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2= 4;}#yiv1287213592 p.yiv1287213592MsoNormal, #yiv1287213592 li.yiv128721359= 2MsoNormal, #yiv1287213592 div.yiv1287213592MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bo= ttom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1287213592 a:link, #yiv1287213592 span.y= iv1287213592MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1287213= 592 a:visited, #yiv1287213592 span.yiv1287213592MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color= :purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1287213592 span.yiv1287213592EmailSt= yle17 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;}#yiv1287213592 filtered {margin:.7in .= 5in 33.1pt .5in;}#yiv1287213592 div.yiv1287213592Section1 {}#yiv1287213592 = Since the fuel pump is constantly running,I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is flo= oding out at idle. Look at your spark plugs. If they=E2=80=99re not wet or= sooted up, look fora loose carb at the intake manifold.=C2=A0 Bill in Oreg= on From: Spridgets[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] OnBehalf Of Mic= hael MacLean via Spridgets Sent: Saturday, October 24, 20151:28 AM To: Spridgets Net Subject: [Spridgets] Won't Idle =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Took the Bu= geye out to run an errand tonight.=C2=A0 Could not get it to idle.As soon a= s I took my foot off the gas it would die.=C2=A0 I recently had aproblem wi= th the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leavingit sit i= n the garage for a few months without starting it.=C2=A0 I installed anew F= acet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind melike = the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at leasta = 1/4 tank left.=C2=A0 As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stopanywhe= re, it ran like a scalded cat.=C2=A0 That new 1275 that I installed a fewth= ousand miles ago is finally breaking in.=C2=A0 I was going to replace thefu= el tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it runnin= gby draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane= ethanol free gas.=C2=A0 I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of theethan= ol.=C2=A0 It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, butstarte= d right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the throttleat = the stop light to keep it running.=C2=A0 I hate this Kalifornia gas. Mike M= acLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2=20 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eer.mike@att.net =20 =20 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive chartermi.net =20 ------=_Part_2165125_522843924.1445705436307 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I should have mentioned th= at I am running a single HIF44 carb.  It is relatively brand new from = APT.  Also using Pertronix for "points". The fuel pump is also brand n= ew.
Mike MacLe= an
=


On Saturday= , October 24, 2015 6:44 AM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wrote:


I'd look at = the float levels and the needles and seats.  Sounds like the float nee= dles aren't seating properly.

Sent fro= m my keyboard

On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:30 AM, Michael= MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
I'll check that out in the morning. Thanks. I hope it is as = simple as that.
Mike


On Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:= 26 AM, corvallis--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:


Si= nce the fuel pump is constantly running, I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is flooding out at idle.
=20
Lo= ok at your spark plugs.
=20
If= they=E2=80=99re not wet or sooted up, look for a loose carb at the intake manifold.  Bill in Oregon=20

From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean via Spridgets
Sent: Saturday, October 24,= 2015 1:28 AM
To: Spridgets Net
Subject: [Spridgets] Won't = Idle
=20
 
=20
     Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.  Could not get it to idl= e. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.  I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leavi= ng it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.  I installe= d a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at le= ast a 1/4 tank left.  As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.  That new 1275 that I installed a= few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.  I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it runn= ing by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.  I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.  It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the throt= tle at the stop light to keep it running.  I hate this Kalifornia gas.
=20
Mike MacLean
=20
60 Sprite
=20
56 BN2
=20



=


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Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Michael MacLean wr= ote: >=20 > I should have mentioned that I am running a single HIF44 carb. It is rela= tively brand new from APT. Also using Pertronix for "points". The fuel pump= is also brand new. > Mike MacLean >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Saturday, October 24, 2015 6:44 AM, Rick Fisk wr= ote: >=20 >=20 > I'd look at the float levels and the needles and seats. Sounds like the f= loat needles aren't seating properly. >=20 > Sent from my keyboard >=20 >> On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:30 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >> I'll check that out in the morning. Thanks. I hope it is as simple as tha= t. >> Mike >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:26 AM, corvallis--- via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> Since the fuel pump is constantly running, I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is f= looding out at idle. >> Look at your spark plugs. >> If they=E2=80=99re not wet or sooted up, look for a loose carb at the int= ake manifold. Bill in Oregon >> From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mi= chael MacLean via Spridgets >> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:28 AM >> To: Spridgets Net >> Subject: [Spridgets] Won't Idle >> =20 >> Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight. Could not get it to i= dle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die. I recently had a p= roblem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving= it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it. I installed a n= ew Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me l= ike the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at leas= t a 1/4 tank left. As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywher= e, it ran like a scalded cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand= miles ago is finally breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I= have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by drainin= g the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol fre= e gas. I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol. It ran grea= t for a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and w= ould idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep= it running. I hate this Kalifornia gas. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rreng= ineer.mike@att.net >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refis= k@chartermi.net >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-94B23B07-3FC2-4B03-8660-D8AA69000C21 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did you check the float adjustment?
Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Micha= el MacLean <rrengineer.mike@at= t.net> wrote:

I should have mentioned that I am running a single HIF44 carb.  I= t is relatively brand new from APT.  Also using Pertronix for "points".= The fuel pump is also brand new.
Mike MacLean



On Saturday, October 24, 2015 6:44 AM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wrote:
<= /div>


I'd look at the float level= s and the needles and seats.  Sounds like the float needles aren't seat= ing properly.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:30 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridg= ets <spridg= ets@autox.team.net> wrote:

I'll check= that out in the morning. Thanks. I hope it is as simple as that.
Mike



On Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:26 AM, corvallis--- via Spridgets &= lt;spridgets@a= utox.team.net> wrote:


Sinc= e the fuel pump is constantly running, I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is flooding out at idle.
=20
Look= at your spark plugs.
=20
If t= hey=E2=80=99re not wet or sooted up, look for a loose carb at the intake manifold.  Bill in Oregon=20

From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean via Spridgets
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2= 015 1:28 AM
To: Spridgets Net
Subject: [Spridgets] Won't I= dle
=20
 
=20
     Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.  Could not get it to idle= . As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.  I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leavin= g it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.  I installed= a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at lea= st a 1/4 tank left.  As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.  That new 1275 that I installed a f= ew thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.  I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it runni= ng by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.  I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.  It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the thrott= le at the stop light to keep it running.  I hate this Kalifornia gas.
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= --Apple-Mail-94B23B07-3FC2-4B03-8660-D8AA69000C21-- --===============3091209071669229896== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3091209071669229896==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 24 19:00:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4624A2585B4F for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:00:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6732585B2A for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.170.132.228] (helo=spider) by smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Zq9gh-0005aC-0L for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 21:01:31 -0400 To: References: <0FC68F19-CB3F-4FCC-9623-DD771B95980B@chartermi.net> <338870242.2165126.1445705436317.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:01:27 -0700 Thread-Index: AdEOv5V9l40C2b1bRvOGSZ2b67DENAAAJuKA Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: corvallis--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7391053154842043564== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01D10E86.023F3B80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01D10E86.023F3B80 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check the fuel pressure. There are different 'sizes' of electronic fuel pumps for engines; higher volume for larger engines may mean too much pressure for a 4-banger. Bill in Oregon ================================================================= On Oct 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: I should have mentioned that I am running a single HIF44 carb. It is relatively brand new from APT. Also using Pertronix for "points". The fuel pump is also brand new. Mike MacLean ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01D10E86.023F3B80 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Check the fuel pressure. There are different ‘sizes’ of electronic = fuel pumps for engines; higher volume for larger engines may mean too much pressure for a = 4-banger.  Bill in Oregon

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On Oct 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> = wrote:

I = should have mentioned that I am running a single HIF44 carb.  It is relatively = brand new from APT.  Also using Pertronix for "points". The = fuel pump is also brand new.

Mike = MacLean

 

 

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What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle sc= rew)?=C2=A0 Perhaps it's just set too low to idle.

W= hat psi range does the pump run? =C2=A01.5 to 3.5 is good for these carbs, = right.

Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting = into the carb & jets?

No vacuum leaks...right?=

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Mike MacLean
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56 BN2

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The facet pumps give a constant tap tap tap when running regardless of whether they've got fuel or not. It's pretty annoying especially if you solid mounted the pump. I'm thinking about going back to an SU pump for this reason. Newer fuel hose is formulated to resist the ethanol in the gas.

The first thing I'd look for is a vacuum line that's come loose; PCV valve and distributor vacuum advance.

Dave Ambrose

On 10/24/2015 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote:
     Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.  Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.  I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.  I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left.  As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.  That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.  I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.  I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.  It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it running.  I hate this Kalifornia gas.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


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Were fuel lines blocked the pump would sto= p running as it would be up to pressure. =C2=A0=C2=A0It is obviously someth= ing that has happened fairly quickly as it is presumed it happened during t= he journey and it was ticking over OK (albeit with the choke on) when you l= eft the house. =C2=A0As it runs OK at higher revs this may suggest it is NO= T a blockage problem. =C2=A0 Guy R Day =20 =20 On Sunday, 25 October 2015, 2:46, WFO Herb via Spridgets wrote: =20 What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle screw)?=C2=A0 Perhaps it's= just set too low to idle. What psi range does the pump run? =C2=A01.5 to 3.5 is good for these carbs,= right. Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets? No vacuum leaks...right? Herb=C2=A0 On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.=C2= =A0 Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it woul= d die.=C2=A0 I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging = up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few months with= out starting it.=C2=A0 I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear th= e new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but ac= cording to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left.=C2=A0 As long as= I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.= =C2=A0 That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally b= reaking in.=C2=A0 I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one r= eady to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old ethano= l laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.=C2=A0 I = thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.=C2=A0 It ran great fo= r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and wou= ld idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep = it running.=C2=A0 I hate this Kalifornia gas.Mike MacLean60 Sprite56 BN2 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 0@gmail.com --=20 The only people=C2=A0worth getting even with are those who have helped you.= =C2=A0- =C2=A0Anonymous Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email:=C2=A0 If y= ou forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which= includes my email address!=C2=A0 It is a courtesy to me and others who may= not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world!=C2=A0 Eras= ing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses fr= om being propagated!=C2=A0 IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electro= ns were horribly inconvenienced. 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Michael= , you have had suggestions of:-
Float adjustment
Fuel Pressure
Idle s= crew adjustment
Semi bl= ocked or blocked lines (add filters)
Vacuum leaks

Just to round things off I'll add 
ignition timing.
Dashpot oil
<= div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076">Clogged up poppet valve

As it was running after you cleared the fuel lines = last time and the pump sounds to be running at all times it raises the ques= tion of  where is all that pumped fuel going to?  Thi= s may suggest a problem with the float operated shut off valve. Were fuel l= ines blocked the pump would stop running as it would be up to pressure. &nb= sp; 
It is obviously some= thing that has happened fairly quickly as it is presumed it happened during= the journey and it was ticking over OK (albeit with the choke on) when you= left the house.  As it runs OK at higher revs this may suggest it is = NOT a blockage problem.  

Guy R Day




=


On Sunday, 25 October 2015, 2:46, WFO Her= b via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
=


What happens when you 'idle it up= ' (adjust idle screw)?  Perhaps it's just set too low to idle.
What psi range does the pump run?  1.5 to 3= .5 is good for these carbs, right.

= Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets?
<= div>
N= o vacuum leaks...right?

Herb <= /div>



On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean v= ia Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
   &nbs= p; Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.  Could not get it to = idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.  I recently = had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after= leaving it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.  I= installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constan= tly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gaug= e it had at least a 1/4 tank left.  As long as I kept my foot in it an= d did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.  That new 1275 tha= t I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.  I was = going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and instal= l), but I got it running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling = the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.  I thought I cleaned the fu= el system out of the ethanol.  It ran great for a while. It did die a = couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to k= eep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it running.  I hate= this Kalifornia gas.
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They keep right o= n banging along. It's not a "tick" like an SU pump either - very annoying. Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:54 AM, GUY DAY via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > Michael, you have had suggestions of:- > Float adjustment > Fuel Pressure > Idle screw adjustment > Semi blocked or blocked lines (add filters) > Vacuum leaks >=20 > Just to round things off I'll add=20 > ignition timing. > Dashpot oil > Clogged up poppet valve >=20 > As it was running after you cleared the fuel lines last time and the pump s= ounds to be running at all times it raises the question of where is all tha= t pumped fuel going to? This may suggest a problem with the float operated s= hut off valve. Were fuel lines blocked the pump would stop running as it wou= ld be up to pressure. =20 > It is obviously something that has happened fairly quickly as it is presum= ed it happened during the journey and it was ticking over OK (albeit with th= e choke on) when you left the house. As it runs OK at higher revs this may s= uggest it is NOT a blockage problem. =20 >=20 > Guy R Day >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sunday, 25 October 2015, 2:46, WFO Herb via Spridgets wrote: >=20 >=20 > What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle screw)? Perhaps it's just= set too low to idle. >=20 > What psi range does the pump run? 1.5 to 3.5 is good for these carbs, rig= ht. >=20 > Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets? >=20 > No vacuum leaks...right? >=20 > Herb=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight. Could not get it to id= le. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die. I recently had a pr= oblem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving i= t sit in the garage for a few months without starting it. I installed a new= Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me lik= e the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a= 1/4 tank left. As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, i= t ran like a scalded cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand mil= es ago is finally breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I hav= e a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining th= e old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free ga= s. I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol. It ran great fo= r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and woul= d idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it= running. I hate this Kalifornia gas. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/froggi= 60@gmail.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > The only people worth getting even with are those who have helped you. - A= nonymous >=20 > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you f= orward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which incl= udes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish t= o have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history h= elps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagate= d! 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Facet brand pumps don't stop running w= hen up to pressure.  They keep right on banging along.  It's not a= "tick" like an SU pump either - very annoying.

Sent from my keyboard=

On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:54 AM, GUY DAY via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote= :

Michael, y= ou have had suggestions of:-
Float adjustment
Fuel= Pressure
Idle screw adju= stment
= Semi blocked or bl= ocked lines (add filters)
Vacuum leaks

Just to round things off I'll add 
ignition timing.
Dashpot oil
Clogged up poppet valve

As i= t was running after you cleared the fuel lines last time and the pump sounds= to be running at all times it raises the question of  wher= e is all that pumped fuel going to?  This may suggest a problem with th= e float operated shut off valve. Were fuel lines blocked the pump would stop= running as it would be up to pressure.   
It is obviously something that has happened fairly quic= kly as it is presumed it happened during the journey and it was ticking over= OK (albeit with the choke on) when you left the house.  As it runs OK a= t higher revs this may suggest it is NOT a blockage problem.  

Guy R Day





On Sunday, 25 October 20= 15, 2:46, WFO Herb via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:


What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle s= crew)?  Perhaps it's just set too low to idle.

<= /div>
What psi range does the pump run?  1.5 to 3.5 is good for the= se carbs, right.

Chance of rust/junk= in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets?

No vacuum leaks...righ= t?

Herb 



= On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <sprid= gets@autox.team.net> wrote:
     Took the Bugeye out to run an erran= d tonight.  Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the= gas it would die.  I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the ga= s plugging up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few m= onths without starting it.  I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I ca= n hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty= , but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left.  As l= ong as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded= cat.  That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is final= ly breaking in.  I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new on= e ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old etha= nol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.  I= thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.  It ran great fo= r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and woul= d idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it= running.  I hate this Kalifornia gas.
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Some Facet pumps do run all the time and sound like it - simply a fac= t of=20 its design.
 
Have you adjusted the idle screw?
 
What idle rpm are you expecting?
 
Is the vacuum advance on the distributor compatible with a single car= b=20 installation (rather than twin carbs on a twin carb manifold).
 
Regards
 
 
Daniel
 
In a message dated 24/10/2015 17:42:38 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:

Since the fue= l pump=20 is constantly running, I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is flooding out at idl= e.=20

Look at your= spark=20 plugs.

If they=E2=80= =99re not wet or=20 sooted up, look for a loose carb at the intake manifold.  Bill in= =20 Oregon


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Sent: Satur= day,=20 October 24, 2015 1:28 AM
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     Took th= e Bugeye=20 out to run an errand tonight.  Could not get it to idle. As soon as= I=20 took my foot off the gas it would die.  I recently had a problem wi= th the=20 ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving it sit in= the=20 garage for a few months without starting it.  I installed a new Fac= et=20 fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me like= the=20 tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a= 1/4=20 tank left.  As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhe= re, it=20 ran like a scalded cat.  That new 1275 that I installed a few thous= and=20 miles ago is finally breaking in.  I was going to replace the fuel= tank.=20 (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by= =20 draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane= =20 ethanol free gas.  I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the= =20 ethanol.  It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times,= but=20 started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the th= rottle=20 at the stop light to keep it running.  I hate this Kalifornia=20 gas.

M= ike=20 MacLean

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--part1_132520.1dfb162d.435e3662_boundary-- --===============4551118117094360628== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4551118117094360628==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 07:49:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B9A2585E86 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 07:49:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-a002e.mx.aol.com (omr-a002e.mx.aol.com [204.29.186.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46FC25859CB for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 07:44:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcc01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcc01.mx.aol.com [172.26.253.85]) by omr-a002e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1944B380018C; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-aoa05g.mail.aol.com (core-aoa05.mail.aol.com [172.27.23.15]) by mtaomg-mcc01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CB4DA38000084; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:45:38 -0400 To: corvallis@peoplepc.com, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1445780739; bh=Q0/iRtv1LZ/a71PhIuP7w+R7iIaYF010NTk2VbXVpdI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=052z298xDx9b8SDKy3S1BmxOH5icAcsgUmS/zyp/j1fSCFl9/3cBL1afmh/ltSOdo InM76KEX9Fv/7YSA6y0A040QNBIJkHL80qg70pMM+qcwrBrw9/xMk3WpVdp5nFmSOI APIhSwpjPUUb3TxE2e1EBDp24gcY4Ft+YtHqkHU0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afd55562cdd024964 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: WeslakeMonza1330--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2606941522072692340== --part1_132653.7878031e.435e3702_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Yep, on a lot of Facet pumps you need to also run a pressure regulator but= =20 if the carb is dieing rather than idling I doubt that's the problem. =20 Remember if the car runs fuel air ratio from between 11:1 and 18:1 it can= cope =20 with 5:1 when the choke is out and the engine is cold but doesn't die on= =20 idle. =20 Regards =20 =20 Daniel =20 =20 In a message dated 25/10/2015 01:01:38 GMT Standard Time, =20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes: Check the fuel pressure. There are different =E2=80=98sizes=E2=80=99 of= electronic fuel=20 pumps for engines; higher volume for larger engines may mean too much=20 pressure for a 4-banger. Bill in Oregon --part1_132653.7878031e.435e3702_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
Yep, on a lot of Facet pumps you need to also run a pressure regulato= r but=20 if the carb is dieing rather than idling I doubt that's the problem. = =20 Remember if the car runs fuel air ratio from between 11:1 and 18:1 it can= cope=20 with 5:1 when the choke is out and the engine is cold but doesn't die on= =20 idle.
 
Regards
 
 
Daniel
 
In a message dated 25/10/2015 01:01:38 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:

Check the fue= l=20 pressure. There are different =E2=80=98sizes=E2=80=99 of electronic fuel= pumps for engines;=20 higher volume for larger engines may mean too much pressure for a=20 4-banger.  Bill in Oregon

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Facet pumps do run at all times  and are noisy.  I've conne= cted a=20 pressure gauge to a regulator, fed with a Facet pump and with NO OUTLET fo= r the=20 fuel and the pump sounds just the same as when the engine is running. = ;=20
 
A facet pump will run faster when its pumping a vast amount of fuel= (like=20 pumping out the fuel tank to a jerry can for example) than when the engine= is=20 running normal.
 
Regards
 
 
Daniel
 
In a message dated 25/10/2015 09:02:00 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:
and the pump sounds to be running at all times it= raises=20 the question of  where is all that pumped fuel going=20 to?
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-0400 To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 10:42:22 -0700 Thread-Index: AdEPS4zShYqf3NgyTkOZ2n9IgQjXigAAG+hA Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: corvallis--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1903505661643213768== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01D10F11.D56CE800" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01D10F11.D56CE800 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blue smoke: Rings take time to seat in; maybe google the subject for a quick read. An intermittent problem (dying at idle) can be the worst to trouble shoot; be mentally ready. Bill in Oregon _____ From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer.mike via Spridgets Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 10:26 AM To: David Ambrose; spridgets@autox.team.net Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle As I said, the next day the car ran normal. Go figure. The vacuum advance line was still intact. Everything is mounted tightly. You tell me why it decided to do this just one time. My only other concern is constant blue smoke from the tail pipe on a relatively new engine. Have to find out if is rings or valve guide seals. Gerard built the short block and knowing his meticulous building skill, I am leaning towards the valve seals/guides. Why couldn't I be into 240 Z cars or Porsche instead of these quirky loveable Brit cars? Mike MacLean ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01D10F11.D56CE800 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Blue smoke: Rings take time to seat = in; maybe google the subject for a quick read.

An intermittent problem (dying at = idle) can be the worst to trouble shoot; be mentally ready. Bill in Oregon


From: = Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer.mike via Spridgets
Sent: Sunday, October 25, = 2015 10:26 AM
To: David Ambrose; = spridgets@autox.team.net
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] = Won't Idle

 

     As I said, the next day the car ran normal. = Go figure.  The vacuum advance line was still intact.  Everything = is mounted tightly.  You tell me why it decided to do this just one = time.       My only other concern is constant blue smoke from = the tail pipe on a relatively new engine.  Have to find out if is rings or = valve guide seals.  Gerard built the short block and knowing his = meticulous building skill, I am leaning towards the valve seals/guides. =  

     Why couldn't I be into 240 Z cars or Porsche instead of these quirky loveable Brit cars?

Mike MacLean

 

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inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7276668671499701919==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 17:40:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5A72585930 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 17:40:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6A625856DA for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 17:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.170.132.228] (helo=spider) by smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ZqUui-0003pa-PL for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 19:41:25 -0400 To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 16:41:20 -0700 Thread-Index: AdEPd9kzwTUCBn9PTYe5r+/PULK2FQABrr0g Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: corvallis--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1317954641414382817== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01D10F43.FAA9EA00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01D10F43.FAA9EA00 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm _____ From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer.mike via Spridgets Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 3:50 PM To: Bill L; spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle That sounds about right. How long does it usually take to seat rings? Mike MacLean Sent via the Samsung GALAXY SR 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01D10F43.FAA9EA00 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://www.ntnoa.org/engi= nebreakin.htm


From: = Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer.mike via Spridgets
Sent: Sunday, October 25, = 2015 3:50 PM
To: Bill L; = spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] = Won't Idle

 

That sounds about right.  How long does it usually take to = seat rings?

Mike MacLean

 

 

 

Sent via the Samsung GALAXY = S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone



------=_NextPart_000_001D_01D10F43.FAA9EA00-- --===============1317954641414382817== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1317954641414382817==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 12:50:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F5425850CB for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:50:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo101.cox.net (eastrmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB72E2584F87 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20151027185057.PTDE6625.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:50:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([98.161.59.133]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id aJqw1r00S2sUWTm01JqxcM; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:50:57 -0400 a=Yr9gTcO+oD8Gu1YXpZj4MA==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=DjXDa2klYwfChY7p_8kA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Yr9gTcO+oD8Gu1YXpZj4MA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none To: Spridget list Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:50:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 Subject: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines From: John O'Brien via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Spridget List: I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have any value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny. I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? Thanks John O'Brien '61 bugeye "Lucy" '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 13:08:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C0325850A6 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8928A258509A for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:08:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wijp11 with SMTP id p11so228586182wij.0 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:08:54 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4gazlD7WatDRxNHnnAzz9vkSckyH+N1ykPKIDAZf4Bk=; b=ddYfP5Ld7xgOXoW2a9oGNxMcYWJeELZ7V1//9NbNH+wGugw3MvKthgAUDL5ah4H0wF +Xp2C1q3cuoAEGVpQXpz8hTRzPR5sKx89vb1J63uL1VsqfAaauHLoEgma9NxP5hbcs1H EIVTt0q3i32PlB+djXsIWcZzBX4qjYN5BrweXvSzhvMv8oflqXvbbCX61Ak+8HRKMBst 0NQe5K8KAE/vYbkYXiWw23SXHOSb78kgDfQ4g3ix3+xYHF96iDb43I01/pJl4AABVWCD hwBgTNijeCg6A1dV9qAyJfXDhBh2cmZVJOKYEJDzoPur2fW4oK484v+XxhixMRWY/pVQ bi4w== Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.108.23 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:08:54 -0700 (PDT) References: <562FC791.6070603@cox.net> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:08:54 -0500 To: "John O'Brien" Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines From: derf via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5105965670691717710== --047d7bea3792190e5405231acf93 Someone would want them. I don't think there's much profit to be made. Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty? On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets < spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi Spridget List: > I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think > it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have > any value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in > Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny. > I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. > It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it > with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple > external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but > no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What should it > be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? > > Thanks > John O'Brien > '61 bugeye "Lucy" > '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247@gmail.com > --047d7bea3792190e5405231acf93 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Someone would want them.=C2=A0 I don't think there'= ;s much profit to be made.=C2=A0 Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trad= e them for something nifty?

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'= Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:=
Hi Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape.=C2=A0 I thin= k it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc.=C2=A0 Does this en= gine have any value to anyone?=C2=A0 if so, what would it be worth?=C2=A0 I= t is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it.=C2= =A0 It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand.=C2=A0 I replac= ed it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space.=C2=A0 It is missing = a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold a= lso, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location,=C2=A0 W= hat should it be worth?=C2=A0 Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
John O'Brien
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
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--047d7bea3792190e5405231acf93-- --===============5105965670691717710== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5105965670691717710==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 13:09:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B241258546B for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:09:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F7025850BB for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:09:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-2f14ccc0.dyn.optonline.net [47.20.204.192]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0NWW004VJ7X02FD0@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:09:44 -0400 To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Backwards battery From: Michael Rowe via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1752854693922822848== boundary="Boundary_(ID_fJn6waHETrloRRLUm4LuCQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_fJn6waHETrloRRLUm4LuCQ) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Even more weird: As I mentioned, I have been away for three months and don't remember what I did before. I have checked the wiring converting from generator to alternator, which appears to agree with instructions. Here is a repeatable sequence: 1. Battery tests normal. Ignition switch tests normal. Red light indicates power out from + terminal to ground at engine. 2. Close battery cut-off switch (on + terminal). All circuits test normal all the way to the ignition switch input. 3. Engage ignition switch. Pump and interior lights go on briefly, then die = something heating up. 4. Now, there is no power anywhere at the switch. 5. Battery shows no power out from the + terminal, green test light shows power in at the - terminal from ground at engine to ground at battery. 6. All returns to the original condition when it cools. 7. I assume this is a short to ground problem somewhere. Where is this backflow coming from? !@#$%^ Michael Rowe --Boundary_(ID_fJn6waHETrloRRLUm4LuCQ) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Even more weird:
As I mentioned, I have been away for three months and don't remember what I did before.  I have checked the wiring converting from generator to alternator, which appears to agree with instructions.  Here is a repeatable sequence:
 
1.  Battery tests normal.  Ignition switch tests normal.  Red light indicates power out from + terminal to ground at engine.
2.  Close battery cut-off switch (on + terminal).  All circuits test normal all the way to the ignition switch input.
3.  Engage ignition switch.  Pump and interior lights go on briefly, then die = something heating up.
4.  Now, there is no power anywhere at the switch.
5.  Battery shows no power out from the + terminal, green test light shows power in at the - terminal from ground at engine  to ground at battery. 
6.  All returns to the original condition when it cools.
7.  I assume this is a short to ground problem somewhere.  Where is this backflow coming from?
 
Michael Rowe
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I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss o= n anyone's Wheaties, but that sounds like many of the parts I've given away o= ver the past few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from m= e, I donated an engine stand as well. 

Ron Soave

Pay it forward=
It only goes one way


On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via S= pridgets <spridgets@autox.tea= m.net> wrote:

Someone would want them.  I don't think there's much profit to be= made.  Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something n= ifty?


On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets <= spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape.  I think= it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc.  Does this engine h= ave any value to anyone?  if so, what would it be worth?  It is lo= cated in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. = ; It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand.  I replaced i= t with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space.  It is missing a cou= ple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, b= ut no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location,  What sho= uld it be worth?  Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
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I had two 1098s and = it took me several years to give them away.
 
jay


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To: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
Cc: Spridget list <spridgets@autox.te= am.net>
Sent:= Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines
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I agree, Derf. I didn't want t= o piss on anyone's Wheaties, but that sounds like many of the parts I've gi= ven away over the past few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 h= eads from me, I donated an engine stand as well. 
Ron Soave

Pay i= t forward
It only goes one= way




On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Sprid= gets <spr= idgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

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Someone would want the= m.  I don't think there's much profit to be made.  Maybe donate t= hem to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty?


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On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Jo= hn O'Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi = Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape.  I thin= k it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc.  Does this engine= have any value to anyone?  if so, what would it be worth?  It is= located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it.&nbs= p; It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand.  I replace= d it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space.  It is missing a= couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold al= so, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location,  Wh= at should it be worth?  Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
John O'Brien
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'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
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I thought that might be the case. I'll figure out something. I just hate to scrap them if someone could get some good out of them. I'll put a call out to the local club (probably should have done that first) If I don't get any takers, they may be scrapyard bound. John '61 bugeye "Lucy" '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" On 10/27/2015 2:29 PM, Jay via Spridgets wrote: > I had two 1098s and it took me several years to give them away. > jay > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Ron Soave via Spridgets > *To:* derf > *Cc:* Spridget list > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines > > I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss on anyone's Wheaties, but > that sounds like many of the parts I've given away over the past > few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from me, > I donated an engine stand as well. > > Ron Soave > > Pay it forward > It only goes one way > > > > > On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Spridgets > >> Someone would want them. I don't think there's much profit to be >> made. Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for >> something nifty? >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets >> wrote: >> >> Hi Spridget List: >> I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough >> shape. I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty >> etc. Does this engine have any value to anyone? if so, what >> would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also >> has the smoothcase tranny. >> I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I >> bought it. It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by >> hand. I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking >> up space. It is missing a couple external parts but is >> mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. >> set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What >> should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? >> >> Thanks >> John O'Brien >> '61 bugeye "Lucy" >> '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" >> ------------------------ >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247@gmail.com >> >> >> ------------------------ >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero@yahoo.com > > ------------------------ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jfishbein@snet.net > > > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/archive > Forums:http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/banjojohn@cox.net --------------060100070101010205010702 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Okay, thanks for the input.  I thought that might be the case.  I'll figure out something.  I just hate to scrap them if someone could get some good out of them.  I'll put a call out to the local club (probably should have done that first)  If I don't get any takers, they may be scrapyard bound.
John
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'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"

On 10/27/2015 2:29 PM, Jay via Spridgets wrote:
I had two 1098s and it took me several years to give them away.
 
jay


From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
To: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
Cc: Spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines

I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss on anyone's Wheaties, but that sounds like many of the parts I've given away over the past few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from me, I donated an engine stand as well. 

Ron Soave

Pay it forward
It only goes one way




On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Someone would want them.  I don't think there's much profit to be made.  Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty?


On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape.  I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc.  Does this engine have any value to anyone?  if so, what would it be worth?  It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it.  It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand.  I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space.  It is missing a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location,  What should it be worth?  Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
John O'Brien
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'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
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Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII with 1275 (and 948 in storage...) -----Original Message----- From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John O'Brien via Spridgets Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 2:51 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines Hi Spridget List: I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have any value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny. I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? Thanks John O'Brien '61 bugeye "Lucy" '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/d.swanson@earthlink.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 19:40:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85057258551B for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:40:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f51.google.com (mail-oi0-f51.google.com [209.85.218.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B4D2585159 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:40:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by oiao187 with SMTP id o187so131450951oia.3 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:15 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=DpY0gV48moPcbUpifce6vqljgh06kPA7X9w1gNB1HFA=; b=Ly/2GVF9NQC6C1tmh459viBG8e75DaATbzA+NkjbipeGwHnDTdapuD6Dx0vomuIz1H BBXU9sOILnlEK1IXdw2qe5gWnnkgpcHVg+QxgiKfXLbLwPN6qLx46VSlwYmyANci9bi7 Uq9g1vekPekpljgzMjolOyTVKu0TeDECw8iqrB5KpH25PbJVRgd8hooYR9qqmfYwtEqK wXXf5Id/I/cj4T8i4huBwEOuJJMKqCytHShjpk4FVrUd2aCC6KYhSSGAEEOh3j7Eqxvv 8iwa+Id0id6xmsjIu6tgziksn5FpHYjZ3BGgmFLLB7C9OfKdlFBY45piteMQ4go6xKje +18A== Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:cfb4:1cd0:ccac:9fa0:da48:d8ad? ([2602:306:cfb4:1cd0:ccac:9fa0:da48:d8ad]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r124sm1887179oia.24.2015.10.27.18.41.14 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:13 -0700 References: <562FFFF5.6050508@cox.net> To: John O'Brien , Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines From: daredelvis--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0474043976947544720== boundary=Apple-Mail-D9DED8F4-B362-4632-937A-DFD82566D29C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-D9DED8F4-B362-4632-937A-DFD82566D29C charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1098 heads can be desirable. 12G295 casting can bring some money on eBay.=20= Brian > On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:51 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > Okay, thanks for the input. I thought that might be the case. I'll figur= e out something. I just hate to scrap them if someone could get some good o= ut of them. I'll put a call out to the local club (probably should have don= e that first) If I don't get any takers, they may be scrapyard bound. > John > '61 bugeye "Lucy" > '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" >=20 >> On 10/27/2015 2:29 PM, Jay via Spridgets wrote: >> I had two 1098s and it took me several years to give them away. >> =20 >> jay >>=20 >> From: Ron Soave via Spridgets >> To: derf =20 >> Cc: Spridget list =20 >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines >>=20 >> I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss on anyone's Wheaties, but that sound= s like many of the parts I've given away over the past few years. To one hea= rty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from me, I donated an engine stand as we= ll.=20 >>=20 >> Ron Soave >>=20 >> Pay it forward >> It only goes one way >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >>> Someone would want them. I don't think there's much profit to be made. = Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets wrote: >>> Hi Spridget List: >>> I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think i= t's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have any= value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue= , NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny. >>> I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. = It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it wit= h a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple extern= al parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb= . set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same lo= cation, What should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? >>>=20 >>> Thanks >>> John O'Brien >>> '61 bugeye "Lucy" >>> '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" >>> ------------------------ >>>=20 >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>>=20 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf= 247@gmail.com >>> ------------------------ >>>=20 >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>>=20 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soav= ero@yahoo.com >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jfish= bein@snet.net >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/banjo= john@cox.net >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/darede= lvis@gmail.com --Apple-Mail-D9DED8F4-B362-4632-937A-DFD82566D29C charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
1098 heads can be desirable. 12G295 casting can bring some money on eBay. 
Brian



On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:51 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Okay, thanks for the input.  I thought that might be the case.  I'll figure out something.  I just hate to scrap them if someone could get some good out of them.  I'll put a call out to the local club (probably should have done that first)  If I don't get any takers, they may be scrapyard bound.
John
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"

On 10/27/2015 2:29 PM, Jay via Spridgets wrote:
I had two 1098s and it took me several years to give them away.
 
jay


From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
To: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
Cc: Spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines

I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss on anyone's Wheaties, but that sounds like many of the parts I've given away over the past few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from me, I donated an engine stand as well. 

Ron Soave

Pay it forward
It only goes one way




On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Someone would want them.  I don't think there's much profit to be made.  Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty?


On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape.  I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc.  Does this engine have any value to anyone?  if so, what would it be worth?  It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it.  It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand.  I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space.  It is missing a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location,  What should it be worth?  Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
John O'Brien
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
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List,
 
I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no matter what I try.
 
Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares?
 
Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?
 
Ed Woods
------=_Part_10424922_1155249347.1446000137742-- --===============8616337064970179907== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8616337064970179907==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 04:58:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601E425858E8 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 04:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.127]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979792584B56 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 04:58:26 -0600 (MDT) t=1446029955; bh=3KWbp12aemqnfoKhrPEKkFnZ8LWiSMIi4mmjuvX9/oM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=HYCxuIFHSpRpmge1kcZPEZ+GR8lhJuzPMeB0U3Rt8jxmnpbV2FaLOdRIOe/Iol2voKySNVCr+NqNMsgu1cD3zxgGI3ZDccp4A5OYH9x6jc/H4KffalEWQVOO32ND5kFgP3HvbWVfc9+mkuLZxkDEwaYPmKJ8veDBobQyeuB6JeoB1llYqqUE8y1Tjaws9FoJChFxAVHihqbkNwrYpmVpU2iNsP+PRbaJSeNWAFQUKevDau9gJy8o2ObyGdKlhxAmEKQEMO4sB5Ix5KMEa7+2tLwO1aHIvx1G/4dboXLkeV8nVLIvxnV9Prqzjzy/USFjARcm7kdn0Yn6dezzj+zjHw== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm40.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:59:15 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.57] by nm40.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:56:22 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.125] by tm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:56:22 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.72] by tm18.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:56:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:56:21 -0000 gqTrJJ1HD2Ws6AtU.b1fiYtQdILnQGk17uVbNxD58k._OxW7Qx6Wi48Jm9kMPyY3OkavoUVb7Oba umHMS5rusKseBcKYlbJuxvaQse8BKK5ETxLmOybkbgxTjBMXrO_.emGpLW12SKFfC_zOJLImjzfu z82KoSQZtatgjN1dBrHIb2z2VTfwQqT96eE6nvhSIFsQNQBZMtQhhYRqcQwgCogTqe1zVhrayEnK cRgRTSKy9vdCb4GxKUZMeyes_vcGMrkd9CEDSEN3dxQ6saPQ8c_hf3ont_C5NJuqDEteWOV9r0kE rmtnD7v1ecPPSPxUTY8dAgojkobOVIKyesTewmDImy5xaEZvKEoNbYVJteRmQ8u_eYet41_o8m5v 7N2Na5X1gQygAGoD2s1Dlgi5DKu3k4PEJT.twVKy9bmbMACo9oGPBVPGU.MszmBJkWQjDAYFPj5Z tRZtUzx34b6IgCjOl9i6RN.JyBWnH Received: by 212.82.98.122; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:56:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:55:04 +0000 (UTC) To: EDWARD , Spridgets References: <119264246.10424923.1446000137743.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: GUY DAY via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3929665388125255982== boundary="----=_Part_6255586_1007001366.1446029704799" ------=_Part_6255586_1007001366.1446029704799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EdwardI have never heard of 'universal flares'. =C2=A0Pipe end flares are e= ither either a dome shape (male or single flare) or a funnel shape (female = or double flare). To place it in the context most will understand it requir= es opposite sexes to seat correctly. =C2=A0Next are the nuts that hold them= together, if you have the correct threads for these they SHOULD be OK. =C2= =A0(There are 4 or 5 threads in circulation with the main split in more mod= ern vehicles being Metric or UNF) =C2=A0They should turn fairly resistance = free by hand upto the last tightening spanner turn. =C2=A0If a male nut on = the pipe you MAY find this nut is not long enough as there is a small unthr= eaded portion at the start of the male nuts and this can be in different le= ngths. =C2=A0If you tighten the nut up by hand this should stop any back an= d forth movement of the pipe, if there is movement, the unthreaded bit of t= he nut is not long enough. =C2=A0The inner part of this nut contains a tape= r to seat and push on the pipe end to help make the joint. =C2=A0The nut do= es not provide the seal, this comes from the pipe flare the nut pushes.=C2= =A0There are other minor differences (but ones you should be aware of) in t= he angle of the flare dependant on the former =C2=A0that made the flare and= it COULD be you are experiencing a mis-match problem but Kunifer (copper-n= ickel) pipes are normally soft enough to overcome this and will deform and = seal. =C2=A0This very rare.=C2=A0Other problems could well be dirt in the f= itting or deformed (crossed) threads cocking the nut over slightly. =C2=A0W= hatever else you try, DO NOT use teflon or other sealing tape, =C2=A0'O' ri= ngs or any other kind of washer. =C2=A0It may be you have to cut the flare = off, then source a different nut or have a different flare at the pipe end.= =C2=A0If they don't seal when dry there is usually something you can see v= isibly wrong.Ring the pipe supplier to ask for help to see if he has any th= oughts, but please don't ring him saying he has supplied the wrong end - he= may well have - but the difference between asking for help and laying imme= diate blame can sometimes be the difference between having a new set f.o.c.= or having to return the old pipe etc.... Best of luck Guy R Day=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=20 On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 2:42, EDWARD via Spridgets wrote: =20 =20 List,=C2=A0I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, = no matter what I try.=C2=A0Anyone with similar experience with these "unive= rsal" flares?=C2=A0Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?=C2=A0Ed Woo= ds ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive tinternet.com ------=_Part_6255586_1007001366.1446029704799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Edward
I have never heard of 'unive= rsal flares'.  Pipe end flares are either either a dome shape (male or= single flare) or a funnel shape (female or double flare). To place it in t= he context most will understand it requires opposite sexes to seat correctl= y.  Next are the nuts that hold them together, if you have the correct= threads for these they SHOULD be OK.  (There are 4 or 5 threads in ci= rculation with the main split in more modern vehicles being Metric or UNF) =  They should turn fairly resistance free by hand upto the last tighten= ing spanner turn.  If a male nut on the pipe you MAY find this nut is = not long enough as there is a small unthreaded portion at the start of the = male nuts and this can be in different lengths.  If you tighten the nu= t up by hand this should stop any back and forth movement of the pipe, if t= here is movement, the unthreaded bit of the nut is not long enough.  T= he inner part of this nut contains a taper to seat and push on the pipe end= to help make the joint.  The nut does not provide the seal, this come= s from the pipe flare the nut pushes. 
There are other minor differences (but ones you should be aware of) = in the angle of the flare dependant on the former  that made the flare= and it COULD be you are experiencing a mis-match problem but Kunifer (copp= er-nickel) pipes are normally soft enough to overcome this and will deform = and seal.  This very rare. 
Other problems could well be dirt in the fitting or deformed (crossed) thr= eads cocking the nut over slightly.  Whatever else you try, DO NOT use= teflon or other sealing tape,  'O' rings or any other kind of washer.=  It may be you have to cut the flare off, then source a different nut= or have a different flare at the pipe end.  If they don't seal when d= ry there is usually something you can see visibly wrong.
Ring the pipe supplier to ask for help to see if he has= any thoughts, but please don't ring him saying he has supplied the wrong e= nd - he may well have - but the difference between asking for help and layi= ng immediate blame can sometimes be the difference between having a new set= f.o.c. or having to return the old pipe etc....

Best of luck

=
Guy R D= ay
 
     
=


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On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 2:42, EDWARD via Spr= idgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:


=

List,
 
I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no mat= ter what I try.
 
Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares?
 
Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?
 
Ed Woods

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------=_Part_6255586_1007001366.1446029704799-- --===============3929665388125255982== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3929665388125255982==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 07:21:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C052585DE0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:21:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [64.8.71.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A102585C33 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:18:02 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=uCBERc07VDBTMRy7CDVnJQ==:117 a=uCBERc07VDBTMRy7CDVnJQ==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=DA-v0VzzAAAA:8 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=zVvH5H-QAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=okqsAaUGv6KYfjVG6OEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=1p06z6WMduAge3V0aEIA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=6UIaq3Bcl8oA:10 a=1TM7i2lP1nUA:10 X_CMAE_Category: , , Authentication-Results: smtp02.wow.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=cmlove@knology.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [207.98.251.103] ([207.98.251.103:52068] helo=DA26075) by smtp.knology.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.1.42806 r(Platform:3.6.1.1)) with ESMTPA id 8C/12-12646-B3BC0365; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:18:51 -0400 To: "'EDWARD'" References: <254608163.10424415.1446000016619.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <119264246.10424923.1446000137743.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:18:51 -0500 Thread-Index: AQEgzi2YBdtF/W8ZNDc9soI5RcY4rZ/haSCA Content-Language: en-us Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: Monty Love via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============4748293119441110431== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01D11159.47622170" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01D11159.47622170 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have installed a set on my 73 Midget. They do not leak. I had a = problem on one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did = not install it correctly. =20 I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSImports.com. I really liked = the fact that I could shape them with my hands. I took the old ones and = used them for patterns for the shape and they worked great! =20 Monty Love Back on the road after 11 years of restoration!! =20 From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = EDWARD via Spridgets Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe =20 List, =20 I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no = matter what I try. =20 Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares? =20 Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully? =20 Ed Woods ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01D11159.47622170 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have installed a set on my 73 = Midget.=C2=A0 They do not = leak.=C2=A0 I had a problem on = one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did not install = it correctly.

 

I believe I got this set from = Paul at NOSImports.com.=C2=A0 I = really liked the fact that I could shape them with my hands.=C2=A0 I took the old ones and used = them for patterns for the shape and they worked = great!

 

Monty = Love

Back on the road after 11 years = of restoration!!

 

From: Spridgets = [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EDWARD via = Spridgets
Sent: = Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM
To: Spridgets = <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake = pipe

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>
List,

 

I've installed a complete set on = my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no matter what I = try.

 

Anyone with similar experience = with these "universal" = flares?

 

Anyone installed a Cunifer set = successfully?

 

Ed = Woods

------=_NextPart_000_0056_01D11159.47622170-- --===============4748293119441110431== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4748293119441110431==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 07:37:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46282585EA9 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:37:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE472585DD0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-2f14ccc0.dyn.optonline.net [47.20.204.192]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0NWX00HIAN0E2XY0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:33:19 -0400 To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Backwards Battery From: Michael Rowe via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6549131716179149320== boundary="Boundary_(ID_g8kkRBPGNFJl8b764LvI3g)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_g8kkRBPGNFJl8b764LvI3g) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Forget all the test I mentioned. How can a battery run backwards, with negative voltage at the ground terminal and no voltage at the positive terminal? Michael Rowe --Boundary_(ID_g8kkRBPGNFJl8b764LvI3g) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Forget all the test I mentioned.
How can a battery run backwards, with negative voltage at the ground terminal and no voltage at the positive terminal?
 
Michael Rowe
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On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Monty L= ove via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

I have installed a set on my 73 Midget.=C2=A0 They do not leak.=C2=A0 I had a problem on on= e rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did not install it cor= rectly.

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I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSIm= ports.com.=C2=A0 I really liked the fact that I could shape th= em with my hands.=C2=A0 I took the old ones and used them for = patterns for the shape and they worked great!

=C2=A0

Monty= Love

Back on the road after = 11 years of restoration!!

= =C2=A0

= From:= Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.te= am.net] On Behalf Of EDW= ARD via Spridgets
Sent: T= uesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM
To:= Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe<= /span>

=C2=A0


List,

=C2=A0

I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions= leak, no matter what I try.

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= Anyone with simi= lar experience with these "universal" flares?

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= Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?

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= Ed Woods


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--001a11c33f7a15245605232b6dd7-- --===============1720209472161755978== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1720209472161755978==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 13:53:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7778F2585A6F for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:53:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CF625851A9 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:52:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.106]) by resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id ajsR1r0082JGN3p01jsxiq; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 19:52:57 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:3c8:100:4900:d5cf:f3e4:bdea:c085] ([IPv6:2601:3c8:100:4900:d5cf:f3e4:bdea:c085]) by resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id ajsw1r00S4GRzgr01jsxse; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 19:52:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:52:55 -0500 References: <254608163.10424415.1446000016619.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <119264246.10424923.1446000137743.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <005501d11183$303431d0$909c9570$@knology.net> To: Spridgets s=q20140121; t=1446061977; bh=B1J3Omd8kSpCJMXu4liwget2NPnAobD+8BswA6WWRBA=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Mime-Version: Subject:Date:To; b=f1HwWnffHmBILwcT5Gk1lfRMzFwT2MCQE66Oe4Hxgxma5patfxpNRV+EDL0xk6I4t /USvbH893IYESNqBNSIdjvbRTrqBADWV4nZ2i9hxbFIMTAe24Xo3E8jEya/n7eItAV LZkgDaycZlM2lrlbaLJMyLKhr01/7p5w/Yr4rAyGKbG9AI9O6cGeBylEcFg8l3gTn3 7GAjZDZNB9rlQGZAGYhB9ZJzcP+28hpC9eQC3nJ0Vi2xAUBj4oF8bNXUfVCquJkrQl zKmSIZphnAmFrEFynK/1Ou8S/5TkjPsqphUiUHLsuRrCRafRBUEQrXcaBqb/4C+WTn Kbb7Jsk2uG4yQ== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: Ewing via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8290260316031372175== --Apple-Mail=_5601CCE5-3A2C-4D5A-8E5C-FA36E312621F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I went through Fedhill. I made and have installed a set on the Bugeye = and the Jag. No problems. But I did spend the cash for the good = flaring tool. While it is possible to get a good flare (or double flare = or bubble flare ) with the one hand tool there is nothing as simple and = as accurate as a good brake flaring tool. http://store.fedhillusa.com/flaringtools.aspx Lester On Oct 28, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Monty Love via Spridgets = wrote: > I have installed a set on my 73 Midget. They do not leak. I had a = problem on one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did = not install it correctly. > =20 > I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSImports.com. I really liked = the fact that I could shape them with my hands. I took the old ones and = used them for patterns for the shape and they worked great! > =20 > Monty Love > Back on the road after 11 years of restoration!! > =20 > From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = EDWARD via Spridgets > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe > =20 >=20 > List, > =20 > I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no = matter what I try. > =20 > Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares? > =20 > Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully? > =20 > Ed Woods --Apple-Mail=_5601CCE5-3A2C-4D5A-8E5C-FA36E312621F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I went through Fedhill.  I = made and have installed a set on the Bugeye and the Jag.  No = problems.  But I did spend the cash for the good flaring tool. =  While it is possible to get a good flare (or double flare or = bubble flare ) with the one hand tool there is nothing as simple and as = accurate as a good brake flaring tool.


Lester
<= br>

On Oct 28, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Monty Love via = Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> = wrote:

I have installed a set on my 73 = Midget.  They do not = leak.  I had a problem on = one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did not install = it correctly.
 
I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSImports.com.  I really liked the = fact that I could shape them with my hands.  I took the old ones = and used them for patterns for the shape and they worked = great!
 
Monty Love
Back on the road after 11 years = of restoration!!
 
<= /div>
= --Apple-Mail=_5601CCE5-3A2C-4D5A-8E5C-FA36E312621F-- --===============8290260316031372175== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8290260316031372175==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 14:17:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48A925853C9 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f170.google.com (mail-lb0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679BC2585378 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbec13 with SMTP id ec13so14492208lbb.0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=qVJJQIun16gHFAZiodxF++QYjfHAXtxBwh+ztek7370=; b=UqqWBwfLZlv1ONGcnTXNyaAsYsGg9048CBrps9d8TaxSJo3/fBd1icPmqDEoAomgwk JD/5V1ZcGHqTwsgxuZ9vq2gpFikw5HurcXZNCYrMjSQkGyTqV/D4XvhTi5hso9lEfpdF h32h0Uc3r5FXLKbiX1QOgnG6kBZ/lHsa7Uu6PYka0+Kfi9p5DledlLSGu/7EDFFMHqVh uMnFBz3WhqKx8QCcc8QzupD5AVoAFApH4ybAJxEgh+zCemJ2iHbRdMJZIpXhwdCXsGBr Bhu4yQJX/DL/KgptkplNBIBTxb275xRvFqI1EusRBVND1Gs1QRmm24y7rcfcLbfkFfsG nkmA== Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.194.195 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT) References: <254608163.10424415.1446000016619.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <119264246.10424923.1446000137743.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <005501d11183$303431d0$909c9570$@knology.net> <67487604-BB32-4DBF-8F93-0801E81FE6FE@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:17:59 -0500 Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: "bmwwxman . via Spridgets" Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5009949975851742712== --e89a8f23541900ea8505232fe4ab I bought an already made up set from NOSimport - Peter Caldwell. They are already for installation without need to make my own flares. On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Ewing via Spridgets < spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: > I went through Fedhill. I made and have installed a set on the Bugeye and > the Jag. No problems. But I did spend the cash for the good flaring > tool. While it is possible to get a good flare (or double flare or bubble > flare ) with the one hand tool there is nothing as simple and as accurate > as a good brake flaring tool. > > http://store.fedhillusa.com/flaringtools.aspx > > Lester > > > On Oct 28, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Monty Love via Spridgets < > spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: > > I have installed a set on my 73 Midget. They do not leak. I had a > problem on one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did not > install it correctly. > > I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSImports.com. I really liked the > fact that I could shape them with my hands. I took the old ones and used > them for patterns for the shape and they worked great! > > Monty Love > Back on the road after 11 years of restoration!! > > *From:* Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf > Of *EDWARD via Spridgets > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM > *To:* Spridgets > *Subject:* [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe > > > List, > > I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no matter > what I try. > > Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares? > > Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully? > > Ed Woods > > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman@gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology *"Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip."* *Winston Churchill* --e89a8f23541900ea8505232fe4ab Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I bought an already made up set from NOSimport - Peter Cal= dwell.=C2=A0 They are already for installation without need to make my own = flares. =C2=A0
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Michael,
Voltage requires two terminals= .=C2=A0 What are you using to measure this phenomenon, and where are you co= nnecting each test lead?
Hal
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Forget all the test I mentioned.
How can a battery run backwards, with=C2=A0negati= ve=20 voltage=C2=A0at the ground terminal and no voltage at the positive=20 terminal?
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On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Ewing via Spridgets &= lt;spridgets@= autox.team.net> wrote:
I went through Fedhill.=C2=A0 I made and ha= ve installed a set on the Bugeye and the Jag.=C2=A0 No problems.=C2=A0 But = I did spend the cash for the good flaring tool.=C2=A0 While it is possible = to get a good flare (or double flare or bubble flare ) with the one hand to= ol there is nothing as simple and as accurate as a good brake flaring tool.=

http://store.fedhillusa.com/flaringtools.aspx

Lester


On Oct 2= 8, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Monty Love via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote= :

I have installed a set on= my 73 Midget.=C2=A0=C2=A0They do not leak.= =C2=A0=C2=A0I had a problem on one rear junction, but o= n further inspection I found I did not install it correctly.<= /span>
=C2=A0
I believe I go= t this set from Paul at=C2=A0NOSImports.com.=C2=A0=C2=A0I really liked t= he fact that I could shape them with my hands.=C2=A0=C2=A0I took the old ones and used them for patterns for the shape and t= hey worked great!
<= font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=C2=A0
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A guy I know on the = morris group found an excellent application for spare 948 and 1098 assembli= es - they are super at holding down the tent corners at windy parts swaps .= ..

Walt 


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=20 =20
I would keep the engine serial number plate though.
 
In a message dated 27/10/2015 22:51:41 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:
Okay,=20 thanks for the input.  I thought that might be the case.  I'll= =20 figure out something.  I just hate to scrap them if someone could ge= t=20 some good out of them.  I'll put a call out to the local club (proba= bly=20 should have done that first)  If I don't get any takers, they may be= =20 scrapyard bound.
John
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------=_Part_1627751_1489919642.1446161051436-- --===============5968940819223693045== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5968940819223693045==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 07:38:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC185258766E for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E061258766E for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:38:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-2f14ccc0.dyn.optonline.net [47.20.204.192]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0NX100BFVCLJ0PQ0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:39:10 -0400 To: Spridgets References: <714352510.362394.1446065255984.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <6B6DFF6E33A14A09A830368D8D25C712@Home> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Backwards Battery From: Michael Rowe via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8520530168999969101== boundary="Boundary_(ID_ISKoLn11cp1PuQf6WCCjeA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_ISKoLn11cp1PuQf6WCCjeA) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Not full disclosure, but I will say that I got +0.5V out of the cigarette lighter when it was disconnected from all but the dash hole. But there was no voltage from the dash, itself. the most obvious explanation was that its internal components made a battery. Not a lie, but even I am not nutty enough to swallow that one. After solving the problem, I decided to take a celebratory drive in my running Spridget. It has been running fine. In fact, I was pleased that it started right up after sitting three months. Of course, on that day, it would not start - a weak connection at the solenoid, which sounded like a weak battery. Michael Rowe Loose nut on the steering wheel? :-) Sent from my keyboard On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: Do I have to admit what I found wrong? Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net --Boundary_(ID_ISKoLn11cp1PuQf6WCCjeA) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Not full disclosure, but I will say that I got +0.5V out of the cigarette lighter when it was disconnected from all but the dash hole.  But there was no voltage from the dash, itself.  the most obvious explanation was that its internal components made a battery.  Not a lie, but even I am not nutty enough to swallow that one.
 
After solving the problem, I decided to take a celebratory drive in my running Spridget.  It has been running fine.  In fact, I was pleased that it started right up after sitting three months.  Of course, on that day, it would not start - a weak connection at the solenoid, which sounded like a weak battery.
 
Michael Rowe
Loose nut on the steering wheel?    :-)

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On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Do I have to admit what I found wrong? 
 
Michael Rowe
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Did you leave some potatos in the car where they could tur= n into a battery? I never did that one when I was a kid but heard about it.= ..

On Fr= i, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets &l= t;spridgets@a= utox.team.net> wrote:
Not full disclosure, but I will say that I got +0= .5V out=20 of the cigarette lighter when it was disconnected from all but the dash=20 hole.=C2=A0 But there was no voltage from the dash, itself.=C2=A0 the most= =20 obvious explanation was that its internal components made a battery.=C2=A0 = Not=20 a=C2=A0lie, but even I=C2=A0am=C2=A0not nutty enough to swallow that=20 one.
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After solving the problem, I decided to take a ce= lebratory=20 drive in my=C2=A0running Spridget.=C2=A0 It has been running fine.=C2=A0 In= =20 fact, I was pleased that it started right up after sitting three months.=C2= =A0=20 Of course, on that day, it would not start -=C2= =A0a weak=20 connection at the solenoid, which sounded like a weak battery.
=C2=A0
Michael Rowe
Loose nut on the steering wheel? =C2=A0 =C2=A0:-)

Sent from m= y=20 keyboard

On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.t= eam.net>=20 wrote:

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New 1275 engine.
Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only = 0.029 in.
My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be."
Bentley says:
Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) = 0.012 in. cold
                                Running (competition work) = 0.015 in.
                                timing        = 0.029 in.
Online sites agree on  = .012 in. cold.
 
So what is the 0.029 in. for?
 
Michael Rowe
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The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembling the engine.  If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

New 1275 engine.
Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only = 0.029 in.
My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be."
Bentley says:
Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) = 0.012 in. cold
                                Running (competition work) = 0.015 in.
                                timing        = 0.029 in.
Online sites agree on  = .012 in. cold.
 
So what is the 0.029 in. for?
 
Michael Rowe
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To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe=20
Sent: Saturday, October 31, = 2015 4:49=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker = clearance

How about when you have 1.5 = rocker=20 arms?  Drove the Bugeye around yesterday.  Runs great, still = blue=20 smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild.  At leat 1000 miles = since=20 rebuild.  I'm afraid the rings never seated properly.  Not = sure of=20 the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part = of=20 it.
Mike = MacLean



On Saturday, October 31, = 2015 1:26 PM,=20 Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>= =20 wrote:


The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are = assembling the engine.  If your engine is together and you just = want to=20 set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.
Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via = Spridgets=20 <spridgets@autox.team.net&= gt;=20 wrote:

New 1275 engine.
Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only=20 =3D 0.029 in.
My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what = it should=20 be."
Bentley says:
Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D = 0.012 in.=20 cold
       =20             =    =20         Running (competition work) =3D = 0.015=20 in.
          =             &= nbsp;        =20 timing        =3D 0.029 = in.
Online sites agree on  =3D .012 = in.=20 cold.
 
So what is the 0.029 in. for?
 
Michael Rowe
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How about when you have 1.5 rocker ar= ms?  Drove the Bugeye around yesterday.  Runs great, still blue s= moke on acceleration on a recent rebuild.  At leat 1000 miles since re= build.  I'm afraid the rings never seated properly.  Not sure of = the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of i= t.
Mike M= acLean
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On Sat= urday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@auto= x.team.net> wrote:


The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are = assembling the engine.  If your engine is together and you just want t= o set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct = 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> w= rote:

=
= New 1275 engine.
Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D&nb= sp;0.029=20 in.
My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it sh= ould=20 be."
Bentley says:
Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in= .=20 cold
          = ; =20                = =20     Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in.
        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;          =20 timing        =3D 0.029 in.
Online sites agree on  =3D .012 in.=20 cold.
 
So what is the 0.029 in. for?
 
Michael Rowe



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------=_Part_239105_1017906485.1446324593772-- --===============1932785503407113956== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1932785503407113956==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 31 15:53:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700322585BA5 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:53:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mtaout004-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net (mtaout004-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net [68.114.190.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C10B258510A for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:51:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from impout004 ([68.114.189.19]) by mtaout004.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.020.01 201-2473-160) with ESMTP id <20151031215241.WKLT9018.mtaout004.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout004>; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:52:41 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.106] ([71.10.17.119]) by impout004 with charter.net id bxsh1r00E2a8AQ701xsh7p; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:52:41 -0500 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:117 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=jqcs9FJwDGdO61R9nIQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=iqqWnO_qHSo5P0AgMJkA:9 a=R5xqmZMf1p6-6i45:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:52:44 -0400 References: <7A7AC9FC-114F-4A8A-A5FD-E64E2B302659@chartermi.net> <1860081820.239106.1446324593779.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> To: Michael MacLean Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5563014838884628516== boundary=Apple-Mail-0F0E3D4D-4654-436B-B474-77F529F6097C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-0F0E3D4D-4654-436B-B474-77F529F6097C charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That would depend on what the cam and rocker manufacturers say. They usuall= y have a spec to use with their parts. A WAG on my part would be 0.015 in. The valves on my shiny new '72 Midget were set to 0.006 in. One of the many= things I found that explain why the previous owner couldn't get it to run r= ight. :-) Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Michael MacLean wro= te: >=20 > How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterda= y. Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At le= at 1000 miles since rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. N= ot sure of the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that= part of it. > Mike MacLean >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: >=20 >=20 > The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembling= the engine. If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve c= learance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. >=20 > Sent from my keyboard >=20 >> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >=20 > New 1275 engine. > Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D 0.029 in. > My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." > Bentley says: > Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in. cold > Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in. > timing =3D 0.029 in. > Online sites agree on =3D .012 in. cold. > =20 > So what is the 0.029 in. for? > =20 > Michael Rowe >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refis= k@chartermi.net >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengi= neer.mike@att.net >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-0F0E3D4D-4654-436B-B474-77F529F6097C charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That would depend on what the cam and r= ocker manufacturers say.  They usually have a spec to use with their pa= rts.  A WAG on my part would be 0.015 in.

The v= alves on my shiny new '72 Midget were set to 0.006 in.  One of the many= things I found that explain why the previous owner couldn't get it to run r= ight.  :-)

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, a= t 4:49 PM, Michael MacLean <rr= engineer.mike@att.net> wrote:

=
How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms?  Drove the Bugey= e around yesterday.  Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a r= ecent rebuild.  At leat 1000 miles since rebuild.  I'm afraid the r= ings never seated properly.  Not sure of the cylinder wall surface duri= ng the rebuild as I did not so that part of it.
Mike MacLean



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On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fi= sk via Spridgets <spridgets@a= utox.team.net> wrote:


The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you a= re assembling the engine.  If your engine is together and you just want= to set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 3= 1, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote= :

=
New 1= 275 engine.
Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D&nbs= p;0.029=20 in.
My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it sho= uld=20 be."
Bentley says:
Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in.= =20 cold
          =  =20                =20=     Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in.
        &n= bsp;            =           =20 timing        =3D 0.029 in.
Online sites agree on  =3D .012 in.=20 cold.
 
So what is the 0.029 in. for?
 
Michael Rowe

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= --Apple-Mail-0F0E3D4D-4654-436B-B474-77F529F6097C-- --===============5563014838884628516== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5563014838884628516==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 31 16:15:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704EE258598A for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:15:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CDA258573E for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:14:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-2f14ccc0.dyn.optonline.net [47.20.204.192]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0NX300F8CV4USXC0@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:14:39 -0400 To: Spridgets References: <7A7AC9FC-114F-4A8A-A5FD-E64E2B302659@chartermi.net> <1860081820.239106.1446324593779.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance From: Michael Rowe via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3515534343723275409== boundary="Boundary_(ID_h19vRKQ7kO2D1pFI8PW4nQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_h19vRKQ7kO2D1pFI8PW4nQ) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap in the 2008-9 crash. I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of parts. Where higher ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can then be assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, you obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0.010-in x 1.5 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in for race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance cams generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard ratio rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers are used simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works out as 0.016-in divided by 1.25 = 0.0128, then x 1.5 = 0.0192" - or 0.019" at the valve. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael MacLean To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe Cc: Spridgets Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterday. Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At leat 1000 miles since rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. Not sure of the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of it. Mike MacLean On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembling the engine. If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. Sent from my keyboard On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: New 1275 engine. Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only = 0.029 in. My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." Bentley says: Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) = 0.012 in. cold Running (competition work) = 0.015 in. timing = 0.029 in. Online sites agree on = .012 in. cold. So what is the 0.029 in. for? Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike@att.net --Boundary_(ID_h19vRKQ7kO2D1pFI8PW4nQ) Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
I used Minisport roller rockers bought = cheap in the=20 2008-9 crash.  I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5=20 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box = of=20 parts.
 
Where higher=20 ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can = then be=20 assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, = you=20 obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So = 0.010-in x 1.5=20 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in = for=20 race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance = cams=20 generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard = ratio=20 rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers = are used=20 simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works = out as=20 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" - or 0.019" = at the=20 valve.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael=20 MacLean
And then switch 'em.
Ron


From: Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Michael Rowe <mdrowe@= optonline.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Backward= s Battery

Michael,
Voltage requires two term= inals.  What are you using to measure this phenomenon, and where are y= ou connecting each test lead?
Hal

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Michael = Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:=


Forget all the test I mentioned.
How can a battery run backwards, with neg= ative=20 voltage at the ground terminal and no voltage at the positive=20 terminal?
 
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Thanks all for their responses. It would appear that these sets and their "universal" flares have worked for almost everyone. So, the problem is something in my particular application: a bad flare, a bad fitting, or a new brake cylinder that doesn't want to cooperate. Just have to figure it out.
 
By the way, it's Moss that refers to the flares as "universal". MOPOD, I think they call it. See the Moss website.
 
Ed Woods
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I thought the traditional list response was 'it'll make a good boat= =20 anchor'.
 
In a message dated 27/10/2015 19:12:43 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:
I have=20 the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape.  I think it= 's=20 stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc.  Does this engine hav= e any=20 value to anyone
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I would keep the engine serial number plate though.
 
In a message dated 27/10/2015 22:51:41 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:
Okay,=20 thanks for the input.  I thought that might be the case.  I'll= =20 figure out something.  I just hate to scrap them if someone could= get=20 some good out of them.  I'll put a call out to the local club (prob= ably=20 should have done that first)  If I don't get any takers, they may= be=20 scrapyard bound.
John
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8=20 "Madelyn"
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Do I have to admit what I found wrong?  =
 
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Loose nut on the steering wheel?    :-)

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Do I have to admit what I found wrong? 
 
Michael Rowe
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No need to embarrase yourself further, Mike.=C2=A0 Already= chuckling here and I don't even know what you found... =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ne= vermind - we all do it.

Cheers!
Jim

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at= 3:25 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>= wrote:
Loo= se nut on the steering wheel? =C2=A0 =C2=A0:-)

Sent from my keyboard=

On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Michael Rowe v= ia Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Do I have to admit what I found wrong?=C2=A0
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Not so long as you can fabricate a plausible tale to substit= ute for the truth.

On Oct 29, 2015 3:05 PM, "Michael Rowe via = Spridgets" <spridgets@a= utox.team.net> wrote:
Do I have to admit what I found wrong?=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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David is correct.=C2=A0 Just remember, around here "F= irst Liar" doesn't stand a chance!!


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Not so long as= you can fabricate a plausible tale to substitute for the truth.

On Oct 29, 2015 3:05 PM, "Michael Rowe via = Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Do I have to admit what I found wrong?=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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--Boundary_(ID_h19vRKQ7kO2D1pFI8PW4nQ)-- --===============3515534343723275409== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3515534343723275409==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 31 17:15:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DBB258510D for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:15:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3E12585054 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:14:19 -0600 (MDT) t=1446333311; bh=rYUCYGq+f6PUJmCDc8O+v00yIZav3ON6rBceksyL3H4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=2l4qIrUvdqGviKoCuk9OX/pACgnOREU0bWdxNTMhGfiqKdNCkVMp12e+AASH4pwN4Jmvu4TF7Hc1OZ6a+UKGthBls4WZ8zZ45hspQoA/+038DJ/M7cd1EG1knJzOdbW2mAzqkQ9VRyynV0JoQ4oPM9fHjWtgS0Lw5dVKtwqzbKA= Received: from [98.137.12.60] by nm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2015 23:15:11 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.238] by tm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2015 23:15:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2015 23:15:11 -0000 v3f9F0XvDKwGvimc3N_GjEcxoEwbpit3HHfgZsLT87ieLHM1NazhEqcO4db1rpIh1Jw0LXUKMfyC gPzLsrhk2FldEUkZUolLEBeO.VnNNS5NvDUAXkkGIEbGOPidCWmRSr_3quo1fvybtI7_ZX89Ud_M Y.21OR.thkYVkv.8lhIFsLDrWMPz7OGzCCR8.oIZsOQbZ3CjY4L7lm4fzK.21T6HhDzgWWLIfw1m rdCUDlG9QuLHzp5pThHb6qeXcrFqp39.YA13VYiK_K1FrXeBXAVSHKeAy2gwLijBlUo4lsy4KXTG sIDM9YiIND4PVAaauRMIUwvKNlnsaMaMJW5RrjWgJSh5QVlUwjEoAM8vWFiYnftXF_SaiIJcomqD nliuTQrQk68Q83E_sXB3We1BSLXmZ6EXb9c1f4bTu8sxsgjQFgTpXX7RCiHJs51Qkp9ZfxMhQzxC A9w4tUNFnetL_3LJP4Lc0Vm94u6ZcclbKX7LgMtN9m64d2XAP3vQCxRGmyl4wKgY. Received: by 216.39.60.159; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 23:15:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 23:15:09 +0000 (UTC) To: Michael Rowe , Spridgets References: <780FEDF366454FDCA816F4F43B8BAD76@Home> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4293221836644657664== boundary="----=_Part_277960_132215619.1446333309782" ------=_Part_277960_132215619.1446333309782 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a similar cam to the Kent 266. I guess a larger gap would be better = than too tight in any case, but I'll see wher they are at right now and the= n try .015 for a start.=C2=A0=20 =20 On Saturday, October 31, 2015 3:15 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: =20 =20 I=C2=A0used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap in the 2008-9 crash.=C2= =A0 I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5 (red),=C2=A0and I also= =C2=A0used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of parts.=C2=A0Where=C2=A0= higher ratio rockers=C2=A0are to be used, the required valve clearance can = then be assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 roc= kers, you obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So = 0.010-in x 1.5 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 giv= es 0.018-in for race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled pe= rformance cams generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with = standard ratio rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher rat= io rockers are used simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher rat= io. This works out as 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0= .0192" - or 0.019" at the valve. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael MacLean To: Rick Fisk ; Micha= el Rowe Cc: Spridgets Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:49 PM Subject: R= e: [Spridgets] rocker clearance=20 How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms?=C2=A0 Drove the Bugeye around ye= sterday.=C2=A0 Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a recent reb= uild.=C2=A0 At leat 1000 miles since rebuild.=C2=A0 I'm afraid the rings ne= ver seated properly.=C2=A0 Not sure of the cylinder wall surface during the= rebuild as I did not so that part of it. Mike MacLean =20 =20 On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: =20 The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembl= ing the engine. =C2=A0If your engine is together and you just want to set t= he valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. Sent from my keyboard =20 On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: =20 =20 New 1275 engine. Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D=C2=A0= 0.029 in. My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." Bentle= y says: Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in. cold =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Runni= ng (competition work) =3D 0.015 in. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ti= ming=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0.029 in. Online sites=C2=A0a= gree on=C2=A0 =3D .012 in. cold. =C2=A0 So what is the 0.029 in. for? =C2= =A0 Michael Rowe=20 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eer.mike@att.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eer.mike@att.net =20 ------=_Part_277960_132215619.1446333309782 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a similar cam to th= e Kent 266. I guess a larger gap would be better than too tight in any case= , but I'll see wher they are at right now and then try .015 for a start.&nb= sp;



On Saturd= ay, October 31, 2015 3:15 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@auto= x.team.net> wrote:


I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap= in the=20 2008-9 crash.  I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5=20 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of= =20 parts.
 
Where higher=20 ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can the= n be=20 assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, yo= u=20 obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0.010-in x= 1.5=20 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in for= =20 race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance cams= =20 generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard ratio= =20 rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers are = used=20 simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works out a= s=20 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" - or 0.019" at = the=20 valve.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4= :49=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker=20 clearance

How about when = you have 1.5 rocker=20 arms?  Drove the Bugeye around yesterday.  Runs great, still bl= ue=20 smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild.  At leat 1000 miles since= =20 rebuild.  I'm afraid the rings never seated properly.  Not sure= of=20 the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of= =20 it.
Mik= e MacLean



On Saturday, October 31,= 2015 1:26 PM,=20 Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:


The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are=20 assembling the engine.  If your engine is together and you just wa= nt to=20 set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via S= pridgets=20 <spri= dgets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

New 1275 engine.
Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only=20 =3D 0.029 in.
My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what i= t should=20 be."
Bentley says:
Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.01= 2 in.=20 cold
       =20               &n= bsp;=20         Running (competition work) =3D 0.= 015=20 in.
       &nb= sp;            =            =20 timing        =3D 0.029 in.
Online sites agree on  =3D .012 in.= =20 cold.
 
So what is the 0.029 in. for?
 
Michael Rowe



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------=_Part_277960_132215619.1446333309782-- --===============4293221836644657664== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4293221836644657664==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 31 17:16:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95922585184 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:16:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mtaout005-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net (mtaout005-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net [68.114.190.30]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31184258518D for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:15:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from impout005 ([68.114.189.20]) by mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.020.01 201-2473-160) with ESMTP id <20151031231604.LJYE13189.mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout005>; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:16:04 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.106] ([71.10.17.119]) by impout005 with charter.net id bzG41r0032a8AQ701zG4Fl; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:16:04 -0500 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:117 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=NdpssIHrLSNTZB7QhhwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=DNeNDcIUAAAA:8 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=2ua1qSDP0v2rhizVlEEA:9 a=75jxgu2u_GweGBhG:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 19:16:07 -0400 References: <7A7AC9FC-114F-4A8A-A5FD-E64E2B302659@chartermi.net> <1860081820.239106.1446324593779.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <780FEDF366454FDCA816F4F43B8BAD76@Home> To: Michael Rowe Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============9081874646526439352== boundary=Apple-Mail-CE3A9DC3-5AD6-44A1-8479-A6BB9ADCE47E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-CE3A9DC3-5AD6-44A1-8479-A6BB9ADCE47E charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why does increasing the rocker ratio cause a need for more clearance? Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap in the 2008-9 crash. I no lo= nger remember, but they probably are 1.5 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elg= in cam that came in a box of parts. > =20 > Where higher ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance ca= n then be assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 ro= ckers, you obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0= .010-in x 1.5 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives= 0.018-in for race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled perfo= rmance cams generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with stan= dard ratio rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio ro= ckers are used simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. Th= is works out as 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" -= or 0.019" at the valve. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael MacLean > To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe > Cc: Spridgets > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance >=20 > How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterda= y. Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At le= at 1000 miles since rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. N= ot sure of the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that= part of it. > Mike MacLean >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: >=20 >=20 > The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembling= the engine. If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve c= learance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. >=20 > Sent from my keyboard >=20 >> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >=20 > New 1275 engine. > Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D 0.029 in. > My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." > Bentley says: > Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in. cold > Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in. > timing =3D 0.029 in. > Online sites agree on =3D .012 in. cold. > =20 > So what is the 0.029 in. for? > =20 > Michael Rowe >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refis= k@chartermi.net >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengi= neer.mike@att.net >=20 >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk= @chartermi.net --Apple-Mail-CE3A9DC3-5AD6-44A1-8479-A6BB9ADCE47E charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Why does increasing the rocker ratio c= ause a need for more clearance?

Sent from my keyboard

O= n Oct 31, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap i= n the=20 2008-9 crash.  I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5=20 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of=20= parts.
 
Where higher=20 ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can then= be=20 assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, you= =20 obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0.010-in x 1= .5=20 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in for=20= race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance cams=20= generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard ratio=20= rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers are u= sed=20 simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works out as= =20 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" - or 0.019" at t= he=20 valve.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:= 49=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker=20 clearance

How about when you have 1.5 r= ocker=20 arms?  Drove the Bugeye around yesterday.  Runs great, still blu= e=20 smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild.  At leat 1000 miles since=20= rebuild.  I'm afraid the rings never seated properly.  Not sure o= f=20 the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of=20= it.
Mike MacLean
<= /div>



On Saturday, October 31, 2= 015 1:26 PM,=20 Rick Fisk via Spridgets <sp= ridgets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:


The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are=20 assembling the engine.  If your engine is together and you just wan= t to=20 set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Sp= ridgets=20 <spridg= ets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

New 1275 engine.
Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only=20 =3D 0.029 in.
My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it= should=20 be."
Bentley says:
Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012= in.=20 cold
       =20               &nb= sp;=20         Running (competition work) =3D 0.0= 15=20 in.
       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;          =20 timing        =3D 0.029 in.
Online sites agree on  =3D .012 in.=20= cold.
 
So what is the 0.029 in. for?
 
Michael Rowe

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= --Apple-Mail-CE3A9DC3-5AD6-44A1-8479-A6BB9ADCE47E-- --===============9081874646526439352== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============9081874646526439352==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 31 18:00:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35211258649D for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336AD2586483 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:00:00 -0600 (MDT) t=1446336052; bh=R4jT0JmQ4J6B8uIVrM5o2VAUrN/5EZOS2mc5pRmvHfg=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=izBhuFV2oagvJAzJZ111LRI3W6m6uwIyt9I+lTUXr5aUIL3RafdA3mLPJ9aY6SpMz1N3nRNDutMS6I4bmCFTql2z7/goi3jk2cAcHqK/nBYDyFBj9lE2sqMxieMWRoX0sE4D9xN642EyIWKM1VETzVND6AKlaGsiqdv8uyPmAuFP3wKJoN7CrCdtTBwSAw2rIyIw9M1lVps3R7MTVx84zZf1UbRSVRLl/dc2fuHN2T2O+uAfqnBig9yRKMneYtKr5NJ1jfQd3xHE8UPoAIVU0vPKXzhJhNYarh5E933GLMbFkb41xlnqlqWlwSUoTzM+6vRnJRIZHL8vooYDB8WNpw== Received: from [98.138.100.117] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2015 00:00:52 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.41] by tm108.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2015 00:00:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2015 00:00:52 -0000 CVYEd8_BJ.7cDMJztDtvv.BfMiMpliGoNzblqAMegyBsa9NPuvjGelq2rHDl 0e51gQpF8cvWD.uENhm4bjfxAttXricMQwF1hhKVLs3mZyEcp0XlpWcQarTd jjze4AFdXuQeGGROX0nMAfqqPWfcyU2rjZIyR3qrGsrkTNVd4_d8Eydh4yRT g2Jw4R_Cafhe_5U0FRGpqYZiZqKM0Fo76QQ43S2iZrYxm_qXMOj8ddRSUYLi zNY.698jsdbuS1sFV4ymxDzpp_7MwOBzxplcWnZ_VTnEYaxh7wSGLWH9.uCe b8vrSTqI1DabZ2Lfl2RHS9961pCBGTIfttKlJKXThvrCbDAc0rRzAZm77__3 MaIFWe1Sz13JEEAV3xnqgf2XqIAtsJfjCSE.NPVDtscnIfBisj_wrvmrg5uJ UtPbcF7BPGaLfzshsLzRARAAILD7oVXaogVBe9IrgKYjq4zD1jKGr5429w_p Ey1oTtdfkglzSTiOUW8r8N3tAQ0FiiA-- Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 19:00:50 -0500 References: <7A7AC9FC-114F-4A8A-A5FD-E64E2B302659@chartermi.net> <1860081820.239106.1446324593779.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <780FEDF366454FDCA816F4F43B8BAD76@Home> <14317D16-7D87-462E-8C94-025161B08310@chartermi.net> To: Rick Fisk Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance From: Ron Soave via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2264874583860856659== boundary=Apple-Mail-A0CD16BE-DA4E-4E3B-BA70-2DA098257CEC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-A0CD16BE-DA4E-4E3B-BA70-2DA098257CEC charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It doesn't.=20 Ron Soave > On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > Why does increasing the rocker ratio cause a need for more clearance? >=20 > Sent from my keyboard >=20 >> On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >> I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap in the 2008-9 crash. I no l= onger remember, but they probably are 1.5 (red), and I also used a "warm" El= gin cam that came in a box of parts. >> =20 >> Where higher ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance c= an then be assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 r= ockers, you obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So= 0.010-in x 1.5 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 giv= es 0.018-in for race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled per= formance cams generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with st= andard ratio rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio r= ockers are used simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. T= his works out as 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192"= - or 0.019" at the valve. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Michael MacLean >> To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe >> Cc: Spridgets >> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance >>=20 >> How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterd= ay. Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At l= eat 1000 miles since rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. N= ot sure of the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that= part of it. >> Mike MacLean >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assemblin= g the engine. If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve= clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. >>=20 >> Sent from my keyboard >>=20 >>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: >>>=20 >>=20 >> New 1275 engine. >> Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D 0.029 in. >> My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." >> Bentley says: >> Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in. cold >> Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in. >> timing =3D 0.029 in. >> Online sites agree on =3D .012 in. cold. >> =20 >> So what is the 0.029 in. for? >> =20 >> Michael Rowe >>> ------------------------ >>>=20 >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>>=20 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refi= sk@chartermi.net >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rreng= ineer.mike@att.net >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refis= k@chartermi.net > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soaver= o@yahoo.com --Apple-Mail-A0CD16BE-DA4E-4E3B-BA70-2DA098257CEC charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It doesn't. 

Ron Soave

On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Why does increasing the rocker ra= tio cause a need for more clearance?

Sent from my keyboard
=
On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
<= br>
I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap i= n the=20 2008-9 crash.  I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5=20 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of=20= parts.
 
Where higher=20 ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can then= be=20 assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, you= =20 obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0.010-in x 1= .5=20 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in for=20= race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance cams=20= generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard ratio=20= rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers are u= sed=20 simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works out as= =20 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" - or 0.019" at t= he=20 valve.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:= 49=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker=20 clearance

How about when you have 1.5 r= ocker=20 arms?  Drove the Bugeye around yesterday.  Runs great, still blu= e=20 smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild.  At leat 1000 miles since=20= rebuild.  I'm afraid the rings never seated properly.  Not sure o= f=20 the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of=20= it.
Mike MacLean
<= /div>



On Saturday, October 31, 2= 015 1:26 PM,=20 Rick Fisk via Spridgets <sp= ridgets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:


The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are=20 assembling the engine.  If your engine is together and you just wan= t to=20 set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Sp= ridgets=20 <spridg= ets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

New 1275 engine.
Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only=20 =3D 0.029 in.
My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it= should=20 be."
Bentley says:
Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012= in.=20 cold
       =20               &nb= sp;=20         Running (competition work) =3D 0.0= 15=20 in.
       &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;          =20 timing        =3D 0.029 in.
Online sites agree on  =3D .012 in.=20= cold.
 
So what is the 0.029 in. for?
 
Michael Rowe

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